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The Major  Jan 18, 2018 • 6:00:52pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 18, 2018 • 6:02:46pm

From the previous thread:

re: #231 petesh

Lovely! With a mind like yours, surely you can score a highly-paid gig as a political consultant.

LOL. I can’t politically consult my way out of a wet paper bag.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 18, 2018 • 6:06:57pm

re: #2 Anymouse 🌹

From the previous thread:

LOL. I can’t politically consult my way out of a wet paper bag.

It’s simple: Tell them exactly what they want to hear. If they bomb, write a tell-all book about their incompetency. If they don’t, congratulations, you just got a promotion. Rinse and repeat.

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gocart mozart  Jan 18, 2018 • 6:08:40pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 18, 2018 • 6:10:24pm

re: #4 gocart mozart

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The First Horseman of the Derpocalypse.

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The Major  Jan 18, 2018 • 6:16:43pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 18, 2018 • 6:18:05pm

Mia Love and Tim Scott call him out but those other folks … what could be the difference here?

Samantha Bee has it exactly right. Quit with the euphemisms (“racially-charged”) and use the word that actually represents Mr. Trump’s position on the issues: racist.

I sometimes wonder if Pulitzer Prizes should be extended to comedians, since they actually do the investigative work that many news outlets don’t.

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Amory Blaine  Jan 18, 2018 • 6:20:48pm

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For four of the country’s largest hospital systems, enough is enough.

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The leading hospital system, Intermountain Healthcare, released a statement explaining:

The new company intends to be an FDA approved manufacturer and will either directly manufacture generic drugs or sub-contract manufacturing to reputable contract manufacturing organizations, providing patients an affordable alternative to products from generic drug companies whose capricious and unfair pricing practices are damaging the generic drug market and hurting consumers. The company will also seek to stabilize the supply of essential generic medications administered in hospitals, many of which have fallen into chronic shortage.

Standing with Intermountain Healthcare is Ascension, SSM Health, and Trinity Health. The US Department of Veterans Affairs is also collaborating with the group. Together, they represent more than 450 hospitals across the country.

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ObserverArt  Jan 18, 2018 • 6:23:54pm

re: #7 Anymouse 🌹

Mia Love and Tim Scott call him out but those other folks … what could be the difference here?

Samantha Bee has it exactly right. Quit with the euphemisms (“racially-charged”) and use the word that actually represents Mr. Trump’s position on the issues: racist.

I sometimes wonder if Pulitzer Prizes should be extended to comedians, since they actually do the investigative work that many news outlets don’t.

As she pointed out in her video, no investigative work needed. Trump has been publically known since the late 70s. Since he has run for president just about everything he says and does is racist. All you have to do is look, listen and deduct a bit and you come up with…the racist is a racist.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 18, 2018 • 6:23:55pm
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Skip Intro  Jan 18, 2018 • 6:25:55pm

re: #7 Anymouse 🌹

No, while Trump is certainly a racist he’s more than that. He’s a full blown white supremacist just like his senior aide and speech writer Stephen Miller.

Racist is used too much and has lost its power. Let’s start using the accurate term from now on.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 18, 2018 • 6:25:56pm

re: #8 Amory Blaine

Don’t worry, I’m sure Trumps FDA will kill this pretty quick.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 18, 2018 • 6:26:12pm

re: #9 ObserverArt

As she pointed out in her video, no investigative work needed. Trump has been publically known since the late 70s. Since he has run for president just about everything he says and does is racist. All you have to do is look, listen and deduct a bit and you come up with…the racist is a racist.

It’s amazing how our local media avoids that, along with FOX News Channel.

When you only have conservative-leaning sources for news, that sort of thing does not get reported.

I wish Tim Steyer would by our local newspaper.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 18, 2018 • 6:27:14pm

re: #11 Skip Intro

No, while Trump is certainly a racist he’s more than that. He’s a full blown white supremacist just like his senior aide and speech writer Stephen Miller.

Racist is used too much and has lost its power. Let’s start using the accurate term from now on.

I’m fine with “Nazi-curious.”

