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Charles Johnson  Dec 2, 2017 • 8:22:40pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 2, 2017 • 8:26:58pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

Admittedly rhetorical question, how do you get 500k to look that good that large? Sharper than FB. Downstairs
littlegreenfootballs.com

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Kragar  Dec 2, 2017 • 8:28:32pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

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Charles Johnson  Dec 2, 2017 • 8:29:07pm
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Belafon  Dec 2, 2017 • 8:30:42pm

I’ve mentioned how red Rockwall is. Democrats hare mostly stayed low, though the Democratic party drives a truck in the Christmas parade. This year, there were three Democratic related entries, including Catherine Krantz, who is running against John Ratcliffe. In 2016, there was only a libertarian candidate.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 2, 2017 • 8:31:43pm

re: #5 Belafon

I’ve mentioned how red Rockwall is. Democrats hare mostly stayed low, though the Democratic party drives a truck in the Christmas parade. This year, there were three Democratic related entries, including Catherine Krantz, who is running against John Ratcliffe. In 2016, there was only a libertarian candidate.

People are really wanting to stick it to these guys. It’s why I’m not totally cynical about our chances. I’m more worried about where we go from there.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 2, 2017 • 8:32:09pm

re: #3 Kragar

I will never take my 80’s back.

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Belafon  Dec 2, 2017 • 8:34:03pm

re: #6 HappyWarrior

People are really wanting to stick it to these guys. It’s why I’m not totally cynical about our chances. I’m more worried about where we go from there.

I think the actual 2016 platform is a good start. Now we can add making the wealthy pay like the rest of us.

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stpaulbear  Dec 2, 2017 • 8:34:47pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

the thing that always impressed me about that video is how lost and overwhelmed the singer looks.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 2, 2017 • 8:35:10pm

re: #8 Belafon

I think the actual 2016 platform is a good start. Now we can add making the wealthy pay like the rest of us.

Right absolutely I agree. We have do our best so amnesia doesn’t set in though and we get another charlatan like Trump. Hopefully, I think Trump’s going to sour people on the GOP brand for a whlie.

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retired cynic  Dec 2, 2017 • 8:35:52pm

re: #10 HappyWarrior

Right absolutely I agree. We have do our best so amnesia doesn’t set in though and we get another charlatan like Trump. Hopefully, I think Trump’s going to sour people on the GOP brand for a whlie.

That’s what I thought about W.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 2, 2017 • 8:37:32pm

re: #11 retired cynic

That’s what I thought about W.

Me too, me too. I really thought that the demographics and the GOP’s general mindset had really killed them electorally but I underestimated Trump in the Rust Belt.

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jaunte  Dec 2, 2017 • 8:37:51pm
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stpaulbear  Dec 2, 2017 • 8:40:23pm

re: #7 Stanley Sea

I will never take my 80’s back.

Heaven 17 - (We Don’t Need This) Fascist Groove Thang

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Interesting Times  Dec 2, 2017 • 8:44:01pm

Thread:

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jaunte  Dec 2, 2017 • 8:44:29pm
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Stanley Sea  Dec 2, 2017 • 8:45:14pm

re: #13 jaunte

re: #14 stpaulbear

I’m doing REM now.

I’ll fight anyone on this.

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Belafon  Dec 2, 2017 • 8:45:31pm

re: #11 retired cynic

That’s what I thought about W.

The problem is that we though the economy would overcome people’s fears of an elected black man. That’s not going to stop me from voting for the best candidate no matter who they are, but lots more people need to do more than go “OK, the economy’s good, so I’ll either protest vote or stay home.”

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HappyWarrior  Dec 2, 2017 • 8:46:54pm

re: #18 Belafon

The problem is that we though the economy would overcome people’s fears of an elected black man. That’s not going to stop me from voting for the best candidate no matter who they are, but lots more people need to do more than go “OK, the economy’s good, so I’ll either protest vote or stay home.”

Well we are experiencing a conflict within the left too. We are going to have to be united though. That’s the only way we’ll beat Trump.

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stpaulbear  Dec 2, 2017 • 8:47:15pm

re: #17 Stanley Sea

I’m doing REM now.

I’ll fight anyone on this.

I’ve actually been doing Elvis Presley today.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 2, 2017 • 8:47:52pm

OT but i finally saw Anthropoid, a movei about they Heydrich Assassination in Prague. Really liked it. Those men and women were so brave.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 2, 2017 • 8:49:29pm

re: #14 stpaulbear

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That brings back memories of KROQ in the early 80s. Still remember the first song I ever heard on it when I moved to Los Angeles—Romeo Void’s Never Say Never and it was uncensored. Now I had NEVER heard anything like KROQ back in Pittsburgh.

Oh, my bible thumping aunt threw a fit when she heard me listening to KROQ. She made me watch Trinity Broadcasting’s “expose” of backward masking where they alleged that playing songs like Stairway To Heaven backward you heard “My Sweet Satan”. Her minister really got into that backward masking shtick. In one sermon he went as far as to play the Mister Ed theme backward and he insisted that we heard “Satan Is Served By This Song”. Frankly I thought he was full of CENSORED…

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retired cynic  Dec 2, 2017 • 8:51:36pm

re: #15 Interesting Times

Thread:

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And the comments are right there with the thread. Good job!

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stpaulbear  Dec 2, 2017 • 8:53:26pm

re: #22 Joe Bacon 🌹

That brings back memories of KROQ in the early 80s. Still remember the first song I ever heard on it when I moved to Los Angeles—Romeo Void’s Never Say Never and it was uncensored. Now I had NEVER heard anything like KROQ back in Pittsburgh.

Oh, my bible thumping aunt threw a fit when she heard me listening to KROQ. She made me watch Trinity Broadcasting’s “expose” of backward masking where they alleged that playing songs like Stairway To Heaven backward you heard “My Sweet Satan”. Her minister really got into that backward masking shtick. In one sermon he went as far as to play the Mister Ed theme backward and he insisted that we heard “Satan Is Served By This Song”. Frankly I thought he was full of CENSORED…

Did you tell your aunt that you played her expose backwards and it said “I am stealing your money”?

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Stanley Sea  Dec 2, 2017 • 8:54:08pm
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teleskiguy  Dec 2, 2017 • 8:54:50pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 2, 2017 • 8:55:47pm

re: #25 Stanley Sea

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I really think this is the worst political scandal involving a President ever. Worse than Watergate, Iran-Contra, etc. The only thing that comes close is the Nixon involvement with the South Vietnamese prior to the presidency but I think it’s worse than taht too.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 2, 2017 • 8:57:10pm

re: #9 stpaulbear

the thing that always impressed me about that video is how lost and overwhelmed the singer looks.

That’s one of the great things about it. The whole thing is so OFF.

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Belafon  Dec 2, 2017 • 8:57:20pm

re: #19 HappyWarrior

Well we are experiencing a conflict within the left too. We are going to have to be united though. That’s the only way we’ll beat Trump.

I did kind of segue from talking about the right to talking about the left. There are a lot of people on the right I consider unreachable. And what will happen to them is their fault. But a number of people in the center and on the left contributed by thinking Hillary would automatically win and thus they could ignore how politics works.

One of my pieces of optimism is that there are a lot of people now aware of what needs to be done. So many women running for office is awesome.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 2, 2017 • 8:57:26pm

re: #24 stpaulbear

Did you tell your aunt that you played her expose backwards and it said “I am stealing your money”?

What truly angered me was that my aunt literally sent Cement Head Paul Crouch and his Cotton Candy Hair wife with the runny mascara THOUSANDS of dollars. She got control of my grandmother’s savings and investments, cashed it in and gave most of it away to these fucking Pulpit Pimps. She cheated my Dad out of what was rightfully his according to Grandma’s will. Dad was FURIOUS and he was in total nuclear reactor meltdown mode when she told him Jesus told her to do that.

This is another reason why I truly HATE churches and I will NEVER step foot in one for the rest of my life!

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Teukka  Dec 2, 2017 • 8:58:54pm

Did this Rolling Stone article get posted yet?
Trump’s Hostile Takeover of Party of Reagan

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HappyWarrior  Dec 2, 2017 • 8:59:06pm

re: #29 Belafon

I did kind of segue from talking about the right to talking about the left. There are a lot of people on the right I consider unreachable. And what will happen to them is their fault. But a number of people in the center and on the left contributed by thinking Hillary would automatically win and thus they could ignore how politics works.

One of my pieces of optimism is that there are a lot of people now aware of what needs to be done. So many women running for office is awesome.

Yeah I saw that here in Virginia this fall. Not only did we have a competitive election for my delegate seat, two Democrats ran for it. I think it’s that energy is why I get annoyed at Sanders when he trashes the party. We elected some truly great people last month.

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JordanRules  Dec 2, 2017 • 8:59:51pm

re: #13 jaunte

Ha, ha! I relate to this so hard.

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Kragar  Dec 2, 2017 • 9:02:18pm

Roll on thunder shine on lightnin’
the days are long and the nights are frightnin’
Nothing matters anyway and that’s the hell of it

Phantom of the Paradise - The Hell of it

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Targetpractice  Dec 2, 2017 • 9:04:46pm

re: #33 Anymouse 🌹

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Oh God, that reminds me of the time several months back when I showed how old I am to my coworkers at my old job by remarking upon that song. Or rather that it had gained popularity as background music for a couple episodes of Dawson’s Creek. To which the young girls at the desk actually asked me what that show was because they’d never heard of it.

Kids these days!//

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 2, 2017 • 9:06:37pm

re: #37 Targetpractice

Oh God, that reminds me of the time several months back when I showed how old I am to my coworkers at my old job by remarking upon that song. Or rather that it had gained popularity as background music for a couple episodes of Dawson’s Creek. To which the young girls at the desk actually asked me what that show was because they’d never heard of it.

Kids these days!//

Disclosing my age, I remember the when the DuMont network had the only commercial TV station in Pittsburgh…

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meteor  Dec 2, 2017 • 9:07:23pm

Reposting this from the last thread:

I’m furious. Tonight, having taken a nap in the evening, I got up and figured I’d go back to working on this script I’ve been writing. I use Libre Office because it’s free.

On my last effort, earlier in the day, I was up to page 485. This is what I got when I tried to open the document a few minutes ago:

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I could scream.

I haven’t been able to open the thumb drive on which I had a backup copy stored. I’ll try again tomorrow.

Right now, I need my rest.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 2, 2017 • 9:09:10pm

re: #31 Teukka

Did this Rolling Stone article get posted yet?
Trump’s Hostile Takeover of Party of Reagan

Reagan always BSed about America being “the Shining City on a Hill”

Trump turned it into a sewer pouring his narcissistic racist garbage out to the whole world.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 2, 2017 • 9:09:53pm

re: #37 Targetpractice

Oh God, that reminds me of the time several months back when I showed how old I am to my coworkers at my old job by remarking upon that song. Or rather that it had gained popularity as background music for a couple episodes of Dawson’s Creek. To which the young girls at the desk actually asked me what that show was because they’d never heard of it.

Kids these days!//

Leah Nash spoke about that song once.

She said her group recorded it as a demo on cassette and sent it in to a record company. They never heard back.

A couple years later, she was sitting in a community college course where the same record company’s talent scout was speaking on how to make a good demo tape.

He said he carried this tape around in his car for a couple years and frequently played it, then played her song for the class. She jumped up and said “Hey, that’s my song!”

After class, the exec signed her group.

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Targetpractice  Dec 2, 2017 • 9:09:55pm

Think the only thing sadder was when my sister pointed out to me that this year marks the 20th anniversary of the premiere of Buffy the Vampire Slayer on TV. I immediately told her to stop talking because I already feel old enough.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 2, 2017 • 9:10:12pm

re: #37 Targetpractice

Oh God, that reminds me of the time several months back when I showed how old I am to my coworkers at my old job by remarking upon that song. Or rather that it had gained popularity as background music for a couple episodes of Dawson’s Creek. To which the young girls at the desk actually asked me what that show was because they’d never heard of it.

Kids these days!//

We’re getting old.

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 2, 2017 • 9:10:52pm

re: #39 meteor

Um, dare I ask, 400+ pages of script? Try Celtx?
lifehacker.com

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 2, 2017 • 9:11:19pm

re: #40 Joe Bacon 🌹

Reagan always BSed about America being “the Shining City on a Hill”

Trump turned it into a sewer pouring his narcissistic racist garbage out to the whole world.

The only difference between Reagan and Trump is Reagan still used the GOP’s dogwhistles. Reagan’s campaign announcement in Philadelphia, Mississippi was not an accident.

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Kragar  Dec 2, 2017 • 9:12:08pm

ICYMI

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 2, 2017 • 9:12:52pm

re: #42 Targetpractice

Think the only thing sadder was when my sister pointed out to me that this year marks the 20th anniversary of the premiere of Buffy the Vampire Slayer on TV. I immediately told her to stop talking because I already feel old enough.

And Star Trek The Next Generation premiered 30 years ago…

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HappyWarrior  Dec 2, 2017 • 9:13:17pm

re: #45 Anymouse 🌹

The only difference between Reagan and Trump is Reagan still used the GOP’s dogwhistles. Reagan’s campaign announcement in Philadelphia, Mississippi was not an accident.

Nor was the rhetoric that he used that day. Reagan paved the way for Trump.

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Kragar  Dec 2, 2017 • 9:15:45pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 2, 2017 • 9:15:53pm

re: #47 Joe Bacon 🌹

And Star Trek The Next Generation premiered 30 years ago…

And I watched Star Trek the First Iteration when I was a kid (my mother is a big Star Trek fan so she let us stay up late to watch it).

My hair isn’t grey, so there’s that.

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Targetpractice  Dec 2, 2017 • 9:17:44pm

Reagan set the stage for Trump, his presidency really marking the point at which the GOP started really playing to the slack-jawed yokels with their guns and their Bibles. Nixon pioneered the Southern Strategy, but Reagan’s the guy who fine-tuned it and established it as the way forward for the party.

All Trump is is Reagan without the filters.

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meteor  Dec 2, 2017 • 9:17:50pm

re: #44 Unshaken Defiance

Thanks.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 2, 2017 • 9:18:17pm

re: #51 Targetpractice

Reagan set the stage for Trump, his presidency really marking the point at which the GOP started really playing to the slack-jawed yokels with their guns and their Bibles. Nixon pioneered the Southern Strategy, but Reagan’s the guy who fine-tuned it and established it as the way forward for the party.

All Trump is is Reagan without the filters.

Yep.

