An Awesome Collection of Images From #WomensMarch2018

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Here’s an incredible collection of Images from today’s Women’s March to protest the barbaric Trump administration, from Twitter Moments. It was huge, perhaps even larger than the march last year, with millions of people taking to the streets.

It was so encouraging to see such a gigantic turnout for #WomensMarch2018. I was worried that many people were getting burned out and shutting down at the constant flow of awfulness from the Trump gang — but no, they’re energized and ready to fight.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:12:46pm

Distressed Dreamer II

Not great like the above but a certain poignancy I think.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:16:30pm

Rest in peace, Dorothy Malone (1924-2018)

Douglas Sirk’s best imho incredibly over-the-top melodrama Written on the Wind (1957), for which Ms. Malone was deservedly awarded the Oscar for Best Supporting Actress
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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:18:07pm

Character Counts

The fight is ON.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:20:44pm

Charles— the photo you identified as last year’s is in the thread above.

Last night you were concerned at the lost opportunity for LGF contribution to marches. With a little organization, we could exploit our advantage of geographic dispersion and ideological unity. Lizards can guarantee rolling timezone coverage of a lot of publicized direct action events from street level. Mostly, it takes timely notice and a bit of pre-planned division of labor.

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JordanRules  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:21:07pm

Great collection of pics! Woot!

Couldn’t go this year due to family obligations but last year with my Mom was so amazing. Looking at the pics and reading the stories has me completely juiced again.
I do want to get another big march in this summer, before midterms. We’ve got a lot of organizing on deck which is fun too.
But whew, huge shows of solidarity like this are amazing and hella motivational!

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meteor  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:23:43pm

The former bass player with the Kinks and Zombies has died. Rest in peace.

bbc.com

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dangerman  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:24:04pm

Mr trump:. We’re not marching with you, were marching at you.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:24:05pm
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Decatur Deb  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:25:52pm

re: #8 Charles Johnson

No report of a Furby sighting?

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Charles Johnson  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:27:25pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:27:29pm

Seems a good time to repost the Very Subversive Dissident playlist.

Iframe

Charles, of course could be me but after the usual reboot, cache clear etc yet I’m struggling with image uploads in comments and the Page. Control buttons like the little pencil are slow or missing pending a refresh or two.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:27:44pm

re: #3 Unshaken Defiance

The gentleman has a definite Bruce Dern thang going on, which makes me like him all the more. ;-)

Douglas Trumbull’s Silent Running (1972)
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Barefoot Grin  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:27:48pm

The Brian Krassenstein tweet above jumped out at me. This is not just about Trump, of course. It is really important that this movement not just be characterized as anti-Trump in the media because as we’ve seen in the last year there are monsters who are Democratic Party supporters, and presumably a few Democrats themselves. They should be quaking too.

I guess what I’m saying is that the Democrats should not take women’s anger for granted. It has to be turned into real action and change.

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dangerman  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:29:46pm

Trump on fox 2013

You have to get everybody in a room. You have to be a leader. The president has to lead. He has get Mr. Boehner and everybody else in a room, and they have to make a deal. You have to be nice and be angry and be wild and congeal and do all sorts of thing, but you have to get a deal

.

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Charmingly Persistent  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:31:28pm

Here are some from the Denver March:

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JordanRules  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:34:56pm

re: #14 dangerman

Conman speak. Although it does highlight the ‘be a leader’ irony, it’s really a whole lot of nothing aimed at nodding to the choir about Obama. Perfect for FNC.

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JordanRules  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:37:41pm
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Charmingly Persistent  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:39:10pm

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dangerman  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:42:58pm

Check out the quotes in the chyron

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Charmingly Persistent  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:42:59pm

Charles, I have a feature suggestion: automatically downsample pictures to be small enough to post when they are too big. Mine are always too big and I have to monkey with them.

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meteor  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:45:46pm

I was in an accident this afternoon. No real injuries for me or the guy in the other car.

Yipes.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:46:36pm

re: #21 meteor

I was in an accident this afternoon. No real injuries for me or the guy in the other car.

Yipes.

Glad there are no injuries. What about damage? You going to be ok? What happened?

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Kragar  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:46:58pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:47:15pm

re: #10 Charles Johnson

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I have a hard time believing that.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:48:41pm

re: #16 JordanRules

Conman speak. Although it does highlight the ‘be a leader’ irony, it’s really a whole lot of nothing aimed at nodding to the choir about Obama. Perfect for FNC.

Conman the Barbarian.

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Targetpractice  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:48:50pm

re: #23 Kragar

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Once upon a time, “work” in Trump’s vocabulary was a president bringing together members of Congress and working together to make a deal happen to end a shutdown.

But that was before he put in the minimal amount of effort and won the presidency, so now “work” appears to be making a few calls and then spending time laughing it up with sycophants for the camera.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:49:15pm

re: #23 Kragar

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Yeah that’s not really the best photo to use for “hard at work.”

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Skandal  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:49:34pm
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meteor  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:50:04pm

re: #22 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Guy in a truck rammed my sedan from behind. My car is heavily damaged. Probably a total loss. His truck, barely scratched.

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dangerman  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:50:10pm

re: #25 De Kolta Chair

Conman the Barbarian.

I’m working with Schumer’s new “president jello”

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:50:27pm

re: #23 Kragar

They all have that treacly “Oooooo isn’t that baby so precious?” body language. Yuck!

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:50:43pm

re: #30 dangerman

I’m working with Schumer’s new “president jello”

I like Tammy’s Cadet Bonespur.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:50:57pm

re: #25 De Kolta Chair

Conman the Barbarian.

I am so stealing this.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:51:24pm

re: #29 meteor

Guy in a truck rammed my sedan from behind. My car is heavily damaged. Probably a total loss. His truck, barely scratched.

Ugh. Fucking hell. I’m sorry to hear that. Although to be fair, when Mrs. Fish flipped my car a little over a year ago, at least I was well compensated for its loss. I realize it’s a small consolation, but your physical health is more important.

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dangerman  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:51:47pm

re: #32 HappyWarrior

I like Tammy’s Cadet Bonespur.

I like that one too

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:52:05pm

I’m sorry but I can’t buy the croc tears from the right about the military given that they had a chance to pay the service members and they didn’t during the shutdown not to mention that Trump has pretty much supported every past shutdown. I’m not happy about the shutdown. But you know what, I’m even less happy that McConnell and Trump were trying to use the DREAMers and CHIP kids as a cheap tool.

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meteor  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:52:09pm

re: #34 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Thanks.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:52:26pm

re: #35 dangerman

I like that one too

There’s a lot of good ones. Baron von Fuckstick is good.

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Interesting Times  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:53:30pm

Bwahaha:

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JordanRules  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:53:42pm

re: #38 HappyWarrior

I use them in different situations. BvF when I’m feeling snooty.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:53:43pm

I’m tired of the men and women of the military being used as pawns by the American right to distract the American people from the fact that they don’t give a shit about anoyne who isn’t wealthy and or a heterosexual white male Christian.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:54:07pm

re: #30 dangerman

I’m working with Schumer’s new “president jello”

That was a good one!

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:54:26pm

re: #40 JordanRules

I use them in different situations. BvF when I’m feeling snooty.

I am glad that I don’t have to refer to him as President Trump anymore. I had to in a few of the newsletters I edited for work.

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Kragar  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:54:29pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:55:11pm

re: #44 Kragar

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He is a wait for it, snowflake.

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Targetpractice  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:55:16pm

re: #36 HappyWarrior

I’m sorry but I can’t buy the croc tears from the right about the military given that they had a chance to pay the service members and they didn’t during the shutdown not to mention that Trump has pretty much supported every past shutdown. I’m not happy about the shutdown. But you know what, I’m even less happy that McConnell and Trump were trying to use the DREAMers and CHIP kids as a cheap tool.

Another problem is this game of limping from CR to CR, having no idea how much funding they’ll have from month to month, is no more helpful to the our Armed Forces. For the slower minds of wingnuts who need simple analogies, it’s the equivalent of a household that keeps limping from paycheck to paycheck, never knowing if it can afford to spend even a few bucks because a family member might be laid off and totally screw the next budget.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:55:55pm

re: #46 Targetpractice

Another problem is this game of limping from CR to CR, having no idea how much funding they’ll have from month to month, is no more helpful to the our Armed Forces. For the slower minds of wingnuts who need simple analogies, it’s the equivalent of a household that keeps limping from paycheck to paycheck, never knowing if it can afford to spend even a few bucks because a family member might be laid off and totally screw the next budget.

Right. Absolutely.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 20, 2018 • 6:59:00pm

Peter Kuper

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:00:32pm
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JordanRules  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:00:58pm

Blue Planet 2 is gorgeous!!!!

BBC showing out again!
*Slow clap*

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:01:26pm

re: #49 FormerDirtDart

Amen, Mr. Wang.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:03:01pm

Working hard, or hardly working? (NSFW)

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Kragar  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:04:17pm

The entire population of Wyoming is ~586,000

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meteor  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:05:17pm

re: #53 Kragar

Holy shit.

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Archangelus  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:05:18pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:06:22pm

re: #28 Skandal

Sen. Duckworth: The reason my mother came out of her “veterans should not vote” position she’s held her entire life to get rid of the lying Mark Kirk.

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:06:38pm

re: #25 De Kolta Chair

Conman the Barbarian.

I looked up his grandfather’s birthplace, and will suggest a small adjustment.

Conman the Bavarian

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:07:14pm

re: #29 meteor

Guy in a truck rammed my sedan from behind. My car is heavily damaged. Probably a total loss. His truck, barely scratched.

I hope everyone was okay in the wreck.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:07:15pm

re: #53 Kragar

It was breathtaking.

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JordanRules  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:07:38pm

re: #39 Interesting Times

Gahhh! Yup!
That’s my winner!

I really do get a kick out of the signs and other props. Science march here in Phx last year had a ridiculous amount of amazing signs.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:09:25pm

Aside from chocolate, I’m not much of a candy person. Would someone please be so kind as to explain this joke to me?

Ellis Rosen
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JordanRules  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:10:14pm

re: #57 Grunthos the Flatulent

This is why editing is an art and collaboration is fun.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:10:26pm

re: #53 Kragar

Hundreds showed up for the Women’s March in Cheyenne (50,000 population), about the same number that showed up for the Women’s March in Loup City, NE (1,000 population).

Things might be turning blue here in Nebraska … .

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Archangelus  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:10:37pm

This was in Santa Ana (not far from where I lived as a kid) - the GOP is doing such a stellar job of turning the entirety of OC blue for good…

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plansbandc  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:12:06pm

It is comforting to see so many people who are against this fascist regime. Like last year’s protests, this gives me hope.

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Archangelus  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:13:09pm

re: #61 De Kolta Chair

Aside from chocolate, I’m not much of a candy person. Would someone please be so kind as to explain this joke to me?

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That’s not candy, but a detergent capsule called the Tide Pod, for which there’s now an idiotic and Darwin-award-level internet “Tide Pod challenge” (which involves someone chewing one)….

WashingtonPost: Teens Are Daring Each Other to Eat Tide Pods - We Don’t Need to Tell you That’s a Bad Idea

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:13:13pm

re: #43 HappyWarrior

I am glad that I don’t have to refer to him as President Trump anymore. I had to in a few of the newsletters I edited for work.

The fucker is literally my boss. Executive branch employee. Thankfully? (question mark because I wouldn’t be there if it was a hive a 45* supporters) I work in an office of sane people. But, he is my boss.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:14:45pm

This story just keeps getting worse.
Texas neighbors suspected Turpins before move to
Perris

Among other things they abandoned two Chihuahuas at the Texas property and the dogs survived only by eating filth from a huge pile of dirty diapers. The property was littered with empty Vienna sausage cans. A neighbor said it was all they seemed to eat. The freakazoid dad used to shoot his pistol at cans in the driveway, aiming toward the road.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:14:57pm

re: #57 Grunthos the Flatulent

I looked up his grandfather’s birthplace, and will suggest a small adjustment.

Conman the Bavarian

Brilliant!! Or should I say brillant? Either way, achtung Trumpy!

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:16:45pm

re: #67 Colère Tueur de Lapin

The fucker is literally my boss. Executive branch employee. Thankfully? (question mark because I wouldn’t be there if it was a hive a 45* supporters) I work in an office of sane people. But, he is my boss.

You can look at as I did during the Reagan, GHW Bush, and GW Bush administrations, where they were my bosses.

Respect to the office of Commander-in-Chief was due, but respect to the persons was not (at least privately). GHW Bush’s statement about wondering whether atheists could be patriotic and should not be citizens particularly chapped my bee-hind while I was in the Navy at sea.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:18:44pm

One of my cow orkers is organizing a skeet outing for Monday. This is a comment he made on FB.

Hey (name)! Indeed we’re here again. You’re welcome to join my “hunting” expedition, whenever it may happen. The clays are usually orange-tinged, which is more than appropriate.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:24:42pm

re: #71 Colère Tueur de Lapin

One of my cow orkers is organizing a skeet outing for Monday. This is a comment he made on FB.

Is a “cow orker” a strange cross between cattle and swine?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:24:55pm

Sure is amazing that all those flag wavers who trashed Bill Clinton for not being in the Armed Services now kiss the ass of the guy that Tammy described as a Five Time Draft Dodger…

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:25:56pm

re: #73 Joe Bacon 🌹

Sure is amazing that all those flag wavers who trashed Bill Clinton for not being in the Armed Services now kiss the ass of the guy that Tammy described as a Five Time Draft Dodger…

Conservatism is a religion.

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JordanRules  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:26:22pm

And it continues to be the surreal life.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:27:07pm
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De Kolta Chair  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:27:42pm

re: #66 Archangelus

Thanks a million, Archangelus!

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stpaulbear  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:28:34pm

re: #71 Colère Tueur de Lapin

One of my cow orkers is organizing a skeet outing for Monday. This is a comment he made on FB.

Skeet Surfin’!

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:28:40pm

re: #76 Dave In Austin

Ms. Daniels didn’t deserve that. She honestly works for a living.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:28:59pm

re: #68 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

This story just keeps getting worse.
Texas neighbors suspected Turpins before move to
Perris

Among other things they abandoned two Chihuahuas at the Texas property and the dogs survived only by eating filth from a huge pile of dirty diapers. The property was littered with empty Vienna sausage cans. A neighbor said it was all they seemed to eat. The freakazoid dad used to shoot his pistol at cans in the driveway, aiming toward the road.

This kind of fundy-survivalist-gun humper crap was already going full blast in the 70s though it stayed below the media horizon until the 90s. My first wife’s involvement with Fundy loons played a big part in the disintegration of marriage. One couple she knew thought it was “unnatural” for someone from my impoverished background to be so “intellectual” and articulate. (It doesn’t take much to over-awe, and frighten, these rubes). They suggested that it was demonic possession.

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JordanRules  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:29:05pm

Strong tweet.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:29:31pm

re: #72 Anymouse 🌹

Is a “cow orker” a strange cross between cattle and swine?

It’s a holdover from Scott Adams, of Dilbert fame, who often referred to lesser employees of the same company as “cow-orkers”. I generally use it these days to refer to people who have drunk the Kool-Aid.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:31:38pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:33:21pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:35:19pm

re: #76 Dave In Austin

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Now that’s just not fair to Stormy. Poor child will need a set of rabies shots from that!

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:35:47pm

re: #82 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

It’s a holdover from Scott Adams, of Dilbert fame, who often referred to lesser employees of the same company as “cow-orkers”. I generally use it these days to refer to people who have drunk the Kool-Aid.

I was actually using it in the old Usenet way of an intentional misspletting.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:36:06pm

re: #78 stpaulbear

“And time permitting Frank Sinatra”

I’ll never get why that highlarious flick has never caught on.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:37:53pm

re: #86 Colère Tueur de Lapin

I was actually using it in the old Usenet way of an intentional misspletting.

Sorry. It acquired an additional meaning between now and then. I’ll leave you to it.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:39:08pm

re: #83 Charles Johnson

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dangerman  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:39:45pm

re: #75 JordanRules

And it continues to be the surreal life.
The notion R’s are entitled to D votes to break 60 without negotiating with them is bizarre. If you say take it or leave it, you have to be prepared for leave it.

I’d upding that lots if times

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VegasGolfer  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:39:53pm

Damn Chuck, I respect you and all the hard work you do to maintain this awesome website, but I am baffled by how you missed all the build up and planning of the protest marches that went on today.
My email, Facebook, Twitter were bombarded for weeks telling me to march today.
Unfortunately I couldn’t attend because of prior commitments.
If you want, I can put you in touch with people who are organizing on the grass roots level. They are always looking at ways to get the word out to as many people as possible.
BTW, I just watched Bill Maher, and its a good thing I don’t know where Andrew Sullivan is. I would probably be arrested for smacking his stupid ass to the ground with the bullshit he was spewing. I give Saru Jayarman a lot of credit for her restraint in the face of Andrews bullshit.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:40:35pm

re: #80 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Not just the gun-humper survivalist loons though - my first wife left me over “demonic possession” when I developed epilepsy, and she’s a Presbyterian.

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scottslemmons  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:41:37pm

re: #83 Charles Johnson

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I have a few friends who are mayyyyybe a bit in denial about the whole thing. It’s not like Chelsea Manning is the only trans person in American politics.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:44:22pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:45:23pm

re: #80 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

They suggested that it was demonic possession.

And that’s the moment where you look them straight in the eye and say: “No, the demonic possession only explains the teeth in my navel and the faint hurdy-gurdy noises that seep from it when I sleep.”

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teleskiguy  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:46:39pm

re: #91 VegasGolfer

Damn Chuck

His name is Charles.

I don’t know where Andrew Sullivan is.

I do. He’s in his apartment in Manhattan, living large. He made a few million dollars ($20 of my dollars) running The Daily Dish into the ground. I guess he ‘summers’ in Provincetown, MA.

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meteor  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:47:24pm

re: #58 Anymouse 🌹

I and the other guy were okay, thanks.

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:47:46pm

re: #95 The Ghost of a Flea

damn, instant earworm got me.

Donovan ‘Hurdy Gurdy Man’ (Remastered)

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:48:30pm

re: #95 The Ghost of a Flea

Mine sounds like a crumhorn. Maybe that’s why she left.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:50:11pm

re: #91 VegasGolfer

Damn Chuck, I respect you and all the hard work you do to maintain this awesome website, but I am baffled by how you missed all the build up and planning of the protest marches that went on today.

Because no one from any of these groups cared enough to reach out to me. I’m glad the events drew a lot of people, but it’s not my responsibility to find out about them - it’s their job to inform people who can help spread the word. In my case, they didn’t do that, for whatever reason.

