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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:24:16pm

Celebrities are infinitely wise about politics.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:26:42pm

Brought forward from the previous thread, after which I will watch the Seth Myers clip provided by our esteemed host:

re: #120 MsJ

You’re assuming sanity where none exists. And you discount elected officials who are looking forward to Armageddon and the rapture.

The extremely wealthy are sane. That’s why they’re not Republican politicians. They own Republican politicians.

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Belafon  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:27:52pm

re: #1 teleskiguy

Celebrities are infinitely wise about politics.

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He’s gotta work on his punctuation. And here’s another take from me: I’m glad Obama stayed away after Trump took over. We needed to freakin’ learn how to save ourselves.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:29:41pm
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Bass Reeves  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:33:22pm

re: #1 teleskiguy

If this is about Oprah, what’s fundamentally different about his take and yours?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:33:50pm

Since I got CL’ed on the last thread I’ll pose the question again:

If Oprah did run, do you think she’d be prepared for the vile hatred and racism of the Trump cult?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:35:50pm

re: #6 Eclectic Cyborg

Since I got CL’ed on the last thread I’ll pose the question again:

If Oprah did run, do you think she’d be prepared for the vile hatred and racism of the Trump cult?

Probably. She is a celebrity, and as a black woman celebrity, she has more than her share of detractors. I worry that, as previously discussed, she might find herself with advisers who are less than competent at the roles to which she appointed them; her shameless promotion of Dr. Oz and Dr. Phil leaves me questioning her judgment of character.

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ipsos  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:36:58pm

I know Gallup made some changes to its presidential approval tracking poll, which is why we’re not seeing their numbers as often. But I feel like I haven’t seen *any* approval numbers at all in at least a week. “Stable Genius” has to have had an effect…right?

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MsJ  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:40:41pm

re: #2 Anymouse 🌹

Brought forward from the previous thread, after which I will watch the Seth Myers clip provided by our esteemed host:

The extremely wealthy are sane. That’s why they’re not Republican politicians. They own Republican politicians.

And Congress doesn’t have the launch codes. The POTUS does. And once he keys it all in…poof.

Sane or not, Republicans have the same control over a nuclear launch as they do over trump. None.

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MsJ  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:42:43pm

re: #6 Eclectic Cyborg

Since I got CL’ed on the last thread I’ll pose the question again:

If Oprah did run, do you think she’d be prepared for the vile hatred and racism of the Trump cult?

She’s not new to being black. And she wasn’t insulated from racism for being rich as she wasn’t rich her whole life. She saw what happened to both Obama AND Clinton.

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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:46:04pm

Fuck. Are we talking about Oprah again?!? God damn it.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:46:52pm

re: #6 Eclectic Cyborg

Since I got CL’ed on the last thread I’ll pose the question again:

If Oprah did run, do you think she’d be prepared for the vile hatred and racism of the Trump cult?

Hey Mr. Cyborg: If you choose to go back to Canada over this nonsense our government has devolved into, can you swing by my house, put my wife and me in your trunk, and take us along?

I have a 2018 Parks Canada carload pass as an inducement I can bribe you with… .

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JordanRules  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:46:54pm
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makeitstop  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:47:46pm

re: #7 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Probably. She is a celebrity, and as a black woman celebrity, she has more than her share of detractors. I worry that, as previously discussed, she might find herself with advisers who are less than competent at the roles to which she appointed them; her shameless promotion of Dr. Oz and Dr. Phil leaves me questioning her judgment of character.

This was discussed on the overnight last night and was picked up this morning. I didn’t really weigh in because I was working, but I’ll point out that she brought Drs. Phil and Oz around because she was booking a TV show, and TV shows need to be entertaining.

There are miles of difference between booking a TV show and putting together a cabinet, and I think that Oprah would be smart enough to know the difference.

That of course would depend upon her actually running, which I don’t believe for a second she’s planning to do.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:47:56pm

re: #12 Anymouse 🌹

Hey Mr. Cyborg: If you choose to go back to Canada over this nonsense our government has devolved into, can you swing by my house, put my wife and me in your trunk, and take us along?

I have a 2018 Parks Canada carload pass as an inducement I can bribe you with… .

Come visit the wild north country. We’re close enough to Canada, and they actually like us, so they might actually take us all as political refugees if the whole thing goes to hell.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:48:25pm

re: #11 teleskiguy

Fuck. Are we talking about Oprah again?!? God damn it.

RESISTANCE IS FUTILE. YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED. COME TO THE DARK SIDE.

/pun intended
//half

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KingKenrod  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:48:53pm

re: #8 ipsos

I know Gallup made some changes to its presidential approval tracking poll, which is why we’re not seeing their numbers as often. But I feel like I haven’t seen *any* approval numbers at all in at least a week. “Stable Genius” has to have had an effect…right?

Since Gallup went weekly, I’ve just been following the polls at 538. Only Rasmussen has come out lately. I’ve noticed that Trump’s numbers don’t move from around -18 regardless of the daily news. I don’t think it will change unless some really big news hits.

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makeitstop  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:49:31pm

re: #8 ipsos

I know Gallup made some changes to its presidential approval tracking poll, which is why we’re not seeing their numbers as often. But I feel like I haven’t seen *any* approval numbers at all in at least a week. “Stable Genius” has to have had an effect…right?

I believe the change they made is that they were only going to release polling results once a week.

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Amory Blaine  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:49:34pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:50:07pm

re: #15 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Come visit the wild north country. We’re close enough to Canada, and they actually like us, so they might actually take us all as political refugees if the whole thing goes to hell.

My wife asked “where are we going and why are we in this handbasket?”

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:50:40pm

re: #20 Anymouse 🌹

My wife asked “where are we going and why are we in this handbasket?”

On the plus side, if you move to Minnesota, at least you’ll be used to the cold once Hell freezes over.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:51:09pm

re: #6 Eclectic Cyborg

Since I got CL’ed on the last thread I’ll pose the question again:

If Oprah did run, do you think she’d be prepared for the vile hatred and racism of the Trump cult?

It wouldn’t just be coming from the Republican 24/7 Bullshit Machine. All of the Corporate Controlled Conservative Press would also pull out their knives. Just imagine the snarky shit Maureen Dowd would put in the New York Times. Add in Hate Radio, Pulpit Pimp Preachers and I’m sure the Catholic Bishops would also join in on the Oprah bashing.

They would make what they did to Hillary look like a Studio 54 Disco Party.

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retired cynic  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:51:11pm

re: #19 Amory Blaine

Always!

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JordanRules  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:51:42pm

Re: North Carolina

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:53:02pm

re: #21 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

On the plus side, if you move to Minnesota, at least you’ll be used to the cold once Hell freezes over.

I’ve gotten soft and weak living in Nebraska, after growing up in Michigan.

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Interesting Times  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:53:25pm

re: #24 JordanRules

Re: North Carolina

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Any chance SCOTUS could wreck this before the midterms?

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JordanRules  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:53:40pm

I feel your pain Shaub.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:54:48pm

re: #25 Anymouse 🌹

I’ve gotten soft and weak living in Nebraska, after growing up in Michigan.

I grew up in Indiana, which is weak sauce compared to living here. My folks were complaining bitterly about Christmas week we spent down there, where they had temperatures fall below 0 overnight and barely climb above 0 during the day. I looked at them like, we have this happen every fucking year in January, what are you pansies whining about?

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wheat-dogg  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:55:53pm

Oprah says she is not running. She should not run. She gave a good speech, but speechifying is not an indication someone can or should be president. She may be a canny, well read, generous, intelligent woman, but she’s not suitable to be POTUS. And I say that as someone who likes and respects her.

If she wanted to make waves politically, Oprah should choose one of the Democratic candidates running in 2020 (or even in 2018) and throw her support behind him or her.

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JordanRules  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:55:59pm

re: #26 Interesting Times

I would assume of course just cause of the times we’re living in.

For now, we’ve got a fighting chance to get closer to free and fair again.

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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:56:00pm

I went skiing today. It was springy, which is fucked because spring isn’t for a few months. My teleskiguy ego got boosted nicely today, as two longtime ski instructors approached me and said “you’re a really good tele skier, you’re fun to watch.” Also, a tourist who was tele skiing for the first time approached me and said “I want to do what you do, can you teach me?” I took a run with him, gave him some pointers. I skied slow and exaggerated my movements and technique. Dude made a few legitimate tele turns and at the bottom of the run he exclaimed “I get it, now!” I was very pleased that my awesome telemark skiing ability was noticed.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:58:32pm

re: #24 JordanRules

Being ignorant of NC politics and demographics, I’d probably just overlay an rectilinear grid over the state and call each zone an electoral district. /

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 9, 2018 • 8:58:59pm

re: #28 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I grew up in Indiana, which is weak sauce compared to living here. My folks were complaining bitterly about Christmas week we spent down there, where they had temperatures fall below 0 overnight and barely climb above 0 during the day. I looked at them like, we have this happen every fucking year in January, what are you pansies whining about?

Minnesota gets pretty cold. It tends to battle it out with Petosky, Michigan for coldest day.

The folk over on the East Coast were complaining a couple days ago how cold it was, but it was nothing like it was here in the corn belt.

Last year when my wife and I were in Sacramento, there was a deep freeze here I saw reported on the weather in California. I told my wife I’ll bet our pipes froze.

We arrived home on Christmas Eve to a basement with three feet of water in it from burst pipes, and trying to get someone to our house in the middle of the night to shut off our water at the meter. (I wasn’t the water operator then; now I have access to water meter and fire hydrant wrenches.)

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:00:54pm

re: #33 Anymouse 🌹

Minnesota gets pretty cold. It tends to battle it out with Petosky, Michigan for coldest day.

The folk over on the East Coast were complaining a couple days ago how cold it was, but it was nothing like it was here in the corn belt.

Last year when my wife and I were in Sacramento, there was a deep freeze here I saw reported on the weather in California. I told my wife I’ll bet our pipes froze.

We arrived home on Christmas Eve to a basement with three feet of water in it from burst pipes, and trying to get someone to our house in the middle of the night to shut off our water at the meter. (I wasn’t the water operator then; now I have access to water meter and fire hydrant wrenches.)

Oh, yuck.

Fun fact: The only month it has never snowed (measurably, according to the Weather Bureau) within the bounds of the State of Minnesota is July. Last snow is like June 6; first snow is somewhere around August 26.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:01:19pm

Ever rediscover a song and you just can’t play it loud enough?

David Bowie - Heroes

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Amory Blaine  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:02:39pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:03:11pm

re: #31 teleskiguy

Now I see where you get your nick here at LGF. That caused me to go to Wikipedia, the font of all human ken (citation needed) to look up “telemark skiing” and find out what that was.

Congrats on the boost you got from instructing someone and getting approving comments from people you respect.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:05:10pm

re: #36 Amory Blaine

I remember when Chris Cross was THE breakout star and every top 40 radio station would play his songs over and over. Then, poof! It’s like he had his 15 minutes of fame, and was sent the cutout sections of the record stores.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:05:41pm

re: #21 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

On the plus side, if you move to Minnesota, at least you’ll be used to the cold once Hell freezes over.

For 6 years 1967-73 I delivered the morning Pittsburgh Post Gazette to 60 people and the afternoon Pittsburgh Press to 45. I remember those COLD mornings bundling up to deliver the papers. I made a vow that when I was able I was going to get the hell out of Pittsburgh and figure out a way to move to Grandma’s place in South Gate California.

I left Pittsburgh for good on January 16, 1982 just as a blizzard was hitting. Landed at a very foggy Ontario (CA) airport because LAX was fogged out. Had to take a 3 hour bus ride from Ontario to LAX. Got in a taxi, arrived at Grandma’s home at 4 in the morning, hit the sack. Got up around noon, Grandma told me to go outside and pick a couple tangerines for breakfast. In January. It was 70 degrees. Heaven. I never wanted to go back!

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makeitstop  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:06:43pm

re: #35 GlutenFreeJesus

Ever rediscover a song and you just can’t play it loud enough?

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That reminds me- the new HBO Bowie documentary ’ The Last Five Years’ is incredibly good. We watched it with friends last night and I highly recommend it.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:07:00pm

re: #34 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Oh, yuck.

Fun fact: The only month it has never snowed (measurably, according to the Weather Bureau) within the bounds of the State of Minnesota is July. Last snow is like June 6; first snow is somewhere around August 26.

According to the University of Nebraska at Lincoln, the latest snowfall recorded in Nebraska is May, and the earliest is September.

This year we had snow here in the first week of October. Two years ago we had snow on May 30.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:07:14pm

re: #36 Amory Blaine

Ah, I forgot Michael MacDonald was doing backup vocals for that track. I’d recognize that voice anywhere!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:08:37pm

re: #39 Joe Bacon 🌹

A few years ago, I had a diesel Volkswagen for a daily driver. Pretty much every January, I would have to resort to plugging in the block heater because it would be too cold to turn the car over fast enough to get it to start. Annoying as hell, but once I fished up a plug-in timer, it got a lot easier.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:09:37pm

re: #38 wheat-dogg

I remember when Chris Cross was THE breakout star and every top 40 radio station would play his songs over and over. Then, poof! It’s like he had his 15 minutes of fame, and was sent the cutout sections of the record stores.

