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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 14, 2017 • 6:05:16pm

I imagine Don Jr can’t imagine his Dad appointing somebody of color.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 14, 2017 • 6:08:15pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 14, 2017 • 6:09:02pm

re: #1 Blind Frog Belly White

I imagine Don Jr can’t imagine his Dad appointing somebody of color.

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He’s even dumber than his dad. He’s definitely dumber than Barron. Barron learned Slovene. Can’t see Dumbo Je learning orvwantyijh to lesrn Czech.

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VegasGolfer  Dec 14, 2017 • 6:09:41pm

Wanted to repost this from downstairs.
I know people won’t march in the streets or storm the Congress with pitchforks, but this seems like an interesting way to protest.

Has anybody heard of how people are talking about protesting the tax scam, by withholding their monthly tax deductions?
Basically you put your withholdings in a savings account, then just pay in April.
If enough people did this could cause big problems for the government.
Heard it on a show on SiriusXM today.

BBL. I’m with all the nerds watching the new Star Wars movie.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 14, 2017 • 6:10:16pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

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They really wanted him to be a HRC guy but he’s likely not. I

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makeitstop  Dec 14, 2017 • 6:12:15pm

re: #1 Blind Frog Belly White

I imagine Don Jr can’t imagine his Dad appointing somebody of color.

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I can’t imagine him spelling the hashtag correctly. ‘Neutality?’

Someone on that FCC thread said that Russian trolls were spelling it that way

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nowherenorth2  Dec 14, 2017 • 6:12:18pm

My god…..the dumb. The dumb.

cnn.com

Just an opinion and a pretty dumb one to boot.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 14, 2017 • 6:12:25pm
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Stanley Sea  Dec 14, 2017 • 6:13:21pm

re: #3 HappyWarrior

He’s even dumber than his dad. He’s definitely dumber than Barron. Barron learned Slovene. Can’t see Dumbo Je learning orvwantyijh to lesrn Czech.

Proof? Kid isn’t even on the Christmas card.

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Sham fam

& nice typos

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 14, 2017 • 6:13:48pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 14, 2017 • 6:14:08pm

re: #7 nowherenorth2

My god…..the dumb. The dumb.

cnn.com

Just an opinion and a pretty dumb one to boot.

He lost me at modern day JFK. Moore is a moron.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 14, 2017 • 6:15:02pm

re: #10 Anymouse 🌹

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Oh The Feferalist. A bunch of right wing losers who don’t understand women let alone men at all.

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nowherenorth2  Dec 14, 2017 • 6:15:03pm

re: #11 HappyWarrior

I just couldn’t even you know. My brain shut off

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 14, 2017 • 6:15:27pm

re: #10 Anymouse 🌹

What the what? So women secretly like getting harassed, abused, and raped?

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HappyWarrior  Dec 14, 2017 • 6:15:46pm

re: #13 nowherenorth2

I just couldn’t even you know. My brain shut off

You ain’t kidding.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 14, 2017 • 6:16:00pm

re: #14 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

What the what? So women secretly like getting harassed, abused, and raped?

Apparently.

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allegro  Dec 14, 2017 • 6:16:19pm

re: #14 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

What the what? So women secretly like getting harassed, abused, and raped?

I swear, they will never ever get the concept of consent. They prove it over and over again.

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nowherenorth2  Dec 14, 2017 • 6:20:17pm

re: #15 HappyWarrior

Yeah..the modern day JFK ensuring that the people I work with will not receive any benefits at all.

Ugh what an idiot.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 14, 2017 • 6:21:40pm

re: #18 nowherenorth2

Yeah..the modern day JFK ensuring that the people I work with will not receive any benefits at all.

Ugh what an idiot.

Not to mention the Moore’s of JFK’s time hated him.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 14, 2017 • 6:21:50pm

re: #14 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

What the what? So women secretly like getting harassed, abused, and raped?

I confess I do not understand the mind of a conservative. You got me.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 14, 2017 • 6:22:20pm

re: #17 allegro

I swear, they will never ever get the concept of consent. They prove it over and over again.

Exactly. Call me “weird” but I like it when my partner likes being with me.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 14, 2017 • 6:24:07pm

re: #7 nowherenorth2

My god…..the dumb. The dumb.

cnn.com

Just an opinion and a pretty dumb one to boot.

Who is that fool Stephen Moore? I couldn’t get past about the third paragraph, because there was so much propaganda and so few facts in the article.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 14, 2017 • 6:25:26pm

re: #17 allegro

I swear, they will never ever get the concept of consent. They prove it over and over again.

I just … ugh. The subtle problem with that headline/snippet is that part of it is true - most women do want to feel attractive, and many do enjoy sexually oriented interactions. But that has zero connection to the idea that women might enjoy unwanted attentions or interactions.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 14, 2017 • 6:25:32pm

re: #22 Anymouse 🌹

Who is that fool Stephen Moore? I couldn’t get past about the third paragraph, because there was so much propaganda and so few facts in the article.

Former chairman of the Club for Growth and a former Trump economic adviser who currently is a CNN guy.

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Jebediah, RBG  Dec 14, 2017 • 6:26:02pm

re: #17 allegro

I swear, they will never ever get the concept of consent. They prove it over and over again.

I think they also will never get that women don’t consider themselves to be nothing more than their looks.

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nowherenorth2  Dec 14, 2017 • 6:26:42pm

re: #24 HappyWarrior

The fact that this moron is on any news network just boggles my mind.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 14, 2017 • 6:27:06pm

re: #23 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I just … ugh. The subtle problem with that headline/snippet is that part of it is true - most women do want to feel attractive, and many do enjoy sexually oriented interactions. But that has zero connection to the idea that women might enjoy unwanted attentions or interactions.

Exactly how fucking hard is that? I want to ask these guys if an older woman coworker they had no attraction to kept on telling them they were hot and they should fuck but that’d involve empathy.

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jaunte  Dec 14, 2017 • 6:29:31pm

Maddow is going through the WaPo reporting on Trump, Tillerson and the Putin-enabling complaisance in this White House. Disgusting.

Traitors, all of them.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 14, 2017 • 6:29:52pm

re: #20 Anymouse 🌹

I confess I do not understand the mind of a conservative. You got me.

Whereas I do. My question was mostly rhetorical - in wingnut-land, a woman is property, a trophy to be showcased. The idea of consent never enters into their head; the woman does what the man wants, when he wants it. It’s ingrained in their twisted Biblical interpretation of, “Wives, submit to your husbands,” that has been taken so far out of context that part of me wants to (sacrilege!) rip that page out of the Bible and burn it. In that line of thinking, a woman who says “no” clearly means, “Yes, but only if you force me, because I like it when you exercise your Biblical authority over me,” rather than meaning, “Seriously, no, fuck off, you creep.” Because there’s no way a proper conservative woman would ever dare to actually mean “no” when she says it to a man… he’s the head of the household.

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 14, 2017 • 6:34:20pm
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allegro  Dec 14, 2017 • 6:35:58pm

re: #23 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I just … ugh. The subtle problem with that headline/snippet is that part of it is true - most women do want to feel attractive, and many do enjoy sexually oriented interactions. But that has zero connection to the idea that women might enjoy unwanted attentions or interactions.

There’s also a much bigger cultural issue here. Women’s value is centered on our appearance. We’re taught this from birth. It’s reinforced every single day of our lives. Sure, we want to to feel attractive to those we want to attract. So do men. But we also want to survive and have a shot of living our best lives. Playing the beauty game isn’t really a choice for women. We get punished either way but the punishment for ugly is WAY worse.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 14, 2017 • 6:35:59pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 14, 2017 • 6:36:30pm

re: #30 FormerDirtDart

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Hopefully they can convict.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 14, 2017 • 6:37:08pm

re: #32 GlutenFreeJesus

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I didn’t even notice that part. What a dummy.

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jaunte  Dec 14, 2017 • 6:39:02pm

re: #32 GlutenFreeJesus

“Nobody knew health care was so complicated.”
“Nobody heard of net neutrality before this week.”

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jaunte  Dec 14, 2017 • 6:44:17pm
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makeitstop  Dec 14, 2017 • 6:45:56pm

LOL

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EPR-radar  Dec 14, 2017 • 6:46:50pm

re: #29 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Whereas I do. My question was mostly rhetorical - in wingnut-land, a woman is property, a trophy to be showcased. The idea of consent never enters into their head; the woman does what the man wants, when he wants it. It’s ingrained in their twisted Biblical interpretation of, “Wives, submit to your husbands,” that has been taken so far out of context that part of me wants to (sacrilege!) rip that page out of the Bible and burn it. In that line of thinking, a woman who says “no” clearly means, “Yes, but only if you force me, because I like it when you exercise your Biblical authority over me,” rather than meaning, “Seriously, no, fuck off, you creep.” Because there’s no way a proper conservative woman would ever dare to actually mean “no” when she says it to a man… he’s the head of the household.

Part of this same story is the horrible idea that rape of a woman is not a crime of violence against the woman — it is a property crime and the real victim is the woman’s male owner. RWNJ blather about purity, rape etc. often shows traces of this vile view.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 14, 2017 • 6:48:30pm

re: #38 EPR-radar

Part of this same story is the horrible idea that rape of a woman is not a crime of violence against the woman — it is a property crime and the real victim is the woman’s male owner. RWNJ blather about purity, rape etc. often shows traces of this vile view.

Yup. And you can see all this also in the MRA/Red Pill garbage - often reinforced by the Hollywood tropes of “the good guy always gets the girl in the end” - that they feel they are owed respect and sexual desire by the objects of their affection. (Phrasing deliberately chosen.)

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 14, 2017 • 6:51:18pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 14, 2017 • 6:51:37pm

re: #36 jaunte

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This is so fucked up. And it’s not skepticism. It’s complicity.

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teleskiguy  Dec 14, 2017 • 6:52:59pm
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teleskiguy  Dec 14, 2017 • 6:58:23pm
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Stanley Sea  Dec 14, 2017 • 6:58:51pm

Sandy Hook memory on CNN.

I’m bawling.

We are so fucked up

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BeachDem  Dec 14, 2017 • 6:59:08pm

re: #4 VegasGolfer

Wanted to repost this from downstairs.
I know people won’t march in the streets or storm the Congress with pitchforks, but this seems like an interesting way to protest.

Has anybody heard of how people are talking about protesting the tax scam, by withholding their monthly tax deductions?
Basically you put your withholdings in a savings account, then just pay in April.
If enough people did this could cause big problems for the government.
Heard it on a show on SiriusXM today.

BBL. I’m with all the nerds watching the new Star Wars movie.

As a self-employed person, that’s what I’ve always done—I’m supposed to pay quarterly estimates but almost never do. The penalties aren’t a whole lot for just paying it in April (at least on what I make—which is not nothing, but not 6 figures.)

Do employed people have access to their withholding to even do that?

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jaunte  Dec 14, 2017 • 7:01:32pm
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jaunte  Dec 14, 2017 • 7:01:44pm
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Stanley Sea  Dec 14, 2017 • 7:02:04pm

re: #45 BeachDem

As a self-employed person, that’s what I’ve always done—I’m supposed to pay quarterly estimates but almost never do. The penalties aren’t a whole lot for just paying it in April (at least on what I make—which is not nothing, but not 6 figures.)

Do employed people have access to their withholding to even do that?

NO.

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Belafon  Dec 14, 2017 • 7:03:19pm

re: #45 BeachDem

As a self-employed person, that’s what I’ve always done—I’m supposed to pay quarterly estimates but almost never do. The penalties aren’t a whole lot for just paying it in April (at least on what I make—which is not nothing, but not 6 figures.)

Do employed people have access to their withholding to even do that?

You could declare a whole lot of exemptions to get the maximum paycheck possible.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 14, 2017 • 7:04:24pm

re: #49 Belafon

You could declare a whole lot of exemptions to get the maximum paycheck possible.

True. Used to do payroll, recall a woman who was single with no kids who claimed 7 deductions.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 14, 2017 • 7:04:34pm

Well, it would appear my ISP didn’t waste any time removing their pledge to honour NN should the FCC remove it.

They also divided up further the speeds at which they will provide service (for additional money of course). There are now five tiers in Mbps: 1,000, 100, 40, 20, 12

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Stanley Sea  Dec 14, 2017 • 7:05:21pm

re: #50 Stanley Sea

True. Used to do payroll, recall a woman who was single with no kids who claimed 7 deductions.

I do believe she got audited. Blamed the CPA etc.

Loooong time ago.

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Belafon  Dec 14, 2017 • 7:05:29pm

re: #51 Anymouse 🌹

Do you have a link or anything online?

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HappyWarrior  Dec 14, 2017 • 7:07:13pm

re: #44 Stanley Sea

Sandy Hook memory on CNN.

I’m bawling.

We are so fucked up

Still breaks my heart too. My niece will be in Kindergarten in a couple years.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 14, 2017 • 7:09:53pm
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Belafon  Dec 14, 2017 • 7:13:00pm

Maybe a bunch of people could do the opposite: Pay a bunch in taxes and then have the government have to give you a big refund.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 14, 2017 • 7:13:29pm

re: #55 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 14, 2017 • 7:13:34pm

re: #53 Belafon

Do you have a link or anything online?

centurylink.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 14, 2017 • 7:15:33pm
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teleskiguy  Dec 14, 2017 • 7:16:09pm
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Stanley Sea  Dec 14, 2017 • 7:16:49pm

re: #58 Anymouse 🌹

centurylink.com

??

That’s just their website

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Belafon  Dec 14, 2017 • 7:17:00pm

re: #58 Anymouse 🌹

centurylink.com

If I remember correctly, AT&T had more than one data rate plan you could choose from.

When it’s really going to stink is if you have to pay extra to watch Netflix or access Amazon, or LGF.

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BeachDem  Dec 14, 2017 • 7:18:59pm

re: #46 jaunte

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Jennifer Rubin (I still can’t believe I’m citing Jennifer Rubin)

It’s Rosenstein who has behaved unethically, not Mueller

Rosenstein threw them under the bus, disclosing their private texts to Congress and the media. It’s rare to see such an aggressive act of betrayal by a political appointee on members of his own department, for the sole reason (apparently) to curry favor with the party of the president who appointed him.

washingtonpost.com

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Stanley Sea  Dec 14, 2017 • 7:19:46pm

re: #62 Belafon

If I remember correctly, AT&T had more than one data rate plan you could choose from.

When it’s really going to stink is if you have to pay extra to watch Netflix or access Amazon, or LGF.

I have Spectrum (formerly Time Warner) there’s always tier pricing for speed.

I pay max, my company reimburses partial.

Seems like nothing new with tiered pricing. Are you sure this is new Anymouse?

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HappyWarrior  Dec 14, 2017 • 7:20:49pm

re: #60 teleskiguy

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Or made Breitbart slow to load.

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garzooma  Dec 14, 2017 • 7:25:01pm

Just saw this Daily Beast piece linking together Harvey Weinstein’s and Donald Trump’s behavior towards Salma Hayek: How Harvey Weinstein and Donald Trump Retaliated Against Salma Hayek In particular, the following section shows that Trump might find himself in trouble on another front:

In October 2016, Hayek… shared a story of her personal interactions with Donald Trump. During a radio interview, the actress recalled, …”When I told him [Trump] I wouldn’t go out with him even if I didn’t have a boyfriend… he called—well, he wouldn’t say he called, but someone told the National Enquirer—I’m not going to say who, because you know that whatever he wants to come out comes out in the National Enquirer [emphasis added]. It said that he wouldn’t go out with me because I was too short.”

this is significant, because the National Enquirer is also implicated in the Weinstein affair:

As The Washington Post noted, “The National Enquirer provided to Democrat Harvey Weinstein the same reputation-management services that it furnished to Republican Donald Trump.” The New Yorker reported: “A December 2016, email exchange between Weinstein and Dylan Howard, the chief content officer of American Media Inc., which publishes the National Enquirer, shows that Howard shared with Weinstein material obtained by one of his reporters, as part of an effort to help Weinstein disprove [Rose] McGowan’s allegation of rape.

and this hasn’t escaped the notice of Weinstein’s accusers, who have include the National Enquirer in their class action lawsuit:

The lawsuit accuses Weinstein and associates of engaging in a pattern of harassment of victims. Weinstein’s staff, board members, hired operatives, attorneys, National Enquirer writers[emphasis added], and others allegedly formed what the lawsuit calls the “Weinstein Sexual Enterprise” that violated the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO) Act.

It’s not hard to see how an investigation into the National Enquirer’s complicity with Weinstein would also shed light on the aforementioned activities of Trump.

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JordanRules  Dec 14, 2017 • 7:25:58pm

Share if you can peeps!

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teleskiguy  Dec 14, 2017 • 7:29:03pm
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JordanRules  Dec 14, 2017 • 7:29:21pm

re: #64 Stanley Sea

We’ve definitely always had tiers with CL in Phoenix. My Pops has worked for CL forever, back when they were one of the baby Bells.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 14, 2017 • 7:30:03pm

This is just unreal. One of Trump’s federal district court judge nominees COMPLETELY UNABLE to answer basic legal questions.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 14, 2017 • 7:30:33pm

re: #62 Belafon

If I remember correctly, AT&T had more than one data rate plan you could choose from.

