Donald Trump Just Explicitly Threatened to Start a Nuclear War

“My button is bigger than yours”
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Our so-called president has been really out of control today on Twitter, but this was the worst of a series of awful tweets, boasting about the size of his “Nuclear Button” and explicitly threatening North Korea.

The media is reporting on this, then moving right along to the next story as if it’s just one more normal piece of business from Trump. But the hour’s getting late, folks. There’s a madman in the White House and we’re all in very grave danger.

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649 comments

1
HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:45:17pm

Remove him NOW.

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nines09  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:47:13pm

And the entire Republican party had nothing to say.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:47:34pm

I have Trumpanzees on Twitter coming at me, telling me it was “just a joke,” he wasn’t serious. JFC.

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ObserverArt  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:47:49pm

“What, you libs can’t take a joke?”

Said by some Trump excuser somewhere.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:48:55pm

re: #4 ObserverArt

“What, you libs can’t take a joke?”

Said by some Trump excuser somewhere.

I can take a joke. I just prefer not to have one as President.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:48:59pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

I have Trumpanzees on Twitter coming at me, telling me it was “just a joke,” he wasn’t serious. JFC.

If Kim Jong Un were a rational state actor, maybe I’d accept that, Trumpers will do anything to rationalize this pig.

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ObserverArt  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:48:59pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

I have Trumpanzees on Twitter coming at me, telling me it was “just a joke,” he wasn’t serious. JFC.

I was just mere seconds from getting my last tweet in before you posted this. I knew it was coming…

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:49:24pm

This country is finished. We did the best we could.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:49:35pm

Trump’s tweets are so kindergarten. I changed it.

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Teukka  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:50:05pm

Is it at this juncture I tell the basic things to do when you see the flash?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:50:23pm

re: #9 PhillyPretzel

These tweets are so kindergarten.

And the President is the kid who eats paste.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:51:37pm

re: #11 Blind Frog Belly White

Yes. :(

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:51:47pm

Not even one year into this nightmare.

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ObserverArt  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:52:21pm

re: #8 Ace Rothstein

This country is finished. We did the best we could.

Come on Ace…you’re not one to usually fall into the doom posts.

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Skip Intro  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:52:38pm

re: #13 HappyWarrior

Not even one year into this nightmare.

And he keeps getting worse.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:52:39pm

I predicted that this year Trump would be far worse than 2017. Two days in I’m already proven right.

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dangerman  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:53:04pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

I have Trumpanzees on Twitter coming at me, telling me it was “just a joke,” he wasn’t serious. JFC.

This is how a president behaves publicly?

‘sides, it’s not whether I can take a joke

It’s what Kim Jong un thinks

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:53:30pm

re: #2 nines09

And the entire Republican party had nothing to say.

Because they care more about coddling the wealthy and Christian Right than anything else. They need to own Trump forever.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:53:54pm

re: #15 Skip Intro

And he keeps getting worse.

I know.

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plansbandc  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:54:13pm

Because “joking” about launching a nuke is just so fucking hilarious.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:54:56pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:55:10pm

re: #17 dangerman

This is how a president behaves publicly?

‘sides, it’s not whether I can take a joke

It’s what Kim Jong un thinks

It’s just like how Reagan was lucky he had Gorby when he made his stupid joke. There’s a place for jokes. It’s not with someone who you even say is unstable and should not have nuclear weapono.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:56:06pm

re: #21 Charles Johnson

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Yeah it’s real fucking funny. I wish we could replace the Trump ass kissers with millions of foreigners.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:56:32pm
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Ace Rothstein  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:56:58pm

re: #14 ObserverArt

You’re right, but what bothers me is that the country has become so de-sensitized to this bullshit, just look at the reactions on twitter right now: “HE’S ONLY KIDDING!!!!”

If ANY OTHER PRESIDENT, OBAMA, NIXON, IKE, CLINTON, BUSH 41 OR 43, ETC. acted this way, he would be gone by the end of week. With this fucking asshole all anyone does is shrug their fucking shoulders, and it’s outrageous.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:57:13pm

Brian Stelter is bringing it.

He is not well.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:57:31pm

re: #22 HappyWarrior

It’s just like how Reagan was lucky he had Gorby when he made his stupid joke. There’s a place for jokes. It’s not with someone who you even say is unstable and should not have nuclear weapono.

The sad thing is, we have to depend on the rationality of the North Korean dictator because the President of the US is dangerously unstable.

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Skip Intro  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:57:48pm

re: #20 plansbandc

Because “joking” about launching a nuke is just so fucking hilarious.

So is attacking the press. I hope the media hacks who were willing to be corraled like animals in 2016 are beginning to get a little scared about the consequences of what they were willing to do for access.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:57:50pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:58:07pm
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dangerman  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:58:15pm

re: #21 Charles Johnson

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As in wrote this am

Littlegreenfootballs

They will never shut his account down

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:58:27pm

re: #25 Ace Rothstein

He is a bully and most people are afraid of him.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:58:53pm

re: #23 HappyWarrior

Yeah it’s real fucking funny. I wish we could replace the Trump ass kissers with millions of foreigners.

Refugees would agree with you.

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ObserverArt  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:59:10pm

I think Kim Jong-un realizes Trump is fucking nuts.

He doesn’t need to bomb anyone.

Just like Putin, they have American reeling with soft weapons…digital manipulation.

The world is laughing.

That’s bad enough.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:59:12pm
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Stanley Sea  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:59:17pm

re: #14 ObserverArt

Come on Ace…you’re not one to usually fall into the doom posts.

Tonight feels different

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Interesting Times  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:59:30pm

re: #25 Ace Rothstein

If ANY OTHER PRESIDENT, OBAMA, NIXON, IKE, CLINTON, BUSH 41 OR 43, ETC. acted this way, he would be gone by the end of week. With this fucking asshole all anyone does is shrug their fucking shoulders, and it’s outrageous.

This is probably the best insight I’ve seen into how, counter-intuitively, the more horrible things trump does, the easier it is for him to get away with them (it also puts into words what I’ve been feeling re HRC coverage in comparison):

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JordanRules  Jan 2, 2018 • 5:59:39pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:00:10pm

re: #30 Charles Johnson

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Why doesn’t this chickenshit go enlist instead of this stupid tough guy shit on Twitter?

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:00:25pm

re: #32 PhillyPretzel

He is a bully and most people are afraid of him.

FUCK THAT. I wish someone, ANYONE in the media would go after him like Morrow did McCarthy. CALL HIM A LIAR WHEN HE LIES!!!!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:01:00pm

The world might end tomorrow.

I might die later this evening in a car accident.

But I’m not going to live my life like I expect either of them to happen.

Unless it’s in the positive sense of always making sure that I tell the people I love what they mean to me and that sort of thing, because you never know when the last goodbye is.

Anyway that’s my take on today because that’s how I keep functioning. Which, maybe that’s overrated. But it’s what I’ve got.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:01:25pm

re: #31 dangerman

As in wrote this am

Littlegreenfootballs

They will never shut his account down

They won’t because of being POTUS. DUH

I think it is a stupid request.

Deal, it shows his current mental state - what the complicit will never tell us.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:01:35pm

re: #35 Charles Johnson

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Obama? Obama whose leadership we saw the deaths of Bin Laden and Qaddafi? Yeah he was such a pansy unlike Trump who bends over backwards to kiss Putin’s ring.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:02:16pm

re: #41 Charles Johnson

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Fuck these people. I hate so many of our fellow Americans right now. For first voting for this guy and then accepting everything he does and mockign people who rightfully worry about what he’s doing.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:02:21pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:02:24pm

re: #42 klys (maker of Silmarils)

The world might end tomorrow.

I might die later this evening in a car accident.

But I’m not going to live my life like I expect either of them to happen.

Unless it’s in the positive sense of always making sure that I tell the people I love what they mean to me and that sort of thing, because you never know when the last goodbye is.

Anyway that’s my take on today because that’s how I keep functioning. Which, maybe that’s overrated. But it’s what I’ve got.

You’re not wrong. This is why I am drinking tonight with Mrs. Fish and binge-watching Ash vs. the Evil Dead. Loves me some Bruce Campbell.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:03:09pm

re: #40 Ace Rothstein

FUCK THAT. I wish someone, ANYONE in the media would go after him like Morrow did McCarthy. CALL HIM A LIAR WHEN HE LIES!!!!

Brian Stelter had a minute, he said “he’s not well”

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Charles Johnson  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:03:16pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:03:19pm

re: #46 Charles Johnson

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Balls? Like Trump? Trump’s the biggest coward we’ve ever had in office and his supporters are even bigger cowards.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:03:53pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:04:14pm

re: #49 Charles Johnson

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They’re worse than the people in NK who worship Kim because at least the people in NK have the excuse of saying they’ve never experienced real democracy. What are these pathetic assholes’s excuses? Man and I thought hte Bush suckups were awful.

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William Lewis  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:04:15pm

re: #8 Ace Rothstein

This country is finished. We did the best we could.

The experiment lasted longer than most expected.

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TedStriker  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:04:51pm

re: #31 dangerman

As in wrote this am

Littlegreenfootballs

They will never shut his account down

Indeed.

Trump is Twitter’s ultimate “halo” user, one that gets them millions of eyeballs on their service. At the rate they’re burning through money, Twitter can’t afford to boot Trump, even if they wanted to (and it’s pretty damn clear they don’t want to, even if that means many diplomatic and national security incidents are caused by the Orange Flotation Device’s tweets).

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:05:04pm

re: #53 William Lewis

The experiment lasted longer than most expected.

It’s sad to see it after we had a truly good President the past eight years. We did this to ourselves. Russia helped but we did it to ourselves.

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ObserverArt  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:05:25pm

re: #36 Stanley Sea

Tonight feels different

How?

He said this back in August. What is different?

Trump Threatens North Korea With ‘Fire And Fury’

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Skip Intro  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:05:48pm

re: #51 Stanley Sea

It’s also about the fitness of the 35% of the country who can’t enough of this buffoon.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:05:54pm

Brian said “madness”

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Interesting Times  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:06:14pm

re: #52 HappyWarrior

They’re worse than the people in NK who worship Kim because at least the people in NK have the excuse of saying they’ve never experienced real democracy. What are these pathetic assholes’s excuses? Man and I thought hte Bush suckups were awful.

Remember all the shitty little kids and teens who bullied and tormented their classmates and thought it was “fun” to act like sadistic creeps? They’re the trumpchumps, all grown up.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:07:16pm

You know what else?

The yam probably just fucked up the Olympics.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:07:19pm

re: #59 Interesting Times

Remember all the shitty little kids and teens who bullied and tormented their classmates and thought it was “fun” to act like sadistic creeps? They’re the trumpchumps, all grown up.

Yep.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:07:21pm

Fuck the doom and gloom. No. Not giving in to it. Yes, Trump is a dumbass. Yes, he might start WWIII and end civilization as we know it. Until the day the nukes start falling (and I’ll be among the first to know; you know Minot isn’t that far away), we are still America, Trump is still a fuckstick, and I am still convinced that we will SURVIVE THIS SHIT AND THRIVE WHEN IT IS DONE. We are Americans. We are proud. We are strong.

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dangerman  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:07:33pm

re: #43 Stanley Sea

They won’t because of being POTUS. DUH

I think it is a stupid request.

Deal, it shows his current mental state - what the complicit will never tell us.

He drives more twitter traffic than anyone

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Belafon  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:07:35pm

re: #46 Charles Johnson

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:07:46pm

re: #60 Stanley Sea

You know what else?

The yam probably just fucked up the Olympics.

And the relationship with South Korea which is a very important one in that part of the world.

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The Major  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:07:55pm

WE can only hope that the Presidential Physical will reveal something that MAY give something. that someone can use as a cudgel to go after Trump and make Trump really go off his rocker….

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:08:22pm

re: #45 HappyWarrior

Fuck these people. I hate so many of our fellow Americans right now. For first voting for this guy and then accepting everything he does and mockign people who rightfully worry about what he’s doing.

They’re all morons.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:08:31pm

re: #66 The Major

WE can only hope that the Presidential Physical will reveal something that MAY give something. that someone can use as a cudgel to go after Trump and make Trump really go off his rocker….

I wish I could see it but none of his inner circle have any decency at all. They’re either cowards or lackeys.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:08:32pm

re: #66 The Major

We will never, ever see or hear about it. Never.

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Skip Intro  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:08:45pm

re: #56 ObserverArt

You have to take all his tweets today as a set to see why it’s different, and realize this is how he acts after getting a major legislative victory and being on vacation for over a week.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:08:46pm
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JordanRules  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:10:38pm

re: #66 The Major

We wont see that thing. All eyes on the midterms, that is where the hope hangs out.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:10:41pm

re: #56 ObserverArt

How?

He said this back in August. What is different?

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It’s different because this was an explicit threat to use nuclear weapons. “Fire and fury” could mean anything. This was unmistakable and un-spinnable.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:10:56pm

We’re going to wake up tomorrow and that hack Sanders is going to tell us that Trump’s critics are just overreacting as usual and that this is again why the media shouldn’t be trusted. Really sad to say but I think Hitler for all his evil was a more rational actor than Trump. It doesn’t take away from what a monster Hitler was but Trump is more unstable than Hitler was at this point.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:11:16pm

re: #72 JordanRules

We wont see that thing. All eyes on the midterms, that is where the hope hangs out.

We need a midterm tsunami.

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JordanRules  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:12:06pm

re: #74 HappyWarrior

Yup and she’ll run with the “joke” bullshit too.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:12:44pm

re: #76 JordanRules

Yup and she’ll run with the “joke” bullshit too.

Yep. I hate her. She’s nothing but an Arkansas Goebells.

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ObserverArt  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:12:46pm

re: #40 Ace Rothstein

FUCK THAT. I wish someone, ANYONE in the media would go after him like Morrow did McCarthy. CALL HIM A LIAR WHEN HE LIES!!!!

There are people that call him out for being a liar. Apparently no one watches.

Lawrence O’Donnell. Probably calls him a liar more than anyone.

Rachel Maddow. She’s sly about it, but you know her point.

Ari Melber…lays out the facts of why what Trumps says is a lie.

Who is the website that compiles all the lies and says right now we are well into 2000, can’t remember…but they do?

Yeah, I now it is MSNBC. But it makes my point.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:12:47pm

re: #56 ObserverArt

How?

He said this back in August. What is different?

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Cumulative.

How many whack tweets today, the first day without golf?

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William Lewis  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:12:49pm

re: #71 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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Nah, tell him “Yes, we do need to kick that fat stupid fool. Out of Washington and into an NUTHOUSE.”

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The Major  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:13:42pm

re: #75 HappyWarrior

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:13:46pm

re: #78 ObserverArt

I wan to see the NYT and the WaPo do it.

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Teukka  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:14:06pm

re: #10 Teukka

Is it at this juncture I tell the basic things to do when you see the flash?

1) Do not look into the right. It will blind you. Turn head or body away.
2) Begin to count seconds (I’ll explain later).
3) Get behind something mass and thickness that is solidly fixed in the ground. If that fails, any depression in the ground. Put your back towards the detonation.
4) Begin doing what you do to pressure equalize when you fly. Keep mouth open. This is to decrease the risk of being deafened by he shockwave.
5) Note seconds passed when fireball goes out. Keep counting seconds (I’ll explain later).
6) Note seconds passed when shockwave arrives (see below). Remember that there can be two shockwaves, one going out, the other coming back in.
7) Prepare mentally to be traumatized by what you see.

Counting the duration of the fireball gives a rule-of-thumb value of the yield of the device. The time between start of fireball to shockwave gives you the rough distance to hypocenter (remember that the shockwave can travel faster than the speed of sound for a bit).

As to radiation, remember the mantra TIME-DISTANCE-MASS:

TIME — keep your exposure time to the radiation source(s) low.
DISTANCE — keep your distance to the radiation source(s).
MASS — keep things with lots of mass between you and the source(s).

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:15:04pm

re: #81 The Major

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Stanley Sea  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:15:13pm

Brian Stelter liked my tweet.

OK

Ya’ll, we are not giving up when we are outraged.

Do not confuse the two.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:15:56pm

re: #83 Teukka

Duck and cover. Or as we joked back then, get down on the floor and kiss your ass goodbye.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:16:42pm
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JordanRules  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:18:12pm

re: #85 Stanley Sea

This!!!!!!!

My outrage fuels my activism at this point. Im not gonna normalize this by committing to not reacting or expressing heavy shit at times but I totally understand others not reacting the same way. We all gotta find our sanity however we can!

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teleskiguy  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:18:35pm
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William Lewis  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:20:37pm

re: #83 Teukka

1) Do not look into the right. It will blind you. Turn head or body away.
2) Begin to count seconds (I’ll explain later).
3) Get behind something mass and thickness that is solidly fixed in the ground. If that fails, any depression in the ground. Put your back towards the detonation.
4) Begin doing what you do to pressure equalize when you fly. Keep mouth open. This is to decrease the risk of being deafened by he shockwave.
5) Note seconds passed when fireball goes out. Keep counting seconds (I’ll explain later).
6) Note seconds passed when shockwave arrives (see below). Remember that there can be two shockwaves, one going out, the other coming back in.
7) Prepare mentally to be traumatized by what you see.

Counting the duration of the fireball gives a rule-of-thumb value of the yield of the device. The time between start of fireball to shockwave gives you the rough distance to hypocenter (remember that the shockwave can travel faster than the speed of sound for a bit).

As to radiation, remember the mantra TIME-DISTANCE-MASS:

TIME — keep your exposure time to the radiation source(s) low.
DISTANCE — keep your distance to the radiation source(s).
MASS — keep things with lots of mass between you and the source(s).

Bingo.

This remains the best open source manual of what will happen in the event of another nuclear weapon being used. This is the 3rd edition of 1977:

Hmm. Not the whole document like I thought. I’ll look for it.
Ah, each chapter is a file. Change 3 to 1 through 12 if you wish the rest of it.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:20:38pm

re: #88 JordanRules

This!!!!!!!

My outrage fuels my activism at this point. Im not gonna normalize this by committing to not reacting or expressing heavy shit at times but I totally understand others not reacting the same way. We all gotta find our sanity however we can!

Exactly.

#BadGerman

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Jay C  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:20:39pm

re: #66 The Major

WE can only hope that the Presidential Physical will reveal something that MAY give something. that someone can use as a cudgel to go after Trump and make Trump really go off his rocker….

