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Unshaken Defiance  Nov 29, 2017 • 6:15:07pm

Had mine in to the Vet today. She was Most Displeased.

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lawhawk  Nov 29, 2017 • 6:20:56pm

I’m thankful that there’s a place like this to share stories, news, and debate politics of the day in a sane environment that’s missing pretty much everywhere else online.

Thanks Charles for putting up with 16 years and 1 month of my posts, tweetstorms, etc.

It’s much appreciated.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2017 • 6:21:42pm

re: #2 lawhawk

I’m thankful that there’s a place like this to share stories, news, and debate politics of the day in a sane environment that’s missing pretty much everywhere else online.

Thanks Charles for putting up with 16 years and 1 month of my posts, tweetstorms, etc.

It’s much appreciated.

This really has been heh pardon the word “safe space.” A great haven away from some of the nutty shit I do see on the left and of course the nutty shit on the right.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 29, 2017 • 6:24:07pm
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FormerDirtDart  Nov 29, 2017 • 6:25:52pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2017 • 6:26:18pm

It’s been over a year but I’m still shocked by what happened last November and I don’t think I ever will stop being. I think historically- history major and all that jazz so i find myself wondering what people in the future will be saying about these years. I really want to leave the world a better place for my niece and the other young people right now and Trump well he made that harder.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 29, 2017 • 6:26:48pm

This is just insane now.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 29, 2017 • 6:27:10pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2017 • 6:27:19pm

The thing though is, it’s not just Trump. It’s this whole right wing movement that’s out there. And it started with a lot of people so called Never Trumpers treat as great men like William F. Buckley, Ronald Reagan, and others.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 29, 2017 • 6:28:30pm
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 29, 2017 • 6:29:49pm

god is a blind, insane child

discuss amongst yourselves i’m too verklempt

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Belafon  Nov 29, 2017 • 6:29:50pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

This tweet is not for Trump.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 29, 2017 • 6:30:39pm

re: #10 Charles Johnson

national debt when ronald reagan took office: $907 billion
when he left office: $4,064 billion

treasurydirect.gov

national debt under obama: doubled

national debt under reagan/bush: quadrupled!

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Targetpractice  Nov 29, 2017 • 6:30:42pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

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Of course he feels that way. The media is too gutless and beaten down to do more than report his yammering as if it were fact, afraid of losing “access” if they start treating him the same as they’d treat a third world tinpot dictator.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2017 • 6:31:06pm

He knows that any lie he says. His dimwit cult will buy it. If he were to tweet tomorrow- Barack Obama conspired with Al Queda to plan 9/11. I guarantee you that it would be accepted as true in many circles and SHS would be there front and center to make an excuse for it. This is the world we’re in. Where a dishonest lying son of a bitch like Trump was seen as a “straight shooter” and Clinton, who was not only more honest than Trump but also Sanders was seen as dishonest. I’m with Charles. I’m deeply depressed about where we’ve gone as a country. The fact that Trump was the GOP’s nominee was bad enough for me but that enough of our countrymen and women got him elected is just so depressing.

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No Depression  Nov 29, 2017 • 6:33:41pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

This is just insane now.

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Fuckin’ budget deficits, how do they work?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 29, 2017 • 6:34:43pm

Notice how Trump decides to pick a big fight with Britain right as the GOP are trying to get the destructive tax cuts through?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 29, 2017 • 6:35:13pm

re: #16 No Depression

Fuckin’ budget deficits, how do they work?

More like: “Fucking math - how does it work?”

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William Lewis  Nov 29, 2017 • 6:35:37pm

One for my favorite Youtube subscriptions. Thanks for posting this.

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Belafon  Nov 29, 2017 • 6:37:53pm

re: #15 HappyWarrior

He knows that any lie he says. His dimwit cult will buy it. If he were to tweet tomorrow- Barack Obama conspired with Al Queda to plan 9/11. I guarantee you that it would be accepted as true in many circles and SHS would be there front and center to make an excuse for it. This is the world we’re in. Where a dishonest lying son of a bitch like Trump was seen as a “straight shooter” and Clinton, who was not only more honest than Trump but also Sanders was seen as dishonest. I’m with Charles. I’m deeply depressed about where we’ve gone as a country. The fact that Trump was the GOP’s nominee was bad enough for me but that enough of our countrymen and women got him elected is just so depressing.

It’s sad that so many voted for him, but he got in because of a design in our electoral system that was supposed to keep people like him out, but that has been used by conservatives. It also required some help from a foreign country.

In some ways, what we’re having to deal with reminds me of a line from Doctor Who when he was dealing with the Silence in 1969. It’s not an invasion we’re repelling. They’re already here. It’s a revolution we’re having. And overthrowing the old guard is hard. But it has to be done.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 29, 2017 • 6:38:49pm

I wrote a regular expression for comments today that should prevent those unclosed italics and bold tags from turning the rest of the page into a mess.

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ObserverArt  Nov 29, 2017 • 6:39:06pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

This is just insane now.

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Reciting wingnut “facts” is he?

Everyone knows Obama doubled the national debt. Fox and Rush said so.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Nov 29, 2017 • 6:39:48pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

This is just insane now.

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It is indeed hard not to get depressed.

I’m exhausted. Just worn down by the cavalcade of evil shit.

Worst of all: Trump is just the symptom. The real illness is Fox News, Hate Radio & the online echo chamber that has made 1/3 of the country utterly inured to reality. Trump is just one guy - a rich guy (?) - but one guy. It’s the rest of the country, who vote for hateful Senators, Congressmen, governors, etc. that have made this into a death spiral.

So yeah. We’re fucked until the brainwashing collapses under its own weight, and it’s going to take either a military defeat on par with the Third Reich being bombed into oblivion, or a total economic collapse. Or both.

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Belafon  Nov 29, 2017 • 6:39:52pm

re: #17 Eclectic Cyborg

Notice how Trump decides to pick a big fight with Britain right as the GOP are trying to get the destructive tax cuts through?

He retweeted a white supremacist Brit. Then the government responded. He’s not planning this in any way.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2017 • 6:42:45pm

re: #20 Belafon

It’s sad that so many voted for him, but he got in because of a design in our electoral system that was supposed to keep people like him out, but that has been used by conservatives. It also required some help from a foreign country.

In some ways, what we’re having to deal with reminds me of a line from Doctor Who when he was dealing with the Silence in 1969. It’s not an invasion we’re repelling. They’re already here. It’s a revolution we’re having. And overthrowing the old guard is hard. But it has to be done.

