Republicans Are Relentlessly Working to Subvert the Trump/Russia Investigation

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Greg Sargent has a good summation of the latest developments in the Republican Party’s outrageous ongoing effort to subvert the investigation into Trump’s ties to Russia: How bad is the Republican coverup on Trump and Russia? We may soon find out.

In an interview with me, Rep. Jim Himes of Connecticut — the No. 2 Democrat on the House intel committee — said that Democrats are seriously exploring the possibility of issuing a minority report that details (among other things) the degree to which Republicans tried to impede a full investigation, should that end up happening. In this scenario, the public would at least have a clear sense of just how far Republicans went to protect President Trump and his top officials from accountability.

“It’s in both the Democrats’ and the Republicans’ interests to … write a report based on a common set of facts,” Himes told me. “It would be a tragedy if the report has a minority section that says, ‘Look, we wanted to talk to these two dozen witnesses and weren’t able to do so.’”

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Charles Johnson  Jan 2, 2018 • 11:31:45am
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Belafon  Jan 2, 2018 • 11:34:22am

re: #1 Charles Johnson

Not even for his taco salad?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 2, 2018 • 11:36:19am

Fox News manages to not mention the Colorado shooter was a neo-nazi Alt-Righter. Of course all the commenters are certain that the shooter is a “Libtard” a “Leftist” a “Mexican” a “Dreamer” etc. etc.

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mmmirele  Jan 2, 2018 • 11:36:20am

It’s a daily thing with my congressman Andy Biggs (R-Trump’s Small Intestine, but should be Arizona) to post something trashing Mueller to Facebook. He also goes on Fox News to babble as well. Biggs gets a lot of pushback and mockery on this along with his unwillingness to hold town halls.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 2, 2018 • 11:37:42am

But, but, Candidate Trump told me NYC was a crime ridden hellscape without stop-and-frisk

“… Major crime in New York City has continued to decline almost across the board in the four years of the de Blasio administration, to the lowest rates since New York City began keeping extensive records on crime in the early 1960s. Crime is literally off the charts — the low end of the charts. To compare today’s crime rate to even that of ten years ago is to observe a breathtaking decline. …”

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 2, 2018 • 11:39:05am
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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 2, 2018 • 11:39:10am

re: #5 FormerDirtDart

But, but, Candidate Trump told me NYC was a crime ridden hellscape without stop-and-frisk

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You made me click on a National Review article!

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Sir John Barron  Jan 2, 2018 • 11:40:29am

re: #3 The Vicious Babushka

Colorado gunman livestreamed ‘ambush-style’ shooting that killed deputy, report says foxnews.com

— Fox News

At least Trump’s VERY STRICT rules have prevented commercial airline fatalities in 2017.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 11:42:00am

re: #1 Charles Johnson

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You’re delusional dumbass. Hispanics and DACA activists can’t wait to vote you out.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 11:42:45am

re: #5 FormerDirtDart

But, but, Candidate Trump told me NYC was a crime ridden hellscape without stop-and-frisk

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NRO can still piss up a rope though.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 2, 2018 • 11:44:34am

re: #10 HappyWarrior

NRO can still piss up a rope though.

They’re also running with a TRUMP DOSSIER SCANDAL, which they’ll probably also have to retract later.

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jaunte  Jan 2, 2018 • 11:45:09am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 11:45:18am

re: #6 FormerDirtDart

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Seriously. Fucking double standard bs.im not disappointed to see Hatch go but I can’t stand Romney.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 11:45:45am

re: #12 jaunte

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He always projects.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 2, 2018 • 11:45:47am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 2, 2018 • 11:47:18am

Hitting on something from the previous thread regarding the uptick of Nazi support among youth: I think part of the problem is their connections to the war are becoming more distant.

I remember my grandfather telling me stories about fighting Nazis during his time in the Navy and realized at an early age what sick bastards they are.

Now, most WWII vets have passed away and we’ve entered an age where Hitler and Nazis are romanticized on a lot of levels, like it’s just a normal nostalgia trip and not one of the most evil, fucked up regimes there ever was.

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jaunte  Jan 2, 2018 • 11:48:45am

re: #14 HappyWarrior

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 11:49:00am

re: #15 Barefoot Grin

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Obviously a Democrat, //

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 11:49:43am

re: #17 jaunte

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JFC I can’t stand Iran’s leaders but holy fuck lady, look at your boss and his family.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 2, 2018 • 11:49:54am

re: #17 jaunte

By definition if Trump does it, it isn’t corruption.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 2, 2018 • 11:50:46am

re: #10 HappyWarrior

NRO can still piss up a rope though.

I have to give them props this once though. Even though it kills them that cops harassing innocent African-Americans isn’t an effective crime fighting tactic, and they despise de Blasio, they didn’t ignore the fact. I bet you anything that Breitbart and Fox News have said nothing about NYC’s plummeting crime stats, or if they have mentioned it have given Trump the credit.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 11:51:05am

re: #16 Eclectic Cyborg

Hitting on something from the previous thread regarding the uptick of Nazi support among youth: I think part of the problem is their connections to the war are becoming more distant.

I remember my grandfather telling me stories about fighting Nazis during his time in the Navy and realized at an early age what sick bastards they are.

Now, most WWII vets have passed away and we’ve entered an age where Hitler and Nazis are romanticized on a lot of levels, like it’s just a normal nostalgia trip and not one of the most evil, fucked up regimes there ever was.

I had the same theory. My grandfather was too young for WWII but his brothers and brother in law were in WWII. I’m also descended from people who were persecuted by the Nazis.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 11:51:30am

re: #21 Big Beautiful Door

I have to give them props this once though. Even though it kills them that cops harassing innocent African-Americans isn’t an effective crime fighting tactic, and they despise de Blasio, they didn’t ignore the fact. I bet you anything that Breitbart and Fox News have said nothing about NYC’s plummeting crime stats, or if they have mentioned it have given rump the credit.

True true.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 2, 2018 • 11:54:17am

re: #7 Big Beautiful Door

You made me click on a National Review article!

Frankly, I enjoyed the temper tantrum last paragraph
He had to do it, or he would have hated himself for the rest of the week

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 2, 2018 • 11:55:01am

re: #22 HappyWarrior

I had the same theory. My grandfather was too young for WWII but his brothers and brother in law were in WWII. I’m also descended from people who were persecuted by the Nazis.

My mother got bombed by Nazis during the Blitz, so that’s one of many reasons why I despise them.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 2, 2018 • 11:55:47am

re: #24 FormerDirtDart

Frankly, I enjoyed the temper tantrum last paragraph
He had to do it, or he would have hated himself for the rest of the week

That was a sweet bit of wingnut whining.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 2, 2018 • 11:58:22am

re: #5 FormerDirtDart

Also called gentrification.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 2, 2018 • 11:59:20am
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MsJ  Jan 2, 2018 • 11:59:47am

I am starting to think that many of these retiring Republican’s are hoping that retiring will keep them from being exposed in TrumpRussia.

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William Lewis  Jan 2, 2018 • 12:02:00pm

re: #28 FormerDirtDart

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And that is the kind of danger that I was worried about when the fucking Puritopians forced Franken out. No, she won’t carry downtown Minneapolis but she will carry the whole of the rural state & likely many of the suburbs that fear minorities and if Dems don’t bust a hump like Georga to GOTV, she can easily win with that.

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VegasGolfer  Jan 2, 2018 • 12:04:11pm

re: #28 FormerDirtDart

If god tells her to.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 2, 2018 • 12:04:15pm

re: #30 William Lewis

And that is the kind of danger that I was worried about when the fucking Puritopians forced Franken out. No, she won’t carry downtown Minneapolis but she will carry the whole of the rural state & likely many of the suburbs that fear minorities and if Dems don’t bust a hump like Georga to GOTV, she can easily win with that.

God fucking damn it. The return of the original batshit craycray (R-Mars). The way the state is gerrymandered poses a real risk that she might get elected.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 2, 2018 • 12:05:01pm

re: #32 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

God fucking damn it. The return of the original batshit craycray (R-Mars). The way the state is gerrymandered poses a real risk that she might get elected.

If we could just get Trump to endorse her…

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jaunte  Jan 2, 2018 • 12:06:08pm

He’s developed “much closer relationships” with GOP drones who would have voted his way regardless.

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danarchy  Jan 2, 2018 • 12:07:07pm

re: #32 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

God fucking damn it. The return of the original batshit craycray (R-Mars). The way the state is gerrymandered poses a real risk that she might get elected.

Gerrymandering shouldn’t have any impact on a statewide race. Luckily there is no state level equivalent of the Electoral College.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 2, 2018 • 12:07:32pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 2, 2018 • 12:07:33pm

Oh look another little Trumporrhoid with a gab dot ai in their profile Tweeting at me, scolding me for blocking their friends.

(Opens up this li’l Trumporrhoid’s timeline)

Oh what the fresh fuck is this? It’s not a Trumporrhoid it’s a BERNER. But it’s on gat dot ai and thinks HURR HURR HILLARY WOULD BE WORSER THEN TRUMP!!!11!!!!.

BLOCKED. Unblocked, then BLOCKED again.

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sagehen  Jan 2, 2018 • 12:09:16pm

re: #32 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

God fucking damn it. The return of the original batshit craycray (R-Mars). The way the state is gerrymandered poses a real risk that she might get elected.

For the umptyumph time… gerrymandering matters for congressional races, and the state legislature, but not Senate or Governor.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 2, 2018 • 12:09:38pm

Leading from…the golf course?

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Belafon  Jan 2, 2018 • 12:09:55pm

re: #32 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

God fucking damn it. The return of the original batshit craycray (R-Mars). The way the state is gerrymandered poses a real risk that she might get elected.

It’s a senate seat. Gerrymandering won’t directly affect it.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 2, 2018 • 12:14:06pm

LOLWUT

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wrenchwench  Jan 2, 2018 • 12:15:13pm

re: #27 Shropshire Slasher

Also called gentrification.

Gentrification follows crime drops, it doesn’t cause them.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 2, 2018 • 12:15:26pm

re: #42 The Vicious Babushka

Damn. She put more spin on that than a knuckle curve.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 2, 2018 • 12:19:57pm
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Targetpractice  Jan 2, 2018 • 12:23:48pm

re: #21 Big Beautiful Door

I have to give them props this once though. Even though it kills them that cops harassing innocent African-Americans isn’t an effective crime fighting tactic, and they despise de Blasio, they didn’t ignore the fact. I bet you anything that Breitbart and Fox News have said nothing about NYC’s plummeting crime stats, or if they have mentioned it have given Trump the credit.

I wouldn’t, considering their first article out of the gates was a “New York is safer because it’s become whiter” bit that still urged the return of “Stop and Frisk” and “Broken Windows” (i.e. “proactive policing”).

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 2, 2018 • 12:24:10pm

re: #43 wrenchwench

Rudy did do a good job.

