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austin_blue  Jan 8, 2018 • 9:16:35pm

Nice!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 8, 2018 • 9:17:33pm

I had to remind Sarah of the song that Dolt 45 knows the words to…

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 8, 2018 • 9:24:49pm
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darthstar  Jan 8, 2018 • 9:28:28pm
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Ace-o-aces  Jan 8, 2018 • 9:31:50pm
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Kragar  Jan 8, 2018 • 9:31:57pm

re: #4 darthstar

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darthstar  Jan 8, 2018 • 9:33:33pm
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Ace-o-aces  Jan 8, 2018 • 9:35:33pm
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darthstar  Jan 8, 2018 • 9:38:55pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 8, 2018 • 9:55:24pm

re: #8 Ace-o-aces

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You never cared when Obama did it nor did you care when Trump belittled the military on the campaign trail.

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 8, 2018 • 9:55:58pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 8, 2018 • 9:57:27pm

Trump is sorely mistaken if he thinks Kim wouldn’t jump at the chance to play victim should the U.S. a launch a (nuclear or otherwise) pre-emptive strike.

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darthstar  Jan 8, 2018 • 9:59:44pm
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DodgerFan1988  Jan 8, 2018 • 9:59:46pm

Captain America doing what he does best, taking on Hydra.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jan 8, 2018 • 10:00:43pm

re: #13 darthstar

*shiver*

…Dr Oz…

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HappyWarrior  Jan 8, 2018 • 10:02:40pm

re: #11 Ace-o-aces

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You know, every other presidential nominee by a major party I would trust not to use nukes as play things. Trump broke that and the Trumpers don’t care.

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Kragar  Jan 8, 2018 • 10:04:28pm

re: #8 Ace-o-aces

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Kragar  Jan 8, 2018 • 10:09:20pm
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wheat-dogg  Jan 9, 2018 • 12:05:43am
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Single-handed sailor  Jan 9, 2018 • 12:20:55am

Have you ever had the misfortune to have a gin and tonic made With Canada Dry?!

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wheat-dogg  Jan 9, 2018 • 12:46:07am

re: #22 Single-handed sailor

Have you ever had the misfortune to have a gin and tonic made With Canada Dry?!

Thankfully, no. The mere idea revolts me.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 9, 2018 • 1:47:54am

G&T is for those summer days when it is too hot to enjoy a cold beer.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 9, 2018 • 2:00:13am

If the Fed raises interest rates, we could see another inflationary period, if I remember my economics correctly.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 9, 2018 • 2:01:01am

re: #24 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

G&T is for those summer days when it is too hot to enjoy a cold beer.

That’s what Long Island Iced Tea is for. Or a nice margarita.
Or two.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 2:01:20am

re: #25 wheat-dogg

Guess Mr. I take credit only for good economic news will ignore this.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 9, 2018 • 2:08:34am

re: #2 Joe Bacon 🌹

I had to remind Sarah of the song that Dolt 45 knows the words to…

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At that point he may have known the lyrics to the National Anthem. It’s possible that dementia may have robbed him of that memory — or maybe he really hasn’t sung it since he was a child and has totally forgotten them.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 9, 2018 • 2:12:52am

re: #28 Hecuba’s daughter

At that point he may have known the lyrics to the National Anthem. It’s possible that dementia may have robbed him of that memory — or maybe he really hasn’t sung it since he was a child and has totally forgotten them.

A guy who attended a military academy would have had it drummed into his head.

Heck, I taught only a year at a South African high school and I can sing the first part of the national anthem (in isiZulu) because we sang it Every. Single. Morning.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 9, 2018 • 2:13:38am

re: #27 HappyWarrior

Guess Mr. I take credit only for good economic news will ignore this.

Of course. Or he will blame it on Obama, and pledge to Make the Dollar Great Again!!

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 2:16:27am

re: #30 wheat-dogg

Of course. Or he will blame it on Obama, and pledge to Make the Dollar Great Again!!

I’m just sick of how he has totally gotten away with trashing the state of the economy last year but now it’s great and it’s all due to him. And his cult buys this.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 2:19:16am

I can tell you this much. If it had appeared Obama didn’t know the lyrics, we’d be hearing about it nonstop from FNC. It’s honestly down on my list of concerns but this is someone who accuses people of not “respecting” the anthemvso I feel free to ridicule.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 9, 2018 • 2:19:18am

re: #28 Hecuba’s daughter

At that point he may have known the lyrics to the National Anthem. It’s possible that dementia may have robbed him of that memory — or maybe he really hasn’t sung it since he was a child and has totally forgotten them.

There are two points and only two points that I bring up whenever the topic of the relative merits of President Trump comes up: that he has no record of public service and that he does not seem to have the character befitting the office.

I do not go into details beyond that: for supporters, that lack of experience and his character traits are seen as a plus, and rest of the world is aware of his blatant conflicts of interest and his enormous character flaws.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 9, 2018 • 2:20:27am

re: #31 HappyWarrior

I’m just sick of how he has totally gotten away with trashing the state of the economy last year but now it’s great and it’s all due to him. And his cult buys this.

Well, Manson’s followers bought into “Helter Skelter”, so……

Yeah, the Trumpites are certainly a cult - a political cult, much like the followers of Lyndon LaRouche.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 2:22:59am

re: #34 Dr Lizardo

Well, Manson’s followers bought into “Helter Skelter”, so……

Yeah, the Trumpites are certainly a cult - a political cult, much like the followers of Lyndon LaRouche.

Yeah they’re definitely a political cult. They’re what they accused Obama supporters of being.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 9, 2018 • 2:24:35am

re: #34 Dr Lizardo

Well, Manson’s followers bought into “Helter Skelter”, so……

Yeah, the Trumpites are certainly a cult - a political cult, much like the followers of Lyndon LaRouche.

Lyndon LaRouche seems to have been a poster child for European Right-Wingers: proof of how much trouble a small but active & vocal majority can cause in our modern, complacent democracies.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 2:27:36am

What I love about Trumpers though is how Trump needs to be respected because he’s president but they totally ignore how Trump disrespects his predecessors all the time. It’s a cult. It will continue to be one because Trump has FNC feeding them lies or fake outrages to distract them from what an incompetent asshole they elected. I’d almost feel sorry for them but I’ve seen how they’ve taken to the El Salvadoran immigrants decision with their usual disregard for humanity.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 9, 2018 • 3:00:42am

re: #37 HappyWarrior

What I love about Trumpers though is how Trump needs to be respected because he’s president but they totally ignore how Trump disrespects his predecessors all the time. It’s a cult. It will continue to be one because Trump has FNC feeding them lies or fake outrages to distract them from what an incompetent asshole they elected. I’d almost feel sorry for them but I’ve seen how they’ve taken to the El Salvadoran immigrants decision with their usual disregard for humanity.

Remember what El Salvador meant to us under Reagan…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2018 • 3:09:34am
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Barefoot Grin  Jan 9, 2018 • 4:35:56am

I just heard this snippet on NPR and had to check to make sure I hadn’t misheard:

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A Mom Anon  Jan 9, 2018 • 4:44:09am

re: #40 Barefoot Grin

And 30 plus percent of Americans think he’s sane and stable and right about everything. And that same percentage are the only common folk our idiot media think are noteworthy. Yay.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 9, 2018 • 4:45:10am

re: #41 A Mom Anon

And 30 plus percent of Americans think he’s sane and stable and right about everything. And that same percentage are the only common folk our idiot media think are noteworthy. Yay.

add another 20% who are clueless and/or indifferent and that is enough to place and keep him in power.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 4:48:14am

re: #38 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Remember what El Salvador meant to us under Reagan…

I’m aware which is why it makes me more sick. Our policies created the conditions why they wanted to leave.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 4:50:47am

re: #40 Barefoot Grin

I just heard this snippet on NPR and had to check to make sure I hadn’t misheard:

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A normal person thanks the voters for allowing him to serve as their President. He thinks he’s their savior.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 9, 2018 • 4:52:24am

Seeing that amazing guitarist Fujioka Mikio who played with Babymetal has died. Not sure of cause of death.
twitter.com

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jeffreyw  Jan 9, 2018 • 4:59:40am

Imgur


Good morning!

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Old Liberal  Jan 9, 2018 • 5:06:38am

On the Bill Press show this morning, a guest said that 70% of Republicans support a path for DACA. Assume this is true, why wouldn’t DACA be a slam dunk? Because conservatives don’t really care about DACA and have no interest in getting this passed. And the conservatives in government know this. These Good Germans don’t care about anything except God, Gays, Guns, fetuses and no taxes (pick and mix whatever assortment they want). This is why conservatism is a bankrupt philosophy. They are the white-washed tombs referenced by jeebus in that great work of historical fiction called The Bible to which most of them ascribe.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 9, 2018 • 5:13:49am

re: #47 Old Liberal

There is a much deeper, anti-statist ideology behind modern conservatism, it was discussed in a recent Slate article that shows that “family values” or “religious freedoms” or “tax relief” are all just empty talking points presented to implement a much larger, darker agenda:

What Is the Far Right’s Endgame? A Society That Suppresses the Majority.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 9, 2018 • 5:15:56am

re: #46 jeffreyw

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dangerman  Jan 9, 2018 • 5:20:34am

re: #11 Ace-o-aces

Wow, good thing we didn’t elect that warmongering @HillaryClinton!

She’d have started a war already. ////

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lizardofid  Jan 9, 2018 • 5:21:32am

re: #39 Backwoods_Sleuth

Timing is everything, no? What a difference a month makes. Or, in this case, what a difference it could have made.

Oh, and good morning!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 9, 2018 • 5:22:32am

re: #50 dangerman

She’d have started a war already. ////

and if she had not, they would be complaining about her not doing enough to stand up against North Korean aggression

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 9, 2018 • 5:23:26am

re: #51 lizardofid

Timing is everything, no? What a difference a month makes. Or, in this case, what a difference it could have made.

big difference: there will be a lot more runoff because of so much destroyed vegetation

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 5:24:42am

re: #47 Old Liberal

On the Bill Press show this morning, a guest said that 70% of Republicans support a path for DACA. Assume this is true, why wouldn’t DACA be a slam dunk? Because conservatives don’t really care about DACA and have no interest in getting this passed. And the conservatives in government know this. These Good Germans don’t care about anything except God, Gays, Guns, fetuses and no taxes (pick and mix whatever assortment they want). This is why conservatism is a bankrupt philosophy. They are the white-washed tombs referenced by jeebus in that great work of historical fiction called The Bible to which most of them ascribe.

They support DACA until they’re told DACA is allowing MS-13 in.

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lizardofid  Jan 9, 2018 • 5:27:33am

re: #53 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

big difference: there will be a lot more runoff because of so much destroyed vegetation

Understood. I should have stipulated that what would have been a blessing a month ago, is now a curse, causing even more evacuations and potential loss of life.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 9, 2018 • 5:28:50am

re: #55 lizardofid

Understood. I should have stipulated that what would have been a blessing a month ago, is now a curse, causing even more evacuations and potential loss of life.

Southern CA is does not have the climate or vegetation to support as many people as choose to live there.

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lizardofid  Jan 9, 2018 • 5:30:49am

re: #56 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Southern CA is does not have the climate or vegetation to support as many people as choose to live there.

“call someplace paradise, kiss it goodbye”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 9, 2018 • 5:36:00am

re: #57 lizardofid

“call someplace paradise, kiss it goodbye”

It is also a matter of how it is settled and developed. People who want to move there from the Midwest and have lush, green lawns cannot expect that sort of thing is reasonable or sustainable.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 9, 2018 • 5:42:23am

re: #39 Backwoods_Sleuth

Indeed. Updated at 5:04am
noozhawk.com

Virtually all major roads leading into Montecito were reported to be impassible, with heavy flows of water, mud and debris on the roadways.

San Ysidro Road, Olive Mill Road and other streets were reported to be completely impassible due to flooding, and mud flows were reported on East Valley Road.

Emergency radio traffic also indicated numerous reports of people trapped inside structures and unable to evacuate, and 9-1-1 lines were being overwhelmed.

Highway 101 was reported shut down in both directions in Montecito, while northbound 101 was closed near Ventura due to flooding north of La Conchita.

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jeffreyw  Jan 9, 2018 • 5:43:45am

re: #49 Dave In Austin

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We get a closely related woodpecker here in S Illinois.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 9, 2018 • 5:44:27am

re: #56 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

SoCal-Originally pitched to the rest of the nation as a territory without natural disasters. No tornadoes, hurricanes etc.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 9, 2018 • 5:48:34am

re: #60 jeffreyw

We get a closely related woodpecker here in S Illinois.

We’ve got Red- bellies down here as well. You also have the Northern Flicker.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 5:52:43am

Have to admit, while I want no part of an Oprah 2020 candidacy, I’m amused by people who defended Trump and Moore attacking her as “Weinstein’s pomp.”

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Sir John Barron  Jan 9, 2018 • 5:53:35am

re: #40 Barefoot Grin

I just heard this snippet on NPR and had to check to make sure I hadn’t misheard:

If President Obama had said this, conservative punditry would be calling for impeachment, etc. vol. XXXLVCIII

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Sir John Barron  Jan 9, 2018 • 5:54:58am

re: #52 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and if she had not, they would be complaining about her not doing enough to stand up against North Korean aggression

“How come she hasn’t brought all the ISIS to U.S. for public execution?”

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Belafon  Jan 9, 2018 • 5:58:34am

re: #64 Sir John Barron

If President Obama had said this, conservative punditry would be calling for impeachment, etc. vol. XXXLVCIII

SNL should do a segment where Obama and Clinton repeat Trump quotes as if they were their own.

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ObserverArt  Jan 9, 2018 • 5:59:18am

re: #40 Barefoot Grin

I just heard this snippet on NPR and had to check to make sure I hadn’t misheard:

BuzzFeed News

@BuzzFeedNews
“Oh, are you happy you voted for me. You are so lucky that I gave you that privilege,” President Trump tells farmers in Nashville.

4:49 PM - Jan 8, 2018
2,275 2,275 Replies 3,020 3,020 Retweets 2,739 2,739 likes

I was just checking my ATT/Yahoo email and I think I saw an article linked that said he asked the farmers to give him a standing ovation.

I guess both his neediness and his arrogance knows no bounds.

Do the people that respond to him in a request like that actually think that is the character of a great leader?

I ask, because I seriously no longer know the answer.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:00:12am

re: #67 ObserverArt

I was just checking my ATT/Yahoo email and I think I saw an article linked that said he asked the farmers to give him a standing ovation.

I guess both his neediness and his arrogance knows no bounds.

Do the people that respond to him in a request like that actually think that is the character of a great leader?

I ask, because I seriously no longer know the answer.

This is so bizarre.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:03:28am

Also, look for Russian bots to push Oprah full scale.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:08:14am

re: #67 ObserverArt

I was just checking my ATT/Yahoo email and I think I saw an article linked that said he asked the farmers to give him a standing ovation.

I guess both his neediness and his arrogance knows no bounds.

Do the people that respond to him in a request like that actually think that is the character of a great leader?

I ask, because I seriously no longer know the answer.

He acts how dictators do not democratically elected leaders.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:10:39am

re: #41 A Mom Anon

And 30 plus percent of Americans think he’s sane and stable and right about everything. And that same percentage are the only common folk our idiot media think are noteworthy. Yay.

