Tonight, Twitter Is Blocking Users From Posting Links to Tom Steyer’s “Need to Impeach” Site

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So. This is happening tonight on Twitter: trying to post a link to @TomSteyer’s “Need to Impeach” website, which calls for the impeachment of Donald Trump, results in a warning message from Twitter — and the link is not posted.

No word yet from anyone at Twitter about why this is happening, but one possibility is that this link has been mass-reported as spam by pro-Trump trolls. We’ll update if more information becomes available.

UPDATE at 12/17/17 8:10:17 pm by Charles Johnson

Still no word from Twitter, but the link can now be posted.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 17, 2017 • 7:42:23pm

Maybe we should mass report foxnews.com and see what happens…

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teleskiguy  Dec 17, 2017 • 7:43:18pm

Jim Wright (@Stonekettle) gets time out from Facebook from time to time because of mass reporting by Trumpkins. I wouldn’t put it past Trumpkin trolls and Russian bots to do something like this.

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BigPapa  Dec 17, 2017 • 7:45:53pm

It’s a brave new world. And it’s fast. Very fast.

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Targetpractice  Dec 17, 2017 • 7:45:58pm

This is the ‘Net equivalent of swatting.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 17, 2017 • 7:48:06pm

Now Jim Bakker is claiming that Trump is related to…Jesus…

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 17, 2017 • 7:50:18pm

re: #6 Joe Bacon 🌹

Now Jim Bakker is claiming that Trump is related to…Jesus…

Let’s see how many mainline churches call him out (I predict they won’t, just like they haven’t called out other televangelists in the past).

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Belafon  Dec 17, 2017 • 7:51:48pm

re: #6 Joe Bacon 🌹

Now Jim Bakker is claiming that Trump is related to…Jesus…

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If you need to prove that evangelicalism is white nationalism.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 17, 2017 • 7:52:57pm

re: #7 Anymouse 🌹

Let’s see how many mainline churches call him out (I predict they won’t, just like they haven’t called out other televangelists in the past).

Anymouse, we know the answer—ZERO!

Not one single Pulpit Pimp will call Jim Bakker out. Not one!

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Stanley Sea  Dec 17, 2017 • 7:59:19pm

I finished The Crown.

*sob*

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 17, 2017 • 8:00:47pm
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Decatur Deb  Dec 17, 2017 • 8:00:48pm

re: #6 Joe Bacon 🌹

Now Jim Bakker is claiming that Trump is related to…Jesus…

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If Trump is related to Jesus, then Roy Moore has two Jewish friends.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 17, 2017 • 8:01:58pm

re: #12 Decatur Deb

If Trump is related to Jesus, then Roy Moore has two Jewish friends.

Oh no, he’s back to just one since the Jewish Lawyer was “born again”…

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Dec 17, 2017 • 8:03:32pm

re: #10 Stanley Sea

I finished The Crown.

*sob*

Watching it now. Don’t worry about spoilers though——— I already know that Elizabeth and Philip don’t die at the end.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 17, 2017 • 8:04:17pm

As a reminder, Task and Purpose shut down Sarah Palin’s claims of PTSD causing Track’s violence some time ago.

taskandpurpose.com (January 21, 2016)

Family Values Candidates: Track Palin Arrested for Domestic Violence
(shameless page promotion for Khal Wimpo, goes to the right-hand column of LGF)

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Dave In Austin  Dec 17, 2017 • 8:08:32pm

re: #13 Joe Bacon 🌹

Oh no, he’s back to just one since the Jewish Lawyer was “born again”…

In Southern Baptist and Assembly of God circles, a converted Jew is worth bonus points!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 17, 2017 • 8:08:37pm

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Dec 17, 2017 • 8:09:22pm

Speaking of The Crown, Jeremy Northam is uncanny as Anthony Eden. He bears a strong resemblance, which helps, but he also has Eden’s mannerisms and accent down perfectly.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 17, 2017 • 8:09:23pm

re: #17 Joe Bacon 🌹

Too late. Darth Mueller is coming for him.

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Belafon  Dec 17, 2017 • 8:12:04pm

One of those “dust in my eye” stories:

Jia Sarnicola and Zuri Copeland are 4 -year-old preschoolers from Miami.

They implore their moms to dress them in matching outfits. They insist they are not just best friends. Not even sisters. They insist that they are twins.

Jia’s birthday is June 3rd and Zuri is June 5th. Close enough for them to consider that the same time.

They shared a birthday party, when other children told them that because of their skin color, they couldn’t be twins.

The girls started to cry. And then Jia replied, “You don’t know anything.

We are both 4. We are the same height. We have the same birthday…

…and we share the same soul.”

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Charles Johnson  Dec 17, 2017 • 8:12:16pm
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VegasGolfer  Dec 17, 2017 • 8:13:04pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 17, 2017 • 8:13:16pm

Ain’t nothing like a real Christmas song to put you in the spirit!

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makeitstop  Dec 17, 2017 • 8:13:20pm

That photo of Trump in the last thread is really something. He looks like total shit.

No matter how he tries to spin his situation, it’s wearing him down. Bad.

He knows how reviled he is. And I hope it’s eating him alive.

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meteor  Dec 17, 2017 • 8:13:43pm
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goddamnedfrank  Dec 17, 2017 • 8:13:50pm

Honestly I don’t trust Steyer at all. His nextgen climate ads during the election and the needtoimpeach site all strike me as primarily geared towards raising Tom’s public stature and helping him build a mailing list for a likely 2018 run at becoming Governor of California. I’m sure he wants Feinstein’s Senate seat more but her decision to run for re-election makes that a harder race for him to win.

Still, Twitter’s action here seems just as cynical and/or the product of automated abuse by right wingers. Twitter probably doesn’t like the idea of a billionaire like Steyer using their platform as part of his ad campaign without paying for it.

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Belafon  Dec 17, 2017 • 8:15:51pm

re: #22 VegasGolfer

Sounds familiar. :) I like the dresses.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 17, 2017 • 8:18:14pm

re: #26 goddamnedfrank

Honestly I don’t trust Steyer at all. His nextgen climate ads during the election and the needtoimpeach site all strike me as primarily geared towards raising Tom’s public stature and helping him build a mailing list for a likely 2018 run at becoming Governor of California. I’m sure he wants Feinstein’s Senate seat more but her decision to run for re-election makes that a harder race for him to win.

Still, Twitter’s action here seems just as cynical and/or the product of automated abuse by right wingers. Twitter probably doesn’t like the idea of a billionaire like Steyer using their platform as part of his ad campaign without paying for it.

I don’t understand how taking a public stand on issues is somehow a bad thing to raise your public profile if you want to run for office. You kind of need a public profile if you want to do that.

As for giving people E-mail addresses, the default assumption is they are building an E-mail list. Once you give away your address, you no longer have control over it.

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Belafon  Dec 17, 2017 • 8:19:28pm

re: #26 goddamnedfrank

My money next year will be going to Texas races, so my one more sig won’t help him there. I put my name in 1) because I won’t mind being part of any push on impeachment right now, and 2) twitter pissed me off.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 17, 2017 • 8:20:47pm

re: #26 goddamnedfrank

Yes, it’s almost certainly because of a campaign to mass-report the site as spam. And this reveals a serious problem in Twitter’s attempt to use automated systems to handle complaints like this - they’re way too easy for malicious groups to exploit.

A problem that anyone could have predicted.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 17, 2017 • 8:21:38pm

re: #18 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Speaking of The Crown, Jeremy Northam is uncanny as Anthony Eden. He bears a strong resemblance, which helps, but he also has Eden’s mannerisms and accent down perfectly.

I’m super into watching the expressions & restraint of Will Keen/Michael Adeane - her personal secretary.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 17, 2017 • 8:24:33pm

Also, Albert Pirro’s subsequent arrest for assaulting a woman in a restaurant after he got out of the Federal pen (which also mentions his peccadillo resulting in fathering a child with another woman because conservative family values):

nypost.com

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jaunte  Dec 17, 2017 • 8:25:46pm
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goddamnedfrank  Dec 17, 2017 • 8:27:21pm

re: #28 Anymouse 🌹

I don’t understand how taking a public stand on issues is somehow a bad thing to raise your public profile if you want to run for office. You kind of need a public profile if you want to do that.

Tom just strikes me as another rich white male dilettante trying to buy his way into politics. I’d rather he spent his money on shit that works like voter registration and would let people who didn’t make fortunes running hedge funds for extremely high net worth individuals run things.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 17, 2017 • 8:28:57pm

re: #34 goddamnedfrank

Tom just strikes me as another rich white male dilettante trying to buy his way into politics. I’d rather he spent his money on shit that works like voter registration and would let people who didn’t make their fortunes running hedge funds for extremely high net worth individuals run things.

Well, that could be true too. I would trade Stayer in a second for my hedge-fund governor.

The way our political system is set up you pretty much have to be rich to run for any office above a county commission.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 17, 2017 • 8:29:01pm

Steyer reminds me of Pritzker in Illinois. You can’t escape Pritzker’s ads for governor; they are effective and they are everywhere. It almost appears as though he is the only Democrat in the race — although there are two other high profile candidates Daniel Biss and Chris Kennedy. Pritzker’s advantage is that he is the only Democratic billionaire in the competition.

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ObserverArt  Dec 17, 2017 • 8:30:52pm

re: #34 goddamnedfrank

Tom just strikes me as another rich white male dilettante trying to buy his way into politics. I’d rather he spent his money on shit that works like voter registration and would let people who didn’t make their fortunes running hedge funds for extremely high net worth individuals run things.

Good point. A little public service work is a good thing for any federal political position. Also a little law and political science education is nice, with some American history.

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 17, 2017 • 8:31:10pm
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FormerDirtDart  Dec 17, 2017 • 8:31:20pm

Russian asset & they’re cleaning up?

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retired cynic  Dec 17, 2017 • 8:37:23pm

re: #36 Hecuba’s daughter

Steyer reminds me of Pritzker in Illinois. You can’t escape Pritzker’s ads for governor; they are effective and they are everywhere. It almost appears as though he is the only Democrat in the race — although there are two other high profile candidates Daniel Biss and Chris Kennedy. Pritzker’s advantage is that he is the only Democratic billionaire in the competition.

Exactly. And I distrust Pritzker, too. I see that Tammy Duckworth and Dick Durbin endorsed him, and as much as I love them, I suspect $ had something to do with that.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 17, 2017 • 8:38:02pm

President Obama’s campaign chair:

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Amalthea's Shadow  Dec 17, 2017 • 8:38:48pm

re: #26 goddamnedfrank

goddamnedfrank, I can agree with your cynicism regarding the possible motives of Tom Steyer. You are likely very right. To that end, would it change your opinion of him if he DOES declare a run for a political office of some sort? I think he’s doing a valuable thing by running these ads. It does run in red places where people may not be aware of the strong opposition to Trump. My own personal criticism is that his schtick plays to the people who are looking for someone to “save” us. The ones who bitch a lot, but don’t bother to vote. Or call their Congresscritters to vent their displeasure. Thus setting up a path for the liberal version of authoritarianism.
On the up and happy side here…..we are headed for SoCal tomorrow morning. We are taking the Grandkids to Disneyland. It should be fun, even if I don’t do amusement park rides and I hate crowds. Just keeping up with the kiddos will be a challenge. I myself have not been to DL since I was three. But I do have some memories, so it’ll be interesting to see if the deja vu feeling kicks in.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 17, 2017 • 8:41:43pm

re: #41 Anymouse 🌹

Not gonna lie. I’d take some delight in seeing Ryan brought down.