When it’s really going to stink is if you have to pay extra to watch Netflix or access Amazon, or LGF.

CenturyLink had three. Now it’s five. And the prices are higher. I suspect a rate hike on my next telephone bill.

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JordanRules  Dec 14, 2017 • 7:32:49pm
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jaunte  Dec 14, 2017 • 7:33:02pm

re: #71 Anymouse 🌹

Republicans never miss a chance to screw up economic opportunities while imagining they’re doing the opposite.

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JordanRules  Dec 14, 2017 • 7:35:31pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 14, 2017 • 7:36:05pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 14, 2017 • 7:36:13pm

re: #70 Charles Johnson

This is just unreal. One of Trump’s federal district court judge nominees COMPLETELY UNABLE to answer basic legal questions.

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Refreshing to see a Republican do that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 14, 2017 • 7:37:21pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 14, 2017 • 7:37:57pm

re: #74 JordanRules

LOL!

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Cruz still knows nothing about NN.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 14, 2017 • 7:38:26pm

re: #69 JordanRules

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HappyWarrior  Dec 14, 2017 • 7:38:48pm

re: #77 Backwoods_Sleuth

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My sympathies to all agents on duty that day. It’d be really tempting to shout obscenities but they’ll have to be professional.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 14, 2017 • 7:39:09pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Dec 14, 2017 • 7:39:44pm

re: #74 JordanRules

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 14, 2017 • 7:42:40pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 14, 2017 • 7:44:43pm
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teleskiguy  Dec 14, 2017 • 7:47:14pm
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mmmirele  Dec 14, 2017 • 7:47:31pm

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 14, 2017 • 7:48:01pm

re: #78 HappyWarrior

Cruz still knows nothing about NN.

My guess is he’s paid very well not to know.

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scottslemmons  Dec 14, 2017 • 7:48:48pm

Well, I’m depressed beyond belief about everything falling to pieces in this country. And all the sites I’d usually rely on for happy or nerdy news are… focusing on the tax bill and net neutrality disasters.

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jaunte  Dec 14, 2017 • 7:49:54pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 14, 2017 • 7:50:30pm

re: #88 scottslemmons

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HappyWarrior  Dec 14, 2017 • 7:52:04pm

re: #87 Anymouse 🌹

My guess is he’s paid very well not to know.

True.

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jaunte  Dec 14, 2017 • 7:52:16pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 14, 2017 • 7:52:40pm

Something pathetic about a sitting Senator calling concerned citizens “Snowflakes.” I hope O’Rourke pounces on that.

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teleskiguy  Dec 14, 2017 • 7:53:36pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 14, 2017 • 7:54:00pm

re: #92 jaunte

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Hey Ben do you ever shut the fuck up? Maybe you’ll sing a different tune when an ISP who doesn’t like your pathetic shit starts to charge you more and then you’ll get why we supported NN. We’ve had NN since you were a pre-teen, the Obama rules merely strengthened those protections. Maybe if you did something other than jerking yourself off all day, you’d know that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 14, 2017 • 7:57:55pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 14, 2017 • 7:58:22pm

The thing that right wing hacks not talking about politicians like Cruz and Pai don’t want to tell you is this, we’ve always had some form of NN. Obama didn’t create NN out of thin air. He merely strengthened the bipartisan consensus on internet access that has gone on since the early 90’s when most Americans connected to the web for the first time. As I said, gonna be funny as hell when these conservative shit talkers see that an ISP is slowing down their access to their blogs and Twitters because they don’t like their views. So to Shapiro, Jones, Cernovich, and all those guys, don’t cry to the liberals when your service sucks because the ISP charges you extra because you suck and you get less readers of your inane crap.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 14, 2017 • 8:00:10pm

re: #96 Backwoods_Sleuth

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It’ll be a sad day when the last one goes. Someone here on LGF or maybe it was on the SPLC’s website told me but other tribes used their languages too and the Gaelic speakers of Scotland and Ireland did a similiar service for the Brits. All I can say, if there ever was an argument for encouraging multiple languages, that’s certainly one of them. And it’s too bad the Nick Cage movie on this was only so-so because it’s an excellent subject.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 14, 2017 • 8:03:48pm

I don’t think any of these so called “ultra capitalists” get that this decision is really going to radically change how we access the internet in this country. Shapiro can mock all he wants but that little prick’s going to be singing a different tune when all the poor bastards that give him his clicks that he needs can’t afford access.

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A Mom Anon  Dec 14, 2017 • 8:05:31pm

re: #99 HappyWarrior

I think greed has overtaken even basic business sense. That and their idiotic and destructive Masters of the Universe bullshit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 14, 2017 • 8:05:39pm
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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Dec 14, 2017 • 8:06:09pm

Tax cut

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jaunte  Dec 14, 2017 • 8:08:07pm

re: #99 HappyWarrior

Completely of a piece with their failure to understand the overall economy is much better off when poorer people have more money to spend than when rich people have more money to gamble in the market.

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jaunte  Dec 14, 2017 • 8:09:41pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 14, 2017 • 8:10:47pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 14, 2017 • 8:14:02pm

jeebus

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 14, 2017 • 8:14:19pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 14, 2017 • 8:14:27pm

re: #97 HappyWarrior

The thing that right wing hacks not talking about politicians like Cruz and Pai don’t want to tell you is this, we’ve always had some form of NN. Obama didn’t create NN out of thin air. He merely strengthened the bipartisan consensus on internet access that has gone on since the early 90’s when most Americans connected to the web for the first time. As I said, gonna be funny as hell when these conservative shit talkers see that an ISP is slowing down their access to their blogs and Twitters because they don’t like their views. So to Shapiro, Jones, Cernovich, and all those guys, don’t cry to the liberals when your service sucks because the ISP charges you extra because you suck and you get less readers of your inane crap.

Well, it looks like I might need to go back to my BBS that indirectly interfaced with FidoNet back in the Eighties. I’m sure I can dig up my C-64 BBS software somewhere… .

Commodore 64 Start Screen
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 14, 2017 • 8:16:38pm
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teleskiguy  Dec 14, 2017 • 8:21:40pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 14, 2017 • 8:30:18pm

Merriam-Webster announced it’s word of the year, based on percentage increase on the number of lookups.

This year’s word increased 70% over last year: Feminism.

huffingtonpost.com (video)

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teleskiguy  Dec 14, 2017 • 8:30:21pm

There’s something quite peaceful about watching these snowcats move so much snow around to make a nice piste.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Dec 14, 2017 • 8:30:25pm

Fwiw

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JordanRules  Dec 14, 2017 • 8:35:11pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 14, 2017 • 8:37:33pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 14, 2017 • 8:38:28pm

re: #115 JordanRules

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Makes sense if you’re a moron.

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teleskiguy  Dec 14, 2017 • 8:39:54pm

re: #115 JordanRules

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 14, 2017 • 8:41:29pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 14, 2017 • 8:44:53pm

Internet service should be a public utility, provided as a public good rather than for profit.

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The Major  Dec 14, 2017 • 8:45:35pm

re: #12 HappyWarrior

Oh The Feferalist. A bunch of right wing losers who don’t understand women let alone men at all.

What else do you expect from “Box Turtle Ben” Domensch ?

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 14, 2017 • 8:45:53pm

re: #120 Big Beautiful Door

Internet service should be a public utility, provided as a pubic good rather than for profit.

*Ahem* I think you meant to say public good. :p

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 14, 2017 • 8:47:17pm

re: #120 Big Beautiful Door

Internet service should be a public utility, provided as a pubic good rather than for profit.

Cue cries of socialism …

You know, socialism probably wouldn’t exist as an economic model if capitalism didn’t work so hard to collect all the economic cookies for a few powerful people.

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freetoken  Dec 14, 2017 • 8:47:26pm

re: #120 Big Beautiful Door

Internet service should be a public utility, provided as a pubic [sic] good rather than for profit.

At least where there is only one possible to-every-door provider, I’d agree that the distribution service ought to be treated as a monopoly.

Whether it can be privately owned or publicly owned, I don’t really think it makes a difference if it is regulated as a monopoly.

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 14, 2017 • 8:47:42pm

re: #122 Dr Lizardo

*Ahem* I think you meant to say public good. :p

Whoops. Of course that would fit with the meme that the internet is for porn./

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 14, 2017 • 8:47:52pm

re: #120 Big Beautiful Door

Internet service should be a public utility, provided as a pubic good rather than for profit.

That’s what PornHub does.

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allegro  Dec 14, 2017 • 8:48:49pm

re: #122 Dr Lizardo

*Ahem* I think you meant to say public good. :p

Still made perfect sense.

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makeitstop  Dec 14, 2017 • 8:49:04pm

re: #114 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Fwiw

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I noticed others on Twitter (Rick Wilson and Counterchkist) alluding to something earlier this evening. More indictments, maybe?

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The Major  Dec 14, 2017 • 8:49:21pm

re: #29 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

It’s ingrained in their twisted Biblical interpretation of, “Wives, submit to your husbands,” that has been taken so far out of context that part of me wants to (sacrilege!) rip that page out of the Bible and burn it.

And it’s these same eejets who forget how woman was created by God himself: From the rib of Adam - Not from the top, not from the bottom of Adam: but from THE SIDE OF ADAM.

Christ on a pony - these fuckers don’t even understand Genesis for damn’s sake.

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jaunte  Dec 14, 2017 • 8:50:04pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 14, 2017 • 8:50:16pm

re: #129 The Major

And it’s these same eejets who forget how woman was created by God himself: From the rib of Adam - Not from the top, not from the bottom of Adam: but from THE SIDE OF ADAM.

Christ on a pony - these fuckers don’t even understand Genesis for damn’s sake.

Well, to be fair, Genesis has two different, mutually-exclusive creation stories. (Gen 1 and Gen 2).

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 14, 2017 • 8:51:40pm

re: #128 makeitstop

I noticed others on Twitter (Rick Wilson and Counterchkist) alluding to something earlier this evening. More indictments, maybe?

That seems to be the rumor that’s flying around.

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makeitstop  Dec 14, 2017 • 8:51:44pm

re: #122 Dr Lizardo

*Ahem* I think you meant to say public good. :p

Depends on what kind of sites you frequent.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 14, 2017 • 8:51:59pm

re: #130 jaunte

And Twitter won’t ban those accounts, because profit.

“The Capitalists will sell us the rope with which we will hang them.”

― Vladimir Lenin

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 14, 2017 • 8:53:48pm

re: #50 Stanley Sea

True. Used to do payroll, recall a woman who was single with no kids who claimed 7 deductions.

I had a brother in law who boasted at a family gathering that he was going to stiff the IRS. He got audited and nailed for tax evasion—end result—he went crying to then-Senator Prick Santorum who got him off the hook.

When ol’Prick ran for Senator in 1994, he made the fatal mistake of knocking on my parent’s door. Mom opened the door and she told him to go fuck himself and she slammed the door on him.

Mom told me that made her feel sooooooooooooooo gooooooooooooooooood!

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The Major  Dec 14, 2017 • 8:55:10pm

re: #36 jaunte

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makeitstop  Dec 14, 2017 • 8:56:28pm

re: #132 Dr Lizardo

That seems to be the rumor that’s flying around.

I really hope it’s a First Family member. Let’s make that punk in the White House really sweat.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 14, 2017 • 8:56:43pm

re: #72 JordanRules

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Fuck the Republicans! It’s time to blow the dust off of Section 2 of the 14th Amendment and strip Alabama of one GOP representative as punishment for voter suppression!

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 14, 2017 • 9:05:30pm

re: #138 Joe Bacon 🌹

Fuck the Republicans! It’s time to blow the dust off of Section 2 of the 14th Amendment and strip Alabama of one GOP representative as punishment for voter suppression!

The second article of the XIV Amendment has to be imposed by Congress. Good luck with that.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 14, 2017 • 9:05:36pm

re: #137 makeitstop

I really hope it’s a First Family member. Let’s make that punk in the White House really sweat.

Rumor going ‘round is

Jared Kushner

But that’s just the rumor mill. We’ll see what happens.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 14, 2017 • 9:07:27pm

re: #130 jaunte

re: #140 Dr Lizardo

As Jaunte notes above, there appears to be a lot of Russian meddling on Twitter making that claim.

Rumour control doesn’t mean diddly. If Robert Mueller has an indictment to unseal, we will know the moment it happens and not a minute before.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 14, 2017 • 9:07:32pm

By the way has Ginger Snapped or his Partner In Grime Mikeyboy posted anything since their little scam got exposed????????

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makeitstop  Dec 14, 2017 • 9:09:06pm

re: #140 Dr Lizardo

Rumor going ‘round is

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But that’s just the rumor mill. We’ll see what happens.

That would work for me.

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The Major  Dec 14, 2017 • 9:09:06pm

re: #82 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 14, 2017 • 9:09:21pm

re: #142 Joe Bacon 🌹

By the way has Ginger Snapped or his Partner In Grime Mikeyboy posted anything since their little scam got exposed????????

Mr. Cernovich is going along on Twitter, though not necessarily about their scam. Still pushing racist bs though.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 14, 2017 • 9:09:42pm

re: #141 Anymouse 🌹

Exactly.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 14, 2017 • 9:10:46pm

Back later. Off to work.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 14, 2017 • 9:11:47pm

Yikes.

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The Major  Dec 14, 2017 • 9:12:56pm

re: #92 jaunte

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HappyWarrior  Dec 14, 2017 • 9:15:07pm

re: #149 The Major

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He’s such a stupid hack.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 14, 2017 • 9:15:54pm

re: #149 The Major

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Just wait for Benjyboy to melt down when he can’t access Info Wars…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 14, 2017 • 9:17:30pm

re: #148 Anymouse 🌹

Yikes.

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Paul sounds just like those Soviet Commissars who handed out Mother of Russia medals to women who gave birth to 10 children. He’s letting his inner Bolshevik run wild…

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 14, 2017 • 9:18:00pm

My wife says she’s glad I have an Ontario accent (though I’m originally from Michigan not Ontario, I just lived very close to the border) because we might be able to use it to claim I was kidnapped from Canada as a child to gain permanent entry.

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The Major  Dec 14, 2017 • 9:18:09pm

re: #105 Backwoods_Sleuth

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garzooma  Dec 14, 2017 • 9:23:30pm

re: #120 Big Beautiful Door

Internet service should be a public utility, provided as a public good rather than for profit.

Apparently, there are quite a few of these municipal broadband networks. It sounds like this is something local jurisdictions could do, besides the lawsuits.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 14, 2017 • 9:28:24pm

re: #155 garzooma

Apparently, there are quite a few of these municipal broadband networks. It sounds like this is something local jurisdictions could do, besides the lawsuits.

When we lived in Oklahoma, the city we lived in installed massive new capacity for its computer network, and put wireless antennas on every lamppost in town (so emergency services could access that computer network).

The city then opened up the network for free use for the city’s residents (except in times where the city might need the full capacity for governmental work, that never happened while we lived there).

The cable company (Cable One) sued the city … they lost.

While large or medium municipalities might be able to provide Internet service (if their state hasn’t banned that now), small municipalities like mine cannot afford it.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 14, 2017 • 9:28:35pm

re: #151 Joe Bacon 🌹

Just wait for Benjyboy to melt down when he can’t access Info Wars…

I can’t wait to see these Bros flip their shit when they have to pay the increased fees. It’s frust to me though how many people simply don’t understand this and think this is simply returning to pre Obama era rules. Stupid idiots.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 14, 2017 • 9:31:47pm

I’m sympathetic to treating the Internet like a utility too. We rely it so much. I haven’t had a job I’ve applied to post graduation where I haven’t needed internet access.

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The Major  Dec 14, 2017 • 9:36:35pm

re: #156 Anymouse 🌹

When we lived in Oklahoma, the city we lived in installed massive new capacity for its computer network, and put wireless antennas on every lamppost in town (so emergency services could access that computer network).

Up here at The Major’s base of operation, the city put up a municipal WiFi Network for its downtown area. It’s useful, but due to the high frequencies of WiFi (2.4 GHz) building penetration is not the best - and many shops runs their own WiFi networks for their customers.
Earlier this year T-Mobile won the nationwide auction for the prized 600 MHz band being vacated by the last remaining UHF channels, which will perform way better than the current low/high-end 700 MHz service all but Sprint is using (T-Mobile is Band 12, Verizon is Band 13, AT&T is all over the board with segments of Bands 12/17/14/29).

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 14, 2017 • 9:39:07pm

re: #158 HappyWarrior

I’m sympathetic to treating the Internet like a utility too. We rely it so much. I haven’t had a job I’ve applied to post graduation where I haven’t needed internet access.

Only the last (paying) job I had (Romance editor) required me to make an Internet application.

Since the overwhelming majority of my area has no Internet service at all, no one here will see this as anything that affects them in any way.

For example, on my regional newspaper’s Website, there is nothing at all about the FCC decision (as of now). The newspaper relies on regular good-old-fashioned print circulation to make money - it doesn’t get much from its Website because so few people even have service outside the three “large” cities (Scottsbluff, Alliance, and Chadron).

