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Belafon  Nov 27, 2017 • 9:21:52pm

(I almost pushed post on the last thread, but clicked on New Comments, and found the new thread.)

Two technical things, and them I’m off to bed.
1. If you have good programming skills and decent math background, and want to learn about neural nets and machine learning, this website is a great place to start: neuralnetworksanddeeplearning.com.

2. If you want to build your own Google Home Mini or Amazon Echo Dot type assistant, here’s an ebook about it: springer.com. All this information is scattered over the web if you’re inclined to go look for it. I’ve noticed with my Google Home is that there are some gaps between what I ask for and what it can respond with. You could decide to solve the gaps with yours. You might also be able to change the default person from nice to sarcastic.

(Yep, sharing random geek knowledge.)

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The Major  Nov 27, 2017 • 9:26:34pm

re: #1 Belafon

Both bookmarked. Just what I need - two more rabbit holes…. (grin)

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Belafon  Nov 27, 2017 • 9:26:52pm

Ok, one more thing. Talk about regional differences meaning different things with respect to taxes:

The problem for the Connecticut hedge-fund set — and, more broadly, for a lot of the Wall Street crowd — is that Republican proposals in both the House and Senate would drive up taxes for many high-earners in the New York City area. By eliminating the deduction for most state and local taxes, an individual making a yearly salary of $1,000,000 — a figure not uncommon in the financial industry — would owe the Internal Revenue Service an additional $21,000, according to a preliminary analysis by accounting firm Marcum LLP…

h/t Balloon Juice

Here in Dallas, $1M/yr puts you way way up the income ladder.

Edit: And by way up, I mean buying a legislator or a seat up. I’m not saying that’s poor in NY, but you would definitely get a tax decrease here in Texas.

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retired cynic  Nov 27, 2017 • 9:34:35pm

re: #3 Belafon

Ok, one more thing. Talk about regional differences meaning different things with respect to taxes:

h/t Balloon Juice

Here in Dallas, $1M/yr puts you way way up the income ladder.

Around here, you would own the county.

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makeitstop  Nov 27, 2017 • 9:36:57pm

I’m not sure if I’m watching a rerun, but Haberman was on with Anderson Cooper and now says a third White House aide has said Trump told him or her that the Access Hollywood tape isn’t real, and that he wants to hire people to prove its authenticity or lack thereof.

Charles postulated the other day that Trump is trying to gaslight America. I’m starting to think that Trump is trying to gaslight himself. The demented old bastard is erasing his own negative history in his own head.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 27, 2017 • 9:37:15pm

A re-post if you don’t mind:
The thing distressing me though ain’t the GOP establishment or really truly Trump in himself though he of course does deserve blame is this rise of sympathy and even support for the Nazis. I mean the CSA crap? Bad enough says this second great grandson of an Army of the Potomac vet but actual Nazi fanboys and girls? I don’t remember my great uncle who was a WWII vet well but i definitely always looked up to the fact that he was a WWII vet. I still remember when I had clue what D-Day even really was being in awe of a classmate’s grandfather who spoke to us about D-Day one year or the opening scene of Saving Private Ryan. I played WWII video games. I read Stephen Ambrose. I admired Easy Company and I asked myself if I would have the courage of a Richard Winters or Wild Bill Guarnere. I’m German-American. In fact, my dad’s grandfather was born in Germany and my last name is German. But never ever have I seen myself wondering if the Nazis were the good guys. WWI is a bit more complex in some ways but the Nazis? Nope.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 27, 2017 • 9:38:25pm

re: #5 makeitstop

I’m not sure if I’m watching a rerun, but Haberman was on with Anderson Cooper and now says a third White House aide has said Trump told him or her that the Access Hollywood tape isn’t real, and that he wants to hire people to prove its authenticity or lack thereof.

Charles postulated the other day that Trump is trying to gaslight America. I’m starting to think that Trump is trying to gaslight himself. The demented old bastard is erasing his own negative history in his own head.

This is just so crazy. He admitted to it when it came out. He tried to dismiss it with that locker talk bullshit. Hey Turmpers who love his “straight talking”, here’s your man, a pathetic liar.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 27, 2017 • 9:38:26pm

re: #3 Belafon

Ok, one more thing. Talk about regional differences meaning different things with respect to taxes:

h/t Balloon Juice

Here in Dallas, $1M/yr puts you way way up the income ladder.

Edit: And by way up, I mean buying a legislator or a seat up. I’m not saying that’s poor in NY, but you would definitely get a tax decrease here in Texas.

Here with a million dollars you could just about buy my whole village. Internet service extra.

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retired cynic  Nov 27, 2017 • 9:46:51pm

re: #8 Anymouse 🌹

Here with a million dollars you could just about buy my whole village. Internet service extra.

They’re talking about a million a year. That would stretch a far ways here.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 27, 2017 • 10:01:44pm

This blogger’s conspiracy theory web charts make Sean Hannity and Louie Gohmert look sane by comparison.

The Manufactured Invention of the Beatles, Rolling Stones, Grateful Dead, and the Birth of Rock-n-Roll by the Tavistock Institute, a Jesuit Corporation (goes to the blog Toward a Better Understanding).

Take hip waders for extremely deep derp.

And of course, behind this “Jesuit organisation” (actually a not-for-profit social science organisation), is Teh Joooos! (more at the link, if you dare)

It was called the “British Invasion” . The 60’s began a time of “question authority”, grow your hair long, hippies and flower power and morphed in with the Anti War gang of “hell no we won’t go!”

All by design, all by planning to mind control and manipulate what the Baby Boomer (Doomer) generation thought, the language and slang used and the behavior control of the masses.

Yes, it is interesting to note that the Tavistock Institute of Human Relation, as well as, it’s child organization: The Stanford Research Institute, developed The Grateful Dead, among other things.
You can see that Alan Trist, a social engineer for the Tavistock Institute, became the shadow manager of the Dead. His father, Eric Trist, was one of the principle founding members of Tavistock.

It was part of the development of a dynamic psychological warfare model to be used on foreign and domestic populations, modeled, ultimately, on the Lord Gordon Riots in London and the Jacobin Terror of the French Revolution. The purpose was to mobilize mobs in ideological opposition to the state, as a mass destabilization operation.

Rebellion against society, let your hair grow…turn on, tune out, as millions of tabs of LSD appeared into the hippie scene from CIA laboratories and promotion provided by Harvard CIA asset, Timothy Leary and distribution aided by the likes of the Grateful Dead.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 27, 2017 • 10:07:06pm

Dim Jim makes a prediction:

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HappyWarrior  Nov 27, 2017 • 10:09:23pm

re: #11 wheat-dogg

Dim Jim makes a prediction:

I’d be shocked if it was Linda. DJ is just being stupid or baiting his idiotic readers because Linda used the J word. Honestly I don’t know who it will be.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 27, 2017 • 10:12:48pm

re: #12 HappyWarrior

I’d be shocked if it was Linda. DJ is just being stupid or baiting his idiotic readers because Linda used the J word. Honestly I don’t know who it will be.

I’m holding out for Carmen Yulin Cruz (who is on the ballot).

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HappyWarrior  Nov 27, 2017 • 10:14:17pm

re: #13 Anymouse 🌹

I’m holding out for Carmen Yulin Cruz (who is on the ballot).

She’d be a worthy pick imo. Honestly, I’ll throw Putin out there as a name. Time’s person of the year doesn’t have to be a good person or accomplishing positive things.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 27, 2017 • 10:14:40pm

re: #12 HappyWarrior

I’d be shocked if it was Linda. DJ is just being stupid or baiting his idiotic readers because Linda used the J word. Honestly I don’t know who it will be.

His followers likely only know about Linda from Hoft, because she doesn’t come up in conversation too often, IMO.

Wait for the Wingnuttisphere to pick up this story and run with it, complete with calls to boycott Time-Life.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 27, 2017 • 10:20:54pm

re: #15 wheat-dogg

His followers likely only know about Linda from Hoft, because she doesn’t come up in conversation too often, IMO.

Wait for the Wingnuttisphere to pick up this story and run with it, complete with calls to boycott Time-Life.

Yeah she’s pretty obscure. Hoft is a dummy but he knows how to bait the morons who read him. And he did it simply by saying jihad.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 27, 2017 • 10:23:35pm

re: #11 wheat-dogg

Dim Jim makes a prediction:

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Now I wonder how SMOTI will be able to spread his lies when Net Neutrality ends. Guess he will have to go back to his mimeograph machine…

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teleskiguy  Nov 27, 2017 • 10:24:48pm

Time’s “Person of the Year” you ask? I predict it will be none other than…

Frank Stallone.

That’s as good a guess as Dim Jim’s.

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DodgerFan1988  Nov 27, 2017 • 10:26:44pm

Now the Alt-Right are attacking Prince Harry because of his engagement to a biracial women. But remember they’re not racist.

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petesh  Nov 27, 2017 • 10:27:46pm

re: #5 makeitstop

I’m not sure if I’m watching a rerun, but Haberman was on with Anderson Cooper and now says a third White House aide has said Trump told him or her that the Access Hollywood tape isn’t real, and that he wants to hire people to prove its authenticity or lack thereof.

Charles postulated the other day that Trump is trying to gaslight America. I’m starting to think that Trump is trying to gaslight himself. The demented old bastard is erasing his own negative history in his own head.

I think that’s probably true. He’s always been an asshole, he’s always been greedy, but he used to be a fluent salesman. When he was shooting the shit with Howard Stern, he was capable of complete sentences. Nowadays, it’s gibberish. He can do a set-piece, a speech that links together, in a slightly different order, whole pages that he’s done so often he can memorize them; even then he goes off the rails sometimes, and if you try to parse his off-the-cuff responses, well, you can’t. You can usually piece together some kind of meaning, but it’s scattershot. And it would not surprise me at all if he has selectively edited his memory already. He’s got to go, and I think everyone in DC knows it.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 27, 2017 • 10:27:52pm

re: #17 Joe Bacon 🌹

Now I wonder how SMOTI will be able to spread his lies when Net Neutrality ends. Guess he will have to go back to his mimeograph machine…

I find it so funny that a lot of wingnut bloggers are pushing anti NN crap. Saw that Shapiro is since my wingnut friend always posts his shill bullshit masquerading as intelligent dialogue.

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teleskiguy  Nov 27, 2017 • 10:30:09pm

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HappyWarrior  Nov 27, 2017 • 10:31:43pm

re: #19 DodgerFan1988

Now the Alt-Right are attacking Prince Harry because of his engagement to a biracial women. But remember they’re not racist.

I hate those bigots so much. Anyhow happy for Harry. The royal family is silly to me but Liz, Will, & Harry seem like stand up people. And honestly she’s beautiful. Very striking eyes but all that matters is she and Harry are happy and I’m sure they’ll have lovely kids if they go that route. Far improvement from his grand uncle marrying a Nazi sympathizer.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 27, 2017 • 10:33:14pm

re: #20 petesh

I think that’s probably true. He’s always been an asshole, he’s always been greedy, but he used to be a fluent salesman. When he was shooting the shit with Howard Stern, he was capable of complete sentences. Nowadays, it’s gibberish. He can do a set-piece, a speech that links together, in a slightly different order, whole pages that he’s done so often he can memorize them; even then he goes off the rails sometimes, and if you try to parse his off-the-cuff responses, well, you can’t. You can usually piece together some kind of meaning, but it’s scattershot. And it would not surprise me at all if he has selectively edited his memory already. He’s got to go, and I think everyone in DC knows it.

Denentia does run in his family and as much as I hate distant diagnosis a lot of people have said he acts like he has it.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 27, 2017 • 10:36:37pm

re: #19 DodgerFan1988

Crazy stupid thing is that old saw about Harry looking like some guy not Charles. Sure, maybe when he was younger, but look at that face now! He’s all Mountbatten.

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petesh  Nov 27, 2017 • 10:38:46pm

re: #24 HappyWarrior

Denentia does run in his family and as much as I hate distant diagnosis a lot of people have said he acts like he has it.

He may also be facing a crisis of self-confidence, as part of him is aware enough to understand that he cannot do the job, probably never could. He’s always been able to bluster his way through, and he can’t, and that he can’t is likely making it even harder for him. Sheesh, I sound like I’m sympathetic. Aside from his being a misogynistic, sociopathic, racist, cruel and selfish greedhead, gee, maybe I am sorry for the husk of a man. Just sometimes, when I feeling saintly.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 27, 2017 • 10:39:26pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 27, 2017 • 10:39:52pm

re: #26 petesh

He may also be facing a crisis of self-confidence, as part of him is aware enough to understand that he cannot do the job, probably never could. He’s always been able to bluster his way through, and he can’t, and that he can’t is likely making it even harder for him. Sheesh, I sound like I’m sympathetic. Aside from his being a sociopathic, racist, cruel and selfish greedhead, gee, maybe I am sorry for the husk of a man. Just sometimes, when I feeling saintly.

Could be too. I just hate we’re in this mess because he was delusional enough to think he ought to be President.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 27, 2017 • 10:40:13pm

NY Times Nazi guy apparently did not reveal his real name.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 27, 2017 • 10:43:11pm

re: #25 Blind Frog Belly White

Crazy stupid thing is that old saw about Harry looking like some guy not Charles. Sure, maybe when he was younger, but look at that face now! He’s all Mountbatten.

The whole polluting the royal blood line thing is funny too. Who knows how many bumps there are. Anyhow proves me right, racial superiority is stupid and I’m glad I’m a mutt and my niece especially has her own unique background because she can appreciate many different cultures and how they’re why she is who she is.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 27, 2017 • 10:43:30pm

re: #29 wheat-dogg

NY Times Nazi guy apparently did not reveal his real name.

