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I Would Prefer Not To  Dec 9, 2017 • 12:53:03pm
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The Major  Dec 9, 2017 • 12:53:48pm

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 9, 2017 • 12:54:56pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 9, 2017 • 12:58:24pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2017 • 12:58:51pm

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She’s correct. My brother lives in Nevada. He actually supported Bernie last year but he finds caucuses undemocratic. Honestly, I’d be fine with doing away with the Super-delegates if all caucuses are eliminated and replaced with primaries. I’ll even budge on the closed/open primary issue though I think it should be up to the state but caucuses need to go for the reasons why Ana described much better than I could.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2017 • 12:59:08pm

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The Major  Dec 9, 2017 • 12:59:15pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2017 • 1:01:01pm

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Because they know that caucuses favored them. IMO you don’t get to complain about the SDs while insisting that the caucuses remain especially given that the SDs don’t count until much later. I know AM likes Jane but agh anyone who defends low turnout, I have a problem with her even if I do have an unique connection with Jane that I don’t feel like sharing publicly.

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The Major  Dec 9, 2017 • 1:02:35pm

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Dec 9, 2017 • 1:08:07pm

re: #4 Backwoods_Sleuth

My echo responded to Jones when I played that video, so the responses were in stereo.
Now amazon thinks I’m a paranoid schizophrenic.

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stpaulbear  Dec 9, 2017 • 1:09:55pm

re: #1 I Would Prefer Not To

Al Franken- I sincerely apologize.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 9, 2017 • 1:10:30pm

re: #9 HappyWarrior

Because they know that caucuses favored them. IMO you don’t get to complain about the SDs while insisting that the caucuses remain especially given that the SDs don’t count until much later. I know AM likes Jane but agh anyone who defends low turnout, I have a problem with her even if I do have an unique connection with Jane that I don’t feel like sharing publicly.

I’m not aware of this development (Jane Kleeb arguing in favour of low turnout for the caucuses).

I can’t seem to find anything in a search engine about it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 9, 2017 • 1:10:42pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2017 • 1:12:44pm

re: #13 Anymouse 🌹

I’m not aware of this development (Jane Kleeb arguing in favour of low turnout for the caucuses).

I can’t seem to find anything in a search engine about it.

See above in Twitter. Anyhow, I really don’t like caucuses at all. I find them very undemocratic for the reasons mentioned above in the Tweetstream by Ana Mardoll.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 9, 2017 • 1:13:32pm

re: #13 Anymouse 🌹

I’m not aware of this development (Jane Kleeb arguing in favour of low turnout for the caucuses).

I can’t seem to find anything in a search engine about it.

It’s an event being live tweeted by several people in attendance.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2017 • 1:13:36pm

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If he wants to be taken seriously, he shouldn’t act the way he fucking does. In short, start acting like a grown ass adult, Donnie.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 9, 2017 • 1:16:09pm

re: #16 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s an event being live tweeted by several people in attendance.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 9, 2017 • 1:18:57pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 9, 2017 • 1:20:50pm

re: #15 HappyWarrior

See above in Twitter. Anyhow, I really don’t like caucuses at all. I find them very undemocratic for the reasons mentioned above in the Tweetstream by Ana Mardoll.

I’m not a big fan of caucuses either (last year was the first time I ever lived in a place that used them).

The caucus here was not “undemocratic” as claimed though: anyone in the Democratic Party could request an absentee ballot from the party, and those were sent in to each county caucus site.

In our county, when it came time to count votes, the absentee ballots were opened and those votes counted.

People who were housebound, or at work, or otherwise couldn’t attend were afforded the opportunity to vote.

I can’t say how that went for caucuses in other states, but here every single person registered as a Democrat got an absentee ballot card in the mail a few months before the caucus.

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meteor  Dec 9, 2017 • 1:21:50pm

re: #19 Backwoods_Sleuth

Lmao

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 9, 2017 • 1:25:20pm

I’m off for a nap, and laughing about this tweet:

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HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2017 • 1:25:47pm

re: #20 Anymouse 🌹

I’m not a big fan of caucuses either (last year was the first time I ever lived in a place that used them).

The caucus here was not “undemocratic” as claimed though: anyone in the Democratic Party could request an absentee ballot from the party, and those were sent in to each county caucus site.

In our county, when it came time to count votes, the absentee ballots were opened and those votes counted.

People who were housebound, or at work, or otherwise couldn’t attend were afforded the opportunity to vote.

I can’t say how that went for caucuses in other states, but here every single person registered as a Democrat got an absentee ballot card in the mail a few months before the caucus.

Where in specific do you disagree with Ana? I admit I’ve never been in a caucus but the impression I get is the loudest voices are favored.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 9, 2017 • 1:27:47pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 9, 2017 • 1:29:53pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 9, 2017 • 1:31:19pm

re: #23 HappyWarrior

Where in specific do you disagree with Ana? I admit I’ve never been in a caucus but the impression I get is the loudest voices are favored.

I disagree they were undemocratic. (As I noted, every person registered as a Democrat in my state got a card to request an absentee ballot. All those ballots were counted, even though they were silent. You could even come to the caucus, fill in a ballot right then, and leave and it would be counted—a couple people here did that as well.)

As for “the loudest persons being heard,” all politics is like that. If by “loudest” she means “shoutiest,” that would mean the meeting was run poorly.

That would be something if every candidate simply filled out a questionnaire, didn’t campaign at all, and everyone voted.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 9, 2017 • 1:33:00pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2017 • 1:33:17pm

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HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2017 • 1:34:51pm

re: #26 Anymouse 🌹

I disagree they were undemocratic. (As I noted, every person registered as a Democrat in my state got a card to request an absentee ballot. All those ballots were counted, even though they were silent. You could even come to the caucus, fill in a ballot right then, and leave and it would be counted—a couple people here did that as well.)

As for “the loudest persons being heard,” all politics is like that. If by “loudest” she means “shoutiest,” that would mean the meeting was run poorly.

That would be something if every candidate simply filled out a questionnaire, didn’t campaign at all, and everyone voted.

Fair enough. I disagree though that all politics is like that though. I really think voting should be private and between one’s self one well one’s self.

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 9, 2017 • 1:37:35pm

So, we should assume it’s closer to 12 hrs a day

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 9, 2017 • 1:37:52pm

re: #23 HappyWarrior

Where in specific do you disagree with Ana? I admit I’ve never been in a caucus but the impression I get is the loudest voices are favored.

