Trump Kicks Off the New Year by Attacking Iran and Pakistan From His Golf Course

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Our so-called president has been golfing for seven straight days now (after viciously attacking President Obama over and over for playing golf, of course, and swearing that he wouldn’t have any time for it himself if he were elected).

But that hasn’t kept him from his normal ritual of spewing randomly capitalized nonsense on Twitter. He spent New Year’s Eve and New Year’s Day boasting and conducting his foreign policy by attacking Iran and Pakistan (and the US presidents who came before him) with a series of deranged tweets.

It should be pointed out that even though the US relationship with Pakistan is thorny and not without problems, we have an important arrangement with them to facilitate the Afghanistan military effort. Whatever you think about that effort, for Trump to rant like this on Twitter is amazingly, horrifyingly reckless and endangers our own troops.

But then, Trump has never shown any inclination to care about things like that, apart from his periodic jingoistic over-the-top insincere praise for the military.

UPDATE at 1/1/18 12:24:33 pm by Charles Johnson

The repercussions from this latest ill-considered outburst are already happening; Pakistan’s foreign minister responded this morning (on Twitter as well):

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300 comments
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electrotek  Jan 1, 2018 • 12:15:43pm

To Trump: Tear down that travel ban.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 1, 2018 • 12:17:10pm

Trump probably couldn’t even find Pakistan on a map.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 1, 2018 • 12:18:29pm

re: #2 Eclectic Cyborg

Trump doesn’t know what a map is, let alone know how to locate a country on one.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 1, 2018 • 12:19:02pm

re: #2 Eclectic Cyborg

Trump probably couldn’t even find Pakistan on a map.

I don’t think he can find it in a dictionary.

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nines09  Jan 1, 2018 • 12:19:36pm

Happy Fucking New Year. That didn’t take long.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 1, 2018 • 12:25:03pm

The repercussions from this latest ill-considered outburst are already happening; Pakistan’s foreign minister responded this morning (on Twitter as well):

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electrotek  Jan 1, 2018 • 12:28:15pm

re: #6 Charles Johnson

The repercussions from this latest ill-considered outburst are already happening; Pakistan’s foreign minister responded this morning (on Twitter as well):

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I’m glad Imran Khan isn’t PM or we would have been seeing more Tweet wars erupt

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jan 1, 2018 • 12:29:25pm

i think donald has not insulted enough countries, entire states, popular sports organizations, large powerful companies, ordinary people who can vote, and members of his own party who might otherwise have been allies, yet

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 1, 2018 • 12:32:13pm
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Decatur Deb  Jan 1, 2018 • 12:36:35pm

If anyone digs a bit into the open literature, they will find that the US has been deeply involved in the ‘safeguarding’ of Pakistan’s nuclear stockpiles. The Indians and mainstream Pakistanis rather like that.

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unproven innocence  Jan 1, 2018 • 12:36:59pm

In the slightly fictionalized Tom Hanks movie Bridge of Spies, about the negotiated release of American U2 pilot Gary Powers from captivity in the Soviet Union, one thing I noticed in the story was that some of those overflights took off from Pakistan.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 1, 2018 • 12:37:02pm

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stpaulbear  Jan 1, 2018 • 12:37:23pm

Was the plane trying to land at the Palm Beach Airport?

You can’t fly in or out of Palm Beach County Park Airport in Lantana. Because it’s within 10 nautical miles of Mar-A-Lago, as the Palm Beach Post reports, the Secret Service bars flights at the airport while Trump is in town. This isn’t a big deal for commercial passengers, but several businesses operate out of the airport. According to The Post report, the airport’s operator says it has lost $500,000 in business and tenants since last year and expects more this year.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 1, 2018 • 12:39:19pm

re: #8 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

Okay, going from memory here.

Things and people Trump has insulted in the past year:

Jews
Muslims
Atheists
Mexicans
Puerto Ricans
Black people
Football players
Khan Family
LaDavid Johnson
LGBTQ people
Liberals
Barack Obama
Hillary Clinton
Mika Brezinski
Lavar Ball
Gold Star Families
Doug Jones
Heather Heyer
Robert Mueller
The FBI
The CIA
The UN
CNN/NBC/ABC/New York Times
Britain
Australia
Japan
Canada
Iran
Pakistan
China
South Korea

Things and people Trump hasn’t insulted:

White, Christian men
Vladimir Putin
Anyone and anything named Trump.
Fox News

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 1, 2018 • 12:43:04pm

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ObserverArt  Jan 1, 2018 • 12:44:08pm

re: #6 Charles Johnson

The repercussions from this latest ill-considered outburst are already happening; Pakistan’s foreign minister responded this morning (on Twitter as well):

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I hope the Pakistan foreign minister is aware there is a blurring of facts and fiction with The Orange Glaze. He’s not much for facts, but loves to pump out the fiction.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jan 1, 2018 • 12:44:47pm

re: #14 Eclectic Cyborg

Okay, going from memory here.

Things and people Trump has insulted in the past year:

Jews
Muslims
Atheists
Mexicans
Puerto Ricans
Black people
Football players
Khan Family
LaDavid Johnson
LGBTQ people
Liberals
Barack Obama
Hillary Clinton
Mika Brezinski
Lavar Ball
Gold Star Families
Doug Jones
Heather Heyer
Robert Mueller
The FBI
The CIA
The UN
CNN/NBC/ABC/New York Times
Britain
Australia
Japan
Canada
Iran
Pakistan
China
South Korea

Things and people Trump hasn’t insulted:

White, Christian men
Vladimir Putin
Anyone and anything named Trump.

mcconnell
sessions
mccain
flake
ryan

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 1, 2018 • 12:46:25pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

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President Tweetler is well on his way to surpassing Orson Welles in the waistline category!

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jan 1, 2018 • 12:46:40pm

re: #15 Eclectic Cyborg

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is that an unmodified image??

the gent in the photograph looks to be a might on the uh portly side

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 1, 2018 • 12:48:17pm

re: #18 Joe Bacon 🌹

More like Henry VIII. Especially in the spouse department.

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allegro  Jan 1, 2018 • 12:48:33pm

re: #19 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

is that an unmodified image??

the gent in the photograph looks to be a might on the uh portly side

They need to take his golf cart away so he walks the course. But then, he wouldn’t pay golf anymore no doubt.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 1, 2018 • 12:48:49pm

re: #19 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

is that an unmodified image??

the gent in the photograph looks to be a might on the uh portly side

Both look ‘enhanced’. Also always have to keep open to the possibility of body armor. Lot of sociopaths with cutlery in that crowd.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 1, 2018 • 12:48:56pm

re: #20 PhillyPretzel

More like Henry VIII. Especially in the spouse department.

I was thinking William Howard Taft, and wondering how long before the White House had to get a custom tub installed.

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electrotek  Jan 1, 2018 • 12:49:12pm

Breitbart columnist is calling Lorde an “anti-Semite” now.

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stpaulbear  Jan 1, 2018 • 12:49:25pm

re: #19 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

is that an unmodified image??

the gent in the photograph looks to be a might on the uh portly side

I bet he would really hate if that photo were to go viral on Twitter…

re: #14 Eclectic Cyborg

France and Germany.

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ObserverArt  Jan 1, 2018 • 12:49:41pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

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What a porker.

And he actually had the gut(s) to complain about one of his sexual harassment accusers of not being a ten and the Mexican beauty pageant winner was fat.

The man is gross. And that is not because of his physical largess. It’s his character, or lack of it.

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BigPapa  Jan 1, 2018 • 12:50:13pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

Blink twice if you and Baron want to escape.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 1, 2018 • 12:50:32pm

re: #20 PhillyPretzel

More like Henry VIII. Especially in the spouse department.

He didn’t behead Ivanka or Marla…I got a feeling both will outlive him!

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Charles Johnson  Jan 1, 2018 • 12:51:21pm

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 1, 2018 • 12:51:51pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

“a thin mint” Monty Python

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ObserverArt  Jan 1, 2018 • 12:54:35pm

re: #22 Decatur Deb

Both look ‘enhanced’. Also always have to keep open to the possibility of body armor. Lot of sociopaths with cutlery in that crowd.

