Need Some Exceptional Music? Prepare to Be Amazed by Classical Pianist Daniil Trifonov’s Tiny Desk Concert

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Jan. 12, 2018 | Tom Huizenga — When we invited Russian pianist Daniil Trifonov to play a Tiny Desk concert, we rolled out the big guns. In place of the trusty upright, we wedged a 7-foot grand piano behind Bob Boilen’s desk in preparation for the artist who The Times of London called “without question the most astounding pianist of our age.”

That’s a pretty lofty claim, but watch and judge for yourself. His performance here is extraordinary. Still in his 20s, Trifonov seems to have it all: jaw-dropping technique and interpretive skills beyond his age. He’s also a composer — the night before his NPR visit, he played his own knuckle-twisting piano concerto at the Kennedy Center here in Washington, D.C.

But for his Tiny Desk show, Trifonov focused on Chopin, beginning with the mercurial “Fantaisie-Impromptu” in C-sharp minor, a work that mixes sweeping melody, turbulent passion and wistful repose. Hunching close over the keyboard with feline agility, Trifonov’s slender fingers glide effortlessly. He coaxes the instrument to sing tenderly in the slow central section.

Trifonov follows with a pair of short tributes to Chopin by his peers. Robert Schumann’s “Chopin” accentuates the lyrical side of Chopin, filtered through the German composer’s forward-looking harmonies, while Edvard Grieg’s “Hommage à Chopin” offers volatility, lovingly rendered.

The smartly programmed set is capped with more Chopin, but with a nod to Mozart: the finale from a set of variations based on an aria from Don Giovanni. It gives Trifonov a chance to display his lightness of touch, plus a few pianistic fireworks. Smiling, he treats the tricky filigreed runs and hand crossings as if it were a child’s game. Look closely and you can see the piano shake.

(Daniil Trifonov appears courtesy of Deutsche Grammophon GmbH.)

Set List*

Chopin: “Fantaisie-Impromptu, Op. 66”

Schumann: “Chopin. Agitato” (from Carnaval)

Grieg: “Hommage à Chopin, Op. 73, No. 5”

Chopin: “Variations on ‘Là ci darem la mano’ (from Mozart’s Don Giovanni) - Coda. Alla Polacca”

*(Selections found on the album Chopin Evocations.)

MUSICIAN
Daniil Trifonov (piano)

CREDITS
Producers: Tom Huizenga, Morgan Noelle Smith; Creative Director: Bob Boilen; Audio Engineer: Josh Rogosin; Videographers: Morgan Noelle Smith, Alyse Young; Assistant Editor: Alyse Young; Photo: Jenna Sterner/NPR

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378 comments

1
Charles Johnson  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:17:00pm

This guy is a monster. Amazing technique.

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dirkdigglerjr  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:26:32pm

Chopin was my go to classical make-out music in college. Throw in a little Sade, and the night was complete, so to speak.

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Cheechako  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:30:03pm

Saw a report the Senate is voting on CR at 10 pm. Any other info?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:31:04pm

re: #3 Cheechako

Saw a report the Senate is voting on CR at 10 pm. Any other info?

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dirkdigglerjr  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:31:31pm

re: #3 Cheechako

Apparently Butters is floating the idea of a CR until early February.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:31:49pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:32:02pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:32:02pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

This guy is a monster. Amazing technique.

Hi!

Signs in, finds music, OOOOO Chopin … .

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:33:26pm

I know the potential impact of the shutdown here is small change compared to what some folks are facing, but I am supposed to be running a race in Death Valley on Feb. 3rd and we have campground reservations for the night before.

I may have just booked a back-up hotel in Lone Pine on the chance that the race goes on even if the campground is closed.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:33:44pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

If it functioned as a bribe, they got their money’s worth and didn’t have to eat the Kraft Dinner that Mar-a-Lago presents as “cuisine.”

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:36:01pm

My wife booked us into a motel in Westminster, Colo. for Wednesday night (car service on Thursday morning at Westminster Mercedes-Benz).

She went over our finances again due to the pending shutdown and says we have enough money saved for at least a year, so we can afford to have our car service done.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:37:37pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:37:59pm

meltdown commencing:

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dirkdigglerjr  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:38:01pm

re: #9 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Oh but the parks will be “open.” Just without anyone to provide security, first aid, etc. What could possibly go wrong?

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retired cynic  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:40:39pm

I have never seen that particular finger technique before. Fascinating!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:40:52pm

re: #14 dirkdigglerjr

Oh but the parks will be “open.” Just without anyone to provide security, first aid, etc. What could possibly go wrong?

But facilities requiring regular maintenance will probably be closed …like the campgrounds…

The race is organized by a private group with permits, so that part might happen if the park is technically open. I don’t know. I just want to go run in a pretty setting, dammit.

(I know, this is really small potatoes and the least reason why the shutdown is awful. And I support the shutdown over negotiating with the hostage takers but I’d rather see nobody get hurt except the people who deserve it.)

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:40:58pm

re: #13 Backwoods_Sleuth

You had a deal on the table that could pass both houses, asshole. And you torched it out of pique and made a spectacle of yourself. Shut the fuck up, let the adults reach a deal, and then fucking sign it, if you don’t know what you want.

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Skip Intro  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:41:42pm

re: #14 dirkdigglerjr

That would be a real bad idea.

“Large parks, like Death Valley, get about 3,000 visitors a day on average. What happens if there aren’t any bathrooms? “Imagine how much exposed feces there might be,” he said. “

newrepublic.com

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Cheechako  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:42:14pm

re: #11 Anymouse 🌹

My wife booked us into a motel in Westminster, Colo. for Wednesday night (car service on Thursday morning at Westminster Mercedes-Benz).

She went over our finances again due to the pending shutdown and says we have enough money saved for at least a year, so we can afford to have our car service done.

Here’s how a federal government shutdown could affect Colorado — from federal workers to research to parks

From the above article:

“The Veterans Health Administration received advance appropriations for Fiscal Year 2018 as part of the 2017 Budget. So in the event of a government shutdown, VHA would continue full operations,” said Curt Cashour, a VA spokesman, in a statement. “In addition, even in the event that there is a shutdown, 95.5 percent of VA employees would come to work, and most aspects of VA’s operations would not be impacted.”

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:43:43pm

Hopefully the car dealer will take extra-special care of us.

After our village attorney totaled his car last week, we have the last Smart in the Panhandle. It’s an endangered car species here.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:44:36pm

re: #19 Cheechako

The VHA would continue (minus a few workers), but VA Disability would stop. That’s the part that immediately affects me.

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dirkdigglerjr  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:44:39pm

re: #16 klys (maker of Silmarils)

These idiot will try to keep them all “open.” And it will be like that patch of Yellowstone where technically there is no law.

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ipsos  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:44:57pm

re: #9 klys (maker of Silmarils)

The complicated regulatory stuff that I consult on requires my near-constant use of the website of a particular 3-letter Federal agency. There’s a filing window that’s supposed to open on Thursday for which I have a dozen clients depending on me to get their regulatory filings in on time. I literally can’t even begin working on their filings without access to one particular piece of that agency’s website. Which they take offline immediately when a shutdown hits, or at least they did last time.

I will be sitting here staring aimlessly out into the void Monday morning (and not being paid for said void-staring) if that website isn’t up.

Good fucking times.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:45:08pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

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There is a value to demonstrations, but like all tools, they have a shelf-life and a season. (Learned that walking a picket line for 101 days mid-Nov to mid-Feb in freaking cold Kentucky.) We’ll be in the streets again when the payback looks achievable. Until then there is still a working electoral process in the states, and a November fucking to prepare.

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allegro  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:46:54pm

re: #15 retired cynic

I have never seen that particular finger technique before. Fascinating!

I noticed that too. I think it’s those looooong fingers. With my little hands, they looked more like spiders running up and down the keyboard. He so lovingly strokes the keys, fingers extended. Kinda made me horny. LOL

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:49:20pm

re: #13 Backwoods_Sleuth

meltdown commencing:

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But the shutdown was all Obama’s fault in 2013. What changed? Oh yeah that’s right.

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dirkdigglerjr  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:49:47pm

Still trying to figure out how a $130,000 hush money payment to a porn performer isn’t the lead on every network and every newspaper (Faux News excluded). Even my “dad” is mystified.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:49:59pm
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calochortus  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:50:40pm

re: #5 dirkdigglerjr

Apparently Butters is floating the idea of a CR until early February.