I’ve attended caucuses in Illinois and they are ridiculous.
You get locked in a room and people do indeed shout, bully, and there is nothing remotely resembling a secret ballot.
And there was no option for mail in ballots.

That’s one of the reasons I was so upset that the GOP in Kentucky bowed to Rand Paul for a caucus rather than a primary when he was running for president and senate at the same time. I refused to participate because I also believe they are extremely undemocratic.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 9, 2017 • 1:40:16pm
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makeitstop  Dec 9, 2017 • 1:40:32pm

That guy just keeps wringing more sounds out of an acoustic guitar. Amazing.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2017 • 1:42:34pm

re: #31 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’ve attended caucuses in Illinois and they are ridiculous.
You get locked in a room and people do indeed shout, bully, and there is nothing remotely resembling a secret ballot.
And there was no option for mail in ballots.

That’s one of the reasons I was so upset that the GOP in Kentucky bowed to Rand Paul for a caucus rather than a primary when he was running for president and senate at the same time. I refused to participate because I also believe they are extremely undemocratic.

Thanks. Have to agree with you too based on what I’ve heard.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 9, 2017 • 1:42:52pm
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FormerDirtDart  Dec 9, 2017 • 1:43:20pm

Man, he’s so damn fragile and petty

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TedStriker  Dec 9, 2017 • 1:44:50pm

re: #36 FormerDirtDart

Man, he’s so damn fragile and petty

I hope she told him to get fucked, but I doubt it.

It’s Trump’s party now.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2017 • 1:46:09pm

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Man, he’s so damn fragile and petty

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HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2017 • 1:46:48pm

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Yep that’s not a coincidence by supporters of a campaign who got their ass licked by minority voters.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2017 • 1:47:11pm

Kicked not licked.

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sagehen  Dec 9, 2017 • 1:49:58pm

re: #26 Anymouse 🌹

As for “the loudest persons being heard,” all politics is like that. If by “loudest” she means “shoutiest,” that would mean the meeting was run poorly.

That would be something if every candidate simply filled out a questionnaire, didn’t campaign at all, and everyone voted.

Is it a secret ballot, or “candidate A supporters go stand under their banner, candidate B supporters under the banner on the other side of the gym, candidate C in that corner…”

Lots of people will see their bosses, co-workers, parents, siblings, significant others, the bully from 4th grade who they won’t even get a drink at the bar if he’s there… it can be difficult to make a very public stand for a different candidate than these people you have to see every day and would rather not fight with.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 9, 2017 • 1:51:23pm

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SO MUCH ^^^THIS^^^

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allegro  Dec 9, 2017 • 1:51:49pm

re: #32 Backwoods_Sleuth

I don’t disagree with his sentiment. However, presenting marijuana use as an acceptable thing that results in its legalization nationally - and I believe it will - will prevent more young black lives from being ruined by incarceration from its use. We can’t change the past. We can influence the present and future.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2017 • 1:52:31pm

re: #42 sagehen

Is it a secret ballot, or “candidate A supporters go stand under their banner, candidate B supporters under the banner on the other side of the gym, candidate C in that corner…”

Lots of people will see their bosses, co-workers, parents, siblings, significant others, the bully from 4th grade who they won’t even get a drink at the bar if he’s there… it can be difficult to make a very public stand for a different candidate than these people you have to see every day and would rather not fight with.

Well said.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 9, 2017 • 1:55:43pm

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Man, he’s so damn fragile and petty

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I Would Prefer Not To  Dec 9, 2017 • 1:56:48pm

The caucuses are bad because they don’t prepare your candidate for the national election. We don’t choose the Olympic basketball team by holding a boxing match. If we want to win at the ballot box in November we need to practice at the polls. The primaries must be about issues and getting out the vote.

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makeitstop  Dec 9, 2017 • 2:00:50pm

re: #37 TedStriker

I hope she told him to get fucked, but I doubt it.

It’s Trump’s party now.

She dropped the maiden name.

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 9, 2017 • 2:04:51pm

Winner of the Army-Navy Game will earn the Commander-in-Chief’s Trophy for this year.
Guess who isn’t in attendance.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 9, 2017 • 2:07:08pm

re: #49 FormerDirtDart

Winner of the Army-Navy Game will earn the Commander-in-Chief’s Trophy for this year.
Guess who isn’t in attendance.

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but he’s watching (if it’s on the teevee…)

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 9, 2017 • 2:07:20pm

No, Tom. Trump isn’t the same kind of Bad as You…

Tom Waits - “Bad As Me”

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TedStriker  Dec 9, 2017 • 2:07:21pm

re: #48 makeitstop

She dropped the maiden name.

Of course she did.

It must make her daddy proud.

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 9, 2017 • 2:13:25pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 9, 2017 • 2:13:53pm

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HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2017 • 2:14:41pm

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Pair of losers.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 9, 2017 • 2:16:20pm

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I hope someone corrected her to say it was Chuck not Charles.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 9, 2017 • 2:17:18pm

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It’s Ass Vs. Hole…

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TedStriker  Dec 9, 2017 • 2:20:38pm

re: #55 HappyWarrior

Pair of losers.

re: #57 Joe Bacon 🌹

It’s Ass Vs. Hole…

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 9, 2017 • 2:24:28pm
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FormerDirtDart  Dec 9, 2017 • 2:25:12pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2017 • 2:26:03pm

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So Ivanka your thoughts?

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 9, 2017 • 2:27:07pm

It’s a slow day at The Hill

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dangerman  Dec 9, 2017 • 2:28:24pm

re: #36 FormerDirtDart

Man, he’s so damn fragile and petty

Trump asked RNC chair to stop using “Romney” in her name: report hill.cm

1. he would / could never have asked a man to do such a thing

2. she agreed to do it
i assume if she said no she wouldnt have gotten the post.
is there a name for this? hmmm

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dangerman  Dec 9, 2017 • 2:32:57pm

re: #42 sagehen

Is it a secret ballot, or “candidate A supporters go stand under their banner, candidate B supporters under the banner on the other side of the gym, candidate C in that corner…”

Lots of people will see their bosses, co-workers, parents, siblings, significant others, the bully from 4th grade who they won’t even get a drink at the bar if he’s there… it can be difficult to make a very public stand for a different candidate than these people you have to see every day and would rather not fight with.

caucusing is not for the largely unengaged general public as they are mostly political amateurs,

there is a lot more to understand than “who i want to vote for in each race”

caucusing is for semi-pros and intimidates the “uninitiated”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 9, 2017 • 2:33:55pm
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Stanley Sea  Dec 9, 2017 • 2:35:59pm
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TedStriker  Dec 9, 2017 • 2:37:34pm

re: #65 Backwoods_Sleuth

Surprise, surprise.

