A Big Development in Mueller’s Investigation: Trump’s Deutsche Bank Records Subpoenaed

Special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into Trump’s connections with Russia is not over, as the news breaks that several weeks ago, Mueller issued a subpoena for Trump’s financial records with Deutsche Bank.

Special prosecutor Robert Mueller zeroed in on President Donald Trump’s business dealings with Deutsche Bank AG as his investigation into alleged Russian meddling in U.S. elections widens.

Mueller issued a subpoena to Germany’s largest lender several weeks ago, forcing the bank to submit documents on its relationship with Trump and his family, according to a person briefed on the matter, who asked not to be identified because the action has not been announced.

“Deutsche Bank always cooperates with investigating authorities in all countries,” the lender said in a statement to Bloomberg Tuesday, declining to provide additional information.

Deutsche Bank for months has rebuffed calls by Democratic lawmakers to provide more transparency over the roughly $300 million Trump owed to the bank for his real estate dealings prior to becoming president. Representative Maxine Waters of California and other Democrats have asked whether the bank’s loans to Trump, made years before he ran for president, were in any way connected to Russia. The bank previously rejected those demands, saying sharing client data would be illegal unless it received a formal request to do so. Trump has denied any wrongdoing.

The significant thing about this development is that Deutsche Bank is the only major bank in the world that still does business with the notoriously bankruptcy-prone Trump — and Deutsche Bank is also notorious for being caught several times laundering money for Russian interests.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 5, 2017 • 12:02:27pm
Deutsche Bank is also notorious for being caught several times laundering money for Russian interests.

Wow, that is interesting.

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jaunte  Dec 5, 2017 • 12:04:08pm
“Deutsche Bank always cooperates…”

When forced to by subpoenas.

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jaunte  Dec 5, 2017 • 12:05:16pm

Almost CL’ ed at the end of the last thread:
Interesting thread about Democratic support for a free press:

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 5, 2017 • 12:05:59pm

re: #1 Sir John Barron

Wow, that is interesting.

Let’s connect the dots. Why would a bank laundering money for the Russians loan money to a man whose credit rating is worse than an unemployed meth addict?

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Danack  Dec 5, 2017 • 12:09:13pm

Winston Churchill ‘Now we are Masters of Our Fate’ Speech

Actually, it has the chance to be the beginning of the end. But I love that quote.

Er - that was meant to be: Churchill: “This is not the end” (nov. 1942)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 5, 2017 • 12:09:53pm

This was a theme in the latest Fargo series: a company that borrows money around 2008 when loans are hard to come by from a Russian-based bank that later comes back and demands a very high price to pay back the loan.

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 5, 2017 • 12:12:21pm

re: #6 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This was a theme in the latest Fargo series: a company that borrows money around 2008 when loans are hard to come by from a Russian-based bank that later comes back and demands a very high price to pay back the loan.

Its a great series, very bingable if you haven’t seen it.

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makeitstop  Dec 5, 2017 • 12:13:18pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 5, 2017 • 12:15:01pm
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ipsos  Dec 5, 2017 • 12:16:48pm

HOW. IN. THE. HELL. IS. DAVID. FUCKING. DUKE. STILL. ON. TWITTER.

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jaunte  Dec 5, 2017 • 12:17:48pm

re: #9 Charles Johnson

Stunning to see Pizzagate Cernovich condemning anyone for a “conspiracy theory.”

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makeitstop  Dec 5, 2017 • 12:18:12pm

Hey, look who got a kickin’ loan from Deutschebank a month before the election!

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Sir John Barron  Dec 5, 2017 • 12:18:13pm

re: #5 Danack

The man behind Churchill, to his right, looks rather eerily like Mike Pence.

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jaunte  Dec 5, 2017 • 12:18:27pm

MSNBC: Sensitive about Roman Polanski’s pedophilia.

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Interesting Times  Dec 5, 2017 • 12:18:48pm

re: #9 Charles Johnson

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 5, 2017 • 12:18:57pm

re: #9 Charles Johnson

WHY??????

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Sir John Barron  Dec 5, 2017 • 12:19:08pm

re: #7 Big Beautiful Door

Its a great series, very bingable if you haven’t seen it.

What season is it up to now? I saw some of the first season but have lost track since then.

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mmmirele  Dec 5, 2017 • 12:20:20pm

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makeitstop  Dec 5, 2017 • 12:21:24pm

re: #16 Eclectic Cyborg

WHY??????

Kompromat, probably.

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 5, 2017 • 12:28:41pm

re: #17 Sir John Barron

What season is it up to now? I saw some of the first season but have lost track since then.

I think this was the third season. It was excellent.

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scottslemmons  Dec 5, 2017 • 12:29:00pm

re: #16 Eclectic Cyborg

WHY??????

That’s the bit I don’t understand. Why would a giant fucking news network be afraid of a bunch of Nazis who routinely get scared away by gigantic crowds of anti-Nazi protesters?

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KGxvi  Dec 5, 2017 • 12:29:43pm

re: #7 Big Beautiful Door

Its a great series, very bingable if you haven’t seen it.

Is it on any of the streaming services? Preferably Netflix or Hulu?