And millions of them go to church every Sunday where the Pulpit Pimp Preachers endlessly recite RepubliKKKlan Party talking points!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:11:21am

re: #69 Barefoot Grin

Also, look for Russian bots to push Oprah full scale.

Tweety was pushing her endlessly on yesterday’s Hardball.

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ObserverArt  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:12:30am

re: #68 Barefoot Grin

This is so bizarre.

I just wanted to make sure so I did a search because I didn’t read the Yahoo article, just saw the headline.

Sure ‘nuff. And not only did he say it, he said other arrogant BS.

Business Insider - Trump tells crowd in Nashville to ‘get up’ and give him a standing ovation

President Donald Trump likes a good applause line.

At a rally on Monday, in Nashville, Tennessee, he touted the changes to the US tax code in the new Republican tax law, at one point requesting attendees give him a standing ovation.

Among those changes is a doubling of the threshold to qualify for the estate tax to over $10 million. Americans’ estates larger than $5.6 million had previously been subject to the tax.

Trump said people would now be “spared” from the estate tax, which he called the “death tax,” drawing applause from the crowd at the American Farm Bureau Federation’s convention. Trump then implored the audience to “come on, get up,” and give him a standing ovation.

Later in the speech, Trump said it was a “privilege” for people to get to vote for him.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:12:53am

re: #72 Joe Bacon 🌹

Tweety was pushing her endlessly on yesterday’s Hardball.

Tweety wants to be entertained.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:13:50am

re: #73 ObserverArt

I just wanted to make sure so I did a search because I didn’t read the Yahoo article, just saw the headline.

Sure ‘nuff. And not only did he say it, he said other arrogant BS.

Business Insider - Trump tells crowd in Nashville to ‘get up’ and give him a standing ovation

Hate to be a broken record but imagine Clinton or Obama saying anything resembling that and the reaction?

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:15:12am

re: #56 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Southern CA is does not have the climate or vegetation to support as many people as choose to live there.

I remember hearing, years and years ago, that the Los Angeles River - in its natural state - could support (at most) a population of about 10,000 people.

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ObserverArt  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:18:38am

re: #75 HappyWarrior

Hate to be a broken record but imagine Clinton or Obama saying anything resembling that and the reaction?

I hate to think it, but it may not be too far off before people begin to say “Hail Trump” in response to him and as a greeting.

It may be demanded.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:22:02am

re: #77 ObserverArt

I hate to think it, but it may not be too far off before people begin to say “Hail Trump” in response to him and as a greeting.

It may be demanded.

Something like that or giving himself a special title that people must address him as.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:22:16am

re: #77 ObserverArt

I hate to think it, but it may not be too far off before people begin to say “Hail Trump” in response to him and as a greeting.

It may be demanded.

2009-2016:
Obama where’s your birth certificate and college records you Kenyan-born gay Muslim Calipha and your fat man-wife Mooochele?

2017:
Show some respect for our great MAGA president and his great family who sacrifices so much!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:22:19am

re: #61 Unshaken Defiance

SoCal-Originally pitched to the rest of the nation as a territory without natural disasters. No tornadoes, hurricanes etc.

and no earthquakes…

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:23:10am

re: #79 Sir John Barron

2009-2016:
Obama where’s your birth certificate and college records you Kenyan-born gay Muslim Calipha and your fat man-wife Mooochele?

2017:
Show some respect for our great MAGA president and his great family who sacrifices so much!

Yep pretty much.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:23:19am

re: #74 HappyWarrior

Tweety wants to be entertained.

Can’t believe Tweety is still on the TV.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:23:23am

re: #69 Barefoot Grin

Also, look for Russian bots to push Oprah full scale.

Have we really come down to the level of a nation that is going to have to choose between two TV stars for the Presidency?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:24:41am

re: #83 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Have we really come down to the level of a nation that is going to have to choose between two TV stars for the Presidency?

If we do, may be time to leave.

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Belafon  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:24:48am

re: #73 ObserverArt

I just wanted to make sure so I did a search because I didn’t read the Yahoo article, just saw the headline.

Sure ‘nuff. And not only did he say it, he said other arrogant BS.

Business Insider - Trump tells crowd in Nashville to ‘get up’ and give him a standing ovation

Did they get up?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:25:01am

re: #82 Sir John Barron

Can’t believe Tweety is still on the TV.

Same. He’s always been obnoxious imo.

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Belafon  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:25:20am

re: #83 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Have we really come down to the level of a nation that is going to have to choose between two TV stars for the Presidency?

Have we? Is it November, 2020 already?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:25:55am

re: #84 HappyWarrior

If we do, may be time to leave.

I left in 1988…I still get homesick from time to time, but all I have to do is read or watch the news and i feel better within minutes

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:26:24am

re: #87 Belafon

Have we? Is it November, 2020 already?

that is going to have to, still future tense.

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darthstar  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:26:47am

Like, very smart, only different.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:26:54am

re: #87 Belafon

Have we? Is it November, 2020 already?

True, let’s not get carried away. I do think we’ll have a good nominee in 2020.

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MsJ  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:27:30am

re: #27 HappyWarrior

Guess Mr. I take credit only for good economic news will ignore this.

Remember, he called Flynn one night to ask if a strong dollar was a good or bad thing.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:27:48am

re: #90 darthstar

Like, very smart, only different.

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Yeah fuck his stupid wall. And as usual, it’s about symbols. His moron base wants a wall.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:28:14am

re: #92 MsJ

Remember, he called Flynn one night to ask if a strong dollar was a good or bad thing.

Genius business, man.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:28:16am

re: #92 MsJ

Remember, he called Flynn one night to ask if a strong dollar was a good or bad thing.

That’s right. But he’s a great businessman.//

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Belafon  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:28:42am

re: #89 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

that is going to have to, still future tense.

You started with “Have we” which is present tense. And we’re not there yet.

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Old Liberal  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:28:51am

re: #88 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I don’t know how to send private message yet, would you mind telling where you moved to? I have my exit plan finalized.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:29:44am

I see his supporters go “Well if he’s so dumb@, how did he beat Hillary? Same reason why Justin Bieber can outsell more talented musicians. Branding.

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MsJ  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:31:21am

re: #67 ObserverArt

I was just checking my ATT/Yahoo email and I think I saw an article linked that said he asked the farmers to give him a standing ovation.

I guess both his neediness and his arrogance knows no bounds.

Do the people that respond to him in a request like that actually think that is the character of a great leader?

I ask, because I seriously no longer know the answer.

Please clap.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:31:27am

re: #88 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I left in 1988…I still get homesick from time to time, but all I have to do is read or watch the news and i feel better within minutes

I’ve got a couple cousins abroad thankfully.

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darthstar  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:31:40am
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ObserverArt  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:32:11am

re: #85 Belafon

Did they get up?

No idea. It would not surprise me if they did.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:33:41am

re: #101 darthstar

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Lies about everything even his few accomplishments.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:34:21am

re: #90 darthstar

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:34:44am

re: #96 Belafon

You started with “Have we” which is present tense. And we’re not there yet.

we have already become a nation that has elected a TV start and a B-movie actor

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:35:12am

When things go to shit, these people are going to be pissed but unfortunately for us, they’ve been programmed to blame the wrong people. It will be Obama’s fault, the immigrants, etc.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:36:22am

re: #104 Unshaken Defiance

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Trump: I knew Pablo Escobar. Great business guy. Not a lot of people know that he supplied all my coke in the 80’s.

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William Lewis  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:37:12am

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:37:40am

re: #105 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

we have already become a nation that has elected a TV start and a B-movie actor

Well we’re also the country that elected a biracial son of a Kenyan immigrant and was an accomplished law professor.

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Belafon  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:38:06am

re: #105 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

we have already become a nation that has elected a TV start and a B-movie actor

And a black man. Maybe, then, anyone can become president. And maybe it should only be about qualifications.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:38:11am

re: #108 William Lewis

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:39:07am

re: #97 Old Liberal

I don’t know how to send private message yet, would you mind telling where you moved to? I have my exit plan finalized.

[ private ] remove blank spaces and you get private parts [ /private]

I moved to Germany a long time ago, not necessary permanently, and was considering returning, but stuck around here when things started getting interesting in 1989.

2006 was another cultural watershed year for me: Germany hosted the Soccer World Cup and showed the world that they could kick back and party as well as anyone else, but still be organized about it

and 2015 was a year in which Germany took in nearly a million refugees and showed that a modern, industrialized nation could do such a thing without experiencing mass lawlessness and social collapse, albeit not without certain problems.

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makeitstop  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:39:49am

I want to see a Sassy Trump of that National Anthem clip.

‘Morning, Lizards! It’s headed above freezing here today. Woot!

And like the sportsballer said, fuck Trump.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:41:42am

re: #110 Belafon

And a black man. Maybe, then, anyone can become president. And maybe it should only be about qualifications.

My greatest disappointment last year was the exposure of how much sexism still exists in our society and it ain’t just the right that’s guilty.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:42:44am

re: #109 HappyWarrior

Well we’re also the country that elected a biracial son of a Kenyan immigrant and was an accomplished law professor.

and I was most proud of that. but instead of conservatives holding him up as proof of the american dream and proof that anyone, regardless of race and origin could succeed by working hard, we saw him branded a kenyan muslim usurper…

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MsJ  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:43:43am

re: #113 makeitstop

I want to see a Sassy Trump of that National Anthem clip.

‘Morning, Lizards! It’s headed above freezing here today. Woot!

And like the sportsballer said, fuck Trump.

Or a bad lip-reading. Now that would be funny.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:44:09am

re: #115 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and I was most proud of that. but instead of conservatives holding him up as proof of the american dream and proof that anyone, regardless of race and origin could succeed by working hard, we saw him branded a kenyan muslim usurper…

Yeah well I was talking about the country as a whole. I don’t give two fucks about an ideology that holds up a senile Reagan as being on the same level as Washington, Lincoln, and FDR.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:44:25am

re: #114 HappyWarrior

My greatest disappointment last year was the exposure of how much sexism still exists in our society and it ain’t just the right that’s guilty.

that is as much a social issue as a political one.

we must not, however, take any of the advances made in past decades in women’s, minority and LGBT rights for granted. lots of people want to see them overturned.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:45:02am

re: #117 HappyWarrior

Yeah well I was talking about the country as a whole. I don’t give two fucks about an ideology that holds up a senile Reagan as being on the same level as Washington, Lincoln, and FDR.

never the real reagan, just the rose-tinted-memories-of-morning-in-america reagan

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JordanRules  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:45:07am

Seeing her resume continue to get disrespected like this…
Maybe it’s cause the empire she built was mostly for, by and about women.

You can not want her for President without doing this.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:45:26am

re: #118 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

that is as much a social issue as a political one.

we must not, however, take any of the advances made in past decades in women’s, minority and LGBT rights for granted. lots of people want to see them overturned.

Agreed. It’s social as well as political and damn straight, can’t take that for granted. They’d gladly reverse a lot of if they could.

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darthstar  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:46:27am

re: #103 HappyWarrior

Lies about everything even his few accomplishments.

$5.5 Trillion tax cut would double the deficit in two months, and every two months.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:48:04am

re: #120 JordanRules

Seeing her resume continue to get disrespected like this…
Maybe it’s cause the empire she built was mostly for, by and about women.

You can not want her for President without doing this.

Speaking for myself I’m just extremely adverse to people who have never served in government wanting the executive branch. She is an accomplished businesswoman but I really think POTUS is more than that which is why I prefer Kamala- former prosecutor, state AG, Senator.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:48:26am

re: #122 darthstar

$5.5 Trillion tax cut would double the deficit in two months, and every two months.

Fiscal conservatism.//

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:49:33am

re: #119 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

never the real reagan, just the rose-tinted-memories-of-morning-in-america reagan

The Reagan that did tax increases, signed an amnesty, Net with Gorby, and supported some gun control in retirement.

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dangerman  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:50:34am

re: #93 HappyWarrior

Yeah fuck his stupid wall. And as usual, it’s about symbols. His moron base wants a wall.

with the inevitable easement / eminent domain issues, the almost certain environmental groups bringing lawsuits, the cost and who’s actually “going to pay for it” (hint: not mexico), a wall will never happen

bits, pieces, maybe - twitter stunts probably.
an actual full wall? nope

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:51:58am

re: #125 HappyWarrior

The Reagan that did tax increases, signed an amnesty, Net with Gorby, and supported some gun control in retirement.

no, that was a different reagan, not the blank-screen-on-which-we-project-our-image-of-the-ideal-conservative-president reagan

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darthstar  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:53:30am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:56:56am

re: #128 darthstar

‘He’s sunk’: Michael Wolff says White House aides terrified of Mueller looking at Trump’s finances

This is the one good thing I see coming out of this investigation. Heck, it might not be enough to get him run out of office, but it will really diminish his political power and influence upcoming elections

because there is no way the GOP will be able to distance themselves from the man they nominated

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:58:14am

re: #90 darthstar

Love how the drone footage of these prototypes proves how easily subverted any wall is.

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darthstar  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:58:40am

Things are moving so fast right now anything can trigger Trump into doing something rash and stupid. Hell, his people are even considering striking North Korea and hoping they don’t start a nuclear war, but if they did, it would be NK’s fault…that kind of fucked up shit.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:00:02am

re: #97 Old Liberal

I don’t know how to send private message yet, would you mind telling where you moved to? I have my exit plan finalized.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:00:18am

re: #131 darthstar

even the threat of an impending war would be enough to prompt calls to end dissent and discussion and rally around the president

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Belafon  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:00:44am

re: #118 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

that is as much a social issue as a political one.

we must not, however, take any of the advances made in past decades in women’s, minority and LGBT rights for granted. lots of people want to see them overturned.

I think one of the things the Republican party realizes is that there’s finally enough people to implement both the social and economic programs the Democrats have been advocating (in the 1960s, when Democrats had the economic program in place - the New Deal - and passed the CRA and VRA, they lost the racist vote which hurt their chance to sustain it). All Democrats lacked were getting people out to the polls. Trump has finally woke people up. Now, they’re trying a scorched earth campaign because they’re close to losing it all.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:00:58am

re: #132 Dave In Austin

Whoops

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darthstar  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:01:23am

re: #129 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This is the one good thing I see coming out of this investigation. Heck, it might not be enough to get him run out of office, but it will really diminish his political power and influence upcoming elections

because there is no way the GOP will be able to distance themselves from the man they nominated

Distance? They’re embracing him even closer since Fire & Fury went out. Privately, they have to be wondering what the drop-dead date is for cutting off the obedience and looking to survive.

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makeitstop  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:02:19am

re: #133 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

even the threat of an impending war would be enough to prompt calls to end dissent and discussion and rally around the president

The threat of impending war has been going on for months now.

The only people I see rallying around Trump are the people who are as crazy as he is.

It’s not ending dissent, and it’s not for lack of trying.

