Trump Dissolves His Fraudulent “Election Integrity” Commission

It was a scam from the start, and state governments refused to play along
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In addition to the circular firing squad currently going on over Steve Bannon’s comments about Trump, we have some more good news to report.

Remember that bogus “election integrity” commission Trump formed to look into one of the right’s favorite fantasies, “voter fraud?” The commission that savvy people realized was intended to further disenfranchise minority and disadvantaged voters, to ensure future right wing control of government? Headed by white nationalist-connected anti-immigration activist Kris Kobach?

It’s gone. 86’ed. History. Trump dissolved it today with a typically petulant statement, blaming it on state governments that refused the commission’s outrageous requests for the personal information of hundreds of millions of voters.

There are still a couple of troubling things in this statement:

  1. It says "despite substantial evidence of voter fraud..." when in fact there is nearly zero real evidence of voter fraud.
  2. What in the hell does the Department of Homeland Security have to do with voting? This is disturbing.
UPDATE at 1/3/18 6:41:11 pm by Charles Johnson

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191 comments

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Skip Intro  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:01:12pm

DHS will be good for suppressing voting by the wrong kind of people. I imagine that ICE will have agents at all big city voting areas.

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nines09  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:02:20pm

“Trump Dissolves” would have been so much more pleasing…

out

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:02:21pm

Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. Do you mean to tell me that Trump lied about voter fraud?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:03:34pm

Trump is looking very, very bad, incredibly very not good, sad! The bags underneath his eyes are bigger than his eyes!

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:03:48pm

Even more excellent news! Happy fucking New Year all :)

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:03:56pm

re: #2 nines09

“Trump Dissolves” would have been so much more pleasing…

out

Throw water on his hair.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:04:53pm

re: #4 The Vicious Babushka

Trump is looking very, very bad, incredibly very not good, sad! The bags underneath his eyes are bigger than his eyes!

YUGE BAGS, THE BIGGEST!

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:05:16pm

re: #4 The Vicious Babushka

Almost as big as his gut.

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bratwurst  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:06:05pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:10:11pm

re: #3 Ace Rothstein

Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. Do you mean to tell me that Trump lied about voter fraud?

It would be a bigger story if he told the truth about something.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:13:00pm

From last thread.

re: #234 Stanley Sea

Typo

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A Court recently ruled that the commission was required to share all working documents with the Matthew Dunlap, a Democratic member.

That’s the real reason Trump is dissolving the commission, they’d rather kill it than let evidence of their flagrantly illegal voter suppression scheme come to light.

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lawhawk  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:14:12pm

Trump touted the voter fraud EO as a major achievement, and within hours of 2018 disbanded its legal underpinning.

It wont end the Trump/GOP efforts to suppress voter turnout by claiming voter fraud at every opportunity. That Trump’s looking to somehow leverage DHS into the mix is extremely troubling. It also is an attempt to trample on federalism - you know, states’ rights since voting is a state activity. States control their own voting procedures and it’s the states, many of them with GOP in key positions like Secretary of State, including in states like Alabama, and they’ve certified votes that idiot bigots like Moore and Trump claim were hotbeds of voter fraud because they lost elections.

The GOP/Trump efforts behind this are all about racism and bigotry, and suppressing votes to get the outcome desired - ongoing power and control.

Kobach has been at this for years, and despite all of his investigations, he’s come up blank precisely because there isn’t voter fraud, not of the kind he thinks.

There’s voter suppression, which means far more people lose their right to vote, or see hurdles placed in their way that are meant to dissuade people from voting - many poor, many minorities.

This is what the GOP wants, because their core support is a dwindling demographic.

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ObserverArt  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:14:31pm

re: #11 Charles Johnson

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I came across a field full and sky full of crows one time driving to my brother’s house in northern Ohio. It really was intimidating. There had to be hundreds, maybe thousands, they were everywhere munching on a cut down cornfield on a nice mild December morning and then flying above the field. And it was a very large corn field.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:15:15pm

Not a bad day in the forest. The baddies are going cannibal, a good guy is in the Senate, and Daughter1 tells me IronStache is following her. She said he has asked about LGF, so watch the language—he’s an innocent iron worker.

Also—we have another very good Alabama Dem lady coming after Martha Roby:

tabithaisner.com

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:17:18pm

OT Philadelphia Public and Archdiocesan schools are closed. And a snow emergency will be declared at 1201am. Translation: the city will be closed except for emergency services.
philadelphia.cbslocal.com

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:18:33pm

re: #15 Decatur Deb

Not a bad day in the forest. The baddies are going cannibal, a good guy is in the Senate, and Daughter1 tells me IronStache is following her. She said he has asked about LGF, so watch the language—he’s an innocent iron worker.

Also—we have another very good Alabama Dem lady coming after Martha Roby:

tabithaisner.com

An innocent iron worker? I’m confused.

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allegro  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:18:50pm

re: #16 PhillyPretzel

OT Philadelphia Public and Archdiocesan schools are closed. And a snow emergency will be declared at 1201am. Translation: the city will be closed except for emergency services.
philadelphia.cbslocal.com

And the children rejoice.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:19:38pm

re: #17 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

An innocent iron worker? I’m confused.