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JordanRules  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:50:51pm

re: #94 goddamnedfrank

Banana Coin feeds the Tide Pod habit.

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dangerman  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:52:17pm

re: #99 Anymouse 🌹

Mine sounds like a crumhorn. Maybe that’s why she left.

Hadda look that up
Learned something today
Also what a sackbut is

Now I can go to sleep in peace

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freetoken  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:55:47pm

re: #100 Charles Johnson

Seriously.

While on my Facebook wall today there was a friend who shared another person’s post, after the fact of today’s marches, I didn’t see anyone post something before hand trying to advertise the fact of these demonstrations.

Now, my little circle on Facebook may be mostly older people and that may be why, but it seems to me that the people behind today’s march have to find a way to break through the over-45 epistemic-bubble machine that is Facebook.

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ObserverArt  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:55:56pm

re: #6 meteor

The former bass player with the Kinks and Zombies has died. Rest in peace.

bbc.com

Awww. Damn it. He was also in Argent. Saw him with them here in Columbus, like ‘73 or so, then caught him later with The Kinks on the Low Budget Tour. R.I.P. Rocker.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:55:57pm

And now the Chelsea Manning cultists are throwing Anders Breivik at me again, a bullshit talking point started by a far right anti-Muslim stalker site.

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teleskiguy  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:56:11pm
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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:56:13pm

re: #95 The Ghost of a Flea

And that’s the moment where you look them straight in the eye and say: “No, the demonic possession only explains the teeth in my navel and the faint hurdy-gurdy noises that seep from it when I sleep.”

LOL! Remember when SNL’s Church-lady pointed out that SANTA is an acronym of SATAN? Years earlier, I had known fundies who took that coincidence seriously and cited it as a reason for not letting their children celebrate Christmas. There are millions of fucked up ex-fundy kids from the 70s onward in this country. I wonder how big a factor that is in national life now?

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meteor  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:57:01pm

re: #107 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Pretty big, I’d say.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 20, 2018 • 7:59:02pm

re: #100 Charles Johnson

Well I’d hate to think they still think of you by your old reputation, before your change of mind. I’m hoping just an oversight, and one that won’t be repeated. The left lacks unity of purpose and divisions run frightfully deep.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:00:16pm

Peter Kuper

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Charles Johnson  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:01:41pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:02:39pm
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meteor  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:03:23pm

re: #111 Charles Johnson

Mother of Mercy.

Every Friday, Rep. Ted Lieu of California tweets, “Why does Jared Kushner still have a security clearance?”

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Weaselone  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:04:05pm

re: #109 Unshaken Defiance

Well I’d hate to think they still think of you by your old reputation, before your change of mind. I’m hoping just an oversight, and one that won’t be repeated. The left lacks unity of purpose and divisions run frightfully deep.

I don’t think it’s a coincidence that attacks by the “left” always seem to use lies crafted by far right sources.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:04:38pm

The Senate Democratic leader, Chuck Schumer, has said that he offered to consider the full spending request for President Trump’s promised border wall when the two met on Friday, and that the president later backed out on some tentative agreements once his advisers, including Chief of Staff John Kelly, got to him. But in a briefing Saturday, Office of Management and Budget Director Mick Mulvaney told a different story: The president asked Schumer for $20 billion to build the wall, and Schumer rejected it, only offering the original $1.6 billion request outlined in the White House’s 2018 budget.

“We absolutely did not reject the full funding request,” a senior Democratic aide told me. “Schumer and Trump agreed by the end that they were close enough on everything that they should pursue a short term CR to facilitate a deal, so nothing was agreed to but they were in good shape on an overall framework. Then Kelly started to unravel it.”

There’s also a dispute over why a deal failed to come together during the frenzied two-hour Senate vote Friday night. The proposal included a bill to fund the government through Feb. 8, rather than Feb. 16, as well as a commitment to move a bipartisan immigration bill through the Senate and the House—either in a stand-alone vote in the next few weeks or attached to the Feb. 8 spending bill. The Senate Democratic Whip, Dick Durbin, claims that when Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and House Speaker Paul Ryan spoke on the phone to discuss this, Ryan rejected it outright. (There was a moment on the floor last night when McConnell walked back into the chamber from a call, said something to Durbin, and Durbin rolled his eyes and shook his head.) McConnell spokesperson David Popp described Durbin’s characterization as “laughably false,” and said “there was no deal at any time that was blown up by Speaker Ryan. Period.” Ryan’s spokeswoman, AshLee Strong, said that “the speaker was not part of any deal or involved in any negotiations.”

Whether Ryan formally tanked a “deal”—there’s some wiggle room here—is a technical point. Everyone understands the dynamic. House Republicans do not want to take up the Senate’s bipartisan immigration bill. If they did, the Senate could wrap that and all of the other loose ends quickly. If House leaders brought up the Senate’s immigration bill, it could pass the House with mostly Democratic votes, over the objections of conservative members. Such a move could invite a challenge to Ryan’s speakership from the right—especially if the Senate bill doesn’t currently enjoy the president’s support. This, in very condensed form, is the dilemma: Most Senate Democrats will not vote for a spending bill until there’s a path for getting protections for Dreamers passed in both houses, and House Republicans and the White House are saying that they will not negotiate on immigration while the government is shut down.

So how does the government reopen? The answer to that won’t be known for a few days.

First, the public must decide who’s to blame. As the shutdown lingers and more people pay attention, polling will more clearly reveal which party is “losing.” The losing side will then sue for peace, and then it’s just a matter of negotiating the terms of surrender. Since the “winning” side has zero incentive to save the losing party, the surrender offer will likely be nothing.

So much of the punditry about shutdowns is about how it will affect the midterm elections, and so little of it is about the very important items that are at stake. But the political fears are just a spur for resolving a policy logjam. Shutdowns are a referendum on a particular policy impasse, and they’re risky because the winner takes the spoils.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:05:30pm

re: #96 teleskiguy

His name is Charles.

I do. He’s in his apartment in Manhattan, living large. He made a few million dollars ($20 of my dollars) running The Daily Dish into the ground. I guess he ‘summers’ in Provincetown, MA.

I despise Andrew Sullivan.

He turned The New Republic into the New Republican. He prided himself as being one of the lead propagandists who torpedoed Hillary’s health care proposal. He unleashed assholes such as Betsy McCaughey Ross into the media mainstream. He also embraces Charles Murray’s racist Bell Curve bullshit.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:07:48pm

Corey Pandolph

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:12:25pm

Knoxville’s Women’s March is scheduled for tomorrow.

Matthew Heimbach’s so-called Traditionalist Workers Party (in other words, Nazis) say they will march in opposition to the women’s march.

The claim is they are protecting “women and the unborn” and will march with the so-called Tennessee Right-to-Life.

The foetus worshipping group has denounced Matthew Heimbach’s plan, as they claim they do not support any group who demeans another group.

huffingtonpost.com

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Belafon  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:13:38pm
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ObserverArt  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:13:43pm

re: #107 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

LOL! Remember when SNL’s Church-lady pointed out that SANTA is an acronym of SATAN? Years earlier, I had known fundies who took that coincidence seriously and cited it as a reason for not letting their children celebrate Christmas. There are millions of fucked up ex-fundy kids from the 70s onward in this country. I wonder how big a factor that is in national life now?

She acts all Holy…but She may just be SATAN in Our Schools
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Charles Johnson  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:15:52pm
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teleskiguy  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:16:39pm

re: #121 Charles Johnson

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plansbandc  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:20:12pm

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prairiefire  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:27:43pm

re: #120 ObserverArt

I think they are still fundies.

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MsJ  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:28:26pm

re: #91 VegasGolfer

Damn Chuck, I respect you and all the hard work you do to maintain this awesome website, but I am baffled by how you missed all the build up and planning of the protest marches that went on today.
My email, Facebook, Twitter were bombarded for weeks telling me to march today.
Unfortunately I couldn’t attend because of prior commitments.
If you want, I can put you in touch with people who are organizing on the grass roots level. They are always looking at ways to get the word out to as many people as possible.
BTW, I just watched Bill Maher, and its a good thing I don’t know where Andrew Sullivan is. I would probably be arrested for smacking his stupid ass to the ground with the bullshit he was spewing. I give Saru Jayarman a lot of credit for her restraint in the face of Andrews bullshit.

I didn’t know a thing about it either.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:28:49pm

re: #120 ObserverArt

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Art, I remember the Reformed Presbyterians back home who would not have a Christmas tree in their home because that wasn’t in sync with their Calvinist dogma.

Oh, and they also didn’t participate in Halloween. You can easily figure out why…

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Birth Control Works  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:30:20pm

Yeah, I was there in Chicago. We had a larger turn-out than last year, which really caused my heart to swell and my attitude to lighten.

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MsJ  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:31:25pm

re: #103 freetoken

Seriously.

While on my Facebook wall today there was a friend who shared another person’s post, after the fact of today’s marches, I didn’t see anyone post something before hand trying to advertise the fact of these demonstrations.

Now, my little circle on Facebook may be mostly older people and that may be why, but it seems to me that the people behind today’s march have to find a way to break through the over-45 epistemic-bubble machine that is Facebook.

I have a few very woke folks in my Facebook feed and I saw nothing at all. Long time online friends. Very liberal like me. I see their feeds daily. Not a single mention.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:31:58pm

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Kilroy was here  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:33:40pm

Eric Trump: The government shutdown is ‘good for us’ politically
thehill.com

I really hate this family …

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VegasGolfer  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:34:06pm

re: #100 Charles Johnson

Charles,
Good to know.

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Kragar  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:35:12pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:35:43pm

re: #128 MsJ

I have a few very woke folks in my Facebook feed and I saw nothing at all. Long time online friends. Very liberal like me. I see their feeds daily. Not a single mention.

It makes you wonder how much bigger these demonstrations could have been if they actually cared about doing a professional job of promoting and publicizing them.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:36:24pm

re: #91 VegasGolfer

I didn’t know about any of the women’s marches today until I started reading out-of-area news sites.

They weren’t covered here until over, and I’m not on social media.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:38:34pm

re: #132 Kragar

>>> ??? <<<

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Kragar  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:41:04pm
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teleskiguy  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:41:29pm

re: #132 Kragar

Hmm …

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Charles Johnson  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:42:02pm

re: #132 Kragar

Saw that, but my spidey senses are still tingling. Something is off here. Isn’t Manning running for office? What would be the purpose of “crashing” a white supremacist event - then doing nothing except taking a selfie?

We’ll see. There’s going to be a story in Buzzfeed tomorrow with more information.

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Belafon  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:43:08pm

Considering how many people were at marches today, there must be some kind of communication going on. I didn’t see anything in my mail. I didn’t hear they were going on until late Wednesday.

They probably do need to find a way to expand their reach. At the same time, I don’t want fascists groups or left wing groups that would like to start crap to know about them until it’s too late. I can see the need to keep it close. I’m just speculating though; it could just be that such a large event is close to self-organizing.

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Birth Control Works  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:43:48pm

My Own Sign:

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:46:03pm

re: #139 Belafon

Considering how many people were at marches today, there must be some kind of communication going on. I didn’t see anything in my mail. I didn’t hear they were going on until late Wednesday.

They probably do need to find a way to expand their reach. At the same time, I don’t want fascists groups or left wing groups that would like to start crap to know about them until it’s too late. I can see the need to keep it close. I’m just speculating though; it could just be that such a large event is close to self-organizing.

My mom’s known for a couple of weeks. I wouldn’t be surprised if there was an e-mail list or something that most of us have opted not to sign up for because we get enough crap in our inboxes.

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Birth Control Works  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:46:06pm

re: #138 Charles Johnson

Saw that, but my spidey senses are still tingling. Something is off here. Isn’t Manning running for office? What would be the purpose of “crashing” a white supremacist event - then doing nothing except taking a selfie?

We’ll see. There’s going to be a story in Buzzfeed tomorrow with more information.

I didn’t get anything until Wednesday. I know was organized very quickly—I’m not sure if it was uncertainty about Chicago weather or something else We haven’t seen temps this high since December.

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retired cynic  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:46:19pm

re: #140 Birth Control Works

My Own Sign:

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Hi, there! I was with you in spirit!

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Dave In Austin  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:46:27pm

re: #132 Kragar

The thread is awesome….. I’m LMAO…

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Charles Johnson  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:46:29pm
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De Kolta Chair  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:47:38pm

re: #132 Kragar

Everyone I know in Maryland is asking “What, besides ego, is the point of Manning running against a very respected liberal incumbent?”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:48:55pm

re: #146 De Kolta Chair

Everyone I know in Maryland is asking “What, besides ego, is the point of Manning running against a very respected liberal incumbent?”

Answer—to split the Democrats and send a Republican to the Senate.

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JordanRules  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:50:13pm

re: #147 Joe Bacon 🌹

Got it in one!

Holla!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:51:01pm
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Belafon  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:51:09pm

re: #141 klys (maker of Silmarils)

My mom’s known for a couple of weeks. I wouldn’t be surprised if there was an e-mail list or something that most of us have opted not to sign up for because we get enough crap in our inboxes.

And that’s very true. I’m a minor player and I get 50+ political emails a day. So many are online petitions. I’m kind of pathetic in that I don’t get past the headline of most of them. I rarely sign online petitions, and I can’t stand “DEMOCRATS LOSE” emails.

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JordanRules  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:52:25pm

re: #140 Birth Control Works

re: #143 retired cynic

Yes, yes!!!! I was too!

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Charles Johnson  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:54:19pm

Welp, tomorrow I can look forward to my Twitter feed overflowing with insults from both far left and far right, both of whom get virulently abusive at the slightest hint of criticism of one of their idols.

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allegro  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:54:47pm

re: #139 Belafon

Considering how many people were at marches today, there must be some kind of communication going on. I didn’t see anything in my mail. I didn’t hear they were going on until late Wednesday.

They probably do need to find a way to expand their reach. At the same time, I don’t want fascists groups or left wing groups that would like to start crap to know about them until it’s too late. I can see the need to keep it close. I’m just speculating though; it could just be that such a large event is close to self-organizing.

I heard about it from the network I got into during last year’s march. There’s a FB site, invite only to keep trolls out. I had dozens of invites and information via messenger/email. I let others know who are here locally I thought would be interested but it didn’t occur to me to say anything here on LGF cuz I dunno why. I’ll do better next time.

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Birth Control Works  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:55:32pm

Two pictures I just had to take (with permission)

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prairiefire  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:56:45pm

re: #136 Kragar

Cheeses and crackers.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:57:14pm

re: #94 goddamnedfrank

I’m considering launching my own token, called WheatDoggCoin, which has as its only mission to remove money from your pocket and put it in my pocket.

I probably need to rephrase that mission statement to make it less obvious, though.

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Birth Control Works  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:58:06pm

The very Clear Message from this year’s march was: VOTE

The follow-up message is: Encourage Women to Run for Office.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:58:22pm

If you can stomach it, free republic might be a good source for early notice of upcoming liberal events. They seem to comb the net so they can give their fellow dupes ample warning of any and all libtard/ACORN/BLM riots and uprisings; that is, any public expression by anyone who is not part of their cult.

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Charmingly Persistent  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:58:54pm

re: #153 allegro

I heard about it from the network I got into during last year’s march. There’s a FB site, invite only to keep trolls out. I had dozens of invites and information via messenger/email. I let others know who are here locally I thought would be interested but it didn’t occur to me to say anything here on LGF cuz I dunno why. I’ll do better next time.

It never occured to me that everyone didn’t already know. I’ve known for weeks and I’ve seen lots of reminders. Mostly Facebook.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:58:59pm

re: #150 Belafon

And that’s very true. I’m a minor player and I get 50+ political emails a day. So many are online petitions. I’m kind of pathetic in that I don’t get past the headline of most of them. I rarely sign online petitions, and I can’t stand “DEMOCRATS LOSE” emails.

I just get E-mails offering to help my Website (I don’t have one), give me a better credit card (I don’t have one of those either), asking me to confirm passwords for banks with which I do not have accounts, or confirmations for UPS packages I am not awaiting.

I must be doing it wrong.

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Belafon  Jan 20, 2018 • 8:59:05pm

re: #153 allegro

I heard about it from the network I got into during last year’s march. There’s a FB site, invite only to keep trolls out. I had dozens of invites and information via messenger/email. I let others know who are here locally I thought would be interested but it didn’t occur to me to say anything here on LGF cuz I dunno why. I’ll do better next time.

I think klys had it correct. It was probably an email that I canned. Like I suggested, and you confirmed, I think they have good reasons to keep the invites controlled.

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Belafon  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:00:07pm

re: #160 Anymouse 🌹

I just get E-mails offering to help my Website (I don’t have one), give me a better credit card (I don’t have one of those either), asking me to confirm passwords for banks with which I do not have accounts, or confirmations for UPS packages I am not awaiting.

I must be doing it wrong.

All of those go to spam. I don’t send my political ones to spam, because I occasionally click on them, and because, one way or another, I asked for them.

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ObserverArt  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:00:25pm

Heh, SNL is doing a bit called “Does it even matter anymore?” Where the host asks the contestants things Trump has done and said… and they have to guess “does it even matter any more?”

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JordanRules  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:00:31pm

re: #153 allegro

Same for me. I was tuned in locally and with a couple groups (from folks in places I used to live) going to Vegas for the event. I definitely should’ve highlighted it here too.

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ipsos  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:00:37pm

re: #94 goddamnedfrank

Ring ring ring ring
Ring ring ring
BANANA COIN!

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:00:45pm

re: #159 Charmingly Persistent

It never occured to me that everyone didn’t already know. I’ve known for weeks and I’ve seen lots of reminders. Mostly Facebook.

Contrary to the hype, most people in the USA actually aren’t on Facebook.

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Belafon  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:01:44pm

Down the memory hole question: Does anyone remember that tweetstorm from early last year about the woman describing her grandfather in Europe during WW2? He was 10 and yet part of the resistance. One of the things he had to deal with was not only spies, but people who would bring news that sounded too good. I would like to find it again, but I can’t seem to look it up.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:02:13pm
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Birth Control Works  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:03:12pm

nytol,

and Thanks for all the Fish.

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Belafon  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:05:04pm

re: #169 Birth Control Works

nytol,

and Thanks for all the Fish.

I sure hope you haven’t grown thumbs. Because then we’re really screwed.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:05:18pm

re: #139 Belafon

They probably do need to find a way to expand their reach. At the same time, I don’t want fascists groups or left wing groups that would like to start crap to know about them until it’s too late. I can see the need to keep it close. I’m just speculating though; it could just be that such a large event is close to self-organizing.

I can’t agree with that - when you’re organizing an event like this, you can’t let fringe neo-Nazi groups stop you from spreading the word as widely as possible. That’s just a bad way to operate. The Nazis are VASTLY outnumbered by the genuine attendees in any case. If you let them set the agenda for your publicity, it’s a recipe for failure.