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darthstar  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:03:27am

I think I should get bonus points for not adding …in a Cinemax, After Dark, movie.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:03:27am

re: #88 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I left in 1988…I still get homesick from time to time, but all I have to do is read or watch the news and i feel better within minutes

Us poverty-stricken folks are stuck with whatever we’re handed. I can’t move to another country (or even another state) unless I do something like win the lotto.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:04:25am

re: #134 Belafon

I think one of the things the Republican party realizes is that there’s finally enough people to implement both the social and economic programs the Democrats have been advocating (in the 1960s, when Democrats had the economic program in place - the New Deal - and passed the CRA and VRA, they lost the racist vote which hurt their chance to sustain it). All Democrats lacked were getting people out to the polls. Trump has finally woke people up. Now, they’re trying a scorched earth campaign because they’re close to losing it all.

I think you’re right and that’s why they’re doing things that will limit participation by said groups. The New Deal Coalition ultimately failed because of resentment stirred by Wallace, Nixon, and Reagan finally killed it for good.

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Old Liberal  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:04:50am

re: #132 Dave In Austin

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Thanks to all who helped. Looks like DOS to this old man. I never did master command line stuff. I was already 10 years into a career when the fax machine arrived.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:05:20am

Librarian libel. My wife is way smarter than SE Cupp.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:05:21am

re: #138 darthstar

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I think I should get bonus points for not adding …in a Cinemax, After Dark, movie.

Pretty stupid to say since Trump is hovering below 50%. Cupp is a troll.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:06:59am

re: #139 Anymouse 🌹

Us poverty-stricken folks are stuck with whatever we’re handed. I can’t move to another country (or even another state) unless I do something like win the lotto.

I was in my late 20’s at the time and looked around at all the folks who had kids and jobs and debts and could not move, I was offered a chance and took it mostly because I still could

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:07:11am

I think Trump is in serious trouble. The right has no idea what he’s woken up on the left. However, we will need to be united for sure. That’s what killed us in 2016.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:08:55am

re: #138 darthstar

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Old Liberal  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:09:30am

re: #139 Anymouse 🌹

Us poverty-stricken folks are stuck with whatever we’re handed. I can’t move to another country (or even another state) unless I do something like win the lotto.

You might have more options than you think. If you are ever curious, I’d be happy to kick around ideas. Not promoting exit, but I’ve always been in favor of knowing all the options.

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Belafon  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:09:53am

re: #142 Anymouse 🌹

Librarian libel. My wife is way smarter than SE Cupp.

Cupp thinks she’s being cute. “Don’t throw me in the briar patch.” The problem for Cupp, though, is while I don’t think Oprah has the right experience to be president, she’s way better than Trump. And Oprah appeals to a lot of white women.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:09:54am

This Oorah as a sexual assault enabler from Trumpers is really pissing me off not just given who Trump is but that Oprah was a victim herself.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:10:50am

re: #145 HappyWarrior

I think Trump is in serious trouble. The right has no idea what he’s woken up on the left. However, we will need to be united for sure. That’s what killed us in 2016.

That and the huge number of people who simply sat out the election, thinking either “both parties are the same” or “government doesn’t affect me.”

Rather than trying to reach out to conservatives, the apathists are the ones to try to reach. Their minds (at least in theory) could be changed.

If a conservative voter chooses to flip (or not vote) then great. But spending effort on reaching those who are part of the GOP crazification factor, nope.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:11:30am

re: #148 Belafon

Cupp thinks she’s being cute. “Don’t throw me in the briar patch.” The problem for Cupp, though, is while I don’t think Oprah has the right experience to be president, she’s way better than Trump. And Oprah appeals to a lot of white women.

She’s also actually successful at what she does. I’ve even had one of her soups lately. Can’t say the same about having a Trump steak.

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dangerman  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:11:35am

re: #129 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This is the one good thing I see coming out of this investigation. Heck, it might not be enough to get him run out of office, but it will really diminish his political power and influence upcoming elections

because there is no way the GOP will be able to distance themselves from the man they nominated

russia-gate aside, i cant understand how this guy thought no one would dig into his past, including his finances
either during the campaign or after - whether he won or not

i know - he never expected to win and i guess if he didnt, this might have faded away. still - why open yourself up to scrutiny you cant control when you’ve pretty much “got away with it” up to now?

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:12:14am

re: #147 Old Liberal

You might have more options than you think. If you are ever curious, I’d be happy to kick around ideas. Not promoting exit, but I’ve always been in favor of knowing all the options.

Late fifties, no education, no money, no relatives in foreign countries. I’m pretty sure no one would take me in unless I could demonstrate I was a political refugee.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:12:28am

re: #150 Anymouse 🌹

That and the huge number of people who simply sat out the election, thinking either “both parties are the same” or “government doesn’t affect me.”

Rather than trying to reach out to conservatives, the apathists are the ones to try to reach. Their minds (at least in theory) could be changed.

If a conservative voter chooses to flip (or not vote) then great. But spending effort on reaching those who are part of the GOP crazification factor, nope.

Right and getting out apathists helped us this past year. Get out and expand our base.

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Belafon  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:12:28am

re: #145 HappyWarrior

I think Trump is in serious trouble. The right has no idea what he’s woken up on the left. However, we will need to be united for sure. That’s what killed us in 2016.

Partially. But so many people thought he wouldn’t win, so they went “meh.” They either didn’t vote, or made some stupid vote. Now, though, Trump is in office. They don’t have that excuse.

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Old Liberal  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:12:40am

re: #150 Anymouse 🌹

That and the huge number of people who simply sat out the election, thinking either “both parties are the same” or “government doesn’t affect me.”

Rather than trying to reach out to conservatives, the apathists are the ones to try to reach. Their minds (at least in theory) could be changed.

If a conservative voter chooses to flip (or not vote) then great. But spending effort on reaching those who are part of the GOP crazification factor, nope.

I agree 10,000%

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:13:19am

re: #152 dangerman

russia-gate aside, i cant understand how this guy thought no one would dig into his past, including his finances
either during the campaign or after - whether he won or not

i know - he never expected to win and i guess if he didnt, this might have faded away. still - why open yourself up to scrutiny you cant control when you’ve pretty much “got away with it” up to now?

He really thinks he’s above the law.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:13:49am

re: #155 Belafon

Partially. But so many people thought he wouldn’t win, so they went “meh.” They either didn’t vote, or made some stupid vote. Now, though, Trump is in office. They don’t have that excuse.

That too.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:14:10am

2016 was a perfect storm of things going wrong.

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dangerman  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:14:28am

re: #141 Old Liberal

Thanks to all who helped. Looks like DOS to this old man. I never did master command line stuff. I was already 10 years into a career when the fax machine arrived.

do you remember when fedex tried zapmail?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:14:34am
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Lidane  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:14:50am

Hahaha:

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ObserverArt  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:15:33am

Why do I not trust S.E. Cupp when she says something like the Dems will lose if they don’t run Oprah.

This all has me wondering. Why would anyone go into politics at an early age to have a life of service and a goal of maybe one day becoming president the what appears to be the old fashioned way when all of a sudden you can be blown out of the water by someone popular from sports, media, etc.?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:16:08am
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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:16:26am

re: #149 HappyWarrior

This Oorah as a sexual assault enabler from Trumpers is really pissing me off not just given who Trump is but that Oprah was a victim herself.

P.S. I agree with you. My point of posting my tweet above… we’d never hear the end of it during the campaign. Yes, Trump will find any petty little thing to bitch about, but rehashing Weinstein and “Hollywood casting couch culture” forever… personally I’d blow a fuse.

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Old Liberal  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:16:47am

re: #153 Anymouse 🌹

Late fifties, no education, no money, no relatives in foreign countries. I’m pretty sure no one would take me in unless I could demonstrate I was a political refugee.

There are several. If you can adapt to living in western Nebraska, I’m gonna put you down for “flexible” as to surroundings. Many people aren’t adaptable to much of anything different. As for “expected standard of living”, I’m gonna put you down as “able to stretch a buck”.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:17:22am

re: #163 ObserverArt

Why do I not trust S.E. Cupp when she says something like the Dems will lose if they don’t run Oprah.

This all has me wondering. Why would anyone go into politics at an early age to have a life of service and a goal of maybe one day becoming president the what appears to be the old fashioned way when all of a sudden you can be blown out of the water by someone popular from sports, media, etc.?

Rodent copulation. Oprah also once promoted the idea on her show Donald Trump should run for President.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:18:15am

re: #163 ObserverArt

Why do I not trust S.E. Cupp when she says something like the Dems will lose if they don’t run Oprah.

This all has me wondering. Why would anyone go into politics at an early age to have a life of service and a goal of maybe one day becoming president the what appears to be the old fashioned way when all of a sudden you can be blown out of the water by someone popular from sports, media, etc.?

People voted for Trump because he was the anti-politician, the businessman of “independent means” not beholden to donors and the ultimate outsider.

That allowed him to get away with things that would have scuppered the campaign or even the career of a professional politician.

Problem now is that after a year in office, he is no longer an outsider, no matter how he tries to market himself.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:18:16am

re: #165 GlutenFreeJesus

P.S. I agree with you. My point of posting my tweet above… we’d never hear the end of it during the campaign. Yes, Trump will find any petty little thing to bitch about, but rehashing Weinstein and “Hollywood casting couch culture” forever… personally I’d blow a fuse.

No, I was just referencing the stuff I saw on FB from the few Trumpers I know. But yeah if you want the Republicans to talk about Weinstein even more, you give them Oprah which is really unfair to her but they’ll do it without an ounce of shame knowing who they’ve elected and defended.

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dangerman  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:18:18am

re: #161 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“you better pay for that twinkie”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:18:24am
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Old Liberal  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:19:00am

re: #160 dangerman

do you remember when fedex tried zapmail?

No, I don’t remember that. But when I started, if you had an IBM Selectric typewriter, you were in the vanguard.

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William Lewis  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:19:32am

re: #153 Anymouse 🌹

Late fifties, no education, no money, no relatives in foreign countries. I’m pretty sure no one would take me in unless I could demonstrate I was a political refugee.

I’m in the same boat. If it came to that, I’d get my son across the Canadian boarder with paperwork to claim refugee status because of his ancestry (Vietnamese) and medical conditions. Then I’d turn around and head in to the deep woods to start seriously resisting…

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:20:38am
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ObserverArt  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:22:37am

re: #165 GlutenFreeJesus

P.S. I agree with you. My point of posting my tweet above… we’d never hear the end of it during the campaign. Yes, Trump will find any petty little thing to bitch about, but rehashing Weinstein and “Hollywood casting couch culture” forever… personally I’d blow a fuse.

Better stock up on fuses.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:23:15am
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Targetpractice  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:23:40am

re: #161 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“You gonna buy something or what?”

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Belafon  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:25:12am

re: #162 Lidane

Hahaha:

Google, Twitter face new lawsuits alleging discrimination against conservative voices

I figure the title’s enough to tell you what snowflakes these white guys are, guys who’d have no problem firing someone for being black or gay.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:25:49am

re: #174 The Vicious Babushka

I read about that elsewhere. After conservatives went bonkers over the DOJ report on rising right-wing extremism, terrorism statutes were written in such a way that domestic terrorism could not be called such unless an attack hit certain parts of critical infrastructure. Railroads fit that definition. The mass shooting in Las Vegas did not.

That said, the DOJ didn’t make any particular announcement. The fact terrorism charges were filed was uncovered by a local beat reporter at the Lincoln (Nebr.) Journal-Star when she was scanning Federal docket filings.

It doesn’t really fit the current DOJ’s narrative of “there are good people on both sides” to note that one of the chowderheads who went to the so-called “Unite the Right” rally was the terrorist. The press also notes that for some time the guy’s family was not cooperating with the FBI in its investigation, and when they raided the man’s home, the father showed up to show them were the guns were. He’d previously said that he had no idea where his son lived.

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darthstar  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:26:13am

Sometimes these hashtag games are hard #TrumpAMovie, #RuinABookWithOneWord, etc…but this one was easy.

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darthstar  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:26:53am

re: #162 Lidane

Hahaha:

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I’m sure they meant ‘Alt-right troll’ in a positive way.

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ObserverArt  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:27:57am

re: #167 Anymouse 🌹

Rodent copulation. Oprah also once promoted the idea on her show Donald Trump should run for President.

Saw some video of both that show and also of Trump saying he would consider Oprah as a running mate.

Made me cringe. The idea of Oprah being open to Trump in the past has me worried about the future. I would think Oprah would know all about Trump’s rather inglorious past and if she actually was serious I have big questions about seriousness.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:28:20am

re: #178 Belafon

Google, Twitter face new lawsuits alleging discrimination against conservative voices

I figure the title’s enough to tell you what snowflakes these white guys are, guys who’d have no problem firing someone for being black or gay.

I saw a bunch of them complaining about how come Marxist professors don’t get fired regarding that story about a PRIVATE school that fired a white supremacist.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:28:36am

re: #162 Lidane

Hahaha:

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Johnson, who is represented by Robert Barnes (a Law&Crime columnist)

He’s destroyed in the comments.

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Old Liberal  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:29:30am

If Hillary had been elected (and I voted for her), many bad things would not have happened, but it would have been no picnic as we know. Endless “investigations”, brutal obstruction from conservatives, even Constitution-threatening acts (refusing to approve judges, even Supreme Court, defiant conservative states, etc.). So we would have a different mess and somewhat better, but it would be an environment where conservatives could use it to further their entrenchment in federal and state government. I’m not an optimist, don’t believe in it, but as a strategist, I see we are in crisis but a different kind of crisis. Bad things are happening, but people are waking up. Conservatives are being exposed. Democratic leadership is being exposed. Necessity is indeed the mother of invention. Trump is the Chinese character that means both “opportunity” and “danger”. We’ve got a multi-year slog ahead, and there is no certainty of victory, but I think we all see several paths to a better tomorrow.

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darthstar  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:30:01am

re: #162 Lidane

Hahaha:

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I googled it…he got banned from Twitter over 2 1/2 years ago. That’s a long time to sit around complaining that you can’t say nasty things on the Internet.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:31:57am

re: #185 Old Liberal

If Hillary had been elected (and I voted for her), many bad things would not have happened, but it would have been no picnic as we know. Endless “investigations”, brutal obstruction from conservatives, even Constitution-threatening acts (refusing to approve judges, even Supreme Court, defiant conservative states, etc.). So we would have a different mess and somewhat better, but it would be an environment where conservatives could use it to further their entrenchment in federal and state government. I’m not an optimist, don’t believe in it, but as a strategist, I see we are in crisis but a different kind of crisis. Bad things are happening, but people are waking up. Conservatives are being exposed. Democratic leadership is being exposed. Necessity is indeed the mother of invention. Trump is the Chinese character that means both “opportunity” and “danger”. We’ve got a multi-year slog ahead, and there is no certainty of victory, but I think we all see several paths to a better tomorrow.

Honestly, and while I would never say what happened in 2016 was “good” in the slightest, I’ve been trying to find some silver lining in it and it’s this, I think by 2020 the people would easily be manipulated into thinking that we needed a fresh start in 2020 with a new party in the WH and 2020 would have been a GOP wave year and God Forbid it could mean a President Cruz. We are where we are which is why I don’t wish to fight over the 2016 primaries at all but instead learn and move forward and nominate the best man or woman for the job.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:32:03am

re: #186 darthstar

I googled it…he got banned from Twitter over 2 1/2 years ago. That’s a long time to sit around complaining that you can’t say nasty things on the Internet.

He was strategizing. //

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:32:43am

re: #182 ObserverArt

Saw some video of both that show and also of Trump saying he would consider Oprah as a running mate.

