The Bob Cesca Show: Stable Genius

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show:

Stable Genius: Not Safe For Work; Buzz Burbank from the Buzz Burbank News & Comment podcast is here; The Fusion GPS released to the public; Trump and Kazakhstan; Trump and the Mob; Trump and Sweat Shops; The Dossier; Trump claims he’s a very stable genius; Trump’s stupid tweets; Fire and Fury publisher hits back at Trump; Stephen Miller’s meltdown on CNN; Arpaio for Senate; and much more.

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131 comments

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Belafon  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:05:31pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:15:02pm

Who is “Hoarse Whisperer” anyway?

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Charles Johnson  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:20:01pm
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Belafon  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:22:25pm

re: #2 Anymouse 🌹

Who is “Hoarse Whisperer” anyway?

Someone on twitter. As I stated in the last thread, they’re pretty good at analysis without getting into the wild speculation that some of the other people have been.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:22:36pm

I have to go in the church tomorrow to get a water sample for the state.

If I burst into flames, my wife will log in here to let you know how the bar-b-que went.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:23:31pm

re: #5 Anymouse 🌹

I have to go in the church tomorrow to get a water sample for the state.

If I burst into flames, my wife will log in here to let you know how the bar-b-que went.

Stay away from the holy water, you’ll be OK.

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Belafon  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:26:04pm

Another analysis of the document included this:

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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:28:19pm

This is a good chart for skiers.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:29:03pm

re: #6 wheat-dogg

Stay away from the holy water, you’ll be OK.

Well, it’s a Lutheran church (I don’t know if they do holy water).

juanitajean.com

LOL someone took out a billboard in Texas supposedly dragging Democrats and did a marvelous job on misspelt words and decorative punctuation.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:31:58pm

re: #9 Anymouse 🌹

That font is horrible too.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:40:48pm

Nebraska Governor Pete Ricketts (R-Hedge funds) puts forth a budget plan to end state health funding to any health clinic that provides abortion services.
starherald.com
(Goes to the Scottsbluff, NE Star-Herald), more at the link:

Gov. Pete Ricketts announced Monday that he will try once more to take family planning funds away from any health clinic that offers abortions, such as Planned Parenthood.

“Nebraska is a pro-life state, and the state’s budget should reflect those values,” he said. “This year, I am recommending that the Legislature revise the state’s distribution of federal Title X health care funds to ensure that no funds are used to subsidize abortion.”

Ricketts said he plans to include that recommendation in his budget proposal, which is to be unveiled Wednesday along with his State of the State speech.

The governor attempted a similar change last year.

His budget proposal included language that would have steered Nebraska’s $1.9 million annual share of federal Title X funds to entities that offer a broad range of health services.

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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:41:29pm
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Amory Blaine  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:44:57pm
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ObserverArt  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:47:42pm

Anyone catch Rachel reporting Lindsey Graham said he is glad the Fusion testimony transcripts have been released.

Lindsey is really strange these days.

Edit to add. Trump’s lawyer Michael Cohen has added Fusion GPS to his Buzzfeed lawsuit.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:49:26pm

re: #12 teleskiguy

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Video

“Slapped a cuckle”

Gotta save that.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:49:51pm

re: #14 ObserverArt

Anyone catch Rachel reporting Lindsey Graham said he is glad the Fusion testimony transcripts have been released.

Lindsey is really strange these days.

What in the.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:52:47pm

re: #13 Amory Blaine

That’s an interesting rendition of the song.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:53:36pm

re: #14 ObserverArt

Anyone catch Rachel reporting Lindsey Graham said he is glad the Fusion testimony transcripts have been released.

Lindsey is really strange these days.

Edit to add. Trump’s lawyer Michael Cohen has added Fusion GPS to his Buzzfeed lawsuit.

Lindsey checks windsock to see which way wind is blowing… .

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bill d. (b.d.)  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:54:04pm

Interesting:

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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:54:23pm
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bill d. (b.d.)  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:54:48pm

re: #18 Anymouse 🌹

Lindsey checks windsock to see which way wind is blowing… .

Lindsey is acting like someone being blackmailed imo.

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ObserverArt  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:56:12pm

re: #19 bill d. (b.d.)

Interesting:

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Okay. How many GOP senators will now be just fine with this Fusion release???

Are they warming up the bus for someone?

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bill d. (b.d.)  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:56:13pm

re: #19 bill d. (b.d.)

Interesting:

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“I think that’s a good idea,” Cornyn said. “I’m glad that it was done.”

