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FormerDirtDart  Jan 4, 2018 • 8:34:30pm
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Scout  Jan 4, 2018 • 8:34:52pm

Repeating myself from that last thread:

I’ve seen some bits and pieces here and there suggesting that this Michael Wolff fellow isn’t necessarily known for dotting every i and crossing every t, journalism-wise.

So don’t be surprised if some details of this book are found to be wrong.

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Kragar  Jan 4, 2018 • 8:39:43pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 4, 2018 • 8:40:15pm

re: #2 Scout

Repeating myself from that last thread:

I’ve seen some bits and pieces here and there suggesting that this Michael Wolff fellow isn’t necessarily known for dotting every i and crossing every t, journalism-wise.

So don’t be surprised if some details of this book are found to be wrong.

Wolff says he has dozens of hours of recordings to back up every quote in his book.

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allegro  Jan 4, 2018 • 8:41:03pm

Looks like a boil is ready to pop.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 4, 2018 • 8:41:18pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 4, 2018 • 8:42:13pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2018 • 8:42:28pm

re: #6 Charles Johnson

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These guys need to stop being normalized. Cernovich is a sick bastard.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 4, 2018 • 8:43:15pm
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teleskiguy  Jan 4, 2018 • 8:44:17pm

“This was a real life version of Mel Brooks’ ‘The Producers.’ Now in some ways it still is, I mean just look at all the happy nazis.”

I cracked up.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2018 • 8:45:32pm

re: #9 Charles Johnson

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Jim Hoft has evidence that he was a liberal Democrat who supported HRC and Occupy. //

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Scout  Jan 4, 2018 • 8:46:01pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

Wolff says he has dozens of hours of recordings to back up every quote in his book.

Yep. I’m just saying every word is going to be attacked for its accuracy in hopes of discrediting the overall work. And this guy may not have double-checked every single fact.

I’m just saying, expect the RWNJs to use any discrepancy like a cudgel.

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allegro  Jan 4, 2018 • 8:46:49pm

re: #12 Scout

Your concern is noted.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 4, 2018 • 8:47:14pm

re: #9 Charles Johnson

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2018 • 8:52:51pm

re: #14 FormerDirtDart

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And this administration has shown it doesn’t think Leo should focus on this.

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Scout  Jan 4, 2018 • 8:54:36pm

re: #13 allegro

Thanks.

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jaunte  Jan 4, 2018 • 8:57:25pm
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teleskiguy  Jan 4, 2018 • 8:59:46pm

This Stephen Colbert video is pretty awesome.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2018 • 9:04:08pm

re: #17 jaunte

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Ryan is a crook.

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BeachDem  Jan 4, 2018 • 9:04:38pm

re: #3 Kragar

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jaunte  Jan 4, 2018 • 9:06:44pm

3D Chessmaster In Charge.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 4, 2018 • 9:08:08pm

re: #14 FormerDirtDart

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And another.

Read this

We Found The Neo-Nazi Twitter Account Tied To A Virginia Double Homicide

huffingtonpost.com

Extremely chilling. This is the teenager who killed his gf’s parents in VA. They reported him for being a nazi.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2018 • 9:08:19pm

So cold.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 4, 2018 • 9:10:20pm
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Stanley Sea  Jan 4, 2018 • 9:11:07pm

Oh the tangled, stupid, incompetent criminal scenario they weave.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2018 • 9:12:16pm

re: #22 Stanley Sea

And another.

Read this

huffingtonpost.com

Extremely chilling. This is the teenager who killed his gf’s parents in VA. They reported him for being a nazi.

I grew up in the next town over from where the murders happened and our firm’s office is in Reston. Just shocking that it happened here, a very diverse place. We talk about radicalization and Islam but the white supremacist radicalism is something I really worry about considering the administration is indifferent and even has people sympathetic to it.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 4, 2018 • 9:14:21pm

re: #26 HappyWarrior

read the huff po article.

It is amazing. So detailed & chilling.

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Citizen K  Jan 4, 2018 • 9:15:27pm

re: #26 HappyWarrior

But, you know, ‘lone wolfs’. Who knows how those folks get their crazy beliefs, it’s a mystery, right? Just singular actors acting crazy.

Not like those (insert minority here) who are all guilty when one person does something, right?

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jan 4, 2018 • 9:17:19pm

re: #28 Citizen K

I’m pretty sure I’ve seen somebody erudite and clever straight up say that white privilege is the entitlement to be wholly an individual.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 4, 2018 • 9:17:28pm

re: #22 Stanley Sea

And another.

Read this

huffingtonpost.com

Extremely chilling. This is the teenager who killed his gf’s parents in VA. They reported him for being a nazi.

Yeah, heard about that.
Think about it. The train incident occurred in October. I can’t find a bit of reporting on it from that time period.
I guess…

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2018 • 9:21:06pm

re: #27 Stanley Sea

read the huff po article.

It is amazing. So detailed & chilling.

Very much so. Him and his GF aren’t much older than my brother and his GF. I really do worry about today’s young people being suspectable to Nazi propaganda perhaps in way smy generation wasn’t. We had grandfathers or great uncles in my case who fought the Nazis. I never knew most of my grand uncles but I knew growing up that my grandmother’s older brother when he was by the way older than I am now served as a chaplain in the Battle of the Bulge. That made an impression on me even though I wasn’t and am not religious that this man left his parish to volunteer for war.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2018 • 9:22:19pm

re: #30 FormerDirtDart

Yeah, heard about that.
Think about it. The train incident occurred in October. I can’t find a bit of reporting on it from that time period.
I guess…

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I still remember FNC wondering why they couldn’t find a reason to hate Paddock and I jus felt like screaming “Was committing one of the most massacres in American history bad enough for you?”

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majii  Jan 4, 2018 • 9:35:00pm

re: #27 Stanley Sea
re: #26 HappyWarrior

read the huff po article.

It is amazing. So detailed & chilling.

I’m finding it hard to understand how the kid was able to “sneak” into the Fricker home. Things like that didn’t happen in my parents’ home and don’t happen at my home. Since I now live alone, I don’t permit some of the persons I know to enter my home, and I didn’t do it when my daughter lived with me.

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retired cynic  Jan 4, 2018 • 9:39:16pm

re: #33 majii

Wonder what part the daughter played in this? Probably nothing at all, and she will never ever trust herself again.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2018 • 9:40:20pm

re: #33 majii

re: #26 HappyWarrior

read the huff po article.

It is amazing. So detailed & chilling.

I’m finding it hard to understand how the kid was able to “sneak” into the Fricker home. Things like that didn’t happen in my parents’ home and don’t happen at my home. Since I now live alone, I don’t permit some of the persons I know to enter my home, and I didn’t do it when my daughter lived with me.

It really was. As I was telling SS, I know that town very well having literally grown up the next town over. It’s a diverse place full of people of backgrounds from all over the world. Our education was helpful too as we read works by diverse writers. I remember reading Paul Lawrence Dunbar’s We Wear the Mask when I was a Junior in high school and it was powerful and I had read Richard Wright’s Black Boy the year before. We also read works by other authors like Amy Tan and some Hispanic writers too. I know Lorton where this kid was from too since it’s near where my grandparents lived. It’s also diverse. Just disturbs me how this happens.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2018 • 9:45:26pm

I’ve found myself reading the SPLC’s Facebook page. Story there a couple days ago about a young African-American vet who was denied the right to use a bathroom. Called the cops on the owner and the owner shot him dead. He was acquitted of all charges by an all white jury and I guess that’s why I just have to laugh when white conservatives claim they’re persecuted in this society. Bastards have no idea. And meanwhile I think about what PoC especially PoC veterans have gone through. Risking their lives only to be treated like second class citizens when they get home. But somehow kneeling for the national anthem is the worst thing you can do? It took seeing returning black WWII vets lynched for President Truman, a grandson of Confederates to see teh horrors of that. Everyday, while I remain proud to be American, I continue to see myself more and more as a human being above all else.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 4, 2018 • 9:48:51pm

re: #33 majii

re: #26 HappyWarrior

read the huff po article.

It is amazing. So detailed & chilling.

I’m finding it hard to understand how the kid was able to “sneak” into the Fricker home. Things like that didn’t happen in my parents’ home and don’t happen at my home. Since I now live alone, I don’t permit some of the persons I know to enter my home, and I didn’t do it when my daughter lived with me.

He snuck in with the help of the daughter. They were caught in her bedroom in the morning.

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majii  Jan 4, 2018 • 9:48:56pm

re: #34 retired cynic

re: #33 majii

Wonder what part the daughter played in this? Probably nothing at all, and she will never ever trust herself again.

I think she’ll be haunted by this for as long as she lives and will wonder what she could have done to prevent it. His mom’s Facebook page shows she was into “preserving” Confederate statues and has a photo of her son at a gun range shooting a Thompson sub-machine gun. All adults should be ever mindful of the things they say and do when kids are in their presence.

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retired cynic  Jan 4, 2018 • 9:50:47pm

re: #38 majii

Thanks. I couldn’t bear to read it in detail, and was afraid of maligning the daughter when I said I wondered about her role in it.

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majii  Jan 4, 2018 • 9:53:31pm

re: #37 Stanley Sea

He snuck in with the help of the daughter. They were caught in her bedroom in the morning.

I didn’t play that with my daughter, and I still don’t. You couldn’t pay her enough money to sneak anyone into my home. My parents didn’t permit that to happen, and neither do I.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 4, 2018 • 9:55:09pm

re: #38 majii

re: #33 majii

Wonder what part the daughter played in this? Probably nothing at all, and she will never ever trust herself again.

I think she’ll be haunted by this for as long as she lives and will wonder what she could have done to prevent it. His mom’s Facebook page shows she was into “preserving” Confederate statues and has a photo of her son at a gun range shooting a Thompson sub-machine gun. All adults should be ever mindful of the things they say and do when kids are in their presence.

The parent’s poison passes onto the kids. But with the internet, the kids can go way further.

Oscar Hammerstein introduces the song “You’ve Got to be Taught” during Brotherhoo…HD Stock Footage

I think I just found the best original video of you’ve got to be taught.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2018 • 9:56:24pm

Guys though, there definitely this backlash against the left among young white men. People like Spencer are masters at playing into that. They play into the silly things about the left that annoy people and convince these guys to go all out hateful little shits. As I said, I really think it was different when I was a teen not even fifteen years ago because I really could point to respected older men who I knew fought the Axis. History becomes more distant and it’s easier to tell an impressionable mind “Ya know the Nazis were just misunderstood.”

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austin_blue  Jan 4, 2018 • 9:56:45pm

Trump’s tweet on Wolff is just a flat out lie and can be validated by numerous sources. On tape.

This is desperate shit by a panicked White House.

He’s a dead man walking as a President. Here’s the question:

What happens next? What can Republicans, who are looking down the barrel of a howitzer for the next election cycle, do?

Do they take the football away from him? They could say that Trump is temporarily incapacitated and give it to Pence. He is, at least, sane. A complete shit stain of a human being, but sane enough not to trigger a global nuclear war.

Do they try to remove him from office without impeaching him? This would actually be much easier than impeaching him, and might make the base the base feel better than having to watch him stand trial in the Senate.

I don’t know. At this point they are pretty much fucked.

I’m off to sleep. Sweet dreams. all.

This year, oddly, is getting scarier and, also oddly, a little more hopeful due to the absolute incompetence in the White House. But if this fucking Insane Mango Clown Posse Jizztrumpet twists off, we are all going to pay a hefty butcher’s bill.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2018 • 9:57:00pm

re: #41 Stanley Sea

The parent’s poison passes onto the kids. But with the internet, the kids can go way further.

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I think I just found the best original video of you’ve got to be taught.

The internet is a wonderful resource but it also could be our undoing too.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 4, 2018 • 9:58:00pm

re: #40 majii

He snuck in with the help of the daughter. They were caught in her bedroom in the morning.

I didn’t play that with my daughter, and I still don’t. You couldn’t pay her enough money to sneak anyone into my home. My parents didn’t permit that to happen, and neither do I.

I did. My parents were obliv. My boyfriend was a surfer, not a nazi.

But bottom line, there were no guns in our whole existence.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2018 • 10:01:47pm

re: #45 Stanley Sea

I did. My parents were obliv. My boyfriend was a surfer, not a nazi.

But bottom line, there were no guns in our whole existence.

Yeah my parents never owned guns either. In fact, I think my Dad may dislike guns more than I do. Both my brothers have SOs. The one is married and the other has been dating the same girl for two years. Both have very different relationships with their SO’s family. My one brother is close with his wife’s family. His MiL even calls him mijo, I think she sees him as a sort of surrogate son- they’re all daughters just like my brothers and I are all brothers. My other brother is also involved in a family with all daughters but the relationship with the SO’s parents is more cool. The father is a bit of a bully and my brother to his credit called him out when he was saying bigoted crap about LDS of all people. Funny that an atheist would be defending Mormons against a Christian but that’s what happened.

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BeachDem  Jan 4, 2018 • 10:03:11pm

re: #45 Stanley Sea

I did. My parents were obliv. My boyfriend was a surfer, not a nazi.

But bottom line, there were no guns in our whole existence.

All I can think of is

Damn—I was hoping the new book would hit my kindle at 12:01, but nothing so far.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 4, 2018 • 10:03:34pm

re: #43 austin_blue

This year, oddly, is getting scarier and, also oddly, a little more hopeful due to the absolute incompetence in the White House. But if this fucking Insane Mango Clown Posse Jizztrumpet twists off, we are all going to pay a hefty butcher’s bill.

It’s only the 4th. We’ve been through 6 meltdowns.

It is not going to go well. The GOP is still not at the bail off period.

Fight fight fight fight.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2018 • 10:04:36pm

re: #47 BeachDem

All I can think of is

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Damn—I was hoping the new book would hit my kindle at 12:01, but nothing so far.

Surf Nazis must hang out with the same KKK members that Sessions got smoking pot.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 4, 2018 • 10:05:54pm

re: #47 BeachDem

All I can think of is

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Damn—I was hoping the new book would hit my kindle at 12:01, but nothing so far.

Killing me

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Citizen K  Jan 4, 2018 • 10:06:52pm

On a completely non-politics related note…I am glad I never heard of this Logan Paul shit before, because christ. If this guy is one of the “biggest’ Youtube stars, then I’m glad I haven’t quite jumped on the wagon of idolizing purely online celebrities.