Might not be able to handle us in full rant.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:20:18pm

re: #18 allegro

And some adults too. I will probably be at home tomorrow. :)

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lawhawk  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:21:12pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:21:27pm

re: #12 goddamnedfrank

Why was material being withheld from a member of the commission in the first place? Very odd.

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makeitstop  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:22:38pm

re: #22 Patricia Kayden

Why was material being withheld from a member of the commission in the first place? Very odd.

He’s a Democrat.

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lawhawk  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:23:04pm

re: #16 PhillyPretzel

NYC public schools are closed tomorrow. Many Long Island school districts are also closed. Some NJ districts are also closing.

I will be working from home rather than chance mass transit or roads that are a mess.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:23:04pm

There’s a really good reason why our ancestors didn’t drink the water.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:25:42pm

The most corrupt and stupid administration ever.

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makeitstop  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:25:53pm

Thread.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:26:31pm

re: #25 Blind Frog Belly White

::: hauling out my 12 qt stock pot :::
I will boil my own water if I have to. This is nuts.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:26:58pm

re: #25 Blind Frog Belly White

There’s a really good reason why our ancestors didn’t drink the water.

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I’d want the $25 a gallon swamp water, it has to be better than the $15 a gallon stuff.

//

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:27:36pm

re: #26 HappyWarrior

The most corrupt and stupid administration ever.

And scary and dangerous as hell. Go Mueller!!

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HappyWarrior  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:28:01pm

re: #30 Patricia Kayden

And scary and dangerous as hell. Go Mueller!!

Yep. They all need to go.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:28:25pm

So Trump spent $125,000,000 on a fraud voter fraud panel that he just shut down?!

(let the wingnuts come up with another number, I’ll like mine until proven otherwise.)

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:29:44pm

re: #27 makeitstop

But Bannon wasn’t part of the losing campaign. Trump won. Not sure why Bannon is going after Trump except that he may be trying to avoid indictment. Who knows?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:30:42pm

re: #33 Patricia Kayden

But Bannon wasn’t part of the losing campaign. Trump won. Not sure why Bannon is going after Trump except that he may be trying to avoid indictment. Who knows?

I think it’s a couple things:) I think you may be right but I think Bannon may feel Trump isn’t living up to his promises. Or that Bannon is only in it to create chaos and he doesn’t actually want real elected power.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:31:09pm

re: #25 Blind Frog Belly White

I can’t see how selling unsanitary water would even be legal under state and federal food and drug laws, especially in Cali.

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ObserverArt  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:31:49pm

Well, one thing…Bannon’s book changed everyone from talking about nuclear annihilation.

Amazing the dips and dives on this Trump Ride to Make America Embarrassed Like Never Before…Again.

What will tomorrow bring?

I think you almost need a neck brace for the news…it’s like a ride on the original Cedar Point Blue Streak Roller Coaster. Not so much height as fast in the turn back to want to launch you out the seat and all the fast stomach churning humps.

That’s this Trump ride.

Hey…of course there is YouTube. (This is probably recent. They slowed up the turnback 200° turn and took some of the banking of it out of the original ride. It was a little too much)

Blue Streak Front Seat POV 2014 FULL HD Cedar Point

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:31:50pm

re: #35 wheat-dogg

I can’t see how selling unsanitary water would even be legal under state and federal food and drug laws, especially in Cali.

That’s okay. Trump’s FDA will make sure this whole enterprise is kosher.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:32:59pm

re: #25 Blind Frog Belly White

There’s a really good reason why our ancestors didn’t drink the water.

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And that’s why Johnny Appleseed was trying to get people to grow apple trees. Not good for eating, but you could at least make a potable cider.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:33:45pm

Poor Kim Jung-Un, can’t even get a full news cycle.

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teleskiguy  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:35:29pm
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JordanRules  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:35:36pm

Thread!
Had a feeling this wasn’t isolated to Intel puter brains.

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makeitstop  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:37:08pm

re: #33 Patricia Kayden

But Bannon wasn’t part of the losing campaign. Trump won. Not sure why Bannon is going after Trump except that he may be trying to avoid indictment. Who knows?

Hoarse points that out in the thread.

There’s a method to it…

It’s better for your future hire-ability to be hated by losers than beloved by them.

The only twist here is that Bannon is going scorched earth on a team that “won” an election.

2/

Make no mistake though… Steve Bannon has run the scenario and concluded his personal future is better served by going thermonuclear on Team Trump…

While that says nothing about his motives, it does crush the idea there’s a secret backroom plot.

There never was.

3/

Trump is an utterly dysfunctional narcissist. Bannon is little better.

Narcissists sometimes end up on the same team but seldom stay there.

Bannon thinks he’s going to come out better off as Trump’s Public Enemy #1 than as his forgotten accomplice.

4/

Trump’s profound disorder makes him incapable of not responding to these slights and insults ennnnnndlessly… and come a year from now, Bannon thinks that will be more useful than Trump’s silent affections.

