A Raging Donald Trump Threatens Michael Wolff’s Publisher, Demands They Withdraw His Book

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Our so-called president is not in the best of moods today; in addition to threatening author Michael Wolff and Trump’s former consigliere Stephen Bannon with a defamation lawsuit over Wolff’s bombshell book, his lawyers have also threatened Wolff’s publisher and demanded that they cease publication.

In an 11-page letter, the president’s lawyer said the book, “Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump White House,” by Michael Wolff, as excerpted in a magazine article, includes false statements about Mr. Trump that “give rise to claims for libel” that could result in “substantial monetary damages and punitive damages.”

“Mr. Trump hereby demands that you immediately cease and desist from any further publication, release or dissemination of the book, the article, or any excerpts or summaries of either of them, to any person or entity, and that you issue a full and complete retraction and apology to my client as to all statements made about him in the book and article that lack competent evidentiary support,” the letter said.

So Trump is claiming Michael Wolff lied about all the statements from various Trump aides quoted in the book? Just one little problem with this line of attack: Wolff reportedly has dozens of hours of recordings to back up those quotes.

It’s doubtful that Trump would actually follow through with these lawsuit threats anyway, because it would mean exposing himself to depositions under oath and the discovery process, and we know that’s the last thing he wants.

UPDATE at 1/4/18 1:09:15 pm by Charles Johnson
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darthstar  Jan 4, 2018 • 12:53:01pm

Why doesn’t he just buy the publisher? He’s rich. Right?

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Acemarilllion  Jan 4, 2018 • 12:53:07pm

Orange snowflake seeks book freeze.

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darthstar  Jan 4, 2018 • 12:53:46pm
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Kragar  Jan 4, 2018 • 12:54:17pm
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Kragar  Jan 4, 2018 • 12:57:22pm
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Sir John Barron  Jan 4, 2018 • 12:57:53pm

re: #5 Kragar

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 4, 2018 • 12:59:21pm

The Orange blowhard making more empty threats. Donald, you have no clothes, and we are all laughing at you, and there’s nothing you can do about it.

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lawhawk  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:01:16pm

Trump absolutely ignores the 1A. He doesn’t care about free speech, let alone anyone critical of him. He sees anyone critical of him as the enemy who must be destroyed and their opinions squashed.

He isn’t presidential, let alone fulfilling his oath to protect and defend the Constitution. He’s too busy defecating on it and wiping himself with the fecal matter to know what he’s doing about this or anything else.

Wolff’s book clearly shows Trump is incompetent and is a clear and present danger to himself, the nation, and the world. That Trump thinks he can try to suppress this book shows he’s incapable of taking any criticism, or that he understands (or cares) what the law is.

Trump’s assertion is that the book is libelous? Guess what - truth is an absolute defense, and if Wolff has video/audio recordings of these interactions, then the truth is the defense and there’s absolutely nothing Trump can do to stop the book from publication.

Indeed, there’s anecdotal evidence from all corners of Trumpworld that the people surrounding Trump consider Trump to be a fucking idiot. Not just Mattis but Murdoch and others. Still others are trying to play up to Trump’s know-nothing reactionary sensibilities to stick around and cash out a little more before they’re done too.

This is what happens when you watch a party sell its soul to the lowest common denominator of the party - racists, bigots, and ignorant about how anything actually works so that the GOP leaders exploit the ignorance with bigotry, deflection, all while enriching themselves and their cronies and passing the burdens on to everyone - including their very base supporters who don’t realize they’re getting screwed.

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darthstar  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:01:48pm
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Sir John Barron  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:02:07pm

re: #4 Kragar

making sure that information is accurate before pushing it out as fact when it certainly and clearly is not

I wonder which facts are they disputing?

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:02:14pm

I’ve just ordered my copy; I absolutely have to read this book.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:02:22pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:02:35pm

Lre: #8 lawhawk

Trump absolutely ignores the 1A. He doesn’t care about free speech, let alone anyone critical of him. He sees anyone critical of him as the enemy who must be destroyed and their opinions squashed.

He isn’t presidential, let alone fulfilling his oath to protect and defend the Constitution. He’s too busy defecating on it and wiping himself with the fecal matter to know what he’s doing about this or anything else.

Wolff’s book clearly shows Trump is incompetent and is a clear and present danger to himself, the nation, and the world. That Trump thinks he can try to suppress this book shows he’s incapable of taking any criticism, or that he understands (or cares) what the law is.

Trump’s assertion is that the book is libelous? Guess what - truth is an absolute defense, and if Wolff has video/audio recordings of these interactions, then the truth is the defense and there’s absolutely nothing Trump can do to stop the book from publication.

Indeed, there’s anecdotal evidence from all corners of Trumpworld that the people surrounding Trump consider Trump to be a fucking idiot. Not just Mattis but Murdoch and others. Still others are trying to play up to Trump’s know-nothing reactionary sensibilities to stick around and cash out a little more before they’re done too.

This is what happens when you watch a party sell its soul to the lowest common denominator of the party - racists, bigots, and ignorant about how anything actually works so that the GOP leaders exploit the ignorance with bigotry, deflection, all while enriching themselves and their cronies and passing the burdens on to everyone - including their very base supporters who don’t realize they’re getting screwed.

I’ve never seen anything by Trump that suggests he believes in a free press.

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:03:02pm
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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:03:42pm

re: #11 Big Beautiful Door

I’ve just ordered my copy; I absolutely have to read this book.

I never read this kind of book… but I’m thinking about it.

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allegro  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:03:46pm

I have a feeling in my bones that Trump will be resigning soon after Jan.12.

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darthstar  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:04:29pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:05:21pm

re: #12 Stanley Sea

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Dayum. That’s good.

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Kragar  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:05:26pm
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allegro  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:05:39pm

re: #17 darthstar

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You’d have to include someone to read it to him.

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:07:30pm

Oh Mooch, don’t ever change.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:08:10pm

re: #21 Ace-o-aces

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Oh Mooch, don’t ever change.

Lol!

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Jenner7  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:08:20pm

I’m so glad we have a President who relies on Fox and Friends for foreign policy.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:08:58pm

re: #23 Jenner7

I’m so glad we have a President who relies on Fox and Friends for foreign policy.

Bret Baier kniwscmiew then the generals.//

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dangerman  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:09:49pm

re: #12 Stanley Sea

Remarkable piece by @JamesFallows: “What Wolff is describing is an OPEN SECRET…” theatlantic.com

well of course it is
we here at lgf have been speculating about much of this stuff, in specifics, and without any benefit of inside knowledge or contacts

we’ve known. we’ve always known

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lawhawk  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:10:08pm

re: #9 darthstar

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Charles Johnson  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:10:26pm
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dangerman  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:10:48pm

re: #14 Ace-o-aces

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“doesn’t count. i wasnt president then”

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stpaulbear  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:11:48pm

re: #9 darthstar

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Spicer’s own book sales must have peaked.

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:11:49pm
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majii  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:11:52pm

What’s up with this? This cabal of cheap, stupid b*st*rds want Wolff to give them a free copy of his book so they can use it to sue him.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:12:21pm

Random thought occurred to me: will the yam have to do one of those treadmill stress tests during his upcoming physical? There is no way he’ll be able to get past more than the first minute of it.

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ObserverArt  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:12:32pm

re: #24 HappyWarrior

Bret Baier kniwscmiew then the generals.//

You creating new language Happy?

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dangerman  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:12:42pm

re: #26 lawhawk

All Spicer did during his tenure was lie and project the dishonest views of the admin - debasing himself and the nation.

he gave sarah time to get her game on

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:12:59pm

re: #4 Kragar

This is the same President who retweeted anti-Muslim videos from a British White Supremacist and then it turned out that the videos weren’t what they were purported to be. Sanders claiming that Trump is interested in truth and accuracy is hilarious.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:13:01pm

re: #33 ObserverArt

You creating new language Happy?

Finger slipped. Knows more.

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lawhawk  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:14:26pm

re: #12 Stanley Sea

It’s not even an open secret.

Everyone who watched Trump all along knows Trump lacked character, judgment, or temperament to be president, let alone hold any elected office anywhere.

He was elected despite this - the GOP ignored all the warning signs because their hate of Clinton superseded all else, and they got an added boost from Russia who considers chaos in DC to inure benefits to them no matter the outcome.

Russia got the best outcome they could have hoped for - a government in chaos, no leadership worldwide from the US, and a self-absorbed and vainglorious know nothing who refuses to learn anything about anything and therefore retreats into his fact-free bubble to feel better about himself.

