MSNBC Admits They Were Hoaxed by Nasty Right Wing Troll Mike Cernovich, Reverses Decision to Fire Contributor Sam Seder

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When MSNBC fired contributor Sam Seder after a bad faith smear campaign by far right racist, rape-promoting troll Mike Cernovich, they faced a huge amount of criticism from viewers, other media outlets, and generally everyone who thinks truth and context should actually matter in this world.

And today they did the right thing and took back this decision, re-hiring Seder.

Chalk one up for the side of decency.

MSNBC has reversed its decision to terminate Sam Seder, a podcast host and contributor to the network, after a right-wing campaign targeted him for a satirical tweet criticizing supporters of accused rapist Roman Polanski.

“Sometimes you just get one wrong,” MSNBC president Phil Griffin told the Intercept in a statement. “That’s what happened here.”

Griffin said the network initially fired Seder “for the right reasons — because we don’t consider rape to be a funny topic to be joked about.”

“But we’ve heard the feedback, and we understand the point Sam was trying to make in that tweet was actually in line with our values, even though the language was not,” Griffin said. “Sam will be welcome on our air going forward.”

Cernovich has claimed he has a list of 100 journalists on whom he’s “paying” people to dig up dirt, so this is probably not the last we’ll hear from this horrible human being.

UPDATE at 12/7/17 10:21:42 am by Charles Johnson

Cernovich is pitching a royal fit on Twitter about MSNBC’s decision.

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electrotek  Dec 7, 2017 • 10:16:36am

The damage is still done. It made MSNBC look even more stupid by taking the word of a psychopathic rape apologist like Cernovich.

Should be a lesson learned for the executives.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 7, 2017 • 10:18:50am

Distressing that they fell for it in the first place.

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nines09  Dec 7, 2017 • 10:19:00am

Almost makes you think they don’t even know who these people are and what they do, doesn’t it?

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Targetpractice  Dec 7, 2017 • 10:19:44am

No doubt the media will learn from this episode and refrain from rushing to judgment on such allegations in the future.

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Belafon  Dec 7, 2017 • 10:20:39am

re: #1 electrotek

The damage is still done. It made MSNBC look even more stupid by taking the word of a psychopathic rape apologist like Cernovich.

Should be a lesson learned for the executives.

They rehired him, and haven’t fired Reid. Maybe they can learn.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 7, 2017 • 10:22:00am

Cernovich is freaking out, as predicted.

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Belafon  Dec 7, 2017 • 10:22:36am

re: #6 Charles Johnson

Cernovich is freaking out, as predicted.

His plan’s falling apart.

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electrotek  Dec 7, 2017 • 10:23:16am

re: #7 Belafon

His plan’s falling apart.

Life finds a way.

Ian Malcolm is a genius.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 7, 2017 • 10:24:35am

re: #6 Charles Johnson

Cernovich is freaking out, as predicted.

Good. Fuck him.

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MsJ  Dec 7, 2017 • 10:26:58am

re: #6 Charles Johnson

Cernovich is freaking out, as predicted.

Good.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 7, 2017 • 10:27:05am

re: #6 Charles Johnson

Cernovich is freaking out, as predicted.

Awww poor baby snowflake!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 7, 2017 • 10:29:17am
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Belafon  Dec 7, 2017 • 10:30:05am

re: #12 Backwoods_Sleuth

Publicly, as well. We know their names.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 7, 2017 • 10:30:41am

re: #12 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 7, 2017 • 10:30:42am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 7, 2017 • 10:31:14am

re: #13 Belafon

Publicly, as well. We know their names.

Yep.

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electrotek  Dec 7, 2017 • 10:31:34am

re: #15 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 7, 2017 • 10:31:42am
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scottslemmons  Dec 7, 2017 • 10:32:48am

Ya know, at some point, Cernovich is going to find himself in front of an angry, armed crowd of actual no-foolin’ not-doing-this-for-the-memes Nazis, helplessly yelling “But what about the memes?”

