Trump Issues Weak, Garbled Denial of His Racist “Shithole” Comment, but Dick Durbin Says He’s Lying Again

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Despite the fact that his own press office didn’t deny it, and despite the fact that other White House officials boasted yesterday that the comment would appeal to his base of supporters, Donald Trump is now denying he called Haiti and African nations “shithole countries.”

Well, sort of denying it. His tweet is weirdly phrased, perhaps deliberately.

And of course, as we all knew already, Trump is lying again. Sen. Dick Durbin (D-IL), who was at the meeting, confirmed to the New York Times that Trump said this — and more: Senator Insists Trump Used ‘Vile and Racist’ Language.

WASHINGTON — President Trump on Friday offered a vague denial about the language he chose to use about immigrants during a private meeting with lawmakers at the White House on Thursday, when he reportedly referred to African nations as “shithole countries.”

But Senator Richard J. Durbin, Democrat of Illinois, said on Friday that the president did use the term “shithole” during the course of the meeting on immigration — which Mr. Durbin attended. The senator described Mr. Trump as saying “things which were hate-filled, vile and racist.”

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:21:47am
But Senator Richard J. Durbin, Democrat of Illinois, said on Friday that the president did use the term “shithole” during the course of the meeting on immigration — which Mr. Durbin attended. The senator described Mr. Trump as saying “things which were hate-filled, vile and racist.”

I wanna know what else Trump said. I have a feeling it’s even worse than his “shithole” comment.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:24:24am

re: #1 Dr Lizardo

I wanna know what else Trump said. I have a feeling it’s even worse than his “shithole” comment.

Iirc Durbin mentioned that using chain migration was a hurtful term to the AA community given how most AA families arrived and Trumps response was that he liked that and wanted to go with it.

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A Mom Anon  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:26:45am

re: #1 Dr Lizardo

Part of the reason Trump is the way he is has a LOT to do with being protected his whole life from any consequences of his actions. I’m glad Senator Durbin spoke up, but unless he’s willing to say out loud and on the record what was actually said, he’s not helping the bigger issue. If you’re going to say he said more than that then SAY WHAT IT IS or don’t add that to your statement.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:28:10am

re: #3 A Mom Anon

Part of the reason Trump is the way he is has a LOT to do with being protected his whole life from any consequences of his actions. I’m glad Senator Durbin spoke up, but unless he’s willing to say out loud and on the record what was actually said, he’s not helping the bigger issue. If you’re going to say he said more than that then SAY WHAT IT IS or don’t add that to your statement.

Yep. Let’s get it out there in the open.

Sunlight is the best disinfectant, as they say.

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Belafon  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:30:15am

re: #4 Dr Lizardo

Yep. Let’s get it out there in the open.

Sunlight is the best disinfectant, as they say.

The infestation is trying to avoid it.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:30:17am

I think there’s nothing he can do that will alienate his supporters based on what I’m seeing.

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jaunte  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:30:35am
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Belafon  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:31:06am

re: #6 HappyWarrior

I think there’s nothing he can do that will alienate his supporters based on what I’m seeing.

Which means we don’t need to try to expend any energy in that area. Just concentrate on everyone else.

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weave  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:32:06am
Today, an immigrant that doesn’t speak English and has no skills has a greater chance of ending up as a welfare recipient, or in jail, than he does of becoming a self-supporting citizen.

Source: “Streiff” — Redstate.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:32:38am

re: #8 Belafon

Which means we don’t need to try to expend any energy in that area. Just concentrate on everyone else.

Oh I know. That was more just frustration sighing. One of my former teachers took on the remark and some of his friends are total Trumpers.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:33:02am
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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:34:01am

The warm weather has brought out those ugly, fat, flies…

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:34:03am

re: #9 weave

Source: “Streiff” — Redstate.

My great grandmother never learned English or worked outside the home. My grandmother and her siblings turned out okay. My godmother was even valedictorian.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:34:32am

re: #11 Charles Johnson

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Shut up you orange piece of shit.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:34:44am

re: #7 jaunte

“We just need the Asians working on the Asian stuff, OK?”
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wrenchwench  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:34:51am

re: #7 jaunte

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The headline:

Trump’s history of breaking decorum with remarks on race, ethnicity

‘Breaking decorum’; I’m going to have to save that one. I’m not sure what for, but it sure doesn’t belong there.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:35:05am

Crap I posted the same thing on the dead last thread twice.

[[[Observer Art]]]

re: #558 Anymouse 🌹

I’m particularly sorry about your friend’s wife on Vieques Island being on the receiving end of the New Conservative Cruelty (same as the old, but fortified with 20% more covfefe).

Quoting the old gospel spiritual: We Shall Overcome (if atheists are allowed to do that):

We Shall Over Come - Mahalia Jackson

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:35:14am

re: #11 Charles Johnson

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Sir John Barron  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:35:31am

re: #16 wrenchwench

The headline:

‘Breaking decorum’; I’m going to have to save that one. I’m not sure what for, but it sure doesn’t belong there.

See? Just not politically correct! Hah, shut up libtards with your PC!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:36:17am

He hasn’t got a clue what DACA is all about. For some reason he believes that Dreamers have nothing to do with DACA.

He. Is. A. Moron.

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Targetpractice  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:36:31am

re: #16 wrenchwench

The headline:

‘Breaking decorum’; I’m going to have to save that one. I’m not sure what for, but it sure doesn’t belong there.

“Breaking decorum” is newspeak for “Saying shit nobody in their right mind would normally say aloud.” It’s the sort of shit that the “liberal” media has been reduced to in order to make the man’s presidency look less of a shitshow, arguing that a president who doesn’t know how to avoid saying stupid shit is actually a “good” thing.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:37:06am
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goddamnedfrank  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:37:12am

If you have a lot of free time on your hands I highly recommend reading Oliver Willis’ work-in-progress Twitter novel thread. Shit’s hilarious.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:37:30am

re: #4 Dr Lizardo

Yep. Let’s get it out there in the open.

Sunlight is the best disinfectant, as they say.

Except for algae infestations.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:38:06am

re: #6 HappyWarrior

I think there’s nothing he can do that will alienate his supporters based on what I’m seeing.

Trump’s base is basically a political version of Jim Jones’ Peoples Temple. They’re a lost cause; they’re so far gone it’s impossible to reach them.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:38:31am

The excuse is he says what no one in politics is willing to say? Yet he tries to deny it when called out on it. He’s a coward and his supporters are even worse since they just accept everything he says and revel in the bigotry. Fuck them.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:38:56am

re: #11 Charles Johnson

“But if I did say anything derogatory it was only to MAGA.”

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:39:00am

re: #25 Dr Lizardo

Trump’s base is basically a political version of Jim Jones’ Peoples Temple. They’re a lost cause; they’re so far gone it’s impossible to reach them.

So true.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:39:17am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:39:31am

re: #22 Joe Bacon 🌹

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She’s so fucking stupid.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:39:51am

re: #22 Joe Bacon 🌹

The thing is, their citizens mostly DO stay there. Only a small percentage of any population comes here. America was populated by the ones who left, not the ones who didn’t.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:39:59am

re: #30 HappyWarrior

She’s so fucking stupid.

Who? Dana mah Gunz?

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Kragar  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:40:24am
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mmmirele  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:40:41am

re: #2 HappyWarrior

Iirc Durbin mentioned that using chain migration was a hurtful term to the AA community given how most AA families arrived and Trumps response was that he liked that and wanted to go with it.

FUUUUUUU I just realized what that means. I am never going to understand the African-American experience in the USA.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:40:47am

re: #26 HappyWarrior

The excuse is he says what no one in politics is willing to say? Yet he tries to deny it when called out on it. He’s a coward and his supporters are even worse since they just accept everything he says and revel in the bigotry. Fuck them.

“He’s so brave and Truthy to say the things no one else will say except he didn’t say them Fake news libs.”

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:41:00am

This is both nuts and totally expected. Probably a lie per utterance:

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Belafon  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:41:24am

re: #11 Charles Johnson

You deny saying things we have recordings of, and your cult following goes along with it. How would that actually help?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:41:37am

re: #32 Sir John Barron

Who? Dana mah Gunz?

Tomi “Millenial Coulter@ Lehren

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Sir John Barron  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:41:40am

re: #36 Barefoot Grin

This is both nuts and totally expected. Probably a lie per utterance:

with all the other nuttiness yesterday this slipped under the radar.

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:42:44am

Again? The yam is always lying.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:42:51am

I believe this practice is more common than you think.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:43:27am

re: #34 mmmirele

FUUUUUUU I just realized what that means. I am never going to understand the African-American experience in the USA.

Me neither. It’s why I hate it when other people who like me of Irish descent pull “Well the Irish has it hard too.” Yeah and we never worried about what would happen if we didn’t say sir to a WASP either.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:43:38am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:43:49am

re: #41 Dave In Austin

I believe this practice is more common than you think.

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Brings new meaning to ‘Dearly De-Parted’.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:44:14am

re: #44 Blind Frog Belly White

“Parting (out) is such sweet sorrow….”

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Kragar  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:44:38am

re: #22 Joe Bacon 🌹

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:44:57am

re: #31 Blind Frog Belly White

The thing is, their citizens mostly DO stay there. Only a small percentage of any population comes here. America was populated by the ones who left, not the ones who didn’t.

Yep. Most of my family in Slovenia is still there. Have others in Germany, Ireland, & Slovakia too.

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ObserverArt  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:44:59am

re: #3 A Mom Anon

Part of the reason Trump is the way he is has a LOT to do with being protected his whole life from any consequences of his actions. I’m glad Senator Durbin spoke up, but unless he’s willing to say out loud and on the record what was actually said, he’s not helping the bigger issue. If you’re going to say he said more than that then SAY WHAT IT IS or don’t add that to your statement.

I understand, but he would just be called a lying Democrat anyway.

I think in this case it is just best to let the Republicans eat their own and rot from the inside. The best damage they can do is to themselves. This way they have no excuses other than their own.

And without Democrats weighing in, it makes it clear to everyone who is playing ‘politics’ with the issue on race and immigration.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:45:05am

re: #45 Blind Frog Belly White

“Parting (out) is such sweet sorrow….”

LOL!!

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A Mom Anon  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:45:57am

re: #24 Blind Frog Belly White

Yeah but it works good on all kinds of mold and mildew, so it kinda evens out….

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:46:17am

re: #46 Kragar

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If I were an asshole, I’d say that jury made a mistake but I doubt all of Tomi’s second great grandfather’s descendants are as awful as she is.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:46:26am

re: #6 HappyWarrior

I think there’s nothing he can do that will alienate his supporters based on what I’m seeing.

That would be the 27% crazification factor that exists no matter who the Republican is.

We need to reach the apathists who don’t vote, not the wingnuts who would vote for R-Beelzebub.

My brother-in-law tried to use the cynical “both parties are the same” issue with me (surprise he didn’t vote), claiming as evidence how corrupt the Texas Lege is.

I pointed out that Texas is not a red state, nor a corrupt state, it is a non-voting state, and that attitude is precisely the problem.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:47:10am

re: #41 Dave In Austin

I believe this practice is more common than you think.

Let James O’Keefe know, maybe they can send someone undercover.

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petesh  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:48:42am

re: #40 Romantic Heretic

Again? The yam is always lying.

I think this obvious truth is percolating into the consciousness of even many of his supporters. He’s a bullshit artist. Some of them may say, so what, it’s just “honest hyperbole” and keep pressing the button, but slowly the core is shrinking. “He’s a liar like the rest of them” (or something like) was a quote I saw recently.

I am not a crazy person. :-)

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:48:48am

re: #52 Anymouse 🌹

That would be the 27% crazification factor that exists no matter who the Republican is.

We need to reach the apathists who don’t vote, not the wingnuts who would vote for R-Beelzebub.

My brother-in-law tried to use the cynical “both parties are the same” issue with me (surprise he didn’t vote), claiming as evidence how corrupt the Texas Lege is.

I pointed out that Texas is not a red state, nor a corrupt state, it is a non-voting state, and that attitude is precisely the problem.

I agree. If I were younger and had more time, I’d seriously consider going to Texas to campaign for Beto.

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wrenchwench  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:48:59am

re: #53 Sir John Barron

Let James O’Keefe know, maybe they can send someone undercover.

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Send him in on a slab and see what happens.

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Kragar  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:49:18am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:50:27am

re: #57 Kragar

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Hey look it’s a brother and sister couple. Oh you don’t like that? Well follow your own shurt’s advice.

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ObserverArt  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:50:39am

re: #17 Anymouse 🌹

Crap I posted the same thing on the dead last thread twice.

[[[Observer Art]]]

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Thanks ‘mouse. I saw your comment on the last thread. It is never easy losing a real close friend that understands too early. Friends from the 5th grade on.

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A Mom Anon  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:51:30am

re: #59 ObserverArt

That stinks OA, I’m sorry about the loss of your friend.

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Kragar  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:51:52am

re: #58 HappyWarrior

Hey look it’s a brother and sister couple. Oh you don’t like that? Well follow your own shurt’s advice.

Family reunions are a great place to meet women. You’ve already got something in common.
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:52:28am

re: #58 HappyWarrior

Hey look it’s a brother and sister couple. Oh you don’t like that? Well follow your own shurt’s advice.

To be fair, when we were all in college together, people who didn’t know us well thought the future Mrs. FBW was my sister, and my sister was my girlfriend, because Mrs. FBW looks more like me, to a casual observer.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:53:03am

re: #54 petesh

I think this obvious truth is percolating into the consciousness of even many of his supporters. He’s a bullshit artist. Some of them may say, so what, it’s just “honest hyperbole” and keep pressing the button, but slowly the core is shrinking. “He’s a liar like the rest of them” (or something like) was a quote I saw recently.

I am not a crazy person. :-)

A few seems to see that. Voting for a compulsive liar seemed like a poor choice when they said they were tired of politicians lying to them, but most seem to think lying is “telling it like it is”.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:53:46am

re: #55 HappyWarrior

I agree. If I were younger and had more time, I’d seriously consider going to Texas to campaign for Beto.

Like if you were an embryo?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:54:04am

re: #62 Blind Frog Belly White

To be fair, when we were all in college together, people who didn’t know us well thought the future Mrs. FBW was my sister, and my sister was my girlfriend, because Mrs. FBW looks more like me, to a casual observer.

I just felt like being mean. I don’t think they actually look like siblings but more mocking the fuck your feelings mindset from the coffee cub criers.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:54:51am

re: #64 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Like if you were an embryo?

I’m 30 and employed. Plus we have our own senate election here.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:55:54am

Why do people do this?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:56:33am

re: #66 HappyWarrior

I’m 30 and employed. Plus we have our own senate election here.

You’re still the baby of the LGF family. ;>

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BeachDem  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:57:12am

re: #7 jaunte

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Heh

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:57:32am

re: #67 goddamnedfrank

Why do people do this?

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I like it when people don’t read stories. There’s a story about John McEnroe confronting a homophobic former tennis player and people are getting mad T him.

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ObserverArt  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:57:38am

re: #33 Kragar

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Mike Pence still gives Donald those loving looks.

Or, is he sizing up what it would be like if it were him standing there making the declarations?

Sorry Mikey. You smell of the shit stink too. Wear it well. Looks good on you too.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:58:26am

re: #68 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

You’re still the baby of the LGF family. ;>

Am I? I guess I am now.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:58:32am

re: #65 HappyWarrior

I just felt like being mean. I don’t think they actually look like siblings but more mocking the fuck your feelings mindset from the coffee cub criers.

For all we know, they’re from Cousinfuck, WV.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:59:26am

re: #72 HappyWarrior

Am I? I guess I am now.

I’m 51, and I think I’m somewhere in the middle age-wise.

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ObserverArt  Jan 12, 2018 • 11:59:52am

re: #38 HappyWarrior

Tomi “Millenial Coulter@ Lehren

Wait! I thought all the Millenials were cool and taking it to those boomers.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:00:40pm

re: #75 ObserverArt

Wait! I thought all the Millenials were cool and taking it to those boomers.

Hey now I never said that.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:01:19pm

re: #74 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I’m 51, and I think I’m somewhere in the middle age-wise.

