The Bob Cesca Show: Celebrity Penis Party

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show:

Celebrity Penis Party: Not Safe For Work; Jacki Schechner from investigaterussia.org is here today; Matt Lauer and others accused of sexual harassment this week; Men behaving badly; Lindsey Graham on Trump; Trump’s stupid Rocket Man catchphrase; Trump circulated al Qaeda propaganda; Rex Tillerson might be forced out; Trump this Mueller will be done soon; Lawsuit heats up targeting Trump’s emoluments violations; The Starve The Beast strategy and the tax scam bill; and much more.

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477 comments

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jaunte  Nov 30, 2017 • 8:03:18pm
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Ace-o-aces  Nov 30, 2017 • 8:04:35pm

Hey, I just watched that Alex Jones clip from the previous thread…wow…meth or cocaine, which do you think he just took before going on air?

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Charles Johnson  Nov 30, 2017 • 8:04:38pm
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mmmirele  Nov 30, 2017 • 8:05:31pm

I got QL’ed.

Can we add disrespect for the rule of law and trial by jury to the list of Donald Trump’s high crimes and misdemeanors? This Trump tweet is infuriating me like crazy, because I was on a federal civil jury last month and I have enormous respect for jurors who have to make the hard decisions.

I am on the verge of a fit of apoplexy. I can’t even imagine being one of those jurors right now.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2017 • 8:05:58pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

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There’s that lovely right wing dehumanization again. Fucking assholes. I’ve known illegal immigrants. They are quite honestly some of the best people I know and I’d rather shaer my country with them than TRump and his death cult.

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jaunte  Nov 30, 2017 • 8:06:13pm
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Dr. Matt  Nov 30, 2017 • 8:06:21pm
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Charles Johnson  Nov 30, 2017 • 8:07:35pm
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Belafon  Nov 30, 2017 • 8:08:38pm

re: #7 Dr. Matt

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It can only fail white people.

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jaunte  Nov 30, 2017 • 8:10:29pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2017 • 8:11:33pm

re: #7 Dr. Matt

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The black people’s killers often don’t even so much as get indictments.

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jaunte  Nov 30, 2017 • 8:12:29pm
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Charles Johnson  Nov 30, 2017 • 8:14:11pm

The Rage Furby is having hallucinations again.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2017 • 8:15:30pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

The Rage Furby is having hallucinations again.

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Wonder what he’s trying ot do now. CAn’t be good.

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The Major  Nov 30, 2017 • 8:15:43pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

Someone should queue up a bunch of high IQ Blacks….

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 30, 2017 • 8:16:19pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

The Rage Furby is having hallucinations again.

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I’m guessing this is a scam in which you have to pay rage furby a fee to get the “job. “

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Dr. Matt  Nov 30, 2017 • 8:19:27pm

NOT The Onion:

Facebook

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 30, 2017 • 8:20:05pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

The Rage Furby is having hallucinations again.

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Lol! Cocaine is a hell of a drug.

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mmmirele  Nov 30, 2017 • 8:20:25pm

Brown noser

And of course my congresscritter, Andy Biggs, has his nose firmly up Trump’s back end. I let him have it.

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scottslemmons  Nov 30, 2017 • 8:20:31pm

Charles, did you get a poor, innocent patriot banned?

On the other hand, I can see all her posts just fine. So I’m not sure what the fuck she’s talking about.

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teleskiguy  Nov 30, 2017 • 8:22:49pm
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Stanley Sea  Nov 30, 2017 • 8:23:08pm
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Stanley Sea  Nov 30, 2017 • 8:23:59pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

The Rage Furby is having hallucinations again.

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500-1000 per day?

Must be illegal. Or he’s lying again.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2017 • 8:24:29pm

re: #22 Stanley Sea

Ryan doesn’t care.

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jaunte  Nov 30, 2017 • 8:25:23pm

re: #20 scottslemmons

I was going to help her ‘blast’ that, and share a Redstate article with her, but oh well.
redstate.com

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Belafon  Nov 30, 2017 • 8:26:49pm

re: #22 Stanley Sea

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Some Republicans know what would happen if Latino support drops to zero.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2017 • 8:28:08pm

re: #25 jaunte

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I was going to help her ‘blast’ that, and share a Redstate article with her, but oh well.
redstate.com

I hate it when Red State is a voice of reason but this is reasonable.

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jaunte  Nov 30, 2017 • 8:28:43pm

re: #27 HappyWarrior

Overton Window in the fast lane.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2017 • 8:29:08pm

re: #26 Belafon

Some Republicans know what would happen if Latino support drops to zero.

The stupid ones don’t care or are in districts or states that will go Republican no matter what.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2017 • 8:30:15pm

re: #28 jaunte

Overton Window in the fast lane.

Not familiar with the concept but sure.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 30, 2017 • 8:30:17pm
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teleskiguy  Nov 30, 2017 • 8:30:23pm

re: #28 jaunte

Overton Window in the fast fat lane.

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Belafon  Nov 30, 2017 • 8:30:34pm

re: #25 jaunte

One quick but important note: Garcia Zarate is not going free. The jury did convict him of a lesser charge of being a felon in possession of a gun, and he now awaits sentencing, which will be 16 months, two years, or three years in state prison. He has already served two years and will get credit for that time, but even if he is not given the maximum sentence, there is an outstanding U.S. Marshals Service warrant against him, and despite the sanctuary cities policy, San Francisco apparently does turn over undocumented immigrants to the feds when they have a warrant. So he is either getting deported, or spending one more year in prison first, and then getting deported.

What, libtards will follow the law if the law is followed. Who knew? //

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Charles Johnson  Nov 30, 2017 • 8:30:41pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2017 • 8:30:53pm

I feel awful for her family I truly do but reading about the case, this wasn’t a murder.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 30, 2017 • 8:31:25pm

re: #28 jaunte

Overton Window in the fast lane.

overton window done fell off the edge of the world - where it says “here be monsters”

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whitebeach  Nov 30, 2017 • 8:31:41pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

The Rage Furby is having hallucinations again.

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Oh man, I’m so tempted to sign on for this, except that I still have to be here for my old mom and I don’t think I’d ever see a dime of the money anyway. What if I just sent him a text that says “HAVE GUN WILL TRAVEL. WIRE WHITEBEACH BOSSIER PARISH”?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2017 • 8:31:48pm

re: #33 Belafon

What, libtards will follow the law if the law is followed. Who knew? //

They have no idea what SF is actually like only what right wing propaganda tells them.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 30, 2017 • 8:31:57pm

re: #31 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

Scott Dworkin has no credibility.

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jaunte  Nov 30, 2017 • 8:32:22pm

re: #33 Belafon

They want someone to be hung, or electrocuted, or drawn and quartered. Also a big, stupid wall.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 30, 2017 • 8:32:43pm

re: #39 Charles Johnson

Scott Dworkin has no credibility.

ya i had some vague memory of that

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2017 • 8:34:16pm

The way the right is reacting to this case is how we’ve gotten lynchings in the past and Trump I think would have no problem at all if someone killed Zarate tomorrow.

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Weaselone  Nov 30, 2017 • 8:35:35pm

re: #25 jaunte

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I was going to help her ‘blast’ that, and share a Redstate article with her, but oh well.
redstate.com

Holy cow. That’s a pretty decent article.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 30, 2017 • 8:36:03pm

mulvany:

“We’re going to try and limit as much as we can what the CFPB does to sort of interfere with capitalism and with the financial services market.”

2008 crash redux, here we come

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2017 • 8:37:36pm

Remember how mad the right got when Obama said if he had a son, he’d look like Trayvon Martin?

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 30, 2017 • 8:38:00pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2017 • 8:38:01pm

re: #44 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

mulvany:

“We’re going to try and limit as much as we can what the CFPB does to sort of interfere with capitalism and with the financial services market.”

2008 crash redux, here we come

Good grief.

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Belafon  Nov 30, 2017 • 8:38:04pm

re: #44 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

mulvany:

“We’re going to try and limit as much as we can what the CFPB does to sort of interfere with capitalism and with the financial services market.”

2008 crash redux, here we come

“If the market doesn’t crash, then how will the wealthy buy out the poor for cheap?”

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 30, 2017 • 8:38:53pm
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 30, 2017 • 8:39:12pm

re: #39 Charles Johnson

Scott Dworkin has no credibility.

still, he is not the only one retailing these vague rumors

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2017 • 8:39:48pm

re: #46 FormerDirtDart

It’s called relevant evidence. You should try learning about it FNC instead of crying about the Clintons, lefty college students, or Happy Holidays.

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Unshaken Defiance  Nov 30, 2017 • 8:39:58pm

Pepper has her say

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Charles Johnson  Nov 30, 2017 • 8:40:55pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2017 • 8:42:44pm

re: #53 Charles Johnson

This is almost comic in how bad it is. These guys literally have no idea what they’re doing.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 30, 2017 • 8:42:45pm
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FormerDirtDart  Nov 30, 2017 • 8:43:43pm
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Stanley Sea  Nov 30, 2017 • 8:43:58pm

re: #43 Weaselone

Holy shit. That’s a pretty decent article.

I posted downstairs dead time that the last thing the jury did was each fire a gun like the one dropped. They obvs found it to be an easy trigger.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2017 • 8:44:20pm

To be fair, I bet the toilets have been having problems after we went from a president who eats like a grown man to a president who eats like a child.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 30, 2017 • 8:44:29pm

will resident rump ask for a translator when meeting w teresa may?

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Belafon  Nov 30, 2017 • 8:45:23pm

re: #53 Charles Johnson

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I think they had it replaced because a black man had been sitting on it.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2017 • 8:45:41pm

re: #57 Stanley Sea

I posted downstairs dead time that the last thing the jury did was each fire a gun like the one dropped. They obvs found it to be an easy trigger.

Which means the defense did its job too. I still remember people wanting to get rid of the prohibition on double jeopardy after Casey Anthony was acquitted.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 30, 2017 • 8:46:23pm
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jaunte  Nov 30, 2017 • 8:47:14pm

re: #62 Charles Johnson

Also: gold plated.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2017 • 8:48:10pm

I bet he peed on Michelle’s garden too.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 30, 2017 • 8:50:37pm

Shooting from a high-rise in Reno, Nev.

washingtonpost.com

Apparently, only one person was injured in the hand as shooting went on for more than an hour. The police killed the shooter, who apparently was holding a hostage in an apartment.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 30, 2017 • 8:52:07pm

The first two paragraphs of the article above:

A gunman was killed by police after he fired shots from an elevated position at a luxury apartment complex in downtown Reno, Nev., shortly before 7 p.m. Tuesday, police said. Barricaded in a room on the eighth floor of the high-rise building, the shooter sent bullets raining onto the street below.

No other casualties have been reported, except for a woman who was injured in the hand, the Sparks Police Department said in a news release. She did not need medical treatment.

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jaunte  Nov 30, 2017 • 8:53:52pm

re: #65 Anymouse 🌹

“It appears that the gunman acted alone,* police said.”

*Not counting NRA lobbying.

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Stanley Sea  Nov 30, 2017 • 8:54:23pm

re: #53 Charles Johnson

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 30, 2017 • 8:54:42pm

re: #64 HappyWarrior

I bet he peed on Michelle’s garden too.

Now, now.
We all know that President Trump doesn’t go around peeing on things.

He prefers to be peed on.
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FormerDirtDart  Nov 30, 2017 • 8:56:14pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 30, 2017 • 8:56:31pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 30, 2017 • 8:59:11pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2017 • 9:01:18pm

re: #70 FormerDirtDart

This fucking party.

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teleskiguy  Nov 30, 2017 • 9:01:33pm

re: #68 Stanley Sea

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Targetpractice  Nov 30, 2017 • 9:02:51pm

re: #46 FormerDirtDart

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This really is the entirety of their “case” against the man: ”He’s an illegal, thus he’s guilty!” They don’t feel that they have to present an actual case showing his guilt, they feel it should be self-evident because of his race. Thus they justice has “failed” not because the prosecution’s case was found wanting, but because a Latino man avoided LWOP or worse.

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teleskiguy  Nov 30, 2017 • 9:04:51pm

South Park spoiler ahead.

So the South Park universe will have to go on without Canada. President Garrison nuked Canada.

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jaunte  Nov 30, 2017 • 9:05:28pm

“Morally reprehensible.”

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Targetpractice  Nov 30, 2017 • 9:07:33pm

re: #77 jaunte

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“Morally reprehensible.”