Trump is demonstrably making the US less safe, undermining the US economy, and leaving the world stage to rivals like Russia and China to have their way with the world as the US simply ignores its commitments and alliances because Trump feels slighted when allies don’t agree with him 100%.

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:14:44pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:15:36pm
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Skip Intro  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:16:02pm

re: #32 Backwoods_Sleuth

Random thought occurred to me: will the yam have to do one of those treadmill stress tests during his upcoming physical? There is no way he’ll be able to get past more than the first minute of it.

Only if he can ride in a golf cart.

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KerFuFFler  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:16:29pm

re: #8 lawhawk

…Indeed, there’s anecdotal evidence from all corners of Trumpworld that the people surrounding Trump consider Trump to be a fucking idiot. Not just Mattis but Murdoch and others. Still others are trying to play up to Trump’s know-nothing reactionary sensibilities to stick around and cash out a little more before they’re done too….

Yeah, Tillerson also called him an effing moron. And all the handlers preparing his twice daily ego boosting summaries have to figure what an emotionally needy idiot he is.

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stpaulbear  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:17:27pm

re: #11 Big Beautiful Door

I’ve just ordered my copy; I absolutely have to read this book.

Amazon is still showing a Jan 9 release date. Maybe they’re not in place for a Jan 5th release yet. B&N has updated to tomorrow. I’m going to wait until it’s released in hopes that the price gets discounted some more (B&N sometimes discounts new releases 40%). I need to own it too. I bet it would have been the best seller of ‘17 if it had been released two weeks ago.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:17:59pm

re: #27 Charles Johnson

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Trump will be beside himself with rage if Wolff’s book outsells his “Art of the Deal”. LOL.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:20:32pm
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darthstar  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:20:58pm

re: #21 Ace-o-aces

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Oh Mooch, don’t ever change.

I always wanted to do a before/after tweet…stolen.

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Belafon  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:21:29pm

re: #44 Charles Johnson

You’d think his DNA came back containing MLK’s.

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Kragar  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:22:38pm
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Single-handed sailor  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:23:09pm

Meanwhile in Canada…

Canadian cannabis producers set their sights on global domination

As medical marijuana is legalized around the world, Canadian producers are ready to export it. And while California is the latest U.S. state to legalize marijuana, American producers are shut out of the global market because of the federal prohibition on the drug. That leaves Canada room to pursue the international market and all the potential riches that go with it.

Sessions announcement resulted in a selloff of Canadian cannabis stocks in today’s trading.

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:23:34pm

re: #42 stpaulbear

I just ordered it from Barnes and Noble and their site said the due date was 1/9. When I added it to my cart I got an error, but when I refreshed the page the date had been changed to 1/5.

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darthstar  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:23:43pm

re: #47 Kragar

Time for Tillerson to come out and say, “Don’t worry…it’s cool. We didn’t need those allies anyway.”

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:23:51pm

re: #38 Ace-o-aces

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Gerrymandering still worked.

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darthstar  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:24:33pm

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:25:05pm

re: #44 Charles Johnson

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So it’s Trump over Bannon even at Breitbart. And Bannon thinks he can be nominated and elected?

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Old Liberal  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:26:48pm

re: #48 Single-handed sailor

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Meanwhile in Canada…

Canadian cannabis producers set their sights on global domination

Sessions announcement resulted in a selloff of Canadian cannabis stocks in today’s trading.

My guess is that Altria group and others have paid-under the table- for the rights to distribute. Gotta put sumpin’ in for the liquor and beer interests too. Can’t have some upstarts take over.

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lawhawk  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:28:11pm

re: #52 darthstar

Fact not in evidence: Pence has a soul.

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jimmyvluv4u  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:32:29pm

¯\_(⊙︿⊙)_/¯

“They thought this was going to be a positive book for the President.”

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Jenner7  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:34:48pm

re: #56 jimmyvluv4u

“The communications team urged all of the senior advisors to cooperate. They thought this was going to be a positive book for the President.”

Pardon me, but:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!

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Bubblehead II  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:34:48pm

Well this sucks.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:35:11pm

re: #56 jimmyvluv4u

¯\_(⊙︿⊙)_/¯

“They thought this was going to be a positive book for the President.”

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Then your lawsuit is bs. You don’t get to sue because a book doesn’t portray you in the best light.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:35:37pm

re: #57 Jenner7

“The communications team urged all of the senior advisors to cooperate. They thought this was going to be a positive book for the President.”

Pardon me, but:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!

As delusional as Trump himself.

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darthstar  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:37:07pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:37:38pm

re: #61 darthstar

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Lol. Yeah. That’s not happening.

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BeachDem  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:40:20pm

re: #15 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

I never read this kind of book… but I’m thinking about it.

Amazon-

Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #1 Paid in Kindle Store
Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #1 in Books
Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #1 in Books

I ordered the kindle version just now

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:40:21pm

re: #32 Backwoods_Sleuth

Random thought occurred to me: will the yam have to do one of those treadmill stress tests during his upcoming physical? There is no way he’ll be able to get past more than the first minute of it.

There’s no way the treadmill won’t end up crushed into pieces.

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darthstar  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:40:44pm

Had to load this on my phone so i could listen to it…

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electrotek  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:42:35pm

Other than Barnes & Noble, anywhere else I can pick up the book locally? Anyone know of indie book stores in Dallas where I can pick up the book and thereby help the indie businesses in the process?

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Skip Intro  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:43:37pm

re: #59 HappyWarrior

Then your lawsuit is bs. You don’t get to sue because a book doesn’t portray you in the best light.

From 2016,

Donald Trump’s outright contempt for journalists and press freedom is well known—but in the past month he has outdone himself.

In the span of a long weekend in mid-September, Trump threatened to sue The New York Times, his staff had a Vice reporter arrested outside a campaign event, and he blamed the New York terrorist bombings on “freedom of the press.”

This weekend, Trump struck again. After the Times’ huge scoop detailing how he took an almost billion-dollar loss on his 1995 taxes, Trump’s lawyer threatened “prompt initiation of appropriate legal action” against the Times once more. By my count, it is at least the 11th time Trump has threatened to sue a news organization or journalist during his campaign for president.

I had intended to quantify how many journalists or news commentators Trump has threatened to sue over his lifetime, but that quickly turned into a fool’s errand. A simple Google search of “Trump threatens to sue” will return an overwhelming number of stories. In the past decade alone, he’s sued a former Times journalist who wrote a book about him that he later admitted he didn’t even read; he’s threatened to sue former View host Rosie O’Donnell for allegations that have been shown over and over again during this campaign to be correct; he’s sued HBO’s Bill Maher over a joke bet that involved proving he was not, in fact, born an orangutan.

He threatened to sue a journalist at the Village Voice as far back as 1979, and he actually sued a newspaper as early as 1984: the Chicago Tribune, for calling building plans of his “aesthetically lousy.” My personal favorite was his threat to sue The Onion, the popular satirical news site.

cjr.org

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cat-tikvah  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:45:30pm

re: #20 allegro

You’d have to include someone to read it to him.

This would be akin to being the official taster for the king or someone willing to sign up for a round of “kill the messenger”.

How about Mitch McConnell?

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:46:03pm

re: #66 electrotek

Half Price Books?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:46:12pm

re: #67 Skip Intro

From 2016,

cjr.org

He’s such a child isn’t he?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:46:50pm

re: #63 BeachDem

Amazon-

Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #1 Paid in Kindle Store
Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #1 in Books
Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #1 in Books

I ordered the kindle version just now

I may get it too. I resolved to read more this year.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:47:27pm

I’m getting the impression that you folks don’t even notice those buttons underneath each tweet that say “Images” and “Video.” If you’re having trouble playing a video in a tweet, click the “Video” button and it will play in a popup dialog. Same with images - click that button and you’ll see the full-sized image and if there’s more than one you can flip through them with the arrow keys.

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electrotek  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:47:49pm

re: #69 Flying Squirrel Girl

Half Price Books?

They carry new books? I always thought they carry second-hand books honestly. I’ve only bought second-hand back issues of magazines from there before, but that’s it.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:47:56pm
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bill d. (b.d.)  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:48:34pm

re: #63 BeachDem

Amazon-

Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #1 Paid in Kindle Store
Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #1 in Books
Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #1 in Books

I ordered the kindle version just now

Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #1 in Schadenfreude

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:48:58pm

re: #73 electrotek

New and used!

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Skip Intro  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:48:58pm
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bill d. (b.d.)  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:49:06pm

re: #73 electrotek

They carry new books? I always thought they carry second-hand books honestly. I’ve only bought second-hand back issues of magazines from there before, but that’s it.