How is that going to work? Didn’t the House members get the OK to go home this morning? Or doesn’t it count if the government shuts down on a weekend?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:50:49pm

re: #27 dirkdigglerjr

Still trying to figure out how a $130,000 hush money payment to a porn performer isn’t the lead on every network and every newspaper (Faux News excluded). Even my “dad” is mystified.

I know. If this was Obama, Bush, Clinton, anyone else.

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dirkdigglerjr  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:50:54pm

re: #18 Skip Intro

We will truly be a shithole country.

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Cheechako  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:51:31pm

re: #21 Anymouse 🌹

The VHA would continue (minus a few workers), but VA Disability would stop. That’s the part that immediately affects me.

I can’t remember exactly, but I seem to remember Fed payments (i.e. Retirement, SSS, SDI, Disability) were paid during the last shutdown. I might be remembering incorrectly.

But, I’m also in the boat with you. I’m retired Fed and my wife has SSS.

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calochortus  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:51:42pm

re: #26 HappyWarrior

But the shutdown was all Obama’s fault in 2013. What changed? Oh yeah that’s right.

Apparently Obama “normalized” shut-downs, so it’s all his fault this time too.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:52:10pm

re: #33 calochortus

Apparently Obama “normalized” shut-downs, so it’s all his fault this time too.

For fuck sake.

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Skip Intro  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:52:30pm

re: #32 Cheechako

You remember correctly.

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dirkdigglerjr  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:53:07pm

re: #29 calochortus

House members were told to hang around. Not sure if they are still there.

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makeitstop  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:54:15pm

re: #29 calochortus

How is that going to work? Didn’t the House members get the OK to go home this morning? Or doesn’t it count if the government shuts down on a weekend?

I heard that leadership (such as it is) told them to stick around.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:54:19pm

re: #32 Cheechako

I can’t remember exactly, but I seem to remember Fed payments (i.e. Retirement, SSS, SDI, Disability) were paid during the last shutdown. I might be remembering incorrectly.

But, I’m also in the boat with you. I’m retired Fed and my wife has SSS.

There’s a certain amount of momentum built into the system. Much of it won’t stop on a dime. If they go into long-term brainlock, it will eventually freeze.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:54:52pm

Okay, so I went over to the VA main Website, and noted a subtle change … so I fired a query at the VA.

On the main page, the VA notes they operate over 130 cemeteries. It now reads they operate over 130 in the United States and Puerto Rico.

That drew a question from me:

The main Website notes the VA runs veterans cemeteries in the USA and Puerto Rico.

I am curious why it is written that way, since Puerto Rico is part of the United States.

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calochortus  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:55:02pm

re: #36 dirkdigglerjr

House members were told to hang around. Not sure if they are still there.

Ah, I’ve been out of touch with politics much of the day. Actually, it was restful.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:55:19pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:55:31pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

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dirkdigglerjr  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:56:41pm

re: #25 allegro

With those fingers even Rachmaninoff would be jealous!

awesomestories.com

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:57:32pm

Well the two memes I’m seeing are “SchumerShutdown”, funny how it wasn’t a McConnellMeltdown in 2013 and Democrats are shutting down the government to provide benefits for illegal immigrants. Uh how about people who came as kids and know nothing else but this nation having their livelihoods threatened? Becaues that’s more accurate.

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retired cynic  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:58:29pm

re: #42 Unshaken Defiance

I heard on NPR that there was an especially big march planned for Las Vegas….

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:58:45pm

re: #32 Cheechako

I can’t remember exactly, but I seem to remember Fed payments (i.e. Retirement, SSS, SDI, Disability) were paid during the last shutdown. I might be remembering incorrectly.

But, I’m also in the boat with you. I’m retired Fed and my wife has SSS.

Social Security is paid from its own trust fund and is not (supposed to be) affected by a shutdown (though its employees are).

As for the rest, the shutdown took place over seventeen days and did not affect the payment schedule of things such as retirement or disability. That said, the VA warned us then that we would be cut off as well. The Ted Cruz Express was resolved before that happened.

en.wikipedia.org

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dirkdigglerjr  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:58:54pm

Shutdown odds spiking higher on prediction markets.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:59:00pm
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Skip Intro  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:59:10pm

re: #44 HappyWarrior

#TrumpShutdown is trending. Lots of nuts on it though.

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Archangelus  Jan 19, 2018 • 6:59:11pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:00:07pm

re: #49 Skip Intro

#TrumpShutdown is trending. Lots of nuts on it though.

I’m sure.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:00:35pm

re: #50 Archangelus

Still waiting for an obscene Drop Dead note from Betty White.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:00:36pm

re: #50 Archangelus

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I wasn’t expecting that.

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Archangelus  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:01:27pm

re: #53 HappyWarrior

I wasn’t expecting that.

Yeah, welcome to the jungle club…

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Skip Intro  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:01:44pm
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Cheechako  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:02:23pm

Senate is live on C-SPAN

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Charles Johnson  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:02:43pm

Sorry, but the liberal movement is disturbingly incompetent. People on Twitter are telling me about marches planned for TOMORROW, and this is the first time I’ve heard about them. That’s pathetic. I’m not saying I’m the most popular person on Twitter, but SOMEBODY should have noticed that I’m in a position to help promote these kinds of events.

This is why we have Donald Trump in the White House. The left is disorganized and everything is ad hoc.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:02:50pm

I’ve had an RA attack going on since the 2nd. I had Dr appointments scheduled for Monday afternoon and Wednesday. Now if the shutdown occurs I have to cancel those appointments.

We have been told that we will not be able to take any leave during the shutdown and we have to work.

It’s bad enough that there is a shortage of Humira and IV bags, now I’m having pain attacks that won’t let up at I have to work on Monday…

From what we’re hearing this shutdown may go longer than the 5 week Holiday Fuck Newt did to us from Thanksgiving 95 to past New Years Day 96…

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Cheechako  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:04:44pm

re: #56 Cheechako

Senate is live on C-SPAN

Not much happening…yet.

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jaunte  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:05:13pm

re: #44 HappyWarrior

“SchumerShutdown”

I saw someone on Twitter today mention that nobody blames Sophie for Sophie’s choice, you blame the Nazis.

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JordanRules  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:05:21pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:05:21pm

re: #54 Archangelus

Yeah, welcome to the jungle club…

Most of the time, I’m pleasantly surprised by finding out certain people dislike Trump rather than be annoyingly surprised that certain people like Trump.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:06:43pm

re: #27 dirkdigglerjr

Still trying to figure out how a $130,000 hush money payment to a porn performer isn’t the lead on every network and every newspaper (Faux News excluded). Even my “dad” is mystified.

asshole fatigue

trump has worn out our oh my god can you believe what a fucking asshole trump is reflex

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:07:16pm

re: #60 jaunte

I saw someone on Twitter today mention that nobody blames Sophie for Sophie’s choice, you blame the Nazis.

The logic and I use that term loosely is that they need the Dems to pass the resolution. Okay, then, what’s McConnnell and Trump willing to give up for those Dem votes? Then again, I recall one Republican, the guy who Donnelly in Indiana actually beat said that compromise for the Democrats should be doing what the Republicans tell tehm to do. They have the majority in both Houses and the Presidency. If they can’t get this passed, they shouldn’t be trusted with the keys to the WH and Congress. They shouldn’t anyhow but you know what I mean.

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JordanRules  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:08:28pm
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:08:47pm

the vote ain’t gonna happen soon i think since senators must bloviate for at least an hour before anything important

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Skip Intro  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:10:04pm

re: #47 dirkdigglerjr

Shutdown odds spiking higher on prediction markets.

If it happens Trump won’t be bragging about his “record” stock market levels any more.

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dirkdigglerjr  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:10:23pm

This all played out from Trump’s bring me something and I’ll sign it summit, to the deal Butters and Durbin had worked out only to be sandbagged by Miller, Cotton, Goodlatte, etc., and the ensuing “shithole” controversy. In the end, you can only surmise that Kelly thinks a shutdown will work for Trump politically. Otherwise the deal would have been done.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:10:35pm

re: #58 Joe Bacon 🌹

I’ve had an RA attack going on since the 2nd. I had Dr appointments scheduled for Monday afternoon and Wednesday. Now if the shutdown occurs I have to cancel those appointments.

We have been told that we will not be able to take any leave during the shutdown and we have to work.

