In Which Steve Bannon Gets a Subpoena for Grand Jury Testimony in Mueller’s Russia Investigation

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Today we’re learning about the drop of a rather large shoe in Robert Mueller’s investigation of the Trump campaign’s Russia connections: Stephen Bannon has been subpoenaed to testify before a grand jury.

This comes on the heels of Donald Trump’s reckless, vicious attacks on Bannon, which makes it especially interesting.

WASHINGTON — Stephen K. Bannon, President Trump’s former chief strategist, was subpoenaed last week by the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, to testify before a grand jury as part of the investigation into possible links between Mr. Trump’s associates and Russia, according to a person with direct knowledge of the matter.

The move marked the first time Mr. Mueller is known to have used a grand jury subpoena to seek information from a member of Mr. Trump’s inner circle. The special counsel’s office has used subpoenas before to seek information on Mr. Trump’s associates and their possible ties to Russia or other foreign governments.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 16, 2018 • 11:41:52am

I was not expecting him to be called to testify, at least not at this point.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 16, 2018 • 11:43:01am

Monkeys use trees to catapult themselves out of Japanese laboratory

I wonder if one hero monkey had to stay behind to launch the 2nd to last monkey.
Unfortunately for the monkeys, they had no step 2 to their plan, and failed to run away.

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wrenchwench  Jan 16, 2018 • 11:44:26am

re: #1 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I was not expecting him to be called to testify, at least not at this point.

And where, exactly, is this point? Can you show me on a map? Or in the script? It always feels like the beginning of the end, wherever that is.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2018 • 11:45:29am

Re: Right wing populism. Plundering is fine just as long as “those people” are the ones impacted.

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KingKenrod  Jan 16, 2018 • 11:46:49am
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Dr. Matt  Jan 16, 2018 • 11:47:02am
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Belafon  Jan 16, 2018 • 11:48:42am

re: #6 Dr. Matt

Bannon probably failed to get into art school.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 16, 2018 • 11:48:47am

re: #3 wrenchwench

And where, exactly, is this point? Can you show me on a map? Or in the script? It always feels like the beginning of the end, wherever that is.

I mean that I expected a lot of other people to be called up to testify before his name came up.

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makeitstop  Jan 16, 2018 • 11:49:10am

re: #5 KingKenrod

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Has issuing a subpoena during a hearing ever even happened before?

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 16, 2018 • 11:50:20am
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jaunte  Jan 16, 2018 • 11:54:13am

Secretary Nielsen lying to Congressmen even after swearing to tell the truth.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 16, 2018 • 11:56:19am

re: #10 Ace-o-aces

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plansbandc  Jan 16, 2018 • 11:59:16am

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BeachDem  Jan 16, 2018 • 11:59:53am

re: #10 Ace-o-aces

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Isn’t he getting a little bit ahead of himself living in an alternate reality with his twitter handle?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 16, 2018 • 12:01:23pm

re: #14 BeachDem

Isn’t he getting a little bit ahead of himself living in an alternate reality with his twitter handle?

You never know what AZ wingnuts will do. This wouldn’t be the first lying shitbag they’ve elected.

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scottslemmons  Jan 16, 2018 • 12:02:34pm

re: #10 Ace-o-aces

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Craig Brittain: Revenge porn king.

Republicans attract the best candidates.

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KGxvi  Jan 16, 2018 • 12:02:58pm

re: #15 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

You never know what AZ wingnuts will do. This wouldn’t be the first lying shitbag they’ve elected.

I really can’t wait for Arpaio to get 38% of the vote in the general election next year.

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whitebeach  Jan 16, 2018 • 12:03:46pm

re: #13 plansbandc

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No need to resort to heroic medicine quite yet, I think. So far plain old vodka, or on those especially tough occasions, rum, still do the trick for me.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 16, 2018 • 12:04:32pm

re: #16 scottslemmons

Craig Brittain: Revenge porn king.

Republicans attract the best candidates.

Craig’s advantage in this is that no one would have sex with him, so there’s no chance of being a revenge porn victim himself.

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BeachDem  Jan 16, 2018 • 12:07:25pm

re: #19 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Craig’s advantage in this is that no one would have sex with him, so there’s no chance of being a revenge porn victim himself.

My favorite part of his whole skeevy skam is this:

Mr. Brittain’s past exploits as a revenge-porn website entrepreneur who carried “ads” from a “lawyer” who offered to help take down nekkid pictures from the site, for the low low filing fee of $250 bucks — oddly, that “lawyer’s” website was registered/owned by by Craig Brittain.
wonkette.com

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Dr. Matt  Jan 16, 2018 • 12:08:01pm

re: #16 scottslemmons

Craig Brittain: Revenge porn king.

Republicans attract the best candidates.

The little shitstain posted a fake tweet from his role model:

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Citizen K  Jan 16, 2018 • 12:10:17pm

So many things going on at this point. I could go through my usual hits, but instead I want to bring some levity instead.

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plansbandc  Jan 16, 2018 • 12:10:22pm

Republicans: Always the bottom of the barrel.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 16, 2018 • 12:10:46pm

Forget it Jake, it’s Chinatown.

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 16, 2018 • 12:11:03pm

re: #15 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

You never know what AZ wingnuts will do. This wouldn’t be the first lying shitbag they’ve elected.

Yeah, but the fact that 50% of the electorate are Women is gonna be a problem for him.

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VegasGolfer  Jan 16, 2018 • 12:12:11pm

What’d I miss that caused the Stock Market to plummet 268 pts. in the last few hours?

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Jan 16, 2018 • 12:12:40pm

Presidential Pardon coming in 3…2…1…

Despite Bannon and Trumps equal and personal dislike for each other, a Pardon will soon be issued for Bannon as yet another Constitutional Crisis oozes and seeps from this administration.

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Belafon  Jan 16, 2018 • 12:13:22pm

re: #26 VegasGolfer

What’d I miss that caused the Stock Market to plummet 268 pts. in the last few hours?

Maybe the fact that China downgraded our credit due to Trump.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2018 • 12:14:40pm

This Brittain Guy seems reasonable.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 16, 2018 • 12:15:24pm

re: #27 Rocky-in-Connecticut

But pardons would also be an admission of guilt, right?

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VegasGolfer  Jan 16, 2018 • 12:15:57pm

re: #28 Belafon

yup, read that this morning, don’t suppose we’ll hear about that from the yam

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makeitstop  Jan 16, 2018 • 12:17:46pm

In other news…Wallaby in custody after bouncing over Sydney Harbour Bridge

A police spokeswoman said the marsupial started in lane eight before hopping across a number of lanes on the bridge and exiting onto the Cahill Expressway and turning down Macquarie Street, heading for the Conservatorium of Music.

The speed on the Harbour Bridge was reduced while the wallaby was making its way south, and police pursued the animal before taking it into custody at the Conservatorium, the police spokeswoman said.

Noisy but cute video at the link.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 16, 2018 • 12:22:28pm
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KingKenrod  Jan 16, 2018 • 12:27:22pm

re: #9 makeitstop

Has issuing a subpoena during a hearing ever even happened before?

I don’t know, I suspect it is rare. But there’s the prospect of WH witness tampering here if they are trying to guide his testimony.

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ObserverArt  Jan 16, 2018 • 12:28:30pm

re: #3 wrenchwench

And where, exactly, is this point? Can you show me on a map? Or in the script? It always feels like the beginning of the end, wherever that is.

Whoa, whoa, whoa.

I’m not ready for existential philosophy this early in the day. Can we keep that down until after dinner. Thanks.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 12:29:18pm

ok, fine…

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ObserverArt  Jan 16, 2018 • 12:31:02pm

re: #10 Ace-o-aces

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Nice soul patch for a candidate for senate from Arizona.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 16, 2018 • 12:32:31pm

re: #37 ObserverArt

Nice soul patch for a candidate for senate from Arizona.

Especially for a soul-less cockbag.

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nines09  Jan 16, 2018 • 12:33:16pm

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wrenchwench  Jan 16, 2018 • 12:33:56pm

re: #35 ObserverArt

Whoa, whoa, whoa.

I’m not ready for existential philosophy this early in the day. Can we keep that down until after dinner. Thanks.

Come on, you’re an hour ahead of me, supposedly. Existential philosophy was last thread.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 12:35:01pm

JFC!!!

I really REALLY despise my Commonwealth’s governor (and, no, I did not vote for him).

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ObserverArt  Jan 16, 2018 • 12:35:27pm

re: #23 plansbandc

Republicans: Always the bottom of the barrel.

Political sludge.

There is a strong need for industrial cleaners to break it up so it can be disposed of.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 12:36:43pm
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Belafon  Jan 16, 2018 • 12:38:09pm

re: #41 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC!!!

I really REALLY despise my Commonwealth’s governor (and, no, I did not vote for him).

Sue him anyway folks. Don’t let his threats ruin government.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 16, 2018 • 12:38:09pm
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ObserverArt  Jan 16, 2018 • 12:39:21pm

re: #40 wrenchwench

Come on, you’re an hour ahead of me, supposedly. Existential philosophy was last thread.

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2 hours. Ohio is Eastern Time.

But still too early. I get into the heavy stuff after sundown.

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 16, 2018 • 12:40:06pm
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ObserverArt  Jan 16, 2018 • 12:40:30pm

re: #41 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC!!!

