In Which Max Boot Awakens: “2017 Was the Year I Learned About My White Privilege”

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The vast majority of conservatives have obviously decided they can live with themselves as they support the malignant narcissist in the White House, but in an almost miraculous development the election of this monster has actually bashed some sense into some conservative heads.

For one, Max Boot: 2017 Was the Year I Learned About My White Privilege.

A quarter century is enough time to examine deeply held shibboleths and to see if they comport with reality. In my case, I have concluded that my beliefs were based more on faith than on a critical examination of the evidence. In the last few years, in particular, it has become impossible for me to deny the reality of discrimination, harassment, even violence that people of color and women continue to experience in modern-day America from a power structure that remains for the most part in the hands of straight, white males. People like me, in other words. Whether I realize it or not, I have benefitted from my skin color and my gender — and those of a different gender or sexuality or skin color have suffered because of it.

This sounds obvious, but it wasn’t clear to me until recently. I have had my consciousness raised. Seriously.

I actually had my own awakening to the horrors of the right nearly 10 years ago, but I had the advantage of having been a liberal for most of my life, before the 9/11 attacks. Max Boot is coming to these realizations rather late — but better late than never. (To conclude with a horrendous cliché.)

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meteor  Dec 27, 2017 • 3:06:47pm
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austin_blue  Dec 27, 2017 • 3:08:54pm

“Whether I realize it or not, I have benefitted from my skin color and my gender — and those of a different gender or sexuality or skin color have suffered because of it.

This sounds obvious, but it wasn’t clear to me until recently. I have had my consciousness raised. Seriously.”

Well, will wonders never cease! Good for you, Max.

Now, let’s talk about some of your Foreign Policy positions…

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Scout  Dec 27, 2017 • 3:13:09pm

I tried reading the Max Boot article, but all I get is “file not found.”

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scottslemmons  Dec 27, 2017 • 3:13:33pm

Hrm, is there something wrong with that link? I’ve tried it a couple times and I get a weird redirect URL that starts with fp-reg.onecount.net and includes the page URL at the end of the address…

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austin_blue  Dec 27, 2017 • 3:16:51pm

re: #3 Scout

I tried reading the Max Boot article, but all I get is “file not found.”

re: #4 scottslemmons

Hrm, is there something wrong with that link? I’ve tried it a couple times and I get a weird redirect URL that starts with fp-reg.onecount.net and includes the page URL at the end of the address…

Works for me.

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freetoken  Dec 27, 2017 • 3:17:33pm

re: #4 scottslemmons

Works for me too, once I get past the advert.

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freetoken  Dec 27, 2017 • 3:18:44pm

And, frankly, unless this confession of Boot’s is followed by a few years of meaningful and insightful writing, then this bit by him is for nought.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2017 • 3:21:47pm

good grief

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scottslemmons  Dec 27, 2017 • 3:22:01pm

re: #6 freetoken

Works for me too, once I get past the advert.

Hmm, maybe one of those sites that blocks people using ad blockers…

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Dec 27, 2017 • 3:24:13pm

re: #3 Scout

I tried reading the Max Boot article, but all I get is “file not found.”

I think you have to turn off your adblocker or connect to the Foreign Policy site using a Private (incognito) session. Most of these sites are blocker-aware nowadays.

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Targetpractice  Dec 27, 2017 • 3:24:30pm

re: #8 Backwoods_Sleuth

good grief

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The assumption we’re supposed to make being that all those fighters are dead, rather than just hiding amongst the civilian population again until we leave.

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ObserverArt  Dec 27, 2017 • 3:24:51pm

re: #7 freetoken

And, frankly, unless this confession of Boot’s is followed by a few years of meaningful and insightful writing, then this bit by him is for nought.

MSNBC uses him quite often as a commenter and political voice, and he has been critical of Trump pretty much from the get-go.

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 27, 2017 • 3:28:58pm

The Gods gave us slow motion video to capture dogs in action, period.

Well, dogs in action, and explosions…

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 27, 2017 • 3:29:58pm

Thanks Trump

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 27, 2017 • 3:32:57pm

re: #11 Targetpractice

The assumption we’re supposed to make being that all those fighters are dead, rather than just hiding amongst the civilian population again until we leave.