It’s bad enough that there is a shortage of Humira and IV bags, now I’m having pain attacks that won’t let up at I have to work on Monday…

From what we’re hearing this shutdown may go longer than the 5 week Holiday Fuck Newt did to us from Thanksgiving 95 to past New Years Day 96…

I’m terribly sorry about the RA attack. I hope it resolves soon.

Ah, the second shutdown of 1995, also brought to you by the GOP. I went unpaid in the military until they fixed that nonsense at the end of the first week of January.

We got the “mutiny” speech from our division officers then too (not working would draw a mutiny charge).

Many other nations have wound up as military dictatorships when they fail to pay their military troops.

So far, despite the number of times conservatives have stopped the government because they are toddlers when they can’t get their way, our military has remained loyal.

As military members are “essential personnel” for obvious reasons, they stay on the job (without pay).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:11:00pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:11:09pm

“Can’t we just agree to screw the DREAMERS and figure out the rest later?”

- GOP to Dems right now pretty much.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:11:37pm

re: #61 JordanRules

That looks like it might be real, though it’s pretty partisan for the area business. Guess they found their side.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:11:56pm
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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:12:31pm

re: #28 Charles Johnson

I’ve been getting emails about it for quite a while — could be that’s their whole publicity plan (I’m not on twitter, so I can’t say how strange that is or isn’t.)

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:12:35pm

re: #71 Eclectic Cyborg

“Can’t we just agree to screw the DREAMERS and figure out the rest later?”

- GOP to Dems right now pretty much.

That’s pretty much the case. They want Dems to sacrifice the DREAMers and I’m glad the Dems aren’t budging on that point.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:13:19pm

re: #69 Anymouse 🌹

I’m terribly sorry about the RA attack. I hope it resolves soon.

Ah, the second shutdown of 1995, also brought to you by the GOP. I went unpaid in the military until they fixed that nonsense at the end of the first week of January.

We got the “mutiny” speech from our division officers then too (not working would draw a mutiny charge).

Many other nations have wound up as military dictatorships when they fail to pay their military troops.

So far, despite the number of times conservatives have stopped the government because they are toddlers when they can’t get their way, our military has remained loyal.

As military members are “essential personnel” for obvious reasons, they stay on the job (without pay).

So do the 1-200K or so civilians working for DoD and other agencies overseas. (The rules for every shutdown do “evolve”, though.)

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:13:27pm
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JordanRules  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:13:37pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:14:16pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:14:39pm

My wife is watching the live chat over at Vice on the looming shutdown with Senators milling about aimlessly. They currently don’t have a quorum.

A wag comments: “The Art of the Deal in progress.”

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bill d. (b.d.)  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:15:03pm

Wolff on Mahar now is saying that trump is having an affair and that he is surprised that no one has put two and two together from his book.

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dirkdigglerjr  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:15:28pm

re: #73 Backwoods_Sleuth

Maybe she can go on the hunt for Bigfoot as well. Besides, WTF! Pirro is looking for a private citizen?!?!

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JordanRules  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:15:31pm

re: #72 Decatur Deb

It’s real. They do this stuff a lot.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:15:57pm

voting on motion for cloture.
the place is mostly empty.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:16:01pm

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makeitstop  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:16:36pm

re: #81 bill d. (b.d.)

Wolff on Mahar now is saying that trump is having an affair and that he is surprised that no one has put two and two together from his book.

A staffer? A cabinet member?

Maggie Haberman?

/half

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ipsos  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:17:05pm

re: #86 makeitstop

A staffer? A cabinet member?

Maggie Haberman?

/half

Gotta be Hope Hicks. Gotta be.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:17:07pm

re: #68 dirkdigglerjr

This all played out from Trump’s bring me something and I’ll sign it summit, to the deal Butters and Durbin had worked out only to be sandbagged by Miller, Cotton, Goodlatte, etc., and the ensuing “shithole” controversy. In the end, you can only surmise that Kelly thinks a shutdown will work for Trump politically. Otherwise the deal would have been done.

That assumes that Kelly — or anyone in the White House — is organized enough to have a strategy.

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Kragar  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:17:16pm
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JordanRules  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:17:19pm

re: #81 bill d. (b.d.)

Ewww!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:17:22pm

re: #81 bill d. (b.d.)

Wolff on Mahar now is saying that trump is having an affair and that he is surprised that no one has put two and two together from his book.

maybe Hope is steaming more than his pants…

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calochortus  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:17:52pm

re: #85 HappyWarrior

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:18:14pm

re: #86 makeitstop

A staffer? A cabinet member?

Maggie Haberman?

/half

Hope Hicks?

Edit: BWS beat me to it.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:18:22pm

re: #85 HappyWarrior

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sagehen  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:18:28pm

re: #81 bill d. (b.d.)

Wolff on Mahar now is saying that trump is having an affair and that he is surprised that no one has put two and two together from his book.

Did he say with who?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:18:53pm

re: #81 bill d. (b.d.)

Wolff on Mahar now is saying that trump is having an affair and that he is surprised that no one has put two and two together from his book.

Damn it Wolff, don’t tease us.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:18:53pm

re: #86 makeitstop

A staffer? A cabinet member?

Maggie Haberman?

/half

He said that it is covertly alluded to in the last part of the book and now that he mentioned it, it will certainly become obvious?

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JordanRules  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:19:07pm

I do not think it’s Hope. I bet it’s someone that hasn’t had as much attention.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:19:26pm

Yeah I would have guessed Hope too.

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makeitstop  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:19:37pm

re: #87 ipsos

Gotta be Hope Hicks. Gotta be.

My first guess, yeah.

But…damn. Ew.

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calochortus  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:19:53pm

I’m having trouble imagining someone wanting to have an affair with Trump.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:19:55pm

re: #95 sagehen

Did he say with who?

Come now, Wolff’s the soul of discretion.

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Skip Intro  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:20:15pm

re: #91 Backwoods_Sleuth

maybe Hope is steaming more than his pants…

She better be using a lot of starch if you know what I mean.

It does make you wonder how much more public degradation she’s willing to put up with from the pig she married.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:20:20pm

re: #102 Decatur Deb

Come now, Wolff’s the soul of discretion.

Nope. I gotta call you on that one. My sarcasm meter just exploded. By the way, you owe me for a new one.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:20:55pm

re: #98 JordanRules

I do not think it’s Hope. I bet it’s someone that hasn’t had as much attention.

Lindsey Graham. That’s why he’s turned into DT’s yes man.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:21:02pm

re: #87 ipsos

Gotta be Hope Hicks. Gotta be.

Does she also beat his ass with a wrapped up issue of Forbes?

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sagehen  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:21:13pm

I’m gonna guess Kristjen Nielsen.

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Skip Intro  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:21:21pm

re: #101 calochortus

I’m having trouble imagining someone wanting to have an affair with Trump.

M*O*N*E*Y.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:21:22pm

I dunno, Hope makes sense to me since Turmp has this weird thing about going after other people’s women. And yeah I know most of them are married.

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JordanRules  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:21:24pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:21:55pm

Another wag at Vice:

The purge will be televised.

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Kragar  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:21:55pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:22:04pm

re: #110 JordanRules

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calochortus  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:22:13pm

re: #108 Skip Intro

M*O*N*E*Y.

I’d have to be pretty desperate and there’d have to be way more money than I’m worth involved.

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JordanRules  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:22:29pm

re: #105 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

There we go!!
I feared we were suffering from a failure of imagination. Now we’re cooking with gas!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:22:31pm

re: #108 Skip Intro

M*O*N*E*Y.

Money and influence, yup. Of course, the fact that Trump doesn’t even pay people who have a legitimate bill to put in front of him still doesn’t deter them.

re: #109 HappyWarrior

I dunno, Hope makes sense to me since Turmp has this weird thing about going after other people’s women. And yeah I know most of them are married.

That was my thought, too. He seems to be all about screwing women in order to screw over his friends/rivals.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:22:33pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:22:46pm

Lindsey voted no

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:22:49pm

re: #112 Kragar

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They did that the minute they rubber stamped Sessions for approval.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:23:05pm
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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:23:07pm

re: #114 calochortus

I’d have to be pretty desperate and there’d have to be way more money than I’m worth involved.

I don’t think there’s that much money.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:23:51pm

re: #101 calochortus

I’m having trouble imagining someone wanting to have an affair with Trump.

