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Seth takes a closer look at how Trump has pulled off another successful pivot — this time from a conversation about whether he’s mentally unstable to a conversation about the fact that he’s a racist.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 15, 2018 • 7:26:46pm

But but but Trump said sh*thouse and not sh*thole so….
But but but Cotton and Perdue evolved from not recalling to not hearing.
But but but Durbin is a renowned liar.
But but but Haiti and all African countries are poor.
But but but Trump’s not racist because the unemployment rate for Blacks is at a historical low.

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BeachDem  Jan 15, 2018 • 7:37:17pm

Back to that WaPo article about the meeting. I had not heard this part before:

Attendees who were alarmed by the racial undertones of Trump’s remarks were further disturbed when the topic of the Congressional Black Caucus (CBC) came up, these people said.

At one point, Durbin told the president that members of that caucus — an influential House group — would be more likely to agree to a deal if certain countries were included in the proposed protections, according to people familiar with the meeting.

Trump was curt and dismissive, saying he was not making immigration policy to cater to the CBC and did not particularly care about that bloc’s demands, according to people briefed on the meeting

Oh, and Lawrence was hammering him with a sledgehammer on tonight’s show opening.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 15, 2018 • 7:38:01pm

My new t-shirt, a Xmas gift from my sis-in-law, got a very positive reception at happy hour tonight, but then again I live in downtown NYC, which then again is not far from where the so-called president is from. Anyway, folks really liked the shirt. Thanks sis-in-law Karen!

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jaunte  Jan 15, 2018 • 7:39:00pm
a conversation about whether he’s mentally unstable to a conversation about the fact that he’s a racist

Now becomes a conversation about how he’s a pathological racist liar.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 15, 2018 • 7:42:29pm

You know it’s a crappy week when you’re driving to the hospital to stand nightwatch on your scary-sick wife and some Unortunate t-bones you in sight of the parking lot. We were starting to like that mommyvan.

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whitebeach  Jan 15, 2018 • 7:50:47pm

re: #5 Decatur Deb

You know it’s a crappy week when you’re driving to the hospital to stand nightwatch on your scary-sick wife and some Unortunate t-bones you in sight of the parking lot. We were starting to like that mommyvan.

Aw man. You’re physically OK, I hope? For whatever it’s worth, I think everybody on this site, and I’ll bet many more besides, are wishing for the best for you both.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 15, 2018 • 7:51:20pm

re: #5 Decatur Deb

You know it’s a crappy week when you’re driving to the hospital to stand nightwatch on your scary-sick wife and some Unortunate t-bones you in sight of the parking lot. We were starting to like that mommyvan.

Hopefully everyone is ok. That’s how someone killed my Grand Am.

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allegro  Jan 15, 2018 • 7:53:46pm

re: #7 Hecuba’s daughter

Hopefully everyone is ok. That’s how someone killed my Grand Am.

My brain at first reversed the two letters in the last word. I was OMG! I am so sorry about your grand… car?

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calochortus  Jan 15, 2018 • 7:54:19pm

re: #5 Decatur Deb

You know it’s a crappy week when you’re driving to the hospital to stand nightwatch on your scary-sick wife and some Unortunate t-bones you in sight of the parking lot. We were starting to like that mommyvan.

Just what you didn’t need. I trust you’re OK? I hope your wife is improving.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 15, 2018 • 7:56:00pm

re: #6 whitebeach

Aw man. You’re physically OK, I hope? For whatever it’s worth, I think everybody on this site, and I’ll bet many more besides, are wishing for the best for you both.

All is cool, both of us walked away. Both vehicles probably totalled, everybody insured. We’ll let the gecko and the duck fight it out over the scrap iron.

Did I mention I love the shit out of airbags, even the ‘splody Toyota kind?

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whitebeach  Jan 15, 2018 • 7:58:11pm

re: #1 Patricia Kayden

But but but Trump’s not racist because the unemployment rate for Blacks is at a historical low.

Well, it’s actually not a historical low, but Orange Julius is working hard to get it down to the historical low, which was 0%, back in 1860.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 15, 2018 • 8:00:39pm

re: #9 calochortus

Just what you didn’t need. I trust you’re OK? I hope your wife is improving.

Thanks (all). She improved so much today they might let her out on Thurs. She said I should get check out. I told yer since I’m staying the night in her room, I’d just take the elevator to the ER if needed. The sad joke is that the hospital is so whacked from the flu emergency that they might bump me across town or to Tallahassee.

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calochortus  Jan 15, 2018 • 8:02:18pm

re: #10 Decatur Deb

All is cool, both of us walked away. Both vehicles probably totalled, everybody insured. We’ll let the gecko and the duck fight it out over the scrap iron.

Did I mention I love the shit out of airbags, even the ‘splody Toyota kind?

Yeah. I gained a whole new appreciation of side airbags when an Idiot Young Person totaled my car a couple months ago.

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Belafon  Jan 15, 2018 • 8:06:20pm
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Decatur Deb  Jan 15, 2018 • 8:10:22pm

re: #13 calochortus

Yeah. I gained a whole new appreciation of side airbags when an Idiot Young Person totaled my car a couple months ago.

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That’s lousy. This could still go bad, but the nice police-mon already dropped the dunce cap on her—passed me while I was turning left from in front of her.

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allegro  Jan 15, 2018 • 8:13:47pm

With what’s fixin to blow into Houston early tomorrow morning which will result in a day of freezing temps and precipitation we’re going to be seeing crashes at every stoplight. There will be some nasty accidents on the freeways. Most all of those accidents will be caused by jackasses who ignore the ice warnings and hit their gas pedals followed by slamming the brakes. We do not do ice here. Freaking deadly.

City is about shutting down fortunately. A friend/neighbor is staying home and we’re gonna celebrate her “snow day” (we might even see some of that white stuff falling) with a Guardians of the Galaxy double feature as we snuggle under afghans with the dogs and cats. Got plenty of hot coffee and homemade apple butter!

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meteor  Jan 15, 2018 • 8:14:21pm
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allegro  Jan 15, 2018 • 8:15:18pm

re: #15 Decatur Deb

That’s lousy. This could still go bad, but the nice police-mon already dropped the dunce cap on her—passed me while I was turning left from in front of her.

Confused. Was it on double turn lanes?

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Decatur Deb  Jan 15, 2018 • 8:16:13pm

re: #16 allegro

Daughter2 says Birningham AL has already shut down schools and businesses in prep.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 15, 2018 • 8:16:20pm
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Belafon  Jan 15, 2018 • 8:17:00pm

re: #16 allegro

With what’s fixin to blow into Houston early tomorrow morning which will result in a day of freezing temps and precipitation we’re going to be seeing crashes at every stoplight. There will be some nasty accidents on the freeways. Most all of those accidents will be caused by jackasses who ignore the ice warnings and hit their gas pedals followed by slamming the brakes. We do not do ice here. Freaking deadly.

City is about shutting down fortunately. A friend/neighbor is staying home and we’re gonna celebrate her “snow day” (we might even see some of that white stuff falling) with a Guardians of the Galaxy double feature as we snuggle under afghans with the dogs and cats. Got plenty of hot coffee and homemade apple butter!

We’re watching it up here in Rockwall. Our little county is right on the edge. We may get cold and precipitation, but not enough to affect road conditions. So, we’ll see.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 15, 2018 • 8:17:47pm

re: #20 Charles Johnson

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We knew it’d be bad but damn.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 15, 2018 • 8:18:21pm

re: #18 allegro

Confused. Was it on double turn lanes?

2=lane street w/ middle alternating turn lane.

(Just moved an old laptop to the hosp, Wanky wifi,)

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jaunte  Jan 15, 2018 • 8:20:01pm

This is fun:

23-year-old musician, composer and multi-instrumentalist Jacob Collier explains the concept of harmony to 5 different people; a child, a teen, a college student, a professional, and jazz legend Herbie Hancock.

Musician Explains One Concept in 5 Levels of Difficulty ft. Jacob Collier & Herbie Hancock | WIRED

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Belafon  Jan 15, 2018 • 8:20:25pm

re: #20 Charles Johnson

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I don’t know. I remember how panicked we were a year ago. And then I remember people stepping up and taking him on. It seems less terrifying now.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 15, 2018 • 8:23:23pm

re: #25 Belafon

I don’t know. I remember how panicked we were a year ago. And then I remember people stepping up and taking him on. It seems less terrifying now.

I’m encouraged by the resistance. Concerned about the damage already done. That story about that father being deported just broke my heart.

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calochortus  Jan 15, 2018 • 8:26:44pm

re: #26 HappyWarrior

I’m encouraged by the resistance. Concerned about the damage already done. That story about that father being deported just broke my heart.

I just find it hard to believe people want to be that unkind.

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jaunte  Jan 15, 2018 • 8:27:56pm
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Citizen K  Jan 15, 2018 • 8:28:06pm

re: #20 Charles Johnson

Even in my darkest worries did I not foresee the literal re-mainstreaming of Nazi-ism.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 15, 2018 • 8:31:24pm

re: #27 calochortus

I just find it hard to believe people want to be that unkind.

Most people are good. But our system did not reward the popular majority. That said they’re not going strike good twice.

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Kragar  Jan 15, 2018 • 8:35:42pm
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plansbandc  Jan 15, 2018 • 8:36:44pm

re: #22 HappyWarrior

It’s every bit the shit show I knew it would be. But knowing what was coming still doesn’t prepare you for how painful and depressing it is.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 15, 2018 • 8:37:48pm

re: #32 plansbandc

It’s every bit the shit show I knew it would be. But knowing what was coming still doesn’t prepare you for how painful and depressing it is.

Yep imagining it and living it. He’s just such an ass. The worst though are his supporters.

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calochortus  Jan 15, 2018 • 8:38:45pm

re: #30 HappyWarrior

Most people are good. But our system did not reward the popular majority. That said they’re not going strike good twice.

Oh, I know. I just prefer a world of rainbows and unicorns and all.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 15, 2018 • 8:39:27pm

re: #31 Kragar

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Yeah I’m sure it would have gone over just fine if Obama described Republican voters as living in shitholes.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 15, 2018 • 8:43:38pm

re: #35 HappyWarrior

Yeah I’m sure it would have gone over just fine if Obama described Republican voters as living in shitholes.

But Faux alleges he did, saying that they hang on to their guns and religion…

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HappyWarrior  Jan 15, 2018 • 8:43:41pm

re: #34 calochortus

Oh, I know. I just prefer a world of rainbows and unicorns and all.

I’m actually optimistic about this year. Just hope we can get rid of him and Pence.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 15, 2018 • 8:44:12pm

re: #36 Joe Bacon 🌹

But Faux alleges he did, saying that they hang on to their guns and religion…

Which they prove correct all the time.

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Pineapple Pizzagate  Jan 15, 2018 • 8:50:03pm

re: #31 Kragar

Speaking of “supposed to stay private”, Mark…

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HappyWarrior  Jan 15, 2018 • 8:51:11pm

re: #39 Pineapple Pizzagate

Speaking of “supposed to stay private”, Mark…

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That’s different.//

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calochortus  Jan 15, 2018 • 8:51:46pm

Well, I’m out for the evening.
Hasta mañana, Lizards.

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jaunte  Jan 15, 2018 • 8:55:34pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 15, 2018 • 8:56:38pm

re: #42 jaunte

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Makes it that much better.

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austin_blue  Jan 15, 2018 • 8:56:43pm

re: #16 allegro

With what’s fixin to blow into Houston early tomorrow morning which will result in a day of freezing temps and precipitation we’re going to be seeing crashes at every stoplight. There will be some nasty accidents on the freeways. Most all of those accidents will be caused by jackasses who ignore the ice warnings and hit their gas pedals followed by slamming the brakes. We do not do ice here. Freaking deadly.

City is about shutting down fortunately. A friend/neighbor is staying home and we’re gonna celebrate her “snow day” (we might even see some of that white stuff falling) with a Guardians of the Galaxy double feature as we snuggle under afghans with the dogs and cats. Got plenty of hot coffee and homemade apple butter!

City of Austin, Austin School District, and UT have already made the call and shut down for tomorrow. Now if I can only find my crampons, I might be able to retrieve the paper tomorrow. Oh, wait…

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mmmirele  Jan 15, 2018 • 9:01:30pm

re: #12 Decatur Deb

Thanks (all). She improved so much today they might let her out on Thurs. She said I should get check out. I told yer since I’m staying the night in her room, I’d just take the elevator to the ER if needed. The sad joke is that the hospital is so whacked from the flu emergency that they might bump me across town or to Tallahassee.

