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SpaceJesus  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:00:07pm

Does the Constitution still have that provision where if the government shuts down and you control Congress you get automatically impeached?

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Charles Johnson  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:00:49pm
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meteor  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:01:22pm

O hai! A shutdown, u can has it!

MSNBC clock just zeroed out.

They’re gonna put up a “time since the shutdown” clock soon.

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makeitstop  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:01:46pm

re: #1 SpaceJesus

Does the Constitution still have that provision where if the government shuts down and you control Congress you get automatically impeached?

Where on Earth have you been? Long time no see.

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electrotek  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:01:52pm

Repost from downstairs:

re: #360 wheat-dogg

You got photos of this mythical beast to share? Will Jay Leno die of envy?

It’s not a Toyota 2000GT Convertible sadly so he won’t die of envy sadly.

Here’s photos of it from the JU Nara auctionhouse. It’s a 1993 Toyota Mark 2 Tourer V:

Japanese auction inspection report

It has 79,000 km’s and it is BONE-STOCK! And I got it for a killer price too! 388,000¥!!!! First thing I’m going to have done is a manual transmission swap since the auto’s are pieces of junk and takes the fun out of the car. The car is ready for export thanks to its January ‘93 build date so it will be federally legal!

Holy shit I’m still in shock lol

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SpaceJesus  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:02:11pm

I hereby declare myself warlord of all lands west of the Pecos

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:03:05pm

Government shut down and now I have to cancel Doctor appointments for Monday and Wednesday…

TUCK YOU, FRUMP!

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Charles Johnson  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:03:16pm
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makeitstop  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:03:30pm

re: #5 electrotek

Repost from downstairs:

It’s not a Toyota 2000GT Convertible sadly so he won’t die of envy sadly.

Here’s photos of it from the JU Nara auctionhouse. It’s a 1993 Toyota Mark 2 Tourer V:

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It has 79,000 km’s and it is BONE-STOCK! And I got it for a killer price too! 388,000¥!!!! First thing I’m going to have done is a manual transmission swap since the auto’s are pieces of junk and takes the fun out of the car. The car is ready for export thanks to its January ‘93 build date so it will be federally legal!

Holy shit I’m still in shock lol

Nice ride! Congrats.

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SpaceJesus  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:03:31pm
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wheat-dogg  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:03:38pm

re: #5 electrotek

Looks like a sweet ride. Hope delivery is quick and hassle free.

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ipsos  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:04:06pm

re: #5 electrotek

That’s under $4000 US, right? How much does it cost to get it here? And how much fun will you have with a right-hand-driver on US roads?

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electrotek  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:04:09pm

A Toyota Mark 2 Tourer V is basically a 4 door Supra RZ/TT, but 200 lbs lighter. It is a RWD sedan powered by a twin-turbo inline 6 engine with a potent chassis that has made the platform a highly sought-after one for motorsports, especially in the world of drifting.

Don’t let the bland late-90’s Camry looks fool you…this is a force to be reckoned with.

I got so many plans with this car. This will be the first turbocharged car for me since 2003 when I bought a Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution 8 when it first came to American shores back then. It’s LONG-overdue for me!

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jaunte  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:04:35pm

Trump also playing 3d marketing chess.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:05:04pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:05:16pm
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Decatur Deb  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:05:35pm

re: #10 SpaceJesus

Just shows that you can have all the cards and lose if you don’t know what you’re doing.

That almost sounds like a flash of self-realization.
Nah.

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Kragar  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:05:42pm
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plansbandc  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:05:47pm

Ooh. Really like the tune. Gonna have to throw it on one of my walking playlists. Thanks Charles.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:05:57pm
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TedStriker  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:06:02pm

re: #5 electrotek

Repost from downstairs:

It’s not a Toyota 2000GT Convertible sadly so he won’t die of envy sadly.

Here’s photos of it from the JU Nara auctionhouse. It’s a 1993 Toyota Mark 2 Tourer V:

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It has 79,000 km’s and it is BONE-STOCK! And I got it for a killer price too! 388,000¥!!!! First thing I’m going to have done is a manual transmission swap since the auto’s are pieces of junk and takes the fun out of the car. The car is ready for export thanks to its January ‘93 build date so it will be federally legal!

Holy shit I’m still in shock lol

They could’ve at least detailed the interior…it’s a bit nasty inside, but it looks good on the outside and sounds like a good deal.

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jaunte  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:06:35pm
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De Kolta Chair  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:07:26pm
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The Major  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:08:32pm
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electrotek  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:09:03pm

re: #12 ipsos

That’s under $4000 US, right? How much does it cost to get it here? And how much fun will you have with a right-hand-driver on US roads?

Yeah according to the current shitty exchange rate, yes. Luckily I wired over $7,000 USD to my guy in Chiba back in November when it was 112JPY to 1USD so they got almost 800,000 JPY in the process.

It’ll be fine. I have a few friends who drive RHD cars brought in from overseas when they turned 25 years old to be federally legal for import and they don’t mind…other than the attention it will inevitably receive.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:09:45pm

re: #7 Joe Bacon 🌹

Government shut down and now I have to cancel Doctor appointments for Monday and Wednesday…

TUCK YOU, FRUMP!

As far as I know, my VA appointment next week is still up, but it’s in an outpatient clinic so I don’t know.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:09:52pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:10:16pm
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electrotek  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:10:33pm

re: #21 TedStriker

They could’ve at least detailed the interior…it’s a bit nasty inside, but it looks good on the outside and sounds like a good deal.

It’s an auction house so that isn’t their biggest priority lol

Those Japanese auction inspection reports are notoriously thorough in their assessments of every car that goes in for Auction. Let me give you an idea: USS Tokyo churns out 20,000 cars a WEEK.

You guys know how strict the shaken inspection is over there? It puts America into deep shame with the amount of hoopties that are allowed to be driven on American roads.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:10:49pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:12:35pm

re: #6 SpaceJesus

I hereby declare myself warlord of all lands west of the Pecos

I claim the Nebraska Sandhills and all the tumbleweeds and cattle found therein.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:12:54pm
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makeitstop  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:13:31pm
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ObserverArt  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:13:42pm

Happy New Year!!!

Oh wait. Wrong countdown.

But it has been a long year.

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JordanRules  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:13:56pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:14:18pm
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makeitstop  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:15:00pm

re: #34 ObserverArt

Happy New Year!!!

Oh wait. Wrong countdown.

But it has been a long year.

20 days in and it feels like a whole year already.

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electrotek  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:15:10pm

Just to give you guys an idea on the potential of the car I just bought:

🐒 TOYOTA MARK 2 JZX90 TOURER V DRIFT CAR

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jaunte  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:15:53pm

re: #38 electrotek

It’s a Wolfbitzer!

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:16:18pm

Hey GOP, quit blaming us. Quoting your own guy:

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The Major  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:16:23pm
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jaunte  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:16:45pm

McConnell just cast his no vote.

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ObserverArt  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:16:52pm

re: #37 makeitstop

20 days in and it feels like a whole year already.

Plus we are now officially in year two of Trump.

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Amory Blaine  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:17:31pm

I read somewhere Luntz was airing one of his Trumptard focus groups tonight.

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makeitstop  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:17:48pm

re: #43 ObserverArt

Plus we are now officially in year two of Trump.

Yay.
/

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:17:53pm

McConnell blaming the Democrats right now…called it a cynical ploy

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jaunte  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:18:01pm

McConnell is now cynically describing the Democrats as cynical, and their decision completely political.

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jaunte  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:18:41pm

...

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:18:58pm

Speaking of automobiles, here’s a couple of my fave surfers… (?)

Jan and Dean - Dead Man’s Curve

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jaunte  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:19:07pm
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Decatur Deb  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:19:15pm

re: #43 ObserverArt

Plus we are now officially in year two of Trump.

That’s written Cuspidor Year II.

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makeitstop  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:19:16pm

re: #47 jaunte

McConnell is now cynically describing the Democrats as cynical, and their decision completely political.

Dems should just start loudly laughing at him. The loser.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:19:20pm

McConnell complaining about the Democratic filibuster. WTH is he talking about?

Oh…pulling out the military card now…

fucking asshole

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Citizen K  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:19:27pm

re: #46 Backwoods_Sleuth

McConnell blaming the Democrats right now…called it a cynical ploy

re: #47 jaunte

McConnell is now cynically describing the Democrats as cynical, and their decision completely political.

Projection is all they have.

Unfortunately, yet again, it seems like that’s all they need to get the media lapping at their feet.

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Interesting Times  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:19:57pm
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fern01  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:20:16pm

Republicans take NO responsibility EVER. THey caused all the shutdowns during Obama time and blamed the democrats. Now when they are in control, they are blaming democrats.

They have no shame - ever. If the American people are taken in by this nonsense they deserve trump and all he represents

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:20:40pm

where did I leave my tiny violin and sad trombone?

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:21:25pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:21:52pm

JFC…so many sour grapes

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Kragar  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:22:31pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:22:37pm

re: #56 fern01

Republicans take NO responsibility EVER. THey caused all the shutdowns during Obama time and blamed the democrats. Now when they are in control, they are blaming democrats.

They have no shame - ever. If the American people are taken in by this nonsense they deserve trump and all he represents

Yep.

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Amory Blaine  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:22:38pm

Someone should throw a hard cover of Green Eggs and Ham in the Majority Leaders general direction.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:23:18pm
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ObserverArt  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:23:20pm

Oh…we don’t want to touch DACA do we?

Fuck off Mitch. Like how you slid that in there right after all the moaning.

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jaunte  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:23:58pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:24:00pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:24:26pm

The GOP crocodile tears over the military piss me off especially by the rank and file who were fine with the last shutdown. This is on the GOP. McConnell doesn’t want to budge on anything.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:25:09pm

re: #63 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He could not even get a Republican from his own state but yeah this is the Dems fault.

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Amory Blaine  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:25:15pm

re: #56 fern01

Facts do not matter to conservatives, they only want to ram oppression and misery down our throats.

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meteor  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:25:49pm

Sen. Schumer speaking now.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:27:02pm

re: #67 HappyWarrior

The GOP crocodile tears over the military piss me off especially by the rank and file who were fine with the last shutdown. This is on the GOP. McConnell doesn’t want to budge on anything.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:27:48pm

re: #71 Anymouse 🌹

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Kurt is correct.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:29:51pm
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fern01  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:29:53pm

re: #63 Backwoods_Sleuth

Meanwhile Chuck Schumer talks about bipartisan agreements that trump refuses to accept.

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jaunte  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:30:09pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:30:25pm

oooh, Schumer calling out Trump

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:30:25pm

Well, my friend who works as a weather forecaster at Offutt AFB still has to go to work sans pay.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:30:48pm

re: #74 fern01

Meanwhile Chuck Schumer talks about bipartisan agreements that trump refuses to accept.

McConnell too.

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electrotek  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:30:52pm

And just for the record, FUCK THE GOP FOR FUCKING WITH THE USD AND MAKING IT WEAKER RIGHT NOW!

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jaunte  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:30:55pm
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De Kolta Chair  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:31:03pm

A cute story about Liam Neeson being smitten by the first sight of Helen Mirren (like who the fuck wouldn’t be?)

Helen Mirren Reunited with Ex-Boyfriend Liam Neeson | The Graham Norton Show

Later lizards!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:31:25pm

trump doesn’t know the rudiments of governing (or words to that effect by Schumer)

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fern01  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:31:46pm

re: #66 Anymouse 🌹

A government shutdown would be one of the most important political events of all time since last Thursday.

Ain’t that the truth - in the Age of Obama the shutdowns were massive political events - with trump just another stupid event.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:31:54pm

re: #75 jaunte

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Holder hasn’t held back his punches since he left public life has he? Not complaining at all, he’s right.

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freetoken  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:32:17pm

For those not aware, there exists a hot exchange of mathiness around the net, for some time now, about this (increasingly infamous) video by the popular Numberphile Youtube channel:

ASTOUNDING: 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5 + … = -1/12

It has caused all sorts of confusion. The argument presented is actually wrong, but it takes someone knowledgeable of mathematics to explain why.

Here is one such guy, how recently put up a clear (if lengthy) explanation:

Numberphile v. Math: the truth about 1+2+3+…=-1/12

Put simply, the original Numberphile guys broke the rules for working with infinite sums, as one of their infinite sums diverges and there is nothing that can be done about that.

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ObserverArt  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:32:31pm

Donny is not going to like Chuck anymore after this. No way he can take this kind of criticism.

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makeitstop  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:32:38pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:33:28pm

re: #80 jaunte

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“Illegals” who know home but this one and if this asshole knew a damn thing about CHIP, he’d know the GOP never cared about it.

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Targetpractice  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:34:23pm

re: #83 fern01

Ain’t that the truth - in the Age of Obama the shutdowns were massive political events - with trump just another stupid event.

But for Trump, it’s Tuesday.

/

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fern01  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:34:45pm

re: #78 HappyWarrior

McConnell too.

Chuck was calling out trump much more than McConnell. The latter is now back up attacking the democrats. I will never understand why they protect the imbecile.

McConnell now quoting trump - both of them deserve each other.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:34:54pm

McConnell is just stamping his little feet and having a tantrum now

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majii  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:34:59pm

McConnell didn’t give a sh*t what Democrats thought when he was working on the GOP taxcut for the rich legislation. Hell, he didn’t even care what some GOPers thought, either. Now that he was dealing with the task of keeping the government funded and has failed, he’s concerned about Democrats helping him to do his own d*mn job? As someone here and on Twitter said, “Fruck McConnell.” At least an honest, nasty *ss, low down b*st*rd would notice his/her own hypocrisy, but not that *sshole McConnell. The Talking Yam can say whatever he wants to say about this, but it wasn’t HRC or any other Democrat who claims to be the world’s best dealmaker. If there’s two things I hope he learns from being POTUS, it’s that millions of us around the world don’t care for his lying *ss and think he’s a yuuuge failure.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:35:33pm

re: #90 fern01

Chuck was calling out trump much more than McConnell. The latter is now back up attacking the democrats. I will never understand why they protect the imbecile.

McConnell now quoting trump - both of them deserve each other.

No, I’m saying that McConnell refuses to accept bipartisan agreements.

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jaunte  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:35:56pm

Whiny McConnell is even more disgusting than smug McConnell.

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Targetpractice  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:35:59pm

re: #80 jaunte

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It’s a supremely cynical ploy by the GOP: Use CHIP to entice Democrats to vote for cloture and possibly the bill, and if they refused then portray it as “voting for ‘illegals’ over American kids!”

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:36:30pm

My rather apolitical wife is yelling at her computer watching Senator McConnell now as he lies through his teeth.

That bipartisan bill from Sens. Graham and Durbin is still available to vote on.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:36:40pm

re: #95 Targetpractice

It’s a supremely cynical ploy by the GOP: Use CHIP to entice Democrats to vote for cloture and possibly the bill, and if they refused then portray it as “voting for ‘illegals’ over American kids!”

I’m glad the Democrats didn’t take the bait.

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ObserverArt  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:37:08pm

re: #94 jaunte

Whiny McConnell is even more disgusting than smug McConnell.

I’ve only known the asshole McConnell.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:37:15pm

Funny thing, they never actually voted on the CR.
The only vote tonight was for cloture to cut off debate on the CR

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Targetpractice  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:37:18pm

re: #93 HappyWarrior

No, I’m saying that McConnell refuses to accept bipartisan agreements.

Bipartisan agreements mean sharing some of the credit. The GOP has wanted badly to be seen as the “saviors” of the nation. Remember, that was a big part of Trump’s sales pitch: “The country is broken and only I can fix it!”

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:37:41pm

McConnell is a piece of crap. Was before Trump and will be if he outlives him politically.

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jaunte  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:38:08pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:38:49pm

re: #100 Targetpractice

Bipartisan agreements mean sharing some of the credit. The GOP has wanted badly to be seen as the “saviors” of the nation. Remember, that was a big part of Trump’s sales pitch: “The country is broken and only I can fix it!”

Exactly. McConnell can go fuck himself. He’s been a bullying prick for too long.

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meteor  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:38:58pm

Gotta get some rest. See you later. :)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:39:46pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:39:50pm

re: #102 jaunte

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Maybe we shouldn’t let a party so contemptuous of government to run government.

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fern01  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:40:09pm

re: #93 HappyWarrior

No, I’m saying that McConnell refuses to accept bipartisan agreements.

Ah - sorry - I misunderstood.
Turtle now demanding democrat assistance - funny about that.

Can he remove the filibuster to get the funding passed? I really don’t understand how this works. In my world we had a shutdown once (1975). It was sorted via a new election and a law was past (I think, or an agreement reached) where our senate could not refuse supply (basic government spending) - so we’ve never had a shutdown since.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:40:15pm

What is it they are voting on now? Keeping the government open to Feb 8?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:40:20pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:40:30pm

Trump is only upset because his party tomorrow is ruined.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:40:41pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:41:37pm

re: #109 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Murphy gets it. They refused to negotiate at all. But then again this is a party who doesn’t care about bipartisanship and hasn’t in a long time.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:42:03pm

re: #108 Anymouse 🌹

What is it they are voting on now? Keeping the government open to Feb 8?

tabling a motion to defer or something like that.