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TedStriker  Dec 2, 2017 • 9:18:42pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

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I rather like Turk’s take on it:

Scrubs Turk Does the Safety Dance

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Targetpractice  Dec 2, 2017 • 9:18:56pm

re: #47 Joe Bacon 🌹

And Star Trek The Next Generation premiered 30 years ago…

I remember growing up watching TNG, though I’m thankful to say I was too young to remember the first few seasons.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 2, 2017 • 9:19:57pm

re: #55 Targetpractice

I remember growing up watching TNG, though I’m thankful to say I was too young to remember the first few seasons.

You’ll have to get off all our lawns.

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Kragar  Dec 2, 2017 • 9:24:50pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 2, 2017 • 9:25:23pm

re: #50 Anymouse 🌹

And I watched Star Trek the First Iteration when I was a kid (my mother is a big Star Trek fan so she let us stay up late to watch it).

My hair isn’t grey, so there’s that.

I can barely remember Kellogg’s presenting Superman, Roy Rogers, Hopalong Cassidy, Circus Boy, Sky King and Howdy Doody on Saturday mornings.

Mom wouldn’t let me watch Cheyenne because I always screamed at the TV when Clint Walker was getting beaten up by thugs.

77 Sunset Strip, Ed Sullivan, Steve Allen, Perry Como, Lawrence Welk, Jack Paar or Guy Lombardo on New Years Eve. Twilight Zone, Ernie Kovacs, Roller Derby and Boxing on Prime Time TV. Douglas Edwards doing 15 minute CBS evening news broadcasts. Amos N Andy. 64,000 Question, Twenty One’s scandals. Dave Garroway hosting Today. Local kids shows…One Step Beyond scared me much more than Twilight Zone because those episodes were based on actual occurrences…Memories…

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BeachDem  Dec 2, 2017 • 9:26:23pm

re: #15 Interesting Times

Thread:

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Great thread. And the comments that sort of say it all

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Charles Johnson  Dec 2, 2017 • 9:32:47pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 2, 2017 • 9:34:42pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 2, 2017 • 9:35:41pm

re: #60 Charles Johnson

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Gah.

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whitebeach  Dec 2, 2017 • 9:37:40pm

All right, I’m gonna bitch about something a little OT. Watched two big college f-ball games today, Auburn-Georgia and Wisconsin-Ohio State. Not bad games. But at the end of halftime in both games, comes out two teenage kids to compete throwing footballs through about a four-foot hole in a big facsimile Dr. Pepper can ten yards away. Timed event, most throws through the hole in the time wins. Both of these involved a girl against a guy. Girl won in the SEC game, guy in the Big Ten. Nobody could throw worth a rat’s ass. This was a pure made for TV short entertainment, except that the winner in each case received a $100,000 scholarship from Dr. Pepper.

There are many things to say about this, but I’ll just mention two or three. First, television money corrupts everything in our society. Look at this thing: Kids vying for a hundred thousand bucks throwing dumbass footballs through dumbass holes in a dumbass fake soft drink can, while a thousand other kids with more brains are working their butts off to make their lives of value to all of us. Second, why the fuck should any kid in the richest nation on earth need a hundred thousand bucks to go to college? Third … Ah, fuck it. Sometimes I wish I’d been born in France. Or Sweden. Or Ireland.

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scottslemmons  Dec 2, 2017 • 9:37:53pm

re: #60 Charles Johnson

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Why, it is as if the entire Republican Party has been taken over wholesale by a Russian dictator.

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jaunte  Dec 2, 2017 • 9:37:58pm

And you might say to yourself, “My God, what have I done?”

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 2, 2017 • 9:42:01pm

re: #57 Kragar

In my last election, I beat the gun shop owner by four votes. In his previous election, he won by lot (cutting a card deck) over the person he ran against because of a tie.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 2, 2017 • 9:42:45pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 2, 2017 • 9:47:59pm

Tonight’s culinary delight from my wife will be chicken vindaloo.

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teleskiguy  Dec 2, 2017 • 9:52:07pm

re: #61 Charles Johnson

That ruined a great song.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 2, 2017 • 9:52:27pm

Right wingers like Jack Posobiec started a vicious smear campaign against Joy Reid, and it’s beginning to get picked up by mainstream media now.

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jeffreyw  Dec 2, 2017 • 10:00:26pm

re: #68 Anymouse 🌹

Tonight’s culinary delight from my wife will be chicken vindaloo.

We went with gumbo, again.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 2, 2017 • 10:00:57pm

re: #70 Charles Johnson

Right wingers like Jack Posobiec started a vicious smear campaign against Joy Reid, and it’s beginning to get picked up by mainstream media now.

Lemme guess, the Main Balance Fairy Media is not calling out Mr. Posobiec as a liar (or to be charitable, misinformed).

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teleskiguy  Dec 2, 2017 • 10:03:39pm
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bmoak  Dec 2, 2017 • 10:04:58pm

re: #70 Charles Johnson

Right wingers like Jack Posobiec started a vicious smear campaign against Joy Reid, and it’s beginning to get picked up by mainstream media now.

The Bernie-or-Busters are going all in on this as well, as she dared to be critical of St. Bernard of Burlington and was a Hillary shill all along.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 2, 2017 • 10:05:40pm

The far right and far left are joining forces again in this attack on Joy Reid. She wrote some blog posts years ago in which she referred to Charlie Crist as “Miss Charlie,” to point out the hypocrisy of his anti-gay positions, and they’re calling it “homophobia.”

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 2, 2017 • 10:08:27pm

re: #75 Charles Johnson

The far right and far left are joining forces again in this attack on Joy Reid. She wrote some blog posts years ago in which she referred to Charlie Crist as “Miss Charlie,” to point out the hypocrisy of his anti-gay positions, and they’re calling it “homophobia.”

Personally, I cringe when I hear Senator Lindsay Graham referred to as “Miss Lindsay.” I don’t know if it rises to the level of homophobia, but I put it in the same category of “ni*CLANG.”

I don’t call women “Mister” for the same reason.

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BeachDem  Dec 2, 2017 • 10:20:34pm

And right on cue—the interview guests for the Sunday shows:

Chuck Todd’s House Party—3 Republicans (including the loathsome Lewandowski) and 1 Democrat.

ABC’s “We’re So Sorry, Uncle Donald”—2 Republicans, 1 Democrat (and a panel that includes fucking Christopher Ruddy from Newsmax)

CBS’s “Face Forward and Lie”—3 Republicans and Angus King.

And, Fox, of course—2 Republicans, no Democrats and a panel that includes Karl Rove and Jason Chaffetz.

Guess I’ll sleep in (as usual)

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whitebeach  Dec 2, 2017 • 10:26:34pm

re: #71 jeffreyw

We went with gumbo, again.

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Someday, for your vicious and unforgivable habit of tormenting ordinary people with your food pix, you will be slaving over a red-hot stove in hell, and I will look down from my bosky cloud floating over the Elysian Fields and will put away my dish of ambrosia and my bowl of milk and honey and will call down to you, “Hey, Jeff, why don’t you invite me to dinner?”

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JordanRules  Dec 2, 2017 • 10:26:47pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 2, 2017 • 10:27:43pm

re: #77 BeachDem

And we can almost guarantee here that none of the Republicans or GOP operatives will be significantly challenged on their position vis-a-vis the tax scribble they passed.

Even though Angus King is an independent, he would offer a spirited rebuttal of the bill (if they allow him to, I wouldn’t hold my breath).

Something something corporate media. (To be fair to corporate media, which is more than they deserve, I don’t know how you could run a media outlet like CBS without being a giant corporation in our capitalistic society. But that same corporation is going to first and foremost defend its profits.)

Way back when the FCC first allowed television broadcasting, and only NBC and DuMont were television networks, they could have mandated no advertising on news shows, or that news be part of a public service mandate that theoretically all broadcasters have to fulfill. They did not.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 2, 2017 • 10:31:49pm

Reinstalling Office 2016, because Outlook crapped out (again) … it has some sort of error in it where when you start the program, about five minutes in the program crashes. When you reload it (if that is the next thing you do after the crash), it then runs fine.

This is the second time I have had to reinstall Office. (94% complete now, so I will have to get off when it finishes to restart my computer.)

The last time I did this, my Internet service crapped out in its regularly scheduled unscheduled outage. It took me three days to get Microsoft to help me redo the download.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 2, 2017 • 10:36:27pm

Despite Outlook 2007 no longer being supported as of a few months ago (though Microsoft came out with a security update for it yesterday), I am sorely tempted to go back to that program. At least it’s stable.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 2, 2017 • 10:42:45pm
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teleskiguy  Dec 2, 2017 • 10:54:53pm
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Nyet  Dec 2, 2017 • 10:57:43pm

re: #70 Charles Johnson

and it’s beginning to get picked up by mainstream media now.

That he started it?

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Nyet  Dec 2, 2017 • 10:58:26pm

re: #75 Charles Johnson

The far right and far left are joining forces again in this attack on Joy Reid. She wrote some blog posts years ago in which she referred to Charlie Crist as “Miss Charlie,” to point out the hypocrisy of his anti-gay positions, and they’re calling it “homophobia.”

Ah, that makes it clear.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 2, 2017 • 11:02:36pm

Office stopped at 96% saying “we have a problem (Houston)” (well, I added the Houston part), saying I could retry or ignore. I hit ignore, then it said it was completely installed.

Outlook loaded correctly, giving me my new E-mail. Wait, no it didn’t it just crashed again.

Yesterday I sent on the link someone here gave to Ars Technica and its article about Voyager 1, adding some information about the space probe.

My brother-in-law wrote back this evening with a tongue-in-cheek response:

So what you are saying is that this space probe that is 40 years out of date and not trendy any more, apparently is suddenly a focus for the public relations people at NASA and they are trying to spin this as some sort of happy story.. Its clear however to me that since they are having to spend time and effort in retraining this damn probe that has run amok, its apparent that the damned thing is in need of an “attitude” adjustment….

I suppose it is male since it is referred to as a probe, and therefore was created by men, who were all sexists and it must, therefore, have been, at least symbolically, used to harass or degrade women in the workplace….. Now the truth is coming out….This would also explain how and why this Voyager (obviously unable to have a stable home life) has been on the move all of this time and why it was so devotedly talked about by all of the men who worked in the television news industry as well as Hollywood (they even made a star trek movie about a voyager who came back to destroy earth…and it had a female slave servant in the movie which showed its ideal role model of women to be unequal and biased….) but anyway, see…

this voyager male sexist and sexually abusive space sex probe with a bad attitude spent years as the honored object of affection and admiration by all of these convicted or at least accused news and Hollywood type sexual predator male persons… therefore the Voyager must have a whole list of females who were in some way harmed by association or a lack of association with it….May I recommend that we let Kim Jung Ill blast the damn thing to vapor with his big shiny Type-Oh-Dong- Mark 15 Atomic Pocket Rocket and do the world a favor…

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Nyet  Dec 2, 2017 • 11:02:38pm

OK, what she wrote rises to the level of distasteful and something one should apologize for, but no more than that. IMHO.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 2, 2017 • 11:09:25pm

Dinner has arrived. Yum.

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teleskiguy  Dec 2, 2017 • 11:09:57pm

Wait for it…

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teleskiguy  Dec 2, 2017 • 11:13:10pm

SUP DUDE!

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 2, 2017 • 11:14:26pm

The Nebraska Democratic Party is already on the GOP tax giveaway with a new programme designed to engage all the state’s voters. Since I already hold (a very minor) office, I already engage the voters, but this is the sort of thing we need to do here.

… .

Dear Democrats,

The Republican Party just gave the biggest government handout in decades to millionaires and billionaires while pretending they are giving tax cuts to our families.
We are angry and ready to take back the Congress for the people.
The Nebraska Democratic Party, along with national Democrats, are launching a new Block Captain program.
Sign up to serve as a Block Captain (link removed)
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teleskiguy  Dec 2, 2017 • 11:19:48pm
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teleskiguy  Dec 2, 2017 • 11:48:26pm

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“But let justice roll down like waters and righteousness like an ever-flowing stream” Amos 5:24

The pee tape is real.

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teleskiguy  Dec 3, 2017 • 12:00:11am
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Kragar  Dec 3, 2017 • 12:12:51am

Tonight in Warhammer:

Ordo Hereticus

“A heretic may see the truth and seek redemption. He may be forgiven his past and be absolved in death. A Traitor can never be forgiven. A Traitor can never find peace in this world or the next. There is nothing as wretched or as hated in all the world as a Traitor.”

Although primarily concerned with monitoring the Ecclesiarchy to prevent its clerics from subverting the Imperium’s delicate political balance between all the different loci of Imperial power, the Ordo Hereticus has expanded its jurisdiction to encompass the other internal threats to the Imperium of Man: witches, mutants, Heretics, Traitors and other human deviants who would threaten the lives, or even worse, the souls, of the Emperor’s subjects. Hereticus Inquisitors are the most feared members of the Inquisition, as their focus is on Mankind itself and they are pitiless towards those they deem to have failed the Emperor or broken His trust. And under the fierce and unflinching gaze of a Hereticus Inquisitor, there are few now alive who have not failed the Master of Mankind in some way in either word or deed. The arrival of an Ordo Hereticus Inquisitor on a world is met with fear and awe, as no one but the Inquisitor himself knows where or upon whom his attentions will fall.

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teleskiguy  Dec 3, 2017 • 12:22:50am

Everyday, they get bolder. By 2020 they’ll be feeding the poor to lions during halftime.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Dec 3, 2017 • 12:25:52am

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teleskiguy  Dec 3, 2017 • 12:51:52am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 3, 2017 • 12:54:07am

re: #10 HappyWarrior

Right absolutely I agree. We have do our best so amnesia doesn’t set in though and we get another charlatan like Trump. Hopefully, I think Trump’s going to sour people on the GOP brand for a whlie.

watch how quickly Republicans start touting their “never trump” creds while quietly ignoring the fact that they supported all of his initiatives and appointments…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 3, 2017 • 12:56:52am

re: #25 Stanley Sea

In other words, by any standard of national betrayal, he’s guilty as sin. Based on what is publicly known.

and what is publicly known about his conflicts of interest and violations of emoluments clause.

but as long as GOP has a majority in Congress, he will face no consequences.

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JordanRules  Dec 3, 2017 • 12:58:33am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 3, 2017 • 12:59:13am

re: #47 Joe Bacon 🌹

And Star Trek The Next Generation premiered 30 years ago…

Original Star Trek 50 years ago.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 3, 2017 • 1:00:50am

re: #102 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and what is publicly known about his conflicts of interest and violations of emoluments clause.

but as long as GOP has a majority in Congress, he will face no consequences.