So glad you are OK!!!

But, don’t be weird about this. If you feel even the least bit of a twinge or pain or strange, get it checked out, even if it means taking a taxi to the Tallahassee hospital. My brother got smashed into by a hit and run driver last May and even though the car was repairable, my brother also got damaged. He ended up getting two vertebrae in his neck fused last month as a result of the accident.

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jaunte  Jan 15, 2018 • 9:01:35pm
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jaunte  Jan 15, 2018 • 9:02:34pm

“…Podliska eventually dropped from his lawsuit the claim he was fired because he refused to focus on Clinton. His December 2016 settlement, which covered the veterans status and retaliation claims, was reported by The Washington Post at the time without the settlement amount. The committee did not admit wrongdoing as part of the agreement.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 15, 2018 • 9:02:52pm

re: #46 jaunte

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Hmmm!

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GrantS  Jan 15, 2018 • 9:09:58pm

To call Trump a shithole is offensive to other shitholes. They are far better than Trump.

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majii  Jan 15, 2018 • 9:11:24pm

re: #46 jaunte

About Gowdy: The first time I saw him was on an episode of a crime story on one of CNN’s local channels here in GA. He was a bigwig attorney in S.C. at the time. I remember thinking at the time that he looked like a slimy-*ss weasel. I saw him after he became a member of Congress, and he looked even slimier. If he gave up the chairmanship because he’s embarrassed about his underhanded shenanigans and hypocrisy, color me surprised. I never thought he ever had a conscience. I do hope he’s headed for retirement sooner rather than later. He’s a lying, hateful, wasteful, SOB.

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jaunte  Jan 15, 2018 • 9:12:16pm

re: #50 majii

I think he’s taking his money and bailing while he can.

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jaunte  Jan 15, 2018 • 9:13:02pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 15, 2018 • 9:13:12pm

re: #47 jaunte

“…Podliska eventually dropped from his lawsuit the claim he was fired because he refused to focus on Clinton. His December 2016 settlement, which covered the veterans status and retaliation claims, was reported by The Washington Post at the time without the settlement amount. The committee did not admit wrongdoing as part of the agreement.

The entire Republican party is corrupt to its core. But so are the voters who support them. Racism runs deep in this country, and the election of Obama brought out the hatred, which propelled Trump to victory.

I suppose one could also argue that Chairman Putin, Faux Noise, Limbaugh, Breitbart and others may have brainwashed a large segment of the population who might otherwise have listened to reason.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 15, 2018 • 9:17:09pm

re: #50 majii

About Gowdy: The first time I saw him was on an episode of a crime story on one of CNN’s local channels here in GA. He was a bigwig attorney in S.C. at the time. I remember thinking at the time that he looked like a slimy-*ss weasel. I saw him after he became a member of Congress, and he looked even slimier. If he gave up the chairmanship because he’s embarrassed about his underhanded shenanigans and hypocrisy, color me surprised. I never thought he ever had a conscience. I do hope he’s headed for retirement sooner rather than later. He’s a lying, hateful, wasteful, SOB.

He doesn’t have a conscience. He would not give up a chairmanship because he thought it was the right thing to do — he has no sense of morality. He would only take such an action if he were forced to by others.

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majii  Jan 15, 2018 • 9:17:21pm

re: #51 jaunte

“I think he’s taking his money and bailing while he can.”

That might be his best move. I’d love to see an ethics investigation launched against him since he’s never missed an opportunity to launch investigations against his political opponents. He got kind of quiet for a while after HRC sat cool as a cucumber through more than 10 hours of testimony while he ended up looking like a mop in need of wringing.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 15, 2018 • 9:20:25pm

Already got an RWNJ on Facebook running his mouth about how Democrats plan to shut down the government because we won’t let all the illegals in and make them citizens.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 15, 2018 • 9:23:14pm

re: #56 Eclectic Cyborg

Already got an RWNJ on Facebook running his mouth about how Democrats plan to shut down the government because we won’t let all the illegals in and make them citizens.

EC, just what I need. And I see nuts over at Talking Points Memo comment boards saying there’s nothing wrong with shutting the government down till the end of the year. And then not paying Civil Servants for working during the shutdown.

Frankly I wouldn’t be surprised to see Trump try to pull that off—force us “essential” workers to slave for six weeks with no pay…

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VaughnIAM  Jan 15, 2018 • 9:26:10pm

re: #47 jaunte
“…Podliska eventually dropped from his lawsuit the claim he was fired because he refused to focus on Clinton. His December 2016 settlement, which covered the veterans status and retaliation claims, was reported by The Washington Post at the time without the settlement amount. The committee did not admit wrongdoing as part of the agreement.

I’m betting the committee lawyer offered the settlement if he would drop the Clinton part
from his lawsuit.

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jaunte  Jan 15, 2018 • 9:27:50pm

re: #58 VaughnIAM

Public funds, to cover up wrongdoing in a private political vendetta.

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jaunte  Jan 15, 2018 • 9:28:22pm

We’re going to need more special prosecutors.

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austin_blue  Jan 15, 2018 • 9:30:45pm

Down to 40º. 21 degrees in two hours. Cold, lashing rain, and wind gusts out of the north to 30 MPH. Pretty impressive frontal passage.

Oh, and Drumpf is still a racist, pussy-grabbing, shit-heel grifter son-of-a-bitch who is a joke of a caricature of a chimera of an actual human being.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 15, 2018 • 9:32:23pm

Fear #2—Trump will keep the government shut down to hamstring Mueller.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 15, 2018 • 9:32:33pm

Piss off Haitians, expect some pay back.

Probably anything in those documents will roll off Trump’s back like water off a duck, but I’m sure Mueller would be interested in them.

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austin_blue  Jan 15, 2018 • 9:35:28pm

re: #59 jaunte

Public funds, to cover up wrongdoing in a private political vendetta.

The fact that even a fraction of a penny of my tax dollars paid for that makes me want to suggest that everyone in the country should punch Gowdy in the nose whenever they encounter him on the street.

Actually, let’s extend that to every elected R in the country. These people have no shame. Perhaps we should introduce them to it.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 15, 2018 • 9:51:18pm

re: #62 Joe Bacon 🌹

Fear #2—Trump will keep the government shut down to hamstring Mueller.

I’m confident Mueller has a contingency plan ready to go.

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austin_blue  Jan 15, 2018 • 10:05:05pm

re: #65 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m confident Mueller has a contingency plan ready to go.

Me too. I expect there’s a stack of indictments sitting in his office. If they cut his funding rather than firing him, I wouldn’t be surprised if Donnie the Lesser and Jared the Incompetent get served.

They are both in the conspiracy up to their necks. That would be some sweet Karmic revenge.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jan 15, 2018 • 10:16:24pm

explodes several wingnut myths

boston business journal:

Are labor shortages curbing economic growth in the U.S.?

Middle market companies across industries are having difficulty filling open positions, particularly those requiring skilled labor. According to the third quarter RSM US Middle Market Leadership Council survey, 72 percent of companies are struggling (to some or a great extent) to find skilled labor, while 42 percent are experiencing the same level of difficulty with unskilled labor.

The unemployment rate in the United States is currently 4.1 percent, in line with what the Federal Reserve considers full employment. Meanwhile, in the past year, a high percentage of middle market businesses made permanent job offers for roles requiring skilled labor (86 percent); companies offered roles requiring unskilled labor to a somewhat lessor degree (71 percent), according to the report.
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While a labor shortage may be good for employees negotiating compensation and or choosing between offers, it also can curb economic growth. The Federal Reserve noted that labor shortages and the increased labor costs associated with attracting workers were restraining growth in a number of its districts, notably in manufacturing, construction and transportation.

bizjournals.com

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Cheechako  Jan 15, 2018 • 10:20:17pm

For everyone freezing their asses off in the lower 48, you’re welcome to come up to the Alaska panhandle to warm up. Yesterday was 52f (new record by +2f) and today was 50f.

The Pineapple Express from Hawaii is working it’s magic.

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austin_blue  Jan 15, 2018 • 10:24:01pm

Well, I’m off for the rack. The temperature here continues to drop and the moisture pulse from the west is approaching. It could be a pretty bad ice storm.

We’ve got food and DVDs. She Who Must Be Obeyed went to Central Market and the lines were like at Thanksgiving. Hopefully the power lines don’t drop.

Sweet dreams, all. Talk atcha tomorrow if I’ve got power.

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freetoken  Jan 15, 2018 • 10:24:30pm

re: #67 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

The reality that Trumpers have ignored from the beginning is that their personal crises (existential, financial, etc.) are not indicative of the nation as a whole.

By 2016 the US economy was on a path to full recover from the Great Recession of 2008.

Because pockets of the rust belt still have problems was not and is not indicative of the nation as a whole.

What we do have is a debt problem, personal and local government. This has more to do with systemic issues related to wealth transferring into the small minority and the majority not accumulating (enumerated) wealth.

The Republican tax bill is going to cause a debt crises for no reason other than to have the rich become richer. It will not make joe plumber any more employable or otherwise benefitted.

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retired cynic  Jan 15, 2018 • 11:03:54pm

re: #20 Charles Johnson

Definitely worse than I thought it would be, and I was horrified and crying the night of the election.

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retired cynic  Jan 15, 2018 • 11:13:54pm

Oh,, and three articles to post for night reading:

Nancy LeTourneau with a lovely compendium of things for MLK Day.

Rude Pundit with a not-so-lovely essay about MLK Day (Africa Edition)

Martin Longman on why McConnell and Ryan may have ridden the “no-compromise” train as far as it will go. (I’ll believe it when I see it.)

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 15, 2018 • 11:26:48pm
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Single-handed sailor  Jan 16, 2018 • 12:14:48am

Windows Store doesn’t carry iTunes….strange.

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Kragar  Jan 16, 2018 • 12:38:09am

re: #74 Single-handed sailor

Probably because its an Apple product

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 16, 2018 • 12:40:49am

re: #75 Kragar

Probably because its an Apple product

You can’t get MS Office for a Mac?

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Lupin  Jan 16, 2018 • 2:11:58am

A couple of days ago I used the rough approximation of 30% sane people (who vote D), 30% lunatics (who vote R) and 30% morons who’d rather stay home than vote.

Someone here said the Rs were more like 28%. Considering the mind-blowing approval rating of 39% (as per 538) I was wondering where the 28% figure came from?

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Scout  Jan 16, 2018 • 2:28:44am

Well, we just had our own little missile false alarm:

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wheat-dogg  Jan 16, 2018 • 3:22:42am

re: #78 Scout

Well, we just had our own little missile false alarm:

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Between Trump’s daily drama and Kim’s continued belligerence, people are getting just a little too jumpy.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 16, 2018 • 4:33:04am

Thomas Crapper would be proud, a touch free flushing toilet.

It’s a germophobes dream come true: Never having to touch a toilet handle again.

With the latest Numi toilet from Kohler, you can simply ask it to “flush” and it will comply. If you forget, it will flush itself anyway.

The toilet also lets you choose the color of ambient lighting and the music from its speakers. At night, the lid automatically opens as you approach and the seat warmer activates. It flushes and closes the lid as you leave.

But can it provide reading material? Yes, the manual.

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meteor  Jan 16, 2018 • 4:47:10am

re: #60 jaunte

And a bigger boat.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 16, 2018 • 4:47:49am

re: #10 Decatur Deb

All is cool, both of us walked away. Both vehicles probably totalled, everybody insured. We’ll let the gecko and the duck fight it out over the scrap iron.

Did I mention I love the shit out of airbags, even the ‘splody Toyota kind?

Those takata air bags are in Fords too!! I got my pee pee slapped for to mention that earlier.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 16, 2018 • 5:02:28am

OT, but I was saying the other day I wished there was more of Michelle Yeoh in the Star Trek:Discovery series. Today I watched episode 11 and there she was! Discovery is in a parallel universe and Yeoh plays the Emperor in that environment.

So far, I have not been able to work in same magic wishing Trump would leave (or be removed from) office. My powers must be weak.

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Weaselone  Jan 16, 2018 • 5:23:35am

re: #77 Lupin

Novoters account for 40+ percent of the population. When people use the 28 percent figure, they’re usually talking about percentage of the total eligible voting population that will go out and vote for a Republican. Support polls are a little different. If you only poll voters then a far higher percentage of them will be Republican partisans than the general population, so level of support will show as higher. If you poll the general population, many will pick a side, which would pad the percentages on both sides, even though the accurate answer for them is ” my opinion doesn’t matter because I don’t vote”.