I wouldn’t count on it: my guess is that the fix is already in for the P.P.: either the official report will state that Trump is the healthiest healthy President who ever had health; or that the info is too “classified to release to the “Fake News Press”, and that they will just (like with everything else) have to take the POTUS’ word for it….

Extra prediction: if Trump doesn’t make some stupid crack about being in great shape from playing all that golf, Sarah Sanders will….

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ObserverArt  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:20:51pm

re: #82 Ace Rothstein

I wan to see the NYT and the WaPo do it.

You said no one.

Time to go. I can’t take it. I admit it.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:21:51pm
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PhillyPretzel  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:22:13pm

re: #83 Teukka

re: #90 William Lewis

Thank you. I hope and pray we will not need it.

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teleskiguy  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:23:11pm

re: #94 The Vicious Babushka

One of the darkest endings to a South Park episode of all time, right up there with Scott Tenorman.

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ipsos  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:23:26pm

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:23:34pm
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FormerDirtDart  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:24:37pm
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Ace Rothstein  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:24:38pm

re: #98 FormerDirtDart

He’s right.

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Skip Intro  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:25:29pm

re: #100 Ace Rothstein

That’s why Fox was created.

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JordanRules  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:27:13pm

re: #93 ObserverArt

Seriously?
You gotta let people react man. His comments weren’t even that bleak geez.
And its not a secret that the press has issues calling a lie a lie and a liar a liar…if they are Republicans.
I appreciate LO and Joy cause they are really the only ones who say it straight up.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:27:41pm

re: #97 ipsos

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Charles Johnson  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:28:29pm
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JordanRules  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:29:09pm

re: #95 PhillyPretzel

Agreed I legit appreciate this information and hope to store it away into the bar trivia part of my brain sooner rather than later.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:29:26pm
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William Lewis  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:29:29pm

re: #100 Ace Rothstein

He’s right.

I’ve always considered Rupert Murdoch to be an enemy of all humanity & of democracy in particular. SOB has done more to kill the world than anyone else.

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William Lewis  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:30:41pm

re: #97 ipsos

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JordanRules  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:31:11pm

re: #97 ipsos

Im so sorry Ipsos. I hope things surprise you and turn around.
{{{{{}}}}}

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Stanley Sea  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:34:04pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:34:09pm

...

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majii  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:34:20pm

re: #76 JordanRules

re: #74 HappyWarrior

“Yup and she’ll run with the “joke” bullshit too.”

Exactly, the same way she was forced to walk back the Yam’s ”deep state” tweet about the DOJ earlier today in her presser by saying the Yam doesn’t believe the entire DOJ is a part of the deep state. Neither she nor the Yam could explain the meaning of the word deep state, if they were asked to define it. They’re two pitiful peas in a pitiful pod of ignorance.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:35:39pm

re: #106 Charles Johnson

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As Jeff Toobin said, if anyone has a bone with the media and Comey, it’s her.

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teleskiguy  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:35:41pm

At times this week there’s been a -90° F wind chill factor on Mt. Washington in New Hampshire. That’s -35° F with 110 mph winds. Incredible.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:35:57pm

It’s too soon to panic. I’ll tell you when to panic.

The chances of a nuclear exchange are not even 1/100th of what they were in 1962. Unlax.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:36:09pm

re: #97 ipsos

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CleverToad  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:36:35pm

re: #97 ipsos

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ObserverArt  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:37:30pm

re: #102 JordanRules

Seriously?
You gotta let people react man. His comments weren’t even that bleak geez.
And its not a secret that the press has issues calling a lie a lie and a liar a liar…if they are Republicans.
I appreciate LO and Joy cause they are really the only ones who say it straight up.

My comment made in jest. He did say no one. And I went with the “no need to put up a / for snark” rule.

Sorry.

And the reason I am leaving is for this reason: your comment. Am I not allowed to react too?

So, now I get criticized for not letting people react, and other times my reactions are melodramatic.

Can you not see how frustrating it can be? It really gets to point where I do not know what to say in some of these threads anymore.

So when everyone is “reacting” this negatively, it is best to back out. And I did, but I made the mistake of continuing to read, so I came back to answer you.

It makes me sad. So I go.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:38:12pm

re: #118 ObserverArt

My comment made in jest. He did say no one. And I went with the “no need to put up a / for snark” rule.

Sorry.

And the reason I am leaving is for this reason: your comment. Am I not allowed to react too?

So, now I get criticized for not letting people react, and other times my reactions are melodramatic.

Can you not see how frustrating it can be? It really gets to point where I do not know what to say in some of these threads anymore.

So when everyone is “reacting” this negatively, it is best to back out. And I did, but I made the mistake of continuing to read, so I came back to answer you.

It makes me sad. So I go.

You’re not the only one commenting less because of things, for what it is worth.

/hugs

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makeitstop  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:38:55pm

re: #110 Stanley Sea

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Worth revisiting this thread from this morning.

This guy has got Trump’s number.

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Kragar  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:41:43pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:43:13pm

re: #121 Kragar

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Impeach then arrest and throw away the key.

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Skip Intro  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:45:04pm

I’ll just leave this here for future use.

We’ll Meet Again Dr. Strangelove

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JordanRules  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:45:04pm

re: #118 ObserverArt

You threaten to take your ball and go home all the time. So it’s my comment doing it now? Yeah okay.

When I need a break I just do it FWIW.

And if we were on some type of gloom spectrum Im much more closely aligned with your outlook but sometimes it gets rough and for people who arent like that ALL the time, I try to grant some understanding.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:45:06pm

re: #97 ipsos

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Stanley Sea  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:45:30pm

re: #118 ObserverArt

Come on.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:46:45pm

re: #119 klys (maker of Silmarils)

You’re not the only one commenting less because of things, for what it is worth.

/hugs

Ya’ll need to be stronger.

Seriously.

Thoughts change with debate.

But again, my outrage is not surrender.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:47:25pm

re: #127 Stanley Sea

Ya’ll need to be stronger.

Seriously.

Thoughts change with debate.

But again, my outrage is not surrender.

I wasn’t aware that what I needed to do for my personal mental health was up for debate, thanks.

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teleskiguy  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:47:50pm
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calochortus  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:48:14pm

Seems we could all stand to take a deep breath and try to relax?
We all deal with things the best we can and in general, I think our role here is to support each other.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:48:46pm

re: #130 calochortus

Seems we could all stand to take a deep breath and try to relax?
We all deal with things the best we can and in general, I think our role here is to support each other.

Preach.

[Raises glass.]

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makeitstop  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:49:02pm

Deep breaths, everybody.

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mmmirele  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:49:06pm

Maybe it’s time to ask leaders of sane countries, like Merkel and Macron, to use whatever big hammers they have to threaten Twitter unless Trump goes. I’m dead serious.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:52:11pm

re: #124 JordanRules

You threaten to take your ball and go home all the time. So it’s my comment doing it now? Yeah okay.

When I need a break I just do it FWIW.

And if we were on some type of gloom spectrum Im much more closely aligned with your outlook but sometimes it gets rough and for people who arent like that ALL the time, I try to grant some understanding.

Reposted for a re-read.

Thank you.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:53:12pm

re: #128 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I wasn’t aware that what I needed to do for my personal mental health was up for debate, thanks.

You opined, I opined back. Nothing personal of course!

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SteelPH  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:55:04pm

re: #133 mmmirele

Maybe it’s time to ask leaders of sane countries, like Merkel and Macron, to use whatever big hammers they have to threaten Twitter unless Trump goes. I’m dead serious.

They’d probably get banned in response.

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Cheechako  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:55:50pm

Putting on my conspiracy hat, I wonder if Mueller had a super seckret court order issued to twitter ordering them to NOT remove trump’s twitter account. trumps tweets are some of the best material a Prosecutor could have. trump has passed out a lot of good leads through twitter..

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:56:25pm
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Stanley Sea  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:57:38pm

re: #137 Cheechako

Putting on my conspiracy hat, I wonder if Mueller had a super seckret court order issued to twitter ordering them to NOT remove trump’s twitter account. trumps tweets are some of the best material a Prosecutor could have. trump has passed out a lot of good leads through twitter..

He IS potus, you’d figure he knows more than we do about the investigation.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 2, 2018 • 6:59:08pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:00:19pm

re: #140 Charles Johnson

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They need to be made to own Trump for at least a generation. As long as anyone who was part of the apparatus that got Trump nominated and then elected lives in the GOP, they need to be likened to Trump.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:00:53pm

re: #140 Charles Johnson

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I think, in future times, the eventual destruction of the Republican Party will find its roots in the build-up from the Southern Strategy to Trump. I do truly believe that the party will eventually fall apart, and it will be because they went full wingnut. And as we have preached here for ten years now, you never go full wingnut.

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makeitstop  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:01:04pm

re: #139 Stanley Sea

He IS potus, you’d figure he knows more than we do about the investigation.

Hey, something wound his watch today. Maybe it is just that he wasn’t allowed to go golfing today.

Maybe it’s not.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:01:06pm

Who remembers Mandy? And Cato? Walter?

Jeasuus Christo, the arguments.

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William Lewis  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:02:12pm

re: #144 Stanley Sea

Who remembers Mandy? And Cato? Walter?

Jeasuus Christo, the arguments.

Cato - him I miss. The other 2 can go piss up a rope.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:02:28pm

re: #145 William Lewis

Cato - him I miss. The other 2 can go piss up a rope.

*WHACK!*

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Kragar  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:02:54pm
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Decatur Deb  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:03:07pm

Memeorandum is not showing any interest in the schlong-fight, and only CNN, Fox, and Forbes are giving it a lot of play.

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SteelPH  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:03:43pm

re: #144 Stanley Sea

Who remembers Mandy? And Cato? Walter?

Nope.
//

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Cheechako  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:03:51pm

I miss Hoosier Hoops. Enjoyed his tornado reports.

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William Lewis  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:04:20pm

re: #146 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

*WHACK!*

hahahahahahahahahahaahahhahhaha! ah, if I had a cat, he’d be scared right now.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:04:53pm

re: #150 Cheechako

I miss Hoosier Hoops. Enjoyed his tornado reports.

Hoosier Hoops wasn’t a wingnut.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:05:35pm

re: #144 Stanley Sea

Who remembers Mandy? And Cato? Walter?

Jeasuus Christo, the arguments.

Or Obdicut and I?

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Cheechako  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:06:22pm

re: #152 Big Beautiful Door

Hoosier Hoops wasn’t a wingnut.

I know. Seems like he retired, moved to a cottage on a lake, and was never heard from again.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:06:31pm

re: #152 Big Beautiful Door

Hoosier Hoops wasn’t a wingnut.

Neither was Cato. Don’t see that as a RWNJ list.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:06:43pm

re: #151 William Lewis

hahahahahahahahahahaahahhahhaha! ah, if I had a cat, he’d be scared right now.

Ayup. That’s where I got that schtick from. I used to like Mandy, back in the day. Before she went eleven kinds of Islamophobic crazy and got her ass banned.

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ObserverArt  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:08:07pm

re: #124 JordanRules

You threaten to take your ball and go home all the time. So it’s my comment doing it now? Yeah okay.

When I need a break I just do it FWIW.

And if we were on some type of gloom spectrum Im much more closely aligned with your outlook but sometimes it gets rough and for people who arent like that ALL the time, I try to grant some understanding.

Leaving is a way to grant some understanding, it prevents me from commenting and opens the floor to let it rip. There is no need to rattle cages. I learned that a few months ago. And yet cages were rattled.

But funny thing, I think Ace understood. He updinged the “you said no one” comment that bothered you.

I guess my mistake is mentioning that I am getting frustrated with it all and saying I am taking off.

Signed: Damned frustrated by it all.

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William Lewis  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:08:14pm

re: #153 Unshaken Defiance

Or Obdicut and I?

He and I occasionally mixed it up too. Usually the same topic, wonder why … < whistles innocently >

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:08:17pm

The only Lizard from back in the day that I miss now is SFZ.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:08:51pm

re: #145 William Lewis

Cato - him I miss. The other 2 can go piss up a rope.

He immediately went over to the stalker blog and joined in their obsessive festivities.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:09:26pm

re: #155 Decatur Deb

Neither was Cato. Don’t see that as a RWNJ list.

My bad. As a Kentucky BBall fan, I miss HH too.

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SteelPH  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:09:38pm

I miss CL..

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:09:41pm

re: #160 Charles Johnson

He immediately went over to the stalker blog and joined in their obsessive festivities.

Ugh. I haven’t thought about those fuckers in a long time. I imagine they are shitting themselves with glee about Trump.

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William Lewis  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:09:57pm

re: #160 Charles Johnson

He immediately went over to the stalker blog and joined in their obsessive festivities.

Pity. I never knew that till just now. I’ll have to light a candle to what was rather than what is.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:11:20pm
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William Lewis  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:11:38pm

re: #159 The Vicious Babushka

The only Lizard from back in the day that I miss now is SFZ.

I wonder what she’d think if she knew I’ve quoted her in two sermons :D Hey, it’s a good lesson on God’s hands in this world, my people need to learn it.

And, yes, I miss her too.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:11:38pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:11:44pm

re: #162 SteelPH

I miss CL..

She even took breaks when things were getting too negative for her and would say so too.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:12:05pm

re: #160 Charles Johnson

He immediately went over to the stalker blog and joined in their obsessive festivities.

There’s some kind of new social-media psychology at play there. I don’t think some of them were drawn there for the politics.

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Belafon  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:12:31pm

Any 3D printer people here? I bought a printer, printed out a few pretty things, but now, I’m having trouble getting the filament to stay on the plate. I’ve only had it about a week, so I don’t think it has anything to do with the print bed or anything that. About the only difference is that the house is cooler than it was last week. I’ve cleaned the extruder.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:12:38pm

re: #164 William Lewis

Pity. I never knew that till just now. I’ll have to light a candle to what was rather than what is.

Its truly bizarre that Charles owns so much rent free space is their obsessive little minds.

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meteor  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:13:36pm

G’night, everybody.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:13:43pm

I miss CL of course, but of the living, Obdicut and SFZ, and yes RDT.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:13:46pm

re: #159 The Vicious Babushka

The only Lizard from back in the day that I miss now is SFZ.

There are many to miss—some quite pleasant, others obnoxious in interesting ways. SFZ left a CL-sized hole.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:13:51pm

re: #140 Charles Johnson

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JordanRules  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:15:07pm

re: #157 ObserverArt


We’ll be continuing to fight the same fight regardless.
So onward to the Blue Tsunami!

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:16:49pm

re: #152 Big Beautiful Door

Hoosier Hoops wasn’t a wingnut.

I miss him. Nice guy. I liked talking basketball with him.

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blueraven  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:17:29pm

Albusteve and KT had their good moments too.

Then KT went full on Troll.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:18:02pm

Anyway, if/when I disappear again (seems likely), for those that care there are a few Lizards who have my e-mail address and can check in with me that way and of course my Twitter has stayed active the last several times.

I miss everyone a lot but some days I just can’t and if that makes me weak, well, I can’t change what you think of me but it’s nice to know all the same.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:18:16pm

WUB was a riot. I liked talking brew with him since he was based out of Portland.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:18:22pm

re: #170 Belafon

Any 3D printer people here? I bought a printer, printed out a few pretty things, but now, I’m having trouble getting the filament to stay on the plate. I’ve only had it about a week, so I don’t think it has anything to do with the print bed or anything that. About the only difference is that the house is cooler than it was last week. I’ve cleaned the extruder.

I bought one, but they failed to ship it, so now I have 14 spools of filament and no printer. I’ll get a nice one in March when I have an extra paycheck.

Some people use glue stick to get the first layer to stick to the plate.

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retired cynic  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:18:24pm

Here’s an essay from Nancy LeTourneau that I found good (meaning it confirmed my prejudices and made them clearer to me—-LOL). Power With vs. Power Over.

You can’t look at power without looking at patriarchy. Patriarchy — domination of men over women- has been around for about 5,000 years, which is relatively short in human history. It has been perpetuated by the idea that the inequality in power is inherent, and has been a foundation for dividing us in other ways, including race, class, country of origin, religion and sexuality. But patriarchy arose out of a complex set of historical conditions, overcoming the primarily egalitarian relationships of indigenous cultures that preceded it - therefore we know it can be transformed. At the Omega Women’s Leadership Center we believe it’s time to move away from “power over” to “power with.”~Carla Goldstein

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:18:50pm

re: #178 blueraven

Albusteve and KT had their good moments too.

Then KT went full on Troll.

KT was disappointing in the end. I know Steve had his health problems but he always rubbed me the wrong way.

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plansbandc  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:19:44pm

re: #162 SteelPH

Every day.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:19:46pm

re: #179 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Anyway, if/when I disappear again (seems likely), for those that care there are a few Lizards who have my e-mail address and can check in with me that way and of course my Twitter has stayed active the last several times.

I miss everyone a lot but some days I just can’t and if that makes me weak, well, I can’t change what you think of me but it’s nice to know all the same.

Not going to change what I think of you. We all respond to things differently. And you helped me grow as a person last year and the year before that.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:19:49pm

re: #183 HappyWarrior

KT was disappointing in the end. I know Steve had his health problems but he always rubbed me the wrong way.

Because he was an ass. People who have good moments are awful the rest of the time.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:20:04pm

Long while since Ice and Jimmeh checked in. This is turning to a New Year’s mope.

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Interesting Times  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:20:12pm

re: #173 Unshaken Defiance

I miss CL of course, but of the living, Obdicut and SFZ, and yes RDT.

RDT went full trumpchump :(

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SteelPH  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:20:12pm

re: #183 HappyWarrior

KT was disappointing in the end. I know Steve had his health problems but he always rubbed me the wrong way.

Albusteve had a habit of taking his frustrations with his condition out on us.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:20:16pm

re: #184 plansbandc

Every day.

Y’all are going to make me cry again.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:20:55pm

re: #179 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I miss everyone a lot but some days I just can’t and if that makes me weak, well, I can’t change what you think of me but it’s nice to know all the same.

Come and go as you need, I will never think less of you for it. And I hope you still have my email.

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Belafon  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:22:10pm

re: #175 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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It won’t be over at the end of this year, but I think quite a few of the remaining 70% have realized they have to do something, and we’ve already started seeing results.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:22:26pm

re: #189 SteelPH

Albustever had a habit of taking his frustrations with his condition out on us.

