And Now, Something Beautiful: Becca Stevens, “Regina”

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Becca Stevens performs “Regina” for a World Cafe Session with host, Talia Schlanger. Recorded at XPN Studios in Philadelphia on 1/11/17.

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From her exceptional latest album, Regina.

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312 comments
1
The Major  Nov 12, 2017 • 8:13:58pm

Oh, now this is sweet: I’m getting served ads for the NRA featuring Wayne LaPierre’s mug…

(don’t worry, I’ll pay for ad-free access on payday….)

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Unshaken Defiance  Nov 12, 2017 • 8:15:43pm

Ukulele or Mandolin? Or?

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Belafon  Nov 12, 2017 • 8:17:54pm

re: #2 Unshaken Defiance

Ukulele or Mandolin? Or?

That’s what I was wondering.

Edit: I think it’s a ukulele. It’s not a Mandolin. The way she’s playing it is confusing me, but I haven’t seen a whole lot of ukulele players.

4
Dave In Austin  Nov 12, 2017 • 8:29:44pm

There’s that damn Nazi chicken again….

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makeitstop  Nov 12, 2017 • 8:32:11pm

It’s a uke. Mandolins have 4 ‘courses’ (pairs) of strings, 8 total.

Also - now I know where the ‘I am Regina’ line in the song ‘Bathtub’ with Jacob Collier comes from.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 12, 2017 • 8:38:30pm
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The Major  Nov 12, 2017 • 8:38:32pm

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BigPapa  Nov 12, 2017 • 8:41:37pm

Roy Moore Ice Cream Truck

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 12, 2017 • 8:49:08pm

When Roy loses he can always find redemption on the right wing Pulpit Pimping circuit.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 12, 2017 • 8:53:09pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 12, 2017 • 8:58:16pm

re: #4 Dave In Austin

There’s that damn Nazi chicken again….

Speaking of my Nazi chicken over there on the right, I’m going to sign out now so my wife and I can write that letter to the county newspaper and get it in before the publishing cutoff time tomorrow.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 12, 2017 • 8:59:16pm
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retired cynic  Nov 12, 2017 • 9:01:00pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

Dear God.

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retired cynic  Nov 12, 2017 • 9:03:48pm

Driftglass has a post quoting from a 13-year-old post called Little Red Fundy Hen, and boy did he ever call it a long time ago.

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scottslemmons  Nov 12, 2017 • 9:09:00pm

A WEE BABY.

Lucas the Spider

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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 12, 2017 • 9:15:10pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

Nobody actually vetted or is vetting who’s being killed in the Phillipines, but…sure, yeah…all of them were Bad Guys.

Old Soviet joke:

A bear is standing in a clearing in the woods, when suddenly a stampede of animals of all types passes through the empty space, all fleeing from the same direction.

The bear catches the attention of a rabbit and says, “Little rabbit, why are you all running away so fast?”

And the rabbit says, “Did you not hear? The KGB is arresting all the camels in the forest, then castrating them!”

The bear bemusedly says: “You are a rabbit, how is this about you….”

And the rabbit interjects—”…but when they arrest you and cut your balls off, how do you prove you’re not a camel?

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TedStriker  Nov 12, 2017 • 9:16:48pm

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 12, 2017 • 9:18:49pm

re: #17 TedStriker

Okay, that’s fucking genius.

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TedStriker  Nov 12, 2017 • 9:22:51pm

re: #18 Eclectic Cyborg

Okay, that’s fucking genius.

Inorite? I just forwarded them four or five scam emails that were sitting in my GMail spam folder.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Nov 12, 2017 • 9:36:22pm

Far be it from me to defend the infamous Dubya but this seemed a bit of a stretch: British chatterata Polly Toynbee actually blamed George W. Bush when she lost money in a Nigerian e-mail scam in 2003.
theguardian.com

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 12, 2017 • 9:36:32pm

re: #16 The Ghost of a Flea

Nobody actually vetted or is vetting who’s being killed in the Phillipines, but…sure, yeah…all of them were Bad Guys.

And there’s nothing like a summary trial and execution in the streets to uphold the rule of law.

My wife and I took her post at Daily Kos, added part of my post here, edited them for length, and generated a letter to the editor of the local newspaper. We also personalised the same letter for the school superintendent.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 12, 2017 • 9:40:26pm

re: #17 TedStriker

If you want to give Nigerian/419-type scammers the vapors (and waste a lot of their time), try this:

rescam.org

Scambating done with AI. I love it.

My wife does it through an organisation manually. (She was once the intended victim of an electronics reshipping scam, and she wound up married to me helping a Website owner track down Romance scammers - I guess my scam was successful /s)

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 12, 2017 • 9:49:57pm

re: #17 TedStriker

If you want to give Nigerian/419-type scammers the vapors (and waste a lot of their time), try this:

rescam.org

Why does that Website track the position of my cursor on the site? That’s kind of creepy.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 12, 2017 • 10:12:23pm

Going to try to have a relaxing Thanksgiving this year, so I’ve got my turkey game plan geling in my head. I’ve sous vide’d many a chicken in a similar fashion, so this should be easy.

A Better Way to Turkey

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 12, 2017 • 10:17:06pm

re: #24 GlutenFreeJesus

Going to try to have a relaxing Thanksgiving this year, so I’ve got my turkey game plan geling in my head. I’ve sous vide’d many a chicken in a similar fashion, so this should be easy.

It needs to be done:

Sarah Palin pardons a Thanksgiving turkey as others die around her

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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 12, 2017 • 10:42:07pm

Roy Moore’s alleged pursuit of a young girl is the symptom of a larger problem in evangelical circles

The Curious Defenses of Roy Moore Betray the Evangelical Culture of Child Sexual Abuse

I’ve been hoping this would get addressed. I’ve been reading materials by people who left various sections of the evangelical movement for a long time, and from my limited understanding I’ve felt that this Ray Moore thing has used a bunch of the language that cropped up in those books and blogs. I’m glad people with direct experience and broader knowledge are bringing this up.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 12, 2017 • 10:53:25pm

Well, for whatever its worth, my wife’s Veterans Day diary became the number one high impact post yesterday at the Great Orange Satan.

dailykos.com

Considering there were a hundred more recommends to that diary today, she may make the list two days in a row.

The letters to the paper and the superintendent are now complete.

I am trying to figure out how to cut all that outrage down to one hundred words to put it in the Omaha World-Herald “Public Pulse.”

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 12, 2017 • 11:20:17pm

Public Pulse letters have to be very short (not much longer than a tweet, though sometimes the Omaha World-Herald will let you run on a bit longer).

My submission just went in:

We attended the Veterans Appreciation Luncheon in Bridgeport, NE. The school did a fantastic job providing lunch and a patriotic program of music performed by the students.

The keynote speaker perverted the meaning of the freedoms afforded in the Constitution. He equated protest to sedition. He lied about the NFL player protests and claimed no one has a right to be outraged.

In outrage, we stood up and left the authoritarian speech. As a disabled veteran I could not sit there as he distorted the meaning of Constitutionally-protected rights in front of children and those who wore the uniform.

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Kragar  Nov 12, 2017 • 11:38:41pm
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freetoken  Nov 12, 2017 • 11:39:19pm

Your overnight flight music is some Mozart chamber music, from a recent performance in La Jolla:

Mozart’s Enchantment - La Jolla Music Society’s SummerFest 2017

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 12, 2017 • 11:46:04pm
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Single-handed sailor  Nov 12, 2017 • 11:55:45pm
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Targetpractice  Nov 13, 2017 • 12:20:02am

re: #31 Anymouse 🌹

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And when Moore loses, those same evangelicals will suddenly declare that any who supported him could not be “true” evangelicals and thus any who claim evangelicals supported Moore are liars.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 13, 2017 • 12:40:43am

re: #33 Targetpractice

And when Moore loses, those same evangelicals will suddenly declare that any who supported him could not be “true” evangelicals and thus any who claim evangelicals supported Moore are liars.

It’s almost as if they’re making it up as they go along.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 13, 2017 • 12:48:59am

I’m off to bed … gotta mail a letter in the morning to the school … will probably need a place to stay in a different state by the end of the week …

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 13, 2017 • 1:03:50am

re: #15 scottslemmons

No.

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Nov 13, 2017 • 1:44:55am

From the comments at wingnut hangouts online, my reading of their interpretation of this whole situation with Moore is that they view Democrats as an existential threat to America. They are grasping for anything to bolster their opinions that the women are lying and that Moore is a paragon of virtue. Some reason that “it was a different time” and that older men dating young girls was perfectly fine in some places around the nation. Others say that men like him had to look for young girls for marital prospects because the women their age are “damaged goods”. I could go on with “Others say…” all night when it comes to conservatives that support Moore and the excuses they are coming up with to keep him in the race and stop the Democrat from winning, but I don’t have the time to waste.

Instead, I’ll ask a few questions:

- For you conservative parents who support Moore and have (or had) young daughters; is it normal for a middle-aged man to be actively pursuing minor girls in hopes of developing some sort of relationship with one (or more)?

- Would you approve of your daughter(s) going with older men to their homes?

- Instead of accepting Moore’s denials as the honest truth because he’s such an honest and distinguished man, isn’t it possible that Roy Moore can not bring himself to admit that the youngest victim is telling the truth because then he would be admitting to a crime? After all, it’s a well known fact that criminals will lie to get away with their crime, right?

That’s the thing that gets me; they completely miss the fact that Ol’ Roy can’t admit to a crime, not after the career he has led. Oh Hell no! Not right now, not as he is reaching the end of the road of life and it would ruin his memory. Not when he is on the verge of winning a Senate seat, Hell no. Roy has every reason to lie his ass off and he knows that in the political climate that the Republican party and their paymasters/media have built, he stands a good chance of getting away with this.

Talking about that ‘political climate’ that the powerful conservatives have built; many on the right view now view the Democrats as threats to the American way of life. They have been convinced to despise and hate their fellow Americans who differ with them politically. They view them as the enemy, as people to be defeated and vanquished. The ‘political climate’ that powerful conservatives created and nurtured over the decades to milk for their own benefit has now turned on them. It has become angry over the lies and empty promises of inflicting pain and suffering on their enemies, thus allowing Trump to waltz in and wrest control for himself.

That’s why I think Moore will win; politics is an existential thing with conservatives. Paraphrasing Horowitz; in their opinion it’s better to have a pedo in office than a Democrat. Just remember this next time someone says that we need to listen to these people to win them over.

There is no winning them over, they are too far gone.

re: #34 Anymouse 🌹

It’s almost as if they’re making it up as they go along.

Nope, it’s a plot line that they follow every time.