Christopher Cross—one of the prime architects of “Yacht Rock” along with Michael McDonald, Kenny Loggins, Dan Fogelberg…and the guy who did the Pina Colada song that endlessly looped on AM stations in the late 70s…

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makeitstop  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:09:43pm

re: #38 wheat-dogg

I remember when Chris Cross was THE breakout star and every top 40 radio station would play his songs over and over. Then, poof! It’s like he had his 15 minutes of fame, and was sent the cutout sections of the record stores.

He did okay for a while. Had a couple of hits, did the theme song to one of the ‘Arthur’ movies, made a pile of money.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:13:53pm

re: #43 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

A few years ago, I had a diesel Volkswagen for a daily driver. Pretty much every January, I would have to resort to plugging in the block heater because it would be too cold to turn the car over fast enough to get it to start. Annoying as hell, but once I fished up a plug-in timer, it got a lot easier.

Count your blessings. You could have had a 1970 1/2 AMC Gremlin base model with no power anything, a three speed Borg Warner manual transmission where the first gear wasn’t synchronized, a pump for windshield washer fluid and vacuum-powered windshield wipers…

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retired cynic  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:15:58pm

re: #46 Joe Bacon 🌹

Count your blessings. You could have had a 1970 1/2 AMC Gremlin base model with no power anything, a three speed Borg Warner manual transmission where the first gear wasn’t synchronized, a pump for windshield washer fluid and vacuum-powered windshield wipers…

Oh, my mother had a Gremlin back then. Disgusting car.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:16:26pm

re: #45 makeitstop

He did okay for a while. Had a couple of hits, did the theme song to one of the ‘Arthur’ movies, made a pile of money.

Wikipedia’s article about him says MTV and music videos sunk his career. I don’t entirely buy the argument. He had a distinct sound and style that was popular, until listeners moved on to something else. IOW he didn’t have a style that transcended the fickle nature of the listening public/radio airtime.

Forty years on, I still love the lyrics and melody, but that track is too overproduced for my modern tastes. His live concerts as a singer/songwriter would undoubtedly be less glitzy, and that may have affected his career.

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makeitstop  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:17:21pm

re: #45 makeitstop

He did okay for a while. Had a couple of hits, did the theme song to one of the ‘Arthur’ movies, made a pile of money.

The weirdest bit of Chris Cross trivia - he filled in for Richie Blackmore on a Deep Purple show in Texas once. I’d never have put those two entities together.

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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:18:06pm

All I want is heavy snowfall in the mountains of Colorado. Please.

I met the CEO of the ski area tonight, he said it’s the worst snow drought he’s seen in 30 years.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:18:39pm
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IngisKahn  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:19:18pm

I looked up telemark skiing on Wikipedia and I still don’t know what it is.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:20:17pm

re: #47 retired cynic

Oh, my mother had a Gremlin back then. Disgusting car.

My dad had an AMC Hornet for a while. It was basically a bigger Gremlin. He got one with a V8, so it was quick, but there the advantages ended. Otherwise a piece of junk, and he traded it in for … wait for it … a Renault Encore.

The Encore wasn’t all that bad, in fact. But when he passed, mom and I decided to ditch the car. She didn’t drive, and it was too small for my family.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:20:52pm

re: #47 retired cynic

Oh, my mother had a Gremlin back then. Disgusting car.

My mother had a Gremlin. Traded it for a Mustang.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:22:22pm

re: #52 IngisKahn

I looked up telemark skiing on Wikipedia and I still don’t know what it is.

From what I can gather, the binding is not the rigid Alpine kind, with your entire boot connected to the ski, but it’s more like free-heel Nordic bindings. Teleskiguy can confirm or correct as needed.

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freetoken  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:23:58pm

re: #51 goddamnedfrank

Yglesias’ claim only is true for the Trump marks who are deep into a religious fantasy. They were already marks for the likes of Billy Graham Jr.

There are people of whom I know who might have leaned Republican or have been fiscal conservatives, or just war hawks, who don’t think highly of Trump at all. These people may not have been fans of Obama, but they are not fans of Trump either.

Trump really designed his appeal for the the least educated of the electorate. He spent a great deal of his adult life entertaining via “reality” TV and crafted an image that was all mirrors and no substance.

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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:24:47pm

re: #37 Anymouse 🌹

Freeheel skiing is my jam! I take great pride in my telemark skiing ability.

Here’s a picture of me in the loudest damn winter clothes I’ve ever owned, circa 2011.

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retired cynic  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:25:40pm

re: #57 teleskiguy

Freeheel skiing is my jam! I take great pride in my telemark skiing ability.

Here’s a picture of me in the loudest damn winter clothes I’ve ever owned, circa 2011.

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The article mentioned a different way of turning and jumping?

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:26:36pm

re: #57 teleskiguy

Freeheel skiing is my jam! I take great pride in my telemark skiing ability.

Here’s a picture of me in the loudest damn winter clothes I’ve ever owned, circa 2011.

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Oh no, Teh Geyh Agenda (tm) taking over skiing! Next they’ll come for ice hockey, then bowling! No sport is safe! /s

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:27:54pm

I think the speculation downstairs that either the Putin or Trump was blackmailing Republicans based on information from the Russians is unwarranted. The GOP has a President who will sign anything they produce; a President ignorant of policy with no real beliefs; what could be more perfect for them to implement their entire domestic agenda. Despoiling the environment, eliminating health care, tax cuts for the rich, drilling for oil everywhere: this isn’t Trump, it’s the GOP.

It is only on foreign policy that there might be disagreement, and, in practice, Trump has not completely succeeded in his initial plans to cozy up to Putin and provide Putin all he wanted. But the behavior of the Senate FP hawks is somewhat surprising and suspicious. the rest, though, is standard Republican policy since Reagan.

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freetoken  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:29:22pm

After being very very dry for almost a year, we finally got rain.

Not so much down south, most of the southern part of the county has had only about 1” to 1.5”, but up in northern mountains of the county the rainfall is more substantial.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:33:18pm

Time for bed. More water samples in the morning yay.

This water operator job makes me get up in the morning when I am used to sleeping in the daytime. Cruel and unusual punishment.

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IngisKahn  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:34:32pm

Ya, finally got some rain here in Phoenix too.

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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:34:45pm

re: #58 retired cynic

The article mentioned a different way of turning and jumping?

Turning, definitely. Alpine skiers’ feet are locked in to the skis, whereas telemark skiers are only locked in by their toes. Very different techniques to turn.

Jumping? That’s highly subjective. I would say alpine skiing (fixed heel) is safer, as the clamps can release in catastrophic landings, saving the knees, ankles, and legs from serious injury. Most telemark bindings are non-release, though there have been some strides in making a releasable telemark clamp in recent years (NTN seems to be the wave of the future). Me? I’m still rocking a bear trap.

If you do big jumps in these bad boys and you botch a landing, horrible shit will happen to your knees, ankles, and legs. So, yeah. Jumping on tele skis is different from alpine skis.

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JordanRules  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:35:42pm

re: #60 Hecuba’s daughter

Because they can still get all that with Pence but instead they acknowledge how crazy, dangerous and delusional 45 is in private and kiss his ass in public.

Graham’s 180 is startling frankly.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:36:57pm

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JordanRules  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:37:06pm

re: #63 IngisKahn

Very happy about it!

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IngisKahn  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:37:36pm

OK, I guess what the Wikipedia article doesn’t say is why. Can you make tighter turns with telemark?

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BeachDem  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:39:25pm

re: #27 JordanRules

I feel your pain Shaub.

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Love that guy—heh

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:43:33pm

re: #60 Hecuba’s daughter

You’re right. Trump did say “I’ll sign anything that reaches my desk”. That right there is why the Republicans are ok with being traitorous pieces of garbage.

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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:46:46pm

re: #68 IngisKahn

OK, I guess what the Wikipedia article doesn’t say is why. Can you make tighter turns with telemark?

This is highly subjective. It depends on the skier, their ability, and the skis they’re using. The shorter the ski, the tighter the turn you can make, regardless of alpine or telemark clamps. This is why you’re average weekend warrior/skis once a year skier prefers shorter skis, they’re easier to control.

I’m the best skier on the mountain so I rock longer skis than your average skier. And I can turn on a dime on those motherfuckers!

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BeachDem  Jan 9, 2018 • 9:56:42pm

So, it’s now Wednesday on the east coast. Will the yam go through with his FAKE NEWS awards? And will the sycophantic media cover them?

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JordanRules  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:07:03pm
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DodgerFan1988  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:08:42pm
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JordanRules  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:10:07pm
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danarchy  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:29:35pm

re: #72 BeachDem

So, it’s now Wednesday on the east coast. Will the yam go through with his FAKE NEWS awards? And will the sycophantic media cover them?

Next week. The anticipation is killing me…yawn

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BeachDem  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:39:49pm

re: #76 danarchy

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Next week. The anticipation is killing me…yawn

Ah, thanks. Obviously I just don’t pay enough attention to his very smart and genius words.

(BTW—in “the book,” it says that he calls other people geniuses as a derogatory/sarcastic term. Wonder if he forgot when he called himself a genius.)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:41:08pm

re: #66 Joe Bacon 🌹

We must keep in mind what Bannon was truly about: a banker who made a big pile of money off of financing Seinfeld and decided that he wanted to move into political journalism and ultimately into politics.

That brought him into contact with Breitbart, which was one of the leaders in becoming a major gadfly by using new media to manipulate the old media.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:44:53pm

re: #65 JordanRules

Because they can still get all that with Pence but instead they acknowledge how crazy, dangerous and delusional 45 is in private and kiss his ass in public.

Graham’s 180 is startling frankly.

Except that Pence doesn’t have the cult following. He’s not going to be spouting the inflammatory rhetoric that excites the base and he is not the “outsider” that Trump pretends to be or the “successful” businessman going against the political establishment. The GOP would get the policies they desire from Pence but they could lose the voters.

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JordanRules  Jan 9, 2018 • 10:59:05pm

re: #79 Hecuba’s daughter

True, but they are already losing that too. His coattails aren’t looking great post VA and AL.

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BeachDem  Jan 9, 2018 • 11:09:36pm

One last thought about bannon. Now that he’s at the nothing left to lose stage, I think he will go full out to take down Jarvanka because I believe he truly hates them both and blames much of his fall from grace on them. I’m okay with that actually.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 9, 2018 • 11:12:11pm

re: #81 BeachDem

It reminds us that the “Trump coalition” was a group of entirely disparate RW groups each seeking to use DT to promote their own agenda. This was not a marriage that was bound to last long.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 9, 2018 • 11:31:27pm

re: #73 JordanRules

he’s 5 years old and said a curse word one day in response to not getting his way. i got eye level with him and told him we don’t use words like that in our house. this child looked me dead in my eyes and said “this is an apartment, not a house”

because English is a particularly mushy and unclear language when it comes to certain forms of usage, especially for everyday things: “house”, “home” and “apartment” overlap in meaning and when they are applied.

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JordanRules  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:29:37am
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wheat-dogg  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:52:15am

I have just finished the first three chapters of Fire and Fury. A lot of the bite has been taken out of reading it, because there were so many spoilers in the press before I even got around to reading the book. But the details are still pretty compelling. It may be confirmation bias on my part, but Wolff’s summation of events and his characterizations are spot on. You can look at Trump today, and at the people around him today, and see how the book basically explains them. It’s plausible, and if there are any errors or misquotes in it, they would not nullify the general conclusions and observations therein. It’s as much a work of anthropology as politics. Wolff was not unlike a research anthropologist embedded in some strange new culture, trying to make sense of the locals’ customs and mores.

Between the Wolff book and the Congressional transcript, we all have a lot of reading ahead of us.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:07:51am

re: #11 teleskiguy

Fuck. Are we talking about Oprah again?!? God damn it.

lol. Same. I hope this isn’t going to go on for the next two years. We need to focus on fighting Trump’s agenda. Oprah isn’t going to run.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:12:38am

re: #85 wheat-dogg

It’s plausible all fake news and fabrications, and if there are any errors or misquotes in it, they would not immediately and totally nullify the general conclusions and observations therein.

spun that a bit for you

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Targetpractice  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:23:50am

On the subject of Oprah, my biggest worry is we’re going to spend too much time over the next two years proposing and destroying potential candidates before they’ve even announced (or denounced) intentions to run. How’s about we discuss the merits of an Oprah candidacy in 2019, should she actually announce an intent to run?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:29:20am

re: #88 Targetpractice

On the subject of Oprah, my biggest worry is we’re going to spend too much time over the next two years proposing and destroying potential candidates before they’ve even announced (or denounced) intentions to run. How’s about we discuss the merits of an Oprah candidacy in 2019, should she actually announce an intent to run?

The trick is to get us distracted discussing TV personalities and not matters of policy all while they distract us from the damage that Trump’s people are doing to our government and our economy.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:31:54am

re: #87 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

spun that a bit for you

Trump will rewrite reality anyway. That much is clear. Wolff completely captures Trump’s conviction that the inauguration crowds were record-breaking, despite all objective evidence to the contrary.

JFC

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Targetpractice  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:32:51am

re: #89 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The trick is to get us distracted discussing TV personalities and not matters of policy all while they distract us from the damage that Trump’s people are doing to our government and our economy.

