A Beautiful Response to Misogyny: Heather Maloney, “Don’t Be a Pansy”

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You believe in the brittle
In the branches you whittle
You shave with your blade ‘til your points have been made
You sing praise to the rigid
God forbid you admitted
Any time you’ve been wrong, you’ve been right all along

You can board up the windows
You can lock all the doors
You can patch every crack in the ceilings and floors
But the light’s gonna find you
And maybe you’ll see
To be tough - it ain’t strong
To be closed - it ain’t free

And there was a storm last night
Took down your power lines
I watched the great oak tree
Fall right down to its knees

And there was a storm last night
It took down your power lines
Wasn’t a petal out of place
On every pansy’s face

But you’re stone as a statue
And I’m looking right at you
But I know you won’t budge
Like a bull, like a grudge
Don’t be moved, don’t be touched, don’t be tender
Don’t you ever surrender
And whatever is feminine, don’t let it in

And there was a storm last night
Took down the power lines
I watched the great oak tree
Fall right down to its knees

And then in the morning light
The patches of pansies bright
Brighter from all the rain
A flower whose very name…

You spat in the faces
With their glasses and braces
And everyone you put down was a jewel in your crown
Precious and pretty
That’s what you called me
‘Cause I’m soft and I’m free and I dance in the rain

You believe in the brittle
You won’t bend just a little
But can you feel the storm coming right for your pride?

And there was a storm last night
Took down the power lines
I watched the great oak tree
Fall right down to its knees

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324 comments

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 1, 2018 • 8:15:30pm

And Bama just scored again. Good grief.

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austin_blue  Jan 1, 2018 • 8:19:22pm

re: #1 Eclectic Cyborg

And Bama just scored again. Good grief.

Pick six. Good grief, indeed. The last thing I wanted to see was an SEC final.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 1, 2018 • 8:22:31pm

re: #2 austin_blue

Pick six. Good grief. The last thing I wanted to se was an SEC final.

To be fair, my dad raised this point, at least the final won’t be another Alabama vs. Clemson. One of those two will be eliminated in this game.

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austin_blue  Jan 1, 2018 • 8:32:42pm

re: #3 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

To be fair, my dad raised this point, at least the final won’t be another Alabama vs. Clemson. One of those two will be eliminated in this game.

Clemons (sic) has a total of 99 yards of offense through three quarters. Pitiful.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 1, 2018 • 8:35:44pm

re: #4 austin_blue

Clemons (sic) has a total of 99 yards of offense through three quarters. Pitiful.

I think the one that really torqued me the wrong way was Michigan. I come from Big Ten country and my dad was a Big Ten graduate (proud son of a Boilermaker here!), and them losing what was almost a perfect bowl season really pissed me the hell off. Goddamn it, Michigan, the one time I actually WANT you to win and you blow it. I knew there was a reason I hated you.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 1, 2018 • 8:36:29pm

Just checked the supermoon, directly overhead through very cold, dry air. Sucker is bright.

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teleskiguy  Jan 1, 2018 • 8:39:42pm

re: #6 Decatur Deb

Just checked the supermoon, directly overhead through very cold, dry air. Sucker is bright.

It’s just a white blob here as the skies are rather overcast, which is keeping the temperature a balmy 34° F.

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William Lewis  Jan 1, 2018 • 8:40:18pm

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Stanley Sea  Jan 1, 2018 • 8:41:32pm

re: #8 William Lewis

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austin_blue  Jan 1, 2018 • 8:48:24pm

re: #6 Decatur Deb

Just checked the supermoon, directly overhead through very cold, dry air. Sucker is bright.

5500’ overcast. I guess the moon is up there?

29 degree air, 21 degree wind chill, 28 consecutive hours at or below freezing (we hit 32 today!).

Yeah, that’s not really “winter”, but in Central Texas, it’s an oddity. Happens once every couple of years.

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austin_blue  Jan 1, 2018 • 8:51:52pm

Her’s a very interesting article:

theguardian.com

Teller may have been an anti-Semitic motherfucker, but he was hella smart.

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retired cynic  Jan 1, 2018 • 8:52:03pm

We are totally cloud covered. Hard to even see a white blob. Still no internet, so I am going to call it a night, but wanted to leave you with an article: Making China Great Again, Evan Osnos in The New Yorker:

China has never seen such a moment, when its pursuit of a larger role in the world coincides with America’s pursuit of a smaller one.

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austin_blue  Jan 1, 2018 • 8:55:38pm

re: #12 retired cynic

We are totally cloud covered. Hard to even see a white blob. Still no internet, so I am going to call it a night, but wanted to leave you with an article: Making China Great Again, Evan Osnos in The New Yorker:

Yeah, well, Trump. Go figure.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 1, 2018 • 8:59:58pm

re: #2 austin_blue

Pick six. Good grief, indeed. The last thing I wanted to see was an SEC final.

They rejected Roy Moore, just let them have this.

And that fills my quota for pretending to care about football for the year. Bring on the ladies’ soccer!

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austin_blue  Jan 1, 2018 • 9:07:00pm

re: #14 goddamnedfrank

They rejected Roy Moore, just let them have this.

And that fills my quota for pretending to care about football for the year. Bring on the ladies’ soccer!

I am in love with Megan Rapinoe. Yes, yes, I know, but I played soccer for years when I was a kid and I know a brilliant attacking midfielder when I see one. Oh, and I’m also in love with Kevin De Bruyne, but not in that way. I’m an old, straight, white fart.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 1, 2018 • 9:08:12pm

re: #14 goddamnedfrank

They rejected Roy Moore, just let them have this.

And that fills my quota for pretending to care about football for the year. Bring on the ladies’ soccer!

There’s some pretty awesome ladies’ hockey coming up. Olympics and all that.

I got to see the likely US and Canada teams play each other last month which was pretty fucking awesome.

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teleskiguy  Jan 1, 2018 • 9:12:34pm

SPORTS!

Local hero Mikaela Shiffrin - as long as she stays healthy and doesn’t get seriously hurt - is on her way to becoming possibly the most accomplished alpine ski racer ever.

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austin_blue  Jan 1, 2018 • 9:19:12pm

re: #17 teleskiguy

SPORTS!

Local hero Mikaela Shiffrin - as long as she stays healthy and doesn’t get seriously hurt - is on her way to becoming possibly the most accomplished alpine ski racer ever.

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And she’s cute as a bug!

Reviewing this Bama-Clemons (sic) game, the only highlight I’ve seen is Bama QB Jalen Hurts getting run out of bounds and knocking Nick Fucking Saban ass over teakettle.

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austin_blue  Jan 1, 2018 • 9:21:50pm

Damn. Alabama vs Georgia.

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austin_blue  Jan 1, 2018 • 9:22:41pm

Make America SEC Again!

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 1, 2018 • 9:27:56pm
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teleskiguy  Jan 1, 2018 • 9:29:10pm

Once upon a time I fell in love with a UGA graduate. Met her in Steamboat at work, she wanted to spend a summer in Colorado to go to Red Rocks concerts and mountain bike the summer after her sophomore year. I chased her all the way to Georgia the following May and we saw Widespread Panic three nights in a row at The Classic Center in Athens. It was finals week, and somehow she found the time to hang out with me and go to concerts and get A’s on all her exams (smart as a whip, this gal is). She’s married to a dude who can grow a way better beard than I and lives in Denver for the Red Rocks concerts and mountain biking. We’re still friends.

Point is, I’m sure she’s *very excite* about the upcoming college sportsball championship. And I still love her.

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Belafon  Jan 1, 2018 • 9:29:28pm

re: #21 FormerDirtDart

If you won’t do it for the humans, do it for the cute doggies.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 1, 2018 • 9:36:38pm

I imagine there are many parties that will be more than happy to bankroll appeals all the way to the US Supreme Court.

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austin_blue  Jan 1, 2018 • 9:51:54pm

I like this. I like this a whole lot:

cnn.com

What pisses me off is that these women have to put up their own money for crimes that should be self-policed by every industry in the US.

That’s pitiful.

Male privilege has no place in our world, and yet:

It persists.

Go get ‘em!

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austin_blue  Jan 1, 2018 • 9:55:41pm

Galloping up on midnight and I’m off to sleep. Sweet dreams, all. Another day, another opportunity for nuclear annihilation avoided. Whew!

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 2, 2018 • 12:46:44am
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wheat-dogg  Jan 2, 2018 • 1:10:17am

re: #12 retired cynic

We are totally cloud covered. Hard to even see a white blob. Still no internet, so I am going to call it a night, but wanted to leave you with an article: Making China Great Again, Evan Osnos in The New Yorker:

Very good analysis. This paragraph in particular shows some people Beijing understand the Trumps better than most journalists in the USA (cough - Maggie Haberman - cough)

After the summit, the Pangoal Institution, a Beijing think tank, published an analysis of the Trump Administration, describing it as a den of warring “cliques,” the most influential of which was the “Trump family clan.” The Trump clan appears to “directly influence final decisions” on business and diplomacy in a way that “has rarely been seen in the political history of the United States,” the analyst wrote. He summed it up using an obscure phrase from feudal China: jiatianxia—“to treat the state as your possession.”

That’s exactly how Trump & Co. think of themselves — the owners of the USA. In China, the emperors had the same deep-seated belief until, suddenly, they weren’t in power anymore. I await the day when the same reality smacks Donnie Smallhands in the face.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 2, 2018 • 1:12:03am

re: #27 Single-handed sailor

Smart woman, plus I bet her fees help pay the rent on that fancy flat!

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wheat-dogg  Jan 2, 2018 • 1:21:35am

re: #29 wheat-dogg

Osnos also makes an important point: China does not consider itself to be a moral leader of the world, as the USA does (did). It’s not going to spread socialism with Chinese characteristics all over the world, or insist its client states observe human rights, freedom of the press, environmental standards, etc. It’s not going to offer famine relief, or earthquake recovery assistance, because it’s the noble thing to do. It’s not going to take in refugees, and it’s not going to liberalize its immigration laws to welcome foreigners into its fold.

China will, however, do everything it can to protect its borders, its economy, and its “harmonious society.” The Party does not want the Outside World to intrude on the Inside World, so China will hold every other nation at arm’s length.

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freetoken  Jan 2, 2018 • 2:07:59am

re: #29 wheat-dogg

I keep wondering about all the beautiful people who for a long time have surrounded Trump, at his resort, etc. both before and after the election.

They have no problem with Trump’s love of nepotism.

Because they also benefit.

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freetoken  Jan 2, 2018 • 2:31:06am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 2, 2018 • 2:41:04am

re: #24 FormerDirtDart

The fine, by the way, isn’t for refusing the order. It’s for “emotional damages.” Y’know, for gleefully leading a nationwide harassment campaign against a couple of people who just wanted a fucking cake.

it will be spun as the liberal courts forcing a gay agenda on Christians and punishing those who do not bend to the iron hand of gay propaganda

the nuances are beyond them: there is the Sacrament of Holy Matrimony and there is the civil status of marriage. There was a time when the two were identical, over recent centuries the two have diverged, and the key point is that the Sacrament is personal and subjective and any person or church can refuse to grant or accept that status between two people for any reason.

But in our country (and most of the rest of the enlightened and civilized world) marriage is a universal human right between any two adults, regardless of gender.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 2, 2018 • 2:43:35am

re: #32 freetoken

I keep wondering about all the beautiful people who for a long time have surrounded Trump, at his resort, etc. both before and after the election.

They have no problem with Trump’s love of nepotism.

Because they also benefit.

