The President’s new tax bill appears to favor the average golf course-owning, private plane-flying millionaire. Sound like anyone we know?
Trying to review the #GOPTaxScam but they are making hand-written changes to brand new text as we speak – can anyone else read this? pic.twitter.com/JX8v1v4gyi
— Senator Dick Durbin (@SenatorDurbin) December 1, 2017
Sen. Durbin is trying to enter this page into the record, and can’t because nobody can read it.
This is a page of the tax bill. That we’re voting on. Tonight. In the United States Senate. https://t.co/rLUGoHslsQ— Matt House (@mattwhouse) December 1, 2017
Metaphor for the entire fucking thing.
We should be so grateful that Hillary wasn’t elected….FFS
.@SenateMajLdr, if you are so intent on forcing middle class families to foot the bill so your donors can have a tax break, at least have the decency to find a printer. #GOPTaxScam pic.twitter.com/qFkfaru6ml
— Nancy Pelosi (@NancyPelosi) December 1, 2017
My favorite David Gergen just brought up (paraphrase)
Why did Flynn lie? He’s hiding more shit.
Why so much lying? More shit.
Find the video!
re: #2 Citizen K
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Metaphor for the entire fucking thing.
Well at least the Senate has returned to “regular order”, according to multi-millionaire who will make out like a bandit John McCain./
re: #3 Dr. Matt
We should be so grateful that Hillary wasn’t elected….FFS
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Our whole existence would be different. We’d be defending her against impeachment for bullshit.
re: #5 Big Beautiful Door
Well at least the Senate has returned to “regular order”, according to multi-millionaire who will make out like a bandit John McCain./
“Regular Order” clearly means the regular orders they receiving from their donors.
re: #6 Stanley Sea
Our whole existence would be different. We’d be defending her against impeachment for bullshit.
And that would still be preferable to the compromised shitshow we’re seeing. The absence of the rhetorical collateral that Trump has caused alone would make things 10x better.
re: #6 Stanley Sea
Our whole existence would be different. We’d be defending her against impeachment for bullshit.
I’d probably have Governor Gillespie or worse Governor Stewart.
The important point about Flynn pleading guilty to lying to the FBI is pretty simple: he must have had something very important to hide. Because lying to the FBI is a serious crime, and Flynn knew that.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) December 2, 2017
For those concerned for VB, it’s already 2 or 3 am Saturday morning in Tel Aviv. 16 hours to sundown, and I think she should be OK unless somebody does something really, really dumb.
re: #7 Citizen K
Republican Senators are following Regular WHOREder!
re: #6 Stanley Sea
Our whole existence would be different. We’d be defending her against impeachment for bullshit.
Which is why the real problem is GOP power in Congress and the state houses. For a party of cranks, creationists and cretins led by rich psychopaths, they are way too good at seizing and holding power.
I’m coming to the conclusion that the reason US politics basically worked for much of the 20-th century was 40 years of uninterrupted Democratic control of the House of Representatives.
re: #8 Citizen K
And that would still be preferable to the compromised shitshow we’re seeing. The absence of the rhetorical collateral that Trump has caused alone would make things 10x better.
Dog so true
re: #12 Joe Bacon 🌹
Republican Senators are following Regular WHOREder!
Please don’t insult hard working whores that way. :(
Okay this is absurd. One page of the new #GOPTaxPlan is crossed out with an ex. Another page is just a line. Is that a crossout? Is this page part of the bill?
WHY AM I ASKING THESE QUESTIONS HOURS BEFORE WE VOTE ON IT?? #GOPTaxScam pic.twitter.com/57Qbi7gT5F— Senator Bob Menendez (@SenatorMenendez) December 1, 2017
re: #8 Citizen K
And that would still be preferable to the compromised shitshow we’re seeing. The absence of the rhetorical collateral that Trump has caused alone would make things 10x better.
Certainly and we wouldn’t have that prick Gorsuch on the USSC indefinitely either. I’m never goign to stop being angry about that. I wanted to throttle DF when he defended that cowardly bullshit by McConnell. I hope should one of the liberal justices die while Trump or any Republican is President, the Dems pull the same stunt in return. It goes against everything I beleive in but you know what, they stole that seat from us. They stole a chance to reverse a lot of the bad decisions made by the court when Scalia was there because they simply couldn’t accept that Scalia died in a Democrat’s presidency.
re: #15 Citizen K
Please don’t insult hard working whores that way. :(
Yeah after visiting Amsterdam’s Red Light District. Those are hard working gals and they’re honest too.
re: #17 HappyWarrior
Certainly and we wouldn’t have that prick Gorsuch on the USSC indefinitely either. I’m never goign to stop being angry about that. I wanted to throttle DF when he defended that cowardly bullshit by McConnell. I hope should one of the liberal justices die while Trump or any Republican is President, the Dems pull the same stunt in return. It goes against everything I beleive in but you know what, they stole that seat from us. They stole a chance to reverse a lot of the bad decisions made by the court when Scalia was there because they simply couldn’t accept that Scalia died in a Democrat’s presidency.
Except if the Dems did try and pull that, the full force of the media machine would likely result in mass resignations and/or impeachments from the sheer volume of outrage.
re: #19 Citizen K
Except if the Dems did try and pull that, the full force of the media machine would likely result in mass resignations and/or impeachments from the sheer volume of outrage.
Yeah that’s very true.
re: #19 Citizen K
Except if the Dems did try and pull that, the full force of the media machine would likely result in mass resignations and/or impeachments from the sheer volume of outrage.
We’re seeing rats jumping ship from the Republican party. They’re just trying to set the place on fire before they get off.
re: #19 Citizen K
Except if the Dems did try and pull that, the full force of the media machine would likely result in mass resignations and/or impeachments from the sheer volume of outrage.
It always comes down to morals.
Who has em & doesn’t go against them
& who doesn’t have em & will fight with blood to the end
re: #22 Stanley Sea
It always comes down to morals.
Who has em & doesn’t go against them
& who doesn’t have em & will fight with blood to the end
Our system is so inadequately designed to handle regular bad faith operation that it routinely punishes the former and rewards the latter.
re: #17 HappyWarrior
Certainly and we wouldn’t have that prick Gorsuch on the USSC indefinitely either. I’m never goign to stop being angry about that. I wanted to throttle DF when he defended that cowardly bullshit by McConnell. I hope should one of the liberal justices die while Trump or any Republican is President, the Dems pull the same stunt in return. It goes against everything I beleive in but you know what, they stole that seat from us. They stole a chance to reverse a lot of the bad decisions made by the court when Scalia was there because they simply couldn’t accept that Scalia died in a Democrat’s presidency.
If Trump gets removed from office for crimes etc. and the Democrats end up with the presidency and large enough Congressional majorities, I think wholesale removal from office of all Trump appointees would be thoroughly justified.
Not that something so obviously sensible could ever happen.
Do the math: #MichaelFlynn was NOT charged with lying re: FARA filings & SF86 omissions. Each false statement brings up to 5-year sentence. #Mueller therefore saved Flynn several years in prison. He would need something major in return. The math does NOT favor Admin.
— Jim Sciutto (@jimsciutto) December 2, 2017
I do worry that after the Mike Flynn guilty plea, the risk of Trump trying to remove Mueller increases, triggering a national crisis.
— Nicholas Kristof (@NickKristof) December 2, 2017
re: #24 EPR-radar
If Trump gets removed from office for crimes etc. and the Democrats end up with the presidency and large enough Congressional majorities, I think wholesale removal from office of all Trump appointees would be thoroughly justified.
Not that something so obviously sensible could ever happen.
I’d love for that to happen but it wouldn’t. The best we can hope for is we do end up with what you say and we start the process of fixing the damage.
re: #24 EPR-radar
If Trump gets removed from office for crimes etc. and the Democrats end up with the presidency and large enough Congressional majorities, I think wholesale removal from office of all Trump appointees would be thoroughly justified.
Not that something so obviously sensible could ever happen.
It will take at least two elections to get there, and lots of things will be different by then.
I do think we need a constitutional amendment requiring minimum standards for judges.
re: #23 Citizen K
Our system is so inadequately designed to handle regular bad faith operation that it routinely punishes the former and rewards the latter.
The latter is always the loudest.
Never forget the tea party.
re: #26 teleskiguy
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I don’t see it happening before the vote on Wealthcare. Why? Because as soon as that happens, his legislative agenda is pretty much DOA and Republicans will run screaming from any bill he’s touched. So Cobb is probably working extra hard to keep him from blowing his top tonight, on the assurances from Yertle that this bill will pass.
Huh. JPost and Haaretz have both pulled down their “Damascus Strike” pages.
Here is a feel good story. After Vox published this story about how cops seized over $91k from an innocent man, they agreed to give him his money back!
Analyzing the tax bill
NEW: This is the text of the Republican tax amendment, obtained via a Senate source.https://t.co/8ucaCpDXfI
— Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur) December 1, 2017
P. 289 has a provision by Pat Toomey to create an exemption from the university endowment tax — the exemption appears to apply only to Hillsdale, a conservative college the DeVos family has generously donated to. https://t.co/8itf3xksua
— Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur) December 2, 2017
“I believe that Hillsdale would qualify for this, as would any other college that chooses to forego Title IV funding,” Toomey said, adding that he’s not aware how many others have an endowment large enough to qualify.https://t.co/Gc3OCCQeqV
— Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur) December 2, 2017
Ha:
Friday Inspiration:
Is Michael Flynn going to jail?