Eh. Cheap therapy. I most remember the spectacular American Pie video his daughter put together.

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Belafon  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:22:30pm

What’s the status on the Virginia elections?

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sagehen  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:22:35pm

re: #167 Charles Johnson

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But the devastation of conventional war would be Not Here, so a lot of people don’t really care.

That’s been the US experience of war generally, for about 120 years — our soldiers go someplace really far away, the rest of us read about it or look at pictures, and when it’s over 97% of our troops come home. So when talk of war happens, we don’t have the visceral reaction common in places that have suffered air raids, artillery battles, occupation, etc.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:23:01pm

Shit I even liked talking history with DF at times. He did frustrate me often especially in the end.

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Amory Blaine  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:23:25pm

The button only looks big next to his tiny hands.

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retired cynic  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:23:25pm

re: #191 Unshaken Defiance

Come and go as you need, I will never think less of you for it. And i hope you still have my email.

We all have to do what we need to do to keep ourselves sane. Some of us talk it out, others withdraw. I don’t comment a lot, but I follow everything. Probably should do less of that and spend more time “working.” Sorting through the detritus around here more would be a good thing!

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teleskiguy  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:23:48pm

Fuckface Von Clownstick uses Twitter to threaten nuclear holocaust. The snow depth at the ski area is 12 inches with one short run open… in the first week of January. Yeah, I’m depressed.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:24:12pm

re: #193 Decatur Deb

Eh. Cheap therapy. I most remember the spectacular American Pie video his daughter put together.

He was actually usually pretty pleasant to me but I got rubbed the wrong way when he’d get annoyed at political talk. Sad to hear he’s gone to the stalker blog though. He didn’t strike me as a bad guy. Just a bit of a grump in some ways.

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Interesting Times  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:24:44pm

re: #195 sagehen

But the devastation of conventional war would be Not Here, so a lot of people don’t really care.

Er…maybe tell them LG and Samsung are South Korean companies, so bye-bye favorite gadgets…?

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SteelPH  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:24:50pm

re: #196 HappyWarrior

Shit I even liked talking history with DF at times. He did frustrate me often especially in the end.

Yeah. Despite my misgivings with him, I never actually hated him. Still don’t.
He has such potential for good, but squanders it with his “ra ra go team” attitude with the GOP.

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JordanRules  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:25:08pm

This site generally has a great balance to me and I really appreciate that.

I understand it doesn’t feel like that to others so you gotta focus on self-care.

Wishing everybody peace!

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William Lewis  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:26:37pm

re: #196 HappyWarrior

Shit I even liked talking history with DF at times. He did frustrate me often especially in the end.

I liked him too but in too many ways he was like my mirror universe double. I still run into him at a tank blog I enjoy but it’s not the same since I don’t care to go political there.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:26:38pm

Okay you guys know what a big Genealogy nerd I am. I talked with one of my DNA matches. His grandmother has the same maiden name as my Dad’s paternal grandmother. Here’s the fun thing and I guess when while I’m a proud American, I truly am seeing that citizen of the world stuff. His great grandfather unlike Dad’s great grandfather went to the UK. It’s funny though. Both his great grandfather and another brother who went to the UK were bakers. My second great grandfather was a blacksmith. Heh two totally different jobs.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:27:08pm

re: #202 SteelPH

Yeah. Despite my misgivings with him, I never actually hated him. Still don’t.
He has such potential for good, but squanders it with his “ra ra go team” attitude with the GOP.

I almost pitied him when he talked about how he worried about his family’s reaction if he abandoned the GOP.

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Amory Blaine  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:27:52pm

The press is writing lists on how to better appease their abuser in the White House. We’re all due some slack.

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Interesting Times  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:28:14pm

Is there a laugh/cry emoji? :/

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:28:34pm

re: #204 William Lewis

I liked him too but in too many ways he was like my mirror universe double. I still run into him at a tank blog I enjoy but it’s not the same since I don’t care to go political there.

It’s frustrating because he’s not a dumb person or incapable of caring. But he just could be so frustrating because I feel he could not empathize and didn’t want to learn to. Teh partisanship sucked but the inability to empathize for someone other than a White Cook County conservative.

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William Lewis  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:28:46pm

re: #206 HappyWarrior

I almost pitied him when he talked about how he worried about his family’s reaction if he abandoned the GOP.

I actually did because it really is the abusive key to understanding DF.

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teleskiguy  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:29:27pm

totally normal not at all unusual climate change is a hoax outrageous lie shut up

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:31:12pm

re: #210 William Lewis

I actually did because it really is the abusive key to understanding DF.

Yeah true.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:31:44pm

re: #210 William Lewis

I actually did because it really is the abusive key to understanding DF.

The thing with DF is, I understood him. You know my folks are in the same place. But I chose to make my stand; my folks already know I’m not a good little Republican soldier, though they don’t know the extent of my betrayal just yet. I’m afraid of what would happen if my dad finds out, but you know what, I also can’t really care about it, in the end. Doing what’s right is more important than my inheritance or my standing with my parents. In the end, I think they will understand, even though they will disagree.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:32:23pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:33:11pm

re: #213 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The thing with DF is, I understood him. You know my folks are in the same place. But I chose to make my stand; my folks already know I’m not a good little Republican soldier, though they don’t know the extent of my betrayal just yet. I’m afraid of what would happen if my dad finds out, but you know what, I also can’t really care about it, in the end. Doing what’s right is more important than my inheritance or my standing with my parents. In the end, I think they will understand, even though they will disagree.

That’s why while I did feel bad, I couldn’t give him a pass for it.

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Cheechako  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:33:34pm

re: #211 teleskiguy

totally normal not at all unusual climate change is a hoax outrageous lie shut up

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I was just checking my town…38F and raining hard. The “Pineapple Express” is in high gear bringing in moisture from Hawaii.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:33:39pm

re: #211 teleskiguy

totally normal not at all unusual climate change is a hoax outrageous lie shut up

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It’s pretty warm in the Sierras for my brother, SiL, and niece too.

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Interesting Times  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:34:02pm

re: #208 Interesting Times

And from the replies to that tweet (since we could all use a little juvenile-yet-accurate humor right about now):

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:34:45pm

re: #207 Amory Blaine

The press is writing lists on how to better appease their abuser in the White House. We’re all due some slack.

We all agree more than we don’t. Just need to take a breath sometimes.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:37:17pm

re: #215 HappyWarrior

That’s why while I did feel bad, I couldn’t give him a pass for it.

Exactly my point. DF made the wrong choice, in the end. He let the fear of disappointing family override his sense of moral duty.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:39:32pm

re: #220 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Exactly my point. DF made the wrong choice, in the end. He let the fear of disappointing family override his sense of moral duty.

Oh I know. Just explaining why I didn’t give him a pass.

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JordanRules  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:40:06pm

Fun little daydreams!

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Decatur Deb  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:41:11pm

re: #214 Charles Johnson

That tweet by Dan Zak is somewhat optimistic. He’s probably counting launch vehicles, not warheads. Wiki is as good as anything, and they propose 1411 deployable weapons.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:41:43pm

re: #194 Belafon

What’s the status on the Virginia elections?

Last I heard, the GOP is up 50-49 in the House of Delegates with one district tied. They are supposed to draw lots to determine the winner, but that has been delayed while the Democrat appeals the decision which awarded an arguably ambiguous ballot to the Republican. But that was before the New Year; I haven’t heard any updates since last week.

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Cheechako  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:43:17pm

re: #222 JordanRules

Casey stole my idea. Posted the same mime over a year ago. (I’m not so insecure that I have to look it up, so I won’t!)

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:43:28pm

re: #224 Big Beautiful Door

Last I heard, the GOP is up 50-49 in the House of Delegates with one district tied. They are supposed to draw lots to determine the winner, but that has been delayed while the Democrat appeals the decision which awarded an arguably ambiguous ballot to the Republican. But that was before the New Year; I haven’t heard any updates since last week.

I think the Republican got that final seat. There was an article about it in the Post’s Metro section the other day. Meh. Sucks but I couldn’t be happier about Virginia’s future.

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JordanRules  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:44:10pm

re: #225 Cheechako

I like the way both of your minds think!

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:45:22pm

re: #220 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Exactly my point. DF made the wrong choice, in the end. He let the fear of disappointing family override his sense of moral duty.

I don’t think it was a choice. He’s a robot, who was always going to do what his father programmed him to do. He’d try to act like a normal person here, because he was too stubborn to move on when LGF stopped being a wingnut site, and he wanted to be accepted, but no matter what he said here, he always pulled the lever for Republicans, no matter how odious.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:45:48pm

So under Obama there were no commercial airline deaths at all. Betcha if Obama even so much as mentioned that off handly, FNC would have gone ballistic. It’s great that we continued this but as one of the guys said on CNN, we have not Trump to thank for that but thousands of people. Every time I fly, I’m thankful to the air traffic controllers not just the pilots and flight crews for their professionalism. I actually briefly worked in the Dulles tower as an intern in high school doing office work.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:46:20pm

re: #228 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I don’t think it was a choice. He’s a robot, who was always going to do what his father programmed him to do. He’d try to act like a normal person here, because he was too stubborn to move on when LGF stopped being a wingnut site, and he wanted to be accepted, but no matter what he said here, he always pulled the lever for Republicans, no matter how odious.

Dunno how much you know about me, but I was in that mold until my mental programming got broken back in college. I mean, you’re right, but it’s depressing to me because it’s literally a case of, “There, but for the grace of God, go I.”

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:46:26pm

re: #226 HappyWarrior

I think the Republican got that final seat. There was an article about it in the Post’s Metro section the other day. Meh. Sucks but I couldn’t be happier about Virginia’s future.

I just found an article that says the lots will be drawn on January 4 to determine the winner,

washingtonexaminer.com

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:47:42pm

re: #228 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I don’t think it was a choice. He’s a robot, who was always going to do what his father programmed him to do. He’d try to act like a normal person here, because he was too stubborn to move on when LGF stopped being a wingnut site, and he wanted to be accepted, but no matter what he said here, he always pulled the lever for Republicans, no matter how odious.

I think you got it right unfortunately. He wanted to stay because he did have friends here and he could be civil but he was as you say in the end a soldier for the GOP first and foremost. It’s really sad because I really thought the 2016 madness would make him really think about what he’d be doing for the GOP. But when he said he voted for Cruz after months of telling us that he’d never vote for him, I lost all respect at all. He treated some individual Lizards pretty shabbly too.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:48:03pm

re: #231 Big Beautiful Door

I just found an article that says the lots will be drawn on January 4 to determine the winner,

washingtonexaminer.com

Oh phew.

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SteelPH  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:49:19pm

re: #228 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

He did vote for Trump, despite constant insistence that he wouldn’t…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:50:07pm

re: #224 Big Beautiful Door

re: #226 HappyWarrior

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:50:44pm

re: #234 SteelPH

He did vote for Trump, despite constant insistence that he wouldn’t…

Ah, did he confirm that? Not surprised after he admitted to voting for Cruz here. It’s probably for the best for him that he doesn’t come back. I probably wouldn’t be too nice to him. I could accept the Romney/Rubio sucking up but Trump? I just can’t.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:50:57pm

re: #235 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Danke!

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teleskiguy  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:50:57pm

On my way to work, at six this morning, I saw one of the brightest full moons I’ve ever seen in the western sky. It was simply gorgeous set against a backdrop of the steep cliffs of the Glenwood Canyon, coming into view only every now and again because of the topography. And when it came into view, this huge white disk in the sky, it was an ethereal sight. One of the most surreal commutes of my life.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:51:27pm

re: #236 HappyWarrior

Ah, did he confirm that? Not surprised after he admitted to voting for Cruz here. It’s probably for the best for him that he doesn’t come back. I probably wouldn’t be too nice to him. I could accept the Romney/Rubio sucking up but Trump? I just can’t.

Did I tell you that fishfolk were in favor of Rubio? It made me giggle. Doubly so when the Trump-thing wound up winning, and they fell into line like the Republican lapdogs they are.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:52:29pm

re: #150 Cheechako

I miss Hoosier Hoops. Enjoyed his tornado reports.

Insane miss.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:53:24pm

Some fast-talkin’ mofo on Anderson Cooper describing Trump’s “very successful first year”.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:53:53pm
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Stanley Sea  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:54:36pm

re: #159 The Vicious Babushka

The only Lizard from back in the day that I miss now is SFZ.

Is she a mother of 3 by now???? I wonder. & yes, I miss her much.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:55:14pm

re: #160 Charles Johnson

He immediately went over to the stalker blog and joined in their obsessive festivities.

Still?

I never look.

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jaunte  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:55:28pm
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Stanley Sea  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:55:48pm

re: #162 SteelPH

I miss CL..

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:56:36pm

re: #239 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Did I tell you that fishfolk were in favor of Rubio? It made me giggle. Doubly so when the Trump-thing wound up winning, and they fell into line like the Republican lapdogs they are.

Rubio amused me. Just so fucking lame. “Don’t think President Obama doesn’t know what he’s doing, he KNOWS exactly what he’s doing.” Christie mocked him for that as he shuld have. Rubio was nothing but a GOP establishment stalking horse in case Jeb failed.

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teleskiguy  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:57:38pm

I shed many tears at the news of CuriousLurker’s passing. I’ve never been torn up more over a person I never met and only interacted with on the internet.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:58:03pm

You know what kills me with this whole thing? Trump doesn’t even have a fucking nuclear button. He’s jealous that Kim does and he wants that ultimate power.

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SteelPH  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:58:45pm

re: #248 teleskiguy

I shed many tears at the news of CuriousLurker’s passing. I’ve never been torn up more over a person I never met and only interacted with on the internet.

Seriously. She even reached out to me when I had my big breakdown in 2016. I’ll never forget her and the kindness she showed.

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The Major  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:59:09pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 2, 2018 • 7:59:25pm

re: #244 Stanley Sea

Still?

I never look.

Charles lives rent free in their heads 24/7, and we almost never refer to them here.

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Belafon  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:00:25pm

re: #245 jaunte

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:01:35pm

re: #249 GlutenFreeJesus

You know what kills me with this whole thing? Trump doesn’t even have a fucking nuclear button. He’s jealous that Kim does.

[SCENE: Oval Office. TRUMP is flailing and throwing a fit behind the Resolute desk.]

TRUMP: Look, I don’t see what’s so hard about this! Take a goddamn Easy button, put some wires on it, and make it shoot some missiles!
GATTIS: Sir, I really —
TRUMP: [Interrupting] I DON’T FUCKING CARE! DO IT! KIM JONG-UN HAS ONE AND I’LL BE DAMNED IF THAT KOREAN MOTHERFUCKER CAN DO SOMETHING I CAN’T!!!

[GATTIS buries his face in his hands and slowly exits.]

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:02:03pm

re: #248 teleskiguy

I shed many tears at the news of CuriousLurker’s passing. I’ve never been torn up more over a person I never met and only interacted with on the internet.

She was such a great person. Me and her couldn’t be anymore different. Me being only 30 and younger than her son and a secular minded guy but she was always sweet to me. She offered such an unique perspective here and was a friend to so many. I also liked hearing her cab driver stories. My Dad was a cab driver when I was a little kid and later an Uber Driver for a time. One of my favorite stories from CL involved her telling off some bigoted passengers in her cab. She was a tough lady but also considerate to those she cared about. Makes me so sad that she’s not with us and many more obituaries I’d rather wish I’d read remain unread.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:02:38pm

re: #253 Belafon

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Trump really fucked up with the TPP withdrawal and it’s why I got so annoyed at Sanders.

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VegasGolfer  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:02:46pm

nytimes.com

Good opinion piece by the owners of Fusion GPS

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JordanRules  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:03:16pm

re: #252 Big Beautiful Door

This is one of the things I’ve learned here from Charles and OG lizards. They really don’t like it when someone leaves them behind. It’s way more cult-like than I was aware of before LGF was in my life.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:04:48pm

re: #256 HappyWarrior

Trump really fucked up with the TPP withdrawal and it’s why I got so annoyed at Sanders.

I’m not sure it could’ve passed anyway; even Clinton came out against it because of the political winds.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:04:54pm

I’m not a free trade absolutist but I’ve come to see why Trump and Sanders’ approach on trade is wrong.

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teleskiguy  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:05:32pm
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makeitstop  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:05:33pm

The Rude One is, as usual, on it.

Apparently, “much work to do,” as President Donald Trump proclaimed he would be heading back to DC for after spending most of the last two weeks golfing and, presumably, attempting to fuck Melania (per her contractual obligations) only to end up screaming at her for keeping her eyes open and that’s why his dick couldn’t get hard, and, no, Melania, it’s not all the fast food sodium and Diet Coke chemicals, the fuck are you talking about, means “tweeting a shit-ton.” Because that’s pretty much all Trump did today. It was like a greatest hits concert of tweets, slamming Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, North Korea, Iran, Democrats, the New York Times, and the “fake news” media. Seriously, it was like it was Skynyrd doing “Freebird” nonstop for an entire day.

rudepundit.blogspot.com

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:05:58pm

re: #259 Big Beautiful Door

I’m not sure it could’ve passed anyway; even Clinton came out against it because of the political winds.

Yeah that was disappointing. I had no problem with Sanders pushing her to the left on other stuff but the TPP issue was one that so many people left and right didn’t understand. It was an opportunity to build relationships in the Pacific Rim. We could really use that right now.

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JordanRules  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:06:41pm

re: #251 The Major

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teleskiguy  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:07:15pm

He’s watching TV.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:07:23pm

re: #206 HappyWarrior

I almost pitied him when he talked about how he worried about his family’s reaction if he abandoned the GOP.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:07:28pm

Overheard while my girls are playing Minecraft just now.

A: You’ll be a philanthropist.

M: What’s a philanthropist?

A: It’s a person who gives to charity for the sake of giving to help.

M: That wouldn’t be Donald Trump.

A: Donald Trump is a philanthropist for rich people. Actually, he’s not even a philanthropist for rich people.

Ages 12 and 10.

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The Major  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:07:35pm

re: #40 Ace Rothstein

FUCK THAT. I wish someone, ANYONE in the media would go after him like Morrow did McCarthy. CALL HIM A LIAR WHEN HE LIES!!!!

Back then you only really had CBS, NBC and ABC - and they were essentially standalone entities not tied to a much larger parent unlike they are today as some subsidiary.