Japan Isn’t Happy With Logan Paul’s Tokyo Video, Either

On January 1, the most important day on the Japanese calendar, when families gather and think about the new year, YouTuber Logan Paul posted an apparent suicide on YouTube. That wasn’t the only time he insulted the country’s cultural norms. He started doing that days earlier.

On December 30, he uploaded a clip titled “We Fought In The Middle Of Tokyo!” In it, Paul goes around city as if its his personal playground. He does that in his other videos in the US, but this isn’t the US. It’s a city that he’s visiting in a country that has allowed him to enter.

“I swear, Tokyo is just a giant playground,” Paul says at one point during the clip. “Maybe it’s not. Maybe I should stop. Probably not.”

He probably should have stopped.

And from the comments:

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2018 • 10:08:44pm

re: #51 Citizen K

On a completely non-politics related note…I am glad I never heard of this Logan Paul shit before, because christ. If this guy is one of the “biggest’ Youtube stars, then I’m glad I haven’t quite jumped on the wagon of idolizing purely online celebrities.

Japan Isn’t Happy With Logan Paul’s Tokyo Video, Either

And from the comments:

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These people become famous and they make good money. Pewdiepie is another. If I can die without hearing that dickehad’s voice again, I’d be happy. Some of these YouTube celebs are all right, they actually try to educate people but most of these guys are just obnoxious fucks.

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Citizen K  Jan 4, 2018 • 10:14:24pm

re: #52 HappyWarrior

These people become famous and they make good money. Pewdiepie is another. If I can die without hearing that dickehad’s voice again, I’d be happy. Some of these YouTube celebs are all right, they actually try to educate people but most of these guys are just obnoxious fucks.

I know that well enough, I just never got Pewdiepie’s schtick before became another one of the new faces of Youtube, and the shit he pulled since then made me glad I didn’t. I’m not even against Lets Play folks (I haven’t heard or seen anything similarly bad about Markiplier, for one).

It just feels like the infamous Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory seems to work even after anonymity is removed, long as you get an audience big enough.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 4, 2018 • 10:20:00pm

L to the OL

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Stanley Sea  Jan 4, 2018 • 10:21:00pm

DJT media genius

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jan 4, 2018 • 10:22:17pm

re: #53 Citizen K

I know that well enough, I just never got Pewdiepie’s schtick before became another one of the new faces of Youtube, and the shit he pulled since then made me glad I didn’t. I’m not even against Lets Play folks (I haven’t heard or seen anything similarly bad about Markiplier, for one).

It just feels like the infamous Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory seems to work even after anonymity is removed, long as you get an audience big enough.

In a lot of ways, the new brand of instant Internet celebrity feeds on the same kind of shallow provocation and prurience that governed pulp presses and sideshows: the cheapest way to get a big draw is to go for the lowest common denominator in shocks and thrills.

The other thing that’s happening is that people become big because of hype and the incredible speed at which memes and clips create saturation and awareness, but don’t have an actual talent to sustain themselves over a career arc. After a few years, they’ve no fresh ideas, no material that innovates, etc. This is another reason that you see a lurch towards extreme positions or just meaningless “edginess”: loud and extreme fills the hole where being a well-honed performer is missing.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 4, 2018 • 10:31:49pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Jan 4, 2018 • 10:35:00pm

I’m listening to Norman Ohler’s Blitzed, again, because for some reason a bunch of nationalist dicks on crank guided by an idiot propped up with a Keith-Richards-esque cocktail seems relevant. For some reason.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 4, 2018 • 10:49:53pm
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JordanRules  Jan 4, 2018 • 10:54:32pm
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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jan 4, 2018 • 10:57:12pm

re: #47 BeachDem

All I can think of is

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Damn—I was hoping the new book would hit my kindle at 12:01, but nothing so far.

Due at 9:00 am EST.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 4, 2018 • 10:57:44pm

Fight me.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 4, 2018 • 11:03:09pm

re: #62 goddamnedfrank

Fight me.

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Stevie Nicks.

If she wasn’t included? Fight back

have fun with your other choices.

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Targetpractice  Jan 4, 2018 • 11:05:27pm

So I got stuck at work for what looks like the weekend, but in return I got to watch Trump collapse into a puddle of his own piss over a damned book.

Damnit, now I want to trudge through the damned snow just to seek out popcorn.

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TedStriker  Jan 4, 2018 • 11:10:45pm
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JordanRules  Jan 4, 2018 • 11:15:11pm

Only one?

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JordanRules  Jan 4, 2018 • 11:17:00pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jan 4, 2018 • 11:23:41pm

re: #67 JordanRules

This thread has some good stuff from the book.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 4, 2018 • 11:25:27pm

Had to recycle one of my old shops from the 2016 GOP debates.

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Kragar  Jan 4, 2018 • 11:27:43pm

Fiona Apple - I Know

Joan Jett - Do You Wanna Touch Me

Florence + The Machine - Kiss With A Fist

Caro Emerald - The Wonderful in You

Blank Space - Vintage Cabaret - Style Taylor Swift Cover ft. Ariana Savalas

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JordanRules  Jan 4, 2018 • 11:29:09pm

re: #69 goddamnedfrank

Thanks for pointing me there! I knew there had to be some more good bits coming out in the wee hours from the advanced copy folks reading their asses off right now.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 4, 2018 • 11:30:24pm

re: #68 TedStriker

I have memories of One Less.

Listening & it is beautiful.

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TedStriker  Jan 4, 2018 • 11:35:58pm

re: #62 goddamnedfrank

re: #71 Kragar

Apparently, Barbadoro is a clueless moron when it comes to the Twitters; she’s getting roasted:

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JordanRules  Jan 4, 2018 • 11:37:53pm

Sade
Lauryn Hill
Shirley Manson
Stevie Nicks
Annie Lennox
Jill Scott

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 4, 2018 • 11:38:18pm

re: #68 TedStriker

+1 for Maria. She’s amazing.

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TedStriker  Jan 4, 2018 • 11:44:19pm

re: #76 Single-handed sailor

+1 for Maria. She’s amazing.

Her self-titled album (which “Mad Mad Me” and “Midnight at the Oasis” is on) is one of the few I have that I like/love every track on it. Art Bell, of all people, is who turned me on to Muldaur, back in the caveman days when he helmed Coast to Coast AM at its zenith and I worked as a guard on overnights, because he used “Midnight at the Oasis” as one of his main bump tracks coming in and out of breaks.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 4, 2018 • 11:55:17pm

re: #75 JordanRules

Sade
Lauryn Hill
Shirley Manson
Stevie Nicks
Annie Lennox
Jill Scott

Heart
Stevie Nicks
Emmylou Harris
Linda Ronstadt
Crystal Gayle

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KingKenrod  Jan 4, 2018 • 11:58:56pm

I couldn’t pick just 5 favorites, so I’ll just use all 5 of my votes for Joni Mitchell for now.

And in the spirit of so many great 70’s vocalists mentioned, here’s Phoebe Snow doing “Dirty Work” with Donald Fagen, an amazing recording I ran across very recently.

Donald Fagen, Ollabelle & Phoebe Snow - 2007 Woodstock Night

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 4, 2018 • 11:59:58pm

re: #77 TedStriker

She plays small clubs in Northern California a lot. I like almost every song she sings. She has a wide variety, blues, bluegrass, gospel… Midnight at the Oasis is unlike everything else she sings, and it’s what people know her for.

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JordanRules  Jan 5, 2018 • 12:00:06am

re: #78 Anymouse 🌹

Almost put Ronstadt in my list. Love her and she’s a fellow Arizonian!

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 5, 2018 • 12:04:03am

Hmmm, trying to distract from something?

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wheat-dogg  Jan 5, 2018 • 12:04:18am

Just so you all know the USA is not the only ones with snow problems …

scmp.com

We got about 3” here in Zhengzhou, but more is expected tonight and tomorrow.

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TedStriker  Jan 5, 2018 • 12:04:45am

re: #80 Single-handed sailor

She plays small clubs in Northern California a lot. I like almost every song she sings. She has a wide variety, blues, bluegrass, gospel… Midnight at the Oasis is unlike everything else she sings, and it’s what people know her for.

“Midnight at the Oasis” had to have been the designated “top-40 radio” track for the album, since it is so much more pop than the rest of the album, which, as you said, is quite varied in styles covered; that said, I think it’s still a damn good track with her vocals and that guitar playin’ on it.

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piratedan  Jan 5, 2018 • 12:05:17am
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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 5, 2018 • 12:07:02am

re: #81 JordanRules

Almost put Ronstadt in my list. Love her and she’s a fellow Arizonian!

Tough call to narrow it down to just five. I could also include:

Juice Newton
Helen Reddy
Olivia Newton-John
Carpenters
Abba
Donna Summer
Evanescence

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 5, 2018 • 12:16:08am

Maria Muldaur / Richland Woman Blues

I think Maria Muldaur the only female vocalist I can listen to for more than 5 songs.

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Targetpractice  Jan 5, 2018 • 12:16:09am

re: #82 Ace-o-aces

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Hmmm, trying to distract from something?

Meanwhile on Earth 2, Republicans are still absolutely livid over Attorney General Perez announcing a DOJ investigation into the Trump Foundation.

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 5, 2018 • 12:20:20am

The whole Trump empire screams RICO.

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Kragar  Jan 5, 2018 • 12:23:33am
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Targetpractice  Jan 5, 2018 • 12:45:26am

re: #90 Kragar

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Corollary to “History began on Jan 20th, 2009” is “The only history that matters began after Jan 21st, 2017.” Much like how our “win” against ISIS is credited to Trump for…failing to fuck up the strategy started under Obama.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 5, 2018 • 1:44:55am

re: #69 goddamnedfrank

Hell, I didn’t know Hannity was a vaper.

Was he a former smoker who switched to vaping to quit?

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 5, 2018 • 1:45:37am

re: #89 Single-handed sailor

The whole Trump empire screams RICO.

IIRC, there’s a couple of RICO guys on Mueller’s team.

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Jan 5, 2018 • 1:55:39am

I just watched the “random” drawing for the Virginia House race that was tied -
I put this in quotes because it was anything but a random draw. James Alcorn, the Republican State Board of Elections Chairman literally was sitting right in front of the open vessel when the two names were added and had a clear view of both the entire time.

nbcnews.com

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Scout  Jan 5, 2018 • 2:09:03am

Rindy Ross
Debora Iyall
Belinda Carlisle
Exene Cervenka
Dale Bozzio

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 5, 2018 • 2:27:35am

I’ve come up with a couple more female vocalists. now up to 3 with Storm Large and China Forbes from Pink Martini

Pink Martini (with singer Storm Large) - Până când nu te iubeam

Pink Martini - Hey Eugene! - Hey Eugene

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 5, 2018 • 2:31:14am

Marianne Faithful Makes 4…

Marianne Faithfull - Sister Morphine (HQ)

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 5, 2018 • 2:47:57am

Shonen Knife.

Youtube Video

Edited - a newer vid.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 5, 2018 • 3:53:43am

re: #2 Scout

Repeating myself from that last thread:

I’ve seen some bits and pieces here and there suggesting that this Michael Wolff fellow isn’t necessarily known for dotting every i and crossing every t, journalism-wise.

So don’t be surprised if some details of this book are found to be wrong.

and as soon as one minor or irrelevant detail is proven wrong or not fully documented, they can then throw out the whole thing.

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BlueSpotinAL  Jan 5, 2018 • 3:54:23am

Up waaaaay too early. Dropped number one son off at airport for his return to Shanghai.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 5, 2018 • 4:09:18am

re: #101 BlueSpotinAL

Up waaaaay too early. Dropped number one son off at airport for his return to Shanghai.

You’re not the only one up early

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BlueSpotinAL  Jan 5, 2018 • 4:17:23am

re: #102 FormerDirtDart

You’re not the only one up early

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So while I was dropping off number one son, Trump was dropping number two while tweeting. Trump is a real twooper.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 5, 2018 • 4:24:27am

Mark Hamill is trying to out-nice Tom Hanks. He may be winning.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 5, 2018 • 4:42:53am

North Korea apparently hit one of its own cities with a missile.

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freetoken  Jan 5, 2018 • 4:44:02am

re: #102 FormerDirtDart

Trump likes the DJIA because its acronym starts with his initials.

And what the Dow is indicating, besides a tulip-blowup that is going to crash, is inflation. Not something that will be a friend of all those jobless coal-mining marks of Trump’s.

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meteor  Jan 5, 2018 • 4:49:01am
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Decatur Deb  Jan 5, 2018 • 4:50:06am

In no order:

Bonnie Dobson
Sylvia Fricker
Nina Simone
Jacqueline du Pre
and, at the moment, Christina Pluhar

M. Cazzati: Ciaconna (C. Pluhar, L’Arpeggiata)

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 5, 2018 • 4:50:44am

re: #100 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and as soon as one minor or irrelevant detail is proven wrong or not fully documented, they can then throw out the whole thing.

Just like they did with Clinton Cash—-oh wait…

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jeffreyw  Jan 5, 2018 • 4:51:34am

Imgur


Good morning!

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 5, 2018 • 4:54:02am

Are we listing all our favorite female performers this morning?

Lorena McKennit
Joan Baez
Odetta

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 5, 2018 • 4:57:11am

Buffy Ste-Marie

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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 4:57:56am

re: #62 goddamnedfrank

Fight me.

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Gillian Welch, The Cranberries, Mamas and Papas, Emmylou Harris, & Lucinda Williams.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 5, 2018 • 4:58:49am

The Dixie Chicks

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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 5:00:17am

re: #104 wheat-dogg

Mark Hamill is trying to out-nice Tom Hanks. He may be winning.

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That’s really cool because you know Hamill probably has a crowded Twitter feed. I’m not a fan of the Star Wars series but I like him.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 5, 2018 • 5:00:18am

re: #111 The Vicious Babushka

Someone started it last night (leaders, soloists). Our lists would overlap at lot.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 5, 2018 • 5:03:07am

Some people believe this obvious spoof is from Wolff’s book:

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Decatur Deb  Jan 5, 2018 • 5:04:36am

Cyndi Lauper vs Madonna was the great struggle of our times. We lost.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 5, 2018 • 5:06:24am

Pink
Lady Gaga

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 5, 2018 • 5:06:46am

Beyonce

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wheat-dogg  Jan 5, 2018 • 5:06:49am

re: #115 HappyWarrior

That’s really cool because you know Hamill probably has a crowded Twitter feed. I’m not a fan of the Star Wars series but I like him.

