Tommy Emmanuel and Mark Knopfler Team Up: “You Don’t Want to Get You One of Those”

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“You Don’t Want to Get You One of Those” by Mark Knopfler & Tommy Emmanuel was recorded at British Grove Studios in London, England. It appears on Tommy Emmanuel’s album, Accomplice One, out Jan. 19, 2018.

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jaunte  Jan 22, 2018 • 9:58:27pm

I appreciate all the healing music.

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thecommodore  Jan 22, 2018 • 10:01:46pm

Lumpy is completely off the rails on the text messages and #ReleaseTheMemo.

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Kragar  Jan 22, 2018 • 10:12:27pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 22, 2018 • 10:32:01pm

Well, I’m off to bed. I have an early start tomorrow to Alliance. Then the day after to Cheyenne. Then the day after that to Denver. G’night y’all.

The Lawrence Welk Show closing credits

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Teukka  Jan 22, 2018 • 10:56:04pm

So this came across my feeds…

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 22, 2018 • 11:28:31pm
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Kragar  Jan 23, 2018 • 12:29:34am
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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jan 23, 2018 • 12:36:56am

re: #6 Single-handed sailor

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Tomorrow is Neil Diamond’s 77th birthday.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 23, 2018 • 12:54:51am

re: #8 Kragar

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South Korea is already preparing a WTO complaint over this. I expect Germany and China will join the suit. This is so beyond the pale, arbitrary and capricious that they might even award punitive damages, especially considering the context of Trump pulling us out of the Paris Agreement.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 23, 2018 • 1:42:43am

re: #10 goddamnedfrank

South Korea is already preparing a WTO complaint over this. I expect Germany and China will join the suit. This is so beyond the pale, arbitrary and capricious that they might even award punitive damages, especially considering the context of Trump pulling us out of the Paris Agreement.

I suspect Trump would be more than happy to leave the WTO, so the America can be great again by gouging every other country’s exports to the USA.

He obviously does not understand that making imported goods more expensive to buy does not automatically create the capacity to make those goods domestically. US companies shuttered factories in the States long ago and moved production offshore. They can’t now flick a switch and reopen those plants at his beck and call.

China will be especially pissed, since American consumption of Chinese-made products is a huge boon to China’s economy.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 23, 2018 • 1:43:50am

Another musical great gone.

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Cheechako  Jan 23, 2018 • 1:55:41am

8.0 earthquake in the Gulf of Alaska

8.0 Earthquake

A TSUNAMI WARNING IS NOW IN EFFECT

Very mild shaking here in Juneau

Edit: now 8.2

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wheat-dogg  Jan 23, 2018 • 2:05:42am

I hate fake astronomy photos like this one, trying to reinforce the false idea that the pyramids at Giza have some kind of planetary alignment.

Right now, Mercury, Venus and Saturn are all near the Sun. The first two are barely visible. So, where’s the Sun in this photo? Not only that, the colors of the planets are all wrong, even if the saturation were boosted.

EDIT: Apparently, this photo has been circulating since 2012, if not earlier. blogs.discovermagazine.com

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 23, 2018 • 2:35:55am
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Dr Lizardo  Jan 23, 2018 • 2:45:46am

re: #15 FormerDirtDart

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Just reading that tsunami sirens are going off in Kodiak, Alaska. That was posted about 15 minutes ago.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 23, 2018 • 2:54:42am

re: #16 Dr Lizardo

Just reading that tsunami sirens are going off in Kodiak, Alaska. That was posted about 15 minutes ago.

I would hope so. Quake epicenter was ~175 SE of Kodiak. Basically the closet collection of humans to it.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 23, 2018 • 3:14:12am
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FormerDirtDart  Jan 23, 2018 • 3:14:32am
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wheat-dogg  Jan 23, 2018 • 3:30:33am

Hoo boy!

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wheat-dogg  Jan 23, 2018 • 3:32:56am
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BigPapa  Jan 23, 2018 • 3:36:51am

PacHI Tsunami Center just cancelled their watch. Baffling.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 23, 2018 • 3:46:34am

I’m beginning to wonder if this account is like that one that kept tweeting about shooters rampaging across the Air Force Academy a while back
Kind of hard for both of these to be correct
Tweet

and Retweet

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 23, 2018 • 3:47:36am
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FormerDirtDart  Jan 23, 2018 • 3:48:28am

some groggy folks likely getting rousted out of bed right now

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 23, 2018 • 3:49:20am

it is awake and still a moron.
(earthquake? what earthquake…)

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 23, 2018 • 3:57:25am

I just woke my sister up, she lives outside Portland. She’s on high ground, but suggested she might want to collect up some water. You never know what systems might go down.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 23, 2018 • 3:59:46am

re: #27 FormerDirtDart

I just woke my sister up, she lives outside Portland. She’s on high ground, but suggested she might want to collect up some water. You never know what systems might go down.

Having lived in the Pacific NW, my nightmare was always a Cascadia subduction zone megathrust quake, like the one that hit back in 1700.

en.wikipedia.org

I can’t even imagine the sheer level of devastation an earthquake like that would cause now.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 23, 2018 • 4:04:24am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 23, 2018 • 4:06:33am

jeebus

(thinking that Melania refusing to go to Davos with him has hit a nerve; especially given it’s their 13th wedding anniversary…)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 23, 2018 • 4:07:47am
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BigPapa  Jan 23, 2018 • 4:08:38am

5 months @ 10k texts = 333 texts every single day.

He cannot talk without lying.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 23, 2018 • 4:10:29am

George Takei and the proper pronunciation of Guacamole and Tsunami.

Howard Stern Show - George Tekei says Guacamole

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 23, 2018 • 4:11:49am

re: #28 Dr Lizardo

Having lived in the Pacific NW, my nightmare was always a Cascadia subduction zone megathrust quake, like the one that hit back in 1700.

en.wikipedia.org

I can’t even imagine the sheer level of devastation an earthquake like that would cause now.

Yeah, the only reason I called her was because I’ve seen all that Tsunami/Earthquake disaster stuff in the Pacific NW on the Discovery channel

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 23, 2018 • 4:16:13am
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FormerDirtDart  Jan 23, 2018 • 4:17:54am
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sagehen  Jan 23, 2018 • 4:22:07am

cc.com

Patriots v. Eagles, the most American-sounding game ever.

cc.com

Eagles v. Patriots, like fireworks on the 4th of July

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 23, 2018 • 4:23:11am
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wheat-dogg  Jan 23, 2018 • 4:24:06am

Swell, we’ll have another disaster zone Trump can ignore.

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sagehen  Jan 23, 2018 • 4:24:46am

re: #30 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus

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(thinking that Melania refusing to go to Davos with him has hit a nerve; especially given it’s their 13th wedding anniversary…)

Lena Horne Stormy Weather

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 23, 2018 • 4:26:40am

re: #39 wheat-dogg

Swell, we’ll have another disaster zone Trump can ignore.

this one has white people living there, red-state white people

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 23, 2018 • 4:27:02am
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FormerDirtDart  Jan 23, 2018 • 4:27:21am
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FormerDirtDart  Jan 23, 2018 • 4:28:48am

Ring of Fire been a rumbling…

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 23, 2018 • 4:29:49am
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FormerDirtDart  Jan 23, 2018 • 4:29:58am
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wheat-dogg  Jan 23, 2018 • 4:34:35am

re: #41 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

this one has white people living there, red-state white people

As if he cares about anyone not rich, or not him.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 23, 2018 • 4:35:46am

re: #44 FormerDirtDart

Ring of Fire been a rumbling…

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Indonesia was my second choice for this winter holiday trip. I picked Vietnam as first choice.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2018 • 4:37:49am

re: #48 wheat-dogg

Indonesia was my second choice for this winter holiday trip. I picked Vietnam as first choice.

Haven’t heard anything but good things about Vietnam. It’s a credit to the Vietnamese people that they’re friendly to American tourists. Vietnam is a great example of why Obama’s Cuba policy had it right.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2018 • 4:39:25am

re: #46 FormerDirtDart

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I saw Representative Connolly yesterday morning and there’s so much stuff that Trump has done that hasn’t even gotten so much as a hearing. The GOP are complicit.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 23, 2018 • 4:40:35am

re: #49 HappyWarrior

Haven’t heard anything but good things about Vietnam. It’s a credit to the Vietnamese people that they’re friendly to American tourists. Vietnam is a great example of why Obama’s Cuba policy had it right.

I have also heard the same; now that Thailand is no longer the secret tourist destination, Vietnam is what Thailand was 20 years ago.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 23, 2018 • 4:42:40am

re: #50 HappyWarrior

I saw Representative Connolly yesterday morning and there’s so much stuff that Trump has done that hasn’t even gotten so much as a hearing. The GOP are complicit.

There is no need for a Mueller investigation: there are enough blatant and egregious examples of violations of the emoluments clause, conflict of interest and obstruction of justice that they could initiate proceedings at any time if the will were there.

Mueller is trying to present a case so clear-cut that they simply cannot ignore it, which is why they are going out of their way to discredit him and the entire FBI well in advance.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 23, 2018 • 4:42:55am

I have a dumb question. On the associated article, are like 90% of the commentators bots? They all seem to have a pattern, a name and a letter associated with it.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2018 • 4:44:45am

re: #52 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There is no need for a Mueller investigation: there are enough blatant and egregious examples of violations of the emoluments clause, conflict of interest and obstruction of justice that they could initiate proceedings at any time if the will were there.

Mueller is trying to present a case so clear-cut that they simply cannot ignore it, which is why they are going out of their way to discredit him and the entire FBI well in advance.

Right. They have totally ignored the enulments clause violations.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2018 • 4:46:03am

re: #53 Shropshire Slasher

I have a dumb question. On the associated article, are like 90% of the commentators bots? They all seem to have a pattern, a name and a letter associated with it.

I’d look for things like a talking point that is repeated ad nauseum.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 23, 2018 • 4:48:43am

re: #51 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I have also heard the same; now that Thailand is no longer the secret tourist destination, Vietnam is what Thailand was 20 years ago.

Vietnam is also ridiculously cheap for tourists. My Airbnb for the first week costs less than $100 for the whole week. Hotels are more expensive, of course, but still quite affordable.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 23, 2018 • 4:53:20am

re: #52 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There is no need for a Mueller investigation: there are enough blatant and egregious examples of violations of the emoluments clause, conflict of interest and obstruction of justice that they could initiate proceedings at any time if the will were there.

Mueller is trying to present a case so clear-cut that they simply cannot ignore it, which is why they are going out of their way to discredit him and the entire FBI well in advance.

I’m pretty sure Congress knows the jig is up with Trump & Co. It’s just a matter of time before Mueller drops the bomb and makes it impossible for them to ignore what they are all covering up. [I’m speaking of the GOP here, just to be clear.] Likely, some Congress-critters will be implicated as well, and if I were they, I’d be angling for a way out of prosecution. But, people like Nunes and Rohrabacher seem oblivious to their precarious situations.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2018 • 4:58:53am

re: #56 wheat-dogg

Vietnam is also ridiculously cheap for tourists. My Airbnb for the first week costs less than $100 for the whole week. Hotels are more expensive, of course, but still quite affordable.

Nice and yeah inexpensive with good food too. I’m not sure about the museum scene in the cities. I really need to explore Asia or South America one day.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 23, 2018 • 5:00:51am

re: #57 wheat-dogg

I’m pretty sure Congress knows the jig is up with Trump & Co. It’s just a matter of time before Mueller drops the bomb and makes it impossible for them to ignore what they are all covering up. [I’m speaking of the GOP here, just to be clear.] Likely, some Congress-critters will be implicated as well, and if I were they, I’d be angling for a way out of prosecution. But, people like Nunes and Rohrabacher seem oblivious to their precarious situations.

