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JordanRules  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:55:06pm

I need sassy Twitler right now cause my word I can’t even…

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:55:18pm
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JordanRules  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:56:51pm

re: #2 Ace-o-aces

Call Mueller, Steve!

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TedStriker  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:57:46pm

re: #2 Ace-o-aces

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:58:42pm

Again, Imagine Obama being caught on film like that.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 10, 2018 • 2:59:21pm

Carried over from the last thread:

re: #312 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

fine. I support comprehensive immigration reform

unfortunately, that quickly breaks down into cries of “deport them all” and “build a wall”

but true reform would involve a lot of things that people will never accept, like a universal ID card for all citizens and legal residents. It can be as simple as issuing photo SS cards in one version for citizens and another for residents.
It would involve reforming labor laws.
And it would necessarily involve an amnesty for people who have live here, obeyed the law and paid their taxes.
It would involve controlling our borders. A wall is not an answer in itself, some physical restrictions might be needed, but the main restrictions should be legal and administrative.

It degenerates into “deport them all” because that’s what conservatives want to do.

Do you think for a second if I had my citizenship stripped I would be allowed to stay (or draw my VA disability compensation)? I would become a stateless person in an instant with no rights (because Poland wouldn’t take me either).

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petesh  Jan 10, 2018 • 3:01:11pm

Reposted from the bottom of the last thread, just because:

Deportee

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 10, 2018 • 3:01:37pm

From dead thread to point out my embarrassment…

re: #313 TedStriker

More like Woody taught Arlo well.

**blush**

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TedStriker  Jan 10, 2018 • 3:03:15pm

re: #8 Colère Tueur de Lapin

From dead thread to point out my embarrassment…

**blush**

Whoops…

/

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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2018 • 3:04:08pm

Back to birthright citizenship, I think without it, you’d see some of the problems France has had. If I’ll give our nation credit, we do a good job integrating immigrants. I see it all the time. They are entrepreneurs, doctors, lawyers, serve in the military, etc.

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wrenchwench  Jan 10, 2018 • 3:06:47pm

re: #7 petesh

Reposted from the bottom of the last thread, just because:

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Video

This goes with that:

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From here.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 10, 2018 • 3:06:48pm

Rosanne Connor Does Not Deserve What Rosanne Barr Is about to Do to Her (goes to Wonkette, by Robin Pennacchia)

More at the link on reconning Rosanne Connor into Archie Bunker:

About five years ago, Roseanne Barr blocked me on Twitter.

She was accusing Lindy West of advocating “censorship of comedy” over her criticism of certain kinds of rape jokes, and I tweeted this at her in response:

Image of tweet and more article follows

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petesh  Jan 10, 2018 • 3:08:33pm

re: #11 wrenchwench

This goes with that:

From here.

Thank you again! And everyone, please follow the link.

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Skip Intro  Jan 10, 2018 • 3:09:09pm

re: #10 HappyWarrior

Back to birthright citizenship, I think without it, you’d see some of the problems France has had. If I’ll give our nation credit, we do a good job integrating immigrants. I see it all the time. They are entrepreneurs, doctors, lawyers, serve in the military, etc.

What do you think of businesses who sell travel packages to pregnant mothers solely for the purpose of giving birth so their kid gets an American passport?

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jaunte  Jan 10, 2018 • 3:09:10pm
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calochortus  Jan 10, 2018 • 3:12:04pm

re: #14 Skip Intro

What do you think of businesses who sell travel packages to pregnant mothers solely for the purpose of giving birth so their kid gets an American passport?

I’m not HW, but I can’t say I care for it. That said, it’s a pretty small number of babies involved, and I think not enough of an issue to try to crack down because of the ‘collateral damage’ of limiting birthright citizenship.

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plansbandc  Jan 10, 2018 • 3:13:11pm

re: #12 Anymouse 🌹

Exactly. Highly disappointing and wrong for her character. I will not be watching.

It’s a commercial for the orange bag.

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petesh  Jan 10, 2018 • 3:14:33pm

re: #14 Skip Intro

What do you think of businesses who sell travel packages to pregnant mothers solely for the purpose of giving birth so their kid gets an American passport?

1. They are exploiters who should be ashamed of themselves.
2. I don’t know about law, but airlines can reasonably be wary of carrying passengers who are close to term.
3. Let’s not promote wing nut talking points. This is not a major contribution to immigration, it just isn’t a big enough problem to rant and rave about. Yes, it probably happens. Deal with it.

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scottslemmons  Jan 10, 2018 • 3:14:58pm

re: #12 Anymouse 🌹

Rosanne Connor Does Not Deserve What Rosanne Barr Is about to Do to Her (goes to Wonkette, by Robin Pennacchia)

More at the link on reconning Rosanne Connor into Archie Bunker:

Ya know, I could see ways to do that sort of story really well. God knows we all know people who used to be normal and have now turned into deranged Trumpers. You could do a great story examining how people get driven crazy by Fox News bullshit and support policies that hurt them. But Roseanne Barr is not the person who’s going to be able to create that story.

I feel sorry for John Goodman. I hope the paycheck is good for him, at least.

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Skip Intro  Jan 10, 2018 • 3:17:28pm

re: #16 calochortus

Birth tourism brings Russian baby boom to Miami

Roman Bokeria, the state director of the Florida Association of Realtors told NBC News that Trump- branded buildings in the Sunny Isles Beach area north of Miami are particularly popular with the Russian birth tourists and Russian immigrants.

“Sunny Isles beach has a nickname — Little Russia — because people who are moving from Russian-speaking countries to America, they want … a familiar environment.”

“They go across the street, they have Russian market, Russian doctor, Russian lawyer,” he added. “It’s very comfortable for them.”

Reshetova came to Miami to have her first child, hiring an agency to help arrange her trip. The services — which can include finding apartments and doctors and obtaining visas — don’t come cheap. She expects to pay close to $50,000, and some packages run as high as $100,000. Bokeria says some landlords ask for six months rent up front.

nbcnews.com

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Skip Intro  Jan 10, 2018 • 3:18:28pm

re: #18 petesh

Since this isn’t Free Republic yet I’ll talk about what I choose to.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 10, 2018 • 3:20:11pm

re: #14 Skip Intro

What do you think of businesses who sell travel packages to pregnant mothers solely for the purpose of giving birth so their kid gets an American passport?

That particular activity is illegal (gaming the legal system to obtain citizenship). See also contract marriages for the same purpose.

Heaven forfend the government go after corporations which break immigration and citizenship laws.

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petesh  Jan 10, 2018 • 3:20:14pm

re: #21 Skip Intro

Since this isn’t Free Republic yet I’ll talk about what I choose to.

Never said you couldn’t. Just said, it ain’t happening. (And in MY view, shouldn’t.)

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calochortus  Jan 10, 2018 • 3:20:16pm

re: #20 Skip Intro

Yes, but that-even combined with the number of Chinese birth tourists-isn’t a very large percentage of US births.
IMHO birthright citizenship is a good thing. YMMV.

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Skip Intro  Jan 10, 2018 • 3:24:03pm

re: #24 calochortus

This is actually fraud by businesses outside of the US because they get their clients to lie about their reasons for visiting here. I don’t know what the US can do about it though.

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calochortus  Jan 10, 2018 • 3:26:22pm

re: #25 Skip Intro

This is actually fraud by businesses outside of the US because they get their clients to lie about their reasons for visiting here. I don’t know what the US can do about it though.

Yes, it is fraud, but I’m not sure what you are arguing here. I don’t support it. If the companies can be shut down, that would be fine with me.
I am concerned that it might be used as an excuse to narrow birthright citizenship.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 10, 2018 • 3:30:10pm

Talking about racism is the real racism.
rawstory.com

African-American student who took on the issue of being yelled at with racial epithets and nooses hung around the school was publicly shamed by a teacher and dressed down by the superintendent of schools.

The issue only started to change when a video of the Sacramento area school went viral.

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Skip Intro  Jan 10, 2018 • 3:30:14pm

re: #26 calochortus

Yes, it is fraud, but I’m not sure what you are arguing here. I don’t support it. If the companies can be shut down, that would be fine with me.
I am concerned that it might be used as an excuse to narrow birthright citizenship.

Not as long as they stay at Trump properties.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 10, 2018 • 3:31:06pm

re: #25 Skip Intro

This is actually fraud by businesses outside of the US because they get their clients to lie about their reasons for visiting here. I don’t know what the US can do about it though.

They can be banned from selling tickets or travel packages to the USA. The USA puts sanctions on businesses that do illegal things all the time.

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calochortus  Jan 10, 2018 • 3:31:58pm

re: #28 Skip Intro

Not as long as they stay at Trump properties.

There is that…

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Skip Intro  Jan 10, 2018 • 3:32:08pm

And now, back to Trump.

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allegro  Jan 10, 2018 • 3:35:22pm

When Trump does meet face to face in an interview (or Grand Jury) with Mueller he will need to wear Depends. Mueller will terrify him.

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allegro  Jan 10, 2018 • 3:37:59pm

The Princess is home, had a good dinner and I have my whole little family here with me snuggling on the bed. And there is rum and coke. Life is good.

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calochortus  Jan 10, 2018 • 3:38:52pm

This is petty of me, but has anyone else noticed how awful Trump looks (and yes, I realize I could stop here) with those yellow/gold curtains in the East Room behind him? They don’t play well with his orange face.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 10, 2018 • 3:39:55pm

re: #32 allegro

When Trump does meet face to face in an interview (or Grand Jury) with Mueller he will need to wear Depends. Mueller will terrify him.