I think I am actually since Watson isn’t posting anymore and Ziggy got banned.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:01:32pm

re: #73 Blind Frog Belly White

For all we know, they’re from Cousinfuck, WV.

Ha!

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:02:03pm

re: #75 ObserverArt

Wait! I thought all the Millenials were cool and taking it to those boomers.

Gen X is in the Goldilocks Zone for coolness.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:03:22pm

re: #77 HappyWarrior

I think I am actually since Watson isn’t posting anymore and Ziggy got banned.

I hope that doesn’t mean that everyone younger than 30 is a gamergate-based alt-righter now.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:04:00pm

re: #79 goddamnedfrank

Gen X is in the Goldilocks Zone for coolness.

Heh I actually have more Gen Xer cousins than I do fellow millennial s.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:04:13pm

re: #23 goddamnedfrank

If you have a lot of free time on your hands I highly recommend reading Oliver Willis’ work-in-progress Twitter novel thread. Shit’s hilarious.

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I’m reading it. It’s really good.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:04:52pm

re: #80 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I hope that doesn’t mean that everyone younger than 30 is a gamergate-based alt-righter now.

Nah. I was just surprised that I’m the youngest.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:04:55pm

re: #81 HappyWarrior

Heh I actually have more Gen Xer cousins than I do fellow millennial s.

Hey, I’m just happy I’m not the oldest one here.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:05:09pm

re: #82 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I’m reading it. It’s really good.

I know, right! I really hope it gets turned into a graphic novel or something.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:05:53pm

re: #84 Blind Frog Belly White

Hey, I’m just happy I’m not the oldest one here.

We have a WWII vet that sometimes post iirc.

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BeachDem  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:06:00pm

re: #20 Backwoods_Sleuth

He hasn’t got a clue what DACA is all about. For some reason he believes that Dreamers have nothing to do with DACA.

He. Is. A. Moron.

You. Are. Correct.

The fact that he said he wants American kids to be Dreamers too shows he doesn’t have clue fucking one.

…There’s a lot of - there’s a lot of - there’s a big difference - first of all, there’s a big difference between DACA and Dreamers, OK?

Dreamers are different. And I want American kids to be Dreamers also, by the way. I want American kids to be Dreamers also.

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ObserverArt  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:07:15pm

re: #76 HappyWarrior

Hey now I never said that.

Didn’t say you did. I was thinking of someone else.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:07:38pm

re: #59 ObserverArt

Thanks ‘mouse. I saw your comment on the last thread. It is never easy losing a real close friend that understands too early. Friends from the 5th grade on.

I don’t have friends from my childhood days … occasionally I wonder what that might be like. The people in my final high school despised me.

Mine are from my time in the Navy. There are shipmates who I remain in personal contact with to this day.

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BeachDem  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:08:20pm

re: #33 Kragar

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Well, I know I’m going to an MLK breakfast and then probably to the parade and maybe the film festival—my guess is the yam will play golf.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:08:46pm

re: #88 ObserverArt

Didn’t say you did. I was thinking of someone else.

I know. Was just playing.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:08:47pm

Mr. Johnson:

My wife just sent a PayPal payment to you to renew my subscription for the year. (I cannot use PayPal because of some foul up on their end that rejects my E-mail address.)

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A Cranky One  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:09:12pm

When you are a tiny doggy and it’s cold, it’s always nice to have pack-mates that keep you warm.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:12:34pm
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KGxvi  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:12:35pm

The obvious follow up to Trump’s tweet (and I apologize if someone else already mentioned this) is:

So, Mr. President, what did you say?

He’s managed to corner himself with this stupid denial.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:14:08pm

re: #81 HappyWarrior

Heh I actually have more Gen Xer cousins than I do fellow millennial s.

If you cut off the baby boom generation at 1960, then all my cousins and my sister are generation x.

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Kragar  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:15:22pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:16:11pm

re: #87 BeachDem

I want American kids to be Dreamers also.

yep…let every American kid worry about ICE showing up out of nowhere and deporting you to a country you’ve never been to…

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KGxvi  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:16:33pm

re: #96 Anymouse 🌹

If you cut off the baby boom generation at 1960, then all my cousins and my sister are generation x.

There really isn’t a clear line you can draw on generations. I was born in ‘78, my sister in ‘80. Depending on what you read, we’re either both GenXers, both millennial or I’m a GenXer and she’s a millennial. I’ve always considered myself more a GenXer than anything, even though I’m very much on the young side, I identify a lot more with the GenX culture touchstones than the millennial ones.

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KGxvi  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:17:44pm

re: #98 Backwoods_Sleuth

yep…let every American kid worry about ICE showing up out of nowhere and deporting you to a country you’ve never been to…

He’s listening to C+ Santa Monica Fascist, Steven Miller who wants citizenship only for those who can prove 3 of their 4 grandparents were natural born citizens. Everyone else is subject to deportation.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:19:45pm

re: #99 KGxvi

There really isn’t a clear line you can draw on generations. I was born in ‘78, my sister in ‘80. Depending on what you read, we’re either both GenXers, both millennial or I’m a GenXer and she’s a millennial. I’ve always considered myself more a GenXer than anything, even though I’m very much on the young side, I identify a lot more with the GenX culture touchstones than the millennial ones.

And even though my wife is only 6 months younger than I, because I was the youngest child, and she the oldest in our respective families, our experience of the 1960s was very different. My older brothers and sisters would talk about current events, so I paid attention. Mrs. FBW didn’t have that, so she paid less attention.

Funny how that works, but it’s true.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:19:48pm

re: #99 KGxvi

There really isn’t a clear line you can draw on generations. I was born in ‘78, my sister in ‘80. Depending on what you read, we’re either both GenXers, both millennial or I’m a GenXer and she’s a millennial. I’ve always considered myself more a GenXer than anything, even though I’m very much on the young side, I identify a lot more with the GenX culture touchstones than the millennial ones.

I’m not sure what cultural touchstones I identify with.

If I was old enough at the time, I would have been in the streets with Vietnam protesters myself.

I can’t really identify with my sister’s circle of friends and contacts (she is one of those “Hollywood Elites” [tm]).

I guess I don’t fit.

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petesh  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:20:22pm

re: #84 Blind Frog Belly White

Hey, I’m just happy I’m not the oldest one here.

Anyone around older than 68.95? I hit my oo-er-naughty b’day shortly.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:21:32pm

re: #97 Kragar

Hmmm……given Trump’s pretty wild younger days as a lad-about-town at Studio 54 back in the 1970’s, I’m gonna go out on a limb and guess it’s some from the Golden Age of Porn.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:22:13pm

re: #100 KGxvi

He’s listening to C+ Santa Monica Fascist, Steven Miller who wants citizenship only for those who can prove 3 of their 4 grandparents were natural born citizens. Everyone else is subject to deportation.

jeebus…that means the entire Trump clan needs to leave posthaste.

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BeachDem  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:22:37pm

re: #100 KGxvi

He’s listening to C+ Santa Monica Fascist, Steven Miller who wants citizenship only for those who can prove 3 of their 4 grandparents were natural born citizens. Everyone else is subject to deportation.

I think it’s even simpler than that—he doesn’t know what DACA is and he’s heard the word dreamer before, so he went with it.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:23:00pm

re: #103 petesh

Happy Birthday!
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KGxvi  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:23:48pm

re: #105 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus…that means the entire Trump clan needs to leave posthaste.

You know… I’d be willing to consider moving to Cuba (and agitating for change there) if it meant those who were left here got rid of the Trumps. But I’m not sure Merkel would take them back.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:24:18pm
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Belafon  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:24:19pm

re: #106 BeachDem

I think it’s even simpler than that—he doesn’t know what DACA is and he’s heard the word dreamer before, so he went with it.

Actually, it sounds like some obfuscation Republicans are known for, similar to “death tax”.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:24:19pm

re: #106 BeachDem

I think it’s even simpler than that—he doesn’t know what DACA is and he’s heard the word dreamer before, so he went with it.

and he has no idea who the Dreamers are…his definition is entirely different.

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BeachDem  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:24:36pm

re: #103 petesh

Anyone around older than 68.95? I hit my oo-er-naughty b’day shortly.

Raises hand quietly. (And I think there are two who are older than I am.)

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Belafon  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:24:49pm

re: #109 goddamnedfrank

An American woman of Korean descent.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:24:49pm

re: #101 Blind Frog Belly White

And even though my wife is only 6 months younger than I, because I was the youngest child, and she the oldest in our respective families, our experience of the 1960s was very different. My older brothers and sisters would talk about current events, so I paid attention. Mrs. FBW didn’t have that, so she paid less attention.

Funny how that works, but it’s true.

Yup. My eldest cousin is eleven months younger than me, so she’s a Gen X and I’m a Baby Boomer. I don’t see a whole lot of difference between us and she was my closest friend growing up.

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KGxvi  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:24:54pm

re: #106 BeachDem

I think it’s even simpler than that—he doesn’t know what DACA is and he’s heard the word dreamer before, so he went with it.

Listening to PSA this morning, they were suggesting that everytime they’ve gotten close to a deal on DACA, Miller throws some stupid poison bill into negotiations to blow it up. That fucker needs to take an extended walk off the Santa Monica pier.

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danarchy  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:25:33pm

re: #104 Dr Lizardo

Hmmm……given Trump’s pretty wild younger days as a lad-about-town at Studio 54 back in the 1970’s, I’m gonna go out on a limb and guess it’s some from the Golden Age of Porn.

Wasn’t there something about him offering Jessica Drake money to spend the night with him.

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Cheechako  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:25:34pm

re: #103 petesh

Anyone around older than 68.95? I hit my oo-er-naughty b’day shortly.

Yep….get off my lawn you young whipper-snapper!

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:26:43pm

I always saw Gen Xers at earliest as people who would have graduated HS in Reagan’s presidency.

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petesh  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:27:53pm

re: #112 BeachDem

Raises hand quietly. (And I think there are two who are older than I am.)

Praise be!

Of course, you are only as old as you feel, which in my case varies from 18 30 45 55 to about 92.

And thanks to Anymouse for the cake, to which forward I look!

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:28:38pm

re: #116 danarchy

Wasn’t there something about him offering Jessica Drake money to spend the night wit h him.

Yeah, you’re right…..I’d forgotten about that. He offered her ten grand or something like that.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:28:47pm

re: #109 goddamnedfrank

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She’s not actually even a Korean woman. She’s a woman whose parents are from Korea. But she LOOKS right, to Trump.

But he’s not racist.
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Kragar  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:28:47pm

re: #104 Dr Lizardo

Hmmm……given Trump’s pretty wild younger days as a lad-about-town at Studio 54 back in the 1970’s, I’m gonna go out on a limb and guess it’s some from the Golden Age of Porn.

2006, the year after he married Melania.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:29:03pm

re: #118 HappyWarrior

I always saw Gen Xers at earliest as people who would have graduated HS in Reagan’s presidency.

I don’t have that stain then, since I graduated during President Carter’s presidency.

I dodged a bullet there.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:29:06pm

re: #118 HappyWarrior

I always saw Gen Xers at earliest as people who would have graduated HS in Reagan’s presidency.

Yep…..I was born in 1969 and graduated HS in 1987.

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KGxvi  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:29:08pm

For me the real generational split between GenXers and millennials is two fold:

1. do you actually remember life before the internet?

2. do you actually remember 9/11?

That’s a nice 5-7 year window for tweeners.

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BeachDem  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:29:20pm

re: #115 KGxvi

Listening to PSA this morning, they were suggesting that everytime they’ve gotten close to a deal on DACA, Miller throws some stupid poison bill into negotiations to blow it up. That fucker needs to take an extended walk off the Santa Monica pier.

Oh—Miller is definitely trying to screw everything up (he is revolting—but I do love that, while many of the yammies talk about his brilliance, Bannon referred to him as “my typist.”) I just don’t think Trump has a fucking clue about DACA, but likes the sound of the word dreamers.

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ObserverArt  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:29:30pm

And it is now 34° and the “pink zone” of icy rain is now over Columbus. I hope this passes fast!

re: #105 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus…that means the entire Trump clan needs to leave posthaste.

Stephen can make exceptions…

The Miller Mark of Evil
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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:29:55pm

So I’m seeing the argument that hurr hurr Trump basically invalidated the left’s argument about illegal immigration and that illegals need to go back because leftists say those countries are beautiful. First off, there are illegals from Western countries. NRO’s John Derbyshire was an illegal from the UK. There are plenty of legal residents from countries including Haiti and El Salvador that Trump called shitholes. Sigh makes me sick to see one of my own friends parroting this shit. I’ve lost so much respect for him.

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KGxvi  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:30:15pm

re: #109 goddamnedfrank

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Jesus fucking Christ…

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Kragar  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:31:25pm

The Wall Street Journal reported that Michael Cohen, an attorney for the Trump Organization, arranged for Stephanie Clifford, known in the industry as Stormy Daniels, to receive $130,000 as part of a nondisclosure agreement one month before the 2016 election.

Clifford has privately alleged that she and Trump had a consensual sexual encounter in 2006, the year after he and Melania Trump were married.

You don’t pay off someone with $130k for something that didn’t happen.

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petesh  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:31:41pm

re: #104 Dr Lizardo

Hmmm……given Trump’s pretty wild younger days as a lad-about-town at Studio 54 back in the 1970’s, I’m gonna go out on a limb and guess it’s some from the Golden Age of Porn.

The WSJ link has details: 2006 & she got paid (or not) $130,000.

ETA: Ah, others have said so. Bears repeating, I guess. :-)

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:33:00pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:33:33pm

re: #130 Kragar

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You don’t pay off someone with $130k for something that didn’t happen.

Paging the religious right, you’d go apeshit if this was Clinton or Obama.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:33:40pm

re: #130 Kragar

Ahhh…..I’ve never heard about “Stormy”.

I guess that must’ve flown under the radar.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:33:52pm

re: #112 BeachDem

Raises hand quietly. (And I think there are two who are older than I am.)

Semper Fi and DD.

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BlueSpotinAL  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:34:18pm

re: #116 danarchy

Wasn’t there something about him offering Jessica Drake money to spend the night with him.

The scene in Star Wars with Leia chained to Jabba, extending his gross tongue all over her, was what first came to mind when reading this.

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Citizen K  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:34:19pm

re: #7 jaunte

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Belafon  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:34:35pm

re: #134 Dr Lizardo

Ahhh…..I’ve never heard about “Stormy”.

I guess that must’ve flown under the radar.

Under the sheets.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:35:18pm

re: #123 Anymouse 🌹

I don’t have that stain then, since I graduated during President Carter’s presidency.

I dodged a bullet there.

Ford’s, for me. Jimmy Carter was the first President I voted for.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:35:22pm

re: #127 ObserverArt

And it is now 34° and the “pink zone” of icy rain is now over Columbus. I hope this passes fast!

Winter Storm Warning has been issued. Still just 35F and raining here.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:35:55pm

re: #137 Citizen K

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Well Donald, that’s why your sons are in charge of Czech-American relations. Oh wait.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:36:06pm

re: #134 Dr Lizardo

Ahhh…..I’ve never heard about “Stormy”.

I guess that must’ve flown under the radar.

LOL….her Wiki page has already been updated. Those Wiki editors are fast as lightning!

The Wall Street Journal reported that Clifford and President Donald Trump engaged had a consensual extra-martial affair in 2006, and that Clifford received $130,000 after signing a non-disclosure agreement in 2016.

That’s the quote from her Wiki bio.

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Jay C  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:36:55pm

re: #115 KGxvi

Listening to PSA this morning, they were suggesting that everytime they’ve gotten close to a deal on DACA, Miller throws some stupid poison bill into negotiations to blow it up. That fucker needs to take an extended walk off the Santa Monica pier.

Agreed about the advisability of that proposed jaunt for Mr. Miller, but it obfuscates the fact that if he is the WH’s go-to guy on immigration policy, it’s unlikely that much (positive) is ever going to get done. Even less than usual, unless “arrest and deport them all” is the fundamental policy target (and I’m sure that for Stephen Miller, it is)…

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Kragar  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:37:03pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:37:09pm

re: #124 Dr Lizardo

Yep…..I was born in 1969 and graduated HS in 1987.

Yep, you qualify.

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jaunte  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:37:34pm

“Secret payment to porn star by buffoonish racist.”