Because their party’s orthodoxy has chained them to the belief that only the rich can give money to the middle class, and the only way to make that happen is to give the rich as much money as possible. Even if that means actively picking the pockets of the poor and working class to do so.

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Stanley Sea  Nov 30, 2017 • 9:10:57pm

re: #75 Targetpractice

This really is the entirety of their “case” against the man: ”He’s an illegal, thus he’s guilty!” They don’t feel that they have to present an actual case showing his guilt, they feel it should be self-evident because of his race. Thus they justice has “failed” not because the prosecution’s case was found wanting, but because a Latino man avoided LWOP or worse.

And they cannot connect the word ricochet to the event.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 30, 2017 • 9:14:58pm

Republicans have been on this “trickle-down” economics kick for a long time, as William Jennings Bryan (D-NE) noted in his “Cross of Gold” speech at the Democratic National Convention in 1896.

There are two ideas of government. There are those who believe that if you just legislate to make the well-to-do prosperous, that their prosperity will leak through on those below. The Democratic idea has been that if you legislate to make the masses prosperous their prosperity will find its way up and through every class that rests upon it.

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Targetpractice  Nov 30, 2017 • 9:16:22pm

re: #79 Stanley Sea

And they cannot connect the word ricochet to the event.

In their minds, the only thing that matters is that he is an “illegal.” They feel that justice “failed” because that fact alone should have assured a guilty verdict. But that’s what happens when you attach political significance to a case like this, you have to have a favorable verdict or else people might question your beliefs.

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Targetpractice  Nov 30, 2017 • 9:18:40pm

re: #80 Anymouse 🌹

Republicans have been on this “trickle-down” economics kick for a long time, as William Jennings Bryan (D-NE) noted in his “Cross of Gold” speech at the Democratic National Convention in 1896.

And in the decades since, the Democratic ideal has worked more times than “trickle down” (or, more accurately, “voodoo economics”) ever has. When you give the poor and middle class money to spend, they will spend it readily on things they need and then on those they want. When you give that money to the rich, they generally sit on it or use it to secure greater wealth in whatever fashion is easiest. Once upon a time that might have been in expanding a business, but these days its in hedge funds and speculation.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 30, 2017 • 9:19:32pm

re: #76 teleskiguy

South Park spoiler ahead.

Spoiler response

Give it a season. They’ll pull a Bobby Ewing Dallas return. Someone will wake up, and it will all have been a dream.

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teleskiguy  Nov 30, 2017 • 9:23:14pm

re: #83 FormerDirtDart

I was kind of taken aback when they made Terrance and Phillip geriatrics. Maybe they’re establishing a time warp like in Back To The Future Pt. II.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 30, 2017 • 9:25:06pm

re: #84 teleskiguy

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I haven’t watched in years actually. I have no idea what’s going on

lol

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2017 • 9:25:44pm

re: #82 Targetpractice

And in the decades since, the Democratic ideal has worked more times than “trickle down” (or, more accurately, “voodoo economics”) ever has. When you give the poor and middle class money to spend, they will spend it readily on things they need and then on those they want. When you give that money to the rich, they generally sit on it or use it to secure greater wealth in whatever fashion is easiest. Once upon a time that might have been in expanding a business, but these days its in hedge funds and speculation.

Absolutely trickle down economics simply doesn’t workz

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Targetpractice  Nov 30, 2017 • 9:29:50pm

It wasn’t even a decade ago that most of the nimrods presently pressing to give the working class a tax cut were declaring in the same voice that what we really needed was to “broaden the tax base” because too many folks were getting a free ride. Remember that? All the doomsaying about how “51% don’t pay taxes and people will just vote themselves more money!”

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 30, 2017 • 9:29:54pm
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Stanley Sea  Nov 30, 2017 • 9:30:22pm

hat tip, do not opine till you know wtf you are talking about.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 30, 2017 • 9:31:47pm

“… The board at 445 Fifth Ave. — where one-bedrooms go for just under $1 million — wanted the library to pay in exchange for being allowed to put up scaffolding.

The library offered the building a reduced $3,500-a-month fee, according to a library source, but the board was still saying, “We want more, more, more.”

A lawyer for the condo board did not return a message seeking comment. “

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Stanley Sea  Nov 30, 2017 • 9:35:37pm

re: #89 Stanley Sea

Fucking A, anyone who followed this knew the sketchy circumstances of her death.

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jaunte  Nov 30, 2017 • 9:37:41pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2017 • 9:41:33pm

re: #92 jaunte

Can we stop legitimizing this loser?

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 30, 2017 • 9:42:25pm

Steve Mnuchin’s Dog Ate His Tax Plan Analysis (lol for the headline, goes to Vanity Fair)

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2017 • 9:43:22pm

re: #89 Stanley Sea

hat tip, do not opine till you know wtf you are talking about.

People who don’t understand how trials work think juries should just follow their gut. It’s beyond a reasonable doubt for a damn good reason.

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allegro  Nov 30, 2017 • 9:45:33pm

re: #91 Stanley Sea

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allegro  Nov 30, 2017 • 9:46:42pm

re: #92 jaunte

So they only show the first row cuz those are the only seats occupied?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 30, 2017 • 9:48:32pm

Just the thought of being in a Federal shutdown starting next Friday brings back BAD memories of the 5 weeks we had to work from Thanksgiving 1995 past New Years Day and not get paid.

Still remember all the upset coworkers who cancelled Christmas for their children because that piece of shit GinGRINCH threw a temper tantrum…

And now we have a GinGRINCH on steroids in the rat and roach infested White House…

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 30, 2017 • 9:49:11pm

They want a murder conviction? Simple: Stonekettle has already weighed in on this. Change the gun laws.

There are no accidents with guns. You can be shown to have mishandled a gun, murder charge if you kill someone. Property damage? Off to jail.

Heaven forfend someone pass a law like that. So we go with the law we have, and that law says it was accidental and thus not murder.

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Kragar  Nov 30, 2017 • 9:49:58pm
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Charles Johnson  Nov 30, 2017 • 9:51:29pm

The Rage Furby’s job offer just got even creepier.

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Stanley Sea  Nov 30, 2017 • 9:52:22pm

re: #96 allegro

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2017 • 9:52:29pm

re: #100 Kragar

We’re talking about a guy who endorsed a guy who claimed his dad killed JFK. Cruz’s father is an as big asshole as he is but still.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 30, 2017 • 9:54:18pm

re: #101 Charles Johnson

What’s Ginger Snapped’s idea of “High IQ”? Is it just past single digits?

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 30, 2017 • 9:54:52pm

re: #101 Charles Johnson

The Rage Furby’s job offer just got even creepier.

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What is he trying to build, a steam-powered rocket to prove the earth is flat?

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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 30, 2017 • 9:55:05pm

re: #99 Anymouse 🌹

Underlying this outrage is the idea that there should be different standards of guilt for different kinds of folk.

This is just a different version of the same differance Trump evoked when he declared the Central Park Five a priori guilty and deserving of death, and that plays out every fucking time the color chart is pulled out after a mass killing.

The rule behind the rule is that “the law” applies as the wingnuts demand. Which explains their simultaneous fear of a police state and cheering of police state tactics so long as they’re applied to The Wrong Kind of People. It also applies to the connected issue of who gets to use a firearm how, and who’s a “threat” that can be killed outright.

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retired cynic  Nov 30, 2017 • 9:55:35pm

re: #106 The Ghost of a Flea

Underlying this outrage is the idea that there should be different standards of guilt for different kinds of folk.

This is just a different version of the same differance Trump evoked when he declared the Central Park Five a priori guilty and deserving of death, and that plays out every fucking time the color chart is pulled out after a mass killing.

The rule behind the rule is that “the law” applies as the wingnuts demand. Which explains their simultaneous fear of a police state and cheering of police state tactics so long as they’re applied to The Wrong Kind of People. It also applies to the connected issue of who gets to use a firearm how, and who’s a “threat” that can be killed outright.

That’s it!!

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allegro  Nov 30, 2017 • 9:55:56pm

re: #102 Stanley Sea

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 30, 2017 • 9:56:46pm

There was a candidate who warned this guy about that:

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whitebeach  Nov 30, 2017 • 9:58:17pm

re: #97 allegro

So they only show the first row cuz those are the only seats occupied?

One of the first photography texts I ever read showed exactly how this works. If there’s a small crowd and you want to make the speaker look important, shoot from the side along the first one or two rows, which will generally be full. If you want to make the speaker look insignificant, shoot from the rear of the venue or from behind the speaker, showing all the empty seats. There are countless other tactics like this. The camera may not lie, but the photographer can certainly make it say diametrically different things about the same event. And that doesn’t even count Photoshop and other editing tools.

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Kragar  Nov 30, 2017 • 9:58:36pm

re: #101 Charles Johnson

Anyone with above room temperature IQ knows Chuck will never actually pay them

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Targetpractice  Nov 30, 2017 • 9:59:30pm

re: #109 Anymouse 🌹

There was a candidate who warned this guy about that:

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These morons have nobody to blame but themselves. They were told aloud that their jobs weren’t being saved, but they blew off the warnings because they wanted to believe a fantasy that the conman was selling them. So now they find out they’re gonna be jobless in time for Christmas and they feel “betrayed.”

I’m gonna guess that all those who bought into that fantasy of their jobs being “saved” have little or nothing saved up for the eventuality that they’d be laid off. They’re now going to go into the holidays worried less about how they’re going to buy presents and more about how they’re gonna keep their homes come next year.

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teleskiguy  Nov 30, 2017 • 10:00:26pm

re: #101 Charles Johnson

A lot of vicious serial killers got their start and buried their bodies in the PNW. Just sayin’.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2017 • 10:00:47pm

re: #109 Anymouse 🌹

There was a candidate who warned this guy about that:

He was warned. Now I hope he uses his frustration and anger to get the Dotard out.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2017 • 10:01:27pm

re: #113 teleskiguy

A lot of vicious serial killers got their start and buried their bodies in the PNW. Just sayin’.

Yeah Seattle has a lot of prolific serial killers.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2017 • 10:03:40pm

re: #112 Targetpractice

These morons have nobody to blame but themselves. They were told aloud that their jobs weren’t being saved, but they blew off the warnings because they wanted to believe a fantasy that the conman was selling them. So now they find out they’re gonna be jobless in time for Christmas and they feel “betrayed.”

I’m gonna guess that all those who bought into that fantasy of their jobs being “saved” have little or nothing saved up for the eventuality that they’d be laid off. They’re now going to go into the holidays worried less about how they’re going to buy presents and more about how they’re gonna keep their homes come next year.

It’s hard for me to be too sympathetic too because these people didn’t care about people who have been the targets of the worst of this administration and they didn’t want to listen as you say.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 30, 2017 • 10:04:30pm

re: #112 Targetpractice

These morons have nobody to blame but themselves. They were told aloud that their jobs weren’t being saved, but they blew off the warnings because they wanted to believe a fantasy that the conman was selling them. So now they find out they’re gonna be jobless in time for Christmas and they feel “betrayed.”

I’m gonna guess that all those who bought into that fantasy of their jobs being “saved” have little or nothing saved up for the eventuality that they’d be laid off. They’re now going to go into the holidays worried less about how they’re going to buy presents and more about how they’re gonna keep their homes come next year.

Just like those deluded coal miners in Pennsylvania who refuse retraining skills because they believe the mines will reopen…

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 30, 2017 • 10:06:55pm

G’night y’all. See you later… .

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2017 • 10:08:37pm

re: #117 Joe Bacon 🌹

Just like those deluded coal miners in Pennsylvania who refuse retraining skills because they believe the mines will reopen…

You know that my mom’s grandfather’s were miners and that’s honesty why I don’t have a lot of sympathy. Grandpa knew the mines were in decline as early as ‘54 and he knew he didn’t want that life for him or his son. He took his GI Bill money and went to trade school. These guys are absolute fools for refusing to retrain.

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Targetpractice  Nov 30, 2017 • 10:09:54pm

re: #117 Joe Bacon 🌹

Just like those deluded coal miners in Pennsylvania who refuse retraining skills because they believe the mines will reopen…

Ayep, you go to Appalachia and you got goobers sitting around, absolutely convinced that the mine bosses are gonna start hiring up young men for lifetime jobs in the mines “any day now.” Meanwhile mine employment has been declining since the days of St. Ron of the Cloudy Memory.