And deport Sebastian Gorka on an outstanding warrant in Hungary.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 18, 2018 • 6:32:10pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 18, 2018 • 6:33:20pm

So the Supreme Court has placed an order to block the redistricting of North Carolina. I have a bad feeling about this. Every judge who came through the Federalist Society is a racist; let’s hope that Kennedy will stand up for truth and justice.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2018 • 6:37:28pm

re: #15 Charles Johnson

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Advocates in favor of sexual harassment in the workplace? What in the name of fuck?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2018 • 6:38:35pm

re: #16 Hecuba’s daughter

So the Supreme Court has placed an order to block the redistricting of North Carolina. I have a bad feeling about this. Every judge who came through the Federalist Society is a racist; let’s hope that Kennedy will stand up for truth and justice.

Makes me all the more furious at how the Garland appointment was stolen.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 18, 2018 • 6:38:51pm
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ObserverArt  Jan 18, 2018 • 6:39:22pm

re: #17 HappyWarrior

Advocates in favor of sexual harassment in the workplace? What in the name of fuck?

He’s mocking the thinking of the Times editorial board.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2018 • 6:40:06pm

re: #20 ObserverArt

He’s mocking the thinking of the Times editorial board.

Ohhhh okay.

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Old Liberal  Jan 18, 2018 • 6:41:08pm

re: #16 Hecuba’s daughter

So the Supreme Court has placed an order to block the redistricting of North Carolina. I have a bad feeling about this. Every judge who came through the Federalist Society is a racist; let’s hope that Kennedy will stand up for truth and justice.

The best hope is that the NC case will be decided by the Wisconsin and Maryland cases which the Supreme Court has accepted and heard oral arguments. I think that seems likely that they didn’t need a third case mucking up the works. It might allow NC to delay redistricting until after 2018 which is bad, the appellate court ordered a change this month.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 18, 2018 • 6:42:45pm

re: #20 ObserverArt

He’s mocking the thinking of the Times editorial board.

That’s good. I had a hot reply in flight involving heads, asses, Magical Balance Fairy, and there may have been a Red Foreman reference coming by the time I finished.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 18, 2018 • 6:42:51pm

So Manchan is voting yes on this. Gaaaa… won’t make a difference but..

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ObserverArt  Jan 18, 2018 • 6:43:24pm

re: #21 HappyWarrior

Ohhhh okay.

It is tough to tell sometimes. Such a fine line between absurdity and reality these days.

Alternative facts…fake news…believe me…don’t believe them.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 18, 2018 • 6:44:25pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2018 • 6:44:32pm

re: #25 ObserverArt

It is tough to tell sometimes. Such a fine line between absurdity and reality these days.

Alternative facts…fake news…believe me…don’t believe them.

Yeah gotcha. I mean it’s yeah an absurd new reality l.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2018 • 6:45:35pm

re: #24 Dave In Austin

So Manchan is voting yes on this. Gaaaa… won’t make a difference but..

Not surprised. Would prefer a united front but Manchin’s been better then I thought he’d be.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 18, 2018 • 6:46:18pm
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Stephen T.  Jan 18, 2018 • 6:52:32pm

So, this news story hit my news feed.

All those videos not quite calling for armed response against liberals now have an explaination

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 18, 2018 • 6:53:22pm

As horrifying as this story is, there are blithering idiots in the comments who, get this, BLAME THE CLINTONS.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2018 • 6:53:57pm

re: #30 Stephen T.

So, this news story hit my news feed.

All those videos not quite calling for armed response against liberals now have an explaination

If true, I’d love to see LaPierre sweat bullets

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Kragar  Jan 18, 2018 • 6:54:28pm
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Kragar  Jan 18, 2018 • 6:54:58pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2018 • 6:55:12pm

re: #31 The Vicious Babushka

As horrifying as this story is, there are blithering idiots in the comments who, get this, BLAME THE CLINTONS.

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How the hell do they figure that? I mean damn I despise Trump but that’s the last thing I’d think of here. Truly awful story. Poor kids.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 18, 2018 • 6:55:40pm
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Skip Intro  Jan 18, 2018 • 6:56:05pm

re: #31 The Vicious Babushka

This is why California has to do extreme vetting of all Texans who want to move here.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2018 • 6:56:45pm

re: #34 Kragar

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This incredibly irresponsible and sick.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 18, 2018 • 6:57:09pm

re: #33 Kragar

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FOX NEWS HQ, Late Friday Afternoon:

[Knock at HANNITY’S dressing room door.]