Right, the GOP and wingnuts are gonna spend the next year tearing down every potential candidate the DNC might offer, so why help them in their effort by sitting around and finding reasons not to vote for one candidate or another? I think I’d like to see Oprah announce her candidacy and give us reasons to vote for her before I spend time looking for reasons not to.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:35:47am

Trump will attend the Davos conference. Everyone else is saying oh please god no.

Behind Closed Doors At Davos: “Make Elites Great Again”
Panic grips the World Economic Forum.

The scene at Davos this year was something verging on panic. Politicians and “thought leaders” (a term used unironically at the elite gathering) grappled with the wave of populism sweeping the planet. The specter of Brexit and Trump hung over everything. European defense ministers, namely those from Germany and the Netherlands, gathered to openly discuss what it would mean to defend the continent without US support. Top Ukrainian officials pleaded not to be forgotten as Europe grapples with its own issues.

For the first time in years, the sense of crisis was pinned squarely on the West.

Everyone seemed to agree that they had “lost the narrative.”

“The demagogues have got the right idea of the problems but are misleading people about the solutions,” said Salil Shetty, the head of Amnesty International. Of the political hand-wringing he said: “These same conversations have been happening for years. We keep being told there are winners and losers. We keep being told the exact same thing. We never learn.”

buzzfeed.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:37:33am

re: #91 Targetpractice

All I have to say on the matter:

IF it came down to DT vs OW, I would go for the latter

But I would prefer to see neither candidate on the ballot in 2020

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wheat-dogg  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:41:56am

re: #93 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

All I have to say on the matter:

IF it came down to DT vs OW, I would go for the latter

But I would prefer to see neither candidate on the ballot in 2020

Same here. I know I would def not vote for a third party candidate, because it would guarantee (probably) Trump would be reelected.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:49:26am

re: #94 wheat-dogg

Same here. I know I would def not vote for a third party candidate, because it would guarantee (probably) Trump would be reelected.

bots and trolls are going to doubling down on the ratfucking next time around, although they might realize that they have to back off and be a bit more discrete about it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:28:01am

re: #92 wheat-dogg

Trump will attend the Davos conference. Everyone else is saying oh please god no.

Behind Closed Doors At Davos: “Make Elites Great Again”
Panic grips the World Economic Forum.

Much as I admire what the EU does and what it stands for, it has managed to give itself the image of an elitist body that has little direct contact to or interest in the people it is supposed to represent. There are elections, but very few people vote and even fewer are aware of the candidates or the issues.

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Lupin  Jan 10, 2018 • 3:39:47am

re: #96 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Much as I admire what the EU does and what it stands for, it has managed to give itself the image of an elitist body that has little direct contact to or interest in the people it is supposed to represent. There are elections, but very few people vote and even fewer are aware of the candidates or the issues.

You mean the European MP elections, I suppose? True enough — but it is primarily because we trust (rightly or wrongly) our national government to see to things. In national elections participation hovers around 80%.

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sagehen  Jan 10, 2018 • 3:40:39am

re: #84 JordanRules

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She was on The Daily Show recently; she’s impressive.

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Compared to other 18-year-olds, compared to other celebrities, compared to pretty much anybody anywhere.

Her whole family and backstory is impressive too. On her father’s side, she’s got Iranian cousins who are protesting in the streets and her grandmother got caught up in the travel ban. On her mother’s side, one of her cousins is an astronaut and another is Nas.

Nas - The World Is Yours

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Lupin  Jan 10, 2018 • 3:42:11am

re: #92 wheat-dogg

Trump will attend the Davos conference. Everyone else is saying oh please god no.

Behind Closed Doors At Davos: “Make Elites Great Again”
Panic grips the World Economic Forum.

buzzfeed.com

The sense I get here from my late dad’s friends in intelligence is that Trump has now been factored in as an irredeemable moron. However the rest of the US “deep state” seems to be carrying on as usual with their EU counterparts.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2018 • 3:43:47am

re: #97 Lupin

You mean the European MP elections, I suppose? True enough — but it is primarily because we trust (rightly or wrongly) our national government to see to things. In national elections participation hovers around 80%.

Yes, and the EU bureaucrats are seen as some abstract elitists who live to promote their own interests. It is hard to explain to countries who are net payers (like Germany) into the system that they nonetheless see indirect benefits through increased imports from recipient countries.

Remember all the promises about Brexit and what they could do with the money they were paying into the EU?

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JordanRules  Jan 10, 2018 • 3:49:23am

re: #98 sagehen

Yes! I expect we’ll be hearing and seeing a lot from Yara.
When Michelle Obama writes a college recommendation letter for you, that’s a special type of motivation.

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JordanRules  Jan 10, 2018 • 3:54:24am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2018 • 4:02:21am

re: #102 JordanRules

Few people know this origin story, but as a young man, Bannon was bitten by a radioactive racist hobo, hence creating the multi-collared abomination we know today.

He made a large fortune early enough in his life that he could then simply set out to pursue his personal interests, which were politics and political journalism.

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meteor  Jan 10, 2018 • 4:41:57am

The reshuffle of PM May’s Cabinet will not affect the most popular resident of 10 Downing Street.

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dangerman  Jan 10, 2018 • 4:56:11am

re: #24 JordanRules

Re: North Carolina

Finally, the court says it will appoint a special master (expert) to come up with its own redistricting plan in case GOP legislators fail to enact a new plan, or enact one that still doesn’t pass muster pic.twitter.com

a muster passer master

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Jan 10, 2018 • 5:09:46am

There was talk upstairs about living in cold places. My former factory manager grew up in northern Minnesota, where you could hop skip and jump across the Mississippi River. That sounds like a cold place to live but he said the coldest place he ever lived was during sub training on Lake Superior in January 1942. The wind never stopped, and I can hardly imagine training in a couple hundred tons of steel immersed in ice water.
He lived to tell his story because of the fickle finger of fate. In 1943 his sub rendezvoused with a tender and he was taken off of his sub and put in a different sub. (“Hey you. Get your gear and get on this boat.”) The original sub was never heard from again.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 10, 2018 • 5:17:27am

re: #57 teleskiguy

Here’s a picture of me in the loudest damn winter clothes I’ve ever owned, circa 2011.

No overly long skiing cap? ;-)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2018 • 5:17:35am

re: #106 SteveMcGriftFlynnComey… …corruptemoligate RN

Coldest I experienced was on Lake Michigan: -27°F with a wind chill going down to -67°

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 10, 2018 • 5:18:11am

re: #26 Interesting Times

Any chance SCOTUS could wreck this before the midterms?

That would be my concern too — a malevolent Federalist-powered SCOTUS will happily reinstate Jim Crow and any voter disenfranchisement policies promoted by Republicans. Let’s see how Kennedy and Roberts react.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 10, 2018 • 5:21:36am

re: #108 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Coldest I experienced was on Lake Michigan: -27°F with a wind chill going down to -67°

I recall walking in Chicago sometime during the early 80’s (maybe late 70’s?) when there was a -25°F real temperature.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2018 • 5:22:28am

re: #109 Hecuba’s daughter

That would be my concern too — a malevolent Federalist-powered SCOTUS will happily reinstate Jim Crow and any voter disenfranchisement policies promoted by Republicans. Let’s see how Kennedy and Roberts react.

the arguments are already out there in place: fighting “voter fraud”, states’ rights (even for federal elections) and the other dogwhistle arguments, like that those who receive government benefits (i.e. minorities, not corporations) should not be allowed to vote

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2018 • 5:24:52am

re: #110 Hecuba’s daughter

I recall walking in Chicago sometime during the early 80’s (maybe late 70’s?) when there was a -25°F real temperature.

That was probably 1977-78, the winter I decided to move to Arizona.

That was preceded by 4” of freezing rain, topped with 4” of snow and then 4” inches of sleet: a perfect shit sandwich that shut the town down for days. I recall car alarms going off all night up and down the street because the contacts froze, contracted and separated.

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Belafon  Jan 10, 2018 • 5:39:36am
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Barefoot Grin  Jan 10, 2018 • 5:46:27am

re: #112 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That was probably 1977-78, the winter I decided to move to Arizona.

That was preceded by 4” of freezing rain, topped with 4” of snow and then 4” inches of sleet: a perfect shit sandwich that shut the town down for days. I recall car alarms going off all night up and down the street because the contacts froze, contracted and separated.

Easter weekend ice storm of ‘78. I remember that TV and radio towers came down.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 10, 2018 • 5:55:24am

re: #110 Hecuba’s daughter

I recall walking in Chicago sometime during the early 80’s (maybe late 70’s?) when there was a -25°F real temperature.

I remember the Chicago winter 1978-79 with the heavy blizzards and Mayor Bilandic’s bungling of the street plowing. I lived in Oak Park where the snow was so deep we couldn’t get out the front door of our apartment building. Only gave me more of an incentive to get that MA degree ASAP and get the hell out of there!

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Belafon  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:01:03am

White House aides have been told to decide before the end of January whether they intend to leave the administration or stay through the November midterm elections, an official said, a deadline intended to help bring a sense of order to an anticipated staffing exodus.

President Donald Trump is finding it difficult to recruit staff to fill the vacancies, several people close to the West Wing say, as he faces the second year of his administration with daunting political odds and an ongoing Russia investigation.

In recent months, top advisers on foreign and domestic policy have announced their departures. Additional aides are expected to make their exit in the coming weeks. Chief of staff John Kelly has embarked upon an effort to fill the ranks by the end of January. But the absence of willing and qualified replacements, paired with a lengthy hiring process, make it unlikely he’ll reach that goal…

While a revolving door is common in any administration, people who work inside the White House with previous West Wing experience say the exhaustion is magnified remarkably under Trump. The unpredictability and chaos, along with a fear of costly legal fees in the wake of the Russia investigation, have added to the fatigue.

“It’s been a year, but doesn’t it feel like a decade?” a senior administration official said, speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss the sensitive nature of the personnel shifts…

h/t Balloon Juice

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jeffreyw  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:02:34am

Imgur

Good morning!

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Sir John Barron  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:07:14am
Seth takes a closer look at Donald Trump continuing to prove that he’s an increasingly erratic president who’s unfit for his job and apparently working even fewer hours and neglecting urgent issues

HE HELD A SUPER PRODUCTIVE VERY SMART—LIKE, SMART—BIPARTISAN MEETING ON CAMERA WHAT MORE DO YOU PEOPLE WANT?!?!!

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ObserverArt  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:07:18am

re: #104 meteor

The reshuffle of PM May’s Cabinet will not affect the most popular resident of 10 Downing Street.

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It’s always good to see stability in governments. Good on you Sir Larry.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:08:46am

re: #115 Joe Bacon 🌹

I remember the Chicago winter 1978-79 with the heavy blizzards and Mayor Bilandic’s bungling of the street plowing. I lived in Oak Park where the snow was so deep we couldn’t get out the front door of our apartment building. Only gave me more of an incentive to get that MA degree ASAP and get the hell out of there!

Saw your Pittsburgh snow story above. I found two very good sources for Pittsburgh history in the last couple weeks:

heinzhistorycenter.org
historicaldilettante.blogspot.com

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Bubblehead II  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:09:19am
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Sir John Barron  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:10:35am

re: #76 danarchy

The Fake News Awards, those going to the most corrupt & biased of the Mainstream Media, will be presented to the losers on Wednesday, January 17th, rather than this coming Monday. The interest in, and importance of, these awards is far greater than anyone could have anticipated!

— Donald J. Trump

Truth be told, there can’t be anything in that Wolff book that is any more appalling, despicable, deplorable, than a typical Trump tweet, like this one.

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makeitstop  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:10:48am

‘Normay?’ Dude, the M and W keys aren’t even anywhere close to each other.

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Bubblehead II  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:12:34am

It’s tweeting again.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:14:07am

re: #124 Bubblehead II

It’s tweeting again.

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He’s determined to destroy the public’s faith in every American institution—feature/not bug.

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ObserverArt  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:16:56am

re: #110 Hecuba’s daughter

I recall walking in Chicago sometime during the early 80’s (maybe late 70’s?) when there was a -25°F real temperature.

I remember a -17° in Columbus back in the early 80s.

I went out to start my VW Rabbit to warm it up. First, getting in was a problem because those old VW door locks were guaranteed to freeze up. Once I got the locks thawed a bit (rubbing alcohol drizzled down the key and into the lock) I was surprised the car started right up.

So, I let it run a bit and then shut it off to run back into the house to prepare to take off for my errands.

When I pulled the key out of the ignition the car stayed running.

Must have been so cold the mechanism in the ignition switch didn’t move back into place.

I had to put the key back in and jiggle it around and then it worked to shut the car off.

I went back in to the house and waited to do my errands the next day when it was only like 0°.

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Bubblehead II  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:18:56am

re: #125 Decatur Deb

He’s determined to destroy the public’s faith in every American institution—feature/not bug.

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ObserverArt  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:21:46am

re: #124 Bubblehead II

It’s tweeting again.

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Courts.: how do they work???

Ignorant President is ignorant.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:22:03am

He doesn’t understand how circuit courts work. Shocking.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:22:20am

re: #115 Joe Bacon 🌹

I remember the Chicago winter 1978-79 with the heavy blizzards and Mayor Bilandic’s bungling of the street plowing. I lived in Oak Park where the snow was so deep we couldn’t get out the front door of our apartment building. Only gave me more of an incentive to get that MA degree ASAP and get the hell out of there!