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:37:50pm

re: #123 Anymouse 🌹

I don’t have that stain then, since I graduated during President Carter’s presidency.

I dodged a bullet there.

You’re a year younger than my mom. I’d call you a late term boomer like she is. Not young enough to remember the JFK years but definitely Vietnam.

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Old Liberal  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:39:01pm

Not too long ago, thousands of immigrants left shithole locations to descend on the paradise known as western North Dakota. These worthless immigrants left shitholes Minnesota, Oklahoma, Louisiana, Texas, Michigan and other North American shithole states because they could make huge amount of money in a short period of time. These shithole refugees lived in campers, slept in cars, took shifts sleeping 12 to an apartment, they created no end to problems for the local people who had been there for generations. Employers were begging more shithole people to leave their shithole and live in the emerging shithole that was being created. I daresay that 99% of the immigrants went back to their shithole homes after they made bank. So let us again ask the question, why would shithole people leave their shithole home if it wasn’t a shithole?

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jaunte  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:40:18pm

It’s hard to get any work done around here without coming back to a fresh scandal breakout from the doofus.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:40:18pm

About Stormy Daniels, she’s a Gen X member. (Get off my lawn)

More information about her behind the privacy bar.

uE5pu99aklq+zXUFN5zgDqez7lc+dGJN3Ea5XYgIiu8uCoC/+15ukUrM64f2r23sOipwiTC8PKWpJujc+q09u7UcEIuCFg0g3s1tCvJSXwSH7+xRfLSBQA==

Why yes, I have to do research for my editing job and have a lot of strange Websites in my stable of bookmarks.

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wrenchwench  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:40:56pm

re: #146 jaunte

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“Secret payment to porn star by buffoonish racist.”

They broke decorum together.

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ObserverArt  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:40:59pm

re: #135 Backwoods_Sleuth

Semper Fi and DD.

Shiplord Kirel.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:41:05pm

re: #147 HappyWarrior

You’re a year younger than my mom. I’d call you a late term boomer like she is. Not young enough to remember the JFK years but definitely Vietnam.

Oh, definitely, I remember Vietnam (my avatar indicates that)

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jaunte  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:41:29pm

re: #151 wrenchwench

Decorum is having a bad year.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:43:12pm

re: #153 Anymouse 🌹

Oh, definitely, I remember Vietnam (my avatar indicates that)

Yeah I know you do. So sorry for what your family went through. I can’t imagine. My Dad’s brother served during the era but he was stationed in Germany.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:43:23pm

re: #152 ObserverArt

Shiplord Kirel.

I thought Shiplord was closer to my age. Then again, it’s all relative once we pass a certain milestone.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:44:00pm

re: #103 petesh

Anyone around older than 68.95? I hit my oo-er-naughty b’day shortly.

Turned 70 last August and won first place in the professional disc golf world championships in the old guys division a week before!

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ObserverArt  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:44:46pm

Just did a Google image search on one Stormy Daniels.

Trump has a type. I’ll leave it at that.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:45:06pm
“If the country they came from wasn’t a shithole, why would they be immigrating here?”

Moctezuma II of the Mexica

“If the country they came from wasn’t a shithole, why would they be immigrating here?”

Wahunsunacawh of the Powhatan

“If the country they came from wasn’t a shithole, why would they be immigrating here?”

Maȟpíya Lúta of the Oglala Lakota

“If the country they came from wasn’t a shithole, why would they be immigrating here?”

Hinmatóowyalahtq̓it of the Wallowa Nez Perce

“If the country they came from wasn’t a shithole, why would they be immigrating here?”

Goyaałé of Chiricahua Apache

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:45:18pm

Stormy Daniels also ran against David Vitter in Louisiana, but after her campaign manager’s car was blown up with a car bomb, she dropped out of the race. She ran on a campaign of child protection, promoting women in business, and the economy.

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jaunte  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:46:34pm

re: #158 ObserverArt

Just did a Google image search on one Stormy Daniels.

Trump has a type. I’ll leave it at that.

Norwegian?

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lawhawk  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:46:52pm

re: #116 danarchy

Yes. Among others.

This is just more proof that Trump is a misogynist who thinks he can get away with anything he wants.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:47:00pm

As I said earlier, it’s not the shithole comment that bothers me so much as the making it clear he does not want people from those countries. Not to mention a lot of us including his supporters are descended from places that were considered shitholes or still might be.

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Jay C  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:47:34pm

re: #162 lawhawk

Yes. Among others.

This is just more proof that Trump is a misogynist who thinks he can get away with anything he wants.

Yeah: and he pretty much has, so far…….

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jaunte  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:49:34pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:49:44pm

re: #163 HappyWarrior

As I said earlier, it’s not the shithole comment that bothers me so much as the making it clear he does not want people from those countries. Not to mention a lot of us including his supporters are descended from places that were considered shitholes or still might be.

It’s the Conservatives that see it as people being upset that Trump said a “bad word”. It’s how their minds operate.

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BeachDem  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:50:07pm

re: #146 jaunte

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“Secret payment to porn star by buffoonish racist.”

The “secret payment to porn star” story is a masterful distraction from the “very racist” story

Well, the “great, peerless, incomparable” Peter Baker of the NYT is still contemplating Is Trump a racist? A question that only grows.

(And Maggie says it’s a must-read!!) Thanks, I’ll pass.

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Belafon  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:51:31pm

re: #167 BeachDem

The “secret payment to porn star” story is a masterful distraction from the “very racist” story

Well, the “great, peerless, incomparable” Peter Baker of the NYT is still contemplating Is Trump a racist? A question that only grows.

(And Maggie says it’s a must-read!!) Thanks, I’ll pass.

Until the point in 165.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:52:25pm

Stormy’s Twitter bio says she’s followed by Jesus Christ. Oh, and her account is now protected.

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plansbandc  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:52:56pm

I’m on the cusp of boomer and gen x.

My attitude is much more boomer.

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Kragar  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:53:06pm
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PhillyPretzel  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:53:53pm

re: #165 jaunte

Remember the TV series Dallas. JR would almost always ask Harv “get me the dirt on (fill in the blank)” Pity we cannot do that here.

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BeachDem  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:54:14pm

re: #156 Backwoods_Sleuth

I thought Shiplord was closer to my age. Then again, it’s all relative once we pass a certain milestone.

It’s Cheechako who’s the other golden oldie (and he and I grew up in adjoining towns, so there must have been something wonderful in the water!)

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:54:29pm

re: #103 petesh

Me!! I’m older. Happy Birthday soon!!

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:54:46pm

My wife just got back the message saying LGF has received her payment.

You lucky devils you get me for another year.

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Archangelus  Jan 12, 2018 • 12:58:21pm

re: #99 KGxvi

There really isn’t a clear line you can draw on generations. I was born in ‘78, my sister in ‘80. Depending on what you read, we’re either both GenXers, both millennial or I’m a GenXer and she’s a millennial. I’ve always considered myself more a GenXer than anything, even though I’m very much on the young side, I identify a lot more with the GenX culture touchstones than the millennial ones.

In the same proverbial boat (‘81). Sometimes felt and often told i’m too young to be GenX and too mature to qualify as a millennial. I’ve come to prefer being categorized as part of Oregon Trail Generation…
Wikipedia: Generation Oregon Trail

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ObserverArt  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:03:47pm

Just turned on Nicole Wallace…and Dick Durbin is saying Trump used “shithole” many times.

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petesh  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:04:34pm

re: #174 Hecuba’s daughter

Me!! I’m older. Happy Birthday soon!!

You make me feel so young
You make me feel there are songs to be sung
Bells to be rung and a wonderful fling to be flung

[Great rhymes in that; my fave: grin / happy in/dividual]

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John Carter  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:05:20pm

re: #184 ObserverArt

I’m a boomer. Charles the site owner is too. Many here are. You just dumped on the lot of us. Piss the hell off with your generalization.

You know this is pretty typical and illustrates my point nicely. I would love to debate how much damage the boomers have done but what happens is there are so many of them that they call in reinforcements like you see above.

Dispute what I said, Boomers are in charge of almost everything and this crap we are going through is because of that generation. The GI’s set you up nicely and you got to work almost your entire careers at one place with strong unions and infrastructure and schools. What happened as they assumed power from the GI’s?

Let me ask you OA, do you think the Beatles are a good band? I think they are so so but they will go down as one of the “best ever” because so many of the boomers cut their teeth on them. You see folks in your generation have lived in a bubble when it comes to things like that. X-ers are too small to challenge them. That is why I love Millenials, they don’t take any shit and they are just as big. The Millenials will win in the end because they are the new generation so the reaction of the boomers to them cracks me up.

Yes it is a generalization, generations have personalities. I like a heck of a lot of boomers, just collectively they have done a lot of damage.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:06:09pm

Back in local news:

Nebraska Higher Ed Leaders Cringe Over New Proposed Cuts That would Make It Difficult to Remain Affordable (goes to the Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald)

It looks like my governor (R-Hedge Fund) due to our budget shortfalls, wants to cut his way to prosperity. He proposes cuts to the state higher education system.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:07:08pm

re: #179 John Carter

You know this is pretty typical and illustrates my point nicely. I would love to debate how much damage the boomers have done but what happens is there are so many of them that they call in reinforcements like you see above.

Dispute what I said, Boomers are in charge of almost everything and this crap we are going through is because of that generation. The GI’s set you up nicely and you got to work almost your entire careers at one place with strong unions and infrastructure and schools. What happened as they assumed power from the GI’s?

Let me ask you OA, do you think the Beatles are a good band? I think they are so so but they will go down as one of the “best ever” because so many of the boomers cut their teeth on them. You see folks in your generation have lived in a bubble when it comes to things like that. X-ers are too small to challenge them. That is why I love Millenials, they don’t take any shit and they are just as big. The Millenials will win in the end because they are the new generation so the reaction of the boomers to them cracks me up.

Yes it is a generalization, generations have personalities. I like a heck of a lot of boomers, just collectively they have done a lot of damage.

Oh, bite me.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:07:34pm

re: #166 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

It’s the Conservatives that see it as people being upset that Trump said a “bad word”. It’s how their minds operate.

Yeah which is clown shit.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:08:01pm

re: #180 Anymouse 🌹

That stinks. Balance the budget on the back of education.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:09:38pm

re: #182 HappyWarrior

clown shit

You win.

That’s going in the personal lexicon.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:10:34pm

re: #184 The Ghost of a Flea

You win.

That’s going in the personal lexicon.

Feel free. I like fuckwit too.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:11:19pm

re: #183 PhillyPretzel

That stinks. Balance the budget on the back of education.

It’s what modem conservatives do time and time again. They never met an education cut they didn’t like.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:12:13pm

re: #185 HappyWarrior

Feel free. I like fuckwit too.

I always think it sounds like something a mobster would say, like “Don’t fuckwit me, and I won’t fuckwit you.”

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John Carter  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:12:48pm

re: #181 Blind Frog Belly White

Oh, bite me.

I will take that as an indication you have no rebuttal. I am sure of the zillions of boomers around here I will be shouted down any moment. Volume makes right.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:13:49pm

re: #179 John Carter

You know this is pretty typical and illustrates my point nicely. I would love to debate how much damage the boomers have done but what happens is there are so many of them that they call in reinforcements like you see above.

Dispute what I said, Boomers are in charge of almost everything and this crap we are going through is because of that generation. The GI’s set you up nicely and you got to work almost your entire careers at one place with strong unions and infrastructure and schools. What happened as they assumed power from the GI’s?

Let me ask you OA, do you think the Beatles are a good band? I think they are so so but they will go down as one of the “best ever” because so many of the boomers cut their teeth on them. You see folks in your generation have lived in a bubble when it comes to things like that. X-ers are too small to challenge them. That is why I love Millenials, they don’t take any shit and they are just as big. The Millenials will win in the end because they are the new generation so the reaction of the boomers to them cracks me up.

Yes it is a generalization, generations have personalities. I like a heck of a lot of boomers, just collectively they have done a lot of damage.

I would love to debate all the damage done by Gen X deciding “both sides are equally evil” and staying home from the polls in droves but there’s not enough space for that.

I despise the Beatles. Will the band go down as one of the “best ever?” Well, if commercial appeal at the time is any indication, they probably should.

All those Boomer you are so on about “in charge of everything” include most or all of the Democratic elected officials trying to push back against this crap. Let’s throw them all out. Heck, I’ll go first, because there are Gen Xers lined up around the block to run for my seat (crickets … they aren’t interested in even local government here).

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Archangelus  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:14:23pm

Been catching up on news since returning from a date - when & where the heck did all this porn star hush money stuff come from? I go away for just a few hours…
Is the media still dealing with SCROTUS’s horrible remarks? Or are we past that now?
Starting to get hard to tell…

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dangerman  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:14:41pm

re: #94 Blind Frog Belly White

If you think the problem is serious — and you should — then that’s fine. But if you think it’s not, then any cost is unacceptable.

hijacked and o/t -

see: guns and the 2A

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ObserverArt  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:15:07pm

re: #179 John Carter

You know this is pretty typical and illustrates my point nicely. I would love to debate how much damage the boomers have done but what happens is there are so many of them that they call in reinforcements like you see above.

Dispute what I said, Boomers are in charge of almost everything and this crap we are going through is because of that generation. The GI’s set you up nicely and you got to work almost your entire careers at one place with strong unions and infrastructure and schools. What happened as they assumed power from the GI’s?

Let me ask you OA, do you think the Beatles are a good band? I think they are so so but they will go down as one of the “best ever” because so many of the boomers cut their teeth on them. You see folks in your generation have lived in a bubble when it comes to things like that. X-ers are too small to challenge them. That is why I love Millenials, they don’t take any shit and they are just as big. The Millenials will win in the end because they are the new generation so the reaction of the boomers to them cracks me up.

Yes it is a generalization, generations have personalities. I like a heck of a lot of boomers, just collectively they have done a lot of damage.

You should see my CD collection. Bands/music from all eras. I listen to many younger bands because I don’t hold on to the past.

You want something that stupid to be proof?

Outside that. I don’t care to respond further. I said all I need to say earlier. You have some big realizations coming with your attitude. Good luck.

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whitebeach  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:15:36pm

re: #6 HappyWarrior

I think there’s nothing he can do that will alienate his supporters based on what I’m seeing.

Well, dead girl or live boy in the bed is still the standard, but with this asshole and his cult followers, probably even both at once wouldn’t do the trick. I wouldn’t take a bet on it at less than three to one.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:15:55pm

re: #187 Blind Frog Belly White

I always think it sounds like something a mobster would say, like “Don’t fuckwit me, and I won’t fuckwit you.”

I use it as a noun. Basically a fuckwit is my way of calling someone a dumb shit.

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Belafon  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:16:55pm

re: #179 John Carter

You know this is pretty typical and illustrates my point nicely. I would love to debate how much damage the boomers have done but what happens is there are so many of them that they call in reinforcements like you see above.

Dispute what I said, Boomers are in charge of almost everything and this crap we are going through is because of that generation. The GI’s set you up nicely and you got to work almost your entire careers at one place with strong unions and infrastructure and schools. What happened as they assumed power from the GI’s?

Let me ask you OA, do you think the Beatles are a good band? I think they are so so but they will go down as one of the “best ever” because so many of the boomers cut their teeth on them. You see folks in your generation have lived in a bubble when it comes to things like that. X-ers are too small to challenge them. That is why I love Millenials, they don’t take any shit and they are just as big. The Millenials will win in the end because they are the new generation so the reaction of the boomers to them cracks me up.

Yes it is a generalization, generations have personalities. I like a heck of a lot of boomers, just collectively they have done a lot of damage.

I’m watching Millenials fuck things up as well. So, no, it’s not just Boomers.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:17:01pm

re: #193 whitebeach

Well, dead girl or live boy in the bed is still the standard, but with this asshole and his cult followers, probably even both at once wouldn’t do the trick. I wouldn’t take a bet on it at less than three to one.

Hillary did it too!

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dangerman  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:17:10pm

re: #109 goddamnedfrank

NBC: As a Korean woman was briefing trump on Pakistan, the president asked why the “pretty Korean lady” wasn’t negotiating peace w North Korea.

c’mon - cut him a break
it was early in the admin and he hadn’t got his sea legs yet

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:17:21pm

re: #188 John Carter

I will take that as an indication you have no rebuttal. I am sure of the zillions of boomers around here I will be shouted down any moment. Volume makes right.