HANNITY: Enter!

[MESSENGER enters. He places an envelope in HANNITY’S hand. HANNITY looks up, confused.]

HANNITY: What is this?
MESSENGER: You have been served. Have a nice day.

[MESSENGER exits. HANNITY, shaking slightly, tears open the envelope and begins reading aloud.]

MUELLER [Voiceover]: “Dear Mr. Hannity: Thanks for the laughs from your show. There’s only one reason you could possibly want my investigation shut down. I’m going to find out why… and you’re going to tell me. Merry belated Christmas, jackass.”

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2018 • 6:57:55pm

re: #33 Kragar

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Sorry Sean, Mueller’s dealt with the Gambinos. He’s not going to bow to threats from Trump’s biggest suck up.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 18, 2018 • 6:58:01pm

re: #35 HappyWarrior

How the hell do they figure that? I mean damn I despise Trump but that’s the last thing I’d think of here. Truly awful story. Poor kids.

Simple. California -> Ebil Libruls -> CLINTONS. I didn’t even have to get to six degrees.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2018 • 6:58:57pm

re: #41 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Simple. California -> Ebil Libruls -> CLINTONS. I didn’t even have to get to six degrees.

Ah. Of course.

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Skip Intro  Jan 18, 2018 • 6:59:50pm

re: #41 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Simple. California -> Ebil Libruls -> CLINTONS. I didn’t even have to get to six degrees.

Except these are home schoolin’, bible banging Christians.

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TedStriker  Jan 18, 2018 • 7:00:00pm

re: #23 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

That’s good. I had a hot reply in flight involving heads, asses, Magical Balance Fairy, and there may have been a Red Foreman reference coming by the time I finished.

Any time is a good time for Red:

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 18, 2018 • 7:00:25pm

re: #43 Skip Intro

Except these are home schoolin’, bible banging Christians.

They are conveniently ignoring that fact. Fake News, don’t ya know.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2018 • 7:01:39pm

re: #43 Skip Intro

Except these are home schoolin’, bible banging Christians.

FNC viewer logic tho.

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teleskiguy  Jan 18, 2018 • 7:02:16pm

Is the skiing better in the Sahara Desert? Sierra looks like she’s having fun.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 18, 2018 • 7:03:30pm

JFC on a barbed wire tightrope over Mt. Doom, juggling hand grenades.
Somebody tell Tucker that the 2 largest employers in the US are Walmart and McDonald’s.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 18, 2018 • 7:05:49pm

re: #48 The Vicious Babushka

JFC on a barbed wire tightrope over Mt. Doom, juggling hand grenades.
Somebody tell Tucker that the 2 largest employers in the US are Walmart and McDonald’s.

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BUTBUTBUT THERE ARE MILLIONS OF HARD-WORKING MURIKANS WHO NEED JERBS!!!!

So of course, the wingnut multitudes will keep on sticking their heads up their asses, until they wind up kissing Reality’s foot when it shoves its way up in there.

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The Major  Jan 18, 2018 • 7:06:09pm

re: #15 Charles Johnson

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 18, 2018 • 7:06:24pm

re: #1 The Major

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2018 • 7:07:32pm

Mark Steyn, a name I remember getting praised here in the not so distant past was on Tucker and defended white supremacists as st least being US citizens. First off wtf, second dude you’re fucking Canadian.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2018 • 7:08:55pm

re: #51 Joe Bacon 🌹

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Shit Anthony Weiner even. I have no problem with forgiveness. I don’t care about Stormy and Trump. That he paid her off to prevent her from talking about them tho.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2018 • 7:09:43pm

re: #48 The Vicious Babushka

JFC on a barbed wire tightrope over Mt. Doom, juggling hand grenades.
Somebody tell Tucker that the 2 largest employers in the US are Walmart and McDonald’s.

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Tucker is an out of touch elitist dimwit.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2018 • 7:11:51pm

Tucker is under the impression that immigrants are all the same in their educational backgrounds. Shit you’d think he know better given who owns FNC but Rupert is white.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 18, 2018 • 7:13:59pm

re: #43 Skip Intro

Except these are home schoolin’, bible banging Christians.

Who renewed their wedding vows 3 times in 5 years with Elvis in Las Vegas.

Dude was an engineer with Northrop Grumman

Evil & weird walks amongst us.