“I respect Chairman Grassley, and I don’t really understand how this happened, but I do think more transparency is important,” Cornyn said.

I guess he wants to be FBI Director or something.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:58:50pm
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Belafon  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:59:04pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 9, 2018 • 6:59:50pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:00:17pm

re: #24 Charles Johnson

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Cute considering how they blamed Obama for everything and I mean everything.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:00:51pm

re: #26 The Vicious Babushka

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Falwell is such an ass kisser.

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Belafon  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:02:43pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:03:19pm

re: #29 Belafon

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Smart.

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The Major  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:03:58pm

re: #26 The Vicious Babushka

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bill d. (b.d.)  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:04:25pm

re: #29 Belafon

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evil bastards.

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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:05:16pm
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William Lewis  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:07:45pm

re: #9 Anymouse 🌹

Well, it’s a Lutheran church (I don’t know if they do holy water).

juanitajean.com

LOL someone took out a billboard in Texas supposedly dragging Democrats and did a marvelous job on misspelt words and decorative punctuation.

Heh. Some high church Lutherans do.

The big secret? It’s tap water that the priest (well, for us Anglicans) says this prayer over the water:
Almighty God, who through the water of baptism has raised us from sin into new life, and by the power of your life-giving Spirit ever cleanses and sanctifies your people: + Bless, we pray you, this water for the service of your holy Church; and grant that it may be a sign of the cleansing and refreshment of your grace; through Jesus Christ our Lord. Amen.
(at the + he performs a sign of the cross while touching the water) My priest usually adds this antiphon:
I saw water proceeding out of the temple, from the right side it flowed;
And all those to whom that water came shall be saved. Alleluia.

What to make of it? To you, it’s still tap water. To my mother it was something important (she had holy water from her trip to Lourdes after her cancer diagnosis). Me? As with most church rituals, at it’s best it is a symbol of all that is good and light in this world and a reminder of the good we should try to do for all people. Good enough for me to dip my fingers in the font and make a sign of the cross even though no amount of water is going to get me into heaven.

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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:09:54pm
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ObserverArt  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:12:59pm

re: #25 Belafon

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I see the thread is wrapped up. Pretty good summation at the end.

The rest of this week looks to be real interesting. Lot’s of posturing the past few months just got blown out of the water with the Fusion transcript and the Wolff book. It has been a ton of factual weight placed on the Republicans.

How will they handle it now?

It almost seems like maybe a reason so many retirements are popping up is a lot of people knew/know what was/is going on, and it is time to bail before the real fan gets warmed up for their bullshit cover.

Spring cleaning in the G.O.P.

Gonna need a bigger bucket.

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makeitstop  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:15:24pm

re: #2 Anymouse 🌹

Who is “Hoarse Whisperer” anyway?

Apparently just an extremely astute citizen.

Doesn’t claim to have ‘sources’ or make a big deal of anything, he just delivers amazing insights on anything he chooses to post about.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:16:09pm

re: #28 HappyWarrior

Falwell is such an ass kisser.

He fucking inherited his space from his fucked up dad.

Almighty!!!

So gross.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:17:24pm

re: #33 teleskiguy

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Conservatives can think whatever the hell they want; in fact, they frequently do. Doesn’t mean they’re right.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:17:36pm
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Archangelus  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:20:06pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:20:26pm

re: #34 William Lewis

Heh. Some high church Lutherans do.

The big secret? It’s tap water that the priest (well, for us Anglicans) says this prayer over the water: (prayer cut for brevity)

What to make of it? To you, it’s still tap water. To my mother it was something important (she had holy water from her trip to Lourdes after her cancer diagnosis). Me? As with most church rituals, at it’s best it is a symbol of all that is good and light in this world and a reminder of the good we should try to do for all people. Good enough for me to dip my fingers in the font and make a sign of the cross even though no amount of water is going to get me into heaven.

To my state, it has arsenic in it if the RO units aren’t working properly.

I don’t think this is a “high Lutheran” church (when we moved here, it was an independent non-denominational church, they joined one of the Lutheran synods a couple years ago).

I would hope that they draw things like baptismal water out of the RO unit, but I don’t know. The RO unit runs rather slowly, while the water pressure from the faucets is pretty high here. A baptismal font would be much quicker to fill by avoiding that pesky RO unit.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:23:38pm

In light of todays flooding and continuing questions about how the Creek fire started I have this little gem I snapped on Little Tujunga canyon road a couple days after the fire. It is not the source but is not far at all. This kind of thing goes unchecked all too often. Notice the charring right where it rubs on the wire.

