Now for Something Absurdly Funky: VULFPECK, “Hero Town” (Feat. Michael Bland)

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Single from the upcoming album Mr. Finish Line.
preorder → vuuulf.com

Jack Stratton — composer, mixer, piano
Theo Katzman — guitar
Woody Goss — farfisa & wah wah pedal
Joe Dart — fender bass
Michael Bland — drums
Joey Dosik — saxophone
Cory Wong — guitar
Kris Johnson — engineer
Devin Kerr — mastering
Jake Hartsfield — camera

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293 comments

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makeitstop  Nov 12, 2017 • 2:01:34pm

Bland really lays it down. He was the perfect drummer for Prince.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 12, 2017 • 2:02:11pm

That drum sound is killer.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 12, 2017 • 2:03:50pm

re: #1 makeitstop

Bland really lays it down. He was the perfect drummer for Prince.

He’s a beast.

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makeitstop  Nov 12, 2017 • 2:10:15pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

He’s a beast.

The greatest thing about the ‘Gett Off’ video is Michael Bland (twins notwithstanding). Seeing the entire drum kit shaking like an earthquake was hitting it.

But NPG was just such a stellar band.

Prince & The New Power Generation - Gett Off (Official Music Video)

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retired cynic  Nov 12, 2017 • 2:10:44pm

I see Mrs. Anymouse’s post on KOS led their email push today. Congrats!

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Kragar  Nov 12, 2017 • 2:12:59pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2017 • 2:13:11pm

re: #5 retired cynic

I see Mrs. Anymouse’s post on KOS led their email push today. Congrats!

Way cool. WTG, Mrs. AM!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2017 • 2:14:00pm

re: #6 Kragar

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The businesses we should be giving tax cuts to are small businesses not big ones that hoard.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 12, 2017 • 2:14:40pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 12, 2017 • 2:15:11pm

re: #6 Kragar

Well, they had to find the money for Directv somewhere…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 12, 2017 • 2:15:41pm

re: #9 FormerDirtDart

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She never looks natural in photos.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2017 • 2:16:17pm

re: #11 Eclectic Cyborg

She never looks natural in photos.

Because she’s fake.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 12, 2017 • 2:16:18pm

re: #8 HappyWarrior

The businesses we should be giving tax cuts to are small businesses not big ones that hoard.

Yes but small businesses can’t make fat donations to political campaigns.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2017 • 2:17:06pm

re: #13 Eclectic Cyborg

Yes but small businesses can’t make fat donations to political campaigns.

Yeah.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 12, 2017 • 2:17:08pm

re: #6 Kragar

And who gets the most corporate welfare from our Republican Congress?

■ AT&T ($38.1 billion)
■ Wells Fargo ($31.4 billion)
■ JPMorgan Chase ($22.2 billion)
■ Verizon ($21.1 billion)
■ IBM ($17.8 billion)
■ General Electric ($15.4 billion)
■ Exxon Mobil ($12.9 billion)
■ Boeing ($11.9 billion)
■ Procter & Gamble ($8.5 billion)
■ Twenty-First Century Fox ($7.6 billion)
■ Time Warner ($6.7 billion)
■ Goldman Sachs ($5.5 billion)

It’s time to end Socialism For The Rich!

nytimes.com

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makeitstop  Nov 12, 2017 • 2:20:09pm

re: #11 Eclectic Cyborg

She never looks natural in photos.

She’s had a lot of cosmetic work done.

Look at photos of her when she was young. She used to look like Eric with long hair.

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The Major  Nov 12, 2017 • 2:22:46pm

re: #6 Kragar

And you would not believe the horror I had to jump through to get a AT&T POTS line installed up here - I started the order 3 months ago and it fell through so many cracks within AT&T Wire-line Michigan it was getting to the point that I was all set to sic the Michigan Public Services Commission on their arses. Now, they say the truck will roll Wednesday.

We’ll see….

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 12, 2017 • 2:23:33pm

re: #7 HappyWarrior

Way cool. WTG, Mrs. AM!

My wife says thank you.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 12, 2017 • 2:26:28pm

Somebody fumblefingered, or they really hate funk.

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Kragar  Nov 12, 2017 • 2:28:46pm
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Nyet  Nov 12, 2017 • 2:30:37pm

A repeat:

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BigPapa  Nov 12, 2017 • 2:31:28pm

That drummer is tight.

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Targetpractice  Nov 12, 2017 • 2:31:32pm

re: #9 FormerDirtDart

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I’m old enough to remember the promises that the Trump kids would keep out of politics and run daddy’s empire while he was gone.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 12, 2017 • 2:31:49pm

I know my regional newspaper monitors Daily Kos, as I wrote an article there a few years ago about the death of our village clerk and the newspaper contacted me over it.

If my wife’s post was at the top of the Kos E-mail, we may hear from the paper again. I just asked again if this is the hill my wife wants to die on, she said “yup.”

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makeitstop  Nov 12, 2017 • 2:34:02pm

I’m not sure whether I’m buying this. On the one hand, this guy pulled down millions of dollars for his work with Trump and has been hailed as some kind of digital guru.

On the other hand, he was building Wordpress sites prior to signing on with Trump.

But I guess I’m gonna go with ‘ass-covering’ here. I trust no one on any layer of Trump orbit. On anything.

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BigPapa  Nov 12, 2017 • 2:34:06pm

re: #23 Targetpractice

I’m old enough to remember the promises that the Trump kids would keep out of politics and run daddy’s empire while he was gone.

I remember that too. That was a lifetime ago when the orcs were held at bay.

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jaunte  Nov 12, 2017 • 2:34:08pm

re: #9 FormerDirtDart

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Decatur Deb  Nov 12, 2017 • 2:36:16pm

re: #25 makeitstop

I’m not sure whether I’m buying this. On the one hand, this guy pulled down millions of dollars for his work with Trump and has been hailed as some kind of digital guru.

On the other hand, he was building Wordpress sites prior to signing on with Trump.

But I guess I’m gonna go with ‘ass-covering’ here. I trust no one on any layer of Trump orbit. On anything.

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Dude needs to be burned just for his Ivan the Terrible impersonation.

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nines09  Nov 12, 2017 • 2:36:35pm

Tom Petty knew gold when he found it.

Steve has it. Never lost it.

STEVE FERRONE & FRIENDS LIVE IN RIBEAUVILLE FRANCE

STEVE FERRONE & FRIENDS LIVE IN RIBEAUVILLE FRANCE

Back in the day with the Average White Band.

Average White Band - Pick up the pieces

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Kragar  Nov 12, 2017 • 2:37:13pm
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makeitstop  Nov 12, 2017 • 2:37:16pm

re: #22 BigPapa

That drummer is tight.

His drumming reminds me of Buddy Miles on Hendrix’ ‘Band of Gypsies’ record - nothing at all flashy, but laying down ridiculously funky grooves.

(I’ve been told that Hendrix hated Miles’ work on that album, but I don’t think most of that material would have worked had Jimi’s drumer of choice Mitch Mitchell played on it.)

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Charles Johnson  Nov 12, 2017 • 2:37:22pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 12, 2017 • 2:38:09pm

Alright, I’m going to do it. I’m going to try to finally come through with properly crispy home-cut French fries. We’ll see how this goes.

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jaunte  Nov 12, 2017 • 2:38:57pm

Started reading Winston Groom’s book 1942, The Year That Tried Men’s Souls
and this line really stuck out as a description of the current administration:

The Nazis were a disturbing grab bag of thugs, criminals, zealots, and dupes aided by not a few misguided aristocrats and otherwise intelligent people…”

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Nyet  Nov 12, 2017 • 2:39:34pm

re: #25 makeitstop

He looks like Rasputin’s less charismatic cousin.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 12, 2017 • 2:40:58pm

re: #35 Nyet

He looks like Rasputin’s less charismatic cousin.

The Mad Altar Boy.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2017 • 2:41:13pm

re: #35 Nyet

He looks like Rasputin’s less charismatic cousin.

Lenin and Rasp’s bastard heh. I saw him interviewed on Sixty Mins. Smug as you’d expect.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2017 • 2:42:03pm

re: #32 Charles Johnson

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Of course they are. They want us to ignore the bigotry behind these movements.

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jaunte  Nov 12, 2017 • 2:42:27pm
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The Major  Nov 12, 2017 • 2:43:00pm

re: #25 makeitstop

With a beard like that - doubtful…..

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makeitstop  Nov 12, 2017 • 2:45:09pm

re: #29 nines09

Tom Petty knew gold when he found it.

Steve has it. Never lost it.

STEVE FERRONE & FRIENDS LIVE IN RIBEAUVILLE FRANCE

Ferrone was such a good fit for that band, as much as I loved Stan Lynch.