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allegro  Dec 17, 2017 • 8:43:19pm

re: #43 Eclectic Cyborg

Not gonna lie. I’d take some delight in seeing Ryan brought down.

Wasn’t he one of the first to demand Franken’s resignation?

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 17, 2017 • 8:47:23pm

re: #42 Amalthea’s Shadow

I’m not saying the ads have no value at all. I’m saying that their comparative value strikes me as rather low next to doing things that directly combat voter suppression like helping people get qualifying photo id, registered to vote, signing them up for absentee ballots or making sure they can physically get to the polls.

Because if there is one thing I’ve learned over the last couple years it’s that trying to educate right wingers is largely futile. Being directly confronted with evidence that they’re wrong only causes them to dig in further. And the absolute last thing that is ever going to motivate them towards introspection is some California billionaire on TV telling them their shit stinks.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 17, 2017 • 8:47:50pm

Comments

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ObserverArt  Dec 17, 2017 • 8:48:26pm

re: #41 Anymouse 🌹

President Obama’s campaign chair:

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Interesting. His future plans to retire kind of came out of nowhere.

Not enough popcorn I tell you.

And I was just thinking what is this week going to bring? We seem to have a lot of stuff all going at one time and this week is the tipping point for their tax reform, etc.

Could be some crazy news coming. Buckle up. It’s going to get bumpy.

Just the right amount for keeping track of Political and Slanted News

Anyone have a 5 gallon pail of canola oil?

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Citizen K  Dec 17, 2017 • 8:48:29pm

re: #38 goddamnedfrank

Pruitt has been treating the EPA like his own private empire since he was appointed. This doesn’t really shock me, but it really does underscore that he’s completely subverted and destroyed the department’s function in a remarkably short time.

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meteor  Dec 17, 2017 • 8:48:44pm

re: #43 Eclectic Cyborg

Paul Ryan eats people.

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 17, 2017 • 8:48:45pm
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teleskiguy  Dec 17, 2017 • 8:53:13pm
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BigPapa  Dec 17, 2017 • 8:54:22pm

re: #49 meteor

Paul Ryan eats people.

I’d like to raise awareness about excessive hyperbole and point out that he dines on them while laughing.

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Amalthea's Shadow  Dec 17, 2017 • 9:06:21pm

re: #45 goddamnedfrank

Yes……I completely agree with everything you wrote here. Thanks for expanding your thoughts a bit more. I was also trying to make sure that you weren’t stepping down too hard on the ole “purity” pedal. A lot of politics these days is about the art of perception, as we all know a bit too well. Best example of that here in CA is Jerry Brown and his Green image. The perception in no way matches the reality.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 17, 2017 • 9:10:36pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 17, 2017 • 9:13:21pm
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jaunte  Dec 17, 2017 • 9:24:35pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 17, 2017 • 9:25:59pm

Gene Simmons of Kiss now denying sexual misconduct allegations.
huffingtonpost.com

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teleskiguy  Dec 17, 2017 • 9:28:31pm

re: #57 Anymouse 🌹

Gene Simmons of Kiss now denying sexual misconduct allegations.
huffingtonpost.com

Might as well. Fuckface Von Clownstick denied everything and look where it got him.

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Targetpractice  Dec 17, 2017 • 9:31:15pm

re: #56 jaunte

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“I don’t know how this big bag of cash just ended up in my lap!”

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BigPapa  Dec 17, 2017 • 9:36:57pm

Gene Simmons and Chris Matthews? My surprised face. Let me show you.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 17, 2017 • 9:41:49pm

I just watched that Sarah Silverman video clip two threads back. That was a hoot (especially the very last line about bagels).

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teleskiguy  Dec 17, 2017 • 9:42:05pm
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retired cynic  Dec 17, 2017 • 9:43:14pm

re: #62 teleskiguy

Now you know where your snow went.

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Belafon  Dec 17, 2017 • 9:45:05pm

re: #51 teleskiguy

And it would have been worse if the ACA hadn’t raised taxes on the wealthy.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 17, 2017 • 9:46:21pm

Santa’s sexual harassment trial takes a dramatic turn for the worse:

Image: 3.jpg

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 17, 2017 • 9:53:08pm

I missed this earlier. “Um, yeah, hey there Mister Policeman please give us back all that evidence implicating us in crimes kthxbye.”

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retired cynic  Dec 17, 2017 • 9:55:38pm

re: #66 goddamnedfrank

I missed this earlier. “Um, yeah, hey there Mister Policeman please give us back all that evidence implicating us in crimes kthxbye.”

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I sure wish the media was reporting more of the other side. This just lets the story take hold that the evidence is tainted.

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Targetpractice  Dec 17, 2017 • 9:57:04pm

re: #66 goddamnedfrank

I missed this earlier. “Um, yeah, hey there Mister Policeman please give us back all that evidence implicating us in crimes kthxbye.”

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From the same people who insist that Hillary withheld/deleted tens of thousands of emails that would have implicated her in various crimes.

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Targetpractice  Dec 17, 2017 • 9:59:33pm

re: #67 retired cynic

I sure wish the media was reporting more of the other side. This just lets the story take hold that the evidence is tainted.

I suspect that the aim is more to portray Donny as the “victim” of an “invasion of privacy,” that there was “sensitive” personal/business information in those emails and the FBI (who obviously are all out to get this poor guy) could turn that information over to those who could use it to ruin/embarrass him.

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Kragar  Dec 17, 2017 • 10:00:25pm

So I saw “The Last Jedi”

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Targetpractice  Dec 17, 2017 • 10:03:40pm

re: #70 Kragar

So I saw “The Last Jedi”

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I’m hearing that this one may lead to a major schism in the fanbase.

As a Trek fan, I welcome Star Wars fans to 2009.

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 17, 2017 • 10:08:10pm

re: #69 Targetpractice

I suspect that the aim is more to portray Donny as the “victim” of an “invasion of privacy,” that there was “sensitive” personal/business information in those emails and the FBI (who obviously are all out to get this poor guy) could turn that information over to those who could use it to ruin/embarrass him.

Among other things there’s probably evidence of egregious emoluments clause violations in those emails, efforts to get foreign dignitaries to stay in the DC hotel. That’s the kind of flagrantly corrupt shit that Trump’s lawyers would’ve definitely “vetted” out, arguing that it doesn’t concretely involve Russia.

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Kragar  Dec 17, 2017 • 10:12:48pm

re: #71 Targetpractice

Spoilers ahead, read at your own risk

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 17, 2017 • 10:12:52pm
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Targetpractice  Dec 17, 2017 • 10:12:58pm

re: #72 goddamnedfrank

Among other things there’s probably evidence of egregious emoluments clause violations in those emails, efforts to get foreign dignitaries to stay in the DC hotel. That’s the kind of flagrantly corrupt shit that Trump’s lawyers would’ve definitely “vetted” out, arguing that it doesn’t concretely involve Russia.

And I strongly suspect that’s one of the many things that Mueller has found, considering the tone of the squealing from the Fox crowd and Trump’s lawyers that he has gone “outside the scope” of the investigation. Here’s the problem for them: Mueller is not strictly confined to a specific time period or event, the directives he operates under give him authority to go wherever the evidence takes him.

Now Republicans loved that idea when they thought it might mean he’d go after Hillary or Obama. But they’re getting scared shitless now because they’ve realized he interprets it as permitting him to look at the transition period as well. And it was likely in that period, when Trump felt unfettered by the campaign but not yet in the White House, to try to start cashing in on his “victory.”

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Targetpractice  Dec 17, 2017 • 10:14:23pm

re: #73 Kragar

Spoilers ahead, read at your own risk

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 17, 2017 • 10:15:07pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 17, 2017 • 10:15:44pm

re: #72 goddamnedfrank

Among other things there’s probably evidence of egregious emoluments clause violations in those emails, efforts to get foreign dignitaries to stay in the DC hotel. That’s the kind of flagrantly corrupt shit that Trump’s lawyers would’ve definitely “vetted” out, arguing that it doesn’t concretely involve Russia.

Too bad for them Mr. Mueller’s remit specifically allows him to go after other crimes uncovered during the course of his investigation.

That’s sort of like saying “Well, the cops were called because we had a loud party, but they can’t investigate the murder after they found a body on our floor.”

They’re pretty much throwing any thing they can at the wall. Much of it isn’t for the court (but if the court buys an argument the better for them). It’s for the Wingnut Media to try to spin up conservatives into believing the government is out to get them, like Saint Reagan promised.

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retired cynic  Dec 17, 2017 • 10:15:54pm

re: #74 Anymouse 🌹

I think he should be shaving himself before he trims federal employees. The twerp.

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Targetpractice  Dec 17, 2017 • 10:19:10pm

Speaking of which, anybody else notice that the wingnuts have stopped playing around with that little fantasy that Mueller might end up investigating Hillary, Obama, or Lynch? I remember that being one of their favorite talking points fora period of time, that Mueller would have to look into their actions because he was investigating the election and thus Democrats might want to join the GOP in forcing an end to his investigation before he started serving warrants to the Clinton Foundation.

Ah, those were simpler times.

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 17, 2017 • 10:20:01pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 17, 2017 • 10:23:11pm

Do you think that sending a note to McConnell, calling him a traitor funded by the Russians, and asking him to resign, is too harsh? I’m not from his state but that hasn’t stopped me from sending emails to other Republicans on various issues.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 17, 2017 • 10:24:44pm

re: #80 Targetpractice

Speaking of which, anybody else notice that the wingnuts have stopped playing around with that little fantasy that Mueller might end up investigating Hillary, Obama, or Lynch? I remember that being one of their favorite talking points fora period of time, that Mueller would have to look into their actions because he was investigating the election and thus Democrats might want to join the GOP in forcing an end to his investigation before he started serving warrants to the Clinton Foundation.

Ah, those were simpler times.

My wingnut brother was still talking this nonsense about 2 weeks ago.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 17, 2017 • 10:36:59pm

Plenty of conservative voters propagandised by Wingnut Media (tm, patent pending, service mark, copyright, &c) actually seem to believe Christmas was banned under President Obama.

The Year of The Donald - The Opposition w/ Jordan Klepper

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wheat-dogg  Dec 17, 2017 • 10:51:08pm

re: #84 Anymouse 🌹

Plenty of conservative voters propagandised by Wingnut Media (tm, patent pending, service mark, copyright, &c) actually seem to believe Christmas was banned under President Obama.

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Gaslighting an entire population. Next up: Christmas did not exist until Trump was elected. He also created in a flash on Dec. 1 every single Christmas song, movie, custom, TV special, decoration, greeting card, and food and drink item. Santa, however, was arrested and deported for not having a valid passport or visa, illegally crossing into US airspace, not having a valid pilot’s license, evading customs duties, smuggling exotic animals without a permit, and suspected serial B&E incidents. His list of naughty and nice people was confiscated and shared with Russian intelligence.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 17, 2017 • 11:04:27pm

re: #85 wheat-dogg

Gaslighting an entire population. Next up: Christmas did not exist until Trump was elected. He also created in a flash on Dec. 1 every single Christmas song, movie, custom, TV special, decoration, greeting card, and food and drink item. Santa, however, was arrested and deported for not having a valid passport or visa, illegally crossing into US airspace, not having a valid pilot’s license, evading customs duties, smuggling exotic animals without a permit, and suspected serial B&E incidents. His list of naughty and nice people was confiscated and shared with Russian intelligence.