I think that is ALL The Orange Pumpkin in that suit. Look at his images on the golf course. He’s gotten bigger. I think the photographer got him when he wasn’t sucking it in. It’s why he sits so forward in his seat…he’s trying to keep that tummy from spilling all over.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 1, 2018 • 12:56:54pm

re: #31 ObserverArt

I think that is ALL The Orange Pumpkin in that suit. Look at his images on the golf course. He’s gotten bigger. I think the photographer got him when he wasn’t sucking it in. It’s why he sits so forward in his seat…he’s trying to keep that tummy from spilling all over.

Road company of Turandot.
“Vincero, vincero,… you’ll be sick of the vincing”

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stpaulbear  Jan 1, 2018 • 12:58:50pm

re: #29 Charles Johnson

I don’t feel sorry for her at all. He was a well-known pig before she started in with him.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jan 1, 2018 • 12:58:57pm

re: #31 ObserverArt

I think that is ALL The Orange Pumpkin in that suit. Look at his images on the golf course. He’s gotten bigger. I think the photographer got him when he wasn’t sucking it in. It’s why he sits so forward in his seat…he’s trying to keep that tummy from spilling all over.

There are about a million images from that party stinking up the web — and if that one’s “enhanced,” it’s not by much. (I can’t speak to the body armor hypothesis.)

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ObserverArt  Jan 1, 2018 • 12:59:04pm

re: #32 Decatur Deb

Road company of Turandot. “Vincero, vincero, you’ll be sick of the vincing”

The end of the show is when the Fat President sings.

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 1, 2018 • 1:00:17pm

re: #24 electrotek

They’d know. /

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jan 1, 2018 • 1:00:55pm

re: #33 stpaulbear

I don’t feel sorry for her at all. He was a well-known pig before she started in with him.

As DT memorably said, she knew what she was signing up for.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Jan 1, 2018 • 1:02:47pm

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bill d. (b.d.)  Jan 1, 2018 • 1:03:03pm

re: #38 bill d. (b.d.)

If this really happens, we’ll see the pee tape before we see the results.

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makeitstop  Jan 1, 2018 • 1:06:14pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

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Christ, he looks like he’s gained quite a bit of weight in his first year. I guess that what happens when you get all the Mickey D’s and KFC you want and no one tells you no.

I’m starting to doubt he’s even going to get out of his term alive. His habits are going to kill him.

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ajcharnc  Jan 1, 2018 • 1:06:25pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

Is it just me or does the Little Orange Hands look absolutely ‘huuge” in this picture? His first annual physical is going to be labeled top secret.

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stpaulbear  Jan 1, 2018 • 1:06:43pm

re: #37 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

As DT memorably said, she knew what she was signing up for.

She probably signed up to be a rich widow. She’s going to find that Trump’s kids are going to sue the hell out of her to keep everything. It’ll be gloriously ugly.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Jan 1, 2018 • 1:07:29pm

re: #40 makeitstop

Christ, he looks like he’s gained quite a bit of weight in his first year. I guess that what happens when you get all the Mickey D’s and KFC you want and no one tells you no.

I’m starting to doubt he’s even going to get out of his term alive. His habits are going to kill him.

Pence is probably bringing him a jar of mayo every time he visits him

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 1, 2018 • 1:07:36pm

re: #39 bill d. (b.d.)

Hopefully it will be a real physical. Not a passing in the hall like that other one who said he is the healthiest President we ever had.

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gocart mozart  Jan 1, 2018 • 1:08:05pm
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electrotek  Jan 1, 2018 • 1:08:06pm

re: #40 makeitstop

Christ, he looks like he’s gained quite a bit of weight in his first year. I guess that what happens when you get all the Mickey D’s and KFC you want and no one tells you no.

I’m starting to doubt he’s even going to get out of his term alive. His habits are going to kill him.

Whereas other Presidents have kept their weight in check with the amount of work that has kept them occupied.

Although for someone that golfs often, shouldn’t he be less of a porker by now?

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Charles Johnson  Jan 1, 2018 • 1:08:22pm
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bill d. (b.d.)  Jan 1, 2018 • 1:08:47pm

re: #42 stpaulbear

She probably signed up to be a rich widow. She’s going to find that Trump’s kids are going to sue the hell out of her to keep everything. It’ll be gloriously ugly.

She’ll get less than Anna Nicole Smith

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electrotek  Jan 1, 2018 • 1:10:14pm
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bill d. (b.d.)  Jan 1, 2018 • 1:10:55pm

re: #46 electrotek

Whereas other Presidents have kept their weight in check with the amount of work that has kept them occupied.

Although for someone that golfs often, shouldn’t he be less of a porker by now?

Golfing is good exercise if you don’t use a cart, not much exercise at all if you own the club and can disregard the rules about staying on the cart path.

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makeitstop  Jan 1, 2018 • 1:11:38pm

re: #37 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

As DT memorably said, she knew what she was signing up for.

Alternate theory - she got her marching orders and was obligated to do her job.

You can’t say no to Boss Vlad, it you know what I’m sayin’.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 1, 2018 • 1:11:42pm

re: #44 PhillyPretzel

Hopefully it will be a real physical. Not a passing in the hall like that other one who said he is the healthiest President we ever had.

Yeah that was funny. All I could think of even then when I heard that was, half court to 10 vs Obama.

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ObserverArt  Jan 1, 2018 • 1:12:00pm

re: #42 stpaulbear

She probably signed up to be a rich widow. She’s going to find that Trump’s kids are going to sue the hell out of her to keep everything. It’ll be gloriously ugly.

Hey…you just came up with another Trump Reality TV show.

Trumps in Court…You sue me, I sue you.

That would be a blockbuster. Get Mark Burnett on the phone and see if you can get a piece.

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ObserverArt  Jan 1, 2018 • 1:13:14pm

re: #45 gocart mozart

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You can tell by the cowlick in his hair he was gonna be a real wild child!

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gocart mozart  Jan 1, 2018 • 1:13:58pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 1, 2018 • 1:14:19pm

re: #46 electrotek

Whereas other Presidents have kept their weight in check with the amount of work that has kept them occupied.

Although for someone that golfs often, shouldn’t he be less of a porker by now?

Not when you cheat while riding a golf cart on the green.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 1, 2018 • 1:14:45pm
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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jan 1, 2018 • 1:14:52pm

re: #42 stpaulbear

She probably signed up to be a rich widow. She’s going to find that Trump’s kids are going to sue the hell out of her to keep everything. It’ll be gloriously ugly.

I’m sure there’s a prenup.

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ObserverArt  Jan 1, 2018 • 1:14:54pm

re: #51 makeitstop

Alternate theory - she got her marching orders and was obligated to do her job.

You can’t say no to Boss Vlad, it you know what I’m sayin’.

She and the recorders came with the loans.

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electrotek  Jan 1, 2018 • 1:15:47pm

re: #56 Backwoods_Sleuth

Not when you cheat while riding a golf cart on the green.

Duly noted.

On another note:

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stpaulbear  Jan 1, 2018 • 1:16:24pm

re: #53 ObserverArt

The Twitter version will be more fun.

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ObserverArt  Jan 1, 2018 • 1:16:41pm

re: #56 Backwoods_Sleuth

Not when you cheat while riding a golf cart on the green.

Yeah, you don’t want to have to walk 30 feet to leave the green.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Jan 1, 2018 • 1:17:55pm

re: #62 ObserverArt

Yeah, you don’t want to have to walk 30 feet to leave the green.

[trump] WALKING IS FOR LOSERS. [/trump]

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electrotek  Jan 1, 2018 • 1:17:55pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Jan 1, 2018 • 1:18:07pm

re: #46 electrotek

Although for someone that golfs often, shouldn’t he be less of a porker by now?

World is full of old dudes that have convinced themselves the twenty steps from the cart to the ball and back constitute “exercise.”

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ObserverArt  Jan 1, 2018 • 1:18:54pm

re: #63 bill d. (b.d.)

[trump] WALKING IS FOR LOSERS. [/trump]

Losers of fat.

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Mike Lamb  Jan 1, 2018 • 1:19:31pm

re: #39 bill d. (b.d.)

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We have a better chance of seeing his tax returns.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 1, 2018 • 1:19:39pm

re: #46 electrotek

Although for someone that golfs often, shouldn’t he be less of a porker by now?