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dangerman  Dec 9, 2017 • 2:38:23pm

re: #65 Backwoods_Sleuth

GOP Gov Rick Snyder of Michigan says the special election to replace Democratic Rep. John Conyers won’t take place for 11 MONTHS

Pé Resists
@4everNeverTrump
A minority-majority district that went to Hillary Clinton by a 61% margin won’t have a House representative for nearly a full year.

This is criminal.

and 99 44/100% predictable

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Targetpractice  Dec 9, 2017 • 2:39:07pm

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William Lewis  Dec 9, 2017 • 2:39:24pm

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Once again the Purity Ponies ratfuck the Democratic Party…

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 9, 2017 • 2:47:22pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 9, 2017 • 2:48:47pm

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Man, he’s so damn fragile and petty

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I bet Trump is afraid Romney will run against him in the 2020 primaries.

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ObserverArt  Dec 9, 2017 • 2:51:50pm

re: #74 Big Beautiful Door

I bet Trump is afraid Romney will run against him in the 2020 primaries.

At this point it appears Trump is afraid of just about everyone, up to and including his shadow. And for good reason.

If he somehow escapes getting booted out in his first term, I’m hoping he will be driven depressed and mad enough he would never be considered for a second.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2017 • 2:56:42pm

re: #75 Backwoods_Sleuth

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ObserverArt  Dec 9, 2017 • 2:57:28pm

Columbus got a decent little covering of snow. Probably an inch out there. Looks to be winding down.

I imagine it is panic in the streets too. Even though people here should have some experience driving in it, it takes them a few weeks to get adjusted.

That it is a Saturday holiday shopping day, no way I would want to deal with the major streets around any of the bigger shopping areas.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 9, 2017 • 3:00:47pm

re: #80 ObserverArt

Columbus got a decent little covering of snow. Probably an inch out there. Looks to be winding down.

I imagine it is panic in the streets too. Even though people here should have some experience driving in it, it takes them a few weeks to get adjusted.

That it is a Saturday holiday shopping day, no way I would want to deal with the major streets around any of the bigger shopping areas.

got a nice snow cover here, too.
Just saw that I-275 is shut down in both directions for a goodly stretch at the stateline due to ice. Yuck.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 9, 2017 • 3:01:13pm

re: #80 ObserverArt

Meanwhile it’s 83 here in Los Angeles with 2% humidity…

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austin_blue  Dec 9, 2017 • 3:02:21pm

re: #81 Backwoods_Sleuth

got a nice snow cover here, too.
Just saw that I-275 is shut down in both directions for a goodly stretch at the stateline due to ice. Yuck.

We got around an inch on cars and the grass during BLIZZARD 2017!!!

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Cheechako  Dec 9, 2017 • 3:03:26pm

re: #82 Joe Bacon 🌹

Here in SE Alaska it’s about 50* and raining (as usual). Had 1.14” of rain yesterday.

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 9, 2017 • 3:07:49pm

re: #70 William Lewis

Once again the Purity Ponies ratfuck the Democratic Party…

Right, we really need Democrats in Congress who imply an intern who refuses to have sex with him could end up like Chondra Levy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 9, 2017 • 3:09:53pm

re: #85 Big Beautiful Door

Right, we really need Democrats in Congress who imply an intern who refuses to have sex with him could end up like Chondra Levy.

what part of the fact that the seat will remain vacant for a year did you miss? There was nothing there about letting Conyers stay.

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 9, 2017 • 3:09:58pm

re: #76 ObserverArt

At this point it appears Trump is afraid of just about everyone, up to and including his shadow. And for good reason.

If he somehow escapes getting booted out in his first term, I’m hoping he will be driven depressed and mad enough he would never be considered for a second.

From your mouth to God’s ear.

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 9, 2017 • 3:10:12pm
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William Lewis  Dec 9, 2017 • 3:10:37pm

re: #85 Big Beautiful Door

Right, we really need Democrats in Congress who imply an intern who refuses to have sex with him could end up like Chondra Levy.

So they’re left without ANY representation for 11 months to satisfy the puritopians? That’s so much better? SMDH. Time to do do something else before I really get pissed off at that ignorance.

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darthstar  Dec 9, 2017 • 3:11:13pm

Drive by post, but I just saw a pic of Jared and Ivanka, and my wife’s right…they could be twins. I wouldn’t be surprised if Donald moans “Jared” when he’s with Melania…that is, if he ever is/was.

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 9, 2017 • 3:11:31pm

Navy missed winning field goal as time ran out

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 9, 2017 • 3:13:35pm

re: #86 Backwoods_Sleuth

what part of the fact that the seat will remain vacant for a year did you miss? There was nothing there about letting Conyers stay.

Then what did the “purity pony” crack mean, other than that Conyers should’ve served out his term.

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austin_blue  Dec 9, 2017 • 3:13:57pm

re: #91 FormerDirtDart

Navy missed winning field goal as time ran out

Good game in terrible conditions. Navy kinda shot themselves in the foot there at the end.

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lizardofid  Dec 9, 2017 • 3:14:05pm

re: #91 FormerDirtDart

Navy missed winning field goal as time ran out

looked like 3 foot left, maybe 4?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 9, 2017 • 3:14:35pm

good grief.

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freetoken  Dec 9, 2017 • 3:15:42pm

So, the Okeanos Explorer spent 4 hours going over and around a sunken ship. Not as exciting as the warships in the Pacific, but still had its own fascination.

What I guess I find even more interesting is that the shore based talking-heads who are the experts couldn’t identify the ship. 19th century, but that’s all they could deduce.

They noted that they try to find any records of lost ships in the Gulf of Mexico, but the find wrecks like this one which just don’t fit the logs of missing ships.

Which shows us once again that a lot can happen and not be recorded or remembered.

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austin_blue  Dec 9, 2017 • 3:15:45pm

re: #94 lizardofid

looked like 3 foot left, maybe 4?

Yup, after two 5-yard penalties made it a 48-yard attempt instead of 38.

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Targetpractice  Dec 9, 2017 • 3:16:59pm

re: #96 freetoken

So, the Okeanos Explorer spent 4 hours going over and around a sunken ship. Not as exciting as the warships in the Pacific, but still had its own fascination.