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I really REALLY despise my Commonwealth’s governor (and, no, I did not vote for him).

What do most of the Kentucky people think of the asshole?

I’m hoping he is not long for office. But then…

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austin_blue  Jan 16, 2018 • 12:40:38pm

re: #26 VegasGolfer

What’d I miss that caused the Stock Market to plummet 268 pts. in the last few hours?

Irrational exuberance.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2018 • 12:41:11pm

re: #43 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Well at least she’s honest unlike King.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2018 • 12:41:55pm

re: #45 FormerDirtDart

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Oh.

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wrenchwench  Jan 16, 2018 • 12:42:00pm

re: #46 ObserverArt

2 hours. Ohio is Eastern Time.

But still too early. I get into the heavy stuff after sundown.

Damnit, I had ‘2 hours’ until I ‘corrected’ it.

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 16, 2018 • 12:42:13pm
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FormerDirtDart  Jan 16, 2018 • 12:43:18pm
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FormerDirtDart  Jan 16, 2018 • 12:44:11pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 12:45:02pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 12:45:26pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 16, 2018 • 12:45:44pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 12:46:13pm

re: #55 FormerDirtDart

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so, the yam is faking being a moron.
got it.

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Citizen K  Jan 16, 2018 • 12:48:25pm

re: #54 FormerDirtDart

re: #55 FormerDirtDart

Forgive me for extreme skepticism.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jan 16, 2018 • 12:48:40pm

so not achieving peace in the mideast

Trump administration withholds $65 million from UN agency for Palestinians

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 16, 2018 • 12:49:10pm
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FormerDirtDart  Jan 16, 2018 • 12:50:08pm

The guy would have to have the absolute minimum muscle development to enable him to stand erect

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 16, 2018 • 12:57:11pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 12:57:50pm
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makeitstop  Jan 16, 2018 • 12:58:22pm
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 16, 2018 • 12:59:02pm

re: #43 Backwoods_Sleuth

Die is the wrong verb. He was murdered.

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jaunte  Jan 16, 2018 • 12:59:13pm

re: #63 FormerDirtDart

I’m 6’4” , 230. There is NO WAY Trump only weighs 9lbs more.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 16, 2018 • 1:00:24pm

re: #68 jaunte

I’m 6’4” , 230. There is NO WAY Trump only weighs 9lbs more.

I have to assume he has legs like pencils

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jaunte  Jan 16, 2018 • 1:01:03pm

re: #69 FormerDirtDart

260 plus at minimum.

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makeitstop  Jan 16, 2018 • 1:01:27pm

re: #69 FormerDirtDart

I have to assume he has legs like pencils

I have to assume the good doctor is blowing smoke up our asses.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 16, 2018 • 1:02:05pm

Santa must not have been available…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 1:02:12pm
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Stanley Sea  Jan 16, 2018 • 1:02:22pm

Bone spurs!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 1:02:35pm
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Citizen K  Jan 16, 2018 • 1:03:01pm

re: #71 makeitstop

I have to assume the good doctor is blowing smoke up our asses.

The entire thing feels like it throws all his previous examinations (yes, even Obama’s) into question. Because holy shit, this just feels like bullshit on its face.

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TedStriker  Jan 16, 2018 • 1:03:25pm

re: #71 makeitstop

I have to assume the good doctor is blowing smoke up our asses.

I have to assume Jackson’s fudging Trump’s results, because Trump is the man that can literally have him assigned him to a base above the Arctic Circle or end his career outright.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 16, 2018 • 1:03:38pm

re: #55 FormerDirtDart

Fake news! I get plenty of vigorous exercise!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 1:04:54pm
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Belafon  Jan 16, 2018 • 1:05:05pm

Do you guys not know how many calories you burn tweeting?!! It’s YUGE!

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jaunte  Jan 16, 2018 • 1:05:27pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 1:05:36pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 1:06:10pm
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jaunte  Jan 16, 2018 • 1:06:19pm

re: #82 Backwoods_Sleuth

Kevin McCarthy collects the red and pink ones for him.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 1:07:12pm

oh,

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Skip Intro  Jan 16, 2018 • 1:08:19pm

re: #85 Backwoods_Sleuth

There are multiple versions of this test. The most recent one I found was from 2014.

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jaunte  Jan 16, 2018 • 1:08:58pm
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austin_blue  Jan 16, 2018 • 1:09:14pm

Interesting factoid from Krugman’s NYT OpEd today regarding how the south and midwest have fallen well behind the rest of the country in wealth generation:

“…the 2016 election largely pitted these rising regions against those left behind, which is why counties carried by Clinton, who won only a narrow margin of the popular vote, account for a remarkable 64 percent of US G.D.P., almost twice as much as Trump counties.”

His OpEd is titled “Know-Nothings For the 21st Century”. It is very on-point, as usual.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 1:10:13pm

JFC
This is a fucking Greek tragedy.

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Kilroy was here  Jan 16, 2018 • 1:12:29pm

Trump is 239 pounds only if he did his physical on the moon..

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Citizen K  Jan 16, 2018 • 1:13:04pm

Welp. This ruined any hope for trying to keep levity here for the day:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 1:13:15pm
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jaunte  Jan 16, 2018 • 1:16:40pm

We are not bombing Cambodia.
There are WMDs in Iraq.
Trump is in great health.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 16, 2018 • 1:19:06pm

re: #26 VegasGolfer

What’d I miss that caused the Stock Market to plummet 268 pts. in the last few hours?

China’s biggest bank downgrading US credit rating?

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 16, 2018 • 1:20:10pm

It also doesn’t assess many other kinds of mental disorders. I’ve got several patients with severe psychiatric problems who absolutely ace the MMSE.

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ObserverArt  Jan 16, 2018 • 1:21:29pm

So, basically Doctor Ronny is saying Trump will live forever!

Yeah, right Doc.

I think Trump’s Goon Squad got to the doctor. I wonder what kind of dirt they have on him.

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jaunte  Jan 16, 2018 • 1:22:39pm
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CongoJack  Jan 16, 2018 • 1:23:14pm

re: #63 FormerDirtDart

The guy would have to have the absolute minimum muscle development to enable him to stand erect

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I’m 6’5 and 250 lbs… I am easily 50 lbs lighter than Pres Dump

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Belafon  Jan 16, 2018 • 1:23:15pm

re: #96 ObserverArt

So, basically Doctor Ronny is saying Trump will live forever!

Yeah, right Doc.

I think Trump’s Goon Squad got to the doctor. I wonder what kind of dirt they have on him.

He’s a member of the military. All they have to say is “How would you like to be handing out band-aids in Afghanistan?”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 16, 2018 • 1:25:03pm

Bullshit.

I’m 6’0”, and I’ve BEEN 239lbs, and I was nowhere near as fat as that tub of guts.

This means nothing in the report can be taken seriously. Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus.

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jaunte  Jan 16, 2018 • 1:25:21pm

Remember when European leaders walked 700 yards together, but Trump had to take a golf cart?

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 16, 2018 • 1:25:47pm
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nowherenorth2  Jan 16, 2018 • 1:27:01pm

re: #100 Blind Frog Belly White

I’m 6’2” and weigh 297. But I also powerlift. But a lot is in my stomach and I dont look that huge either

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mmmirele  Jan 16, 2018 • 1:27:21pm

I weigh 239. I’m 5 foot 6. I look thinner than Trump. That can’t be for real.

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ObserverArt  Jan 16, 2018 • 1:28:42pm

re: #99 Belafon

He’s a member of the military. All they have to say is “How would you like to be handing out band-aids in Afghanistan?”

The Generals gave him the orders. John Kelly would not surprise me at all. He seems to be a Goon too.

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KGxvi  Jan 16, 2018 • 1:30:45pm

re: #67 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Die is the wrong verb. He was murdered.

His murder was politically motivated, so assassinated would actually be an even more accurate verb.

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jaunte  Jan 16, 2018 • 1:31:23pm
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Cheechako  Jan 16, 2018 • 1:31:57pm

Well, it’s a well known fact that TV cameras will add 50 pounds to anyone.

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 16, 2018 • 1:32:58pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 16, 2018 • 1:33:50pm

re: #107 jaunte

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Muscle does weigh more than fat, and Trump won’t have any muscles at his age and with his complete lack of exercise.

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bratwurst  Jan 16, 2018 • 1:34:15pm

re: #107 jaunte

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Targetpractice  Jan 16, 2018 • 1:34:17pm

So basically it sounds like the Doc is either bullshitting us about Trump’s height or weight in order for his BMI to magically be 1lb short of being medically diagnosed as obese.

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jaunte  Jan 16, 2018 • 1:36:28pm

re: #112 Targetpractice

The 240 limit will never be crossed by this WH staff.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 16, 2018 • 1:36:45pm
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MsJ  Jan 16, 2018 • 1:36:53pm

re: #82 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Targetpractice  Jan 16, 2018 • 1:37:04pm

Surprise Dr. Jackson didn’t also declare that Trump’s dick is absolutely huge just to stroke his ego a little more.

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jaunte  Jan 16, 2018 • 1:37:05pm

We are all Girthers now.