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Targetpractice  Jan 16, 2018 • 5:40:23am

re: #83 wheat-dogg

OT, but I was saying the other day I wished there was more of Michelle Yeoh in the Star Trek:Discovery series. Today I watched episode 11 and there she was! Discovery is in a parallel universe and Yeoh plays the Emperor in that environment.

So far, I have not been able to work in same magic wishing Trump would leave (or be removed from) office. My powers must be weak.

*clears throat* Thanks for the spoilers.

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ObserverArt  Jan 16, 2018 • 5:52:46am

Morning.

Many times LGF members plead that our media call Trump and his supporters out for lying. We often say they dance around the word and never come out and call a lie a lie.

The first few minutes of Morning Joke should be of some comfort.

Watch this clip from the show and count the time you hear the word lie.

There are many that claim Morning Joke is the show in the morning for many in DC politics as they are in the gyms working out, or watching while eating breakfast and getting ready for their days.

Let’s hope they are all hearing it…LIE, LIE, LIE.

Hey, it’s a start. I’m not a big fan of Joke, but I give him and MSNBC credit for getting a little tougher with The Baby in The White House Romper Room.

That got my attention. I usually turn to local news after the first commercial. but I hung in to see where they would go next.

The second (longer) video is extra points to Joke for pointing out that John Kelley is not the moderating control everyone hoped for. Like Charles and others here have worried…he is just as much a hard liner as anyone. He had as much to do with the screwed up Trump/Durbin/Graham meeting as anyone. Joe and panel cover that pretty well.

And then Joe gives Democrats a warning that many here at LGF have sort of covered and I have to agree. The Democrats have to absolutely refuse to give Trump a bailout on a budget and hold for a clear DACA bill to go with the budget. Like LGF members have been saying…it is the Republican government, let them be responsible for shutting it down…let them take the hits.

He says any compromise will hurt the Democrats with their voters that almost all agree to hold the fort. Gotta agree.

Two good videos and again, I give Joke credit. Now Democrats need to follow the advice and refuse to save any Republican butts.

Iframe

Iframe

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Targetpractice  Jan 16, 2018 • 5:59:03am

re: #86 ObserverArt

My advice to the part still stands: Announce publicly that the DNC will be standing back, will not filibuster any spending bill that the GOP puts forward, and watch the fireworks. One of two things will happen: The GOP will get their shit together long enough to actually pass a bill or they’ll dissolve into quarreling over just how far to the right to drag the bill.

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darthstar  Jan 16, 2018 • 6:10:09am
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dangerman  Jan 16, 2018 • 6:10:12am

Over the last few days there have been a few posts about mashup music

i have one. I can’t link to it because it’s only in my brain. and i know exactly where it came from.

a couple of people, including me posted the kinks Ape Man recently
and when we were talking about female led bands, i included Angel Band

so during this morning’s run the pace i was going led these two songs to seamlessly wander back and forth in my noggin.

YouTube

YouTube

dont ask me why. just the way it is

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Belafon  Jan 16, 2018 • 6:14:32am

re: #72 retired cynic

Oh,, and three articles to post for night reading:

Nancy LeTourneau with a lovely compendium of things for MLK Day.

Rude Pundit with a not-so-lovely essay about MLK Day (Africa Edition)

Martin Longman on why McConnell and Ryan may have ridden the “no-compromise” train as far as it will go. (I’ll believe it when I see it.)

You don’t know you’ve gone too far until you pass that point.

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dangerman  Jan 16, 2018 • 6:18:02am

re: #20 Charles Johnson

Am I the only one feeling a little shell-shocked after this past year? I mean, I knew it would be horrible but damn.

i expected nothing different from the prez

naively i thought congress would have stepped up any one of dozens of times when it was clearly “enough is enough”. on that i was way wrong

history will brutalize mcconnell and ryan for selling their party’s collective soul and worse, for destroying the back and forth, regular order, participatory, two party workings of congress

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Weaselone  Jan 16, 2018 • 6:26:12am

re: #86 ObserverArt

Some quick take-aways from the videos.
1. Those were actually good segments and good coverage of the issue, particularly compared to some Newspaper headlines which have been doing the Trump says:…. and Cotton says… game.
2. For its flaws, the Washington Post is still doing some great reporting. There’s no doubt that by the end of this, it’s probably going to eclipse the New York Times as the paper of record at least for political and investigative journalism.
3. Apparently, Trump isn’t the biggest bigot in his administration. He might blurt out the vilest crap, but policy wise he’s open to a DACA deal while useless piles of garbage like Kelly and Miller are not. We can also count Senators, Cotton and Purdue as bigger garbage people than Trump.
4. DACA’s probably dead, not because of Trump, but because of Republican bigots in the Senate and his administration are trying to kill it.
5. Trump was apparently OK with Graham and Durbin’s deal at some point prior to the meeting. After Kelly and Miller intervened, he wasn’t. Given his penchant to regurgitate what he’s just heard, I suspect the “shithole/shithouse” comment and other charged language may actually originated with Kelly and Miller.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 16, 2018 • 6:28:21am
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ObserverArt  Jan 16, 2018 • 6:31:21am

re: #92 Weaselone

Some quick take-aways from the videos.
1. Those were actually good segments and good coverage of the issue, particularly compared to some Newspaper headlines which have been doing the Trump says:…. and Cotton says… game.
2. For its flaws, the Washington Post is still doing some great reporting. There’s no doubt that by the end of this, it’s probably going to eclipse the New York Times as the paper of record at least for political and investigative journalism.
3. Apparently, Trump isn’t the biggest bigot in his administration. He might blurt out the vilest crap, but policy wise he’s open to a DACA deal while useless piles of garbage like Kelly and Miller are not. We can also count Senators, Cotton and Purdue as bigger garbage people than Trump.
4. DACA’s probably dead, not because of Trump, but because of Republican bigots in the Senate and his administration are trying to kill it.
5. Trump was apparently OK with Graham and Durbin’s deal at some point prior to the meeting. After Kelly and Miller intervened, he wasn’t. Given his penchant to regurgitate what he’s just heard, I suspect the “shithole/shithouse” comment and other charged language may actually originated with Kelly and Miller.

Pretty solid take.

DACA probably dead is interesting. If it is, then that will really hurt the Republicans and Trump…bigle’. My understanding is DACA enjoys 60%+ approval and even a good portion of Republican congress people realize it is needed.

A lot is going to become clearer as this week trudges on.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 16, 2018 • 6:33:53am
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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 16, 2018 • 6:37:57am

The good news is that the employee who pressed the wrong button twice and caused the Great Hawaii Missile Warning Apocalypse has been promoted and transferred to Strategic Missile command. I love civil service.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 16, 2018 • 6:38:18am

Can’t say good morning. Just horrified at the news of all those kids held and tortured at a home here in California. Charges include torture.
cbsnews.com

Neighbors describe shock of learning 13 kids allegedly held captive by parents

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jeffreyw  Jan 16, 2018 • 6:39:25am

Imgur


Good morning!

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 16, 2018 • 6:40:22am

re: #97 Unshaken Defiance

Can’t say good morning. Just horrified at the news of all those kids held and tortured at a home here in California. Charges include torture.
cbsnews.com

That’s one of those bizarre stories that crop up from time to time. Too early to tell, and I don’t know how accurate some of the backstory is, but seems to me there’s some kind of weird cultism at play.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 16, 2018 • 6:41:49am

re: #96 Shropshire Slasher

Maybe he has a cousin or something in Japan?

Japan’s public broadcaster mistakenly sent an alert warning citizens of a North Korean missile launch and urging them to seek immediate shelter, then retracted it minutes later, days after a similar error in Hawaii.

NHK television issued the message Tuesday on its internet and mobile news sites as well as on Twitter, saying North Korea appeared to have fired a missile at Japan. It said the government was telling people to take shelter.

The false alarm came two days after Hawaii’s emergency management department sent a mistaken warning of a North Korean missile attack to mobile phones across the state, triggering panic.

NHK deleted its tweet after several minutes, issued a correction and apologized several times on air. It said a mistake in using the alert system caused the error.

talkingpointsmemo.com

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 16, 2018 • 6:45:17am

re: #98 jeffreyw

ummm, your kitty looks a little, feral.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 16, 2018 • 6:45:24am

re: #99 Dr Lizardo

That’s one of those bizarre stories that crop up from time to time. Too early to tell, and I don’t know how accurate some of the backstory is, but seems to me there’s some kind of weird cultism at play.

Registered as a private non religious school. *Shudder*.

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makeitstop  Jan 16, 2018 • 6:47:47am
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FormerDirtDart  Jan 16, 2018 • 6:49:22am

Can’t help but think any other time in history people would be screaming at the top of their lungs to be wary of this bubble

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makeitstop  Jan 16, 2018 • 6:51:21am

Fair question.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 16, 2018 • 6:51:23am

re: #104 FormerDirtDart

Inflation is my worry. I went through my portfolio and made sure I divested myself of all bond related stuff.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 16, 2018 • 6:52:32am

re: #105 makeitstop

Threw the lady a couple of hundred grand just because he creamed his jeans I bet.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 16, 2018 • 6:53:22am
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MsJ  Jan 16, 2018 • 6:54:47am

re: #107 Shropshire Slasher

Threw the lady a couple of hundred grand just because he creamed his jeans I bet.

More likely that he couldn’t cream anywhere.

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Belafon  Jan 16, 2018 • 6:56:48am

re: #104 FormerDirtDart

Can’t help but think any other time in history people would be screaming at the top of their lungs to be wary of this bubble

Let’s see: Lower taxes on businesses, encouraging people to buy stock to get dividends. This rise doesn’t mean what they think it does.

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ObserverArt  Jan 16, 2018 • 6:57:20am

re: #98 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Okay…that image needs an explanation.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2018 • 6:57:27am

re: #108 FormerDirtDart

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Yeah that’s not exactly groundbreaking news.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 16, 2018 • 6:59:44am

re: #76 Single-handed sailor

You can’t get MS Office for a Mac?

Yes you can. I go to Microsoft’s store to get it. I use Office 365 for Mac.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 16, 2018 • 7:00:51am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 16, 2018 • 7:01:53am

re: #88 darthstar

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Phony Joni needs to be fired in 2020!

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Citizen K  Jan 16, 2018 • 7:03:18am

re: #114 FormerDirtDart

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Sir John Barron  Jan 16, 2018 • 7:04:51am

re: #116 Citizen K

The all caps are a nice touch.

//

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Sir John Barron  Jan 16, 2018 • 7:07:36am

re: #116 Citizen K

DOJ, DHS REPORT: THREE OUT OF FOUR INDIVIDUALS CONVICTED OF INTERNATIONAL TERRORISM AND TERRORISM-RELATED OFFENSES WERE FOREIGN-BORN justice.gov
— Justice Department

Needs a MAGA hashtag.

/

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Citizen K  Jan 16, 2018 • 7:08:07am

re: #117 Sir John Barron

The all caps are a nice touch.

//

It certainly comes off as totally serious and worth paying attention to.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 16, 2018 • 7:08:35am

re: #56 Eclectic Cyborg

Already got an RWNJ on Facebook running his mouth about how Democrats plan to shut down the government because we won’t let all the illegals in and make them citizens.

And your pushback was?

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 16, 2018 • 7:08:47am
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Patricia Kayden  Jan 16, 2018 • 7:09:54am

re: #114 FormerDirtDart

Daniel Dale is a treasure.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 16, 2018 • 7:11:07am
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Sir John Barron  Jan 16, 2018 • 7:11:40am

re: #119 Citizen K

It certainly comes off as totally serious and worth paying attention to.

Very professional, classy, non-bi-partisan.

//

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MsJ  Jan 16, 2018 • 7:12:00am
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FormerDirtDart  Jan 16, 2018 • 7:12:32am

re: #122 Patricia Kayden

Daniel Dale is a treasure.

Stumbling upon him during the 2016 election cycle is pretty much one of the few positive results

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 16, 2018 • 7:13:27am

re: #27 calochortus

I just find it hard to believe people want to be that unkind.

Anne Coulter and other Nazis still think its not cruel enough.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 16, 2018 • 7:14:31am

re: #85 Targetpractice

*clears throat* Thanks for the spoilers.