True, true. He did have help both from the Russians and the outdated EC. I just find myself distressed that it was close enough to rig, ya know?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 29, 2017 • 6:44:43pm

re: #24 Belafon

He retweeted a white supremacist Brit. Then the government responded. He’s not planning this in any way.

Oh, I know. He’s too dumb for that. I am sure the GOP is thrilled with the timing though.

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Targetpractice  Nov 29, 2017 • 6:46:05pm

re: #25 HappyWarrior

True, true. He did have help both from the Russians and the outdated EC. I just find myself distressed that it was close enough to rig, ya know?

I realized how fucked our democracy was when the day after this past election, I asked my colleagues and at least half either said they hadn’t voted because “nothing changes” or they were “too busy” to spare a moment to visit the polls. Our one major tool to exercise control on our elected leaders and many Americans view it as a chore that isn’t worth doing unless they get instant gratification.

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ipsos  Nov 29, 2017 • 6:46:28pm

Today really did me in. It’s a good thing that (a) I work mostly from home and (b) it’s a slow week and (c) I really do have a bit of a cold that the kids brought back from Thanksgiving, because all I could do most of this afternoon was turn off the TV and the Interwebs and retreat under the covers.

Which is fine for a day or two now and again, but unsustainable in the long run.

How do we wake up from this nightmare?

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Skip Intro  Nov 29, 2017 • 6:46:59pm

re: #26 Eclectic Cyborg

Nobody criticizes trump, ever, except the people who own his worthless ass.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2017 • 6:47:11pm

re: #27 Targetpractice

I realized how fucked our democracy was when the day after this past election, I asked my colleagues and at least half either said they hadn’t voted because “nothing changes” or they were “too busy” to spare a moment to visit the polls. Our one major tool to exercise control on our elected leaders and many Americans view it as a chore that isn’t worth doing unless they get instant gratification.

I sort of felt like that when I saw how easily parts of the left turned on Obama.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 29, 2017 • 6:48:07pm
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plansbandc  Nov 29, 2017 • 6:48:30pm

Trump is going to ruin us. I honestly don’t know what my husband and I are going to do. We are utterly screwed.

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Belafon  Nov 29, 2017 • 6:49:04pm

re: #25 HappyWarrior

True, true. He did have help both from the Russians and the outdated EC. I just find myself distressed that it was close enough to rig, ya know?

I understand. The people I work with are so oblivious about it and it frustrates me at times. I’m in Texas, and watching “Christians” underfund health care and education has real consequences.

But then I look at what happened in VA, and it gives me hope. There are a lot more Democrats running for office next year here in Texas than have in a long time. Hopefully some more of those will win and things will improve even if only a little. I think Democrats will win back the US House next year. I think Republicans will lose seats in the Senate, and the tax cut, if it passes, will hurt them even more.

But we have to keep fighting.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 29, 2017 • 6:49:21pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

All these right wing provocateur guys have such punchable faces.

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Belafon  Nov 29, 2017 • 6:50:34pm

re: #28 ipsos

Today really did me in. It’s a good thing that (a) I work mostly from home and (b) it’s a slow week and (c) I really do have a bit of a cold that the kids brought back from Thanksgiving, because all I could do most of this afternoon was turn off the TV and the Interwebs and retreat under the covers.

Which is fine for a day or two now and again, but unsustainable in the long run.

How do we wake up from this nightmare?

Realize it’s not a nightmare, we’re awake, and do even little things that will make it better.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2017 • 6:51:27pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

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Safety? Motherfucker your speech was stolen. Grow a pair.

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Nov 29, 2017 • 6:52:17pm

re: #13 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

national debt when ronald reagan took office: $907 billion
when he left office: $4,064 billion

treasurydirect.gov

national debt under obama: doubled

national debt under reagan/bush: quadrupled!

Keep in mind that Republicans blame the huge 2009 budget deficit when the economy crashed on Obama, even though it was passed under the GW Bush administration. Also, there were two other factors involved - The Iraq and Afghanistan wars were “off the books” during the Bush years - ie military spending on those were not reflected on the budget - and deficit - numbers. President Obama put them back on as budgetary items, and was handed the huge bill for those. Second was the bailout money paid to the automotive industry (which was fully paid back with interest by all involved) and to the financial sector - investment firms, primarily - who still have not - leaving taxpayers holding the huge bag on those. Also, outside of 2013 when the federal deficit numbers leveled off for a year, every other year saw lower deficit amounts than the prior budget.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2017 • 6:56:32pm

re: #33 Belafon

I understand. The people I work with are so oblivious about it and it frustrates me at times. I’m in Texas, and watching “Christians” underfund health care and education has real consequences.

But then I look at what happened in VA, and it gives me hope. There are a lot more Democrats running for office next year here in Texas than have in a long time. Hopefully some more of those will win and things will improve even if only a little. I think Democrats will win back the US House next year. I think Republicans will lose seats in the Senate, and the tax cut, if it passes, will hurt them even more.

But we have to keep fighting.

What did happen here in our local elections gave me hope. Danica Roem not only beating Bob Marshall but winning pretty big was awesome. I really do have hope that Texas could be competitive in the future and that oculd be the death kneel for the Republican Party as we know it.

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allegro  Nov 29, 2017 • 6:57:00pm

Not even OT:

What is it about a kitty face that so demands to be kissed? Over the years I’ve had many “kids” of numerous species but I’ve never felt so compelled to kiss on their little faces.

Fortunately thus far Onyx and Storm are real good sports about it. I might even suspect they like it since they keep booping my face well knowing “old lady kisses” are the inevitable, irresistible follow.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 29, 2017 • 6:57:35pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Nov 29, 2017 • 6:57:42pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

His timeline is just full of crazy. Conservatives live in an alternate-reality.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Nov 29, 2017 • 6:59:38pm
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Skip Intro  Nov 29, 2017 • 7:00:14pm

re: #36 HappyWarrior

Safety? Motherfucker your speech was stolen. Grow a pair.

That’s the big scam the right is playing.

“Don’t allow me to speak and I sue. Allow me to speak and you have to spend tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars to protect me or I sue”.

Any place these parasites demand access to faces a lose-lose proposition,which is part of the plan.

I lost track over how much that asshole Milo cost the University of California playing this game, but it was in the hundreds of thousands of dollars.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 29, 2017 • 7:01:03pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

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Sometimes round-frame glasses and tie can’t make up for a lack of sense. (See also Tucker Carlson for variant on theme.)