Golfing is not remotely related to exercise.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 1, 2018 • 1:20:36pm

re: #55 gocart mozart

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heh…I thought shower curtains when I first saw that dress.

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electrotek  Jan 1, 2018 • 1:20:57pm

re: #68 Charles Johnson

Golfing is not remotely related to exercise.

Sadly you guys are right.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jan 1, 2018 • 1:21:15pm

Oh, for another triumph of optimism, the kindle one-volume edition of Lord of the Rings is on sale today for four dollars.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jan 1, 2018 • 1:21:45pm

re: #68 Charles Johnson

Golfing is not remotely related to exercise.

Unless you’re a caddy.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Jan 1, 2018 • 1:22:55pm

Reason Number #432 that Trump hates the NFL.

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makeitstop  Jan 1, 2018 • 1:24:18pm

re: #68 Charles Johnson

Golfing is not remotely related to exercise.

‘A perfectly good walk spoiled,’ yeah?

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jan 1, 2018 • 1:24:23pm

re: #70 electrotek

Sadly you guys are right.

If you walk eighteen holes, it’s walking with a bit of extra effort because of terrain, and maybe a bit more if you carry your own bag.

But most courses aren’t even encouraging that anymore, since that takes more time and they earn by people buying rounds and driving the course in less time.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Jan 1, 2018 • 1:25:45pm

re: #68 Charles Johnson

Golfing is not remotely related to exercise.

The guy who drove the truck that blocked CNN from filming Trump hack up the golf course got more exercise than Trump on the links.

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Skip Intro  Jan 1, 2018 • 1:26:07pm

re: #44 PhillyPretzel

Hopefully it will be a real physical. Not a passing in the hall like that other one who said he is the healthiest President we ever had.

It will be a real physical, but none of us will ever get the true results. The doc can’t release them so Trump will just lie his ass off, like always.

And that will be that, except for the glowing NY Times review marveling at what a magnificent physical specimen Trump is.

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Citizen K  Jan 1, 2018 • 1:28:02pm

re: #77 Skip Intro

It will be a real physical, but none of us will ever get the true results. The doc can’t release them so Trump will just lie his ass off, like always.

And that will be that, except for the glowing NY Times review marveling at what a magnificent physical specimen Trump is.

They will somehow proclaim Trump is healthier than that known fatass and layabout Obama…

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Skip Intro  Jan 1, 2018 • 1:28:34pm

re: #46 electrotek

Whereas other Presidents have kept their weight in check with the amount of work that has kept them occupied.

Although for someone that golfs often, shouldn’t he be less of a porker by now?

You don’t lose any weight riding in a golf cart. Trump even drives his onto the greens so he doesn’t have to walk from the approach. Plus I’m sure he’s stuffing his face with crap the whole time he’s on the course.

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VegasGolfer  Jan 1, 2018 • 1:29:25pm

re: #68 Charles Johnson

Golfing is not remotely related to exercise.

Wrong.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 1, 2018 • 1:30:13pm

re: #80 VegasGolfer

Wrong.

The way Trump does it, he’s not entirely wrong. The only thing he does is swing the club, he has people do everything else for him.

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Skip Intro  Jan 1, 2018 • 1:30:32pm

re: #42 stpaulbear

She probably signed up to be a rich widow. She’s going to find that Trump’s kids are going to sue the hell out of her to keep everything. It’ll be gloriously ugly.

She’s done pretty well for herself as an ex-escort.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 1, 2018 • 1:30:39pm

re: #68 Charles Johnson

Golfing is not remotely related to exercise.

indeed.
I get more exercise walking to the coffee pot several times a day…

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Charles Johnson  Jan 1, 2018 • 1:32:13pm

re: #80 VegasGolfer

Wrong.

Only if you walk the course. Which I seriously doubt Donald Trump does.

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gocart mozart  Jan 1, 2018 • 1:33:00pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 1, 2018 • 1:33:41pm
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VegasGolfer  Jan 1, 2018 • 1:34:02pm

re: #84 Charles Johnson

Only if you walk the course. Which I seriously doubt Donald Trump does.

Quantifying that in the original post would’ve been great.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Jan 1, 2018 • 1:34:52pm

re: #79 Skip Intro

You don’t lose any weight riding in a golf cart. Trump even drives his onto the greens so he doesn’t have to walk from the approach. Plus I’m sure he’s stuffing his face with crap the whole time he’s on the course.

As one might expect, the most energy was expended while walking with a bag (721 calories burned for nine holes). But walking with a push cart was not far behind (718). Walking with a caddie burned 621 calories for nine holes, and riding in a cart still burned 411 calories on average.

onpar.blogs.nytimes.com

caloriesperhour.com’s activity calculator divides sitting into several categories. For a 150-lb. person, sitting quietly burns 68 calories per hour, sitting while talking, spectating at a sports event or doing light work burns 102 calories per hour and sitting while doing moderate work burns 170 calories per hour.

livestrong.com

So Trump would burn 822 calories playing golf and if he just sat there and watched someone play golf he would burn 408 calories.

The difference is 100 calories an hour.

Not exercise at all.

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ObserverArt  Jan 1, 2018 • 1:37:04pm

re: #80 VegasGolfer

Wrong.

I think since Tiger (and maybe even a bit earlier) a lot of golfers work out to get and keep in shape and to improve their game. And then they can play a more physical game. But back years ago, there were many a portly golfer. The game has gotten more physical.

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Skip Intro  Jan 1, 2018 • 1:42:43pm

Wasn’t it at Trump’s first big summit meeting he needed a golf cart to ride in while everybody else walked?

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electrotek  Jan 1, 2018 • 1:43:57pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 1, 2018 • 1:45:46pm

apparently it is time for a cat meme…

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jan 1, 2018 • 1:46:18pm

Trump Aims To Complete Eradication Of Obama’s Legacy By Crashing The Economy And Bringing Osama Bin Laden Back To Life

also looking for ways to make general motors self deport

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Interesting Times  Jan 1, 2018 • 1:46:25pm

re: #90 Skip Intro

Wasn’t it at Trump’s first big summit meeting he needed a golf cart to ride in while everybody else walked?

Almost:

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Belafon  Jan 1, 2018 • 1:47:13pm

Trump believes that exercise drains his life battery.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jan 1, 2018 • 1:47:33pm

re: #89 ObserverArt

I think since Tiger (and maybe even a bit earlier) a lot of golfers work out to get and keep in shape and to improve their game. And then they can play a more physical game. But back years ago, there were many a portly golfer. The game has gotten more physical.

I suspect the task of hitting the ball under varying conditions means that stuff like balance, holding unusual body positions while conducting a swing are all effected by training your muscle groups, in particular the stabilizing muscles in the core. There’s also just the combination of force, coordination, and timing involved in a swing—especially a drive. I further suspect that for a pro, endurance is an advantage since they’re playing with greater frequency, with greater tension, et cetera.

So there’s a lot for pros and enthusiasts to work on that duffers wouldn’t worry about, because the margin of advantage has such bigger stakes for the former.

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Belafon  Jan 1, 2018 • 1:48:03pm

re: #86 The Vicious Babushka

I thought we did the surprise raid to keep the Pakistani government from notifying bin Laden that we were coming.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jan 1, 2018 • 1:50:06pm

re: #91 electrotek

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Because European government officials do this thing called thinking before they tweet.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 1, 2018 • 1:50:34pm

re: #97 Belafon

I thought we did the surprise raid to keep the Pakistani government from notifying bin Laden that we were coming.

There’s a whole “it’s complicated” with Pakistan, and the Bin Laden raid basically exemplified it. We got under-the-table intelligence that he was hiding out there, and the stealth raid was basically to help the Pakistani government save face by not having to give explicit approval to the attack. Trump, on the other hand, is apparently determined to piss them right the fuck off.

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electrotek  Jan 1, 2018 • 1:52:35pm

re: #99 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

There’s a whole “it’s complicated” with Pakistan, and the Bin Laden raid basically exemplified it. We got under-the-table intelligence that he was hiding out there, and the stealth raid was basically to help the Pakistani government save face by not having to give explicit approval to the attack. Trump, on the other hand, is apparently determined to piss them right the fuck off.

And will further convince Pakistanis to gravitate towards Russia and China even more.

