The Bob Cesca Show: Diverticulitis

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show:

Diverticulitis: Not Safe For Work; David Ferguson from Rawstory and Kompromat is here; It’s the end of an era at Huff Post; The truth behind Trump’s Fake News Awards; Trump’s physical and Girtherism; Trump Fears Maddow; Mueller would keep working during a government shutdown; Stormy Daniels said Trump didn’t wear a condom; Russia funneled money through the NRA; FBI agents visit Bannon’s house; Mueller is investigating payments received by Kislyak and other Russians; and much more.

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458 comments

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Kragar  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:08:42am
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Ace-o-aces  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:12:21am
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Kragar  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:14:13am
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FormerDirtDart  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:14:22am

I could watch cross wind landings for hours

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Sir John Barron  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:14:31am

re: #2 Ace-o-aces

Who had a baby and who is this Mark Dice dude?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:14:36am

re: #1 Kragar

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Sometimes Graham gets it. Too bad he votes in agreement with both of them a lot of the time.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:15:42am

re: #3 Kragar

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You never gave a shit about CHIP,, Mitch. Stop using kids to justify deporting other kids, you pathetic old fuck.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:16:14am

re: #2 Ace-o-aces

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I don’t like Kanye either but that sounds pretty harsh.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:16:40am

Repost but I’ve been thinking about this a lot as I read about the rise of the Third Reich too. There’s a terrific book I just read earlier this winter called Winter about these two German brothers. One joins the NSDAP and the other becomes Anti-Nazi. You know that going in but you don’t know which brother goes which way until the middle of the novel.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:17:31am

What makes a man choose humanity over evil in a critical situation? What makes a man choose evil? My grandpa would tell me it’s money but there are certain things in this world that go beyond dollars and cents.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:18:14am

re: #2 Ace-o-aces

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Sir John Barron  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:19:40am

re: #11 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Seriously, what about Trump and his, um, professional lady friends?

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Targetpractice  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:20:20am

re: #3 Kragar

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The GOP’s had months to address CHIP, instead chose to waste time on trying to take healthcare away from millions and giving the rich another major cash infusion. We’re not buying that they suddenly give a damn about reauthorizing it.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:20:31am
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Weaselone  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:21:10am

re: #3 Kragar

Congratulations GOP, you’ve entered straight up comic villain territory. You’re the Joker and the Democrats are Batman.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:21:13am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:21:15am

re: #8 HappyWarrior

I don’t like Kanye either but that sounds pretty harsh.

It sounds literally insane, because he’s gone nuts from religious extremism.

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dangerman  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:21:20am

re: #3 Kragar

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Porque no Los dos Mitch?

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:21:25am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:22:06am

re: #17 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

It sounds literally insane, because he’s gone nuts from religious extremism.

I’m being dry. It’s completely nuts.

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Weaselone  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:22:07am

re: #14 FormerDirtDart

This is why she has her own TV show and I don’t.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:23:50am

re: #19 FormerDirtDart

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Yeah it’s the media and Hollywood’s fault and they should always paint a rosy image of the military. JFC. I’m sorry. I respect the military but Hollywood and the media should be under no obligation to follow what DOD wants to portray the military experience as.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:25:04am

re: #22 HappyWarrior

Yeah it’s the media and Hollywood’s fault and they should always paint a rosy image of the military. JFC. I’m sorry. I respect the military but Hollywood and the media should be under no obligation to follow what DOD wants to portray the military experience as.

Conservatives would like them to be propagandists. They have a very different view of American than we do.

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Belafon  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:25:15am

re: #19 FormerDirtDart

How many military TV shows are there? How many military movies have been made? Loads.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:25:23am
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Targetpractice  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:25:30am

re: #19 FormerDirtDart

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The DoD engages in recycling, tries to act like it’s the 70s again and can’t understand why nobody wants to join up to die thousands of miles away from home in a rich man’s war.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:25:55am

re: #1 Kragar

I had to google Steve King because I thought he wrote horror novels.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:26:22am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:26:37am

re: #27 Shropshire Slasher

I had to google Steve King because I thought he wrote horror novels.

That’s the good Steve King. Lindsay meant the one that wears white sheets whiter than King’s homestate of Maine.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:27:30am

re: #26 Targetpractice

The DoD engages in recycling, tries to act like it’s the 70s again and can’t understand why nobody wants to join up to die thousands of miles away from home in a rich man’s war.

I really worry about this generation of kids since there’s war hunger for Iran and North Korea.

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MsJ  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:28:26am

re: #4 FormerDirtDart

Holy hell man. Yikes.

I used to fly all over the world and at times I’m terrified of flying. Like digging my fingers into some strangers leg once terrified. Thankfully that wasn’t too often. But God, I’ve never been more embarrassed in my life.

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plansbandc  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:29:18am

I believe in so-called political correctness. Not because everyone is a delicate snowflake, but because as Maya Angelou put it, when we know better, we do better. When someone tells you that a term or phrase is more accurate/less hurtful than the one you’re using, you now know better. So why not do better? How does it hurt you to NOT hurt another person? Your refusal to adjust your vocabulary in the name of not being an asshole kind of makes YOU the snowflake.

Lori Gallagher Witt

(From her “An open letter to friends and family who are/were shocked to discover I’m a liberal…” post on FB)

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:29:28am

re: #27 Shropshire Slasher

I had to google Steve King because I thought he wrote horror novels.

re: #29 HappyWarrior

That’s the good Steve King. Lindsay meant the one that wears white sheets whiter than King’s homestate of Maine.

Plus, it’s Stephen King that writes horror novels

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Dr. Matt  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:30:16am

re: #19 FormerDirtDart

The DOD has become snowflakes under Trump. How maga!

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:30:19am

re: #33 FormerDirtDart

Plus, it’s Stephen King that writes horror novels

Yeah I know. I’ve never anyone refer to the writer as Steve King. I was just being coy.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:31:32am

If they don’t like what the media and Hollywood are doing, maybe it’s up to them to do a better job recruiting. Hollywood and the Media aren’t supposed to write DOD’s script for them. And honestly the administration loses any credibility to complain when they try to keep certain people from serving in the armed forces.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:33:57am
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Jay C  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:34:09am

re: #27 Shropshire Slasher

I had to google Steve King because I thought he wrote horror novels.

Stephen King is the one who writes horror-novels: Congressman Steve King is more like a character in one.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:34:52am

re: #38 Jay C

Stephen King is the one who writes horror-novels: Congressman Steve King is more like a character in one.

Steve King and Percy Whitmore.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:35:05am

re: #37 Barefoot Grin

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Owned.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:35:23am
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dangerman  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:36:04am

re: #36 HappyWarrior

If they don’t like what the media and Hollywood are doing, maybe it’s up to them to do a better job recruiting. Hollywood and the Media aren’t supposed to write DOD’s script for them. And honestly the administration loses any credibility to complain when they try to keep certain people from serving in the armed forces.

Anyone who complains “hollywood” isn’t doing a proper job can write and produce whatever they want. There are no restrictions. It not like it’s regulated.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:37:34am

re: #41 FormerDirtDart

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That’s a stupid point considering King is a Congressman for part of Iowa and Graham was elected to represent his entire state.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:38:15am

re: #42 dangerman

Anyone who complains “hollywood” isn’t doing a proper job can write and produce whatever they want. There are no restrictions. It not like it’s regulated.

Absolutely.

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ObserverArt  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:39:41am

re: #41 FormerDirtDart

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The type of response a reactionary ignoramus would make.

Hey “Cotton” Graham had to win an election to be a Senator just like you. He’s won several. I don’t like him, but I am thinking you may have a tough time winning two.

And how far would Steve King get in a Presidential run?

But thanks for showing us you are as stupid as Trump. That’s probably why you like him.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:40:16am

Steve King and Tom Cotton: Band of Blowhards.

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Old Liberal  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:40:36am

re: #38 Jay C

Stephen King is the one who writes horror-novels: Congressman Steve King is more like a character in one.

It’s going to be interesting to see how the western Iowa area represented by King fares if Drumpf tries to end NAFTA. A big bunch of their corn goes to Mexico in order to offset the things that Mexico is exporting to the U.S. I suspect they want that wall built and the trade deal upended right up until they see their corn price drop as their major market dries up. Then? Blame Obama? It would be good for Mexican farmers, though, their small farmers were wiped out in part by NAFTA.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:41:21am

re: #37 Barefoot Grin

Notice how eager the usual Russiabots are to distract from Russia and Trump.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:41:57am

re: #45 ObserverArt

The type of response a reactionary ignoramus would make.

Hey “Cotton” Graham had to win an election to be a Senator just like you. He’s won several. I don’t like him, but I am thinking you may have a tough time winning two.

And how far would Steve King get in a Presidential run?

But thanks for showing us you are as stupid as Trump. That’s probably why you like him.

I imagine King if he ever ran would fall apart. It’s one thing to be a racist but he’s one who wouldn’t be able to find Mercer’s to sugar daddy him. He’s basically Michelle Bachmann but dumber.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:42:28am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:43:42am

re: #47 Old Liberal

It’s going to be interesting to see how the western Iowa area represented by King fares if Drumpf tries to end NAFTA. A big bunch of their corn goes to Mexico in order to offset the things that Mexico is exporting to the U.S. I suspect they want that wall built and the trade deal upended right up until they see their corn price drop as their major market dries up. Then? Blame Obama? It would be good for Mexican farmers, though, their small farmers were wiped out in part by NAFTA.

They’ll blame Obama because King and Trump will. The only way King leaves that seat is if he dies, gets deemed not racist enough, or is stupid enough to think he can be something more.

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MsJ  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:43:48am

Someone posted this thread the other day and I finally read the whole thing. It’s philosophical and starts to get interesting (to me) here:

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ObserverArt  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:44:39am

re: #49 HappyWarrior

I imagine King if he ever ran would fall apart. It’s one thing to be a racist but he’s one who wouldn’t be able to find Mercer’s to sugar daddy him. He’s basically Michelle Bachmann but dumber.

Thanks for the reminder. A photoshop from the past.

Stop the Cantaloupes at the Rio Grande River NOW!!!
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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:44:53am

re: #38 Jay C

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:45:34am

re: #53 ObserverArt

Thanks for the reminder. A photoshop from the past.

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Ha. Nice work.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:46:32am

And no white smoke

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:46:44am

re: #48 Sir John Barron

Notice how eager the usual Russiabots are to distract from Russia and Trump.

I wonder what it will mean when Mueller makes it clear Trump’s long history of shady activity enabled by very wealthy unscrupulous and dangerous thugs? Will we just put an asterisk next to his presidency or will it actually endanger him…..

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ipsos  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:47:47am

re: #50 Stanley Sea

Did I mention lately that I am a huge Xavier Becerra fan, and fully expect to see him in the Oval Office down the road?

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ObserverArt  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:49:30am

re: #56 Stanley Sea

And no white smoke

Monica Alba

@albamonica
Only four people in the Oval Office meeting this afternoon, @PeterAlexander reports:

President Trump
Sen. Schumer
John Kelly
Schumer’s chief of staff

2:42 PM - Jan 19, 2018
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I bet Cotton, Nunes, Stephen Miller and some others are calling the Russians to see if they can cut in and catch what is being said in the Oval Office about now.

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danarchy  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:49:55am

re: #50 Stanley Sea

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Fining people for cooperating with law enforcement. Whether you agree with it or not, you have to admit this country has come to a pretty strange crossroads.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:51:51am

re: #60 danarchy

Fining people for cooperating with law enforcement. Whether you agree with it or not, you have to admit this country has come to a pretty strange crossroads.

Deportation Force.

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ObserverArt  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:52:55am

36°…It’s a heat wave!

Amazing how much warmer that makes you feel when you’ve been stuck in single and low teen temps for a few weeks.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:53:34am
Military special forces based in Florida and U.S. Customs and Border Protection special units spent three weeks trying to breach and scale the eight models in San Diego, using jackhammers, saws, torches and other tools and climbing devices, said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the information was not authorized for public release.

No word if they tried just going around.
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dfw.cbslocal.com

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dangerman  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:53:46am

re: #60 danarchy

Fining people for cooperating with law enforcement. Whether you agree with it or not, you have to admit this country has come to a pretty strange crossroads.

he’s focusing on privacy i think. from the article:

… if they voluntarily start giving up information about their employees or access to their employees in ways that contradict our new California laws, they subject themselves to actions by my office,” he said

He added that the state would issue “formal guidance” to employers regarding a law that went into effect on January 1, called the Immigrant Worker Protection Act, which California Gov. Jerry Brown signed in October last year. The law prohibits employers from voluntarily providing ICE with confidential information about their employees and requires them to ask ICE for a warrant prior to any inspection. It also requires employers to post notice of any immigration inspection 72 hours before it takes place, and prohibits them from “reverifying the employment eligibility of a current employee” unless compelled by law.