Maybe it was inevitable, but we and the Iraq forces also killed an estimated 10,000 civilians in retaking Mosul.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 27, 2017 • 3:38:47pm

re: #15 Barefoot Grin

You think Trump gives a shit about collateral damage?

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ObserverArt  Dec 27, 2017 • 3:38:49pm

Damn. Ari Melber takes it to Zuckerberg…again. He really does not like his bullshit. This is about the fourth time I’ve seen Ari spend a good amount of time on Facebook and their politics for money.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 27, 2017 • 3:41:43pm

re: #16 Eclectic Cyborg

You think Trump gives a shit about collateral damage?

Or any of the “bomb the desert into glass” Trump supporters….

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 27, 2017 • 3:44:55pm

Maybe I am wrong on this: but I thought Max Boot was like Bill Kristol — a neo-con who actually did not care about social issues, cultural issues, or economic issues, except to the extent they affected FP issues. They aligned themselves with the party that matched most closely their FP objectives. In the age of Trump, they had to rethink where they really belong.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2017 • 3:45:22pm

LOL…sorta NSFW:

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Targetpractice  Dec 27, 2017 • 3:45:30pm

re: #15 Barefoot Grin

Maybe it was inevitable, but we and the Iraq forces also killed an estimated 10,000 civilians in retaking Mosul.

Or as Trump’s base calls it, “a small price to pay.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2017 • 3:46:19pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 27, 2017 • 3:48:57pm

re: #22 Backwoods_Sleuth

@AP
Puerto Rico police call in sick to protest millions of dollars in unpaid overtime; Authorities says slow federal reimbursement part of the problem. apne.ws
5:12 PM - Dec 27, 2017

How can the Trump government actually care about these workers — after all, they aren’t the 1%, are they? //

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2017 • 3:51:09pm
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gocart mozart  Dec 27, 2017 • 3:51:26pm

re: #4 scottslemmons

Try this

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2017 • 3:53:04pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 27, 2017 • 3:56:17pm

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2017 • 3:58:09pm

i laughed…i am a bad person…

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retired cynic  Dec 27, 2017 • 3:59:09pm

re: #28 Backwoods_Sleuth

i laughed…i am a bad person…

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Oh, Photoshop….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2017 • 4:07:23pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2017 • 4:13:55pm
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A Cranky One  Dec 27, 2017 • 4:16:14pm

A Florida man has been accused of misusing the emergency telephone system after he allegedly called 911 to gripe about being served tiny clams at a local seafood restaurant.HuffPost

Idiot called 911 multiple times to complain. What’s happening to Americans? After all, this is obviously a case for small clams court.

/runs away in a hurry

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austin_blue  Dec 27, 2017 • 4:16:20pm

re: #31 Backwoods_Sleuth

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It’s the old lawyer joke isn’t it?

“How can you tell when Trump’s lying?

His lips are moving.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2017 • 4:17:00pm

boo*fucking*hoo
(and the responses to the tweet are just YIKES)

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austin_blue  Dec 27, 2017 • 4:17:01pm

re: #32 A Cranky One

A Florida man has been accused of misusing the emergency telephone system after he allegedly called 911 to gripe about being served tiny clams at a local seafood restaurant.HuffPost

Idiot called 911 multiple times to complain. What’s happening to Americans? After all, this is obviously a case for small clams court.

/runs away in a hurry

Bravo!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 27, 2017 • 4:17:17pm

re: #31 Backwoods_Sleuth

You think they’ve been giving him fake Bills to sign to make him think things are getting done?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2017 • 4:17:57pm

re: #36 Eclectic Cyborg

You think they’ve been giving him fake Bills to sign to make him think things are getting done?

those post offices aren’t going to name themselves…

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austin_blue  Dec 27, 2017 • 4:18:36pm

re: #37 Backwoods_Sleuth

those post offices aren’t going to name themselves…

Exactly.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 27, 2017 • 4:18:53pm

re: #34 Backwoods_Sleuth

The egos on some of these journalists. How dare their plebeian readers CRITICIZE the omniscient ones?