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The Major  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:25:04pm
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BeachDem  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:26:16pm

An interesting search

And still next to nothing in Maggie’s timeline about the doc release. Hmmm.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:26:56pm

re: #43 Unshaken Defiance

In light of todays flooding and continuing questions about how the Creek fire started I have this little gem I snapped on Little Tujunga canyon road a couple days after the fire. It is not the source but is not far at all. This kind of thing goes unchecked all too often.

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Oh, come on. What could POSSIBLY go wrong?!

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:27:48pm

re: #43 Unshaken Defiance

In light of todays flooding and continuing questions about how the Creek fire started I have this little gem I snapped on Little Tujunga canyon road a couple days after the fire. It is not the source but is not far at all. This kind of thing goes unchecked all too often. Notice the charring right where it rubs on the wire.

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Are you able to report that to the electric company? Around here, the public power district encourages people to inform them when trees or other objects are interfering with lines.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:29:18pm

re: #45 BeachDem

An interesting search

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And still next to nothing in Maggie’s timeline about the doc release. Hmmm.

Considering the link in the transcript released by Senator Feinstein, one wonders if there is some sort of leverage being applied to Ms. Haberman.

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ObserverArt  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:30:00pm

re: #42 Anymouse 🌹

To my state, it has arsenic in it if the RO units aren’t working properly.

I don’t think this is a “high Lutheran” church (when we moved here, it was an independent non-denominational church, they joined one of the Lutheran synods a couple years ago).

I would hope that they draw things like baptismal water out of the RO unit, but I don’t know. The RO unit runs rather slowly, while the water pressure from the faucets is pretty high here. A baptismal font would be much quicker to fill by avoiding that pesky RO unit.

The big old Italianate Catholic Church of my youth had Italian marble fonts that held probably a quart of water in them at every door to the church. Pedestal and all. Polished marble. If I remember correctly, that was 6 entrances and I think one prior to the entrance going to the balcony for the choir members and the organists and assistant (to run the air pump for the bellows, etc.)

I used to wonder what that Church cost in the day. Didn’t pay attention when younger other than to look at all the lushness of the materials.

Sure did learn why the Monsignor that was the head of our parrish was all the time lighting the congregations up about the debt though. Let’s have two collections!

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wheat-dogg  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:31:10pm

re: #45 BeachDem

Someone on Twitter noted that Haberman has six-degrees-of-separation connections to the Trumps and Kushners. IOW, she’s not entirely impartial, and that can be seen in how she spins the news away from Trump’s liabilities.

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mmmirele  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:32:45pm

So I have never shared stuff from my evil too big to fail employer, never. I’ve never actually said the words “Wells Fargo” on my Facebook until today. (I took these precautions because I do things I don’t want the bank to get blamed for.) But I knew my idiot congressman Andy Biggs would mouth off about DACA eventually, and he did, yesterday. When the Tim Sloan video got posted, I figured I’d let Andy know that the CEO of the fourth largest employer of the state is asking for a permanent legislative solution for the Dreamers.

Yeah, that’s my congressman. *sigh*

If anyone is interested in looking at Wells Fargo propaganda, it can be found here.

stories.wf.com

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Mike Lamb  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:33:21pm

Still amazing to me that Grassley and Graham have been lying so brazenly about Steele, the dossier, and GPS Fusion. The criminal referral looks so incredibly foolish.

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ObserverArt  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:35:44pm

re: #52 Mike Lamb

Still amazing to me that Grassley and Graham have been lying so brazenly about Steele, the dossier, and GPS Fusion. The criminal referral looks so incredibly foolish.

I think they will say they were just protecting the investigation and keeping everyone honest until they were finished. Now that it is out no big deal…but many many questions remain. And they will need those answered.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:36:27pm

re: #21 bill d. (b.d.)

Lindsey is acting like someone being blackmailed imo.

Aren’t all Republicans acting like they’re being blackmailed? Probably because when Russia hacked the RNC, they blackmailed Republicans with juicy, explosive info.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:39:13pm

re: #52 Mike Lamb

Still amazing to me that Grassley and Graham have been lying so brazenly about Steele, the dossier, and GPS Fusion. The criminal referral looks so incredibly foolish.

They assumed the testimony wouldn’t come out, except for cherry-picked parts they might choose to release.

Diane Feinstein took a tire iron to their knees today.