Made me cringe. The idea of Oprah being open to Trump in the past has me worried about the future. I would think Oprah would know all about Trump’s rather inglorious past and if she actually was serious I have big questions about seriousness.

“Surgeon General Jenny McCarthy”

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William Lewis  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:32:44am

re: #162 Lidane

Hahaha:

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“Who’s the alt-right Ewok?” LOL!

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:35:44am

re: #189 Anymouse 🌹

“Surgeon General Jenny McCarthy”

Come on. I’m not a fan of nominating her either or the quacks she’s promoted like McCarthy, Dr. Phil, and Dr. Oz but I think she would know better not to make McCarthy surgeon general.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:35:50am

“Director of NIH Dr. Oz.”

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Belafon  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:35:57am

re: #185 Old Liberal

He is making it tougher for Republicans to claim that they should be in power.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:36:01am

re: #190 William Lewis

“Who’s the alt-right Ewok?” LOL!

LMAO.

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darthstar  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:36:01am

re: #188 wheat-dogg

He was strategizing. //

Doesn’t he have a huge following on Gab?

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Mike Lamb  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:36:40am

I know it’s been done to death, but can you imagine the reaction if Obama had said that he had given people the privilege of voting for him? And I don’t just mean on Fox. CNN would be demanding impeachment.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:36:49am

re: #193 Belafon

He is making it tougher for Republicans to claim that they should be in power.

Republicans have it easier when they’re out of power i.e. 1980, 1994, 2010, and 2016.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:36:59am

re: #180 darthstar

Sometimes these hashtag games are hard #TrumpAMovie, #RuinABookWithOneWord, etc…but this one was easy.

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There’s some funny stuff in there: A Strongly Worded Letter Against the Machine was great. But someone offered a version like yours I quite agree with: Coldplay.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:37:28am

re: #196 Mike Lamb

I know it’s been done to death, but can you imagine the reaction if Obama had said that he had given people the privilege of voting for him? And I don’t just mean on Fox. CNN would be demanding impeachment.

FNC would be talking about Obama’s narcissism non stop and how it makes him like Hitler.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:39:02am

I’ve seen it said this way. Democrats know how to govern. Republicans know how to get elected.

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I cannot.  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:39:04am

MissyVixen • 4 minutes ago
“Johnson, who is represented by Robert Barnes (a Law&Crime columnist)…”

Oh lawd….Johnson should consider himself lucky if he doesn’t get the death penalty.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:39:10am

re: #191 HappyWarrior

Come on. I’m not a fan of nominating her either or the quacks she’s promoted like McCarthy, Dr. Phil, and Dr. Oz but I think she would know better not to make McCarthy surgeon general.

Oprah Winfrey has promoted quackery her entire career.

I have no doubt that if she actually ran (though she’s already said she wouldn’t), the GOP would instantly flip on it’s anti-science position to attack her over that.

They would also run the klaxons up to eleven to drive their voters to the polls (a ni*CLANG woman).

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:44:02am

re: #202 Anymouse 🌹

Oprah Winfrey has promoted quackery her entire career.

I have no doubt that if she actually ran (though she’s already said she wouldn’t), the GOP would instantly flip on it’s anti-science position to attack her over that.

They would also run the klaxons up to eleven to drive their voters to the polls (a ni*CLANG woman).

I’m not saying what they would do, I’m saying that I doubt she would actually make Jenny McCarthy her surgeon general. And yeah they would flip on it. Believe me, I’m skeptical towards an Oprah nomination for many reasons and this is one of them. Just saying there’s no need to get hyperbolic where there’s a lot of non-hyperbolic reasons. I really like Kamala Harris of California and here’s why. She has a wide variety of experiences in public life. She’s been a prosecutor, state AG, and now a Senator so she understands the legal side of things quite well and now she’s getting educated in international issues. She’s also very intelligent and as a daughter of immigrants, the very personification of the American dream that Trump has shat on.

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dangerman  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:44:56am

after the lead off video, currently (all of it):

YouTube

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:46:36am

re: #203 HappyWarrior

Oh, I agree. I’m especially impressed with Kamala Harris and Kirsten Gillibrand (despite all the complaints about her re: Al Franken - politics is not tiddlywinks). There are several other people who impress me as candidates for President as well, though the focus should be on this year’s elections - 2020 is still quite a way off.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:46:58am

This may be a better book than Wolff’s: David Kaye Cay Johnston’s It’s Even Worse than You Think.

booklistonline.com

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:47:54am

re: #205 Anymouse 🌹

Oh, I agree. I’m especially impressed with Kamala Harris and Kirsten Gillibrand (despite all the complaints about her re: Al Franken - politics is not tiddlywinks). There are several other people who impress me as candidates for President as well, though the focus should be on this year’s elections - 2020 is still quite a way off.

I like Tammy Duckworth too. Kamala is my favorite right now since she sponsored DREAM and DREAM is a big issue for me. I know a lot of immigrants given my brother’s extended family and my line of work.

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Belafon  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:48:43am

re: #206 Barefoot Grin

This may be a better book than Wolff’s: David Kaye Cay Johnston’s It’s Even Worse than You Think.

booklistonline.com

Possibly, but it’s also a slightly different book. Wolff’s book is “What in the Hell is Actually Happening in the White House.”

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:48:59am

re: #206 Barefoot Grin

This may be a better book than Wolff’s: David Kaye Cay Johnston’s It’s Even Worse than You Think.

booklistonline.com

After Fire and Fury and Rise of the Fall of the Third Reich, I’m going to require some light reading. I’m thinking The Guns of August.

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William Lewis  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:49:27am

Off to work till 4 . L8er.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:49:56am

BTW has anyone seen ggt or TimothyWatson lately? Don’t think I’ve seen Tim since the eve of the November elections or ggt since around the same time. She always liked discussing books and I remember she was reading GoA at one point.

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mmmirele  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:50:44am

My friends, the ladies who run the Wartburg Watch blog, reported on the sexual assault of a young woman (age 17) back in 1998 by her youth pastor last Friday.

thewartburgwatch.com

Today, the New York Times picked up the story.

mobile.nytimes.com

Andy Savage is the “teaching pastor” at Highpoint church in Memphis. Two days ago he got a standing ovation at church after he described the “sexual incident.” I was watching it on YouTube at the time. And the choice of “sexual incident” was deliberate. It makes it seem like what happened between him and Jules Woodson was consensual. Nope, he took her down a dark road in The Woodlands, he parked, fondle her breasts and then forced her to fellate him. That’s not what he told the congregation.

I hope he resigns because I really do not want to spend my long weekend freezing my butt off in Memphis protesting at that church. (Yes, I have priced tickets. Yes, I think there might be some outraged locals who can take up the slack.)

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:51:41am

re: #209 HappyWarrior

After Fire and Fury and Rise of the Fall of the Third Reich, I’m going to require some light reading. I’m thinking The Guns of August.

My wife is reading “Madness on the Orient Express” (a Cthulu fanfic) for light reading now.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:53:26am

re: #213 Anymouse 🌹

My wife is reading “Madness on the Orient Express” (a Cthulu fanfic) for light reading now.

I was sort of being silly since Guns of August isn’t light at all, it’s about the lead up to WWI. That sounds fun though. I’m probably going to tackle a novel next. I’m thinking I may finally tackle Updike’s Rabbit tetralogy or the Dos Passos America trilogy.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:55:14am

My wife is making breakfast, after which I need to go out and take water samples from homes for the state.

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dangerman  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:55:50am

re: #214 HappyWarrior

I was sort of being silly since Guns of August isn’t light at all, it’s about the lead up to WWI. That sounds fun though. I’m probably going to tackle a novel next. I’m thinking I may finally tackle Updike’s Rabbit tetralogy or the Dos Passos America trilogy.

i finished the bernie gunther serices (h/t bratwurst)
now working on the harry hole series by jo nesbo

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:57:07am

re: #216 dangerman

i finished the bernie gunther serices (h/t bratwurst)
now working on the harry hole series by jo nesbo

Very cool. I have Rise and Fall of the Third Reich on Audible. Appreciate Klys suggesting I get into Audiobooks. Plus with so many German names and places in this one, it helps to have a reader. I always butcher German much to my brother- the German speaker’s horror.

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ObserverArt  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:58:03am

re: #191 HappyWarrior

Come on. I’m not a fan of nominating her either or the quacks she’s promoted like McCarthy, Dr. Phil, and Dr. Oz but I think she would know better not to make McCarthy surgeon general.

Question, because I think you bring up an important point.

Would she know better?

The reason I pose the question is it goes to what I posted about seriousness for the office.

If she would know better about not appointing some of the woo-peddlers she has had on her show…why does she put the woo-peddlers on her show in the first place?

Add in she actually interviewed and asked Trump about a presidential run knowing his reputation and does it make one wonder if all the stuff associated with Oprah’s show was just to make money (similar to Trump’s many questionable BS businesses)?

Are there similar traits between the two as far as business drive and using questionable people and products to make money?

(If we are doing anything…we have the Oprah for President vetting process underway at LGF)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:00:04am

re: #218 ObserverArt

IF it came down to DT vs Oprah, I would certainly favor Oprah.

I really do not want to see either on the ticket in 2020

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:02:30am

re: #218 ObserverArt

Question, because I think you bring up an important point.

Would she know better?

The reason I pose the question is it goes to what I posted about seriousness for the office.

If she would know better about not appointing some of the woo-peddlers she has had on her show…why does she put the woo-peddlers on her show in the first place?

Add in she actually interviewed and asked Trump about a presidential run knowing his reputation and does it make one wonder if all the stuff associated with Oprah’s show was just to make money (similar to Trump’s many questionable BS businesses)?

Are there similar traits between the two as far as business drive and using questionable people and products to make money?

(If we are doing anything…we have the Oprah for President vetting process underway at LGF)

That’s a fair point. Why do I think that though? I think if she were nominated and elected by the American people, she’d be smart enough to see that the American people would not want McCarthy as Surgeon General or similiar appointments. You do make a fair point though about those she’s had on the show though. As I said though, right now, I’m leaning Harris’s way. Immigration is my baby issue and I think she’s the best to speak on it given her sponsorship of DREAM and I think she’s the only one who has both parents for immigrants that is running. I do like Booker, Gillibrand, and Duckworth too. Cory for his criminal justice views, Gilirband because she’s shown leadership (one of the first Senators to support SSM for example), and Duckworth because she’s tough as hell and would be good on vets issues.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:05:46am

Has Shitler rage tweeted yet about his vast expertise and knowledge of the National Anthem?

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ObserverArt  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:06:53am

re: #211 HappyWarrior

BTW has anyone seen ggt or TimothyWatson lately? Don’t think I’ve seen Tim since the eve of the November elections or ggt since around the same time. She always liked discussing books and I remember she was reading GoA at one point.

Both seem to have stopped posting. GGT seems to have gotten into creating T-Shirt designs and learning Photoshop.

Maybe all of this is just too much for people to even want to discuss any longer.

I certainly understand, but it is nice to know people are still around and doing okay.

There are others too. I wonder about our diver from Tennessee too, and the guy with the all one all black and one tuxedo cat from Philly/Jersey(?).

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makeitstop  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:08:05am

re: #217 HappyWarrior

Very cool. I have Rise and Fall of the Third Reich on Audible. Appreciate Klys suggesting I get into Audiobooks. Plus with so many German names and places in this one, it helps to have a reader. I always butcher German much to my brother- the German speaker’s horror.

I started ‘Unfaithful Songs and Disappearing Ink,’ Elvis Costello’s autobiography, last night. It’s gonna be a long read, but Declan’s one of my favorite songwriters so I’m all in.

I never knew that he came from a line of professional musicians. I get the feeling I’m going to learn a lot more about him as I get deeper in.

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MsJ  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:08:29am

re: #220 HappyWarrior

That’s a fair point. Why do I think that though? I think if she were nominated and elected by the American people, she’d be smart enough to see that the American people would not want McCarthy as Surgeon General or similiar appointments. You do make a fair point though about those she’s had on the show though. As I said though, right now, I’m leaning Harris’s way. Immigration is my baby issue and I think she’s the best to speak on it given her sponsorship of DREAM and I think she’s the only one who has both parents for immigrants that is running. I do like Booker, Gillibrand, and Duckworth too. Cory for his criminal justice views, Gilirband because she’s shown leadership (one of the first Senators to support SSM for example), and Duckworth because she’s tough as hell and would be good on vets issues.

I doubt she would do McCarthy, only because Jenny is overall pretty stupid, but I would hesitate to think she wouldn’t do a Dr. Oz (who is an actual doctor).

I don’t think Oprah is stupid by any means, but I find Oz and Phil to be the most unreal bullshit artists around. And I hate Dr Oz for putting my MILs life in danger as she likes to listen to his bullshit and ignore what her real life doctor says. Seriously…fuck that guy.

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MsJ  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:09:01am

re: #221 Dr. Matt

Has Shitler rage tweeted yet about his vast expertise and knowledge of the National Anthem?

I have come to look forward to the morning rage tweets. Thus far, I have seen nothing.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:10:10am
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Dave In Austin  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:10:19am

re: #218 ObserverArt

What would you say if Barack Obama has her back.

We may have to get used to this. For me the bottom line is I want Trump OUT. Period FULL FUCKING STOP.

If is takes Oprah, fine! She’ll learn what she can’t figure out. I’ll give her the benefit is it comes to it.

The DNC also better get this as a wake up call. Who they got? Who’d got the cheevos to deal with the Trump insult machine? Because regardless how you feel, whoever the Dems put out will need to be able put up with as well as give whatever Dickhead puts out.

This is our current reality folks…. yay democrats!

Message from the DNC - SNL

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Belafon  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:10:34am

re: #225 MsJ

I have come to look forward to the morning rage tweets. Thus far, I have seen nothing.

He’s probably learning the song, and then we’ll get a video of him singing it correctly, and every Republican will substitute that video in their minds for what happened at the game.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:12:05am

re: #224 MsJ

I doubt she would do McCarthy, only because Jenny is overall pretty stupid, but I would hesitate to think she wouldn’t do a Dr. Oz (who is an actual doctor).

I don’t think Oprah is stupid by any means, but I find Oz and Phil to be the most unreal bullshit artists around. And I hate Dr Oz for putting my MILs life in danger as she likes to listen to his bullshit and ignore what her real life doctor says. Seriously…fuck that guy.

I don’t disagree with you there.

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JordanRules  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:13:31am

Thread.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:17:18am

re: #208 Belafon

Possibly, but it’s also a slightly different book. Wolff’s book is “What in the Hell is Actually Happening in the White House.”

Yes, of course.

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ObserverArt  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:17:46am

re: #227 Dave In Austin

What would you say if Barack Obama has her back.

We may have to get used to this. For me the bottom line is I want Trump OUT. Period FULL FUCKING STOP.

If is takes Oprah, fine! She’ll learn what she can’t figure out. I’ll give her the benefit is it comes to it.

The DNC also better get this as a wake up call. Who they got? Who’d got the cheevos to deal with the Trump insult machine? Because regardless how you feel, whoever the Dems put out will need to be able put up with as well as give whatever Dickhead puts out.

This is our current reality folks…. yay democrats!

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I am not making any decisions. Since Oprah is a hot topic I am just contributing to that. It is two years away and I think and worry Oprah may be taking away the focus on 2018.