Unlike Paul, can’t make $11 Million bail.
Or maybe against Trump, he’ll have to wail.
This whole presidency is one big fail.— Ana Navarro (@ananavarro) December 1, 2017
My fuckin’ Republican Senator Cory Gardner’s phone at his office in Denver and D.C. have been going to voicemail *for three days* now.
re: #33 Stanley Sea
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They are loading up the Christmas Tree with goodies! Every good boy and girl who sent a letter to Santa with a six or seven figure check to the GOP is getting their present early this year!
re: #33 Stanley Sea
Toomey shut the f*k up. And Hillsdale is not in your state.
The question that’s going to keep a lot of Trumpers awake tonight: How long has Mike been considering flipping?
re: #35 teleskiguy
My fuckin’ Republican Senator Cory Gardner’s phone at his office in Denver and D.C. have been going to voicemail *for three days* now.
What a fucking wimp.
re: #30 Targetpractice
I don’t see it happening before the vote on Wealthcare. Why? Because as soon as that happens, his legislative agenda is pretty much DOA and Republicans will run screaming from any bill he’s touched. So Cobb is probably working extra hard to keep him from blowing his top tonight, on the assurances from Yertle that this bill will pass.
And if things look like they’re moving toward impeachment or criminal charges, the entire legislative agenda comes to a screeching halt as all attention becomes focused on that.
It is for that reason the Wealthcare for Billionaires bill is being pushed so hard now: They may view this as their last chance.
Look. I used the word I thought described the person. I understand that for some here in the US, it is the the worst word a person can use. But fortunately I have had the opportunity to travel to many places around the world, and if you have spent any time in pubs, sporting events etc, the word is definitely thrown around, but in a different way than here. And definitely dont go to Australia.
If my using the word offended anybody, I apologize to them, and I don’t harbor any ill feelings towards those who took shots a me because of my initial post. There are a lot more important issues going on around us these days than to get hung on the small things like this.
And if some people still want me to leave this forum, I will. Just point me toward another place where there is intelligent conversation like there is here.
re: #33 Stanley Sea
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Remember when Democrats added that special break for Nebraska in the ACA, and everyone went nuts until they removed it?
Lou Dobbs: “Isn’t there some law that says presidents shouldn’t be attacking sitting presidents?” https://t.co/U6izaJyEjX
— I hope & pray the Nazis/alt-right get dick cancer (@DrMatthew) December 2, 2017
re: #41 VegasGolfer
Just conform to local custom with respect to that usage and there will be no further trouble. On the other hand, you should expect to get more static if you insist on using that word here going forward. The fact that it is more acceptable elsewhere is thoroughly irrelevant.
Co-sign. This is the guy who advocated outright lying to promote Bernie Sanders. How soon we forget.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) December 2, 2017
re: #37 PhillyPretzel
Toomey shut the f*k up. And Hillsdale is not in your state.
DeVos family money is good in all states.
re: #41 VegasGolfer
Look. I used the word I thought described the person. I understand that for some here in the US, it is the the worst word a person can use. But fortunately I have had the opportunity to travel to many places around the world, and if you have spent any time in pubs, sporting events etc, the word is definitely thrown around, but in a different way than here. And definitely dont go to Australia.
If my using the word offended anybody, I apologize to them, and I don’t harbor any ill feelings towards those who took shots a me because of my initial post. There are a lot more important issues going on around us these days than to get hung on the small things like this.
And if some people still want me to leave this forum, I will. Just point me toward another place where there is intelligent conversation like there is here.
Most of us have given up using ginger to describe Chucky J because it’s considered a very specific insult in Great Britain.
I don’t think you need to leave. It’s just one of those words that a number of us have sworn off of. And I know some of the women think it’s OK, and it’s probably their right to use it, in the same way that I can’t use the n-word.
re: #35 teleskiguy
My fuckin’ Republican Senator Cory Gardner’s phone at his office in Denver and D.C. have been going to voicemail *for three days* now.
His constituents are irrelevant, as long as a high enough fraction of them are programmed by Faux News to be GOP murderbots.
Standards Lowered For Second Search Through Fridge https://t.co/SayXPaQ2yy pic.twitter.com/NdgQshSPm3
— The Onion (@TheOnion) December 2, 2017
The GOP tax amendment has a clause that would allow people to designate FETUSES as beneficiaries. This would be a huge step toward the anti-science “personhood” bullshit the GOP has been trying to push for years.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) December 2, 2017
re: #43 Dr. Matt
Um, no, Lou. There’s this thing called the First Amendment.
re: #41 VegasGolfer
Nah, I wouldn’t have you leave, and I am aware how that word is used in places like the UK or Australia. At the risk of ire from others here, I don’t see how that word is any more sexist than calling a man a “dick.”
re: #37 PhillyPretzel
Toomey shut the f*k up. And Hillsdale is not in your state.
And what pisses me off is that Pennsylvania re-elected him after the Democratic machine stabbed Joe Sestak in the back and got their hand picked hack in as the Democratic nominee…
re: #51 Belafon
Um, no, Lou. There’s this thing called the First Amendment.
Lou would look good in a Gestapo uniform, don’t you think?//
U.S. Senate: Awaiting votes on GOP #TaxReform bill – LIVE on C-SPAN2 https://t.co/CBfZWAWmtt pic.twitter.com/0S7nm7asJr
— CSPAN (@cspan) December 2, 2017
re: #51 Belafon
Um, no, Lou. There’s this thing called the First Amendment.
Until someone like Dobbs gets a case before the Trump Supreme Court.
re: #52 Anymouse 🌹
Nah, I wouldn’t have you leave, and I am aware how that word is used in places like the UK or Australia. At the risk of ire from others here, I don’t see how that word is any more sexist than calling a man a “dick.”
Dick goes along with sucking and blowing in that they’ve lost their original meaning. C**t, at least to me, is going to take a while. And why use it, when we already have dick? It’s a perfectly good word to describe women.
re: #41 VegasGolfer
You’re not going anywhere.
re: #56 Joe Bacon 🌹
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re: #54 Big Beautiful Door
Lou would look good in a Gestapo uniform, don’t you think?//
He’d look better as a doorman at Trump Tower.
re: #56 Joe Bacon 🌹
And what is it with the eyebrows?
re: #55 Dr. Matt
C-Span won’t play for me without logging in. Why is that? (I do not have a C-Span account) Watching Congress requires an account?
If this handout to the super-rich (with added “culture war” bad craziness) passes and becomes law, the US will be on the road to ruin.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) December 2, 2017
re: #64 Ace Rothstein
She did them herself without her glasses.
re: #65 Anymouse 🌹
CSPAN is a private cable company.
re: #68 teleskiguy
CSPAN is a private cable company.
So I can watch what’s going on in Washington if I go to Washington. I guess I’ll have to follow along the commentary here then.
re: #66 Charles Johnson
We’ve been on that road sice trump was elected. This will turn the road into an autobahn.
re: #35 teleskiguy
My fuckin’ Republican Senator Cory Gardner’s phone at his office in Denver and D.C. have been going to voicemail *for three days* now.
re: #48 EPR-radar
His constituents are irrelevant, as long as a high enough fraction of them are programmed by Faux News to be GOP murderbots.
And Democrats don’t count at all, at best.
MAGA!!
I can’t believe this is real, a tax break for private jet owners: “No tax shall be imposed…on any amounts paid by an aircraft owner for aircraft management service related to…maintenance and support of the aircraft owner’s aircraft or flights on the aircraft owner’s aircraft” pic.twitter.com/xz54FlprrD
— Roberto Ferdman (@robferdman) December 2, 2017
That was just the on-ramp. This road is very long and full of horrors.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) December 2, 2017
re: #72 Dr. Matt
MAGA!!
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re: #72 Dr. Matt
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That’s one hell of a campaign ad for the Democrats. No deduction for teachers but billionaires and their planes?
re: #71 TedStriker
And Democrats don’t count at all, at best.
My Representative (Adrian Smith, R-NE3) says he only represents Republicans.
It would have been nice to have a Democrat on the ballot in the last two elections… .
Trey Gowdy used “$150,000 in taxpayer dollars to settle with a former aide who alleged he was fired in part because he was not willing to focus his investigative work on Hillary Clinton.” https://t.co/TNIRkMnzDj
— Josh Billinson (@jbillinson) December 1, 2017
What we are witnessing with the GOP tax bill is a frenzied rush to loot the bank before the cops show up with handcuffs out.
— David Simon (@AoDespair) December 1, 2017
Denial. It’s not just a river in Africa.
The wild dog-like, frenzied reporting on Flynn pleading to a ONE COUNT of lying to FBI is laughable. He lied. The “collusion” case died.
— Laura Ingraham (@IngrahamAngle) December 2, 2017
re: #81 teleskiguy
Denial. It’s not just a river in Africa.