Of course, we don’t know what the host of the Comedy Central show cut out (people who made reasonable answers for example).

That said, the clip is a good example of the Keyes Constant (or crazification factor).

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wheat-dogg  Dec 17, 2017 • 11:44:10pm

re: #86 Anymouse 🌹

Of course, we don’t know what the host of the Comedy Central show cut out (people who made reasonable answers for example).

That said, the clip is a good example of the Keyes Constant (or crazification factor).

I can easily believe there are people who will believe beyond any doubt that no one was allowed to say “Merry Christmas” before Trump took office. They will eventually convince others, and soon a sizable minority will take it as a True Fack™ that saying “Merry Christmas” was outlawed under the Obama administration.

They will attribute the existence of pre-2017 Merry Christmas items to the Mandela effect.

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freetoken  Dec 18, 2017 • 12:08:44am

My basic refrain the past few years it that America is going through an existential crisis, more specifically, many Americans are going through existential crises because old-fashioned belief systems are failing them in the 21st century.

Mostly this had to do with religion, but there are beliefs that are not so sectarian too.

In light of this, what we must do is just plow forward, make our case, and take stands.

Ultimately humans try to resolve their own crises through either 1) escape, or 2) acceptance. The latter one is the one that keeps from spiraling downwards.

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freetoken  Dec 18, 2017 • 12:11:22am

Creationists are the easiest example (which is why we use them so much), but others are all around us…

The “libertarian” who refuses to acknowledge that they are in fact totally dependent upon the society around them…

The good-guy-with-a-gun fetishists…

These are all people wanting to live in a fantasy because reality isn’t what they like.

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teleskiguy  Dec 18, 2017 • 12:15:55am

You just can’t make this shit up. Don Jr. is one clueless fuckhead.

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teleskiguy  Dec 18, 2017 • 12:33:14am
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goddamnedfrank  Dec 18, 2017 • 12:35:40am
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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 18, 2017 • 1:00:36am

FOX Radio, Free Republic, Christian Post, End Times Headlines, and many other right-wing and religious Websites are attacking the Freedom from Religion Foundation (FOX Radio called it an attack by atheists) over three state senators in Arizona.

The issue is the three senators have volunteered for years as bell ringers for the Salvation Army. State Senator George Logan claims he received a letter from FFRF asking he cease and desist his voluntary time with the Salvation Army. The other two state senators said they received no such letters.

FFRF itself does not have anything on sending a letter to Senator Logan or anyone else about volunteering for the Salvation Army. (The last article their Website had was last year when Target banned solicitation on its properties and wingnuts spun it as an attack on the Salvation Army.)

Todd Starnes FOX Radio segment:

Lawmakers Vow to Ring Salvation Army Bells in Defiance of Atheists

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 18, 2017 • 1:26:59am

To the best of my knowledge, the Freedom from Religion Foundation (which is made up of a majority of Christians, not atheists) doesn’t give a flip what a politician does on his own time, as long as it’s legal.

Bell ringing for the Salvation Army is legal.

Wingnuts are trying to spin this as we evil atheists are trying to trample all over their religious rights.

Maybe we need to get our own radio network. Persecuting the overwhelming majority of the nation is hard without your own propaganda network.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 18, 2017 • 1:36:05am

re: #93 Anymouse 🌹

Wrong state. That should be Connecticut, not Arizona.

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 18, 2017 • 1:40:21am
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wheat-dogg  Dec 18, 2017 • 1:41:52am

re: #96 goddamnedfrank

The Terminators only targeted white people in the movies. There might be something to this. /

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 18, 2017 • 1:43:12am

re: #33 jaunte

A no-name Trump attorney publicizes a letter bashing Mueller with legally-dubious claims, contradictory assertions, misrepresentations and outright lies…

And much of the media repeats the letter’s claims uncritically.

This is how Trump became president.

I was at a friend|s place on Sunday watching CNN, and there was a near permanent chryon on the screen reading: “Mueller denies charges of impropriety.” or “Lawyer: Mueller obtained e-mails illegally”.

This is how Trump remains President

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teleskiguy  Dec 18, 2017 • 1:50:49am

re: #97 wheat-dogg

The Terminators only targeted white people in the movies. There might be something to this.

Thing is a black person invented the architecture of Skynet *before* Judgment Day, and when that happened John Connor in the future sent a Cyberdyne Systems M-101 to protect himself before Judgment Day ever happened, and when that happened young John Connor broke his mother out of a high-security mental institution with the help of the M-101 and then later John Connor’s mom Sarah tried but ultimately failed (because of her humanity?) to kill that black person who invented the architecture of Skynet (which was discovered by accident even before John Connor was born), and…

My head hurts. Time travel is fraught with endless difficulties.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 18, 2017 • 1:54:30am

re: #99 teleskiguy

My head hurts. Time travel is fraught with endless difficulties.

Not the least of which are the verb tenses…

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teleskiguy  Dec 18, 2017 • 1:55:22am

re: #100 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Not the least of which are the verb tenses…

Which I fucking fixed, mind you!

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 18, 2017 • 2:01:51am

My wife got a call from her brother …

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teleskiguy  Dec 18, 2017 • 2:06:05am

re: #102 Anymouse 🌹

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 18, 2017 • 2:10:30am

re: #103 teleskiguy

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teleskiguy  Dec 18, 2017 • 2:15:01am

re: #104 Anymouse 🌹

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 18, 2017 • 2:16:27am

re: #104 Anymouse 🌹

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 18, 2017 • 2:22:34am

re: #105 teleskiguy

re: #106 goddamnedfrank

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teleskiguy  Dec 18, 2017 • 2:23:03am

Any New York Lizards know about this lady?

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Decatur Deb  Dec 18, 2017 • 2:25:05am

re: #88 freetoken


Ultimately humans try to resolve their own crises through either 1) fire superiorIty, 2) escape, or 3) acceptance. The first one is the one that keeps from spiraling downwards.

TRADOC’ed that fer ya.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 18, 2017 • 2:28:49am

re: #88 freetoken

My basic refrain the past few years it that America is going through an existential crisis, more specifically, many Americans are going through existential crises because old-fashioned belief systems are failing them in the 21st century.

The failure of our education system to teach people to critically recognize and appreciate the differences between science, the historical method, reason, logic and systems of personal/religious/moral beliefs also contributes to this mess.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 18, 2017 • 2:29:14am

re: #89 freetoken

Creationists are the easiest example (which is why we use them so much), but others are all around us…

The “libertarian” who refuses to acknowledge that they are in fact totally dependent upon the society around them…

The good-guy-with-a-gun fetishists…

These are all people wanting to live in a fantasy because reality isn’t what they like.

and trickle-down economists

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 18, 2017 • 2:51:56am

re: #108 teleskiguy

Any New York Lizards know about this lady?

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How many of these tweets are real and how many are fake?

It would be interesting if people flooded the hash tag with “My name is John Smith. On May 13, 2016 I sent $1,700 to Hillary Clinton.”

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 18, 2017 • 2:55:33am

re: #110 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The failure of our education system to teach people to critically recognize and appreciate the differences between science, the historical method, reason, logic and systems of personal/religious/moral beliefs also contributes to this mess.

Conservatives have spent a long time creating that precise problem with education. They then went after news media. The leaders disdain critical thinking (see the former Texas GOP platform) equating it to rebelling against parents.

This has been a long time in the making. Conservatives have created in essence a “lost generation,” which can’t think for itself; can’t tell what’s true, what’s false, and what’s opinion; and is thus easily lead by whatever they’re told to do.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 18, 2017 • 3:00:47am

re: #110 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The failure of our education system to teach people to critically recognize and appreciate the differences between science, the historical method, reason, logic and systems of personal/religious/moral beliefs also contributes to this mess.

The Common Core reading approach would address those issues, which is why RWNJs and fundies hate the Common Core so much.

Also Advanced Placement courses and International Baccalaurate programs.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 18, 2017 • 3:10:13am

re: #113 Anymouse 🌹

Conservatives have spent a long time creating that precise problem with education. They then went after news media. The leaders disdain critical thinking (see the former Texas GOP platform) equating it to rebelling against parents.

This has been a long time in the making. Conservatives have created in essence a “lost generation,” which can’t think for itself; can’t tell what’s true, what’s false, and what’s opinion; and is thus easily lead by whatever they’re told to do.

The Dominionist movement wants dominion over the “Seven Mountains” of arts and entertainment, business, education, family, government, media, and religion. They have made inroads in all of them, most importantly government (IMO). They start with local elections, such as school boards, and inexorably work their way up the political food chain. They have their own publishing and broadcasting outlets, bringing us such luminaries as David Barton and Dinesh D’Useless, and benefactors with deep pockets, such as the Kochs and the Mercers. I would argue they’d be perfectly OK with the system of government Putin has created, so long as their brand of Christianity takes the role of state church.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 18, 2017 • 3:42:33am

How the Russians smeared the White Helmet rescue workers of Syria.

theguardian.com

The White Helmets, officially known as the Syria Civil Defence, is a humanitarian organisation made up of 3,400 volunteers - former teachers, engineers, tailors and firefighters - who rush to pull people from the rubble when bombs rain down on Syrian civilians. They’ve been credited with saving thousands of civilians during the country’s continuing civil war.

They have also exposed, through first-hand video footage, war crimes including a chemical attack in April. Their work was the subject of an Oscar-winning Netflix documentary and the recipient of two Nobel peace prize nominations.

In spite of this positive international recognition, there’s a counter-narrative pushed by a vocal network of individuals who write for alternative news sites countering the “MSM agenda”. Their views align with the positions of Syria and Russia and attract an enormous online audience, amplified by high-profile alt-right personalities, appearances on Russian state TV and an army of Twitter bots.

The way the Russian propaganda machine has targeted the White Helmets is a neat case study in the prevailing information wars. It exposes just how rumours, conspiracy theories and half-truths bubble to the top of YouTube, Google and Twitter search algorithms.

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John Hughes  Dec 18, 2017 • 3:46:35am

re: #10 Stanley Sea

I finished The Crown.

*sob*

I suspect it isn’t really over.

Checks — London Bridge is still standing — yes, there will probably be a new series.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 18, 2017 • 3:48:15am

He’s on the pot.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 18, 2017 • 3:53:02am

re: #117 John Hughes

I suspect it isn’t really over.

Checks — London Bridge is still standing — yes, there will probably be a new series.

I just finished episode 5. Trying to prolong it as long as possible. We just got through 1958 (I was 2 at the time).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 18, 2017 • 3:54:53am

re: #119 wheat-dogg

I just finished episode 5. Trying to prolong it as long as possible. We just got through 1958 (I was 2 at the time).

I got about halfway into the Crown, kinda lost interest, but it is a compelling and well done series about people who live lavishly off other people’s money without returning any commensurate value in personal service in exchange.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 18, 2017 • 4:03:31am

re: #120 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I got about halfway into the Crown, kinda lost interest, but it is a compelling and well done series about people who live lavishly off other people’s money without returning any commensurate value in personal service in exchange.