That also explains why Lindsay Graham and John Cornyn are both attacking Chuck Grassley. Conservatism is about obtaining and maintaining power, nothing more. It has always been that way, and right now Diane Feinstein has wounded Chuck Grassley.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:39:30pm

re: #44 The Major

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So what? Trump’s ratings are in the dumps. Is Yglesias paying attention to the polls?

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:42:50pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:42:59pm

re: #26 The Vicious Babushka

Falwell is as disgusting as his father. The apple didn’t fall (far) from the tree.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:45:11pm

re: #58 Patricia Kayden

Falwell is as disgusting as his father. The apple didn’t fall (far) from the tree.

The apple rotted on it.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:45:56pm

gfffffre: #56 Patricia Kayden

So what? Trump’s ratings are in the dumps. Is Yglesias paying attention to the polls?

Yes — but the Trumpsters still support him 100%. And given gerrymandering and voter suppression, they represent a disproportionate share of the electorate AND a large majority of Republican voters. Yglesias is pointing out how conservatives feel, not most Americans

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makeitstop  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:46:29pm

re: #54 Patricia Kayden

Aren’t all Republicans acting like they’re being blackmailed? Probably because when Russia hacked the RNC, they blackmailed Republicans with juicy, explosive info.

…and gave it to Trump.

I believe that the Russians aren’t the ones blackmailing Congress. Trump is.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:46:58pm
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The Major  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:47:12pm

re: #55 Anymouse 🌹

That also explains why Lindsay Graham and John Cornyn are both attacking Chuck Grassley. Conservatism is about obtaining and maintaining power, nothing more. It has always been that way, and right now Diane Feinstein has wounded Chuck Grassley.

And Grassley may be mortally wounded politically while Cornyn and Graham are doing a dicey political pirouette to save their hineys when in actuality all three should be sent off to the pasture….

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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:47:21pm

It’s springtime in Colorado’s Front Range corridor!

Wait, it’s January.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:47:48pm

re: #61 makeitstop

…and gave it to Trump.

I believe that the Russians aren’t the ones blackmailing Congress. Trump is.

Pretty much the playbook Putin used when he attained power. Except Putin is smarter than the Trump Brain Trust.

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retired cynic  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:49:04pm

re: #64 teleskiguy

It’s springtime in Colorado’s Front Range corridor!

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Wait, it’s January.

That’s what I heard today from a friend in Denver. Unreal. We’re in the ice camp today. Supposed to be near 60 tomorrow, then down to zero on Saturday. My sinuses want out of here!

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scottslemmons  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:49:21pm

re: #64 teleskiguy

It’s springtime in Colorado’s Front Range corridor!

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Wait, it’s January.

We hit 70 in the far northern Texas Panhandle. Not impossible for this neck of the boondocks, but we’d usually have that happen maybe a bit later in the month.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:49:57pm
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The Major  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:50:30pm

re: #64 teleskiguyre: #64 teleskiguy

I tell ya, it’s all of them fire-‘n’-brimstone preaching going on at the Air Force Academy and surrounding enclaves, just summoning up the those hot demonic spirits onto the material plane and just making things hotter…..

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:50:55pm

re: #67 scottslemmons

We hit 70 in the far northern Texas Panhandle. Not impossible for this neck of the boondocks, but we’d usually have that happen maybe a bit later in the month.

We got up to 52 in this part of the Nebraska Panhandle. That turned some of our snow into ice and turn my village’s streets into quagmires.

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The Major  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:51:24pm

re: #65 Anymouse 🌹

Except Putin is smarter more ruthless than the Trump Brain Trust.

FIFY….

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ObserverArt  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:51:40pm

re: #62 Charles Johnson

Charles Johnson

@Green_Footballs
Expect a series of early morning tweets from the Narcissist in Chief tomorrow, attacking Oprah Winfrey. He’s already gearing up for it.

10:46 PM - Jan 9, 2018
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What about the Fusion transcript? Do you think he will be raging about that too? And the fake book. There’s a lot on his plate.

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Belafon  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:53:42pm

I’m starting to have a complex view about the 2016 election. I really wanted Clinton to win. But, in hindsight, I’m seeing our reality versus the one where she wins.

1. In the reality she wins, Democrats are not in charge of the House or Senate. Republicans spend all of the time investigating Clinton. Due to apathy and the general disappointment that Democrats always feel after accomplishing something historic (the election of the first woman), Democrats get hammered in 2018, losing half of the 25 Senate seats they have to defend, pushing Republican majorities over 60. They get hammered again in 2020, leading to a Republican president with large majorities in both chambers.
2. In our reality, Trump wins, finally waking people the fuck up about what’s at stake. Even through gerrymandering, Democrats take one chamber, in part due to the large number of Republicans retiring. Democrats also reclaim a number of state governorships and legislatures. Investigations of Trump lead to further Republican losses in 2020, including the presidency.