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electrotek  Jan 1, 2018 • 1:53:47pm

re: #98 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

Because European government officials do this thing called thinking before they tweet.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Jan 1, 2018 • 1:55:34pm

re: #101 electrotek

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At least they were respectful enough to tweet in English!!

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Interesting Times  Jan 1, 2018 • 1:55:58pm

Happy New Candidate-to-donate-to:

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Amory Blaine  Jan 1, 2018 • 1:57:46pm

re: #29 Charles Johnson

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jan 1, 2018 • 2:00:04pm

re: #97 Belafon

I thought we did the surprise raid to keep the Pakistani government from notifying bin Laden that we were coming.

The Pakistani government is deeply internally divided, having some of the oligarchic features we’re so familiar with from Russia, but also with a military cadre and an intelligence cadre that are playing tug-of-war with power and resources. All these sectors contain people who are either sympathetic to Islamists (such as holdovers from the Zia days), or—and this is a calculation that USAians don’t get—under-the-table deal with Islamist groups because the realpolitik of the region is that the fanatics have money, power, foreign backing, and a popular base in continual supply, while primarily foreign anti-Islamists are not continuously present or exerting near the level of hard and soft power.

The ISI (intelligence service) in particular, is rife with intrigue and divided loyalty. Which is why someone both dimed bin Laden, but the op had to be kept under wraps w/r/t the larger Pakistani intel/military community.

(It really doesn’t help to for decades, Pakistan has been close to Saudi Arabia, and that, like elsewhere, the US anti-Communist scheme for the region was willing to back conservative dictatorship (Zia) over liberalism or Islamic socialism.)

At this point, dealing with the Pakistani government is pretty Game-of-Thrones, in that you can’t assume anyone’s a 100% loyal friend, or even that alliance in one context means a commitment to cooperation in others.

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Varek Raith  Jan 1, 2018 • 2:01:55pm

Update!

Dad is doing fine. Going in tomorrow to see if he needs a pacemaker. Infection gone. Heart fine. Still weak but recovering fast. One big issue (not for me) though. He’ll need occupational rehab. Boy, he sure ain’t gonna like that one bit! ;)

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electrotek  Jan 1, 2018 • 2:04:52pm
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VegasGolfer  Jan 1, 2018 • 2:05:39pm

re: #89 ObserverArt

Yup. And that’s the stereotype many people still have about golf, hanging around the grillroom, smoking cigars, drinking scotch and playing cards. Where now it is more about being in great shape, because thats where the elite golfers are these days.
It definitely has helped my game since I reached senior tour age.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 1, 2018 • 2:07:34pm

How hard will the Dotard’s staff work to keep him from seeing this story?

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Charles Johnson  Jan 1, 2018 • 2:09:05pm

re: #87 VegasGolfer

Quantifying that in the original post would’ve been great.

You’re right, I should have said, “The way Trump plays golf has no resemblance to real exercise.”

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 1, 2018 • 2:09:09pm

The Super Moon cometh

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Citizen K  Jan 1, 2018 • 2:10:30pm

re: #109 FormerDirtDart

How hard will the Dotard’s staff work to keep him from seeing this story?

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Probably not hard at all? You think it’d be an enduring story if Trump called Pope Francis ‘the literal Anti-Christ’ anywhere in this country? Sure, it’ll be a fucking international incident, but we’ve seen how little anyone in the administration actually cares about that.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 1, 2018 • 2:11:29pm

re: #109 FormerDirtDart

I do not know what they will do but I find Pope Francis’s message heart warming.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 1, 2018 • 2:14:11pm

Click for the rest

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lizardofid  Jan 1, 2018 • 2:18:54pm

re: #110 Charles Johnson

You’re right, I should have said, “The way Trump plays golf has no resemblance to real exercise.”

Which works out, since his presidency has no resemblance to a real presidency.

; )

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BlueSpotinAL  Jan 1, 2018 • 2:19:33pm

re: #67 Mike Lamb

We have a better chance of seeing his tax returns.

Which in turn is still more likely than Trump seeing his toes.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 1, 2018 • 2:22:07pm

re: #117 Charles Johnson

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I think she’d be rather relieved at that situation, to be perfectly frank.

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dangerman  Jan 1, 2018 • 2:22:53pm

re: #44 PhillyPretzel

Hopefully it will be a real physical. Not a passing in the hall like that other one who said he is the healthiest President we ever had.

cnn

Rear Adm Dr Ronny Johnson, physician to the president

The White House doctor’s medical readout is typically less colorful. It provides the President’s height, weight, body mass index (which indicates whether an individual is average, overweight or obese), resting heart rate and blood pressure.
Past exams have also included details about the commander in chief’s vision, thyroid, cardiac rhythms, gastrointestinal system, skin and neurological indicators like cerebellar function, motor functions and sensory systems.
It also detailed lab results like cholesterol and glucose levels, and lifestyle choices like exercise, diet and alcohol and tobacco use.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 1, 2018 • 2:24:05pm

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Stanley Sea  Jan 1, 2018 • 2:24:06pm

Watched Shameless.

Having second bowl of hoppin john.

Life is good.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 1, 2018 • 2:28:25pm

re: #58 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

I’m sure there’s a prenup.

And a NDA.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 1, 2018 • 2:31:02pm

re: #90 Skip Intro

Wasn’t it at Trump’s first big summit meeting he needed a golf cart to ride in while everybody else walked?

Yes.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 1, 2018 • 2:32:48pm

re: #110 Charles Johnson

You’re right, I should have said, “The way Trump plays golf has no resemblance to real exercise.”

Or real golf.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 1, 2018 • 2:39:52pm

FUCK.

I don’t wanna go back to work tomorrow.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 1, 2018 • 2:40:53pm
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dangerman  Jan 1, 2018 • 2:42:05pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

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You don’t think every world leader isnt going “can’t we have the last couple back?”

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gocart mozart  Jan 1, 2018 • 2:42:19pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 1, 2018 • 2:42:22pm

re: #125 The Vicious Babushka

FUCK.

I don’t wanna go back to work tomorrow.

I just said this exact same thing to Mrs. Fish.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 1, 2018 • 2:44:02pm

re: #129 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I just said this exact same thing to Mrs. Fish.

Even though it’s Monday - same

Spastic colon sunday

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Decatur Deb  Jan 1, 2018 • 2:44:33pm

re: #128 gocart mozart

Makes ‘ya wonder how serious he was about “Serve and Protect”.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 1, 2018 • 2:47:39pm

re: #131 Decatur Deb

Makes ‘ya wonder how serious he was about “Serve and Protect”.

When it comes to him it’s more like “Serve and Project”.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 1, 2018 • 2:47:42pm

re: #131 Decatur Deb

Makes ‘ya wonder how serious he was about “Serve and Protect”.

Sheriff Clarke is the embodiment of the “bad cops” that we’ve all seen over the past couple of years shooting at innocent, often unarmed, people: They said the words, but didn’t mean any of them. They got into police work to wield guns and absolute power over life and death.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 1, 2018 • 2:54:05pm

re: #128 gocart mozart

John Wayne was also a raving racist and white supremacist.

splinternews.com

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 1, 2018 • 2:54:36pm

I started out my new year with another 13.1 miles. My first back to back long(er) runs.

On the exercise front: depressingly, you only burn ~100 calories a mile run. Less, in fact.

It puts that candy bar or second drink into perspective when you get to think about how many miles the calories are to burn off.

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Skip Intro  Jan 1, 2018 • 2:54:42pm

re: #134 Charles Johnson

John Wayne was also a raving racist and white supremacist.

splinternews.com

Who didn’t serve in WWII because reasons.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 1, 2018 • 2:55:00pm

re: #110 Charles Johnson

You’re right, I should have said, “The way Trump plays golf has no resemblance to real exercise.”

because none of the rest of us understood what you meant….

O_o

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Belafon  Jan 1, 2018 • 2:58:51pm

re: #136 Skip Intro

Who didn’t serve in WWII because reasons.

The biggest reason being that the studio he worked for filed and had him deferred because his movies were seen as vital to the war effort, i.e. propaganda. And the government agreed.

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makeitstop  Jan 1, 2018 • 2:59:15pm

re: #128 gocart mozart

LYING LIB MEDIA and liberals, do I have you attention yet or do you want more?