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allegro  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:06:18pm

re: #166 Anymouse 🌹

Contrary to the hype, most people in the USA actually aren’t on Facebook.

Don’t have to be. I got a small group together to go, none of whom do FB. It’s a word of mouth thing. I think that’s a good way to do it since this way the marches stay “clean”. If it was broadcast there could be trouble from counter-protests and other unsavory stuff.

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JordanRules  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:06:20pm
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retired cynic  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:06:27pm

re: #166 Anymouse 🌹

Contrary to the hype, most people in the USA actually aren’t on Facebook.

You have to have “liked” pages preparing marches, and then pay attention. If you are signed up with many pages or groups or friends, the stream of content goes by so fast you can’t do anything else but watch. I gave up trying.

I did see some things, but none were anywhere near me, and I’m not good on my feet anyway. So it has to be “in spirit!”

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:07:51pm

re: #147 Joe Bacon 🌹

Answer—to split the Democrats and send a Republican to the Senate.

If so, that plan is sure to fail miserably. Free Staters like Cardin.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:08:51pm

I may run this in the local gimme rag:

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:08:52pm

Meanwhile, back in Release the (fake) Memoland…

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Charmingly Persistent  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:09:17pm

I just checked. I got emails from League of Women Voters and Moveon, and a neighborhood group called Next Door. On Facebook I saw it on a local group for activism called Colorado Acts of Resistance and Change (I think - CARE anyway), Pantsuit Nation, and a private group I’m in Called WTF Trump Supporters. I also saw several posts from my Facebook friends.

I can only think I am more into activist groups and the people who didn’t see much follow specific candates more? Otherwise I can ‘t figure it out

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bill d. (b.d.)  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:11:01pm

re: #121 Charles Johnson

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I am shocked that the Assange feeding Manning is at the far rightest party she could find!

Can’t wait for Greenwald to chime in, chastise us and to make it all whole!

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Kragar  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:12:51pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:13:58pm

JFC

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:14:39pm

re: #156 wheat-dogg

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Kragar  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:14:59pm
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retired cynic  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:15:01pm

re: #181 Charles Johnson

JFC

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Not out to win friends there, I see.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:15:01pm

re: #172 allegro

Don’t have to be. I got a small group together to go, none of whom do FB. It’s a word of mouth thing. I think that’s a good way to do it since this way the marches stay “clean”. If it was broadcast there could be trouble from counter-protests and other unsavory stuff.

No word of mouth here.

Any protest that can’t stand up to counter-protestors (who also have the same I Amendment rights) probably has problems to start with.

Millions marched today, probably more than last year. There were a smattering of counter-protestors who turned out to be insignificant, and no reports of violence.

Tomorrow’s Women’s March in Knoxville already has two counter-protest groups set up against it: the Nazis and Tennessee Right-to-Life. I expect both groups will be vastly outnumbered.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:16:02pm

re: #181 Charles Johnson

JFC

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We also know he will out-asshole everyone else…

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bill d. (b.d.)  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:16:56pm

re: #181 Charles Johnson

JFC

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Wow, that guy really showed us!

I know that if I was throwing the party of a lifetime that I would give a shit enough about my enemies to stop and fuck with them!

We’re not in his head at all.

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JordanRules  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:19:48pm

re: #183 Kragar

Ummmm…….. WTF!?!?
Everyone knows this isn’t normal. It’s down to who deals with this reality and who doesn’t.
Holy shit man.

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Belafon  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:20:17pm

re: #183 Kragar

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HAHAHA!

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Charles Johnson  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:21:15pm

Meanwhile, the sovereign citizen weirdos are gearing up to do something ugly again.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:21:57pm

re: #183 Kragar

“Watching old clips of him berating Barack Obama over the 2013 government shutdown?”

Is it starting to sink in with Mr. Trump?

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:22:53pm

re: #190 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile, the sovereign citizen weirdos are gearing up to do something ugly again.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:22:56pm

re: #145 Charles Johnson

As far as I know, during the heyday of the USSR, Krokodil was the name of the only government-sanctioned satirical publication.

For example, here’s an irreverent jape at Charles De Gaulle’s height. No wonder they lost the Cold War.
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:23:18pm

re: #191 Anymouse 🌹

“Watching old clips of him berating Barack Obama over the 2013 government shutdown?”

Is it starting to sink in with Mr. Trump?

No, and it never will.

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Belafon  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:23:35pm

re: #190 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile, the sovereign citizen weirdos are gearing up to do something ugly again.

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And these are the kind of people you don’t want knowing about marches.

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Renaissance_Man  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:23:48pm

re: #191 Anymouse 🌹

“Watching old clips of him berating Barack Obama over the 2013 government shutdown?”

Is it starting to sink in with Mr. Trump?

Guarantee you that’s not the case. He’s watching them to feel better about himself.

After 71 years, there will be no change of heart, no pivot, no newfound introspection.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:24:29pm

re: #190 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile, the sovereign citizen weirdos are gearing up to do something ugly again.

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And this time Trump and the KKKeebler Elf will give them a blank check to do whatever they want!

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BeachDem  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:24:55pm

re: #166 Anymouse 🌹

Contrary to the hype, most people in the USA actually aren’t on Facebook.

From Pew 2016
79% of online adults (68% of all Americans) use Facebook

From Statista, January 2017
The total Facebook audience in the United States amounted to 214 million users.

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JordanRules  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:25:14pm

re: #181 Charles Johnson

That background is definitely Sean Puffy Combs video aesthetic, circa 96.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:27:30pm

re: #180 Kragar

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This is the same genius my friend used to claim the women who marched today should be aware that Trump has women in the most high cabinet positions of anyone in history. Crickets of course. Charlie should actually read rather then be a smug right wing douchebag.

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allegro  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:27:53pm

re: #185 Anymouse 🌹

Any protest that can’t stand up to counter-protestors (who also have the same I Amendment rights) probably has problems to start with.

Big difference between can’t and don’t want to.

Millions marched today, probably more than last year. There were a smattering of counter-protestors who turned out to be insignificant, and no reports of violence.

Point made.

Tomorrow’s Women’s March in Knoxville already has two counter-protest groups set up against it: the Nazis and Tennessee Right-to-Life. I expect both groups will be vastly outnumbered.

I hope everyone stays safe.

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Belafon  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:28:27pm

re: #198 BeachDem

From Pew 2016
79% of online adults (68% of all Americans) use Facebook

From Statista, January 2017
The total Facebook audience in the United States amounted to 214 million users.

I wonder if they use it the way I do: I have an account, I get on about once a month.

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Amory Blaine  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:28:33pm

My inbox is overflowing with liberal stuff. It looks like Randy Bryce is fucking stalking me with all his emails. But going back over a month I didn’t see anything about the marches today.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:30:02pm

re: #198 BeachDem

From Pew 2016
79% of online adults (68% of all Americans) use Facebook

From Statista, January 2017
The total Facebook audience in the United States amounted to 214 million users.

I’d be one of those people, as I have a FB account and use it, *but* I spend maybe an hour on it at a time about once or twice a week. OTOH, there are people who practically live on it 24/7.

So these statistics are not necessarily meaningful. Time on line per capita might be more useful.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:30:23pm

re: #202 Belafon

I wonder if they use it the way I do: I have an account, I get on about once a month.

Not sure but I’m on regularly. I know a lot of people here dislike FB but it has its uses.

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allegro  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:30:33pm

re: #202 Belafon

I wonder if they use it the way I do: I have an account, I get on about once a month.

I doubt I get on it without prompt (email) once a year. I use it for contacting family and friends I don’t keep in regular touch with mostly.

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Belafon  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:31:22pm

re: #205 HappyWarrior

The flip side is my wife brings our average up to about 22 hours a day.

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meteor  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:31:34pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:33:05pm

re: #207 Belafon

The flip side is my wife brings our average up to about 22 hours a day.

Ha! I like it as a way to stay in touch. Also the chatting device is nice too. Also helps with ancestral research. Great for planning events too.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:34:41pm

I’ve had a FB account for over 90% of its existence. The only time I had no account was Soring 2005 when I was still in high school and Summer/early fall that year when my community college didn’t allow for it.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:39:27pm

re: #176 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

I may run this in the local gimme rag:

“Well, that explains that.”
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BeachDem  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:39:46pm

re: #178 Charmingly Persistent

I just checked. I got emails from League of Women Voters and Moveon, and a neighborhood group called Next Door. On Facebook I saw it on a local group for activism called Colorado Acts of Resistance and Change (I think - CARE anyway), Pantsuit Nation, and a private group I’m in Called WTF Trump Supporters. I also saw several posts from my Facebook friends.

I can only think I am more into activist groups and the people who didn’t see much follow specific candates more? Otherwise I can ‘t figure it out

There is also a womensmarch.com website, an @womensmarch twitter account, facebook pages, plus Action Together promoted it as did other participating groups. (I’m not even on social media, and I heard about it non-stop for the past few weeks.)

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TedStriker  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:41:32pm

re: #190 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile, the sovereign citizen weirdos are gearing up to do something ugly again.

And, with another fed shutdown, they’ve got their window of opportunity.

Watch them try to take Malheur again or another federal refuge/park real soon.

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danarchy  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:42:10pm

re: #198 BeachDem

From Pew 2016
79% of online adults (68% of all Americans) use Facebook

From Statista, January 2017
The total Facebook audience in the United States amounted to 214 million users.

I was an early adopter for sites like six degrees, friendster, and myspace. By the time facebook came around I was so sick of getting these communities all set up only to watch them wither and die I was like “No way, you’re not fooling me again.”

Once it was clear it was going to stick around I just avoided it out of spite. I eventually had to create an account so I could get some info for an event that they wouldn’t let me see otherwise. Think that is the only time I logged into it.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:46:26pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:46:31pm

What’s really sick to me is how they’re trying to use the DACA kids to turn the military against them and blame the DACA kids for why the military ain’t being paid. It’s sick how they use the military like this especially given I’ve seen a lot of them gleeful about the shutdown especially when it was under Obama.

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BeachDem  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:46:59pm

re: #202 Belafon

I wonder if they use it the way I do: I have an account, I get on about once a month.

In 2017, the average daily time spent on Facebook by U.S. users amounted to 41 minutes.

statista.com

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:48:24pm

Heh

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:51:11pm

re: #217 BeachDem

In 2017, the average daily time spent on Facebook by U.S. users amounted to 41 minutes.

statista.com

I buy that. I’m guilty. I post maybe once or twice a day. I’ve been posting more since family and friends like my old photos. I’m also told I’m a good storyteller when talking about my ancestors and their lives. I sometimes go political when the Yam pisses me off or when I need to make my thoughts known on something like immigration. It disappoints me how some of the people including some cousins I’ve met through ancestry research are wingnuts but I’ve got others who feel the same way.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:52:09pm

re: #218 De Kolta Chair

Heh

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He’s good at one thing. Selling himself.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:54:08pm

I received an automated message from the VA when I enquired why the listing of hospitals refers to “the United States and Puerto Rico.”

The automated message says they cannot answer the question now due to the government shutdown, if this is an emergency call 911.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:54:39pm

Oh and the anger I’m seeing directed by wingnuts at Congress for still being paid. No acknowledgement of the Democrats trying to not allow that but these dudes are brainwashed.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:55:55pm

re: #198 BeachDem

From Pew 2016
79% of online adults (68% of all Americans) use Facebook

From Statista, January 2017
The total Facebook audience in the United States amounted to 214 million users.

Hmm. 68% would be two-thirds, which would be most.

How many actually use it though, and the one-third who don’t is quite a big block of people not reached if Facebook is the vehicle for messaging.

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JordanRules  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:56:13pm

re: #218 De Kolta Chair

This is a good call and response song.

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BeachDem  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:56:41pm

re: #219 HappyWarrior

I buy that. I’m guilty. I post maybe once or twice a day. I’ve been posting more since family and friends like my old photos. I’m also told I’m a good storyteller when talking about my ancestors and their lives. I sometimes go political when the Yam pisses me off or when I need to make my thoughts known on something like immigration. It disappoints me how some of the people including some cousins I’ve met through ancestry research are wingnuts but I’ve got others who feel the same way.

I’m not even freakin’ on it, but many of my friends are on 24 hours a day (even when we’re out to dinner together, which really annoys the crap out of me.)

I just know the numbers and reach because I do some social media planning/buying for clients and do research for various groups.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:57:40pm

re: #217 BeachDem

In 2017, the average daily time spent on Facebook by U.S. users amounted to 41 minutes.

statista.com

I can’t read that site because it wants me to sign up for $49 a month.

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Belafon  Jan 20, 2018 • 9:59:10pm

re: #222 HappyWarrior

Oh and the anger I’m seeing directed by wingnuts at Congress for still being paid. No acknowledgement of the Democrats trying to not allow that but these dudes are brainwashed.

If the Democrats can’t get the GOP to vote to not get paid during the shut down, they should make a big show and give their checks to some groups to help those affected by the shut down.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:03:42pm

re: #225 BeachDem

I’m not even freakin’ on it, but many of my friends are on 24 hours a day (even when we’re out to dinner together, which really annoys the crap out of me.)

I just know the numbers and reach because I do some social media planning/buying for clients and do research for various groups.

I think it’s a great way to stay in touch with family. I have two cousins that live overseas. But yeah I can see why constantly being on would annoy. My problem are the people who post 10-20 things in rapid succession or also think they need to post people they don’t know getting schooled by other people especially when it’s the rapid succession when it’s clear the person hasn’t checked their facts as I said about my buddy earlier. I really wanted him to respond lol. My brother and I joked he needs a meme intervention.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:05:14pm

re: #227 Belafon

If the Democrats can’t get the GOP to vote to not get paid during the shut down, they should make a big show and give their checks to some groups to help those affected by the shut down.

I like that idea a lot. In fact, I may even suggest it to Gerry Connolly when I see him at a breakfast Monday.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:06:26pm

LOL

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:07:19pm

re: #228 HappyWarrior

I think it’s a great way to stay in touch with family. I have two cousins that live overseas. But yeah I can see why constantly being on would annoy. My problem are the people who post 10-20 things in rapid succession or also think they need to post people they don’t know getting schooled by other people especially when it’s the rapid succession when it’s clear the person hasn’t checked their facts as I said about my buddy earlier. I really wanted him to respond lol. My brother and I joked he needs a meme intervention.

I have a telephone for that, and it doesn’t feed me Russian propaganda.

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allegro  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:08:31pm

re: #221 Anymouse 🌹

I received an automated message from the VA when I enquired why the listing of hospitals refers to “the United States and Puerto Rico.”

The automated message says they cannot answer the question now due to the government shutdown, if this is an emergency call 911.

Since Puerto Rico is not a state it is not one of the United States.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:09:21pm

re: #231 Anymouse 🌹

I have a telephone for that, and it doesn’t feed me Russian propaganda.

You missed where I said my cousins live overseas. And the propaganda? You can also get a lot of stuff that counters it. I follow the SPLC for example.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:10:22pm

re: #232 allegro

Since Puerto Rico is not a state it is not one of the United States.

Surprised they wouldn’t say US States and territories but perhaps Guam and the others don’t have VA facilities?

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:10:53pm

re: #232 allegro

Since Puerto Rico is not a state it is not one of the United States.

It is part of the United States, officially an unorganised territory.

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Amory Blaine  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:11:40pm

Virtual Reality Users Watch Helplessly as Another User Has In-Game Seizure

A strange and unexpected consequence of virtual reality devices becoming more widely accessible is that users can now see other users suffer from real medical emergencies in the digital world, but not be able to do anything about it.

That’s what YouTuber Rogue Shadow VR claims happened to him and other users in the virtual reality social app VRChat this week.

As Rogue explains in his video, he and other VRChat users were goofing off in one of the app’s virtual environments when suddenly one of the avatars in the room, a black and red robot, fell to the floor and began twitching. At first, it’s unclear if it was just a bug or someone goofing off, which is what many VRChat users like to do.

REAL SEIZURE in VIRTUAL REALITY With FULL BODY TRACKING [ VRChat ] REAL

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:12:53pm

re: #234 HappyWarrior

Surprised they wouldn’t say US States and territories but perhaps Guam and the others don’t have VA facilities?

Guam and American Samoa have VA facilites.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:13:33pm

To me Facebook, Instagram, Twitter is just another leap in social evolution. Whereas the telephone brought our ancestors closer, I see modern social media as the next turn. Another thing we have now is FaceTime and Skype, Mom wants to see her granddaughter and I like seeing my niece too in as close to real time as one can do across the continent.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:13:53pm

re: #237 Anymouse 🌹

Guam and American Samoa have VA facilites.

Then I’m stumped.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:15:32pm

re: #239 HappyWarrior

Then I’m stumped.

They changed their home page to single out Puerto Rico, only done since Trump was elected (like many other government pages being changed).

I noticed it and called it out. Since the government is shut down, my question waits in a queue until they get around to it.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:15:34pm

re: #236 Amory Blaine

Virtual Reality Users Watch Helplessly as Another User Has In-Game Seizure

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I saw that yesterday. So many dumb things being said, and the person in the brightly colored anime avatar wiggling in front of him during the seizure is an asshole.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:16:40pm

I’m sure there were people who thought telephones ruined the letter too. I don’t have anything against choosing not to use social media but it’s a valuable modern tool. Does it have problems? Sure but I’m willing to deal with that because for me the benefits outweigh the negatives.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:17:11pm

re: #240 Anymouse 🌹

They changed their home page to single out Puerto Rico, only done since Trump was elected (like many other government pages being changed).

I noticed it and called it out. Since the government is shut down, my question waits in a queue until they get around to it.

Then yeah something stinks.

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Kragar  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:18:14pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:18:33pm

re: #242 HappyWarrior

I’m sure there were people who thought telephones ruined the letter too. I don’t have anything against choosing not to use social media but it’s a valuable modern tool. Does it have problems? Sure but I’m willing to deal with that because for me the benefits outweigh the negatives.

“If something is offered to you free, then you’re the product.”

Maybe I’m just old-fashioned, since I also write letters. (Much more convenient than Faceborg for sending a package or something as well.)

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:21:12pm

re: #245 Anymouse 🌹

“If something is offered to you free, then you’re the product.”

Maybe I’m just old-fashioned, since I also write letters. (Much more convenient than Faceborg for sending a package or something as well.)

To each his own. I just think your hostility to the platform comes off a bit extreme for someone who has never used it before.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:21:59pm

re: #243 HappyWarrior

Then yeah something stinks.

va.gov

The Burials and Memorials section down the page on the right is where it was changed. It used to just read “the United States.”