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Belafon  Dec 7, 2017 • 10:32:55am

Trump is pro-Israel in the same way I am pro-cow, and the brisket I just had wasn’t that bad.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 7, 2017 • 10:33:51am

And here we have Exhibit #209790 on Why Republicans Will Keep Winning Elections For Years To Come

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The Major  Dec 7, 2017 • 10:34:40am

re: #6 Charles Johnson

So MSNBC gored his ox, and now he’s crying like a WATB…

Sucks to be you, Mike…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 7, 2017 • 10:35:46am
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Kragar  Dec 7, 2017 • 10:36:31am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 7, 2017 • 10:37:18am
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Sir John Barron  Dec 7, 2017 • 10:38:42am

re: #24 Kragar

Nobody cares about your shitty opinions, Mike. Go blow.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 7, 2017 • 10:38:48am

re: #24 Kragar

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Look at your own past, Shitface.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 7, 2017 • 10:39:16am

re: #23 Backwoods_Sleuth

20 sounds low. GOP controls more than 20 I think.

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Targetpractice  Dec 7, 2017 • 10:39:42am

re: #12 Backwoods_Sleuth

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But the rule after today is “If you don’t take responsibility, you don’t have to resign.” Just deny as much as possible while attacking your victims and you’ll still win elections. But (of course) that rule only applies to Republicans. If you’re a Democrat, from the first allegation, your career is toast.

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mmmirele  Dec 7, 2017 • 10:40:58am

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darthstar  Dec 7, 2017 • 10:41:05am

So if Trump’s BFF isn’t allowed to go to the Olympics we’re going to make excuses to show solidarity?

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Charles Johnson  Dec 7, 2017 • 10:41:53am
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Dave In Austin  Dec 7, 2017 • 10:42:10am
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Dave In Austin  Dec 7, 2017 • 10:43:00am

Oh!!! Sarah is telling a Xmas Story!! How delightful.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 7, 2017 • 10:43:31am
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Targetpractice  Dec 7, 2017 • 10:44:05am

re: #21 The Vicious Babushka

And here we have Exhibit #209790 on Why Republicans Will Keep Winning Elections For Years To Come

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Hey now, we’ve been assured by concern trolls that this will all work in the DNC’s favor because voters will respond to the DNC taking the “moral high ground.” There’s absolutely no way that the GOP could sabotage that by hanging Conyers and Franken around our necks next year even though both have resigned.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 7, 2017 • 10:44:33am

re: #31 darthstar

So if Trump’s BFF isn’t allowed to go to the Olympics we’re going to make excuses to show solidarity?

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Really?!?? JFC

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 7, 2017 • 10:45:05am

re: #36 Targetpractice

Hey now, we’ve been assured by concern trolls that this will all work in the DNC’s favor because voters will respond to the DNC taking the “moral high ground.” There’s absolutely no way that the GOP could sabotage that by hanging Conyers and Franken around our necks next year even though both have resigned.

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AND we’ve been assured that independent women will flock to polls to vote for Democrats now….

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Sir John Barron  Dec 7, 2017 • 10:45:43am

re: #38 Backwoods_Sleuth

AND we’ve been assured that independent women will flock to polls to vote for Democrats now….

As they did when the GOP nominated Trumpster.

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Targetpractice  Dec 7, 2017 • 10:45:56am

re: #31 darthstar

So if Trump’s BFF isn’t allowed to go to the Olympics we’re going to make excuses to show solidarity?

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Charles Johnson  Dec 7, 2017 • 10:46:36am

If Al Franken did all the things he’s being accused of, resigning is the right thing to do. But it’s not right to force him out without due process. Democrats are going to regret doing this - they’re setting a very bad precedent that will be used against them.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 7, 2017 • 10:47:51am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 7, 2017 • 10:48:34am

re: #40 Targetpractice

Amazing how this “concern” for US athletes only started getting aired publicly immediately after Russia was banned from the games…

It’s so frustrating how obvious he is a Russian stooge but America first.//

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 7, 2017 • 10:48:43am

LOL

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makeitstop  Dec 7, 2017 • 10:48:44am

re: #19 scottslemmons

Ya know, at some point, Cernovich is going to find himself in front of an angry, armed crowd of actual no-foolin’ not-doing-this-for-the-memes Nazis, helplessly yelling “But what about the memes?”