Religiously.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 13, 2017 • 2:15:26am

re: #17 TedStriker

They need to develop a WordPress plugin. A few days ago, my Akismet anti-comment spam plugin updated, but didn’t activate automatically. I got so much comment spam that I couldn’t even get to the WP admin page. I had to enter my site’s control panel to lock out the most active IP addresses visiting the site (mostly Russian), and once I shut them out, I could enter WP admin and reactivate Akismet.

I hate spam.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 13, 2017 • 2:18:39am

re: #26 The Ghost of a Flea

Roy Moore’s alleged pursuit of a young girl is the symptom of a larger problem in evangelical circles

The Curious Defenses of Roy Moore Betray the Evangelical Culture of Child Sexual Abuse

I’ve been hoping this would get addressed. I’ve been reading materials by people who left various sections of the evangelical movement for a long time, and from my limited understanding I’ve felt that this Ray Moore thing has used a bunch of the language that cropped up in those books and blogs. I’m glad people with direct experience and broader knowledge are bringing this up.

Evangelical churches lean heavily toward authoritarianism and patriarchy. Plus, they seem biased toward interpreting everything through an Old Testament lens. While mainstream Evangelicals would prefer their women-folk be quiet and subservient, the ultra-conservative fringe groups require their women-folk to be so. The father/brother/husband/son/pastor is the absolute boss, and when he wants something, the girl/woman has to obey, because “it’s God’s will™!” So, it doesn’t surprise me that the Religious Right is not all that concerned about Moore molesting a 14-year-old.

Meanwhile, many of these same people accuse Muhammad (pbuh) of being a pedophile.

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Nov 13, 2017 • 2:38:07am

Something I saw earlier on another forum in a discussion on Hannity’s viewers boycotting the five companies that have withdrawn their advertising on his show:

OP: “Some advertisers are ditching Fox’s Sean Hannity over his coverage Of Roy Moore’s Alleged Pursuit of Teens…

Some Hannity fans are calling for a boycott of those products.”

1st response: “Perhaps they have a different bill of rights that states that the right to keep and molest children shall not be infringed.”

2nd response: “Ahhh yes the Second Grade Amendment.”

I just about choked laughing…

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 13, 2017 • 3:09:18am

Police: Naked People Rampage through Missouri Town Barking and Running Around (St. Louis Post-Dispatch)

Last weekend got downright bizarre in the eastern Missouri town of Sullivan, and police say they know why.

Four people went on a rampage, barking and yelling, breaking into buildings, even stripping off their clothes and showering in soda water, police say. They suspect the synthetic drug flakka is behind the behavior.

“We had multiple incidents this past weekend of people on some kind of substance acting out of their minds,” Sullivan Police Lt. Patrick Johnson told the Sullivan Independent News. “Barking like dogs, running up and down the street, or other farm animals, entering people’s homes, breaking into a business, yelling outside of local businesses.”

(more)

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Nov 13, 2017 • 3:27:14am

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Nov 13, 2017 • 4:15:39am

re: #43 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

I’ve been making my own commemorative Trump money; I’ve been writing “FUCK TRUMP” on the center of the back of just about every bill I get in my hands.

Just doing my part. :)

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dangerman  Nov 13, 2017 • 4:29:58am

re: #37 Odie Hugh Manatee

One observation:

Instead, I’ll ask a few questions:

-

For you conservative parents who support Moore and have (or had) young daughters; is it normal for a middle-aged man to be actively pursuing minor girls in hopes of developing some sort of relationship with one (or more..

He was not pursuing these women in the hopes of developing a relationship

This was not love, romance, dating, or courting

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dangerman  Nov 13, 2017 • 4:32:58am

re: #43 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Nov 13, 2017 • 4:46:19am

re: #45 dangerman

One observation:

Instead, I’ll ask a few questions:

-

He was not pursuing these women in the hopes of developing a relationship

This was not love, romance, dating, or courting

I’m sorry that I didn’t make it clear but I was ‘responding’ to statements I have read at places like Redstate. Some of the commenters there (and at other sites) look at the pursuit of young “women” by older men as a way for the perv, I mean older man to find a suitable wife. This aligns with their thinking that older women are “damaged goods”. You can damned well bet that I know that Roy Moore wasn’t looking for a wife, he was seeking sexual gratification that only a pervert craves.

If any creep like Roy had approached our daughter when she was a child, I would have beat the shit out of him, called the cops and told them that he fell on his face.

Repeatedly.

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dangerman  Nov 13, 2017 • 4:56:37am

re: #47 Odie Hugh Manatee

I’m sorry that I didn’t make it clear but I was ‘responding’ to statements I have read at places like Redstate. Some of the commenters there (and at other sites) look at the pursuit of young “women” by older men as a way for the perv, I mean older man to find a suitable wife. This aligns with their thinking that older women are “damaged goods”. You can damned well bet that I know that Roy Moore wasn’t looking for a wife, he was seeking sexual gratification that only a pervert craves.

If any creep like Roy had approached our daughter when she was a child, I would have beat the shit out of him, called the cops and told them that he fell on his face.

Repeatedly.

Gotcha. Excellent

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jeffreyw  Nov 13, 2017 • 5:37:51am

I hate it when he spits sunflower hulls on the floor.

Imgur


Good morning!

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Unshaken Defiance  Nov 13, 2017 • 5:40:58am

re: #43 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

This is a real thing (note discounted price):

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Golden Trump Presidential Coin

My furnace is hungry.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 13, 2017 • 5:44:47am

Why not believe that Roy Moore was, in fact, looking for a wife among these girls? He wanted someone pliable, not particularly educated, without an independent thought in her mind, who could be molded to cater to his every whim and not challenge him at any point. Did he ever date any women near his age?

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William Lewis  Nov 13, 2017 • 5:45:52am

re: #50 Unshaken Defiance

My furnace is hungry.

I wonder what base metal they’re using under that insanely thin plating?

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 13, 2017 • 5:54:55am

re: #17 TedStriker

I was talking with a student of mine today, and he was complaining about the various scam e-mails he gets on an almost daily basis.

I’ll have to let him know about Re:Scam. Sounds good.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 13, 2017 • 5:58:31am

re: #33 Targetpractice

And when Moore loses, those same evangelicals will suddenly declare that any who supported him could not be “true” evangelicals and thus any who claim evangelicals supported Moore are liars.

Don’t say “when”….say “if”. There’s still a 50/50 chance that Moore might pull off a victory. Yes, apparently a lot of people really are that fucking crazy in Alabama.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 13, 2017 • 5:59:37am

He really hates this crossed arms handshake thing. His suit jacket must be too tight across the shoulders.

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Lupin  Nov 13, 2017 • 6:03:57am

Russia is now f*cking with Spain/Catalonia:

guardian

When I think of all the billions of $$ we spent on conventional weapons and F*ckenberg came and delivered to them victory on a gold plate.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 13, 2017 • 6:05:18am

re: #26 The Ghost of a Flea

There should be Congressional hearings into this. Now of course, as long as the GOP is in charge, that’s not gonna happen.

And if it did happen, the screeching from the fundies would be audible all the way to Mars.

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Lupin  Nov 13, 2017 • 6:05:19am

Not forgetting the return of Putin’s bestie Silvio Berlusconi in Italy.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 13, 2017 • 6:08:15am

re: #55 The Vicious Babushka

He really hates this crossed arms handshake thing. His suit jacket must be too tight across the shoulders.

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Those people are not part of the Westchester Herrenvolk.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 13, 2017 • 6:09:31am

re: #52 William Lewis

I wonder what base metal they’re using under that insanely thin plating?

Tin, of course.

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Unshaken Defiance  Nov 13, 2017 • 6:09:45am

re: #41 Anymouse

Police: Naked People Rampage through Missouri Town Barking and Running Around (St. Louis Post-Dispatch)

(more)

Trump voters.

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Unshaken Defiance  Nov 13, 2017 • 6:11:20am

re: #52 William Lewis

I wonder what base metal they’re using under that insanely thin plating?

Stolen wire copper I’d guess.

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makeitstop  Nov 13, 2017 • 6:14:12am

re: #62 Unshaken Defiance

Stolen wire copper I’d guess.

Lead, for its known health-enhancng qualities.
///

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weave  Nov 13, 2017 • 6:14:27am

Redstate: Breitbart Confirms Key Detail Of WaPo Story On Roy Moore, Refutes Another

A shockingly honest look at a Breitbart story about Moore — except for the comments.

But regarding the comment and the claim about the phone in the room. Got me thinking, since I’m 58. Back in the 70s when I was a teenager I remember spending HOURS on the phone and I have memories of being on the phone in my own bedroom but I also remember sitting by the phone in my parent’s bedroom dialing a few digits for Vicki, my crush, wanting to ask her out to the 9th grade dance, and hanging up, over and over for hours. So why was I in their room and not my own? So maybe I didn’t have a phone in my room after all.

Point being, memories are a bit hazy that far back. I just remember spending a lot of time on the phone. That’s the key memory. The location really isn’t important, except for that one incident, because it was a princess phone and I kept staring at it as I dialed it and hung up before doing all 7 digits. That’s how I remembered where it was. That princess phone was definitely in my parent’s room only.

(Oh, I did finally dial all 7 digits after a few hours — and she said no. Ha!)

So yeah, you tend to remember something big in your life like being rejected by your crush. You don’t remember details like where you were when you were having casual conversations beyond that you had them….

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Decatur Deb  Nov 13, 2017 • 6:16:38am

re: #64 weave

Redstate: Breitbart Confirms Key Detail Of WaPo Story On Roy Moore, Refutes Another

A shockingly honest look at a Breitbart story about Moore — except for the comments.

But regarding the comment and the claim about the phone in the room. Got me thinking, since I’m 58. Back in the 70s when I was a teenager I remember spending HOURS on the phone and I have memories of being on the phone in my own bedroom but I also remember sitting by the phone in my parent’s bedroom dialing a few digits for Vicki, my crush, wanting to ask her out to the 9th grade dance, and hanging up, over and over for hours. So why was I in their room and not my own? So maybe I didn’t have a phone in my room after all.

Point being, memories are a bit hazy that far back. I just remember spending a lot of time on the phone. That’s the key memory. The location really isn’t important, except for that one incident, because it was a princess phone and I kept staring at it as I dialed it and hung up before doing all 7 digits. That’s how I remembered where it was. That princess phone was definitely in my parent’s room only.

(Oh, I did finally dial all 7 digits after a few hours — and she said no. Ha!)

So yeah, you tend to remember something big in your life like being rejected by your crush. You don’t remember details like where you were when you were having casual conversations beyond that you had them….

Bet the 14-yr old remembers that date better than the Assistant District Attorney.

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jaunte  Nov 13, 2017 • 6:18:32am
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lawhawk  Nov 13, 2017 • 6:19:54am

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area.

Roy Moore threatens to sue someone over being outed as an alleged pedophile and sex predator.