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HappyWarrior  Dec 14, 2017 • 9:41:39pm

re: #160 Anymouse 🌹

Only the last (paying) job I had (Romance editor) required me to make an Internet application.

Since the overwhelming majority of my area has no Internet service at all, no one here will see this as anything that affects them in any way.

For example, on my regional newspaper’s Website, there is nothing at all about the FCC decision (as of now). The newspaper relies on regular good-old-fashioned print circulation to make money - it doesn’t get much from its Website because so few people even have service outside the three “large” cities (Scottsbluff, Alliance, and Chadron).

Unfortunately that’s not the case here. Conservatives seem to be viewing the internet as akin to a game console or tv when it’s more close to a utility especially in more urban areas.

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teleskiguy  Dec 14, 2017 • 9:42:56pm

*shudder*

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retired cynic  Dec 14, 2017 • 9:43:40pm

re: #161 HappyWarrior

Unfortunately that’s not the case here. Conservatives seem to be viewing the internet as akin to a game console or tv when it’s more close to a utility especially in more urban areas.

Not just urban. I work online, and have to have a pretty highly priced satellite internet service in order to do so.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 14, 2017 • 9:44:08pm

re: #162 teleskiguy

*shudder*

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That just makes me so sad. She lost her daughter. That’s bad enough but to have to hide her grave? Yeah Donald “fine people.”

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 14, 2017 • 9:44:37pm

My newspaper has an article up about Jane Raybould (D), who is running to replace Senator Deb Fischer (R).

They go into her “kitchen table” campaign, though the newspaper doesn’t note she’s a Democrat until about seven paragraphs in.

starherald.com (more)

SCOTTSBLUFF — The kitchen table is often the center for family discussion and decision-making.

It’s under this premise Jane Raybould of Lincoln, has aptly named her multi-city listening tour as a challenger to incumbent Republican Deb Fischer for her U.S. Senate seat.

“Families come together, they work out problems and discuss issues — they balance budgets — around the kitchen table,” Raybould said. “They try to work together, and celebrate a lot of things in their lives around those kitchen tables.”

Raybould said it’s those discussions she hopes to gain insight into, in order to learn how she might better serve the people of the state if elected.

From healthcare, trade, and tax reform proposals, to the worries of farmers, ranchers and main street business owners, Raybould said she wants to be a Senator who actively listens to the average Nebraskan.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 14, 2017 • 9:44:53pm

re: #163 retired cynic

Not just urban. I work online, and have to have a pretty highly priced satellite internet service in order to do so.

Oh no doubt. And yeah when I telecommute I need to be online too.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 14, 2017 • 9:48:27pm

Getting rid of NN will impact a lot of things that none of these free market purists ever considered. There’s a reason why I like their focus on theory to expense of reality to Marxists.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 14, 2017 • 9:48:39pm

re: #166 HappyWarrior

Oh no doubt. And yeah when I telecommute I need to be online too.

Is telecommuting like regular commuting around here (sand and gravel roads)? /s

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retired cynic  Dec 14, 2017 • 9:49:20pm

re: #166 HappyWarrior

Oh no doubt. And yeah when I telecommute I need to be online too.

I meant to add that I am a l-o-n-g way out in the country. The coyotes are singing quite loudly all around the house tonight. The cats and I are firmly inside, warm and listening to the music.

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The Major  Dec 14, 2017 • 9:49:26pm

re: #162 teleskiguy

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 14, 2017 • 9:53:06pm

That’s nice …

When I punch Jane Raybould’s name into a search engine, the top entry is a paid advert for Deb Fischer’s reëlection Website.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 14, 2017 • 9:56:23pm

re: #169 retired cynic

I meant to add that I am a l-o-n-g way out in the country. The coyotes are singing quite loudly all around the house tonight. The cats and I are firmly inside, warm and listening to the music.

Sounds comfy.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 14, 2017 • 10:06:11pm

re: #169 retired cynic

I meant to add that I am a l-o-n-g way out in the country. The coyotes are singing quite loudly all around the house tonight. The cats and I are firmly inside, warm and listening to the music.

“The country” for me is two blocks away. Of course you can’t get more than three blocks from the country here… .

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 14, 2017 • 10:06:22pm

Just got back from seeing the Last Jedi.

While still better than the prequels, I found this one somewhat derivative in many aspects and underwhelming compared to Force Awakens. Some characters were severely lacking backstory and there were really no major twists. Some nice set pieces and fun action sequences though.

I’d say more but I don’t want to spoil anything.

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sagehen  Dec 14, 2017 • 10:10:07pm

re: #64 Stanley Sea

I have Spectrum (formerly Time Warner) there’s always tier pricing for speed.

I pay max, my company reimburses partial.

Seems like nothing new with tiered pricing. Are you sure this is new Anymouse?

Your tiers are you pay $x/MB, no matter the content.
Without NN, they can make content they approve of move faster than content they don’t approve of. Maybe Netflix pays them to throttle Hulu, Spotify pays them to throttle Pandora, Fox pays them to throttle dKos and MediaMatters…

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 14, 2017 • 10:12:32pm

Interesting …

speedtest.net will not load here anymore.

The site just returns “an error occurred while loading. Please try again and let us know if it happens again.”

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freetoken  Dec 14, 2017 • 10:17:45pm

re: #176 Anymouse 🌹

Ookla has a downloadable app that is now the preferred method.

At least for my Mac.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 14, 2017 • 10:19:14pm

Well, using a different browser, I get a download speed of 8.57 Mbps, and an upload speed of 720 kbps.

CenturyLink calls this “high speed Internet.”

Electronic Frontier Foundation explains why tech firms like Google or Facebook actually won’t do much to fight this: primarily because they can afford to pay off companies to provide them with good service. They have no incentive to pay for future competition by start up firms.

A Lump of Coal for the Internet’s Stocking

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 14, 2017 • 10:23:04pm
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freetoken  Dec 14, 2017 • 10:23:11pm

re: #178 Anymouse 🌹

Just tried my standalone Speedtest app (it really is better than the online version): 33.8Mbs down, 5.78Mbs up. I pay Cox $80/mo for this.

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retired cynic  Dec 14, 2017 • 10:24:00pm

re: #177 freetoken

Just tested my satellite connection: 11.07Mbps down, .8Mbps up. Thanks for the ookla reference!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 14, 2017 • 10:24:37pm

re: #180 freetoken

People in Europe mock us for this.

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retired cynic  Dec 14, 2017 • 10:24:54pm

re: #180 freetoken

Just tried my standalone Speedtest app (it really is better than the online version): 33.8Mbs down, 5.78Mbs up. I pay Cox $80/mo for this.

I pay a lot more than that for my satellite connection! A lot.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 14, 2017 • 10:26:09pm

re: #180 freetoken

Just tried my standalone Speedtest app (it really is better than the online version): 33.8Mbs down, 5.78Mbs up. I pay Cox $80/mo for this.

Well, part of my problem is my ISP is actually in Jefferson City, Missouri (at least, that’s how I show up every time I go to a Website with a little widget for “local weather” or time, or when I do the speed test).

Jefferson city is six hundred miles from here.

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freetoken  Dec 14, 2017 • 10:26:25pm

re: #182 Eclectic Cyborg

People in Europe mock us for this.

Higher density populations can amortize cable costs per house better.

In Japan 11 years ago I got high speed internet for like $11/month. Put simply, every address in a city has multiple cables running to it.

It’s hard to convince Americans that we are not the best at everything.

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sagehen  Dec 14, 2017 • 10:32:45pm

re: #129 The Major

And it’s these same eejets who forget how woman was created by God himself: From the rib of Adam - Not from the top, not from the bottom of Adam: but from THE SIDE OF ADAM.

Christ on a pony - these fuckers don’t even understand Genesis for damn’s sake.

That’s one of the versions in Genesis.

In the other, man and woman were BOTH sculpted in mud, then life breathed into both of them simultaneously.

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allegro  Dec 14, 2017 • 10:35:59pm

re: #186 sagehen

That’s one of the versions in Genesis.

In the other, man and woman were BOTH sculpted in mud, then life breathed into both of them simultaneously.

Was that Lilith? Who when told she was supposed to submit to Adam was all fuck that shit?

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freetoken  Dec 14, 2017 • 10:36:31pm

We can hope that the GOP loses the midterms big, Trump crashes and goes away (maybe to prison???)

Then perhaps some laws with teeth can be enacted, ensuring basic things like competition and even playing fields in digital services.

Likely states are going to act first, but a Trump/Pence administration will side with the big corporations in lawsuits to throw out any laws.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 14, 2017 • 10:36:55pm

re: #187 allegro

Was that Lilith? Who when told she was supposed to submit to Adam was all fuck that shit?

No, the story in Gen. 2 is the alternate story of the creation of Eve.

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retired cynic  Dec 14, 2017 • 10:37:24pm

re: #186 sagehen

That’s one of the versions in Genesis.

In the other, man and woman were BOTH sculpted in mud, then life breathed into both of them simultaneously.

I bet they don’t show that one at the Answers in Genesis theme park!

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 14, 2017 • 10:42:38pm

Lilith is in the Midrash.

As far as the Bible is concerned:

Lilith is referred to only once in the Old Testament. In the Darby translation of Isaiah 34:14 the original Hebrew word is rendered as “lilith”; according to Isaiah, when God’s vengeance has turned the land into a wilderness, “there shall the beasts of the desert meet with the jackals, and the wild goat shall cry to his fellow; the lilith also shall settle there, and find for herself a place of rest.” The same word is translated elsewhere, however, as “screech owl, “night creatures,” “night monsters,” and “night hag.”

Eve and the Identity of Women Chapter 7: Eve and Lilith

The whole Website is a fascinating read on the Bible being used as justification for making women subservient. (I keep these little anti-apologetics Websites available in my stable of bookmarks)

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teleskiguy  Dec 14, 2017 • 10:43:52pm
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retired cynic  Dec 14, 2017 • 10:46:06pm

re: #193 teleskiguy

*gulp*

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allegro  Dec 14, 2017 • 10:53:13pm

re: #192 Anymouse 🌹

Lilith is in the Midrash.

As far as the Bible is concerned:

Eve and the Identity of Women Chapter 7: Eve and Lilith

The whole Website is a fascinating read on the Bible being used as justification for making women subservient. (I keep these little anti-apologetics Websites available in my stable of bookmarks)

My biblical studies were aborted when at age 10 I was uninvited to Methodist confirmation class. The contradictions made mah li’l budding brainz ache so I apparently asked too many questions to try to ease the cognitive dissonance. On the way out of the church where my parents had The Meeting with the minister, my dad patted me on the back and said “Good girl, I’m proud of you”. Took me a few years to realize he didn’t just say that to make me feel better.

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JordanRules  Dec 14, 2017 • 10:59:04pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 14, 2017 • 11:04:35pm

re: #195 allegro

My biblical studies were aborted when at age 10 I was uninvited to Methodist confirmation class. The contradictions made mah li’l budding brainz ache so I apparently asked too many questions to try to ease the cognitive dissonance. On the way out of the church where my parents had The Meeting with the minister, my dad patted me on the back and said “Good girl, I’m proud of you”. Took me a few years to realize he didn’t just say that to make me feel better.

When I was living with my grandparents, they required me to attend the United Methodist Church in my village as long as I was living with them.

I was banned from the Sunday School classes for asking the wrong questions. (My atheism was already in play by the time we moved in when I was seven or so.)

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The Major  Dec 14, 2017 • 11:06:54pm

re: #186 sagehen

That’s one of the versions in Genesis.

In the other, man and woman were BOTH sculpted in mud, then life breathed into both of them simultaneously.

Ok, now ya got me curious - which version of Genesis is the latter in ?

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Dec 14, 2017 • 11:10:18pm

re: #198 The Major

Ok, now ya got me curious - which version of Genesis is the latter in ?

Genesis 1:26-28.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 14, 2017 • 11:12:42pm

Genesis 1 has men and women created at the same time, and presumably equal.

27 So God created mankind in his own image,
in the image of God he created them;
male and female he created them.

28 God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground.”

(NIV)

Genesis 2-3 has the longer “Eve came from Adam’s rib” story (also, Eve was only named after the so-called “fall”).

Mediæval art, literature, and church officials stressed the second story (Genesis 2-3) and largely ignores the first story (Genesis 1).

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 14, 2017 • 11:14:49pm

(fixed above comment for correct version of the unchanging Bible… .)

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 14, 2017 • 11:19:01pm

Skeptic’s Annotated Bible On-Line details all the problems of Genesis 1 with the alternative story in Genesis 2-3 in its commentary section on the right hand side of the page. SAB is a King James Version of the Bible.

skepticsannotatedbible.com (SAB, Genesis 1)

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teleskiguy  Dec 14, 2017 • 11:21:05pm

If you’re a comedy consumer, this is a great podcast to digest.

Iframe

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 14, 2017 • 11:33:24pm

Juanita Jean’s:

Blake Farenthold Calling It Quits.

In all honesty, I know he was just trying to avoid an investigation, but you have to hand him this - it’s the first decent thing he’s ever done in his life.

I have a friend, La Lisa Hernandez, in Corpus, Blake’s district, who replied to a Facebook comment of mine …

I’m seriously considering a conversion to Judaism!! First day of Hanukkah… Moore loses!! Second day… Omarosa gets dragged from the White House!! Third day… Blake’s OUT!!!

She makes a good point.

juanitajean.com

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freetoken  Dec 14, 2017 • 11:33:28pm

I hate working with character data when writing software.

Always have.

And people input such strange characters in data fields. They get the crazy idea that inserting single or double quotes, braces, or some wacky ISO character is useful in identifying their object of interest.

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teleskiguy  Dec 14, 2017 • 11:38:19pm
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teleskiguy  Dec 14, 2017 • 11:40:33pm

“We can’t ski because it snowed” is a thing.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 14, 2017 • 11:44:42pm

Turns out Blake Farenthold cannot withdraw from the next election due to deadlines in Texas.

texasmonthly.com

Amid allegations of sexual harassment, payoffs, and rude behavior, U.S. Representative Blake Farenthold of Corpus Christi announced today that he is withdrawing from his campaign for re-election. The problem is that the Republican congressman can’t.

I asked Sam Taylor with the Texas Secretary of State’s Office if Farenthold could withdraw since the candidate filing deadline passed on Monday. “No,” Taylor replied. “Barring a successful challenge to the candidate’s application before the mail-in ballots go out in late January, his name will still be on the ballot for the March 6 primary.”

(more)

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majii  Dec 14, 2017 • 11:55:27pm

re: #197 Anymouse 🌹

“When I was living with my grandparents, they required me to attend the United Methodist Church in my village as long as I was living with them. I was banned from the Sunday School classes for asking the wrong questions. (My atheism was already in play by the time we moved in when I was seven or so.”)

Something tells me you’ve always been a mess, Anymouse. This is not a diss, it’s a compliment for having had an inquiring mind from an early age. I wish some of the students I taught had had the same critical thinking skills you possess. I really tried to teach them critical thinking skills. Some learned them, some rejected them because as teens at the age of 16, they’d been fully indoctrinated by their parents, ministers, community leaders, local media, and RW radio and TV [Fox is on nearly every channel in every home, public facility and business place in Middle GA, from doctors’ offices and hospital waiting rooms to car repair shops.

I remember teaching a lesson on the separation, balance of powers, and checks and balances in the three branches of government, thoroughly covering each branch. After I completed the lesson after a week, one of my students approached me and said that although the textbook said one thing, he and his dad were dedicated Limbaugh consumers, so he believed Limbaugh’s rantings more than I who was certified to teach the material.

This is the kind of thing we’re up against, and it’s being passed down from one generation to another, and here in GA, it’s strongly tied to religion. Never mind that it’s easy for some of us to notice the hypocrisy, and although we speak against it, it persists. It’s like a kind of major, widespread brain-washing has taken place. I’ve also noticed that generally accepted false memes and beliefs have a strong hold over the minds of way too many Georgians, and Americans. They’re being bilked by politicians, radio personalities, RW blogs, and Fox, and don’t seem to be the least bit concerned about the damage they’re doing to themselves, their families, and our democracy. I was reared to think for myself, not follow the crowd, and to reach my own conclusions on all issues. I can’t describe the frustration and pain I feel quite often when I hear some others here parrot RW talking points that will not improve their lives one iota and then realize that they really believe them.

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freetoken  Dec 15, 2017 • 12:03:24am

I have concluded that pineapple is the enemy of all good palates everywhere. It just doesn’t play nice with other foods.

Not only is pineapple not for pizza, it’s not for anything.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 15, 2017 • 12:03:32am

re: #209 majii

On the inquiring mind part, I do have my mother to thank for that.

As for the rest, all I can say is propaganda is a helluva drug. It is difficult to fix, which is why it is such a seductive tool to use when you want to control a populace. Thirty years or more of it creates a generation of people who will not think critically.

The culmination of that seems to be Donald Trump saying in a speech that you should only listen to him.

If we don’t get the damn “both sides are evil” and “voting for the lesser of two evils” people to get off that position in the next election, we will have a much worse problem than we have now.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 15, 2017 • 12:05:29am

re: #210 freetoken

I have concluded that pineapple is the enemy of all good palates everywhere. It just doesn’t play nice with other foods.