5/

Ultimately, these are all still highly dysfunctional people.

This is an Idiot’s Macbeth.

Birnam Woods approaches and all the while the players are busy lighting each other’s fatal flaws ablaze like… I dunno.. tiki torches.

Oh, the irony.

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lawhawk  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:37:16pm

re: #33 Patricia Kayden

But Bannon wasn’t part of the losing campaign. Trump won. Not sure why Bannon is going after Trump except that he may be trying to avoid indictment. Who knows?

Separation.

Bannon thinks that Trump is going down in some form, and this gives Bannon the separation he thinks he’s going to get to influence future elections as a campaign guru/Rasputin type.

I think it could also be an audition for getting a deal from Mueller.

I want to see Bannon testify under oath to Mueller about what he knew/saw about everyone related to the June meeting and all those other interactions that would support the conspiracy and other criminal charges that could and should be forthcoming.

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ObserverArt  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:37:43pm

re: #33 Patricia Kayden

But Bannon wasn’t part of the losing campaign. Trump won. Not sure why Bannon is going after Trump except that he may be trying to avoid indictment. Who knows?

Books to sell, Interviews, Articles. There is money and outrage to be made here. Look at the guy, he loves chaos. Especially when people are paying attention to him and he is getting paid.

He and Trump could be brothers in a way.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:38:21pm

Hey Charles,
For the past few weeks I haven’t been able to watch videos in embedded tweets.
Other, non-tweet associated, videos play fine. gifs in tweets play fine.
If I open the tweet in a separate tab, not associated with LGF page, the videos play fine.
When LGF is viewed in Chrome, the video just shows it is endlessly spooling. Using Firefox the video window shows black with a “This media could not be played” message.”

Like I stated, if I click on the the tweets timestamp, in either browser, and open the tweet in a new tab, the videos will play fine.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:39:54pm

re: #40 teleskiguy

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I’d be shocked if he knew who this was before he died.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:41:27pm

Another day, and more “winning” we are so tired of! What a joke.

On a lighter note, finally did a pot roast in the Instant Pot. So. Damn. Good. Didn’t even need a knife.

Imgur

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:44:56pm

re: #45 FormerDirtDart

Hey Charles,
For the past few weeks I haven’t been able to watch videos in embedded tweets.
Other, non-tweet associated, videos play fine. gifs in tweets play fine.
If I open the tweet in a separate tab, not associated with LGF page, the videos play fine.
When LGF is viewed in Chrome, the video just shows it is endlessly spooling. Using Firefox the video window shows black with a “This media could not be played” message.”

Like I stated, if I click on the the tweets timestamp, in either browser, and open the tweet in a new tab, the videos will play fine.

Oddly, I had not tried the “video” button until just now, and the videos play fine that way. In both Chrome & Firefox browsers

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:45:00pm

re: #47 GlutenFreeJesus

Another day, and more “winning” we are so tired of! What a joke.

On a lighter note, finally did a pot roast in the Instant Pot. So. Damn. Good. Didn’t even need a knife.

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Nice. I did a roast in my new slow cooker for New Years Eve with a little help from my lizard friends. It turned out great! I love that I can now cook cheaper cuts for hours without worrying that it will burn with the settings that automatically turn to ‘warm’ when done.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:45:43pm

re: #41 JordanRules

Thread!
Had a feeling this wasn’t isolated to Intel puter brains.

[Embedded content]

Is there someone here with the skill to evaluate the claims made in this thread? Do all computers suffer from a serious security flaw that leaves them vulnerable to a serious (or not so serious) hacker?

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JordanRules  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:45:57pm

Wolff’s book has been done right?
So we should be keeping in mind that Bannon likely dropped his bombs a while ago.

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William Lewis  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:46:19pm

re: #45 FormerDirtDart

Hey Charles,
For the past few weeks I haven’t been able to watch videos in embedded tweets.
Other, non-tweet associated, videos play fine. gifs in tweets play fine.
If I open the tweet in a separate tab, not associated with LGF page, the videos play fine.
When LGF is viewed in Chrome, the video just shows it is endlessly spooling. Using Firefox the video window shows black with a “This media could not be played” message.”

Like I stated, if I click on the the tweets timestamp, in either browser, and open the tweet in a new tab, the videos will play fine.

Click the video three times and it plays. eta: I’m using google chrome.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:46:37pm

re: #51 JordanRules

Wolff’s book has been done right?
So we should be keeping in mind that Bannon likely dropped his bombs a while ago.

I think it’s to be published soon but yeah Bannon would have dropped those bombs perhaps in the fall or summer while Wolff was researching.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:47:05pm

It’s gotta kill Trump who thinks he’s brilliant having people talk shit about him.

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JordanRules  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:48:20pm

re: #50 Hecuba’s daughter

Definitely not me and I’d love to get additional feedback too. Don’t forget the accompanying NYT piece.