Fuck, even Mueller’s underlings, ie. regular agents will terrify him.

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calochortus  Jan 10, 2018 • 3:40:24pm

re: #35 Stanley Sea

Fuck, even Mueller’s underlings, ie. regular agents will terrify him.

And I’m OK with that.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 10, 2018 • 3:41:11pm
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Skip Intro  Jan 10, 2018 • 3:41:21pm

re: #34 calochortus

When did he start hugging himself? That can’t be a good sign.

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allegro  Jan 10, 2018 • 3:42:34pm

re: #37 Anymouse 🌹

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I only regret that some of those cheeses do not sit in front of me right now.

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calochortus  Jan 10, 2018 • 3:42:38pm

re: #38 Skip Intro

When did he start hugging himself? That can’t be a good sign.

Can you say “defensive posture?” Whether it’s a good sign or not depends on your point of view.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 10, 2018 • 3:43:41pm

re: #38 Skip Intro

When did he start hugging himself? That can’t be a good sign.

Isn’t that a tell for general defensiveness, akin to arm crossing?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2018 • 3:44:17pm

re: #37 Anymouse 🌹

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What is the most French headline ever?

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Jan 10, 2018 • 3:44:30pm

re: #35 Stanley Sea

I know somebody who’s on the case. Two takeaway (because this person cannot say anything). Trump is no match for what he’s up against, and most of the stuff they find will never see the light of day. The first is pretty obvious, the second, well, that’s the way it’s gonna be. Someday somebody will spill the beans, kind of like the book Hunt For Red October spilled some things that people weren’t supposed to talk about years later. (I know a guy who was in the know and was so pissed when that stuff came out because he kept his mouth shut like a good boy for years.)

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 10, 2018 • 3:44:39pm

re: #39 allegro

I only regret that some of those cheeses do not sit in front of me right now.

Those are probably 50 kilo wheels or such…

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allegro  Jan 10, 2018 • 3:45:39pm

re: #44 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Those are probably 50 kilo wheels or such…

And the problem is?

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 10, 2018 • 3:46:30pm

Trump sells out tickets to Graft-a-Lago for a celebration party for the first anniversary of his inauguration (holy crap, we’re a quarter way through already, maybe we can survive this).
politico.com

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Skip Intro  Jan 10, 2018 • 3:46:31pm

re: #40 calochortus

Apparently it started to be noticed back in August 2017 and his gotten more pronounced recently.

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Jan 10, 2018 • 3:46:34pm

re: #44 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Are they gonna roll one down a hill and have people chase it?

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ckkatz  Jan 10, 2018 • 3:46:34pm

re: #10 HappyWarrior

If I’ll give our nation credit, we do a good job integrating immigrants. I see it all the time. They are entrepreneurs, doctors, lawyers, serve in the military, etc.

This!

The US is bringing in many well educated and successful immigrants, that originating countries spent large amounts of their resources to educate and train. We are fact getting the creme of the outside world here. Plus we often send back the unsuccessful back to their originating country.

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allegro  Jan 10, 2018 • 3:47:03pm

Jeez now I’m craving brie, bananas, and Wheat Thins. Heaven.

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calochortus  Jan 10, 2018 • 3:47:11pm

re: #47 Skip Intro

Apparently it started to be noticed back in August 2017 and his gotten more pronounced recently.

Seems about right. I’ve noticed it for several months.

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Jan 10, 2018 • 3:47:34pm

re: #46 Anymouse 🌹

Wait until year 4, when it becomes obvious to even him that he is a lame duck.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 10, 2018 • 3:47:40pm

re: #20 Skip Intro

Baby Bust: Feds Raid California ‘Maternity Hotels’

Southern California apartment complexes that doubled as “maternity hotels” for Chinese women who want made-in-America babies were raided early Tuesday, capping an unprecedented federal sting operation, officials said.

NBC News was on the scene as Homeland Security agents swept into The Carlyle, a luxury property in Irvine, California, which housed pregnant women and new moms who allegedly forked over $40,000 to $80,000 to give birth in the United States.

“I am doing this for the education of the next generation,” one of the women told NBC News.

The phenomenon of foreigners coming to the U.S. to have babies is not new but appears to be growing. One study found that 40,000 children a year are born to women here on a travel visa, the affidavit notes.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 10, 2018 • 3:49:11pm

re: #45 allegro

And the problem is?

Yeah, I’d make room.

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calochortus  Jan 10, 2018 • 3:49:11pm

re: #52 SteveMcGriftFlynnComey… …corruptemoligate RN

Wait until year 4, when it becomes obvious to even him that he is a lame duck.

Year 4? YEAR 4???? I’m hoping he’ll be out around Year 2.

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Jan 10, 2018 • 3:49:51pm

re: #55 calochortus

What’s the point? President Pence, President Ryan,…

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The Major  Jan 10, 2018 • 3:50:02pm

re: #53 Shropshire Slasher

Between this and the wealthy using Bitcoin to spirit their wealth away from China, this should not be surprising at all…

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scottslemmons  Jan 10, 2018 • 3:50:08pm

re: #46 Anymouse 🌹

Trump sells out tickets to Graft-a-Lago for a celebration party for the first anniversary of his inauguration (holy crap, we’re a quarter way through already, maybe we can survive this).
politico.com

You mean one-eighth.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 10, 2018 • 3:50:14pm

re: #50 allegro

Jeez now I’m craving brie, bananas, and Wheat Thins. Heaven.

All together?

I would of course try it, if you gave it to me.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 10, 2018 • 3:51:42pm

re: #45 allegro

And the problem is?

Not a problem. More like where do you put it after you hack it open?

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calochortus  Jan 10, 2018 • 3:51:51pm

re: #56 SteveMcGriftFlynnComey… …corruptemoligate RN

What’s the point? President Pence, President Ryan,…

I think they’d start out pretty damaged. Besides, I want to see Trump widely and publicly shamed (if not jailed.) Bonus points for other family members and close associates being in jail.

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Skip Intro  Jan 10, 2018 • 3:52:14pm

Still no word on whether Trump will accept Paul Ryan’s invitation to perform the SOTU show Jan. 30.

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Skip Intro  Jan 10, 2018 • 3:53:07pm

re: #61 calochortus

It would be the compassionate thing to do to lock them all up with him to keep him company.

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calochortus  Jan 10, 2018 • 3:54:24pm

re: #63 Skip Intro

It would be the compassionate thing to do to lock them all up with him to keep him company.

What a great opportunity for a reality show!

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 10, 2018 • 3:54:31pm

re: #53 Shropshire Slasher

Number of births: 3,978,497 (2015, CDC)
cdc.gov

0.55%

It’s a good thing that the investigation busted the criminal business that propagated this.

And what study was cited? I don’t see mention of that in the article at MSN.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 10, 2018 • 3:55:18pm

re: #62 Skip Intro

Still no word on whether Trump will accept Paul Ryan’s invitation to perform the SOTU show Jan. 30.

Quickly read that as “…whether Trump will accept Paul Ryan’s invitation to STFU…”

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wrenchwench  Jan 10, 2018 • 3:56:45pm

re: #53 Shropshire Slasher

Baby Bust: Feds Raid California ‘Maternity Hotels’

From that :

The phenomenon of foreigners coming to the U.S. to have babies is not new but appears to be growing. One study found that 40,000 children a year are born to women here on a travel visa, the affidavit notes.

From Skip’s link on the previous thread:

There is no official data on birth tourism in the United States. The Center for Immigration Studies, which wants stricter limits on immigration, estimates there are 36,000 babies born in the U.S. to foreign nationals a year, though the numbers could be substantially lower

Snide remark(s) deleted.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 10, 2018 • 3:56:59pm

Hey Allegro, I have an idea for your menagerie

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Skip Intro  Jan 10, 2018 • 3:57:51pm

re: #64 calochortus

What a great opportunity for a reality show!

Trumps Behind Bars! It would be a ratings knockout!

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calochortus  Jan 10, 2018 • 3:59:23pm

re: #69 Skip Intro

Maybe someone can sell the idea to Trump? “People will love to see you in from jail!”

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calochortus  Jan 10, 2018 • 4:00:28pm

OK, must go do something constructive.
Laterz.

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danarchy  Jan 10, 2018 • 4:00:57pm

re: #68 Stanley Sea

Hey Allegro, I have an idea for your menagerie

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Sure until those kittens get a little older and one day you are late with lunch. Then all of a sudden it’s “has anyone seen duckie…anyone?”

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 10, 2018 • 4:01:02pm

re: #67 wrenchwench

Nothing new, from 2013 usatoday.com

Chinese tourist traffic to the islands in the first seven months of this year already matched arrivals for all of 2012, with the figure for July alone rising 49% to 11,177. Overall births in the Northern Marianas have been falling, but the Marianas Variety newspaper reports that births to ethnic Chinese rose 175% between 2010 and 2012 and last year outnumbered those of any other ethnicity.

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ckkatz  Jan 10, 2018 • 4:01:11pm

re: #67 wrenchwench

I’ve not thought through the concept of “fairness” or ‘exploitation’ fully yet.

But, one thought is that the Russian (and Chinese) mothers are among the wealthiest and most powerful in their countries. Giving them more personal interest in the well-being of the US sounds like a good thing to me.

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Skip Intro  Jan 10, 2018 • 4:01:49pm

re: #70 calochortus

He could get an EMMY. He’s always been pissed off that The Apprentice never got one. Here’s his big chance.