As far as your question…I’d be surprised. I’m sure they are great friends and admirers. But I think Obama might even caution her on a run.

I want Trump out too. But I also want a solid politician that knows the ropes and can get elected for two terms because there is a good chance for that to happen after Trump.

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JordanRules  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:18:29am

Joe is running. Gross.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:19:36am

re: #230 JordanRules

So when do we admit that this country IS NOT a democracy given the widespread voter suppression tactics?

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plansbandc  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:20:43am

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JordanRules  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:23:23am

re: #234 Patricia Kayden

Right!
I believe it was North Carolina that was recently rated as such. Not a democracy. The fight for the blue wave is going to be critically tough, but we should hope to have a stronger democracy if we make it thru.

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ObserverArt  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:23:54am

And yes…the Democrats in power are elderly.

Who created that issue?

You could say too many years of no one getting into politics on the Democratic side of things.

Note too, there are many elderly Republicans of the same age as Pelosi and Chuck Schumer. The only thing that has seemingly brought younger people to the Republican party are the Religious Right types.

Hopefully younger people are discovering the need. Seems to be the case.

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Belafon  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:24:01am

re: #234 Patricia Kayden

So when do we admit that this country IS NOT a democracy given the widespread voter suppression tactics?

We’ll just have to win offices and make those illegal. We might not be a complete democracy, but we can still fight.

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Belafon  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:24:38am

re: #238 ObserverArt

And yes…the Democrats in power are elderly.

Who created that issue?

You could say too many years of no one getting into politics on the Democratic side of things.

Note too, there are many elderly Republicans of the same age as Pelosi and Chuck Schumer. The only thing that has seemingly brought younger people to the Republican party are the Religious Right types.

Hopefully younger people are discovering the need. Seems to be the case.

Yep, look at VA.

Edit: I think too many Democrats thought things were working pretty well, and if they weren’t, someone else would fix it. I think that’s changing.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:24:54am

I decided to check on Rage Furby’s California complaint against Gawker. It is still dragging on, as it seems he keeps delaying appearing for a show cause order.

Now the hearing is scheduled for March 22, almost a year after the original one, IIRC.

The docket number is 15CECG03734 and the court documents are at this website publicportal.fresno.courts.ca.gov

Chuck filed this cockamamie complaint pro se, but now it seems he has found a lawyer to represent him. I downloaded the lawyer’s response to the show cause order, arguing in part that plaintiff did not make his appearance because:

19. Plainfiffs’ counsel, despite having entered his appearance, was not issued notice thereof; The Clerk’s Certificate of Mailing shows it was mistakenly mailed by The Clerk To Plaintiff Charles C. Johnson personally and it was not
mailed at all to Plaintiff Got News, LLC. Thus, Plaintiffs’ counsel lacked notice of the June 15, 2017 proceedings.

Chuck and his wife are, as far as I know, the only partners in the LLC, so it puzzles me how delivering the notice to Johnson’s personal mail address would be any kind of excuse.

For the record, Chuck filed this argle-bargle in December 2015!

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ObserverArt  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:27:02am

re: #234 Patricia Kayden

So when do we admit that this country IS NOT a democracy given the widespread voter suppression tactics?

Better question…when are we going to put a stop to it? Many of the members here certainly know it is a huge issue and would agree with you about how it appears.

And another point to that is civics lessons in schools. I bet a lot of people below the age of about 45 might not even know what you are talking about.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:29:06am

re: #240 Belafon

Yep, look at VA.

Edit: I think too many Democrats thought things were working pretty well, and if they weren’t, someone else would fix it. I think that’s changing.

I’m biased but VA is a great lesson. Perriello whom I supported acted exactly how Bernie should have when he lost to HRC.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:32:26am

Obama is said to want Deval Patrick. Need to look at what his record of Governor of Massachusetts was like and what his big issues have been. Biden is probably running and as much as I like Joe, sorry Joe.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:34:07am

re: #146 GlutenFreeJesus

I down dinged you because posting that photo mirrors the RWNJ’s.

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JordanRules  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:34:53am

re: #242 ObserverArt

From my experience, many young voters are aware of voter suppression and are helping to fight it. Spread the Vote is one such organization that focuses on getting people IDs so they can vote.

We need to engage and educate more folks for sure though.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:38:06am

Preliminary search into Patrick. Guy seems to be more what I’d want out of a future AG, SCOTUS, or important judge than POTUS.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:39:29am

What I want out of candidates: Character, liberal bonafides, experience, empathy.

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MsJ  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:40:21am

re: #244 HappyWarrior

Obama is said to want Deval Patrick. Need to look at what his record of Governor of Massachusetts was like and what his big issues have been. Biden is probably running and as much as I like Joe, sorry Joe.

I love Joe. I would gladly vote for him if he made it through the primaries. I would rather see Joe with a young VP. There’d be no whining about experience or war mongering or anything else the right wants to throw at him.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:41:38am

re: #244 HappyWarrior

Obama is said to want Deval Patrick. Need to look at what his record of Governor of Massachusetts was like and what his big issues have been. Biden is probably running and as much as I like Joe, sorry Joe.

Patrick is probably a really nice guy but he strikes me as boring. Not sure if he could get enough people excited although I would vote for him simply because anyone is better than Trump.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:43:04am

re: #244 HappyWarrior

Obama is said to want Deval Patrick. Need to look at what his record of Governor of Massachusetts was like and what his big issues have been. Biden is probably running and as much as I like Joe, sorry Joe.

His office paid attention to the little things, if this matters:

Immediately after the Boston Marathon bombing, I drafted and got past my village board a proclamation declaring solidarity of our village in Nebraska with the people of Massachusetts.

Governor Patrick’s office sent a response back to us thanking us.

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dangerman  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:43:18am

re: #235 plansbandc

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glad you still got your sense of humor

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Dr. Matt  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:45:58am

Megyn Kelly: One thing Hillary Clinton never did in 25 years of public life ‘was inspire anybody’

The asshole believes she speaks for the entire planet over the last 25 years.

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dangerman  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:46:36am

re: #241 wheat-dogg

I decided to check on Rage Furby’s California complaint against Gawker. It is still dragging on, as it seems he keeps delaying appearing for a show cause order.

Now the hearing is scheduled for March 22, almost a year after the original one, IIRC.

The docket number is 15CECG03734 and the court documents are at this website publicportal.fresno.courts.ca.gov

Chuck filed this cockamamie complaint pro se, but now it seems he has found a lawyer to represent him. I downloaded the lawyer’s response to the show cause order, arguing in part that plaintiff did not make his appearance because:

Chuck and his wife are, as far as I know, the only partners in the LLC, so it puzzles me how delivering the notice to Johnson’s personal mail address would be any kind of excuse.

For the record, Chuck filed this argle-bargle in December 2015!

i was involved in a small claims case a few years back
defendant admitted to the judge she received the summons and “threw it in the garbage without reading it”
judge ruled there was no service of process

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:48:12am

re: #251 Anymouse 🌹

His office paid attention to the little things, if this matters:

Immediately after the Boston Marathon bombing, I drafted and got past my village board a proclamation declaring solidarity of our village in Nebraska with the people of Massachusetts.

Governor Patrick’s office sent a response back to us thanking us.

I do like seeing that. Attentive: Another good trait.

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Belafon  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:48:32am

re: #253 Dr. Matt

Megyn Kelly: One thing Hillary Clinton never did in 25 years of public life ‘was inspire anybody’

The asshole believes she speaks for the entire planet over the last 25 years.

She’ll probably hear a lot back on that. I suspect there’s a lot of newly elected VA officials who will have an issue.

I noticed that the National Inquirer has targeted Megyn.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:48:36am

re: #253 Dr. Matt

Megyn Kelly: One thing Hillary Clinton never did in 25 years of public life ‘was inspire anybody’

The asshole believes she speaks for the entire planet over the last 25 years.

Those never inspired people voted for her in greater numbers than Donald Trump.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:48:59am

re: #253 Dr. Matt

Megyn Kelly: One thing Hillary Clinton never did in 25 years of public life ‘was inspire anybody’

The asshole believes she speaks for the entire planet over the last 25 years.

Tell that to the women who got involved in public office because of her, Ms. my claim to fame is insisting that Santa Claus was a white man.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:49:19am

re: #257 Anymouse 🌹

Those never inspired people voted for her in greater numbers than Donald Trump.

By 3 million plus people. But who cares about them. //

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:50:10am

re: #249 MsJ

I love Joe. I would gladly vote for him if he made it through the primaries. I would rather see Joe with a young VP. There’d be no whining about experience or war mongering or anything else the right wants to throw at him.

Right, that would be my preference. I like Joe but he wouldn’t be among my first choices. If he were the nominee? Of course, I’d vote and campaign for him enthusiastically. I like the guy but I think we have better options.

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John Carter  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:50:25am

re: #182 ObserverArt

Saw some video of both that show and also of Trump saying he would consider Oprah as a running mate.

Made me cringe. The idea of Oprah being open to Trump in the past has me worried about the future. I would think Oprah would know all about Trump’s rather inglorious past and if she actually was serious I have big questions about seriousness.

HE said that but she was not part of that. You have to know by now that he just throws out ideas on a whim.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:50:34am

re: #255 HappyWarrior

I do like seeing that. Attentive: Another good trait.

The Governor of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, His Excellency (as styled by the Mass. Constitution) Deval L. Patrick responded to Broadwater’s Proclamation of Support after the Boston Marathon bombing:

May 13, 2013

Board of Trustees
Village of Broadwater, Nebraska
PO Box 70
Broadwater, NE 69125-0070

Dear Friends,
Thanks so much for your proclamation and your good thoughts. We are all shocked by the events of Marathon Monday, but we are resilient. I truly believe the grace of the Marathon tragedy exposed is the best of who we are, and I am confident that we will recover, repair, and heal. Knowing that you and so many others around the world are standing with us only strengthens our resolve.
Sincerely,
Deval L. Patrick
________________________________________
The text of original proclamation I wrote and laid before the Village Board of Broadwater, Nebraska on May 6, 2013 is below. The proclamation passed unanimously.
________________________________________
PROCLAMATION IN SUPPORT OF THE CITIES OF BOSTON, CAMBRIGE, AND WATERTOWN, AND THE COMMONWEALTH OF MASSACHUSETTS

WHEREAS, the Boston Marathon is the Oldest and Best-Known Modern Marathon, first staged in 1897, drawing hundreds of thousands of athletes, fans, family members, and spectators from around the world in friendly competition, and

WHEREAS, the Craven and Cowardly Acts of Terrorism on April 15, 2013 in the City of Boston, Massachusetts, on the State Holiday in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts of Patriots’ Day, marked by that Commonwealth in honor of the Battles of Concord and Lexington and the start of the American Revolution, and

WHEREAS, the equally Craven and Cowardly Acts of Terrorism on April 18, 2013 at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology in the City of Cambridge, Massachusetts, and those of April 19, 2013 in the City of Watertown, Massachusetts all stand as a Reminder to those who struggle for Liberty around the world that such events do not rend the Nation asunder, but draw It together:

BE IT HEREBY RESOLVED: That the People and Village of Broadwater, Nebraska stand in solidarity with the People and Cities of Boston, Cambridge, and Watertown, and the Commonwealth of Massachusetts; that its Village Board urges the People of Broadwater to whatever Acts of Charity they can accomplish for the People and Cities of Boston, Cambridge, and Watertown; and that the People of Broadwater hold the Police, Athletes, the Spectators, their Families and Friends, the People of the Cities of Boston, Cambridge, Watertown, and the Commonwealth of Massachusetts in their Prayers or Thoughts.

IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand this sixth day of May, in the year two thousand thirteen, and until July 4, of the Independence of the United States of America the two hundred thirty-seventh.

REX LEISY, Chairman of the Board of Trustees, Village of Broadwater, Nebraska.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:51:04am

re: #256 Belafon

She’ll probably hear a lot back on that. I suspect there’s a lot of newly elected VA officials who will have an issue.

I noticed that the National Inquirer has targeted Megyn.

Indeed, we elected a lot of women this fall including Danica Roem who give HRC lots of props. Megyn’s just bitter because we’re going to remember HRC 100 years from now. Megyn? Megyn Who?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:52:27am

re: #250 Patricia Kayden

Patrick is probably a really nice guy but he strikes me as boring. Not sure if he could get enough people excited although I would vote for him simply because anyone is better than Trump.

Well I don’t really care about “boring” personally in my personal support. I’m looking for a President, not a cheerleader. If Patrick can show he has the right ideas and that he can govern effectively in debates and other things, I’m fine if he’s less than charismatic.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:52:57am

re: #211 HappyWarrior

BTW has anyone seen ggt or TimothyWatson lately? Don’t think I’ve seen Tim since the eve of the November elections or ggt since around the same time. She always liked discussing books and I remember she was reading GoA at one point.

I’ve seen GGT occasionally. Timothy seems to be missing though.

Anyone know him in meat world?

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:54:04am

re: #260 HappyWarrior

Right, that would be my preference. I like Joe but he wouldn’t be among my first choices. If he were the nominee? Of course, I’d vote and campaign for him enthusiastically. I like the guy but I think we have better options.

I love Joe but he’s too old. We need someone young and dynamic to contrast with either Trump or Pence or Ryan (or whoever may actually be running on the GOP side — a lot will happen between now and 2020).

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:54:34am

So Humble

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allegro  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:55:09am

re: #114 HappyWarrior

My greatest disappointment last year was the exposure of how much sexism still exists in our society and it ain’t just the right that’s guilty.

re: #120 JordanRules

Seeing her resume continue to get disrespected like this…
Maybe it’s cause the empire she built was mostly for, by and about women.

You can not want her for President without doing this.

re: #245 Stanley Sea

I down dinged you because posting that photo mirrors the RWNJ’s.

I have been so disgusted by much of what I’ve read here since the JOKE about Oprah running. It’s been a contemptuous trash fest of an accomplished woman who not only earned her wealth and power but has used it to try to leave the place better than she found it.

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Targetpractice  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:55:35am

re: #253 Dr. Matt

Megyn Kelly: One thing Hillary Clinton never did in 25 years of public life ‘was inspire anybody’

The asshole believes she speaks for the entire planet over the last 25 years.

From article:

“That’s something Trump is very good at doing, separating the wheat from the chaff and going right to his direct message,” she opined. “Whether you like the message or not, he knows how to message to people and be heard in a way that was very effective for him.”

Yes, he was very effective…at getting the media to follow his every speech on the campaign trail, even getting them to devote air time to an empty podium. He spoke largely in campaign slogans, which worked great for the brain-dead audience he was aiming for.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:57:38am

re: #267 Ace-o-aces

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So Humble

Pence is a lying moron just like Dear Leader.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:57:54am

re: #265 Stanley Sea

I’ve seen GGT occasionally. Timothy seems to be missing though.

Anyone know him in meat world?

Unfortunately, I don’t. I hope he’s just taking a break.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:59:02am

re: #267 Ace-o-aces

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So Humble

LOL I remember when Pence said that. Humble and self-control? Yeah Mike that’s not your boss at all lol. That’s not you either.

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MsJ  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:59:30am

re: #270 Hecuba’s daughter

Pence is a lying moron just like Dear Leader.