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makeitstop  Nov 29, 2017 • 7:01:54pm

re: #26 Eclectic Cyborg

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Charles Johnson  Nov 29, 2017 • 7:02:02pm
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Targetpractice  Nov 29, 2017 • 7:05:15pm

re: #46 Charles Johnson

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10 months later, the search for the elusive “pivot” continues. “Any day now,” they keep telling themselves, “he’ll straighten up and become the president we’re used to. He’s learning the job still, we have to be patient…”

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Charles Johnson  Nov 29, 2017 • 7:06:05pm
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goddamnedfrank  Nov 29, 2017 • 7:06:06pm

Is a fan of Flynn a flan?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2017 • 7:07:46pm

re: #43 Skip Intro

That’s the big scam the right is playing.

“Don’t allow me to speak and I sue. Allow me to speak and you have to spend tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars to protect me or I sue”.

Any place these parasites demand access to faces a lose-lose proposition,which is part of the plan.

I lost track over how much that asshole Milo cost the University of California playing this game, but it was in the hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Oh I know. It’s just so funny to hear someone who acts like he’s such a bad ass cry that he felt thraetned over this.

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Targetpractice  Nov 29, 2017 • 7:07:52pm

re: #48 Charles Johnson

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And yet it won’t matter, because Alabamans are prepared to go to the polls in two weeks and put him in the Senate anyway because it’s better than having a Democrat win the seat.

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Unshaken Defiance  Nov 29, 2017 • 7:08:54pm

re: #46 Charles Johnson

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makeitstop  Nov 29, 2017 • 7:10:21pm

NY Daily News: Donald Trump is a Madman.

After his latest spasm of deranged tweets, only those completely under his spell can deny what growing numbers of Americans have long suspected: The President of the United States is profoundly unstable. He is mad. He is, by any honest layman’s definition, mentally unwell and viciously lashing out.

Some might say we are just suffering through the umpteenth canny, calculated presidential eruption designed to distract the nation from special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation, or perhaps from unpopular legislation working its way through Congress.

Quite possible. But Occam’s razor, and the sheer strangeness of Trump’s behavior, leads us to conclude that we are witnessing signs of mania.

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calochortus  Nov 29, 2017 • 7:10:32pm

re: #48 Charles Johnson

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So maybe it’s not a great idea to try to trick reasonably intelligent people who buy ink by the barrel?

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scottslemmons  Nov 29, 2017 • 7:11:12pm

Don’t know if anyone had posted this already…

From Gizmodo: People are getting robocalls about their “derogatory” Trump posts.

And of course, it’s connected to a scheme by a Twitter Nazi — in this case, Jacky Posobiec.

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Unshaken Defiance  Nov 29, 2017 • 7:11:16pm

re: #36 HappyWarrior

Safety? Motherfucker your speech was stolen. Grow a pair.

Why would a guy so devoted need the paper copy so bad anyway? You know your stuff or you do not know your stuff.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 29, 2017 • 7:11:53pm

re: #28 ipsos

Today really did me in. It’s a good thing that (a) I work mostly from home and (b) it’s a slow week and (c) I really do have a bit of a cold that the kids brought back from Thanksgiving, because all I could do most of this afternoon was turn off the TV and the Interwebs and retreat under the covers.

Which is fine for a day or two now and again, but unsustainable in the long run.

How do we wake up from this nightmare?

We have a fighting chance with what’s left of the electoral process in 2018/2020. If that fails, find your own way.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2017 • 7:12:08pm

re: #56 Unshaken Defiance

Why would a guy so devoted need the paper copy so bad anyway? You know your stuff or you do not know your stuff.

Well Skip’s right. He’s definitely just trying to stir up shit and cost UConn tons of money.

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Cheechako  Nov 29, 2017 • 7:12:19pm

re: #53 makeitstop

NY Daily News: Donald Trump is a Madman.

And trump will prove it with a tweet.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Nov 29, 2017 • 7:13:23pm

re: #49 goddamnedfrank

Too many Conservatives are insane.

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Skip Intro  Nov 29, 2017 • 7:13:28pm

re: #53 makeitstop

Trump acted like this before he was elected. It isn’t an act, it’s who trump is.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 29, 2017 • 7:13:52pm

re: #51 Targetpractice

And yet it won’t matter, because Alabamans are prepared to go to the polls in two weeks and put him in the Senate anyway because it’s better than having a Democrat win the seat.

Maybe.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 29, 2017 • 7:14:35pm

Trump’s retweets today of an outright fascist group should have ended his presidency.

But they won’t.

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makeitstop  Nov 29, 2017 • 7:15:47pm

Vanity Fair: Is Trump lying, or losing his mind?

For years, Donald Trump’s most outrageous fabrications have, in a way, served to bolster his reputation as a media savant. Braggadocio and exaggeration were the keys to building his brand as a successful businessman—a role he performed weekly on The Apprentice—despite multiple bankruptcies and allegations of fraud. He rose to political prominence by promoting the racist lie that President Barack Obama was not born in the United States. On the campaign trail, he mixed his talent for self-promotion with an even headier dose of conspiracy theories, all the while instructing his supporters to disbelieve anything they read or saw in the mainstream media. His boldest act of deception—or, perhaps, self-delusion—came on the first week of his presidency, when he ordered Sean Spicer to inform the press that his inaugural crowd had been the largest in history, despite clear photographic evidence to the contrary. Trump’s top adviser, Kellyanne Conway, called it an “alternative fact.”

But a growing body of evidence suggests that Trump’s alternative view of the world is more than just dirty politics: it may be pathological.

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scottslemmons  Nov 29, 2017 • 7:15:50pm

re: #60 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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Too many Conservatives are insane.

And those lunatics are going to be controlling our government for 50-100 years. Or the end of humanity as a species, whichever comes first.

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Unshaken Defiance  Nov 29, 2017 • 7:16:05pm

re: #43 Skip Intro

That’s the big scam the right is playing.

“Don’t allow me to speak and I sue. Allow me to speak and you have to spend tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars to protect me or I sue”.

Any place these parasites demand access to faces a lose-lose proposition,which is part of the plan.

I lost track over how much that asshole Milo cost the University of California playing this game, but it was in the hundreds of thousands of dollars.

re: #58 HappyWarrior

He is spot on. Well said skip. Talk about “don’t feed the troll” in real money…

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2017 • 7:16:39pm

re: #63 Charles Johnson

Trump’s retweets today of an outright fascist group should have ended his presidency.

But they won’t.

No they won’t and he’ll do something worse by the end of the week or next month.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2017 • 7:18:08pm

re: #65 scottslemmons

And those lunatics are going to be controlling our government for 50-100 years. Or the end of humanity as a species, whichever comes first.