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Skip Intro  Jan 10, 2018 • 4:06:22pm

Trump’s EPA Could Allow Teenage Workers To Handle Dangerous Pesticides

Officials have signaled they may eliminate the age requirements for working with toxic chemicals on farms and other worksites.

huffingtonpost.com

This is YUUGEE. It could change the GOP’s deportation plans.

Even the Nazis eventually figured out that slave labor was more profitable than just executing their prisoners.

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Skip Intro  Jan 10, 2018 • 4:08:02pm

re: #74 ckkatz

I’ve not thought through the concept of “fairness” or ‘exploitation’ fully yet.

But, one thought is that the Russian (and Chinese) mothers are among the wealthiest and most powerful in their countries. Giving them more personal interest in the well-being of the US sounds like a good thing to me.

I guess the next generation of oligarchs has to come from somewhere.

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freetoken  Jan 10, 2018 • 4:15:42pm

re: #76 Skip Intro

Sadly, many of our fellow Americans are not going to care about this.

Trump is, perhaps more than anything else, a result of apathy among the contemporary electorate.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 10, 2018 • 4:20:13pm

re: #58 scottslemmons

You mean one-eighth.

Really looking at this as a one-and-done presidency.

Crap the weather just turned awful here: fog, rain, sleet, snow, freezing on the streets. I just went over to the village hall and driving my little car was like trying to use bent ice skates.

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allegro  Jan 10, 2018 • 4:21:05pm

re: #59 Shropshire Slasher

All together?

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I would of course try it, if you gave it to me.

Oh yes. Seriously. A shmear of brie on a wheat thin topped with a thin slice of banana. The little bit salty cheese, little bit sweet banana, crunchy wheat thin. Nom.

Heh. As I was writing that a friend/neighbor stopped by to see Onyx. She brought me queso and chips! What timing!

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ckkatz  Jan 10, 2018 • 4:21:08pm

re: #77 Skip Intro

I guess the next generation of oligarchs has to come from somewhere.

You certainly raise an interesting question. (And you get points from me for the way you put it.) I certainly do not claim to have the answers.

Would it be fair to re-phrase it a bit?

“Should the next generation of world leaders be American citizens?”

I was going to say ‘American’. But I find that a very loaded phrase.

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allegro  Jan 10, 2018 • 4:21:46pm

re: #60 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Not a problem. More like where do you put it after you hack it open?

In mah belly!

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 10, 2018 • 4:23:19pm

re: #67 wrenchwench

From that :

From Skip’s link on the previous thread:

Snide remark(s) deleted.

Let’s see, where have I heard the name “Center for Immigration Studies” before? … .

Oh yes, extreme racist John Tanton’s group.

splcenter.org

As for the total number of people born on visas in the USA cited by the CDC, that would include those here as legal residents, those who Trump is trying to deport now (political refugees), those who weren’t planning so-called “birth tourism” and happened to be here at the time for whatever reasons… .

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BeachDem  Jan 10, 2018 • 4:25:36pm

re: #46 Anymouse 🌹

Trump sells out tickets to Graft-a-Lago for a celebration party for the first anniversary of his inauguration (holy crap, we’re a quarter way through already, maybe we can survive this).
politico.com

And true to form:

The campaign text message does mistakenly say in one place that the dinner will happen in “Palm Springs”, rather than Palm Beach.

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BeachDem  Jan 10, 2018 • 4:27:42pm

re: #50 allegro

Jeez now I’m craving brie, bananas, and Wheat Thins. Heaven.

Because I’m too lazy to make it myself, I frequently treat myself to Fresh Market’s take and bake apricot brie en croute with toasted almonds. OMG—heavenly.

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JordanRules  Jan 10, 2018 • 4:28:45pm

re: #81 ckkatz

I hope the next generation of leaders is not predominated by super elite families.

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Skip Intro  Jan 10, 2018 • 4:29:13pm

re: #81 ckkatz

Buying American citizenship is just wrong to me, but I guess we’ll allow anything if the money is good.

Come here without papers and give birth and we’ll throw your worthless ass out of here. Come here without papers but lots of money and give birth and it’s “Hello, there, new citizen!”

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allegro  Jan 10, 2018 • 4:33:46pm

re: #85 BeachDem

Because I’m too lazy to make it myself, I frequently treat myself to Fresh Market’s take and bake apricot brie en croute with toasted almonds. OMG—heavenly.

You are a cruel woman. I drool. It’s fortunate I have queso or I would be on my way to your house right now to take you forcibly to get me some of that.

Feeling that rum and coke. LOL

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 10, 2018 • 4:33:47pm
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BeachDem  Jan 10, 2018 • 4:34:24pm

re: #68 Stanley Sea

Hey Allegro, I have an idea for your menagerie

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MAKE WAY FOR DUCKLINGS!!

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ObserverArt  Jan 10, 2018 • 4:35:35pm

re: #21 Skip Intro

Since this isn’t Free Republic yet I’ll talk about what I choose to.

I note the “yet.”

Are you concerned LGF is going to become a conservative site?

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allegro  Jan 10, 2018 • 4:39:48pm

re: #90 BeachDem

MAKE WAY FOR DUCKLINGS!!

This is actually a dangerous subject. A duckling I brought home one day when I was about 8 years old damn near caused my parents to get a divorce. Not even lying. My mom left with suitcases for 3 days. Wouldn’t come home until my dad chose between her and the duck. Yeah, it took him 3 days. LOL

In 44 years of marriage, ‘til death do we part, the only real fight I ever heard them have.

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ObserverArt  Jan 10, 2018 • 4:41:42pm

re: #32 allegro

When Trump does meet face to face in an interview (or Grand Jury) with Mueller he will need to wear Depends. Mueller will terrify him.

Tonight Ari Melber had a lawyer on that actually deposed Trump. She said he likes to intimidate and get mean with lawyers and many have cowered when he does that. She said she handled him fine, but he bitched about how unfair she was and used his normal tactics of calling it a scam, blah, blah, blah.

I get the feeling Mueller is not one to be intimidated and if Trumps tries Mueller will really get down to tearing him apart.

Oh to be a fly on the wall (with a teeny tiny camera).

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Skip Intro  Jan 10, 2018 • 4:41:50pm

re: #91 ObserverArt

No, I’m concerned that it’s going to become a “agree with us or else” site. Not that Charles would do anything like that, but peer pressure would. It would be unfortunate for that to happen because this site is still the most open one I’m aware of.

Maybe it’s just because I did post at FR for a while and saw the mob mentality drive off the few people there who had a difference of opinion from the conventional wisdom there.

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allegro  Jan 10, 2018 • 4:45:44pm

re: #93 ObserverArt

Tonight Ari Melber had a lawyer on that actually deposed Trump. She said he likes to intimidate and get mean with lawyers and many have cowered when he does that. She said she handled him fine, but he bitched about how unfair she was and used his normal tactics of calling it a scam, blah, blah, blah.

I get the feeling Mueller is not one to be intimidated and if Trumps tries Mueller will really get down to tearing him apart.

Oh to be a fly on the wall (with a teeny tiny camera).

And Mueller will never raise his voice or lose an iota of composure.

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Charmingly Persistent  Jan 10, 2018 • 4:47:15pm

re: #87 Skip Intro

Buying American citizenship is just wrong to me, but I guess we’ll allow anything if the money is good.

Come here without papers and give birth and we’ll throw your worthless ass out of here. Come here without papers but lots of money and give birth and it’s “Hello, there, new citizen!”

On the contrary. Any baby who manages to get born here is a citizen. Messing with birthright citizenship, whatever the motive, will certainly end up hitting the poor from the “wrong” countries. Leave it alone, I say.

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MsJ  Jan 10, 2018 • 4:47:27pm

re: #94 Skip Intro

No, I’m concerned that it’s going to become a “agree with us or else” site. Not that Charles would do anything like that, but peer pressure would. It would be unfortunate for that to happen because this site is still the most open one I’m aware of.

Maybe it’s just because I did post at FR for a while and saw the mob mentality drive off the few people there who had a difference of opinion from the conventional wisdom there.

Differences of opinion is one thing. I’ve only seen it once and it was over bullshit, lies and dropping turds and quickly leaving.

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ckkatz  Jan 10, 2018 • 4:49:33pm

re: #86 JordanRules

I hope the next generation of leaders is not predominated by super elite families.

Yes, I share your hope there. And I think that I agree with Skip Intro’s concerns regarding the meanings of citizenship and of basic fairness. Certainly a lot to think about.

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ObserverArt  Jan 10, 2018 • 4:50:45pm

re: #87 Skip Intro

Buying American citizenship is just wrong to me, but I guess we’ll allow anything if the money is good.

Come here without papers and give birth and we’ll throw your worthless ass out of here. Come here without papers but lots of money and give birth and it’s “Hello, there, new citizen!”

The difference between Democrats and Republicans? Money!

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Skip Intro  Jan 10, 2018 • 4:52:32pm

re: #99 ObserverArt

Well, even Steve King has never called the offspring of birth tourists “anchor babies”, so yeah, it is a Rep vs Dem thing and money has everything to do with it.

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Unabogie  Jan 10, 2018 • 4:52:42pm

re: #14 Skip Intro

What do you think of businesses who sell travel packages to pregnant mothers solely for the purpose of giving birth so their kid gets an American passport?

I think immigrants are the lifeblood of a thriving society, so I welcome those kids with open arms. You?

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JordanRules  Jan 10, 2018 • 4:54:20pm

re: #98 ckkatz

Yup. I’m definitely thinking my way through it too.

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ObserverArt  Jan 10, 2018 • 4:54:30pm

re: #94 Skip Intro

No, I’m concerned that it’s going to become a “agree with us or else” site. Not that Charles would do anything like that, but peer pressure would. It would be unfortunate for that to happen because this site is still the most open one I’m aware of.