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teleskiguy  Nov 30, 2017 • 10:11:23pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 30, 2017 • 10:12:38pm

For the record, I’m coping with all this shit by acquiring international cookbooks.

The measure of my frustration is how much geographic area I’ve covered since last January: Most of Central Asia, the Gulf States, the Levant, and a circumnavigation of the Mediterranean.

It’s healthier than drinking.

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DodgerFan1988  Nov 30, 2017 • 10:14:50pm

re: #42 HappyWarrior

The way the right is reacting to this case is how we’ve gotten lynchings in the past and Trump I think would have no problem at all if someone killed Zarate tomorrow.

Remember Brisenia Flores? The 9 year old hispanic girl murdered along with her father by Minutemen Militia. Where was the outrage on the Right?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2017 • 10:15:28pm

re: #120 Targetpractice

Ayep, you go to Appalachia and you got goobers sitting around, absolutely convinced that the mine bosses are gonna start hiring up young men for lifetime jobs in the mines “any day now.” Meanwhile mine employment has been declining since the days of St. Ron of the Cloudy Memory.

My grandmother is honestly stumped why anyone would want a lifetime in the mines. Her dad didn’t work in the mines out of love for the mines. It was one of the few jobs he could do.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2017 • 10:15:55pm

re: #123 DodgerFan1988

Remember Brisenia Flores? The 9 year old hispanic girl murdered along with her father by Minutemen Militia. Where was the outrage on the Right?

I do. That story broke my heart.

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BeachDem  Nov 30, 2017 • 10:18:46pm

re: #120 Targetpractice

Ayep, you go to Appalachia and you got goobers sitting around, absolutely convinced that the mine bosses are gonna start hiring up young men for lifetime jobs in the mines “any day now.” Meanwhile mine employment has been declining since the days of St. Ron of the Cloudy Memory.

They’re closing down the textile mill across the railroad tracks
Foreman says these jobs are going boys and they ain’t coming back
To your hometown

—19 fucking 85.

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TedStriker  Nov 30, 2017 • 10:18:51pm

re: #121 teleskiguy

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It’s been twenty years since Friday came out…damn, I feel old.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 30, 2017 • 10:20:31pm

re: #104 Joe Bacon 🌹

What’s Ginger Snapped’s idea of “High IQ”? Is it just past single digits?

He means wypipo.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2017 • 10:20:55pm

Re reading the Flores case. Man I wanna cry because I can see my niece in that little girl.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 30, 2017 • 10:21:12pm

re: #111 Kragar

Anyone with above room temperature IQ knows Chuck will never actually pay them

He expects them to pay HIM.

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majii  Nov 30, 2017 • 10:25:57pm

re: #123 DodgerFan1988

“Remember Brisenia Flores? The 9 year old hispanic girl murdered along with her father by Minutemen Militia. Where was the outrage on the Right?”

Remember how the right was outraged and calling for the deaths of Shawna Ford, Jason Bush, and Albert Gaxiola?

It never happened. They acted as if they didn’t know them or the other members of the Minutemen Militia. They did the same thing when Neo-Nazi JT Ready killed four persons in Arizona, one of them a one year old baby girl. I have to give them credit for their ability to display selective outrage.

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Targetpractice  Nov 30, 2017 • 10:33:22pm

re: #124 HappyWarrior

My grandmother is honestly stumped why anyone would want a lifetime in the mines. Her dad didn’t work in the mines out of love for the mines. It was one of the few jobs he could do.

The honest answer is most of these guys want those jobs because they’re the best they’re likely to secure with little or no formal education past a high school diploma/GED. The factories are going away and farm jobs are not steady enough to make a living off of unless you own part of the farm. In a big city they might be able to get menial jobs doing manual labor, but out in the small towns or Appalachia, even those jobs are hard to come by. So they take to the mines for the same reason their daddies did and their daddies before them: Because it’s a job that’s steady, pays well enough, and you don’t need to be smart to do it.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2017 • 10:36:40pm

re: #132 Targetpractice

The honest answer is most of these guys want those jobs because they’re the best they’re likely to secure with little or no formal education past a high school diploma/GED. The factories are going away and farm jobs are not steady enough to make a living off of unless you own part of the farm. In a big city they might be able to get menial jobs doing manual labor, but out in the small towns or Appalachia, even those jobs are hard to come by. So they take to the mines for the same reason their daddies did and their daddies before them: Because it’s a job that’s steady, pays well enough, and you don’t need to be smart to do it.

Oh for sure but what stumps Grandma is that it kills you so young. Her dad was barely able to walk when he died. Black lung. He was actually a healthy man outside his lungs. I blame the mines for why my mom and uncle never got to meet him.

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Targetpractice  Nov 30, 2017 • 10:40:13pm

re: #133 HappyWarrior

Oh for sure but what stumps Grandma is that it kills you so young. Her dad was barely able to walk when he died. Black lung. He was actually a healthy man outside his lungs. I blame the mines for why my mom and uncle never got to meet him.

Three words: “young and dumb.” The promise of a steady job that pays well right of high school? “I’ll just quit when something better comes along” is what they tell themselves up until they’re too broken up by job-related ailments to work.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2017 • 10:42:14pm

re: #134 Targetpractice

Three words: “young and dumb.” The promise of a steady job that pays well right of high school? “I’ll just quit when something better comes along” is what they tell themselves up until they’re too broken up by job-related ailments to work.

True. Anyhow with that it’s sleep time.

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Cheechako  Nov 30, 2017 • 10:48:23pm

re: #101 Charles Johnson

The Rage Furby’s job offer just got even creepier.

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Cash in advance? Who am I kidding.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 30, 2017 • 10:55:24pm
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JordanRules  Nov 30, 2017 • 11:01:33pm
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freetoken  Nov 30, 2017 • 11:39:27pm

One thing that has been troubling the past few months is how Trump’s “Fake News!” meme is now being rooted outside of just his wingnut followers.

It seems like several second-rate academics and a lot of meme-ing opportunists have taken a liking to this idea of Trump.

And I don’t mean the self-labeled “conservatives.”

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teleskiguy  Nov 30, 2017 • 11:53:34pm

Aging little-known jam band still retweets the old way. Heh.

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Kragar  Nov 30, 2017 • 11:54:29pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 1, 2017 • 12:08:08am

Our excellent Israeli vacation is coming to an end (as all good things must), our flight home departs on Saturday night. Tonight and tomorrow we will enjoy a quiet family Sabbath with our daughter and her family.

Zedushka has returned to his old self. Last night we went to a steakhouse just a few blocks from our hotel. Then he wanted to take a stroll and window shop the art galleries. Even though we both use canes and walking can be difficult, before we knew it we were at the Mamila Mall which leads into the Old City.

Mamila is an upscale shopping mall that caters to mostly tourists but also window-shopping locals. It was nice to see Jews, Arabs and international visitors all shopping and strolling together.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 1, 2017 • 12:14:19am

re: #124 HappyWarrior

My grandmother is honestly stumped why anyone would want a lifetime in the mines. Her dad didn’t work in the mines out of love for the mines. It was one of the few jobs he could do.

well, that is the problem. they are too undereducated and poorly trained.

but for that, they are convinced that if we just allow Trump to rid us of bothersome environmental, health and safety regulations, those well-paid mining jobs will come roaring back…without the need for meddlesome unions

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DodgerFan1988  Dec 1, 2017 • 1:02:00am

re: #131 majii

“Remember Brisenia Flores? The 9 year old hispanic girl murdered along with her father by Minutemen Militia. Where was the outrage on the Right?”

Remember how the right was outraged and calling for the deaths of Shawna Ford, Jason Bush, and Albert Gaxiola?

It never happened. They acted as if they didn’t know them or the other members of the Minutemen Militia. They did the same thing when Neo-Nazi JT Ready killed four persons in Arizona, one of them a one year old baby girl. I have to give them credit for their ability to display selective outrage.

Former Arizona governor Jan Brewer use to be Facebook friends with Shawna Forde and JT Ready, then unfriended them after the murders trying to pretend she didn’t know who there were, like the weasel she is.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 1, 2017 • 1:07:07am

re: #131 majii

“Remember Brisenia Flores? The 9 year old hispanic girl murdered along with her father by Minutemen Militia. Where was the outrage on the Right?”

Remember how the right was outraged and calling for the deaths of Shawna Ford, Jason Bush, and Albert Gaxiola?

It never happened. They acted as if they didn’t know them or the other members of the Minutemen Militia. They did the same thing when Neo-Nazi JT Ready killed four persons in Arizona, one of them a one year old baby girl. I have to give them credit for their ability to display selective outrage.

an ex-girlfriend moved with her hubby to the border region near Douglas, AZ back in the 80’s. It was a bit like No Country for Old Men; what used to be a sleepy backwater turned into the front line in a major drug war and a major human trafficking route.

Last I heard, her hubby had joined the AZ militia and erected a 30-foot observation tower on their property.

For that, I also heard that they have been enriched by a number of abandoned SUVs found on their property: the coyotes run them as far as they can, then proceed on foot. They report them to the police, but if nobody comes to claim them within 60 days (and nobody does), they get to keep them.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 1, 2017 • 1:54:34am
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Amory Blaine  Dec 1, 2017 • 2:46:41am

These days, I waffle between impotent rage and exhausting nihilism.

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Shropshire Slasher  Dec 1, 2017 • 4:07:15am
A fire stoked by 20 to 30 mph winds destroyed or damaged nearly two dozen downtown buildings and was traced to a man who was trying to forge a blade over a burning barrel, according to authorities.

timesunion.com

I think he has been watching too many Forged in Fire shows.

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Shropshire Slasher  Dec 1, 2017 • 4:08:17am

re: #147 Amory Blaine

Practice your diabolical laugh, it helps.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 1, 2017 • 4:31:33am

re: #147 Amory Blaine

These days, I waffle between impotent rage and exhausting nihilism.

slave to the nihilistic waffle light?

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 1, 2017 • 4:32:35am
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I cannot.  Dec 1, 2017 • 4:33:11am

I was arg…debating with a moro…customer the other day about the price a few different items the other day.

No, it would be 25% off this item, if this item was on sale…however, this item isn’t on sale, and it’s NOT this item, it’s THAT completely different item

Yay, holidays.

On the plus side, one of those items looks almost EXACTLY like a crystalline object my character in a D&D game will have, so I bought the thing to use as a prop in the game.

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Sea Mexican!  Dec 1, 2017 • 4:35:16am

re: #27 HappyWarrior

I hate it when Red State is a voice of reason but this is reasonable.

0_o

How many seals of the Apocalypse have already been broken? This one broke too.

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Teukka  Dec 1, 2017 • 4:37:05am

re: #153 Sea Mexican!

0_o

How many seals of the Apocalypse have already been broken? This one broke too.

*scans the horizon for horsemen*

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dangerman  Dec 1, 2017 • 4:42:16am

re: #49 Ace-o-aces

BREAKING: Conservative learns that when you read a real newspaper, instead of relying on Fox News, you can learn actual facts!

though many of the responding comments are as expected

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dangerman  Dec 1, 2017 • 4:47:59am

re: #81 Targetpractice

In their minds, the only thing that matters is that he is an “illegal.” They feel that justice “failed” because that fact alone should have assured a guilty verdict. But that’s what happens when you attach political significance to a case like this, you have to have a favorable verdict or else people might question your beliefs.

since he’s guilty of the crime of “illegal” he must be guilty of this one

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Dr. Matt  Dec 1, 2017 • 4:50:09am
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dangerman  Dec 1, 2017 • 4:50:46am

re: #95 HappyWarrior

People who don’t understand how trials work think juries should just follow their gut. It’s beyond a reasonable doubt for a damn good reason.

correct. their gut. not the jury’s

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Shropshire Slasher  Dec 1, 2017 • 4:51:03am

re: #155 dangerman

I hope once they find the Sig Sauer pistol guilty and responsible for this death get the death penalty and be melted down.

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dangerman  Dec 1, 2017 • 4:51:47am

re: #99 Anymouse 🌹

They want a murder conviction? Simple: Stonekettle has already weighed in on this. Change the gun laws.

There are no accidents with guns. You can be shown to have mishandled a gun, murder charge if you kill someone. Property damage? Off to jail.

Heaven forfend someone pass a law like that. So we go with the law we have, and that law says it was accidental and thus not murder.

^^^^^^^^^^++++++++++++++++++++++ !