I voted for Jane Byrne as did a majority of Chicagoans. Who would have thought the mishandling of parking and streets would determine the outcome of a mayoral election? Actually, it was not the bungling itself that doomed Bilandic but his failure to be honest with the public about what happened.

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Belafon  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:23:01am

re: #125 Decatur Deb

He’s determined to destroy the public’s faith in every American institution—feature/not bug.

So, he’s a Republican, then. Who, BTW, come running to Texas every time they need a court win.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:23:25am

I wonder how his sister who I hear is a surprisingly decent judge thinks of his attacks on the judiciary.

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The Major  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:25:18am

re: #38 wheat-dogg

Then, poof! It’s like he had his 15 minutes of fame, and was sent the cutout sections of the record stores.

He made an appearance on the Alan Parson’s album “On Air” singing “Welcome to The Mission”.

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MsJ  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:26:18am

re: #110 Hecuba’s daughter

I recall walking in Chicago sometime during the early 80’s (maybe late 70’s?) when there was a -25°F real temperature.

It was -81 wind chill in Chicago. I’ll never forget that winter.

I was working in Germany a few years ago and told the group about that winter when they were asking about Chicago weather and they were making the calculation from F to C and I just said “When you get to that point is just freaking cold. Calculations are unnecessary.” They all laughed.

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darthstar  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:26:29am

re: #123 makeitstop

‘Normay?’ Dude, the M and W keys aren’t even anywhere close to each other.

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But they have the same shapes on them.

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Bubblehead II  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:31:05am
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PhillyPretzel  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:38:25am

re: #123 makeitstop

re: #135 darthstar

Another person who never heard of “spell-check” or a dictionary.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:39:59am

re: #130 Hecuba’s daughter

I voted for Jane Byrne as did a majority of Chicagoans. Who would have thought the mishandling of parking and streets would determine the outcome of a mayoral election? Actually, it was not the bungling itself that doomed Bilandic but his failure to be honest with the public about what happened.

If I could ask this of both of you, well I guess this is for anyone:

What is your opinion of Harold Washington?

Doing a bit of research into aspects of his career, and thinking about his impact.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:41:28am

re: #137 PhillyPretzel

Another person who never heard of “spell-check” or a dictionary.

The White House has never needed spell check. Every presidential statement (normally) gets layers of expert staffing for form and content. These people are just as sloppy as they are arrogant.

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makeitstop  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:44:13am

re: #135 darthstar

But they have the same shapes on them.

Ah, they were looking at the keyboard upside down. That ‘splains everything.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:45:43am

re: #140 makeitstop

Ah, they were looking at the keyboard upside down. That ‘splains everything.

like the joke about the guy at the M&Ms factory who kept throwing out the ones with W on them…

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:45:48am

re: #139 Decatur Deb

I know. When I am online I will go over to thefreedictionary.com and look up the word I need. If I am not online there is American Heritage, Merriam-Webster and Oxford.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:48:31am

re: #141 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Or the toy tester who gave Elmo two test tickles. One has to be anatomically correct.

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makeitstop  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:52:11am

re: #137 PhillyPretzel

Another person who never heard of “spell-check” or a dictionary.

Or Norway.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:52:19am

re: #142 PhillyPretzel

I know. When I am online I will go over to thefreedictionary.com and look up the word I need. If I am not online there is American Heritage, Merriam-Webster and Oxford.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:52:42am

re: #144 makeitstop

Or Norway.

Goodbye, Normay Jean!

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makeitstop  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:53:35am

re: #146 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Goodbye, Normay Jean!

This is not Normay.

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ThomasLite  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:54:38am

re: #123 makeitstop

‘Normay?’ Dude, the M and W keys aren’t even anywhere close to each other.

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Next to each other on DVORAK layout. …Would he? Nah, I doubt it.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:54:50am

re: #147 makeitstop

This is not Normay.

“Normay” is a well-known Scandinavian pyramid scheme for selling fish-stain remover.

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makeitstop  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:56:20am

So, why did Says Who Cohen file that defamation suit yesterday?

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darthstar  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:57:39am

re: #150 makeitstop

So, why did Says Who Cohen file that defamation suit yesterday?

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Bet he’s repping himself. This is a show-suit.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:57:45am

re: #148 ThomasLite

White House press office has no idea what a DVORAK keyboard is. And no idea what a QWERTY keyboard is. Totally clueless.

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makeitstop  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:59:10am

re: #151 darthstar

Bet he’s repping himself. This is a show-suit.

I’m betting he’ll drop it as soon as people forget that he filed it.

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darthstar  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:59:43am
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Belafon  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:00:02am

re: #150 makeitstop

So, why did Says Who Cohen file that defamation suit yesterday?

After the transcript yesterday, this ought to be a hoot.

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ThomasLite  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:02:27am

re: #152 PhillyPretzel

White House press office has no idea what a DVORAK keyboard is. And no idea what a QWERTY keyboard is. Totally clueless.

Oh hey will you look at that, it’s actually from the press office.
That danged twitter bot that does 45’s tweets up as press office releases has me conditioned to recognise them as “presidential” tweets by now. My bad.

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Belafon  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:03:17am

re: #155 Belafon

After the transcript yesterday, this ought to be a hoot.

Plus, he’d have to prove Buzzfeed knew it was fake.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:07:18am

re: #138 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

If I could ask this of both of you, well I guess this is for anyone:

What is your opinion of Harold Washington?

Doing a bit of research into aspects of his career, and thinking about his impact.

Thanks to Council Wars, he really did not have sufficient time during his first term to accomplish very much; then his death near the beginning of the second term prevented his establishing a real legacy.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:09:44am

re: #127 Bubblehead II

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Schrodinger’s court?

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ObserverArt  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:10:32am

re: #155 Belafon

After the transcript yesterday, this ought to be a hoot.

Late last night at just about the end of the Rachel Maddow Show, Rachel said Cohen had added Fusion GPS to the suit.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:10:39am

re: #154 darthstar

Exclusive: Trump sold $35M worth of real estate in 2017, most of it to secretive buyers

and this bothers nobody in the GOP

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:12:11am

re: #161 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and this bothers nobody in the GOP

They are mostly rich assholes like he is. Hell, they probably admire the brazenness.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:13:02am

re: #161 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Those on a higher level who have signed a non- disclosure and are trying to kiss up to Trump.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:13:25am

re: #162 Eclectic Cyborg

They are mostly rich assholes like he is. Hell, they probably admire the brazenness.

Our government is one enormous fucking RICO suit…

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A Mom Anon  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:14:53am

re: #163 PhillyPretzel

Well that and they most likely have underhanded and shitty financial dealings of their own they aren’t so blatant about. TFP.

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makeitstop  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:16:32am

re: #157 Belafon

Plus, he’d have to prove Buzzfeed knew it was fake.

Besides, it wasn’t. That suit has ‘loser’ written all over it.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:17:44am

Someone is very scared this morning.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:18:57am

re: #167 The Vicious Babushka

Someone is very scared this morning.

one part is true, though: “Russia & the world is laughing at the stupidity they are witnessing”

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Sir John Barron  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:19:17am

re: #167 The Vicious Babushka

Someone is very scared this morning.

It’s not like there was a meeting between Russian representatives and Junior in the Trump building during the campaign oh wait

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William Lewis  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:20:20am

re: #167 The Vicious Babushka

Someone is very scared this morning.

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Someone is afraid of dying in a prison cell…

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makeitstop  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:21:35am

re: #167 The Vicious Babushka

Republicans should finally take control!

…checks notes…

President - Republican
Senate - Republican majority
House - Republican majority

I wonder what kind of ‘control’ he’s suggesting here?

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Sir John Barron  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:21:58am

re: #169 Sir John Barron

It’s not like there was a meeting between Russian representatives and Junior in the Trump building during the campaign oh wait

It’s also not like Trump fired the FBI director because the FBI director continued to look into Trump’s crony’s Russian ties oh wait

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Bubblehead II  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:22:49am

re: #167 The Vicious Babushka

Someone is very scared this morning.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:22:51am

re: #172 Sir John Barron

It’s also not like Trump fired the FBI director because the FBI director continued to look into Trump’s crony’s Russian ties oh wait

It’s also not like Trump begged Wikileaks to hack his campaign opponent or that Wikileaks has suspicious ties to Russia oh wait

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Sir John Barron  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:26:52am

re: #171 makeitstop

…checks notes…

President - Republican
Senate - Republican majority
House - Republican majority

I wonder what kind of ‘control’ he’s suggesting here?

Maybe he wants some other Republicans to fire Mueller, hold more hearings on BENGHAZI or the Clinton Foundation, etc.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:27:40am

re: #166 makeitstop

Besides, it wasn’t. That suit has ‘loser’ written all over it.

Sounds like a lose-lose proposition for Says Who Cohen.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:28:21am

re: #175 Sir John Barron

Red Herring variant: Mention something that sounds important but means nothing.

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Belafon  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:28:37am

re: #170 William Lewis

Someone is afraid of dying in a prison cell…

And I don’t need him dying in prison. I’d settle for him sitting outside the former Trump Tower in New York ranting about being president and begging for money.

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allegro  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:30:23am

re: #178 Belafon

And I don’t need him dying in prison. I’d settle for him sitting outside the former Trump Tower in New York ranting about being president and begging for money.

Prison would cost us a lot less than paying for SS for him for life. I go for austerity.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:30:38am

re: #174 Sir John Barron

It’s also not like Trump begged Wikileaks to hack his campaign opponent or that Wikileaks has suspicious ties to Russia oh wait

He directly begged Russia to get hold of Hillary’s emails.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:33:12am

re: #154 darthstar

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So that’s what he’s doing during “Executive Time.”

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:34:54am

re: #181 Barefoot Grin

I thought it was Trump talking to himself on the golden throne. /half

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dangerman  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:36:36am

re: #137 PhillyPretzel

Another person who never heard of “spell-check” or a dictionary.

or read a map

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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:38:23am

re: #173 Bubblehead II

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Keep on telling yourself that champ.

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dangerman  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:38:49am

re: #152 PhillyPretzel

White House press office has no idea what a DVORAK keyboard is. And no idea what a QWERTY keyboard is. Totally clueless.

dvorak? qwerty?

what about an american sounding keyboard!?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:39:02am

re: #178 Belafon

And I don’t need him dying in prison. I’d settle for him sitting outside the former Trump Tower in New York ranting about being president and begging for money.

Hell he’d probably exile himself to Russia before he lived a pauper on our streets.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:39:22am

re: #182 PhillyPretzel

I thought it was Trump talking to himself on the golden throne. /half

I’m sure he does some side business from the throne room…

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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:39:43am

Typos happen but as we say at my office, the key is catching errors before they go out.

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allegro  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:47:05am

re: #188 HappyWarrior

Typos happen but as we say at my office, the key is catching errors before they go out.

The WH doesn’t have enough staff to answer the phones. Proof-readers are out of the question.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:47:50am

re: #171 makeitstop

…checks notes…

President - Republican
Senate - Republican majority
House - Republican majority

I wonder what kind of ‘control’ he’s suggesting here?

There is still this pesky Constitution thingie standing in the way of what they want to achieve. He means TOTAL KONRTOLL

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I cannot.  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:50:26am

re: #186 HappyWarrior

Hell he’d probably exile himself to Russia burn the world down before he lived a pauper on our streets.

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dangerman  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:50:38am

politico via politicalwire.com

“The IRS is facing its first big challenge implementing the new tax law: deciding how much in taxes to withhold from millions of Americans’ paychecks,” Politico reports.

The agency is under pressure to take as little as possible so people will see big increases in their take-home pay ahead of this year’s midterm elections… How the IRS — which is supposed to be apolitical — decides to implement withholding could go a long way toward shaping public opinion on the controversial law.”

(my bold)

if they fold to pressure and bake in this under-withholding, there will be fury on 4/15 when all those people find they’re getting almost nothing back or worse, actually owe money

granted it will be after the midterms

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Decatur Deb  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:51:18am

re: #178 Belafon

And I don’t need him dying in prison. I’d settle for him sitting outside the former Trump Tower in New York ranting about being president and begging for money.

He should live out his life in luxury on some foreign island, without broadband, starting now.

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MsJ  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:51:49am

re: #192 dangerman

politico via politicalwire.com

“The IRS is facing its first big challenge implementing the new tax law: deciding how much in taxes to withhold from millions of Americans’ paychecks,” Politico reports.

The agency is under pressure to take as little as possible so people will see big increases in their take-home pay ahead of this year’s midterm elections… How the IRS — which is supposed to be apolitical — decides to implement withholding could go a long way toward shaping public opinion on the controversial law.”

(my bold)

if they fold to pressure and bake in this under-withholding, there will be fury on 4/15 when all those people find they’re getting almost nothing back or worse, actually owe money

granted it will be after the midterms

I upped my W4 withholding big time, knowing that trump is going to fuck me.

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mmmirele  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:52:25am

re: #44 Joe Bacon 🌹

Christopher Cross—one of the prime architects of “Yacht Rock” along with Michael McDonald, Kenny Loggins, Dan Fogelberg…and the guy who did the Pina Colada song that endlessly looped on AM stations in the late 70s…

Christopher Cross played frat parties at UT Austin in the early 1980s. Alternately, my co-op hired Stevie Ray Vaughn to play a gig at one of our notorious parties. I think we paid lots more but got the better deal.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:54:05am

re: #195 mmmirele

Christopher Cross played frat parties at UT Austin in the early 1980s. Alternately, my co-op hired Stevie Ray Vaughn to play a gig at one of our notorious parties. I think we paid lots more but got the better deal.