They are convinced that they can bluff and bluster their way out of it. After all, it has worked just fine for them to date

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wheat-dogg  Jan 23, 2018 • 5:07:40am

re: #59 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They are convinced that they can bluff and bluster their way out of it. After all, it has worked just fine for them to date

Trump as well. He’s never been in a position where there might be unavoidable, unpleasant consequences for him. Reading the Wolff book, it’s clear that Trump assumed once he became president, he’d automatically become popular and unassailable. He gets very angry when it’s clear he is neither very popular nor all-powerful, and Wolff describes the lengths the staff goes through to keep Hair Furor from going ballistic on a daily basis.

It seems they have him convinced that the Mueller thing is merely an inconvenience, no big deal, and he goes along with it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 23, 2018 • 5:09:24am

re: #60 wheat-dogg

It seems they have him convinced that the Mueller thing is merely an inconvenience, no big deal, and he goes along with it.

They know it is a big deal and are doing everything they can to undermine or discredit his findings.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 23, 2018 • 5:10:44am

re: #61 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They know it is a big deal and are doing everything they can to undermine or discredit his findings.

Well, yes, but I gather they are shielding Trump from the likelihood he could be removed from office, or at least implicated.

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jeffreyw  Jan 23, 2018 • 5:12:30am

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Good morning!

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MsJ  Jan 23, 2018 • 5:28:59am

My god. I just watched the rerun of yesterday’s Daily Show and watching these senators crow about “bipartisan agreement to fund the government” and how proud they are…for funding it for THREE weeks.

Elected officials…that is absolutely nothing to crow about. Epic fucking failure.

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darthstar  Jan 23, 2018 • 5:35:36am
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Weaselone  Jan 23, 2018 • 5:35:47am

re: #64 MsJ

As Democrats we don’t want it funded for longer until DACA is resolved, hopefully in everyone’s favor.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 23, 2018 • 5:41:58am

Well, I have to go to Alliance in a few minutes so I thought I’d check in first.

So it appears someone tried to break the Pacific Ocean in Indonesia and Alaska.

I hope everyone is okay there … why is it that people have to jump on Twitter and be the first to spread fear? One single bouy shows a marked increase in height, and I read around that there were as high as 100 metre tsunamis.

(Any number of things can cause a single bouy to go up 33 feet in an earthquake … that’s why NOAA operates more than one bouy.)

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MsJ  Jan 23, 2018 • 5:47:59am

re: #66 Weaselone

As Democrats we don’t want it funded for longer until DACA is resolved, hopefully in everyone’s favor.

I get that. But to be on television talking the way they were was completely abysmal. I understand what happened and why, but this is no way to run a country. It’s completely abysmal. Completely. There is not one thing to be proud of about this.

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Teukka  Jan 23, 2018 • 5:48:15am

re: #67 Anymouse 🌹

Well, I have to go to Alliance in a few minutes so I thought I’d check in first.

So it appears someone tried to break the Pacific Ocean in Indonesia and Alaska.

I hope everyone is okay there … why is it that people have to jump on Twitter and be the first to spread fear? One single bouy shows a marked increase in height, and I read around that there were as high as 100 metre tsunamis.

(Any number of things can cause a single bouy to go up 33 feet in an earthquake … that’s why NOAA operates more than one bouy.)

Yeah, a single bouy is not necessarily something one should get a wedgie over, it could simply be something like bottom topology or just the right angle wrt. the epicenter.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 23, 2018 • 5:51:58am

moron

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Weaselone  Jan 23, 2018 • 5:52:05am

re: #68 MsJ

Nope, but this was the path enough Americans chose during the last election. We’re stuck with it for now.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 23, 2018 • 5:53:34am

re: #71 Weaselone

Nope, but this was the path enough Americans chose during the last election. We’re stuck with it for now.

Yup, a minority of the voters and a huge chunk of “both parties are just the same so I’ll vote third party or not vote.”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 23, 2018 • 5:54:27am

re: #71 Weaselone

Nope, but this was the path enough Americans chose during the last election. We’re stuck with it for now.

This is the #1 flaw in the Constitution. In almost every other country with a Parliamentary system if the Government can’t pass a budget it falls and either a new Government is formed or snap elections are held.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 23, 2018 • 5:55:13am
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darthstar  Jan 23, 2018 • 5:56:55am

re: #70 Backwoods_Sleuth

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moron

280 characters is too much for him to stay on topic.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 23, 2018 • 5:57:24am
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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 23, 2018 • 5:58:01am

Well, I’m out to Alliance. I’m gonna brave seventy miles of snowy roads … at least the instructor is okay after wrecking his car on the way here from Lincoln.

Catch y’all later. I get to spend the day learning about cross-connexions in water supplies.

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darthstar  Jan 23, 2018 • 5:58:05am

re: #74 Backwoods_Sleuth

She is the most vile woman ever.

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MsJ  Jan 23, 2018 • 5:58:27am

re: #74 Backwoods_Sleuth

Reporter: There are a lot of Dreamers in this country who are living on pins and needles, not knowing what their fate is…What is this White House’s message to that population?

Press Secretary: I think that they should storm Capitol Hill and protest there

Yes, please storm Capitol Hill so we can arrest and deport you.

Fuck you, Huckabee, you lying sack of supposedly religious feces.

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Bubblehead II  Jan 23, 2018 • 6:01:36am

re: #70 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 23, 2018 • 6:03:55am

Hours after a humanitarian group released videos showing border patrol agents kicking over water bottles left for migrants in the Arizona desert, a volunteer for the organization was arrested and charged with harboring undocumented immigrants.

Scott Daniel Warren, 35, a volunteer with the group No More Deaths, faces a federal charge of harboring two people in the country illegally.

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darthstar  Jan 23, 2018 • 6:08:12am

You don’t need to be Pythagoras to know the hypotenuse from the base of his tie to the front of his toes is fucking significant.

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Sea Mexican!  Jan 23, 2018 • 6:10:55am

Fake news cries are no longer funny.

Not that they were funny to start with.

cbs46.com

A Michigan man was arrested after an FBI investigation, accused of threatening to travel to Atlanta to commit mass murder at CNN headquarters.

According to federal court documents, 19 year-old Brandon Griesemer made 22 calls to CNN about a week ago.

It began with claims of “fake news” and ended with threats of violence.

Griesemer told a CNN operator, among other things, “Fake news. I’m coming to gun you all down.”

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 23, 2018 • 6:18:47am

So you do you think Trump has been banging in the Oval Office: Hope Hicks, Nikki Haley, or both of them? I’m guessing both, though probably not at the same time.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 23, 2018 • 6:18:56am
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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 23, 2018 • 6:21:41am

re: #84 Big Beautiful Door

So you do you think Trump has been banging in the Oval Office: Hope Hicks, Nikki Haley, or both of them? I’m guessing both, though probably not at the same time.

All he should be banging is his head on the desk.

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darthstar  Jan 23, 2018 • 6:23:50am

re: #84 Big Beautiful Door

So you do you think Trump has been banging in the Oval Office: Hope Hicks, Nikki Haley, or both of them? I’m guessing both, though probably not at the same time.

Trump doesn’t ‘bang’ anyone…hasn’t probably for years. Wouldn’t be surprised if Barron was the product ‘donated’ sperm.

As for WH romance…my guess is Miller and Huckabee…they’re both so vile they have to be fucking each other.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 23, 2018 • 6:24:11am

re: #84 Big Beautiful Door

So you do you think Trump has been banging in the Oval Office: Hope Hicks, Nikki Haley, or both of them? I’m guessing both, though probably not at the same time.

He’s been screwing the country 24/7…

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 23, 2018 • 6:24:31am

So maybe it’s a tad early to leave this for Teleski…
But imagine being out for a nice artic drive, just you and your pals in a few trucks. Suddenly a nuclear powered icebreaker just up and cuts you off. Rude huh?

thedrive.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 23, 2018 • 6:27:00am

uh oh…Kelly’s in trouble…
;)

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 23, 2018 • 6:28:56am

re: #88 Joe Bacon 🌹

He’s been screwing the country 24/7…

We have a winner!

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 23, 2018 • 6:29:13am

re: #81 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Oh, his name is Scott. Jesus was the first name that came to mind.

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darthstar  Jan 23, 2018 • 6:32:08am

re: #90 Backwoods_Sleuth

uh oh…Kelly’s in trouble…
;)

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dangerman  Jan 23, 2018 • 6:32:17am

re: #46 FormerDirtDart

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“We haven’t made any actual profits

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darthstar  Jan 23, 2018 • 6:33:18am

re: #94 dangerman

“We haven’t made any actual profits

He wasn’t going to agree to revenue.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 23, 2018 • 6:35:58am

Having read Fire and Fury, I’m convinced that all the quotes from Bannon are real, and obviously Trump and the Mercers think so as well. Wolff has done the nation a great service in deep-sixing his career.

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Belafon  Jan 23, 2018 • 6:38:03am

re: #92 Eventual Carrion

Oh, his name is Scott. Jesus was the first name that came to mind.

Jesus helping those across the border didn’t fare too well in American Gods.

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dangerman  Jan 23, 2018 • 6:38:08am

re: #63 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

This morning we had the usual Cardinals
A woodpecker ..pixelated I think (actually red bellied)
Four spot breasted orioles
a slew of red winged black birds
And the usual suspects-grackles, doves, jays etc

No pics though it really happened

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darthstar  Jan 23, 2018 • 6:38:19am

Anyone know how many Democrats have announced boycotts of the SOTU? I’ll bet Republicans are planning to fill their seats with aides. They should just not show up and explain why after so Trump doesn’t get Standing Os from the Democrat side of the aisle.

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darthstar  Jan 23, 2018 • 6:39:25am

re: #99 darthstar

Anyone know how many Democrats have announced boycotts of the SOTU? I’ll bet Republicans are planning to fill their seats with aides. They should just not show up and explain why after so Trump doesn’t get Standing Os from the Democrat side of the aisle.

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Then again, if 10 or 15 aides stand up, it’ll be fairly obvious on TV that they’re being used as crowd filler.

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dangerman  Jan 23, 2018 • 6:41:27am

re: #65 darthstar

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Hey nbc channel 2
Could we please spell it “buoy”?

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darthstar  Jan 23, 2018 • 6:43:35am

re: #101 dangerman

Hey nbc channel 2
Could we please spell it “buoy”?

Yeah, I had to do a double-take on that to make sure it wasn’t a Fox channel.

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Belafon  Jan 23, 2018 • 6:43:53am

re: #99 darthstar

Anyone know how many Democrats have announced boycotts of the SOTU? I’ll bet Republicans are planning to fill their seats with aides. They should just not show up and explain why after so Trump doesn’t get Standing Os from the Democrat side of the aisle.

If enough Democrats don’t show up, could Republicans overthrow the government live on TV?

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darthstar  Jan 23, 2018 • 6:46:05am

re: #103 Belafon

If enough Democrats don’t show up, could Republicans overthrow the government live on TV?

I just want someone to say they can’t attend because they want to see what happens on NCIS.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 23, 2018 • 7:02:21am

update:

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Renaissance_Man  Jan 23, 2018 • 7:04:21am

re: #105 Backwoods_Sleuth

update:

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 23, 2018 • 7:05:03am

re: #105 Backwoods_Sleuth

update:
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dangerman  Jan 23, 2018 • 7:06:35am

re: #105 Backwoods_Sleuth

update:

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Kisses hugs and all good things

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 23, 2018 • 7:10:41am

re: #105 Backwoods_Sleuth

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nowherenorth2  Jan 23, 2018 • 7:12:01am

re: #105 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 23, 2018 • 7:13:58am

So the guy who called CNN and threatened them sounds like such a fine outstanding Christian Republican…

talkingpointsmemo.com

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 23, 2018 • 7:14:06am

School shooting in Benton Kentucky. One fatality and many wounded; the shooter is in custody.

cnn.com

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Bubblehead II  Jan 23, 2018 • 7:14:37am

re: #105 Backwoods_Sleuth

update:

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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 23, 2018 • 7:15:21am

re: #105 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 23, 2018 • 7:18:47am

further update:

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 23, 2018 • 7:21:52am
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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 23, 2018 • 7:22:37am

re: #115 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Belafon  Jan 23, 2018 • 7:22:44am

Here’s a stat:

A survey of red-state voters conducted last month by the Senate Majority PAC, which aims to elect Democrats to the Senate, showed that 48 percent of respondents would blame them for a shutdown, compared with 39 percent who said the fault would lie with Trump and the Republicans.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 23, 2018 • 7:23:19am

re: #74 Backwoods_Sleuth

Reporter: There are a lot of Dreamers in this country who are living on pins and needles, not knowing what their fate is…What is this White House’s message to that population?