The O’Jays - For The Love of Money (Audio)

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Archangelus  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:23:52pm

My dog, The Hoarse Wisperer’s replies to Judge Jeanine’s latest Hillary obsession activity are brutally epic…

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:24:11pm

re: #92 calochortus

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:24:19pm

re: #115 JordanRules

There we go!!
I feared we were suffering from a failure of imagination. Now we’re cooking with gas!

The RepubliKKKlans are cooking with Ass!

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:24:40pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:24:42pm

re: #109 HappyWarrior

I dunno, Hope makes sense to me since Turmp has this weird thing about going after other people’s women. And yeah I know most of them are married.

Oh, it makes perfect sense if you’re a guy that enjoys power and humiliating others.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:25:02pm

Chance for John McCain to put the bookend on his ACA vote.

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Belafon  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:25:04pm

For all of you who either work for the government, or know someone who does: How do you feel about Democrats holding out in support of Dreamers and CHIP?

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Skip Intro  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:25:07pm

re: #109 HappyWarrior

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dirkdigglerjr  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:25:09pm

re: #88 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

Not saying they have a strategy. And I’m of the mind to shut it all down. Let’s just hope the Dems have made themselves available for the weekend gasbag-fests on the tellies. Call out the phony pres for the wuss that he is. He’s got all three branches of government, and he can’t keep them functioning. Refer to Trump as is His Impotency.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:25:10pm

re: #123 Archangelus

My dog, The Hoarse Wisperer’s replies to Judge Jeanine’s latest Hillary obsession activity are brutally epic…

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Charles Johnson  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:25:15pm

[Can’t find this tweet right now: twitter.com ]

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makeitstop  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:25:20pm

re: #107 sagehen

I’m gonna guess Kristjen Nielsen.

Definitely more his type.

Then again, if Hope put on a blonde wig…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:25:28pm

Hope is also younger, which also seems to be his preference.

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Kragar  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:25:34pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:26:08pm

re: #94 Anymouse 🌹

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Archangelus  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:26:09pm

re: #102 Decatur Deb

Come now, Wolff’s the soul of discretion.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:26:54pm

The thing of it is, even if he is having an affair with a woman in his administration, the right-wing evangelicals will still find a way to excuse him. She probably seduced him, yanno, made him do it, evil vile temptress, he has begged forgiveness and said he’s sorry and it’s alright now.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:27:07pm

re: #129 Belafon

For all of you who either work for the government, or know someone who does: How do you feel about Democrats holding out in support of Dreamers and CHIP?

Fed retiree—

Solidarity Forever.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:27:07pm

re: #135 Eclectic Cyborg

Hope is also younger, which also seems to be his preference.

Is Nielsen even extensively discussed about in the book? Wolff seems to be implying it would be obvious if you read it. Uh want me to throw something really crazy out there but Kellyanne?

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retired cynic  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:27:08pm

OT for the evening, but back over the Cambridge Analytica target: Apparently that mess with Qatar being attacked by everyone in the Middle East, egged on by DT, was a hack job connected to good old Cambridge Analytica. And the Mercers. And probably the Russians. Surprise, surprise.

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calochortus  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:27:24pm

re: #124 HappyWarrior

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:27:45pm

re: #139 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The thing of it is, even if he is having an affair with a woman in his administration, the right-wing evangelicals will still find a way to excuse him. She probably seduced him, yanno, made him do it, evil vile temptress, he has begged forgiveness and said he’s sorry and it’s alright now.

Or YOU LIBS HAD NO PROBEM WHEN BILL CLINTON DDID IT.

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calochortus  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:28:29pm

re: #139 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The thing of it is, even if he is having an affair with a woman in his administration, the right-wing evangelicals will still find a way to excuse him. She probably seduced him, yanno, made him do it, evil vile temptress, he has begged forgiveness and said he’s sorry and it’s alright now.

I can’t imagine Trump asking for forgiveness from anyone. Ever. Evangelicals will excuse it anyway.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:28:31pm

re: #143 calochortus

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:28:33pm

re: #144 HappyWarrior

Or YOU LIBS HAD NO PROBEM WHEN BILL CLINTON DDID IT.

Oh, no, I guarantee they’ll say that. I was trying to come up with a way for them to excuse it, but you’re right, they’ll probably just try to deflect.

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Skip Intro  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:28:36pm

re: #139 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

They’d forgive him for banging his daughter. It’s biblical, after all, so what’s to forgive anyway?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:28:45pm

neither side is going to get 60 votes.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:28:56pm

re: #145 calochortus

I can’t imagine Trump asking for forgiveness from anyone. Ever. Evangelicals will excuse it anyway.

I never said he actually asked for forgiveness. They’ll just assume he did, and since God forgave him, it’s all good now, right?

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Belafon  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:29:12pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:29:19pm

Dipshit commentator over at Vice:

“The military is still getting paid, stupid libs! Trump Trump Trump”

followed by a pile on of military and dependents telling him he’s an idiot, no they’re not.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:29:31pm

re: #145 calochortus

I can’t imagine Trump asking for forgiveness from anyone. Ever. Evangelicals will excuse it anyway.

He wouldn’t have to ask, they’d be falling all over themselves to do it.

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calochortus  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:29:49pm

re: #150 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I never said he actually asked for forgiveness. They’ll just assume he did, and since God forgave him, it’s all good now, right?

Right.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:30:25pm

re: #145 calochortus

I can’t imagine Trump asking for forgiveness from anyone. Ever. Evangelicals will excuse it anyway.

Nothing will stop Evangelicals from endlessly kissing Trump’s ass.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:30:30pm

These “reporters” are just embarassing.
The vote is on cloture, to limit debate and bring the CR bill up for a vote.

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MsJ  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:30:46pm

re: #100 makeitstop

My first guess, yeah.

But…damn. Ew.

Cabaret- Money

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Charles Johnson  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:30:57pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:31:04pm

re: #150 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I never said he actually asked for forgiveness. They’ll just assume he did, and since God forgave him, it’s all good now, right?

They already said that. Help me out those who lived it and would have known Reagan from his acting years but was Reagan’s suddenly talking the religious right’s language just as amusing to you as Trump doing so? My personal belief is the religious right are either easily conned or will overlook someone not really being a believer in their bs as long as they give them what they want which is what Reagan and now Trump have given the RR. Likewise, they detest people like Carter and Obama and Hillary Clinton who actually do understand scripture and religious tradition.

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calochortus  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:31:16pm

re: #153 Eclectic Cyborg

He wouldn’t have to ask, they’d be falling all over themselves to do it.

I shouldn’t think it would be their forgiveness he needed. More like God’s, or woman’s husband (‘cause she would be married, wouldn’t she?)

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Archangelus  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:31:23pm

Tempted to add that blaming Nazis is equally fitting in this case as well, but that might be pushing it…

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MsJ  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:31:46pm

re: #101 calochortus

I’m having trouble imagining someone wanting to have an affair with Trump.

Oops. The above was meant as a response to you.

Cabaret- Money

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JordanRules  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:32:14pm

re: #141 HappyWarrior

KellyAnn doesn’t seem that far fetched to me.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:32:29pm

Meanwhile the Presstitutes are still snorting the Magic Both Sides Fairy Dust.

We’re fucked…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:32:42pm

re: #163 JordanRules

KellyAnn doesn’t seem that far fetched to me.

gross, yet not far fetched

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:32:46pm

re: #129 Belafon

For all of you who either work for the government, or know someone who does: How do you feel about Democrats holding out in support of Dreamers and CHIP?

Disabled vet. All in favour of holding out. The GOP is holding them hostage. This is all on the GOP, like all the other shutdowns.

They need to pay a price for this, and the electorate needs to be made aware of it.

I noted to everyone I could around here a couple days ago that they should not buy magic balance fairy arguments or that it’s the Dems fault. It was quite a screed; another vet asked me if he could put it up on his Facebook page.

I told him “sure, as long as you are prepared for incoming derp from conservatives and foreign rodent copulators.”

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:33:14pm

re: #159 HappyWarrior

They already said that. Help me out those who lived it and would have known Reagan from his acting years but was Reagan’s suddenly talking the religious right’s language just as amusing to you as Trump doing so? My personal belief is the religious right are either easily conned or will overlook someone not really being a believer in their bs as long as they give them what they want which is what Reagan and now Trump have given the RR. Likewise, they detest people like Carter and Obama and Hillary Clinton who actually do understand scripture and religious tradition.

The bolded part is really what it comes down to. God, Guns, Abortion is not just a phrase. Really, anyone can get votes from evangelicals as long as they talk a convincing game, even if they are completely full of shit and hypocritical as Stan himself.