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Teukka  Dec 5, 2017 • 12:30:24pm

re: #21 scottslemmons

That’s the bit I don’t understand. Why would a giant fucking news network be afraid of a bunch of Nazis who routinely get scared away by gigantic crowds of anti-Nazi protesters?

As stated above, I strongly suspect компрома́т.

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 5, 2017 • 12:30:38pm

re: #22 KGxvi

Is it on any of the streaming services? Preferably Netflix or Hulu?

Yes, Netflix I think, though I have both so I’m not sure.

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dangerman  Dec 5, 2017 • 12:30:56pm

yesterday i unveiled an early new year’s resolution to play every single piece of music charles posts (and all others as well)

any one else having trouble getting the one at the top of this thread to play?

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 5, 2017 • 12:31:24pm

re: #21 scottslemmons

That’s the bit I don’t understand. Why would a giant fucking news network be afraid of a bunch of Nazis who routinely get scared away by gigantic crowds of anti-Nazi protesters?

I don’t understand why a giant network would be afraid of a crackpot conspiracy theorist. I don’t see them scared shitless of Alex Jones or anything.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 5, 2017 • 12:31:52pm
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Decatur Deb  Dec 5, 2017 • 12:33:08pm

re: #18 mmmirele

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jaunte  Dec 5, 2017 • 12:34:00pm
The significant thing about this development is that Deutsche Bank is the only major bank in the world that still does business with the notoriously bankruptcy-prone Trump — and Deutsche Bank is also notorious for being caught several times laundering money for Russian interests.

If there is a banker/finance person in the house, can you offer any legitimate reason why any bank would do business with someone who has defaulted on so many loans in the past?

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 5, 2017 • 12:42:33pm

re: #29 jaunte

If there is a banker/finance person in the house, can you offer any legitimate reason why any bank would do business with someone who has defaulted on so many loans in the past?

To say that Trump is a credit risk is the understatement of all time. Hell, even a loanshark standing on the corner of Westchester and Taylor in the Bronx would probably have serious doubts about lending Trump $50.

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lawhawk  Dec 5, 2017 • 12:47:08pm

While all this is going, guess what’s going to suck the air out of these developments:

Yeah, with Trump about to indicate US is moving to recognize Jerusalem as Israel’s capital or move the embassy or other steps, with Mueller’s investigation closing in on Kushner and Trump directly, it’s going to be the National Enquirer’s editor sex scandal that will deflect attention (and it also happens to be run by an ally of Trump, so there’s that).

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 5, 2017 • 12:48:34pm

re: #31 lawhawk

While all this is going, guess what’s going to suck the air out of these developments:

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Yeah, with Trump about to indicate US is moving to recognize Jerusalem as Israel’s capital or move the embassy or other steps, with Mueller’s investigation closing in on Kushner and Trump directly, it’s going to be the National Enquirer’s editor sex scandal that will deflect attention (and it also happens to be run by an ally of Trump, so there’s that).

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garzooma  Dec 5, 2017 • 12:57:46pm

re: #29 jaunte

If there is a banker/finance person in the house, can you offer any legitimate reason why any bank would do business with someone who has defaulted on so many loans in the past?

It’s worse than that. Trump specifically sued Deutsche Bank to avoid repaying a loan. It’s dumb to loan to someone who doesn’t repay other banks’ loans. It something else to loan to someone who tries to not repay you.

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lawhawk  Dec 5, 2017 • 12:59:17pm

So, why is Alan Dershowitz pursuing such bass-ackward statements and nonsensical legal theories on Twitter and elsewhere?

He’s interviewing to be Trump’s defense team, and this is how he gets noticed. Show up on Twitter and Fox.

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mmmirele  Dec 5, 2017 • 1:01:33pm

re: #28 Decatur Deb

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Charles Johnson  Dec 5, 2017 • 1:01:46pm

If anyone’s interested in checking out the epicenter of the attacks on Joy Reid, this hashtag is their organizing place: #AMDeza

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 5, 2017 • 1:02:29pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 5, 2017 • 1:02:30pm

re: #31 lawhawk

While all this is going, guess what’s going to suck the air out of these developments:

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Yeah, with Trump about to indicate US is moving to recognize Jerusalem as Israel’s capital or move the embassy or other steps, with Mueller’s investigation closing in on Kushner and Trump directly, it’s going to be the National Enquirer’s editor sex scandal that will deflect attention (and it also happens to be run by an ally of Trump, so there’s that).

His nickname was Dildo. He was a walking, talking sex harassment claim.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 5, 2017 • 1:02:38pm

re: #36 Charles Johnson

The people posting under that hashtag are seriously deranged. “Deza,” by the way, is Russian slang for “disinformation.”

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mmmirele  Dec 5, 2017 • 1:05:32pm

re: #31 lawhawk

When I was in J-school, many years ago (in fact, I was supposed to graduate from UT Austin with a Bachelor of Journalism 35 years ago this month), we all knew the National Enquirer paid INSANE money to its “journalists.” It was $35K, which, compared to the around $10K paid to just starting journalists was very tempting. But working for the Enquirer was also described as working in a plush coffin-horrible working conditions and less than stellar ethics. Probably included some of this as well.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 5, 2017 • 1:07:08pm

This is the major new right wing talking point, and it seriously looks like they’re laying the groundwork for Trump to fire Robert Mueller.