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ObserverArt  Jan 2, 2018 • 12:24:12pm

So I saw in the last thread that Hatch is retiring and some other Republican Congressman is also.

I bet we hear of others in the next few months too. It really does seem they know it might be tougher to hold on in the future after their “tax reform” and attempts to kill healthcare.

The other factor probably figuring in is the Freedom Caucus idiots making it tough on any Republican that doesn’t vote their way. In other words it’s getting harder to be an asshole when you have massive assholes trying to run the party.

What we need is something that starts to blow the Freedom Caucus up. Might be dead girl, live boy time.

One thing for sure, we are seeing GOP retirements like never before. Most Congressmen hold their seats until they can no longer due to health, or they die if they can still get elected. Still getting elected seems to be a problem now.

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wrenchwench  Jan 2, 2018 • 12:24:56pm

re: #46 Charles Johnson

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The tweet Joy is replying to:

In theory, this would give Romney some latitude to defy Trump.

This tweet’s about to get ratio-ed by people saying in practice, he won’t. Which… might be right. But I don’t think it’s a foregone conclusion either way.

Jan L. A. Van de Snepscheut:

In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in practice, there is.

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Targetpractice  Jan 2, 2018 • 12:26:00pm

re: #48 Shropshire Slasher

Rudy did do a good job.

Rudy did jack shit, crime rates across the nation peaked in the 90s and then began declining. What he did was throw people in jail cells for the high crimes of selling cigarettes and public urination.

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wrenchwench  Jan 2, 2018 • 12:26:03pm

re: #48 Shropshire Slasher

Rudy did do a good job.

In theory, maybe.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jan 2, 2018 • 12:26:26pm

Trump Tweets Complaint He Isn’t Being Given Credit For Being “Longest Serving American President”

also cites his success in getting the sun to rise “every single day” since he was elected

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Belafon  Jan 2, 2018 • 12:26:37pm

re: #48 Shropshire Slasher

Rudy did do a good job.

Lead paint had more of an impact that Rudy.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 2, 2018 • 12:28:02pm

re: #32 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

God fucking damn it. The return of the original batshit craycray (R-Mars). The way the state is gerrymandered poses a real risk that she might get elected.

US Senate elections are statewide, so there is no gerrymandering.

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ObserverArt  Jan 2, 2018 • 12:29:01pm

re: #48 Shropshire Slasher

Rudy did do a good job.

Why not give us some reason you think that way instead of just throwing out another stink bomb.

I don’t like the smell…

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Targetpractice  Jan 2, 2018 • 12:29:46pm

The cruel part of me would actually laugh its ass off if Bachmann won Franken’s seat, as it would give those who demanded his resignation exactly what they wanted: A woman elected to his seat.

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ipsos  Jan 2, 2018 • 12:30:17pm

re: #55 Big Beautiful Door

US Senate elections are statewide, so there is no gerrymandering.

Which is, I think, exactly why the Seventeenthers want to end direct Senate elections, so they can let gerrymandered state legislatures make the appointments.

It’s a long, long game they’re playing.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 2, 2018 • 12:30:35pm

re: #47 Targetpractice

I wouldn’t, considering their first article out of the gates was a “New York is safer because it’s become whiter” bit that still urged the return of “Stop and Frisk” and “Broken Windows” (i.e. “proactive policing”).

You are right; props withdrawn.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 2, 2018 • 12:31:07pm

re: #57 Targetpractice

The cruel part of me would actually laugh its ass off if Bachmann won Franken’s seat, as it would give those who demanded his resignation exactly what they wanted: A woman elected to his seat.

And for those of us who didn’t want him to resign in the first place? Am I just supposed to live with the consequences because a bunch of people are fucking stupid?

Well, I suppose that’s exactly what’s happening with Trump, so the answer to that question is obviously yes.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 2, 2018 • 12:31:31pm

re: #58 ipsos

Which is, I think, exactly why the Seventeenthers want to end direct Senate elections, so they can let gerrymandered state legislatures make the appointments.

It’s a long, long game they’re playing.

Which is why we really need Justice Kennedy to vote the right way on the Wisconsin case to make gerrymandering unconstitutional.

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makeitstop  Jan 2, 2018 • 12:32:43pm

re: #48 Shropshire Slasher

Rudy did do a good job.

Rudy was two mayors ago.

Two Democratic mayors ago.

Rudy gets zero credit for being anything other than an asshole who capitalized on this city’s tragedy.

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Targetpractice  Jan 2, 2018 • 12:33:27pm

re: #60 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

And for those of us who didn’t want him to resign in the first place? Am I just supposed to live with the consequences because a bunch of people are fucking stupid?

Well, I suppose that’s exactly what’s happening with Trump, so the answer to that question is obviously yes.

You forget, our opinion ceased to matter because we were defending a “sexual predator.”

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ipsos  Jan 2, 2018 • 12:33:55pm

re: #61 Big Beautiful Door

Which is why we really need Justice Kennedy to vote the right way on the Wisconsin case to make gerrymandering unconstitutional.

Indeed.

I mean… even New York is gerrymandered to the point that Republicans have kept control of the state Senate. And there’s no way they’d have appointed Schumer or Gillibrand.

Senator Betsy McCaughey? Senator Jeannine Pirro? Senator Peter King?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 2, 2018 • 12:34:44pm

re: #63 Targetpractice

You forget, our opinion ceased to matter because we were defending a “sexual predator.”

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Yeah, but Franken was my Senator. If you fuckwits stick me with the crazy-eyed bint from the outer reaches of the Solar System, I am the one who has to listen to her speeches and fight the urge to kill myself.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 2, 2018 • 12:36:05pm

re: #22 HappyWarrior

I had the same theory. My grandfather was too young for WWII but his brothers and brother in law were in WWII. I’m also descended from people who were persecuted by the Nazis.

And just like Confederate revisionism, we have National Socialist revisionism: starting from “not everything they did was totally evil” they wind up with “they were just decent next-door-neighbor types!”

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Citizen K  Jan 2, 2018 • 12:39:46pm
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Jay C  Jan 2, 2018 • 12:40:32pm

re: #62 makeitstop

Rudy was two mayors ago.

Two Democratic mayors ago.

Rudy gets zero credit for being anything other than an asshole who capitalized on this city’s tragedy.

Well, technically three-term Mayor Mike Bloomberg was a Republican (basically the “left wing” of the GOP all by his lonesome) - but in practice, indistinguishable (policy-wise) from a Dem.

But yeah, agreed about Rudy! What a putz…..

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Targetpractice  Jan 2, 2018 • 12:40:39pm

re: #65 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Yeah, but Franken was my Senator. If you fuckwits stick me with the crazy-eyed bint from the outer reaches of the Solar System, I am the one who has to listen to her speeches and fight the urge to kill myself.

Hey now, what was important was that the national party could show how “serious” it was about the #MeToo movement by running Al out of office, and then…dropping the subject as soon as Doug Jones was elected and moving on.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 12:42:25pm

Reminder but Romney hired Kobach.

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Interesting Times  Jan 2, 2018 • 12:42:26pm

Ha:

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darthstar  Jan 2, 2018 • 12:43:42pm
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jan 2, 2018 • 12:44:20pm

re: #66 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And just like Confederate revisionism, we have National Socialist revisionism: starting from “not everything they did was totally evil” they wind up with “they were just decent next-door-neighbor types!”

i had a wingnut singing the praises of mussolini to me the other day

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wrenchwench  Jan 2, 2018 • 12:44:36pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 2, 2018 • 12:44:44pm

re: #73 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

i had a wingnut singing the praises of mussolini to me the other day

Well, he did make the trains run on time.////

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darthstar  Jan 2, 2018 • 12:45:59pm

I have thoughts on Romney. They consist of three words:
Fuck
That
Asshole

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 2, 2018 • 12:46:32pm

re: #74 wrenchwench

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I remember that picture and the smug “I own this guy’s balls” smirk on Trump’s face. That needs to be on every headline regarding Romney from now until eternity.

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makeitstop  Jan 2, 2018 • 12:47:35pm

re: #68 Jay C

Well, technically three-term Mayor Mike Bloomberg was a Republican (basically the “left wing” of the GOP all by his lonesome) - but in practice, indistinguishable (policy-wise) from a Dem.

But yeah, agreed about Rudy! What a putz…..

True. He did leave the Republican party in ‘07, though.

As for Rudy - I wouldn’t piss on that son of a bitch if he was on fire. Cadaverous piece of crap.

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 2, 2018 • 12:48:34pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 2, 2018 • 12:49:27pm

re: #73 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

i had a wingnut singing the praises of mussolini to me the other day

he made the trains run on time!

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 12:50:01pm

re: #79 Ace-o-aces

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I think he has a home there from his Olympic days. That said, fuck him. He’s nothing but Trump pretending to be civilized while cultivating the same bigotry.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 12:50:24pm

re: #73 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

i had a wingnut singing the praises of mussolini to me the other day

But fascism was liberal, I thought.//

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William Lewis  Jan 2, 2018 • 12:50:59pm

re: #73 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

i had a wingnut singing the praises of mussolini to me the other day

Been hearing that crap for years. “See, fascism works! It isn’t inherently racist/violent/etc” while utterly ignoring how that government was barely functional most of it’s existence and depended on violence and their own form of racism (as well as going along with Germany’s demands for antisemitism).

The worst version of this came from Pournelle/Niven’s novel “Inferno” which whitewashed Mussolini in the usual pro-fascist Pournelle manner. It was interesting theologically in a way that fit my sense of Universalism but the final twist was difficult at best.

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 2, 2018 • 12:51:38pm

re: #81 HappyWarrior

I think he has a home there from his Olympic days. That said, fuck him. He’s nothing but Trump pretending to be civilized while cultivating the same bigotry.

I think Mitt has claimed about half the US as his “home state”.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 2, 2018 • 12:51:40pm

re: #72 darthstar

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Oh boy, he hasn’t reached the point of holding conversations with his hand puppet yet. Aren’t we lucky.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 12:52:26pm

re: #84 Ace-o-aces

I think Mitt has claimed about half the US as his “home state”.

Him and Scott Brown.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 12:53:18pm

re: #85 Eventual Carrion

Oh boy, he hasn’t reached the point of holding conversations with his hand puppet yet. Aren’t we lucky.

I for one welcome our new sock puppet overlords.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 2, 2018 • 12:54:55pm

I have to admit one thing: I’m glad to see the press actually firing back at Sarah Huckabee-Sanders over how her boss is a totally deranged psychopath who is shirking his duties on the golf course whilst plotting the ruin and destruction of our country for the sake of his ego and getting rid of everything good the black guy ever did. They aren’t completely in the tank for Trump.

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makeitstop  Jan 2, 2018 • 12:56:34pm

re: #88 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I have to admit one thing: I’m glad to see the press actually firing back at Sarah Huckabee-Sanders over how her boss is a totally deranged psychopath who is shirking his duties on the golf course whilst plotting the ruin and destruction of our country for the sake of his ego and getting rid of everything good the black guy ever did. They aren’t completely in the tank for Trump.