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Interesting Times  Jan 16, 2018 • 1:37:06pm

re: #110 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Muscle does weigh more than fat, and Trump won’t have any muscles at his age and with his complete lack of exercise.

Technically no (it’s like that old joke, “What weighs more? A pound of feathers or a pound of lead?”) It’s just that fat cells take up a lot more space than muscle (that is, muscle cells are denser…so, fat vs muscle is sort of like a cotton ball vs. a pea)

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ObserverArt  Jan 16, 2018 • 1:38:31pm

re: #114 FormerDirtDart

Miranda Green

@mirandacgreen
Sarah Sanders calls the fake news awards event slated for tomorrow a “potential” event.

4:34 PM - Jan 16, 2018
1 1 Reply 2 2 Retweets 1 1 like

Come see the Clown Show.

No thanks, we see too much of this Clown Show.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 1:39:23pm

re: #119 ObserverArt

Come see the Clown Show.

No thanks, we see too much of this Clown Show.

the clown show that never ends…

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austin_blue  Jan 16, 2018 • 1:39:35pm

Maybe it’s not body fat. Maybe it’s just hot air?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 16, 2018 • 1:39:46pm

re: #114 FormerDirtDart

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Belafon  Jan 16, 2018 • 1:41:56pm

re: #118 Interesting Times

Technically no (it’s like that old joke, “What weighs more? A pound of feathers or a pound of lead?”) It’s just that fat cells take up a lot more space than muscle (that is, muscle cells are denser…so, fat vs muscle is sort of like a cotton ball vs. a pea)

So, a cubic Trump of fat would weigh less than a cubic Cutler of muscle.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 1:42:53pm

excuse me while I don’t give a flying fuck about that…

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 16, 2018 • 1:43:21pm

re: #108 Cheechako

Well, it’s a well known fact that TV cameras will add 50 pounds to anyone.

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So, three cameras on him at all times?

Yeah, not my joke.

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jaunte  Jan 16, 2018 • 1:43:28pm

re: #123 Belafon

1.06 (muscle) to .9 (fat) ratio.

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 16, 2018 • 1:44:00pm
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jaunte  Jan 16, 2018 • 1:44:22pm

Whoops, muscle to fat, I mean.

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Weaselone  Jan 16, 2018 • 1:44:56pm

re: #126 jaunte

I thought it was 1.06 to .9?

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jaunte  Jan 16, 2018 • 1:45:54pm

re: #129 Weaselone

You’re right, I screwed that part up too.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 16, 2018 • 1:47:21pm

So Trump is 6ft 3in and 239.

Mr. Olympia Phil Heath is 5ft 9in and 240….

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makeitstop  Jan 16, 2018 • 1:47:28pm
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jaunte  Jan 16, 2018 • 1:47:32pm
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Mike Lamb  Jan 16, 2018 • 1:48:15pm

The guy that needed a golf cart at whatever summit he was at has more stamina than anyone around him?

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blueraven  Jan 16, 2018 • 1:51:07pm

I would love to have the doc’s scales at my house. No adjustments please.

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nines09  Jan 16, 2018 • 1:52:59pm

re: #133 jaunte

Come on, chicken bone……

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ObserverArt  Jan 16, 2018 • 1:53:16pm

re: #134 Mike Lamb

The guy that needed a golf cart at whatever summit he was at has more stamina than anyone around him?

That’s because he was all dressed up in his best suit and they didn’t want the pig him sweating all over the place.

Now, had he been in his genes, he would have jogged past them all waving and yelling see you later suckers!

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Old Liberal  Jan 16, 2018 • 1:55:44pm

The health report, wow. So is even the military medical staff compromised, or are these the real numbers? What the f…..

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makeitstop  Jan 16, 2018 • 1:56:54pm

re: #138 Old Liberal

The health report, wow. So is even the military medical staff compromised, or are these the real numbers? What the f…..

The doctor got his orders and followed them, from the look of it.

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jaunte  Jan 16, 2018 • 1:59:00pm

re: #139 makeitstop

Very North Korean.

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Cheechako  Jan 16, 2018 • 1:59:00pm

That Doctor is going to look real bad if trump has a heart attack on the golf course tomorrow.

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Old Liberal  Jan 16, 2018 • 2:00:07pm

re: #139 makeitstop

The doctor got his orders and followed them, from the look of it.

Or is it possible, the doctor wrote a real report, Trump had it changed, and Jackson was ordered not to betray the commander in chief?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 2:00:35pm
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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Jan 16, 2018 • 2:00:40pm

re: #63 FormerDirtDart

The guy would have to have the absolute minimum muscle development to enable him to stand erect

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If he is 6’3” then he weighs well over 300 pounds. I know this as a former fatty. That weight has to be false.

And, as someone who used to be 5’10” but is now 5’9” - and 70 years old - I find his apparent growth in height from 6’2” to 6’3” over the last decade or so to be unbelievable. There is no way he is not at least an inch or more shorter than he used to be.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 16, 2018 • 2:01:48pm

Trump is 239 pounds? And I’m 6’6”. (I’m 5’4”)

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makeitstop  Jan 16, 2018 • 2:01:48pm

re: #142 Old Liberal

Or is it possible, the doctor wrote a real report, Trump had it changed, and Jackson was ordered not to betray the commander in chief?

This doctor is the guy who did Obama’s physicals, and was widely hyped as a straight shooter.

I’m thinking there were probably subtle threats involved.

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nines09  Jan 16, 2018 • 2:01:54pm
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jaunte  Jan 16, 2018 • 2:02:02pm

re: #144 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

his apparent growth in height from 6’2” to 6’3” over the last decade

That bit in particular has all the hallmarks of a personal Trump addition.

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makeitstop  Jan 16, 2018 • 2:02:16pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 2:02:34pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 16, 2018 • 2:02:47pm

re: #138 Old Liberal

The health report, wow. So is even the military medical staff compromised, or are these the real numbers? What the f…..

It’s kind of like lying to the VP at your company and telling him that really dumb idea he has is fucking brilliant and will make a ton of money.

Got to keep in good with the people who can fuck up your life in an instant.

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jaunte  Jan 16, 2018 • 2:03:54pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 16, 2018 • 2:04:43pm

re: #139 makeitstop

The doctor got his orders and followed them, from the look of it.

And wingnuts are now accusing “dims” of attacking the doctor.
We live in the equivalent of North Korea, and the wingnuts have found their dear leader.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 16, 2018 • 2:05:58pm

re: #152 jaunte

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jaunte  Jan 16, 2018 • 2:09:26pm

Ambien side effects
drugs.com

Psychiatric

Common (1% to 10%): Depression, abnormal dreams, sleep disorder, insomnia, exacerbated/aggravated insomnia, hallucinations, agitation, nightmare, drugged feeling, confusion, euphoria, memory impairment, amnesia, anterograde amnesia, nervousness, disorientation, anxiety, psychomotor retardation, binge eating, depersonalization, disinhibition, mood swings, stress symptoms, apathy

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Jack Burton  Jan 16, 2018 • 2:10:34pm

re: #152 jaunte

“Like we all do”…

On what planet? I know 2 people with Ambien prescriptions. One time one of them walked with me out to my truck when I was leaving a get together at his place. We had a bizarre 20 minute rambling and pointless conversation. He couldn’t remember how to get to the parking lot, couldn’t remember how to get back to his condo, and sat down under a tree until his wife came looking for him.

When asked about it, he has no memory of this. Also he doesn’t drink.

NO ONE WITH ACCESS TO NUCLEAR WEAPONS SHOULD BE ON THAT SHIT!

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jaunte  Jan 16, 2018 • 2:11:05pm
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dangerman  Jan 16, 2018 • 2:11:33pm

re: #114 FormerDirtDart

Sarah Sanders calls the fake news awards event slated for tomorrow a “potential” event.

the “event” was two weeks ago when he made the announcement
then again when he moved the date

none of those folks care if anything else ever really happens
to them it already did because he said it would

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Old Liberal  Jan 16, 2018 • 2:11:53pm

re: #151 Eclectic Cyborg

It’s kind of like lying to the VP at your company and telling him that really dumb idea he has is fucking brilliant and will make a ton of money.

Got to keep in good with the people who can fuck up your life in an instant.

So is our conclusion that we can’t rely on the military to tell the truth about small things, or that we can’t rely on the military to tell the truth about anything? Are we forced to pray for some Reality Winner or Chelsea Manning to save us?

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BlueGrl21  Jan 16, 2018 • 2:13:39pm

re: #95 Ace-o-aces

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It also doesn’t assess many other kinds of mental disorders. I’ve got several patients with severe psychiatric problems who absolutely ace the MMSE.

I’m bipolar. I could go off my meds and ace the MMSE. Doesn’t mean you’d want me near open flame or the Ginsu knives.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 2:14:33pm

re: #151 Eclectic Cyborg

It’s kind of like lying to the VP at your company and telling him that really dumb idea he has is fucking brilliant and will make a ton of money.

Got to keep in good with the people who can fuck up your life in an instant.

also wondering how close Dr Jackson is to retirement…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 2:15:21pm

re: #152 jaunte

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I have never taken Ambien in my life.

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jaunte  Jan 16, 2018 • 2:16:23pm

re: #162 Backwoods_Sleuth

Me either. That doctor is more politician than doctor.