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Belafon  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:42:13pm

re: #107 fern01

Ah - sorry - I misunderstood.
Turtle now demanding democrat assistance - funny about that.

Can he remove the filibuster to get the funding passed? I really don’t understand how this works. In my world we had a shutdown once (1975). It was sorted via a new election and a law was past (I think, or an agreement reached) where our senate could not refuse supply (basic government spending) - so we’ve never had a shutdown since.

No, he can’t. That’s set at the beginning of the legislative term (every two years). All he really has to do is allow bipartisan bills created to fund CHIP and legalize DACA.

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austin_blue  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:43:15pm

re: #6 SpaceJesus

I hereby declare myself warlord of all lands west of the Pecos

Any man west of the Rio Grande is the king of the world as far as I know.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:43:24pm

re: #107 fern01

Ah - sorry - I misunderstood.
Turtle now demanding democrat assistance - funny about that.

Can he remove the filibuster to get the funding passed? I really don’t understand how this works. In my world we had a shutdown once (1975). It was sorted via a new election and a law was past (I think, or an agreement reached) where our senate could not refuse supply (basic government spending) - so we’ve never had a shutdown since.

No, you’re good. I see why I confused. Shutdowns as I recall were fairly rare here until Gingrich took control of the House GOP in the early 90’s.

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plansbandc  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:44:17pm

The term “illegals” really just tap dances all over my last nerve.

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fern01  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:45:02pm

re: #114 Belafon

No, he can’t. That’s set at the beginning of the legislative term (every two years). All he really has to do is allow bipartisan bills created to fund CHIP and legalize DACA.

Thanks - he really doesn’t want to do the latter, I gather they could have been sorted months ago - what a mean horrible man - not to mention Paul Ryan.

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The Major  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:45:36pm

re: #73 Backwoods_Sleuth

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:46:15pm

re: #117 plansbandc

The term “illegals” really just tap dances all over my last nerve.

My peeve is when they act like it’s a crime in the sense robbing a bank is. Oh and don’t get me started on the smug assholes who insist their family emigrated legally without knowing one way or the other or how complicated immigration is.

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The Major  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:46:28pm

re: #81 De Kolta Chair

Remember: The best tunes are played on old instruments….

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:46:30pm

Gold and silver are both up. The coins in my safe deposit box are getting paid at least.

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electrotek  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:46:51pm

re: #122 Anymouse 🌹

Gold and silver are both up. The coins in my safe deposit box are getting paid at least.

But Bitcoin brooo

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teleskiguy  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:46:56pm

re: #115 austin_blue

Any man west of the Rio Grande is the king of the world as far as I know.

I am King.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:47:55pm

Arkansas hot take coming in:

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:48:10pm

Shit I remember Malkin harassing a kid for advocating for CHIP. They don’t care about those kids. They tried to cynically bait the Democratic Senators into screwing the DREAMers.

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electrotek  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:48:37pm

Oh by the way, would it be a bad idea if I had a “This machine kills fascists” decal on my new RHD turbo saloon?

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:49:39pm

Bitcoin rising.
ccn.com (real time updates)

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:49:42pm

re: #125 Anymouse 🌹

Arkansas hot take coming in:

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Maybe Huckabee should move to Russia. His values fit in better there.

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plansbandc  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:50:20pm

re: #126 HappyWarrior

And the Dems, to their credit wouldn’t give in. Good. Republicans own this.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:51:00pm

re: #127 electrotek

Oh by the way, would it be a bad idea if I had a “This machine kills fascists” decal on my new RHD turbo saloon?

I wouldn’t risk it. You never know who’s going to trash your vehicle over that.

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teleskiguy  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:51:05pm

re: #127 electrotek

Yes. That sticker only works on things that actually can’t kill human beings (unless you really put the effort into it) like guitars…

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The Major  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:52:09pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:52:19pm

re: #130 plansbandc

And the Dems, to their credit wouldn’t give in. Good. Republicans own this.

If we had, there are already sick children who would have lost their parents.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:52:58pm

re: #133 The Major

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Nice try Cornyn but that’s bs.

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electrotek  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:53:41pm

re: #132 teleskiguy

Yes. That sticker only works on things that actually can’t kill human beings (unless you really put the effort into it) like guitars…

Good point. Guess I’ll place a sticker on a musical instrument when I get my hands on a Roland TB-303 or a TR-909 one of these days…which will be never given how much they go for still :(

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allegro  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:53:58pm

re: #110 HappyWarrior

Trump is only upset because his party tomorrow is ruined.

At least something good came out of this.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:54:13pm

re: #132 teleskiguy

Yes. That sticker only works on things that actually can’t kill human beings (unless you really put the effort into it) like guitars…

The guitar is awesome. If I had one, that’s be the first thing I’d get on it as a homage to Woody but good point.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:54:31pm

And don’t you fucking forget it.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:55:07pm

re: #133 The Major

Cornyn lying about the troops as well.

I really despise the faux-patriotism of conservative politicians. My entire life it has been thus. Gaaa.

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teleskiguy  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:56:13pm

In college I had a couple of private notebooks (that I still have somewhere) that had stickers on them that read “This Machine Kills Fascists.” True story.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:56:25pm

re: #140 Anymouse 🌹

Cornyn lying about the troops as well.

I really despise the faux-patriotism of conservative politicians. My entire life it has been thus. Gaaa.

They’ve gotten away with it for too long. I wish more vets like yourself would call it out and I’m glad you do.

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jaunte  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:56:39pm
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fern01  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:56:54pm

re: #110 HappyWarrior

Trump is only upset because his party tomorrow is ruined.

I’d take a small wager that he flies down to the party - may not stay long - but he’ll be there.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:57:11pm

re: #143 jaunte

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Yep.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:57:43pm

re: #144 fern01

I’d take a small wager that he flies down to the party - may not stay long - but he’ll be there.

I’m sure he will. I hope he’s miserable.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:57:52pm

I’m guessing the IRS doesn’t count as “essential service” either. If that is so, the libertarian nihilists in the GOP get that wish as well.

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jaunte  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:58:39pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:59:46pm

re: #148 jaunte

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The more honest ones admit it. I respect them grudgingly more than the frauds acting like they care.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 9:59:55pm

re: #142 HappyWarrior

They’ve gotten away with it for too long. I wish more vets like yourself would call it out and I’m glad you do.

Sometimes I feel like a lonely voice in the Sandhills.

Everyone in my village knows exactly where I stand on this issue though.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 10:00:55pm

re: #150 Anymouse 🌹

Sometimes I feel like a lonely voice in the Sandhills.

Everyone in my village knows exactly where I stand on this issue though.

That’s all you can do. Be true to yourself.

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Belafon  Jan 19, 2018 • 10:01:43pm
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JordanRules  Jan 19, 2018 • 10:01:54pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 10:03:03pm

re: #152 Belafon

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Same. I know that my American birth is not divine. It’s happenstance and a few other bumps in the road, I’m not here.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 10:03:04pm

Dollar down versus a large basket of currencies tracked by Kitco, except for the Hong Kong dollar (up a few tenths of a cent).

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austin_blue  Jan 19, 2018 • 10:03:41pm

This isn’t about any of the things that are relevant- the Dreamers, CHIP, funding the Government. It’s about a completely dysfunctional Republican Party which, despite having control of the Senate, the House, and the Presidency, cannot govern.

This is chaos. This is disastrous. This is the new normal.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 10:03:45pm

re: #153 JordanRules

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Yeah well fuck Kelly too. We know he’s a bigoted asshole.

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teleskiguy  Jan 19, 2018 • 10:03:52pm
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Belafon  Jan 19, 2018 • 10:04:53pm

re: #153 JordanRules

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makeitstop  Jan 19, 2018 • 10:04:59pm

re: #136 electrotek

Good point. Guess I’ll place a sticker on a musical instrument when I get my hands on a Roland TB-303 or a TR-909 one of these days…which will be never given how much they go for still :(

Have you seen the TR-8? The sounds are there, and it’s not a back-breaker.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 10:05:49pm
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FormerDirtDart  Jan 19, 2018 • 10:06:47pm

Man, when even Comrade Glenn isn’t ready to stand behind a Russian talking point, you know it’s some weak shit

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electrotek  Jan 19, 2018 • 10:06:59pm

re: #160 makeitstop

Have you seen the TR-8? The sounds are there, and it’s not a back-breaker.

I’ve seen those, they are great machines.

I just have a very emotional attachment to the TB-303, TR-808, and the TR-909’s :(

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 10:07:03pm

I still don’t understand the purpose of this vote.

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austin_blue  Jan 19, 2018 • 10:08:55pm

re: #164 Anymouse 🌹

I still don’t understand the purpose of this vote.

Blame the Dems. Pure and simple. It’s bullshit, but it’ll play to the base.

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teleskiguy  Jan 19, 2018 • 10:09:01pm

re: #164 Anymouse 🌹

I still don’t understand the purpose of this vote.

It’s for tabling the tabling of the continuing resolution which may or may not go on for another vote for continuing the resolution for cloture.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 10:09:40pm

re: #162 FormerDirtDart

Man, when even Comrade Glenn isn’t ready to stand behind a Russian talking point, you know it’s some weak shit

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Fredo let the cat out of the bag earlier anyhow. He’s an idiot. Eric probably is tired of people assuming he’s the dumb one. Eric at least can keep his yap shut more then big brother who can’t shut up.

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The Major  Jan 19, 2018 • 10:10:33pm

re: #162 FormerDirtDart

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makeitstop  Jan 19, 2018 • 10:10:38pm

re: #163 electrotek

I’ve seen those, they are great machines.

I just have a very emotional attachment to the TB-303, TR-808, and the TR-909’s :(

I hear ya. I had a 909 for a few years. Then I got a Korg DDD-1 that actually used samples and sold the Roland for peanuts.

I still have the Korg, but I wish like hell I still had the 909.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 19, 2018 • 10:10:49pm

re: #164 Anymouse 🌹

I still don’t understand the purpose of this vote.

It’s the annual political football used for political gains by one side of the aisle ever since it went full-on “balanced budget.”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 10:11:35pm

re: #116 HappyWarrior

No, you’re good. I see why I confused. Shutdowns as I recall were fairly rare here until Gingrich took control of the House GOP in the early 90’s.

Happy I just started working for Social Security in 1978 when Rep. Chalmers Wylie of Ohio triggered the first shutdown in 1978 with his demand that Medicaid stop paying for abortions. At that time Ed Brooke was in the Senate and he refused to go along. For 3 weeks we were not paid but we had to go to work in the Chicago Payment Center. That’s when this madness started…

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 10:12:39pm

re: #165 austin_blue

Blame the Dems. Pure and simple. It’s bullshit, but it’ll play to the base.

They always do that.

re: #166 teleskiguy

It’s for tabling the tabling of the continuing resolution which may or may not go on for another vote for continuing the resolution for cloture.

Okay that makes sense. Kabuki theatre.

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austin_blue  Jan 19, 2018 • 10:12:59pm

re: #170 wheat-dogg

It’s the annual political football used for political gains by one side of the aisle ever since it went full-on “balanced budget.”

The last surplus the government ran was under Bill Clinton. GWB made short work of it.

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makeitstop  Jan 19, 2018 • 10:13:08pm
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KingKenrod  Jan 19, 2018 • 10:13:42pm

re: #164 Anymouse 🌹

I still don’t understand the purpose of this vote.

I think they are voting on whether or not to have a vote later (not tonight) on a CR that funds the govt thru Feb 9.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 10:13:55pm

re: #171 Joe Bacon 🌹

Happy I just started working for Social Security in 1978 when Rep. Chalmers Wylie of Ohio triggered the first shutdown in 1978 with his demand that Medicaid stop paying for abortions. At that time Ed Brooke was in the Senate and he refused to go along. For 3 weeks we were not paid but we had to go to work in the Chicago Payment Center. That’s when this madness started…

Ah. Didn’t know about the 78 one. Before my Moms time and after Dad’s Dad retirement from the NLRB.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 10:14:07pm

So after this vote, what happens then, regardless of an aye or nay vote?

My wife reading the Vice live chat says the conservatives there are just as confused as the liberals on what the heck is going on.

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teleskiguy  Jan 19, 2018 • 10:14:09pm
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electrotek  Jan 19, 2018 • 10:16:42pm

re: #169 makeitstop

I hear ya. I had a 909 for a few years. Then I got a Korg DDD-1 that actually used samples and sold the Roland for peanuts.

I still have the Korg, but I wish like hell I still had the 909.

YOU HAD A 909?!?!?!?!

Those kicks in the 909’s man, they’re so distinct and recognizable. Hard to replicate elsewhere with ‘em.

You have any idea what the 909’s go for these days? It’s insane!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 10:17:45pm
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teleskiguy  Jan 19, 2018 • 10:19:25pm
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The Major  Jan 19, 2018 • 10:19:55pm

re: #174 makeitstop

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makeitstop  Jan 19, 2018 • 10:21:01pm

re: #179 electrotek

YOU HAD A 909?!?!?!?!

Those kicks in the 909’s man, they’re so distinct and recognizable. Hard to replicate elsewhere with ‘em.

You have any idea what the 909’s go for these days? It’s insane!

I bought it new with an MSQ-700 sequencer, which I also still have. I dove head-first into MIDI for a while and did programming for a few studios out here on LI.

Which was why I bought the DDD-1. Everybody wanted more ‘real’ drum sounds and the Korg was the best my budget could do at the time.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 10:21:11pm

So does Mr. Marmalade actually want to fly Air Force One down to Mar-A-Lardo with a pilot on furlough?????

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Belafon  Jan 19, 2018 • 10:21:43pm

re: #184 Joe Bacon 🌹

So does Mr. Marmalade actually want to fly Air Force One down to Mar-A-Lardo with a pilot on furlough?????

Trump’s awesome. He can fly it himself.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 19, 2018 • 10:22:18pm

OK, calling it a night

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 10:22:48pm

GOP delenda est needs to be a trending hashtag on Twitter.

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BeachDem  Jan 19, 2018 • 10:23:04pm

re: #82 Backwoods_Sleuth

trump doesn’t know the rudiments of governing (or words to that effect by Schumer)

Look at HuffPo’s Main—kinda says it all:

huffingtonpost.com

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 19, 2018 • 10:23:52pm

re: #184 Joe Bacon 🌹

So does Mr. Marmalade actually want to fly Air Force One down to Mar-A-Lardo with a pilot on furlough?????

service members aren’t being furloughed

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 10:24:36pm

re: #189 FormerDirtDart

service members aren’t being furloughed

They aren’t being paid either.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 10:25:58pm

Hmmm, does this mean Trump has to do his own laundry and cleaning work there at the White House?

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 10:28:08pm
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fern01  Jan 19, 2018 • 10:28:50pm

re: #188 BeachDem

Look at HuffPo’s Main—kinda says it all:

huffingtonpost.com

From your link Democrats who voted for cloture -

Joe Manchin of West Virginia, Heidi Heitkamp of North Dakota, Doug Jones of Alabama, Claire McCaskill of Missouri and Joe Donnelly of Indiana.

Why did the dems fight so hard for Doug Jones? Do these people think it will make any difference to their re-election doing this - what they need to be re-elected is a GOP disaster in their state, a child abuser running against them or an R next to their name.

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fern01  Jan 19, 2018 • 10:29:30pm

re: #192 Anymouse 🌹

There is always a tweet - always.

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austin_blue  Jan 19, 2018 • 10:30:04pm

Well, they did what Drumpf wanted. They proved they cannot govern, even when they have all of the reins.

At this point, a functioning government is in free fall.

I’m sure that over the weekend, very serious talks will occur among the parties involved, but the D’s are just not going to move on the basic issues and the R’s are either going to have to crawfish (i.e. compromise), or entrench.

If they entrench, we could see this extend into February, by which time CHIP will be defunded in most of the States and kids will start to die, especially during this serious flu season.

I’m off to bed. This just sucks on numerous levels. These programs that are being defunded or eradicated are crucial to the common good. This contravenes the preamble to the Constitution and is just un-American and downright evil.

Fuck these Wingnuts right up their shitholes.

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JordanRules  Jan 19, 2018 • 10:32:41pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 10:33:56pm

re: #196 JordanRules

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Yeah they really care about CHIP kids.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 19, 2018 • 10:35:53pm
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BeachDem  Jan 19, 2018 • 10:36:31pm

re: #135 HappyWarrior

Nice try Cornyn but that’s bs.

They need to stop trying to make #SchumerShutdown happen.

#TrumpShutdown is trending No. 1 with 799k tweets.