Today, with everything being so highly fragmented (and with the Internet to boot), it’s nearly impossible to do that.

Don’t forget that in today’s infotainment world, news is secondary - profit is first.

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prairiefire  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:07:36pm

re: #144 Stanley Sea

Walter seems to have had a good end, getting into journalism. Lives go on. I appreciate the scope of the net. Viva 2018

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:08:58pm

re: #265 teleskiguy

He’s watching TV.

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I love how he bitches about the media but then uses media that kisses his orange ass to justify himself. Pick one, you fuckwit.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:10:53pm

re: #179 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Kragar  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:10:56pm
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prairiefire  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:11:15pm

re: #268 The Major

Profit is first and the bull in the China shop,

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:12:11pm

re: #272 Kragar

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Hey Trumpers, there’s your “tough guy joker!”

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teleskiguy  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:12:16pm

Did I mention how big and bright the moon looked at six this morning? Seriously, I won’t soon forget seeing it. It was beautiful.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:13:01pm

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William Lewis  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:13:45pm

re: #268 The Major

Don’t forget that in today’s infotainment world, news is secondary - profit is first.

It always has been. Look at the first news papers - broadsheets tied to London Coffee shops to bring the customers to them rather than competitors. Later the yellow journalism of Pulitzer & Hearst starting the Spanish American War to sell newspapers. We had a short moment of about 20 years after WWII where the journalists who had covered WWII had a bully pulpit and no competition - thus we got Morrow, Cronkite and the rest and a fantasy that journalism meant something. It doesn’t because everyone and everything is biased in someway.

The only objective journalism is the box score.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:13:47pm

The rest of the world is getting to the point where they will not take any more abuse from the Marmalade Shitcannon.

I’m sticking with what I predicted before. The Rest of the World is going to smack Trump down and totally humiliate him. First by dumping the dollar as the world’s reserve currency, second by dumping Treasury securities and third dumping US stocks and fourth imposing economic sanctions.

I’m hoping that Anonymous gets a hold of the GOP e-mails that the Russians hacked and releases them to the public so we can see what Kompromat Putin has on Republicans. Got a feeling there are plenty of kinky skeletons in their closets!

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prairiefire  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:14:16pm

re: #275 teleskiguy

Did I mention how big and bright the moon looked at six this morning? Seriously, I won’t soon forget seeing it. It was beautiful.

Me mum sent out a family email about the moon last night.

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makeitstop  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:16:11pm

re: #257 VegasGolfer

nytimes.com

Good opinion piece by the owners of Fusion GPS

That’s why Trump went off today. They pretty much came right out and said his entire operation is nothing more than a money laundering front.

Did you know that Chuck Grassley promised his constituents that he’d release that report?

We should demand that he make good on that promise.

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teleskiguy  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:19:06pm

I looked it up. It’s absolutely true.

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CleverToad  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:19:25pm

re: #230 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Dunno how much you know about me, but I was in that mold until my mental programming got broken back in college. I mean, you’re right, but it’s depressing to me because it’s literally a case of, “There, but for the grace of God, go I.”

By the grace, you also have the little fishes and a wife to give you a solid stake in the future as well as the present. Loving kids in the generation(s) below you — whether yours or someone close to you, like HW’s adored niece — gives a perspective I don’t think DF had. I don’t remember if he talked about siblings or cousins or friends with kids, a younger generation that he’s close to for support when inevitably he loses the elder. It doesn’t excuse his choices, but it’s a sad place to be.

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Kragar  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:20:20pm
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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:20:33pm

re: #275 teleskiguy

Did I mention how big and bright the moon looked at six this morning? Seriously, I won’t soon forget seeing it. It was beautiful.

I saw it last night and didn’t realize that it was a Super Moon. It was spectacular. And the only reason I got to see it was because family from out of town took me and the girls to see a fantastic band play live. Reminded me of Tower of Power and thrilled that the girls were let in!

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austin_blue  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:20:43pm

Black swan theory

The black swan theory or theory of black swan events is a metaphor that describes an event that comes as a surprise, has a major effect, and is often inappropriately rationalized after the fact with the benefit of hindsight.

The theory was developed by Nassim Nicholas Taleb to explain:

The disproportionate role of high-profile, hard-to-predict, and rare events that are beyond the realm of normal expectations in history, science, finance, and technology.

The non-computability of the probability of the consequential rare events using scientific methods (owing to the very nature of small probabilities).

The psychological biases that blind people, both individually and collectively, to uncertainty and to a rare event’s massive role in historical affairs.

Unlike the earlier and broader “black swan problem” in philosophy (i.e. the problem of induction), Taleb’s “black swan theory” refers only to unexpected events of large magnitude and consequence and their dominant role in history. Such events, considered extreme outliers, collectively play vastly larger roles than regular occurrences.[1]:xxi More technically, in the scientific monograph ‘Silent Risk’,[2] Taleb mathematically defines the black swan problem as “stemming from the use of degenerate metaprobability”.[2]

So, is Trump our Black Swan? He certainly fits the profile, and nights like tonight point to him an as agent of disaster.

I don’t know about the rest of you, but I find this pretty damn terrifying.

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The Major  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:21:13pm

re: #278 Joe Bacon 🌹

I’m hoping that Anonymous gets a hold of the GOP e-mails that the Russians hacked and releases them to the public so we can see what Kompromat Putin has on Republicans. Got a feeling there are plenty of kinky skeletons in their closets!

It does make one wonder what (if any) is Wikileaks sitting on in reagrds to any GOP hacks during the 2016 election. If it turns out they are sitting on any then they’re toast.

Assange and Hair Furor are both whiny man-children as it is anyway. Actually, Assange is far worse - he’s a proto-Ferengi….

Soon, asshole….
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FormerDirtDart  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:21:20pm

re: #272 Kragar

No

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makeitstop  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:21:52pm

re: #275 teleskiguy

Did I mention how big and bright the moon looked at six this morning? Seriously, I won’t soon forget seeing it. It was beautiful.

Supermoon. I took a photo of it setting at about 6 this morning, it was still so big and bright it woke me up shining through the window.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:22:35pm

re: #287 FormerDirtDart

No

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Nope and I just reported it, probably along with a whole bunch of other people.

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prairiefire  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:22:49pm

re: #282 CleverToad

He was under the thumb of a difficult relationship with his dad and his mother. His dad sounded like a DraGoon. A right winger.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:23:42pm

Hillary should send him that Russian reset button.

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William Lewis  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:24:21pm

re: #281 teleskiguy

I looked it up. It’s absolutely true.

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Oh that is fucking exquisite!

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teleskiguy  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:24:58pm

re: #282 CleverToad

This is an astute observation. I don’t ever recall Dark_Falcon talking about kin other than his own parents, especially his father. Not having kin a generation younger than him - kids to teach, kids to love - has negatively affected his worldview, without a doubt.

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jaunte  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:25:32pm
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Belafon  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:26:29pm

re: #261 teleskiguy

Having grown up during the cold war, near a city that was a target, all you could do is joke, and in my teenage years, plan with others about where we would have sex if the missiles were launched. You have to live like we did back then, and the way South Korea is now, and continue to live. What we have to do right now is everything we can to get him away from office.

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jaunte  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:26:46pm

May the odds be always in your favor.

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BeachDem  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:28:14pm

re: #99 FormerDirtDart

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jaunte  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:28:33pm

re: #295 Belafon

We joked in fifth grade about the futility of hiding under our desks from bombs that would be targeting the refineries 15 miles away.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:28:40pm

re: #296 jaunte

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May the odds be always in your favor.

Sean would eat Trump’s shit and then tell his audience that it tasted like the best steaks. Lumpy would be doing the same thing if Kasich or JEB! were President too though. He’s a GOP hack all the way. And when Trump falls, he’ll act like Trump was never a real conservative and that he didn’t suck up to him relentlessly.

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The Major  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:30:09pm
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jaunte  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:30:17pm

“Put your heads down, children.”
“But teacher, that’s a wall of glass windows next to us. It won’t matter.”

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prairiefire  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:30:20pm

re: #298 jaunte

But what about your water?

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jaunte  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:31:18pm

re: #302 prairiefire

?

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jaunte  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:31:43pm
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jaunte  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:32:34pm

I was hoping we’d be farther along by now.

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:34:18pm

re: #301 jaunte

“Put your heads down, children.”
“But teacher, that’s a wall of glass windows next to us. It won’t matter.”

We had heavy canvas “blast” curtains the teacher would pull shut during the drill, of course being dark they would instantly burst into flames from the fireball well before the blast shattered the windows.

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prairiefire  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:35:15pm

re: #303 jaunte

Do you have higher levels of heavy metals, or any changes in regulated levels? Houston is infamous for being regulation free. What if some pipes got broken?

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BeachDem  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:35:56pm

One more from Charlie, because I have been gobsmacked all day seeing comments from Dems (not here, but elsewhere) talking about what an honorable man Mittens is.

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whitebeach  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:36:51pm

re: #298 jaunte

We joked in fifth grade about the futility of hiding under our desks from bombs that would be targeting the refineries 15 miles away.

We joked too, and we were less than five miles from the headquarters of the Strategic Air Command. There’s really only one difference between the President of the United States and a bunch of dopey grade-school jerkoffs joking about nuclear war: Only one of them has the power to make it happen.

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The Major  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:37:47pm

Benjy is a real moron….

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jaunte  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:38:32pm

re: #307 prairiefire

You mean currently? There are a number of different water sources, both wells and surface, depending on where you are in Houston. Each treatment plant does operate under regulation of either the city or the village government responsible. I have not heard of any problems or loosening of regulations (yet).

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:38:40pm

re: #308 BeachDem

One more from Charlie, because I have been gobsmacked all day seeing comments from Dems (not here, but elsewhere) talking about what an honorable man Mittens is.

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I was disappointed how McMullin immediately supported Mitt after Hatch stepped down. Mitt’s part of the problem.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:40:00pm

re: #310 The Major

Benjy is a real moron….

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I can’t wait for that litlte pissant to be irrelevant and yesterday’s news. He’s such a two faced asshole and he’s nowhere near as clever or witty as he thinks he is. By the way Benny, YOU are part of the media, you Children of the Corn cosplayer.

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teleskiguy  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:40:01pm

The mind of a Fuckface Von Clownstick fluffer…

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jaunte  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:40:45pm

re: #314 teleskiguy

Jacob Wohl lives in Toontown.

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prairiefire  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:41:16pm

re: #305 jaunte

Sigh. Me mum is 81, auntie 71. So discouraging for the gals who burned their bras (figuratively} in the 70’s
To have to do it all over again 40 Yeats later. I hope the youngsters have a clue.

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prairiefire  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:42:05pm

re: #311 jaunte

Are you on well water, or city of Houston?

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BeachDem  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:42:17pm
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JordanRules  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:42:36pm

re: #314 teleskiguy

These folks have mainlined American exceptionalism and must think they are fallout proof.
And they’ve got no fam serving apparently.

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jaunte  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:43:16pm

re: #317 prairiefire

Yes, most of the western part of the city is. (One reason the flooding is getting worse is because of subsidence.)

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teleskiguy  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:43:22pm
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VegasGolfer  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:44:26pm

There’s always a tweet

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prairiefire  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:45:59pm

re: #320 jaunte

Man, I would really champion clean water rights.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:46:09pm

re: #314 teleskiguy

The mind of a Fuckface Von Clownstick fluffer…

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I don’t care about Kim Jong Un and what happens to him but I do care about the people of NK.

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William Lewis  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:46:09pm

Growing up in a small town with a bit of industry and a local airport we were a marginal tertiary target at most. No, we just knew we were downwind from Minneapolis-St. Paul & the Dakota missile fields. We’d die slower in the grey fallout snow that would smother Northern Wisconsin in it’s shroud. Rather like “On The Beach” but without the race car to commit suicide in.

That’s why I joined the Army in 1982. I really thought Reagan would start WWIII and I figured I’d rather die fast in a tank in Germany even before the missiles flew than slowly of radiation poisoning.

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retired cynic  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:46:11pm

re: #322 VegasGolfer

Always a tweet

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That just makes me wonder the more about the state of his mind now, as opposed to what it was then.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:47:12pm

re: #321 teleskiguy

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No kidding. Why not quote the woman who should be President and was slandered as being more of a warmongrel than Trump.

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JordanRules  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:47:40pm

re: #326 retired cynic

I think about that a lot. I also think of the possibility that he’s been groomed in service to a very long con.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:48:03pm

re: #325 William Lewis

Growing up in a small town with a bit of industry and a local airport we were a marginal tertiary target at most. No, we just knew we were downwind from Minneapolis-St. Paul & the Dakota missile fields. We’d die slower in the grey fallout snow that would smother Northern Wisconsin in it’s shroud. Rather like “On The Beach” but without the race car to commit suicide in.

That’s why I joined the Army in 1982. I really thought Reagan would start WWIII and I figured I’d rather die fast in a tank in Germany even before the missiles flew than slowly of radiation poisoning.

I’m in Las Vegas, so with Nellis Air Force Base being very close to where I live as well as the Nevada Test Site, I’m sure we’re a target.

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ckkatz  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:48:24pm

re: #237 HappyWarrior

What I remember about the election issue was that after a recount, the Board of Elections ruled that the Democrat won by a single vote. The Board of Elections was charged with reviewing and validating the ballots, among other things.

The Republican appealed to the three judge panel who was supposed to confirm the Board of Elections decision. He showed a ballot that had been disallowed by the Board of Elections. It had both candidates name circled, but a slight line through the democrat’s name. The judges ruled that it was valid and for the Republican.

The Democrat appealed. As I understand it, her question was whether the three judge panel was intending to take over the Board of Election’s power to allow or disallow on ballots. If so, she intended to submit a large number of ballots for the Judge’s review.

If the judges do not respond, the Board of Elections will again take over.

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teleskiguy  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:49:05pm

Seven billion dollars in back taxes? SEVEN BILLION DOLLARS IN BACK TAXES?!?

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Belafon  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:49:22pm

re: #314 teleskiguy

The mind of a Fuckface Von Clownstick fluffer…

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These are the same people who join the police force in order to bully others.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:49:42pm

re: #331 teleskiguy

Seven billion dollars in back taxes? SEVEN BILLION DOLLARS IN BACK TAXES?!?

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And people wonder why socialism exists. It’s because of people like that asshole.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:50:48pm
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Belafon  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:52:31pm

re: #325 William Lewis

Growing up in a small town with a bit of industry and a local airport we were a marginal tertiary target at most. No, we just knew we were downwind from Minneapolis-St. Paul & the Dakota missile fields. We’d die slower in the grey fallout snow that would smother Northern Wisconsin in it’s shroud. Rather like “On The Beach” but without the race car to commit suicide in.

That’s why I joined the Army in 1982. I really thought Reagan would start WWIII and I figured I’d rather die fast in a tank in Germany even before the missiles flew than slowly of radiation poisoning.

Alas, Babylon.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:53:13pm

I’m not a socialist but if people like Mercer are what capitalism is, I don’t want to be a capitalist either. Motherfucker’s so greedy that he owes 8 billion in back taxes? I don’t think my family has had that much in several generations combined. But I’d love to hear from conservatives again how the poor wealthy are so overtaxed in this country compared to the poor.

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whitebeach  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:57:05pm

re: #333 HappyWarrior

And people wonder why socialism exists. It’s because of people like that asshole.

That’s not why socialism exists. It’s why guillotines exist.

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ckkatz  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:58:10pm

re: #325 William Lewis

I was in the Army when “The Day After” came out. (1983 iirc) It really affected me. And still does. I was tremendously grateful when the Soviet establishment accepted their dis-establishment peacefully. I assumed it was because many still had vivid personal memories of World War 2. Like you, I expected to quickly die as a speedbump in Europe.

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jaunte  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:58:13pm

Stephen Colbert just did a piece on Trump changing the presidential challenge coin design, adding three Trump signatures and changing our national motto, E Pluribus Unum to his campaign slogan, Make America Great Again.
I wasn’t aware before that he had changed the direction the eagle was facing. Just like Chavez did with the horse on the Venezuelan national seal.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:58:19pm

re: #337 whitebeach

That’s not why socialism exists. It’s why guillotines exist.

Ha touché.

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teleskiguy  Jan 2, 2018 • 8:59:56pm

Hillary was fucking robbed. The first mainstream Democratic candidate I ever voted for in a presidential election. Heartbreaking as all fuck.

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jaunte  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:03:51pm

re: #341 teleskiguy

The Republicans are going to fight like hell to keep the money launderer protected.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:06:13pm

re: #341 teleskiguy

Hillary was fucking robbed. The first mainstream Democratic candidate I ever voted for in a presidential election. Heartbreaking as all fuck.

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It was bullshit then and still is. And I blame Stein and Sanders for continuing that myth.

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Targetpractice  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:06:50pm

re: #341 teleskiguy

Hillary was fucking robbed. The first mainstream Democratic candidate I ever voted for in a presidential election. Heartbreaking as all fuck.

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The only thing more infuriating was Susan Sarandon declaring the other day that Hillary would already have us involved in a war.

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William Lewis  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:06:53pm

re: #335 Belafon

Alas, Babylon.

I liked it when I first read it. Later I would learn more about nuclear weapons and realized that it was a delightfully optimistic fantasy. And that was before we learned about nuclear winter…

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whitebeach  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:08:12pm

The truly loony-dangerous thing about this “My nuke button is bigger than his and mine works” is that he seems to think it’s just between him and Kim. I can think of at least two large and powerful nations with historical ties to North Korea who also have large nuke buttons, and my guess is that theirs work too.

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jaunte  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:09:36pm
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teleskiguy  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:09:40pm

I’m a Hillary Democrat. I voted for her not because of Fuckface Von Clownstick (though that definitely helped) but because her speeches and appearances and social media over the course of 18 months convinced me that that was the right and righteous way to cast my vote. It was an effective campaign. My party affiliation was “independent” since I was 18, and Hillary’s campaign changed my mind. I am now a Democrat and will actively campaign for local, state, and national Democrats. Hillary brought me into the fold, and I’m not ashamed in the slightest to admit that.

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ThomasLite  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:10:38pm

re: #336 HappyWarrior

Okay, the article is more than a little clickbait-ey. He does not (possibly) owe USD 7B in back taxes for several reasons. First, in no way is it about his personal tax bill. That 7B is the total aggregate the IRS is going after from the entire USD 100B valued hedge fund (and/or possibly shareholders/beneficiaries; don’t ask me, financial institutions really aren’t my thing and I haven’t exactly dug deeper into the case), not from one individual or family. Not by a long shot.
So this is a potential, possible back tax bill for a ~100B US company. Bit less out there already.