Press Secretary: I think that they should storm Capitol Hill and protest there

It would make it a lot easier to round them up all at once…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 23, 2018 • 7:23:32am

re: #112 Big Beautiful Door

School shooting in Benton Kentucky. One fatality and many wounded; the shooter is in custody.

cnn.com

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 23, 2018 • 7:25:47am

re: #105 Backwoods_Sleuth

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MsJ  Jan 23, 2018 • 7:29:23am

re: #84 Big Beautiful Door

So you do you think Trump has been banging in the Oval Office: Hope Hicks, Nikki Haley, or both of them? I’m guessing both, though probably not at the same time.

I doubt trump is banging anything. I don’t think he’s able. He’s likely getting blow jobs. But whatever.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 23, 2018 • 7:38:07am
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MsJ  Jan 23, 2018 • 7:38:08am

re: #111 Joe Bacon 🌹

So the guy who called CNN and threatened them sounds like such a fine outstanding Christian Republican…

talkingpointsmemo.com

And he apparently lives in his daddy’s basement. (insert appropriate eye roll here)

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2018 • 7:38:42am

re: #124 MsJ

And he apparently lives in his daddy’s basement. (insert appropriate eye roll here)

A real proud boy. //

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wheat-dogg  Jan 23, 2018 • 7:38:50am

Beauregard had to talk to the G-men.

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wheat-dogg  Jan 23, 2018 • 7:39:27am

Aaannnd BWS got there first

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MsJ  Jan 23, 2018 • 7:39:27am

re: #105 Backwoods_Sleuth

You’re both in my thoughts. I can’t seem to get the private to work.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 23, 2018 • 7:39:55am
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MsJ  Jan 23, 2018 • 7:41:13am

re: #118 Belafon

Here’s a stat:

That’s what I was saying yesterday. In trump-strong areas, they will blame dems. Everywhere else, not so much.

How many trump strongholds are left? That’s **my** question.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 23, 2018 • 7:43:59am

re: #122 MsJ

I doubt trump is banging anything. I don’t think he’s able. He’s likely getting blow jobs. But whatever.

That is what the little blue pill is for.

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Targetpractice  Jan 23, 2018 • 7:44:05am

re: #129 Backwoods_Sleuth

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3 guesses where he got the number “50,000” and the first two don’t count.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2018 • 7:44:46am

re: #131 Big Beautiful Door

That is what the little blue pill is for.

Dude.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 23, 2018 • 7:45:31am

This is a revolting development.
Microsoft’s chip security fix is turning some PCs into bricks

Gotta get a couple of these.

Just shut off when not using.
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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2018 • 7:45:57am

Anyhow I caught the clip of McInnes and the Proud Boys at that event Chelsea Manning crashed. I don’t know how the overwhelming majority of other men don’t look at these guys and see them for the losers they are. They talk about women and gay people the way I remember guys would when I was in the fourth grade.

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Belafon  Jan 23, 2018 • 7:48:20am

re: #130 MsJ

That’s what I was saying yesterday. In trump-strong areas, they will blame dems. Everywhere else, not so much.

How many trump strongholds are left? That’s **my** question.

Enough that, in the election this fall, it could be the difference between “Dems control the Senate” and “Republicans make gains in the Senate.”

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Targetpractice  Jan 23, 2018 • 7:49:29am

re: #134 Unshaken Defiance

This is a revolting development.
Microsoft’s chip security fix is turning some PCs into bricks

Gotta get a couple of these.

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OFFS.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 23, 2018 • 7:50:09am

re: #118 Belafon

Here’s a stat:

*smh*

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2018 • 7:51:00am

re: #136 Belafon

Enough that, in the election this fall, it could be the difference between “Dems control the Senate” and “Republicans make gains in the Senate.”

We do have to realize while undestand the nuance about DACA, CHIP, etc, the average voter won’t and would definitely if the shutdown went on fall for the idea that Dems were voting against sick American kids and the troops. I goddamn hate that it has to come to do that but it would have happened and definitely hurt us in the long run.

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Belafon  Jan 23, 2018 • 7:52:49am

re: #134 Unshaken Defiance

This is a revolting development.
Microsoft’s chip security fix is turning some PCs into bricks

Gotta get a couple of these.

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Ubuntu’s security fix was doing that as well. A consequence of pushing some things to hardware is that hardware’s hard to reconfigure.

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MsJ  Jan 23, 2018 • 7:53:38am

re: #136 Belafon

Enough that, in the election this fall, it could be the difference between “Dems control the Senate” and “Republicans make gains in the Senate.”

You think so? Really?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 23, 2018 • 7:54:48am

re: #131 Big Beautiful Door

That is what the little blue pill is for.

For the BJs , maybe. The blue pill is not going to unclog arteries, undo heart disease, make up for a life free of exercise, and restore stamina.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 23, 2018 • 7:55:43am

This is never gonna pass.
But then again, I didn’t think constitutional protections for pigs was ever going to pass

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 23, 2018 • 7:56:19am

So AG Sessions got interviewed by Mueller for “several hours”? Good to hear - this is first time a cabinet member has been interviewed.

Mueller’s working his way up the chain of command.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 23, 2018 • 7:56:51am

re: #134 Unshaken Defiance

This is a revolting development.
Microsoft’s chip security fix is turning some PCs into bricks

Gotta get a couple of these.

[Embedded content]

It only impacts old AMD chips. If AMD gave them incorrect documentation, they can’t be faulted for not testing the fix on old PCs. You can only have so many machines in your test area. They can be faulted for not rolling it out in waves if they released it to everyone at once.

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JordanRules  Jan 23, 2018 • 7:58:05am
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Weaselone  Jan 23, 2018 • 7:58:20am

re: #144 Dr Lizardo

So AG Sessions got interviewed by Mueller for “several hours”? Good to hear - this is first time a cabinet member has been interviewed.

Mueller’s working his way up the chain of command.

It seems like he might entering the beginning of the end of the investigation. It’s hard to believe that he would have interviewed Sessions before he pursued all the other available leads.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 23, 2018 • 7:58:29am

re: #133 HappyWarrior

You aren’t a Matrix fan?

Fine, take the red pill.

//

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:00:04am

re: #146 JordanRules

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I don’t blame him. I get that Jackson may not have been Nathan Bedford Forrest but goddamn it enough of honoring him. We celebrated his birthday the same way we did MLK in Virginia for decades. Every Virginian knows who Stonewall Jackson is. We don’t need to continue the Lost Cause shit into the 21st century.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:00:36am

re: #148 Shropshire Slasher

You aren’t a Matrix fan?

Fine, take the red pill.

//

I’ve never seen the movie in its entirety. TBH found it boring.

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MsJ  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:01:02am

re: #147 Weaselone

It seems like he might entering the beginning of the end of the investigation. It’s hard to believe that he would have interviewed Sessions before he pursued all the other available leads.

I, personally, think we are putting so much hope and faith in Mueller that if nothing happens…then what? Sessions demonstrably lied to congress with no repercussions.

I don’t know what we can even expect at this point. Who is going to actually act on anything?

I am depressed this morning.

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JordanRules  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:02:24am

Fascinating and impressive local reporting.

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Belafon  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:02:25am

re: #150 HappyWarrior

I’ve never seen the movie in its entirety. TBH found it boring.

OK. It’s time for you to leave. Sorry.

If nothing else, this movie falls into “must know it to function in society.”

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:02:41am

re: #151 MsJ

I, personally, think we are putting so much hope and faith in Mueller that if nothing happens…then what? Sessions demonstrably lied to congress with no repercussions.

I don’t know what we can even expect at this point. Who is going to actually act on anything?

I am depressed this morning.

A blue wave in 2018 and 2020.

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Belafon  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:03:47am

re: #151 MsJ

I, personally, think we are putting so much hope and faith in Mueller that if nothing happens…then what? Sessions demonstrably lied to congress with no repercussions.

I don’t know what we can even expect at this point. Who is going to actually act on anything?

I am depressed this morning.

Here’s what I said a few months ago: Muller can’t save us, that’s our job. Mueller can only collect evidence of crimes. Even prosecuting Trump won’t save us.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:04:04am

re: #151 MsJ

I, personally, think we are putting so much hope and faith in Mueller that if nothing happens…then what? Sessions demonstrably lied to congress with no repercussions.

I don’t know what we can even expect at this point. Who is going to actually act on anything?

I am depressed this morning.

There have already been indictments and guilty pleas. Expect more.

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Interesting Times  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:05:25am

Well played:

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dangerman  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:06:10am

re: #150 HappyWarrior

I’ve never seen the movie in its entirety. TBH found it boring.

out —————————————————————————————————————————>

(jk really)

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Targetpractice  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:06:43am

re: #150 HappyWarrior

I’ve never seen the movie in its entirety. TBH found it boring.

BURN THE HERETIC!

/

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:07:31am

Sorry Happy
:(

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:07:58am

Could I get some pineapple on my pizza?

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:08:09am

re: #145 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

It only impacts old AMD chips. If AMD gave them incorrect documentation, they can’t be faulted for not testing the fix on old PCs. You can only have so many machines in your test area. They can be faulted for not rolling it out in waves if they released it to everyone at once.

Fixing the blame fairly is all well and good. My perspective is more about fixing the problem. I happen to run Intel on an Asus, but AMD is in a lot of machines out there. I guess we are the beta test as this moves along. The most recent bios for my main pc at home is last September so far. Per below I think I’ll not be an early adopter of the next flash bios update. Can’t depend on the browser patches either.

Intel tells users to stop deploying buggy Spectre patch, citing technical issues

More problems from the massive processor vulnerability

Intel has a patching problem. All last week, users reported computers spontaneously rebooting after installing Intel’s Spectre/Meltdown patch. Now, Intel seems to be giving up on those patches entirely. In a post today, executive vice president Navin Shenoy announced that Intel had located the source of some of the recent reboot problems and is recommending users skip the patches entirely until a better version could be deployed.

There are implications here way beyond consumer grumbles. There will always be lots of older computers hooked up to broadband. Vulnerable VPN’s. There is a cyber war on. Skirmishes so far. It would pay to get better at this.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:08:44am

re: #160 Shropshire Slasher

Sorry Happy
:(

Ha, it’s okay. We all have that one opinion.

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TedStriker  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:08:56am

re: #148 Shropshire Slasher

You aren’t a Matrix fan?

Fine, take the red pill.

//

re: #150 HappyWarrior

I’ve never seen the movie in its entirety. TBH found it boring.

re: #158 dangerman

out —————————————————————————————————————————>

(jk really)

/

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Belafon  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:09:40am

re: #163 HappyWarrior

Ha, it’s okay. We all have that one opinion.

You’re not allowed to have that opinion in this case.

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Belafon  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:10:43am

re: #164 TedStriker

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/

If I was at home, I’d find a clip of Hank Hill telling Bobby “We politely, but firmly, ask them to leave.”

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:11:10am

re: #157 Interesting Times

Well played:

Julia Galef

@juliagalef
I don’t know who first referred to Bitcoins as “Dunning-Krugerrands” but I love it
3:49 PM - Jan 22, 2018
64 64 Replies 2,945 2,945 Retweets 8,219 8,219 likes

And Trump is the first president to demonstrate the Dunning-Kruger effect

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Belafon  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:12:20am

Then again, Happy’s young enough he doesn’t quite realize the impact of the movie. I remember walking out, after I’d seen it, sounding just like Keanu: “Whoa.”