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Jay C  Dec 27, 2017 • 4:21:15pm

re: #36 Eclectic Cyborg

You think they’ve been giving him fake Bills to sign to make him think things are getting done?

Yeah, they’ve gotten the “bills” from those stacks of blank papers the Yam loves to display….

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austin_blue  Dec 27, 2017 • 4:22:28pm

re: #39 Charles Johnson

The egos on some of these journalists. How dare their plebeian readers CRITICIZE the omniscient ones?

“I go to all the hard work of interviewing these shining examples of the common man and you give me grief? I’m a professional doing the hard work to bring you insightful information on The Real America and I am vilified! Alack and alas, poor me.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2017 • 4:24:11pm

LOLOLOLOL *catches breath* LOLOLOLOL

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meteor  Dec 27, 2017 • 4:24:54pm

re: #42 Backwoods_Sleuth

Was that last sentence supposed to be in English?

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Jay C  Dec 27, 2017 • 4:26:00pm

re: #43 meteor

Was that last sentence supposed to be in English?

Or “Wingnut” (a related, if debased, dialect).

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ObserverArt  Dec 27, 2017 • 4:26:33pm

re: #42 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLOLOLOL *catches breath* LOLOLOLOL

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I don’t watch Hannity because he already exposes too much.

Most of the time it’s his ass.

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meteor  Dec 27, 2017 • 4:26:42pm

re: #44 Jay C

Ah, thanks

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austin_blue  Dec 27, 2017 • 4:27:41pm

re: #42 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLOLOLOL *catches breath* LOLOLOLOL

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“cling to God Faith Bibles religion”?

WTF does that mean, Hannity? Can’t get your high school education degree around the Constitution and the the Bill of Rights?

What a maroon.

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teleskiguy  Dec 27, 2017 • 4:28:13pm
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scottslemmons  Dec 27, 2017 • 4:28:44pm

re: #47 austin_blue

“cling to God Faith Bibles religion”?

WTF does that mean, Hannity? Can’t get your high school education degree around the Constitution and the the Bill of Rights?

What a maroon.

Why’s he leaving guns out? The original quote mentioned guns. WHY DO YOU HATE OUR GUN-TOTING JESUS, HANNITY?!?

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Targetpractice  Dec 27, 2017 • 4:30:18pm

re: #34 Backwoods_Sleuth

boo*fucking*hoo
(and the responses to the tweet are just YIKES)

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Lazy journalists getting angry that their readers don’t appreciate how hard it is to rewrite the same article a few hundred times over the course of a year.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2017 • 4:33:18pm

CULLMAN, Ala. (WIAT) - Family and friends of 22-year-old Logan Trammell are gathering to remember the young musician after an accidental shooting took his life on Christmas Eve.

Trammell’s family says he was driving away from his parents’ home around 11:30 p.m. on Sunday in one of his father’s vehicles when it happened.

His father was unaware that his son was borrowing his truck. Fearing the vehicle was being stolen, the family says he yelled out and fired a warning shot in the air in an attempt to get the driver’s attention. They say he then shot once at the tailgate to stop whoever was taking the truck.

Once the truck stopped, they say his father realized he had accidentally shot his own son.

“It was just a horrific accident. A horrific accident. My brother thought someone was stealing his truck, never realized it was Logan because he didn’t live down here all the time, he lived with my mom and dad,” Trammell’s aunt Tammy Jacobs said. “And he was supposed to be in the bed.”

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 27, 2017 • 4:35:24pm

re: #22 Backwoods_Sleuth

Blue lives matter! Unless it’s brown people under that blue.

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Romantic Heretic  Dec 27, 2017 • 4:36:13pm

re: #21 Targetpractice

Or as Trump’s base calls it, “a small price to pay.”

By which they mean, “It’s not us paying the price so we’re cool with it.”

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Decatur Deb  Dec 27, 2017 • 4:36:49pm

re: #51 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Cornpone Phaedra.

