The Trump Gang Is Prohibiting the CDC From Using Words That Describe Reality: Fetus, Transgender, Diversity

One of the non-violent ways authoritarian fascism takes root in a government is by controlling the language used to communicate with the public, eliminating the terms that expose the fascist agenda and replacing them with deceptive concepts that are easily manipulated instead.

And that’s exactly what is happening at the Centers for Disease Control, where the Trump administration is banning the use of words that aren’t considered politically correct on the extreme right: CDC gets list of forbidden words: Fetus, transgender, diversity.

The Trump administration is prohibiting officials at the nation’s top public health agency from using a list of seven words or phrases — including “fetus” and “transgender” — in official documents being prepared for next year’s budget.

Policy analysts at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta were told of the list of forbidden words at a meeting Thursday with senior CDC officials who oversee the budget, according to an analyst who took part in the 90-minute briefing. The forbidden words are “vulnerable,” “entitlement,” “diversity,” “transgender,” “fetus,” “evidence-based” and “science-based.”

In some instances, the analysts were given alternative phrases. Instead of “science-based” or ­“evidence-based,” the suggested phrase is “CDC bases its recommendations on science in consideration with community standards and wishes,” the person said. In other cases, no replacement words were immediately offered.

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Belafon  Dec 16, 2017 • 11:38:39am

Every time they need to say evidence-based, they should insert a description of the scientific method.

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Targetpractice  Dec 16, 2017 • 11:39:05am

Next up, bringing back geocentrism and creationism to our classrooms, because how dare we teach children about scientific facts that might upset Donny.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 16, 2017 • 11:41:15am

re: #2 Targetpractice

Next up, bringing back geocentrism and creationism to our classrooms, because how dare we teach children about scientific facts that might upset Donny.

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If DeVos goes (for whatever reason) how much you wanna bet the next Secretary of Education will be a Flat-Earther?

And would you really be all that shocked?

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Charles Johnson  Dec 16, 2017 • 11:43:17am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 16, 2017 • 11:49:19am

re: #4 Charles Johnson

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I have proudly voted for Speier every chance I get!

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dangerman  Dec 16, 2017 • 11:56:42am

as noted last thread, from the great beyond, george carlin noted a much older list of seven words. “shit”, “piss”,”fuck”,……..etc have not been banned

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 16, 2017 • 11:58:00am

re: #4 Charles Johnson

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I truly fear this. And if he tries to proclaim martial law I hope people finally wake up and get in the streets!

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Dave In Austin  Dec 16, 2017 • 12:04:50pm

Bass Pro Shop….. In —- Out. Wallet stays in pocket.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Dec 16, 2017 • 12:05:27pm

2018 is the last time we have a means of changing the direction of this country for the nexr 20 years or more. I feel with clear evidence mounting that Trump and his Republican cohorts will openly increase their flagrant anti-Constitutional behavior and even declare parts of it null and void or organize a quickly convened “New Constitution” convention kangaroo process creating a Evangelical Libertarian Utopia.

We have seen it coming, we have chosen as a nation to turn our heads and simply look away as it happens.

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BigPapa  Dec 16, 2017 • 12:06:06pm
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goddamnedfrank  Dec 16, 2017 • 12:10:44pm

Hopefully her office is also busy getting Chuck C Johnson investigated for stalking and making sure the airline she flew on knows he violated her privacy and should be banned for life.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 16, 2017 • 12:19:26pm

re: #11 goddamnedfrank

I see all the Putinbots posting snarky comments on her Tweet…

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Dr. Matt  Dec 16, 2017 • 12:20:44pm
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BigPapa  Dec 16, 2017 • 12:24:40pm

Is the Chuccubus going to finally be in some kinda legal jeopardy? I’m sure he’ll try and flip it into some grift.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 16, 2017 • 12:24:54pm

re: #13 Dr. Matt

Rage Furby is caught circulating a fake sexual harassment complaint against Chuck Schumer and days later he’s stalking Maxine Waters who is also a victim of a fake document. Just saying….

And he ALWAYS gets away with it!!!!!!!

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Dr. Matt  Dec 16, 2017 • 12:28:03pm

re: #13 Dr. Matt

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Navarro told the L.A. Times that someone he didn’t know sent the letter to his campaign via Facebook — which apparently he deemed was a reliable enough source to pump the letter out on social media.

“I don’t know if it’s real or not, so I put it out there,” Navarro said. “It doesn’t say that I know. It’s ‘according to this document’ … what, am I supposed to send it to her and get an email back from Maxine?”

Exact same excuse that Rage Furby used.

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petesh  Dec 16, 2017 • 12:29:31pm

re: #16 Dr. Matt

Confirm it? Um, yes. Yes, that’s exactly what you are supposed to do.

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dangerman  Dec 16, 2017 • 12:31:01pm

re: #16 Dr. Matt

Exact same excuse that Rage Furby used.

what, am I supposed to send it to her and get an email back from Maxine

Confirm a source? What a novel concept. Why yes that what you do. A and include the response if any

This borders on reckless disregard or some similar reasonable person standard

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Dr. Matt  Dec 16, 2017 • 12:31:36pm

re: #17 petesh

Confirm it? Um, yes. Yes, that’s exactly what you are supposed to do.

And he wants people to send him to DC. FFS.

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Citizen K  Dec 16, 2017 • 12:31:53pm

re: #18 dangerman

Confirm a source? What a novel concept. Why yes that what you do. A and include the response if any

This borders on reckless disregard or some similar reasonable person standard

Reckless Disregard is how the GOP wins though, so…

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petesh  Dec 16, 2017 • 12:33:35pm

Kevin Drum has offered his own translation of the verboten terminology, for the benefit of the scientists at the CDC:

vulnerable —> snowflake
entitlement —> welfare
diversity —> anti-white
transgender —> deviant
fetus —> unborn child
evidence-based —> elitist
science-based —> atheist

motherjones.com
Once again, satire gets a little too close to the bone.

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Dr. Matt  Dec 16, 2017 • 12:35:53pm

The whole thing fucking stinks

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Dr. Matt  Dec 16, 2017 • 12:40:42pm

FYI

We’ll see….

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Nyet  Dec 16, 2017 • 12:41:07pm

Mike Peinovich castigating Mike Cernovich.

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Dr. Matt  Dec 16, 2017 • 12:43:50pm
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FormerDirtDart  Dec 16, 2017 • 12:47:26pm
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Nyet  Dec 16, 2017 • 12:52:09pm

re: #26 FormerDirtDart

A raccoon sex doll. /

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 16, 2017 • 12:56:25pm

re: #27 Nyet

A raccoon sex doll. /

And. you ruined the moment for me…

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Dave In Austin  Dec 16, 2017 • 12:57:57pm

re: #28 FormerDirtDart

And. you ruined the moment for me…

//

Does that mean you were almost there?

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BigPapa  Dec 16, 2017 • 12:58:50pm

(throws empty beer can at Sergey)

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 16, 2017 • 1:01:06pm

re: #29 Dave In Austin

Does that mean you were almost there?

Now I don’t think I ever will be again.

lol

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 16, 2017 • 1:02:29pm

“CDC bases its recommendations on science in consideration with community standards and wishes,”

So basically what this means is: “We reserve the right to ignore science when it’s convenient for us to do so.”

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Nyet  Dec 16, 2017 • 1:03:12pm

re: #30 BigPapa

(throws empty beer can at Sergey)

(catches the empty beer can, puts it into Mr. Fusion)

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Nyet  Dec 16, 2017 • 1:04:30pm

Black Mirror: “the fourth series will be released on 29 December 2017”. Yessss.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 16, 2017 • 1:05:49pm

re: #14 BigPapa

Upding for “Chuccubus”.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Dec 16, 2017 • 1:06:18pm

re: #34 Nyet

The twist of season 4 will be that every episode is just a re-broadcast of an hour of the news cycle, plus a theremin.

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Nyet  Dec 16, 2017 • 1:07:07pm

re: #36 The Ghost of a Flea

The twist of season 4 will be that every episode is just a re-broadcast of an hour of the news cycle, plus a theremin.

Yeah, they have to outdo Trump. Hard.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 16, 2017 • 1:07:37pm

re: #20 Citizen K

Reckless Disregard is how the GOP wins though, so…

Seriously. Their idiotic base will believe anything that goes out, even if it’s retracted or proven false later.

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 16, 2017 • 1:08:39pm
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Nyet  Dec 16, 2017 • 1:08:47pm

Frankly, accounts like this ring more bells than the usual ones. You can almost smell the pathology.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Dec 16, 2017 • 1:10:57pm

re: #37 Nyet

Yeah, they have to outdo Trump. Hard.

I remember when people said “The Waldo Moment” was clumsy and implausible.

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 16, 2017 • 1:12:35pm

re: #39 FormerDirtDart

I am not surprised. I think Mueller will have a few surprises for the uncouth one.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 16, 2017 • 1:16:44pm

re: #42 PhillyPretzel

I am not surprised. I think Mueller will have a few surprises for the uncouth one.

I hope so. I am ready for more bombs to drop.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 16, 2017 • 1:17:34pm

re: #25 Dr. Matt

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He has way too high an opinion of himself.

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BigPapa  Dec 16, 2017 • 1:18:13pm

re: #39 FormerDirtDart

Wow. The sifting of emails would point to a knowledge of guilt

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HappyWarrior  Dec 16, 2017 • 1:18:40pm

re: #39 FormerDirtDart

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No wonder why they’re freaking out and upping the smearing of Mueller’s character.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 16, 2017 • 1:19:26pm

ha ha Nelson

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TedStriker  Dec 16, 2017 • 1:21:22pm

re: #45 BigPapa

Wow. The sifting of emails would point to a knowledge of guilt

No shit…”privileged” meaning “shit we need to hide”.

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retired cynic  Dec 16, 2017 • 1:21:32pm

The Rude Pundit had a good essay on how to proceed after “the Minor Miracle in Alabama.” I can’t quote him here, because ****, but it’s good!

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Nyet  Dec 16, 2017 • 1:24:23pm

Meanwhile our Nazi-sympathizing ex-lizard asshole:

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dangerman  Dec 16, 2017 • 1:24:50pm

re: #38 Eclectic Cyborg

Seriously. Their idiotic base will believe anything that goes out, even if it’s retracted or proven false later.

There is no retraction or proven false later
There is only the original thing that goes out

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 16, 2017 • 1:27:07pm

re: #50 Nyet

It is a pity he does not know how to use spell-check. ballets should be ballots.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 16, 2017 • 1:27:12pm

re: #48 TedStriker

No shit…”privileged” meaning “shit we need to hide”.