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TedStriker  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:13:37am

re: #168 Belafon

Then again, Happy’s young enough he doesn’t quite realize the impact of the movie. I remember walking out, after I’d seen it, sounding just like Keanu: “Whoa.”

Now, I will say that there’s only one Matrix movie…no others exist.

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makeitstop  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:15:30am

re: #105 Backwoods_Sleuth

update:

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dangerman  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:15:39am

re: #168 Belafon

Then again, Happy’s young enough he doesn’t quite realize the impact of the movie. I remember walking out, after I’d seen it, sounding just like Keanu: “Whoa.”

yup - paradigm shift-like

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:15:53am

re: #168 Belafon

Then again, Happy’s young enough he doesn’t quite realize the impact of the movie. I remember walking out, after I’d seen it, sounding just like Keanu: “Whoa.”

Oh I appreciated the technical aspects of it. But plot wise? It didn’t do it for me.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:16:47am

Tough crowd. I may also be one of the few time travel buffs that isn’t ga-ga for Dr. Who too.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:17:00am

re: #157 Interesting Times

Well played:

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I like that name, but anyone who bought as late as September has still made a profit.
People who bought them early have become extremely wealthy.

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MsJ  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:17:43am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:18:15am

re: #175 MsJ

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Yep.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:18:28am

re: #173 HappyWarrior

Tough crowd. I may also be one of the few time travel buffs that isn’t ga-ga for Dr. Who too.

Tom Baker era, yes. Now? I like it, but I don’t go out of my way to watch it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:18:51am
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MsJ  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:19:12am

re: #164 TedStriker

The Matrix

Remains one of my favorite movies of all time.

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dangerman  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:19:19am

re: #175 MsJ

The political and partisan phone message you get when you call the White House is wildly inappropriate. I also wonder about legality. You can’t use White House facilities for partisan political purposes, and there are limits on career employees doing explicitly partisan things.

uh, Bill.
who do you expect to do anything about it?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:19:24am

re: #162 Unshaken Defiance

Fixing the blame fairly is all well and good. My perspective is more about fixing the problem. I happen to run Intel on an Asus, but AMD is in a lot of machines out there. I guess we are the beta test as this moves along. The most recent bios for my main pc at home is last September so far. Per below I think I’ll not be an early adopter of the next flash bios update. Can’t depend on the browser patches either.

Intel tells users to stop deploying buggy Spectre patch, citing technical issues

There are implications here way beyond consumer grumbles. There will always be lots of older computers hooked up to broadband. Vulnerable VPN’s. There is a cyber war on. Skirmishes so far. It would pay to get better at this.

Most of my machines use Intel chips, but one of them is AMD. It was still working this morning.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:19:33am

re: #177 Shropshire Slasher

Tom Baker era, yes. Now? I like it, but I don’t go out of my way to watch it.

I’ve tired watching and while it’s not the most boring thing I’ve ever watched. I just can’t get into it. I’m the wrong kind of nerd for the 21st century.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:20:52am

re: #178 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Something must have gotten in the water when Trump visited for his golf courses. Sigh love Ireland and the Irish but dude what the fuck was that?

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:20:54am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:21:47am

re: #184 FormerDirtDart

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Fuck but thoughts and prayers.

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Belafon  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:22:13am

re: #172 HappyWarrior

Oh I appreciated the technical aspects of it. But plot wise? It didn’t do it for me.

It did way more than push how movies are made. That movie pushed “red-pill/blue-pill” into our culture. The matrix as control, and our sucky world being the only thing we’re content with, have both become themes used in conversation.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:23:14am

re: #134 Unshaken Defiance

This is a revolting development.
Microsoft’s chip security fix is turning some PCs into bricks

Meanwhile, Microsoft (MSFT) said AMD customers who can’t turn on their computers should run through a few troubleshooting scenarios, including booting into safe mode or even reinstalling Windows.

Let the hilarity ensue.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:23:19am

re: #184 FormerDirtDart

But but but it’s way too soon to talk about sensible gun legislation.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:23:36am

re: #169 TedStriker

Now, I will say that there’s only one Matrix movie…no others exist.

There is a tale from the earliest days of moving pictures in theaters. A scene of a train heading right at the audience in the theater. People jumped up as if to run. Sounds silly right? I think every big visual (or audio) jump in the look gets that ONE moment.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:23:39am

re: #186 Belafon

It did way more than push how movies are made. That movie pushed “red-pill/blue-pill” into our culture. The matrix as control, and our sucky world being the only thing we’re content with, have both become themes used in conversation.

Yeah I know. It’s no doubt influential and technically it’s one of the most innovative films of my life time but I had a hard time getting into it. Maybe I’ll give it anotehr view one of these nights.

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JordanRules  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:24:13am

I mean yall will still submit that Keanu as an actor is um, pretty meh though right?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:24:20am

re: #189 Unshaken Defiance

There is a tale from the earliest days of moving pictures in theaters. A scene of a train heading right at the audience in the theater. People jumped up as if to run. Sounds silly right? I think every big visual (or audio) jump in the look gets that ONE moment.

I believe they also thought people dying on screen were actually dying. Man that was such a different time period.

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Targetpractice  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:25:00am

The Matrix was groundbreaking largely in that it brought a lot of then-new film-making techniques together with a pretty familiar story: The “real world” is all an illusion, sentiment machines at war with humanity, a messiah-like character, etc. For the time it was amazing, but as time’s passed most of the effects have become dated and overused. So you’re left with a story which, while it may make you think, wasn’t really the big draw for everyone.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:25:10am

re: #191 JordanRules

I mean yall will still submit that Keanu as an actor is um, pretty meh though right?

I liked him in Bill and Ted but he probably wasn’t acting. And Point Break is a good one. Keanu’s not much of an actor though. Nice guy I hear though.

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MsJ  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:25:47am

re: #191 JordanRules

I mean yall will still submit that Keanu as an actor is um, pretty meh though right?

I couldn’t picture a better Neo. I don’t think Keanu sucks as badly as some think.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:26:32am

re: #168 Belafon

Then again, Happy’s young enough he doesn’t quite realize the impact of the movie. I remember walking out, after I’d seen it, sounding just like Keanu: “Whoa.”

And that was the reaction I had when I first saw Akira.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:26:35am

re: #184 FormerDirtDart

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The Tree of Liberty gets another watering. Its one damn bloodthirsty plant.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:27:31am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:27:42am

re: #195 MsJ

I couldn’t picture a better Neo. I don’t think Keanu sucks as badly as some think.

Keanu Reeves in Bram Stoker’s Dracula
HEh I dunno but he does know where the bastard sleeps. He’s not terrible but that British accent heh.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:28:21am

re: #198 FormerDirtDart

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OF course.

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Targetpractice  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:28:52am

I honestly think films like Terminator 2 and Jurassic Park have held up better than The Matrix because while they all used CGI when it was still ground-breaking, they had a greater reliance on practical effects that don’t look dated now.

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JordanRules  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:29:51am
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ObserverArt  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:30:40am

re: #105 Backwoods_Sleuth

update:

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Belafon  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:32:37am

re: #191 JordanRules

I mean yall will still submit that Keanu as an actor is um, pretty meh though right?

Agree.

I wanted Kiefer Sutherland to play John Constantine.

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Citizen K  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:34:26am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:34:30am

re: #204 Belafon

Agree.

I wanted Kiefer Sutherland to play John Constantine.

They’re both terrible actors, but I do enjoy Sutherland’s scenery-chewing.

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Jay C  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:38:42am

re: #189 Unshaken Defiance

There is a tale from the earliest days of moving pictures in theaters. A scene of a train heading right at the audience in the theater. People jumped up as if to run. Sounds silly right? I think every big visual (or audio) jump in the look gets that ONE moment.

True: I first heard that story when I took some film classes at USC back in the hand-cranked/silent film era* : supposedly it happened at the Lumiere Bros.’ first public showing of projected “films” in 1895. The “jump” back then was the “projected” part: people (well some, mainly urban folks) were semi-used to “moving pictures”, although they were typically penny-arcade attractions, coin-operated viewers. the Lumieres, IIRC, weren’t the first to come up with the idea of projecting the images on a “big screen”, but were the first to do it for a paying audience.

* (sarcasm) It was 1972. Though I do recall using the old brass hand-cranked (?) Mutoscope (?) viewers when I was a kid in the late ’50s. Some old-fashioned technology is pretty durable. Now get off my lawn!

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Belafon  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:39:51am

re: #206 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

They’re both terrible actors, but I do enjoy Sutherland’s scenery-chewing.

I think there are roles that are waiting for actors. Ever since I saw Sutherland in Flatliners, I picture him as the guy who doesn’t really give a shit about other people. And that’s how I see Constantine. He does the right thing, but not because he really cares about people.

Another role I think was waiting for an actor was Karl Urban as McCoy in the Star Trek movies. I think most of the other actors are OK, but he is McCoy, and filled in DeForest Kelley’s shoes quite well.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:42:09am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:42:44am

re: #209 FormerDirtDart

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:43:03am

My 720p DLP projector failed Sunday, so I bought this one with one day delivery for under $700. It runs at 120 and 144hz, so the DLP rainbow effect is hard to detect. It has a better picture than my $1,200 Panasonic LCD projector and is so bright that it even looks pretty good with the lights on.

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Belafon  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:44:21am

re: #209 FormerDirtDart

More evidence that Sessions will do whatever he can to protect his own ass.

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dangerman  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:45:58am

re: #190 HappyWarrior

Yeah I know. It’s no doubt influential and technically it’s one of the most innovative films of my life time but I had a hard time getting into it. Maybe I’ll give it anotehr view one of these nights.

take the red pill before you hit play

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makeitstop  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:49:39am

re: #212 Belafon

More evidence that Sessions will do whatever he can to protect his own ass.

I dunno. Maybe Mueller threatened to bring the hammer down if he discussed his testimony with Babyhands.

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ObserverArt  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:51:05am

re: #173 HappyWarrior

Tough crowd. I may also be one of the few time travel buffs that isn’t ga-ga for Dr. Who too.

I have your back Happy. Never watched a Dr. Who, never saw the Matrix.

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:51:09am
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MsJ  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:52:12am

re: #215 ObserverArt

I have your back Happy. Never watched a Dr. Who, never saw the Matrix.

Dooooooood.

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DodgerFan1988  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:52:25am
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Dr Lizardo  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:53:01am

This is amazing - a real-time demo of compositing. Quite impressive.

Real-time Compositing Demo / UE4 On-Set Facilities / test 1

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:53:07am

re: #216 Ace-o-aces

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There literally is no point of doing this except to be a spiteful jerk and to be a gofer for the coal industry.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:53:51am

re: #218 DodgerFan1988

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This guy should be lauded not arrested.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:57:59am

re: #220 HappyWarrior

Yeah, I’m sure one of Trumps industry buddies went all out to sell him on this.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:58:34am
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MsJ  Jan 23, 2018 • 8:58:57am
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allegro  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:00:30am

Something else I learned today about cats: cats fetch. Or maybe just Onyx does as she discovered this morning. Dropped a wadded up old grocery list for her to play with (why do we buy cat toys?) and for the last hour she has been bringing it back to me, first dropping it in my lap, now got her putting it my hand, to throw for her to play with then bring back. If I try to ignore her she meows insistently. I think she’s part Labrador Retriever.

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ObserverArt  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:00:32am

re: #217 MsJ

Dooooooood.

I’m not putting down anyone that likes them. Don’t take it as criticism.

The world would be a boring place if we all liked the exact same things.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:02:24am

re: #215 ObserverArt

We saw the Matrix and the Thirteenth Floor, which were both released in 1999. There are some similarities in concept (the computer world) but I loved Thirteenth Floor and found Matrix not particularly engaging

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Targetpractice  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:02:52am

re: #209 FormerDirtDart

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BeachDem  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:03:13am

re: #153 Belafon

OK. It’s time for you to leave. Sorry.