With exceptions. (Looking at you, Haberman and Schmidt.)

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makeitstop  Jan 2, 2018 • 1:02:25pm

I’m guessing Preznit The Sun Shines Out Of My Ass isn’t going to mention this.

The U.S. dollar started 2018 on the wrong foot, hitting its lowest point since mid-September.
In fact, the greenback lost value for almost all of 2017. It plummeted despite factors that typically drive up the dollar, like the passage of tax cuts and an overall healthy U.S. economy.

But compared to the world’s most traded currencies, the dollar fell nearly 10% last year. It’s down 2% since December 15, according to the ICE dollar index.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 2, 2018 • 1:03:51pm

re: #88 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

What needs to happen now is for the press to call her a LIAR when she lies, and to call Trump a LIAR when he lies. No more “falsehoods,” LIES.

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Kragar  Jan 2, 2018 • 1:04:02pm
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Interesting Times  Jan 2, 2018 • 1:05:08pm

re: #92 Kragar

That sign would be totally accurate if you add the words “miners’ graves.”

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nines09  Jan 2, 2018 • 1:05:11pm

Ocean City Md has warning for Wednesday night into Thursday. Boston is up. New York nothing yet. With coldest temps and high winds behind it.

Monster storm to blast East Coast before polar vortex uncorks tremendous cold late this week

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jan 2, 2018 • 1:05:36pm

re: #83 William Lewis

Been hearing that crap for years. “See, fascism works! It isn’t inherently racist/violent/etc” while utterly ignoring how that government was barely functional most of it’s existence and depended on violence and their own form of racism (as well as going along with Germany’s demands for antisemitism).

The worst version of this came from Pournelle/Niven’s novel “Inferno” which whitewashed Mussolini in the usual pro-fascist Pournelle manner. It was interesting theologically in a way that fit my sense of Universalism but the final twist was difficult at best.

I don’t love Pournelle either, but he portrayed Mussolini as a penitent, not a good guy — and the only claim he made was that M. wasn’t as bad as Hitler in the beginning, though he became so.

And after all, he was In hell.

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Interesting Times  Jan 2, 2018 • 1:07:04pm

Good question:

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makeitstop  Jan 2, 2018 • 1:11:12pm

re: #94 nines09

Ocean City Md has warning for Wednesday night into Thursday. Boston is up. New York nothing yet. With coldest temps and high winds behind it.

Monster storm to blast East Coast before polar vortex uncorks tremendous cold late this week

Local news out here on the Island is calling for 6-10 inches on Thursday. To which I respond, ‘Fuuuuuuuuuck that noise.’

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nines09  Jan 2, 2018 • 1:13:27pm

re: #91 Ace Rothstein

What needs to happen now is for the press to call her a LIAR when she lies, and to call Trump a LIAR when he lies. No more “falsehoods,” LIES.

If they did that, they wouldn’t be able to go sit and get lied to in person. You have to grovel to get in to begin with. Huckabee is worse than Trump. She’s the liar that covers for a liar. So religious. What’s that about false witness again? What a family.

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William Lewis  Jan 2, 2018 • 1:14:01pm

re: #95 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

I don’t love Pournelle either, but he portrayed Mussolini as a penitent, not a good guy — and the only claim he made was that M. wasn’t as bad as Hitler in the beginning, though he became so.

And after all, he was In hell.

Still came off as a whitewash for someone who should have been frozen in the bottom with the other 2. Poison gas in Africa forex?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 2, 2018 • 1:15:36pm

Drivin’ in a Winter Wonderland!

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nines09  Jan 2, 2018 • 1:15:53pm

re: #97 makeitstop

Local news out here on the Island is calling for 6-10 inches on Thursday. To which I respond, ‘Fuuuuuuuuuck that noise.’

It just came up on my roamings on the innertubes. First I heard. I guess the cold air from the polar cap will keep it from killing the coast completely. This could change in a heartbeat I think. I saw movies like this.

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makeitstop  Jan 2, 2018 • 1:18:43pm

re: #101 nines09

It just came up on my roamings on the innertubes. First I heard. I guess the cold air from the polar cap will keep it from killing the coast completely. This could change in a heartbeat I think. I saw movies like this.

My wife is calling it ‘The Snowenning.’ To be followed by ‘The Freezening.’

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nines09  Jan 2, 2018 • 1:20:20pm

re: #102 makeitstop

My wife is calling it ‘The Snowenning.’ To be followed by ‘The Freezening.’

Looks great. Can’t wait. Send out the tuna boats.

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makeitstop  Jan 2, 2018 • 1:28:59pm
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Targetpractice  Jan 2, 2018 • 1:31:47pm

re: #97 makeitstop

Local news out here on the Island is calling for 6-10 inches on Thursday. To which I respond, ‘Fuuuuuuuuuck that noise.’

They’re calling for 3”-5” here overnight Wednesday. What shift do I work that day? The overnight shift. So I’m planning to pack a bag, because I might not make it home Thursday morning.

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sagehen  Jan 2, 2018 • 1:33:46pm

re: #104 makeitstop

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BeachDem  Jan 2, 2018 • 1:35:02pm

re: #51 Targetpractice

Rudy did jack shit, crime rates across the nation peaked in the 90s and then began declining. What he did was throw people in jail cells for the high crimes of selling cigarettes and public urination.

And on that note—this is some serious bullshit in another locale.

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 2, 2018 • 1:36:54pm
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allegro  Jan 2, 2018 • 1:40:10pm

We’ve reached a balmy 33 degrees today in Houston. Looks like it will be our high for the day. Well weather high. My incidental high (not a downside but it is only 3:30 in the afternoon) is sipping hot spiced cider with rum that warms from the bones out to try to achieve a semblance of warmth. Buddy is buried under afghans and the kits are cuddled in front of the electric fireplace.

And we’ve got it easy here in the sub-tropics. My best to y’all who are REALLY cold.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 2, 2018 • 1:42:10pm

re: #109 allegro

We’ve reached a balmy 33 degrees today in Houston. Looks like it will be our high for the day. Well weather high. My incidental high (not a downside but it is only 3:30 in the afternoon) is sipping hot spiced cider with rum that warms from the bones out to try to achieve a semblance of warmth. Buddy is buried under afghans and the kits are cuddled in front of the electric fireplace.

And we’ve got it easy here in the sub-tropics. My best to y’all who are REALLY cold.

Hey, it actually got warm here today! It was up to 12 degrees F (-11 degrees C) this afternoon! Compared to previous temperatures whose highs were still below 0 degrees F (-18 degrees C)…

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makeitstop  Jan 2, 2018 • 1:44:18pm
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William Lewis  Jan 2, 2018 • 1:44:44pm

re: #108 Ace-o-aces

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Uhm… I think Chelsea is a good looking woman but Hooters is not what I’d think of in respect to her … O_O

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William Lewis  Jan 2, 2018 • 1:46:11pm

re: #110 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Hey, it actually got warm here today! It was up to 12 degrees F (-11 degrees C) this afternoon! Compared to previous temperatures whose highs were still below 0 degrees F (-18 degrees C)…

Up to 10F here. Still not enough for the truck but I’ve got a heater on order so that’ll hopefully not take too long to get here.

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 2, 2018 • 1:46:39pm

re: #112 William Lewis

Uhm… I think Chelsea is a good looking woman but Hooters is not what I’d think of in respect to her … O_O

Go back and read the whole thread and it makes more sense.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 2, 2018 • 1:47:10pm

re: #113 William Lewis

Up to 10F here. Still not enough for the truck but I’ve got a heater on order so that’ll hopefully not take too long to get here.

Oh good! I hadn’t thought about the truck. Mrs. Fish’s car was much more responsive when I just got out to start it a few minutes ago.

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William Lewis  Jan 2, 2018 • 1:48:06pm

re: #114 Ace-o-aces

Go back and read the whole thread and it makes more sense.

Ah. Gotcha. Thank you.

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makeitstop  Jan 2, 2018 • 1:53:17pm

So, my wife got me a new Fitbit for Christmas, after I lost my first one somewhere. The model is the Charge 2, which does a lot of cool stuff. Cool, I thought, I can better track my fitness with a better version of the Fitbit.

Went to set it up on my laptop. Didn’t work.
Went to set it up on a second laptop. Didn’t work.
Ordered and received another laptop. Wouldn’t set up on that.
Tried setting it up on my Kindle. Nope.
Got the app for my phone. My model Fitbit is not listed in the app.

If this wasn’t a present from my wife, I’m pretty sure I’d have taken a hammer to it by now.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 2, 2018 • 1:54:54pm

re: #117 makeitstop

If this wasn’t a present from my wife, I’m pretty sure I’d have taken a hammer to it by now.

I can think of nothing else I would ever do with a fitbit

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wrenchwench  Jan 2, 2018 • 1:55:27pm

re: #117 makeitstop

[…]

If this wasn’t a present from my wife, I’m pretty sure I’d have taken a hammer to it by now.

Upper body exercise!

/bike shop joke when the floor pump is in use

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Decatur Deb  Jan 2, 2018 • 1:55:49pm

Well, that’s embarrassing.

The Jewish lawyer famously shouted out by Roy Moore’s wife voted for Doug Jones

theweek.com

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makeitstop  Jan 2, 2018 • 1:58:00pm

re: #118 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I can think of nothing else I would ever do with a fitbit

I had a Flex, which worked great. This one will. Not. Sync. With. Anything.

I might just suggest returning it and getting something else.

My wife says she’ll ‘look at it’ tonight while I’m watching the Knicks. She is a certified IT super-genius, so if she can’t get it happening, it’ll go back.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 2:02:13pm

re: #120 Decatur Deb

Well, that’s embarrassing.

The Jewish lawyer famously shouted out by Roy Moore’s wife voted for Doug Jones

theweek.com

That’s great.

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Belafon  Jan 2, 2018 • 2:02:20pm

re: #121 makeitstop

I had a Flex, which worked great. This one will. Not. Sync. With. Anything.

I might just suggest returning it and getting something else.

My wife says she’ll ‘look at it’ tonight while I’m watching the Knicks. She is a certified IT super-genius, so if she can’t get it happening, it’ll go back.

Are you passed the point where you get offended if she figures something like that out in 3 minutes? Lot’s of people I know ask for help and then get a bit defensive if I figure it out.

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Belafon  Jan 2, 2018 • 2:03:27pm

re: #120 Decatur Deb

Well, that’s embarrassing.

The Jewish lawyer famously shouted out by Roy Moore’s wife voted for Doug Jones

theweek.com

That smile they gave after saying that was almost exactly the same smile Romney gave after his Benghazi press conference in 2012.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 2:04:35pm

re: #124 Belafon

That smile they gave after saying that was almost exactly the same smile Romney gave after his Benghazi press conference in 2012.

I’ll never respect Romney because of that. Romney really thought he could exploit those deaths into the WH.