“voluntarily”
when there’s no warrant

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dangerman  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:54:40am

re: #63 Shropshire Slasher

No word if they tried just going around.
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scaled? just get a ladder

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Belafon  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:55:33am

re: #56 Stanley Sea

And no white smoke

Kelly’s there to make sure Trump doesn’t accept DACA.

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Belafon  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:56:28am

re: #60 danarchy

Fining people for cooperating with law enforcement. Whether you agree with it or not, you have to admit this country has come to a pretty strange crossroads.

They issue their own fake “warrants” that aren’t cleared by any court, not even FISA.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:57:28am

re: #65 dangerman

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CongoJack  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:57:56am

re: #63 Shropshire Slasher

re: #65 dangerman

Did no one think to bring a shovel and dig under wall.

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ObserverArt  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:58:54am

re: #67 Belafon

They issue their own fake “warrants” that aren’t cleared by any court, not even FISA.

Pretty soon people will be building hidden safe rooms in between walls for people to hide in when ICE comes calling.

So 1940 Germany it is unbelievable. But here we are.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:59:03am

I think most of these prototypes have rebar or such going down to prevent tunneling.

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Belafon  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:59:35am

re: #70 ObserverArt

Pretty soon people will be building hidden safe rooms in between walls for people to hide in when ICE comes calling.

So 1940 Germany it is unbelievable. But here we are.

I can’t wait for them to decide it’s worth storming churches.

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CongoJack  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:59:45am

re: #71 Colère Tueur de Lapin

how far though? to bed rock? where there is will and a shovel there is a way.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 19, 2018 • 12:00:06pm

True. No idea.

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Old Liberal  Jan 19, 2018 • 12:01:08pm

re: #60 danarchy

Fining people for cooperating with law enforcement. Whether you agree with it or not, you have to admit this country has come to a pretty strange crossroads.

If you read the article, California passed laws pertaining to employers providing information to ICE. I don’t know why they passed the law, but they did. They are saying that employers who BREAK that law will be prosecuted. Not for “cooperating” but for violating.

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Skip Intro  Jan 19, 2018 • 12:01:54pm

re: #56 Stanley Sea

Trump wants to be reimbursed for all of those $250k portraits of him the suckers were going to buy but is missing out because of some stupid government thing.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 19, 2018 • 12:02:31pm

re: #73 CongoJack

Steel sheeting is fairly inexpensive and quick to install with a vibratory hammer, especially in sand.

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Charmingly Persistent  Jan 19, 2018 • 12:02:45pm

Ooops, I got CL’ed:

re: #430 HappyWarrior

That’s a good point. I’m just struggling because it’s my oldest friend. Anyone else? I’d cut off years ago tbh.

I have a thought: You could explain that you find his views on immigration, race, and poverty so abhorrent that you need to keep politics out of your relationship to be able to stay friends. Unfriend him on Facebook or wherever else he posts these opinions. You guys can email or whatever as long as he doesn’t bring that stuff up.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 19, 2018 • 12:03:33pm

re: #50 Stanley Sea

California attorney general not screwing around, says he’ll prosecute employers who cooperate with federal immigration raids

what legal grounds would he have to do that?

not that I do not support him, just curious which legal tools he could apply

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Skip Intro  Jan 19, 2018 • 12:03:41pm

Finally one newspaper reports the truth about Trump’s physical.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 12:05:21pm

re: #78 Charmingly Persistent

Ooops, I got CL’ed:

I have a thought: You could explain that you find his views on immigration, race, and poverty so abhorrent that you need to keep politics out of your relationship to be able to stay friends. Unfriend him on Facebook or wherever else he posts these opinions. You guys can email or whatever as long as he doesn’t bring that stuff up.

I like that idea.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 12:05:48pm

re: #79 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

what legal grounds would he have to do that?

not that I do not support him, just curious which legal tools he could apply

California state privacy law.

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Mike Lamb  Jan 19, 2018 • 12:06:17pm

re: #37 Barefoot Grin

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It’s like the SMOTI thing really did turn into a contest. It’s a conga line of “Hold me beer” amongst right wing nut jobs in far right media.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 12:06:18pm

It’s going to be easy to twist but whatever he’s doing the right thing.

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Mike Lamb  Jan 19, 2018 • 12:07:32pm

re: #79 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

what legal grounds would he have to do that?

not that I do not support him, just curious which legal tools he could apply

I’m guessing civil rights laws. Because what’s the probable cause for the raid? You employ brown people?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 19, 2018 • 12:08:35pm

re: #78 Charmingly Persistent

Ooops, I got CL’ed:

I have a thought: You could explain that you find his views on immigration, race, and poverty so abhorrent that you need to keep politics out of your relationship to be able to stay friends. Unfriend him on Facebook or wherever else he posts these opinions. You guys can email or whatever as long as he doesn’t bring that stuff up.

I have a buddy like that. I just told him that our basic principles & viewpoints are so divergent and our differences so irresolvable that there can be no productive discussion of topics like immigration or terrorism.

We talk about history up to the mid-20th century…but anything after WW2 starts wandering off into dangerous ground, like Israel…

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 19, 2018 • 12:10:16pm
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FormerDirtDart  Jan 19, 2018 • 12:11:45pm
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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 19, 2018 • 12:12:33pm

re: #77 Shropshire Slasher

Turn your sound off:

ESF8 Vibratory Hammer driving steel sheet piles

I’ve seen miles of this put in. Driving piles is worse.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 19, 2018 • 12:15:01pm

re: #89 Shropshire Slasher

Turn your sound off:

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I’ve seen miles of this put in. Driving piles is worse.

I had them doing that for a whole week - right across the street - to put in a groundwater retention basin…

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Charmingly Persistent  Jan 19, 2018 • 12:15:10pm

re: #86 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I have a buddy like that. I just told him that our basic principles & viewpoints are so divergent and our differences so irresolvable that there can be no productive discussion of topics like immigration or terrorism.

We talk about history up to the mid-20th century…but anything after WW2 starts wandering off into dangerous ground, like Israel…

Yeah, it was like that with my late father-in-law. I just got up and left when he got his rant on.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 19, 2018 • 12:21:59pm
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Alephnaught  Jan 19, 2018 • 12:22:54pm

Our local Waterstones appears to be doing a rather brisk trade in “Fire and Fury”:

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Skip Intro  Jan 19, 2018 • 12:24:26pm

This is what living in a state run by Democrats is like.

California sets a new record for lowest unemployment rate

Riding a wave of seasonal hiring and robust employment in multiple sectors, California’s unemployment rate fell to a record low 4.3 percent in December.

The state Employment Development Department said Friday that the jobless rate last month plunged to 4.3 percent, with a robust 52,700 jobs added to California payrolls. The statewide unemployment rate was 4.6 percent in November.

EDD said December’s unemployment rate was the lowest since it began keeping records in 1976.

California has gained a total of nearly 2.8 million jobs since the economic expansion began in February 2010.

Read more here: sanluisobispo.com

Get the Republican assholes out of government in your state and it can happen to you.

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Alephnaught  Jan 19, 2018 • 12:26:19pm

BTW Snow in Glasgow! (Video in first tweet, Glasgow commentary in second.)

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KGxvi  Jan 19, 2018 • 12:26:20pm

re: #19 FormerDirtDart

The thousand yard stare, shell shock, PTSD, the idea that “war changes you”… we’ve know these risks for more than a century.

Our military and our veterans have become a political football because of certain party that says they respect and honor “the troops” but fuck them over time and again. And by both parties being too fucking scared to revisit the 2001 AUMF that much of the military is still acting under.

Can’t imagine why people don’t want to sign up.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 12:26:38pm

re: #88 FormerDirtDart

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Pakistan just dumped the dollar and more countries will follow—just as Criswell Bacon predicted…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 19, 2018 • 12:26:50pm

re: #92 FormerDirtDart

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OFFS.

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TedStriker  Jan 19, 2018 • 12:26:50pm

re: #92 FormerDirtDart

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whitebeach  Jan 19, 2018 • 12:30:17pm

re: #97 Joe Bacon 🌹

Pakistan just dumped the dollar and more countries will follow—just as Criswell Bacon predicted…

If this actually does keep on, it will give a whole new meaning to “the buck stops here.”

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 19, 2018 • 12:37:05pm

re: #98 Blind Frog Belly White

OFFS.

re: #99 TedStriker

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Dr. Matt  Jan 19, 2018 • 12:40:53pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 19, 2018 • 12:41:45pm

re: #101 FormerDirtDart

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Just take the ‘T’ off of ‘DIET’.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 19, 2018 • 12:42:40pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 19, 2018 • 12:43:33pm

Not only is Trump stupid, incompetent, racist, narcissistic, and misogynist, he’s also just plain weird.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 19, 2018 • 12:43:37pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 12:45:10pm

re: #105 Blind Frog Belly White

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Not only is Trump stupid, incompetent, racist, narcissistic, and misogynist, he’s also just plain weird.

San Jose Sharks best not win the Stanley Cup then.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 19, 2018 • 12:47:21pm

re: #105 Blind Frog Belly White

I’d be willing to bet that he saw Jaws back in the day and it scared him shitless.

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ObserverArt  Jan 19, 2018 • 12:48:21pm

re: #105 Blind Frog Belly White

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Not only is Trump stupid, incompetent, racist, narcissistic, and misogynist, he’s also just plain weird.

I get the feeling we don’t know just how weird he really is.

And I don’t want to know because it may be too much.

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makeitstop  Jan 19, 2018 • 12:48:23pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 12:49:54pm

re: #110 makeitstop

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Yes, that’s your party Rep Curbelo.

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makeitstop  Jan 19, 2018 • 12:51:03pm

Heh.

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Semper Fi  Jan 19, 2018 • 12:51:05pm

re: #109 ObserverArt

I get the feeling we don’t know just how weird he really is.

And I don’t want to know because it may be too much.

I’m hoping one day we’ll learn more about Trump when Ivanka’s NYT bestseller, “Daddy Dearest” comes out.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 19, 2018 • 12:53:04pm

re: #108 Dr Lizardo

I’d be willing to bet that he saw Jaws back in the day and it scared him shitless.

It did me, but I’m a biologist who knows not to leave big ecological niches empty.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 19, 2018 • 12:54:02pm

re: #109 ObserverArt

I get the feeling we don’t know just how weird he really is.

And I don’t want to know because it may be too much.

There are some things Man was not meant to know.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 12:55:13pm

re: #109 ObserverArt

I get the feeling we don’t know just how weird he really is.

And I don’t want to know because it may be too much.

Yeah there’s a lot even weirder about him lurking behind closed doors I bet.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 12:56:29pm

re: #114 Blind Frog Belly White

It did me, but I’m a biologist who knows not to leave big ecological niches empty.

You also don’t claim to be an alpha male or whatever tough guy Trump likes to sell himself as to his equally tough guy wannabe fanboys.

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Mike Lamb  Jan 19, 2018 • 12:56:55pm

Also, surprised that McConnell didn’t go the whole way with his DACA vs. CHIP graphic by making reference to Americans vs. Furriners.

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I cannot.  Jan 19, 2018 • 12:58:33pm

re: #116 HappyWarrior

Yeah there’s a lot even weirder about him lurking behind closed doors I bet.

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Kragar  Jan 19, 2018 • 12:59:34pm
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gocart mozart  Jan 19, 2018 • 12:59:44pm
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Jay C  Jan 19, 2018 • 1:02:12pm

re: #54 Shropshire Slasher

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Kragar  Jan 19, 2018 • 1:03:20pm

re: #121 gocart mozart

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dangerman  Jan 19, 2018 • 1:04:27pm

re: #118 Mike Lamb

Also, surprised that McConnell didn’t go the whole way with his DACA vs. CHIP graphic by making reference to Americans vs. Furriners.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 1:04:55pm

re: #121 gocart mozart

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I can’t wait to see these smug Trumpers when Mueller announces that Trump obstructed justice.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 19, 2018 • 1:05:44pm

re: #125 HappyWarrior

I can’t wait to see these smug Trumpers when Mueller announces that Trump obstructed justice.

“Yeah, well, that’s just, like, your opinion, man!”

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dangerman  Jan 19, 2018 • 1:06:02pm

re: #120 Kragar

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re: #18 dangerman

Por que no Los dos Mitch?

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Kragar  Jan 19, 2018 • 1:07:14pm
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ObserverArt  Jan 19, 2018 • 1:08:48pm

re: #125 HappyWarrior

I can’t wait to see these smug Trumpers when Mueller announces that Trump obstructed justice.

They are already predisposed to call it a sham. That’s why Fox and others have been doing what they have been doing.

It’s going to get ugly if they try to remove the creep.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 19, 2018 • 1:09:37pm

re: #121 gocart mozart

They really seem to believe whatever Republican propagandists tell them.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 1:09:56pm

re: #129 ObserverArt

They are already predisposed to call it a sham. That’s why Fox and others have been doing what they have been doing.