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Belafon  Dec 5, 2017 • 1:08:09pm

re: #41 Charles Johnson

This is the major new right wing talking point, and it seriously looks like they’re laying the groundwork for Trump to fire Robert Mueller.

Not gonna matter what they do.

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sagehen  Dec 5, 2017 • 1:10:52pm

re: #21 scottslemmons

That’s the bit I don’t understand. Why would a giant fucking news network be afraid of a bunch of Nazis who routinely get scared away by gigantic crowds of anti-Nazi protesters?

The program director at MSNBC is himself a RWNJ — he wanted to fire the entire prime-time lineup, was stymied by Rachel and Lawrence’s ginormous ratings increases.

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makeitstop  Dec 5, 2017 • 1:11:22pm
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Targetpractice  Dec 5, 2017 • 1:15:55pm

re: #41 Charles Johnson

This is the major new right wing talking point, and it seriously looks like they’re laying the groundwork for Trump to fire Robert Mueller.

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They’ve been trying for months to build a defense for Trump firing Mueller. Every time they think they have the perfect plan, another shoe drops and the political price of doing so gets drop-kicked back into the stratosphere.

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Ace Rothstein  Dec 5, 2017 • 1:15:59pm

re: #13 Sir John Barron

The man behind Churchill, to his right, looks rather eerily like Mike Pence.

And below him it looks like John Boehner.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 5, 2017 • 1:16:09pm

re: #41 Charles Johnson

This is the major new right wing talking point, and it seriously looks like they’re laying the groundwork for Trump to fire Robert Mueller.

“Collusion with Russia is fine but this FBI agent’s email is something else altogether!”

///

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Sir John Barron  Dec 5, 2017 • 1:16:22pm

re: #43 sagehen

The program director at MSNBC is himself a RWNJ — he wanted to fire the entire prime-time lineup, was stymied by Rachel and Lawrence’s ginormous ratings increases.

Who would that be?

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sagehen  Dec 5, 2017 • 1:19:04pm

re: #48 Sir John Barron

Who would that be?

Andy Lack.

huffingtonpost.com

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jaunte  Dec 5, 2017 • 1:19:14pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2017 • 1:22:25pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 5, 2017 • 1:22:43pm

Imagine if Mueller got fired only days before he was about drop an indictment for Kushner.

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wrenchwench  Dec 5, 2017 • 1:24:08pm

re: #51 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Hey! He’s using the deplorables’ basket.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2017 • 1:25:57pm

re: #50 jaunte

Brilliance.

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unproven innocence  Dec 5, 2017 • 1:28:47pm

re: #12 makeitstop

Hey, look who got a kickin’ loan from Deutschebank a month before the election!

I recently had in my hand a check from Deutschebank. The dollar amount was 3 digits, and I noticed that between the $ sign and those 3 digits were EIGHT asterisks. (I counted them twice :)

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makeitstop  Dec 5, 2017 • 1:30:48pm

Wow. The mind of a Trump Cultist is an impenetrable fortress of derp.

So far:

ABC, Bloomberg, Business Insider, NY Daily News, NPR, Fortune, Washington Times, BBC, Daily Beast, National Post, Yahoo, CNBC, Newsweek, NY Magazine, NY Post, Breitbart, The Street, Axios, Haaretz, Hot Air, HuffPost, Mother Jones, Independent UK, Fast Company, SF Chronicle, Sky News, MSN, BBC World have all reported on the Mueller subpoena of Deutschebank.

And there are still Trump Cultists insisting that it’s fake news because Huckabee apparently denied it today.

Boy, are they ever in for a surprise.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2017 • 1:31:15pm

“Kushner Mid East peace Work” (sic)

O_o

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 5, 2017 • 1:32:57pm

New poll has Jones up by four. Too close to call!

realclearpolitics.com

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makeitstop  Dec 5, 2017 • 1:33:08pm

re: #57 Backwoods_Sleuth

A small number of US troops repositioned to be closer to countries where there is concern unrest may break out once President Trump makes his expected announcement to recognize #Jerusalem as the capital of Israel & signal intention to move the emb

Yeah, we’re gonna need more troops.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 5, 2017 • 1:33:39pm

re: #58 Big Beautiful Door

New poll has Jones up by four. Too close to call!

realclearpolitics.com

scary to think that there is still a good chance that Moore could win this

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makeitstop  Dec 5, 2017 • 1:35:47pm

re: #58 Big Beautiful Door

New poll has Jones up by four. Too close to call!

realclearpolitics.com

Not even gonna look at polls at this point.

I’ll just brace for the worst and maybe be pleasantly surprised. Maybe.

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lawhawk  Dec 5, 2017 • 1:35:52pm

re: #60 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

scary to think that there is still a good chance that Moore could win this

It’s Alabama.

More specifically, it’s the AL GOP who will back anyone with a (R) after their name over anyone else, even if their chosen nominee is a child molester and sex predator.

Because being a Democrat is somehow worse than being a child molester in the minds of these people. How dare anyone consider better health coverage, more protections for workers, and trying to get employees better wages? That’s not what makes the country great. It’s electing millionaires and billionaires to office so that they can get richer and we get the scraps.

That’s just how it was all intended.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 5, 2017 • 1:36:46pm

re: #56 makeitstop

Wow. The mind of a Trump Cultist is an impenetrable fortress of derp.