If nothing else, this movie falls into “must know it to function in society.”

My nephew’s reaction to it was hilarious. Said he hated it the first four times he watched it, then finally liked it the fifth time.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:03:20am

If you liked the Matrix you owe it to yourself to check out Dark City.

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MsJ  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:03:44am

re: #226 ObserverArt

I’m not putting down anyone that likes them. Don’t take it as criticism.

The world would be a boring place if we all liked the exact same things.

Not liking it is one thing. But not seeing it? Dooooooood. ;-)

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Targetpractice  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:04:08am

re: #227 Hecuba’s daughter

We saw the Matrix and the Thirteenth Floor, which were both released in 1999. There are some similarities in concept (the computer world) but I loved Thirteenth Floor and found Matrix not particularly engaging

The twist in Thirteenth Floor was better.

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Skip Intro  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:06:21am

re: #216 Ace-o-aces

This is perfect timing for the launch of my new business installing coal burners on rooftops. Thanks President Trump!

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:08:45am

re: #227 Hecuba’s daughter

We saw the Matrix and the Thirteenth Floor, which were both released in 1999. There are some similarities in concept (the computer world) but I loved Thirteenth Floor and found Matrix not particularly engaging

Existenz was the third movie with a similar concept that also was released in 1999.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:09:03am

re: #232 Targetpractice

The twist in Thirteenth Floor was better.

Thirteenth Floor was a traditional film noir, in a sci-fi setting. Thought it was excellent.

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Belafon  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:09:06am

re: #232 Targetpractice

The twist in Thirteenth Floor was better.

I liked the Thirteenth Floor, but it was an M. Night Shyamalan ending.

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MsJ  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:09:46am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:10:46am
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wrenchwench  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:10:49am
by Mark Knopfler & ….

Mark Knopfler seeks out and performs with the best. I think it rubs off on him. Here’s one of my faves:

Mark Knopfler & Chet Atkins - Neck and neck-03 - There’ll be some changes made

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Belafon  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:11:41am

The twist at the end of the Thirteenth Floor was almost the plot of the Matrix, which I personally liked exploring.

No point in arguing movies, though. It’s a bit like arguing over music.

I’m just in the camp that there are certain movies you have to see. It’s a bit like discussing Western culture without knowing the Bible.

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Targetpractice  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:12:27am

re: #235 Hecuba’s daughter

Thirteenth Floor was a traditional film noir, in a sci-fi setting. Thought it was excellent.

It was, there was less time wasted on philosophical rambling and building up the main character as a messiah and more time on investigating the mystery. True, the mystery ended up being a bit hackneyed, but it was forgivable because it fit the story’s tone rather than a deus ex machina ass-pull at the end.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:15:10am

re: #236 Belafon

I liked the Thirteenth Floor, but it was an M. Night Shyamalan ending.

The ending made sense given what preceded it… and certainly not inspired by M. Night Shyamalan

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:15:22am
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Romantic Heretic  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:15:46am

re: #169 TedStriker

Now, I will say that there’s only one Matrix movie…no others exist.

At the end of the final movie when The Architect asks, “What do you think I am? Human?”

I shouted, “Yes! Yes, I do! Because only a human would believe that they have a perfect understanding of the universe and then try to force that ‘perfection’ on everybody else!”

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:16:26am

re: #230 Eclectic Cyborg

If you liked the Matrix you owe it to yourself to check out Dark City.

Dark City is one of my favorite sci-fi films of all time.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:18:16am

jeebus

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:19:11am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:19:49am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:20:06am

re: #246 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:21:11am

re: #196 Dr Lizardo

And that was the reaction I had when I first saw Akira.

If you like anime from that era this Robert Rodrigues movie looks very promising,

Alita: Battle Angel | Official Trailer [HD] | 20th Century FOX

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allegro  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:21:28am

re: #245 Dr Lizardo

Dark City is one of my favorite sci-fi films of all time.

I loved that one as well. But then any movie starring Rufus Sewell is on my fave list. Love that guy.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:22:24am

re: #247 Ace-o-aces

Here’s hoping Allison Janney wins Best Supporting Actress for I, Tonya. She was absolutely brilliant.

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Targetpractice  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:22:43am

re: #245 Dr Lizardo

Dark City is one of my favorite sci-fi films of all time.

Dark City and Thirteenth Floor were traditional film noir and so relied heavily upon mystery. In The Matrix, the mystery is pretty well gone within the first 30 minutes of the movie: Neo is “The One” and the rest of the film is about proving that. Matrix is just the better known one because it was an action film that brought a lot of (then) cutting-edge effects to the big screen.

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Belafon  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:22:50am

re: #251 allegro

I loved that one as well. But then any movie starring Rufus Sewell is on my fave list. Love that guy.

He does a good Lord M on Victoria.

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sagehen  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:23:05am

talkingpointsmemo.com

UK Regulators: Fox’s Sky Merger Would Give Murdoch Too Much Media Control

LONDON (AP) — British regulators say 21st Century Fox’s takeover of London-based broadcaster Sky is not in the public interest because it would give Rupert Murdoch and his family too much control over the country’s news media.

But the regulators offered potential solutions to their objections, including the spin-off of Sky News or “behavioral remedies” that would reduce the Murdoch family’s ability to direct Sky’s news coverage.

The rest of the world is taking note what happened here…

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makeitstop  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:23:36am

re: #225 allegro

Something else I learned today about cats: cats fetch. Or maybe just Onyx does as she discovered this morning. Dropped a wadded up old grocery list for her to play with (why do we buy cat toys?) and for the last hour she has been bringing it back to me, first dropping it in my lap, now got her putting it my hand, to throw for her to play with then bring back. If I try to ignore her she meows insistently. I think she’s part Labrador Retriever.

My cat Bean plays fetch, too! He makes me laugh because he looks like he’s bringing that wadded-up paper with such purpose.

I never had a cat who played fetch before, although a couple of friends tell me that they’ve had cats who did. I think it’s pretty much the funniest thing in the world. My dog doesn’t even fetch.

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Sea Mexican!  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:23:40am

re: #115 Backwoods_Sleuth

further update:

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Sea Mexican!  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:24:41am

re: #246 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus

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JordanRules  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:25:28am
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Dr Lizardo  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:26:28am

re: #250 Romantic Heretic

If you like anime from that era this Robert Rodrigues movie looks very promising,

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Mmmhh…….I’m not a big fan of live-action adaptations of anime films. That being said, it does look interesting.

Personally, I was disappointed with Ghost In The Shell. The original anime film was vastly superior, as it touched more heavily on philosophical and existential themes than the Americanized remake. In my opinion, the live-action film was dumbed down and that, quite honestly, grates on my nerves.

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allegro  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:26:51am

re: #254 Belafon

He does a good Lord M on Victoria.

Spoiler

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:28:45am

re: #255 sagehen

talkingpointsmemo.com

UK Regulators: Fox’s Sky Merger Would Give Murdoch Too Much Media Control

The rest of the world is taking note what happened here…

Wish our regulators would have seen that. Murdoch is a poisonous prick.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:28:46am

re: #260 Dr Lizardo

Mmmhh…….I’m not a big fan of live-action adaptations of anime films. That being said, it does look interesting.

Personally, I was disappointed with Ghost In The Shell. The original anime film was vastly superior, as it touched more heavily on philosophical and existential themes than the Americanized remake. In my opinion, the live-action film was dumbed down and that, quite honestly, grates on my nerves.

I thought it turned out pretty well, much better than I expected. It’s been many years since I saw the anime version.

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Belafon  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:28:50am

Happy, I hope you’ve seen the original Ghost in the Shell movie.

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makeitstop  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:28:57am

DiFi and Schiff shout into the void.

You know neither one of these dorks is going to do anything.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:30:22am

Looking at the Oscar nominations, I saw that Roger Deakins was nominated for Blade Runner 2049 for cinematography. I hope he wins, but I’d say he’s got some serious competition from Hoyte Van Hoytema for Dunkirk, which was equally masterful.

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:30:23am

re: #260 Dr Lizardo

It didn’t do wonders for me either although I didn’t hate on it like so many did,

But Robert Rodriguez is a director I trust to do good work.

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allegro  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:30:44am

re: #256 makeitstop

My cat Bean plays fetch, too! He makes me laugh because he looks like he’s bringing that wadded-up paper with such purpose.

I never had a cat who played fetch before, although a couple of friends tell me that they’ve had cats who did. I think it’s pretty much the funniest thing in the world. My dog doesn’t even fetch.

My dog doesn’t fetch either. At least not with me. I toss him a tennis ball and he plays fetch by himself, throwing the ball then chasing it. It’s a riot to watch.

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MsJ  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:31:21am

re: #255 sagehen

talkingpointsmemo.com

UK Regulators: Fox’s Sky Merger Would Give Murdoch Too Much Media Control

The rest of the world is taking note what happened here…

I am truly concerned about Murdoch getting control of BSkyB. That would be a global tragedy of (not hyperbolically) epic proportions.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:32:12am
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dangerman  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:32:25am

re: #225 allegro

Something else I learned today about cats: cats fetch. Or maybe just Onyx does as she discovered this morning. Dropped a wadded up old grocery list for her to play with (why do we buy cat toys?) and for the last hour she has been bringing it back to me, first dropping it in my lap, now got her putting it my hand, to throw for her to play with then bring back. If I try to ignore her she meows insistently. I think she’s part Labrador Retriever.

our cats fetch too:
if we drop a wadded up piece of paper, or a crinkly piece of plastic, our cats will play around with it for a while then grab it and take it wherever they want

oh, you expect them to bring it back to you? silly human.

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plansbandc  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:32:50am

re: #105 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:33:16am

re: #265 makeitstop

DiFi and Schiff shout into the void.

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You know neither one of these dorks is going to do anything.

Given that both FB and Twitter have heavy investments from the Russians, why would Mark or Jack care about doing what’s right for the country, when all that matters is what’s right for their bottom line

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dangerman  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:33:34am

re: #226 ObserverArt

I’m not putting down anyone that likes them. Don’t take it as criticism.

The world would be a boring place if we all liked the exact same things.

Individuality is fine, as long as we all do it together. — Frank Burns

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:34:43am

re: #267 Romantic Heretic

It didn’t do wonders for me either although I didn’t hate on it like so many did,

But Robert Rodriguez is a director I trust to do good work.

Yeah, Rodriguez is a solid director. I know James Cameron was kicking around a live-action Battle Angel Alita for years and years - but now he’s doing the Avatar sequels. Rodriguez is a good choice.

Sadly, though I think we’ll never see these films, I’d love to: David Fincher’s Rendezvous with Rama and Guillermo Del Toro’s At the Mountains of Madness. Those two films have been stuck in development hell for at least a decade or so.

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MsJ  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:34:56am

re: #265 makeitstop

DiFi and Schiff shout into the void.

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You know neither one of these dorks is going to do anything.

Let’s hope the dems start tossing around the R (regulation) word because, while nothing will happen now, Republican’s won’t be there always.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:35:42am
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Belafon  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:35:50am

re: #270 The Vicious Babushka

I hope James realizes that, even if 90% of Americans wanted him gone, the GOP isn’t going to do anything. And, I suspect that, if we swept every seat up for election (which means not only taking over the Senate, but removing all Republicans from the House), McConnell would still obstruct any investigation.

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ObserverArt  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:36:07am

re: #259 JordanRules

City of Monterey

@CityofMonterey
#RIP Watch @HughMasekela perform at the iconic #Monterey Pop Festival in 1967:

Hugh Masekela - Bajabula Bonke

#RIPHughMasekela #BajabulaBonke @MIPFofficial

10:43 AM - Jan 23, 2018
1 1 Reply 3 3 Retweets 3 3 likes

Which is why he is mentioned in the Eric Burdon and The Animals song Down in Monterey.