Not only is pineapple not for pizza, it’s not for anything.

[sharpens knives]

I like pineapple, even on pizza. Anchovies I can do without (apparently they are a libertarian thing, since my wife loves those little %£@@!!!#! fish)

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Semper Fi  Dec 15, 2017 • 12:11:42am

re: #200 Anymouse 🌹

Genesis 1 has men and women created at the same time, and presumably equal.

(NIV)

Genesis 2-3 has the longer “Eve came from Adam’s rib” story (also, Eve was only named after the so-called “fall”).

Mediæval art, literature, and church officials stressed the second story (Genesis 2-3) and largely ignores the first story (Genesis 1).

Yes, those verses gave me difficulty. Then, I changed my thinking and decided it made sense provided I attributed ch 1 to Man’s creation before Adam and Eve. This allowed me to justify Cain’s wife as coming from this earlier creation.
There was more to the Ch 2 creation as this was God’s man. It is the man God breathed life into and became a living soul. Now the remaining dilemma is: Was the Garden of Eden also a place of protection from animals and/or possibly from this earlier creation of man.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 15, 2017 • 12:12:17am

re: #201 Anymouse 🌹

(fixed above comment for correct version of the unchanging Bible… .)

Remember that if you insist on a literal interpretation of the Bible, you not only have to reject science and history, you have to reject logic and reason, as the Bible contradicts itself in numerous places.

And we all know what the sleep of reason produces…

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majii  Dec 15, 2017 • 12:12:40am

“Not only is pineapple not for pizza, it’s not for anything.”

Pineapple upside-down cake is delicious, though, but because of my diabetes, I can’t eat it anymore. My mom and grandmother could bake some of the best upside down cakes! Yummy! I’ve never had pineapple on pizza, and like you, I don’t think I’d like it. I usually put sausage, ground beef, pepperoni, green peppers, onions, and mushrooms on the homemade pizzas I make. I’ve recently begun trying my hand at deep dish pizza. The one I prepared a couple weeks ago was delicious. I found a recipe for pizza sauce and made it from scratch in my cast iron frying pan. It made all the difference in the way the pie tasted, so I will no longer be buying prepared pizza sauce.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 15, 2017 • 12:12:57am

re: #203 teleskiguy

If you’re a comedy consumer, this is a great podcast to digest.

I must admit that I cannot find Trump jokes funny anymore.

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Semper Fi  Dec 15, 2017 • 12:17:25am

re: #215 majii

“Not only is pineapple not for pizza, it’s not for anything.”

Pineapple upside-down cake is delicious, though, but because of my diabetes, I can’t eat it anymore. My mom and grandmother could bake some of the best upside down cakes! Yummy! I’ve never had pineapple on pizza, and like you, I don’t think I’d like it. I usually put sausage, ground beef, pepperoni, green peppers, onions, and mushrooms on the homemade pizzas I make. I’ve recently begun trying my hand at deep dish pizza. The one I prepared a couple weeks ago was delicious. I found a recipe for pizza sauce and made it from scratch in my cast iron frying pan. It made all the difference in the way the pie tasted, so I will no longer be buying prepared pizza sauce.

The upside-down is my all time favorite.

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teleskiguy  Dec 15, 2017 • 12:18:17am

re: #215 majii

Do you have a pizza stone? If not, treat yourself this X-Mas and get one. Homemade pizza perfection.

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teleskiguy  Dec 15, 2017 • 12:21:38am

re: #216 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I must admit that I cannot find Trump jokes funny anymore.

You need to watch more Vic Berger videos!

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majii  Dec 15, 2017 • 12:22:59am

re: #218 teleskiguy

I’ve been looking at them for a while now, and with your recommendation, I will buy one soon.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 15, 2017 • 12:23:54am

re: #213 Semper Fi

Yes, those verses gave me difficulty. Then, I changed my thinking and decided it made sense provided I attributed ch 1 to Man’s creation before Adam and Eve. This allowed me to justify Cain’s wife as coming from this earlier creation.
There was more to the Ch 2 creation as this was God’s man. It is the man God breathed life into and became a living soul. Now the remaining dilemma is: Was the Garden of Eden also a place of protection from animals and/or possibly from this earlier creation of man.

That’s a way to think about the story I haven’t heard before.

That leaves a few questions though: Where did those two people go? Why would people need protection from animals if God is omnipotent? The Bible doesn’t say where Cain’s wife came from (therefore one can only apply apologetics to the problem, aside from the issues of the origins of the Bible itself). There was no one around to observe either version of the creation story, and we do not know who wrote the stories down (and who edited them afterwards), &c.

Moreover, Genesis 1 has the problems of light being created before light producing objects (stars) were created (and at the end of that day as an afterthought creates about 600 sextillion stars), &c.

1:30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so. (KJV) - pretty bad advice since there are a great many plants that are poisonous.

The whole story has insurmountable problems that can only be solved by people explaining what is supposedly God’s word. An omniscient god would not need people to explain his words.

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teleskiguy  Dec 15, 2017 • 12:26:26am

re: #220 majii

I’ve had a number of dinner parties where I make a big glob of dough and a bowl of sauce and a big bag of mozzarella cheese and all the fixins and I just make little pizzas for the guests, whatever they want, and they bake *real good* on the pizza stone.

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majii  Dec 15, 2017 • 12:29:22am

re: #222 teleskiguy

I checked out the Amazon link. The reviews, in general, are good. I always read the reviews before purchasing items. I like the idea that some reviewers said they use the stone to cook other items, too. I’ll use Charles’ link when I buy it.

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teleskiguy  Dec 15, 2017 • 12:31:30am

re: #223 majii

Nice thing about clicking the link I provided, it goes right to the LGF Amazon link. Anytime an Amazon link is posted in the comments it’ll go right to the LGF Amazon thingy. Charles is a code wizard like that.

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freetoken  Dec 15, 2017 • 12:39:44am

Pineapple is the enemy of mankind.

It may not be high on that list (like tuberculosis, or Donald Trump), but it’s on the list.

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teleskiguy  Dec 15, 2017 • 12:40:37am

re: #225 freetoken

Someone’s deploying heavy artillery.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 15, 2017 • 12:46:53am

re: #225 freetoken

Pineapple is the enemy of mankind.

It may not be high on that list (like tuberculosis, or Donald Trump), but it’s on the list.

I have latent tuberculosis. It is far less a danger than Donald Trump.

And pineapple is ambrosia in Hawaiian form.

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teleskiguy  Dec 15, 2017 • 12:52:53am

My favorite kind of pizza is the ‘Hawaiian’ variety. I do Canadian bacon, jalapeños, and [GAH] pineapple. That’s a good fuckin’ pizza.

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Semper Fi  Dec 15, 2017 • 12:58:45am

re: #221 Anymouse 🌹

That’s a way to think about the story I haven’t heard before.

That leaves a few questions though: Where did those two people go? Why would people need protection from animals if God is omnipotent? The Bible doesn’t say where Cain’s wife came from (therefore one can only apply apologetics to the problem, aside from the issues of the origins of the Bible itself). There was no one around to observe either version of the creation story, and we do not know who wrote the stories down (and who edited them afterwards), &c.

Moreover, Genesis 1 has the problems of light being created before light producing objects (stars) were created (and at the end of that day as an afterthought creates about 600 sextillion stars), &c.

1:30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so. (KJV) - pretty bad advice since there are a great many plants that are poisonous.

The whole story has insurmountable problems that can only be solved by people explaining what is supposedly God’s word. An omniscient god would not need people to explain his words.

The two just multiplied in that (G of E) location.

Animals? You’re right. I only remember there was a snake.

Cain’s wife came from someplace so I’ll say people already existed. They may have liked climbing trees a lot but Cain was a guy.

Light created ‘before’ a light source was created is, to me, indicative of the an author’s inaccuracy due to inexperience. Genesis was his first book.

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Cheechako  Dec 15, 2017 • 1:00:13am

re: #223 majii

I checked out the Amazon link. The reviews, in general, are good. I always read the reviews before purchasing items. I like the idea that some reviewers said they use the stone to cook other items, too. I’ll use Charles’ link when I buy it.

Don’t forget to get a pizza peel along with the pizza stone. Makes taking the pizza in and out of the oven much easier.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 15, 2017 • 1:01:16am

re: #221 Anymouse 🌹

That’s a way to think about the story I haven’t heard before.

That leaves a few questions though: Where did those two people go? Why would people need protection from animals if God is omnipotent? The Bible doesn’t say where Cain’s wife came from (therefore one can only apply apologetics to the problem, aside from the issues of the origins of the Bible itself). There was no one around to observe either version of the creation story, and we do not know who wrote the stories down (and who edited them afterwards), &c.

Moreover, Genesis 1 has the problems of light being created before light producing objects (stars) were created (and at the end of that day as an afterthought creates about 600 sextillion stars), &c.

1:30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so. (KJV) - pretty bad advice since there are a great many plants that are poisonous.

The whole story has insurmountable problems that can only be solved by people explaining what is supposedly God’s word. An omniscient god would not need people to explain his words.

Teh God would have just implanted all the knowledge stuff in our brains at birth, so there would be no room for debate.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 15, 2017 • 1:12:02am

re: #229 Semper Fi

The two just multiplied in that (G of E) location.

Animals? You’re right. I only remember there was a snake.

Cain’s wife came from someplace so I’ll say people already existed. They may have liked climbing trees a lot but Cain was a guy.

Light created ‘before’ a light source was created is, to me, indicative of the an author’s inaccuracy due to inexperience. Genesis was his first book.

From what I remember from a Bible as Literature class I took ages ago, the current version of Genesis is an amalgam of different oral source material plus some extra stuff added later to stitch it all into some kind of narrative. So, we have two versions of the creation of Adam and Eve, because there were a least that many oral traditions floating around. IIRC the Torah was codified during the Babylonian Exile (8th Century BC?) while the various creation stories were around much longer.

As for Cain’s wife, one interpretation is that Genesis is only about the creation of the Hebrews and Cain’s wife was from another population group. Another (more far fetched, but popular among fundies) is that the angels or the nephilim came down to make whoopee with teh humanz, thus giving the early humanz really long life spans.

It’s also important to remember there were other religions around during that time, and the early Hebrews were trying to establish themselves as a people and rebuild as a nation. A lot of the OT can be read as public relations material (or propaganda) to tell the Hebrews how to be Jewish (aka Yahweh worshipers, as opposed to El, Baal or Asherah worshipers).

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Semper Fi  Dec 15, 2017 • 1:12:29am

re: #231 wheat-dogg

Teh God would have just implanted all the knowledge stuff in our brains at birth, so there would be no room for debate.

Maybe G-d just wanted to see what man would do. What choices do we make.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 15, 2017 • 1:13:50am

re: #233 Semper Fi

Maybe G-d just wanted to see what man would do. What choices do we make.

Like a VR game, but with real people instead of sims.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 15, 2017 • 1:19:21am

re: #228 teleskiguy

My favorite kind of pizza is the ‘Hawaiian’ variety. I do Canadian bacon, jalapeños, and [GAH] pineapple. That’s a good fuckin’ pizza.

May I sign up for your newsletter?

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Semper Fi  Dec 15, 2017 • 1:25:25am

re: #232 wheat-dogg

From what I remember from a Bible as Literature class I took ages ago, the current version of Genesis is an amalgam of different oral source material plus some extra stuff added later to stitch it all into some kind of narrative. So, we have two versions of the creation of Adam and Eve, because there were a least that many oral traditions floating around. IIRC the Torah was codified during the Babylonian Exile (8th Century BC?) while the various creation stories were around much longer.

As for Cain’s wife, one interpretation is that Genesis is only about the creation of the Hebrews and Cain’s wife was from another population group. Another (more far fetched, but popular among fundies) is that the angels or the nephilim came down to make whoopee with teh humanz, thus giving the early humanz really long life spans.

It’s also important to remember there were other religions around during that time, and the early Hebrews were trying to establish themselves as a people and rebuild as a nation. A lot of the OT can be read as public relations material (or propaganda) to tell the Hebrews how to be Jewish (aka Yahweh worshipers, as opposed to El, Baal or Asherah worshipers).

Thanks for the reminder. I truly enjoyed that “Bible as Literature” class may decades ago. Also, there was another I was particularly fond of: “Art as History.” But that’s OT.

Genesis 1 & 2 have always puzzled me.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 15, 2017 • 1:25:58am

re: #231 wheat-dogg

Teh God would have just implanted all the knowledge stuff in our brains at birth, so there would be no room for debate.

That would take away Christianity’s “free will” argument (you freely choose to send yourself to Hell - by the way not described in the Bible).

Of course that little bit of apologetics fails on cursory examination as well.

For example, killing (or in some apologetics arguments trying to explain the X Commandments, murder) is a sin.

It’s not God’s will that you might commit a murder (funny how rape isn’t in the X Commandments, but I digress), and therefore through your own free will you send yourself to hell with such a sin (never mind the ten picked out are arbitrary, and there are about 523 commandments, Hail Eris).

Presumably, the victim of such a murder exercised his or her free will to be murdered.

Moreover, if you sincerely and honestly accept (based on the various ten thousand sects of Christianity “accept”) the teachings of Jesus, you go to Heaven.

If the victim of said murder was a good, moral Muslim, Jew, Hindu, atheist, Shinto, whatever, that person is bound for Hell, even if that person never heard of the Bible.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 15, 2017 • 1:32:28am

Interestingly, a good chunk of the Old Testament (referred to as propaganda for Yahweh above) is devoted to the Hebrews (or at least Hebrew women) constantly backsliding into worship of Ashtoreth (or Astarte), the Queen of Heaven and protector of women.

Those old Hebrew patriarchs couldn’t have women (or female gods) as equals, so the Old Testament constantly shows them stomping out worship of Astarte every time she comes up.

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Teukka  Dec 15, 2017 • 1:37:10am

re: #193 teleskiguy

*gulp*

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Okay, so my ass just puckered well o.o

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Semper Fi  Dec 15, 2017 • 1:58:22am

Genesis 1 & 2 have plagued me for some time…just makes no sense (for me). Thus, I do my own ‘stitching’ as Wheat-Dogg said of the current version.

Gonna say g’nite now.

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teleskiguy  Dec 15, 2017 • 2:05:25am

My only Instagram post of the Jackson Hole ski area. I still want to jump into this fucking thing and ski away with the biggest shit-eating grin.

Instagram

Bottom of Corbet’s Couloir. Alas, I couldn’t ski it, patrol wouldn’t let me. :(

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 15, 2017 • 2:12:28am

I’m off to bed y’all. A week before winter, and it will be 51F tomorrow.

Plumber will be here (again, he was here today and earlier in the week) to replace the iron sewer line in my house installed when the house was first plumbed for a bathroom in the Fifties. (One end of the line was not supported, and over sixty years gravity has caused it to sag, causing wastewater in my bathroom not to go down correctly.)

Pity my poor checking account. (Ch-ching! another thousand dollars… .) At least they aren’t charging to come sixty miles out to my house (with a project like this… .)

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 15, 2017 • 2:24:26am

My wife is ragging on me for mixing Port wine with lime Kool-Aid … she says it looks like a kindergartener mixing watercolours.

G’night y’all … Do Teleskiguys dream of electric snow?

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freetoken  Dec 15, 2017 • 3:24:17am

Pineapple is proof that god does not exist.

Regex, on the other hand, does prove there is a devil.

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weave  Dec 15, 2017 • 3:36:10am

Here’s one very real and possible way that Net Neutrality will bite those in the ass who most supported it.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 15, 2017 • 3:39:09am
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 15, 2017 • 3:42:44am

Morning Lizardim.

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dell*nix  Dec 15, 2017 • 3:48:01am

re: #129 The Major

Eve was the first trans-gendered person. A rib from a male converted to female. Talk about a narrow genetic base.

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 15, 2017 • 3:58:02am

This article contains an epic takedown of Bill Mitchell’s racist conspiracy theory that George Soros paid to send hundreds of bus loads of Mississippi African-Americans to vote in Tuesday’s election.

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Shropshire Slasher  Dec 15, 2017 • 4:30:19am

I need to invent a better windshield wiper.

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 15, 2017 • 4:35:25am

re: #161 HappyWarrior

Unfortunately that’s not the case here. Conservatives seem to be viewing the internet as akin to a game console or tv when it’s more close to a utility especially in more urban areas.

It’s tubes, a bunch of tubes

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 15, 2017 • 4:37:29am

re: #168 Anymouse 🌹

Is telecommuting like regular commuting around here (sand and gravel roads)? /s

May turn out to be in the long run.

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Dr. Matt  Dec 15, 2017 • 4:58:10am
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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 15, 2017 • 4:59:26am
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Dr. Matt  Dec 15, 2017 • 5:04:14am

Morning chuckle

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HappyWarrior  Dec 15, 2017 • 5:12:47am

re: #254 The Vicious Babushka

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They’re not even hiding anymore that they’re propaganda.

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jeffreyw  Dec 15, 2017 • 5:12:51am

Imgur
Good morning!