Dunno about y’all, but I’m totally askeered of his posting of memes on the internet.

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This guy thinks he’s really scaring people with this lame shit? No wonder Trump likes him.

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meteor  Jan 1, 2018 • 3:00:44pm

Rangers beat the Sabres 3-2.

Manchester United beat Everton 2-0.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 1, 2018 • 3:03:07pm
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meteor  Jan 1, 2018 • 3:03:44pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 1, 2018 • 3:04:42pm

re: #135 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I started out my new year with another 13.1 miles. My first back to back long(er) runs.

On the exercise front: depressingly, you only burn ~100 calories a mile run. Less, in fact.

It puts that candy bar or second drink into perspective when you get to think about how many miles the calories are to burn off.

One disappointing thing about the bitter cold is that it’s no longer practical to walk to Pokemon events in town. I’ve been burning an awful lot of gas cruising around town doing Pokemon raids and catching things that I would ordinarily be doing by foot. Time for the winter poundage to commence!

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ObserverArt  Jan 1, 2018 • 3:05:28pm

re: #139 makeitstop

Dunno about y’all, but I’m totally askeered of his posting of memes on the internet.

///

This guy thinks he’s really scaring people with this lame shit? No wonder Trump likes him.

He’s a Twitter Tiger.

(Riffed off “paper tiger” - threatening but ineffectual.)

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sagehen  Jan 1, 2018 • 3:07:29pm

re: #138 Belafon

The biggest reason being that the studio he worked for filed and had him deferred because his movies were seen as vital to the war effort, i.e. propaganda. And the government agreed.

According to Wiki,

Wayne was exempted from service due to his age, although actor Henry Fonda, born two years earlier, volunteered and served three years, (34 at the time of Pearl Harbor) and family status, classified as 3-A (family deferment). Wayne repeatedly wrote to John Ford saying he wanted to enlist, on one occasion inquiring whether he could get into Ford’s military unit, but consistently kept postponing it until after “he finished just one or two pictures”

(the WWII draft was for all able-bodied men 18-34 — Wayne was born 1907).

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bill d. (b.d.)  Jan 1, 2018 • 3:09:16pm

re: #138 Belafon

The biggest reason being that the studio he worked for filed and had him deferred because his movies were seen as vital to the war effort, i.e. propaganda. And the government agreed.

Yes. Of course other movie stars just went and signed up rather than waiting for their studio’s lawyers to write up an excuse.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 1, 2018 • 3:11:34pm

“I don’t feel we did wrong in taking this great country away from them [Native Americans], if that’s what you’re asking. Our so-called stealing of this country from them was just a matter of survival. There were great numbers of people who needed new land, and the Indians were selfishly trying to keep it for themselves.

JFC.

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electrotek  Jan 1, 2018 • 3:17:34pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 1, 2018 • 3:17:50pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jan 1, 2018 • 3:20:51pm

re: #64 electrotek

You are on fire today.

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electrotek  Jan 1, 2018 • 3:24:30pm

re: #150 Patricia Kayden

You are on fire today.

hehe

here’s some more fuel to the fire:

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sagehen  Jan 1, 2018 • 3:27:44pm

re: #147 Ace Rothstein

“I don’t feel we did wrong in taking this great country away from them [Native Americans], if that’s what you’re asking. Our so-called stealing of this country from them was just a matter of survival. There were great numbers of people who needed new land, and the Indians were selfishly trying to keep it for themselves.

JFC.

In fairness (and I almost can’t believe I’m saying this)… up until shortly after WWI, most of the nations of the world were in agreement that the borders of your country were wherever your army was strong enough to keep them, and countries took over other countries (or parts of them) all the time.

It wasn’t until just after WWII that the strongest nations finally said “enough of that”, and started the UN and borders since then have mostly been fairly static. What Russia did to Crimea was a throwback to the 19th century was of doing things.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 1, 2018 • 3:29:07pm

re: #57 Charles Johnson

Cenovich’s writing is horrific. That “article” at medium was nothing more than two or three sentence blobs of disconnected brain drippings. He’s trying to do the angry journalist thing, but comes across with the disaffected teen angst thing with real emotion.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 1, 2018 • 3:34:00pm

re: #153 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Cenovich’s writing is horrific. That “article” at medium was nothing more than two or three sentence blobs of disconnected brain drippings. He’s trying to do the angry journalist thing, but comes across with the disaffected teen angst thing with real emotion.

It’s technically awful, even apart from the ugly subject matter. Makes it all the more disgustingly obvious that Medium featured him as a top writer just to capitalize on his far right cult.

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nines09  Jan 1, 2018 • 3:36:14pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 1, 2018 • 3:39:06pm

re: #155 nines09

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He’s Batman.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 1, 2018 • 3:39:46pm

re: #155 nines09

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nines09  Jan 1, 2018 • 3:40:37pm

It’s a lost rich kid with a dirigible and a mobile botox farm.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 1, 2018 • 3:40:40pm

re: #157 FormerDirtDart

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jeebus, WTF is going on with Melon’s boobs???

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 1, 2018 • 3:40:41pm

re: #155 nines09

God, they are such weird fucking people.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 1, 2018 • 3:40:56pm

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electrotek  Jan 1, 2018 • 3:40:56pm

Who is Liz Wheeler anyways?

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 1, 2018 • 3:41:42pm

re: #155 nines09

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Is that photoshopped? They look so … strange. Almost like three strangers who don’t know each other. So unlike the Obamas.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 1, 2018 • 3:43:38pm

re: #162 electrotek

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Who is Liz Wheeler anyways?

Sad! She wanted job with Fox News but they chose Tomi Lahren.

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Belafon  Jan 1, 2018 • 3:43:56pm

re: #162 electrotek

Their “Views have to fit on a bumper sticker” attitude is about as dangerous as an atomic bomb.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Jan 1, 2018 • 3:44:42pm

re: #157 FormerDirtDart

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Donnie doesn’t look as whalish in that picture but he never buttons his jacket.

Barron outgrew his jacket and the haven’t gotten him a new one yet..

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 1, 2018 • 3:45:23pm

OT: I just saw “The Disaster Artist.” I haven’t laughed that hard in a long time. YMMV.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 1, 2018 • 3:45:25pm

re: #162 electrotek

Is it really so difficult to understand that forced anything is problematic? For example, forcing NFL football players to stand for the National Anthem as a fake show of patriotism is weird (and probably unconstitutional given our First Amendment rights). It’s the same with forcing women to cover their heads. It’s not the hijab which is the issue. It’s the issue of force.

Conservatives seem to have a hard time understanding the concept of consent.

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electrotek  Jan 1, 2018 • 3:46:39pm

re: #168 Patricia Kayden

Is it really so difficult to understand that forced anything is problematic. For example, forcing NFL football players to stand for the National Anthem as a fake show of patriotism is weird (and probably unconstitutional given our First Amendment rights). It’s the same with forcing women to cover their heads. It’s not the hijab which is the issue. It’s the issue of force.

Conservatives seem to have a hard time understanding the issue of consent.

But they sure support schools enforcing ‘modesty’ on students who wear tank tops or go braless to class

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bill d. (b.d.)  Jan 1, 2018 • 3:46:45pm

Some people just couldn’t catch a break:

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meteor  Jan 1, 2018 • 3:48:14pm

Oklahoma 31-Georgia 14 at the half. Can’t believe this game is only half over. I’m not much into college football, but there’s no other games on at the moment. Sometimes a game helps distract my eyes.

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nines09  Jan 1, 2018 • 3:48:42pm

.re: #163 Patricia Kayden
Others from that evening exist.
Looks like a real shot to me.

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stpaulbear  Jan 1, 2018 • 3:49:03pm

re: #128 gocart mozart

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Send macho guy Clarke this photo.

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electrotek  Jan 1, 2018 • 3:49:20pm

How often are airports packed on NYE?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 1, 2018 • 3:50:16pm

re: #174 electrotek

How often are airports packed on NYE?

Reasonably.

My sister flew back to MI last night and it sounded like Detroit was busy.

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meteor  Jan 1, 2018 • 3:50:20pm

re: #174 electrotek

Probably always.

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electrotek  Jan 1, 2018 • 3:51:45pm
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nines09  Jan 1, 2018 • 3:54:27pm
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Skip Intro  Jan 1, 2018 • 3:57:48pm

re: #146 bill d. (b.d.)