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Oh, bless your heart, Laura. You keep telling yourself that, honey.
re: #78 JordanRules
Gowdy Doody didn’t do the Blake Farenthold thing?
klre: #80 Charles Johnson
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One more year of Koch support to get them through the 2018 cycle.
(A low sepulchral voice intones, “Yes, master…thy will be done.)
Keep lying Eva Braun Ingraham!
— josephebacon 🌹 (@josephebacon) December 2, 2017
Oh, Ingraham blocked me. I’m hurted.
Mike Gallagher had Michelle Malkin on this AM. They were gobsmacked trying to make sense of it all, totally fumbling around.
re: #81 teleskiguy
Denial. It’s not just a river in Africa.
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— (((IntheNumbers))) (@ItsNumbersMan) December 2, 2017
A New McCarthyism: @ggreenwald on Clinton Camp’s Attempts to Link @wikileaks, Trump & @DrJillStein to Russia https://t.co/Bm81ligWQO
— WikiLeaks (@wikileaks) September 1, 2016
This aged well. https://t.co/IL8Iw8lIn0
— I hope & pray the Nazis/alt-right get dick cancer (@DrMatthew) December 2, 2017
re: #81 teleskiguy
Denial. It’s not just a river in Africa.
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The same folks who declared that Manafort being indicted was meaningless because none of the charges had to do with the election.
The GOP tax bill is nothing more than the long-debunked “trickle down” hoax they’ve been pushing for decades. And now they’re getting ready to trickle down all over us, to make their corporate owners even more wealthy.
This is a fucking nightmare.— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) December 2, 2017
re: #90 Dr. Matt
LOL, they already are linked to Russia. Whatever Wikileaks might have been in the past, it’s nothing more than a Russian propaganda arm now.
re: #78 JordanRules
Trey Gowdy used “$150,000 in taxpayer dollars to settle with a former aide who alleged he was fired in part because he was not willing to focus his investigative work on Hillary Clinton.” https://t.co/TNIRkMnzDj
— Josh Billinson (@jbillinson) December 1, 2017
hello!
re: #81 teleskiguy
Denial. It’s not just a river in Africa.
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Conservatives keep using the “they haven’t proved collusion” mantra. Should we tell them that Mueller can find and charge them with any crime (obstruction, lying, money laundering, etc)?
A cast reminder.
Prosecutors stated Flynn was directed to engage the Russians on 12/29/16 by donald’s national security transition team.
Senator Tom Cotton was on that team.
The same Tom Cotton who rabidly defended Mike Flynn.
The same Tom Cotton about to be nominated as CIA Director.— Philippe Reines (@PhilippeReines) December 1, 2017
Others on the Transition Team:
National Security
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DEVIN NUNES
TREY GOWDY
Misc
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Gingrich
Giuliani
Sessions
Bannon
Preibus
Mnuchin
Family
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Jared
Ivanka
Don Jr
Eric https://t.co/yE6bwrceu9— Philippe Reines (@PhilippeReines) December 2, 2017
re: #92 Charles Johnson
Decades? They were pushing it in the late 1800’s. That same push brought us the Great Depression, and made it worse when Herbert Hoover’s Treasury Secretary, Andrew Mellon (one of the richest men in the world at the time) pushed for tax cuts for the wealthy during the Depression.
And Hoover was Nazi-curious as well, speaking favourably of Hitler when he came back from a trip to Nazi Germany.
I don’t get why people keep claiming “the GOP changed but I didn’t.” They have always been this way: The only change has been to pull the racists out of the Democratic Party after Wallace.
re: #97 Anymouse 🌹
Ah, Andrew Mellon…remember Grandpa Bacon saying this about that thief…
“Andrew Mellon—the only Treasury Secretary that three Presidents served under…”
I will remind you once again: This is the same @GOP that refused to allow even a VOTE on common-sense gun laws after the slaughter of twenty first-graders.
These people are beholden to no one but their donors, loyal to nothing but the Darkness.— Amanda Guinzburg (@Guinz) December 2, 2017
I just opened a bottle of FlynnSnitch, 12 year. It is fookin laavley.
On Fox News right now. No, really. pic.twitter.com/QuEUbmDFdI
— Shannon Watts (@shannonrwatts) December 2, 2017
SCHUMER: “Historians will mark today as one of the darkest black letter days in the long history of this senate.”
— Alan Rappeport (@arappeport) December 2, 2017
re: #101 Backwoods_Sleuth
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They’re going to pass it. Because this is why they supported Donald Trump, to give themselves this kind of villainous power.
re: #82 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
Oh, bless your heart, Laura. You keep telling yourself that, honey.
They are brainwashing 27% of the USA
It’s damn criminal that the President of the United States is going to sign a bill that gives himself a raise.
re: #105 Stanley Sea
They are brainwashing 27% of the USA
That 27% includes my mother and her crazy husband.
re: #104 Charles Johnson
They’re going to pass it. Because this is why they supported Donald Trump, to give themselves this kind of villainous power.
So they are going to pass a bill that nobody can even READ, purely on the grounds that a Republican proposed it and a Republican will sign it. What the fuck is wrong with the partisan politics in this country.
re: #104 Charles Johnson
They’re going to pass it. Because this is why they supported Donald Trump, to give themselves this kind of villainous power.
This reminds me of a great Robert Hunter line from Franklin’s Tower”:
“If you plant ice, you’re gonna harvest wind.”
re: #107 Ace Rothstein
That 27% includes my mother and her crazy husband.
My mom and dad, too. I guarantee the upcoming trip home to fish country will be full of awkward silences from myself and Mrs. Fish.
re: #108 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
So they are going to pass a bill that nobody can even READ, purely on the grounds that a Republican proposed it and a Republican will sign it. What the fuck is wrong with the partisan politics in this country.
Sadly, asked and answered.
re: #108 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
So they are going to pass a bill that nobody can even READ, purely on the grounds that a Republican proposed it and a Republican will sign it. What the fuck is wrong with the partisan politics in this country.
re: #110 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
My mom and dad, too. I guarantee the upcoming trip home to fish country will be full of awkward silences from myself and Mrs. Fish.
Stay with us. We’ll keep you sane.
The GOP is now writing in amendments on the Senate floor, so essentially no one can read or evaluate them, on a massive bill that was just released. @SenJohnMcCain, that doesn’t sound like regular order.
— Greg Sarafan, Esq. (@GSarafan) December 2, 2017
re: #108 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
So they are going to pass a bill that nobody can even READ, purely on the grounds that a Republican proposed it and a Republican will sign it. What the fuck is wrong with the partisan politics in this country.
The Republicans have wholly gone over to the dark side by now, and the rest of the country mostly doesn’t understand that Republicans really are that evil.
And they still have to reconcile this with the House.
For the MAGA guys who don’t understand: the people handwriting the tax bill don’t give a damn about them or this country. They are $1,000 Gucci shoe-wearing lobbyists who get pols to sell us all out, again and again, because you LET THEM by falling for the GOP con.
— Kurt Eichenwald (@kurteichenwald) December 2, 2017
re: #113 Cheechako
Stay with us. We’ll keep you sane.
Assumes facts not in evidence. My sanity checked out a long time ago.
re: #114 Backwoods_Sleuth
The only regular order McCain cares about is the orders he has received from his masters in the GOP donor class. He has been their loyal dog for so many years that disobedience is unthinkable.
What you’re witnessing tonight in the United States Senate is the weaponization of pure, unmitigated greed. Lobbyists are writing the bill in pen at the last minute. And Republicans are no longer even pretending to care about anyone but the super rich. What a shameful night.
— Joy Reid (@JoyAnnReid) December 2, 2017
And some folks wanted to know why I was so upset when I heard the uncouth one won the election. He should have never been considered for it.
re: #116 Belafon
And they still have to reconcile this with the House.
There is the faint hope that the fuckwits in the GOP house caucus will find a way to screw this up so that it doesn’t pass.
Can you still take a deduction on the expenses of importing trophy wives?
I want to note that we’ve barely had time to review the revised Republican tax plan—and we might be voting on it as soon as TONIGHT. It is astounding the lengths that Republicans will go for corporate tax cuts.
— Kirsten Gillibrand (@SenGillibrand) December 2, 2017
It is getting nasty on the floor of the senate. Democrats hammering on provision of Trump/GOP bill that gives windfall to Hillsdale College (just Hillsdale College), which is funded by Devos (huge Republican donors) family.
— David Rothschild (@DavMicRot) December 2, 2017
re: #118 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
Assumes facts not in evidence. My sanity checked out a long time ago.
Some days, it’s not worth chewing through the straps in the morning.
re: #119 EPR-radar
The only regular order McCain cares about is the orders he has received from his masters in the GOP donor class. He has been their loyal dog for so many years that disobedience is unthinkable.
Which is crazy. He’s busy dying of an inoperable GB, as bad as it gets. He has the chance to be the Maverick he has always claimed to be, without political cost.
SMH.
re: #123 Decatur Deb
Yes, but only after your third.
