Trump Accuses Dianne Feinstein of Committing a Crime by Releasing the Fusion GPS Transcript

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One way you can always tell that the Trump-thing has been injured where it hurts most — his ego — is when he lashes out on Twitter and accuses his target of doing something illegal. (If only Trump could criminalize criticism of himself, imagine how much greater America would be.)

And this morning he did exactly this, attacking Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) for releasing the transcript of the interview with Fusion GPS co-founder Glenn Simpson that Senate Republicans wanted to hide from the public. (Because it laid bare their duplicity and dishonesty about the Trump-Russia dossier created by British ex-spy Christopher Steele.)

In typical grade-school fashion, Trump worked in one of his childish name-calling bits too, labeling the Senator “Sneaky Dianne Feinstein,” although what she did was the exact opposite of “sneaky,” of course.

The Washington Post’s Philip Bump lists 17 (!) other times Trump has accused his critics and political opponents of imaginary crimes: The ‘illegal’ acts Trump has spotted since 2015.

Trump followed up the attack on Feinstein with yet another tweet calling the investigation into his possible collusion with Russia a “witch hunt,” oddly capitalized.

What he means by “Republicans should finally take control” is anybody’s guess. This man is not well.

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320 comments

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Kragar  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:15:31am
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KGxvi  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:16:46am
Russia & the world is laughing at the stupidity they are witnessing.

Hey, Donny, hate to break it to you but they’re not laughing with you, they’re laughing at you.

Feinstein, for all her faults, isn’t going to just release a transcript of classified testimony. There was no real valid reason for the hearing to have been behind closed doors to begin with - the people testifying were not government employees who had access to classified information. And “oh we needed to keep it private so we could get other witnesses to testify” is bullshit, you have fucking subpoena powers, assholes.

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KGxvi  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:17:21am

re: #1 Kragar

It’s like he’s trying his damnedest to create a recession, isn’t it?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:18:37am
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Mike Lamb  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:18:40am

In which an historically illiterate turnip that is occupying the White House doesn’t realize there was an actual fucking witch hunt in America…

It’s like the moronic sports talk host that I listened to in Arizona who thought Tom Sawyer was only a Rush song.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:18:40am

re: #1 Kragar

It wouldn’t surprise me. Trade deals are complex,a nd he can barely understand a simple transaction, let alone how to manage a mutually beneficial trade arrangement among 3 partners. He automatically believes he’s been snookered in any deal where all sides are satisfied, or at least equally dissatisfied.

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JordanRules  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:18:43am

Just a nugget. No other info yet.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:20:04am

re: #4 Backwoods_Sleuth

He’s Presidential, because he didn’t crap his pants (that we know of) or drool too visibly. Mrs. FBW wondered whether they’d given him a big dose of Adderal

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:20:04am
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KGxvi  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:21:46am

re: #4 Backwoods_Sleuth

GW Bush would have been (rightly) blasted for screwing up like that, as would his father and Reagan. But I think with Trump, everyone just understands that he’s “the common clay of the new west” so they took the bar and buried it about a foot underground. Unfortunately for Trump, he keeps tripping over the little bump where the bar is buried.

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plansbandc  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:22:21am

Better throw this one in again. After all, it is her thread. :D

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:22:54am
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KGxvi  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:23:40am

re: #8 Blind Frog Belly White

Mrs. FBW wondered whether they’d given him a big dose of Adderal

Given the amount of Diet Coke he drinks, adderall probably wouldn’t be a good idea for him.

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wrenchwench  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:24:27am
Russia & the world is are laughing at the stupidity idiot they are witnessing.

FTFHim.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:24:43am

Patti Piatt is running for Tom Massie’s District 4 seat in the House.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:24:47am

re: #14 KGxvi

Given the amount of Diet Coke he drinks, adderall probably wouldn’t be a good idea for him.

“My pacemaker! It’s stuck on ‘Hummingbird!’” - Krusty

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:26:44am

re: #7 JordanRules

Just a nugget. No other info yet.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:27:30am

Well, you have to give them some credit, they have been quite consistent

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KGxvi  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:28:40am

re: #19 FormerDirtDart

How? How the fuck… the M and W keys aren’t even close to each other… like is that some sort of dyslexia misspelling?

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JordanRules  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:30:16am

re: #16 Backwoods_Sleuth

Here is Amy promoting a candidate in VA. It’s feeling wavy!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:30:22am

re: #20 KGxvi

How? How the fuck… the M and W keys aren’t even close to each other… like is that some sort of dyslexia misspelling?

Wakes we monder mhether they mere transcribing sowething handmritten.

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Skip Intro  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:30:43am

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KGxvi  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:32:16am

re: #22 Blind Frog Belly White

Wakes we monder mhether they mere transcribing sowething handmritten.

I mean, I could understand handwriting issues, I do that occasionally with p’s and b’s and d’s. But typing it out?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:32:52am

re: #20 KGxvi

How? How the fuck… the M and W keys aren’t even close to each other… like is that some sort of dyslexia misspelling?

Upside down keyboard.

//

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:33:05am

re: #24 KGxvi

I mean, I could understand handwriting issues, I do that occasionally with p’s and b’s and d’s. But typing it out?

Maybe they were speaking with a Normegian accent?

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Charles Johnson  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:33:09am

WTF Lindsey.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:33:10am

I am a bad person.
I laughed and laughed and laughed…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:33:33am

re: #26 Blind Frog Belly White

Maybe they were speaking with a Normegian accent?

isn’t it good..normegian wood…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:34:20am

re: #27 Charles Johnson

WTF Lindsey.

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Lindsey is lost in the desert and keeps finding mirages.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:34:46am

re: #27 Charles Johnson

WTF Lindsey.

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I read that as a cry for help, to get him out from under the Russian blackmail.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:35:08am

Lindseys boss is the one denying us achievements.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:35:42am

re: #29 Backwoods_Sleuth

isn’t it good..normegian wood…

It could also be Smedish.

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Kragar  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:35:45am

re: #27 Charles Johnson

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darthstar  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:35:45am

Trump isn’t exactly what I would call a Constitutional expert.

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KGxvi  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:35:45am

re: #30 Backwoods_Sleuth

Lindsey is lost in the desert and keeps finding mirages.

Andrew Sullivan used to call Graham “Butters” after the South Park character. Given his Graham and Butters’ character arches over the last couple of years, that nickname fits even better.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:36:22am

re: #19 FormerDirtDart

Well, you have to give them some credit, they have been quite consistent

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Pinning for the Fords of Normay.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:36:32am

re: #31 Blind Frog Belly White

I read that as a cry for help, to get him out from under the Russian blackmail.

interesting thought, since the “democrats” he is talking about are most likely twitter and FB Russian troll farms.

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darthstar  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:36:50am

re: #34 Kragar

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:36:54am

re: #33 Blind Frog Belly White

It could also be Smedish.

mmmm…Smedish weatballs…

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makeitstop  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:37:25am

re: #27 Charles Johnson

WTF Lindsey.

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The best thing about those Graham tweets is no matter what he says, the overwhelming majority of responses are some variant on ‘What is Trump blackmailing you with?’

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:37:25am

re: #32 Eclectic Cyborg

Lindseys boss is the one denying us achievements.

And I love that - ‘people who have no plan’ - when they had to talk Trump back down from supporting comprehensive immigration reform with a path to citizenship.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:38:00am

re: #40 Backwoods_Sleuth

mmmmwwww…Smedish weatballs…

FTFY

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:38:18am
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Sir John Barron  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:40:04am

re: #34 Kragar

Is Trump writing Lindsay’s tweets now? Hard to distinguish.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:40:24am
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FormerDirtDart  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:40:26am
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Sir John Barron  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:40:34am

re: #34 Kragar

Who are the “many Democrats”?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:41:27am
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JordanRules  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:42:28am

re: #48 Sir John Barron

Yeah Jen would like to know too.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:43:50am
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FormerDirtDart  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:44:01am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:44:14am

re: #19 FormerDirtDart

Well, you have to give them some credit, they have been quite consistent

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It’s clearly a Quark reference.

From the late 1970’s NBC Sci-Fi series Quark:
Andy (the robot): Everything is fine, mank you.
Quark: Mank you?
Andy (the robot): You’re melcome.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:44:34am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:45:46am

LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!

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Sir John Barron  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:46:05am

re: #50 JordanRules

Yeah Jen would like to know too.

Asking Lindsay or any Trumpbots for specifics means the terrorists win.

/

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:46:24am
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FormerDirtDart  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:47:38am
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JordanRules  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:47:49am

re: #55 Backwoods_Sleuth

Who is writing this nonsense?
He sounds ridiculous.

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allegro  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:47:53am

re: #20 KGxvi

How? How the fuck… the M and W keys aren’t even close to each other… like is that some sort of dyslexia misspelling?

Up is down in GOP world.

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Belafon  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:49:52am

re: #27 Charles Johnson

WTF Lindsey.

I can’t see the rest. What’s he saying?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:51:42am

re: #55 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!

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Kragar  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:52:54am

re: #48 Sir John Barron

Who are the “many Democrats”?

Berniebros

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:55:44am

If I’w the Normegian PW, I think I mould bring wy own bag of popcorn.

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calochortus  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:55:48am

re: #54 Charles Johnson

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Might have something to do with the stock market being a bit down?