What a cuck.//

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 27, 2017 • 10:48:18pm
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Teukka  Nov 27, 2017 • 10:49:24pm

re: #31 HappyWarrior

What a cuck.//

FTFY

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HappyWarrior  Nov 27, 2017 • 10:53:44pm

re: #33 Teukka

FTFY

Aha. Seriously tho. I hate that so many of these Nazi fans are my age. I just want to know how the hell someone who likely had a grandfather or in my case grand uncle who fought in WWII think the Nazis were the good guys.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 27, 2017 • 11:10:41pm

re: #34 HappyWarrior

Aha. Seriously tho. I hate that so many of these Nazi fans are my age. I just want to know how the hell someone who likely had a grandfather or in my case grand uncle who fought in WWII think the Nazis were the good guys.

It’s a simple philosophy (horrible, but simple). It doesn’t require much thinking, just following along with the leaders of the group.

Nazism in the Thirties was very much a cult, and it is today. They see a strong personality, and the followers attach themselves to that.

The Southern Poverty Law Center took down the National Alliance by exposing the hypocrisy of its leaders to other followers of the movement.These guys today are not nearly as powerful or wealthy as the National Alliance was in the Seventies and Eighties (it is the founder’s racist book which inspired Timothy McVeigh).

Catch the leaders out the way the National Alliance was, and their “movement” gets flushed.

splcenter.org (link to the SPLC article on the National Alliance)

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cat-tikvah  Nov 27, 2017 • 11:16:58pm

re: #34 HappyWarrior

This seems an appropriate song, from Billy Bragg. “The Few”
At night the Baby Brotherhood and the Inter City Crew
Fill their pockets up with calling cards
And paint their faces red white and blue
They go out seeking different coloured faces
And anyone else that they can scare
And they salute the foes their fathers fought
By raising their right arms in the air
Oh look out my country’s patriots, they’re hunting down below
What do they know of England who only England know

Billy Bragg : The Few

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majii  Nov 27, 2017 • 11:21:45pm

re: #28 HappyWarrior

“Could be too. I just hate we’re in this mess because he was delusional enough to think he ought to be President.”

He wasn’t the only one who thought being POTUS was easy, or that if a guy who identified himself as black could do it, Trump could do it with both hands tied behind his back. For Trump, the reality of the job has to be a check on reality. He and his supporters seem to have thought that being a U.S. POTUS is similar to being king of the world. It’s not. I will not permit my “conservative” Facebook “friends” to forget that they voted for this loser. I suspect they already know he’s a loser but won’t abandon him because: A. He’s their loser, and B. To admit he’s a loser would mean they made a mistake when they voted for him. I’ve stopped posting some info about Trump and the Russia investigation because when the sh*t hits the fan, and I hope it does, I want them to be gobsmacked, demoralized, and disillusioned.

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majii  Nov 27, 2017 • 11:28:15pm

re: #30 HappyWarrior

“The whole polluting the royal blood line thing is funny too. Who knows how many bumps there are. Anyhow proves me right, racial superiority is stupid and I’m glad I’m a mutt and my niece especially has her own unique background because she can appreciate many different cultures and how they’re why she is who she is.”

I know you’re into genealogy, so you’ll probably remember a report that was published a few years back that mentioned that #44 is a successor to the British throne via his mom. This indicates to me that those who are attacking Prince Harry’s decision to marry Meghan Markle don’t know that they’re probably not 100% Caucasian. I thought Craig Cobb was going to stroke out on the Tricia Show when it was revealed that he’s 14% black.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 27, 2017 • 11:35:48pm

re: #38 majii

“The whole polluting the royal blood line thing is funny too. Who knows how many bumps there are. Anyhow proves me right, racial superiority is stupid and I’m glad I’m a mutt and my niece especially has her own unique background because she can appreciate many different cultures and how they’re why she is who she is.”

I know you’re into genealogy, so you’ll probably remember a report that was published a few years back that mentioned that #44 is a successor to the British throne via his mom. This indicates to me that those who are attacking Prince Harry’s decision to marry Meghan Markle don’t know that they’re probably not 100% Caucasian. I thought Craig Cobb was going to stroke out on the Tricia Show when it was revealed that he’s 14% black.

The Mulungeons of the American Southeast tried to explain away their dark skin, eyes and hair as remnants of Portuguese or Moorish descent. Turns out genetic evidence points to African ancestry. Whoops!

On a somewhat related note, my former FIL, who hailed from Arkansas, also had olive skin and dark hair. I’ve never delved into his family history deep enough to be able to uncover any African connections, but I would not be surprised if I did.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 27, 2017 • 11:38:03pm

re: #38 majii

“The whole polluting the royal blood line thing is funny too. Who knows how many bumps there are. Anyhow proves me right, racial superiority is stupid and I’m glad I’m a mutt and my niece especially has her own unique background because she can appreciate many different cultures and how they’re why she is who she is.”

I know you’re into genealogy, so you’ll probably remember a report that was published a few years back that mentioned that #44 is a successor to the British throne via his mom. This indicates to me that those who are attacking Prince Harry’s decision to marry Meghan Markle don’t know that they’re probably not 100% Caucasian. I thought Craig Cobb was going to stroke out on the Tricia Show when it was revealed that he’s 14% black.

Daily Beast wrote about it some time ago, with a rather convoluted reasoning.
thedailybeast.com

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teleskiguy  Nov 27, 2017 • 11:39:12pm

I have more followers than this guy. Look at those numbers! It’s a small-level tweeters dream come true.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 27, 2017 • 11:44:25pm

Remember folks…that Windsor bloodline used to be so “pure” through intermarriage that it developed a distinct variety of congenital hemophilia, and George V, Kaiser Wilhelm, and Nicolas II could have done a European royalty version of The Parent Trap.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 28, 2017 • 12:19:33am

re: #29 wheat-dogg

NY Times Nazi guy apparently did not reveal his real name.

I assume his real name was Schickelgruber…

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teleskiguy  Nov 28, 2017 • 12:20:59am
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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 28, 2017 • 12:26:24am

re: #41 teleskiguy

I have more followers than this guy. Look at those numbers! It’s a small-level tweeters dream come true.

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I see that person got a lot of likes and retweets, but I don’t quite understand how Twitter works for small fry. I guess this translates in exposure bux for that tweeter, partucluarly if he or she is good at such short smackdowns?

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teleskiguy  Nov 28, 2017 • 12:37:31am
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teleskiguy  Nov 28, 2017 • 12:45:17am

re: #46 teleskiguy

Trevor Noah suggests that everyone tweet to Fuckface Von Clownstick and tell him Barack Obama’s taxes will go down, and that will make him be a socialist.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Nov 28, 2017 • 1:18:48am

‘Castrating God’: Conservative Christians melt down after Church of Sweden says God not male

While the change won’t take place until May of 2017 for the church’s 6.1 million baptized members, it was immediately attacked in the U.S. by non-members who took great offense on behalf of God.

There is a lengthy list of outraged fundanuts. Among the lowlights, Alex Jones blames Muslim expansionism in Scandinavia, while most of the nuts blame feminism.

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 28, 2017 • 1:22:57am

re: #48 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 28, 2017 • 1:26:13am

re: #23 HappyWarrior

Liz? That’s Queen Elizabeth, to you! Lol!

Haters gonna hate. I’m sure Meghan and Harry will ignore them and focus on being happy.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 28, 2017 • 1:32:37am

re: #49 Ace-o-aces

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Your tweet is lol. Everything always traces back to Sharia for these paranoid idiots.

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teleskiguy  Nov 28, 2017 • 1:59:21am

These magnificent little creatures should not be named after one of the seven deadly sins.

Photo credit: Sam Trull (@Primatography)
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goddamnedfrank  Nov 28, 2017 • 2:00:53am
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teleskiguy  Nov 28, 2017 • 2:04:00am

This guy probably knows Roy Moore on a personal basis. Just a hunch.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 28, 2017 • 2:26:24am

re: #48 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

“Cultural marxism” - aren’t those the code words for “the jooooz”?

So Sweden is under attack by both the Muslims and the Jews? I’ll believe it when there are no longer any pork products at smorgasbords.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 28, 2017 • 2:27:22am

I’m off to bed. I had a very long circular drive around the Panhandle today, and had a personal med adjustment so I’m really sleepy. Catch y’all later.

Keep the country free (or at least the toll low) for me whilst I sleep.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 28, 2017 • 2:32:01am

usmagazine.com

Billy Bush Hospitalised after Being Hit in the Head by a Golf Ball.

There’s got to be a connexion there somewhere… .

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 28, 2017 • 2:33:31am

Rock and roll ain’t dead yet.

Starcrawler - I Love LA

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 28, 2017 • 3:01:40am

Somebody posted here about those people who fail to understand what a concept is about, be it patriotism, religion, masculinity, etc. They are the ones who cling the most to the arbitrary and subjective symbols and ritual displays we have come to associate to these concepts: flags, crucifixes, guns, etc., without considering where those associations arose and why.

And the debate over Sweden about the pronoun and/or the symbol we use to refer to an abstract concept like God really highlights that.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 28, 2017 • 3:20:54am

re: #59 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Somebody posted here about those people who fail to understand what a concept is about, be it patriotism, religion, masculinity, etc. They are the ones who cling the most to the arbitrary and subjective symbols and ritual displays we have come to associate to these concepts: flags, crucifixes, guns, etc., without considering where those associations arose and why.

And the debate over Sweden about the pronoun and/or the symbol we use to refer to an abstract concept like God really highlights that.

It’s the dichotomy between abstract thinkers and concrete thinkers. A fair number of adults never made the transition from concrete to abstract when they were teenagers. So, honoring an object takes precedence over honoring what the object represents. See also, reification.

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Shropshire Slasher  Nov 28, 2017 • 3:56:25am

Gil Scott Heron - The Revolution Will Not Be Televised

The revolution will not be brought to you by Xerox
In 4 parts without commercial interruption
The revolution will not show you pictures of Nixon
Blowing a bugle and leading a charge by John Mitchell
General Abrams and Spiro Agnew to eat
Hog maws confiscated from a Harlem sanctuary
The revolution will not be televised
The revolution will be brought to you by the Schaefer Award Theatre and
will not star Natalie Wood and Steve McQueen or Bullwinkle and Julia
The revolution will not give your mouth sex appeal
The revolution will not get rid of the nubs
The revolution will not make you look five pounds
Thinner, because The revolution will not be televised, Brother
There will be no pictures of you and Willie Mays
Pushing that cart down the block on the dead run
Or trying to slide that color television into a stolen ambulance
NBC will not predict the winner at 8:32or the count from 29 districts
The revolution will not be televised
There will be no pictures of pigs shooting down
Brothers in the instant replay
There will be no pictures of young being
Run out of Harlem on a rail with a brand new process
There will be no slow motion or still life of
Roy Wilkens strolling through Watts in a red, black and
Green liberation jumpsuit that he had been saving
For just the right occasion
Green Acres, The Beverly Hillbillies, and
Hooterville Junction will no longer be so damned relevant
and Women will not care if Dick finally gets down with
Jane on Search for Tomorrow because Black people
will be in the street looking for a brighter day
The revolution will not be televised

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Decatur Deb  Nov 28, 2017 • 4:00:28am

re: #61 Shropshire Slasher

Was wondering if LGF was ready for that.
(“Young” should be capitalized.)

LGF After Dark.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 28, 2017 • 4:07:38am

re: #60 wheat-dogg

It’s the dichotomy between abstract thinkers and concrete thinkers. A fair number of adults never made the transition from concrete to abstract when they were teenagers. So, honoring an object takes precedence over honoring what the object represents. See also, reification.

It is also about not understanding enough about their own history and culture to see how and where certain symbols arose and came to be associated with abstract concepts.

There are plenty of religions that see a female aspect to God, but not our Abrahamic religions that arose in a patriarchal nomadic and early agrarian society.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 28, 2017 • 4:29:35am

re: #63 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It is also about not understanding enough about their own history and culture to see how and where certain symbols arose and came to be associated with abstract concepts.

There are plenty of religions that see a female aspect to God, but not our Abrahamic religions that arose in a patriarchal nomadic and early agrarian society.

The original followers of Yahweh in fact tried to eliminate all the goddess-worshipers. You’ll find references to Asherah in the OT, because she was the consort of El *and* Yahweh, and the Yahwists were trying very hard to merge El and Yahweh into one god and eliminate Asherah altogether.

Then Mary came around, and the Christians had a new “goddess” to worship (though they would not put it that way, of course).

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 28, 2017 • 4:43:37am

re: #64 wheat-dogg

You’ll find references to Asherah in the OT, because she was the consort of El and Yahweh

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wheat-dogg  Nov 28, 2017 • 4:45:25am

re: #65 Dr Lizardo

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Those gods and goddesses had some wild parties back then.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 28, 2017 • 4:56:19am

re: #66 wheat-dogg

Sounds like a great big old celestial swingers party!

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Dr. Matt  Nov 28, 2017 • 4:58:38am

What happened?

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 28, 2017 • 5:00:54am

re: #68 Dr. Matt

Maybe not so much what happened, but what’s going to happen?

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dangerman  Nov 28, 2017 • 5:04:04am

re: #19 DodgerFan1988

Now the Alt-Right are attacking Prince Harry because of his engagement to a biracial women. But remember they’re not racist.

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what a nice bunch of folks //

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dangerman  Nov 28, 2017 • 5:08:59am

re: #29 wheat-dogg

NY Times Nazi guy apparently did not reveal his real name.

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compare the nyt diligence in this story to the wapo’s re PV

the times kicked an own goal - the entire story was their choice and they had all the time in the world

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makeitstop  Nov 28, 2017 • 5:15:15am
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darthstar  Nov 28, 2017 • 5:20:29am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2017 • 5:23:45am

re: #42 The Ghost of a Flea

Remember folks…that Windsor bloodline used to be so “pure” through intermarriage that it developed a distinct variety of congenital hemophilia, and George V, Kaiser Wilhelm, and Nicolas II could have done a European royalty version of The Parent Trap.