H o p e H i c k s

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makeitstop  Dec 16, 2017 • 1:29:52pm

re: #53 Stanley Sea

H o p e H i c k s

yep yep yep yep yep yep

She was Trump’s gatekeeper.

She testified recently, yeah?

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dangerman  Dec 16, 2017 • 1:31:46pm

re: #49 retired cynic

The Rude Pundit had a good essay on how to proceed after “the Minor Miracle in Alabama.” I can’t quote him here, because ****, but it’s good!

… African American women are trying to save this country from the stupidity of our inexhaustible white ignorance

.

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dangerman  Dec 16, 2017 • 1:33:02pm

re: #50 Nyet

Meanwhile our Nazi-sympathizing ex-lizard asshole:

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“Ballets”? Wtf?

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 16, 2017 • 1:34:20pm

re: #56 dangerman

He has the “Nutcracker” on his mind. /

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 16, 2017 • 1:35:25pm

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Stanley Sea  Dec 16, 2017 • 1:36:36pm

re: #54 makeitstop

yep yep yep yep yep yep

She was Trump’s gatekeeper.

She testified recently, yeah?

yup

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BigPapa  Dec 16, 2017 • 1:39:00pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 16, 2017 • 1:40:10pm

re: #50 Nyet

Meanwhile our Nazi-sympathizing ex-lizard asshole:

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I am glad he flounced when he did.

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Nyet  Dec 16, 2017 • 1:40:16pm

re: #60 BigPapa

hahaha

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 16, 2017 • 1:41:22pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 16, 2017 • 1:42:09pm

From RP’s post and I agree 100%:
Democrats keep wanting to pretend that racist fucknuts can be appealed to based on class. It’s a comforting lie that is proven to be bullshit time and again. Roy Moore got 68% of the white vote, and that motherfucker was a wretched candidate before it was revealed he finger-fucked a 14 year-old. This country doesn’t belong exclusively to white people anymore. The Republicans are fighting a desperate battle to try to maintain that white dominance. They will lose.
This is very true. And it’s frustrating that so many in the party’s left refuse to see it.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Dec 16, 2017 • 1:44:27pm

re: #63 FormerDirtDart

With continuing deaths from regional skirmishes inflamed by the Partition still racking up.

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makeitstop  Dec 16, 2017 • 1:45:28pm
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Nyet  Dec 16, 2017 • 1:46:58pm

re: #66 makeitstop

He didn’t expect to be a bottom.

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dangerman  Dec 16, 2017 • 1:47:35pm

re: #64 HappyWarrior

From RP’s post and I agree 100%:
Democrats keep wanting to pretend that racist fucknuts can be appealed to based on class. It’s a comforting lie that is proven to be bullshit time and again. Roy Moore got 68% of the white vote, and that motherfucker was a wretched candidate before it was revealed he finger-fucked a 14 year-old. This country doesn’t belong exclusively to white people anymore. The Republicans are fighting a desperate battle to try to maintain that white dominance. They will lose.
This is very true. And it’s frustrating that so many in the party’s left refuse to see it.

we don’t want them. They are racist fucknutz.
And as the post says if we act smarter, we don’t need em

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 16, 2017 • 1:48:45pm

re: #66 makeitstop

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Also, Number 2, if you get my drift.

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dangerman  Dec 16, 2017 • 1:50:05pm

re: #66 makeitstop

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Rcp spread average up to -21. Highest so far

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 16, 2017 • 1:52:37pm

re: #52 PhillyPretzel

It is a pity he does not know how to use spell-check. ballets should be ballots.

and “subdevision”

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 16, 2017 • 1:58:18pm

re: #71 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yes.

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Belafon  Dec 16, 2017 • 2:09:38pm

re: #47 Stanley Sea

ha ha Nelson

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Cheechako  Dec 16, 2017 • 2:10:11pm

I do believe Mueller has an insurance policy in his inside jacket pocket. The insurance would is in the form of multiple Sealed Indictments for most of the trump crime family. If he’s fired and among all the resulting confusion, these Indictments could become Unsealed within 30 minutes.

trump needs to be afraid…very afraid. He just doesn’t have the intelligence to match up with Mueller.

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Nyet  Dec 16, 2017 • 2:10:41pm

But the Clinton emails!!!!1

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allegro  Dec 16, 2017 • 2:12:44pm

re: #74 Cheechako

I do believe Mueller has an insurance policy in his inside jacket pocket. The insurance would is in the form of multiple Sealed Indictments for most of the trump crime family. If he’s fired and among all the resulting confusion, these Indictments could become Unsealed within 30 minutes.

trump needs to be afraid…very afraid. He just doesn’t have the intelligence to match up with Mueller.

Pretty sure he has state AG back-up as well, especially NY AG Schneiderman. I doubt there are any holes in the trap for escape.

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mmmirele  Dec 16, 2017 • 2:12:54pm

re: #74 Cheechako

I do believe Mueller has an insurance policy in his inside jacket pocket. The insurance would is in the form of multiple Sealed Indictments for most of the trump crime family. If he’s fired and among all the resulting confusion, these Indictments could become Unsealed within 30 minutes.

trump needs to be afraid…very afraid. He just doesn’t have the intelligence to match up with Mueller.

I also hope he’s been carefully sharing information with Schneiderman and other relevant state attorneys general.

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Nyet  Dec 16, 2017 • 2:14:32pm

There’s also a hope that Rosenstein would serve as a buffer for firing. Trump would have to fire him first.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 16, 2017 • 2:18:12pm

Stolen California Voter Database Held For Ransom in Bitcoin:
gizmodo.com (more)

An Amazon AWS server believed to contain files on all of California’s registered voters was left exposed this year due to a misconfigured database, according to researchers at the Kromtech Security Center. The database was later stolen by cybercriminals demanding a ransom only payable in bitcoin.

Kromtech told Gizmodo that it collected samples from the database earlier this year while examining thousands of servers left publicly exposed. Each of the servers had installed a database platform known as MongoDB, which was widely misconfigured and vulnerable to attack.

While re-examining the data samples earlier this month, Kromtech discovered what appeared to be 4 GB of voter files linked to the State of California. By that time, however, the server had been swept up in a wave of ransomware attacks, which reportedly infected more than 32,000 MongoDB installations as early as January 2017.

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Belafon  Dec 16, 2017 • 2:18:41pm

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Cheechako  Dec 16, 2017 • 2:19:10pm

re: #78 Nyet

There’s also a hope that Rosenstein would serve as a buffer for firing. Trump would have to fire him first.

Of course firing Rosenstein would be the tip-off for Mueller that he’s next. Plenty of time to unseal indictments.

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Nyet  Dec 16, 2017 • 2:21:18pm

He would also have to appoint some total toady as the Acting AG.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 16, 2017 • 2:27:00pm

Ya know… Now that you mention it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 16, 2017 • 2:33:16pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 16, 2017 • 2:36:27pm

LOLOLOLOLOLOL!

They are definitely askeert.

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Belafon  Dec 16, 2017 • 2:37:08pm
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jaunte  Dec 16, 2017 • 2:38:36pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 16, 2017 • 2:39:36pm
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Stanley Sea  Dec 16, 2017 • 2:40:22pm

re: #85 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLOLOLOLOLOL!

They are definitely askeert.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 16, 2017 • 2:40:34pm

re: #49 retired cynic

The Rude Pundit had a good essay on how to proceed after “the Minor Miracle in Alabama.” I can’t quote him here, because ****, but it’s good!

“(Correction: An earlier version of this said that Moore received 92% of the white vote. That was wrong and based on early exit polls. It was 68%. Still disgraceful, just not completely horrifying. Thanks to rude reader Rose for making sure I’m not putting out fake news.)”

So he corrected his facts, but maintained his conclusions. Fuck him and his self-defeating divisiveness.

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 16, 2017 • 2:42:13pm

re: #85 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLOLOLOLOLOL!

They are definitely askeert.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Dec 16, 2017 • 2:43:06pm

re: #89 Stanley Sea

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lol, they should have used a private server..

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bill d. (b.d.)  Dec 16, 2017 • 2:44:09pm

IF YOU HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE THEN WHY ARE YOU WORRIED ABOUT SNOOPING!?!?

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retired cynic  Dec 16, 2017 • 2:46:03pm

re: #88 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Soon, please. Soon!

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Stanley Sea  Dec 16, 2017 • 2:46:29pm

re: #92 bill d. (b.d.)

lol, they should have used a private server..

Doesn’t the prince & princess kush possess a private server?

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ericblair  Dec 16, 2017 • 2:48:21pm

re: #85 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump lawyer: Mueller violated executive privilege by improperly obtaining transition documents in Russia probe | fxn.ws

Trump team complains that opponent improperly obtained electronic communications and is using said communications against them. Irony fell over, caught fire, exploded, and then imploded into a micro black hole.

Also: I have absolutely no doubt that Mueller crossed every t and dotted every i in getting them.

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jaunte  Dec 16, 2017 • 2:48:22pm
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bill d. (b.d.)  Dec 16, 2017 • 2:49:09pm

re: #95 Stanley Sea

Doesn’t the prince & princess kush possess a private server?

It’s leveraged, I’m sure.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 16, 2017 • 2:51:35pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 16, 2017 • 2:53:10pm
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goddamnedfrank  Dec 16, 2017 • 2:58:55pm

re: #85 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLOLOLOLOLOL!

They are definitely askeert.

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How the fuck would executive privilege attach to transition docs created before Trump was President?

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Cheechako  Dec 16, 2017 • 3:00:23pm

re: #101 goddamnedfrank

How the fuck would executive privilege attach to transition docs created before Trump was President?

I perceive feces being thrown against a very slippery wall.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Dec 16, 2017 • 3:00:56pm

I trust Mueller has this all planned out and has preparations for when Hair Furor fires him.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Dec 16, 2017 • 3:01:38pm

re: #101 goddamnedfrank

How the fuck would executive privilege attach to transition docs created before Trump was President?

Executive-elect privilege.

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jaunte  Dec 16, 2017 • 3:03:54pm
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Belafon  Dec 16, 2017 • 3:04:29pm

re: #84 Backwoods_Sleuth

Democrats in Congress and a Democratic president always vote to raise their own taxes. Republicans always vote to lower theirs.

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jaunte  Dec 16, 2017 • 3:05:12pm

Turns out trying to run a huge government with multiple agencies like a small nepotistic name-licensing business is hard.

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BigPapa  Dec 16, 2017 • 3:06:48pm

Let Trump bloviate about her 33,000 emails now.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 16, 2017 • 3:18:47pm

re: #105 jaunte

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Targetpractice  Dec 16, 2017 • 3:19:28pm

Trump lawyers argue that getting emails directly from email server rather than subpoenaing them from the sender(s) is illegal.