It’s the same old story. Sycophants hoping to ride the coattails of the Great Leader into fame and fortune, only to lose it all when the Great Leader inevitably falls from power.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 2, 2018 • 2:44:41am

re: #35 wheat-dogg

It’s the same old story. Sycophants hoping to ride the coattails of the Great Leader into fame and fortune, only to lose it all when the Great Leader inevitably falls from power.

they often lose it before he falls from power, they just have to fall out of favor with leader or other sycophants. and then find their reputations and careers permanently damaged.

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Targetpractice  Jan 2, 2018 • 2:48:05am

re: #29 wheat-dogg

Very good analysis. This paragraph in particular shows some people Beijing understand the Trumps better than most journalists in the USA (cough - Maggie Haberman - cough)

That’s exactly how Trump & Co. think of themselves — the owners of the USA. In China, the emperors had the same deep-seated belief until, suddenly, they weren’t in power anymore. I await the day when the same reality smacks Donnie Smallhands in the face.

It’s like I’ve said before, Donny doesn’t see himself as President of the United States of America, he sees himself as CEO of United States, Inc. Which is what frustrates him so greatly, that the presidency does not afford him the same level of unquestioned power that he had as CEO of his own company. He can’t rule by fiat, he can’t fired people on a whim, he has to actually treat others with some modicum of deference even if he refuses to respect them, and he can’t bribe the local law enforcement into looking the other way.

It’s why he’s just checked out of the job and left it to his underlings to do, because he gets to take the credit for any successes and any failures he can (and does) blame entirely on them.

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Targetpractice  Jan 2, 2018 • 2:59:06am

re: #34 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

it will be spun as the liberal courts forcing a gay agenda on Christians and punishing those who do not bend to the iron hand of gay propaganda

the nuances are beyond them: there is the Sacrament of Holy Matrimony and there is the civil status of marriage. There was a time when the two were identical, over recent centuries the two have diverged, and the key point is that the Sacrament is personal and subjective and any person or church can refuse to grant or accept that status between two people for any reason.

But in our country (and most of the rest of the enlightened and civilized world) marriage is a universal human right between any two adults, regardless of gender.

The evangelical crowd tied their own noose on this matter by spending the longest time using the letter of civil law to attack gay couples. Whether it was taking medical decisions out of the hands of a partner, enforcing final wishes, barring them from adoption, or other matters where the word “marriage” was written explicitly into the law. They made it so there was simply no substitute for marriage in the law and turned what might have been viewed simply as a religious ceremony into a civil right that the courts had to protect.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 2, 2018 • 3:01:19am

re: #37 Targetpractice

It’s like I’ve said before, Donny doesn’t see himself as President of the United States of America, he sees himself as CEO of United States, Inc. Which is what frustrates him so greatly, that the presidency does not afford him the same level of unquestioned power that he had as CEO of his own company. He can’t rule by fiat, he can’t fired people on a whim, he has to actually treat others with some modicum of deference even if he refuses to respect them, and he can’t bribe the local law enforcement into looking the other way.

It’s why he’s just checked out of the job and left it to his underlings to do, because he gets to take the credit for any successes and any failures he can (and does) blame entirely on them.

Exactly. Even if he wanted to be President, which I still doubt, he’s learned that it’s not the kind of job he is suited for. He wants to be a petty dictator, like he is as CEO of Trump Org., but so far the American system of government is preventing him from running the country by fiat.

Meanwhile, his part-time presidenting means no one is captain of the ship, and the various factions within the Executive Branch are free to do what they like, except when it impinges upon the goals of another faction. Osnos’ article mentions this chaotic situation, as foreign leaders and reps no longer go to the White House to ask for things. They just go directly to whatever executive office would best help them.

If Trump had a sharp mind and a willingness to work hard at his job, we would be in a world of hurt. So far, he only seems interested in maintaining a façade of being president cum petty dictator. If letting him retreat to the golf course is the price we pay to keep the American system of government intact, I’d say it’s worth the expense.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 2, 2018 • 3:20:21am

“What they won’t teach you in school….”

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wheat-dogg  Jan 2, 2018 • 3:50:47am
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wheat-dogg  Jan 2, 2018 • 3:58:41am

China is planning to send a lander to the far side of the Moon and a relay satellite to enable communications with Earth.

theguardian.com

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Decatur Deb  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:04:47am
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Barefoot Grin  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:26:45am

re: #42 wheat-dogg

China is planning to send a lander to the far side of the Moon and a relay satellite to enable communications with Earth.

theguardian.com

Pink Floyd available wherever you are in the universe….

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steve_davis  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:29:54am

re: #4 austin_blue

Clemons (sic) has a total of 99 yards of offense through three quarters. Pitiful.

it’s Clemson. they’re my alma mater. and yeah, we’ve been working with a quarterback all year who means well but isn’t really equipped for this kind of game.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:51:19am
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Decatur Deb  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:59:08am

re: #42 wheat-dogg

China is planning to send a lander to the far side of the Moon and a relay satellite to enable communications with Earth.

theguardian.com

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wheat-dogg  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:08:38am

re: #47 Decatur Deb

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:12:19am

re: #46 The Vicious Babushka

You really need to get over this obsession you have with Hillary, it’s tired, unimportant & embarrassing

that should be addressed to the media, and not just Trump

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Decatur Deb  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:17:25am

re: #48 wheat-dogg

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:24:04am

re: #24 FormerDirtDart

I imagine there are many parties that will be more than happy to bankroll appeals all the way to the US Supreme Court.

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There are plenty of Pulpit Pimping RepubliKKKlans who will gladly finance their appeal to the corrupted Supreme Court.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:24:27am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:27:31am

re: #52 The Vicious Babushka

Today’s must-read: “Almost every foreign policy decision [Trump] makes will raise serious conflicts of interest.

This was well known well in advance of elections and just did not seem to bother people half as much as e-mails, Clinton Foundation and Uranium One news.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:30:25am

CHEEZE US

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Decatur Deb  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:31:17am

re: #54 The Vicious Babushka

CHEEZE US

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Who could see that coming?

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dangerman  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:33:36am

here we go:

YouTube

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Dave In Austin  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:33:43am

Ahhhh a little good news…

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:35:14am

re: #57 Dave In Austin

Knowing very little as I do about Twitter, what’d the difference between “locked” and “suspended”?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:36:02am

re: #54 The Vicious Babushka

“Let’s work to get back to a balanced federal budget. It’s something we can absolutely do with the growth we’re getting out of the tax cuts.”

they are softening us up for Phase 2, which is more government cuts to swell the burgeoning deficit that they are helping make inevitable

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Dave In Austin  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:36:54am
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wheat-dogg  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:38:18am

re: #54 The Vicious Babushka

I spent some time over the weekend watching a series of videos by one of those precious metals wonks, Mike Maloney. He argues that governments and markets tend to follow the same cycle over and over, and he suggests that the last government action before a massive recession is tax cuts + attempts to jigger the budget to compensate for the tax cuts. And guess what the GOP controlled Congress has just done and is trying to do. He also predicted that a recession would happen while Trump is in office.

I don’t agree with everything he says or advises, but I believe he’s right about the economy taking a turn for the worse under Trump. The GOP have taken a perfectly healthy economy and ruined it, just to give their donors a nice little Christmas present.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:38:35am

re: #60 Dave In Austin

Moar “Counting the chickens before they hatch” spew from Republican ammosexual victim of gun violence.

Because the trickle-down approach has such a stellar track record

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Dave In Austin  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:39:03am

re: #58 Dr Lizardo

Not sure myself, but my assumption is that he cant use the account for a few days or weeks. For a 1st time offence, that’s prolly about right. Took Chucky 3 or more times to be ejected if you remember.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:39:49am

re: #61 wheat-dogg

I don’t agree with everything he says or advises, but I believe he’s right about the economy taking a turn for the worse under Trump. The GOP have taken a perfectly healthy economy and ruined it, just to give their donors a nice little Christmas present.

It can be tweaked enough to keep it buoyed up until the next elections…and next year, enough people will be seeing enough of a temporary tax reduction to continue to vote GOP.

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dangerman  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:40:06am

re: #57 Dave In Austin

Ahhhh a little good news…

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top twitter accounts and hashtags

electoral-vote states the obvious:

In any event, the President has often sent tweets that clearly violate Twitter’s terms of service. These lists, however, make clear why he will never, ever get suspended or booted--he is an absolute machine when it comes to driving traffic to (and on) the platform

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:40:23am

re: #57 Dave In Austin

Ahhhh a little good news…

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You can still see the garbage Sheriff Tiny Pee Pee posts on Twitter…

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Dave In Austin  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:41:10am

re: #57 Dave In Austin

And Natasha because this old fart find her extremely hot……

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dangerman  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:41:25am

re: #54 The Vicious Babushka

CHEEZE US

.@SteveScalise: “Let’s work to get back to a balanced federal budget. It’s something we can absolutely do with the growth we’re getting out of the tax cuts.”

already?
that was fast!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:44:15am

re: #68 dangerman

already?
that was fast!

In other words here come the Social Security, SSI, Medicare and Medicaid cuts…

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Decatur Deb  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:47:54am

re: #69 Joe Bacon 🌹

In other words here come the Social Security, SSI, Medicare and Medicaid cuts…

Feature bug.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:49:12am

re: #54 The Vicious Babushka

CHEEZE US

The deficit matters again. Of course.

/

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jeffreyw  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:05:48am

Imgur
Good morning!

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Sir John Barron  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:07:10am

re: #54 The Vicious Babushka

”..the growth we’re getting out of the tax cuts.”

The astronomical rates of growth we aren’t seeing yet from the tax cuts that were just passed and haven’t taken effect yet. OK. //

The latest in Fake News.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:08:26am

re: #73 Sir John Barron

The astronomical rates of growth we aren’t seeing yet from the tax cuts that were just passed and haven’t taken effect yet. OK. //

The latest in Fake News.

BUT WE’RE GONNA CUT YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY & DISABILITY BECAUSE YOU’LL BE MAKING TONS OF MONEY WORKING YOUR ASS OFF IN TEH COAL MINES!!!11!!!!11

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Decatur Deb  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:11:41am

We do the best we can with what we’ve got.

Alabama firefighter plays ‘ball’ as New Year approaches
fox13news.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:15:39am

JFC…

gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh

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Sir John Barron  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:18:26am

re: #76 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC…

gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh

Also good news, comrades! The sugar ration has been increased to 2 grams! Praise Big Brother!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:20:34am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:23:20am
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Decatur Deb  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:23:50am

re: #76 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC…

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gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh

One more for the ‘accomplishments’ list.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:23:57am

re: #76 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC…

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gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh

Follow-up: What new regs did you put in place prior to taking office that caused this good year in air travel? Can you list them 1..n so we know what worked?

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darthstar  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:28:34am
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darthstar  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:31:32am

re: #75 Decatur Deb

We do the best we can with what we’ve got.

Alabama firefighter plays ‘ball’ as New Year approaches
fox13news.com

I totes respect this. We’ve done big foil ball drops at our ski house for the last several years with the kids…this year was the first we’ve missed in six.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:38:33am
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Sir John Barron  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:39:51am

re: #81 Eventual Carrion

Follow-up: What new regs did you put in place prior to taking office that caused this good year in air travel? Can you list them 1..n so we know what worked?

He was “very strict”. What further evidence do you need? ///

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darthstar  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:41:57am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:42:18am
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Old Liberal  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:43:02am

re: #85 Sir John Barron

He was “very strict”. What further evidence do you need? ///

Actually it may be more magical than that. You see, by REDUCING regulations he improved safety. All hail King Orange.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:44:10am

re: #87 The Vicious Babushka

Crooked Hillary Clinton’s top aid, Huma Abedin, has been accused of disregarding basic security protocols.