But lyin’ for jesus is okie dokie.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:00:13am

re: #266 Hecuba’s daughter

I love Joe but he’s too old. We need someone young and dynamic to contrast with either Trump or Pence or Ryan (or whoever may actually be running on the GOP side — a lot will happen between now and 2020).

That’s why he wouldn’t be my choice. He’s turning 76 this year. I prefaced that with if he’s the nominee, he has my full support and I’d campaign for him. Most of my picks are between 45-60.

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Belafon  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:01:23am

re: #120 JordanRules

Seeing her resume continue to get disrespected like this…
Maybe it’s cause the empire she built was mostly for, by and about women.

You can not want her for President without doing this.

I’m not sure I get this. Is there no way we can say that her business experience is not a good justification for president given what we’ve seen from others who’ve run on business experience, Bush 2 and Trump? Or that, considering who she’s picked to adviser her and others on things might raise questions about who she would pick to surround herself with as president?

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Targetpractice  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:01:52am

re: #263 HappyWarrior

Indeed, we elected a lot of women this fall including Danica Roem who give HRC lots of props. Megyn’s just bitter because we’re going to remember HRC 100 years from now. Megyn? Megyn Who?

Megyn’s bitter that her own “legacy” will be as one of the worst decisions ever made by NBC execs.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:02:05am

We’re going to have an open field though which is good. The two I definitely don’t want at this point are: Gabbard and Sanders. Not huge on Warren honestly either because while I iike her more than Bernie and Gabbard, I don’t see her as a president. I do think she’d get in Trump’s head though which she already is but I’m not in the business of just spiting the right. I Want someone who I feel can confront the difficult issues we’re going to face.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:02:22am

re: #276 Targetpractice

Megyn’s bitter that her own “legacy” will be as one of the worst decisions ever made by NBC execs.

She’s a terrible journalist.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:03:03am

re: #178 Belafon

Google, Twitter face new lawsuits alleging discrimination against conservative voices

I figure the title’s enough to tell you what snowflakes these white guys are, guys who’d have no problem firing someone for being black or gay.

Guess Google and Twitter won’t bake a cake for them.

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John Carter  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:03:25am

re: #185 Old Liberal

If Hillary had been elected (and I voted for her), many bad things would not have happened, but it would have been no picnic as we know. Endless “investigations”, brutal obstruction from conservatives, even Constitution-threatening acts (refusing to approve judges, even Supreme Court, defiant conservative states, etc.). So we would have a different mess and somewhat better, but it would be an environment where conservatives could use it to further their entrenchment in federal and state government. I’m not an optimist, don’t believe in it, but as a strategist, I see we are in crisis but a different kind of crisis. Bad things are happening, but people are waking up. Conservatives are being exposed. Democratic leadership is being exposed. Necessity is indeed the mother of invention. Trump is the Chinese character that means both “opportunity” and “danger”. We’ve got a multi-year slog ahead, and there is no certainty of victory, but I think we all see several paths to a better tomorrow.

I agree with this. Somewhere there is a list of people who 2017 did not got as expected.

I said to my wife after his victory that a lot of horrible things are going to happen that will show people that both parties are not the same. In the long run it may be good for the left, we will see, but in the short run a lot of vulnerable people will be hurt.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:03:26am

Arpaio for Senate is happening.

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:03:45am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:04:08am

re: #282 Ace-o-aces

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I win! But you had a link.

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ObserverArt  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:04:59am

re: #268 allegro

I have been so disgusted by much of what I’ve read here since the JOKE about Oprah running. It’s been a contemptuous trash fest of an accomplished woman who not only earned her wealth and power but has used it to try to leave the place better than she found it.

A joke that a lot of people are seriously running with to the point where we see stuff like this: People Magazine - Oprah Winfrey’s Longtime Partner Stedman Graham Says She Would ‘Absolutely’ Run for President

Oprah Winfrey laughed when Seth Meyers used reverse psychology to encourage her to run for president in 2020 (with Tom Hanks on the ticket, no less!) during the 2018 Golden Globe Awards — but almost everyone, including longtime partner Stedman Graham, is in support of the idea.

“It’s up to the people,” Graham told the Los Angeles Times. “She would absolutely do it.”

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MsJ  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:06:04am

re: #276 Targetpractice

Megyn’s bitter that her own “legacy” will be as one of the worst decisions ever made by NBC execs.

Yeah, she’s still not doing well. NBC wants to move her to a later hour, but, per her contract, she has final approval.

With Matt Lauer’s firing and Hoda Kotb’s promotion, the Today show has experienced major changes lately. And Megyn Kelly may be bearing the brunt of the talent upheaval!

Show producers are looking to move Kelly’s ratings-challenged 9 a.m. show back one hour in order to slate Kotb and Kathie Lee Gifford in the more attractive time slot, a show insider told radaronline.com exclusively.

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MsJ  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:06:55am

re: #278 HappyWarrior

She’s a terrible “journalist”.

She’s not a journalist, she is a “journalist” like the way the National Enquirer is a newspaper.

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JordanRules  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:07:19am

re: #275 Belafon

I’m talking about not acknowledging her as a ridiculously accomplished business woman and philanthropist.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:07:43am

Moreover, in Gov. Patrick’s response to us, his office noted we’d passed a proclamation, not sent a letter or something. At least someone in the office read the proclamation and took the time to respond to it as such.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:08:23am

re: #286 MsJ

She’s not a journalist, she is a “journalist” like the way the National Enquirer is a newspaper.

Touche.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:08:54am

re: #288 Anymouse 🌹

Moreover, in Gov. Patrick’s response to us, his office noted we’d passed a proclamation, not sent a letter or something. At least someone in the office read the proclamation and took the time to respond to it as such.

And that speaks to another quality I value- delegation. He’s got good people working for him. I’ll have to see more of him. Hell we don’t even know if he’s running.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:09:17am

re: #276 Targetpractice

Megyn’s bitter that her own “legacy” will be as one of the worst decisions ever made by NBC execs.

Megyn should serve as an example to every Fox on-air “talent” that they are tainted and will fail if they leave the racist, misogynist comfy confines of FNC.

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John Carter  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:09:54am

re: #207 HappyWarrior

I like Tammy Duckworth too. Kamala is my favorite right now since she sponsored DREAM and DREAM is a big issue for me. I know a lot of immigrants given my brother’s extended family and my line of work.

Who is the better communicator? Duckworth? Kamala? I don’t think Duckworth has the chops and I have never heard Kamala speak so idk.

You guys, we have to find someone who is a good communicator. That person will hire, appoint the right people. Suggesting Oprah would make Dr. Phil attorney general is carrying the right’s water for them. It is no wonder we lost in 2016 with that bullshit.

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:10:17am
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ObserverArt  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:10:55am

Stanley Sea…if you are reading.

If Oprah runs for President what you are reading here will be mild by comparison.

I think you admonished some of us last week or so to “stay strong.”

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:11:04am

re: #286 MsJ

She’s not a journalist, she is a “journalist” like the way the National Enquirer is a newspaper.

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John Carter  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:11:14am

re: #217 HappyWarrior

Very cool. I have Rise and Fall of the Third Reich on Audible. Appreciate Klys suggesting I get into Audiobooks. Plus with so many German names and places in this one, it helps to have a reader. I always butcher German much to my brother- the German speaker’s horror.

Rise and Fall should be required reading.

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Old Liberal  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:11:43am

re: #291 Dr. Matt

Megyn should serve as an example to every Fox on-air “talent” that they are tainted and will fail if they leave the racist, misogynist comfy confines of FNC.

Do we have a sense of what has happened to viewership at Fox since the big departures. Ailes, O’Reilling, etc……..actual ratings, not relative. I am wondering if they used to get a 6 rating and now getting a 4. Don’t really care at this point how it is relative to MSNBC, just wondering if conservatives are turning it off.

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MsJ  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:12:01am

re: #295 Ace-o-aces

Where’s that Kristen Ritter eye roll. That’s what this needs.

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John Carter  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:12:29am

re: #220 HappyWarrior

That’s a fair point. Why do I think that though? I think if she were nominated and elected by the American people, she’d be smart enough to see that the American people would not want McCarthy as Surgeon General or similiar appointments. You do make a fair point though about those she’s had on the show though. As I said though, right now, I’m leaning Harris’s way. Immigration is my baby issue and I think she’s the best to speak on it given her sponsorship of DREAM and I think she’s the only one who has both parents for immigrants that is running. I do like Booker, Gillibrand, and Duckworth too. Cory for his criminal justice views, Gilirband because she’s shown leadership (one of the first Senators to support SSM for example), and Duckworth because she’s tough as hell and would be good on vets issues.

BTW - I did not want to suggest earlier that you were making that point.

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:13:27am
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allegro  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:13:32am

re: #294 ObserverArt

Stanley Sea…if you are reading.

If Oprah runs for President what you are reading here will be mild by comparison.

I think you admonished some of us last week or so to “stay strong.”

It’s that we’re reading it here. Here. I thought we were supposed to be better than that.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:13:41am

re: #295 Ace-o-aces

On a somewhat related note is there anyone besides teenage boys who get that excited about a “nip slip”?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:14:24am

So Sheriff Joe the Pardoned Criminal is running for the Senate to support his pardoner pal…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:14:27am

Also, Arpaio needs to be in a seniors home, not a senate campaign.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:14:37am

re: #292 John Carter

Who is the better communicator? Duckworth? Kamala? I don’t think Duckworth has the chops and I have never heard Kamala speak so idk.

You guys, we have to find someone who is a good communicator. That person will hire, appoint the right people. Suggesting Oprah would make Dr. Phil attorney general is carrying the right’s water for them. It is no wonder we lost in 2016 with that bullshit.

I need to look. I’m just speaking to what I want personally. I agree about Oprah by the way. I’m not a fan of a hypothetical candidacy but there’s no need to be hyperbolic either.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:14:57am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:15:01am

re: #299 John Carter

BTW - I did not want to suggest earlier that you were making that point.

We’re square man.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:15:25am

re: #270 Hecuba’s daughter

Pence is a lying moron just like Dear Leader.

Pretty sure Pence is speaking to an orange audience of one, reinforcing behavioral expectations via flattery.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:15:48am

re: #300 Ace-o-aces

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This is the Ron Paul wing. We’re racist but we also like pot.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:17:29am

re: #306 Backwoods_Sleuth

Great, the Trump style of politics is going global.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:18:05am

re: #303 Joe Bacon 🌹

So Sheriff Joe the Pardoned Criminal is running for the Senate to support his pardoner pal…

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ObserverArt  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:18:21am

re: #301 allegro

It’s that we’re reading it here. Here. I thought we were supposed to be better than that.

Well, sometimes people have some strong opinions. It is politics.

My comment was meant to show that if LGF has some issues with Oprah it is an indication of what is in store for her and her supporters. The members here are passionate about their politics.

So…stay strong. We are all going to need to be.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:19:14am

re: #269 Targetpractice

From article:

Yes, he was very effective…at getting the media to follow his every speech on the campaign trail, even getting them to devote air time to an empty podium. He spoke largely in campaign slogans, which worked great for the brain-dead audience he was aiming for.

the empty podium was impressive. I was travelling at the time and Atlanta Airport was full of empty podium…while Hillary was giving a speech about better employment opportunities for handicapped people…and more empty podium

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:21:17am

Writing a page later on Oprah. Stay tuned.

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Belafon  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:21:33am

re: #292 John Carter

Who is the better communicator? Duckworth? Kamala? I don’t think Duckworth has the chops and I have never heard Kamala speak so idk.

You guys, we have to find someone who is a good communicator. That person will hire, appoint the right people. Suggesting Oprah would make Dr. Phil attorney general is carrying the right’s water for them. It is no wonder we lost in 2016 with that bullshit.

Duckworth has had some great moments on her committees, including taking on the guy who claimed disability for a foot injury while he was in the military academy. I haven’t gone looking for her speeches, though.

On the other hand, it’s perfectly valid to criticize her for the people she’s surrounded herself with and promoted. It’s one of the fundamental tasks of a president. It’s not carrying Republican water.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:22:39am

re: #300 Ace-o-aces

eliminate unnecessary government agencies including the United Nations + Federal Reserve.

He sounds interesting

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:24:14am

re: #316 Sir John Barron

He sounds interesting

He does know you can’t just eliminate the UN right? It’s not a US agency. Now if he wants to talk about that stupid idea to get the UN out of New York, a place I bet he’s never been to or will never visit, that’s another thing.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:25:33am

must be the officially scheduled “executive time”:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:26:14am
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Dr Lizardo  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:26:22am

re: #311 Backwoods_Sleuth

85 years old, huh?

Are you fucking. kidding. me?!

FFS, even if he got elected, I doubt he’d make it to end of his first term.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:26:58am

re: #293 Ace-o-aces

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Thank DOG I’m not driving in it. This afternoon is going to be a shitshow.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:27:03am

re: #318 Backwoods_Sleuth

But fuck all those unarmed black men who got shot for no reason.

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:28:24am
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Stanley Sea  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:28:59am

re: #294 ObserverArt

Stanley Sea…if you are reading.

If Oprah runs for President what you are reading here will be mild by comparison.

I think you admonished some of us last week or so to “stay strong.”

Being strong includes not being negative nellies & moaning about something that may not happen.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:29:46am
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Belafon  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:30:14am

re: #320 Dr Lizardo

85 years old, huh?

Are you fucking. kidding. me?!

FFS, even if he got elected, I doubt he’d make it to end of his first term.

Hell doesn’t want him.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:31:42am

re: #320 Dr Lizardo

85 years old, huh?

Are you fucking. kidding. me?!

FFS, even if he got elected, I doubt he’d make it to end of his first term.

It’s about the running, not the serving. Sound familiar?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:31:49am

*blink*

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gocart mozart  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:32:31am
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Dr Lizardo  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:33:23am

re: #329 gocart mozart

Heh.

I’m a member.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:35:14am

re: #328 Backwoods_Sleuth

*blink*

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Hey respect our cops but not our teachers. // Sigh. This is third world shit.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:35:48am

re: #330 Dr Lizardo

Heh.

I’m a member.

Do you get discounts if you’re a member?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:35:49am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:36:55am

hahahahaaa

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Targetpractice  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:37:13am

*snort* Big whoop, I was part of the Illuminati before it went all corporate.

//

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:37:43am

OH SHIT NOT AGAIN

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:38:16am

re: #329 gocart mozart

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I see he got off of his Rosicrucian kick…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:38:40am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:40:47am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:41:39am

he heard it on the teevee so it must be true!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:43:15am

re: #340 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump just told reporters he could beat Oprah in 2020… per WH pool.

This is just the sort of buzz they need: it keeps the press and the Twitters occupied while his people go about their business of dismantling government and selling it off to the highest bidder.

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John Carter  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:43:39am

re: #315 Belafon

Duckworth has had some great moments on her committees, including taking on the guy who claimed disability for a foot injury while he was in the military academy. I haven’t gone looking for her speeches, though.

On the other hand, it’s perfectly valid to criticize her for the people she’s surrounded herself with and promoted. It’s one of the fundamental tasks of a president. It’s not carrying Republican water.

OK, but you have to consider the context. She is/was an entertainer and in that role she found people like Oz and Phil who became successful in their own right. Put that down as a good eye for talent.