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ObserverArt  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:48:26pm

re: #45 FormerDirtDart

Hey Charles,
For the past few weeks I haven’t been able to watch videos in embedded tweets.
Other, non-tweet associated, videos play fine. gifs in tweets play fine.
If I open the tweet in a separate tab, not associated with LGF page, the videos play fine.
When LGF is viewed in Chrome, the video just shows it is endlessly spooling. Using Firefox the video window shows black with a “This media could not be played” message.”

Like I stated, if I click on the the tweets timestamp, in either browser, and open the tweet in a new tab, the videos will play fine.

Sounds like it may be related to this. Some of us changed this setting to user activation required and it hosed some videos just like you mention. Maybe it got changed by a choice made for a video or site or something. Make sure it says it is Default Mode.

Go to this Chrome page by opening a new tab and typing this link in: chrome://flags/# autoplay-policy

Be sure to remove the extra space I had to put in between the # and the autoplay so it didn’t show as a hashtag.

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makeitstop  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:48:39pm

re: #54 HappyWarrior

It’s gotta kill Trump who thinks he’s brilliant having people talk shit about him.

I’m tellin’ ya.

That book has got the Apple of his Eye, Ivanka, mocking his fucking hair.

He probably doesn’t know who to be pissed off at first.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:49:10pm

re: #57 makeitstop

I’m tellin’ ya.

That book has got the Apple of his Eye, Ivanka, mocking his fucking hair.

He probably doesn’t know who to be pissed off at first.

Hahahha I missed that. Not Ivanka!

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wheat-dogg  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:49:43pm

re: #47 GlutenFreeJesus

Another day, and more “winning” we are so tired of! What a joke.

On a lighter note, finally did a pot roast in the Instant Pot. So. Damn. Good. Didn’t even need a knife.

[Embedded content]

I bought a local equivalent of an Instant Pot over the weekend. I needed a rice cooker, so it seemed to be a logical upgrade. I am hooked! Made rice in 13 minutes one night, and a stew last night in 40, Hardest part was deciphering the instruction manual, which is naturally all in Chinese.

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fern01  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:49:59pm

re: #40 teleskiguy

Sure reads like he hasn’t a clue who the guy is.

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makeitstop  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:51:19pm

re: #58 HappyWarrior

Hahahha I missed that. Not Ivanka!

Here.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:51:42pm

re: #50 Hecuba’s daughter

Is there someone here with the skill to evaluate the claims made in this thread? Do all computers suffer from a serious security flaw that leaves them vulnerable to a serious (or not so serious) hacker?

It’s looking like it is, in fact, very plausible. I’m not a hard-core hardware designer, but the concepts described in the article are known to me, and if it is correct that hackers have managed to exploit the hardware mechanism that is outlined, then… unfortunately, yes.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:52:30pm

re: #52 William Lewis

Click the video three times and it plays. eta: I’m using google chrome.

OK, that works in Chrome for me, but in Firefox it doesn’t go into “spooling mode”, just white screens, then black message screen, so nothing to click 3 times.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:53:54pm

re: #62 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

It’s looking like it is, in fact, very plausible. I’m not a hard-core hardware designer, but the concepts described in the article are known to me, and if it is correct that hackers have managed to exploit the hardware mechanism that is outlined, then… unfortunately, yes.

So now we all turn off wifi and return to our isolated little worlds?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:54:01pm

re: #49 Barefoot Grin

If you’re ever up for trying something new, look up sous vide. This is another cooking method that makes gold out of cheap cuts of meat!

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Stanley Sea  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:54:56pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:57:00pm

re: #59 wheat-dogg

I bought a local equivalent of an Instant Pot over the weekend. I needed a rice cooker, so it seemed to be a logical upgrade. I am hooked! Made rice in 13 minutes one night, and a stew last night in 40, Hardest part was deciphering the instruction manual, which is naturally all in Chinese.

I see an assignment for your students in the near future. ;)

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:57:04pm

re: #64 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

So now we all turn off wifi and return to our isolated little worlds?

It’s not quite as bad as all that. This is an unmitigated disaster for, as an example, cloud service providers - a malicious hacker can spin up a virtual machine, run compromised code on it, and be able to read the memory contents of the entire server upon which the virtual machine is created, within the given timing window (the attack is essentially a timing attack, taking advantage of the processor trying to optimize away the delay between getting approval from the hardware to read data, and actually reading the data). For ordinary users of ordinary machines, it might be possible for a hacker to gain access to any privileged information if you keep it on your machine, but they’re not going to take control of your computer and turn it into a botnet zombie.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 3, 2018 • 5:58:52pm

re: #65 GlutenFreeJesus

If you’re ever up for trying something new, look up sous vide. This is another cooking method that makes gold out of cheap cuts of meat!

Of course. Sous vide [opens new tab and furiously googles]….

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:00:44pm

re: #69 Barefoot Grin

The Anova Precision Cooker is the most popular tools for home cooks. Highly recommended. :)

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wheat-dogg  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:02:51pm

re: #67 GlutenFreeJesus

I see an assignment for your students in the near future. ;)

The thought had occurred to me.

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fern01  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:02:53pm

re: #54 HappyWarrior

It’s gotta kill Trump who thinks he’s brilliant having people talk shit about him.