I can already tell which of those two would be the better party gig musician.

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dangerman  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:54:53am

re: #194 MsJ

I upped my W4 withholding big time, knowing that trump is going to fuck me.

nothing wrong with individuals making decisions and planning.

this is a farce on a fraud.
manipulating withholding for the masses to make it look like a bigger tax cut.

withholding is an estimate.
your tax is your tax.
people are going to be furious
whether it’s too late or not….

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allegro  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:56:55am

re: #195 mmmirele

Christopher Cross played frat parties at UT Austin in the early 1980s. Alternately, my co-op hired Stevie Ray Vaughn to play a gig at one of our notorious parties. I think we paid lots more but got the better deal.

My high school in 1967 (I think) had a concert by a skinny blind kid named Stevie Wonder. He was amazeballs even then.

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MsJ  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:57:08am

re: #197 dangerman

nothing wrong with individuals making decisions and planning.

this is a farce on a fraud.
manipulating withholding for the masses to make it look like a bigger tax cut.

withholding is an estimate.
your tax is your tax.
people are going to be furious
whether it’s too late or not….

I know. A lot of people use that return to make big purchases, kinda like a forced savings account. People are going to be livid. Whether they know that in time…remains to be seen.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:58:40am

re: #198 allegro

My high school in 1967 (I think) had a concert by a skinny blind kid named Stevie Wonder. He was amazeballs even then.

Who? //. This is more old time but apparently my Dad’s parents high school had a performance played by some guy named Perry Como. Then Dad’s Dad became a frat brother of some dancer who later Sang in the Rain.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:58:59am

re: #197 dangerman

people are going to be furious
whether it’s too late or not….

The whole point of this tax plan is that enough middle-income people will get enough “visible” tax relief in the first years so that they continue to vote GOP

the true extent of the damage will not become visible until after the 2020 elections

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dangerman  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:01:07am

re: #198 allegro

My high school in 1967 (I think) had a concert by a skinny blind kid named Stevie Wonder. He was amazeballs even then.

1974-5 prom Tommy James and the Shondells
it was at Leonard’s on long island
one of the other schools - in one of the other rooms, had a skating chimpanzee

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ObserverArt  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:01:58am

re: #164 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Our government is one enormous fucking RICO suit…

Sorry Wendell/Ralphie…Imma gone to have to file a suit against you for infringement of intellectual property.

I posted this yesterday…

Which means Grassley and Graham look guilty as hell and now Mueller may very well be investigating them too…for obstruction and maybe collusion with Trump’s people to obstruct.

You know, would it bother anyone if this investigation takes down the FBI, Trump and Clan and a good portion of the Republican party?

It really does seem to be one big RICO as to me the whole damn party is a Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organization.

Link and time stamped!

Fusion GPS Founder Told Senate Investigators the FBI Had a Whistleblower in Trump’s Network - #58

SInce we are in Trump World, I figure I need to sue whenever and whoever for any slight.

You will be hearing from my lawyer Michael Cohen, Esq. I suggest you not fight me, Cohen is one bad dude!

: )

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Sir John Barron  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:03:02am

re: #199 MsJ

I know. A lot of people use that return to make big purchases, kinda like a forced savings account. People are going to be livid. Whether they know that in time…remains to be seen.

Can you change your withholding at any time of the year?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:04:21am

So the Trumpers are making a big deal of the fact that SK’s President said that Trump deserves credit for getting NK to neogitate. Okay. That doesn’t change the fact that he puts those talks in danger everytime he makes a stupid tweet about the situation.

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Belafon  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:04:35am

re: #204 Sir John Barron

Can you change your withholding at any time of the year?

Yes. My company allows me to do it through their website, but you just have to submit a new W4.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:04:49am

re: #191 I cannot.

That too.

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Belafon  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:05:22am

re: #205 HappyWarrior

So the Trumpers are making a big deal of the fact that SK’s President said that Trump deserves credit for getting NK to neogitate. Okay. That doesn’t change the fact that he puts those talks in danger everytime he makes a stupid tweet about the situation.

How many troops did Trump threaten to pull if the SK president didn’t say that?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:05:35am

re: #203 ObserverArt

Sorry Wendell/Ralphie…Imma gone to have to file a suit against you for infringement of intellectual property.

I posted this yesterday…

Link and time stamped!

Fusion GPS Founder Told Senate Investigators the FBI Had a Whistleblower in Trump’s Network - #58

SInce we are in Trump World, I figure I need to sue whenever and whoever for any slight.

You will be hearing from my lawyer Michael Cohen, Esq. I suggest you not fight me, Cohen is one bad dude!

: )

Point is that his party could send him up any time for violations of the Emoluments Clause, blatant conflicts of interest or obstruction of justice, but they are too deeply invested in it all.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:06:13am

re: #208 Belafon

How many troops did Trump threaten to pull if the SK president didn’t say that?

Yeah we don’t know what’s going on behind the scenes.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:06:17am

re: #205 HappyWarrior

So the Trumpers are making a big deal of the fact that SK’s President said that Trump deserves credit for getting NK to neogitate. Okay. That doesn’t change the fact that he puts those talks in danger everytime he makes a stupid tweet about the situation.

Kneel before Zod…

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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:06:55am

I just love how fickle the Trump cult is. International relations mean nothing. // And then they find a rare democratically elected leader that praises him.

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dangerman  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:07:00am

re: #201 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The whole point of this tax plan is that enough middle-income people will get enough “visible” tax relief in the first years so that they continue to vote GOP

the true extent of the damage will not become visible until after the 2020 elections

i agree with your point
it will affect peoples net final tax and some will see relief, most wont
and most of that is temporary
that’s the farce

this is the fraud on top of that - because it’s manipulation of the withholding tables by government fiat. you could reduce withholding to zero. that’s not tax relief. its payment deferral and it’s hidden. it doesnt change your tax.

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allegro  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:07:16am

re: #202 dangerman

1974-5 prom Tommy James and the Shondells
it was at Leonard’s on long island
one of the other schools - in one of the other rooms, had a skating chimpanzee

Tommy James would be great for a prom. More intriguing is the skating chimp. Gotta be worth a few mentions in the yearbook.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:07:57am

re: #214 allegro

Tommy James would be great for a prom. More intriguing is the skating chimp. Gotta be worth a few mentions in the yearbook.

The skating chimp sounds awesome.

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dangerman  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:09:04am

re: #204 Sir John Barron

Can you change your withholding at any time of the year?

yes - you can generally update your w-4 anytime you want

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William Lewis  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:09:31am

re: #202 dangerman

1974-5 prom Tommy James and the Shondells
it was at Leonard’s on long island
one of the other schools - in one of the other rooms, had a skating chimpanzee

Nothing as fancy as that around here. My class graduation party was a local cover band and dozens of kegs of cheap beer because the drinking age was still 18 and we were almost all over that age :D A big dance area & everyone showed up. Mostly hung out in the usual cliques but mingled much more than usual. Hell even I got a hug & kiss (and feel) from a cheerleader ;)

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MsJ  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:09:57am

re: #204 Sir John Barron

Can you change your withholding at any time of the year?

Yes. Just ask your employer for a new W4.

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dangerman  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:10:13am

re: #209 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Point is that his party could send him up any time for violations of the Emoluments Clause, blatant conflicts of interest or obstruction of justice, but they are too deeply invested in it all.

like i said yesterday -

it is just like watergate. it leads everywhere

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Decatur Deb  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:10:42am

re: #202 dangerman

1974-5 prom Tommy James and the Shondells
it was at Leonard’s on long island
one of the other schools - in one of the other rooms, had a skating chimpanzee

The monastery school had no outside entertainment, but each class was expected to do the monthly show once each year. Ours did a mock rock group called Little Aeneas and the Trojans. We were so naive that no one made a joke of it.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:10:48am

I didn’t go to prom. I was too shy to get a date and I would have felt like a fish out of water without a date at prom. Goes to show you how different I am from my brother who is not only going to prom this year but is part of the organizing committee since he’s in the Junior class executive leadership.

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MsJ  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:11:38am

re: #213 dangerman

i agree with your point
it will affect peoples net final tax and some will see relief, most wont
and most of that is temporary
that’s the farce

this is the fraud on top of that - because it’s manipulation of the withholding tables by government fiat. you could reduce withholding to zero. that’s not tax relief. its payment deferral and it’s hidden. it doesnt change your tax.

I am married with a dependent. My W4 uses the Single table (which is higher than married) and I take out an extra $250 a month on top of that.

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MsJ  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:13:43am

re: #222 MsJ

I am married with a dependent. My W4 uses the Single table (which is higher than married) and I take out an extra $250 a month on top of that.

I do this for multiple reasons…I upped to $250 now because of Trump but I file in two countries. So I prefer to get the money back from the IRS so I can pay Canada.

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dangerman  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:14:16am

re: #222 MsJ

I am married with a dependent. My W4 uses the Single table (which is higher than married) and I take out an extra $250 a month on top of that.

you’re active and pro-active
and smarter than most (lgf company excepted)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:15:30am

re: #223 MsJ

I do this for multiple reasons…I upped to $250 now because of Trump but I file in two countries. So I prefer to get the money back from the IRS so I can pay Canada.

I basically used to take my federal tax rebate to pay my state taxes

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bill d. (b.d.)  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:17:29am

Issa not seeking re-election per CNN banner headline.

Down they go!

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:17:57am

Since I am not good with numbers of any sort. I will let my accountant help me as to deductions and the rest of that tax stuff.

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William Lewis  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:19:39am

Hey gamers, did I mention that I picked up a used copy of the Game of the Year edition of Morrowind? It runs, natively, on Linux using the OpenMW engine. It’s a real blast - even though it’s like 16 years old now, it’s a far more interesting game than the newer Skyrim- if nothing else I like that the enemies are not scaled. It’s up to you to know when you need to run away :) A nice way to waste a couple of hours on a day off.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:20:36am

re: #221 HappyWarrior

I didn’t go to prom. I was too shy to get a date and I would have felt like a fish out of water without a date at prom. Goes to show you how different I am from my brother who is not only going to prom this year but is part of the organizing committee since he’s in the Junior class executive leadership.

Don’t feel bad about that. I didn’t go while I was in High School either. I actually went to a Prom for the first time the year after I graduated- not that weird. The young lady that asked me was a very good friend. She as a senior that year, was actually older than I was by about a month(I started school a year early, and my age class was the same as hers).

Now as a High School teacher, I’ve had to chaperone prom a number of times. I hate prom just as much now as I did then.

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ObserverArt  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:22:27am

re: #209 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Point is that his party could send him up any time for violations of the Emoluments Clause, blatant conflicts of interest or obstruction of justice, but they are too deeply invested in it all.

Agreed. We are on the same page.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:24:46am

re: #229 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

Don’t feel bad about that. I didn’t go while I was in High School either. I actually went to a Prom for the first time the year after I graduated- not that weird. The young lady that asked me was a very good friend. She as a senior that year, was actually older than I was by about a month(I started school a year early, and my age class was the same as hers).

Now as a High School teacher, I’ve had to chaperone prom a number of times. I hate prom just as much now as I did then.

I’m good dude. Much more comfortable in my own shoes now almost fifteen years later.

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allegro  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:26:44am

re: #221 HappyWarrior

I didn’t go to prom. I was too shy to get a date and I would have felt like a fish out of water without a date at prom. Goes to show you how different I am from my brother who is not only going to prom this year but is part of the organizing committee since he’s in the Junior class executive leadership.

I didn’t go to prom either. Instead of spending all the money on dresses, tux rentals, dinner, parties, etc. a group of us went to the Bahamas. Still can’t believe our parents let us go. We had a blast.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:27:31am

re: #232 allegro

I didn’t go to prom either. Instead of spending all the money on dresses, tux rentals, dinner, parties, etc. a group of us went to the Bahamas. Still can’t believe our parents let us go. We had a blast.

Now, that’s far more memorable. Didn’t do anything like that either. I was really really shy in those days. I still am shy but more comfortable.

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ObserverArt  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:29:22am

re: #219 dangerman

like i said yesterday -

it is just like watergate. it leads everywhere

And you are getting served papers to show up in court as a witness to my original intellectual property.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:30:26am

re: #232 allegro

I didn’t go to prom either. Instead of spending all the money on dresses, tux rentals, dinner, parties, etc. a group of us went to the Bahamas. Still can’t believe our parents let us go. We had a blast.

This town has three high schools, about 100 miles from a raging beach resort town. Too many years, one carload from the proms doesn’t make it back.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:30:38am

re: #232 allegro

I didn’t go to prom either. Instead of spending all the money on dresses, tux rentals, dinner, parties, etc. a group of us went to the Bahamas. Still can’t believe our parents let us go. We had a blast.

Me and a couple buddies took what would have been tux money and went to an all you can eat restaurant and got a bunch of junk food brought it home and played some video games. Much more fun than a prom.

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mmmirele  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:31:02am

If the IRS is monkeying with withholding, it’s not very much.