(When it hits a million, the yam turns into a pumpkin)

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 10:39:23pm

re: #198 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Yeah fuck McConnell and Trump trying to make the Dems out to be anti military.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 19, 2018 • 10:42:59pm

re: #198 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I well recall the minor shitstorm that arose when the Dems demanded that Ronald Raygun and his GOP cohorts give the military a basic pay raise. The press spent at most a day covering that story.

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JordanRules  Jan 19, 2018 • 10:44:53pm

shit show

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 10:45:21pm

From the end of that Huffington Post article, the summation of cynical conservative disregard for the lives of people.

“This is what makes Congress work,” Hatch said. “Sooner or later they can get tired of it, then they’ll say let’s quit playing around and get something done.”

He added, somewhat facetiously: “Isn’t this fun?”

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BeachDem  Jan 19, 2018 • 10:47:36pm

re: #171 Joe Bacon 🌹

Happy I just started working for Social Security in 1978 when Rep. Chalmers Wylie of Ohio triggered the first shutdown in 1978 with his demand that Medicaid stop paying for abortions. At that time Ed Brooke was in the Senate and he refused to go along. For 3 weeks we were not paid but we had to go to work in the Chicago Payment Center. That’s when this madness started…

OMG—Chalmers Wylie—there’s a name I haven’t heard in a long time (and had hoped to never hear again!)

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 10:50:52pm

re: #200 HappyWarrior

Yeah fuck McConnell and Trump trying to make the Dems out to be anti military.

And we know if they won’t fund active duty they sure aren’t going to fund VA retirement or disability.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 19, 2018 • 10:52:22pm

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jan 19, 2018 • 10:56:19pm

You know, I got through this whole night of a Mar-a-Lago bribe-athon as the government shuts down and didn’t make a single crack about lettuce wedge salads.

I am the soul of restraint.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:02:21pm

re: #207 The Ghost of a Flea

You know, I got through this whole night of a Mar-a-Lago bribe-athon as the government shuts down and didn’t make a single crack about lettuce wedge salads.

I am the soul of restraint.

Hey don’t forget that it’s being served with Kraft Mac N’Cheese, Cocktail Weeneys and lots and lots and lots and lots of Diet Coke!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:04:09pm

re: #205 Anymouse 🌹

And we know if they won’t fund active duty they sure aren’t going to fund VA retirement or disability.

I’m 4 years away from maxing out on the old Civil Service Retirement System and I know they are going to fuck me out of as much of it as they can get away with…

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:05:47pm

re: #208 Joe Bacon 🌹

Mar-a-Lago’s menu doesn’t even have the homey charm of the kids’ menu.

It’s like a fucking barrow wight from the 80s is running the kitchen.

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Kragar  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:16:10pm
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Kragar  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:20:30pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:26:16pm

I Love Yew Texas 17 (goes to Juanita Jean’s, the World’s Most Dangerous Hair Salon), more at the link:

New Braunfels is a small town stuck between Austin and San Antonio. It is famous for the rivers running through it, providing great fun for tubers in the hot Texas sun.

And a butt crazy judicial system.

Judge interrupts jury deliberations, says God told him defendant not guilty

State District Judge Jack Robison interrupted jury deliberation to “sway jurors to return a not guilty verdict in the trial of a Buda woman accused of trafficking a teen girl for sex.”

He said he was powerful sorry to interrupt them but, “when God tells me I gotta do something, I gotta do it,” according to the Herald-Zeitung in New Braunfels.

The defendant faced two charges: sex trafficking, and buying or selling a person for sex. She was acquitted on the second charge and convicted on the first.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:42:01pm

Wight Chef: I SENSE A NEW FLAVOR IN MY DOMAIN

Waiter: It’s mango salsa. A guest requested it.

Wight Chef: IT BURNS ME WITH ITS BRIGHTNESS. THIS IS THE HOUSE OF BLUE CHEESING DRESSING AND THE ASHES OF THE DAMNED

Waiter: Look, I’ve already got it in a saucier, and it’s no big deal. This kind of the kind personal service that increases my tips.

Wight Chef: THESE GREEN PEPPERCORNS WERE SET IN BRINE IN THE MOMENT DISCO DIED. MY STEAK AU POIVRE IS SEASONED WITH THE TEARS OF MICHAEL MILKEN. I DO NOT KNOW “MANGOES.” THE SOUS-CHEFS BOUND IN CHAINS OF COLD IRON AND THE BONES OF ORPHANS KNOW ONLY WAILING, THE GNASHING OF TEETH, AND BEEF WELLINGTON. THERE WAS NO MENTION OF “CHUTNEY” IN THE PACT WE STRUCK WITH THE WIG.

Waiter: All that shit is beyond my pay grade. And there’s two orders for iceburg lettuce wedges up.

Wight Chef: I SHALL CONSULT WITH THE DEMON THAT EXCRETES THEM. IT MAY REQUIRE FURTHER INDUCEMENT, SUCH AS THE SOULS OF FLOCK OF SEAGULLS.

Waiter: Fuck it, I’m going back to Haiti.

Wight Chef: YES, YES. MORE DELICIOUS SHOULDER PADS FOR THE REST OF US.

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freetoken  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:48:29pm

So, #TrumpShutdown is trending number 1 still… so I streamed 5 minutes of tweets.

While there were nearly 10k tweets, very few of them were geo-coded. But I plotted the ones which were, to see if they were all piled up in us urban elite areas, but at least the geocoded ones were spread out:

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freetoken  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:51:19pm

re: #211 Kragar

It’s just the Nunes memo. Nunes, one of the most egregious of partisan hacks, is pimping his secret memo of allegations against the FBI.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:56:21pm

As it it irresponsible not to speculate:

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 19, 2018 • 11:59:04pm

Along with Orrin Hatch saying “isn’t this fun,” we get this:

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prairiefire  Jan 20, 2018 • 12:14:01am

re: #215 freetoken

That one in the middle of MOIsin Columbia on a college campus

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 20, 2018 • 12:15:55am
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jan 20, 2018 • 12:18:21am

dog knows where our politics will stagger on to from here

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 12:21:58am
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electrotek  Jan 20, 2018 • 12:25:08am

Score, just won another car through the Japanese auctions too!

A 1993 Toyota Crown Majesta, this is the creme of the crop of Japanese luxobarges in Japan:

And I bought this for ~$1360 USD for a pristine condition Crown Majesta with 9,000 km’s! So that’s 5,000 ACTUAL verified miles! For less than a 200k Lexus LS400 in the states.

To show how pristine it is, check the TradeCarView link for more photos and you won’t believe your eyes.

This thing also even has a rear fridge haha

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prairiefire  Jan 20, 2018 • 12:26:46am

re: #223 electrotek

Whaaa! Looks great.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jan 20, 2018 • 12:30:49am

re: #221 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

dog knows where our politics will stagger on to from here

We are pilgrims in an unholy land. Few Americans seem to realize that Obama was pretty much center-right by global standards. Trump and his bat guano base are off the scale, somewhere over in the weeds with no real counterpart anywhere else in the world.

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freetoken  Jan 20, 2018 • 12:33:48am

re: #225 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Trump’s base are atavists, throwbacks who desperately don’t want to live in the 21st century.

That explains the likes of James Dobson and Graham Jr. and their other-wise illogical devotion to Trump. Both know their marks, if they wise up to Trump, will also wise up to their own gimmicks.

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electrotek  Jan 20, 2018 • 12:34:46am

re: #224 prairiefire

Whaaa! Looks great.

It’s a freakin’ time capsule! I can’t wait til it is legal come November to bring it stateside.

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freetoken  Jan 20, 2018 • 12:35:44am

For decades now the American body politic, the clutch of power-mongers in the inner circle of DC and the money-men of America, have intentionally avoided facing down just how delusional the religious right is in America.

And now we see the consequence: Idiocracy.

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The Major  Jan 20, 2018 • 12:51:51am

re: #217 Anymouse 🌹

I don’t know if we can trust Abramson - he is a BernieBros after all…

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Dave In Austin  Jan 20, 2018 • 12:56:03am
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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 12:58:39am

For the gun-humping father who is concerned how the guys might view him if he’s carrying a pink diaper bag with critters or flowers on it, comes the tactical diaper bag, complete with a gun pocket.
tacticalbabygear.com (more)

While most guys will silently suffer the frills, ruffles, and embroidered duckies of the typical diaper bag, Bluffton, SC entrepreneur Bev Brodie saw a chance to do something much cooler. A father to two girls with his partner in business and life, Brandy Bartlett, Brodie is a life-long second amendment devotee and proud gun owner. Obviously, a frilly pink diaper bag poses a pretty serious compromise to a reputation like that.

“When you have two girls, and you’re the ‘tactical guy’ and the ‘gun guy’ and you walk into the gun store with your pink diaper bag, you kind of feel like less of a man,” he says with a laugh. “Right?”

When Brodie combined his drive to be a good dad with his deep interest in gun culture, he wound up creating something completely new to a market full of guys sick of diaper bag emasculation. He created Tactical Baby GearTM, a line of diaper bags and accessories that look like they were ripped right out of a SWAT team van.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jan 20, 2018 • 1:01:33am

re: #225 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

We are pilgrims in an unholy land. Few Americans seem to realize that Obama was pretty much center-right by global standards. Trump and his bat guano base are off the scale, somewhere over in the weeds with no real counterpart anywhere else in the world.

for decades we prepared for the time when we might have to face down a fascist dictator

we weren’t prepared for a stumbling, malicious shitshow of a clown

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jan 20, 2018 • 1:02:50am

re: #231 Anymouse 🌹

For the gun-humping father who is concerned how the guys might view him if he’s carrying a pink diaper bag with critters or flowers on it, comes the tactical diaper bag, complete with a gun pocket.
tacticalbabygear.com (more)

might heart goes out to this obviously deeply insecure little sumbitch

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The Major  Jan 20, 2018 • 1:08:42am

re: #231 Anymouse 🌹

For the gun-humping father who is concerned how the guys might view him if he’s carrying a pink diaper bag with critters or flowers on it, comes the tactical diaper bag, complete with a gun pocket.

Mind blown - core dumped

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Amory Blaine  Jan 20, 2018 • 1:49:17am

Cleaning out my locker looking for lunch. Kimchi flavored ramen and cranberry raisin cookie it is!

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 1:49:48am

re: #232 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

for decades we prepared for the time when we might have to face down a fascist dictator

we weren’t prepared for a stumbling, malicious shitshow of a clown

You go to war with the clowns you have, not the clowns you wish you had.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 1:56:17am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 20, 2018 • 2:16:33am
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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 2:24:42am

Blech. This bourbon of my wife’s is absolutely awful! (I think the giveaway should have been the plain black-and-white label emblazoned “bourbon.”) It’s like solvent mixed with turpentine, and then 10W30 added to it for extra body. I believe that’s what they call “blended.”

Reminder to self: Put rum on shopping list, and remember to plan shopping so you don’t run out.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 2:54:30am
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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 3:38:29am

Good night, y’all.

Good night

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Dave In Austin  Jan 20, 2018 • 3:39:43am

It’s up and rage tweeting…

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 3:45:15am

...

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 3:47:20am

re: #242 Dave In Austin

Who the heck is Randy Marsh?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 3:49:41am

re: #242 Dave In Austin

It’s up and rage tweeting…

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They claim to be upset about the military and CHIP kids but he seems more concerned about having “won.” Combine that with Hatch and Mulvaney appearing giddy. They’re really shooting them selves in the balls. Not that I feel bad.

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I cannot.  Jan 20, 2018 • 4:02:28am

re: #245 HappyWarrior

They’re really shooting them selves in the balls.

Objection! Assumes ‘nards not in evidence!

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The Major  Jan 20, 2018 • 4:28:36am

re: #242 Dave In Austin

I’m beginning to wonder Hair Furor and/or Bannon isn’t Bipolar….

(Definitely Bannon: his drinking and emailing at zero-dark-30 is a hallmark sign….)

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jan 20, 2018 • 4:32:39am

re: #245 HappyWarrior

They claim to be upset about the military and CHIP kids but he seems more concerned about having “won.” Combine that with Hatch and Mulvaney appearing giddy. They’re really shooting them selves in the balls. Not that I feel bad.

Nah, they’d be arrested by the Secret Service, since their balls are in a jar on Trump’s desk.

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The Major  Jan 20, 2018 • 4:37:44am
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The Major  Jan 20, 2018 • 4:40:47am

re: #244 Anymouse 🌹

Who the heck is Randy Marsh?

A character on South Park, silly.

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The Major  Jan 20, 2018 • 4:54:53am
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jeffreyw  Jan 20, 2018 • 5:07:21am

Imgur


Good morning!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 20, 2018 • 5:09:18am

re: #225 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

We are pilgrims in an unholy land. Few Americans seem to realize that Obama was pretty much center-right by global standards. Trump and his bat guano base are off the scale, somewhere over in the weeds with no real counterpart anywhere else in the world.

These are people who insist that Nazis and White Supremacists simply occupy a spot on the political spectrum (“alt-right”) instead of people whose views are anathema to American values and incompatible with our political system.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 20, 2018 • 5:14:34am

re: #240 Anymouse 🌹

Strange but true: the Arson Party couldn’t reach a compromise within its ranks between the “burn it all now” faction and the “burn it all eventually” faction, and is casting blame on the “maybe we could have fewer fires” party.

the only way for them to successfully spin this is to sell it as “Washington Establishment vs the Forgotten People” rather than Dems vs GOP.

And when DT “brokers” a fix, he will be hailed as the consummate deal-maker and praised for his bipartisan presidentiality.

And it will still be the Democrats’ fault: that is their very reason for being. THEY are the reason Hillary lost, THEY are the reason that the Middle East Wars are dragging on, THEY are the reason the economy collapsed in 2008 and THEY are the reason for the sluggish recovery of real wages and jobs despite a booming stock market.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 20, 2018 • 5:27:54am

Damn, I slept through the government closure.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 20, 2018 • 5:38:31am

re: #255 Shropshire Slasher

Damn, I slept through the government closure.

is it over already?

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 20, 2018 • 5:41:10am

re: #256 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I haven’t got my t-shirt yet!

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dirkdigglerjr  Jan 20, 2018 • 5:45:53am

re: #217 Anymouse 🌹

Nimrata Randhawa has a well-known history of fooling around, going back to her days as a member of South Carolina House of Representatives.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:04:21am

moron…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:06:05am
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MsJ  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:06:52am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:07:52am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:10:02am
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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:10:04am

My second attempt at potato pancakes. This time I squeezed out the excess water and I used my hamburger press to make cute little patties. I didn’t add the onion, the last time my eyes were burning the next day. Yes, you can add too many onions.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:12:00am

I just finished chapter 16 of Fire and Fury, which was the Comey chapter. If you want a clear view of how petty and vindictive Trump (and Jarvanka) can be, read that chapter. According to Wolff, everyone but Jared and Ivanka, who feared exposure of the family finances, were telling Trump, “Don’t fire Comey.” But Trump was out for revenge, and surprised everyone in the West Wing by taking it upon himself to send the dismissal letter to Comey. Wolff says Trump could not (and probably still cannot) understand that a president meddling with FBI business can only doom himself.

And gods, what a child Trump is! I have yet to find anyone in the Wolff book who considers Trump as anything but a force to be managed, like a disobedient, spoiled toddler.

So, Trump and Nikki Haley are reputed to be carrying on an affair. Nothing surprises me about this administration anymore, though I would have expected Trump bedding someone younger and blonder than Haley.

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Belafon  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:17:09am

re: #265 wheat-dogg

When you look and act like Trump, the only appeal you have is power. I’m not entirely sure it’s Haley, but it’s definitely someone who craves power.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:24:59am

re: #262 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Criminalizing poverty. They’re not serious on this issue at all.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:27:16am

re: #264 Shropshire Slasher

My second attempt at potato pancakes. This time I squeezed out the excess water and I used my hamburger press to make cute little patties. I didn’t add the onion, the last time my eyes were burning the next day. Yes, you can add too many onions.

Tried making them in a waffle iron, turned out quite well. Did versions with added cheese & ham, even.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:28:20am

I never would have thought Haley. My guess would have been someone who was more an operative I.e Hicks. Haley though. I did find how she went from blasting Trump to serving him so quickly.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:29:14am

re: #263 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Gah.

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Targetpractice  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:29:25am

re: #262 Backwoods_Sleuth

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This is the shit to bring up when wingnuts insist that the GOP has a DACA bill ready and the Dems won’t vote for it. Graham-Durbin is not perfect, but it doesn’t criminalize poverty.

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dangerman  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:30:41am

re: #216 freetoken

It’s just the Nunes memo. Nunes, one of the most egregious of partisan hacks, is pimping his secret memo of allegations against the FBI.

if it hasn’t been posted here yet, Nunes didnt write it
(goes to huffpo. politicalwire also has it)

The document, which alleges abuses of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act during the FBI’s quiet counterintelligence investigation into the Trump campaign in the final months of the 2016 election, was actually compiled by Republican staffers on the House Intelligence Committee.