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Lupin  Dec 1, 2017 • 4:59:56am

re: #147 Amory Blaine

These days, I waffle between impotent rage and exhausting nihilism.

I do think of my American friends as the children taken hostage in the basement while the drunk wife abuser is shouting random abuse at the passers-by while holding a gun outside.

I do wish there was a way to rescue you without having your country be put down but I’m not overly optimistic

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 1, 2017 • 5:06:29am

re: #72 Anymouse 🌹

Fox News viewers live in a very special bubble where propaganda is news and reality does not exist. If they watched cartoons all day, they’d probably be better off.

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Dr. Matt  Dec 1, 2017 • 5:12:15am

FFS. And Ryan supports Dotard.

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jeffreyw  Dec 1, 2017 • 5:19:03am

Imgur


Good morning!

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dangerman  Dec 1, 2017 • 5:19:29am

re: #122 The Ghost of a Flea

For the record, I’m coping with all this shit by acquiring international cookbooks.

The measure of my frustration is how much geographic area I’ve covered since last January: Most of Central Asia, the Gulf States, the Levant, and a circumnavigation of the Mediterranean.

It’s healthier than drinking.

I run

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 1, 2017 • 5:20:19am

re: #131 majii

And they never talk about the two Tea Party fanatics who killed police officers and covered their bodies with a Tea Party flag. cbsnews.com

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I Would Prefer Not To  Dec 1, 2017 • 5:20:23am

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 1, 2017 • 5:23:08am

Not that it does any good, but I sent several R senators emails pleading with them not to support the TaxScam bill. Maybe Corker, Flake, and a team player to be named later will hold firm — or they will show that they are cowards whose concern for the debt is a pose that matters only if a D is in power. I vote for coward.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 1, 2017 • 5:25:56am

re: #167 I Would Prefer Not To

Shrek is more attractive. Nicer person, too.

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dangerman  Dec 1, 2017 • 5:26:13am

re: #163 Dr. Matt

FFS. And Ryan supports Dotard.

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Paul Ryan: “I don’t know” if there’s a difference between allegations against Trump and Moore hill.cm

Then you are a pig

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Dr. Matt  Dec 1, 2017 • 5:28:43am

Scum

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 1, 2017 • 5:29:37am

re: #170 dangerman

Then you are a pig

Ryan should just be honest and say that he could care less whether the allegations against Moore or Trump are true as long as he gets to screw over the poor and give (unneeded) tax breaks to his rich buddies.

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makeitstop  Dec 1, 2017 • 5:36:53am

Seen on the internets…

I might need one of those whale knives…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 1, 2017 • 5:38:51am

re: #74 teleskiguy

nwF27U8g4mugihJNjLU7Vc0FezLt4Ol5v0eCb606EBhZne6SyjSd0Ic6XeK0aQGUlJL30amgmPR8jGFL5Fk9g4lHj6kO9PwaQBXIc+72Pc8JZ6Uztdz64fRA0viYOJ8r3QBiV7vWkssZu8eMNd6SDIPNQ4S0dAnqF7QcEAOlsM4=

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 1, 2017 • 5:40:22am

re: #92 jaunte

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So the Right Wing Rentboy is begging for some more cash from his TexASS Sugar Daddies…

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makeitstop  Dec 1, 2017 • 5:47:07am

Oh, Lindsey…

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Dr. Matt  Dec 1, 2017 • 5:49:43am

re: #176 makeitstop

Oh, Lindsey…

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The GOP still haven’t learned that the internet is forever.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 1, 2017 • 5:49:57am

re: #173 makeitstop

The mohel knife looks remarkably like the whale-gutting knife. I only hope the mohel doesn’t confuse the two before some poor kid’s brit milah.

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makeitstop  Dec 1, 2017 • 5:52:12am

re: #178 wheat-dogg

The mohel knife looks remarkably like the whale-gutting knife. I only hope the mohel doesn’t confuse the two before some poor kid’s brit milah.

Well, you can clearly tell them apart by the little pictures on the handles! :)

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Decatur Deb  Dec 1, 2017 • 5:54:10am

re: #179 makeitstop

Well, you can clearly tell them apart by the little pictures on the handles! :)

Fifteen bucks is pretty good for a solid-brass dreidle, and you get a nice blue LED flashlight just for coming in.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 1, 2017 • 6:06:33am

re: #169 wheat-dogg

Shrek is more attractive. Nicer person, too.

shrek is also not a member of a minority race of people that was dispossessed and nearly wiped out

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 1, 2017 • 6:07:09am

re: #173 makeitstop

I might need one of those whale knives…

whale meat again?

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Decatur Deb  Dec 1, 2017 • 6:07:47am

re: #181 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

shrek is also not a member of a minority race of people that was dispossessed and nearly wiped out

Actually…..

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 1, 2017 • 6:07:48am

re: #177 Dr. Matt

The GOP still haven’t learned that the internet is forever.

it’s okay, they know that their base has a limited attention span and an ability to live with the crassest contradictions

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 1, 2017 • 6:08:15am

re: #183 Decatur Deb

Actually…..

a REAL LIFE minority…

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Dr. Matt  Dec 1, 2017 • 6:17:30am

Merry Xmas!!

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Decatur Deb  Dec 1, 2017 • 6:19:09am

re: #185 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

a REAL LIFE minority…

The Shrek cycle is pretty good about teaching (and exploiting) the impulse towards empathy for ‘the Other”.

(I spend too much time watching a 7 yr old absorb the media signals of the times.)

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makeitstop  Dec 1, 2017 • 6:21:56am

re: #182 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

whale meat again?

Who knows where? Who knows when?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 1, 2017 • 6:22:54am

re: #187 Decatur Deb

The Shrek cycle is pretty good about teaching (and exploiting) the impulse towards empathy for ‘the Other”.

(I spend too much time watching a 7 yr old absorb the media signals of the times.)

my kids also grew up with it

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makeitstop  Dec 1, 2017 • 6:25:40am

I’m not from LA (although I dearly love that city), but even all the way over here on the Other Coast, I’ve been a long-time fan of LA Weekly. They were recently sold to a group who kept their identities secret from employees - and when the new owners took over this week they fired everyone and from the look of it, they’re turning into another right-wing rag.

This tweetstorm makes me very sad.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 1, 2017 • 6:25:57am

re: #186 Dr. Matt

Merry Xmas!!

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Trump will be shitting bricks shortly.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 1, 2017 • 6:26:20am

re: #189 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

my kids also grew up with it

My oldest was the precise age to catch the first episode of Sesame Street.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 1, 2017 • 6:30:01am

Stand by for another possible Italics Fail. Two words in #192 are supposed to be marked, but both opening and closing marks occurred at the end of the comment. I’m afraid to try to correct it.

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makeitstop  Dec 1, 2017 • 6:31:34am

re: #193 Decatur Deb

Stand by for another possible Italics Fail. Two words in #192 are supposed to be marked, but both opening and closing marks occurred at the end of the comment. I’m afraid to try to correct it.

Charles mentioned the other day that he wrote some code to correct that, so you’re good.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 1, 2017 • 6:34:35am

re: #194 makeitstop

Charles mentioned the other day that he wrote some code to correct that, so you’re good.

Looks like it didn’t feed back to the thread, at least. Did a dumb thing—installed FFox 57 and plugged in a new wireless mouse/keyboard at about the same time. Don’t know which to blame, but I’m going to switch out the KB in a bit.

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 1, 2017 • 6:34:52am

Out of control.
Judge pushes U.S. to explain why it’s holding an American citizen in secret in Iraq

In a case that defense lawyers warned could create a “constitutional black hole,” a federal judge expressed exasperation Thursday at the U.S. government’s secret detention of an American citizen in Iraq for more than two months.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 1, 2017 • 6:37:16am

For GOT fans: Is Trump actually King Aerys, ready to burn everything down if he doesn’t get his way?

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 1, 2017 • 6:39:26am

re: #190 makeitstop

I’m not from LA (although I dearly love that city), but even all the way over here on the Other Coast, I’ve been a long-time fan of LA Weekly. They were recently sold to a group who kept their identities secret from employees - and when the new owners took over this week they fired everyone and from the look of it, they’re turning into another right-wing rag.

This tweetstorm makes me very sad.

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If everything becomes a right wing rag, how are we ever to learn the truth? We are fast moving into totalitarian regime territory.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Dec 1, 2017 • 6:44:44am

Special counsel Robert Mueller has charged President Trump’s former national security advisor Michael Flynn with “willfully and knowingly” making “false, fictitious and fraudulent statements” to the FBI about his conversations with Russia’s ambassador, Mueller’s office announced Friday morning.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 1, 2017 • 6:46:10am

re: #199 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

Special counsel Robert Mueller has charged President Trump’s former national security advisor Michael Flynn with “willfully and knowingly” making “false, fictitious and fraudulent statements” to the FBI about his conversations with Russia’s ambassador, Mueller’s office announced Friday morning.

One, sweet, count. That has a price.

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austin_blue  Dec 1, 2017 • 6:46:18am

Ohmygah! Trump has tweeted another Is-lamb-ist terror video:

The sheep head butt

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Weaselone  Dec 1, 2017 • 6:46:34am

re: #198 Hecuba’s daughter

If everything becomes a right wing rag, how are we ever to learn the truth? We are fast moving into totalitarian regime territory.

We need to find a way to create cost effective alternatives in local markets that deliver actual news without a right wing slant. Ideally, the effort would allow the populations in those areas to be informed, but also in the long term undermine the finances of the Right Wing rags and drain more money from their owners.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 1, 2017 • 6:46:49am

re: #199 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

LOCK HIM UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 1, 2017 • 6:46:59am

re: #182 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

whale meat again?

Eat what ya got, and don’t forget to fill the lamp before bed time.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 1, 2017 • 6:47:20am

re: #201 austin_blue

Creeping sheepia!

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 1, 2017 • 6:47:25am

re: #199 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

Dang. You beat me to it. I just checked into WHYY (why.org) and that was the lead story.
whyy.org

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Dec 1, 2017 • 6:48:12am

re: #199 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

Special counsel Robert Mueller has charged President Trump’s former national security advisor Michael Flynn with “willfully and knowingly” making “false, fictitious and fraudulent statements” to the FBI about his conversations with Russia’s ambassador, Mueller’s office announced Friday morning.

link to news item

thehill.com

you can see the text of the indictment there

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makeitstop  Dec 1, 2017 • 6:53:50am

BWAAAAAA-HAHAHAHAHA

This is gonna be a good day. Fatboy’s gonna melt down like the Wicked Witch of the West.

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 1, 2017 • 6:54:57am

re: #208 makeitstop

We should be that fortunate.

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makeitstop  Dec 1, 2017 • 6:56:28am

re: #209 PhillyPretzel

We should be that fortunate.

Straw, camel, back, etc.

Trump is loyal to no one. Today, he gets a taste of that himself.

I hope he chokes on it. Metaphorically.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 1, 2017 • 6:57:33am

re: #208 makeitstop

BWAAAAAA-HAHAHAHAHA

This is gonna be a good day. Fatboy’s gonna melt down like the Wicked Witch of the West.

“Nothing to see here, please disperse..”

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 1, 2017 • 6:58:29am

re: #210 makeitstop

I predict a flurry of tweets as soon as he gets to his “throne.”

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S'latch  Dec 1, 2017 • 6:59:12am

What does it mean for the investigation that Flynn is pleading guilty? Does it mean he isn’t cooperating?

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wheat-dogg  Dec 1, 2017 • 7:02:00am

re: #213 S’latch

What does it mean for the investigation that Flynn is pleading guilty? Does it mean he isn’t cooperating?

I would assume a plea deal for a reduced sentence would be likely. Cooperation (state’s witness) would be a possibility.

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Belafon  Dec 1, 2017 • 7:02:45am

re: #202 Weaselone

We need to find a way to create cost effective alternatives in local markets that deliver actual news without a right wing slant. Ideally, the effort would allow the populations in those areas to be informed, but also in the long term undermine the finances of the Right Wing rags and drain more money from their owners.

People are going to have to pay for those things, as in subscriptions. It would also help if a few of the rich liberals would spend their money and buy some of these publications.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Dec 1, 2017 • 7:03:28am

Lynch mob! I have never seen the derp-rage so intense as it is today over the San Francisco verdict.