They have new books too

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Belafon  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:50:02pm

re: #66 electrotek

Other than Barnes & Noble, anywhere else I can pick up the book locally? Anyone know of indie book stores in Dallas where I can pick up the book and thereby help the indie businesses in the process?

I googled Dallas bookstores and found a few that I might have to go visit. There’s one, Deep Vellum Books, described this way in a review:

The store is tiny yet has a nice offering of books, coffee and a manager who looks like a fallen angel. Pretty much what you would expect in deep ellum. The old fashioned look contracts with the hip, tattooed, pierced people who run the place.

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electrotek  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:50:42pm

re: #79 Belafon

I googled Dallas bookstores and found a few that I might have to go visit. There’s one, Deep Vellum Books, described this way in a review:

I’ll have to check that out. I tend to avoid bookstores in Highland Park and University Park for obvious reasons.

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Belafon  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:50:49pm

re: #73 electrotek

They carry new books? I always thought they carry second-hand books honestly. I’ve only bought second-hand back issues of magazines from there before, but that’s it.

They have been carrying some new books, generally at about 20% off. I don’t know if this is their kind of book though to sell new.

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Skip Intro  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:51:32pm

Florida Republican.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:52:16pm

re: #82 Skip Intro

Florida Republican.

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Good even if it is only because it’s his home.

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Skip Intro  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:54:00pm

re: #83 HappyWarrior

Hey, let’s put a dozen or so in front of Mar-a-grifto and see what happens.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:56:54pm

re: #38 Ace-o-aces

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Every god damn time.

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Skip Intro  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:57:45pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 4, 2018 • 1:58:52pm

re: #58 Bubblehead II

Well this sucks.

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Well that will provide GRRM time to complete his novel before the final season // HahahahahahahaHahahahahahahaHahahahahahaha!! Like we are ever going to see it.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 4, 2018 • 2:00:27pm

re: #87 Hecuba’s daughter

Well that will provide GRRM time to complete his novel before the final season // HahahahahahahaHahahahahahahaHahahahahahaha!! Like we are ever going to see it.

Writers are no more immune to the world’s bullshit than anyone else. Being creative can be a challenge even when the world is not a giant dumpster fire.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 4, 2018 • 2:00:57pm

Teehee! Already a #1 best seller.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 4, 2018 • 2:02:18pm

re: #63 BeachDem

Amazon-

Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #1 Paid in Kindle Store
Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #1 in Books
Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #1 in Books

I ordered the kindle version just now

LOL so did I.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 4, 2018 • 2:04:41pm

re: #72 Charles Johnson

I’m getting the impression that you folks don’t even notice those buttons underneath each tweet that say “Images” and “Video.” If you’re having trouble playing a video in a tweet, click the “Video” button and it will play in a popup dialog. Same with images - click that button and you’ll see the full-sized image and if there’s more than one you can flip through them with the arrow keys.

Thank you as always Charles…..

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lawhawk  Jan 4, 2018 • 2:04:46pm

re: #82 Skip Intro

Florida Republican.

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Because even members of Congress in these states know that when those oil rigs blow or leak oil/gas, it fucks with their tourism for years down the road. And tourism means more jobs than the energy biz.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 4, 2018 • 2:05:32pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 4, 2018 • 2:06:45pm

re: #84 Skip Intro

Had the same thought. lol

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 4, 2018 • 2:08:07pm

For those who question Donald’s devotion to our system of government: journalists who read the book confirmed that not only did he know nothing about the Constitution, but that someone trying to explain it to him gave up at the 4th Amendment because he has the concentration of a gnat and had no interest in learning anything more.

Reminds me a little of the scene in the HBO movie “Game Change” when the McCain team brought in experts to teach Sarah Palin about foreign policy. Her ignorance of basic history was astounding, but at least (in the movie anyway), she was enthralled by the information and took notes. Trump has no interest in learning anything from someone else and probably, thanks to dementia, he is incapable of doing so.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 4, 2018 • 2:09:06pm

re: #41 KerFuFFler

Yeah, Tillerson also called him an effing moron. And all the handlers preparing his twice daily ego boosting summaries have to figure what an emotionally needy idiot he is.

And to this day has not denied saying it.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 4, 2018 • 2:10:04pm

re: #96 Ace Rothstein

And to this day has not denied saying it.

“Did you call the President a moron?”

“Look, we’ve got more pressing issues to deal with….”

lol

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S'latch  Jan 4, 2018 • 2:11:19pm

re: #97 Barefoot Grin

“Did you call the President a moron?”

“Look, we’ve got more pressing issues to deal with….”

lol

Actually, it is the most pressing issue we have to deal with. So, no, Mr. Tillerson.

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electrotek  Jan 4, 2018 • 2:11:45pm

Cue triggered wingnuts…

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2018 • 2:11:48pm

re: #92 lawhawk

Because even members of Congress in these states know that when those oil rigs blow or leak oil/gas, it fucks with their tourism for years down the road. And tourism means more jobs than the energy biz.

Yep. It’s regretable that there’s not a desire to protect the oceans as a whole though. I can’t imagine not having the beach to go to. And the oceans are so important to our lives.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 4, 2018 • 2:12:21pm
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Interesting Times  Jan 4, 2018 • 2:12:36pm

Finally:

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jan 4, 2018 • 2:13:53pm

re: #72 Charles Johnson

I’m getting the impression that you folks don’t even notice those buttons underneath each tweet that say “Images” and “Video.” If you’re having trouble playing a video in a tweet, click the “Video” button and it will play in a popup dialog. Same with images - click that button and you’ll see the full-sized image and if there’s more than one you can flip through them with the arrow keys.

Oh, I noticed the “Video” button, but I assumed it would do something like retweet it, or save it. Silly me.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 4, 2018 • 2:14:25pm

re: #93 goddamnedfrank

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 4, 2018 • 2:15:27pm

re: #97 Barefoot Grin

“I’m not going to deal with petty stuff like that.”

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BeachDem  Jan 4, 2018 • 2:15:35pm

re: #92 lawhawk

Because even members of Congress in these states know that when those oil rigs blow or leak oil/gas, it fucks with their tourism for years down the road. And tourism means more jobs than the energy biz.

Except, of course, for Steve Scalise, who said: “With this program, my constituents … whose jobs depend on the energy industry can rest easy knowing that oil and gas development is a priority for this administration”

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William Lewis  Jan 4, 2018 • 2:16:45pm

re: #99 electrotek

Cue triggered wingnuts…

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Available on Amazon too. May suggest that buying a copy of this to go along with it?

Just in case …

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 4, 2018 • 2:18:06pm

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 4, 2018 • 2:18:39pm

re: #102 Interesting Times

Finally:

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Baby steps. Next would be to venture into so-called “Trump Country” and interview those of us who supported Clinton (or even Johnson) over the Tang Dynasty.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2018 • 2:19:28pm

re: #102 Interesting Times

Finally:

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It’s nice to see those. And you know what, this town resembles what America actually looks like than any of those Trump towns they profile.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 4, 2018 • 2:20:07pm

re: #104 Stanley Sea

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 4, 2018 • 2:20:22pm

re: #105 Ace Rothstein

“I’m not going to deal with petty stuff like that.”

James Fallows made the point recently that this is the same “open secret” problem that surrounded and enabled serial sexual harassers like Weinstein and O’Reilly: “I’m not going to deal with petty stuff like that” when it is—as S’latch pointed — THE ISSUE.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2018 • 2:20:44pm

re: #109 Anymouse 🌹

Baby steps. Next would be to venture into so-called “Trump Country” and interview those of us who supported Clinton (or even Johnson) over the Tang Dynasty.

I’d like to see that too. And I too wonder if I’d qualify in that. Although I’m in a blue state/blue county, I’m a red state senate/delegate district and my precinct went for Gillespie and the other assholes this fall.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 4, 2018 • 2:21:41pm

re: #111 goddamnedfrank

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 4, 2018 • 2:21:47pm

re: #110 HappyWarrior

It’s nice to see those. And you know what, this town resembles what America actually looks like than any of those Trump towns they profile.

All US towns “look like America,” including the overwhelmingly Trump-supporting town I live in.

The problem with all these “I love Trump” stories is they’re trying to (or inadvertently) make Trump voters the only “real Americans” including those of us in these towns who never supported Trump at all.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2018 • 2:23:41pm

re: #115 Anymouse 🌹

All US towns “look like America,” including the overwhelmingly Trump-supporting town I live in.

The problem with all these “I love Trump” stories is they’re trying to (or inadvertently) make Trump voters the only “real Americans” including those of us in these towns who never supported Trump at all.