And as we all know, being accused means you go straight to jail.

///

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darthstar  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:44:25am

re: #85 Sir John Barron

He was “very strict”. What further evidence do you need? ///

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Sir John Barron  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:45:40am

re: #87 The Vicious Babushka

She put Classified Passwords into the hands of foreign agents. Remember sailors pictures on submarine?

Nope. Why don’t you enlighten us, Biff?

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darthstar  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:46:00am

We should be a little more considerate of the pressure on Trump right now. This is the first day in over a week where he hasn’t been able to go golfing.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:47:33am

re: #87 The Vicious Babushka

Remember sailors pictures on submarine? Jail! Deep State Justice Dept must finally act? Also on Comey & others

Jail, you mean that place your convicted aids are going after pleading guilty to conspiracy and lying to the FBI?

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wheat-dogg  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:47:43am

Shilling for my former student’s latest work of YA fiction.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:49:39am

re: #91 Sir John Barron

Nope. Why don’t you enlighten us, Biff?

He’s talking about this.

Former US Navy sailor Kristian Saucier— who was sent to prison for taking photos inside a nuclear submarine — has been released from prison and put under house arrest.

At issue for Saucier is that “punishment isn’t doled out evenly,” and people like Hillary Clinton, John Podesta and Huma Abedin have committed more serious acts.

“I’m not trying to minimize what I did, I made a mistake, but the photos I took were confidential, which the lowest tier of classification is,” he said. “Whereas the information they mishandled was top secret SEI which is the highest— and I got a year in prison and she was allowed to run for President and there doesn’t appear to be any kind of punishment for what they did.”

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Dave In Austin  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:49:45am
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Sir John Barron  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:50:43am

re: #95 The Vicious Babushka

“Whereas the information they mishandled was top secret SEI which is the highest

Is this in reference to the “email scandal” or something else?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:54:14am

re: #97 Sir John Barron

Is this in reference to the “email scandal” or something else?

Apparently this doofus believes that you can commit any crime and yell HILLARY CLINTON!!!! to avoid any consequences.

Got a speeding ticket? HILLARY CLINTON!!!!
Caught shoplifting at CVS? HILLARY CLINTON!!!!
Killed a Black kid selling magazines door to door? HILLARY CLINTON!!!!

It’s a one size fits all Get Out Of Jail Free Card!

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Sir John Barron  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:54:42am

re: #98 The Vicious Babushka

Apparently this doofus believes that you can commit any crime and yell HILLARY CLINTON!!!! to avoid any consequences.

Got a speeding ticket? HILLARY CLINTON!!!!
Caught shoplifting at CVS? HILLARY CLINTON!!!!
Killed a Black kid selling magazines door to door? HILLARY CLINTON!!!!

It’s a one size fits all Get Out Of Jail Free Card!

What’s Podesta’s supposed crime?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:55:43am

re: #99 Sir John Barron

What’s Podesta’s supposed crime?

Working for Clinton and opposing the right.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:55:46am

re: #99 Sir John Barron

What’s Podesta’s supposed crime?

PIZZAGATE & ACTUAL WITCHCRAFT!!!1!!1!!1

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:56:31am

I’m reading Rise and Fall of the Third Reich. There’s some real similarities to what’s going on but some differences too.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:01:00am

re: #101 The Vicious Babushka

PIZZAGATE & ACTUAL WITCHCRAFT!!!1!!1!!1

in a non-existent basement

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wheat-dogg  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:01:39am

re: #102 HappyWarrior

I’m reading Rise and Fall of the Third Reich. There’s some real similarities to what’s going on but some differences too.

Hitler was helped by a crushed economy and resentment against the rest of Europe. Trump inherited a robust economy, but took advantage of resentment by some whites of the gains made by non-whites, including the former president. Hitler was a monomaniac bent on ruling the world. Trump is a lazy, disorganized shlub who mostly likes golfing and making personal appearances.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:05:09am

re: #103 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

in a non-existent basement

IT A SEEKRIT BASEMENT THATS HIDDEN FROM EVRYBODY. YOU HAVE TO PUSH A SEEKRIT WALL PANEL THAT OPENS UP A SEEKRIT TRAP DOOR ONLY IF YOU KNOW TEH MAGICKS WORDS!!!11!!!

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:05:17am

re: #104 wheat-dogg

Hitler was helped by a crushed economy and resentment against the rest of Europe. Trump inherited a robust economy, but took advantage of resentment by some whites of the gains made by non-whites, including the former president. Hitler was a monomaniac bent on ruling the world. Trump is a lazy, disorganized shlub who mostly likes golfing and making personal appearances.

Yeah the Depression is a big difference here. But yes resentment that’s the big selling point for conmen through the ages. The other thing is that Hitler was more competent and intelligent.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:07:45am

re: #106 HappyWarrior

Yeah the Depression is a big difference here. But yes resentment that’s the big selling point for conmen through the ages. The other thing is that Hitler was more competent and intelligent.

Up to a point. His particular downfall, aside from the drug addiction, was his belief that only he knew all the answers. Trump shares some of that self-delusion of being the smartest guy in the room.

If Hitler had taken the advice of his generals, WWII would have had a much different outcome.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:10:26am

re: #107 wheat-dogg

Up to a point. His particular downfall, aside from the drug addiction, was his belief that only he knew all the answers. Trump shares some of that self-delusion of being the smartest guy in the room.

If Hitler had taken the advice of his generals, WWII would have had a much different outcome.

That is a key similarity too. It’s that, the resentments, & hostility towards democracy where they most intersect. I also continue to be amused by those who think the Nazis were leftists.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:10:35am

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:13:07am
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Sir John Barron  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:15:55am

re: #110 FormerDirtDart

“It has just been reported that we have achieved a glorious victory on the Eastern front, comrades. Soon Oceania will be victorious over its eternal enemies, Euroasia and Eastasia.”

//

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ObserverArt  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:17:01am

re: #69 Joe Bacon 🌹

In other words here come the Social Security, SSI, Medicare and Medicaid cuts…

re: #70 Decatur Deb

Feature bug.

They are playing with dynamite if they go after all three.

Their strongest voting base, the elderly, will fight them big-le’ and they can’t afford that voting wise.

So, they will most likely try to start at some lower age (anyone say, 50 right at the time the cuts start) and try to sell it as “you need to be saving for your own retirement in the private market…look how successful it is, so much better than the government running it.”

But Social Security is Social Security, and even the elders might balk at any change at all. They will be looking to their kids and grandkids futures.

It will be much the same with Medicare. Elders will say “Do Not Touch” and might try to protect that too for the future.

Medicaid might be their best hope, but even that has is now being expanded in red states. So…

Good luck GOP.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:18:14am

Extraordinary Politico article about how the world is dealing with having an ignorant psycho in the White House. For example, Trump seemed surprised that Latin American leaders didn’t want him to invade Venezuela!

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wheat-dogg  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:19:34am

re: #113 Big Beautiful Door

Extraordinary Politico article about how the world is dealing with having an ignorant psycho in the White House. For example, Trump seemed surprised that Latin American leaders didn’t want him to invade Venezuela!

Trump seems surprised being president requires knowledge. Film at 11.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:19:38am

re: #113 Big Beautiful Door

Extraordinary Politico article about how the world is dealing with having an ignorant psycho in the White House. For example, Trump seemed surprised that Latin American leaders didn’t want him to invade Venezuela!

Can’t Trumpy just say that he did invade already and restored peace and prosperity? Fox & Friends will report it as true.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:20:03am

re: #112 ObserverArt

They are playing with dynamite if they go after all three.

Their strongest voting base, the elderly, will fight them big-le’ and they can’t afford that voting wise.

So, they will most likely try to start at some lower age (anyone say, 50 right at the time the cuts start) and try to sell it as “you need to be saving for your own retirement in the private market…look how successful it is, so much better than the government running it.”

But Social Security is Social Security, and even the elders might balk at any change at all. They will be looking to their kids and grandkids futures.

It will be much the same with Medicare. Elders will say “Do Not Touch” and might try to protect that too for the future.

Medicaid might be their best hope, but even that has is now being expanded in red states. So…

Good luck GOP.

They couldn’t pass radical Medicaid reform with 52 Senators, and that was supposed to be the easy pickings of the three. No way they can touch Social Security and Medicare in an election year with only 51 Senators.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:20:13am

re: #110 FormerDirtDart

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I wouldn’t call that fact trivial but it’s teue, he wants credit for everything and responsibility for nothing.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:20:28am

Li’l Donny Flopsweat:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:20:33am

re: #107 wheat-dogg

Up to a point. His particular downfall, aside from the drug addiction, was his belief that only he knew all the answers. Trump shares some of that self-delusion of being the smartest guy in the room.

If Hitler had taken the advice of his generals, WWII would have had a much different outcome.

that is a historical misconception. Had Hitler listened to his generals, he would not have started the war in the first place. They knew that they could start a war and be successful, but never win it.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:20:41am

re: #115 Sir John Barron

Can’t Trumpy just say that he did invade already and restored peace and prosperity? Fox & Friends will report it as true.

We have always been friends with Eastasia.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:21:04am

re: #90 darthstar

Strict? I thought he was the deregulation president?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:21:29am

re: #113 Big Beautiful Door

Extraordinary Politico article about how the world is dealing with having an ignorant psycho in the White House. For example, Trump seemed surprised that Latin American leaders didn’t want him to invade Venezuela!

He’s such a fuckwit.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:21:54am

re: #110 FormerDirtDart

The most insecure man in America is desperate to take credit for any good news, no matter how trivia

He just offers this as proof that the Deep-State controlled ((MSM)) is out to smear and belittle him at every opportunity.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:21:59am

re: #121 GlutenFreeJesus

Strict? I thought he was the deregulation president?

It’s regulating the government, see?

//

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:22:28am

re: #119 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

that is a historical misconception. Had Hitler listened to his generals, he would not have started the war in the first place. They knew that they could start a war and be successful, but never win it.

That’s very true too but the point was that he didn’t listen to them once the war started.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:22:39am

re: #119 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

that is a historical misconception. Had Hitler listened to his generals, he would not have started the war in the first place. They knew that they could start a war and be successful, but never win it.

OK. I’ll defer to your more expert knowledge. I’ve got another WWII history tome on my Kindle, waiting for me to finish my US history tome.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:22:42am

re: #118 The Vicious Babushka

Li’l Donny Flopsweat:

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That’s why the NY Times obsessively reported on Hillary’s email “scandal”, because they were colluding with her.//

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:23:20am
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Sir John Barron  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:24:37am

re: #128 FormerDirtDart

Yeah but all the winning, though.

//

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:24:49am

re: #128 FormerDirtDart

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He’ll blow past 2,000 this week.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:25:08am

re: #128 FormerDirtDart

And that’s just the shit he says in public. It’s gotta be at least double if you count any comments made in private.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:25:14am

re: #125 HappyWarrior

That’s very true too but the point was that he didn’t listen to them once the war started.

That is true…”My generals don’t understand the economics of war!” was his excuse for intervening and directing forces away from Moscow to the industrial regions of the Ukraine in 1941.

But what Hitler did not understand was a War of Economics, and by declaring war on the USA, he lost that from the outset.

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makeitstop  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:25:31am

re: #115 Sir John Barron

Can’t Trumpy just say that he did invade already and restored peace and prosperity? Fox & Friends will report it as true.

Wait, that’s backwards. Get F&F to report it, then he’ll accept it as the truth.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:26:49am

Trump wouldn’t be gloating about airline regs if Obama had overhauled them.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:28:17am

re: #106 HappyWarrior

Yeah the Depression is a big difference here. But yes resentment that’s the big selling point for conmen through the ages. The other thing is that Hitler was more competent and intelligent.