He came to the bedside of some very sick child to cheer him up. Hamill’s good people.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 5, 2018 • 5:08:47am

Judy Henske

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 5, 2018 • 5:08:49am
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PhillyPretzel  Jan 5, 2018 • 5:12:47am

re: #123 The Vicious Babushka

Here we go again. Investigate again. This is such a broken record.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 5, 2018 • 5:12:48am

I just checked my Kindle, “Fire & Fury” has not appeared in my book list.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 5, 2018 • 5:12:51am

re: #117 The Vicious Babushka

Some people believe this obvious spoof is from Wolff’s book:

Not me
littlegreenfootballs.com

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 5, 2018 • 5:13:09am

re: #124 PhillyPretzel

Here we go again. Investigate again. This is such a broken record.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 5, 2018 • 5:16:58am

re: #125 The Vicious Babushka

There is a note that it will be available at 9:00 am EST. That is probably when you will see it.

I just looked at the order “window” and that said Jan 9th. Geez. I would love it if folks would get their stories straight.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 5, 2018 • 5:23:41am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 5:30:30am

re: #123 The Vicious Babushka

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When in doubt, investigate the Clintons as your kingdom is crashing.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 5:31:59am

re: #129 The Vicious Babushka

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Ha that’s one way to pass the time during traffic.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 5:32:40am

re: #121 wheat-dogg

He came to the bedside of some very sick child to cheer him up. Hamill’s good people.

I believe it. He just seems like a very kind guy.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 5, 2018 • 5:41:02am

re: #130 HappyWarrior

When in doubt, investigate the Clintons as your kingdom is crashing.

Let’s hope it comes crashing down but give the total Republican support for Trump and the corruption spreading through the DOJ, it’s just as possible that they will create charges to persecute Hillary. This is third world dictator behavior and that’s his goal.

I’m not sure I believe the Wolff anecdote that all the Trump people were all expecting to lose the election. There was that very odd rally a week before the election where Trump talked to himself: “We’ve gotta be nice and cool,” Trump said at his last rally of the day. “Nice and cool. All right? Stay on point, Donald. Stay on point. No sidetracks, Donald.” This is not advice that someone would speak if he were sure that loss was inevitable. It seems more that his team finally realized that he could win and were advising him what to do to maximize that opportunity.

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dangerman  Jan 5, 2018 • 5:42:54am

While you all are reading fire and fury today I’ll be busy listening to every music video posted on this thread

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Belafon  Jan 5, 2018 • 5:45:41am

I think this one is a better way of saying what I say about Republicans and states’ rights:

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William Lewis  Jan 5, 2018 • 5:45:51am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 5:48:18am

re: #133 Hecuba’s daughter

Let’s hope it comes crashing down but give the total Republican support for Trump and the corruption spreading through the DOJ, it’s just as possible that they will create charges to persecute Hillary. This is third world dictator behavior and that’s his goal.

I’m not sure I believe the Wolff anecdote that all the Trump people were all expecting to lose the election. There was that very odd rally a week before the election where Trump talked to himself: “We’ve gotta be nice and cool,” Trump said at his last rally of the day. “Nice and cool. All right? Stay on point, Donald. Stay on point. No sidetracks, Donald.” This is not advice that someone would speak if he were sure that loss was inevitable. It seems more that his team finally realized that he could win and were advising him what to do to maximize that opportunity.

Trump’s inner circle is different from Trump himself. They may have thought a loss was coming. Who knows though. Anyhow it’s pathetic they need to use the Clinton boogeyman.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 5:48:50am

re: #135 Belafon

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Sessions is truly a terrible guy.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 5, 2018 • 5:52:27am

re: #138 HappyWarrior

The fact that people were happy about it is too much for him. That is why he must roll back all of the laws that make cannabis legal.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 5, 2018 • 5:55:52am

Joan Armatrading
Patti Smith
Lucinda Williams
Kathleen Edwards
Indigo Girls

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 5, 2018 • 5:57:30am

re: #135 Belafon

Zeke Miller

@ZekeJMiller
WASHINGTON (AP) - AP sources: AG Sessions will rescind policy that allowed legal marijuana to flourish without federal intervention.
7:41 AM - Jan 4, 2018
99 99 Replies 209 209 Retweets 275 275 likes

My suspicion is that this is all Jeff Sessions and that Trump doesn’t care. OTOH Trump is certainly on board with anything that will lead to more minorities in prison.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 5, 2018 • 5:59:55am

re: #138 HappyWarrior

Sessions is truly a terrible guy.

I’m thinking/hoping he goes down hard for lying to Congress and investigators. But who knows.

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darthstar  Jan 5, 2018 • 6:03:08am

re: #142 Unshaken Defiance

I’m thinking/hoping he goes down hard for lying to Congress and investigators. But who knows.

If Democrats take back both houses, they should charge that fucker first.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 5, 2018 • 6:03:22am

re: #142 Unshaken Defiance

I’m thinking/hoping he goes down hard for lying to Congress and investigators. But who knows.

The Republicans don’t care if a Republican colludes with the Russians or commits perjury. They will never prosecute for this. They are eager to restore white male dominance in this country, with Republicans in charge and the Trump victory has given them that opportunity.

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darthstar  Jan 5, 2018 • 6:05:16am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 6:05:32am

re: #142 Unshaken Defiance

I’m thinking/hoping he goes down hard for lying to Congress and investigators. But who knows.

Let’s hope.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 6:06:39am

re: #145 darthstar

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We warned ya Lumpy. But it really says a lot that this was your breaking point.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 5, 2018 • 6:07:48am

re: #129 The Vicious Babushka

You see that around here, it’s usually fire ants.

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Old Liberal  Jan 5, 2018 • 6:08:25am

re: #144 Hecuba’s daughter

The Republicans don’t care if a Republican colludes with the Russians or commits perjury. They will never prosecute for this. They are eager to restore white male dominance in this country, with Republicans in charge and the Trump victory has given them that opportunity.

I remember when we all thought that “the adults won’t let this get out of hand”. The belief that the old money like Bush and Rockefeller would step in and prevent things from going off the rails if it came to that. Guess that was wrong. It appears that the money is on the other side, to paraphrase Billie Joe.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 5, 2018 • 6:13:03am

re: #144 Hecuba’s daughter

I don’t expect the GOP to step up and do the right thing. I expect it to go extinct. With a push from me and all my friends.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 5, 2018 • 6:14:11am

re: #149 Old Liberal

The money is on the side of Wall street. We shoulda remembered this from 2008.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 6:15:36am

re: #150 Unshaken Defiance

I don’t expect the GOP to step up and do the right thing. I expect it to go extinct.With a push from me and all my friends.

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Yep as much as I would have preferred it not be Jeb, I think Jeb would not be an embarrassment and would govern like an adult.

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darthstar  Jan 5, 2018 • 6:19:09am
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makeitstop  Jan 5, 2018 • 6:19:17am

Jenny Lewis, goddamn it.

Jenny Lewis “Acid Tongue”

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 5, 2018 • 6:19:25am

re: #150 Unshaken Defiance

I don’t expect the GOP to step up and do the right thing. I expect it to go extinct. With a push from me and all my friends.

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That would be great — but they are funded by big money and supported by racist and Ayn Rand acolytes nationwide. Let’s see if truth can emerge triumphant in this darkness.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 6:23:59am

re: #153 darthstar

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Cowards.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 6:24:39am

Oh First Aud Kit, pair of talented Swedish folk singing sisters.

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darthstar  Jan 5, 2018 • 6:27:02am
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ObserverArt  Jan 5, 2018 • 6:27:20am

re: #85 piratedan

k.d. lang
Linda Ronstadt
Chrissie Hynde
Bonnie Raitt
The Go-Go’s

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Many updings for being the first to mention Chrissie Hynde.

The question was female led band…The Pretenders is Chrissie’s band and she is the main songwriter too.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 5, 2018 • 6:28:20am

re: #152 HappyWarrior

Primaries matter. Trump was arguably the worst of the short list field. With hindsight, incontrovertibly so. Looking forward, watch the California governors races. The ostensible leader may not be the best guy. The California GOP has no solid challenger. the Democratic party primary is the Governors race. And this is a place where gerrymandering has cemented already strong democratic legislative power in place.

The two Republicans are businessman John Cox and Assemblyman Travis Allen. Cox is formerly from Illinois, where he ran in two unsuccessful bids for Congress in the early 2000s. Allen represents California’s 72nd State Assembly District, which includes portions of Huntington Beach and Santa Ana.

Who?

OTOH

The four Democrats are Lieutenant Governor Gavin Newsom, former mayor of Los Angeles Antonio Villaraigosa, State Treasurer John Chiang and former California Superintendent of Public Instruction Delaine Eastin.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Jan 5, 2018 • 6:28:37am

re: #158 darthstar

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But the trump spawn were saying that there were going to be 250,000 new jrbs!

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 5, 2018 • 6:31:19am
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darthstar  Jan 5, 2018 • 6:31:54am
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makeitstop  Jan 5, 2018 • 6:34:14am

re: #147 HappyWarrior

We warned ya Lumpy. But it really says a lot that this was your breaking point.

He got over it, obviously.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 5, 2018 • 6:34:24am

VB I just was able to purchase and download Fire and Fury from amazon. You should be able to do the same.

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William Lewis  Jan 5, 2018 • 6:35:04am

Ah, well. Got the truck warming up. Then off to the Child Support Agency to find out how to get what I pay adjusted down to what I make, Salvation Army to get (I pray) rent money , pawn shop to get phone & interest money & lastly work for all of 4 hours which is why I run around doing all that other robbing of Peter to pay Paul. Whee!

Have a good day folks.

William

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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 6:39:16am

re: #164 makeitstop

He got over it, obviously.

Yeah appears so.

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ObserverArt  Jan 5, 2018 • 6:40:59am

re: #111 The Vicious Babushka

Are we listing all our favorite female performers this morning?

Lorena McKennit
Joan Baez
Odetta

The original question is: “who are your 5 favourite female led bands/solo artists?”

I take “led” to mean main part of the act and the band is either formed and controlled by the female artists, or because she is such a strong solo artist, the backers are there to support her.

I would add extra points if the female also is the main lyricist and music composer.

That is why I gave the extra updings for Chrissie Hynde.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 5, 2018 • 6:41:08am

re: #144 Hecuba’s daughter

The Republicans don’t care if a Republican colludes with the Russians or commits perjury. They will never prosecute for this. They are eager to restore white male dominance in this country, with Republicans in charge and the Trump victory has given them that opportunity.

Which is why I refer to them as the RepubliKKKlan Party!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 5, 2018 • 6:43:36am

re: #139 PhillyPretzel

The fact that people were happy about it is too much for him. That is why he must roll back all of the laws that make cannabis legal.

He has a base to appease. They tend to prefer alcohol.

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makeitstop  Jan 5, 2018 • 6:43:51am

re: #168 ObserverArt

The original question is: “who are your 5 favourite female led bands/solo artists?”

I take “led” to mean main part of the act and the band is either formed and controlled by the female artists, or because she is such a strong solo artist, the backers are there to support her.

I would add extra points if the female also is the main lyricist and music composer.

That is why I gave the extra updings for Chrissie Hynde.

See my Jenny Lewis video above. Her songs, her band.

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ObserverArt  Jan 5, 2018 • 6:44:48am

And one of my favorites of Chrissie and her ability to be more than just a rocker.

The Pretenders - I Go To Sleep (best audio)

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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 6:44:56am

re: #170 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He has a base to appease. They tend to prefer alcohol.

Meth.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 5, 2018 • 6:45:45am

re: #170 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He has a base to appease. They tend to prefer alcohol moonshine.

FIFY

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makeitstop  Jan 5, 2018 • 6:46:07am

re: #172 ObserverArt

And one of my favorites of Chrissie and her ability to be more than just a rocker.

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That’s a Ray Davies song, BTW. She recorded that while she was still married to him.

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darthstar  Jan 5, 2018 • 6:48:39am
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ObserverArt  Jan 5, 2018 • 6:50:05am

re: #136 William Lewis

Good Morning, Can’t resist…

Lizzy Hale/Halestorm

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Had to upding you for X.

Just because.

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ObserverArt  Jan 5, 2018 • 6:54:18am

re: #171 makeitstop

See my Jenny Lewis video above. Her songs, her band.

No disagreement from me. She’s a good songwriter and band leader. I like the makeup of her band too with both male and female members.

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ObserverArt  Jan 5, 2018 • 6:55:58am

re: #175 makeitstop

That’s a Ray Davies song, BTW. She recorded that while she was still married to him.

I know. There was no mention all the songs had to be the female leaders! : )

I put that one up because of her voice. I just love that song….gives me some chills when she hits the middle change.

Edit: Hey! Where did everyone go???

Are you all downloading and reading the new book?

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darthstar  Jan 5, 2018 • 7:01:14am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 7:03:09am

re: #180 darthstar

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Well duh.

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darthstar  Jan 5, 2018 • 7:08:34am

Fuck it…someone else can respond to him.

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CongoJack  Jan 5, 2018 • 7:10:28am

re: #182 darthstar

You can just smell the desperation on that tweet. It is news drop Friday… I am curious what new information we will find out today!

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jan 5, 2018 • 7:13:50am

re: #40 majii

He snuck in with the help of the daughter. They were caught in her bedroom in the morning.

I didn’t play that with my daughter, and I still don’t. You couldn’t pay her enough money to sneak anyone into my home. My parents didn’t permit that to happen, and neither do I.

I wonder if this is a generational thing.

I had an involvement/friendship with a Millennial-aged young woman a couple of years ago (she’s about 26 now); long-distance friendship with feelings for one another; visiting her area on vacation, I rode into town from Texas on a motorcycle and overnighted at her family home, in the guest bedroom (she still lives at home) and her parents basically ignored me. I was extremely confused. Total stranger rides in from out of town, sleeps over under your roof, and you barely even say hello to the guy? What if I had been a bad person? Don’t you want to speak to someone who arrives in your home and may have an interest in your daughter? I asked my friend about this and she said “oh, they trust my decisions”.

Um, OK… I guess I’m “old school”?