Maybe it’s just because I did post at FR for a while and saw the mob mentality drive off the few people there who had a difference of opinion from the conventional wisdom there.

I think the “debate” over things like Oprah and Doom ‘n’ Gloom tells you there is still plenty of back and forth without agree-with-the-majority thinking.

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Skip Intro  Jan 10, 2018 • 4:56:08pm

re: #101 Unabogie

I think being able to buy your offspring citizenship is a scam. What makes these people more worthy of citizenship than the child of an immigrant from the third world?

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Skip Intro  Jan 10, 2018 • 4:59:46pm

re: #103 ObserverArt

The “Doom and Gloom” thing does bother me because I think that’s just s slam on people - like me - who see political things differently.

I could very well be wrong but there doesn’t appear to be as many posters here as there was a couple of years ago. I don’t know if they all left because they didn’t feel welcome but I’m sure some did (and I’m not talking about the obvious trolls).

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ObserverArt  Jan 10, 2018 • 5:00:17pm

I’ve been in Photoshop mood today.

I got to thinking about Lindsey Graham and his seemingly mixed up approach to, well, everything. He’s all over the place.

So it lead to this…

Scrambled Eggs and Graham
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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 10, 2018 • 5:01:11pm

re: #104 Skip Intro

I think being able to buy your offspring citizenship is a scam. What makes these people more worthy of citizenship than the child of an immigrant from the third world?

Any company or person who engages in promoting so-called birth tourism is engaging in a felony. Those are the people who should be arrested and tried, such as the case in California today.

It is not illegal to come to the United States even if you are heavily pregnant. Even if you think you might give birth whilst you’re here.

It is illegal to promote that for the purposes of gaming citizenship in the same way it is illegal to promote marriages to game citizenship.

It is the promoter who should be jailed.

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gocart mozart  Jan 10, 2018 • 5:01:19pm

I like this version better

This looks pretty good.

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Skip Intro  Jan 10, 2018 • 5:01:54pm

re: #106 ObserverArt

Somebody else was too.

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ObserverArt  Jan 10, 2018 • 5:02:12pm

re: #105 Skip Intro

The “Doom and Gloom” thing does bother me because I think that’s just s slam on people - like me - who see political things differently.

I could very well be wrong but there doesn’t appear to be as many posters here as there was a couple of years ago. I don’t know if they all left because they didn’t feel welcome but I’m sure some did (and I’m not talking about the obvious trolls).

Well, it does seem the election of Trump had an effect on LGF. Not sure why, but that is how it feels.

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Skip Intro  Jan 10, 2018 • 5:02:31pm

re: #107 Anymouse 🌹

No argument from me.

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BeachDem  Jan 10, 2018 • 5:02:41pm

re: #92 allegro

This is actually a dangerous subject. A duckling I brought home one day when I was about 8 years old damn near caused my parents to get a divorce. Not even lying. My mom left with suitcases for 3 days. Wouldn’t come home until my dad chose between her and the duck. Yeah, it took him 3 days. LOL

In 44 years of marriage, ‘til death do we part, the only real fight I ever heard them have.

Sorry—didn’t mean to bring back bad memories. I was merely recollecting my favorite book from childhood in Boston

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Stanley Sea  Jan 10, 2018 • 5:03:29pm

re: #88 allegro

You are a cruel woman. I drool. It’s fortunate I have queso or I would be on my way to your house right now to take you forcibly to get me some of that.

Feeling that rum and coke. LOL

I might head out for brie.

Seriously.

Sounds so yum right now.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 10, 2018 • 5:05:58pm

re: #92 allegro

This is actually a dangerous subject. A duckling I brought home one day when I was about 8 years old damn near caused my parents to get a divorce. Not even lying. My mom left with suitcases for 3 days. Wouldn’t come home until my dad chose between her and the duck. Yeah, it took him 3 days. LOL

In 44 years of marriage, ‘til death do we part, the only real fight I ever heard them have.

Wow.

(Anymouse turns to wife: Would you rather have me or a baby duck? Mrs. Anymouse … let me think about that for three days and I’ll get back to you… .)

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The Major  Jan 10, 2018 • 5:08:47pm

re: #106 ObserverArt

Except when it comes to Obama and how, as Miss Lindsey stated on a recent BBS HARDtalk, was such a divisive presence….

FUCK YOU, Lindsey….

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danarchy  Jan 10, 2018 • 5:09:17pm

re: #105 Skip Intro

The “Doom and Gloom” thing does bother me because I think that’s just s slam on people - like me - who see political things differently.

I could very well be wrong but there doesn’t appear to be as many posters here as there was a couple of years ago. I don’t know if they all left because they didn’t feel welcome but I’m sure some did (and I’m not talking about the obvious trolls).

After trying to have a reasonable death penalty discussion a while back and being called bloodthirsty, and a murderer with blood on his hands I decided to relegate my posts to mostly fluff. I almost left but decided there are some here whose opinions I still like to read.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 10, 2018 • 5:09:51pm

It’s so funny seeing everyone turn on Bannon based on a book of lies.

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Renaissance_Man  Jan 10, 2018 • 5:09:59pm

re: #17 plansbandc

Exactly. Highly disappointing and wrong for her character. I will not be watching.

It’s a commercial for the orange bag.

If they want to be realistic, then the Roseanne show should simply be a half hour of watching Roseanne watch FOX and yelling things at the TV.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 10, 2018 • 5:11:17pm

re: #106 ObserverArt

I’ve been in Photoshop mood today.

I got to thinking about Lindsey Graham and his seemingly mixed up approach to, well, everything. He’s all over the place.

So it lead to this…

[Embedded content]

Graham. Crackers.

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allegro  Jan 10, 2018 • 5:13:54pm

re: #104 Skip Intro

I think being able to buy your offspring citizenship is a scam. What makes these people more worthy of citizenship than the child of an immigrant from the third world?

Yes, it is a scam, if you want to look at it like that. It is also quite a high compliment. I have never given birth but I would think that a young pregnant woman traveling to another country, leaving her home and family at a really sensitive and emotional time, would have to be REALLY motivated by a desire to give her child the opportunity to choose American citizenship. It’s a BFD.

Both groups, whether wealthy from China or Russia or poor from Mexico are doing the same thing., i.e. taking advantage of our birthright laws. Ultimately, only the Russian children may be ultimately welcome as adults if they learn to speak perfect English and thoroughly assimilate. We have well demonstrated the xenophobia of our country the past few years, have we not?

The “buying citizenship” is BS. All of those children born here are citizens. What makes the wealthy ones okay to the Trumps and others at the time of their births is the profit they make from their mothers’ stays while they are here giving them their money. They don’t give a shit otherwise about the poor or the wealthy. They only care about the money right now.

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Jan 10, 2018 • 5:14:15pm

re: #69 Skip Intro

Trumps Behind Bars! It would be a ratings knockout!

“Orange is the New Black - The Trump Years”

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MsJ  Jan 10, 2018 • 5:14:24pm

re: #105 Skip Intro

The “Doom and Gloom” thing does bother me because I think that’s just s slam on people - like me - who see political things differently.

I could very well be wrong but there doesn’t appear to be as many posters here as there was a couple of years ago. I don’t know if they all left because they didn’t feel welcome but I’m sure some did (and I’m not talking about the obvious trolls).

I think people have left more because they are burned out on trump malfeasance. I have picked up other interests myself, but I still read everything. I don’t comment as much though.

And there are days I’ve said “enough of this shit” and go find a recipe to make and just shut down the internet. It’s just too depressing.

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JordanRules  Jan 10, 2018 • 5:15:21pm
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ObserverArt  Jan 10, 2018 • 5:16:59pm

re: #116 danarchy

After trying to have a reasonable death penalty discussion a while back and being called bloodthirsty, and a murderer with blood on his hands I decided to relegate my posts to mostly fluff. I almost left but decided there are some here whose opinions I still like to read.

Sorry to hear that.

I think all opinions are valid. And if you believe in yours, any blowback should just be taken as just another opinion.

Sometimes it is good to take a break, but again…I think the site works with robust discussion.

Another thing I am sure you are aware of; the death penalty is sure to bring strong counter arguments.

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Skip Intro  Jan 10, 2018 • 5:18:20pm

re: #123 JordanRules

Like the comments.

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A Cranky One  Jan 10, 2018 • 5:22:39pm

re: #110 ObserverArt

Well, it does seem the election of Trump had an effect on LGF. Not sure why, but that is how it feels.

I started posting before the election but haven’t commented much since. The truth is that seeing what is happening to our country is causing extreme anxiety and mental anguish. I find myself actively hating for the first time; finding myself in the same mode as RWNJs creates a lot of stress.

Sometimes I just want to shut it off and ignore what’s going on, stay narrowly focused on my own life and push away knowledge of all the terrible things being done to other humans.

Since the blog focuses a lot of politics, I can see other folks disengaging for those reasons. There are times where I want to avoid any thought of all the ways the orange buffoon is damaging our country, so even lurking is painful. But disengaging wouldn’t be the responsible adult thing to do, as desirable as it seems.

I’ve found that reading the comments and feeling the sense of community among the folks here reminds me of all the good people out there and of my obligations to resist.

So thanks lizards, for contributing to what sanity I retain. Even if occasionally I read interactions and want to post the video of the lizard farting in a bathtub in response. ;-)

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Charles Johnson  Jan 10, 2018 • 5:23:00pm
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The Major  Jan 10, 2018 • 5:23:13pm

re: #125 Skip Intro

Remember the old saw about opinions…

“Opinions are like assholes: we all have one, and they all stink….”