You should take it as an indication that I think you’re full of shit, and full of yourself, and you should probably shouldn’t take yourself seriously, because nobody else does.

Boomers gave you the end of the Vietnam war, Feminism, and LGBT rights. Boomers prove the existence of climate change, gave you the internet and the smartphone.

You’re welcome.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:19:16pm

re: #194 HappyWarrior

I use it as a noun. Basically a fuckwit is my way of calling someone a dumb shit.

I know. It just sounds like a mobster verb, something Joe Pesci or Robert DeNiro would say.

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dangerman  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:19:24pm

re: #175 Anymouse 🌹

My wife just got back the message saying LGF has received her payment.

You lucky devils you get me for another year.

and if you do consider poland, lgf works there

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John Carter  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:19:52pm

re: #189 Anymouse 🌹

I would love to debate all the damage done by Gen X deciding “both sides are equally evil” and staying home from the polls in droves but there’s not enough space for that.

I despise the Beatles. Will the band go down as one of the “best ever?” Well, if commercial appeal at the time is any indication, they probably should.

All those Boomer you are so on about “in charge of everything” include most or all of the Democratic elected officials trying to push back against this crap. Let’s throw them all out. Heck, I’ll go first, because there are Gen Xers lined up around the block to run for my seat (crickets … they aren’t interested in even local government here).

Commercial appeal??? Right, because there are a lot of boomers and they buy records. Maybe U2 is better but they didn’t sell as many albums to X-ers. I wonder why that could be? Next.

As for politics, gee I wonder why there are no X-ers? You do realize you have been bashing my generation into submission collectively since the beginning? Do you think “X-er” was meant as a compliments? You have always been older, more abundant, more powerful etc. You generation mocked the X-ers and we would to small to do anything about it.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:20:49pm

re: #199 Blind Frog Belly White

I know. It just sounds like a mobster verb, something Joe Pesci or Robert DeNiro would say.

Yeah. I can hear Tommy DeVito or Jimmy The Gent saying it. Honestly it was originally a more pc version of Fucktard. I’m fond of douchenozzle too.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:21:22pm

re: #192 ObserverArt

You should see my CD collection. Bands/music from all eras. I listen to many younger bands because I don’t hold on to the past.

You want something that stupid to be proof?

Outside that. I don’t care to respond further. I said all I need to say earlier. You have some big realizations coming with your attitude. Good luck.

I have popular music in my collection from the 1920s to the present day. I don’t have The Beatles though.

My wife has trouble with me whipsawing between Emmylou Harris then Rasputina. (I saw Rasputina in concert once.)

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Kragar  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:21:41pm
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ObserverArt  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:22:40pm

re: #198 Blind Frog Belly White

You should take it as an indication that I think you’re full of shit, and full of yourself, and you should probably shouldn’t take yourself seriously, because nobody else does.

Boomers gave you the end of the Vietnam war, Feminism, and LGBT rights. Boomers prove the existence of climate change, gave you the internet and the smartphone.

You’re welcome.

You are not going to change a mind that is that closed. Sad, he doesn’t realize he is doing what he claims others have done to him.

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John Carter  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:22:52pm

re: #198 Blind Frog Belly White

You should take it as an indication that I think you’re full of shit, and full of yourself, and you should probably shouldn’t take yourself seriously, because nobody else does.

Boomers gave you the end of the Vietnam war, Feminism, and LGBT rights. Boomers prove the existence of climate change, gave you the internet and the smartphone.

You’re welcome.

Boomers are in charge and causing climate change right now. That is pretty thin resume for such a large generation with EVERYTHING handed to them.

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Archangelus  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:23:10pm

I keep telling myself ‘no more blind dates’, yet somehow folks I know keep suckering me into agreeing to the damned things…

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jaunte  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:23:21pm

re: #204 Kragar

“Trump issues parting omerta threat to examining physician.”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:24:00pm

re: #195 Belafon

I’m watching Millenials fuck things up as well. So, no, it’s not just Boomers.

This is what’s so stupid about dividing groups along unnatural lines:

“Boomers gave us Trump”, except that 44% of us voted for Clinton. And 37% of Millennials voted for Trump, not to mention the 8% that voted for someone other than Clinton.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:24:37pm

Why does someone become a Liberal? (Quora)

I was raised rather conservatively. My parents ran a family business and voted republican. As a teenager I helped on the Reagan campaign for governor. But I can tell you the exact day I became a full fledged, scream in your face, libtard - May 4, 1970.

Now if you are too young to know that day, I will tell you it is the day that the Nixon administration killed 4 students on the Kent State University campus for daring to protest the war in Vietnam.

(More at link)

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:24:56pm

re: #206 John Carter

Boomers are in charge and causing climate change right now. That is pretty thin resume for such a large generation with EVERYTHING handed to them.

I’m sure the electrons you’re pushing to post that are all free-range, organic electrons.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:25:31pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:26:13pm

re: #210 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Why does someone become a Liberal? (Quora)

(More at link)

I still see a lot of conservatives rationalize Kent State. What a terrible tragedy.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:27:02pm

re: #212 goddamnedfrank

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I really do appreciate the last year and change for waking me up to sexism.

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John Carter  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:27:59pm

re: #205 ObserverArt

You are not going to change a mind that is that closed. Sad, he doesn’t realize he is doing what he claims others have done to him.

You know what, screw you. This is probably the first time you learned about any of this. We tend not to engage since there is no point - volume makes right.

My mind is no the one that is closed, I have lived this and observed this my whole life. You probably never gave it a thought, right? I have had boomer friends of my parents apologize to me for the mess unsolicited.

You should read the 4th Turning, written by a boomer - he was not very generous to his own generation. Really, you should if you have such an open mind.

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ObserverArt  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:28:07pm

re: #213 HappyWarrior

I still see a lot of conservatives rationalize Kent State. What a terrible tragedy.

Boomers that had bullets handed to them.

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jaunte  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:29:01pm

Generational animus is as precise as racial animus.

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darthstar  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:29:14pm
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petesh  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:30:48pm

re: #179 John Carter

Sheesh, it was ever thus. Speaking as a classic Boomer, the generation before us, which had the fucking nerve to accept Brokaw’s tag of “The Greatest Generation” was born in poverty, worked their way to wealth and proceeded to shit on everyone who came after them. Back in ancient Rome, people were complaining about the kids today, who in turn moaned about the old farts in charge.

Yeah, I love the music of my adolescence, so what? As I have grown, my music tastes have extended, both forward and back (I now also appreciate both Sinatra and My Bloody Valentine, etc etc).

Be your age, whatever it is. That’s my main contribution to this somewhat absurd discussion.

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John Carter  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:30:52pm

re: #217 jaunte

Generational animus is as precise as racial animus.

I would tend to agree with that. However that negativity has come from boomers to xers from the beginning. I am just calling them on it and it touches a nerve they didn’t know they had.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:30:58pm

One wonders whether he’s as tiresome in person.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:31:12pm

re: #216 ObserverArt

Boomers that had bullets handed to them.

I don’t have a problem with Boomers.

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Archangelus  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:31:34pm

Great thread on Twitter by Seth Abramson

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:32:09pm

re: #198 Blind Frog Belly White

You should take it as an indication that I think you’re full of shit, and full of yourself, and you should probably shouldn’t take yourself seriously, because nobody else does.

Boomers gave you the end of the Vietnam war, Feminism, and LGBT rights. Boomers prove the existence of climate change, gave you the internet and the smartphone.

You’re welcome.

While Gen X and Millenials gave us Richard Spencer.

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jaunte  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:32:20pm

re: #223 Archangelus

Is that Trump’s mom?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:32:27pm

re: #220 John Carter

I would tend to agree with that. However that negativity has come from boomers to xers from the beginning. I am just calling them on it and it touches a nerve they didn’t know they had.

Ah. GenX. That explains it.
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John Carter  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:32:30pm

re: #222 HappyWarrior

I don’t have a problem with Boomers.

Sure Warrior, your generation can take care of itself. No chip needed.

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ObserverArt  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:33:42pm

re: #215 John Carter

You know what, screw you. This is probably the first time you learned about any of this. We tend not to engage since there is no point - volume makes right.

My mind is no the one that is closed, I have lived this and observed this my whole life. You probably never gave it a thought, right? I have had boomer friends of my parents apologize to me for the mess unsolicited.

You should read the 4th Turning, written by a boomer - he was not very generous to his own generation. Really, you should if you have such an open mind.

Do you realize how arrogant that statement about me learning all this the first time is?

That is why there is no reason to discuss. You have clearly stated your mind is made up. I based my comments on that and your generalizations.

And now you have gone to the point of speaking for me.

Do yourself a favor. Ignore me. Look at yourself. I’m only a boomer loser.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:34:07pm

Gen X gave us Alex Jones, Tomi Lahren, and Lauren Southen.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:34:50pm

re: #227 John Carter

Sure Warrior, your generation can take care of itself. No chip needed.

WTF dude, I just don’t have a problem with any generation as a whole. I have a problem with people. Some are boomers, some are millennial.

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Archangelus  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:35:11pm

re: #225 jaunte

Is that Trump’s mom?

Stormy Daniels, whom Trump allegedly paid $130000 in hush money…

I’m saying “allegedly” not because I doubt he would have done it - I don’t, not for a nanosecond - but because for all we know it might end up being another porn star (wouldn’t be the first time he did that either)…

Also, is it just me or does she really resemble Megyn Kelly?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:35:29pm

re: #229 Anymouse 🌹

Gen X gave us Alex Jones, Tomi Lahren, and Lauren Southen.

Tomi and Lauren are millennial not boomer. They’re in fact younger than I am.

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petesh  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:35:59pm

re: #229 Anymouse 🌹

Gen X gave us Alex Jones, Tomi Lahren, and Lauren Southen.

Um, every generation has its fuck-ups, fascists and general losers.

Every generation has its geniuses, in every field.

Well, except maybe drama because Shakespeare nailed down the all-time best. [Half kidding]

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John Carter  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:36:14pm

re: #230 HappyWarrior

WTF dude, I just don’t have a problem with any generation as a whole. I have a problem with people. Some are boomers, some are millennial.

You are right, I withdraw the comment. The point I was trying to make is you may have a somewhat different perspective given you are a millenial.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:36:23pm

Listen it’s simple. Some people from generations suck. Some people don’t. It’s that simple.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:36:48pm

Gen X gave us Representative Paul Ryan.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:37:30pm

re: #233 petesh

Um, every generation has its fuck-ups, fascists and general losers.

Every generation has its geniuses, in every field.

Well, except maybe drama because Shakespeare nailed down the all-time best. [Half kidding]

I agree. I’m just asserting that “Baby Boomers” aren’t the problem, jerks are. They come from all generations.

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Skip Intro  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:37:35pm

re: #204 Kragar

Trump Health Press Release: “If superman was human his name would be Donald Trump”.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:37:42pm

re: #234 John Carter

You are right, I withdraw the comment. The point I was trying to make is you may have a somewhat different perspective given you are a millenial.

It’s not because I’m a millennial, it’s how I view things.

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whitebeach  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:37:44pm

re: #112 BeachDem

Raises hand quietly. (And I think there are two who are older than I am.)

I resemble that remark. And cheechako’s got a couple of years on me.

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Archangelus  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:39:56pm

re: #231 Archangelus

Also, is it just me or does she really resemble Megyn Kelly?

Huh, guess it isn’t just me…

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:40:29pm

Listen. re: #237 Anymouse 🌹

I agree. I’m just asserting that “Baby Boomers” aren’t the problem, jerks are. They come from all generations.

Yep. The guy who killed those parents in NoVa was born the year I turned 13.

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dangerman  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:40:39pm

re: #209 Blind Frog Belly White

This is what’s so stupid about dividing groups along unnatural lines:

“Boomers gave us Trump”, except that 44% of us voted for Clinton. And 37% of Millennials voted for Trump, not to mention the 8% that voted for someone other than Clinton.

pigeonholing people by age, class, “race”, gender, politics, location, or any other way is a fools errand

broadbrushing is a fools errand

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:40:51pm

re: #241 Archangelus

Huh, guess it isn’t just me…

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Nope she does.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:41:50pm

People are people. Some suck. Some are cool. Some are in between. Papa Doc was an awful Haitian but he wasn’t awful because he’s Haitian.

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retired cynic  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:44:05pm

re: #62 Blind Frog Belly White

To be fair, when we were all in college together, people who didn’t know us well thought the future Mrs. FBW was my sister, and my sister was my girlfriend, because Mrs. FBW looks more like me, to a casual observer.

My brother and I didn’t look like each other at all, so when we were in college and he didn’t have a date, he didn’t mind taking me out dancing. Best dates I ever had!

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:44:08pm

re: #232 HappyWarrior

Tomi and Lauren are millennial not boomer. They’re in fact younger than I am.

They kind of fall between Generation X and Millenials. (1992 and 1995 respectively).

Mostly this generational naming seems to be more about dividing people by age rather than positions.

The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.—Socrates

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:44:33pm

re: #243 dangerman

pigeonholing people by age, class, “race”, gender, politics, location, or any other way is a fools errand

broadbrushing is a fools errand

All generalizations suck.

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Weaselone  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:44:49pm

re: #238 Skip Intro

Trump Health Press Release: “If superman was human his name would be Donald Trump”.

I’m thinking it would be more carefully worded. More like, “The President is in such incredible shape you wouldn’t believe it. I conducted the tests and I hardly believe it. His fitness is at such a level he’s barely human.

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BeachDem  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:45:01pm

re: #231 Archangelus

Stormy Daniels, whom Trump allegedly paid $130000 in hush money…

I’m saying “allegedly” not because I doubt he would have done it - I don’t, not for a nanosecond - but because for all we know it might end up being another porn star (wouldn’t be the first either)…

Also, is it just me or does she really resemble Megyn Kelly?

I think more Carrie Underwoodish.

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Kragar  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:45:44pm

re: #248 Blind Frog Belly White

All generalizations suck.

Only the Sith deal in absolutes!

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:46:03pm

re: #247 Anymouse 🌹

They kind of fall between Generation X and Millenials. (1992 and 1995 respectively).

Mostly this generational naming seems to be more about dividing people by age rather than positions.

It’s all subjective. I’m 30. I’m an early millennial by many metrics. I never would count myself as a Gen Xer. My first real memories are of the late Bush I and early Clinton years. I have none at all of the Reagan years which I think would qualify X.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:46:45pm

re: #188 John Carter

I will take that as an indication you have no rebuttal. I am sure of the zillions of boomers around here I will be shouted down any moment. Volume makes right.

ah….the every popular wingnut “I WIN” response!

really..feck off with your smug snotty bullshite.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:48:28pm

re: #253 Backwoods_Sleuth

ah….the every popular wingnut “I WIN” response!

really..feck off with your smug snotty bullshite.

Well, at least we’re not arguing about my beloved pineapple on pizza… .

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:49:33pm

re: #204 Kragar

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good grief…look how far his belly reaches ahead of him, upon which his necktie lies…

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dangerman  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:50:03pm

re: #248 Blind Frog Belly White

All generalizations suck.

generally, yes

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:50:31pm

re: #255 Backwoods_Sleuth

Do you think he might be expecting? ///

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John Carter  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:50:42pm

re: #239 HappyWarrior

It’s not because I’m a millennial, it’s how I view things.

I would if I were a millenial. They came of age during a boom, had very little economic anxiety, fully funded schools, pop culture all to themselves (until you guys showed up).

They will deplete SS before you get there then (not the people on this board) claim there is nothing for you, overload medicare to the point where it will be a shadow of its current self, they have already off-shored all your jobs (again not the people on this board).

They are already waging war against you and millenials don’t know it. You guys will realize it too late.

And to the people identifying the shitty X-ers, I wonder who is funding these useful idiots? That article about avocado toast might have been written by someone my age (I will have to check) but that is the kind of crap that we used to hear about all the time.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:51:45pm

re: #257 PhillyPretzel

Do you think he might be expecting? ///

Maybe a midnight flight to a non-extradition country… .

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retired cynic  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:52:11pm

re: #135 Backwoods_Sleuth

Semper Fi and DD.