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HappyWarrior  Dec 15, 2017 • 5:15:09am

Economy was doing well under Obama. FNC says nothing while Trump claims the country is in the shitter.

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 15, 2017 • 5:25:06am

re: #258 HappyWarrior

Economy was doing well under Obama. FNC says nothing while Trump claims the country is in the shitter.

And now we have basically the same economy, and they claim its booming thanks to Trump.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 15, 2017 • 5:26:54am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 15, 2017 • 5:41:43am

re: #259 Big Beautiful Door

And now we have basically the same economy, and they claim its booming thanks to Trump.

Exactly.

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 15, 2017 • 5:48:36am

re: #208 Anymouse 🌹

Turns out Blake Farenthold cannot withdraw from the next election due to deadlines in Texas.

texasmonthly.com

(more)

So an empty gesture that he knew couldn’t happen.

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William Lewis  Dec 15, 2017 • 6:04:40am

re: #236 Semper Fi

Thanks for the reminder. I truly enjoyed that “Bible as Literature” class may decades ago. Also, there was another I was particularly fond of: “Art as History.” But that’s OT.

Genesis 1 & 2 have always puzzled me.

Why? 2 completely different myths that were part of two separate traditions that were put together to help bind the people of those two traditions together. Both make reasonable pre-scientific understandings of the creation. It’s only later when you get ignorant fundamentalists pushing literal interpretation of the bible that it becomes an issue.

Accepting the creation as myth does not imply anything about the belief in God any more than accepting the very divergent descriptions of Christ’s birth in the beginnings of Luke & Matthew. Love the way different genealogies, for example, since one needs him to descend from Moses while the other needs him to descend from King David. I understand this without losing my belief in an itinerant, somewhat apocalyptic, healer & possibly divinely inspired rabbi in central Palestine some two thousand years ago.

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 15, 2017 • 6:08:36am

Alabama’s “inactive” voter scheme is illegal, but there’s no chance in Hell that Sessions DOJ will investigate it.

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makeitstop  Dec 15, 2017 • 6:13:29am

Seems appropriate.

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 15, 2017 • 6:14:33am

James Alex Fields white nationalist is now being charged with first degree murder. He could, and imo should get life in prison.
bbc.com

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William Lewis  Dec 15, 2017 • 6:19:16am

re: #266 Unshaken Defiance

James Alex Fields white nationalist is now being charged with first degree murder. He could, and imo should get life in prison.
bbc.com

I believe that the charge increase was determined by the judge &, IIUC, must be confirmed by a new indictment by a grand jury before the charge is actually changed. At least that was the understanding I got from NPR.

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Belafon  Dec 15, 2017 • 6:19:35am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 15, 2017 • 6:21:51am

re: #268 Belafon

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Well here we go.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 15, 2017 • 6:23:00am

I’m sure it’s been posted multiple times (I’ve fallen behind), but it’s worth remembering again and again:

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makeitstop  Dec 15, 2017 • 6:26:23am

I don’t know if this was posted overnight, but if you’re looking for news on an imminent indictment, be careful where you click.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 15, 2017 • 6:27:53am

re: #270 Barefoot Grin

I’m sure it’s been posted multiple times (I’ve fallen behind), but it’s worth remembering again and again:

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The bigger challenge would be Trump telling the truth.

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A Mom Anon  Dec 15, 2017 • 6:33:39am

re: #111 teleskiguy

I love this picture, it has many of my favorite people in it.

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 15, 2017 • 6:33:52am

re: #267 William Lewis

It would be quite surprising if the new charge did not hold up for trial.

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Belafon  Dec 15, 2017 • 6:35:18am

re: #123 Anymouse 🌹

Cue cries of socialism …

You know, socialism probably wouldn’t exist as an economic model if capitalism didn’t work so hard to collect all the economic cookies for a few powerful people.

Socialism exists because we decided capitalism was a goal rather than a tool.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 15, 2017 • 6:36:32am

re: #275 Belafon

Socialism exists because we decided capitalism was a goal rather than a tool.

Exactly.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 15, 2017 • 6:41:52am

Here he goes again. Moments ago, before leaving for Quantico, says that “it’s been proven there was no collusion…. It’s a scam costing millions of dollars….and when you look at the other side, Hillary, you’ll be amazed at what’s been found.”

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 15, 2017 • 6:43:32am

‘Call with Vladimir Putin? It was great he said some very nice things about what I’m doing for this country and some not so nice things about other things.’

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HappyWarrior  Dec 15, 2017 • 6:43:38am

re: #277 Barefoot Grin

Here he goes again. Moments ago, before leaving for Quantico, says that “it’s been proven there was no collusion…. It’s a scam costing millions of dollars….and when you look at the other side, Hillary, you’ll be amazed at what’s been found.”

This fucking guy. I really want him in jail.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 15, 2017 • 6:44:48am

He lives in an alternative reality.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 15, 2017 • 6:45:13am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 15, 2017 • 6:46:05am

He’s a disgrace and still obstructing the investigation and still obsessed with Hillary.

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William Lewis  Dec 15, 2017 • 6:46:24am

re: #274 Unshaken Defiance

It would be quite surprising if the new charge did not hold up for trial.

That is probably true. That said, until the Grand Jury speaks, the charges remain the same.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 15, 2017 • 6:50:17am

The call to Putin was supposedly about North Korea, but some saying it was actually to say “thank you” for comments Putin made about “spy mania” in America during his annual kiss-ass press conference in Moscow.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Dec 15, 2017 • 6:50:47am

re: #281 The Vicious Babushka

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Hair Furor’s act is wearing thin.

Throw his son in jail, then his son-in-law, then him.

Enough.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 15, 2017 • 6:50:59am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 15, 2017 • 6:51:53am

re: #286 The Vicious Babushka

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Tipping his hand to Mueller.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Dec 15, 2017 • 6:51:59am
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Sea Mexican!  Dec 15, 2017 • 6:52:46am

re: #129 The Major

And it’s these same eejets who forget how woman was created by God himself: From the rib of Adam - Not from the top, not from the bottom of Adam: but from THE SIDE OF ADAM.

Christ on a pony - these fuckers don’t even understand Genesis for damn’s sake.

There’s a character in Good Omens called Shadwell, the ranking officer of the Witchfinder Army, who tries to live and judge by the Bible. Or rather, by the only versicle he actually read and remembers.

These eejets must be related to Shadwell.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2017 • 6:53:57am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2017 • 6:55:58am
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Sea Mexican!  Dec 15, 2017 • 6:57:59am

re: #271 makeitstop

I don’t know if this was posted overnight, but if you’re looking for news on an imminent indictment, be careful where you click.

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Those links seem to head to IFTTT, which is an web automator site…

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 15, 2017 • 7:00:33am

re: #286 The Vicious Babushka

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He’s going to do it.

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danarchy  Dec 15, 2017 • 7:00:42am

Glad to see they are laser focused on the important issues:

Sarah Huckabee Sanders puts piegate to rest

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2017 • 7:05:06am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2017 • 7:10:29am

this is fine…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2017 • 7:13:07am
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makeitstop  Dec 15, 2017 • 7:13:29am

re: #293 Barefoot Grin

He’s going to do it.

And I’d bet that Mueller and AG Schneiderman already have a counter-move ready to go.

Trump telegraphs his punches. Almost too obvious.

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Belafon  Dec 15, 2017 • 7:15:06am

re: #286 The Vicious Babushka

It’s going to be a hoot when he discovers he can’t pardon Flynn for charges by New York.

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makeitstop  Dec 15, 2017 • 7:16:19am

Heh.

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Belafon  Dec 15, 2017 • 7:21:50am

I see the newest tack over at Daily Kos from those intent on helping Trump and Russia (whether they are bots or idiots makes no difference) after the defeat of “Can’t win without the white working class” is “you can’t be mean to them.” Seeing it in a few diaries and responses. Most people aren’t having it.

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makeitstop  Dec 15, 2017 • 7:22:44am

Eminem is a fucking Grade A patriot. This collab with Alicia Keys is astounding.

Eminem - Like Home ft. Alicia Keys (Audio)

Lyrics:

Yeah
Shout to everybody
Who’s been on this trip with me
You don’t have to agree
But if you feel like me

[Verse 1: Eminem]
Someone get this aryan a sheet
Time to bury him, so tell him to prepare to get impeached
Everybody on your feet
This is where is where terrorism and heroism meets, square up in the streets
This chump barely even sleeps
All he does is watch Fox News like a parrot and repeats
While he looks like a canary with a beak
Why you think banned transgenders from the military with a tweet?
He’s trying to divide us, this sh*t’s like a cult
But like Johnny, he’ll only unite us
‘Cuz nothing drives us inside like this fight does
Similar to when two cars collide ‘cause our spirits are crushed
This spot’s a tight one
But here the jaws of life come to pull us from the wreckage
That’s what we get pride from
When we can’t wear stars and stripes ‘cause this type of pickle we’re in is hard to deal
But there’s always tomorrow still
If we start from the scratch like a scab for scars to heal
And band together for Charolettesville
And for heaven’s fallen heroes
Fill his wall with murals, Nevada get up
Hit the damn resetter, let’s start from zero
This is our renewal, spray tan get ride of
Get a brand new, better, America
And here’s to where we’re from

[Chorus: Alicia Keys & Eminem]
This is where it all began, all began (stand up)
Here’s to the land that made me
And made me who I am, who I am (hands up)
Here’s to the land that raised me
There’s home for the only place that really knows me
From the cracks in the road that drove me
There’s no place like home

[Verse 2: Eminem]
Didn’t wanna piss your base off, did ya?
Can’t denounce the klan, ‘cause they play golf with ya
You stay on Twitter, made to get your hate off, Nazi
I do not see a way y’all differ, at all
You got a race card with a swastika with your name carved in it
Then it should be your trademark, all you did is play off
You played off, so I guess it pays to feed off of chaos
So basically, you Adolf Hitler
But you ain’t ruining our country, punk
You won’t take our pride from us
You won’t define us
‘Cause like a dictionary, things are looking up
So much, got a sprained neck
Knew we would rise up
Against this train wreck and take a stand
Even if it mean sitting when they raise the flag
This ain’t the Star Spangled Banner
This man praised a statue of General Lee, ‘cause
He generally hates the black people, degrades hispanics
Take it back to the Shady national convention
Wish I would have spit on him before I went to shake his hand at the event
Or maybe had the wherewithal to know that he was gonna try to
Thought he was gonna tear apart a sacred land
We cherish and stand for, so
Hands in the air, let’s hear it for
The start of a brand new America
Without him, we can be proud of where we’re from
And here’s to where we’re from

[Chorus: Alicia Keys & Eminem]
This is where it all began, all began (stand up)
Here’s to the land that made me
And made me who I am, who I am (hands up)
Here’s to the land that raised me
There’s home for the only place that really knows me
From the cracks in the road that drove me
There’s no place like home

[Bridge: Alicia Keys]
I won’t give up
I won’t give up on my home, that so many died for
You already know that I won’t give up
I won’t give up on my home, that so many died for
You already know there’s no place like home, no place like home
Wherever I go, no place like home
No place like home, no place like home
Wherever I go

[Chorus: Alicia Keys & Eminem]
This is where it all began, all began (stand up)
Here’s to the land that made me
And made me who I am, who I am (hands up)
Here’s to the land that raised me
There’s home for the only place that really knows me
From the cracks in the road that drove me
There’s no place like home

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Dec 15, 2017 • 7:23:33am

SpaceX live:

SpaceX is targeting launch of the Commercial Resupply Services 13 (CRS-13) mission from Launch Complex 40 at Cape Canaveral Air Force station in Florida no earlier than Friday, Dec. 15th at 7:36 a.m. PST, or 15:36 UTC.

This mission marks the first time SpaceX is flying both a flight-proven Falcon 9 and a flight-proven Dragon spacecraft. Falcon 9’s first stage previously supported the CRS-11 mission in June 2017 and the Dragon spacecraft previously supported the CRS-6 mission in April 2015.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 15, 2017 • 7:24:45am

re: #300 makeitstop

Heh.

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My sympathy? None existent after her bs revenge rant.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 15, 2017 • 7:26:00am

re: #302 makeitstop

Eminem is a fucking Grade A patriot. This collab with Alicia Keys is astounding.

[Embedded content]

Lyrics:

Can’t wait to listen when I get home tonight.

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makeitstop  Dec 15, 2017 • 7:31:37am

re: #305 HappyWarrior

Can’t wait to listen when I get home tonight.

It’s amazing. Inspiring.

That kid who once threatened Western Civilization is doing his best to help save it.

And Alicia’s chorus is perfect. Perfect.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 15, 2017 • 7:35:07am

re: #306 makeitstop

It’s amazing. Inspiring.

That kid who once threatened Western Civilization is doing his best to help save it.

And Alicia’s chorus is perfect. Perfect.

Love “like Johnny he’ll only unite us.” Yeah, I’m old.

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JordanRules  Dec 15, 2017 • 7:37:35am

I’m gonna invest in my alternator so I can get to work! Woot!

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makeitstop  Dec 15, 2017 • 7:38:26am

re: #307 Barefoot Grin

Love “like Johnny he’ll only unite us.” Yeah, I’m old.

That slipped by me until I listened the second time.

His mind works on a way different level than mere mortals.

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Romantic Heretic  Dec 15, 2017 • 7:44:09am

re: #161 HappyWarrior

On another forum I hang at someone claimed you could get around ISP blocking by using your cell phone or WiFi.

Their name was “What” which was appropriate because every time I read a post of theirs I said, “What?!”

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HappyWarrior  Dec 15, 2017 • 7:49:54am

re: #310 Romantic Heretic

On another forum I hang at someone claimed you could get around ISP blocking by using your cell phone or WiFi.

Their name was “What” which was appropriate because every time I read a post of theirs I said, “What?!”

What? :)

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I cannot.  Dec 15, 2017 • 7:50:26am

re: #310 Romantic Heretic

I think someone said something to the effect of “blockchain will solve it”…no really.

I wish I was ///

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HappyWarrior  Dec 15, 2017 • 7:50:38am

re: #308 JordanRules

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I’m gonna invest in my alternator so I can get to work! Woot!

So out of touch.

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Belafon  Dec 15, 2017 • 7:55:03am

re: #312 I cannot.

I think someone said something to the effect of “blockchain will solve it”…no really.

I wish I was ///

I expect some ISP to accept bitcoin.

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I cannot.  Dec 15, 2017 • 7:58:37am

re: #314 Belafon

Oh, I’m sure they will.

But no, this was blockchain will somehow prevent throttling or blocking traffic…there was no explanation as to HOW that was supposed to work.

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JordanRules  Dec 15, 2017 • 7:59:06am
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William Lewis  Dec 15, 2017 • 7:59:22am
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John Carter  Dec 15, 2017 • 7:59:58am

re: #122 Dr Lizardo

*Ahem* I think you meant to say public good. :p

Tell that to pornhub.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 15, 2017 • 8:00:33am

re: #316 JordanRules

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Which is why my allies on FNC liken you to the KGB. I know a guy who was in the KGB. He’s great. Not many people know that Vladimir Putin was in the KGB.

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Belafon  Dec 15, 2017 • 8:01:01am

re: #315 I cannot.

Oh, I’m sure they will.

But no, this was blockchain will somehow prevent throttling or blocking traffic…there was no explanation as to HOW that was supposed to work.

I know. I really couldn’t decide on whether to include // or not.

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William Lewis  Dec 15, 2017 • 8:01:14am

re: #316 JordanRules

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The president who won the vote does!

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Dec 15, 2017 • 8:05:22am

re: #316 JordanRules

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Dec 15, 2017 • 8:06:56am
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Belafon  Dec 15, 2017 • 8:08:32am

re: #323 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

As you all know, we have a fascism problem.
Can Doug Jones be arrested, tried, and convicted before taking his seat in the Senate? (Quora)

May I ask, what they think they can arrest him on? I don’t want to click the link at work.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 15, 2017 • 8:08:46am

re: #323 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

As you all know, we have a fascism problem.
Can Doug Jones be arrested, tried, and convicted before taking his seat in the Senate? (Quora)

We charge you with beating our creepy pedo in a state that should be impossible for a Republican to lose, how do you plead?

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 15, 2017 • 8:10:07am

I’m sure everyone in MS-13 is intently listening right now *snerk*

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Dec 15, 2017 • 8:11:53am

re: #281 The Vicious Babushka

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HappyWarrior  Dec 15, 2017 • 8:13:39am

re: #326 The Vicious Babushka

I’m sure everyone in MS-13 is intently listening right now *snerk*

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Scotland gave us your mother so they clearly weren’t giving us their best.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 15, 2017 • 8:18:33am

I found out recently my mom’s uncle could be called a so called anchor baby. Moms grandparents were from Melania’s country so I guess it was “okay.” Not knocking my family just pointing out that slur is only used on children of color.

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ObserverArt  Dec 15, 2017 • 8:21:29am

Oops. That wasn’t ready yet!

Morning…I’m composing a contact message for Jeff Falke. The computer I am using has no spell check so I was using the tools here to check.