The verse from the song…

The Byrds and the Airplane did fly
Oh, Ravi Shankar’s music made me cry
The Who exploded into fire and light
Hugh Masekela’s music was black as night
The Grateful Dead blew everybody’s mind
Jimi Hendrix, baby, believe me,
set the world on fire, yeah

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:36:31am

re: #268 allegro

My dog doesn’t fetch either. At least not with me. I toss him a tennis ball and he plays fetch by himself, throwing the ball then chasing it. It’s a riot to watch.

My dog can’t catch, I can’t tell you how many biscuits I have bounced off the top of his thick skull.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:37:38am

And of course none of the anti-immigrant people I know can even comment on the story about the Polish-American doc in Michigan being detained by ICE. Cowards.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:37:49am

re: #177 Shropshire Slasher

Tom Baker era, yes. Now? I like it, but I don’t go out of my way to watch it.

still one of my favo(u)rite Doctors

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sagehen  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:37:52am

re: #206 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

They’re both terrible actors, but I do enjoy Sutherland’s scenery-chewing.

Kiefer Sutherland’s voice makes me melt. (and yeah, he’s good-looking too. But mostly it’s the voice).

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wrenchwench  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:38:18am

re: #271 dangerman

our cats fetch too:
if we drop a wadded up piece of paper, or a crinkly piece of plastic, our cats will play around with it for a while then grab it and take it wherever they want

oh, you expect them to bring it back to you? silly human.

One of my cats fetches. He digs out his stuffed little ball from the corner of the couch we keep it in when he’s ready to play.

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Targetpractice  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:39:41am

re: #275 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, Rodriguez is a solid director. I know James Cameron was kicking around a live-action Battle Angel Alita for years and years - but now he’s doing the Avatar sequels. Rodriguez is a good choice.

Sadly, though I think we’ll never see these films, I’d love to: David Fincher’s Rendezvous with Rama and Guillermo Del Toro’s At the Mountains of Madness. Those two films have been stuck in development hell for at least a decade or so.

Yeah, I’d been nursing a grudge for years over Cameron announcing that he was shelving Alita because he’d signed a contract for several Avatar sequels. It wasn’t just that he’d been promising that he’d be making the film for years, but that he’d also said the entire reason for making Avatar was to develop the technology necessary to make Alita. It’s like a video game developer promising a major sequel to a popular franchise, then putting it aside to make easier cash on updates to existing games (I’m lookin’ at you, Valve!).

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:39:49am

re: #277 FormerDirtDart

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:40:21am

re: #286 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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Resigning in handcuffs would be nice too.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:40:23am
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Targetpractice  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:42:02am

re: #288 FormerDirtDart

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Prediction now: House GOP will attempt to slip wall funding into the Feb 8th CR.

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dangerman  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:43:13am

re: #284 wrenchwench

One of my cats fetches. He digs out his stuffed little ball from the corner of the couch we keep it in when he’s ready to play.

we do have one of those ball on a string on a stick things hanging off a counter.

squeak bats at it when she deigns to play with me let me hold the stick for a bit

too undignified for monster. also too much work

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:44:14am

re: #288 FormerDirtDart

It’s impossible to negotiate in good faith with either Trump or the GOP. It’s an exercise in futility.

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MsJ  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:44:25am

re: #289 Targetpractice

Prediction now: House GOP will attempt to slip wall funding into the Feb 8th CR.

They can slip in whatever they want. There will be decades of lawsuits from landowners. The wall is going nowhere.

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Citizen K  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:46:16am

re: #288 FormerDirtDart

Maybe Chuck didn’t give away the farm after all. Just a thought.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:46:28am

Why give him what he wants on the wall? If taxes go up due to that, the GOP will just blame the Democrats for the tax hike and for not “getting” Mexico to pay for it. I am glad Schumer said no deal on the wall but I would have been no deal regardless. The wall was always bullshit.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:47:10am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:47:43am

re: #293 Citizen K

Maybe Chuck didn’t give away the farm after all. Just a thought.

He’s got McConnell cornered on DACA IMO. McConnell goes back on his word on DACA. The whole country will know that McConnell can’t be trusted and would make the public more inclined to vote for a Dem majority in the Senate.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:48:03am

re: #295 FormerDirtDart

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JFC tehse people.

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ObserverArt  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:48:10am

re: #288 FormerDirtDart

Kyle Griffin

@kylegriffin1
Chuck Schumer has informed the White House that he’s withdrawing his offer to give Trump the money he needed for the border wall, Politico reports. politico.com

12:35 PM - Jan 23, 2018

Uh oh, Chuck is ramping up the game.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:48:11am

re: #295 FormerDirtDart

The stench of desperation is overpowering.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:49:57am

re: #295 FormerDirtDart

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:51:20am

re: #299 Dr Lizardo

The stench of desperation is overpowering.

I’m waiting for them to attempt to purge anyone who worked in DOJ, DOS, etc in Obama’s administration. Didn’t Trump want to revise civil service laws? But yeah “Crooked Hillary.”

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ObserverArt  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:52:22am

re: #296 HappyWarrior

He’s got McConnell cornered on DACA IMO. McConnell goes back on his word on DACA. The whole country will know that McConnell can’t be trusted and would make the public more inclined to vote for a Dem majority in the Senate.

And by dropping the wall deal Schumer is going to piss off Trump and make things even harder for McConnell to get anything done. It’s all going to have to be done without Trump now. With America watching now, Mitch and the boys are gonna have to do some actual hard work and be held responsible for it.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:55:55am

re: #292 MsJ

They can slip in whatever they want. There will be decades of lawsuits from landowners. The wall is going nowhere.

Unless they just ignore them

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Jay C  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:56:58am

re: #301 HappyWarrior

I’m waiting for them to attempt to purge anyone who worked in DOJ, DOS, etc in Obama’s administration. Didn’t Trump want to revise civil service laws? But yeah “Crooked Hillary.”

Basically, isn’t that what’s happening at State under Tillerson’s “management” anyway? From everything I’ve read, there has been a steady diminuation of personnel who haven’t been replaced. And that, I think, only because the Admin doesn’t give a shit about the State Department, otherwise they would be stacking the rosters with reliably-vetted ideologues, partisans and toadies. Which, except for Civil Service protections, is surely what they have in mind for Justice.

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Targetpractice  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:58:46am

re: #296 HappyWarrior

He’s got McConnell cornered on DACA IMO. McConnell goes back on his word on DACA. The whole country will know that McConnell can’t be trusted and would make the public more inclined to vote for a Dem majority in the Senate.

Tom Cole pretty much gave away the game plan today:

The congressman then bashed the bipartisan group of senators who tried to reach a compromise on immigrants under Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, saying House lawmakers should have been invited to participate.

“The issue there was, in my view, you should haven’t tried to end run the process,” Cole said. “We had senators coming in with what they thought was a deal, but it wasn’t an acceptable deal to the standpoint of the president, it would have never gotten through the House. Let’s go back and put everybody at the negotiating table that has to sign off on this thing, not just a group of senators. I’m sorry, the Constitution demands it get through the House and demands the president sign it. So if those people are not at the table, your chances of getting a deal go down.”

What I expect to happen is the House GOP will first make a lot of noise about how there’s no existing deal and the negotiations have to start back at square one if the DNC wants a deal that all sides agree to. When the DNC balks and says they already have a bipartisan bill, the House GOP will declare their refusal to consider it and ram through their own bill (“Securing America’s Future” Act) on a party line vote and seek Trump’s blessing because will “secure the border” while ending “chain migration.” At which time McConnell will say that the terms of his agreement have been met, a DACA bill is on the Senate’s plate and the Senate Dems take-it-or-leave-it.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 23, 2018 • 9:59:45am
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wrenchwench  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:00:24am

re: #290 dangerman

we do have one of those ball on a string on a stick things hanging off a counter.

squeak bats at it when she deigns to play with me let me hold the stick for a bit

too undignified for monster. also too much work

Yesterday I took a whole day off and saw what goes on all day. They’re two brothers, Presta and Schrader. Presta finds a good spot, curls up and sleeps until Schrader comes over and cleans Presta’s ears until he leaves the warm spot to Schrader.

Schrader. The Manx.

‘I didn’t do anything.’

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Interesting Times  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:00:58am

re: #296 HappyWarrior

He’s got McConnell cornered on DACA IMO. McConnell goes back on his word on DACA. The whole country will know that McConnell can’t be trusted and would make the public more inclined to vote for a Dem majority in the Senate.

As per Belafon’s 118, you’re going (to opposite-paraphrase H.L. Mencken) to go broke overestimating the intelligence of the American public.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:01:14am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:01:25am

re: #304 Jay C

Basically, isn’t that what’s happening at State under Tillerson’s “management” anyway? From everything I’ve read, there has been a steady diminuation of personnel who haven’t been replaced. And that, I think, only because the Admin doesn’t give a shit about the State Department, otherwise they would be stacking the rosters with reliably-vetted ideologues, partisans and toadies. Which, except for Civil Service protections, is surely what they have in mind for Justice.

A lot yeah but I mean anyone who may have joined during the Obama years.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:02:07am

re: #309 FormerDirtDart

Are they trying to get the dog to freeze to death?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:02:18am

re: #308 Interesting Times

As per Belafon’s 118, you’re going (to opposite-paraphrase H.L. Mencken) to go broke overestimating the intelligence of the American public.

Could well be.

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JordanRules  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:03:36am

re: #308 Interesting Times

3 million smarter the last time.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:04:20am

re: #311 Shropshire Slasher

Are they trying to get the dog to freeze to death?

No, they’re just dumb and don’t understand how fur works.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:06:26am

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:07:13am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:07:14am

Betsy DeVos gets SCHOOLED

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Belafon  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:07:34am

re: #303 Stanley Sea

Unless they just ignore them

They still can’t get on my land without making me an offer I accept (I own one square foot thanks to Cards Against Humanity).

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A Mom Anon  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:07:49am

re: #105 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Citizen K  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:07:53am

re: #311 Shropshire Slasher

Are they trying to get the dog to freeze to death?

Not sure how it’d make the dog colder unless they outright shaved him to get the shirt to fit on.

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JordanRules  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:09:11am

What an update on this story posted earlier. Whoa!

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Stanley Sea  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:10:44am

re: #315 Backwoods_Sleuth

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:10:57am

re: #321 JordanRules

What an update on this story posted earlier. Whoa!

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Genealogy is amazing. I’ve found my moms grandparents immigration record, dad’s grandfather, & one of his great grandmother’s.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:12:53am

re: #316 Backwoods_Sleuth

There are just over 38,000 people living inFloyd County, Kentucky. Yet between 2010 and 2016, a San Francisco-based pharmaceutical distributor shipped more than 18 million doses of opioid painkillers there, enough for each person to have 477 pills each

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A Mom Anon  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:15:40am

re: #324 Dr Lizardo

Sadly, this is but one of many areas around or in Appalachia that have been targeted like this. It’s not just there either. These drug companies and the doctors involved in this are not being held accountable.

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Interesting Times  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:16:09am

re: #313 JordanRules

3 million smarter the last time.

But not in the states that matter according to America’s hideously antiquated system -_- Sadly, Belafon’s correct when he suggests the poll numbers in support of Dreamers are misleading - a large chunk of white voters may support them in principle, but not in practice. The only way to change that would be a prolonged PR campaign (looking at you, Tom Steyer) to pound into the heads of these insular and clueless types how much Dreamers contribute to the economy and how deporting them would hurt things white voters care about.

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sagehen  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:19:05am

Remember a couple of years ago, some American soldiers on vacation in France who saved a trainful of people from a terrorist shooter?

It’s a movie now, directed by Clint Eastwood, the guys are playing themselves.

THE 15:17 TO PARIS - Official Trailer [HD]

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:19:54am

re: #326 Interesting Times

But not in the states that matter according to America’s hideously antiquated system -_- Sadly, Belafon’s correct when he suggests the poll numbers in support of Dreamers are misleading - a large chunk of white voters may support them in principle, but not in practice. The only way to change that would be a prolonged PR campaign (looking at you, Tom Steyer) to pound into the heads of these insular and clueless types how much Dreamers contribute to the economy and how deporting them would hurt things white voters care about.