2017 seems to be the year that Irony died a very public death.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 16, 2017 • 3:22:27pm
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dangerman  Dec 16, 2017 • 3:24:21pm

re: #89 Stanley Sea

The “private documents” in question were .gov email accounts lol

This is part of a coordinated campaign to undermine Mueller featuring members of Congress, Super PACs, Fox News, the Justice Department and others

besides which i’d be surprised if mueller’s team “improperly obtained” anything

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austin_blue  Dec 16, 2017 • 3:24:50pm

re: #110 Targetpractice

Trump lawyers argue that getting emails directly from email server rather than subpoenaing them from the sender(s) is illegal.

2017 seems to be the year that Irony died a very public death.

Not enough popcorn in the world.

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Belafon  Dec 16, 2017 • 3:24:54pm
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Belafon  Dec 16, 2017 • 3:25:51pm

re: #113 austin_blue

Not enough popcorn in the world.

I saw someone using the word popcorning. At this point, it probably needs to be a verb.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 16, 2017 • 3:29:27pm

re: #111 Charles Johnson

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Sheesh.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 16, 2017 • 3:30:20pm

re: #97 jaunte

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Trying to shut down the investigation any way possible.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 16, 2017 • 3:32:42pm

re: #111 Charles Johnson

I don’t understand why none of these assholes realizes that the shi5 6hey post never goes away. And, someone has a screenshot. Learning shouldn’t be this hard for an adult.

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Targetpractice  Dec 16, 2017 • 3:32:42pm

So remember, folks: If you’re a Democrat and you label emails “private” and don’t turn those over, you’re “withholding evidence” and that’s proof that you’re a criminal.

But if you’re a Republican and you label them “privileged,” then investigators can’t see them without it being a major crime.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 16, 2017 • 3:33:49pm

re: #119 Targetpractice

So remember, folks: If you’re a Democrat and you label emails “private” and don’t turn those over, you’re “withholding evidence” and that’s proof that you’re a criminal.

But if you’re a Republican and you label them “privileged,” then investigators can’t see them without it being a major crime.

Hillary belongs in jail, Trump belongs on Mount Rushmore. Wingnuts logic.

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jaunte  Dec 16, 2017 • 3:34:11pm
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bill d. (b.d.)  Dec 16, 2017 • 3:34:26pm

If Trump does can Mueller what will all of these conservatives do?

(besides pretend to be shocked then vote for the next wingnut, no matter who)

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jaunte  Dec 16, 2017 • 3:35:09pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 16, 2017 • 3:35:11pm

re: #121 jaunte

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And you people cry over paper cups.

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 16, 2017 • 3:37:39pm

re: #105 jaunte

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Stanley Sea  Dec 16, 2017 • 3:38:42pm
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VegasGolfer  Dec 16, 2017 • 3:38:52pm

re: #121 jaunte

So when people on our side like me are also armed, if all hell breaks loose, will have an easy time rounding up more guns and ammo from these lazy, fat, white militia “warriors”.

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retired cynic  Dec 16, 2017 • 3:40:40pm

Well, well! abcnews.go.com

When President Donald Trump announced two months ago that he would not certify Iran’s compliance with the nuclear deal, he automatically triggered a 60-day review period during which Congress could decide to snap tough economic sanctions on Iran back into place — a move that would effectively kill the landmark nuclear arms agreement.

That review period expired Tuesday, and the results are in: Congress chose not to act.

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 16, 2017 • 3:40:40pm

Hmmm, gotta wonder what’s spurring these incidents.

Common sense requires that I limit you to a single guess…

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A dark and stormy covfefe  Dec 16, 2017 • 3:43:52pm

re: #129 FormerDirtDart

I know! I know! Economic anxiety!

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makeitstop  Dec 16, 2017 • 3:44:14pm

re: #99 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I can’t wait to see that.

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BeachDem  Dec 16, 2017 • 3:45:11pm

re: #101 goddamnedfrank

How the fuck would executive privilege attach to transition docs created before Trump was President?

You gonna doubt this guy?
/

Kory Langhofer, counsel to the transition team known as Trump for America, Inc., wrote a letter to congressional committees to say Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s team had improperly received the emails from the General Services Administration, a government agency.

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 16, 2017 • 3:46:42pm

re: #107 jaunte

Turns out trying to run a huge government with multiple agencies like a small nepotistic name-licensing business is hard.

Nobody knew!

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allegro  Dec 16, 2017 • 3:47:48pm

re: #126 Stanley Sea

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DId not see that coming.Cannot. Stop. Laughing.

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makeitstop  Dec 16, 2017 • 3:49:19pm

re: #132 BeachDem

You gonna doubt this guy?
/

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Kory Langhofer, counsel to the transition team known as Trump for America, Inc., wrote a letter to congressional committees to say Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s team had improperly received the emails from the General Services Administration, a government agency.

Everyone who works for Trump looks like they belong in the Endless Cavalcade of Punchable Faces.

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BeachDem  Dec 16, 2017 • 3:50:33pm

re: #135 makeitstop

Everyone who works for Trump looks like they belong in the Endless Cavalcade of Punchable Faces.

And really bad hair.

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Belafon  Dec 16, 2017 • 3:51:05pm

re: #135 makeitstop

Everyone who works for Trump looks like they belong in the Endless Cavalcade of Punchable Faces.

We should run all of their images through google and get the generic punchable American. Also useful to tell who should be arrested for precrime.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 16, 2017 • 3:51:10pm

re: #135 makeitstop

Everyone who works for Trump looks like they belong in the Endless Cavalcade of Punchable Faces.

Punchable face candidates have punchable face advisers.

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Cheechako  Dec 16, 2017 • 3:53:58pm

re: #132 BeachDem

You gonna doubt this guy?
/

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Kory Langhofer, counsel to the transition team known as Trump for America, Inc., wrote a letter to congressional committees to say Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s team had improperly received the emails from the General Services Administration, a government agency.

Actually it’s quite nice that the trumpettes bring up all their proposed legal strategies up early so the Government can prepare for them.

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austin_blue  Dec 16, 2017 • 3:54:47pm

re: #132 BeachDem

You gonna doubt this guy?
/

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Kory Langhofer, counsel to the transition team known as Trump for America, Inc., wrote a letter to congressional committees to say Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s team had improperly received the emails from the General Services Administration, a government agency.

Dear Kory, you miserable idiot;

The Special Prosecutor, Mr. Mueller, is an extraordinary lawyer and knows the intricacies of Government law as if he had written it. To wit- the Transition Team had no granted Executive Privilege, used a GSA server which has a .gov, address, and the Special Prosecutor has wide latitude to request .gov property and documents without subpoena, SINCE HE IS WORKING DIRECTLY FOR THE GOVERNMENT.

Thanks for being such a special snowflake!

Love, America

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bill d. (b.d.)  Dec 16, 2017 • 3:56:41pm

The wingnuts should direct their tantrums at the GSA, after they figure out what a GSA is and that we have one.

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makeitstop  Dec 16, 2017 • 3:58:51pm

Results of the interviews….

Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury

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TedStriker  Dec 16, 2017 • 4:03:26pm

re: #132 BeachDem

You gonna doubt this guy?
/

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Kory Langhofer, counsel to the transition team known as Trump for America, Inc., wrote a letter to congressional committees to say Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s team had improperly received the emails from the General Services Administration, a government agency.

re: #140 austin_blue

Dear Kory, you miserable idiot;

The Special Prosecutor, Mr. Mueller, is an extraordinary lawyer and knows the intricacies of Government law as if he had written it. To wit- the Transition Team had no granted Executive Privilege, used a GSA server which has a .gov, address, and the Special Prosecutor has wide latitude to request .gov property and documents without subpoena, SINCE HE IS WORKING DIRECTLY FOR THE GOVERNMENT.

Thanks for being such a special snowflake!

Love, America

re: #142 makeitstop

Results of the interviews….

Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury

I guarantee Trump & Co. are trying to go for a “fruit of the poisonous tree” strategy with this.

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austin_blue  Dec 16, 2017 • 4:03:34pm

re: #142 makeitstop

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Results of the interviews….

Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury Perjury

Wait, what? We could have asked the GSA if they had turned over all of our e-mails from the transition to the SP and they would have had to tell us “Yes”? And we didn’t ask before we all talked to the SP? And our answers were all based on the fact that we didn’t think he had them?

And you think that this qualifies as a Bad Thing? Really? Why?

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makeitstop  Dec 16, 2017 • 4:04:54pm

re: #143 TedStriker

“fruit of the poisonous tree”

AKA what people call his kids.

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austin_blue  Dec 16, 2017 • 4:05:53pm

re: #143 TedStriker

I guarantee Trump & Co. are trying to go for a “fruit of the poisonous tree” strategy with this.

They might as well argue that it was the result of Evil Haitian Juju. They are so fucked if they perjured themselves before the SP under oath.

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thecommodore  Dec 16, 2017 • 4:06:20pm

Meanwhile from the underground command post, The Great One offers this:

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ObserverArt  Dec 16, 2017 • 4:07:30pm

All I have to say is; Trump hires the best lawyers.

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TedStriker  Dec 16, 2017 • 4:08:22pm

re: #146 austin_blue

They might as well argue that it was the result of Evil Haitian Juju. They are so fucked if they perjured themselves before the SP under oath.

If they are playing the “fruit of the poisonous tree” gambit, watch them try to say that any questioning Mueller did using those emails as reference material is immediately suspect and should be disallowed.

Watch them.

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ObserverArt  Dec 16, 2017 • 4:09:53pm

Interesting. I’m watching the Ohio State men’s basketball game on TV and all of a sudden a siren went off and there is a voice coming onto the PA systems asking everyone to evacuate. It’s at the Schott on Ohio State Campus.

I’ve never seen this.

Edit to add: If anyone is interested, it’s on the Big Ten Network if you can get it.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 16, 2017 • 4:10:33pm

re: #147 thecommodore

Meanwhile from the underground command post, The Great One offers this:

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You support Trump, stfu about fascist anything.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Dec 16, 2017 • 4:10:56pm
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BigPapa  Dec 16, 2017 • 4:11:37pm
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austin_blue  Dec 16, 2017 • 4:12:01pm

re: #149 TedStriker

If they are playing the “fruit of the poisonous tree” gambit, watch them try to say that any questioning Mueller did, using those emails as reference material, is immediately suspect and should be disallowed.

Watch them.

It should be wonderfully entertaining, especially for the judges listening to that argument.