Back in a bit. I’m feeling ornery

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The Major  Dec 15, 2017 • 8:23:51am

re: #316 JordanRules

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Dec 15, 2017 • 8:27:20am

re: #324 Belafon

May I ask, what they think they can arrest him on? I don’t want to click the link at work.

They don’t say, and all the answers tell them they’re nuts.
Quora gets a lot of weird questions from the far-right, but they never get the answers they hoped for.

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MsJ  Dec 15, 2017 • 8:29:41am

re: #302 makeitstop

Fuckers won’t let me watch that Eminem video up here. Note even with my VPN.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 15, 2017 • 8:30:50am

re: #116 Anymouse 🌹

Good. We as Americans should want to know what happened in those operations. How many inquiries did we get in regard to Benghazi but Congress seems so ho hum about these failed military exercises.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2017 • 8:31:20am
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ObserverArt  Dec 15, 2017 • 8:35:08am

Okay…I’m in a screw with Republicans mood. So I just sent this message to Jeff Flake after reading a tweet about him up thread from last evening. Hey, I have relatives in Arizona, that covers me for being from Ohio. A lot of people in Arizona are from Ohio.

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makeitstop  Dec 15, 2017 • 8:36:01am

re: #333 MsJ

Fuckers won’t let me watch that Eminem video up here. Note even with my VPN.

Boo! It’s so good. Em in peak form, and Alicia keys with an uplifting chorus very similar to the one in Jay Z’s ‘New York.’

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Belafon  Dec 15, 2017 • 8:36:03am

re: #336 Backwoods_Sleuth

In a basement, with no stairs, with a tiger.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2017 • 8:37:38am
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MsJ  Dec 15, 2017 • 8:39:09am

re: #338 makeitstop

Boo! It’s so good. Em in peak form, and Alicia keys with an uplifting chorus very similar to the one in Jay Z’s ‘New York.’

I love them both. Eminem has a way with lyrics that blow you away. His assonance warms my often semi-illiterate heart.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2017 • 8:40:08am
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Patricia Kayden  Dec 15, 2017 • 8:42:13am

re: #342 Backwoods_Sleuth

Is he talking about his two foreign-born wives? I’m confused.

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dangerman  Dec 15, 2017 • 8:42:53am

my thought for the day:

i was over at politicalwire.com this morning. some folks were discussing the two party system etc. yes, it’s baked in for us, and yes, we need two robust parties.

my thinking is this:

principled opponents are welcome when politics is a clash of value systems, each of which is in some way valid; a competition between basically well-intentioned people who see the world differently.

when it becomes, not even a conflict of interests, but instead an “our team no matter what”, degenerative, brutal struggle for office in which one side with righteous indignation believes *only* the other is and can be capable of behaving despicably while they themselves in fact run roughshod over it all, well then eff em without mercy

elections of late have been contentious and close. no one may claim a runaway mandate. yet senate republicans are behaving like they have a 70 member chamber. they cant get anything done because (1) they dont have 70, and (2) wont recognize there’s another party with virtually half the seats. the fcc vote ignored the huge public position against rescinding neutrality.

further, in both chambers, the r’s are doing everything they can to defame, delegitimized, and make irrelevant the other party (AND by extension the more than half the population they represent) by parliamentary tricks (cf merrick garland, and now doug jones, scheduling, regular order, etc.), biased rule changes, and shutting the door on dems from even participating in crafting legislation.

i am not a pollyanna.
each party at the very least must recognize the other’s right to exist and to be included in the legislative process. of course the minority shouldnt get everything. neither should they get nothing.

at a minimum we need a *functioning* two party system.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 15, 2017 • 8:43:07am

re: #343 Patricia Kayden

Is he talking about his two foreign-born wives? I’m confused.

His mother.

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Belafon  Dec 15, 2017 • 8:43:23am

re: #342 Backwoods_Sleuth

And yet, somehow, a lot of former British colonies turned out ok anyway.

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BeachDem  Dec 15, 2017 • 8:44:29am

re: #288 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 15, 2017 • 8:46:07am

re: #345 The Vicious Babushka

His mother.

Best “Your Mama” joke ever!!

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Interesting Times  Dec 15, 2017 • 8:48:04am

re: #347 BeachDem

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plansbandc  Dec 15, 2017 • 8:51:26am

Hopeful comment about net neutrality in the best of reddit subreddit:

I take some comfort in knowing that this horrible decision will be stuck in the courts for some time, where its opponents will have a very strong argument against implementation.

The test for whether a proposed rule or regulation by a Federal Agency is permissible is whether the Agency instituted that new regulation in an “arbitrary or capricious” way. That’s why the notice and public comment period is so important in administrative law. A reviewing court needs to make sure that any new Agency rules are not simply created on the whim of those Agencies’ boards, but rather are the result of careful research. This arbitrary and capricious standard applies to decisions by Agencies to enact new regulations as well as decisions to rescind existing regulations (Motor Vehicles Manufacturers Association v. State Farm, 463 U.S. 29 (1983)).

The court that reviews decisions by major agencies like the FCC is almost always the DC Circuit Court of Appeals. Presently, of the 11 current (non-senior) justices on the DC Circuit, 7 were appointed either by Obama or Clinton. It is not a conservative court.

Since the notice and public comment period in Agency procedure is so important for the reasons above, it’s very likely that the liberal DC Circuit (Chief Justice Merrick Garland, remember him?) would find that the rampant use of bots and fraudulent commenting in that period provide substantial evidence that the actions of the FCC in rescinding Net Neutrality rules were arbitrary and capricious. This isn’t over.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Dec 15, 2017 • 8:52:11am

Lying Lubbock GOPers celebate the end of net neutrality:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2017 • 8:54:30am
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Belafon  Dec 15, 2017 • 8:56:09am

re: #351 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Lying Lubbock GOPers celebate the end of net neutrality:

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They think Net Neutrality is the Fairness Doctrine, bless their hearts.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2017 • 8:56:13am
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CongoJack  Dec 15, 2017 • 8:56:51am

re: #352 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Continue to file this under:
If a Democratic President would have done it they would have been investigated and impeached (at the very least 24/hour nonstop media outrage).

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 15, 2017 • 8:58:09am

re: #351 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Lying Lubbock GOPers celebate the end of net neutrality:

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Ten to one they’re thinking that “net neutrality” is the same thing as the old Fairness Doctrine.

Wingnuts really are a special kind of stupid.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 15, 2017 • 8:58:48am

re: #300 makeitstop

Omarosa was “lonely” but she was okay with collecting $180,000 per year to work for a racist. She would be still there if he hadn’t tired of her and kicked her out.

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makeitstop  Dec 15, 2017 • 9:00:08am

re: #357 Patricia Kayden

Omarosa was “lonely” but she was okay with collecting $180,000 per year to work for a racist. She would be still there if he hadn’t tired of her and kicked her out.

Yep. To borrow a phrase, ‘She knew what she signed up for.’

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Belafon  Dec 15, 2017 • 9:03:21am

re: #357 Patricia Kayden

Omarosa was “lonely” but she was okay with collecting $180,000 per year to work for a racist. She would be still there if he hadn’t tired of her and kicked her out.

That segment from Seth Meyers’ writer Amber had the lines:

Trump: You were supposed to deliver me the black woman vote.
Omarosa: But I don’t know any!

That whole segment cracked my son and me up:

youtube.com

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dangerman  Dec 15, 2017 • 9:03:37am

re: #350 plansbandc

remember to breathe….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2017 • 9:04:16am
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dangerman  Dec 15, 2017 • 9:05:06am

re: #353 Belafon

They think Net Neutrality is the Fairness Doctrine, bless their hearts.

its now gonna cost them more to remain that “uninformed”

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dangerman  Dec 15, 2017 • 9:06:28am

re: #355 CongoJack

Continue to file this under:
If a Democratic President would have done it they would have been investigated and impeached (at the very least 24/hour nonstop media outrage).

…the next day

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makeitstop  Dec 15, 2017 • 9:08:25am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2017 • 9:10:23am
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Ace-o-aces  Dec 15, 2017 • 9:12:07am
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Jay C  Dec 15, 2017 • 9:12:17am

re: #344 dangerman

at a minimum we need a *functioning* two party system.

Oh, we’ll get one soon enough: I imagine a newfound sense of respect for the rights of the legislative minority will become a fundamental principle of governance in Washington - as soon as the Democrats take control of either/both Houses of Congress.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2017 • 9:13:12am
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dangerman  Dec 15, 2017 • 9:13:19am

re: #361 Backwoods_Sleuth

PA GOP members are fighting to keep the state’s redistricting information from being released

what im talking about

re: #344 dangerman

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dangerman  Dec 15, 2017 • 9:14:45am

re: #364 makeitstop

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as if anything this guy says matters or has consequences

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2017 • 9:15:17am

re: #368 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2017 • 9:19:48am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2017 • 9:20:32am

heh

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2017 • 9:29:24am
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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Dec 15, 2017 • 9:29:59am

Kevin Swanson, who said that the wombs of women who use birth control are “embedded with dead babies” and that gay marriage would lead to Boy Scout merit badge for cannibalism, has now applied his special insight to the Alabama election:

Facebook Post

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2017 • 9:31:31am
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Patricia Kayden  Dec 15, 2017 • 9:33:30am

re: #374 Backwoods_Sleuth

Democrats have done nothing for children like the GOP which has let CHIP lapse, tried to repeal the ACA, is in the process of trying to legalize a huge wealth grab for the mega rich, etc., etc. We know, Donny. We know.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2017 • 9:33:47am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2017 • 9:34:40am

re: #378 Backwoods_Sleuth

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looks to me like they are grabbing each other’s butts…

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 15, 2017 • 9:34:51am

re: #375 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Isn’t Swanson the nut who said that the Burning Man festival was trying to bring back human sacrifice or some such BS?

What a raving loon.

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CongoJack  Dec 15, 2017 • 9:35:46am

re: #374 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Well.. bad joke.

Democrats have done nothing TO children.

See: Moore, Hastert

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2017 • 9:36:25am

lol

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2017 • 9:38:04am

I second that.

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sagehen  Dec 15, 2017 • 9:39:23am
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ObserverArt  Dec 15, 2017 • 9:39:52am

re: #357 Patricia Kayden

Omarosa was “lonely” but she was okay with collecting $180,000 per year to work for a racist. She would be still there if he hadn’t tired of her and kicked her out.

“He” being off course his keeper John Kelly. If it were up to Trump she’d still be collecting checks and saying stupid stuff for Trump.

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dangerman  Dec 15, 2017 • 9:40:14am

re: #382 Backwoods_Sleuth

lol

We singles live empty lives of quiet desperation and will die alone. Now Rubio is demanding that we also fund happy families with children who fill their days with joy.

she understands nothing about the moral logic of common sacrifice

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plansbandc  Dec 15, 2017 • 9:41:01am

re: #386 dangerman

Zero empathy will do that.

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I cannot.  Dec 15, 2017 • 9:41:33am
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dangerman  Dec 15, 2017 • 9:41:50am

re: #384 sagehen

BREAKING: the Senate GOP is planning to rip health care from 13 million people, drive up premiums AND cut Medicare to pay for tax cuts for billionaires and corporations. They just can’t keep their hands off our health care. If you fought Trumpcare, we need you in this fight now!

compare this, happening right now, by the R’s, with #374’s idiodic comment

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dangerman  Dec 15, 2017 • 9:43:10am

re: #387 plansbandc

Zero empathy will do that.

yup she basically said the tax law should be about nothing that doesnt affect her personally

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Belafon  Dec 15, 2017 • 9:44:34am

re: #386 dangerman

she understands nothing about the moral logic of common sacrifice

When she calls 911 because she can’t get up in the future, I would not be opposed to the paramedic sitting in her chair saying “You didn’t see any need in helping me prepare for this possibility.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2017 • 9:44:41am
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Ace-o-aces  Dec 15, 2017 • 9:45:37am

re: #388 I cannot.

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Belafon  Dec 15, 2017 • 9:46:03am

re: #392 Backwoods_Sleuth

I also wouldn’t have been opposed to the judge having them arrested.

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ObserverArt  Dec 15, 2017 • 9:47:52am

re: #383 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I second that.

Did Matt Damon just torpedo his film career…especially with women?

Why yes, I think he just did some major damage.

Matt is obviously not very bright.

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CongoJack  Dec 15, 2017 • 9:48:14am

re: #392 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Uh no warrant and they did that. Were they even ICE or were they assholes/supremacists playing ICE. Something stinks.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2017 • 9:48:27am
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Belafon  Dec 15, 2017 • 9:50:28am

re: #396 CongoJack

Uh no warrant and they did that. Were they even ICE or were they assholes/supremacists playing ICE. Something stinks.

This isn’t the first time ICE has done this type of thing, and it’s not the first time it’s been caught on video. They tried something similar in, I believe, Portland. It is ICE. And I do think they’re going to need to be arrested by local law enforcement to stop it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2017 • 9:51:51am
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ObserverArt  Dec 15, 2017 • 9:53:08am

re: #398 Belafon

This isn’t the first time ICE has done this type of thing, and it’s not the first time it’s been caught on video. They tried something similar in, I believe, Portland. It is ICE. And I do think they’re going to need to be arrested by local law enforcement to stop it.

But will local law enforcement do anything? They might just give ICE an “attaboy” and go back for some doughnuts, or get their head shaved and polished.

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 15, 2017 • 9:53:31am

re: #388 I cannot.

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Belafon  Dec 15, 2017 • 9:57:34am

re: #400 ObserverArt

But will local law enforcement do anything? They might just give ICE and “attaboy” and go back for some doughnuts, or get their head shaved and polished.

It will depend on the city. That was Houston. It will take a city with some serious guts to do it.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Dec 15, 2017 • 10:03:37am

re: #380 Dr Lizardo

Isn’t Swanson the nut who said that the Burning Man festival was trying to bring back human sacrifice or some such BS?

What a raving loon.

The very one:
Kevin Swanson: Burning Man Wants To Bring Back Human Sacrifice

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Ace-o-aces  Dec 15, 2017 • 10:04:05am
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goddamnedfrank  Dec 15, 2017 • 10:04:54am
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ericblair  Dec 15, 2017 • 10:06:54am

re: #373 Backwoods_Sleuth

A water fountain at the EPA backed up and started spewing sewage into the hallway eenews.net

I NEED A SIGN FROM GOD…oh.

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JordanRules  Dec 15, 2017 • 10:06:56am

re: #405 goddamnedfrank

I couldn’t believe it either. She gave up a lot of the game on this one.

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 15, 2017 • 10:08:26am

re: #405 goddamnedfrank

I see the nicotine from all of the cigarettes she has smoked have finally reached her grey cells.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 15, 2017 • 10:08:55am

I’m single. I have no problem helping out families especially poorer ones.

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 15, 2017 • 10:09:45am

re: #409 HappyWarrior

Same here. But please allow me to feed myself first. /half

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HappyWarrior  Dec 15, 2017 • 10:10:35am

re: #410 PhillyPretzel

Same here. But please allow me to feed myself first. /half

Ditto.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 15, 2017 • 10:12:49am

re: #383 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I second that.

Again I’ll ask Matt what I’ve been asking others. If a female supervisor you simply wanted a professional relationship with did these things to you. Sigh I like Matt Damon’s work but he’s coming off like an idiot here.

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MsJ  Dec 15, 2017 • 10:14:07am

re: #395 ObserverArt

Did Matt Damon just torpedo his film career…especially with women?

Why yes, I think he just did some major damage.

Matt is obviously not very bright.

Why not? He did so with POC previously (during the last Project Greenlight, that also produced that dreadfully awful The Leisure Class film and it’s equally awful “director”.

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 15, 2017 • 10:14:34am

re: #375 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Kevin Swanson, who said that the wombs of women who use birth control are “embedded with dead babies” and that gay marriage would lead to Boy Scout merit badge for cannibalism, has now applied his special insight to the Alabama election:

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Southerners do love their porn!

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Belafon  Dec 15, 2017 • 10:14:48am

re: #412 HappyWarrior

Again I’ll ask Matt what I’ve been asking others. If a female supervisor you simply wanted a professional relationship with that looked like your mother did these things to you. Sigh I like Matt Damon’s work but he’s coming off like an idiot here.

Appeal to something more basic.

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MsJ  Dec 15, 2017 • 10:15:19am

re: #398 Belafon

This isn’t the first time ICE has done this type of thing, and it’s not the first time it’s been caught on video. They tried something similar in, I believe, Portland. It is ICE. And I do think they’re going to need to be arrested by local law enforcement to stop it.

ICE is Trump’s Gestapo. No Ifs, ands or buts.

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 15, 2017 • 10:16:51am

re: #383 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I second that.

I think I won’t be going to see his new movie.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 15, 2017 • 10:16:56am

Nn

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HappyWarrior  Dec 15, 2017 • 10:17:15am

re: #413 MsJ

Why not? He did so with POC previously (during the last Project Greenlight, that also produced that dreadfully awful The Leisure Class film and it’s equally awful “director”.

I missed this.

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MsJ  Dec 15, 2017 • 10:17:42am

re: #419 HappyWarrior

I missed this.

You missed very little. Honestly.