The worst power Trump has right now is the judiciary. The Senate R’s held up Obama’s appointees (not just Judge Garland) knowing that they’d get to shape the judiciary if their guy won. And Trump’s judiciary picks have been awful so far.

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Belafon  Nov 29, 2017 • 7:19:19pm

bloomberg.com

Subpoenas are being sent to 23 Trump businesses requiring them to preserve records that may be sought by the attorneys general from the District of Columbia and Maryland in a lawsuit accusing the president of profiting from his office.

U.S. District Judge Peter Messitte on Tuesday issued a two-paragraph order granting the Democratic officials’ request for permission to serve those subpoenas, which don’t call for the immediate production of any information.

As the Daily Kos diarist said who posted this: “Not really earth-shattering, but the judge is not likely to do this and then grant a motion to dismiss.”

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Belafon  Nov 29, 2017 • 7:20:55pm

Ha:

h/t Daily Kos

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 29, 2017 • 7:21:36pm

re: #53 makeitstop

NY Daily News: Donald Trump is a Madman.

extra updings for occam’s razor mention

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Skip Intro  Nov 29, 2017 • 7:21:42pm

re:

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2017 • 7:22:07pm

re: #70 Belafon

Ha:

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h/t Daily Kos

Good for her. Keep on speaking out Alyssa!

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Unshaken Defiance  Nov 29, 2017 • 7:25:57pm

re: #69 Belafon

Think about the pressure that brings to The Donald. Walls closing in.

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scottslemmons  Nov 29, 2017 • 7:27:18pm

re: #68 HappyWarrior

The worst power Trump has right now is the judiciary. The Senate R’s held up Obama’s appointees (not just Judge Garland) knowing that they’d get to shape the judiciary if their guy won. And Trump’s judiciary picks have been awful so far.

Let’s not forget media ownership and killing Net Neutrality. With those, Trump and the Republicans get to control the flow of information and lock some voices out of the conversation entirely.

And there’s still the issue of Russian hacking, which the GOP seems uninterested in…

IOW, there’s a lot of shit fucked up, and they’re going to stay fucked up for the rest of our lives, and our children’s lives, and maybe our grandchildren’s lives.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2017 • 7:28:59pm

re: #75 scottslemmons

Let’s not forget media ownership and killing Net Neutrality. With those, Trump and the Republicans get to control the flow of information and lock some voices out of the conversation entirely.

And there’s still the issue of Russian hacking, which the GOP seems uninterested in…

IOW, there’s a lot of shit fucked up, and they’re going to stay fucked up for the rest of our lives, and our children’s lives, and maybe our grandchildren’s lives.

Yes, absolutely.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 29, 2017 • 7:30:02pm

re: #63 Charles Johnson

Trump’s retweets today of an outright fascist group should have ended his presidency.

But they won’t.

It’s gonna get really, really bad now. My prediction is that Trump is going to come out and assert that he has secret intelligence proving that Obama was a foreign born muslim plant (that he can’t release for “national security” reasons). Trump is spinning towards a complete mental breakdown and his way of compensating for the ridicule, loss of respect and perceived threat to his presidency will be to create a new narrative that drives his followers into a society destabilizing hate spiral designed to prop him up as dictator.

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BlueGrl21  Nov 29, 2017 • 7:30:38pm

Had a really great conversation with a group of my male coworkers today. They are across the political spectrum, which made it even better.

Matt Lauer prompted it.

Every single one of them is very happy all of the sexual harassment is finally being exposed and women are speaking out. They believe them all, including Moore’s accusers.

They had no clue how bad it was until now. Really, none. “Did you know 80% of women have dealt with this in the workplace!?!?” “Yep. I did.”

“Has it ever happened to you?” “Yes, more than once.”

And then this was the greatest part…

“How do you define sexual harassment? What is and is not ok? And if I ever did ANYTHING, I am really sorry.”

None of these guys have ever even considered doing anything inappropriate. But someone just ASKING me really meant a lot to me. I don’t know why but it did.

Anyway, I work with mostly men and they’re a good group.

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VegasGolfer  Nov 29, 2017 • 7:32:19pm

re: #40 Charles Johnson

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motherjones.com

Trump hates black people. Its been well documented for many, many years.

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Unshaken Defiance  Nov 29, 2017 • 7:32:35pm

re: #75 scottslemmons

IOW, there’s a lot of shit fucked up, and they’re going to stay fucked up for the rest of our lives, and our children’s lives, and maybe our grandchildren’s lives.

Before anyone throws in the towel, a bunch of us ain’t dead or silenced yet. If his picks act like the three times dishonored Roy Moore they will make actionable mistakes. Over reaches.

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makeitstop  Nov 29, 2017 • 7:34:06pm

re: #80 Unshaken Defiance

Before anyone throws in the towel, a bunch of us ain’t dead or silenced yet. If his picks act like the three times dishonored Roy Moore they will make actionable mistakes. Over reaches.

They are evil, but they are also incompetent. An important detail.

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dangerman  Nov 29, 2017 • 7:36:52pm

re: #81 makeitstop

They are evil, but and they are also incompetent. An important detail.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 29, 2017 • 7:43:00pm
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 29, 2017 • 7:45:50pm

i think if somebody from 1958 were magically transported to 2017 and saw the way americans dress today, they’d think we’d become a nation of beatniks and slovenly blue collar workers

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Belafon  Nov 29, 2017 • 7:50:13pm

re: #84 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

i think if somebody from 1958 were magically transported to 2017 and saw the way americans dress today, they’d think we’d become a nation of beatniks and slovenly blue collar workers

And they’d wonder where the lynchings are.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 29, 2017 • 7:50:41pm
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Decatur Deb  Nov 29, 2017 • 7:51:28pm

re: #84 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

i think if somebody from 1958 were magically transported to 2017 and saw the way americans dress today, they’d think we’d become a nation of beatniks and slovenly blue collar workers

I am a person from 1958. Beats were better dressed, with residual use of skinny black ties, fedoras, and jumpers over leotards. You’re thinking of filthy hippies.

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Interesting Times  Nov 29, 2017 • 7:52:46pm

re: #87 Decatur Deb

Is it something in the water down there? -_-

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Belafon  Nov 29, 2017 • 7:53:31pm

I went to go look up Alyssa Milano’s age on IMDB. When I typed in her name, the second entry was for Alyssa Milano’s Sex Tape. I haven’t watched it, but I suspect this Gawker entry is probably spot on:

So an Alyssa Milano sex tape has finally leaked.