(my bold)

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Belafon  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:32:59am

re: #272 dangerman

if it hasn’t been posted here yet, Nunes didnt write it
(goes to huffpo. politicalwire also has it)

(my bold)

The FBI abused FISA. Let’s give them back FISA.

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MsJ  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:33:10am

re: #264 Shropshire Slasher

My second attempt at potato pancakes. This time I squeezed out the excess water and I used my hamburger press to make cute little patties. I didn’t add the onion, the last time my eyes were burning the next day. Yes, you can add too many onions.

Are you grating the onions along with the potatoes? That’s what’s needed (along with adding an egg, S&P, and a couple of tablespoons of flour).

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:33:43am

re: #272 dangerman

if it hasn’t been posted here yet, Nunes didnt write it
(goes to huffpo. politicalwire also has it)

(my bold)

But Deep State is keeping it from us!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:34:09am

re: #267 HappyWarrior

Criminalizing poverty. They’re not serious on this issue at all.

They want to expand that beyond immigrants to include anyone who does not “work hard enough”. And if your full-time minimum-wage job does not make the cut, then go get a couple more. Your kids will just have to raise themselves.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:34:44am

Scott Walker is also a moron:

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:36:00am

re: #276 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They want to expand that beyond immigrants to include anyone who does not “work hard enough”. And if your full-time minimum-wage job does not make the cut, then go get a couple more. Your kids will just have to raise themselves.

It’s crap.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:36:45am

yep…he’s mad

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:36:53am

re: #277 Backwoods_Sleuth

Scott Walker is also a moron:

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Walker? Leadership? LNAO

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:38:20am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:38:22am

re: #279 Backwoods_Sleuth

yep…he’s mad

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Many of those immigrants you talk about are in our military. Secondly, you claim to be a great deal maker but you gave the Senate Dems nothing. As a better President then you said, the buck stops here.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:39:41am

re: #281 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Oh? The horror. No towels for the sweaty GOP but who cares about people worrying about loved ones being deported.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:41:53am

re: #282 HappyWarrior

Many of those immigrants you talk about are in our military. Secondly, you claim to be a great deal maker but you gave the Senate Dems nothing. As a better President then you said, the buck stops here.

unchecked?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:42:00am
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dangerman  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:44:15am

re: #36 Backwoods_Sleuth

I bet Trump would’ve angrily denied the Stormy Daniels story if he weren’t secretly high-fiving people about it.

a couple of boring thoughts on hookergate

A tabloid magazine held back from publishing an adult film star’s 2011 account of an alleged affair with Donald Trump after the future president’s personal lawyer threatened to sue, four former employees of the tabloid’s publisher told The Associated Press.

then i started to muse a bit
I wonder if she reported the income? not really a big deal, just curious.

more i wonder about the LLC

on what basis did it pay out the money?
was she a partner / did she get a k-1? because we dont know the llc players - how did they set it up?
some sort of vendor - did she get a 1099?

there are some swift and accruing penalties to the payer for not filing k-1’s or 1099’s

did the llc file a federal tax return?
how did the llc receive the $130k+ and report the payment to her?

because somehow the llc made a bank deposit. was it income of some kind? a capital contribution?
did it deduct the payment to her? that could create a pass through loss back to the llc ‘owners’

i wouldnt doubt any of these possibilities

if you dont get all the nuance, it’s sticky, shady, bogus, creepy, and, for such a rich guy penny ante cheap.
$130k - “i tipped my doorman more than that this morning” (oscar madison)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:47:55am
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Targetpractice  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:48:17am

re: #277 Backwoods_Sleuth

Scott Walker is also a moron:

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Trump’s leadership was on display yesterday: He called Schumer to his office and worked out the broad outline of a deal, then kicked him out with an order to go back to negotiating with Ryan and McConnell. And instead of calling Schumer himself to say the deal was “too liberal,” he either left that task up to Kelly or (worse) let Kelly make the decision for him.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:48:44am

re: #287 Backwoods_Sleuth

Problem phrase: “good faith on both sides”. The Republicans never negotiate in good faith.

Morning Lizardim.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:49:23am
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dangerman  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:49:42am

re: #259 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron…

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pretty sure this is a rehash of the one he sent five years ago

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Targetpractice  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:51:26am

re: #289 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Problem phrase: “good faith on both sides”. The Republicans never negotiate in good faith.

Morning Lizardim.

Given the events of the past week, it’s clear that some can when its their political asses on the line. Apparently the very real danger of being voted out of office has a way of focusing Republican minds on the need to get shit done.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:51:37am

I didn’t realize I was sitting on, and flushing down, a gold mine in raw water.

Fans are quenching their thirst for “raw water” - water with no chemicals or other treatment that passes federal regulations because it’s clean at the source.

“It’s a no-brainer,” said Lee Sayer, a musician in San Francisco and anti-fluoride activist who has been drinking raw water for months. “You have water that’s processed through the earth through natural processes - it’s cleaned. And being that water has memory, it has a memory of tumbling through the rocks. It has micronutrients and I believe it’s alive.”

I grow rocks in the winter (the frost pushes them up in my lawn) I should restart the pet rock craze.

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SpaceJesus  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:52:05am

re: #4 makeitstop

Where on Earth have you been? Long time no see.

Just sitting back and watching as Americans poison themselves with laundry detergent

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:52:36am

re: #293 Shropshire Slasher

I didn’t realize I was sitting on, and flushing down, a gold mine in raw water.

I grow rocks in the winter (the frost pushes them up in my lawn) I should restart the pet rock craze.

Oh Jesus. So the raw water craze is based on the whole water-memory homeopathic bullshit. I should’ve known.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:53:48am

Sorry I meant he had Kelly call Schumer.

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A Mom Anon  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:55:41am

re: #295 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I swear, if I had no conscience I could be SO rich right now. I’m in deep red wingnut country and it’s amazing how many of them are into shit like drinking colloidal silver, homeopathic crap, and dumb diets.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:56:19am
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Targetpractice  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:57:35am

re: #293 Shropshire Slasher

I didn’t realize I was sitting on, and flushing down, a gold mine in raw water.

I grow rocks in the winter (the frost pushes them up in my lawn) I should restart the pet rock craze.

Anti-vaccination, colloidal silver, raw milk, and now raw water…apparently playing Russian Roulette with your health is now “hip.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:58:00am

JD Vance’s hometown:

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:59:03am

re: #298 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Those aides of course include Kelly himself and of course Miller.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:59:29am

re: #293 Shropshire Slasher

I didn’t realize I was sitting on, and flushing down, a gold mine in raw water.

Fans are quenching their thirst for “raw water” - water with no chemicals or other treatment that passes federal regulations because it’s clean at the source.

We had that in our village. Although it was officially labeled as not drinking water, that was only because it was not tested regularly by the authorities. A neighbor had a sample analyzed and found it to be completely safe and clean.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:59:36am

re: #299 Targetpractice

Beaver, meet fever.

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Targetpractice  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:59:43am

It would be fittingly amusing if these “natural remedies” morons get carted to an ER in massive pain and the attending physician met their cries for pain meds with “Don’t you want some raw herbs washed down with raw water? I mean, I’d hate for you to ‘pollute’ your body with my manufactured medicines…”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:01:02am

re: #299 Targetpractice

Anti-vaccination, colloidal silver, raw milk, and now raw water…apparently playing Russian Roulette with your health is now “hip.”

It gets dangerous when the anti-big pharma, anti-western medicine crowd starts making common cause with the anti-big government, anti-science crowd. In fact that critical mass of stupid is enough to get people killed.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:01:03am

re: #304 Targetpractice

It would be fittingly amusing if these “natural remedies” morons get carted to an ER in massive pain and the attending physician met their cries for pain meds with “Don’t you want some raw herbs washed down with raw water? I mean, I’d hate for you to ‘pollute’ your body with my manufactured medicines…”

That has happened before. Now granted, they got their meds in the end because Hippocratic Oath and all that jazz, but nevertheless, professionals do sometimes indulge in their moments of schadenfreude when the opportunity arises.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:01:52am

re: #293 Shropshire Slasher

I didn’t realize I was sitting on, and flushing down, a gold mine in raw water.

I grow rocks in the winter (the frost pushes them up in my lawn) I should restart the pet rock craze.

The idea that water has “memory” is a New Age-y idea I came across when my ex was into that sort of thing. And the micronutrients shit comes from homeopathy. So, the target audience includes New Age woo-woo believers, alt-medicine believers, and the anti-fluoride conspiracy theorists — nearly the same overlap as anti-vaxxers.

Raw water I gather would be indistinguishable from the well water I grew up on (unfluoridated, which gave me all sorts of teeth problems as a child), or the water from a mountain spring or river, except there’s no testing to make sure it’s not got microorganisms that can make you very sick or kill you.

Sounds great! I should bottle some China tapwater and sell it in the USA. I could make a fortune!

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Targetpractice  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:02:19am

re: #305 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It gets dangerous when the anti-big pharma, anti-western medicine crowd starts making common cause with the anti-big government, anti-science crowd. In fact that critical mass of stupid is enough to get people killed.

“The government can’t force me to vaccinate my kids!”

“Yeah! I should have the freedom to choose whether or not I want my kids vaccinated!”

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:04:14am

re: #308 Targetpractice

“The government can’t force me to vaccinate my kids!”

“Yeah! I should have the freedom to choose whether or not I want my kids vaccinated!”

Where the left is fortunate is that line of thinking hasn’t entered our politicians.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:04:49am

Raw water follows the raw milk and raw cheese fads, each of which has its own risks, since the products are not pasteurized before sale.

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dangerman  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:05:05am

re: #293 Shropshire Slasher

I didn’t realize I was sitting on, and flushing down, a gold mine in raw water.

I grow rocks in the winter (the frost pushes them up in my lawn) I should restart the pet rock craze.

i knew these people were loons. i didnt know this much:

And being that water has memory, it has a memory of tumbling through the rocks.

memory? homeopathic nonsense

or this:

It has micronutrients and I believe it’s alive.

gah

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:05:34am
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:06:39am

re: #310 wheat-dogg

Raw water follows the raw milk and raw cheese fads, each of which has its own risks, since the products are not pasteurized before sale.

And they are illegal to sell. People have gotten busted by the authorities for buying raw milk from homeopathic dairy farmers.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:07:20am

re: #312 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Trump put ketchup on his cards and ate them.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:07:32am

re: #311 dangerman

i knew these people were loons. i didnt know this much:

memory? homeopathic nonsense

or this:

gah

Oh yeah. From my days hanging out on the International Skeptics Forum, this was one of the more entertaining debates to watch. So much concentrated stupid. And they talked about what amazing health they were in all the time… until they got sick.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:07:56am

re: #311 dangerman

i knew these people were loons. i didnt know this much:

memory? homeopathic nonsense

or this:

gah

There’s a New Age trope that water and food have some kind of psychic “energy” inherent in them, which can be enhanced or destroyed depending on how they are prepared. For example, electric heat is bad, while gas heat is good, and microwaves are evil.

Learning this from my ex made my head hurt.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:09:12am
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wheat-dogg  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:10:40am

re: #313 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

And they are illegal to sell. People have gotten busted by the authorities for buying raw milk from homeopathic dairy farmers.

With good reason. There are very good reasons why the government regulates dairy products, aside from the bacterial issues. Before regulation, some milk producers would doctor the milk with non-milk additives — water that looked like milk but had the added property of making your kid sick to death.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:11:16am

re: #316 wheat-dogg

There’s a New Age trope that water and food have some kind of psychic “energy” inherent in them, which can be enhanced or destroyed depending on how they are prepared. For example, electric heat is bad, while gas heat is good, and microwaves are evil.

Learning this from my ex made my head hurt.

I remember having that sort of discussion with some serious wholesale crystal vendors in Santa Fe, NM in the 80’s.

I explained that I had studied crystallography and crystal chemistry and was familiar with the basic principles of how they work, and asked it they could please describe these various forms of crystal “energy” in terms of what goes in, what comes out and what happens to it in between those points?

That was just too prosaic and limited for them…

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SteelPH  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:14:19am

Oh. It’s my birthday. Woo and stuff.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:14:36am

re: #319 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I remember having that sort of discussion with some serious wholesale crystal vendors in Santa Fe, NM in the 80’s.

I explained that I had studied crystallography and crystal chemistry and was familiar with the basic principles of how they work, and asked it they could please describe these various forms of crystal “energy” in terms of what goes in, what comes out and what happens to it in between those points?

That was just too prosaic and limited for them…

Oh, the ex was into crystal energy, too. And those shops mark up their wares astronomically high for the yuppie New Age types with more money than sense.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:15:06am
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sagehen  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:15:35am

re: #320 SteelPH

Oh. It’s my birthday. Woo and stuff.

Wow. You’re (mumble mumble) years old, and you don’t look a day over (ten less than mumble mumble)…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:16:16am
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SteelPH  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:16:19am

re: #323 sagehen

Wow. You’re (mumble mumble) years old, and you don’t look a day over (ten less than mumble mumble)…

31. But thanks. Hah

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dangerman  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:16:21am

re: #315 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Oh yeah. From my days hanging out on the International Skeptics Forum, this was one of the more entertaining debates to watch. So much concentrated stupid. And they talked about what amazing health they were in all the time… until they got sick.

been a member of csicop (now csi) and reader of the skeptical inquirer for 38 years

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:18:40am

re: #293 Shropshire Slasher

re: #295 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Oh Jesus. So the raw water craze is based on the whole water-memory homeopathic bullshit. I should’ve known.

It’s been mentioned here in the Czech Republic - unfortunately, a whole lotta Czechs are really into homeopathy woowoo.

I think this won’t end well, to be honest. And worse yet, there’s several regions here in the country where the water has been contaminated by heavy metals and other nasty things.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:19:18am

re: #321 wheat-dogg

Oh, the ex was into crystal energy, too. And those shops mark up their wares astronomically high for the yuppie New Age types with more money than sense.

these guys were into vending crystals wholesale, because as they told me, everyone in Santa Fe already had their crystals. They were also very knowledgeable of the local real estate market and seemed to know the asking price of every available property.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:21:43am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:23:55am

sure thing, Lindsey…go with that explanation.

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sagehen  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:26:12am

re: #326 dangerman

been a member of csicop (now csi) and reader of the skeptical inquirer for 38 years

Is that anything like PsiCorps?

Babylon 5 Data Files - Psi Corps

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:26:15am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:27:14am

re: #329 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Bullshit McCain

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dangerman  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:30:23am

re: #331 sagehen

Is that anything like PsiCorps?

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er… not so much

in 2006 when they changed their name so the initials spelled “csi” it got even worse

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:31:33am

MIDDLETOWN, Ohio (WKRC) - Multiple crews are battling a massive fire at AK Steel in Middletown Saturday morning.

Crews were called to the fire at the facility on Crawford Road around 8 a.m.

Local 12 was told the fire is in the middle of the plant. There were also reports of molten steel flowing throughout the facility.

So far, no one has been injured.

YOWSER!

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dangerman  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:32:56am

re: #332 Backwoods_Sleuth

NO.
No CR.
No bandaids.
No temp fixes.
No more sequestration.

Give us DACA. Fully fund CHIP. No taxpayer funds for Trump’s wall. No compromise. Give us a goddamned budget. This is Democrats’ ONE CHANCE to take down this horrible shitty administration. So do it.

THIS
because none of this is new
none of this is a surprise
ALL of this was seen coming down the pike months if not years ago

do your fucking jobs: govern by negotiation and compromise. that’s our system

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scottslemmons  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:33:06am

I have a hard time believing Trump is carrying on with Nikki Haley when his Type is blondes who look like his daughter.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:33:35am
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dangerman  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:34:39am

re: #337 scottslemmons

I have a hard time believing Trump is carrying on with Nikki Haley when his Type is blondes who look like his daughter.

he does demand a lot of “executive time”

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:36:23am

re: #320 SteelPH

Oh. It’s my birthday. Woo and stuff.

Many happy returns.

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dangerman  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:36:36am

re: #338 Backwoods_Sleuth

Franklin Graham says that the difference between evangelicals’ statements about Bill Clinton’s behavior and Donald Trump’s is Trump has denied the behavior, and so Graham says he doesn’t know whether to believe it because “it’s just a news story.” He says Trump is a truthful man.

“i did not have sexual relations with that woman, ms. lewinsky”

resign!!! impeach!! lock him up!!!!!!!!

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:36:45am

re: #338 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Lol

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:37:35am

re: #338 Backwoods_Sleuth

Franklin Graham says that the difference between evangelicals’ statements about Bill Clinton’s behavior and Donald Trump’s is Trump has denied the behavior, and so Graham says he doesn’t know whether to believe it because “it’s just a news story.” He says Trump is a truthful man.

Clinton is a serial sinner who has never repented. Evangelicals can repent after every sin and be sent off to go and sin some more, er I meant no more.