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dirkdigglerjr  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:33:20pm

re: #139 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Have a very good friend, practically a brother. He is a part-time minister and puritanically anti-choice. He overlooks the rest of Trump’s misdeeds on this one issue alone. And in a county where 75 percent of the folks voted for Trump, there are many more like my friend.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:33:31pm

re: #163 JordanRules

KellyAnn doesn’t seem that far fetched to me.

I caught a snippet of her earlier claiming that “Trump is like me, he’s a counterpuncher.” I dunno. I admit I just threw her name out there since no one had brought her up.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:33:49pm

Washington Post is calling it.

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calochortus  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:34:04pm

re: #162 MsJ

Oops. The above was meant as a response to you.

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Like I said, I’d have to be pretty desperate, and I’d bet most of the women I know would feel the same, but then most of the women I know have a reasonable amount of self esteem as well.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:34:07pm

re: #129 Belafon

For all of you who either work for the government, or know someone who does: How do you feel about Democrats holding out in support of Dreamers and CHIP?

Me?

You saw my post.

We’ve been told that we can take no leave.

We have a bunch of folks who were out sick with the flu and they will have to come to work on Monday…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:34:15pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:34:33pm

re: #158 Charles Johnson

Price is right losing horn

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JordanRules  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:34:47pm
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FormerDirtDart  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:35:02pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:35:10pm

re: #167 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The bolded part is really what it comes down to. God, Guns, Abortion is not just a phrase. Really, anyone can get votes from evangelicals as long as they talk a convincing game, even if they are completely full of shit and hypocritical as Stan himself.

So your opinion having grown up in the community that it’s more cynical than actually believing that Trump or Ronnie before him actually believes in Christ and all that but as long as he does their biding. I tend to agree especially for people like Franklin Graham, Falwell Jr, and the prominent Evangelicals. I do think it’s more naivete on the lower level from people who are influenced by people like those guys.

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MsJ  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:35:17pm

re: #135 Eclectic Cyborg

Hope is also younger, which also seems to be his preference.

She’s not blonde.

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Renaissance_Man  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:35:22pm

re: #168 dirkdigglerjr

Have a very good friend, practically a brother. He is a part-time minister and puritanically anti-choice. He overlooks the rest of Trump’s misdeeds on this one issue alone. And in a county where 75 percent of the folks voted for Trump, there are many more like my friend.

Even if the Democratic candidate were the most hardline anti-abortion zealot ever, they would still find a reason that the Republican was the ‘godly’ candidate. Their mouthings about religion are nothing more than empty words, and their rationalisations only an excuse to vote for fascists.

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Cheechako  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:35:44pm

re: #140 Decatur Deb

Fed retiree—

Solidarity Forever.

X 2

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:35:46pm

re: #159 HappyWarrior

They already said that. Help me out those who lived it and would have known Reagan from his acting years but was Reagan’s suddenly talking the religious right’s language just as amusing to you as Trump doing so? My personal belief is the religious right are either easily conned or will overlook someone not really being a believer in their bs as long as they give them what they want which is what Reagan and now Trump have given the RR. Likewise, they detest people like Carter and Obama and Hillary Clinton who actually do understand scripture and religious tradition.

Paul Wyrich, a Dominionist, is the person who led Evangelicals from a position of being generally apolitical to overwhelmingly supporting the GOP. Wyrich thought that they could more effectively push their brand of Christianity into law by supporting the GOP than supporting Carter.

Though Carter is an Evangelical himself, he firmly believes in keeping religion out of secular government.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:35:52pm

re: #175 JordanRules

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Kragar  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:36:11pm
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teleskiguy  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:36:38pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:36:59pm

Vote is 50 aye, 48 nay
McConnell has not voted and McCain isn’t there.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:37:06pm

re: #176 FormerDirtDart

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allegro  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:37:06pm

re: #135 Eclectic Cyborg

Hope is also younger, which also seems to be his preference.

Didn’t he say she was like a daughter to him?

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retired cynic  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:37:53pm

re: #178 MsJ

She’s not blonde.

Neither is Melania. (And, it appears, neither is Ivana or DT himself, really.)

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:38:04pm

re: #181 Anymouse 🌹

Paul Wyrich, a Dominionist, is the person who led Evangelicals from a position of being generally apolitical to overwhelmingly supporting the GOP. Wyrich thought that they could more effectively push their brand of Christianity into law by supporting the GOP than supporting Carter.

Though Carter is an Evangelical himself, he firmly believes in keeping religion out of secular government.

Sam Bee talked once about how it was busing not Roe that really got them going. The racist roots of Evangelicals in politics can’t be ignored here. William Jennings Bryan, yeah I’m predating Reagan even here was a KKK defender. I’m glad the party went in the Al Smith/FDR direction in regards to secularism.

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teleskiguy  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:38:05pm
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MsJ  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:38:14pm

re: #163 JordanRules

KellyAnn doesn’t seem that far fetched to me.

No way. She looks like the cryptkeeper. Trump wouldn’t fuck her with Jared’s Dick.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:38:37pm

re: #177 HappyWarrior

So your opinion having grown up in the community that it’s more cynical than actually believing that Trump or Ronnie before him actually believes in Christ and all that but as long as he does their biding. I tend to agree especially for people like Franklin Graham, Falwell Jr, and the prominent Evangelicals. I do think it’s more naivete on the lower level from people who are influenced by people like those guys.

Yeah, it’s not quite as simplistic as it appears on the surface, but you’ve basically nailed it. When you think about it, the people below the head honchos are basically just sheep; brainwashed and indoctrinated, they do whatever their evangelical guides tell them to do, as long as it’s couched in the right religious mumbo-jumbo. In the meantime, the religious superpowers are only focusing on the one pet issue that bugs evangelical teachers more than anything else: ABORTION. Get that right, and you’ve got the power of God on your side, no matter how completely un-Christian your life is. And then that trickles down to the rank and file filling the pews every Sunday via the information bubble of the Bible belt.

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JordanRules  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:38:42pm

LOL

Pitiful

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Frenchy  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:40:05pm

re: #165 Backwoods_Sleuth

Sorry but the thought of Trump having sex with *anyone*, let alone KellyAnne, is gross af.

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MsJ  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:40:20pm

re: #171 calochortus

Like I said, I’d have to be pretty desperate, and I’d bet most of the women I know would feel the same, but then most of the women I know have a reasonable amount of self esteem as well.

There’s no level of desperation I can imagine.

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JordanRules  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:40:24pm

re: #191 MsJ

I don’t think his evil ass is pulling like he used to.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:40:56pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:41:01pm

I hope the shutdown doesn’t last long and I feel sorry for the folks who will be impacted the most but is exactly what an asshole like Trump deserves. Another huge and epic fail.

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teleskiguy  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:41:21pm

re: #193 JordanRules

Giphy

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:41:54pm

gaaaaaaaaahhh

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majii  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:41:58pm

When is AF-1 taking off for Mar-A-Lago?

I should be ashamed of myself, but I’m not. I’d like to be fly on the wall in the WH right about now.

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JordanRules  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:42:16pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:42:23pm

re: #192 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The other thing to remember, too - and this was pointed out upthread - is that it’s not just getting it right on abortion. It is possible for a Democrat to win the approval of the evangelicals over a Republican, but because the Republicans made a conscious choice to court the religious right, they have a much lower bar to clear. It makes it so much more complicated in places where the line between Democrat and Republican is blurred or even reversed.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:42:24pm

re: #197 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Law’s the law but I can’t help but to find some humor in this given that I bet Rand and his Dad probably would find that law unconstitutional because it’s NOT IN THE CONSTITUTION.

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Archangelus  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:42:55pm

re: #163 JordanRules

KellyAnn doesn’t seem that far fetched to me.

*Processes that notion, mental image arises accordingly *

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Skip Intro  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:43:17pm

re: #201 majii

When is AF-1 taking off for Mar-A-Lago?

I should be ashamed of myself, but I’m not. I’d like to be fly on the wall in the WH right about now.

Three hours ago probably.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:43:21pm
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Decatur Deb  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:43:34pm

re: #201 majii

When is AF-1 taking off for Mar-A-Lago?

I should be ashamed of myself, but I’m not. I’d like to be fly on the wall in the WH right about now.