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scottslemmons  Jan 18, 2018 • 7:19:25pm

re: #39 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

FOX NEWS HQ, Late Friday Afternoon:

[Knock at HANNITY’S dressing room door.]

HANNITY: Enter!

[MESSENGER enters. He places an envelope in HANNITY’S hand. HANNITY looks up, confused.]

HANNITY: What is this?
MESSENGER: You have been served. Have a nice day.

[MESSENGER exits. HANNITY, shaking slightly, tears open the envelope and begins reading aloud.]

MUELLER [Voiceover]: “Dear Mr. Hannity: Thanks for the laughs from your show. There’s only one reason you could possibly want my investigation shut down. I’m going to find out why… and you’re going to tell me. Merry belated Christmas, jackass.”

Easiest prediction in the world is that there are emails from Hannity to the Russians offering to do anything he can to help them.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 18, 2018 • 7:20:12pm

re: #52 HappyWarrior

Mark Steyn, a name I remember getting praised here in the not so distant past was on Tucker and defended white supremacists as st least being US citizens. First off wtf, second dude you’re fucking Canadian.

It’s been 10 years since Mark Steyn was praised for anything at LGF, and there have been many posts since then criticizing him.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 18, 2018 • 7:20:20pm

re: #56 Stanley Sea

Who renewed their wedding vows 3 times in 5 years with Elvis in Las Vegas.

Dude was an engineer with Northrop Grumman

Evil & weird walks amongst us.

And they probably used Dobson’s books that direct parents to beat their children into total submission…

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 18, 2018 • 7:21:37pm

re: #57 scottslemmons

Easiest prediction in the world is that there are emails from Hannity to the Russians offering to do anything he can to help them.

From your lips to God’s ears. As if you read my mind.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 18, 2018 • 7:22:07pm

re: #59 Joe Bacon 🌹

And they probably used Dobson’s books that direct parents to beat their children into total submission…

I have two of those books in my nightstand, gathering dust. Sorry, fishfolk, I guess I didn’t turn out to be the parent you expected.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2018 • 7:22:30pm

re: #58 Charles Johnson

It’s been 10 years since Mark Steyn was praised for anything at LGF, and there have been many posts since then criticizing him.

Oh I got him messed up with another Mark. Thanks Charles. There was a Mark that DF loved to praise. Thought it was this tool.

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Jan 18, 2018 • 7:22:56pm

Apropos of nothing at all, just to brighten the world a little, I’d like to mention that our Prime Minister is pregnant.

stuff.co.nz

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2018 • 7:22:57pm

Sorry Charles. My mistake.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 18, 2018 • 7:23:33pm

re: #63 Grunthos the Flatulent

Apropos of nothing at all, just to brighten the world a little, I’d just like to mention that our Prime Minister is pregnant.

stuff.co.nz

Congratulations to her and all, I’m just jealous that you have a lady Prime Minister. I would much rather have a lady President right now.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2018 • 7:23:58pm

re: #63 Grunthos the Flatulent

Apropos of nothing at all, just to brighten the world a little, I’d just like to mention that our Prime Minister is pregnant.

stuff.co.nz

Congrats to New Zealand.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 18, 2018 • 7:26:24pm

Sorry, I was off writing my state senator. What’d I miss in the continuing Dumpster fire that is the present administration?

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scottslemmons  Jan 18, 2018 • 7:27:32pm

re: #60 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

From your lips to God’s ears. As if you read my mind.

What I’m hoping from this whole thing is that it sends as many Republican politicians, strategists, and pundits to prison. I don’t think the conspiracy stopped with Trump and his campaign. It was all over the GOP map. You could probably find Russia contacts with every Republican Congressman, their staffs, a lot of Republican-leaning media types, and maybe even state level politicians. I don’t think it’ll actually be possible to do this kind of house-cleaning, but it’s probably one of the few ways we have to save the country.

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meteor  Jan 18, 2018 • 7:28:05pm
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Skip Intro  Jan 18, 2018 • 7:28:56pm

re: #56 Stanley Sea

Who renewed their wedding vows 3 times in 5 years with Elvis in Las Vegas.

Dude was an engineer with Northrop Grumman

Evil & weird walks amongst us.

Really? Even with the Captain Kangaroo haircut?