A fair point, but in many way the Crown serves as a symbol of Great Britain in a more concrete way than, say, the US Constitution or the American flag. I’m not a monarchist by any means, but I can see how the institution serves a purpose. Whether it deserves to be so exceedingly rich while serving is a major drawback. OTOH the Royal Family has gradually become more “common” since Elizabeth II was enthroned. Her grandchildren (Diana’s kids) will be much more approachable as people than Liz was.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 18, 2017 • 4:18:21am

re: #121 wheat-dogg

A fair point, but in many way the Crown serves as a symbol of Great Britain in a more concrete way than, say, the US Constitution or the American flag. I’m not a monarchist by any means, but I can see how the institution serves a purpose. Whether it deserves to be so exceedingly rich while serving is a major drawback. OTOH the Royal Family has gradually become more “common” since Elizabeth II was enthroned. Her grandchildren (Diana’s kids) will be much more approachable as people than Liz was.

They should be privatized. Make them work for a living, and if they go bankrupt, they can be replaced by another line of the family with more appeal.

My father in law is a British Tory and he used to complain about the rise of an established welfare class in Britain, at which point I noted that the Royal Family has been living off the public dole for centuries.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 18, 2017 • 4:21:31am

re: #20 Belafon

One of those “dust in my eye” stories:

They shared a birthday party, when other children told them that because of their skin color, they couldn’t be twins.

That is incorrect. Here is a pair of honest-to-gosh twin sisters:

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A Mom Anon  Dec 18, 2017 • 4:30:17am

re: #113 Anymouse 🌹

I heard about this crap all the time as a kid in the 60s and 70s. My parents are/were Amway Evangelicals. They planned this at local levels and state and federal levels simultaneously and that is why we have a wing nut infestation at every level of government and media today. This crap ruins families. There was a time period when my son was 6 to 16 that they didn’t speak to us. Why? Because I own books about pagan religions. Mom saw those and seriously decided our house was some portal to evil. So, for TEN YEARS they didn’t talk to us and missed a huge part of their only grandson’s life. And now they realize that the reason my son doesn’t talk to them much is because they pushed us away over bullshit. To their credit, they always pushed me to read and think critically and be smart, but not so much with my two siblings, both younger than I. But their religion and politics haven’t changed and it’s a wedge that helped break our family apart. Now why is it I don’t go to church again? Can’t imagine why…..

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Dizzy  Dec 18, 2017 • 4:33:05am
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Shropshire Slasher  Dec 18, 2017 • 4:40:42am

re: #116 wheat-dogg

Either I need moar coffee or that article isn’t written all that well. (I need more coffee). That being said, it is a good read. I am not done with it yet.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 18, 2017 • 4:43:14am

re: #124 A Mom Anon

I heard about this crap all the time as a kid in the 60s and 70s. My parents are/were Amway Evangelicals. They planned this at local levels and state and federal levels simultaneously and that is why we have a wing nut infestation at every level of government and media today.

Especially after Reagan threw the Evangelicals under the bus as soon as Nancy’s house astrologer told them that the signs were propitious to do so. They decided that they would just start insinuating their people at all levels of society and government. Mike Pence represents their triumph and he is one shaky heartbeat away from the Presidency.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2017 • 4:47:04am
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wheat-dogg  Dec 18, 2017 • 5:03:32am

Japanese grad student accidentally discovers self-healing polymer “glass.”

theguardian.com

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A Mom Anon  Dec 18, 2017 • 5:06:54am

re: #127 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I didn’t realize til I was taking civics and history classes in high school how serious this was. My parents were such big deals in Amway at the time that Jay VanAndel (Amway’s co founder with Rich DeVos) actually came to our house in Columbus,Ohio when they made Double Diamond Direct Distributors level. And there was a LOT of pressure for people like my parents to either run for office or be VERY supportive of Amway’s preferred and godly candidate. Liberals never did take this shit seriously enough, and it’s part of why we’re where we are today.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 18, 2017 • 5:14:23am

re: #130 A Mom Anon

I didn’t realize til I was taking civics and history classes in high school how serious this was. My parents were such big deals in Amway at the time that Jay VanAndel (Amway’s co founder with Rich DeVos) actually came to our house in Columbus,Ohio when they made Double Diamond Direct Distributors level. And there was a LOT of pressure for people like my parents to either run for office or be VERY supportive of Amway’s preferred and godly candidate. Liberals never did take this shit seriously enough, and it’s part of why we’re where we are today.

Having been to Amway (and other MLM meetings), I can say they are not unlike revival meetings, with God and Jesus being replaced with money and success. All you need to do is push the products — and membership schemes — on your family and friends, which is essentially proselytizing. As with any religion, MLMers believe they have All the Answers, and want everyone else to see the light. Obviously, there is lot of overlap with prosperity gospel sects and notions of “poor people are poor because they don’t work hard enough.”

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Shropshire Slasher  Dec 18, 2017 • 5:17:35am

re: #131 wheat-dogg

and here I thought it was a simple pyramid scheme…

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wheat-dogg  Dec 18, 2017 • 5:18:39am

re: #132 Shropshire Slasher

and here I thought it was a simple pyramid scheme…

Well, that, too. And for the deVos family, a very successful one.

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John Hughes  Dec 18, 2017 • 5:21:20am

re: #39 FormerDirtDart

Russian asset & they’re cleaning up?

Got any evidence for that vile, unsupported, accusation of treason?

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Shropshire Slasher  Dec 18, 2017 • 5:21:49am

re: #133 wheat-dogg

and my comment wasn’t meant to be sarcastic. That is all I knew about Amway until today, never heard of the religious side of it. Pyramid schemes are great, if you are at the top of the pyramid.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2017 • 5:26:11am
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A Mom Anon  Dec 18, 2017 • 5:26:58am

re: #133 wheat-dogg

To the tune of over 5 Billion dollars. Amway is where my college fund went. None of us kids went to college because there was no money for it. Somewhere in my old photos is a picture of me and my brother(my sister wasn’t born yet) standing in front of my parents’ brand new van with a custom painted Amway logo, my parents’ name and phone number. We were not allowed to use or buy a product outside of Amway unless Amway didn’t make it. Our garage was full of the stuff and my dad had a second phone line installed in the office he made in the garage. Fun times.

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makeitstop  Dec 18, 2017 • 5:27:31am

re: #66 goddamnedfrank

I missed this earlier. “Um, yeah, hey there Mister Policeman please give us back all that evidence implicating us in crimes kthxbye.”

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Hoarse Whisperer speculates that the transition team believes that they’re getting the same deal re emails as Clinton got - the ability to go through them all and decide which ones they want to withhold.

The only hitch there is that when Clinton made the deal to turn over emails, she wasn’t under any obligation to turn over any of them, but did so as a gesture of cooperation. Her emails weren’t actually part of any investigation.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2017 • 5:27:46am

of course he is…

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wheat-dogg  Dec 18, 2017 • 5:29:30am

re: #137 A Mom Anon

To the tune of over 5 Billion dollars. Amway is where my college fund went. None of us kids went to college because there was no money for it. Somewhere in my old photos is a picture of me and my brother(my sister wasn’t born yet) standing in front of my parents’ brand new van with a custom painted Amway logo, my parents’ name and phone number. We were not allowed to use or buy a product outside of Amway unless Amway didn’t make it. Our garage was full of the stuff and my dad had a second phone line installed in the office he made in the garage. Fun times.

I feel for you. My ex was a serial MLMer, and never was successful in any of them. She wasn’t a True Believer, I suppose.

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A Mom Anon  Dec 18, 2017 • 5:29:32am

re: #139 Backwoods_Sleuth

I don’t think the Pentagon agrees with this….he’s so full of crap. He’s also creepy as fuck.

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darthstar  Dec 18, 2017 • 5:29:40am
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darthstar  Dec 18, 2017 • 5:33:41am

re: #139 Backwoods_Sleuth

of course he is…

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Old man concedes to cloud.

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Mike Lamb  Dec 18, 2017 • 5:36:48am

re: #139 Backwoods_Sleuth

of course he is…

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Fan-fucking-tastic.

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darthstar  Dec 18, 2017 • 5:37:10am

re: #143 darthstar

Old man concedes to cloud.

And Trump looks like shit in that photo…like he just pooped himself a little but realizes there are still people around him.

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darthstar  Dec 18, 2017 • 5:39:30am

re: #145 darthstar

And Trump looks like shit in that photo…like he just pooped himself a little but realizes there are still people around him.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 18, 2017 • 5:39:49am

re: #141 A Mom Anon

I don’t think the Pentagon agrees with this….he’s so full of crap. He’s also creepy as fuck.

They don’t. Matthis himself too.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2017 • 5:41:03am

“nuance”…

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darthstar  Dec 18, 2017 • 5:42:05am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 18, 2017 • 5:44:11am

re: #149 darthstar

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You’ve settled sexual harassment claims twice and you’re a wife beater STFU.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 18, 2017 • 5:44:34am

re: #74 Anymouse 🌹

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Sherk will trigger a mass exodus of Federal employees which is what the RepubliKKKlan Party wants. Already Trump is demoralizing folks at the office I work at. New hires are already forced to pay more into retirement than those hired before 2015. That’s caused several of them to already leave us. Others were planning to retire in a couple years but they’re accelerating those plans to get out before Trump steals their pensions. We’ve already gotten a jolt from increased health insurance premiums that take effect in January.

And don’t forget the holiday jitters we’re having hoping that we aren’t furloughed on Friday!

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HappyWarrior  Dec 18, 2017 • 5:45:25am

re: #148 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“nuance”…

I haven’t read the allegations against Smiley but all the men I’ve seen have deserved their end. I’m sorry but how hard is it to respect a professional relationship?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2017 • 5:46:30am

good grief

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darthstar  Dec 18, 2017 • 5:46:44am

My potential tax cut went from $3800 to $1900 because I live in California.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 18, 2017 • 5:48:45am

re: #153 Backwoods_Sleuth

good grief

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Blocking a legislator I’d actually say is a form of censorship given how important Twitter is to how people govern but even so, Bevin is a petty man baby.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 18, 2017 • 5:49:15am

New Yorker article on the Indivisible contribution to the Roy Moore defeat:

In the other three counties where it knocked on doors, made calls, and sent the majority of its texts—Houston, Dale, and Henry—the G.O.P.’s winning margins shrank by more than twenty points. Steve Bannon, speaking on a Breitbart radio program after Jones defeated Roy Moore, whom Bannon repeatedly stumped for, acknowledged the effectiveness of the collective progressive ground game. Bannon told Breitbart’s editor-in-chief, Alex Marlow, “You’ve gotta give the devil its due.”

newyorker.com

The devil thanks you, Steve.

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darthstar  Dec 18, 2017 • 5:52:42am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2017 • 5:52:56am

heh

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 18, 2017 • 5:54:09am

re: #118 Dave In Austin

He’s on the pot.

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Remind President Shithead that they are 5-1. I’m in the district that went Democratic…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 18, 2017 • 5:54:58am

re: #158 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh

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HappyWarrior  Dec 18, 2017 • 5:57:35am

re: #158 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh

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Man we dodged a bullet with them as our second family but then we made the Trumps the first family.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2017 • 5:57:47am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2017 • 5:59:22am

re: #161 HappyWarrior

Man we dodged a bullet with them as our second family but then we made the Trumps the first family.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 18, 2017 • 5:59:30am

re: #160 Joe Bacon 🌹

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I mean I’m sure Track does have some issues from his service but that she blamed Obama shows how petty she is and how she blames Obama for everything. The sad thing is she passed that bitterness to her older daughters.