I mean you guys are funny, if she picked Vivek Murthy (who is probably brilliant) to be on her show would that have been the right forum for him?

You guys have to understand, as much as I hate Megan Kelly she is right about Trump’s communication skills to the masses. You know who else does that well? Oprah, Dr. Phil, Oz etc. I hate that we have to consider this, people should just practice basic critical thinking skills, read etc but we share a country with these folks and someone has to reach them.

You read the articles and we have all made the Blazing Saddle’s jokes about them being morons but you have to explain things to them if you want to win. That is the puzzle.

Look, Biden would have handled Trump in the election last year because he is good at making his point - he is a great folksy communicator. So was Bill Clinton who remained wildly popular because of his communication style (explainer in chief).

I love the Warrens of the world and the Duckworths but ZZZzzzzzz when they try to explain anything.

The president, as we all know, signs bills into law, appoints people to cabinet positions and judges etc and EXPLAINS THINGS to the american public. Find that person who is good at it and get behind them. All they are is a spokesperson.

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Belafon  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:43:40am

re: #340 Backwoods_Sleuth

he heard it on the teevee so it must be true!

“Why, Mr. President, are you paying attention to speculation your first year in office? Too much free time?”

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:45:37am

re: #332 HappyWarrior

Do you get discounts if you’re a member?

It’s the only place where you can redeem your SorosBux.

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Belafon  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:46:25am

re: #342 John Carter

OK, but you have to consider the context. She is/was an entertainer and in that role she found people like Oz and Phil who became successful in their own right. Put that down as a good eye for talent.

I mean you guys are funny, if she picked Vivek Murthy (who is probably brilliant) to be on her show would that have been the right forum for him?

You guys have to understand, as much as I hate Megan Kelly she is right about Trump’s communication skills to the masses. You know who else does that well? Oprah, Dr. Phil, Oz etc. I hate that we have to consider this, people should just practice basic critical thinking skills, read etc but we share a country with these folks and someone has to reach them.

You read the articles and we have all made the Blazing Saddle’s jokes about them being morons but you have to explain things to them if you want to win. That is the puzzle.

Look, Biden would have handled Trump in the election last year because he is good at making his point - he is a great folksy communicator. So was Bill Clinton who remained wildly popular because of his communication style (explainer in chief).

I love the Warrens of the world and the Duckworths but ZZZzzzzzz when they try to explain anything.

The president, as we all know, signs bills into law, appoints people to cabinet positions and judges etc and EXPLAINS THINGS to the american public. Find that person who is good at it and get behind them. All they are is a spokesperson.

So, she picks people because they were good for her show? I think we’ve watched the results of that. Like I said, her choices are as open to criticism as her successes are a basis for why she should be a nominee.

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ObserverArt  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:48:26am

re: #324 Stanley Sea

Being strong includes not being negative nellies & moaning about something that may not happen.

It also means not letting other’s comments get to you.

Which if I remember correctly was how you used it when I and others were getting frustrated about some LGF members being negative and moaning about Trump cannot be stopped and the Republicans will stop at nothing to protect him and their own.

And that is happening.

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JordanRules  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:49:21am
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John Carter  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:50:01am

re: #345 Belafon

So, she picks people because they were good for her show? I think we’ve watched the results of that. Like I said, her choices are as open to criticism as her successes are a basis for why she should be a nominee.

We have watched the results of that. They are wildly successful. I think anyone who suggests she would make the same kinds of entertainment oriented picks in office is either being obtuse or carrying water.

Honestly, is that a serious concern around here? She would nominate Dr. Phil for Surgeon General?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:50:13am

re: #347 JordanRules

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Convenient eh.

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ObserverArt  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:50:40am

re: #331 HappyWarrior

Hey respect our cops but not our teachers. // Sigh. This is third world shit.

The right hates teachers too. They indoctrinate people into being liberals by teaching them stuff.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:51:06am

re: #350 ObserverArt

The right hates teachers too. They indoctrinate people into being liberals by teaching them stuff.

Oh I know they do.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:54:04am
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Belafon  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:54:05am

re: #348 John Carter

We have watched the results of that. They are wildly successful. I think anyone who suggests she would make the same kinds of picks in office is either being obtuse or carrying water.

Honestly, is that a serious concern around here? She would nominate Dr. Phil for Surgeon General?

It’s not specific people, it’s the type of people.

And let me lay something down. Were she to become the nominee, after going through the primaries, I would support her. But, the government is not a business, and so decisions you make for business reasons don’t necessarily translate well into government decisions. But her choices and decisions are what we have to judge her by.

Edited for grammar, a little.

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lawhawk  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:55:38am

re: #318 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:56:06am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:57:59am

re: #355 Ace-o-aces

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Lol. You probably believed that Roy Moore would piss us off and too and instead you got Doug Jones. Try us. We’d love to put Joe in his political casket.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:58:25am

re: #355 Ace-o-aces

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Haha. Always Soros.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:58:44am

The New York Times swings for the wingnut fences again:

Author is David Brooks

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darthstar  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:58:46am

Okay…the thought crossed my mind so I counted. I average 27 tweets a day. That’s too fuckin’ many.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:00:26am
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Ace-o-aces  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:01:40am

re: #357 HappyWarrior

Haha. Always Soros.

If your going to accuse a man of running a global shadow government, at least learn to spell his name.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:02:24am

It looks like Trump put his foot in his mouth again. Very old trick: If you do not know the words keep your mouth shut.

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dangerman  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:04:39am

re: #358 Eclectic Cyborg

The New York Times swings for the wingnut fences again:

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Author is David Brooks

if it was ever in doubt, david brooks has gone full goose bozo loony

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ObserverArt  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:06:13am

re: #348 John Carter

We have watched the results of that. They are wildly successful. I think anyone who suggests she would make the same kinds of picks in office is either being obtuse or carrying water.

Honestly, is that a serious concern around here? She would nominate Dr. Phil for Surgeon General?

I think you are missing the point. You are taking it literal where others are taking it as example.

She has made people like Dr Phil and Dr Oz rich and popular. There are many that think both are simply quacks…no different than Trump University.

So it brings the question of her motivations to help them be, well, quacks and to choose to associate with them

Is that good character judgement for a future presidential hopeful? It is a concern and people are wondering, legitimately.

Or, do you not see them as questionable characters? Because if you don’t that may explain your stance and argument.

If she runs it will all need to be addressed if it is coming up here. Count on it. This place is pretty sharp. And even site owner Charles is not too fond of the idea.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:07:05am

re: #358 Eclectic Cyborg

The New York Times swings for the wingnut fences again:

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Author is David Brooks

Lol okay Mr. I tried to call liberals snobs by going to a traditional Italian deli.

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John Carter  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:07:20am

re: #353 Belafon

It’s not specific people, it’s the type of people.

And let me lay something down. Were she to become the nominee, after going through the primaries, I would support her. But, the government is not a business, and so decisions you make for business reasons don’t necessarily translate well into government decisions. But her choices and decisions are what we have to judge her by.

Edited for grammar, a little.

I am sure you would and like someone said above, she would have to answer these questions if she were to run.

I still think we need someone with her level of communication skills. Hers, Biden’s, Clinton’s, Bernie’s and yeah even Cheetos. We all need to keep in mind, they are not going to be running things on a day to day basis. They will be explaining things.

I don’t care if it is her or someone else with her skill-set and ideology (I can elaborate on why I think it is would align with ours).

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:08:06am

re: #361 Ace-o-aces

If your going to accuse a man of running a global shadow government, at least learn to spell his name.

No kidding. And man he’s everywhere. Spencer says he’s behind the anti-Iran government protests.

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wrenchwench  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:12:49am

re: #347 JordanRules

[Yesterday the @WhiteHouse told @HispanicCaucus Chair @RepLujanGrisham that she couldn’t attend because of “spacing issues”, yet we see this…That’s why we’re at the WH demanding a seat at the table]

@RepLujanGrisham is our next governor.

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John Carter  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:14:26am

re: #364 ObserverArt

I think you are missing the point. You are taking it literal where others are taking it as example.

She has made people like Dr Phil and Dr Oz rich and popular. There are many that think both are simply quacks…no different than Trump University.

So it brings the question of her motivations to help them be, well, quacks and to choose to associate with them

Is that good character judgement for a future presidential hopeful? It is a concern and people are wondering, legitimately.

Or, do you not see them as questionable characters? Because if you don’t that may explain your stance and argument.

If she runs it will all need to be addressed if it is coming up here. Count on it. This place is pretty sharp. And even site owner Charles is not too fond of the idea.

They are questionable characters to be sure but my point is she was not in the business of picking surgeon generals, she was picking entertainers. I am sure she would have to defend those choices.

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ObserverArt  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:15:59am

re: #366 John Carter

I am sure you would and like someone said above, she would have to answer these questions if she were to run.

I still think we need someone with her level of communication skills. Hers, Biden’s, Clinton’s, Bernie’s and yeah even Cheetos. We all need to keep in mind, they are not going to be running things on a day to day basis. They will be explaining things.

I don’t care if it is her or someone else with her skill-set and ideology (I can elaborate on why I think it is would align with ours).

And they will also be choosing very important positions to their cabinet and other government agencies, judges, etc.

Good communication skills by a president is very important. So is sound decision making on judging others.

And as Belafon said it is especially important since it is not about making money so business acumen is not as important as a rock solid character with a good knowledge of history, law, etc. . That couldn’t be more evident than with Trump.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:16:26am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:16:33am

re: #363 dangerman

The Quality of the Opposition

The majority of voters opposed Trump

The majority of those asked to rate his performance seem to be against him.

He was elected by the system

The polemic here is to find something in F&F that is inconsistent or not fully documented and hold it up as proof that it is all a fake and a fraud.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:17:36am

re: #368 wrenchwench
That will always be the excuse for Trump. He wants to run govenment the way he runs his so-called business. Only the people he has chosen are allowed and that can and will change as he sees fit.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:17:58am
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ObserverArt  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:18:28am

re: #369 John Carter

They are questionable characters to be sure but my point is she was not in the business of picking surgeon generals, she was picking entertainers. I am sure she would have to defend those choices.

Thanks for the answer. It helps to know where your viewpoint is.

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JordanRules  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:18:43am
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JordanRules  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:19:36am

re: #376 JordanRules

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stpaulbear  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:19:38am

re: #358 Eclectic Cyborg

The New York Times swings for the wingnut fences again:

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Author is David Brooks

I don’t even have to look to know that Brooks is being shredded in the comments. He gets piled on every time he writes one of these stupid pieces. I’m sure Maggie sees that as popularity. Every Brooks column is basically a stern lecture from a stinking rich white man.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:20:04am

re: #371 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Conservatives will love earmarks now.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:20:44am

re: #378 stpaulbear

I don’t even have to look to know that Brooks is being shredded in the comments. He gets piled on every time he writes one of these stupid pieces. I’m sure Maggie sees that as popularity. Every Brooks column is basically a stern lecture from a stinking rich white man.

A condescending one at that too. He’s a snob.

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John Carter  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:20:44am

re: #370 ObserverArt

And they will also be choosing very important positions to their cabinet and other government agencies, judges, etc.

Good communication skills by a president is very important. So is sound decision making on judging others.

And as Belafon said it is especially important since it is not about making money so business acumen is not as important as a rock solid character with a good knowledge of history, law, etc. . That couldn’t be more evident than with Trump.

I disagree. Job 1 through 100 is communication. I will say it again and it seems like the SNL folks agree with me: Do you want single payer? Gun control? Finance reform? Who would you like explaining the need for it to the masses Oprah or Pelosi, Kaine or Warren respectively? The are all fine people and their message resonates with me because I am part of the choir so to speak.

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ObserverArt  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:20:47am

re: #376 JordanRules

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Oh…gonna have some reading to do.

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wrenchwench  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:20:53am

re: #373 PhillyPretzel

That will always be the excuse for Trump. He wants to run govenment the way he runs his so-called business. Only the people he has chosen are allowed and that can and will change as he sees fit.

The White House is a ‘no fit’ for Trump.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:21:50am

re: #376 JordanRules

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I flipped on the tv a couple of times today and both times as I passed by Fox they were still on the Steele dossier and how the FBI used it to get FISA warrants. This should get them to stop it, but I doubt it will.

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Belafon  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:22:19am

re: #374 Barefoot Grin

Now there’s something worth talking about.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:22:37am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:23:26am

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:24:18am
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Stanley Sea  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:24:21am

I can’t believe they are showing this meeting - it shows how fucked up confused the yam is.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:25:24am
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sagehen  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:25:24am

re: #334 Backwoods_Sleuth

hahahahaaa

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It’s worth emphasizing that our junkaeological dig unearthed no whiff of scandal. Based on their throwaways, the chief, the DA and the mayor are squeaky-clean, poop-scooping folks whose private lives are beyond reproach. They emerge from this escapade smelling like—well, coffee grounds.

But if three moral, upstanding, public-spirited citizens were each chewing their nails about the secrets we might have stumbled on, how the hell should the rest of us be feeling?

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Belafon  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:25:42am

re: #389 Stanley Sea

I can’t believe they are showing this meeting - it shows how fucked up confused the yam is.

He thinks this will allow him to control the narrative, and hence, the legislation.

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ObserverArt  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:25:51am

re: #381 John Carter

I disagree. Job 1 through 100 is communication. I will say it again and it seems like the SNL folks agree with me: Do you want single payer? Gun control? Finance reform? Who would you like explaining the need for it to the masses Oprah or Pelosi, Kaine or Warren respectively? The are all fine people and their message resonates with me because I am part of the choir so to speak.

100% communications?

I said it is extremely important but so is a good cabinet to make what you are communicating actually able to be implemented and of course judges that will also help make it lawful.

Ever hear of the phrase “you’re all talk?”

I think that may even have been used against Obama.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:26:43am

re: #387 Backwoods_Sleuth

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell reaches out to “Hillbilly Elegy” author JD Vance about a potential Senate run

I very much enjoyed the first part of that book; it reminded me of my childhood in Gary, Indiana, and the hillbillies on our block who, even though they were white, seemed to belong to a separate ethnic group than the rest of the other blacks, Latinos, Central/Eastern European immigrants and other “normal” white folks who populated the neighborhood.

The rest of it quickly turned into a redneck soap opera and I lost interest.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:26:48am

He just agreed to do DACA.

Well, in words.

Which don’t matter.

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Belafon  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:27:12am

re: #391 sagehen

I thought it was ruled years ago that garbage is still private property?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:27:24am

re: #386 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Like your mother and grandparents ?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:28:10am
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ObserverArt  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:28:33am

re: #387 Backwoods_Sleuth

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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I held back on posting that as I was waiting for your response Sleuth. I heard that this AM on local news.

This country is going down the wrong road without a map and bad tires.

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Belafon  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:28:42am

re: #386 Backwoods_Sleuth

He has this weird idea that other governments control their people that heavily. Some do, but most of them don’t.

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stpaulbear  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:28:46am

re: #382 ObserverArt

Oh…gonna have some reading to do.

Something to read while waiting for back-ordered copies of Fire and Fury.

I’m about halfway through Katy Tur’s book about covering the Trump campaign. More of a personal journal. It’s pretty good, not stellar.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:29:09am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:29:58am
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Belafon  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:30:03am

re: #399 ObserverArt

I held back on posting that as I was waiting for your response Sleuth. I heard that this AM on local news.