There’s a growing part of me that thinks we needed this shitshow, and we got lucky that the asshole on top couldn’t think his way out of a paper bag, though he’d tell everyone he escaped easily.

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BeachDem  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:53:44pm

These two Hoarse Whisperer tweets (24 and 44—for some reason I can’t isolate them) in the thread tell a pretty thorough story (which should be to the NYT’s shame, but probably won’t be.)

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Stanley Sea  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:54:20pm

Rain in So Cal.

I made Italian Wedding soup.

Fantastic.

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makeitstop  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:54:22pm

re: #65 Anymouse 🌹

Pretty much the playbook Putin used when he attained power. Except Putin is smarter than the Trump Brain Trust.

I wonder if at some point in the future, some republican will decide that no matter what Trump holds over their heads, the country’s survival is more important.

A transcript of a hearing we all swore we’d never see was put out in the public domain today. Anything is possible.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:56:27pm

Bill Kristol being sensible again. How did that happen?

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:56:29pm

re: #60 Hecuba’s daughter

gfffff

Yes — but the Trumpsters still support him 100%. And given gerrymandering and voter suppression, they represent a disproportionate share of the electorate AND a large majority of Republican voters. Yglesias is pointing out how conservatives feel, not most Americans

Yet despite Trump’s endorsements, Democrats took Virginia and Session’s former seat. The fact that Trump’s bigoted supporters are still with him means little when he is toxic to the majority of Americans.

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The Major  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:57:13pm

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retired cynic  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:58:52pm

re: #79 The Major

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Belafon  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:58:56pm

re: #77 Anymouse 🌹

Bill Kristol being sensible again. How did that happen?

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I don’t think she currently has the right qualifications for president, but she’s more qualified now than Trump will be after four years of experience.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 9, 2018 • 7:58:58pm

re: #62 Charles Johnson

He’s an expert at attacking Black women. Just ask Jemielle Hill. Perhaps he’ll demand that Oprah be fired.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:00:37pm

re: #72 ObserverArt

What about the Fusion transcript? Do you think he will be raging about that too? And the fake book. There’s a lot on his plate.

I’ll bet Oprah Winfrey is going to be the most important issue for him. Because she’s black, and a woman, and she’s challenging his ego.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:00:46pm

re: #76 makeitstop

I wonder if at some point in the future, some republican will decide that no matter what Trump holds over their heads, the country’s survival is more important.

A transcript of a hearing we all swore we’d never see was put out in the public domain today. Anything is possible.

Put in the public domain by a Democrat.

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Belafon  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:01:11pm

re: #83 Charles Johnson

I’ll bet Oprah Winfrey is going to be the most important issue for him. Because she’s black, and a woman, and she’s challenging his ego.

I wonder if anyone has told him about the transcript?

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Archangelus  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:01:52pm

re: #85 Belafon

I wonder if anyone has told him about the transcript?

No one wants to be the unlucky bastard to tell him the news….

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:02:34pm

re: #79 The Major

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scottslemmons  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:03:36pm

re: #73 Belafon

I’m starting to have a complex view about the 2016 election. I really wanted Clinton to win. But, in hindsight, I’m seeing our reality versus the one where she wins.

1. In the reality she wins, Democrats are not in charge of the House or Senate. Republicans spend all of the time investigating Clinton. Due to apathy and the general disappointment that Democrats always feel after accomplishing something historic (the election of the first woman), Democrats get hammered in 2018, losing half of the 25 Senate seats they have to defend, pushing Republican majorities over 60. They get hammered again in 2020, leading to a Republican president with large majorities in both chambers.
2. In our reality, Trump wins, finally waking people the fuck up about what’s at stake. Even through gerrymandering, Democrats take one chamber, in part due to the large number of Republicans retiring. Democrats also reclaim a number of state governorships and legislatures. Investigations of Trump lead to further Republican losses in 2020, including the presidency.

There’s a growing part of me that thinks we needed this shitshow, and we got lucky that the asshole on top couldn’t think his way out of a paper bag, though he’d tell everyone he escaped easily.

I would never say it’s good that we got Trump — but I’m glad we’ve gotten a wake-up call that democracy is fragile, Russia is fucking dangerous, the Nazis are more numerous than we thought, and there are no good Republican politicians or pundits left.