“Excuse me, counselor, but I just laughed my ass off and I need a clerk to get in here and reattach it.”

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TedStriker  Dec 16, 2017 • 4:12:13pm

re: #152 bill d. (b.d.)

What you project upon your enemies, Cheeto Benito, you shamelessly do for real.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 16, 2017 • 4:12:23pm

re: #152 bill d. (b.d.)

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Damn that idiot blocked me from getting in on the fun. Looks like we might have entered into the Endgame and Trump is a whole rook down.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Dec 16, 2017 • 4:13:33pm

re: #147 thecommodore

Meanwhile from the underground command post, The Great One offers this:

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Has anyone made a deck of playing cards with the Trump minions on them, like we did during the Gulf War?

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BigPapa  Dec 16, 2017 • 4:14:05pm

I’m such a dork

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austin_blue  Dec 16, 2017 • 4:16:11pm

re: #157 The Vicious Babushka

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Nice birthday, VB? Get lots of Stuff? (And love, of course.)

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austin_blue  Dec 16, 2017 • 4:18:21pm

re: #159 BigPapa

I’m such a dork

Whaddja do this time, you big lunk?!?!

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BigPapa  Dec 16, 2017 • 4:20:31pm

re: #161 austin_blue

Whaddja do this time, you big lunk?!?!

I put out a List of 7 words Trump is going to ban. But there was only six. Thankfully a MAGAt caught it early before my career ending mistake went viral.

This is my one mistake of the day, so the good news is I won’t screw anything else up for another several hours. Though I may try.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Dec 16, 2017 • 4:20:42pm

re: #156 Joe Bacon 🌹

Damn that idiot blocked me from getting in on the fun. Looks like we might have entered into the Endgame and Trump is a whole rook down.

Donnie has a tweet for everything:

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Belafon  Dec 16, 2017 • 4:21:21pm

“We’re not at fault! Mueller got the answers before the test!”

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BigPapa  Dec 16, 2017 • 4:22:40pm

Trumpkins know something is going to go down and they’re throwing up anything and everything they can think of, even lawyerly letters to Congress they leak on a Saturday.

Some shit is about to go down.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 16, 2017 • 4:25:15pm
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austin_blue  Dec 16, 2017 • 4:25:15pm

It certainly appears so. A very gifty holiday season for us?

Oh, goody goody goody!

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bill d. (b.d.)  Dec 16, 2017 • 4:26:16pm

re: #167 austin_blue

It certainly appears so. A very gifty holiday season for us?

Oh, goody goody goody!

We’ll be saying Merry Christmas again, yes sirree.

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ObserverArt  Dec 16, 2017 • 4:27:13pm

re: #166 Stanley Sea

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Heh. On TV they said they thought the building air management system triggered the alarm to evacuate as some smoke was getting into the system.

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makeitstop  Dec 16, 2017 • 4:27:31pm

Renato Mariotti gives us an explanation. Thread.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 16, 2017 • 4:28:59pm

Fox Snooze is getting desperate. Desperate!

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ipsos  Dec 16, 2017 • 4:29:40pm

re: #157 The Vicious Babushka


On the fifth night of Chanukah, my sister gave to me… a pair of Obama socks!
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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 16, 2017 • 4:30:41pm

Need a break in the weather dammit.

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austin_blue  Dec 16, 2017 • 4:32:05pm

re: #172 ipsos

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On the fifth night of Chanukah, my sister gave to me… a pair of Obama socks!

He’s gonna gnaw on your polkies.

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ObserverArt  Dec 16, 2017 • 4:32:50pm

re: #173 Unshaken Defiance

Need a break in the weather dammit.

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Any of the Cali Lizards in peril? Isn’t Darth from Santa Barbara? What is your own situation?

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 16, 2017 • 4:33:01pm

If you really want to see bot/troll infestation, look at one of Adam Schiff’s tweets about existential threats to House investigations.

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BigPapa  Dec 16, 2017 • 4:33:57pm

re: #175 ObserverArt

Any of the Cali Lizards in peril? Isn’t Darth from Santa Barbara? What is your own situation?

Darth is Bay Area.

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ObserverArt  Dec 16, 2017 • 4:35:17pm

re: #177 BigPapa

Darth is Bay Area.

Thanks. Just worried for folk.

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BigPapa  Dec 16, 2017 • 4:38:15pm

re: #178 ObserverArt

Yeah, me too.

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BeachDem  Dec 16, 2017 • 4:38:30pm

So, I guess golfing with the yam, promoting the yam’s properties and lying for the yam wasn’t enough. Lindsey Graham is also participating in Sinclair’s propaganda broadcasts with the irrepressible Boris Epshteyn:

Seated across from Graham was Boris Epshteyn, whom a chyron described as “Chief Political Analyst.”

The 90-second segment, focusing on Graham’s efforts to repeal Obamacare, finished without any concluding remarks from Epshteyn or throwbacks to the show’s hosts. Instead, Graham warned the “Chief Political Analyst” that “if we don’t replace Obamacare, we’re going to have socialism for health care.” Then the screen faded to black and the station cut to its standard intro for “NBC25 News Today,” replete with all the whooshing transition graphics and b-roll one would expect.

And as if Flint doesn’t have enough to deal with—Sinclair has a major presence in Flint, owning or operating the local Fox, NBC and CW affiliates.

huffingtonpost.com
Ugh. Ugh. Ugh.

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jaunte  Dec 16, 2017 • 4:38:44pm
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austin_blue  Dec 16, 2017 • 4:40:11pm

re: #175 ObserverArt

Any of the Cali Lizards in peril? Isn’t Darth from Santa Barbara? What is your own situation?

Per CalFire:

Santa Barbara: Firefighters will continue constructing direct fireline where possible with support from air resources, working to tie in to the Tea fire and Jesusita fire footprints. Crews will remain engaged in structure defense operations. The threat to the communities of Santa Barbara, Carpinteria, Summerland and Montecito will continue

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Danack  Dec 16, 2017 • 4:40:24pm

re: #156 Joe Bacon 🌹

Damn that idiot blocked me from getting in on the fun. Looks like we might have entered into the Endgame and Trump is a whole rook down.

I think Trump thinks they’re playing checkers…

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 16, 2017 • 4:40:26pm

re: #175 ObserverArt

Thanks for asking. The fire has impacted everybody. Be it smoke, or evacuations, or the damage to the counties economies… Since my wife has asthma, we have two rooms all set up for extra filtration, best air filters we can get.

The air today in Los Angeles was just weird. For some hours we had offshore winds, blew lots of smoke back in at altitude, then it settled to ground again. The air was golden brown. Now the Santa Ana winds are back, cleared my air but raised hell in Santa Barbara.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 16, 2017 • 4:42:20pm
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austin_blue  Dec 16, 2017 • 4:42:45pm

Gotta go to the neighbors’ holiday party. BBL.

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BigPapa  Dec 16, 2017 • 4:42:57pm

As if Mueller would be stupid or capricious enough to illegally obtain emails.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Dec 16, 2017 • 4:47:11pm

Mueller should say that he got the emails through Wikileaks.

//

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makeitstop  Dec 16, 2017 • 4:49:28pm

They’re just going to repeat the lie until all the cultists believe them.

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 16, 2017 • 4:50:09pm

re: #187 BigPapa

Ooops had to fix that

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teleskiguy  Dec 16, 2017 • 4:51:28pm

test

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teleskiguy  Dec 16, 2017 • 4:55:01pm

Experiencing mucho problems on the site. The test comment above, I hit “Post It” and I get kicked back to the front page. None of the buttons work, can’t ding, nothing happens when I click a user icon, nothing happens when I click menu options in the upper right. I’ve used two different browsers, Opera and Chrome.

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ObserverArt  Dec 16, 2017 • 4:56:08pm

re: #189 makeitstop

They’re just going to repeat the lie until all the cultists believe them.

So that means tomorrow’s political shows on TV will be ripe with outraged Republican politicians and pundits.

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 16, 2017 • 4:56:09pm

re: #192 teleskiguy

Better clear everything out and restart. Got cc cleaner?

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bill d. (b.d.)  Dec 16, 2017 • 4:56:11pm

re: #192 teleskiguy

Experiencing mucho problems on the site. The test comment above, I hit “Post It” and I get kicked back to the front page. None of the buttons work, can’t ding, nothing happens when I click a user icon, nothing happens when I click menu options in the upper right. I’ve used two different browsers, Opera and Chrome.

funky…no problems here….chrome

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retired cynic  Dec 16, 2017 • 4:56:54pm

re: #195 bill d. (b.d.)

funky…no problems here….chrome

No problems here … Safari

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 16, 2017 • 4:58:12pm

Meanwhile Jared gets PUNKED!

Kushner at Saban

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retired cynic  Dec 16, 2017 • 4:59:15pm

Just finished my Saturday depressing reading with this contribution by Ruth May to the Dallas News: How Putin’s proxies helped funnel millions into GOP campaigns. Bless May; she did a good job of putting a lot together! She “is a business professor at the University of Dallas and an expert on the economies of Russia and Ukraine.”

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 16, 2017 • 5:00:04pm

re: #175 ObserverArt

This is for our employees, paying them before we fully reopen and need them and helping in the holiday season. Not a cent for the facility, which is insured. In fact we are partly open, mostly just critical law enforcement training classes.

gofundme.com

Couple edits, cut paste is not my friend tonight…

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makeitstop  Dec 16, 2017 • 5:02:58pm

re: #193 ObserverArt

So that means tomorrow’s political shows on TV will be ripe with outraged Republican politicians and pundits.

Pretty much.

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makeitstop  Dec 16, 2017 • 5:06:26pm

Something to keep in mind, because the screaming about Mueller is only going to get louder:

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Citizen K  Dec 16, 2017 • 5:06:32pm

re: #193 ObserverArt

How long until the NYT decides to echo the argument without any qualifications or context and cast aspersions against Mueller as well?

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teleskiguy  Dec 16, 2017 • 5:08:15pm

Yeah, cleared caches, restarted the whole damn computer. Still very funky. The site is damn near unusable for me. :(

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prairiefire  Dec 16, 2017 • 5:10:44pm

re: #198 retired cynic

Just finished my Saturday depressing reading with this contribution by Ruth May to the Dallas News: How Putin’s proxies helped funnel millions into GOP campaigns. Bless May; she did a good job of putting a lot together! She “is a business professor at the University of Dallas and an expert on the economies of Russia and Ukraine.”

I hope she has a good security system on her home.

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De Kolta Chair  Dec 16, 2017 • 5:14:48pm

Ugh

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 16, 2017 • 5:15:10pm

re: #205 prairiefire

Thanks to Trumps proposed off book intel division, we all need it.