It’s going to get ugly if they try to remove the creep.

Yeah I’m afraid of violence happening because FNC and Trump himself have convinced them that Mueller is a vindicitive partisan out to get Trump even though Mueller actually has more Republican bonafidies than Trump does. But he’s not a bigoted jerk and unlike Trump has actually served his country honorably.

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Kragar  Jan 19, 2018 • 1:10:01pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 1:10:31pm

re: #130 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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They really seem to believe whatever Republican propagandists tell them.

Yep doesn’t matter if it’s Breitbart, InfoWars, Daily Wire, or FNC. They all fall for propaganda.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 19, 2018 • 1:11:04pm

re: #129 ObserverArt

They are already predisposed to call it a sham. That’s why Fox and others have been doing what they have been doing.

It’s going to get ugly if they try to remove the creep.

We have to remove the creep. It’s unfortunate that some propaganda victims will commit suicide by cop and take some decent people with them. Any bloodshed will be a direct result of Republican propagandists, and they should be held accountable.

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ObserverArt  Jan 19, 2018 • 1:11:40pm

You know, all of this politics is not as important as Tom Brady’s Hand.

Now that is news!

Hmmm. Brady. Belichick. Kraft.

Is this all to deflect for Trump???

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 1:12:30pm

The GOP needs to pay a heavy price for Trump and Trumpism. We can’t get a Democrat in there and then let collective amnesia set in and then go elect someone like oh I dunno Rubio in 2024.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 1:12:56pm

re: #135 ObserverArt

You know, all of this politics is not as important as Tom Brady’s Hand.

Now that is news!

Hmmm. Brady. Belichick. Kraft.

Is this all to deflect for Trump???

Brady’s hand has touched Trump’s hand.

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MsJ  Jan 19, 2018 • 1:13:27pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 1:14:57pm

re: #138 MsJ

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Snowden was and always will be a useful idiot. I will never stop believing that about that man.The right wing crocodile tears over FISA and the NSA are just that.

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ObserverArt  Jan 19, 2018 • 1:15:09pm

Someone that has a Twitter account, please tell Snowden to go fuck himself. Thanks.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 19, 2018 • 1:15:26pm

re: #139 HappyWarrior

Snowden was and always will be a useful idiot. I will never stop believing that about that man.The right wing crocodile tears over FISA and the NSA are just that.

only because they are doming down on the wrong people

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dangerman  Jan 19, 2018 • 1:15:32pm

Shutdowns Are Part of the GOP Brand. Of Course They Get the Blame.

government shutdowns are part of the Republican brand.

It is true that in this case, Democrats do have this lever to pull: the GOP’s need for 60 votes. But even that is the consequence of decisions they made to jam through their wildly unpopular tax bill. The larger reality is that Republicans control the White House, the House, and the Senate. Truth be told, because of earlier bad acts, they control the judiciary. They control everything. If you control everything, you are responsible for what happens. This is a basic reality of life. Blaming Democrats is the legislative/partisan equivalent of kicking the dog when something goes wrong in the house. The GOP controls everything. Of course, they’re responsible.

The Democrats want two things: a resolution of the Dreamers issue and a reinstatement of CHIP. These are not new demands for programs. They were things that existed and then President Trump broke them. In the case of CHIP, it just didn’t get done. There was no positive argument for killing CHIP or resistance to the program. It was simply allowed to expire. Once it expired, Republicans started demanding things in exchange to bring it back. Trump definitely ran against DACA. But he broke it and has been all over the map in saying he either wants it back or doesn’t.

there’s a bit more at the link and it’s fairly straightforward and sober imo

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MsJ  Jan 19, 2018 • 1:15:39pm

Oh please yes.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 1:15:42pm

re: #141 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

only because they are doming down on the wrong people

Of course.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 1:16:11pm

re: #143 MsJ

Oh please yes.

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Good. Fuck the Republicans.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 19, 2018 • 1:18:11pm

re: #140 ObserverArt

Someone that has a Twitter account, please tell Snowden to go fuck himself. Thanks.

Why don’t you create a Twitter account. You don’t have to use your own name, or even look at your timeline.

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dangerman  Jan 19, 2018 • 1:18:26pm

re: #143 MsJ

Oh please yes.

There is very serious concern rippling through the House Republican Conference that they are about to get hosed by the president and Chuck Schumer.

last one to talk to the guy wins

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ObserverArt  Jan 19, 2018 • 1:21:18pm

re: #146 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Why don’t you create a Twitter account. You don’t have to use your own name, or even look at your timeline.

I can’t say I hate Twitter and open an account. Not how I operate. The only reason I mention Snowden is I doubt there is any way for me to contact the rat and tell him myself.

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Kragar  Jan 19, 2018 • 1:25:13pm
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MsJ  Jan 19, 2018 • 1:25:28pm

Huh! 🤔🤔🤔

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Old Liberal  Jan 19, 2018 • 1:26:02pm

re: #148 ObserverArt

I can’t say I hate Twitter and open an account. Not how I operate. The only reason I mention Snowden is I doubt there is any way for me to contact the rat and tell him myself.

I know what you mean. I never did Twitter, never did Facebook. Occasionally wish I had them, but not going to go there.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 1:26:08pm

re: #150 MsJ

Huh! 🤔🤔🤔

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Yeah that smells fishy.

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MsJ  Jan 19, 2018 • 1:26:39pm

re: #150 MsJ

Huh! 🤔🤔🤔

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Ok. This is better.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 1:27:11pm

re: #153 MsJ

Ok. This is better.

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Yeah that’s legit.

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A Mom Anon  Jan 19, 2018 • 1:27:34pm

re: #150 MsJ

Man that sets off every alarm bell in my head.(edit: it connects to Rock the Vote, so never mind)

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MsJ  Jan 19, 2018 • 1:30:27pm

WTFITS??

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 19, 2018 • 1:33:49pm

“PRIORITIZE”?
IOW they will still feed you Fake News from bogus Russian sites.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 19, 2018 • 1:35:23pm
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VegasGolfer  Jan 19, 2018 • 1:36:02pm

re: #107 HappyWarrior

San Jose Sharks best not win the Stanley Cup then.

No need to worry about that.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 19, 2018 • 1:36:08pm

re: #148 ObserverArt

I can’t say I hate Twitter and open an account. Not how I operate. The only reason I mention Snowden is I doubt there is any way for me to contact the rat and tell him myself.

You’re participating in Twitter if you suggest someone Tweets something.
Adding a user to their database doesn’t help them. Half their users are bots anyway.

If it was Gab, I’d refuse to participate, but Twitter, as bad as it is, is the mainstream dialog on the Internet. The crazies need pushback.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 19, 2018 • 1:38:01pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 19, 2018 • 1:38:05pm

re: #142 dangerman

Shutdowns Are Part of the GOP Brand. Of Course They Get the Blame.

The spin (already being whipped up) is that the shutdown is the fault of the Washington Establishment. Trump will step up as the one to broker a “masterful” and “bipartisan” and entirely “presidential” deal to save us from those elites.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 19, 2018 • 1:39:49pm

Afternoon/Evening Lizardim.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 1:40:01pm

re: #158 FormerDirtDart

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Oh now they care about the Opioid crisis. You know what, screw the Republican Party. We can and should help both opioid addicts and Dreamers. I’m sick of right wing assholes acting like because of issue A, we can’t do issue B. It’s moral cowardice from a party and ideology of moral cowards who wouldn’t know courage from their fat asses.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 1:41:15pm

re: #162 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The spin (already being whipped up) is that the shutdown is the fault of the Washington Establishment. Trump will step up as the one to broker a “masterful” and “bipartisan” and entirely “presidential” deal to save us from those elites.

Really? Who’s saying that other than FNC and Breitbart? They’re going to spin for Trump either way. Who gives a shit about them. What I want to know is how the Johnny on the street is going to respond to it. And I guarantee you he’s likely not to buy that spin for the simple reason he’ll see that Trump and his party control both houses of Congress and refused to act on DACA, a very popular idea.

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freetoken  Jan 19, 2018 • 1:43:40pm

False dilemmas - the choice of fallacy pushers everywhere.

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 19, 2018 • 1:44:29pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 1:45:38pm

If this memo was as damning as they claim it is, Trump would have had it out and he wouldn’t shut up about it. Even Trump has to know the memo is a sham.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 19, 2018 • 1:46:07pm

re: #167 Ace-o-aces

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Wow. That kid better sit down. He got owned pretty hard.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 1:46:49pm

I will say this about the opoid crisis and someone who had a close relative die of a heroin overdose. None of these right wingers gave two shits during the crack epidemic in the 80’s and just used that to be racist and judgmental to black people. But this is somehow different.

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gocart mozart  Jan 19, 2018 • 1:46:58pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 19, 2018 • 1:46:59pm

re: #165 HappyWarrior

Really? Who’s saying that other than FNC and Breitbart? They’re going to spin for Trump either way. Who gives a shit about them.

Lots of people follow them and lots of pundits follow their lead. Remember, Donald Trump was elected by people who hate Washington and anybody associated with it, and only tolerate the GOP as long as they support Trump in his plans to MAGA in their sense it, namely for white folks. They will buy into the “Washington eleitist” narrative big time.

But it will be a lot harder for the GOP to bass the buck on this one than with the last shutdown.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 19, 2018 • 1:47:11pm

re: #143 MsJ

Oh please yes.

we can only hope

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 1:50:43pm

re: #172 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Lots of people follow them and lots of pundits follow their lead. Remember, Donald Trump was elected by people who hate Washington and anybody associated with it, and only tolerate the GOP as long as they support Trump in his plans to MAGA in their sense it, namely for white folks. They will buy into the “Washington eleitist” narrative big time.

But it will be a lot harder for the GOP to bass the buck on this one than with the last shutdown.

Yes, yes he was. But I got news for you, things have changed since two Novembers ago. They may try to get him to skirt blame but it’s going to be hard when we can use his own words against him regarding the shut down four falls ago.

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Citizen K  Jan 19, 2018 • 1:51:17pm

re: #172 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Lots of people follow them and lots of pundits follow their lead. Remember, Donald Trump was elected by people who hate Washington and anybody associated with it, and only tolerate the GOP as long as they support Trump in his plans to MAGA in their sense it, namely for white folks. They will buy into the “Washington eleitist” narrative big time.

But it will be a lot harder for the GOP to bass the buck on this one than with the last shutdown.

Then again, we already see that places like the NYT are damn sure on the ‘both sides same thing’ train already, and we have talking heads like CNN’s Dana Bash who bend over backwards to ensure that everything Trump does is somehow treated as the epitome of presidential, up to and including laying any and all blame at the Dems feet.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 19, 2018 • 1:51:33pm

Everything is SO RIDIC with the yam - so fucked that I mispelled RIDIC.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 19, 2018 • 1:53:34pm

re: #176 Stanley Sea

Everything is SO REDIC with the yam

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What’s with the clock motif? A stopped clock is right twice a day?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 1:53:55pm

re: #176 Stanley Sea

Everything is SO REDIC with the yam

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You know, I’ve seen overpriced junk before but no oen does it like the Yam.

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BeachDem  Jan 19, 2018 • 1:56:10pm

re: #108 Dr Lizardo

I’d be willing to bet that he saw Jaws back in the day and it scared him shitless.

Or West Side Story.

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I cannot.  Jan 19, 2018 • 1:57:14pm

re: #176 Stanley Sea

How is that real?

Wait…I know, because 2018 is gonna 2018.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 19, 2018 • 1:57:27pm

re: #179 BeachDem

Or West Side Story.

He’s not cool enough to hang with the Jets.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 19, 2018 • 2:01:03pm

re: #177 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

What’s with the clock motif? A stopped clock is right twice a day?

One of the replies said the official mug of #timesup

He is such a carny.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 19, 2018 • 2:02:09pm

re: #182 Stanley Sea

One of the replies said the official mug of #timesup

He is such a carny.

The top tweet on that hashtag made me just about throw my computer out the window. What the fuck?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 19, 2018 • 2:02:47pm

re: #176 Stanley Sea

Everything is SO RIDIC with the yam - so fucked that I mispelled RIDIC.

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I challenge anyone to drink coffee out of that mug without spilling it all over yourself.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 19, 2018 • 2:03:31pm

re: #179 BeachDem

Or West Side Story.

Sharks, AND Puerto Ricans! It’s a twofer!

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Jay C  Jan 19, 2018 • 2:06:43pm

re: #178 HappyWarrior

You know, I’ve seen overpriced junk before but no oen does it like the Yam.

Except maybe Ivanka.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 19, 2018 • 2:06:57pm

re: #183 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The top tweet on that hashtag made me just about throw my computer out the window. What the fuck?