Unless the GOP sees a bloodbath coming in the polls (see VA and OK for previews of that). Then it will be just like Nixon (get him out before he ruins us).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 3, 2017 • 1:02:26am

re: #50 Anymouse 🌹

And I watched Star Trek the First Iteration when I was a kid (my mother is a big Star Trek fan so she let us stay up late to watch it).

My hair isn’t grey, so there’s that.

mine is still mostly intact and only just going gray (not grey!)

I had to watch Star Trek downstairs on the b/w portable because my folks did not like it

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 3, 2017 • 1:05:03am

re: #58 Joe Bacon 🌹

I can barely remember Kellogg’s presenting Superman, Roy Rogers, Hopalong Cassidy, Circus Boy, Sky King and Howdy Doody on Saturday mornings.

one of my early childhood memories was being really annoyed because Rocky and Bullwinkle was cancelled because JFK got shot and it was on all the channels…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 3, 2017 • 1:08:06am

re: #65 jaunte

And you might say to yourself, “My God, what have I done?”

1989:

I had just come from Europe to visit the US. I was in another part of the world.
My buddy was too drunk to drive home, so he gave me the keys to his car. I found myself behind the wheel of a large automobile.
I could not figure out the seat belt so I asked “How do I work this?”

Where was my beautiful house? Where was by beautiful wife?

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wheat-dogg  Dec 3, 2017 • 1:14:26am

re: #106 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

mine is still mostly intact and only just going gray (not grey!)

I had to watch Star Trek downstairs on the b/w portable because my folks did not like it

My mom never got into SF, because she said she didn’t understand it. My dad OTOH would watch ST:TOS with me every week. I never asked if he liked it. lol

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 3, 2017 • 1:18:11am

re: #80 Anymouse 🌹

And we can almost guarantee here that none of the Republicans or GOP operatives will be significantly challenged on their position vis-a-vis the tax scribble they passed.

enough middle-income people will see some short-term tax benefits from this bill and continue to vote GOP

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 3, 2017 • 1:29:31am

re: #106 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

mine is still mostly intact and only just going gray (not grey!)

I had to watch Star Trek downstairs on the b/w portable because my folks did not like it

My mother’s hair isn’t grey (or gray) either, so maybe mine won’t turn. (My wife’s turned grey in her twenties.)

She’s also a Get Smart! fan, and I have the complete series on DVD, so next time I go to Chicago I’ll take the set with me and we can binge-watch the whole five year’s worth of shows. (Either that, or I can buy another set for her for a gift this year … that might work too.)

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 3, 2017 • 1:31:16am

re: #105 Anymouse 🌹

Unless the GOP sees a bloodbath coming in the polls (see VA and OK for previews of that). Then it will be just like Nixon (get him out before he ruins us).

That’s why the upcoming Alabama Senatorial election may prove to be of importance; ordinarily, I’d totally write it off as an R win. But if…..and that’s a big “if”, naturally…..if Jones can pull off a victory, the GOP might interpret that as a foreshock of a coming earthquake.

What the GOP’s internal polling looks like by, let’s say, late next spring, when primary season begins in earnest, is impossible to foretell of course. But if it really does look bad - and I mean hair-on-fire “OMG we’re gonna get demolished!!” bad - then there’s a possibility the GOP may well start to turn against him because if the internals are bad, really bad, then Trump has become an albatross around their necks and they’ll try to frantically distance themselves from him (while simultaneously trying not to alienate the Trumpista base, LOL).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 3, 2017 • 1:36:30am

re: #112 Dr Lizardo

That’s why the upcoming Alabama Senatorial election may prove to be of importance; ordinarily, I’d totally write it off as an R win. But if…..and that’s a big “if”, naturally…..if Jones can pull off a victory, the GOP might interpret that as a foreshock of a coming earthquake.

Unfortunately, Moore will probably win and the GOP will see that as proof that they can get away with rape and/or murder.

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Lupin  Dec 3, 2017 • 1:38:13am

It’s not only Trump who is unhinged, but about 35% of the US population; therein lies the real problem.

As early as 2002 or 2003, I recall very clearly posting on Billmon’s Whiskey Bar that in 15 or 20 years the US would look like a hybrid of Russia and Brazil. It’s actually taken less time than that. You’re already a full-blown democrature with all the features that characterize what used to be called third-world countries.

Getting rid of Trump, which will happen sooner or later, will not magically make your country better. Only time and education will, and the trend in that respect is not good. As an aside, that is why we left the US in 2005, as I reported on DKos then.

Life in Russia or Brazil is not necessarily a living hell for every citizen, so I’m not talking apocalypse here, but as I write yesterday quoting Stephen King’s DARK TOWER (who like Robert Heinlein and John Brunner may have been somewhat prophetic in that respect), your world has moved on.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 3, 2017 • 1:44:36am

re: #114 Lupin

It’s not only Trump who is unhinged, but about 35% of the US population; therein lies the real problem.

The crazification factor - between one-quarter to one-third of any given population is batshit insane.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 3, 2017 • 1:44:41am

re: #114 Lupin

Well, we’ll have to see. For those who cannot leave (lack of funds, relatives, or needed skills in other countries) we have to try to prevent the fall of night.

Regrettably, those who throw in the towel and leave because they can afford to (rather than stay and fight) actually make it harder for those of us left behind. We don’t have the benefit of you in the fight helping to keep things from “going south.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 3, 2017 • 1:48:05am

re: #115 Dr Lizardo

The crazification factor - between one-quarter to one-third of any given population is batshit insane.

in some populations they tend to keep the cray-cray to themselves, but in the USA they are proud to shout it from the mountaintops, and the media find themselves locked in a competition to engage as many of them as possible.

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Lupin  Dec 3, 2017 • 1:52:16am

re: #115 Dr Lizardo

The crazification factor - between one-quarter to one-third of any given population is batshit insane.

I agree; I don’t kid myself that the same people don’t exist in France, Germany, Sweden, etc., etc., (eg Breivik) but I’d estimate that they’re kept at a manageable 10-15%.

Also in Europe the societal and legal context on guns and hate speech is more restrictive and in effect acts as a fire alarm, if you will.

During the last French elections, I was interested to see on our social media how even hardcore Front National voters rejected some of the most obvious rubbish news (the equivalent of your pizzagate) clearly propagated by Russian or American trolls.

The UK, OTOH, has proved far more gullible (IMHO).

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Lupin  Dec 3, 2017 • 1:56:37am

re: #116 Anymouse 🌹

Well, we’ll have to see. For those who cannot leave (lack of funds, relatives, or needed skills in other countries) we have to try to prevent the fall of night.

Regrettably, those who throw in the towel and leave because they can afford to (rather than stay and fight) actually make it harder for those of us left behind. We don’t have the benefit of you in the fight helping to keep things from “going south.”

Well, to be fair, in my case, I am a French citizen who moved to America in 1978, married an American, and gained dual citizenship. (My wife did the same in the other direction.) So being both dual citizens, and having spent most of our professional lives in the US, our decision to move back to France in 2005 was more “going home” than “bailing out”.

But I will admit that had the US not been on that dramatic societal curve which we identified as early as the days of the Clinton Impeachment, we likely would have stayed there.

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ericblair  Dec 3, 2017 • 2:06:58am

re: #114 Lupin

As early as 2002 or 2003, I recall very clearly posting on Billmon’s Whiskey Bar that in 15 or 20 years the US would look like a hybrid of Russia and Brazil. It’s actually taken less time than that. You’re already a full-blown democrature with all the features that characterize what used to be called third-world countries.

I’m an American overseas as well, and fairly knowledgeable about Russia at least. I have to disagree with this. US institutions are weakening and have been under constant assault for decades by the right, but there is no comparison. In Russia, the institutions are now just props for the oligarchy, and almost the entire press simply takes orders on what to publish from them. Mueller’s investigation would not be allowed to exist, or would simply be a whitewash; the VA elections would have simply been fixed with blatant ballot stuffing and outright lying about the results; and lawmakers who voted against ACA repeal would be arrested, hounded out of office, and/or exiled.

This is proving confusing to the Russian oligarchs, who expected Trump to rule as a dictator and give the Russian government what they wanted with little effort. Based on their previous thinking, they’ll interpret Mueller’s investigation and institutional resistance as an attempted coup by the national security apparatus (“Deep State!”). The idea that anyone takes laws and institutions seriously in America is pretty much incomprehensible to them.

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teleskiguy  Dec 3, 2017 • 2:08:38am

re: #120 ericblair

This analysis from a fellow Lizard made me smile. Thank you.

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teleskiguy  Dec 3, 2017 • 2:10:22am

When Fuckface Von Clownstick fired the FBI director… hopefully it’s fuckin’ dominoes, right?!?

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 3, 2017 • 2:15:01am

re: #118 Lupin

I wonder if that’s because Russian trolls speak better English than they do other languages; obviously, it would make more sense for them to concentrate resources on their biggest perceived foe (ŧhe USA) so English-language skills would be in more demand than say, French or German or Italian.

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ericblair  Dec 3, 2017 • 2:17:47am

re: #121 teleskiguy

This analysis from a fellow Lizard made me smile. Thank you.

Yeah, I mean I have no illusions about the mass of bigots and nutjobs that have outsized influence in the US, how archaic important institutions are, and that things can go pear shaped pretty quickly. But these archaic institutions have a lot of inertia and the dynamics are very different than a country with a new political system that is just waiting to snap right back to the bad old days.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 3, 2017 • 2:18:32am

re: #120 ericblair

I’m an American overseas as well, and fairly knowledgeable about Russia at least.

Ditto here, since 1988, spent a year and a half living in Russia in 92-93 back when it was the wild west with 1,000% inflation.

We make the mistake of addressing Russia in Cold War terms, when that is no longer the case. The USSR was about exporting its influence and ideology to the entire world, Putin is more interested in restoring the old Russian Empire or at least its political-economic counterpart.

And we tend to overlook the issue of the Russian diaspora: the millions of ethnic Russians left stranded outside their native country since the demise of the USSR. They used to be a pampered minority with access to the best jobs and education. Now the opposite is often true and that rankles.

And the role of the diaspora is key in understanding the unrest in Ukraine and Crimea and could also become a catalyst in other areas as well.

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Lupin  Dec 3, 2017 • 2:19:32am

re: #120 ericblair

I’m an American overseas as well, and fairly knowledgeable about Russia at least. I have to disagree with this. US institutions are weakening and have been under constant assault for decades by the right, but there is no comparison. In Russia, the institutions are now just props for the oligarchy, and almost the entire press simply takes orders on what to publish from them. Mueller’s investigation would not be allowed to exist, or would simply be a whitewash; the VA elections would have simply been fixed with blatant ballot stuffing and outright lying about the results; and lawmakers who voted against ACA repeal would be arrested, hounded out of office, and/or exiled.

This is proving confusing to the Russian oligarchs, who expected Trump to rule as a dictator and give the Russian government what they wanted with little effort. Based on their previous thinking, they’ll interpret Mueller’s investigation and institutional resistance as an attempted coup by the national security apparatus (“Deep State!”). The idea that anyone takes laws and institutions seriously in America is pretty much incomprehensible to them.

You’re quite right of course, and i might add our entertainment is a lot better than Brazilian TV. :-)

That said, we are on a curve towards a kleptocratic oligarchy, even if we’re not as bad as Russia (yet). Also our kleptocrats may be better than the Russian oligarchs at getting what they want without resorting to brute force. In effect, the path taken may be dissimilar, but the results may end up being the same.

Last night I watched an old episode of FAWLTY TOWERS (The Workers) and it struck me that Trump’s governing style has a lot in common with Basil’s.

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Lupin  Dec 3, 2017 • 2:22:15am

re: #123 Dr Lizardo

I wonder if that’s because Russian trolls speak better English than they do other languages; obviously, it would make more sense for them to concentrate resources on their biggest perceived foe (ŧhe USA) so English-language skills would be in more demand than say, French or German or Italian.

According to recent reports, the Russians seem to be paying Venezuelan trolls to destabilize Spain.

The language barrier may have been a factor quantitatively speaking, but I still saw some really heinous posts in perfect French that got laughed at by (alleged) Front National voters who resented being mistaken for idiots.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 3, 2017 • 2:23:58am

re: #127 Lupin

According to recent reports, the Russians seem to be paying Venezuelan trolls to destabilize Spain.

The language barrier may have been a factor quantitatively speaking, but I still saw some really heinous posts in perfect French that got laughed at by (alleged) Front National voters who resented being mistaken for idiots.

It helps that the Russian bots’ command of written English is generally better than a lot of Tea Partiers.

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ericblair  Dec 3, 2017 • 2:27:07am

re: #123 Dr Lizardo

I wonder if that’s because Russian trolls speak better English than they do other languages; obviously, it would make more sense for them to concentrate resources on their biggest perceived foe (ŧhe USA) so English-language skills would be in more demand than say, French or German or Italian.

Lupin can probably describe it a bit better, but in the latest Presidential election in France, there was a cyberattack and hack of emails dropped right before the election, in the “quiet period” where candidates cannot. It turned out to be a dump of emails and documents seeded with fake incriminating material. The French press explained that the cyberattack occured, that there was no time in the 48 hours before the election to validate any of the information, and they would be cooperating with the election authorities and would not publish them.

The Russian trolls have tried to stir up trouble with the fake Cologne rape story. A girl was supposedly raped by a group of Arabs on New Years, which was hyped up by Russian media and even the Foreign Minister to raise anti-immigrant tensions and prop up the far right. She actually confessed later to being at her boyfriends’ that night and this didn’t happen. The trolls have been constantly pushing anti-immigrant sentiment, especially among ethnic Russian Germans, and supporting Allianz fuer Deutschland, the fascist party. Similar stuff in Italy with the populist Five Star movement.

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Lupin  Dec 3, 2017 • 2:29:40am

re: #128 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It helps that the Russian bots’ command of written English is generally better than a lot of Tea Partiers.

We have our goodly share of xenophobes here in France, but I came out of the recent election with the notion that, despite everything else, they might simply be less gullible, anti-science or simply crazy (or at least fewer of them are).

At the end of the day, it’s worth recalling that Marine Le Pen came in a rather distant third (with a fairly high rate of participation) despite all the propaganda massed behind her. Our situation was somewhat comparable to the Brexit referendum or the recent German election and overall, I’d say our system handled it better.

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teleskiguy  Dec 3, 2017 • 2:30:38am
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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 3, 2017 • 2:30:54am

At the moment, my brother-in-law’s wife who emigrated here from the Soviet Union (but still travels to Russia occasionally - was stranded there during Hurricane Harvey) says she would much rather live here.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 3, 2017 • 2:32:14am

I’m off to bed. Catch y’all later… .