Turns out that a lot of people knew that Moore was fixated on high school girls - which means girls as young as 13/14 (the allegations are from a woman who was 14 at the time). No one seemed to actually question why Moore was going to these events and tracking down high school girls as an ADA in his early 30s.

Moore’s defenders continue sliming the accuser and media, which is precisely why women and girls aren’t and don’t come forward about abuse and sex attacks they endured years (or decades) earlier. Men in power want to remain in power, and they are able to rally lots of people to attack those who would cast them down.

Prosecutors face uphill battles when dealing with sex predators and child abuse. It’s not just Moore, but institutionally, we just don’t have a good way of dealing with systematic abuse.

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lawhawk  Nov 13, 2017 • 6:23:21am

Oh, and Trump cheers on and supports a mass killer/serial killer/psychopath in Philippine leader Duterte, who admits to killing a bunch of people personally, and whose actions have allowed for 100s to be killed in extrajudicial manner across his country in a “war on drugs”.

Trump cheers on a psychopath who thinks journalists are spies. Trump continues to attack the 1A and free speech and human rights everywhere he goes, and all of our rivals and enemies know how best to manipulate Trump in to doing what they want.

Butter him up. Give him his pomp and circumstance, and Trump doesn’t know what else to do.

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fern01  Nov 13, 2017 • 6:23:58am

re: #43 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

This is a real thing (note discounted price):

[Embedded content]

Golden Trump Presidential Coin

They couldn’t pay me enough to take one - ugly is as ugly does - this is ghastly

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 13, 2017 • 6:24:51am

re: #67 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area.

Roy Moore threatens to sue someone over being outed as an alleged pedophile and sex predator.

Turns out that a lot of people knew that Moore was fixated on high school girls - which means girls as young as 13/14 (the allegations are from a woman who was 14 at the time). No one seemed to actually question why Moore was going to these events and tracking down high school girls as an ADA in his early 30s.

Moore’s defenders continue sliming the accuser and media, which is precisely why women and girls aren’t and don’t come forward about abuse and sex attacks they endured years (or decades) earlier. Men in power want to remain in power, and they are able to rally lots of people to attack those who would cast them down.

Prosecutors face uphill battles when dealing with sex predators and child abuse. It’s not just Moore, but institutionally, we just don’t have a good way of dealing with systematic abuse.

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Wow……that church in the AP link is a creepy bunch. Less like a “fellowship” and a whole lot more like a totalitarian cult.

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weave  Nov 13, 2017 • 6:25:16am

re: #65 Decatur Deb

Bet the 14-yr old remembers that date better than the Assistant District Attorney.

That’s the most obvious point some people seem to miss. If you’re a serial abuser, that one incident was just one of many that you may not remember much about, but to the victim, they are stuck reliving it over and over again in their minds in great detail. :-(

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sagehen  Nov 13, 2017 • 6:25:50am

re: #64 weave

Redstate: Breitbart Confirms Key Detail Of WaPo Story On Roy Moore, Refutes Another

A shockingly honest look at a Breitbart story about Moore — except for the comments.

But regarding the comment and the claim about the phone in the room. Got me thinking, since I’m 58. Back in the 70s when I was a teenager I remember spending HOURS on the phone and I have memories of being on the phone in my own bedroom but I also remember sitting by the phone in my parent’s bedroom dialing a few digits for Vicki, my crush, wanting to ask her out to the 9th grade dance, and hanging up, over and over for hours. So why was I in their room and not my own? So maybe I didn’t have a phone in my room after all.

I remember that phones could have reasonably long cords; as a poor family, their house was probably small enough that you could be on the phone in a different room than where the phone supposedly was.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 13, 2017 • 6:27:28am

re: #68 lawhawk

Butter him up. Give him his pomp and circumstance, and Trump doesn’t know what else to do.

That’s why they all rolled out the red-carpet treatment for Trump. I said in a post downstairs that Asia has been in the civilization business for one hell of a long time and they’ve dealt with leaders who fancy themselves to be a “God-Emperor” before.

They know exactly how to play people like that.

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scottslemmons  Nov 13, 2017 • 6:28:53am

re: #36 Patricia Kayden

No.

Yes!

Twenty seconds of adorably baby spider? You can do it!

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makeitstop  Nov 13, 2017 • 6:33:01am

re: #72 sagehen

I remember that phones could have reasonably long cords; as a poor family, their house was probably small enough that you could be on the phone in a different room than where the phone supposedly was.

Yep.We had a wall phone in the kitchen, but the phone in the living room had about a 30-foot cord on it. I could pretty much walk from one end of our house to the other with it.

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lawhawk  Nov 13, 2017 • 6:33:56am

re: #70 Dr Lizardo

Indeed. The local prosecutors have been unable to crack that nut because the church does act like a cult and gets its members to lie and obstruct justice.

To me, the way through is to start charging everyone from the church leader on down with obstruction of justice and conspiracy (perhaps treat as RICO), and work backwards. It seems everyone there knows that the lies are occurring to cover up the abuse, so start from there. Once you get the church leaders out of the way, then you can actually move forward on the abuse claims.

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jaunte  Nov 13, 2017 • 6:35:47am

re: #64 weave

The Breitbarters are forgetting that the important part of the story is not what room the phone rang in, but that a 32 year old predator asked a 14 year old for the number.

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lawhawk  Nov 13, 2017 • 6:40:31am
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Eventual Carrion  Nov 13, 2017 • 6:45:32am

re: #65 Decatur Deb

Bet the 14-yr old remembers that date better than the Assistant District Attorney.

Yeah, his memory was seemingly one of many incidents. Hers was a one time (presumably) splice of time.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 13, 2017 • 6:45:51am

re: #75 makeitstop

Yep.We had a wall phone in the kitchen, but the phone in the living room had about a 30-foot cord on it. I could pretty much walk from one end of our house to the other with it.

Heh, I remember those. About the same with the phone I had as a kid growing up….insanely long cord.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 13, 2017 • 6:48:02am

re: #76 lawhawk

Indeed. The local prosecutors have been unable to crack that nut because the church does act like a cult and gets its members to lie and obstruct justice.

To me, the way through is to start charging everyone from the church leader on down with obstruction of justice and conspiracy (perhaps treat as RICO), and work backwards. It seems everyone there knows that the lies are occurring to cover up the abuse, so start from there. Once you get the church leaders out of the way, then you can actually move forward on the abuse claims.

That would be a first if I’m not mistaken. Going after a church using the RICO statues…..oh man, the screaming would be deafening.

Not saying it’s not worth looking at or that it shouldn’t be done, but there will assuredly be a major backlash, mostly from the fundies, and mostly out of fear that they’ll be next.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2017 • 6:52:51am

Breitbart’s awfulness aside. Don’t any of these guys have daughters? sisters? nieces? You know you’re a partisan hack when you go all out to defend someone like this and you know you’re really pathetic when you go “Yeah well even if the allegations are true, I’m still voting/supporting him.” Jesus H. Christ.

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Jay C  Nov 13, 2017 • 6:53:23am

re: #77 jaunte

The Breitbarters are forgetting that the important part of the story is not what room the phone rang in, but that a 32 year old predator asked a 14 year old for the number.

Hardly “forgetting”, IMO: more like “desperately trying to deflect” .

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mmmirele  Nov 13, 2017 • 6:54:54am

re: #8 BigPapa

I told a friend it was missing Pedobear, so he shooped it in.

I can’t believe we’re having this discussion.
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 13, 2017 • 6:57:33am

re: #76 lawhawk

Indeed. The local prosecutors have been unable to crack that nut because the church does act like a cult and gets its members to lie and obstruct justice.

To me, the way through is to start charging everyone from the church leader on down with obstruction of justice and conspiracy (perhaps treat as RICO), and work backwards.

That is what they threatened to do with the Catholic Church over their pedophile scandal.

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I cannot.  Nov 13, 2017 • 7:02:26am

Watching a playthrough of Wolfenstein II…

…it is BRUTAL, I don’t mean in the blowing shit up manner, I mean, I keep having to stop watching a guy play it in order for me to calm down. And this isn’t senseless brutality, it has a clear goal, and it is very effective. The game itself appears to look and play beautifully. Also, Nazis are butthurt about a game about killing Nazis having Nazi killiing in it. So there’s three good reasons to buy the game.

And the Nazi butthurt is a good reason to buy it even if you don’t even have a computer.

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makeitstop  Nov 13, 2017 • 7:04:49am

So Hannity is buying 500 Kuerigs today for people to smash.

Brilliant plan, Lumpy. That’ll show ‘em.
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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2017 • 7:05:56am

re: #87 makeitstop

So Hannity is buying 500 Kuerigs today for people to smash.

Brilliant plan, Lumpy. That’ll show ‘em.
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Go ahead Lumpy, you’re only wasting your money, making yourself look like a child, etc. You sure are showing those liberal elites at Keurig. ///

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2017 • 7:07:08am

Don’t know what’s more hilarious- That they think this is how boycotts work or that they really think that we’re outraged by them destroying an item that they purchased or and in many cases seem to be purchasing simply to smash.

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dangerman  Nov 13, 2017 • 7:07:24am

re: #87 makeitstop

So Hannity is buying 500 Kuerigs today for people to smash.

Brilliant plan, Lumpy. That’ll show ‘em.
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maybe they’ll be another brand?
or is that giving him too much creditr for thought?

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scottslemmons  Nov 13, 2017 • 7:07:32am

re: #86 I cannot.

Watching a playthrough of Wolfenstein II…

…it is BRUTAL, I don’t mean in the blowing shit up manner, I mean, I keep having to stop watching a guy play it in order for me to calm down. And this isn’t senseless brutality, it has a clear goal, and it is very effective.

I’m battling myself on whether or not to buy that one. On one hand, shooting Nazis! On the other hand, $60. My brother loved it, but this is a style of game I never seem to do well on. I tried a replay of the recent Doom game the other night, and even on lowest difficulty, I missed a lot of my shots and died or almost died very often… :(

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jaunte  Nov 13, 2017 • 7:07:42am

re: #87 makeitstop

Multi-millionaire throws away a nickel to demonstrate his contempt for money.

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scottslemmons  Nov 13, 2017 • 7:11:47am

re: #87 makeitstop

So Hannity is buying 500 Kuerigs today for people to smash.

Brilliant plan, Lumpy. That’ll show ‘em.
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I don’t even know what to say. I mean, yes, I’m triggered, I’m sure Keurig is triggered, George Soros is fuuuuuming.

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Shropshire Slasher  Nov 13, 2017 • 7:12:38am

re: #87 makeitstop

I found it very political. I have it on “I am death Incarnate” so I don’t run through it, and savor every bit.