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MsJ  Jan 16, 2018 • 2:17:24pm

This is weird.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2018 • 2:18:38pm

re: #164 MsJ

This is weird.

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Very weird.

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BlueGrl21  Jan 16, 2018 • 2:20:30pm

re: #162 Backwoods_Sleuth

I have never taken Ambien in my life.

I have. I started hallucinating. I would not sleep, stay awake and ramble, then forget entire conversations. Poof, gone. There is a reason people use it recreationally.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 16, 2018 • 2:22:28pm

Isn’t Ambien the one where people get in their cars & go driving without knowing a thing?

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nines09  Jan 16, 2018 • 2:22:31pm

re: #164 MsJ

“Well if the syphilis hasn’t killed him by now, all bets are off…..”

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BlueGrl21  Jan 16, 2018 • 2:23:01pm

re: #167 Stanley Sea

Isn’t Ambien the one where people get in their cars & go driving without knowing a thing?

Yep, that would be the one.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 16, 2018 • 2:23:07pm

Evening Lizardim.

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 16, 2018 • 2:24:08pm

Update:

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 16, 2018 • 2:24:50pm

re: #145 Ace Rothstein

Trump is 239 pounds? And I’m 6’6”. (I’m 5’4”)

I’m 6’ 2” and 230 lbs. There’s no goddamn way Trump is my size. NONE.

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ObserverArt  Jan 16, 2018 • 2:25:03pm

re: #155 jaunte

Ambien side effects
drugs.com

He seems to have some of those other effects traits too, not just the ones you put in bold type.

Like these: agitation, confusion, euphoria, memory impairment, amnesia and disorientation.

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KGxvi  Jan 16, 2018 • 2:25:24pm

re: #159 Old Liberal

So is our conclusion that we can’t rely on the military to tell the truth about small things, or that we can’t rely on the military to tell the truth about anything? Are we forced to pray for some Reality Winner or Chelsea Manning to save us?

A healthy distrust of institutions is always a good thing. Or as the old proverb goes, “trust but verify.”

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jaunte  Jan 16, 2018 • 2:27:10pm

re: #173 ObserverArt

He seems to have some of those other effects traits too, not just the ones you put in bold type.

Like these: agitation, confusion, euphoria, memory impairment, amnesia and disorientation.

Shadow President Miller is counting on it.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 16, 2018 • 2:27:46pm

re: #172 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I’m 6’ 2” and 230 lbs. There’s no goddamn way Trump is my size. NONE.

I’m the same height, and quite a bit heavier than you, and I’m way less fat than Trump is.

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ObserverArt  Jan 16, 2018 • 2:28:51pm

re: #164 MsJ

This is weird.

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Yeah it is…and talking about a second term sure makes it seem political…like campaigning.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 2:30:13pm

if he sleeps only 4-5 hours a night WITH Ambien, then it’s not doing its main stated purpose.

I sleep 4-5 hours a night without Ambien, but that’s because I’m getting on in years and have a bladder that can occasionally be demanding at 3 am.

I know, I know…TMI.
You young’uns…that is one of the rewards for getting old.

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KingKenrod  Jan 16, 2018 • 2:30:17pm

Army physicals for prez have always struck me as ridiculously positive. I think they do them for the sole purpose of “reassuring” everyone.

But Trump is the first fat-ass, crazy, unhealthy president in modern times, so the lies really stick out.

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ObserverArt  Jan 16, 2018 • 2:31:13pm

re: #167 Stanley Sea

Isn’t Ambien the one where people get in their cars & go driving without knowing a thing?

Tiger Woods…found out of it at a stop light in his SUV…pretty sure. He had others in his system, but I think I read where the Ambien might have been the culprit for how he was found.

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KGxvi  Jan 16, 2018 • 2:31:39pm

re: #179 KingKenrod

Army physicals for prez have always struck me as ridiculously positive. I think they do them for the sole purpose of “reassuring” everyone.

But Trump is the first fat-ass, crazy, unhealthy president in modern times, so the lies really stick out.

That’s probably the best way of looking at this whole thing.

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Old Liberal  Jan 16, 2018 • 2:32:28pm

re: #174 KGxvi

A healthy distrust of institutions is always a good thing. Or as the old proverb goes, “trust but verify.”

I agree, but this forces a decision- military compromised, or not? If compromised, from where? Kelly to JCOS? Do we already have a coup?

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 16, 2018 • 2:34:04pm
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Old Liberal  Jan 16, 2018 • 2:34:28pm

re: #181 KGxvi

That’s probably the best way of looking at this whole thing.

Except I would bet that Obama’s numbers and W’s numbers were correct. They may have been presented with a rosy hue, but they were correct.

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dangerman  Jan 16, 2018 • 2:36:52pm

re: #172 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I’m 6’ 2” and 230 lbs. There’s no goddamn way Trump is my size. NONE.

me neither
5’ 10” 160#

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KGxvi  Jan 16, 2018 • 2:36:57pm

re: #182 Old Liberal

I agree, but this forces a decision- military compromised, or not? If compromised, from where? Kelly to JCOS? Do we already have a coup?

As #179 KingKenrod suggests, the “normal” purpose of these reports is to reassure the American people that the president isn’t going to have a heart attack behind the desk in the Oval Office. Trump has fucked up so many norms that nothing seems to really work right. I don’t think the military is compromised, and I don’t think we are going to have a coup. There is too much diffused power in our system to make a coup a real possibility.

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EPR-radar  Jan 16, 2018 • 2:37:18pm

This doctor was given a script and orders to follow it — no way does any normal doctor babble about “good genes” like a eugenicist from the 1920s that fell through a time warp.

I’d love to see the first draft of that script. It probably started something like this: “Donald Trump is a God, mentally, physically and sexually.”

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EPR-radar  Jan 16, 2018 • 2:38:13pm

re: #186 KGxvi

As #179 KingKenrod suggests, the “normal” purpose of these reports is to reassure the American people that the president isn’t going to have a heart attack behind the desk in the Oval Office. Trump has fucked up so many norms that nothing seems to really work right. I don’t think the military is compromised, and I don’t think we are going to have a coup. There is too much diffused power in our system to make a coup a real possibility.

The best thing Trump could do for the country is to go ahead and have that heart attack.

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KGxvi  Jan 16, 2018 • 2:38:54pm

re: #184 Old Liberal

Except I would bet that Obama’s numbers and W’s numbers were correct. They may have been presented with a rosy hue, but they were correct.

I’m trying to remember, when W invoked the 25th for surgery, was the presence of polyps disclosed by his physical or was it disclosed by the White House?

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KGxvi  Jan 16, 2018 • 2:39:58pm

re: #188 EPR-radar

The best thing Trump could do for the country is to go ahead and have that heart attack.

I don’t want him to be a martyr. I want him unceremoniously removed from the White House because 85 Senators voted to convict on multiple Articles of Impeachment.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 16, 2018 • 2:40:10pm

What gets me about this Ronny guy. Obama appointed him.

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HypnoToad  Jan 16, 2018 • 2:40:40pm

Doesn’t this medical report make it a wee bit more problematic to claim a “mental incapacity” defense when trump goes on trial?

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Old Liberal  Jan 16, 2018 • 2:43:45pm

re: #191 GlutenFreeJesus

What gets me about this Ronny guy. Obama appointed him.

Obama appointed Comey.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 16, 2018 • 2:43:57pm

re: #192 HypnoToad

Doesn’t this medical report make it a wee bit more problematic to claim a “mental incapacity” defense when trump goes on trial?

Trump will just refuse to go on trial. I mean, who is going to make him? Jeff Sessions?

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MsJ  Jan 16, 2018 • 2:44:03pm

re: #188 EPR-radar

The best thing Trump could do for the country is to go ahead and have that heart attack.

That’s my sentiment, exactly. Who cares if he’s healthy or fat or shorter than stated? The guy is a louse, his policies suck ass, his ‘best people’ are horrible, he’s stupid and moronic and doesn’t even want to learn anything.

He obviously chooses to be this way.

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makeitstop  Jan 16, 2018 • 2:44:22pm

I like this one.

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ObserverArt  Jan 16, 2018 • 2:44:51pm

re: #191 GlutenFreeJesus

What gets me about this Ronny guy. Obama appointed him.

Obama chose many people for their reputations not their politics. Now though, it appears many are willing to let their freak out because of Trump.

Trump really has affected a lot of people’s ids and opened the gates for them to be what they may have always been undercover.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 16, 2018 • 2:45:01pm

Are we officially NK now? Sounds like the kind of report that little Kim would get from his doctor. And given Trump family history of Alzheimer’s, should the doctor actually be talking about “good genes”?

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Stanley Sea  Jan 16, 2018 • 2:45:05pm

re: #180 ObserverArt

Tiger Woods…found out of it at a stop light in his SUV…pretty sure. He had others in his system, but I think I read where the Ambien might have been the culprit for how he was found.

There was a Kennedy who thought he was on his way to a vote iirc.

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jaunte  Jan 16, 2018 • 2:45:10pm

re: #191 GlutenFreeJesus

What gets me about this Ronny guy. Obama appointed him.

It’s usually hard to see the “ethically compromised” part of the resume.

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ObserverArt  Jan 16, 2018 • 2:47:47pm

re: #199 Stanley Sea

There was a Kennedy who thought he was on his way to a vote iirc.