Trump and the usual suspects are really trying to overturn a jury verdict.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 1, 2017 • 7:03:35am

re: #208 makeitstop

BWAAAAAA-HAHAHAHAHA

This is gonna be a good day. Fatboy’s gonna melt down like the Wicked Witch of the West.

He is one of the few conservatives who can actually make me laugh.

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Belafon  Dec 1, 2017 • 7:03:36am

re: #208 makeitstop

BWAAAAAA-HAHAHAHAHA

This is gonna be a good day. Fatboy’s gonna melt down like the Wicked Witch of the West.

Is there a tweet Wilson is replying to? If so, once again, twitter + my work computer settings are preventing me from seeing it.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 1, 2017 • 7:08:49am

re: #213 S’latch

What does it mean for the investigation that Flynn is pleading guilty? Does it mean he isn’t cooperating?

More details from a more knowledgeable source than I:

Read the thread.

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Belafon  Dec 1, 2017 • 7:09:33am

re: #213 S’latch

What does it mean for the investigation that Flynn is pleading guilty? Does it mean he isn’t cooperating?

If I understand things correctly, in order to plead guilty of something, there has to be actual charges, and his pleading would still require the prosecution to accept. Thus, the two sides had to come to terms, which means he’s going to have to be willing to spill things. Plus, by pleading guilty, he’s giving up his fifth amendment rights, just like we’ve talked about for people who accept pardons.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 1, 2017 • 7:10:21am
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makeitstop  Dec 1, 2017 • 7:12:08am

re: #213 S’latch

What does it mean for the investigation that Flynn is pleading guilty? Does it mean he isn’t cooperating?

Plea deal forthcoming. The charge is punishable by a minimum of 5 years in prison, up to 8 if it involves domestic terrorism.

Flynn does not want that. He’ll flip.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 1, 2017 • 7:13:01am

The Trumpistas are already taking up keyboards to defend Fearless Leader:

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HappyWarrior  Dec 1, 2017 • 7:15:27am

re: #223 wheat-dogg

The Trumpistas are already taking up keyboards to defend Fearless Leader:

Haha fire Cobb.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 1, 2017 • 7:15:28am

I can only imagine what the White House looks like right now.

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makeitstop  Dec 1, 2017 • 7:17:02am

re: #218 Belafon

Is there a tweet Wilson is replying to? If so, once again, twitter + my work computer settings are preventing me from seeing it.

That one was a stand alone. Text, thus:

“Comrade Flynn? The Central Party Committee has no record of a Comrade Flynn ever working for the Glorious Leader. If you are referring to the wrecker, hoarder, saboteur and filthy kulak Michael Flynn, we have no comment at this time.”

Heh.

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 1, 2017 • 7:17:47am

re: #223 wheat-dogg

Flynn will give Mueller the information he needs, if he does not already have it, on what happened and also supply information on Kushner and Company.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 1, 2017 • 7:20:48am

re: #227 PhillyPretzel

Flynn will give Mueller the information he needs, if he does not already have it, on what happened and also supply information on Kushner and Company.

Seth Abramson notes that Flynn probably gave Mueller info about Kushner before Mueller interviewed Kushner. Any contradictions will implicate Kushner.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 1, 2017 • 7:21:41am

Flynn is a pretty big domino.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 1, 2017 • 7:22:19am

re: #229 HappyWarrior

Flynn is a pretty big domino.

Yep, and being the first to cut a deal is a good place to be in.

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 1, 2017 • 7:23:13am

re: #228 wheat-dogg

Yes. Keep in mind that Mueller is a very methodical person. He will dot every “i” and cross every “t.” And that attention to detail will bring down the uncouth one and all of his cronies.

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 1, 2017 • 7:24:35am

re: #230 Eclectic Cyborg

Yep, and being the first to cut a deal is a good place to be in.

Yep, if the rest start singing and it is stuff Mueller already knows, he will tell them to get stuffed. So they will have to dig deeper for more unknown pieces to see if that will be enough to save their hides.

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Belafon  Dec 1, 2017 • 7:27:28am

re: #223 wheat-dogg

The Trumpistas are already taking up keyboards to defend Fearless Leader:

You can either defend the country or the president. Not both.

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JordanRules  Dec 1, 2017 • 7:32:50am
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Belafon  Dec 1, 2017 • 7:33:33am

re: #234 JordanRules

Someone should check him for poison vials. /*.5

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 1, 2017 • 7:35:42am

Oh I’m just waiting for a tweet from Hillary!

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sagehen  Dec 1, 2017 • 7:41:53am

re: #88 Anymouse 🌹

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My favorite ever internet find about old-timey literary figures:

Literary Trysts It Gives Me Great Joy To Think About: Oscar Wilde and Walt Whitman
the-toast.net

I take every opportunity I can to inform people who may not have known that Walt Whitman and Oscar Wilde almost certainly had sex in 1882.

You are either the kind of person to whom this matters a great deal, or the kind of person to whom it matters not at all. To the latter I say: yours is the narrow road and the straight, and I extend to you a hearty and fulsome handshake, as well as my sincerest wishes for your continued good health. To the former I say: Want to hear about the time Walt Whitman and Oscar Wilde (probably) hooked up??

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 1, 2017 • 7:44:48am

re: #227 PhillyPretzel

Flynn will give Mueller the information he needs, if he does not already have it, on what happened and also supply information on Kushner and Company.

Flynn is another independent and unimpeachable source, so to speak. I am really growing impressed by Mueller’s iron nerves

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lawhawk  Dec 1, 2017 • 7:45:35am

Trump’s NSA.
Trump’s transition co-chair along with Pence.

Entering a guilty plea for lying to the FBI. That’s the tip of the iceberg on what Flynn did wrong. He was an undeclared foreign agent. He lied about his contacts. He lied to Trump (who didn’t care and kept him around anyways). Flynn also helped make personnel decisions for Trump.

Let that last bit sink in. Flynn, who had all these conflicts of interest, lied to everyone about his actions, and had power to determine who would be in the administration, is entering a guilty plea here. All of Trump’s picks are suspect. This is just another day in Trumpworld.

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 1, 2017 • 7:47:09am

re: #238 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The impending plea is now the lead story with both the New York Times and The Wall Street Journal. The Wall Street Journal is implying that there may be more departures from the White House.

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Dr. Matt  Dec 1, 2017 • 7:47:53am
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JordanRules  Dec 1, 2017 • 7:48:28am
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PhillyPretzel  Dec 1, 2017 • 7:49:05am

re: #241 Dr. Matt

The person who should be President is correct. She has be correct all along.

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 1, 2017 • 7:49:50am

re: #242 JordanRules

S&*%#.

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lawhawk  Dec 1, 2017 • 7:50:08am
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wheat-dogg  Dec 1, 2017 • 7:50:12am

re: #240 PhillyPretzel

The impending plea is now the lead story with both the New York Times and The Wall Street Journal. The Wall Street Journal is implying that there may be more departures from the White House.

There was a Russian magnate’s yacht moored near Mar-a-Lago the other day …

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 1, 2017 • 7:51:20am

re: #239 lawhawk

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Trump’s NSA.
Trump’s transition co-chair along with Pence.

Entering a guilty plea for lying to the FBI. That’s the tip of the iceberg on what Flynn did wrong. He was an undeclared foreign agent. He lied about his contacts. He lied to Trump (who didn’t care and kept him around anyways). Flynn also helped make personnel decisions for Trump.

Let that last bit sink in. Flynn, who had all these conflicts of interest, lied to everyone about his actions, and had power to determine who would be in the administration, is entering a guilty plea here. All of Trump’s picks are suspect. This is just another day in Trumpworld.

Did Flynn really lie to Trump? And how many of Flynn’s Russian contacts and conversations were actually at Trump’s behest? Trump is a traitor as well as Tillerson. And how many other Republicans are complicit? Oh wait, maybe the question should be “how many Republicans are not complicit?”

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lawhawk  Dec 1, 2017 • 7:52:38am
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Charmingly Persistent  Dec 1, 2017 • 7:53:37am

re: #222 makeitstop

Plea deal forthcoming. The charge is punishable by a minimum of 5 years in prison, up to 8 if it involves domestic terrorism.

Flynn does not want that. He’ll flip.

Oh, I think it is much better than that. I think this is the plea deal. For federal crimes you don’t get off with no charges, and the sentencing for what you plead guilty to can be adjusted depending on how happy the court and the prosecutor continue to be with your performance.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 1, 2017 • 7:54:56am
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Dr. Matt  Dec 1, 2017 • 7:55:17am
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Ace-o-aces  Dec 1, 2017 • 7:55:26am
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JordanRules  Dec 1, 2017 • 7:56:08am

re: #244 PhillyPretzel

They are trying to do this today of all days too. The GOP is deplorable and don’t give a shit about their country.

If there was so much as a breaking lunch condiment scandal while a Dem Admin and Congress were trying to force thru major legislation the GOP would try to halt all regular business. They would be apoplectic!

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Ace-o-aces  Dec 1, 2017 • 7:58:21am
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jamesfirecat  Dec 1, 2017 • 7:59:02am

re: #223 wheat-dogg

The Trumpistas are already taking up keyboards to defend Fearless Leader:

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I do not want to be that guy… but anybody else notice how that color layout exactly matches the Russian flag?

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wheat-dogg  Dec 1, 2017 • 7:59:12am

It’s midnight here, and while I would like to follow the Flynn aftermath in real time, I’ll wait till the morning to get the summary.

I note that the Great Orange Turd has yet to comment via Twitter, which suggests someone has tied him to a chair in a room with no TV.

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Ace-o-aces  Dec 1, 2017 • 7:59:44am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:02:50am
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lawhawk  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:03:07am

re: #257 Ace-o-aces

Mueller:
Manafort indictment
Gates indictment
Papadopoulos - guilty plea
Flynn - guilty plea.

You don’t get guilty pleas without flipping on the people above you. This is still the tip of the iceberg.

Considering that we’re less than a year into Trump’s administration and he’s already got indictments and guilty pleas in the biggest scandal in the nation’s history (yeah, bigger than Watergate or Teapot Dome or any other presidential scandal), this is still the opening stages.

The only ones who think that this is over are Trump’s idiotic supporters and his family who think their shit don’t stink.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:06:41am

re: #246 wheat-dogg

There was a Russian magnate’s yacht moored near Mar-a-Lago the other day …

Magnates, how do they work?

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lawhawk  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:09:47am

re: #260 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Something to do with kleptocrats.

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Citizen K  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:10:05am

re: #260 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Magnates, how do they work?

They don’t, they just hire others to do work for them, that’s how they get enough money to become magnates.

Bet ICP never saw that one coming, huh?

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:10:45am
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Dr. Matt  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:11:21am

Actual comments at Brietbart

Let’s not forget that Flynn also lied to Trump and Pence. Trump is the only person in DC that’s actually clean. That’s why the DC Swamp Rats hate him so much. The real criminal is Mueller, he was Hillary’s bagman in Uranium 1.

This kind of prosecution is the REAL CRIME. Mueller should go to jail for this (which is actually the least of what that cretin has done in his life).

Get a clue : RINOs and democrats cover for each other while going after MAGA patriots.

Flynn doesn’t even work for the government anymore. Hillary needs to be charged for mishandling classified information on her email server and also for lying about it

Today a retired Lt. General who was wiretapped / illegally unmasked and then entrapped is forced to plead GUILTY

Wow. Just fucking wow.

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:13:33am

re: #264 Dr. Matt

I agree. And it is a very good thing that I do not go to that website. I would be very ill from it.

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:13:38am
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PhillyPretzel  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:15:19am

re: #266 FormerDirtDart

From the Saturday Night Massacre to a Friday Frying.

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Weaselone  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:15:27am

re: #266 FormerDirtDart

I hope that testimony is already on tape.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:15:38am

re: #264 Dr. Matt

Actual comments at Brietbart

Wow. Just fucking wow.

And how many of those posts are coming from Russian bots?

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lawhawk  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:16:01am

Fuck Ryan and his bullshit concern over sex harassment and abuse.

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lawhawk  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:17:50am

Now watch as the GOP moves to try to pass the tax bill while everyone’s focus is on Flynn directly and completely implicating Trump in conspiracy against the US and violating multiple federal laws.