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 27, 2017 • 4:37:03pm

Max Boot? Really? Kinda hard to believe but hey, I’ll take him at his word for now. Great stuff to show some old conservative family and friends. It’s fascinating that racial issues is what really got to him. I’d like to think that’s innate humanity responding to real world circumstances. It’s harder to ignore the pleas of the less powerful these days I suspect.

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Targetpractice  Dec 27, 2017 • 4:37:21pm

re: #51 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So the father shot with the intent to wound/kill, but it was an “accident” because…oh right, he’s a dumb hick who probably is drinking buddies with the local sheriff.

FFS

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Stanley Sea  Dec 27, 2017 • 4:38:40pm

Finished Mindhunter.

I’m so sad it’s over.

What next??

I’m reading about La Casa de Papel

???

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Romantic Heretic  Dec 27, 2017 • 4:39:26pm

re: #31 Backwoods_Sleuth

At this point it can safely be said that any claim by Trump is exactly the opposite from reality.

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makeitstop  Dec 27, 2017 • 4:40:19pm

Hoarse may be right here…

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meteor  Dec 27, 2017 • 4:40:31pm

re: #51 Backwoods_Sleuth

Holy shit, that is awful.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 27, 2017 • 4:40:37pm

re: #56 Targetpractice

So the father shot with the intent to wound/kill, but it was an “accident” because…oh right, he’s a dumb hick who probably is drinking buddies with the local sheriff.

FFS

Cullman is the MAGA heartland, 87.8% Trump voters. (Strangely, it’s one of the few dry counties in the state—probably killing each other fast enough without the booze.)

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Jebediah, RBG  Dec 27, 2017 • 4:40:59pm

re: #56 Targetpractice

So the father shot with the intent to wound/kill, but it was an “accident” because…oh right, he’s a dumb hick who probably is drinking buddies with the local sheriff.

FFS

Exactly. Absolutely nothing accidental about it. Idiotic and deliberate.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 27, 2017 • 4:41:23pm

re: #42 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 27, 2017 • 4:41:26pm

re: #57 Stanley Sea

I’m almost through Narcos. Yikes.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 27, 2017 • 4:41:47pm

What kind of fucked up shit do the Russians have on Lumpy?

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Romantic Heretic  Dec 27, 2017 • 4:41:51pm

re: #42 Backwoods_Sleuth

God Faith Bibles religion

(sings)
One of these thing is not like the others,
One of these things just doesn’t belong.

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Targetpractice  Dec 27, 2017 • 4:44:21pm

re: #65 The Vicious Babushka

What kind of fucked up shit do the Russians have on Lumpy?

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Meanwhile, the Clinton campaign never mentioned the dossier, nor did any of their allies, which sort of voids the whole plan to use it to “rig” the election.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2017 • 4:45:14pm

re: #61 Decatur Deb

Cullman is the MAGA heartland, 87% Trump voters. (Strangely, it’s one of the few dry counties in the state—probably killing each other fast enough without the booze.)

I live in a dry county in Appalachia.
Doesn’t have any effect on the extreme number of drunks in these parts.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 27, 2017 • 4:47:43pm

re: #68 Backwoods_Sleuth

I live in a dry county in Appalachia.
Doesn’t have any effect on the extreme number of drunks in these parts.

We lack your artisanal traditions.

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meteor  Dec 27, 2017 • 4:48:03pm

re: #68 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yeah, they just go to the nearest place that sells it.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 27, 2017 • 4:48:39pm

re: #64 Unshaken Defiance

I’m almost through Narcos. Yikes.

Yeah, I’m not into yikes right now.

I gave up on Stranger Things 2nd season.

Kinda dumb.

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Romantic Heretic  Dec 27, 2017 • 4:48:53pm

re: #51 Backwoods_Sleuth

It was just a horrific accident. A horrific accident.

There are no accidents with firearms!

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Stanley Sea  Dec 27, 2017 • 4:49:28pm

re: #67 Targetpractice

Meanwhile, the Clinton campaign never mentioned the dossier, nor did any of their allies, which sort of voids the whole plan to use it to “rig” the election.