Yes. Of course other movie stars just went and signed up rather than waiting for their studio’s lawyers to write up an excuse.

If Wayne had done that he wouldn’t have been able to win WWII on the studio backlots.

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electrotek  Jan 1, 2018 • 3:57:59pm
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makeitstop  Jan 1, 2018 • 3:58:36pm
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gocart mozart  Jan 1, 2018 • 3:59:14pm
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gocart mozart  Jan 1, 2018 • 4:00:59pm

re: #173 stpaulbear

I was looking for that on Google and came up empty. Thanks. Will do.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 1, 2018 • 4:03:13pm

re: #163 Patricia Kayden

Is that photoshopped? They look so … strange. Almost like three strangers who don’t know each other. So unlike the Obamas.

I’m not unconvinced they aren’t all cyborgs.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 1, 2018 • 4:05:29pm

re: #184 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m not unconvinced they aren’t all cyborgs.

I’m up in air: was a young Angela Lansbury in Manchurian Candidate better looking than Melania now. I think so.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 1, 2018 • 4:07:06pm

re: #172 nines09

.
Others from that evening exist.
Looks like a real shot to me.

Hmmm. Okay. Looks like three strangers. No smiles. No joy.

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stpaulbear  Jan 1, 2018 • 4:08:34pm

re: #182 gocart mozart

I actually do feel a little bit sorry for Barron. He always looks uncomfortable and he’s stuck with that mockable name and crappy parents. I wonder how long it took for dad to send him off somewhere else? Probably too long from Barron’s point of view.

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Skip Intro  Jan 1, 2018 • 4:09:30pm

re: #163 Patricia Kayden

Is that photoshopped? They look so … strange. Almost like three strangers who don’t know each other. So unlike the Obamas.

Ever seen a pic of Jared? They’re all like this.

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stpaulbear  Jan 1, 2018 • 4:10:38pm

re: #183 gocart mozart

I was looking for that on Google and came up empty. Thanks. Will do.

I had to search ‘John Wayne wearing shorts’ to find it.

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Skip Intro  Jan 1, 2018 • 4:11:31pm

So who paid for the Mnuchins to attend Trump’s big griftathon last night? I know damn well it wasn’t them.

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nines09  Jan 1, 2018 • 4:13:13pm

re: #187 Patricia Kayden

Hmmm. Okay. Looks like three strangers. No smiles. No joy.

Empty. Devoid of humanity or love or caring. Crazy as bugs. Crooked as sin. Criminal to the core.

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makeitstop  Jan 1, 2018 • 4:13:25pm

re: #187 Patricia Kayden

Hmmm. Okay. Looks like three strangers. No smiles. No joy.

Trump looks that way because he is a joyless piece of crap.

Melania looks that way because she’s just there to perform a job (I’m becoming more convinced that she is Trump’s handler for Putin)

Barron looks that way because he knows something is very wrong, but likely has no idea what it is.

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ObserverArt  Jan 1, 2018 • 4:20:28pm

re: #192 nines09

Empty. Devoid of humanity or love or caring. Crazy as bugs. Crooked as sin. Criminal to the core.

Roll models for 25% of the U.S. citizenry.

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Skip Intro  Jan 1, 2018 • 4:23:57pm

From way back in November when we were all young and hopeful.

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makeitstop  Jan 1, 2018 • 4:26:17pm

re: #195 Skip Intro

From way back in November when we were all young and hopeful.

I may not be young, but I absolutely refuse to abandon hope.

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Interesting Times  Jan 1, 2018 • 4:26:58pm

Here’s an interesting take (which explains why said trolls are able to impersonate wingnuts to perfection):

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gocart mozart  Jan 1, 2018 • 4:30:01pm

re: #185 gocart mozart
Sadly he won’t get to see the sexy John Wayne photo.

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gocart mozart  Jan 1, 2018 • 4:33:41pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jan 1, 2018 • 4:34:02pm

re: #198 gocart mozart

So Twitter changed its mind and locked his account for his blatant threats of violence? Good. Hopefully this is a permanent lock.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 1, 2018 • 4:34:30pm

re: #200 Patricia Kayden

So Twitter changed its mind and locked his account for his blatant threats of violence? Good. Hopefully this is a permanent lock.

It won’t be. He’s a cash cow.

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gocart mozart  Jan 1, 2018 • 4:34:35pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 1, 2018 • 4:34:49pm

re: #200 Patricia Kayden

Still looks like it’s active to me.

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Skip Intro  Jan 1, 2018 • 4:36:22pm

re: #200 Patricia Kayden

So Twitter changed its mind and locked his account for his blatant threats of violence? Good. Hopefully this is a permanent lock.

It’s all still there as far as I can tell.

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ObserverArt  Jan 1, 2018 • 4:36:22pm

If your Twitter account is locked, does that stop you from seeing all the responses coming back at you? Just wondering if he can read some of the snark and can’t answer to it while locked.

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makeitstop  Jan 1, 2018 • 4:37:43pm
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fern01  Jan 1, 2018 • 4:52:57pm

re: #109 FormerDirtDart

Pope Francis uses New Year’s Day address to highlight struggles of migrants and refugees: “Please do not extinguish the hope in their hearts”

To me this is the cause of most crime - including that called terrorism. When there is no hope at all - what is left for these people to do?

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Charles Johnson  Jan 1, 2018 • 4:56:02pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 1, 2018 • 4:57:09pm

re: #208 Charles Johnson

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I wonder why you do this to yourself. It’s a valuable service to the community, but my God, man… what possibly remains of your sanity?

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The Major  Jan 1, 2018 • 4:58:27pm

re: #206 makeitstop

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fern01  Jan 1, 2018 • 5:00:13pm

re: #163 Patricia Kayden

Is that photoshopped? They look so … strange. Almost like three strangers who don’t know each other. So unlike the Obamas.

Everything about them is “so unlike the Obamas” - true GOP family values with the moron & his lot.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 1, 2018 • 5:02:12pm

re: #210 The Major

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As bad as she may be, she does occasionally — and much more often than local press — investigate and report on important stories. If we stop all those who are imperfect — and she is very imperfect — we may end up with Sinclair, Breitbart, WSJ, and Fox news only.

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teleskiguy  Jan 1, 2018 • 5:03:16pm

re: #203 Eclectic Cyborg

Still looks like it’s active to me.

When Twitter locks your account, you still have an account, but you cannot tweet, retweet, or favorite tweets for a set amount of time. Sometimes it’s 24 hours, sometimes it’s a week.

re: #205 ObserverArt

If your Twitter account is locked, does that stop you from seeing all the responses coming back at you? Just wondering if he can read some of the snark and can’t answer to it while locked.

He can see the replies to tweets, but he can’t respond.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 1, 2018 • 5:07:37pm

re: #202 gocart mozart

re: #213 teleskiguy

So the tell for when someone is locked is that they suddenly stop tweeting/retweeting?

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teleskiguy  Jan 1, 2018 • 5:08:47pm

re: #214 Eclectic Cyborg

So the tell for when someone is locked is that they suddenly stop tweeting/retweeting?

Yup. And it appears that he really is locked. Hasn’t tweeted in 21 hours.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 1, 2018 • 5:09:07pm
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teleskiguy  Jan 1, 2018 • 5:11:37pm
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The Major  Jan 1, 2018 • 5:13:15pm

re: #217 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 1, 2018 • 5:14:57pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 1, 2018 • 5:17:25pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 1, 2018 • 5:19:46pm
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The Major  Jan 1, 2018 • 5:22:34pm

re: #222 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Skip Intro  Jan 1, 2018 • 5:24:43pm

America in 2018.

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Sea Mexican!  Jan 1, 2018 • 5:25:49pm

Is it just me, or some of these tweets appear from tomorrow?

re: #223 The Major

re: #220 The Vicious Babushka

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 1, 2018 • 5:29:26pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 1, 2018 • 5:29:54pm

re: #220 The Vicious Babushka

Should have known it was Boteach. That guy really rubs me the wrong way.