Googled it up. Kerry Kennedy.

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MsJ  Jan 16, 2018 • 2:48:00pm

Republicans are fucking monsters.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 16, 2018 • 2:48:04pm

Well they are claiming he grew an inch, which helps in the BMI obese factor

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Stanley Sea  Jan 16, 2018 • 2:49:11pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 16, 2018 • 2:55:20pm

re: #203 Stanley Sea

Well they are claiming he grew an inch, which helps in the BMI obese factor

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Maggie said something useful for once!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 2:57:42pm

re: #191 GlutenFreeJesus

What gets me about this Ronny guy. Obama appointed him.

Obama appointed him to be Bush’s WH physician?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 16, 2018 • 2:59:08pm

re: #206 Backwoods_Sleuth

en.wikipedia.org

Ronny Lynn Jackson (born May 4, 1967) is an American medical doctor and United States Navy one-star admiral who is currently serving as Physician to the President. First appointed on July 25, 2013, by Barack Obama, he was retained by Donald Trump after his election in 2016.[1]

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jaunte  Jan 16, 2018 • 3:03:41pm

re: #207 GlutenFreeJesus

“Jackson was born and raised in Levelland, Texas”

James McMurtry - Levelland

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makeitstop  Jan 16, 2018 • 3:03:46pm

If Trump thinks a shutdown will slow down the Mueller investigation, he can forget about that.

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BeachDem  Jan 16, 2018 • 3:04:26pm

re: #207 GlutenFreeJesus

en.wikipedia.org

In 2006, while still in Iraq, Jackson was selected as a White House physician. Since arriving at the White House, he has directed the Executive Health Care for the President’s Cabinet and Senior Staff, served as physician supervisor for the Camp David Presidential Retreat, held the position of physician to the White House and led the White House Medical Unit as its director. He has served as White House physician during the past three administrations

en.wikipedia.org

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 3:07:21pm

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Skip Intro  Jan 16, 2018 • 3:07:35pm

re: #154 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

See, here’s the problem with that.

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Skip Intro  Jan 16, 2018 • 3:09:43pm

re: #161 Backwoods_Sleuth

also wondering how close Dr Jackson is to retirement…

It was being told that he’d be the chief medical officer on the first one way trip to Mars that did it.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 16, 2018 • 3:12:43pm

re: #166 BlueGrl21

I have. I started hallucinating. I would not sleep, stay awake and ramble, then forget entire conversations. Poof, gone. There is a reason people use it recreationally.

I could eat a quart of ice cream on ambien and not remember.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 16, 2018 • 3:12:44pm

re: #166 BlueGrl21

I have. I started hallucinating. I would not sleep, stay awake and ramble, then forget entire conversations. Poof, gone. There is a reason people use it recreationally.

I was prescribed it when I was 14.

That prescription didn’t last through the side effects.

I will never, ever touch that shit again.

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jaunte  Jan 16, 2018 • 3:13:32pm
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dangerman  Jan 16, 2018 • 3:15:42pm

re: #214 Barefoot Grin

I could eat a quart of ice cream on ambien and not remember.

calories dont count then

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 16, 2018 • 3:17:20pm

re: #214 Barefoot Grin

I could eat a quart of ice cream on ambien and not remember.

Ambien never made me do anything weird, but I recently made myself some peanut butter on toast on temezipam, and was surprised to wake up with a paper plate on my chest. At least I clearly slept well.

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ipsos  Jan 16, 2018 • 3:17:50pm

re: #215 klys (maker of Silmarils)

During a period of particularly intense sleepless stress when mrs. i was going through one of her health crises, they gave me a prescription for that stuff.

I use it very, very sparingly and expect to be mostly out of it for 24-36 hours afterward. Nasty, nasty, nasty.

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ozharas  Jan 16, 2018 • 3:18:11pm

Just converting 239 pounds into kilos, for context….

108.5 kgs…. absolutely, categorically impossible, surely he weighs at least 130kgs!

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 16, 2018 • 3:19:00pm

re: #217 dangerman

calories dont count then

Yeah—forever 239lbs!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 16, 2018 • 3:19:58pm

re: #219 ipsos

During a period of particularly intense sleepless stress when mrs. i was going through one of her health crises, they gave me a prescription for that stuff.

I use it very, very sparingly and expect to be mostly out of it for 24-36 hours afterward. Nasty, nasty, nasty.

I flat out tripped on it, and not in good ways.

Never again.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 16, 2018 • 3:20:00pm

re: #218 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Ambien never made me do anything weird, but I recently made myself some peanut butter on toast on temezipam, and was surprised to wake up with a paper plate on my chest. At least I clearly slept well.

I only took it once. The thought of maybe getting behind the wheel….

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 16, 2018 • 3:20:01pm

He said it every year. It appears to be his boilerplate for Presidential exams.

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meteor  Jan 16, 2018 • 3:21:21pm

re: #167 Stanley Sea

Tiger Woods was on it.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jan 16, 2018 • 3:22:09pm

“After years of over taxation, regulation, and mono-party politics the State of California and many of it’s 58 Counties have become ungovernable,” the group said in a statement, citing a “decline in essential basic services” including education, law enforcement, infrastructure and health care.

obviously the answer is less government that does more, funded by lower taxes that will yield more money

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calochortus  Jan 16, 2018 • 3:22:49pm

The bottom line is that Trump probably does have good genes, he’s at least borderline obese and in generally lousy physical shape. He’s able to pass a simple cognitive test. He remains a nasty piece of work.

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ObserverArt  Jan 16, 2018 • 3:23:33pm

As bad as Ambien is on it’s own, think of how whacked out someone can get that takes it in combination with other drugs, even alcohol which is a huge no no I believe like most drugs. But people do it.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jan 16, 2018 • 3:25:23pm

Ambien is used to treat insomnia.

ambien + 12 diet cokes == judy garland losing her mind and her health

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calochortus  Jan 16, 2018 • 3:25:29pm

re: #226 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

“After years of over taxation, regulation, and mono-party politics the State of California and many of it’s 58 Counties have become ungovernable,” the group said in a statement, citing a “decline in essential basic services” including education, law enforcement, infrastructure and health care.

obviously the answer is less government that does more, funded by lower taxes that will yield more money

Perhaps whatever group issued this assessment would care to be more specific about which counties, precisely, are “ungovernable.” They may be poor, they may have problems, they may need help, but ungovernable? I think not.

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MsJ  Jan 16, 2018 • 3:25:36pm

re: #224 Ace-o-aces

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He said it every year. It appears to be his boilerplate for Presidential exams.

Did he speak stupidly before? Because what’s noted above is shocking coming out of the mouth of a medical professional.

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nines09  Jan 16, 2018 • 3:26:47pm
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Renaissance_Man  Jan 16, 2018 • 3:28:29pm

I don’t know what it’s like when the president comes to your clinic, but knowing how a routine clinic visit goes, and knowing how things change when a VIP comes through, I have some guesses about the report.

First of all, I doubt he was weighed. Weight is gotten before you see a doctor at all, usually by the aide taking you in. I can imagine that a president, surrounded by Secret Service, is going to come in, a polite aide asks him to step on the scale, and Trump, in that dismissive way he usually has when addressing people, just shakes his head. Nobody’s going to make him step on the scale, nor would they make any regular patient step on the scale if for some reason the patient couldn’t or didn’t want to. They’d just ask him how much he weighed. And he’d say 239, which would be written down, and that’s just what it is. If there was some specific disease process that they were looking for where weight mattered (and, unfortunately, just being a tub of lard doesn’t count), then they might investigate further, but a routine process like this isn’t something anyone’s going to fight over. Similarly, if he was measured for height at all, nobody’s going to press the slide and muss his hair, which easily adds 2 inches to his height. All a doctor is going to see is what’s written down, and he’s unlikely to embarrass any patient, much less a commander in chief, by looking at a weight and going ‘hmm, I suspect you’re more of a fatass than this’.

Secondly, I don’t doubt that he does have good genes, and it’s not uncharacteristic for a doctor to say so. For a 70 year old, he’s not in bad shape. Some might even say good shape - I’ve seen a lot worse. He’s active and plays golf a ton, hasn’t had multiple surgeries, doesn’t appear to be taking a ton of meds for blood pressure, diabetes, and the like, and is able to perform all activities of daily living and then some. These are low bars, but they’re good enough for an average 70 year old to declare them reasonably healthy. To be 70 and able to do light outdoor exercise almost daily while also dealing with only mild dementia is pretty fair. To be lucky enough to not be dealing with cancer or any chronic condition like arthritis, diabetes, and so on is in fact a sign of good genes, doubly so when you consider that he eats like shit. Some people are just lucky like that. It’s part of why I also believe when he says he doesn’t drink - light drinkers and nondrinkers are much more likely to be like that, as well as nonsmokers.

The 30 point MMSE he describes is not for dementia, it’s used to assess acute delirium or confusion. Nor does it say anything about sociopathy, narcissism or language skills, which are his major deficits. Not sure I believe the BP and HR, but it’s not impossible, I guess. I did not hear any particular toadying in what the doc said, though it’s not quite a normal way of reporting it, but I attribute that in no small part to the scrutiny in the room and that the whole event is under in general.