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ericblair  Dec 3, 2017 • 2:32:39am

re: #126 Lupin

That said, we are on a curve towards a kleptocratic oligarchy, even if we’re not as bad as Russia (yet). Also our kleptocrats may be better than the Russian oligarchs at getting what they want without resorting to brute force. In effect, the path taken may be dissimilar, but the results may end up being the same.

Agree: the danger is very very real, and brute force will not be used in the future. They caught the West napping with what is essentially a modern psy op against the entire population, but we need to make sure that everyone knows this, expects this, and protects against this in the future.

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teleskiguy  Dec 3, 2017 • 2:34:30am

re: #124 ericblair

Yeah, I mean I have no illusions about the mass of bigots and nutjobs that have outsized influence in the US, how archaic important institutions are, and that things can go pear shaped pretty quickly. But these archaic institutions have a lot of inertia and the dynamics are very different than a country with a new political system that is just waiting to snap right back to the bad old days.

The “bad old days” in the U.S. are extremely bad. We’re *still* dealing with ramifications of the bad old days of the Civil War. Eek!

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Lupin  Dec 3, 2017 • 2:34:47am

re: #129 ericblair

Lupin can probably describe it a bit better, but in the latest Presidential election in France, there was a cyberattack and hack of emails dropped right before the election, in the “quiet period” where candidates cannot. It turned out to be a dump of emails and documents seeded with fake incriminating material. The French press explained that the cyberattack occurred, that there was no time in the 48 hours before the election to validate any of the information, and they would be cooperating with the

Yes this totally correct. There was worse on 4chan, etc. Between the threats of actual criminal prosecutions and perhaps an ingrained notion of doing the right thing, the French media overall partitioned (or censored, if you will) the crazy out of the public discourse. I sort of expected that. Our system has stronger “fire alarms.”

What I didn’t expect was overall, the rejection by French internet users of the same gross propaganda that was used successfully to torpedo the UK and US votes.

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Lupin  Dec 3, 2017 • 2:41:35am

re: #134 ericblair

Agree: the danger is very very real, and brute force will not be used in the future. They caught the West napping with what is essentially a modern psy op against the entire population, but we need to make sure that everyone knows this, expects this, and protects against this in the future.

It’s hard to do when 1/3rd of the population agrees with the psyops.

I’m left with the notion (somewhat unscientific) that while the US and UK nazis are ready to welcome their fascists overlords, the French fascists are crotchety stubborn bastards who won’t do what they’re told — let’s face it Vichy regime was a spectacular failure.

Reminds me of a funny story. When the Nazis took over France during WWII they decided to “aryanize” the French publishing industry, and to the death camps went some wonderful and dedicated Jewish publishers. The Nazis then appointed a noted Vichyite French author to run one of the “stolen” publishing companies. Nine months later, the man had driven it into bankruptcy.

You look at the Brexiters in the UK or Trump: same thing. They’re Basil Fawltys. Incompetent nazis.

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teleskiguy  Dec 3, 2017 • 2:45:27am

It’s morning here.

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ericblair  Dec 3, 2017 • 2:53:12am

re: #135 teleskiguy

The “bad old days” in the U.S. are extremely bad. We’re *still* dealing with ramifications of the bad old days of the Civil War. Eek!

The psychological descendants of the confederacy and its sympathizers are the 27% nutsos we’re fighting against. They should have been dealt with after the war, but they weren’t. Germany denazified and it mostly worked. We didn’t.

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BigPapa  Dec 3, 2017 • 3:02:57am

re: #35 Dr Lizardo

That was my 80’s.

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teleskiguy  Dec 3, 2017 • 3:04:15am
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Dr Lizardo  Dec 3, 2017 • 3:14:55am

This looks amazing! I’m all too aware of Tonya Harding - I lived in the Portland, OR area for 20 years. I dated a cousin of hers for awhile back in the early 1990’s.

I, Tonya Red Band Trailer (2017) Margot Robbie Tonya Harding Biopic

NSFW - red band trailer for I, Tonya. And Margot Robbie pretty much nailed it.

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teleskiguy  Dec 3, 2017 • 3:18:05am

He’s takin’ a shit.

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teleskiguy  Dec 3, 2017 • 3:19:05am

re: #143 teleskiguy

He also retweeted this from his Press Secretary.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 3, 2017 • 3:19:56am

re: #143 teleskiguy

He’s takin’ a shit.

[Embedded content]

Does he not remember that he admitted in an interview that he asked Comey to stop investigating Flynn? WTF?

I’m pretty sure Trump did in fact admit that he asked Comey to “drop” the Flynn investigation

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teleskiguy  Dec 3, 2017 • 3:21:05am

re: #145 Dr Lizardo

Fuckin’ mind boggling. All the stupids.

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teleskiguy  Dec 3, 2017 • 3:22:52am

Uh? Fuckface Von Clownstick just retweeted Chris Christie. A tweet from last Wednesday.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 3, 2017 • 3:25:51am

re: #143 teleskiguy

I never asked Comey to stop investigating Flynn. Just more Fake News covering another Comey lie!

I never asked him to stop, I just fired him!

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BigPapa  Dec 3, 2017 • 3:30:50am

Live by the Twitter. Die by the Twitter.
Keep tweeting dude.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 3, 2017 • 3:44:35am

re: #143 teleskiguy

I now understand why Mom and Dad shipped little Donnie off to military school. He must have been hell on wheels as a child.

Comey himself said Trump asked him in a private meeting if Comey would be loyal to him. It doesn’t take a genius to understand what the implication was, even if Trump did not specifically say to drop the Flynn probe. Comey demurred, then got fired.

Trump is rewriting history, not unlike a little boy who blames the broken china on the housemaid’s clumsiness.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 3, 2017 • 3:45:33am

Oh, and guess what? The 137 economists who praised the GOP tax plan aren’t really economists.

shareblue.com

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 3, 2017 • 3:51:36am

Trump’s mind is really starting to fail - and with greater frequency and significance due to acute stress levels. In a sane world, the 25th Amendment would be invoked by the cabinet, as it’s obvious to anyone - outside of the most deranged sycophantic cultists - that Trump is simply not fit to be POTUS.

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teleskiguy  Dec 3, 2017 • 3:51:41am

FLOP. SWEAT.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 3, 2017 • 3:52:58am

re: #153 teleskiguy

FLOP. SWEAT.

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Alternatively, “SQUIRREL!!”

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wheat-dogg  Dec 3, 2017 • 3:57:50am

And about that lawyer writing the tweet thing:

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BigPapa  Dec 3, 2017 • 3:58:04am
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BigPapa  Dec 3, 2017 • 4:02:28am

I’m somewhat surprised Trump’s admission of guilt on Twitter wasn’t more newsworthy or trending. I had to read his tweet a few times to make sure it said what I think it said. Then I had to read the media’s interpretation of comments of ‘WH staffers familiar with the matter’ which was no interpretation at all, just ‘WH Staffers said X’ with no other commentary despite the obvious.

This is not normal. But people are acting like it is.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 3, 2017 • 4:14:55am

re: #157 BigPapa

I’m somewhat surprised Trump’s admission of guilt on Twitter wasn’t more newsworthy or trending. I had to read his tweet a few times to make sure it said what I think it said. Then I had to read the media’s interpretation of comments of ‘WH staffers familiar with the matter’ which was no interpretation at all, just ‘WH Staffers said X’ with no other commentary despite the obvious.

This is not normal. But people are acting like it is.

The emperor’s new clothes phenomenon.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 3, 2017 • 4:22:58am

re: #31 Teukka

Did this Rolling Stone article get posted yet?
Trump’s Hostile Takeover of Party of Reagan

The takeover is far from hostile. The GOP is fully behind their President. There’s nothing he’ll do which would make them impeach him.

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BigPapa  Dec 3, 2017 • 4:24:43am

Trump can keep his story straight and his mouth shut. Good for Mueller. But check this:

Trump alters story on why he fired Flynn

Story was side bar highlighted on main news page. Should be ‘President tweets admission of obstruction on Twitter’ and should be a lead story. In a rational world.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 3, 2017 • 4:38:47am

re: #160 BigPapa

Trump can keep his story straight and his mouth shut. Good for Mueller. But check this:

Trump alters story on why he fired Flynn

Story was side bar highlighted on main news page. Should be ‘President tweets admission of obstruction on Twitter’ and should be a lead story. In a rational world.

I have a shorter headline: Trumps lies yet again

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BigPapa  Dec 3, 2017 • 4:45:16am

My mom said she can’t tell if this is fake news or satire.

RIP Taylor Conway
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teleskiguy  Dec 3, 2017 • 4:45:19am

Fuckface Von Clownstick’s Twitter at present:

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teleskiguy  Dec 3, 2017 • 4:45:51am

re: #163 teleskiguy

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 3, 2017 • 4:46:51am

OK….this thought just crossed my mind. With Trump now denying he asked Comey to stop investigating Flynn, I can’t help but wonder if another indictment is in the pipeline and he’s found about it? Or maybe a big story is about to break or something.

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freetoken  Dec 3, 2017 • 4:51:41am

When a popular young youtuber sort of jumps the shark ….

Extracting urea from my own pee

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teleskiguy  Dec 3, 2017 • 4:53:47am

This is me observing Fuckface Von Clownstick’s Sunday morning tweets:

Giphy

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freetoken  Dec 3, 2017 • 4:56:17am

re: #166 freetoken

“Nice and appetizing pee-foam.”

That has to be usable somehow in regards to Trump.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 3, 2017 • 4:57:22am

re: #157 BigPapa

I’m somewhat surprised Trump’s admission of guilt on Twitter wasn’t more newsworthy or trending. I had to read his tweet a few times to make sure it said what I think it said. Then I had to read the media’s interpretation of comments of ‘WH staffers familiar with the matter’ which was no interpretation at all, just ‘WH Staffers said X’ with no other commentary despite the obvious.

This is not normal. But people are acting like it is.

Because it is new normal. We have turned a corner here and there is no going back.

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BigPapa  Dec 3, 2017 • 5:02:23am

re: #166 freetoken

I bet his kitchen smells wonderful.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 3, 2017 • 5:03:01am

re: #170 BigPapa

I bet his kitchen smells wonderful.

I would not want to get stuck with KP duty

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jeffreyw  Dec 3, 2017 • 5:03:32am

Imgur


Good morning!

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 3, 2017 • 5:04:52am

re: #170 BigPapa

re: #171 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I am not going into that kitchen. No way. ::: puts on gas mask :::

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 3, 2017 • 5:05:31am

re: #172 jeffreyw

That is a beautiful cat.

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BigPapa  Dec 3, 2017 • 5:08:29am

Freetoken pissed on this thread. Bad Freetoken.

(giggles)

We need some yahoo inhaling his farts to save this thread.

(giggles again)

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BigPapa  Dec 3, 2017 • 5:10:55am

My last comment was not a challenge. Do not go on YouTube and search ‘smelling my own farts.’ I said stop it.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 3, 2017 • 5:21:46am

re: #164 teleskiguy

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He’s talking about Jill McCabe who ran for State Senate in my district and whose husband was acting director after he fired Comey. He’s unhinged. He knows Mueller will eventually have him and he’ll very likely be walking away from the presidency in disgrace and may in fact be the first President to go to jail.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 3, 2017 • 5:22:34am

I think eventually one of these days he’ll slip up on Twitter and admit colluding just as he sort of came out and admitted that he obstructed justice.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 3, 2017 • 5:31:52am

I walked away from my laptop for a few minutes. Came back to find Windows had rebooted the computer and I am now in Ubuntu. Whatever.

My Win8.1 has been doing this lately - spontaneously rebooting, sometimes with a BSOD, most times no clues at all as to why. Probably time to back up the whole schmeer in case it decides to crash completely.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 3, 2017 • 5:33:39am

Our Israel vacation is over. We are almost home, we’re in the Toronto airport now, waiting for our flight to Detroit.

Should we ask for asylum in Canada while there is still time?

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Amory Blaine  Dec 3, 2017 • 5:35:36am

Chain yourself to a Tim Hortons!!

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 3, 2017 • 5:35:58am

re: #180 The Vicious Babushka

WB VB. That may be a good idea. I think Mueller is going to get the uncouth one and the rest of his cronies.

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jeffreyw  Dec 3, 2017 • 5:37:37am

re: #174 PhillyPretzel

That is a beautiful cat.

It’s a shelter cat, the pic was taken by Mrs J the last time she went in for a volunteer shift. I don’t have any info on it. Mrs J says it is very affectionate critter.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Dec 3, 2017 • 5:44:40am

re: #180 The Vicious Babushka

Our Israel vacation is over. We are almost home, we’re in the Toronto airport now, waiting for our flight to Detroit.

Should we ask for asylum in Canada while there is still time?

Hope you had a great trip…….please tell the Canadians good thing about us Lizards, we may need some help from them soon

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MsJ  Dec 3, 2017 • 5:47:45am

It’s that time of the month again.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 3, 2017 • 5:49:52am

re: #185 MsJ

It’s that time of the month again.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 3, 2017 • 5:52:32am

Our flight is delayed by an hour and a half (YYZ is fogged in).

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 3, 2017 • 5:53:36am

re: #187 The Vicious Babushka

:(

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fern01  Dec 3, 2017 • 5:54:20am

re: #147 teleskiguy

Uh? Fuckface Von Clownstick just retweeted Chris Christie. A tweet from last Wednesday.

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Christie still wants a job

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HappyWarrior  Dec 3, 2017 • 5:55:11am

re: #189 fern01

Christie still wants a job

I guess Christie figures Jared could be on his way out as he is in NJ and he could weasel his way into a job by sucking up to Trump.

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 3, 2017 • 5:55:16am

re: #189 fern01

The Jersey Whale is always looking for a job.

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dangerman  Dec 3, 2017 • 5:55:22am

re: #43 HappyWarrior

We’re getting old.

ive talked to you about this before. dont even start…… ;-)

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fern01  Dec 3, 2017 • 5:58:12am

re: #191 PhillyPretzel

The Jersey Whale is always looking for a job.

Despite his best efforts he doesn’t seem to have accumulated the $$$millions that other politicians have no trouble doing. He needs a job - or has he implemented governor welfare in NJ?

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dangerman  Dec 3, 2017 • 6:00:47am

re: #59 BeachDem

Great thread. And the comments that sort of say it all

One of their problems is, they can’t distinguish between neutrality and objectivity. Journalists aren’t actually supposed to be neutral. They’re supposed to be objective, and on the side of TRUTH, wherever that originates. It also means you call out falsehoods, as such.

i’d have preferred “lies” to “falsehoods”
otherwise, spot on

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William Lewis  Dec 3, 2017 • 6:04:52am

re: #185 MsJ

It’s that time of the month again.