So far:

ABC, Bloomberg, Business Insider, NY Daily News, NPR, Fortune, Washington Times, BBC, Daily Beast, National Post, Yahoo, CNBC, Newsweek, NY Magazine, NY Post, Breitbart, The Street, Axios, Haaretz, Hot Air, HuffPost, Mother Jones, Independent UK, Fast Company, SF Chronicle, Sky News, MSN, BBC World have all reported on the Mueller subpoena of Deutschebank.

And there are still Trump Cultists insisting that it’s fake news because Huckabee apparently denied it today.

Boy, are they ever in for a surprise.

I thought Trumpbots were using the subpoena as an excuse for Trumpy to fire Mueller.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 5, 2017 • 1:36:56pm
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Ace-o-aces  Dec 5, 2017 • 1:38:04pm

re: #41 Charles Johnson

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2017 • 1:38:59pm
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Stanley Sea  Dec 5, 2017 • 1:39:46pm

re: #56 makeitstop

Wow. The mind of a Trump Cultist is an impenetrable fortress of derp.

So far:

ABC, Bloomberg, Business Insider, NY Daily News, NPR, Fortune, Washington Times, BBC, Daily Beast, National Post, Yahoo, CNBC, Newsweek, NY Magazine, NY Post, Breitbart, The Street, Axios, Haaretz, Hot Air, HuffPost, Mother Jones, Independent UK, Fast Company, SF Chronicle, Sky News, MSN, BBC World have all reported on the Mueller subpoena of Deutschebank.

And there are still Trump Cultists insisting that it’s fake news because Huckabee apparently denied it today.

Boy, are they ever in for a surprise.

Idjit lawyer Suckalow said it wasn’t true.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2017 • 1:39:58pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2017 • 1:40:20pm
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dangerman  Dec 5, 2017 • 1:40:31pm

currently:

YouTube

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Stanley Sea  Dec 5, 2017 • 1:41:42pm

re: #64 Charles Johnson

This will be one of the clearest cut cases of blood on your hands.

All to keep the 27% deplorables on his side.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 5, 2017 • 1:41:43pm

re: #69 Backwoods_Sleuth

This isn’t a Disney movie. Shut the fuck up Elaine.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 5, 2017 • 1:43:14pm

re: #71 Stanley Sea

This will be one of the clearest cut cases of blood on your hands.

All to keep the 27% deplorables on his side.

The world has to fall apart before Jesus comes back, right?

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makeitstop  Dec 5, 2017 • 1:43:34pm

re: #63 Sir John Barron

I thought Trumpbots were using the subpoena as an excuse for Trumpy to fire Mueller.

Well, yeah.

Just like they used the non-existent Pizzagate scandal to prove that Clinton was a pedophile, which was bad, except when they’re voting for a Senate candidate who ‘dated’ 14 year olds, which is apparently somehow good.

Like I said, an impenetrable fortress. You can get more lost in those hallways than Spinal Tap did in Cleveland.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2017 • 1:45:51pm

too bad Flake doesn’t vote country over party…

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makeitstop  Dec 5, 2017 • 1:46:09pm

re: #70 dangerman

currently:

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Video

I saw that tour, with Billy Cobham on drums. Epic.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 5, 2017 • 1:46:22pm

re: #64 Charles Johnson

There’s absolutely no pressing need to move the US embassy to Jerusalem, and MANY reasons why it’s terrible idea. If Trump announces he’s going to do this, he’s putting Americans all over the world at grave risk for no damned reason at all.

you fail to appreciate the MAGA mentality that fuels this Presidency: at this point: if he does not move the embassy, it will be seen as if he were caving into mooslim demands and giving into pc.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 5, 2017 • 1:47:13pm

re: #60 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

scary to think that there is still a good chance that Moore could win this

Doug Jones might be approaching a 50-50 shot. That’s phenomenal in itself. The last AL senate race was won by the Republican with 43 points to spare.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 5, 2017 • 1:47:19pm

re: #58 Big Beautiful Door

New poll has Jones up by four. Too close to call!

realclearpolitics.com

Last year’s election — especially the Democratic primary in Michigan — should have taught everyone that the polls aren’t worth the pixels that display them. Sure, it’s nice to hope the good guy is ahead but there is no reason to think that these worthless polls prove anything. Let’s see what happens on election night.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2017 • 1:48:11pm
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bill d. (b.d.)  Dec 5, 2017 • 1:48:48pm

re: #75 Backwoods_Sleuth

too bad Flake doesn’t vote country over party…

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That children, is a thing they used to call a check……

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Dec 5, 2017 • 1:49:07pm

re: #61 makeitstop

Not even gonna look at polls at this point.

I’ll just brace for the worst and maybe be pleasantly surprised. Maybe.

You might want to consider working for the campaign (I don’t know where you are, but I’m doing it from CA), or sending them a few bucks, if you can afford it. Call it an investment in an early Christmas present.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2017 • 1:49:26pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 5, 2017 • 1:49:45pm

re: #81 bill d. (b.d.)

That children, is a thing they used to call a check……

Some of us still use them — on occasion — once in awhile.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 5, 2017 • 1:51:13pm

re: #81 bill d. (b.d.)