Especially Nicky and Georgie. Ever see that photo of them wearing their opposite country uniforms?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2017 • 5:31:42am

re: #38 majii

“The whole polluting the royal blood line thing is funny too. Who knows how many bumps there are. Anyhow proves me right, racial superiority is stupid and I’m glad I’m a mutt and my niece especially has her own unique background because she can appreciate many different cultures and how they’re why she is who she is.”

I know you’re into genealogy, so you’ll probably remember a report that was published a few years back that mentioned that #44 is a successor to the British throne via his mom. This indicates to me that those who are attacking Prince Harry’s decision to marry Meghan Markle don’t know that they’re probably not 100% Caucasian. I thought Craig Cobb was going to stroke out on the Tricia Show when it was revealed that he’s 14% black.

I thought that was hilarious. My theory is the longer a white Family has been in this country especially the South and other areas that had large amounts of black people, the more likely one is to have African ancestry and or Native American too. Racial superiority is just so stupid. My genealogical research not only has reenforced my anti-racism, it’s streghened it.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Nov 28, 2017 • 5:35:24am

Good morning Lizards:

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 28, 2017 • 5:35:56am

re: #74 HappyWarrior

Especially Nicky and Georgie. Ever see that photo of them wearing their opposite country uniforms?

Nikita Krushchev once commented that on his first trip to the UK, he saw a painting of George V somewhere and he initially thought it was a portrait of Nicholas II - he later noted that he was genuinely stunned by the uncanny resemblance between the two men.

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jeffreyw  Nov 28, 2017 • 5:36:32am

Imgur


Good morning!

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Citizen K  Nov 28, 2017 • 5:37:30am

re: #6 HappyWarrior

A re-post if you don’t mind:
The thing distressing me though ain’t the GOP establishment or really truly Trump in himself though he of course does deserve blame is this rise of sympathy and even support for the Nazis. I mean the CSA crap? Bad enough says this second great grandson of an Army of the Potomac vet but actual Nazi fanboys and girls? I don’t remember my great uncle who was a WWII vet well but i definitely always looked up to the fact that he was a WWII vet. I still remember when I had clue what D-Day even really was being in awe of a classmate’s grandfather who spoke to us about D-Day one year or the opening scene of Saving Private Ryan. I played WWII video games. I read Stephen Ambrose. I admired Easy Company and I asked myself if I would have the courage of a Richard Winters or Wild Bill Guarnere. I’m German-American. In fact, my dad’s grandfather was born in Germany and my last name is German. But never ever have I seen myself wondering if the Nazis were the good guys. WWI is a bit more complex in some ways but the Nazis? Nope.

I’ve said it before, but I never thought I’d see the day that people started to white knight actual avowed Nazis.

It hits me even moreso after finally playing Wolfenstein: The New Order, and seeing the backlash against its sequel because it was apparently too unfair to Nazis.

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Shropshire Slasher  Nov 28, 2017 • 5:42:47am

Norman Reedus yarns a tale of strange gifts and zombie chomping fans, and squirrel meat.

pagesix.com

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2017 • 5:44:52am

re: #77 Dr Lizardo

Nikita Krushchev once commented that on his first trip to the UK, he saw a painting of George V somewhere and he initially thought it was a portrait of Nicholas II - he later noted that he was genuinely stunned by the uncanny resemblance between the two men.

I can’t say I blame him. It was.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 28, 2017 • 5:45:27am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2017 • 5:46:00am

re: #79 Citizen K

I’ve said it before, but I never thought I’d see the day that people started to white knight actual avowed Nazis.

It hits me even moreso after finally playing Wolfenstein: The New Order, and seeing the backlash against its sequel because it was apparently too unfair to Nazis.

I’m just stunned that’s where we are. I’ve visited WWII sites before too including the camps.

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nowherenorth2  Nov 28, 2017 • 5:46:53am

So CNN has an “analysis” of tax reform platform and that trumps attention may derail it.
Not the fact that it is a tax relief foe the rich, a burden foe the poor and middle class, and a way for the rich to get richer while pulling the poor down farther into the cavern of despair and poverty.
But the reason it will fail is…trump and his ADD.

CNN, both sides and free publicity.

cnn.com

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nowherenorth2  Nov 28, 2017 • 5:51:38am

re: #79 Citizen K

I played wolfenstein the new order for a great game, and I got it
I played wolfenstein2 for a great game,and to kick Nazi ass. And I love it.
An acquaintance told me that wolfenstein was biased against Nazis. Lets say that was a fun and loud discussion

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 28, 2017 • 5:58:36am

re: #85 nowherenorth2

I played wolfenstein the new order for a great game, and I got it
I played wolfenstein2 for a great game,and to kick Nazi ass. And I love it.
An acquaintance told me that wolfenstein was biased against Nazis. Lets say that was a fun and loud discussion

how and why coud there be anything wrong with being biased against nazis? that is one of the wonders of modern political discourse…

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bill d. (b.d.)  Nov 28, 2017 • 6:00:22am

I wonder how stupid the world can get today?

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nowherenorth2  Nov 28, 2017 • 6:02:48am

re: #86 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Amazing discourse, of course, amazing.

His argument is the lame well the Nazis did good things as well argument, much like the civil war is about states rights now. One of those fun historical twists that people like to give to make their argument

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nowherenorth2  Nov 28, 2017 • 6:03:16am

re: #87 bill d. (b.d.)

It is a new day. The bar is reset but lower heh.

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Citizen K  Nov 28, 2017 • 6:03:58am

re: #85 nowherenorth2

I played wolfenstein the new order for a great game, and I got it
I played wolfenstein2 for a great game,and to kick Nazi ass. And I love it.
An acquaintance told me that wolfenstein was biased against Nazis. Lets say that was a fun and loud discussion

That this is a sentiment that exists is peak 2017.

re: #88 nowherenorth2

Amazing discourse, of course, amazing.

His argument is the lame well the Nazis did good things as well argument, much like the civil war is about states rights now. One of those fun historical twists that people like to give to make their argument

Hitler was a vegetarian. This doesn’t mean we demonize vegetarians, but it also doesn’t mean we praise Hitler for promoting health consciousness. It’s like…christ.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2017 • 6:05:19am

re: #88 nowherenorth2

Amazing discourse, of course, amazing.

His argument is the lame well the Nazis did good things as well argument, much like the civil war is about states rights now. One of those fun historical twists that people like to give to make their argument

I hope this person has a WWII vet family member to slap them into reality. I can’t help but to wonder if we’re tgere because of us losing our direct connection to men and women who remember Nazism.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2017 • 6:06:52am

See my rant in 6 though. It just amazes me that this is where we are.

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William Lewis  Nov 28, 2017 • 6:07:48am

re: #58 Dr Lizardo

Rock and roll ain’t dead yet.

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Not bad at all. I like to dig these guys out when I’m in the Rock’s not Dead Yet mood:

Muncie Girls - Railroad

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Citizen K  Nov 28, 2017 • 6:08:22am

re: #91 HappyWarrior

I hope this person has a WWII vet family member to slap them into reality. I can’t help but to wonder if we’re tgere because of us losing our direct connection to men and women who remember Nazism.

I think it’s more that Nazis have since been replaced as the ‘other’ that America must stand against, with several degrees of separation, and America is just now remembering that it liked Nazis before they became ‘the enemy’.

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nowherenorth2  Nov 28, 2017 • 6:08:58am

I know I am posting A lot this morning. My mind is racing. I am waiting to see my doctor. I am still following up on my stroke and my viral issues from 6 months ago.

I am asking for a second opinion on my blood work because the hematologist I have now I do not trust (she feared I had cancer, so bone marrow biopsy. The blood work she received the day before stated…mononucleosis. That is why I was tired)
Also I am finally getting explanations for a lot of information 6 months aftwr the fact.

I was asked by a cardiologist (one of the things was heart failure, which I just learned because I was told enlarge heart due to infection) what was wrong and I told her: UVM gets a paper in a medical journal, this hospital and UVM gets my money, I am still learning things about what happened while getting no answers and it is stuff that medical knew for a while.

Honestly….I am having a hard time coping with this.

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nowherenorth2  Nov 28, 2017 • 6:11:06am

re: #94 Citizen K

Worst part. Dude is so pro trump. I live in st. Lawrence county. Poorest county in new York. Largest land mass. It is a red county in a blue state. Too many areof the same mindset of the acquaintance.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 28, 2017 • 6:11:44am

Not everything the Nazis did was evil = Nazis were not evil

Slavery was not the sole cause of the Civil war = Slavery had nothing to do with it

alt-right historical context

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2017 • 6:12:31am

re: #94 Citizen K

I think it’s more that Nazis have since been replaced as the ‘other’ that America must stand against, with several degrees of separation, and America is just now remembering that it liked Nazis before they became ‘the enemy’.

Did we though? I mean in the Cold War, granted I was very young, we still grew up with the Nazis as villain narrative and honestly I don’t think we with some exceptions ever liked the Nazis before 12/7/41. While most Americans were isolationist prior to Pearl Harbor, most Americans still did sympathize with the Allies. I just feel sick thinking about it. My mom and Dad both had uncles who fought the Nazis as Moms Dad was too young and Dad’s Dad was turned down due to some injuries and having a family.

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nowherenorth2  Nov 28, 2017 • 6:13:36am

re: #97 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

On point there.
There is a disconnect between these people and history. When you try to talk about history to them their answer is “past is the past, leave it”
But they are free to dredg it up if need be for their own causes, and remembering points of history with rose colored glasses that help to color and reinforce their world view

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Citizen K  Nov 28, 2017 • 6:13:55am

re: #97 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Not everything the Nazis did was evil = Nazis were not evil

Slavery was not the sole cause of the Civil war = Slavery had nothing to do with it

alt right historical context

Meanwhile:

Black guy does something criminal = All blacks are inherently criminal

One Muslim does a terrorist attack = All Muslims are secret terrorists.

One Dem does something bad = All Dems are godless anti-American enemies.

One Woman lies about an assault = All women are liars and ‘rape culture’ is a hoax

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2017 • 6:15:24am

re: #99 nowherenorth2

On point there.
There is a disconnect between these people and history. When you try to talk about history to them their answer is “past is the past, leave it”
But they are free to dredg it up if need be for their own causes, and remembering points of history with rose colored glasses that help to color and reinforce their world view

I’m a Virginian. I can’t tell you the obvious disconnect of people who tell black Americans to get over slavery and Jim Crow but still curse the day Richmond fell and talk about Bill Sherman as if he were the SS during WWII.

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darthstar  Nov 28, 2017 • 6:15:40am

Weirdest family portrait…Tiffany’s all, “Look at these assholes.”

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2017 • 6:16:35am

re: #102 darthstar

Weirdest family portrait…Tiffany’s all, “Look at these assholes.”

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It was nice of Uncle Vlad to make it though.

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Belafon  Nov 28, 2017 • 6:16:36am

re: #85 nowherenorth2

I played wolfenstein the new order for a great game, and I got it
I played wolfenstein2 for a great game,and to kick Nazi ass. And I love it.
An acquaintance told me that wolfenstein was biased against Nazis. Lets say that was a fun and loud discussion

“And you’re not, whyyyy?”

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nowherenorth2  Nov 28, 2017 • 6:18:10am

re: #101 HappyWarrior

Game set match

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Sir John Barron  Nov 28, 2017 • 6:18:15am

re: #19 DodgerFan1988

Now the Alt-Right are attacking Prince Harry because of his engagement to a biracial women. But remember they’re not racist.

Wait, these are not sarcastic tweets? People actually say these things? And Meghan is older? You go Harry.

half sarc or full / I don’t know.

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Citizen K  Nov 28, 2017 • 6:18:46am

re: #98 HappyWarrior

Did we though? I mean in the Cold War, granted I was very young, we still grew up with the Nazis as villain narrative and honestly I don’t think we with some exceptions ever liked the Nazis before 12/7/41. While most Americans were isolationist prior to Pearl Harbor, most Americans still did sympathize with the Allies. I just feel sick thinking about it. My mom and Dad both had uncles who fought the Nazis as Moms Dad was too young and Dad’s Dad was turned down due to some injuries and having a family.

We had glowing pieces about Hitler in the New York Times and American Nazi Party rallies. We had a secret coup against FDR by sympathizers that was barely foiled. The official gov’t position might have been obliquely supportive of the Allies, but we had non-insignificant pockets of Nazi support until we officially went to war and Nationalist sentiment superseded things.

It’s similar to the same lack of reckoning we had with the Civil War and confederate fetishism. It just happened to take longer since it wasn’t a homegrown thing from the start.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2017 • 6:19:09am

I’m a Southerner and I’m also of German background. But my heroes are people like George Thomas or Sophie/Hans Scholl. They can call me a “cuck” but my heroes stood for humanity over tyranny and slavery when the time came.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2017 • 6:20:30am

re: #107 Citizen K

We had glowing pieces about Hitler in the New York Times and American Nazi Party rallies. We had a secret coup against FDR by sympathizers that was barely foiled. The official gov’t position might have been obliquely supportive of the Allies, but we had non-insignificant pockets of Nazi support until we officially went to war and Nationalist sentiment superseded things.

It’s similar to the same lack of reckoning we had with the Civil War and confederate fetishism. It just happened to take longer since it wasn’t a homegrown thing from the start.

Oh true. We certainly did. I need to read more contemporary accounts of the rise of Nazism.

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nowherenorth2  Nov 28, 2017 • 6:20:36am

Time for me to go in to the room then work.

Be well.
Also wolfenstein is an awesome series

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Targetpractice  Nov 28, 2017 • 6:22:00am

re: #74 HappyWarrior

Especially Nicky and Georgie. Ever see that photo of them wearing their opposite country uniforms?

Then we have Willy, who declared famously when Nicky declared war that if their grandmother (Queen Victoria) had still been alive, she would never have allowed them to go to war with each other.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2017 • 6:22:03am

re: #105 nowherenorth2

Game set match

You know it, I’m very proud that my own second great grandfather, a Hessian immigrant no less was a Union man.