What I guess I find even more interesting is that the shore based talking-heads who are the experts couldn’t identify the ship. 19th century, but that’s all they could deduce.

They noted that they try to find any records of lost ships in the Gulf of Mexico, but the find wrecks like this one which just don’t fit the logs of missing ships.

Which shows us once again that a lot can happen and not be recorded or remembered.

A person could probably make a lifetime out of charting the locations of lost ship wrecks.

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freetoken  Dec 9, 2017 • 3:17:40pm

re: #98 Targetpractice

A person could probably make a lifetime out of charting the locations of lost ship wrecks.

Oh, they do. NOAA has an office that does try to keep track of marine archeological sites.

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 9, 2017 • 3:18:42pm

re: #93 austin_blue

Good game in terrible conditions. Navy kinda shot themselves in the foot there at the end.

Oh yeah, I thought Navy was gonna win. Then they started moving backward

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Targetpractice  Dec 9, 2017 • 3:18:48pm

re: #99 freetoken

Oh, they do. NOAA has an office that does try to keep track of marine archeological sites.

Neat.

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freetoken  Dec 9, 2017 • 3:22:11pm

re: #101 Targetpractice

sanctuaries.noaa.gov

explore.noaa.gov

Probably will wind up eventually on the cutting block as Trump-Republicanism dismantles our society.

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makeitstop  Dec 9, 2017 • 3:24:35pm

Good on ya, Florida.

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TedStriker  Dec 9, 2017 • 3:25:37pm

re: #103 makeitstop

Good on ya, Florida.

Even a blind squirrel finds a nut sometime.

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A Mom Anon  Dec 9, 2017 • 3:26:34pm

re: #103 makeitstop

Sadly though it only applies to O’Keefe and not Project Veritas.

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ObserverArt  Dec 9, 2017 • 3:33:09pm

So, I went out and cleaned off my walkways from the nice fluffy snow while it hasn’t been walked on much, etc.

Suddenly, a bunch of cars started pulling up and parking on the street and then as the young occupants started to get out trunks opened and music stands and cases started to come out.

I asked one young man that pulled up right where I was standing and was unloading out of his car if there was a concert this evening somewhere…jokingly. Sure ‘nuff, there is. He didn’t know where, but it was one of the bigger old homes down around the corner from me.

I asked how many are in the band/orchestra and he said up to 30, but tonight probably 15. He said they would be doing some tunes outdoors and some in at a party so no woodwinds, brass only.

They are going to do some popular music and even a few classic pieces.

They are all in some kind of a ensemble that plays at one of the renewed old classic theaters as back up to their stage programs and do some shows themselves. All seem to be 20/30 in age. I’m kinda guessing many were ex OSU band and college orchestra members. Saw several OSU stocking caps and scarves.

Pretty cool. I wonder if one of the huge houses along the street were going to be using their third floor. Some of these old places around here had ballrooms on the third floor.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 9, 2017 • 3:35:00pm

re: #63 dangerman

1. he would / could never have asked a man to do such a thing

2. she agreed to do it
i assume if she said no she wouldnt have gotten the post.
is there a name for this? hmmm

Patronymwits.

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bratwurst  Dec 9, 2017 • 3:40:47pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2017 • 3:43:45pm

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 9, 2017 • 3:44:11pm
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Alyosha  Dec 9, 2017 • 3:49:52pm
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Hiya folks, haven’t been about lately coz…

Click to Reveal

Starting therapy for borderline personality disorder.
I’m feeling more positive about the future. Hopefully once I get myself together again I’ll be able to hang out more.
Just wanted to say you guys help me get through each day and if I don’t appear later, I hope everyone has a happy and peaceful holiday season :) xo

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Dec 9, 2017 • 3:50:49pm

re: #108 bratwurst

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T.V. stands for Tele Vision. Don’t you libtards know anything?

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Charles Johnson  Dec 9, 2017 • 3:51:03pm

Trump is calling for Dave Weigel to be fired now.

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 9, 2017 • 3:55:01pm

This is why we can’t have nice things.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2017 • 3:55:02pm

re: #113 Charles Johnson

Trump is calling for Dave Weigel to be fired now.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2017 • 3:56:22pm

re: #114 goddamnedfrank

This is why we can’t have nice things.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Dec 9, 2017 • 3:56:55pm

re: #110 goddamnedfrank

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Targetpractice  Dec 9, 2017 • 3:57:40pm

re: #114 goddamnedfrank

This is why we can’t have nice things.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Dec 9, 2017 • 3:58:33pm

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makeitstop  Dec 9, 2017 • 3:59:26pm

re: #117 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

I drink more than that. This is a straw man.

Do you have them with 2 Big Macs, 2 Filet of Fishes and a large fries?

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HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2017 • 4:00:42pm

re: #119 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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A Cranky One  Dec 9, 2017 • 4:05:15pm

re: #121 HappyWarrior

FFS he RTed a fake video.

Dave W. was just “elevating the conversation”.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 9, 2017 • 4:07:37pm

Good evening…..

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 9, 2017 • 4:08:09pm

re: #112 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

T.V. stands for Tele Vision. Don’t you libtards know anything?

Is that like Uni Vision?

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Targetpractice  Dec 9, 2017 • 4:09:23pm

A man who frequently retweets fakes/hoaxes and deletes tweets in violation of federal law…wants a journalist fired for making a mistake, deleting the tweet, and then apologizing for the mistake.

We’re drilling down into all new depths of chutzpah.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 9, 2017 • 4:09:32pm

Had a pleasant, but cold, afternoon canvassing for Jones with a young lady who worked on the Bernie primaries in several southern states. Go figure.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 9, 2017 • 4:10:30pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2017 • 4:12:33pm

re: #127 Charles Johnson

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 9, 2017 • 4:13:10pm

re: #117 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

I drink more than that. This is a straw man.

are you 70 years old, obese, and mostly sedentary?

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Dave In Austin  Dec 9, 2017 • 4:14:19pm
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scottslemmons  Dec 9, 2017 • 4:17:31pm

Y’all just start posting all the things Trump has lied about, and demand Trump be fired. (Or preferably jailed) And use Trump’s tweet as a template.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Dec 9, 2017 • 4:19:21pm

re: #120 makeitstop

Do you have them with 2 Big Macs, 2 Filet of Fishes and a large fries?

Interesting stereotyping. No. I rarely eat any processed foods at all, we cook from scratch most of the time. I am a world champion athlete for men over 70. But I have this harmless addiction.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Dec 9, 2017 • 4:21:00pm

‘Once in a lifetime find’: Dinosaur tail discovered trapped in amber

The tail of a 99-million-year-old dinosaur has been found entombed in amber, an unprecedented discovery that has blown away scientists.