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Unabogie  Jan 10, 2018 • 5:23:31pm

re: #104 Skip Intro

I think being able to buy your offspring citizenship is a scam. What makes these people more worthy of citizenship than the child of an immigrant from the third world?

Nothing. Let them all in.

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ObserverArt  Jan 10, 2018 • 5:25:38pm

Hahahahahaha. I love Fox when they get thrown off their game. Saw some clips from these and decided to go see if there were YouTubes.

Trump’s immigration meeting was lowest day of presidency: Ann Coulter

Tucker: Where were Trump’s negotiation skills?

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Jan 10, 2018 • 5:26:03pm

re: #127 Charles Johnson

He filed them with his IRS audit letters.

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JordanRules  Jan 10, 2018 • 5:27:17pm

re: #120 allegro

There is a real alt-right push for American white babies (didn’t Paul Ryan just give his nod to this) so I think it’s fair to be skeptical about whether they would indeed be okay with it were they rich brown folks in this high profile scam.

Dealing with these deplorables is often an excercise in figuring out in what situations green can temporarily trump white. It certainly can vary.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 10, 2018 • 5:27:32pm

re: #131 SteveMcGriftFlynnComey… …corruptemoligate RN

He filed them with his IRS audit letters.

Someone in the magic balancefairyist need access at all costs press should ask to see one or more of these letters.

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Renaissance_Man  Jan 10, 2018 • 5:27:32pm

re: #126 A Cranky One

I started posting before the election but haven’t commented much since. The truth is that seeing what is happening to our country is causing extreme anxiety and mental anguish. I find myself actively hating for the first time; finding myself in the same mode as RWNJs creates a lot of stress.

Sometimes I just want to shut it off and ignore what’s going on, stay narrowly focused on my own life and push away knowledge of all the terrible things being done to other humans.

Since the blog focuses a lot of politics, I can see other folks disengaging for those reasons. There are times where I want to avoid any thought of all the ways the orange buffoon is damaging our country, so even lurking is painful. But disengaging wouldn’t be the responsible adult thing to do, as desirable as it seems.

I’ve found that reading the comments and feeling the sense of community among the folks here reminds me of all the good people out there and of my obligations to resist.

So thanks lizards, for contributing to what sanity I retain. Even if occasionally I read interactions and want to post the video of the lizard farting in a bathtub in response. ;-)

This is basically exactly how I felt for a couple of months after the election. I could not, would not, even open a news site or look at a TV, even a sane place like this. I still feel that way in many ways, but there is more numbness now.

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Skip Intro  Jan 10, 2018 • 5:28:28pm

re: #130 ObserverArt

Note to Fox. The only person who ever claimed that Trump had negotiating skills was Trump.

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JordanRules  Jan 10, 2018 • 5:29:24pm

re: #126 A Cranky One

This resonates with what a lot of folks tell me. Lots of trauma and anxiety around the country.
Thanks for sharing and chiming in when you want!

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 10, 2018 • 5:30:47pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 10, 2018 • 5:31:34pm

re: #127 Charles Johnson

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allegro  Jan 10, 2018 • 5:32:48pm

re: #132 JordanRules

There is a real alt-right push for American white babies (didn’t Paul Ryan just give his nod to this) so I think it’s fair to be skeptical about whether they would indeed be okay with it were they rich brown folks in this high profile scam.

Dealing with these deplorables is often an excercise in figuring out in what situations green can temporarily trump white. It certainly can vary.

Green, I think, always transcends brown when the green in flowing into their white hands. When its flowing into others they whine.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 10, 2018 • 5:33:23pm

re: #134 Renaissance_Man

This is basically exactly how I felt for a couple of months after the election. I could not, would not, even open a news site or look at a TV, even a sane place like this. I still feel that way in many ways, but there is more numbness now.

I’m not numb: I’m trying to fight back in whatever little ways I can. I have no choice: I can’t leave where I live.

Every generation has had to fight in one way or another to bring progress in this nation: It’s always been three steps forward and one or two back.

The fact the Dems are flipping seats in places like Oklahoma is telling.

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meteor  Jan 10, 2018 • 5:34:10pm

re: #133 Anymouse 🌹

What?

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plansbandc  Jan 10, 2018 • 5:35:40pm

re: #134 Renaissance_Man

I wanted to not read anything, but I had to. Doesn’t mean I don’t cry every day, because I do. But I need to know so I can fight, speak and fight against the bullshit.

But honestly? The orange bag’s reign is really affecting my mental and physical health. Do not know if I will be able to survive 4 years of it.

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Skip Intro  Jan 10, 2018 • 5:36:31pm

re: #137 Anymouse 🌹

I went to Stanford. Needed to use the bathroom. Bought a mug, sweat shirt, and bumper sticker. When people see it they say “You went to Stanford?”

I say “I sure did.”

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 10, 2018 • 5:36:59pm

re: #87 Skip Intro

Buying American citizenship is just wrong to me, but I guess we’ll allow anything if the money is good.

Come here without papers and give birth and we’ll throw your worthless ass out of here. Come here without papers but lots of money and give birth and it’s “Hello, there, new citizen!”

I believe this is one of those things we tolerate because on balance, we are ahead as a society. We pay a price for our amendments. A worthy one for the most part. Especially the 1st.

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JordanRules  Jan 10, 2018 • 5:43:02pm

re: #139 allegro

Ah but sometimes they don’t even want to bake you a cake and actually have to be made, by law, to let you give them some money at their lunch counter.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 10, 2018 • 5:43:29pm

There will be turmoil in the White House. Though, going to the trendy “energy drink” thin tall cans may make it easier for the Dotard to hold in his whee hands

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ObserverArt  Jan 10, 2018 • 5:43:45pm

re: #140 Anymouse 🌹

I’m not numb: I’m trying to fight back in whatever little ways I can. I have no choice: I can’t leave where I live.

Every generation has had to fight in one way or another to bring progress in this nation: It’s always been three steps forward and one or two back.

The fact the Dems are flipping seats in places like Oklahoma is telling.

So is 18 Republican Congress members deciding not to run next year.

And I hope more decide to do the same as they see others bail.

Sympathetic quitting.

The nice thing with them leaving now is it sort of pushes others to decide to run that may not be prepared or even ready.

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Belafon  Jan 10, 2018 • 5:44:35pm

re: #144 Unshaken Defiance

I believe this is one of those things we tolerate because on balance, we are ahead as a society. We pay a price for our amendments. A worthy one for the most part. Especially the 1st.

Our first amendment allowed a man to accuse a president of not being an American for most of eight years. For the most part, it’s a good.

And no, it wasn’t the first amendment that led us to Trump, it was the voters.

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Belafon  Jan 10, 2018 • 5:46:26pm

re: #134 Renaissance_Man

This is basically exactly how I felt for a couple of months after the election. I could not, would not, even open a news site or look at a TV, even a sane place like this. I still feel that way in many ways, but there is more numbness now.

Choose anger rather than numbness. It’s OK to be angry with the president and those who allowed him to get into office. Then channel that in to making is term short and miserable.

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allegro  Jan 10, 2018 • 5:46:29pm

re: #145 JordanRules

Ah but sometimes they don’t even want to bake you a cake and actually have to be made, by law, to let you give them some money at their lunch counter.

Valid point. I guess now we’re just quibbling over price.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 10, 2018 • 5:47:09pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 10, 2018 • 5:47:13pm

re: #146 FormerDirtDart

There will be turmoil in the White House. Though, going to the trendy “energy drink” thin tall cans may make it easier for the Dotard to hold in his whee hands

[Embedded content]

When they change the packaging like that, the new containers are usually an ounce or so less than the old containers, but cost the same.

Tropicana did that with their orange juice bottles a few years ago.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 10, 2018 • 5:48:13pm

The weather shifted to all snow. I just went out in my car, the streets are freezing quagmires of sand and mud with ice and snow on top. Yay.

forecast.weather.gov

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JordanRules  Jan 10, 2018 • 5:49:19pm

re: #152 The Vicious Babushka

I swear my “double” rolls of toilet paper have seemed smaller for a few years.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Jan 10, 2018 • 5:49:21pm

re: #153 Anymouse 🌹

The weather shifted to all snow. I just went out in my car, the streets are freezing quagmires of sand and mud with ice and snow on top. Yay.

forecast.weather.gov

yuk

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Belafon  Jan 10, 2018 • 5:49:34pm

re: #151 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

He will take the presidency from my cold, dead fingers.

And, BTW, the simplest solution to Trump is to make any person running for president have to publicly release the previous 14 years of tax returns, the same span they are required to be in the US.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Jan 10, 2018 • 5:51:09pm

re: #146 FormerDirtDart

There will be turmoil in the White House. Though, going to the trendy “energy drink” thin tall cans may make it easier for the Dotard to hold in his whee hands

[Embedded content]

The refrigerator makers of earth thank Diet Coke for making them redesign their models.

//

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bill d. (b.d.)  Jan 10, 2018 • 5:53:17pm

re: #146 FormerDirtDart

There will be turmoil in the White House. Though, going to the trendy “energy drink” thin tall cans may make it easier for the Dotard to hold in his whee hands

[Embedded content]

Changing up Coca-Cola, what could go wrong?

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JordanRules  Jan 10, 2018 • 5:54:02pm

He’s got a whole ‘nother week. He’ll probably forget about the fake media awards and then dream them up again like it’s the first time he thought of it.
Or the first time Steven Miller mentioned it.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 10, 2018 • 5:54:23pm

re: #126 A Cranky One

Of course I’d not speak for our kind host. I’ll just go out on a limb and guess the anti Trump focus is because the fight is just, it is necessary and it is now. We bring what we have to what we care about. Charles has a blog of no small relevance.