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Jay C  Jan 2, 2018 • 2:05:17pm

re: #97 makeitstop

Local news out here on the Island is calling for 6-10 inches on Thursday. To which I respond, ‘Fuuuuuuuuuck that noise.’

Thanks! I went to check out the forecast for W. MA and it’s basically more deep-freeze Thurs/Fri (snow, single-digit temps, 20+ mph winds). I’m definitely doing all my shopping tomorrow: spending the rest of the week (probably) sweatered up and surfing LGF all day.

re: #120 Decatur Deb

Well, that’s embarrassing.

The Jewish lawyer famously shouted out by Roy Moore’s wife voted for Doug Jones

Surprised they haven’t griped about the “Democratic shtetl” to go with their “Democratic plantation” BS……

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makeitstop  Jan 2, 2018 • 2:16:55pm

re: #123 Belafon

Are you passed the point where you get offended if she figures something like that out in 3 minutes? Lot’s of people I know ask for help and then get a bit defensive if I figure it out.

I passed that point a long time ago.

Not only is my wife the pretty one, she’s also the smart one. I’m still wondering how I pulled that shit off. :)

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William Lewis  Jan 2, 2018 • 2:18:31pm

Halle-fucking-leua! It started! I do really think it just had to warm up enough - with the secondary effect of being somewhat low fuel wise possibly freezing the fuel line enough to starve it. So I have it running and I’ll see what I can do about gas money.

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darthstar  Jan 2, 2018 • 2:19:19pm
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 2, 2018 • 2:19:40pm

re: #117 makeitstop

Is the Charge 2 not listing in the app under: + Set Up a Device? At the #2 position, under Ionic? iOS or Android?

Also, sometime forgetting the Charge 2 in your Bluetooth setting helps the phone get on board with setting the Charge 2 up.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 2, 2018 • 2:21:49pm

re: #128 William Lewis

Halle-fucking-leua! It started! I do really think it just had to warm up enough - with the secondary effect of being somewhat low fuel wise possibly freezing the fuel line enough to starve it. So I have it running and I’ll see what I can do about gas money.

Yessssss! Now keep some fuel stabilizer in it (helps with the condensation if you don’t keep the tank full) and slap that oil pan heater on, you should be set to go.

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makeitstop  Jan 2, 2018 • 2:22:11pm

re: #130 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Is the Charge 2 not listing in the app under: + Set Up a Device? At the #2 position, under Ionic? iOS or Android?

Also, sometime forgetting the Charge 2 in your Bluetooth setting helps the phone get on board with setting the Charge 2 up.

Nope. Seeing Charge and Charge HR, no Charge 2.

Windows phone. My wife suspects that since they’ve announced the demise of the Windows phone, there will be no update forthcoming for the app.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 2:23:23pm

re: #129 darthstar

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Well Trump is pretty much Reagan if Reagan were even dumber and bigoted.

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makeitstop  Jan 2, 2018 • 2:25:23pm

re: #133 HappyWarrior

Well Trump is pretty much Reagan if Reagan were even dumber and bigoted.

Pretty sure Reagan was pretty bigoted. He just knew how to hide it.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 2:27:02pm

re: #134 makeitstop

Pretty sure Reagan was pretty bigoted. He just knew how to hide it.

Oh I think Reagan was bigoted, I meant that Trump is more bigoted but correct Reagan was a bigot even by 1980’s standards but he got away with it because he did it with a smile.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 2, 2018 • 2:27:13pm

re: #132 makeitstop

Oh. That does sounds like an outdated app issue, then. No idea of a work around for that, sorry.

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Pineapple Pizzagate  Jan 2, 2018 • 2:29:47pm

re: #48 Shropshire Slasher

Rudy did do a good job.

He certainly did a bang-up job as a lobbyist for the makers of Oxycontin.

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VegasGolfer  Jan 2, 2018 • 2:31:52pm

re: #132 makeitstop

Just go to the dark side and get an apple watch

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makeitstop  Jan 2, 2018 • 2:32:00pm

re: #136 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Oh. That does sounds like an outdated app issue, then. No idea of a work around for that, sorry.

I went through the Fitbit community and followed what they said would fix it. No joy.

Thanks for the suggestion, though. I think it’ll ultimately be returned. If I can’t get it to sync on a phone, a Kindle and three laptops, it just might be a buggy Fitbit.

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ObserverArt  Jan 2, 2018 • 2:36:27pm

re: #86 HappyWarrior

Him and Scott Brown.

Carpetbaggers.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jan 2, 2018 • 2:41:20pm

re: #99 William Lewis

Still came off as a whitewash for someone who should have been frozen in the bottom with the other 2. Poison gas in Africa forex?

I’d say that pretty well all all the “guests” in eight or nine could be in either. (“There are no MANY places to put people like you.”) And starting him in nine would have the spoiled the throwing-him-back scene.)

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darthstar  Jan 2, 2018 • 2:42:46pm

Stupid fucker is trying to get war jump-started before the next indictments.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jan 2, 2018 • 2:44:01pm

re: #109 allegro

We’ve reached a balmy 33 degrees today in Houston. Looks like it will be our high for the day. Well weather high. My incidental high (not a downside but it is only 3:30 in the afternoon) is sipping hot spiced cider with rum that warms from the bones out to try to achieve a semblance of warmth. Buddy is buried under afghans and the kits are cuddled in front of the electric fireplace.

And we’ve got it easy here in the sub-tropics. My best to y’all who are REALLY cold.

But WHAT HAPPENED TO THE BONE?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 2, 2018 • 2:44:29pm

re: #142 darthstar

how has he taken Jerusalem “off the table”?

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makeitstop  Jan 2, 2018 • 2:44:49pm

WTF

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 2, 2018 • 2:45:14pm

re: #144 Backwoods_Sleuth

how has he taken Jerusalem “off the table”?

By unilaterally declaring it the capital of Israel, he thinks he’s removed it as a bargaining chip for the people commonly referred to as Palestinians to hold over the Israelis’ heads.

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darthstar  Jan 2, 2018 • 2:45:20pm

re: #144 Backwoods_Sleuth

how has he taken Jerusalem “off the table”?

Because he says so?

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allegro  Jan 2, 2018 • 2:46:13pm

re: #143 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

But WHAT HAPPENED TO THE BONE?

Haha. He mostly eated it. Bruised my butt by sitting on what was left of it under a blankie on the sofa.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 2, 2018 • 2:46:16pm

re: #146 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

By unilaterally declaring it the capital of Israel, he thinks he’s removed it as a bargaining chip for the people commonly referred to as Palestinians to hold over the Israelis’ heads.

I really fail to see how the Palestinians should see that as a positive thing in terms of negotiations.

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Targetpractice  Jan 2, 2018 • 2:46:25pm

re: #145 makeitstop

WTF

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An unnamed “witness” telling this to the New York Post? The same New York Post that swore it had inside “sources” in the FBI who not only said Hillary would be indicted, but that if she wasn’t then there would be a “mass exodus” of agents?

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meteor  Jan 2, 2018 • 2:48:21pm

re: #51 Targetpractice

True. Crime started to drop under Dinkins, a black Democrat.

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ObserverArt  Jan 2, 2018 • 2:48:47pm

re: #123 Belafon

Are you passed the point where you get offended if she figures something like that out in 3 minutes? Lot’s of people I know ask for help and then get a bit defensive if I figure it out.

I would only get upset if you didn’t show me what and how you did it. Help is help…especially if it asked.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 2, 2018 • 2:50:18pm

re: #149 Backwoods_Sleuth

I really fail to see how the Palestinians should see that as a positive thing in terms of negotiations.

Apparently, if I am translating his deranged derpy ramblings correctly, he thinks that they should be thanking him because according to him, Jerusalem was the major sticking point in Palestinian-Israeli negotiations, and he’s done them all a favor by simply declaring it an Israeli holding. He also thinks the Israelis would have paid a pretty penny for that concession by the Palestinians, and that the Palestinians fucked up by not negotiating this before he got involved, missing out on the price Israel would have paid.

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JordanRules  Jan 2, 2018 • 2:53:04pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 2, 2018 • 2:53:24pm
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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jan 2, 2018 • 2:54:03pm

re: #144 Backwoods_Sleuth

how has he taken Jerusalem “off the table”?

By awarding it to Israel. Now that he has spoken, of course everyone in the world will fall in line.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 2, 2018 • 2:54:27pm

re: #154 JordanRules

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Yep. He’s running.

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JordanRules  Jan 2, 2018 • 2:55:27pm
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mmmirele  Jan 2, 2018 • 2:55:43pm

re: #67 Citizen K

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Challenge *accepted* if they pass this thing. Just got to find something worthy to protest and then get time off from work and a plane ticket. Seriously, don’t tell someone who drives around with picket signs in her car, “Oh no, you can’t spontaneously protest.” Just don’t.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 2:56:12pm

re: #145 makeitstop

WTF

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In other words, the jury isn’t full of fat Trump supporters who think HRC should just be in jail because Trump said so.

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nines09  Jan 2, 2018 • 2:56:25pm

re: #154 JordanRules

Same dick, different time zone.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 2, 2018 • 2:56:33pm

re: #153 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Apparently, if I am translating his deranged derpy ramblings correctly, he thinks that they should be thanking him because according to him, Jerusalem was the major sticking point in Palestinian-Israeli negotiations, and he’s done them all a favor by simply declaring it an Israeli holding. He also thinks the Israelis would have paid a pretty penny for that concession by the Palestinians, and that the Palestinians fucked up by not negotiating this before he got involved, missing out on the price Israel would have paid.

that is pretty much what I figured.
He is beyond delusional.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 2:56:37pm

re: #158 JordanRules

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Do you ever shut up, Donnie?

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ObserverArt  Jan 2, 2018 • 2:56:42pm

re: #142 darthstar

Stupid fucker is trying to get war jump-started before the next indictments.

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He’s running a protection racket. He is The Orange Mob President.

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makeitstop  Jan 2, 2018 • 2:57:34pm

re: #150 Targetpractice

An unnamed “witness” telling this to the New York Post? The same New York Post that swore it had inside “sources” in the FBI who not only said Hillary would be indicted, but that if she wasn’t then there would be a “mass exodus” of agents?

‘Witness’ = Roger Stone, probably. That sounds like something he’d say.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 2, 2018 • 2:57:42pm

re: #163 HappyWarrior

Do you ever shut up, Donnie?

Only when they take his phone away. And even then, he is probably running his giant orange yap to anyone in earshot. I bet ear plugs are mandatory at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue these days.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 2:57:56pm

re: #158 JordanRules

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He’s such a pathetic cretin. Has no idea how to run himself let alone a country. I wouldn’t trust Trump to run a little league baseball team let alone our nation.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 2:58:28pm

re: #166 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Only when they take his phone away. And even then, he is probably running his giant orange yap to anyone in earshot. I bet ear plugs are mandatory at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue these days.