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 3, 2017 • 6:21:38am

Well the early morning showing of Hamilton’s America is over and now I will head to my collection of videos. Hmm. I think I will watch Victoria.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 3, 2017 • 6:28:25am

re: #196 PhillyPretzel

Well the early morning showing of Hamilton’s America is over and now I will head to my collection of videos. Hmm. I think I will watch Victoria.

I’m watching episode 6 of The Punisher myself.

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 3, 2017 • 6:30:41am

re: #197 wheat-dogg

I have a nice collection of videos courtesy of Amazon. Thank you Charles for making that suggestion a while ago. It has paid off many times over.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 3, 2017 • 6:37:25am

re: #180 The Vicious Babushka

Our Israel vacation is over. We are almost home, we’re in the Toronto airport now, waiting for our flight to Detroit.

Should we ask for asylum in Canada while there is still time?

Canada is a great country so yes!! You can come back when Trump and his thugs are kicked out of office. Mueller is on it.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 3, 2017 • 6:39:23am

re: #180 The Vicious Babushka

Our Israel vacation is over. We are almost home, we’re in the Toronto airport now, waiting for our flight to Detroit.

Should we ask for asylum in Canada while there is still time?

We’re getting to the good part. Orange Foolius is in full meltdown mode and the GOP is still enabling him until he signs that tax bill…

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 3, 2017 • 6:43:45am

re: #200 Joe Bacon 🌹

We’re getting to the good part. Orange Foolius is in full meltdown mode and the GOP is still enabling him until he signs that tax bill…

Heh just imagining Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell acting all like that French police commander in Casablanca the instant Trump gets done signing the tax bill.

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JordanRules  Dec 3, 2017 • 6:45:35am

Hmmm…

Bots out in full force in the comments.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Dec 3, 2017 • 6:54:13am

oops….

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bill d. (b.d.)  Dec 3, 2017 • 6:55:18am

re: #203 bill d. (b.d.)

oops….

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No what? That place is really unsafe as hell now…

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I cannot.  Dec 3, 2017 • 6:55:43am

re: #203 bill d. (b.d.)

Needs more dakka.

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makeitstop  Dec 3, 2017 • 6:56:16am
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PhillyPretzel  Dec 3, 2017 • 6:57:28am

re: #203 bill d. (b.d.)

They made it better than it was expected to be.

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JordanRules  Dec 3, 2017 • 6:58:08am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 3, 2017 • 7:01:17am

re: #208 JordanRules

FFS this is about children’s health care. What a pathetic jerk.

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 3, 2017 • 7:04:18am

re: #209 HappyWarrior

They fear Trump and they are jumping to stay out of the line of his fire.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 3, 2017 • 7:06:50am

re: #210 PhillyPretzel

They fear Trump and they are jumping to stay out of the line of his fire.

No doubt. Hatch is retiring though so it’s not like he should fear much.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 3, 2017 • 7:07:06am

Cowards the whole bloody party.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 3, 2017 • 7:08:03am

re: #201 Dr Lizardo

Heh just imagining Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell acting all like that French police commander in Casablanca the instant Trump gets done signing the tax bill.

They will certainly start polishing their “never trump” creds and quietly forgetting that they supported all his bills, initiatives and nominations…

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JordanRules  Dec 3, 2017 • 7:09:58am

Dumb Seb getting spicy with Tapper.

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dangerman  Dec 3, 2017 • 7:11:47am

re: #213 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They will certainly start polishing their “never trump” creds and quietly forgetting that they supported all his bills, initiatives and nominations…

The internet never forgets

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 3, 2017 • 7:11:55am

re: #214 JordanRules

He is looking for an outlet. He must have something …

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JordanRules  Dec 3, 2017 • 7:13:31am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 3, 2017 • 7:14:42am

re: #215 dangerman

The internet never forgets

but their constituency does, which is one reason they still support the GOP

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makeitstop  Dec 3, 2017 • 7:15:15am
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PhillyPretzel  Dec 3, 2017 • 7:17:21am

re: #219 makeitstop

And any lawyer worth his/her salt would not want to take him on.

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makeitstop  Dec 3, 2017 • 7:17:35am

Oh, man, I hope like hell this is for real.

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JordanRules  Dec 3, 2017 • 7:18:36am

re: #217 JordanRules

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William Lewis  Dec 3, 2017 • 7:19:05am

re: #204 bill d. (b.d.)

No what? That place is really unsafe as hell now…

Hell itself would be safer…

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BigPapa  Dec 3, 2017 • 7:19:55am

re: #205 I cannot.

Needs more dakka.

Sure could you some extra la donka donk

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 3, 2017 • 7:31:01am

re: #204 bill d. (b.d.)

No what? That place is really unsafe as hell now…

Wrecking balls

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HappyWarrior  Dec 3, 2017 • 7:31:08am

re: #222 JordanRules

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The plot as always thickens.

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makeitstop  Dec 3, 2017 • 7:31:31am

I say let him tell it a few more times. Nail it down, once and for all.

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BigPapa  Dec 3, 2017 • 7:32:14am
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bill d. (b.d.)  Dec 3, 2017 • 7:33:54am

re: #227 makeitstop

I say let him tell it a few more times. Nail it down, once and for all.

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Trump is snapping out like a blind dog in a butcher shop.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 3, 2017 • 7:34:40am

re: #206 makeitstop

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He should be. Flynn cooperating with Mueller is going to help him. By the way, the legitimacy of Trump’s entire presidency is in tatters. As dumb as he is, he must know this.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Dec 3, 2017 • 7:35:12am

Never forget that the GOP said Clinton was impeached because of perjury….

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 3, 2017 • 7:37:33am

re: #223 William Lewis

Hell itself would be safer…

Normally, an electrically primed detonation failure is easier to clear than non-electric. Don’t have to wait, unhook the power source, close the circuit, go search for your failure point.
Unfortunately, there was at least a partial detonation. Which should mean it has to be approached as a non-electric firing system failure.

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makeitstop  Dec 3, 2017 • 7:38:18am

re: #229 bill d. (b.d.)

Trump is snapping out like a blind dog in a butcher shop.

As dim as he is, I think even he realizes that he fucked up bad yesterday.

I’d be lying if I said I was not enjoying this.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 3, 2017 • 7:38:21am

re: #230 Patricia Kayden

He should be. Flynn cooperating with Mueller is going to help him. By the way, the legitimacy of Trump’s entire presidency is in tatters. As dumb as he is, he must know this.

I think that’s why he’s freaking out. He spent years questioning Obama’s legitimacy as an American and President and here he may be a creation of the Russians. The sad thing is I think he genuinely thinks the Russians like and respect him whereas it’s obvious that the Russians see him and his inner circle as easily manipulated fools.

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 3, 2017 • 7:39:42am

re: #231 bill d. (b.d.)

And the late US Senator Arlen Spector is a footnote in history by voting “not proven.”

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dangerman  Dec 3, 2017 • 7:43:38am

re: #234 HappyWarrior

I think that’s why he’s freaking out. He spent years questioning Obama’s legitimacy as an American and President and here he may be a creation of the Russians. The sad thing is I think he genuinely thinks the Russians like and respect him whereas it’s obvious that the Russians see him and his inner circle as easily manipulated fools.

Tatters. Plus
For all his pre election bragging and boasting
He’s proven to be comically pathetically bad horrible inept at presidenting

And that calls into question his entire lifetime of self promoted successes

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 3, 2017 • 7:44:28am

CBS just released a poll showing 70+% Alabama Republicans don’t believe Roy Moore molested girls…

No doubt the brainwashing from the Pulpit Pimps using Luntz talking points works yet again…

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makeitstop  Dec 3, 2017 • 7:47:26am

Assange steps to Malcolm Nance. Nance stuffs him like Olaijuwon.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 3, 2017 • 7:48:11am

re: #231 bill d. (b.d.)

Never forget that the GOP said Clinton was impeached because of perjury….

Clinton was impeached because the GOP had a majority. Trump will not be impeached as long as they have a majority

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HappyWarrior  Dec 3, 2017 • 7:50:55am

re: #238 makeitstop

Assange steps to Malcolm Nance. Nance stuffs him like Olaijuwon.

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realtruenews.com. LOL.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 3, 2017 • 7:52:00am

re: #236 dangerman

Tatters. Plus
For all his pre election bragging and boasting
He’s proven to be comically pathetically bad horrible inept at presidenting

And that calls into question his entire lifetime of self promoted successes

Yep- “I know more than the generals do.” He’s proven what we all knew about him and that he’s an ignorant schmuck.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 3, 2017 • 7:54:22am

LOLOLOLOLOLOL…he is such a moron.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 3, 2017 • 7:55:30am

re: #242 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLOLOLOLOLOL…he is such a moron.

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Coming from the guy who said we had unemployment numbers worse than the Great Depression. He really wants to make the Ross story the worst journalistic fail ever when his own friends on FNC repeatedly and deliberately lie for him.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 3, 2017 • 7:55:52am

Breakdown of the CBS poll I posted above:

cbsnews.com

A new CBS News poll finds 71 percent of Alabama Republicans say the allegations against Roy Moore are false, and those who believe this also overwhelmingly believe Democrats and the media are behind those allegations.

The poll found 92 percent of Republicans who don’t believe the allegations against Moore say the Democrats are behind the charges, and 88 percent say newspapers and the media are behind them.

This is the end result of 40 years of KKKristian SKKKooling in ol Alabamy…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 3, 2017 • 7:57:03am

re: #242 Backwoods_Sleuth

People who lost money when the Stock Market went down 350 points based on the False and Dishonest reporting of Brian Ross of @ABC News (he has been suspended), should consider hiring a lawyer and suing ABC for the damages this bad reporting has caused - many millions of dollars!

of course he understands how the stock market works, but he is not about to pass up a dig at the unflattering press

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 3, 2017 • 7:58:22am

Friend from France e-mails me asking when the coup will happen…My answer—not gonna happen but the country is heading for implosion and collapse…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 3, 2017 • 7:59:46am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:00:03am

re: #244 Joe Bacon 🌹

Breakdown of the CBS poll I posted above:

cbsnews.com

A new CBS News poll finds 71 percent of Alabama Republicans say the allegations against Roy Moore are false, and those who believe this also overwhelmingly believe Democrats and the media are behind those allegations.

The poll found 92 percent of Republicans who don’t believe the allegations against Moore say the Democrats are behind the charges, and 88 percent say newspapers and the media are behind them.

This is the end result of 40 years of KKKristian SKKKooling in ol Alabamy…

If we don’t win this one, I’m going to honestly wonder if there’s anything that cancause us to win statewide elections in bright red states.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:00:28am

re: #247 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:00:51am
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A Mom Anon  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:01:51am

re: #242 Backwoods_Sleuth

What about all the people who lost damn near or pretty much everything in the last financial crash? Can we sue someone? How about the hedge fund assholes or the fucking banks? How about the bought and paid for rich fucks in Congress who passed laws letting this shit happen? Can I sue those guys?

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dangerman  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:01:53am

re: #239 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Clinton was impeached because the GOP had a majority. Trump will not be impeached as long as they have a majority

maybe
they are normalizing child molesting and pu**y grabbing

it maybe harder when there’s a publicly released obvious slam dunk case made for multiple accounts of obstruction, election fraud, conspiracy (or whatever word you want) with foreign powers……

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:02:17am

re: #248 HappyWarrior

If we don’t win this one, I’m going to honestly wonder if there’s anything that cancause us to win statewide elections in bright red states.

I expect the GOP will win, and it will convince them that they can get away with rape and/or murder. and the might just be right

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HappyWarrior  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:04:24am

re: #253 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I expect the GOP will win, and it will convince them that they can get away with rape and/or murder. and the might just be right

I’m not as cynical as you are after this fall. I think Moore just may lose this.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:04:49am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:05:28am

re: #250 Backwoods_Sleuth

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You know what’s frustrating is lost in the fact that Moore is a creepy bastard shouldn’t be anywhere near office is that Jones is the kind of guy who should be in office. He is the best personification of the word “public servant.”

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HappyWarrior  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:06:22am

re: #255 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Never have I seen who enjoys being pandered to as much as Franklin Graham. Really Frankie, ask Donald about the Bible, ask him what he really knows. He doesn’t know shit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:07:48am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:09:37am

re: #258 Backwoods_Sleuth

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businessinsider.com
He’s “only” 14 grand off.

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ObserverArt  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:09:50am

Oh God…I just got a chance to turn on Chuck Todd hoping there is some good stuff…and I see him with Lewandowski and David Bosse with a book basically asking to “Let Trump be Trump.”

Why does anyone take anything Lewandowski says seriously? He is a known liar. And his book will be full of lies.

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makeitstop  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:10:11am

re: #258 Backwoods_Sleuth

68% of the tax cuts in this bill go to individuals such that a family of 4… making a median income of $73,000 is going to get a 60% tax cut.

Jesus. That dude should be prosecuted under the Geneva Conventions for torturing numbers like that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:12:01am
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A Mom Anon  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:13:47am

re: #258 Backwoods_Sleuth
Not in GA it’s not. And he knows it and he’s lying. And he knows that too. Oh I will be calling his offices AGAIN about this one. What a smug asshole.

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:13:53am

re: #247 Backwoods_Sleuth

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makeitstop  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:14:24am

Damn, Jared. Just change your middle name to ‘Failed to Disclose,’ already.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:14:28am

re: #260 ObserverArt

Oh God…I just got a chance to turn on Chuck Todd hoping there is some good stuff…and I see him with Lewandowski and David Bosse with a book basically asking to “Let Trump be Trump.”

Why does anyone take anything Lewandowski says seriously? He is a known liar. And his book will be full of lies.

Did Chuck U flaunt the brown lipstick on his face?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:15:37am
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Targetpractice  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:16:46am

re: #265 makeitstop

Damn, Jared. Just change your middle name to ‘Failed to Disclose,’ already.

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Flip the script and this was Marc Mezvinsky who was committing lie of omission after lie of omission, and the GOP would be demanding his head on a platter. Along with Chelsea’s for being an accomplice. And Hillary’s for knowingly letting him get away with it all.

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plansbandc  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:18:03am

re: #65 jaunte

Yeah, you might. But he never will.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:18:06am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:18:08am

re: #265 makeitstop

Damn, Jared. Just change your middle name to ‘Failed to Disclose,’ already.

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Jared will be sharing a cell sometime eventually. He’s crooked as hell.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:19:41am

only the best lawyers…

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makeitstop  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:19:53am

re: #271 HappyWarrior

Jared will be sharing a cell sometime eventually. He’s crooked as hell.