Later on, this girl’s older sister got hammered and had to be peeled off a friend of mine before she did something to destroy her marriage engagement… Parents ended up dragging older sis off the front lawn of our group’s vacation rental house kicking & screaming at 4 in the morning because she was violently drunk and incapacitated, after my friends & I had tried to get her safely into a car (any car) to be driven home. I later asked my friend, “What if we had been bad people? She needs to be careful” - friend got pissed off, didn’t speak to me for three days.

A year after that, this same friend got drunk and cheated on her boyfriend with two different guys in an afternoon, and got driven home screaming and crying at 3 AM about what she had done in a weird repeat of the prior year, all the while saying “She needed to talk to her mom”… Unable to handle herself at age 25…

I don’t know what the hell was going on with her family but the whole operation seemed pretty much lawless and without any direction. And these aren’t stupid trashy people on COPS somewhere, this is a comfortably middle class family in a Savannah suburb. Very strange.

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darthstar  Jan 5, 2018 • 7:14:45am
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darthstar  Jan 5, 2018 • 7:15:20am

Fuckin’ typo on a tweet. I hate when that happens.

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Belafon  Jan 5, 2018 • 7:17:32am

re: #184 Pawn of the Oppressor

No, it’s not generational. I’m gen-X. My friends were doing it. It’s been going on as long as there have been windows and doors.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 5, 2018 • 7:17:38am

re: #186 darthstar

We all make mistakes; we are human. :)

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MsJ  Jan 5, 2018 • 7:18:34am

re: #186 darthstar

Fuckin’ typo on a tweet. I hate when that happens.

Close enough for government work. :-D

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makeitstop  Jan 5, 2018 • 7:21:19am

re: #179 ObserverArt

I know. There was no mention all the songs had to be the female leaders! : )

I put that one up because of her voice. I just love that song….gives me some chills when she hits the middle change.

Edit: Hey! Where did everyone go???

Are you all downloading and reading the new book?

We went outside to attempt to clear the driveway some. At least now I can get the truck out if need be.

From the look of it, we got about 14” of snow. The truck thermometer says 12 degrees, the radio man says wind chills are bouncing around -15.

How many days until Spring?

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nines09  Jan 5, 2018 • 7:21:53am

re: #186 darthstar

You can delete and repost, ya know.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 7:24:39am

re: #185 darthstar

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Bigotry of no expectations.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 5, 2018 • 7:24:52am

re: #180 darthstar

Advertisers see “aligning their brand with Hannity as actually the functional equivalent of giving a political donation to Trump”

Gives the Emoluments clause a whole new shade of meaning.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jan 5, 2018 • 7:26:52am

re: #187 Belafon

No, it’s not generational. I’m gen-X. My friends were doing it. It’s been going on as long as there have been windows and doors.

I did my share of sneaking in and out too when I was 16, but I knew there were consequences. I mean there was no sense of territory, boundary, or formality at all.

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ObserverArt  Jan 5, 2018 • 7:28:13am

re: #190 makeitstop

We went outside to attempt to clear the driveway some. At least now I can get the truck out if need be.

From the look of it, we got about 14” of snow. The truck thermometer says 12 degrees, the radio man says wind chills are bouncing around -15.

How many days until Spring?

I’m kinda hoping that after this big old cold front scoots out next week all of the hard winter states get back into the mid-30s and higher for the rest of the season.

Sometimes when we get a deep and long cold snap it seems to take it out of the rest of the winter.

Hope so anyway.

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ObserverArt  Jan 5, 2018 • 7:31:53am

re: #195 nines09

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Video

I am loving all the great female guitar players there are these days.

Back in the 60s and 70s it was fairly rare to see ladies ripping it up on guitar and getting all heavy and hard.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 5, 2018 • 7:35:34am

re: #197 ObserverArt

I am loving all the great female guitar players there are these days.

Back in the 60s and 70s it was fairly rare to see ladies ripping it up on guitar and getting all heavy and hard.

Guitars were more often seen as musical instruments, rather than siege engines.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 5, 2018 • 7:37:38am

re: #182 darthstar

Fuck it…someone else can respond to him.

1. He lost by 3 millions votes
2. He’s still talking about an election that happened over a year ago. What a fucking snowflake.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 5, 2018 • 7:39:58am

re: #182 darthstar

I did, FWIW.

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nines09  Jan 5, 2018 • 7:40:29am
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Decatur Deb  Jan 5, 2018 • 7:43:37am
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wheat-dogg  Jan 5, 2018 • 7:44:03am

LOL. What a child!

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Dr. Matt  Jan 5, 2018 • 7:44:51am

re: #203 wheat-dogg

LOL. What a child!

“Sloppy”? FFS. How fucking embarrassing.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 7:45:47am

re: #203 wheat-dogg

LOL. What a child!

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Milo’ and the other alt-right grifters gotta decide whom they wants to live with Daddy Trump or Daddy Steve.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 5, 2018 • 7:45:57am

re: #204 Dr. Matt

“Sloppy”? FFS. How fucking embarrassing.

Yes, his primary job as President of the United States is making up cute nicknames for his enemies.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 7:46:12am

re: #204 Dr. Matt

“Sloppy”? FFS. How fucking embarrassing.

He thinks alliteration makes him sound clever.

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nines09  Jan 5, 2018 • 7:46:45am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 7:46:50am

re: #206 The Vicious Babushka

Yes, his primary job as President of the United States is making up cute nicknames for his enemies.

What’s his nickname for Putin going to be when he realizes that Putin isn’t his pal? Then again I don’t think there’s Twitter in federal prison.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 5, 2018 • 7:47:25am

Yet, the boy-child did confirm what Bannon said is true by calling him a “leaker”. Well played.

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ObserverArt  Jan 5, 2018 • 7:47:42am

re: #207 HappyWarrior

He thinks alliteration makes him sound clever.

Terrible Trump says what?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 7:48:18am

re: #211 ObserverArt

Terrible Trump says what?

Ha!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 5, 2018 • 7:48:56am

re: #206 The Vicious Babushka

Yes, his primary job as President of the United States is making up cute nicknames for his enemies.

Dubya was fond of nicknames, but generally reserved them for private meetings and conversations…

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jan 5, 2018 • 7:49:56am

re: #211 ObserverArt

Terrible Trump says what?

I prefer Toddler Trump.

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ObserverArt  Jan 5, 2018 • 7:50:02am

re: #212 HappyWarrior

Ha!

Or, Donny the Dolt.

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terraincognita  Jan 5, 2018 • 7:50:36am

re: #207 HappyWarrior

Thus Spake Covfefe: A President for None.

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lawhawk  Jan 5, 2018 • 7:50:38am

re: #208 nines09

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Belafon  Jan 5, 2018 • 7:52:58am

re: #210 Dr. Matt

Yet, the boy-child did confirm what Bannon said is true by calling him a “leaker”. Well played.

“The book is full of lies!”
“Then why did Trump call ‘Sloppy’ Steve a leaker?”

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Dr. Matt  Jan 5, 2018 • 7:53:44am

The new job numbers are out. Only 148,000 jobs were created in December. In short, 2017 was the worst year for job growth since 2010.

New Jobs Created by year
2007 - 1,063,000
2008 - 3,093,000
2009 - 5,068,000
2010 - 1,061,000
2011 - 2,091,000
2012 - 2,142,000
2013 - 2,302,000
2014 - 2,998,000
2015 - 2,713,000
2016 - 2,240,000
2017 - 2,055,000

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 5, 2018 • 7:54:18am

re: #217 lawhawk

Hello, you have reached the Robert Mueller plea deal line. Currently all legal staff are busy assisting others seeking plea deals. You will be able to speak to an operator in the order in which your call was received.

Press 1 for collusion
Press 2 for sexual harrassment allegations
Press 3 for Emoluments Clause violation
Press 4 for Conflict of Interest violations
Press 5 for corroboration of pee tapes
Press 6 for Apprentice or other WWF outtakes.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Jan 5, 2018 • 7:54:21am

re: #204 Dr. Matt

“Sloppy”? FFS. How fucking embarrassing.

He’s known as it….as of right this morning.

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MsJ  Jan 5, 2018 • 7:54:41am

re: #205 HappyWarrior

Milo’ and the other alt-right grifters gotta decide whom they wants to live with Daddy Trump or Daddy Steve.

No contest. Who has the most money?

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wheat-dogg  Jan 5, 2018 • 7:54:54am

re: #218 Belafon

“The book is full of lies!”
“Then why did Trump call ‘Sloppy’ Steve a leaker?”

He really does not realize he incriminates himself when he tries to be so clever. I’m sure Mueller has someone tasked to monitor and record Trump’s Twitter accounts 24/7.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 5, 2018 • 7:55:37am

re: #222 MsJ

No contest. Who has the most money?

So you’re staying Bannon? I doubt Don the Con is that liquid.

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lawhawk  Jan 5, 2018 • 7:55:54am

re: #220 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I’m adding that!

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 5, 2018 • 7:58:22am

re: #220 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Those options are good ones.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 7:58:26am

re: #213 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Dubya was fond of nicknames, but generally reserved them for private meetings and conversations…

en.wikipedia.org

en.wikipedia.org

Bush’s nicknames are often neutral while Trump’s tend to be belittling. And I doubt Bush had he a Twitter account as POTUS would refer to people by nickname when expressing disagreement with them. Bush I hate to say as a longtime critic of his didn’t treat his opponents with the contempt Trumps does.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 7:58:49am

re: #222 MsJ

No contest. Who has the most money?

That I don’t know.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 5, 2018 • 7:59:32am
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lawhawk  Jan 5, 2018 • 8:01:17am

re: #227 HappyWarrior

en.wikipedia.org

en.wikipedia.org

Bush’s nicknames are often neutral while Trump’s tend to be belittling. And I doubt Bush had he a Twitter account as POTUS would refer to people by nickname when expressing disagreement with them. Bush I hate to say as a longtime critic of his didn’t treat his opponents with the contempt Trumps does.

Dubya was known to be very easy going and very good at schmoozing with people. That his policies sucked is irrelevant to how he treated the people around him. He used nicknames as a term of endearment, not to belittle as far as I’ve heard.

Trump uses nicknames to belittle and make himself feel better. He’s a spiteful, vengeful, little toad of a toddler (which is offensive to toddlers, who actually have the capacity to learn from their environment, while Trump seems to revel in his ignorance).

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makeitstop  Jan 5, 2018 • 8:03:14am

I would totally do this. Call these obstructionist fuckers out, on TV, every damn time.

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MsJ  Jan 5, 2018 • 8:06:37am
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MsJ  Jan 5, 2018 • 8:07:17am

re: #224 wheat-dogg

So you’re staying Bannon? I doubt Don the Con is that liquid.

Not trumpy, the Mercers, who are supporting trump.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 5, 2018 • 8:08:20am

re: #2 Scout

Repeating myself from that last thread:

I’ve seen some bits and pieces here and there suggesting that this Michael Wolff fellow isn’t necessarily known for dotting every i and crossing every t, journalism-wise.

So don’t be surprised if some details of this book are found to be wrong.

the more interesting thing is Trump’s response to it, the hysteria, the attempt to suppress it, etc.

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Belafon  Jan 5, 2018 • 8:08:30am

re: #219 Dr. Matt

The new job numbers are out. Only 148,000 jobs were created in December. In short, 2017 was the worst year for job growth since 2010.

New Jobs Created by year
2007 - 1,063,000
2008 - 3,093,000
2009 - 5,068,000
2010 - 1,061,000
2011 - 2,091,000
2012 - 2,142,000
2013 - 2,302,000
2014 - 2,998,000
2015 - 2,713,000
2016 - 2,240,000
2017 - 2,055,000

I’m curious how help wanted signs count toward job creation. There are so many around my area.

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lawhawk  Jan 5, 2018 • 8:08:47am

Better yet, let Wolff talk with NYS AG Schneiderman, because there’s likely state crimes involved as well - crimes that Trump can’t possibly pardon people for.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 5, 2018 • 8:09:03am

re: #231 makeitstop

I would totally do this. Call these obstructionist fuckers out, on TV, every damn time.

Absolutely, why the hell not?

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Sir John Barron  Jan 5, 2018 • 8:09:31am

Happy Fire and Fury release day!

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MsJ  Jan 5, 2018 • 8:09:52am

re: #236 lawhawk

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Better yet, let Wolff talk with NYS AG Schneiderman, because there’s likely state crimes involved as well - crimes that Trump can’t possibly pardon people for.

I am honest-to-god getting absolutely giggly. I shouldn’t get my hopes up, but I am.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 8:10:03am

re: #229 The Vicious Babushka

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Hey thanks conservative voters who enjoy beachfront properties who voted for us, enjoy your oily beach. //

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MsJ  Jan 5, 2018 • 8:11:01am

re: #238 Sir John Barron

Happy Fire and Fury release day!

It’s already on my Kindle app.

As much as I hate gossip and giving this putz money…I just had to. I need a giggle or three.

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Belafon  Jan 5, 2018 • 8:12:05am

re: #239 MsJ

I am honest-to-god getting absolutely giggly. I shouldn’t get my hopes up, but I am.

Any time someone says to you “that’s fake news” you can say “there’s a tape.” Watch them turn white.

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dangerman  Jan 5, 2018 • 8:12:41am

re: #168 ObserverArt

The original question is: “who are your 5 favourite female led bands/solo artists?”

I take “led” to mean main part of the act and the band is either formed and controlled by the female artists, or because she is such a strong solo artist, the backers are there to support her.

I would add extra points if the female also is the main lyricist and music composer.

That is why I gave the extra updings for Chrissie Hynde.

i would add:

susan tedeschi
bonnie raitt
laura nyro
roxy perry

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Jay C  Jan 5, 2018 • 8:13:35am

re: #240 HappyWarrior

Hey thanks conservative voters who enjoy beachfront properties who voted for us, enjoy your oily beach. //

And even more, enjoy having to pay for it when the G runs out of the cleanup money their tax-bill break freed the oil companies from having to pay (I.e. after the second major spill)…..

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wheat-dogg  Jan 5, 2018 • 8:14:01am

Enjoy the rest of your day/night, folks. I’m heading to bed.

It’s snowing again here, BTW. -8°C/18°F

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dangerman  Jan 5, 2018 • 8:14:41am

re: #188 PhillyPretzel

We all make mistakes; we are human. :)

we are devo

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darthstar  Jan 5, 2018 • 8:15:07am
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makeitstop  Jan 5, 2018 • 8:15:26am

Rick Wilson’s new piece on Daily Beast is straight fire. He’s clearly loving the fact that he’s outlasted the man who vowed to destroy him for opposing Trump.