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teleskiguy  Dec 16, 2017 • 5:18:20pm

Hmm. Things are back to normal? Let’s see if I get kicked back to the front page after I post this here comment. And…

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teleskiguy  Dec 16, 2017 • 5:18:42pm

re: #208 teleskiguy

OK, looks like things are back to normal. Phew!

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teleskiguy  Dec 16, 2017 • 5:19:34pm

That was really weird.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 16, 2017 • 5:20:38pm

Cheezus

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 16, 2017 • 5:21:53pm

re: #210 teleskiguy

Trumps cyber spooks fucking with us. ///

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jaunte  Dec 16, 2017 • 5:22:12pm

re: #211 The Vicious Babushka

What we we saying about punchable faces?

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 16, 2017 • 5:22:39pm

re: #211 The Vicious Babushka

Cheezus

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This is basically Info Wars.

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ObserverArt  Dec 16, 2017 • 5:23:19pm

re: #211 The Vicious Babushka

Cheezus

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Partisan News says what about partisan politicians calling others partisan?

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teleskiguy  Dec 16, 2017 • 5:23:27pm

re: #212 Unshaken Defiance

I’m still seeing little things that are… off. Like when I click number of dings, that kicks me back to the front page.

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De Kolta Chair  Dec 16, 2017 • 5:23:36pm
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jaunte  Dec 16, 2017 • 5:24:10pm
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prairiefire  Dec 16, 2017 • 5:25:14pm

re: #207 Unshaken Defiance

Thanks to Trumps proposed off book intel division, we all need it.

He better not pick up Putin’s habit of having them off’ed.

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ObserverArt  Dec 16, 2017 • 5:25:53pm

re: #216 teleskiguy

I’m still seeing little things that are… off. Like when I click number of dings, that kicks me back to the front page.

Other sites load okay and function properly?

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teleskiguy  Dec 16, 2017 • 5:27:53pm

re: #220 ObserverArt

Other sites load okay and function properly?

So far. I just sat down in front of the darned computer for the first time today, so sample size of sites visited is still small.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 16, 2017 • 5:29:27pm

Cheebus on roller skates on a barbed wire tightrope over the Thomas Fire.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 16, 2017 • 5:29:59pm

re: #217 De Kolta Chair

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Seriously how many Trump voters do we need to hear from?

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Belafon  Dec 16, 2017 • 5:30:29pm

re: #204 teleskiguy

Yeah, cleared caches, restarted the whole damn computer. Still very funky. The site is damn near unusable for me. :(

That happened to me at work when the browser was behind the features this site requires. Maybe something got set funny.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 16, 2017 • 5:31:07pm

re: #222 The Vicious Babushka

Cheebus on roller skates on a barbed wire tightrope over the Thomas Fire.

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He creates negative coverage by being himself. It shouldn’t be 50/50 if Trump acts like an ass the way he does.

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teleskiguy  Dec 16, 2017 • 5:31:10pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 16, 2017 • 5:34:40pm

re: #223 HappyWarrior

Seriously how many Trump voters do we need to hear from?

Well, the Presstitutes at CNN believe Every Trump Voter deserves to be heard from.

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scottslemmons  Dec 16, 2017 • 5:34:58pm

re: #211 The Vicious Babushka

Cheezus

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At this point, do you think Fox realizes their emails to Trump and the Russians are in Mueller’s files, too? Are they covering for Trump because they realize they could all go to jail, too, or are they dumb enough not to realize that all their pro-Trump coverage is going to go into evidence, too?

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 16, 2017 • 5:37:19pm

re: #228 scottslemmons

At this point, do you think Fox realizes their emails to Trump and the Russians are in Mueller’s files, too? Are they covering for Trump because they realize they could all go to jail, too, or are they dumb enough not to realize that all their pro-Trump coverage is going to go into evidence, too?

They’re being paid to broadcast propaganda and that’s what they are doing. It’s their job.

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De Kolta Chair  Dec 16, 2017 • 5:38:06pm

OT

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 16, 2017 • 5:39:33pm
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unproven innocence  Dec 16, 2017 • 5:40:13pm

re: #210 teleskiguy

That was really weird.

Couple weeks ago, I ran into multiple failures downloading some video files from a techie site. Turned out that my ISP had assigned to me a new public IPV4 address during that session. That usually only happens as a result of a local area power failure, or from my main router being powered off for more than a few minutes. A shutdown/restart cycle cleared up my issues.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 16, 2017 • 5:40:22pm

re: #231 The Vicious Babushka

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Just disgraceful.

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De Kolta Chair  Dec 16, 2017 • 5:40:57pm

OT #2, but very very important

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 16, 2017 • 5:42:36pm
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Skip Intro  Dec 16, 2017 • 5:45:00pm

re: #222 The Vicious Babushka

Cheebus on roller skates on a barbed wire tightrope over the Thomas Fire.

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Wonder why Fox didn’t include their coverage? Possibly because it’s always 100% pro Trump?

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De Kolta Chair  Dec 16, 2017 • 5:46:00pm
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teleskiguy  Dec 16, 2017 • 5:46:29pm

This is a big reason why I bring a bicycle on road trips outside of Colorado, I hide that shit in the tires. One time I got pulled over for speeding in Washington Parish, Louisiana, the cop leaned down to read my license plate and his head was literally inches from my stash in my bike tire, he didn’t suspect a thing.

77 in a 70 zone, $200 ticket, most expensive frivolous goddamn speeding ticket I’ve ever recieved.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Dec 16, 2017 • 5:46:46pm

re: #229 The Vicious Babushka

They’re being paid to broadcast propaganda and that’s what they are doing. It’s their job.

This particular bit scares the shit out of me. I frequently talk about how these people make things true because they don’t value veracity, but we’re moving into a new level of that where they’re experimenting with making things legal/illegal by misinformation.

Even if they fail in front of a judge, they’ve put this idea out there, and it will hang about just like birtherism, Benghazi, and Pizzagate, until it metastasizes.

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De Kolta Chair  Dec 16, 2017 • 5:47:03pm

Nice catch, and I’m sure Fox News is all over this story tonight:

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Stanley Sea  Dec 16, 2017 • 5:50:05pm

re: #218 jaunte

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Susan is on it.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 16, 2017 • 5:53:48pm

Trump wants to get away with this, too!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 16, 2017 • 5:54:05pm

I’m guessing that Camp David isn’t a very peaceful place tonight.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 16, 2017 • 5:55:32pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 16, 2017 • 5:55:56pm
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teleskiguy  Dec 16, 2017 • 5:57:10pm

re: #238 teleskiguy

That reminds me! On that same road trip we stopped at a rest area on the Georgia/Alabama state line to smoke some weed, my friend dropped the glass pipe we were using and it broke. We just left it there on the curb (why do some rest areas in the south have no trash cans?!?). Sure enough, someone found it and called the police. We were in the Lee County police blotter a few days later. Hilarious.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 16, 2017 • 5:57:55pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 16, 2017 • 5:59:35pm

Ugh. Just found out that a site I set up for a client was rooted because Wordpress wasn’t kept up to date. Wheee!

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Stanley Sea  Dec 16, 2017 • 6:00:06pm

re: #239 The Ghost of a Flea

This particular bit scares the shit out of me. I frequently talk about how these people make things true because they don’t value veracity, but we’re moving into a new level of that where they’re experimenting with making things legal/illegal by misinformation.

Even if they fail in front of a judge, they’ve put this idea out there, and it will hang about just like birtherism, Benghazi, and Pizzagate, until it metastasizes.

My Dad’s thinking abilities have been tragically altered.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 16, 2017 • 6:00:54pm

re: #243 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m guessing that Camp David isn’t a very peaceful place tonight.

Poor Barron. I think it’s his call to go there.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 16, 2017 • 6:01:57pm

these people…

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Skip Intro  Dec 16, 2017 • 6:02:46pm

re: #251 Backwoods_Sleuth

Pure evil.

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teleskiguy  Dec 16, 2017 • 6:04:31pm

re: #251 Backwoods_Sleuth

Don’t coups involves like, tanks and columns of soldiers closing in on government buildings?

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teleskiguy  Dec 16, 2017 • 6:05:59pm

There’s a goddamn tweet for everything.

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De Kolta Chair  Dec 16, 2017 • 6:06:30pm

If they’re going to release FBI agents’ e-mails, they should release the emails of all FBI agents. I’m interested in finding out who Giuliani’s pals in the department are.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 16, 2017 • 6:08:38pm

This is why I’m glad I use a custom-built content management system. Nobody’s exploiting a known vulnerability to hack LGF, because there ARE no known vulnerabilities.

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William Lewis  Dec 16, 2017 • 6:08:46pm

re: #248 Charles Johnson

Ugh. Just found out that a site I set up for a client was rooted because Wordpress wasn’t kept up to date. Wheee!

My church website (still down) had that happen even though l explicitly set it up to auto update. Nope. Same version as originally installed and some ass rooted and vandalized it.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 16, 2017 • 6:09:16pm
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Skip Intro  Dec 16, 2017 • 6:09:49pm

re: #251 Backwoods_Sleuth

these people…

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Looks like Kellyanne got her face reinflated.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 16, 2017 • 6:10:49pm
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Stanley Sea  Dec 16, 2017 • 6:10:55pm

re: #258 The Vicious Babushka

That DRESS.

State TV, made to appeal…………………….

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 16, 2017 • 6:11:59pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Dec 16, 2017 • 6:13:01pm

re: #249 Stanley Sea

My Dad’s thinking abilities have been tragically altered.

I’m sorry to hear that.

I’ve avoided it inside my own family, but it’s been eating away at my mother’s friendships with her contemporaries (in their 70s). I’m feeling it less in my close relationships, but a great deal in acquaintances (including, of all things, my PTSD group).

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 16, 2017 • 6:15:49pm

AUTOMATIC. BLOCKING. FUNCTION. TRIGGERED.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 16, 2017 • 6:16:28pm

I didn’t know anyone still used the #TGDN hashtag.

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Belafon  Dec 16, 2017 • 6:17:34pm

re: #260 The Vicious Babushka

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Stanley Sea  Dec 16, 2017 • 6:17:55pm

re: #263 The Ghost of a Flea

I’m sorry to hear that.

I’ve avoided it inside my own family, but it’s been eating away at my mother’s friendships with her contemporaries (in their 70s). I’m feeling it less in my close relationships, but a great deal in acquaintances (including, of all things, my PTSD group).

My dad didn’t like the yam, but voted for him over that woman.