Where we are right now, as a matter of record, in the Trump Russia investigation. #WhatWeKnow pic.twitter.com/5sxii71lxR
— Maddow Blog (@MaddowBlog) December 2, 2017
re: #127 austin_blue
Which is crazy. He’s busy dying of an inoperable GB, as bad as it gets. He has the chance to be the Maverick he has always claimed to be, without political cost.
SMH.
He needs to fatten Meghan’s inheritance, regular folk be damned.
McCain is throwing away his entire reputation as a patriotic American. He’s an old greedy asshole, nothing more.
What was going on between Trump and Flynn?
Watch tonight’s full opening segment here: https://t.co/jGCwaciUjS pic.twitter.com/t061TX9t3K— Maddow Blog (@MaddowBlog) December 2, 2017
Police say there’s been a shooting at a hospital in Bakersfield, California, and a suspect has been shot by police. https://t.co/4WCxPraHrN
— The Associated Press (@AP) December 2, 2017
What we’re witnessing right now is the buying and selling of our nation’s future, where a party is so desperate to pass a bill that they’re rewriting it on the floor of the Senate by cutting out and adding in whatever it will take to win a vote.
re: #119 EPR-radar
The only regular order McCain cares about is the orders he has received from his masters in the GOP donor class. He has been their loyal dog for so many years that disobedience is unthinkable.
What the fuck does McCain need with donors? He’s dying.
Poor Lou Dobbs has been having a meltdown tonight over the Trump Russia probe: “This is interference with the president of the United States, it’s effectively a subversion tool of the left to stop this president.” https://t.co/b3OXuWHpqu
— I hope & pray the Nazis/alt-right get dick cancer (@DrMatthew) December 2, 2017
Yet when someone retweets trumps exact tweets they get in trouble. pic.twitter.com/YnVsLtdcMx
— keLg (@missee_mu) December 1, 2017
Just so we’re 100% clear:
The GOP is about to pass a tax bill they’ve consistently lied about, that has illegible handwriting for amendments, that is going to be signed by a president who increasingly looks like he was illegitimately elected with the help of a foreign adversary— Clint Smith (@ClintSmithIII) December 2, 2017
Republicans are now in the process of voting NO on a motion to give us a couple of days to READ THE BILL. This is appalling.
— Brian Schatz (@brianschatz) December 2, 2017
re: #134 Targetpractice
What we’re witnessing right now is the buying and selling of our nation’s future, where a party is so desperate to pass a bill that they’re rewriting it on the floor of the Senate by cutting out and adding in whatever it will take to win a vote.
All it needs is a machine-gun-mouthed auctioneer standing beside the President of the Senate.
re: #135 I Would Prefer Not To
What the fuck does McCain need with donors? He’s dying.
You think McCain’s four children can live off of (checks McCain’s net worth) $100 million?!? The family has boat payments, man!
Breaking: On floor where senator Schumer asked to adjourn until Monday so that senators AND the American taxpayers can look at tax bill. We got it four hrs ago and it is 500 pgs w/1.4 tril in debt. Republicans are all voting no. #RipoffWith NoDebate
— Amy Klobuchar (@amyklobuchar) December 2, 2017
re: #108 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
So they are going to pass a bill that nobody can even READ, purely on the grounds that a Republican proposed it and a Republican will sign it. What the fuck is wrong with the partisan politics in this country.
Not partisan politics: Conservative politics. That goes back to Reagan’s “never speak ill of a Republican” and the Hastert Rule (appropriately named after a paedophile) that says no bill will be brought unless a majority consisting solely of Republicans can pass it.
re: #142 teleskiguy
You think McCain’s four children can live off of (checks McCain’s new worth) $100 million?!? The family has boat payments, man!
True. I have no respect for the man. When he dies, and all the networks start praising him, I will turn off the TV and scream.
re: #133 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Hey you don’t know me, but you don’t like me
You say you care less how I feel
But how many of you that sit and judge me
Have ever walked the streets of Bakersfield?
Sometimes living in a town like that will just cause you to snap off. I remember there used to be a billboard on the south edge of Bakersfield on CA99 that said
Sun! Fun! Play! Stay!
As if anything about a town that gets 11” of rain (in a good year) has anything going for it but dust and dessication.
Even in Balkan legislatures where most laws are passed via quasi-legal emergency sessions and violence & chaos on assembly floors are almost routine, laws are not made w margin notes scribbled in pen. Remarkable stuff from one of the oldest constitutional republics in the world.
— Jasmin Mujanović (@JasminMuj) December 2, 2017
re: #119 EPR-radar
The only regular order McCain cares about is the orders he has received from his masters in the GOP donor class. He has been their loyal dog for so many years that disobedience is unthinkable.
He has millions of reasons to vote for this (his wife’s money).
re: #77 Anymouse 🌹
My Representative (Adrian Smith, R-NE3) says he only represents Republicans.
It would have been nice to have a Democrat on the ballot in the last two elections… .
A wide and fundamental misunderstanding how representation works
Over 6,000 DC lobbyists worked on GOP tax bill: report https://t.co/w6SpQTI5kC pic.twitter.com/LgzVWKIUhj
— The Hill (@thehill) December 2, 2017
Tax reform is taking over Washington, so much so that more than half of all registered lobbyists have disclosed working on the issue, according to an analysis from Public Citizen, a government watchdog group.
There are just under 11,000 active lobbyists in the nation’s capital, according to data compiled by the Center for Responsive Politics (CRP), and more than half of them — 6,243 — have reported working on taxes this year, according to the report, which relies on CRP data.
Spread out over Capitol Hill, that means there are more than 11 lobbyists working on taxes for every member of Congress.
POPULISM!
re: #143 Backwoods_Sleuth
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re: #101 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Good line:
Hillsdale College endowment: $528 million
Hillsdale College enrollment: ~1,500
Endowment per student = over $350,000 each
Does Senator Pat Toomey really think this college needs a special tax break? pic.twitter.com/w4fGjJUyEM— Heather Long (@byHeatherLong) December 2, 2017
The Hillsdale Handout. Burn it into your memory. https://t.co/osf3HD6IdO
— Topher Spiro (@TopherSpiro) December 2, 2017
re: #138 JordanRules
The GOP is about to pass a tax bill they’ve consistently lied about, that has illegible handwriting for amendments, that is going to be signed by a president who increasingly looks like he was illegitimately elected with the help of a foreign adversary
Makes ya want to party like the Romans of yore.
re: #131 teleskiguy
He needs to fatten Meghan’s inheritance, regular folk be damned.
McCain is throwing away his entire reputation as a patriotic American. He’s an old greedy asshole, nothing more.
McCain has been busy flushing his reputation down the toilet since 2000 and especially since 2008.
re: #148 Anymouse 🌹
He has millions of reasons to vote for this (his wife’s money).
One of his last “gifts” to his family…by screwing almost everyone else in the country.
Fuck McCain.
For all the scorn the GOP threw at Pelosi for allegedly saying they had to pass the Obamacare bill to see what was in it now they’re like: “hold our beer.”
re: #155 EPR-radar
McCain has been busy flushing his reputation down the toilet since 2000 and especially since 2008.
Indeed, McCain wrote his legacy as far as I’m concerned when he picked Palin and ran the kind of campaign he did against Obama.
re: #145 I Would Prefer Not To
True. I have no respect for the man. When he dies, and all the networks start praising him, I will turn off the TV and scream.
According to the Flag Code, if he was to die in office, I would be required to lower the village’s flags as a sitting Senator. I’ll do it, but only because of the law, not out of any respect. My flags will be removed from my yard.
So assuming this shit sandwich is headed for a Senate ram-through… any expert analysis of what kind of pressure might be brought to bear at reconciliation that might blow the fragile support for it apart at the seams?
re: #156 TedStriker
One of his last “gifts” to his family…by screwing almost everyone else in the country.
Fuck McCain.
When he does go, I hope he has thousands lining up to piss on his grave.
To be honest though, McCain’s reputation was always overblown. This whole “I’ll vote for this even though it’s imperfect” is McCain’s legacy in a nutshell politically. I respect his service but I have little use at all for him politically in the grand shceme of things.
re: #161 TedStriker
When he does go, I hope he has thousands lining up to piss on his grave.
That’s assuming that they aren’t killed by fallout of the shit sandwich he’s helping to ram through first.
re: #143 Backwoods_Sleuth
I asked the senior senator from Texas to come to the floor and explain his Wall Street Welfare amendment that lets giant hedge funds be taxed like small businesses. Still waiting. RT if you want him to come to the floor. pic.twitter.com/HDMrBElaWt
— Senator Jeff Merkley (@SenJeffMerkley) December 2, 2017
re: #158 HappyWarrior
Indeed, McCain wrote his legacy as far as I’m concerned when he picked Palin and ran the kind of campaign he did against Obama.
And even in that generally shitty campaign there were moments of decency, like the time McCain pushed back vs. a swivel-eyed loon raving about Obama being a Muslim Manchurian Candidate or some such drivel.
It was after he lost in 2008 that McCain became the bitter piece of shit we have today, capable of doing the right thing only for irrelevant reasons, like the health care vote to spite Republicans who had pissed him off.
re: #157 Eclectic Cyborg
For all the scorn the GOP threw at Pelosi for allegedly saying they had to pass the Obamacare bill to see what was in it now they’re like: “hold our beer.”