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sagehen  Nov 13, 2017 • 7:12:45am

re: #88 HappyWarrior

Go ahead Lumpy, you’re only wasting your money, making yourself look like a child, etc. You sure are showing those liberal elites at Keurig. ///

There’s a scene in “Straight Outta Compton” where the NWA bus is passing by where some local protesters are bulldozing a whole street full of their records; Eazy-E just laughs and laughs. “They had to buy all those records. They’re paying us to be able to do that, and running the album up the sales charts!!”

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I cannot.  Nov 13, 2017 • 7:14:08am

re: #91 scottslemmons

Me either…cheat codes exist for a reason.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2017 • 7:15:54am

re: #95 sagehen

There’s a scene in “Straight Outta Compton” where the NWA bus is passing by where some local protesters are bulldozing a whole street full of their records; Eazy-E just laughs and laughs. “They had to buy all those records. They’re paying us to be able to do that, and running the album up the sales charts!!”

Heh not to mention the publicity that would have gotten them. Idiots.

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makeitstop  Nov 13, 2017 • 7:16:04am

re: #95 sagehen

There’s a scene in “Straight Outta Compton” where the NWA bus is passing by where some local protesters are bulldozing a whole street full of their records; Eazy-E just laughs and laughs. “They had to buy all those records. They’re paying us to be able to do that, and running the album up the sales charts!!”

Exactly.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 13, 2017 • 7:17:20am

re: #98 makeitstop

Exactly.

People were buying Beatles records just to burn them…

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2017 • 7:17:29am

But let’s be serious here. They’re doing this because Keurig pulled their ads from Hannity because of how soft Hannity has gone on Moore. That just hurts my head thinking about.

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jaunte  Nov 13, 2017 • 7:20:38am

500 Keurig coffee makers cost a little more than 24k. (49.96 at Wal-mart).
Ad rates on Hannity in prime time run 5-6k per 30 second spot.
Hannity has a net worth of $80 million.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2017 • 7:22:17am

re: #101 jaunte

500 Keurig coffee makers cost a little more than 24k. (49.96 at Wal-mart).
Ad rates on Hannity in prime time run 5-6k per 30 second spot.
Hannity has a net worth of $80 million.

That just makes me queasy thinking about it. That guy is worth 80 million? And he complains about elites? Look in the mirror buddy.

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jaunte  Nov 13, 2017 • 7:23:20am

re: #102 HappyWarrior

He’s so committed he’s investing a whole 2 minutes commercials worth into this Keurig stunt.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2017 • 7:26:03am

re: #103 jaunte

He’s so committed he’s investing a whole 2 minutes commercials worth into this Keurig stunt.

He’s giving them free publicity. If I were Keurig, I’d send him one with a thank you note.

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jaunte  Nov 13, 2017 • 7:28:19am

Icelandic crime spree:

The Christmas goat’s history is a harrowing tale of pain, pyromania and police. In 2010, the first goat was erected outside IKEA in Garðabær, it lasted until December 23 before being roasted alive. The year after, heavy winds blew the goat on its side and in 2012 it was again burned. In 2013, an electric fence was put up around it, but again, heavy winds blew it over

In 2014, miraculously the goat survived unscathed, but the following year the goat caught fire from faulty string lights. Then last year, the goat was set ablaze by three drunken pyromaniacs, who were caught following a high speed chase. This summer, the trio was found guilt of burning the goat and ordered to pay a fine.

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scottslemmons  Nov 13, 2017 • 7:28:23am

Could Sean Hannity boycott me? Money’s getting tight, and $25K would help a lot…

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jaunte  Nov 13, 2017 • 7:30:36am
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Decatur Deb  Nov 13, 2017 • 7:30:47am

re: #105 jaunte

Icelandic crime spree:

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Events on the Playa just get lamer every year.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2017 • 7:32:11am

re: #107 jaunte

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I bet those guys who defended him on Friday night are feeling really good right now. // I like Kurt Eicnehwald mind you but Kurt, Sean wasn’t worth defending.

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makeitstop  Nov 13, 2017 • 7:32:31am

re: #101 jaunte

500 Keurig coffee makers cost a little more than 24k. (49.96 at Wal-mart).
Ad rates on Hannity in prime time run 5-6k per 30 second spot.
Hannity has a net worth of $80 million.

Not necessarily. It depends upon how the show is delivered.

A lot of syndicated shows operate on a ‘trade-barter’ system. That means that the shows are delivered to the stations for free with the national ads included and empty slots for additional ads, and the local stations make their money by selling local ads and inserting them into the blank spaces.

The syndication company books the national ads, often at a bulk rate because they’re buying for a number of shows and insert them as needed. So they may end up getting $3 - 4 grand for a spot, if that.

I worked in syndication for a couple of years for a music program in the early 90s, and I remember that there was a controversy with Limbaugh’s ratings - the syndication company was allowing small market stations to run the shows a second time over weekends, and counting the weekday ratings twice. That was how Limbaugh was able to game his ratings to seem like he was reaching a much bigger audience than he actually was.

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Belafon  Nov 13, 2017 • 7:34:19am

re: #109 HappyWarrior

I bet those guys who defended him on Friday night are feeling really good right now. // I like Kurt Eicnehwald mind you but Kurt, Sean wasn’t worth defending.

In the original sequence, it didn’t sound like Hannity was defending Moore. Subsequent statements since then show Hannity changing his tune, but it doesn’t change the original statement.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2017 • 7:35:04am

re: #111 Belafon

In the original sequence, it didn’t sound like Hannity was defending Moore. Subsequent statements since then show Hannity changing his tune, but it doesn’t change the original statement.

Fair enough.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2017 • 7:35:49am

Hannity wants to talk about bearing false witness though. Look at your entire career, dude and your hero, Limbaugh.

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jaunte  Nov 13, 2017 • 7:36:03am

re: #110 makeitstop

Sure, I’m just pointing out the additional absurdity that Hannity’s senseless publicity stunt is costing him less than pennies in comparison to his advertising take and net worth.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 13, 2017 • 7:36:06am

re: #111 Belafon

In the original sequence, it didn’t sound like Hannity was defending Moore. Subsequent statements since then show Hannity changing his tune, but it doesn’t change the original statement.

He was more about attacking the “fake news press” than in defending any one specific person, but the intent was the same.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2017 • 7:36:58am

re: #115 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He was more about attacking the “fake news press” than in defending any one specific person, but the intent was the same.

For a member of the media and one who has had his own show on FNC for a very long time, he certainly is denial that he too is the media.

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makeitstop  Nov 13, 2017 • 7:41:51am

re: #114 jaunte

Sure, I’m just pointing out the additional absurdity that Hannity’s senseless publicity stunt is costing him less than pennies in comparison to his advertising take and net worth.

True.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2017 • 7:42:49am

You know, I’m honestly surprised that Hannity himself has never eben accused of sexual harassment. Could be that Lumpy’s just an enabler though like Pence.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 13, 2017 • 7:43:40am

re: #116 HappyWarrior

For a member of the media and one who has had his own show on FNC for a very long time, he certainly is denial that he too is the media.

no, he is the Truth, the Fairness and the Balance: three persons in one

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2017 • 7:44:04am

re: #119 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

no, he is the Truth, the Fairness and the Balance: three persons in one

The Holy Trinity of Derp.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 13, 2017 • 7:46:06am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2017 • 7:48:19am

re: #121 FormerDirtDart

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He like them is desperate for any thing that will look like a victory.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 13, 2017 • 7:49:38am

re: #87 makeitstop

So Hannity is buying 500 Kuerigs today for people to smash.

Brilliant plan, Lumpy. That’ll show ‘em.
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“as god is my witness, i though keurigs could fly…”

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 13, 2017 • 7:49:54am

Hate to say it, but Allred’s involvement will just cause establishment R’s to dig in, like they did when she rep’d several of Trump’s accusers.

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lawhawk  Nov 13, 2017 • 7:50:45am

re: #123 Backwoods_Sleuth

You don’t have a sufficiently large air cannon or trebuchet.

How to Build a Trebuchet | MythBusters

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2017 • 7:52:13am

re: #124 FormerDirtDart

Hate to say it, but Allred’s involvement will just cause establishment R’s to dig in, like they did when she rep’d several of Trump’s accusers.

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Yep, they’ll be focused more on the attorney than the fact there are new allegations.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 13, 2017 • 7:54:13am

GQ Magazine should have named Todd Starnes “Douchenozzle of the Year”

Fox News deleted the Tweet but it’s at their website.

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John Carter  Nov 13, 2017 • 7:55:14am

re: #93 scottslemmons

I don’t even know what to say. I mean, yes, I’m triggered, I’m sure Keurig is triggered, George Soros is fuuuuuming.

Few of his viewers probably use Keurigs. I’m not saying they are the end all but they are expensive and new fangled. So that would time out there rubes and the old folks.

I never cared for their output (I prefer to brew my own) but I can see the appeal.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 13, 2017 • 7:55:49am
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Belafon  Nov 13, 2017 • 7:57:51am

re: #129 Backwoods_Sleuth

Don’t like that he’s part of a pharmaceutical, but at least he’s been a deputy secretary of HHS.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 13, 2017 • 7:59:05am
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FormerDirtDart  Nov 13, 2017 • 7:59:25am

re: #126 HappyWarrior

Yep, they’ll be focused more on the attorney than the fact there are new allegations.

And, you would have to think Allred knows this too.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 13, 2017 • 8:00:09am
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William Lewis  Nov 13, 2017 • 8:00:21am

re: #132 FormerDirtDart

And, you would have to think Allred knows this too.

Ego?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2017 • 8:00:38am

re: #132 FormerDirtDart

And, you would have to think Allred knows this too.

I would hope so.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2017 • 8:01:33am

The re: #134 William Lewis

Ego?

I don’t know if it’s ego. She does have experience in this and she may be representing this woman pro bono too.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 13, 2017 • 8:02:14am

re: #129 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’d almost forgotten that whatshisname had resigned over something. But I’m glad the new guy will be a “star”.

/

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Sir John Barron  Nov 13, 2017 • 8:03:03am

re: #133 Dave In Austin

I’d never considered the virtues of conservative wingnutism before, but now that a few of these brave creatures have smashed their coffee machines over Hannity and Moore I may give their world a second look.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 13, 2017 • 8:03:30am

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2017 • 8:03:42am

Azar- Former deputy HHS sec in Bush years and President of Lilly USA.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 13, 2017 • 8:05:00am

re: #121 FormerDirtDart

Cut top rate to 35% w/all of the rest going to middle income cuts?

What? LOLTrump.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2017 • 8:05:33am

re: #139 FormerDirtDart

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Seems to me, he’s just really into the culture. Seems harmless to me.

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Teukka  Nov 13, 2017 • 8:06:56am

re: #105 jaunte

Icelandic crime spree:

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Same problem with the Christmas goat in Gävle, Sweden. I believe the years it hasn’t been burnt to the ground can be counted on one hand…

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makeitstop  Nov 13, 2017 • 8:07:10am

re: #125 lawhawk

You don’t have a sufficiently large air cannon or trebuchet.