On our last visit he mentioned how unfair the yam is treated. He’s been/being trained.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 16, 2017 • 6:20:38pm
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De Kolta Chair  Dec 16, 2017 • 6:21:13pm

Zachary Kanin

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gocart mozart  Dec 16, 2017 • 6:22:23pm

re: #247 Backwoods_Sleuth

This.

If I represent your spouse in a divorce action I will subpoena your wage records from your employer and your bank records from your bank. Don’t Fuck with me, your kids need their child support.

This is pretty common.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 16, 2017 • 6:22:43pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 16, 2017 • 6:23:06pm
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De Kolta Chair  Dec 16, 2017 • 6:24:17pm
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Eventual Carrion  Dec 16, 2017 • 6:25:20pm

re: #260 The Vicious Babushka

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The supreme court in 2000?

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The Ghost of a Flea  Dec 16, 2017 • 6:27:15pm

re: #267 Stanley Sea

I hear a lot of variations on “unfairness” and “let him do his thing” from people who have no idea what Trump’s positions are, or what fairness would be.

It’s scary because there’s zero followup. They don’t know or care what’s normal protocol, or what typical criticism, nor do they care to look at policy issues close enough to know what’s being achieved or not achieved.

Yet they’re completely confident they know enough, and get resentful if you know more. They don’t feel a burden of proof, expect others to convince them with exacting detail …and they won’t go look up stuff for themselves.

Like arguing in bad faith, but stupider, because you don’t know you’re doing it.

And they’re 90% white dudes, which I don’t think is a coincidence.

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De Kolta Chair  Dec 16, 2017 • 6:28:08pm
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garzooma  Dec 16, 2017 • 6:30:00pm

Get ready:
NOBODY IS ABOVE THE LAW—MUELLER FIRING RAPID RESPONSE

Donald Trump is publicly considering firing special counsel Robert Mueller, the person leading the Department of Justice investigation of possible illegal actions by Donald Trump and members of his presidential campaign, and the efforts to conceal those activities.

This would be a constitutional crisis for our country. It would demand an immediate and unequivocal response to show that we will not tolerate abuse of power from Donald Trump.

Our response in the minutes and hours following a power grab will dictate what happens next, and whether Congress—the only body with the constitutional power and obligation to rein Trump in from his rampage—will do anything to stand up to him.

That’s why we’re preparing to hold emergency “Nobody is Above the Law” rallies around the country in the event they are needed.

Use the map or search below by ZIP code to find an event near you, or create one if none exists.

Rallies will begin hours after news breaks of a Mueller firing:

If Mueller is fired BEFORE 2 P.M. local time —> events will begin @ 5 P.M. local time
If Mueller is fired AFTER 2 P.M. local time —> events will begin @ noon local time the following day
This is the general plan—please confirm details on your event page, as individual hosts may tailor their events to their local plan.
This is our moment to stand up to protect our democracy. Let’s mobilize to show that we won’t let Donald Trump become the authoritarian that he aspires to be. The law applies to all of us, and it’s essential that it also applies to the most powerful people in our country.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 16, 2017 • 6:31:20pm

Gee, Matt Taibbi is a sexual-harassing asshole. Who knew?

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 16, 2017 • 6:32:34pm

re: #257 William Lewis

My church website (still down) had that happen even though l explicitly set it up to auto update. Nope. Same version as originally installed and some ass rooted and vandalized it.

I paid for WordFence. Very helpful.

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Targetpractice  Dec 16, 2017 • 6:33:51pm

Here’s a hell of a question for the geniuses over at Fox: If the FBI was working to steal the election for Hillary, why didn’t they succeed? Is this part of the fantasy that says that Trump was such an awesome candidate that he beat a masssive “deep state” scheme to steal the election?

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De Kolta Chair  Dec 16, 2017 • 6:35:22pm

re: #278 The Vicious Babushka

Gee, Matt Taibbi is a sexual-harassing asshole. Who knew?

Off topic, but the actor in the middle of the frame, you probably already know, is the wonderful Marcel Dalio, also memorable in Jean Renoir’s La Grande Illusion, Howard Hawks’ To Have and Have Not and many other films during a long and distinguished career.

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scottslemmons  Dec 16, 2017 • 6:35:28pm

re: #280 Targetpractice

Here’s a hell of a question for the geniuses over at Fox: If the FBI was working to steal the election for Hillary, why didn’t they succeed? Is this part of the fantasy that says that Trump was such an awesome candidate that he beat a masssive “deep state” scheme to steal the election?

Republicans always think they’re victims.

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teleskiguy  Dec 16, 2017 • 6:35:35pm

re: #280 Targetpractice

40 DIMENSIONAL CHESS, BRAH!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 16, 2017 • 6:36:53pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 16, 2017 • 6:37:13pm

The FoxNews twitter feed is utterly fucked up.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Dec 16, 2017 • 6:37:52pm

re: #280 Targetpractice

Yes.

There is no operational logic, just an incredibly corny wish-fulfillment fantasy.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Dec 16, 2017 • 6:38:37pm

Mueller is a A target but not THE target of the current RWNJ campaign. Trump and his cronies hope to dismantle the federal law enforcement system, with a few exceptions like ICE, and replace it with Prince’s mercenaries, aided by various ad hoc church militia and RWNJ/fascist local and state police. Fear of the Feds is the ONLY thing that has held these savages in check for 50 years.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 16, 2017 • 6:41:48pm

re: #66 makeitstop

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And that atrocious tax bill will help to solidify his status as #1 at being the absolute worst president since polling began. Good.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 16, 2017 • 6:41:51pm
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bill d. (b.d.)  Dec 16, 2017 • 6:43:24pm

re: #278 The Vicious Babushka

Gee, Matt Taibbi is a sexual-harassing asshole. Who knew?

[Embedded content]

He used to live in Russia and his writings about what he did there and the women he encountered were all about him sexual harassing women there.

I thought it was common knowledge?

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 16, 2017 • 6:43:31pm
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wheat-dogg  Dec 16, 2017 • 6:44:14pm

re: #287 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Mueller is a A target but not THE target of the current RWNJ campaign. Trump and his cronies hope to dismantle the federal law enforcement system, with a few exceptions like ICE, and replace it with Prince’s mercenaries, aided by various ad hoc church militia and RWNJ/fascist local and state police. Fear of the Feds is the ONLY thing that has held these savages in check for 50 years.

I try not to become too tinfoil-hattish, but this scenario is plausible. The GOP is rife with sovcits, libertarians, preppers, religious nutjobs, white supremacists, and assorted paranoids, who all see the FBI and national LEOs as THE ENEMY.

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 16, 2017 • 6:44:28pm
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Pawn of the Oppressor  Dec 16, 2017 • 6:45:32pm

(In re: Fucks Nooz)

Their language is getting awfully floral and I can smell the melodrama through the screen. I wonder what talking points the Russian noise factories are pushing in the coming days. Fox is now indistinguishable from troll hyperbole.

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 16, 2017 • 6:45:37pm
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Stanley Sea  Dec 16, 2017 • 6:45:45pm

re: #290 bill d. (b.d.)

He used to live in Russia and his writings about what he did there and the women he encountered were all about him sexual harassing women there.

I thought it was common knowledge?

I read that article this morn. Had no idea about that rag he published. None.

They are both damaged, dangerous men.

Who got to where they are by shutting down women.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Dec 16, 2017 • 6:48:40pm

re: #296 Stanley Sea

I read that article this morn. Had no idea about that rag he published. None.

They are both damaged, dangerous men.

Who got to where they are by shutting down women.

Harassment was accused of him when he worked for Pierre/Greenwald too.

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ipsos  Dec 16, 2017 • 6:50:07pm

I’m thinking Shep Smith will be interesting on Monday (if he’s even on). How can he maintain even his usual minimal level of sanity amidst all the coup nonsense on the rest of the network?

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 16, 2017 • 6:50:11pm

re: #222 The Vicious Babushka

There should be no positive statements about Trump. He hasn’t done anything positive.

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makeitstop  Dec 16, 2017 • 6:50:37pm

This thread may be still in progress, but so far…damn.

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teleskiguy  Dec 16, 2017 • 6:51:00pm

It’s the Daily Caller. Still, I wouldn’t be surprised.

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Skip Intro  Dec 16, 2017 • 6:51:11pm

re: #298 ipsos

I’m thinking Shep Smith will be interesting on Monday (if he’s even on). How can he maintain even his usual minimal level of sanity amidst all the coup nonsense on the rest of the network?

Because he’s the Fox beard.

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Citizen K  Dec 16, 2017 • 6:52:32pm

re: #294 Pawn of the Oppressor

(In re: Fucks Nooz)

Their language is getting awfully floral and I can smell the melodrama through the screen. I wonder what talking points the Russian noise factories are pushing in the coming days. Fox is now indistinguishable from troll hyperbole.

Modern American Conservatism is basically indistinguishable from troll hyperbole these days.

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Jack Burton  Dec 16, 2017 • 6:54:26pm

Open letter to the GOP:

“We, the reasonable, sane citizens of The United States wish to express our extreme displeasure with your choice of President. Please remove him immediately. The fact that you have sent him here just goes to prove that you are the leading assholes in the nation.”

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Charles Johnson  Dec 16, 2017 • 6:55:03pm
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dell*nix  Dec 16, 2017 • 6:56:11pm

re: #260 The Vicious Babushka
Ex KGB?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 16, 2017 • 6:56:52pm

re: #301 teleskiguy

It’s the Daily Caller. Still, I wouldn’t be surprised.

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My, my, my! The same Tweety who was one of the Four Horsemen leading the charge on the Bill Clinton Penis Hunt got caught…

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ipsos  Dec 16, 2017 • 6:57:29pm

re: #305 Charles Johnson

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I don’t disagree.

Question is, if it gets to a fever pitch in the next 48 hours or so, how much worse does Congress look for still forcing a rushed tax bill vote?

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 16, 2017 • 6:58:49pm

re: #305 Charles Johnson

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freetoken  Dec 16, 2017 • 6:59:18pm

re: #305 Charles Johnson

I really can’t tell what is next.

Ultimately the Congress (both houses) have to do their duty, to which they swore to uphold.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 16, 2017 • 6:59:37pm

re: #308 ipsos

I don’t disagree.

Question is, if it gets to a fever pitch in the next 48 hours or so, how much worse does Congress look for still forcing a rushed tax bill vote?

They’re still gonna push that bill no matter what and Trump knows that once he signs that bill he is of no further use to the RepubliKKKlan Party.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Dec 16, 2017 • 6:59:50pm

Harry Reid’s 22 million dollar UFO ranch:
Department of Defense admits to running multi-million dollar UFO program

E.T., phone the Pentagon.