(Pulling out of NAFTA, that is.)

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:56:28am

re: #20 KGxvi

Maybe somebody used one of those old keyboards with no Ws

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 10, 2018 • 11:58:22am

re: #66 SteveMcGriftFlynnComey… …corruptemoligate RN

Maybe somebody used one of those old keyboards with no Ws

Ah. The infamous Q ERTY

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:00:41pm
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Barefoot Grin  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:01:30pm

Somewhere lies the desiccated husk of Lindsey Graham’s body with tendrils attached.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:02:14pm

I presume she means his ID. Turning your Id around would be quite the trick - “Powerful, friendly beings, Captain! Powerful, friendly beings from the Id!”

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:04:26pm

re: #14 KGxvi

Given the amount of Diet Coke he drinks, adderall probably wouldn’t be a good idea for him.

Sigh. I didn’t want to jump in about it, but the Diet Coke hate hurts - especially the factually wrong assertions.

Myth: Diet Coke has intense amounts of caffeine, worse than coffee. For the record, an ounce of Diet Coke contains 4 mg of caffeine. Coffee has 3-7 times as much caffeine per ounce, from 12-30 mg.

For the record, I drink about three liters of Diet Coke a day, am over 70, and my cardiologist says I am the healthiest patient she has. Contrary to Dolt 45’s athletic example, as a golfer I am currently the best professional disc golfer in the world in the Legends division, over the age of 70.

So, please, I understand there are reasons to not want to drink Diet Coke, but don’t make it out to be what it’s not. Among other reasons, that’s not what this blog is about.

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JordanRules  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:04:58pm
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gocart mozart  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:05:41pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:06:49pm

re: #71 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

Sigh. I didn’t want to jump in about it, but the Diet Coke hate hurts - especially the the factually wrong assertions.

Myth: Diet Coke has intense amounts of caffeine, worse than coffee. For the record, an ounce of Diet Coke contains 4 mg of caffeine. Coffee has 3-7 times as much caffeine per ounce, from 12-30 mg.

For the record, I drink about three liters of Diet Coke a day, am over 70, and my cardiologist says I am the healthiest patient she has. Contrary to Dolt 45’s athletic example, in my golf world I am currently the best professional disc golfer in the Legends division, over the age of 70.

So, please, I understand there are reasons to not want to drink Diet Coke, but don’t make it out to be what it’s not. Among other reasons, that’s not what this blog is about.

Yeah, it tastes like mix of Coke and a chemistry experiment. Coke Zero is much better.

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wrenchwench  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:08:22pm

Perhaps McConnell should be concerned about the Mitch hunt rumored to be taking place in DC?

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Sir John Barron  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:09:35pm

re: #55 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!

I’m almost embarrassed for him.

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Teukka  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:09:54pm

re: #74 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Yeah, it tastes like mix of Coke and a chemistry experiment. Coke Zero is much better.

I’m biased towards the green label Coke myself, the few times I drink it.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:10:12pm

re: #75 wrenchwench

Perhaps McConnell should be concerned about the Mitch hunt rumored to be taking place in DC?

AHA!! You have outed yourself. Clearly typed on the same Selectric as the infamous “Normay” tweet.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:10:13pm

So, OT, but I finally got around to watching Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets and, well……meh.

But the opening scene?

Goddamn.

Valerian (2017): Incredible Opening Scene HD (Space Oddity - David bowie)

The rest of the movie is mediocre at best, but this opening scene I’d easily rank as one of the best I’ve ever seen. It actually got me a little choked up.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:10:37pm

re: #74 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Yeah, it tastes like mix of Coke and a chemistry experiment. Coke Zero is much better.

The only Coke worth drinking is Mexican Coke, with real cane sugar. Coke with HFCS is a meager substitute. Other Cokes are swill.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:12:02pm

re: #80 Blind Frog Belly White

The only Coke worth drinking is Mexican Coke, with real cane sugar. Coke with HFCS is a meager substitute. Other Cokes are swill.

“BFBW touts mexican coke.”

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makeitstop  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:12:33pm

re: #80 Blind Frog Belly White

The only Coke worth drinking is Mexican Coke, with real cane sugar. Coke with HFCS is a meager substitute. Other Cokes are swill.

Kosher Coke will work in a pinch. And every once in a while Coke does a limited run of cane sugar Coke in markets, but not often enough.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:13:45pm

re: #80 Blind Frog Belly White

BTW, as an aside, I read that the ORIGINAL Cuba Libre has a Coke: Rum ratio of about 2 or 3:1 v:v, rather than 6:1. That was a surprise, but then I realized Coke used to come in 6 oz bottles, not 12 oz cans. Now it makes perfect sense.

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DodgerFan1988  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:14:00pm

Richard Spencer’s cloned twin in the White House obstructing all attempts at immigration reform.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:14:15pm

re: #81 Decatur Deb

“BFBW touts mexican coke.”

But, you’ll note, not Colombian.

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makeitstop  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:14:34pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:15:41pm

re: #84 DodgerFan1988

I looked at that picture, and immediately thought,

“O-o-o-o-o-o-o-oklahoma, where the wind comes whistling down the plains!”

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:16:02pm

re: #77 Teukka

I’m biased towards the green label Coke myself, the few times I drink it.

I did not know green Coke existed.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:16:02pm

re: #85 Blind Frog Belly White

But, you’ll note, not Colombian.

Wut’s this ‘Colombian’? It’s all Mexico south of San Antonio.

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JordanRules  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:16:31pm

re: #71 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

Probably not a big deal because you are athletic and he’s not.

I used to be addicted to soda. The withdrawal sucked big time when I quit, but now all of it tastes way too sweet for me.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:17:00pm

re: #80 Blind Frog Belly White

The only Coke worth drinking is Mexican Coke, with real cane sugar. Coke with HFCS is a meager substitute. Other Cokes are swill.

I’m over 50, and drink a lot of Coke, so the sugar-water versions are not an option.

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Belafon  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:17:41pm

re: #84 DodgerFan1988

Richard Spencer’s cloned twin in the White House obstructing all attempts at immigration reform.

A clean DACA bill would get every Democrat on board.

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ObserverArt  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:18:12pm

Just ran out to stock up on some grocery items getting ready for bad weather this weekend.

It’s 55° out, sunny sky with some puffy clouds and very mild.

Truly the calm before the storm.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:18:55pm

re: #84 DodgerFan1988

Richard Spencer’s cloned twin in the White House obstructing all attempts at immigration reform.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:19:21pm

re: #91 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I’m over 50, and drink a lot of Coke, so the sugar-water versions are not an option.

Hey, it’s only 164 calories a can! You can work that off by walking…(googles cal/mi)…about a mile and a half!

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wrenchwench  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:19:27pm

re: #90 JordanRules

Probably not a big deal because you are athletic and he’s not.

I used to be addicted to soda. The withdrawal sucked big time when I quit, but now all of it tastes way too sweet for me.

And yet, no coffee? I still cannot comprehend…

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:21:00pm

re: #95 Blind Frog Belly White

Hey, it’s only 164 calories a can! You can work that off by walking…(googles cal/mi)…about a mile and a half!

I have about 6 bottles of Coke Zero a day. I don’t have the time to walk that off.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:21:33pm

re: #93 ObserverArt

Just ran out to stock up on some grocery items getting ready for bad weather this weekend.

It’s 55° out, sunny sky with some puffy clouds and very mild.

Truly the calm before the storm.

Include some rare comfort foods. Makes the storm more bearable.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:22:48pm

re: #97 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I have about 6 bottles of Coke Zero a day. I don’t have the time to walk that off.

Hey, that’s only 9 or 10 miles! You should be able to do that in only 3 1/2 hours!
Except then you’ll be so thirsty you’ll drink more….
/

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:25:31pm

Perhaps more appropriate would be “Ivared”, pronounced “I’ve A Red”.

You know. Because Russia.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:25:40pm

re: #93 ObserverArt

Just ran out to stock up on some grocery items getting ready for bad weather this weekend.

It’s 55° out, sunny sky with some puffy clouds and very mild.

Truly the calm before the storm.

65F here right now. Weekend is looking worse and worse.

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allegro  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:28:12pm

In the allegro cathouse news department… Sweet li’l Onyx had her “procedure” today and is doing fine, though still out of it. I can go get her at 4. :)

Maybe then her brother will stop wailing pitifully as he has been all day. TBH he’s been wailing for the both of us. I’m a mom. I worry.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:29:20pm

re: #100 Blind Frog Belly White

Perhaps more appropriate would be “Ivared”, pronounced “I’ve A Red”.

You know. Because Russia.

Why did this even emerge as an issue?

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Decatur Deb  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:30:29pm

re: #102 allegro

In the allegro cathouse news department…
.

Do we have a policy on clickbait?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:30:40pm

re: #103 Sir John Barron

Why did this even emerge as an issue?