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ObserverArt  Nov 12, 2017 • 2:47:50pm

re: #24 Anymouse 🌹

I know my regional newspaper monitors Daily Kos, as I wrote an article there a few years ago about the death of our village clerk and the newspaper contacted me over it.

If my wife’s post was at the top of the Kos E-mail, we may hear from the paper again. I just asked again if this is the hill my wife wants to die on, she said “yup.”

‘Mouse…do you have a link, I haven’t been following much this weekend and I probably missed the original mention of the Kos entry?

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Nyet  Nov 12, 2017 • 2:49:22pm
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Jay C  Nov 12, 2017 • 2:50:30pm

re: #42 ObserverArt

Here’s a link.

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ObserverArt  Nov 12, 2017 • 2:53:28pm

re: #44 Jay C

Here’s a link.

Thanks!

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 12, 2017 • 2:57:43pm
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FormerDirtDart  Nov 12, 2017 • 2:59:14pm
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makeitstop  Nov 12, 2017 • 3:00:50pm

Watching that clip, I’m imagining Trump saying ‘Tell me about the rabbits, George.’

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 12, 2017 • 3:02:23pm

re: #42 ObserverArt

‘Mouse…do you have a link, I haven’t been following much this weekend and I probably missed the original mention of the Kos entry?

My wife’s entry on the Veterans Day issue at Daily Kos.
dailykos.com

My entry on the fellow on Memorial Day 2016 (written then)
dailykos.com

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 12, 2017 • 3:04:16pm

re: #46 FormerDirtDart

Too bad that doesn’t have atheists. (Considering as polling shows we have the lowest crime rates, teen pregnancy rates, &c, it would have been interesting to see where we fit in acceptance of immoral behaviour.)

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Targetpractice  Nov 12, 2017 • 3:04:20pm

re: #46 FormerDirtDart

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That’s because evangelicals are aware they’re losing the culture war and are prepared to accept whatever allies they can find. Meanwhile the GOP is so desperate to gain and retain power that they’re willing to play to the worst impulses of their base to make up the difference. So you find evangelicals stuck supporting sleezeballs and sleezeballs stuck talking about how they’re gonna drag America back to the cultural Stone Age.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 12, 2017 • 3:06:00pm

re: #48 makeitstop

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 12, 2017 • 3:13:48pm

re: #48 makeitstop

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Watching that clip, I’m imagining Trump saying ‘Tell me about the rabbits, George.’

I’m just amazed by his tiny little feet.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 12, 2017 • 3:14:15pm

re: #52 Eclectic Cyborg

“I will hug you and squeeze you and take care of you… .”

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 12, 2017 • 3:18:01pm
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FormerDirtDart  Nov 12, 2017 • 3:19:09pm
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Decatur Deb  Nov 12, 2017 • 3:20:24pm

re: #55 FormerDirtDart

That reluctance undermines one of the RW major memes—that the women were out looking for fame and a payday. Morons.

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Targetpractice  Nov 12, 2017 • 3:21:47pm

re: #57 Decatur Deb

That reluctance undermines one of the RW major memes—that the women were out looking for fame and a payday. Morons.

“Why didn’t they come forward before now?!” has shifted to “They were forced to give these interviews!” without any hint of a clutch being used.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Nov 12, 2017 • 3:22:17pm

re: #49 Anymouse 🌹

My wife’s entry on the Veterans Day issue at Daily Kos.
dailykos.com

My entry on the fellow on Memorial Day 2016 (written then)
dailykos.com

Same links?

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Decatur Deb  Nov 12, 2017 • 3:23:22pm

re: #58 Targetpractice

“Why didn’t they come forward before now?!” has shifted to “They were forced to give these interviews!” without any hint of a clutch being used.

Turbo-HydroKakamatic.

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Ace Rothstein  Nov 12, 2017 • 3:24:38pm

re: #11 Eclectic Cyborg

She never looks natural in photos.

Because there’s nothing natural about her. It’s all plastic surgery.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2017 • 3:25:43pm

re: #46 FormerDirtDart

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That wouldn’t have anything to do with the rise of Trump now woukd it?//

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Targetpractice  Nov 12, 2017 • 3:28:22pm

What the Breitbart crowd seem to be doing now is trying to address the reality that they are revealing themselves as a pack of power-hungry fuckers by trying to change the narrative to “These poor women were forced to tell lies by the librul media!” Acknowledge they’re victims, but insist that their stories are actually being twisted or even rewritten by the press to make Moore look like a sexual predator when really he was just a lonely guy looking for a companion. That it wasn’t unusual back then for an older man to “date” younger women, and we can’t judge past behavior by today’s morals. And that the media should have respected these women by keeping their secrets rather than using them to attack Moore.

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retired cynic  Nov 12, 2017 • 3:33:00pm

re: #53 The Vicious Babushka

I’m just amazed by his tiny little feet.

No wonder he wobbles when he walks. It would look better if he buttoned his jacket, so it didn’t swoosh from side to side as he waddles. I can say this, as I am overweight, and wobble and waddle.

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nines09  Nov 12, 2017 • 3:33:46pm

re: #41 makeitstop

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Ace Rothstein  Nov 12, 2017 • 3:34:45pm
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BigPapa  Nov 12, 2017 • 3:36:42pm

The right only has to destroy a truth not manufacture a narrative. A couple of different angles can be thrown up at the same time and they can see what sticks. Flinging propganda poo, so to speak.

This is the problem with Twitter, which gives nitrous to Twain’s old adage ‘a lie is round the world before the truth puts it’s pants on’ with today’s technology.

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Belafon  Nov 12, 2017 • 3:37:06pm

re: #55 FormerDirtDart

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 12, 2017 • 3:37:38pm

re: #59 bill d. (b.d.)

Same links?

Yes. The link for my wife is her diary that she put up about Veterans Day that went out in the Kos mail alert to their readers. The link to my diary there was from last year when this dingbat did the scaremongering thing over transgender people in bathrooms and liberals are coming for your guns on Memorial Day.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 12, 2017 • 3:38:53pm

So it begins…

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Ace Rothstein  Nov 12, 2017 • 3:42:32pm

re: #70 Dr. Matt

So it begins…

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How is he a thing anyway? I’ve never understood it.

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Jay C  Nov 12, 2017 • 3:43:19pm

re: #68 Belafon

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I’m just wondering if Breitbart has EVER “sp[oken] to sources with direct knowledge of something before writing a story about it

AFAICT, their journalistic model has always been “publish whatever shit they want to and back it up later - maybe - if they feel like it.”

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 12, 2017 • 3:43:48pm

Joseph Mifsud (left), Papadopoulos’ “London professor”

“… Johnson denied meeting Mifsud, a Maltese academic named in FBI documents. Singh said he did not remember if Mifsud and Johnson spoke at the event, according to The Observer. …”

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2017 • 3:44:11pm

re: #70 Dr. Matt

So it begins…

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Coming from an abuser himself.

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jaunte  Nov 12, 2017 • 3:44:56pm

I wouldn’t want to see either of these guys in proximity to a teenager.

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jaunte  Nov 12, 2017 • 3:45:52pm

Are these the private eyes Trump sent to Hawaii?

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BigPapa  Nov 12, 2017 • 3:47:11pm

re: #76 jaunte

Are these the private eyes Trump sent to Hawaii?

Daryl Hall & John Oates - Private Eyes

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Dr. Matt  Nov 12, 2017 • 3:47:19pm

re: #71 Ace Rothstein

How is he a thing anyway? I’ve never understood it.

He’s “mean” to Democrats. That is the ONLY requirement to be a deplorable superstar.

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BigPapa  Nov 12, 2017 • 3:51:29pm
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jaunte  Nov 12, 2017 • 3:54:35pm

The ACLU has identified 24 states, including Texas, where cell-site simulators are used by law enforcement.

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makeitstop  Nov 12, 2017 • 3:55:34pm

re: #68 Belafon

Wait. So does Breitbart *not* speak to sources with direct knowledge of something before writing a story about it???

No need to talk to anybody if you’re just making shit up.

(OT: I’m so happy that Prince videos are back up on Youtube. I have no idea why they suddenly appeared again, but I’m glad they did.)

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BeachDem  Nov 12, 2017 • 3:55:51pm

re: #75 jaunte

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I wouldn’t want to see either of these guys in proximity to a teenager.

I wouldn’t want to see either of these guys anywhere in my proximity—and I’m an old lady!

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Dr. Matt  Nov 12, 2017 • 3:56:19pm
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makeitstop  Nov 12, 2017 • 3:59:06pm

re: #77 BigPapa

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Hall & Oates made some really dopey videos back in the day.