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Dr. Matt  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:19:05am

And on cue:

Fox guest blames Obama for Michael Flynn’s indictment on charges of lying to the FBI

MATT SCHLAPP: I think what’s really important for people to know, which is, what ended up happening, what we’ve been reading about, is that the Obama administration was surveilling team Trump and unmasking on hundreds of occasions to see who these names were of the people they were surveilling. And that’s something that we’ve got to mention. Barack Obama fired Mike Flynn from a very important intelligence position in his administration. The relationship between Mike Flynn and the Obama administration was terrible, and the idea that they went back and actually tried to find wrongdoing on Mike Flynn is a very interesting and important part of this story.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:19:05am

re: #271 lawhawk

Now watch as the GOP moves to try to pass the tax bill while everyone’s focus is on Flynn directly and completely implicating Trump in conspiracy against the US and violating multiple federal laws.

Getting pretty hard to tell which is the distraction and which is the outrage.

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dangerman  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:19:17am

re: #259 lawhawk

Mueller:
Manafort indictment
Gates indictment
Papadopoulos - guilty plea
Flynn - guilty plea.

You don’t get guilty pleas without flipping on the people above you. This is still the tip of the iceberg.

Considering that we’re less than a year into Trump’s administration and he’s already got indictments and guilty pleas in the biggest scandal in the nation’s history (yeah, bigger than Watergate or Teapot Dome or any other presidential scandal), this is still the opening stages.

The only ones who think that this is over are Trump’s idiotic supporters and his family who think their shit don’t stink.

!

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Belafon  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:22:26am

re: #271 lawhawk

Now watch as the GOP moves to try to pass the tax bill while everyone’s focus is on Flynn directly and completely implicating Trump in conspiracy against the US and violating multiple federal laws.

If you can call, call one of your Senators, watch a little news, then call the other one.

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Lidane  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:23:01am
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dangerman  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:23:47am

re: #257 Ace-o-aces

Ricky Vaughn 2.0
@RapinBill
Lol so after a year of witch hunting, Mueller could only charge Michael Flynn with “making a false statement.” In other words, no collusion. And thank god Trump fired him after lying to POTUS and VPOTUS

these people are still thinking this is a checkers match and mueller et al are not chess grandmasters

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Lidane  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:24:05am

Hmm…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:24:33am

I’ve got CSPAN on and the GOP is apparently still working on the non-existent bill.
So Cornyn is a liar…they do not have the votes. If they did, they would be voting right now. Instead the Democrats are speaking on the floor right now, ripping this farce to shreds.

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darthstar  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:27:07am

So…any breaking news on this slow news Friday?

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Belafon  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:27:13am

re: #279 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’ve got CSPAN on and the GOP is apparently still working on the non-existent bill.
So Cornyn is a liar…they do not have the votes. If they did, they would be voting right now. Instead the Democrats are speaking on the floor right now, ripping this farce to shreds.

Cornyn was hoping to make it happen by momentum: “I guess, if everyone else is on board, then I’ll go along as well.”

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JordanRules  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:27:25am

re: #279 Backwoods_Sleuth

He said the same about all the ACA votes too. And thankfully that was not the case.

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darthstar  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:27:30am
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Belafon  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:27:48am

re: #280 darthstar

So…any breaking news on this slow news Friday?

25 or 24 days until Christmas, depending on how you count.

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:29:23am
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JordanRules  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:30:42am

re: #275 Belafon

That’s defintely been my routine. Keeps you on your toes I suppose.

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Dr. Matt  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:31:29am

Wall Street is not happy! —> finance.yahoo.com

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nowherenorth2  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:31:33am

re: #285 FormerDirtDart

Bringing da ruckus!

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Teukka  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:32:10am

re: #285 FormerDirtDart

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There is a G-d.

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darthstar  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:32:41am

re: #284 Belafon

25 or 24 days until Christmas, depending on how you count.

Mueller opened the first box on our collective Advent Calendar this morning. Tasty treat!

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Sir John Barron  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:32:44am

re: #280 darthstar

So…any breaking news on this slow news Friday?

Nope, ‘nother boring Friday, but President Hillary Clinton may be in serious trouble, according to Fox News.
/

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:32:50am

How come You Know Who ain’t tweeting??????

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Lidane  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:33:03am
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Sir John Barron  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:33:10am

re: #283 darthstar

Trump doesn’t even know who Flynn is, some guy who worked for Obama.
//

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Sir John Barron  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:33:36am

re: #293 Lidane

I do, thank you.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:33:36am

re: #267 PhillyPretzel

From the Saturday Night Massacre to a Friday Frying.

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Dr. Matt  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:33:37am

re: #287 Dr. Matt

Wall Street is not happy! —> finance.yahoo.com

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darthstar  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:33:53am
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darthstar  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:34:39am

re: #291 Sir John Barron

Nope, ‘nother boring Friday, but President Hillary Clinton may be in serious trouble, according to Fox News.
/

You must be talking about this…

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Sir John Barron  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:35:57am

re: #272 Dr. Matt

what ended up happening, what we’ve been reading about, is that the Obama administration was surveilling team Trump and unmasking on hundreds of occasions to see who these names were of the people they were surveilling. And that’s something that we’ve got to mention.

there isn’t any part of this that makes any kind of sense.

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gocart mozart  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:36:27am
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Dr. Matt  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:37:17am

As the news started to break about Michael Flynn, Fox actually was airing a segment about the Bill Clinton-Attorney General Loretta tarmac meeting. I kid you not.

YouTube

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:37:18am

re: #300 Sir John Barron

Even if you added a fifth of scotch it still would not make any sense.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:37:27am

re: #300 Sir John Barron

there isn’t any part of this that makes any kind of sense.

Stream Of Unconsiousness.

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JordanRules  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:38:12am

re: #285 FormerDirtDart

I see you Lady Justice. All spicy on this nice Friday.

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plansbandc  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:39:23am

I want liquor and lots of it. STAT!

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darthstar  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:39:41am

re: #292 Joe Bacon 🌹

How come You Know Who ain’t tweeting??????

Right now, I hope he’s sitting on a toilet somewhere in the White House with an inflamed bowel, which is only lightly offset by severe indigestion and heartburn and the worst case of dry mouth you can imagine.

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Dr. Matt  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:40:06am

re: #300 Sir John Barron

there isn’t any part of this that makes any kind of sense.

Just sinisterly mention Obama a bunch of times. That will placate the Fox sheeple

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:40:26am

re: #283 darthstar

Flynn seems to have pulled a John Dean.

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darthstar  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:40:33am

re: #305 JordanRules

I see you Lady Justice. All spicy on this nice Friday.

Lookin’ good, Lady Justice! And I mean that in the most respectful way possible.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:41:02am
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darthstar  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:41:23am

re: #309 Dr Lizardo

Flynn seems to have pulled a John Dean.

Not only should they take away Javanka’s security clearance, they should take away their passports…those two have escape plans, you can count on it.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:41:32am

re: #299 darthstar

Ah, Pravda Faux News is in full bullshit mode!

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Dr. Matt  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:42:23am

Looks the rightwing media received their talking points from the WH

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Skip Intro  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:42:35am

re: #99 Anymouse 🌹

They want a murder conviction? Simple: Stonekettle has already weighed in on this. Change the gun laws.

There are no accidents with guns. You can be shown to have mishandled a gun, murder charge if you kill someone. Property damage? Off to jail.

Heaven forfend someone pass a law like that. So we go with the law we have, and that law says it was accidental and thus not murder.

I don’t believe the white hunter who killed a woman after mistaking her for a deer has been charged with anything, even though he was illegally hunting after dusk.

I await the outrage from the WH and Fox “News”.

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Belafon  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:43:05am

re: #300 Sir John Barron

there isn’t any part of this that makes any kind of sense.

“Trump and them might have been doing something wrong, but that doesn’t mean it was right for the government to be concerned.”

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Stanley Sea  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:43:13am

Oh the WH right now!!!!

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:43:34am

re: #309 Dr Lizardo

The fat lady is singing. I prefer the opera reference.

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:44:16am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:45:14am

re: #292 Joe Bacon 🌹

How come You Know Who ain’t tweeting??????

that is a sign that the excrement has impacted the ventillation system

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Lidane  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:45:42am

re: #293 Lidane

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darthstar  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:45:49am
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FormerDirtDart  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:46:20am
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Dr Lizardo  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:46:22am

re: #321 Lidane

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Yep.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:46:23am

I wonder what would happen if Roger Stone tried to get a flight to Brazil right now?

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sagehen  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:46:29am

re: #312 darthstar

Not only should they take away Javanka’s security clearance, they should take away their passports…those two have escape plans, you can count on it.

Only once in history has Israel refused a Jew begging asylum under “right of return” — they sent Meyer Lansky back to the US for trial.

I can’t wait for Javanka to be 2nd and 3rd.

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Lidane  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:47:26am

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA:

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sagehen  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:47:34am

And once the Trumps have been indicted… I pray for the largest ever Civil Asset Forfeiture (which, may I remind you, does not require conviction for the gov’t to take everything you own).

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JordanRules  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:49:43am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:49:43am

re: #325 Joe Bacon 🌹

I wonder what would happen if Roger Stone tried to get a flight to Brazil right now?

CIA Superior: Where is the, uh, the treasury guy? Pfarrer?
CIA Officer: Right now?
CIA Superior: Right now.
CIA Officer: Um, he is in a detention room at Washington Dulles.
CIA Superior: Why?
CIA Officer: He was trying to board a flight to Venezuela. We had his name on a hot list, the CB people pulled him in, uh. Don’t know why he was going to Venezuela.
CIA Superior: You don’t know?
CIA Officer: No, sir.
CIA Superior: We have no extradition with Venezuela.
CIA Officer: Oh. So what should we do with him?
CIA Superior: For fuck’s sake, put him on the next flight to Venezuela!

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Citizen K  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:51:06am

re: #331 gocart mozart

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Dr. Matt  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:51:54am

— Elizabeth de la Vega (@Delavegalaw) December 1, 2017

And NOW we know why Trump has never said anything bad about Flynn and has spent the last 10 months trying to protect him.

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Belafon  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:53:22am

re: #332 Citizen K

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

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ipsos  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:53:39am

re: #332 Citizen K

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He looks 10 years younger in that debate picture than he does now, and that was what, 18 months ago?

I hope nature continues to have her way with his aging process.

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darthstar  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:54:05am

Merle’s always finding things to chew…I saved the sticker.

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darthstar  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:55:18am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:55:38am

This just in!

Santa sending a sleighload of coal to Trump this Christmas!

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Sir John Barron  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:56:03am

re: #329 JordanRules

Lies! Fake news!

OK, true, so what? Not a crime!

Uranium One and Unmasking!

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CongoJack  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:56:07am

re: #321 Lidane

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Can someone who does the twitter please point out to Bill that all of his analogies are from Republican Presidents. And note that only the R “Presidents” commit treason to get elected.

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I cannot.  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:57:26am

re: #338 Joe Bacon 🌹

And not the clean coal.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:58:35am

Sen. Bill Nelson’s motion to make permanent the middle class tax cut provisions being voted on right now.

All of the Republicans are voting no.

I know you all are as surprised as I am…

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Dr. Matt  Dec 1, 2017 • 8:59:51am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 1, 2017 • 9:00:53am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 1, 2017 • 9:01:50am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 1, 2017 • 9:03:04am
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Stanley Sea  Dec 1, 2017 • 9:05:40am

re: #336 darthstar

Merle’s always finding things to chew…I saved the sticker.

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He’s so big!!!

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 1, 2017 • 9:06:35am

re: #345 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Lock him up” sounds about right.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 1, 2017 • 9:06:48am
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Ace Rothstein  Dec 1, 2017 • 9:08:05am

Rush just told everyone to calm down, and ABC is fake news.

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TedStriker  Dec 1, 2017 • 9:08:22am

re: #349 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Let’s hope this is the start of the Logan Act’s revival from a dead letter.

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 1, 2017 • 9:08:52am

re: #350 Ace Rothstein

rofl. He is the fake not ABC.

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Belafon  Dec 1, 2017 • 9:09:34am

re: #349 Backwoods_Sleuth

“A US PATRIOT IS GETTING MORE TIME IN PRISON THAN AN ILLEGAL KILLER WHO KILLED A WHITE WOMAN!!!”

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 1, 2017 • 9:10:27am

Sessions screwed, too?

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ObserverArt  Dec 1, 2017 • 9:11:07am

re: #237 sagehen

My favorite ever internet find about old-timey literary figures:

Literary Trysts It Gives Me Great Joy To Think About: Oscar Wilde and Walt Whitman
the-toast.net

Roy Moore ain’t gonna like that.