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ObserverArt  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:03:50pm

re: #79 The Major

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Bass Reeves  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:04:13pm

re: #73 Belafon

Your hindsight is mysteriously missing a potential nuclear war or two.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:05:14pm

re: #73 Belafon

I’m starting to have a complex view about the 2016 election. I really wanted Clinton to win. But, in hindsight, I’m seeing our reality versus the one where she wins.

1. In the reality she wins, Democrats are not in charge of the House or Senate. Republicans spend all of the time investigating Clinton. Due to apathy and the general disappointment that Democrats always feel after accomplishing something historic (the election of the first woman), Democrats get hammered in 2018, losing half of the 25 seats they have to defend, pushing Republican majorities over 60. They get hammered again in 2020, leading to a Republican president with large majorities in both chambers.
2. In our reality, Trump wins, finally waking people the fuck up about what’s at stake. Even through gerrymandering, Democrats take one chamber, in part due to the large number of Republicans retiring. Democrats also reclaim a number of state governorships and legislatures. Investigations of Trump lead to further Republican losses in 2020, including the presidency.

There’s a growing part of me that thinks we needed this shitshow, and we got lucky that the asshole on top couldn’t think his way out of a paper bag, though he’d tell everyone he escaped easily.

That is definitely my feeling — assuming we manage to survive this and the Constitution remains intact. Have hope (as Andrew Sullivan used to say)

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makeitstop  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:05:18pm

As much as we’ll have to work for the midterms and continue to resist the GOP agenda in the coming years, I’m starting to think that big chunks of the Trump cult are going to fail on their own, by way of bad luck, happenstance and mistakes, along with the occasional well-timed news drop.

Anything can happen. We still have a lot of work to do, but a lot of Trump world is going to destroy itself.

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:05:36pm

re: #35 teleskiguy

Central America earthquake news always makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up because of September 2012 in Costa Rica (when I lived there). That part of the world is always moving.

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Interesting Times  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:05:58pm

re: #73 Belafon

There’s a growing part of me that thinks we needed this shitshow, and we got lucky that the asshole on top couldn’t think his way out of a paper bag, though he’d tell everyone he escaped easily.

Congrats - you have something in common with my Berner friend! :/

Seriously though, I agree with everything else you’ve said and your final conclusion is the straw I’m grasping onto to make myself feel better (or, at the very least, less bad) about this raging dumpster fire - maybe it’s the crisis needed to break the fever that’s been slowly killing America.

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Belafon  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:06:22pm

re: #88 scottslemmons

I would never say it’s good that we got Trump — but I’m glad we’ve gotten a wake-up call that democracy is fragile, Russia is fucking dangerous, the Nazis are more numerous than we thought, and there are no good Republican politicians or pundits left.

I’m not fond of grounding my kids, either, and I know they don’t like it.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:06:44pm

re: #90 Bass Reeves

Your hindsight is mysteriously missing a potential nuclear war or two.

I would guess that if someone moved too close to the idea of a nuclear war, the paymasters of the conservative party would end that really quickly.

There is no money to be made in a smoking cinder of a planet, regardless of any so-called Armageddon the religious wingnuts might want.

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ObserverArt  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:07:02pm

re: #83 Charles Johnson

I’ll bet Oprah Winfrey is going to be the most important issue for him. Because she’s black, and a woman, and she’s challenging his ego.

Yeah, you’re right. Even if the transcript stuff starts to bring him down, his ego is too strong to be challenged by someone like Oprah. Even if there may be no run in her future.

(Hmm. Maybe that is it. Oprah is messing with him and getting him sidetracked.)

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Belafon  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:08:20pm

re: #94 Interesting Times

Congrats - you have something in common with my Berner friend! :/

Seriously though, I agree with everything else you’ve said and your final conclusion is the straw I’m grasping onto to make myself feel better (or, at the very least, less bad) about this raging dumpster fire - maybe it’s the crisis needed to break the fever that’s been slowly killing America.

Unlike your Berner friend, I don’t think he can solve it. I don’t think our next president can solve it. What’s going to solve it, and the one true test of how our democracy survives, is if voters finally do the right thing.

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Belafon  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:09:40pm

re: #90 Bass Reeves

Your hindsight is mysteriously missing a potential nuclear war or two.

I stay away from nuclear war for the same reason I don’t plan my days around getting pneumonia or an airplane falling out of the sky and landing on my house.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:10:40pm

re: #96 Anymouse 🌹

I would guess that if someone moved too close to the idea of a nuclear war, the paymasters of the conservative party would end that really quickly.