And me.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:52:36pm

re: #221 Blind Frog Belly White

One wonders whether he’s as tiresome in person.

almost no doubt about it.

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Skip Intro  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:53:17pm
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Belafon  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:53:18pm

Wanna know what’s distracting: We hear about Trump paying hush money, meaning he can be bribed, and we’re being distracted by someone coming in and wanting to argue about which generation is at fault.

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ObserverArt  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:53:20pm

re: #250 BeachDem

I think more Carrie Underwoodish.

I was thinking his type..

A little Melania. A little Ivana.

A lot Marla Maples.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:55:01pm

re: #258 John Carter

I would if I were a millenial. They came of age during a boom, had very little economic anxiety, fully funded schools, pop culture all to themselves (until you guys showed up).

They will deplete SS before you get there then (not the people on this board) claim there is nothing for you, overload medicare to the point where it will be a shadow of its current self, they have already off-shored all your jobs (again not the people on this board).

They are already waging war against you and millenials don’t know it. You guys will realize it too late.

And to the people identifying the shitty X-ers, I wonder who is funding these useful idiots? That article about avocado toast might have been written by someone my age (I will have to check) but that is the kind of crap that we used to hear about all the time.

Well, I’m identifying such Xers in the comments above, but I assure you neither George Soros nor the Koch Brothers have given me a dime.

As for those of us in the late Baby Boom generation who couldn’t afford college then and have to make do now with a system that also didn’t really benefit the majority of Boomers, well I can’t say why that is. My Silent Generation mother couldn’t go to college until my father was killed and the VA paid for it.

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JordanRules  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:56:17pm

re: #263 Belafon

This is a weird one!

A funded war though. WTH?!?

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ObserverArt  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:56:55pm

re: #255 Backwoods_Sleuth

good grief…look how far his belly reaches ahead of him, upon which his necktie lies…

That is why I didn’t think that one photo of him at the Mar-A-Lago New Year’s gig wasn’t a Photoshop.

In that image he looked like he was bellowing at someone, so he probably couldn’t suck it all in when the camera caught him.

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The Major  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:58:11pm

re: #179 John Carter

The problem with jokers like you is very simple: “You don’t know what you don’t know.”

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John Carter  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:58:47pm

re: #263 Belafon

Wanna know what’s distracting: We hear about Trump paying hush money, meaning he can be bribed, and we’re being distracted by someone coming in and wanting to argue about which generation is at fault.

I am willing to go back to talking about the latest Trump nonsense. I have said my piece and gotten responses I expected anyhow.

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Skip Intro  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:58:50pm

Trump’s visits increase terrorism risk, Palm Beach County says

resident Donald Trump’s frequent visits to South Florida make the area a high-risk target for terrorism, one that justifies more money from the federal government, Palm Beach County’s top law enforcement agency says.

The Palm Beach County Sheriff’s Office is pushing for the federal government to boost its funding for terrorism prevention by designating Mar-a-Lago — Trump’s private club — a “high-risk critical asset,” according to a memo obtained by the South Florida Sun Sentinel

Here’s a clue. Trump is the terrorist, so why should our tax money be used to protect his vacation house? He’s a “billionaire” so let him pay for it.

sun-sentinel.com

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:59:07pm

My millennial niece, who supported Bernie in the primaries and voted for Hillary in the general election, is certain that Social Security won’t be there for her generation. This is what the GOP has succeeded in doing, ripping the fabric of the social safety net, destroying a sense of community, and turning this country into a libertarian nightmare of each person for themselves. They really want to return to the America before FDR.

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Jack Burton  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:59:17pm

re: #251 Kragar

Only the Sith deal in absolutes!

“Live and let live, that’s what I say. Anyone that disagrees with that… take them out and shoot them.”

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Archangelus  Jan 12, 2018 • 1:59:52pm

“But boss, it was just the news! I swear!”

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:00:34pm

re: #271 Hecuba’s daughter

If not earlier than FDR.

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BlueGrl21  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:00:34pm

re: #79 goddamnedfrank

Gen X is in the Goldilocks Zone for coolness.

45 and a proud X-er here.

Now, if I could just find my way through my morose apathy and hatred of authority, plus my damage done by being a latch key kid…//

The generational stuff is silly. We are all Lizards.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:01:23pm

re: #269 John Carter

I am willing to go back to talking about the latest Trump nonsense. I have said my piece and gotten responses I expected anyhow.

Which responses were those?

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:03:01pm

re: #229 Anymouse 🌹

Gen X gave us Alex Jones, Tomi Lahren, and Lauren Southen.

Tomi Lahren is 25
Lauren Southern is 22

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:03:33pm

Who do you suppose has paid for the Social Security and Medicare for the Greatest Generation?

Boomers.

Who’s going to pay for the Social Security and Medicare for the Boomers? GenXers and Millennials.

Who’s going to pay for the Social Security and Medicare for the GenXers?

Millennials and whatever comes after them

That’s how both Social Security and Medicare work. Current receipts pay for current benefits.

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:03:51pm
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wrenchwench  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:03:57pm

My older brother once said to my mom, ‘I didn’t ask to be born!’ She said, ‘Oh, yes you did.’

I take full responsibility for choosing the year of my birth. The other particulars were up to the surgeon who delivered me by Cesarean.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:04:05pm

re: #277 goddamnedfrank

Tomi Lahren is 25
Lauren Southern is 22

Yeah, pretty sure that makes them Millennials.

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dangerman  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:04:29pm

re: #271 Hecuba’s daughter

My millennial niece, who supported Bernie in the primaries and voted for Hillary in the general election, is certain that Social Security won’t be there for her generation. This is what the GOP has succeeded in doing, ripping the fabric of the social safety net, destroying a sense of community, and turning this country into a libertarian nightmare of each person for themselves. They really want to return to the America before FDR.

they’ve been doing this for at least 40 years
back when i started working full time - around 1/1/80, i didnt think social security would be there for me when i aged out
i’m closer now of course, not quite there.
and i still have to question / wonder what will be there

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:04:33pm

re: #277 goddamnedfrank

Tomi Lahren is 25
Lauren Southern is 22

Correct. They’re Millenials.

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John Carter  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:05:31pm

re: #276 Anymouse 🌹

Which responses were those?

Your last response was pretty reasonable. I was expecting the defensiveness and the call to arms which is what I got - not from you.

If I seem passionate it is from years of hearing what a great movie the Big Chill was and the show 30 Something.

X-ers have had a lot of avocado stories written about them over the years.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:06:40pm

re: #257 PhillyPretzel

Do you think he might be expecting? ///

why, yes! And it is gonna be YUGE!!!

:D

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:06:42pm

re: #280 wrenchwench

Yum. Now that’s a real pizza.

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wrenchwench  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:07:09pm

re: #284 John Carter

If I seem passionate it is from years of hearing what a great movie the Big Chill was and the show 30 Something.

Oh, man. That’s gotta hurt.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:08:47pm

re: #269 John Carter

I am willing to go back to talking about the latest Trump nonsense. I have said my piece and gotten responses I expected anyhow.

“I came in flinging bullshit accusations at strangers and, just as I expected, they thought I was an asshole. I win!”

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BlueSpotinAL  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:09:10pm

I haven’t see this here yet:
Anagram of the the day: “Shithole” can be rearranged to “His hotel”.

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JordanRules  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:09:42pm

re: #273 Archangelus

Funny replies!!

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:10:07pm

re: #277 goddamnedfrank

Tomi Lahren is 25
Lauren Southern is 22

Makes me feel old that I’m nearly a decade older than Lauren.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:10:36pm

re: #284 John Carter

Your last response was pretty reasonable. I was expecting the defensiveness and the call to arms which is what I got.

If I seem passionate it is from years of hearing what a great movie the Big Chill was and the show 30 Something.

X-ers have had a lot of avocado stories written about them over the years.

I never saw the movie nor the television show so I have no opinions on them.

The “avacado toast” thing that came out to claim Gen Xers were somehow not frugal with their money was pretty stupid (which is probably why it died in the news in about one day).

But I did like Breakfast Club so phht. /s

Simple Minds - Don’t You (Forget About Me)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:10:50pm

re: #271 Hecuba’s daughter

My millennial niece, who supported Bernie in the primaries and voted for Hillary in the general election, is certain that Social Security won’t be there for her generation. This is what the GOP has succeeded in doing, ripping the fabric of the social safety net, destroying a sense of community, and turning this country into a libertarian nightmare of each person for themselves. They really want to return to the America before FDR.

I’ve been told that SS won’t be there ever since I started working and paying into SS back in the 1960s.

Same scare tactic, different century.

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John Carter  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:11:35pm

re: #288 Blind Frog Belly White

“I came in flinging bullshit accusations at strangers and, just as I expected, they thought I was an asshole. I win!”

I never expected to win anything. I knew I would be shouted down.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:12:42pm

I still like the participation trophy trope as if we millennial begged for em. I don’t have any of my baseball or basketball trophies but I got memories.

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wrenchwench  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:13:08pm

Once a day, taken by eyes and ears:

The Kinks - Apeman promo film - full length

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:13:44pm

re: #295 HappyWarrior

I still like the participation trophy trope as if we millennial begged for em. I don’t have any of my baseball or basketball trophies but I got memories.

Especially since the Confederate Battle Flag today is the best-known participation trophy there is.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:14:02pm

re: #294 John Carter

I never expected to win anything. I knew I would be shouted down.

You came in and accused a bunch of people you don’t know of ruining your life because of the year in which we were born. That’s bullshit, and you got called on it. If you think that’s being shouted down, you are one weakass debater.

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JordanRules  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:14:44pm

re: #287 wrenchwench

This is all satire right?
I think I want to play. Maybe.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:15:15pm

re: #287 wrenchwench

Oh, man. That’s gotta hurt.

tragic, really…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:15:49pm

re: #299 JordanRules

This is all satire right?
I think I want to play. Maybe.

I’m starting to think so. Nobody says that and expects to be taken seriously.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:16:04pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:16:04pm

re: #297 Anymouse 🌹

Especially since the Confederate Battle Flag today is the best-known participation trophy there is.

Lol no kidding.

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whitebeach  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:16:33pm

re: #287 wrenchwench

Oh, man. That’s gotta hurt.

Oh, the humanity.

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wrenchwench  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:16:37pm

re: #299 JordanRules

This is all satire right?
I think I want to play. Maybe.

Something had to hurt. Bad.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:16:59pm

Top of the Billboard Hot 100 for the five weeks around my birthday … named after my wife apparently (her middle name).

I haz old.

The Everly Brothers - Cathy’s Clown.wmv

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:17:17pm

re: #293 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’ve been told that SS won’t be there ever since I started working and paying into SS back in the 1960s.

Same scare tactic, different century.

Except the GOP back in those days was a sane institution. Both parties worked together to resolve the problems we face. This is no longer true. Paul Ryan and other Ayn Rand acolytes and Koch Bros toadies are there to destroy anything that benefits people who are not in the 1%.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:18:05pm

is my downding button stuck?

hmmm….

nope. working just fine.

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whitebeach  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:19:07pm

re: #294 John Carter

I never expected to win anything. I knew I would be shouted down.

And yet you’re still beating your little drum.

BTW, I’m a war baby, born while we were still fighting the Japanese, so I don’t have a dog in the silly boomer, X, millennial thing. Talk to my kid brother about it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:19:42pm

re: #301 Blind Frog Belly White

I’m starting to think so. Nobody says that and expects to be taken seriously.

Snowflakes do.
And I says that in the true spirit of both-siderism….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:20:14pm

re: #305 wrenchwench

Something had to hurt. Bad.

wonder if it will also leave a mark…

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Interesting Times  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:20:50pm

Speaking of Stormy Daniels, my favorite story about her is this:

Stormy Daniels, porn star, eyeing bid for Louisiana Senate seat vs. prostitution-marred David Vitter

“I have never said that I’m the best person for the job. I absolutely am not,” she told WVLA-TV in Baton Rouge. “I just think I’m a better choice than the senator they already have.”

She has suggested her campaign slogan might be “Stormy Daniels: Screwing People Honestly.”

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wrenchwench  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:21:03pm

re: #311 Backwoods_Sleuth

wonder if it will also leave a mark…

…only removable by Flounce.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:21:56pm

re: #313 wrenchwench

…only removable by Flounce.

with that Fresh Spring Scent!

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:22:11pm

re: #307 Hecuba’s daughter

Except the GOP back in those days was a sane institution. Both parties worked together to resolve the problems we face. This is no longer true. Paul Ryan and other Ayn Rand acolytes and Koch Bros toadies are there to destroy anything that benefits people who are not in the 1%.

Am not a Bernie fan but there was a clip during the Tax Cut debate where he denounced a Republican Senator for saying that those who are older don’t have to worry about losing their benefits; as Bernie pointed out the real game is stripping them from those who are younger.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:24:08pm

re: #315 Hecuba’s daughter

Am not a Bernie fan but there was a clip during the Tax Cut debate where he denounced a Republican Senator for saying that those who are older don’t have to worry about losing their benefits; as Bernie pointed out the real game is stripping them from those who are younger.

and I have been assured of the same thing since the 1960s.

Such a surprise to get my first SS check six months ago.

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BlueGrl21  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:24:39pm

re: #295 HappyWarrior

I still like the participation trophy trope as if we millennial begged for em. I don’t have any of my baseball or basketball trophies but I got memories.

X got them too. That whole stereotype is silly.

And I know this to be true: Though we are the same age, I have aged a HELL of a lot better than Alex Jones.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:24:52pm

re: #316 Backwoods_Sleuth

and I have been assured of the same thing since the 1960s.

Such a surprise to get my first SS check six months ago.

Congratulations?

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darthstar  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:25:00pm
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dangerman  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:25:01pm

re: #296 wrenchwench

Once a day, taken by eyes and ears:

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Video

i posted this yesterday or the day before and got no love for it

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:25:46pm

re: #317 BlueGrl21

X got them too. That whole stereotype is silly.

And I know this to be true: Though we are the same age, I have aged a HELL of a lot better than Alex Jones.

Yep. The funny thing is people only started complaining about them as we got older.

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electrotek  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:26:36pm

re: #321 HappyWarrior

Yep. The funny thing is people only started complaining about them as we got older.

Eh, I’m 33 and I look like a punk-ass 19 year old college kid. It fucking blows a lot of times.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:26:54pm

re: #318 Anymouse 🌹

Congratulations?

at least I lived long enough to get it. More than my first husband, my step-daughter and my oldest step-son could say.

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wrenchwench  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:26:57pm

re: #320 dangerman

i posted this yesterday or the day before and got no love for it

I’m pretty sure I updinged it, but it was long post-post.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:27:21pm

re: #322 electrotek

Eh, I’m 33 and I look like a punk-ass 19 year old college kid. It fucking blows a lot of times.

I get people thinking I’m mid 20’s. Don’t know why but I’ll take it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:27:26pm

re: #319 darthstar

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need an option for “never seen it this high…ever”

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whitebeach  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:27:28pm

re: #310 Backwoods_Sleuth

Snowflakes do.
And I says that in the true spirit of both-siderism….

We’re told that all snowflakes are different, which means that each one is special. This makes sense up to the point when we realize that the same thing is true of all turds.

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wrenchwench  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:27:37pm

re: #322 electrotek

Eh, I’m 33 and I look like a punk-ass 19 year old college kid. It fucking blows a lot of times.

Nothing beats being carded in your 50s. You’ll get there.

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dangerman  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:27:43pm

re: #324 wrenchwench

I’m pretty sure I updinged it, but it was long post-post.

well ok then

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:28:10pm

re: #291 HappyWarrior

Makes me feel old that I’m nearly a decade older than Lauren.

My SCUBA tank, 1st & 2nd regulator stages, which I bought new, are older than both of them.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:28:17pm

re: #315 Hecuba’s daughter

Am not a Bernie fan but there was a clip during the Tax Cut debate where he denounced a Republican Senator for saying that those who are older don’t have to worry about losing their benefits; as Bernie pointed out the real game is stripping them from those who are younger.

Those who are older tend more Republican and are dependent on the benefits. Those who are younger tend more Democratic and have been told since birth that Boomers will take away their Social Security, so the GOP figures they won’t lose anything screwing them.