The Defense Department has acknowledged for the first time the existence of a far-out program dedicated to investigating UFO sightings.

The Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program was launched a decade ago at the urging of dedicated space lover and then-Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, The New York Times reported Saturday.

The “money quote” (literally):

The bulk of the budget was directed to an aerospace research company led by Reid’s friend Robert Bigelow, a billionaire Las Vegas entrepreneur.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Dec 16, 2017 • 7:01:03pm

re: #312 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Front page is pretty good too:

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De Kolta Chair  Dec 16, 2017 • 7:01:14pm

Too soon (the cgi redacted version)?

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whitebeach  Dec 16, 2017 • 7:01:33pm

re: #308 ipsos

I don’t disagree.

Question is, if it gets to a fever pitch in the next 48 hours or so, how much worse does Congress look for still forcing a rushed tax bill vote?

No offense, but in terms of what Charles is talking about, that is no more the “question” than who made the matches that started the Reichstag fire.

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teleskiguy  Dec 16, 2017 • 7:01:40pm
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rhuarc  Dec 16, 2017 • 7:04:41pm

Does anybody here really think if Trump fires Mueller that the Republicans in Congress will do anything? And when, IMO, they don’t do anything what happens? Nothing. We’ll be outraged while a lot of words will be spoken and typed out on the internet, but in the end it will be a new normal. The press will deploy their both siderism stance and treat this as something political when it’s probably criminal.

So I guess ultimately I want to ask why anybody here is optimistic about any of this? Does anybody really think Trump will be removed before 2020?

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Stanley Sea  Dec 16, 2017 • 7:05:27pm

re: #300 makeitstop

oooooooooooh boy.

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 16, 2017 • 7:05:42pm

re: #316 teleskiguy

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De Kolta Chair  Dec 16, 2017 • 7:06:02pm

re: #316 teleskiguy

Deadbeat dads are our nation’s first line of defense against the tyranny of the family courts, or something.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 16, 2017 • 7:06:03pm
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whitebeach  Dec 16, 2017 • 7:06:19pm

re: #303 Citizen K

Modern American Conservatism is basically indistinguishable from troll hyperbole these days.

Modern American Conservatism is basically indistinguishable from the Nazi Party in Germany in 1933 or the Ku Klux Klan in Alabama in 1963.

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makeitstop  Dec 16, 2017 • 7:06:42pm

I’m reposting this thread, because it got to the end.

This is why the freakout is on. They thought they were clear, but they were not. The bodies they thought got buried, were not buried.

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makeitstop  Dec 16, 2017 • 7:07:32pm

re: #318 Stanley Sea

oooooooooooh boy.

Fucking nuts.

They thought they got away. They did not.

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scottslemmons  Dec 16, 2017 • 7:08:20pm

re: #308 ipsos

I don’t disagree.

Question is, if it gets to a fever pitch in the next 48 hours or so, how much worse does Congress look for still forcing a rushed tax bill vote?

I think the concern about the Congress is that they no longer care how bad they’ll look. They know everyone despises them, aside from Nazis and lunatics. They know the elections are going to be a bloodbath. They know they won’t be able to appear in public in their own districts without people yelling at them. So they’re going to give the moneymen everything they want so they can get jobs on TV or in think tanks.

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The Major  Dec 16, 2017 • 7:08:23pm

re: #300 makeitstop

Note the firms’s specialty….”Crisis Management”….

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Stanley Sea  Dec 16, 2017 • 7:09:43pm

re: #321 Backwoods_Sleuth

That sheath she’s wearing is still distracting me.

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De Kolta Chair  Dec 16, 2017 • 7:10:14pm

re: #321 Backwoods_Sleuth

Did she and the president go out ballroom dancing after her show?

Asking for a friend of Bob Mackie (who obviously did not make that thing).

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William Lewis  Dec 16, 2017 • 7:10:15pm

re: #316 teleskiguy

[Embedded content]

He thinks he would. But Mr Hellfire would tell him “Nope”.

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freetoken  Dec 16, 2017 • 7:11:19pm

re: #325 scottslemmons

Never underestimate the arrogance of some elected in office. There are probably plenty of Republicans, especially in the House, who believe they are God’s choice to rule over the enemies of God.

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The Major  Dec 16, 2017 • 7:11:22pm

re: #316 teleskiguy

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Stanley Sea  Dec 16, 2017 • 7:11:59pm

re: #324 makeitstop

Fucking nuts.

They thought they got away. They did not.

Dude died on them.

This is so mafia.

When I saw Giuliani my mouth watered.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 16, 2017 • 7:13:16pm

re: #328 De Kolta Chair

Did she and the president go out ballroom dancing after the show?

Asking for a friend of Bob Mackie.

Do NOT put Mackie in the realm of that shit.

H&M.
Forever 21.

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William Lewis  Dec 16, 2017 • 7:13:46pm

re: #319 Unshaken Defiance

[Embedded content]

Think it? Sure. Just don’t bother trying it. You’ll just be reminded that civilian weapons aren’t enough to be able to do ****.

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makeitstop  Dec 16, 2017 • 7:14:03pm

re: #332 Stanley Sea

Dude died on them.

This is so mafia.

When I saw Giuliani my mouth watered.

If true, that ties everybody up in a nice little bow. Everybody.

No wonder they’re losing their minds.

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The Major  Dec 16, 2017 • 7:14:34pm

re: #321 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 16, 2017 • 7:16:54pm

re: #324 makeitstop

Fucking nuts.

They thought they got away. They did not.

LOL

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ipsos  Dec 16, 2017 • 7:17:20pm

re: #325 scottslemmons

I think the concern about the Congress is that they no longer care how bad they’ll look. They know everyone despises them, aside from Nazis and lunatics. They know the elections are going to be a bloodbath. They know they won’t be able to appear in public in their own districts without people yelling at them. So they’re going to give the moneymen everything they want so they can get jobs on TV or in think tanks.

So let’s say that’s the case. And let’s posit that realistically, this Congress isn’t going to send Trump packing and so he stays in office until either 2021 arrives or his arteries calcify.

The best case I can see is a wave election in 2018 that lets us stop the judicial nominations and the worst of the legislation for the next two years.

I’m not ready yet to go all the way to “they’re going to find a way not to hold elections.” I hope to hell I’m not wrong about that. With 68% of the country against Trump, I do think there’s a limit to what he can get away with that’s overtly coup-like.

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dangerman  Dec 16, 2017 • 7:18:10pm

re: #153 BigPapa

[Embedded content]

George Carlin is still not impressed

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Stanley Sea  Dec 16, 2017 • 7:18:12pm

re: #335 makeitstop

If true, that ties everybody up in a nice little bow. Everybody.

No wonder they’re losing their minds.

Poor Barron.

Hopefully he & his invited friends are far far away from the shitstorm.
Enjoying Camp David as he should.

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De Kolta Chair  Dec 16, 2017 • 7:19:44pm

re: #331 The Major

re: #333 Stanley Sea

Catching myself, I updated my comment moments before you so graciously and honorably defended the talented and legendary and simply marvelous Mr. Mackie. ;-)

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dangerman  Dec 16, 2017 • 7:20:20pm

re: #162 BigPapa

I put out a List of 7 words Trump is going to ban. But there was only six. Thankfully a MAGAt caught it early before my career ending mistake went viral.

This is my one mistake of the day, so the good news is I won’t screw anything else up for another several hours. Though I may try.

A list of 7 with only 6 words?
Woulda worked.
For this admin that would have been just like them

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makeitstop  Dec 16, 2017 • 7:20:53pm

re: #337 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL

[Embedded content]

Y’know, I was asking the other day where St. 9/11 got off to.

No wonder he’s hiding. He prolly doesn’t know whether Mueller’s gonna get him first, or if he’s gonna fall out a window while moving a bathtub.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 16, 2017 • 7:22:32pm

re: #341 De Kolta Chair

Catching myself, I updated my comment before you so graciously backed up the talented and legendary and simply marvelous Mr. Mackie. ;-)

More to the point, she wore that shit on the TV.

Grandpa’s everywhere are tingling or something.

So gross.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 16, 2017 • 7:23:53pm

re: #344 Stanley Sea

More to the point, she wore that shit on the TV.

Grandpa’s everywhere are tingling or something.

So gross.

I think she was going for the slutty vampire look.

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jaunte  Dec 16, 2017 • 7:24:34pm

re: #344 Stanley Sea

Grandpa’s everywhere are tingling or something.

.

Only if they’re deaf.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 16, 2017 • 7:24:37pm

re: #345 Backwoods_Sleuth

I think she was going for the slutty vampire look.

not that there’s anything wrong with that and, for the record, I think she nailed it.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 16, 2017 • 7:25:03pm

re: #345 Backwoods_Sleuth

I think she was going for the slutty vampire look.

I saw s&m

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 16, 2017 • 7:26:04pm

re: #348 Stanley Sea

I saw s&m

pretty sure there may be a Venn overlap with that.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 16, 2017 • 7:26:18pm

re: #348 Stanley Sea

I saw s&m

50 Shades of Fascism…

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Stanley Sea  Dec 16, 2017 • 7:27:07pm

SLEUTH

I’m behind on TWD, 2 eps. I saw by reading

C79L8MBTVCWqBeUi/RQA9YEt2jakucUgefAkcpEsS6E/xkopKW1/c57o4yJvQrrYst3CreX31p18VaKBw4cFxeAPlnGnKoRoIJJ9a5w12RQ=

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William Lewis  Dec 16, 2017 • 7:27:45pm

re: #350 Joe Bacon 🌹

50 Shades of Fascism…

Is That why both the Confederates and Nazis wore grey????

///////////////////

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 16, 2017 • 7:29:43pm
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jaunte  Dec 16, 2017 • 7:29:59pm

Jim Jordan, vying for the Dumbest Man in Congress Prize, (popularly known as The Gohmert).

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 16, 2017 • 7:30:24pm

re: #334 William Lewis

I’m thinking of a certain limited level. Spooks and street thugs don’t get air support, other than maybe stingray boxes.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 16, 2017 • 7:31:09pm
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petesh  Dec 16, 2017 • 7:32:10pm

re: #317 rhuarc

Does anybody here really think if Trump fires Mueller that the Republicans in Congress will do anything? And when, IMO, they don’t do anything what happens? Nothing. We’ll be outraged while a lot of words will be spoken and typed out on the internet, but in the end it will be a new normal. The press will deploy their both siderism stance and treat this as something political when it’s probably criminal.

So I guess ultimately I want to ask why anybody here is optimistic about any of this? Does anybody really think Trump will be removed before 2020?