I don’t know the purpose of the change, hence my enquiry to the VA. My guess is to subtly single out Puerto Rico as “different” from the United States.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:23:22pm

re: #244 Kragar

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I must say while I wasn’t sure she belonged in jail for life, I was never fond of the attempts to deify her. I always thought Kristin Beck was a much better role model of how transgendered Americans served honorably.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:23:49pm

re: #246 HappyWarrior

To each his own. I just think your hostility to the platform comes off a bit extreme for someone who has never used it before.

Apparently one-third of the country is extremists then, according to the stats cited above.

The Post Office and the telephone company don’t send me Russian propaganda or sell my information to anyone who wants it. Hence the “your the product” part of Facebook.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:24:52pm

re: #247 Anymouse 🌹

va.gov

The Burials and Memorials section down the page on the right is where it was changed. It used to just read “the United States.”

I don’t know the purpose of the change, hence my enquiry to the VA. My guess is to subtly single out Puerto Rico as “different” from the United States.

I hope they answer. No logical reason to do that. If they had said US and territories, no biggie imo but singling our PR, yeah something smells here. And it’s good you’re inquiring.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:26:45pm

re: #249 Anymouse 🌹

Apparently one-third of the country is extremists then, according to the stats cited above.

The Post Office and the telephone company don’t send me Russian propaganda or sell my information to anyone who wants it. Hence the “your the product” part of Facebook.

I didn’t call you an extremist, I said your hostility comes off extreme imo. There’s a difference.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:28:58pm

I’ll drop it though. I just think social media for its flaws has its uses. FB has its flaws but as a 12 year user, to me good outweighs bad. But I grew up on things like AIM and MySpace too.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:30:27pm

re: #251 HappyWarrior

I didn’t call you an extremist, I said your hostility comes off extreme imo. There’s a difference.

I’m not being hostile to Facebook, I am noting a reality. “If it’s free, you’re the product.” That’s the way Facebook works. It’s why advertisers can segregate sections of Facebook for targeted adverts (such as all those targeted at anti-Semites during the last election).

I fear Mark Zuckerberg leveraging his platform for all the information on it for his presidential run, if he still wants to do that.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:32:52pm

re: #249 Anymouse 🌹

Apparently one-third of the country is extremists then, according to the stats cited above.

The Post Office and the telephone company don’t send me Russian propaganda or sell my information to anyone who wants it. Hence the “your the product” part of Facebook.

I’m part of the one-third, and I don’t spend any time justifying myself for not using it — or denouncing people who do.

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Kragar  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:33:28pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:34:35pm

re: #253 Anymouse 🌹

I’m not being hostile to Facebook, I am noting a reality. “If it’s free, you’re the product.” That’s the way Facebook works. It’s why advertisers can segregate sections of Facebook for targeted adverts (such as all those targeted at anti-Semites during the last election).

I fear Mark Zuckerberg leveraging his platform for all the information on it for his presidential run, if he still wants to do that.

Fair enough. I gave my opinion. That’s it.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:37:19pm

Come on people, we have to put thin mints over the top.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:37:29pm

re: #255 Kragar

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Us? Remember when him and Don Jr weren’t going to be involved. Or remember their croc tears for the military?

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danarchy  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:38:18pm

re: #257 goddamnedfrank

Come on people, we have to put thin mints over the top.

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Samoas or go home.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:38:58pm

re: #257 goddamnedfrank

Come on people, we have to put thin mints over the top.

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Damn that’s tough. I like all those very much except Do Si Dos.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:39:50pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:39:53pm

re: #259 danarchy

Samoas or go home.

I allow myself to buy Thin Mints because I can not eat the whole box in one sitting.

The same cannot be said of Samoas.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:40:06pm

re: #259 danarchy

Samoas or go home.

Tagalongs don’t get enough love imo but I’m a guy who loves chocolate and peanut butter combined with a cold glass of milk.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:40:06pm

re: #254 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

I’m part of the one-third, and I don’t spend any time justifying myself for not using it — or denouncing people who do.

I didn’t denounce anyone, and others above said why they don’t use the service either.

Somehow me not wanting to use the service because I don’t want to be a product or a target for propaganda is different than others who had different reasons for not using the service.

No one in my family uses Facebook or Twitter, so that reason (to keep in touch with family) wouldn’t work for me anyway, even if it is more convenient than picking up a telephone and dialing eleven numbers.

I do have a very small circle of people on a Skype account, which I do find useful.

Back to your regularly scheduled LGF.

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Belafon  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:42:41pm

re: #257 goddamnedfrank

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Amory Blaine  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:43:37pm

We call them Caramel Delights around these here parts.

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CleverToad  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:43:38pm

re: #141 klys (maker of Silmarils)

My mom’s known for a couple of weeks. I wouldn’t be surprised if there was an e-mail list or something that most of us have opted not to sign up for because we get enough crap in our inboxes.

Our Indivisible group has a closed-group Facebook page, you have to be a member to see the posts. That’s where I heard about it, but I didn’t look closely at the details because it was unlikely I’d go. Don’t usually leave my mom for more than a couple of hours at a time these days.

They had great weather for the Denver march today — clear and sunny and pleasant, as opposed to the promise of snow for tomorrow.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:45:03pm

No one heard of a bad cookie. There are good cookies and there are better cookies.

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Belafon  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:45:04pm

re: #266 Amory Blaine

We call them Caramel Delights around these here parts.

Do they actually last long enough to need a name?

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:45:28pm

re: #264 Anymouse 🌹

I didn’t denounce anyone, and others above said why they don’t use the service either.

Somehow me not wanting to use the service because I don’t want to be a product or a target for propaganda is different than others who had different reasons for not using the service.

No one in my family uses Facebook or Twitter, so that reason (to keep in touch with family) wouldn’t work for me anyway, even if it is more convenient than picking up a telephone and dialing eleven numbers.

I do have a very small circle of people on a Skype account, which I do find useful.

Back to your regularly scheduled LGF.

So you have told us. And told us. And told us.

…and told us.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:46:30pm

re: #262 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I allow myself to buy Thin Mints because I can not eat the whole box in one sitting.

The same cannot be said of Samoas.

When I was stationed in Spain, the Girl Scout troop on base would have cookies to sell all over Rota delivered by Navy cargo plane.

The day the plane with the cookies arrived, half the base would turn out to help move pallets of cookies.

The base Girl Scouts troop sold way more cookies out in town than they did on base to Spanish citizens.

Alas, we can’t get any Girl Scout cookies here, because no Girl Scouts are around here. (I understand you can order them on-line.)

The 4-H sells homemade cookies though, so we get local goodness when they bring those around.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:46:50pm

re: #268 HappyWarrior

No one heard of a bad cookie. There are good cookies and there are better cookies.

Are you familiar with Korean rice-based “cookies?”

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:47:40pm

re: #272 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

Are you familiar with Korean rice-based “cookies?”

Haven’t had those. I was trying a little late night Cookie philosophy.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:48:36pm

re: #265 Belafon

Another excellent answer.

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majii  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:49:38pm

re: #189 Belafon

re: #183 Kragar

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HAHAHA!”

Trump deserves everything he’s getting, and more. Iirc, and I do, only “he” could solve every problem in the good ole USA.
What a yuuuge failure he’s been!

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danarchy  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:49:46pm

re: #268 HappyWarrior

No one heard of a bad cookie. There are good cookies and there are better cookies.

This is not true, a couple years ago they introduced the Savanah Smiles cookies and I got a box to check them out. They were awful, I couldn’t give the things away they ended up sitting in the cupboard until they went stale and I tossed em. Some kind of lemon cookie.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:51:08pm

re: #276 danarchy

This is not true, a couple years ago they introduced the Savanah Smiles cookies and I got a box to check them out. They were awful, I couldn’t give the things away they ended up sitting in the cupboard until they went stale and I tossed em. Some kind of lemon cookie.

I was being silly. Lemon works better in lemon bars than cookies and in pie, oh how I love lemon meringue pie.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:55:04pm

re: #270 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

I am sorry I upset you. Perhaps I should stay out of conversations about social media in the future?

I believe this started when Mr. Johnson noted he could have promoted the Women’s Marches in advance if he knew about them, he was told lots of people were talking about them on Facebook, I noted we didn’t hear about them here at all until we read about them in outside news media to that available here, the conversation shifted to the usefulness of Facebook, I made my opinion known as did several other people, and here we are.

I will need to concede I should not opine on Facebook since I don’t have an account there so I cannot assess its worth (other than what’s reported by the news or others), just as I should not opine about owning a Toyota since I’ve never owned one.

Perhaps I need a break for a while. I would sign off “try to keep the Republic going while I am gone,” but the Republic is closed for business now, courtesy of the GOP.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:55:33pm

1. Take Momofuku Compost Cookie recipe.

2. Add smashed up Thin Mints and Samoas.

3. Yeah that probably won’t work but I’m going to try anyway just to be a culinary troll.

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Kragar  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:55:45pm
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allegro  Jan 20, 2018 • 10:58:55pm

re: #262 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I allow myself to buy Thin Mints because I can not eat the whole box in one sitting.

The same cannot be said of Samoas.

I gotta jump on the Thin Mints bandwagon. I love those things, especially right outa the freezer.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 11:00:30pm

re: #281 allegro

I gotta jump on the Thin Mints bandwagon. I love those things, especially right outa the freezer.

They’re the best of the cookies with ice cream too.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 20, 2018 • 11:01:15pm

Now I want cookies and the best I have is banana bread.

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sagehen  Jan 20, 2018 • 11:01:31pm

re: #275 majii

re: #183 Kragar

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Trump deserves everything he’s getting, and more. Iirc, and I do, only “he” could solve every problem in the good ole USA.
What a yuuuge failure he’s been!

SNL Weekend Update:
“Of course he’s afraid of sharks. His body is shaped like a seal.”

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 20, 2018 • 11:03:29pm

re: #268 HappyWarrior

No one heard of a bad cookie. There are good cookies and there are better cookies.

Oatmeal & raisin are pretty bad just because I creep up on them hoping they’re oatmeal & chocolate chip and then have my dreams crushed.

Same thing with eggplant parmesan masquerading as lasagna.

There outta be a law.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 20, 2018 • 11:04:19pm

re: #285 goddamnedfrank

Oatmeal & raisin are pretty bad just because I creep up on them hoping they’re oatmeal & chocolate chip and then have my dreams crushed.

Same thing with eggplant parmesan masquerading as Lasagna.

There outta be a law.

WTF how do you not like raisins?

Cookie weirdo.

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DodgerFan1988  Jan 20, 2018 • 11:04:28pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 11:04:40pm

re: #285 goddamnedfrank

Oatmeal & raisin are pretty bad just because I creep up on them hoping they’re oatmeal & chocolate chip and then have my dreams crushed.

Same thing with eggplant parmesan masquerading as Lasagna.

There outta be a law.

I actually like oatmeal raisin.

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allegro  Jan 20, 2018 • 11:05:08pm

re: #283 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Now I want cookies and the best I have is banana bread.

I have mini Oreos but I already ate my daily quota.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 20, 2018 • 11:05:46pm

re: #286 klys (maker of Silmarils)

WTF how do you not like raisins?

Cookie weirdo.

Raisins are okay, but not in cookies. They’re clearly just trying to crash a party they were never invited to.

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JordanRules  Jan 20, 2018 • 11:05:56pm

re: #289 allegro

Innit tomorrow now?

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allegro  Jan 20, 2018 • 11:06:26pm

re: #291 JordanRules

Innit tomorrow now?

Good point!

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CleverToad  Jan 20, 2018 • 11:06:35pm

re: #283 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Now I want cookies and the best I have is banana bread.

Me too

Faraway Cookies

EDIT: ‘cept I don’t have the banana bread. oh well…

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 20, 2018 • 11:06:38pm

re: #289 allegro

I have mini Oreos but I already ate my daily quota.

I have a long run tomorrow so I could have something.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 20, 2018 • 11:07:54pm

Or I could bake chocolate chip cookies. I think. Maybe.

Except I’m stitching and I don’t want to get the KitchenAid out.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jan 20, 2018 • 11:08:16pm

I like oatmeal raisin, though they are the cookie with the broadest range of “enjoyable” to “fucking masonry.”

…except Anzacs. But I like those too.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2018 • 11:09:17pm

Snickerdoodles now there’s an underrated cookie.

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JordanRules  Jan 20, 2018 • 11:09:23pm

re: #295 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I’m the weirdo who will always choose banana bread.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jan 20, 2018 • 11:10:03pm

I have three heads of cabbage and way too many red chilies.

Everybody thinking about making cookies can just shut up.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 20, 2018 • 11:10:58pm

re: #298 JordanRules

I’m the weirdo who will always choose banana bread.

Oh, I like banana bread too, don’t get me wrong. There’s a reason I have mini-loaves in the freezer.

re: #299 The Ghost of a Flea

I have three heads of cabbage and way too many red chilies.

Everybody thinking about making cookies can just shut up.

…pickled chili cabbage cookies?

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allegro  Jan 20, 2018 • 11:11:12pm

re: #298 JordanRules

I’m the weirdo who will always choose banana bread.

Especially with cream cheese. Nom.

Damn guys. I’ve been so good and you’re making me crazy.

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allegro  Jan 20, 2018 • 11:12:23pm

But on a healthy note, I will report that homemade apple butter in steel cut oatmeal is da bomb.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 20, 2018 • 11:13:51pm

re: #301 allegro

Especially with cream cheese. Nom.

Damn guys. I’ve been so good and you’re making me crazy.

I skip the walnuts and put in a bunch of craisins and noooooooooooooom this is what I get to eat after my long run tomorrow.

re: #302 allegro

But on a healthy note, I will report that homemade apple butter in steel cut oatmeal is da bomb.

That sounds really good too.

I think the biggest problem is I am hungry.

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BeachDem  Jan 20, 2018 • 11:14:46pm

re: #286 klys (maker of Silmarils)

WTF how do you not like raisins?

Cookie weirdo.

Uh oh—here we go—I only like raisins in their natural state—not baked or cooked into anything (too soggy.) I also like Savannah Smiles GS cookies. (But since I have no cookies at all right now, I wish I had some of your banana bread!)

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jan 20, 2018 • 11:16:10pm

re: #300 klys (maker of Silmarils)

…pickled chili cabbage cookies?

Kim cookies?

I’m planning to experiment with dolma tomorrow or the next day. Rolled cabbage packages and peppers. It’s a way of using up all the millet that’s near to it’s use-by date *and* isn’t any damn good for making cookies.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 20, 2018 • 11:16:14pm

re: #304 BeachDem

Uh oh—here we go—I only like raisins in their natural state—not baked or cooked into anything (too soggy.) I also like Savannah Smiles GS cookies. (But since I have no cookies at all right now, I wish I had some of your banana bread!)

You wouldn’t like it - I put in craisins!

It appears my cooking is just destined against you.

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BeachDem  Jan 20, 2018 • 11:17:57pm

re: #306 klys (maker of Silmarils)

You wouldn’t like it - I put in craisins!

It appears my cooking is just destined against you.

Now if you’d just gone with dried cranberries, we could get along.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 20, 2018 • 11:18:36pm

re: #307 BeachDem

Now if you’d just gone with dried cranberries, we could get along.

Oh. Well.

Craisins are the brand of dried cranberries I use. I used the pomegranate flavored ones for this because that’s all the store had. >.>

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CleverToad  Jan 20, 2018 • 11:20:05pm

It is midnight.
I am going to sleep now.
I am NOT going to go raid the cupboard for chocolate chips which it is far too late for and I shouldn’t be having anyway.
Definitely NOT.
Probably.
(There are raisins in there too, but they’re not singing siren songs of melty temptation…)

Goodnight, Lizards, and pleasant dreams of pink hats and pleasant comestibles

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BeachDem  Jan 20, 2018 • 11:22:32pm

re: #308 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Oh. Well.

Craisins are the brand of dried cranberries I use. I used the pomegranate flavored ones for this because that’s all the store had. >.>

Ah—I thought craisins were some creepy cranberry/raisin hybrid. If they’re just dried cranberries (I’ll ignore the whole pomegranate thing) I’d be fine. Cranberries seem to maintain their consistency in baking while I think raisins get soggy.

And with that brilliant bit of culinary wisdom, I think I’ll go read a book.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jan 20, 2018 • 11:24:44pm

re: #310 BeachDem

I’m going to kept awake wondering about whatever unspeakable rite is required to mate a grape vine and a cranberry bush.

My guess…it involves a lot of blackstrap rums, cigar, and goats.

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allegro  Jan 20, 2018 • 11:28:51pm

re: #306 klys (maker of Silmarils)

You wouldn’t like it - I put in craisins!

It appears my cooking is just destined against you.

Oooo craisins, chopped apples, nuts and Greek yogurt….

Yeah, I’m hungry too.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 20, 2018 • 11:30:10pm

re: #312 allegro

Oooo craisins, chopped apples, nuts and Greek yogurt….

Yeah, I’m hungry too.

I have Greek yogurt and apples and granola. Hmm. That would be healthier.

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allegro  Jan 20, 2018 • 11:31:46pm

re: #313 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I have Greek yogurt and apples and granola. Hmm. That would be healthier.

That would be good with granola. Adding it to my shopping list for tomorrow morning. :)

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 20, 2018 • 11:37:18pm

Quiet evening here. Stitching photo under the tag.

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Kragar  Jan 20, 2018 • 11:48:47pm
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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jan 20, 2018 • 11:51:39pm

re: #278 Anymouse 🌹

I am sorry I upset you.

You misspelled “annoyed.”

Perhaps I should stay out of conversations about social media in the future?

As you choose, but that would certainly be an improvement over repeating the same arguments against social media every time someone else mentions Facebook or Twitter.

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freetoken  Jan 20, 2018 • 11:54:58pm

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jan 21, 2018 • 12:01:59am

re: #318 freetoken

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 21, 2018 • 12:16:55am

SNL news:

“Hey, you’re from America where they elected that mentally challenged guy.”

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Kragar  Jan 21, 2018 • 1:00:04am
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Kragar  Jan 21, 2018 • 1:12:17am

This is bad

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 21, 2018 • 1:34:55am

Regarding yesterday’s hotel fire in Prague, it seems the fire started on the ground floor of the hotel. An investigation is underway, but the suspicion is that a refrigerator placed too close to a wall was the ignition source - from there, the fire spread to the next floor up and of course, smoke was everywhere (a chimney effect). Sadly, there’s been one additional fatality, bringing the death toll to three with nine injured, some of them quite seriously injured.

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readyfreddy815  Jan 21, 2018 • 1:57:28am

St. Louis too! Link

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 21, 2018 • 2:04:47am

re: #278 Anymouse 🌹

I am sorry I upset you. Perhaps I should stay out of conversations about social media in the future?