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Targetpractice  Nov 12, 2017 • 4:00:03pm

I don’t consider it a coincidence that Bannon seems to be focusing his efforts on Leigh Corfman, as her being under the age of consent of the day makes their efforts to defend Moore so difficult. “Discredit” her and the rest can be played off as they’ve been trying, i.e. saying Moore was just into “younger women” at the time and it wasn’t strange for men in Alabama at the time to pursue “women” much younger than them.

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ObserverArt  Nov 12, 2017 • 4:01:10pm

re: #71 Ace Rothstein

How is he a thing anyway? I’ve never understood it.

He is a thing alright. We just can’t figure out what kind of thing he is. Not sure if he is even human, some kind of a monster cooked up in a meth lab or something.

What I do not understand is how does he have any power? Seems to me the GOP has allowed him to run roughshod over their party and they are too weak to do anything about it. They give him the power.

Mitch and Paulie are toothless lightweights in this monster’s shadow.

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makeitstop  Nov 12, 2017 • 4:03:24pm

Robbed from Facebook:

In response to the boycott, coffee maker @Keurig is coming out with a new flavor: Grounds for Impeachment.

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makeitstop  Nov 12, 2017 • 4:07:35pm

re: #86 ObserverArt

He is a thing alright. We just can’t figure out what kind of thing he is. Not sure if he is even human, some kind of a monster cooked up in a meth lab or something.

What I do not understand is how does he have any power? Seems to me the GOP has allowed him to run roughshod over their party and they are too weak to do anything about it. They give him the power.

Mitch and Paulie are toothless lightweights in this monster’s shadow.

Rebekah Mercer is the engine that makes Breitbart go. We could have included her evil old man in the equation until he bailed a couple of weeks back.

(OT again: This. Prince. Clip. Is. Fucking. Everything.)

Detroit

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 12, 2017 • 4:08:47pm
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Decatur Deb  Nov 12, 2017 • 4:11:02pm

re: #89 FormerDirtDart

Breitbrats aren’t very good at what they do. Better send for Boris and Natasha.

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JordanRules  Nov 12, 2017 • 4:13:30pm

re: #88 makeitstop

Her evil old man owes 7 billion in taxes and is still very much in the equation. His beliefs have always and still do align with Bannon. His BS statement highlighting Milo and his family empire ownership tweaking hardly undoes that.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 12, 2017 • 4:16:00pm

re: #71 Ace Rothstein

How is he a thing anyway? I’ve never understood it.

He is nothing. It’s Mercer cash that makes him what he is.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 12, 2017 • 4:18:08pm

Ownership

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makeitstop  Nov 12, 2017 • 4:19:25pm

re: #91 JordanRules

Her evil old man owes 7 billion in taxes and is still very much in the equation. His beliefs have always and still do align with Bannon. His BS statement highlighting Milo and his family empire ownership tweaking hardly undoes that.

All true. But how ‘bout that Prince clip? :)

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JordanRules  Nov 12, 2017 • 4:21:43pm

re: #94 makeitstop

Absolutely amazing and deserves a Mercer-less reply!

I wonder how the videos got back on YT?

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makeitstop  Nov 12, 2017 • 4:25:23pm

re: #95 JordanRules

Absolutely amazing and deserves a Mercer-less reply!

I wonder how the videos got back on YT?

I have no idea, but I’m sure not going to complain.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 12, 2017 • 4:29:41pm

re: #9 FormerDirtDart

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she’s wearing an Uncle Fester outfit…

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Nov 12, 2017 • 4:33:17pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 12, 2017 • 4:36:13pm

re: #59 bill d. (b.d.)

Same links?

Yes.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 12, 2017 • 4:38:33pm

re: #80 jaunte

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The ACLU has identified 24 states, including Texas, where cell-site simulators are used by law enforcement.

Good thing we don’t have cell service. There is something positive about landline service at least.

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A Mom Anon  Nov 12, 2017 • 4:43:00pm

re: #25 makeitstop

There was an interview with this guy on 60 Minutes a little while back. It was angering and terrifying . I don’t buy his claims of knowing nothing. I hope he gets a closer look by authorities.

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Ace Rothstein  Nov 12, 2017 • 4:46:27pm
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Kragar  Nov 12, 2017 • 4:47:17pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 12, 2017 • 4:47:35pm

My wife’s first foray onto the Daily Kos recommended list is about to pass the all-time highest recommended diary I wrote there if the recommends continue.

I guess she pushed some buttons with that one.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 12, 2017 • 4:48:40pm

re: #103 Kragar

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If you sell to a black man, it kind of defeats the purpose….//////

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 12, 2017 • 4:49:21pm

re: #105 Barefoot Grin

If you sell to a black man, it kind of defeats the purpose….//////

The way gun laws are written, you can pretty much refuse a sale for any reason.

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ObserverArt  Nov 12, 2017 • 4:52:36pm

re: #106 Anymouse 🌹

The way gun laws are written, you can pretty much refuse a sale for any reason.

Seems the reverse is also true.

The way gun laws are written, you can pretty much sell to anyone any amount.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 12, 2017 • 4:55:06pm

re: #106 Anymouse 🌹

The way gun laws are written, you can pretty much refuse a sale for any reason.

Yeah, I was thinking about how Reagan suddenly got serious about gun issues when the Black Panthers started to arm themselves.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 12, 2017 • 4:57:58pm

So — any news on the Spencer Ackerman story that was mentioned downstairs?

re: #234 FormerDirtDart

Hell, it’s not even 1:30, and I’m already tempted to start drinking

Spencer Ackerman ✔@attackerman
Perhaps the most disturbing story I have ever reported in ~15 years of covering national security is coming your way this evening.
12:11 PM - Nov 12, 2017
1,494 1,494 Replies 5,142 5,142 Retweets 10,763 10,763 likes

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rhuarc  Nov 12, 2017 • 4:59:18pm

re: #109 Hecuba’s daughter

So — any news on the Spencer Ackerman story that was mentioned downstairs?

Nothing on his Twitter yet.

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Jay C  Nov 12, 2017 • 5:00:21pm

re: #109 Hecuba’s daughter

So — any news on the Spencer Ackerman story that was mentioned downstairs?

I was just thinking that: it’s 8:00p ET (20:00 for the rest of the world) and no “disturbing” news. Yet.
A good thing?

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The Major  Nov 12, 2017 • 5:05:50pm

Gaah….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 12, 2017 • 5:07:18pm

re: #47 FormerDirtDart

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MrBWS confirms that the numbers in the article are correct.
And it’s what I’ve been saying for weeks.

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makeitstop  Nov 12, 2017 • 5:09:48pm

re: #110 rhuarc

Nothing on his Twitter yet.

I’ve been hawking his TL all day. Gotta be something crazy.

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Belafon  Nov 12, 2017 • 5:10:39pm

re: #112 The Major

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Dave In Austin  Nov 12, 2017 • 5:10:58pm

Someone somewhere mentioned King Crimson. I had an immediate reaction.

Remember, this requires high volume and the possible need for dance space.

King Crimson: Elephant Talk (live on Fridays)

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The Major  Nov 12, 2017 • 5:11:35pm

re: #115 Belafon

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 12, 2017 • 5:13:43pm

HERE IT IS

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Dave In Austin  Nov 12, 2017 • 5:19:03pm
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The Major  Nov 12, 2017 • 5:19:33pm