The dossier freaks them the fuck out.

Why would they keep bringing it up? Their yahoos do not remember it.

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ObserverArt  Dec 27, 2017 • 4:49:46pm

re: #62 Jebediah, RBG

Exactly. Absolutely nothing accidental about it. Idiotic and deliberate.

This is what the NRA gets you. Protect your property with a gun.

He shot his son. What if he didn’t shoot the kid, but instead missed and the bullet hit someone in their house or another car coming down the road?

It’s a fucking truck. Call the police and report it has just been stolen. Stop playing NRA good guy with a gun.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2017 • 4:49:58pm

re: #69 Decatur Deb

We lack your artisanal traditions.

we know the proper uses for copper…

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 27, 2017 • 4:51:35pm
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Targetpractice  Dec 27, 2017 • 4:53:13pm

re: #68 Backwoods_Sleuth

I live in a dry county in Appalachia.
Doesn’t have any effect on the extreme number of drunks in these parts.

My mother comes from a county in KY that only recently (in last 5 years) went wet. Yet they magically always had alcohol around whenever there was a party, picnic, or just a random get together. It was pretty much an open secret that so long as you weren’t causing trouble or trucking in beer by the ton, the county mounties would look the other way.

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ObserverArt  Dec 27, 2017 • 4:53:54pm

re: #68 Backwoods_Sleuth

I live in a dry county in Appalachia.
Doesn’t have any effect on the extreme number of drunks in these parts.

Makes ‘em go out and drive to some place they can drink and then they drive home drunk. Not good.

If they could get to a local they can at least maybe get someone to take them home. Or walk…or at least not have to drive so far, understanding they are going to drive no matter what, so cut the distance.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 27, 2017 • 4:55:10pm

re: #33 austin_blue

It’s the old lawyer joke isn’t it?

“How can you tell when Trump’s lying?

His lips are moving.”

This is undoubtedly true, even when he’s lying in a Tweet, because I’d be willing to bet he mouths the words he’s typing.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 27, 2017 • 4:56:30pm

I absolutely agree with this. I’m tired of the attack on Democrats as if only Republicans are trustworthy. I think we mostly here have a problem with the latter premise.

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Targetpractice  Dec 27, 2017 • 4:57:02pm

re: #73 Stanley Sea

The dossier freaks them the fuck out.

Why would they keep bringing it up? Their yahoos do not remember it.

They keep harping on the dossier because they figure it’s the lynchpin of the whole mess, or at least that’s how they’ve spun it. Their belief is that the FISA warrants that implicated Flynn sprung from the dossier, so if they can discredit it then the warrants will be similarly discredited and anything obtained through them ruled inadmissible.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 27, 2017 • 4:57:48pm

re: #77 Targetpractice

My mother comes from a county in KY that only recently (in last 5 years) went wet. Yet they magically always had alcohol around whenever there was a party, picnic, or just a random get together. It was pretty much an open secret that so long as you weren’t causing trouble or trucking in beer by the ton, the county mounties would look the other way.

I almost got a job at Murray State. The faculty there told me about the regular runs to Paducah by both faculty and students.

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Interesting Times  Dec 27, 2017 • 4:58:45pm

re: #50 Targetpractice

Lazy journalists getting angry that their readers don’t appreciate how hard it is to rewrite the same article a few hundred times over the course of a year.

The very first round of these articles (I forget exactly which one) did contain one useful insight - an Obama-to-Trump voter from a rust belt state who said he liked Obama until he made the remark about how “if he had a son, he would look like Trayvon Martin.”

So…yeah. That kind of thing completely negates the durr hurr they went for Obama so how can they be racist?! squawking point. Racism isn’t binary, it’s a smooth continuum, and there was always a segment of original Obama voters who were okay with him as long as he didn’t, in their view, act too blackity-blackity-black.

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teleskiguy  Dec 27, 2017 • 5:00:12pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Dec 27, 2017 • 5:01:27pm

re: #51 Backwoods_Sleuth

I commented under the article.

How is this accidental? It’s not OK to murder someone for stealing your truck, This was a psycho with a gun trying to kill someone, and he succeeded.