Or a group of pissed-off liberals who know who the fuck he is.

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Targetpractice  Dec 7, 2017 • 10:49:17am

re: #41 Charles Johnson

If Al Franken did all the things he’s being accused of, resigning is the right thing to do. But it’s not right to force him out without due process. Democrats are going to regret doing this - they’re setting a very bad precedent that will be used against them.

I’m sure James O’Keefe is thrilled by today’s news. Here he was, working so hard to discredit the WaPo when his future lies in paying women to make “anonymous” allegations against Democrats in the future. I mean, it’s not like the DNC is going to risk actually investigating those allegations, lest they be tarred as defending “sexual predators.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 7, 2017 • 10:50:36am

meanwhile in Buffalo NY:

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Sir John Barron  Dec 7, 2017 • 10:52:33am

re: #41 Charles Johnson

If Al Franken did all the things he’s being accused of, resigning is the right thing to do. But it’s not right to force him out without due process. Democrats are going to regret doing this - they’re setting a very bad precedent that will be used against them.

This sums up my thoughts precisely.

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ipsos  Dec 7, 2017 • 10:53:24am

re: #47 Backwoods_Sleuth

meanwhile in Buffalo NY:

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And it’s still just grass and leaves on the ground an hour to the east here at casa ipsos - we had a few flurries last night, but nothing stuck.

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Ace-o-aces  Dec 7, 2017 • 10:54:15am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 7, 2017 • 10:55:00am

re: #50 Ace-o-aces

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This guy.

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Ace-o-aces  Dec 7, 2017 • 10:57:50am

re: #32 Charles Johnson

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It’s like seeing inside his head!

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Targetpractice  Dec 7, 2017 • 10:59:41am

At the moment, I can’t help but consider how ridiculous all this will look in a week’s time, when Senator-elect Moore is reveling in his win as the wingnuts celebrate their victory over the “smear campaign” against him. We’re going to find ourselves in the same spot we were before last month: Mumbling that at least we pared down Moore’s margin of victory from double digits to single digits.

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Kragar  Dec 7, 2017 • 10:59:44am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 7, 2017 • 11:00:27am
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ipsos  Dec 7, 2017 • 11:00:35am

re: #54 Kragar

Since when does the White House make that decision? Isn’t it the USOC’s decision?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 7, 2017 • 11:01:36am
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Kragar  Dec 7, 2017 • 11:02:53am

re: #56 ipsos

Since when does the White House make that decision? Isn’t it the USOC’s decision?

They could have the State Dept restrict travel based on “safety” concerns

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 7, 2017 • 11:03:16am

re: #41 Charles Johnson

If Al Franken did all the things he’s being accused of, resigning is the right thing to do. But it’s not right to force him out without due process. Democrats are going to regret doing this - they’re setting a very bad precedent that will be used against them.

I don’t have a strong opinion either way, but do think he demonstrated some appalling judgement and started to become a real liability. I can see what you’re afraid of but also don’t really see how giving him the due process of an ethics investigation would’ve changed a whole lot either in the way of understanding his particular situation or in averting whatever future rat-fucking the accusations might inspire. That cat’s already out of the bag.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 7, 2017 • 11:04:12am

re: #57 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 7, 2017 • 11:05:43am
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Ace-o-aces  Dec 7, 2017 • 11:07:42am

re: #53 Targetpractice

At the moment, I can’t help but consider how ridiculous all this will look in a week’s time, when Senator-elect Moore is reveling in his win as the wingnuts celebrate their victory over the “smear campaign” against him. We’re going to find ourselves in the same spot we were before last month: Mumbling that at least we pared down Moore’s margin of victory from double digits to single digits.