All fixable by removing the income cap on FICA. And I say that as someone who would be affected by removing the cap.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:28:41pm

re: #330 goddamnedfrank

My SCUBA tank, 1st & 2nd regulator stages, which I bought new, are older than both of them.

I didn’t know you dove. Way cool.

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retired cynic  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:29:22pm

re: #284 John Carter

Your last response was pretty reasonable. I was expecting the defensiveness and the call to arms.

If I seem passionate it is from years of hearing what a great movie the Big Chill was and the show 30 Something. …

Never seen either. Really wish we could bury generalizations about people by age, race, gender or sexual orientation and judge each other by our characters.

I could not face Hillary’s book when it first came out, but I did get it and started in last night. Started crying in the introduction. Damn.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:29:22pm

re: #322 electrotek

As late as my 30’s I was carded almost every time I went into a casino in AC. Even right now in my 50’s I show my “precious strands of silver” to prove my age.

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whitebeach  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:29:56pm

re: #317 BlueGrl21

And I know this to be true: Though we are the same age, I have aged a HELL of a lot better than Alex Jones.

Not, perhaps, the most difficult of challenges.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:30:07pm

re: #328 wrenchwench

Nothing beats being carded in your 50s. You’ll get there.

been there!

oh…memories…

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dangerman  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:30:18pm

re: #330 goddamnedfrank

My SCUBA tank, 1st & 2nd regulator stages, which I bought new, are older than both of them.

i’ve got bug guts on my biker jacket older than them
then again, so’s the jacket

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:30:26pm

re: #309 whitebeach

And yet you’re still beating your little drum.

BTW, I’m a war baby, born while we were still fighting the Japanese, so I don’t have a dog in the silly boomer, X, millennial thing. Talk to my kid brother about it.

You’re old enough to be my mom! /s

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dangerman  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:30:53pm

re: #332 HappyWarrior

I didn’t know you dove. Way cool.

ditto

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:31:08pm

re: #334 PhillyPretzel

As late as my 30’s I was carded almost every time I went into a casino in AC. Even right now in my 50’s I show my “precious strands of silver” to prove my age.

Perhaps it’s my hairline, but I haven’t been carded since I was 20.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:32:01pm

re: #339 dangerman

ditto

I’d be petrified tbh. Snorkeling is one thing but being deep below scares me. It’s not the sharks, it’s going down that deep.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:32:19pm

re: #337 dangerman

i’ve got bug guts on my biker jacket older than them
then again, so’s the jacket

Unless you applied old bug guts to a newer jacket, that’s pretty much inevitable.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:32:33pm

re: #323 Backwoods_Sleuth

at least I lived long enough to get it. More than my first husband, my step-daughter and my oldest step-son could say.

I’m sorry to hear about that.

No man in my family has lived long enough to collect Social Security: I only have a few years more to go and I could be a family first.

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weave  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:33:19pm

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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:33:22pm

re: #328 wrenchwench

Nothing beats being carded in your 50s. You’ll get there.

Yup!
Happened to me several weeks ago. (Born in 65)

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wrenchwench  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:34:14pm

re: #345 Jebediah, RBG

Yup!
Happened to me several weeks ago. (Born in 65)

Funny, you look older!

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:35:02pm

re: #344 weave

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Ha saw that earlier.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:35:09pm

re: #333 retired cynic

Never seen either. Really wish we could bury generalizations about people by age, race, gender or sexual orientation and judge each other by our characters.

I could not face Hillary’s book when it first came out, but I did get it and started in last night. Started crying in the introduction. Damn.

Yeah, that’d be nice, wouldn’t it. A dream, one might say…..

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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:35:48pm

re: #346 wrenchwench

Funny, you look older!

I assume you are talking about my avatar pic.

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weave  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:36:34pm

re: #347 HappyWarrior

Ha saw that earlier.

Sorry if a repost. Scrolled through all of the past two threads and didn’t see it. Was just too funny not to share.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:36:46pm

re: #345 Jebediah, RBG

Yup!
Happened to me several weeks ago. (Born in 65)

I was last carded around age fifty I think. Since I moved here, everyone knows me now so no one cards me (either for cigarettes, booze, or cheques).

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whitebeach  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:37:02pm

re: #328 wrenchwench

Nothing beats being carded in your 50s. You’ll get there.

Once in a while the nearest Family Dollar gets busted for selling cigarettes to minors and institutes a zero-tolerance, card-everybody policy. I stop in as often as I can until they come to their senses. It’s like my own little time-travel jaunt.

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wrenchwench  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:37:35pm

re: #349 Jebediah, RBG

I assume you are talking about my avatar pic.

Oooh, handsome! Take care of those whiskers!

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:38:13pm

re: #201 John Carter

Commercial appeal??? Right, because there are a lot of boomers and they buy records. Maybe U2 is better but they didn’t sell as many albums to X-ers. I wonder why that could be? Next.

As for politics, gee I wonder why there are no X-ers? You do realize you have been bashing my generation into submission collectively since the beginning? Do you think “X-er” was meant as a compliments? You have always been older, more abundant, more powerful etc. You generation mocked the X-ers and we would to small to do anything about it.

I haven’t seen this much bitterness and self-pitying whining since Trump’s last tweet.

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wrenchwench  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:38:50pm

re: #352 whitebeach

Once in a while the nearest Family Dollar gets busted for selling cigarettes to minors and institutes a zero-tolerance, card-everybody policy. I stop in as often as I can until they come to their senses. It’s like my own little time-travel jaunt.

The Food Basket prominently displays a sign claiming to card everyone under 40. Too prominently.

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ObserverArt  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:39:19pm

re: #284 John Carter

Your last response was pretty reasonable. I was expecting the defensiveness and the call to arms which is what I got - not from you.

If I seem passionate it is from years of hearing what a great movie the Big Chill was and the show 30 Something.

X-ers have had a lot of avocado stories written about them over the years.

Hey, I thought The Big Chill sucked too. And I never watched 30 something because it was just another TV show…I had art to create.

What does that mean???

Not a goddamned thing.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:39:21pm

re: #350 weave

Sorry if a repost. Scrolled through all of the past two threads and didn’t see it. Was just too funny not to share.

No I saw it on FB, you’re good.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:39:28pm

re: #332 HappyWarrior

I didn’t know you dove. Way cool.

Slowly getting back into it. That was one of the motives for getting the Lasik done, because I had a less than fun experience with a prescription lens mask flooding.

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weave  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:39:30pm

re: #351 Anymouse 🌹

I was last carded around age fifty I think. Since I moved here, everyone knows me now so no one cards me (either for cigarettes, booze, or cheques).

I started ordering from the Denny’s 55+ menu when I was about 50, because the portions are smaller and I’ve been trying to watch my weight.

I’ve never been carded. Yeah, that sucks.

Same for Walgreens 20% senior first Tuesdays. It’s really useful — but really, you could still card me you know….

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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:40:11pm

re: #353 wrenchwench

Oooh, handsome! Take care of those whiskers!

Thanks!
I’ll do my best!

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ObserverArt  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:40:22pm

re: #287 wrenchwench

Oh, man. That’s gotta hurt.

You are evil!

(My sides hurt)

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:41:16pm

re: #358 goddamnedfrank

Slowly getting back into it. That was one of the motives for getting the Lasik done, because I had a less than fun experience with a prescription lens mask flooding.

Cool. I had a buddy whose father liked diving in the Carribean. The only time I can remember my mom swimming for a long time was when we went snorkeling at Dry Tortugas I’m the Florida Keys.

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wrenchwench  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:41:23pm

re: #361 ObserverArt

You are evil!

(My sides hurt)

I guess I take after my gramma (I saw you upding that one).

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:42:47pm

re: #323 Backwoods_Sleuth

at least I lived long enough to get it. More than my first husband, my step-daughter and my oldest step-son could say.

Sorry to hear of your losses.

My husband died young, and courtesy of the Social Security law, I received benefits based on his earnings, even though I didn’t need the money. But he paid into it, so thought it was fair. I eventually switched to my earnings to maximize the benefits. If you can wait till age 70, actuarial adjustments can increase the benefit by a third.

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John Carter  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:43:20pm

httpsttps://vice.com

I like Joe Biden but that’s him on my news feed trashing Millennials and talking about how great boomers are right now. You guys don’t even see it, you moved on from thrashing xers over the years and now your favorite target is millenials.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:43:46pm

I am 36 and no longer get carded. I’m sure my full beard with ample grey hairs doesn’t hurt.

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wrenchwench  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:44:56pm

re: #365 John Carter

httpsttps://vice.com

I like Joe Biden but that’s him on my news feed trashing Millennials and talking about how great boomers are right now. You guys don’t even see it, you moved on from thrashing extras over the years and now your favorite target is millenials.

Among your overwhelming supply of generalizations, this one could use correction: We ain’t all guys.

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ObserverArt  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:45:39pm

re: #298 Blind Frog Belly White

You came in and accused a bunch of people you don’t know of ruining your life because of the year in which we were born. That’s bullshit, and you got called on it. If you think that’s being shouted down, you are one weakass debater.

Is it snowing in here?

It’s sorta iffy here in Columbus. We are deep in some sketchy weather. It is trying to get to snow but the upper air must be warm enough to still be spitting wet sleet.

Winds picking up and slight flickering in electricity. Ugh.

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Cheechako  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:46:07pm

I get carded whenever I buy booze. Up here in Alaska your birth date has to be entered into the cash register for the sale to be approved.

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wrenchwench  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:47:24pm

re: #366 Eclectic Cyborg

I am 36 and no longer get carded. I’m sure my full beard with ample grey hairs doesn’t hurt.

Nope. It’s shaving that hurts.

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dangerman  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:47:52pm

re: #341 HappyWarrior

I’d be petrified tbh. Snorkeling is one thing but being deep below scares me. It’s not the sharks, it’s going down that deep.

thats why we take courses and train and learn bit by bit
it’s what we dont know - or think we know that isnt so- that tends to scare us

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:48:00pm

re: #370 wrenchwench

Nope. It’s shaving that hurts.

Now you know why I had a beard for the past two years before Thanksgiving.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:48:22pm

re: #261 Backwoods_Sleuth

almost no doubt about it.

Fixed that for you.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:48:31pm

re: #371 dangerman

thats why we take courses and train and learn bit by bit
it’s what we dont know - or think we know that isnt so- that tends to scare us

Of course. Deep sea exploration fascinates me though.

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dangerman  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:48:54pm

re: #342 Blind Frog Belly White

Unless you applied old bug guts to a newer jacket, that’s pretty much inevitable.

i realized as i was writing it then just figured id let it stand

i did have a bike where i swapped windshields so it was the reverse case there - older bugs, younger bike

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Archangelus  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:51:11pm
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dangerman  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:51:49pm

earlier i posted:

the lord is my shepherd’s pie
i shall not want until dinner time

it is now dinner time and i want

back later

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:53:57pm

Kitty gets packed for a long trip, didn’t make it through security.

There’s a right way to travel with your cat and a wrong way.

The TSA said one of its officers found a cat packed inside checked luggage at Pennsylvania’s Erie International Airport.

The feline, named Slim, was curled up in a pile of clothes inside the bag.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:54:00pm

re: #294 John Carter

I never expected to win anything. I knew I would be shouted down.

You haven’t been shouted down. You’ve been mocked. There’s a difference.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:56:00pm

re: #375 dangerman

i realized as i was writing it then just figured id let it stand

i did have a bike where i swapped windshields so it was the reverse case there - older bugs, younger bike

I could see a poseur applying old bug guts to a new jacket to give it that ‘lived in’ look.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:56:38pm

re: #377 dangerman

earlier i posted:

the lord is my shepherd’s pie
i shall not want until dinner time

it is now dinner time and i want

back later

Peppered with actual shepherd?

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BlueSpotinAL  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:56:47pm

Baby boomer here (use the scroll if you must)

On the tail end of the boom, Vietnam was long done (not only had the US pulled out, but the evacuation from Saigon) by the time I graduated high school. In high school, going out of the house was not even thought of (out in the country, where would I go? There was farm work to do on weekends, church.) After the fact, and starting during college, I held pretty liberal beliefs, and felt a kindred spirit with the 60’s protestors. However, there was a substantial body of boomers who sided with authority, because 1) that is how many people are (regardless of generation). 2) Many people were indoctrinated in school, parents, church, etc. Fear plays a major role in how authoritarians respond. Fear is why these people vote in much higher numbers than everybody else.

Reason 2) has a huge effect on the manifestation and extent of authoritarian personalities. A lot of the baby boomers came of age when Reagan was president, with the PR campaign that fooled a lot of people. Those people believed that crap whole, watch Fox News, and venerate Reagan as Great to this day. Others detested Reagan from the beginning (guilty!) - mainly the educated and minorities. In subsequent generations, the balance has shifted to and fro because of the character of leaders and ability to advance convincing arguments, and external forces (wars, jobs moving overseas). I am not going to argue that gen X was blah blah blah, or millenials, etc. It is pointless.

Some things we need to do:
Form the values in the young that include caring for others as a primary value, rather than hating and punishing those who are different. Use Trump’s egregious behavior as the wedge to illustrate that the more subtle dog whistles from his associates are also immoral.

Get them to vote (and registered, and get ID, because these ID laws are not going anywhere. ID laws cut both ways though!). I never would have thought it possible to elect Doug Jones to senate here. There is a substantial number of republicans who could feel disgust at Roy Moore, but getting the black vote out was also critical.

Allay their fears about social security - let them know it will be there for them IF the government that is elected wishes to, and the only way to get that is to vote accordingly NOW.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:58:02pm

re: #374 HappyWarrior

Of course. Deep sea exploration fascinates me though.

Deep sea exploration BY OTHERS fascinates me, like spelunking and cave diving BY OTHERS fascinates me.

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whitebeach  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:58:11pm

re: #369 Cheechako

I get carded whenever I buy booze. Up here in Alaska your birth date has to be entered into the cash register for the sale to be approved.

They must have an app that converts the Roman numerals on your card, huh?/

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BlueGrl21  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:58:28pm

re: #366 Eclectic Cyborg

I am 36 and no longer get carded. I’m sure my full beard with ample grey hairs doesn’t hurt.

I’ve been mistaken for every age from early 20s to late 50s, depending on the age of whom I’m talking to. I have one of those faces that people project themselves onto.

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dangerman  Jan 12, 2018 • 2:58:45pm

ok i had to come back for this. the new yorker cover next week

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 12, 2018 • 3:00:43pm

re: #201 John Carter

Commercial appeal??? Right, because there are a lot of boomers and they buy records. Maybe U2 is better but they didn’t sell as many albums to X-ers. I wonder why that could be? Next.

As for politics, gee I wonder why there are no X-ers? You do realize you have been bashing my generation into submission collectively since the beginning? Do you think “X-er” was meant as a compliments? You have always been older, more abundant, more powerful etc. You generation mocked the X-ers and we would to small to do anything about it.

Wow, so much to unpack here.

Musicians who are popular make money. I even managed to scrape up a profit with my long-playing short-selling album as an Irish folk musician in north Florida/south Georgia. My mother makes a lot more at it and has numerous albums. A family friend gave up on Irish music to join country band Mustang Sally, where she makes much more money.

I could write the greatest piece of music in history, but if no one ever heard it, does it qualify as great music? As for younger people buying records or CDs or whatnot, I can’t say, considering there are many more options for acquiring recordings now (iTunes, direct sales, &c) than we had in the Sixties through Eighties. (I bought one of the very first CDs released in the USA, Abba’s Greatest Hits Vol. 2. Yes I like Disco, sue me. /s)

Maybe U2 didn’t sell many albums to Xers. I’m betting Rasputina didn’t sell many albums to Boomers either, though I have every album they put out and went to one of their concerts. Next.

As for me beating Gen Xers into submission? Nope. I tirelessly work to get younger people involved in politics in my village, regardless of their political leanings. I think it’s important for everyone to be engaged. (I am the youngest person on my village board, and no one here can remember anyone younger ever elected.)

In point of fact, our village board pays nothing, though virtually all local governments here pay trustees or councillors. Another trustee (a Republican) was ruminating on how to engage people in town to run, and I pointed out if we paid at least a small stipend we might get more response.