Okay, so maybe “leaked” isn’t the right word. More like, “intentionally distributed by the actress herself.”

But still, a sex tape is a sex tape.

Okay, so maybe this sex tape isn’t at all like other sex tapes, but at least Alyssa Milano gets naked in it.

Okay, so maybe Alyssa Milano doesn’t get naked in it, but at least we get a concise history of the Syrian civil war and why we should care about it.

That’s pretty hot, right?

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Decatur Deb  Nov 29, 2017 • 7:55:02pm

Father of the Beats

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allegro  Nov 29, 2017 • 7:55:28pm

re: #76 HappyWarrior

Yes, absolutely.

No, not absolutely. No. Just fucking no. This nihilistic shit is NOT supported by facts. Yeah, Trump and the GOP suck more than any administration has sucked before. Yeah, they are trying to destroy everything good and replace it with more suckage. Some of it is working and it will be hell to pay and years to overcome. MOST OF IT IS NOT.

There are so many standing strong and saying “NO! Not on my watch!” There are millions of us - more than them by far - saying “NO! You will not!” The walls are indeed closing on these criminals and I sincerely believe that their days are numbered. What will we be left with? Time will tell and I think it won’t be much longer when we find out. I see our system, flawed as it has been so revealed to be, working in spite of them.

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Interesting Times  Nov 29, 2017 • 7:55:50pm

So sayeth the Lord, y’all:

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 29, 2017 • 7:56:13pm

re: #87 Decatur Deb

I am a person from 1958. Beats were better dressed, with residual use of skinny black ties, fedoras, and jumpers over leotards. You’re thinking of filthy hippies.

“no se admitan de jipis”

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Decatur Deb  Nov 29, 2017 • 7:56:32pm

re: #88 Interesting Times

Is it something in the water down there? -_-

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That’s about par for the nation, and I suspect that tweeter doesn’t know shit about the Jones campaign.

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Interesting Times  Nov 29, 2017 • 7:57:54pm

re: #94 Decatur Deb

That’s about par for the nation, and I suspect that tweeter doesn’t know shit about the Jones campaign.

Good. Because check out the numbers in this follow-up:

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Unshaken Defiance  Nov 29, 2017 • 7:58:44pm

Note to my fellow photographers- New 32 inch monitor came in. Got it dialed in. Lightroom and PS have had recent major updates. Long story short I’m revisiting shots I took as far back as 2009 to see how new tech helps. Lightroom made one catalog out of eight years of digital photography.
Take this shot for example.

Music clubs are excellent places to grow as a photographer

That shot looks a lot better than what I could work up back then from difficult almost inadequate light. IOW images that previously failed, are now not only usable, but can be far better than when shot.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 29, 2017 • 7:59:15pm

re: #93 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

“no se admitan de jipis”

O perros.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 29, 2017 • 7:59:34pm

re: #90 Decatur Deb

Father of the Beats

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2017: same stuff $150 a pop in macy’s

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2017 • 8:02:07pm

re: #91 allegro

No, not absolutely. No. Just fucking no. This nihilistic shit is NOT supported by facts. Yeah, Trump and the GOP suck more than any administration has sucked before. Yeah, they are trying to destroy everything good and replace it with more suckage. Some of it is working and it will be hell to pay and years to overcome. MOST OF IT IS NOT.

There are so many standing strong and saying “NO! Not on my watch!” There are millions of us - more than them by far - saying “NO! You will not!” The walls are indeed closing on these criminals and I sincerely believe that their days are numbered. What will we be left with? Time will tell and I think it won’t be much longer when we find out. I see our system, flawed as it has been so revealed to be, working in spite of them.

True. I’m just feel cynical tonight.

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Weaselone  Nov 29, 2017 • 8:03:35pm

re: #94 Decatur Deb

That’s about par for the nation, and I suspect that tweeter doesn’t know shit about the Jones campaign.

One has to point out that the tweeter made this response to an article that clearly shows campaigners for Jones doing outreach to a potential black voter.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Nov 29, 2017 • 8:03:51pm

re: #92 Interesting Times

So sayeth the Lord, y’all:

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I just followed God, so I guess I’m not an atheist anymore. At least not on Twitter.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 29, 2017 • 8:04:04pm

” California’s attorney general sued an online, for-profit university Wednesday, alleging officials made false promises to entice students and illegally tried to collect their overdue debt. …

… Ashford is one of the top enrollers of students with military ties, federal data show. The university enrolled more than 15,000 active-duty military students and nearly 8,000 veterans and other students using GI Bill benefits in fiscal 2016. …”

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calochortus  Nov 29, 2017 • 8:04:40pm

re: #91 allegro

No, not absolutely. No. Just fucking no. This nihilistic shit is NOT supported by facts. Yeah, Trump and the GOP suck more than any administration has sucked before. Yeah, they are trying to destroy everything good and replace it with more suckage. Some of it is working and it will be hell to pay and years to overcome. MOST OF IT IS NOT.

There are so many standing strong and saying “NO! Not on my watch!” There are millions of us - more than them by far - saying “NO! You will not!” The walls are indeed closing on these criminals and I sincerely believe that their days are numbered. What will we be left with? Time will tell and I think it won’t be much longer when we find out. I see our system, flawed as it has been so revealed to be, working in spite of them.

Bear in mind that while the Trumpers are trying to roll back as much progress as they can, we’re still moving forward in a lot of areas. For example, conservatives may whine about same sex marriage, but no one is seriously expecting it to be repealed.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2017 • 8:07:23pm

re: #103 calochortus

Bear in mind that while the Trumpers are trying to roll back as much progress as they can, we’re still moving forward in a lot of areas. For example, conservatives may whine about same sex marriage, but no one is seriously expecting it to be repealed.

That is true and that’s a credit to how Obama went about accomplishing the changes he made.

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makeitstop  Nov 29, 2017 • 8:07:51pm

re: #91 allegro

No, not absolutely. No. Just fucking no. This nihilistic shit is NOT supported by facts. Yeah, Trump and the GOP suck more than any administration has sucked before. Yeah, they are trying to destroy everything good and replace it with more suckage. Some of it is working and it will be hell to pay and years to overcome. MOST OF IT IS NOT.

There are so many standing strong and saying “NO! Not on my watch!” There are millions of us - more than them by far - saying “NO! You will not!” The walls are indeed closing on these criminals and I sincerely believe that their days are numbered. What will we be left with? Time will tell and I think it won’t be much longer when we find out. I see our system, flawed as it has been so revealed to be, working in spite of them.