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darthstar  Dec 18, 2017 • 5:59:57am

Nobody’s buying the “I changed my vote without reading it” story.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2017 • 6:00:15am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 18, 2017 • 6:00:51am

re: #163 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Not that it’s any consolation to his spouse but at least the Palin crimes are in a small vaccum and not impacting the entire nation.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 18, 2017 • 6:01:31am

re: #166 Backwoods_Sleuth

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FNC would be using it to insult African American parents.

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darthstar  Dec 18, 2017 • 6:02:31am

It’s all fucking theater to them.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 18, 2017 • 6:04:29am

re: #169 darthstar

It’s all fucking theater to them.

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Of course. They went to FNC because they know FNC is their media arm.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2017 • 6:06:39am
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darthstar  Dec 18, 2017 • 6:06:39am

re: #170 HappyWarrior

Of course. They went to FNC because they know FNC is their media arm.

So Trump’s strategy is to win the war of public opinion so we all feel sorry for him after Mueller wins the legal battle? Doesn’t sound like the wisest strategy.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 18, 2017 • 6:09:09am

re: #172 darthstar

So Trump’s strategy is to win the war of public opinion so we all feel sorry for him after Mueller wins the legal battle? Doesn’t sound like the wisest strategy.

No one accused these guys of being smart.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2017 • 6:09:32am
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jeffreyw  Dec 18, 2017 • 6:11:02am

Imgur
Good morning!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2017 • 6:11:03am
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Targetpractice  Dec 18, 2017 • 6:13:39am

Need a laugh this morning? Behold:

CNN reports that Trump has recently been boasting to allies that the Russia probe will be over very shortly, and that Mueller will personally exonerate him. The president believes this, CNN’s sources say, because his attorneys have tried to manage him by telling him that he faces no real danger from the probe.

This is from the same guy who (to this day) insists Comey totally cleared him even though he now insists he fired the man because of moral at the FBI.

Meanwhile:

One Trump ally tells CNN that the president will likely have a “meltdown” after months go by without an exoneration letter, after which “he’ll try and fire Mueller and then be impeached.”

Another Trump ally similarly warns that Trump’s lawyers are playing a dangerous game by buttering him up with happy talk about the Mueller probe ending shortly.

“I’ve known him long enough to know that disappointing him is a problem and they’ve built up a level of expectations for him that are unrealistic,” the source said. “[They’ve] lulled him into a false sense of security.”

So his lawyers are buttering him up with false promises of exoneration, which will lead him to do a lot of stupid shit when he realizes they’re a crock. Yeah, that sounds about right.

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darthstar  Dec 18, 2017 • 6:16:03am

So Trump hired Wray to clean house…and isn’t happy with the pace of firings.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 18, 2017 • 6:20:54am

re: #178 darthstar

So Trump hired Wray to clean house…and isn’t happy with the pace of firings.

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He’s such a petty asshole.

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Targetpractice  Dec 18, 2017 • 6:25:24am

re: #178 darthstar

So Trump hired Wray to clean house…and isn’t happy with the pace of firings.

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In other words Trump has been promoting the very partisanship that his supporters now scream is the reason why Mueller must be fired and the Russia investigation shit-canned.

My surprise, etc…

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dangerman  Dec 18, 2017 • 6:26:12am

re: #161 HappyWarrior

Man we dodged a bullet with them as our second family but then we made the Trumps the first family.

Who is this “we” you speak of?

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darthstar  Dec 18, 2017 • 6:26:42am

re: #141 A Mom Anon

I don’t think the Pentagon agrees with this….he’s so full of crap. He’s also creepy as fuck.

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darthstar  Dec 18, 2017 • 6:27:27am
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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 18, 2017 • 6:27:46am

re: #73 Kragar

Spoilers ahead, read at your own risk

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HappyWarrior  Dec 18, 2017 • 6:28:15am

re: #181 dangerman

Who is this “we” you speak of?

Enough of the American people.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 18, 2017 • 6:30:07am

re: #183 darthstar

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LaPierre is a monster with the blood of hundreds of Americans on his hands for pushing a bs interpretation of the 2nd. He’s also a racist scum:

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HappyWarrior  Dec 18, 2017 • 6:36:41am

I hope Ted Cruz’s father disowns him given the way he kisses not just Trump’s ass but Don Jr’s ass after Trump said Rafael who is loathsome in his own of killing JFK.

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dangerman  Dec 18, 2017 • 6:39:34am

re: #183 darthstar

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“While they ignorantly partied and remained uninformed on an issue that kills thousands of Americans every year, I was crying myself to sleep.”

Ignorantly my ass

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dangerman  Dec 18, 2017 • 6:40:27am

re: #185 HappyWarrior

Enough of the American people.

Oh ” them”

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HappyWarrior  Dec 18, 2017 • 6:41:08am

re: #189 dangerman

Oh ” them”

Yeah should have clarified.

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dangerman  Dec 18, 2017 • 6:42:16am

re: #190 HappyWarrior

Yeah should have clarified.

I know you and what you meant
Just some early morning fun lest I go mad.

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John Carter  Dec 18, 2017 • 6:43:54am

re: #137 A Mom Anon

To the tune of over 5 Billion dollars. Amway is where my college fund went. None of us kids went to college because there was no money for it. Somewhere in my old photos is a picture of me and my brother(my sister wasn’t born yet) standing in front of my parents’ brand new van with a custom painted Amway logo, my parents’ name and phone number. We were not allowed to use or buy a product outside of Amway unless Amway didn’t make it. Our garage was full of the stuff and my dad had a second phone line installed in the office he made in the garage. Fun times.

I thought they were double diamond? I am not sure how it all works but doesn’t that mean they were on the top of the pyramid? What went wrong?

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HappyWarrior  Dec 18, 2017 • 6:44:45am

re: #191 dangerman

I know you and what you meant
Just some early morning fun lest I go mad.

Yep we all need that. Oh and I gotta get a laugh at Ted Cruz trying to school Mark Hamill and neglect to mention that the telecomms love the NN repeal. Cruz really should shut up instead of trying to school celebs on an issue he showed he had zero knowledge about when the Obama Administration first did the rules a couple years ago.

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dangerman  Dec 18, 2017 • 6:52:32am

Apropos of nothing
Bob corker and the new #corkerkickback
Apparently was way more personally valuable to him than the
Statesmanlike principle of not “Adding one penny to the deficit”

How about 1,500,000,000,000,00 pennies to be bought off?
(Yeah I’m on a phone I may have typoed there)

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Targetpractice  Dec 18, 2017 • 6:56:55am

re: #194 dangerman

Apropos of nothing
Bob corker and the new #corkerkickback
Apparently was way more personally valuable to him than the
Statesmanlike principle of not “Adding one penny to the deficit”

How about 1,500,000,000,000,00 pennies to be bought off?
(Yeah I’m on a phone I may have typoed there)

He’s now suddenly “shocked” that the kickback ended up in the bill, is trying to feign ignorance of it, and is publicly demanding to know how a pay-off to him ended up in the bill when he totally didn’t ask for it in exchange for his vote.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 18, 2017 • 7:02:16am
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ObserverArt  Dec 18, 2017 • 7:05:48am

re: #139 Backwoods_Sleuth

of course he is…

TIME

@TIME
Trump to reverse Obama’s recognition of climate change as a national security threat ti.me

8:24 AM - Dec 18, 2017

There you go…fixed.

See how easy this stuff is.

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Targetpractice  Dec 18, 2017 • 7:06:10am

re: #196 The Vicious Babushka

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From the same nitwits who tell you that America had all sorts of things in 1912 without an income tax, without acknowledging that none of those things were anywhere near the size or complexity of today.

Or point to the level of regulation in 1960 versus today and argue things were “better” back then, ignoring not only all of the scientific progress alone made in the 50+ year time period, but also looking ridiculous if you compare that 1960 pile to one from 50 years prior.

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 18, 2017 • 7:15:08am

Anti-vaccers are going to jump all over this Slate article alleging that the clinical trials on the safety of Gardasil were flawed.

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Dom  Dec 18, 2017 • 7:20:19am

In support of impeachment, mentioning it since I can’t formally petition from the UK. A lying, self-serving, megalomaniac President holding anti-establishment rallies might not represent the creep of a repressive society, might not be a moment of transition, but I cannot think of a more worrying set of precedents short of direct calls for disorder. An orderly approach to impeachment is eminently more sensible than ignoring the rot or seeking to fight fire with fire.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 18, 2017 • 7:24:42am

re: #196 The Vicious Babushka

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That tax base means nothing if they’re gutting NN.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 18, 2017 • 7:25:24am

re: #200 Dom

In support of impeachment, mentioning it since I can’t formally petition from the UK. A lying, self-serving, megalomaniac President holding anti-establishment rallies might not represent the creep of a repressive society, might not be a moment of transition, but I cannot think of a more worrying set of precedents short of direct calls for disorder. An orderly approach to impeachment is eminently more sensible than ignoring the rot or seeking to fight fire with fire.

It’ll be easier once the tax debacle is signed. Trump is a distraction from the incredibly destructive policies that his party is pushing through.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 18, 2017 • 7:25:57am

re: #198 Targetpractice

From the same nitwits who tell you that America had all sorts of things in 1912 without an income tax, without acknowledging that none of those things were anywhere near the size or complexity of today.

Or point to the level of regulation in 1960 versus today and argue things were “better” back then, ignoring not only all of the scientific progress alone made in the 50+ year time period, but also looking ridiculous if you compare that 1960 pile to one from 50 years prior.

I still remember Romney telling Obama we have less ships in our Navy than we did in 1918. To which Obama pointed out “Well governor, we have fewer horses too” and explained to Mitt who knows shit little about military issues that times do in fact change and that includes the military.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 18, 2017 • 7:26:23am

So much looking at the past and not looking at the complexity of said past.

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Kilroy was here  Dec 18, 2017 • 7:26:24am

thehill.com
Wow.. Twitter blocks a Nazi..

Twitter suspends far-right British figure retweeted by Trump

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 18, 2017 • 7:28:13am

re: #205 Kilroy was here

thehill.com
Wow.. Twitter blocks a Nazi..

Twitter suspends far-right British figure retweeted by Trump

Today is the day Twitter is suppose to start blocking Nazis. So we’ll see how that goes.

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Belafon  Dec 18, 2017 • 7:28:19am

Yre: #199 Big Beautiful Door

Anti-vaccers are going to jump all over this Slate article alleging that the clinical trials on the safety of Gardasil were flawed.

“Some people died during the development and testing of seat belts.”
“See! I told you seat belts weren’t safe!”

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Decatur Deb  Dec 18, 2017 • 7:30:05am

re: #200 Dom

In support of impeachment, mentioning it since I can’t formally petition from the UK. A lying, self-serving, megalomaniac President holding anti-establishment rallies might not represent the creep of a repressive society, might not be a moment of transition, but I cannot think of a more worrying set of precedents short of direct calls for disorder. An orderly approach to impeachment is eminently more sensible than ignoring the rot or seeking to fight fire with fire.

Trump and his circle are getting so repulsive that impeachment is starting to look like the best alternative. Still, there is the Pence Problem. He will do most of the harm (or worse) that Trump has somehow overlooked. So, “Pence First, Trump Second”.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 18, 2017 • 7:30:48am

re: #207 Belafon

Y

“Some people died during the development and testing of seat belts.”
“See! I told you seat belts weren’t safe!”

Fire trucks kill.