I am like that regarding Twitter: I am not on it and generally do not want to hear about what idiots are tweeting. Unfortunately, “trending on Twitter” has become a news item of its own, and to me, one of the harbingers of the Decline of Civilization as We Know it.

But I joined FB nearly ten years ago when a banjo student posted one of our band gigs and filled up the place with friends. Great way to advertise gigs or organize sessions.

I just leave it on when I am working on line (which is most of the days when I am not teaching) and post a few times a week.

But rarely anything political. I usually delete political posts on FB, be they pro or anti-Trump.

A couple more of my personal FB rules: I do not friend anyone I do not know from Real Life (c) and want to remain in touch with, and I do not “like” anything, whether I like in Real Life (c) or not.

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Thanos  Jan 21, 2018 • 3:29:55am

An interesting thing about this is that it’s not just a metro thing - they are marching in rural areas too. Here are some photos from Alaska from the ADN link :
adn.com

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wheat-dogg  Jan 21, 2018 • 3:41:19am

re: #326 Thanos

Trump is bringing us together.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 21, 2018 • 4:13:36am

re: #326 Thanos

An interesting thing about this is that it’s not just a metro thing - they are marching in rural areas too. Here are some photos from Alaska from the ADN link :
adn.com

Would be fascinating to find out the make-up of these crowds, especially the ones outside the major urban areas: how many are people who have marched before, how many are people who were against trump but did not vote or protest, and how many are disillusioned former voters/supporters?

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 21, 2018 • 5:01:57am

re: #285 goddamnedfrank

Oatmeal & raisin are pretty bad just because I creep up on them hoping they’re oatmeal & chocolate chip and then have my dreams crushed.

Same thing with eggplant parmesan masquerading as lasagna.

There outta be a law.

Wife gave me a wooden sign for ny desk that is very similar to this one:

It’s so very wrong
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 21, 2018 • 5:05:44am

re: #285 goddamnedfrank

Oatmeal & raisin are pretty bad just because I creep up on them hoping they’re oatmeal & chocolate chip and then have my dreams crushed.

Same thing with eggplant parmesan masquerading as lasagna.

There outta be a law.

beer vs root beer
milk vs kefir

and in europe:

onion rings vs. calamari rings

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 21, 2018 • 5:14:35am

re: #313 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I have Greek yogurt and apples and granola. Hmm. That would be healthier.

My favorite go to breffist at work is whole milk vanilla greek yogurt mixed with a healthy portion of old fashioned oats (uncooked, dry).

Don’t click on what my team of lawyers say I must disclose:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 21, 2018 • 5:19:47am

I make a big distinction between a weekend (Sunday) breakfast and a normal weekday breakfast, which to me is juice and coffee, I sometimes choke down a bowl of cornflakes, oat flakes or weetabix with fruit bits if I know that it will be a long time until lunch.

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sagehen  Jan 21, 2018 • 5:20:18am

re: #328 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Would be fascinating to find out the make-up of these crowds, especially the ones outside the major urban areas: how many are people who have marched before, how many are people who were against trump but did not vote or protest, and how many are disillusioned former voters/supporters?

The only pic I could find of Antarctica Women’s March was from last year:

usatoday.com

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dangerman  Jan 21, 2018 • 5:36:05am

good morning boys and girls

over the last year or so I made three predictions / errors of judgement

- the election itself - yeah, i was way wrong
- that at some point congress would “do something”, “have enough”, protect the system
- the medical exam doctor would be a stand up guy

ok i was wrong all three times
it wont happen again

oh, and oatmeal raisin masquerading as chocolate chip - pure evil

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 21, 2018 • 6:02:32am

re: #334 dangerman

good morning boys and girls

over the last year or so I made three predictions / errors of judgement

- the election itself - yeah, i was way wrong
- that at some point congress would “do something”, “have enough”, protect the system
- the medical exam doctor would be a stand up guy

ok i was wrong all three times
it wont happen again

oh, and oatmeal raisin masquerading as chocolate chip - pure evil

As for the election, remember, he did not win a majority or even a plurality, he was just able to successfully game the system.

I expected Congress to do nothing, they are not going to turn on their President until he becomes a political/electoral liability and a threat to their grasp on power.

As for medical exams, remember Grover Cleveland! I am surprised he was not held up to Trump for comparison…

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 21, 2018 • 6:14:27am

re: #330 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

beer vs root beer
milk vs kefir

and in europe:

onion rings vs. calamari rings

In Japan it’s donuts that look like Bismarcks but instead of jelly they’re filled with anko red bean paste.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2018 • 6:16:18am

re: #336 Barefoot Grin

In Japan it’s donuts that look like Bismarcks but instead of jelly they’re filled with anko red bean paste.

I think they have those in China too. Had a coworker from Taiwan bring some in one day.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 21, 2018 • 6:25:25am

re: #337 HappyWarrior

I think they have those in China too. Had a coworker from Taiwan bring some in one day.

They’re actually not bad, but not what you’re expecting when biting in to them.

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harlequinade  Jan 21, 2018 • 6:36:01am

re: #335 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I expected Congress to do nothing, they are not going to turn on their President until he becomes a political/electoral liability and a threat to their grasp on power.

I’ve been thinking about this…what’s the latest Congress can impeach/2something….5th? Trump to try and ride the popularity of that into less of a drubbing at the mid-terms?

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jeffreyw  Jan 21, 2018 • 6:37:09am

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Good morning!

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 21, 2018 • 6:40:53am

re: #340 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Meeting to select a new pope?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 21, 2018 • 6:41:18am

re: #339 harlequinade

I’ve been thinking about this…what’s the latest Congress can impeach/2something….5th? Trump to try and ride the popularity of that into less of a drubbing at the mid-terms?

again, Mueller is not even necessary: there is enough evidence out there of egregious and blatant violations of the emoluments clause, conflicts of interest and clear-cut obstruction of justice.

Mueller is being forced to present a case so clear-cut that Congress has to act on it, but I somehow see them finding ways to discredit or reject the findings.

As for mid-terms, I have never lost my faith in the Democrats’ ability to fully blow an opportunity handed to them on a silver platter (like a Trump cheeseburger)

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2018 • 6:44:11am

re: #338 Barefoot Grin

They’re actually not bad, but not what you’re expecting when biting in to them.

Yeah I liked them.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 21, 2018 • 6:44:36am

re: #341 Barefoot Grin

Meeting to select a new pope?

nope, there are females present

I have always said that I will not start to take the Catholic Church seriously as a social, religious and political entity until the day that the College of Cardinals and Cardinelles convenes to elect a new Popess.

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harlequinade  Jan 21, 2018 • 6:46:53am

re: #342 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I get that bit. It’s the after, I’m interested in.

They dump him in February and run on “He was a monster, and now we’re ok” or “It was clearly treason, and we need to make it up to the country. Give us one more chanc

IF getting rid of Trump would help their cause, weaken ours, when would they do to maximise the results?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2018 • 6:47:53am

re: #341 Barefoot Grin

Meeting to select a new pope?

Birdhouse Smoke. Band name?

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 21, 2018 • 6:51:10am

re: #344 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

nope, there are females present

I have always said that I will not start to take the Catholic Church seriously as a social, religious and political entity until the day that the College of Cardinals and Cardinelles convenes to elect a new Popess.

Oh, good call. And agree.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 21, 2018 • 6:53:42am

One day a college professor of Psychology was greeting his new college class. He stood up in front of the class and said, “Would everyone who thinks he or she is stupid please stand up?”

After a minute or so of silence, a young man stood up.

“Well, good morning. So, you actually think you’re a moron?” the professor asked.

The kid replied, “No sir, I just didn’t want to see you standing there all by yourself.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 21, 2018 • 7:02:37am

re: #345 harlequinade

I get that bit. It’s the after, I’m interested in.

They dump him in February and run on “He was a monster, and now we’re ok” or “It was clearly treason, and we need to make it up to the country. Give us one more chanc

IF getting rid of Trump would help their cause, weaken ours, when would they do to maximise the results?

there will be a lot of infighting in the party that will damage their cause. that is the one key aspect of Trump: he came to be nominated as a compromise between the extremist base and the Establishment who finally acquiesced and accepted him as their ticket to continue governing. Without the glue of DT holding the two factions together it will be a major civil war.

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ericblair  Jan 21, 2018 • 7:09:05am

re: #349 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

there will be a lot of infighting in the party that will damage their cause. that is the one key aspect of Trump: he came to be nominated as a compromise between the extremist base and the Establishment who finally acquiesced and accepted him as their ticket to continue governing. Without the glue of DT holding the two factions together it will be a major civil war.

Besides the fact that shitbag is not just going to sit in the corner and be a good boy if and when impeachment starts. He’s going to dump dirt on everyone around him, true or not, and try to take everyone down with him.

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scottslemmons  Jan 21, 2018 • 7:11:15am

re: #277 HappyWarrior

I was being silly. Lemon works better in lemon bars than cookies and in pie, oh how I love lemon meringue pie.

I have had excellent lemon cookies before. Iced lemonade cookies are amazing, and there are rare occasions you can find lemon (or lemon-orange or some other combination) sandwich cream cookies in among the bargain brand cookies.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 21, 2018 • 7:13:48am

re: #350 ericblair

Besides the fact that shitbag is not just going to sit in the corner and be a good boy if and when impeachment starts. He’s going to dump dirt on everyone around him, true or not, and try to take everyone down with him.

he will spin it as Washington Establishment vs Man of the People, and his fans will lap it up while the press reports on it as if his viewpoint had any real merit.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 21, 2018 • 7:27:31am

re: #352 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

he will spin it as Washington Establishment vs Man of the People, and his fans will lap it up while the press reports on it as if his viewpoint had any real merit.

Regardless of the Washington insiders bit, the fact that his sycophant cult will believe “the man of the people” part is just shocking.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2018 • 7:30:06am

re: #353 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Regardless of the Washington insiders bit, the fact that his sycophant cult will believe “the man of the people” part is just shocking.

It is but it’s a cult of personality.

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The Major  Jan 21, 2018 • 7:32:55am

re: #344 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I have always said that I will not start to take the Catholic Church seriously as a social, religious and political entity until the day that the College of Cardinals and Cardinelles convenes to elect a new Popess.

In the most-excellent sci-fi series Babyon 5 they made reference to Pope Bernadette - so at least someone (probably JMZ himself) has hope that Mother Rome will loosen up…

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The Major  Jan 21, 2018 • 7:34:03am

re: #342 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

As for mid-terms, I have never lost my faith in the Democrats’ ability to fully blow an opportunity handed to them on a silver platter (like a Trump cheeseburger)

Yes, the Dens do have that nasty habit of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory…

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Belafon  Jan 21, 2018 • 7:36:11am

re: #345 harlequinade

I get that bit. It’s the after, I’m interested in.

They dump him in February and run on “He was a monster, and now we’re ok” or “It was clearly treason, and we need to make it up to the country. Give us one more chanc

IF getting rid of Trump would help their cause, weaken ours, when would they do to maximise the results?

Being the party in charge, elected by people who loves them some Trump, there is no time. They vote to impeach Trump, their base turns on them. And do you see Mitch proposing any kind of Medicare/Medicaid fix?

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harlequinade  Jan 21, 2018 • 7:38:48am

re: #352 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

How strong are his fans compared to the people the party is hemorrhaging?
And will it deflate some resistance?

And how will the press play it?

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Targetpractice  Jan 21, 2018 • 7:41:44am

The wisdom of Eric Trump:

“Honestly, I think it’s a good thing for us,” he said when asked about the government shutdown, which took place Saturday after Congress failed to agree a new federal budget.

“People see through it. I mean, people have seen a year that’s incredible. It’s been filled with nothing but the best for our country, ‘America First’ policies, and they’re happy with where we are as a nation.”

He claimed that Democrats want to shut the government down because they want to stop his father’s momentum.

“I mean, my father has had incredible momentum. He has gotten more done in one year than arguably any president in history. How do they divert from that message? How do they save their own party when they don’t have any leadership, they don’t have any good candidates out there, they don’t have a message of their own? How do they do that? They obstruct, they distract, they try and place blame,” he said.

It really seems that the only “smart one” in this family is Tiffany.

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Belafon  Jan 21, 2018 • 7:42:43am

I don’t see the resistance going “Finally, Republicans did something about Trump. I’ll take another look at them.” The Republican sexism will still be there.

As for the press, they won’t change because they’re doing it right now.

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MsJ  Jan 21, 2018 • 7:44:50am

re: #359 Targetpractice

The wisdom of Eric Trump:

It really seems that the only “smart one” in this family is Tiffany.

Only because she rarely speaks.

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Belafon  Jan 21, 2018 • 7:45:44am

re: #361 MsJ

Only because she rarely speaks.

Not proving you’re an idiot by opening your mouth at least shows wisdom.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2018 • 7:47:00am

re: #362 Belafon

Not proving you’re an idiot by opening your mouth at least shows wisdom.

Barron has that going for him.

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Targetpractice  Jan 21, 2018 • 7:52:36am

I think what really sticks out for me in Eric’s statement is claiming the DNC has “no leadership.” It’s funny, but so far I see Nancy and Chuck holding the line pretty well, where as Donny is too busy sitting in the Oval Office while the GOP Congressional leadership is sitting around with its thumb up its ass. The DNC are working to get a deal made and government restarted while the GOP are stamping their feet and demanding they get their way.

Yes, the American people are indeed watching, Eric. Problem is, history shows us that the party which wants to get shit done looks better than the one that believes a shutdown is “good” for the country and negotiation is unnecessary.

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Belafon  Jan 21, 2018 • 7:53:30am

Today’s Republican party is built on principle. As a matter of principle, the GOP believes it is the only party that can shut down government as a negotiating tactic. The Democrats’ job is to keep that government open and to cave in to its demands.

These truths we hold to be self-evident, after watching several rounds of this sad kabuki theater through the Clinton and Obama years.

Now that the Democrats have triggered a government shutdown, Republicans are outraged. Because of their principles, you know.

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harlequinade  Jan 21, 2018 • 7:58:17am

re: #357 Belafon

I don’t see them doing anything. But if they can get their cake and eat it, and govern, I wouldn’t put that past them

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Belafon  Jan 21, 2018 • 8:09:46am

Around my area of DFW, and throughout DFW, we are starting to get a lot of what I call high-middle class restaurants, restaurants you can take your family to, but they offer a rather limited menu, and cost about 30-50% more than a lot of the standard family restaurants. I see a lot of them inspired by a number of the Food Network shows about niche restaurants.

This is happening because there’s a whole lot of extra money in my part of the Metroplex. I’m wondering if this is similar to what was happening in the US in the early 1920s. A lot of people here can regularly spend money on eating out (we eat out at a higher rate than New York City residents), and then complain about paying higher property taxes for education.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 21, 2018 • 8:11:46am

re: #367 Belafon

Happening here, not just coincidental with a lot of entertainment/studio investment pouring in. A Poke place. A rolled ice cream place. A Pho restaurant. All within blocks, all very niche.

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Targetpractice  Jan 21, 2018 • 8:12:19am

You really can’t orchestrate a shutdown and then act as though you didn’t want one in the first place, and yet that’s exactly what the GOP wants us to believe. Bringing up a CR only days prior to a shutdown, loading it with items they knew the DNC would balk at being in the bill, and then taking steps to ensure that only that bill would receive consideration. Atop all that, the CR only extends the deadline for 30 days, which combined with McConnell’s announcement that there will be no Senate budget resolution this year means we’re going to be limping along for the next year on CRs. After spending the better part of 8 years whining that no budget has been passed, the GOP has just abandoned the process altogether and wants the country to operate on a patchwork quilt made of monthly budget crises.

This shutdown is the result of months of poor leadership and cynical partisanship and if the DNC surrenders, it’s only going to continue to get worse as the GOP panic over their impending losses.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 21, 2018 • 8:12:56am
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ObserverArt  Jan 21, 2018 • 8:17:01am

re: #340 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Nice image Jeffrey. Good colors in that one. All cardinals adding that red accent.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 21, 2018 • 8:19:17am

re: #367 Belafon

re: #368 Unshaken Defiance

Interestingly, there’s been a whole shit-ton of cafes, wine bars and new restaurants opening up in the city center of Ostrava. And while that’s all well and good, the big problem I can see is that there’s not that many people here with that level of disposable income to support all these establishments. Not too mention there’s an entire 1.5 km long street filled with bars and pubs (Stodolní Street) in the center as well - that’s usually hopping on a summer evening.

The one and only Mexican place has survived longer than I thought it would - it’s been here now for a little over one year and it does good business, usually because they cater to the lunch-rush crowd of office workers; I’ve even taken one of my students there, as she’d never tried Mexican cuisine before and she’s gone on to recommend it and take others there herself.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 21, 2018 • 8:20:14am

re: #360 Belafon

I don’t see the resistance going “Finally, Republicans did something about Trump. I’ll take another look at them.” The Republican sexism will still be there.

As for the press, they won’t change because they’re doing it right now.

Well if I’m any example, the GOP gets extinction for our trouble. Histories dustbin. Wild guess-We get another party, I’d guess a splinter, maybe the far left gets its own party and the dems persist. Hard case righties can deal with no party, fine with me.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 21, 2018 • 8:21:40am
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PhillyPretzel  Jan 21, 2018 • 8:23:22am

re: #373 Unshaken Defiance

From what I have seen so far in Philly is that most of the Republicans who are moderates like myself are supporting Democrats. As I have stated before in the past two elections we have handed out Democratic lit.

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Targetpractice  Jan 21, 2018 • 8:23:50am

re: #374 FormerDirtDart

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Yeah, because when the gov’t shutdown in 2013, I remember clearly how Obama had the White House recording turned into a childish whine about how mean the Republicans were being.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 21, 2018 • 8:24:41am

New Lizard deserves a little recognition, excellent photo Page.
littlegreenfootballs.com

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ericblair  Jan 21, 2018 • 8:32:47am

re: #373 Unshaken Defiance

Well if I’m any example, the GOP gets extinction for our trouble. Histories dustbin. Wild guess-We get another party, I’d guess a splinter, maybe the far left gets its own party and the dems persist. Hard case righties can deal with no party, fine with me.

This has happened in other countries. The Progressive Conservatives in Canada, 1993. Went from 154 seats (a majority) to 2. Bam. The internal coalition blew up, they went from 43% support to like 16%. Eventually the zombie corpse got taken over by the (relatively) nutso rightwing Reform party and came back for way too many years of Prime Minister Harper.

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dangerman  Jan 21, 2018 • 8:33:39am

re: #365 Belafon

Today’s Republican party is built on principle. As a matter of principle, the GOP believes it is the only party that can shut down government as a negotiating tactic. The Democrats’ job is to keep that government open and to cave in to its demands.