True, true. You’re right. I phrased that badly. I should have said they’re demographically more reflective of what the country is. And yes you’re absolutely right about the problem with those stories but the other problem as you already get at is there’s plenty of people in those towns who never supported Trump.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 4, 2018 • 2:24:02pm

re: #113 HappyWarrior

I’d like to see that too. And I too wonder if I’d qualify in that. Although I’m in a blue state/blue county, I’m a red state senate/delegate district and my precinct went for Gillespie and the other assholes this fall.

If getting the “pulse of the voters” was really the issue here, the press would simply take a cross-section of voters. All we’re getting is an endless stream of Trump voters (some of whom are disappointed, the majority of whom are still supporters).

It’s like the rest of us don’t exist, no matter where we live.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 4, 2018 • 2:24:33pm

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nines09  Jan 4, 2018 • 2:25:33pm

re: #102 Interesting Times

Finally:

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The regular posters on op-ed on that site are toxic morons. Some pushback has arrived but the stupid is strong. I’ll spare you my wars there.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 4, 2018 • 2:27:12pm

I imagine our host Mr. Johnson can relate to this vis Rage Furby:

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Jan 4, 2018 • 2:27:19pm

re: #13 HappyWarrior

L

I’ve never seen anything by Trump that suggests he believes in a free press.

Anyone willing to take a bet that there was a discussion in the White House where Trump demanded that Steve Bannon and Michael Wolff be arrested and the book’s publisher be shut down?

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 4, 2018 • 2:28:50pm

re: #121 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

That is an even money bet because that is how Trump and Company think.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 4, 2018 • 2:29:16pm

re: #72 Charles Johnson

Well, I’m dumb enough sometimes that I did notice the video button. Just never thought to try it.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 4, 2018 • 2:29:20pm

LOL:

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 4, 2018 • 2:29:23pm
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Old Liberal  Jan 4, 2018 • 2:29:35pm

re: #118 Barefoot Grin

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This is why I don’t socialize with conservatives. They are supporters of racists and Nazis. I don’t hang out with Good Germans.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2018 • 2:30:18pm

re: #121 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

Anyone willing to take a bet that there was a discussion in the White House where Trump demanded that Steve Bannon and Michael Wolff be arrested and the book’s publisher be shut down?

We’ll hear about that in the Spring and SHS will again lie and deny that ever happened despite credible sources saying it did.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2018 • 2:30:46pm

re: #126 Old Liberal

This is why I don’t socialize with conservatives. They are supporters of racists and Nazis. I don’t hang out with Good Germans.

It’s harder and harder for me to separate someone’s ideology from their individuality as people.

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stpaulbear  Jan 4, 2018 • 2:30:55pm

re: #107 William Lewis

Available on Amazon too. May suggest that buying a copy of this to go along with it?

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Just in case …

And this:

amazon.com

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 4, 2018 • 2:32:23pm

re: #126 Old Liberal

This is why I don’t socialize with conservatives. They are supporters of racists and Nazis. I don’t hang out with Good Germans.

I live in a town full of conservatives, including the (former) neo-Nazi woman down the block from me (the tattoos sort of give her away).

I can choose not to socialise at all and just stay in my house, or I can take my new Parks Canada pass and go live in Canadian parks for the next year, or I can try to work back against these issues.

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cat-tikvah  Jan 4, 2018 • 2:33:11pm

re: #109 Anymouse 🌹

I’m in the Philly suburbs and love reading Will Bunch. He writes for the Philadelphia Inquirer - his contact info is listed below the photo. I’d love for you to write him and suggest that! I’m thinking he’d be interested, or maybe know somebody out your way who would.

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meteor  Jan 4, 2018 • 2:36:12pm

re: #11 Big Beautiful Door

Oh yeah! I get paid tomorrow!

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nines09  Jan 4, 2018 • 2:37:17pm

This staggered through my mind today….

Dixie Cups Iko Iko stereo

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teleskiguy  Jan 4, 2018 • 2:39:25pm
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John Carter  Jan 4, 2018 • 2:41:55pm

re: #117 Anymouse 🌹

If getting the “pulse of the voters” was really the issue here, the press would simply take a cross-section of voters. All we’re getting is an endless stream of Trump voters (some of whom are disappointed, the majority of whom are still supporters).

It’s like the rest of us don’t exist, no matter where we live.

I think that is because it is a mystery why they exist at all.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 4, 2018 • 2:41:58pm

re: #12 Stanley Sea

Remarkable piece by James Fallows: “What Wolff is describing is an OPEN SECRET…”

This is the political equivalent of Jerry Hall ignoring Mick Jagger’s dalliances until it comes out that he has just knocked up a Brazilian fashion model

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darthstar  Jan 4, 2018 • 2:42:25pm
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darthstar  Jan 4, 2018 • 2:44:04pm
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Old Liberal  Jan 4, 2018 • 2:44:21pm

re: #128 HappyWarrior

It’s harder and harder for me to separate someone’s ideology from their individuality as people.

When someone’s ideology is that black protesters are bad, Muslims are demons, poor people are lazy and deserving of punishment, that Nazis and White Supremacists have a point, that the rich need more money and Social Security and Medicare are unaffordable, that LGBTQ people are perverts, I find nothing nothing nothing redeeming. I won’t hurt them, I won’t cheat them, I will pull them out of a snow-filled ditch, but I won’t break bread or golf with them. And I tell them why.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 4, 2018 • 2:45:27pm

re: #131 cat-tikvah

I’m in the Philly suburbs and love reading Will Bunch. He writes for the Philadelphia Inquirer - his contact info is listed below the photo. I’d love for you to write him and suggest that! I’m thinking he’d be interested, or maybe know somebody out your way who would.

Done.

E-mail just sent:

Mr. Bunch,

It is refreshing to see an article that is not either a fawning review of Donald Trump voters who are still Donald Trump fans, or Donald Trump voters who are concerned about Donald Trump’s actions, or Donald Trump voters who are showing regrets for their votes for Donald Trump.

It is a start.

One thing that hasn’t happened, and I don’t expect will, is venturing into so-called Trump Country to interview those who never supported Donald Trump. As I refer to myself: A pale blue dot in a very red US House district.

Eight whole people in my township in the Nebraska Panhandle voted for Hillary Clinton, three for Gary Johnson, two for Jill Stein. The rest of the township went (as did the state) overwhelmingly for Donald Trump.

Local newspapers give fawning coverage, and FOX News Channel is on in virtually every business. It’s almost as if we don’t exist here, or are somehow “un-American” for voting for the candidate that won the popular vote (even though she didn’t in my state).

I look forward to the day when a reporter comes deep into “Trump Country” to find those of us left behind. I assure you we do exist.

[contact information deleted here but provided to Mr. Bunch]

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 4, 2018 • 2:45:56pm
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teleskiguy  Jan 4, 2018 • 2:46:13pm
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darthstar  Jan 4, 2018 • 2:46:43pm

JUMO - Junior Moscow Operative. - I was wondering what the fuck Bannon was talking about.

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nines09  Jan 4, 2018 • 2:47:31pm

You knew it existed.

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William Lewis  Jan 4, 2018 • 2:48:35pm

To those of you with an interest in photography, I posted a link to a nice essay over in pages. “Photography Never Died” and its a nice bit of writing. Hope you enjoy it.

Photography Never Died

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darthstar  Jan 4, 2018 • 2:52:07pm

Retweeted by Trump’s feed…which means Trump saw this.

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teleskiguy  Jan 4, 2018 • 2:52:24pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2018 • 2:52:59pm

re: #134 teleskiguy

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Watch Ben Shapiro squeal about how Patton Oswalt is a liberal elite who shouldn’t question Sessions.

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Skip Intro  Jan 4, 2018 • 2:53:37pm

re: #94 GlutenFreeJesus

Had the same thought. lol

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Trump should demand it. He needs to set an example for the rest of us. It would be the right thing to do.

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darthstar  Jan 4, 2018 • 2:53:53pm
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Old Liberal  Jan 4, 2018 • 2:54:08pm

Let me list a few of the most notable “conservatives” so we see what we are talking about.

Joe McCarthy
Richard Nixon
Spiro Agnew
Ronald Reagan
Strom Thurmond
Jesse Helms
George W. Bush
Richard Cheney
Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III
Rafael Cruz
Daryl Issa
Michael Pence
John McCain
Sarah Palin
Roy Moore
Pat Robertson
Peter Thiel
David Koch
and all the rest

The greatest myth circulating is the myth of the “reasonable Conservative”.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 4, 2018 • 2:54:51pm

re: #146 darthstar

It is great to see 3 former Presidents smile and get along with each other.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 4, 2018 • 2:55:45pm

re: #146 darthstar

Retweeted by Trump’s feed…which means Trump saw this.