That’s probably why Fatass let him marry his daughter. He could uphold those Trump Family Values.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:20:04am

On a neat note, I found some more info about my great uncle the RCC priest yesterday. According to my Aunt, he was pretty liberal minded and even gave his blessing to my great grandmother to attend a marriage in an Episcopal Church. I mean that’s no big deal to us now obviously but this was pre Vatican II. Had a feeling Uncle Bill was a pretty liberal minded and tolerant guy given his parish was predominately African-American.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:21:22am

re: #273 makeitstop

That’s probably why Fatass let him marry his daughter. He could uphold those Trump Family Values.

I really hope Ivanka goes down eventually too. I can’t stand how fake she is. She may be in some ways the Trump I loathe most becaues she tries to present herself as someone who cares but she’s just as greedy and criminal as the rest. The only Trump I have a modicum of respect for is Barron. (Learning Slovene as a kid is pretty cool).

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:21:55am

re: #267 Backwoods_Sleuth

Rather selective enforcement no?

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Targetpractice  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:23:15am

re: #275 HappyWarrior

I really hope Ivanka goes down eventually too. I can’t stand how fake she is. She may be in some ways the Trump I loathe most becaues she tries to present herself as someone who cares but she’s just as greedy and criminal as the rest. The only Trump I have a modicum of respect for is Barron. (Learning Slovene as a kid is pretty cool).

I like Tiffany Trump, but that’s largely because A) she’s been kept away from Ivana’s brood and B) she’s practically invisible to Daddy. She seems to be the least Trump-like Trump I’ve seen so far.

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ObserverArt  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:23:18am

re: #266 Joe Bacon 🌹

Did Chuck U flaunt the brown lipstick on his face?

You know, I have it on and didn’t even listen. I can’t take Lewandowski. I see him as a block-headed yes man goon that spouts nothing but deflection and lies.

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JordanRules  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:23:37am

re: #272 Backwoods_Sleuth

You just know these fuckers are going to keep bungling all the cover-ups for the cover-up.

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makeitstop  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:24:20am

re: #272 Backwoods_Sleuth

only the best lawyers…

Like someone said last night - these guys are used to crushing nobody contractors when Trump wants to get out of paying a bill, and they think they can take on 20 attorneys who have put mob families in prison.

They’ll be roadkill when they actually have to face off with Mueller and his team. They just don’t know it yet.

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Targetpractice  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:24:58am

re: #276 Unshaken Defiance

Rather selective enforcement no?

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On that subject, I’d like Huck to explain how an “illegal” convicted of multiple felonies managed to get ahold of a high-priced firearm if (as they insist) he went to that pier armed with the intent of shooting a white girl.

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:25:15am

Wonder how much money the NRA gets from Russia?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:25:57am
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JordanRules  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:26:55am
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makeitstop  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:27:01am

re: #275 HappyWarrior

I really hope Ivanka goes down eventually too. I can’t stand how fake she is. She may be in some ways the Trump I loathe most becaues she tries to present herself as someone who cares but she’s just as greedy and criminal as the rest. The only Trump I have a modicum of respect for is Barron. (Learning Slovene as a kid is pretty cool).

It’s worth remembering that she and Junior narrowly avoided being indicted for fraud.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:27:12am

re: #277 Targetpractice

I like Tiffany Trump, but that’s largely because A) she’s been kept away from Ivana’s brood and B) she’s practically invisible to Daddy. She seems to be the least Trump-like Trump I’ve seen so far.

Yeah I don’t mind Tiffany really either. In fact, I feel quite bad for her. I’m pro-choice as the next liberal but it was really messed up that her dad said he wanted to abort her. Yet another reason why Graham and the RR assholes that fawn over Trump suck.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:29:59am

re: #276 Unshaken Defiance

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HappyWarrior  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:31:20am

re: #285 makeitstop

It’s worth remembering that she and Junior narrowly avoided being indicted for fraud.

That’s right.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:32:50am

re: #287 Joe Bacon 🌹

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Also no word about Brisenia Flores and her father who were murdered by anti-immigrant vilgantes. Kate’s case is tragic but it was NOT murder and had nothing to do with the guy being an illegal immigrant. Tehy really want to turn this family’s tragedy into an excuse to commit violence against illegal immigrants.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:32:58am
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Eventual Carrion  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:33:05am

re: #252 dangerman

maybe
they are normalizing child molesting and pu**y grabbing

it maybe harder when there’s a publicly released obvious slam dunk case made for multiple accounts of obstruction, election fraud, conspiracy (or whatever word you want) with foreign powers……

Conspiracy is the correct charge word.

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ObserverArt  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:34:15am

I didn’t get a chance to follow much around here yesterday.

Was there discussion of the ABC News article about Trump asking Flynn to contact the Russians being wrong initially and causing ABC to suspend the reporter?

If so, what was the general take on it all? Anyone have the Cliff Notes?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:38:04am

just when you thought it was safe to go into the water…

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makeitstop  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:40:18am

re: #291 Eventual Carrion

Conspiracy is the correct charge word.

Yep.

I watched an ‘Independent’ waltz through a thread on Facebook repeating over and over that there was ‘zero evidence of collusion’ with Russia. Repeating it like a mantra.

‘Collusion’ is a semantic smokescreen that they’re all hiding behind, and I pointed that out - along with reminding everyone that Manafort and Gates were charged with conspiracy and Flynn was charged with making false statements.

The ‘Independent’ has since bailed from the thread.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:45:11am

re: #294 makeitstop

Yep.

I watched an ‘Independent’ waltz through a thread on Facebook repeating over and over that there was ‘zero evidence of collusion’ with Russia. Repeating it like a mantra.

‘Collusion’ is a semantic smokescreen that they’re all hiding behind, and I pointed that out - along with reminding everyone that Manafort and Gates were charged with conspiracy and Flynn was charged with making false statements.

The ‘Independent’ has since bailed from the thread.

I get really annoyed with my right wing friend who claims to dislike Trump but yet happily repeats talking points that Trump very much is in agree with. I think he’s from the Ben Shapiro of denying Trump is a conservative and Republican and then using his bullshit to attack liberals.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:47:53am

re: #161 wheat-dogg

I have a shorter headline: Trumps lies yet again

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Ace Rothstein  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:50:14am

re: #231 bill d. (b.d.)

Never forget that the GOP said Clinton was impeached because of perjury….

And obstruction.

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Skip Intro  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:53:07am

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dangerman  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:57:43am

re: #272 Backwoods_Sleuth

only the best lawyers…

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… wouldnt a smart lawyer say nothing publicly?

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Targetpractice  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:57:51am

Just realized that Trump has set a new record for a modern presidency. He’s managed to get 2 guilty pleas from his White House in a faster time than any president in ages. And he’s got more guilty pleas from his White House in 10 months than Obama managed in 8 years.

Take a bow, you bloated, egotistical fuck.

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:58:42am

@POTUS is retweeting Dotard’s rage tweets

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dangerman  Dec 3, 2017 • 9:03:16am

from politicalwire.com
(from wsj which i dont subscribe to)

“The president on occasion has called White House aides to the private residence in the evening, where he makes assignments and asks them not tell Mr. Kelly about the plans, according to several people familiar with the matter. At least once, aides have declined to carry out the requested task so as not to run afoul of Mr. Kelly, one of these people said.”

read the bolding, which is mine and see if you can avoid thinking “don’t tell mom…”

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JordanRules  Dec 3, 2017 • 9:05:08am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 3, 2017 • 9:06:08am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 3, 2017 • 9:07:09am
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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 3, 2017 • 9:10:51am

re: #244 Joe Bacon 🌹

Breakdown of the CBS poll I posted above:

cbsnews.com

A new CBS News poll finds 71 percent of Alabama Republicans say the allegations against Roy Moore are false, and those who believe this also overwhelmingly believe Democrats and the media are behind those allegations.

The poll found 92 percent of Republicans who don’t believe the allegations against Moore say the Democrats are behind the charges, and 88 percent say newspapers and the media are behind them.

This is the end result of 40 years of KKKristian SKKKooling in ol Alabamy…

This just reflects the fact that the deep South has never been deprogrammed from the views they have held since prior to the Civil War. It’s not as though Alabama has ever been a liberal stronghold with thoughtful voters. The non-racist non-Bible thumper voters have always been a small minority in the state; it’s not just 40 years, it’s been true since the inception of our Republic.

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Targetpractice  Dec 3, 2017 • 9:11:10am

re: #305 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The bill being available for viewing on the internet for a week, during which time every news organization across the country deciphered it so that nobody went into the vote ignorant of what was at stake.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 3, 2017 • 9:11:48am
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lawhawk  Dec 3, 2017 • 9:11:51am

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area.

Trump’s been up early with the tweets about the FBI, Comey, and trying to walk back the tweet yesterday implicating Trump in obstruction of justice and firing Comey because the FBI was investigating Flynn.

Trump’s lawyers are either monumentally awful (a real possibility) or Trump’s lying once again (again, a real possibility). There was a reason Trump’s business lawyers had a 2 man rule for interviewing him: all Trump does is lie about his actions and recollections.

Trump lies. It’s all he does when he’s not bullying, bloviating, and projecting.

It’s also leading his administration into still more criminality - because lying about how and why Comey was fired is central to ongoing investigations into Trump obstructing justice.

One thing to further consider is that Flynn’s guilty plea deal with Mueller is just a fraction of the charges he should have been indicted over. You don’t cut a deal like that unless there’s a lot more that Flynn will be giving - and I don’t think getting Kushner or Junior is sufficient for that purpose.

You don’t cut a deal and are expected to drop details about your underlings or associates - you turn on your superiors. That puts Trump directly in the spotlight.

Even if Trump or his lawyers don’t fully appreciate the situation, at some point the GOP has to realize that this investigation is serious and racking up names and numbers.

It’s unprecedented to already have 2 indictments and 2 guilty pleas involving campaign/transition/administration officials within first year of a presidential administration, and the names are only getting bigger from here.

That’s why Trump and GOP are hoping to deflect attention from the investigation with anything - and I mean anything - that could distract people. The GOP Tax Scam is a good example - the GOP is hoping people focusing on the scandal to push an awful tax bill, while the tax bill is also deflecting attention from the awful Trump admin and its policies.

We’re already seeing Trump’s popularity skirting with historic lows in his first term, and it’s not going to get any better.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 3, 2017 • 9:12:34am

re: #305 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Walsh is a fucking moron. If I were kids, I’d be bugging him on Twitter all the time when he acts like a shallow asshole liek this.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 3, 2017 • 9:13:53am

re: #252 dangerman

maybe
they are normalizing child molesting and pu**y grabbing

it maybe harder when there’s a publicly release obvious slam dunk case made for multiple accounts of obstruction, election fraud, conspiracy (or whatever word you want) with foreign powers……

there are already obvious violations of conflict of interest and emoluments clause but nobody is acting on them. as as we have seen, nothing can be slam-dunk obvious enough to get them to act otherwise

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 3, 2017 • 9:14:24am

re: #254 HappyWarrior

I’m not as cynical as you are after this fall. I think Moore just may lose this.

it’s bad enough that he still has a chance at all

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Skip Intro  Dec 3, 2017 • 9:14:35am

From the “Two Good Guys With a Gun” file.

A security guard is shot by a security guard, police say

One security guard shot another security guard after a dispute in Hollywood, according to early reports on Sunday.

The shooting happened around 6 a.m. Sunday. The victim was found outside the Hollywood Water Treatment Plant at 3441 Hollywood Blvd. Police said the shooting occurred after an argument between the two men, who were both employed by a private company and not the city.

sanluisobispo.com

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 3, 2017 • 9:15:35am

re: #306 Hecuba’s daughter

This just reflects the fact that the deep South has never been deprogrammed from the views they have held since prior to the Civil War. It’s not as though Alabama has ever been a liberal stronghold with thoughtful voters. The non-racist non-Bible thumper voters have always been a small minority in the state; it’s not just 40 years, it’s been true since the inception of our Republic.

When Moore is elected watch how Fisher, Capito, Murkowski and especially Collins welcome him into the Senate and fully embrace him!

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HappyWarrior  Dec 3, 2017 • 9:16:25am

re: #312 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

it’s bad enough that he still has a chance at all

No shit.

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Targetpractice  Dec 3, 2017 • 9:18:18am

re: #309 lawhawk

I’d say it’s plausible that Flynn did turn on Kushner and Uday, as well as others in the Don’s inner circle. Mueller would probably accept incriminating evidence on multiple suspects in lieu of such on Donny alone. Why? Because it gives him more people to squeeze and betters his case by getting more people willing to squeal for a deal.

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makeitstop  Dec 3, 2017 • 9:20:35am

re: #316 Targetpractice

I’d say it’s plausible that Flynn did turn on Kushner and Uday, as well as others in the Don’s inner circle. Mueller would probably accept incriminating evidence on multiple suspects in lieu of such on Donny alone. Why? Because it gives him more people to squeeze and betters his case by getting more people willing to squeal for a deal.

Where’d Priebus run off to? Dude’s been pretty much invisible for a while now.

Makes me half-wonder if he was smart enough to make himself a deal…

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Targetpractice  Dec 3, 2017 • 9:22:44am

re: #317 makeitstop

Where’d Priebus run off to? Dude’s been pretty much invisible for a while now.

Makes me half-wonder if he was smart enough to make himself a deal…

I noted yesterday that it seems like the only guy who’s “clean” is Rinsed and I suspect that’s because he was never really read into the whole scheme. That the Trumps didn’t trust the GOP leadership and so kept him at arm’s length.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 3, 2017 • 9:23:07am

re: #317 makeitstop

Where’d Priebus run off to? Dude’s been pretty much invisible for a while now.