What happened to collecting on the insurance when your vehicle is stolen?

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teleskiguy  Dec 27, 2017 • 5:01:43pm
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BeachDem  Dec 27, 2017 • 5:04:35pm

re: #51 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Gah—I hate when they call this shit “accidental.”

That wasn’t an accidental shooting—he shot purposefully—he just hit the wrong target. They only use the words accident and accidentally 4 times in that short article.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 27, 2017 • 5:04:56pm

All he’s done is create chaos.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 27, 2017 • 5:05:30pm

re: #78 ObserverArt

Makes ‘em go out and drive to some place they can drink and then they drive home drunk. Not good.

If they could get to a local they can at least maybe get someone to take them home. Or walk…or at least not have to drive so far, understanding they are going to drive no matter what, so cut the distance.

My friend’s 14 yr old daughter was killed in the back seat of a car making a run to Lebanon Junction.

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ObserverArt  Dec 27, 2017 • 5:12:12pm

re: #89 Decatur Deb

My friend’s 14 yr old daughter was killed in the back seat of a car making a run to Lebanon Junction.

Back seat, that’s sad. Was she not buckled in or was it that bad a crash?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2017 • 5:14:25pm

re: #89 Decatur Deb

My friend’s 14 yr old daughter was killed in the back seat of a car making a run to Lebanon Junction.

It was reported here a couple of years ago that on a typical Saturday night, after midnight, one out of every four vehicles on our local highway was operated by a legally drunk driver.

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 27, 2017 • 5:14:29pm

re: #88 Stanley Sea

That and very bad vibes. Make America Great Again my foot.

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Interesting Times  Dec 27, 2017 • 5:19:11pm

The article is exactly the sort of trumpchump apologia one would expect from the MSM, but it’s worth reading if only to appreciate this righteous rant (and the comments to the FB post, also worth reading for once):

Facebook Post

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 27, 2017 • 5:20:40pm

That’s a big damn puppy

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Targetpractice  Dec 27, 2017 • 5:36:19pm

re: #93 Interesting Times

The article is exactly the sort of trumpchump apologia one would expect from the MSM, but it’s worth reading if only to appreciate this righteous rant (and the comments to the FB post, also worth reading for once):

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‘Frequently coming across the “swipe left if you voted for Trump” bio, Mike ignores the demand. “I still swipe right. I would like them to know who I am first before I openly tell them I voted for this person. They know nothing about me. I’m a very reasonable guy. I’m a nice person, open-minded.”’

And then you’ll admit you voted for Trump and they’ll know exactly who you are: A lying fuck who is totally unable to take responsibility for his actions.

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meteor  Dec 27, 2017 • 5:36:40pm

All the MSNBC people are being substituted for, this week, ‘cause they probably took vacation and all. The universe feels a little weird.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 27, 2017 • 5:37:18pm

re: #90 ObserverArt

Back seat, that’s sad. Was she not buckled in or was it that bad a crash?

It burned—two kids lived, two died.

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nines09  Dec 27, 2017 • 5:37:24pm

re: #68 Backwoods_Sleuth

I live in a dry county in Appalachia.
Doesn’t have any effect on the extreme number of drunks in these parts.

Check out Ocean City New Jersey. The drunkest dry town in New Jersey. No service, no BYOB, no stores. And packed every summer. Somers Point is busy, busy, busy…

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VegasGolfer  Dec 27, 2017 • 5:39:07pm

We all know that this government isnt gonna take trump down right? There needs to be an independent counsel or a 9/11 type counsel to tie all the trump family, kushner, russia etc crimes together. Mueller aint gonna do it, he’s gonna charge many individuals with crimes, and republicans are gonna cry they all aren’t related. We already know that the republicans arent gonna do anything to hold trump accountable. And if the Republicans are the minority, they still know how to thawrt the majority. Its pretty sad that this country wasn’t taken down by an actual war, but a war on information and the power of the internet.
But hey, lets keep posting cat pictures and internet memes. We’ll be fine.
Please prove me wrong.