Xing Lida, a Chinese paleontologist found the specimen, the size of a dried apricot, at an amber market in northern Myanmar near the Chinese border.
The remarkable piece was destined to end up as a curiosity or piece of jewelry, with Burmese traders believing a plant fragment was trapped inside.
“I realized that the content was a vertebrate, probably theropod, rather than any plant,” Xing told CNN.

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 9, 2017 • 4:21:39pm

re: #41 HappyWarrior

Kicked not licked.

Fave typo of the year at LGF.

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makeitstop  Dec 9, 2017 • 4:25:25pm

re: #132 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

Interesting stereotyping. No. I rarely eat any processed foods at all, we cook from scratch most of the time. I am a world champion athlete for men over 70. But I have this harmless addiction.

Not stereotyping.

Simply listing what Trump usually eats with those Diet Cokes.

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Interesting Times  Dec 9, 2017 • 4:26:11pm

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Decatur Deb  Dec 9, 2017 • 4:27:47pm

re: #137 Interesting Times

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Skip Intro  Dec 9, 2017 • 4:29:27pm

re: #137 Interesting Times

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 9, 2017 • 4:31:22pm

OT Today I took my Mac to the Apple store to find out what is wrong with it. They could not get the diagnostics to load on it. It is at the store waiting for their server to come up. I hate to say it but I really miss my computer. They said that they should have it working by Tuesday the latest.

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 9, 2017 • 4:33:47pm

re: #82 Joe Bacon

Today I got up into the Creek Fire zone. Kagel, Little Tujunga.

FXsQIaXnO+2LFQABAkX2Lez+GSlFPEJCrEUtIZ+9HBDCg89L6lJ/Bh1tUmFCdd7yEOQhsRh3Wq/En6k5KYfyWmEmGlT/n2GDGBFejKA4bEQNrcRCAioGDj1YI11zpSOqsxF+hPAUcbLky76fP+uOT594VBMk9tbgGv/Hz9aKulm1PKmoUwSVcfSX54tl2hR0wNbTfXvxUYZq3+2D+N9W/Q==

Anyway it’s quite the apocalyptic scene. Including numerous circles of buzzards hunting the suddenly plentiful carrion up in the hills.

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 9, 2017 • 4:35:13pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 9, 2017 • 4:40:36pm

Trump appears to be the Teflon man — any behavior that would have derailed another candidacy is taken in stride by his supporters. He can do or say anything; he leads a true cult of mindless believers. We will find out on Tuesday whether Moore has inherited Trump’s immunity. It is a terrifying thought.

And Tom Arnold’s assertion that the Tweeden attack against Al Franken was a lie orchestrated by Stone to eliminate an effective voice against the Trump machine is especially troubling.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 9, 2017 • 4:44:00pm

re: #144 Backwoods_Sleuth

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HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2017 • 4:45:05pm

re: #145 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Stanley Sea  Dec 9, 2017 • 4:48:52pm

re: #146 Stanley Sea

Jared & Ivanka live in a fucking bubble.

HE thought this would all die down.

So privileged & callously shortsighted.

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freetoken  Dec 9, 2017 • 4:52:03pm

re: #144 Backwoods_Sleuth

This is all going to play into the feverish delusions of the dispensational nut jobs in America.

Which is why they love Trump: he encourages their delusions.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2017 • 4:53:28pm

re: #150 FormerDirtDart

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freetoken  Dec 9, 2017 • 4:54:38pm

The climate forecast for December for us was to be much warmer and drier than normal, and that has indeed come to pass.

Still 74F here. And it’s going to be a warm week ahead.

The threat of fires has died down a bit here in San Diego county but remains great for the counties to our north.

We’re getting clouds drifting northwards that will keep the nights warm and the humidity from getting too low:

ssd.noaa.gov

The loquats are not happy. They need rain.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Dec 9, 2017 • 4:55:26pm
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Interesting character though still a Republican.
I didn’t know this about him:

McMullin’s mother is in a same-sex marriage, having married another woman after separating from his father, and McMullin has said that “As far as my mother’s marriage is concerned, I believe in the sanctity of traditional marriage. It is an important part of my faith. My mother has a different view. That is OK. I love her very much.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 9, 2017 • 4:57:30pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 9, 2017 • 4:57:48pm

he is shocked.
SHOCKED, I say…

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ObserverArt  Dec 9, 2017 • 4:57:57pm

re: #147 HappyWarrior

JFC.

Trump Junk for Christmas.

Merry Merry.

What a pack of merry hucksters.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2017 • 4:58:36pm

re: #154 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

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Interesting character though still a Republican.
I didn’t know this about him:

He has integrity. I wish he had ran for Chaffetz seat. He should run for Hatch’s. Better him then Romney.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2017 • 4:59:10pm

re: #156 Backwoods_Sleuth

he is shocked.
SHOCKED, I say…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 9, 2017 • 5:01:21pm

re: #154 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

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Interesting character though still a Republican.
I didn’t know this about him:

Compare that to Alan Keyes who threw his daughter out of his house and disowned her when she came out.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 9, 2017 • 5:04:04pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2017 • 5:04:18pm

re: #160 Joe Bacon 🌹

Compare that to Alan Keyes who threw his daughter out of his house and disowned her when she came out.

Keyes really is a terrible person.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 9, 2017 • 5:04:38pm

re: #155 Backwoods_Sleuth

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HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2017 • 5:04:59pm

re: #161 Backwoods_Sleuth

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freetoken  Dec 9, 2017 • 5:05:47pm

re: #164 HappyWarrior

The Fundies probably have no idea about the Coptic community.

They’ll only see TURBIN!!.

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BeachDem  Dec 9, 2017 • 5:06:25pm

Why did he even bother (rhetorical question—we all know why)

Trump spent about 30 minutes inside Mississippi’s glimmering civil rights museum Saturday…

Trump delivered his speech to a largely white audience, and his motorcade left before the main opening ceremony…the president finished speaking within 10 minutes — and was gone five minutes after…He looked mostly ahead, occasionally stopping briefly to look at a picture or sign…

washingtonpost.com

What a fucking disgrace he is.

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mmmirele  Dec 9, 2017 • 5:08:06pm

re: #154 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

McMullin is Mormon and probably has people in Utah giving him the side eye because he’s 41 and not married.