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Gary Player.

Of course he saw that.

They all look great, not near death at all.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2018 • 2:56:37pm

re: #151 Old Liberal

Let me list a few of the most notable “conservatives” so we see what we are talking about.

Joe McCarthy
Richard Nixon
Spiro Agnew
Ronald Reagan
Strom Thurmond
Jesse Helms
George W. Bush
Richard Cheney
Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III
Rafael Cruz
Daryl Issa
Michael Pence
John McCain
Sarah Palin
Roy Moore
Pat Robertson
Peter Thiel
David Koch
and all the rest

The greatest myth circulating is the myth of the “reasonable Conservative”.

I like your style Hatch.

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Jay C  Jan 4, 2018 • 2:56:41pm

re: #146 darthstar

Retweeted by Trump’s feed…which means Trump saw this.

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Dubya’s not looking too good there, but at least they all seem to be having a good time. I wonder if they got Gary Player to laugh by making a joke of Trump’s golf game…..?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2018 • 2:57:51pm

re: #153 Stanley Sea

Gary Player.

Of course he saw that.

They all look great, not near death at all.

Bill and Dubs are actually a little older than Trump and have already been stressed by the WH and they look more youthful and healthy. W to his credit always did take pretty good care of himself. Bill had his health scare but he looks good. They all look like they have dignity about them. Something Orange Man doesn’t have.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 4, 2018 • 2:59:38pm

re: #142 teleskiguy

That is a good article. Unfortunately, libertarian capitalists have invested huge amounts of money to either manufacture dissent, operate a propaganda network of television and radio, or simply bully their way to power.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 4, 2018 • 3:00:09pm

re: #141 Backwoods_Sleuth

This month HBO is featuring Deepwater Horizon, the mark Wahlberg movie. Don’t know why that came to mind.

(It’s surprisingly good, even stopping the narrative to show subtitles explaining drilling arcana when needed.)

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 4, 2018 • 3:00:51pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 4, 2018 • 3:01:28pm
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Jenner7  Jan 4, 2018 • 3:01:35pm
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darthstar  Jan 4, 2018 • 3:04:11pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 4, 2018 • 3:04:13pm

re: #160 Backwoods_Sleuth

No. He’s too embarrassed to appear in public because of his eye infection.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 4, 2018 • 3:04:39pm

re: #161 Jenner7

I wonder if he’s been talking with Mr. Mueller. Mr. Preibus is smart enough to keep his mouth shut in the press if he thinks he might be in serious trouble.

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teleskiguy  Jan 4, 2018 • 3:04:45pm
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darthstar  Jan 4, 2018 • 3:05:30pm

re: #162 darthstar

Check out those control rooms…they’re things of beauty.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 4, 2018 • 3:05:42pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2018 • 3:07:30pm

re: #165 teleskiguy

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Can”t imagine losing a brother.

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darthstar  Jan 4, 2018 • 3:09:19pm
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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 4, 2018 • 3:12:42pm

re: #119 nines09

It takes me forever to catch up on the music posts in old threads, so I couldn’t respond at the time, but the SRV strat-murder video - holy cow! At least twice I was literally clutching my head in horror (closer to the end where he got really brutal.)
And thanks for posting that other Dwight Yoakam.
Apropos, I think, whenever I see a guitar get abused:

john hiatt - perfectly good guitar

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Stanley Sea  Jan 4, 2018 • 3:13:14pm

re: #160 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The editing, the right to left camera, the bad eye.

Being introduced as a special guest

It was sooooooo bizarre

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 4, 2018 • 3:15:26pm

LOL Juanita Jean’s Meme of the Day: Which one would you drop on North Korea to end the conflict?

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Decatur Deb  Jan 4, 2018 • 3:16:16pm

Ol’ Roy just can’t catch a break: His youngest victim is suing, and not for money.

washingtonpost.com

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ObserverArt  Jan 4, 2018 • 3:16:49pm

re: #171 Stanley Sea

The editing, the right to left camera, the bad eye.

Being introduced as a special guest

It was sooooooo bizarre

Just another reality TV star production. He is in control of the pictures.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 4, 2018 • 3:19:13pm

re: #174 ObserverArt

Yup. Remember when he questioned Hillary’s health as she still managed to campaign with pneumonia?

He won’t even appear in front of the press with an eye infection.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 4, 2018 • 3:19:30pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 4, 2018 • 3:21:49pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 4, 2018 • 3:23:17pm
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darthstar  Jan 4, 2018 • 3:24:40pm

re: #177 Backwoods_Sleuth

That’s under frozen water.

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ObserverArt  Jan 4, 2018 • 3:25:17pm

re: #177 Backwoods_Sleuth

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What a mess that is. And now it gets colder and it all freezes over even more. That’s a problem that going to take some time to get past.

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meteor  Jan 4, 2018 • 3:25:18pm

re: #168 HappyWarrior

I did, years ago. Every day, I think about the last time I saw him.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 4, 2018 • 3:27:28pm

re: #169 darthstar

I’ve been behind a few analog control boards. Wild to say the least.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 4, 2018 • 3:27:31pm

re: #179 darthstar

That’s under frozen water.

They know a thing or two, because they’ve seen a thing or two.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 4, 2018 • 3:28:45pm

re: #168 HappyWarrior

Can”t imagine losing a brother.

Done it twice. It is really, really shitty.

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BeachDem  Jan 4, 2018 • 3:28:55pm

re: #180 ObserverArt

What a mess that is. And now it gets colder and it all freezes over even more. That’s a problem that going to take some time to get past.

And down the coast at Scituate:

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 4, 2018 • 3:29:52pm

re: #182 Dave In Austin

I’ve been behind a few analog control boards. Wild to say the least.

Most of the bench equipment I used in the Navy was either analogue or rather primitive computer equipment by today’s standards (punched tape to feed a PDP-8 with a drum drive of 1M capacity, or cassette tapes feeding trinary computers).

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darthstar  Jan 4, 2018 • 3:29:57pm

re: #183 Decatur Deb

They know a thing or two, because they’ve seen a thing or two.

No fucking shit. That’s gotta suck. Rained here last night…and we had an earthquake, but at least our ocean stays above 52 degrees and the air is bumping 60.

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makeitstop  Jan 4, 2018 • 3:30:42pm

re: #143 darthstar

JUMO - Junior Moscow Operative. - I was wondering what the fuck Bannon was talking about.

I thought it was a mangling of the New York-ish term ‘jamoke.’

He didn’t know how to say it, Wolff didn’t know how to spell it, and here we are.

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ObserverArt  Jan 4, 2018 • 3:30:54pm

re: #185 BeachDem

And down the coast at Scituate:

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It’s a winter hurricane. I feel for all those people.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 4, 2018 • 3:32:52pm

re: #189 ObserverArt

I posted this earlier today after seeing something that DD posted.
littlegreenfootballs.com

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darthstar  Jan 4, 2018 • 3:32:58pm

Teleskiguy will back me up on this I suspece. I still don’t get why it fucking snows in flat places. Snow is wasted on the flat landers…ooh…we’ll play hockey…yeah…for an hour.

Snow belongs on mountains in quantities > 3 feet, then regular deposits of 10-17” ever two or three days until it gets warm…then it should stop and let melt-freeze cycles do their magic and make beautiful creamy spring corn.

There. That is how the weather is supposed to behave.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jan 4, 2018 • 3:34:11pm

re: #191 darthstar

Teleskiguy will back me up on this I suspece. I still don’t get why it fucking snows in flat places. Snow is wasted on the flat landers…ooh…we’ll play hockey…yeah…for an hour.

Snow belongs on mountains in quantities > 3 feet, then regular deposits of 10-17” ever two or three days until it gets warm…then it should stop and let melt-freeze cycles do their magic and make beautiful creamy spring corn.

There. That is how the weather is supposed to behave.

Sadly, we get climate instead.

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darthstar  Jan 4, 2018 • 3:34:37pm

re: #188 makeitstop

I thought it was a mangling of the New York-ish term ‘jamoke.’

He didn’t know how to say it, Wolff didn’t know how to spell it, and here we are.

That could be it too. The Internet isn’t exactly always accurate on these things.

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teleskiguy  Jan 4, 2018 • 3:36:28pm

re: #191 darthstar

The ski area I work at has a 12 inch base with one short run open.