Probably because this is what passes for a Slow News Day, anymore.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:30:59pm

re: #103 Sir John Barron

Why did this even emerge as an issue?

have to do something to avoid recognizing the Feinstein thing…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:34:00pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:35:18pm

My first new page in awhile is up:

The Case against Oprah Winfrey

Also, can someone tell me how I can get the photo to show up in the pages sidebar? Thanks in advance.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:37:18pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:37:35pm
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Old Liberal  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:38:32pm

re: #107 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Anyone who works should get a living wage. Period. Otherwise, “work” is a sham.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:38:35pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:39:05pm

oh…Norway has a thing called water.

apparently most people do not know that…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:39:30pm
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wrenchwench  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:40:04pm

re: #108 Eclectic Cyborg

My first new page in awhile is up:

The Case against Oprah Winfrey

Also, can someone tell me how I can get the photo to show up in the pages sidebar? Thanks in advance.

Maybe it has to do with this:

With regards to 20202…

/I have the real info saved somewhere. The answer will appear before I find it.

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sizzzzlerz  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:40:25pm

re: #87 Blind Frog Belly White

I looked at that picture, and immediately thought,

“O-o-o-o-o-o-o-oklahoma, where the wind comes whistling down the plains!”

In one ear, out the other.

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Belafon  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:40:31pm

re: #114 Backwoods_Sleuth

His mental acuity is becoming an issue in the press. Good.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:40:35pm

re: #71 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

So, please, I understand there are reasons to not want to drink Diet Coke

How about, it tastes like gasoline and ass. (not that I have ever tasted those actual things to compare it to…)

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Decatur Deb  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:40:55pm

re: #111 Old Liberal

Anyone who works should get a living wage. Period. Otherwise, “work” is a sham.

In real wages 15/hr/phased-in does not match the historical minimum wage. Fast food workers make less than their forerunners.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:41:02pm

jeebus, trump right now.
YIKES!

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:41:52pm

re: #104 Decatur Deb

Do we have a policy on clickbait?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:41:57pm

re: #80 Blind Frog Belly White

The only Coke worth drinking is Mexican Coke, with real cane sugar. Coke with HFCS is a meager substitute. Other Cokes are swill.

Kosher for Passover Coke is made with cane sugar. People line up outside the kosher bodega here and I know that most of them are not Jewish, let alone kosher observant.

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Kragar  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:42:08pm
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wrenchwench  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:42:30pm

re: #115 wrenchwench

Maybe it has to do with this:

/I have the real info saved somewhere. The answer will appear before I find it.

Top of the Favorites!

Click the pencil icon to edit your post, go into the Image Library, and click the “Featured” button for that image. Then Save Changes.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:43:34pm

re: #122 The Vicious Babushka

Kosher for Passover Coke is made with cane sugar. People line up outside the kosher bodega here and I know that most of them are not Jewish, let alone kosher observant.

Our supermarket carries Foxx’s U-Bet chocolate syrup under “ethnic foods”.

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Kragar  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:43:58pm

About that whole “Trump effect”…

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sizzzzlerz  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:44:10pm

re: #121 Anymouse 🌹

Do I detect just a hint of mint among the smells of fecal matter from large intestine?

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:45:19pm

re: #118 The Vicious Babushka

How about, it tastes like gasoline and ass. (not that I have ever tasted those actual things to compare it to…)

Well, geez, just so y’all know I consider beer to be a vile, undrinkable substance 🤣🤣

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Old Liberal  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:45:25pm

re: #119 Decatur Deb

In real wages 15/hr/phased-in does not match the historical minimum wage. Fast food workers make less than their forerunners.

Our wage laws and structures have been contorted so much by corporate/business interest. As we know, many of these businesses rely on access to food stamps, housing assistance, and other support for their “employees”. Walmart and McDonalds being two famous abusers. And anyone who thinks the only reason they are “robotic” is low wages doesn’t know how business operates. “Be slaves or be nothing” is the conservative slogan, not even “Work Makes Free”.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:46:02pm

re: #82 makeitstop

Kosher Coke will work in a pinch. And every once in a while Coke does a limited run of cane sugar Coke in markets, but not often enough.

Eurocoke is still with cane sugar

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:46:21pm

re: #113 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh…Norway has a thing called water.

apparently most people do not know that…

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:46:29pm

re: #121 Anymouse 🌹

Call me a purist, but farts should smell like farts.

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ObserverArt  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:46:35pm

re: #11 plansbandc

Better throw this one in again. After all, it is her thread. :D

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Well, if you can out that one up because it is Di’s thread, I’m going to put this one up again fresh outta Photoshop this morning because this thread also has to do with “IT” and the Republicans that protect this monster clown.

An even more scary clown!
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:46:53pm

re: #88 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I did not know green Coke existed.

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it is flavored with stevia, which is supposed to taste better than other artificial sweeteners, but I still do not like it at all.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:47:00pm

re: #130 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Eurocoke is still with cane sugar

Can you still get it in London?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:47:44pm

re: #91 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I’m over 50, and drink a lot of Coke, so the sugar-water versions are not an option.

I do not look on Coke as a beverage. It is a drug. One that I use when I have to stay awake when I am too sleepy and it is too late in the day for coffee. Great for driving home late at night on.

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Kragar  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:47:57pm

re: #129 Old Liberal

I keep seeing supposed “feel good” stories about how workers at a business band together and get one of their co-workers a car, and the big question I always have is WHY DOESN’T THE OWNER PAY THEM ENOUGH TO BUY A GOD DAMN CAR?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:49:53pm

re: #135 Decatur Deb

Can you still get it in London?

dunno, ain’t been there since Di’s funeral (really, we did not make an extra trip, just happened to be passing through on our way back from Scotland to Dover and since the rest of the fucking country was closed that day (only the motorway rest stations were open, we joined the crowd near Marble Arch.)

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wrenchwench  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:49:55pm

re: #137 Kragar

I keep seeing supposed “feel good” stories about how workers at a business band together and get one of their co-workers a car, and the big question I always have is WHY DOESN’T THE OWNER PAY THEM ENOUGH TO BUY A GOD DAMN CAR?

Maybe because the workers don’t band together and form a UNION.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:50:58pm

All these Republicans “retiring” aren’t doing it because the Trump ship is sinking. They’re doing it because they are now set for life because of their tax cuts. Let’s remenber this. To abandon a sinking ship would mean they know what they are doing is wrong/bad.

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ObserverArt  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:51:11pm

re: #16 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Patti Piatt is running for Tom Massie’s District 4 seat in the House.

Sleuth…I watched the Patti Piatt commercial and noticed there was no party identification in it. Is that the way you have to do things in Kentucky to get votes?

She is a Democrat right? I notice a lot of BlueWave hashtags…

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:51:18pm

re: #136 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I used to drink a 2 liter bottle of Coke a day. I had a hard time finding a diet soda substitute (because I always felt an aftertaste - diet Sprite was the worst), but settled on PA Dutch Diet Birch Beer. I drank that for about a year and didn’t lose an ounce. I drink Coke now but control portion size by using cans.
I eventually found a 0 calorie drink that I love - Powerade Zero, (the red kind). It’s a little more expensive than coke, but it tastes great.

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allegro  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:51:25pm

re: #136 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I do not look on Coke as a beverage. It is a drug. One that I use when I have to stay awake when I am too sleepy and it is too late in the day for coffee. Great for driving home late at night on.

I look at Coke as a mixer for rum. A little bit of Coke, a lot of rum. I don’t recall ever drinking plain Coke. I don’t think I’d like it that way. Horridly sweet like all soft drinks.

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sagehen  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:51:33pm

re: #137 Kragar

I keep seeing supposed “feel good” stories about how workers at a business band together and get one of their co-workers a car, and the big question I always have is WHY DOESN’T THE OWNER PAY THEM ENOUGH TO BUY A GOD DAMN CAR?

The one I found most infuriating was a picture of in a Wal-Mart break room there was a box for canned food donations “so our fellow associates can have a Thanksgiving dinner with their families”.

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Old Liberal  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:51:38pm

re: #131 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I remember seeing platforms in the North Sea off Normay, they must have been collecting famous Normegian water. They call it “Vann” which may be why no one knows about it.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:51:41pm

I drink La Croix but it is not the best flavored seltzer, that is Faygo IMO, and then Perrier. Also, all of the non-citrus flavors suck.

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sagehen  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:52:32pm

re: #140 GlutenFreeJesus

All these Republicans “retiring” aren’t doing it because the Trump ship is sinking. They’re doing it because they are now set for life because of their tax cuts. Let’s remenber this. To abandon a sinking ship would mean they know what they are doing is wrong/bad.

I’m sure the companies benefiting from those cuts have room on their payroll for a Congress-worth of well-paid no-show lobbying jobs.

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:53:45pm

re: #137 Kragar

We subsidize those low wages with public assistance.

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JordanRules  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:53:58pm

re: #140 GlutenFreeJesus

Most of them have been set for life and will get great opps for more money no matter when they retire.
They are cowards!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:54:23pm

re: #121 Anymouse 🌹

My problem is that in our new office space, I have switched from a standard office chair with a cushion seat, to a Herman Miller chair with mesh. I can no longer smother the sound of farts in the cushion. AND I now have people sitting right outside my office.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:54:57pm

re: #143 allegro

I look at Coke as a mixer for rum. A little bit of Coke, a lot of rum. I don’t recall ever drinking plain Coke. I don’t think I’d like it that way. Horridly sweet like all soft drinks.

that is the other use I have for it, but again, as a drug delivery vector.