Thank you.

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bratwurst  Nov 29, 2017 • 8:08:22pm

Yep.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 29, 2017 • 8:14:35pm

re: #45 makeitstop

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 29, 2017 • 8:15:53pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2017 • 8:21:40pm

re: #108 goddamnedfrank

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If you have to say stuff like that, it probably is that bad.

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jaunte  Nov 29, 2017 • 8:23:40pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2017 • 8:24:09pm

re: #110 jaunte

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It’s a damn good question.

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jaunte  Nov 29, 2017 • 8:25:04pm

re: #111 HappyWarrior

Their smug faces make me want to break something.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 29, 2017 • 8:26:54pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2017 • 8:27:19pm

re: #112 jaunte

Their smug faces make me want to break something.

What pisses me off is that Moore has the nerve to complain about felons getting their rights restored to vote when he himself has been removed due to his own misconduct on the bench twice. I wouldn’t want Moore to be a local judge or anyone of importance and that was before it came out that he’s a creepy asshole.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 29, 2017 • 8:29:23pm

Worship service. Pastor needs to lose his tax exemption.

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jaunte  Nov 29, 2017 • 8:31:39pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2017 • 8:32:36pm

re: #116 jaunte

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Yet this has become one of the most reliable Republican voting blocs. Now you know why they push hatred of the other though. Gotta cover up that GOP policies are all about taking from their checkbooks.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Nov 29, 2017 • 8:35:26pm

re: #110 jaunte

They both have the face of child molesters.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 29, 2017 • 8:37:07pm

re: #118 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

They both have the face of child molesters.

I’d like to have the face of a child molester, but the mounting and framing would be prohibitive.

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Jebediah, RBG  Nov 29, 2017 • 8:38:58pm

re: #119 Decatur Deb

Seems to me it wouldn’t be much different than any other taxidermy.
Only one way to find out…

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Decatur Deb  Nov 29, 2017 • 8:39:57pm

re: #120 Jebediah, RBG

Seems to me it wouldn’t be much different than any other taxidermy.
Only one way to find out…

Have you priced the lotion recently?

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Jason Munro  Nov 29, 2017 • 8:40:22pm

re: #115 Decatur Deb

Holy hell (pun intended). I forgot my golden rule for LGF vids: “don’t watch the videos unless they are happy fun time” - because now I’m fuming. I guess this pastor and Roy “kid-didlin” Moore are getting a jump on the Johnson amendment repeal that is a part of the “tax cut, cut, fuck poor people” bill.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 29, 2017 • 8:41:39pm

re: #122 Jason Munro

Yup.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2017 • 8:41:51pm

You know though. I’m old enough to remember when Moore was too fringe for the GOP when he had his whole 10 commandments stunt. Sure, I knew some wingnuts who liked what he was doing but I don’t think anyone thought that the guy should be a Senator.

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De Kolta Chair  Nov 29, 2017 • 8:42:25pm

Fuck white people. Signed, a white person

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2017 • 8:44:13pm

What I’m honestly re: #125 De Kolta Chair

Fuck white people. Signed, a really pale guy

Gillespie tried to attack Northam on this here in Virginia. Didn’t work fortunately but we’re not Alabama.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 29, 2017 • 8:46:09pm

re: #125 De Kolta Chair

Fuck white people. Signed, a white person

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jaunte  Nov 29, 2017 • 8:49:53pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 29, 2017 • 8:51:26pm
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FormerDirtDart  Nov 29, 2017 • 8:54:27pm
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jaunte  Nov 29, 2017 • 8:57:21pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2017 • 8:58:56pm

re: #128 jaunte

A man’s man who was hated by the men who served under him and who also has a thing for high school girls.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2017 • 8:59:33pm

re: #130 FormerDirtDart

It’s worse than Katrina.

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Belafon  Nov 29, 2017 • 9:00:13pm

re: #131 jaunte

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2017 • 9:00:16pm

re: #131 jaunte

Hey Roy, paranoia is never a good look.

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jaunte  Nov 29, 2017 • 9:00:43pm

re: #132 HappyWarrior

A judge who refuses to obey legal rulings that don’t go his way.

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allegro  Nov 29, 2017 • 9:01:31pm

re: #128 jaunte

A Moore supporter go up and yelled back “Moore is a man’s man.

Been hearing this term from my earliest memories. Always intended as a compliment. A manly man other (asshole) men look up to and want to emulate. John Wayne: Shooter of men! Spanker of women!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2017 • 9:01:39pm

re: #136 jaunte

A judge who refuses to obey legal rulings that don’t go his way.

A pathetic whiny baby who wants a Christian version of Sharia.

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Targetpractice  Nov 29, 2017 • 9:02:21pm

re: #129 Joe Bacon 🌹

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The reality that Politico is in denial about: The only reason the country isn’t more off the rails is because Trump is constrained by the very laws he and the GOP are working to undermine and ultimately overturn.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 29, 2017 • 9:02:36pm

re: #138 HappyWarrior

A pathetic whiny baby who wants a Christian version of Sharia.

Depends. How old is Sharia?

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jaunte  Nov 29, 2017 • 9:02:36pm

The senate doesn’t need a shorteyes scofflaw.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2017 • 9:02:40pm

re: #137 allegro

Been hearing this term from my earliest memories. Always intended as a compliment. A manly man other (asshole) men look up to and want to emulate. John Wayne: Shooter of men! Spanker of women!

I always thought old time actors like Gregory Peck were cooler than John Wayne anyhow. Greg didn’t have to change his name either.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2017 • 9:03:31pm

re: #140 Decatur Deb

Depends. How old is Sharia?

I think she’s taking her SATs next week. She has cheerleading practice on Friday tho.

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jaunte  Nov 29, 2017 • 9:04:43pm

re: #140 Decatur Deb

They keep trying to find her in north Texas, but she hasn’t been born yet.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 29, 2017 • 9:05:10pm

re: #137 allegro

Been hearing this term from my earliest memories. Always intended as a compliment. A manly man other (asshole) men look up to and want to emulate. John Wayne: Shooter of men! Spanker of women!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2017 • 9:06:43pm

re: #145 Decatur Deb

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Racist asshole too.