And there is no forgiving those baby killers until they recognize that a womb does not belong to the woman, it belongs to the embryo/fetus inhabiting it.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:39:24am
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Dr Lizardo  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:41:47am

So these fellas are coming to town on January 30th to play at a our local (and only) jazz club here in Ostrava.

Nigel Price - Organ Trio - Mozambique

Tickets are only about $8.50; I might have to check it out.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:44:52am

re: #345 Dr Lizardo

So these fellas are coming to town on January 30th to play at a our local (and only) jazz club here in Ostrava.

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Tickets are only about $8.50; I might have to check it out.

Nice

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dangerman  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:49:10am

re: #345 Dr Lizardo

So these fellas are coming to town on January 30th to play at a our local (and only) jazz club here in Ostrava.

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Video

Tickets are only about $8.50; I might have to check it out.

id go if i were in the neighborhood
or on the continent

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:49:20am

re: #320 SteelPH

Oh. It’s my birthday. Woo and stuff.

Seize the day, have a ball.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:50:11am

re: #346 HappyWarrior

Nice

The concerts are underwritten and subsidized by the city’s culture department, so it keeps the price nice and affordable. The city actually owns that particular jazz club. The story I heard was that a former mayor was a jazz fan, and when the club was faced with bankruptcy about 20-odd years ago, he persuaded the city council to buy it. They also bought a cinema and a couple of cafes; all of them have been refurbished.

I’ll post a photo of one of the cafes (interior shot) in a minute.

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dangerman  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:50:27am

re: #348 Unshaken Defiance

Seize the day, have a ball.

have a cat birthday
do whatever the hell you want

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:50:56am

re: #320 SteelPH

Happy Birthday. Enjoy the day. :)

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:53:10am

re: #349 Dr Lizardo

The concerts are underwritten and subsidized by the city’s culture department, so it keeps the price nice and affordable. The city actually owns that particular jazz club. The story I heard was that a former mayor was a jazz fan, and when the club was faced with bankruptcy about 20-odd years ago, he persuaded the city council to buy it. They also bought a cinema and a couple of cafes; all of them have been refurbished.

I’ll post a photo of one of the cafes (interior shot) in a minute.

Very cool.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:53:24am

re: #349 Dr Lizardo

Interior shot of Kavárna Elektra, downtown Ostrava
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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:05:57am

So I have been told for the sake of peace in the house to not reveal my registration as a Democrat to MIL, BIL’s etc. Talk about an internal conflict of interest…
Edit-That’s work and in laws now.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:07:18am

re: #354 Unshaken Defiance

So I have been told for the sake of peace in the house to not reveal my registration as a Democrat to MIL, BIL’s etc. Talk about an internal conflict of interest…

And now you know how I feel. Welcome to the misery club.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:07:29am

re: #354 Unshaken Defiance

Sometimes silence is golden.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:10:18am

If, well when I get busted I’m looking them square in the eye and telling them it’s because Donald Trumps election. And that I value a list of amendments as much as they do the 2nd. Oh, and CALIFORNIA. The primary is the election for Gov. Why be disenfranchised?

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:14:07am

re: #356 PhillyPretzel

Sometimes silence is golden.

When BIL spouts off, it’s going platinum. :-)

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jeffreyw  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:17:21am

re: #265 wheat-dogg

And gods, what a child Trump is! I have yet to find anyone in the Wolff book who considers Trump as anything but a force to be managed, like a disobedient, spoiled toddler.

I’m pretty sure he has been compared to the boy in that TZ? episode, his aides fear that he will tweet them into the cornfield if they cross him.

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SteelPH  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:22:38am

re: #340 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

re: #351 PhillyPretzel

Thanks!

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A Mom Anon  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:23:36am

re: #360 SteelPH

Happy Birthday Mr PH!!!

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danarchy  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:27:41am

re: #223 electrotek

Score, just won another car through the Japanese auctions too!

A 1993 Toyota Crown Majesta, this is the creme of the crop of Japanese luxobarges in Japan:

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And I bought this for ~$1360 USD for a pristine condition Crown Majesta with 9,000 km’s! So that’s 5,000 ACTUAL verified miles! For less than a 200k Lexus LS400 in the states.

To show how pristine it is, check the TradeCarView link for more photos and you won’t believe your eyes.

This thing also even has a rear fridge haha

Looks nice, they seem to have put the steering wheel on the wrong side though.

///

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wheat-dogg  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:29:26am

re: #359 jeffreyw

I’m pretty sure he has been compared to the boy in that TZ? episode, his aides fear that he will tweet them into the cornfield if they cross him.

He’s petty and vindictive, and demands loyalty like a mafia don would. Wolff also captures the Trump trait of agreeing with whomever last talked to him. We saw that live when he did that parlay with the congressmen about immigration.

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Skip Intro  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:33:07am

re: #206 HappyWarrior

EiOMIJBdE+z8W06fOq2nz/GQUht4p0Qe

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Skip Intro  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:38:39am

Sending my hopes and prayers.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:38:40am

While we dither and shut down the world moves on.
Turkey Launched An Offensive Against Kurds in Northwestern Syria, Here’s Why It Matters

Turkey says it has effectively kicked off an offensive to destroy Kurdish forces in and around the far northwestern Syrian city of Afrin with an artillery bombardment, after deciding against air strikes in the face of Syrian threats. It is the latest indication that the conflict in the country is evolving rapidly as the threat of ISIS terrorists has steadily dissipated. There is now the potential for a dangerous three-way standoff between the Turks, the United States, and Syria’s dictator Bashar Al Assad and his Russian and Iranian benefactors.

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SteelPH  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:39:59am

re: #365 Skip Intro

First world problems.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:43:04am

Live video. “Women’s March 2018: Power to the Polls” #WomensMarch2018 twitter.com

Hmm I thought the video would show right in the comment.

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Skip Intro  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:44:04am
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Targetpractice  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:48:26am

re: #369 Skip Intro

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I see Disney made their animatronic look more lifelike…oh wait, that’s actually Trump. Hard to tell with the dead, soul-less eyes.

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A Mom Anon  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:49:54am

I seriously believe anyone running for office for any fucking thing should have to pass a civics exam and relate to us what they think their job actually is. Those two things might spare us some stupid, damaging consequences. Maybe.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:50:30am
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dangerman  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:52:45am

re: #372 Unshaken Defiance

So the Republicans hold the Presidency, the Senate and Congress. And still can’t will not even attempt to pass a budget. Sheer legislative incompetence underpinning lunacy in the executive. I remember when the GOP could get it done with the Presidency but an opposition run house. Trump is toxic.

tiny correction
because addressing the budget will highlight the deficit they just created

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:53:36am

re: #320 SteelPH

Happy Burfday and many many more.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:59:01am

re: #364 Skip Intro

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A Mom Anon  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:59:12am

re: #373 dangerman

Well that and they can’t govern. I could seriously get a bunch of kids together and come up with better legislation.

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Targetpractice  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:59:36am

re: #373 dangerman

tiny correction
because addressing the budget will highlight the deficit they just created

Prexactly, McConnell’s already said the Senate GOP won’t be voting on a budget resolution this year. Why? He cited that a 51-49 majority means its unlikely he could get one passed, let alone one the House GOP would approve of, but the reality is that it would project a $1 trillion budget deficit for this year and every year of Trump’s presidency. This after 8 years of screaming about how any sort of budget deficit was a national tragedy.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:01:25am

re: #369 Skip Intro

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It really is hard to take them seriously on this issue when they propose stuff like this. This is an issue that theoretically should get bipartisan cooperation on but proposing cuts by 95%? if you think something is a national emergency, you don’t do cuts like this. You certainly don’t put a 24 year old staffer who frankly is about as qualified as I am to figure it out in charge. Delegation is part of what defines leadership and delegation is one of Trump’s worst aspects. Granted, he has a ton of terrible aspects.

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electrotek  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:02:29am

re: #362 danarchy

Looks nice, they seem to have put the steering wheel on the wrong side though.

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You mean the right side! haha

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SteelPH  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:04:14am

re: #378 HappyWarrior

It really is hard to take them seriously on this issue when they propose stuff like this. This is an issue that theoretically should get bipartisan cooperation on but proposing cuts by 95%? if you think something is a national emergency, you don’t do cuts like this. You certainly don’t put a 24 year old staffer who frankly is about as qualified as I am to figure it out in charge. Delegation is part of what defines leadership and delegation is one of Trump’s worst aspects. Granted, he has a ton of terrible aspects.

Makes ya wonder if Trump’s an opioid addict.

//It would be irresponsible not to speculate

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:04:29am

re: #379 electrotek

That is a really good looking car. That name Crown Majesta reminds me of the Crown Victoria.

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dangerman  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:04:43am

as we were all saying “why not both”, “indivisible guide” on twitter corrected mcconnell’s false-choice (moronic) tweet graphic

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dangerman  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:06:02am

re: #376 A Mom Anon

Well that and they can’t govern. I could seriously get a bunch of kids together and come up with better legislation.

i believe i nominated you for president a few weeks ago
you are still required to bring enough cookie stuffed brownies for everybody

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SteelPH  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:06:38am

re: #376 A Mom Anon

Well that and they can’t govern. I could seriously get a bunch of kids together and come up with better legislation.

They don’t want to govern. They want to rule.

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dangerman  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:07:42am

re: #377 Targetpractice

Prexactly, McConnell’s already said the Senate GOP won’t be voting on a budget resolution this year. Why? He cited that a 51-49 majority means its unlikely he could get one passed, let alone one the House GOP would approve of, but the reality is that it would project a $1 trillion budget deficit for this year and every year of Trump’s presidency. This after 8 years of screaming about how any sort of budget deficit was a national tragedy.

and when you say “Get one passed” that means, without democrats.
because if we let them participate we have to give them something

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dangerman  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:08:28am

re: #378 HappyWarrior

It really is hard to take them seriously on this issue when they propose stuff like this. This is an issue that theoretically should get bipartisan cooperation on but proposing cuts by 95%? if you think something is a national emergency, you don’t do cuts like this. You certainly don’t put a 24 year old staffer who frankly is about as qualified as I am to figure it out in charge. Delegation is part of what defines leadership and delegation is one of Trump’s worst aspects. Granted, he has a ton of terrible aspects.

but but but he only hires the best people!
(he said so himself)

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:09:13am
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SteelPH  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:10:32am

re: #387 Unshaken Defiance

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A Mom Anon  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:12:19am

re: #383 dangerman

Can I get the White House kitchen staff to help? I’m gonna have a big mess to clean up when I’m all moved in, my baking time might be limited for awhile…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:14:08am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:14:21am

re: #380 SteelPH

Makes ya wonder if Trump’s an opioid addict.

//It would be irresponsible not to speculate

He’s a weird cat for sure.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:14:28am

I got friends marching at today’s rallies!

A couple friends are carrying this sign
My buddy Jon also lending a hand!
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electrotek  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:14:53am

re: #381 PhillyPretzel

That is a really good looking car. That name Crown Majesta reminds me of the Crown Victoria.

Oh yes, for sure. But more reliable and classy than a Crown Vic haha

I was this close to bidding on this car, a 1991 Toyota Century Limousine, which is the Japanese Rolls-Royce and has A LOT of cachet given its history:

It was a 4 grade car from USS Tokyo, but I ultimately decided against bidding it. Why? Because unlike other Toyotas, this one is exclusive and does not share a SINGLE part with any other Toyota…therefore if anything goes wrong, I’m basically screwed since I would have to seek out parts from Japan to replace anything.

It sucks because otherwise it would garner so much attention as this is the epitome of Japanese luxury and excellence that only the Emperor and senior government officials would be seen in.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:15:27am
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SteelPH  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:17:06am

re: #394 Backwoods_Sleuth

Go fuck yourself, Beaky. You don’t get to claim the moral high ground. Especially not after objecting to these.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:19:27am

re: #393 electrotek

That would be a Jay Leno car. He’s got the resources to maintain a beast like that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:21:05am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:21:39am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:23:10am

re: #398 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Ryan’s always been a spineless wimp.

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ObserverArt  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:28:29am

re: #300 Backwoods_Sleuth

JD Vance’s hometown:

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Saw that bit posted by BeachDem about JD’s run for Ohio Senate coming to an end.

It should have never had a beginning.

What a putz. From “hillbilly” background to author of sketchy book to being pushed to run for a high office.

I guess it one of those only-in-America things.

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jaunte  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:29:08am

Breathtaking, cynical dishonesty from congressional R leadership this morning.
Day ending in -day.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:29:17am
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dangerman  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:29:43am

re: #389 A Mom Anon

Can I get the White House kitchen staff to help? I’m gonna have a big mess to clean up when I’m all moved in, my baking time might be limited for awhile…

sure if you keep the government funded and open

just rewatched the west wing “shutdown” episode
if only….

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dangerman  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:31:17am

re: #394 Backwoods_Sleuth

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they essentially take the dems hostage and then complain that they wont pay the ransom

we dont negotiate with terrorists

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dangerman  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:31:55am

im off

more later

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CleverToad  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:32:53am

re: #390 Backwoods_Sleuth

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My county’s Indivisible group is contributing at least two full bus-loads to the Denver march. One of my nieces is planning to march with her husband and two sons. I’ll have to check the local news.

(With slightly guilty apologies to Charles — I’ve been seeing planning and rally notes about this march for at least two months on our county Indivisible Facebook page. I was going on the assumption that he’s got way better & more numerous info sources than I do.)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:34:07am
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SteelPH  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:35:06am

re: #407 Backwoods_Sleuth

I guess you could technically call bringing about a shutdown in record time an accomplishment…

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ObserverArt  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:35:15am

re: #320 SteelPH

Oh. It’s my birthday. Woo and stuff.

Happy Birthday! Hope you are doing well.

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Targetpractice  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:35:30am

re: #394 Backwoods_Sleuth

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And there goes the “They’re holding our armed forces hostage!” talking point.

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sagehen  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:35:36am

re: #397 Backwoods_Sleuth

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After a week of single-digit temps, it’s 50 degrees now.

God wants to make it easy for as many New Yorkers as possible to attend this march.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:35:48am
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BeachDem  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:36:51am

Meanwhile, at Mar-a-Gaudy:

…life-size cutouts of Trump himself, placed to accommodate the demand for selfies. But the night was windy and unkind to the Trumps: They kept blowing over. “Man down!” one guest shouted when a cardboard president fell over. A passer-by took the cutout’s baseball hat. Another guest propped him up again, and two posing women pretended to grope the president…

There were Palm Beach women in furs, and men in Palm Beach’s distinctive party footwear: hyper-expensive man-slippers. But others dressed in American flag suits and Uncle Sam hats, and still others dressed for a Trump rally, including one woman in an “I love English” button.

washingtonpost.com

Classy bunch.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:37:11am
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wrenchwench  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:37:51am
This is the first entry tagged: Fluffy Dogs

Thank dog that oversight has been rectified.

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dirkdigglerjr  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:38:42am

re: #408 SteelPH

“It’s a beautiful shutdown. I’ve been told it’s been the best shutdown in history. I’ve been getting letters from reporters telling me they’ve never seen a shutdown so massive and so impressive.”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:38:48am

re: #413 BeachDem

Classy KKKlassy bunch.

FIFY

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:39:13am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:39:14am

re: #412 Joe Bacon 🌹

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At one point, Bill Clinton’s adultery allegations were just a story too. Can’t stand Graham and I’m not fond of his father either whose own past is way overlooked in the attempts to make him into a living saint.

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Old Liberal  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:39:38am

re: #412 Joe Bacon 🌹

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From the Bible:
From the book of Matthew:
So Franklin wandered in the desert for 40 days without water or food. Then Trump took him to a very high mountain, and said “Behind, the kingdom, Merry Christmas, endorsing candidates, outlawing abortion, prayer in schools- all this I will give to you if you bow down and worship me”. Franklin took a knee.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:39:42am

re: #406 CleverToad

Mine is sending a contingent to the Oakland march, although I’m going to the one in San Francisco because it’s easier to get to — I’m recovering from a cold (or flu?) and have no stamina at all. At least I’ll show up for the rally, though I don’t know whether I’ll make it through the march.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:40:20am

re: #400 ObserverArt

Saw that bit posted by BeachDem about JD’s run for Ohio Senate coming to an end.

It should have never had a beginning.

What a putz. From “hillbilly” background to author of sketchy book to being pushed to run for a high office.

I guess it one of those only-in-America things.

I liked the first part of Hillbilly Elegy. I grew up in a very mixed neighborhood in Gary, Indiana, and the Appalachians on our block were always seen members of a separate ethic group, even among the other white people. And their sheer cussedness was a mater of pride and group identity.

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Skip Intro  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:41:37am

re: #413 BeachDem

Earlier in the night, Lara Trump had told this crowd that the president had sacrificed his life at this place in Florida for the good of the country.