Something that makes you go: “Hmmmmmmmm”……

The Russians identified by Papadopoulos, he told the FBI, were tricksters. One, a professor, was “just a guy talk[ing] up connections or something”. According to Papadopoulos, he believed the individual was “BS’ing to be completely honest with you.”. The FBI investigation, and Mueller’s conclusion, are that these statements are criminal lies.
Official Russian interest by Chaika and the security services is now focusing on the three Russian individuals whom Papadopoulos identified, but whose names are being kept secret by the US government. The first was a Russian professor “based in London…[who] claimed to have substantial connections with Russian government officials”. US reporters investigating this individual have pinpointed him as a Maltese, with a job at a university in Scotland, and a record of one visit to Russia and one to the Russian Embassy in London. To an American ear, the professor’s Maltese accent may sound Russian.
The second was “a certain female Russian national” whom Papadopoulos told his Trump campaign supervisors was “Putin’s niece”. The third, according to the court papers, was “an individual in Moscow (the ‘Russian MFA Connection’) who told defendant PAPADOPOULOS he had connections to the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs (‘MF A’). The MFA is the executive entity in Russia responsible for Russian foreign relations. Over the next several weeks, defendant PAPADOPOULOS and the Russian MFA Connection had multiple conversations over Skype and email about setting ‘the groundwork’ for a ‘potential’ meeting between the Campaign and Russian government officials.”
In fact, according to the newly released US evidence, Papadopoulos was lying to the Trump campaign about the connections, influence, and significance of the three Russian contacts. It turns out, according to the FBI, that noone was related to Putin; the Russian contacts were unable to arrange an official invitation for either Papadopoulos or Trump to visit Russia, or even the Russian Embassy in London.
Papadopoulos has pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI when he failed to reveal that he had lied to a senior member of the Trump campaign organization in an email of April 26, 2016, in which he claimed: “The Russian government has an open invitation by Putin for Mr. Trump to meet him when he is ready… The advantage of being in London is that these governments tend to speak a bit more openly in ‘neutral’ cities.”
Papadopoulos has also pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI by concealing that he had been told by his contact on April 26 that the professor had returned from a trip to Moscow where ” he had met with high level Russian government officials.” Papadopoulos didn’t ask for the names, and didn’t report checking them before telling Trump headquarters. That’s because Papadopoulos wanted to be believed by Trump more than he cared if the professor was telling him the truth.
According to the FBI, “the Professor told defendant PAPADOPOULOS that on that trip he (the Professor) learned that the Russians had obtained ‘dirt’ on then-candidate Clinton. The Professor told defendant PAPADOPOULOS, as defendant PAPADOPOULOS later described to the FBI, that ‘they [the Russians] have dirt on her’; ‘the Russians had emails of [Hillary] Clinton’; ‘they have thousands of emails.’”
It didn’t occur to Papapopoulos, the Trump campaign chiefs, the FBI, Prosecutor Mueller or the Justice Department to check whether the “dirt on Clinton”, the “emails of Clinton”, and the “thousands of emails”, were openly accessible after their publication commenced by Wikileaks on March 16, 2016; that was five weeks before the “Professor” went to Moscow to discover what had already appeared in London and Washington on the internet. Read the Wikileaks archive, starting here. The Wikileaks publications included some 30,000 emails and more than 50,000 document pages covering the period from June 2010 to August 2014.

But Wikileaks wasn’t the first to disclose the dirt and the Clinton emails. The US Department of State had begun the disclosure in May of 2015, when a media-led Freedom of Information Act request led to the opening of Clinton’s Secretary of State files, and when newspapers across the country began publishing them. Read more of the dirt Russian officials announced they had on Clinton from years earlier by clicking here.
Russian sources close to Chaika say they cannot prosecute the “Professor” for revealing what the State Department and Wikileaks had already started to publish. Nor, the sources add, is it a crime under Russian law for a Russian living in London to speak to an American.
For admitting he concealed this from his superiors in the Trump organization, and then from the FBI, Papadopoulos is now facing at least six months in jail. Russian sources say that what is now a jailing offence in the US cannot be a crime in Russia if the evidence substantiates that lies were passed about lies. According to Mueller’s prosecution of Papadopoulos, “in truth and in fact, however, defendant PAPADOPOULOS understood the Professor to have substantial connections to high-level Russian government officials and that the Professor spoke with some of those officials in Moscow before telling defendant PAPADOPOULOS about the ‘dirt.’ “. Russian sources say there is no evidence the “Professor” has the connections he claimed. They add the US court papers prove this by revealing that none of the meetings Papadopoulos requested of his Russian contacts materialized.
Russian sources say the release of the US prosecutor’s indictment of Paul Manafort and Richard Gates III is of next to no interest to Russian prosecutors. This, they say, is because there is no evidence and no charge that any Russian person, source of Russian money, Russian publication or Russian government entity was involved in the activities for which Manafort and Gates have been indicted.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 12, 2017 • 5:20:00pm

re: #46 FormerDirtDart

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Only if those politicians are Republicans.

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jaunte  Nov 12, 2017 • 5:22:08pm
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makeitstop  Nov 12, 2017 • 5:26:44pm

re: #118 The Vicious Babushka

HERE IT IS

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Shiplord - looks like the victim in this story is from your 40.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 12, 2017 • 5:27:39pm
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The Major  Nov 12, 2017 • 5:28:05pm

re: #122 jaunte

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Dave In Austin  Nov 12, 2017 • 5:28:45pm

Someone may have stepped in something smelly

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Belafon  Nov 12, 2017 • 5:30:47pm

re: #126 Dave In Austin

When your position is as logically inconsistent as Joe’s is, it can be easy to catch them in a logical flaw, like Rick did.

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stpaulbear  Nov 12, 2017 • 5:31:02pm

re: #122 jaunte

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jaunte  Nov 12, 2017 • 5:33:10pm

re: #128 stpaulbear

Realtor .com has also stopped advertising on Hannity’s show. Maybe conservatives will agree not to buy houses in protest.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2017 • 5:33:27pm

re: #126 Dave In Austin

Someone may have stepped in something smelly

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Rick’s mistake there is talking to Wilson as if Walsh isn’t a world class jerk.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 12, 2017 • 5:34:03pm

re: #122 jaunte

Wow, joined Twitter October 2016 … that seems suspicious.

On the other hand, if wingnuts want to destroy their coffeemakers, I suppose that’s up to them. I seriously doubt that would “trigger” anything in a liberal other than laughter.

Wingnut One: Starbucks coffee cups aren’t Christmas-y enough!
Wingnut Two: I know! We can boycott Starbucks Coffee by making them write “Trump” on it. That’ll show those liberal snowflakes!

(Starbucks whistles all the way to bank. Liberals triggered into gales of laughter.)

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Belafon  Nov 12, 2017 • 5:34:23pm

re: #129 jaunte

Realtor .com has also stopped advertising on Hannity’s show. Maybe conservatives will agree not to buy houses in protest.

Maybe they’ll move out, abandoning their houses.

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scottslemmons  Nov 12, 2017 • 5:34:24pm

re: #129 jaunte

Realtor .com has also stopped advertising on Hannity’s show. Maybe conservatives will agree not to buy houses in protest.

They could burn their houses down. That’d show us!

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Unshaken Defiance  Nov 12, 2017 • 5:34:26pm

re: #126 Dave In Austin

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jaunte  Nov 12, 2017 • 5:35:10pm
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scottslemmons  Nov 12, 2017 • 5:35:14pm

re: #134 Unshaken Defiance

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Pff. Moore’s admitted it.

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Targetpractice  Nov 12, 2017 • 5:35:19pm

re: #119 Dave In Austin

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A picture that screams “Hi, I’ll be starring in your nightmares for weeks to come!”

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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 12, 2017 • 5:35:26pm

re: #128 stpaulbear

The joke is, we’ve already passed the parody versions people are coming up with, because there’s an entire industry of “give me money because I trigger liberals.”

The shark has jumped the shark at this point. Up is down; gluten holds atomic nuclei together; I Can’t Believe It’s Not Butter is butter.

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Belafon  Nov 12, 2017 • 5:35:27pm

re: #131 Anymouse 🌹

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 12, 2017 • 5:35:34pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2017 • 5:36:04pm

re: #131 Anymouse 🌹

Wow, joined Twitter October 2016 … that seems suspicious.

On the other hand, if wingnuts want to destroy their coffeemakers, I suppose that’s up to them. I seriously doubt that would “trigger” anything in a liberal other than laughter.

Wingnut One: Starbucks coffee cups aren’t Christmas-y enough!
Wingnut Two: I know! We can boycott Starbucks Coffee by making them write “Trump” on it. That’ll show those liberal snowflakes!

(Starbucks whistles all the way to bank. Liberals triggered into gales of laughter.)

I find it funny as hell. Even more funny they think it “triggers” us.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 12, 2017 • 5:36:56pm
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Targetpractice  Nov 12, 2017 • 5:38:18pm

The only thing about the smashing that pisses me off is I’ve been wanting a Keurig for awhile but have avoided doing so because I’m always a little tight on funds. So assholes like this having money to burn for publicity stunts does sort of anger me.

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The Major  Nov 12, 2017 • 5:39:36pm

re: #143 Targetpractice

Here’s a word of advice: If you decide to spend the money for a Keurig, avoid the cheapest models - they fail spectacularly…

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Bubblehead II  Nov 12, 2017 • 5:39:41pm

re: #118 The Vicious Babushka

HERE IT IS

After reading the story, I don’t see the reason for the big hype job. Is it news worthy? Yes. Did he need to hype it as an earth shattering news event? Please.

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Targetpractice  Nov 12, 2017 • 5:39:53pm

“The accused have the presumption of innocence and we shouldn’t be tearing them down!”

“And their accusers?”

“DESERVE TO BE DRAGGED THROUGH THE MUD AND BURNED IN EFFIGY FOR DARING TO IMPUGN A REPUBLICAN!!!!!”