I drink fruit tea with a shot of raspberry syrup in it

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ThomasLite  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:55:26pm

re: #138 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

dunno, ain’t been there since Di’s funeral (really, we did not make an extra trip, just happened to be passing through on our way back from Scotland to Dover and since the rest of the fucking country was closed that day (only the motorway rest stations were open, we joined the crowd near Marble Arch.)

In case it’s a genuine question and not a Brexit joke: yes UK coke is cane sugar based.
And given the response any time any soft drink (much less coca cola) changes formulation I wouldn’t expect that to change this side of WW3, pretty much.

Funny thing, I have all this apparently great coke available and I loathe the sugared stuff, much prefer the taste of both aspartame and some (but not all) of the more recent sweeteners. Thank dog as well; drinking the sugared stuff in any quantity regularly can’t be good for you any time after age 21 or so…

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Old Liberal  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:56:03pm

re: #139 wrenchwench

Maybe because the workers don’t band together and form a UNION.

Unions are for communists, don’tcha know. Here in Kentucky, the educational TV runs non-stop documentaries about the awful coal mine conditions in the last century, and how the miners stood up for themselves and were murdered by company mercenaries. Of course, since it is on public TV, the people who need to see it never do, instead they vote for Bevin who makes Medicaid work requirements and successfully brings in right to work for less. I have never seen such self-defeating people, aside from Wisconsin.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:57:03pm

re: #115 wrenchwench

Corrected. Thank you.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:57:54pm

re: #140 GlutenFreeJesus

All these Republicans “retiring” aren’t doing it because the Trump ship is sinking. They’re doing it because they are now set for life because of their tax cuts. Let’s remenber this. To abandon a sinking ship would mean they know what they are doing is wrong/bad.

I think it’s a combination of both actually.

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DodgerFan1988  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:57:55pm
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Decatur Deb  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:58:16pm

re: #150 Blind Frog Belly White

My problem is that in our new office space, I have switched from a standard office chair with a cushion seat, to a Herman Miller chair with mesh. I can no longer smother the sound of farts in the cushion. AND I now have people sitting right outside my office.

If that chair is metal mesh, you could rig a flourescent light ballast to provide a potential cross a couple layers, forming a simple “scubber”.

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JordanRules  Jan 10, 2018 • 12:58:35pm

re: #143 allegro

Pretty much the only time i have it too and like you said, the good ratio, not much of it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:00:20pm

re: #148 SteveMcGriftFlynnComey… …corruptemoligate RN

We subsidize those low wages with public assistance.

yes, I read that nearly every Wal-Mart costs the government nearly one million per year in food stamps and other low-wage subsidies for its workers.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:01:03pm

re: #153 Old Liberal

Unions are for communists, don’tcha know. Here in Kentucky, the educational TV runs non-stop documentaries about the awful coal mine conditions in the last century, and how the miners stood up for themselves and were murdered by company mercenaries. Of course, since it is on public TV, the people who need to see it never do, instead they vote for Bevin who makes Medicaid work requirements and successfully brings in right to work for less. I have never seen such self-defeating people, aside from Wisconsin.

Reminds me of a bit from Coconuts -

Bellhops: We want our wages!

Hammer: Wages? Do you want to be wage slaves? Answer me that!

Bellhops: No.

Hammer: No, of course not. But what makes wage slaves? Wages!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:01:29pm

re: #141 ObserverArt

Sleuth…I watched the Patti Piatt commercial and noticed there was no party identification in it. Is that the way you have to do things in Kentucky to get votes?

She is a Democrat right? I notice a lot of BlueWave hashtags…

yes, she’s a Democrat.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:01:52pm

re: #148 SteveMcGriftFlynnComey… …corruptemoligate RN

We subsidize those low wages with public assistance.

At the same time a very nice chunk of the Walmart grocery gross is SNAP.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:02:07pm

Another one bites the dust.

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wrenchwench  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:02:20pm

re: #153 Old Liberal

Unions are for communists, don’tcha know. Here in Kentucky, the educational TV runs non-stop documentaries about the awful coal mine conditions in the last century, and how the miners stood up for themselves and were murdered by company mercenaries. Of course, since it is on public TV, the people who need to see it never do, instead they vote for Bevin who makes Medicaid work requirements and successfully brings in right to work for less. I have never seen such self-defeating people, aside from Wisconsin.

I was born in Wisconsin. Wasn’t so bad, back then.

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ObserverArt  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:02:49pm

re: #41 makeitstop

The best thing about those Graham tweets is no matter what he says, the overwhelming majority of responses are some variant on ‘What is Trump blackmailing you with?’

I wonder what the ratio of damning emails, tweets, contact form messages, letters and phone calls are compared to anything positive Republicans are getting these days.

I have a feeling the percentage is hugely in favor of negative comments against.

May be one of the reasons so many Republican are leaving office.

I try to do my part.

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DodgerFan1988  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:05:24pm

F*ck these racist a*sholes!

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allegro  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:07:24pm

re: #158 JordanRules

Pretty much the only time i have it too and like you said, the good ratio, not much of it.

All this talk of rum and coke. My schedule is now pick up Onyx at 4. Liquor store run at 3:45. :P

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ObserverArt  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:08:33pm

re: #48 Sir John Barron

Who are the “many Democrats”?

Con man doesn’t realize he is being conned.

The Democrats have learned to keep everything they say neutral and not say too much about anything they are finding in the investigation and about Mueller, etc. ]

They are even playing nice with Trump to keep him calm. They go to his meetings and act like they can work with him.

They even say collusion and obstruction hasn’t been proven (yet).

Meanwhile in the back room I believe they are building a huge case against him and others.

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allegro  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:08:35pm

re: #157 Decatur Deb

If that chair is metal mesh, you could rig a flourescent light ballast to provide a potential cross a couple layers, forming a simple “scubber”.

A Fart Scrubber. It could be a thing. Waiting for that to appear on Shark Tank.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:08:46pm

re: #71 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

Myth: Diet Coke has intense amounts of caffeine, worse than coffee. For the record, an ounce of Diet Coke contains 4 mg of caffeine. Coffee has 3-7 times as much caffeine per ounce, from 12-30 mg.

For the record, I drink about three liters of Diet Coke a day

It’s not the caffeine, it’s the aspartame and other sugar substitutes.

Richard Hodin, a surgeon at Massachusetts General Hospital and the study’s senior author, explained, “Sugar substitutes like aspartame are designed to promote weight loss and decrease the incidence of metabolic syndrome, but a number of clinical and epidemiologic studies have suggested that these products don’t work very well and may actually make things worse.”

Dr. Hodin and his team found that the artificial sweetener inhibits intestinal alkaline phosphatase (IAP), which is a gut enzyme that researchers believe prevents obesity. So even though there’s no sugar in your diet beverage, it might not aid you in your weight loss journey.

To test out aspartame’s effect on IAP, researchers examined four groups of mice over a four-week period. Scientists fed two groups a high-fat diet—one received drinking water spiked with aspartame, while the other had plain water. The remaining two groups were fed normal diets—one with aspartame water, the other with plain. Mice drinking aspartame-spiked water consumed the equivalent of three and a half cans of diet soda per day.

Researchers found “while there was little difference between the weights of the two groups fed a normal diet, mice on a high-fat diet that received aspartame gained more weight than did those on the same diet that received plain water.” Furthermore, mice who received aspartame water had higher blood pressure and higher blood sugar levels, which researchers believe is evidence of a glucose intolerance. “Both aspartame-receiving groups had higher levels of the inflammatory protein TNF-alpha in their blood, which suggests the kind of systemic inflammation associated with metabolic syndrome,” Science Daily reported.

One recently discovered mechanism for this is that the receptors in your taste buds that register the sensation of sweetness are present in other parts of the body like the intestinal tract, where they trigger endocrine responses in your body. So just because you’re not getting all the extra calories from sugar doesn’t mean your body isn’t reacting in other ways like it has sugar in it.

I. Sweet taste receptors:
Sweet taste receptors in the enteroendocrine cells (cells that secrete hormones) of the gut and pancreas are suggested to play an important role in nutrient sensing and sugar absorption, both processes necessary for energy and maintaining a normal metabolism. When sweet taste receptors sense sugars, they elicit the release of gut hormones. One such hormone, glucagon-like peptide 1 (GLP-1), is responsible for facilitating the absorption of glucose into the bloodstream, enhancing insulin secretion in the pancreas and regulating appetite [4]. Disruptions in any of these physiological processes can result in the development of type II diabetes. In individuals with type II diabetes, the beta cells of the pancreas are able to produce insulin in response to meals, but at relatively lower levels than those normally demanded by the body. In type I diabetes, on the other hand, the beta cells of the pancreas can no longer produce insulin because they are destroyed by the body’s immune system. In a study aiming at quantifying the levels of sweet taste receptors in the upper gut of healthy and diabetic individuals, researchers observed that the levels of sweet taste receptors were diminished in diabetic type II subjects with elevated blood glucose concentrations [12]. This observation was consistent with previous results showing that type II diabetes patients secreted low levels of GLP-1 in response to a meal in comparison to healthy individuals [12]. Taken together, the decrease in sweet taste receptors and GLP-1 results in decreased sugar absorption from the bloodstream which contributes to type II diabetes.