(Mostly firemen.)

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dangerman  Dec 18, 2017 • 7:33:20am

re: #209 Decatur Deb

Fire trucks kill.

(Mostly firemen.)

mother’s milk leads to heroin

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 18, 2017 • 7:33:59am

re: #195 Targetpractice

He’s now suddenly “shocked” that the kickback ended up in the bill, is trying to feign ignorance of it, and is publicly demanding to know how a pay-off to him ended up in the bill when he totally didn’t ask for it in exchange for his vote.

So Murkowski was bought off by drilling in the ANWR and Corker was bought off by a provision that benefits him personally. At least, Lisa sellout was based on what she thought would benefit her state financially; Corker is a real piece of work.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 18, 2017 • 7:35:26am

re: #210 dangerman

mother’s milk leads to heroin

The Slate article spends a lot of words saying that it, itself, is not reliable. It will be convincing to those who crave to be convinced.

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Targetpractice  Dec 18, 2017 • 7:35:35am

re: #203 HappyWarrior

I still remember Romney telling Obama we have less ships in our Navy than we did in 1918. To which Obama pointed out “Well governor, we have fewer horses too” and explained to Mitt who knows shit little about military issues that times do in fact change and that includes the military.

In that case, that’s a MIC tactic as old as the damned hills. Romney’s argument mirrors that of the crowd who called for increased DoD spending due to the “Missile Gap” and the “Bomber Gap” before it. The idea that America cannot truly be superior to the rest of the world if we don’t have the most shiny things in our possession. Even during the 70s, there were warhawks in Congress who accused the Navy of being “weak” because our warships looked too uncluttered versus Soviet ones, which was largely a PR stunt as anybody with a modicum of understanding knew Soviet ships were so cluttered because they had to compensate for a less-sophisticated tech base. Your ships don’t look like floating radio shacks when (for example) the same antenna can do multiple tasks.

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Targetpractice  Dec 18, 2017 • 7:37:18am

re: #211 Hecuba’s daughter

So Murkowski was bought off by drilling in the ANWR and Corker was bought off by a provision that benefits him personally. At least, Lisa sellout was based on what she thought would benefit her state financially; Corker is a real piece of work.

They still both tower over Jeff Flake, whose payoff was the “promise” of being included in the White House discussions on how to address DACA. Last I heard, the White House response to that was “LOL.”

The only person who looks more foolish than him is Susan Collins, who similarly sold her vote on the “promise” that there would be no cuts to Medicare as a result of the tax cuts, a “promise” that the party announced they intend to break before the ink is even dry on the bill.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 18, 2017 • 7:39:01am

re: #213 Targetpractice

Heh. “Bombers vs Missiles” was a proposition in our HS debate class (1959). It was a strange seminary.

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dangerman  Dec 18, 2017 • 7:39:36am

re: #211 Hecuba’s daughter

So Murkowski was bought off by drilling in the ANWR and Corker was bought off by a provision that benefits him personally. At least, Lisa sellout was based on what she thought would benefit her state financially; Corker is a real piece of work.

corker’s just a plain liar
“not one penny”

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 18, 2017 • 7:40:07am

re: #216 dangerman

corker’s just a plain liar
“not one penny”

“Unless it goes in my pocket.”

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 18, 2017 • 7:45:05am

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 18, 2017 • 7:45:34am

re: #142 darthstar

Dr Brenda Fitzgerald

@CDCDirector
I want to assure you there are no banned words at CDC. We will continue to talk about all our important public health programs.

Sean McCabe
@darthstar99
That’s good, because you were starting to look like a vulnerable transgender fetus with no diversity in science-based or evidence-based entitlements.
7:28 AM - Dec 18, 2017
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Dr. Fitzgerald did not exactly address the original allegation: the words were banned from the CDC budget request; they weren’t banned from all discussion.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 18, 2017 • 7:45:43am

My congressperson:

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HappyWarrior  Dec 18, 2017 • 7:46:09am

re: #218 GlutenFreeJesus

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That’s a truth.

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dangerman  Dec 18, 2017 • 7:47:21am

re: #214 Targetpractice

They still both tower over Jeff Flake, whose payoff was the “promise” of being included in the White House discussions on how to address DACA. Last I heard, the White House response to that was “LOL.”

The only person who looks more foolish than him is Susan Collins, who similarly sold her vote on the “promise” that there would be no cuts to Medicare as a result of the tax cuts, a “promise” that the party announced they intend to break before the ink is even dry on the bill.

since this has already been made public, if she really had any sense of decency she could vote no now and could do it with dignity and impunity.

but she’s shown shes got no decency. it’s her version of 15+ trillion (or however many) pennies.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 18, 2017 • 7:59:28am

This is a great article about Jerusalem and what it is really like to live there.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 18, 2017 • 8:01:25am

re: #164 HappyWarrior

I mean I’m sure Track does have some issues from his service but that she blamed Obama shows how petty stupid she is and howthat she blames Obama for everything anything. The sad thing is she passed that bitterness to her older daughters.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 18, 2017 • 8:02:18am

re: #223 The Vicious Babushka

This is a great article about Jerusalem and what it is really like to live there.

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Good article. Thanks.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 18, 2017 • 8:07:22am

re: #178 darthstar

So Trump hired Wray to clean house…and isn’t happy with the pace of firings.

Trump must not understand about 1) the Civil Service; and 2) that most FBI’ers are GOP.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 18, 2017 • 8:11:24am

re: #226 Sir John Barron

Trump must not understand about 1) the Civil Service; and 2) that most FBI’ers are GOP.

Well maybe many FBIers are GOP but I imagine many of them aren’t Trumpers after how he trashed Comey and their agency the way he does.

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 18, 2017 • 8:13:56am

re: #6 Joe Bacon 🌹

Now Jim Bakker is claiming that Trump is related to…Jesus…

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That was pretty insane.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 18, 2017 • 8:15:46am

re: #227 HappyWarrior

Well maybe many FBIers are GOP but I imagine many of them aren’t Trumpers after how he trashed Comey and their agency the way he does.

Oh, then they’re Deep State…

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Citizen K  Dec 18, 2017 • 8:16:43am
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Sir John Barron  Dec 18, 2017 • 8:16:55am

re: #164 HappyWarrior

I mean I’m sure Track does have some issues from his service but that she blamed Obama shows how petty she is and how she blames Obama for everything. The sad thing is she passed that bitterness to her older daughters.

At least its been a few months since I’ve heard about Bristol’s latest doings.

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JordanRules  Dec 18, 2017 • 8:20:12am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 18, 2017 • 8:20:29am

re: #231 Sir John Barron

At least its been a few months since I’ve heard about Bristol’s latest doings.

Yeah true. Honestly I don’t give a fuck that she’s had two pregancies before marriage, hypocritical yes but what I dislike about her is that she and her sister both are just unpleasant people. She’s just as hateful as her mom is.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 18, 2017 • 8:21:06am

re: #232 JordanRules

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JFC.

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Citizen K  Dec 18, 2017 • 8:24:31am

re: #232 JordanRules

re: #234 HappyWarrior

Once again, one of those forged comments literally used Obama, complete with the White House address. It’s brazen, and yet, it seemed to work perfectly as the fig leaf the FCC Repubs needed to fuck over everyone.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 18, 2017 • 8:28:14am

re: #232 JordanRules

I don’t see how idiot pie and the other republicans were not in violation of the Administrative Procedures Act. Many comments were obviously forged and that means that there can be no way that the final resultant determination was made in concordance with the law. Additionally, while those types of panels have more discretion that normal Notice and Comment rulemaking, they still need to demonstrate that the conculsion was not arbitrary and capricous.

Which the decision to revoke net neutrality obviously was.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 18, 2017 • 8:29:38am

re: #232 JordanRules

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The deceased Patty Duke sent in 2 comments. One of her son’s discovered it.

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JordanRules  Dec 18, 2017 • 8:30:38am
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John Carter  Dec 18, 2017 • 8:34:15am

re: #237 Stanley Sea

The deceased Patty Duke sent in 2 comments. One of her son’s discovered it.

I just searched by my last name and found my RWNJ brother! But the funny part is he came our FOR net neutrality.

It is possible that he is for it but I would be pleasantly surprised.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 18, 2017 • 8:34:39am

re: #239 John Carter

I just searched by my last name and found my RWNJ brother! But the funny part is he came our FOR net neutrality.

It is possible that he is for it but I would be pleasantly surprised.

Where is the search engine?

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Mike Lamb  Dec 18, 2017 • 8:34:40am

re: #230 Citizen K

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The megaphone that Trump possesses isn’t as big of deal as the fact that for 30% of the electorate, it matters not at all what Trump does—they’ll support him regardless.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 18, 2017 • 8:36:01am

re: #240 The Vicious Babushka

Where is the search engine?

Yeah??

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William Lewis  Dec 18, 2017 • 8:36:27am

re: #215 Decatur Deb

Heh. “Bombers vs Missiles” was a proposition in our HS debate class (1959). It was a strange seminary.

Would have been nearly impossible to argue accurately given how nothing useful was unclassified at the time. Did your teams at least understand that they were exchanging propaganda points?

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Targetpractice  Dec 18, 2017 • 8:37:39am

re: #230 Citizen K

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As has already been shown over the 6+ months, much of the arguments and excuses offered by Trump’s defenders are warmed over from the Nixon and Reagan years. Even with a Faux around, Tricky Dick would probably still have engaged in the Saturday Night Massacre because of anger over what he felt was an investigation hampering his presidency and still faced the backlash that eventually led to his resignation.

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John Carter  Dec 18, 2017 • 8:48:33am

re: #240 The Vicious Babushka

Where is the search engine?

ag.ny.gov

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 18, 2017 • 8:53:16am
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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Dec 18, 2017 • 8:56:05am

This is a new wrinkle. Normally thumpers and conspiraliars claim they already have these cures and you can buy them off their websites.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2017 • 8:56:07am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 18, 2017 • 8:56:43am

re: #247 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

This is a new wrinkle. Normally thumpers and conspiraliars claim they already have these cures and you can buy them off their websites.

[Embedded content]

Oh? Stick to firefighting.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 18, 2017 • 8:57:43am

re: #243 William Lewis

Would have been nearly impossible to argue accurately given how nothing useful was unclassified at the time. Did your teams at least understand that they were exchanging propaganda points?

High school kids with strictly limited access to secular literature—mostly censored copies of US News and World Report and Sports Illustrated.That was about the time a Jesuit theologian in America (IIRC) said go ahead and shoot your neighbor if he makes a run at your family fallout shelter.

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John Hughes  Dec 18, 2017 • 8:59:31am

re: #166 Backwoods_Sleuth

Should read:

If Obama’s children had as many any arrests or children out of wedlock…

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 18, 2017 • 8:59:31am

re: #245 John Carter

ag.ny.gov

Hmm I found my own name, in support of ending NN, but with an address in Rego Park, NY, so it could be somebody else with the same name (not my daughter-in-law, who also has the same name as me).

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William Lewis  Dec 18, 2017 • 9:00:52am

re: #250 Decatur Deb

High school kids with strictly limited access to secular literature—mostly censored copies of US News and World Report and Sports Illustrated.That was about the time a Jesuit theologian in America (IIRC) said go ahead and shoot your neighbor if he makes a run at your family fallout shelter.

Oy. Things were different by the early 80s when I was debating. I was quite the little peacenik which confused some folks when I signed up… Ah well, time to work.