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makeitstop  Jan 4, 2018 • 3:37:11pm

re: #163 GlutenFreeJesus

No. He’s too embarrassed to appear in public because of his eye infection.

Is this eye infection thing for real? I’ve been seeing it all day. I thought Trump was just being squinty.

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William Lewis  Jan 4, 2018 • 3:37:35pm

re: #186 Anymouse 🌹

Most of the bench equipment I used in the Navy was either analogue or rather primitive computer equipment by today’s standards (punched tape to feed a PDP-8 with a drum drive of 1M capacity, or cassette tapes feeding trinary computers).

Heh. I know some guys who get all nostalgic for the PDP-8. I can’t get that way about anything more primitive than a PDP-1/45 - I need semi-conductor ram not core, floating point math is very handy & it can *just* run Unix Version 7.

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bratwurst  Jan 4, 2018 • 3:37:45pm
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ObserverArt  Jan 4, 2018 • 3:37:52pm

re: #190 PhillyPretzel

I posted this earlier today after seeing something that DD posted.
littlegreenfootballs.com

Yeah, I saw that. I mentioned that too in a post about Al Roker on The Today Show saying the pressure has to drop 24 millibars for this storm to be considered the “bomb cyclone” they predicted. It dropped 44 millibars. So, it was worse than expected.

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darthstar  Jan 4, 2018 • 3:38:28pm

re: #194 teleskiguy

The ski area I work at has a 12 inch base with one short run open.

I’ve got seven patrol candidates to start training this weekend, and the white ribbon of death is about all we have as well.

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Bubblehead II  Jan 4, 2018 • 3:38:38pm

For your listening pleasure

The Bob Cesca Show (FREE!) 1/4/18

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darthstar  Jan 4, 2018 • 3:39:31pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 4, 2018 • 3:40:56pm

re: #189 ObserverArt

It’s a winter hurricane. I feel for all those people.

They got the horrible weather we got, cranked up to eleventy, then put out over the ocean where relatively warm water turns a severe Plains storm into a freakin’ monster storm. There were blizzard warnings up in Virginia Beach.

Dollars to doughnuts the GOP stonewalls on disaster relief for all the blue states hit by this unless they get some sort of “offset” (read, take it out of social programmes).

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 4, 2018 • 3:41:11pm

re: #126 Old Liberal

This is why I don’t socialize with conservatives. They are supporters of racists and Nazis. I don’t hang out with Good Germans.

It’s a tough call for me. A RW friend told me that he keeps the peace within the family by having the rule that no politics are discussed at family gatherings. He and I avoid the topic most of the time to maintain our friendship. Once in awhile I interject something related to economics, health policies or the environment but we primarily limit our discussion to less controversial topics, such as how large corporations care about only the wealthy and shareholders, and would sell the rest of us out. I know that this seems like a cop-out but we have been friends for over 20 years and he is happy not promoting his views to me.

For those who are more vocal about their issues, I usually respond in kind.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 4, 2018 • 3:41:13pm

re: #168 HappyWarrior

Can”t imagine losing a brother.

I only have one brother and no other siblings. When he goes it’ll rip my heart out.

205
darthstar  Jan 4, 2018 • 3:41:43pm

re: #201 darthstar

Now why would Ivanka follow her?

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 4, 2018 • 3:43:17pm

re: #196 William Lewis

Heh. I know some guys who get all nostalgic for the PDP-8. I can’t get that way about anything more primitive than a PDP-1/45 - I need semi-conductor ram not core, floating point math is very handy & it can *just* run Unix Version 7.

My wife used to have a PDP-8 and a PDP-11 when we lived in Oklahoma (since she worked in the past for Digital). They both functioned fine (though I don’t remember the bootstrap sequence for them any more, I’ll bet she still does).

It’s amazing how much you can sell those for.

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ObserverArt  Jan 4, 2018 • 3:44:42pm

re: #191 darthstar

Teleskiguy will back me up on this I suspece. I still don’t get why it fucking snows in flat places. Snow is wasted on the flat landers…ooh…we’ll play hockey…yeah…for an hour.

Snow belongs on mountains in quantities > 3 feet, then regular deposits of 10-17” ever two or three days until it gets warm…then it should stop and let melt-freeze cycles do their magic and make beautiful creamy spring corn.

There. That is how the weather is supposed to behave.

Pffft.

The Great Lakes area is The Great Lakes area for a reason. And lakes end up in low flat lands. We is what we is…and that is why we get snow. And rain.

(And no wildfires)

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 4, 2018 • 3:45:12pm

re: #204 Eclectic Cyborg

I only have one brother and no other siblings. When he goes it’ll rip my heart out.

Same with my one sister. In my immediate family there is only her, my son, and my mother.

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teleskiguy  Jan 4, 2018 • 3:45:33pm
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Stanley Sea  Jan 4, 2018 • 3:45:41pm

re: #185 BeachDem

And down the coast at Scituate:

[Embedded content]

Your fam OK?

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makeitstop  Jan 4, 2018 • 3:46:33pm

re: #205 darthstar

Now why would Ivanka follow her?

Maybe Ivanka’s been tasked with upkeeping ‘the list’ now that Omarosa has been dragged off the grounds.
/

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William Lewis  Jan 4, 2018 • 3:47:51pm

re: #206 Anymouse 🌹

My wife used to have a PDP-8 and a PDP-11 when we lived in Oklahoma (since she worked in the past for Digital). They both functioned fine (though I don’t remember the bootstrap sequence for them any more, I’ll bet she still does).

It’s amazing how much you can sell those for.

I know. I get jonesing for a 11/93 Q-bus model every so often. A quick look a E-Prey cures me of that quickly O_O

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makeitstop  Jan 4, 2018 • 3:52:23pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 4, 2018 • 3:54:25pm

One of my wife’s favourite computer filk songs is Frank Hayes’s song from the album Don’t Ask, called “The S-100 Bus.”

Frank Hayes Don’t Ask 04 - S-100

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BeachDem  Jan 4, 2018 • 3:54:55pm

re: #210 Stanley Sea

Your fam OK?

Yeah—they all live inland. (OK, of course, is a relative term when describing my family!)

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Old Liberal  Jan 4, 2018 • 3:56:07pm

re: #203 Hecuba’s daughter

It’s a tough call for me. A RW friend told me that he keeps the peace within the family by having the rule that no politics are discussed at family gatherings. He and I avoid the topic most of the time to maintain our friendship. Once in awhile I interject something related to economics, health policies or the environment but we primarily limit our discussion to less controversial topics, such as how large corporations care about only the wealthy and shareholders, and would sell the rest of us out. I know that this seems like a cop-out but we have been friends for over 20 years and he is happy not promoting his views to me.

For those who are more vocal about their issues, I usually respond in kind.

We can only do what we can do. People have their own situations. I don’t put up any big signs for fear that a bullet would come through my window some night. In the old days, most folks had the same goals: quality schools, taking care of those in need, being decent, following the golden rule, caring for the environment, being good sportspeople, being a good winner, good loser, good neighbor. We argued about the best strategy to get there. Now, conservatives want to destroy public education, denigrate higher education, let poor people suffer, harass and even kill people with darker skin. They think Christians are persecuted, whites are superior, cops should be worshipped, and the answer to foreign relations is war war war. Virtually all of their information is demonstrably false, and they don’t care. With my multi-racial family, I just can’t normalize it. I often think of the strength of black people who put up with so much more every damn day without lashing out. That is some strength.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 4, 2018 • 3:56:53pm

#SAD

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teleskiguy  Jan 4, 2018 • 3:57:13pm

The skiing on the east coast is going to be all time this weekend, like, tell your grandkids how good it was good.

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Skip Intro  Jan 4, 2018 • 3:57:59pm

Comcast fired 500 despite claiming tax cut would create thousands of jobs

As Comcast pushed for tax cut, fired employees had to sign NDAs to get severance.

arstechnica.com

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Jan 4, 2018 • 3:58:21pm

re: #217 Stanley Sea

#SAD

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It’s not dead. It’s pining for the fjords.

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 4, 2018 • 3:58:51pm

Hot take:

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William Lewis  Jan 4, 2018 • 3:59:45pm

re: #214 Anymouse 🌹

Computer filk!

julia ecklar - the eternal flame

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teleskiguy  Jan 4, 2018 • 4:01:00pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 4, 2018 • 4:01:06pm

re: #216 Old Liberal

I had to think two or three times before I placed a Sander sign out in the yard and sticker on my car, and again when I replaced them with a Clinton sign and sticker.