ETA: Just a reminder, the largest church in Utah (also the largest church in my city as well) will excommunicate you if you get into a same-sex marriage. Moreover, that church will not allow children whose parent (note this) is in a same-sex relationship to be blessed or baptized until they are 18. This has caused a lot of anger and anguish and is so unlike Jesus.

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Belafon  Dec 9, 2017 • 5:12:58pm

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Decatur Deb  Dec 9, 2017 • 5:14:31pm

re: #170 Backwoods_Sleuth

Moore nearly disappears from campaign trail in final days of Alabama election

“Disappears”?? Well, I never!!! He’s on his way to Midland City, down 231 a piece!!!

Yeah—next best thing to disappearing.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 9, 2017 • 5:16:48pm

jeebus

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Belafon  Dec 9, 2017 • 5:19:33pm

re: #127 Charles Johnson

In your replies:

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teleskiguy  Dec 9, 2017 • 5:20:28pm

Cernovich loses it during a WNYC interview.

Iframe

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HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2017 • 5:21:13pm

re: #177 FormerDirtDart

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Targetpractice  Dec 9, 2017 • 5:29:46pm

re: #150 FormerDirtDart

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Kragar  Dec 9, 2017 • 5:30:45pm

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Kragar  Dec 9, 2017 • 5:32:15pm

Help this poor fellow out

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Ace Rothstein  Dec 9, 2017 • 5:33:19pm

re: #179 HappyWarrior

WTF is wrong with her. Someone wants to be Ann Coulter really badly.

While a student at Dartmouth, she taped gay student meetings and sent the tapes to their parents, effectively outing them. She’s a terrible person.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 9, 2017 • 5:33:47pm

Evening Lizardim.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Dec 9, 2017 • 5:33:59pm

re: #143 Hecuba’s daughter

Trump appears to be the Teflon man — any behavior that would have derailed another candidacy is taken in stride by his supporters. He can do or say anything; he leads a true cult of mindless believers. We will find out on Tuesday whether Moore has inherited Trump’s immunity. It is a terrifying thought.

And Tom Arnold’s assertion that the Tweeden attack against Al Franken was a lie orchestrated by Stone to eliminate an effective voice against the Trump machine is especially troubling.

There was a reason some of us kept harping about due process.

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teleskiguy  Dec 9, 2017 • 5:34:52pm

re: #181 Kragar

Talk about backpfeifengesicht. Yeesh!

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Targetpractice  Dec 9, 2017 • 5:35:04pm

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HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2017 • 5:35:10pm

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HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2017 • 5:36:35pm

re: #183 Ace Rothstein

While a student at Dartmouth, she taped gay student meetings and sent the tapes to their parents, effectively outing them. She’s a terrible person.

She really is. I can’t think of a honest to God thing admirable about her. She’s just as hateful as Coulter is. The only saving grace is she didn’t get the Press Secretary job she wanted.

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Belafon  Dec 9, 2017 • 5:37:40pm

re: #177 FormerDirtDart

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scottslemmons  Dec 9, 2017 • 5:39:24pm

re: #189 HappyWarrior

She really is. I can’t think of a honest to God thing admirable about her. She’s just as hateful as Coulter is. The only saving grace is she didn’t get the Press Secretary job she wanted.

I used to assume her “Nazi salute” during the convention was just a wave to the crowd that went wrong. I don’t assume that anymore. I think she’s a genuine Nazi.

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re: #177 FormerDirtDart

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Kragar  Dec 9, 2017 • 5:40:31pm

re: #190 Belafon

“Everyone was looking forward to the Christmas Party, and then Jane had to ruin everything by reporting Brad for raping her in his office. That bitch.”

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 9, 2017 • 5:42:38pm

re: #193 Kragar

“Everyone was looking forward to the Christmas Party, and then Jane had to ruin everything by reporting Brad for raping her in his office. That bitch.”

And then Jane got fired, and we all had something to look forward to again.

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Ace Rothstein  Dec 9, 2017 • 5:46:57pm

re: #195 teleskiguy

Trump’s America.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Dec 9, 2017 • 5:47:27pm

Even after living with her for all these years, I sometimes forget that Scout won’t leave the doughnut on the table alone just because she’s, you know, a cat.

Fortunately, I’m quicker.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 9, 2017 • 5:51:53pm

re: #198 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

Even after living with her for all these years, I sometimes forget that Scout won’t leave the doughnut on the table alone just because she’s, you know, a cat.

Fortunately, I’m quicker.

Cats are basically furry ninjas. I am completely convinced of this.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2017 • 5:52:09pm

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HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2017 • 5:52:44pm

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Ace Rothstein  Dec 9, 2017 • 5:53:59pm

re: #201 HappyWarrior

I blame Trump for people like this. He’s given them a voice in the highest office of the land.

The incident was in Canada, but your point stands.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2017 • 5:54:13pm

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Dec 9, 2017 • 5:55:01pm

re: #199 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Cats are basically furry ninjas. I am completely convinced of this.

Do ninjas eat donuts? I would have thought rice, fish and seaweed. And green tea.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2017 • 5:55:45pm

re: #203 Ace Rothstein

The incident was in Canada, but your point stands.

Aztec was in NM. Or do you mean the Colombian family being terrorized?

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teleskiguy  Dec 9, 2017 • 5:55:50pm

re: #203 Ace Rothstein

The incident was in Canada, but your point stands.

Aztec High School is in New Mexico.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2017 • 5:56:46pm

re: #208 teleskiguy

Aztec High School is in New Mexico.

I think Ace means the video with the Colombian family. I commented on both but didn’t cite Trump for that one. God I feel bad for that family. So sick of bigots.

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teleskiguy  Dec 9, 2017 • 5:57:22pm

That New York Times profile of Fuckface Von Clownstick making the rounds makes me want to puke. Access journalism is a bunch of bullshit.

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Belafon  Dec 9, 2017 • 5:57:43pm

re: #203 Ace Rothstein

The incident was in Canada, but your point stands.

Wrong thread.

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MsJ  Dec 9, 2017 • 5:57:55pm

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Belafon  Dec 9, 2017 • 5:57:59pm

re: #197 jaunte

I believe they arrested the guy.

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Ace Rothstein  Dec 9, 2017 • 5:58:08pm

re: #207 HappyWarrior

Aztec was in NM. Or do you mean the Colombian family being terrorized?

The Colombian family.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2017 • 6:00:44pm

re: #214 Ace Rothstein

The Colombian family.