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dangerman  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:32:06am

re: #234 ObserverArt

And you are getting served papers to show up in court as a witness to my original intellectual property.

no worries
i have the bullshit prepared before they even ask a question

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allegro  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:32:07am

re: #235 Decatur Deb

This town has three high schools, about 100 miles from a raging beach resort town. Too many years, one carload from the proms doesn’t make it back.

Ouch. That takes tragedy to an unimaginable level.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:32:40am

re: #237 mmmirele

If the IRS is monkeying with withholding, it’s not very much.

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Is that all 2018 money? It’s pretty early to sense it.

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plansbandc  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:33:04am

Just read that the Connors are going to be Trumpsters in the reboot of Roseanne.

Guess that’s not too surprising given the slobbering love Roseanne has for him. I was looking forward to the show, as I was a big fan back in the day. No way I’m watching it now.

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dangerman  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:35:32am

re: #237 mmmirele

If the IRS is monkeying with withholding, it’s not very much.

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the law took effect 1/1
they are still working on the new tables - so nothing’s out or changed yet

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Archangelus  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:35:54am

BOOYAH!

And don’t let the door hit you on the way out!

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ipsos  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:36:24am

re: #240 Decatur Deb

Is that all 2018 money? It’s pretty early to sense it.

The political timing here is pretty hopeless for what the tax scammers are trying to do. Whatever refunds show up in taxpayers’ mailboxes in April 2018 will be based on 2017 tax filings at 2017 tax rates. Whatever benefit some taxpayers in red states get from the new rates will show up immediately only in the form of pretty tiny changes in withholding for now - and by the time they see what they really get for 2018, it will be April 2019 and the midterms will be long over.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:38:17am

re: #241 plansbandc

Just read that the Connors are going to be Trumpsters in the reboot of Roseanne.

Guess that’s not too surprising given the slobbering love Roseanne has for him. I was looking forward to the show, as I was a big fan back in the day. No way I’m watching it now.

She was a rather unappealing person before, so this doesn’t enhance it any.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:40:15am

re: #245 Sir John Barron

She was a rather unappealing person before, so this doesn’t enhance it any.

For awhile she tried to play it off as “what I meant was ‘he’s good for comedians’,” but that was obviously a lie.

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makeitstop  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:41:53am

re: #196 wheat-dogg

I can already tell which of those two would be the better party gig musician.

I’m still wondering about that fill-in gig he did for Deep Purple! How would that work?

I’ve got a pal that worked for Blackmore for a while. Maybe I’ll ask him about it, he might have actually been there.

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plansbandc  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:42:31am

It’s raining! First precipitation in over 3 months!

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:43:12am
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retired cynic  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:45:06am

re: #110 Hecuba’s daughter

I recall walking in Chicago sometime during the early 80’s (maybe late 70’s?) when there was a -25°F real temperature.

I remember that winter! I was downstate, but we were -15F real temp, with windchills of -75. We had a horse that had torn a flap of skin off her forehead, and we spent all day thawing out the flap a quarter inch at a time and sewing it up. That was as much as we could do without our fingers freezing, and having to go back inside to “warm” up.

My father said the coldest he ever was was in Army camp before being shipped overseas to Normandy. The camp was in Jacksonville FL, and there were no plan for cold weather and no insulation. And of course, it was damp. So it is relative, for sure!

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makeitstop  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:45:18am

re: #203 ObserverArt

Cohen is one bad dude!

Says who?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:47:13am

Sneaky Dianne…

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:50:22am

re: #252 Backwoods_Sleuth

OMG If he really wants a sneaky Diane (I know different spelling) I will gladly give him my kid sister’s address. The uncouth one will be verbally whacked every way possible.

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:51:54am
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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:53:12am

re: #213 dangerman

i agree with your point
it will affect peoples net final tax and some will see relief, most wont
and most of that is temporary
that’s the farce

this is the fraud on top of that - because it’s manipulation of the withholding tables by government fiat. you could reduce withholding to zero. that’s not tax relief. its payment deferral and it’s hidden. it doesnt change your tax.

But there is a tax penalty if the withholding is too low. So taxpayers will be very unhappy in 2019 if they are (1) no longer getting a refund and (2) actually have to pay a penalty because their withholding was too low. Unfortunately, as others have said, people won’t realize the scam until after the 2018 elections.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:55:56am

“Has, on NUMEROUS occasions said that no collusion between Trump/Russia has been found…”

Yeah, I don’t fucking think so Donnie. Citation needed.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:57:09am

Aside: I am in the King of Prussia Pa right now. I just heard two guys discussing Trump. They said they like him because he is “doing” things that have not been worked on before but they also said that he knows nothing of politics. They looked like mid level type of managers. I kept my mouth shut but those guys do not understand what kind of con-man he is.

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ObserverArt  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:57:42am

How I just spent my morning. When I saw Bubblehead II mention “IT” is up again in #124 a thought for a new Photoshop hit me…and I just had to do IT!

An even more scary clown!
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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:57:57am

re: #252 Backwoods_Sleuth

Sneaky Dianne…

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LOL. He’s steaming.

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Bubblehead II  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:58:07am
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ObserverArt  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:58:58am

re: #251 makeitstop

Says who?

You didn’t take it in the context of my joking with Wendell about my suing him for stealing my intellectual property.

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BlueSpotinAL  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:59:17am

re: #244 ipsos

The political timing here is pretty hopeless for what the tax scammers are trying to do. Whatever refunds show up in taxpayers’ mailboxes in April 2018 will be based on 2017 tax filings at 2017 tax rates. Whatever benefit some taxpayers in red states get from the new rates will show up immediately only in the form of pretty tiny changes in withholding for now - and by the time they see what they really get for 2018, it will be April 2019 and the midterms will be long over.

Additionally, with health insurance going up and usually withheld, the net take-home pay won’t be nearly as much.

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makeitstop  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:00:25am

Here’s another record Trump can claim - although I doubt he will..

House Republicans, already growing nervous about the prospects for retaining the majority this year, just hit a new milestone.

According to NPR, 30 Republican members of Congress have declined to seek re-election in 2018 — 12 of whom are pursuing runs for higher office, and 18 of whom are retiring outright.

That count increased to 31 Wednesday, when the OC Daily reported that embattled California Rep. Darrell Issa — the infamous former Oversight Committee chair who first made Benghazi a household name, and who barely won re-election in 2016 — is expected to announce his retirement as well.

The list does not even include GOP congressmen who resigned without completing their terms, like Utah Rep. Jason Chaffetz and Pennsylvania Rep. Tim Murphy.

This breaks the previous modern-era record for House retirements from a single party, which was when 28 Democrats retired in 1994 ahead of Newt Gingrich’s “Republican Revolution.”

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BlueSpotinAL  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:00:36am

re: #241 plansbandc

Just read that the Connors are going to be Trumpsters in the reboot of Roseanne.

Guess that’s not too surprising given the slobbering love Roseanne has for him. I was looking forward to the show, as I was a big fan back in the day. No way I’m watching it now.

There is no point to political comedy that does not speak truth to power. That is why conservative comedians suck.

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Bubblehead II  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:00:42am

re: #258 ObserverArt

How I just spent my morning. When I saw Bubblehead II mention “IT” is up again in #124 a thought for a new Photoshop hit me…and I just had to do IT!

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Thanks for the H/T. And also tweeted.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:00:45am

re: #252 Backwoods_Sleuth

Sneaky Dianne…

I think that translates more like (((Sneaky Dianne Feinstein))) or “Sneaky Jew”

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Stanley Sea  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:01:17am

re: #198 allegro

Hall & Oats played at my Jr. HS.

Sarah Smile.

Crazy to think about it now!

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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:02:37am

re: #266 FormerDirtDart

I’m sure David Duke will go with that.

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BlueSpotinAL  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:03:39am

re: #252 Backwoods_Sleuth

Sneaky Dianne…

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Gollum J Trump on Sneaky Feinsteins

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ObserverArt  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:03:44am

re: #267 Stanley Sea

Hall & Oats played at my Jr. HS.

Sarah Smile.

Crazy to think about it now!

Okay Stanley…what “upscale” Junior High did you attend?

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:03:55am

This should be entertaining

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makeitstop  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:04:10am

re: #261 ObserverArt

You didn’t take it in the context of my joking with Wendell about my suing him for stealing my intellectual property.

And you didn’t take my response in the context of Cohen’s infamous ‘Says who?’ appearance on CNN…

Cohen to CNN’s Keilar: What polls show Donald Trump is losing?

That’s why I call him ‘Says Who Cohen.’ :)

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ObserverArt  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:04:52am

re: #272 makeitstop

And you didn’t take my response in the context of Cohen’s infamous ‘Says who?’ appearance on CNN…

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That’s why I call him ‘Says Who Cohen.’ :)

You got me!

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:05:15am

Wow. It really is that racist bubblehead douchebag Stephen Miller who holds the fate of hundreds of thousands in his hands. This report seems to say that Republicans are willing to do a bipartisan deal but Miller wields too much influence in the WH.

mcclatchydc.com

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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:06:18am

re: #272 makeitstop

And you didn’t take my response in the context of Cohen’s infamous ‘Says who?’ appearance on CNN…

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That’s why I call him ‘Says Who Cohen.’ :)

You mean all of them? I don’t think he’s ever had a 50% approval rating.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:07:13am

re: #274 Barefoot Grin

Wow. It really is that racist bubblehead douchebag Stephen Miller who holds the fate of hundreds of thousands in his hands. This report seems to say that Republicans are willing to do a bipartisan deal but Miller wields too much influence in the WH.

mcclatchydc.com

Richard Spencer’s protege controls people’s fate on immigration. FML.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:07:28am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:07:55am

re: #271 FormerDirtDart

This should be entertaining

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would that be a joint news conference with Normay?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:10:34am

oh joy…

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Bubblehead II  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:11:51am

re: #274 Barefoot Grin

Wow. It really is that racist bubblehead douchebag Stephen Miller who holds the fate of hundreds of thousands in his hands. This report seems to say that Republicans are willing to do a bipartisan deal but Miller wields too much influence in the WH.

mcclatchydc.com

Please don’t use my nic in the same sentence as stephen miller. I feel so dirty now.

/// :-)

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ObserverArt  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:12:36am

re: #279 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh joy…

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Yeah…it sounds like late Friday into Saturday is gonna be a huge mess. Local forecasts said icy rain then a big snow of maybe up to 7” by Saturday mid-day.

Not looking forward to this at all. Ugh.

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ObserverArt  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:13:21am

re: #280 Bubblehead II

Please don’t use my nic in the same sentence as stephen miller. I feel so dirty now.

/// :-)

Sue em!

This is Trump Time…it is how you get ahead…just like Trump. : )

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makeitstop  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:14:50am

re: #281 ObserverArt

Yeah…it sounds like late Friday into Saturday is gonna be a huge mess. Local forecasts said icy rain then a big snow of maybe up to 7” by Saturday mid-day.

Not looking forward to this at all. Ugh.

Can you see your way clear to keep it over there? I’m still about a foot deep over here, even with the sun and mild temp today.

Thanks! :)

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Stanley Sea  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:15:12am

ISSA is retiring.

Holy shit.

Something is going on.

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danarchy  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:15:46am

re: #256 Eclectic Cyborg

“Has, on NUMEROUS occasions said that no collusion between Trump/Russia has been found…”

Yeah, I don’t fucking think so Donnie. Citation needed.

Well there is this, but it is several months old, not sure if she has done so recently.

realclearpolitics.com

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:15:48am
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Stanley Sea  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:16:32am

re: #270 ObserverArt

Okay Stanley…what “upscale” Junior High did you attend?

kYPhsbtxdryV/S+9WQSquQEKDEmZMaEMdRgSulTm8ZuCJEA7S0XHh6YN+dMTfEaA

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:16:40am

heh

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:16:43am

re: #284 Stanley Sea

It is called abandoning ship. The retiring politicos are trying to get off the USS Trump before it goes down.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:16:44am

re: #284 Stanley Sea

ISSA is retiring.

Holy shit.

Something is going on.

Wouldn’t be surprised if Rohrabacher is next.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:17:14am

re: #288 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh

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LOL owned.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:17:30am

re: #289 PhillyPretzel

It is called abandoning ship. The retiring politicos are trying to get off the USS Trump before it goes down.

Yep.

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makeitstop  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:17:30am

re: #284 Stanley Sea

ISSA is retiring.

Holy shit.

Something is going on.

They’re all cashing out. Gonna need extra time to count the money they’ll be making from the new tax law.

And I think they see the tsunami that’s going to break over the White House and Congress and they want to get out of the way.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:18:46am

sigh

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darthstar  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:18:55am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:19:03am

re: #293 makeitstop

They’re all cashing out. Gonna need extra time to count the money they’ll be making from the new tax law.

And I think they see the tsunami that’s going to break over the White House and Congress and they want to get out of the way.

This isn’t a bunch who sees themselves as having a year this year for sure. Trump is going to flip out when the wave comes.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:19:06am

re: #284 Stanley Sea

ISSA is retiring.

Holy shit.

Something is going on.

Yeah, inability to win another election. He squeaked in last time, and now there’s a blue wave coming.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:19:40am

re: #280 Bubblehead II

Please don’t use my nic in the same sentence as stephen miller. I feel so dirty now.

/// :-)

Ha! Sorry

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Mike Lamb  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:19:41am

re: #266 FormerDirtDart

I think that translates more like (((Sneaky Dianne Feinstein))) or “Sneaky Jew”

Totally sneaky to release it publicly with her name attached.