And even then, Rep. Pelosi was quoted out of context (deliberately, for a sound bite that said exactly opposite).
Moreover, the PPACA was available on a public Website for everyone to view, and Republicans were offered the opportunity to amend the bill (which they did, many times) and debate it.
When the MAGA patriots find out the tax scam didn’t improve their pathetic white trash lives, I can’t wait to hear the excuses.
re: #165 EPR-radar
And even in that generally shitty campaign there were moments of decency, like the time McCain pushed back vs. a swivel-eyed loon raving about Obama being a Muslim Manchurian Candidate or some such drivel.
It was after he lost in 2008 that McCain became the bitter piece of shit we have today, capable of doing the right thing only for irrelevant reasons, like the health care vote to spite Republicans who had pissed him off.
That’s true. It was really cemented after he lost. What pisses me off is he has the nerve to tell HRC that eh shut up after he lost to Obama. Uh no John, you didn’t. You stayed in the Senate- your right of course and were happy to trash Obama whenever you could. Again his right, but he has no room at all to tell HRC to fade into the sunset.
re: #167 Dr. Matt
When the MAGA patriots find out the tax scam didn’t improve their pathetic white trash lives, I can’t wait to hear the excuses.
Obama, of course.
re: #160 ipsos
So assuming this shit sandwich is headed for a Senate ram-through… any expert analysis of what kind of pressure might be brought to bear at reconciliation that might blow the fragile support for it apart at the seams?
It’s really hard to see how this happens. The GOP doesn’t give a flying fuck about its constituents — the donors have given their orders, and those orders will be obeyed, even by the fuckwits in the House Freedumb Caucus.
re: #167 Dr. Matt
When the MAGA patriots find out the tax scam didn’t improve their pathetic white trash lives, I can’t wait to hear the excuses.
Their propaganda pieces will blame the Democrats as they always do. It’s how these jackasses somehow thought that a guy who has used thousands of foreign workers in and outside the U.S somehow actually cares about American laborers.
re: #160 ipsos
So assuming this shit sandwich is headed for a Senate ram-through… any expert analysis of what kind of pressure might be brought to bear at reconciliation that might blow the fragile support for it apart at the seams?
There will be a concerted circle jerk to make it worse for everybody but the 1%. They’ll “reconcile” it to make it worse for the 99%. Maybe a strengthening of the “personhood” definition? A little tweak on putting Hatch’s amendment back in?
Who knows? But it’ll be MAGA for the rich, and the donations to the R’s will flow in and Monday, the Dow is taking off like like a rocket…man…what a little wierdo that guy is, believe me!
Hey, if the tax scam passes, maybe Fuckface Von Clownstick won’t drop nukes on Pyongyang, thus starting WWIII. #SilverLining
White House Begins Christmas Season With Ceremonial Lighting Of Cross https://t.co/smXH4OXD3P pic.twitter.com/sle1Ac3Lzm
— The Onion (@TheOnion) December 1, 2017
It will be remembered as the Friday Night Massacre of the Middle Class.
— Bronco Bama (@BronckoBamma) December 2, 2017
I’m stealing that phrase. Ok? https://t.co/W7vymwoa0O
— Claire McCaskill (@clairecmc) December 2, 2017
re: #173 teleskiguy
Hey, if the tax scam passes, maybe Fuckface Von Clownstick won’t drop nukes on Pyongyang, thus starting WWIII. #SilverLining
Maybe not nukes but I hear DOD(And that’s why we need to be careful not to see Mattis a benevolent necessarily) wants to repeal the doing away of cluster bombs.
re: #145 I Would Prefer Not To
True. I have no respect for the man. When he dies, and all the networks start praising him, I will turn off the TV and scream.
I’ll go for a run
Because I can
And he can’t
(Sorry..all respect lost)
Wonkette survived Gawker Media & survived a sustained Breitbart/Bannon attack & is now 100% owned by a liberal woman in Montana. High 5 to my friend Rebecca Schoenkopf!
— Ken Layne (@KenLayne) December 1, 2017
re: #167 Dr. Matt
When the MAGA patriots find out the tax scam didn’t improve their pathetic white trash lives, I can’t wait to hear the excuses.
They won’t care because they will believe that this bill will smack colored people, gays and Muslims down!
Senate Republicans are on their worst behavior. pic.twitter.com/QEvoYzqFfM
— Senate Finance Cmte (@SenateFinance) December 2, 2017
Happy to inform everyone that a bottle has been purchased from the bottle store. Oh thank you wonderful alcohol castle. Thank you.
Oh and Republicans need to fuck themselves.
Had to edit because of a shitty grammatical error and I’m not even drunk yet. *cries*
This was your amendment, no? pic.twitter.com/gagjF9X4tu
— Todd Hayden (@toddkhayden) December 2, 2017
re: #173 teleskiguy
Hey, if the tax scam passes, maybe Fuckface Von Clownstick won’t drop nukes on Pyongyang, thus starting WWIII. #SilverLining
Von Clownstick’s use of US nukes is related almost entirely to how he sees the Mueller investigation proceeding.
If he ever does feel a real threat from that, he’ll immediately make himself a ‘wartime president’, with a depressingly high chance of that leading to complete political victory on all fronts.
So let’s all hope his advisors are so good at plying Trump with happy-fun news to stroke his ego that he gets caught completely by surprise and doesn’t have time to launch nukes before he’s arrested.
oh…
#BREAKING: US Russia envoy cancels trip saying Russian officials won’t meet him https://t.co/Yh6tIxIIb0 pic.twitter.com/7lquwd0eAf
— The Jerusalem Post (@Jerusalem_Post) December 1, 2017
“MOSCOW - US Ambassador to Russia Jon Huntsman has been forced to cancel a planned trip to Russia’s Far East next week because senior regional officials could not find time to meet him, the US Embassy to Russia said in a statement on Friday.” https://t.co/DdQp1pfKdj
— (((DuneMyThang™))) (@Kris_Sacrebleu) December 2, 2017
re: #184 Backwoods_Sleuth
oh…
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re: #149 dangerman
A wide and fundamental misunderstanding how representation works
Adrian Smith understands how representation works.
I never even got a response to my E-mail asking he support a bill by Rep. Don Bacon (R-NE2) for Gold Star Family access to military bases for children who still have military benefits. (The way the law is now is the specific reason my mother would never consider remarrying, because she would lose access to bases for her minor children.)
He didn’t even respond to that.
re: #185 HappyWarrior
Remember when we thought Hunstman was decent for a Republican.
‘Decent for a Republican’ is getting way too close to ‘decent for a Nazi’.
re: #184 Backwoods_Sleuth
oh…
“MOSCOW - US Ambassador to Russia Jon Huntsman has been forced to cancel a planned trip to Russia’s Far East next week because senior regional officials could not find time to meet him, the US Embassy to Russia said in a statement on Friday.”
#BREAKING: US Russia envoy cancels trip saying Russian officials won’t meet him https://t.co/Yh6tIxIIb0 pic.twitter.com/7lquwd0eAf
— The Jerusalem Post (@Jerusalem_Post) December 1, 2017
…
The beet harvest is at a fever pitch.
re: #187 EPR-radar
‘Decent for a Republican’ is getting way too close to ‘decent for a Nazi’.
No kidding. The party grows worse by the day. My brother posed a great question this evening “How do you see the good in someone so callous to the suffering of others?”
In my long career in politics, I have not seen a more regressive piece of legislation, so devoid of a rationale, so ill-suited for the condition of the country, so removed from the reality of what the American people need.
— Chuck Schumer (@SenSchumer) December 2, 2017
re: #184 Backwoods_Sleuth
Fuckface Von Clownstick’s administration is a well-oiled machine!
-Cernovich, Posobiec, Ingraham, Hannity, et al., probably
re: #184 Backwoods_Sleuth
Huntsman still weird to me in this appointment.
I really wish we had an operational State Department.
re: #193 JordanRules
Huntsman still weird to me in this appointment.
I really wish we had an operational State Department.
I actually remember thinking he would be a good SoS in a hypothetical sand GOP administration.
re: #185 HappyWarrior
Remember when we thought Hunstman was decent for a Republican.
I never thought so.
re: #190 HappyWarrior
No kidding. The party grows worse by the day. My brother posed a great question this evening “How do you see the good in someone so callous to the suffering of others?”
I’d look carefully and not be surprised if I didn’t find any
Will Trump pardon Flynn? Senior WH official: “Absolutely not under consideration.”
— Jim Acosta (@Acosta) December 2, 2017
I’m not good with fractions- does lying to the FBI count as 1/10th? https://t.co/eSVL9YfgZg
— Stephen Colbert (@StephenAtHome) December 2, 2017
re: #198 Backwoods_Sleuth
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re: #198 Backwoods_Sleuth
Flynn pardon by Xmas a certainty.
This tax bill demonstrates,once again, the total collapse of all and any rigor around the policy making process in the GOP congress. It is built on a foundation of lies. It adds more than a trillion to the debt. No real conservative should vote for this
— Steve Schmidt (@SteveSchmidtSES) December 1, 2017
John McCain’s presidential campaign manager >> https://t.co/3XSOXlkLDh
— Topher Spiro (@TopherSpiro) December 2, 2017
I’ve been right here. Where the fuck have YOU been?