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mmmirele  Dec 27, 2017 • 5:39:11pm

re: #39 Charles Johnson

The egos on some of these journalists. How dare their plebeian readers CRITICIZE the omniscient ones?

Thirty-five years ago I failed the last class in the journalism program at UT-Austin. In hindsight, I’m glad I did, if only because I don’t have to explain to someone that B.J. stands for Bachelor of Journalism (really, that was the degree I was supposed to get) and not Blow Job.

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 27, 2017 • 5:39:55pm
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ObserverArt  Dec 27, 2017 • 5:40:38pm

re: #97 Decatur Deb

It burned—two kids lived, two died.

Damn. I feel for your friend and the other family. No matter how long ago that was, it has to haunt and hurt forever.

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meteor  Dec 27, 2017 • 5:41:27pm

re: #101 FormerDirtDart

President Asshole is such a liar. MSNBC just busted his ass for the same statement a second ago. Go Mr. Hayes!

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makeitstop  Dec 27, 2017 • 5:41:45pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2017 • 5:42:41pm

re: #99 VegasGolfer

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meteor  Dec 27, 2017 • 5:43:53pm

I feel like posting this every time I hear about President Asshole on the teebee.

The Psychedelic Furs - President Gas (Audio)

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ObserverArt  Dec 27, 2017 • 5:44:19pm

re: #99 VegasGolfer

We all know that this government isnt gonna take trump down right? There needs to be an independent counsel or a 9/11 type counsel to tie all the trump family, kushner, russia etc crimes together. Mueller aint gonna do it, he’s gonna charge many individuals with crimes, and republicans are gonna cry they all aren’t related. We already know that the republicans arent gonna do anything to hold trump accountable. And if the Republicans are the minority, they still know how to thawrt the majority. Its pretty sad that this country wasn’t taken down by an actual war, but a war on information and the power of the internet.
But hey, lets keep posting cat pictures and internet memes. We’ll be fine.
Please prove me wrong.

I don’t know…and you don’t either.

Let Mueller do his thing and let this play out. Freaking out isn’t helping a damn thing and it plays into what the Republicans want…doubt about the process, the evidence, who’s doing what etc.

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Interesting Times  Dec 27, 2017 • 5:47:05pm

Now this is the sort of person I feel sympathy for and would like the MSM to profile:

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teleskiguy  Dec 27, 2017 • 5:48:08pm

Fuckface Von Clownstick loves him some asbestos.

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meteor  Dec 27, 2017 • 5:50:15pm

re: #109 teleskiguy

‘Cause he likes it when broke people die from cancer.

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Citizen K  Dec 27, 2017 • 5:50:25pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2017 • 5:52:50pm

re: #105 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

BTW, here’s how that ragged little kitten looks now:

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ObserverArt  Dec 27, 2017 • 5:55:02pm

re: #112 Backwoods_Sleuth

BTW, here’s how that ragged little kitten looks now:

[Embedded content]

Nice slender kitteh, all growed up.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 27, 2017 • 5:55:38pm
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nines09  Dec 27, 2017 • 5:55:45pm

re: #112 Backwoods_Sleuth

Good work.

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Targetpractice  Dec 27, 2017 • 5:56:04pm

re: #111 Citizen K

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With Trump’s poll numbers auguring into the ground and generic ballots heavily favoring the DNC next year, perhaps the navel-gazers in the press might stop printing “Trump voters still love him!” pieces and ask where the ones who no longer do have gone, or even running pieces on people who voted against Trump and asking them what it would take from him/the GOP to get their votes.

Oh wait, that would actually mean confronting opposition to their constant “Trump can do no wrong” drumbeat.

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jaunte  Dec 27, 2017 • 6:00:56pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2017 • 6:01:08pm

re: #113 ObserverArt

re: #115 nines09

that happens to be the cat that broke my arm…

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Interesting Times  Dec 27, 2017 • 6:08:45pm

re: #117 jaunte

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2017 • 6:10:52pm

the responses to the tweet… :D

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 27, 2017 • 6:11:21pm
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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Dec 27, 2017 • 6:12:09pm

re: #118 Backwoods_Sleuth

that happens to be the cat that broke my arm…

That’s gratitude for you.