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Charles Johnson  Jan 18, 2018 • 7:29:25pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 18, 2018 • 7:29:31pm

OK so with the Government shut down Trump is going to Mar-A-Lardo having a one year celebration, and he’s charging $100K for a couple to attend.

And for the bargain of $250K you get to have a picture taken with His Lardass.

I could hear Lawrence just seething as he reported this on MSNBC…

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The Major  Jan 18, 2018 • 7:31:01pm

re: #71 Charles Johnson

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Charles Johnson  Jan 18, 2018 • 7:34:14pm
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Stanley Sea  Jan 18, 2018 • 7:34:45pm

Seriously, if the Govt shut down occurs, he’s going to party at mar-a-fuckshow?

oooh wee.

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Skip Intro  Jan 18, 2018 • 7:35:46pm

re: #75 Stanley Sea

Seriously, if the Govt shut down occurs, he’s going to party at mar-a-fuckshow?

oooh wee.

Too bad the SS won’t be shut down.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2018 • 7:37:42pm

re: #74 Charles Johnson

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WTF. Sigh. This is why I can’t do religion.

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The Major  Jan 18, 2018 • 7:39:47pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 18, 2018 • 7:40:01pm

re: #74 Charles Johnson

As most atheists did, we never bought the line “the new Pope is more liberal and will shine much-needed light on the Catholic Church.”

The Pope’s job is to “defend the faith.” That means those bringing accusations of sexual assault against the Church be “lyin’ bitches.”

While the Church gets the most attention, Protestant churches in the USA are just as bad.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 18, 2018 • 7:41:09pm

Trumporrhoids are spamming this photo-op as “proof” that Donald Trump can’t possibly be a racist.


He bought himself a medal (probably did not pay for it) in order to get his pitcher took with Rosa Parks, Muhammed Ali and a homophobic white lady.
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 18, 2018 • 7:41:30pm

re: #80 Anymouse 🌹

As most atheists did, we never bought the line “the new Pope is more liberal and will shine much-needed light on the Catholic Church.”

The Pope’s job is to “defend the faith.” That means those bringing accusations of sexual assault against the Church be “lyin’ bitches.”

While the Church gets the most attention, Protestant churches in the USA are just as bad.

The thing is, most Catholics and religious observers assumed that Francis would be a bit different as a Jesuit and a Latin American. All that does is change his biases, it doesn’t eliminate them entirely.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 18, 2018 • 7:42:30pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2018 • 7:45:12pm

re: #83 Charles Johnson

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From a Canadian immigrant no less. Wtf is wrong with him?

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Kragar  Jan 18, 2018 • 7:46:01pm

re: #79 The Major

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2018 • 7:47:13pm

re: #82 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The thing is, most Catholics and religious observers assumed that Francis would be a bit different as a Jesuit and a Latin American. All that does is change his biases, it doesn’t eliminate them entirely.

Correct. Can’t help but to be disappointed even though I’ve never been a true practicing Catholic but it is the faith my parents were reared in and I’d be lying if I said some aspects of Catholic teachings don’t impact me.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 18, 2018 • 7:49:16pm

re: #86 HappyWarrior

Correct. Can’t help but to be disappointed even though I’ve never been a true practicing Catholic but it is the faith my parents were reared in and I’d be lying if I said some aspects of Catholic teachings don’t impact me.

Well, it’s just like me and Evangelical Protestantism. It’s a major part of my life - hell, you know I’m still active in a slightly less nutty branch of the church - but you know damn well how much I am disappointed and pissed off by some of the stupid shit the self-appointed evangelical mouthpieces say.

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Citizen K  Jan 18, 2018 • 7:51:33pm

re: #83 Charles Johnson

So what’s the excuse for treating non-white citizens like shit then?

Like, holy fuck. I’m never going to get past just how dehumanizing the language toward immigrants can be. They’re literally not people to most Fox talking heads and GOP voters.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2018 • 7:51:53pm

re: #87 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Well, it’s just like me and Evangelical Protestantism. It’s a major part of my life - hell, you know I’m still active in a slightly less nutty branch of the church - but you know damn well how much I am disappointed and pissed off by some of the stupid shit the self-appointed evangelical mouthpieces say.