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) December 2, 2017
re: #197 dangerman
I’d look carefully and not be surprised if I didn’t find any
Well it’s tough because we all have friends and even family who believe in right wing nonsense.
re: #202 HappyWarrior
You weren’t here in 2012.
That’s true, I wasn’t. I’d not heard of this place yet.
re: #201 Skip Intro
Flynn pardon by Xmas a certainty.
Will Flynn accept? I suspect Mueller has more stuff on him, with stiffer penalties, that he can charge him with. And his son.
Byrd alert!!! Foreign airline, unborn child provisions fall out of tax bill in Byrd bath, per Dem aide. https://t.co/hgMaZkVjke via @WSJ
— Richard Rubin (@RichardRubinDC) December 2, 2017
The “Byrd Bath” (where the Parliamentarian reviews the bill for compliance with reconciliation rules) continues. One major development related to Byrd is that the anti-choice provision dealing w new rights for fetuses was taken out of the bill. https://t.co/BYSorLLYye 4/
— Chad Bolt (@chadderr) December 2, 2017
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) December 2, 2017
re: #201 Skip Intro
Flynn pardon by Xmas a certainty.
Then Mueller pulls out the other charges if Flynn then says he won’t play with Mueller. Plus the charges over Flynn, Jr.
re: #206 Anymouse 🌹
That’s true, I wasn’t. I’d not heard of this place yet.
Yeah wasn’t trying to dismiss you there but yeah I thought Huntsman was the least rotten apple in 2012. I’ve since been proven wrong.
re: #210 Anymouse 🌹
Then Mueller pulls out the other charges if Flynn then says he won’t play with Mueller. Plus the charges over Flynn, Jr.
This is correct.
“…Republican leaders argue that providing deep tax cuts to corporations and wealthy business-owners will pump up the economy and deliver more jobs and higher wages to voters who, polls show, are deeply skeptical* of the tax plan.”
washingtonpost.com
*Because it’s a lie that even Republican politicians don’t believe. They’re just looting the country to benefit their donors.
re: #212 HappyWarrior
Yeah wasn’t trying to dismiss you there but yeah I thought Huntsman was the least rotten apple in 2012. I’ve since been proven wrong.
Huntsman may have been the least objectionable GOP candidate in 2012. One may as well ask who was the least evil top Nazi.
IIRC this supposed ‘moderate’ wanted to completely eliminate the capital gains tax. That’s kind of like a RWNJ equivalent to the modest proposal of nationalizing all means of production.
re: #204 Charles Johnson
He seems nice.
Wanna know how to avoid sexual harassment?
Finish my laundry!— Todd Wood (@DeadWoodMedia1) November 26, 2017
re: #215 EPR-radar
Huntsman may have been the least objectionable GOP candidate in 2012. One may as well ask who was the least evil top Nazi.
I totally hear ya.
re: #207 Belafon
Will Flynn accept? I suspect Mueller has more stuff on him, with stiffer penalties, that he can charge him with. And his son.
Nothing is off the board for this ring of gangsters.
Tonight—a Friday night—in Louisville, Kentucky, *1000 people* turned out for a rally against the GOP tax bill. Don’t tell me the public isn’t up in arms against this monster. 1/ pic.twitter.com/XfiEo17xxl
— Ben Wikler (@benwikler) December 2, 2017
re: #214 jaunte
*Because it’s a lie that even Republican politicians don’t believe. They’re just looting the country to benefit their donors.
Here it is: 500 pages of special interest provisions, written in back rooms with lobbyists and no time for senators – let alone the American people – to read it before voting. We need to start over and work together to cut taxes for working people, not corporations. pic.twitter.com/qKjhNIlwgK
— Sherrod Brown (@SenSherrodBrown) December 2, 2017
re: #213 HappyWarrior
Then trump pardons both of them.
re: #216 teleskiguy
He seems nice.
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re: #222 Backwoods_Sleuth
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re: #218 Skip Intro
Nothing is off the board for this ring of gangsters.
This is the part of investigations into mob bosses where important witnesses often start dying in strange circumstances. It wouldn’t surprise me a bit to see that happen here in Trumpland.
re: #223 Skip Intro
Then trump pardons both of them.
We shall see what happens. We’re not out of the woods by any means I do agree.
Seen on C-SPAN2: Senate blocks @SenSanders amendment on Social Security, Medicare & Medicaid, 46-54. https://t.co/CBfZWAWmtt #TaxReform pic.twitter.com/JAPBlGl44E
— CSPAN (@cspan) December 2, 2017
re: #223 Skip Intro
And then they are both compelled to testify, no taking the 5th.
re: #230 Charles Johnson
We don’t need to have Democrats straying on votes like this. I don’t care if it won’t change the outcome, show some unity dammit!
Hmm… haven’t heard any tidbits on how the WH holiday party for the press went other than that it was fairly subdued.
The GOP is at the ‘stripping the copper wiring from the house’ phase of their party’s life.
— Shiro Kabocha (@jdubya65) December 2, 2017
Every Republican senator, including Corker, voted against waiting until Monday to vote on the tax bill.
— Steven Dennis (@StevenTDennis) December 2, 2017
There are no shades of gray.
Uh oh. Mrs. Beasley has fallen off the terrace and disappeared. Chaos is going to ensue people.
Oh and fuck the Republicans.
re: #231 JordanRules
And then they are both compelled to testify, no taking the 5th.
Trump declares martial law, dissolves the courts in favor of military tribunals.
Don’t underestimate what trump will do to save his ass, or what Repubicans will let him do.
re: #236 plansbandc
Uh oh. Mrs. Beasley has fallen off the terrace and disappeared. Chaos is going to ensue people.
Oh and fuck the Republicans.
“And for the rest, I hold that the GOP must be destroyed.”
re: #235 jaunte
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Plenty of sadomasochism without a safeword, though…
Maybe Trump’s cult members will realize how badly they screwed up when the GOP cuts their Social Security and Medicare. But probably not.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) December 2, 2017
re: #240 Charles Johnson
They won’t. Rush and Alex and FNC will be there to blame the Dems.
re: #241 JordanRules
I know it’s crazy, but how much crazier is it from what we’ve already seen him do?
here’s a clip of Sen Bennet’s righteous rant in the Senate today:
This senator just schooled Republicans on what happened last time they instituted tax cuts pic.twitter.com/UrFsgRXiTj
— NowThis (@nowthisnews) December 2, 2017
re: #242 HappyWarrior
They won’t. Rush and Alex and FNC will be there to blame the Dems.
It will all be the fault of Obama, Hillary, and the Deep State.
Special Counsel Mueller takes lying and obstruction very seriously. Very.
— Preet Bharara (@PreetBharara) December 1, 2017
I will march in the damn streets again if I have to. The people’s voices will be heard, today and every day forward, election year or not.
Vote NO on this #GOPTaxScam.— John Dingell (@JohnDingell) December 2, 2017
re: #246 Backwoods_Sleuth
I hope he has good bodyguards.
re: #244 Backwoods_Sleuth
here’s a clip of Sen Bennet’s righteous rant in the Senate today:
Ski, you should be proud.
re: #246 Backwoods_Sleuth
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The first commandment of being a prosecutor: Thou shalt not fuck with my investigation.
re: #246 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Which is what makes it so hilarious, all the wingnuts who spent the previous two years screaming that Hillary “lied” to the FBI and so deserved a long prison sentence are now treating it as no big deal.
re: #251 Targetpractice
Which is what makes it so hilarious, all the wingnuts who spent the previous two years screaming that Hillary “lied” to the FBI and so deserved a long prison sentence are now treating it as no big deal.
Remember Hannity excusing Papadopoulis, oh he’s just a kid. Good thing Flynn didbfvput mustard on a burger.
How many of you would sign a 500 page contract without reading it? That is basically what is going on right now. #GOPTaxScam
— Corrosive Joi (@corrosivejoi) December 2, 2017
The @SenateGOP just voted against protecting Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security from future cuts. Make no mistake: they’re on the chopping block next in the GOP Congress. #GOPTaxScam
— Elizabeth Warren (@SenWarren) December 2, 2017
Woah…look who finally came around to realizing what Charles saw back in 2009:
The tea party was never about anything, except angry Boomers wanting more transfer payments and being mad at a black president. https://t.co/52jjAlKL4W
— Tom Nichols (@RadioFreeTom) December 2, 2017
re: #211 Charles Johnson
“Experimental journalism” LOL
Journalism is not a place that needs experiments.
re: #209 Charles Johnson
That Huffington Post article is one monumental exercise in [redacted due to deference that your Website is a family-oriented place].
What the flip is a “metamodernist”
.@SenJohnMcCain says he cares about regular order, then votes for a bill outside of regular order.@JeffFlake says he cares about debt, then votes for $1.5 trillion in debt.@SenatorCollins says she cares about healthcare, then votes for a bill killing Obamacare.#TaxScamBill
— Matty Ice (@MattyIceUS) December 2, 2017
Caught up with Sen. Thune in the hallway. He said the delay to tonight’s tax vote is because that manager’s amendment had budgetary scoring issues, had to raise the corporate repatriation figure and tweak other (unidentified) parts to satisfy budget rules.