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darthstar  Nov 28, 2017 • 6:22:04am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2017 • 6:24:37am

Mre: #111 Targetpractice

Then we have Willy, who declared famously when Nicky declared war that if their grandmother (Queen Victoria) had still been alive, she would never have allowed them to go to war with each other.

Willy always did have a persecution complex.

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darthstar  Nov 28, 2017 • 6:33:15am
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Citizen K  Nov 28, 2017 • 6:34:10am

re: #115 darthstar

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 28, 2017 • 6:37:46am

re: #114 HappyWarrior

M

Willy always did have a persecution complex.

Ever since he was not allowed to join the Royal Yacht Club…

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meteor  Nov 28, 2017 • 6:41:56am

re: #113 darthstar

Also, puppehs

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lawhawk  Nov 28, 2017 • 6:44:48am

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area.

Gotta have a little fun while resisting the hell out of this debased and craven administration.

Yeah, just be wary of ice queens bearing Turkish delights. Just ask Michael Flynn.

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darthstar  Nov 28, 2017 • 6:47:48am

re: #119 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area.

Gotta have a little fun while resisting the hell out of this debased and craven administration.

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Yeah, just be wary of ice queens bearing Turkish delights. Just ask Michael Flynn.

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nowherenorth2  Nov 28, 2017 • 6:48:02am

cracked.com

Cracked gets it. Also…

Fugazi-Waiting room

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darthstar  Nov 28, 2017 • 6:48:59am

re: #115 darthstar

Follow up on the above:

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lawhawk  Nov 28, 2017 • 6:49:41am

re: #120 darthstar

I get the minimalist and stark white lighting decor, which is hilariously at odds with the over the top ostentatious Trump golf leaf everything style he’s infamous for.

But still, be wary of Trump family or admin officials bearing Turkish delights…

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Decatur Deb  Nov 28, 2017 • 6:54:27am

re: #121 nowherenorth2

cracked.com

Cracked gets it. Also…

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That is a beautiful bit of writing. If I worked at the NYT, I’d be throwing up at my desk.

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Jay C  Nov 28, 2017 • 6:57:09am

re: #121 nowherenorth2

cracked.com

Cracked gets it. Also…

External image

I found their closing graf as on-point a response to the NY Times’ inane Nazi puff-piece as I’ve seen:

If anything good comes from this piece, maybe it’s that this can be the final nail in the shit-encrusted coffin of “Someone you think you hate is just like you!” articles. They never, ever prove that premise, and instead just make you dislike that person even more. Because if they were just like you, they wouldn’t be a goddamn Nazi.

Guess that’s what comes of having professional writers hanging around…

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 28, 2017 • 6:58:08am

re: #107 Citizen K

We had glowing pieces about Hitler in the New York Times and American Nazi Party rallies. We had a secret coup against FDR by sympathizers that was barely foiled. The official gov’t position might have been obliquely supportive of the Allies, but we had non-insignificant pockets of Nazi support until we officially went to war and Nationalist sentiment superseded things.

It’s similar to the same lack of reckoning we had with the Civil War and confederate fetishism. It just happened to take longer since it wasn’t a homegrown thing from the start.

Wasn’t the planned coup basically by plutocrats who were afraid that Roosevelt was going to institute socialism; was it actually tied to Nazis?

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 28, 2017 • 7:01:00am

re: #95 nowherenorth2

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Decatur Deb  Nov 28, 2017 • 7:08:09am

re: #126 Hecuba’s daughter

Wasn’t the planned coup basically by plutocrats who were afraid that Roosevelt was going to institute socialism; was it actually tied to Nazis?

Good background on the anti-Roosevelt environment:
salon.com

This was the most fun bunch:

en.wikipedia.org
en.wikipedia.org

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Belafon  Nov 28, 2017 • 7:08:56am

re: #126 Hecuba’s daughter

Wasn’t the planned coup basically by plutocrats who were afraid that Roosevelt was going to institute socialism; was it actually tied to Nazis?

I don’t know, but it would actually be great if it was. “There were a group of Nazi sympathizers working towards overthrowing FDR because they were afraid he was going to implement Socialism. Wrap that around your heads, wingers.”

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Decatur Deb  Nov 28, 2017 • 7:11:40am

re: #129 Belafon

I don’t know, but it would actually be great if it was. “There were a group of Nazi sympathizers working towards overthrowing FDR because they were afraid he was going to implement Socialism. Wrap that around your heads, wingers.”

You can draw a fairly direct line from Father Coughlin through the JBS to Phyllis Schlafly and her Eagle Forum. Talking face-to-face ‘direct’.

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Citizen K  Nov 28, 2017 • 7:13:47am

re: #126 Hecuba’s daughter

Wasn’t the planned coup basically by plutocrats who were afraid that Roosevelt was going to institute socialism; was it actually tied to Nazis?

Not directly, but Gerald MacGuire, one of the key figures of the coup, clearly sympathized with the fascist movements in Europe and wanted to directly pattern their hypothetical new gov’t after Mussolini’s Italy.

re: #129 Belafon

I don’t know, but it would actually be great if it was. “There were a group of Nazi sympathizers working towards overthrowing FDR because they were afraid he was going to implement Socialism. Wrap that around your heads, wingers.”

Might be off here, but from what I remember, the coup didn’t think FDR himself was a communist, but that the New Deal would lead to communism, and were hoping to ‘convince’ him of that as fellow members of the financial caste.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 28, 2017 • 7:27:25am

So—Yes, Virginia, there is a vast right-wing conspiracy.

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makeitstop  Nov 28, 2017 • 7:28:12am
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Dr. Matt  Nov 28, 2017 • 7:30:53am

re: #69 Dr Lizardo

Maybe not so much what happened, but what’s going to happen?

I’ve been mostly off the grid that last few days….what’s going to happen?

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makeitstop  Nov 28, 2017 • 7:33:31am

CNN reporting that Senate Judiciary Committee may compel Jared to testify due to his stonewalling on handing over documents.

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makeitstop  Nov 28, 2017 • 7:35:37am

(It’s kind of funny that I’m watching so much CNN. I never watch at home, but I’ve got a lot of down time before the gig tonight and gotta kill time somehow. I’ll go back to not watching at all again once I get back home.)

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 28, 2017 • 7:35:58am

Well, so far out of Chicago, I’m not hearing anything bad as for the reason(s) Luis Gutierrez is dropping out of politics. It could be a matter of time but I hope it’s not because of something stupid he did.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 28, 2017 • 7:40:52am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2017 • 7:46:27am

re: #137 GlutenFreeJesus

Well, so far out of Chicago, I’m not hearing anything bad as for the reason(s) Luis Gutierrez is dropping out of politics. It could be a matter of time but I hope it’s not because of something stupid he did.

I really hope so too. Representative Gutierrez has been an excellent voice on behalf of immigrants.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 28, 2017 • 7:46:45am

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Teukka  Nov 28, 2017 • 7:46:50am

re: #55 wheat-dogg

“Cultural marxism” - aren’t those the code words for “the jooooz”?

So Sweden is under attack by both the Muslims and the Jews? I’ll believe it when there are no longer any pork products at smorgasbords.

IIRC, Cultural marxism is Kulturbolschevismus (Cultural Bolshevism) after rebranding and a new snazzy paint job. And yeah, it be a facet the joooz Bolshevism. It’s not the only expression from the 3rd Reich that has been rebranded and spraypainted, see Fake News (Lying Press (Lügenpresse)). Anyone want to take a guess as to the rebranded and painted name of Sexualbolschevismus?

And, yes, it is claimed by the descendants of the Nazis here in Sweden that the jews and muslims are taking over…

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Citizen K  Nov 28, 2017 • 7:56:27am
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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 28, 2017 • 7:59:33am

re: #77 Dr Lizardo

Nikita Krushchev once commented that on his first trip to the UK, he saw a painting of George V somewhere and he initially thought it was a portrait of Nicholas II - he later noted that he was genuinely stunned by the uncanny resemblance between the two men.

One could say that WWI was a family feud on an epic scale.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2017 • 7:59:51am

re: #142 Citizen K

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He’s not very sharp is he. Yes, a movie about Pocahontas. Quite different than his asshole father using it as a slur when he was supposed to be honoring Native Americans who unlike his father have actually served this country honorably. It’s not really even about Elizabeth Warren.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2017 • 8:00:22am

re: #143 Big Beautiful Door

One could say that WWI was a family feud on an epic scale.

And millions of young men lost their lives to it. Ah the evils of nationalism.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 28, 2017 • 8:01:44am
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Citizen K  Nov 28, 2017 • 8:01:49am

re: #144 HappyWarrior

He’s not very sharp is he. Yes, a movie about Pocahontas. Quite different than his asshole father using it as a slur when he was supposed to be honoring Native Americans who unlike his father have actually served this country honorably. It’s not really even about Elizabeth Warren.

Sharp as a lead pipe and twice as dense.

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Belafon  Nov 28, 2017 • 8:02:07am

re: #142 Citizen K

And they’re missing a great angler here. She was a young child when the real events occurred. Right up Roy Moore’s alley mall.

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Citizen K  Nov 28, 2017 • 8:04:10am

re: #148 Belafon

And they’re missing a great angler here. She was a young child when the real events occurred. Right up Roy Moore’s alley mall.

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The only thing keeping it from being up Trump’s alley too is…well…’the colors of the wind’ as it were.

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ObserverArt  Nov 28, 2017 • 8:05:05am

re: #144 HappyWarrior

He’s not very sharp is he. Yes, a movie about Pocahontas. Quite different than his asshole father using it as a slur when he was supposed to be honoring Native Americans who unlike his father have actually served this country honorably. It’s not really even about Elizabeth Warren.

Honoring Native Americans while standing in front of a portrait of Andrew Jackson.

Yeah…optics.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2017 • 8:06:06am

re: #147 Citizen K

Sharp as a lead pipe and twice as dense.

I never saw Pocahontas but the film never belittled her for being Native American. Trump calling Warren “Pocahontas” is meant to be insulting. That’s why he and before him, Scott Brown used it on her. It also shows a lot of ignorance too. Warren thought she was Cherokee. Pocahontas was part of the Pawmunkey or Powahatan tribe. But I’m sure all Native Americans are the same to Dumbo and his sons so the fact that these gentlemen yesterday were Navajo didn’t cross his puny mind.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2017 • 8:06:39am

re: #150 ObserverArt

Honoring Native Americans while standing in front of a portrait of Andrew Jackson.

Yeah…optics.

By our President who is Jackson’s biggest fan in the modern age. But yeah what a jackass.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2017 • 8:07:30am

Like didn’t anyone see before they planned out the ceremony? Oh maybe we shouldn’t have the portrait of Jackson right there? There’s no reason to take down portraits of Jackson in the WH but at the same time, yeah……….

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Citizen K  Nov 28, 2017 • 8:08:42am

re: #153 HappyWarrior

Like didn’t anyone see before they planned out the ceremony? Oh maybe we shouldn’t have the portrait of Jackson right there? There’s no reason to take down portraits of Jackson in the WH but at the same time, yeah……….

Of course they saw. That’s precisely the reason they did it in front of the Jackson portrait.

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Stanley Sea  Nov 28, 2017 • 8:08:53am

…………

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ObserverArt  Nov 28, 2017 • 8:10:33am

re: #154 Citizen K

Of course they saw. That’s precisely the reason they did it in front of the Jackson portrait.

As I said just above. Optics. For the base.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 28, 2017 • 8:10:36am
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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 28, 2017 • 8:13:02am

re: #150 ObserverArt

Honoring Native Americans while standing in front of a portrait of Andrew Jackson.

Yeah…optics.

Reminds me of the photo of dumbass Jerry Falwell Jr. posing with Trump next to Trump’s framed Playboy cover.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 28, 2017 • 8:14:34am

re: #157 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I’m sure O’Keefe was keeping Moore fully informed of his scam.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 28, 2017 • 8:14:39am

re: #157 Backwoods_Sleuth

Are 501(c)(3)’s subject to the Freedom of Information Act?

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Interesting Times  Nov 28, 2017 • 8:14:53am

re: #155 Stanley Sea

I’ll believe it when I see it and not a moment sooner.

To be clear, I’m not getting on your case for posting these tweets; I just find them extremely annoying as a matter of principle - too much false info/false hope/hype only to have it fizzle or be a total nothingburger :/

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 28, 2017 • 8:15:18am
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Stanley Sea  Nov 28, 2017 • 8:16:08am

re: #161 Interesting Times

Seriously.

But it gets me through the day.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 28, 2017 • 8:19:12am

re: #142 Citizen K

What did calling Senator Warren “Pocahontas” have to do with the Native American Code Talkers who visited the White House yesterday? Trump saw Native Americans and his brain screamed “Pocahontas” because when he sees minorities, his mind automatically goes to slurs and insults.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 28, 2017 • 8:19:13am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 28, 2017 • 8:19:56am

re: #162 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 28, 2017 • 8:20:06am

Jared probably think he’s untouchable because his Daddy-in-law is the President.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Nov 28, 2017 • 8:20:32am

re: #157 Backwoods_Sleuth

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retired cynic  Nov 28, 2017 • 8:21:23am

re: #130 Decatur Deb

You can draw a fairly direct line from Father Coughlin through the JBS to Phyllis Schlafly and her Eagle Forum. Talking face-to-face ‘direct’.

Absolutely! My husband remembered Father Coughlin and his successors, and he saw it as a direct connection!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2017 • 8:21:39am

re: #164 Patricia Kayden

What did calling Senator Warren “Pocahontas” have to do with the Native American Code Talkers who visited the White House yesterday? Trump say Native Americans and his brain screamed “Pocahontas” because when he sees minorities, his mind automatically goes to slurs and insults.