He’s such a pathetic whiny crybaby. He has no idea how to run a country at all.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 2, 2018 • 2:59:37pm

re: #168 HappyWarrior

He’s such a pathetic whiny crybaby. He has no idea how to run a country at all.

Hell, he can’t even successfully run a casino. His other properties only succeeded because he got elected President and started forcing people to go there to gain access to him.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 3:01:13pm

re: #169 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Hell, he can’t even successfully run a casino. His other properties only succeeded because he got elected President and started forcing people to go there to gain access to him.

He’s good at one thing only and that’s promoting himself and that’s because he’s an obnoxious blowhard. In a truly just system, he’d be picking up shit for a living or would already be dead due to the way he gorges himself like a pig.

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ObserverArt  Jan 2, 2018 • 3:02:26pm

re: #145 makeitstop

WTF

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These Trump supporter assholes will do anything to try to slime the whole process.

Key to me this is BS is this person saying the jury was a Bernie Sanders rally…with a majority being Black jurists. I don’t think there are a whole lot of Black Bernie supporters, and BLM was not fond of Bernie either.

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JordanRules  Jan 2, 2018 • 3:04:14pm

re: #171 ObserverArt

That was quite an interesting tell for me too.
Looking like a BLM and Bernie party. Nahhh.

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JordanRules  Jan 2, 2018 • 3:05:51pm

Oh here’s a handy list of some countries he will not be bullying.

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Targetpractice  Jan 2, 2018 • 3:06:10pm

re: #154 JordanRules

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He running. Which means we can look forward to months of “Romney is such a dreamy, anti-Trump guy” from the “liberal” press.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 2, 2018 • 3:07:44pm

re: #174 Targetpractice

He running. Which means we can look forward to months of “Romney is such a dreamy, anti-Trump guy” from the “liberal” press.

And every single time, we will be ready, with that image from Trump’s victory tour when he thoroughly dominated the Cardboard Cutout from Massachusetts.

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Targetpractice  Jan 2, 2018 • 3:08:42pm

So they’ve bumped up the snow estimate to 4”-6” by Thursday afternoon. So what are the natives doing? That’s right, they’re panic buying all the perishable goods off the shelves like the entire city’s gonna shut down for weeks.

Oy vey.

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JordanRules  Jan 2, 2018 • 3:08:54pm

re: #174 Targetpractice

Mmhmm!
They are going to work this angle so hard for R-money he could hire less comms operatives.

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BeachDem  Jan 2, 2018 • 3:09:08pm

OK—now it’s personal:

The forecast calls for up to three inches of snow, a winter storm watch, and a wind chill in the neighborhood of 9 degrees.

Welcome to ― Myrtle Beach, South Carolina.

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ObserverArt  Jan 2, 2018 • 3:09:58pm

re: #178 BeachDem

OK—now it’s personal:

The forecast calls for up to three inches of snow, a winter storm watch, and a wind chill in the neighborhood of 9 degrees.

Welcome to ― Myrtle Beach, South Carolina.

That’s not much better than here in Columbus Beach!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 2, 2018 • 3:11:03pm

re: #176 Targetpractice

So they’ve bumped up the snow estimate to 4”-6” by Thursday afternoon. So what are the natives doing? That’s right, they’re panic buying all the perishable goods off the shelves like the entire city’s gonna shut down for weeks.

Oy vey.

Bread and milk!

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BeachDem  Jan 2, 2018 • 3:11:09pm

re: #175 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

And every single time, we will be ready, with that image from Trump’s victory tour when he thoroughly dominated the Cardboard Cutout from Massachusetts.

Wonder what #1 Romney fangirl, Jen Rubin will do now.

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lizardofid  Jan 2, 2018 • 3:12:27pm

re: #180 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Bread and milk!

Don’t forget the kitty litter!

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Targetpractice  Jan 2, 2018 • 3:13:45pm

re: #180 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Bread and milk!

And plenty of alcohol, as people across the city look at the forecasts and declare “Fuck it, 4 day weekend!”

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 2, 2018 • 3:15:16pm

re: #183 Targetpractice

And plenty of alcohol, as people across the city look at the forecasts and declare “Fuck it, 4 day weekend!”

That sounds like a damn good idea regardless of snow.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 3:20:17pm

re: #172 JordanRules

That was quite an interesting tell for me too.
Looking like a BLM and Bernie party. Nahhh.

It’s showing how ignorant they are. i imagine the grand jury was probably a diverse group of people which is probably why this “journalist” was so botehred by it.

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DodgerFan1988  Jan 2, 2018 • 3:22:57pm

Can’t make this sh*t up.

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wrenchwench  Jan 2, 2018 • 3:23:49pm

re: #183 Targetpractice

And plenty of alcohol, as people across the city look at the forecasts and declare “Fuck it, 4 day weekend!”

12th day of Christmas runs us right into the next weekend.

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ObserverArt  Jan 2, 2018 • 3:27:47pm

re: #186 DodgerFan1988

Can’t make this sh*t up.

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I heard she was having this show today as I usually watch a little of the Today Show. I wondered how Ms. “Santa is White” was going to handle the interview and her past.

She is really hard to like…even knowing she is now not at Fox.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 3:28:11pm

re: #186 DodgerFan1988

Can’t make this sh*t up.

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FO Megyn. You were a racist there.

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BeachDem  Jan 2, 2018 • 3:28:55pm

re: #181 BeachDem

Wonder what #1 Romney fangirl, Jen Rubin will do now.

Answering my own question—Jen still hearts Mitt, and has some pie-eyed vision of who the asshole is:

Romney from the Senate perch may test whether there is a GOP worth defending. If he can organize a center-right opposition to Trump both on policy and character grounds (including financial conflicts), the GOP might still have a pulse, although he could well find himself friendless in a party that has become co-opted by Trump…

while Romney is a strong conservative, it is very easy to see him playing deal-maker with Democrats on issues such as infrastructure, trade, job training, and research and development funding. He might even have the nerve to oppose unqualified nominees.

washingtonpost.com

Be still Jen’s heart—once a fangirl, always a fangirl.

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makeitstop  Jan 2, 2018 • 3:31:34pm

re: #175 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

And every single time, we will be ready, with that image from Trump’s victory tour when he thoroughly dominated the Cardboard Cutout from Massachusetts.

also this one…

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allegro  Jan 2, 2018 • 3:32:06pm

re: #178 BeachDem

OK—now it’s personal:

The forecast calls for up to three inches of snow, a winter storm watch, and a wind chill in the neighborhood of 9 degrees.

Welcome to ― Myrtle Beach, South Carolina.

May I recommend hot spiced cider and rum? In copious amounts? *hic*

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William Lewis  Jan 2, 2018 • 3:35:52pm

So ran a couple of errands to keep it running for an hour and a half - put my last $10 into the gas tank (4 gallons) then met up with my priest who used the church card to fill the tank the rest of the way. As I was going to leave I ran into the woman who sold me the truck walking home. I gave her a ride and learned the truck has a tendency to be fussy in the cold if the tank is too low. Lovely. But at least I know. My dad is talking about helping with a tune up so we’ll swing by the mechanics tomorrow and price that - I am presuming it will start then but a good warm up & the heater extension on the way I’m feeling better than yesterday at 1:00 PM lets just say :D Picked up my books on hold at the library too. Time for a cider and to relax.

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Targetpractice  Jan 2, 2018 • 3:36:41pm

I expect that Willard will simply be the first of all the NeverTrump idols, the men and women who they’ll insist will bring “sanity” back to the party by opposing Trump. When the reality is that that “opposition” will be largely empty words as they continue to vote the party line.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 2, 2018 • 3:41:31pm

re: #180 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Bread and milk!

toilet paper and liquor…

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Scottish Dragon  Jan 2, 2018 • 3:43:23pm

Hey gang. Happy new year!

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makeitstop  Jan 2, 2018 • 3:48:01pm

And my wife comes in, jiggers a few Windows processes and the Fitbit is working.

Told you she was the smart one.

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wrenchwench  Jan 2, 2018 • 3:50:22pm

re: #197 makeitstop

And my wife comes in, jiggers a few Windows processes and the Fitbit is working.

Told you she was the smart one.

Sounds like extremely limited upper body exercise. Below the wrist only. And above the neck, where it counts!

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makeitstop  Jan 2, 2018 • 3:51:03pm

Hee hee…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 2, 2018 • 3:53:49pm

re: #186 DodgerFan1988

Can’t make this sh*t up.

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she’s correct.
They weren’t dog whistles back then.
They were freaking dog sirens.

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allegro  Jan 2, 2018 • 3:55:50pm

re: #200 Backwoods_Sleuth

she’s correct.
They weren’t dog whistles back then.
They were freaking dog sirens.

Sounds like she’s being unsuccessful at redeeming her image.

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nines09  Jan 2, 2018 • 3:58:58pm

Master and his lap dog, Manly Mitt. Good boy!

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austin_blue  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:01:25pm

Whoever is running against Willard has a Go To campaign slogan:

“Knit, Mitt, Knit!”

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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:02:42pm

re: #201 allegro

Sounds like she’s being unsuccessful at redeeming her image.

Good.

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Targetpractice  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:03:14pm

That’s a picture that his Dem opponent can make a great deal of hay out of. “This is the man you’re expecting to stand up to Trump. Good luck with that!”

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Skip Intro  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:04:12pm

re: #205 Targetpractice

A Dem opponent in Utah? You folks crack me up.

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Jay C  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:06:46pm

re: #176 Targetpractice

So they’ve bumped up the snow estimate to 4”-6” by Thursday afternoon. So what are the natives doing? That’s right, they’re panic buying all the perishable goods off the shelves like the entire city’s gonna shut down for weeks.

Oy vey.

I recall once in NY, shopping the day before a blizzard was forecast to hit, going to the grocery store (crowded as hell, everybody trying to stock up ASAP), and seeing a woman pushing a cart loaded with a bunch of stuff, including about 20 boxes of Jell-O. Now I can understand loading up on dairy products, meat, cereal, booze, etc.: but Jell-O?? She must have been expecting a REALLY dire storm….

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:06:57pm

re: #95 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

I don’t love Pournelle either, but he portrayed Mussolini as a penitent, not a good guy — and the only claim he made was that M. wasn’t as bad as Hitler in the beginning, though he became so.

And after all, he was In hell.

Reminds me that in Riverworld, Philip Jose Farmer had Goering evolve into a good guy.

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JordanRules  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:06:58pm

re: #206 Skip Intro

Well, shes working her ass off.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:07:06pm

re: #202 nines09

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it looks like that orb in the ME is lighting from under the table…

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majii  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:07:32pm

re: #165 makeitstop

re: #150 Targetpractice

An unnamed “witness” telling this to the New York Post? The same New York Post that swore it had inside “sources” in the FBI who not only said Hillary would be indicted, but that if she wasn’t then there would be a “mass exodus” of agents?

‘Witness’ = Roger Stone, probably. That sounds like something he’d say.