— Colin Wilhelm (@colinwilhelm) December 2, 2017
Is this a joke? They’re still making changes? https://t.co/IzWDUYF6aV
— Topher Spiro (@TopherSpiro) December 2, 2017
re: #254 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Hey now, Yertle wrote a promise to Collins that those cuts wouldn’t happen. You’re not suggesting his a liar, are ya?
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re: #259 Backwoods_Sleuth
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GOP can’t spare a moment to address CHIP funding expiring, will burn midnight oil trying to get a massive cash grab passed.
But hey, “Both Sides.”///////
Right Wingers like @Avik think you’re ignorant.
But even if you are, there’s this thing called the Interwebs.
The #FoundingFathers followed #RegularOrder. pic.twitter.com/b3Qb7zCC7I— Miriam Heddy (@miri_iron) December 2, 2017
re: #243 Skip Intro
Oh I definitely don’t anticipate free and fair elections in 2018 and I know how much more quickly the evil can continue to ramp up. But I’ve also seen a people rise from slavery and give us the great 44th President.
Hope is strategic.
re: #219 Backwoods_Sleuth
I was just talking to my son. He said the grad students at the University of Kentucky had a protest on Wednesday, and some of the professors headed to DC today to talk about the tax bill as much as they could.
This is like NASA launching a Jupiter mission then making back of the cuff calculations on how to get there, with significant input from flat earthers and young earth creationists.
re: #257 Anymouse 🌹
That Huffington Post article is one monumental exercise in [redacted due to deference that your Website is a family-oriented place].
What the flip is a “metamodernist”
This is why I always get cranky when people post Seth Abramson’s tweets. He’s a left wing con man.
re: #223 Skip Intro
Then trump pardons both of them.
And a pardon, if they accept, means they have to testify. It doesn’t save Trump.
Okay this is absurd. One page of the new #GOPTaxPlan is crossed out with an ex. Another page is just a line. Is that a crossout? Is this page part of the bill?
WHY AM I ASKING THESE QUESTIONS HOURS BEFORE WE VOTE ON IT?? #GOPTaxScam pic.twitter.com/57Qbi7gT5F— Senator Bob Menendez (@SenatorMenendez) December 1, 2017
Here’s how the sausage of the rich gets made. https://t.co/Bnbqfhpz3y
— Open Culture (@openculture) December 2, 2017
re: #265 Skip Intro
This is like NASA launching a Jupiter mission then making back of the cuff calculations on how to get there, with significant input from flat earthers and young earth creationists.
“Ah, fuck it, we’ll just wing it. We got our grant money.”
re: #265 Skip Intro
This is like NASA launching a Jupiter mission then making back of the cuff calculations on how to get there, with significant input from flat earthers and young earth creationists.
“Fuck it, we’ll do it live.”
re: #255 Interesting Times
Woah…look who finally came around to realizing what Charles saw back in 2009:
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Tom Nichols is dead to me.
re: #268 jaunte
I’ve argued this before but right wing interpretations of capitalism is how we get people who want to destroy the whole capitalist system.
Trickle down economics actually is a great word for it because the rich piss on you and then tell you it’s just water drops.
re: #270 Targetpractice
“Fuck it, we’ll do it live.”
“Ah, hell, just make the changes in Production.”
re: #260 Targetpractice
Hey now, Yertle wrote a promise to Collins that those cuts wouldn’t happen. You’re not suggesting his a liar, are ya?
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She should ask Kentucky miners about him keeping promises.
Trump’s lawyer Ty Cobb: “Nothing about the guilty plea or the charge implicates anyone other than Mr. Flynn.” pic.twitter.com/vk7Hx9pOm0
— Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur) December 1, 2017
Trump’s attorney literally issued a statement in comic sans. In a vaudeville show, this is the part where someone’s dragged offstage with a giant hook. https://t.co/dFISJUuTQT
— shauna (@goldengateblond) December 2, 2017
By tying itself to a travesty of a tax bill and a disastrous POTUS, who hangs by a thread, the GOP is committing historical suicide.
— Rob Reiner (@robreiner) December 2, 2017
Meanwhile, in outer space …
After 37 years, Voyager 1 has fired up its trajectory thrusters
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I think this action by Republicans is because of two things. The first is obviously the donors saying give us money or we won’t give you any. But the second is that Republicans have been scared by the elections since the beginning of the year. They’ve had to fight for ones they should win easily, and they got shellacked in VA. They keep losing on Oklahoma. They know what’s coming next November, and all they can think to do is pile money on top of themselves in hopes of surviving the metaphorical bomb that will go off.
re: #279 wheat-dogg
Meanwhile, in outer space …
After 37 years, Voyager 1 has fired up its trajectory thrusters
arstechnica.com
They really don’t make those things like they used to. Go get ‘em, Voyager.
When I get stressed out while I’m at the computer, I sometimes go watch videos by Theme Park Reviews. The guy who runs the site is pretty funny, they sometimes review really strange rides (many in China and Japan), and most of the coasters are pretty intense. I was watching tonight because I’m feeling helpless and scared about the tax bill. Now I’m listening to Urlich Schnauss’s first couple records.
re: #282 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
They really don’t make those things like they used to. Go get ‘em, Voyager.
The Mars rover was only supposed to last 90 days, so I think NASA is still making them that way.
re: #282 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
They really don’t make those things like they used to. Go get ‘em, Voyager.
Yeah, house calls are right out.
re: #281 Belafon
I think this action by Republicans is because of two things. The first is obviously the donors saying give us money or we won’t give you any. But the second is that Republicans have been scared by the elections since the beginning of the year. They’ve had to fight for ones they should win easily, and they got shellacked in VA. They keep losing on Oklahoma. They know what’s coming next November, and all they can think to do is pile money on top of themselves in hopes of surviving the metaphorical bomb that is coming.
I really think this is correct. They are trying to get as much loot and favors for their donors as they can before this whole administration goes kablooey.
re: #284 Belafon
The Mars rover was only supposed to last 90 days, so I think NASA is still making them that way.
This is true. Mars rovers have done really well in the durability department.
Fighting of the despair with booze, but tomorrow always comes. My husband threw out his back and can barely move right now. He’s recovering from a heart attack. He MUST exercise, but he can’t. The walls are closing in. He has diabetes also. When we can’t afford insurance after this Republican shitfest, Insulin will cost at least $500 a month. Probably a thousand as the merciless insurance companies jack up the price. We are about to be thrown into the dumpster and Republicans could not give one shit.
This is not how either one of us ever thought our country would turn out. Jesus.
Fuck.
re: #288 plansbandc
Two years ago my biggest worry was the drought. Then out of nowhere comes this insane hound from hell and his acolytes and the whole country goes to shit in less than a year.
And just to put the cherry on top of the shit sundae the drought has come back.
Senator Sanders put an amendment in front of the Republicans to not cut Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security and it was rejected.
Make no mistake. For this bill to live, the GOP is willing to let us die.#TaxScamBill— Nick Jack Pappas (@Pappiness) December 2, 2017
I can’t believe this is real, a tax break for private jet owners: “No tax shall be imposed…on any amounts paid by an aircraft owner for aircraft management service related to…maintenance and support of the aircraft owner’s aircraft or flights on the aircraft owner’s aircraft” pic.twitter.com/xz54FlprrD
— Roberto Ferdman (@robferdman) December 2, 2017
A tax break for private jet owners. I cannot wait to vote these people out next year. https://t.co/SiWIQQQROR
— Brandon Friedman (@BFriedmanDC) December 2, 2017
Die, peasants.
America will truly be great again when a tax bill, written by lobbyists and passed by Senators who haven’t read it, is signed by a president who got elected by colluding with a foreign government
— Michael Cohen (@speechboy71) December 2, 2017
re: #291 jaunte
An excellent tactic right now would be to keep generating amendments that demonstrate all the permutations of how this cut isn’t about small businesses, the middle class, et cetera. Keep trying to carve out protections and benefits for little guys, and make the GOP vote them down.
We might not have the votes to stop them, ultimately…but make them show who they are and what they want.
Let all the poison in the muck come to the surface.
re: #293 jaunte
A tax break for private jet owners. I cannot wait to vote these people out next year.
I can’t believe this is real, a tax break for private jet owners: “No tax shall be imposed…on any amounts paid by an aircraft owner for aircraft management service related to…maintenance and support of the aircraft owner’s aircraft or flights on the aircraft owner’s aircraft” pic.twitter.com/xz54FlprrD
— Roberto Ferdman (@robferdman) December 2, 2017
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Die, peasants.
Is there nothing for anti-fouling paint for yachts? Not every billionaire likes flying, ya’ know.
re: #273 HappyWarrior
I’ve argued this before but right wing interpretations of capitalism is how we get people who want to destroy the whole capitalist system.
It’s interesting how the people who hate Marx the most work so hard to prove Marx’s analysis of capitalism was the correct one.