I don’t know. I see the Moore situation as a win-win for Democrats. If he looses, Trump and Bannon look weak. If he wins, I expect EVERY Democrat in the 2018 elections to link their opponent to Moore. Moore is disliked everywhere outside of Alabama and the GOP will be known as the party of pedophilia.

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Kilroy was here  Dec 7, 2017 • 11:08:09am

Tweeter Gold…

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jaunte  Dec 7, 2017 • 11:08:31am
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goddamnedfrank  Dec 7, 2017 • 11:08:52am

re: #58 Kragar

They could have the State Dept restrict travel based on “safety” concerns

I’m trying to imagine how bad that would look.

When it comes to history, I have my own history here, which goes back to when I arrived here as a young woman of about 21 in 1975 to be a Peace Corps volunteer. At that time, of course, the memories of the Korean War were still fresh, many people talked to me about it. One of the first phrases I learned in Korean , I heard in Korean, when people talked about the US-Korea relationship, was 혈맹관계, “the relationship forged in blood.” I remember how moved I was by that, by the passion which people used in talking about it. Our relationship, as you all well know, goes further back even than that. One of the many great privileges of being here as the U.S. Ambassador is to live in central Seoul, which in 1884, was the very first piece of land sold to a diplomatic mission by the Korean king, by the then-Korean government. As I drive around town, I drive in a car with a license plate that we can all appreciate, starting with “01.” The United States was the first country to establish diplomatic relations with the Republic of Korea, giving us the privilege of having the “01” on the license plate. Every day, those are reminders to me, of what a special relationship we have in the modern development of Korea.

-U.S. Ambassador to Korea Kathleen Stephens, 2009

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William Lewis  Dec 7, 2017 • 11:09:11am

re: #41 Charles Johnson

If Al Franken did all the things he’s being accused of, resigning is the right thing to do. But it’s not right to force him out without due process. Democrats are going to regret doing this - they’re setting a very bad precedent that will be used against them.

But the Puritopians are ecstatic about our “MORAL HIGH-GROUND” that will lose us elections for years to come.

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Scottish Dragon  Dec 7, 2017 • 11:09:35am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 7, 2017 • 11:09:46am

re: #64 jaunte

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William Lewis  Dec 7, 2017 • 11:12:03am

re: #67 Scottish Dragon

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Targetpractice  Dec 7, 2017 • 11:12:10am

re: #62 Ace-o-aces

I don’t know. I see the Moore situation as a win-win for Democrats. If he looses, Trump and Bannon look weak. If he wins, I expect EVERY Democrat in the 2018 elections to link their opponent to Moore. Moore is disliked everywhere outside of Alabama and the GOP will be known as the party of pedophilia.

Just as linking Republicans to Trump was going to win us various special elections this year? In a year’s time, most voters won’t give a damn about Roy Moore or will need a refresher course in why being associated with him is a bad thing. There’s so much bad shit waiting down the pipeline that Moore will be a footnote come next November. Meanwhile, we’ll be defending yet another seat that we could very well lose (ex: Scott Brown winning the “Kennedy seat”).

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jaunte  Dec 7, 2017 • 11:12:46am
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Ace-o-aces  Dec 7, 2017 • 11:13:40am
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meteor  Dec 7, 2017 • 11:14:11am

I feel so sorry for Al Franken’s wife.

Also, Paul Ryan eats people.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 7, 2017 • 11:14:25am

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 7, 2017 • 11:14:48am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Dec 7, 2017 • 11:16:05am

re: #64 jaunte

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 7, 2017 • 11:18:30am

I’m getting a bunch of Trumporrhoid trollbots in my mentions claiming that Al Franken (and of course BILL CLINTON!!!!!) are Teh Guilties but Trump & Moore are innocent as the wind drifted snow because all those wimmens are Teh Lyin Hussies!!!!!