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BeachDem  Jan 1, 2018 • 5:36:53pm

re: #222 Backwoods_Sleuth

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A robber baron and a $5,000+ mylar balloon—lovely couple.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 1, 2018 • 5:38:03pm

Just opened a bottle of 2014 Penfolds Bin 389, the “Baby Grange.” Holy shit, is it good.

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Interesting Times  Jan 1, 2018 • 5:40:28pm

re: #224 Skip Intro

America in 2018.

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This is the future conservatives want.

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Skip Intro  Jan 1, 2018 • 5:43:53pm

Get you own Melon dress for 60% off.

brownsfashion.com

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Skip Intro  Jan 1, 2018 • 5:45:51pm

re: #230 Interesting Times

This is the future conservatives want.

Well, it is the one they had, back when America was GREAT!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 1, 2018 • 5:48:00pm

re: #232 Skip Intro

Well, it is the one they had, back when America was GREAT!

I’m still struck by the response given by one of my wingnut friends, when he was asked when America was last great: “Late 1940’s or early 1950’s,” in other words, when women were house-slaves, blacks weren’t people, and rich white men ruled the country.

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makeitstop  Jan 1, 2018 • 5:48:35pm

Looks like initial reports about which Australian notified the FBI about Papadopoulos’ blabbing were incorrect.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 1, 2018 • 5:50:12pm
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The Major  Jan 1, 2018 • 5:54:53pm

re: #227 Eclectic Cyborg

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 1, 2018 • 5:55:54pm

re: #235 Charles Johnson

What the fuck do hot dogs have to do with Pizzagate?

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nowherenorth2  Jan 1, 2018 • 5:56:18pm

re: #237 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Agreed. Confused by this tweet.

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teleskiguy  Jan 1, 2018 • 5:57:50pm

re: #237 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

What the fuck do hot dogs have to do with Pizzagate?

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Charles Johnson  Jan 1, 2018 • 5:57:57pm

re: #237 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

What the fuck do hot dogs have to do with Pizzagate?

I don’t know, and I don’t really want to know. It’s obviously some weird point they think is VERY REVEALING, but these are crazy people we’re talking about.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 1, 2018 • 6:00:21pm

re: #240 Charles Johnson

I don’t know, and I don’t really want to know. It’s obviously some weird point they think is VERY REVEALING, but these are crazy people we’re talking about.

Yeah, it’s pretty typical of a conspiracy theory. They’ve connected some really crazy dots, they think it’s a smoking gun, and the rest of us are wondering what the hell they’re nattering on about.

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makeitstop  Jan 1, 2018 • 6:00:37pm

Also, Guardian says that UK intelligence noticed first (in 2015), and that agencies from across the world were involved.

Britain’s spy agencies played a crucial role in alerting their counterparts in Washington to contacts between members of Donald Trump’s campaign team and Russian intelligence operatives, the Guardian has been told.

GCHQ first became aware in late 2015 of suspicious “interactions” between figures connected to Trump and known or suspected Russian agents, a source close to UK intelligence said. This intelligence was passed to the US as part of a routine exchange of information, they added.

Over the next six months, until summer 2016, a number of western agencies shared further information on contacts between Trump’s inner circle and Russians, sources said.

The European countries that passed on electronic intelligence - known as sigint - included Germany, Estonia and Poland. Australia, a member of the “Five Eyes” spying alliance that also includes the US, UK, Canada and New Zealand, also relayed material, one source said.

Another source suggested the Dutch and the French spy agency, the General Directorate for External Security or DGSE, were contributors.

Everybody saw what these thugs were doing. That they thought they could get clear really points up how stupid they really are.

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DodgerFan1988  Jan 1, 2018 • 6:01:24pm

Colorado cop killer was an Alt-Righter. Where’s the outrage on Fox News? If the murderer was a black man we never hear the end of how “Black Lives Matter are encouraging violence against Law Enforcement.”

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Decatur Deb  Jan 1, 2018 • 6:01:55pm

re: #240 Charles Johnson

I don’t know, and I don’t really want to know. It’s obviously some weird point they think is VERY REVEALING, but these are crazy people we’re talking about.

Remembering from when this was a Thing, different food orders were supposedly code words for different kinds of victims, perversions, etc.

Let me help. I speak nutcase jive.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 1, 2018 • 6:02:52pm

re: #234 makeitstop

Looks like initial reports about which Australian notified the FBI about Papadopoulos’ blabbing were incorrect.

[Embedded content]

Yep. Leaked by American sources because Hockey has some irrelevant dirt on him that will make him vulnerable to smear campaign.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 1, 2018 • 6:08:59pm
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ObserverArt  Jan 1, 2018 • 6:09:35pm

re: #242 makeitstop

Also, Guardian says that UK intelligence noticed first (in 2015), and that agencies from across the world were involved.

Everybody saw what these thugs were doing. That they thought they could get clear really points up how stupid they really are.

Wingnut thinking: “They are all in on it. They are all out to hurt Trump and keep him from Making America Great. This is all set up by deep state liberals funded by Soros.”

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ObserverArt  Jan 1, 2018 • 6:11:41pm

re: #244 Decatur Deb

Remembering from when this was a Thing, different food orders were supposedly code words for different kinds of victims, perversions, etc.

Let me help. I speak nutcase jive.

Ahhhh…hot dogs. I see.

Sometimes a hotdog is just a hotdog. I think Freud stated that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 1, 2018 • 6:12:32pm

re: #240 Charles Johnson

I don’t know, and I don’t really want to know. It’s obviously some weird point they think is VERY REVEALING, but these are crazy people we’re talking about.

what’s somewhat revealing is the fact that the $ was placed after the amount.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 1, 2018 • 6:14:51pm

re: #249 Backwoods_Sleuth

what’s somewhat revealing is the fact that the $ was placed after the amount.

So probably a Putin troll trying to sow disagreement.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 1, 2018 • 6:16:04pm

re: #250 Hecuba’s daughter

So probably a Putin troll trying to sow disagreement.

Or just some free-lance overseas asshole.

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BeachDem  Jan 1, 2018 • 6:18:47pm

re: #244 Decatur Deb

Remembering from when this was a Thing, different food orders were supposedly code words for different kinds of victims, perversions, etc.

Let me help. I speak nutcase jive.

And (supposedly) OBAMA SPENT $65K FLYING IN ‘PIZZA AND HOTDOGS’ FROM CHICAGO TO WHITE HOUSE PRIVATE PARTY 11ty

(in their minds, “hotdogs” are young boys—hey, I didn’t say it made any sense…)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 1, 2018 • 6:20:13pm

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 1, 2018 • 6:20:31pm

re: #243 DodgerFan1988

Colorado cop killer was an Alt-Righter. Where’s the outrage on Fox News? If the murderer was a black man we never hear the end of how “Black Lives Matter are encouraging violence against Law Enforcement.”

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Non-Muslim white male — of course there is no problem. No matter what kind of crime they commit, it’s a lone wolf situation that doesn’t demand any further investigation, especially if a firearm is involved.

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makeitstop  Jan 1, 2018 • 6:20:53pm

re: #247 ObserverArt

Wingnut thinking: “They are all in on it. They are all out to hurt Trump and keep him from making America Great. This is all set up by deep state liberals funded by Soros.”

True. But I believe that once evidence is presented, it’s going to do real damage.

His hard core will go to their graves believing Trump is being railroaded. But he’s not getting away without evidence changing minds.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 1, 2018 • 6:21:20pm

re: #253 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

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The one ego that could possibly out-Trump Trump.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Jan 1, 2018 • 6:26:35pm

What a Rose Bowl……The Georgia guys thanked God for helping them win the game, guess all that time the Sooners spent in church didn’t get you any favors? I would ask why God hates Oklahoma but I’ve been there.

//

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 1, 2018 • 6:28:00pm
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Ace Rothstein  Jan 1, 2018 • 6:30:13pm

re: #257 bill d. (b.d.)

I saw that. I wonder if the Georgia QB would’ve thanked God if they had lost. After all the bumper sticker says “Relax. God’s in control.”

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Skip Intro  Jan 1, 2018 • 6:32:46pm

re: #258 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 1, 2018 • 6:34:34pm

re: #257 bill d. (b.d.)

What a Rose Bowl……The Georgia guys thanked God for helping them win the game, guess all that time the Sooners spent in church didn’t get you any favors? I would ask why God hates Oklahoma but I’ve been there.