Yeah I thought so. No biggie.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2017 • 6:01:20pm

re: #210 teleskiguy

That New York Times profile of Fuckface Von Clownstick making the rounds makes me want to puke. Access journalism is a bunch of bullshit.

It amazes me how much the NYT kisses his orange ass given how much he attacks them.

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Ace Rothstein  Dec 9, 2017 • 6:02:07pm

re: #211 Belafon

Wrong thread.

I didn’t see that he was replying to a comment about New Mexico.

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TedStriker  Dec 9, 2017 • 6:02:32pm

re: #210 teleskiguy

That New York Times profile of Fuckface Von Clownstick making the rounds makes me want to puke. Access journalism is a bunch of bullshit.

re: #216 HappyWarrior

It amazes me how much the NYT kisses his orange ass given how much he attacks them.

Journalistic Stockholm Syndrome.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2017 • 6:02:48pm

re: #211 Belafon

Wrong thread.

Easy mistake. I commented on both what happened with the Colombian family and the Aztec HS shooter.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2017 • 6:03:45pm

That is white privilege right there btw. I doubt my grandfather and older aunts and uncles received any harassment during WWII for us having a German surname.

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jaunte  Dec 9, 2017 • 6:03:52pm
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Look at the replies in this thread and tell me there isn’t some serious brainwashing going on.

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Belafon  Dec 9, 2017 • 6:05:26pm

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Look at the replies in this thread and tell me there isn’t some serious brainwashing going on.

It’s true, and has no application to today’s politics.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2017 • 6:05:57pm

re: #221 jaunte

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Look at the replies in this thread and tell me there isn’t some serious brainwashing going on.

They really want to play this stupid game? Listen Conservatives, Civil Rights was never about Democrat versus Republican. It was about conservatives like yourselves who insisted that the feds shouldn’t be involved in civil rights. Gee what does that remind me of? And liberals who thought they should. Again, gee what does that remind you of? Yes, the Dixiecrats were Democrats but it’s also true that your precious Reagan and Nixon made them Republican voters for good on the presidential level.

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MsJ  Dec 9, 2017 • 6:06:00pm

re: #197 jaunte

Here’s been charged and denied bail.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2017 • 6:07:10pm

re: #222 Belafon

It’s true, and has no application to today’s politics.

It’s almost like party ideologies don’t change over time. The Republicans if they were serious about civil rights in 1964 never would have nominated Goldwater, they never would have condoned the Southern Strategies of Nixon and Reagan, having Atwater use his tactics for GHW Bush, and of course Trumpism.

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jaunte  Dec 9, 2017 • 6:07:51pm

re: #222 Belafon

It’s true, and has no application to today’s politics.

It’s just bizarre that people are still playing this game and thinking it’s a clever argument.

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Belafon  Dec 9, 2017 • 6:10:09pm

Things that were true and are meaningless in politics today:
1. We were a British colony.
2. Virginia had a larger population than New York.
3. Iowa sent the highest percentage of it’s population to fight for the North in the Civil War.
4. Democrats were the party of slavery.
5. Republicans were the party of abolitionists.
6. Ronald Reagan was governor of California.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2017 • 6:10:55pm

re: #226 jaunte

It’s just bizarre that people are still playing this game and thinking it’s a clever argument.

The sad thing is they think they’re really “schooling those ignorant liberals.” I appreciate the Republicans that supported Civil Rights. It’s why his associating with McCarthyism aside, I don’t mind pre 1968 Nixon that much and think Eisenhower was a good President but the thing is the party’s been on a downward spiral on civil rights ever since 1960 and the Dems have progressively gotten better.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2017 • 6:11:44pm

re: #227 Belafon

Things that were true and are meaningless in politics today:
1. We were a British colony.
2. Virginia had a larger population than New York.
3. Iowa sent the highest percentage of it’s population to fight for the North in the Civil War.
4. Democrats were the party of slavery.
5. Republicans were the party of abolitionists.
6. Ronald Reagan was governor of California.

You can add also the fact that the White Working Class was once a key element of the Democratic base too. It’s unfortunate but things have changed.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 9, 2017 • 6:13:31pm

re: #210 teleskiguy

That New York Times profile of Fuckface Von Clownstick making the rounds makes me want to puke. Access journalism is a bunch of bullshit.

It’s fucking horrible to see the New York Times sucking up to Trump. One of many horrible things about this terrible era.

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Targetpractice  Dec 9, 2017 • 6:13:35pm

“The Confederates were all Democrats and Democrats totally opposed the Civil Rights movement, which is why they’re wrong today for tryin’ to tear down statues representing our heritage and tryin’ to push affirmative action and voting rights!”

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Belafon  Dec 9, 2017 • 6:14:20pm

re: #227 Belafon

Things that were true and are meaningless in politics today:
1. We were a British colony.
2. Virginia had a larger population than New York.
3. Iowa sent the highest percentage of it’s population to fight for the North in the Civil War.
4. Democrats were the party of slavery.
5. Republicans were the party of abolitionists.
6. Ronald Reagan was governor of California.

7. Reagan was a Democrat and supported the New Deal.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2017 • 6:14:45pm

re: #231 Targetpractice

“The Confederates were all Democrats and Democrats totally opposed the Civil Rights movement, which is why they’re wrong today for tryin’ to tear down statues representing our heritage and tryin’ to push affirmative action and voting rights!”

Yeah I’ve tried pointing that out and I never get a straight answer so I’ve just given up.

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The Major  Dec 9, 2017 • 6:16:20pm

re: #76 ObserverArt

I’m still waiting for the Annual Presidential Physical at Walter Reed….

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 9, 2017 • 6:16:33pm

This is what I found up at the range. Lots of it is still intact.

Angeles Range Update 1

llORHhy/g77PVwCquc+XtwSA5ONF+pA/VOGx1J+xdzCxhcaPXd3sg5t+H7nVHSBMfAzMUtNnX0qYf9HgLo2I15JCoJsoF+blwDKtojzi8K1Pc25WcjI6kKq/ehJEaOYsXNgvRJfyhnC/21XjE7K9gsIH3Ugc17gU9xR7G7HjWhD8O9tH4PWBv0dV2xuaAn2+/xUp24hNujCP0g02Bb+mueLY4FJMzNIgAfE/NGGlbBRI/jyU9GH3nQbvGXwkjJK6rMvemH07TzvofQnNakTE5KMr6JQPKfR3qE6UAkLLfLZIi7ETkbOPiSBg6lFTeuWeGCAdbvu279aHT/UPENrEuk8zN4rgCZZUYzehTo/3zc0mch1CgqHgBzJDu42tsbPxx3zBFV3UMrtMTJ5E/TdXvDp2GQZkZZqobNpSH+ADGR/U50OOKs4wXw==

I was ankle deep in ash. My truck and clothes stink of burnt everything. The landscape makes one want to weep. Observing the many vultures, well you know the hills have many animals that were killed by the fire. I went by Padilla ranch where 30 horses died in circumstances best left un-described. My emotions are pretty mixed.