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BeachDem  Dec 27, 2017 • 6:13:26pm

re: #114 Stanley Sea

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And further north in Alabama, where the father shot multiple times at his truck and killed his kid—oh, that has already been ruled a tragic accident.

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ObserverArt  Dec 27, 2017 • 6:14:25pm

re: #118 Backwoods_Sleuth

that happens to be the cat that broke my arm…

Crossed its path did you?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 27, 2017 • 6:15:27pm

re: #124 ObserverArt

Crossed its path did you?

yep

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Targetpractice  Dec 27, 2017 • 6:18:16pm

re: #120 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

the responses to the tweet… :D

“Help”? Help with what, moving the damned thing?

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Charles Johnson  Dec 27, 2017 • 6:18:50pm
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plansbandc  Dec 27, 2017 • 6:22:49pm

Look at this cool little badass. <3

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TedStriker  Dec 27, 2017 • 6:23:36pm

re: #128 plansbandc

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Look at this cool little badass. <3

That’s totes adorbs.

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The Major  Dec 27, 2017 • 6:23:40pm

re: #42 Backwoods_Sleuth

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meteor  Dec 27, 2017 • 6:23:46pm

re: #128 plansbandc

Squee!

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meteor  Dec 27, 2017 • 6:25:08pm

re: #129 TedStriker

Rockin’ the hat and sweater

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Jay C  Dec 27, 2017 • 6:25:36pm

re: #128 plansbandc

[Embedded content]

Look at this cool little badass. <3

It’s the paws.
Always the paws…….

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 27, 2017 • 6:28:12pm

re: #128 plansbandc

Look at this cool little badass. <3

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plansbandc  Dec 27, 2017 • 6:29:04pm

re: #134 FormerDirtDart

LMAO!

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Ace-o-aces  Dec 27, 2017 • 6:30:35pm
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FormerDirtDart  Dec 27, 2017 • 6:32:16pm

re: #135 plansbandc

LMAO!

Really, really could have used the caffeine

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The Major  Dec 27, 2017 • 6:34:43pm

re: #127 Charles Johnson

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Jebediah, RBG  Dec 27, 2017 • 7:12:35pm

re: #112 Backwoods_Sleuth

BTW, here’s how that ragged little kitten looks now:

[Embedded content]

wow!

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fern01  Dec 27, 2017 • 9:05:20pm

re: #114 Stanley Sea

Read the link - the police said they thought he had a gun - why are white people allowed to have a gun but black folks are beaten or killed and the excuse is always “we thought he had a gun”.

2nd amendment only applies to white folk?

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dangerman  Dec 28, 2017 • 9:56:55am

re: #51 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

I know this is late

NOT
A
FUCKING
ACCIDENT

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dangerman  Dec 28, 2017 • 9:59:59am

re: #59 makeitstop

Hoarse may be right here…
I think it’s time to consider that some of Trump’s lies might actually be the result of his advisers lying to him to placate him.

There’s a decent chance the people around him are blowing smoke up his a** because he is a petulant, unmanageable baby without constant stroking
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oh so he doesn’t know and he is an idiot

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 28, 2017 • 10:00:05am

re: #140 fern01

Read the link - the police said they thought he had a gun - why are white people allowed to have a gun but black folks are beaten or killed and the excuse is always “we thought he had a gun”.

2nd amendment only applies to white folk?

Well, duh. Nice historical example is how quickly the CA Legislature moved to change the Open Carry laws once the Black Panthers made use of them.

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John Hughes  Dec 30, 2017 • 2:22:32am

This bit is annoying:

The iPhone may well have done more to expose racism in modern-day America than the NAACP.

Because idiots like you didn’t believe the NAACP when they told you, Max.

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John Hughes  Dec 30, 2017 • 2:25:59am

Aargh, here he goes again:

I had certainly gotten some hints from my female friends of the kind of harassment they have endured, but I never had any idea it was this bad or this common — or this tolerated.

Max, why do you think you only got “hints”? Could it be because you immediately dismissed them?


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