Steve Bannon’s spectacular fall from grace in Trump World is a big, salty, delicious bowl of schadenfreude from the political gods in celebration of the new year.

Bannon wasn’t just one of Trump’s most senior aides and an architect of the destruction of the Republican Party; he was the multi-shirted, red-eyed White House troll, leaking tales of his brilliance to a constellation of reporters in the ostensibly hated mainstream media. His house organ Breitbart and a host of Trump-right websites and news outlets sang praises to his dank genius. Bannon, they proclaimed, was Trumpism in its distilled essence: revanchist, ahistorical, racially inflected, and consumed with an imaginary war on the media and America’s broader society.

Now, like two rats in a bag, Trump and Bannon are tearing at one another in a delicious public spat that has every possible bit of drama, except Bannon drunkenly bellowing for a round of fisticuffs with all comers and Trump offering to compare the length of their relative manhoods on live television. They deserve one another in so many ways.

The only thing in the whole piece that I can really find to disagree with is his calling Andrew Breitbart a ‘better man’ than Bannon. They’re both scum.

And he points out what I said a while back - that Bannon is nowhere near the political genius that the media has portrayed him as. Just like Rove before him, the media shine has worn off.

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lawhawk  Jan 5, 2018 • 8:15:39am

re: #239 MsJ

Nothing is going to happen overnight (unless Trump decides to fire a bunch of people akin to another Saturday Night Massacre).

Things that can speed along the end of this atrocious administration and sweep the GOP from power?

GOTV in primaries and the midterms in November.

Vote as if your life depends on it - because it does.

Support candidates even in places where the GOP has had historical advantages, because we’ve seen the GOP lose (or come close to losing) in deep red states. If Jones could win AL, that signals that there’s a lot of people who could come out in the midterms to help in purple districts.

Heck, there’s a handful of states with GOP districts that need to swing to Democrats to give them control - and flipping the districts in NJ, NY, and CA could do it with no other changes.

Getting control of the House would thwart the GOP’s base agenda, but wont stop the GOP from rubber stamping Trump’s judicial picks - that takes regaining the Senate, which is a tougher proposition.

It’s also the ongoing reason impeachment isn’t on the table - without control of both, there’s nothing to it. If the House goes Democratic, investigations would be much freer to go after the criminality that the GOP has been enabling by soft pedaling and outright obstructing on investigations (or instead choosing to investigate Clinton over and over and over).

Of course, there’s also the Mueller investigation and additional indictments that could be forthcoming. You can be damned sure that there’s more coming - but Mueller’s playing it very close to the vest for very obvious reasons.

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Jan 5, 2018 • 8:20:50am

re: #239 MsJ

I have a belated Xmas present for a co-worker that I keep forgetting to bring to work (it’s liquor). I told my friend yesterday that I am keeping the liquor and had instead ordered him a copy of Fire and Fury. :)

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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 8:21:31am

re: #248 makeitstop

Rick Wilson’s new piece on Daily Beast is straight fire. He’s clearly loving the fact that he’s outlasted the man who vowed to destroy him for opposing Trump.

The only thing in the whole piece that I can really find to disagree with is his calling Andrew Breitbart a ‘better man’ than Bannon. They’re both scum.

And he points out what I said a while back - that Bannon is nowhere near the political genius that the media has portrayed him as. Just like Rove before him, the media shine has worn off.

I do not for the life of me get the attempts to rewrite Breitbart. With all respect ot Rick who I actually like but Breitbart still tried to get Shirley Sherrod fired over a doctored type, he still shouted shit at protesters, he still was a hateful, coked up asshole. I feel bad his kids lost their father but he’s not missed in politics by a long shot. It would have been better if Andrew Breitbart had woke up one morning and realized he had been a shitty person and created a terrible thing and used his influence to fix that but he didn’t.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 5, 2018 • 8:21:39am

re: #250 Flying Squirrel Girl

I have a belated Xmas present for a co-worker that I keep forgetting to bring to work (it’s liquor). I told my friend yesterday that I am keeping the liquor and had instead ordered him a copy of Fire and Fury. :)

Looking for the downside.

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Jan 5, 2018 • 8:22:48am

re: #252 Decatur Deb

Win-win. He promised to let me borrow the book when he finishes!

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darthstar  Jan 5, 2018 • 8:23:29am
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dangerman  Jan 5, 2018 • 8:24:28am

for informational purposes only:

fire and fury is up at the pirate bay

arrrgh

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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 8:30:26am

re: #254 darthstar

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If he needed to be prodded to stand up to Bannon, Maggie, he’s weak and a bigger baby than I thought.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 5, 2018 • 8:32:36am

re: #254 darthstar

What the hell is Maggie talking about?

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nines09  Jan 5, 2018 • 8:34:57am

re: #217 lawhawk

May they all freeze to death waiting for the bus that never comes.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 5, 2018 • 8:35:59am

re: #257 Sir John Barron

What the hell is Maggie talking about?

It’s her entry in the Maureen Dowd Essay Contest.

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Belafon  Jan 5, 2018 • 8:36:03am

re: #256 HappyWarrior

If he needed to be prodded to stand up to Bannon, Maggie, he’s weak and a bigger baby than I thought.

Trump is never wrong. I bet, up until the reports of the book came out, Trump was still listening to Bannon, because he always chooses the right people. Then Bannon turned on him.

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makeitstop  Jan 5, 2018 • 8:39:03am

re: #251 HappyWarrior

I do not for the life of me get the attempts to rewrite Breitbart. With all respect ot Rick who I actually like but Breitbart still tried to get Shirley Sherrod fired over a doctored type, he still shouted shit at protesters, he still was a hateful, coked up asshole. I feel bad his kids lost their father but he’s not missed in politics by a long shot. It would have been better if Andrew Breitbart had woke up one morning and realized he had been a shitty person and created a terrible thing and used his influence to fix that but he didn’t.

Breitbart was scum. The fact that conservatives point to him as some kind of higher standard only shows how low they’ve let the bar slip since Breitbart kicked the bucket.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 8:39:35am

re: #260 Belafon

Trump is never wrong. I bet, up until the reports of the book came out, Trump was still listening to Bannon, because he always chooses the right people. Then Bannon turned on him.

My access meant is yours. Trump loved Bannon until he found out Bannon thought he was a moron.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 8:39:49am

re: #261 makeitstop

Breitbart was scum. The fact that conservatives point to him as some kind of higher standard only shows how low they’ve let the bar slip since Breitbart kicked the bucket.

Word.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 5, 2018 • 8:40:42am

re: #242 Belafon

Any time someone says to you “that’s fake news” you can say “there’s a tape.” Watch them turn white.

Well, whit-ER. They’re already pretty much exclusively white.
//

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makeitstop  Jan 5, 2018 • 8:40:48am

re: #259 Decatur Deb

It’s her entry in the Maureen Dowd Essay Contest.

It’ll be featured in Chapter 10 of her upcoming book!

Or maybe Chapter 11. Heh.

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makeitstop  Jan 5, 2018 • 8:44:12am

I have to admit that every time I see a new Haberman tweet, I drop everything and click through to watch people line up to smack her down.

I hope Maggie is as miserable as everyone else in the Trump Cult. She deserves it.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 5, 2018 • 8:44:15am
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ObserverArt  Jan 5, 2018 • 8:44:45am

re: #259 Decatur Deb

It’s her entry in the Maureen Dowd Essay Contest.

It’s almost like Trump has something on her.

Did she sexually harass him at some point? /

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Sir John Barron  Jan 5, 2018 • 8:45:23am

re: #267 The Vicious Babushka

Fred Douglas is doing great things lately, everyone says so.

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Belafon  Jan 5, 2018 • 8:46:16am

re: #267 The Vicious Babushka

I have this odd feeling that, at a minimum, Douglass would have beaten Clarke for letting people die under his custody.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 5, 2018 • 8:47:20am

Interesting that Clarke has decided to be black again.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 5, 2018 • 8:48:37am

Kate Bush
Cyndi Lauper
Emi-Lou Harris
Linda Thompson
Jane Siberry

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 5, 2018 • 8:50:18am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 8:51:15am

re: #267 The Vicious Babushka

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Pretty rich to see the Sheriff who always whines about liberal protesters acting like he caers about free speech. FO with that shit Clarke.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 5, 2018 • 8:52:03am

Great piece on Trump from Josh Marshall. As Mrs. FBW says, Trump has a Mob Mentality. Mob as in THE Mob.

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 5, 2018 • 8:53:33am
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Jay C  Jan 5, 2018 • 8:53:42am

re: #267 The Vicious Babushka

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My God: for a “Tough-Guy Sheriff” David Clarke is such a whiny snowflake! And severely irony-impaired, too, apparently: griping about “the suppression of speech by the left” on a social-media forum quite noticeably free of any particular “suppression” of his nasty gibberings….

Of course, like most RWNJs, Clarke’s notion of “suppression of free speech by the left” is most likely to mean “contradicts my rants” or “calls me out on my BS”…..

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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 8:54:36am

re: #276 Ace-o-aces

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Yes, he did.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 8:55:44am

re: #277 Jay C

My God: for a “tough-guy Sheriff” David Clarke is such a whiny snowflake. And severely irony-impaired, too, apparently: griping about “the suppression of speech by the left” on a social-media forum quite noticeably free of any particular “suppression” of his nasty gibberings….

Of course, like most RWNJs, Clarke’s notion of “suppression of free speech by the left” is most likely to mean “contradicts my rants” or “calls me out on my BS”…..

You know maybe if Clarke spent more time being a sheriff rather than trying to become the new Joe Arapaio, he wouldn’t be viewed as such a shitty person. I had no idea who he was before 2016. I think most liberals didn’t either. He has an inflated view of himself.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 5, 2018 • 8:58:13am

if I had to pick five:
Aretha
Dolly Parton
k.d. lang
Grace Slick
Bonnie Riatt

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Sir John Barron  Jan 5, 2018 • 8:58:28am

re: #279 HappyWarrior

You know maybe if Clarke spent more time being a sheriff rather than trying to become the new Joe Arapaio, he wouldn’t be viewed as such a shitty person. I had no idea who he was before 2016. I think most liberals didn’t either. He has an inflated view of himself.

Is he still the sheriff there? For the sake of his county I hope not.

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 5, 2018 • 8:59:05am

Uh huh Paul, tell me again how 9/11 was an inside job and Sandy Hook never happened.

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Belafon  Jan 5, 2018 • 8:59:16am

re: #281 Sir John Barron

Is he still the sheriff there? For the sake of his county I hope not.

I don’t think he is. That’s why he was pushing that he was getting a job with Trump, to hopefully make it happen.

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ObserverArt  Jan 5, 2018 • 8:59:26am

re: #279 HappyWarrior

You know maybe if Clarke spent more time being a sheriff rather than trying to become the new Joe Arapaio, he wouldn’t be viewed as such a shitty person. I had no idea who he was before 2016. I think most liberals didn’t either. He has an inflated view of himself.

He is an attention sponge. I think he gets off on both good and bad comments and characterizations.

Twitter feeds the fool.

Good chance if he was ignored he would go away.

Social media makes these people. Before that they would be nothings and no one would know about them.

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mmmirele  Jan 5, 2018 • 8:59:27am

I have a friend who worked with Andy Breitbart way before Breitbart. And he still misses Andy. He’s no conservative, either. His Facebook is filled with snarky, cutting anti-Trump remarks. But you have no idea how many times I’ve given him the virtual side-eye when he talks about Breitbart the guy.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 5, 2018 • 9:00:22am

re: #282 Ace-o-aces

Comic’s Parody ‘Fire And Fury’ Excerpt On Trump Watching ‘Gorilla Channel’ Goes Viral, Libs Believe It’s Real informationliberation.com

— Paul Joseph Watson

Is there an English version of this tweet?

/

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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 9:01:14am

re: #281 Sir John Barron

Is he still the sheriff there? For the sake of his county I hope not.

Thankfully, he resigned but unfortunately for the rest of us, he has even more time on Twitter just like Trump.

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 5, 2018 • 9:01:28am

re: #281 Sir John Barron

Is he still the sheriff there? For the sake of his county I hope not.

1) No he’s not. Bailed when he realized he was going to loose the next election.

2)The Milwaukee Sheriff’s department is tiny. It’s has only about 200 officers and has very little actual law enforcement responsibilities. Mostly they run the jails and do process serving.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 9:02:17am

re: #286 Sir John Barron

Is there an English version of this tweet?

/

Watson’s claiming the gorilla excerpt was a joke. I don’t know. Haven’t seen the book but a guy who works for InfoWars has no room to mock people at all.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 9:02:53am

re: #288 Ace-o-aces

1) No he’s not. Bailed when he realized he was going to loose the next election.

2)The Milwaukee Sheriff’s department is tiny. It’s has only about 200 officers and has very little actual law enforcement responsibilities. Mostly they run the jails and do process serving.

Ahhh didn’t know that. So Clarke was a glorified jail administrator.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 5, 2018 • 9:03:21am

re: #289 HappyWarrior

Watson’s claiming the gorilla excerpt was a joke. I don’t know. Haven’t seen the book but a guy who works for InfoWars has no room to mock people at all.

The gorilla thing was a parody. The guy who wrote it was appalled that we’re at a point where so many people did believe it.

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makeitstop  Jan 5, 2018 • 9:03:58am

re: #275 Blind Frog Belly White

Great piece on Trump from Josh Marshall. As Mrs. FBW says, Trump has a Mob Mentality. Mob as in THE Mob.

And that’s why Mueller should employ RICO. Blow that wannabe mob all to hell, once and for all.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 9:04:58am

re: #291 Blind Frog Belly White

The gorilla thing was a parody. The guy who wrote it was appalled that we’re at a point where so many people did believe it.

Ahhh okay.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 5, 2018 • 9:05:11am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 9:05:20am

re: #292 makeitstop

And that’s why Mueller should employ RICO. Blow that wannabe mob all to hell, once and for all.

Ivanka should start designing her own jumpsuit.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 9:05:56am

re: #294 Backwoods_Sleuth

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What was the fourth one? HAdn’t heard about that. Knew about what happened with Pakistan, marijuana, and the drilling but not this.