Yes. He may just stroke out and die, or he may fake such a stroke to get pardoned and evade the court (not to mention concealing his economic, ah, shortcuts). Or he may try to bull it out and fail. (You think Roy Moores is really going to get a recount?) I used to think this year; now i suspect it might get dragged out past the mid-terms, but he’s gone. Dead man shambling along. Poison that will take years to recover from, but he himself? History.

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 16, 2017 • 7:33:12pm
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petesh  Dec 16, 2017 • 7:33:18pm

re: #325 scottslemmons

I think the concern about the Congress is that they no longer care how bad they’ll look. They know everyone despises them, aside from Nazis and lunatics. They know the elections are going to be a bloodbath. They know they won’t be able to appear in public in their own districts without people yelling at them. So they’re going to give the moneymen everything they want so they can get jobs on TV or in think tanks.

And most of them are going to get screwed.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Dec 16, 2017 • 7:35:37pm

re: #319 Unshaken Defiance

Something I’ve said pretty much the whole time I’ve been on this board: their support for the 2nd Amendment is no more substantial that their support for the 1st. It’s a thing they value only because of their mythology that they’re the ones with the guns.

They just won’t use the talismanic trigger phrase of “gun control.” They’ll invoke public safety, or gang affiliation, or terrorism, but it will amount to the same thing.

Hence the naked contradiction of their obsession with “law and order”—resulting in cheering greater arbitrary use of force—but the always-invoked fear of oppression by government(s). Who’s a thug is a cynical calculation about affiliation.

There’s no good faith to it.

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 16, 2017 • 7:36:59pm

“… Officials from two HHS agencies, who asked that their names and agencies remain anonymous, told The Washington Post that they had been given a list of “forbidden” words similar to the one given to the Centers for Disease Control (CDC).

A second HHS agency was told not to use the phrases “entitlement,” “diversity” and “vulnerable,” in documents. It was also told to use “ObamaCare” as opposed to the “Affordable Care Act” and to refer to “marketplaces,” where people purchase health insurance, as “exchanges.” …”

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De Kolta Chair  Dec 16, 2017 • 7:38:01pm

re: #344 Stanley Sea

More to the point, she wore that shit on the TV.

Grandpa’s everywhere are tingling or something.

So gross.

Icky gross!

I suspect both my grandfathers’ interests in fashion went not much further than what Clara Bow or Jean Harlow were or were not wearing in the flickers. And a big bowl of clams in pickle brine accompanied by plenty of scooners of homebrewed ale on Friday night. Oh, and most important of all, Carl Yastrzemski’s stats for that week.

As for Messr Mackie, the last thing I need is him and Miss Carole Burnett on my case. ;-)

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William Lewis  Dec 16, 2017 • 7:39:05pm

re: #355 Unshaken Defiance

I’m thinking of a certain limited level. Spooks and street thugs don’t get air support, other than maybe stingray boxes.

You can self defend against individuals. Your EDC will suffice for that. But beyond that? Without a Britain to supply your resistance with weapons, ammo, explosives and training, not to mention a cell structure that reaches nation wide and is read to take significant casualties, you aren’t going to accomplish anything. War tends to ” All or Nothing” very quickly.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 16, 2017 • 7:41:22pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 16, 2017 • 7:44:55pm
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William Lewis  Dec 16, 2017 • 7:45:19pm

re: #360 The Ghost of a Flea

I’ve always said a Republican would end gun ownership (except for the new white only Knight social class) via that mechanism.

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De Kolta Chair  Dec 16, 2017 • 7:45:48pm

Remember this guy? //

But srsly folks, maybe it’s time to take the fork out of the silverware drawer? (And ya’ll know exactly where to stick it)

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BeachDem  Dec 16, 2017 • 7:45:56pm

re: #217 De Kolta Chair

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Charles Pierce says it best when he says:

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Stanley Sea  Dec 16, 2017 • 7:46:51pm

Makeitstop, still here?

Orange Crush is one of those songs I toss into my Rolling Stones, Who etc. heard so many fucking times I cannot relate anymore pile.

Sticking with Fall on me.

fight me

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The Ghost of a Flea  Dec 16, 2017 • 7:47:59pm

Dinner is low-heat scrambled eggs (a la Michael Ruhlman) tossed with matzoh farfel and chives.

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jaunte  Dec 16, 2017 • 7:48:01pm
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Patricia Kayden  Dec 16, 2017 • 7:48:42pm

re: #284 Backwoods_Sleuth

Gunn was polite. I’d have told him that anyone who supports Trump can stop viewing my product. Trump is highly unpopular so speaking out against him is a plus, imho.

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dangerman  Dec 16, 2017 • 7:48:59pm

re: #260 The Vicious Babushka

.@JudgeJeanine: “There’s a core group of arrogant, corrupt, and lawless individuals that felt that they - and not we - should decide a presidential election

the crew Mueller’s investigating?

Absolutely

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retired cynic  Dec 16, 2017 • 7:49:51pm

re: #371 jaunte

It’s a good read.

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sagehen  Dec 16, 2017 • 7:50:09pm

re: #307 Joe Bacon 🌹

My, my, my! The same Tweety who was one of the Four Horsemen leading the charge on the Bill Clinton Penis Hunt got caught…

Tweety things I distinctly remember:

shortly before 2006 midterms, when it was clear the Dems were about to take the house, Tweety said: “I don’t think Nancy Pelosi would still be in charge of the conference. A majority leader has to be forceful and stubborn, and everybody hates when a woman does that.”

Late in the 2008 primaries, he did a spiel comparing Michelle Obama and Hillary Clinton in regards to hairstyles, cleavage, hemlines, jewelry & other fashion matters. It was Andrea Mitchell who pulled him up short… “Chris, those are Ivy League lawyers you’re talking about. Perhaps their looks aren’t their most important qualities.”

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makeitstop  Dec 16, 2017 • 7:50:47pm

re: #369 Stanley Sea

Makeitstop, still here?

Orange Crush is one of those songs I toss into my Rolling Stones, Who etc. heard so many fucking times I cannot relate anymore pile.

Sticking with Fall on me.

fight me

I don’t listen to a lot of R.E.M besides what I hear on the radio, so it’s still pretty new to me. :)

And Buck’s guitar work gets me every time.

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BeachDem  Dec 16, 2017 • 7:53:44pm

re: #251 Backwoods_Sleuth

these people…

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cat-tikvah  Dec 16, 2017 • 7:54:26pm

re: #371 jaunte

I have to wonder if my spineless complicit just-reelected Senator Pat Toomey (R, PA) was one of them.

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De Kolta Chair  Dec 16, 2017 • 7:56:49pm

Highly recommended: Van the Man’s latest lp, “Versatile.” Mostly standards, with the Ol’ Belfaster is at the top of his jazz/pop game. And his band cooks like Julia Child baking salmon while listening to Chet Baker. And, this being Van, there is a Chet Baker cut.

Take note, GOP, of the title of the following tune, not that you’d appreciate it, you dumb crackers:

Van Morrison - The Party’s Over

That’s the disgustingly very talented Paul Moran of County Meath’s own Bogey Boys on keyboards.

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makeitstop  Dec 16, 2017 • 7:59:19pm

Let’s play a game, shall we?

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Amalthea's Shadow  Dec 16, 2017 • 7:59:22pm

re: #358 FormerDirtDart

Speaking of ISS related things; the SO and I went out to watch it pass overhead earlier this evening at sunset. His still sharp (at 65 years old) eyes spotted a dimmer light following behind. “What’s that?” he asked me. I was SOOOOOOO excited when I realized we’d seen the Space X Dragon that will be hooking up with the station later this evening. Yeah, I’m a NASA nerd. Sue me………LOL.

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scottslemmons  Dec 16, 2017 • 7:59:42pm

re: #359 petesh

And most of them are going to get screwed.

But very few of them are likely to get screwed. Of the hundreds of corrupt, monsterized Republicans legislators in this country, how many of them spend any time behind bars? How many of them die rich and comfortable, surrounded by children ready to use that hoarded wealth to continue doing the same things. It’s only in fiction that bad people are punished.

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De Kolta Chair  Dec 16, 2017 • 8:01:54pm

re: #380 makeitstop

Let’s play a game, shall we?

Who are they?

Traitors all, that’s who.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 16, 2017 • 8:05:26pm

re: #376 makeitstop

I don’t listen to a lot of R.E.M besides what I hear on the radio, so it’s still pretty new to me. :)

And Buck’s guitar work gets me every time.

They were my time. I saw them for free to begin with. Although I had the cassette before the show. (Reckoning 1984)

I love nostalgic music, alas I’m not up on currents.

Share (privately) your blog. So interested.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 16, 2017 • 8:08:20pm

re: #375 sagehen

Cleavage? What the hell us wrong with him? His wife is so sensible that I wonder why she’s still with him.

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 16, 2017 • 8:11:34pm

re: #364 Charles Johnson

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Stanley Sea  Dec 16, 2017 • 8:11:34pm

re: #380 makeitstop

Let’s play a game, shall we?

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Interesting from the replies. Note this is the transition team. Which includes many tossed aside.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 16, 2017 • 8:12:38pm

re: #381 Amalthea’s Shadow

Speaking of ISS related things; the SO and I went out to watch it pass overhead earlier this evening at sunset. His still sharp (at 65 years old) eyes spotted a dimmer light following behind. “What’s that?” he asked me. I was SOOOOOOO excited when I realized we’d seen the Space X Dragon that will be hooking up with the station later this evening. Yeah, I’m a NASA nerd. Sue me………LOL.

Brilliant to see that!!!!

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The Major  Dec 16, 2017 • 8:15:52pm

re: #354 jaunte

And while this will bee nothing more than “bread and Circuses” to Trump’s base, it will blow up spectacularly on the Congresscritters a la Trey Gowdy’s “BENGHAZI1!!”…

Morons - all of ‘em.

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whitebeach  Dec 16, 2017 • 8:28:44pm

re: #384 Stanley Sea

I love nostalgic music, alas I’m not up on currents.

But … speaking of nostalgia …

Yesterday I was innocently driving home from the supermarket and on comes “The Marvelous Toy,” I think the 1969 Peter, Paul and Mary version, and it immediately invaded my brain and stayed there:

“It went zip when it moved
and bop when it stopped
and whirrr when it stood still.
I never knew just what it was
and I guess I never will.”

All freakin day it’s been haunting me. While I was watching a football game. While I was cooking barbecue pork. While I was reading an old Phillip Margolin thriller. While I was posting here, fer chrissake. Ringing in my ears: “bop when it stopped and whirrr when it stood still.” The only way I can think of to get rid of this echo in my head is to pass it off to all of you. Enjoy.

Aaaahhh.


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