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Targetpractice  Nov 12, 2017 • 5:40:50pm

re: #144 The Major

Here’s a word of advice: If you decide to spend the money for a Keurig, avoid the cheapest models - they fail spectacularly…

Yeah, I’m thinking I might put it on my Christmas list this year. By which I mean lay out some heavy hints to my friends and family that I’d appreciate finding one under the tree next month.

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Jay C  Nov 12, 2017 • 5:41:03pm

re: #141 HappyWarrior

I find it funny as hell. Even more funny they think it “triggers” us.

Oh Colin Rugg’s crap “triggered” me, all right. First, triggering headshaking/facepalming, then snorts of derision, finally it triggered LOL.
Jerk.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2017 • 5:41:08pm

Thing is if Moore were a Democrat, every last Republican would be demanding every last Democrat distance themselves and more.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 12, 2017 • 5:41:20pm

re: #143 Targetpractice

The only thing about the smashing that pisses me off is I’ve been wanting a Keurig for awhile but have avoided doing so because I’m always a little tight on funds. So assholes like this having money to burn for publicity stunts does sort of anger me.

I have a Yama vacuum pot (glass, stovetop) and a Sunbeam electric vacuum pot (from 1943). The filters in both are cloth, so no waste other than used coffee grounds.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 12, 2017 • 5:41:51pm

re: #146 Targetpractice

The ur-rule is that the rules aren’t applied equally.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 12, 2017 • 5:41:53pm

re: #139 Belafon

Love Rowling!! Never watched or read any of her Harry Potter stuff but have read her Galbraith detective novels. She’s great at pushing back hard on trolls.

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Targetpractice  Nov 12, 2017 • 5:42:11pm

re: #149 HappyWarrior

Thing is if Moore were a Democrat, every last Republican would be demanding every last Democrat distance themselves and more.

Shit, if it were Doug Jones being presently accused, there’d be a clock on Fox News right now counting every minute that goes by without Hillary calling for his tarring and feathering.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 12, 2017 • 5:42:38pm

I posted about this a while back but I didn’t follow up, so maybe some of the sportsball-oriented lizards will know… Did the proposed wingnut walkout happen today?

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Stanley Sea  Nov 12, 2017 • 5:42:54pm

Hi !!!!! Oooohhhh this vacation. Got back to Orlando tonight, 9 hr drive from Myrtle beach with stops. Event planned tomorrow night, supposed to go home Tuesday at the crack of dawn. Decided to try to buy off my kitty sitter till Sunday. Will work from moms, but I need more time!!!!

Seeing Beach Dem definitely a high light, too short but very sweet. Everything is so jam packed, I need a Vacay from this vacay.

Hope I haven’t missed too much.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 12, 2017 • 5:43:09pm

re: #147 Targetpractice

Yeah, I’m thinking I might put it on my Christmas list this year. By which I mean lay out some heavy hints to my friends and family that I’d appreciate finding one under the tree next month.

My great-grandmother did that a few years ago about a jewellery box she liked. Three different members of my family all bought her the identical box.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 12, 2017 • 5:43:14pm

re: #149 HappyWarrior

Thing is if Moore were a Democrat, every last Republican would be demanding every last Democrat distance themselves and more.

Like they harassed Secretary Clinton about her ties to Weinstein.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2017 • 5:44:25pm

re: #157 Patricia Kayden

Like they harassed Secretary Clinton about her ties to Weinstein.

Exactly

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Targetpractice  Nov 12, 2017 • 5:45:12pm

re: #156 Anymouse 🌹

My great-grandmother did that a few years ago about a jewellery box she liked. Three different members of my family all bought her the identical box.

Heh, I asked my sister last month if there was anything she might like for her birthday. First thing she said: A new iPad mini. The grimace I made led to a text message a couple hours later saying she’d be happy with a music box instead. Found one that still cost a pretty penny, but it was worth it. Figure I’ll look at the iPad for Christmas instead.

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Bubblehead II  Nov 12, 2017 • 5:45:42pm

re: #143 Targetpractice

The only thing about the smashing that pisses me off is I’ve been wanting a Keurig for awhile but have avoided doing so because I’m always a little tight on funds. So assholes like this having money to burn for publicity stunts does sort of anger me.

Get a Mr. Coffee unit. They will handle any version of the K-Cup and are less expensive.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2017 • 5:45:45pm

And imagine if these were young men that were abused. Moore is yet another right wing hypocrite who deserves to lose and be a parish. Yet knowing the right, he’ll have a book deal and be at right wing circle jerks for years to come.

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Belafon  Nov 12, 2017 • 5:47:56pm

re: #152 Patricia Kayden

Love Rowling!! Never watched or read any of her Harry Potter stuff but havevread her Galbraith detective novels. She’s great at pushing back hard on trolls.

The Harry Potter books are really good. Not only do the stories and characters grow up, but the universe is very well thought out. And there are surprises: Something briefly mentioned in the first book will turn up again later. They turned my oldest onto reading, like so many others.

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Targetpractice  Nov 12, 2017 • 5:48:57pm

re: #160 Bubblehead II

Get a Mr. Coffee unit. They will handle any version of the K-Cup and are less expensive.

I should admit that I found an older model Tassimo at a yard sale last year and it’s worked pretty well for me. The only drawback is that the variety of T-cups in the States is smaller since Keurig cornered the market, so my choices are limited outside of what I can order online.

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ObserverArt  Nov 12, 2017 • 5:49:45pm

re: #120 The Major

Something that makes you go: “Hmmmmmmmm”……

Where was this published/reported? I’d like to know the source.

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The Major  Nov 12, 2017 • 5:50:18pm

re: #160 Bubblehead II

Get a Mr. Coffee unit. They will handle any version of the K-Cup and are less expensive.

I actually bought a Cuisinart Coffee-Plus Unit which I think my mother (whos the primary coffee drinker - I loathe coffee) successfully uses.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 12, 2017 • 5:50:57pm

re: #161 HappyWarrior

And imagine if these were young men that were abused. Moore is yet another right wing hypocrite who deserves to lose and be a parish. Yet knowing the right, he’ll have a book deal and be at right wing circle jerks for years to come.

We don’t have to imagine. Denny Hastert, The sheer number of “reparative therapists” who operated for years before getting caught out.

For all their homophobia, the Rule About Rules applies to predatory same-sex behavior just like everything else: powerful men get the benefit of the doubt *and* the forgiveness.

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The Major  Nov 12, 2017 • 5:51:28pm

re: #164 ObserverArt

John Helmer’s “Dancing With Bears”.

johnhelmer.net

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 12, 2017 • 5:51:29pm

re: #161 HappyWarrior

And imagine if these were young men that were abused. Moore is yet another right wing hypocrite who deserves to lose and be a parish. Yet knowing the right, he’ll have a book deal and be at right wing circle jerks for years to come.

A parish? I can’t imagine Roy Moore as a church district. /s

I’m good with him being a pariah though.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 12, 2017 • 5:54:29pm

The man has no self-awareness at all. There is a tweet for everything, even if it is only a day old.

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Bubblehead II  Nov 12, 2017 • 5:55:11pm

re: #163 Targetpractice

re: #165 The Major

To be honest, the only reason we have one is that the Mate uses it for her various ice teas. I’ll use for coffee when we run out of cold brew because I was to lazy to start a new batch before we ran out. She just smirks and does one of her custom instant mixes.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2017 • 5:55:36pm

re: #168 Anymouse 🌹

A parish? I can’t imagine Roy Moore as a church district. /s

I’m good with him being a pariah though.

PariAh. Thanks. You’d think I’d be more alert since we bought all the coffee makers with Soros money.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 12, 2017 • 5:55:57pm

re: #170 Bubblehead II

To be honest, the only reason we have one is that the Mate uses it for her various ice teas. I’ll use for coffee when we run out of cold brew because I was to lazy to start a new batch before we ran out. She just smirks and does one of her custom instant mixes.

Mrs. Fish uses ours mostly for hot water to make her coffee or tea because it’s faster than heating water on the stove. We haven’t bought a pack of K-cups in years.

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retired cynic  Nov 12, 2017 • 5:56:13pm

re: #140 Joe Bacon 🌹

I thought he was being sarcastic. ?

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retired cynic  Nov 12, 2017 • 5:59:24pm

re: #152 Patricia Kayden

Love Rowling!! Never watched or read any of her Harry Potter stuff but havevread her Galbraith detective novels. She’s great at pushing back hard on trolls.

I bet you would even enjoy her books. I started in my 60s because a friend named a horse after something in one of the books. She said she got them for her son, and he loved them so much she started reading them. I followed suit.