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ObserverArt  Jan 5, 2018 • 9:05:57am

re: #292 makeitstop

And that’s why Mueller should employ RICO. Blow that wannabe mob all to hell, once and for all.

How about collusion and obstruction for The Big Don and RICO indictments for the family and some of the staff that really got into it and helped?

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Belafon  Jan 5, 2018 • 9:06:00am

re: #289 HappyWarrior

Watson’s claiming the gorilla excerpt was a joke. I don’t know. Haven’t seen the book but a guy who works for InfoWars has no room to mock people at all.

He made it up. He did a pretty good job of capturing what lots of people think of Trump, and so it did get passed around. It’s in the previous thread here.

I think it is a pretty good test. Trump’s pretty awful, and so people need to watch that they don’t accept everything put out. It will come back to bite you.

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 5, 2018 • 9:06:07am

re: #290 HappyWarrior

Ahhh didn’t know that. So Clarke was a glorified jail administrator.

And not a very good one.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 5, 2018 • 9:07:41am

re: #291 Blind Frog Belly White

The gorilla thing was a parody. The guy who wrote it was appalled that we’re at a point where so many people did believe it.

I don’t even know what this is.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 9:07:49am

re: #298 Belafon

He made it up. He did a pretty good job of capturing what lots of people think of Trump, and so it did get passed around. It’s in the previous thread here.

I think it is a pretty good test. Trump’s pretty awful, and so people need to watch that they don’t accept everything put out. It will come back to bite you.

I admit it, I did fall for it. But Watson who works for an organization that pushes that Sandy Hook was a hoax and Pizza Gate should shut his smug face.

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makeitstop  Jan 5, 2018 • 9:07:50am

re: #289 HappyWarrior

Watson’s claiming the gorilla excerpt was a joke. I don’t know. Haven’t seen the book but a guy who works for InfoWars has no room to mock people at all.

I posted it here last night because I thought it was hilarious.

It was put together by a guy who calls himself ‘Pixelated Boat,’ who teleskiguy says is a notorious troll.

Even PB himself pointed out that it was fake.

So Watson was trolled into thinking that we think it’s real.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 5, 2018 • 9:08:28am

re: #296 HappyWarrior

What was the fourth one? HAdn’t heard about that. Knew about what happened with Pakistan, marijuana, and the drilling but not this.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 9:08:35am

re: #300 Sir John Barron

I don’t even know what this is.

Basically, there was a joke that Trump wanted to watch nothing but Gorillas and thought there was a whole channel devoted to gorillas fighting and became enraged when he found out there was no such channel.

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 5, 2018 • 9:08:47am
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makeitstop  Jan 5, 2018 • 9:09:00am

re: #295 HappyWarrior

Ivanka should start designing her own jumpsuit.

She’d prolly just steal the existing design and put her label on it.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 9:09:12am

re: #302 makeitstop

I posted it here last night because I thought it was hilarious.

It was put together by a guy who calls himself ‘Pixelated Boat,’ who teleskiguy says is a notorious troll.

Even PB himself pointed out that it was fake.

So Watson was trolled into thinking that we think it’s real.

Which I honestly did but I didn’t really read the link. I probably would have realized it was meant ot be a joke immediately.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 9:09:46am

re: #305 Ace-o-aces

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Yep. He hates Bannon now sure but he loved him before just he did Comey and all the others.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 9:10:04am

re: #306 makeitstop

She’d prolly just steal the existing design and put her label on it.

She probably would!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 5, 2018 • 9:11:00am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 5, 2018 • 9:12:29am

thanks, trump!
//

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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 9:13:06am

re: #310 Backwoods_Sleuth

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New York, can you give our whole country Schneidermann when you’re done with him? He’s awesome. And I say this having a pretty damn good AG in Mark Herring here in Va but Eric is awesome.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 5, 2018 • 9:13:28am
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electrotek  Jan 5, 2018 • 9:13:51am

So what have I missed so far since last night?

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bill d. (b.d.)  Jan 5, 2018 • 9:13:59am

re: #282 Ace-o-aces

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Uh huh Paul, tell me again how 9/11 was an inside job and Sandy Hook never happened.

Screw you Infowars, I’m going to go full wingnut on this.

Prove to me that the Gorilla Channel thing is not real, I’ll be waiting in the pedophile pizza place for your answer.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 9:14:41am

re: #315 bill d. (b.d.)

Screw you Infowars, I’m going to go full wingnut on this.

Prove to me that the Gorilla Channel thing is not real, I’ll be waiting in the pedophile pizza place for your answer.

The basement of the pedo pizza place you mean and with Seth Rich’s body.

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makeitstop  Jan 5, 2018 • 9:15:37am

re: #313 Backwoods_Sleuth

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And she blabbed the (wrong) job numbers a day before they were announced.

‘…and your wise men don’t know how it feels
the be thick…as a brick’

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 5, 2018 • 9:16:08am
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bill d. (b.d.)  Jan 5, 2018 • 9:16:59am

re: #316 HappyWarrior

The basement of the pedo pizza place you mean and with Seth Rich’s body.

That’s it, Ill be having a FEMA Camp pizza with a Chemtrail chaser.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 5, 2018 • 9:17:23am

re: #311 Backwoods_Sleuth

It is the same disease that wiped out its predecessor. At least they are working to find a disease resistant variation.

More information on bananas in general:
en.wikipedia.org

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dangerman  Jan 5, 2018 • 9:17:53am

re: #311 Backwoods_Sleuth

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thanks, trump!
//

a fascinating book I read last year:
(goes to amazon)

Banana: The Fate of the Fruit that Changed the World

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 5, 2018 • 9:20:36am
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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 5, 2018 • 9:21:54am

re: #317 makeitstop

And she blabbed the (wrong) job numbers a day before they were announced.

‘…and your wise men don’t know how it feels
the be thick…as a brick’

I’m not an Ivanka fan but someone else here pointed out yesterday that Ivanka was quoting a widely published number developed from a different source.

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jeffreyw  Jan 5, 2018 • 9:24:58am

lawfareblog.com suggests, to me, that the notion they are investigating Trump for obstruction may be a smokescreen for the real investigation.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 5, 2018 • 9:25:56am

re: #261 makeitstop

Breitbart was scum. The fact that conservatives point to him as some kind of higher standard only shows how low they’ve let the bar slip since Breitbart kicked the bucket.

I’ve heard he had a heart attack, but that presupposes a heart. He really choked on bile.

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makeitstop  Jan 5, 2018 • 9:28:22am

re: #325 Barefoot Grin

I’ve heard he had a heart attack, but that presupposes a heart. He really choked on bile.

My guess was always many, many drugs.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 5, 2018 • 9:30:33am

Stress doesn’t cause you to talk like a fucking child.

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nines09  Jan 5, 2018 • 9:33:40am

re: #318 Backwoods_Sleuth

And this idiot Cory Gardner was assured that Jeffery would not do what Jeffery is doing. His first clue should have been, “Obama era ruling” and his second should have been he was told by a Republican. But Cory stood and voted for Trump every inch of the way. “I’m different”

Cory Schmuck Gardner

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 5, 2018 • 9:35:06am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 9:37:11am

re: #327 goddamnedfrank

Stress doesn’t cause you to talk like a fucking child.

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He has changed. He’s always been a pompous douche but he was a coherent pompous douche and I’m sorry but stress is no excuse to his behavior as potus.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 9:37:54am

re: #328 nines09

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And this idiot Cory Gardner was assured that Jeffery would not do what Jeffery is doing. His first clue should have been, “Obama era ruling” and his second should have been he was told by a Republican. But Cory stood and voted for Trump every inch of the way. “I’m different”

Cory Schmuck Gardner

You’re a moron Cory.

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ipsos  Jan 5, 2018 • 9:39:33am

re: #329 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yet another “if this had been the Obama or Clinton administrations using the FBI this way, there would be pitchforks and torches from the right” moment that instead becomes yet another shrug on the sad, sorry road downhill to authoritarianism.

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nines09  Jan 5, 2018 • 9:43:03am

re: #331 HappyWarrior

Cory is like a lot of Republican voters. It will never affect them. It’s the other guy. They voted to hurt you. Not them. They’re…special. I see them every fucking day.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 9:47:28am

re: #333 nines09

Cory is like a lot of Republican voters. It will never affect them. It’s the other guy. They voted to hurt you. Not them. They’re…special. I see them every fucking day.

Yep.

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makeitstop  Jan 5, 2018 • 9:48:37am

Everybody, say it with me now….

HMMMMMMMMMM…..

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ObserverArt  Jan 5, 2018 • 9:49:48am

re: #326 makeitstop

My guess was always many, many drugs.

The cocaine powder is notorious for being hard on the heart. And it can make some extremely irritable, paranoid and reckless.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 5, 2018 • 9:49:56am

re: #272 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Kate Bush
Cyndi Lauper
Emi-Lou Harris
Linda Thompson
Jane Siberry

Annie Lennox is a name I haven’t seen go by yet. Always loved her. Natalie Merchant is another name that would be on my list.

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Old Liberal  Jan 5, 2018 • 9:51:09am

re: #288 Ace-o-aces

1) No he’s not. Bailed when he realized he was going to loose the next election.

2)The Milwaukee Sheriff’s department is tiny. It’s has only about 200 officers and has very little actual law enforcement responsibilities. Mostly they run the jails and do process serving.

I believe David Clarke’s father was career military and a hyper disciplinarian. Some kids emulate that, some rebel. Clarke thinks that because he turned out so fine (in his opinion), that anyone can do it. Conservatives love minorities who tell minorities it is minorities own fault. I always laughed at how, when 1 out of 100 can achieve something, that instead of thinking “wow, what are the odds”, these libertarian dicks conclude “see, anyone can do it”. I don’t see how 1 in 100 proves anyone can do something. Indicates the opposite to me.

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makeitstop  Jan 5, 2018 • 9:51:11am

re: #336 ObserverArt

The cocoa powder is notorious for being hard on the heart. And it can make some extremely irritable, paranoid and reckless.

…and do things like yelling ‘Stop raping people’ at a peaceful demonstration.

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ObserverArt  Jan 5, 2018 • 9:56:15am

re: #337 Eventual Carrion

Annie Lennox is a name I haven’t seen go by yet. Always loved her. Natalie Merchant is another name that would be on my list.

I think Annie was mentioned by one lizard above.

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nines09  Jan 5, 2018 • 9:56:54am

Mick Jagger and Merry Clayton making vocals Gimme Shelter Rolling Stones. I remember first hearing that voice and the hairs on my neck stood up. Merry Clayton. Still makes me sit up and notice.

Mick Jagger and Merry Clayton making vocals Gimme Shelter Rolling Stones

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makeitstop  Jan 5, 2018 • 10:01:38am

re: #337 Eventual Carrion

Annie Lennox is a name I haven’t seen go by yet. Always loved her. Natalie Merchant is another name that would be on my list.

Fully agree on Annie.

Disagree on Natalie Merchant, though. Way too sleepy for my tastes.

Has anyone mentioned Johnette Napolitano from Concrete Blonde yet?

Concrete Blonde - Caroline

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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 10:03:05am

On the subject of women vocalists. I have only two Marianne Faithful songs- her cover as Tears Go By and of Angel and while I know 50 years is a long time, the difference in her voice is just so striking. Throwing another name out there but the Secret Sisters. I really enjoy their harmony. June Carter Cash too.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 5, 2018 • 10:07:30am

Oh LOL

This ‘Broken Digital Camera’ Was Quite a Bargain

Actually a film camera with a place to hold the film label
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makeitstop  Jan 5, 2018 • 10:08:02am

And while I’m thinking of female-led bands from LA - Susanna Hoffs is in there, too.

The Bangles - Hero Takes A Fall

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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 10:11:31am

Oh how could be so silly, The Ronettes and Crystals have to be on there for me. I love the early 60’s girl groups that Spector produced.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 5, 2018 • 10:12:08am

re: #344 Unshaken Defiance

Broken? OMG That is a good camera. I guess some folks do not understand how to work a 35 mm camera.

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makeitstop  Jan 5, 2018 • 10:14:31am

re: #347 PhillyPretzel

Broken? OMG That is a good camera. I guess some folks do not understand how to work a 35 mm camera.

I can believe that. Folks are used to pointing and shooting nowadays.

On a related note - I got some reel-to-reel tapes from a friend, live recordings from a band I was in back in ‘73.

I actually had to re-learn how to thread the reels on to the machine yesterday. It came back to me, eventually. :)

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makeitstop  Jan 5, 2018 • 10:18:55am

re: #343 HappyWarrior

On the subject of women vocalists. I have only two Marianne Faithful songs- her cover as Tears Go By and of Angel and while I know 50 years is a long time, the difference in her voice is just so striking. Throwing another name out there but the Secret Sisters. I really enjoy their harmony. June Carter Cash too.

This was Marianne’s comeback album from 1979. She nearly didn’t live long enough to make it. She had a hard life after the Sixties wore off.

Marianne Faithfull - Broken English 1979

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 5, 2018 • 10:21:07am

re: #311 Backwoods_Sleuth

This is what happens with monoculture. It’s not 5he first time a commercial banana has been wiped out.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 10:22:34am

re: #349 makeitstop

This was Marianne’s comeback album from 1979. She nearly didn’t live long enough to make it. She had a hard life after the Sixties wore off.

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Video

I didn’t know that. Damn. I loved her cover of As Tears Go By. In fact, I may like even more than Mick’s original.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 5, 2018 • 10:24:26am

re: #350 Colère Tueur de Lapin

You are correct and this is what I posted upthread:
littlegreenfootballs.com

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makeitstop  Jan 5, 2018 • 10:25:02am

re: #351 HappyWarrior

I didn’t know that. Damn. I loved her cover of As Tears Go By. In fact, I may like even more than Mick’s original.

She’s a survivor. She was strung out on heroin, lost her kid, was even homeless for a couple of years.

Still, she persisted. Gotta love her for that.

Hell, I’ll even forgive her for that…thing she did with Metallica. :)

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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 10:27:32am

re: #353 makeitstop

She’s a survivor. She was strung out on heroin, lost her kid, was even homeless for a couple of years.

Still, she persisted. Gotta love her for that.

Hell, I’ll even forgive her for that…thing she did with Metallica. :)

Damn I didn’t know that. For sure though. Anyhow, I know oyu know it but I’ll link it anyhow. Both are great and at totally different points of her life. Props to her for continuing to sing.