Makes me half-wonder if he was smart enough to make himself a deal…

That’s true. We haven’t heard much from him at all since he got replaced by Kelly.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 3, 2017 • 9:23:09am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 3, 2017 • 9:23:29am

re: #318 Targetpractice

I noted yesterday that it seems like the only guy who’s “clean” is Rinsed and I suspect that’s because he was never really read into the whole scheme. That the Trumps didn’t trust the GOP leadership and so kept him at arm’s length.

or he had enough sense to keep himself out of anything that might later tar him

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Targetpractice  Dec 3, 2017 • 9:26:03am

re: #321 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

or he had enough sense to keep himself out of anything that might later tar him

Plausible. Either way, the fact that he’s disappeared off the radar since being fired would indicate that he’s probably not going to be much help to Mueller aside from (perhaps) providing testimony to support the testimony of those who have flipped.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 3, 2017 • 9:26:42am

re: #320 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I’m sure the FBI love their commander in chief trashing them to attack Comey who many of them greatly liked. This fucking asshole really needs to go.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 3, 2017 • 9:27:39am
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Targetpractice  Dec 3, 2017 • 9:28:32am

re: #320 Backwoods_Sleuth

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A classic authoritarian tactic: When the investigators are closing in on you, attack the investigators in the hopes of discrediting their investigation and its results.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 3, 2017 • 9:28:58am

re: #324 Backwoods_Sleuth

Doug joins the city of Selma for their annual Christmas parade to continue his message of bringing people together

alt-right media title: Doug Jones enrolling more convicted felons to vote in upcoming election

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meteor  Dec 3, 2017 • 9:31:35am

Huzzah! This morning, I managed to open the thumb drive and find the original version of the script. All 484 pages of it. It’s for a TV series, that’s why it’s so long. Anyhoo, I’m relieved.

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makeitstop  Dec 3, 2017 • 9:34:00am

re: #318 Targetpractice

I noted yesterday that it seems like the only guy who’s “clean” is Rinsed and I suspect that’s because he was never really read into the whole scheme. That the Trumps didn’t trust the GOP leadership and so kept him at arm’s length.

But Team Treason was so blatant with what they were doing, there was probably still a lot that was perfectly visible even at arm’s length.

The Trump family have always believed they were above the law. Their behavior in the immediate aftermath of the election showed that - they were repeatedly violating the Emoluments Clause in plain sight. If that’s what we saw, what did someone on the inside - even someone who probably wasn’t fully trusted - get to see?

And remember how Flynn went pretty much silent for a while, too. Might not be anything there, but then again there might.

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 3, 2017 • 9:40:25am

It seems strange to say this 70 years after Jackie Robinson, but today Geno Smith will be the first African American QB to start for the NY Giants

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 3, 2017 • 9:42:47am
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dangerman  Dec 3, 2017 • 9:43:35am

re: #327 meteor

Huzzah! This morning, I managed to open the thumb drive and find the original version of the script. All 484 pages of it. It’s for a TV series, that’s why it’s so long. Anyhoo, I’m relieved.

tech sux
all tech
it will lie, cheat, steal, dissemble and eff you up at every turn
i am not a luddite
use it as necessary
protect yourself with the metaphorical belt, suspenders and a healthy roll of duct tape
never let your guard down
never ever trust tech

h/t to the internets who allowed me to post th

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Targetpractice  Dec 3, 2017 • 9:44:37am

re: #330 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I can see why Donny welcomed him into the family, he’s the same delusions of grandeur that his father-in-law suffers from.

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 3, 2017 • 9:45:42am

re: #332 Targetpractice

They want to keep it in the family. /half

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meteor  Dec 3, 2017 • 9:46:33am

re: #331 dangerman

Thx hug

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scottslemmons  Dec 3, 2017 • 9:47:20am

re: #318 Targetpractice

I noted yesterday that it seems like the only guy who’s “clean” is Rinsed and I suspect that’s because he was never really read into the whole scheme. That the Trumps didn’t trust the GOP leadership and so kept him at arm’s length.

Priebus was on the transition team. He knows everything that went on. He participated fully in everything that went on. He may be smart enough to be keeping quiet now or even to have made a deal with Mueller, but he was never clean.

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 3, 2017 • 9:48:11am

re: #335 scottslemmons

You are correct he probably made a deal.

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dangerman  Dec 3, 2017 • 9:48:12am

re: #334 meteor

Thx hug

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Targetpractice  Dec 3, 2017 • 9:49:07am

re: #335 scottslemmons

Priebus was on the transition team. He knows everything that went on. He participated fully in everything that went on. He may be smart enough to be keeping quiet now or even to have made a deal with Mueller, but he was never clean.

I suspect he’s made a deal, but the question is what exactly could Mueller charge him with? Was he the third Trumper stupid enough to try to lie to the FBI?

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 3, 2017 • 9:51:00am

re: #338 Targetpractice

Times, places and dates are also very important.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Dec 3, 2017 • 9:53:36am

re: #22 Joe Bacon 🌹

That brings back memories of KROQ in the early 80s. Still remember the first song I ever heard on it when I moved to Los Angeles—Romeo Void’s Never Say Never and it was uncensored. Now I had NEVER heard anything like KROQ back in Pittsburgh.

Oh, my bible thumping aunt threw a fit when she heard me listening to KROQ. She made me watch Trinity Broadcasting’s “expose” of backward masking where they alleged that playing songs like Stairway To Heaven backward you heard “My Sweet Satan”. Her minister really got into that backward masking shtick. In one sermon he went as far as to play the Mister Ed theme backward and he insisted that we heard “Satan Is Served By This Song”. Frankly I thought he was full of CENSORED…

KROQ! I listened to that in the early 1980s when I moved to L.A., too! I just got a new car that has Sirius and I’ve been listening to all that stuff with Richard Blade and Swedish Eagle. Used to go down to an import record store to get music that you couldn’t get anywhere else. Fun time!

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Dec 3, 2017 • 9:58:48am

re: #320 Backwoods_Sleuth

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retired cynic  Dec 3, 2017 • 10:00:20am

Someone sent me this, and I swear it must be a photoshop, but I don’t see it.

Family Portrait?
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ObserverArt  Dec 3, 2017 • 10:01:03am

re: #327 meteor

Huzzah! This morning, I managed to open the thumb drive and find the original version of the script. All 484 pages of it. It’s for a TV series, that’s why it’s so long. Anyhoo, I’m relieved.

Yay!

One quick question for you. Do you always make sure to “ask” the computer to allow you to remove the thumb drive by using the “safely remove hardware” function?

I have found it seems to keep the thumb drive operating better. If you just unplug and plug in the thumb drive without doing it, the thumb drive can become unreadable or act like it is which I had had happen and it was just like what happened to you.

And a recommendation. If your files are critical, back them up on a DVD drive that has been formatted to use like USB Drive in addition to the thumb drive. You can write and overwrite the file even if you are using up the DVD as you do it. It is a cheap way to have additional backup. When you can no longer write to the DVD, start a new one.

I am paranoid about data especially with my finished graphic arts files.

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retired cynic  Dec 3, 2017 • 10:01:21am

re: #342 retired cynic

Shades of 13 dwarves, a wizard and a hobbit, up a fir tree.

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ObserverArt  Dec 3, 2017 • 10:02:47am

re: #329 Big Beautiful Door

It seems strange to say this 70 years after Jackie Robinson, but today Geno Smith will be the first African American QB to start for the NY Giants

Wow. I am a sports buff, but I hadn’t realized that bit of history.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Dec 3, 2017 • 10:02:51am

re: #343 ObserverArt

Also put a copy on Google Drive or Dropbox in case your home is robbed or burns down.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Dec 3, 2017 • 10:06:14am
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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Dec 3, 2017 • 10:06:16am

re: #327 meteor

Only one backup?

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HappyWarrior  Dec 3, 2017 • 10:07:31am

re: #329 Big Beautiful Door

It seems strange to say this 70 years after Jackie Robinson, but today Geno Smith will be the first African American QB to start for the NY Giants

Had no idea about that. The Steelers had Joe Gilliam competing with Bradshaw as early as the 70’s. But Jefferson Street Joe struggled with drugs. It’s a shame. He had talent.

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dangerman  Dec 3, 2017 • 10:08:26am

re: #343 ObserverArt

re: #346 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Another almost foolproof system is pen and paper. ;-)

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makeitstop  Dec 3, 2017 • 10:11:05am

re: #338 Targetpractice

I suspect he’s made a deal, but the question is what exactly could Mueller charge him with? Was he the third Trumper stupid enough to try to lie to the FBI?

As you mentioned earlier, he could just be a corroborating witness.

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scottslemmons  Dec 3, 2017 • 10:14:24am

re: #350 dangerman

Another almost foolproof system is pen and paper. ;-)

Stone lasts longer…

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Skip Intro  Dec 3, 2017 • 10:17:06am

Russian sites call HIV a myth, Western conspiracy—an epidemic is now exploding

As rate of new cases decline worldwide, Russia saw 149% jump in the past decade.

Welcome to the world of “family values” medicine.

arstechnica.com

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mmmirele  Dec 3, 2017 • 10:17:23am

re: #289 HappyWarrior

Also no word about Brisenia Flores and her father who were murdered by anti-immigrant vilgantes. Kate’s case is tragic but it was NOT murder and had nothing to do with the guy being an illegal immigrant. Tehy really want to turn this family’s tragedy into an excuse to commit violence against illegal immigrants.

We have another case in Arizona that my congresscritter Andy Biggs has taken up, the murder of Grant Ronnebeck, who was killed by an illegal immigrant with a record. Grant’s father showed up in the Facebook comments on Yet Another Biggs post about the alleged travesty of justice that was the Steinle trial. I wasn’t having any of it. I keep waiting for Biggs to block me from his Facebook, but I think he knows if he does that, his people will get afternoon pickets every day at their office on the other side of Mesa. Here’s my two responses to Steve Ronnebeck:

No, I’m sorry, what Andy Biggs is suggesting is wrong. I’m sorry for you and your family, but when an elected official, one who has graduated from law school, tries to undermine the rule of law and the jury system with his remarks, I have NO respect whatsoever. There are too many people on this topic who would string up the defendant in a lynching, rather than let the case take its course. Again, I am very sorry for your loss, but your loss does not mean we should just shred up the Constitution and associated rights.

I realize some people are going to think it’s completely awful that I’m commenting negatively on the comment of a grieving father. However, Steve Ronnebeck’s terrible loss does not mean I am going to give him a pass when he starts questioning our system of law. What do you want done differently, Mr. Ronnebeck? Do you just want our system of law to mean nothing because you want vengeance?

I feel terrible for Steve Ronnebeck, but vengeance isn’t going to bring back his son.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 3, 2017 • 10:18:04am
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cat-tikvah  Dec 3, 2017 • 10:19:08am

re: #289 HappyWarrior

My repulsive Republican senator (spineless except for tax cuts Toomey) ran on attacking sanctuary cities and continues to do so.

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Romantic Heretic  Dec 3, 2017 • 10:21:33am

re: #256 HappyWarrior

You know what’s frustrating is lost in the fact that Moore is a creepy bastard shouldn’t be anywhere near office is that Jones is the kind of guy who should be in office. He is the best personification of the word “public servant.”

It’s that word, “Public”. To many Americans it means “Godless Communism! Killitkillitkillitkillit!

It’s why I call them barbarians.

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Targetpractice  Dec 3, 2017 • 10:25:38am

re: #355 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“No crisis” until the Freedom Caucus declares that they won’t agree to a CR without budget cuts.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Dec 3, 2017 • 10:26:03am

re: #353 Skip Intro

Russian sites call HIV a myth, Western conspiracy—an epidemic is now exploding

Welcome to the world of “family values” medicine.

arstechnica.com

Sooner or later, anti-science quacks and woo profiteers are going to cause a public health disaster of monumental dimensions. Hucksters who survive need to be held to account, I mean put on trial for their lives before a special tribunal. I understand the free speech and other implications but nobody should get away with causing millions of needless deaths, and that is a real possibility.

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MsJ  Dec 3, 2017 • 10:26:10am

re: #195 William Lewis

My pleasure. Enjoy!

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Skip Intro  Dec 3, 2017 • 10:29:00am

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Dec 3, 2017 • 10:29:27am

re: #293 Backwoods_Sleuth

I love bats! Grew up with them.

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ObserverArt  Dec 3, 2017 • 10:36:56am

re: #361 Skip Intro

[Embedded content]

That is a great illustration.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 3, 2017 • 10:37:38am

re: #362 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

I love bats! Grew up with them.

I still live with them.
They are in my attic, my barn, the shop, and every other outbuilding here on the farm.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 3, 2017 • 10:39:11am

re: #364 Backwoods_Sleuth

I still live with them.
They are in my attic, my barn, the shop, and every other outbuilding here on the farm.

we have a whole colony of them in the belfry of a neighboring village, they swarm out at night and circle around street lights and any sort of lamp post

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 3, 2017 • 10:43:15am

re: #365 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

we have a whole colony of them in the belfry of a neighboring village, they swarm out at night and circle around street lights and any sort of lamp post

one of our favorite pastimes is to sit outside at dusk/twilight watching them fly out for the night (oftentimes using Flight of the Valkyries as the musical accompaniment).

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 3, 2017 • 10:45:44am

This could be interesting

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bratwurst  Dec 3, 2017 • 10:45:53am

Stop investigating someone I love and start investigating someone I despise, dammit!!11!!

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makeitstop  Dec 3, 2017 • 10:46:51am

re: #366 Backwoods_Sleuth

one of our favorite pastimes is to sit outside at dusk/twilight watching them fly out for the night (oftentimes using Flight of the Valkyries as the musical accompaniment).

We have a couple here that we often watch flying around in the evenings in the Summer. I have no idea where the hell they go in Winter, though. I’m bat-ignorant. :)

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Skip Intro  Dec 3, 2017 • 10:47:45am

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Dec 3, 2017 • 10:48:08am

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 3, 2017 • 10:48:42am
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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Dec 3, 2017 • 10:49:14am

re: #362 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

I love bats! Grew up with them.

I like bats. They’re like coyotes, real survivors.

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makeitstop  Dec 3, 2017 • 10:52:39am
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BigPapa  Dec 3, 2017 • 10:53:44am

Cool memory of Sydney: all the bats in the Botanical Gardens. They were big.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 3, 2017 • 10:55:20am

re: #374 makeitstop

Yeah but no collusion because Trump would never lie.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 3, 2017 • 10:56:08am

re: #368 bratwurst

Stop investigating someone I love and start investigating someone I despise, dammit!!11!!

Did they ever think the FBI agent may be anti Trump because Trump trashed his former boss and agency as a whole?

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Targetpractice  Dec 3, 2017 • 10:56:47am

re: #368 bratwurst

Stop investigating someone I love and start investigating someone I despise, dammit!!11!!

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I knew as soon as I saw that story that the wingnuts would try to blow it up into “proof” that Mueller’s investigation was biased.

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scottslemmons  Dec 3, 2017 • 10:57:40am

re: #368 bratwurst

Stop investigating someone I love and start investigating someone I despise, dammit!!11!!

[Embedded content]

If anything comes out of the Mueller investigation, I really hope it pulls in some of these long-time ratfuck organizations like Judicial Watch.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 3, 2017 • 11:01:59am

re: #378 Targetpractice

I knew as soon as I saw that story that the wingnuts would try to blow it up into “proof” that Mueller’s investigation was biased.