That’s the biggest thing right there. Hitler was just as lazy as Trump, quite frankly - even in the cauldron of WW2, he was still living like some Bohemian artist.

On D-Day, the reason German forces didn’t deploy their available armor in the Normandy area (not that there was a huge amount of it) was because Hitler was asleep until about 10 A.M…….and no one dared to wake him up. That right there is flagrant irresponsibility from all involved.

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jeffreyw  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:32:22am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:34:48am

re: #135 Dr Lizardo

That’s the biggest thing right there. Hitler was just as lazy as Trump, quite frankly - even in the cauldron of WW2, he was still living like some Bohemian artist.

On D-Day, the reason German forces didn’t deploy their available armor in the Normandy area (not that there was a huge amount of it) was because Hitler was asleep until about 10 A.M…….and no one dared to wake him up. That right there is flagrant irresponsibility from all involved.

There is a lot of evidence that Hitler was addicted to opioids and received regular injections, especially before important events. His personal doctor was never allowed to be away from the Führer for any length of time. Hitler was probably just whacked on Eukodal when the Allies landed, and there is evidence that his famous and much-memed flip-out scene in the Bunker at the end of the war was related to withdrawal from his favorite drug cocktail.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:38:04am

re: #137 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There is a lot of evidence that Hitler was addicted to opioids and received regular injections, especially before important events. His personal doctor was never allowed to be away from the Führer for any length of time. Hitler was probably just whacked on Eudokal when the Allies landed, and there is evidence that his famous and much-memed flip-out scene in the Bunker at the end of the war was related to withdrawal from his favorite drug cocktail.

Running for the shelter
of mein Fuhrer’s little helper

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:39:51am

re: #138 Eventual Carrion

Running for the shelter
of mein Fuhrer’s little helper

Ha!

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:40:21am

There also was a lot of using the government for self enrichment by Hitler and his cronies too.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:40:51am

re: #135 Dr Lizardo

That’s the biggest thing right there. Hitler was just as lazy as Trump, quite frankly - even in the cauldron of WW2, he was still living like some Bohemian artist.

On D-Day, the reason German forces didn’t deploy their available armor in the Normandy area (not that there was a huge amount of it) was because Hitler was asleep until about 10 A.M…….and no one dared to wake him up. That right there is flagrant irresponsibility from all involved.

Yeah he was lazy. Knew that about D-Day.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:41:43am

re: #137 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Could well be; what’s interesting is that Hitler’s personal physician, Dr. Theodor Morell, was apparently a specialist in the treatment of STD’s.

Rather odd choice for a personal physician, but hey, maybe that’s just me.

BTW, both Himmler and Göring dismissed Morell as a “quack”. Looking at the drugs he was prescribing Hitler, I really can’t say I blame them.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:46:33am

re: #132 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That is true…”My generals don’t understand the economics of war!” was his excuse for intervening and directing forces away from Moscow to the industrial regions of the Ukraine in 1941.

But what Hitler did not understand was a War of Economics, and by declaring war on the USA, he lost that from the outset.

What if Hitler hadn’t declared war on the US after Pearl Harbor? Would the US have declared war on Germany and adopted the Europe First military strategy, or would we have focused on defeating Japan instead? If we had done that, I think the Soviet Union would still have defeated Germany, but without D-Day occurring almost all of Europe would’ve gone communist.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:46:53am

re: #136 jeffreyw

From the sound of it, the final product was hopped up a bit with that rebuild.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:50:37am

re: #142 Dr Lizardo

Could well be; what’s interesting is that Hitler’s personal physician, Dr. Theodor Morell, was apparently a specialist in the treatment of STD’s.

Rather odd choice for a personal physician, but hey, maybe that’s just me.

BTW, both Himmler and Göring dismissed Morell as a “quack”. Looking at the drugs he was prescribing Hitler, I really can’t say I blame them.

Isn’t tRumpery’s personal physicians specialty gastroenterology? So treating a rectum is right in his wheelhouse.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:51:11am

re: #143 Big Beautiful Door

What if Hitler hadn’t declared war on the US after Pearl Harbor? Would the US have declared war on Germany and adopted the Europe First military strategy, or would we have focused on defeating Japan instead? If we had done that, I think the Soviet Union would still have defeated Germany, but without D-Day occurring almost all of Europe would’ve gone communist.

The US was already de facto at war with Germany, guarding the shipping lanes and even engaging in military actions with U-boats in the Western Atlantic, and I am sure it would not have taken long for the active war to begin after Germany’s Axis partner Japan had attacked the US.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:52:59am

re: #140 HappyWarrior

There also was a lot of using the government for self enrichment by Hitler and his cronies too.

I can’t imagine would that would be like.

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dangerman  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:55:50am

currently:

YouTube

2018 will be better. don’t know why or how.
pace yerselves

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:56:18am

Because, we needed someone to come up with the first truly stupid idea for 2018

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nines09  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:57:14am

re: #144 wheat-dogg

From the sound of it, the final product was hopped up a bit with that rebuild.

That was a Super Beetle. And it was not a stock engine to begin with. It was a rebuild of a build. To my eyes. Not stock exhaust and carburetor. My wife owned one. To my minds eye, that’s what I recall.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:57:35am

Eeeeeewww. This guy was my Assemblyman for more years than I care to remember.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:58:13am

re: #145 Eventual Carrion

Isn’t tRumpery’s personal physicians specialty gastroenterology? So treating a rectum is right in his wheelhouse.

yes, Morrel’s big thing was therapy involving putting poop up other people’s asses…

))><(( forever

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wheat-dogg  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:00:33am

re: #150 nines09

That was a Super Beetle. And it was not a stock engine to begin with. It was a rebuild of a build.

Ah, OK. I could tell they were modding the engine, but without a commentary I wasn’t sure.

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jeffreyw  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:02:19am

re: #144 wheat-dogg

From the sound of it, the final product was hopped up a bit with that rebuild.

Yeah, I was disappointed that they didn’t finish with a trip to the strip.

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:02:28am
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wheat-dogg  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:02:55am

re: #151 Blind Frog Belly White

Eeeeeewww. This guy was my Assemblyman for more years than I care to remember.

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Similar to how Weinstein allegedly blackballed Mira Sorvino and another actress for not submitting to his advances.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:03:30am

re: #149 FormerDirtDart

Because, we needed someone to come up with the first truly stupid idea for 2018

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Bet some NBC Executive just crapped their pants a bit after reading that.

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nines09  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:03:59am

re: #153 wheat-dogg

Ah, OK. I could tell they were modding the engine, but without a commentary I wasn’t sure.

I added to my comment. Not entirely stock to begin with. Not sure if anything but bolt on add ons to begin with. That sound is from an improved exhaust. What I can tell is it’s not an automatic.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:04:44am

re: #154 jeffreyw

Yeah, I was disappointed that they didn’t finish with a trip to the strip.

Makes me want a Super Beetle now. I have not seen any kind of classic VW here in China. I suppose they were never imported, because who would drive them? Big bosses wouldn’t be caught dead in one, and the workers couldn’t afford them.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:05:37am

re: #146 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The US was already de facto at war with Germany, guarding the shipping lanes and even engaging in military actions with U-boats in the Western Atlantic, and I am sure it would not have taken long for the active war to begin after Germany’s Axis partner Japan had attacked the US.

Germany had, in fact, already sunk one of our destroyers, the Reuben James, in addition to a lot of our shipping. That is how dedicated we were as a nation to NOT getting into the war. Imagine if, today, ANY country intentionally sank one of our ships.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:05:59am

re: #136 jeffreyw

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wheat-dogg  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:06:05am

re: #158 nines09

I added to my comment. Not entirely stock to begin with. Not sure if anything but bolt on add ons to begin with. That sound is from an improved exhaust. What I can tell is it’s not an automatic.

Yeah. I tried driving VW’s automatic stickshift one time. It was weird. The four-speed manual was reliable as f.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:06:23am

re: #149 FormerDirtDart

Because, we needed someone to come up with the first truly stupid idea for 2018

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We can sit at home and watch the games with Russia. A solidarity move you might say.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:07:38am

re: #160 Blind Frog Belly White

Germany had, in fact, already sunk one of our destroyers, the Reuben James, in addition to a lot of our shipping. That is how dedicated we were as a nation to NOT getting into the war. Imagine if, today, ANY country intentionally sank one of our ships.

If was a Trump ship, it would be nuclear annihilation. Fortunately, shipping is one commercial enterprise he has never tried and failed in.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:07:57am

re: #159 wheat-dogg

Makes me want a Super Beetle now. I have not seen any kind of classic VW here in China. I suppose they were never imported, because who would drive them? Big bosses wouldn’t be caught dead in one, and the workers couldn’t afford them.

In all my years here in the Czech Republic, I’ve only ever seen a tiny handful of classic Beetle’s running around. There’s actually more Citroën 2CV’s here than Beetles.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:08:20am

re: #149 FormerDirtDart

Graham: U.S. should boycott Winter Olympics if North Korea is allowed to participate

Oh, OK.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:10:16am

re: #165 Dr Lizardo

In all my years here in the Czech Republic, I’ve only ever seen a tiny handful of classic Beetle’s running around. There’s actually more Citroën 2CV’s here than Beetles.

I saw a few Beetles in Japan last year. I have no idea how many are running around, though.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:10:57am

re: #165 Dr Lizardo

From watching a shit ton of Russian car crash videos, there are quite a few white Ladas running around!

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:12:07am

re: #149 FormerDirtDart

Because, we needed someone to come up with the first truly stupid idea for 2018

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It is clear that someone is terrified of the Russians releasing his emails.

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nines09  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:12:55am

re: #162 wheat-dogg

Yeah. I tried driving VW’s automatic stickshift one time. It was weird. The four-speed manual was reliable as f.

I owned an older, early 60’s bug when I was a teen in high school. The heater boxes rotted out, you froze to death without a gas heater, died in a head on crash, and the stock engine left something to be desired. But it was cheap to run, great in the snow, and was fun to drive. And you would never ever be able to pass a Caddy or muscle car. They would not allow it. Except in the snow as you waved to them as you flew on by.
Oh and one other big plus was in the city you could park where other cars could not fit. Huge bonus.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:14:32am

re: #146 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The US was already de facto at war with Germany, guarding the shipping lanes and even engaging in military actions with U-boats in the Western Atlantic, and I am sure it would not have taken long for the active war to begin after Germany’s Axis partner Japan had attacked the US.

I’m inclined to agree, but the smart move by Hitler after Pearl might’ve been to denounce Japan and declare his neutrality to see if domestic political pressure might’ve kept the US focused on Japan instead. Not that Hitler was making many smart decisions by then.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:17:33am

re: #170 nines09

I owned an older, early 60’s bug when I was a teen in high school. The heater boxes rotted out, you froze to death without a gas heater, died in a head on crash, and the stock engine left something to be desired. But it was cheap to run, great in the snow, and was fun to drive. And you would never ever be able to pass a Caddy or muscle car. They would not allow it. Except in the snow as you waved to them as you flew on by.

My dad used VW combis as work truck/family car from 1959 to ‘75 or so. So I grew up with VW bus in the garage. All you say is true, but the mofos were reliable. Our last bus was a ‘68 camper (no popup roof, though). Dad kept it running until rust finally got its way, and the sliding door would no longer stay in its rails. I think he sold it to a neighborhood kid in ‘75 who wanted to repair it.