The county is small enough in population everyone pretty much knows me so it was not any trouble, but I can imagine what would happen if I parked my car overnight in some other town where they don’t know me.

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nines09  Jan 4, 2018 • 4:03:41pm

re: #170 Jebediah, RBG

Yeah. Ritchie Blackmore would stage the destruction of cheaper guitars. Have empty speaker cabs they would torch. Saw a video where he pushed two 4X12 cabs off stage…Nope. Ain’t happening if they are real… Just staying in the realm of guitarists, I never got it. But from a showman, I got the money, I can buy another, “Bobby can you light your hair on fire”….Yeah. I get it. Pete Townsend had to do something when Keith Moon blew up the world. Hendrix made a statement. SRV, well I think he actually went places when he played. He certainly was high enough in the earlier days…They say some “channel” and do what some would call mystic..IMHO, SRV would do that. He left that stage. He was somewhere else. I would never ever attempt to play VooDoo Chile….Nope. I can do a reasonable version, but…no. To me scared ground.
This is magic. SRV is not there. Same concert.

Stevie Ray Vaughan - Voodoo Child (Slight Return) (from Live at the El Mocambo)

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 4, 2018 • 4:08:41pm

re: #225 nines09

Yeah. Ritchie Blackmore would stage the destruction of cheaper guitars. Have empty speaker cabs they would torch. Saw a video where he pushed two 4X12 cabs off stage…Nope. Ain’t happening if they are real… Just staying in the realm of guitarists, I never got it. But from a showman, I got the money, I can buy another, “Bobby can you light your hair on fire”….Yeah. I get it. Pete Townsend had to do something when Keith Moon blew up the world. Hendrix made a statement. SRV, well I think he actually went places when he played. He certainly was high enough in the earlier days…They say some “channel” and do what some would call mystic..IMHO, SRV would do that. He left that stage. He was somewhere else. I would never ever attempt to play VooDoo Chile….Nope. I can do a reasonable version, but…no. To me scared ground.
This is magic. SRV is not there. Same concert.

[Embedded content]

My recollection about The Who was that Pete accidentally broke his guitar swinging it over his head one night in a club with a low ceiling and the news got out. Then he felt pressured to keep doing it, so he had to buy cheap guitars for the last song, then Keith wanted to get in on the act and blew up everyone’s ear drums.

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 4, 2018 • 4:09:22pm
228
fern01  Jan 4, 2018 • 4:09:22pm

re: #12 Stanley Sea

I’m late to the party - but this is a very good read

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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 4, 2018 • 4:09:47pm

re: #225 nines09

Yeah, he kind of looked like he was really somewhere else… I too can kind of understand the showmanship aspect, but I cringe at any guitar getting bashed, even when it is a super cheapo on some dumb TV show. It’s a guitar, Dog-dammit! It has a purpose, and getting bashed to pieces aint it.
Looking forward to this voodoo child video…

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 4, 2018 • 4:10:32pm

re: #219 Skip Intro

I assume we’re going to see a lot of firings by large companies. They have no incentive to spend their tax cuts on employees versus upping dividends to stock holders and increasing CEO pay/bonuses.

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nines09  Jan 4, 2018 • 4:12:19pm

re: #226 Barefoot Grin

That’s what he said..

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Charles Johnson  Jan 4, 2018 • 4:12:48pm
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nines09  Jan 4, 2018 • 4:13:25pm

re: #229 Jebediah, RBG

Good headphones. The entire album is available on youtube. It’s great. I bet half the folks there left speechless.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 4, 2018 • 4:15:29pm

re: #231 nines09

That’s what he said..

I love The Who, but I heard that from a friend who in her fifties still has posters all over her house.

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lawhawk  Jan 4, 2018 • 4:16:11pm

Good news: snow was very light/fluffy and easy to move here in Northern NJ.
Bad news: there was about 5 inches of it.

Good news: snowblower helped clear the snow
Bad news: snowblower died 80% through clearing snow.

So now I’ve got to get a new snowblower… the old electric one crapped out after 7 years. Can’t complain about anything but the timing really. It saved my back and definitely helped through some serious snowstorms.

I know - first world problems…

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makeitstop  Jan 4, 2018 • 4:16:27pm

re: #225 nines09

Yeah. Ritchie Blackmore would stage the destruction of cheaper guitars. Have empty speaker cabs they would torch. Saw a video where he pushed two 4X12 cabs off stage…Nope. Ain’t happening if they are real…

Heh. An old friend of mine used to be his guitar tech. It was his job to set up the real guitars and piece together the ones that Richie would smash.

It actually was a real problem, because the most obvious choices for cheap guitars to smash were Squiers - but the Squiers at the time mostly had plywood bodies and Blackmore couldn’t smash ‘em. They wouldn’t break. So he’s have to find other Strat style bodies, slap Fender necks and loaded pickguards on them and get them so they’d make some type of sound for a couple of minutes before Richie did his smashy-smashy.

My friend also used to do the neck scalloping for Richie’s Strats. Still makes money doing that.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 4, 2018 • 4:18:56pm

re: #221 Ace-o-aces

This is DEFINITELY one of the most punchable faces in all of the galaxy.

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nines09  Jan 4, 2018 • 4:19:05pm

re: #234 Barefoot Grin

I love The Who, but I heard that from a friend who in her fifties still has posters all over her house.

I sat in the original Electric Factory in Philly, front row, higher than a kite, with a few friends when the Who did their Tommy tour. Double album concert, I don’t even remember if they did any other hits. Mesmerized. No antics. Just music and sweat. Incredible.

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fern01  Jan 4, 2018 • 4:20:23pm

re: #44 Charles Johnson

Great democracy - losing your job cause you said mean things about the president*

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nines09  Jan 4, 2018 • 4:21:21pm

re: #236 makeitstop

I was never really a fan of Blackmore. Could you imagine putting up with his shit?

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 4, 2018 • 4:21:45pm

re: #237 Charles Johnson

This is DEFINITELY one of the most punchable faces in all of the galaxy.

Saddest part is, he’s been sucking up to Trump 24/7 for months…still no retweets.
Sorry dude, he’s just not into you.

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makeitstop  Jan 4, 2018 • 4:22:05pm

re: #226 Barefoot Grin

My recollection about The Who was that Pete accidentally broke his guitar swinging it over his head one night in a club with a low ceiling and the news got out. Then he felt pressured to keep doing it, so he had to buy cheap guitars for the last song, then Keith wanted to get in on the act and blew up everyone’s ear drums.

Pete smashed real Gibsons. He could get those SGs for (relatively) cheap and he’d go through a lot of them, but it wasn’t like Blackmore who would get 50 dollar Strat copies to smash.

This guy caught one of Pete’s SGs, way back when. Binky’s a New York legend and has a wild guitar collection. He’s actually go a Grail, a ‘59 Les Paul Burst. He takes it on the subway to his gigs. The guitar’s worth a quarter million. Binky’s a crazy cat.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 4, 2018 • 4:22:18pm

re: #235 lawhawk

Check amazon for a snow blower they might have a lightning deal on one.
amazon.com

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 4, 2018 • 4:22:27pm

re: #238 nines09

I sat in the original Electric Factory in Philly, front row, higher than a kite, with a few friends when the Who did their Tommy tour. Double album concert, I don’t even remember if they did any other hits. Mesmerized. No antics. Just music and sweat. Incredible.

What a dream! My 13 yo is getting into them so we bought him Tommy for Xmas. I used to listen to it non-stop when I was his age (my sister had the double album with the booklet and funky pictures). I’ve been loving it the last couple of weeks!

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 4, 2018 • 4:22:39pm

re: #227 Ace-o-aces

Who is Jacob Wahl?

I would guess he does know what those words mean, but to his intended audience they are simply for a Pavlovian response of “liberals are trying to destroy our country.”

I never found Europe to be a hell hole in any country I was in (Portugal, Spain, France, Italy, England, Scotland, Germany, Poland).

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 4, 2018 • 4:23:10pm

re: #242 makeitstop

Pete smashed real Gibsons. He could get those SGs for (relatively) cheap and he’d go through a lot of them, but it wasn’t like Blackmore who would get 50 dollar Strat copies to smash.

This guy caught one of Pete’s SGs, way back when. Binky’s a New York legend and has a wild guitar collection. He’s actually go a Grail, a ‘59 Les Paul Burst. He takes it on the subway to his gigs. The guitar’s worth a quarter million. Binky’s a crazy cat.

Holy shit.

247
Skip Intro  Jan 4, 2018 • 4:24:22pm

re: #230 Patricia Kayden

I assume we’re going to see a lot of firings by large companies. They have no incentive to spend their tax cuts on employees versus upping dividends to stock holders and increasing CEO pay/bonuses.