He would much rather be down here every weekend, golfing, enjoying himself,” she said.

Uhh, umm, yeah but that’s what he does dear.

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Skip Intro  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:42:31am

re: #416 dirkdigglerjr

“It’s a beautiful shutdown. I’ve been told it’s been the best shutdown in history. I’ve been getting letters from reporters telling me they’ve never seen a shutdown so massive and so impressive.”

And fast! No president in history has shut down the government earlier in his term than Trump. No one.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:42:39am

re: #419 HappyWarrior

At one point, Bill Clinton’s adultery allegations were just a story too. Can’t stand Graham and I’m not fond of his father either whose own past is way overlooked in the attempts to make him into a living saint.

Harry Truman on Billy Graham, “He claims to be a friend of all the Presidents, but he was never a goddamn friend of mine!”

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ObserverArt  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:42:41am

re: #330 Backwoods_Sleuth

sure thing, Lindsey…go with that explanation.

Lindsey Graham

@LindseyGrahamSC
After extensive discussions with senators, I believe such a proposal would pass if there was a commitment that after February 8th the Senate would move to an immigration debate with an open amendment process if no alternative agreement was reached with the White House and House.

10:22 AM - Jan 20, 2018
80 80 Replies 31 31 Retweets 88 88 likes

Anyone that believes they can count on McConnell holding to any kind of deal promise to be done later is a gawd damned fool.

But we already knew that about Lindsey. Maybe he can ask Susan Collins.

Hmmm. She’s been rather quiet lately. I wonder why.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:43:39am

re: #423 Skip Intro

Earlier in the night, Lara Trump had told this crowd that the president had sacrificed his life at this place in Florida for the good of the country.

He would much rather be down here every weekend, golfing, enjoying himself,” she said.

Uhh, umm, yeah but that’s what he does dear.

Who held a gun to his head to make him run for president? Did I miss something?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:44:18am

re: #425 Joe Bacon 🌹

Harry Truman on Billy Graham, “He claims to be a friend of all the Presidents, but he was never a goddamn friend of mine!”

HST had a way with words didn’t he? Grandpa (Mom’s Dad) loved him. The narrative we always got was that the military hated when he fired Douglas MacArthur but Grandpa loved Truman for that. Truman was also gracious to Grandma’s cousins the Stranks, an immigrant family no less he visited Johnstown in 1948. I’m on record as liking Truman more than FDR.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:44:22am
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wrenchwench  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:45:31am

re: #422 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I liked the first part of Hillbilly Elegy I grew up in a very mixed neighborhood in Gary, Indiana, and the hillbillies on our block were always seen members of a separate ethic group, even among the other white people. And their sheer cussedness was a mater of pride and group identity.

My mean gramma used to refer to the people in the next neighborhood over as ‘hillbillies’. She didn’t mean it in a nice way, if there is one. That was in Joliet. I’m starting to think of it as Gary West.

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CleverToad  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:45:41am

re: #421 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

Mine is sending a contingent to the Oakland march, although I’m going to the one in San Francisco because it’s easier to get to — I’m recovering from a cold (or flu?) and have no stamina at all. At least I’ll show up for the rally, though I don’t know whether I’ll make it through the march.

Good on you for swelling the numbers for the camera! But please don’t overstrain yourself — this is a looooong epic, Frodo, and you don’t need a secondary infection knocking you back down again. Nasty viruses out there this year.

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ObserverArt  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:46:35am

re: #337 scottslemmons

I have a hard time believing Trump is carrying on with Nikki Haley when his Type is blondes who look like his daughter.

I’m sure he has a type. He’s also a hound dog. The itsy-bitsy, teeny-tiny brain in the wee little head does his thinking. When its working.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:47:13am

I got nothing…

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wrenchwench  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:47:48am

re: #408 SteelPH

I guess you could technically call bringing about a shutdown in record time an accomplishment…

Hey, birthday lizard. Have an upding.

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stpaulbear  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:47:59am

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:48:14am

re: #432 ObserverArt

I’m sure he has a type. He’s also a hound dog. The itsy-bitsy, teeny-tiny brain in the wee little head does his thinking. When its working.

Daddy always told me, “Son, when the little head gets hard the big head tends to get real soft…”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:48:29am

re: #433 Backwoods_Sleuth

“you made me cheat on you/beat you/go off on a bender and drink away our grocery money!”

Standard sociopath/abuser language.

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ObserverArt  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:49:19am

re: #338 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So, the oh-so-most honorable Frany Graham is basically calling all the women who make claims against Trump liars. They have not denied anything either. They stood up.

How very Christian of him.

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Skip Intro  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:49:28am

re: #428 HappyWarrior

I hope that’s true. I was struck by the Billy Graham scene in season 2 of The Crown. I’m still trying to find out if what was portrayed actually happened.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:49:49am
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Skip Intro  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:50:36am

re: #438 ObserverArt

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retired cynic  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:50:51am

re: #320 SteelPH

Oh. It’s my birthday. Woo and stuff.

Hey! Me, too! 7-0 here. Are you my older or younger?

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Renaissance_Man  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:51:41am

re: #442 retired cynic

Hey! Me, too! 7-0 here. Are you my older or younger?

IwggNX/QUlybY5/Ep1pjgJ/xQTJwPQnR

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:51:45am

re: #438 ObserverArt

So, the oh-so-most honorable Frany Graham is basically calling all the women who make claims against Trump liars. They have not denied anything either. They stood up.

How very Christian of him.

he knows the difference between a lying harlot and a man of honor

/

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:52:08am

Come on Facebook. I haev three friends who like Prager University. I post liberal stuff all the time. You know I don’t want to “like” this.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:54:39am

re: #439 Skip Intro

I hope that’s true. I was struck by the Billy Graham scene in season 2 of The Crown. I’m still trying to find out if what was portrayed actually happened.

Just listen to the clip from the Nixon tapes that have Billy Graham reveal what an anti-Semite he is.

theguardian.com

Graham begins by advising Nixon on campaign strategy. The evangelist has been invited to lunch at Time magazine. “You better take your Jewish beanie” (yarmulke), Haldeman jokes. Nixon is in darker mood. He broaches something that “we can’t talk about publicly” - Jewish influence in the media. All the big news organs are “totally dominated by the Jews”. Graham agrees, adding, piously, that it is the Jews “who are putting out the pornographic stuff”.

The three men concur that “the best Jews are actually the Israeli Jews”. The American Jews are traitors (the Vietnam war was still raging). Nixon contends that “every Democratic candidate will owe his election to Jewish people”.

This stranglehold has got to be broken or this country’s going down the drain,” Graham solemnly declares. “You believe that?” Nixon asks. “Yes, sir,” Graham replies. “Oh, boy,” replies Nixon. “So do I. I can’t ever say that but I believe it.” Graham agrees. It can never be said publicly: “But if you get elected a second time, then we might be able to do something.” Nixon did, of course, get his second term.

Fuck Billy Graham and that goes double for his gay and lesbian hating daughter and triple for his bigoted and racist son!

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wrenchwench  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:55:33am

re: #442 retired cynic

Hey! Me, too! 7-0 here. Are you my older or younger?

Congratulations and many happy returns! I’m still making the adjustment from ‘gonna turn 60’ to ‘did turn 60’. It happened last Sunday.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:56:38am

re: #445 HappyWarrior

Prager is flooding Youtube and Facebook right now.

Any time I go to either without the shields all the way up, that’s the ads I get.

I suspect it’s region-targeted, because I’m also getting wingnut ads for KY politics, including several ugly digs at McConnell.

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retired cynic  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:56:54am

re: #344 Joe Bacon 🌹

Unsubscribe NYT. I did.

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meteor  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:57:41am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:57:58am

re: #446 Joe Bacon 🌹

Just listen to the clip from the Nixon tapes that have Billy Graham reveal what an anti-Semite he is.

theguardian.com

Graham begins by advising Nixon on campaign strategy. The evangelist has been invited to lunch at Time magazine. “You better take your Jewish beanie” (yarmulke), Haldeman jokes. Nixon is in darker mood. He broaches something that “we can’t talk about publicly” - Jewish influence in the media. All the big news organs are “totally dominated by the Jews”. Graham agrees, adding, piously, that it is the Jews “who are putting out the pornographic stuff”.

The three men concur that “the best Jews are actually the Israeli Jews”. The American Jews are traitors (the Vietnam war was still raging). Nixon contends that “every Democratic candidate will owe his election to Jewish people”.

This stranglehold has got to be broken or this country’s going down the drain,” Graham solemnly declares. “You believe that?” Nixon asks. “Yes, sir,” Graham replies. “Oh, boy,” replies Nixon. “So do I. I can’t ever say that but I believe it.” Graham agrees. It can never be said publicly: “But if you get elected a second time, then we might be able to do something.” Nixon did, of course, get his second term.

Fuck Billy Graham and that goes double for his gay and lesbian hating daughter and triple for his bigoted and racist son!

That’s exactly why I’m not a fan of Billy Graham. I’m sure if you go back to Billy’s past, I’m sure you’ll find some Anti-Catholicism too.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:58:21am

re: #428 HappyWarrior

HST had a way with words didn’t he? Grandpa (Mom’s Dad) loved him. The narrative we always got was that the military hated when he fired Douglas MacArthur but Grandpa loved Truman for that. Truman was also gracious to Grandma’s cousins the Stranks, an immigrant family no less he visited Johnstown in 1948. I’m on record as liking Truman more than FDR.

My dad (WW2 vet) despised MacArthur. Called him a “….goddamn prima donna”.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:58:54am

re: #448 The Ghost of a Flea

Prager is flooding Youtube and Facebook right now.

Any time I go to either without the shields all the way up, that’s the ads I get.

I suspect it’s region-targeted, because I’m also getting wingnut ads for KY politics, including several ugly digs at McConnell.

Yeah I’m seeing the video from the former Young Turks guy. All I need to know about Dennis Prager is that he inspired Officer Barbrady on South Park.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:59:12am

re: #449 retired cynic

Unsubscribe NYT. I did.

I gave up on the Screw York Times when they joined forces with the Washington Post and Lies Angeles Times to destroy Gary Webb for exposing Contra Cocaine in South Central Los Angeles. They destroyed his career and drove him to suicide.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:00:06am

re: #452 Dr Lizardo

My dad (WW2 vet) despised MacArthur. Called him a “….goddamn prima donna”.

Your Dad would be right. Grandpa wasn’t a big Patton fan either. He liked Monty and Omar Bradley. Make no mistake, Mac and Patton were great generals but Bradley is the most underrated American WWII general IMO. A soldier’s soldier which I think is the best compliment you can give to an officer.

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Citizen K  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:00:14am

re: #448 The Ghost of a Flea

Prager U, put succinctly in potholer’s videos calling them out, “The Blog That Thinks It’s A University”

Welcome to PragerU — the blog that thinks it’s a university

Welcome to PragerU — Part 2

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plansbandc  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:00:45am

re: #320 SteelPH

Happy Birthday SPH!

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ObserverArt  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:00:56am

re: #390 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I like that video. Someone knew a good way to start it and tell a story with a little jab tossed in.

With all the talk about Trump crowd size at his inauguration, and crowd size comparison in general, this video starts with a few people in the street then travels around and pulls back to show the mass.

Nice.

I can imagine some seeing that initial image and first few seconds are thinking “pfft…not that many showing up…big resist there liberals.”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:00:59am

re: #451 HappyWarrior

That’s exactly why I’m not a fan of Billy Graham. I’m sure if you go back to Billy’s past, I’m sure you’ll find some Anti-Catholicism too.

Go all the way back to when William Randloph Hearst “puffed Graham” in his papers and ignored that Billy’s initial gigs were racially segregated.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:01:12am

re: #452 Dr Lizardo

Read Halberstam’s “The Coldest Winter.”

Prima donna is freaking kind. The man was a narcissist loon who couldn’t admit when he fucked up, ever.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:01:21am

re: #454 Joe Bacon 🌹

I gave up on the Screw York Times when they joined forces with the Washington Post and Lies Angeles Times to destroy Gary Webb for exposing Contra Cocaine in South Central Los Angeles. They destroyed his career and drove him to suicide.

Did you see the Jeremy Renner movie about Webb? I forget the name off the top of my head but it was wow. And the Contra cocaine stuff makes me sick thinking about how Reagan was pushing the Drug War shit while doing that.

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wrenchwench  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:01:37am

re: #452 Dr Lizardo

My dad (WW2 vet) despised MacArthur. Called him a “….goddamn prima donna”.

To his face?

/

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plansbandc  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:02:12am

re: #442 retired cynic

Happy Birthday to you!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:02:23am

re: #461 HappyWarrior

Did you see the Jeremy Renner movie about Webb? I forget the name off the top of my head but it was wow. And the Contra cocaine stuff makes me sick thinking about how Reagan was pushing the Drug War shit while doing that.

Friends living in South Central KNEW what Blandon and Oliver North were doing. And North got away with it!

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Skip Intro  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:02:46am

re: #432 ObserverArt

I’m sure he has a type. He’s also a hound dog. The itsy-bitsy, teeny-tiny brain in the wee little head does his thinking. When its working.

From The Book.

Over the course of next seventy-two hours or so, the senior staff found itself wholly separate from—and, once again, looking on in astonishment at—the actions of the president’s innermost circle of aides. In this, the relationship of the president and Hope Hicks, long tolerated as a quaint bond between the older man and a trustworthy young woman, began to be seen as anomalous and alarming. Completely devoted to accommodating him, she, his media facilitator, was the ultimate facilitator of unmediated behavior. His impulses and thoughts—unedited, unreviewed, unchallenged—not only passed through him, but, via Hicks, traveled out into the world without any other White House arbitration. “The problem isn’t Twitter, it’s Hope,” observed one communication staffer.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:02:54am

re: #461 HappyWarrior

Did you see the Jeremy Renner movie about Webb? I forget the name off the top of my head but it was wow. And the Contra cocaine stuff makes me sick thinking about how Reagan was pushing the Drug War shit while doing that.

Yes.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:03:58am

re: #456 Citizen K

It represents how the people running “Prager U” think about knowledge. If you just recite something confidently and dismiss disagreement as unserious, something’s true. Thus formal education can be substituted by a feeding tube of talking points, and skepticism and formal evaluation of veracity are hostile agents.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:04:45am

re: #464 Joe Bacon 🌹

Friends living in South Central KNEW what Blandon and Oliver North were doing. And North got away with it!

Ollie lives nearby here. His grandson used to be in my kid brother’s cub scout troop before my brother quit. You’ll love this Joe but when North ran against Robb here in Va in 1994, North was at the annual Slavic festival my grandparents went to and now I go to, North attempted to shake my grandpa’s hand, Grandpa only responded “Robb’s got ya.” Ended up being right heh. Robb wasn’t a perfect Senator by any means but he was better than North would have been and I’ll always appreciate he had the wisdom to oppose DOMA as early s as 1996 as a Southern elected official back when this state was a lot redder than it is now.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:06:17am

re: #467 The Ghost of a Flea

It represents how the people running “Prager U” think about knowledge. If you just recite something confidently and dismiss disagreement as unserious, something’s true. Thus formal education can be substituted by a feeding tube of talking points, and skepticism and formal evaluation of veracity are hostile agents.

The one thing I will give Prager grudging credit for is they did post that West Point instructor saying the Civil War was unequivocally about slavery and the professor used the CSA’s own founding documents to make that point. Other than that? They’re crap. The people I know who like them on FB post wingnut shit.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:07:21am

re: #460 The Ghost of a Flea

Read Halberstam’s “The Coldest Winter.”

Prima donna is freaking kind. The man was a narcissist loon who couldn’t admit when he fucked up, ever.

My dad told me the story (apocryphal, I assume) that Mac left a couple of US Army nurses behind when he evacuated the Philippines. Apparently, there was no room for them.

See, he’d evacuated his office furniture and sadly, those poor nurses just had to suck it up and stay behind.

Another story he told me was about MacArthur’s “I have returned” newsreel footage - it was filmed more than once. In one instance, he got knocked over by a wave. Heh.

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Targetpractice  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:07:50am

re: #433 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I got nothing…

“They can’t understand why the DNC want us to keep our word when really they should just knuckle under to us and let us get our way!”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:09:01am

re: #469 HappyWarrior

The one thing I will give Prager grudging credit for is they did post that West Point instructor saying the Civil War was unequivocally about slavery and the professor used the CSA’s own founding documents to make that point. Other than that? They’re crap. The people I know who like them on FB post wingnut shit.

Prager got his start at KABC here in Los Angeles as a hate radio talker. He always ranted about Maxine Waters. Still remember the time he got her on the phone and she just punked his sorry ass!

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:10:23am

re: #472 Joe Bacon 🌹

Prager got his start at KABC here in Los Angeles as a hate radio talker. He always ranted about Maxine Waters. Still remember the time he got her on the phone and she just punked his sorry ass!

Yeah he’s a LA based guy, that’s probably how Stone and Parker heard about him.