I’m not seeing it. Thank dog.

No need to post, my friend!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 19, 2018 • 2:07:28pm

re: #187 Stanley Sea

I’m not seeing it. Thank dog.

No need to post, my friend!

Yeah, I won’t go into it. What’s the hashtag supposed to be about?

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Stanley Sea  Jan 19, 2018 • 2:08:04pm

re: #188 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Yeah, I won’t go into it. What’s the hashtag supposed to be about?

Times up?

End of harassment.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 19, 2018 • 2:09:03pm

re: #189 Stanley Sea

Times up?

End of harassment.

Okay. It was a reply to one of those tweets. I’ll let you imagine what it said.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 19, 2018 • 2:09:24pm

The saboteur.

Or more likely, the baby sitter.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 2:09:25pm

re: #186 Jay C

Except maybe Ivanka.

True.

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Renaissance_Man  Jan 19, 2018 • 2:12:05pm

re: #165 HappyWarrior

Really? Who’s saying that other than FNC and Breitbart? They’re going to spin for Trump either way. Who gives a shit about them. What I want to know is how the Johnny on the street is going to respond to it. And I guarantee you he’s likely not to buy that spin for the simple reason he’ll see that Trump and his party control both houses of Congress and refused to act on DACA, a very popular idea.

Given that cult media can make people believe up is down and left is right, I don’t know that I would be so confident that average people on the street will believe things just because they happen to be real and true. History would suggest that average Americans will in fact buy any spin that FOX cares to put out.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 2:12:54pm

re: #193 Renaissance_Man

Given that cult media can make people believe up is down and left is right, I don’t know that I would be so confident that average people on the street will believe things just because they happen to be real and true. History would suggest that average Americans will in fact buy any spin that FOX cares to put out.

I dunno. After Alabama, I’m confident.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 19, 2018 • 2:14:30pm

I went & got one of my favorite dinners.

Roasted chicken - yuge!
Street taco size tortillas
Tillamook sharp cheddar
pico
sour cream

I will make tacos tonight/this whole weekend.

mmmmmmmmmmm

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danarchy  Jan 19, 2018 • 2:14:52pm

re: #177 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

What’s with the clock motif? A stopped clock is right twice a day?

Did a quick search to see if I could find the significance of the clock. Looks like he has a big gaudy clock like that out in front of all of his properties. Not sure why.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 19, 2018 • 2:15:21pm

re: #196 danarchy

Did a quick search to see if I could find the significance of the clock. Looks like he has a big gaudy clock like that out in front of all of his properties. Not sure why.

Captain Hook really let himself go.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 2:16:27pm

Shutting off Chuck U and his asskissing of Sen. Kennedy with his Both Sides bullshit.

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MsJ  Jan 19, 2018 • 2:19:55pm

No deal. I hope Republicans pay dearly for this shit.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 19, 2018 • 2:20:13pm

re: #197 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Captain Hook really let himself go.

Traded the one remaining normal-sized hand for two half-sized ones.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 2:21:03pm

re: #200 Blind Frog Belly White

Traded the one remaining normal-sized hand for two half-sized ones.

The best deal maker!

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 19, 2018 • 2:22:25pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 2:24:07pm

re: #202 Ace-o-aces

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makeitstop  Jan 19, 2018 • 2:27:06pm

re: #169 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Wow. That kid better sit down. He got owned pretty hard.

He’s really not that bright, is he?

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Citizen K  Jan 19, 2018 • 2:28:00pm

What the sweet fuck.

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makeitstop  Jan 19, 2018 • 2:29:26pm

re: #176 Stanley Sea

this coffee mug I just found in @realDonaldTrump’s Doral hotel.

Pardon the expression, but that’s one ugly mug.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 2:29:45pm

re: #205 Citizen K

What the sweet fuck.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 19, 2018 • 2:31:18pm

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jan 19, 2018 • 2:33:23pm

This person was once chair of the Lubbock County DEMOCRATIC Party.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 19, 2018 • 2:35:38pm

I have nothing but distain for this shitstain

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 19, 2018 • 2:38:34pm

This is true, and this is why we can’t have nice things.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 2:39:36pm

re: #211 Blind Frog Belly White

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This is true, and this is why we can’t have nice things.

Yep but we’re held hostage by the Freedom Caucus assholes.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jan 19, 2018 • 2:39:42pm

re: #210 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I have nothing but distain for this shitstain

Di’ stain on his record will never be removed.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 19, 2018 • 2:40:48pm

re: #212 HappyWarrior

Yep but we’re held hostage by the Freedom Caucus assholes.

I suppose Ryan still feels he has to follow the Pedophile Rule.

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scottslemmons  Jan 19, 2018 • 2:41:12pm

re: #121 gocart mozart

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makeitstop  Jan 19, 2018 • 2:43:06pm

re: #208 Barefoot Grin

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Alephnaught  Jan 19, 2018 • 2:46:45pm

OT I did a last minute DJ set at my local after a last minute cancellation: mixcloud.com

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petesh  Jan 19, 2018 • 2:48:53pm

re: #57 Barefoot Grin

I wonder what it will mean when Mueller makes it clear Trump’s long history of shady activity enabled by very wealthy unscrupulous and dangerous thugs? Will we just put an asterisk next to his presidency or will it actually endanger him…..

Well, the connections are already asterisk-worthy, but the possibility of serious danger is very real. Could be absolutely explosive, or what I like to call the Capone solution — nail the bastard for anything; tax evasion would do; laundering dirty money would do; collusion with a foreign power to spend foreign money in elections would do; or, my favorite, paying off a former lover with campaign funds (we don’t know how the cash got into the account that paid her).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 19, 2018 • 2:50:30pm

re: #218 petesh

Well, the connections are already asterisk-worthy, but the possibility of serious danger is very real. Could be absolutely explosive, or what I like to call the Capone solution — nail the bastard for anything; tax evasion would do; laundering dirty money would do; collusion with a foreign power to spend foreign money in elections would do; or, my favorite, paying off a former lover with campaign funds (we don’t know how the cash got into the account that paid her).

We would not need a Mueller investigation if we did not have a GOP majority Congress that is not about to do anything about obvious and egregious violations of the Emoluments clause, blatant conflicts of interest and obstruction of justice.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 19, 2018 • 2:52:55pm

re: #107 HappyWarrior

San Jose Sharks best not win the Stanley Cup then.

As much as I love my team, I’m so torn.

Because if they do win and go (and I have every reason to think they would go if they did win, sigh, NHL stop sucking), it’d break my heart.

That said right now it’s a really long shot anyway.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 2:53:54pm

re: #220 klys (maker of Silmarils)

As much as I love my team, I’m so torn.

Because if they do win and go (and I have every reason to think they would go if they did win, sigh, NHL stop sucking), it’d break my heart.

That said right now it’s a really long shot anyway.

I hear ya about my teams too.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 19, 2018 • 2:54:38pm

Sorry, just watching Chuck the Todd wondering about why evangelicals aren’t disturbed by Trump’s affair with Stormy. They know Stormy. Porn consumption is higher in those states. Of course they give him a pass and a tacit “well done, sir.”

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 19, 2018 • 2:55:20pm

re: #221 HappyWarrior

I hear ya about my teams too.

The headline entertainment at the NHL All-Star game this year? (That I am not watching?)

Kid Rock.

/sigh

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 2:55:45pm

re: #223 klys (maker of Silmarils)

The headline entertainment at the NHL All-Star game this year? (That I am not watching?)

Kid Rock.

/sigh

OFS.

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gocart mozart  Jan 19, 2018 • 2:55:53pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 19, 2018 • 2:57:48pm

re: #225 gocart mozart

Who the hell are y’all trying to fool with this “sexbots will replace human women” shit anyway. I’ve been inside your houses, you can’t even use a coaster properly. Now you’re trying to tell me you’ll clean and maintain a robot that you cum in. Okay josh.

yes, those who can’t get a date with a sex robot maintenance worker for Saturday night are going to stuck with Rosie Palm again

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 19, 2018 • 2:58:18pm

re: #225 gocart mozart

I foresee a lot of UTIs among goobers with enough money to buy one.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 3:01:44pm

there is really no deal yet.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 19, 2018 • 3:02:15pm

So, it looks like it’ll be Russian bot-net approved news services for everyone…

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Targetpractice  Jan 19, 2018 • 3:04:30pm

re: #228 Backwoods_Sleuth

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there is really no deal yet.

Probably met with Schumer, then immediately had Kelly call up the Zombie-eyed Granny Starver and Yertle to see if whatever was discussed is kosher with them. They said “No,” so here we are…watching the clock slowly tick away to midnight.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 19, 2018 • 3:04:42pm
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MsJ  Jan 19, 2018 • 3:06:10pm

I give up. This is what’s trending on Twitter. #1 is the latest Kardashian spawn.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 19, 2018 • 3:06:35pm

re: #229 FormerDirtDart

Latest: Facebook’s Mark Zuckerberg says the social network will look to its community to determine which news sources are “broadly trusted.”

Facebook is for news like who your homies are hanging with and where, what they had for lunch/dinner, whose kids and pets are the cutest and which jokes are the stupidest.

I have never looked on it as a source of news about politics or world events.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jan 19, 2018 • 3:06:55pm

Roll, Tide, roll!

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Targetpractice  Jan 19, 2018 • 3:08:14pm

re: #234 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Roll, Tide, roll!

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Remember the good ol’ days, when that photo first came out and we honestly believed America was not stupid enough to elect such a pathetic attempt at pandering?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 19, 2018 • 3:09:02pm

re: #235 Targetpractice

Remember the good ol’ days, when that photo first came out and we honestly believed America was not stupid enough to elect such a pathetic attempt at pandering?

that was before the Age of the New Media Reality

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jan 19, 2018 • 3:16:15pm

The Truth is probably too much for you to handle with your frail and feeble mentality but I will spoon feed you the ultimate outcome. Your worshiped criminal leaders, Obama, Hillary and all their corrupt cronies will be walking in shackles and leg irons. A sight to behold indeed!

yeah, um, interesting…

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Citizen K  Jan 19, 2018 • 3:20:05pm

re: #232 MsJ

I give up. This is what’s trending on Twitter. #1 is the latest Kardashian spawn.

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I’m wondering how much of that is bot-traffic as well, but…yeah. No fucking surprise, GOP line is swallowed without much fucking work. They don’t even have to do work it seems like, the country is conditioned to accept GOP bad faith as the most sincere of good faith, and Dem good faith as the most cynical of bad faith. It’s a thing that makes me wonder how much we’d have to work just to be treated like something other than the most un-American supermonsters in the history of ever.

No fucking wonder the GOP seems to keep winning the war.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jan 19, 2018 • 3:20:22pm

sex with porn stars and gold plated everything

even if donald trump’s only intrusion into our consciousness was his execrable taste, that would already be too much

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William Lewis  Jan 19, 2018 • 3:23:58pm

re: #170 HappyWarrior

I will say this about the opoid crisis and someone who had a close relative die of a heroin overdose. None of these right wingers gave two shits during the crack epidemic in the 80’s and just used that to be racist and judgmental to black people. But this is somehow different.

Never mind that it has been the GOP’s choices that leave increasing numbers with nothing to do but self medicate… It’s funny when a dude-bro band can even come out with a pointed song on a social issue like this…

THEORY - Rx (Medicate) [OFFICIAL VIDEO]

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 19, 2018 • 3:26:43pm

Prediction: the GOP are going to settle for some lame bullshit deal that kicks the can down the road for anywhere from a few days to a month and when it passes they are going to act like it’s the greatest fucking thing ever.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 19, 2018 • 3:26:53pm

re: #240 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

sex with porn stars and gold plated everything

even if donald trump’s only intrusion into our consciousness was his execrable taste, that would already be too much

Wonder what’s up with melon?

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Targetpractice  Jan 19, 2018 • 3:28:08pm

re: #242 Eclectic Cyborg

Prediction: the GOP are going to settle for some lame bullshit deal that kicks the can down the road for anywhere from a few days to a month and when it passes they are going to act like it’s the greatest fucking thing ever.

Uh, yeah, the CR they’re trying to guilt-trip the DNC to vote for is only 30 days long. And it’ll be the third one since the fiscal year ended last October.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 19, 2018 • 3:28:27pm

re: #242 Eclectic Cyborg

Prediction: the GOP are going to settle for some lame bullshit deal that kicks the can down the road for anywhere from a few days to a month and when it passes they are going to act like it’s the greatest fucking thing ever.

another GOP victory!!!

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BeachDem  Jan 19, 2018 • 3:32:15pm

re: #228 Backwoods_Sleuth

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there is really no deal yet.

Ah, there you are—been saving this for you all day.