Next, the IRS is going after allegedly improper classification of certain securities over a period of several years. Now whether that lower tax rate they were possibly improperly classified as should even exist could be a valid question, and whether they were incorrectly classified as such (apparently) *is* a very valid question, but it wouldn’t be the first time where a difference in interpretation in fiscal matters leads to a dispute of that magnitude. Apple is facing a bill about twice that amount in Ireland after the EC managed to get certain Irish tax rulings invalidated. That added up over a bunch of years as well. In the end that’s just a matter of scale and any sufficiently large company or institution could potentially get themselves in hot water like that if their accountants went with a different interpretation of a certain rule than what would in the end be ruled to be the correct interpretation thereof; it needn’t even be bad faith so much as, let’s say, overtly optimistic interpretation of statutes.

Fact is any real world tax law (and practice) is going to be fought on a knife’s edge and things somewhat like this will come up sooner or later.
That’s really not the issue. Also, you might miss the forest for the trees: the real F-ing outrage is trying to buy the administration so as to get the IRS to back off. That’s banana republic territory. Getting wound up over the size of a (potential) back tax bill that’s just a matter of scale and of multiple years’ disputed tax liabilities adding up is missing the point completely.

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retired cynic  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:10:55pm

re: #348 teleskiguy

Thank you!

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austin_blue  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:11:18pm

Night all. I hope I am not awakened by a Very Bright Light and then die.

Hard to believe I just typed that sentence, but there you go.

We need to get rid of this mango jizztrumpet as soon as possible. He is going off the deep end and we are the potential victims of his insane hubris.

He is our Black Swan.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:12:03pm

re: #348 teleskiguy

I’m a Hillary Democrat. I voted for her not because of Fuckface Von Clownstick (though that definitely helped) but because her speeches and appearances and social media over the course of 18 months convinced me that that was the right and righteous way to cast my vote. It was an effective campaign. My party affiliation was “independent” since I was 18, and Hillary’s campaign changed my mind. I am now a Democrat and will actively campaign for local, state, and national Democrats. Hillary brought me into the fold, and I’m not ashamed in the slightest to admit that.

I have no regrets at all for voting for her. The most qualified, intelligent, best on issues, and yes likable candidate that ran last year. She was a better candidate than Sanders and Stein.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:12:48pm

re: #349 ThomasLite

Okay, the article is more than a little clickbait-ey. He does not (possibly) owe USD 7B in back taxes for several reasons. First, in no way is it about his personal tax bill. That 7B is the total aggregate the IRS is going after from the entire USD 100B valued hedge fund (and/or possibly shareholders/beneficiaries; don’t ask me, financial institutions really aren’t my thing and I haven’t exactly dug deeper into the case), not from one individual or family. Not by a long shot.
So this is a potential, possible back tax bill for a ~100B US company. Bit less out there already.

Next, the IRS is going after allegedly improper classification of certain securities over a period of several years. Now whether that lower tax rate they were possibly improperly classified as should even exist could be a valid question, and whether they were incorrectly classified as such (apparently) *is* a very valid question, but it wouldn’t be the first time where a difference in interpretation in fiscal matters leads to a dispute of that magnitude. Apple is facing a bill about twice that amount in Ireland after the EC managed to get certain Irish tax rulings invalidated. That added up over a bunch of years as well. In the end that’s just a matter of scale and any sufficiently large company or institution could potentially get themselves in hot water like that if their accountants went with a different interpretation of a certain rule than what would in the end be ruled to be the correct interpretation thereof; it needn’t even be bad faith so much as, let’s say, overtly optimistic interpretation of statutes.

Fact is any real world tax law (and practice) is going to be fought on a knife’s edge and things somewhat like this will come up sooner or later.
That’s really not the issue. Also, you might miss the forest for the trees: the real F-ing outrage is trying to buy the administration so as to get the IRS to back off. That’s banana republic territory. Getting wound up over the size of a (potential) back tax bill that’s just a matter of scale and of multiple years’ disputed tax liabilities adding up is missing the point completely.

Thanks.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:13:56pm

re: #344 Targetpractice

The only thing more infuriating was Susan Sarandon declaring the other day that Hillary would already have us involved in a war.

She needs to shut up. Nina Turner too, Bernie, and all the other far lefty assholes who got us here with their ideological selfishness.

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ThomasLite  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:14:31pm

re: #353 HappyWarrior

Sometimes it’s easy to get misled by that sort of headline. happy to help out :)

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teleskiguy  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:15:53pm

A $100 billion hedge fund that owes $7 billion in back taxes? Yeah, I guess that’s not such a big deal after all. Silly me for posting such trite clickbait.

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JordanRules  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:15:55pm

re: #348 teleskiguy

Nice testimony Ski!
Someone should interview you!!

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electrotek  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:19:13pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:19:50pm

re: #357 JordanRules

Nice testimony Ski!
Someone should interview you!!

I’d much rather read about people like Ski then the idiots who voted for Trump who are still with him despite all the lies.

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retired cynic  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:20:46pm

re: #358 electrotek

I’m with Mona, who represents her clan well!

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jaunte  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:20:52pm

re: #358 electrotek

Seinfeld - Man Hands

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:21:22pm

re: #358 electrotek

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She has her name on her shirt? And why do these nuts always pose with guns? Really why worry about Sharia with nuts like this?

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Aussie Apocalypse  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:21:49pm

re: #347 jaunte

I doubt Tumpy can see his genitals without aid. I assume he thinks if he can’t see it, it must be elsewhere.

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electrotek  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:22:04pm

re: #362 HappyWarrior

She has her name on her shirt? And why do these nuts always pose with guns? Really why worry about Sharia with nuts like this?

Especially when these self-loathing women with internalized misogyny issues openly boast of supporting a sexual predator?

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William Lewis  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:22:15pm

Night all. See you in the morning.

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BigPapa  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:22:43pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:23:08pm

re: #356 teleskiguy

A $100 billion hedge fund that owes $7 billion in back taxes? Yeah, I guess that’s not such a big deal after all. Silly me for posting such trite clickbait.

To be fair, he wasn’t saying it was trivial just the idea as I assumed that it was all owed individually. And he’s right about it being outrageous that Mercer can use the WH to get help in ‘tis.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:23:51pm

re: #364 electrotek

Especially when these self-loathing women with internalized misogyny issues openly boast of supporting a sexual predator?

They do have a lot of self loathing. I think all Trump supporters do.

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The Major  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:25:15pm

re: #354 HappyWarrior

She needs to shut up. Nina Turner too, Bernie, and all the other far lefty assholes who got us here with their ideological selfishness.

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teleskiguy  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:25:23pm

This picture was taken yesterday atop Monarch Pass in Colorado by a friend of mine who grew up in the area. Normally, this mountainside would be covered in snow measured in meters by this time during the winter.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:25:40pm

When wingnuts look at women with guns, are they aroused by the woman or gun? Honest question. There’s a reason why people call em ammosexuals.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:26:40pm

re: #369 The Major

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jaunte  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:26:46pm

re: #370 teleskiguy

Wow, that’s very bad.

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whitebeach  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:28:49pm

re: #366 BigPapa

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I dunno. I read the abstract and it sounds like pseudo-profound bullshit to me. But then again, today damn near everything sounds like pseudo-profound bullshit to me, including “Damn, it’s cold out there.”

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ThomasLite  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:30:22pm

re: #356 teleskiguy

A $100 billion hedge fund that owes $7 billion in back taxes? Yeah, I guess that’s not such a big deal after all. Silly me for posting such trite clickbait.

7% of its market cap over 5+ years? Yeah, be as sarcastic as you like but that is rather less of a spectacular matter than your, yes, clickbait seems to suggest.
Also not quite as extraordinary; any real-world rule is subject to interpretation. Any fiscal system particularly is going to have disputes over that interpretation. Any such dispute over a tax rate to be applied to (a significant portion of) a large entity’s profit is going to scale linearly with the size of said entity. So yeah, this is not particularly extraordinary.

Also do note that the system was actually working fine. IRS was going after (and from what I can tell, highly likely to recover) those back taxes.

But in the real world it’s perfectly possible to get these differences of interpretation without bad faith on either side. And all it takes then to get a big back tax bill is a sufficiently large company.

If you can’t see how those percentages are much, much more relevant than the absolute numbers to the original tax dispute you have issues dealing with the scale of a(ny) modern economy, TBH.

Feel free to be entirely legitimately outraged about trying to buy off the administration.
But to be outraged that larger companies have proportionately larger tax bills, and proportionally larger tax disputes isn’t really a productive attitude so yeah, I’ll be happy to call you out on that. Because it’s rubbish.

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The Major  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:31:11pm

re: #372 HappyWarrior

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teleskiguy  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:33:55pm

re: #373 jaunte

The ski areas and their affiliated businesses are hemorrhaging money out of all orifices right now. And that’s just money. The majority of the water supply in the Colorado River drainage is the snowpack in the headwaters. Expect Powell and Mead to drain some more this year. Oh, and lack of moisture in winter usually leads to catastrophic wildfires. Things are bleak.

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jaunte  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:35:03pm

re: #377 teleskiguy

That was my first thought; if the mountaintops are that dry now, the fires this summer are going to be bad.

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teleskiguy  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:36:38pm

re: #375 ThomasLite

How do you feel about the corporate tax rate going from 39% to 24%?

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prairiefire  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:37:09pm

re: #370 teleskiguy

Where da snow, bro?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:38:41pm

re: #276 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

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teleskiguy  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:39:11pm

re: #380 prairiefire

Where da snow, bro?

It’s a source of fairly severe depressive episodes I’ve been having of late.

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CleverToad  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:40:03pm

re: #281 teleskiguy

I looked it up. It’s absolutely true.

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Ha! I hadn’t noticed that. I just noticed that Palm Sunday falls on my birthday, which it hasn’t done since I was born in 1956. Easter was April Fool’s that year too, but Ash Wednesday was Feb 15th (Leap Year).

Yep, 2018’s gonna be a weird year.

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ThomasLite  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:40:24pm

re: #379 teleskiguy

How do you feel about the corporate tax rate going from 39% to 24%?

Not remotely fucking relevant to this discussion and you know it. If you’re just going to change the subject so you get to rant and rave instead of addressing my actual argument against that badly written article, have fun. But I’m not playing.

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prairiefire  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:40:28pm

re: #382 teleskiguy

Would you consider moving with the snow? I’m afraid it is not coming back.

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retired cynic  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:40:35pm

re: #382 teleskiguy

I can well imagine! We are dry here, and I worry about that, but it is not on terrain where I need to worry about the fires. It will effect farmers in this area, no doubt, so a financial hit for sure.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:40:41pm

re: #370 teleskiguy

I’ve been up that gondola.

Not in the winter.

So it didn’t have snow then.

But it wasn’t supposed to.

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teleskiguy  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:41:39pm

re: #384 ThomasLite

Do you think the Bills will win their first playoff game since 1999?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:42:55pm

All I will say is I hope the IRS is as unforgiving about a 7% error on corporate taxes as it would be about a 7% error on my taxes.

Preferably even less, because I can’t afford the lawyers and accountants a corporation can.

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teleskiguy  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:45:28pm

re: #387 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I’ve been up that gondola.

Not in the winter.

That gondola doesn’t run in the winter, it’s strictly a summer attraction.

Usually there’s 15 foot snow walls in the three avalanche paths on the side of the highway on the west side of the pass. There hasn’t been enough snow for any kind of avalanche control this year. Hell, college kids from Western State haven’t been able to hike up into Tea Cup Bowl to build a big kicker to practice backflips. It’s fucking January! *shudder*

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:46:36pm

re: #390 teleskiguy

That gondola doesn’t run in the winter, it’s strictly a summer attraction.

Usually there’s 15 foot snow walls in the three avalanche paths on the side of the highway on the west side of the pass. There hasn’t been enough snow for any kind of avalanche control this year. Hell, college kids from Western State haven’t been able to hike up into Tea Cup Bowl to build a big kicker to practice backflips. It’s fucking January! *shudder*

I mean I love the moutains but we’re not towing the trailer through there in the winter so it wasn’t going to be winter that trip.

It was nice and gray and windy though.

I might even have pictures somewhere. (It was less brown.)

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teleskiguy  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:47:40pm
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ThomasLite  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:49:56pm

re: #389 klys (maker of Silmarils)

All I will say is I hope the IRS is as unforgiving about a 7% error on corporate taxes as it would be about a 7% error on my taxes.

Preferably even less, because I can’t afford the lawyers and accountants a corporation can.

That’s the funny thing. Unless the actual outrage comes to pass and Mercer manages to pay off the administration into muzzling the IRS, that seems to be a pretty certain outcome by now.
In other words, system’s working fine, actually. Aside from the one really newsworthy part that gets covered under completely irrelevant outrage how really big companies apparently have really big tax bills, as well. Which is why it might be a good idea to actually focus on what’s worth getting worked up over.

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teleskiguy  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:50:17pm

re: #391 klys (maker of Silmarils)

This is me right around Labor Day mountain biking above that gondola you rode. I rode 35 miles up, over, and through the mountains that day.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:52:32pm

re: #393 ThomasLite

That’s the funny thing. Unless the actual outrage comes to pass and Mercer manages to pay off the administration into muzzling the IRS, that seems to be a pretty certain outcome by now.
In other words, system’s working fine, actually. Aside from the one really newsworthy part that gets covered under completely irrelevant outrage how really big companies apparently have really big tax bills, as well. Which is why it might be a good idea to actually focus on what’s worth getting worked up over.

I mean, I think we can all agree on the sentiment I posted.

I’m too tipsy to do actual argument analysis right now past that. Which is why I am posting again for the moment.

As long as they pay interest too.

And the fees for all the auditors who had to focus on this shit.

And maybe some extra.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:53:44pm

re: #394 teleskiguy

I ran 26 miles in 2 days this past week so I am just blargh on long runs at the moment.

Of course it is CA so I can do those without freezing to death.

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retired cynic  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:54:47pm

re: #396 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I ran 26 miles in 2 days this past week so I am just blargh on long runs at the moment.

Of course it is CA so I can do those without freezing to death.

It seemed that long, hauling my supplies from the car to the house, at zero!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:55:37pm

re: #397 retired cynic

It seemed that long, hauling my supplies from the car to the house, at zero!

I suppose it would be relatively uncouth to throw a tantrum at this point about how I want real weather, dammit.

They say maybe thunderstorms tomorrow afternoon.

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retired cynic  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:56:46pm

re: #398 klys (maker of Silmarils)

At least the days are getting longer!!

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ThomasLite  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:58:37pm

re: #395 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I mean, I think we can all agree on the sentiment I posted.

I’m too tipsy to do actual argument analysis right now past that. Which is why I am posting again for the moment.

As long as they pay interest too.

And the fees for all the auditors who had to focus on this shit.

And maybe some extra.

Interest on US back taxes is something around 3% IIRC. relatively punitive compared to current cost of financing, you could argue. Yes, that is automatic, rest assured.
fees for auditors are either included in fines or for the IRS to bear (“letting the costs fall where they may” seems to be a popular mantra in US procedural law. I wouldn’t know for certain, not an American).
Fines could be assessed but that depends somewhat on how reasonable the interpretation that doesn’t win out in the end is deemed to be, usually. There’s a difference between being wrong and acting in bad faith. Even fiscal law tends to leave some room for that, where appropriate. ;)

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teleskiguy  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:59:01pm

re: #399 retired cynic

At least the days are getting longer!!

*pedant mode on*

Minor quibble. The days are the same amount of time. It’s the gradual time of daylight that is increasing.

*pedant mode off*

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retired cynic  Jan 2, 2018 • 9:59:45pm

re: #401 teleskiguy

*whack!*

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prairiefire  Jan 2, 2018 • 10:02:00pm

re: #396 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Very good track record!

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LoonRadio  Jan 2, 2018 • 10:02:36pm

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retired cynic  Jan 2, 2018 • 10:06:51pm

re: #404 LoonRadio

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Best comment of the evening! (I may not be tipsy from alcohol, but from too many consecutive games of solitaire!)

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 2, 2018 • 10:06:55pm

re: #400 ThomasLite

Interest on US back taxes is something around 3% IIRC. relatively punitive compared to current cost of financing, you could argue. Yes, that is automatic, rest assured.
fees for auditors are either included in fines or for the IRS to bear (“letting the costs fall where they may” seems to be a popular mantra in US procedural law. I wouldn’t know for certain, not an American).
Fines could be assessed but that depends somewhat on how reasonable the interpretation that doesn’t win out in the end is deemed to be, usually. There’s a difference between being wrong and acting in bad faith. Even fiscal law tends to leave some room for that, where appropriate. ;)

I mean, in the end I sort of hope for that on a personal level, because I do my best to act in good faith to the best of my interpretation of tax law and the fucking guidance paperwork which is clear as mud. (This is a privileged problem to have, as it typically means you have made money.)

On the other hand, for a massive corporation I assume less in the way of good faith because they are able to afford the accountants and the lawyers to minimize their payment (and presumably make decisions based on probabilities of enforcement, etc.).

I mean, when I am in doubt I tend to err on the side of the larger amount. I doubt the same is true for a corporation.

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teleskiguy  Jan 2, 2018 • 10:07:29pm

Libertarian dudebro who refuses to join the Democratic party because he’s a libertarian dudebro totally goes full on libertarian puritopian dudebro.

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darthstar  Jan 2, 2018 • 10:15:00pm
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retired cynic  Jan 2, 2018 • 10:15:18pm

re: #407 teleskiguy

Libertarian dudebro who refuses to join the Democratic party because he’s a libertarian dudebro totally goes full on libertarian puritopian dudebro.

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Why should we nominate someone “better” for the libertarian party than for the Democratic party? That doesn’t even make sense.

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teleskiguy  Jan 2, 2018 • 10:16:19pm

When Agence France-Presse is doing write-ups about Fuckface Von Clownstick’s bigger history eraser button, we got problems as a species.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 2, 2018 • 10:19:44pm

re: #410 teleskiguy

When Agence France-Presse is doing write-ups about Fuckface Von Clownstick’s bigger history eraser button, we got problems as a species.