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Jay C  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:18:25am

re: #135 Dr Lizardo

That’s the biggest thing right there. Hitler was just as lazy as Trump, quite frankly - even in the cauldron of WW2, he was still living like some Bohemian artist.

On D-Day, the reason German forces didn’t deploy their available armor in the Normandy area (not that there was a huge amount of it) was because Hitler was asleep until about 10 A.M…….and no one dared to wake him up. That right there is flagrant irresponsibility from all involved.

Heh. Re-fighting wars is always fun…
AFAIK, military historians have generally agreed with the assessment that the Germans’ problem with countering the Normandy invasion wasn’t so much that they didn’t deploy their armored units, but that they were deployed, for the most part, in the wrong places. Mainly because 1) Hitler assumed that Rommel ( to whom he had assigned the “Atlantic Wall” defenses) knew what he was about; and 2) they failed to adequately see through Allied deceptions about where the actual Overlord invasion sites would be. But of course, Hitler’s late-rising habits (drug consumption notwithstanding) didn’t help much.

It’s interesting, though that recent research has uncovered a good deal of info about how much the Germans relied on “performance-enhancing” pharmaceuticals during WWII: I wonder if Allied forces were speeded up as much?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:18:30am

I really hope Trump isn’t stupid enough to pull the U.S. from the Olympics.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:20:49am

re: #174 Eclectic Cyborg

I really hope Trump isn’t stupid enough to pull the U.S. from the Olympics.

China will win lots of medals if Russia and the USA are out. MCGA!

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:21:03am

re: #174 Eclectic Cyborg

I really hope Trump isn’t stupid enough to pull the U.S. from the Olympics.

We need an in-depth story about how the white working class feels about figure skating./

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:21:30am

re: #174 Eclectic Cyborg

I really hope Trump isn’t stupid enough to pull the U.S. from the Olympics.

CMIIW but the U.S. stayed out of the 1980 Olympics. They were protesting (teh irony it burns!) the USSR’s invasion of (get this) AFGHANISTAN!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:21:49am

re: #175 wheat-dogg

China will win lots of medals if Russia and the USA are out. MCGA!

Don’t forget Canada.

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nines09  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:22:41am

re: #172 wheat-dogg

My dad used VW combis as work truck/family car from 1959 to ‘75 or so. So I grew up with VW bus in the garage. All you say is true, but the mofos were reliable. Our last bus was a ‘68 camper (no popup roof, though). Dad kept it running until rust finally got its way, and the sliding door would no longer stay in its rails. I think he sold it to a neighborhood kid in ‘75 who wanted to repair it.

We called it “The Roach”. You could not kill it. Except the dolt I sold it to did that by forgetting to check the oil and threw a rod through the block. My wife bought a Super Beetle before we married, when I was going out with her. Had it about 6 years. Not impressed with it after about 20 K miles or so. Buggy. Needed a wrench on it all the time. Left her sit a few times.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:23:28am

re: #178 Eclectic Cyborg

Don’t forget Canada.

Oh, sure. I was being sarcastic to an extent. China’s forte is not in winter sports, but it fields a lot of athletes.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:24:55am

re: #136 jeffreyw

If you’re real good you can get this done overnite with 2 other friends and about 5 cases of beer….. Trust me.

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William Lewis  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:26:25am

re: #160 Blind Frog Belly White

Germany had, in fact, already sunk one of our destroyers, the Reuben James, in addition to a lot of our shipping. That is how dedicated we were as a nation to NOT getting into the war. Imagine if, today, ANY country intentionally sank one of our ships.

“America First” & Lindberg. < spit >

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danarchy  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:26:48am

re: #165 Dr Lizardo

In all my years here in the Czech Republic, I’ve only ever seen a tiny handful of classic Beetle’s running around. There’s actually more Citroën 2CV’s here than Beetles.

My college roommate had one that was basically held together with bondo and duct tape. The heater didn’t work, which wasn’t a big problem when he lived in Texas, but wasn’t ideal when he came to MA.

But he could drop the engine with the help of one strong friend and keep the damn thing running when most cars would have long ago given up the ghost.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:27:28am

re: #179 nines09

We called it “The Roach”. You could not kill it. Except the dolt I sold it to did that by forgetting to check the oil and threw a rod through the block. My wife bought a Super Beetle before we married, when I was going out with her. Had it about 6 years. Not impressed with it after about 20 K miles or so. Buggy. Needed a wrench on it all the time. Left her sit a few times.

Not checking the oil was how my ex killed my 1970 Dodge Dart. Engine seized on the interstate in Florence (Y’all), Kentucky.

I told her, check the oil before you leave, because the engine was using a lot and the oil pressure light had given up the ghost. She didn’t.

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Belafon  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:27:54am

re: #182 William Lewis

“America First” & Lindberg. < spit >

Imagine if Russia sank one of our ships today.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:29:13am

re: #185 Belafon

Maybe on Trump’s orders.

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jeffreyw  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:30:03am

re: #173 Jay C

Heh. Re-fighting wars is always fun…
AFAIK, military historians have generally agreed with the assessment that the Germans’ problem with countering the Normandy invasion wasn’t so much that they didn’t deploy their armored units, but that they were deployed, for the most part, in the wrong places. Mainly because 1) Hitler assumed that Rommel ( to whom he had assigned the “Atlantic Wall” defenses) knew what he was about; and 2) they failed to adequately see through Allied deceptions about where the actual Overlord invasion sites would be. But of course, Hitler’s late-rising habits (drug consumption notwithstanding) didn’t help much.

It’s interesting, though that recent research has uncovered a good deal of info about how much the Germans relied on “performance-enhancing” pharmaceuticals during WWII: I wonder if Allied forces were speeded up as much?

I read somewhere that the reason they didn’t crush the Allies at Dunkirk was because the tank units were all crashing from an amphetamine fueled dash across France.

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Amory Blaine  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:30:47am

Anyone have a link to a credible read on the Thule Society?

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William Lewis  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:31:01am

re: #185 Belafon

Imagine if Russia sank one of our ships today.

Depends on the circumstances, I imagine. I’ve read lots of CT’s about the loss of the USS Scorpion for example…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:32:17am

re: #170 nines09

I owned an older, early 60’s bug when I was a teen in high school. The heater boxes rotted out, you froze to death without a gas heater, died in a head on crash, and the stock engine left something to be desired. But it was cheap to run, great in the snow, and was fun to drive. And you would never ever be able to pass a Caddy or muscle car. They would not allow it. Except in the snow as you waved to them as you flew on by.

My brothers and I competed for Worst Car. Not intentionally, mind you!

Hawaii Bro purchased a series of Renaults, after bad experiences with two Citroens, including one that blew all of its expensive hydraulic fluid onto the ground one morning on a whim.

I started out with a 14 year old, rusty MGB that made every drive an adventure in roadside mechanics.

It wasn’t the worst.

That prize went to my Idiot Brother’s Simca 1000. That was a little rear-engined, watercooled boxy sedan with about 50 hp when it was new. It wasn’t new. It was like a Renault Dauphine, but worse.

On its maiden voyage, a trip out to Toledo to find an apartment for his upcoming stint in graduate school, half way across Pennsylvania, it decided it wasn’t watercooled. Or at least, had no water cooling it. We stopped at EVERY SINGLE REST STOP after that to top up the radiator.

The slightest hill was too much for it. On the PA turnpike, you had to put on your flashers if you weren’t going at least 45. So, half the time, our flashers were on.

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William Lewis  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:32:20am

re: #188 Amory Blaine

Anyone have a link to a credible read on the Thule Society?

The German occultists? There’s OK wiki article: en.wikipedia.org

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Dave In Austin  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:32:22am

re: #188 Amory Blaine

Anyone have a link to a credible read on the Thule Society?

google.com

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Dave In Austin  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:33:43am

re: #192 Dave In Austin

Nazi’s, Ugh…..

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:38:33am

re: #173 Jay C

It’s interesting, though that recent research has uncovered a good deal of info about how much the Germans relied on “performance-enhancing” pharmaceuticals during WWII: I wonder if Allied forces were speeded up as much?

That’s a good question; I wish my father was still around, as I could ask him. He was a WW2 US Navy figher pilot.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:38:34am

re: #171 Big Beautiful Door

I’m inclined to agree, but the smart move by Hitler after Pearl might’ve been to denounce Japan and declare his neutrality to see if domestic political pressure might’ve kept the US focused on Japan instead. Not that Hitler was making many smart decisions by then.

One of the weirdest things I ever heard from the Right was “Why did Roosevelt go to war with Germany? They didn’t do anything to us!” Not only is this not true (see reference to Reuben James above), but also Hitler declared war on us a few days after Pearl Harbor!

The bigger question is why that even comes up?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:39:58am

re: #188 Amory Blaine

Anyone have a link to a credible read on the Thule Society?

There is no Dana. Only Thule!

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:40:10am

re: #191 William Lewis

The German occultists? There’s OK wiki article: en.wikipedia.org

There’s one book I really want to get my hands on, just because it seems so utterly outlandish.

goodreads.com

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nines09  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:40:19am

re: #190 Blind Frog Belly White

I’m sure that was a fun ride to New Stanton.

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makeitstop  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:40:35am

re: #170 nines09

I owned an older, early 60’s bug when I was a teen in high school. The heater boxes rotted out, you froze to death without a gas heater, died in a head on crash, and the stock engine left something to be desired. But it was cheap to run, great in the snow, and was fun to drive. And you would never ever be able to pass a Caddy or muscle car. They would not allow it. Except in the snow as you waved to them as you flew on by.

My very first car was a ‘59 Bug, split rear window.

The previous owner had modified it with flared wheel wells and the tires from an Oldsmobile station wagon, and it had a 10” racing steering wheel.

When I went to take my driver’s test in it, the tight-asses at PA DMV gave me the Big Nope. I had to come back in my sister’s Datsun to take the test for my license.

That Bug had all the same problems you described. I learned how to work with fiberglass by rebuilding the heater ducts. Good times…

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:41:46am

re: #195 Blind Frog Belly White

One of the weirdest things I ever heard from the Right was “Why did Roosevelt go to war with Germany? They didn’t do anything to us!” Not only is this not true (see reference to Reuben James above), but also Hitler declared war on us a few days after Pearl Harbor!

The bigger question is why that even comes up?

Because Hitler is their hero.

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VegasGolfer  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:41:48am

The only thing this moron did this year aviation related was take the side of privatizing Air Traffic Control and that failed.
There hasn’t been an commercial air disaster in the US since 2009. I don’t remember Obama crowing about the system doing what it was designed to do.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:42:03am

re: #192 Dave In Austin

google.com

Pre-Nazis with lots of eventual NSDAP members.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:43:36am

re: #195 Blind Frog Belly White

One of the weirdest things I ever heard from the Right was “Why did Roosevelt go to war with Germany? They didn’t do anything to us!” Not only is this not true (see reference to Reuben James above), but also Hitler declared war on us a few days after Pearl Harbor!

The bigger question is why that even comes up?

It’s natural why we favored the Allies. I do prefer the more honest wingnuts though like the ones you bring up rather than the ones who contend the Nazis were leftists.

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Amory Blaine  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:44:29am

It seems to me it was an organization of entrenched ruling class offspring that built their own private army to defend their wealth using the working class as their bludgeon.

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ObserverArt  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:45:09am

re: #150 nines09

That was a Super Beetle. And it was not a stock engine to begin with. It was a rebuild of a build. To my eyes. Not stock exhaust and carburetor. My wife owned one. To my minds eye, that’s what I recall.

I think the carb looked like a Weber (Aftermarket). I would bet the cams were different too, and maybe it was also bored out a bit with oversized pistons in new piston sleeves. Probably got upwards of 90 to 115 HP.