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makeitstop  Jan 19, 2018 • 3:36:22pm

Another take on the Nunes memo…

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 3:37:47pm

re: #241 William Lewis

Never mind that it has been the GOP’s choices that leave increasing numbers with nothing to do but self medicate… It’s funny when a dude-bro band can even come out with a pointed song on a social issue like this…

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And remember Trump’s initial pick to head up the crisis? A Congressman who had co-sponsored legislation that would have weakened the FDA’s abilities.

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majii  Jan 19, 2018 • 3:38:12pm

re: #49 HappyWarrior

“I imagine King if he ever ran would fall apart. It’s one thing to be a racist but he’s one who wouldn’t be able to find Mercer’s to sugar daddy him. He’s basically Michelle Bachmann but dumber.”

We both already know what happened to King’s bid to run for POTUS in 2016. It went nowhere fast.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 3:38:53pm

re: #250 majii

“I imagine King if he ever ran would fall apart. It’s one thing to be a racist but he’s one who wouldn’t be able to find Mercer’s to sugar daddy him. He’s basically Michelle Bachmann but dumber.”

We both already know what happened to King’s bid to run for POTUS in 2016. It went nowhere fast.

I don’t think King ever ran but the clown car was mighty big.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 19, 2018 • 3:42:24pm

re: #246 gocart mozart

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Lawyering up.

It would be so gleeful if the asshole from the apprentice had some good tapes.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jan 19, 2018 • 3:43:28pm

re: #235 Targetpractice

Remember the good ol’ days, when that photo first came out and we honestly believed America was not stupid enough to elect such a pathetic attempt at pandering?

re: #236 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

that was before the Age of the New Media Reality

Before we realized that “Raging Dumbass” is now a legitimate political and philosophical position.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 19, 2018 • 3:44:29pm

hahahahahahaaa

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 19, 2018 • 3:45:55pm

re: #253 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Before we realized that “Raging Dumbass” is now a legitimate political and philosophical position.

Nazis and White Supremacists are now simply spots on the political spectrum and not seen as anathema to America and everything it stands for.

and “Anti-Establishment” is to “raging dumbass” what
“alt-right” is to “national socialist”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 19, 2018 • 3:46:51pm

re: #254 Stanley Sea

I really hope he says “fuck it” and goes to Florida anyway.

The optics of that would be fucking glorious.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 19, 2018 • 3:48:53pm

re: #256 Eclectic Cyborg

I really hope he says “fuck it” and goes to Florida anyway.

The optics of that would be fucking glorious.

I’ll send a cake!

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gocart mozart  Jan 19, 2018 • 3:49:23pm
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Skip Intro  Jan 19, 2018 • 3:50:59pm

re: #254 Stanley Sea

hahahahahahaaa

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Well, Eric’s there. That should be good enough.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 19, 2018 • 3:51:08pm

re: #256 Eclectic Cyborg

I really hope he says “fuck it” and goes to Florida anyway.

The optics of that would be fucking glorious.

He will go and he’ll let photos be leaked and he won’t care. And it won’t budge his base a bit. I think he’s hit his low. That’s how bad America is.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 19, 2018 • 3:54:27pm

re: #260 Barefoot Grin

He will go and he’ll let photos be leaked and he won’t care. And it won’t budge his base a bit. I think he’s hit his low. That’s how bad America is.

I’ve learned to never assume this with Trump

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Interesting Times  Jan 19, 2018 • 3:56:01pm

re: #261 Eclectic Cyborg

I’ve learned to never assume this with Trump

I think Barefoot Grin meant “low” as in approval rating. It won’t go any lower than it is now because his cult will gleefully follow him off the edge of a cliff while mainlining Tide pods if they think it will “own the libs.”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 19, 2018 • 3:57:05pm

re: #262 Interesting Times

Ahhhh, got you.

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petesh  Jan 19, 2018 • 3:58:08pm

re: #219 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We would not need a Mueller investigation if we did not have a GOP majority Congress that is not about to do anything about obvious and egregious violations of the Emoluments clause, blatant conflicts of interest and obstruction of justice.

Certainly. And they may be able to stop Mueller’s team bringing charges. There is a decent chance that the Capone solution will come from Schneiderman or someone else, but at least partly based an information Mueller gathered.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 19, 2018 • 3:58:57pm

re: #262 Interesting Times

I think Barefoot Grin meant “low” as in approval rating. It won’t go any lower than it is now because his cult will gleefully follow him off the edge of a cliff while mainlining Tide pods if they think it will “own the libs.”

That’s what I meant, but now I wonder….

(off to drink a bit of wine and escape this stuff for awhile, but I know I’ll be back too soon)

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Skip Intro  Jan 19, 2018 • 4:00:32pm

re: #262 Interesting Times

I think Barefoot Grin meant “low” as in approval rating. It won’t go any lower than it is now because his cult will gleefully follow him off the edge of a cliff while mainlining Tide pods if they think it will “own the libs.”

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 19, 2018 • 4:01:48pm
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petesh  Jan 19, 2018 • 4:01:56pm

re: #260 Barefoot Grin

… I think he’s hit his low. That’s how bad America is.

I do believe he can go lower — in fact he has been lower, though the “strongly oppose” numbers have, I think, never been higher. But, yeah, ‘Murca does not look good.

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TedStriker  Jan 19, 2018 • 4:07:12pm

re: #119 I cannot.

Yeah there’s a lot even weirder about him lurking behind closed doors I bet.

Aide: They’ve uncovered your darkest secret

Trump: Not the corpse orgy!

Aide: No, the golden showe..wait, the corpse what?

Trump: Nothing

— joe heenan (@joeheenan) January 11, 2017

Literal skeletons in the closet.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 4:07:25pm
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jan 19, 2018 • 4:08:39pm

re: #262 Interesting Times

I think Barefoot Grin meant “low” as in approval rating. It won’t go any lower than it is now because his cult will gleefully follow him off the edge of a cliff while mainlining Tide pods if they think it will “own the libs.”

i always like to repeat what a friend of mine said - if hillary said she heard that eating human excrement might cause negative health outcomes, the next day millions of wingnuts would be shovelling shit down their throats swearing it tastes like ice cream

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 4:08:42pm
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my own private idaho  Jan 19, 2018 • 4:09:27pm

re: #64 dangerman

No warrant is required for ICE to audit I-9 documents. Think tax audit.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 19, 2018 • 4:09:32pm

re: #271 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

i always like to repeat what a friend of mine said - if hillary said she heard that eating human excrement might cause negative health outcomes, the next day millions of wingnuts would be shovelling shit down their throats swearing it tastes like ice cream

100 billion flies can’t be wrong!

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meteor  Jan 19, 2018 • 4:10:36pm

re: #272 Backwoods_Sleuth

Wha? California has the sixth largest economy in the world. Better than most countries.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 4:13:18pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 4:15:54pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 19, 2018 • 4:16:27pm

re: #275 meteor

Wha? California has the sixth largest economy in the world. Better than most countries.

The way they get that is calculating based on cost-of-living.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 4:19:42pm
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Interesting Times  Jan 19, 2018 • 4:25:08pm
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prairiefire  Jan 19, 2018 • 4:26:37pm

Headed to my son’s first concert, “The Wombats”.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 4:30:27pm
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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jan 19, 2018 • 4:30:46pm

re: #271 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

i always like to repeat what a friend of mine said - if hillary said she heard that eating human excrement might cause negative health outcomes, the next day millions of wingnuts would be shovelling shit down their throats swearing it tastes like ice cream

If Trump were caught buggering a bald eagle in the middle of the Washington Mall, his fans would immediately praise him for his love of wildlife and for cherishing traditional American symbolism.

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wrenchwench  Jan 19, 2018 • 4:35:34pm

re: #273 my own private idaho

Greetings, hatchling.

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JordanRules  Jan 19, 2018 • 4:36:15pm

Pirro is disturbed and disturbing!

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sagehen  Jan 19, 2018 • 4:38:29pm

re: #271 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

i always like to repeat what a friend of mine said - if hillary said she heard that eating human excrement might cause negative health outcomes, the next day millions of wingnuts would be shovelling shit down their throats swearing it tastes like ice cream

And the old standby:

If Obama walked on water, they’d complain he can’t swim.

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makeitstop  Jan 19, 2018 • 4:41:38pm

re: #281 prairiefire

Headed to my son’s first concert, “The Wombats”.

They’re a really good band! Lads from Liverpool. I’ve seen them twice.

The Wombats - Jump Into The Fog

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 4:42:52pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 4:43:57pm

re: #285 JordanRules

Pirro is disturbed and disturbing!

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Hillary should entertain getting a restraining order. What a creepy nutjob. This woman was once considered Senate material?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 4:44:26pm

re: #290 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Forget it, it’s the Examiner which if I recall is even more nutty than the Times.

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JordanRules  Jan 19, 2018 • 4:46:20pm

re: #291 HappyWarrior

Yeah that’s some creepy obsessive shit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 4:47:23pm
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jan 19, 2018 • 4:47:53pm

re: #278 Blind Frog Belly White

The way they get that is calculating based on cost-of-living.

it’s arrived at by averaging a silicon valley entrepreneur’s two million dollar house with a normal person’s $200 k house and coming up with an “average” house costing one million one hundred thousand

voila! a person with a normal income can’t afford to live there!

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Stanley Sea  Jan 19, 2018 • 4:48:50pm

re: #289 makeitstop

They’re a really good band! Lads from Liverpool. I’ve seen them twice.

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Prairie is a really cool mom.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 19, 2018 • 4:50:41pm

re: #295 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

it’s arrived at by averaging a silicon valley entrepreneur’s two million dollar house with a normal person’s $200 k house and coming up with an “average” house costing one million one hundred thousand

voila! a person with a normal income can’t afford to live there!

Of course, a person with a “normal” income doesn’t exist in California, because the income floor on the left coast is roughly equivalent to the income ceiling in some backwater states.

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Targetpractice  Jan 19, 2018 • 4:50:58pm

re: #294 Backwoods_Sleuth

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It’s good to know that, even over a year later, Hillary lives rent-free in their heads.

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makeitstop  Jan 19, 2018 • 4:53:58pm

re: #296 Stanley Sea

Prairie is a really cool mom.

Yes, she is. She’ll enjoy them, I think.

And given the creepy stalker Ducklips video, this video is suddenly somewhat relevant. Really good song, too.

The Wombats - Greek Tragedy (Official Video)

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 4:55:25pm

re: #293 JordanRules

Yeah that’s some creepy obsessive shit.

Yeah like damn. When Obama beat Romney. It was like okay. He’s beaten. Let it be. FNC needs HRC to distract from the fact that they pushed a failure on their idiotic viewers though.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 4:57:12pm

Haven’t heard of the Wombats but I’ll give them a listen. Always excited to see a first show with someone. My cousin’s son is about to release his first album with his group. Excited about that. I still have one of their original shirts from before they changed their name.

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gocart mozart  Jan 19, 2018 • 4:57:31pm

Polls are still open

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dangerman  Jan 19, 2018 • 4:58:17pm

re: #273 my own private idaho

No warrant is required for ICE to audit I-9 documents. Think tax audit.

Agreed. That’s ice.
The AG was talking about the new CA state law that puts limits in the employers

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jan 19, 2018 • 4:58:24pm

re: #297 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Of course, a person with a “normal” income doesn’t exist in California, because the income floor on the left coast is roughly equivalent to the income ceiling in some backwater states.

in the part of california i live in, you’d be hard pressed to find anybody who would submit to the indignity of being called “normal”

we are weirdos and proud of it!

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 4:58:49pm

re: #302 gocart mozart

Polls are still open

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5) They’ll accept anything he does because they wanted a bigoted prick in the WH.

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stpaulbear  Jan 19, 2018 • 4:59:20pm

re: #177 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

What’s with the clock motif? A stopped clock is right twice a day?

That clock isn’t even right twice a day. The hour hand should be half way between numbers for it to read correctly. Just like Trump, it’s always wrong.

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makeitstop  Jan 19, 2018 • 4:59:56pm

re: #301 HappyWarrior

Haven’t heard of the Wombats but I’ll give them a listen. Always excited to see a first show with someone. My cousin’s son is about to release his first album with his group. Excited about that. I still have one of their original shirts from before they changed their name.

Excellent band. Think Muse without the prog aspirations and a love for New Wave and you’re just about there. And they’ve got that odd Liverpool sense of humor, as evidenced by the ‘Greek Tragedy’ video I just posted.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:00:38pm

re: #307 makeitstop

Excellent band. Think Muse without the prog aspirations and a love for New Wave and you’re just about there. And they’ve got that odd Liverpool sense of humor, as evidenced by the ‘Greek Tragedy’ video I just posted.

Cool. I just downloaded some new tunes today. I got a new set of speakers that I’ve been using with my old iPod Classic.

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BeachDem  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:01:31pm

re: #294 Backwoods_Sleuth

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thread:

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:02:35pm

re: #309 BeachDem

thread:

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Ha. So true.