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It’s also a big FU to Trump from the two Koreas. They’re telling him they don’t care what he thinks or says, they’ll just go ahead and do what’s best for them, tyvm.

This is the new norm in geopolitics: ignore the USA, and especially its Clown Dictator.

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teleskiguy  Jan 2, 2018 • 10:21:07pm

re: #409 retired cynic

Why should we nominate someone “better” for the libertarian party than for the Democratic party? That doesn’t even make sense.

You inspired me to directly reply to Conor.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 2, 2018 • 10:21:23pm

Theory: Putin is working both sides in playing Kim and Trump against each other.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 2, 2018 • 10:21:29pm

re: #358 electrotek

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teleskiguy  Jan 2, 2018 • 10:24:05pm

Automatic Blocking Function: activated.

The Paulbots are still active on Twitter, I’m sorry to say. The instant I mention Ron Paul, BOOM!

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teleskiguy  Jan 2, 2018 • 10:27:28pm

German translated to English:

And so: good morning! Live every day like it could be your last. Because he could.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 2, 2018 • 10:46:42pm
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retired cynic  Jan 2, 2018 • 10:48:42pm

re: #417 FormerDirtDart

I hear Glenn Greenwald’s influence in that first tweet. Ugh!

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teleskiguy  Jan 2, 2018 • 10:51:10pm

I stopped getting into *anything* remotely controversial on Facebook a couple of years ago, because it can be worse than YouTube comments, and it’s coming from people I know personally (that I “unfriended” in the FB and literal sense).

Well, I got into something on a ski bum FB page.

A question was posed.

Facebook Post

I answered “The ones not owned by Aspen or Vail.”

And here’s a reply to that, and my subsequent reply (I’m “Wen Hui Wang).

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 2, 2018 • 11:03:58pm
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teleskiguy  Jan 2, 2018 • 11:04:03pm

re: #419 teleskiguy

My list could go on. I’ve never seen The Allman Bros. Band at the Jazz Aspen/Snowmass Festival. I’ve never won a music competition at Aspen High School in Jazz Band. I’ve never participated in ski races at Aspen Highlands and Tiehack/Buttermilk. I’ve never been to Conundrum Hot Springs. I never saw Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner with their kids and a nanny at Poppycock’s.

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 2, 2018 • 11:44:59pm

I’d like to thank the Canadian marijuana industry for a great 2017 and one hell of a start on 2018.

I’m movin’ to Newfoundland soon, gonna be a cannabis tycoon.

Just me and the pygmy polar bear out by the cannabis bush.

/My apologies to Frank and anybody who appreciates music and lyrics.

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JordanRules  Jan 2, 2018 • 11:47:40pm
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Kragar  Jan 3, 2018 • 12:15:46am
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JordanRules  Jan 3, 2018 • 1:35:09am
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Single-handed sailor  Jan 3, 2018 • 1:50:20am

Mike Tyson is starting a pot resort in the Mojave Desert.

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Teukka  Jan 3, 2018 • 1:52:57am

re: #281 teleskiguy

I looked it up. It’s absolutely true.

re: #383 CleverToad

Ha! I hadn’t noticed that. I just noticed that Palm Sunday falls on my birthday, which it hasn’t done since I was born in 1956. Easter was April Fool’s that year too, but Ash Wednesday was Feb 15th (Leap Year).

Yep, 2018’s gonna be a weird year.

Almost as if a certain triune deity was trying to make some sort of point, eh?

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 3, 2018 • 2:46:19am

Yesterday’s marijuana stock results for anybody wanting a good stock tip.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 3, 2018 • 3:33:25am

re: #407 teleskiguy

Libertarian dudebro who refuses to join the Democratic party because he’s a libertarian dudebro totally goes full on libertarian puritopian dudebro.

She wasn’t right about Iraq, or Libya, or drones, or mass surveillance, or padding her private fortune with Golman Sachs payouts, or campaign strategy.

Please nominate a better candidate in 2020. ]

He overlooks the fact that Hillary got more votes than Trump, just not in the right places to win her an EC victory. A flawed campaign strategy, perhaps but in the end the work of a complicit media and the RNC/Trump campaign actively working with a foreign government

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Alephnaught  Jan 3, 2018 • 4:06:10am

re: #358 electrotek

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My goodness, that’s some terrible overuse of Photoshop in that photo, it makes her look like a Barbie doll.

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Alyosha  Jan 3, 2018 • 4:14:45am

I’m a bit drunk.

Is this… funny?

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 3, 2018 • 4:26:24am

re: #431 Alyosha

I’m a bit drunk.

Is this… funny?

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I’m extremely drunk, I don’t think so…plus Paul was a dickwad.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 3, 2018 • 4:30:00am

It is that same form of historical revisionism that goes from “Western Civilization has a number of admirable principles, including democracy, individual rights, equality , personal liberties and the rule of law, which are worth defending and even spreading to the rest of the world” to “Western Civilization is inherently superior”.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 3, 2018 • 4:58:20am

There will be a blue moon this month.

As the world settles into 2018, it’s been an auspicious year for skywatchers already. New years day presented the first supermoon of the month, sort of a warm up to the main event later in the month. For full coverage of yesterdays, supermoon check out Brid-Aine’s piece on Forbes. At the end of January, skywatchers will be treated to a supermoon, blue moon, and a total lunar eclipse (known as blood moon) all in one night.

This phenomenon, nicknamed the “Super Blue Blood Moon” will be icing on the cake after several months of impressive moons. However, the party won’t stop there, while February won’t showcase a full moon, March will have another blue moon on the 31st.

Some cheeky humor:

BLUE MOON

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Dave In Austin  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:00:21am
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Alyosha  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:02:02am

re: #433 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Well yeah, but revisionism can only come before synthesis :)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:06:01am

re: #436 Alyosha

Well yeah, but revisionism can only come before synthesis :)

“Western Civilization is inherently superior” is just “White People are Better” dressed up in intellectual garb. And this sort of revisionism goes down well with people who are contrarian by nature and have little sense of historical context or nuance.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:11:32am

Bomb cyclone set for New York City

A massive winter storm called a “bomb cyclone” is set to batter the Northeast this week — leaving the city blanketed in snow and battling harsh winds and temps as low as 4 degrees, meteorologists say.

nypost.com

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Alyosha  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:13:35am

I just wanted to wander back in coz while I almost always check in everyday, as Klys was saying earlier, it’s hard for some of us to be the partisan 100% of the time.
It wears us down.
I know Stanley didn’t mean that we should be able to buck up and do stuff regardless of our mental preparedness, it’s so hard for some of us to keep up here.
Me, I love following peeps on Twitter who share are and pics of dogs.
I fucking *adore* political Twitter, but it’s a touchstone. After a while, it hurts.
I know, coming from Oz that I am so privileged. But I love you guys so much.
This is my home. I ain’t going nowhere.

Just wanted to give a perspective from the other side of the pond. The US is FAAAAAAAARKED right now for sure.

There are those of us in the territories that remember Obama and remember Hillary. (Fuck Bill ;))

As Deb might enjoin you, when all else fails, there’s always an International Brigade. Even if we count as no more than a platoon.
Resistances are built on hope.

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Alyosha  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:15:38am

re: #437 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“Western Civilization is inherently superior” is just “White People are Better” dressed up in intellectual garb. And this sort of revisionism goes down well with people who are contrarian by nature and have little sense of historical context or nuance.

I would say by this point that if you’re driven by contrarianism itself, no tweet, no matter how well composed, will shift you.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:22:50am

re: #439 Alyosha

I’m Deb, and I approve this message.

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:24:36am

re: #438 Shropshire Slasher

Bomb cyclone set for New York City

nypost.com

We had a word for that back in Manitoba, eh. We called it winter. ///

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:26:52am

re: #440 Alyosha

I would say by this point that if you’re driven by contrarianism itself, no tweet, no matter how well composed, will shift you.

I know people both right and left who are simply disposed by nature to reject whatever they consider to be the “official” point of view on most anything.

And a lot of modern media trolling seems to be built on about manipulating people into seeing certain viewpoints as “MSM” or “PC” just to get people to reject them.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:27:11am

re: #442 Single-handed sailor

That’s funny, cuz I read that in a Canadian accent, you hoser.

//

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:28:36am
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Alyosha  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:32:02am

LGF.

My home.
re: #441 Decatur Deb

I’m Deb, and I approve this message.

I’m so happy about Jones!

You done good.

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Alyosha  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:34:55am

re: #443 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I know people both right and left who are simply disposed by nature to reject whatever they consider to be the “official” point of view on most anything.

And a lot of modern media trolling seems to be built on about manipulating people into seeing certain viewpoints as “MSM” or “PC” just to get people to reject them.

That has some value. But without formal education these children are unreachable. That it the conceit of autocracies. That warriors do not need to learn critical thinking before being able to wield arms.

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jeffreyw  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:37:06am

Imgur
Good morning!

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:38:26am

Look who is being the well-behaved grownup this morning!

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Alyosha  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:39:33am

re: #448 jeffreyw

I’m glad you’re here dispensing food and kits.

May never the twain meet.

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Alyosha  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:41:29am

re: #449 The Vicious Babushka

Look who is being the well-behaved grownup this morning!

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Wait for the lag ;)

I’m for the rack soon. Pours a brandy to Justanotherhuman.
*kisses whatever luck blog she inhabits now*

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Alyosha  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:43:32am

Sucks being a bit of a drunk. I don’t do normal people but you all (all y’all) are my people.

Resist.

Peace.

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ThomasLite  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:45:13am

re: #406 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I mean, in the end I sort of hope for that on a personal level, because I do my best to act in good faith to the best of my interpretation of tax law and the fucking guidance paperwork which is clear as mud. (This is a privileged problem to have, as it typically means you have made money.)

On the other hand, for a massive corporation I assume less in the way of good faith because they are able to afford the accountants and the lawyers to minimize their payment (and presumably make decisions based on probabilities of enforcement, etc.).

I mean, when I am in doubt I tend to err on the side of the larger amount. I doubt the same is true for a corporation.

Sorry for late response. I get where you’re coming from; it’s just a bit more complicated than that, really. When you’re dealing with a tax situation that’s orders of magnitude more complex than that of any regular joe doing his more or less regular taxes, situations arise where more than one interpretation is legitimately defensible. You don’t just err on the side of magnanimity, but you (ie. accountants, tax lawyers etc) ‘show your work’ and if the revenue service disagrees, you quibble over it until a court settles it - no hard feelings. That’s how the system’s supposed to work, and it’s how ambiguous questions get clarified. Part of the design. And keep in mind, while they get to argue their views, if they lose out they pay every penny plus interest. Gov’t borrows at lower interest rates than what such an entity would pay anyway (that’s how that interest rate is set up pretty much inherently) so it’s all fine.

Also, no western revenue service (and least of all the US IRS) has much of a reputation for wimping out on this sort of dispute - quite the contrary, in fact. But I’d hope we can all agree it is a good thing everyone gets to argue the ambiguity in a complex rule before a judge before having some agency apply their interpretation one-sidedly, whether we particularly like that somebody or not ;)

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Alyosha  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:51:20am

Actually just thought that I could like drunkenly spam the thread with unrestrained comments about how the blog (with thanks to Señor Johnson) enrich my life *just* to remind you guys that there’s a bunch of countries who remember Barack.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:53:06am

re: #454 Alyosha

Actually just thought that I could like drunkenly spam the thread with unrestrained comments about how the blog (with thanks to Señor Johnson) enrich my life *just* to remind you guys that there’s a bunch of countries who remember Barack.

And look at the polling data which shows only two countries in the world love Trump more than Obama—Israel and Russia. Talk about an “Odd Couple”…

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Alyosha  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:53:22am

Like he did an interview on the radio with a representative of the monarchy I only *adore* because of their relations with the extinct Romanovs.

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Alyosha  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:53:49am

re: #455 Joe Bacon 🌹

And look at the polling data which shows only two countries in the world love Trump more than Obama—Israel and Russia. Talk about an “Odd Couple”…

Yes!!!!!!!!!!!

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Alyosha  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:56:03am

The world will progress with or without you guys.
You will catch up.
We. In. Australia. Only. Just. Now. Legalised. Gay. Marrige.

You’re still a bit ahead.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:57:16am

As I posted before—Trump is the White Trash Version of Homey The Clown…

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Alyosha  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:58:48am

The utter fuckwits who want to derail our progress are looking to your fuckwits for pointers.

I die inside each day with you.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:02:04am
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Alyosha  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:03:16am

You *already* outnumber him by 3 million.

The evocation of apathy and burnout is intentional. But you have to support the guys and gals who can’t function so they can support the guys and girls who can. So that they can feel safe and able enough to lend their hands.

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:05:46am

Fuck Zuma, I wanna see Falcon Heavy static fire.

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Alyosha  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:06:46am

All you feelings are valid.
All your fears are valid.

Do not let the man who preys of both rob you of you reason. The world needs you when this abates.
And you will survive.

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nines09  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:06:49am

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Belafon  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:14:09am

re: #407 teleskiguy

Libertarian dudebro who refuses to join the Democratic party because he’s a libertarian dudebro totally goes full on libertarian puritopian dudebro.

Democrats had the better candidate in 2016, but that’s not how people voted.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:15:02am

re: #407 teleskiguy

Libertarian dudebro who refuses to join the Democratic party because he’s a libertarian dudebro totally goes full on libertarian puritopian dudebro.

GOLDMAN SACHS!!!!! Drink!!!!!!1

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Alyosha  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:18:38am

Ok, that’s it.

Goddamn I missed posting nonsense here.
Shoutout to the gals, the Sleuths and Wenches.
Wisdom.
Stanley and Klys.
You fuckin make this site.

I love all the dudes but dangerman, teleskiguy (you can be a dick I want to help but I love you), GDF, Ghost of a Flea (I need your therapy)

I was gonna start naming gals….

Everyone be as good as the gals :D

Special mention are the pedants… you I love most of all. Even as my finger hovers over the downding button.

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Alyosha  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:22:43am

Happy New Year Everyone.

I want so very badly to help you even as it seems so helpless.

I know if anyone can pull it off it’s definitely the world’s most eclecticly thoughtful and diverse of people.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:22:51am

re: #447 Alyosha

That has some value. But without formal education these children are unreachable. That it the conceit of autocracies. That warriors do not need to learn critical thinking before being able to wield arms.

Yeah, I have a friend, with one of those odd mixes of left-wing economic policy and right-wing social policy who rants and raves about what he sees and hears in the German “Lügenpresse”.

I try to explain that those article and talking points are put there in just such a tone as to get people like him to froth at the mouth and pound on tables (which he does when he gets worked up over immigration policy)

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makeitstop  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:27:30am

Bannon, trying to get out of the way of the coming shitstorm…

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wheat-dogg  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:28:10am

Wonder how the Yam will react to this news.

Trump Tower meeting with Russians ‘treasonous’, Bannon says in explosive book
Former White House strategist quoted in Fire and Fury, by Michael Wolff
Bannon: ‘They’re going to crack Don Junior like an egg on national TV

Donald Trump’s former chief strategist Steve Bannon has described the Trump Tower meeting between the president’s son and a group of Russians during the 2016 election campaign as “treasonous” and “unpatriotic”, according to an explosive new book seen by the Guardian.

Bannon, speaking to author Michael Wolff, warned that the investigation into alleged collusion with the Kremlin will focus on money laundering and predicted: “They’re going to crack Don Junior like an egg on national TV.”

Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump White House, reportedly based on more than 200 interviews with the president, his inner circle and players in and around the administration, is one of the most eagerly awaited political books of the year. In it, Wolff lifts the lid on a White House lurching from crisis to crisis amid internecine warfare, with even some of Trump’s closest allies expressing contempt for him.

Bannon, who was chief executive of the Trump campaign in its final three months, then White House chief strategist for seven months before returning to the rightwing Breitbart News, is a central figure in the nasty, cutthroat drama, quoted extensively, often in salty language.

theguardian.com

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:29:18am

I stayed up all night just to buy a 4th weed stock. (that’s my story and I’m sticking to it.) Hello Medreleaf.

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Alyosha  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:29:58am

re: #470 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I have a friend, with one of those odd mixes of left-wing economic policy and right-wing social policy who rants and raves about what he sees and hears in the German “Lügenpresse”.

Is he expat too? Coz he sounds pretty, what’s German for Forgettenspast?

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Sir John Barron  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:31:21am

re: #471 makeitstop

Bannon, trying to get out of the way of the coming shitstorm…

Was Bannon not involved with the campaign at the point? And even if he wasn’t, why did he go to work for Trumpy and stay working for him after this news became known?

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Dizzy  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:32:32am

re: #472 wheat-dogg

Trump Tower meeting with Russians ‘treasonous’, Bannon says in explosive book
Former White House strategist quoted in Fire and Fury, by Michael Wolff
Bannon: ‘They’re going to crack Don Junior like an egg on national TV

Once Trump starts attacking Bannon, and he will eventually, I am hopeful that this will finally fracture the Trump base, those morons who followed Bannon to Trump.
Also, seeing Junior twist in the wind would be a plus.

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Alyosha  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:33:58am

re: #474 Alyosha

I have a friend, with one of those odd mixes of left-wing economic policy and right-wing social policy who rants and raves about what he sees and hears in the German “Lügenpresse”.

Is he expat too? Coz he sounds pretty, what’s German for Forgettenspast?

Goddamnit, I obviously meant Englisch.

Not Deutsche.

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JordanRules  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:34:12am
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nines09  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:34:15am

re: #471 makeitstop

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makeitstop  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:34:27am

re: #475 Sir John Barron

Was Bannon not involved with the campaign at the point? And even if he wasn’t, why did he go to work for Trumpy and stay working for him after this news became known?

Praying for short memories, from the look of it.

Problem is, spooks don’t forget. All legalities aside, they’ve got a big score to settle with everyone who was down with Trump’s treason, and Bannon is most definitely on that list.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:34:33am

re: #472 wheat-dogg

Wonder how the Yam will react to this news.

Trump Tower meeting with Russians ‘treasonous’, Bannon says in explosive book
Former White House strategist quoted in Fire and Fury, by Michael Wolff
Bannon: ‘They’re going to crack Don Junior like an egg on national TV

theguardian.com

Sounds too good to be true. It’s all deniable, “the biased review of a biased book”, when they want to play it that way.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:35:39am

re: #415 teleskiguy

Automatic Blocking Function: activated.