Please don’t tell these tools that it is this type of thinking that turns so many of us Black Americans from associating ourselves with the Republican Party. If all of the jurors had been Caucasian, nothing would be said about its racial composition. Although they may never admit it, most of us are intelligent enough to realize that forming any association with the GOP as it exists today is a dangerous proposition for not only Black Americans but for all Americans and for the world.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:08:34pm
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austin_blue  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:08:38pm

re: #205 Targetpractice

That’s a picture that his Dem opponent can make a great deal of hay out of. “This is the man you’re expecting to stand up to Trump. Good luck with that!”

re: #206 Skip Intro

A Dem opponent in Utah? You folks crack me up.

Hell, A Republican opponent can use “Knit, Mitt, Knit!”

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William Lewis  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:08:57pm

re: #195 Backwoods_Sleuth

toilet paper and liquor…

blt fixings and cider (hard, that is)

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JordanRules  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:08:57pm

Oh I’m sure all the other countries are just torn up that they aren’t invited to this shit show!

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nines09  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:09:43pm

re: #210 Backwoods_Sleuth

it looks like that orb in the ME is lighting from under the table…

It looks like Mitt is eating his own balls judging by the sorrow on his plastic face.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:09:57pm

re: #209 JordanRules

Well, shes working her ass off.

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Y’all need to get the Utah GOP to run a child molester.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:10:06pm

re: #207 Jay C

I recall once in NY, shopping the day before a blizzard was forecast to hit, going to the grocery store (crowded as hell, everybody trying to stock up ASAP), and seeing a woman pushing a cart loaded with a bunch of stuff, including about 20 boxes of Jell-O. Now I can understand loading up on dairy products, meat, cereal, booze, etc.: but Jell-O?? She must have been expecting a REALLY dire storm….

obviously she is a survivor of the 50s/60s Dinner Party Society…

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:10:24pm

re: #107 BeachDem

And on that note—this is some serious bullshit in another locale.

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If they were white kids, they would’ve gotten a warning.

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Skip Intro  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:10:42pm

re: #215 JordanRules

Oh I’m sure all the other countries are just torn up that they aren’t invited to this shit show!

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At Mar-a-Lago for only $10,000 per person, lodging not included.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:11:22pm

re: #220 Skip Intro

At Mar-a-Lago for only $10,000 per person, lodging not included.

What emoluments violations?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:11:45pm

re: #186 DodgerFan1988

Megyn Kelly to ex-white supremacist: Racist ‘dog whistles’ weren’t racist when we used them at Fox News

the whole point of a dog whistle is to leave wiggle room to deny to critics that you meant anything by those statements…while others just smile and nod

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Skip Intro  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:11:56pm

re: #216 nines09

It looks like Mitt is eating his own balls judging by the sorrow on his plastic face.

He would eat his own balls if it would get him to be president.

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JordanRules  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:12:55pm

re: #220 Skip Intro

Palau coming thru with the briefcases full of money!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:13:06pm

re: #223 Skip Intro

He would eat his own balls if it would get him to be president.

Ann would serve them up on the ironing board just like in the old days…

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Targetpractice  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:14:11pm

re: #215 JordanRules

Oh I’m sure all the other countries are just torn up that they aren’t invited to this shit show!

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Well, unless he’s including those countries that abstained, this is the guest list:

Aside from Israel, the only countries to side with the United States by voting no were Guatemala, Honduras, Togo, the Marshall Islands, the Federated States of Micronesia, Nauru and Palau — mostly tiny countries heavily dependent on American aid.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:14:12pm

re: #127 makeitstop

I passed that point a long time ago.

Not only is my wife the pretty one, she’s also the smart one. I’m still wondering how I pulled that shit off. :)

I bet you have a great personality.

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austin_blue  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:14:19pm

re: #218 Backwoods_Sleuth

obviously she is a survivor of the 50s/60s Dinner Party Society…

lileks.com

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:14:57pm

“… Boyle and his American wife, Caitlin Coleman, were kidnapped by militants while hiking in Afghanistan in 2012. Coleman was pregnant at the time.

She, Boyle and their three children born in captivity were rescued by Pakistani troops in October after five years of being held as hostages.

Boyle said after his release that the insurgents killed an infant of theirs while they were held hostage and that his wife was raped by a guard. …”

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majii  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:15:34pm

re: #171 ObserverArt

“… I don’t think there are a whole lot of Black Bernie supporters…

Count me among those who cannot stand Sanders. I still think he played a major role in HRC losing the 2016 presidential election because he created a divide in a party that he was not a member of. He’s not a Democrat, but he always has some BS piece of advice to offer us [them.] I keep seeing polls stating that he’s a top pick for Dems in 2020, and every time I see them, I wonder who TF the pollsters are talking to. I hope if Sanders decides to run in 2020, Perez won’t permit him to run on the Democratic Ticket. If Perez and other DNC officials decide to let Sanders use our party again, I will do the same thing I did in 2016—-the DNC won’t get one penny from me. I’ll donate to specific Democratic politicians but not to the DNC.

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JordanRules  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:15:42pm

re: #226 Targetpractice

Aint no party like a Micronesia party cause a Micronesia party don’t stop!

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nines09  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:16:36pm

re: #223 Skip Intro

He would eat his own balls if it would get him to be president.

He’d eat your balls to get there.
Hell, he’d eat your family to get there.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:17:26pm

re: #226 Targetpractice

Well, unless he’s including those countries that abstained, this is the guest list: Guatemala, Honduras, Togo, the Marshall Islands, the Federated States of Micronesia, Nauru and Palau

Hell, we’ve only nuked one of those countries.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:18:41pm

re: #233 Decatur Deb

Hell, we’ve only nuked one of those countries.

Donald J. Trump is doing his damnedest to fix that.

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allegro  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:19:13pm

re: #233 Decatur Deb

Hell, we’ve only nuked one of those countries.

And they’re all brown so their banquet consists of dry subs and chips.

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Targetpractice  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:20:20pm

It’s like Trump is going out of his way to piss off our closest allies. Who, I should remind the class, are still going all out to avoid pissing him off in return.

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nines09  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:21:06pm

re: #226 Targetpractice

How will he tell them apart from one another?

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nines09  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:24:13pm

Evil Dead Joey Ramone in drag from The Ramones is in the news again….
Don’t take this the wrong way….but….man…..
Joey was a hoot. He’d think it was funny. I think…

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:24:43pm

re: #238 nines09

Dead Joey Ramone in drag from The Ramones is in the news again….

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That’s not fair to Joey.

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nines09  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:26:25pm

re: #239 HappyWarrior

Like I said, don’t take it the wrong way. I know people who knew Joey. He was a joker.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:27:24pm

re: #240 nines09

Like I said, don’t take it the wrong way. I know people who knew Joey. He was a joker.

Heh I know. I was just playing back. He left us too young.

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nines09  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:29:20pm

re: #241 HappyWarrior

Maybe it’s just me, but when I saw that I saw Joey. Face it, Joey wasn’t photogenic.

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sagehen  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:29:47pm

re: #145 makeitstop

WTF

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So a Washington DC grand jury, in a city that’s what 70? 80? black, is slightly over half black? Astonishing.

A jurisdiction that voted for Hillary 90% to Trump 10% (Manhattan being the only place that was even more anti-Trump than that)… doesn’t have a lot of Trump supporters available for jury duty? It’s almost like their jury pool reflects the district…

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:30:49pm

re: #206 Skip Intro

A Dem opponent in Utah? You folks crack me up.

Hey, who would’ve thought a Democrat could win in Alabama? 50 state strategy!

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nines09  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:30:57pm

re: #239 HappyWarrior

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nines09  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:32:08pm

Nope. Too much. Nope. Nope.

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William Lewis  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:32:49pm
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makeitstop  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:35:05pm

re: #242 nines09

Maybe it’s just me, but when I saw that I saw Joey. Face it, Joey wasn’t photogenic.

She’s way too short. Joey was a tall dude.

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makeitstop  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:38:38pm

This storm could be bad. The wife says the barometric pressure for this storm could be comparable to that of Hurricane Sandy.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:39:02pm

re: #249 makeitstop

This storm could be bad. The wife says the barometric pressure for this storm could be comparable to that of Hurricane Sandy.

Brace for impact.

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nines09  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:40:14pm

re: #248 makeitstop

She’s way too short. Joey was a tall dude.

Ha!

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makeitstop  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:40:43pm

re: #250 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Brace for impact.

I’m really not looking forward to this.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:41:30pm

re: #252 makeitstop

I’m really not looking forward to this.

I suggested to my father that perhaps going into the office on Thursday was not the best plan. I think he’s agreed.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:41:36pm

re: #252 makeitstop

I’m really not looking forward to this.

Come visit the wild north country. It’s not going to snow any time soon, which means all you have to do is not freeze to death.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:42:06pm

re: #252 makeitstop

I’m really not looking forward to this.

Just talked to my Dad in Myrtle Beach (Hi Beach!)

They are making a huge pot of chicken & dumplings & buckling down. Said it’s been soooooo cold there already.

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nines09  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:42:29pm

re: #252 makeitstop

I’m really not looking forward to this.

Did you see what’s behind it? The cold? Wind?

Watch the Weather Channel gear up for this..If you see Jim Cantore on your street…

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:42:37pm

re: #215 JordanRules

Oh I’m sure all the other countries are just torn up that they aren’t invited to this shit show!

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Guatemala? Trump will assume they’re the dishwashing crew.

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makeitstop  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:43:06pm

re: #254 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Come visit the wild north country. It’s not going to snow any time soon, which means all you have to do is not freeze to death.

Sounds…oddly tempting. I’m still not all the way back from New Year’s Eve, obviously.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:43:20pm

I’m craving chicken & dumplings now.

But it was 82 here today, so.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:43:58pm

re: #258 makeitstop

Sounds…oddly tempting. I’m still not all the way back from New Year’s Eve, obviously.

I was on a conference call this morning where some of the guys were talking about ice fishing. ICE FISHING. When the wind chill is -40. (The thing I love about that temperature, aside from making instant snow with boiling water, is that it is the same in both degrees F and degrees C.)

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makeitstop  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:44:05pm

re: #256 nines09

If you see Jim Cantore on your street…

I swear Imma break his jaw.

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Targetpractice  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:44:23pm

re: #256 nines09

Did you see what’s behind it? the cold? Wind?

Watch the Weather Channel gear up for this..If you see Jim Cantore on your street…

Jim Cantore showed up here when we had the winter snow storm last January. Three days later, I was finally able to make it home.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:44:52pm

re: #262 Targetpractice

Jim Cantore showed up here when we had the winter snow storm last January. Three days later, I was finally able to make it home.

Jim Cantore is the Fifth Horseman of the Apocalypse.

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makeitstop  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:45:15pm

re: #259 Stanley Sea

I’m craving chicken & dumplings now.

But it was 82 here today, so.