In the pancreas, beta cells release insulin in response to elevated concentrations of glucose in the bloodstream. Unlike glucose, fructose, the sugar found in fruit, does not stimulate insulin secretion [2]. However, researchers recently found that fructose, when administered in concert with glucose to human and mice pancreatic beta cells, increased insulin release to levels higher than those observed when only glucose was used. The increase in insulin levels was mediated by the activation of sweet taste receptors in beta cells by fructose. Furthermore, inactivation of these receptors resulted in no release of insulin when exposed to fructose in the presence of glucose. Because excessive levels of insulin secretion have been implicated in the development of obesity and type II diabetes [2], sweet taste receptors in the pancreas are an attractive target for the treatment of these diseases. In conclusion, these studies strongly support an essential role for sweet taste receptors in maintaining an appropriate balance of glucose and insulin levels in the blood, and dysfunction of these proteins might hasten the development of type II diabetes.

What do we know about sweet taste receptors and artificial sweeteners? Sweet taste receptors in the gut and pancreas also “taste” artificial sweeteners, also known as non-nutritive sweeteners (NNS). While there is a general consensus on the contribution of regular sugars and sweet taste receptors in the release of gut and pancreas hormones, the effects reported for NNS, on the other hand, are at the center stage of much debate. Several research groups found that exposure of mouse cells to sucralose, the sweetener in Splenda, caused the release of GLP-1. Inactivation of the sweet taste receptors in these cells impaired the release of this hormone indicating that the effects of sucralose were mediated via its interaction with the receptors [7]. These findings, nevertheless, have been challenged by other research groups that did not observe hormone release in response to oral administration of sweeteners. Hence, whether NNS themselves trigger the release of hormones or not is yet to be elucidated. In the pancreas, NNS promote insulin secretion when administered in combination with glucose [9]. Since the body does not absorb NNS, a current hypothesis is that when NNS are taken in combination with glucose they might stimulate constant insulin secretion, which might lead to excess glucose being absorbed by the body. Rapid depletion of glucose from the blood might, in turn, hasten the development of obesity. Further research is needed to generate a more accurate conclusion on the effects of NNS in sugar metabolism and to determine whether these effects are primarily mediated by sweet taste receptors.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:11:26pm

the delusion is stunning

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:11:49pm

re: #153 Old Liberal

Unions are for communists, don’tcha know.

honest to god, they really believe that all we have to do is remove pesky government health, safety and environmental regulations and the good-paying jobs will come back….without unions.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:13:43pm

re: #166 DodgerFan1988

This is awesome news for children and adults everywhere who have dreamed of working for 7-Eleven, but couldn’t because the illegals had all the jobs.

— Lee Ann Lewman

Not sure whether this is snark or old fashioned dimwitted derp.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:13:46pm

good fucking grief

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wrenchwench  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:14:26pm

re: #170 goddamnedfrank

That’s a whole lot of information to digest. I think I’m full.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:14:49pm

re: #171 Backwoods_Sleuth

I want to thank my @Cabinet for working tirelessly on behalf of our country. 2017 was a year of monumental achievement and we look forward to the year ahead. Together, we are delivering results and MAKING AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

President Trump Holds a Cabinet Meeting

pic.twitter.com

— Donald J. Trump

Do you know what the Department of the Interior does? HUD? Do you know what HHS stands for?

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Belafon  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:15:54pm

re: #166 DodgerFan1988

I wonder how many they’ll actually net?

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JordanRules  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:16:04pm

re: #167 allegro

Onyx deserves a sip too!
Helps with recovery. ;)

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Old Liberal  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:16:06pm

re: #164 wrenchwench

I was born in Wisconsin. Wasn’t so bad, back then.

That’s my permanent residence. Racial madness has destroyed it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:16:44pm

re: #173 Sir John Barron

Not sure whether this is snark or old fashioned dimwitted derp.

delicious snark

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Decatur Deb  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:17:42pm

re: #169 allegro

A Fart Scrubber. It could be a thing. Waiting for that to appear on Shark Tank.

One way or another, it will eliminate that Stale Fart Smell.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:18:38pm

re: #162 Decatur Deb

At the same time a very nice chunk of the Walmart grocery gross is SNAP.

A fair gross of military commissary’s gross is also SNAP, from retirees, disabled veterans, and low-ranked enlisted personnel.

Pro-military party (GOP) my salt-encrusted hide.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:19:10pm

re: #143 allegro

I look at Coke as a mixer for rum. A little bit of Coke, a lot of rum. I don’t recall ever drinking plain Coke. I don’t think I’d like it that way. Horridly sweet like all soft drinks.

I used to drink Coke ten years ago, then my genetic tendency towards hypertension kicked into high gear and I had to start watching my sodium intake. Now all sodas just taste ridiculously over sweet to me, and I’ve always thought the aftertaste of diet drinks was just horrid. So I mostly just drink water.

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allegro  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:19:24pm

re: #178 JordanRules

Onyx deserves a sip too!
Helps with recovery. ;)

She’s more into white wine. A nice Riesling. She is a Princess yanno.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:19:42pm

re: #175 wrenchwench

That’s a whole lot of information to digest. I think I’m full.

Shit’s complicated yo.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:19:55pm

heh

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Decatur Deb  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:20:21pm

re: #174 Backwoods_Sleuth

good fucking grief

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He used to be an asshole, and now he’s becoming a caricature of an asshole.

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JordanRules  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:20:31pm

re: #177 Belafon

Last figure I saw was 98 stores, 21 arrests.

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wrenchwench  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:20:33pm

re: #185 goddamnedfrank

Shit’s complicated yo.

That’s taking the digestion a little too far.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:20:45pm

re: #166 DodgerFan1988

F*ck these racist a*sholes!

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You’d think if they were actually interested in so-called “illegal immigrants” (a civil offence), they would actually raid the corporations themselves (hiring undocumented immigrants is a felony).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:21:27pm

re: #186 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:21:43pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:23:38pm

re: #189 wrenchwench

That’s taking the digestion a little too far.

If it becomes a problem I can’t recommend Benefiber or the Kirkland brand Optifiber highly enough.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:25:20pm

re: #193 goddamnedfrank

If it becomes a problem I can’t recommend Benefiber or the Kirkland brand Optifiber highly enough.

Seriously, my butt is doing amazing now thanks for asking!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:25:20pm
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wrenchwench  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:25:57pm

re: #193 goddamnedfrank

If it becomes a problem I can’t recommend Benefiber or the Kirkland brand Optifiber highly enough.

I put flax seed meal in my brownies and pancakes. I’m all set. Or not too set. Or something.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:25:57pm

re: #170 goddamnedfrank

Well, anecdotes aren’t evidence, but I only weigh 115# and drank aspertame sodas for a long time (after a Navy dentist told me sugar soda and Kool-aid was ruining my teeth).

My former mother-in-law (a registered nurse) tried to claim aspertame was the cause of my epilepsy, though I didn’t start drinking diet soda until after I’d developed epilepsy.

I guess aspertame can time-travel.

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JordanRules  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:26:02pm

It’s that weird time of day on FNC!

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Sir John Barron  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:26:04pm

re: #174 Backwoods_Sleuth

good fucking grief

Also sent letter of congratulations to Trumpy for the very successful, bipartisan and SMART bipartisan conference in WH yesterday about immigration and DACA and the other thing.

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Mike Lamb  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:27:25pm

re: #191 Backwoods_Sleuth

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My nearly 4 year old does the exact same thing when I turn off the TV.

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Belafon  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:27:38pm

re: #198 JordanRules

It’s that weird time of day on FNC!

The Shepard Smith Hour. Definitely its own little zone.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:27:54pm

re: #186 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh

One of my better follows is Simon

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makeitstop  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:29:15pm

re: #198 JordanRules

It’s that weird time of day on FNC!

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As Fox News regular viewers call it, ‘The Fake News Hour.’

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:29:44pm

Khzir Khan steps up to the plate:

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DodgerFan1988  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:29:46pm

re: #173 Sir John Barron

Not sure whether this is snark or old fashioned dimwitted derp.

I missed the irony of her statement. Her Twitter page shows She’s actually Anti-Trump. My apologies for including her tweet with the rest of the racist ones.

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wrenchwench  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:30:52pm

I’m still working on my 7/11-Icee joke. But they have Slurpies, right? Or was it Slushies? Can I make a cops/donuts joke when the cops are Federal?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:31:03pm

re: #204 Anymouse 🌹

Khzir Khan steps up to the plate:

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Already has. He supported Periello first here and then Northam. Khzir Khan and his family are what America is all about.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:31:29pm

re: #206 wrenchwench

I’m still working on my 7/11-Icee joke. But they have Slurpies, right? Or was it Slushies? Can I make a cops/donuts joke when the cops are Federal?

Slurpees.

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John Carter  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:32:02pm

re: #134 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

it is flavored with stevia, which is supposed to taste better than other artificial sweeteners, but I still do not like it at all.

Stevia is technically not an artificial sweetener. It is a plant extract that is sweet like sugar (well, sort of) but is metabolized like a carbohydrate.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:32:27pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:33:05pm

re: #209 John Carter

Stevia is technically not an artificial sweetener. It is a plant extract that is sweet like sugar (well, sort of) but is metabolized like a carbohydrate.

whatever it is, it still leave a sticky taste in my throat, I do not find it refreshing.