These truths we hold to be self-evident, after watching several rounds of this sad kabuki theater through the Clinton and Obama years.

Now that the Democrats have triggered a government shutdown, Republicans are outraged. Because of their principles, you know.

nope. not the bold part.

the dems did not “trigger” this. the republicans own congress and the white house.
AND they’ve been kicking the budgetary, daca and CHIP cans down the road for months.
further they are choosing to not even contemplate a proper budget for this year at all.

its not the dems job to give the reps whatever they want.

this shutdown is the result of the reps benignly and actively abdicating their leadership and governance responsibilities for a very long time prior.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 21, 2018 • 8:34:40am

re: #362 Belafon

Not proving you’re an idiot by opening your mouth at least shows wisdom.

there is an Abraham Lincoln quote about how it is better to remain silent and thought an idiot than open one’s mouth and remove all doubt.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 21, 2018 • 8:35:16am

re: #345 harlequinade

I get that bit. It’s the after, I’m interested in.

They dump him in February and run on “He was a monster, and now we’re ok” or “It was clearly treason, and we need to make it up to the country. Give us one more chanc

IF getting rid of Trump would help their cause, weaken ours, when would they do to maximise the results?

Respectfully disagree, thinking getting rid of Trump can only strengthen us. I don’t see any other scenario if he gets bounced or quits. Trump voter inner dialog will never be Trump was a monster.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 21, 2018 • 8:35:39am

re: #369 Targetpractice

This shutdown is the result of months of poor leadership and cynical partisanship and if the DNC surrenders, it’s only going to continue to get worse as the GOP panic over their impending losses.

The press is so big into both-siderism that they will take up that narrative without question

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 21, 2018 • 8:36:00am

And now CNN is discussing their new poll with Republicans closing the gap to 5 points in their latest Congressional Preference poll.

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dangerman  Jan 21, 2018 • 8:36:25am

re: #374 FormerDirtDart

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the recorded message may be “real”.

and it is a lie.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jan 21, 2018 • 8:37:01am

re: #359 Targetpractice

The wisdom of Eric Trump:

It really seems that the only “smart one” in this family is Tiffany.

Last week (I think), I saw a picture of DT and Melania, with Barron behind them in a Star Trek uniform. So add one more to the benefit of the doubt list (anyway, he’s 10, right)?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 21, 2018 • 8:37:30am

Depressing but true…

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 21, 2018 • 8:38:14am

Cute?
I think not. It should send shivers up your spines…

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dangerman  Jan 21, 2018 • 8:40:29am

re: #379 dangerman

nope. not the bold part.

the dems did not “trigger” this. the republicans own congress and the white house.
AND they’ve been kicking the budgetary, daca and CHIP cans down the road for months.
further they are choosing to not even contemplate a proper budget for this year at all.

its not the dems job to give the reps whatever they want.

this shutdown is the result of the reps benignly and actively abdicating their leadership and governance responsibilities for a very long time prior.

further, this last year has been legislating by crisis. no looking ahead, planning ahead, seeing what’s coming up, what may expire or need attention. no plan, no message, no goal. it’s really not that hard. they just won’t do it because addressing any issue requires working with the dems.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 21, 2018 • 8:40:44am

re: #386 Joe Bacon 🌹

It’s probably not an overstatement to say that the length of the government shut down depends largely on a Sunday evening meeting between a select few people: the producers of Fox & Friends

If they start to imply on the Morning News that this shutdown is a) a bad thing and b) predominantly the fault of he majority ruling party, then DT will find a way to settle things before cheeseburger time.

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retired cynic  Jan 21, 2018 • 8:41:32am

re: #374 FormerDirtDart

And then there is that horrible RNC anti-immigration ad:

washingtonmonthly.com

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Jay C  Jan 21, 2018 • 8:42:36am

re: #374 FormerDirtDart

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Childish and inane as it is, this message is actually mild compared to some stuff out there. We were watching George Stephanopolous’ show this morning and he was interviewing some WH drone over the shutdown (Marc Short(??) - bald white guy), and George showed him a clip of a Trump “campaign commercial”* which featured grainy loops of Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi with the overtitles of “Complicit With Evil”, and the direct message that, because of the shutdown, Democrats will be guiltily complicit in the murder of citizens by criminal illegal aliens. Disgusting crap (though par-for-the-course for Trumpians): the interesting thing was the WH guy’s reaction (he’d obviously never seen it): he just stared, and hastily changed the subject when Stephanopolous called him on it.

BTW, anybody know what happened wrt military payrolls during past government shutdowns? From listening to GOPers’ whines, they act as if the whole Services are going to just walk off the job if the shutdown persists….

* I thought it was some rancid leftover from the 2016 campaign, but apparently it’s brand-new

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Targetpractice  Jan 21, 2018 • 8:42:42am

re: #383 Joe Bacon 🌹

And now CNN is discussing their new poll with Republicans closing the gap to 5 points in their latest Congressional Preference poll.

The “liberal” media is getting scared that their “horse race” narrative that busts out every election season is in danger of being subsumed by a blue tsunami.

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ObserverArt  Jan 21, 2018 • 8:42:51am

re: #387 FormerDirtDart

Cute?
I think not. It should send shivers up your spines…

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OH GAWD NO…THE BUNNIES ARE COMING FOR US!

What are we gonna do, we are helpless against their fluffy cuteness. And then…

(I hope they aren’t bringing raisins too)

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Jay C  Jan 21, 2018 • 8:44:25am

re: #390 retired cynic

Sorry, rc: a minute late……

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The Major  Jan 21, 2018 • 8:46:34am

re: #393 ObserverArt

OH GAWD NO…THE BUNNIES ARE COMING FOR US!

What are we gonna do, we are helpless against their fluffy cuteness. And then…

Better break out as many Holy Hand Grenade of Antoichs as you can lay your hands on…

Monty Python The Holy Grail - The killer bunny

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ObserverArt  Jan 21, 2018 • 8:46:54am

re: #388 dangerman

further, this last year has been legislating by crisis. no looking ahead, planning ahead, seeing what’s coming up, what may expire or need attention. no plan, no message, no goal. it’s really not that hard. they just won’t do it because addressing any issue requires working with the dems.

Not only working with Dems…making sure their Tea Freedom jerks don’t take them down from within. And then the hourly changes of El Orange. It’s a three-front battle.

And freakin’ Cotton made that clear on MTP today. He came out and said he will not just support something Trump agrees to with Dems and Repugs like Graham, it has to be good for the people of Arkansas and America and Tom Cotton’s power-trip.

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Lupin  Jan 21, 2018 • 8:52:02am

At this point, even though 50% of my assets are still invested in the US and I would pay a hefty price, half of me is wishing that not only the shutdown continues beyond the reasonable point, but also that the debt ceiling is not increased and the US defaults on its debt, precipitating a major crisis.

The country needs to bleed, really bleed, before they can purge the Trump oligarchs out, dispelling that insane notion that “trump is good for the economy” (e.g. witless Andy Sullivan on Bill Maher yesterday) even if it costs me half of my money.

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Mattand  Jan 21, 2018 • 8:53:31am

re: #271 Anymouse 🌹

When I was stationed in Spain, the Girl Scout troop on base would have cookies to sell all over Rota delivered by Navy cargo plane.

The day the plane with the cookies arrived, half the base would turn out to help move pallets of cookies.

The base Girl Scouts troop sold way more cookies out in town than they did on base to Spanish citizens.

Alas, we can’t get any Girl Scout cookies here, because no Girl Scouts are around here. (I understand you can order them on-line.)

The 4-H sells homemade cookies though, so we get local goodness when they bring those around.

Tangentially related to Girl Scouts:

I worked with a born-again, Bush Jr-was-too-liberal conservative for a number of years. Normally, he kept most of his insane views out of normal work discourse. We were talking about something to do with Girl Scouts being way more tolerant of LGBTQ people. He borderline angrily offered up that he never allowed his daughter to join the Girl Scouts because of their lesbian agenda.

I burst out laughing. He turned several shades of red and walked out of the room. It would not surprise me if that is part of the reason that company doesn’t hire me anymore.

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Targetpractice  Jan 21, 2018 • 8:53:42am

re: #396 ObserverArt

Not only working with Dems…making sure their Tea Freedom jerks don’t take them down from within. And then the hourly changes of El Orange. It’s a three-front battle.

And freakin’ Cotton made that clear on MTP today. He came out and said he will not just support something Trump agrees to with Dems and Repugs like Graham, it has to be good for the people of Arkansas and America and Tom Cotton’s power-trip.

The GOP keeps trying to present a “unified” front and their wingnut media buddies try to claim that it’s the DNC that’s fractured, but the reality is that the GOP’s division is only getting larger by the day. Ryan’s found himself exactly in the same position John of Orange did: If he wants to get shit done he has to work with Nancy but knows doing so will mean a leadership challenge from the FC fuckheads. McConnell doesn’t really face the same danger, so he’s instead sabotaging Senate business just to avoid said leadership challenge in the House.

And rather than having a president who can assuage the two sides, they have one who will support whoever talked to him last. So every time they think they have him on their side and ready to support their agenda, shitstains like Cotton sneak in and change his mind, blowing up all their work and only furthering the division.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 21, 2018 • 8:54:50am

re: #387 FormerDirtDart

Night of the Lepus? Oh, that one’s a doozy.

Night Of The Lepus (Trailer)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 21, 2018 • 8:56:10am

re: #399 Targetpractice

The GOP keeps trying to present a “unified” front and their wingnut media buddies try to claim that it’s the DNC that’s fractured, but the reality is that the GOP’s division is only getting larger by the day. ..
And rather than having a president who can assuage the two sides, they have one who will support whoever talked to him last.

Trump is not the glue holding them together, more like a deflating tire that prevents them from crashing into each other.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 21, 2018 • 8:57:05am

re: #387 FormerDirtDart

Cute?
I think not. It should send shivers up your spines…

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I remember watching Night of the Lepus when I was in college. It was on Pittsburgh’s Chiller Theater back in the 70’s and host Chilly Billy Cardille kept doing cut-ins on the movie endlessly goofing on it!

Night of the Lepus (Best Clips!!)

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 21, 2018 • 8:59:59am

re: #390 retired cynic

“Democrats will be complicit in every murder committed by illegal immigrants.”

Anybody runs that by me and I will insist then the GOP is complicit in all the KKK, anti abortion, anti government and racially based terror attacks. And I can make it stick. Most certainly including Oklahoma city.

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The Major  Jan 21, 2018 • 9:00:09am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2018 • 9:00:27am

re: #404 The Major

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WTF.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 21, 2018 • 9:02:58am

re: #395 The Major

You rang?

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dangerman  Jan 21, 2018 • 9:03:01am

re: #403 Unshaken Defiance

Anybody runs that by me and I will insist then the GOP is complicit in all the KKK, anti abortion, anti government and racists based terror attack. And I can make it stick. Most certainly including Oklahoma city.

It’s an inane, stupid statement by any standard except one.
Sigh
Yeah. Perfect for “the base”

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The Major  Jan 21, 2018 • 9:08:01am

re: #404 The Major

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 21, 2018 • 9:08:16am

re: #407 dangerman

It’s an inane, stupid statement by any standard except one.
Sigh
Yeah. Perfect for “the base”

And we will probably hear it endlessly repeated on Fox and Fiends…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 21, 2018 • 9:09:32am

re: #408 The Major

Here is how she promotes the death industry - by using her sexuality to “piss off liberals” by selling weapons of death. Need I say more ?

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makeitstop  Jan 21, 2018 • 9:19:39am

I mentioned yesterday that my wife and I went out to Captree State Park and took photos of the sunrise over the Great South Bay, with the Fire Island lighthouse off in the distance. Here are a couple.

It was cold, but it was worth it.

Lighthouse says ‘Hey, over here, I got you’
Fishing pier and GSB
To the west, Robert Moses Causeway Bridge to Fire Island
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FormerDirtDart  Jan 21, 2018 • 9:23:09am
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BigPapa  Jan 21, 2018 • 9:24:22am

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2018 • 9:24:43am

re: #411 makeitstop

I mentioned yesterday that my wife and I went out to Captree State Park and took photos of the sunrise over the Great South Bay, with the Fire Island lighthouse off in the distance. Here are a couple.

It was cold, but it was worth it.

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Nice photos.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 21, 2018 • 9:25:40am

re: #412 FormerDirtDart

That reminds me of the kitty trying to get the collar off from its neck.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2018 • 9:25:54am

re: #408 The Major

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You know, I get the impression she doesn’t know how to use a gun at all and is just an attractive woman that they use to sexualize guns. The only question I have is when the gun nuts are looking at her and the gun, are they more aroused by her or the gun. I swear guns are the only issue that woman cares about. She’s also a psychotic nutjob.

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makeitstop  Jan 21, 2018 • 9:27:14am

re: #414 HappyWarrior

Nice photos.

Thanks. We were out there for nearly an hour, and I took roughly 100 shots of the same thing. :)

The colors as the sun got closer to rising were pretty gorgeous.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2018 • 9:28:25am

re: #417 makeitstop

Thanks. We were out there for nearly an hour, and I took roughly 100 shots of the same thing. :)

The colors as the sun got closer to rising were pretty gorgeous.

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I’ve always loved shots of the skyline meeting the water. And you got it at such a beautiful time of day too when the sun isn’t too shiny and it’s not too dark.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 21, 2018 • 9:29:03am

re: #416 HappyWarrior

You know, I get the impression she doesn’t know how to use a gun at all and is just an attractive woman that they use to sexualize guns. The only question I have is when the gun nuts are looking at her and the gun, are they more aroused by her or the gun. I swear guns are the only issue that woman cares about. She’s also a psychotic nutjob.

Happy we know that the answer is that those NRA folks get off on the Iron Pee Pee.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2018 • 9:32:27am

re: #419 Joe Bacon 🌹

Happy we know that the answer is that those NRA folks get off on the Iron Pee Pee.

Heh I know. I am glad we don’t see as much gun pornography as we used to. Probably because no Democrat is in the WH for the stupid Twitter memes that VB used to fine and post. Gun nuts are weird. Nothing wrong with being a gun owner. We have many here whom I greatly like and respect but gun nuts are weird in that they need scantily clad women to rationalize their belief. Can you imagine 1st amendment pseudo-porn? LOL.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 21, 2018 • 9:34:17am

re: #420 HappyWarrior

Heh I know. I am glad we don’t see as much gun pornography as we used to. Probably because no Democrat is in the WH for the stupid Twitter memes that VB used to fine and post. Gun nuts are weird. Nothing wrong with being a gun owner. We have many here whom I greatly like and respect but gun nuts are weird in that they need scantily clad women to rationalize their belief. Can you imagine 1st amendment pseudo-porn? LOL.

Happy, any good psychiatrist can explain why they love a big stiff piece of iron…

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makeitstop  Jan 21, 2018 • 9:34:33am

Pretty solid proof that Manning’s run is standard-grade ratfucking.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2018 • 9:35:14am

re: #421 Joe Bacon 🌹

Happy, any good psychiatrist can explain why they love a big stiff piece of iron…

Oh believe me I know. It’s just as amusing as hell to me. And their need to put down other men like myself who don’t personally like or more over need a gun.

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makeitstop  Jan 21, 2018 • 9:35:43am

re: #420 HappyWarrior

Heh I know. I am glad we don’t see as much gun pornography as we used to.

I think that has a lot to do with a certain former Lizard who isn’t around to subject us to it.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 21, 2018 • 9:36:00am

Just an FYI, Amazon Prime video now has 4 seasons of Battlestar Galactica streaming.
4 seasons…… #BGBurnoutBaby!

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Targetpractice  Jan 21, 2018 • 9:36:26am

This was not a good news day for the GOP:

“Are Democrats complicit?” Dickerson asked Ryan.

“Well, they’re certainly not helping us keep the government open,” Ryan replied glibly. “They’re certainly not helping us on a solution to immigration. When you shut down the government and stop negotiating on immigration reform, they are complicit with not getting things done.”

“But are they complicit in murders?” Dickerson pressed.

“I’m not going to comment,” Ryan insisted after initially commenting. “I just saw that. I don’t know if that’s necessarily productive. It’s not secret the president has strong views on immigration. But what is not productive is a pointless government shutdown that the Senate Democrats have foisted on this country.”

Ryan is now the second Republican today caught on camera admitting he had no idea that Trump had dropped an atom bomb on the GOP’s whole line about just wanting to keep the government open. And the second one who, when confronted about this toxic piece of shit, avoided making any comment about it at all.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2018 • 9:36:32am

re: #422 makeitstop

Pretty solid proof that Manning’s run is standard-grade ratfucking.

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You know if I was actually serious about a Senate run, I wouldn’t go anywhere near those guys even if it was for ratfucking. She wants to be taken seriously as a Senate candidate. Stay the fuck away from those guys. As I said last night, never got the hero worship of her. I don’t think she’s akin to Aldridge Ames or Bob Hannsen but she’s not a hero either.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 21, 2018 • 9:36:38am

re: #404 The Major

The NYT is done. What do they get out of capitulating to Conservatives? Trump is still referring to them as “fake news”.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2018 • 9:36:53am

re: #424 makeitstop

I think that has a lot to do with a certain former Lizard who isn’t around to subject us to it.

Yeah you don’t say.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 21, 2018 • 9:37:05am

re: #420 HappyWarrior

Heh I know. I am glad we don’t see as much gun pornography as we used to. Probably because no Democrat is in the WH for the stupid Twitter memes that VB used to fine and post. Gun nuts are weird. Nothing wrong with being a gun owner….

If you want to own a gun and use responsibly it to defend your home and family, then I guess that is your right. But they still promote the myth that a gun is a magic talisman that will allow Good Guys to defeat terrorists and criminals in a public shoot-out or hostage situation.

That sort of thing calls for a level of training and experience that only a handful of professionals can ever be expected to attain.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 21, 2018 • 9:37:24am

re: #426 Targetpractice

Spineless groveling coward.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2018 • 9:37:55am

re: #426 Targetpractice

This was not a good news day for the GOP:

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Ryan is now the second Republican today caught on camera admitting he had no idea that Trump had dropped an atom bomb on the GOP’s whole line about just wanting to keep the government open. And the second one who, when confronted about this toxic piece of shit, avoided making any comment about it at all.

Ryan’s a coward. He’s always been. He’s the kind of guy who would lie about marathon times. Oh wait.