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 7, 2017 • 11:19:48am
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Kragar  Dec 7, 2017 • 11:21:37am
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Stanley Sea  Dec 7, 2017 • 11:21:56am

Sooooooooo, the yam is going to Water Reed for a check up.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 7, 2017 • 11:22:15am
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Targetpractice  Dec 7, 2017 • 11:22:49am

re: #79 The Vicious Babushka

I’m getting a bunch of Trumporrhoid trollbots in my mentions claiming that Al Franken (and of course BILL CLINTON!!!!!) are Teh Guilties but Trump & Moore are innocent as the wind drifted snow because all those wimmens are Teh Lyin Hussies!!!!!

Speaking of Bill, there’s a good example of how holding off on taking the “moral high ground” can work in the DNC’s favor. By the time Starr released his final report, most of the accusers had either been discredited or their allegations found wanting, such that Ken couldn’t bring a single charge beyond lying about a blowjob. One accuser refused to testify under oath and another flirted with being charged with perjury for changing her story repeatedly. He ended up leaving office with one of the highest approval ratings among modern presidents.

But you know, that was back when Democrats had something resembling spines…

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Scottish Dragon  Dec 7, 2017 • 11:22:56am
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Kragar  Dec 7, 2017 • 11:22:58am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 7, 2017 • 11:24:47am

re: #86 Kragar

Donald Trump just referred to the attack on Pearl Harbor as a “pretty wild scene.”

were there “good people on both sides”?

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BlueSpotinAL  Dec 7, 2017 • 11:24:53am

re: #13 Belafon

Publicly, as well. We know their names.

My wife actually knows one of the Moore accusers.

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jaunte  Dec 7, 2017 • 11:25:29am
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A slob that will live in infamy.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 7, 2017 • 11:26:02am

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jaunte  Dec 7, 2017 • 11:26:42am

Trump can make anything about himself, including Pearl Harbor.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 7, 2017 • 11:26:57am

re: #86 Kragar

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jaunte  Dec 7, 2017 • 11:28:36am
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electrotek  Dec 7, 2017 • 11:28:43am

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A slob that will live in infamy.

I’d rather be in Pearl Harbor on that day than to be subjected to torture for the next 7 years under him.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 7, 2017 • 11:31:30am

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A slob that will live in infamy.

It’s always about him.

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 7, 2017 • 11:36:39am

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Sir John Barron  Dec 7, 2017 • 11:44:15am

re: #89 jaunte

A slob that will live in infamy.

Most exciting in the world to these veterans, I’m sure, to know they can go hang out with Trumpster at the WH for another 7 years.
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ObserverArt  Dec 7, 2017 • 11:47:20am

re: #23 Backwoods_Sleuth

Paul Ryan
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@SpeakerRyan
More than 20 governors from states across the country just expressed support for the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act. spkrryan.us
9:41 AM - Dec 7, 2017 * Washington, DC

Interesting. No Johnny Kasich.

Being the big budget wonk he was in Congress, I wonder what his thoughts are.

I still think he is building up to a run for President in 2020.

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makeitstop  Dec 7, 2017 • 12:03:03pm

re: #82 Stanley Sea

Sooooooooo, the yam is going to Water Reed for a check up.

Do tell…wonder if we’ll hear the results.

Maybe someone at Reed is in a leaking mood. One can only hope.


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Once Praised, the Settlement to Help Sickened BP Oil Spill Workers Leaves Most With Nearly Nothing When a deadly explosion destroyed BP’s Deepwater Horizon drilling rig in the Gulf of Mexico, 134 million gallons of crude erupted into the sea over the next three months — and tens of thousands of ordinary people were hired ...
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Texas County at Center of Border Fight Is Overwhelmed by Migrant Deaths EAGLE PASS, Tex. - The undertaker lighted a cigarette and held it between his latex-gloved fingers as he stood over the bloated body bag lying in the bed of his battered pickup truck. The woman had been fished out ...
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