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Speaking of which - I saw that the new ‘Mythbusters’ premiere is this week.

This Dynamic Duo Will Bust You Up. Meet The New MythBusters!

Who’s watching?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 13, 2017 • 8:11:51am

re: #130 Belafon

Don’t like that he’s part of a pharmaceutical, but at least he’s been a deputy secretary of HHS.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 13, 2017 • 8:13:06am

re: #87 makeitstop

Deplorable friends, I am buying 500 coffee makers tomorrow to give away!! Details on radio and TV. Hint; best videos!!

— Sean Hannity

I hope wingnuts change the name of their Values Voters Summit to Deplorable Values Voters Summit soon.

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Belafon  Nov 13, 2017 • 8:13:21am

re: #145 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yep, I ignored everything Trump said except the guy’s name.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 13, 2017 • 8:13:23am
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Eventual Carrion  Nov 13, 2017 • 8:13:33am

re: #72 sagehen

I remember that phones could have reasonably long cords; as a poor family, their house was probably small enough that you could be on the phone in a different room than where the phone supposedly was.

Yep. Out spiral cord would reach from the phone location in the kitchen by the back door all the way down to the bottom of the cellar steps.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2017 • 8:14:58am

re: #148 FormerDirtDart

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So support Jones as Republicans did when Duke was your party’s nominee in Louisiana.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 13, 2017 • 8:15:11am
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Sir John Barron  Nov 13, 2017 • 8:15:33am

re: #148 FormerDirtDart

Talk radio wingnuts start videotaping themselves smashing toy turtles…..

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 13, 2017 • 8:17:41am

re: #148 FormerDirtDart

They’re throwing him under the bus.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 13, 2017 • 8:17:42am
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Nov 13, 2017 • 8:20:21am

re: #86 I cannot.

Watching a playthrough of Wolfenstein II…

…it is BRUTAL, I don’t mean in the blowing shit up manner, I mean, ….

I just started playing Wolfenstein II, there are hard to deal with bits. But, the gameplay is really good, the cut-scenes tell a great story, and killing Nazis…

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Decatur Deb  Nov 13, 2017 • 8:20:42am

re: #153 Dr Lizardo

They’re throwing him under the bus.

thump THUMP,,, thump thump THUMP.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 13, 2017 • 8:21:32am
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Sir John Barron  Nov 13, 2017 • 8:25:10am

re: #43 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

This is a real thing (note discounted price):

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Golden Trump Presidential Coin

We misunderestimated how much the dolts would pay for this crap. $30 seemed like a reasonable shot. What say we go down to $20? $10, really? Oh well looks like we’ll need another grift.

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Charmingly Persistent  Nov 13, 2017 • 8:25:50am

re: #132 FormerDirtDart

And, you would have to think Allred knows this too.

So you guys think she shouldn’t do her job because there are people who don’t like her?

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makeitstop  Nov 13, 2017 • 8:30:54am

re: #153 Dr Lizardo

They’re throwing him under the bus.

Either that, or they’re going to try to bluff their way through, with leadership saying one thing and doing nothing about it, and Moore saying another and trying to tough it out until the election and hope for the best.

Remember that Turtle has been ‘concerned’ about things Trump has said or done a lot of times and did absolutely nothing to stop any of it.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2017 • 8:33:10am

re: #159 Charmingly Persistent (EmmaAnne)

So you guys think she shouldn’t do her job because there are people who don’t like her?

Oh, no not at all. I’m fine with her representing the victims. I just stated that she’ll be the focus since she’s so prominent. Nothing wrong with her.

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ObserverArt  Nov 13, 2017 • 8:40:06am

I think the Democrats need to start saying Trump and anyone that supports him hates America. He goes on his Asian trip and all he does is put this country’s institutions down and play up people like Putin and Duterte.

Make America Great Again? I don’t think so.

Make the World Acceptable to Dictators. Seems to be the case.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 13, 2017 • 8:40:09am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 13, 2017 • 8:40:59am

heh

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lawhawk  Nov 13, 2017 • 8:41:23am
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meteor  Nov 13, 2017 • 8:41:29am

re: #148 FormerDirtDart

Whoa shit. He actually did something decent for once?

Good thing I’m sitting down.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2017 • 8:41:33am

re: #162 ObserverArt

I think the Democrats need to start saying Trump and anyone that supports him hates America. He goes on his Asian trip and all he does is put this country’s institutions down and play up people like Putin and Duterte.

Make America Great Again? I don’t think so.

Make the World Acceptable to Dictators. Seems to be the case.

The fact of the matter is he’s been much more friendly to dictators like Duerte and Putin than he has democratically elected leaders like Trudeau, Marcon, and Markel.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2017 • 8:42:12am

re: #164 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh

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You mad Matt?

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 13, 2017 • 8:46:44am

re: #166 meteor

Whoa shit. He actually did something decent for once?

Good thing I’m sitting down.

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dangerman  Nov 13, 2017 • 8:49:47am

My last salutes and greets from NYC. Today’s runlog:

Light rain, at or under 40 and starting an hour later than yesterday. Plus a workday Monday.

Interesting at home a mostly small town at 6am many cars seem to aim for me. They blow stop signs, do not look both ways and sort of assume their way through things. I feel a target. Here in NYC I never got the feeling a car truck or taxi had me in his sights on purpose. Never felt threatened. Dodging those walking to work with deadly umbrellas…well.

Yesterday was the South Street seaport, battery, and statue of liberty. Today the piers up the west side. There’s a ship-museum you’ve probably heard of it…the Intrepid. On my way North I didn’t see it. Running back south I can’t imagine how I managed to miss it. Runners concentration or more likely clear headed drifting. It’s pretty big up close. And the signs…

Passed about 10 or 15 runners. Nope no one says hi. Had to dodge horse manure. At home I run horse trails it’s expected. Asphalted NYC? A weird surprise.

A nice 50 minute out and back recovering from yesterday. Tomorrow a.m. we’ll be in Beacon NY. It’s snowing there and im expecting 29 degrees. I am not pleased with what I’m facing for my last 50 minute run before flying home tomorrow night.

Still that’s whats there, thats what Im gonna do.

Enjoy your day

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 13, 2017 • 8:55:57am

re: #169 FormerDirtDart

They must be shitting bricks. Why am I’m thinking that the GOP’s internal polling on the Alabama Senate race (which McConnell certainly has access to) must be pretty bad?

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sagehen  Nov 13, 2017 • 8:57:15am

re: #165 lawhawk

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John Carter  Nov 13, 2017 • 8:59:05am

re: #171 Dr Lizardo

They must be shitting bricks. Why am I’m thinking that the GOP’s internal polling on the Alabama Senate race (which McConnell certainly has access to) must be pretty bad?

Another shoe is about to drop. Just a guess.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2017 • 8:59:19am

re: #171 Dr Lizardo

They must be shitting bricks. Why am I’m thinking that the GOP’s internal polling on the Alabama Senate race (which McConnell certainly has access to) must be pretty bad?

It’s gotta be. They stuck with Trump after Access Hollywood.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 13, 2017 • 9:00:22am

re: #173 John Carter

Another shoe is about to drop. Just a guess.

Could well be. And not just this new accuser that Allred is apparently representing.

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sagehen  Nov 13, 2017 • 9:02:44am

re: #170 dangerman

Passed about 10 or 15 runners. Nope no one says hi. Had to dodge horse manure. At home I run horse trails it’s expected. Asphalted NYC? A weird surprise.

Not weird, shouldn’t be a surprise. Those horse-drawn carriages in and around Central Park? And the mounted police? Those horses are stabled at 52nd St by the Hudson River.

During DeBlasio’s first mayoral run he made an issue of getting rid of the horses, supposedly backed by PETA… turns out, the entire “anti-animal cruelty horses don’t belong in the city” campaign was financed by a real estate investment firm that had their eye on the property.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 13, 2017 • 9:04:38am

re: #174 HappyWarrior

It’s gotta be. They stuck with Trump after Access Hollywood.

The irony of course is that if McConnell’s suggestion* of launching a write-in candidate is followed through on, it could be enough to split the GOP vote and Doug Jones wins instead.

* that was actually my rather cynical suggestion a few days back to create a situation that could lead to a Jones victory. Heh…..maybe Senator McConnell lurks here, LOL.

Hi, Mitch!

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Citizen K  Nov 13, 2017 • 9:06:18am

I spent much of the weekend out of it due to stress and sinus infection. This is not how I wanted my Monday to start.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2017 • 9:11:02am

re: #178 Citizen K

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I spent much of the weekend out of it due to stress and sinus infection. This is not how I wanted my Monday to start.

They both have contempt for basic liberty.

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Citizen K  Nov 13, 2017 • 9:11:08am

re: #86 I cannot.

Watching a playthrough of Wolfenstein II…

…it is BRUTAL, I don’t mean in the blowing shit up manner, I mean, I keep having to stop watching a guy play it in order for me to calm down. And this isn’t senseless brutality, it has a clear goal, and it is very effective. The game itself appears to look and play beautifully. Also, Nazis are butthurt about a game about killing Nazis having Nazi killiing in it. So there’s three good reasons to buy the game.

And the Nazi butthurt is a good reason to buy it even if you don’t even have a computer.

I sadly lack the current consoles or a strong enough PC to get it. Will probably have to wait until the Switch version comes out to play it. That said, it’s definitely a visceral ride. New Order was much the same, but something about New Colossus feels more…personal in a way.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 13, 2017 • 9:11:31am

re: #164 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh

This almost as bad as what the Breitbart journalists uncovered—turns out the Wash Post writers actually got the witnesses to speak out! What kind of non-subservient journalism is that? Where is the MAGA?

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gocart mozart  Nov 13, 2017 • 9:12:49am
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Sir John Barron  Nov 13, 2017 • 9:15:19am

re: #182 gocart mozart

I got the best cheers in the Philipinos! Everybody loves me and what I’m doing to MAGA!

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 13, 2017 • 9:16:04am
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teleskiguy  Nov 13, 2017 • 9:17:05am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2017 • 9:17:36am

re: #184 FormerDirtDart

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They’re wrong about Cuba and Brazil too. What’s 85-90 years between friends though?

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Sir John Barron  Nov 13, 2017 • 9:18:45am

re: #184 FormerDirtDart

“The most tiring of whining complaints are those about where our funding comes from and how come we don’t comment on news items harmful to us wingnuts and our lying, misinformed slavery articles.”

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Citizen K  Nov 13, 2017 • 9:18:59am

re: #184 FormerDirtDart

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Well, for one thing, once the Atlantic Slave Trade was being phased out, we moved on to straight up chattel slavery, so…there’s that. You know, if you weren’t asshats that weren’t trying to whitewash the US’s stained history re:slavery.