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darthstar  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:34:55pm

Gotta love the way that PM handled Trump at the presser today. First, touting green energy and Tesla (which made Trump shudder), then after he went off on drill baby drill said, “There are lots of economic opportunities in green energy…you should not pass them up.” or something to that effect.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:35:21pm

I drink only distilled water, or rain water, and only pure-grain alcohol.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:35:29pm

re: #209 John Carter

Stevia is technically not an artificial sweetener. It is a plant extract that is sweet like sugar (well, sort of) but is metabolized like a carbohydrate.

I’ve read the stevia ingredient labels on packages in the stores. Every single one of them has sugar listed as an ingredient; sometimes sugar is the first one listed ahead of actual stevia.

I raise a few stevia plants and they are extremely sweet. One leaf goes a long way.

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wrenchwench  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:36:17pm

re: #208 HappyWarrior

Slurpees.

Thanks. Jordan’s figures of 98 stores, 21 arrests, is donut level enforcement.

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Belafon  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:38:17pm

re: #215 wrenchwench

Thanks. Jordan’s figures of 98 stores, 21 arrests, is donut level enforcement.

So, one arrest for every four stores hit. At that rate, it’ll damage SS before it makes a dent in illegal immigration.

And it don’t mean a thing if Trump isn’t going to punish the company.

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Kragar  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:38:20pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:38:31pm

We need to come up with some basic mathematical rules for what can constitute a valid electoral district. The first one that comes to mind that would address obvious abuses like this is to set a maximum ratio for circumference (ie total combined length of the district’s border in km) divided by the area in square km. The ideal ratio would be that of a circle or π [ C / (2 π ) ]**2 = A. So we set some realistic multiple of that we can attain while also having every district contain the same amount of constituents +/- something like 2% and let a computer crunch it down to a best fit.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:40:45pm

re: #218 goddamnedfrank

We need to come up with some basic mathematical rules for what can constitutes a valid electoral district. The first one that comes to mind that would address obvious abuses like this is to set a maximum ratio for circumference (ie total combined length of the district’s border in km) divided by the area in square km. The idea ratio would be that of a circle or π [ C / (2 π ) ]2 = A. So we set some realistic multiple of that that can be attainted while also having every district contain the same amount of constituents +/- something like 2% and let a computer crunk it down to a best fit.

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Something needs to be done.

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freetoken  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:40:53pm

re: #218 goddamnedfrank

… to set a maximum ratio for circumference (ie total combined length of the district’s border in km) divided by the area in square km.

Better hope that the GOP don’t discover fractal districting.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:42:16pm

re: #215 wrenchwench

Thanks. Jordan’s figures of 98 stores, 21 arrests, is donut level enforcement.

upding for “donut level enforcement”

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Decatur Deb  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:42:21pm

re: #218 goddamnedfrank

We need to come up with some basic mathematical rules for what can constitutes a valid electoral district. The first one that comes to mind that would address obvious abuses like this is to set a maximum ratio for circumference (ie total combined length of the district’s border in km) divided by the area in square km. The idea ratio would be that of a circle or π [ C / (2 π ) ]2 = A. So we set some realistic multiple of that we can attained while also having every district contain the same amount of constituents +/- something like 2% and let a computer crunk it down to a best fit.

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A non-partisan GIS mapping group has already offered algorithms to generate closest-neighbor neutral maps. No takers.

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John Carter  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:45:11pm

re: #211 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

whatever it is, it still leave a sticky taste in my throat, I do not find it refreshing.

I’m not a big fan of it either, especially in things like coffee. I actually think it is not bad in oatmeal.

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freetoken  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:45:14pm

Note that US Senators are not districted (other than the obvious state boundaries.)

And yet the US Senate will have been controlled by Republicans for 8 years.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:45:36pm

re: #218 goddamnedfrank

We need to come up with some basic mathematical rules for what can constitutes a valid electoral district. The first one that comes to mind that would address obvious abuses like this is to set a maximum ratio for circumference (ie total combined length of the district’s border in km) divided by the area in square km. The idea ratio would be that of a circle or π [ C / (2 π ) ]**2 = A. So we set some realistic multiple of that we can attain while also having every district contain the same amount of constituents +/- something like 2% and let a computer crunch it down to a best fit.

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Other rules should be that borders can only follow along things like named streets, natural riverbeds and ridge lines. Also districts must be contiguous with special rules put in place to make sure that islands and exclaves like Point Roberts, WA have equal representation.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:45:49pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:47:24pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:47:27pm

re: #224 freetoken

Note that US Senators are not districted (other than the obvious state boundaries.)

And yes the US Senate will have been controlled by Republicans for 8 years.

Yeah the Senate needs to die honestly. Also the number of constituents per Rep in the House should automatically equal the population of the least populous US State.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:49:23pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:49:26pm

Germany gets around voting district issues by having two parallel systems. People have two votes to cast.

Half the ministers of parliament are elected directly as in America, but the other half is determined by percent of the overall vote: the share of votes that a party receives determines the number of people they can then pick off a list of candidates that they offer.

Germany also has a much larger parliament for its population than the USA: 631 for a population only about 1/4 the population.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:50:24pm

re: #226 Backwoods_Sleuth

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This is the first time I’ve been glad I’m not living there anymore.

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freetoken  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:51:07pm

re: #228 goddamnedfrank

A nation of 330 million needs a House of Representatives more finely graded than the current setup.

I’ve for some time thought that the Senate should be done away with. Just have the governors of all 50 States become a Board of Governors for the US, and have the various oversight agencies report to them on only the biggest stuff, and have said Board be the court for impeachments for the highest office.

Then, make the House bigger - grow it by the 100 seats gone from the Senate. A 535 seat House means fewer constituents per seat. Require House districts to be made by non-partisan boards.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:53:04pm
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freetoken  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:54:15pm

What so many Americans don’t want to face is that our current Federal governance system is way out of date.

And it embodies the genocidal theory that created the US as we know it today. Namely, kill off or run off the natives, take their land, call it a “state” and give it two Senators to be part of the old boy club that runs the government that did the killing-off and running-off to begin with.

What I just wrote may sound radical, but it is a capsulated summary of how at least half of our 50 states came to be.

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MsJ  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:54:52pm

re: #134 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

it is flavored with stevia, which is supposed to taste better than other artificial sweeteners, but I still do not like it at all.

Stevia is GROSS. Spenda I like but Stevia tastes like those mint farts. Blech.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:55:04pm

because THAT will certainly stop kids from messing around…
O_o

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:57:34pm

re: #232 freetoken

A nation of 330 million needs a House of Representatives more finely graded than the current setup.

I’ve for some time thought that the Senate should be done away with. Just have the governors of all 50 States become a Board of Governors for the US, and have the various oversight agencies report to them on only the biggest stuff, and have said Board be the court for impeachments for the highest office.

Then, make the House bigger - grow it by the 100 seats gone from the Senate. A 535 seat House means fewer constituents per seat. Require House districts to be made by non-partisan boards.

A board of Governors is really no better than having two Senators per State in that it’s highly disenfranchising to people in populous states. It would be better to set a second election where the entire country ranks their picks for the already elected House and the ones who get the most votes are promoted to oversight and leadership committee positions.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:57:35pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:58:14pm

re: #238 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yewsh.

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gwangung  Jan 10, 2018 • 1:59:57pm

re: #236 Backwoods_Sleuth

because THAT will certainly stop kids from messing around…
O_o

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Political correctness and Soviet-style management at its finest.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:00:26pm

re: #238 Backwoods_Sleuth

He needs the radio controlled collar not Hillary.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:01:10pm

re: #241 PhillyPretzel

Radio-controlled dick puncher, you mean.

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freetoken  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:01:22pm

re: #237 goddamnedfrank

But in my proposal, the Board of Governors don’t do much. They just oversee things. They don’t make laws, they don’t write bills. The new House is the only true legislative body.

Said Board simply sit in judgement in things like impeachments, or settles disputes between branches of the government.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:01:35pm

yes…

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:01:44pm

re: #242 The Ghost of a Flea

yes.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:02:11pm

re: #232 freetoken

I’ve for some time thought that the Senate should be done away with. Just have the governors of all 50 States become a Board of Governors for the US, and have the various oversight agencies report to them on only the biggest stuff, and have said Board be the court for impeachments for the highest office.

That is a bit like what the German Upper House, the Bundesrat, is. Each state sends its governor, secretary of state and whomever else the state legislature selects (the number varies, based on population) and their job is only to vote on legislation sent to it from the lower house, not initiate it.

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ObserverArt  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:02:55pm

re: #196 wrenchwench

I put flax seed meal in my brownies and pancakes. I’m all set. Or not too set. Or something.

I put it in meatballs as it does help as a binder. I sprinkle some on my salad from time to time. I try to sneak it into as much stuff as I can without it being too obvious or heavy to affect taste.

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DodgerFan1988  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:03:50pm

“Anchor Babies” is a loaded term for the Right to attack Latino-Americans by saying they’re not real citizens just because they are born here in America. Their biggest crime is that they exist.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:04:57pm

re: #248 DodgerFan1988

“Anchor Babies” is a loaded term for the Right to attack Latino-Americans by saying they’re not real citizens just because they are born here in America. Their biggest crime is that they exist.

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I hate the anchor baby slur.

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ObserverArt  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:05:30pm

re: #206 wrenchwench

I’m still working on my 7/11-Icee joke. But they have Slurpies, right? Or was it Slushies? Can I make a cops/donuts joke when the cops are Federal?