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Ace Rothstein  Dec 9, 2017 • 6:17:33pm

re: #232 Belafon

7. Reagan was a Democrat and supported the New Deal.

8. Reagan was the leader of a union.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 9, 2017 • 6:18:37pm

re: #216 HappyWarrior

It amazes me how much the NYT kisses his orange ass given how much he attacks them.

And it’s amazing to see how the Screw York Times still continues to trash Hillary!

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Schweppes7  Dec 9, 2017 • 6:19:29pm
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BeachDem  Dec 9, 2017 • 6:20:55pm

OK—I’m in a terrible mood, so I think I’ll go watch “Freedom Riders” in honor of John Lewis and civil rights.

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Belafon  Dec 9, 2017 • 6:20:57pm

re: #238 Schweppes7

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Now that I think about it a bit more, this is actually an indirect attack on Amazon and the Washington Post.

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Schweppes7  Dec 9, 2017 • 6:23:41pm

re: #240 Belafon

Yup, hence his obsession with Bezos. Sorry, I missed that this had already been posted above.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 9, 2017 • 6:26:45pm

re: #238 Schweppes7

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A complete fucking asshole who is in the inner circle of President Shithead.

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DodgerFan1988  Dec 9, 2017 • 6:35:40pm

Watching Revenge of The Sith on TNT. The more I see Darth Sidious/Emperor Palpatine, the more I’m thinking this is not a movie but a documentary about President Trump.

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Targetpractice  Dec 9, 2017 • 6:37:10pm

re: #230 Charles Johnson

It’s fucking horrible to see the New York Times sucking up to Trump. One of many horrible things about this terrible era.

I really can’t say I’m surprised by a paper that broke out their pon-poms and served as a cheerleader for the Iraq War until the shine wore off and public opinion soured. Or spent the 90s breathlessly reporting on every single “bombshell” about the Clintons, with the unspoken hope that Bill would be forced to resign in disgrace.

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scottslemmons  Dec 9, 2017 • 6:43:28pm

re: #244 Targetpractice

I really can’t say I’m surprised by a paper that broke out their pon-poms and served as a cheerleader for the Iraq War until the shine wore off and public opinion soured. Or spent the 90s breathlessly reporting on every single “bombshell” about the Clintons, with the unspoken hope that Bill would be forced to resign in disgrace.

It’s a bit surprising they’ve stuck with Trump even with his popularity way below what Dubya ever reached. I assume they think he’s finally going to give them either a nuke dropped in Asia or some death camps or something similarly fun and romantic to cover.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 9, 2017 • 6:44:16pm
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Cheechako  Dec 9, 2017 • 6:44:28pm

The New York Slimes should be moved from the news stand to the tabloid section at the super market check-out lane.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 9, 2017 • 6:50:46pm

re: #246 Charles Johnson

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If you can prove that illegal immigrants are committing all these crimes, I will agree with you. Until then, it’s just your racist bigoted bullshit opinion against the facts, which say that immigrants tend to be better behaved than American citizens. Maybe we should start paying attention to your extremist supporters, who have been making the headlines recently as committing acts of terrorism and mass murder with their precious guns?

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 9, 2017 • 6:52:16pm

re: #246 Charles Johnson

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Stanley Sea  Dec 9, 2017 • 6:53:06pm

re: #246 Charles Johnson

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His hair is freshly dyed.

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The Major  Dec 9, 2017 • 6:53:49pm

re: #161 Backwoods_Sleuth

re: #221 jaunte

Earlier this year, when I was listening to the BBC World Service, they had on a presenter from NASA that talked about the Challenger disaster about the “Normalization of deviance”.

I hunted that NASA PowerPoint down.

And to me, it’s just as applicable to our political discourse and society today - and, sad to say, blood may have to be shed to end this deviance in our culture.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 9, 2017 • 6:59:33pm
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Belafon  Dec 9, 2017 • 7:01:22pm

re: #246 Charles Johnson

If he removed “alien” I’d be all for it. We should be stopping preventable crimes, like white men going on mass killings with automatic weapons.

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Targetpractice  Dec 9, 2017 • 7:01:55pm

re: #245 scottslemmons

It’s a bit surprising they’ve stuck with Trump even with his popularity way below what Dubya ever reached. I assume they think he’s finally going to give them either a nuke dropped in Asia or some death camps or something similarly fun and romantic to cover.

I’m not really surprised. The Gray Lady has had a decades-long hate-on for the Clintons, which made them perfect targets for the Russian ratfucking that went on. I suspect some in the management have realized this…and decided that best thing to do is to sink further into denial. Hence their work to convince themselves and the public that Trump’s victory was some sort of watershed moment for the “working class” and “economic anxiety.”

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Dec 9, 2017 • 7:06:19pm

re: #6 HappyWarrior

She’s correct. My brother lives in Nevada. He actually supported Bernie last year but he finds caucuses undemocratic. Honestly, I’d be fine with doing away with the Super-delegates if all caucuses are eliminated and replaced with primaries. I’ll even budge on the closed/open primary issue though I think it should be up to the state but caucuses need to go for the reasons why Ana described much better than I could.

They are also poorly run, take hours, and therefore plenty of people don’t bother showing up for them.

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The Major  Dec 9, 2017 • 7:16:09pm

re: #254 Targetpractice

The Gray Lady has had a decades-long hate-on for the Clintons, which made them perfect targets for the Russian ratfucking that went on.

The Grey Lady has gone senile, and should be put in a Nursing home…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 9, 2017 • 7:43:22pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Dec 9, 2017 • 7:48:33pm

re: #252 Barefoot Grin

That make me feel like I’ve had too much nitrous and the video is talking to me.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 9, 2017 • 7:48:47pm

re: #205 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

Do ninjas eat donuts? I would have thought rice, fish and seaweed. And green tea.

No one will ever know if ninjas eat donuts. They are that ninja-like.

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 9, 2017 • 8:58:09pm

re: #166 Backwoods_Sleuth

Dark days upon us. Who would have thought?


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