That’s very true. It does suck and I hope that there is such a campaign.

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Jay C  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:20:07am

re: #324 Dr Lizardo

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OK: not to take away from the indubitable fact that there has to be SOMETHING hinky going on with painkiller distribution in Floyd Cty, KY, that figure of “477 pills per person” is slightly misleading, as that seems to be over a seven-year period (2010-16): or 68 pills per person per year. Still seems off, though.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:20:09am

re: #325 A Mom Anon

Sadly, this is but one of many areas around or in Appalachia that have been targeted like this. It’s not just there either. These drug companies and the doctors involved in this are not being held accountable.

Our former sheriff arrested the doctor in our county who was handing out the pills. The doctor was successfully prosecuted and sent to prison. Our current sheriff is continuing the work by going after the local dealers. Addicts are offered the opportunity for treatment.
It’s good to know our Ky AG is now going after the big distributors.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:21:44am

re: #254 Belafon

He does a good Lord M on Victoria.

He is also terrific in The Man in the High Castle

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:22:03am

We need to do a PR battle on behalf of the DREAMers. Wheat had a great idea last night about using DREAMers who have served with distinction in the armed forces with the simple message “I served to protect you, will you protect me?”

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Belafon  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:22:21am

re: #329 Jay C

OK: not to take away from the indubitable fact that there has to be SOMETHING hinky going on with painkiller distribution in Floyd Cty, KY, that figure of “477 pills per person” is slightly misleading, as that seems to be over a seven-year period (2010-16): or 68 pills per person per year. Still seems off, though.

I figured they were talking about over the seven year period since they didn’t say “per year”. But that’s per every person, 95% of whom don’t need any of that medication.

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plansbandc  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:23:00am

A phony on his phoney…

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:24:57am

re: #325 A Mom Anon

Sadly, this is but one of many areas around or in Appalachia that have been targeted like this. It’s not just there either. These drug companies and the doctors involved in this are not being held accountable.

For years I have been in favor of sending Pharmaceutical CEOs to prison. They deliberately created this crisis; doctors are usually useless in understanding the effects of medication; they rely on lying pharmaceutical reps. Unless people at the top of these firms suffer real financial and personal consequences for their depravity, it will continue. I’m in favor of sending them to prison for life, just like a member of the drug cartels, and stripping their families of all assets

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:24:59am

re: #278 Belafon

I hope James realizes that, even if 90% of Americans wanted him gone, the GOP isn’t going to do anything. And, I suspect that, if we swept every seat up for election (which means not only taking over the Senate, but removing all Republicans from the House), McConnell would still obstruct any investigation.

Fortunately McConnell can’t do squat to obstruct an investigation by the House.

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Interesting Times  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:25:17am

What do you expect from a nation where people eat Tide Pods? -_-

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:25:55am

re: #337 Interesting Times

What do you expect from a nation where people eat Tide Pods? -_-

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The United States of Amnesia.

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Belafon  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:27:01am

re: #336 Big Beautiful Door

Fortunately McConnell can’t do squat to obstruct an investigation by the House.

You’re right. I meant to write impeachment.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:27:51am

re: #339 Belafon

You’re right. I meant to write impeachment.

Baby steps but I hear ya.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:28:46am

re: #337 Interesting Times

What do you expect from a nation where people eat Tide Pods? -_-

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Targetpractice  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:28:49am

re: #337 Interesting Times

What do you expect from a nation where people eat Tide Pods? -_-

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Considering how many times one or more lizards have remarked that Dubya was “better” in comparison to Trump, it’s not shocking that his popularity has risen. But that’s like saying that syphilis is “better” than AIDS.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:29:14am

re: #327 sagehen

Remember a couple of years ago, some American soldiers on vacation in France who saved a trainful of people from a terrorist shooter?

It’s a movie now, directed by Clint Eastwood, the guys are playing themselves.

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Is it the actual guys? OK, I’ve seen the ads and thought ‘man, looks like they cast doppelgangers’

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:29:18am

I keep on thinking about what Obama said about NPR and FNC and man so true. I see what other people out there believe in comments on news stories including people I know and I just go wow.

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Belafon  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:29:45am

re: #342 Targetpractice

Considering how many times one or more lizards have remarked that Dubya was “better” in comparison to Trump, it’s not shocking that his popularity has risen. But that’s like saying that syphilis is “better” than AIDS.

I have a rather favorable opinion of his staying off TV.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:29:54am

re: #342 Targetpractice

Considering how many times one or more lizards have remarked that Dubya was “better” in comparison to Trump, it’s not shocking that his popularity has risen. But that’s like saying that syphilis is “better” than AIDS.

I still would say I disapprove of Bush though if I asked. I may find him less repugnant as a person than Trump but he was still a bad president. Trump hasn’t changed taht for me.

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Weaselone  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:30:17am

re: #342 Targetpractice

Considering how many times one or more lizards have remarked that Dubya was “better” in comparison to Trump, it’s not shocking that his popularity has risen. But that’s like saying that syphilis is “better” than AIDS.

Syphilis still wouldn’t have a positive rating.

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MsJ  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:30:18am

re: #303 Stanley Sea

Unless they just ignore them

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There are still landowners. Even if they do eminent domain, it will be in the courts for a while.

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:30:54am

re: #306 FormerDirtDart

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Interesting Times  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:32:36am

re: #342 Targetpractice

Considering how many times one or more lizards have remarked that Dubya was “better” in comparison to Trump, it’s not shocking that his popularity has risen. But that’s like saying that syphilis is “better” than AIDS.

I used to say that Cheeto Benito, horrible as he is, still hadn’t achieved Bushian body counts (Katrina, Iraq War). Well…Puerto Rico takes care of the former, and the latter…I don’t even want to think about that lest I depress myself even further.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:32:52am

I’m part depressed, part optimistic. Depressed because there’s a part of this country that sucks and I can’t see getting any better but optimistic too because there’s a lot of this country that doesn’t suck. Trumpism has made the right, already obnoxious and vile even worse and I just don’t see anyway that gets better.

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Targetpractice  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:33:13am

Consider the events of the past week. Dubya might have similar thoughts to Trump on where immigrants are coming from, but he never voiced them aloud in the middle of a meeting on immigration reform. And he wanted immigration reform, without a massive wall built to honor his ego or policies that would break up families. Nor would he have unilaterally axed DACA without first having some alternative on the table, simply to spite the legacy of the guy he felt he’s “better” than.

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sagehen  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:33:27am

re: #333 Belafon

I figured they were talking about over the seven year period since they didn’t say “per year”. But that’s per every person, 95% of whom don’t need any of that medication.

They’re unemployed, they needed the pills to sell in the next county over…

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:33:31am

re: #350 Interesting Times

I used to say that Cheeto Benito, horrible as he is, still hadn’t achieved Bushian body counts (Katrina, Iraq War). Well…Puerto Rico takes care of the former, and the latter…I don’t even want to think about that lest I depress myself even further.

I have a friend that has made a similar observation. I don’t want to think about a Trump war.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:34:32am

re: #281 HappyWarrior

And of course none of the anti-immigrant people I know can even comment on the story about the Polish-American doc in Michigan being detained by ICE. Cowards.

If they are going to destroy families, I want them going after whites just as much as Hispanics and Africans. Some Trump supporters might think twice when its their father or uncle being arrested and booted out of the country.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:35:04am

♫ Syphilis ♫
♫ It all started with a simple kiss ♫
♫ Now it hurts even to take a piss ♫
♫ Oh why do I have Syphilis? ♫

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sagehen  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:35:11am

re: #335 Hecuba’s daughter

For years I have been in favor of sending Pharmaceutical CEOs to prison. They deliberately created this crisis; doctors are usually useless in understanding the effects of medication; they rely on lying pharmaceutical reps. Unless people at the top of these firms suffer real financial and personal consequences for their depravity, it will continue. I’m in favor of sending them to prison for life, just like a member of the drug cartels, and stripping their families of all assets

In China, they execute them. And televise it.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:35:16am

re: #355 Big Beautiful Door

If they are going to destroy families, I want them going after whites just as much as Hispanics and Africans. Some Trump supporters might think twice when its their father or uncle being arrested and booted out of the country.

I doubt it would make them think. But I do hear ya.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:37:05am

Ann Curry’s got a neat looking new show on PBS. We’ll Meet Again about people who positively impacted another’s life reuniting with the person who did. Think a 9/11 EMT reuniting with someone they saved or a soldier reuniting with a civilian they helped in Vietnam. I’ll definitely give it a watch.

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sagehen  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:38:42am

re: #359 HappyWarrior

Ann Curry’s got a neat looking new show on PBS. We’ll Meet Again about people who positively impacted another’s life reuniting with the person who did. Think a 9/11 EMT reuniting with someone they saved or a soldier reuniting with a civilian they helped in Vietnam. I’ll definitely give it a watch.

The one I’ve been seeing ads for is a little girl who was sent to Manzanar, who hasn’t seen her pre-internment best friend since the first grade…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:39:09am

re: #329 Jay C

OK: not to take away from the indubitable fact that there has to be SOMETHING hinky going on with painkiller distribution in Floyd Cty, KY, that figure of “477 pills per person” is slightly misleading, as that seems to be over a seven-year period (2010-16): or 68 pills per person per year. Still seems off, though.

If EVERYBODY was on them, that might make sense, but we are counting children, babies and otherwise healthy people

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:39:34am

re: #360 sagehen

The one I’ve been seeing ads for is a little girl who was sent to Manzanar, who hasn’t seen her pre-internment best friend since the first grade…

Wow, I haven’t seen that ad yet.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:40:14am

re: #337 Interesting Times

What do you expect from a nation where people eat Tide Pods? -_-

He had principles, even if you did not agree with them and he had some background in public service.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:40:33am

re: #301 HappyWarrior

I’m waiting for them to attempt to purge anyone who worked in DOJ, DOS, etc in Obama’s administration. Didn’t Trump want to revise civil service laws? But yeah “Crooked Hillary.”

FBI Director Wray threatened to resign when he got pressure to fire Andrew McCabe.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:42:16am

re: #364 Big Beautiful Door

FBI Director Wray threatened to resign when he got pressure to fire Andrew McCabe.

McCabe’s wife is the one that Trump loves to talk about. Trump acts like it’s so shocking that McAuliffe, a Clinton ally would donate heavily to someone running in the State Senates here especially against a bigoted crank like Dick Black. I plan to work on that state senate campaign next year. I don’t know if Dr. McCabe will run again but she was a good candidate.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:45:15am

re: #343 FormerDirtDart

Is it the actual guys? OK, I’ve seen the ads and thought ‘man, looks like they cast doppelgangers’

I have to say, that’s a damned interesting casting choice on Eastwood’s part.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:45:43am

heh

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A Mom Anon  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:47:38am

re: #351 HappyWarrior

It’s not going to get better for awhile. But, the upside to all these slimy things coming out from under the rocks is we can ID them for sure now and make them miserable directly. Plus, it is a bit satisfying to see Nazis cry and run like babies when confronted and outnumbered. Not ideal, wish we didn’t have to deal with FUCKING NAZIS in 2018, but here we are. We can drive them back under the rocks it just takes time, my biggest fear is more violence and attacks on public places. We have to be vigilant and watch the bastards.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:47:59am

re: #329 Jay C

OK: not to take away from the indubitable fact that there has to be SOMETHING hinky going on with painkiller distribution in Floyd Cty, KY, that figure of “477 pills per person” is slightly misleading, as that seems to be over a seven-year period (2010-16): or 68 pills per person per year. Still seems off, though.

68 opiod pills for every single person in the County, most of whom presumably don’t need prescription opiod painkillers. That is definitely off.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:48:10am

re: #366 Dr Lizardo

I have to say, that’s a damned interesting casting choice on Eastwood’s part.