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Belafon  Dec 15, 2017 • 10:17:52am

re: #418 HappyWarrior

No I want to know how they’d feel if a supervisor they had no attraction to suggested they’d fuck.

That was the idea. Give them someone they’d actually (hopefully) be repulsed by advances from.

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 15, 2017 • 10:18:10am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Dec 15, 2017 • 10:19:29am

re: #342 Backwoods_Sleuth

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HappyWarrior  Dec 15, 2017 • 10:19:36am

re: #421 Belafon

That was the idea. Give them someone they’d actually (hopefully) be repulsed by advances from.

Yeah I saw what you meant now. Sorry.

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MsJ  Dec 15, 2017 • 10:20:59am

re: #419 HappyWarrior

I missed this.

1. jezebel.com

2. variety.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2017 • 10:21:25am

re: #423 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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You win the internets today!

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John Carter  Dec 15, 2017 • 10:21:52am

re: #405 goddamnedfrank

She was probably hacked.

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MsJ  Dec 15, 2017 • 10:23:10am

re: #427 John Carter

She was probably hacked.

That’s what I thought at first. But the hate is there, she’s just being honest about what a miserable person she is.

Frank was right. It really is profound.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Dec 15, 2017 • 10:24:23am

re: #364 makeitstop

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HappyWarrior  Dec 15, 2017 • 10:25:31am

re: #425 MsJ

1. jezebel.com

2. variety.com

That’s disappointing.

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John Carter  Dec 15, 2017 • 10:25:45am

re: #428 MsJ

That’s what I thought at first. But the hate is there, she’s just being honest about what a miserable person she is.

Frank was right. It really is profound.

If she is being honest, then a bigger man than me might pity her.

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JordanRules  Dec 15, 2017 • 10:26:15am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 15, 2017 • 10:27:33am

re: #432 JordanRules

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Ever consider that she’s done a lot more than just mock people Paul? Fuck off snowflake.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 15, 2017 • 10:28:19am

I’ve never suggested antidepressants are over prescribed but I trust actual psychiatrists than whacks like you.

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 15, 2017 • 10:28:37am

re: #432 JordanRules

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I went to that thread for the Say Anything gifs and was not disappointed.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Dec 15, 2017 • 10:29:39am

re: #365 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The Major  Dec 15, 2017 • 10:30:13am

re: #382 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Targetpractice  Dec 15, 2017 • 10:31:16am

re: #422 goddamnedfrank

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Perhaps it might have helped had someone quoted the words in full context, like so:

“I think we’re in this watershed moment. I think it’s great. I think it’s wonderful that women are feeling empowered to tell their stories, and it’s totally necessary,” Damon said. “I do believe that there’s a spectrum of behavior, right? And we’re going to have to figure—you know, there’s a difference between, you know, patting someone on the butt and rape or child molestation, right?”

Damon pointed to Al Franken, the Minnesota senator who recently resigned after several women claimed he groped and kissed them without their permission. The We Bought A Zoo star said he would’ve preferred a Senate Ethics Committee investigation into the allegations, and expressed concern that people are “so energized” for “retribution” that they’re conflating different types of harassment.

“We live in this culture of outrage and injury,” Damon said. “You know, that we’re going to have to correct enough to kind of go, ‘Wait a minute. None of us came here perfect.’”

Is he really saying anything that lizards here haven’t already said in recent weeks?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Dec 15, 2017 • 10:32:17am

re: #375 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Kevin Swanson, who said that the wombs of women who use birth control are “embedded with dead babies” and that gay marriage would lead to Boy Scout merit badge for cannibalism, has now applied his special insight to the Alabama election:

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I would have made Eagle, but I couldn’t complete the cannibalism badge.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2017 • 10:32:32am
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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 15, 2017 • 10:33:32am

re: #440 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I’m sure they won’t; Trump doesn’t want people signing up.

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Belafon  Dec 15, 2017 • 10:33:40am

re: #438 Targetpractice

Perhaps it might have helped had someone quoted the words in full context, like so:

Is he really saying anything that lizards here haven’t already said in recent weeks?

I was waiting to read that until I got home. Glad someone else did for me. That’s exactly what a lot of us have said. (Note, I decided not to touch this topic until I read it.)

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Dec 15, 2017 • 10:36:08am

re: #382 Backwoods_Sleuth

lol

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Did she get hacked?

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MsJ  Dec 15, 2017 • 10:36:20am
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MsJ  Dec 15, 2017 • 10:37:22am
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dangerman  Dec 15, 2017 • 10:38:47am

re: #401 goddamnedfrank

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hey ann:

hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way

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retired cynic  Dec 15, 2017 • 10:40:42am

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 15, 2017 • 10:41:34am

re: #438 Targetpractice

Perhaps it might have helped had someone quoted the words in full context, like so:

Is he really saying anything that lizards here haven’t already said in recent weeks?

I’m honestly not a big fan of the conflation argument with regards to Franken. There has to be a bar below legally actionable assault or discrimination for elected officials and the things Franken admitted to doing showed, I think, absolutely abysmal judgement to a degree that no full ethics investigation could ever exonerate. I also don’t think Democrats would be doing ourselves any favors by allowing the dearth of standards & integrity shown by Republicans to determine how we govern ourselves. This should be about how we exemplify our own ideals and not comparative optics.

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dangerman  Dec 15, 2017 • 10:42:25am

re: #421 Belafon

That was the idea. Give them someone they’d actually (hopefully) be repulsed by advances from.

…who could tank their job/ career

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plansbandc  Dec 15, 2017 • 10:42:30am

Hmm. Never saw Obama referred to as Ovomit before. Thanks facebook.

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Belafon  Dec 15, 2017 • 10:44:11am

re: #448 goddamnedfrank

I am kind of fond of due process. The question becomes how far do we allow political choices to modify that.

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JordanRules  Dec 15, 2017 • 10:45:37am

re: #451 Belafon

It remains true that he was not denied a version of “due process” at his job.

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jaunte  Dec 15, 2017 • 10:46:27am

Our tax dollars, spent to propagandize ourselves.

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 15, 2017 • 10:47:47am

On 538, Trump’s approval rating is now more than 20 points underwater, which is close to a new low for him.

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MsJ  Dec 15, 2017 • 10:49:03am
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goddamnedfrank  Dec 15, 2017 • 10:49:08am

re: #451 Belafon

I am kind of fond of due process. The question becomes how far do we allow political choices to modify that.

They weren’t modified. Franken was given due process, he just decided to cut it short rather than go through a lengthy public hearing process. The fact that his colleagues called on him to resign didn’t deprive him of his rights, he exercised full agency and made a choice. I think it’s a distortion of reality to cast “due process” as a specific set of official events that must occur in a set order.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 15, 2017 • 10:49:40am

re: #455 MsJ

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Coward.

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Belafon  Dec 15, 2017 • 10:49:52am

re: #454 Big Beautiful Door

On 538, Trump’s approval rating is now more than 20 points underwater, which is a new low for him.

Maybe Trump will tweet about how he’s setting records.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 15, 2017 • 10:50:18am

re: #453 jaunte

Our tax dollars, spent to propagandize ourselves.

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JFC

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MsJ  Dec 15, 2017 • 10:50:19am

re: #456 goddamnedfrank

Sorry. He wasn’t given due process. He was forced out by his peers.

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MsJ  Dec 15, 2017 • 10:51:21am

re: #457 HappyWarrior

Coward.

Always. Rubio continues to exhibit profiles in cowardice.

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Belafon  Dec 15, 2017 • 10:51:24am

re: #453 jaunte

Our tax dollars, spent to propagandize ourselves.

Deserts are forests.
Oil is water.
Cancer is healthy.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Dec 15, 2017 • 10:51:58am

re: #453 jaunte

Our tax dollars, spent to propagandize ourselves.

[Embedded content]

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BlackPearl  Dec 15, 2017 • 10:52:13am

re: #342 Backwoods_Sleuth

Shocking no one, he is a moron. The US is the one who performs the lottery, not the emigrant countries.

For the record, the only person I know who got a green card via the lottery is a German coworker, who is as white and privileged as possible (but otherwise a nice guy) and is now living in SF making shit-tons of money in the tech industry. I gather that:
—white
—rich
—northern European
—tech genius
now qualifies as “worst of the worst” to Trump and his idiots. Huh.

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JordanRules  Dec 15, 2017 • 10:52:13am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Dec 15, 2017 • 10:52:45am

re: #462 Belafon

Deserts are forests.
Oil is water.
Cancer is healthy.

This is great news for people who have cancer! Thank you Donald Trump!

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jaunte  Dec 15, 2017 • 10:53:04am

re: #463 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Incoming EPA Adviser Thinks Air Is Too Clean
newsweek.com

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HappyWarrior  Dec 15, 2017 • 10:53:47am

re: #461 MsJ

Always. Rubio continues to exhibit profiles in cowardice.

Yep. Not a strong bone in his body.

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 15, 2017 • 10:53:48am

re: #460 MsJ

Sorry. He wasn’t given due process. He was forced out by his peers.

He was told they wanted him out. He chose to go. He didn’t have to, he chose it, in part to save himself, his family and the Democratic Party further embarrassment. He’s far more a victim of his own horrid past judgement than he is of anyone or anything else.

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JordanRules  Dec 15, 2017 • 10:54:08am
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dangerman  Dec 15, 2017 • 10:55:06am

re: #454 Big Beautiful Door

On 538, Trump’s approval rating is now more than 20 points underwater, which is close to a new low for him.

i check rcp now and again - as an average it tempers when reuters had him -28 and monmouth -26

in any event he was -20 average on 8/14/17, and is today at -20.6

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 15, 2017 • 10:56:28am

It is remarkable that even as Franken leaves in disgrace he retains far more dignity and honor than the vast majority of Republican lawmakers who remain. But that just condemns them, it doesn’t exculpate him.

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dangerman  Dec 15, 2017 • 10:57:07am

re: #466 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

This is great news for people who have cancer! Thank you Donald Trump!

john mccain?
(too soon?)

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Skip Intro  Dec 15, 2017 • 10:59:09am

re: #463 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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When Fox “News” propaganda just isn’t enough.

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 15, 2017 • 10:59:13am

re: #467 jaunte

Incoming EPA Adviser Thinks Air Is Too Clean
newsweek.com

War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery and Arbeit Machts Frei

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MsJ  Dec 15, 2017 • 10:59:39am

Fuckers. Thread.

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Jebediah, RBG  Dec 15, 2017 • 11:00:13am

re: #439 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I would have made Eagle, but I couldn’t complete the cannibalism badge.

Not me!
It’s pretty much like chicken, anyway.

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Targetpractice  Dec 15, 2017 • 11:00:16am

re: #469 goddamnedfrank

He was told they wanted him out. He chose to go. He didn’t have to, he chose it, in part to save himself, his family and the Democratic Party further embarrassment. He’s far more a victim of his own horrid past judgement than he is of anyone or anything else.

If a sizable portion of your coworkers come to you together and say “We want you out because we don’t feel you’re fit to work here anymore,” sure you can tell them to kiss your ass and continue working. But would you feel comfortable doing so anymore, knowing that most of the people you previously viewed as friends now hate your guts and want you gone in the worst way? Sure, they can’t take legal or even administrative action outright, but the work environment is now so hostile that you cease to have any ability to get work done.

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TedStriker  Dec 15, 2017 • 11:02:36am

re: #477 Jebediah, RBG

I think they also will never get that women don’t consider themselves to be nothing more than their looks.

Not me!
It’s pretty much like chicken, anyway.

Pork, long pork.

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MsJ  Dec 15, 2017 • 11:02:44am
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Targetpractice  Dec 15, 2017 • 11:02:53am

re: #448 goddamnedfrank

I’m honestly not a big fan of the conflation argument with regards to Franken. There has to be a bar below legally actionable assault or discrimination for elected officials and the things Franken admitted to doing showed, I think, absolutely abysmal judgement to a degree that no full ethics investigation could ever exonerate. I also don’t think Democrats would be doing ourselves any favors by allowing the dearth of standards & integrity shown by Republicans to determine how we govern ourselves. This should be about how we exemplify our own ideals and not comparative optics.

He admitted to take a picture that as a comedian he felt was humorous but admitted later was in poor taste. That is the sum total of the confessions he has made. Every other accusation against him was met with “I don’t remember it like that” or “that never happened.” That is the issue here, that a moment of bad judgment is now being viewed as grounds for resignation.

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jaunte  Dec 15, 2017 • 11:06:22am
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FormerDirtDart  Dec 15, 2017 • 11:08:47am
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Ace-o-aces  Dec 15, 2017 • 11:08:48am
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jaunte  Dec 15, 2017 • 11:09:46am
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Targetpractice  Dec 15, 2017 • 11:11:16am

re: #485 jaunte

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“Homelessness demands the attention of everyone…which is why I’ve dedicated my department to putting as many people on the street as possible, because I don’t want them feeling comfortable in a warm home and full bellies! They want that, they can get a job or go to a church!”

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 15, 2017 • 11:12:08am

re: #480 MsJ

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The problem with never Trumpers is what do they have to offer voters if they aren’t dog whistling racism, homophobia and misogyny? That is the sugar which helps the medicine of higher taxes on the middle class and loss of access to healthcare go down.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Dec 15, 2017 • 11:12:33am

JFC. I hate Ann Coulter too, but this? A knockoff leather handbag filled with scorpions and Mein Kampf? Is that libel? (checks legal books)

Nope. “Truth is an absolute defense for libel.”

Also: is the howling loneliness and pain starting to penetrate the thick Maginot Line-level thick layer of hatefulness and sadism that she has erected as a psychic deflector shield?

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MsJ  Dec 15, 2017 • 11:16:11am
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FormerDirtDart  Dec 15, 2017 • 11:20:01am
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JordanRules  Dec 15, 2017 • 11:22:48am
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BeachDem  Dec 15, 2017 • 11:22:48am

re: #482 jaunte

Just to be clear about where it appears we ended up after this big fight over the Child Tax Credit — that $75 for the minimum-wage worker at the top of the chart didn’t go up a penny

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Jen Rubin (again, the world’s turned upside down and I’m quoting Jennifer Rubin)

The real question now is whether Rubio sticks to his position or takes a crumb, declares victory and falls in line behind leadership. He seemed to already be negotiating against himself when he tweeted: “Adding at least a few hundred $’s in refundable cuts for working families who seem to always be forgotten isn’t hard to do.” (“At least a few”? Don’t let this guy negotiate the purchase of your next car.)

washingtonpost.com

Answer—he took a fraction of a crumb and declared victory. Rubio, a man in search of a clue.

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Scottish Dragon  Dec 15, 2017 • 11:24:53am

re: #17 allegro

I swear, they will never ever get the concept of consent. They prove it over and over again.

Rod Dreher says this ‘Me Too’ thing has gone too far…

He cites a bizarre essay from Clair Berlinski as his evidence:

But speak I must. It now takes only one accusation to destroy a man’s life. Just one for him to be tried and sentenced in the court of public opinion, overnight costing him his livelihood and social respectability. We are on a frenzied extrajudicial warlock hunt that does not pause to parse the difference between rape and stupidity. The punishment for sexual harassment is so grave that clearly this crime—like any other serious crime—requires an unambiguous definition. We have nothing of the sort.

Berlinski said that yes, she has often been the recipient of untoward attention from lusty males, including a drunken Oxford don who grabbed her rear end and made a lewd remark at a Christmas party:

But here is the thing. I did not freeze, nor was I terrified. I was amused and flattered and thought little of it. I knew full well he’d been dying to do that. Our tutorials—which took place one-on-one, with no chaperones—were livelier intellectually for that sublimated undercurrent. He was an Oxford don and so had power over me, sensu strictu. I was a 20-year-old undergraduate. But I also had power over him—power sufficient to cause a venerable don to make a perfect fool of himself at a Christmas party. Unsurprisingly, I loved having that power. But now I have too much power

.

See, women? Getting your butt grabbed by an aging professor is real power. /////

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Targetpractice  Dec 15, 2017 • 11:25:41am

re: #492 BeachDem

Jen Rubin (again, the world’s turned upside down and I’m quoting Jennifer Rubin)

The real question now is whether Rubio sticks to his position or takes a crumb, declares victory and falls in line behind leadership. He seemed to already be negotiating against himself when he tweeted: “Adding at least a few hundred $’s in refundable cuts for working families who seem to always be forgotten isn’t hard to do.” (“At least a few”? Don’t let this guy negotiate the purchase of your next car.)

washingtonpost.com

Answer—he took a fraction of a crumb and declared victory. Rubio, a man in search of a clue.

More a man in search of a fig leaf, as like Murkowski, Flake, and Collins he needed to extract some minuscule “win” to tell folks back home that he “fought” for them.

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plansbandc  Dec 15, 2017 • 11:25:56am

Not normal.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Dec 15, 2017 • 11:26:05am

re: #489 MsJ

New Mexico School Shooter Had Secret Life on Pro-Trump White-Supremacy Sites

He was upset that America isn’t fascist. Plenty of people knew that he was a monster, but no one stopped this sick, racist, murderer. How many more of these monsters are on the streets?