That children, is a thing they used to call a check……

Europeans kids would have no idea. People do not use checks here, almost everything is done by bank transfer. Last time I got a check, it was a cashier’s check to cover the balance of a cancelled car insurance policy. That is about the only check I have seen or used in the past 20 years.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2017 • 1:51:47pm

re: #69 Backwoods_Sleuth

Head hurts.

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mmmirele  Dec 5, 2017 • 1:53:27pm

re: #55 unproven innocence

I recently had in my hand a check from Deutschebank. The dollar amount was 3 digits, and I noticed that between the $ sign and those 3 digits were EIGHT asterisks. (I counted them twice :)

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lawhawk  Dec 5, 2017 • 1:54:01pm

re: #77 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Trump hears from Jared that he should move the embassy because reasons, and Trump will respond to that.

There’s been no movement otherwise. There’s been no functional peace process, and Bibi remains under investigation (it’s a race to see who gets indicted first - Bibi or Trump for their separate criminality). Even many Israelis know that this move is likely to result in another Intifada or make it more dangerous for Israel in the short term. There’s no pressing reason to move it, other than to basically say that the US is no longer the “neutral” intermediary between Israel and the Palestinians. Palestinians will see this as all the reason they need not to do anything else except consider conflict because they don’t have a reason to trust the US.

It doesn’t create an opportunity for peace here either.

What’s Jared thinking? That moving the embassy will be met with silence, and everyone moves on as if nothing changed?

He might hope for that - but that’s not how anything works in the real world, and it’s not how national security and foreign policy gets done. You don’t upturn decades of policy on the hope no one notices the change and just accepts a change in 40 year old policy.

This is unlike the Cuba normalization Obama did as well. That was a bilateral move where the US opened basic diplomatic relations, which the US even maintained with the Soviets during the Cold War. The embargo got us nowhere, and Castro remained in power. It was a useless gesture to keep the embargo.

So of course, Trump wants to reverse that too. Because all Trump wants to do is reverse Obama’s legacy around the world and here at home.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Dec 5, 2017 • 1:54:12pm

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makeitstop  Dec 5, 2017 • 1:54:40pm

re: #82 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

You might want to consider working for the campaign (I don’t know where you are, but I’m doing it from CA), or sending them a few bucks, if you can afford it. Call it an investment in an early Christmas present.

$25 donated.

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dangerman  Dec 5, 2017 • 1:56:32pm

re: #81 bill d. (b.d.)

That children, is a thing they used to call a check……

and re this: re: #70 dangerman

i’m actually using WMP to listen to an mp3, made from a cassette tape recording of a vinyl lp - pops, scratches and all

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dangerman  Dec 5, 2017 • 1:57:53pm

re: #83 Backwoods_Sleuth

BREAKING: Senate confirms deputy White House chief of staff Kirstjen Nielsen to lead Department of Homeland Security.

they keep shuffling the chairs cause they got no one left

no one with any sense (or talent) is gonna set foot in that administration now

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Charles Johnson  Dec 5, 2017 • 1:59:44pm

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allegro  Dec 5, 2017 • 2:00:38pm

re: #92 dangerman

they keep shuffling the chairs cause they got no one left

no one with any sense (or talent) is gonna set foot in that administration now

Haven’t seen anyone with any sense or talent be invited to. Those qualities are instant rejects.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2017 • 2:01:04pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2017 • 2:02:28pm

re: #95 Backwoods_Sleuth

This is scary.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2017 • 2:02:52pm
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Dave In Austin  Dec 5, 2017 • 2:02:54pm

Jesus!!! This Woman!! Good Grief!

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makeitstop  Dec 5, 2017 • 2:03:16pm

100
GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 5, 2017 • 2:04:05pm

re: #75 Backwoods_Sleuth

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 5, 2017 • 2:05:11pm

People gotta stop falling for this shit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2017 • 2:05:41pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 5, 2017 • 2:06:41pm

re: #99 makeitstop

[Embedded content]

American Cuck Liberal University?

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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2017 • 2:07:30pm

re: #99 makeitstop

[Embedded content]

Haha.

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Skip Intro  Dec 5, 2017 • 2:07:59pm

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makeitstop  Dec 5, 2017 • 2:09:12pm

re: #103 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

American Cuck Liberal University?

That, or someone’s dyslexic.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 5, 2017 • 2:09:17pm

re: #101 goddamnedfrank

People gotta stop falling for this shit.

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Only Democrats and liberals ever do this. No right winger ever congratulates a Democrat for voting for one of their regressive bills, even though it happens all the time.

The idea that we’re going to encourage more Republicans to stop doing insane things by falling all over ourselves to praise them when they make empty gestures like this is stunningly naïve. It achieves nothing but to make liberals look weak and easily hoodwinked.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2017 • 2:09:30pm

re: #99 makeitstop

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LOLOLOLOLOLOL

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Sir John Barron  Dec 5, 2017 • 2:11:23pm

re: #74 makeitstop

Well, yeah.

Just like they used the non-existent Pizzagate scandal to prove that Clinton was a pedophile, which was bad, except when they’re voting for a Senate candidate who ‘dated’ 14 year olds, which is apparently somehow good.

Like I said, an impenetrable fortress. You can get more lost in those hallways than Spinal Tap did in Cleveland.