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meteor  Jan 16, 2018 • 3:28:39pm

re: #216 jaunte

ROFL

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Charles Johnson  Jan 16, 2018 • 3:31:36pm

Unfortunately, Trump is pretty healthy for a 71-year old asshole.

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wrenchwench  Jan 16, 2018 • 3:35:44pm

There was a ‘Silver Alert’ in yesterday’s local paper for a man the same age as Mr. w, to whom I relayed the info. I said, ‘It sounds like he was wearing your standard ‘Veteran’s outfit’ (jeans, t-shirt, and jacket) except he had slippers on.’ Mr. w said, ‘I’m nothing like him. I don’t even OWN slippers.’

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Stanley Sea  Jan 16, 2018 • 3:35:51pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 16, 2018 • 3:36:16pm

re: #167 Stanley Sea

Isn’t Ambien the one where people get in their cars & go driving without knowing a thing?

Under state law, the effects of Ambien and other sleeping pills count as impairing driving. The law says that any drug counts if it affects the brain, nervous system or muscles, which Ambien definitely does. Additionally, drowsiness from any cause leads to unsafe driving, and the effects of Ambien on driving are well documented. This is true even when taken on its own, in recommended doses—your doctor should warn you not to drive while under the effects of this drug.

He can ask for the nuclear football and codes but can’t drive…
More seriously, lets say he is two hours into his sleep pattern and on Ambien. An aide with a Pentagon General in tow rushes in with some horrible news of some incident like a dangerous looking missile launch from some hated place. Some “shithole”.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 3:38:01pm

re: #235 Charles Johnson

Unfortunately, Trump is pretty healthy for a 71-year old asshole.

No, he is not.

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nines09  Jan 16, 2018 • 3:38:26pm

re: #235 Charles Johnson

Unfortunately, Trump is pretty healthy for a 71-year old asshole.

So they say.

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whitebeach  Jan 16, 2018 • 3:39:03pm

The average height loss for human beings is roughly half an inch per decade after age 40, with somewhat accelerating loss after 70. So if Trump was ever 6’3” he should be about 6’1-and-a-half”. I’m with re: #233 Renaissance_Man. A nurse probably asked Trump about his height and he exaggerated, and the nurse just wrote it down because why argue?

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wrenchwench  Jan 16, 2018 • 3:39:14pm

re: #238 Unshaken Defiance

The law says that any drug counts if it affects the brain, nervous system or muscles, which Ambien definitely does.

Caffeine does that. Hell, I think a glass of milk does that.

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 16, 2018 • 3:39:34pm

re: #231 MsJ

Did he speak stupidly before? Because what’s noted above is shocking coming out of the mouth of a medical professional.

I don’t think he had to have an actual press conference before. He just released a statement saying Obama was in excellent health and everyone just looked at a picture of the President in his swimwear and was like, “yep!”.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 16, 2018 • 3:39:34pm

re: #239 Backwoods_Sleuth

No, he is not.

He is for an obese 71 year-old that eats trash and doesn’t exercise.

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Old Liberal  Jan 16, 2018 • 3:41:33pm

re: #241 whitebeach

The average height loss for human beings is roughly half an inch per decade after age 40, with somewhat accelerating loss after 70. So if Trump was ever 6’3” he should be about 6’1-and-a-half”. I’m with . A nurse probably asked Trump about his height and he exaggerated, and the nurse just wrote it down because why argue?

To me it was never about whether he was healthy or not, it was about finding one thing that he couldn’t “doctor”. Well, this one ain’t it, the fix was in here too. Maybe the doctor, like Cotton, never “heard” anyone say that Drumpf staffers filled out the entire form in advance, and the admiral doctors job was to assess those numbers. Just like Bornstein.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 16, 2018 • 3:43:50pm

The only way Trump could be that fat while weighing that little would be if he were stuffed with goose down.

247
plansbandc  Jan 16, 2018 • 3:44:35pm

re: #41 Backwoods_Sleuth

What an absolute cock.

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wrenchwench  Jan 16, 2018 • 3:45:47pm

re: #246 Blind Frog Belly White

The only way Trump could be that fat while weighing that little would be if he were stuffed with goose down.

I think he stuffed down more than one goose.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 3:47:35pm

re: #244 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

He is for an obese 71 year-old that eats trash and doesn’t exercise.

ok, he’s apparently still breathing and tweeting.
That’s a really low bar.

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petesh  Jan 16, 2018 • 3:48:40pm

For the first time, I wish the Warriors had gone to the White House. Steph Curry is 6’ 3” so that would be an interesting comparison. Curry does look about 2” taller than Obama, which is right, but if you look at the picture, you’ll still that Obama looks kinda little (which he’s not) around the rest of the team. Trump would mostly look fat.
nba.com

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whitebeach  Jan 16, 2018 • 3:48:57pm

re: #246 Blind Frog Belly White

The only way Trump could be that fat while weighing that little would be if he were stuffed with goose down.

Let’s be fair: There are weight savings having to do with unusually small hands and perhaps other appendages.

OTOH, with this guy I can’t help remembering the old joke: “Want to lose fifteen pounds of ugly fat? Cut off your head.”

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 16, 2018 • 3:49:17pm

re: #242 wrenchwench

Caffeine does that. Hell, I think a glass of milk does that.

I think they mean drug as in on the government “schedule” of prohibited or regulated inebriates. I know one guy got his charges dropped on dui despite being on caffeine.

Heck here in California you can get a dui on a bicycle or skateboard, penal code saya moving vehicle, not motor vehicle.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 16, 2018 • 3:49:59pm

re: #249 Backwoods_Sleuth

ok, he’s apparently still breathing and tweeting.
That’s a really low bar.

Unfortunately, only the good die young.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 16, 2018 • 3:50:06pm

re: #251 whitebeach

Let’s be fair: There are weight savings having to do with unusually small hands and perhaps other appendages.

OTOH, with this guy I can’t help remembering the old joke: “Want to lose fifteen pounds of ugly fat? Cut off your head.”

*Snerk* Ear canal liposuction….///

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wrenchwench  Jan 16, 2018 • 3:52:00pm

re: #253 Charles Johnson

Unfortunately, only the good die young.

My mean gramma made it to 99.

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plansbandc  Jan 16, 2018 • 3:52:07pm

re: #157 jaunte

What can we believe you ask? Not one fucking thing.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 16, 2018 • 3:52:38pm

Well in our possibly-healthy-possibly-unhealthy household I am going to attempt cooking bacon in the oven to go in the broccoli salad for tonight.

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BlueSpotinAL  Jan 16, 2018 • 3:53:04pm

So if Trump may have just stated a weight and height, what about other parts of the physical exam they give to men 50+ years old?

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Targetpractice  Jan 16, 2018 • 3:53:18pm

So apparently Trump is such a magical being that he grew a full inch and despite looking like he’s smuggling a ham under his suit is just slim enough to come 1lb under being medically diagnosed as “obese.” And he pops medication for cholesterol “like we all do from time to time” and has so much more stamina than those around him that he had to use a golf cart to cover a short distance and is scaling back his work schedule.

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BlueSpotinAL  Jan 16, 2018 • 3:53:51pm

re: #255 wrenchwench

My mean gramma made it to 99.

Some people keep living just out of spite.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 16, 2018 • 3:53:58pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 16, 2018 • 3:54:53pm

re: #235 Charles Johnson

Well he sure is ambitious. Maybe 68 when he *ahem* allegedly arranged to see Stormy Daniels. That was something of a health test right there. Healthy enough to climb 3 flights of stairs may or may not be healthy enough to have at a porn star 3 times.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 3:59:01pm

re: #257 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Well in our possibly-healthy-possibly-unhealthy household I am going to attempt cooking bacon in the oven to go in the broccoli salad for tonight.

I made some roasted Brussels sprouts and bacon with a maple glaze last week.
YUM!

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Renaissance_Man  Jan 16, 2018 • 3:59:23pm

re: #253 Charles Johnson

Unfortunately, only the good die young.

This is so true. The way you know if someone is going to do badly in hospital is if they come in totally healthy and are nice people. It never goes well for those guys.

Conversely, the walking medical disasters who are abusive pieces of shit and who eat nothing but junk and stink of the various bodily excreta that ooze from their every pore survive everything. Those scumbags never die.

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VegasGolfer  Jan 16, 2018 • 3:59:28pm

re: #235 Charles Johnson

If you believe the numbers.

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ipsos  Jan 16, 2018 • 4:00:32pm

re: #263 Backwoods_Sleuth

I made some roasted Brussels sprouts and bacon with a maple glaze last week.
YUM!

My 10 year old is sitting here all excited about his plate of steamed broccoli for dinner.

I do believe he’s healthier than our president*.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 16, 2018 • 4:00:55pm

re: #263 Backwoods_Sleuth

I made some roasted Brussels sprouts and bacon with a maple glaze last week.
YUM!

I have pottery class tonight so I am throwing the broccoli salad together before that and then will make the favorite olive sandwiches afterwards.

Tomorrow is a chorizo, butternut squash, Brussels sprouts, and chickpea salad though. That is yuuuuuuuuuuuuuuum.