And coming to a future Q&A:

Q: Mr. Trump, you said that Sen. Feinstein may have illegally released the transcript of Simpson’s testimony. What laws may have been violated?

A: Some people, many people have said that it might be illegal. You’d have to ask them.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:19:56am

re: #297 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Yeah, inability to win another election. He squeaked in last time, and now there’s a blue wave coming.

I do like blue waves.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:19:56am

gaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh

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darthstar  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:20:20am

re: #284 Stanley Sea

ISSA is retiring.

Holy shit.

Something is going on.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:21:25am
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retired cynic  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:24:29am

re: #193 Decatur Deb

He should live out his life in luxury on some foreign island, without broadband, starting now.

Is there one near Antarctica we could use?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:24:42am

re: #301 Backwoods_Sleuth

gaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh

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What the hell qualifies him?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:25:39am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:26:19am

re: #306 Backwoods_Sleuth

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You mean the president is doing his job? Thanks FNC.

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darthstar  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:27:15am

re: #307 HappyWarrior

You mean the president is doing his job? Thanks FNC.

Well, he has to give housekeeping time to refill his mini fridge with microwaveable cheeseburgers.

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Skip Intro  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:27:26am

re: #154 darthstar

That would be like five houses in Montecito, Pebble Beach, Malibu, or Atherton here in CA.

Not all that great IMO.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:27:35am
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ObserverArt  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:28:22am

This is what being in a hurry and not paying attention to driving conditions can cause…and cost you your life.

It was warm enough to begin melting snow yesterday and then cold enough to refreeze overnight. Then it was foggy this morning and that added to the slickness on the road.

This happened probably right around the big Honda car manufacturing plant north of Columbus, up around Marysville.

Slow down! I can’t imagine how fast he was going to slide off and then across the road.

Warning: Grim scene of the crash remains.

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scottslemmons  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:28:41am

re: #305 HappyWarrior

What the hell qualifies him?

He’s a hardcore Republican/libertarian who’s managed to trick people into thinking he’s liberal-friendly.

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allegro  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:29:47am

re: #294 Backwoods_Sleuth

sigh

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Put those nursing home residents to work!

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ObserverArt  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:31:09am

re: #289 PhillyPretzel

It is called abandoning ship. The retiring politicos are trying to get off the USS Trump before it goes down.

And everyone in the party is put under scrutiny for obstruction.

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mmmirele  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:31:54am

re: #240 Decatur Deb

Yes. It’s all 2018.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:33:05am

re: #314 ObserverArt

That is why my ward leader last election asked me if I minded handing out Democratic lit. I said “If I am to going against the Democratic ward leader and her mother then it is okay.

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cat-tikvah  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:33:57am

re: #200 HappyWarrior

Hail to Pitt!

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:35:43am
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Skip Intro  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:35:57am

re: #310 Backwoods_Sleuth

I look forward to the whole story about Lindsey Graham coming out.

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BeachDem  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:36:04am

And right on cue—

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makeitstop  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:37:33am

re: #310 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He’s catching shit on that thread. My fave so far:

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Skip Intro  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:37:44am

re: #320 BeachDem

And right on cue—

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Does Trump have a hotel of golf course there? If not, tough shit Henry.

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ObserverArt  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:39:13am

re: #320 BeachDem

And right on cue—

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Almost every governor of every coastal state will be asking the same.

Does anyone in The White House think anything through???

Wait…I think the answer is rather obvious.

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makeitstop  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:42:15am

re: #323 ObserverArt

Almost every governor of every coastal state will be asking the same.

Does anyone in The White House think anything through???

Wait…I think the answer is rather obvious.

Would the states be able to override the ruling? I’d imagine quite a few would want to do that.

I’m wondering if Schneiderman has filed suit against it yet.

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makeitstop  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:44:14am

The Moscow-ization of DC continues apace.

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BeachDem  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:45:16am

re: #322 Skip Intro

Does Trump have a hotel of golf course there? If not, tough shit Henry.

No, but Henry McMaster has been a true loyalist since yamday 1. We know how he values loyalty, so it’s a possibility. Although Mark Sanford is also quite vocal against offshore drilling and he is not a yamfan at all. We shall see…

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:46:47am

re: #286 The Vicious Babushka

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dangerman  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:47:39am

re: #260 Bubblehead II

Can you say bribe or perhaps quid quo pro? @realDonaldTrump wipes Deutche Bank fine and they wipe out or reduce the amount he owes them.

but uranium…..donations! ///

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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:48:26am

re: #317 cat-tikvah

Hail to Pitt!

True story but when my grandfather died, my cousin wrote to Gene and he wrote back. He remembered our grandfather quite well.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:49:32am

re: #320 BeachDem

And right on cue—

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Other states have beautiful and pristine coastline but I guess they didn’t kiss orange ass enough.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:50:24am

re: #327 FormerDirtDart

NOT A PERFORMANCE! NOT A PUPPET!

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:50:53am
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JordanRules  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:52:42am

We got a great decision in the NC case yesterday. Hopefully the same for OH today.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:52:47am

re: #332 FormerDirtDart

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Imagine if HRC had said this after Clinton Cash….

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Sir John Barron  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:52:51am

re: #332 FormerDirtDart

“What are the nation’s libel laws? Can you be specific?”

They’re bad, really bad, everybody says so, a disgrace!

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DodgerFan1988  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:52:56am

One of the most disgusting human beings in Congress, if not in the world, is retiring.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:53:11am
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Old Liberal  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:53:39am

re: #313 allegro

Put those nursing home residents to work!

Bevin has been working on this for several years. The majority of voters in Kentucky elected this in Bevin and Trump. As an observer notes, “Kentucky is the most self-defeating place they have ever lived in”. Having been here much of the last two years, I agree.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:54:27am

re: #337 FormerDirtDart

He also says he received letters from news anchors praising him (he does not specify who) pic.twitter.com

— BuzzFeed News

Figure of speech. He no doubt watched Fox and Friends like usual.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:54:57am
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retired cynic  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:56:06am

Along with many of you, got the email from President Obama about how his Presidential Center is shaping up:

obama.org

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JordanRules  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:56:14am

re: #325 makeitstop

Nice trolling DC!
Anti Putin dude.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:56:44am

re: #341 retired cynic

Along with many of you, got the email from President Obama about how his Presidential Center is shaping up:

obama.org

I miss that guy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:56:47am
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jaunte  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:57:14am

He also says he received letters from news anchors praising him (he does not specify who)

Hannity scrambles to backdate praiseletter.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:57:15am

LOL that’s not what the FGPS Transcript shows.

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Belafon  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:57:26am

re: #310 Backwoods_Sleuth

He’s trying to muddy the revelation. “There’s more to this story! I’m not going to show you, but there’s more!”

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mmmirele  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:57:33am

re: #294 Backwoods_Sleuth

sigh

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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:57:35am

re: #344 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Good question.

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retired cynic  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:57:48am

re: #346 The Vicious Babushka

LOL that’s not what the FGPS Transcript shows.

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What a bold-faced liar!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:58:04am

re: #333 JordanRules

We got a great decision in the NC case yesterday. Hopefully the same for OH today.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:58:10am

re: #346 The Vicious Babushka

LOL that’s not what the FGPS Transcript shows.

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This guy Gaetz is one of the biggest Trump ball washers in Congress.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:58:14am

re: #342 JordanRules
It’s a DC thing. There are actually quite a few bits of streets ‘renamed’ for a political gotcha. The natives don’t use the new names, it’s just to piss someone off. Like the Russians in this situation.

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jaunte  Jan 10, 2018 • 9:59:52am

re: #347 Belafon

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He’s trying to muddy the revelation. “There’s more to this story! I’m not going to show you, but there’s more!”

FusionGPSGhazi!

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JordanRules  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:01:29am

re: #351 Backwoods_Sleuth

Quite snowflakey Husted.

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ObserverArt  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:01:37am

re: #333 JordanRules

We got a great decision in the NC case yesterday. Hopefully the same for OH today.

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The Ohio Democratic Party sent out text messages this morning linking to a facebook video that is pretty telling of how messed up this voter roll purging has become. Many people think it is about cutting African Americans, Hispanics and Muslims from voting. Not in this case.

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Belafon  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:01:43am

re: #340 Backwoods_Sleuth

He lets everyone record it, and then they attempt to change the record.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:03:09am

re: #347 Belafon

He’s trying to muddy the revelation. “There’s more to this story! I’m not going to show you, but there’s more!”

I wonder if Lindsay is as inquisitive about the Russian election meddling.

/

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makeitstop  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:03:10am

re: #342 JordanRules

Nice trolling DC!
Anti Putin dude.

Ah! I did not know that! Thanks for pointing that out.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:04:12am

re: #346 The Vicious Babushka

LOL that’s not what the FGPS Transcript shows.

TREMENDOUS COLLUSION BETWEEN DEMS AND FBI

These people….

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Sir John Barron  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:05:09am

re: #346 The Vicious Babushka

As we continue to connect the dots if we can stymie this investigation long enough we’ll see that there was no collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia but that there was tremendous collusion with the Democratic Party and the FBI to dig up these false facts.”

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ObserverArt  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:05:11am

re: #346 The Vicious Babushka

LOL that’s not what the FGPS Transcript shows.

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I know that dude is new to Congress, but he pisses me off like he has been around too long.

Piss off slick…sick of your shit.

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makeitstop  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:05:12am

re: #346 The Vicious Babushka

LOL that’s not what the FGPS Transcript shows.

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And somewhere, an FBI agent adds another name to the list…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:05:59am
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JordanRules  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:06:11am

re: #356 ObserverArt

Yeah Helle’s story has been making the rounds and is quite compelling; he’s out there protesting today.
Who is it targeting?

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jaunte  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:06:47am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:07:21am
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plansbandc  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:07:26am

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ObserverArt  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:07:35am

re: #351 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Have I ever told you how much I hate Husted. Let me count the ways.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:07:59am

re: #364 Backwoods_Sleuth

Grassley just told us that Feinstein release of transcript makes it harder to bring in Jared Kushner. Asked him if Kushner is off the hook: “No, not at all.”

— Manu Raju

Grassley seriously wants us to think he cares one whit about Kushner or anyone else in the Trump WH?

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JordanRules  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:08:05am

re: #368 plansbandc

Classic!!!!

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Sir John Barron  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:08:41am

re: #366 jaunte

He may mean emails rather than actual physical letters. But I don’t believe he got congratulatory emails either.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:09:26am
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JordanRules  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:10:02am

re: #372 Sir John Barron

He’s never used emails so letters actually make sense for lie #500,786

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ObserverArt  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:11:13am

re: #365 JordanRules

Yeah Helle’s story has been making the rounds and is quite compelling; he’s out there protesting today.
Who is it targeting?

I think the message is meant to go to active Ohio Democrats to keep everyone pissed off and outraged. Getting us ready for 2018 and the big Senate and Governor races. It’s going to be a heck of an election and a bumpy ride.

Whenever there is something the Ohio Democratic Party wants us aware of out goes a text message.

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JordanRules  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:14:29am

re: #375 ObserverArt

My bad, I meant the voter suppression. Who is it targeting?

Many people think it is about cutting African Americans, Hispanics and Muslims from voting. Not in this case.

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sagehen  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:15:39am

re: #305 HappyWarrior

What the hell qualifies him?

His tweets will be spelled correctly, with proper punctuation.

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Old Liberal  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:16:23am

re: #376 JordanRules

I think he means “in the case of the white male veteran in the story”.

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JordanRules  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:16:42am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:17:06am

re: #374 JordanRules

He’s never used emails so letters actually make sense for lie #500,786

Except that the USPS does not do 6-hour delivery.

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makeitstop  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:17:14am

re: #372 Sir John Barron

He may mean emails rather than actual physical letters. But I don’t believe he got congratulatory emails either.

Someone in the White House spoofs an email address…

Dear President Trump,

Your meeting yesterday was one of the greatest meetings in all of history! Great work!

Signed,
Network News Anchor
networknewanchor@gmail.com

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JordanRules  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:17:58am

re: #378 Old Liberal

Oh!!!! Thank you, my brain was not getting it.
I should start drinking coffee.

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darthstar  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:18:31am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:19:11am
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BeachDem  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:19:51am

re: #351 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Husted learned at the foot of the master of voter suppression (from 2012)

Secretary of State and steward of Ohio elections Jon Husted is set to appear at a “True the Vote Summit” with none other than J. Kenneth Blackwell

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ObserverArt  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:20:12am

re: #376 JordanRules

My bad, I meant the voter suppression. Who is it targeting?

I think the Republican thinking is if we kick off everyone after two years of not voting it will cut mainly Democrats since 1. Democrats are the majority of Ohio voters and 2. Democrats many times only vote for the big Presidential election.

Note it is for two years of inactivity. Of course the Presidential election is every four.

And of course, many Republican voters are always motivated and vote all the time. especially elderly.

They hope people find out when they go to vote and then give up in frustration even though they can ask for a provisional.

It’s typical Republican rat fucking dressed up to look fair and legit and not biased against either party.

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sagehen  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:20:25am

re: #325 makeitstop

The Moscow-ization of DC continues apace.

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This one’s okay by me.