Exactly. I mean even if you don’t like Warren. It was still highly inappropriate, irrelevant, and definitely disrespectful. For fuck sake, I think even the worst President could talk a little about how Native Americans and look this up, they do, serve our country at a proportionally high rate and that the Codetalkers and their unique language did help contribute to our victory in the Pacific campaign. It’s not just Trump’s ideology that makes him bad for this country. It’s everything about the fucker.

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dangerman  Nov 28, 2017 • 8:22:32am

re: #151 HappyWarrior

I never saw Pocahontas but the film never belittled her for being Native American. Trump calling Warren “Pocahontas” is meant to be insulting. That’s why he and before him, Scott Brown used it on her. It also shows a lot of ignorance too. Warren thought she was Cherokee. Pocahontas was part of the Pawmunkey or Powahatan tribe. But I’m sure all Native Americans are the same to Dumbo and his sons so the fact that these gentlemen yesterday were Navajo didn’t cross his puny mind.

re: #164 Patricia Kayden

What did calling Senator Warren “Pocahontas” have to do with the Native American Code Talkers who visited the White House yesterday? Trump say Native Americans and his brain screamed “Pocahontas” because when he sees minorities, his mind automatically goes to slurs and insults.

navajo = cherokee = powahatan ======= “indian” ergo (sorry my head just exploded a bit)

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Dr. Matt  Nov 28, 2017 • 8:23:10am

Fox’s Jonah Goldberg: The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau is “a hate crime against the Constitution”

JONAH GOLDBERG: Well look, I think the CFPB [Consumer Financial Protection Bureau] from the outset was an atrocity. It was a hate crime against the Constitution. The Constitution is very clear. You only have three branches of government, that Congress is the only branch that is allowed to levy taxes or raise taxes or apportion revenue, and yet this thing is funded by the Federal Reserve. It is allowed to levy fines and fees on people without approval from Congress. It is now claiming that it exists in some sort of forbidden zone, bizarro other dimension, the upside down from Stranger Things, and it’s not actually part of the executive branch.

Iframe

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Targetpractice  Nov 28, 2017 • 8:25:14am

re: #168 bill d. (b.d.)

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Seriously bad shit for both sides if it turns out that O’Keefe was in any way working with the Moore campaign. Just keeping them informed about the ongoing “sting” could lead to IRS agents on their doorstep.

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Belafon  Nov 28, 2017 • 8:26:15am

re: #172 Dr. Matt

Fox’s Jonah Goldberg: The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau is “a hate crime against the Constitution”

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BWAHAHA. So, the executive branch is not able to enforce laws and punish companies that abuse them?

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 28, 2017 • 8:27:04am

re: #173 Targetpractice

Seriously bad shit for both sides if it turns out that O’Keefe was in any way working with the Moore campaign. Just keeping them informed about the ongoing “sting” could lead to IRS agents on their doorstep.

Not Donald Trump’s IRS.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2017 • 8:28:26am

re: #172 Dr. Matt

Fox’s Jonah Goldberg: The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau is “a hate crime against the Constitution”

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Oh shut the fuck up Jonah. Your ideology tries to link church and state all the goddamn time and you’re crying about the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau? I hope you get ripped off and go crying to the government about it. And I hope NRO goes bankrupt forever too.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2017 • 8:29:17am

re: #173 Targetpractice

Seriously bad shit for both sides if it turns out that O’Keefe was in any way working with the Moore campaign. Just keeping them informed about the ongoing “sting” could lead to IRS agents on their doorstep.

Hopefully it’s the end of both O’Keefe and Moore but I doubt it after O’Keefe’s slap on the old wrist after what he did at Landrieu’s office.

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jeffreyw  Nov 28, 2017 • 8:29:22am

Manhattan prosecutors investigating Paul Manafort’s New York business activities are scheduling interviews with 10 to 20 of his work associates and lenders, including Stephen Calk, whose Chicago-based bank provided millions of dollars in loans on Manafort family properties. - Bloomberg

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Belafon  Nov 28, 2017 • 8:29:39am

re: #174 Belafon

BWAHAHA. So, the executive branch is not able to enforce laws and punish companies that abuse them?

Though, in fairness, I would love to see people use that argument to overthrow municipalities from using fines as a way of funding government operations.

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Citizen K  Nov 28, 2017 • 8:29:47am

re: #164 Patricia Kayden

What did calling Senator Warren “Pocahontas” have to do with the Native American Code Talkers who visited the White House yesterday? Trump saw Native Americans and his brain screamed “Pocahontas” because when he sees minorities, his mind automatically goes to slurs and insults.

Nothing. That’s precisely the point too, everything has to cycle back to Trump and his particular grievances. He makes everything about him in the end.

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Shropshire Slasher  Nov 28, 2017 • 8:30:54am

re: #79 Citizen K

It hits me even moreso after finally playing Wolfenstein: The New Order, and seeing the backlash against its sequel because it was apparently too unfair to Nazis.

You will find the game is way too short. Looking forward to Wolfenstein 3!!!!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 28, 2017 • 8:31:48am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2017 • 8:36:18am

re: #182 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That’s all Trump had to say and we’d all be none the wiser but nope he’s a stupid jerk.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2017 • 8:36:47am

re: #183 Backwoods_Sleuth

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This guy!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 28, 2017 • 8:37:43am
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makeitstop  Nov 28, 2017 • 8:44:11am

Pelosi and Schumer are doing the right thing here. Make Republicans sweat it out and fail on their own.

I’m becoming more convinced that this tax bill isn’t going to happen. Congressional Republicans could mess up a one-car funeral.

Also, Cillizza on CNN, making relative sense.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 28, 2017 • 8:44:45am
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bill d. (b.d.)  Nov 28, 2017 • 8:48:12am

re: #188 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Nice move Schumer and Pelosi.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2017 • 8:48:15am

HE’s fucking mad.

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Targetpractice  Nov 28, 2017 • 8:48:49am

So Chuck and Nancy not only kicking Donny solidly in the ass, but putting Ryan and Yertle in a very uncomfortable position: Support bipartisan talks without including the White House or show loyalty to their Fuhrer and guarantee a gov’t shutdown next Friday.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 28, 2017 • 8:50:01am
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Patricia Kayden  Nov 28, 2017 • 8:50:07am

re: #182 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Was that the same interview in which McCain said that Secretary Clinton needed to shut up after she lost last November? McCain really needs to know when to shut up himself sometimes.

newsweek.com

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Targetpractice  Nov 28, 2017 • 8:53:59am

The only thing that makes this who matter worse for Donny? The current deadline only exists because he wanted to establish his “dominance” over the GOP leadership by accepting the 3 month “deal” versus the one Ryan and Yertle wanted that would have pushed funding out past next November.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 28, 2017 • 8:55:12am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2017 • 8:56:19am

re: #194 Patricia Kayden

Was that the same interview in which McCain said that Secretary Clinton needed to shut up after she lost last November? McCain really needs to know when to shut up himself sometimes.

newsweek.com

He’s deluded if he thinks he “shut up” after losing to Obama. That said no problem with his remarks here since Arizona is home to the Navajo.

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Targetpractice  Nov 28, 2017 • 8:57:17am

re: #196 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Well We’re Boned!

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Interesting Times  Nov 28, 2017 • 8:59:06am

Where’s the desk-flip gif when you need it? -_-

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Dr. Matt  Nov 28, 2017 • 9:01:37am

re: #199 Interesting Times

Translation: In Alabama, Pedophiles > Democrats.

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ObserverArt  Nov 28, 2017 • 9:02:53am

re: #165 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So, she is returning Christmas to its pagan roots.

Now how the heck does that fit in with wingnut evangelicals who were all happy about Donny ‘allowing’ them to say Merry Christmas again?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2017 • 9:06:25am

re: #199 Interesting Times

Where’s the desk-flip gif when you need it? -_-

Bah.

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Belafon  Nov 28, 2017 • 9:07:56am

re: #201 ObserverArt

So, she is returning Christmas to its pagan roots.

Now how the heck does that fit in with wingnut evangelicals who were all happy about Donny ‘allowing’ them to say Merry Christmas again?

You’re asking about consistency among wingnuts?!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 28, 2017 • 9:08:07am
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ObserverArt  Nov 28, 2017 • 9:08:31am

re: #187 makeitstop

Pelosi and Schumer are doing the right thing here. Make Republicans sweat it out and fail on their own.

I’m becoming more convinced that this tax bill isn’t going to happen. Congressional Republicans could mess up a one-car funeral.

Also, Cillizza on CNN, making relative sense.

WARNING!!!

Cillizza making Sense.

WARNING!!!

Small doses of Cillizza may cause brain failure.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 28, 2017 • 9:11:38am

re: #187 makeitstop

Pelosi and Schumer are doing the right thing here. Make Republicans sweat it out and fail on their own.

I’m becoming more convinced that this tax bill isn’t going to happen. Congressional Republicans could mess up a one-car funeral.

Also, Cillizza on CNN, making relative sense.

By tomorrow he’ll be blaming Democrats for Trump’s racist remarks.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2017 • 9:11:39am

re: #204 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Oh damn. A hat off. I’m going to root for the black lady church hats in this contest. Merica!

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Nov 28, 2017 • 9:14:06am

Pocahantas would have been 11 or 12 at the time of her wholly fictitious “romance” with Captain John Smith. Smith, the cartoon version, could therefore be seen as a kind of proto-Republican.

The real Smith did famously claim that Pocahontas saved his life when he was a captive of her father in 1607, when she was 10 or 11. There is a great deal of doubt about this. Among other things, Smith made a very similar claim about a young Turkish girl saving his life while he was a captive in Hungary in about 1602. In both cases he did not represent his savior as anything other than a very young girl.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 28, 2017 • 9:16:08am

re: #208 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

again we are tailspinning off on a remark that is at best just inappropriate and irrelevant…meanwhile Trump and his appointees are dismantling government and we are squabbling about details

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meteor  Nov 28, 2017 • 9:17:48am

re: #204 Backwoods_Sleuth

WTAF is that hat

Even Ascot is less weird.

Fuck it, just no. Is she on crack?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2017 • 9:18:57am

re: #209 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

again we are tailspinning off on a remark that is at best just inappropriate and irrelevant…meanwhile Trump and his appointees are dismantling government and we are squabbling about details

I don’t think it’s irrelevant that Trump chose to be a bigot during a ceremony honoring Native American veterans. The silly stuff about SHS Pecan Pie, yeah that’s irrelevant. Trump continuing to disrespect the office and the people of this country, no.

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makeitstop  Nov 28, 2017 • 9:19:11am

re: #205 ObserverArt

WARNING!!!

Cillizza making Sense.

WARNING!!!

Small doses of Cillizza may cause brain failure.

re: #206 Dr. Matt

By tomorrow he’ll be blaming Democrats for Trump’s racist remarks.

Yeah, I know. Hence the word ‘relative.’

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 28, 2017 • 9:19:56am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2017 • 9:19:56am

re: #210 meteor

WTAF is that hat

Even Ascot is less weird.

Fuck it, just no. Is she on crack?

You’ve never been to a British wedding have you? :). Okay on a joking note, my cousin married a Brit and his older brother showed up wearing a kilt and my other cousins thought it was a riot.

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dangerman  Nov 28, 2017 • 9:21:32am

re: #209 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

again we are tailspinning off on a remark that is at best just inappropriate and irrelevant…meanwhile Trump and his appointees are dismantling government and we are squabbling about details

what were once vices are now habits

(h/t doobie bros)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 28, 2017 • 9:22:32am

re: #210 meteor

WTAF is that hat

Even Ascot is less weird.

Fuck it, just no. Is she on crack?

That hat became infamous when she wore it to William and Kate’s wedding.

Actually, almost ALL of the hats worn at that wedding were very weird.

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Belafon  Nov 28, 2017 • 9:26:48am

re: #213 Backwoods_Sleuth

Wait until the Egyptian government gets wind of what the Washington Post is saying: washingtonpost.com:

Despite Sissi’s repressive rule, under which thousands of suspected Islamists and dissidents have been detained and the space for civil society has been squeezed, Trump remains the Egyptian president’s loudest cheerleader in the West. He has hailed Sissi’s no-nonsense attitude and his recognition that “this ideology of death” — a reference to Islamist extremism — “must be extinguished.”

But it doesn’t seem that Sissi is doing a particularly effective job. His government attempted to cast the Friday attack on the al-Rawda mosque as a sign of the “weakness, despair and collapse” of jihadist forces, which resorted to hitting a soft target rather than Egyptian security forces. But the Egyptian military has been engaged in a grueling and bloody counterinsurgency in northern Sinai for years — particularly since Sissi came to power in a 2013 coup — and both their campaign and the terrorist attacks show no signs of winding down.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 28, 2017 • 9:28:12am

re: #211 HappyWarrior

I don’t think it’s irrelevant that Trump chose to be a bigot during a ceremony honoring Native American veterans. The silly stuff about SHS Pecan Pie, yeah that’s irrelevant. Trump continuing to disrespect the office and the people of this country, no.

it works well; the media debate his gaffes, meanwhile, his people go about allowing foreign governments and international corporations to exert an undue influence on the lives and well-being of americans

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2017 • 9:28:26am

re: #216 Backwoods_Sleuth

That hat became infamous when she wore it the William and Kate’s wedding.

Actually, almost ALL of the hats worn at that wedding were very weird.

They were something. I actually like the royals as people but don’t have much use for the institution itself heh. I’m a strange republican.

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 28, 2017 • 9:28:44am

re: #142 Citizen K

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 28, 2017 • 9:29:02am

re: #214 HappyWarrior

You’ve never been to a British wedding have you? :). Okay on a joking note, my cousin married a Brit and his older brother showed up wearing a kilt and my other cousins thought it was a riot.