Right. I mean I remain staunchly pro choice, lgbt, etc but I was baptized Catholic and the Catholic teachings imparted to my folks through theirs and in Dad’s case the Catholic school system definitely impact my philosophy. This is disappointing. I know Francis wasn’t going to change the church but the handling of the child abuse remains a profound disappointment especially as they continue to oppose lgbt parents as unfit.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2018 • 7:54:05pm

re: #88 Citizen K

So what’s the excuse for treating non-white citizens like shit then?

Like, holy fuck. I’m never going to get past just how dehumanizing the language toward immigrants can be. They’re literally not people to most Fox talking heads and GOP voters.

Easy. They don’t think non whites are worthy of protection under the law.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 18, 2018 • 7:54:19pm
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Stanley Sea  Jan 18, 2018 • 7:54:49pm

Just saw an Ark Encounter ad on HGTV.

WTF

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The Major  Jan 18, 2018 • 7:55:19pm

re: #85 re: #85 Kragar

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Skip Intro  Jan 18, 2018 • 7:56:12pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 18, 2018 • 7:57:37pm

re: #86 HappyWarrior

Correct. Can’t help but to be disappointed even though I’ve never been a true practicing Catholic but it is the faith my parents were reared in and I’d be lying if I said some aspects of Catholic teachings don’t impact me.

I still have a seething hatred for Bruce Ritter of Covenant House…

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Kragar  Jan 18, 2018 • 7:57:50pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 18, 2018 • 7:58:06pm

re: #86 HappyWarrior

re: #87 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Reading the stories of others who have escaped indoctrination by their various churches and those positions (gays are evil, &c) makes me glad I was never subjected to that which has no evidence.

It also informs me of just how hard it is to escape lifetime indoctrination and immersion by an entire culture that pushes the same. I didn’t have to worry about being thrown out of my home and cut off from my family if I announced I didn’t believe in something asserted without evidence (though all my Methodist cousins but one did).

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 18, 2018 • 7:59:03pm

re: #32 HappyWarrior

If true, I’d love to see LaPierre sweat bullets

Only if they are American made .223!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 18, 2018 • 7:59:57pm

re: #97 Anymouse 🌹

Reading the stories of others who have escaped indoctrination by their various churches and those positions (gays are evil, &c) makes me glad I was never subjected to that which has no evidence.

It also informs me of just how hard it is to escape lifetime indoctrination and immersion by an entire culture that pushes the same. I didn’t have to worry about being thrown out of my home and cut off from my family if I announced I didn’t believe in something asserted without evidence (though all my Methodist cousins but one did).

As I posted before the Religious Right infected all of my family and turned them into monsters that I cannot handle. The only way to cope with it was to get the hell out of Pennsylvania!

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2018 • 8:00:17pm

re: #94 Skip Intro

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Stay classy Jeanne.

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Skip Intro  Jan 18, 2018 • 8:00:39pm

They paid $100k for this.

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The Major  Jan 18, 2018 • 8:01:11pm

re: #96 Kragar

LOL - Office Space! Yer killing me!

(True story: When I was at Sears Credit as a Software QA specialist, my manager’s manager used to call the project list the “Total Project Summary” (TPS) - and he went as far as ordered as Red Swingline stapler….)

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 18, 2018 • 8:02:10pm

re: #101 Skip Intro

They paid $100k for this.

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Ferchrissakes, at $100k I could buy a whole goddamn restaurant and eat that whenever I wanted.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2018 • 8:02:42pm

re: #101 Skip Intro

They paid $100k for this.

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That looks pretty bland.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 18, 2018 • 8:03:06pm

re: #99 Joe Bacon 🌹

As I posted before the Religious Right infected all of my family and turned them into monsters that I cannot handle. The only way to cope with it was to get the hell out of Pennsylvania!

The United Methodist Church is not normally associated with “the religious right.” They nevertheless feel the same way as just about every other Christian church vis. atheists: We are to be shunned.

A lot is said about JWs and Seventh Day Adventists about shunning, but the reality is nearly every Christian church does it.

I am not welcome in any of my cousin’s homes but one because I am an atheist and no other reason.

It’s sad in a way that their religious faith is more important than their family (and they lost their damn minds when my sister was married), but that’s their problem.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 18, 2018 • 8:04:27pm

re: #101 Skip Intro

They paid $100k for this.