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makeitstop  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:03:22pm

re: #308 HappyWarrior

Cool. I just downloaded some new tunes today. I got a new set of speakers that I’ve been using with my old iPod Classic.

Essential Wombats:

1996
Let’s Dance to Joy Division
Moving to New York
Your Body is a Weapon
Jump Into the Fog
Tokyo

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JordanRules  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:05:40pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:05:44pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:08:29pm
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stpaulbear  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:09:36pm

I just got back from buying some bookshelves at Ikea. I figured I at least wanted to be organized when everything goes to hell tonight.

After waiting 20 minutes in the checkout line, I found out that one of the $3 item in my bag was a ‘display’ item so I had to leave everything at the counter and figure out how to get back to the right department and get a new one. Once I found the department, I couldn’t remember which of two very similar items I needed to get. I grabbed one of each, and then tried to figure out the shortcut route back to checkout (there wasn’t one).

I did manage to get out of Ikea only spending $25 more than I’d planned. You have to be so disciplined in that store.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:09:40pm

re: #314 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Such a pathetic hack. Exactly, the R’s think they can just make the Democrats make no concessions at all and I’m sorry but seeing the Republican Party that adamantly opposed CHIP in the first place acting like they care is revolting to me.

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makeitstop  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:09:52pm

re: #315 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Damn it, Petty.

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dangerman  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:10:44pm

re: #295 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

it’s arrived at by averaging a silicon valley entrepreneur’s two million dollar house with a normal person’s $200 k house and coming up with an “average” house costing one million one hundred thousand

voila! a person with a normal income can’t afford to live there!

Everyone gets a tax cut!!!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:10:47pm

re: #315 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Oh. DAMN.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:12:06pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:12:41pm

re: #321 Backwoods_Sleuth

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If the government shuts down, do we get to leave them over there? Please say yes.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:13:06pm

I don’t want to hear Republicans bragging about the unemployment rate when they put DACA in jeopardy.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:13:42pm

re: #322 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

If the government shuts down, do we get to leave them over there? Please say yes.

My preference would be me to give Mike a time machine to go to biblical days only for him to find he’s a heretic.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:14:36pm

re: #324 HappyWarrior

My preference would be me to give Mike a time machine to go to biblical days only for him to find he’s a heretic.

Oh, I know, I wish that on a lot of people.

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stpaulbear  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:15:07pm

re: #321 Backwoods_Sleuth

What if there’s a tie vote in the Senate? That would mean it doesn’t pass. Right?

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Stanley Sea  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:15:35pm

re: #297 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:15:40pm

re: #326 stpaulbear

What if there’s a tie vote in the Senate? That would mean it doesn’t pass. Right?

I think there needs to be 60 votes but man that would be too funny.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:16:14pm

re: #325 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Oh, I know, I wish that on a lot of people.

There’s a lot about Pence that I detest more than Trump. Trump hasn’t pushed taxpayer funded reparative therapy yet.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:17:40pm

re: #327 Stanley Sea

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:18:05pm

If I’m the DNC. I use Turmp’s own words against him and the GOP. The buck stops with him.

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makeitstop  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:18:21pm

re: #328 HappyWarrior

I think there needs to be 60 votes but man that would be too funny.

Yeah, they need 60 due to Yertle fucking with the rules when they voted for the tax scam.

That’s why they’re begging for Dem votes.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:19:06pm

re: #329 HappyWarrior

There’s a lot about Pence that I detest more than Trump. Trump hasn’t pushed taxpayer funded reparative therapy yet.

You know exactly what’s coming next.

Nobody likes Pence. NOBODY.
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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:19:43pm

re: #332 makeitstop

Yeah, they need 60 due to Yertle fucking with the rules when they voted for the tax scam.

That’s why they’re begging for Dem votes.

If they’re actually serious about this (Which I don’t think they are), they’d make concessions and I’m sorry but the crocodile tears for the troops piss me off. I still remember the crowing about the 2013 shutdown and how it would be sticking it to the federal employees they so loathe.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:19:48pm

re: #315 Backwoods_Sleuth

sigh.

The prescribing Dr’s are complicit.

See Michael Jackson

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majii  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:20:44pm

re: #251 HappyWarrior

Steve King 2016 Presidential Candidate
party affiliation: Republican Party
experience: U.S. Representative, 4th District of Iowa
home state: Iowa
presidential-candidates.insidegov.com

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:21:02pm

re: #297 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Of course, a person with a “normal” income doesn’t exist in California, because the income floor on the left coast is roughly equivalent to the income ceiling in some backwater states.

In the Silicon Valley area at least there is a very real housing crisis going on where people who are not software developers are having a very hard time finding any kind of affordable housing in a reasonable commute range.

Teachers, janitors, food service workers, etc. - they all need someplace to live and are increasingly priced out of the Bay Area.

And we won’t talk about finding housing on a grad student salary here.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:21:05pm

re: #333 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

You know exactly what’s coming next.

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I’m not from Indiana but I imagine it takes a lot in very Republican Indiana to have that sentiment. Pence is a retrograde piece of shit. I don’t know how much it would have helped but I wish there were more attacks on the outlandish shit he believes and has said in teh past. The whole dismissing women in the military of Mulan was sexist as shit and weird.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:21:26pm

jeebus

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:21:35pm

re: #336 majii

Steve King 2016 Presidential Candidate
party affiliation: Republican Party
experience: U.S. Representative, 4th District of Iowa
home state: Iowa
presidential-candidates.insidegov.com

I stand corrected, thanks Majii!

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bratwurst  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:21:51pm
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Decatur Deb  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:22:09pm

What good ever came from Liverpool?

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makeitstop  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:22:12pm

re: #335 Stanley Sea

sigh.

The prescribing Dr’s are complicit.

See Michael Jackson

There’s always the possibility that he got some of it on his own.

I hate to say that, but it’s a real possibility.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:22:21pm

re: #341 bratwurst

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I’m sorry but Jesse wins the internet for me for today. That made me smile so much.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:22:24pm

re: #337 klys (maker of Silmarils)

In the Silicon Valley area at least there is a very real housing crisis going on where people who are not software developers are having a very hard time finding any kind of affordable housing in a reasonable commute range.

Teachers, janitors, food service workers, etc. - they all need someplace to live and are increasingly priced out of the Bay Area.

And we won’t talk about finding housing on a grad student salary here.

Yeah, you’re no doubt quite right. I was mostly going on impressions - minimum wage in California is higher than federal by some substantial amount, is it not?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:24:00pm

re: #338 HappyWarrior

I’m not from Indiana but I imagine it takes a lot in very Republican Indiana to have that sentiment. Pence is a retrograde piece of shit. I don’t know how much it would have helped but I wish there were more attacks on the outlandish shit he believes and has said in teh past. The whole dismissing women in the military of Mulan was sexist as shit and weird.

Pence royally fucked over the state while he was there. Forget the whole taxpayer-funded homosexual abuse and the idiotic “funerals for fetuses” bullshit - he was a piss-poor governor and he pissed off pretty much everybody at some point. Even the wingnut evangelicals who adored his strait-laced, uptight, repressive brand of conservative religion had at least something they despised about him at some point during his reign of terror.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:24:02pm

His death still hits so hard.

I guess it’s another Petty night for me

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:25:22pm

re: #346 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

During the 2016 campaign, after he was selected as Trump’s running mate, I said - and I still maintain - that he took the job purely because he knew he was about to get his ass royally beaten at the polls in Indiana, and at least a long shot with Trump was better than no chance at all of re-election in his then-current office.

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makeitstop  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:25:28pm

re: #347 Stanley Sea

His death still hits so hard.

I guess it’s another Petty night for me

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‘You Don’t Know’ is one of my favorite songs of his. Definitely my favorite Petty video.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:25:45pm

re: #345 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Yeah, you’re no doubt quite right. I was mostly going on impressions - minimum wage in California is higher than federal by some substantial amount, is it not?

In CA it is $10.50 an hour, Google tells me. Some places have set it higher than that (SF is $13) but …a two bedroom apartment is going to run you a minimum of $2k a month in the South Bay. SF is far, far, faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar worse.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:25:57pm

re: #342 Decatur Deb

What good ever came from Liverpool?

There were these four guys. But man I’m forgetting their names.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:26:20pm

re: #346 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Pence royally fucked over the state while he was there. Forget the whole taxpayer-funded homosexual abuse and the idiotic “funerals for fetuses” bullshit - he was a piss-poor governor and he pissed off pretty much everybody at some point. Even the wingnut evangelicals who adored his strait-laced, uptight, repressive brand of conservative religion had at least something they despised about him at some point during his reign of terror.

Not suprrised.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:26:56pm

re: #350 klys (maker of Silmarils)

In CA it is $10.50 an hour, Google tells me. Some places have set it higher than that (SF is $13) but …a two bedroom apartment is going to run you a minimum of $2k a month in the South Bay. SF is far, far, faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar worse.

Yeah, and that’s the problem. I think the housing pricing is being set on the same impressions that I had, and there’s not enough people able to live up to that expectation.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:27:18pm

re: #343 makeitstop

There’s always the possibility that he got some of it on his own.

I hate to say that, but it’s a real possibility.

family statement indicates it was prescriptions and he apparently overdosed due to the pain level.

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stpaulbear  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:28:01pm

re: #337 klys (maker of Silmarils)

In the Silicon Valley area at least there is a very real housing crisis going on where people who are not software developers are having a very hard time finding any kind of affordable housing in a reasonable commute range.

Teachers, janitors, food service workers, etc. - they all need someplace to live and are increasingly priced out of the Bay Area.

And we won’t talk about finding housing on a grad student salary here.

My uncle bought his three-bedroom rambler in Mountain View for $17,000, but that was in the 1950s.

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Targetpractice  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:28:16pm

2013: ”The government doesn’t really shut down. And the people who are furloughed are just proof of how overgrown our government is. We’ll actually save money not paying these people to do jobs that aren’t needed.”

2017: ”ZOMG!!!! DEMOCRATS ARE SHUTTING DOWN THE GOVERNMENT!!!! THIS IS A DISASTER AND THEY’RE TOTALLY RESPONSIBLE!!!!”

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A Mom Anon  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:28:54pm

re: #318 makeitstop

He had a hip fracture that wasn’t fully healed. On the day he died, that fracture went to a full break. I can only imagine how much pain he was in, along with emphysema and other health issues.

I just do not get the uptick in prescribing fentanyl to people. It’s deadly, especially combined with other medications. It was supposed to be a component of general anesthesia, right? Then what on earth are people being sent home with a supply of it? Pain management is never easy, but damnit I hate seeing people die from this.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:30:30pm

re: #356 Targetpractice

2013: ”The government doesn’t really shut down. And the people who are furloughed are just proof of how overgrown our government is. We’ll actually save money not paying these people to do jobs that aren’t needed.”

2017: ”ZOMG!!!! DEMOCRATS ARE SHUTTING DOWN THE GOVERNMENT!!!! THIS IS A DISASTER AND THEY’RE TOTALLY RESPONSIBLE!!!!”

Pretty much. I don’t want a shutdown but I don’t want to screw the DREAMers especially for a short term fix.

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TedStriker  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:31:32pm

re: #343 makeitstop

There’s always the possibility that he got some of it on his own.

I hate to say that, but it’s a real possibility.

Almost every drug in that list were either painkillers or sedatives, with the exception of the citalopram (AKA Celexa), which is for depression (which is a side effect of some of those other drugs).

Wherever and from whoever Petty got his scripts from, drug interactions like that are not rare and seems to be getting more prevalent amongst performers/musicians that get older, hurt more, and can’t sleep because of the pain (also see MJ and Prince), but still have (or want) to tour.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:31:35pm

I mean, even my parents - and y’all know that fishfolk are some of the most die-hard conservative wingnuts out there, borderline Alex Jones conspiracy nuts - don’t like Pence. They think he is an honest and upright man, and a complete jackwagon of a governor. Let that sink in.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:31:51pm

re: #359 HappyWarrior

Pretty much. I don’t want a shutdown but I don’t want to screw the DREAMers especially for a short term fix.

I fear this will be the ultimate result.

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sagehen  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:32:15pm

re: #357 A Mom Anon

I just do not get the uptick in prescribing fentanyl to people. It’s deadly, especially combined with other medications. It was supposed to be a component of general anesthesia, right? Then what on earth are people being sent home with a supply of it? Pain management is never easy, but damnit I hate seeing people die from this.

The difference between “effective dose” and “lethal dose” is the width of a hair.

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gocart mozart  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:33:03pm

I don’t know what to make of this exchange.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:33:14pm

re: #362 Eclectic Cyborg

I fear this will be the ultimate result.

I know.

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makeitstop  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:34:04pm

re: #351 HappyWarrior

There were these four guys. But man I’m forgetting their names.