Jesus crystalline Christ, fragile he may be…

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dangerman  Nov 13, 2017 • 9:21:30am

re: #184 FormerDirtDart

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All that 20th century Soviet forced labor ..not slavery?

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Sir John Barron  Nov 13, 2017 • 9:23:42am

re: #186 HappyWarrior

They’re wrong about Cuba and Brazil too. What’s 85-90 years between friends though?

Someone pointed out how each of the dates is one year after the prior one so they must have been using a program that just added the dates by one. But yeah some decent editing would have spotted that.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2017 • 9:26:41am

re: #190 Sir John Barron

Someone pointed out how each of the dates is one year after the prior one so they must have been using a program that just added the dates by one. But yeah some decent editing would have spotted that.

Yeah some real lazy editing and research there. Me thinks someone had a narrative.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 13, 2017 • 9:29:38am

re: #191 HappyWarrior

Yeah some real lazy editing and research there. Me thinks someone had a narrative.

Because once that 1797 was out there, it’d be accepted as gospel fact by the wingnutosphere, that’s why.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 13, 2017 • 9:29:56am

re: #191 HappyWarrior

Yeah some real lazy editing and research there. Me thinks someone had a narrative.

Federalist: All the America hating libtards are wrong and we were really good on slavery, abolished it in 1797.

Normal person: actually 1865 through Constitutional Amendment after secession and Civil War.

Federalist: Fascinating. Let me check my sources on this.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 13, 2017 • 9:30:43am

re: #192 Dr Lizardo

Because once that 1797 was out there, it’d be accepted as gospel fact by the wingnutosphere, that’s why.

“Some people say America really abolished slavery in 1797. Some people disagree. Let’s debate both sides.”

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2017 • 9:33:37am

re: #193 Sir John Barron

Federalist: All the America hating libtards are wrong and we were really good on slavery, abolished it in 1797.

Normal person: actually 1865 through Constitutional Amendment after secession and Civil War.

Federalist: Fascinating. Let me check my sources on this.

I mean I get that their goal is to try to white wash everything but damn, that’s just comically wrong.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2017 • 9:35:07am

Speaking of which, one thing about the CSA that never really gets too much conversation is that the CSA would put captured black Union men into slavery regardless of their pre-war condition. Yet another reason why I don’t like hearing the Army of Northern Virginia talked about as men of honor.

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CongoJack  Nov 13, 2017 • 9:37:38am

re: #193 Sir John Barron

re: #194 Sir John Barron

Not defending the Federalist in this as they are wrong. But the date they have of 1797 may have been when the US outlawed the slave trade from Africa - (thus returned peoples to Africa went to the founded country of Liberia). The slave trade in the country was not outlawed but they did not allow (unless smuggled in) new slaves to come in from Africa.

I’d research and give the data - but I’m a little indisposed at the moment and this is off the top of my head.

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sagehen  Nov 13, 2017 • 9:38:13am

re: #188 Citizen K

Well, for one thing, once the Atlantic Slave Trade was being phased out, we moved on to straight up chattel slavery, so…there’s that. You know, if you weren’t asshats that weren’t trying to whitewash the US’s stained history re:slavery.

Jesus crystalline Christ, fragile he may be…

We had chattel slavery every single day that we ever had slavery.

The European serfs were sorta almost kinda like slaves, except it wasn’t chattel slavery ever. They were considered attached to the land, part of the real estate. So even at its worst, they didn’t break up the families and sell the kids far away.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 13, 2017 • 9:38:36am

re: #196 HappyWarrior

Speaking of which, one thing about the CSA that never really gets too much conversation is that the CSA would put captured black Union men into slavery regardless of their pre-war condition. Yet another reason why I don’t like hearing the Army of Northern Virginia talked about as men of honor.

And wouldn’t exchange them equally for White Confederate prisoners, etc.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 13, 2017 • 9:39:00am

re: #195 HappyWarrior

I mean I get that their goal is to try to white wash everything but damn, that’s just comically wrong.

It’s less about being comically wrong, and more about creating an alternate reality. And that may well be what the writer was trying to do; ‘The Federalist’ is taken quite seriously in wingnut circles.

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sagehen  Nov 13, 2017 • 9:40:35am

re: #197 CongoJack

Not defending the Federalist in this as they are wrong. But the date they have of 1797 may have been when the US outlawed the slave trade from Africa - (thus returned peoples to Africa went to the founded country of Liberia). The slave trade in the country was not outlawed but they did not allow (unless smuggled in) new slaves to come in from Africa.

I’d research and give the data - but I’m a little indisposed at the moment and this is off the top of my head.

Not true.

Importing slaves to the US was outlawed starting 1810 (it was written into the constitution that way, so slavers/auctioneers/etc would have plenty of time to plan for it).

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Kragar  Nov 13, 2017 • 9:42:50am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2017 • 9:43:12am

re: #197 CongoJack

Not defending the Federalist in this as they are wrong. But the date they have of 1797 may have been when the US outlawed the slave trade from Africa - (thus returned peoples to Africa went to the founded country of Liberia). The slave trade in the country was not outlawed but they did not allow (unless smuggled in) new slaves to come in from Africa.

I’d research and give the data - but I’m a little indisposed at the moment and this is off the top of my head.

Slave trade was banned in 1809 IIRC.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2017 • 9:43:46am

re: #202 Kragar

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Coming from a woman whose entire existence is being a right wing grifter whining about liberals. Shut up Tomi.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2017 • 9:45:49am

re: #199 Sir John Barron

And wouldn’t exchange them equally for White Confederate prisoners, etc.

Yep. And they executed white officers commanding black troops too. But hey there were black confederates. //

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teleskiguy  Nov 13, 2017 • 9:48:19am

A sport that has pretty much no margin for error has claimed one of its elite practitioners.

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Kragar  Nov 13, 2017 • 9:50:08am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2017 • 9:50:13am

Nothing is free? Never claimed it was. In fact, I think that message can apply to many in your movement who thought you could just demand Mexico build a wall.

Crying doesn’t solve any problems? Oh you mean like throwing a fit over being wished a Happy Holidays?

Screaming doesn’t make you right? I agree, have you ever listened to Trump or Alex Jones speak? Lots of shouting there.

Not everyone is a winner? Who the hell are you to tell anyone that.

There are no “Safe Spaces.”: Ah safe spaces, the favorite right wing attack at liberals. Tell me, what are conservative instiutions of higher education if not safe spaces.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2017 • 9:50:42am

re: #207 Kragar

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JFC.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2017 • 9:51:04am

re: #206 teleskiguy

A sport that has pretty much no margin for error has claimed one of its elite practitioners.

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Damn that’s awful.

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Romantic Heretic  Nov 13, 2017 • 9:51:23am

re: #70 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, classic cult organization. Isolate, misinform, program with fear and repetition, control every aspect of their lives.

I wonder if they have their Kool-Aid prepared.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2017 • 9:51:58am

re: #201 sagehen

Not true.

Importing slaves to the US was outlawed starting 1810 (it was written into the constitution that way, so slavers/auctioneers/etc would have plenty of time to plan for it).

Still went on long after that too.

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Belafon  Nov 13, 2017 • 9:53:34am

re: #208 HappyWarrior

Fox News is a conservative safe space.

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sagehen  Nov 13, 2017 • 9:53:45am

re: #212 HappyWarrior

Still went on long after that too.

Smuggling, you mean. Absolutely not legal.

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Kragar  Nov 13, 2017 • 9:54:11am
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Citizen K  Nov 13, 2017 • 9:54:48am

re: #201 sagehen

Not true.

Importing slaves to the US was outlawed starting 1810 (it was written into the constitution that way, so slavers/auctioneers/etc would have plenty of time to plan for it).

Yeah, that’s more of what I meant by my comment above, sorry for the poor word choice.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 13, 2017 • 9:55:04am
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BlueSpotinAL  Nov 13, 2017 • 9:55:12am

Roy Moore vs Doug Jones signage update:
I had the chance to drive through Trump territory, saw one Jones sign,
no Roy Moore signs to be seen anywhere. Maybe I should have
gone by the middle school to find signs of Roy Moore.

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Kragar  Nov 13, 2017 • 9:56:42am

re: #218 BlueSpotinAL

Roy Moore vs Doug Jones signage update:
I had the chance to drive through Trump territory, saw one Jones sign,
no Roy Moore signs to be seen anywhere. Maybe I should have
gone by the middle school to find signs of Roy Moore.

Moore signs are not allowed within 500 yards of a school or day care center

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 13, 2017 • 10:05:33am
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stpaulbear  Nov 13, 2017 • 10:06:42am

What would happen if you signed up for one of Hannity’s coffee makers and then didn’t post a video of smashing it?

Just asking for a friend…

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 13, 2017 • 10:07:36am

re: #220 Backwoods_Sleuth

Personally, I’d love to see Idris Elba as 007.

But lordy, I can’t even begin to imagine the pants-shitting psychotic breakdown that would follow.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Nov 13, 2017 • 10:07:52am

re: #221 stpaulbear

What would happen if you signed up for one of Hannity’s coffee makers and then didn’t post a video of smashing it?

Just asking for a friend…

Please do it. Updings for life.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2017 • 10:09:37am

re: #221 stpaulbear

What would happen if you signed up for one of Hannity’s coffee makers and then didn’t post a video of smashing it?

Just asking for a friend…

You’d have a coffee maker.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2017 • 10:09:52am

re: #223 I Would Prefer Not To

Please do it. Updings for life.

Ditto that.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 13, 2017 • 10:10:02am

re: #221 stpaulbear

What would happen if you signed up for one of Hannity’s coffee makers and then didn’t post a video of smashing it?

Just asking for a friend…

Liberal sabotage!

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I cannot.  Nov 13, 2017 • 10:11:32am

re: #180 Citizen K

It is INTENSELY personal, not just due to modern times…let’s just say BJ’s daddy was not in the running for parent of the year…that scene forced me to stop watching at least twice. And with BJ starting out in a fucking wheelchair…and still kicking ass when he can’t even stand up.

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Kragar  Nov 13, 2017 • 10:11:56am
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teleskiguy  Nov 13, 2017 • 10:12:46am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 13, 2017 • 10:13:48am

re: #221 stpaulbear

What would happen if you signed up for one of Hannity’s coffee makers and then didn’t post a video of smashing it?

Just asking for a friend…

post a video of yourself enjoying an excellent cup of coffee…

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 13, 2017 • 10:14:54am

Oh, Jonah, do you ever tire of being wrong?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2017 • 10:16:56am

re: #231 Ace-o-aces

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Oh, Jonah, do you ever tire of being wrong?