Marianne Faithfull ~ As Tears Go By (1964)

Angel

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 5, 2018 • 10:29:16am
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goddamnedfrank  Jan 5, 2018 • 10:29:37am
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ObserverArt  Jan 5, 2018 • 10:31:29am

re: #345 makeitstop

And while I’m thinking of female-led bands from LA - Susanna Hoffs is in there, too.

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Be still my heart!

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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 10:31:40am

re: #356 goddamnedfrank

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Ha! She’s good.

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makeitstop  Jan 5, 2018 • 10:33:30am

re: #357 ObserverArt

Be still my heart!

I love those early videos of them. They glammed up pretty good by the time they did ‘Walk Like and Egyptian’ and the Prince tune, but before the image, they could play.

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lawhawk  Jan 5, 2018 • 10:35:01am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 10:36:21am

re: #360 lawhawk

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The RNC needs to burn.

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jaunte  Jan 5, 2018 • 10:36:54am

re: #360 lawhawk

[Can’t find this tweet right now: twitter.com ]

Inconsistency is their most cherished principle.

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jaunte  Jan 5, 2018 • 10:37:14am

Try that again.

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Interesting Times  Jan 5, 2018 • 10:38:06am

re: #361 HappyWarrior

The RNC needs to burn.

I wish someone else (like, some Anonymous splinter group) could get a hold of all their hacked emails and release them into the wild. The Russia-has-blackmail-material theory is the only one that explains why ALL of them have fallen into line protecting and enabling Cheeto Benito.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 5, 2018 • 10:38:12am

LOL shit just went plaid.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 5, 2018 • 10:38:20am

re: #153 darthstar

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How could Republicans impeach Trump if they get wiped out in 2018? That doesn’t even make any sense. They wouldn’t be in control of Congress if they’re wiped out in November so they won’t be in a position to impeach anyone.

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BlueSpotinAL  Jan 5, 2018 • 10:38:31am

re: #323 Hecuba’s daughter

I’m not an Ivanka fan but someone else here pointed out yesterday that Ivanka was quoting a widely published number developed from a different source.

See later post - the first part of the speculation below is not necessarily right. The second part about literacy - I bet it is still true.

I suspect Ivanka and Donald are using the number reported in December for jobs gained in November, because the Trumps are just that economically illiterate.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 10:38:46am

re: #363 jaunte

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Try that again.

It’s almost like the President’s skin color and party matters more.

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jaunte  Jan 5, 2018 • 10:39:28am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 10:39:33am

re: #367 BlueSpotinAL

I suspect Ivanka and Donald are using the number reported in December for jobs gained in November, because the Trumps are just that economically illiterate.

It really does astound me how stupid they are. I mean I thought Bush was dumb but Trump and his cronies are DUMB.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 5, 2018 • 10:39:43am

re: #364 Interesting Times

He is a bully and they are afraid of him and his temper. They are also afraid of what he will tweet about them.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 10:42:40am

re: #364 Interesting Times

I wish someone else (like, some Anonymous splinter group) could get a hold of all their hacked emails and release them into the wild. The Russia-has-blackmail-material theory is the only one that explains why ALL of them have fallen into line protecting and enabling Cheeto Benito.

What I’d love to see is emails released of them talking crap about Trump.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 10:43:05am

re: #371 PhillyPretzel

He is a bully and they are afraid of him and his temper. They are also afraid of what he will tweet about them.

They’re also afraid of that base of racist assholes they’ve created turning on them.

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DodgerFan1988  Jan 5, 2018 • 10:44:30am

re: #365 goddamnedfrank

LOL shit just went plaid.

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This reminds me a few years ago during the rash of police shooting of unarmed black people caught on video, the Republicans wanted a law that would make it illegal to film the police.

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nines09  Jan 5, 2018 • 10:44:38am

re: #369 jaunte

Think of the dirt they have on Lindsey.

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jaunte  Jan 5, 2018 • 10:46:03am
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lawhawk  Jan 5, 2018 • 10:48:25am

re: #376 jaunte

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Sir John Barron  Jan 5, 2018 • 10:48:44am

re: #376 jaunte

The “moderate” Republicans in Congress aren’t going to save us.

They will have to be defeated at the ballot box.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 10:50:01am

I hope Steele exposes the GOP establishment that hired him originally.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 5, 2018 • 10:50:03am

re: #377 lawhawk

I hope they’re getting well paid for prostituting themselves like this.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 10:50:13am

re: #378 Sir John Barron

The “moderate” Republicans in Congress aren’t going to save us.

They will have to be defeated at the ballot box.

Every last one of them.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 5, 2018 • 10:51:13am

re: #366 Patricia Kayden

How could Republicans impeach Trump if they get wiped out in 2018? That doesn’t even make any sense. They wouldn’t be in control of Congress if they’re wiped out in November so they won’t be in a position to impeach anyone.

No matter how bad November is for the GOP, it won’t be bad enough for the Democrats to get 67 Senate seats, so some Republican Senators would have to vote for conviction to remove Trump from office.

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BlueSpotinAL  Jan 5, 2018 • 10:51:53am

re: #367 BlueSpotinAL

I suspect Ivanka and Donald are using the number reported in December for jobs gained in November, because the Trumps are just that economically illiterate.

ADP numbers,

forexlive.com

or initial jobless claims (same number, no link, sorry)

Whereas the one most closely followed is
USD Change in Non-farm Payrolls (DEC), at a measly 148k.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jan 5, 2018 • 10:51:59am

the high pressure region created by the distinct possibility that the gop will lose the house in the midterms forecasts increasingly vile vile i mean violent shitstorms for the next ten months to a year, with persistent benghazis and lewinskis in spots

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 5, 2018 • 10:53:16am

re: #367 BlueSpotinAL

I suspect Ivanka and Donald are using the number reported in December for jobs gained in November, because the Trumps are just that economically illiterate.

No, Ivanka was repeating the jobs number reported by ADP, which releases a monthly report on private sector job creation every month before the Bureau’s report.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 5, 2018 • 10:53:19am

Off topic not really off topic, watching the 1962 version of The Manchurian Candidate, and it’s actually alarmingly prescient.

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Belafon  Jan 5, 2018 • 10:53:48am

re: #382 Big Beautiful Door

No matter how bad November is for the GOP, it won’t be bad enough for the Democrats to get 67 Senate seats, so some Republican Senators would have to vote for conviction to remove Trump from office.

Yep, there are only 9 Republicans up for reelection.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 10:54:03am

re: #386 Sir John Barron

Off topic not really off topic, watching the 1962 version of The Manchurian Candidate, and it’s actually alarmingly prescient.

Such a great movie.

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nines09  Jan 5, 2018 • 10:54:21am

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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 5, 2018 • 10:55:03am

re: #59 Dave In Austin

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allegro  Jan 5, 2018 • 10:55:18am

Having finally caught up with the thread I am astonished, even shocked! that not one person noted one of the greatest female rock vocalists of all time: Janis Joplin.

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plansbandc  Jan 5, 2018 • 10:55:21am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 5, 2018 • 10:55:25am

re: #375 nines09

Think of the dirt they have on Lindsey.

Just think: it has to be much worse than what we already imagine about him.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 5, 2018 • 10:55:26am

re: #367 BlueSpotinAL

I suspect Ivanka and Donald are using the number reported in December for jobs gained in November, because the Trumps are just that economically illiterate.

They were using a December number developed from another source: reuters.com

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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 10:55:41am

re: #389 nines09

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Next you’ll tell me we’ll have Banh-Mi BMWs.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 5, 2018 • 10:55:46am

re: #389 nines09

And that would be a bad thing. I guess Jeff Sessions has never heard of Amsterdam and their “coffee shops.”

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makeitstop  Jan 5, 2018 • 10:56:22am

re: #365 goddamnedfrank

LOL shit just went plaid.

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You gotta be kidding me.

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jaunte  Jan 5, 2018 • 10:56:30am

re: #396 PhillyPretzel

Nobody goes there any more, its too crowded.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 5, 2018 • 10:57:00am

re: #382 Big Beautiful Door

No matter how bad November is for the GOP, it won’t be bad enough for the Democrats to get 67 Senate seats, so some Republican Senators would have to vote for conviction to remove Trump from office.

And that will never happen. Sigh.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 10:57:13am

re: #396 PhillyPretzel

And that would be a bad thing. I guess Jeff Sessions has never heard of Amsterdam and their “coffee shops.”

Sessions remember is the guy who had a problem with the KKK because he heard some of them smoked pot not the whole racist asshole thing.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 5, 2018 • 10:57:37am

re: #388 HappyWarrior

Such a great movie.

More interesting plot than the 2004 remake (although I liked that one, too, and the great cast, Denzel, etc).

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nines09  Jan 5, 2018 • 10:57:49am

re: #395 HappyWarrior

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 5, 2018 • 10:57:57am

re: #400 HappyWarrior

Yes. Very ignorant.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 5, 2018 • 10:58:31am

re: #393 Backwoods_Sleuth

Just think: it has to be much worse than what we already imagine about him.

Not necessarily worse —- Lindsey’s voters may be totally unaware of the widespread speculation about him and he knows that it will be the kiss of death to his career, given the state he represents.

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makeitstop  Jan 5, 2018 • 10:59:46am

It might just be a PR stunt according to Natasha.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 11:01:04am

re: #401 Sir John Barron

More interesting plot than the 2004 remake (although I liked that one, too, and the great cast, Denzel, etc).

Haven’t seen the remake yet. It was funny. Mom was talking how much she loves the movie but she forgot the title so she was instead talking about how much she loved Clockwork Orange. I enjoyed the movie. IT erally holds up well.

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nines09  Jan 5, 2018 • 11:01:18am

re: #393 Backwoods_Sleuth

Just think: it has to be much worse than what we already imagine about him.

I personally don’t give a rats ass if he rolls in dog shit and bays at the moon. But when he attacks people who roll in..

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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 11:01:32am

re: #405 makeitstop

It might just be a PR stunt according to Natasha.

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All the mor epathetic then and just a movie to get on Douche Orange’s good side.

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jaunte  Jan 5, 2018 • 11:01:59am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 11:02:17am

re: #402 nines09

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Whoa whoa Doner and Weed?!!? :)

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Weaselone  Jan 5, 2018 • 11:02:38am

Just out of curiosity, could Democrats return the favor on this little PR stunt? Could 2 Democrats for example send a criminal referral to the FBI to investigate Sessions for lying under oath?

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nines09  Jan 5, 2018 • 11:03:37am

re: #410 HappyWarrior

and fresh pita…

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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 11:04:51am

re: #412 nines09

and fresh pita…

Yes! I went to Cava for lunch the other day. If oyu guys don’t know it’s Chipolte style but with Mediterranean food. Took my Dad whom to his credit is open minded about trying new food and he enjoyed it.

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gocart mozart  Jan 5, 2018 • 11:05:10am
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nines09  Jan 5, 2018 • 11:06:02am

re: #414 gocart mozart

“My Son’s Dead Dog”.

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jaunte  Jan 5, 2018 • 11:07:31am
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BeachDem  Jan 5, 2018 • 11:08:05am

re: #404 Hecuba’s daughter

Not necessarily worse —- Lindsey’s voters may be totally unaware of the widespread speculation about him and he knows that it will be the kiss of death to his career, given the state he represents.

As a resident of Lindsey’s state, I can say, in my experience, voters are totally aware of the speculation about him, and he still defeated all of his loony way-right challengers in his last primary—didn’t even have to face a runoff. And that was in 2014, so he’s not up again till 2020.

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gocart mozart  Jan 5, 2018 • 11:09:47am
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gocart mozart  Jan 5, 2018 • 11:11:41am
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Dr Lizardo  Jan 5, 2018 • 11:11:55am

re: #409 jaunte

Sounds to me like the GOP leadership has decided to go down with the ship.

Party loyalty means more than anything else.

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jaunte  Jan 5, 2018 • 11:12:20am

Drew Magary:

“…Wolff has spent this week thoroughly exploiting Trump and his minions the same way they’ve exploited the cluelessness of others. And he pulled it off because, at long last, there was a reporter out there willing to toss decorum aside and burn bridges the same way Trump does.

Everyone around Donald Trump is too polite to Donald Trump. Democrats, foreign dignitaries, underlings… all of them. And the White House press is perhaps the worst offender. From the media pool playing along with Sarah Sanders during press conferences—conferences where Sanders openly lies and pisses on democracy—to access merchants like Maggie Haberman doling out Trump gossip like so many bread crumbs, too many reporters have been far too deferential to an administration that is brazenly racist, dysfunctional, and corrupt. And for what purpose? It’s clear to me that Haberman and the like aren’t saving up their chits for just the EXACT right time to bring this Administration down. No, the only end goal of their access is continued access, to preserve it indefinitely so that the copy spigot never gets shut off. They are abiding by traditional wink-wink understandings that have long existed between the government and the press covering it.

But Wolff didn’t do that. He did not engage in some endless bullshit access tango. No, Wolff actually USED his access, and extended zero courtesy to Trump on the process, and it’s going to pay off for him not just from a book sales standpoint, but from a real journalistic impact.”
gq.com

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gocart mozart  Jan 5, 2018 • 11:12:50am
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nines09  Jan 5, 2018 • 11:13:15am

re: #420 Dr Lizardo

Sounds to me like the GOP leadership has decided to go down with the ship.

Party loyalty means more than anything else.

They have gotten away with murder. They’re going for genocide now.

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gocart mozart  Jan 5, 2018 • 11:13:39am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 5, 2018 • 11:14:21am

re: #396 PhillyPretzel

And that would be a bad thing. I guess Jeff Sessions has never heard of Amsterdam and their “coffee shops.”

We all know what a socialist Islamicist hellhole that country is…

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Jay C  Jan 5, 2018 • 11:14:23am

re: #366 Patricia Kayden

How could Republicans impeach Trump if they get wiped out in 2018? That doesn’t even make any sense. They wouldn’t be in control of Congress if they’re wiped out in November so they won’t be in a position to impeach anyone.

I think the inference here is that if the Republicans suffer bad-enough losses in this year’s midterms (and sorry, that “wiped out” notion is - to be polite - wishful thinking: however bad the potential GOP losses might be, the Democrats will likely have nowhere near a supermajority),
they will turn on The Donald as the source of their electoral woes, and be more amenable to going along with a Dem-sponsored impeachment move.