//

Oh, be nice. Anymouse lives there, it can’t be all bad.

[Cough.]///

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retired cynic  Jan 1, 2018 • 6:34:57pm

Wow. Lost internet a while ago; the satellite modem is down. Could not get through to HughesNet for several hours. Finally did, and their whole system is down. A hack? I don’t know! I am on my iPhone hotspot off and on, to keep from going insane.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Jan 1, 2018 • 6:35:44pm

re: #257 bill d. (b.d.)

Was a great game. At least God let the right team win.//

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Skip Intro  Jan 1, 2018 • 6:36:00pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 1, 2018 • 6:36:04pm

re: #258 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Hearing my dad talk about anything not virulently pro-Trump as “fake news” really took me to new heights of pissed off. Goddamn it, Dad, you’re a fucking brilliant engineer, use your damn brain and do your RESEARCH. Don’t just listen to the big-breasted blonde bimbos on Faux News and Donald Trump’s tweets and try to pass them off as gospel.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 1, 2018 • 6:39:03pm
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retired cynic  Jan 1, 2018 • 6:40:14pm

Oh, 25 seconds of absolutely worth it!!!

Sun Halo over Sweden

Explained here: apod.nasa.gov

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 1, 2018 • 6:40:51pm

re: #263 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

Was a great game. At least God let the right team win.//

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ObserverArt  Jan 1, 2018 • 6:42:11pm

re: #261 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Oh, be nice. Anymouse lives there, it can’t be all bad.

[Cough.]///

Uh, Anymouse is in Big Ten country. Nebraska.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 1, 2018 • 6:43:20pm

re: #269 ObserverArt

Uh, Anymouse is in Big Ten country. Nebraska.

Bah, you’re right. I admit I get the two confused sometimes. I’m a terrible US citizen.

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makeitstop  Jan 1, 2018 • 6:45:02pm

re: #270 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Bah, you’re right. I admit I get the two confused sometimes. I’m a terrible US citizen.

But he moved to Nebraska from Oklahoma, so you were right at some point in time. :)

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bill d. (b.d.)  Jan 1, 2018 • 6:45:08pm

re: #270 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Bah, you’re right. I admit I get the two confused sometimes. I’m a terrible US citizen.

Get on a 6’ ladder and you can see Nebraska from Oklahoma.

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ObserverArt  Jan 1, 2018 • 6:45:19pm

re: #270 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Bah, you’re right. I admit I get the two confused sometimes. I’m a terrible US citizen.

I do believe he said he moved to Nebraska from Oklahoma. So, there is that.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 1, 2018 • 6:51:06pm

re: #272 bill d. (b.d.)

Get on a 6’ ladder and you can see Nebraska from Oklahoma.

Get on top of a building and you can see Russia from Alaska.///

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bill d. (b.d.)  Jan 1, 2018 • 6:53:41pm

re: #274 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Get on top of a building and you can see Russia from Alaska.///

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 1, 2018 • 7:00:56pm

re: #265 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Hearing my dad talk about anything not virulently pro-Trump as “fake news” really took me to new heights of pissed off. Goddamn it, Dad, you’re a fucking brilliant engineer, use your damn brain and do your RESEARCH. Don’t just listen to the big-breasted blonde bimbos on Faux News and Donald Trump’s tweets and try to pass them off as gospel.

My RW brother is an engineer too and regurgitates every RW lie, except Pizzagate. I don’t think that education in applied mathematics protects you against dishonesty in any venue outside of your narrow technical training. You are not taught to detect deliberate deception. You are also not immune to racism.

An anti-Trump friend who runs a small business explained to me that he knew many businessmen like Trump: they lie and boast about their achievements and have no problems with misogyny or racism. They also hold an exalted opinion about others in the business community who are “successful” and are contemptuous of government officials or civil servants.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 1, 2018 • 7:03:19pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 1, 2018 • 7:03:36pm

Okay, who left their HTML tags open?

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 1, 2018 • 7:05:16pm
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jaunte  Jan 1, 2018 • 7:06:35pm

One of last night’s Amber alerts,
could be two states away by now.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 1, 2018 • 7:07:09pm

re: #279 FormerDirtDart

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“Of course I believe you over our own Intelligence Community, nondescript first name followed by 8 random digits!”

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Stanley Sea  Jan 1, 2018 • 7:08:23pm

re: #280 jaunte

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One of last night’s Amber alerts,
could be two states away by now.

He killed their mom, right?

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electrotek  Jan 1, 2018 • 7:10:32pm

20 years ago this month a monumental album came out by a French duo out of Versailles called Air. My mind was shattered when I first saw the music video for this well-known single off of Moon Safari:

AIR - Sexy Boy (Official Video)

Christ I feel old.

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jaunte  Jan 1, 2018 • 7:10:39pm

re: #282 Stanley Sea

I haven’t read that.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Jan 1, 2018 • 7:18:50pm

Someone left the ital tag open since about #199

Let’s see if this fixes it…

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Jan 1, 2018 • 7:29:24pm

My cats do shit like this. I get home and they act all innocent, and then I find that everything in my sock drawer is now packed underneath the dresser like they want me to have to go buy a whole new batch of socks.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Jan 1, 2018 • 7:36:57pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 1, 2018 • 7:45:17pm

re: #287 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

The cat tried to unlock the phone. I, for one, welcome our new feline overlords.

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bratwurst  Jan 1, 2018 • 7:48:37pm
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FormerDirtDart  Jan 1, 2018 • 7:50:07pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 1, 2018 • 7:52:59pm

re: #290 FormerDirtDart

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I think the SMOTI can feasibly lay claim to the title of “dumbest person in the world”. But to be fair, Don Jr. can’t be all that far behind him.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 1, 2018 • 7:55:27pm
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jaunte  Jan 1, 2018 • 8:00:34pm

Libertarians will never learn:

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 1, 2018 • 8:04:31pm

re: #293 jaunte

Libertarians will never learn:

[Embedded content]

What the actual goddamn fuck? The airline industry is, quite possibly, the most tightly regulated industry worldwide. The ICAO makes it extremely difficult to pull shenanigans and not get punished, no matter which country your airline operates from. Not to say that extreme regulation is the answer to everything, but to the original point, a tightly regulated industry can actually succeed in delivering immense value - and safety - and does not need to be deregulated to be “set free”.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 1, 2018 • 8:04:46pm

Can’t. Stand. Bama.

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TedStriker  Jan 1, 2018 • 8:08:19pm

re: #293 jaunte

Libertarians will never learn:

[Embedded content]

I skimmed through his tweets…he’s a Conservative Brexiter and a fucking tool.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 1, 2018 • 8:08:57pm

re: #295 Stanley Sea

Can’t. Stand. Bama.

You and me both. Unfortunately the SOBs just scored.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 1, 2018 • 8:09:28pm

re: #296 TedStriker

I skimmed through his tweets…he’s a Conservative Brexiter and a fucking tool.

And a dumbass. Anyone with more than a passing interest in civil aviation (like yours truly) knows that air traffic regulation is strictly standardized around the world for the specific purpose of ensuring that a pilot trained in one country can fly to any other country and not fuck shit up.

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austin_blue  Jan 1, 2018 • 8:16:59pm

re: #298 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

And a dumbass. Anyone with more than a passing interest in civil aviation (like yours truly) knows that air traffic regulation is strictly standardized around the world for the specific purpose of ensuring that a pilot trained in one country can fly to any other country and not fuck shit up.

They also shut down shitty airlines from intercontinental travel based on their maintenance history. ICAO is one of the most effective regulatory agencies on the planet, and it works because everyone pulls together to toe the line.

You know why? Because the insurers and reinsurers demand it. Nothing pays out like a commercial plane crash. It’s all about the money. And money talks.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 1, 2018 • 8:21:02pm

re: #299 austin_blue

They also shut down shitty airlines from intercontinental travel based on their maintenance history. ICAO is one of the most effective regulatory agencies on the planet, and it works because everyone pulls together to toe the line.

You know why? Because the insurers and reinsurers demand it. Nothing pays out like a commercial plane crash. It’s all about the money. And money talks.

And when you’re talking about planes that individually cost millions of dollars and the lawsuits on top of that for hundreds of passengers, there is considerable incentive in making sure that fuckups are punished severely.


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