Sorry. I forgot the spoiler tags. But there’s more to the episode than that, so I didn’t completely ruin it. (I hope)

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 16, 2018 • 7:15:08am

re: #73 goddamnedfrank

Too many Democrats have no backbone. Trump is a racist and proudly so. Call him out.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 16, 2018 • 7:15:17am

re: #35 HappyWarrior

Yeah I’m sure it would have gone over just fine if Obama described Republican voters as living in shitholes.

Remember how upset they got about the “bitter clingers” sound bite?

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 16, 2018 • 7:16:22am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2018 • 7:16:35am

re: #130 Big Beautiful Door

Remember how upset they got about the “bitter clingers” sound bite?

Yep which was very tame. And they proved him right too.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2018 • 7:17:13am

re: #123 FormerDirtDart

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Sessions Math.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 16, 2018 • 7:20:07am

re: #104 FormerDirtDart

Can’t help but think any other time in history people would be screaming at the top of their lungs to be wary of this bubble

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No, they’ve been screaming for weeks that the Bitcoin bubble is about to pop — and it did take a big dive today — and basically ignoring the stock markets. Few seem bothered by rising interest rates and the weak dollar, though.

Something is gonna give.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 16, 2018 • 7:20:12am
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FormerDirtDart  Jan 16, 2018 • 7:21:50am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2018 • 7:22:55am

re: #135 FormerDirtDart

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They don’t care about domestic terrorism because they know its perps are often like minded to them and even supporters of their administration.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 16, 2018 • 7:24:44am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2018 • 7:26:03am

re: #138 FormerDirtDart

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I love women, not many people know that I used to be one, no one understands women like I do!

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ObserverArt  Jan 16, 2018 • 7:26:32am

If what you’ve heard about the sexual abuse and misconduct of Doctor Larry Nassar toward the girls of U.S. Gymnastics upset you, this huge expose at ESPN about how it was all enabled will cause certain outrage.

It’s a really long and detailed article. It is sad and disgusting. There are a lot of people that need to be taken down in this. And I think Michigan State University needs to be punished because they seem to have turned a blind eye.

I think Nassar is in court today for his sentencing. Throw away the keys.

Nassar surrounded by adults who enabled his predatory behavior

Associated video for article…

Iframe

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2018 • 7:28:02am

re: #140 ObserverArt

If what you’ve heard about the sexual abuse and misconduct of Doctor Larry Nassar toward the girls of U.S. Gymnastics upset you, this huge expose at ESPN about how it was all enabled will cause certain outrage.

It’s a really long and detailed article. It is sad and disgusting. There are a lot of people that need to be taken down in this. And I think Michigan State University needs to be punished because they seem to have turned a blind eye.

I think Nassar is in court today for his sentencing. Throw away the keys.

Nassar surrounded by adults who enabled his predatory behavior

Associated video for article…

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Sandusky 2.0.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 16, 2018 • 7:28:08am

re: #135 FormerDirtDart

some breaking news this morning: international terrorisim largely involves people from other nations, per the Trump administration
— Justin Sink

Amazing. How come president Kenya Obama never put out such a MAGA report as this. Such truthiness.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 16, 2018 • 7:28:53am

re: #106 Shropshire Slasher

Inflation is my worry. I went through my portfolio and made sure I divested myself of all bond related stuff.

Not sure why. The Fed hasn’t been able to get inflation up to its target level of 2% for years.

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Lupin  Jan 16, 2018 • 7:30:21am

re: #84 Weaselone

Thank you!

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 16, 2018 • 7:30:29am

re: #142 Sir John Barron

Amazing. How come president Kenya Obama never put out such a MAGA report as this. Such truthiness.

//

Well, the report does cover a 15 year period, beginning at 11 Sep. 2001

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 16, 2018 • 7:30:37am
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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 16, 2018 • 7:33:51am

re: #136 FormerDirtDart

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Christie obviously has no illusions about running for President again, or he would’ve vetoed it.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2018 • 7:34:17am

re: #147 Big Beautiful Door

Christie obviously has no illusions about running for President again, or he would’ve vetoed it.

He’s done politically.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 16, 2018 • 7:35:19am

re: #148 HappyWarrior

He’s done politically.

In wingnut translates as: “Fox News gig imminent.”

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2018 • 7:36:15am

re: #149 Ace Rothstein

In wingnut translates as: “Fox News gig imminent.”

Yep. FNC is the retirement home for failed Republicans. See, Huckabee, Mike.

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ObserverArt  Jan 16, 2018 • 7:38:04am

After four days straight of having to clear snow from my sidewalks…and a good 10” of snow lying around with way too low temperatures I am ready to declare I am officially done with winter.

Local kids got a school day off because of 3” more snow on already messy and icy roads. Traffic was a mess this morning.

(Shakes fist at Mom Nature)

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 16, 2018 • 7:38:22am

re: #103 makeitstop

Do you notice the Fake News Mainstream Media never likes covering the great and record setting economic news, …

Even notice how the refrain coming from the halfwit in chief and the wingers is all about “records”? Of course you do, you’re intelligent.

There were constant “records” set during the Obama administration; during pretty much every administration ever. That’s actually not news. If there ar3nt re odds being set, the economy is doing poorly, as many here have noted and posted the graph, who gives a fuck about rah-rah.

The things that the orange disease is doing to our reputation and to our trade and to many people’s view of humanity is THE NEWS. it’s bad, that’s why it’s being reported.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 16, 2018 • 7:40:08am

Welp, I’m stuck at home today with the snow continuing to fall as the temperature has dropped to 12 degrees fahrenheit. Fortunately the teacher tribunal hearing I was scheduled for tomorrow has settled, so I have no reason to go into work!

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ObserverArt  Jan 16, 2018 • 7:40:11am

re: #150 HappyWarrior

Yep. FNC is the retirement home for failed Republicans. See, Huckabee, Mike.

Thye can even be a holding place for Republicans on the lam. See, Kasich, John before he ran for Governor of Ohio.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 16, 2018 • 7:40:45am

re: #103 makeitstop

Do you notice the Fake News Mainstream Media never likes covering the great and record setting economic news, but rather talks about anything negative or that can be turned into the negative. The Russian Collusion Hoax is dead, except as it pertains to the Dems. Public gets it!

— Donald J. Trump

You spent two years telling us that the government and media’s economic reports were fake news and that the stock market highs were a bubble.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 16, 2018 • 7:41:29am

re: #106 Shropshire Slasher

Inflation is my worry. I went through my portfolio and made sure I divested myself of all bond related stuff.

Was watching a market analysis guy over the weekend, and he noted that institutional investors, including foreign governments, are selling off their Treasuries for similar reasons. They’re anticipating the Fed trying to control inflation and making a mess of everything.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 16, 2018 • 7:42:14am

re: #147 Big Beautiful Door

Christie obviously has no illusions about running for President again, or he would’ve vetoed it.

RINO cuck

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2018 • 7:43:53am

re: #154 ObserverArt

Thye can even be a holding place for Republicans on the lam. See, Kasich, John before he ran for Governor of Ohio.

I forgot Kasich was on FNC but yep.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 7:45:39am

Executive Time:

he just live tweets Fox.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 16, 2018 • 7:45:40am

re: #143 Big Beautiful Door

Not sure why. The Fed hasn’t been able to get inflation up to its target level of 2% for years.

But isn’t the dollar declining courtesy of Trump maladministration? This is likely to eventually lead to higher interest rates to attract foreign investments. OTOH it’s not really clear which economy can take up the slack. The EU?

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MsJ  Jan 16, 2018 • 7:45:59am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2018 • 7:47:25am

re: #159 Backwoods_Sleuth

Executive Time:

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he just live tweets Fox.

Pretty much. And pretty damn SAD!

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2018 • 7:48:05am

re: #161 MsJ

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Must be nice.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 16, 2018 • 7:52:24am
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Patricia Kayden  Jan 16, 2018 • 7:52:48am

re: #135 FormerDirtDart

Is it normal for a government division to lie to the American people to promote propaganda? This is scary.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2018 • 7:54:00am

re: #164 FormerDirtDart

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Typical. I hate these assholes.

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MsJ  Jan 16, 2018 • 7:54:34am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2018 • 7:55:25am

From the definitions of “chain migration” I’ve seen, I know that many of my family fall in that category.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 16, 2018 • 7:55:34am

Thank you Mom and Dad for forever ruining potato pancakes by serving them with real imitation fake maple syrup.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 16, 2018 • 7:56:52am

re: #165 Patricia Kayden

Is it normal for a government division to lie to the American people to promote propaganda? This is scary.

Nothing new here. They lied to get us into VietNam and keep us there. But at least in the past, the President was not working on behalf of a foreign power.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 16, 2018 • 7:59:19am

re: #160 Hecuba’s daughter

But isn’t the dollar declining courtesy of Trump maladministration? This is likely to eventually lead to higher interest rates to attract foreign investments. OTOH it’s not really clear which economy can take up the slack. The EU?

The world economy is growing at a faster rate than the US economy, due largely to the fact that with Boomers retiring in huge numbers our workforce isn’t growing very fast. A lower dollar should help US exports and get our inflation rate closer to the 2%, so its not really a bad thing. The Fed wants to get interest rates a bit higher anyway so that they aren’t too close to zero when the next recession hits.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 16, 2018 • 8:00:40am

re: #165 Patricia Kayden

Is it normal for a government division to lie to the American people to promote propaganda? This is scary.

There is almost nothing normal about the Trump Administration.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 16, 2018 • 8:02:18am

re: #92 Weaselone

2. For its flaws, the Washington Post is still doing some great reporting. There’s no doubt that by the end of this, it’s probably going to eclipse the New York Times as the paper of record at least for political and investigative journalism.

It was the Washington Post that broke Watergate. It was the NY Times that continued to publish Judith Miller, the cheerleader for the Iraq war.

Hasn’t the Post outshone the Times for decades now when it comes to critical reporting about Republican administrations?

—minor edit

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 16, 2018 • 8:02:47am

Random, this was on over the weekend.

Burgess Meredith Grumpy Old Men Grumpier Old Men

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 16, 2018 • 8:05:10am

re: #171 Big Beautiful Door

The world economy is growing at a faster rate than the US economy, due largely to the fact that with Boomers retiring in huge numbers our workforce isn’t growing very fast. A lower dollar should help US exports and get our inflation rate closer to the 2%, so its not really a bad thing. The Fed wants to get interest rates a bit higher anyway so that they aren’t too close to zero when the next recession hits.

Doesn’t the US have a higher population growth rate than Europe? Or is that no longer true?

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ObserverArt  Jan 16, 2018 • 8:11:26am

re: #165 Patricia Kayden

Is it normal for a government division to lie to the American people to promote propaganda? This is scary.

We don’t have a normal government.

Does that answer the question?

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 16, 2018 • 8:11:36am

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 16, 2018 • 8:12:39am

re: #175 Hecuba’s daughter

Doesn’t the US have a higher population growth rate than Europe? Or is that no longer true?

I don’t know right now. Europe did have a huge influx of immigrants due to the Syrian Civil War, and US immigration has been pretty flat for the last decade. But the US recovery from the recession was a lot stronger than Europe’s, so maybe they are having some catch-up growth. The European Central Bank is still engaged in Quantatative Easing, which the Feds ended years ago, and they still aren’t raising interest rates yet.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 16, 2018 • 8:16:19am

re: #171 Big Beautiful Door

The world economy is growing at a faster rate than the US economy, due largely to the fact that with Boomers retiring in huge numbers our workforce isn’t growing very fast. A lower dollar should help US exports and get our inflation rate closer to the 2%, so its not really a bad thing. The Fed wants to get interest rates a bit higher anyway so that they aren’t too close to zero when the next recession hits.

On the other hand, doesn’t a weaker dollar make imported goods more expensive for the consumer?

I confess to being an ignoramus about econ.

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Belafon  Jan 16, 2018 • 8:19:20am

re: #179 wheat-dogg

On the other hand, doesn’t a weaker dollar make imported goods more expensive for the consumer?

I confess to being an ignoramus about econ.

Yes. It should make local produced goods relatively cheaper to purchase, meaning more local production, meaning more money for local workers, meaning more spending, meaning prices go up, etc. It’s got it’s own built-in regulation system when it’s working properly.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 16, 2018 • 8:19:25am
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FormerDirtDart  Jan 16, 2018 • 8:21:03am
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MsJ  Jan 16, 2018 • 8:21:07am

Texas, y’all!