Badge = Donuts.

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Old Liberal  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:06:05pm

re: #236 Backwoods_Sleuth

because THAT will certainly stop kids from messing around…
O_o

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Problem solved. Brilliant!!!!//

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:06:47pm

re: #245 PhillyPretzel

It’s on my “to do” list, right after the satellite-mounted vasectomy laser.

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Old Liberal  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:08:10pm

IMHO, religion is what poisons Kentucky more than anything else.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:08:33pm
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ObserverArt  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:09:10pm

re: #218 goddamnedfrank

We need to come up with some basic mathematical rules for what can constitutes a valid electoral district. The first one that comes to mind that would address obvious abuses like this is to set a maximum ratio for circumference (ie total combined length of the district’s border in km) divided by the area in square km. The ideal ratio would be that of a circle or π [ C / (2 π ) ]**2 = A. So we set some realistic multiple of that we can attain while also having every district contain the same amount of constituents +/- something like 2% and let a computer crunch it down to a best fit.

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I’d make districts reset every 10 years based on voting records and set the computer up to draw out zones that are close to 50-50 as possible with no district to be lower than 60-40. Take the party in control at the time out of it all and let it be based on voters.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:11:02pm

meanwhile at the electronics show…

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Old Liberal  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:12:18pm

re: #255 ObserverArt

I’d make districts reset every 10 years based on voting records and set the computer up to draw out zones that are close to 50-50 as possible with no district to be lower than 60-40. Take the party in control at the time out of it all and let it be based on voters.

What if we did ranked voting so that we could have more than two viable parties? The W. administration used a parliamentary constitution for Iraq, I assume they recognized the problems with a two-party system.

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darthstar  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:13:19pm
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ObserverArt  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:13:25pm

re: #2 KGxvi

Hey, Donny, hate to break it to you but they’re not laughing with you, they’re laughing at you.

Feinstein, for all her faults, isn’t going to just release a transcript of classified testimony. There was no real valid reason for the hearing to have been behind closed doors to begin with - the people testifying were not government employees who had access to classified information. And “oh we needed to keep it private so we could get other witnesses to testify” is bullshit, you have fucking subpoena powers, assholes.

I heard yesterday Grassley and the Republicans have no way to claim they were classified after Fusion GPS released a good portion of the contents to the media through tweets and articles. Also Glen Simson from Fusion GPS wanted them released so they can’t claim they are protecting the witness.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:14:31pm

re: #259 ObserverArt

I heard yesterday Grassley and the Republicans have no way to claim they were classified after Fusion GPS released a good portion of the contents to the media through tweets and articles. Also Glen Simson from Fusion GPS wanted them released so they can’t claim they are protecting the witness.

Probably illegal to release! Sneaky!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:18:25pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:19:05pm

re: #248 DodgerFan1988

“Anchor Babies” is a loaded term for the Right to attack Latino-Americans by saying they’re not real citizens just because they are born here in America. Their biggest crime is that they exist.

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And Steve King rails on about “anchor grandchildren” (the grandchildren of so-called illegal immigrants) wanting to deport people like me.

So-called “serial immigration” is another racist dogwhistle.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:19:24pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:20:43pm

re: #261 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Oh.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:21:46pm

re: #255 ObserverArt

I’d make districts reset every 10 years based on voting records and set the computer up to draw out zones that are close to 50-50 as possible with no district to be lower than 60-40. Take the party in control at the time out of it all and let it be based on voters.

Districts are supposed to reflect the total populace, whether they are eligible to vote (registered voters) or no (children, non-registered adults, certain prisoners in jails, &c).

Basing on “voting percentages” is awfully difficult considering a person could vote one party this time round and another in the next. Moreover, in states where voters are overwhelmingly registered for one party would make that 60-40 split difficult.

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Old Liberal  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:22:10pm

re: #262 Anymouse 🌹

And Steve King rails on about “anchor grandchildren” (the grandchildren of so-called illegal immigrants) wanting to deport people like me.

So-called “serial immigration” is another racist dogwhistle.

The conservative party is racists all the way down.

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:22:14pm

re: #35 darthstar

Trump isn’t exactly what I would call a Constitutional expert sentient being.

FTFY.

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makeitstop  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:22:57pm

Nunes has got that traitor stink on him.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:23:13pm

re: #259 ObserverArt

I heard yesterday Grassley and the Republicans have no way to claim they were classified after Fusion GPS released a good portion of the contents to the media through tweets and articles. Also Glen Simson from Fusion GPS wanted them released so they can’t claim they are protecting the witness.

Moreover, the opening of the transcript says the meeting will be unclassified, and if Fusion GPS had any classified information to share with the committee, they could all go into an executive session.

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calochortus  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:23:16pm

I have just become aware of a tree known as the Caucasian Wingnut. My day is complete.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:23:35pm

re: #256 Backwoods_Sleuth

meanwhile at the electronics show…

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darthstar  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:24:44pm

re: #268 makeitstop

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Nunes has got that traitor stink on him.

Exactly.

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ObserverArt  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:25:35pm

re: #263 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He looks more than a little like Mohammed Ali.

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:26:27pm

re: #60 allegro

Up is down in GOP world.

And black is white.

Which is why I think it likely they get run over at the next zebra crossing.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:29:15pm

re: #234 freetoken

What so many Americans don’t want to face is that our current Federal governance system is way out of date.

And it embodies the genocidal theory that created the US as we know it today. Namely, kill off or run off the natives, take their land, call it a “state” and give it two Senators to be part of the old boy club that runs the government that did the killing-off and running-off to begin with.

What I just wrote may sound radical, but it is a capsulated summary of how at least half of our 50 states came to be.

For administrative purposes the Fed Government is divided into 11(12) regions based largely on geography. That reflects a lot of study done in the 60s to see how to effectively manage distance and span-of-control with XX Cent technology. We need about a dozen superstates with the ability to flex them.

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dangerman  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:29:16pm

currently, because i dont want to die in a nuclear war:

YouTube

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darthstar  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:29:42pm

Fuck linking that woman.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:29:44pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:31:08pm

Well, at least for now we’re not going to torch a war in Korea with VP Pence and Ivanka Trump in Seoul.

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petesh  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:32:50pm

re: #190 Anymouse 🌹

You’d think if they were actually interested in so-called “illegal immigrants” (a civil offence), they would actually raid the corporations themselves (hiring undocumented immigrants is a felony).

The sky plane caught fire over Los Gatos Canyon,
A fireball of lightning, and shook all our hills,
Who are all these friends, all scattered like dry leaves?
The radio says, “They are just deportees”

Is this the best way we can grow our big orchards?
Is this the best way we can grow our good fruit?
To fall like dry leaves to rot on my topsoil
And be called by no name except “deportees”?

— Woody Guthrie, 1948

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:33:18pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:34:19pm

re: #275 Decatur Deb

My state capital is too far away already. If I had to go to the “High Plains State Capital” I really don’t want to be stuck with a trip to someplace in Idaho, Montana, or New Mexico.

People in Wyoming who live in the NW of the state have legitimate complaints about having to travel to their state capital in Cheyenne (in the SE near Nebraska).

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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:34:52pm

re: #281 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Shocking that a network that belittles women would have this happen.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:37:07pm

re: #209 John Carter

Stevia is technically not an artificial sweetener. It is a plant extract that is sweet like sugar (well, sort of) but is metabolized like a carbohydrate.

Stevia rebaudiana is a plant, that would be Stevia. The crushed leaves are a dietary supplement in this country. Technically, you can’t add the leaves to a food. It would be an unapproved food additive.

Companies now are adding the glycoside extract from the plant, a sweet carbohydrate that is low caloric, Rebaudioside R, where R is a letter designating the sidechain moiety, typically A, D, M, but there are isolates going A to Z and more. The various glycosides, depending on side chains, have different flavor or lack there of, and as such, different uses in food.

And, technically, aspartame, acesulfame K, sucralose, saccharine, etc., are called high intensity sweeteners and not artificial.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:37:07pm

re: #263 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Seriously thought that was young Ali.

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DodgerFan1988  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:37:47pm

re: #262 Anymouse 🌹

And Steve King rails on about “anchor grandchildren” (the grandchildren of so-called illegal immigrants) wanting to deport people like me.

So-called “serial immigration” is another racist dogwhistle.

Michelle Malkin, Laura Ingraham, Tucker Carlson, and other conservative pundits made it no secret that they see tens of millions of Latino Americans as “illegals” because maybe their grandparents or great grandparents migrated here with documentation. And they have the gall to accuse liberals of playing identity politics.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:38:06pm

re: #282 Anymouse 🌹

My state capital is too far away already. If I had to go to the “High Plains State Capital” I really don’t want to be stuck with a trip to someplace in Idaho, Montana, or New Mexico.

People in Wyoming who live in the NW of the state have legitimate complaints about having to travel to their state capital in Cheyenne (in the SE near Nebraska).

Organize counties so that very few people ever have to move their molecules to the state capital. I can think of only one time I ever had to go to a state capital, to examine some old aerial photos.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:39:38pm

re: #286 DodgerFan1988

Michelle Malkin, Laura Ingraham, Tucker Carlson, and other Conservative pundits made it no secret that they see tens of millions of Latino Americans as “illegals” because maybe their grandparents or great grandparents migrated here with documentation. And they have the gall to accuse liberals of playing identity politics.