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ObserverArt  Jan 10, 2018 • 5:54:25pm

re: #154 JordanRules

I swear my “double” rolls of toilet paper have seemed smaller for a few years.

Kroger recently did something similar to their single rolls of paper towel. They even dropped the price a bit. Problem is the rolls are probably about 7/8ths the length for a $1. They were around $1.10 before. They get a few cents more a roll.

Sneaky.

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Renaissance_Man  Jan 10, 2018 • 5:55:23pm

re: #149 Belafon

Choose anger rather than numbness. It’s OK to be angry with the president and those who allowed him to get into office. Then channel that in to making is term short and miserable.

I already feel enough anger. More would damage my soul and lead me to do things I dare not contemplate. And the worst part of the horror I feel is knowing that even in 8 years when Trump won’t be president, the American people will still be monsters. Trump is merely the symptom of a nation turned mad.

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Belafon  Jan 10, 2018 • 5:59:31pm

re: #162 Renaissance_Man

I already feel enough anger. More would damage my soul and lead me to do things I dare not contemplate. And the worst part of the horror I feel is knowing that even in 8 years when Trump won’t be president, the American people will still be monsters. Trump is merely the symptom of a nation turned mad.

And we won’t get rid of them. Not short of an actual war. But, I think we’re finally getting people to vote who were too apathetic in 2016.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 10, 2018 • 5:59:34pm

re: #105 Skip Intro

The “Doom and Gloom” thing does bother me because I think that’s just s slam on people - like me - who see political things differently.

I could very well be wrong but there doesn’t appear to be as many posters here as there was a couple of years ago. I don’t know if they all left because they didn’t feel welcome but I’m sure some did (and I’m not talking about the obvious trolls).

You are right. There are fewer commenters. It’s my fault!! This is the third site I followed; the previous two were discontinued by their owners. I really enjoy the conversation here and the insights of the contributers. I miss PLL, but he was deleted after too many violations of of Charles’ policies.

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ObserverArt  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:00:16pm

re: #162 Renaissance_Man

I already feel enough anger. More would damage my soul and lead me to do things I dare not contemplate. And the worst part of the horror I feel is knowing that even in 8 years when Trump won’t be president, the American people will still be monsters. Trump is merely the symptom of a nation turned mad.

The monsters have always been there.

The difference now is they have the internet and Fox News to make themselves more evident and seemingly larger.

I think we are at about the 320 million population mark.

10% of that is 32 million. So let’s just say there are 32 million really bad people.

Think of that as far as voting power especially if too many people grow so disillusioned to not vote.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:01:14pm

re: #114 Anymouse 🌹

Wow.

(Anymouse turns to wife: Would you rather have me or a baby duck? Mrs. Anymouse … let me think about that for three days and I’ll get back to you… .)

Hmmm … I’m guessing Meteor accidentally down-dinged that comment, since I don’t see anything particularly offensive in it (but if there is, please tell me).

I’m not particularly worried since I can’t translate dings to Sorosbux anyway.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:01:47pm

re: #146 FormerDirtDart

There will be turmoil in the White House. Though, going to the trendy “energy drink” thin tall cans may make it easier for the Dotard to hold in his whee hands

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I was an avid Tab aficionado but abandoned it and Diet Coke and switched to Diet Pepsi. The reason: Diet Pepsi does not have aspartame.

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JordanRules  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:02:52pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:06:10pm

When I look around at events, and this blog did not have the anti Trump focus it does have, I’d be pushing it that way in Pages and comments. Because this is that important.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:07:05pm

re: #157 bill d. (b.d.)

The refrigerator makers of earth thank Diet Coke for making them redesign their models.

//

I was thinking tall, thin cans are just what everyone one wants rattling around in the cup holders of their cars

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:08:03pm

re: #163 Belafon

And we won’t get rid of them. Not short of an actual war. But, I think we’re finally getting people to vote who were too apathetic in 2016.

I read something earlier today about an eighteen year-old who started a group to get eighteen to twenty year olds registered to vote.

There is also this:
civicyouth.org

Exit polling in New Jersey and Virginia’s elections seem to indicate that 18-20 year old voters surged in the Virginia elections, which were an important demographic in the outcomes. Over the last eight years, engagement by 18-20 year olds in New Jersey stayed relatively flat, whilst turnout in that demographic doubled to about a third of all those eligible in Virginia. (A third is still horrible, but much better than in the past.)

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Skip Intro  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:13:12pm

Silvio Berlusconi set to return to Italian politics after Sicilian election victory

These turds just never float away.

amp-theguardian-com.cdn.ampproject.org

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:14:07pm

re: #152 The Vicious Babushka

When they change the packaging like that, the new containers are usually an ounce or so less than the old containers, but cost the same.

Tropicana did that with their orange juice bottles a few years ago.

Adweek article says they’re staying at 12 oz.
Though, since Coke hold stock of Monster, I could see them adopting their 32 oz. cans
//

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Belafon  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:14:15pm

A DK diary on Oprah’s dubious relationship with science, and why that wouldn’t make her a good president: dailykos.com.

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meteor  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:16:43pm
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FormerDirtDart  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:17:23pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:18:03pm

Looking down through the breakdown by parties, Civic Youth cited above notes that in Virginia around 70% of the 18-20 vote went to Ralph Northam and Democratic candidates. 29% went to Ed Gillespie, and the last 1% to other candidates.

In 2013, the vote count was significantly lower for Democrats. (This might also indicate that a combination of disdain for Republicans and Democratic ideas and voter engagement is having an effect: Many voters form their political opinions early in life and do not change much.)

Young voters are the most notoriously apathetic. When motivated to vote, they can have a real impact on local, state, and national elections.

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Belafon  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:18:24pm

Awesome! Kris Kobach presented his voter fraud stuff in Kansas today (A Daily Kos article written by Chris Reeves, who did a lot to get voter turnout last year in Kansas).

But what rate of false positives exist in comparison to the alarming rate, as Representative Parker pointed out, of 1 potential voter at the top end in every 2 counties in the state? Is the false positive greater or smaller than the rate of totally unverified bad voters?

With that, Representative Vic Miller (D-Topeka) began to think about the statistics being discussed and pivoted to the question that shut down the room: “Secretary of State Kobach, per our records, it appears so far all of the voters prosecuted have been Republicans. Isn’t that an anomaly? Is it odd that 100% of the voter fraud in this state is by Republican voters?” Kobach, answering that he hadn’t checked voter registration in his cases, said he preferred not to speculate. “Maybe,” contended Rep. Miller, “Republicans are genetically predisposed to voter fraud?” the shot, a jab at racist commentary in a town hall by Representative Alford (R-Ulysses) was quickly followed with, “that’s how ridiculous it sounds,”.

Kobach’s initial call to turn local municipality races partisan faced equal responses. Conservative Republican Kristey Williams (R-Augusta) asked, “how does this make sense,”.

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Renaissance_Man  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:22:56pm

re: #165 ObserverArt

The monsters have always been there.

The difference now is they have the internet and Fox News to make themselves more evident and seemingly larger.

I think we are at about the 320 million population mark.

10% of that is 32 million. So let’s just say there are 32 million really bad people.

Think of that as far as voting power especially if too many people grow so disillusioned to not vote.

There are just over 63 million. And their children. Plus likely a few more.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:29:21pm

I suspect that surge of youth voter turnout in Virginia helped with this:

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:29:34pm

re: #176 FormerDirtDart

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VegasGolfer  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:29:38pm

re: #174 Belafon

A DK diary on Oprah’s dubious relationship with science, and why that wouldn’t make her a good president: dailykos.com.

That whole diary is BS.

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stpaulbear  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:31:13pm

Lots more info at BJ.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:31:38pm

re: #126 A Cranky One

I look forward to pix of Mrs. Cranky’s garden.

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stpaulbear  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:32:15pm
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Belafon  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:32:16pm

re: #179 Renaissance_Man

There are just over 63 million. And their children. Plus likely a few more.

The thing that tires me out in the area I’m in is all of the Republicans around here who make enough money that they think they can ignore what’s going on in DC. These are the kinds of people that will tell you they’re for all the stuff America stands for - a good chunk of them work for a government contractor, so they get an indirect paycheck from Uncle Sam - but come voting time, it’s Republican because of taxes or abortion. And they watch just enough Fox to stay a Republican. And there is nothing I can talk about that will get them interested in what’s actually going on.

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JordanRules  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:32:40pm
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Stanley Sea  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:34:25pm

re: #152 The Vicious Babushka

When they change the packaging like that, the new containers are usually an ounce or so less than the old containers, but cost the same.

Tropicana did that with their orange juice bottles a few years ago.

Bryer’s ice cream did the big rip off.

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garzooma  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:35:59pm

re: #178 Belafon

Awesome! Kris Kobach presented his voter fraud stuff in Kansas today (A Daily Kos article written by Chris Reeves, who did a lot to get voter turnout last year in Kansas).

[…]
With that, Representative Vic Miller (D-Topeka) began to think about the statistics being discussed and pivoted to the question that shut down the room: “Secretary of State Kobach, per our records, it appears so far all of the voters prosecuted have been Republicans. Isn’t that an anomaly? Is it odd that 100% of the voter fraud in this state is by Republican voters?” Kobach, answering that he hadn’t checked voter registration in his cases, said he preferred not to speculate. “Maybe,” contended Rep. Miller, “Republicans are genetically predisposed to voter fraud?”
[…]

Actually, there’s a simple explanation. Republican voters are told by leaders like Kobach that voter fraud is 1.) easy to get away with (millions of cases and only a tiny number caught) and 2.) something the other side is doing it. Of course people who believe this are going to try it!