Of course, one can imagine how the Moron-in-Chief would react to having an Opposition Congress: even assuming he’s still in the WH, I’m guessing that the final two years of Dolt 45’s Administration would be little than a constant stream of fulminating blame-shifting,
angry vetoes, incoherent tweeting, and more Fascist-style “rallies” to keep his redneck “base” in a constant froth. Yeah, fun times ahead…
(but we have to get through the midterms first)

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 5, 2018 • 11:14:56am

Urban Dictionary: “Sloppy Steve”

NSFW. You are warned.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 11:14:58am

re: #414 gocart mozart

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Please stop trying to be funny, Mike. You’re about as funny as FNC’s attempt at the Daily Show.

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Old Liberal  Jan 5, 2018 • 11:16:13am

re: #425 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We all know what a socialist Islamicist hellhole that country is…

Full of no-go zones per our Ambassador Fake News Hookstra

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Sir John Barron  Jan 5, 2018 • 11:17:27am

re: #428 HappyWarrior

Please stop trying to be funny, Mike. You’re about as funny as FNC’s attempt at the Daily Show.

I’d call him a sellout, but I’m sure Mike’s prostituting himself for free.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 11:19:14am

re: #430 Sir John Barron

I’d call him a sellout, but I’m sure Mike’s prostituting himself for free.

Trump got a two for one with the Huckabees. Seriously his attempts at humor are worse than Dad humor. They’re Evangelical Dad humor.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 5, 2018 • 11:21:11am
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wrenchwench  Jan 5, 2018 • 11:22:26am

re: #432 Charles Johnson

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I think this is a carefully hidden compliment.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 11:23:49am

re: #432 Charles Johnson

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I’d be honored. Really this dude writes for InfoWars. That’s all you need to do know about Watson and his crew. Your website literally pushed Sandy HOok conspiracy bullshit. I’d rather be one of your hated SJWs any day than a fucking punk ass who pushed Sandy HOok conspiracies and is linked to the hip with Alex Jones, a crazy piece of shit.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 5, 2018 • 11:23:50am

Interesting discussion in this thread.

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makeitstop  Jan 5, 2018 • 11:24:12am

Natasha is on this. She’s such a good reporter, we need more like her.

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ObserverArt  Jan 5, 2018 • 11:25:02am

re: #365 goddamnedfrank

LOL shit just went plaid.

[Embedded content]

Why those low-down, dirty, sleazy Republican assholes.

Fuck Grassley and Graham.

Gonna have to drop a contact form email on Robby Portman and McConnell and let both those asses how dirty this all is.

We have to make Republicans pay. They are all colluding and obstructing now.

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Skip Intro  Jan 5, 2018 • 11:28:01am

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Skip Intro  Jan 5, 2018 • 11:29:40am

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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 11:29:45am

re: #438 Skip Intro

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The stories about how his aides have to constantly praise him and only tell him positive stories are something out of a tinpot dictatorship.

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Weaselone  Jan 5, 2018 • 11:29:54am

re: #435 goddamnedfrank

The most “interesting” thing I’ve observed is that at least some of what’s in Wolff’s book appears to have been known by sundry journalists. They just never bothered to tell the rest of us for some reason.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 5, 2018 • 11:30:14am

The book is absolutely brutal. Here is an excerpt about Paul Ryan and Tom Price trying to discuss healthcare reform with Trump:

The two men summed up for Trump — who kept wandering off topic and trying to turn the conversation to golf — seven years of Republican legislative thinking about Obamacare and the Republican alternatives. Here was a perfect example of an essential Trump paradigm: he acceded to anyone who seemed to know more about any issue he didn’t care about, or simply one whose details he couldn’t bring himself to focus on closely. Great! he would say, punctuating every statement with a similar exclamation and regularly making an effort to jump from his chair.

vox.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 5, 2018 • 11:31:34am

re: #441 Weaselone

The most “interesting” thing I’ve observed is that at least some of what’s in Wolff’s book appears to have been known by sundry journalists. They just never bothered to tell the rest of us for some reason.

This is again, the journalistic version of Jerry Hall finding out about Mick Jagger’s dalliances after he knocks up a Brazilian fashion model…at that point, she can no longer ignore the obvious.

Have we reached the point that the media will have the balls to do their job and start reporting on Trump and not accommodating him?

I guess that depends on their business model.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 11:31:36am

re: #442 Big Beautiful Door

The book is absolutely brutal. Here is an excerpt about Paul Ryan and Tom Price trying to discuss healthcare reform with Trump:

vox.com

Puny Paul Ryan and Timid Tom Price who I never liked! //

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 5, 2018 • 11:32:39am

re: #435 goddamnedfrank

Interesting discussion in this thread.

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My takeaway from this is that Wolff was able to distinguish himself from the likes of Haberman and Thrush by virtue of holding back and publishing everything he got at once, in book form. That’s what allowed him to avoid necessitating his access to continued, grotesque acts of public cheerleading and gutless equivocation.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 5, 2018 • 11:36:31am

re: #442 Big Beautiful Door

The book is absolutely brutal. Here is an excerpt about Paul Ryan and Tom Price trying to discuss healthcare reform with Trump:

vox.com

We’ve known since forever now that Trumpy doesn’t know anything about legislation or policy but the NYT scribes and the like have failed to press him on details.

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BeachDem  Jan 5, 2018 • 11:38:21am

re: #437 ObserverArt

Why those low-down, dirty, sleazy Republican assholes.

Fuck Grassley and Graham.

Gonna have to drop a contact form email on Robby Portman and McConnell and let both those asses how dirty this all is.

We have to make Republicans pay. They are all colluding and obstructing now.

Just saw that Mandel has dropped out of the Senate race, citing wife’s health. Of course, one of the right-wing nuts said he was a “lock” to replace Sherrod Brown and that they now have to find a suitable replacement—oh, it was a tweeter called @jewishright, and he has a Pepe in his tweet, so there’s that…

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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 11:41:04am

re: #447 BeachDem

Just saw that Mandel has dropped out of the Senate race, citing wife’s health. Of course, one of the right-wing nuts said he was a “lock” to replace Sherrod Brown and that they now have to find a suitable replacement—oh, it was a tweeter called @jewishright, and he has a Pepe in his tweet, so there’s that…

Didn’t Brown already beat Mandel pretty easily? And this would be a very favorable Democratic year.

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BeachDem  Jan 5, 2018 • 11:41:47am

re: #445 goddamnedfrank

My takeaway from this is that Wolff was able to distinguish himself from the likes of Haberman and Thrush by virtue of holding back and publishing everything he got at once, in book form. That’s what allowed him to avoid necessitating his access to continued, grotesque acts of public cheerleading and gutless equivocation.

And Maggie and Glenn are probably doubly pissed because it’s going to take all the shine off their upcoming “palace intrigue/romance/thriller.”

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makeitstop  Jan 5, 2018 • 11:42:45am

re: #449 BeachDem

And Maggie and Glenn are probably doubly pissed because it’s going to take all the shine off their upcoming “palace intrigue/romance/thriller.”

Or as I’ve taken to calling it, their ‘kiss-ass-and-tell.’

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I cannot.  Jan 5, 2018 • 11:44:30am

So update on Twitter Drama, the user 50CalVal was reported…and has been SUSPENDED

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Weaselone  Jan 5, 2018 • 11:45:37am

re: #450 makeitstop

Or as I’ve taken to calling it, their ‘kiss-ass-and-tell.’

They seem to kiss plenty of ass, but based on past performance, it’s unlikely they’ll tell the reader much of anything useful.

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BeachDem  Jan 5, 2018 • 11:46:01am

re: #448 HappyWarrior

Didn’t Brown already beat Mandel pretty easily? And this would be a very favorable Democratic year.

Well, he beat him by 6 points, but he should have won by about 20 points if the people of Ohio hadn’t lost their frigging minds. (I say that as a 30-year Ohio resident who then moved to always insane SC)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 5, 2018 • 11:47:01am

re: #424 gocart mozart

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they pretty much told @jack to póg mo thóin…

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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 11:49:43am

re: #454 Backwoods_Sleuth

they pretty much told @jack to póg mo thóin…

Love that as a Pogues fan.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 11:50:05am

re: #453 BeachDem

Well, he beat him by 6 points, but he should have won by about 20 points if the people of Ohio hadn’t lost their frigging minds. (I say that as a 30-year Ohio resident who then moved to always insane SC)

Oh ok.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 5, 2018 • 11:55:34am

Forgive my ignorance but who are the Pogues?

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makeitstop  Jan 5, 2018 • 11:56:23am

Jared Kushner, come on down! You too, Beavis.

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nines09  Jan 5, 2018 • 11:57:11am

re: #457 Eclectic Cyborg

These guys

Fairytale of New York by the pogues lyrics

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 5, 2018 • 11:57:34am

re: #457 Eclectic Cyborg

I would like to know too.

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makeitstop  Jan 5, 2018 • 11:57:40am

re: #457 Eclectic Cyborg

Forgive my ignorance but who are the Pogues?

Only the band responsible for the one true modern Christmas classic.

The Pogues Featuring Kirsty MacColl - Fairytale Of New York (Official Video)

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makeitstop  Jan 5, 2018 • 11:58:08am

re: #459 nines09

These guys

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Damn it, ya beat me.

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nines09  Jan 5, 2018 • 11:59:38am

re: #462 makeitstop

THAT is the Pogues. They just liked a reply from me on twitter. Me an mine and yers too.

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makeitstop  Jan 5, 2018 • 12:00:54pm

LOL

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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 12:01:21pm

re: #463 nines09

THAT is the Pogues. They just liked a reply from me on twitter. Me an mine and yers too.

I’m totally jealous. I love the Pogues.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 5, 2018 • 12:02:53pm

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nines09  Jan 5, 2018 • 12:03:47pm

re: #466 Joe Bacon 🌹

Should be a mangy hyena pissing on the plant.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 12:04:28pm

re: #464 makeitstop

LOL

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I rewatched Serkis on Colbert. Doesn’t get old. It has to kill Trump that he’s not respected at all and seen as a joke.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 12:06:28pm

The Pogues - DIRTY OLD TOWN HD

My cousin’s little girl knew this one by the time she was five.

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makeitstop  Jan 5, 2018 • 12:07:13pm

re: #465 HappyWarrior

I’m totally jealous. I love the Pogues.

I was lucky enough to have been at this show on 3/14/09. Caught Shane in a good mood.

They were rolling the drunks out on hand trucks that night. One for the books, it was.

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nines09  Jan 5, 2018 • 12:08:04pm

re: #470 HappyWarrior

With faces only mothers could love.

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gocart mozart  Jan 5, 2018 • 12:08:26pm

So, this guy running against some congressman/Russian spy just followed me for some reason.

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ObserverArt  Jan 5, 2018 • 12:09:03pm

I didn’t watch The Today Show today, so I did not see this interview with Michael Wolff. So maybe we can all watch it together.

Also, I see the interview is already leading to complaints that Wolff wasn’t straight up with The White House. See link to a WaPo story and a couple paragraphs that begin the story.

What a mess this all is.

Iframe

And the link to the WaPo story…

WaPo - Trump book author Michael Wolff made a damaging admission on the ‘Today’ show

Author Michael Wolff bolstered President Trump’s effort to discredit the new book “Fire and Fury” on Friday when he acknowledged in a “Today” show interview that he had been willing to say whatever was “necessary” to gain access at the White House.

Wolff’s admission does not directly undermine the veracity of his reporting, but it creates the appearance that he might have approached some members of the president’s team under false pretenses, leading sources to believe that when they opened up they were speaking to a sympathetic ear. That’s a bad look — one which the White House can use to impugn Wolff’s integrity and, perhaps unfairly, cast doubt on whichever elements of his work the president doesn’t like.

- - -

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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 12:09:03pm

re: #472 nines09

With faces only mothers could love.

Heh that’s part of the appeal. That’s why I love Shane’s voice. He’s not trained at all. I do like how they combine Irish folk and punk, two of my favorite genres.

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nines09  Jan 5, 2018 • 12:09:28pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 12:10:22pm

re: #476 nines09

What took so long?

I got some of that last year. I’ts good whiskey.

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jaunte  Jan 5, 2018 • 12:10:23pm

re: #474 ObserverArt

“I thought he would be a sympathetic ear, so I accidentally told him the truth.”

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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 12:11:13pm

Shrug not really bothered by Wolff not showing writer’s ethics when this WH has been criminal.

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gocart mozart  Jan 5, 2018 • 12:11:38pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 5, 2018 • 12:12:59pm

re: #480 gocart mozart

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I love love this message by his holiness. I’m not sure if I’d still be a Catholic if he were Pope when I was growing up but I’d gone to a lot more masses. This is a good message.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 5, 2018 • 12:20:32pm

re: #474 ObserverArt

I didn’t watch The Today Show today, so I did not see this interview with Michael Wolff. So maybe we can all watch it together.

Also, I see the interview is already leading to complaints that Wolff wasn’t straight up with The White House. See link to a WaPo story and a couple paragraphs that begin the story.

What a mess this all is.

[Embedded content]

And the link to the WaPo story…

WaPo - Trump book author Michael Wolff made a damaging admission on the ‘Today’ show

Of course O’Keefe is a right wing hero for being much more duplicitous.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 5, 2018 • 12:21:17pm

re: #474 ObserverArt

So this is like Manafort’s lawsuit against Mueller - rather than try to defend by asserting the accusations are false, they defend by asserting that Wolff or Mueller shouldn’t have been able to find out.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 5, 2018 • 12:35:53pm

re: #457 Eclectic Cyborg

Forgive my ignorance but who are the Pogues?

We performed their Fairytale of New York for our Christmas concert for the homeless in Frankfurt this year

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 5, 2018 • 12:36:38pm

re: #459 nines09

you beat me
they were the hottest thing on market at the turn of the 90’s: Irish folk punk

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 5, 2018 • 2:29:41pm

re: #469 gocart mozart

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these guys were all the rage at the turn of the 90’s: Irish folk punk. Played in a band that emulated their style, but not quite as drunken

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Pineapple Pizzagate  Jan 5, 2018 • 7:47:20pm

re: #472 nines09

With faces only mothers could love.

Someone once told me i looked like Shane McGowran, but that was when i was more attractive.


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