Fake news - just fake news - not true

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teleskiguy  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:04:13pm

Facebook is hot fucking garbage, Exhibit Eleventy Billion.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:08:11pm

re: #56 ObserverArt

Sounds like it may be related to this. Some of us changed this setting to user activation required and it hosed some videos just like you mention. Maybe it got changed by a choice made for a video or site or something. Make sure it says it is Default Mode.

Go to this Chrome page by opening a new tab and typing this link in: chrome://flags/# autoplay-policy

Be sure to remove the extra space I had to put in between the # and the autoplay so it didn’t show as a hashtag.

OK, that worked. Unfortunately, I typically view LGF in Firefox.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:08:55pm

re: #68 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Thanks, that’s slightly reassuring. I’m still glad I froze all my credit after the Equifax debacle, though.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:09:54pm

Techno-babble behind the spoiler tag…

Spectre and Meltdown are variations on the same theme; Meltdown affecting an Intel-specific implementation, Spectre attacking the general concept, which applies to all modern processors. The root cause is that anything done in software is slow, and so the major leaps in processing speed have been hardware trying to do things that are usually done in software. The concept at issue here is called “speculative execution”. A computer program takes lots of different paths based on conditions; if this, then that, etc., etc. Modern processors store a history of these paths, and if it sees something it thinks is familiar, it goes ahead and executes those instructions before the program actually calls for them to be executed, in the background, anticipating that the result will be needed later and can be instantly recalled. If it isn’t needed, the processor has lost nothing by executing those instructions off-cycle, and the result is thrown away. The exploit is involved in setting the program up to read an area of memory it is not allowed to read; the processor goes ahead and reads that data off-cycle while the operating system checks to see if the program is actually allowed to read that memory. The malicious program then interrupts the processor and copies that pre-fetched data out before the operating system denies the request and causes the data to be erased.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:11:39pm

re: #55 JordanRules

Definitely not me and I’d love to get additional feedback too. Don’t forget the accompanying NYT piece.

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Thank you for linking the article. At least it’s clear that security experts are very concerned about the vulnerability of our systems. I assume that this flaw affects the Turbo Tax cloud storage for tax returns — a feature I’ve been using for years.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:13:23pm
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makeitstop  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:13:44pm

Okay, this spot is serious competition for the sloth.

TurboTax 2018 Commercial “Closet” (Official :60) TV ad

I love that lil’ guy.

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JordanRules  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:14:49pm

re: #76 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Really good breakdown. Thank you!

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ObserverArt  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:15:29pm

re: #74 FormerDirtDart

OK, that worked. Unfortunately, I typically view LGF in Firefox.

Do a Google search and see if there is a similar setting in Firefox. Look for “autoplay video settings” or the like. They have updated Firefox a couple times over the last few weeks. So, maybe something was weird with a new setup.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:15:57pm

re: #80 JordanRules

Really good breakdown. Thank you!

My day job involves trying to reduce complex technical questions and decisions to the level that a business executive can understand, as well as why I recommend a specific choice. I’m slowly getting better.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:18:32pm

re: #77 Hecuba’s daughter

Thank you for linking the article. At least it’s clear that security experts are very concerned about the vulnerability of our systems. I assume that this flaw affects the Turbo Tax cloud storage for tax returns — a feature I’ve been using for years.

Proof of concept has been done. There is no evidence to suggest that this has been actively exploited at this time, but by the nature of what it is and how it works, it would be very difficult to detect if it had been done.

Software mitigation is in progress, although imperfect.

The disclosure was supposed to be later this week, for what it is worth. There’s been a fair amount of work going on behind the scenes on this for a while.

Honestly on the list of things I am concerned about as likely to impact me as a person it is very, very low down on the list.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:18:39pm

There’s something seriously wrong in Donald Trump’s head.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:21:57pm

re: #83 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Proof of concept has been done. There is no evidence to suggest that this has been actively exploited at this time, but by the nature of what it is and how it works, it would be very difficult to detect if it had been done.

Software mitigation is in progress, although imperfect.

The disclosure was supposed to be later this week, for what it is worth. There’s been a fair amount of work going on behind the scenes on this for a while.

Honestly on the list of things I am concerned about as likely to impact me as a person it is very, very low down on the list.

To elaborate on this a little, the exploit requires the system in question to already be compromised to the point where an attacker can run any program they want on it without detection. If proper security measures are followed, this should not be a concern. It is a concern for major enterprises because of the huge amount of automation involved in keeping all the physical and virtual systems up-to-date on patches and such.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:22:02pm
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JordanRules  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:22:37pm

re: #82 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Ive worked in IT mostly on the operations and business side (some low, low level tech support when I was a youngin) and our best engineers were the ones who could do what you did really well.

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meteor  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:22:41pm

re: #9 bratwurst

This sounds like some Communist Party denunciation shit.

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meteor  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:24:53pm

re: #26 HappyWarrior

Except for Zaphod Beeblebrox.