Kilts are standard male wedding attire in Scotland.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Nov 28, 2017 • 9:29:38am

re: #209 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

again we are tailspinning off on a remark that is at best just inappropriate and irrelevant…meanwhile Trump and his appointees are dismantling government and we are squabbling about details

The racism and ignorance of the Pocahontas remark go to the heart of Trumpism and modern conservatism, its real motives for trying to dismantle the federal government. The racist base hates the federal government because it enforces the civil rights laws, equal opportunity, fair housing and employment, school integration, etc. They have formed an alliance of convenience with rapacious millionaires who see the feds as the enemy for quite different reasons, OSHA, the EPA, the SEC, and so on.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2017 • 9:29:52am

re: #218 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

it works well; the media debate his gaffes, meanwhile, his people go about allowing foreign governments and international corporations to exert an undue influence on the lives and well-being of americans

It’s not a gaffe though. That’s what you’re not getting here Wendell. He acted like a bigot. We can still discuss the latter of what you’re talking about and I think the media will while still pointing out that doing this was hideous behavior. I just think you’re trivalizing it as a mere gaffe and distraction when it’s actually very much part of why he fails in so many ways as this nation’s commander in chief.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2017 • 9:30:58am

re: #221 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Kilts are standard male wedding attire in Scotland.

Oh I know but for many of us, it was definitely our first time seeing a kilt in the flesh.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 28, 2017 • 9:31:39am

Quick question for stateside Lizards; is Cuban rum available there? Or is still embargoed?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2017 • 9:31:55am

re: #222 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

The racism and ignorance of the Pocahontas remark go to the heart of Trumpism and modern conservatism, its real motives for trying to dismantle the federal government. The racist base hates the federal government because it enforces the civil rights laws, equal opportunity, fair housing and employment, school integration, etc. They have formed an alliance of convenience with rapacious millionaires who see the feds as the enemy for quite different reasons, OSHA, the EPA, the SEC, and so on.

And then you have those like the Mercer father and daughter who are both racist and greedy assholes. It’s always been an unhoy alliance.

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The Major  Nov 28, 2017 • 9:31:58am

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 28, 2017 • 9:33:02am

re: #165 Backwoods_Sleuth

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2017 • 9:33:57am

re: #225 Dr Lizardo

Quick question for stateside Lizards; is Cuban rum available there? Or is still embargoed?

I think it’s still embargoed unfortunately. By the way, question for lizards more in the know about medicine but what’s this about a Cuban lung cancer vaccine I heard about. My brother was talking about it. Sounds interesting. He got into a small debate with our wingnut friend who tried to portray Cuba as a hellhole. Bro acknowledges that Cuban definitely isn’t perfect but our friend acts like all Cuba’s problems are because of the socialism which is absurd.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 28, 2017 • 9:34:32am

re: #223 HappyWarrior

and the whole conservative press Elizabeth Warren = Pocahontas slur is supposedly about how she declared herself to be Native American to take advantage of Affirmative Action guidelines to advance her career, a charge which does not stand up to scrutiny at all but is now Gospel Truth to the Right Wing, to the point that even the WH Press Secretary mentioned it.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2017 • 9:35:47am

I guess my question is here. When does a gaffe stop being a gaffe and start being who someone is. I mean Trump has used this slur before to insult Warren. I honestly don’t think he realizes he insults ALL Native Americans with that but because he’s a petty prick, he just goes after Warren. He really is fundamentally unfit to be called President or a man for that matter. He’s a child. Talks like a child, insults like a child, etc.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Nov 28, 2017 • 9:36:59am

Some good news

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2017 • 9:37:49am

re: #230 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and the whole conwervative press Elizabeth Warren = Pocahontas slur is supposedly about how she declared herself to be Native American to take advantage of Affirmative Action guidelines to advance her career, a charge which does not stand up to scrutiny at all but is now Gospel Truth to the Right Wing, to the point that even the WH Press Secretary mentioned it.

It’s not about Elizabeth Warren though. I don’t care what they say. The whole thing about Warren is so goddamn idiotic coming from Trump anyhow who lied about his paternal grandfather being German born. Warren believed a family legend to be true. We all have those in our family lores. In fact, I honestly wouldn’t be surprised given Warren’s roots in Oklahoma if she were in fact part Cherokee.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 28, 2017 • 9:38:36am

re: #229 HappyWarrior

I think it’s still embargoed unfortunately. By the way, question for lizards more in the know about medicine but what’s this about a Cuban lung cancer vaccine I heard about. My brother was talking about it. Sounds interesting. He got into a small debate with our wingnut friend who tried to portray Cuba as a hellhole. Bro acknowledges that Cuban definitely isn’t perfect but our friend acts like all Cuba’s problems are because of the socialism which is absurd.

OK. I was wondering - I picked up a bottle of Havana Club añejo rum this evening; it was on sale for the equivalent of $15 or so.

Yeah, wingnuts gonna wingnut. I read about that Cuban lung cancer vaccine, but I haven’t heard anything more about since then. I too would be interested to know what’s going on with that.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 28, 2017 • 9:38:50am

re: #232 I Would Prefer Not To

Some good news

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They’ll probably just send a low level State dept person if anything.

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lawhawk  Nov 28, 2017 • 9:38:50am

re: #189 Backwoods_Sleuth

Related:

This is an administration that doesn’t abide by facts, logic, or the rule of law. They just do whatever they want with their personal enrichment the only guiding factor.

Eric doesn’t get that you can be racist for using a word to describe a political opponent and not racist for using that name to identify a historical figure (or historical fiction based on same). Calling someone Pocohantas is racist in the context of what Trump said.

Calling a movie character Pocohantas who is based on the real life person Pocohantas isn’t.

That Eric can’t see or doesn’t care about the distinction once again shows how racist and ignorant Trump spawn are.

Meanwhile, Trump talking about charitable giving today is laughable considering how his charitable foundation was a scam (that can’t fully shut down since it’s under NYS investigation for misappropriating funds - taking funds from 3d parties when it wasn’t legally set up to do so, and Trump used the Foundation as a slush fund for his claims of donating to charity. In other words, other persons funded his foundation, and he claimed that he was donating his own money - he wasn’t).

Oh, and the GOP tax scheme would decimate charitable giving on top of all the other changes to the tax code that would wreak havoc on the middle class.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2017 • 9:39:05am

re: #232 I Would Prefer Not To

Some good news

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I want to buy that lad a pint. Harry and his brother seem like good dudes. As I said, I’m a republican all the way when it comes to across the pond but I like the Windsors. I definitely like them better than a lot of their politicians. Cough Farrage and Nick Griffin.

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Stanley Sea  Nov 28, 2017 • 9:39:14am

re: #210 meteor

WTAF is that hat

Even Ascot is less weird.

Fuck it, just no. Is she on crack?

It’s a fascinator.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 28, 2017 • 9:39:54am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2017 • 9:39:55am

re: #234 Dr Lizardo

OK. I was wondering - I picked up a bottle of Havana Club añejo rum this evening; it was on sale for the equivalent of $15 or so.

Yeah, wingnuts gonna wingnut. I read about that Cuban lung cancer vaccine, but I haven’t heard anything more about since then. I too would be interested to know what’s going on with that.

Yeah I’m curious about that too. Not a bad deal! I’ve never had actual Cuban rum. The rum intrigues me more than the cigars. I don’t like cigars.

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Belafon  Nov 28, 2017 • 9:40:12am

re: #232 I Would Prefer Not To

Some good news

Can we get a “Who needs the Brits, anyway?” tweet from Trump.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2017 • 9:40:21am

re: #239 FormerDirtDart

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Way to go fucker.

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Stanley Sea  Nov 28, 2017 • 9:40:27am

re: #232 I Would Prefer Not To

Some good news

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satire

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2017 • 9:41:33am

re: #243 Stanley Sea

satire

Ah well. I’d still buy ‘Arry a pint in any case.But then I’d ask him to buy me some Irish whiskey :).

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 28, 2017 • 9:43:35am

re: #243 Stanley Sea

satire

I still don’t think Trump will go.

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dangerman  Nov 28, 2017 • 9:43:47am

re: #230 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and the whole conwervative press Elizabeth Warren = Pocahontas slur is supposedly about how she declared herself to be Native American to take advantage of Affirmative Action guidelines to advance her career, a charge which does not stand up to scrutiny at all but is now Gospel Truth to the Right Wing, to the point that even the WH Press Secretary mentioned it.

and true to form no one in the room called her on it

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 28, 2017 • 9:44:46am

Reports are Prince Harry may invite the Obamas instead.

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Stanley Sea  Nov 28, 2017 • 9:45:34am

re: #245 Eclectic Cyborg

I still don’t think Trump will go.

Everything he touches dies, so they’d be smart to keep him the fuck away.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 28, 2017 • 9:46:49am

re: #247 Eclectic Cyborg

Reports are Prince Harry may invite the Obamas instead.

and DT will at some point issue a tweet on the subject…

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Belafon  Nov 28, 2017 • 9:47:14am

Did anyone from the US go to William and Kate’s wedding?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2017 • 9:47:40am

re: #247 Eclectic Cyborg

Reports are Prince Harry may invite the Obamas instead.

I would if I had the choice.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 28, 2017 • 9:47:48am

re: #240 HappyWarrior

Yeah I’m curious about that too. Not a bad deal! I’ve never had actual Cuban rum. The rum intrigues me more than the cigars. I don’t like cigars.

This is what I picked up.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 28, 2017 • 9:48:21am

re: #247 Eclectic Cyborg

Reports are Prince Harry may invite the Obamas instead.

Holy shit that would be the ultimate slam.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2017 • 9:49:05am

re: #250 Belafon

Did anyone from the US go to William and Kate’s wedding?

Seeing that our then Ambassador to the UK was there.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2017 • 9:49:35am

re: #252 Dr Lizardo

This is what I picked up.

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Cheers. I recently got some good Grapefruit German wheat beer.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 28, 2017 • 9:49:39am

A Shiba Inu wearing a bow tie? Of course you’re going to watch.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Nov 28, 2017 • 9:50:54am

re: #253 Dr Lizardo

Holy shit that would be the ultimate slam.

Obama should give Harry a bust of Churchill as a wedding present.

//

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 28, 2017 • 9:51:20am

re: #247 Eclectic Cyborg

Reports are Prince Harry may invite the Obamas instead.

Obama at least recognized the announcement:

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Citizen K  Nov 28, 2017 • 9:53:35am
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Ace-o-aces  Nov 28, 2017 • 9:55:02am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2017 • 9:55:08am

re: #259 Citizen K

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I’m sure he fancies himself a “responsible gun owner” too. I hate fucking gun nuts and their stupidity. Want a gun at your home? Fine but goddamn it, this shit.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 28, 2017 • 9:55:10am

re: #259 Citizen K

A GUY JUST CALLED MY RESTAURANT TO ASK IF WE FOUND HIS GUN.

HE LOST HIS GUN.

HE WAS DRINKING AND HE LOST HIS GUN.

I’M GOING TO LOSE MY FUCKING MIND.

Proper response would be “I just sold it illegally to a black gangsta”.

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Stanley Sea  Nov 28, 2017 • 9:56:42am
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Sir John Barron  Nov 28, 2017 • 9:57:13am

re: #172 Dr. Matt

Fox’s Jonah Goldberg: The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau is “a hate crime against the Constitution”

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It’s true that the GOP has hated the CFPB since before Eve ate the apple. The GOP war on consumers will continue until morale improves.

Got into it yesterday with a writer from the Weekly Standard who ran the usual piece about how the CFPB was “a runaway agency, out of control bureaucracy, etc”. The same flimflam conservatives have been writing for decades about any federal efforts to help consumers and remedy the balance of power between corporations and individuals.

Where, come to think of it, is Bernie in all this?

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Dr. Matt  Nov 28, 2017 • 9:58:48am

U.S. Supreme Court rejects challenge to Florida’s open-carry ban

TALLAHASSEE — The U.S. Supreme Court on Monday refused to take up a challenge to a Florida law that bars people from openly carrying firearms in public, ending a case that started nearly six years ago when a man was arrested in St. Lucie County.

The U.S. Supreme Court, as is common, did not explain its reasons for declining to hear the case. But the move effectively let stand a Florida Supreme Court ruling in March that said the open-carry ban did not violate the constitutional right to bear arms.

Dotard will be tweet raging about this as soon as Hannity Lumpy or Foxtard & Friends picks this up.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 28, 2017 • 10:00:24am
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FormerDirtDart  Nov 28, 2017 • 10:02:29am
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dangerman  Nov 28, 2017 • 10:03:36am

re: #259 Citizen K

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1. Control your weapon at all times.
2. Strongly, loudly advocate for harsh and severe criminal and civil liability, including loss of 2A privileges, for anyone who doesn’t.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 28, 2017 • 10:04:14am

So Project Veritas or whatever it’s called is finally discredited, right? Right, “liberal” media?

Since it was the Wash Post that directly busted Okeefe’s latest scam here’s hoping the smell of garbage will forever taint them.

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dangerman  Nov 28, 2017 • 10:05:21am

re: #265 Dr. Matt

U.S. Supreme Court rejects challenge to Florida’s open-carry ban

Dotard will be tweet raging about this as soon as Hannity Lumpy or Foxtard & Friends picks this up.….

….and explain to him what to say

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lawhawk  Nov 28, 2017 • 10:05:29am

re: #264 Sir John Barron

It’s true that the GOP has hated the CFPB since before Eve ate the apple. The GOP war on consumers will continue until morale improves.

Got into it yesterday with a writer from the Weekly Standard who ran the usual piece about how the CFPB was “a runaway agency, out of control bureaucracy, etc”. The same flimflam conservatives have been writing for decades about any federal efforts to help consumers and remedy the balance of power between corporations and individuals.

Where, come to think of it, is Bernie in all this?

Not a single one of these mouth breathers can actually point to a single instance - one - where the agency was acting in any manner approaching out of control or was a runaway agency.

Not a single instance.

It’s just a religious belief that the govt agency is doing wrong simply by existing, and the GOP answer is to sabotage it until it does - and then reduce funding/eliminate it altogether so that millionaires can get richer and everyone else is stuck with the tab.