Of course for Trumpbots, both can be true at once: That is, the subpoena is Fake Newz AND a sign that Mueller is corrupt and overreaching and DJT should fire him.

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dangerman  Dec 5, 2017 • 2:11:32pm

re: #106 makeitstop

That, or someone’s dyslexic.

or just not too bright

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Charles Johnson  Dec 5, 2017 • 2:12:11pm

Jeff Flake may be anti-Trump, but he’s still a truly awful human being in every other way that counts.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 5, 2017 • 2:12:19pm

re: #99 makeitstop

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That’s gold, Jerry. GOLD!

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electrotek  Dec 5, 2017 • 2:13:19pm

re: #111 Charles Johnson

Jeff Flake may be anti-Trump, but he’s still a truly awful human being in every other way that counts.

I know it’s not saying much, but at least he was one of the few Republicans who spoke out against Islamophobia of his own party recently.

But that just shows how far low the bar has fallen where we would find credit for something like that instead of being a trait that everyone should have.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2017 • 2:13:49pm

re: #111 Charles Johnson

Jeff Flake may be anti-Trump, but he’s still a truly awful human being in every other way that counts.

He’s also voted for just about 90% of what Trump administration wants.

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fern01  Dec 5, 2017 • 2:14:24pm

re: #92 dangerman

they keep shuffling the chairs cause they got no one left

no one with any sense (or talent) is gonna set foot in that administration now

no-one with any sense (or talent) has set foot in that administration since it started. All the talk about the generals being the smart guys - And McMaster is advising/onside with moving the US embassy to Jerusalem?

116
HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2017 • 2:14:29pm

re: #113 electrotek

I know it’s not saying much, but at least he was one of the few Republicans who spoke out against Islamophobia of his own party recently.

But that just shows how far low the bar has fallen where we would find credit for something like that instead of being a trait that everyone should have.

It really is a low bar. John Kasich was seen as a “moderate” last year ffs.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 5, 2017 • 2:15:44pm

re: #113 electrotek

I know it’s not saying much, but at least he was one of the few Republicans who spoke out against Islamophobia of his own party recently.

But that just shows how far low the bar has fallen where we would find credit for something like that instead of being a trait that everyone should have.

If he’s a Republican and he’s not dating a girl scout, that has to count for something.

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 5, 2017 • 2:22:08pm

Jeff Flake has always been pretty horrible but pretending he opposed sanctions on apartheid South Africa while he was a lobbyist for a Namibian uranium mine because they sanctions would hurt black mine workers was even worse than I expected. All he gave a shit about was that the American mine owners he represented would lose access.

Republican Rep. Jeff Flake, who is running for Senate in Arizona, denied this weekend that he had ever supported the Apartheid government in South Africa while a lobbyist for a Namibian uranium mine, but new audio reveals that his denial may not hold water.

In 1987, Flake testified before the Utah State Senate in support of a resolution expressing support for the government of South Africa while racial segregation laws were enforced — largely to support U.S. mining interests in the region. In testimony flagged by a Democratic source, Flake opposed sanctions on the regime, arguing they only worsened the living conditions for black South Africans.

Flake said, “as far as the economic sanctions having a … more direct impact on the black community, I overhear we tend to think of every black South African as a radical stone-throwing protestor who will stop at nothing until the government is overthrown,” Flake said according to a transcript of the his testimony. “There are moderate elements there. There have been a lot of polls taken both ways. Most of them come out with about, that there are more moderates, considered moderate, than there are radicals. Those are funny terms and most of them aren’t moderate, they just don’t care one way or another or they don’t know about the situation. It has had a dramatic impact on the black population, the biggest impact is that the companies pulling out, the American companies pulling out…”

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 5, 2017 • 2:24:48pm

re: #105 Skip Intro

Makes me think of that Megadeth song. “Looting’s my business… and business is good”.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Dec 5, 2017 • 2:25:24pm

re: #93 Charles Johnson

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 5, 2017 • 2:26:40pm

re: #100 GlutenFreeJesus

Jeff Flake

@JeffFlake
Country over Party pic.twitter.com

This place is infested with Nazis.
@efuseakay
You just voted for the GOP tax scam. Show us “country over party” with your VOTES, not some tax-deductible pocket-change donation.
4:03 PM - Dec 5, 2017

Contributions to political campaigns are not tax-deductible. And Jeff Flake is one of the poorer members of the Senate —- he’s not even a millionaire and started out his Senate career with a very modest net worth. So $100 may still mean something to him.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2017 • 2:26:50pm

re: #118 goddamnedfrank

Jeff Flake has always been pretty horrible but pretending he opposed sanctions on apartheid South Africa while he was a lobbyist for a Namibian uranium mine because they sanctions would hurt black mine workers was even worse than I expected. All he gave a shit about was that the American mine owners he represented would lose access.

Wow I never heard about that. I did know about his fellow Arizonan and colleague, McCain who did oppose the MLK birthday holiday.

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electrotek  Dec 5, 2017 • 2:28:25pm

re: #118 goddamnedfrank

Jeff Flake has always been pretty horrible but pretending he opposed sanctions on apartheid South Africa while he was a lobbyist for a Namibian uranium mine because they sanctions would hurt black mine workers was even worse than I expected. All he gave a shit about was that the American mine owners he represented would lose access.

Holy shit!