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gocart mozart  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:29:06pm

I thought I would keep the president informed about current developments

from

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wheat-dogg  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:29:28pm

Trying to talk himself up …

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JordanRules  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:29:47pm

::squints::

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:31:15pm

this also happened today:

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JordanRules  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:32:54pm

re: #93 Backwoods_Sleuth

I spy a Cubs shirt peaking thru his hoodie!

Welcome new baby Hayes!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:34:11pm
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ObserverArt  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:34:39pm

re: #93 Backwoods_Sleuth

this also happened today:

[Embedded content]

Joy had that photo up this evening sitting in for Hayes tonight. She also had one where the newborn wasn’t even all cleaned up yet, and she had a big ol’ grin on her face like “Look out world…Imma gonna be something.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:34:47pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:36:35pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:40:43pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:40:56pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:43:13pm
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JordanRules  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:43:42pm
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Belafon  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:47:04pm

re: #99 Charles Johnson

They will fail as bad as this commission.

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meteor  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:48:21pm

re: #93 Backwoods_Sleuth

Squee!

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:48:36pm

re: #101 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Ugh! Of course he wasn’t going to give up trying to stop minorities from voting. Let the lawsuits against DHS commence.

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Scout  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:50:10pm

It was a lovely morning here, cold and clear. Then I looked at my hometown newspaper and saw this:

Suicide prevention group slams YouTube celebrity Logan Paul over controversial video

It makes me so angry when Americans come here and act like giant scum bags.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:51:29pm

re: #100 Backwoods_Sleuth

There is no way in hell that guy will be confirmed. The circumstances surrounding this are outrageous.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:51:58pm

re: #91 wheat-dogg

Does Trump ever wonder why if everything is going so well, his poll numbers are so horrid?

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:52:19pm

re: #108 Patricia Kayden

Fake polls.

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Skip Intro  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:52:36pm

re: #107 Ace Rothstein

There is no way in hell that guy will be confirmed. The circumstances surrounding this is outrageous.

He doesn’t have to be confirmed. The job is his.

I take it back. The Senate does have to confirm him.

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JordanRules  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:52:37pm

re: #108 Patricia Kayden

They dismiss anything they don’t like as fake.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:52:52pm

re: #101 Charles Johnson

re: #103 Belafon

They will fail as bad as this commission.

re: #105 Patricia Kayden

Ugh! Of course he wasn’t going to give up trying to stop minorities from voting. Let the lawsuits against DHS commence.

One big difference, all “voter fraud investigation” information/instructions/communications at DHS should be available via FOIA. that info wasn’t FIOA accessible under the commission.

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makeitstop  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:53:23pm

re: #107 Ace Rothstein

There is no way in hell that guy will be confirmed. The circumstances surrounding this is outrageous.

But it’s not a nomination, it’s an appointment. Congress effectively has no say at this point.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:55:17pm

re: #113 makeitstop

My mistake, I misunderstood. Now it’s even worse.

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ObserverArt  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:55:35pm

re: #106 Scout

It was a lovely morning here, cold and clear. Then I looked at my hometown newspaper and saw this:

Suicide prevention group slams YouTube celebrity Logan Paul over controversial video

It makes me so angry when Americans come here and act like giant scum bags.

I heard there is a big drive to get him banned from YouTube for that video. I guess it was pretty bad and totally cold and unfeeling.

What the heck was he thinking? Oh wait…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:56:49pm

re: #110 Skip Intro

He doesn’t have to be confirmed. The job is his.

according to the Hill article:

Trump will tap Geoffrey Berman as the next U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York, the newspaper reported. Berman’s appointment is contingent on Senate confirmation.

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Skip Intro  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:57:38pm

re: #116 Backwoods_Sleuth

I misunderstood Blumenthal’s tweet. Need two Republicans to find their spine.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:58:29pm

re: #117 Skip Intro

I misunderstood Blumenthal’s tweet.

I did, too. Then I read the article. I don’t know which one is correct.

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teleskiguy  Jan 3, 2018 • 6:59:34pm
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Stanley Sea  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:00:49pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:01:46pm

re: #98 Backwoods_Sleuth

Alien poops.

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Belafon  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:01:48pm

re: #120 Stanley Sea

[Embedded content]

Splitting the Republican party.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:02:15pm
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JordanRules  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:02:37pm

re: #120 Stanley Sea

Enjoying his time in the sun today.

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allegro  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:04:13pm

re: #122 Belafon

Splitting the Republican party.

Not seeing a downside to this.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:04:21pm

re: #122 Belafon

Splitting the Republican party.

And the alt right.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:04:30pm

re: #125 allegro

Not seeing a downside to this.

Nope.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:05:00pm
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Belafon  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:06:04pm

re: #125 allegro

Not seeing a downside to this.

Even if only the a’s, an’s and the’s are true in the book, what we’re watching is great.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:06:29pm

Very interesting thread!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:06:50pm
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teleskiguy  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:09:08pm
Popcorn Time!
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HappyWarrior  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:09:24pm

re: #130 Stanley Sea

Very interesting thread!