That drew responses from all the GOPers that the villagers would be angry at that. I pointed out “good, they can run for office to overturn it then.”

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Cheechako  Jan 12, 2018 • 3:01:47pm

re: #384 whitebeach

They must have an app that converts the Roman numerals on your card, huh?/

Actually, that makes it much easier.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 12, 2018 • 3:01:59pm

re: #369 Cheechako

I get carded whenever I buy booze. Up here in Alaska your birth date has to be entered into the cash register for the sale to be approved.

Here too. Apparently the stores here have a workaround for that which is iffy legal at best: they just punch a button and it bypasses that.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Jan 12, 2018 • 3:03:31pm

re: #365 John Carter

httpsttps://vice.com

I like Joe Biden but that’s him on my news feed trashing Millennials and talking about how great boomers are right now. You guys don’t even see it, you moved on from thrashing extras over the years and now your favorite target is millenials.

You’re still here?

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mmmirele  Jan 12, 2018 • 3:04:13pm

re: #378 Shropshire Slasher

Kitty gets packed for a long trip, didn’t make it through security.

Poor kitty! Although I really have to wonder, cats really have a thing about suitcases in the process of being packed.

On the subject of aging, my mother gave me a jar of anti-aging cream from CVS for my last birthday. I told my manager about it and she cracked up laughing. See, I’m 57, but I don’t look 57, in large part because I dye my hair a flaming red color (covers up all the gray). Most people think I’m a lot younger. I get weird looks when I start talking about “graduating from high school 40 years ago” because the people I’m talking to don’t believe I’m as old as I am. And yeah, if I buy booze, I get carded about half the time, but I’m thinking it’s more due to zero tolerance rather than “oh, you look 20.”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 12, 2018 • 3:04:33pm

Up until 2013 my job would not allow me to grow a full beard. The job I took after that allows beards so I decided to grow one out and have kept it ever since.

No plans to get rid of it anytime soon either.

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wrenchwench  Jan 12, 2018 • 3:06:25pm

re: #392 Eclectic Cyborg

Up until 2013 my job would not allow me to grow a full beard. The job I took after that allows beards so I decided to grow one out and have kept it ever since.

No plans to get rid of it anytime soon either.

Mr. w hasn’t shaved since 1969 (the year he got out of the Navy). Is his beard a boomer?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 12, 2018 • 3:09:19pm

re: #367 wrenchwench

Among your overwhelming supply of generalizations, this one could use correction: We ain’t all guys.

and we know how to post proper links…

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Cheechako  Jan 12, 2018 • 3:09:44pm

re: #392 Eclectic Cyborg

Up until 2013 my job would not allow me to grow a full beard. The job I took after that allows beards so I decided to grow one out and have kept it ever since.

No plans to get rid of it anytime soon either.

I’ve had a full beard since the fall of 1971. My sons (43 & 41) have never seen me without a beard. They have told me that when I die they will have me shaved so they would know what I actually looked like.

My wife loves the beard….NO MORE BEARD BURN!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 12, 2018 • 3:13:05pm

re: #390 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

You’re still here?

his troll line got caught up on some nasty snags.

he’s still trying to get untangled.

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petesh  Jan 12, 2018 • 3:13:43pm

re: #328 wrenchwench

I was carded in my 40s … to see if I deserved the AARP discount. I was not happy, but the clerk was only trying to help so I forgave the little shit.

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gwangung  Jan 12, 2018 • 3:14:30pm

re: #121 Blind Frog Belly White

She’s not actually even a Korean woman. She’s a woman whose parents are from Korea. But she LOOKS right, to Trump.

But he’s not racist.
////

Of course he did. It was inevitable he’d do the “Where are you REALLY from” shit. AGAIN.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 12, 2018 • 3:15:44pm

re: #395 Cheechako

I’ve had a full beard since the fall of 1971. My sons (43 & 41) have never seen me without a beard. They have told me that when I die they will have me shaved so they would know what I actually looked like.

My wife loved the beard….NO MORE BEARD BURN!!

I had a beard from the age of 23 till maybe 53 or 54. By that time, it was white with only a few nonwhite hairs, and I got tired of the Santa Claus Effect.

The Boys had never seen me without a beard. I told Mrs FBW I was gonna shave, but didn’t tell them. When I stepped into the living room, The Older Boy was stunned into silence. It was like a tectonic shift in his world.

People at work were similarly boggled. Myself, I was just being distracted by feeling air moving over my face.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 12, 2018 • 3:15:49pm

re: #393 wrenchwench

Mr. w hasn’t shaved since 1969 (the year he got out of the Navy). Is his beard a boomer?

I haven’t cut my hair since the year I got out of the Navy (1996) so my hair is apparently Millenial.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 12, 2018 • 3:16:12pm

hey Observer Art!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 12, 2018 • 3:20:35pm

re: #399 Blind Frog Belly White

I had a beard from the age of 23 till maybe 53 or 54. By that time, it was white with only a few nonwhite hairs, and I got tired of the Santa Claus Effect.

The Boys had never seen me without a beard. I told Mrs FBW I was gonna shave, but didn’t tell them. When I stepped into the living room, The Older Boy was stunned into silence. It was like a tectonic shift in his world.

People at work were similarly boggled. Myself, I was just being distracted by feeling air moving over my face.

First husband did the same thing.
I came home from work, walked into the bathroom and screamed because there was a strange man in the bathtub.
First and only time I ever saw him without a full beard.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 12, 2018 • 3:21:17pm

re: #397 petesh

I was carded in my 40s … to see if I deserved the AARP discount. I was not happy, but the clerk was only trying to help so I forgave the little shit.

My wife was a strawberry blonde, but her hair went grey when she was about thirty (long before I met her).

Frequently restaurants and hotels outside our area will apply a “senior discount” to our bill because of her grey hair.

Being stupid and honest, we’ll tell clerks that we don’t qualify as my wife is not “a senior.” Ofttimes they will leave the discount because that’s easier than trying to reverse a charge.

On the flipside, folk around here think I’m an overaged teenager because I do things like ride grocery carts across parking lots and such.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 12, 2018 • 3:21:20pm
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EPR-radar  Jan 12, 2018 • 3:22:17pm

re: #399 Blind Frog Belly White

I go back and forth on the beard thing. Shaving it off is a pain in the ass, but it never seems to stop itching if I don’t shave.

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Cheechako  Jan 12, 2018 • 3:23:10pm

re: #399 Blind Frog Belly White

I had a beard from the age of 23 till maybe 53 or 54. By that time, it was white with only a few nonwhite hairs, and I got tired of the Santa Claus Effect.

The Boys had never seen me without a beard. I told Mrs FBW I was gonna shave, but didn’t tell them. When I stepped into the living room, The Older Boy was stunned into silence. It was like a tectonic shift in his world.

People at work were similarly boggled. Myself, I was just being distracted by feeling air moving over my face.

My beard started out being a very rusty red color. When my boys were in their middle teens my beard and the rest of my hair started turning white. I blamed them. I try to keep it short before Christmas because a lot of little kids thought I was that Santa person.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 12, 2018 • 3:23:12pm

re: #404 Charles Johnson

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because DOH! He’s not gonna spend HIS money on a losing cause.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 12, 2018 • 3:24:19pm

On the flipside of age, once in Oklahoma I decided to ride a full grocery cart across a parking lot to our car.

A “concerned citizen” saw that and told my wife she needed to “rein in her teenage son.”

She told him a) I was her hub and b) it was my fiftieth birthday and she wasn’t going to ruin my fun.

Edited for wrong homynym of “rein.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 12, 2018 • 3:26:38pm

re: #408 Anymouse 🌹

On the flipside of age, once in Oklahoma I decided to ride a full grocery cart across a parking lot to our car.

A “concerned citizen” saw that and told my wife she needed to “reign in her teenage son.”

She told him a) I was her hub and b) it was my fiftieth birthday and she wasn’t going to ruin my fun.

you and MrBWS should never be allowed to go to the grocery store together.
He rides the shopping carts. He also yodels inside the Kroger store (but only because the deli workers request it every damned time he’s there).

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 12, 2018 • 3:26:56pm

re: #402 Backwoods_Sleuth

First husband did the same thing.
I came home from work, walked into the bathroom and screamed because there was a strange man in the bathtub.
First and only time I ever saw him without a full beard.

My late husband had a neat beard almost the entire time we were together , with the exception of a two month period when he suddenly, without warning, shaved it off. But it returned and he never tried that again.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 12, 2018 • 3:27:47pm

re: #409 Backwoods_Sleuth

you and MrBWS should never be allowed to go to the grocery store together.
He rides the shopping carts. He also yodels inside the Kroger store (but only because the deli workers request it every damned time he’s there).

Yodels? I need to up my game.

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meteor  Jan 12, 2018 • 3:28:13pm

re: #118 HappyWarrior

I graduated in 1990. Born in ‘73.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 12, 2018 • 3:28:42pm

re: #411 Anymouse 🌹

Yodels? I need to up my game.

indeed. People will remember you. Always.

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Jay C  Jan 12, 2018 • 3:31:08pm

Well, since I’m definitely a Boomer, I guess my beard is, too: I grew it after I graduated college (‘74) and have only rarely shaved it off since. The last time was about 8 years ago, just to see the effect. The effect on Mrs. Jay was one of horror, though: she pointed out that beardlessness made my face look fat. Damn if she wasn’t right…..

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 12, 2018 • 3:31:35pm

re: #331 Blind Frog Belly White

All fixable by removing the income cap on FICA. And I say that as someone who would be affected by removing the cap.

It would also require a change to the formula for determining benefits; otherwise there would be retirees receiving a million dollar annual Social Security payment.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 12, 2018 • 3:32:17pm

re: #403 Anymouse 🌹

My wife was a strawberry blonde, but her hair went grey when she was about thirty (long before I met her).

Frequently restaurants and hotels outside our area will apply a “senior discount” to our bill because of her grey hair.

Being stupid and honest, we’ll tell clerks that we don’t qualify as my wife is not “a senior.” Ofttimes they will leave the discount because that’s easier than trying to reverse a charge.

On the flipside, folk around here think I’m an overaged teenager because I do things like ride grocery carts across parking lots and such.

As intelligent people are wont to do.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 12, 2018 • 3:32:20pm

re: #405 EPR-radar

I go back and forth on the beard thing. Shaving it off is a pain in the ass, but it never seems to stop itching if I don’t shave.

I shampoo and condition mine when I shower and seldom have issues with itching.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 12, 2018 • 3:32:49pm

re: #413 Backwoods_Sleuth

indeed. People will remember you. Always.

Around here I would be met with a shotgun.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 12, 2018 • 3:33:34pm

re: #405 EPR-radar

I go back and forth on the beard thing. Shaving it off is a pain in the ass, but it never seems to stop itching if I don’t shave.

In my experience, a beard starts itching at 3-4 days, and itches till about 2-3 weeks. Once grown in, it stops itching, assuming you don’t get vermin in it.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 12, 2018 • 3:33:37pm

re: #416 Blind Frog Belly White

As intelligent people are wont to do.

Labatt Blue “Shopping Carts” ad (1998)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 12, 2018 • 3:34:03pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 12, 2018 • 3:35:18pm

Now y’all have done it; reading the comments to my wife, she is now yodelling while making a pizza.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 12, 2018 • 3:36:27pm

re: #415 Hecuba’s daughter

It would also require a change to the formula for determining benefits; otherwise there would be retirees receiving a million dollar annual Social Security payment.

From what I’ve read, that wouldn’t be an issue - especially since you could tax it back.

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William Lewis  Jan 12, 2018 • 3:36:40pm

re: #405 EPR-radar

I go back and forth on the beard thing. Shaving it off is a pain in the ass, but it never seems to stop itching if I don’t shave.

I know. I split the difference and have a nice Fu Man Chu mustache and only shave about half my face.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 12, 2018 • 3:37:40pm

re: #421 Backwoods_Sleuth

Andrew Wortman
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Pence is so eager for the Presidency; he feels it within his grasp.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 12, 2018 • 3:38:28pm

re: #424 William Lewis

I know. I split the difference and have a nice Fu Man Chu mustache and only shave about half my face.

Many men smoke, but Fu Manchu.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 12, 2018 • 3:39:34pm

welp, we got it all right now:
32F with rain, freezing rain, sleet, and snow…all at the same time.
Dogs ran out the back door, spun around and bailed back into the house.

FML

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petesh  Jan 12, 2018 • 3:39:55pm

re: #403 Anymouse 🌹

… On the flipside, folk around here think I’m an overaged teenager because I do things like ride grocery carts across parking lots and such.

Me too, sometimes. The very best, however, was when I had exploratory surgery nearly four years ago, which confirmed a diagnosis of GCA (don’t ask). When I went to have the stitches removed, this lovely conversation happened:

Doctor: Hmmm, most people don’t get this till they’re in the mid-60s.
Me: I’m 65.

To this there was no answer and I restrained myself from laughing till I got outside.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 12, 2018 • 3:40:08pm

From Juanita Jean’s, the World’s Most Dangerous Beauty Salon:

Did anybody else notice something about the Total Craphole counties - El Salvador, Haiti and Africa?
Asked about the “shithole” comments, a White House official told CNN’s Kaitlan Collins this:

“The President’s ‘shithole’ remark is being received much differently inside of the White House than it is outside of it. Though this might enrage Washington, staffers predict the comment will resonate with his base, much like his attacks on NFL players who kneel during the National Anthem did not alienate it.”
Yeah, his base thinks there are craphole countries and craphole people who got that way by birth. If you’re born in a craphole country, you are automatically a craphole person. It makes his insecure white small handed base feel like they are better than other people by accident of birth.

I am stunned, angry, and really pissed off. I just spent two weeks in the hospital where I had Nigerian nurses hold my hand when I was scared of the ventilator. They reassured me, sang to me, brushed my hair before my husband came, and dammit - took care of me with exquisite empathy.

Trump said of those nurses:
Forty thousand had come from Nigeria, Mr. Trump added. Once they had seen the United States, they would never ‘go back to their huts’ in Africa, recalled the two officials, who asked for anonymity to discuss a sensitive conversation in the Oval Office.”

(more at Juanita Jean’s): juanitajean.com

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 12, 2018 • 3:40:46pm

re: #425 Hecuba’s daughter

Pence is so eager for the Presidency; he feels it within his grasp.

That’s how I read it too. I imagine a thought bubble over his head, with only “Soon…” in it.

431
Anymouse 🌹  Jan 12, 2018 • 3:42:25pm

re: #428 petesh

Me too, sometimes. The very best, however, was when I had exploratory surgery nearly four years ago, which confirmed a diagnosis of GCA (don’t ask). When I went to have the stitches removed, this lovely conversation happened:

To this there was no answer and I restrained myself from laughing till I got outside.

I got the opposite the first time I went in for Dupuytren’s Contracture surgery:

We don’t usually see this in men until their eighties.

I was forty-five.

432
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 12, 2018 • 3:43:05pm

re: #428 petesh

Me too, sometimes. The very best, however, was when I had exploratory surgery nearly four years ago, which confirmed a diagnosis of GCA (don’t ask). When I went to have the stitches removed, this lovely conversation happened:

To this there was no answer and I restrained myself from laughing till I got outside.

laughing during/shortly after stitches removal can be hazardous…

433
Charles Johnson  Jan 12, 2018 • 3:43:16pm
434
Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 12, 2018 • 3:43:37pm

re: #431 Anymouse 🌹

I got the opposite the first time I went in for Dupuytren’s Contracture surgery:

I was forty-five.

A co-worker in her 50s had that surgery.

435
BlueGrl21  Jan 12, 2018 • 3:44:25pm

I’ve noticed my general…despising of Trump is blunted nicely when I think of him as, “It.”

It is tweeting.
It is scared of going to Great Britain.
It pays porn stars hush money.

Plus, there is the added benefit of this Gollum voice in my head when I think it. “It’s tricksy, Precious. But it’s a stupid, fat hobbit.”

It works.

436
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 12, 2018 • 3:45:49pm

looks like most folks in Cincinnati are smart and are staying off the roads.

437
goddamnedfrank  Jan 12, 2018 • 3:46:28pm
438
Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 12, 2018 • 3:46:39pm

re: #436 Backwoods_Sleuth

looks like most folks in Cincinnati are smart and are staying off the roads.