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Shropshire Slasher  Nov 28, 2017 • 10:05:35am

re: #252 Dr Lizardo

I have heard that Kraken Rum is quite good. Don’t get bit by the Kraken!

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Sir John Barron  Nov 28, 2017 • 10:05:38am

re: #267 FormerDirtDart

Whatevs, Sarah. Have fun when your boss is impeached.

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Citizen K  Nov 28, 2017 • 10:05:47am

re: #261 HappyWarrior

I’m sure he fancies himself a “responsible gun owner” too. I hate fucking gun nuts and their stupidity. Want a gun at your home? Fine but goddamn it, this shit.

Too many gun owners have interpreted the 2A to mean not only free unrestrained gun ownership, but freedom from any responsibility in using the damn things.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Nov 28, 2017 • 10:06:57am
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Dr Lizardo  Nov 28, 2017 • 10:07:45am

re: #272 Shropshire Slasher

I have heard that Kraken Rum is quite good. Don’t get bit by the Kraken!

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Any Lizards ever tried Sailor Jerry rum? They sell it here in Ostrava at Kaufland.

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dangerman  Nov 28, 2017 • 10:07:48am

re: #274 Citizen K

Too many gun owners have interpreted the 2A to mean not only free unrestrained gun ownership, but freedom from any responsibility in using the damn things.

not enough updings in the cosmos for this

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lawhawk  Nov 28, 2017 • 10:09:23am
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Shropshire Slasher  Nov 28, 2017 • 10:09:47am

re: #262 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I enjoy watching Live PD which follows several different jurisdictions of law enforcement around the country. One episode they got a call stating that a man shot himself in the hand. Once they arrived on scene, they found out the man shot himself with a pistol while watching a youtube video on how to clean your gun. Apparently he skipped the video on how to unload your gun safely.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 28, 2017 • 10:10:33am

re: #268 dangerman

12. Control your weapon at all times.
23. Strongly, loudly advocate for harsh and severe criminal and civil liability, including loss of 2A privileges, for anyone who doesn’t.

1. Mandated firearm training for all firearm owners. If these gun fetishists want to play soldier, they should have some level of training just like real soldiers.

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Shropshire Slasher  Nov 28, 2017 • 10:11:52am

re: #280 Dr. Matt

1. Mandated firearm training for all firearm owners. If these gun fetishists want to play soldier, they should have some level of training just like real soldiers.

and mandated retraining every (fill in the blank) years.

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electrotek  Nov 28, 2017 • 10:13:43am

Anyone else remember that damn movie?

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Unshaken Defiance  Nov 28, 2017 • 10:14:13am

re: #265 Dr. Matt

U.S. Supreme Court rejects challenge to Florida’s open-carry ban

Dotard will be tweet raging about this as soon as Hannity Lumpy or Foxtard & Friends picks this up.

Of course it did. 90+% of gun laws passed hold up.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Nov 28, 2017 • 10:14:22am

Anyone here have experience with the Geeeetech GiantArm D200 3D printer? I found a really good sale at gearbest.com, and am thinking of getting my first 3D printer.

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Alephnaught  Nov 28, 2017 • 10:16:10am

Hmm, sales figures of the album “Low in High School” must make for really interesting reading….

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Alephnaught  Nov 28, 2017 • 10:17:14am
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Belafon  Nov 28, 2017 • 10:22:03am

re: #284 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Going for the big one, I see. I’m going with a much smaller first one. With a recommended mod, it’ll cost about $350.

Here’s a robotic arm that will not only do 3d printing, but welding and assembly line work as well. It’s about $1200.

As for the answer to your actual question, no idea.

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danarchy  Nov 28, 2017 • 10:23:44am

re: #234 Dr Lizardo

OK. I was wondering - I picked up a bottle of Havana Club añejo rum this evening; it was on sale for the equivalent of $15 or so.

Yeah, wingnuts gonna wingnut. I read about that Cuban lung cancer vaccine, but I haven’t heard anything more about since then. I too would be interested to know what’s going on with that.

snopes.com

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Shropshire Slasher  Nov 28, 2017 • 10:24:35am

re: #284 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

INTRODUCING the GIANTARM D200 3D PRINTER

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 28, 2017 • 10:28:10am

A positive note, FEMA never paid out any of the $30 million.
But, none of the much needed tarps and plastic sheeting was never acquired/delivered/installed. And, award process has begun again, so nothing will be achieved any time soon.

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Belafon  Nov 28, 2017 • 10:30:24am

About that Alabama poll showing Moore in the lead:

A new Change Research survey in Alabama finds Roy Moore (R) has regained his lead over Doug Jones (D) in the U.S. Senate race, 49% to 44%.

“What has changed? The largest difference is turnout: many Republicans who ten days ago said they might not vote, now say they plan to show up on Election Day and vote for Moore.”

They’re not ashamed to vote for him, just ashamed of being seen as voting for him.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 28, 2017 • 10:30:31am
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electrotek  Nov 28, 2017 • 10:30:55am

re: #285 Alephnaught

Hmm, sales figures of the album “Low in High School” must make for really interesting reading….

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Maybe that might spur him to reunite Johnny Marr and the rest of The Smiths for once.

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danarchy  Nov 28, 2017 • 10:31:18am

re: #272 Shropshire Slasher

I have heard that Kraken Rum is quite good. Don’t get bit by the Kraken!

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Kraken is my rum of choice. Sailor Jerry is ok in a pinch.

Brinley Gold Coffee is my favorite sipping rum.

brinleygoldshipwreck.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 28, 2017 • 10:31:45am
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Dr. Matt  Nov 28, 2017 • 10:32:36am

re: #291 Belafon

About that Alabama poll showing Moore in the lead:

They’re not ashamed to vote for him, just ashamed of being seen as voting for him.

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lawhawk  Nov 28, 2017 • 10:34:15am

re: #295 Backwoods_Sleuth

Well, Trump’s a part time president; full time golfer/saboteur.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 28, 2017 • 10:35:15am
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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 28, 2017 • 10:35:47am

re: #219 HappyWarrior

They were something. I actually like the royals as people but don’t have much use for the institution itself heh. I’m a strange republican.

The monarchy, surprisingly, actually serves a very useful role in democracy. By having a symbolic head of state above the fray of politics. I sometimes think we should petition the Queen to take us back, dump Trump and replace Congress with a Parliament.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 28, 2017 • 10:36:09am

re: #288 danarchy

snopes.com

That’s what I was curious about. Thanks.

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Interesting Times  Nov 28, 2017 • 10:36:33am

re: #291 Belafon

About that Alabama poll showing Moore in the lead:

They’re not ashamed to vote for him, just ashamed of being seen as voting for him.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 28, 2017 • 10:37:26am

re: #294 danarchy

Kraken is my rum of choice. Sailor Jerry is ok in a pinch.

Brinley Gold Coffee is my favorite sipping rum.

brinleygoldshipwreck.com

One I’d like to try that’s available here is Ron Legendario, also a Cuban rum, from what I’ve heard tell, quite possibly the best there is. Sorta pricey though at about $45 for a bottle.

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lawhawk  Nov 28, 2017 • 10:39:03am

re: #298 Backwoods_Sleuth

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dangerman  Nov 28, 2017 • 10:40:13am

re: #290 FormerDirtDart

A positive note, FEMA never paid out any of the $30 million.
But, none of the much needed tarps and plastic sheeting was never acquired/delivered/installed. And, award process has begun again, so nothing will be achieved any time soon.

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any bozo - with or without orange hair and size 15 shoes can look up the incorporation docs on sunbiz.org

took me 30 seconds.

that paperwork, with two amended filings landed a $30m contract?

wow

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Nov 28, 2017 • 10:45:34am
“O’Keefe did great work on ACORN. This WaPo attempt is horrible, both morally and effectively,” Shapiro tweeted.
money.cnn.com

Apparently to a wingnut, lying to destroy an organization that helps register voters is “great work”. He should have been sued back to the stone-age over his Acorn scam.
It’s nice that they have to go all the way back to Acorn for an example of a successful scam.

James O’Keefe on the defensive after failed anti-Post plot (CNN)

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2017 • 10:47:07am

Only in America could be being a criminal sheriff be a financially lucrative exercise.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 28, 2017 • 10:47:39am
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Belafon  Nov 28, 2017 • 10:47:42am

re: #301 Interesting Times

There’s some truth in it, and some hyperbole. I will be surprised if Moore loses. Doesn’t mean people shouldn’t try. There are lots of people in this country who will reward a pedophile just because he has an R after his name. But Virginia shows that it’s not all over.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 28, 2017 • 10:48:54am

re: #308 Belafon

Worst case scenario: Moore wins, becomes key vote in getting the tax bill passed.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Nov 28, 2017 • 10:49:20am

re: #287 Belafon

Going for the big one, I see. I’m going with a much smaller first one. With a recommended mod, it’ll cost about $350.

Here’s a robotic arm that will not only do 3d printing, but welding and assembly line work as well. It’s about $1200.

As for the answer to your actual question, no idea.

I figure that if I get a little one, I’ll wind up replacing it with a bigger one later, so I’m skipping right to it. The filament is a lot less expensive on Amazon than from the Chinese shop that’s selling the printer.

A post here that mentioned that arm, probably from you, got me thinking about getting a 3D printer.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Nov 28, 2017 • 10:50:16am

re: #309 Eclectic Cyborg

Worst case scenario: Moore wins, becomes key vote in getting the tax bill passed.

And the GOP is known as the party that seated a child-molester. there will be a lot of outrage about that outside of Alabama.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Nov 28, 2017 • 10:50:58am

re: #309 Eclectic Cyborg

Worst case scenario: Moore wins, becomes key vote in getting the tax bill passed.

Mitch McConnell has done everything in his power to break the workings of Government once a Barack Obama was elected. Why not support PedoBear Roy.

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KGxvi  Nov 28, 2017 • 10:51:17am

re: #308 Belafon

There’s some truth in it, and some hyperbole. I will be surprised if Moore loses. Doesn’t mean people shouldn’t try. There are lots of people in this country who will reward a pedophile just because he has an R after his name. But Virginia shows that it’s not all over.

If Moore wins and isn’t expelled from the Senate, every race in 2018 that’s within 5 or 10 points is going to have an issue of “why does this Republican support an alleged pedophile/sexual predator?” Maybe Alabama voters can’t be embarrassed like that, but what are the odds that voters in Nevada and Arizona and Texas and Tennessee and Utah can be?

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 28, 2017 • 10:51:49am
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Dr. Matt  Nov 28, 2017 • 10:53:13am

At this point, I won’t be surprised or disappointed if/when Roy Moore is elected. The US has become a nation of idiots (present company excluded).

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Kragar  Nov 28, 2017 • 10:53:30am
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Citizen K  Nov 28, 2017 • 10:55:58am

re: #311 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

And the GOP is known as the party that seated a child-molester. there will be a lot of outrage about that outside of Alabama.

Power is its own reward, and power begets power. How many voters will they actually lose, in key places, over seating Moore if he ends up helping them pass shit in the Senate?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Nov 28, 2017 • 10:56:05am

re: #316 Kragar

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 28, 2017 • 10:56:20am

re: #316 Kragar

I expect the closure of the CFPB to be announced any day now.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Nov 28, 2017 • 10:56:57am

re: #317 Citizen K

Power is its own reward, and power begets power. How many voters will they actually lose, in key places, over seating Moore if he ends up helping them pass shit in the Senate?

I don’t know, but I know the shit they pass will hurt most voters.

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Alephnaught  Nov 28, 2017 • 10:58:15am

re: #214 HappyWarrior

You’ve never been to a British wedding have you? :). Okay on a joking note, my cousin married a Brit and his older brother showed up wearing a kilt and my other cousins thought it was a riot.

I’m a Scot, and I can tell you wearing a kilt to a wedding is normal: the modern formal kilt (By “modern”, I mean post-Enlightenment era) has been designed as formal evening wear, and is considered as valiid “black tie” evening wear in Scotland, along with your usual tuxedos.

It’s a very unusual wedding in Scotland where the main male players don’t wear kilts. When I married my partner, we both wore kilts.

It’s also popular amongst sports fans, particularly Rugby Union. Some times when I’m in Glasgow city centre and I see lots of blokes in kilts, I don’t think “Oh, there’s lots of blokes in kilts!”, I think “Oh! The rugby must be on. I wonder who Scotland are playing?”.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Nov 28, 2017 • 11:01:34am

re: #287 Belafon

Going for the big one, I see. I’m going with a much smaller first one. With a recommended mod, it’ll cost about $350.

Here’s a robotic arm that will not only do 3d printing, but welding and assembly line work as well. It’s about $1200.

As for the answer to your actual question, no idea.

I pulled the trigger. I couldn’t resist the sale price. It was $899 at Amazon, and $780 on sale this week at GearBest. Shipping was free.

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Stanley Sea  Nov 28, 2017 • 11:02:33am

re: #316 Kragar

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We have a fucking TV show government

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Citizen K  Nov 28, 2017 • 11:03:41am

re: #320 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

i don’t know, but I know the shit they pass will hurt most voters.

Oh, of course. And that’s half the point of passing some of them. The problem is how many voters would stake their vote against the GOP, either by switching their vote or abstaining altogether, because of Moore, or because of those bills passed? We’ve seen how easily they can pass the buck and turn the Dems into the ‘party of sexual predators’ despite Trump and Moore, and how easily they get to claim Dems are the ones making their lives miserable while passing bills that destroy their livelihood, wages, health, etc.?

Despite paeans by Nat’l Repubs, who imagines that the national figure of the GOP base on Moore is appreciably any higher than the 9% of Alabama Repubs who actually take the accusations seriously?

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 28, 2017 • 11:03:59am

re: #280 Dr. Matt

1. Mandated firearm training for all firearm owners. If these gun fetishists want to play soldier, they should have some level of training just like real soldiers.