This country is going down the wrong road without a map and bad tires.

It’s a suggestion for a run. All sorts of people run for office, or try to.

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Belafon  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:31:04am

McConnell’s desperate for a win this year.

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ObserverArt  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:31:27am

re: #389 Stanley Sea

I can’t believe they are showing this meeting - it shows how fucked up confused the yam is.

Good. I hope more and more American citizens/voters see it too.

The GOP politicians see it, they just put on the blinders so they can ignore it and continue to use him.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:32:10am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:32:14am

If Trump is called to testify before Mueller, it will go something like this.

He’ll lie, get called out on the lie.
He’ll lie again, get called out again.
Rinse and repeat.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:32:44am

re: #406 ObserverArt

Good. I hope more and more American citizens/voters see it too.

The GOP politicians see it, they just put on the blinders so they can ignore it and continue to use him.

They are happy: they know that he will sign anything they send his way, and regardless of what is in the bill, he will just get up and make unfounded statements about what he thinks should be in the bill.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:33:01am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:33:53am

re: #408 The Vicious Babushka

If Trump is called to testify before Mueller, it will go something like this.

He’ll lie, get called out on the lie.
He’ll lie again, get called out again.
Rinse and repeat.

Mueller will certainly ask him carefully formulated questions that he cannot talk his way around, and phrased in such a way that any attempt to improvise will trip him up in a web of contradictions.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:34:24am
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wrenchwench  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:34:41am

re: #396 Belafon

I thought it was ruled years ago that garbage is still private property?

That article:

Published December 23, 2002 Updated December 11, 2017

I can’t tell which part is the ‘updated’.

I saw the age when I saw the ‘Vera Katz’. She passed on December 11, 2017.

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gocart mozart  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:34:49am
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Amory Blaine  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:35:02am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:35:35am

awww…get well soon

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sagehen  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:37:10am

re: #386 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Cuba’s the only country that ever did that, the Mariel boatlift.

They were able to do it because we had announced, very publicly, that any Cuban who could somehow find their way here would be welcome, no questions asked.

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John Carter  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:37:56am

re: #393 ObserverArt

100% communications?

I said it is extremely important but so is a good cabinet to make what you are communicating actually able to be implemented and of course judges that will also help make it lawful.

Ever hear of the phrase “you’re all talk?”

I think that may even have been used against Obama.

LOL, Obama was not a great communicator. If you think he was then, like me, you were part of the choir. I thought/think he was brilliant! but the people around me, not so much.

Did he do a good job defending ACA? If you think so, then why does my landscaper who needs it more than I do hate the man for it?

Was he able to explain the need for better gun laws after Sandy Hook to the masses? Explain the need to rescue auto bailout and TARP? TARP have a bad taste in your mouth? Because it was never explained well. It was necessary but where he and everyone dropped the ball was not going after the bankers who necessitated the need thus creating the Tea Party (but I digress).

Look I love Obama and he spoke to ME but what many people heard was “blah blah blah” and then tuned in Fox to get their take on what he just said.

Whoever we elect will have advisers to help with the cabinet. Heck she/he will probably have Obama on speed dial or make him SOC or nominate him for the next supreme court position. Whoever we elect will not be all alone like who we have now or being advised by Bannon et al.

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stpaulbear  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:38:11am

re: #416 Backwoods_Sleuth

awww…get well soon

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Jeez. At first glance I thought that hospital robe was decorated with skull and crossbones.

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ObserverArt  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:41:11am

re: #418 John Carter

LOL, Obama was not a great communicator. If you think he was then, like me, you were part of the choir. I thought/think he was brilliant! but the people around me, not so much.

Did he do a good job defending ACA? If you think so, then why does my landscaper who needs it more than I do hate the man for it?

Was he able to explain the need for better gun laws after Sandy Hook to the masses? Explain the need to rescue auto bailout and TARP? TARP have a bad taste in your mouth? Because it was never explained well. It was necessary but where he and everyone dropped the ball was not going after the bankers who necessitated the need thus creating the Tea Party (but I digress).

Look I love Obama and he spoke to ME but what many people heard was “blah blah blah” and then tuned in Fox to get their take on what he just said.

Whoever we elect will have advisers to help with the cabinet. Heck she/he will probably have Obama on speed dial or make him SOC or nominate him for the next supreme court position. Whoever we elect will not be all alone like who we have now or being advised by Bannon et al.

I didn’t say he was. I was saying that he was criticized for being all talk as have others. It was just an example.

And truth be told…I cringe when anyone tells me to “look” as I see that as an arrogant command, like I am not paying attention. Governor Kasich here in Ohio does that all the time. I am fully capable of looking and reading and as you can tell, I am already engaged.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:41:12am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:41:38am

This is a man whose mother was an immigrant, whose first and current wives are, and whose grandparents were. He’s a racist. He’s got a problem with El Salvadorans because of their skin color.

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wrenchwench  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:42:14am

re: #413 wrenchwench

That article:

Published December 23, 2002 Updated December 11, 2017

I can’t tell which part is the ‘updated’.

I saw the age when I saw the ‘Vera Katz’. She passed on December 11, 2017.

And only in the Spy do I see the coincidental dates. (I usually see my typos there, after the editing period has expired.)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:43:51am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:45:39am

yes, it is.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:46:29am

re: #424 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He says that and then does something else. He doesn’t know DACA from Tribeca.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:46:44am

umm…ok…

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:46:55am

re: #402 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump has been doing the “orphaned primate hugging itself for comfort” thing for his entire press conference.

Somebody get that guy a teddy bear.

And a sippy cup.

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gocart mozart  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:47:53am

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:48:14am
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gocart mozart  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:51:11am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:52:08am

re: #432 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He has no expertise on any issue.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:53:07am
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Sir John Barron  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:54:27am

re: #430 Backwoods_Sleuth

Damn Dems trying to trip up and fool our greatest president of all time.

////

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:54:45am

re: #435 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Uh huh.

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makeitstop  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:55:20am

re: #378 stpaulbear

I don’t even have to look to know that Brooks is being shredded in the comments. He gets piled on every time he writes one of these stupid pieces. I’m sure Maggie sees that as popularity. Every Brooks column is basically a stern lecture from a stinking rich white man.

I’d bet driftglass is already sharpening the knife. Bobo is his favorite target.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 9, 2018 • 11:00:49am

re: #436 Sir John Barron

Damn Dems trying to trip up and fool our greatest president of all time.

////

They all met in Mensa Central and Trump had them twisting! ///////

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Sir John Barron  Jan 9, 2018 • 11:02:40am

re: #435 Backwoods_Sleuth

He’s hunted on the border with them, shot some illegals, took scalps.

/////

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jaunte  Jan 9, 2018 • 11:04:07am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2018 • 11:04:33am
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makeitstop  Jan 9, 2018 • 11:04:50am

I don’t like DiFi all that much, but dropping that transcript was a ballsy move.

Grassley’s got to be reaching for the oxygen mask right about now. Good, I say.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 11:05:14am

re: #441 jaunte

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Grassley I get but what happened to Graham? Is there dirt on him somewhere or is he just being a loyal GOPer above all else at this point? But yes this is damning.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2018 • 11:05:30am

hmmm

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 11:05:47am

re: #443 makeitstop

I don’t like DiFi all that much, but dropping that transcript was a ballsy move.

Grassley’s got to be reaching for the oxygen mask right about now. Good, I say.

She’s far from my favorite too but yes.

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jaunte  Jan 9, 2018 • 11:05:52am

re: #444 HappyWarrior

It seems there is dirt.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2018 • 11:06:39am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 9, 2018 • 11:06:54am

re: #417 sagehen

Cuba’s the only country that ever did that, the Mariel boatlift.

They were able to do it because we had announced, very publicly, that any Cuban who could somehow find their way here would be welcome, no questions asked.

And Castro was laughing up his sleeve as we willingly accepted the worst his country had to offer.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 11:07:35am

re: #447 jaunte

It seems there is dirt.

Wonder what kind.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2018 • 11:07:50am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 11:08:25am

re: #449 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And Castro was laughing up his sleeve as we willingly accepted the worst his country had to offer.

Antonio Montana? Great guy. I knew him in the early 80’s. A lot of people don’t know but I told Tony that Manny was sleeping with his sister.

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JordanRules  Jan 9, 2018 • 11:08:29am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 11:09:28am

re: #448 Backwoods_Sleuth

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This guy Simpson is going to be attacked relentlessly by the admin and in the RW media. I expect Fathead Jones will be calling him a Deep State spy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2018 • 11:10:46am

LOL!

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jaunte  Jan 9, 2018 • 11:10:49am

Wonkette:

2:05: Oh hi! We are 25 pages into the thing, and the big thing we can tell you so far is that investigators for the GOP go DIRECTLY into trying to GOTCHA! Simpson into admitting that Fusion GPS tells their clients (HILLARY!) they can use their research to trick the FBI into starting investigations (TRUMP RUSSIA HOAX!). Simpson is like “not so much, but thank you for your nice question!”
wonkette.com

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jaunte  Jan 9, 2018 • 11:11:57am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2018 • 11:12:41am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 11:14:58am

re: #455 Backwoods_Sleuth

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LOL!

Me fail geography? That’s unpossible. Man that’s so much funny as shit with that. How would I feel to live with immigrants? I’d rather live (and I do) among immigrants than a bunch of racist assholes who still fight 1865.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 9, 2018 • 11:15:09am

re: #455 Backwoods_Sleuth

Right now I really wish I’d saved the mail I got from an Arpaio supporter who insisted that us northeasterners didn’t get what it was like to live in a border state: “How would you feel if New York was full of immigrants?”

One of the sub-themes of No Country for Old men involves how West Texas and all the border areas from there to southern California went from being sleepy backwater regions to the front line in the War on Drugs and the main routes for human trafficking as well.

I understand that residents there are fed up, but any and all attempts at comprehensive immigration reform (and anything else is just kicking the problem down the line) have been stymied by a tangle of conflicting interests.

Heck, that was one thing that GW Bush promoted that I could support, but his own party did not back him up on immigration reform initiatives.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 9, 2018 • 11:16:00am

Well crap. 5 people died in Montecito this morning. Waist high mudflows knocked houses right off the foundations.
latimes.com

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JordanRules  Jan 9, 2018 • 11:16:23am

Wow. Who is the whistle blower?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2018 • 11:17:19am

re: #462 JordanRules

Wow. Who is the whistle blower?

Carter Page, I think.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2018 • 11:18:14am

re: #461 Unshaken Defiance

Well crap. 5 people died in Montecito this morning. Waist high mudflows knocked houses right off the foundations.
latimes.com

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JordanRules  Jan 9, 2018 • 11:19:44am
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Sir John Barron  Jan 9, 2018 • 11:19:59am

So, DiFi dropped a Fusion transcript something something?

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makeitstop  Jan 9, 2018 • 11:21:18am

re: #466 Sir John Barron

So, DiFi dropped a Fusion transcript something something?

Yeah. Boom, as they say.

Grassley and Graham have got a lot of explaining to do.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 9, 2018 • 11:22:11am

So Steele released the dossier to FBI because he thought they weren’t taking Russian actions seriously enough. They thanked him because it confirmed some of what they had already found. Meanwhile they had been aggressively and publicly investigating HRC. I don’t want to unload on the FBI at this point, but they have some explaining to do. The narrative is exactly the opposite of what GOP is trying to portray. I hope Mueller helps FBI get out from under this cloud.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 9, 2018 • 11:22:50am

re: #466 Sir John Barron

So, DiFi dropped a Fusion transcript something something?

I wouldn’t worry about something from a company with a dumb name like Fusion GPS ////

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 9, 2018 • 11:24:05am

re: #468 Barefoot Grin

So Steele released the dossier to FBI because he thought they weren’t taking Russian actions seriously enough. They thanked him because it confirmed some of what they had already found. Meanwhile they had been aggressively and publicly investigating HRC. I don’t want to unload on the FBI at this point, but they have some explaining to do. The narrative is exactly the opposite of what GOP is trying to portray. I hope Mueller helps FBI get out from under this cloud.

anything to make the FBI look all deep-statey

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makeitstop  Jan 9, 2018 • 11:24:29am

Now that this transcript is out in the wild, ya gotta wonder what type of bonehead play the GOP is going to try next.

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JordanRules  Jan 9, 2018 • 11:24:53am

re: #468 Barefoot Grin

They are looking really damn bad out here.
NYT right there too.

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stpaulbear  Jan 9, 2018 • 11:25:27am

re: #454 HappyWarrior

This guy Simpson is going to be attacked relentlessly by the admin and in the RW media. I expect Fathead Jones will be calling him a Deep State spy.

Michael Wolff is going to be glad that someone else is in that spotlight for a while. He seemed pretty worn out when he was on The Last Word yesterday.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2018 • 11:26:23am
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darthstar  Jan 9, 2018 • 11:27:20am

Finally getting to hire someone for my team. Had my first phone screen this morning - guy sounds great - one more this afternoon. Until then, a little Executive Time is in order. :)

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JordanRules  Jan 9, 2018 • 11:28:01am
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Belafon  Jan 9, 2018 • 11:28:11am

re: #476 darthstar

You watch Fox and tweet?!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2018 • 11:28:50am
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JordanRules  Jan 9, 2018 • 11:29:23am
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darthstar  Jan 9, 2018 • 11:30:03am

re: #478 Belafon

You watch Fox and tweet?!

Oh…is that what it is? Never mind. I thought it was something fun.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2018 • 11:30:07am

re: #479 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 11:30:59am

The plot it thickens.

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freetoken  Jan 9, 2018 • 11:31:34am

re: #444 HappyWarrior

Grassley I get but what happened to Graham? Is there dirt on him somewhere or is he just being a loyal GOPer above all else at this point? But yes this is damning.

Perhaps there is money involved.

Or Graham noticed that he’s a Senator from a state that is filled with Trumpers who will be Trumpers to the end, no matter how bad Trump is proven to be.

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JordanRules  Jan 9, 2018 • 11:33:35am

re: #482 Backwoods_Sleuth

This is chilling. You go to America’s police to report a crime and then it looks like they are involved too. Nuts.
Where do you go next?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 11:34:43am

re: #484 freetoken

Perhaps there is money involved.

Or Graham noticed that he’s a Senator from a state that is filled with Trumpers who will be Trumpers to the end, no matter how bad Trump is proven to be.

Yeah money or political survival.

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Belafon  Jan 9, 2018 • 11:35:11am

re: #482 Backwoods_Sleuth

Is it time to wonder what the Russians have on the NYT?

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darthstar  Jan 9, 2018 • 11:35:55am

Cool. We got our peak wind gust certified from last year. Yeah, it gets breezy up there, but damn it’s a lot of fun.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 11:38:05am

re: #487 Belafon

Is it time to wonder what the Russians have on the NYT?

I honestly don’t know. Something something really stinks big here.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2018 • 11:38:39am

re: #484 freetoken

re: #486 HappyWarrior

There’s $800,000 that Lindsey got from a Russian oligarch.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2018 • 11:41:15am

more mudslides:

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sagehen  Jan 9, 2018 • 1:07:22pm

re: #462 JordanRules

Wow. Who is the whistle blower?

I’d suggest… start by looking at who either quit or was fired in the first half of 2016.


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