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Dec 5, 2017 • 2:28:37pm

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 5, 2017 • 2:29:48pm

re: #116 HappyWarrior

It really is a low bar. John Kasich was seen as a “moderate” last year ffs.

He was the best of the final 4.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 5, 2017 • 2:30:55pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2017 • 2:30:58pm

re: #125 Hecuba’s daughter

He was the best of the final 4.

Between Trump, Rubio, and Cruz, that’s not really saying a lot about him. More a reflection on the other three.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 5, 2017 • 2:31:31pm

re: #121 Hecuba’s daughter

Yeah, true. I messed up on the tax deductible thing. But no way he’s scrounging for $100.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Dec 5, 2017 • 2:31:32pm

re: #100 GlutenFreeJesus

I agree in principle, but political contributions aren’t tax-deductible.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 5, 2017 • 2:33:12pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2017 • 2:34:21pm

Trump Jr on the fish fryer.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 5, 2017 • 2:35:34pm

Didn’t Donny Jr. say you don’t have to remember anything if you always told the truth?

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Jay C  Dec 5, 2017 • 2:41:06pm

re: #130 Charles Johnson

And besides, did Ms. Veselnitskaya (or anybody else) ever come up with any link to “illegal contributions to the Clinton Foundation” that wasn’t - at most - unconfirmed rumor? And am I mis-remembering that Hillary Clinton, during the campaign, took great pains to point out that the CF carefully vetted its contributions (to the point of returning questionable donations)??

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makeitstop  Dec 5, 2017 • 2:41:20pm

If you had Junior as anything lower than #2 on the Indictment Top 10, you may want to revise your list.

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jaunte  Dec 5, 2017 • 2:41:34pm
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jaunte  Dec 5, 2017 • 2:42:31pm

WSJ editorial page is vying for credibility with the National Enquirer.

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Jebediah, RBG  Dec 5, 2017 • 2:44:29pm

re: #132 GlutenFreeJesus

Didn’t Donny Jr. say you don’t have to remember anything if you always told the truth?

Naw, that was Judge Judy.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 5, 2017 • 2:46:04pm
139
HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2017 • 2:49:38pm

re: #135 jaunte

What has Mueller lied about? Pathetic WSJ.

140
jaunte  Dec 5, 2017 • 2:50:15pm

re: #139 HappyWarrior

“Stonewalling” = not leaking like a sieve.

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makeitstop  Dec 5, 2017 • 2:52:07pm

re: #140 jaunte

“Stonewalling” = not leaking like a sieve.

I think that refers to turning evidence over to the compromised Devin Nunes, who would subsequently move to bury it as deep as he possibly could.

142
calochortus  Dec 5, 2017 • 2:52:14pm

This may have been commented on earlier, but I see the White House says Mueller didn’t subpoena Deutsche Bank records. Hmmmm. Who to believe?

143
Decatur Deb  Dec 5, 2017 • 2:52:58pm

Jeez—Alabama Dems are learning to raise a knee to the groin.

Some nasty Dems sucked up all the advance tickets to the Moore/Bannon event tonight in Baldwin County. They’ve thrown the gates open to the public.

By coincidence, the Baldwin County Dems are holding free showings of the Spike Lee documentary on the death of the 4 little girls in the 16th Street Church bombing.

al.com

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Dec 5, 2017 • 2:54:48pm

re: #143 Decatur Deb

There’s a faint scent of Victory in the air, they’re trying to lure it in.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 5, 2017 • 2:56:01pm

re: #144 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

There’s a faint scent of Victory in the air, they’re trying to lure it in.

Smells like napalm.

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Skip Intro  Dec 5, 2017 • 2:56:22pm
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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Dec 5, 2017 • 3:04:41pm

Future scientist:

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Dave In Austin  Dec 5, 2017 • 3:08:17pm
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Stanley Sea  Dec 5, 2017 • 3:08:27pm
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Mike Lamb  Dec 5, 2017 • 3:08:44pm

re: #141 makeitstop

I think that refers to turning evidence over to the compromised Devin Nunes, who would subsequently move to bury it as deep as he possibly could.

Seriously, what obligation does someone in the DOJ have to share any part of their investigation with Congress? Particularly where, as you noted, there’s a real chance that members of Congress are neck deep in the whole thing.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 5, 2017 • 3:09:58pm

re: #135 jaunte

The Hoarse Whisperer
@HoarseWisperer
It’s getting harder and harder to tell the difference between Rupert Murdoch’s two papers: the New York Post and the Wall Street Journal.


4:38 PM - Dec 5, 2017
6 6 Replies 23 23 Retweets 57 57 likes]

Anyone who thinks this is new for the WSJ editorial page hasn’t been reading them for long. I stopped in 1988 during the Dukakis- Bush campaign when I realized that their editorials and almost all their columnists were liars,deceivers, and completely dishonest; they were Fox News before there was a Fox News; they were Rush Limbaugh before there was a Rush Limbaugh. They were always toxic and evil.

At one time the rest of the paper wasn’t terrible, but I suspect that under Murdoch’s management it has declined significantly.

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jaunte  Dec 5, 2017 • 3:11:39pm

re: #151 Hecuba’s daughter

I remember they were very big on the “drug flights into Mena, Arkansas” and “Vince Foster in Ft. Marcy Park” smears.