I think they should also have to be licensed and carry liability insurance, just like you have to have in order to drive a car.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 28, 2017 • 11:04:09am

re: #323 Stanley Sea

We have a fucking TV show government

Yep. After every stupid thing Trump does you can just hear the announcer shouting: “But wait…there’s more!”

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Belafon  Nov 28, 2017 • 11:04:20am

re: #322 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I pulled the trigger. I couldn’t resist the sale price. It was $899 at Amazon, and $780 on sale this week at GearBest. Shipping was free.

Cool.

~$300 is in a range where it’s decent quality but I won’t freak out if I see it sitting around the house not being used frequently.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 28, 2017 • 11:05:45am

re: #326 Eclectic Cyborg

Yep. After every stupid thing Trump does you can just hear the announcer shouting: “But wait…there’s more!”

“Order this second bag of shit for free, just pay (this exorbitant) separate shipping and handling…”

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ObserverArt  Nov 28, 2017 • 11:06:19am

re: #309 Eclectic Cyborg

Worst case scenario: Moore wins, becomes key vote in getting the tax bill passed.

Best case, the Republicans allowing Moore into the Senate steel Collins and Murkowski to vote against the tax reform crap as a big fuck you to the party.

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Citizen K  Nov 28, 2017 • 11:08:30am

re: #326 Eclectic Cyborg

Yep. After every stupid thing Trump does you can just hear the announcer shouting: “But wait…there’s more!”

I said it before: With Trump, you can assume the worst, and still overestimate him.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 28, 2017 • 11:08:38am

re: #324 Citizen K

The problem is that in the Wingnut mentality, the GOP can do no wrong.

If Republicans try something and it works: “Take that, Libtards!”

If Republicans try something and it didn’t work: “clearly the Liberals/Clinton/Pelosi/Obama/black people/brown people/jews/etc did something to sabotage it or otherwise make it ineffective, that’s why we need to elect more Republicans!”

It’s a cycle that’s impossible to break and we’re all paying the price for it right now.

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Stanley Sea  Nov 28, 2017 • 11:09:36am

re: #328 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Order this second bag of shit for free, just pay (this exorbitant) separate shipping and handling…”

“handling” always love that scam

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Nov 28, 2017 • 11:10:37am

re: #331 Eclectic Cyborg

The problem is that in the Wingnut mentality, the GOP can do no wrong.

If Republicans try something and it works: “Take that, Libtards!”

If Republicans try something and it didn’t work: “clearly the Liberals/Clinton/Pelosi/Obama/black people/brown people/jews/etc did something to sabotage it or otherwise make it ineffective, that’s why we need to elect more Republicans!”

It’s a cycle that’s impossible to break and we’re all paying the price for it right now.

Stupidity coupled with arrogance is the root of all of our problems. Republican propagandists tell stupid people that they’re smarter than Liberals, so they’ll be loyal to Republicans forever, or until the Republicans starve them to death.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2017 • 11:11:05am

re: #321 Alephnaught

I’m a Scot, and I can tell you wearing a kilt to a wedding is normal: the modern formal kilt (By “modern”, I mean post-Enlightenment era) has been designed as formal evening wear, and is considered as valiid “black tie” evening wear in Scotland, along with your usual tuxedos.

It’s a very unusual wedding in Scotland where the main male players don’t wear kilts. When I married my partner, we both wore kilts.

It’s also popular amongst sports fans, particularly Rugby Union. Some times when I’m in Glasgow city centre and I see lots of blokes in kilts, I don’t think “Oh, there’s lots of blokes in kilts!”, I think “Oh! The rugby must be on. I wonder who Scotland are playing?”.

My cousin’s brother in law is a rugby player. Don’t know if they have Scots roots but they do live there. We also had a second great grandmother from Glasgow too.

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Belafon  Nov 28, 2017 • 11:11:24am

re: #332 Stanley Sea

“handling” always love that scam

Someone gave me a Fandango card for my birthday (big scam: you can only use it online, where they charge you a fee for each ticket bought). But, I could get a “free” Justice League poster, if I wanted to pay $6.95 for shipping and handling.

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Kragar  Nov 28, 2017 • 11:12:13am
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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 28, 2017 • 11:13:10am

re: #319 Eclectic Cyborg

I expect the closure of the CFPB to be announced any day now.

Mulvaney effectively closed it by freezing all its actions. So you didn’t have to wait long.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 28, 2017 • 11:15:06am

re: #330 Citizen K

I said it before: With Trump, you can assume the worst, and still overestimate him.

Turns out Trump can find new levels of worse we didn’t even imagine.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Nov 28, 2017 • 11:15:34am

re: #335 Belafon

Someone gave me a Fandango card for my birthday (big scam: you can only use it online, where they charge you a fee for each ticket bought). But, I could get a “free” Justice League poster, if I wanted to pay $6.95 for shipping and handling.

Unless it’s complete junk, it would probably go for about $15 retail.
I’m sure they’re still making a profit, but not a huge one.

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Interesting Times  Nov 28, 2017 • 11:16:37am

re: #338 Big Beautiful Door

Turns out Trump can find new levels of worse we didn’t even imagine.

Remember when the inability to foresee an event like 9/11 was referred to as a “failure of imagination”? The same thing happened in 2016 with Cheeto Benito’s win - a failure of too many people to imagine the worst coming true.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Nov 28, 2017 • 11:18:36am

re: #340 Interesting Times

Remember when the inability to foresee an event like 9/11 was referred to as a “failure of imagination”? The same thing happened in 2016 with Cheeto Benito’s win - a failure of too many people to imagine the worst coming true.

They sure engaged their imaginations regarding “Killery”.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 28, 2017 • 11:21:04am

re: #340 Interesting Times

Remember when the inability to foresee an event like 9/11 was referred to as a “failure of imagination”? The same thing happened in 2016 with Cheeto Benito’s win - a failure of too many people to imagine the worst coming true.

Clinton was a sure thing, so it was a great time to cast a protest vote.///

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 28, 2017 • 11:21:55am

And…….boom.

A Turkish businessman who name has been mentioned in relation to Robert Mueller’s investigation into Russia’s meddling in the 2016 election, has pleaded guilty to conspiring to evade US sanctions on Iran, and plans on testifying against his co-defendant.

The guilty plea by Reza Zarrab could have implications for former national security adviser Michael Flynn if his cooperation with federal authorities also involves Mr Mueller’s investigation. Mr Mueller is said to be scrutinising Mr Flynn’s lobbying work in Turkey, while Mr Zarrab’s release was allegedly one of two issues that Turkish officials brought up with Mr Flynn during a meeting last December, when Donald Trump’s team was working on his transition to the White House.

During that meeting, Turkish officials reportedly offered $15 million for the release of Mr Zarrab — who has been held in US custody since March 2016 — alongside the extradition of exiled Turkish cleric Fethullah Gulen. Mr Gulen is reportedly living in Pennsylvania

The Turkish government has denied that officials from the country discussed any offers of money for the extradition or release of the men, and said that it has not worked toward their goals in any extra-judicial manner. Mr Flynn’s lawyers have also denied the allegations.

independent.co.uk

I’ve been noticing that the pro-AKP Turkish media (well, the English language stuff like Daily Sabah) is cranking up the hysteria, saying that Zarrab was coerced into this and that he’s been forced to testify in the case.

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Unshaken Defiance  Nov 28, 2017 • 11:25:14am

cnn.com

North Korea launches missile, Trump goes ballistic?

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Belafon  Nov 28, 2017 • 11:31:26am

re: #343 Dr Lizardo

And…….boom.

independent.co.uk

I’ve been noticing that the pro-AKP Turkish media (well, the English language stuff like Daily Sabah) is cranking up the hysteria, saying that Zarrab was coerced into this and that he’s been forced to testify in the case.

Why do I get the feeling that’s not a problem if it occurs in Turkey?

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Dr. Matt  Nov 28, 2017 • 11:32:15am

re: #344 Unshaken Defiance

cnn.com

North Korea launches missile, Trump goes ballistic?

Rocket Man just told Dotard to go fuck himself.

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wrenchwench  Nov 28, 2017 • 11:34:44am
348
wrenchwench  Nov 28, 2017 • 11:43:58am
349
Citizen K  Nov 28, 2017 • 11:44:21am

Christ, what an asshole.

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bratwurst  Nov 28, 2017 • 11:48:24am

I fucking hate this guy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 28, 2017 • 11:49:11am

re: #348 wrenchwench

re: #349 Citizen K

It will give him another opportunity to tell a Pocahontas “joke”…

352
wrenchwench  Nov 28, 2017 • 11:53:39am

re: #351 Backwoods_Sleuth

It will give him another opportunity to tell a Pocahontas “joke”…

From Citizen K’s link:

[…]

“The president is capping his celebration of Native American Heritage Month by opening the door to new drilling and mining on land considered sacred by tribal nations,” said the group’s executive director Jennifer Rokala. “After his appalling remarks at the White House on Monday, President Trump’s assault on tribal interests continues at a staggering pace.”

[…]

‘Freedom of religion until there’s property involved’.

353
wrenchwench  Nov 28, 2017 • 11:54:46am

re: #352 wrenchwench

From Citizen K’s link:

Oh, look at that, it’s my link, too. Care of my senator.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 28, 2017 • 11:55:32am

re: #352 wrenchwench

“The president is capping his celebration of Native American Heritage Month by opening the door to new drilling and mining on land considered sacred by tribal nations,” said the group’s executive director Jennifer Rokala. “After his appalling remarks at the White House on Monday, President Trump’s assault on tribal interests continues at a staggering pace.”.

He sees them just as Andrew Jackson did: as an impediment to the spread of White Civilization and Free Enterprise

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wrenchwench  Nov 28, 2017 • 11:56:48am

re: #354 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He sees them just as Andrew Jackson did: as an impediment to the spread of White Civilization and Free Enterprise

Bonus: competition for the casinos.

356
Lidane  Nov 28, 2017 • 11:57:01am

We now go live to today’s episode of Great Arguments for Atheism:

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 28, 2017 • 11:58:07am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2017 • 11:59:47am

re: #350 bratwurst

I fucking hate this guy.

[Embedded content]

That movie came out 21 years ago and Pocahontas was a heroine in it and not use as a slur. Good grief, I know what Huckabee is doing but are people really dumb enough to fall for that?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Nov 28, 2017 • 12:01:08pm

re: #356 Lidane

We now go live to today’s episode of Great Arguments for Atheism:

[Embedded content]

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 28, 2017 • 12:01:12pm

re: #358 HappyWarrior

That movie came out 21 years ago and Pocahontas was a heroine in it and not use as a slur. Good grief, I know what Huckabee is doing but are people really dumb enough to fall for that?

Yes. Yes, they are.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2017 • 12:01:23pm

By the way, the voice actress and model for Pocahontas in the movie, Irene Bedard is of Inupiat, Yupik, Inuit, Cree and Métis. Would have been awesome if Disney had found a Powhatan woman but at least they had someone actually of Native American descent playing the role and being the model for the character.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Nov 28, 2017 • 12:01:47pm

re: #358 HappyWarrior

That movie came out 21 years ago and Pocahontas was a heroine in it and not use as a slur. Good grief, I know what Huckabee is doing but are people really dumb enough to fall for that?

People who look up to the huckster are definitely that dumb.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2017 • 12:01:58pm

re: #360 Eclectic Cyborg

Yes. Yes, they are.

I fucking hate people sometimes. I’m just glad that most of my family sees through this shit. Really disappointed though that one of my best friends has become a right wing parrot though.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 28, 2017 • 12:03:40pm

re: #359 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

[Embedded content]

God is not registered to vote in Alabama.

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Stanley Sea  Nov 28, 2017 • 12:03:46pm
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jaunte  Nov 28, 2017 • 12:04:39pm

re: #354 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He sees them just as Andrew Jackson did: as an impediment to the spread of White Civilization and Free Enterprise

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 28, 2017 • 12:05:09pm

re: #196 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 28, 2017 • 12:06:51pm

re: #366 jaunte

The president should “stop using our historical people of significance as a racial slur against one of his opponents.“

Ron Howard/Narrator: He won’t.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 28, 2017 • 12:07:59pm

re: #356 Lidane

Perhaps the good people at The Federalist would be so kind as to call a national press conference and then put the Big Kahuna Himself on the speakerphone so we can hear it straight from Him.

Oh, they can’t do that? Yeah, quelle surprise.

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dangerman  Nov 28, 2017 • 12:08:03pm

re: #350 bratwurst

I fucking hate this guy.

HMike Huckabee Wonders If Disney Is ‘Profiting From Racism’ With Their Pocahontas Movie

[Embedded content]

No Mike they aren’t.

I think you just tried to.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2017 • 12:08:03pm

re: #366 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Oh they’re just overly PC. /// So will say the people who are getting up their annual let’s whine about STarbucks cups and Merry Christmas rants.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 28, 2017 • 12:08:07pm

Fuck, Part 2.

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The Major  Nov 28, 2017 • 12:09:42pm

re: #282 electrotek

It’s like John Cole says over at “Balloon Juice”: The only difference between the fundamentalists on Christianity and Islam is their symbols - one a cross, the other a crescent moon….

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Stanley Sea  Nov 28, 2017 • 12:14:46pm

re: #372 Blind Frog Belly White

x7Z3C+bxwPLZhw203/4aC5QkWWuHDMMf1tCTfexeewmn+pRJAXhkb72wKdJiu41p3MNRD5i3q5eD99iwrdwielCVf+XQh84s7rvsMHDgF33JjTS/2lI7zg==

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plansbandc  Nov 28, 2017 • 12:22:12pm

re: #358 HappyWarrior

Absolutely. Yes.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 28, 2017 • 12:34:54pm

re: #374 Stanley Sea

[Embedded content]

JLxvGOYfjV78G5B2nANiWwfN4DRaT58K

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Jebediah, RBG  Nov 28, 2017 • 2:22:48pm

re: #121 nowherenorth2

cracked.com

Cracked gets it. Also…

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