I’m not Latino but I’m in the same boat if Federalist Society and Heritage Foundation handpicked justices decide the XIV Amendment doesn’t really apply. I’m still in the same boat.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:40:35pm

re: #286 DodgerFan1988

Michelle Malkin, Laura Ingraham, Tucker Carlson, and other conservative pundits made it no secret that they see tens of millions of Latino Americans as “illegals” because maybe their grandparents or great grandparents migrated here with documentation. And they have the gall to accuse liberals of playing identity politics.

My favorite was when Tomi Lehren’s ancestor was revealed to violated immigration law.

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wrenchwench  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:42:50pm

re: #280 petesh

The sky plane caught fire over Los Gatos Canyon,
A fireball of lightning, and shook all our hills,
Who are all these friends, all scattered like dry leaves?
The radio says, “They are just deportees”

Is this the best way we can grow our big orchards?
Is this the best way we can grow our good fruit?
To fall like dry leaves to rot on my topsoil
And be called by no name except “deportees”?

— Woody Guthrie, 1948

I did a Page on that.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:43:08pm

You know you’re getting old when you open your county newspaper to the “Days Gone By” column and you see your name there. Stick a fork in me, I’m done.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:43:21pm

re: #238 Backwoods_Sleuth

He’s a very funny writer, but …

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ObserverArt  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:43:28pm

re: #288 Anymouse 🌹

I’m not Latino but I’m in the same boat if Federalist Society and Heritage Foundation handpicked justices decide the XIV Amendment doesn’t really apply. I’m still in the same boat.

‘mouse…look in the mirror. I think you are of the proper “color” to not get booted out.

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wrenchwench  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:45:43pm

re: #291 Anymouse 🌹

You know you’re getting old when you open your county newspaper to the “Days Gone By” column and you see your name there. Stick a fork in me, I’m done.

Not until you reach the Obituary page.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:45:45pm

re: #293 ObserverArt

‘mouse…look in the mirror. I think you are of the proper “color” to not get booted out.

Not sure. a) Family fled Nazis. We have Nazis in our government now.
b) My skin colour is quite olive. I have told to my face I’m “not white.”
c) I look like my mother (I’m almost a dead-ringer except for not having the same bits). That must disqualify me too.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:48:02pm

re: #248 DodgerFan1988

“Anchor Babies” is a loaded term for the Right to attack Latino-Americans by saying they’re not real citizens just because they are born here in America. Their biggest crime is that they exist.

I have to admit that I favor changing the Constitution so that birthright citizenship is only granted to people born here to citizens or legal residents, not just anyone born here.

But again, that should be part of a packet of comprehensive immigration reform. And there are too many conflicting interest groups to allow that to happen.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:49:26pm

re: #295 Anymouse 🌹

I am not completely sure about this but if one parent is an American then off spring is no matter what country they are born in. Also if you served in the armed forces active duty then you are a citizen. Check with an immigration attorney.

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Skip Intro  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:49:37pm

re: #210 Backwoods_Sleuth

Well it only took them a year to figure that out. I wonder what tipped them off?

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:49:46pm
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:49:54pm

re: #274 Romantic Heretic

And black is white.

Which is why I think it likely they get run over at the next zebra crossing.

Infinite updings for the Hitchhiker’s reference.

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wrenchwench  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:50:00pm

re: #296 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I have to admit that I favor changing the Constitution so that birthright citizenship is only granted to people born here to citizens or legal residents, not just anyone born here.

But again, that should be part of a packet of comprehensive immigration reform. And there are too many conflicting interest groups to allow that to happen.

That one will always earn a downding from me. Sorry, but not very.

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Skip Intro  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:50:53pm

re: #226 Backwoods_Sleuth

I hope you realize that’s a half million dollar home stuck in that tree.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:51:17pm

re: #297 PhillyPretzel

I am not completely sure about this but if one parent is an American then off spring is no matter what country they are born in. Also if you served in the armed forces active duty then you are a citizen. Check with an immigration attorney.

I have a Michigan birth certificate (that has the “white” box checked back from the days when states still did that) so for the moment I am safe. Service in the Armed Forces does not guarantee citizenship (see all the deported vets in Tijuana).

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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:51:23pm

I think birthright citizenship has worked. It makes people adopt this country as their own. My mom’s older aunts and uncles were born before their parents got naturalized. We should be trying to make naturalization easier not difficult.

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petesh  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:51:41pm

re: #270 calochortus

I have just become aware of a tree known as the Caucasian Wingnut. My day is complete.

Mine too!

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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:52:12pm

re: #299 Anymouse 🌹

[Embedded content]

It’s bullshit. Carlson just can’t help accept he’s a political minority.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:52:37pm

re: #303 Anymouse 🌹

That is why I said check with an immigration attorney.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:52:45pm

re: #296 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I have to admit that I favor changing the Constitution so that birthright citizenship is only granted to people born here to citizens or legal residents, not just anyone born here.

But again, that should be part of a packet of comprehensive immigration reform. And there are too many conflicting interest groups to allow that to happen.

Should I move out now, or wait for that change? Many countries have birthright citizenship; wingnut talking points to the contrary.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:53:19pm

Randomness, “Stuttering John” Melendez is running against Senator Dianne Feinstein in the 2018 California Senate race.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:54:04pm

re: #280 petesh

The sky plane caught fire over Los Gatos Canyon,
A fireball of lightning, and shook all our hills,
Who are all these friends, all scattered like dry leaves?
The radio says, “They are just deportees”

Is this the best way we can grow our big orchards?
Is this the best way we can grow our good fruit?
To fall like dry leaves to rot on my topsoil
And be called by no name except “deportees”?

— Woody Guthrie, 1948

Arlo teacher Woody good. We need more of any like both of them.

311
Skip Intro  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:54:19pm

re: #248 DodgerFan1988

“Anchor Babies” is a loaded term for the Right to attack Latino-Americans by saying they’re not real citizens just because they are born here in America. Their biggest crime is that they exist.

[Embedded content]

According to NBC, they pay upwards of $100,000 for the privilege of coming to Florida and staying in Trump’s properties.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:55:44pm

re: #301 wrenchwench

That one will always earn a downding from me. Sorry, but not very.

fine. I support comprehensive immigration reform

unfortunately, that quickly breaks down into cries of “deport them all” and “build a wall”

but true reform would involve a lot of things that people will never accept, like a universal ID card for all citizens and legal residents. It can be as simple as issuing photo SS cards in one version for citizens and another for residents.
It would involve reforming labor laws.
And it would necessarily involve an amnesty for people who have live here, obeyed the law and paid their taxes.
It would involve controlling our borders. A wall is not an answer in itself, some physical restrictions might be needed, but the main restrictions should be legal and administrative.

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TedStriker  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:56:27pm

re: #310 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Arlo teacher Woody good. We need more of any like both of them.

More like Woody taught Arlo well.

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calochortus  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:56:42pm

re: #311 Skip Intro

According to NBC, they pay upwards of $100,000 for the privilege of coming to Florida and staying in Trump’s properties.

Wealthy Chinese moms-to-be go to LA. Central Americans/Mexicans of lesser financial means try to spend some time visiting relatives in the US close to their due date. Not new, and not, IMHO, a huge issue for the US.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:57:46pm

re: #308 Anymouse 🌹

Should I move out now, or wait for that change? Many countries have birthright citizenship; wingnut talking points to the contrary.

Other countries have mandatory ID for all citizens and legal residents: they are needed to register a car, sign a lease or an employment contract, enroll a child in school, apply for social services and are accepted ID for voting.

In a word, they are an administrative “wall” that can be gotten around, but only with great difficulty.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:57:51pm

re: #313 TedStriker

More like Woody taught Arlo well.

Arlo had the grace to admit he was not the progressive voice of his generation, bowing towards Dylan.

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petesh  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:58:19pm

re: #290 wrenchwench

I did a Page on that.

Thank you!

On a quick look, Woody’s own version seems not to be on YouTube, though several are, including Bob and Joanie:

Deportee

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makeitstop  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:58:24pm

re: #309 Shropshire Slasher

Randomness, “Stuttering John” Melendez is running against Senator Dianne Feinstein in the 2018 California Senate race.

That mook? I knew him way before he went to work for Stern.

Kid can barely read. Real talk.

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wrenchwench  Jan 10, 2018 • 3:00:34pm

re: #312 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

fine. I support comprehensive immigration reform

unfortunately, that quickly breaks down into cries of “deport them all” and “build a wall”

but true reform would involve a lot of things that people will never accept, like a universal ID card for all citizens and legal residents. It can be as simple as issuing photo SS cards in one version for citizens and another for residents.
It would involve reforming labor laws.
And it would necessarily involve an amnesty for people who have live here, obeyed the law and paid their taxes.
It would involve controlling our borders. A wall is not an answer in itself, some physical restrictions might be needed, but the main restrictions should be legal and administrative.

The end of birthright citizenship is one of my nightmares, like the Arpaio pardon. Could happen, but I will always be against it.

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piratedan  Jan 10, 2018 • 3:07:07pm

re: #236 Backwoods_Sleuth

if only it could also be applied to Kentucky legislators…..


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