[Embedded content]

Looks like the snowplows are, too.

439
Anymouse 🌹  Jan 12, 2018 • 3:47:05pm

Comment over at Juanita Jean’s:

Can someone with a better memory than me tell me; after a his first year in office did someone say “Obama’s starting to look Presidential” ?

440
goddamnedfrank  Jan 12, 2018 • 3:47:44pm

re: #437 goddamnedfrank

It’s the eyes, they’re set so far in his skull they’re in permanent shade.

441
Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 12, 2018 • 3:48:02pm

re: #439 Anymouse 🌹

Yeah, but then he wore that tan suit………..
//

442
ObserverArt  Jan 12, 2018 • 3:48:46pm

The most stunning thing about the Trump lawyer paying off adult film star Stormy Daniels is it came out in the Wall Street Journal.

You know who owns the Wall Street Journal?

News Corp. Rupert Murdoch

Trump friend(?).

443
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 12, 2018 • 3:49:56pm

re: #438 Blind Frog Belly White

Looks like the snowplows are, too.

currently there is some fairly heavy sleet happening.

444
Anymouse 🌹  Jan 12, 2018 • 3:50:09pm

re: #434 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

A co-worker in her 50s had that surgery.

I’ve had four. The docs tell me if this continues they may not be able to help me any more.

Unfortunately, the disorder (which is genetic to northern and eastern European heritage) is triggered by my epilepsy medication if one is predisposed to it. The problem started when I was thirty-five and still in the Navy.

445
ObserverArt  Jan 12, 2018 • 3:51:59pm

re: #435 BlueGrl21

I’ve noticed my general…despising of Trump is blunted nicely when I think of him as, “It.”

It is tweeting.
It is scared of going to Great Britain.
It pays porn stars hush money.

Plus, there is the added benefit of this Gollum voice in my head when I think it. “It’s tricksy, Precious. But it’s a stupid, fat hobbit.”

It works.

Did you see my “IT” movie poster.

It’s behind the private tag. I don’t want to bore those that have already seen it. Bubblehead II the other morning said “It is awake” as he posted a morning Trump Tweet. That got me going.

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

446
petesh  Jan 12, 2018 • 3:52:38pm

re: #431 Anymouse 🌹

I got the opposite the first time I went in for Dupuytren’s Contracture surgery:

I was forty-five.

I use the doctors but they have to earn my trust nowadays! Fortunately, I have some good ones. Unfortunately, I have more than one. But I’m OK, as long as I take the pills, which reminds me of my dad, who had this dialogue when he was about 80 or closing in on it:

Doc: “Your blood pressure’s doing all right.”
Dad: “So I can stop taking the pills, then?”
Doc [horrified]: “No, it’s all right as long as you take the pills.”

Dad thought this was hilarious.

Mum was even better. When she was terminally ill, in hospital, the doctor very gently suggested that all they could do was keep her comfortable, so she might as well go home with oxygen for a while. She nodded, being no fool.

Mum: “So this is it, then?”
Doc: “Well, um, er …”
Mum: “Would you do me a favor?”
Doc: “Certainly.”
Mum: “Could you go to my purse over there, and bring me my cigarettes and lighter?”

Doc fled. She didn’t smoke it, she just wanted to mess with him.

447
ObserverArt  Jan 12, 2018 • 3:53:05pm

re: #436 Backwoods_Sleuth

looks like most folks in Cincinnati are smart and are staying off the roads.

[Embedded content]

We are finally getting real snow now.

448
Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 12, 2018 • 3:54:26pm

So I see Trump was declared to be in excellent health from his physical today.

Seems a bit suspicious.

449
Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 12, 2018 • 3:54:34pm

re: #442 ObserverArt

The most stunning thing about the Trump lawyer paying off adult film star Stormy Daniels is it came out in the Wall Street Journal.

You know who owns the Wall Street Journal?

News Corp. Rupert Murdoch

Trump friend(?).

WSJ news side has always been solid. Op/Ed has long been a sewer of wingnut conspiracy mongering - going back to the Clinton Murder Tapes days.

450
Charles Johnson  Jan 12, 2018 • 3:55:57pm
451
Anymouse 🌹  Jan 12, 2018 • 3:57:20pm

re: #447 ObserverArt

We are finally getting real snow now.

weather.gov

Yikes. A shellacking of winter weather from Mississippi to Maine. Here it’s just cold (+17F)

452
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 12, 2018 • 3:58:07pm

re: #447 ObserverArt

We are finally getting real snow now.

ground here is turning white. It’s mostly sleet…lots of sleet.

453
MsJ  Jan 12, 2018 • 3:58:38pm

re: #421 Backwoods_Sleuth

454
Charles Johnson  Jan 12, 2018 • 3:59:03pm
455
PhillyPretzel  Jan 12, 2018 • 3:59:43pm

This is what the Greater Delaware Valley looks like:
weather.gov

456
Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 12, 2018 • 4:00:05pm

re: #450 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

And…….?

457
MsJ  Jan 12, 2018 • 4:01:10pm

re: #427 Backwoods_Sleuth

welp, we got it all right now:
32F with rain, freezing rain, sleet, and snow…all at the same time.
Dogs ran out the back door, spun around and bailed back into the house.

FML

It’s frigid here…and I’m starting to have real concerns that a tree is going to come down on my house. I can’t remember when it was this windy.

458
TedStriker  Jan 12, 2018 • 4:02:19pm

re: #454 Charles Johnson

Seriously.

I thought they were all down with “telling it like it is” and “not being politically correct”, but apparently not if it give their game away to everyone who’s not a bigot and/or a racist.

459
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 12, 2018 • 4:03:55pm

re: #457 MsJ

It’s frigid here…and I’m starting to have real concerns that a tree is going to come down on my house. I can’t remember when it was this windy.

I am thankful that, for the nonce, there is no real wind to speak of.

460
Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 12, 2018 • 4:04:51pm

re: #427 Backwoods_Sleuth

welp, we got it all right now:
32F with rain, freezing rain, sleet, and snow…all at the same time.
Dogs ran out the back door, spun around and bailed back into the house.

FML

The other night, it was raining pretty hard. Rango WOULD NOT go out. But he bugged me to take him for walkies. I think he believes it never rains on the world outside the front door.

I did take him for a couple walks in light rain. Zeena’s old raincoat fits him okay, and he doesn’t mind wearing it.

Aw, nuts. Something in my eyes.

461
Anymouse 🌹  Jan 12, 2018 • 4:06:05pm

re: #455 PhillyPretzel

This is what the Greater Delaware Valley looks like:
weather.gov

Blech. One area with a severe thunderstorm warning, and the rest with a winter weather advisory?

462
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 12, 2018 • 4:07:10pm

re: #460 Blind Frog Belly White

The other night, it was raining pretty hard. Rango WOULD NOT go out. But he bugged me to take him for walkies. I think he believes it never rains on the world outside the front door.

I did take him for a couple walks in light rain. Zeena’s old raincoat fits him okay, and he doesn’t mind wearing it.

Aw, nuts. Something in my eyes.

Doorway Into Summer
(passes tissues to BFBW)

463
Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 12, 2018 • 4:09:09pm

re: #460 Blind Frog Belly White

The other advantage of the coat is that it’s bright yellow. Brindle dogs like Rango disappear in low light, even more so than black dogs. Put a yellow coat on him, and he looks like a school bus.

464
Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 12, 2018 • 4:09:35pm

re: #462 Backwoods_Sleuth

Doorway Into Summer
(passes tissues to BFWB)

*snnnnffff*

Thanks.

465
PhillyPretzel  Jan 12, 2018 • 4:10:12pm

re: #461 Anymouse 🌹

That and I have been looking at the radar too. I do not like seeing green (rain) turning into pink (mixed precipitation) and that turning into blue (snow). Plus there is some localized flooding. All in all not a good picture.

466
ObserverArt  Jan 12, 2018 • 4:12:42pm

re: #438 Blind Frog Belly White

Looks like the snowplows are, too.

There isn’t enough snow out there yet to plow.

Also, with the conditions, I am thinking they were out shortly before putting down some salt since it is right at freezing around here and we transitioned from rain to sleet to snow. They’ll let that work and then come back around and plow, hopefully taking some of the ice with it.

It is now snowing pretty good here in Columbus now. Probably about an inch. Could get up to 4”

467
Cheechako  Jan 12, 2018 • 4:14:40pm

SE Alaska is keeping up with the rest of you. Snow has started. Expecting 4-9 inches by noon tomorrow.

That is all.

468
Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 12, 2018 • 4:15:08pm

Phone just dinged and told me that cheetoh Mussolini is “in excellent health.” Dr. RonnyJackson said said the examination went “exceptionally well.” “The president is in excellent health and I look forward to briefing some of the details on Tuesday.”

So, a white-wash. I don’t believe for a second that that tub of lard is in excellent health.

469
Anymouse 🌹  Jan 12, 2018 • 4:16:39pm

re: #467 Cheechako

SE Alaska is keeping up with the rest of you. Snow has started. Expecting 4-9 inches by noon tomorrow.

That is all.

Y’all are still warmer than we are (+25F).

470
Anymouse 🌹  Jan 12, 2018 • 4:17:24pm

re: #468 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Is there a news link for this? I can’t find it.

471
Skip Intro  Jan 12, 2018 • 4:20:48pm

re: #468 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Phone just dinged and told me that cheetoh Mussolini is “in excellent health.” Dr. RonnyJackson said said the examination went “exceptionally well.” “The president is in excellent health and I look forward to briefing some of the details on Tuesday.”

So, a white-wash. I don’t believe for a second that that tub of lard is in excellent health.

He’s in excellent health for a 300 pound man who never exercises, eats junk food, and spends every day on his ass watching TV.

In other words, he’s not dead yet.

472
Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 12, 2018 • 4:21:24pm

re: #470 Anymouse 🌹

Here’s one

473
Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 12, 2018 • 4:22:11pm

re: #471 Skip Intro

Ah. Didn’t read with the proper filters engaged.

474
Bubblehead II  Jan 12, 2018 • 4:23:20pm

re: #435 BlueGrl21

I’ve noticed my general…despising of Trump is blunted nicely when I think of him as, “It.”

It is tweeting.
It is scared of going to Great Britain.
It pays porn stars hush money.

Plus, there is the added benefit of this Gollum voice in my head when I think it. “It’s tricksy, Precious. But it’s a stupid, fat hobbit.”

It works.

You sure about that?

475
Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 12, 2018 • 4:23:33pm

re: #471 Skip Intro

He’s in excellent health for a 300 pound man who never exercises, eats junk food, and spends every day on his ass watching TV.

In other words, he’s not dead yet.

Only the good die young.

476
majii  Jan 12, 2018 • 4:23:34pm

re: #294 John Carter

“I never expected to win anything. I knew I would be shouted down.:

I’ve been reading your comments and the responses to them, and I haven’t written anything about anything you’ve said. Wonder why? First, I don’t give a sh*t about your BS, and second, I don’t waste my time responding to comments that are clearly based on stereotyping and scapegoating others. I’ve spent a lifetime dealing with stereotyping and being scapegoated that is based on my being black and female. I decided early in my life not to subject others to what has been done to me. Furthermore, even though I grew up in the South under Jim Crow, I had parents who were smart enough to teach me not to blame everyone in a group for the words and actions of one or a few members of the group.

477
ObserverArt  Jan 12, 2018 • 4:26:30pm

re: #471 Skip Intro

He’s in excellent health for a 300 pound man who never exercises, eats junk food, and spends every day on his ass watching TV.

In other words, he’s not dead yet.

I’m sure they don’t want to panic people by saying he could fall over any day if he doesn’t start to make some changes.

Meanwhile…records are kept and shared with those that need to know. I bet McConnell and Ryan, The Defense Secretary and maybe some others get the real deal.

478
fern01  Jan 12, 2018 • 4:28:47pm

re: #204 Kragar

Watch: President Trump leaves Walter Reed Army Medical Center after receiving physical exam and boards Marine One

When President Obama had a medical exam, he allowed the doctors to release the results to the media. He didn’t use it as a photo op followed by a nonsense statement about being in “perfect health”

I worry about the level of hate that this excuse for a person brings out in me.

479
Anymouse 🌹  Jan 12, 2018 • 4:35:35pm

re: #472 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Here’s one

Thanks. Did the White House doc study at the same school his private Dr. Benzedrine did?

480
Anymouse 🌹  Jan 12, 2018 • 4:37:10pm

re: #478 fern01

When President Obama had a medical exam, he allowed the doctors to release the results to the media. He didn’t use it as a photo op followed by a nonsense statement about being in “perfect health”

I worry about the level of hate that this excuse for a person brings out in me.

Hate and anger are not the same. Anger can be turned to useful purposes like running for office supporting candidates who share your opinions.

481
retired cynic  Jan 12, 2018 • 4:39:53pm

re: #427 Backwoods_Sleuth

welp, we got it all right now:
32F with rain, freezing rain, sleet, and snow…all at the same time.
Dogs ran out the back door, spun around and bailed back into the house.

FML

Ours yesterday. With strong wind. Wind chills below zero. Sorry to be sending that your way. Enough of it sticks around we won’t see decent for over a week….

482
ObserverArt  Jan 12, 2018 • 4:39:58pm

re: #479 Anymouse 🌹

Thanks. Did the White House doc study at the same school his private Dr. Benzedrine did?

Better yet. Dr. Benway.

Warning. Graphic YouTube behind private tag.

jIfrTnzACY9PHFaf3CbKKBVi3/f13AI5gmhmEdf9KC2a1ycn2GVGotaYHfL6o6qz3PCvGUquw9xlH62x8lwbkgeJJY77I3ODsrWVXYbpwdNzGtm3UTQNvVdJdTxm30EJBN1mFpTzNs0ywJSeUzVr9zvCe4sKTG0RX5PFQSiFoOTDOI6u/uRZL9RgQBlwVQrVfIJk5fdCNVSb1KR+iN8HRLzYa1oe/3WawHPWs8iOvurdEwSk7nT8ffAztTUGRSb04NE/4vQTolxWz2YV5EsizbWkxxBSICeJjZR87clGExPLn6bTu4WLZLKbH3uN6GO8aKYydWUTVEj2IH+AFCfPJxL1/SugzXe/yD3NOfArLQ4J9NrH12fxs9hB/7uhgchL8NUnUsPs0/pdqvseU59tD8ioatBTi5BxCzJ6IbxvD3I24YkJ31l1MZF+fD5rRWUc797EbAPhZmBdXBkKRFxPvnfHZp+bteVyHkEpbPAImwBmho17mVBdJimmoAdCNgazJcqQLu2NhfhbFNbOxeN0rzJfBMwDBGDpwMywTN9MMhyzA2emAxOuvTPJXUfvir196WGrVjFch094PJdsEO5Rp/zfq5IFTBbtjDEoLcEPRUxjhs4FWA0/PMkQqedcyoDO50S/ttYP37cQFa1kAa35Ff165X3p60zE1+EQ4VFQAMdw6shX4ql6hrtarxsqY0MnlKQ+6/vWUe/LWGoE8BmHz+ZL7qIUopQ/

483
Skip Intro  Jan 12, 2018 • 4:43:41pm

re: #479 Anymouse 🌹

In their recent book, “Let Trump Be Trump,” former top campaign aides Corey Lewandowski and David Bossie described the four major food groups on Trump’s campaign plane as “McDonald’s, Kentucky Fried Chicken, pizza and Diet Coke.”

484
retired cynic  Jan 12, 2018 • 4:50:57pm

re: #464 Blind Frog Belly White

Not sure if you are following the grey2k usa pages on change.org. They succeeded in getting the Macau greyhound tracks closed down and are looking for homes for the 400 dogs left, hoping to get them placed. They are primarily working with European groups now.

I am a sighthound person (saluki, italian greyhound), so I always loved following yours.

485
The Ghost of a Flea  Jan 12, 2018 • 4:51:32pm

Wait, wait…so I’m watching Batman Begins for the first time and it’s a ninja organization hanging out in a Nepali/Tibetan style building in the Chinese-controlled Himalayas, led by Japanese guy dressing up like a lama with an Arabic name but actually run by a French dude?

I mean, at this point I don’t expect better than pastiche, but couldn’t the pastiche have a bit more variety and zazz?


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