Her political viewpoint and intelligence are real pluses for me.

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The Major  Nov 12, 2017 • 5:59:43pm

re: #170 Bubblehead II

I actually have a separate ice tea maker - and it’s fabulous. Picked it up at Bed Bath and Beyond -and with Sam’s Club selling Lipton tea bags by the gallon, it was a no-brainer.

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Unshaken Defiance  Nov 12, 2017 • 6:00:19pm

re: #155 Stanley Sea

We missed you around here.

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Stanley Sea  Nov 12, 2017 • 6:00:40pm

Wait a minute. There’s a Keurig boycott? Lol, lazy americans are fucked.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 12, 2017 • 6:00:40pm

So from my earlier post: I was successful in frying home-cut French fries. They turned out amazing. I soaked them in water in the refrigerator for a couple of hours, drained and dried them, fried them for 5 minutes at 300 degrees F, 5 minutes more at 375 degrees F, and they came out crispy and golden. I tossed them with sea salt and they were every bit as good as fries out of a bag or from a restaurant. It’s a lot of prep work, but I’m so glad to finally be successful in making crispy, tasty home fries.

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fern01  Nov 12, 2017 • 6:01:31pm

re: #33 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Alright, I’m going to do it. I’m going to try to finally come through with properly crispy home-cut French fries. We’ll see how this goes.

So did this happen? Did you twice or thrice fry? My mother used to make the crispiest fries - in those long ago days before “fast food” - she twice fried them.

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fern01  Nov 12, 2017 • 6:02:32pm

re: #178 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

So from my earlier post: I was successful in frying home-cut French fries. They turned out amazing. I soaked them in water in the refrigerator for a couple of hours, drained and dried them, fried them for 5 minutes at 300 degrees F, 5 minutes more at 375 degrees F, and they came out crispy and golden. I tossed them with sea salt and they were every bit as good as fries out of a bag or from a restaurant. It’s a lot of prep work, but I’m so glad to finally be successful in making crispy, tasty home fries.

Cannot believe - I just asked the question - great minds :)

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 12, 2017 • 6:03:36pm

re: #172 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Mrs. Fish uses ours mostly for hot water to make her coffee or tea because it’s faster than heating water on the stove. We haven’t bought a pack of K-cups in years.

Coffeemaker here would probably hurt if you threw it out a window on someone’s head.

Sunbeam C-30A Vacuum Coffeemaker
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ObserverArt  Nov 12, 2017 • 6:04:13pm

re: #179 fern01

So did this happen? Did you twice or thrice fry? My mother used to make the crispiest fries - in those long ago days before “fast food” - she twice fried them.

I was going to ask this. I like to pull them out for a minute and let them drain, then back in and they brown up and get crispier that way.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 12, 2017 • 6:04:31pm

re: #180 fern01

Cannot believe - I just asked the question - great minds :)

What’s scary is that I was thinking the same thought after you posted your question. I was like, that is an eerie coincidence.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 12, 2017 • 6:05:22pm

re: #182 ObserverArt

I was going to ask this. I like to pull them out for a minute and let them drain, then back in and they brown up and get crispier that way.

After the first fry, mine wound up resting for about 10-15 minutes before I turned the temp up and getting the second fry. I’ve heard reports that this helps them get crispier, but as this is the first time trying with this method, I don’t know if it was that or if it was the soak/low fry/high fry combination.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 12, 2017 • 6:06:15pm

re: #183 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

What’s scary is that I was thinking the same thought after you posted your question. I was like, that is an eerie coincidence.

My wife frequently makes home-made fries (though not cut as thin as Julienne fries), but makes them in the air fryer. Plop cheese curds and gravy on them and we can imagine we’re in Canada eating poutine there.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Nov 12, 2017 • 6:06:19pm

I bet the rest of the FoxNews advertisers are thrilled that they will face intense backlash if they dare quit giving FoxNews money.

Give me some of that old time extortion!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 12, 2017 • 6:07:10pm

re: #185 Anymouse 🌹

My wife frequently makes home-made fries (though not cut as thin as Julienne fries), but makes them in the air fryer. Plop cheese curds and gravy on them and we can imagine we’re in Canada eating poutine there.

I’m putting an air fryer on my Christmas list. I want to try it. I love my oil fryer and I’m sure I’ll keep using it on those nights where I want to be an indulgent fatass, but the air fryer will be nice for a healthier alternative.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 12, 2017 • 6:08:15pm
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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Nov 12, 2017 • 6:08:30pm

With Trump in trouble I would expect GOP leaders like Alex Jones and David Barton to go to the next level: They will claim that Putin was actually born in California while his parents were running a Hollywood lib spy ring, and he is therefore eligible to run for President of the United States.
Putin-Moore 2020! GOP Dream team!

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Stanley Sea  Nov 12, 2017 • 6:09:13pm

RIP Liz Smith.

She deserves some epic obits.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 12, 2017 • 6:09:28pm

re: #116 Dave In Austin

Someone somewhere mentioned King Crimson. I had an immediate reaction.

Remember, this requires high volume and the possible need for dance space.

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I’ve told the story here before, but it’s all I’ve got so I’ll tell it again: I played volleyball with Adrian Belew a couple of times when he was living in Urbana, Il. He got a regular musician’s game going and I got the call a couple of times one summer.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 12, 2017 • 6:09:43pm

re: #187 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

We bought an air fryer a few months ago. Hubby uses it more than I do (at least once per week). Because of health issues, I can’t eat fried food anymore (for the most part) so it works out pretty well.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 12, 2017 • 6:11:05pm

re: #192 Patricia Kayden

We bought an air fryer a few months ago. Hubby uses it more than I do (at least once per week). Because of health issues, I can’t eat fried food anymore (for the most part) so it works out pretty well.

Funny thing is, I bought the oil fryer for Mrs. Fish, but I’m the one who does all the cooking with it. I guess, in that sense, it’s serving the purpose for which it was purchased… I use it to cook tasty snacks for her for date nights at home.

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fern01  Nov 12, 2017 • 6:13:09pm

re: #184 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

After the first fry, mine wound up resting for about 10-15 minutes before I turned the temp up and getting the second fry. I’ve heard reports that this helps them get crispier, but as this is the first time trying with this method, I don’t know if it was that or if it was the soak/low fry/high fry combination.

My suggestion would be 2 reasons
1. Drying the raw potatoes
2. the second fry (this is handy also if the fries are part of a meal - cook them early then do the second fry just before serving)

Not sure which is the most important. We never bothered with the soaking - I’ve not heard that option before. (Never too old to learn something new about home made fries)

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The Major  Nov 12, 2017 • 6:13:12pm

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2017 • 6:13:20pm

re: #189 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

With Trump in trouble I would expect GOP leaders like Alex Jones and David Barton to go to the next level: They will claim that Putin was actually born in California while his parents were running a Hollywood lib spy ring, and he is therefore eligible to run for President of the United States.
Putin-Moore 2020! GOP Dream team!

Heh wouldn’t happen.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 12, 2017 • 6:14:54pm

re: #194 fern01

My suggestion would be 2 reasons
1. Drying the raw potatoes
2. the second fry (this is handy also if the fries are part of a meal - cook them early then do the second fry just before serving)

Not sure which is the most important. We never bothered with the soaking - I’ve not heard that option before. (Never too old to learn something new about home made fries)

I’ve double-fried them before, but never gotten them truly crispy. The soaking is supposed to knock some of the starch off the exposed surface; most of the recipes I’ve read say to either rinse them or soak them, then pat them dry. It’ll be interesting to try this with sweet potato fries, where the word is that soaking is mandatory (and indeed, double-frying has not produced results for Mrs. Fish with her sweet potatoes thus far).

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Charles Johnson  Nov 12, 2017 • 6:15:16pm
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fern01  Nov 12, 2017 • 6:18:11pm

re: #198 Charles Johnson

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Given that it was the Germans invading Poland that was the step too far for the French and the English and they then declared war - I am aghast at what is happening there. How quickly some forget.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2017 • 6:19:00pm

re: #198 Charles Johnson

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Yeah the Poles are so smart sounding like the Nazis did about Jews. Oh and Trump and his friends are elites.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2017 • 6:19:28pm

re: #199 fern01

Given that it was the Germans invading Poland that was the step too far for the French and the English and they then declared war - I am aghast at what is happening there. How quickly some forget.

No one accused Wingnuttia of understanding history.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 12, 2017 • 6:19:39pm

re: #199 fern01

Given that it was the Germans invading Poland that was the step too far for the French and the English and they then declared war - I am aghast at what is happening there. How quickly some forget.