Half of them are so stupid they’ll think this is a victory.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:43:49pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:44:03pm

re: #189 HappyWarrior

Sam Bee talked once about how it was busing not Roe that really got them going. The racist roots of Evangelicals in politics can’t be ignored here. William Jennings Bryan, yeah I’m predating Reagan even here was a KKK defender. I’m glad the party went in the Al Smith/FDR direction in regards to secularism.

Yup. Wyrich helped weld the White Citizen’s Councils and their anti-integration stance (a large part made up of evangelicals) into the Council of Conservative Citizens (the motivation for the AME church shooting in Charleston).

The Southern Baptist Convention originally did not care about Roe: They included in their platform at the time that abortion was an issue on conscience for individual Southern Baptists and was “a Catholic problem.” Wyrich was the guy who saw that as a means to power in the GOP for Evangelicals.

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Belafon  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:44:56pm

re: #193 JordanRules

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Skip Intro  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:45:46pm

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:46:10pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:46:25pm

And what did the Republicans find behind the Blackmail Door?

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makeitstop  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:47:02pm

re: #178 MsJ

She’s not blonde.

That’s what wigs are for…

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dirkdigglerjr  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:47:19pm

re: #179 Renaissance_Man

It’s also inherent racism. My county is 4 percent African-American, but folks are always talking about “them” taking over. Each day I pass by a shotgun house with a Trump flag flying. These people have no education, believe everything Faux News tells them, and vote based on god, guns, gays, blacks, and abortion.

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Belafon  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:47:30pm

re: #215 makeitstop

That’s what wigs are for…

They’re all blonde when the blindfold’s tied on.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:47:32pm

re: #203 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The other thing to remember, too - and this was pointed out upthread - is that it’s not just getting it right on abortion. It is possible for a Democrat to win the approval of the evangelicals over a Republican, but because the Republicans made a conscious choice to court the religious right, they have a much lower bar to clear. It makes it so much more complicated in places where the line between Democrat and Republican is blurred or even reversed.

TBH from the outside looking in, I was shocked how rapidly they embraced Trump as one of their own. I thought there’d be that residing mistrust we saw with McCain and Romney but then again he won and I’m sure had they won, they’d embrace them too.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:47:53pm
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Decatur Deb  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:48:24pm

NYT website headline:

Senate Democrats Kill Bill to Keep Government Open Past Midnight

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:48:52pm

re: #219 Backwoods_Sleuth

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It’s his party and he’s gonna cry when he wants to.

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makeitstop  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:49:21pm

re: #191 MsJ

No way. She looks like the cryptkeeper. Trump wouldn’t fuck her with Jared’s Dick.

That’s what Ivanka masks are for. Heh.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:49:37pm

According to my wife, several conservatives commenting at Vice:

What is this talk of a shutdown?

Why isn’t FOX News reporting on the shutdown issue?

Several people over there are gently instructing them on what’s going on, while reminding them FOX is not news.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:49:47pm
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Single-handed sailor  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:50:35pm

re: #220 Decatur Deb

NYT website headline:

Senate Democrats Kill Bill to Keep Government Open Past Midnight

Gray Lady down.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:51:04pm
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Kragar  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:51:28pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:51:30pm

re: #218 HappyWarrior

TBH from the outside looking in, I was shocked how rapidly they embraced Trump as one of their own. I thought there’d be that residing mistrust we saw with McCain and Romney but then again he won and I’m sure had they won, they’d embrace them too.

Yup. The lapdogs always fall into line to embrace the winner. If you remember, the evangelicals actually sincerely doubted Trump for a moment - just a moment - revolving around the claims which almost caused the GOP to abandon him. But their faith in him was restored when he righted the ship, and rewarded when he won.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:52:27pm

Do conservatives and their croc tears at CHIP realize taking away DACA will hurt kids too? I hate that we’re having a shutdown but you know what I hate just as much the indifference the GOP has on Dreamers and if CHIP was as important as their crocodile tears maker out to be, they would have extended it.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:52:29pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:52:34pm

re: #220 Decatur Deb

NYT website headline:

Senate Democrats Kill Bill to Keep Government Open Past Midnight

That “liberal” paper which famously supported Adolph Hitler and Benito Mussolini.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:52:54pm
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Decatur Deb  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:53:02pm

Used to be the highlight of Sunday mornings. Fuck them.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:53:20pm

re: #231 Anymouse 🌹

That “liberal” paper which famously supported Adolph Hitler and Benito Mussolini.

Once again the Screw York Times kisses Republican ass!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:53:29pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:53:43pm

re: #228 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Yup. The lapdogs always fall into line to embrace the winner. If you remember, the evangelicals actually sincerely doubted Trump for a moment - just a moment - revolving around the claims which almost caused the GOP to abandon him. But their faith in him was restored when he righted the ship, and rewarded when he won.

So basically had Trump lost, he’d be another persona non grata to them?

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Kragar  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:53:45pm
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The Major  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:53:47pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:54:17pm

re: #226 Backwoods_Sleuth

I wish Joy Ann Reid wouldn’t use the racist/conservative dogwhistle “chain migration.”

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makeitstop  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:55:15pm

re: #217 Belafon

They’re all blonde Ivanka when the blindfold’s tied on.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:55:25pm

re: #236 HappyWarrior

So basically had Trump lost, he’d be another persona non grata to them?

Ayup. He might be a fallen hero for a while, but eventually he’d just be an unspoken secret while they quietly searched for a real winner.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:56:11pm

re: #238 The Major

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Well, Zaphod Donald, he’s just this guy, you know?

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nowherenorth2  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:56:29pm

The new York Times are saying the democrats pushed for the shut down of the government.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:56:45pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:56:52pm

re: #241 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Ayup. He might be a fallen hero for a while, but eventually he’d just be an unspoken secret while they quietly searched for a real winner.

They seem to like winners- Reagan, W Bush, & Trump. HW I think they saw as just being a beneficiary of Reagan’s successes?

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nowherenorth2  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:57:34pm

Awesome reporting

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:57:36pm

re: #245 HappyWarrior

They seem to like winners- Reagan, W Bush, & Trump. HW I think they saw as just being a beneficiary of Reagan’s successes?

They’re like sleazy lawyers. They don’t take cases they know they can’t win.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:58:05pm

LA Times Goes Union: Gross Harrassey Publisher Goes Straight to Hell (goes to Wonkette)

The National Labor Relations Board certified a 5-1 vote in favour of unionising the Los Angeles Times. The management did everything they could to get workers to vote against that, claiming all sorts of horrendous things would happen, a union would not protect them, &c.

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dirkdigglerjr  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:59:03pm

re: #244 Backwoods_Sleuth

He’s going to fire one up and invite his Russian and Holocaust-denying buddies to come over?

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Citizen K  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:59:17pm

Anyone remember how the NYT reported the last shutdown? Because I’m damn sure they didn’t proclaim Repubs outright were the ones behind it.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:59:21pm

re: #241 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Ayup. He might be a fallen hero for a while, but eventually he’d just be an unspoken secret while they quietly searched for a real winner.

While the search for the “true conservative” continued and everyone tries to claim “the party left me, I didn’t leave the party.”

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nines09  Jan 19, 2018 • 7:59:32pm
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bill d. (b.d.)  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:00:10pm

I bet we get a few day temp. deal to avert the shutdown tomorrow just so Trump can go to his party.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:00:17pm
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dirkdigglerjr  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:02:48pm

re: #248 Anymouse 🌹

Having worked for non-union newspapers for over 20 years during the “good” times, I cannot tell you how much we were exploited for minimal wages while the publishing families made bank.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:03:17pm

re: #229 HappyWarrior

Yes, they do. This is all in bad faith.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:03:33pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:04:37pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:04:40pm

re: #257 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Keep on digging that grave Fredo!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:04:40pm

re: #250 Citizen K

Anyone remember how the NYT reported the last shutdown? Because I’m damn sure they didn’t proclaim Repubs outright were the ones behind it.

I remember how the Screw York Times covered the last shutdown, blaming Cruz when it was going down. And when the shutdown ended the Screw York Times bashed Obama over the bungled startup of the Insurance exchanges.

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DodgerFan1988  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:04:43pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:05:12pm

re: #257 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Standard practice. To meet with agents of a FOREIGN FUCKING GOVERNMENT who, while not at open war with us, would nonetheless love to see us bent over and grabbing our ankles. Are you FUCKING STUPID.

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meteor  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:05:22pm

re: #257 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yipes, did Dumb-ass just admit it?

Oh my God. I’m laughing so hard, I’m gonna cry.