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retired cynic  Jan 21, 2018 • 9:38:27am

Good WaPo article about a documentary film by Maxim Pozdorovkin called Our New President, which “implicitly asks what happens when a diet of misinformation becomes a feast.” It’s about the lies that are officially told to the Russian people about us. Almost all of it is clips of propaganda, with some short sections of what that has done to the Russian people. Boy, it sounds familiar and scary.

washingtonpost.com

I bet you didn’t know that Hilary is satanic and that DT is noble, but was born into poverty in Brooklyn. This is the propaganda that got those Russian people cheering his win, and celebrating their escape from a dying satanic child molester.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 21, 2018 • 9:38:45am

re: #425 Dave In Austin

Just an FYI, Amazon Prime video now has 4 seasons of Battlestar Galactica streaming.
4 seasons…… #BGBurnoutBaby!

I remember going to see the original film when it came out in 1978, was unimpressed (too Star Wars-like without being an improvement on it) and never watched the original series. Is the new one of interest to a moderate-level sci-fi fan?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2018 • 9:39:13am

re: #430 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If you want to own a gun and use responsibly it to defend your home and family, then I guess that is your right. But they still promote the myth that a gun is a magic talisman that will allow Good Guys to defeat terrorists and criminals in a public shoot-out or hostage situation.

That sort of thing calls for a level of training and experience that only a handful of professionals can ever be expected to attain.

That and their attacks on businesses who don’t want guns in their establishments bother me a lot. And then these are the same people who think businesses should be able to discriminate against people solely on their sexuality but heaven forbid if a business doesn’t want someone open carrying in their place of business especially if their place of business sells alcohol.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 21, 2018 • 9:39:52am

re: #433 retired cynic

Good WaPo article about a documentary film by Maxim Pozdorovkin called Our New President, which “implicitly asks what happens when a diet of misinformation becomes a feast.” It’s about the lies that are officially told to the Russian people about us. Almost all of it is clips of propaganda, with some short sections of what that has done to the Russian people. Boy, it sounds familiar and scary.

I have talked with Russians who are convinced that Obama and Hillary were ready to practice genocide on the Russian people.

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ObserverArt  Jan 21, 2018 • 9:40:17am

makeitstop…

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Targetpractice  Jan 21, 2018 • 9:40:52am

re: #428 Patricia Kayden

The NYT is done. What do they get out of capitulating to Conservatives? Trump is still referring to them as “fake news”.

They get “access” and that’s all they care about. IIRC, both of their “White House correspondents” are working on a book about the inner workings of the Trump admin and so are scared shitless about saying or doing something that would get them barred from the Oval Office. So don’t expect any sort of “objective” reporting from them any earlier than the publication of that book.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 21, 2018 • 9:41:06am

re: #428 Patricia Kayden

The NYT is done. What do they get out of capitulating to Conservatives? Trump is still referring to them as “fake news”.

As I’ve said all along The New York Times is just another cog in the GOP 24/7 Bullshit Machine.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 21, 2018 • 9:41:29am

re: #435 HappyWarrior

That and their attacks on businesses who don’t want guns in their establishments bother me a lot. And then these are the same people who think businesses should be able to discriminate against people solely on their sexuality but heaven forbid if a business doesn’t want someone open carrying in their place of business especially if their place of business sells alcohol.

and insisting that open-carry rights granted in one state should be recognized everywhere.

the Fugitive Slave Act for guns

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Targetpractice  Jan 21, 2018 • 9:41:59am

re: #434 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I remember going to see the original film when it came out in 1978, was unimpressed (too Star Wars-like without being an improvement on it) and never watched the original series. Is the new one of interest to a moderate-level sci-fi fan?

The first seasons were good. But then it got bogged down in symbolism and religious metaphors that ultimately led to a shit ending.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2018 • 9:42:43am

re: #433 retired cynic

Good WaPo article about a documentary film by Maxim Pozdorovkin called Our New President, which “implicitly asks what happens when a diet of misinformation becomes a feast.” It’s about the lies that are officially told to the Russian people about us. Almost all of it is clips of propaganda, with some short sections of what that has done to the Russian people. Boy, it sounds familiar and scary.

washingtonpost.com

I bet you didn’t know that Hilary is satanic and that DT is noble, but was born into poverty in Brooklyn. This is the propaganda that got those Russian people cheering his win, and celebrating their escape from a dying satanic child molester.

Propaganda works. I’ve seen with my own two eyes what happens when people get convinced of easily debunked falsehoods.

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jeffreyw  Jan 21, 2018 • 9:44:24am

re: #371 ObserverArt

Nice image Jeffrey. Good colors in that one. All cardinals adding that red accent.

I bought a new camera for that location, it replaces one I bought new
in 2010. A higher resolution, and better color rendering. The newest camera is this one. It has a faster lens, too.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2018 • 9:45:10am

re: #440 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and insisting that open-carry rights granted in one state should be recognized everywhere.

the Fugitive Slave Act for guns

Yep absolutely. The thing that bugs me the most though is when they talk about Chicago though. You know being from much more lax Indiana, the city’s proximity to that state. Not to mention Chicago isn’t nearly as high as they think it is in murder rate. In fact, a lot of red state cities have much higher rates.
bismarcktribune.com

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 21, 2018 • 9:46:32am

OH LOOK WHAT FUX NOISE IS PROMOTING:

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makeitstop  Jan 21, 2018 • 9:46:57am

re: #437 ObserverArt

makeitstop…

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2018 • 9:48:08am

re: #445 The Vicious Babushka

OH LOOK WHAT FUX NOISE IS PROMOTING:

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This is going to be devastating to President Hillary Clinton. Okay jokes aside, nice to know FNC is focused on current events. But this is exactly how people get brainwashed. Instead of focusing on current scandals, they go back to the 90’s to bring up the Clintons. Not like you saw MSNBC focusing on Reagan’s crooked administration in the Obama years.

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Targetpractice  Jan 21, 2018 • 9:48:37am

re: #445 The Vicious Babushka

OH LOOK WHAT FUX NOISE IS PROMOTING:

[Embedded content]

This has the feel of something they were working on back in 2016, with the expectation that they’d be playing it during a Hillary administration.

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The Major  Jan 21, 2018 • 9:48:54am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2018 • 9:51:26am

re: #449 The Major

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The side that pushed non stop ACA repeals while its signer was in office has no room to talk about obstruction. As for them having opposed illegal immigration in the past. That much is true, the difference is a thing callled nuance that stupid sob Murdoch never figured out, we’re supporting DREAMers who came here as children. People who know other home than the US. There was a DREAMer at the Cleveland march yesterday, she came here from Mexico when she was younger than my niece is now, her English is unaccented, etc. The DREAMers are Americans.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2018 • 9:52:06am

re: #448 Targetpractice

This has the feel of something they were working on back in 2016, with the expectation that they’d be playing it during a Hillary administration.

Wouldn’t surprise me. FNC is a racket for gullible people.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 21, 2018 • 9:53:54am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2018 • 9:57:29am

re: #452 The Vicious Babushka

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What FNC won’t tell you when they accuse the Dems of taking a salary themselves while the military doesn’t get paid. See, also that many Dems have sponsored measures to have Congress not paid during the Shutdown.

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Jay C  Jan 21, 2018 • 9:59:10am

re: #426 Targetpractice

This was not a good news day for the GOP:

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Ryan is now the second Republican today caught on camera admitting he had no idea that Trump had dropped an atom bomb on the GOP’s whole line about just wanting to keep the government open. And the second one who, when confronted about this toxic piece of shit, avoided making any comment about it at all.

Which is why I think that ad was dropped without anyone “higher-up” being apprised -or even aware of it (still less consulted or in a position to control its release). I’m thinking (hoping, really) that this will have the usual effect Trumpian propaganda BS does: i.e. change the conversation from the particulars of legislative deal- making to a more simplistic “Republicans are calling Democrats murderers” narrative.
Wonder who (if anyone) in the WH/campaign knew about this ad?

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 21, 2018 • 10:01:53am

re: #183 Kragar

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As he sat there, he twirled 3 marbles in his tiny hand while mumbling something about strawberries.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 21, 2018 • 10:02:39am

re: #444 HappyWarrior

Yep absolutely. The thing that bugs me the most though is when they talk about Chicago though. You know being from much more lax Indiana, the city’s proximity to that state. Not to mention Chicago isn’t nearly as high as they think it is in murder rate. In fact, a lot of red state cities have much higher rates.
bismarcktribune.com

Gary, Indiana was a major gang and drug center unto itself, a tradition that went back to the 20’s, when the Chicago mob did not want to touch anything across state lines. But basically all the hard stuff coming from the Gulf came up I-65 through Gary into Chicago.

When I lived there in the 70’s, we had upwards of 50 murders per year, for a population of 150,000.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 21, 2018 • 10:03:15am

re: #452 The Vicious Babushka

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We know that will not be shown on 19th Century FAUX!

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 21, 2018 • 10:11:55am
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Alephnaught  Jan 21, 2018 • 10:12:49am

re: #80 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

This kind of fundy-survivalist-gun humper crap was already going full blast in the 70s though it stayed below the media horizon until the 90s. My first wife’s involvement with Fundy loons played a big part in the disintegration of marriage. One couple she knew thought it was “unnatural” for someone from my impoverished background to be so “intellectual” and articulate. (It doesn’t take much to over-awe, and frighten, these rubes). They suggested that it was demonic possession.

Blimey, goodness knows how such people would react to your average working class Glaswegian, (Glaswegians are generally garallous by default) never mind someone like myself, who has been through higher education (like a lot of people over here) and doesn’t have a problem with going to the opera or plays and stuff. (It’s still pretty cheap over here.)

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 21, 2018 • 10:12:51am
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Targetpractice  Jan 21, 2018 • 10:13:42am

The thing that really gets me is that the GOP could have put themselves in a far better position with a simple move: Put forward a “clean” CR. No gimmicky addition of CHIP reauthorization in a cynical attempt at seizing the “moral high ground,” just put forward a bill that does nothing but fund the government for 30 days. Then they would have had a defensible position, arguing that they’re trying to keep the government open while the DNC is trying to involve something that had nothing to do with government funding.

But no, they thought they’d be clever with an “Us vs Them” narrative and are instead showing they couldn’t organize an orgy in a brothel.

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BeachDem  Jan 21, 2018 • 10:17:59am

re: #445 The Vicious Babushka

OH LOOK WHAT FUX NOISE IS PROMOTING:

Episode 1 entitled “Up Crooked Creek”—gah.

The good news is it premieres tonight against the Eagles/Vikings playoff game.
The bad news is they’ll probably re-run it a gazillion times.

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makeitstop  Jan 21, 2018 • 10:18:25am

re: #461 Targetpractice

they couldn’t organize an orgy in a brothel.

Alternately - they’d screw up a one-car funeral.

How even the dumbest voter cannot see their total incompetence at this point is beyond me.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 21, 2018 • 10:18:39am

Wow! Trump’s Drug Czar was just too lazy to show up at his previous job…and he was let go…

washingtonpost.com

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2018 • 10:18:42am

re: #408 The Major

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She’s such re: #460 The Vicious Babushka

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Yeah but they’re regular blue collar schmos.

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Targetpractice  Jan 21, 2018 • 10:19:21am

re: #462 BeachDem

Episode 1 entitled “Up Crooked Creek”—gah.

The good news is it premieres tonight against the Eagles/Vikings playoff game.
The bad news is they’ll probably re-run it a gazillion times.

Look forward to an “encore” the week before the midterms.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2018 • 10:19:36am

re: #463 makeitstop

Alternately - they’d screw up a one-car funeral.

How even the dumbest voter cannot see their total incompetence at this point is beyond me.

When you define yourself as just hating libs, you overlook that.

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ObserverArt  Jan 21, 2018 • 10:21:09am

re: #454 Jay C

Which is why I think that ad was dropped without anyone “higher-up” being apprised -or even aware of it (still less consulted or in a position to control its release). I’m thinking (hoping, really) that this will have the usual effect Trumpian propaganda BS does: i.e. change the conversation from the particulars of legislative deal- making to a more simplistic “Republicans are calling Democrats murderers” narrative.
Wonder who (if anyone) in the WH/campaign knew about this ad?

Pretty hard to deny anyone in Trump’s White House not knowing about the ad since it was released by Donald J. Trump for President…his own campaign.

Trump wants to deal and screw over at the same time. And he expects it all to make him look good.

I am no fan of Peggy Noonan, but she was correct when she said on MTP today: Trump is a New York Real Estate dealer, not a political one and he has no feel for the difference.

By the way, it seems a lot of the major shows today and other media are really making a point of the “Democrats are Complicit” commercial is dumb politically at this time.

But this is Trump. He is just a real estate dealer and a bad one at that. The fact this country elected this hoax is one of this county’s low points in history. It’s both embarrassing and shameful. But too many of our citizens can’t be ashamed or embarrassed.

It would take some actual knowledge to have such feelings. I guess it comes down to being too stupid to care.

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ObserverArt  Jan 21, 2018 • 10:22:26am

re: #458 The Vicious Babushka

Michael De Dora

@mdedora
Five days ago, @ICEgov agents arrested Michigan doctor Lukasz Niec at his house. He’s 43 years old, immigrated to the U.S. from Poland when he was 3, holds a permanent green card, is married with a daughter and step-daughter, and has no family in Poland. bit.ly

12:47 PM - Jan 21, 2018
2 2 Replies 86 86 Retweets 75 75 likes

That’s going to get anymouse revved up.

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Targetpractice  Jan 21, 2018 • 10:25:32am

re: #460 The Vicious Babushka

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I’m reminded of the laughable failure that was “Fyre Festival” or more specifically the social media reaction all the rich people who’d been conned into buying tickets only to find out they’d been scammed.

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Alephnaught  Jan 21, 2018 • 10:26:17am

re: #145 Charles Johnson

I remember a couple of years back when I posted a link on Twitter to a photo essay on a Krocodil house in Russia, someone replied to it along the lines of: “Is it wrong of me to think the photos are beautiful?”, which, technically, they were, if one were to completely disregard the subject matter.

I replied along the lines of: “Well- I know what you mean, but the answer to your question is probably: yes”.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2018 • 10:26:27am

re: #469 ObserverArt

That’s going to get anymouse revved up.

Probably a communist.// Seriously this is sick.

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Targetpractice  Jan 21, 2018 • 10:27:12am

re: #458 The Vicious Babushka

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Another “dangerous criminal alien,” no doubt.

////////

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sagehen  Jan 21, 2018 • 10:27:39am

re: #434 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I remember going to see the original film when it came out in 1978, was unimpressed (too Star Wars-like without being an improvement on it) and never watched the original series. Is the new one of interest to a moderate-level sci-fi fan?

The Battlestar Galactica reboot is miles better than the original… but the final season is kind of crap and the ending totally unsatisfying.

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Jay C  Jan 21, 2018 • 10:28:34am

re: #469 ObserverArt

Michael De Dora

@mdedora
Five days ago, @ICEgov agents arrested Michigan doctor Lukasz Niec at his house. He’s 43 years old, immigrated to the U.S. from Poland when he was 3, holds a permanent green card, is married with a daughter and step-daughter, and has no family in Poland. bit.ly

According to the linked article, Dr. Niec’s arrest is related to his heinous criminal record:

Niec’s sister believes the ICE arrest stemmed from a misdemeanor arrest for property damage that he pled guilty to in 1992 at the age of 17.

At the time, the family says he wasn’t notified it could be used in a deportation

“Now, they’re using this expunged case that’s stamped non-public record against him,” Niec-Villaire said.

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ObserverArt  Jan 21, 2018 • 10:29:51am

In case some might not have seen the ad in question today on all the political shows.

Complicit

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ObserverArt  Jan 21, 2018 • 10:33:06am

re: #475 Jay C

According to the linked article, Dr. Niec’s arrest is related to his heinous criminal record:

And they have the guts to call Democrats out for allowing ‘pure evil’ in that commercial, yet they are actually carrying out evil deeds with ICE.

It sure is going to be one very long hot summer this year. This climate is getting unsustainable and it is going to boil over.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 21, 2018 • 10:33:30am

re: #468 ObserverArt

Art, it comes down to what LBJ said over 50 years ago.

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Targetpractice  Jan 21, 2018 • 10:35:01am

“We cannot support illegal immigration and the DNC are horrible people who are complicit in murder for doing so! But we do support making DACA law and allowing Dreamers to stay in this country.”

Yeah, no mixed messages there.//////

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Jay C  Jan 21, 2018 • 10:42:20am

re: #468 ObserverArt

Pretty hard to deny anyone in Trump’s White House not knowing about the ad since it was released by Donald J. Trump for President…his own campaign.

Trump wants to deal and screw over at the same time. And he expects it all to make him look good.

I agree about the second part, but I think it will prove all too easy for the WH to disclaim any knowledge of the “complicit” ad: just blame out-of-the-public-eye campaign operatives, finger some middle-ranking media shlep as the Designated Chump, and fire them with some very public tsk-tsking about the “negative” tone of campaign discourse, and let’s all move on….

Of course, that’s assuming they WANT to disassociate themselves from this vile smear campaign….. facts not in evidence.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 21, 2018 • 10:46:21am

re: #478 Joe Bacon 🌹

LBJ was right.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 21, 2018 • 10:48:24am

Any more info on that “immigration” bus raid in Florida? I really think those posers used custom printed shirts/surplus and aren’t at all law enforcement.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 21, 2018 • 10:49:11am

re: #481 PhillyPretzel

LBJ was right.

Philly it gets depressing at work when white people on Supplemental Security Income Disability payments call us and scream about how all colored people are goofing off on welfare and food stamps…

484
Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 21, 2018 • 10:49:36am

re: #474 sagehen

The Battlestar Galactica reboot is miles better than the original… but the final season is kind of crap and the ending totally unsatisfying.

It’s what happens when you begin a 5 year story arc with no idea where the other end is.

485
Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 21, 2018 • 10:51:00am

re: #484 Blind Frog Belly White

OTOH, it did yield great lines, like this one.

YouTube

486
Skip Intro  Jan 21, 2018 • 10:51:55am

re: #464 Joe Bacon 🌹

Wow! Trump’s Drug Czar was just too lazy to show up at his previous job…and he was let go…

washingtonpost.com

The only requirement for a job with trump is the willingness to drop to your knees and crawl over broken glass to kiss his ass at a moments notice.

487
Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 21, 2018 • 10:52:59am

re: #486 Skip Intro

The only requirement for a job with trump is the willingness to drop to your knees and crawl over broken glass to kiss his ass at a moments notice.

And be grateful that you’re only kissing his ass…

488
JordanRules  Jan 21, 2018 • 10:53:24am
489
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 21, 2018 • 10:53:39am

re: #485 Blind Frog Belly White

OTOH, it did yield great lines, like this one.

[Embedded content]

Video

and yo’ granny was a hoe!