Also I get to be a fucking hermit tomorrow and I can’t wait. /grouchyintrovert

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2018 • 4:03:29pm

re: #261 Stanley Sea

[Embedded content]

Ha that’s rich given the stuff that FNC does push as stories.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 16, 2018 • 4:04:17pm

Oh man a cinematic worthy super 8mm film camera with enough video features to run like a DSLR. Enormous artistic potential here. Paged.

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calochortus  Jan 16, 2018 • 4:04:39pm

re: #267 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I have pottery class tonight so I am throwing the broccoli salad together before that and then will make the favorite olive sandwiches afterwards.

Tomorrow is a chorizo, butternut squash, Brussels sprouts, and chickpea salad though. That is yuuuuuuuuuuuuuuum.

Also I get to be a fucking hermit tomorrow and I can’t wait. /grouchyintrovert

Have you been practicing with your drop spindle?

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Amory Blaine  Jan 16, 2018 • 4:04:53pm

Ambien tweets.

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ObserverArt  Jan 16, 2018 • 4:05:29pm

re: #264 Renaissance_Man

This is so true. The way you know if someone is going to do badly in hospital is if they come in totally healthy and are nice people. It never goes well for those guys.

Conversely, the walking medical disasters who are abusive pieces of shit and who eat nothing but junk and stink of the various bodily excreta that ooze from their every pore survive everything. Those scumbags never die.

It’s all the preservatives.

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ObserverArt  Jan 16, 2018 • 4:09:04pm

re: #269 Unshaken Defiance

Oh man a cinematic worthy super 8mm film camera with enough video features to run like a DSLR. Enormous artistic potential here. Paged.

Borked linky. Error page.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 16, 2018 • 4:09:15pm

re: #271 Amory Blaine

Ambien tweets.

in Norse code. That’s our Prez.

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whitebeach  Jan 16, 2018 • 4:12:18pm

re: #258 BlueSpotinAL

So if Trump may have just stated a weight and height, what about other parts of the physical exam they give to men 50+ years old?

Only cursory visual inspection is needed, as the subject is all sh*thole.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 16, 2018 • 4:14:59pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 16, 2018 • 4:16:35pm

re: #241 whitebeach

The average height loss for human beings is roughly half an inch per decade after age 40, with somewhat accelerating loss after 70. So if Trump was ever 6’3” he should be about 6’1-and-a-half”. I’m with . A nurse probably asked Trump about his height and he exaggerated, and the nurse just wrote it down because why argue?

I am about the same height now at 70 as at age 40. Averages can be very deceptive. It would not be surprising if the height/weight were numbers reported by Trump instead of real measurements by a nurse.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 4:18:09pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 16, 2018 • 4:19:14pm
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retired cynic  Jan 16, 2018 • 4:20:55pm

Charlie Pierce on the good doctor’s pronouncements:

esquire.com

Jackson spoke for over 50 minutes. The problem is that a lot of what he said doesn’t make sense. For example, I don’t believe that the president* weighs 239 pounds, or that his resting heart rate is 68. I don’t care whether he’s got a platinum genome or not. The man looks like a UPS truck on the golf course. But Jackson is completely legit. This is incomparably strange and, for the nonce, I’m going to believe my lying eyes.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 4:24:04pm

re: #279 Charles Johnson

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that is just too adorable!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 4:26:15pm

he’s still a moron:

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2018 • 4:27:29pm

re: #282 Backwoods_Sleuth

he’s still a moron:

[Embedded content]

An idiot supported by bigger idiots.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 16, 2018 • 4:29:32pm

re: #270 calochortus

Have you been practicing with your drop spindle?

I’ll add it to my to do list.

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calochortus  Jan 16, 2018 • 4:30:33pm

re: #284 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I’ll add it to my to do list.

Just wanted you to know I haven’t forgotten. You never know when I’ll show up at your door to check on that. If you want another lesson, let me know.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 16, 2018 • 4:30:52pm

When my husband passed away, I took Ambien a few times without incident. The manufacturer then changed the formulation and the first time under the new brand, I had vivid nightmares (about North Korea for some reason — it was during the reign of the previous Kim), awakened after about an hour, and never took it again.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 4:31:27pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 4:32:45pm
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Stanley Sea  Jan 16, 2018 • 4:34:20pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 4:36:01pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 4:36:43pm
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Stanley Sea  Jan 16, 2018 • 4:37:05pm

re: #289 Stanley Sea

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I’m wondering if the # includes those at GITMO.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 16, 2018 • 4:39:18pm
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prairiefire  Jan 16, 2018 • 4:42:59pm

re: #291 Backwoods_Sleuth

Hey, hey, ho, ho, that mofo has got to go!

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Charles Johnson  Jan 16, 2018 • 4:44:36pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 4:44:43pm

re: #293 Ace Rothstein

[Embedded content]

hahahahaaa!

No, I do not believe he would even have understood the instructions, much less answer the questions correctly.

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whitebeach  Jan 16, 2018 • 4:44:48pm

re: #289 Stanley Sea

Isn’t it pretty certain that virtually anyone convicted in the United States of “international terrorism” did not come from the United States? These clowns.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 4:48:36pm
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FormerDirtDart  Jan 16, 2018 • 4:52:24pm
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Stanley Sea  Jan 16, 2018 • 4:52:58pm

re: #291 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

That this is lost in the fray pisses me off. Hopefully not locally.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 4:54:12pm

re: #299 FormerDirtDart

[Embedded content]

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jaunte  Jan 16, 2018 • 4:54:52pm

It’s strange to watch Chris Matthews discovering Trump is a fascist, 20 months late.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 16, 2018 • 4:55:13pm

re: #299 FormerDirtDart

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The account is sending DM’s to the yam

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 4:58:34pm
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Ace Rothstein  Jan 16, 2018 • 4:59:09pm

Over two hours later and those Bolling tweets are still on his feed.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 4:59:23pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 5:00:31pm

oh my…

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freetoken  Jan 16, 2018 • 5:03:56pm

re: #304 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump’s War on America continues on all fronts.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 16, 2018 • 5:04:26pm

re: #307 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh my…

[Embedded content]

Keith Schiller - knows all

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Stanley Sea  Jan 16, 2018 • 5:05:42pm

re: #309 Stanley Sea

Keith Schiller - knows all

Wonder what his payoff was.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 16, 2018 • 5:09:42pm
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stpaulbear  Jan 16, 2018 • 5:10:09pm

I use ambien on a fairly regular basis along with some anti-anxiety and anti-depressant meds. I actually find it really helpful. It lets me sleep well all night. The one thing about Ambien is that you don’t want to stay up too long after you’ve taken it or you find yourself deciding to reorganizing your record collection at 1:00 in the morning. I’ve had mornings where I wondered how something ended up where it is, but whatever it is, it happened before I climbed into bed. I know better than to EVER drive after taking the stuff.

I took Prozac for one week and I’m lucky that no one died while I was on that stuff. I wouldn’t realize I’d run a red light until I was half a block away.

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Skip Intro  Jan 16, 2018 • 5:13:23pm

re: #303 Stanley Sea

The account is sending DM’s to the yam

[Embedded content]

If they get the Fox and Friends account head to the bomb shelters.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 16, 2018 • 5:15:05pm
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stpaulbear  Jan 16, 2018 • 5:18:31pm

re: #298 Backwoods_Sleuth

Tim Kaine

@timkaine
Every day brings new distractions and controversies, but it should shock all our consciences that HALF of Puerto Rico remains without electricity, four months later. These Americans need additional disaster relief, and it’s way past time to get it done.

If the power grid were to go down that long in the 48 states, people would be eating each other within one month.

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jaunte  Jan 16, 2018 • 5:19:34pm

Matt Gaetz is like the spokesperson for backpfeifengesicht syndrome.

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jaunte  Jan 16, 2018 • 5:20:04pm
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jaunte  Jan 16, 2018 • 5:21:29pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2018 • 5:25:54pm

re: #318 jaunte

[Embedded content]

EB is right on about Kelly. He ain’t innocent. Too many were blinded by the General. He’s more Edwin Walker than George Marshall.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 16, 2018 • 5:26:47pm

re: #318 jaunte

WIthout exception.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 16, 2018 • 5:31:00pm

re: #235 Charles Johnson

Unfortunately, Trump is pretty healthy for a 71-year old asshole.

Yeah, not having to worry about money and having people to attend your every need tends to make things pretty easy on you even if you don’t have the best lifestyle habits.

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dangerman  Jan 16, 2018 • 5:32:41pm

re: #318 jaunte

More people need to shed light on John Kelly’s bigotry. He’s not some innocent bystander, he’s a willful accomplice in Trump’s race hatred

bystander? kelly might in fact be the puppetmaster

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petesh  Jan 16, 2018 • 5:33:38pm

re: #322 dangerman

bystander? kelly might in fact be the puppetmaster

Not a puppet! You’re a puppet, poppet!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 16, 2018 • 5:33:54pm

re: #304 Backwoods_Sleuth

Gah. They’re dismantling this country piece by piece.

I FUCKING HATE DONALD TRUMP.

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petesh  Jan 16, 2018 • 5:35:15pm

re: #324 Eclectic Cyborg

Gah. They’re dismantling this country piece by piece.

I FUCKING HATE DONALD TRUMP.

I say, could you fucking tone it down a bit? NOOOOOO!