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William Lewis  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:45:13am

re: #197 Dr Lizardo

There’s one book I really want to get my hands on, just because it seems so utterly outlandish.

goodreads.com

Just go listen to about half of the Norse based neo-pagans and you’ll get an earful of that shit. Especially any that favors terms like “Odinism”, “Wotanism”, and “Wodenism”. Pure Nazi with a pretense of religion.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:45:51am

It’s true that the Nazis had gay members and those who took the Socialist in National Socialist seriously but it’s also true that they were purged early on and that Hitler was repulsed by the German left. Oh and the Nazis hated Margaret Sanger. The attempt to call her a eugenics monster is absurd.

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Jay C  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:46:06am

re: #190 Blind Frog Belly White

It doesn’t seem fair, really: in the Worst Car Competition, the French seem to always have a built-in advantage. Mainly because they were “built” in France….
It takes a *special* kind of engineering to make an old MGB seem reliable: but they managed! Vive La France!!

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MsJ  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:46:31am

re: #122 HappyWarrior

He’s such a fuckwit.

Trump is a foxwit. Dumb as a stone and believes all the propaganda and conspiracy theories on the internet.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:47:59am

I’m just learning about the tenets of Nazism and laughing that wingnuts see Obama in this. This was a very xenophobic movement.

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ObserverArt  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:53:11am

re: #183 danarchy

My college roommate had one that was basically held together with bondo and duct tape. The heater didn’t work, which wasn’t a big problem when he lived in Texas, but wasn’t ideal when he came to MA.

But he could drop the engine with the help of one strong friend and keep the damn thing running when most cars would have long ago given up the ghost.

The beauty of the Beetle was everything can be replaced. The entire front suspension beam, the entire floor pan, fender, doors, etc. all could be bought and easily replaced. They were designed to do that. And they are simple to fix if you have the tools and the space.

I knew a guy that restored them. He loved people that had them and were worried about rust or a blown engine. He could talk them down in price and then he would take it to his garage and replaced all that needed replaced. He made a pretty good business redoing them and selling them.

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sagehen  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:53:44am

re: #143 Big Beautiful Door

What if Hitler hadn’t declared war on the US after Pearl Harbor? Would the US have declared war on Germany and adopted the Europe First military strategy, or would we have focused on defeating Japan instead? If we had done that, I think the Soviet Union would still have defeated Germany, but without D-Day occurring almost all of Europe would’ve gone communist.

The Soviets couldn’t have defeated Germany without Lend-Lease. Full stop. The valor of their troops wouldn’t have meant much without the planes and tanks and ammo we supplied.

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nines09  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:56:10am

re: #199 makeitstop

My very first car was a ‘59 Bug, split rear window.

The previous owner had modified it with flared wheel wells and the tires from an Oldsmobile station wagon, and it had a 10” racing steering wheel.

When I went to take my driver’s test in it, the tight-asses at PA DMV gave me the Big Nope. I had to come back in my sister’s Datsun to take the test for my license.

That Bug had all the same problems you described. I learned how to work with fiberglass by rebuilding the heater ducts. Good times…

My heater ducts were GONE when I got mine. It was a beater. It was beat. But if you had rubber and added oil and gas, it worked. It survived the old Schuylkill expressway until I sold it. Big bonus was you could park that sucker in the city much easier. That was when luxury liners ruled the roads. We would go down to Pop Edwards at 16th and Market (Dark Budweiser which I never saw anywhere else) and the original Khyber Pass which was a great place when it first opened.

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William Lewis  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:00:49am

re: #212 sagehen

The Soviets couldn’t have defeated Germany without Lend-Lease. Full stop. The valor of their troops wouldn’t have meant much without the planes and tanks and ammo we supplied.

Maybe. They still had far more resources (including population) than the Germans did. See “The Wages of Destruction” by Tooze where he argues that the Germans could not - full stop - ever win WWII because they did not have enough iron, coal & oil. Those resources were what they were desperate for when they invaded in June 41.

Did lend lease make the Soviet victory easier? Certainly. But once the great move east of the Urals was accomplished they were never in as harsh a situation as the English.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:03:27am
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:05:09am

re: #152 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

yes, Morrel’s big thing was therapy involving putting poop up other people’s asses…

He probably wasn’t doing it for the correct reasons, but fecal transplants are efficacious mechanism for controlling some diseases. The more we understand our about our gut biome, the more we realize that our bacterial overlords are disease initiators and disease controllers.

The dude was probably a quack, but dis on him for that one. Just ahead of his times…

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makeitstop  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:05:43am

re: #213 nines09

My heater ducts were GONE when I got mine. It was a beater. It was beat. But if you had rubber and added oil and gas, it worked. It survived the old Schuylkill expressway until I sold it. Big bonus was you could park that sucker in the city much easier. That was when luxury liners ruled the roads. We would go down to Pop Edwards at 16th and Market (Dark Budweiser which I never saw anywhere else) and the original Khyber Pass which was a great place when it first opened.

I used to be able to fill that thing up for under three bucks and still have gas left at the end of the week!

After that one, I got a Fastback. I drove it into the city one day to put up posters for a gig at Dobbs, and rode it a little too hard on the way home.

Aluminum carb. Smoke from the engine compartment. Lifted the lid and the carb was melted sideways. Fire department put it out and I junked it and bought an Olds Vista Cruiser for $150. Man, I could haul all kinds of gear in that sucker.

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sagehen  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:07:40am

re: #195 Blind Frog Belly White

One of the weirdest things I ever heard from the Right was “Why did Roosevelt go to war with Germany? They didn’t do anything to us!” Not only is this not true (see reference to Reuben James above), but also Hitler declared war on us a few days after Pearl Harbor!

The bigger question is why that even comes up?

For the same reason “the Civil War wasn’t about slavery!”

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makeitstop  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:08:40am

I’ll expect the name ‘Devin Nunes’ to appear frequently.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:12:14am

re: #219 makeitstop

I’ll expect the name ‘Devin Nunes’ to appear frequently.

House Intel Dems “are seriously exploring the possibility of issuing a minority report that details the degree to which Republicans tried to impede” a full Trump-Russia investigation

Best fix for that is to stop being the minority. 2018 needs to be the year of the banzai charge.

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Belafon  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:13:40am

re: #220 Decatur Deb

Best fix for that is to stop being the minority. 2018 needs to be the year of the banzai charge.

Until then, Republicans need to be called out.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:14:46am

re: #221 Belafon

Until then, Republicans need to be called out.

That’s good sport, better sport if they had a sense of shame.

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makeitstop  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:14:54am

re: #220 Decatur Deb

Best fix for that is to stop being the minority. 2018 needs to be the year of the banzai charge.

Yes, indeed.

re: #221 Belafon

Until then, Republicans need to be called out.

That, too.

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makeitstop  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:15:49am

Thread. Trump is failing, and he may be starting to realize it.

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nines09  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:16:18am

re: #217 makeitstop

I used to be able to fill that thing up for under three bucks and still have gas left at the end of the week!

After that one, I got a Fastback. I drove it into the city one day to put up posters for a gig at Dobbs, and rode it a little too hard on the way home.

Aluminum carb. Smoke from the engine compartment. Lifted the lid and the carb was melted sideways. Fire department put it out and I junked it and bought an Olds Vista Cruiser for $150. Man, I could haul all kinds of gear in that sucker.

I had to look up Fastback. Damn. Forgot all about them. Karmann Ghia was lusted after. Olds Vista Cruiser. That was one hell of a boat. My aunt had a 65 I think. It was as big as a hearse with skylights. You could move homes with it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:19:45am

re: #167 wheat-dogg

I saw a few Beetles in Japan last year. I have no idea how many are running around, though.

my step dad had big bushy white eyebrows and drove a red ‘72 beetle about town. I had quite a shock the other day when I saw an older fellow with white bushy eyebrows driving around in a red early 70’s beetle…I had to check the license plates to make sure I was not seeing a ghost

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makeitstop  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:20:00am

re: #222 Decatur Deb

That’s good sport, better sport if they had a sense of shame.

Their lack of shame notwithstanding, Democrats have gotten better at framing the dialog. On both ACA and the Tax Scam, they were able to convey that both were really bad ideas.

But you’re right re being the minority. They were able to get people to realize both were bad ideas but were unable to stop Republicans charging ahead with them.

We got one out of two, which is 50% better than I would have expected. People, it seems, are listening.

So we hammer them, whether or not they care.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:20:36am

re: #171 Big Beautiful Door

I’m inclined to agree, but the smart move by Hitler after Pearl might’ve been to denounce Japan and declare his neutrality to see if domestic political pressure might’ve kept the US focused on Japan instead. Not that Hitler was making many smart decisions by then.

He had already made enough threats against the Jewish industrialists arming and funding Great Britain

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:21:53am

re: #195 Blind Frog Belly White

One of the weirdest things I ever heard from the Right was “Why did Roosevelt go to war with Germany? They didn’t do anything to us!” Not only is this not true (see reference to Reuben James above), but also Hitler declared war on us a few days after Pearl Harbor!

The bigger question is why that even comes up?

Do not underestimate the power of Revisionism on weak minds

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makeitstop  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:21:58am

re: #225 nines09

I had to look up Fastback. Damn. Forgot all about them. Karmann Ghia was lusted after. Olds Vista Cruiser. That was one hell of a boat. My aunt had a 65 I think. It was as big as a hearse with skylights. You could move homes with it.

That was the one car where I had more car than gear. I could load my Deluxe with a Bandmaster cab (and later two of each) and our crappy PA and the bass rig and still have room for more stuff.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:22:32am

re: #201 VegasGolfer

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The only thing this moron did this year aviation related was take the side of privatizing Air Traffic Control and that failed.
There hasn’t been an commercial air disaster in the US since 2009. I don’t remember Obama crowing about the system doing what it was designed to do.

again, this appeared on Fox News and was re-tweeted within hours

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:27:32am

Fight for Mother Russia, get a puppy.

The Russian Armed Forces has unveiled its latest cutting-edge weapon in a New Year’s greetings video: cuddly puppies.

After a year of showing off its military might in Syria, the Defense Ministry has taken a softer approach in a one-minute video showing dozens of puppies sharing food and cuddling with each other. Older dogs are shown playing with unidentified officers.

In the Chinese calendar, 2018 is the year of the dog, so many Russians are using dogs in their holiday greetings this season.

Over 3,000 dogs are employed in the Russian armed forces.

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William Lewis  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:32:47am

For those of you who appreciate American Football, Sunday was the 50th anniversary of the infamous “Ice Bowl” between Green Bay and Dallas to determine who would advance to Super Bowl II. I just posted a page to a great story on the family that took the photos at that, and many other, Green Bay Packers games.

littlegreenfootballs.com

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:32:59am

re: #215 The Vicious Babushka

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Lol. Ryan, Cantor, & McCarthy literally planned to screw Obama on day 1. So sad this is the excuse they’re reduced to.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:34:11am

re: #233 William Lewis

For those of you who appreciate American Football, Sunday was the 50th anniversary of the infamous “Ice Bowl” between Green Bay and Dallas to determine who would advance to Super Bowl II. I just posted a page to a great story on the family that took the photos at that, and many other, Green Bay Packers games.

littlegreenfootballs.com

Man I can’t imagine being at that game. What a game that was.