I’m reading the Elvis Costello autobiography. I had no idea that he mostly grew up in Liverpool.

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Renaissance_Man  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:34:09pm

re: #359 HappyWarrior

Pretty much. I don’t want a shutdown but I don’t want to screw the DREAMers especially for a short term fix.

Republicans are aware that they can use this as a hostage situation indefinitely. They can hold children and families hostage, secure in the knowledge that the US media will reliably toe the line and blame Democrats. That’s why they only want to fund government in one month increments, so they can have a hostage situation every month. Americans will follow along and blame Democrats happily - I already hear people muttering about how if ‘Democrats keep this up, Trump will get another four years’.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:34:39pm

re: #353 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Yeah, and that’s the problem. I think the housing pricing is being set on the same impressions that I had, and there’s not enough people able to live up to that expectation.

It’s a really complex issue with a lot of thorny bits. Pricing is set to a large degree on demand. There’s not a whole lot of buildable land left in the Bay Area, honestly - switching to higher density is probably a big requirement, but that means giving up the single family home out of the “American dream” so it’s a tough sell. Then you need to be able to cope with the traffic load of the increased density which we’re already doing a shitty job with traffic.

And that’s before we get into things like Prop 13 and the impact that’s had on prices and services.

CA real estate pricing is just fucked up.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:35:10pm

re: #356 Targetpractice

2013: ”The government doesn’t really shut down. And the people who are furloughed are just proof of how overgrown our government is. We’ll actually save money not paying these people to do jobs that aren’t needed.”

2017: ”ZOMG!!!! DEMOCRATS ARE SHUTTING DOWN THE GOVERNMENT!!!! THIS IS A DISASTER AND THEY’RE TOTALLY RESPONSIBLE!!!!”

$24 billion dollar loss to the economy in 2013 for 16 days of government shutdown.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:35:10pm

re: #366 makeitstop

I’m reading the Elvis Costello autobiography. I had no idea that he mostly grew up in Liverpool.

Neither did I but I guess I’m not too surprised given Elvis’s Irish background. Liverpool has always been hub to a large Irish immigrant community. I think Ringo was the only Beatle who wasn’t part irish.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:35:51pm

BTW Makeitstop, listening to our pal Frank Turner’s latest from last year. Really like it. I need to see him play again.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:35:58pm

re: #354 Backwoods_Sleuth

family statement indicates it was prescriptions and he apparently overdosed due to the pain level.

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Such a beautiful, powerful statement.

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makeitstop  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:36:31pm

re: #354 Backwoods_Sleuth

family statement indicates it was prescriptions and he apparently overdosed due to the pain level.

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Ah. I missed that on first read, thanks.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:37:03pm

re: #368 klys (maker of Silmarils)

It’s a really complex issue with a lot of thorny bits. Pricing is set to a large degree on demand. There’s not a whole lot of buildable land left in the Bay Area, honestly - switching to higher density is probably a big requirement, but that means giving up the single family home out of the “American dream” so it’s a tough sell. Then you need to be able to cope with the traffic load of the increased density which we’re already doing a shitty job with traffic.

And that’s before we get into things like Prop 13 and the impact that’s had on prices and services.

CA real estate pricing is just fucked up.

Real life is complicated? Who knew?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:37:20pm

re: #367 Renaissance_Man

Republicans are aware that they can use this as a hostage situation indefinitely. They can hold children and families hostage, secure in the knowledge that the US media will reliably toe the line and blame Democrats. That’s why they only want to fund government in one month increments, so they can have a hostage situation every month. Americans will follow along and blame Democrats happily - I already hear people muttering about how if ‘Democrats keep this up, Trump will get another four years’.

Yep. It sucks don’t it?

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Targetpractice  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:37:25pm

re: #369 Colère Tueur de Lapin

$24 billion dollar loss to the economy in 2013 for 16 days of government shutdown.

”That’s Obama’s fault because he forced the government shutdown! We totally didn’t want a shutdown, he’s the one responsible!”

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:37:45pm

re: #355 stpaulbear

My uncle bought his three-bedroom rambler in Mountain View for $17,000, but that was in the 1950s.

Hahahahahahaha, oh it is worth faaaaaaaaaaar, faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar more than that these days.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:38:04pm

re: #369 Colère Tueur de Lapin

$24 billion dollar loss to the economy in 2013 for 16 days of government shutdown.

The idiotic wingnut statement is an old, old, pony. When the railway machine shop burns down, the trains don’t stop running. In a few weeks, the railroad grinds to a halt.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:38:12pm

TBH I blame shutdowns on one person mostly. Newt Gingrich. He made this kind of thing acceptable. And Newt? Well he’s one of Trump’s biggest cheerleaders and enablers.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:38:23pm

re: #337 klys (maker of Silmarils)

In the Silicon Valley area at least there is a very real housing crisis going on where people who are not software developers are having a very hard time finding any kind of affordable housing in a reasonable commute range.

Teachers, janitors, food service workers, etc. - they all need someplace to live and are increasingly priced out of the Bay Area.

And we won’t talk about finding housing on a grad student salary here.

it’s very true that there are lots of places in california where housing prices are ridiculous. on the other hand there are large areas of the state where you can get a good deal on a house

but the trick is, as always, to find affordable and decent lodgings close enough to where a person can find a job

in this regard, california sucks

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:39:20pm

re: #363 sagehen

The difference between “effective dose” and “lethal dose” is the width of a hair.

Jerry Seinfeld I’m Telling You For The Last Time Pain Relief

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:39:22pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:40:12pm

re: #380 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

it’s very true that there are lots of places in california where housing prices are ridiculous. on the other hand there are large areas of the state where you can get a good deal on a house

but the trick is, as always, to find affordable and decent lodgings close enough to where a person can find a job

in this regard, california sucks

When I was a grad student, I’d frequently buy lunch over at the commons. I got to be quite friendly with some of the food service folks there.

They were commuting in from south of Gilroy because that was where they could afford to live. (That’s an hour + if there was no traffic, each way. And …there’s never no traffic. So add another 30 minutes minimum.)

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:40:39pm

re: #382 FormerDirtDart

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My favorite thing is when people who support actual McCarthyism i.e. right wingers on Twitter complain about that they’re victims of it. Kind of like how this “Nunes dossier” is wores than Watergate. Uh you guys passionately defended Nixon during Watergate, rememebr?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:40:43pm

re: #380 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

it’s very true that there are lots of places in california where housing prices are ridiculous. on the other hand there are large areas of the state where you can get a good deal on a house

but the trick is, as always, to find affordable and decent lodgings close enough to where a person can find a job

in this regard, california sucks

And here is where Minnesota, despite a high average cost of living, has an advantage. The places where the homes are the most expensive are actually out away from the city, on the lake shores. Good housing for working-class people is actually available for a reasonable price and within range of a high density of employers.

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makeitstop  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:42:06pm

re: #371 HappyWarrior

BTW Makeitstop, listening to our pal Frank Turner’s latest from last year. Really like it. I need to see him play again.

It’s been about a year since we saw him last. I figure there’ll be a tour in Spring or Summer. Hope so, anyway. They’re a good show.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:44:17pm

re: #386 makeitstop

It’s been about a year since we saw him last. I figure there’ll be a tour in Spring or Summer. Hope so, anyway. They’re a good show.

Yeah I had a lot of fun when I saw him. I’m seeing Dropkick Murphys in March at the Anthem in D.C. Cannot wait.

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stpaulbear  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:44:18pm

re: #377 klys (maker of Silmarils)

A friend of mine just sold his modest but nice house in the McClaren Park neighborhood of SF. I was kind of surprised that it was listed for only $800K. I didn’t ask what the purchase price was, but I was hoping he’d be able to get over a million.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:44:26pm
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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:44:44pm

re: #351 HappyWarrior

I think I know who you mean… I wonder if they ever made it?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:45:11pm

I hate that we lose people like Petty, Bowie, and others while people like Trump remain. I know that’s a terrible thought but I can’t help it.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:45:38pm

re: #390 Jebediah, RBG

I think I know who you mean… I wonder if they ever made it?

I think they had a few songs.

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whitebeach  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:45:54pm

re: #337 klys (maker of Silmarils)

In the Silicon Valley area at least there is a very real housing crisis going on where people who are not software developers are having a very hard time finding any kind of affordable housing in a reasonable commute range.

Teachers, janitors, food service workers, etc. - they all need someplace to live and are increasingly priced out of the Bay Area.

And we won’t talk about finding housing on a grad student salary here.

My last San Francisco apartment (in 1971) was a nice little one-bedroom on Hyde Street with a Golden Gate view if you got far enough to the left in the original curved bay windows. I felt so pissed to have to be paying $90 per month for it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:46:09pm
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Decatur Deb  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:46:30pm

re: #392 HappyWarrior

I think they had a few songs.

A couple were pretty good.

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makeitstop  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:46:45pm

re: #387 HappyWarrior

Yeah I had a lot of fun when I saw him. I’m seeing Dropkick Murphys in March at the Anthem in D.C. Cannot wait.

The only show we’ve got coming up is Jools Holland with a big band, doing old-school R&B at the Blue Note in Manhattan.

Jools hasn’t played in the US for 21 years. His absence was the only reason we passed on seeing Squeeze when they came through a couple of months back. I’m excited to see him.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:47:36pm

re: #394 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Gaetz is one of the biggest Trump toadies in Congress. He’s an idiot.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:47:46pm

re: #383 klys (maker of Silmarils)

When I was a grad student, I’d frequently buy lunch over at the commons. I got to be quite friendly with some of the food service folks there.

They were commuting in from south of Gilroy because that was where they could afford to live. (That’s an hour + if there was no traffic, each way. And …there’s never no traffic. So add another 30 minutes minimum.)

where i live is an hour and a half away during rush hours

fortunately as a pgmr i am able to come in at odd hours when i can do it in 50 minutes

i work for a desirable employer, so some people fly in from other parts of the state on teusday morning, sleep there teusday and weds night, and fly back after work thursday

for those able to work remotely, sometime soon we will all be able to live where we want (i only get to telecommute two days a week right now)

for those who need to live someplace affordable and get to work at 9am, commuting is torture

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:48:15pm

heh

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:48:24pm

re: #396 makeitstop

The only show we’ve got coming up is Jools Holland with a big band, doing old-school R&B at the Blue Note in Manhattan.

Jools hasn’t played in the US for 21 years. His absence was the only reason we passed on seeing Squeeze when they came through a couple of months back. I’m excited to see him.

Sweet that sounds good. Fleet Foxes, who I also like is playing in Nashville at the Ryman. Me and some friends want to do that but Nashville is a hike.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:50:33pm

re: #398 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

where i live is an hour and a half away during rush hours

fortunately as a pgmr i am able to come in at odd hours when i can do it in 50 minutes

i work for a desirable employer, so some people fly in from other parts of the state on teusday morning, sleep there teusday and weds night, and fly back after work thursday

for those able to work remotely, sometime soon we will all be able to live where we want (i only get to telecommute two days a week right now)

for those who need to live someplace affordable and get to work at 9am, commuting is torture

mr. klys shifted his schedule for years to avoid rush hour; he only started taking public transit this past year because the parking in downtown was horrid and is sticking with it because it’s more pleasant, even if it takes a little longer. But it does take a job with flexible hours (or a flexible boss) and for far too many people that just isn’t a reality.

The Bay Area has a lot going for it, but it also has its share of drawbacks. Some are starting to wear faster than others.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:51:13pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:51:46pm

re: #401 klys (maker of Silmarils)

mr. klys shifted his schedule for years to avoid rush hour; he only started taking public transit this past year because the parking in downtown was horrid and is sticking with it because it’s more pleasant, even if it takes a little longer. But it does take a job with flexible hours (or a flexible boss) and for far too many people that just isn’t a reality.

The Bay Area has a lot going for it, but it also has its share of drawbacks. Some are starting to wear faster than others.

For over a decade, my dad used to commute from the southeast (Indiana) suburbs of Chicago to the North Side where he worked. He wound up leaving the house at like 3:30 AM in order to get to work at a reasonable hour, and also to be able to leave early enough in the afternoon to arrive before us kids had to go to bed.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:52:50pm

re: #295 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

it’s arrived at by averaging a silicon valley entrepreneur’s two million dollar house with a normal person’s $200 k house and coming up with an “average” house costing one million one hundred thousand

voila! a person with a normal income can’t afford to live there!

Median’s still pretty fucking expensive.

Still, you can’t really base ‘poverty’ on the idea that nobody who lives in Colusa County can afford to live in San Francisco.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:52:55pm

I’ve been bitten by a new collecting bug, 1939 New York World’s Fair(“The World of Tomorrow”) memorabilia:

GM Futurama Program.