He’ll put a stop to this illicit and ungodly sexual perversion stuff when he gets to DC.

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calochortus  Dec 1, 2017 • 9:11:50am

re: #354 Barefoot Grin

Sessions screwed, too?

We can hope there will be a “Sessions Saturday” to go with our other alliterative indictments.

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 1, 2017 • 9:11:52am

re: #354 Barefoot Grin

Everyone associated with the uncouth one is screwed. Flynn is going to sing.

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JordanRules  Dec 1, 2017 • 9:12:05am
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Lidane  Dec 1, 2017 • 9:12:13am
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FormerDirtDart  Dec 1, 2017 • 9:12:28am
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Mike Lamb  Dec 1, 2017 • 9:13:25am

re: #288 nowherenorth2

Bringing da ruckus!

Ghostface, catch the blast of a hype verse
My glock burst
Leaving a Hearse
I’ve done worse…

Wu Tang Clan ain’t nuthin’ to fuck wit

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darthstar  Dec 1, 2017 • 9:14:11am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 1, 2017 • 9:15:32am

Nelson’s motion fails 48-52.

Now voting on Tammy Baldwin’s motion to change carried interest loophole provisions.

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TedStriker  Dec 1, 2017 • 9:16:00am

re: #357 PhillyPretzel

Everyone associated with the uncouth one is screwed. Flynn is going to sing.

Mueller better get Flynn on tape, lest there be an “accident” or a sudden “change of heart” that prevents his further testimony.

/tinfoil hat

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nowherenorth2  Dec 1, 2017 • 9:16:29am

re: #361 Mike Lamb

Hut one hut two hut three hut
Old dirty bastard live and uncut.

I remember during the wild days of Wikipedia many moons ago that someone had put under facts, and it was the only one for the Wu-tang clan, that wu-tang clan ain’t nothing to fuck with.

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Mike Lamb  Dec 1, 2017 • 9:16:29am

re: #314 Dr. Matt

Looks the rightwing media received their talking points from the WH

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Talking points engaged!

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 1, 2017 • 9:17:33am

re: #364 TedStriker

Mueller most likely thought of that and has taken the appropriate measures.

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ObserverArt  Dec 1, 2017 • 9:17:54am

re: #255 jamesfirecat

I do not want to be that guy… but anybody else notice how that color layout exactly matches the Russian flag?

Yes. With a Twitter join date of October 2016.

But who would doubt a Navy man???

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 1, 2017 • 9:18:47am
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Barefoot Grin  Dec 1, 2017 • 9:19:13am

Maggie Habermann just now on CNN: ‘reading Ty Cobb’s statement it’s likely that they’ll push the line that Flynn lied so his testimony can’t be trusted.’

I literally flip to Fox and one of the Outsider stooges is in mid-statement: “Flynn is a liar, so how can anything he says be believed?”

There will be a lot of that in the next few days.

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darthstar  Dec 1, 2017 • 9:19:38am
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FormerDirtDart  Dec 1, 2017 • 9:20:24am
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sagehen  Dec 1, 2017 • 9:20:27am

re: #364 TedStriker

Mueller better get Flynn on tape, lest there be an “accident” or a sudden “change of heart” that prevents his further testimony.

/tinfoil hat

I’m sure they’ve done that already.

And a dead witness… is one of exceptions to “can’t testify because can’t be cross-examined”. If Flynn dies, the tape becomes admissible.

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Lidane  Dec 1, 2017 • 9:21:05am
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Dr Lizardo  Dec 1, 2017 • 9:22:13am

re: #372 FormerDirtDart

Trump’s probably having a straight-up meltdown.

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Dr. Matt  Dec 1, 2017 • 9:23:44am

On a strange side, there has been this right-wing troll (“Dennis”) that has been stalking me (and others) on C&L, RawStory, and MMfA since the G dubyah Bush years. Apparently it went apeshit last night and was issuing death threats against people on MMfA. Apparently the stress of defending Trump finally broke it down.

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Belafon  Dec 1, 2017 • 9:23:45am

re: #375 Dr Lizardo

Trump’s probably having a straight-up meltdown.

Either that, or Trump has actually erased Flynn from his memory.

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Belafon  Dec 1, 2017 • 9:24:56am

re: #376 Dr. Matt

On a strange side, there has been this right-wing troll (“Dennis”) that has been stalking me (and others) on C&L, RawStory, and MMfA since the G dubyah Bush years. Apparently it went apeshit last night and was issuing death threats against people on MMfA. Apparently the stress of defending Trump finally broke it down.

That’s what happens when you don’t delete the NRA’s talking points from the bot’s database.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 1, 2017 • 9:26:52am
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Sir John Barron  Dec 1, 2017 • 9:29:35am

re: #370 Barefoot Grin

Maggie Habermann just now on CNN: ‘reading Ty Cobb’s statement it’s likely that they’ll push the line that Flynn lied so his testimony can’t be trusted.’

I literally flip to Fox and one of the Outsider stooges is in mid-statement: “Flynn is a liar, so how can anything he says be believed?”

There will be a lot of that in the next few days.

He’ll hire the best people

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ObserverArt  Dec 1, 2017 • 9:31:31am

re: #266 FormerDirtDart

Dan Linden

@DanLinden
Just now: @BrianRoss on @ABC News Special Report: Flynn promised full cooperation to the Mueller team and is prepared to testify that candidate Trump “directed him to make contact with the Russians.” abcn.ws
11:08 AM - Dec 1, 2017

KA_BOOM!!!
Washington DC shook by large explosion.

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Lidane  Dec 1, 2017 • 9:32:19am

re: #381 ObserverArt

KA_BOOM!!!
Washington DC shook by large explosion.

True story - the White House Christmas party for the press is today.

Should be fun. :)

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freetoken  Dec 1, 2017 • 9:32:29am

re: #358 JordanRules

Who knew that Comey would turn into a master pundit?

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I Would Prefer Not To  Dec 1, 2017 • 9:33:33am

I’m sitting at my desk eating the same lunch I always eat (Peanut butter and honey on whole wheat), but it just tastes better. Can’t figure out why.

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TedStriker  Dec 1, 2017 • 9:33:57am

re: #382 Lidane

True story - the White House Christmas party for the press is today.

Should be fun. :)

I’m gonna guess that either Trump will cancel/delay it or he’ll be out of the room a lot.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Dec 1, 2017 • 9:34:21am

Hot Damn, it’s a good day to be alive.

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Belafon  Dec 1, 2017 • 9:34:24am

re: #382 Lidane

True story - the White House Christmas party for the press is today.

Should be fun. :)

See #372.

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JordanRules  Dec 1, 2017 • 9:36:40am

Thank you for being our voice protesters. Just perfect.

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Dr. Matt  Dec 1, 2017 • 9:37:46am

re: #382 Lidane

True story - the White House Christmas party for the press is today.

Should be fun. :)

The entire free press (i.e., non-Nazi sites) should follow CNN and boycott.

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 1, 2017 • 9:38:12am
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TedStriker  Dec 1, 2017 • 9:39:46am

re: #390 FormerDirtDart

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Fortress America, all alone.

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Dr. Matt  Dec 1, 2017 • 9:40:14am
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ObserverArt  Dec 1, 2017 • 9:40:24am

re: #272 Dr. Matt

And on cue:

Fox guest blames Obama for Michael Flynn’s indictment on charges of lying to the FBI

MATT SCHLAPP. No more need be said.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 1, 2017 • 9:41:32am

Pajama man

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ObserverArt  Dec 1, 2017 • 9:44:49am

re: #287 Dr. Matt

Wall Street is not happy! —> finance.yahoo.com

And just a bit earlier I heard how it was going up because of the tax deal.

If the tax deal gets halted and Flynn news increases…buckle up. It’s gonna get bumpy.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Dec 1, 2017 • 9:44:50am

We should form a pool on who will be the first major Republican to flee the country and seek asylum in Russia. I’ll got with Roger Stone.

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Shropshire Slasher  Dec 1, 2017 • 9:45:04am

Damn, gets fired for lying, now getting charged. Honesty is the best policy I guess.

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nowherenorth2  Dec 1, 2017 • 9:46:50am

re: #396 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Rohrbacher

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 1, 2017 • 9:47:32am

LOL, he just RT’d this:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 1, 2017 • 9:48:50am

re: #399 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL, he just RT’d this:

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nothing else happening today folks…

:D

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Shropshire Slasher  Dec 1, 2017 • 9:49:00am

Hey, at least Flynn’s plea deal gets the tax deal off the front page. They could have it passed by Monday.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 1, 2017 • 9:50:26am

re: #394 Stanley Sea

Pajama man

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$84K

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 1, 2017 • 9:51:19am
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blueraven  Dec 1, 2017 • 9:51:35am

re: #401 Shropshire Slasher

Hey, at least Flynn’s plea deal gets the tax deal off the front page. They could have it passed by Monday.

It was going to pass the Senate regardless. There is no honor among Republicans there.
None.

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Belafon  Dec 1, 2017 • 9:53:29am

re: #401 Shropshire Slasher

Hey, at least Flynn’s plea deal gets the tax deal off the front page. They could have it passed by Monday.

Flynn is a distraction from the tax plan which is a distraction from Flynn. We can do both.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 1, 2017 • 9:54:01am

re: #403 FormerDirtDart

Texas teacher calls police on 6-year-old Muslim with Down syndrome after accusing him of terrorism

but the threat is real!!!!

/

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Shropshire Slasher  Dec 1, 2017 • 9:54:13am

re: #403 FormerDirtDart

Thank you Zero Tolerance!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 1, 2017 • 9:54:38am

re: #405 Belafon

Flynn is a distraction from the tax plan which is a distraction from Flynn. We can do both.

tax plan is a done deal…I have given up any hope on it being stopped at this point

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Dec 1, 2017 • 9:54:53am

When rational people regain control of Congress and the White House, they need to treat the situation like Reconstruction should have been treated the first time around: ALL the criminals must be exposed and prosecuted, and their property confiscated, and the centers of treasonous agitation and support, like Lubbock, should be last in line for any kind of federal support, grant, or benefit. Fundamentalist gifters and shills should be prosecuted for tax fraud and media liars for failure to register as foreign agents.

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Interesting Times  Dec 1, 2017 • 9:54:58am

re: #404 blueraven

It was going to pass the Senate regardless. There is no honor among Republicans there.
None.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 1, 2017 • 9:56:30am

re: #409 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

When rational people regain control of Congress and the White House, they need to treat the situation like Reconstruction should have been treated the first time around: ALL the criminals must be exposed and prosecuted, and their property confiscated, and the centers of treasonous agitation and support, like Lubbock, should be last in line for any kind of federal support, grant, or benefit. Fundamentalist gifters and shills should be prosecuted for tax fraud and media liars for failure to register as foreign agents.

but they won’t because e-mails and Al Franken…

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ObserverArt  Dec 1, 2017 • 9:57:35am

re: #358 JordanRules

James Comey

@Comey
“But justice roll down like waters and righteousness like an ever-flowing stream” Amos 5:24 Instagram

“But let justice roll down like waters and righteousness like an ever-flowing stream” Amos 5:24


12:01 PM - Dec 1, 2017
1,862 1,862 Replies 11,061 11,061 Retweets 20,815 20,815 likes

Current Comey: Hahahahahaha!

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meteor  Dec 1, 2017 • 9:57:51am

re: #384 I Would Prefer Not To

Mmmm

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 1, 2017 • 9:58:41am
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ObserverArt  Dec 1, 2017 • 10:02:14am

re: #370 Barefoot Grin

Maggie Habermann just now on CNN: ‘reading Ty Cobb’s statement it’s likely that they’ll push the line that Flynn lied so his testimony can’t be trusted.’

I literally flip to Fox and one of the Outsider stooges is in mid-statement: “Flynn is a liar, so how can anything he says be believed?”

There will be a lot of that in the next few days.

Just like a good guy with a gun becomes a lone wolf with a mass shooting…Flynn was a patriot up until a couple hours ago and now he is a liar that can’t be trusted.

No one rolls over no-longer-needed bodies like the conservative media and their super-absorbent wingnut watchers/listeners.

Edit: Lone…not a damn loan! Sheesh. Too excited.

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JordanRules  Dec 1, 2017 • 10:02:42am
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PhillyPretzel  Dec 1, 2017 • 10:04:18am

re: #416 JordanRules

If I recall correctly Wonder Woman’s lasso when wrapped around a person they told the truth.