490
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 21, 2018 • 10:54:41am

re: #488 JordanRules

Michigan State alumna @jemelehill, on her alma mater’s enabling of sexual abuser Larry Nassar: “When protecting institutions, friendships, business partnerships and image become more important than protecting vulnerable people, you get what you deserve.”

In any hierarchy where power flows from the top, the priority is protecting the reputation of the higher-ups and insulating them from their bad decisions..

491
Dave In Austin  Jan 21, 2018 • 10:57:40am

re: #485 Blind Frog Belly White

OTOH, it did yield great lines, like this one.

[Embedded content]

I about rolled off the couch on that one…

492
JordanRules  Jan 21, 2018 • 10:58:16am
493
JordanRules  Jan 21, 2018 • 11:00:48am

re: #490 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Well in this story it appears everybody was protected, at every level in all the institutions involved, except the young girls.

494
Skip Intro  Jan 21, 2018 • 11:00:51am

Every goddamn day.

And when that stops working just don’t count the votes from Senators who don’t attend the daily worship Trump services. Trump will get this all sorted out real soon now.

495
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 21, 2018 • 11:01:10am

re: #492 JordanRules

Arab tweeps mostly joking + puzzled about US #Shutdown . One compares Congress to Iraqi Parliament, another says Trump “finally finished” US Government. Looks bad from abroad…

But as soon as they realize that the Democrats are the ones responsible for it, they will come to understand…

496
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 21, 2018 • 11:01:38am

re: #493 JordanRules

Well in this story it appears everybody was protected, at every level in all the institutions involved, except the young girls.

everyone about the level of victim

497
dangerman  Jan 21, 2018 • 11:04:53am

re: #450 HappyWarrior

The side that pushed non stop ACA repeals while its signer was in office has no room to talk about obstruction. As for them having opposed illegal immigration in the past. That much is true, the difference is a thing callled nuance that stupid sob Murdoch never figured out, we’re supporting DREAMers who came here as children. People who know other home than the US. There was a DREAMer at the Cleveland march yesterday, she came here from Mexico when she was younger than my niece is now, her English is unaccented, etc. The DREAMers are Americans.

Gorsuch
not another word needs to be said

498
Belafon  Jan 21, 2018 • 11:06:21am

re: #495 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

But as soon as they realize that the Democrats are the ones responsible for it, they will come to understand…

Do you think all those foreigners will vote against Democrats?

499
JordanRules  Jan 21, 2018 • 11:06:45am
500
meteor  Jan 21, 2018 • 11:07:25am

re: #499 JordanRules

True.

501
HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2018 • 11:07:43am

re: #497 dangerman

Gorsuch
not another word needs to be said

Yep.

502
PhillyPretzel  Jan 21, 2018 • 11:08:17am

re: #499 JordanRules

Thank you Gov Cuomo. Now let’s hope a few more follow him.

503
Dave In Austin  Jan 21, 2018 • 11:08:22am
504
HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2018 • 11:11:24am

re: #503 Dave In Austin

Mercy!! I like it!

[Embedded content]

Snap.

505
Citizen K  Jan 21, 2018 • 11:18:04am

re: #475 Jay C

According to the linked article, Dr. Niec’s arrest is related to his heinous criminal record:

I want to say I’m surprised at this, but for some reason, it seems Poles are the sole Caucasian ethnicity that seems to remain en vogue far as discrimination, especially in Western Europe (particularly in the aftermath of Brexit).

Either way, ICE seems to have taken it into their hands to demand purity. Hope none of you have jaywalking infractions or unpaid parking tickets. You might suddenly find that your birth certificate is invalid and those tickets are grounds for deportation….

506
The Vicious Babushka  Jan 21, 2018 • 11:22:31am

Look at this lying scumbag

507
Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 21, 2018 • 11:23:02am

508
PhillyPretzel  Jan 21, 2018 • 11:24:12am

re: #507 Eclectic Cyborg

The hallmark of a con-man.

509
HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2018 • 11:24:13am

re: #506 The Vicious Babushka

Look at this lying scumbag

[Embedded content]

Remember when FNC complained every time Obama brought up Bush. And yeah this is bs and that prick Mulvaney knows it.

510
MsJ  Jan 21, 2018 • 11:26:15am

How the hell did I wind up on a Neiman Marcus mailing list? Shitty dresses for $2000? Yeah. That’s gonna happen. 🙄

511
Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 21, 2018 • 11:26:22am

re: #508 PhillyPretzel

The hallmark of a con-man.

I have been amazed, though, how many people fall completely for it, to the point of being unable to see what is crystal fucking clear to any casual observer.

512
Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 21, 2018 • 11:27:54am

re: #510 MsJ

I’ve ended up one a few odd mailing lists, probably because of various purchases my wife has made with my credit card.

513
The Vicious Babushka  Jan 21, 2018 • 11:28:47am

JFC on a barbed wire tightrope over Mt. Doom, juggling hand grenades

514
PhillyPretzel  Jan 21, 2018 • 11:28:57am

re: #511 Blind Frog Belly White

As least when Robert Redford and Paul Newman did it in The Sting it was enjoyable to watch. This is a nightmare.

515
HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2018 • 11:29:25am

re: #513 The Vicious Babushka

JFC on a barbed wire tightrope over Mt. Doom, juggling hand grenades

[Embedded content]

Such a lying pos.

516
Citizen K  Jan 21, 2018 • 11:29:36am

re: #513 The Vicious Babushka

JFC on a barbed wire tightrope over Mt. Doom, juggling hand grenades

[Embedded content]

The projection is overwhelming. The dude is literally denying everything Trump himself has said before.

517
Skip Intro  Jan 21, 2018 • 11:31:41am

Forget Russia. Fox is the biggest danger this country faces.

518
Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 21, 2018 • 11:31:57am

Mick Mulvaney is only *slightly* less of an asshole than Trump.

519
dangerman  Jan 21, 2018 • 11:33:28am

re: #511 Blind Frog Belly White

I have been amazed, though, how many people fall completely for it, to the point of being unable to see what is crystal fucking clear to any casual observer.

See the philosopher p.t. barnum

520
retired cynic  Jan 21, 2018 • 11:33:44am

re: #454 Jay C

Which is why I think that ad was dropped without anyone “higher-up” being apprised -or even aware of it (still less consulted or in a position to control its release). I’m thinking (hoping, really) that this will have the usual effect Trumpian propaganda BS does: i.e. change the conversation from the particulars of legislative deal- making to a more simplistic “Republicans are calling Democrats murderers” narrative.
Wonder who (if anyone) in the WH/campaign knew about this ad?

Sounds like Miller.

521
The Vicious Babushka  Jan 21, 2018 • 11:34:08am

A VICTORY LAP. That is what this is about. Not about funding the military or DACA. What lying shits.

522
plansbandc  Jan 21, 2018 • 11:34:35am

Joe has video of Pence lying to the troops about the shutdown…

joemygod.com

523
dangerman  Jan 21, 2018 • 11:36:19am

re: #521 The Vicious Babushka

A VICTORY LAP. That is what this is about. Not about funding the military or DACA. What lying shits.

[Embedded content]

Freudian slip much?

524
Renaissance_Man  Jan 21, 2018 • 11:37:26am

re: #517 Skip Intro

Forget Russia. Fox is the biggest danger this country faces.

I have been saying this for years. The end of the American dream, the death of the Republic, is because FOX is allowed free reign over the American people. The strength of America has always been its citizens, and in less than two decades, the power of mass media turned America’s citizens into one of the most powerful forces for evil in the world today.

525
Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 21, 2018 • 11:39:21am

re: #521 The Vicious Babushka

What victory?

//////

526
Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 21, 2018 • 11:40:31am

re: #517 Skip Intro

Forget Russia. Fox is the biggest danger this country faces.

Fox 10 years ago lying to yahoos about Mass Effect.

FOX NEWS Mass Effect Sex Debate

They’ve only gotten worse since then.

527
HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2018 • 11:42:07am

re: #521 The Vicious Babushka

A VICTORY LAP. That is what this is about. Not about funding the military or DACA. What lying shits.

[Embedded content]

Lol okay Mick.

528
JordanRules  Jan 21, 2018 • 11:43:31am
529
Jay C  Jan 21, 2018 • 11:44:48am

re: #521 The Vicious Babushka

A VICTORY LAP. That is what this is about. Not about funding the military or DACA. What lying shits.

[Embedded content]

Well, “lying shit” as it may be, Mulvaney knows the audience he’s talking to: 1) the Fox-obsessed “base” for whom the political process is just another sort of reality-TV game show, and who can’t/won’t/don’t want to see past the simple-minded “GOOD/BAD-WIN/LOSE” narrative: and 2) the Orange Asshole in the White House: for whom “victories” that he can take credit for are the main (only?) goal worth pursuing.

530
The Vicious Babushka  Jan 21, 2018 • 11:45:44am

MULVANEY LOVES THE SHUTDOWN.

531
PhillyPretzel  Jan 21, 2018 • 11:47:03am

re: #530 The Vicious Babushka

He is a mesuga.

532
Belafon  Jan 21, 2018 • 11:47:08am

re: #530 The Vicious Babushka

MULVANEY LOVES THE SHUTDOWN.

[Embedded content]

Of course he does. He gets to decide who lives and who dies.

On that note, a friend of my oldest son, who joined AmeriCorp, will not be getting paid during the shutdown.

533
JordanRules  Jan 21, 2018 • 11:48:43am
534
JordanRules  Jan 21, 2018 • 11:51:49am
535
Belafon  Jan 21, 2018 • 11:51:53am

re: #533 JordanRules

re: #533 JordanRules

Who are those being videoed and what’s on their signs.

536
HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2018 • 11:52:58am

re: #530 The Vicious Babushka

MULVANEY LOVES THE SHUTDOWN.

[Embedded content]

Idiot.

537
goddamnedfrank  Jan 21, 2018 • 11:53:42am
538
JordanRules  Jan 21, 2018 • 11:54:49am

re: #535 Belafon

Some of the counter protesters. I can’t make out the signs. They were moving pretty quickly.

539
Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 21, 2018 • 11:57:23am

re: #484 Blind Frog Belly White

It’s what happens when you begin a 5 year story arc with no idea where the other end is.

I kinda liked the tie into to Lucy and our (Homo sapiens) common ancestor.

540
Skip Intro  Jan 21, 2018 • 11:58:02am
541
GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 21, 2018 • 11:58:07am

re: #530 The Vicious Babushka

MULVANEY LOVES THE SHUTDOWN.

[Embedded content]

He must have had no friends growing up.

542
JordanRules  Jan 21, 2018 • 12:01:11pm
543
HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2018 • 12:02:16pm

re: #540 Skip Intro

[Embedded content]

Can’t be optimistic at all with Miller being involved.

544
JordanRules  Jan 21, 2018 • 12:02:49pm
545
jaunte  Jan 21, 2018 • 12:04:37pm

Listening to McConnell whining about partisanship this morning was a real treat.

546
Barefoot Grin  Jan 21, 2018 • 12:06:00pm
547
The Vicious Babushka  Jan 21, 2018 • 12:06:23pm
548
PhillyPretzel  Jan 21, 2018 • 12:07:56pm

re: #546 Barefoot Grin

ROFL. That won’t stop them.

549
jaunte  Jan 21, 2018 • 12:10:10pm
550
HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2018 • 12:11:15pm

re: #549 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Pence should answer why McConnell shut down McCaskill’s bill.

551
Anymouse 🌹  Jan 21, 2018 • 12:12:17pm

re: #469 ObserverArt

That’s going to get anymouse revved up.

I’ve already been on blast about this. I also fired off a message to the state Polish Heritage Center here about it.

The tweet above has a couple details wrong, but yeah, they grabbed a doctor who’s had a Green Card for forty years after coming to the USA escaping communist Poland when he was five with his parents. His six-year-old sister is also here in the USA; she is an attorney.

The trumped up charge they grabbed this physician on was a misdemeanour property damage charge of less than $100 when he was a teen. He was placed in a diversion program which was successful. The record was sealed, but apparently that doesn’t apply to ICE. So now four decades later, they are using that charge to deport him.

What I fired out:

woodtv.com
(goes to WOOD, NBC channel 8 in Kalamazoo, with video interview of his family)

A respected Kalamazoo internal medicine physician whose family fled Poland in 1979 when he was five has been seized by ICE on immigration violation. He is being held in the Calhoun County, Michigan jail pending deportation to Poland. He’s had a Green Card for four decades.

His sister was six at the time and also has a Green Card. She has not been seized.

He lives in an upscale portion of Kalamazoo, and was playing with his children by the lake when ICE agents seized him. He does not speak Polish, and has no family there.

Good thing ICE under the GOP is working on deporting all these dangerous criminals like physicians who fled communism as children. His hospital describes him as a model internal medicine physician.

ICE won’t speak of his case to the press, as is customary in immigration cases. Immigration law experts say he might get a bond hearing in February, which is unlikely to be granted, and wrangling his case could take years.

552
HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2018 • 12:13:18pm

Hiding behind the same military his boss trashed repeatedly two years ago.

553
Patricia Kayden  Jan 21, 2018 • 12:14:45pm

re: #551 Anymouse 🌹

Wonder why he didn’t get his citizenship after being here so long. Sad that they are deporting him though.

554
retired cynic  Jan 21, 2018 • 12:15:18pm

re: #553 Patricia Kayden

Wonder why he didn’t get his citizenship after being here so long. Sad that they are deporting him though.

I bet he’s asking himself that!

555
HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2018 • 12:16:18pm

re: #553 Patricia Kayden

Wonder why he didn’t get his citizenship after being here so long. Sad that they are deporting him though.

Not sure. Sad story tho.

556
Anymouse 🌹  Jan 21, 2018 • 12:16:52pm

re: #553 Patricia Kayden

Wonder why he didn’t get his citizenship after being here so long. Sad that they are deporting him though.

Didn’t get in the right line or some other complaint from conservatives.

Fleeing communism would get you granted political asylum back then … it could be that. The television article from Kalamazoo doesn’t say why.

557
Patricia Kayden  Jan 21, 2018 • 12:17:53pm

re: #554 retired cynic

I have someone in my family who has been here since the early 80s who is still not a citizen. I came here in the 90s and raced to get my citizenship so I don’t understand folks who don’t do the same. But I understand that there may be circumstances which cause delays in acquiring citizenship.

558
Patricia Kayden  Jan 21, 2018 • 12:19:19pm

re: #555 HappyWarrior

Very sad. These deportations aren’t keeping my anyone safe. They’re cruel and unnecessary.

559
PhillyPretzel  Jan 21, 2018 • 12:19:36pm

re: #557 Patricia Kayden

They are afraid of being called up to jury duty or something similar. Ignorance.

560
Anymouse 🌹  Jan 21, 2018 • 12:19:57pm

re: #557 Patricia Kayden

I have someone in my family who has been here since the early 80s who is still not a citizen. I came here in the 90s and raced to get my citizenship so I don’t understand folks who don’t do the same. But I understand that there may be circumstances which cause delays in acquiring citizenship.

My sister-in-law who fled the Soviet Union and now lives in Texas, had a Green Card for years while she wrangled the immigration system, had to go to Moscow twice (after the fall of the Soviet Union) to get paperwork because Immigration twice lost her paperwork, and only obtained her citizenship in 2012.

561
HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2018 • 12:20:03pm

re: #558 Patricia Kayden

Very sad. These deportations aren’t keeping my anyone safe. They’re cruel and unnecessary.

My thoughts exactly.

562
Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 21, 2018 • 12:20:17pm

re: #558 Patricia Kayden

Very sad. These deportations aren’t keeping my anyone safe. They’re cruel and unnecessary.

But the RepubliKKKlan base loves it!

563
JordanRules  Jan 21, 2018 • 12:20:38pm

That 3rd photo tho! Love!

564
HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2018 • 12:21:03pm

I wish naturalization was an easier process. I have my mom’s grandfathers’ records.

565
Renaissance_Man  Jan 21, 2018 • 12:22:59pm

re: #559 PhillyPretzel

They are afraid of being called up to jury duty or something similar. Ignorance.

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566
dangerman  Jan 21, 2018 • 12:23:12pm

re: #553 Patricia Kayden

Wonder why he didn’t get his citizenship after being here so long. Sad that they are deporting him though.

c’mon the right should love this guy - he’s the perfect taxation without representation resident
he has a good job - way above the poverty line
pays federal, state, local, property and payroll taxes
AND he cant vote in federal elections

what’s not to love /////—->/

567
PhillyPretzel  Jan 21, 2018 • 12:25:34pm

re: #565 Renaissance_Man

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568
dangerman  Jan 21, 2018 • 12:26:16pm

re: #558 Patricia Kayden

Very sad. These deportations aren’t keeping my anyone safe. They’re cruel and unnecessary.

of course not
they’re the wrong targets but they’re the lowest hanging fruit

i hope, because i have no basis to believe, that the continued focus and optics of these kinds of detentions some way some how will eventually backfire on them big time

569
Anymouse 🌹  Jan 21, 2018 • 12:26:51pm

It’s why when reactionaries like Steve King want to deport the grandchildren of undocumented immigrants I get concerned, as that’s a crosshair right on my forehead.

If King had his way, we’d have an updated version of the 1924 Immigration Act. With Trump trying to ban people from “shithole” countries (he included Eastern Europe in that except of course his wife), I’m not feeling so secure. King isn’t a big fan of Eastern Europeans either.

Poland is a nice country, but I don’t speak Polish either.

570
Anymouse 🌹  Jan 21, 2018 • 12:28:18pm

re: #566 dangerman

c’mon the right should love this guy - he’s the perfect taxation without representation resident
he has a good job - way above the poverty line
pays federal, state, local, property and payroll taxes
AND he cant vote in federal elections

what’s not to love /////—->/

He’s taking a job that Americans could have. Wait, we have a shortage of physicians in the USA.

571
dangerman  Jan 21, 2018 • 12:30:34pm

re: #570 Anymouse 🌹

He’s taking a job that Americans could have. Wait, we have a shortage of physicians in the USA.

right - show me the line of unemployed (american) doctors who just cant find a job cause everything’s taken

unfortunately none of any of this is about ‘logic’

572
Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 21, 2018 • 12:40:35pm

re: #547 The Vicious Babushka

573
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 21, 2018 • 12:49:12pm

re: #535 Belafon

Who are those being videoed and what’s on their signs.

pro-lifers and white supremacists

574
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 21, 2018 • 1:26:04pm
575
The Major  Jan 21, 2018 • 6:20:15pm

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Shock Tactics: Why ‘Higher Risk’ Human Targets Get Stunned With Tasers NEW YORK – The maker of the Taser says the electroshock weapon is the safest tool on a police officer’s belt – with a few caveats. In pages of warnings, Axon Enterprise Inc advises police to beware that some ...
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