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And remember when you pay $250,000 You and Your Spouse get to take a picture with His Ass-Holeyness!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 18, 2018 • 8:05:47pm

re: #105 Anymouse 🌹

Raised Methodist here but somehow missed the “must shun atheists” bit. Weird, I guess.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 18, 2018 • 8:05:50pm

None of the Christian members of my family (the Methodists) will even acknowledge my sister’s loss last Saturday except one.

As Christopher Hitchens noted: Religion poisons everything.

Pope Francis is no different; he just has a better press corps.

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Kragar  Jan 18, 2018 • 8:05:50pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 18, 2018 • 8:06:51pm

re: #108 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Raised Methodist here but somehow missed the “must shun atheists” bit. Weird, I guess.

You won’t find it in the canon of the UMC. You find it in the actions of Methodists when they find they have a non-believer in their midst.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 18, 2018 • 8:07:53pm

re: #111 Anymouse 🌹

You won’t find it in the canon of the UMC. You find it in the actions of Methodists when they find they have a non-believer in their midst.

Just like any other cult. Once you leave you’re shunned.

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teleskiguy  Jan 18, 2018 • 8:08:04pm
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Interesting Times  Jan 18, 2018 • 8:08:13pm

Why yes, I do consider myself a proud member of the 76%…

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 18, 2018 • 8:09:21pm

re: #109 Anymouse 🌹

None of the Christian members of my family (the Methodists) will even acknowledge my sister’s loss last Saturday except one.

As Christopher Hitchens noted: Religion poisons everything.

Pope Francis is no different; he just has a better press corps.

You have Christian friends here who do.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 18, 2018 • 8:09:24pm

re: #112 Joe Bacon 🌹

Just like any other cult. Once you leave you’re shunned.

The local Mennonites here will still talk to me (and take my money of course) because they still think they have a shot at my conversion to their faith.

I expect that will eventually change.

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William Lewis  Jan 18, 2018 • 8:09:49pm

re: #86 HappyWarrior

Correct. Can’t help but to be disappointed even though I’ve never been a true practicing Catholic but it is the faith my parents were reared in and I’d be lying if I said some aspects of Catholic teachings don’t impact me.

Someone can be better than others and still have many weaknesses and blind spots. I’ve never said that he was perfect just a hell of a lot better than Bennie (heck, I don’t even hold that the Incarnation was “perfect” in that sense. See how he had to be taught by the Cananite woman for an example). He still upholds as dogma doctrines that I certainly don’t believe.

If I complain about puritopians getting in the way of some progress here, does that mean I should do just that in this realm too? Now I realize that those who hate religion will always believe that the only progress in to get rid of it but I don’t accept that. I’ll take what I can get to movie the world more forwards that backwards just as I do politically here.

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Skip Intro  Jan 18, 2018 • 8:12:03pm

re: #106 Joe Bacon 🌹

And remember when you pay $250,000 You and Your Spouse get to take a picture with His Ass-Holeyness!

Tonight only! Only $50k to have your picture taken in front of this cardboard cutout.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 18, 2018 • 8:12:56pm

re: #111 Anymouse 🌹

You won’t find it in the canon of the UMC. You find it in the actions of Methodists when they find they have a non-believer in their midst.

We know some very different Methodists.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2018 • 8:12:56pm

re: #117 William Lewis

Someone can be better than others and still have many weaknesses and blind spots. I’ve never said that he was perfect just a hell of a lot better than Bennie (heck, I don’t even hold that the Incarnation was “perfect” in that sense. See how he had to be taught by the Cananite woman for an example). He still upholds as dogma doctrines that I certainly don’t believe.

If I complain about puritopians getting in the way of some progress here, does that mean I should do just that in this realm too? Now I realize that those who hate religion will always believe that the only progress in to get rid of it but I don’t accept that. I’ll take what I can get to movie the world more forwards that backwards just as I do politically here.

Certainly. And even though I’m not religious. I agree very much with you. I just find myself disappointed in Francis here. Don’t read that as an attack on faith itself but disappointment in men.

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William Lewis  Jan 18, 2018 • 8:12:58pm

re: #105 Anymouse 🌹

The United Methodist Church is not normally associated with “the religious right.” They nevertheless feel the same way as just about every other Christian church vis. atheists: We are to be shunned.