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Jack Burton  Jan 16, 2018 • 5:38:08pm

re: #321 Eclectic Cyborg

Yeah, not having to worry about money and having people to attend your every need tends to make things pretty easy on you even if you don’t have the best lifestyle habits.

I’m of the opinion that stress might be the absolute worst thing for people’s health; even worse that obesity, alcohol use, and smoking.

That said, a medical professional, I am not.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 16, 2018 • 5:41:06pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 16, 2018 • 5:47:01pm

re: #269 Unshaken Defiance

Oh man a cinematic worthy super 8mm film camera with enough video features to run like a DSLR. Enormous artistic potential here. Paged.

Oops blew the link

Kodak’s New Super 8 Camera at CES 2016!

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2018 • 5:49:40pm

re: #322 dangerman

bystander? kelly might in fact be the puppetmaster

Given how he treated Rep Wilson and lied about her, yep.

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Kragar  Jan 16, 2018 • 5:50:34pm
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Jack Burton  Jan 16, 2018 • 5:52:49pm

re: #330 Kragar

You misspelled “Novaya Kaliforniya”

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Interesting Times  Jan 16, 2018 • 5:55:41pm

re: #321 Eclectic Cyborg

Yeah, not having to worry about money and having people to attend your every need tends to make things pretty easy on you even if you don’t have the best lifestyle habits.

Psychopathy also seems to be a life-preserver, since no conscience = no stress (see Pinochet who lived to his 90s, Mugabe who’s around the same age and still hasn’t croaked, ancient Nazi war criminals, etc)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 16, 2018 • 5:56:36pm

re: #332 Interesting Times

Psychopathy also seems to be a life-preserver, since no conscience = no stress (see Pinochet who lived to his 90s, Mugabe who’s around the same age and still hasn’t croaked, ancient Nazi war criminals, etc)

Fidel Castro too.

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Brian J.  Jan 16, 2018 • 5:59:26pm

re: #330 Kragar

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The thing is, New California wouldn’t be a Republican state; Hillary Clinton carried it by more than 640,000 votes. Honestly, Democrats need to start sponsoring these kinds of measures to increase Californians’ clout in the Senate.

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fern01  Jan 16, 2018 • 6:00:15pm

re: #41 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC!!!

[Embedded content]

I really REALLY despise my Commonwealth’s governor (and, no, I did not vote for him).

It seems unbelievable that people who so hate their fellow man keep getting elected into positions of power.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 16, 2018 • 6:00:31pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2018 • 6:03:21pm

re: #335 fern01

It seems unbelievable that people who so hate their fellow man keep getting elected into positions of power.

I can believe it. Greed and resentment are the twins that drive conservative politics.

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jaunte  Jan 16, 2018 • 6:04:27pm

re: #321 Eclectic Cyborg

Yeah, not having to worry about money and having people to attend your every need tends to make things pretty easy on you even if you don’t have the best lifestyle habits.

George III lived to be 89, and he wasn’t in great shape either.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 16, 2018 • 6:04:54pm
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teleskiguy  Jan 16, 2018 • 6:08:33pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 16, 2018 • 6:09:44pm

re: #340 teleskiguy

[Embedded content]

Just from that screenshot, if he’s 6’ 2”, he’s got to be every bit of 300 lbs. No fucking way he’s 239 unless my body is a serious outlier.

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fern01  Jan 16, 2018 • 6:10:02pm

re: #83 Backwoods_Sleuth

The majority of folks over 70 do not have BP 122/70 without taking meds for same. Maybe the report did not include medications? Finding this so hard to believe

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stpaulbear  Jan 16, 2018 • 6:10:53pm

re: #341 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Just from that screenshot, if he’s 6’ 2”, he’s got to be every bit of 300 lbs. No fucking way he’s 239 unless my body is a serious outlier.

He’s hollow inside.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 16, 2018 • 6:11:42pm

re: #343 stpaulbear

He’s hollow inside.

Well, we definitely know his head is empty, at least.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 16, 2018 • 6:12:04pm

re: #341 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Here’s the original. He’s still at least 300. Easily.

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Skip Intro  Jan 16, 2018 • 6:12:32pm

re: #343 stpaulbear

He’s hollow inside.

Or maybe having a soul adds 100 pounds.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 16, 2018 • 6:12:55pm

re: #341 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Just from that screenshot, if he’s 6’ 2”, he’s got to be every bit of 300 lbs. No fucking way he’s 239 unless my body is a serious outlier.

shopped

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William Lewis  Jan 16, 2018 • 6:13:40pm

re: #328 Unshaken Defiance

Oops blew the link

[Embedded content]

Neat. Liked the page too, though for different reasons than you probably :D

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 16, 2018 • 6:13:48pm

re: #347 Stanley Sea

shopped

Per the following original: re: #345 GlutenFreeJesus, I still think he’s got to be 300, but I’d pin it pretty close to that.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 16, 2018 • 6:14:38pm

Not shopped. Heh

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teleskiguy  Jan 16, 2018 • 6:14:50pm

re: #341 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The photo was shopped.

efuseakay posted the original, I see. From that photo, I’d venture he’s easily a deuce and a half.

Like jaunte said, we are all girthers now.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 16, 2018 • 6:15:57pm

re: #351 teleskiguy

The photo was shopped.

efuseakay posted the original, I see. From that photo, I’d venture he’s easily a deuce and a half.

Like jaunte said, we are all girthers now.

Yeah. He’s definitely bigger than me by some substantial amount. Again, perhaps it’s just that he has no grey matter between his ears.

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teleskiguy  Jan 16, 2018 • 6:16:47pm

FTR, I’m 5’ 9” 163 lbs.

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ObserverArt  Jan 16, 2018 • 6:17:47pm

re: #340 teleskiguy

[Embedded content]

In that image Trump has a 100lb gut and a 100lb butt and those two alone take him to 200lbs. add his fat head and we are well over 250!

Edit to add: I don’t care if it shopped. He’s still fat, he acts fat, he thinks fat and he is a fat asshole.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 16, 2018 • 6:20:25pm

re: #340 teleskiguy

170 kilos = 374 lbs

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prairiefire  Jan 16, 2018 • 6:22:04pm

Hope deb and wifey are ok!

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teleskiguy  Jan 16, 2018 • 6:23:58pm

re: #355 Eclectic Cyborg

It’s funny, like Norm Macdonald playing Burt Reynolds on Celebrity Jeopardy.

It’s a big hat. It’s funny.
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fern01  Jan 16, 2018 • 6:39:58pm

re: #261 Stanley Sea

[Embedded content]

Also from the people who brought you “Where was President Obama born?”

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plansbandc  Jan 16, 2018 • 6:57:49pm

Mr. and Mrs. plansbandc having spent some quality time as fat fucks, want to tell you that there is absolutely no way in fucking hell the orange bag is less than 270.

Trust us, we know. And we aren’t necessarily fat fucks now, just saying.

Low carb works. Peace. :D


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Traveller - ‘Nobody Makes It Out’ (Live at WFUV)wfuv.org • Follow @wfuv: ow.ly Traveller performs "Nobody Makes It Out" live in Studio A. Recorded 5.9.18. Host: Alisa AliAudio: Caroline InzucchiCameras: Kristal Ho, Brian Gallagher & Kaylee KurkierewiczEditors: Kaylee Kurkierewicz & Brian Gallagher
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Fantastic Negrito - the Duffler (Official Video) ‘The Duffler’ is taken from Fantastic Negrito's brand new album 'Please Don't Be Dead' out now. Order your copy here: fn.lnk.to Director: Freddy Macdonald Producer: Fred MacdonaldCinematographer: Sebastian KlingerEditor: Freddy MacdonaldProduction Company: Macdonald Entertainment Partners Check here for Fantastic ...
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Facebook’s Screening for Political Ads Nabs News Sites… One ad couldn’t have been more obviously political. Targeted to people aged 18 and older, it urged them to “vote YES” on June 5 on a ballot proposition to issue bonds for schools in a district near San Francisco. ...
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Stanford Prison Experiment: Why Famous Psychology Studies Are Now Being Torn Apart Sometimes pseudoscience makes it through to the text books, most often in the soft and social sciences. A new exposé based on previously unpublished recordings of Philip Zimbardo, the Stanford psychologist who ran the study, and interviews with his ...
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Goliath Season 2 - Official Trailer In Season 2 of Goliath, Billy McBride takes on a new case, and the fight spills into the streets of Los Angeles and alleys of Venice Beach.Goliath returns 6/15 on Prime Video. » Stream Goliath 6/15 on Prime Video: ...
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Wild Nothing - Letting Go "Letting Go" is the first single from Wild Nothing's forthcoming album, 'Indigo', out 08/31/2018 on Captured Tracks. Order here: wildnothing.lnk.to Follow Wild Nothing:wildnothingmusic.comwildnothingct.bandcamp.comfacebook.cominstagram.com@WildNothingopen.spotify.com Lyrics:It's getting hard for me to reframe all those shifting memoriesLike a music box that never ...
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Third Circuit Nominee Tries to Walk Back Past Comments, Writing Porter appeared before the Judiciary Committee Wednesday despite not receiving the approval of Sen. Bob Casey, D-Pa. Under the tradition known as the blue slip, the committee has in the past declined to schedule hearings for nominees who do ...
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