Quickly?! WWII was over 70 years ago!!!!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 12, 2017 • 6:20:01pm

re: #201 HappyWarrior

No one accused Wingnuttia of understanding history.

Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 12, 2017 • 6:21:26pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 12, 2017 • 6:21:35pm

I just couldn’t help it. The finger just slid over the retweet button!

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The Major  Nov 12, 2017 • 6:21:45pm

re: #203 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I think that was my line….

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 12, 2017 • 6:21:50pm

re: #203 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Exactly. Use the present to learn about the past so that you do not mistakes in the future.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 12, 2017 • 6:21:56pm

re: #200 HappyWarrior

Yeah the Poles are so smart sounding like the Nazis did about Jews. Oh and Trump and his friends are elites.

You’d think they, of all people, would be more sensitive to that sort of thing, since, yanno, the death camps were built in Poland.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2017 • 6:24:01pm

re: #208 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

You’d think they, of all people, would be more sensitive to that sort of thing, since, yanno, the death camps were built in Poland.

You’d think so.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 12, 2017 • 6:24:28pm

re: #209 HappyWarrior

You’d think so.

Of course, logic and reason are right out the window in this upside-down existence we call “reality”.

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stpaulbear  Nov 12, 2017 • 6:24:33pm

re: #192 Patricia Kayden

We bought an air fryer a few months ago. Hubby uses it more than I do (at least once per week). Because of health issues, I can’t eat fried food anymore (for the most part) so it works out pretty well.

Which brand fryer did you get? Anyone have a recommendation?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2017 • 6:26:03pm

re: #210 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Of course, logic and reason are right out the window in this upside-down existence we call “reality”.

Thing about Poland is Antisemitism was there long before the Nazis.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 12, 2017 • 6:26:05pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 12, 2017 • 6:26:23pm

re: #208 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

You’d think they, of all people, would be more sensitive to that sort of thing, since, yanno, the death camps were built in Poland.

Where did that come from? When my wife and I were in Poland in 2015 we didn’t see any of that.

I understand there was a large extremist rally … but is that rally really representative of the vast Polish populace?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 12, 2017 • 6:28:33pm

re: #214 Anymouse 🌹

Where did that come from? When my wife and I were in Poland in 2015 we didn’t see any of that.

I understand there was a large extremist rally … but is that rally really representative of the vast Polish populace?

I don’t know. Probably not, same as the extremist rallies here aren’t representative of the majority of Americans. Nevertheless, my point is that Poland has a unique perspective on the optics of racism and genocide. They were conquered by the Nazis and their territory used as a killing ground for millions.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2017 • 6:29:00pm

I’m not singling out Poland there btw. European anti Semitic sentiment was something the Nazis took advantage of.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 12, 2017 • 6:34:32pm

re: #216 HappyWarrior

I’m not singling out Poland there btw. European anti Semitic sentiment was something the Nazis took advantage of.

Bashing the Jewish faith has a long and ignominious tradition in Christianity whenever people or governments needed a scapegoat for their problems.

One of the great failings of Martin Luther was when he made his break with the Catholic Church, he could have also broken with the anti-Semitism. Instead he doubled down on that, and Germany was primed by it for someone like Hitler to take advantage of it.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 12, 2017 • 6:36:10pm

re: #217 Anymouse 🌹

Bashing the Jewish faith has a long and ignominious tradition in Christianity whenever people of governments needed a scapegoat for their problems.

One of the great failings of Martin Luther was when he made his break with the Catholic Church, he could have also broken with the anti-Semitism. Instead he doubled down on that, and Germany was primed by it for someone like Hitler to take advantage of it.

It’s so stupid to me. The Bible doesn’t declare any explicit anti-Semitism; in fact, usually the people who hate the Jews wind up getting smited by God or some other equally gruesome fate. If you’re going to blame someone and want to have a vaguely plausible reason for it, you should probably pick some group other than the one that literally wrote the book you espouse as the holy book of your religion.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 12, 2017 • 6:36:11pm

Aw, he can’t even get a job at Quizno’s…

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 12, 2017 • 6:43:39pm

re: #218 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

It’s so stupid to me. The Bible doesn’t declare any explicit anti-Semitism; in fact, usually the people who hate the Jews wind up getting smited by God or some other equally gruesome fate. If you’re going to blame someone and want to have a vaguely plausible reason for it, you should probably pick some group other than the one that literally wrote the book you espouse as the holy book of your religion.

The best I can tell it is the passages about Jesus being turned over to the Pharisees (the fundamentalists of their day) that causes that (along with a handy minority scapegoat).

During the Inquisition many Jewish people fled to the lands held by the Ottoman Empire, where that nation took them under protection.

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jaunte  Nov 12, 2017 • 6:44:02pm

Anyone who knew who Trump was could see Roy Moore coming.

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Jay C  Nov 12, 2017 • 6:44:27pm

re: #217 Anymouse 🌹

Bashing the Jewish faith has a long and ignominious tradition in Christianity whenever people or governments needed a scapegoat for their problems.

Especially in Poland. Not that I want start trafficking in cultural stereotypes, but blaming “The Jews” for any and all problems in the country is a long-time tradition in Poland. Along with being obsessively Catholic to the point of being priest-ridden. No surprise that the latest iteration of “nationalists” wallow in the same trough of bigotry. Only now with added Islamophobia to bring it up to date….

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William Lewis  Nov 12, 2017 • 6:45:01pm

re: #178 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

So from my earlier post: I was successful in frying home-cut French fries. They turned out amazing. I soaked them in water in the refrigerator for a couple of hours, drained and dried them, fried them for 5 minutes at 300 degrees F, 5 minutes more at 375 degrees F, and they came out crispy and golden. I tossed them with sea salt and they were every bit as good as fries out of a bag or from a restaurant. It’s a lot of prep work, but I’m so glad to finally be successful in making crispy, tasty home fries.

If you like McDonald’s fries, add a teaspoon of sugar to the water when soaking. POPS that golden color.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Nov 12, 2017 • 6:46:45pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 12, 2017 • 6:49:10pm
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Dave In Austin  Nov 12, 2017 • 6:51:59pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 12, 2017 • 6:54:54pm

re: #212 HappyWarrior

Thing about Poland is Antisemitism was there long before the Nazis.

And the Anti-Semitism continues long after there are no more Jews.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 12, 2017 • 6:55:43pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 12, 2017 • 6:59:47pm

re: #224 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

No tsunami alert for the earthquake.
ptwc.weather.gov

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Charles Johnson  Nov 12, 2017 • 6:59:58pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 12, 2017 • 7:01:31pm
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The Major  Nov 12, 2017 • 7:02:37pm
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Skip Intro  Nov 12, 2017 • 7:02:38pm

re: #230 Charles Johnson

The Philippine voters selected their monster just like we selected ours.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 12, 2017 • 7:05:23pm

So, if Roy Moore fails in his bid to move up to the Big League, does that mean he’ll go back to the minors?

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The Major  Nov 12, 2017 • 7:05:59pm

re: #234 Blind Frog Belly White

We can only hope.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 12, 2017 • 7:06:08pm
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Charles Johnson  Nov 12, 2017 • 7:06:42pm

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jaunte  Nov 12, 2017 • 7:07:28pm

re: #234 Blind Frog Belly White

So, if Roy Moore fails in his bid to move up to the Big League, does that mean he’ll go back to the minors?

His next logical move is to become a Constitutional Sheriff.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Nov 12, 2017 • 7:08:20pm

re: #235 The Major

We can only hope.

I think you missed the joke.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 12, 2017 • 7:09:17pm

JFC on a barbed wire tightrope on fire i just can’t even

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2017 • 7:10:17pm

re: #240 The Vicious Babushka

JFC on a barbed wire tightrope on fire i just can’t even

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No kidding.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 12, 2017 • 7:10:23pm

re: #240 The Vicious Babushka

JFC on a barbed wire tightrope on fire i just can’t even

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As far as I can remember, Roy Moore has long held the #1 position on every list ever compiled of “America’s Worst Judges”.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 12, 2017 • 7:10:38pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 12, 2017 • 7:11:03pm

re: #242 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I’m not joking about that, by the way. I believe, if I recall correctly, that’s actually where I knew the name before he ran for Senate.

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Skip Intro  Nov 12, 2017 • 7:11:09pm

re: #234 Blind Frog Belly White

So, if Roy Moore fails in his bid to move up to the Big League, does that mean he’ll go back to the minors?

Trump’s next Supreme Court pick would be my guess.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 12, 2017 • 7:13:05pm

re: #234 Blind Frog Belly White

Was it really THAT obscure?

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 12, 2017 • 7:13:23pm

re: #245 Skip Intro

Trump’s next Supreme Court pick would be my guess.