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SteelPH  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:10:30am

re: #442 retired cynic

Hey! Me, too! 7-0 here. Are you my older or younger?

I’m 31 now.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:11:22am

re: #470 Dr Lizardo

As a kid I always got the film-friendly version of MacArthur, and had no idea that his withdrawal from the Philippines wasn’t a brilliant tactical move, but a giant mess that left many people in the lurch. And that all that “I shall return” crap was in the context of him acting like a fucking colonial raja with the natives.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:11:31am

re: #474 SteelPH

I’m 31 now.

So I am the Baby heh. You’re nearly six months older than me exactly. Happy B-Day dude.

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William Lewis  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:11:35am

re: #425 Joe Bacon 🌹

Harry Truman on Billy Graham, “He claims to be a friend of all the Presidents, but he was never a goddamn friend of mine!”

I do think there is a difference between father and son in the Grahams and that the son is by far the worse example. And that’s knowing damn well about the White House tapes of Nixon and Graham and their antisemitism among other issues with ol’ Billy. But the son did not fall far from the Grifter tree.

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SteelPH  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:12:36am

re: #442 retired cynic

Hey! Me, too! 7-0 here. Are you my older or younger?

Oh and happy birthday to you too!

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ObserverArt  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:12:59am

re: #428 HappyWarrior

HST had a way with words didn’t he? Grandpa (Mom’s Dad) loved him. The narrative we always got was that the military hated when he fired Douglas MacArthur but Grandpa loved Truman for that. Truman was also gracious to Grandma’s cousins the Stranks, an immigrant family no less he visited Johnstown in 1948. I’m on record as liking Truman more than FDR.

Give ‘em hell Harry was the first actual simple speaking common man President. It’s one reason he wasn’t all that well liked.

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Citizen K  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:13:26am

re: #467 The Ghost of a Flea

It represents how the people running “Prager U” think about knowledge. If you just recite something confidently and dismiss disagreement as unserious, something’s true. Thus formal education can be substituted by a feeding tube of talking points, and skepticism and formal evaluation of veracity are hostile agents.

It’s the Newt Gingrich school of ‘Intellectualism’: if you feel it hard enough and convince yourself hard enough, it’s just as valid or even moreso than actual verifiable fact.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:14:20am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:14:24am

re: #475 The Ghost of a Flea

As a kid I always got the film-friendly version of MacArthur, and had no idea that his withdrawal from the Philippines wasn’t a brilliant tactical move, but a giant mess that left many people in the lurch. And that all that “I shall return” crap was in the context of him acting like a fucking colonial raja with the natives.

That’s the version of MacArthur and Patton that Trump seems to have gotten too. Everyone of his supporters complains about how we’re too sensitive now but the famous slapping incident caused an outrage then as it should have. I don’t doubt that Patton was one of our best generals but he was a pretty shitty person and I’m glad we got Ike as the general we elected after WWII and not him or Douggie Mac. Another WWII general I admire is Marshall. It was the trashing of Marshall by McCarthy and his allies and Eisenhower’s TBH cowardice on that issue that really disgusted Truman. I still like Ike but Ike’s silence on that along with a certain Tricky Dick running mate he had would have made me vote for Adlai.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:15:08am

re: #477 William Lewis

I do think there is a difference between father and son in the Grahams and that the son is by far the worse example. And that’s knowing damn well about the White House tapes of Nixon and Graham and their antisemitism among other issues with ol’ Billy. But the son did not fall far from the Grifter tree.

I do think so too.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:15:59am

re: #475 The Ghost of a Flea

As a kid I always got the film-friendly version of MacArthur, and had no idea that his withdrawal from the Philippines wasn’t a brilliant tactical move, but a giant mess that left many people in the lurch. And that all that “I shall return” crap was in the context of him acting like a fucking colonial raja with the natives.

He let the US air forces get destroyed on the ground despite a day’s advance warning.

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ObserverArt  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:16:13am

re: #430 wrenchwench

My mean gramma used to refer to the people in the next neighborhood over as ‘hillbillies’. She didn’t mean it in a nice way, if there is one. That was in Joliet. I’m starting to think of it as Gary West.

Pecking Order
peck*ing or*der
ˈpekiNG ˌôrdər/
noun
a hierarchy of status seen among members of a group of people or animals, originally as observed among hens.
“the luxurious office accentuated the manager’s position in the pecking order”

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:17:47am

re: #479 ObserverArt

Give ‘em hell Harry was the first actual simple speaking common man President. It’s one reason he wasn’t all that well liked.

He actually did tell things as they were unlike Trump. For some reason according to my Dad’s cousin, Dad’s grandfather didn’t like HST. Surprises me since both he and HST were of fairly modest backgrounds but HST is someone who has become much more appreciated after he left too. I was watching David McCullough interviewed, McCullough said he got to thinking about Truman based on a memory he had talking with his father during Watergate or something like that, and the older McCullough apparently hated Truman during his presidency but Watergate made him pine for HST. I love Truman. He did a lot of bold things that FDR never would have because FDR feared alienating the Southern bloc.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:18:53am

re: #481 Backwoods_Sleuth

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New York, can we (the entire US) borrow him when we need a new AG to replace Snapcrackledpop? Seriously, this guy is the best. A fine public servant.

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ObserverArt  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:18:54am

re: #433 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

I got nothing…

Shorter Mitch:

I’m Melting!

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wrenchwench  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:19:22am

re: #485 ObserverArt

Pecking Order
peck*ing or*der
ˈpekiNG ˌôrdər/
noun
a hierarchy of status seen among members of a group of people or animals, originally as observed among hens.
“the luxurious office accentuated the manager’s position in the pecking order”

It wasn’t enough to go to a Catholic Church. She had to know, ‘which Catholic church?’

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:19:51am

re: #479 ObserverArt

Give ‘em hell Harry was the first actual simple speaking common man President. It’s one reason he wasn’t all that well liked.

Before Stalin met Truman, he’d derided him as “the haberdasher from Missouri”. He came to develop a grudging respect for Truman.

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ObserverArt  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:21:41am

re: #442 retired cynic

Hey! Me, too! 7-0 here. Are you my older or younger?

We’re having a big ol’ Birthday Party here today.

Happy Birthday cynic!

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:22:26am

re: #490 Dr Lizardo

Before Stalin met Truman, he’d derided him as “the haberdasher from Missouri”. He came to develop a grudging respect for Truman.

Pretty interesting considering Stalin was the cobber’s kid from Gori. A lot of people underestimated Truman left and right. He was by far FDR’s best VP. I’ve seen a lot of far lefties bellyache that it would have been better had he kept Henry Wallace but Henry Wallace was very naive about the USSR. He did grow wiser with age apparently.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:24:41am

re: #492 HappyWarrior

Pretty interesting considering Stalin was the cobber’s kid from Gori. A lot of people underestimated Truman left and right. He was by far FDR’s best VP. I’ve seen a lot of far lefties bellyache that it would have been better had he kept Henry Wallace but Henry Wallace was very naive about the USSR. He did grow wiser with age apparently.

amongst the family’s coin and memento box, I found an old Dewey/Warren pin.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:25:06am

I’m of the belief that there was a part of the left I think perhaps understandably naive about the USSR given the spirit of cooperation that we experienced during the war. On the other hand, the post WWII right’s attacks on anyone who remotely sympathized with Communism/Socialism in the dark days of the Depression was disgusting.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:25:58am

re: #493 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

amongst the family’s coin and memento box, I found an old Dewey/Warren pin.

Not a bad ticket really. But Truman-Barkley was the right choice.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:26:01am

re: #480 Citizen K

It’s the Newt Gingrich school of ‘Intellectualism’: if you feel it hard enough and convince yourself hard enough, it’s just as valid or even moreso than actual verifiable fact.

Accurate.

I’ve severed at least one relationship in the last year because that person insisted that he was “smart” but refused to do any reading or research. I’d give them specific things to look at, cite sources, make diagrams, but he could simply dismiss anything…even me knowing more about the specifics of the anecdotes and factoids he referenced than he did. That he felt things made them valid; that I felt things didn’t make them valid.

And this wasn’t even in a political context.

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ObserverArt  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:27:38am

re: #459 Joe Bacon 🌹

Go all the way back to when William Randloph Hearst “puffed Graham” in his papers and ignored that Billy’s initial gigs were racially segregated.

I don’t know if I would have used the word ignored when talking about Hearst in this example. If you know what I mean.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:29:08am

re: #496 The Ghost of a Flea

Accurate.

I’ve severed at least one relationship in the last year because that person insisted that he was “smart” but refused to do any reading or research. I’d give them specific things to look at, cite sources, make diagrams, but he could simply dismiss anything…even me knowing more about the specifics of the anecdotes and factoids he referenced than he did. That he felt things made them valid; that I felt things didn’t make them valid.

And this wasn’t even in a political context.

I got real annoyed when my friend completely dismissed Snopes as liberal propaganda when I told him he was wrong about Elizabeth Warren when I called out Trump for hte Pocahontas stupidity he pulled during the Windtalkers ceremony. He posted a stupid meme and I pointed out to him very sharply that he was wrong about Warren and I got some crap about how Snopes was lefty propaganda because there was a story he felt they had gotten wrong. Thought that was pretty rich since he posts stuff that can easily be debunked all the time like the whole Obama voter fraud bs. But I didn’t want a fight. I know that the few in comparison conservatives I know are outnumbered by my liberal friends so they’re going to get ganged up in numbers if they post stupid shit on my TL so I try to give them a way out without looking like total fools.

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ObserverArt  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:29:20am

re: #461 HappyWarrior

Did you see the Jeremy Renner movie about Webb? I forget the name off the top of my head but it was wow. And the Contra cocaine stuff makes me sick thinking about how Reagan was pushing the Drug War shit while doing that.

Just Say No!

America should have said no to Reagan. Especially the second time.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:30:22am
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retired cynic  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:30:24am

re: #470 Dr Lizardo

My dad told me the story (apocryphal, I assume) that Mac left a couple of US Army nurses behind when he evacuated the Philippines. Apparently, there was no room for them.

See, he’d evacuated his office furniture and sadly, those poor nurses just had to suck it up and stay behind.

Another story he told me was about MacArthur’s “I have returned” newsreel footage - it was filmed more than once. In one instance, he got knocked over by a wave. Heh.

My husband told me that story about the household goods and the nurses. He was Korean War Navy, and went to college with a guy attending on the GI bill. That guy told him that story.

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William Lewis  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:31:09am

re: #470 Dr Lizardo

My dad told me the story (apocryphal, I assume) that Mac left a couple of US Army nurses behind when he evacuated the Philippines. Apparently, there was no room for them.

See, he’d evacuated his office furniture and sadly, those poor nurses just had to suck it up and stay behind.

Another story he told me was about MacArthur’s “I have returned” newsreel footage - it was filmed more than once. In one instance, he got knocked over by a wave. Heh.

I had heard about the filming though not about the nurses. He should have been shot for how criminally unprepared the PI was for the war. Still I will grant the one thing he did well was managing the Japanese transition to democracy after the war.

I have little regard for most of our generals in WWII. The best two were not on the field of battle - Ike & Marshall. Patton or Bradley? Who cares! At least they weren’t quite as bad as Monty but that’s not saying much.

No, we won the war despite our generals because we had such excellent officers at the company to brigade level able to deal with situations as they happened. See Ltc (later 4 star & tank namesake) Creighton Abrams or Capt Charles B. MacDonald (author of several volumes about the battle of the Bulge as well as the exquisite memoir “Company Commander”)

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:31:53am

re: #499 ObserverArt

Just Say No!

America should have said no to Reagan. Especially the second time.

I despise Reagan because Reagan dismantled the Middle Class that people like my Dad’s Dad tried to build through agencies like the NLRB. He pretty much fired his protege too.
en.wikipedia.org

Mr. Truesdale was a gentleman. He was nice enough to come to the ceremony my dad and his siblings had for my Nana when she passed away and was a frequent guest when my Dad was growing up before he settled down and had a family of his own.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:32:51am

re: #502 William Lewis

I had heard about the filming though not about the nurses. He should have been shot for how criminally unprepared the PI was for the war. Still I will grant the one thing he did well was managing the Japanese transition to democracy after the war.

I have little regard for most of our generals in WWII. The best two were not on the field of battle - Ike & Marshall. Patton or Bradley? Who cares! At least they weren’t quite as bad as Monty but that’s not saying much.

No, we won the war despite our generals because we had such excellent officers at the company to brigade level able to deal with situations as they happened. See Ltc (later 4 star & tank namesake) Creighton Abrams or Capt Charles B. MacDonald (author of several volumes about the battle of the Bulge as well as the exquisite memoir “Company Commander”)

Dick Winters. Fine man. We also had great NCOs like my cousin, Mike Strank too.

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retired cynic  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:32:51am

re: #482 HappyWarrior

That’s the version of MacArthur and Patton that Trump seems to have gotten too. Everyone of his supporters complains about how we’re too sensitive now but the famous slapping incident caused an outrage then as it should have. I don’t doubt that Patton was one of our best generals but he was a pretty shitty person and I’m glad we got Ike as the general we elected after WWII and not him or Douggie Mac. Another WWII general I admire is Marshall. It was the trashing of Marshall by McCarthy and his allies and Eisenhower’s TBH cowardice on that issue that really disgusted Truman. I still like Ike but Ike’s silence on that along with a certain Tricky Dick running mate he had would have made me vote for Adlai.

General Marshall was The Man.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:33:03am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:34:17am

re: #505 retired cynic

General Marshall was The Man.

The high school named after him here in NOVA and my father’s alma mater no less is aptly named the Statesmen and General Marshall was just that.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:35:40am

re: #506 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I’m really glad that under Perez we are showing how much we appreciate PoC and women voters. People like me aren’t our party’s base.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:35:59am

Looks like a disaster just happened in Prague (well, what would be considered a disaster by Czech standards): a hotel fire has left two dead and dozens injured. It’s a three-alarm blaze.

The hotel is burning in the center of Prague. Third-degree fire engages volunteer and professional firefighters from a wide range. The rescuers activated the trauma.

Prague - Prague Firefighters intervene at the fire of a hotel in Náplavní Street near Masarykovo nábřeží in New Town. There are about 40 people in the building who have been evacuated by firefighters. Information on the number or condition of the wounded is not yet, but the rescue service has already activated the trauma plan, sending a number of vehicles to the site of the fire, including the Atego, which is used to carry a larger number of injured in emergencies. The third level of fire alarm was announced by Martin Kavka, spokesman for Prague firefighters, on Twitter.

“There are firefighters in the vicinity of almost all professional stations. There are more people in the building who need to evacuate,” added Kavka. In the place of fires, the rescue service cars - two with doctors, four rescue workers, inspector and Atego - were launched by fire, said spokeswoman Jan Poštová. The wounded would still be forty people.

The director of Prague firefighters, Roman Hlinovský, is heading for the fire. Due to the fire the operation of tram number 5 was interrupted between Jirásek Square and Myslíkova stop.

Firefighters recognize a total of four alarm levels, the most serious being the fourth, which is only announced in emergencies.

The headline has the updated info on casualties.

zpravy.aktualne.cz (in Czech)

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:36:03am

Looks like a good crowd on a cold LA day downtown.

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gwangung  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:37:54am

re: #508 HappyWarrior

I’m really glad that under Perez we are showing how much we appreciate PoC and women voters. People like me aren’t our party’s base.

That’s good, but state and local party organizations need to follow up and live up to those words. There’s still a lot of lip service by white managers and political figures.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:38:15am

!!!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:38:29am
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Dr Lizardo  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:39:33am

re: #512 Backwoods_Sleuth

Like I’ve said before, the next Democratic POTUS is gonna have to dissolve ICE and replace it with another agency.

ICE is becoming an American Gestapo.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:40:16am

re: #512 Backwoods_Sleuth

!!!

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William Lewis  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:40:36am

re: #504 HappyWarrior

Dick Winters. Fine man. We also had great NCOs like my cousin, Mike Strank too.

Exactly. Those men won the war. Not the egos near the top. The two at the very top put the “stuff” in the right places and let the troops do what they had to do.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:40:52am

re: #514 Dr Lizardo

Like I’ve said before, the next Democratic POTUS is gonna have to dissolve ICE and replace it with another agency.

ICE is becoming an American Gestapo.

Deportation force, as was projected.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:41:30am
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Ace-o-aces  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:42:08am
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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:44:07am

re: #517 Stanley Sea

Live video from LA
cnn.com

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sagehen  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:45:25am

re: #454 Joe Bacon 🌹

I gave up on the Screw York Times when they joined forces with the Washington Post and Lies Angeles Times to destroy Gary Webb for exposing Contra Cocaine in South Central Los Angeles. They destroyed his career and drove him to suicide.