Party for the rich, by the rich, & gullible idiots who hate black people, immigrants, lgbt people, and liberals.
re: #297 Romantic Heretic
It’s interesting how the people who hate Marx the most work so hard to prove Marx’s analysis of capitalism was the correct one.
You said it much better then I could, thanks RH.
Prez Trump mailed this to Orrin Hatch. #maga pic.twitter.com/MgNrvL3tIU
— Victor Bergermeister Meisterberger IV (@VicBergerIV) December 2, 2017
I was just handed a 479-page tax bill a few hours before the vote. One page literally has hand scribbled policy changes on it that can’t be read. This is Washington, D.C. at its worst. Montanans deserve so much better. pic.twitter.com/q6lTpXoXS0
— Senator Jon Tester (@SenatorTester) December 2, 2017
The screenplays for every movie you’ve ever seen have had more considered review than the script for our entire economy. https://t.co/5ETQtqMINB
— Franklin Leonard (@franklinleonard) December 2, 2017
We weren’t expecting the U.S. Senate to produce a Sharknado sequel.
He resigned as the president of the College Republicans at Washington State after he was spotted at a white nationalist rally in Charlottesville.
He was just re-elected to lead the chapter: https://t.co/Kn51SPEQIx— adam harris (@AdamHSays) December 2, 2017
I can’t believe this is real, a tax break for private jet owners: “No tax shall be imposed…on any amounts paid by an aircraft owner for aircraft management service related to…maintenance and support of the aircraft owner’s aircraft or flights on the aircraft owner’s aircraft” pic.twitter.com/xz54FlprrD
— Roberto Ferdman (@robferdman) December 2, 2017
re: #302 JordanRules
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re: #302 JordanRules
The young right is getting worse.
re: #302 JordanRules
Young Nazis taking over the GOP. As bad as it is now it’s going to a hell of a lot worse.
re: #306 Skip Intro
Young Nazis taking over the GOP. As bad as it is now it’s going to a hell of a lot worse.
We’ll have openly Nazi candidates if not already.
re: #304 Decatur Deb
Let’s hear again how cool it’s going to be if only the boomers die off.
Yeah people who think that way are foolish.
re: #306 Skip Intro
Young Nazis taking over the GOP. As bad as it is now it’s going to a hell of a lot worse.
The only person afraid of Mike Flynn’s cooperation with Mueller is Barack Obama — Flynn spent much longer working for Obama than he did for Trump
— Jacob Wohl (@JacobAWohl) December 2, 2017
I still love that you can shorten your name to “jawohl” https://t.co/gtpKZP9XOk
— Adam Weinstein (@AdamWeinstein) December 2, 2017
re: #309 jaunte
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re: #306 Skip Intro
Nazis have been all up in the GOP, on police forces all over America etc, etc.
re: #315 Romantic Heretic
There’s that damned song in my head again.
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re: #304 Decatur Deb
Hell, I still want boomers running for office too!
Civic engagement for everyone, at any age.
re: #317 JordanRules
Hell, I still want boomers running for office too!
Civic engagement for everyone, at any age.
As long as someone is sane and supports compassionate policies, I’m fine with them.
fyi some of the money from the hillsdale college kickback is also a way to fund right wing radio like rush limbaugh. theyre one of his biggest advertisers and stepped in when he lost sponsors after attacking sandra fluke.
— Oliver Willis (@owillis) December 2, 2017
Between Net Neutrality and the Tax Bill, I never want to hear anyone say “elections don’t matter” or that “both parties are the same” ever again.
— Denizcan James (@MrFilmkritik) December 1, 2017
but Hillary gave paid speeches…. https://t.co/s2ZnmGXD1N
— Eric Boehlert (@EricBoehlert) December 2, 2017
A 479-page bill, with major ramifications, rushed through with no hearings and no testimony, with the text not even printed up and only released hours before the vote.
I’m trying to think of a historical precedent for this, but I’m coming up completely blank.— Kevin M. Kruse (@KevinMKruse) December 2, 2017
Would you have liked the bill any better if there’d been a thousand hours of hearings, scores of witnesses and it was printed a week ahead of time? https://t.co/ndmUsX0Di7
— Brit Hume (@brithume) December 2, 2017
The method reveals the motive, Brit. Muggings are always fast-paced. https://t.co/ybO4TixNBJ
— Andy Richter (@AndyRichter) December 2, 2017
re: #324 jaunte
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It’s got electrolytes.
— Frankincensed (@goddamnedfrank) December 2, 2017
re: #314 JordanRules
Nazis have been all up in the GOP, on police forces all over America etc, etc.
When I compared what was happening to 1930’s Germany, my RW brother mocked me and declaimed that anyone who resorts to Nazi comparisons has lost the argument. Looks like the Republicans are infested with actual real life Nazis. So we are transitioning from Ayn Rand sociopaths like McConnell and Ryan who worship the power of wealth to hate-infused racist sociopaths like Congressman Steven King with Trump as the intermediary who has a foot in both camps.
The CBO score of the revised Senate tax bill just landed. It raises 10-year deficits by $1.474 trillion.https://t.co/83q66zYfPT
— Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur) December 2, 2017
re: #328 Hecuba’s daughter
When I compared what was happening to 1930’s Germany, my RW brother mocked me and declaimed that anyone who resorts to Nazi comparisons has lost the argument. Looks like the Republicans are infested with actual real life Nazis. So we are transitioning from Ayn Rand sociopaths like McConnell and Ryan who worship the power of wealth to hate-infused racist sociopaths like Congressman Steven King with Trump as the intermediary who has a foot in both camps.
Yep guys like King are going to be the mainstream of the party. Fewer and fewer Millenais may associate with the GOP but those who are very very very racist. and they will be leading the party in the years to come.
re: #328 Hecuba’s daughter
Does your brother understand that declaring the other side has lost the argument isn’t actually an argument?
re: #329 FormerDirtDart
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Which version of the Senate bill? 6:30 PM, 6:38 PM, 6:46 PM, 6:55 PM, 7:02 PM…
I am taking just a smidge of comfort inn the fact that we’re pushing within a few minutes of midnight and there is still *something* keeping the Shit Sandwich Act of 2017 from getting a final vote rammed through.
Every minute it stays exposed to scrutiny makes this thing look worse to the voters of 2018 and 2020, and the GOP knows it.
And they STILL have to make anything that survives tonight pass through conference committee.
I’m getting juiced up to go stand outside in DC and make noise. Who’s coming?
re: #288 plansbandc
Fighting of the despair with booze, but tomorrow always comes. My husband threw out his back and can barely move right now. He’s recovering from a heart attack. He MUST exercise, but he can’t. The walls are closing in. He has diabetes also. When we can’t afford insurance after this Republican shitfest, Insulin will cost at least $500 a month. Probably a thousand as the merciless insurance companies jack up the price. We are about to be thrown into the dumpster and Republicans could not give one shit.
This is not how either one of us ever thought our country would turn out. Jesus.
Fuck.
I’m terribly sorry to hear about your husband’s plight.
As for the GOP “shitfest,” it ain’t over yet for the Democrats.
re: #331 jaunte
Does your brother understand that declaring the other side has lost the argument isn’t actually an argument?
He claims he is repeating what others far more intelligent have said. OTOH, after the Democratic convention, he is the one who said to us that the “Democrat” convention appeared to be orchestrated by Goebbels. He reassured us that the tax plan would lead to 4% economic growth. It is amazing how he regurgitates all the wing nut memes; but living in Texas can do that to you.
On a 50/50 vote on an amendment, does Mike Pence have to come in and break the tie?
re: #216 teleskiguy
Dude jokes about beating women. Reported his sorry ass.
Left as the last lonely comment on the previous thread:
re: #328 Hecuba’s daughter
When I compared what was happening to 1930’s Germany, my RW brother mocked me and declaimed that anyone who resorts to Nazi comparisons has lost the argument. Looks like the Republicans are infested with actual real life Nazis. So we are transitioning from Ayn Rand sociopaths like McConnell and Ryan who worship the power of wealth to hate-infused racist sociopaths like Congressman Steven King with Trump as the intermediary who has a foot in both camps.
re: #339 Anymouse 🌹
Mike Godwin revoked that rule, considering we’re dealing with actual Nazis.
A guinea pig for Curious Lurker:
Pig asleep at the helm while I finished some files for publishing. #guineapig pic.twitter.com/pcZtquRpqm
— Lil’ Holly Ham✨🐹🎄 (@HammyTeaTime) December 2, 2017
re: #334 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
Which version of the Senate bill? 6:30 PM, 6:38 PM, 6:46 PM, 6:55 PM, 7:02 PM…
I totally store that. It’s perfect. Bravo!!
Which version of the Senate bill? 6:30 PM, 6:38 PM, 6:46 PM, 6:55 PM, 7:02 PM…
— MsJoanne (@MsJoanne) December 2, 2017
re: #280 Skip Intro
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That dude used to be a regular at Madison Square Garden for Knicks games. He made those big signs to cheer on Ewing, Oakley, Mase and Starks. I used to sit near him.
re: #309 jaunte
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— Jeff Furlington rejects fascism (@FurlingtonJeff) December 2, 2017
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