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Charles Johnson  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:42:34pm
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FormerDirtDart  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:45:42pm
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Belafon  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:45:57pm

re: #190 Charles Johnson

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:46:04pm
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Barefoot Grin  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:46:49pm

re: #190 Charles Johnson

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At the Trump rally I attended summer 2015 he was saying shit like, “I build things; I can build a beautiful wall 40’ high! Maybe they’ll put my name on it”, and the numbskulls cheered.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:47:14pm
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Belafon  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:48:22pm
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makeitstop  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:48:22pm

re: #190 Charles Johnson

Trump has “discovered” a physical wall is not needed across entire border; part of it is better technology, part of it is fencing, etc

So, pretty much what we’ve already got, right?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:48:59pm

re: #190 Charles Johnson

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:49:05pm

re: #194 Barefoot Grin

At the Trump rally I attended summer 2015 he was saying shit like, “I build things; I can build a beautiful wall 40’ high! Maybe they’ll put my name on it”, and the numbskulls cheered.

And I hate to belabor the point, but I will, because that’s what I do—but these were wealthy New Hampshire people, not “hillbilly elegy looking forlornly out the window in black and white” people.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:50:10pm
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ObserverArt  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:50:35pm

re: #182 VegasGolfer

That whole diary is BS.

Can you give a little explanation to your comment?

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JordanRules  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:50:54pm

Racist piece of shit.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:51:02pm

After Suicide Video, YouTube Cuts Business Ties With Logan Paul

But they like the revenue he brings in too much to ban this turd, and he gained 100,000 new followers by posting the suicide video.

This little shit earns 1.3 million a month in ad dollars. Humanity sucks.

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meteor  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:51:43pm

re: #202 JordanRules

What a piece of shit.

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Skip Intro  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:52:25pm

re: #193 Backwoods_Sleuth

I wonder how Trump can even see his phone from that distance. Put on your glasses, Donnie. Maybe they’ll make you look smart like Rick Perry.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:54:42pm

I missed this earlier:

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ObserverArt  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:56:18pm

re: #193 Backwoods_Sleuth

The Hill

@thehill
Judge cites Trump’s tweet in decision to block him from ending DACA hill.cm

4:40 PM - Jan 10, 2018
44 44 Replies 172 172 Retweets 362 362 likes

I remember that image. I used it in this. Scary how it has become a bit more serious since I did it back in December ‘16. Yikes.

Donald Trump in his Trump Tower Office Doing the Important Presidential Work
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meteor  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:56:54pm

re: #206 Backwoods_Sleuth

But the B-52s do.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:58:20pm

re: #206 Backwoods_Sleuth

I missed this earlier:

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But they will!

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Skip Intro  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:58:23pm

re: #208 meteor

Trump’s just remembering his grades at Wharton.

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MsJ  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:58:24pm

re: #206 Backwoods_Sleuth

I missed this earlier:

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But the B-52s do… And trump is as dumb as a rock lobster.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:58:50pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 10, 2018 • 6:59:05pm
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Barefoot Grin  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:03:00pm

re: #211 MsJ

But the B-52s do… And trump is as dumb as a rock lobster.

Or my favorite line from “Mesopotamia”:

“Before I talk, I should read a book.”

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wheat-dogg  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:03:16pm

re: #188 Stanley Sea

Bryer’s ice cream did the big rip off.

Breyer’s was my favorite ice cream growing up. My parents liked the “all natural” aspect and I liked the taste and mouth-feel (though I didn’t know about mouth-feel back then). Then Breyer’s got bought by a big conglomerate, which also bought Ben & Jerry’s. Big conglomerate decided it should only offer one premium ice cream, so that breyer’s and B&J would not compete against each other. So, Breyer’s went cheap: no more all natural, no more simple ingredients — just more fillers, emulsifiers, and what not.

Now Breyer’s is really no different from any store brand ice cream, but I reckon people buy it because like me they grew up with fond memories. Brand loyalty.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:04:24pm

re: #213 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I haven’t listened in sooo long.

Planet Claire is the best.

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Sea Mexican!  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:08:34pm

re: #203 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

After Suicide Video, YouTube Cuts Business Ties With Logan Paul

Gee, finally YT takes some action!

No matter how I look at this, YouTube comes out bad. And it’s not just the Aokigahara video. As much as it pains me, I agree with PewDiePie. YT has been extremely lenient with the Pauls, despite everything they’ve done.

But they like the revenue he brings in too much to ban this turd, and he gained 100,000 new followers by posting the suicide video.

This little shit earns 1.3 million a month in ad dollars. Humanity sucks.

Agreed.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:09:36pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:11:46pm
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VegasGolfer  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:13:17pm

re: #201 ObserverArt

No actual quotes from OW about her “anti science”, “anti vaccine” views.
She might have had people on her shows to give their views on various topics, but i have not seen her push those views to try and get regulations or legislation to endorse them, like the right does all the time. She is in the infotainment business, and she might have put the wrong people on her shows, but whenever I saw someone like Jenny McCarthy on her show pushing her views, I knew she was full of shit. And any sane person should also be able to see this.
Plus comments from the diary like this, “Even if it means another four years of Trump. We need to have at least one party that supports science in this country. “
The fact that people on “our side” have been losing their minds for over two news cycles about an oprah run which hasn’t even been corroborated is ridiculous, and I haven’t heard one word about her on the news shows I’ve watched tonight.
Unfortunately this is the era we live in. The fast food attention span, idiocracy, etc where a celebrity can get elected to the highest office, and there are worse celebrities to consider. Kid Rock, the Rock, Kanye West.

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nines09  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:15:30pm

re: #215 wheat-dogg

Breyer’s was my favorite ice cream growing up. My parents liked the “all natural” aspect and I liked the taste and mouth-feel (though I didn’t know about mouth-feel back then). Then Breyer’s got bought by a big conglomerate, which also bought Ben & Jerry’s. Big conglomerate decided it should only offer one premium ice cream, so that breyer’s and B&J would not compete against each other. So, Breyer’s went cheap: no more all natural, no more simple ingredients — just more fillers, emulsifiers, and what not.

Now Breyer’s is really no different from any store brand ice cream, but I reckon people buy it because like me they grew up with fond memories. Brand loyalty.

Breyers was a Philly institution. On just about every other candy store was their signs.

They killed it. The old factory still stands. It was the best ice cream.

Melted Away

Don’t even get me started with Tastykake.

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Scout  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:17:17pm

re: #218 Stanley Sea

Give me back my man

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I’ve listened to “Private Idaho” at least once a day for the past two or three months.

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Scout  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:17:49pm
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Stanley Sea  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:18:57pm

re: #215 wheat-dogg

Breyer’s was my favorite ice cream growing up. My parents liked the “all natural” aspect and I liked the taste and mouth-feel (though I didn’t know about mouth-feel back then). Then Breyer’s got bought by a big conglomerate, which also bought Ben & Jerry’s. Big conglomerate decided it should only offer one premium ice cream, so that breyer’s and B&J would not compete against each other. So, Breyer’s went cheap: no more all natural, no more simple ingredients — just more fillers, emulsifiers, and what not.

Now Breyer’s is really no different from any store brand ice cream, but I reckon people buy it because like me they grew up with fond memories. Brand loyalty.

Ah, their mint chocolate chip is still very yum. & not green.

I will not eat green mint cc

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wheat-dogg  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:21:31pm

re: #221 nines09

Breyers was a Philly institution. On just about every other candy store was their signs.

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They killed it. The old factory still stands. It was the best ice cream.

Melted Away

Don’t even get me started with Tastykake.

They had outlets on Long Island, too. I remember those signs.

It’s what happens when a small company sells itself to (or gets bought by) a larger concern. The ethics and mission of the founders is lost, as the new owners take advantage of the brand loyalty the small company created.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:25:08pm

re: #222 Scout

I’ve listened to “Private Idaho” at least once a day for the past two or three months.

I saw them in the late 70’s. (told this before, but let me re-live it!)

It was WILD. We drove from North Palm Beach to Ft Lauderdale on a school night.

I dyed my hair purple with food coloring, had a thrift shop 50’s dress & those plastic shoes. My date wore ripped white jeans.

We were freaking out the whole drive down thinking we would look so ridiculous.

Get there & see a girl wearing a top and pantyhose, nothing underneath.
Another girl with a lobster on her head.

We were tame.

This was when they held the toy piano for the ping ping ping ping.

I’ll never forget it.

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Pineapple Pizzagate  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:25:20pm

It’s one thing to be mocked for not knowing the Star Spangled Banner.
It’s another to be mocked for not knowing the Star Spangled Banner by an Englishman.

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Interesting Times  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:26:37pm

Ha!

Any lizard constituents in that crowd?

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nines09  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:27:59pm

re: #225 wheat-dogg

Inside Hunting Park’s Abandoned Tastykake Factory

They sold it to Flowers, a baking company from Georgia. Then they did This

Now it’s overpriced shit.

Goodnight all.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:28:32pm

re: #224 Stanley Sea

Ah, their mint chocolate chip is still very yum. & not green.

I will not eat green mint cc

It was a simple model. Breyer’s was hipster long before it was hip to be all-natural. Cost maybe 2x as much as other brands, but my parents decided it was worth it. You could really tell the difference between Breyer’s and other brands. Now not so much.