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BigPapa  Dec 18, 2017 • 9:03:58am
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A Mom Anon  Dec 18, 2017 • 9:04:39am

re: #192 John Carter

Amway is a multi level marketing scheme. Once they couldn’t recruit any new people to join in, the money started drying up. By the time I was in high school, Dad went back to a regular job. He turned to Amway after being laid off as a steel worker, a job he never returned to. He ended up going to work for GA Pacific til he retired. I found out not too long ago that they had also borrowed money against our house to stay afloat. They made money for a couple of years and that was it. So that’s what happened.

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Shropshire Slasher  Dec 18, 2017 • 9:05:08am

Looking for that last minute gift? Justin Bieber sex doll makes its debut. It is safe for work, go on, click. You know the milk has gone bad, but you gotta take a whiff.

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 18, 2017 • 9:05:45am

re: #139 Backwoods_Sleuth

of course he is…

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Contrary to how the, you know, actual military sees it.

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BigPapa  Dec 18, 2017 • 9:07:09am

re: #254 BigPapa

That is officially my best joke ever.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 18, 2017 • 9:07:55am

re: #254 BigPapa

[Embedded content]

Someone asleep during mythology class.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 18, 2017 • 9:08:24am

re: #256 Shropshire Slasher

Pretty sure you should put that behind an infinite number of privacy tags.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2017 • 9:09:40am

re: #246 The Vicious Babushka

[Embedded content]

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CongoJack  Dec 18, 2017 • 9:10:19am

re: #245 John Carter

Looked up my last name (not a common name) and found that my mother wrote 5 times and each was about 3 pages long going into great detail why net neutrality should stay. Oh mom…. bet you didn’t think these items would be online.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 18, 2017 • 9:11:13am

re: #262 CongoJack

Looked up my last name (not a common name) and found that my mother wrote 5 times and each was about 3 pages long going into great detail why net neutrality should stay. Oh mom…. bet you didn’t think these items would be online.

At least she’s on the correct side of the issue. I looked up my last name, also uncommon. Nothing from anyone I’m related to.

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John Hughes  Dec 18, 2017 • 9:11:20am

re: #247 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Self-proclaimed “firefighter prophet” Mark Taylor says that Trump will release the long-secret cures for cancer and Alzheimer’s during his second term in office.

Trump’ll probably need them both if he gets a second term.

Hell, he probably needs the Alzheimer’s one now.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Dec 18, 2017 • 9:11:50am

re: #254 BigPapa

[Embedded content]

Trojan is still a better name for condoms than Ramses, who had over 100 kids.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2017 • 9:11:56am

Chin, who has been attorney general since 2015, is seeking to replace Rep. Colleen Hanabusa (D-Hawaii), who announced earlier this year she will run for governor in 2018.

Two Democratic state representatives, Donna Kim and Kaniela Ing, have announced they will run for the seat as well. Singer Brian Evans said he will run for the seat as a Republican.

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 18, 2017 • 9:12:55am

re: #168 HappyWarrior

FNC would be using it to insult African American parents.

Yep. At least he didn’t take a hit off a joint.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 18, 2017 • 9:12:59am

re: #266 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Don’t know much about him aside from his work challenging the ban but I like that a lot. I hope someone primaries Gabbard too. There’s too many people who think she should be president or VP.

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dangerman  Dec 18, 2017 • 9:13:36am

re: #236 Colère Tueur de Lapin

I don’t see how idiot pie and the other republicans were not in violation of the Administrative Procedures Act. Many comments were obviously forged and that means that there can be no way that the final resultant determination was made in concordance with the law. Additionally, while those types of panels have more discretion that normal Notice and Comment rulemaking, they still need to demonstrate that the conculsion was not arbitrary and capricous.

Which the decision to revoke net neutrality obviously was.

pai’s answer:
it was neither arbitrary nor capricous. our vote, our judgment.
we simply didnt give any weight to all the comments, real or “fictional”

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HappyWarrior  Dec 18, 2017 • 9:14:03am

re: #267 Eventual Carrion

Yep. At least he didn’t take a hit off a joint.

Barack and Michelle are so much better parents than Todd and Sarah. But which one gets treated like a person of virtue on FNC.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 18, 2017 • 9:16:43am

re: #245 John Carter

ag.ny.gov

I’m not there!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2017 • 9:17:15am
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dangerman  Dec 18, 2017 • 9:18:47am

re: #258 BigPapa

That is officially my best joke ever.

well if we’re going there….
one of my three all time faves:

On Halloween, a little boy dressed as a pirate. He went up to a house and rang the doorbell. A man answered and said, “Oh, a pirate. But where are your buccaneers?”

The little boy replied. “Under my buccan hat.”

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 18, 2017 • 9:19:22am
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Targetpractice  Dec 18, 2017 • 9:19:41am

re: #272 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

I’d say it’s pretty obvious by now that the GOP doesn’t give a shit about next year, they just figure they’re fucked already and are seeing this as their last real opportunity to raid the Treasury before they have to start…you know…pretending they give a shit about anything resembling “principles.”

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Decatur Deb  Dec 18, 2017 • 9:19:47am

re: #262 CongoJack

Looked up my last name (not a common name) and found that my mother wrote 5 times and each was about 3 pages long going into great detail why net neutrality should stay. Oh mom…. bet you didn’t think these items would be online.

One other guy with my uncommon First/Last from a far city. Probably real, though it was entered twice.

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 18, 2017 • 9:20:08am

Jesus what a clown.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2017 • 9:22:55am
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dangerman  Dec 18, 2017 • 9:23:31am

re: #272 Backwoods_Sleuth

Poll: GOP tax bill causing large drop in approval ratings of Republicans hill.cm

the “middle class” or individual market equivalent of the stock market is tanking.
quelle surprise.

of course the real stock market is going up you lunkheads

you’re giving them an early and permanent xmas present they have no intention of regifting as higher wages

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2017 • 9:24:14am

heh…it continues:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2017 • 9:26:37am
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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Dec 18, 2017 • 9:26:56am

The Country’s Most Expensive Home is Mind-Bogglingly Luxurious

Enter 924 Bel Air Rd., the most expensive home in America, currently on the market for a cool $250 million. NBD.

This is the creation of noted degenerate developer Bruce Makosky, who had noticed a disparity between billionaires’ homes, typically a few million, and their $100 million super yachts. It comes will all furnishings and amenities, including $30 million worth of luxury cars, a helicopter, and 7 servants fully paid for 2 years. It also has a 5 foot stainless steel replica of a Leica camera (?).
A few additional points:
-It looks like a smarmy over-priced hotel
-Bruce’s chances of selling the place have taken a major jump with the new Trump tax plan.
-It sits on a single acre and has practically no grounds.
-The “magnificent view of the LA skyline” is as much about being seen as seeing.
-I really, really don’t like the idea of people being included with a house sale, even if they are being paid and could presumably leave at any time.

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 18, 2017 • 9:27:17am

And the “liberal media” played along, credulously blasting the transition team’s bullshit claim all weekend.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 18, 2017 • 9:27:26am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 18, 2017 • 9:28:10am

re: #280 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh…it continues:

[Embedded content]

Big companies, Ted, you mean like Comcast and all the other telecomms that supported the repeal? Oh and you already showed you knew nothing about the issue in 2015 when President Obama implemetned the rules. So STFU and go back to sucking up to the people who called your father, JFK’s killer and cry youreslf to sleep about how you’ll never be President and you’re going to lose to Beto O’Rourke this fall.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 18, 2017 • 9:28:36am

re: #281 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Hatch is a disgusting old hack.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 18, 2017 • 9:29:02am

re: #284 Stanley Sea

[Embedded content]

He didn’t care because he’s compromised and he thinks he knows more than they do.

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Shropshire Slasher  Dec 18, 2017 • 9:30:31am

If you have Netflix, like zombie movies, and don’t mind sub-titles, Train to Busan is quite excellent.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2017 • 9:30:38am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 18, 2017 • 9:32:57am

re: #289 Backwoods_Sleuth

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*Unless you’re a liberal Democrat and not religious and then we’ll prejudge you for everything.

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Targetpractice  Dec 18, 2017 • 9:33:18am

re: #281 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Hatch providing cover for Corker, who seemed to be getting cold feet at the most inopportune moment for the GOP.

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Targetpractice  Dec 18, 2017 • 9:34:09am

re: #283 goddamnedfrank

And the “liberal media” played along, credulously blasting the transition team’s bullshit claim all weekend.

[Embedded content]

Press once again uncritically reports ravings from Trump/his staff as “facts,” then wonder why their readers/viewers are so pissed at them.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 18, 2017 • 9:36:49am

re: #282 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

That is a nightmare. Who wants to live in a tacky hotel?

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Shropshire Slasher  Dec 18, 2017 • 9:38:14am

re: #245 John Carter

My name is there!

//

fcc.gov

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 18, 2017 • 9:38:26am

re: #282 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Ridiculously ostentatious.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 18, 2017 • 9:38:47am

re: #281 Backwoods_Sleuth

Manu Raju

@mkraju
Hatch responds to Corker, defends provision in tax bill and says Corker and staff had no involvement in measure. “I am disgusted by press reports that have distorted one particular aspect of the conference agreement,” Hatch said, referring to reports provision could enrich Corker
10:10 AM - Dec 18, 2017
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Jim Sciutto

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What is “disgusting” about shedding light on provisions in the tax bill that members of Congress & other elected officials stand to benefit from?


10:18 AM - Dec 18, 2017

It’s possible that is true : the provision was added to help Trump and Corker was just a side beneficiary. Nyah — Corker was in on it. That was his reward for switching positions.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2017 • 9:40:40am
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Ace-o-aces  Dec 18, 2017 • 9:41:37am

Oh god, please let this happen.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2017 • 9:42:25am
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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 18, 2017 • 9:42:38am

re: #262 CongoJack

Looked up my last name (not a common name) and found that my mother wrote 5 times and each was about 3 pages long going into great detail why net neutrality should stay. Oh mom…. bet you didn’t think these items would be online.

I found the exact same comments against NN under both my wife’s and my mother’s names, though from two different states than where we live.

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TedStriker  Dec 18, 2017 • 9:43:20am

re: #265 bill d. (b.d.)

Trojan is still a better name for condoms than Ramses, who had over 100 kids.

“Ramses, curse of the pharaohs!” - Meat, Porky’s

///

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Dec 18, 2017 • 9:43:22am

The Pitchforks Are Coming… For Us Plutocrats

By NICK HANAUER July/August 2014

Nick’s 3 year old warning is more timely, and more urgent, than ever. The alarming trends he saw in 2014 have gone into massive overdrive under the Trump administration.

But the problem isn’t that we have inequality. Some inequality is intrinsic to any high-functioning capitalist economy. The problem is that inequality is at historically high levels and getting worse every day. Our country is rapidly becoming less a capitalist society and more a feudal society. Unless our policies change dramatically, the middle class will disappear, and we will be back to late 18th-century France. Before the revolution.

And so I have a message for my fellow filthy rich, for all of us who live in our gated bubble worlds: Wake up, people. It won’t last.

If we don’t do something to fix the glaring inequities in this economy, the pitchforks are going to come for us. No society can sustain this kind of rising inequality. In fact, there is no example in human history where wealth accumulated like this and the pitchforks didn’t eventually come out. You show me a highly unequal society, and I will show you a police state. Or an uprising. There are no counterexamples. None. It’s not if, it’s when.