They say it was suicide, but… how many suicides shoot themselves in the head twice?!?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:46:11am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:47:35am
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ObserverArt  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:49:49am

Anyone else loving the political optics today? You have McConnell standing at his podium crying about Democrat’s tactics and being forced to say no to everything and thousands of people out on the streets demonstrating.

I bet Trump is seething. He loves optics. He won’t like these. But he will Tweet angrily about them.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:50:10am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:51:03am

re: #524 ObserverArt

Anyone else loving the political optics today? You have McConnell standing at his podium crying about Democrat’s tactics and being forced to say no toeverything and thousands of people out on the streets demonstrating.

I bet Trump is seething. He loves optics. He won’t like these. But he will Tweet angrily about them.

hey Art! Thought you’d enjoy this tweet from last night:

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Citizen K  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:52:32am

re: #496 The Ghost of a Flea

There’s a deep crossover there with Dunning-Kruger, where not only does someone ignorant not realize their ignorance, but the further down the line they are, the more they mistake their own ignorance for expertise.

re: #512 Backwoods_Sleuth

To be fair, there’s a lot of brown people in them there parts of Florida, and we all know you can’t be American AND Brown at the same time… ////////

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ObserverArt  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:55:06am

re: #526 Backwoods_Sleuth

hey Art! Thought you’d enjoy this tweet from last night:

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Love it.

I’ve been bombing Robby daily. Got on him for ICE activities and immigration on Wednesday, and dumped on him for no budget deal and having to shut down the government yet blaming Democrats yesterday.

I hope he hates me. It would be mutual.

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sagehen  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:55:20am

re: #459 Joe Bacon 🌹

Go all the way back to when William Randloph Hearst “puffed Graham” in his papers and ignored that Billy’s initial gigs were racially segregated.

William Randolph Hearst is the reason marijuana is illegal.

He yellow-newspapered a panic about it mostly because he worried that large-scale hemp farming for the manufacture of paper would be detrimental to his timber interests.

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William Lewis  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:58:21am

re: #529 sagehen

William Randolph Hearst is the reason marijuana is illegal.

He yellow-newspapered a panic about it mostly because he worried that large-scale hemp farming for the manufacture of paper would be detrimental to his timber interests.

That and white kids in colleges were starting to smoke it too. As long as it was just black & brown folks, it didn’t matter…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:58:38am
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Dr Lizardo  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:59:28am

re: #527 Citizen K

There’s a deep crossover there with Dunning-Kruger, where not only does someone ignorant not realize their ignorance, but the further down the line they are, the more they mistake their own ignorance for expertise.

To be fair, there’s a lot of brown people in them there parts of Florida, and we all know you can’t be American AND Brown at the same time… ////////

I was explaining Dunning-Kruger to one of my students last week; she simply couldn’t believe what I was telling her, so I referred her to the Czech-language Wikipedia. She perused it and to say she was flabbergasted is an understatement.

It’s the same here - the second round of presidential elections is coming up in one week. The incumbent, Miloš Zeman, is a populist demagogue who’s broadly supported by those with only a high-school education or less. His opponent, Jiři Drahoš, is supported by the educated segment of society. There’s similar divisions….urban vs. rural, highly educated vs. less educated, “elites” vs. “the common man”.

Right now - it’s too close to call. It’s pretty much 50/50, even though bookmakers are giving a slight advantage to Professor Drahoš.

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dangerman  Jan 20, 2018 • 11:01:02am

re: #407 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump Pens Op-Ed Bragging About Accomplishments Hours After He Shuts Down Government

I call bullshit

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Citizen K  Jan 20, 2018 • 11:02:29am

re: #532 Dr Lizardo

Considering what’s happening in countries not too far from there, I don’t have terribly high hopes.

And yes, Dunning-Kruger is a fantastically un-intuitive piece of self-mindfuckery the human brain does, but it’s hard to deny it. It’s the same thing with the backfire effect, where the mind entrenches itself so much in its way of thinking that, like the good ol’ conspiracist’s way, proof against something becomes twisted as proof for something, and already held beliefs simply further solidify.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 20, 2018 • 11:03:27am

re: #533 dangerman

I call bullshit

Trump Crayons Op/Ed?

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Kilroy was here  Jan 20, 2018 • 11:07:00am

Oh Trumpy is going to love this..

Schumer: Negotiating with Trump ‘like negotiating with Jell-O’
thehill.com

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dangerman  Jan 20, 2018 • 11:08:06am

re: #433 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I got nothing…

Gorsuch *cough* gorsuch

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 20, 2018 • 11:08:32am
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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 20, 2018 • 11:08:47am

After eating, LWC and I are going downtown.

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dangerman  Jan 20, 2018 • 11:09:39am

re: #438 ObserverArt

So, the oh-so-most honorable Frany Graham is basically calling all the women who make claims against Trump liars. They have not denied anything either. They stood up.

How very Christian of him.

Trump is a man. Qed

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wrenchwench  Jan 20, 2018 • 11:16:32am

re: #539 Unshaken Defiance

After eating, LWC and I are going downtown.

Pix or it didn’t happen.

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sagehen  Jan 20, 2018 • 11:21:50am
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dangerman  Jan 20, 2018 • 11:23:55am

re: #535 Blind Frog Belly White

Trump Crayons Op/Ed?

Ok that way too

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 20, 2018 • 11:25:09am

The hotel fire in Prague I posted about earlier was at the Eurostars David Hotel, a four-star rated hotel. I know where this place is - it was really close to a now-defunct school I taught at for a couple of years.

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Citizen K  Jan 20, 2018 • 11:35:24am

Exhibit A in how the NYT’s shtick does nothing for the truth and simply gives cover for the mendacious and the cruel.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 11:37:09am

The Women’s March is going on now in Nebraska, in Lincoln (the capital), Omaha (the largest city), and Loup City (population 1,000).

Last year in Loup City they turned out about 400 people.

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plansbandc  Jan 20, 2018 • 11:37:41am

Saturday afternoon walking music…

Devo - Freedom Of Choice (Video)

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 20, 2018 • 11:39:03am

re: #541 wrenchwench

Pix or it didn’t happen.

I’m thinkin a little live video. FB? Twitter?

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allegro  Jan 20, 2018 • 11:43:14am

There’s a march now going on in Houston as well. I was planning to go but hard-freeze issues (my rig did not go unscathed) have demanded priority. Like running water importance. I had none since Monday and only just a few minutes ago got it temporarily resolved. Keeping in touch with a few friends who are there via texts.

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sagehen  Jan 20, 2018 • 11:43:48am

re: #546 Anymouse 🌹

The Women’s March is going on now in Nebraska, in Lincoln (the capital), Omaha (the largest city), and Loup City (population 1,000).

Last year in Loup City they turned out about 400 people.

Is that within commutable range for you?

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 11:44:30am

re: #550 sagehen

Is that within commutable range for you?

No, all three places are on the other side of the state.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 20, 2018 • 11:45:24am
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wrenchwench  Jan 20, 2018 • 11:45:26am

re: #548 Unshaken Defiance

I’m thinkin a little live video. FB?

I have no FB. Or I can pretend I have none until I log in again, which is always available whether I want it or not. I’m waiting for Zuckerberg to apologize for taking rubles in 2016. Is that the ‘FB’ you were referring to?

Spellcheck wants to make him Rubbernecker.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 20, 2018 • 11:47:21am

re: #552 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He’s making her have to come forward.

Typical cretin.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 20, 2018 • 11:48:26am

re: #554 Stanley Sea

He’s making her have to come forward.

Typical cretin.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 20, 2018 • 11:50:37am

Counter post

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 11:51:19am

re: #556 Stanley Sea

Counter post

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Good deal.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 11:51:46am

So much for “Hillary doesn’t inspire people.”

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Semper Fi  Jan 20, 2018 • 11:52:38am

re: #264 Shropshire Slasher

My second attempt at potato pancakes. This time I squeezed out the excess water and I used my hamburger press to make cute little patties. I didn’t add the onion, the last time my eyes were burning the next day. Yes, you can add too many onions.

Yes, squeeze out the excess water. My father, gone 35 yrs, always made the best potato pancakes. The batter always included a finely chopped onion and 1 egg as a binder (careful not to get the batter runny) If he thought the batter too runny he would dust then mix in a bit of flour. He fried them on a very hot iron skillet in a generous amount of pure bacon grease.
The end result was a pancake crispy along the edges and slightly so on top. Outrageously good.
In those days we had bacon almost daily and placed the excess in a Crisco can which was kept on the stove top and used as needed for frying eggs, etc. My present health problems are reminders of those wonderful days.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jan 20, 2018 • 11:53:25am

I’m at the Civic Center. Not jammed yet, but people are still arriving. I found a rail to lean against, and I’m hanging in there. Definitely not marching (curse all viruses and nasty AC units that enable them).

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Stanley Sea  Jan 20, 2018 • 11:53:46am

re: #559 Semper Fi

YOLO

sounds so yum

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 11:55:35am

The nearest Women’s march to me would be Cheyenne, Wyo. (130 miles), going on now.

Hundreds Join Wyoming Women’s March in Cheyenne (goes to KGAB, with video)

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makeitstop  Jan 20, 2018 • 11:55:49am

re: #524 ObserverArt

Anyone else loving the political optics today? You have McConnell standing at his podium crying about Democrat’s tactics and being forced to say no to everything and thousands of people out on the streets demonstrating.

I bet Trump is seething. He loves optics. He won’t like these. But he will Tweet angrily about them.

My wife and I woke up early this morning and drove out to Captree Park to take photos of the sunrise, and CBS Radio News had me yelling at my radio.

The both-sided the shutdown to death, running McConnell quotes from last night with zero context regarding his inability to get 50 votes from his own goddamn side and tacitly blaming Democrats for ‘blocking’ R legislation.

That concerns me because people who aren’t paying attention like us will hear those reports and conclude ‘both sides bad.’ I thought ‘the media’ was sympathetic to our side?

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Stanley Sea  Jan 20, 2018 • 11:56:40am

This is exceptional

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dangerman  Jan 20, 2018 • 11:58:05am

re: #563 makeitstop

My wife and I woke up early this morning and drove out to Captree Park to take photos of the sunrise, and CBS Radio News had me yelling at my radio.

The both-sided the shutdown to death, running McConnell quotes from last night with zero context regarding his inability to get 50 votes from his own goddamn side and tacitly blaming Democrats for ‘blocking’ R legislation.

That concerns me because people who aren’t paying attention like us will hear those reports and conclude ‘both sides bad.’ I thought ‘the media’ was sympathetic to our side?

Used to catch dive boats out of there
Radio was different back then too

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 20, 2018 • 11:59:13am

re: #553 wrenchwench

I will try this. Some of you guys are kind enough to follow my twitter. if I get a live feed up, perhaps someone would be kind enough to post it so I can easily share here live.

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allegro  Jan 20, 2018 • 11:59:22am

re: #564 Stanley Sea

This is exceptional

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Those women got some moves! Love it!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 20, 2018 • 11:59:32am

re: #563 makeitstop

That concerns me because people who aren’t paying attention like us will hear those reports and conclude ‘both sides bad.’ I thought ‘the media’ was sympathetic to our side?

We have been repeating this discussion ever since the Trump insider book came out. The media is not going to change its tack regardless of what there is to report.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 20, 2018 • 12:00:57pm

re: #559 Semper Fi

childhood memories of mom making bacon grease sammiches.

yummmmmmm

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 12:02:01pm

re: #568 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We have been repeating this discussion ever since the Trump insider book came out. The media is not going to change its tack regardless of what there is to report.

We’ve been repeating that ever since Trump came down his escalator to make his announcement.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 20, 2018 • 12:02:27pm

re: #567 allegro

Those women got some moves! Love it!

I have Salt n Pepa on my old ipod. It is the best workout song. Just dance!

Salt-N-Pepa - Push It

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 20, 2018 • 12:04:25pm

re: #570 Anymouse 🌹

We’ve been repeating that ever since Trump came down his escalator to make his announcement.

I still recall the summer of 2015…Trump announces on CNN that his rallies are exciting but people are falling asleep at Jeb Bush rallies.

20 minutes later, CNN airs an interview with a woman who fell asleep at a JB rally. That’s when i knew how well he had the press in his pocket. Whatever else you can say about him, he played those folks like a fiddle.

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allegro  Jan 20, 2018 • 12:04:55pm

re: #571 Stanley Sea

I have Salt n Pepa on my old ipod. It is the best workout song. Just dance!

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I need to find those women (looks like a Rockets game here in Houston) and get some lessons. Man, they move it good!

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 12:07:44pm

It would appear estimates are ranging once again around 400 for Loup City.

About 500 turned out in Cheyenne (population 50000).

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ObserverArt  Jan 20, 2018 • 12:09:15pm

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Stanley Sea  Jan 20, 2018 • 12:10:10pm

Wheeee

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 12:12:16pm

re: #576 Stanley Sea

Wheeee

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From Russia with Love.

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Mattand  Jan 20, 2018 • 12:13:07pm

re: #563 makeitstop

My wife and I woke up early this morning and drove out to Captree Park to take photos of the sunrise, and CBS Radio News had me yelling at my radio.

The both-sided the shutdown to death, running McConnell quotes from last night with zero context regarding his inability to get 50 votes from his own goddamn side and tacitly blaming Democrats for ‘blocking’ R legislation.

That concerns me because people who aren’t paying attention like us will hear those reports and conclude ‘both sides bad.’ I thought ‘the media’ was sympathetic to our side?

I’ve been thinking a lot about this lately. KYW Newsradio in Philly is pulling this shit as well. Americans are too fucking scared of a picking a side, even when that side is clearly actively trying to fuck them over.

Part of the reason… aw, fuck it; most of the reason we’re in this mess is because of the fucking idiot “independent” voters who stayed home, or in a moment of mental illness, voted for Trump to “send a message”. That message being “I’m incapable of critical thought or being an adult” when electing a president.

We are unfortunately depending on a section of the American electorate to do the right thing and vote for the party that is not openly racist; hostile to the poor; and unapologetic about appealing the worst instincts of the American people.

They couldn’t fucking do it in November 2016; I’m not hopeful they’ll do it this November. And even if they do they right thing, it will have taken them helping elect a president who has taken us as a country as close to a dictatorship as we’ve ever seen. Despite all the evidence prior to the election that this is what Trump would do.

Are other countries afflicted with this “Both sides are equally bad” idiocy, or is it just worse with us because we have the capability of slaughtering billions of people with the press of a few buttons?

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thecommodore  Jan 20, 2018 • 12:17:52pm

I’m not sure if the LA Women’s March will draw upwards of 750,000 like last year (which was ten times the turnout anticipated by organizers), but it looks like there’s a lot of people in downtown LA right now. I wish I could be there.

beta.latimes.com

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 12:21:43pm

re: #578 Mattand

Our radio here is “All FOX, all the time,” so we don’t get “both-siderism” we get “one side is bad” (guess which one). The newspaper is the same. The nearest NPR station is out-of-range.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 20, 2018 • 12:24:38pm

This wapo story…shitshow

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 12:29:20pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 12:32:20pm
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Mattand  Jan 20, 2018 • 12:33:12pm

re: #580 Anymouse 🌹

Our radio here is “All FOX, all the time,” so we don’t get “both-siderism” we get “one side is bad” (guess which one). The newspaper is the same. The nearest NPR station is out-of-range.

I don’t know how you do it. If I lived in an area like that, I’d probably have people shooting my windows, dog, eye socket, etc., because I can’t keep my mouth shut anymore.

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makeitstop  Jan 20, 2018 • 12:35:12pm

re: #575 ObserverArt

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 12:35:42pm

re: #584 Mattand

I don’t know how you do it. If I lived in an area like that, I’d probably have people shooting my windows, dog, eye socket, etc., because I can’t keep my mouth shut anymore.

I have to live somewhere I can afford.

People here in town don’t talk about politics much. Around the area though, they did get my @#!% E-mail blast on the government shutdown.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 20, 2018 • 12:37:33pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 20, 2018 • 12:38:02pm

re: #579 thecommodore

I’m not sure if the LA Women’s March will draw upwards of 750,000 like last year (which was ten times the turnout anticipated by organizers), but it looks like there’s a lot of people in downtown LA right now. I wish I could be there.

beta.latimes.com

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 12:40:43pm

I get the impression former President Fox enjoys trolling Donald Trump.

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ObserverArt  Jan 20, 2018 • 12:48:36pm

re: #585 makeitstop

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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 20, 2018 • 2:12:53pm

re: #231 Anymouse 🌹

For the gun-humping father who is concerned how the guys might view him if he’s carrying a pink diaper bag with critters or flowers on it, comes the tactical diaper bag, complete with a gun pocket.
tacticalbabygear.com (more)

A guy who can be “emasculated” by a diaper bag wasn’t too masculated to begin with.

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Citizen K  Jan 20, 2018 • 3:57:09pm

Did something happen with the most recent post? I’ve refreshed several times but the New Comments button and reply field have disappeared, replaced by what was the side bar.

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