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The Major  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:05:54pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:05:59pm

re: #263 meteor

Yipes, did Dumb-ass just admit it?

Oh my God. I’m laughing so hard, I’m gonna cry.

I know! I’m dying here.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:06:38pm

re: #258 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Translation: Somebody snatched his phone and locked it in the drawer.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:07:35pm

re: #263 meteor

Yipes, did Dumb-ass just admit it?

Oh my God. I’m laughing so hard, I’m gonna cry.

It sounds like FOX and (which one is he, Uday or Qusay) is trying to prime their conservative audience into believing that would be normal behaviour for a campaign.

Thus if Mueller goes after them for this, it is a “witch hunt” by liberals.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:08:05pm

re: #267 Anymouse 🌹

It sounds like FOX and (which one is he, Uday or Qusay) is trying to prime their conservative audience into believing that would be normal behaviour for a campaign.

Thus if Mueller goes after them for this, it is a “witch hunt” by liberals.

Heh. Reminds me of a nickname I gave one of my more problematic clients: Tweedledee and Tweedledumbass.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:08:10pm

re: #264 The Major

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If you cared about CHIP, why didn’t you extend it? Oh and kids on CHIP have DREAMer parents.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:08:41pm

re: #257 Backwoods_Sleuth

According to Trump Jr., his meeting with Russians who wanted to help his father’s campaign was “standard practice in a campaign.” I’m not kidding.

Is the Trump family trying to plead that they’re incompetent to participate in their own defense?

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Charles Johnson  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:08:50pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:10:51pm

Well, it’s official: If this isn’t fixed by 1 Feb, I am now not getting paid.

Several disabled veterans now on that Vice chat my wife is participating in are weighing in with concerns due to lack of saved money.

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electrotek  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:10:59pm

Fucking Republicans continue to drag the USD into decline with their looming threat of a fucking government shutdown.

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meteor  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:11:36pm

MSNBC guy now saying McConnell is the only one who still hasn’t voted.

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meteor  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:12:08pm

Here’s a happy story, to smile about.

bbc.com

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Belafon  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:12:18pm

re: #264 The Major

I missed the part where CHIP funding was in the bill.

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The Major  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:12:26pm

re: #274 meteor

MSNBC guy now saying McConnell is the only one who still hasn’t voted.

And this surprises you, how ?

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Kragar  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:12:41pm
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Decatur Deb  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:12:53pm

re: #274 meteor

MSNBC guy now saying McConnell is the only one who still hasn’t voted.

Parliamentary ploy?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:13:13pm

re: #278 Kragar

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Lol the buck never stops here.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:13:32pm

Night Lizardim.

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meteor  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:13:46pm

re: #277 The Major

I guess he may as well get it over with.

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jaunte  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:14:06pm
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makeitstop  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:14:22pm

re: #279 Decatur Deb

Parliamentary ploy?

Is it an official result if not everyone votes?

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:14:29pm

fox talkings heads spinning how you know how the democrats are masters at messaging and they have the media on their side so they’ll make it look like it’s not their fault

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:15:02pm

re: #274 meteor

MSNBC guy now saying McConnell is the only one who still hasn’t voted.

He hasn’t
Neither has McCain, but McCain isn’t there.
McConnell isn’t even on the Senate floor right now.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:15:04pm

re: #283 jaunte

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Exactly. Their own caucus wasn’t united in this.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:15:53pm

re: #284 makeitstop

Is it an official result if not everyone votes?

Dunno. Might buy time. There are weird maneuvers that can make Midnight not Midnight, IIRC.

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The Major  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:16:12pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:16:42pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:17:13pm

re: #289 The Major

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I suppose Sweet Child Of Mine wont be playing next time Donald sees Ivanka.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:17:30pm

re: #279 Decatur Deb

Parliamentary ploy?

McConnell’s aye vote would only give them 51 and they need 60.

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The Major  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:18:36pm

re: #291 HappyWarrior

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DodgerFan1988  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:18:39pm

re: #285 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

fox talkings heads spinning how you know how the democrats are masters at messaging and they have the media on their side so they’ll make it look like it’s not their fault

The media on their side?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:19:13pm
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Citizen K  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:19:45pm

re: #283 jaunte

It seems to be law where US politics is concerned that, to be a Democrat is to be considered to blame for everything, and to be a Republican is to never be to blame for anything.

Sadly, NYT probably won’t be the only ones treading this line.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:20:20pm

Remember kids:

If the government shuts down under a Democratic President, it’s the Democrats fault.

If the government shuts down under a Republican President, Senate and House, it’s the Democrats fault.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:20:21pm

re: #284 makeitstop

Is it an official result if not everyone votes?

Yes, normally votes are timed, and if a vote is not cast it is counted as an abstention or absent.

This vote is not timed, and a bunch of senators are in the cloak room right now (where there are no C-SPAN cameras). I imagine a whole lot of arm-twisting is going on out of sight.

McConnell by virtue of not yet voting could also pull the bill.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:20:25pm
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Belafon  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:21:31pm

re: #284 makeitstop

Is it an official result if not everyone votes?

I was going to write that the rules are written so that if he doesn’t vote for it, he can bring it up again later, but, thinking about it, he’s probably not voting to keep the vote open.

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The Major  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:21:42pm

re: #294 DodgerFan1988

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jaunte  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:21:53pm

Meanwhile heavy media coverage of Trump voters in Iowa still convinced he’s playing 3D chess.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:22:23pm

master negotiator negotiates four gop senators voting against him

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Belafon  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:22:41pm

re: #290 Anymouse 🌹

I wish twitter allowed us to pin other people’s tweets.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:23:20pm

The CT about the “worst than Watergate” memo is not restricted to US wingnuts. The Epoch Times is an expat Chinese media outfit closely associated with the Falun Gong movement (China’s government calls it a cult, and it’s banned on the mainland.) They tweeted this BS out.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:23:35pm

re: #292 Backwoods_Sleuth

McConnell’s aye vote would only give them 51 and they need 60.

I vaguely remember other instances of bullshit CR drama that allows them to work the clock.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:24:09pm

I’m behind 124 posts!!

Tom Petty playing.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:25:15pm
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jaunte  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:25:19pm

re: #305 wheat-dogg

Dianne Feinstein has just shown them how to release a memo. What are they waiting for?

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Skip Intro  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:25:35pm

They’re waiting for you Donald.

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TedStriker  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:25:51pm

re: #220 Decatur Deb

NYT website headline:

Senate Democrats Kill Bill to Keep Government Open Past Midnight

re: #225 Single-handed sailor

Gray Lady down.

The Gray Lady is turning tricks in front of Trump Tower.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:26:10pm

i’ve got an even better yiddish word than tweety’s “mishegas”, crazyness

“forblunget” - lost, confused, and screwed up

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teleskiguy  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:26:39pm

ugh

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Kragar  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:27:16pm

re: #309 jaunte

Dianne Feinstein has just shown them how to release a memo. What are they waiting for?

Actual evidence of the shit they’ve been hinting about.

Might take a while.
/

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majii  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:27:32pm

re: #280 HappyWarrior

“Lol the buck never stops here.:”

Now, Happy, we both know the buck always stops on anyone else except Trump. LOL

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jaunte  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:27:42pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:27:46pm

re: #268 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Heh. Reminds me of a nickname I gave one of my more problematic clients: Tweedledee and Tweedledumbass.

Reminds me of the joke about the Witt Brothers—Half, Dim and Nit from an old Ritz Brothers short…

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Belafon  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:28:08pm

re: #310 Skip Intro

They’re waiting for you Donald.

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I absolutely love older women (hence my joke in the previous thread about me and Helen Mirren). But they look…fake.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:28:19pm

re: #311 TedStriker

The Gray Lady is turning tricks in front of Trump Tower.

Wondered why the NYT bought a copy of Forbes.

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MsJ  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:28:28pm

re: #310 Skip Intro

They’re waiting for you Donald.

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That’s a lot of facelifts right there.

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jaunte  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:29:13pm

re: #310 Skip Intro

Looks like a scene from Brazil.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:29:37pm

re: #310 Skip Intro

They’re waiting for you Donald.

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And every one of them has a fantasy of smacking Trump on the ass with a rolled up copy of the Neiman Marcus catalog…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:30:03pm
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TedStriker  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:30:09pm

re: #271 Charles Johnson

So perfect that on the 1-year anniversary of his inauguration, the Trump-thing has driven the US government into a shutdown.