.

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A Mom Anon  Dec 18, 2017 • 9:43:43am

re: #297 Backwoods_Sleuth

I so want to see Black Metal Cats do a caption for this one…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2017 • 9:44:32am

re: #303 A Mom Anon

I so want to see Black Metal Cats do a caption for this one…

I was thinking the same thing.
That is a perfect Black Metal kitteh.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2017 • 9:47:27am

I’m shocked.
You?

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Targetpractice  Dec 18, 2017 • 9:49:04am

re: #305 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m shocked.
You?

[Embedded content]

“Making America Great Again”…by totally obliterating all our alliances and international goodwill.

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dangerman  Dec 18, 2017 • 9:50:04am

re: #296 Hecuba’s daughter

It’s possible that is true : the provision was added to help Trump and Corker was just a side beneficiary. Nyah — Corker was in on it. That was his reward for switching positions.

i know it doesnt matter any more

i really thought “not add one penny to the deficit” was a pretty clear and simple line for him to voluntarily draw

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 18, 2017 • 9:50:22am

re: #296 Hecuba’s daughter

It’s possible that is true : the provision was added to help Trump and Corker was just a side beneficiary. Nyah — Corker was in on it. That was his reward for switching positions.

Whether he was or not, it should be highlighted because its a gratuitous giveaway to a few rich people that does absolutely nothing to promote new jobs. These LLCs which hold lots of real estate don’t employ many people.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2017 • 9:51:00am
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JordanRules  Dec 18, 2017 • 9:51:04am
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dangerman  Dec 18, 2017 • 9:53:45am

re: #308 Big Beautiful Door

Whether he was or not, it should be highlighted because its a gratuitous giveaway to a few rich people that does absolutely nothing to promote new jobs. These LLCs which hold lots of real estate don’t employ many people.

while this is the winner comment, it’s but one in a long line of totally-being-ignored lies theyve been telling about this bill since the start

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2017 • 9:58:17am
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rhuarc  Dec 18, 2017 • 9:58:58am

IMO I think it’s becoming obviously clear that the Republicans know they are toast in 2018. Probably to the point of not having a majority in either chamber. However, they will retain enough numbers in the Senate that they can filibuster everything.

So they want to pass this wealth transfer bill for their corporate masters knowing that in the 2018, even in the minority, the Democrats won’t be able to pass their own version of a tax bill because of the filibuster as well as Trump. And in the meantime, since Americans are largely dumb and ignorant about economics and have the memory of a fruit fly, the Republicans will be able to get their messaging out about Democrats wanting to raise taxes and then take back the Senate and keep the White House in 2020. And if the economy tanks between 2018-2020 we know who will get the blame and, thus, ensuring a better chance in 2020 for Republicans.

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JordanRules  Dec 18, 2017 • 9:59:07am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 18, 2017 • 10:01:18am

re: #247 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

This is a new wrinkle. Normally thumpers and conspiraliars claim they already have these cures and you can buy them off their websites.

[Embedded content]

And it’s Jim Bakker pushing the bullshit again!

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JordanRules  Dec 18, 2017 • 10:01:30am

re: #284 Stanley Sea

Wow. They had to know this was going to come back to haunt them.

317
HappyWarrior  Dec 18, 2017 • 10:04:47am

re: #315 Joe Bacon 🌹

And it’s Jim Bakker pushing the bullshit again!

I mean it’s one thing for them to like Trump but they go all out. with the crazy zealotry stuff.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 18, 2017 • 10:05:22am

re: #316 JordanRules

[Embedded content]

Wow. They had to know this was going to come back to haunt them.

They knew but didn’t give a shit because they figured they could always worm their way out of it.

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TedStriker  Dec 18, 2017 • 10:05:41am

re: #316 JordanRules

[Embedded content]

Wow. They had to know this was going to come back to haunt them.

I don’t think they gave a fuck, so long as Trump won.

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KGxvi  Dec 18, 2017 • 10:07:53am

re: #316 JordanRules

[Embedded content]

Wow. They had to know this was going to come back to haunt them.

You’re giving them too much credit. They’re not smart enough to have known that it’d haunt them. Afterall, these idiots think they’re smarter than the intelligence community and/or that the DOJ is now Trump’s personal counsel.

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JordanRules  Dec 18, 2017 • 10:10:11am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2017 • 10:12:56am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2017 • 10:16:08am

Paul Ryan’s spokesperson says there’s nothing to see here. Hatch has spoken CLEAR FACTS, so everybody needs to shut up about Corker:

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Ace-o-aces  Dec 18, 2017 • 10:16:28am

re: #312 Backwoods_Sleuth

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JordanRules  Dec 18, 2017 • 10:18:01am

re: #323 Backwoods_Sleuth

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darthstar  Dec 18, 2017 • 10:18:43am

Stole a copy of Mark Hamill’s wallpaper.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 18, 2017 • 10:19:25am

I could use a nice windfall just about now.

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darthstar  Dec 18, 2017 • 10:20:34am

re: #327 Barefoot Grin

I could use a nice windfall just about now.

Have you thought about putting a little somethin-somethin’ into the GOP tax bill?

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JordanRules  Dec 18, 2017 • 10:21:23am
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Barefoot Grin  Dec 18, 2017 • 10:21:45am

re: #328 darthstar

Have you thought about putting a little somethin-somethin’ into the GOP tax bill?

LOL. I got a “little something” right here! Wait….

331
Belafon  Dec 18, 2017 • 10:22:30am

re: #323 Backwoods_Sleuth

Paul Ryan’s spokesperson says there’s nothing to see here. Hatch has spoken CLEAR FACTS, so everybody needs to shut up about Corker:

[Embedded content]

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Targetpractice  Dec 18, 2017 • 10:23:38am

So if it’s not a kickback to Corker, then it can be removed from the bill without any serious opposition and Corker will still vote for the bill despite his supposed opposition to any bill that would raise the deficit…right?

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 18, 2017 • 10:24:26am

Is this a scene out of Atlas Shrugged or what?

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 18, 2017 • 10:24:45am

Just sent Bob Corker an email accusing him of selling out for 30 pieces of silver. Maybe he will be concerned enough about his reputation that he will reconsider his betrayal. Or maybe, being a Republican means never having to say you’re sorry.

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ipsos  Dec 18, 2017 • 10:27:46am

re: #332 Targetpractice

So if it’s not a kickback to Corker, then it can be removed from the bill without any serious opposition and Corker will still vote for the bill despite his supposed opposition to any bill that would raise the deficit…right?

More to the point - we know how Corker will benefit because we can see his tax return.

It is still a mystery as to how Cheeto will benefit…. for now, all we can do is guess.

I’d be all for a law that says a lawmaker or president cannot take advantage of the provisions of a tax bill they’ve voted for or signed. Especially without disclosing their own returns.

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darthstar  Dec 18, 2017 • 10:28:33am
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dangerman  Dec 18, 2017 • 10:29:27am

re: #325 JordanRules

[Embedded content]
Assuming everything in this letter is true, the fundamental issue remains: the actual provision is *actually* a windfall for Corker

Hence blind trusts and all

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darthstar  Dec 18, 2017 • 10:33:18am
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darthstar  Dec 18, 2017 • 10:33:54am

Please don’t bring that bigot into our town. Words you never heard when Obama was president.

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dangerman  Dec 18, 2017 • 10:34:14am

re: #337 dangerman

Hence blind trusts and all

…because you cannot be objective if it affects you and your friends personally

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Citizen K  Dec 18, 2017 • 10:34:51am

re: #339 darthstar

Please don’t bring that bigot into our town. Words you never heard when Obama was president.

But don’t you know, Trump is showing how strong the US and making sure the country is more respected than ever, better than that damn apologist Obama!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 18, 2017 • 10:34:58am
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darthstar  Dec 18, 2017 • 10:38:11am
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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Dec 18, 2017 • 10:41:46am

re: #343 darthstar

Lifestyles of the rich and trashy.

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darthstar  Dec 18, 2017 • 10:43:39am

re: #344 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Lifestyles of the rich and trashy.

It’s all fun and games until you try dipping into mommy’s meth stash.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 18, 2017 • 10:47:01am

re: #343 darthstar

[Embedded content]

Todd was hurt pretty badly last year, so I’m wondering if there were pain meds around and Track was after that. Not sure why I think so.

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darthstar  Dec 18, 2017 • 10:50:22am

re: #346 Barefoot Grin

Todd was hurt pretty badly last year, so I’m wondering if there were pain meds around and Track was after that. Not sure why I think so.

Meds may be one thing. I suspect they keep a lot of cash on hand as well as they’re too fucking stupid to invest. Track’s ripping off mommy because he knows she’s the richest person in Wasilla.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 18, 2017 • 10:59:05am

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Embattled Washington Rep. Matt Shea Is Skirting State Law to Funnel Campaign Funds to Far-Right Groups Shea uses his office and campaign funds to spearhead a partitionist effort to split Washington into two states, and may have violated state laws by using surplus campaign funds to make at least $5,500 in contributions to far-right nonprofit ...
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The Outer Worlds - Official Announcement Trailer Watch the official announcement trailer for The Outer Worlds, a new single-player first-person sci-fi RPG from Obsidian Entertainment and Private Division. In The Outer Worlds, you awake from hibernation on a colonist ship that was lost in transit to ...
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The Umbrella Academy When it rains, it pours. Here's your first look at The Umbrella Academy. Coming to Netflix February 15. A dysfunctional family of superheroes comes together to solve the mystery of their father's death, the threat of the apocalypse and ...
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Elvis Costello & the Imposters - Suspect My Tears The new deluxe album ‘Look Now’ out now, order here: elviscostello.lnk.to Explore more music from Elvis Costello: lnk.to Follow Elvis Costello:Facebook: facebook.comInstagram: instagram.comTwitter: twitter.comWebsite: elviscostello.com Director & Original Story - MustashrikExecutive Production - Whitney JacksonProduced by Partizan VFX Supervisor ...
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VULFPECK /// Half of the Way (Feat. Theo Katzman) VULFPECK /// Half of the Waybuy on bandcamp → vuuulf.com Theo Katzman — vocalsLarry Goldings — piano, composerRyan Lerman — guitar, composer, engineerJoey Dosik — saxWoody Goss — tambourineJack Stratton — drums, mixingJoe Dart — fender bassCory Wong — ...
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Storyhill - Blazing Out of Sight (Live at Radio Heartland)Storyhill perform "Blazing Out of Sight," from their 2007 self-titled album as well from the 2018 compilation, "Stages," live at Radio Heartland.
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How Smooth Jazz Took Over the ’90s You should give smooth jazz a chance. Subscribe to our channel! goo.gl Smooth jazz has gotten a bad rap for decades. It’s often associated with background music for elevators or the soundtrack at the dentist office. Smooth jazz is ...
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Feds Target Butina’s GOP Boyfriend as Foreign Agent Paul Erickson, a longtime Republican politico whose Russian girlfriend is in jail on charges she acted as a covert foreign agent, has been informed that he may face similar accusations. The Daily Beast reviewed a so-called “target letter” that ...
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Police: Charge Benjamin and Sara Netanyahu With Bribery in Telecom Case - Israel News - Haaretz.com The police and Israel Securities Authority on Sunday recommended indicting Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyau and his wife, Sara, as well as media mogul Shaul Elovitch and his wife, Iris, for bribery and other corruption charges in the investigation dubbed ...
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