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Ace-o-aces  Dec 5, 2017 • 3:13:18pm
154
Hecuba's daughter  Dec 5, 2017 • 3:15:20pm

re: #152 jaunte

I remember they were very big on the “drug flights into Mena, Arkansas” and “Vince Foster in Ft. Marcy Park” smears.

They were also really big on the “cold fusion” fraud.

155
electrotek  Dec 5, 2017 • 3:16:13pm

I don’t know what I should be more worried about: Trump dropping a nuke on North Korea or moving the US Embassy to Jerusalem.

156
garzooma  Dec 5, 2017 • 3:16:38pm

re: #142 calochortus

This may have been commented on earlier, but I see the White House says Mueller didn’t subpoena Deutsche Bank records. Hmmmm. Who to believe?

I was wondering about this myself. For one thing, Mueller been running a famously tight ship. So how did news of the subpoena get out? For another, the media has recently been fooled by reports of the imminent ouster of Tillerson (note: he isn’t gone). So while it’s plausible that the records have been subpoenaed, and almost certain that they will be eventually, the current reports need to be confirmed.

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Ace-o-aces  Dec 5, 2017 • 3:16:42pm

re: #152 jaunte

I remember they were very big on the “drug flights into Mena, Arkansas” and “Vince Foster in Ft. Marcy Park” smears.

The funniest/most frustrating thing about the whole “drug flights into Mena, Arkansas” controversy is that it was actually tied up in the Iran-Conta affair, but somehow the blame got shifted to Bill Clinton.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 5, 2017 • 3:19:22pm

re: #156 garzooma

I was wondering about this myself. For one thing, Mueller been running a famously tight ship. So how did news of the subpoena get out? For another, the media has recently been fooled by reports of the imminent ouster of Tillerson (note: he isn’t gone). So while it’s plausible that the records have been subpoenaed, and almost certain that they will be eventually, the current reports need to be confirmed.

Is it possible that, if true, it was leaked by a source at the Bank? The WH wouldn’t have been notified if it did happen, would they?

159
Stanley Sea  Dec 5, 2017 • 3:19:28pm

re: #156 garzooma

I was wondering about this myself. For one thing, Mueller been running a famously tight ship. So how did news of the subpoena get out? For another, the media has recently been fooled by reports of the imminent ouster of Tillerson (note: he isn’t gone). So while it’s plausible that the records have been subpoenaed, and almost certain that they will be eventually, the current reports need to be confirmed.

???

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Stanley Sea  Dec 5, 2017 • 3:21:23pm
161
calochortus  Dec 5, 2017 • 3:21:33pm

re: #156 garzooma

I was wondering about this myself. For one thing, Mueller been running a famously tight ship. So how did news of the subpoena get out? For another, the media has recently been fooled by reports of the imminent ouster of Tillerson (note: he isn’t gone). So while it’s plausible that the records have been subpoenaed, and almost certain that they will be eventually, the current reports need to be confirmed.

Generally, I don’t believe anything coming out of the White House. I check the color of the sky if they declared it to be blue. On the other hand, Mueller tends not to tip his hand-at least not without a good reason.
I’m OK with waiting, even if I’m eager for the fall of the House of Trump.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 5, 2017 • 3:24:18pm

Was the WSJ one of the confirmations before?

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makeitstop  Dec 5, 2017 • 3:26:35pm

re: #159 Stanley Sea

???

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I think you’re right. Sekulow is smoke-screening

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jaunte  Dec 5, 2017 • 3:35:22pm
165
goddamnedfrank  Dec 5, 2017 • 3:36:38pm

re: #156 garzooma

I was wondering about this myself. For one thing, Mueller been running a famously tight ship. So how did news of the subpoena get out? For another, the media has recently been fooled by reports of the imminent ouster of Tillerson (note: he isn’t gone). So while it’s plausible that the records have been subpoenaed, and almost certain that they will be eventually, the current reports need to be confirmed.

The leak doesn’t have to come from Mueller’s team. Deutsch Bank is a large organization and has a vested interest in assuring its clients that it resists cooperating with law enforcement and requires court subpoenas before complying. So they could’ve leaked it hoping they’d obfuscated the trail enough to avoid any sanction by the Court.

Alternatively Nunes might have gotten word and leaked it hoping to derail the investigation.

Or Mueller might have let this out to rattle Trump’s tree and see what else falls out.

I doubt that Mueller would’ve bothered to go for these records at this juncture unless he had, at the very least, strong reasons to believe they would give lie to Trump’s claims that he has no ties to Russia.

This is probably why Trump is acting more and more belligerent towards the FBI, he’s starting to look like a wild animal caught in a snare.


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Feds Target Butina’s GOP Boyfriend as Foreign Agent Paul Erickson, a longtime Republican politico whose Russian girlfriend is in jail on charges she acted as a covert foreign agent, has been informed that he may face similar accusations. The Daily Beast reviewed a so-called “target letter” that ...
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Police: Charge Benjamin and Sara Netanyahu With Bribery in Telecom Case - Israel News - Haaretz.com The police and Israel Securities Authority on Sunday recommended indicting Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyau and his wife, Sara, as well as media mogul Shaul Elovitch and his wife, Iris, for bribery and other corruption charges in the investigation dubbed ...
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