There is no money to be made in a smoking cinder of a planet, regardless of any so-called Armageddon the religious wingnuts might want.

And the real paymasters of the party (e.g. Koch bros) are not religious zealots. They are not looking for the end of civilization but in maximizing their profits. They may destroy this planet — but through environmental catastrophe and not nuclear war.

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makeitstop  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:10:47pm

re: #84 Anymouse 🌹

Put in the public domain by a Democrat.

Of course. But who here would have even speculated that such a thing would happen?

No one. And that’s my point here. Just because republicans are in control of the government at present does not mean that their agenda is a lock. The unexpected will happen, and they have zero control over that.

Something to remember when the mood around here starts to get a little dark.

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:11:06pm

re: #64 teleskiguy

My sister was in Granby today and it was warmer there than in Corpus Christi, where I live!

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JordanRules  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:11:30pm
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BeachDem  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:11:32pm

re: #90 Bass Reeves

Your hindsight is mysteriously missing a potential nuclear war or two.

Also a generation of unqualified judges, destruction of our national parks; increased pollution; probable/possible desecration of our shorelines; death to many due to no insurance, no healthcare, cutbacks in disease control and R&D at pharmaceuticals; destroying environmental and safety regulations; families torn apart by deportation; rise in domestic terrorism and hate groups—and that’s just off the top of my head. But other than that, Mrs. Lincoln…

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JordanRules  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:12:10pm

re: #100 Hecuba’s daughter

The Mercers are tho.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:12:15pm

re: #47 Anymouse 🌹

Are you able to report that to the electric company? Around here, the public power district encourages people to inform them when trees or other objects are interfering with lines.

That tree is now gone, it was cut back when Edison came through after the fire replacing poles. reporting is encouraged, repairs maybe not so much.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:12:39pm

re: #103 JordanRules

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Belafon  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:13:26pm

re: #104 BeachDem

Also a generation of unqualified judges, destruction of our national parks; increased pollution; probable/possible desecration of our shorelines; death to many due to no insurance, no healthcare, cutbacks in disease control and R&D at pharmaceuticals; destroying environmental and safety regulations; families torn apart by deportation; rise in domestic terrorism and hate groups—and that’s just off the top of my head. But other than that, Mrs. Lincoln…

If you follow through with my scenario, most of this happens anyway, in four years. And it happens for a much longer time because Republicans maintain a lock due to apathy.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:14:50pm

re: #104 BeachDem

Also a generation of unqualified judges, destruction of our national parks; increased pollution; probable/possible desecration of our shorelines; death to many due to no insurance, no healthcare, cutbacks in disease control and R&D at pharmaceuticals; destroying environmental and safety regulations; families torn apart by deportation; rise in domestic terrorism and hate groups—and that’s just off the top of my head. But other than that, Mrs. Lincoln…

Some of these policies can be rescinded if Democrats take over at least one house in 2018 and then win the Presidency (assuming Nancy doesn’t become the first female President ;-) ). The judges are around but the healthcare can be restored and taxes can be raised.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:15:12pm

re: #107 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

***SHOTS FIRED***

Even more fodder for the Rage Baby to tweet about in the morning.

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makeitstop  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:15:50pm

re: #103 JordanRules

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See what I mean? Would anyone have considered that an injunction would occur ten minutes ago?

And there it is.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:16:09pm

OT very local news:

As a valued customer of our village’s general store, the proprietor gave me a bottle opener/corkscrew emblazoned with the store’s information on it.

I put it to use opening a bottle of Kiss grapefruit soda to pour over some Blackheart rum. It seems a toast is in order for Senator Diane Feinstein.

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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:16:41pm

re: #102 Flying Squirrel Girl

Light rain fell at the ski area this evening.

*sigh*

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Amory Blaine  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:17:20pm
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ObserverArt  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:17:29pm

re: #111 makeitstop

See what I mean? Would anyone have considered that an injunction would occur ten minutes ago?

And there it is.

The world is out to get Donald J. Trump!

(Good)

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retired cynic  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:17:30pm

re: #111 makeitstop

See what I mean? Would anyone have considered that an injunction would occur ten minutes ago?

And there it is.

Eukatastrophe. A Tolkien word for an unexpected turn for the better, not the worse. (Not sure I spelled it right, ‘tho!)

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:17:34pm

re: #110 wheat-dogg

Even more fodder for the Rage Baby to tweet about in the morning.