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plansbandc  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:35:11am

re: #170 nines09

We had a ‘64 bug. It had a top speed of 45, and the turn signal didn’t work when the windshield wipers were on. The windshield froze on the inside, so whoever rode shotgun had to have a scraper and cloth. It was great in the snow though as long as your passenger keep scraping.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:35:46am

Happy New Year everyone. I hope everyone is well. I hope 2018 is a much better year than 2017.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:36:52am

re: #236 plansbandc

We had a ‘64 bug. It had a top speed of 45, and the turn signal didn’t work when the windshield wipers were on. The windshield froze on the inside, so whoever rode shotgun had to have a scraper and cloth. It was great in the snow though as long as your passenger keep scraping.

There were beetles in our family starting in the late 60’s and my mom and step dad drove early 70’s models. That is what I learned to drive in.

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plansbandc  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:41:00am

re: #238 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I learned to drive a stick in our infamous bug. My dad was the most impatient teacher ever, but I learned and still love driving stick.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:44:05am

I once tried to acquire a ‘64 Beatle, but George just wouldn’t get in the potato sack.

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makeitstop  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:45:06am

re: #240 The Ghost of a Flea

I once tried to acquire a ‘64 Beatle, but George just wouldn’t get in the potato sack.

Shoulda tried Ringo.

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wrenchwench  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:45:13am

re: #239 plansbandc

I learned to drive a stick in our infamous bug. My dad was the most impatient teacher ever, but I learned and still love driving stick.

I learned in a Volkswagen bus. Flunked the driving test twice, once for killing the engine with the clutch. Many years later, in another VW bus, the engine died when it broke a connecting rod. I don’t take personal credit for that one.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:45:27am

re: #238 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

re: #239 plansbandc

Learned on an Army buddy’s ‘66. On his first drive from home in Chicago to Ft. Knox, he was really impressed that the fuel gauge barely moved. It was less impressive when he found they had shipped it with an unvented fuel cap and the pump had sucked up the bottom of the fuel tank.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:45:44am

re: #241 makeitstop

Sir Ringo.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:45:47am

re: #215 The Vicious Babushka

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Makes me wonder if these shitheads were all under the same rock the last 9 years.

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nines09  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:46:47am

re: #236 plansbandc

We had a ‘64 bug. It had a top speed of 45, and the turn signal didn’t work when the windshield wipers were on. The windshield froze on the inside, so whoever rode shotgun had to have a scraper and cloth. It was great in the snow though as long as your passenger keep scraping.

You cracked your windows and learned to not breathe out straight. Exhaled into your chest, downward. And kept a can of De Icer for the really bad nights. Gloves were mandatory along with scarves and good winter socks/ boots. I would tell friends to bundle up or die.

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makeitstop  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:47:35am

re: #244 The Ghost of a Flea

Sir Ringo.

Not in ‘64. :)

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retired cynic  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:48:45am

re: #113 Big Beautiful Door

Extraordinary Politico article about how the world is dealing with having an ignorant psycho in the White House. For example, Trump seemed surprised that Latin American leaders didn’t want him to invade Venezuela!

Coming late to this, but noticed that the illustrations of grouped photos were done by Sean McCabe. Is that are Darth, or am I up in smoke?

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wrenchwench  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:50:21am

re: #246 nines09

You cracked your windows and learned to not breathe out straight. Exhaled into your chest, downward. And kept a can of De Icer for the really bad nights. Gloves were mandatory along with scarves and good winter socks/ boots. I would tell friends to bundle up or die.

Mant more years later, in another VW bus, Mr. w and I were moving north in a bad winter in the Northwest, and we had a campstove burning between the front seats. We were wearing t-shirts, getting stares on the freeway from the other VW drivers.

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plansbandc  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:51:28am

re: #246 nines09

You have described exactly what we experienced many a winter’s drive. Too funny!

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:54:00am

re: #247 makeitstop

Not in ‘64. :)

Yeah, but I wasn’t stealing him in ‘64.

(I’m not allowed access to Grover Cleveland’s Presidential Time Machine after…The Incident)

(I was also condemned to eternally use italics when referring to…The Incident. Even when just saying it aloud. The Secret Constitution has some pretty fucked up amendments; a surprising number of which related to typography.)

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Jay C  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:54:58am

Another ex-Beetle owner here: many years back, I downsized my automotive expectations into a ‘74 Super Beetle. I still miss the thing, despite its problems: Though not that old, it had been in a (needless to add, undisclosed) wreck, and poorly repaired: so the top and windows never fit or worked right, and the engine had the annoying (and amazingly un-diagnosable) problem of randomly cutting out. But I still regret having to sell it.

I eventually replaced it with the nearest thing to a Beetle I could find: a new ‘78 VW Rabbit: a great, simple car that saw me through years of rough driving. Including the worst wreck I was ever in (it reminded of the old Model-T joke: “I want to be buried in it, ‘cuz there was never a hole it couldn’t get me out of”)

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Dizzy  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:55:24am

I like old mechanical relics and I’m not really a ‘train’ person, but I thought this was very cool. From the Canadian Museum of Science and Technology. Early 20th century steam technology, if I remember correctly.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:57:59am

re: #239 plansbandc

I learned to drive a stick in our infamous bug. My dad was the most impatient teacher ever, but I learned and still love driving stick.

we even had an automatic beetle designed especially for the US market

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:58:43am

My sister’s Beetle in the late 70s was just like you guys describe. Windshield freezing, low power, good in snow. But the floor board rotted out. Eventually you could see the road passing under your feet, so she finally got rid of it.

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Skip Intro  Jan 2, 2018 • 10:00:52am

re: #201 VegasGolfer

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The only thing this moron did this year aviation related was take the side of privatizing Air Traffic Control and that failed.
There hasn’t been an commercial air disaster in the US since 2009. I don’t remember Obama crowing about the system doing what it was designed to do.

At some point Trump will start taking credit for the sun rising every day. Fox will cover it extensively, as will the NY Times.

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plansbandc  Jan 2, 2018 • 10:00:59am

re: #252 Jay C

My friend had a Rabbit that randomly honked. It liked to honk at the sketchiest people walking by. May have been the Rabbit version of Herbie.

I really do love VWs. Too bad about the terrible history and recent problems.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 2, 2018 • 10:01:41am

re: #253 Dizzy

My grandfather took me there often when I was a child. The train room was my favourite.

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nines09  Jan 2, 2018 • 10:02:28am

re: #249 wrenchwench

Mant more years later, in another VW bus, Mr. w and I were moving north in a bad winter in the Northwest, and we had a campstove burning between the front seats. We were wearing t-shirts, getting stares on the freeway from the other VW drivers.

Didn’t any roll down their window and scream “We know!” ?
I would see other beater Beetles and we would wave at one another like bikers used to. “Yeah! I know!”

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 2, 2018 • 10:03:43am

All I remember about Beetles is getting punched in the arm…

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Dizzy  Jan 2, 2018 • 10:04:05am

re: #258 Eclectic Cyborg

My grandfather took me there often when I was a child.

It just reopened after an extensive 3 year renovation. The Krazy Kitchen is still there, but the rest of the museum has changed dramatically. It’s extremely child friendly but still maintains interesting exhibits for everyone.

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Skip Intro  Jan 2, 2018 • 10:04:57am

You’ve been warned.

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dangerman  Jan 2, 2018 • 10:05:23am

re: #233 William Lewis

For those of you who appreciate American Football, Sunday was the 50th anniversary of the infamous “Ice Bowl” between Green Bay and Dallas to determine who would advance to Super Bowl II. I just posted a page to a great story on the family that took the photos at that, and many other, Green Bay Packers games.

littlegreenfootballs.com

fighting the other team and the elements - that was some football

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ObserverArt  Jan 2, 2018 • 10:07:46am

re: #221 Belafon

Until then, Republicans need to be called out.

re: #222 Decatur Deb

That’s good sport, better sport if they had a sense of shame.

I think as much Republican dirt that can be dug up and mentioned by the Dems and pushed in the media the better. It helps build a narrative about how much they protect Trump and obstruct justice. It needs to be made into them ignoring the U.S. Constitution for power all to screw over the middle and lower classes.

It should not be seen as sport, it is the type of facts the Republicans would and do use against Democrats. It is politics.

It might not touch the True Blue Trumper but anyone conservative with half a brain may pay attention and maybe cause them to vote Democrat.

It also might help get more Democrats out to vote.

The Democrats need to get tough and play tough. Keep it factual, sure, but keep pounding Republicans are un-American and all about power and money for the ultra-rich.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 2, 2018 • 10:10:22am

re: #261 Dizzy

Ah, the Krazy Kitchen! Good memories.

I remember back in the late 80s they had some kind of future tech room with an animatronic cloud thing with a TV screen in it that used to scare me silly.

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Dizzy  Jan 2, 2018 • 10:12:23am

re: #265 Eclectic Cyborg

LOL

Yeah, that existed until the renovations. It was severely dated and scared my kids too.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 2, 2018 • 10:15:09am

re: #212 sagehen

The Soviets couldn’t have defeated Germany without Lend-Lease. Full stop. The valor of their troops wouldn’t have meant much without the planes and tanks and ammo we supplied.

True, but lets assume that even if the US didn’t go to war with Germany, we would’ve provided lend lease to the Soviets anyway.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 2, 2018 • 10:16:30am

re: #266 Dizzy

LOL

Yeah, that existed until the renovations. It was severely dated and scared my kids too.

Do you remember what it was called? I’ve been trying to think of it for years now.

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makeitstop  Jan 2, 2018 • 10:23:37am
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Dizzy  Jan 2, 2018 • 10:23:54am

re: #268 Eclectic Cyborg

I don’t remember if it even had a name since we walked by it as quickly as we could.

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nines09  Jan 2, 2018 • 10:24:20am

re: #249 wrenchwench

Mant more years later, in another VW bus, Mr. w and I were moving north in a bad winter in the Northwest, and we had a campstove burning between the front seats. We were wearing t-shirts, getting stares on the freeway from the other VW drivers.

I went to high school with a guy whose father was the Minister/Pastor of a church in my neighborhood. They had a house bay side on Long Beach Island. On the water. Fancied himself a surfer. They had some money. Beautiful place. Before all the money bought up everything. We would go down a few times every winter. His lived there and worked at the fish store at Ship Bottom. Back then there was very little on LBI. And very little on Rt 72 from Philly. Halfway there in the middle of nowhere my Roach quit and me and my friend sat in stunned silence freezing and starting to freak on a winter night for about an hour before a car passed and we flagged it down. It was just luck it was going east. Older man and woman drove us to Willie’s house. Called a girl friend up next day, and went back and the sucker started up. We joked that it was trying to kill us.
BBL

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makeitstop  Jan 2, 2018 • 10:46:25am

Geez, what in the world would be causing this? Surge in requests for Nazi, KKK ink prompts Maine tattoo shop to say ‘stop asking’

It’s always been the policy of Rockland-based Siren Song Tattoo that the artists who work there won’t tattoo messages of hate, including Nazi and white supremacist imagery.

But it’s only recently that the business’s owners, Alison and Justin Wheeler, felt they needed to publicly state that they’re not in the business of making hateful sentiments permanent with body ink.

“So we wouldn’t normally do this but there have been an alarming amount of people wanting Nazi/KKK tattoos this year! So we are declaring now that we do not create images or recreate images that pertain to those parties and like parties,” a Dec. 23 post on the shop’s Facebook page read. “Get over it and stop asking us, we ain’t about that shit.”

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 10:48:01am

re: #272 makeitstop

Geez, what in the world would be causing this? Surge in requests for Nazi, KKK ink prompts Maine tattoo shop to say ‘stop asking’

Agh I believe it. Goddamn I hate the Nazis and Klan.

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Old Liberal  Jan 2, 2018 • 10:49:05am

re: #272 makeitstop

Geez, what in the world would be causing this? Surge in requests for Nazi, KKK ink prompts Maine tattoo shop to say ‘stop asking’

Watch how this becomes the counter-example to refusing to bake a cake for same sex weddings.