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wheat-dogg  Jan 16, 2018 • 8:23:00am

re: #180 Belafon

Yes. It should make local produced goods relatively cheaper to purchase, meaning more local production, meaning more money for local workers, meaning more spending, meaning prices go up, etc. It’s got it’s own built-in regulation system when it’s working properly.

That’s assuming there is the capability to produce said goods locally. As I understand it, many manufacturers closed domestic factories and moved production offshore. So, it’s not like they can just throw a switch and resume domestic production again.

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ObserverArt  Jan 16, 2018 • 8:25:44am

re: #181 FormerDirtDart

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Once convicted aren’t you more or less without privacy? Maybe an NDA should be cancelled once there is a conviction.

Yes, I am looking at you too Donald J. Trump.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 16, 2018 • 8:26:00am

re: #179 wheat-dogg

On the other hand, doesn’t a weaker dollar make imported goods more expensive for the consumer?

I confess to being an ignoramus about econ.

It could, yes, but inflation hasn’t been a real problem for decades. I think that the world has gotten so much more productive since the seventies that its difficult for inflation to take hold and the real threat to the world economy is deflationary pressure. When you think about the world of 40 years ago, a huge percentage of the world’s population, from central Germany across Eurasia to India and China, produced virtually nothing anyone wanted to buy. In the US economy AT&T had a telecom monopoly, and a lot of regulation of industries like airlines and energy were essentially price fixing, and unions had cola raises negotiated in their contracts. It was a different world economically.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2018 • 8:27:37am

re: #182 FormerDirtDart

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Yawn.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 16, 2018 • 8:28:06am

re: #181 FormerDirtDart

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USA Gymnastics would face a massive backlash if they try to enforce this fine after she testifies, and rightly so.

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Skip Intro  Jan 16, 2018 • 8:28:07am

Haiti protesters in FL

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 16, 2018 • 8:28:39am

He also shot at a LEO helicopter
Economic anxiety or domestic terrorist?

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wheat-dogg  Jan 16, 2018 • 8:29:11am

re: #186 Big Beautiful Door

It could, yes, but inflation hasn’t been a real problem for decades. I think that the world has gotten so much more productive since the seventies that its difficult for inflation to take hold and the real threat to the world economy is deflationary pressure. When you think about the world of 40 years ago, a huge percentage of the world’s population, from central Germany across Eurasia to India and China, produced virtually nothing anyone wanted to buy. In the US economy AT&T had a telecom monopoly, and a lot of regulation of industries like airlines and energy were essentially price fixing, and unions had cola raises negotiated in their contracts. It was a different world economically.

I guess I should really take time to learn all this stuff. I avoided econ during college because it held no interest for me. Now, though, I realize that I really should learn something about it.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 16, 2018 • 8:29:42am

re: #182 FormerDirtDart

Fox News launching a special called “scandalous” — about Bill Clinton’s scandals two decades ago. pic.twitter.com
— Jake Sherman (@JakeSherman) January 16, 2018

Fox “news” making their audience of one feel good.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 16, 2018 • 8:30:09am

re: #192 Dr. Matt

Do they know their audience, or do they know their audience?

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MsJ  Jan 16, 2018 • 8:31:33am

MAGA

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makeitstop  Jan 16, 2018 • 8:31:43am

Good point!

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Skip Intro  Jan 16, 2018 • 8:31:47am

re: #190 FormerDirtDart

He’s white so either lone wolf or mentally disturbed. Or both.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 16, 2018 • 8:33:01am

Seven trading days. That’s how long it took the Dow to rocket from 25,000 to 26,000.
Growth that fast can’t be good, I am sorry. When it does crash, 24 hours later we will all be experts on how it happened.

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Skip Intro  Jan 16, 2018 • 8:34:34am

re: #197 Shropshire Slasher

Seven trading days. That’s how long it took the Dow to rocket from 25,000 to 26,000.
Growth that fast can’t be good, I am sorry. When it does crash, 24 hours later we will all be experts on how it happened.

This looks just like the market before the big crash in 2000.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 16, 2018 • 8:34:52am

re: #191 wheat-dogg

I think one reason governments and central banks are so worried about Bitcoin and its many offspring is these decentralized and largely unregulated currencies are pulling money away from traditional investments. The market cap peaked around $800B a week ago. That’s a lot of money — still a drop in the bucket compared to equities, but gaining steam over the long run.

Here in China, the central bank has nearly shut off consumer access to Bitcoin, etc., supposedly to protect consumers but mostly to prevent capital flight. The Chinese economy is teetering right now, waiting for the real estate bubble to pop, and the government is understandably nervous.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 16, 2018 • 8:36:00am

re: #190 FormerDirtDart

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He also shot at a LEO helicopter
Economic anxiety or domestic terrorist?

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He’s a “very fine” person.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 16, 2018 • 8:36:17am

re: #182 FormerDirtDart

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 16, 2018 • 8:36:58am

re: #198 Skip Intro

This looks just like the market before the big crash in 2000.

Pump and dump.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 16, 2018 • 8:37:14am

re: #190 FormerDirtDart

Lone wolf.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 16, 2018 • 8:38:02am
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Belafon  Jan 16, 2018 • 8:38:55am

re: #197 Shropshire Slasher

Seven trading days. That’s how long it took the Dow to rocket from 25,000 to 26,000.
Growth that fast can’t be good, I am sorry. When it does crash, 24 hours later we will all be experts on how it happened.

As I stated above, this is investors (the rich) taking advantage of getting dividends from the tax cuts to businesses. Companies aren’t going to give them to employees, because not only are they not required to, but an old SCOTUS ruling says they are required to return it to investors.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 16, 2018 • 8:38:58am

re: #197 Shropshire Slasher

Seven trading days. That’s how long it took the Dow to rocket from 25,000 to 26,000.
Growth that fast can’t be good, I am sorry. When it does crash, 24 hours later we will all be experts on how it happened.

Bitcoin prices soared to almost $20,000 last month, and have been steadily declining since. There was a lot of enthusiasm fueling the run, with the usual BS predictions about $50K, $100K, $1M Bitcoin prices ahead, and then the smart people took some profits and deflated the balloon.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 16, 2018 • 8:41:13am

re: #206 wheat-dogg

The DOW is a much bigger balloon than Bitcoin…and much more complex to deflate.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 8:41:19am

re: #190 FormerDirtDart

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He also shot at a LEO helicopter
Economic anxiety or domestic terrorist?

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looks like he has a beard…sooooo….

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 16, 2018 • 8:42:06am

re: #198 Skip Intro

This looks just like the market before the big crash in 2000.

It’s all how you sell it in newspeak. It isn’t a “crash” it is a “correction”.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 16, 2018 • 8:42:30am

re: #204 FormerDirtDart

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She got one!

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 16, 2018 • 8:42:51am

re: #205 Belafon

As I stated above, this is investors (the rich) taking advantage of getting dividends from the tax cuts to businesses. Companies aren’t going to give them to employees, because not only are they not required to, but an old SCOTUS ruling says they are required to return it to investors.

A lot of corps are also buying back large blocks of stock, which I assume would likely trigger high frequency trading algorithms.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 16, 2018 • 8:43:43am

re: #207 Eclectic Cyborg

The DOW is a much bigger balloon than Bitcoin…and much more complex to deflate.

I understand that, and institutional investors and the markets themselves tend to temper rapid rises and falls. But eventually, there will be a sell-off in the equities markets, because investors will take profits.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 16, 2018 • 8:44:50am

re: #197 Shropshire Slasher

Seven trading days. That’s how long it took the Dow to rocket from 25,000 to 26,000.
Growth that fast can’t be good, I am sorry. When it does crash, 24 hours later we will all be experts on how it happened.

This is what happens when you undertax the rich - all the accumulated money goes looking for a safe, high yield investment, and that’s how you get bubbles. Excess money flows into any market that looks good, and then that market rises because of the money flowing in, which makes more investors say, “I gotta get in on that!”

Next thing you know, 2 tulip bulbs will by you a mansion on Amsterdam’s main drag, and somebody says, “That’s nuts!”, and everyone realizes he’s right.

*poof!*

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 16, 2018 • 8:45:05am

I been following this today here.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 16, 2018 • 8:46:21am

re: #212 wheat-dogg

I understand that, and institutional investors and the markets themselves tend to temper rapid rises and falls. But eventually, there will be a sell-off in the equities markets, because investors will take profits.

A correction could happen anytime, but I’m not really expecting a crash anytime soon. We really are in a goldilocks moment in the world with sold growth driving earnings, rather than the rampant, unsupported speculation that led to the 2008 and 2000 crashes, IMO.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 16, 2018 • 8:46:25am

re: #213 Blind Frog Belly White

Upding for tulip reference. Beanie Babies could also be used.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 16, 2018 • 8:46:57am

re: #214 Dr Lizardo

Also, today a Czech parliamentary committee voted to lift his immunity from prosecution - the full House of Deputies is expected to vote on the issue this Friday. If that passes, then a state prosecutor will officially file charges shortly thereafter.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 16, 2018 • 8:47:08am

re: #208 Backwoods_Sleuth

looks like he has a beard…sooooo….

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Beards are bad if worn by POC (terrorists) or snowflake SJW hipsters from urban areas. When worn by 2A defenders, militiamen, anti-government protestors it’s a sign of virility

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 16, 2018 • 8:48:21am
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wheat-dogg  Jan 16, 2018 • 8:49:36am

re: #219 FormerDirtDart

Tick tock, tick tock.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 16, 2018 • 8:49:45am

re: #217 Dr Lizardo

Also, today a Czech parliamentary committee voted to lift his immunity from prosecution - the full House of Deputies is expected to vote on the issue this Friday. If that passes, then a state prosecutor will officially file charges shortly thereafter.

What would happen here if we had a Congress which does its job.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 16, 2018 • 8:51:57am

re: #221 Big Beautiful Door

What would happen here if we had a Congress Republican party which does its job.

Fixed.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 8:53:54am
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wheat-dogg  Jan 16, 2018 • 8:54:38am

Time for bed here. See you all later.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 8:56:07am
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carey94tt  Jan 16, 2018 • 8:59:00am

re: #167 MsJ

Too bad Norway has a pitbull ban. Striking them off the list.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 16, 2018 • 8:59:03am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 16, 2018 • 8:59:08am

re: #223 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump approval ratings with Black Americans has doubled.

“Twice nothing is still nothing.” - Cyrano Jones, “The Trouble With Tribbles”

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 16, 2018 • 9:01:12am

You can see that Republicans fully live in an inverted reality in the replies to this Quore question:
quora.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 9:01:16am
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FormerDirtDart  Jan 16, 2018 • 9:02:05am
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Ace-o-aces  Jan 16, 2018 • 9:02:24am

Repeating from earlier post: But this time with reply from evil Grover himself:

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 16, 2018 • 9:02:37am

re: #230 Backwoods_Sleuth

200 grand doesn’t buy what it used to.

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DodgerFan1988  Jan 16, 2018 • 9:02:50am
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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 16, 2018 • 9:02:52am

re: #230 Backwoods_Sleuth

You mean they aren’t above the law?!

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ObserverArt  Jan 16, 2018 • 9:03:08am

re: #223 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That is the Trump way. Tout any little positive even if it is nothing when compared to the negative surrounding it. Just ignore all the negatives.

It’s old salesman/con artist methods he learned a long time ago and he is never going to change them.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 16, 2018 • 9:04:05am

re: #236 ObserverArt

It’s also the way Fox News kisses his ass every morning.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 16, 2018 • 9:04:24am

re: #230 Backwoods_Sleuth

Come for the golf, leave with the botulism!

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 16, 2018 • 9:04:59am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 9:06:04am
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FormerDirtDart  Jan 16, 2018 • 9:06:55am
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Citizen K  Jan 16, 2018 • 9:08:13am

re: #177 FormerDirtDart

Loopholes, huh?

Is that why they’re going after low-hanging fruit and deporting folks whose only actual crime seems to be ‘existing while brown’? What happened to those ‘bad hombres’ they promised to go after?

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Belafon  Jan 16, 2018 • 9:08:24am

re: #239 Ace-o-aces

Won’t Bannon be the first to testify after Fire and Fury and the revelation that Mueller has all of the transition team emails?