Judge Ducklips is angling for that.

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jaunte  Nov 12, 2017 • 7:14:14pm

re: #240 The Vicious Babushka

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2017 • 7:14:24pm

re: #247 The Vicious Babushka

Judge Ducklips is angling for that.

Christ. He’d make Bork look like Warren.

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makeitstop  Nov 12, 2017 • 7:14:26pm

re: #246 Blind Frog Belly White

Was it really THAT obscure?

Just high enough to go over a few heads. :)

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The Major  Nov 12, 2017 • 7:14:35pm

re: #239 I Would Prefer Not To

I probably did - I was too busy with my latest screed…

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2017 • 7:14:53pm

re: #248 jaunte

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Hacks R Us.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 12, 2017 • 7:16:01pm

The Filipino version of Trumpkins.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 12, 2017 • 7:16:46pm

re: #240 The Vicious Babushka

JFC on a barbed wire tightrope on fire i just can’t even

I can’t even either.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 12, 2017 • 7:18:44pm

I think Byron’s got an ordering problem with his cart and his horse.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 12, 2017 • 7:21:47pm
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FormerDirtDart  Nov 12, 2017 • 7:26:32pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 12, 2017 • 7:30:55pm

Well, reading the case file on the toddler assault case cited above, the teen who did it did not appeal the actual assault and went to jail for it. It would appear that Roy Moore’s dissent was that there was no evidence of vigorous resistance in the case (the second charge of forcible rape).

That would be a failing of the law (requiring to show evidence of force and vigorous resistance, pretty much the Biblical standard for rape).

I am not a lawyer, but my understanding from rape victim advocacy groups and other such organisations is that unless you can get in a disabling blow or run away, then resistance will only cause you to be beaten or worse. (In other words, the laws in such states where “forcible rape” exists goes against what is known about how rapes actually work.)

Moreover, how the hell is a four-year-old supposed to resist a teenager anyway?

I don’t know the particulars of Alabama law (for example, if the court could have struck that down as a violation of the Federal or state constitutions).

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Skip Intro  Nov 12, 2017 • 7:30:57pm

re: #247 The Vicious Babushka

Judge Ducklips is angling for that.

The only woman Trump would put there is his daughter except that he’s going to appoint her president when he decides to leave.

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ObserverArt  Nov 12, 2017 • 7:33:11pm

re: #257 FormerDirtDart

Vaughn Hillyard ✔@VaughnHillyard
NEW: Roy Moore said tonight in Huntsville at a closed-press gathering that the Washington Post published false allegations against him—“for which they will be sued.”
9:55 PM - Nov 12, 2017 * Huntsville, AL
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Roy Moore is not going to take this lying down. This is no minor matter!

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Charles Johnson  Nov 12, 2017 • 7:33:14pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2017 • 7:33:41pm

re: #257 FormerDirtDart

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I’d love to see him under oath.

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retired cynic  Nov 12, 2017 • 7:34:41pm

re: #261 Charles Johnson

gag

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JordanRules  Nov 12, 2017 • 7:35:12pm

re: #261 Charles Johnson

Good Lord! What is going on??
This whole trip is so embarrassing.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 12, 2017 • 7:35:53pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 12, 2017 • 7:38:47pm

re: #260 ObserverArt

Roy Moore is not going to take this lying down. This is no minor matter!

Is he actually that stupid, or is he just trying to spin up those who don’t know how the law actually works?

(I’m waiting for Mr. Moore’s wife to say, that’s enough, I’m out of here. Robert Bentley’s wife did the same, which kind of undermined his protests.)

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Skip Intro  Nov 12, 2017 • 7:39:10pm

re: #264 JordanRules

Good Lord! What is going on??
This whole trip is so embarrassing.

It could be worse. Duarte could have asked Trump to select someone to be executed in front of him. Maybe next time.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 12, 2017 • 7:39:18pm

re: #265 Charles Johnson

I’d give you an answer but I don’t like to go Russian to conclusions…

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Nov 12, 2017 • 7:39:28pm

I remember a popular bumper sticker from the 80s:

“Is it weird enough for you yet?”

Yes, it is entirely fucking weird enough for me now.

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jaunte  Nov 12, 2017 • 7:40:24pm

Foreign Devil Loves Cheap Showiness, Gold-Color Trinkets.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 12, 2017 • 7:40:47pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 12, 2017 • 7:42:35pm

Well, this trip has certainly shown the other leaders in the world how easy Trump is to play if they want something from him or us. Gag. Thanks, Republicans.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 12, 2017 • 7:46:06pm

re: #270 jaunte

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 12, 2017 • 7:50:58pm
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jaunte  Nov 12, 2017 • 7:52:33pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 12, 2017 • 7:52:52pm

Driftglass weighing in on the media again washing its hands of a Republican president’s failures, by divorcing the president and the party (see GW Bush the last time).

All Your Base Are Belong to Trump

Fellow Libtard snowflakes of a certain vintage may remember that, many years ago, as the Bush Regime collapsed and the sheer tonnage of the disasters it had left in its wake began to dawn on even the most belligerently apathetic citizens, most of the Beltway media suddenly fell into a giddy swoon over the sudden disappearance of millions of Republican voters (who had energetically cheered on those disasters) and the sudden and simultaneous appearance of millions of newly minted “independents”.

Of course, to the untutored Libtard eye, this was obviously nothing but an insultingly bare-faced hoax (from me, long ago) —

Most newly minted “independents” seem to be little more than Republicans who are fleeing the scene of their crime, but at the same time still desperately want believe in the inerrant wisdom of Rush Limbaugh. They are completely incapable of facing the horrifying reality that they have gotten every single major political opinion and decision of their adult lives completely wrong, so instead they double-down on their hatred of women and/or gays and/or brown people and/or Liberals, and blame them for the miserable fuckpit their leaders and their policies have made of their lives and futures.

Like German soldiers after the fall of Berlin, they have stopped running away from the catastrophe they created only long enough to burn their uniforms.

(more)

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 12, 2017 • 7:53:36pm

What a collection of baked goods Flynn chooses to follow

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Nov 12, 2017 • 7:53:40pm

re: #232 The Major

New LGF Page: On the disturbing Global Rise of Nationalism

I’m thinking about this essay at the Guardian in that same vein.

T. Greg Doucette’s 3rd rule of FSCK - “There are no new stories, just new faces and jurisdictions.”

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Skip Intro  Nov 12, 2017 • 7:54:09pm

re: #266 Anymouse 🌹

Is he actually that stupid, or is he just trying to spin up those who don’t know how the law actually works?

(I’m waiting for Mr. Moore’s wife to say, that’s enough, I’m out of here. Robert Bentley’s wife did the same, which kind of undermined his protests.)

Not a chance. She’s as big a crackpot as he is, bigger maybe.

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fern01  Nov 12, 2017 • 7:57:35pm

re: #275 Ace-o-aces

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And over 13,000 people agreed - shame no longer exists

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Belafon  Nov 12, 2017 • 7:59:59pm

re: #281 fern01

And over 13,000 people agreed - shame no longer exists

How many of those are bots, though?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 12, 2017 • 8:02:49pm

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 12, 2017 • 8:04:11pm

re: #282 Belafon

How many of those are bots, though?

Thing is, those “bots” are most likely actual people.

abcnews.go.com

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jaunte  Nov 12, 2017 • 8:05:16pm

As we know, golf course owners are the only true Great Americans.

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gocart mozart  Nov 12, 2017 • 8:06:38pm

re: #280 Skip Intro

It’s an empty threat, righteous indignation to get through election day when win or lose, you will never hear the word “lawsuit” again. See also: Trump, Donald.

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Skip Intro  Nov 12, 2017 • 8:10:55pm

re: #286 gocart mozart

Lawsuits take years and cost big money. Moore is counting on Bannon’s Stormtroopers showing up and silencing all the witnesses.

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 12, 2017 • 8:11:03pm
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jaunte  Nov 12, 2017 • 8:12:31pm

re: #288 Ace-o-aces

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Nov 12, 2017 • 8:30:49pm

re: #288 Ace-o-aces

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Nov 12, 2017 • 8:38:31pm

re: #288 Ace-o-aces

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BeachDem  Nov 12, 2017 • 8:47:47pm

re: #270 jaunte

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Foreign Devil Loves Cheap Showiness, Gold-Color Trinkets.

heh.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 12, 2017 • 9:00:59pm

re: #270 jaunte

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Foreign Devil Loves Cheap Showiness, Gold-Color Trinkets.

Asia has been in the civilization business for a long, long time. And in their extensive history, they’ve dealt with people like Trump before.

They understand how to play the game.

Off to work!


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