Jonah lives in the NRO bubble.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 13, 2017 • 10:18:10am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2017 • 10:18:17am

re: #230 Backwoods_Sleuth

post a video of yourself enjoying an excellent cup of coffee…

We have a winner.

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ObserverArt  Nov 13, 2017 • 10:22:14am

re: #215 Kragar

The Hill ✔@thehill
#BREAKING: Moore fires back at McConnell: He’s the one who needs to step down, not me hill.cm
12:51 PM - Nov 13, 2017

I like fissures forming in the GOP.

Mitch and the gang were fine with Trump and Bannon thinking they could use them and work with them. Now this. Couldn’t happen to a more screwed up political party.

I hope some of the crazy base is pissed off enough with established GOP politicians they either stay home on voting day or they vote for a Democrat or Independent just to show them GOP boys in DC what’s what.

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I cannot.  Nov 13, 2017 • 10:25:31am

re: #222 Dr Lizardo

That is one of the selling points of Idris Elba as 007…

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weave  Nov 13, 2017 • 10:27:13am

I’m not reading this the same way the rest of you seem to be. He isn’t saying he’s buying Keurigs. I think he meant to say he’s buying some other brand to replace the Keurigs that people are smashing.

Certainly even Hannity isn’t THAT stupid.

ps, there is one big takeaway advertisers should learn from this. Never ever think about advertising on these shows TO START WITH. Because once you start, you can never leave. Just better to avoid the controversy to begin with.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2017 • 10:28:44am

re: #236 I cannot.

That is one of the selling points of Idris Elba as 007…

Well that and he’s awesome. But I’d be lying to you if I didn’t want to see the shitstorm a black Bond would cause especially if Idris has white Bond ladies.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2017 • 10:29:16am

Would be even more shit stirring if they had a gay Bond.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 13, 2017 • 10:30:29am

re: #239 HappyWarrior

Would be even more shit stirring if they had a gay Bond.

I think we’ll get a black Bond and a female Bond before we get a gay one.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 13, 2017 • 10:30:30am

re: #238 HappyWarrior

Well that and he’s awesome. But I’d be lying to you if I didn’t want to see the shitstorm a black Bond would cause especially if Idris has white Bond ladies.

I still remember when the Stanley Theater in Pittsburgh was bombed when they showed The Great White Hope.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 13, 2017 • 10:30:50am

re: #236 I cannot.

That is one of the selling points of Idris Elba as 007…

LOL

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2017 • 10:31:24am

re: #240 Eclectic Cyborg

I think we’ll get a black Bond and a female Bond before we get a gay one.

I think so too.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 13, 2017 • 10:32:17am

Idris Elba is a damned fine actor and he’d be a great James Bond, I have no doubt of that.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2017 • 10:32:20am

re: #241 Joe Bacon 🌹

I still remember when the Stanley Theater in Pittsburgh was bombed when they showed The Great White Hope.

My grandma was telling me that her cousin’s daughter got disowned for marrying a black man. Just breaks my heart to think about.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 13, 2017 • 10:33:58am

Just wanted to add, I think there’s going to be a lot of pants-shitting psychotic breakdowns coming with the release of Marvel’s Black Panther.

From the usual suspects, of course.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 13, 2017 • 10:34:08am

Not a bad idea. remind everyone about how the GOP handled the Mark Foley & House Page scandal

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Kilroy was here  Nov 13, 2017 • 10:34:14am

re: #239 HappyWarrior

I could see bi-sexual

You know, anything for Queen and Country..

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2017 • 10:34:16am

re: #244 Dr Lizardo

Idris Elba is a damned fine actor and he’d be a great James Bond, I have no doubt of that.

I’ve liked him in everything I’ve seen him in. He can be intimidating, charming, but also funny.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2017 • 10:35:16am

re: #248 Kilroy was here

I could see bi-sexual

You know, anything for Queen and Country..

It would be a neat twist for sure. I do hope Elba is considered and I do hope he considers it.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2017 • 10:36:05am

Before Craig got it and I’m glad he got it, I thought Clive Owen would have been good. Craig is incredible. My Dad when Craig first got the role whom had seen him in Layer Cake likened him to Steve McQueen.

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Belafon  Nov 13, 2017 • 10:36:40am

re: #248 Kilroy was here

I could see bi-sexual

You know, anything for Queen and Country..

That was implied in Skyfall.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2017 • 10:37:01am

Something funny about Wingnut friend using Ben Shapiro to shit on Chelsea Manning when Wingnut friend himself has used WIkileaks to push his agenda against HRC.

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Nov 13, 2017 • 10:37:10am

re: #245 HappyWarrior

In the mid-90s one of my distant cousins married a black man. My mother insisted that SHE didn’t have a problem with Tommy, she just worried about how people would treat their daughter. Every time I heard this, I’d ask her, “You mean how people like YOU would treat their daughter?”

My cousin ended up addicted to crack and losing custody of their daughter to Tommy, and I can tell you that none of the bigots in my family saw THAT coming.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2017 • 10:37:33am

I personally subsribe to the Bond character being a Code Name theory.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 13, 2017 • 10:39:55am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2017 • 10:40:09am

re: #254 Flying Squirrel Girl

In the mid-90s one of my distant cousins married a black man. My mother insisted that SHE didn’t have a problem with Tommy, she just worried about how people would treat their daughter. Every time I heard this, I’d ask her, “You mean how people like YOU would treat their daughter?”

My cousin ended up addicted to crack and losing custody of their daughter to Tommy, and I can tell you that none of the bigots in my family saw THAT coming.

AGh so cruel. My brother’s wife is Peruvian. I was very happy though not surprised to see all my family very welcoming and they all love my niece too and can’t wait to see more of her when they move back.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2017 • 10:40:35am

re: #256 FormerDirtDart

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I’ve seen some friends do it too.

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William Lewis  Nov 13, 2017 • 10:40:38am

re: #240 Eclectic Cyborg

I think we’ll get a black Bond and a female Bond before we get a gay one.

Alas that’s true, but imagine how hilarious the reactions in the theater would be!

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 13, 2017 • 10:41:04am

re: #255 HappyWarrior

I personally subsribe to the Bond character being a Code Name theory.

That’d be a way to introduce a mini-reboot/retcon. Say Mr. Elba becomes 007; it can be explained that he’s now assuming the name and number of the most legendary of MI6’s agents and his true identity will be erased. From that point on, he is James Bond 007.

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Kilroy was here  Nov 13, 2017 • 10:43:05am

On the Bond Topic.

Five Reasons James Bond Might Be the Worst Spy Ever | After Hours

James Bond… Mangrenade

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2017 • 10:45:29am

re: #260 Dr Lizardo

That’d be a way to introduce a mini-reboot/retcon. Say Mr. Elba becomes 007; it can be explained that he’s now assuming the name and number of the most legendary of MI6’s agents and his true identity will be erased. From that point on, he is James Bond 007.

Yeah could be a good twist and I always assume that. I always assume that either Connery’s Bond retired or died off screen. You know though, I don’t know of any good British-Pakistani or Indian actors but that would be neat down the road too. Hell I remember when Craig being blonde was controversial. Why make Bond always the same. Elba will definitely have his own unique taek on the character and yet fits what you see as the Bond character: tough, intelligent, shrewd, charming.

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lawhawk  Nov 13, 2017 • 10:48:37am

re: #207 Kragar

Which means the GOP will rubber stamp the pick anyways.

They’ve already rubber stamped four judicial picks that the ABA says were unqualified.

The fact that there was even one unqualified in a president’s tenure is unusual. Four shows that Trump doesn’t care about qualifications, and is instead insisting on packing the courts full of ideologues who want to reverse decades of socio-economic progress and are anything but originalists. They’re full-on regressive know-nothings who the GOP thinks will help them advance their agenda of screwing over women and minorities while allowing the richest of Americans become even more rich and powerful.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Nov 13, 2017 • 10:50:23am

Bah. What does the ABA know about MAGAing?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2017 • 10:50:48am

re: #263 lawhawk

Which means the GOP will rubber stamp the pick anyways.

They’ve already rubber stamped four judicial picks that the ABA says were unqualified.

The fact that there was even one unqualified in a president’s tenure is unusual. Four shows that Trump doesn’t care about qualifications, and is instead insisting on packing the courts full of ideologues who want to reverse decades of socio-economic progress and are anything but originalists. They’re full-on regressive know-nothings who the GOP thinks will help them advance their agenda of screwing over women and minorities while allowing the richest of Americans become even more rich and powerful.

I mean one maybe you let it slide. But four. That’s a trend. And it’s especially coming from a party that repeatedly trashes the judiciary when they’re ruled against. I see the narrative though and it’s that the “ABA is full of liberals.”

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2017 • 10:51:16am

The American Bar Association? Believe me, folks, I’ve never drank.//

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weave  Nov 13, 2017 • 10:52:16am

Then (08-Feb-2013)…

Now….

Oh, and there’s the little fact that the Obama poll was Quinnipiac and the Trump one is Rasmussen. Quinnipiac currently has Trump at 38%.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 13, 2017 • 10:52:38am
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I cannot.  Nov 13, 2017 • 10:53:19am

re: #260 Dr Lizardo

I say just have Idris walk into Miss Moneypenny’s office like he’s always been Bond.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2017 • 10:53:31am

re: #267 weave

Then (08-Feb-2013)…

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Oh, and there’s the little fact that the Obama poll was Quinnipiac and the Trump one is Rasmussen. Quinnipiac currently has Trump at 38%.

Bragging about a 46% approval rating is stupid.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2017 • 10:54:18am

re: #269 I cannot.

I say just have Idris walk into Miss Moneypenny’s office like he’s always been Bond.

That could work too. Either way, I hope they go with him. He’s awesome.

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lawhawk  Nov 13, 2017 • 10:55:51am

re: #265 HappyWarrior

I mean one maybe you let it slide. But four. That’s a trend. And it’s especially coming from a party that repeatedly trashes the judiciary when they’re ruled against. I see the narrative though and it’s that the “ABA is full of liberals.”

The ABA is nonpartisan and doesn’t make its judgments based on ideological positions - just their abilities to do the job.

None of these four meet the very basic definitions of qualified to hold a lifetime position in the federal judiciary.

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JordanRules  Nov 13, 2017 • 10:56:23am
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scottslemmons  Nov 13, 2017 • 10:56:55am

It feels like we’re getting close to a tipping point, where half the country is just going to say, fuck it, everything we ever said about our beliefs was a lie, we love pedophiles now.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2017 • 10:57:20am

re: #272 lawhawk

The ABA is nonpartisan and doesn’t make its judgments based on ideological positions - just their abilities to do the job.

None of these four meet the very basic definitions of qualified to hold a lifetime position in the federal judiciary.

Yeah it’s completely dishonest to claim this is a partisan attack. This one guy is only three years removed from Law School ffs.