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Belafon  Jan 2, 2018 • 10:50:17am

re: #272 makeitstop

“The only place we’ll tattoo Nazi symbols is your forehead.”

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Jan 2, 2018 • 10:51:09am

re: #220 Decatur Deb

Best fix for that is to stop being the minority. 2018 needs to be the year of the banzai charge.

Isn’t a banzai charge an act of last-resort desperation? I recommend a creeping barrage, inexorably rolling over the majority line, shattering resistance in its passing.

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Belafon  Jan 2, 2018 • 10:51:28am

re: #274 Old Liberal

Watch how this becomes the counter-example to refusing to bake a cake for same sex weddings.

Probably. But since they won’t do Nazi tattoos for anyone, it’s the same argument as not selling bacon.

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Belafon  Jan 2, 2018 • 10:52:20am

re: #273 HappyWarrior

Agh I believe it. Goddamn I hate the Nazis and Klan.

2018 will also be the year we make these people go back to looking for Kyle.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 10:52:33am

re: #274 Old Liberal

Watch how this becomes the counter-example to refusing to bake a cake for same sex weddings.

Why not? They already claim it’s like forcing Muslim or Jewish bakers to give people ham.

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electrotek  Jan 2, 2018 • 10:52:52am

re: #272 makeitstop

Geez, what in the world would be causing this? Surge in requests for Nazi, KKK ink prompts Maine tattoo shop to say ‘stop asking’

They should also add Crusader tats while they’re at it.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 10:53:10am

re: #278 Belafon

2018 will also be the year we make these people go back to looking for Kyle.

I hope they never find him. Kyle’s a dickbag.

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makeitstop  Jan 2, 2018 • 10:54:02am

re: #275 Belafon

“The only place we’ll tattoo Nazi symbols is your forehead.”

‘Or your scrotum. You man enough for that, Nazi Boy?’ LOL

I’d be really tempted to get them in the chair and do a great big Hello Kitty instead.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 10:56:37am

White supremacists ruined Celtic Crosses too. I never got one tattooed though I do keep one on my desk along with a Liberty Bell, Pocket Constitution, bicentennial plate of Washington crossing the Delaware that belonged to my dad’s parents, and a painted horseshoe.

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electrotek  Jan 2, 2018 • 10:57:16am

re: #283 HappyWarrior

White supremacists ruined Celtic Crosses too. I never got one tattooed though I do keep one on my desk along with a Liberty Bell, Pocket Constitution, bicentennial plate of Washington crossing the Delaware that belonged to my dad’s parents, and a painted horseshoe.

They’ve also ruined the Southern Cross after the Cronulla Beach riots too.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 2, 2018 • 10:57:31am

I just got a Tweet from an outraged Trumporrhoid demanding to know why I blocked the other Trumporrhoid in my comment here 215 and WHY U NOT DEBATE TEH ISHOOZ U COMMUNIST OBOMBA-LOVER HILLSHILL U AFRAID TO DEBATE WHY U BLOCK LIBTARD???

Its profile included a gab dot ai so I blocked it too.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 2, 2018 • 10:57:37am

re: #276 Grunthos the Flatulent

Isn’t a banzai charge an act of last-resort desperation? I recommend a creeping barrage, inexorably rolling over the majority line, shattering resistance in its passing.

Desperation? Look around. If we don’t roll over them this time, we don’t come back.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 2, 2018 • 10:59:05am

re: #272 makeitstop

They can still get their Nazi tattoos in prison. Hopefully while in for life.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 10:59:16am

re: #284 electrotek

They’ve also ruined the Southern Cross after the Cronulla Beach riots too.

Not familiar with that one. Not surprised tho.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 11:00:15am

re: #285 The Vicious Babushka

I just got a Tweet from an outraged Trumporrhoid demanding to know why I blocked the other Trumporrhoid in my comment here 215 and WHY U NOT DEBATE TEH ISHOOZ U COMMUNIST OBOMBA-LOVER HILLSHILL U AFRAID TO DEBATE WHY U BLOCK LIBTARD???

Its profile included a gab dot ai so I blocked it too.

It must be sad seeing Trump exposed as an utter failure despite majorities in both Houses.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 2, 2018 • 11:00:29am
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electrotek  Jan 2, 2018 • 11:01:16am

re: #288 HappyWarrior

Not familiar with that one. Not surprised tho.

The stars on the Australian flag? That’s the Southern Cross.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 2, 2018 • 11:03:15am

re: #290 FormerDirtDart

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“Judicial Watch” for those who don’t know, is a batshit birther site that used to track the cost of OBAMA’S GOLF VACATIONS!!!11!! but does not extend the same courtesy to Trump (of tracking his golf vacations)

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 11:06:15am

re: #291 electrotek

The stars on the Australian flag? That’s the Southern Cross.

Ah! Okay. Know it by sight then just not name.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 11:06:48am

re: #290 FormerDirtDart

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Klayman is busy with what’s important I see.

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sagehen  Jan 2, 2018 • 11:06:51am

re: #292 The Vicious Babushka

“Judicial Watch” for those who don’t know, is a batshit birther site that used to track the cost of OBAMA’S GOLF VACATIONS!!!11!! but does not extend the same courtesy to Trump (of tracking his golf vacations)

They also ran TV ads and even sponsored a convention about how offended they were that a Dem senate voted down a bunch of Bush’s judicial nominees. They were conspicuously silent when McConnell refused to even allow votes on Obama’s nominees.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 11:07:48am

re: #295 sagehen

They also ran TV ads and even sponsored a convention about how offended they were that a Dem senate voted down a bunch of Bush’s judicial nominees. They were conspicuously silent when McConnell refused to even allow votes on Obama’s nominees.

Because they’ve partisan hacks and frauds.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 2, 2018 • 11:09:05am

re: #282 makeitstop

Turns out Hello Kitty Nazi products are actually a thing, albeit unlicensed I’m sure.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 2, 2018 • 11:09:47am

BECAUSE IF YOU DON’T REMEMBER HISTORY JUST MAKE SHIT UP!!!11!!

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 11:10:20am

re: #297 Eclectic Cyborg

Turns out Hello Kitty Nazi products are actually a thing, albeit unlicensed I’m sure.

After hearing about white supremacy in the Furry community, nothing shocks me at all about where the Nazi shits have their noses.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 2, 2018 • 11:12:12am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 11:12:29am

re: #298 The Vicious Babushka

BECAUSE IF YOU DON’T REMEMBER HISTORY JUST MAKE SHIT UP!!!11!!

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They could you know remember the people in their state white and black who stood by the nation in its darkest hour rather than continuing to perpetuate a fiction.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 11:12:42am

re: #300 FormerDirtDart

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Bye Asshole.

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meteor  Jan 2, 2018 • 11:13:35am

re: #273 HappyWarrior

Me too.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 2, 2018 • 11:17:55am

re: #300 FormerDirtDart

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Mitt will be an improvement…

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 11:18:28am

re: #303 meteor

Me too.

It makes me so sick to see their revival among young people.

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Interesting Times  Jan 2, 2018 • 11:19:13am

re: #300 FormerDirtDart

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Ah, so he finally got around to reading a certain Salt Lake Tribune article.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 2, 2018 • 11:20:02am

re: #300 FormerDirtDart

@NBCPolitics
BREAKING: Utah Sen. Orrin Hatch announces he will retire from the U.S. Senate after his term.

Evan McMullin should run for the seat. Though, the party will probably push for Huntsman or Romney

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Sir John Barron  Jan 2, 2018 • 11:20:52am

re: #306 Interesting Times

Ah, so he finally got around to reading a certain Salt Lake Tribune article.

Maybe Orrin can claim credit for the VERY STRICT commercial airline Trump rules and call it a day.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 2, 2018 • 11:21:07am

re: #300 FormerDirtDart

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He finally got past the headline of that editorial and read the article I guess.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 11:21:08am

re: #307 FormerDirtDart

Evan McMullin should run for the seat. Though, the party will probably push for Huntsman or Romney

He should. My hope was that he’d run for the seat that Chaffetz vacated. I like McMullin. He’s a conservative but not a jerk.

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sagehen  Jan 2, 2018 • 11:23:54am

re: #304 Joe Bacon 🌹

Mitt will be an improvement…

I’d prefer Evan McMullen.

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TedStriker  Jan 2, 2018 • 11:24:56am

re: #275 Belafon

“The only place we’ll tattoo Nazi symbols is your forehead.”

“It was good enough for that psycho Charlie Manson, it’s good enough for you too!”

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 2, 2018 • 11:25:10am

Rep. Bill Shuster (R-Pa.)

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Belafon  Jan 2, 2018 • 11:27:10am

re: #313 FormerDirtDart

Rep. Bill Shuster (R-Pa.)

Now I’m starting to wonder who’s paying these people a lot of money to get out so that their replacements can say “I didn’t take your Medicare away.”

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 2, 2018 • 11:28:19am

re: #310 HappyWarrior

He should. My hope was that he’d run for the seat that Chaffetz vacated. I like McMullin. He’s a conservative but not a jerk.

I hope the Democrats can nominate a good candidate. I mean, if they can win in Alabama, its worth a shot!

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 2, 2018 • 11:29:28am

re: #314 Belafon

Now I’m starting to wonder who’s paying these people a lot of money to get out so that their replacements can say “I didn’t take your Medicare away.”

The fewer GOP incumbents are running, the easier it will be for the Democrats to win the mid-term elections.

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sagehen  Jan 2, 2018 • 11:33:48am

re: #314 Belafon

Now I’m starting to wonder who’s paying these people a lot of money to get out so that their replacements can say “I didn’t take your Medicare away.”

More likely, it’s who’s offering them well-paid no-show jobs to reward them for the tax bill.

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Belafon  Jan 2, 2018 • 11:33:52am

re: #316 Big Beautiful Door

The fewer GOP incumbents are running, the easier it will be for the Democrats to win the mid-term elections.

I think that, too, but there are a LOT of Republicans dropping out.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 2, 2018 • 11:34:20am

Oh well…

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Jay C  Jan 2, 2018 • 11:38:20am

re: #314 Belafon

Now I’m starting to wonder who’s paying these people a lot of money to get out so that their replacements can say “I didn’t take your Medicare away.”

Yeah, but the challengers to those “replacements” are probably going to be running on a platform of “I’ll give you your Medicare back”; I wonder which approach will be more of a winner

Annnnnd: on to next thread~!

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 11:39:57am

re: #315 Big Beautiful Door

I hope the Democrats can nominate a good candidate. I mean, if they can win in Alabama, its worth a shot!

Oh absolutely.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 11:40:56am

re: #319 FormerDirtDart

Oh well…

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I have no hope for Romney to do the right thing in Office.

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MsJ  Jan 2, 2018 • 11:54:42am

re: #304 Joe Bacon 🌹

Mitt will be an improvement…

Assumption. No evidence of that whatsoever. He will be what the Republicans are or he won’t get any committees or have any power.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 2, 2018 • 12:22:48pm

re: #272 makeitstop

“So we wouldn’t normally do this but there have been an alarming amount of people wanting Nazi/KKK tattoos this year! So we are declaring now that we do not create images or recreate images that pertain to those parties and like parties,” a Dec. 23 post on the shop’s Facebook page read. “Get over it and stop asking us, we ain’t about that shit.”

how far do we have to go into the comments section before we encounter the argument “It’s illegal to turn down customers asking for a gay wedding cake, so why is is it legal to turn down one asking for a Nazi tattoo?”


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