[ sticks out tongue at Stanley ]

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nines09  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:46:40pm
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Stanley Sea  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:46:55pm

re: #264 makeitstop

[ sticks out tongue at Stanley ]

It actually sucks. I spent all NYE sneezing & scratchy throat. Thought I caught the bug. But I’m fine. It’s just so freaking DRY, I’m getting allergies I’ve never had.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:47:52pm

re: #264 makeitstop

[ sticks out tongue at Stanley ]

me too…waterline to our toilet froze overnight when temp dropped to -5F.
currently 13F heading down to 3 F.

it’s still frozen.

dammit.

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makeitstop  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:48:12pm

re: #266 Stanley Sea

It actually sucks. I spent all NYE sneezing & scratchy throat. Thought I caught the bug. But I’m fine. It’s just so freaking DRY, I’m getting allergies I’ve never had.

Feel better!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:49:20pm

re: #267 Backwoods_Sleuth

me too…waterline to our toilet froze overnight when temp dropped to -5F.
currently 13F heading down to 3 F.

it’s still frozen.

dammit.

Apparently the extreme cold caused our heating to fail at the office over the New Year’s weekend. Unfortunately, they got it fixed on New Year’s Day, so I actually did have to go in to work today.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:50:13pm

re: #236 Targetpractice

It’s like Trump is going out of his way to piss off our closest allies. Who, I should remind the class, are still going all out to avoid pissing him off in return.

I wonder what will happen when one of them runs out of fucks to give. I guarantee you there’s a few close already.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:50:54pm

re: #268 makeitstop

Feel better!

Thanks! I’m fine now.

I don’t think I’d last a minute outside where you people are. Brutal.

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Targetpractice  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:51:19pm

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:51:52pm

re: #271 Stanley Sea

Thanks! I’m fine now.

I don’t think I’d last a minute outside where you people are. Brutal.

To be fair, people generally don’t go outside in these conditions unless they’re stupid, drunk, or well-attired. There’s always the odd stupid idiot who is wandering around in shorts and a T-shirt, but that’s usually for a short walk between segments of the skyway downtown.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:52:38pm

re: #256 nines09

Did you see what’s behind it? The cold? Wind?

Watch the Weather Channel gear up for this..If you see Jim Cantore on your street…

Running from Jim Cantore

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The Major  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:52:46pm

At lest one of the nicest things our. dear old USPS does is that their vestibule is open 24/7 so you can walk in and ship stuff you flog on eBay….right now I’m at my haunt on my backup phone smoking a stogie and downing a Founder’s Porter and listening to Auntie Beeb’ World Service while watching this thread…

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sagehen  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:53:27pm

re: #270 Eclectic Cyborg

I wonder what will happen when one of them runs out of fucks to give. I guarantee you there’s a few close already.

I know what’ll happen… all that secret info their intel agencies shared with our FBI? It won’t be secret anymore.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:53:29pm

The yam is melting down.

again

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:53:58pm

re: #277 Stanley Sea

The yam is melting down.

again

Just another day ending in -y, my friend.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:54:09pm

re: #207 Jay C

I recall once in NY, shopping the day before a blizzard was forecast to hit, going to the grocery store (crowded as hell, everybody trying to stock up ASAP), and seeing a woman pushing a cart loaded with a bunch of stuff, including about 20 boxes of Jell-O. Now I can understand loading up on dairy products, meat, cereal, booze, etc.: but Jell-O?? She must have been expecting a REALLY dire storm….

It was all the store had left.

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The Major  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:54:25pm

re: #277 Stanley Sea

Whaat’s Hair Furor yammering about now ?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:54:39pm

re: #277 Stanley Sea

The yam is melting down.

again

It won’t end. He needs to be removed.

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makeitstop  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:55:09pm

So, provided we survive this storm (heh), we’re going to the Blue Note in February to see Jools Holland and a 19-piece rhythm and blues band.

The only thing that stopped us from going to see Squeeze last month was the fact that Jools wasn’t with them. He hasn’t appeared live in the States in over 20 years.

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The Major  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:55:33pm

re: #281 HappyWarrior

I can’t wait. for the. Presidential Physical….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:55:47pm

re: #277 Stanley Sea

The yam is melting down.

again

good fucking grief

happy fucking new year, y’all…

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Stanley Sea  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:56:06pm

re: #280 The Major

Whaat’s Hair Furor yammering about now ?

That he has the nuclear button as well.

You’ll see the tweet soon enough.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:57:37pm

re: #284 Backwoods_Sleuth

BTW…Kim Jong Un did not “just state” that…it’s old news.
guessing the yam just now saw it on Fox.

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jaunte  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:57:45pm

re: #284 Backwoods_Sleuth

my Button works!

But he won’t show us his physical results.

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Schweppes7  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:59:04pm

re: #284 Backwoods_Sleuth

Holy shit I thought this was a parody account at first. This reminds me of the debate where he bragged about how big his dick was…. Ugh. Happy new year indeed everyone.

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nines09  Jan 2, 2018 • 4:59:47pm
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The Major  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:00:15pm

re: #285 Stanley Sea

He has to break open the busciut first…he probably doesn’t have the strength to do that….

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:01:22pm

We know this is going to happen. The Republicans on the panel are going to come up with one conclusion, completely exonerating Trump and his cabinet, thereby making whatever the Dem investigators for irrelevant (in the eyes of Trump supporters). This whole thing just sucks. We are going to be stuck with Trump until 2020. The only way we will put the brakes on his sabotage is going to be the midterms in November. That really is our last hope.

cnn.com

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VegasGolfer  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:01:22pm

Trump obsessed with the size of his button.

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BeachDem  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:01:46pm

re: #215 JordanRules

Oh I’m sure all the other countries are just torn up that they aren’t invited to this shit show!

[Embedded content]

And also how is this “just in” when Nikki sent an invitation December 21?

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jaunte  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:01:47pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:02:43pm

There are a bunch of Twitter accounts (probably all Russian bots) tweeting and retweeting bullshit memes about all the Clintons being actual witches and devil worshippers. Talk about WITCH HUNT.

Nope I’m not embedding any of them here.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:03:00pm

Is Trump the most reckless world leader in history?

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BeachDem  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:03:48pm

re: #225 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ann would serve them up on the ironing board just like in the old days…

Damn—as if it’s not revolting enough to have Mitt running, now we have to suffer Egg’s obnoxious appearances. (and the spawn—oh dawg, the Romney spawn)

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Stanley Sea  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:04:25pm

It’s like he’s so pissed to be back at work he’s throwing a tantrum.

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jaunte  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:04:40pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:04:47pm

re: #289 nines09

[Embedded content]

LOLOLOLOLOLOL!

Wins the intertubes today!

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The Major  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:05:27pm

re: #297 BeachDem

Amkes me wonder what did George do when he raised Mitt to make him turn out the way he did. George was a decent Republican Govenor in my homestate of Michigan….

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:05:27pm

re: #299 jaunte

I wish we could permanently cut the transmitter.

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makeitstop  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:06:34pm

Interesting. That story about the Mueller grand jury has been floating around for a few weeks. Leave it to the trash NY Post to publish it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:06:58pm

re: #299 jaunte

[Embedded content]

called it.

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jaunte  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:07:01pm
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Skip Intro  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:08:42pm

re: #244 Big Beautiful Door

Hey, who would’ve thought a Democrat could win in Alabama? 50 state strategy!

Got any evidence that Willard is a pedophile?

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:09:06pm

re: #296 Eclectic Cyborg

Is Trump the most reckless world leader in history?

Yes.

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Schweppes7  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:10:05pm

He is still going, now going to use the presidential seal to attack the free press again as usual.

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nines09  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:11:35pm

re: #303 makeitstop

See the black man in the background? Is that the, uh, problem?
Let’s ask Megyn Kelly if she hears any dog whistles.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:12:29pm

re: #308 Schweppes7

He is still going, now going to use the presidential seal to attack the free press again as usual.

[Embedded content]

I nominate Faux News for everything. My father calls them “fair and balanced” because they have Democrats on sometimes… but then he doesn’t listen to them anyway, because that’s what Faux News does - it conditions its viewers to hate people who think differently from the conservative hive mind.

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The Major  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:13:40pm

re: #310 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Don’t forget “Manufactured consent” as well…

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nowherenorth2  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:14:05pm

re: #308 Schweppes7

I just want to yell:
This isn’t a reality or award show you orange bastard!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:15:13pm

He really has turned the Presidency into a fucking reality show.

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The Major  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:16:22pm

re: #313 Eclectic Cyborg

And that was the gist of that excerable NY Times article…

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Skip Intro  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:16:30pm

re: #313 Eclectic Cyborg

He’s managed to debase the whole country with his act and the GOP doesn’t care at all.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:19:39pm

Currently trying to do something new, between a data analysis software package and Excel that, once implemented, will make my boss very happy.

BUT I’m currently in the “OH, GODDAMMIT!!!!!! I UNDID THE WHOLE GODDAM THING!!!” stage.

I need a drink.

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stpaulbear  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:19:40pm

re: #305 jaunte

[Embedded content]

But she was weak on global warming!!

(I made the mistake of reading part of Naomi Klein’s “No Is Not Enough” this week. Talk about closing the barn doors after the horses have bolted)

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:19:50pm

re: #299 jaunte

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:20:08pm

I cleaned the oven today. Going to do another round of cookies and also some lasagna roll-ups this week. With homemade Italian sausage, because that is a thing I’m trying to do more of.

(I am definitely in a just roll with the punches and focus my efforts where they yield actual results frame of mind right now.)

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:20:41pm
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The Major  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:20:52pm

OT: Auntie Beeb’ is reporting that China will no longer be accepting millions of tons of plastic for recycling.

That should cause all sorts of heartache over here….

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:21:21pm

re: #320 FormerDirtDart

Nope.

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Skip Intro  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:21:22pm

re: #308 Schweppes7

He is still going, now going to use the presidential seal to attack the free press again as usual.

[Embedded content]

He won’t be happy until one of his followers bombs CNN. Then he still won’t be happy because they didn’t bomb all his other enemies as well.

There’s nothing like having a psychopath as president of the US.

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makeitstop  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:21:46pm
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wheat-dogg  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:22:04pm

Yet another Twitter poll not going as author intended:

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Skip Intro  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:23:34pm
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calochortus  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:23:38pm

re: #321 The Major

OT: Auntie Beeb’ is reporting that China will no longer be accepting millions of tons of plastic for recycling.

That should cause all sorts of heartache over here….

They’re tired of getting trash/non recyclable stuff with the plastic. Recyclers here are hoping they can negotiate the 0.5% non-recyclable content upward a bit. It is a bit of a problem for both sides.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:26:14pm

re: #326 Skip Intro

Is the President allowed to use his office to promote businesses like this?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:26:51pm

re: #328 Eclectic Cyborg

Is the President allowed to use his office to promote businesses like this?

Does he give a shit? Who’s going to stop him?

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Skip Intro  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:26:54pm

re: #328 Eclectic Cyborg

He is now.