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The Paulbots are still active on Twitter, I’m sorry to say. The instant I mention Ron Paul, BOOM!

Ron Paul’s been pretty quiet with Trump’s attacks on the press, immigrants, etc. Gee I wonder why. Maybe because Ron Paul is a fraud.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:36:35am

re: #472 wheat-dogg

Wonder how the Yam will react to this news.

Trump Tower meeting with Russians ‘treasonous’, Bannon says in explosive book
Former White House strategist quoted in Fire and Fury, by Michael Wolff
Bannon: ‘They’re going to crack Don Junior like an egg on national TV

theguardian.com

This is too funny.

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makeitstop  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:37:09am

I have to admit - as repulsive as I find Bannon and his every waking thought, the idea of ‘cracking Junior like an egg on national TV’ really does have a nice ring to it.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:38:19am

re: #467 Sir John Barron

GOLDMAN SACHS!!!!! Drink!!!!!!1

I love how Libertarian Dudebros like Conor bitch about GS and the Banks even though they favor little to no regulations on them. Fucking hacks.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:38:59am

re: #484 makeitstop

I have to admit - as repulsive as I find Bannon and his every waking thought, the idea of ‘cracking Junior like an egg on national TV’ really does have a nice ring to it.

I really want to see Breitbart start going after Trump and confuse the hell out of the Alt-Right and make them pick sides.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:39:01am

A book coming out while Mueller is still calling witnesses it smells like a red herring to me.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:39:34am

re: #479 nines09

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Nazitality!

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HappyWarrior  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:39:53am

re: #487 PhillyPretzel

A book coming out while Mueller is still calling witnesses it smells like a red herring to me.

Yeah I don’t trust Bannon at all.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:40:00am

re: #466 Belafon

Democrats had the better candidate in 2016, but that’s not how people voted.

it is even how they voted, but in the wrong places….

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Sir John Barron  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:41:16am

re: #489 HappyWarrior

Yeah I don’t trust Bannon at all.

I trust Bannon even less than that.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:41:42am

Awwww shit. Whaddya do with this?
Calling all nerds… 911.
gizmodo.com

PRIVACY AND SECURITY
Report: All Intel Processors Made in the Last Decade Might Have a Massive Security Flaw
The exact details of the design flaw and to what extent users are vulnerable are being kept under wraps for now, per the Register, though since developers appear to be rushing towards patching systems in coming weeks it is likely very bad. In the absolute worst-case speculative scenario, something as simple as JavaScript running on a webpage or cloud-hosted malware could gain access to some of the most sensitive inner workings of an Intel-based device.

Because the fix entails severing kernel memory entirely from user processes, patched OSes could potentially see a massive performance hit of “five to 30 percent slowdown, depending on the task and processor model”:

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wheat-dogg  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:43:50am

re: #489 HappyWarrior

Yeah I don’t trust Bannon at all.

Bannon is only one character in this particular story. That said, I’m sure he’s chosen responses to suggest he is completely innocent of any wrong-doing while everyone else were a bunch of crooks and traitors.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:51:19am

re: #474 Alyosha

I have a friend, with one of those odd mixes of left-wing economic policy and right-wing social policy who rants and raves about what he sees and hears in the German “Lügenpresse”.

Is he expat too? Coz he sounds pretty, what’s German for Forgettenspast?

no, he is a native. a bit of an odd bird, he was simply out shopping for Doc Marten boots in the 80’s because he thought they were cool, at the time the only people wearing them were the Right wing skinheads in Hamburg, which is how he fell in with that scene.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:52:02am

re: #473 Single-handed sailor

I stayed up all night just to buy a 4th weed stock. (that’s my story and I’m sticking to it.) Hello Medreleaf.

Smart man….. It Trump were to legalize the market would rush so hard…… It’s like a big cracked egg waiting to hatch.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:58:53am

re: #493 wheat-dogg

Bannon is only one character in this particular story. That said, I’m sure he’s chosen responses to suggest he is completely innocent of any wrong-doing while everyone else were a bunch of crooks and traitors.

He, Mercers, Cambridge Analytica story yet to be told. It may be all legal and on the up and up, but it will come out as part of this.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:59:53am

OT I just looked at the NWS website and it does not look too good for Philly. More snow is on the way. Not too much but enough to make the roads a mess.

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Belafon  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:59:58am

re: #495 Dave In Austin

Smart man….. It Trump were to legalize the market would rush so hard…… It’s like a big cracked egg waiting to hatch.

That’s OK. Trump will never legalize it while there are black people to be arrested.

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dangerman  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:00:04am

re: #468 Alyosha

Ok, that’s it.

Goddamn I missed posting nonsense here.
Shoutout to the gals, the Sleuths and Wenches.
Wisdom.
Stanley and Klys.
You fuckin make this site.

I love all the dudes but dangerman, teleskiguy (you can be a dick I want to help but I love you), GDF, Ghost of a Flea (I need your therapy)

I was gonna start naming gals….

Everyone be as good as the gals :D

Special mention are the pedants… you I love most of all. Even as my finger hovers over the downding button.

that’s ok. i like you just fine.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:01:22am

I was at 14’ outside Austin this morning. Bluebird skies this morning and warming rapidly.

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William Lewis  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:01:39am

re: #492 Unshaken Defiance

Awwww shit. Whaddya do with this?
Calling all nerds… 911.
gizmodo.com

No surprise. This is the same company with a whole version of the MINIX OS built into all those processors as well. I always presume that an Intel CPU is compromised. If I had anything I needed real security for, I have a Sun Sparc system that I’d use instead of this Dell laptop.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:02:23am

re: #493 wheat-dogg

Bannon is only one character in this particular story. That said, I’m sure he’s chosen responses to suggest he is completely innocent of any wrong-doing while everyone else were a bunch of crooks and traitors.

True. I think Bannon will do anything to preserve himself and what he’s trying to create.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:03:10am

re: #484 makeitstop

I have to admit - as repulsive as I find Bannon and his every waking thought, the idea of ‘cracking Junior like an egg on national TV’ really does have a nice ring to it.

I posted it on a rightwing message board I frequent just to see how the Trumpanzees react.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:03:41am
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Decatur Deb  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:05:44am

re: #504 The Vicious Babushka

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Let’s not say “meltdown” for a while.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:07:10am

re: #504 The Vicious Babushka

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All they care about is “pissing off the libs.” Maybe someone should tell them we hate it when they take mallets to their heads.

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Bubblehead II  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:09:06am

re: #492 Unshaken Defiance

Awwww shit. Whaddya do with this?
Calling all nerds… 911.
gizmodo.com

Glad I only use AMD processors.

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makeitstop  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:09:23am

Trumpers: ‘He’s the president and what he says goes.’
Also Trumpers: ‘Don’t listen to him, he’s just being an asshole.’

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:12:29am

55 here in Los Angeles…Now Weather Channel says it might rain next Tuesday…WE NEED RAIN!!!!!!!!!!

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:16:47am

re: #509 Joe Bacon 🌹

While you are waiting for rain can we ship you about an inch of snow? /half

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:17:35am

re: #506 HappyWarrior

All they care about is “pissing off the libs.” Maybe someone should tell them we hate it when they take mallets to their heads.

and they set up straw men that libs hate guns, are obsessively PC, hate Christians but love Muslims.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:21:04am

re: #510 PhillyPretzel

While you are waiting for rain can we ship you about an inch of snow? /half

Make it 10. You don’t need to send it all the way, just drop it in the mountains.

(Rain forecast in Northern CA today!)

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Belafon  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:21:35am

re: #508 makeitstop

Trumpers: ‘He’s the president and what he says goes.’
Also Trumpers: ‘Don’t listen to him, he’s just being an asshole.’

“If you’d just ignore him being president, let him give our national security to the Russians, make money on his businesses, and let him arrest a few political enemies, and treat his statements as those of a madman standing on a corner, everything will be fine.”

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HappyWarrior  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:22:42am

re: #508 makeitstop

Trumpers: ‘He’s the president and what he says goes.’
Also Trumpers: ‘Don’t listen to him, he’s just being an asshole.’

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Trump insiders hate when media treats President like President.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:23:05am

re: #513 Belafon

“If you’d just ignore him being president, let him give our national security to the Russians, make money on his businesses, and let him arrest a few political enemies, and treat his statements as those of a madman standing on a corner, everything will be fine.”

Aye pretty much.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:23:20am

re: #514 HappyWarrior

Trump insiders hate when media treats President like President.

except when he makes the planes land on time

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:23:30am

re: #512 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

Hmm. I would have to go to the NJ coast for that. The NJ coast is supposed to get the bulk of the snow with this storm.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:27:06am

re: #516 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

except when he makes the planes land on time

All the accolades and none of the criticism. I’m short, we have a child in charge.

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dangerman  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:31:13am

re: #518 HappyWarrior

All the accolades and none of the criticism. I’m short, we have a child in charge.

…who gets credit for the sheer dumb luck of not having driven the bus off the road yet

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:32:18am

re: #518 HappyWarrior

I’m short, we have a child in charge.

Don’t you just love autocorrect?

521
HappyWarrior  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:32:36am

re: #519 dangerman

…who gets credit for the sheer dumb luck of not having driven the bus off the road yet

Bigotry of no expectations from the people who flipped their shit over Obama saying “I.”

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HappyWarrior  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:33:01am

re: #520 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

Don’t you just love autocorrect?

Haha goddamned phone.

523
dangerman  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:34:24am

currently:

YouTube

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makeitstop  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:38:16am

re: #517 PhillyPretzel

Hmm. I would have to go to the NJ coast for that. The NJ coast is supposed to get the bulk of the snow with this storm.

It looks like we’re gonna take a whupping up here on LI, too. Storm’s gonna be a brute.

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makeitstop  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:40:55am

One thing is for certain - Bannon’s going to be cheering when they disembowel Kushner (metaphorically, of course) as hard as the rest of us. Zero love there.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:44:29am

re: #524 makeitstop

Local NWS website says that Long Island is in a Winter Storm Warning area. All I can say is get all of your supplies together, charge up your batteries and wait it out.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:44:29am

re: #521 HappyWarrior

Bigotry of no expectations from the people who flipped their shit over Obama saying “I.”

And that was on top of what was basically an article of faith among RWNJ that Obama was DESTROYING AMERICA. Everything else Obama did or didn’t do relied on, and fed, that ultimate article of faith.

528
Big Beautiful Door  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:47:12am

While we know all the bad things that happened in 2017, lots of good things have been happening around the world as well.

529
electrotek  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:48:19am
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electrotek  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:50:42am
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ObserverArt  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:51:15am

What a world.

Kim Jong-un and Steve Bannon make more sense than Trump.

Aside: Sorry about last night. Still confused too…but that is becoming a fulltime thing.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:54:30am

re: #531 ObserverArt

What a world.

Kim Jong-un and Steve Bannon make more sense than Trump.

Aside: Sorry about last night. Still confused too…but that is becoming a fulltime thing.

Sowing permanent confusion is pretty much Step 1 in the strategy. Really—Bannon and his ilk are not attacking America. They are attacking the basis of knowledge. America is just collateral damage.

534
The Vicious Babushka  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:54:35am

re: #529 electrotek

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Not to mention, 9/11 didn’t happen yet.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:54:38am

re: #487 PhillyPretzel

A book coming out while Mueller is still calling witnesses it smells like a red herring to me.

At first I thought this was a book written by Bannon, but it’s by Michael Wolff. I was thinking, no way Bannon writes a book that rips Drumpf. But even some isolated quotes are unusually damning.

536
Dave In Austin  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:54:47am

re: #530 electrotek

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:56:25am

re: #532 Big Beautiful Door

We already knew this, but Trump’s tweets yesterday shows he spends all day watching Fox News, Trump’s primary window on what’s going on in the world.

But Pulpit Pimp Pat Robertson says that The Marmalade Shitcannon watches the 700 Club every day!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:58:57am

re: #523 dangerman

currently:

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Video

one of the first Dead albums I got into when it first came out. That and Blues for Allah are still among my favorites

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:59:08am

re: #537 Joe Bacon 🌹

But Pulpit Pimp Pat Robertson says that The Marmalade Shitcannon watches the 700 Club every day!

Bullshit. If he did he would Tweet about it!

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Sir John Barron  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:59:55am

re: #537 Joe Bacon 🌹

But Pulpit Pimp Pat Robertson says that The Marmalade Shitcannon watches the 700 Club every day!

One of Trumpy’s lawyers is a former 700 Club-dude guy, so maybe Robertson is using that as a proxy. half /

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makeitstop  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:59:58am

re: #526 PhillyPretzel

Local NWS website says that Long Island is in a Winter Storm Warning area. All I can say is get all of your supplies together, charge up your batteries and wait it out.

Yeah, we’re good as long as power holds out. I did our panic buying yesterday, so we’re all stocked up with milk and eggs. :)

542
Sir John Barron  Jan 3, 2018 • 8:01:11am

re: #537 Joe Bacon 🌹

The Marmalade Shitcannon

Damn, that’s good.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 3, 2018 • 8:03:56am

re: #537 Joe Bacon 🌹

But Pulpit Pimp Pat Robertson says that The Marmalade Shitcannon watches the 700 Club every day!

We’ll know that’s true if Trump live tweets the show. We know Trump watches Fox and Friends every morning, because he’s always tweeting about what was just on. My guess is that Trump loathes religion and never watches 700 Club.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 3, 2018 • 8:05:38am

re: #543 Big Beautiful Door

We’ll know that’s true if Trump live tweets the show. We know Trump watches Fox and Friends every morning, because he’s always tweeting about what was just on. My guess is that Trump loathes religion and never watches 700 Club.

WRONG PRESIDENT TRUMP WAS ANNOINTED BY G-D TO SAVE THIS COUNTRY AND MAGA AND BRING BACK TRUE CHRISTIAN RELIGION TO U.S. AND BRING ON THE APOCALYPSE!!!!!111

545
Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 3, 2018 • 8:06:36am

Jesus. What kind of weak-ass government holds rallies while it’s in power?

Oh. Right.

546
PhillyPretzel  Jan 3, 2018 • 8:06:46am

re: #541 makeitstop

Do you need any bread? /half

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 3, 2018 • 8:23:25am

I first shared this a year ago today.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 3, 2018 • 8:27:36am

re: #478 JordanRules

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Our guy also ate the shoe!

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Sir John Barron  Jan 3, 2018 • 8:28:00am

re: #545 Blind Frog Belly White

Jesus. What kind of weak-ass government holds rallies while it’s in power?

Oh. Right.

Street protesters should be run over by cars, here is my bill to let people run over protesters, hurr hurr

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Jay C  Jan 3, 2018 • 8:29:50am

re: #545 Blind Frog Belly White

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Jesus. What kind of weak-ass government holds rallies while it’s in power?

Oh. Right.

The kind who don’t balk at adding “or else” to the official “invitations” to the rally participants…

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HappyWarrior  Jan 3, 2018 • 8:36:22am

Just saw a headline about Eric Trump tweeting about Ellen Degeneres. Must be mad because Ellen’s Better with girls than him.

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electrotek  Jan 3, 2018 • 8:38:25am

re: #551 HappyWarrior

Just saw a headline about Eric Trump tweeting about Ellen Degeneres. Must be mad because Ellen’s Better with girls than him.

Gold.

553
makeitstop  Jan 3, 2018 • 8:44:19am

Whoa if true…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 3, 2018 • 8:45:36am

re: #553 makeitstop

Key context here:

House Intel Dems want to recall Don Jr to question him about the call he held with his father, after the news of this meeting broke.

Ds want to subpoena.

Nunes appears to be resisting this.

Long Live the Resistance!!!

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bratwurst  Jan 3, 2018 • 8:48:31am
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Ace-o-aces  Jan 3, 2018 • 8:50:24am
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Dr Lizardo  Jan 3, 2018 • 8:55:18am

re: #556 Ace-o-aces

Trump will probably tweet something to the effect that Bannon had virtually nothing to do with the campaign and was essentially irrelevant in his role in the White House.

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DodgerFan1988  Jan 3, 2018 • 8:58:51am

No racism here folks. Move along, move along.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 3, 2018 • 9:01:15am
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nines09  Jan 3, 2018 • 9:02:32am

Just got locked out of Twitter. Nope. Just certain functions. Maybe I should try @jack again…Maybe it was telling @jack he should block Trump for threatening to harm others. Then I said I’d bet he’d block me if I said fuck. So I said, fuck, and reported Trump. And I guess I’m right.

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makeitstop  Jan 3, 2018 • 9:03:15am

Another country (guess which one) weighs in…

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 3, 2018 • 9:05:19am
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nines09  Jan 3, 2018 • 9:06:15am
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dangerman  Jan 3, 2018 • 9:06:18am

re: #560 nines09

Just got locked out of Twitter. Maybe it was telling @jack he should block Trump for threatening to harm others. Then I said I’d bet he’d block me if I said fuck. So I said, fuck, and reported Trump. And I guess I’m right.

do not threaten the orange goose that lays the golden eggs

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nines09  Jan 3, 2018 • 9:08:26am

re: #564 dangerman

do not threaten the orange goose that lays the golden eggs

I thought @jack would be too busy counting money. I tell someone to walk off a roof and I’m a bad actor. POTUS talks about pushing big buttons that work (wink wink) and it’s completely normal.

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Belafon  Jan 3, 2018 • 9:08:27am

re: #561 makeitstop

Another country (guess which one) weighs in…

“It’s not fair! People who do their homework get better grades than those that don’t.”

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nines09  Jan 3, 2018 • 9:10:29am
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makeitstop  Jan 3, 2018 • 9:13:26am
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CongoJack  Jan 3, 2018 • 9:19:47am

Has anything else been unpacked from the Fusion GPS request that their testimony be released to the public (assume that is what re: #568 makeitstop is talking about)? Rachel Maddow was brilliant last night - per usual. I haven’t heard or seen any more information on that revelation.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 3, 2018 • 9:20:38am

This is good:

Doug Jones does not invite Senator Richard Shelby, picks ex-VP Joe Biden as escort

waaytv.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 3, 2018 • 9:21:19am

re: #561 makeitstop

Donald Trump voters are discovering the iniquities of federal US grand jury system: a pseudo-judicial mechanism that has been corrupted to give prosecutors unaccountable powers and indict over 99% of the time.

unless it involves a white police officer in Ferguson

572
FormerDirtDart  Jan 3, 2018 • 9:22:25am

re: #559 The Vicious Babushka

From May 2016

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garzooma  Jan 3, 2018 • 9:23:53am

re: #471 makeitstop

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“Even if you thought that this was not treasonous, or unpatriotic, or bad shit, and I happen to think it’s all of that…”

How many Democrats have called the Trump campaign “treasonous”? I’ll be emailing my congressional delegation (all Democrats) asking about it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 3, 2018 • 9:29:34am

re: #573 garzooma

How many Democrats have called the Trump campaign “treasonous”? I’ll be emailing my congressional delegation (all Democrats) asking about it.

because they know that nobody will take them seriously

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 3, 2018 • 9:33:05am

Hello? Hello? Is this thing on?