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Skip Intro  Jan 16, 2018 • 9:09:07am

re: #240 Backwoods_Sleuth

That’s why Trump only gets his meals from McDonalds.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 16, 2018 • 9:09:30am

re: #207 Eclectic Cyborg

The DOW is a much bigger balloon than Bitcoin…and much more complex to deflate.

At least the stock market has an underlying positive net worth. A correction might lead to a 20%-25% drop, but it’s hard to judge what might happen. Few are capable of predicting the next major event (for good or ill) that will convulse the market.

I’m old enough to recall when everyone thought Japan would be running everything when the Japanese market hit almost 39,000 in late 1989. Now, for the first time in a couple decades it’s reached almost 24,000, still down almost 40% from its top.

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 16, 2018 • 9:10:28am

re: #243 Belafon

Won’t Bannon be the first to testify after Fire and Fury and the revelation that Mueller has all of the transition team emails?

Not sure if he’s the first, but he’s probably got the most to say.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 9:13:22am
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Ace-o-aces  Jan 16, 2018 • 9:13:29am

It makes me feel less alone.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 16, 2018 • 9:13:46am

re: #232 Ace-o-aces

Repeating from earlier post: But this time with reply from evil Grover himself:

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Grover is trying to promote the notion that Obama was as ill-informed as Trump — that a single mental (or verbal) lapse was equivalent to the daily ignorance spewed by our current President.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 9:15:38am
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ObserverArt  Jan 16, 2018 • 9:16:20am

Sure would be something if the damn Republican politicians and backers used all their efforts and creative time constructing lies and building support for those lies to instead do actual government work.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 9:17:53am

sigh

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 16, 2018 • 9:20:53am

re: #252 Backwoods_Sleuth

sigh

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The ACA worked well under the prior Democratic governor. Unfortunately, the state decided to replace him with a Republican and it’s been all downhill since then. Putting the modern Republican party in charge of anything poisons the state — and now the country.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 9:21:48am
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Belafon  Jan 16, 2018 • 9:24:32am

re: #254 Backwoods_Sleuth

“If the founding fathers were racists, then why did they start a country?” isn’t a very good argument either.

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I cannot.  Jan 16, 2018 • 9:27:04am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 9:30:51am

oh…

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makeitstop  Jan 16, 2018 • 9:32:32am
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William Lewis  Jan 16, 2018 • 9:32:38am

Yet Another Christianity vs Trump page from me. This time I am pointing to a good article in Sojourners magazine wondering if it isn’t time for a “Bonhoeffer Moment” in America.

If you’re inclined, the page can be found hereIs This a Bonhoeffer Moment?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 9:33:01am

well, glad THAT’S finally settled…//////////

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2018 • 9:34:10am

...

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wrenchwench  Jan 16, 2018 • 9:36:54am

re: #101 Shropshire Slasher

ummm, your kitty looks a little, feral.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 9:38:22am

meanwhile at the White House:

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makeitstop  Jan 16, 2018 • 9:41:29am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 9:42:39am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2018 • 9:44:09am

re: #265 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Good to see this.

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wrenchwench  Jan 16, 2018 • 9:44:10am

‘Dreamer’ of a different definition.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 9:44:24am
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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 16, 2018 • 9:47:19am

re: #260 Backwoods_Sleuth

well, glad THAT’S finally settled…//////////

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So she decided that committing perjury may not have been her best option. Cotton and Perdue were not under oath — so they feel free to lie. It’s only because there was at least one Republican willing to speak the truth (Lindsey) that the real narrative was preserved. Every conversation with this President must be recorded; and even then he lies with impunity (so far).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 9:48:09am
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jan 16, 2018 • 9:49:42am

re: #213 Blind Frog Belly White

They are selling BitCoin IRAs now…

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 16, 2018 • 9:49:45am

re: #268 Backwoods_Sleuth
Damn you!@ Now I want a puppy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 9:51:42am

really, Lindsey? You have no idea what happened?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 9:53:00am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2018 • 9:53:51am

re: #273 Backwoods_Sleuth

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really, Lindsey? You have no idea what happened?

Yeah it’s just his staff and not the guy who attacked a judge’s ethnicity. Graham is useless.

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gocart mozart  Jan 16, 2018 • 9:55:41am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 9:56:38am
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Belafon  Jan 16, 2018 • 9:56:42am

re: #276 gocart mozart

Since I can’t watch, what is he doing exactly?

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jan 16, 2018 • 9:56:45am

Stephen Miller As The Turd In The Punchbowl

tune in for the exciting conclusion to the biggest shitshow on international television

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wrenchwench  Jan 16, 2018 • 9:57:07am
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A Mom Anon  Jan 16, 2018 • 9:57:26am

re: #185 ObserverArt

Maybe an NDA shouldn’t be allowed at all when there are crimes being committed. I can see it in cases where you work for a company and have access to product/ingredients/formulas and so on that belong to the company, but beyond that, allowing that level of secrecy acts as a permission slip to be abusive.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 9:57:51am

re: #278 Belafon

Since I can’t watch, what is he doing exactly?

He is taking off a pair of glasses that he is NOT WEARING and placing them carefully on the table.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 16, 2018 • 9:59:50am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 9:59:53am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:00:18am

re: #267 wrenchwench

Back in the USA for the first time in 5 years. Nothing has changed since I’ve been gone, right?

— Stephen Zozaya

I was back in Phoneix about a year ago, it has not changed, just sprawled. If anything, the rest of the nation has caught up (or down) with it…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:01:52am

re: #281 A Mom Anon

Maybe an NDA shouldn’t be allowed at all when there are crimes being committed. I can see it in cases where you work for a company and have access to product/ingredients/formulas and so on that belong to the company, but beyond that, allowing that level of secrecy acts as a permission slip to be abusive.

I was just talking to a woman who installs anti-money money laundering software for a major financial institution saying that she had a similar discussion with her boss on that topic and its practical relevance to what they do.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:02:08am

re: #265 Backwoods_Sleuth

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video:

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:02:11am

re: #284 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Kelly sucks but Trump was a bigoted asshole long before Kelly. Don’t know what Graham is trying to do here but it makes him look uninformed.

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dangerman  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:03:57am

re: #281 A Mom Anon

Maybe an NDA shouldn’t be allowed at all when there are crimes being committed. I can see it in cases where you work for a company and have access to product/ingredients/formulas and so on that belong to the company, but beyond that, allowing that level of secrecy acts as a permission slip to be abusive.

it also furthers the power asymmetry that likely caused the situation to start with

if you have money and the other party is in need, you can buy your way out of consequences

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austin_blue  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:05:25am

re: #151 ObserverArt

After four days straight of having to clear snow from my sidewalks…and a good 10” of snow lying around with way too low temperatures I am ready to declare I am officially done with winter.

Local kids got a school day off because of 3” more snow on already messy and icy roads. Traffic was a mess this morning.

(Shakes fist at Mom Nature)

We hit 71º yesterday, so there was enough residual heat to keep surface roads clear of ice but elevated roads and overpasses are another story. This city is pretty much shut down. Surface roads are now on the ragged edge of icing over. I’m not going anywhere the rest of the day.

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danarchy  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:06:45am

OT -

Just a bit of a rant, I was looking for some new books to buy and in many cases the kindle version was more expensive than the paperback version. There are next to no production or shipping costs associated with an ebook. With a paperback you have material costs, shipping and distribution costs, storage costs, you’d think they would want people to order the electronic version. Think I will order the paperbacks out of spite.

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MsJ  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:07:19am

re: #278 Belafon

Since I can’t watch, what is he doing exactly?

It looks like he is taking glasses off (that he is not wearing). The motion of putting your hand up to your temple and grasping and removing something that doesn’t exist.

In his defense, I have moved my glasses up my nose when they weren’t there. (sigh)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:08:02am
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Belafon  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:09:32am

re: #291 danarchy

OT -

Just a bit of a rant, I was looking for some new books to buy and in many cases the kindle version was more expensive than the paperback version. There are next to no production or shipping costs associated with an ebook. With a paperback you have material costs, shipping and distribution costs, storage costs, you’d think they would want people to order the electronic version. Think I will order the paperbacks out of spite.

Amazon doesn’t have control of the cost of the Kindle version of all of its books. My son, who published his own book of poetry, was able to set whatever price he wanted. I think some of the hardcover book sellers are doing that on purpose to discourage people from buying Kindle versions.

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Jay C  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:10:17am

re: #288 HappyWarrior

Kelly sucks but Trump was a bigoted asshole long before Kelly. Don’t know what Graham is trying to do here but it makes him look uninformed.

What it looks, mainly, like what Sen. Graham is doing is:
1. Trying to make himself look like a “good guy” by “standing up” for DREAMers.
(1a. probably at the behest of some donor or other in SC with a vested interest in not fiddling too badly with immigration policy.)
2. Blaming “The White House” so as to cast blame on Trump without actually “blaming Trump” - the contemporary version of the old Russian dodge of “If the Tsar only knew!!

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MsJ  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:10:34am

re: #288 HappyWarrior

Kelly sucks but Trump was a bigoted asshole long before Kelly. Don’t know what Graham is trying to do here but it makes him look uninformed.

I think it’s safe to say that both of them are bigoted assholes.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:11:27am

and this:

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wrenchwench  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:11:42am

re: #285 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I was back in Phoneix about a year ago, it has not changed, just sprawled. If anything, the rest of the nation has caught up (or down) with it…

When I saw Phoenix the first time, in 1986, I thought, ‘Los Angeles in the making.’ Opinion was confirmed when I drove through in 2012. But Los Angeles was so far ahead in 1995 (the last time I was there) Phoenix will never catch them.

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MsJ  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:12:16am

re: #294 Belafon

Amazon doesn’t have control of the cost of the Kindle version of all of its books. My son, who published his own book of poetry, was able to set whatever price he wanted. I think some of the hardcover book sellers are doing that on purpose to discourage people from buying Kindle versions.

The publishers set the price. When Kindle first came out, the books were all sold at far less than a hardcover, but the publishers were like NOPE. Many of the books listed for Kindle say “Price set by publisher”

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makeitstop  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:12:25am

re: #288 HappyWarrior

Kelly sucks but Trump was a bigoted asshole long before Kelly. Don’t know what Graham is trying to do here but it makes him look uninformed.

Hoarse has a theory.

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gocart mozart  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:13:32am
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MsJ  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:14:18am

re: #300 makeitstop

Hoarse has a theory.

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danarchy  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:16:22am

re: #299 MsJ

The publishers set the price. When Kindle first came out, the books were all sold at far less than a hardcover, but the publishers were like NOPE. Many of the books listed for Kindle say “Price set by publisher”

I can understand that, and I can see delaying the kindle release of a book until the hardcover has had some time to sell, but once the paperback comes out I would think the publishers themselves would prefer to sell an electronic version as it reduces their costs. Unless Amazon is taking such a big cut that it actually costs them more than printing and distributing the paperback.

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scottslemmons  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:16:35am

re: #291 danarchy

OT -

Just a bit of a rant, I was looking for some new books to buy and in many cases the kindle version was more expensive than the paperback version. There are next to no production or shipping costs associated with an ebook. With a paperback you have material costs, shipping and distribution costs, storage costs, you’d think they would want people to order the electronic version. Think I will order the paperbacks out of spite.

I have that problem all the time. I subscribe to the GoodReads Deals emails, which send you a daily email of discounted Kindle books based on your preference of genres (BTW, Bradbury’s “The Martian Chronicles,” Ellison’s “Deathbird Stories,” and “Gaiman’s “Trigger Warning” are all on sale for $3 or less). But there are a lot of books I’d really like to read which are priced the same for both print and ebooks. I usually tend to put them on my wishlist so I’ll maybe be able to keep track of any price drops. There are a few books (mainly anything from Becky Chambers’ “Wayfarer” series) that I’ll just shell out the money for as soon as they come out, regardless of price.

Book addiction sure is a chore. :/

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MsJ  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:17:06am

Ben Bailey from Cash Cab followed me. I wonder why. Kinda cool, though.

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MsJ  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:18:29am

re: #303 danarchy

I can understand that, and I can see delaying the kindle release of a book until the hardcover has had some time to sell, but once the paperback comes out I would think the publishers themselves would prefer to sell an electronic version as it reduces their costs. Unless Amazon is taking such a big cut that it actually costs them more than printing and distributing the paperback.

Often times, Kindle prices are higher than paperbacks.

It’s all about profits. They know physical books are dying. I can’t read physical books (and I have like 6000 that I cannot part with) because it is hard on my fucked-up hands.