[Embedded content]

Sounds like a fascinating read.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:09:31pm

re: #131 klys (maker of Silmarils)

[Embedded content]

One of Mrs. Fish’s sisters had 10 kids. After observing them for a short time, I can completely understand why she is a borderline psychopath and her kids are a hair’s breadth away from being lawless demons.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:09:58pm

re: #132 teleskiguy

[Embedded content]

[Embedded content]

Bannon’s done I think.

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JordanRules  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:10:13pm

re: #132 teleskiguy

Welllllllllll…….
Shit might have just got real.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:10:36pm

Bannon like Trump is going to find out the hard way he has no real friends.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:11:16pm
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stpaulbear  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:11:18pm

re: #131 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Chris Hayes’ wife should see that…

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ObserverArt  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:12:43pm

re: #135 HappyWarrior

Bannon’s done I think.

I don’t see him as the type to go quietly. So, this is going to get loud and he will burn people down.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:13:39pm

The day the “requests” were made, Alison was the second or third Secretary of State to refuse to comply.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:15:18pm

re: #140 ObserverArt

I don’t see him as the type to go quietly. So, this is going to get loud and he will burn people down.

Certainly and I’d love to see him take out Trump with him.

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gocart mozart  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:15:29pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:16:01pm

re: #141 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

The day the “requests” were made, Alison was the second or third Secretary of State to refuse to comply.

I don’t like how she ran against Mitch but she’s a good public servant.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:20:54pm
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allegro  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:22:48pm

So without Mercer money what happens to Breitbart?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:24:16pm

re: #146 allegro

So without Mercer money what happens to Breitbart?

SKADOOSH.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:24:36pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:24:55pm

heh

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teleskiguy  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:24:57pm

re: #146 allegro

So without Mercer money what happens to Breitbart?

It’ll start looking like Free Republic, ya know, HTML from the 1990s and no pictures.

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Belafon  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:25:48pm

re: #141 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

The day the “requests” were made, Alison was the second or third Secretary of State to refuse to comply.

My oldest, now a Kentucky resident, will get to vote for here wherever she is running.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:26:41pm

re: #149 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh

[Embedded content]

The Church of Satan really aren’t bad people. The Evangelicals that suck off Trump otoh.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:27:14pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:29:03pm

re: #146 allegro

So without Mercer money what happens to Breitbart?

Hopefully out of business. I’d especially be amused if the Trump NN decision played a role in why considering those ignorant fucks cheered that bs.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:29:10pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:30:14pm

re: #152 HappyWarrior

The Church of Satan really aren’t bad people. The Evangelicals that suck off Trump otoh.

The Church of Stan, at least, is openly honest about its intent. Evangelicals pretend to serve Jesus, but they really only serve themselves; however, you don’t find that out until you’re so far down the rabbit hole that you need a surgical extraction.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:30:55pm
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Belafon  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:31:43pm

re: #149 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh

[Embedded content]

The responses to Rhonda’s tweet are good.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:32:48pm

re: #157 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Trumpettes believe in a golden society where 1% get golden parachutes and everyone else gets a golden shower…

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Belafon  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:34:25pm

re: #159 Joe Bacon 🌹

Trumpettes believe in a golden society where 1% get golden parachutes and everyone else gets a golden shower…

They’ve convinced themselves that golden showers are good for them, but refuse to see how they start.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:34:28pm

re: #158 Belafon

The responses to Rhonda’s tweet are good.

yep. I liked the first batch:

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Charles Johnson  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:34:53pm
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TedStriker  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:35:58pm

re: #159 Joe Bacon 🌹

Trumpettes believe in a golden society where 1% get golden parachutes and everyone else gets a golden shower…

R. Kelly was there way before Trump.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:38:50pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:39:06pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:40:46pm
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Belafon  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:41:35pm

re: #164 FormerDirtDart

[Embedded content]

OMG, wouldn’t it be great if Bannon ended up causing the nullification of Trumps NDAs.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:43:14pm

re: #166 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Yeah, umm, nuke jokes don’t go so well out here in flyover country where we, y’know, actually KEEP THE NUKES that you would actually be using (and are, of course, the prime targets for the guys who would be shooting nukes back at us).

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HappyWarrior  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:43:37pm

re: #156 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The Church of Stan, at least, is openly honest about its intent. Evangelicals pretend to serve Jesus, but they really only serve themselves; however, you don’t find that out until you’re so far down the rabbit hole that you need a surgical extraction.

Remember what you said about autocorrect earlier? :) The Church of Stan, I’m humbled my uncle has a church named after him but joshing aside, I agree completely. And besides it’s obvious Chelsea was having a good chuckle with the person who runs that Twitter account and she- Chelsea being called Satanic.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:44:07pm

re: #166 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Yeah nuclear war is hilarious guys.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:45:02pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:45:45pm

re: #169 HappyWarrior

Remember what you said about autocorrect earlier? :) The Church of Stan, I’m humbled my uncle has a church named after him but joshing aside, I agree completely. And besides it’s obvious Chelsea was having a good chuckle with the person who runs that Twitter account and she- Chelsea being called Satanic.