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darthstar  Dec 1, 2017 • 10:05:00am
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Belafon  Dec 1, 2017 • 10:05:03am

re: #417 PhillyPretzel

If I recall correctly Wonder Woman’s lasso when wrapped around a person they told the truth.

Only when she waited for them to talk. She also used it as a rope. I don’t think it could break either.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 1, 2017 • 10:05:10am

re: #417 PhillyPretzel

If I recall correctly Wonder Woman’s lasso when wrapped around a person they told the truth.

shhhh….George is on a roll…

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ObserverArt  Dec 1, 2017 • 10:05:58am

re: #382 Lidane

True story - the White House Christmas party for the press is today.

Should be fun. :)

I bet Trump comes down with some kind of ailment that causes him to miss it.

The Flynn Flu took down the Flim-Flam Man.

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Dr. Matt  Dec 1, 2017 • 10:06:15am

Has the Dotard tweeted since the news broke?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 1, 2017 • 10:06:35am
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ObserverArt  Dec 1, 2017 • 10:07:43am

re: #389 Dr. Matt

The entire free press (i.e., non-Nazi sites) should follow CNN and boycott.

Would it surprise anyone if all of a sudden some news makes them reconsider and they do show up…for the fun?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 1, 2017 • 10:07:51am
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darthstar  Dec 1, 2017 • 10:09:02am

re: #425 Backwoods_Sleuth

Reagan won 49 states in 84. Yeah, the Russians really had a strong impact on that election.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 1, 2017 • 10:11:24am
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Dr. Matt  Dec 1, 2017 • 10:11:34am

My favorite comment over at SMOTI’s site:

“Just remember, Flynn is a Democrat!”

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ObserverArt  Dec 1, 2017 • 10:11:45am

re: #394 Stanley Sea

Pajama man

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Gee. What a surprise.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Dec 1, 2017 • 10:11:58am

re: #425 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yeah, he should resign immediately and we should institute sanctions against the Soviet Union.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 1, 2017 • 10:12:41am
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austin_blue  Dec 1, 2017 • 10:13:54am

re: #430 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Yeah, he should resign immediately and we should institute sanctions against the Soviet Union.

The Dow’s reaction is interesting. Up 50 early, then dropped four hundred points, now down 96. All over the place.

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Belafon  Dec 1, 2017 • 10:14:11am

re: #425 Backwoods_Sleuth

Is there anything to that other than she pulled it out of her ass?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 1, 2017 • 10:14:15am

oh……..

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 1, 2017 • 10:14:42am

re: #433 Belafon

Is there anything to that other than she pulled it out of her ass?

pretty sure it’s just her ass

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 1, 2017 • 10:15:40am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 1, 2017 • 10:15:50am
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austin_blue  Dec 1, 2017 • 10:16:39am

re: #435 Backwoods_Sleuth

pretty sure it’s just her ass

Well, sure. They’ve already blamed Obama and Hillary, why not go for the dead bogeyman, too?

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Dr. Matt  Dec 1, 2017 • 10:16:42am

Gallup Daily, Trump Job Approval: 34/60.

We are going to see the 20s by next week.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 1, 2017 • 10:17:10am
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Ace-o-aces  Dec 1, 2017 • 10:17:49am

re: #425 Backwoods_Sleuth

Anybody know what she’s referring too?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 1, 2017 • 10:19:16am
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austin_blue  Dec 1, 2017 • 10:19:35am

re: #441 Ace-o-aces

Anybody know what she’s referring too?

She’s suffering from Vomitus Punditis.

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Belafon  Dec 1, 2017 • 10:21:07am

re: #442 Backwoods_Sleuth

Everyone in Washington might lie to the camera, but no one is allowed to lie to the FBI.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 1, 2017 • 10:21:46am

re: #441 Ace-o-aces

Anybody know what she’s referring too?

apparently this:

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Belafon  Dec 1, 2017 • 10:21:58am

Can we get an admin official to say “It’s just like this tax bill. Just like Republicans are lying about what it will do, lying doesn’t mean that Flynn should be in jail.”

Small edit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 1, 2017 • 10:24:19am

LOLOLOLOL

448
FormerDirtDart  Dec 1, 2017 • 10:25:23am
449
PhillyPretzel  Dec 1, 2017 • 10:25:29am

re: #447 Backwoods_Sleuth

Dinesh is sniffing airplane glue again.

450
darthstar  Dec 1, 2017 • 10:27:06am
451
Dr. Matt  Dec 1, 2017 • 10:27:51am

re: #449 PhillyPretzel

Dinesh is sniffing airplane glue again.

If it’s “normal conduct of presidential business”, why did Flynn lie about it to the FBI? FFS, these apologists are fucking stupid.

452
ObserverArt  Dec 1, 2017 • 10:27:55am

I was just getting around to watching the last Keith Olbermann “Trump is finished” video. Ol’ Keith seems to have known something as his number one route that would take down Trump was Flynn.

He makes it a point that when Mueller announced Flynn was doing a deal Thanksgiving week it made John Dean’s comments to Keith that Mueller is not shooting down with Flynn to get Manafort or Donny Jr…he is using Flynn to shoot up to get Trump.

Thanks Keith. I look forward to your next endeavors.

Here is the video if anyone wants a look back.

Trump is Finished

453
Romantic Heretic  Dec 1, 2017 • 10:28:34am

re: #403 FormerDirtDart

Oy vay iz mir. This woman needs help. Her anger addiction has curdled her brain.

454
Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 1, 2017 • 10:30:39am

re: #451 Dr. Matt

If it’s “normal conduct of presidential business”, why did Flynn lie about it to the FBI? FFS, these apologists are fucking stupid.

More importantly: TRUMP WASN’T THE FUCKING PRESIDENT YET!

455
freetoken  Dec 1, 2017 • 10:31:53am

re: #439 Dr. Matt

Gallup Daily, Trump Job Approval: 34/60.

We are going to see the 20s by next week.

So, you don’t expect one of those rally-around-the-President things happening?

Trump’s approval rating has been in essence flat for some time.

Trumpers are terminal Trumpers.

456
Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Dec 1, 2017 • 10:31:58am

re: #441 Ace-o-aces

Anybody know what she’s referring too?

It’s based on a memo that was uncovered in Soviet archives in 1991. The memo was from KGB chief Victor Chebrikov to Yuri Andropov and has alleged details of a message from Kennedy to Andropov that was forwarded through Kennedy supporter John Tunney. The message asks for Andropov’s help in defeating Reagan, in return for a softer line on the Soviet Union. There is no original or first hand documentation for this message at all.
Ted Kennedy’s Soviet Gambit
The story appears almost exclusively in RWNJ sources. The linked Forbes story, by Reagan aide and Hoover Institute fellow Peter Robinson, is as close as I could find to an objective account.

457
FormerDirtDart  Dec 1, 2017 • 10:33:02am
458
Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 1, 2017 • 10:33:50am

re: #457 FormerDirtDart

Okay, I’m officially done with 2017 now…

459
Dr. Matt  Dec 1, 2017 • 10:34:37am

re: #455 freetoken

So, you don’t expect one of those rally-around-the-President things happening?

Trump’s approval rating has been in essence flat for some time.

Trumpers are terminal Trumpers.

I think the Zombie Base bottoms out at around 22-24% whereby they will defend Herr Trump at all costs. IMO, of course.

460
Lidane  Dec 1, 2017 • 10:38:59am

re: #447 Backwoods_Sleuth

Freepers are parroting this same line of bullshit over multiple threads. It’s hilarious.

Process crime.

IOW, there was no crime until the process started………………

At first glance this totally vindicates Trump. FLYNN WAS FIRED FOR LYING TO MIKE PENCE.

Is talking to Russians now a crime?

So what? Thats what incoming administrations do.

Nothing burger. But, MSM is salivating for something, anything…

Bring it…it will only end up vindicating Trump more than anything.

First of all, why am I required to tell the FBI anything?

Second, why am I required to tell the FBI the truth unless I’m under oath?

Third, why would I be under oath?

Is the answer to all of these questions “Never talk to the FBI?”

It is not the job of any citizen to cooperate with law enforcement under any circumstances; much less if you think they are trying to set you up.

Calm down everyone, you are all missing something blindingly obvious.

If Trump was colluding with the Russians BEFORE the election, why would he need Flynn as a go-between AFTER the election?

Mueller has just entirely destroyed the whole reason for his investigation to exist.

461
garzooma  Dec 1, 2017 • 10:39:16am

re: #445 Backwoods_Sleuth

apparently this:

[Embedded content]

Here’s some more info on it.

462
JordanRules  Dec 1, 2017 • 10:40:00am

No shit.

463
Dr. Matt  Dec 1, 2017 • 10:41:26am

For what it’s worth:

Rouge WH Senior Advisor
Trump is “melting down” over Michael Flynn news. Launched coffee pot into a West Wing hallway & “not taking any calls all day.”

464
Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 1, 2017 • 10:42:47am

re: #460 Lidane

“It is not the job of any citizen to cooperate with law enforcement under any circumstances; much less if you think they are trying to set you up.”

Black Lives Matter protesters will be delighted to know this…

465
Dr Lizardo  Dec 1, 2017 • 10:44:18am

re: #457 FormerDirtDart

Arsenic Ricin and Old Lace”.

466
Dr. Matt  Dec 1, 2017 • 10:45:19am

8 years of Obama: ZERO crimes.

10 months of Trump: 4 guilty pleas and more indictments to come.

Come again, which party is the party of law and order?

467
Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 1, 2017 • 10:45:35am
468
Dr Lizardo  Dec 1, 2017 • 10:46:11am

re: #463 Dr. Matt

I honestly don’t know how true or accurate that account is, but that’s what I suspected was going on - Trump’s having an epic meltdown. That’s why the photo-op was cancelled earlier today.

469
Belafon  Dec 1, 2017 • 10:46:27am

re: #467 Backwoods_Sleuth

Of course it is. He’s trying to erase Obama. He’d change the name of Denali back if he could.

470
PhillyPretzel  Dec 1, 2017 • 10:46:47am

re: #467 Backwoods_Sleuth

That is if he can get himself together after today’s news.

471
Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Dec 1, 2017 • 10:47:13am

Speaking of airplane glue, I have just taken delivery of what I hope will be a great new model kit, though it is not an airplane.

Aerosani were a kind of propeller driven snowmobile used extensively by the Red army in World War II. They had some obvious limitations in rough or hilly terrain but were very useful on frozen lakes and rivers. There were several types including armored troop carriers, one of which is shown in the background of the above image.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 1, 2017 • 10:47:51am

re: #471 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Speaking of airplane glue, I have just taken delivery of what I hope will be a great new model kit, though it is not an airplane.

[Embedded content]

Aerosani were a kind of propeller driven snowmobile used extensively by the Red army in World War II. They had some obvious limitations in rough or hilly terrain but were very useful on frozen lakes and rivers. There were several types including armored troop carriers.

I want a set of those in 1/72 scale

473
Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Dec 1, 2017 • 10:50:57am

re: #472 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I want a set of those in 1/72 scale

They have the larger types in 1/72. hobbylinc.com

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Targetpractice  Dec 1, 2017 • 10:52:11am

The wingnuts don’t seem to understand the concept of a plea deal, they seem to honestly believe that this single charge is the sum total of the case against Mike Flynn. The idea that he’d plead guilty to a single charge on the promise of a light sentence in exchange for testimony seems to be totally lost on them. They honestly believe that there’s not more that Mueller could be charging Mikey with right now.

475
William Lewis  Dec 1, 2017 • 11:03:09am

re: #189 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

my kids also grew up with it

There’s that scene with the bird blowing up, IIRC? Anyway my son turned it off and has never finished it much less the others.

I watched a lot of Kim Possible and Avatar though.

476
Sir John Barron  Dec 1, 2017 • 11:06:20am

re: #474 Targetpractice

The wingnuts don’t seem to understand the concept of a plea deal, they seem to honestly believe that this single charge is the sum total of the case against Mike Flynn. The idea that he’d plead guilty to a single charge on the promise of a light sentence in exchange for testimony seems to be totally lost on them. They honestly believe that there’s not more that Mueller could be charging Mikey with right now.

well, in fairness, Fox is hyping Uranium One, so who’s gonna ‘em?

477
retired cynic  Dec 1, 2017 • 12:21:46pm

re: #457 FormerDirtDart

WTF!!!!!


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