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austin_blue  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:18:54am

re: #183 MsJ

Texas, y’all!

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Be damned if that doesn’t look like my local HEB at S. Congress & Oltorf.

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makeitstop  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:19:34am

Interesting thread from Mariotti on the Bannon subpoena.

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Teukka  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:19:51am

So this Swedish flick Den Blomstertid Nu Kommer/The Unthinkable has its premiere around the Midsummer holiday here in Sweden…

DEN BLOMSTERTID NU KOMMER - TEASER

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MsJ  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:20:34am

re: #304 scottslemmons

Do you get BookBub emails? bookbub.com

They send daily emails for free and cheap books. I got a Nevada Barr book for $1.99 yesterday. I have gotten some really good freebies. And if you start reading a freebie and it’s shit, delete it and no harm no foul no cost!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:21:37am
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Dr Lizardo  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:22:16am

re: #309 Teukka

That looks interesting.

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scottslemmons  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:22:29am

re: #310 MsJ

Do you get BookBub emails? bookbub.com

They send daily emails for free and cheap books. I got a Nevada Barr book for $1.99 yesterday. I have gotten some really good freebies. And if you start reading a freebie and it’s shit, delete it and no harm no foul no cost!

Never heard of ‘em before, but I’m reading their site right now. :)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:23:09am

re: #310 MsJ

Do you get BookBub emails? bookbub.com

They send daily emails for free and cheap books. I got a Nevada Barr book for $1.99 yesterday. I have gotten some really good freebies. And if you start reading a freebie and it’s shit, delete it and no harm no foul no cost!

I love BookBub. Along with my usual reading enjoyment genres, I’ve gotten some really good cookbooks.

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:23:32am
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Belafon  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:26:14am

re: #303 danarchy

I can understand that, and I can see delaying the kindle release of a book until the hardcover has had some time to sell, but once the paperback comes out I would think the publishers themselves would prefer to sell an electronic version as it reduces their costs. Unless Amazon is taking such a big cut that it actually costs them more than printing and distributing the paperback.

I went and dug a bit, and here’s the answer I found: Amazon is allowed to discount a physical copy as much as it wants. It can’t discount ebooks, and those prices are set by the publisher.

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Jay C  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:28:04am

re: #303 danarchy

re: #291 danarchy

OT -

Just a bit of a rant, I was looking for some new books to buy and in many cases the kindle version was more expensive than the paperback version. There are next to no production or shipping costs associated with an ebook. With a paperback you have material costs, shipping and distribution costs, storage costs, you’d think they would want people to order the electronic version. Think I will order the paperbacks out of spite.

I have that problem all the time. I subscribe to the GoodReads Deals emails, which send you a daily email of discounted Kindle books based on your preference of genres (BTW, Bradbury’s “The Martian Chronicles,” Ellison’s “Deathbird Stories,” and “Gaiman’s “Trigger Warning” are all on sale for $3 or less). But there are a lot of books I’d really like to read which are priced the same for both print and ebooks. I usually tend to put them on my wishlist so I’ll maybe be able to keep track of any price drops. There are a few books (mainly anything from Becky Chambers’ “Wayfarer” series) that I’ll just shell out the money for as soon as they come out, regardless of price.

Book addiction sure is a chore. :/

Bookbub is also a handy resource for cheap(er) e-books: it’s a minor pain, as they send you a daily list of about half-a-dozen titles on sale. You might have to slog though a lot of stuff you don;t want: but occasionally, the 99-cent or $1.99 bargain makes it worth it.

EDIT: curse of slow fingers…!!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:28:22am
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Teukka  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:28:53am

re: #312 Dr Lizardo

That looks interesting.

Interesting backstory is that it was crowdfunded at kickstarter :)

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Dr. Matt  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:30:24am

re: #301 gocart mozart

New PPP poll released on @maddow right now —-
TRUMP FAV/UNFAV with African American voters is:
Fav: 0%
UnFav: 97%
Undecided 3%

— Jesse Ferguson (@JesseFFerguson) August 30, 2016

Trump to Black Voters: “What Do You Have to Lose?” Looks like the few that voted for him figured it out.

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plf1953  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:30:32am

re: #284

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MsJ  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:34:08am

re: #314 Backwoods_Sleuth

I love BookBub. Along with my usual reading enjoyment genres, I’ve gotten some really good cookbooks.

Me, too. I love the cookbooks.

There are others, too… BookShout and eBookStage. I get emails from all of them.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:37:29am

re: #321 plf1953

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:38:34am

LOL

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Belafon  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:39:11am

Kindle still has all of the older books, say Pride and Prejudice or Frankenstein for free.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:39:32am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:40:31am

Fucking Greenwald… There was a time aver a decade ago when I thought he was a serious person. I’d tell him this myself, but he has me blocked.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:41:32am
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Belafon  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:42:45am

Publishers have found a kink in the ebook armor: Once a publisher sells a physical book to a seller, it no longer owns the book. But it doesn’t “sell” an ebook to Amazon or other companies.

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makeitstop  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:43:13am

re: #325 Belafon

Kindle still has all of the older books, say Pride and Prejudice or Frankenstein for free.

I use the Overdrive app in conjunction with my library card and can check out books from anywhere. Pretty cool.

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plf1953  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:44:00am

re: #323 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:44:32am

re: #330 makeitstop

I use the Overdrive app in conjunction with my library card and can check out books from anywhere. Pretty cool.

Camper Van Beethoven - Interstellar Overdrive

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:44:46am

re: #331 plf1953

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MsJ  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:45:31am

re: #327 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Fucking Greenwald… There was a time aver a decade ago when I thought he was a serious person. I’d tell him this myself, but he has me blocked.

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He blocked me too. He can dish it but can’t take it. It’s not part of his disinformation campaign to be called out.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:46:05am

re: #330 makeitstop

I use the Overdrive app in conjunction with my library card and can check out books from anywhere. Pretty cool.

Overdrive with my local library is great, too. I use it a lot. Beats the heck out of driving ~40 miles roundtrip to the physical library building. And no worries about returning overdue books!

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MsJ  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:46:49am

re: #330 makeitstop

I use the Overdrive app in conjunction with my library card and can check out books from anywhere. Pretty cool.

Overdrive is the worst app I have. It freezes, rarely works, might let me get in and then stop.

I wanted so much to like it but it sucks donkey balls.

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plf1953  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:48:22am

re: #323 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Belafon  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:48:28am

re: #327 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Fucking Greenwald… There was a time aver a decade ago when I thought he was a serious person. I’d tell him this myself, but he has me blocked.

Any actual idea what he’s talking about since I won’t click on the link?

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gocart mozart  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:48:57am
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austin_blue  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:49:14am

re: #325 Belafon

Kindle still has all of the older books, say Pride and Prejudice or Frankenstein for free.

Public domain.

I still prefer my paper books, though.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:50:06am

A lot of women are defending Ansari and blaming the victim.
Also, what’s up with the fingers down the throat thing?

My impression is that he was drunk, got a taste of pussy, and went out of control, destroying his own reputation as a good guy, His best bet is to apologize, go into rehab, and never drink again. Alcohol is a very dangerous drug that causes a loss of control beyond what happens with even many illegal drugs.

Ashleigh Banfield Condemns Aziz Ansari Accuser: ‘What You Have Done Is Appalling’

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Jay C  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:50:06am

re: #326 Backwoods_Sleuth

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makeitstop  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:50:17am

re: #336 MsJ

Overdrive is the worst app I have. It freezes, rarely works, might let me get in and then stop.

I wanted so much to like it but it sucks donkey balls.

The only problem I’ve ever had with it is I couldn’t log in after I renewed my library card. The library told me to reset my password, and I had no problem after that.

The initial login process is kinda wonky, though. If you’re not paying attention you end up logging in multiple times. I’ve done that. :)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:50:20am

re: #337 plf1953

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:50:41am

re: #276 gocart mozart

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:50:43am

Some days a rather routine job has a great fun moment.

Bird photobombs weather report

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scottslemmons  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:50:53am

re: #310 MsJ

Do you get BookBub emails? bookbub.com

They send daily emails for free and cheap books. I got a Nevada Barr book for $1.99 yesterday. I have gotten some really good freebies. And if you start reading a freebie and it’s shit, delete it and no harm no foul no cost!

I’m also really fond of being able to pick specific authors I’m following — lower-tier authors, not just the bestsellers. I’ll be digging through my books this afternoon to fill that section out some more. :)

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wrenchwench  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:51:24am

re: #338 Belafon

Any actual idea what he’s talking about since I won’t click on the link?

Imma start the ‘me neither’ movement.

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makeitstop  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:51:41am

re: #335 Backwoods_Sleuth

Overdrive with my local library is great, too. I use it a lot. Beats the heck out of driving ~20 miles roundtrip to the physical library building. And no worries about returning overdue books!

I’m only about five miles from mine, but I get lazy about actually going. So Overdrive is good for lazy gits like me. :)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:52:07am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:52:17am

re: #338 Belafon

Any actual idea what he’s talking about since I won’t click on the link?

People opposing Chelsea Manning’s Senate run because they support the Democrat who’s seat she wants.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:53:50am

re: #351 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

People opposing Chelsea Manning’s Senate run because they support the Democrat who’s seat she wants.

also, according to GG, apparently being a trans woman is the only qualification Manning needs to run for US Senate.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:53:56am

re: #351 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

People opposing Chelsea Manning’s Senate run because they support the Democrat who’s seat she wants.

wonkette.com

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MsJ  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:54:08am

re: #341 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

A lot of women are defending Ansari and blaming the victim.
Also, what’s up with the fingers down the threat thing?

My impression is that he was drunk, got a taste of pussy, and went out of control, destroying his own reputation as a good guy, His best bet is to apologize, go into rehab, and never drink again. Alcohol is a very dangerous drug that causes a loss of control beyond what happens with even many illegal drugs.

Ashleigh Banfield Condemns Aziz Ansari Accuser: ‘What You Have Done Is Appalling’

My husband and I have been reading about this and if you read what the woman wrote initially, what Banfield said was spot on. I am not sure where the rest came from but the woman’s initial reporting or complaint had nothing about oral sex or anything like that and, more importantly, nothing where she said No. She said she gave some clues about No. Really?

I argued with my husband after reading what someone else wrote about oral sex and drinks and stuff (hubby always was on the Banfield side) and at this point I have no fucking idea what happened.

As a woman I want to back someone calling out bad deeds, but I want real bad deeds. Because this one is starting to smell of bullshit and that only hurts us.

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scottslemmons  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:54:25am

re: #306 MsJ

Often times, Kindle prices are higher than paperbacks.

It’s all about profits. They know physical books are dying. I can’t read physical books (and I have like 6000 that I cannot part with) because it is hard on my fucked-up hands.

Ehh, I’m not so sure that print books are dying. I’m often more worried about what happens to the books on my Kindle if Amazon ever goes out of business.

And my bigger concern is that so damn few people read books at all anymore. :/

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MsJ  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:54:59am

re: #343 makeitstop

The only problem I’ve ever had with it is I couldn’t log in after I renewed my library card. The library told me to reset my password, and I had no problem after that.

The initial login process is kinda wonky, though. If you’re not paying attention you end up logging in multiple times. I’ve done that. :)

I’ve had to log in multiple times in the past. I could live with that if it worked afterwords.

Really depressing because I would love to get some new library books instead of buying them.

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ObserverArt  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:55:01am

re: #288 HappyWarrior

Kelly sucks but Trump was a bigoted asshole long before Kelly. Don’t know what Graham is trying to do here but it makes him look uninformed.

Graham is doing what he has been doing for many a year.

The Political Dance.

Two steps to the right to appear conservative and please your base.

Two steps to the front to look like you have morals and a heart

Two steps to the left to appear reasonable to opponents

Twp steps back to be right where you started…in your safe space but having done nothing but keep your job.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:56:05am

re: #356 MsJ

I’ve had to log in multiple times in the past. I could live with that if it worked afterwords.

Really depressing because I would love to get some new library books instead of buying them.

maybe it’s your library card account. Mine works great, MrBWS’s library card account has never worked.

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Jay C  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:56:38am

re: #338 Belafon

Any actual idea what he’s talking about since I won’t click on the link?

Apparently, bitching about criticism* of Chelsea Manning after her announcement that she wants to rum in the Dem primary in Maryland for the Senate seat currently held by Ben Cardin.