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mmmirele  Nov 29, 2017 • 9:07:11pm

re: #102 FormerDirtDart

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Yeah, Ashford U tried some shenanigans here in Arizona by opening a “campus” here and trying to get “accredited” enough by Arizona so that they could bypass California’s requirements. And Governor Ducey’s people were involved. The whole thing kind of fell apart when the VA said it would still require Ashford to be approved by California.

phoenixnewtimes.com

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2017 • 9:09:19pm

I still love what James Garner another cool actor said about Reagan in part since it reminded me of my grandpa saying he didn’t even think Reagan was a good actor anyhow. I’d actually cast Clint to play Grandpa though haha. Grandpa was one of a kind though. Unlike Trump he actually did tell it as he saw it and was a living person.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Nov 29, 2017 • 9:10:56pm

re: #145 Decatur Deb

My dad loves Westerns, but boy, he hated John Wayne with a passion.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 29, 2017 • 9:11:41pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2017 • 9:12:07pm

re: #149 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

My dad loves Westerns, but boy, he hated John Wayne with a passion.

Even though he was staunchly conservative, I do like Jimmy Stewart. A real hero too. Marion just played one.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 29, 2017 • 9:12:34pm

re: #149 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

My dad loves Westerns, but boy, he hated John Wayne with a passion.

I’m so old I remember when John Wayne played a villain. (Ship wrecker in Reap the Wild Wind.)

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 29, 2017 • 9:13:07pm

re: #145 Decatur Deb

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The original Sally Bowes in Cabaret…

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whitebeach  Nov 29, 2017 • 9:14:08pm

re: #139 Targetpractice

The reality that Politico is in denial about: The only reason the country isn’t more off the rails is because Trump is constrained by the very laws he and the GOP are working to undermine and ultimately overturn.

I think the politico quote is actually meant to be a take-off on the snark often attributed to Mark Twain, that “Wagner’s music, I am told, isn’t nearly as bad as it sounds.” (Twain himself and contemporaneous sources credited this to the western humorist Edgar Wilson “Bill” Nye. That’s right, a Bill Nye way back then channeling reality.)

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Decatur Deb  Nov 29, 2017 • 9:14:09pm

re: #153 Joe Bacon 🌹

The original Sally Bowes in Cabaret…

Yup, but Karen in Exodus at about that age.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2017 • 9:14:49pm

The only Wayne films I honestly like are The Searchers and Quiet Man and the latter is because he plays an Irishman from Pittsburgh in Mayo near where I have family. I don’t find Wayne believable ad a Connemara man though but John Ford I guess did.

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allegro  Nov 29, 2017 • 9:15:06pm

re: #148 HappyWarrior

I still love what James Garner another cool actor said about Reagan in part since it reminded me of my grandpa saying he didn’t even think Reagan was a good actor anyhow. I’d actually cast Clint to play Grandpa though haha. Grandpa was one of a kind though. Unlike Trump he actually did tell it as he saw it and was a living person.

My mom dated James Garner when they were both students at U. of Oklahoma. My dad got mucho mileage outa that. (He was a very secure man.)

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Decatur Deb  Nov 29, 2017 • 9:16:38pm

re: #156 HappyWarrior

The only Wayne films I honestly like are The Searchers and Quiet Man and the latter is because he plays an Irishman from Pittsburgh in Mayo near where I have family. I don’t find Wayne believable ad a Connemara man though but John Ford I guess did.

To give him and Ford their due, She Wore a Yellow Ribbon was a self-conscious masterpiece.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 29, 2017 • 9:17:15pm

re: #88 Interesting Times

Is it something in the water down there? -_-

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I live in a Congressional district that was represented by old-style Republicans for decades: pro-choice, pro-environment. In 2006, we had a biracial Democratic challenger who hoped to win by bringing out the African American vote in the suburb of Waukegan. Despite substantial effort by the party, the vote was still low and the candidate lost in a close race. My sister who pollwatched in the district discovered that many of the residents actually did not have an official home; they lived with friends and did not know where they were registered to vote. We underestimate the effect of instability in the lives of the poor on their ability to participate in the political realm.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2017 • 9:17:39pm

re: #157 allegro

My mom dated James Garner when they were both students at U. of Oklahoma. My dad got mucho mileage outa that. (He was a very secure man.)

Just as my Moms Dad danced with Gene Kelly, Dad’s Dad’s frat brother at Pitt. That’s awesome though. I loved Garner as Henley in The Great Escape.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2017 • 9:18:00pm

re: #158 Decatur Deb

To give him and Ford their due, She Wore a Yellow Ribbon was a self-conscious masterpiece.

Still need to see that.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 29, 2017 • 9:19:46pm

re: #159 Hecuba’s daughter

I live in a Congressional district that was represented by old-style Republicans for decades: pro-choice, pro-environment. In 2006, we had a biracial Democratic challenger who hoped to win by bringing out the African American vote in the suburb of Waukegan. Despite substantial effort by the party, the vote was still low and the candidate lost in a close race. My sister who pollwatched in the district discovered that many of the residents actually did not have an official home; they lived with friends and did not know where they were registered to vote. We underestimate the effect of instability in the lives of the poor on their ability to participate in the political realm.

Very true. That makes it very difficult and important to constantly update the Votebuilder data base.

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Stanley Sea  Nov 29, 2017 • 9:21:12pm

Apologize if posted.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2017 • 9:22:37pm

re: #163 Stanley Sea

Apologize if posted.

No didn’t see that, thanks.

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teleskiguy  Nov 29, 2017 • 9:22:58pm

Had to go to orientation for the new ski area job I got today, so it’s been a very light internet day for me.

I’m back, looking at stuff online.

I feel like Colonel Fitz in “American Beauty” when his son asks “What’s new in the world, dad?”

This world is going straight to hell.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 29, 2017 • 9:26:22pm

re: #165 teleskiguy

…This world is going straight to hell.

“What matters most is how well you walk through the fire.”
—Bukowski

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teleskiguy  Nov 29, 2017 • 9:27:06pm

Jumping fucking shitballs Fuckface Von Clownstick’s Twitter feed! What a nightmare. The worst I’ve ever seen it. And it will get worse!

Goddamnit!

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TedStriker  Nov 29, 2017 • 9:28:01pm

re: #156 HappyWarrior

The only Wayne films I honestly like are The Searchers and Quiet Man and the latter is because he plays an Irishman from Pittsburgh in Mayo near where I have family. I don’t find Wayne believable ad a Connemara man though but John Ford I guess did.

TBH, Hellfighters is probably my favorite John Wayne flick; besides The Quiet Man, it’s the only movie of his I’ll watch anytime it’s on (and will sometimes put on myself when I’m in the mood). Something about the interplay between Wayne, Jim Hutton, Vera Miles, Katharine Ross, and Jay Flippen makes it for me.