North Korea and South Korea established contact on a hotline that’s been dormant for almost two years Wednesday, a major diplomatic breakthrough following a year of escalating hostility and a move that could pave the way for future talks.

North Korean leader Kim Jong Un gave the order to open the line at 3:00 p.m local time (1:30 a.m. ET), according to an announcement on state media in the hours before the two phone calls to the South took place.
According to South Korea’s Unification Ministry, the North Koreans made first contact at exactly the time ordered, and the sides were on the phone from 3:30 p.m. to 3:50 p.m. local time (South Korea is half an hour ahead of North Korea).
During the initial 20-minute connection, the two nations “checked technical issues of the communication line,” according to a statement from South Korea’s Unification Ministry.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 3, 2018 • 9:33:25am

re: #561 makeitstop

Another country (guess which one) weighs in…

Ah, love this, the centuries old practice of grand juries is now a “pseudo-judicial mechanism”.

Dear Wikileaks/Russia, FO.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 3, 2018 • 9:35:31am

Apparently the Michael Wolff book that quotes Bannon has a lot more damning stuff, including evidence legal advisor Mark Corallo (sp?) resigned right after the statement on Don Jr’s meeting with Russians was crafted on AF1 believing it obstruction of justice.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 3, 2018 • 9:35:52am

re: #576 Sir John Barron

Ah, love this, the centuries old practice of grand juries is now a “pseudo-judicial mechanism”.

Dear Wikileaks/Russia, FO.

and the machinery of government, which by nature has to be run by professionals whose careers span more than one presidency, is now a perfidious, Soros-funded, Obama-led “Deep State”.

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makeitstop  Jan 3, 2018 • 9:36:12am

re: #576 Sir John Barron

Ah, love this, the centuries old practice of grand juries is now a “pseudo-judicial mechanism”.

Dear Wikileaks/Russia, FO.

I’m getting a strong feeling that something big is about to happen.

Trump melting down, the Fusion op-ed, that Bannon leak, DiFi’s letter (and the acknowledgement that Grassley didn’t co-sign)… something’s gotta be about to break.

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lawhawk  Jan 3, 2018 • 9:37:06am

re: #561 makeitstop

Russia’s puppet/useful idiot, malevolent extrajudicial entity is looking to screw around with the US justice system and public opinion, which benefits Trump (and Russia).

Never mind that they’re silent all the time about Russia’s justice system, the extrajudicial killings there of Putin’s political enemies, and the single minded determination by this entity to undermine US institutions. It’s as though it was designed with the express purpose to undermine US institutions and ignore far worse issues elsewhere.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 3, 2018 • 9:37:55am

Jones has been sworn in, and Roy Moore’s campaign manager has announced he will primary Martha Roby, mah wuthl’ss Representative. That means the lady I’m supporting has about a 1:350 chance instead of 1:500.

Moore is a gift that keeps on giving.

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makeitstop  Jan 3, 2018 • 9:44:10am

Damn. ‘Like for Putin.’

583
Jay C  Jan 3, 2018 • 9:45:39am

re: #575 Shropshire Slasher

Hello? Hello? Is this thing on?

North Korea and South Korea established contact on a hotline that’s been dormant for almost two years Wednesday, a major diplomatic breakthrough following a year of escalating hostility and a move that could pave the way for future talks.

North Korean leader Kim Jong Un gave the order to open the line at 3:00 p.m local time (1:30 a.m. ET), according to an announcement on state media in the hours before the two phone calls to the South took place.
According to South Korea’s Unification Ministry, the North Koreans made first contact at exactly the time ordered, and the sides were on the phone from 3:30 p.m. to 3:50 p.m. local time (South Korea is half an hour ahead of North Korea).
During the initial 20-minute connection, the two nations “checked technical issues of the communication line,” according to a statement from South Korea’s Unification Ministry.

Just wait: I’m guessing that no matter what transpires between the two Koreas (and just on a WAG, I’d say fairly little), Trump and his crack* foreign-policy team - probably with Niki Numbwits as front - are going to be gloating and crowing and taking credit for - something/anything** - as validation for their “tough” FP approach.

* mainly because they seem like they’re ON crack most of the time.

** shooting war (nuclear or conventional) excepted. Maybe.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 3, 2018 • 9:48:06am

I so love blueberry candy canes. I picked up two boxes, 50% off. I am so sweet I will give you diabeatus.

585
sagehen  Jan 3, 2018 • 9:52:46am

I just watched the extended interview of last night’s Daily Show guest, Yara Shahidi (she plays Zoey on Black-ish, and the stars in the spinoff that starts this week)

cc.com

The girl is impressive as all hell, and fascinating. She’s half Iranian — her grandmother was caught up in the travel ban, and her cousins are currently protesting in the streets in Iran. On her Black American side, one cousin is an astronaut, another is Nas (“my family has high expectations, that’s just how we do things”).

She’s taking a gap year before going to Harvard — the major she’s chosen is an interdepartmental thing they call “social studies”, it’s a combined Sociology/Anthro/Econ/Philosophy, and then wants to work in a “politics adjacent” non-profit. Her recommendation letters for his college application were from her AP Calculus teacher, and Michelle Obama.

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makeitstop  Jan 3, 2018 • 9:58:51am

In the ‘Yeah, I’ll never get one of those’ department - The 10 most expensive guitars in history.

Those numbers - in the words of Kelly Bundy, ‘The mind wobbles.’

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 3, 2018 • 10:03:23am

Chucky “Rage Furbie” Johnson’s BFF claims the only alternative to “free speech” is genocide:

588
I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 3, 2018 • 10:10:27am
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nines09  Jan 3, 2018 • 10:10:48am

re: #586 makeitstop

I like to be able to touch my dreams. I’ll be visiting my sons and grand daughters in April in Colorado. Been out a few times, and always liked eat at Lulu’sin Louisville Co. Guess what’s just down the street from there? Wildwood Guitars.
So I’m going to grab my plate, throw back a few Texas Slushies and disturb the staff fondling 4 and 8 thousand dollar guitars.
Check out the inventory.

590
Barefoot Grin  Jan 3, 2018 • 10:13:26am

re: #586 makeitstop

In the ‘Yeah, I’ll never get one of those’ department - The 10 most expensive guitars in history.

Those numbers - in the words of Kelly Bundy, ‘The mind wobbles.’

After I win the Powerball thingy tonight I’ll probably get one of those, yeah…..

591
makeitstop  Jan 3, 2018 • 10:14:38am

re: #589 nines09

I like to be able to touch my dreams. I’ll be visiting my sons and grand daughters in April in Colorado. Been out a few times, and always liked eat at Lulu’sin Louisville Co. Guess what’s just down the street from there? Wildwood Guitars.
So I’m going to grab my plate, throw back a few Texas Slushies and disturb the staff fondling 4 and 8 thousand dollar guitars.
Check out the inventory.

Drooling, I am.

592
Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 3, 2018 • 10:16:42am

re: #587 The Vicious Babushka

Sick freaks.

593
nines09  Jan 3, 2018 • 10:16:44am

re: #591 makeitstop

It’s a Wonderland. Go in there after a hearty round or 5 of Kush and they’ll never get me out alive…
The inventory is insane.
Almost forgot. They have at least one Gretsch Billy Bo. gahhhhhh.

Billy Bo

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 3, 2018 • 10:22:47am
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Dr Lizardo  Jan 3, 2018 • 10:26:09am

re: #594 The Vicious Babushka

Trumpites vs Bannonites?

Let Them Fight HD

596
Stanley Sea  Jan 3, 2018 • 10:27:56am

OMG the yam’s statement about Bannon is gold.

597
dangerman  Jan 3, 2018 • 10:28:12am

re: #594 The Vicious Babushka

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your primary was “the most talented field ever assembled in the republican party?

omg i think i just broke something laughing so hard

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Stanley Sea  Jan 3, 2018 • 10:28:52am
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makeitstop  Jan 3, 2018 • 10:29:29am

re: #590 Barefoot Grin

After I win the Powerball thingy tonight I’ll probably get one of those, yeah…..

The most expensive one I’ve got is maybe 1/30th of the worth of the cheapest one on that list. And that was a pile of money, relatively speaking.

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 3, 2018 • 10:29:38am

re: #594 The Vicious Babushka

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Sir John Barron  Jan 3, 2018 • 10:29:48am

re: #581 Decatur Deb

Jones has been sworn in, and Roy Moore’s campaign manager has announced he will primary Martha Roby, mah wuthl’ss Representative. That means the lady I’m supporting has about a 1:350 chance instead of 1:500.

Moore is a gift that keeps on giving.

Roy Moore is already not conceding defeat in this race, too.

602
nines09  Jan 3, 2018 • 10:31:07am

re: #591 makeitstop

They have a youtube channel with one of my favorite never heard of guitarists, Greg Koch.

Run for the Hills (Greg Koch Makes a Break for It) • A Wildwood Short

youtube.com

603
Belafon  Jan 3, 2018 • 10:31:11am

Seeing Wormtongue turn on Sauromon is pretty good.

604
Ace-o-aces  Jan 3, 2018 • 10:31:58am
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makeitstop  Jan 3, 2018 • 10:32:06am

re: #602 nines09

They have a youtube channel with one of my favorite never heard of guitarists, Greg Koch.

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Greg’s great. Plays his ass off, and he’s funny as all hell.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 3, 2018 • 10:33:11am
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Stanley Sea  Jan 3, 2018 • 10:34:42am

jeebus

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 3, 2018 • 10:35:42am
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allegro  Jan 3, 2018 • 10:38:00am

re: #600 Ace-o-aces

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It does look too coherent. Yet, it’s all Trump. I’d say he dictated it and it was cleaned up for grammar and full sentences.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 3, 2018 • 10:38:28am

because as SarahK says: Bannon’s primary interest is Bannon.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 3, 2018 • 10:40:00am

re: #596 Stanley Sea

OMG the yam’s statement about Bannon is gold.

Needs moar broken beer bottles.

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Belafon  Jan 3, 2018 • 10:40:33am

re: #608 Backwoods_Sleuth

This book will not be admissible in any court. So, at best, we laugh at it. Too much else to do to get all excited about it.

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allegro  Jan 3, 2018 • 10:45:43am

re: #612 Belafon

This book will not be admissible in any court. So, at best, we laugh at it. Too much else to do to get all excited about it.

May not be admissible itself but turning up the circular firing squad to 11ty can have great benefit. Entertaining at least.

614
Dave In Austin  Jan 3, 2018 • 10:49:07am
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I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 3, 2018 • 10:49:45am

I think as long as the button is not at a golf course we should be fine.

616
Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 3, 2018 • 10:52:21am

re: #594 The Vicious Babushka

It reads like a damn parody but I know it’s not.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 3, 2018 • 10:55:27am
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garzooma  Jan 3, 2018 • 10:55:55am

re: #608 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Sarah Kendzior
[…]
Michael Wolff has a record of lying, and his primary interest is Michael Wolff.

What’s Michael Wolff’s “record of lying”?

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Skip Intro  Jan 3, 2018 • 10:56:24am

If he was not having his 6:30 dinner with Steve Bannon, then, more to his liking, he was in bed by that time with a cheeseburger, watching his three screens and making phone calls — the phone was his true contact point with the world — to a small group of friends, who charted his rising and falling levels of agitation through the evening and then compared notes with one another.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 3, 2018 • 10:56:29am

The predictions that Mitch McConnell would refuse to seat Tina Smith as the new Senator from Minnesota, thereby somehow allowing the GOP to enact its entire agenda, proved to be inaccurate. We’ll see in November how accurate the predictions are that Michelle Bachmann will easily defeat her in the special election.

startribune.com

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 3, 2018 • 10:56:32am

I never knew a Presidential campaign needed so many coffee boys…

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 3, 2018 • 10:56:54am

It’s lying-assed liars all the way down.

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Skip Intro  Jan 3, 2018 • 10:59:49am

How the famous Trump hair is done, as explained by his daughter.

She often described the mechanics behind it to friends: an absolutely clean pate — a contained island after scalp-reduction ­surgery — surrounded by a furry circle of hair around the sides and front, from which all ends are drawn up to meet in the center and then swept back and secured by a stiffening spray. The color, she would point out to comical effect, was from a product called Just for Men — the longer it was left on, the darker it got. Impatience resulted in Trump’s orange-blond hair color.

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Belafon  Jan 3, 2018 • 11:06:11am

re: #621 Eclectic Cyborg

I never knew a Presidential campaign needed so many coffee boys…

“Coffee boy” is a label similar to “escort”.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 3, 2018 • 11:06:37am
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makeitstop  Jan 3, 2018 • 11:07:45am

re: #618 garzooma

What’s Michael Wolff’s “record of lying”?

The Columbia Journalism Review criticized Wolff in 2010 when he suggested that The New York Times was aggressively covering the breaking News International phone hacking scandal as a way of attacking News Corporation chairman Rupert Murdoch. CJR called Wolff’s analysis “pathetic”, “disgusting”, “twisted”, and based on “zero evidence”.

en.wikipedia.org

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 3, 2018 • 11:09:13am

re: #612 Belafon

This book will not be admissible in any court. So, at best, we laugh at it. Too much else to do to get all excited about it.

Didn’t the dishonest Clinton Cash book serve to start an FBI investigation? It might not be admissible in court but it can be used for media reporting and police inquiries.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 3, 2018 • 11:11:18am

IT’S A RATFUCKAGANZA!!!!!

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ObserverArt  Jan 3, 2018 • 11:13:20am

re: #602 nines09

They have a youtube channel with one of my favorite never heard of guitarists, Greg Koch.

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That dude is one hell of a player. I and my jamming buddy have been watching many of his YouTube videos since you turned LGF onto him. He can play all styles and mimic any guitarist very well. And his clarity of the notes in his runs would make Jimmy Page blush and want to say “that’s what I meant to do.”

And he fits what I always thought…throw out the Guitar Player and Rolling Stone top one hundred lists…the best guitar player is probably not on them.

I always thought some guy in some basement somewhere playing in a little unknown band was the one.

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makeitstop  Jan 3, 2018 • 11:16:27am

re: #629 ObserverArt

That dude is one hell of a player. I and my jamming buddy have been watching many of his YouTube videos since you turned LGF onto him. He can play all styles and mimic any guitarist very well. And his clarity of the notes in his runs would make Jimmy Page blush and want to say “that’s what I meant to do.”

And he fits what I always thought…throw out the Guitar Player and Rolling Stone top one hundred lists…the best guitar player is probably not on them.

I always thought some guy in some basement somewhere playing in a little unknown band was the one.

This guy is still my guy. I’m sad every day that he’s no longer among us.

Danny Gatton - Elmira St boogie

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jaunte  Jan 3, 2018 • 11:16:47am

So, today Breitbart has no more standing with Tang Nero, who gave up the relative anonymity of his real estate money laundering business in the most public Peter Principle elevation-to-incompetence in modern history.

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jaunte  Jan 3, 2018 • 11:18:44am
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nines09  Jan 3, 2018 • 11:18:57am

re: #629 ObserverArt

He’s a riot and completely unassuming. He’s the kind of player you stumble across in some fleabag dive and look around and ask yourself how many people actually know what they are witnessing.
He has, like I like to say, “it”.
Look up Wildwood story time with Greg Koch.
He’s a scream.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 3, 2018 • 11:19:15am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 3, 2018 • 11:19:41am

re: #628 The Vicious Babushka

Ratfuckapalooza?

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Belafon  Jan 3, 2018 • 11:20:52am

If the Democrats take a chamber this fall, one of the things I would like for them to file is an official record stating that they do not consent to Trump earning money off of his property.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 3, 2018 • 11:21:03am

“This administration will self-destruct in 60 seconds. Good luck, Mr. Mueller!”

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 3, 2018 • 11:21:12am

re: #635 Eclectic Cyborg

Ratfuckapalooza?

This whole Trump/Bannon/Wolff kerfuffle.

This book is a bunch of gossip and stupid shit.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 3, 2018 • 11:21:36am

re: #631 jaunte

Tang Nero

Damn, that’s good, too.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 3, 2018 • 11:22:18am

Some of it might be fact-based but it’s mostly bullshit.

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jaunte  Jan 3, 2018 • 11:23:51am
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Dr. Matt  Jan 3, 2018 • 11:25:05am

re: #632 jaunte

It is my considered opinion that there is absolutely nobody in charge of the country right now.
— Charles P. Pierce (@CharlesPPierce) January 3, 2018

Isn’t that the basic premise of American Conservatism?

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dangerman  Jan 3, 2018 • 11:26:06am

re: #641 jaunte

selling out american uranium for cash to your foundation or sending $500 million illegally to iran. that is treason.

good that neither of those things happened then

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 3, 2018 • 11:27:09am
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jaunte  Jan 3, 2018 • 11:27:43am

re: #643 dangerman

Flat earthers, Pizzagaters, and UraniumOne-ers are True Believers.

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makeitstop  Jan 3, 2018 • 11:30:19am

re: #638 The Vicious Babushka

This whole Trump/Bannon/Wolff kerfuffle.

This book is a bunch of gossip and stupid shit.

Strong whiff of kayfabe, now that you mention it.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 3, 2018 • 11:31:08am

re: #644 The Vicious Babushka

In the Trump-Bannon divorce, who gets custody of Gorka?

— Matt Duss

There is unbelievable winning going on today.

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Belafon  Jan 3, 2018 • 11:32:30am

re: #646 makeitstop

Strong whiff of kayfabe, now that you mention it.

Which is why I suggested laughing.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 3, 2018 • 11:55:16am

re: #640 The Vicious Babushka

Some of it might be fact-based but it’s mostly bullshit.

bullshit in search of confirmation bias, which is available in abundance these days.


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