*and by “criticism” - which Greenwald seems to translate into a vicious smear campaign - he seems to be referring to online posting opinion noting that Ms. Manning has no particular experience, skills or qualifications to be a Senator. All quite true, of course, but then Greenwald loves little better than dumping on straw “leftist” abuse…..

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MsJ  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:57:24am

re: #355 scottslemmons

Ehh, I’m not so sure that print books are dying. I’m often more worried about what happens to the books on my Kindle if Amazon ever goes out of business.

And my bigger concern is that so damn few people read books at all anymore. :/

I am old enough that I don’t worry about Amazon in my lifetime. It could but I don’t think it will.

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MsJ  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:58:14am

re: #358 Backwoods_Sleuth

maybe it’s your library card account. Mine works great, MrBWS’s library card account has never worked.

It’s not the account, it’s the app. It freezes on load. Maybe I will try to delete it and reinstall it (again).

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plf1953  Jan 16, 2018 • 10:58:15am

re: #344 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 16, 2018 • 11:00:08am

re: #354 MsJ

My husband and I have been reading about this and if you read what the woman wrote initially, what Banfield said was spot on. I am not sure where the rest came from but the woman’s initial reporting or complaint had nothing about oral sex or anything like that and, more importantly, nothing where she said No. She said she gave some clues about No. Really?

I argued with my husband after reading what someone else wrote about oral sex and drinks and stuff (hubby always was on the Banfield side) and at this point I have no fucking idea what happened.

As a woman I want to back someone calling out bad deeds, but I want real bad deeds. Because this one is starting to smell of bullshit and that only hurts us.

I don’t think it smells of bullshit. What reason would a fan have to fool around with him, then attack him? It seems like she didn’t want to go that far, and he was unable to see that, or didn’t want to, because he was drunk and wanted sex. The time for a predator/prey dating situation is long past, and he’s old enough that he should be able to control himself.

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jeffreyw  Jan 16, 2018 • 11:00:41am

re: #111 ObserverArt

Okay…that image needs an explanation.

Mrs J has been feeding stray cats, and put some old bedding in a dog box we keep under an overhanging eave in case they need shelter. This stray is surly but we think it will come around when offered friendship and comfort. We have named him Pogo.

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wrenchwench  Jan 16, 2018 • 11:02:21am

re: #358 Backwoods_Sleuth

maybe it’s your library card account. Mine works great, MrBWS’s library card account has never worked.

About 6 months ago, I walked to my local library, for the first time in a few years, apparently. My card had expired. I didn’t know they do that. They asked if all the information was current ( we updated it) and with a click, my same card worked again. I checked out a book.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 16, 2018 • 11:02:30am

re: #355 scottslemmons

Ehh, I’m not so sure that print books are dying. I’m often more worried about what happens to the books on my Kindle if Amazon ever goes out of business.

And my bigger concern is that so damn few people read books at all anymore. :/

They’d probably be unlocked, and if not, there are already programs to remove DRM.

I still buy some books, but I rarely read fiction anymore. There’s a whole Internet, a million TV shows and movies, and thousands of video games to compete for my time.

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gocart mozart  Jan 16, 2018 • 11:02:43am
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Weaselone  Jan 16, 2018 • 11:04:57am

re: #359 Jay C

There’s also the whole part where she provided classified information to a Russian front organization. Horrible judgement, untrustworthy with sensitive information and no political experience. That’s totally the person I would elect to be a Senator.

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Jay C  Jan 16, 2018 • 11:07:03am

re: #369 Weaselone

There’s also the whole part where she provided classified information to a Russian front organization. Horrible judgement, untrustworthy with sensitive information and no political experience. That’s totally the person I would elect to be a Senator.

Quite agree: but as usual, Wonkette puts it better: and gets right to the point:

But how perfect that a guy who can’t even vote here is howling with rage that the DSC won’t back a completely unelectable candidate against a guy who won here 11 times! Go on, Glenn, why don’t you mansplain us how to make a crabcake now! Do you use breadcrumbs or your own frothy bile as a binder?
Read more at wonkette.com

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 16, 2018 • 11:09:30am

Is anyone else seeing the comment vote count in italics after a page refresh?

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 16, 2018 • 11:09:35am

Glenn Greenwald is a Putin pal. No sensible person thinks he adds anything useful to a discussion.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 11:09:52am

re: #365 jeffreyw

Mrs J has been feeding stray cats, and put some old bedding in a dog box we keep under an overhanging eave in case they need shelter. This stray is surly but we think it will come around when offered friendship and comfort. We have named him Pogo.

one of my all time fave front porch photos:

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austin_blue  Jan 16, 2018 • 11:10:37am

re: #371 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Is anyone else seeing the comment vote count in italics after a page refresh?

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Not here.

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wrenchwench  Jan 16, 2018 • 11:13:44am

re: #371 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Is anyone else seeing the comment vote count in italics after a page refresh?

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Yep. you broke it. Also, my nic is in italics about the comment posting form. Was it always like that?

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William Lewis  Jan 16, 2018 • 11:14:12am

Charles? Are you modifying the fonts and doing things with bold & italic? Or do I need new glasses even worse than I thought?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 16, 2018 • 11:15:24am

re: #318 Backwoods_Sleuth

BREAKING: The Chinese credit agency, Dagong Global Credit Rating Co, has downgraded the United States’ credit rating from A- to BBB+

The Agency cited “political deficiencies.”

Yes, this means Donald Trump…

He has busted our credit rating. To be expected

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 11:15:42am
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wrenchwench  Jan 16, 2018 • 11:15:52am

re: #376 William Lewis

Charles? Are you modifying the fonts and doing things with bold & italic? Or do I need new glasses even worse than I thought?

The upding I made on your comment is not Italic.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 16, 2018 • 11:16:42am

re: #375 wrenchwench

Yep. you broke it. Also, my nic is in italics about the comment posting form. Was it always like that?

Mine too. I didn’t notice that.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 16, 2018 • 11:16:44am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 16, 2018 • 11:17:31am

re: #379 wrenchwench

The upding I made on your comment is not Italic.

New comments are OK, unless you refresh, so maybe updates are too.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 16, 2018 • 11:17:59am

re: #354 MsJ

Did you check out the site it was posted on? Babe

They have a story called “Period-trapping is the only way to find out if you’re in a relationship or not”

That is the worst site to post this.

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ObserverArt  Jan 16, 2018 • 11:25:34am

re: #315 Ace-o-aces

Jordan

@JordanUhl
Steve Bannon just arrived for his Senate testimony

11:52 AM - Jan 16, 2018
250 250 Replies 645 645 Retweets 1,557 1,557 likes

Oh my gawd. Bannon cleaned up and went to the meeting as Steve Bannon and not Sloppy Steve.

Be worried Donald J. Trump. Be very worried.

Steve is coming clean!

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KGxvi  Jan 16, 2018 • 11:26:56am

re: #381 FormerDirtDart

That feels very significant. If Republicans are actually issuing subpoenas to other Republicans, shit is getting real.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 16, 2018 • 11:26:59am

Italics start at #322

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Dr. Matt  Jan 16, 2018 • 11:28:45am

re: #377 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

BREAKING: The Chinese credit agency, Dagong Global Credit Rating Co, has downgraded the United States’ credit rating from A- to BBB+

The Agency cited “political deficiencies.”

Yes, this means Donald Trump…

So MAGA!

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Dr. Matt  Jan 16, 2018 • 11:30:10am

re: #386 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Italics start at #322

Not seeing it here. Did you close out your browser, then pour hot coffee on your keyboard and dip your PC in three pounds of salt?

That should fix it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 11:31:22am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 11:31:56am
391
Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 16, 2018 • 11:32:00am

Trumpkins live in an inverted reality. I blame Fox, hate-radio, and wingnut blogs feeding a steady stream of bullshit.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2018 • 11:32:06am

re: #389 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So the denial was a lie, good to know.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2018 • 11:32:38am

re: #391 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Trumpkins live in an inverted reality. I blame Fox, hate-radio, and wingnut blogs feeding a steady stream of bullshit.

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A Trumper complaining about bullying. Oh.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 16, 2018 • 11:33:13am

re: #388 Dr. Matt

Not seeing here. Did you close out your browser, then pour hot coffee on your keyboard and dip your PC in three pounds of salt?

That should fix it.

Can I use tea, and sidewalk salt? I have no coffee, and only one container of table-salt.

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wrenchwench  Jan 16, 2018 • 11:34:44am

re: #391 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Trumpkins live in an inverted reality. I blame Fox, hate-radio, and wingnut blogs feeding a steady stream of bullshit.

[You’re inverting reality, and pretending that “we the people” means the far-right.]

Our reality is just leaning to the right a little bit.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 16, 2018 • 11:35:48am

NSFW/NSFL

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 16, 2018 • 11:36:53am

re: #395 wrenchwench

Our reality is just leaning to the right a little bit.

Compared to the civilized world, yes, but just a little to the right wasn’t enough for Republicans.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 16, 2018 • 11:36:59am

The mafia is the price we had to pay for security! ///

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wrenchwench  Jan 16, 2018 • 11:39:30am

re: #397 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Compared to the civilized world, yes, but just a little to the right wasn’t enough for Republicans.

I only meant we’re italicized. Some of us. Sort of.

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ObserverArt  Jan 16, 2018 • 11:40:44am

re: #355 scottslemmons

Ehh, I’m not so sure that print books are dying. I’m often more worried about what happens to the books on my Kindle if Amazon ever goes out of business.

And my bigger concern is that so damn few people read books at all anymore. :/

Should be nothing if you downloaded the file. You paid for the file, it should be yours just like a physical book.

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scottslemmons  Jan 16, 2018 • 11:46:11am

re: #400 ObserverArt

Should be nothing if you downloaded the file. You paid for the file, it should be yours just like a physical book.

But Amazon has removed purchased books from Kindles in the past. (The semi-fun irony is that it was some Orwell books removed…)

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jeffreyw  Jan 16, 2018 • 11:46:57am

re: #291 danarchy

OT -

Just a bit of a rant, I was looking for some new books to buy and in many cases the kindle version was more expensive than the paperback version. There are next to no production or shipping costs associated with an ebook. With a paperback you have material costs, shipping and distribution costs, storage costs, you’d think they would want people to order the electronic version. Think I will order the paperbacks out of spite.

Same thing with Music CDs, I can often buy one more cheaply than the MP3 download, and I get a hard copy backup of the song, shipped free, plus I can get the MP3 download, anyway, with Amazon’s auto-rip feature. I’m sure there’s some IP copyright tomfoolery going on.

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ObserverArt  Jan 16, 2018 • 11:48:52am

re: #365 jeffreyw

Mrs J has been feeding stray cats, and put some old bedding in a dog box we keep under an overhanging eave in case they need shelter. This stray is surly but we think it will come around when offered friendship and comfort. We have named him Pogo.

Hey good choice for a name for the furry critter.

It fits the times.

Pogo Possum - An amiable, humble, philosophical, personable, everyman opossum.
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ObserverArt  Jan 16, 2018 • 11:51:51am

re: #366 wrenchwench

About 6 months ago, I walked to my local library, for the first time in a few years, apparently. My card had expired. I didn’t know they do that. They asked if all the information was current ( we updated it) and with a click, my same card worked again. I checked out a book.

I haven’t been to the main Columbus Library since it has undergone and expansion, remodeling and completer redo of their systems. It reopened in the late fall. Almost stopped by the other day but didn’t. I want to check out not only their books, but their videos and movies on DVD. It was always a great library, it sounds like they made it even greater.

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dangerman  Jan 16, 2018 • 11:56:54am

re: #389 Backwoods_Sleuth

Asked why Trump has privately defended his “shithole” remark but publicly denied it, Sarah Sanders tells me, “The president hasn’t said he didn’t use strong language…He’s passionate about it. He’s not going to apologize for trying to fix our immigration system.”

“please answer the question i asked”

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 16, 2018 • 12:03:30pm

re: #370 Jay C

We (MDers) like Cardin. We have no desire to turn our politics into a “message”. We are already as blue as you can get; eastern shore, western MD, and southern western shore aside. We don’t don’t want radical. We like staid and rational and we really don’t like people who make their name busy undercutting the government.

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ObserverArt  Jan 16, 2018 • 12:10:07pm

re: #401 scottslemmons

But Amazon has removed purchased books from Kindles in the past. (The semi-fun irony is that it was some Orwell books removed…)

Hmmm. Dirty bastards. Copy the files to another computer if you can. You can always reload them later if need be.


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