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majii  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:27:23pm

re: #314 The Major

re: #313 Eclectic Cyborg

And that was the gist of that excerable NY Times article…

A few months ago, I was seriously thinking about subscribing to the NYT. Now I’m glad that I didn’t waste my money. I have zero tolerance for reading fluff pieces about the Talking Yam written by the NYT’s WH stenographers, or for reading how one’s race means one can’t serve on a grand jury investigating the TY and his associates.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:27:30pm

re: #330 Skip Intro

He is now.

HE’S THE PRESIDENT, BY DEFINITION IT CAN’T BE ILLEGAL

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:28:31pm

re: #321 The Major

OT: Auntie Beeb’ is reporting that China will no longer be accepting millions of tons of plastic for recycling.

That should cause all sorts of heartache over here….

Where will we get our shitty plastic lawn furniture?

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:28:46pm

re: #328 Eclectic Cyborg

Is the President allowed to use his office to promote businesses like this?

“Well, when the president does it, that means that it is not illegal.” -Richard Nixon

335
Ace Rothstein  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:29:20pm

re: #333 Blind Frog Belly White

Trump Shitty Plastic Furniture Co., LLC.

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retired cynic  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:29:40pm

Remember the last Keystone pipeline leak (at least the last one I remember at the moment—in last November)?

Charlie Pierce reports that the cause is apparently because half-circle concrete blocks were placed on the pipeline where the pipeline was below the top of the water table (!!!) to keep it from floating up. Apparently the concrete rubbed on the pipeline and caused a rupture. Who would have thought? And what the heck is it with putting a crude oil pipeline through shallow ground water ground? What a recipe for disaster.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:29:41pm
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FormerDirtDart  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:29:42pm

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:30:34pm

re: #335 Ace Rothstein

Trump Shitty Plastic Furniture Co., LLC.

(A Pass-Through Entity)

But, in a larger sense, aren’t we all?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:31:24pm

re: #338 FormerDirtDart

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

[Embedded content]

Turns out they DON’T have a Jewish friend after all.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:32:01pm

re: #340 Blind Frog Belly White

Turns out they DON’T have a Jewish friend after all.

A Jee-you. (That’s how she pronounced it)

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:32:45pm

I know we should not post full articles, so I won’t. But I urge you to read this. It’s likely part of the reason Trump is so bat-shit insane today:

mobile.nytimes.com

By Glenn R. Simpson and Peter Fritsch
Jan. 2, 2018

A generation ago, Republicans sought to protect President Richard Nixon by urging the Senate Watergate committee to look at supposed wrongdoing by Democrats in previous elections. The committee chairman, Sam Ervin, a Democrat, said that would be “as foolish as the man who went bear hunting and stopped to chase rabbits.”

Today, amid a growing criminal inquiry into Russian meddling in the 2016 election, congressional Republicans are again chasing rabbits. We know because we’re their favorite quarry.

In the year since the publication of the so-called Steele dossier — the collection of intelligence reports we commissioned about Donald Trump’s ties to Russia — the president has repeatedly attacked us on Twitter. His allies in Congress have dug through our bank records and sought to tarnish our firm to punish us for highlighting his links to Russia. Conservative news outlets and even our former employer, The Wall Street Journal, have spun a succession of mendacious conspiracy theories about our motives and backers.

We are happy to correct the record. In fact, we already have…..

Three congressional committees have heard over 21 hours of testimony from our firm, Fusion GPS. In those sessions, we toppled the far right’s conspiracy theories and explained how The Washington Free Beacon and the Clinton campaign — the Republican and Democratic funders of our Trump research — separately came to hire us in the first place.

We walked investigators through our yearlong effort to decipher Mr. Trump’s complex business past, of which the Steele dossier is but one chapter. And we handed over our relevant bank records — while drawing the line at a fishing expedition for the records of companies we work for that have nothing to do with the Trump case.

Republicans have refused to release full transcripts of our firm’s testimony, even as they selectively leak details to media outlets on the far right. It’s time to share what our company told investigators….

[several paragraphs cut]

Yes, we hired Mr. Steele, a highly respected Russia expert. But we did so without informing him whom we were working for and gave him no specific marching orders beyond this basic question: Why did Mr. Trump repeatedly seek to do deals in a notoriously corrupt police state that most serious investors shun?

What came back shocked us. Mr. Steele’s sources in Russia (who were not paid) reported on an extensive — and now confirmed — effort by the Kremlin to help elect Mr. Trump president. Mr. Steele saw this as a crime in progress and decided he needed to report it to the F.B.I.

We did not discuss that decision with our clients, or anyone else. Instead, we deferred to Mr. Steele, a trusted friend and intelligence professional with a long history of working with law enforcement. We did not speak to the F.B.I. and haven’t since.

After the election, Mr. Steele decided to share his intelligence with Senator John McCain via an emissary. We helped him do that. The goal was to alert the United States national security community to an attack on our country by a hostile foreign power. We did not, however, share the dossier with BuzzFeed, which to our dismay published it last January.

We’re extremely proud of our work to highlight Mr. Trump’s Russia ties. To have done so is our right under the First Amendment.

It is time to stop chasing rabbits. The public still has much to learn about a man with the most troubling business past of any United States president. Congress should release transcripts of our firm’s testimony, so that the American people can learn the truth about our work and most important, what happened to our democracy.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:33:39pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:35:01pm

re: #341 Ace Rothstein

A Jee-you. (That’s how she pronounced it)

Rhymes with “Eeeewww…” (That’s what she was thinking)

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calochortus  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:35:58pm

re: #337 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

From the annals of Free Republic regarding the fake news awards:

To: SMGFan

I feel kind of sorry for those who hate Trump so bad that they’re unable to enjoy how fun and funny he is.

That’s too bad for them.

9 posted on 1/2/2018, 5:24:46 PM by americas.best.days… ( Donald John Trump has pulled the sword from the stone.)

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majii  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:36:08pm

re: #319 klys (maker of Silmarils)

“…I cleaned the oven today….”

I did that a couple weeks ago, and then I got industrious and cleaned one of my fridges. These are the top two kitchen jobs I hate doing. I have a self-cleaning oven but I have to remove the racks and clean them separately. I bought a larger fridge last year and put the other one in my office, so now I have two to clean. The one in the office is next. I’m currently giving my bedroom a thorough cleaning and upgrade, including adding an area rug, replacing the mattress/box-spring, curtains, and bedding. I made one run at my walk-in closet earlier a few months ago, but I need to go through it again. Rearranging/clearing out my closet is third on the list of things I hate.

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The Major  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:36:37pm

re: #340 Blind Frog Belly White

Until they no longer serve a purpose or get deathly sick - remember Trump”s Ace lawyer back in the early 1980’s Roy Cohn ? When Cohn was dying of AIDS and Trump cut him off cold, Cohn was screaming in his hospital bed: “Trump pisses ice water!”

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:37:33pm

re: #346 majii

“…I cleaned the oven today….”

I did that a couple weeks ago, and then I got industrious and cleaned one of my fridges. These are the top two kitchen jobs I hate doing. I have a self-cleaning oven but I have to remove the racks and clean them separately. I bought a larger fridge last year and put the other one in my office, so now I have two to clean. The one in the office is next. I’m currently giving my bedroom a thorough cleaning and upgrade, including adding an area rug, replacing the mattress/box-spring, curtains, and bedding. I made one run at my walk-in closet earlier a few months ago, but I need to go through it again. Rearranging/clearing out my closet is third on the list of things I hate.

My oven is so old, it doesn’t have a self-cleaning function.

The fridge should probably get wiped down at some point. I did a pass-through on it today. Rearranged the pantry last week, feeling pretty good about that.

The clothes need a pass but probably not before next week because I have a lot of cooking to do.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:37:59pm
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:38:15pm

re: #343 Charles Johnson

I too have a Nuclear Button, but it is a much bigger & more powerful one than his

buttons vs mittens gop primary 2020 deth match!

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:38:16pm

re: #349 FormerDirtDart

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Stanley Sea  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:40:18pm

re: #338 FormerDirtDart

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

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Who got Roy Moore’s kid off of drug charges or something.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:41:41pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:42:27pm
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Stanley Sea  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:42:35pm

re: #343 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

And privileged twitter is joking about it.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:45:50pm

re: #351 FormerDirtDart

Wow.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:45:57pm

re: #349 FormerDirtDart

[Embedded content]

I’m seeing bullshit on the twitter from journalists.
This is serious shit & no one cares.

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majii  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:46:45pm

re: #352 Stanley Sea

“Who got Roy Moore’s kid off of drug charges or something.”

Right, and I will mention that that wasn’t the first time Moore’s kid had been arrested on drug charges. He was arrested in Florida, too, but I’m not sure how he avoided jail on that one. Somehow, the young adult Moore male benefits from his dad’s power and influence. I always thought it’s strange that Moore feels he should be able to have control over others’ lives but doesn’t seem to be able to do anything about his son’s troubles/problems. I recall that the last time his little sonny boy got into trouble, the first thing Moore asked for was “privacy” for the family.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:47:56pm

re: #358 majii

“Who got Roy Moore’s kid off of drug charges or something.”

Right, and I will mention that that wasn’t the first time Moore’s kid had been arrested on drug charges. He was arrested in Florida, too, but I’m not sure how he avoided jail on that one. Somehow, the young adult Moore male benefits from his dad’s power and influence. I always thought it’s strange that Moore feels he should be able to have control over others’ lives but doesn’t seem to be able to do anything about his son’s troubles/problems. I recall that the last time his little sonny boy got into trouble, the first thing Moore asked for was “privacy” for the family.

It’s not strange at all for The Elect to expect different treatment from everyone else, especially if you have no self-awareness and little if any conscience.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:48:56pm

re: #306 Skip Intro

Got any evidence that Willard is a pedophile?

First, Willard hasn’t even announced yet, much less won the nomination. The Democrats need to run good candidates everywhere, and in some red locations they will catch a break when the GOP nominates a nutbag. If Doug Jones hadn’t run, Moore would be a US Senator now.

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CleverToad  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:03:19pm

re: #327 calochortus

They’re tired of getting trash/non recyclable stuff with the plastic. Recyclers here are hoping they can negotiate the 0.5% non-recyclable content upward a bit. It is a bit of a problem for both sides.

Seems like there should be business opportunity in finding more ways to use/re-use all those abundant plastic resources in the trash. And business opportunity in finding ways to set up smaller local manufacturing with 3D printing, that cuts the cost (and risks) of shipping cheap plastic stuff across the Pacific. There’s plenty of green to be made in green industries.

That’s the kind of company I’d want to invest in, if I had anything spare to invest.
My husband has been saying for years that the Dems should set up with some of the US car manufacturers to sell hybrid/electric cars in a color called “Democrat Green” — i.e. what’s good for the world’s environment can also be great for the American economy and the American worker.

“Democrat Green: Good for your wallet AND your lungs”

EDIT: Yeah, I know I’m dreaming. Still wish I had the money to do it…


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