Nemtsov was a Putin critic, was going to run against him, until he was murdered in broad daylight right in front of the Kremlin.

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Old Liberal  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:21:11am

Anyone here aware of programs supported by the Democratic Party (state or national) where they enlist volunteers to get people registered? I know one person here mentioned they were registering college students, but I couldn’t tell if that was self-started or organized by a Democratic entity. With all the complicated laws passed in place like Wisconsin, Florida, Michigan, etc. , I don’t understand why this isn’t a big effort by Democrats. If there is, it is a pretty good secret. I get a dozen email requests for money, never a request for my help in getting people registered.

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JordanRules  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:21:17am

re: #376 JordanRules

I got it now ObserverArt! Thanks to a helpful lizard.
Slow on the uptake and I was familiar with Helle’s situation. Wanted to make sure i wasn’t missing an angle to the story, like something known in OH about targeting other groups.

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allegro  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:22:22am

re: #372 Sir John Barron

He may mean emails rather than actual physical letters. But I don’t believe he got congratulatory emails either.

They were from John Miller, written during executive time.

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JordanRules  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:22:43am

re: #386 ObserverArt

Right, they really don’t like real deal Democracy.
If they could restrict voting to the 1% they would.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:24:46am

Darryll Issa Retiring

Is that you Darryl? Swim!

“Spending more time with the family?”
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darthstar  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:25:04am
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Belafon  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:25:12am

re: #364 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Before, if Jared lied, no one would be able to call him on it. Now, though, he might not handle having to tell the truth.”

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Old Liberal  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:26:26am

re: #386 ObserverArt

I think the Republican thinking is if we kick off everyone after two years of not voting it will cut mainly Democrats since 1. Democrats are the majority of Ohio voters and 2. Democrats many times only vote for the big Presidential election.

Note it is for two years of inactivity. Of course the Presidential election is every four.

And of course, many Republican voters are always motivated and vote all the time. especially elderly.

They hope people find out when they go to vote and then give up in frustration even though they can ask for a provisional.

It’s typical Republican rat fucking dressed up to look fair and legit and not biased against either party.

I saw an article that said that Democratic counties were purged at three times the rate of conservative areas. So this thing can be selectively targeted making it even worse. My point is, voting is freedom of speech. My vote is my speech. If I choose to express my disgust with the candidates offered and show it by abstaining from voting, why should I be removed from registration? My free speech should not be punished.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:27:28am

re: #392 Unshaken Defiance

Darryll Issa Retiring

Is that you Darryl? Swim!

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Now you’re just insulting rats.

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darthstar  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:27:28am

Yes, the President thinks this is all just one big episode of the Apprentice.

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MsJ  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:27:57am
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JordanRules  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:28:11am

re: #388 Old Liberal

Decatur Deb has done it with SPLC who have been doing it for generations. Lots of groups outside the official party apparatus do it.

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BeachDem  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:30:32am

And with everything else going on, this is what Maggie’s worried about today:

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MsJ  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:31:03am

This honestly made me tear up. I spent my life going up and down and up and down. Good for this girl!

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BeachDem  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:32:53am

re: #383 darthstar

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Not that it really matters, but

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makeitstop  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:33:12am

re: #400 BeachDem

And with everything else going on, this is what Maggie’s worried about today:

Heh.

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sagehen  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:33:20am

re: #383 darthstar

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Most of the comment thread seems to think it’s because spouses can’t be compelled to testify against each other.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:35:07am
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JordanRules  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:36:59am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:37:37am
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Belafon  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:38:00am

re: #405 FormerDirtDart

All we’re missing now is Max Headroom.

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JordanRules  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:38:32am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:38:41am

re: #400 BeachDem

And with everything else going on, this is what Maggie’s worried about today:

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Okay Maggie.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:38:54am

re: #398 MsJ

Yeah but the stock market….

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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:39:45am

re: #406 JordanRules

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He really thinks he deserves the credit for that right after he spent an entire campaign telling African-Americans they lived in hell holes. Fuck his racist ass. He has nothing ot do with the unemployment rate.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:40:22am
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Belafon  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:41:16am

re: #407 Backwoods_Sleuth

If we could travel back in time and tell Steele to give them to the Washington Post.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:42:27am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:42:43am

re: #413 Backwoods_Sleuth

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LOL okay Chuck.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:43:04am

re: #414 Belafon

If we could travel back in time and tell Steele to give them to the Washington Post.

Yeah. Sigh, Don’t know what’s gotten into the NYT.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:43:30am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:46:27am

meanwhile in Kansas:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:48:32am
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BeachDem  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:48:34am

re: #407 Backwoods_Sleuth

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And, while the whole NYT crew tweeted their little hearts out last week defending their stenographic “scoop” and their “integrity,” nary a word about the revelation in the Simpson testimony.

twitter.com

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Stanley Sea  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:48:35am

re: #336 DodgerFan1988

One of the most disgusting human beings in Congress, if not in the world, is retiring.

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I’m way behind on the thread, but I must say..

The North County San Diego Resistance was relentless on him. Protesting every day/weekend.

Such a huge win.

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Belafon  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:49:09am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:50:12am

re: #418 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He’s stupid. If anything a DiFI primary challenger would be more anti Trump. Dude forgets that California hates his orange ass.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:50:14am

This new shit about medicaid reminds me of the “work makes you free” mentality.

Scary shit.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:50:42am

re: #423 Belafon

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Good man. This has been happening a long time.

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MsJ  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:50:53am

This poor dude.

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jaunte  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:51:04am

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:51:35am

re: #425 Eclectic Cyborg

This new shit about medicaid reminds me of the “work makes you free” mentality.

Scary shit.

They should put that over the door in Trump’s wall.

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:53:09am

Troll fail.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:53:13am

re: #428 jaunte

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My brain rocks are the greatest. No one had brain rocks before me.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:54:12am

re: #430 Ace-o-aces

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Troll fail.

Yep it’s literally his last year.

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jaunte  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:54:28am

re: #431 HappyWarrior

Trump is highly geo-logical.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:54:52am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:54:52am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:55:25am

re: #433 jaunte

Trump is highly geo-logical.

He’s a sed-mentary type of guy.

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JordanRules  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:55:30am

re: #422 Stanley Sea

They actually through him a mock retirement party just yesterday while doing their weekly protests.
Then poof, next day, he announces.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:56:03am

re: #435 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Lol these babies.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:56:49am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:56:55am
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jaunte  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:56:58am

re: #435 Backwoods_Sleuth

To be fair, Trump weeks are like dog years.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:57:15am

re: #434 FormerDirtDart

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Yep sigh.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:57:59am

re: #441 jaunte

To be fair, Trump weeks are like dog years.

Coming up on 52 soon.

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Kragar  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:58:41am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:58:48am

re: #435 Backwoods_Sleuth

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 10, 2018 • 10:59:52am
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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:01:02am

re: #436 HappyWarrior

He’s a sed-mentary type of guy.

Granite, he gets flinty often.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:01:22am

re: #418 Backwoods_Sleuth

Indeed. If Feinstein were primaried, it’d be from the LEFT. This is California.

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JordanRules  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:01:25am

This.

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KGxvi  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:01:50am

re: #430 Ace-o-aces

From a real news source:

Gov. Jerry Brown on Wednesday signed a bill that allows judges to decide against imposing prison sentencing enhancements of 10 or more years in cases where firearms are used in committing a felony.

State Sen. Steven Bradford (D-Gardena) introduced the measure, saying public safety is not served by the current mandate for enhancements, which come in the form of an additional sentence of 10 years, 20 years or life in prison.

So it’s no longer mandatory, but instead judges can consider the actual facts… damn, it’s almost like the legal system understands that there are nuances to consider in most cases.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:02:30am

re: #447 Unshaken Defiance

Granite, he gets flinty often.

Hey! Be gneiss!

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wrenchwench  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:02:35am

re: #382 JordanRules

…I should start drinking coffee.

This one is taking me a while…I just don’t understand…maybe if I had more…

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:02:55am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:03:12am

re: #450 KGxvi

From a real news source:

So it’s no longer mandatory, but instead judges can consider the actual facts… damn, it’s almost like the legal system understands that there are nuances to consider in most cases.

Judicial nuance? What’s that? //

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:04:12am

re: #446 FormerDirtDart

Basically, Trump thinks libel laws should be on the criminal, not the civil side of the law, and that ‘libel’ is not intentionally publishing lies, but rather intentionally publishing the truth about him.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:04:23am

re: #453 Ace-o-aces

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A big sham. Those workers who saw Trump as their savior can’t say they weren’t warndf but hey at least they can say Merry Christmas again!

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Kragar  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:04:30am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:04:54am
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KGxvi  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:05:02am

re: #454 HappyWarrior

Judicial nuance? What’s that? //

I think we need to explain nuance generally to them first

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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:05:14am

re: #455 Blind Frog Belly White

Basically, Trump thinks libel laws should be on the criminal, not the civil side of the law, and that ‘libel’ is not intentionally publishing lies, but rather intentionally publishing the truth about him.

Yep and not a peep about this from right wing “free speech” advocates. Gee wonder why?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:05:30am

re: #459 KGxvi

I think we need to explain nuance generally to them first

Touché.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:05:44am

re: #427 MsJ

This poor dude.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:06:56am

re: #453 Ace-o-aces

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Remember how some pundits warned that Trump was oh-so-clever, and that he’d do this sort of thing repeatedly and become very popular? That was when people still thought he was just PLAYING at being a senile racist.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:08:17am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:09:03am
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Belafon  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:09:28am

re: #457 Kragar

Some very interesting paragraphs:

This does not appear to be mere chatter. Trump apparently recognizes that unified Democratic opposition has taken a toll on his popularity and craves the opportunity to establish his relevance as a bipartisan deal maker. Yet his ability to carry this off is severely hampered by his allergy to policy detail. It is not only complex or unfamiliar issues like health care that have vexed Trump. Even his policy wheelhouse has proven beyond his command as a policy maker.

The Washington Post recently reported that Trump has expressed his opposition to funding infrastructure through public-private partnerships. This is a subject Trump has some experience with through his business career, and he is absolutely correct: Giving builders public incentives has not produced the kinds of infrastructure voters want. “He doesn’t think they will work,” a source explains.

And yet, the Trump administration remains in favor of these partnerships anyway. Gary Cohn publicly endorsed public-private partnerships as the way to create more infrastructure. A White House press secretary tells the Post: “The President’s infrastructure vision is very clear and is based around 2 main goals: leveraging federal funds as efficiently as possible in order to generate over $1 trillion in infrastructure investment and expediting the burdensome and lengthy permitting process.”

This is quite remarkable. Trump has apparently been overruled by his own administration. The president is one figure jostling for influence over Trump administration policy, but he has lost out.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:09:30am

re: #464 Backwoods_Sleuth

Oh, now that’s some epic timing.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:10:46am

re: #430 Ace-o-aces

Troll fail.

Who is this snowflake?

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Old Liberal  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:11:24am

re: #456 HappyWarrior

A big sham. Those workers who saw Trump as their savior can’t say they weren’t warndf but hey at least they can say Merry Christmas again!

I don’t think they supported him because of jobs. They said they did……I think they supported him because of racism. For decades these people have voted for the party that is against unions, installs right to be screwed laws, opposed increases to minimum raise, opposed safety and health regulation. Trump was the flag bearer for that very party. And yes, they can say Merry Christmas, can have as many rapid fire large capacity guns as they want, and (hopefully) stop darker skinned people from voting. Can’t afford COBRA and can’t get Medicaid without a job but wait, there are no jobs!!!!!. FREEDOM!!!! Lose your home due to medical bankruptcy. LIBERTY!!!!!!

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Mike Lamb  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:11:26am

re: #405 FormerDirtDart

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Aside from not being letters, half are non-committal “I don’t recall the press being invited to this type of meeting” or like Barro’s “It actually discussed some substance!”.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:12:10am
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Barefoot Grin  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:12:41am

I watched quite a bit of yesterday’s meeting and one of the things that most tickled me was how every time Trump tried to be funny you’d hear hollow laughter from the Republicans, but Steny Hoyer had this “fuck this guy” look on his face throughout.

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JordanRules  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:13:46am

Cyber time!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:14:30am

re: #473 JordanRules

Cyber time!

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So he’s going after Barron, now?
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JordanRules  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:16:13am

re: #474 Blind Frog Belly White

Ha!

Though that does remind me…where is Mr. Noun, Verb, 9/11?

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:17:52am

I have a sudden urge to retire to the couch…

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makeitstop  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:20:52am

re: #475 JordanRules

Ha!

Though that does remind me…where is Mr. Noun, Verb, 9/11?

Somewhere in Turkey would be my guess.

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allegro  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:27:47am

re: #467 Eclectic Cyborg

Oh, now that’s some epic timing.

Got a feeling this is all planned. The Fusion GPS transcript release, the Comey thing, all the news stories about Mueller talking with Trump. Something’s about to pop.

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TedStriker  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:01:21pm

re: #325 makeitstop

The Moscow-ization of DC continues apace.

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re: #387 sagehen

This one’s okay by me.

Nemtsov was a Putin critic, was going to run against him, until he was murdered in broad daylight right in front of the Kremlin.

If I read that graphic right, the DC government is renaming that stretch of street in front of the Russian Embassy, not Trump & Co.; it looks to me that the DC government is getting a lick in on the Russians.


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