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 20, 2018

This is what you voted for, Trump fans: an incompetent narcissistic loon who can’t even do the bare minimum to keep the federal government functioning.

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 20, 2018

For many Trumpsters, it’s a feature, not a bug.

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DodgerFan1988  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:30:19pm
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makeitstop  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:31:32pm

re: #320 MsJ

That’s a lot of facelifts right there.

What’s with the severed head hanging from the one woman’s arm?

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majii  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:33:09pm

re: #320 MsJ

“That’s a lot of facelifts right there.”

I’m an older female, and there’s nothing I hate more than seeing women in my age group trying to pass themselves off as twenty-somethings. UGH.

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Kragar  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:35:02pm
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plansbandc  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:35:50pm

Watching Depeche Mode: The Dark Progression.

Way WAY better than paying attention to the dumbass Republicans and their dumbass Government shut down.

Did I mention they’re dumbasses? Because they are.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:36:22pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:37:34pm
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majii  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:39:33pm

re: #331 Charles Johnson

“President Trump Is Having an Affair ‘Right Now,’ Michael Wolff Tells Bill Maher”

Maybe this could explain why he has a separate bedroom from Melania’s.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:39:46pm

GOP kabuki theatre mode: Activate!

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austin_blue  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:39:50pm

No doubt money is involved.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:40:48pm
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Citizen K  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:41:08pm

The ghost of Ron Fournier still lingers.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:41:14pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:42:37pm

re: #337 Anymouse 🌹

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He would know. He’s pretty stupid himself.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:43:34pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:45:51pm

re: #331 Charles Johnson

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Yes and it’s probably between him and his $10,000 customized sex doll…

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Decatur Deb  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:46:37pm

It’s coming up on Midnight, EST. Will they lower a lighted replica of Trump’s putter from the Washington Monument?

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electrotek  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:47:58pm

HOLY SHIT!

I can’t fucking believe this! I finally won a car through the auctions in Japan. One I’ve been salivating over for such a long time, and it will FINALLY be here soon!

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MsJ  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:48:00pm

re: #326 makeitstop

What’s with the severed head hanging from the one woman’s arm?

Uhm…I got nothing. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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retired cynic  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:49:12pm

re: #342 electrotek

HOLY SHIT!

I can’t fucking believe this! I finally won a car through the auctions in Japan. One I’ve been salivating over for such a long time, and it will FINALLY be here soon!

Explain?

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VegasGolfer  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:49:18pm

re: #342 electrotek

HOLY SHIT!

I can’t fucking believe this! I finally won a car through the auctions in Japan. One I’ve been salivating over for such a long time, and it will FINALLY be here soon!

What a tease😀. What kind is it?

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The Major  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:49:34pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:49:59pm

re: #339 Backwoods_Sleuth

Military personnel do not get paid. The Post Office is privately-run and is not affected by a shutdown. She has that wrong.

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electrotek  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:50:10pm

re: #345 VegasGolfer

What a tease😀. What kind is it?

I’ll give you guys two clues. It’s a Toyota sedan but widely known as a drift missile.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:50:24pm
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teleskiguy  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:50:46pm

re: #342 electrotek

IT’S A MAJOR AWARD!

Giphy

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:51:08pm

November can’t come soon enough, so here’s a bit o’ the Pogues to tide us by ‘til then

The Pogues - House of the Gods

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Citizen K  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:51:24pm
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The Major  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:52:01pm

re: #342 electrotek

And how are ya going to get it shipped to you ?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:52:35pm
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electrotek  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:52:41pm

re: #344 retired cynic

Explain?

I’ve been checking out the Japanese auctions in the past year since I sold my TDI back to VW (hence why I’ve been asking if anyone here is proficient in Japanese lol) to seek out a car that I can bring to the states from Japan as long as it’s 25 years old or older to ensure it is federally legal. And it goes down to the month and year of manufacture in order to be legal to import.

I can’t fucking believe this is happening. A car that I’ve lusted over since the Gran Turismo days, will finally be in my driveway by next month!

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wheat-dogg  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:52:58pm

Watching this drama unfold from thousands of miles away is interesting. I know it’s a serious matter, but it’s also vaguely humorous watching the World’s Greatest Nation™ trip over its own feet. Again.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:53:07pm

re: #352 Citizen K

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Yep their bias is showing.

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electrotek  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:53:35pm

re: #353 The Major

And how are ya going to get it shipped to you ?

RORO shipping via sea freight, the cheapest and most economical way to do so. Container shipping is WAY too expensive for a single car. I’d have to load up two vehicles plus a plethora of automotive parts in a 20 foot container to be economically viable.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:54:18pm

Meanwhile back in Trump’s Presidential Bedroom…

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wheat-dogg  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:54:43pm

re: #355 electrotek

I’ve been checking out the Japanese auctions in the past year since I sold my TDI back to VW (hence why I’ve been asking if anyone here is proficient in Japanese lol) to seek out a car that I can bring to the states from Japan as long as it’s 25 years old or older to ensure it is federally legal. And it goes down to the month and year of manufacture in order to be legal to import.

I can’t fucking believe this is happening. A car that I’ve lusted over since the Gran Turismo days, will finally be in my driveway by next month!

You got photos of this mythical beast to share? Will Jay Leno die of envy?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:55:12pm
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retired cynic  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:55:22pm

re: #355 electrotek

I hope it is a good one!

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The Major  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:56:30pm
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De Kolta Chair  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:58:05pm

Dada or nada? You decide.

Jeremy Nguyen
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The Ghost of a Flea  Jan 19, 2018 • 8:59:14pm

re: #361 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I realize it’s just technicality, but “wine bottles” doesn’t necessarily include wine in the bottles.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:00:56pm

Trump’s putter is apparently dropping now… .

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electrotek  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:01:02pm

re: #360 wheat-dogg

You got photos of this mythical beast to share? Will Jay Leno die of envy?

It’s not a Toyota 2000GT Convertible sadly so he won’t die of envy sadly.

Here’s photos of it from the JU Nara auctionhouse. It’s a 1993 Toyota Mark 2 Tourer V:

Japanese auction inspection report

It has 79,000 km’s and it is BONE-STOCK! And I got it for a killer price too! 388,000¥!!!! First thing I’m going to have done is a manual transmission swap since the auto’s are pieces of junk and takes the fun out of the car. The car is ready for export thanks to its January ‘93 build date so it will be federally legal!

Holy shit I’m still in shock lol

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:01:14pm

Looks like about 30 Senators huddled around Schumer right now.

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DodgerFan1988  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:02:40pm
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TedStriker  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:04:26pm

re: #367 electrotek

It’s not a Toyota 2000GT Convertible sadly so he won’t die of envy sadly.

Here’s photos of it from the JU Nara auctionhouse. It’s a 1993 Toyota Mark 2 Tourer V:

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It has 79,000 km’s and it is BONE-STOCK! And I got it for a killer price too! 388,000¥!!!! First thing I’m going to have done is a manual transmission swap since the auto’s are pieces of junk and takes the fun out of the car. The car is ready for export thanks to its January ‘93 build date so it will be federally legal!

Holy shit I’m still in shock lol

They could’ve at least detailed the interior…it’s a bit nasty inside, but it looks good on the outside and sounds like a good deal.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:05:47pm

Tom Petty And The Heartbreakers - The Waiting

I’m having a wonderful night listening to all of it.

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fern01  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:07:30pm

re: #352 Citizen K

NYT reporting
With President Obama - democrats did not have the votes
With President* trump - the democrats shut down the government

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fern01  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:07:59pm

re: #354 Backwoods_Sleuth

Probably means trump welcomes a shutdown

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Dave In Austin  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:09:49pm

re: #340 Joe Bacon 🌹

Yes and it’s probably between him and his $10,000 customized sex doll…

Rage Tweet Doll

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Broad With Sass  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:10:38pm

re: #85 HappyWarrior

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:17:36pm

trumpre: #50 Archangelus

Oddly enough, “Fuck Nunes” just happens to be Melania’s safe words.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 10:55:45pm

re: #130 Skip Intro

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sagehen  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:22:18pm

re: #367 electrotek

It has 79,000 km’s and it is BONE-STOCK! And I got it for a killer price too! 388,000¥!!!! First thing I’m going to have done is a manual transmission swap since the auto’s are pieces of junk and takes the fun out of the car. The car is ready for export thanks to its January ‘93 build date so it will be federally legal!

Holy shit I’m still in shock lol

So 48K miles… but what’s 388,000¥ in $$?


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