When did NDAs become required to receive your severance pay? We’re damn near 1900 era employment practices now.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 4, 2018 • 4:26:21pm

re: #237 Charles Johnson

This is DEFINITELY one of the most punchable faces in all of the galaxy.

I apparently need to update my Wingnut Silhouette Identification Card Deck. I don’t know who he is either.

249
Skip Intro  Jan 4, 2018 • 4:26:48pm

re: #245 Anymouse 🌹

He says he’s a Trumpenomics expert and that only Republicans deserve any credit for the stock market rise.

250
Stanley Sea  Jan 4, 2018 • 4:27:04pm

The fucker’s rich as shit, why did they pay for anything?

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makeitstop  Jan 4, 2018 • 4:27:49pm

re: #240 nines09

I was never really a fan of Blackmore. Could you imagine putting up with his shit?

Not really. But a few friends of mine worked for him in Purple and Rainbow, and they got along with him fine, at least until he didn’t get along with them - which everyone says is an inevitability.

He’s quite an, umm, eccentric dude. Used to come and see my band back in the day and liked it. I think if I knew how to play soccer I might have ended up working with him. Everyone in his band and crew has to know how to play. One of the most brilliant drummers I’ve ever heard got close to playing with Rainbow but lost the gig because he didn’t play soccer, and the gig instead went to a guy named Bobby Rondinelli, who did.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 4, 2018 • 4:28:41pm

re: #249 Skip Intro

He says he’s a Trumpenomics expert and that only Republicans deserve any credit for the stock market rise.

“Trumponomics Expert?” How to violate the Emoluments Clause of the Constitution for fun and profit?

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Old Liberal  Jan 4, 2018 • 4:29:00pm

re: #245 Anymouse 🌹

Who is Jacob Wahl?

I would guess he does know what those words mean, but to his intended audience they are simply for a Pavlovian response of “liberals are trying to destroy our country.”

I never found Europe to be a hell hole in any country I was in (Portugal, Spain, France, Italy, England, Scotland, Germany, Poland).

I was in Greece in early 2016 when it was supposedly a mess. Not a mess. Not close to a mess. They would show all these protests on TV, it only happened in one square and was done for drama. People were mad at oligarchs for damaging the country and getting away with it. Even though there is a social safety net now, all of these countries have had a stewing right wing element that pre-dates WWII and in fact helped the Nazis take over their countries. Ever-present danger and useful to Putin.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 4, 2018 • 4:30:44pm

re: #253 Old Liberal

I left out Greece from my list. I particularly enjoyed port visits to Athens. I also left out the Vatican (ran into a busload tourist group of Southern Baptists there).

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Old Liberal  Jan 4, 2018 • 4:33:19pm

re: #254 Anymouse 🌹

I left out Greece from my list. I particularly enjoyed port visits to Athens. I also left out the Vatican (ran into a busload tourist group of Southern Baptists there).

Were the Baptists there to visit the antichrist?

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 4, 2018 • 4:35:29pm

re: #255 Old Liberal

Were the Baptists there to visit the antichrist?

LOL. I don’t know. I figured that would be me as the atheist.

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fern01  Jan 4, 2018 • 4:36:44pm

re: #101 goddamnedfrank

Violating the law hasn’t stopped trump any time recently - can’t imagine he’ll lose sleep on this one.

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lawhawk  Jan 4, 2018 • 4:37:47pm

re: #243 PhillyPretzel

Thanks… I’ll take a look though it’ll depend on how quickly the next snow is predicted….

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Decatur Deb  Jan 4, 2018 • 4:38:22pm

re: #254 Anymouse 🌹

I left out Greece from my list. I particularly enjoyed port visits to Athens. I also left out the Vatican (ran into a busload tourist group of Southern Baptists there).

When we lived in Israel, our Jewish friend signed up to visit us with an Alabama Baptist tour group. I was able to cut her out of the herd before Immigration at Ben Gurion, and hand her back to the preacher on the way out, after our “custom” week’s tour.

Like all Jews in Alabama, her husband was (of course) a lawyer.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2018 • 4:38:46pm

re: #250 Stanley Sea

The fucker’s rich as shit, why did they pay for anything?

[Embedded content]

Wingnut welfare.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 4, 2018 • 4:38:50pm

re: #245 Anymouse 🌹

Who is Jacob Wahl?

I would guess he does know what those words mean, but to his intended audience they are simply for a Pavlovian response of “liberals are trying to destroy our country.”

I never found Europe to be a hell hole in any country I was in (Portugal, Spain, France, Italy, England, Scotland, Germany, Poland).

He is an ignorant 20 year old “hedge fund” manager. Don’t assume that he knows anything

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William Lewis  Jan 4, 2018 • 4:42:40pm

re: #244 Barefoot Grin

What a dream! My 13 yo is getting into them so we bought him Tommy for Xmas. I used to listen to it non-stop when I was his age (my sister had the double album with the booklet and funky pictures). I’ve been loving it the last couple of weeks!

Who’s Next. Make sure he get’s that one next.

I wore out 3 copies in high school and I still listen to it regularly. The greatest rock n roll album - to me - of all time, just beating out London Calling.

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retired cynic  Jan 4, 2018 • 4:43:37pm

re: #204 Eclectic Cyborg

I only have one brother and no other siblings. When he goes it’ll rip my heart out.

I can assure you that you are right.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 4, 2018 • 5:12:47pm

re: #247 Skip Intro

When did NDAs become required to receive your severance pay? We’re damn near 1900 era employment practices now.

Next up - Pinkerton goons to intimidate anyone who dares complain.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 4, 2018 • 5:18:03pm

re: #227 Ace-o-aces

[Embedded content]

“our countries political system”: egregious possessive case/apostrophe abuse/ignorance, unless Jacob has more than one country.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 4, 2018 • 5:26:44pm

re: #232 Charles Johnson

It’s a bordie!!! (Love the breed, they are so smart!)

Here’s a criminal toboggan-jacking:

Cute Dog Movie - Dog Steals Snow Sled Away From Boy

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TedStriker  Jan 4, 2018 • 6:09:44pm

re: #264 Blind Frog Belly White

Next up - Pinkerton goons to intimidate anyone who dares complain.

Pinkerton’s, as the company that existed during the 19th and early 20th centuries (such as during the company’s role in the infamous Homestead Strike), doesn’t exist anymore; what later became of Pinkerton’s after the company was bought by California Plant Protection in the late 80s was bought yet again by Swedish security company Securitas in the early 2000s (I worked for the company from 1996-2003). The Pinkerton name is now only used for Securitas’ executive protection, consulting, and intelligence division; everything else, including the industrial and government security divisions, have operated under the Securitas banner for at least a decade or more.

Besides, there are other private security companies that are still more than glad to do strikebreaking or other “damp” work; frankly, I’m surprised that Blackwater/Xe/WTFBBQ hasn’t got an industrial security division for that sort of stuff. When I was working for Pinkerton at the former Peterbilt plant here in Nashville and the UAW went out on strike in 1998, PACCAR brought in a “specialist” security outfit specifically to man the picket lines and directly interact with and document the strikers in order to keep us Pinks out of the fray, since we’d have to work with people from both management and labor when the strike was over; we just kept doing our normal building rounds and tracking incoming and outgoing freight and trailer moves to the docks, as we always did, during the strike.

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darthstar  Jan 4, 2018 • 6:18:50pm
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uriel  Jan 4, 2018 • 9:26:29pm

re: #48 Single-handed sailor

[Embedded content]
That’s ok- Hillary would’ve done the same thing.
/s (as if it’s needed)


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Microsoft Reveals First Known Midterm Campaign Hacking Attempts Microsoft detected and helped block hacking attempts against three congressional candidates this year, a company executive said Thursday, marking the first known example of cyber interference in the midterm elections. “Earlier this year, we did discover that a fake ...
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Center for Inquiry Sues CVS for Fraud Over Sale of Homeopathic Fake Medicine The Center for Inquiry has filed a lawsuit in the District of Columbia on behalf of the general public against drug retailer CVS for consumer fraud over its sale and marketing of useless homeopathic medicines. CFI, an organization advancing ...
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The Midnight Hour (Ali Shaheed Muhammad & Adrian Younge): Tiny Desk Concert : NPR This is a jazz fusion style that would have fit very well on any of the now departed "Quiet Storm" stations of the late '70's ( Quiet Storm - Wikipedia ) More: The Midnight Hour (Ali Shaheed Muhammad & ...
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