I have a feeling the staff is already in the process of acquiring his phone to try to prevent such an occurrence. Their success remains to be seen.

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Belafon  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:18:53pm

re: #117 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I have a feeling the staff is already in the process of acquiring his phone to try to prevent such an occurrence. Their success remains to be seen.

“Explosions overnight rocked Washington, DC, destroying all cell towers within two miles of the White House.”

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:19:49pm

re: #118 Belafon

“Explosions overnight rocked Washington, DC, destroying all cell towers within two miles of the White House.”

“Squirrels, sir. Squirrels carrying blocks of C-4.”

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MsJ  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:22:21pm

re: #96 Anymouse 🌹

I would guess that if someone moved too close to the idea of a nuclear war, the paymasters of the conservative party would end that really quickly.

There is no money to be made in a smoking cinder of a planet, regardless of any so-called Armageddon the religious wingnuts might want.

You’re assuming sanity where none exists. And you discount elected officials who are looking forward to Armageddon and the rapture.

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makeitstop  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:25:22pm

re: #115 ObserverArt

The world is out to get Donald J. Trump!

(Good)

I hesitate to use the word Karma, but I will say that an organization built on sheer greed, malice and venality stands a greater likelihood of failure, because at bottom, no one is acting in good faith.

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MsJ  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:25:28pm

Did Oprah do something other than the award show? Isn’t it a little late for trumpy to react to that?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:26:02pm

re: #122 MsJ

Did Oprah do something other than the award show? Isn’t it a little late for trumpy to react to that?

A wizard Donald J. Trump is never late, nor is he early. He tweets precisely when he means to.

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makeitstop  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:28:21pm

re: #122 MsJ

Did Oprah do something other than the award show? Isn’t it a little late for trumpy to react to that?

Well, Steadman did make a statement today that she’d definitely run if the people wanted it. That might wind his watch a little.

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JordanRules  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:29:02pm

re: #124 makeitstop

That statement was made that night too.

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Skip Intro  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:31:49pm

re: #122 MsJ

Did Oprah do something other than the award show? Isn’t it a little late for trumpy to react to that?

He’ll claim he’s a much bigger star than she is and is worth a lot more too.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:32:29pm

re: #83 Charles Johnson

I’ll bet Oprah Winfrey is going to be the most important issue for him. Because she’s black, and a woman, and she’s challenging his ego.

If Oprah did run, do you think she’d be prepared for the vile hatred and racism of the Trump cult?

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wheat-dogg  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:32:48pm

re: #121 makeitstop

I hesitate to use the word Karma, but I will say that an organization built on sheer greed, malice and venality stands a greater likelihood of failure, because at bottom, no one is acting in good faith.

The Trump mode of office organization is very much like that used by the CEO of Sears, Eddie Lampert. And we know how well Sears is doing now.

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makeitstop  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:34:58pm

re: #125 JordanRules

That statement was made that night too.

Yeah, I think you’re right on that.

But while I was out running errands today I heard the report a couple of times on the radio.

Besides, the sole determining factor that will decide whether or not he tweets about it is if they mention it on Fox and Friends.

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makeitstop  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:37:43pm

re: #128 wheat-dogg

The Trump mode of office organization is very much like that used by the CEO of Sears, Eddie Lampert. And we know how well Sears is doing now.

Right. Does anyone really think anyone in that administration trusts anyone else in that administration?

It’s Lord of the Flies in that White House. Ain’t no winning getting done in that atmosphere.

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majii  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:51:39pm

re: #127 Eclectic Cyborg

“If Oprah did run, do you think she’d be prepared for the vile hatred and racism of the Trump cult?”

I definitely think so. Oprah grew up under Jim Crow and already knows that, in most cases, when you’re black and live in the good old USA, no matter how well-educated and wealthy you are, race matters and for millions of others you’re still a n****r. A couple hours ago, I read an article on Raw Story about a group of Oklahoma workers who were discussing whether they’d be off work for MLK’s birthday, and guess what? The word n****r was a prominent feature of the discussion, so yeah, I think If Oprah runs, she knows what to expect from the ignorant, racist, bigoted, misogynistic mouth-breathers. When one is used to dealing with sh*t like that, one comes to expect it. I have. My advantage is knowing that when they use the word in reference to me, I know they’re not talking about me, they’re showing the ugly, hateful rot that resides inside of themselves. These are some of the same persons who fill up church pews every Sunday and forget about following the teachings of Jesus as soon as they get into their vehicles and head toward their homes.
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