I also remember how crushed I was when I learned Haagen Dazs was not really an imported brand, but was just an overpriced domestic brand with a foreign-sounding name.

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DodgerFan1988  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:29:03pm

Supreme Leader Trump demands accountability.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:29:44pm

re: #228 Interesting Times

Ha!

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Any lizard constituents in that crowd?

I’ve been with them once, but not lately. The Resistance North County San Diego is STRONG.

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ObserverArt  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:31:22pm

re: #221 nines09

Breyers was a Philly institution. On just about every other candy store was their signs.

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They killed it. The old factory still stands. It was the best ice cream.

Melted Away

Don’t even get me started with Tastykake.

Like Isaly’s here in Ohio. Now the name is on Klondike Bars owned by some other corporation. For the longest time they had a great selection of real ice cream and killer sherberts. All that is gone. Oh yeah, a good snack bar too with their “chip chop ham” sandwiches that people loved.

But now we see the cycle come around again as Columbus has Jeni’s which is wildly popular…in spite of issues a few years back. She’ll probably grow big, sell off and then be gone too sometime.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:31:26pm

re: #226 Stanley Sea

I saw them in the late 70’s. (told this before, but let me re-live it!)

It was WILD. We drove from North Palm Beach to Ft Lauderdale on a school night.

I dyed my hair purple with food coloring, had a thrift shop 50’s dress & those plastic shoes. My date wore ripped white jeans.

We were freaking out the whole drive down thinking we would look so ridiculous.

Get there & see a girl wearing a top and pantyhose, nothing underneath.
Another girl with a lobster on her head.

We were tame.

This was when they held the toy piano for the ping ping ping ping.

I’ll never forget it.

They were already royalty in Athens by the time I got to college in Atlanta and somehow never saw them. I also missed Pylon (damnit). I saw REM in a small club once (and they came to my friend’s freshman comp class—I filled in for him that day and got to hear Michael and Peter talk about their second album). Swimming Pool Qs were constant favorites. And I had classes with the Indigo Girls (and saw them many times when they were just getting started).

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:31:38pm

re: #188 Stanley Sea

Bryer’s ice cream did the big rip off.

In more ways than one.

I remember when Breyers’ was still part of Kraft and had no artificial additives in their ice cream products. After getting bought by Unilever, they have systematically not only reduced the size of their packaging (moving from 2 quart to 1.75, then to 1.5 quart containers), they also have completely abandoned the no-additives stance to the point that several of their products are no longer allowed to be called ice cream due to the fact they have almost no cream at all in them anymore.

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Belafon  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:31:44pm

re: #231 DodgerFan1988

Supreme Leader Trump demands accountability.

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As almost everyone in the comments is saying, it already is: Mueller’s a Republican.

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ObserverArt  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:35:18pm

re: #226 Stanley Sea

I saw them in the late 70’s. (told this before, but let me re-live it!)

It was WILD. We drove from North Palm Beach to Ft Lauderdale on a school night.

I dyed my hair purple with food coloring, had a thrift shop 50’s dress & those plastic shoes. My date wore ripped white jeans.

We were freaking out the whole drive down thinking we would look so ridiculous.

Get there & see a girl wearing a top and pantyhose, nothing underneath.
Another girl with a lobster on her head.

We were tame.

This was when they held the toy piano for the ping ping ping ping.

I’ll never forget it.

They and The Cramps used to play an old upstairs New Wave club down near Ohio State campus called Crazy MaMa’s. Notorious shows.

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stpaulbear  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:37:28pm

re: #234 Barefoot Grin

They were already royalty in Athens by the time I got to college in Atlanta and somehow never saw them. I also missed Pylon (damnit). I saw REM in a small club once (and they came to my friend’s freshman comp class—I filled in for him that day and got to hear Michael and Peter talk about their second album). Swimming Pool Qs were constant favorites. And I had classes with the Indigo Girls (and saw them many times when they were just getting started).

Was Love Tractor a thing when you were in Athens Atlanta?

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The Major  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:37:59pm

re: #230 wheat-dogg

I also remember how crushed I was when I learned Haagen Dazs was not really an imported brand, but was just an overpriced domestic brand with a foreign-sounding name.

And then anybody remember the other foreign-sounding knock-off to compete against them: “Fruzen Guladje”?

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wheat-dogg  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:41:35pm

re: #239 The Major

And then anybody remember the other foreign-sounding knock-off to compete against them: “Fruzen Guladje”?

Nope. When was it on the markets?

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retired cynic  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:46:56pm

re: #168 JordanRules

I can’t eat lobster out, because of that. I’m a wuss.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:47:25pm

re: #238 stpaulbear

Was Love Tractor a thing when you were in Athens Atlanta?

Like Pylon, B-52s, and Swimming Pool Qs, I knew of Love Tractor from my older brother’s record collection (he DJ-ed at his small college in Ohio and brought home promo albums while I was in high school). I went to Atlanta in fall of ‘83. They may have been still going, but I didn’t get to see them. I didn’t have a car until my junior year and that’s when I started going to 688 and midtown (saw RuPaul dancing). I actually went to Athens to see cousins a couple of times, but I never went to 40 Watt or anywhere else to see the scene—huge regrets. When I was in high school late-night djs at the University of Illinois station WPGU were pushing the REM EP “Chronic Town” hard and i was a big fan, so I was excited to get to see them up close.

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The Major  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:54:57pm

re: #240 wheat-dogg

Nope. When was it on the markets?

I remember seeing a TV ad for it back in the 1970s.

The one ice cream I really missed was Godiva licensed their name to some company in Texas (I think ) and they made a Belgian Dark Chocolate that was to DIE FOR. Unfortunately, due to circumstances, that went away….

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The Major  Jan 10, 2018 • 7:57:21pm
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The Major  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:03:10pm
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Skip Intro  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:07:55pm
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JordanRules  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:08:28pm

Oh wow.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:09:30pm

re: #247 JordanRules

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stpaulbear  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:12:13pm

re: #246 Skip Intro

Ally

@missmayn
Can someone tell Lindsay Graham we all know he’s gay and none of us care so please stop letting yourself be blackmailed?

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JordanRules  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:12:20pm

re: #248 The Ghost of a Flea

Inspiration!

I need to see how committed he was. How far did the black makeup go up his arms etc?

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makeitstop  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:15:23pm

Here’s my cat Bean in a bag from a sort-of Chinese joint.

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Interesting Times  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:16:24pm

In which someone takes backpfeifengesicht literally:

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:17:30pm

re: #248 The Ghost of a Flea

That’s the first thing I thought, too.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:19:01pm

wow, what an exciting year for president trump, fulfilling all his campaign promises!! hillary is dying in a prison hospital, obamacare has been repealed down to the last letter and replaced by a system that covers more people and is cheaper, mexico is paying for the wall which is ahead of schedule and under budget, muslims are now banned from entering the united states, we forcebly deported over a million illegal aliens in 2017, terrorist attacks are a thing of the past, whole factories are being uptooted and moved back to the midwest, and trump never has to negotiate or even talk with democrats since they are totally powerless!!

best of all, president trump is vigorously setting the agenda for the republican party by sending bills to the congress instead of just supinely (oh, sorry, used a big word) signing whatever RINO/globalist legislation ryan and mcconnell put on his desk

isn’t it glorious to hear the chorus of praise resounding across all public forums praising the wisdom, sagacity, maturity, stability, and leadership of our glorious president trump! what a beautiful gigantic statue of our dear leader trump in trump square facing the former white house, now named the golden palace of the eternal wisdom of our dear leader trump who will rule forever!!

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:19:45pm

re: #250 JordanRules

Inspiration!

I need to see how committed he was. How far did the black makeup go up his arms etc?

I’m not even with the blackface robbery and trying to focus on the funny Shock-G reference. If I think about it, I’m going to get a headache.

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JordanRules  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:20:49pm

re: #255 The Ghost of a Flea

Ha! Fair enough.
They should probably check the Burger King bathroom.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:22:05pm

re: #245 The Major

Who gives a fig what this pantload bloviates about ? He’s nothing more than a captain of a garbage scow….

a three hour tour?

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JordanRules  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:22:54pm

re: #252 Interesting Times

Really nice resort, I’m sure Harv thought he’d remain unbothered.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:24:47pm

the big blow last week was The Book

the big blow this week is his base finding out he will actually sign daca into law

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Skip Intro  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:26:52pm

re: #245 The Major

Harvard law to a fourth rate website with dreams of returning to Breitbart’s home for the chronically unemployable.

Hell of a career path there Ben.

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retired cynic  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:39:13pm
If we even want there to BE a real presidential election in 2020, we need to first do the work to create a Big Blue Wave this Autumn, November 6, 2018. Let’s focus on that. Let’s let any celebrities who want to be involved do whatever they can to help produce the Big Blue Wave.

Quote from Hecate Demeter

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:42:21pm

re: #256 JordanRules

Ha! Fair enough.
They should probably check the Burger King bathroom.

I’m going to see it as a net positive in my life that I remember so much of “Humpty Dance” after two decades and change.

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JordanRules  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:42:54pm

Enjoyed the porridge discussion in the comments.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:46:04pm

re: #263 JordanRules

Enjoyed the porridge discussion in the comments.

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Alpha males eh?

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TedStriker  Jan 10, 2018 • 8:47:07pm

re: #262 The Ghost of a Flea

I’m going to see it as a net positive in my life that I remember so much of “Humpty Dance” after two decades and change.

I sang on “Doowutchyalike”
And, if you missed it
I’m the one who said
Just grab ‘em in the biscuits


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