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Jebediah, RBG  Dec 15, 2017 • 11:27:08am

re: #479 TedStriker

Pork, long pork.

I stopped eating pork a long time ago, so don’t usually call it “long pig” even if it a closer comparison.

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Targetpractice  Dec 15, 2017 • 11:27:14am

re: #493 Scottish Dragon

Rod Dreher says this ‘Me Too’ thing has gone too far…

He cites a bizarre essay from Clair Berlinski as his evidence:

See, women? Getting your butt grabbed by an aging professor is real power. /////

*sigh*

It’s shit like this that makes arguing for an measure of moderation become a minefield.

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William Lewis  Dec 15, 2017 • 11:29:48am

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Dec 15, 2017 • 11:29:53am

re: #497 Jebediah, RBG

I stopped eating pork a long time ago, so don’t usually call it “long pig” even if it a closer comparison.

You don’t even eat bacon? How do you go on with a bacon-less life? it must be like being a ghost.

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plansbandc  Dec 15, 2017 • 11:31:17am

Elephant Selfie!

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MsJ  Dec 15, 2017 • 11:31:39am

re: #496 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

He was upset that America isn’t fascist. Plenty of people knew that he was a monster, but no one stopped this sick, racist, murderer. How many more of these monsters are on the streets?

Far too many. And all are emboldened by trump.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 15, 2017 • 11:31:42am

re: #493 Scottish Dragon

Rod Dreher says this ‘Me Too’ thing has gone too far…

He cites a bizarre essay from Clair Berlinski as his evidence:

See, women? Getting your butt grabbed by an aging professor is real power. /////

Rod really is a miserable bastard.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 15, 2017 • 11:32:38am

re: #502 MsJ

Far too many. And all are emboldened by trump.

That’s the worst thing of all he’s done. He’s given these people a voice and ally in the WH.

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Shropshire Slasher  Dec 15, 2017 • 11:33:14am

re: #499 William Lewis

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Dec 15, 2017 • 11:34:12am

re: #162 teleskiguy

Yeah, I saw that story about Heather’s mom having to hide her grave. It made me blink.

To recap:

—American girl goes to counter-protest violent Nazis in America
—Nazis then murder American girl in the street
—Mother of girl is distraught, speaks of pain Nazis cause
—Nazis then threaten to kill/rape/torture mother of girl
—Mother of girl has to hide grave from Nazi desecration
—America says, “Welp. That’s the way things are now.”

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Jebediah, RBG  Dec 15, 2017 • 11:34:33am

re: #500 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

You don’t even eat bacon? How do you go on with a bacon-less life? it must be like being a ghost.

Nothing made out of pigs. And it is pretty damn difficult at times. I used to eat wheelbarrows full of bacon.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Dec 15, 2017 • 11:36:23am

re: #507 Jebediah, RBG

Nothing made out of pigs. And it is pretty damn difficult at times. I used to eat wheelbarrows full of bacon.

For health reasons, or because they’re intelligent?
Piles of bacon were the highlight of my trip to Vegas years ago.

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 15, 2017 • 11:43:54am
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FormerDirtDart  Dec 15, 2017 • 11:45:53am
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Weaselone  Dec 15, 2017 • 11:47:03am

re: #509 FormerDirtDart

Major difference. Obamacare gets more popular the longer it lasts. This turkey is probably going to get a little more popular initially when some people get tax cuts, but get a lot less so once the cuts for the middle class expire.

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 15, 2017 • 11:47:07am

Shocked, shocked I say

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Jebediah, RBG  Dec 15, 2017 • 11:47:35am

re: #508 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

For health reasons, or because they’re intelligent?
Piles of bacon were the highlight of my trip to Vegas years ago.

Vegas long ago was one of the places where I ate an embarrassing quantity of bacon!
And yes it is because of their intelligence. When I found that out it just skeeved me to eat them. As we find out more about the intelligence and emotional lives of other species I keep having to restrict what I will eat. No more elephant (I have had elephant biltong, South African jerky, amazing but tough) and no more octopus.

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 15, 2017 • 11:49:11am

re: #510 FormerDirtDart

Save that tweet in the event they say that incident did not happen.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2017 • 11:51:22am

re: #511 Weaselone

Major difference. Obamacare gets more popular the longer it lasts. This turkey is probably going to get a little more popular initially when some people get tax cuts, but get a lot less so once the cuts for the middle class expire.

Other major MAJOR difference…ACA wasn’t “rushed through”.

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Weaselone  Dec 15, 2017 • 11:51:44am

re: #513 Jebediah, RBG

So we just need pigs to be stupider to solve your conundrum. What if the feed lots forced the pigs to watch Fox News? The pigs would be dumber than their droppings in no time. One more morale dilemma solved, another created.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 15, 2017 • 11:54:17am

re: #516 Weaselone

So we just need pigs to be stupider to solve your conundrum. What if the feed lots forced the pigs to watch Fox News? The pigs would be dumber than their droppings in no time. One more morale dilemma solved, another created.

I suspect that violates many laws against cruelty to animals.

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Jebediah, RBG  Dec 15, 2017 • 11:54:52am

re: #516 Weaselone

So we just need pigs to be stupider to solve your conundrum. What if the feed lots forced the pigs to watch Fox News? The pigs would be dumber than their droppings in no time. One more morale dilemma solved, another created.

Another created, exactly - I don’t think I could stand the cruelty of forced Fox. I’m pretty sure that is classified as a crime against humanity. Definitely a crime against sanity.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 15, 2017 • 11:56:19am

re: #513 Jebediah, RBG

Vegas long ago was one of the places where I ate an embarrassing quantity of bacon!
And yes it is because of their intelligence. When I found that out it just skeeved me to eat them. As we find out more about the intelligence and emotional lives of other species I keep having to restrict what I will eat. No more elephant (I have had elephant biltong, South African jerky, amazing but tough) and no more octopus.

My mom spends a huge amount on biltong, but not elephant. (She’s from SA)
I love octi the species, and octi grilled.

I’m bad.

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 15, 2017 • 11:57:12am

re: #519 Stanley Sea

No. You just appreciate the finer things in life.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Dec 15, 2017 • 11:57:47am

re: #513 Jebediah, RBG

Vegas long ago was one of the places where I ate an embarrassing quantity of bacon!
And yes it is because of their intelligence. When I found that out it just skeeved me to eat them. As we find out more about the intelligence and emotional lives of other species I keep having to restrict what I will eat. No more elephant (I have had elephant biltong, South African jerky, amazing but tough) and no more octopus.

Elephants and cephalopods are safe from me, but I’ve accepted being a monster to be able to eat pork.

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JordanRules  Dec 15, 2017 • 11:58:31am
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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 15, 2017 • 12:03:45pm

re: #516 Weaselone

So we just need pigs to be stupider to solve your conundrum. What if the feed lots forced the pigs to watch Fox News? The pigs would be dumber than their droppings in no time. One more morale dilemma solved, another created.

Forcing them to watch Fox News is clearly inhumane.

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darthstar  Dec 15, 2017 • 12:04:44pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 15, 2017 • 12:05:32pm

re: #524 darthstar

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And that’s 2017 in a nutshell. Thanks Trump!

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darthstar  Dec 15, 2017 • 12:06:08pm

re: #525 Big Beautiful Door

And that’s 2017 in a nutshell. Thanks Trump!

And they’d already sent out the invites.

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Jebediah, RBG  Dec 15, 2017 • 12:07:49pm

re: #519 Stanley Sea

My mom spends a huge amount on biltong, but not elephant. (She’s from SA)
I love octi the species, and octi grilled.

I’m bad.

Biltong is pretty great. Elephant is black and takes a lot of chewing and is pretty gamey.

I guess I am bad, too, because there are meats I keep thinking I shouldn’t eat but still do. My wife and I are pretty clearly drifting into vegetarianism.

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 15, 2017 • 12:08:24pm

And the sex harassers of the day are ESPN On-Air Talent!

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darthstar  Dec 15, 2017 • 12:08:33pm
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darthstar  Dec 15, 2017 • 12:10:59pm

All the usual Trump obsessing Tweeters have been saying something big was going to come down today from Mueller…the rage tweets of the President were proof something was about to break.

I haven’t seen shit. Was this just wishful thinking?

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calochortus  Dec 15, 2017 • 12:11:29pm

re: #527 Jebediah, RBG

Biltong is pretty great. Elephant is black and takes a lot of chewing and is pretty gamey.

I guess I am bad, too, because there are meats I keep thinking I shouldn’t eat but still do. My wife and I are pretty clearly drifting into vegetarianism.

My bottom line on meats is whether the animal in question had a good life and a reasonably stress-free death. Do I sometimes eat questionable stuff? Sure. I’m not perfect, but I can afford the humanely raised stuff and try to buy it when I can.

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 15, 2017 • 12:11:58pm
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makeitstop  Dec 15, 2017 • 12:12:59pm

re: #530 darthstar

All the usual Trump obsessing Tweeters have been saying something big was going to come down today from Mueller…the rage tweets of the President were proof something was about to break.

I haven’t seen shit. Was this just wishful thinking?

We won’t now until it drops. If it does.

There was a lot of chatter last night, though. Mueller does not operate on your schedule, or mine.

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darthstar  Dec 15, 2017 • 12:13:28pm
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CongoJack  Dec 15, 2017 • 12:14:06pm

re: #533 makeitstop

I heard that the Kush was going to be indicted. But I really know nothing on the item and wait with bated breath.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Dec 15, 2017 • 12:14:48pm

re: #530 darthstar

All the usual Trump obsessing Tweeters have been saying something big was going to come down today from Mueller…the rage tweets of the President were proof something was about to break.

I haven’t seen shit. Was this just wishful thinking?

A senile narcissist flipping out is a terrible way to predict future events. Something slightly negative in his briefing could do it, or maybe Fox and Friends didn’t kiss his ass enough.

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Belafon  Dec 15, 2017 • 12:15:04pm

re: #535 CongoJack

I heard that the Kush was going to be indicted. But I really know nothing on the item and wait with bated breath.

From what I heard, that was being produced by Russian bots and people were warned to be very wary of opening anything related to it.

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darthstar  Dec 15, 2017 • 12:17:00pm

re: #536 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

A senile narcissist flipping out is a terrible way to predict future events. Something slightly negative in his briefing could do it, or maybe Fox and Friends didn’t kiss his ass enough.

Or his ice cream could be a little too melty. Or one scoop is smaller than the other.

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Jebediah, RBG  Dec 15, 2017 • 12:17:31pm

re: #531 calochortus

My bottom line on meats is whether the animal in question had a good life and a reasonably stress-free death. Do I sometimes eat questionable stuff? Sure. I’m not perfect, but I can afford the humanely raised stuff and try to buy it when I can.

For quite a while now, that has been pretty much our approach too. For whatever reason, though, it is starting to not work so well for me.

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 15, 2017 • 12:17:47pm
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JordanRules  Dec 15, 2017 • 12:18:49pm

Carter Page is a strange dude.

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BeachDem  Dec 15, 2017 • 12:19:37pm

re: #512 FormerDirtDart

Shocked, shocked I say

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And look who he thanks for their support:

The progress made on the Child Tax Credit would not have been possible without the support of @SenMikeLee, @SenatorTimScott, and @IvankaTrump.

ugh.

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 15, 2017 • 12:20:14pm

The stock market is rocketing up today, probably in anticipation of tax reform passing, as it seems increasingly likely to.

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 15, 2017 • 12:21:26pm

re: #481 Targetpractice

He admitted to take a picture that as a comedian he felt was humorous but admitted later was in poor taste.

She was asleep, she was vulnerable, she couldn’t give consent to have herself and her likeness used that way and as an adult he thought exploiting the situation for a laugh was a good idea.

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JordanRules  Dec 15, 2017 • 12:21:36pm

re: #541 JordanRules

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majii  Dec 15, 2017 • 12:27:02pm

re: #300 makeitstop

“Omarosa: I was “very lonely” in Trump White House due to lack of diversity”

I don’t want to hear this sh*t from Omorosa, and if she thinks she can come crawling back into the arms of Black Americans like myself for comfort, she’s not only delusional, she’s stupid. She chose to align herself with a lying, racist, bigoted, misogynistic, homophobic, Islamophobic, arrogant, stupid jack*ss like Trump and went so far as to tell anyone who didn’t vote for him that we’d have to “bow” to him. She bowed to him, sold any values she may have ever had to gain access to his inner circle, and now that she’s been booted out of the WH for being incompetent, she’s admitting she was “very lonely” in the Trump WH due to lack of diversity?” When she was in the Talking Yam’s good graces on the campaign trail, she didn’t do anything to ensure that there would be more diversity in the WH. Her main focus was on promoting her career, drawing attention to herself, and getting paid handsomely for doing as little work as she could. She got exactly what she wanted, so why is she complaining now? Omarosa earned the derision she’s now receiving. Every bit of it. Wrong is wrong, and she knew what she was doing was morally wrong when she was doing it. Maybe she can call Huckabee Sanders, Conway, Hicks, and Katrina Pierson and share her grievances with them. I don’t want to hear them because I’m a member of the “Bye, Felicia” coalition.

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JordanRules  Dec 15, 2017 • 12:27:04pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Dec 15, 2017 • 12:27:15pm

re: #544 goddamnedfrank

She was asleep, she was vulnerable, she couldn’t give consent to have herself and likeness used that way and as an adult he thought exploiting the situation for a laugh was a good idea.

Most comics are arrested-development cases. They’re fun on-stage, but you wouldn’t want them in your life.

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makeitstop  Dec 15, 2017 • 12:28:45pm
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nines09  Dec 15, 2017 • 12:30:54pm

Anyone post this? We have a winner.

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BeachDem  Dec 15, 2017 • 12:34:17pm

And Corker capitulates. Sigh.

What a…corker.

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 15, 2017 • 12:36:21pm

re: #551 BeachDem

And Corker capitulates. Sigh.

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What a…corker.

I’m not surprised. The GOP is going to need vast amounts of money from the donor base to try to snow their voting base into keeping them in office.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 15, 2017 • 12:36:22pm

re: #550 nines09

Anyone post this? We have a winner.

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I’m not that witty.

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 15, 2017 • 12:36:30pm

My memory of the geography of Jerusalem would suggest that this position is going to be highly problematic

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HappyWarrior  Dec 15, 2017 • 12:37:15pm

re: #552 Big Beautiful Door

I’m not surprised. The GOP is going to need vast amounts of money from the donor base to try to snow their voting base into keeping them in office.

Corker is resigning though but he’s probably got a nice lobbying gig coming up that will give him a pretty penny.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2017 • 12:40:56pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 15, 2017 • 12:41:30pm

One piece of good news. The Parliamentarian blocked GOP efforts to turn churches into SuperPacs.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2017 • 12:42:10pm
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dangerman  Dec 15, 2017 • 12:42:22pm

re: #507 Jebediah, RBG

Nothing made out of pigs. And it is pretty damn difficult at times. I used to eat wheelbarrows full of bacon.

beats a basket of deplorables any day

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Belafon  Dec 15, 2017 • 12:43:20pm

re: #558 Backwoods_Sleuth

They pretty much only believe Medicare and Social Security add to the deficit.

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dangerman  Dec 15, 2017 • 12:45:40pm

re: #511 Weaselone

Major difference. Obamacare gets more popular the longer it lasts. This turkey is probably going to get a little more popular initially when some people get tax cuts, but get a lot less so once the cuts for the middle class expire.

another major difference:

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darthstar  Dec 15, 2017 • 12:46:43pm
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Jebediah, RBG  Dec 15, 2017 • 12:46:56pm

re: #559 dangerman

beats a basket of deplorables any day

Gott-dang right!

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dangerman  Dec 15, 2017 • 12:47:35pm

re: #525 Big Beautiful Door

And that’s 2017 in a nutshell. Thanks Trump!

yup. cant pin this one on, you know, anyone else (before)

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Dec 15, 2017 • 12:48:13pm

re: #551 BeachDem

And Corker capitulates. Sigh.

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What a…corker.

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 15, 2017 • 12:51:42pm

re: #483 FormerDirtDart

#FridayFreakout

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Oh that is cruel, funny, but cruel.

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majii  Dec 15, 2017 • 12:59:06pm

re: #496 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

“He was upset that America isn’t fascist. Plenty of people knew that he was a monster, but no one stopped this sick, racist, murderer. How many more of these monsters are on the streets?”

He also seemed to be upset that his life wasn’t going the way he expected. He quit high school in 10th Grade, returned and dropped out again. I read quite a bit about him on The Daily Beast site. He was complaining about living in a small town that he considered backwards. He could have changed his life, and the first step would have included earning a high school diploma. He described his dad as a fat loser and his mom as an alcoholic from Florida. The child had serious problems, but he wasn’t intellectually-challenged because he had a 3.5 GPA when he dropped out of high school. He could have joined the military or gone to college to improve his life, but he chose not to and decided he’d frequent white supremacist websites to b*tch about how sorry his life was and how tired he was of seeing minorities doing better than he was doing. He made the wrong choices, didn’t try to do anything with his life, became bitter, lashed out, and ended up killing two innocent students and himself. He never seemed to understand that a large part of how one’s life turns out are the decisions one makes.


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