A lot is said about JWs and Seventh Day Adventists about shunning, but the reality is nearly every Christian church does it.

I am not welcome in any of my cousin’s homes but one because I am an atheist and no other reason.

It’s sad in a way that their religious faith is more important than their family (and they lost their damn minds when my sister was married), but that’s their problem.

Come on down to your local Episcopalian church. Several of our bishops are openly atheists (see Jack Spong for example. ) and lots are good & queer folk as well.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2018 • 8:14:06pm

There’s good and bad in all faiths and lack of faith. Let me make that point here.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 18, 2018 • 8:14:28pm

re: #115 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

You have Christian friends here who do.

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I need to hit the rack. Try to preserve the Republic whilst I’m gone… .

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whitebeach  Jan 18, 2018 • 8:14:51pm

re: #108 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Raised Methodist here but somehow missed the “must shun atheists” bit. Weird, I guess.

I don’t know, I was raised Episcopalian, and we didn’t get that memo either. I have to say that, even though I left it long ago, the Episcopal church is about as close to a YMMV faith as I know of. No Catholic guilt, no Baptist hellfire, no evangelical end times. Also no bullshit about how the “wine” in the Bible was really grape juice. OTOH, listening to an Episcopal congregation try to sing hymns is like listening to a hundred gerbils rustling sawdust.

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William Lewis  Jan 18, 2018 • 8:16:22pm

re: #109 Anymouse 🌹

None of the Christian members of my family (the Methodists) will even acknowledge my sister’s loss last Saturday except one.

As Christopher Hitchens noted: Religion poisons everything.

Pope Francis is no different; he just has a better press corps.

Hitchens was too busy hating to notice he was as good a poisoner as any religious person. But considering it’s fundamentalism far more than religion per se that is doing the poisoning, perhaps that’s not especially surprising?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 18, 2018 • 8:16:50pm

re: #121 William Lewis

Come on down to your local Episcopalian church. Several of our bishops are openly atheists (see Jack Spong for example. ) and lots are good & queer folk as well.

I had to leave my home town of Ambridge PA when Right Wing Episcopals financed by Richard Mellon Scaife came to town. They openly worked to split the church pushing the Religious Right agenda. They were really obnoxious.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 18, 2018 • 8:20:25pm

re: #118 Skip Intro

PLEASE note that Alexandra Clough is doing the work. She’s a reporter with the Palm Beach Post. Not a sycophant

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HappyWarrior  Jan 18, 2018 • 8:20:51pm

Let it be remembered that MLK was an ordained minister. There’s a lot of legit gripes with religion to be had but religion like ideology is ruined not by Gods or non Gods but men and women. I choose not to believe but if religion guides people like William and other believing Lizards to do good, I can’t get in their way. I just wish and I know they do respect my agnosticism not as an attack on their faith but another perspective in understanding this world of ours.

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William Lewis  Jan 18, 2018 • 8:20:56pm

re: #124 whitebeach

I don’t know, I was raised Episcopalian, and we didn’t get that memo either. I have to say that, even though I left it long ago, the Episcopal church is about as close to a YMMV faith as I know of. No Catholic guilt, no Baptist hellfire, no evangelical end times. Also no bullshit about how the “wine” in the Bible was really grape juice. OTOH, listening to an Episcopal congregation try to sing hymns is like listening to a hundred gerbils rustling sawdust.

Some are better singers than others :) Grace in Madison WI has a good choir, an exquisite organ and a very talented organist. The music there is a revelation in and of itself. I loved it when they used a Haydn mass setting as the service music one week.

Now the little church I’m at now? Not that good at all but a bit better than gerbils :LOL:

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 18, 2018 • 8:22:38pm

re: #110 Kragar

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SUPPLIES!!!

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TedStriker  Jan 18, 2018 • 8:27:32pm

re: #76 Skip Intro

Too bad the SS won’t be shut down.

“Essential services”

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MsJ  Jan 18, 2018 • 9:28:05pm

re: #31 The Vicious Babushka

As horrifying as this story is, there are blithering idiots in the comments who, get this, BLAME THE CLINTONS.

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Not to make light of this awful story but that guys haircut is creepy as fuck.

I can’t imagine what will happen to those kids. I doubt they have any social skills or abilities. These parents deserve the harshest punishment possible.


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