Unused World’s Fair postcard:

Best part is that these items are relatively cheap ($5.00 and $3.50 respectively, including shipping). This is because millions of people went to the Fair, almost all of them brought something back, and collector interest in this subject is still a little soft relative to the volume of available material.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:53:51pm

re: #401 klys (maker of Silmarils)

When I bough my house in NE Philly I got it for $59,000. Recently I heard a neighbor sold their house for $ 155,000. And that is for a row house with a small yard in the front and a strip of grass in the back.

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makeitstop  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:53:57pm

re: #400 HappyWarrior

Sweet that sounds good. Fleet Foxes, who I also like is playing in Nashville at the Ryman. Me and some friends want to do that but Nashville is a hike.

Yeah, that’s a throw. I used to drive great distances for shows, but now I’m old and lazy. :)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:54:05pm
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:54:16pm

A majority of voters oppose shutting down the government over Democratic demands that a budget deal include provisions to shield from deportation illegal immigrants who came to the country as children, according to the latest Harvard CAPS-Harris Poll.

When voters are asked whether they “favor or oppose Democrats voting to shut the government down” if the funding measure does not restore work permits for those protected under the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, 58 percent said they oppose a shutdown.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:55:04pm

re: #407 makeitstop

Yeah, that’s a throw. I used to drive great distances for shows, but now I’m old and lazy. :)

It’d be a hell of an experience though. Nashville. So much music history there.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:55:40pm

re: #409 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

A majority of voters oppose shutting down the government over Democratic demands that a budget deal include provisions to shield from deportation illegal immigrants who came to the country as children, according to the latest Harvard CAPS-Harris Poll.

When voters are asked whether they “favor or oppose Democrats voting to shut the government down” if the funding measure does not restore work permits for those protected under the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, 58 percent said they oppose a shutdown.

Easy for them to say.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:56:16pm

Plus it’s a short term solution too.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 5:59:00pm

The Republicans shut down the government over ACA and the voters then gave them the Senate. I don’t want to shut down the government but damn it, I don’t like the DREAMers being used as a sick bargaining chip by a party who doesn’t want to do anything for them.

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stpaulbear  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:00:30pm

re: #385 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

And here is where Minnesota, despite a high average cost of living, has an advantage. The places where the homes are the most expensive are actually out away from the city, on the lake shores. Good housing for working-class people is actually available for a reasonable price and within range of a high density of employers.

Affordable housing for a blue collar incomes has all but disappeared in St. Paul. It’s become a bit of a metro wide crisis. I know I’ve been looking at unassisted senior housing and the rental rates are brutal. I may need to stay in my 130 year old house.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:01:00pm

re: #414 stpaulbear

Affordable housing for a blue collar incomes has all but disappeared in St. Paul. It’s become a bit of a metro wide crisis. I know I’ve been looking at unassisted senior housing and the rental rates are brutal. I may need to stay in my 130 year old house.

Interesting. Over here on the Minneapolis side, I haven’t heard so much of that.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:02:34pm

re: #413 HappyWarrior

The Republicans shut down the government over ACA and the voters then gave them the Senate. I don’t want to shut down the government but damn it, I don’t like the DREAMers being used as a sick bargaining chip by a party who doesn’t want to do anything for them.

Never give in to hostage takers.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:03:11pm

re: #416 Unshaken Defiance

Never give in to hostage takers.

Exactly.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:04:37pm

Man though I’m old enough to remember when Clinton’s DOJ took some heat over the handling of Elian Gonzales. Man how things change. That honestly was a tough case. I would have liked that kid to enjoy living in the U.S. but I understood how the father felt too. I just hope he’s grown up to be a happy young adult and has good memories of the American people.

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Skip Intro  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:04:57pm

re: #408 Backwoods_Sleuth

re: #408 Backwoods_Sleuth

This guy, I think.

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nowherenorth2  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:05:23pm

So when the right is talking about the deep state…
They are talking about the deep state and infusion of Russians in to the gop and various levels of influence they have ovee them?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:06:54pm

re: #419 Skip Intro

This guy, I think.

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He really does remind me of Flounder from Animal House but without the likability.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:07:06pm
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Skip Intro  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:07:32pm

re: #418 HappyWarrior

I’m sure he does, Happy.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:07:43pm

re: #422 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Lovely.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:08:13pm

re: #423 Skip Intro

I’m sure he does, Happy.

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You know I meant the civilians he would have encountered. Dude do you have something against me? I’m serious.

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Skip Intro  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:08:50pm

re: #422 Backwoods_Sleuth

So is there anyone left at State now?

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Decatur Deb  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:09:11pm

re: #422 Backwoods_Sleuth

State Department’s top sanctions expert quits over Trump’s Iran deal moves: report

Don’t make no never-mind. Trump has a good concierge at Trump Tower who can slide right in to the job.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:09:45pm

re: #426 Skip Intro

So is there anyone left at State now?

No, but that’s OK, that’s one of the areas Trump intended to eliminate. He’s a master negotiator, remember?

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retired cynic  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:10:43pm

Hmmm. I guess I need to learn to use my thumbs.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:10:43pm

I do have a guy I went to school with who entered State during the Obama years. But I know we’re talking about high ranking people and those who have been around a long time.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:11:57pm
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Skip Intro  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:13:01pm

re: #425 HappyWarrior

You’re so desperate to post that you rarely think about what you’re saying. If some guy with a gun broke into the closet I was hiding in and took me away I know that’s what I’d remember about being here.

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CleverToad  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:14:28pm

re: #416 Unshaken Defiance

Never give in to hostage takers.

“…But we’ve proved it again and again,
That if once you have paid him the Dane-geld
You never get rid of the Dane…”
— Kipling

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:14:50pm

re: #429 retired cynic

Hmmm. I guess I need to learn to use my thumbs.

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I went on a Pokemon Go raid on Monday night when the lows were dipping down into the -10 degrees F (-23 degrees C) realm. I would’ve killed for one of those mitts; after we beat the boss, I had to sit in the car with the heater cranked to the max for about 5 minutes until my fingers thawed out enough for me to try to catch it. (I failed.)

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JordanRules  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:15:10pm

re: #432 Skip Intro

This is your opinion and it’s bullshit in my opinion.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:15:49pm

=re: #432 Skip Intro

You’re so desperate to post that you rarely think about what you’re saying. If some guy with a gun broke into the closet I was hiding in and took me away I know that’s what I’d remember about being here.

Fair enough, but do you have to insult me? Rarely think about what I’m saying? Yeah it was short-sighted but to be completely honest with you, I ahd forgotten about that part of the raid. It’s been seventeen years after all. Seriously, if you have something against me, ignore me and I’ll ignore you. I have no problem not quoting you if you want me to but don’t treat me like I’m some dummy.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:19:30pm

re: #432 Skip Intro

You’re so desperate to post that you rarely think about what you’re saying. If some guy with a gun broke into the closet I was hiding in and took me away I know that’s what I’d remember about being here.

Some of us on the spectrum find conversing online to be much easier than conversing face to face. There’s no call to be a dick about it.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:22:28pm

re: #437 Blind Frog Belly White

Some of us on the spectrum find conversing online to be much easier than conversing face to face. There’s no call to be a dick about it.

Like yeah, I sometimes post before I think. A lot of people do that in face to face communication. I take my time thinking more in face to face because I’m more shy and introverted but online I can let out. I just don’t know why you have to school me over a fairly innocent observation. And yeah maybe it was ignorant to think that he would have good memories after what happened with the Feds that day but he still interacted with a lot more American civilians than the average Cuban of his age will have which I just wondered about his perspective now as a 25 year old man.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:22:44pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:23:52pm

re: #439 Backwoods_Sleuth

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In that case, I’m almost in favor of the shutdown. I realize I’m succumbing to exactly the kind of adversarial politics that I just denounced vehemently to Mrs. Fish a few hours ago, but goddamn it, if it pisses Trump off, it makes a part of me very happy.

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BeachDem  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:26:19pm

re: #394 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:27:47pm

re: #438 HappyWarrior

Like yeah, I sometimes post before I think. A lot of people do that in face to face communication. I take my time thinking more in face to face because I’m more shy and introverted but online I can let out. I just don’t know why you have to school me over a fairly innocent observation. And yeah maybe it was ignorant to think that he would have good memories after what happened with the Feds that day but he still interacted with a lot more American civilians than the average Cuban of his age will have which I just wondered about his perspective now as a 25 year old man.

He says he’s happy to have grown up in Cuba, where he feels like he was allowed a childhood and privacy he would not have gotten in America, where he would have been used by anti-Cuba propagandists and subject to repeated interviews and not been allowed to be himself.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:29:45pm

re: #442 Blind Frog Belly White

He says he’s happy to have grown up in Cuba, where he feels like he was allowed a childhood and privacy he would not have gotten in America, where he would have been used by anti-Cuba propagandists and subject to repeated interviews and not been allowed to be himself.

And that’s really all I wanted to know. I can’t say I blame him given the circumstances of what happened. Thanks.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:30:41pm

re: #432 Skip Intro

You’re so desperate to post that you rarely think about what you’re saying. If some guy with a gun broke into the closet I was hiding in and took me away I know that’s what I’d remember about being here.

Desperate to post? That’s bullshit. You have made it clear you have some as yet poorly defined issue with Happy.

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sagehen  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:31:09pm

re: #391 HappyWarrior

I hate that we lose people like Petty, Bowie, and others while people like Trump remain. I know that’s a terrible thought but I can’t help it.

Billy Joel - Only The Good Die Young (Live at Farm Aid 1985)

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:32:17pm

Speaking face-to-face is way more complicated, especially for those on the spectrum, because you’ve got too much input that has to be analyzed that’s outside the simple words of the conversation. When I’m speaking to others in person, I often feel like my brain is on speed to stay ahead of the conversation in real time.

Typing, there’s only the words, and my fingers run a bit slower than my brain, so I can ensure I’m saying what I mean.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:32:41pm

re: #444 Unshaken Defiance

Desperate to post? That’s bullshit. You have made it clear you have some as yet poorly defined issue with Happy.

I appreciate that, thanks. I admit, I’m impulsive in my thoughts but desperate to post is a pretty spiteful thing to say to someone you don’t know.

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Skip Intro  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:34:03pm

re: #444 Unshaken Defiance

Desperate to post? That’s bullshit. You have made it clear you have some as yet poorly defined issue with Happy.

No it’s not bullshit at all. Nobody posts more here than Happy.

I await my fate from the Viking Kitties for stating the obvious.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:36:20pm

re: #448 Skip Intro

No it’s not bullshit at all. Nobody posts more here than Happy.

I await my fate from the Viking Kitties for stating the obvious.

Who pissed in your Cheerios, Princess?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:36:50pm

re: #448 Skip Intro

No it’s not bullshit at all. Nobody posts more here than Happy.

I await my fate from the Viking Kitties for stating the obvious.

Okay if it wasn’t me, it would be someone else. Would you be pedantic on them the way you are me? Yeah I post a lot. I admit it. I don’t have much of a social life outside the internet. I’m not trying to pull some martyr shit or get you attacked but if you have some issue with me, let me know rather than going after me because you feel I post too much rather than going after me for a fairly innocent obesrvation.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:36:54pm

Alright, kids, don’t make me start strapping y’all into the asbestos-scale lizard suits.

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MsJ  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:37:42pm

re: #448 Skip Intro

No it’s not bullshit at all. Nobody posts more here than Happy.

I await my fate from the Viking Kitties for stating the obvious.

And the problem with that is…what exactly?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:37:56pm

re: #448 Skip Intro

No it’s not bullshit at all. Nobody posts more here than Happy.

I await my fate from the Viking Kitties for stating the obvious.

I think this whole thing has said a lot more about you so far than it has about Happy.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:38:35pm

re: #451 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Alright, kids, don’t make me start strapping y’all into the asbestos-scale lizard suits.

I’m willing to let this go. I just don’t like being talked to like I’m some idiot who doesn’t think. I made an I think fairly decent observation about a Cuban kid who experienced more of America than the average Cuban of that age group and wondered what his memories may be of the American people. I’ll drop it though. I don’t want this to turn into a pissing match.

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makeitstop  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:41:58pm

re: #454 HappyWarrior

I’m willing to let this go. I just don’t like being talked to like I’m some idiot who doesn’t think. I made an I think fairly decent observation about a Cuban kid who experienced more of America than the average Cuban of that age group and wondered what his memories may be of the American people. I’ll drop it though. I don’t want this to turn into a pissing match.

Shine it on, bro. You’re not the problem here.

New thread.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:42:35pm

re: #455 makeitstop

Shine it on, bro. You’re not the problem here.

New thread.

YEp going upstairs.

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electrotek  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:47:22pm

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 19, 2018 • 10:27:35pm

A few years ago, I was laid up in hospital for a week with diverticulitis, with a tube down my throat spouting out a disgusting bile (on the plus side, that was the point). Gilda Ratner’s SNL routine was always on my mind. Just throwing that out there.


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