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weave  Nov 13, 2017 • 10:58:00am

re: #270 HappyWarrior

Bragging about a 46% approval rating is stupid.

You should see the celebration happening over on the_donald subreddit

HIGH ENERGY!!!!!!! 🙄

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2017 • 10:58:15am

re: #273 JordanRules

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You could you know support his opponent especially given he has no plans to step down.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2017 • 10:58:27am

re: #276 weave

You should see the celebration happening over on the_donald subreddit

HIGH ENERGY!!!!!!! 🙄

I’ll pass.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 13, 2017 • 10:58:39am

re: #262 HappyWarrior

There’s an alternative as well - retire the franchise. Like this, I humbly suggest.

[Interior of M’s office. Bond enters room, M sitting at desk]

M: Good work on that last assignment, 007.

Bond: Thank you, Sir.

M: I know you’d probably like a bit of a rest and I quite understand that. However, there is one assignment I need you for. One of our operatives, a Station Chief, has gone missing, in Jamaica, of all places….rather peculiar, as not much really happens in Jamaica. We know he was cooperating with the CIA, at their request, on a case involving the disruption of rocket launches from Florida - some type of advanced signal jamming. From Strangways notes, he’d mentioned one chap in particular. Here’s a dossier; eyes only of course.

[M slides the dossier across his desk to Bond, who picks up and reads through the cover page]

Bond: Very well. So, any suggestions for how I should go about finding this Dr. Julius No that Strangways has mentioned?

[Cut to black, cue James Bond theme].

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 13, 2017 • 10:59:16am

People with Keurigs who don’t support pedophiles should film their own videos acting all pissed off at the “MSM/Deep State”, and a few minutes in as they are about to destroy theirs, break in with “Yeah. Right now, I’m going to destroy this thing. If I were a fucking idiot Sean Hannity supporter. But instead, I’m going to brew a nice hot cup because I don’t support pedophiles. Suckers.”.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 13, 2017 • 11:00:42am

Keurignacht!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2017 • 11:00:50am

re: #279 Dr Lizardo

There’s an alternative as well - retire the franchise. Like this, I humbly suggest.

[Interior of M’s office. Bond enters room, M sitting at desk]

M: Good work on that last assignment, 007.

Bond: Thank you, Sir.

M: I know you’d probably like a bit of a rest and I quite understand that. However, there is one assignment I need you for. One of our operatives a Station Chief, has gone missing, in Jamaica, of all places….rather peculiar, as not much really happens in Jamaica. We know he was cooperating with the CIA, at their request, on a case involving the disruption of rocket launches from Florida - some type of advance signal jamming. From Strangways notes, he’d mentioned one chap in particular. Here’s a dossier; eyes only of course.

[M slides the dossier across his desk to Bond, who picks up and reads through the cover page]

Bond: Very well. So, any suggestions for how I should go about finding this Dr. Julius No that Strangways has mentioned?

[Cut to black, cue James Bond theme].

Reminds me of how I’ve seen people suggest ending the Simpsons.

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scottslemmons  Nov 13, 2017 • 11:02:19am

re: #237 weave

[Embedded content]

I’m not reading this the same way the rest of you seem to be. He isn’t saying he’s buying Keurigs. I think he meant to say he’s buying some other brand to replace the Keurigs that people are smashing.

Certainly even Hannity isn’t THAT stupid.

ps, there is one big takeaway advertisers should learn from this. Never ever think about advertising on these shows TO START WITH. Because once you start, you can never leave. Just better to avoid the controversy to begin with.

Definitely a danger there for other coffee makers — if they crawl onto the Hannity/Moore bandwagon, they run the risk of becoming The Coffee Maker Preferred by Pedophiles.

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JordanRules  Nov 13, 2017 • 11:02:33am
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Dr Lizardo  Nov 13, 2017 • 11:04:42am

re: #284 JordanRules

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2017 • 11:05:52am

I can’t see Moore stepping down.

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JordanRules  Nov 13, 2017 • 11:06:02am

Are they really going to split the vote in AL????

Holy smokes.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2017 • 11:07:15am

re: #287 JordanRules

Are they really going to split the vote in AL????

Holy smokes.

Appears that way.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 13, 2017 • 11:08:21am

re: #286 HappyWarrior

I can’t see Moore stepping down.

He won’t. Hence, my #285.

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makeitstop  Nov 13, 2017 • 11:08:34am

Look up ‘self-ownage’ in the dictionary, and this will probably be the entry.

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Unshaken Defiance  Nov 13, 2017 • 11:09:59am

re: #202 Kragar

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 13, 2017 • 11:11:04am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2017 • 11:11:07am

re: #290 makeitstop

Look up ‘self-ownage’ in the dictionary, and this will probably be the entry.

[Embedded content]

Did they say anything critical about his wife? Go ahead and sue Roy. I’m sure the Post’s Attorney’s would love to get you under oath.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2017 • 11:11:47am

re: #291 Unshaken Defiance

[Embedded content]

Snap.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 13, 2017 • 11:17:30am

re: #284 JordanRules

Is Luther Strange actually an alternative for the GOP? Is there an organized write-in effort?

You know, funny thing about all of this, I assumed Moore was pretty much who he claimed himself to be—a straight arrow, purity Christianist wingnut. I assumed he was insane and completely malicious. But on the sex stuff I assumed he was pretty button-down, pure as the driven snow.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 13, 2017 • 11:18:21am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 13, 2017 • 11:19:17am
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Sir John Barron  Nov 13, 2017 • 11:19:34am

re: #295 Sir John Barron

Is Luther Strange actually an alternative for the GOP? Is there an organized write-in effort?

You know, funny thing about all of this, I assumed Moore was pretty much who he claimed himself to be—a straight arrow, purity Christianist wingnut. I assumed he was insane and completely malicious. But on the sex stuff I assumed he was pretty button-down, pure as the driven snow.

That is, before the recent revelations. Moore’s been in public life a long time and at least nationally I’d never heard any of the rumors that were apparently a poorly guarded secret in Alabama about his *tendencies*. Sounds like a lot of people knew or suspected as much, but that he had been allowed to slide.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 13, 2017 • 11:19:51am

re: #295 Sir John Barron

I assumed Moore was pretty much who he claimed himself to be—a straight arrow, purity Christianist wingnut.

The more pious they proclaim themselves to be, the more skeletons they have gathering dust in their closet.

As that famous degenerate lunatic (and fine actor) Klaus Kinski once said - “Never judge a man by his virtues, because virtues can be faked. Judge a man by his depravities, because those are sincere.”

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bratwurst  Nov 13, 2017 • 11:20:42am

He’s going to win.

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VegasGolfer  Nov 13, 2017 • 11:22:44am

re: #300 bratwurst

of course he is, it’s alabama

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makeitstop  Nov 13, 2017 • 11:22:47am

Mueller has another item to add to his to-do list…

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Sir John Barron  Nov 13, 2017 • 11:22:57am

re: #297 Backwoods_Sleuth

Cue the frothy wingnut outrage.

Speaking of which, something quite aggravating I’ve noticed driving south along Route 70 in Maryland, south of Frederick. All last year there was a Hillary for Prison sign along the highway, supported by a stationary vehicle of some kind.

Yesterday I was returning along that same route and the sign was Boycott the NFL, etc.

I’d guess the sign is on private property but I wonder if there are guidelines that normally would prevent this sort of messaging along side a state highway. Any ideas anyone?

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 13, 2017 • 11:23:16am

re: #300 bratwurst

If the national GOP really does go ahead and mount a last-ditch write-in campaign for Luther Strange, it could peel off enough of the GOP vote to let Jones win.

Moore hasn’t won yet. And I’m not so positive that he will.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 13, 2017 • 11:23:53am

re: #299 Dr Lizardo

The more pious they proclaim themselves to be, the more skeletons they have gathering dust in their closet.

As that famous degenerate lunatic (and fine actor) Klaus Kinski once said - “Never judge a man by his virtues, because virtues can be faked. Judge a man by his depravities, because those are sincere.”

Yeah, turns out Moore is a caricature of a caricature.

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makeitstop  Nov 13, 2017 • 11:28:23am

re: #304 Dr Lizardo

If the national GOP really does go ahead and mount a last-ditch write-in campaign for Luther Strange, it could peel off enough of the GOP vote to let Jones win.

Moore hasn’t won yet. And I’m not so positive that he will.

Me neither.

Collins, Turtle and Hatch have all gone on the record telling him to step down (plus two or three who called on him to step down over the weekend). Another victim is coming forth this afternoon. Someone who worked in his office said everybody new about his tendencies.

And I don’t think the anti-Moore contingent on social media is going to slow down, either. If anything, they’ll probably turn it up a notch or two.

If he’s hoping to ride this out, it’s going to be a long and bumpy ride, and who knows how many more women are going to come forth in the weeks before the election?

Sure, pastors have pull. But there may come a time when even they start to bail.

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scottslemmons  Nov 13, 2017 • 11:32:42am

re: #300 bratwurst

He’s going to win.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 13, 2017 • 11:34:56am

re: #218 BlueSpotinAL

Roy Moore vs Doug Jones signage update:
I had the chance to drive through Trump territory, saw one Jones sign,
no Roy Moore signs to be seen anywhere. Maybe I should have
gone by the middle school to find signs of Roy Moore.

I sent you a secret squirrel message.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 13, 2017 • 11:37:35am

re: #269 I cannot.

I say just have Idris walk into Miss Moneypenny’s office like he’s always been Bond.

That’s pretty much how every other Bond except Craig worked, right? I mean, in “Dr. No” we first see Bond in a casino at the baccarat table, with his position in MI6 already established. No origin story there.

I have appreciated the character investigation and development they’ve done in the Daniel Craig “Bond” series, but AFAIK they never did that with Connery, Lazenby, Moore, Dalton, or Brosnan.(Did I miss anybody?)

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 13, 2017 • 11:38:37am

re: #309 Blind Frog Belly White

Goddamit!

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retired cynic  Nov 13, 2017 • 8:04:11pm

re: #300 bratwurst

He’s going to win.

[Embedded content]

Why are his teeth green?

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retired cynic  Nov 13, 2017 • 8:05:52pm

re: #303 Sir John Barron

Cue the frothy wingnut outrage.

Speaking of which, something quite aggravating I’ve noticed driving south along Route 70 in Maryland, south of Frederick. All last year there was a Hillary for Prison sign along the highway, supported by a stationary vehicle of some kind.

Yesterday I was returning along that same route and the sign was Boycott the NFL, etc.

I’d guess the sign is on private property but I wonder if there are guidelines that normally would prevent this sort of messaging along side a state highway. Any ideas anyone?

A farmer near here, on an interstate, put up a huge vertical Trump sign. It’s still there. I gag driving by.


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