Dunno if you’ve been around long enough, but Stan is an old-timer’s joke around here.

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gocart mozart  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:46:29pm
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gocart mozart  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:47:22pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:47:25pm

re: #172 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Dunno if you’ve been around long enough, but Stan is an old-timer’s joke around here.

Oh I thought you just made a typo. I’m familiar with Stan and Satan jokes. Hail Uncle Stan, he fish in Heaven and be much shorter than my Grandpa was.

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ObserverArt  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:47:38pm

Anyone else think Trump’s lawyers mentioning the non disclosure agreements after they are freaking out about the Bannon book gives the book some validity?

Hey, lets push the NDAs and tell him to shut up about all this stuff that is coming out.

Except it is already out. Going to be hard to stop it now.

What a law team.

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makeitstop  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:47:57pm

re: #164 FormerDirtDart

Attorneys for President Trump send Steve Bannon a cease and desist letter citing the non disclosure agreement he signed during the campaign

That particular cow has exited the barn, no?

What’s gonna do, block the release of the book?

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Charles Johnson  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:48:43pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:49:27pm

re: #175 HappyWarrior

Oh I thought you just made a typo. I’m familiar with Stan and Satan jokes. Hail Uncle Stan, he fish in Heaven and be much shorter than my Grandpa was.

At least it’s better than getting a tattoo that reads “HAIL SATIN”.

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Belafon  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:49:42pm

re: #174 gocart mozart

[Embedded content]

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:51:48pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:52:33pm

re: #179 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

At least it’s better than getting a tattoo that reads “HAIL SATIN”.

Or Kyle. Though I’m sure someone will see him eventually.

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Skip Intro  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:53:21pm

Let me be the first one to say this year that Gen. Kelly is doing one hell of a job so far. Truly outstanding.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:53:54pm

re: #183 Skip Intro

Let me be the first one to say this year that Gen. Kelly is doing one hell of a job so far. Truly outstanding.

Truly a gatekeeper! Unlike Reince.//

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makeitstop  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:57:15pm

re: #179 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

At least it’s better than getting a tattoo that reads “HAIL SATIN”.

That’s a Long Island joke, from the Ricky Kasso case, where they told their murder victim to ‘Say you love Satin.’

That murder took place in my wife’s home town of East Northport.

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mmmirele  Jan 3, 2018 • 7:59:11pm

re: #177 makeitstop

That particular cow has exited the barn, no?

What’s gonna do, block the release of the book?

Actually, the book can’t be blocked. That’s prior censorship and is almost completely inimical to the First Amendment. There is an argument which could be made about national security, but I don’t think this book qualifies. Plus, that horsie’s out of the barn; some of the press have the book already. (Note: If you work or worked for a three-letter agency, one of the conditions of your employment includes review of your books, but that’s not prior censorship.)

I’m personally wondering if the non-disclosure agreement Bannon signed with “Donald J. Trump for President, Inc.” is void as a matter of public policy? Also, the letter talks about libel but fails to note that Trump is the quintessential public figure and would have to demonstrate “actual malice” to be able to win any damages. (Which is nearly impossible to do.) Also, considering how awful Trump is (and this can be demonstrated on the record), I’m thinking it’s literally impossible to libel the guy.

I’ve asked one of my more astute lawyer buddies in New York about the NDA but it will be tomorrow before I hear back from him, I’m thinking. Just as a side note, one of our
Republican (!) Arizona legislators filed a bill for consideration in our “meth lab of democracy” to make NDAs for sexual harassment illegal.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 3, 2018 • 8:00:04pm

re: #45 FormerDirtDart

Hey Charles,
For the past few weeks I haven’t been able to watch videos in embedded tweets.
Other, non-tweet associated, videos play fine. gifs in tweets play fine.
If I open the tweet in a separate tab, not associated with LGF page, the videos play fine.
When LGF is viewed in Chrome, the video just shows it is endlessly spooling. Using Firefox the video window shows black with a “This media could not be played” message.”

Like I stated, if I click on the the tweets timestamp, in either browser, and open the tweet in a new tab, the videos will play fine.

I’m having this issue too. OS X 10.9.5, Firefox 57.0.3

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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 3, 2018 • 8:01:45pm

re: #48 FormerDirtDart

Oddly, I had not tried the “video” button until just now, and the videos play fine that way. In both Chrome & Firefox browsers

I wasn’t doing that, either. I’ll try the video button.

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cat-tikvah  Jan 3, 2018 • 8:06:07pm

re: #110 Skip Intro

My GOP Senator Pat “Rubber Stamp” Toomey will have no problem voting yes.

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BeachDem  Jan 3, 2018 • 8:08:29pm

re: #92 JordanRules

::squints::

[Embedded content]

Yeah, when two white guys named Tucker and Chadwick discuss racism, I’m all ears.
//

(And does Tucker have any other expression than his bemused, head-tilted scowl?)

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allegro  Jan 3, 2018 • 8:10:03pm

re: #162 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

As interesting is Mom’s face giving Jr a side-eye of her own. Don’t do it…. do not…


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