Meanwhile they have no one problem at all using people with a big grudge to push the Anti Clinton propaganda bs.

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JordanRules  Dec 3, 2017 • 11:02:02am

re: #374 makeitstop

Mercy!
The benefit of doubt was strained a while ago, but these days it’s some other type of ignorance or complicity to grant it in non-legal contexts. There’s just too much there. And many in the media are still playing that game.

There’s so much there, I’m reminded daily about something damning that we learned months ago.

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makeitstop  Dec 3, 2017 • 11:02:59am

re: #378 Targetpractice

I knew as soon as I saw that story that the wingnuts would try to blow it up into “proof” that Mueller’s investigation was biased.

FBI response:

L7 - Fuel My Fire

I’ve got word of thanks
That I’d like to say
For the way that I feel
The way that I feel today
Got stacks, got stacks
Stacks of chips on my shoulder
In everything I do
Cos I made, I made
I made the mistake
The mistake of trusting you

Yeah, people like you just fuel my fire
Yeah, people like you just do
You liar
You liar
You liaaaaar
You liaaaaar

Yeah, my layers are thick
And I’ve got bad attitude
Yeah that knife in my back
Has fingerprints that belong to you
Got a grudge, got a grudge
Got a grudge that I’m holding
For as long as I like
Cos you lied, you lied
You lied to my face
And that’s something that I can’t forgive

Yeah, people like you just fuel my fire
People like you just burn
You liar
You liar
You liaaaaar
You liaaaaar

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HappyWarrior  Dec 3, 2017 • 11:05:12am

Trumpers think his actions have no impact on what those investigating him and his people think. But meanwhile it was just fine to use a rape victim of a guy HRC reluctantly represented at the debates to claim she didn’t care about women.

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BigPapa  Dec 3, 2017 • 11:05:37am

Oh yeah? Well, what about Chappaquiddick?
BY ART BUCHWALD
Republished courtesy of the estate of Art Buchwald
DECEMBER 01, 2017 07:22 PM
UPDATED DECEMBER 02, 2017 10:52 AM

WASHINGTON
These are difficult times for people who are defending the Nixon administration. No matter where they go they are attacked by pseudo-liberals, McGovern lovers, heterosexual constitutionalists and paranoid John Dean believers.

As a public service, I am printing instant responses for loyal Nixonites when they are attacked at a party. Please cut it out and carry it in your pocket.

Read the rest

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blueraven  Dec 3, 2017 • 11:08:01am

re: #378 Targetpractice

I knew as soon as I saw that story that the wingnuts would try to blow it up into “proof” that Mueller’s investigation was biased.

He was moved off the Trump investigation in July.

A former senior Trump administration official said Strzok was evenhanded in all his dealings with the Trump White House. “I had the occasion to work closely with Special Agent Peter Strzok and never experienced even a hint of political bias. He was one of the most competent [counterintelligence] agents, and a role model,” the official said. “The country is tearing itself apart, and men like Pete Strzok are victims. The enemy is better off with him sidelined,” the former official added, referring to foreign adversaries.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 3, 2017 • 11:08:10am

re: #384 BigPapa

Oh yeah? Well, what about Chappaquiddick?
BY ART BUCHWALD
Republished courtesy of the estate of Art Buchwald
DECEMBER 01, 2017 07:22 PM
UPDATED DECEMBER 02, 2017 10:52 AM

Read the rest

Things don’t change much do they?

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 3, 2017 • 11:12:45am
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Dr. Matt  Dec 3, 2017 • 11:15:30am

re: #384 BigPapa

Oh yeah? Well, what about Chappaquiddick?
BY ART BUCHWALD
Republished courtesy of the estate of Art Buchwald
DECEMBER 01, 2017 07:22 PM
UPDATED DECEMBER 02, 2017 10:52 AM

Read the rest

44 years later, the GOP cultists still require talking points to function.

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meteor  Dec 3, 2017 • 11:16:00am

re: #348 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

I’ll make more. :)

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meteor  Dec 3, 2017 • 11:17:02am

re: #343 ObserverArt

Good idea. Thanks.

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 3, 2017 • 11:17:37am
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BigPapa  Dec 3, 2017 • 11:18:42am

The more things change the more they stay the same - some smart person.

Behind a pay wall:
Inside the secretive nerve center of the Mueller investigation

I get the impression this thing won’t be over fast, it’s just starting to pick up speed. A couple comments of people interviewed said essentially ‘I got the feeling they (prosecution) didn’t know much about X or Y.’ The prosecution will always play aloof and fishing unless they want you to know they got you as a way to apply pressure. It’s quite possible prosecutors don’t know much about an aspect of their purview but my feeling is they know a lot more than they’re letting on.

Oh, and Mueller has a huge staff broken into teams that are specializing in specific areas of investigation.

Knocking off Mueller won’t stop this. I’m sure they have contingency plans if Mueller is fired.

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 3, 2017 • 11:20:40am

re: #385 blueraven

He was moved off the Trump investigation in July.

[snip]
The enemy is better off with him sidelined,” the former official added, referring to foreign adversaries.

Wonder who he meant? Russia? I’m guessing Russia.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 3, 2017 • 11:23:42am

re: #391 FormerDirtDart

Agh.

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Belafon  Dec 3, 2017 • 11:31:15am

re: #391 FormerDirtDart

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HappyWarrior  Dec 3, 2017 • 11:32:43am

It’s honestly sad seeing what FNC is pushing on their gullible viewers. You’d think these people would notice that every time the Trump about Trump and his cronies gets exposed, FNC is right there to have an “explosive” story about the Clintons. I’d feel bad but they never want to listen about how Mr. MAGA could care less about them let alone this country.

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BigPapa  Dec 3, 2017 • 11:34:20am

re: #396 HappyWarrior

Pink Gun Toting Lesbians are the future liberals want.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 3, 2017 • 11:34:43am

re: #396 HappyWarrior

It’s honestly sad seeing what FNC is pushing on their gullible viewers. You’d think these people would notice that every time the Trump about Trump and his cronies gets exposed, FNC is right there to have an “explosive” story about the Clintons. I’d feel bad but they never want to listen about how Mr. MAGA could care less about them let alone this country.

The radical Republicans won’t rest until Bill and Hillary Clinton and Chelsea even her husband and the kids are all lined up before a firing squad!

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Dr. Matt  Dec 3, 2017 • 11:38:33am

It is almost 2018 and TODAY there are White Supremacists outside of the White House defending the occupants inside the White House. Wow. Just fucking wow. How exactly is this MAGA?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 3, 2017 • 11:40:09am

re: #399 Dr. Matt

It is almost 2018 and TODAY there are White Supremacists outside of the White House defending the occupants inside the White House. Wow. Just fucking wow. How exactly is this MAGA?

Answer—Just your typical RepubliKKKlan Pow Wow!

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 3, 2017 • 11:40:26am
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Targetpractice  Dec 3, 2017 • 11:42:50am

re: #392 BigPapa

The more things change the more they stay the same - some smart person.

Behind a pay wall:
Inside the secretive nerve center of the Mueller investigation

I get the impression this thing won’t be over fast, it’s just starting to pick up speed. A couple comments of people interviewed said essentially ‘I got the feeling they (prosecution) didn’t know much about X or Y.’ The prosecution will always play aloof and fishing unless they want you to know they got you as a way to apply pressure. It’s quite possible prosecutors don’t know much about an aspect of their purview but my feeling is they know a lot more than they’re letting on.

Oh, and Mueller has a huge staff broken into teams that are specializing in specific areas of investigation.

Knocking off Mueller won’t stop this. I’m sure they have contingency plans if Mueller is fired.

As it stands right now, there’s enough evidence to convincingly charge several members of the administration with obstruction of justice. But I don’t think Mueller’s planning to stop there, I think he plans to make the case against the Trumps so air-tight that they’ve no choice but to accept plea deals. Which is why, while the odds of his being fired by Donny have gone up, the consequences for doing so have increased exponentially. Not to mention the whole matter would be brought before a judge faster than you can say “Saturday Night Massacre,” which would only prolong the anguish as Donny tweeted up a storm that would only further incriminate him.

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calochortus  Dec 3, 2017 • 11:45:40am

re: #397 BigPapa

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Pink Gun Toting Lesbians are the future liberals want.

Are the lesbians pink, or are their guns? Punctuation would be useful. (I realize it was absent in the original)

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makeitstop  Dec 3, 2017 • 11:46:26am

I had a larger movement after two cups of coffee this morning. Just saying.

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 3, 2017 • 11:46:46am

re: #401 FormerDirtDart

What a bunch of namby-panbys. They need police protection and they have rush to their vehicles.

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A Mom Anon  Dec 3, 2017 • 11:48:28am

re: #401 FormerDirtDart

What a bunch of man babies. Spencer HAD to be hustled away in a waiting SUV did he? Poor Snowflake. He’s afraid of getting punched again, which by the way would be far less likely if he WASN’T A FUCKING NAZI.

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JordanRules  Dec 3, 2017 • 11:48:43am

re: #405 PhillyPretzel

Only the star Nazis get cars. The rest have to use Govt transportation with the unwashed.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 3, 2017 • 11:48:53am

Sigh…

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calochortus  Dec 3, 2017 • 11:50:21am

re: #408 Blind Frog Belly White

Sigh…

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makeitstop  Dec 3, 2017 • 11:51:27am

re: #408 Blind Frog Belly White

Sigh…

[Embedded content]

egCQ1LWoM37iuZ2m1EV0O/6K/9+Uygc8W414ksbrYO2KZZYf93qKnFxjQMv929Rk

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 3, 2017 • 11:51:43am

re: #408 Blind Frog Belly White

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A Mom Anon  Dec 3, 2017 • 11:51:45am

re: #408 Blind Frog Belly White

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 3, 2017 • 12:06:20pm

vwztQTBfOnlaxg0UPCHwrbXTi98dzA1QYuGnb7b6xFf1bj+ucXmIsYlUeYxA4vnNE3Dh6v+rjMdXSku2cpUDayjY0k0flCgw8y44VFa32GgSrjVhgyaZkaOJpvgC1jGhXfccmWtH1ceAGoNtcQQt7C9Hfw2K9hWagsqKxsjiv07t814TZGz0LNf61vC9MDv0el+yuOcomO9NkXUZJDwbBL4fvFHmmRnnN5SS9itFEwT/ZDh5h1qS8bSg5/6oKq/KMHq1LcVQIEIrcQYrfFO4pyPbbqho9hwMtzAF2YWVtBkqpHkaSFhQ0Li0FK2NBbn2uPtqkmilNvAfrE7B5axPffmjXbgOWH47

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 3, 2017 • 12:08:26pm

Ninja Beagle

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 3, 2017 • 12:21:10pm

re: #404 makeitstop

I had a larger movement after two cups of coffee this morning. Just saying.

More or less nuts? Asking for a friend.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 3, 2017 • 12:28:54pm

re: #408 Blind Frog Belly White

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dangerman  Dec 3, 2017 • 12:29:50pm

re: #402 Targetpractice

As it stands right now, there’s enough evidence to convincingly charge several members of the administration with obstruction of justice. But I don’t think Mueller’s planning to stop there, I think he plans to make the case against the Trumps so air-tight that they’ve no choice but to accept plea deals. Which is why, while the odds of his being fired by Donny have gone up, the consequences for doing so have increased exponentially. Not to mention the whole matter would be brought before a judge faster than you can say “Saturday Night Massacre,” which would only prolong the anguish as Donny tweeted up a storm that would only further incriminate him.

hence re congress continuing to do nothing…. my re: #252 dangerman

maybe
they are normalizing child molesting and pu**y grabbing

it maybe harder when there’s a publicly release obvious slam dunk case made for multiple accounts of obstruction, election fraud, conspiracy (or whatever word you want) with foreign powers……

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dangerman  Dec 3, 2017 • 12:30:49pm

re: #406 A Mom Anon

What a bunch of man babies. Spencer HAD to be hustled away in a waiting SUV did he? Poor Snowflake. He’s afraid of getting punched again, which by the way would be far less likely if he WASN’T A FUCKING NAZI.

fixed that for everyone

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lawhawk  Dec 3, 2017 • 12:38:22pm

re: #318 Targetpractice

I noted yesterday that it seems like the only guy who’s “clean” is Rinsed and I suspect that’s because he was never really read into the whole scheme. That the Trumps didn’t trust the GOP leadership and so kept him at arm’s length.

It’s also possible that Reince was already smart enough to cut a deal and keep his trap shut because Mueller’s been real good at getting people interviewed without the media knowing about it.

Mueller’s methodical and thorough, which means that he’s probably going to go back to people he interviewed earlier based on new info too. Once you get some info, and names are shared, you can then go back to others and corroborate (or roll in perjury traps).

None of those around Trump seem to completely understand the gravity of the situation. Even as the indictments and guilty pleas start piling up, they’re still pushing all kind of nonsense.

Yet everyone knows that had any Democrat done a fraction of what this group of compromised and complicit extremists had done, the GOP would have already initiated impeachment against them.

Speaking of compromised and complicit - Kushner’s problems continue piling up as his lies and omissions continue to be documented and yet he continues to maintain his security clearance.

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lawhawk  Dec 3, 2017 • 12:42:55pm

re: #338 Targetpractice

I suspect he’s made a deal, but the question is what exactly could Mueller charge him with? Was he the third Trumper stupid enough to try to lie to the FBI?

What could he be charged with?

Conspiracy against the US. Obstruction of justice. Perjury.

Take your pick.

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CleverToad  Dec 3, 2017 • 12:49:35pm

re: #413 Blind Frog Belly White

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BigPapa  Dec 3, 2017 • 1:43:09pm

re: #403 calochortus

You just proved punctuation can kill people. We should regulate it, but not more than guns. Because 2A.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 3, 2017 • 1:53:06pm

re: #422 BigPapa

You just proved punctuation can kill people. We should regulate it, but not more than guns. Because 2A.

People don’t kill people, punctuation kills people.
That’s the First Amendment.

HANDS OFF MY PUNCTUATION!!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 3, 2017 • 1:53:47pm

re: #423 Backwoods_Sleuth

People don’t kill people, punctuation kills people.
That’s the First Amendment.

HANDS OFF MY PUNCTUATION!!!

LOLOLOLOL! I got that completely assbackwards!


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Beth Hart & Joe Bonamassa - Black Coffee (Official Music Video) Official video for Black Coffee from the new Beth Hart & Joe Bonamassa album Black Coffee. Pre-order: smarturl.it BLACK COFFEE is available to pre-order on CD and vinyl. The limited CD box includes 2 coasters, a postcard and an ...
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