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teleskiguy  Nov 29, 2017 • 9:32:02pm
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whitebeach  Nov 29, 2017 • 9:38:49pm

re: #156 HappyWarrior

The only Wayne films I honestly like are The Searchers and Quiet Man and the latter is because he plays an Irishman from Pittsburgh in Mayo near where I have family. I don’t find Wayne believable ad a Connemara man though but John Ford I guess did.

You can’t help but watch Quiet Man, it’s like one of those haunting “Irish” ballads from Tin Pan Alley. It’s full of wonderful character actors and of course Maureen, as well as full of endearing cliches of life in Ireland written for Americans. To me, Wayne is actually the weakest link in the film. I sometimes wonder what another, better actor (or movie star) would have done with the part: Mitchum, maybe, or a young Gable. I don’t even want to think about DeNiro.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Nov 29, 2017 • 9:42:24pm

re: #163 Stanley Sea

I do have one question, though. A tractor-trailer’s side mirror is awfully high for it to hit someone in the head who is standing by the side of the road. Am I wrong in visualizing that as not probable?

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allegro  Nov 29, 2017 • 9:43:01pm

Confession: I have patted a few male fannies over the years. I never heard a complaintre: #170 whitebeach

You can’t help but watch Quiet Man, it’s like one of those haunting “Irish” ballads from Tin Pan Alley. It’s full of wonderful character actors and of course Maureen, as well as full of endearing cliches of life in Ireland written for Americans. To me, Wayne is actually the weakest link in the film. I sometimes wonder what another, better actor (or movie star) would have done with the part: Mitchum, maybe, or a young Gable. I don’t even want to think about DeNiro.

I think Wayne was perfection in that role because he was John Wayne.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 29, 2017 • 9:44:25pm

re: #167 teleskiguy

Jumping fucking shitballs Fuckface Von Clownstick’s Twitter feed! What a nightmare. The worst I’ve ever seen it. And it will get worse!

Goddamnit!

It’s times like this that I’m glad that sleazy motherfather blocked me.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2017 • 9:46:07pm

re: #170 whitebeach

You can’t help but watch Quiet Man, it’s like one of those haunting “Irish” ballads from Tin Pan Alley. It’s full of wonderful character actors and of course Maureen, as well as full of endearing cliches of life in Ireland written for Americans. To me, Wayne is actually the weakest link in the film. I sometimes wonder what another, better actor (or movie star) would have done with the part: Mitchum, maybe, or a young Gable. I don’t even want to think about DeNiro.

Yeah it’s the romantic idea of Ireland and not the more gritty Ireland of Neil Jordan’s films. I actually saw the film while I studied in Galway. I do like the film because I identified with that romantic vision of Ireland that so many of us Irish Americans do. It’s not the real Ireland but you describe the appeal quite well. How about Peck though for the role? Wayne seemed too old for me in the film. It’s funny though. I think my O’Malley relatives are from the parish where the film was made.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2017 • 9:47:31pm

re: #172 allegro

Confession: I have patted a few male fannies over the years. I never heard a complaint

I think Wayne was perfection in that role because he was John Wayne.

I thought he was too old for the role honestly. He’s not bad but I see Wayne as a western type not a boxer from Pittsburgh.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 29, 2017 • 9:48:47pm

re: #170 whitebeach

… Mitchum, maybe, or a young Gable. I don’t even want to think about DeNiro.

Anthony Quinn.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2017 • 9:49:29pm

I like The Searchers because it’s a Lea romantic portrayal of the West. My favorite Western? Little Big Man. My brother and I talked. It definitely inspired our especially his interest in Native American culture.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 29, 2017 • 9:50:38pm

re: #176 Decatur Deb

Anthony Quinn.

Quinn does look more Connemara.

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allegro  Nov 29, 2017 • 9:50:50pm

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allegro  Nov 29, 2017 • 9:54:07pm

re: #176 Decatur Deb

Anthony Quinn.

Huh. Very interesting choice.

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The Major  Nov 29, 2017 • 9:56:22pm

TechCrunch: Meet the man who deactivated Trump’s Twitter account

As Twitter tries to figure out how to lock down the parts of its platform that enable harassment, as well as the spread of misleading information and illicit content, there have been a number of moments that highlight how the service, and its levers of control, are far from perfect.
One such moment took place earlier this month, when the very active, very watched Twitter account of President Donald Trump was abruptly deactivated for 11 minutes. The man responsible for those 11 minutes moved back home to Germany, and he agreed to speak to TechCrunch about what happened that day.
U.S. President Donald Trump long ago realized that you can use Twitter as an effective mouthpiece without all the pain and price of dealing with the media. Trump’s Twitter account (36.5K tweets and counting) has become one of the most popular ones out there today, with 43.5 million followers and growing by several hundred thousand a week. It’s also one of the most notorious, because of his flippant jokes, insults, rants and controversial retweets.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 29, 2017 • 10:00:33pm

re: #180 allegro

Huh. Very interesting choice.

But it wouldn’t have been a comedy.

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Stanley Sea  Nov 29, 2017 • 10:04:48pm

re: #156 HappyWarrior

The only Wayne films I honestly like are The Searchers and Quiet Man and the latter is because he plays an Irishman from Pittsburgh in Mayo near where I have family. I don’t find Wayne believable ad a Connemara man though but John Ford I guess did.

Major upding for The Searchers.

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allegro  Nov 29, 2017 • 10:05:27pm

re: #182 Decatur Deb

But it wouldn’t have been a comedy.

No kidding. I’m really playing that through in my head and coming up with a very different movie.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 29, 2017 • 10:48:39pm

re: #159 Hecuba’s daughter

I live in a Congressional district that was represented by old-style Republicans for decades: pro-choice, pro-environment. In 2006, we had a biracial Democratic challenger who hoped to win by bringing out the African American vote in the suburb of Waukegan. Despite substantial effort by the party, the vote was still low and the candidate lost in a close race. My sister who pollwatched in the district discovered that many of the residents actually did not have an official home; they lived with friends and did not know where they were registered to vote. We underestimate the effect of instability in the lives of the poor on their ability to participate in the political realm.

I don’t underestimate it. I was unable to vote at all from 1996-2008 due to homelessness. (I was married and secure again, but had not met the residency requirements to vote in the 2008 election.)

You can’t give your address as “my car” or “under the 11th Street Bridge” on a registration form.

For conservatives that is just fine. Better if you don’t own land, but you have to start rolling back voting rights somewhere.

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A Mom Anon  Nov 30, 2017 • 4:39:32am

re: #165 teleskiguy

Congrats on the new job!


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