He makes good movies. He’s a bit of a curmudgeon in his old age but I like Clint and his movies.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:48:59am

re: #367 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh

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My brother has studied the Massai people. Met some of them on his trip to Africa a few years back.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:49:55am

re: #368 A Mom Anon

It’s not going to get better for awhile. But, the upside to all these slimy things coming out from under the rocks is we can ID them for sure now and make them miserable directly. Plus, it is a bit satisfying to see Nazis cry and run like babies when confronted and outnumbered. Not ideal, wish we didn’t have to deal with FUCKING NAZIS in 2018, but here we are. We can drive them back under the rocks it just takes time, my biggest fear is more violence and attacks on public places. We have to be vigilant and watch the bastards.

I agree. I just miss the days where Nazis were fringe and now we have Spencer’s protege as the President’s go to the guy on immigration issues.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:50:24am
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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:50:39am

re: #337 Interesting Times

What do you expect from a nation where people eat Tide Pods? -_-

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It helps his rating a lot that he’s not Donald Trump, who makes the second worst President in history look like a moral giant in comparison.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:52:28am
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Citizen K  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:53:07am

re: #369 Big Beautiful Door

68 opiod pills for every single person in the County, most of whom presumably don’t need prescription opiod painkillers. That is definitely off.

Precisely. That’s still a large amount once you account for the fact that it doesn’t reflect how further concentrated the number is to the actual users.

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makeitstop  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:54:34am

re: #332 HappyWarrior

We need to do a PR battle on behalf of the DREAMers. Wheat had a great idea last night about using DREAMers who have served with distinction in the armed forces with the simple message “I served to protect you, will you protect me?”

That’d be me.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:55:13am

re: #377 makeitstop

That’d be me.

Oops sorry man.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:55:47am

re: #366 Dr Lizardo

I have to say, that’s a damned interesting casting choice on Eastwood’s part.

We’ll see if they can act well enough to make it work.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:56:07am

re: #370 HappyWarrior

He makes good movies. He’s a bit of a curmudgeon in his old age but I like Clint and his movies.

Hell, I might not agree with Clint on much politically, but I’d jump at the chance to work with him. He’s one of hell of a director, one of the best, IMHO.

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Citizen K  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:56:17am

re: #332 HappyWarrior

We need to do a PR battle on behalf of the DREAMers. Wheat had a great idea last night about using DREAMers who have served with distinction in the armed forces with the simple message “I served to protect you, will you protect me?”

The scary thing about that is that it’ll put a large red bullseye for the DoJ and ICE to go after whoever appears in those ads.

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A Mom Anon  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:56:46am

re: #372 HappyWarrior

True, but Miller is just as punchable as Spencer, lol. He’s not irreplaceable and it’s only a matter of time before he’s out of the White House cocoon. I’m hoping Mueller has enough dirt on him that won’t wash off easy.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:57:03am

re: #381 Citizen K

The scary thing about that is that it’ll put a large red bullseye for the DoJ and ICE to go after whoever appears in those ads.

That is true unfortunately.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:57:33am

Mitch can just sit down and STFU

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:58:49am

re: #380 Dr Lizardo

Hell, I might not agree with Clint on much politically, but I’d jump at the chance to work with him. He’s one of hell of a director, one of the best, IMHO.

He’s really not even that right wing. That’s what made his RNC thing all the more odd. He’s pro choice, pro LGBT, believes in climate change, supports reasonable gun laws, etc. I still have him playing my grandpa in a movie that never gets made. Both Korean vets. Clint would have to put on some pounds though and learn the Western Pa accent too :).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:59:02am
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makeitstop  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:59:13am

re: #378 HappyWarrior

Oops sorry man.

No worries. I come up with a good idea every once in a while. :)

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:59:20am

re: #382 A Mom Anon

True, but Miller is just as punchable as Spencer, lol. He’s not irreplaceable and it’s only a matter of time before he’s out of the White House cocoon. I’m hoping Mueller has enough dirt on him that won’t wash off easy.

That’s true. Man Miller makes me ill.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:59:21am

re: #380 Dr Lizardo

Hell, I might not agree with Clint on much politically, but I’d jump at the chance to work with him. He’s one of hell of a director, one of the best, IMHO.

If you noticed, the ads for Hostiles are billing it as the best Western since “Unforgiven”, a movie Clint made 26 years ago.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2018 • 10:59:57am

re: #387 makeitstop

No worries. I come up with a good idea every once in a while. :)

It erally does humanize them and they desrve that. They’re Americans in all but name.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 23, 2018 • 11:00:21am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2018 • 11:00:27am

re: #389 Big Beautiful Door

If you noticed, the ads for Hostiles are billing it as the best Western since “Unforgiven”, a movie Clint made 26 years ago.

You know what was a good Western was that Hell or High Water. I really enjoyed that one.

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dangerman  Jan 23, 2018 • 11:00:29am

re: #341 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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here’s a take from electoral-vote.com

- Ex-presidents are no longer on the front line of tough, emotionally-fraught political battles
- Ex-presidents can pick their spots, like denouncing white supremacists (as Obama and Bush both did)
- The issues that hurt the exes start to fade in memory—there can’t be much anger left about, say, Valerie Plame
- After leaving the White House, personality starts to loom much larger, and most presidents not named Nixon are basically pretty likable fellows…

Of course, in addition to all of these things, the rising popularity of these two exes is also a repudiation of Donald Trump

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 23, 2018 • 11:01:57am

re: #389 Big Beautiful Door

If you noticed, the ads for Hostiles are billing it as the best Western since “Unforgiven”, a movie Clint made 26 years ago.

That’s saying something - Unforgiven is a masterpiece of the Western genre.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 23, 2018 • 11:02:17am

re: #382 A Mom Anon

True, but Miller is just as punchable as Spencer, lol. He’s not irreplaceable and it’s only a matter of time before he’s out of the White House cocoon. I’m hoping Mueller has enough dirt on him that won’t wash off easy.

I don’t think the Bannonites had much to do with the Russia scam, however. Its the Trumps and the Kushners, with their long history of money laundering for Russian mobsters and oligarchs, who have the most to fear. In Fire and Fury Bannon kept saying he’s never been to Russia, doesn’t know any Russians and never took any meetings with Russians.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 23, 2018 • 11:02:36am

re: #84 Big Beautiful Door

So you do you think Trump has been banging in the Oval Office: Hope Hicks, Nikki Haley, or both of them? I’m guessing both, though probably not at the same time.

Trump has no loyalty to anyone but himself so it could be any woman (including ones we don’t know). I guess Melania decided long ago that living a glamorous life was more important than a faithful, loving husband. Sad.

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TedStriker  Jan 23, 2018 • 11:03:25am

re: #370 HappyWarrior

He makes good movies. He’s a bit of a curmudgeon in his old age but I like Clint and his movies.

re: #380 Dr Lizardo

Hell, I might not agree with Clint on much politically, but I’d jump at the chance to work with him. He’s one of hell of a director, one of the best, IMHO.

Same here.

Eastwood, like Ron Howard, is one of the few directors whose CV has been pretty damn consistent on quality for decades.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2018 • 11:03:29am

re: #395 Big Beautiful Door

I don’t think the Bannonites had much to do with the Russia scam, however. Its the Trumps and the Kushners, with their long history of money laundering for Russian mobsters and oligarchs, who have the most to fear. In Fire and Fury Bannon kept saying he’s never been to Russia, doesn’t know any Russians and never took any meetings with Russians.

I actually do believe that. I think Bannon and his people might praise Putin and Russia but they would be too smart politically to get involved directly.

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dangerman  Jan 23, 2018 • 11:03:47am

re: #363 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He had principles, even if you did not agree with them and he had some background in public service.

and for the most part, he accepted the system, the norms, the standards, the behavior, the dos and donts, and worked within them

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2018 • 11:04:51am

re: #397 TedStriker

Same here.

Eastwood, like Ron Howard, is one of the few directors whose CV has been pretty damn consistent on quality for decades.

Yeah both of them are good examples of actors turned directors. In fact, I like Clint more as a director than actor because he’s more versatile on that end. Not that I don’t like Clint’s acting mind you but he’s an excellent story teller.

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Jay C  Jan 23, 2018 • 11:05:04am

re: #393 dangerman

here’s a take from electoral-vote.com

The issues that hurt the exes start to fade in memory—there can’t be much anger left about, say, Valerie Plame

Except that when it comes to GW Bush, the main “issue” he was responsible for - starting a bloody, destructive war in Iraq - hasn’t faded (and shouldn’t be allowed to). That is something he should NEVER be forgiven for: however Presidential he might appear in retrospect compared to Trump: even considering that that is an abominably low bar to hurdle…

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2018 • 11:05:46am

re: #399 dangerman

and for the most part, he accepted the system, the norms, the standards, the behavior, the dos and donts, and worked within them

For me, the reason why I prefer Bush over Trump is simple, I think Bush respected his ideological opponents and wouldn’t demean them. Trump? Not a chance in hell. The latter btw is why Trump’s base adores him.

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A Mom Anon  Jan 23, 2018 • 11:06:14am

re: #395 Big Beautiful Door

True, but if Miller is on the inside, he may be implicated in other things besides his racist immigration “advice” he’s giving Cheetolini. Or he could end up being a turncoat and witness for the prosecution. No one in this administration is clean, especially those closest to Donnie Two Scoops

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2018 • 11:06:31am

re: #401 Jay C

Except when it comes to GW Bush, the main “issue” he was responsible for - starting a bloody, destructive war in Iraq - hasn’t faded (and shouldn’t be allowed to). That is something he should NEVER be forgiven for: however Presidential he might appear in retrospect compared to Trump: even considering that that is an abominably low bar to hurdle…

And that’s true too. I may be able to be civil to GW Bush would I ever meet him ut he’s got a lot of sins in his presidency.

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dangerman  Jan 23, 2018 • 11:08:36am

re: #381 Citizen K

The scary thing about that is that it’ll put a large red bullseye for the DoJ and ICE to go after whoever appears in those ads.

as long as we’re spitballing…

it would be best to be able to stand up and show their faces of course

still it could probably be done without specifically identifying them
and maybe use that as a point - “if i showed my face, they’d come for me”

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 23, 2018 • 11:08:44am

re: #403 A Mom Anon

True, but if Miller is on the inside, he may be implicated in other things besides his racist immigration “advice” he’s giving Cheetolini. Or he could end up being a turncoat and witness for the prosecution. No one in this administration is clean, especially those closest to Donnie Two Scoops

One can only hope. Given his close association with Neo-Nazis, this is the only Administration in which Miller could possibly get a job, and with all the people who have already left the West Wing, he’s now one of the highest ranking officials there. Despicable.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2018 • 11:09:04am

Honestly the way Trump acts really does remind me of a certain Austrian corporal. The rages, delusions of brilliance, & of course the nativism. Oh and certain someone also liked using government for self enrichment.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2018 • 11:10:14am

re: #406 Big Beautiful Door

One can only hope. Given his close association with Neo-Nazis, this is the only Administration in which Miller could possibly get a job, and with all the people who have already left the West Wing, he’s now one of the highest ranking officials there. Despicable.

Let’s hope so. I can’t believe he’s barely a couple years older than I am.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 23, 2018 • 11:10:51am

re: #405 dangerman

re: #381 Citizen K

The scary thing about that is that it’ll put a large red bullseye for the DoJ and ICE to go after whoever appears in those ads.

How about this-Go to Tijuana, maybe Juarez and talk to some already deported. Get footage for a commercial/ mini doc.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 23, 2018 • 11:10:58am

re: #407 HappyWarrior

Honestly the way Trump acts really does remind me of a certain Austrian corporal. The rages, delusions of brilliance, & of course the nativism. Oh and certain someone also liked using government for self enrichment.

The differences are large though. Hitler had a lot of energy and a clear vision for what he wanted to accomplish. Trump is an ignorant, lazy, racist lump being manipulated by evil people.

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jaunte  Jan 23, 2018 • 11:12:59am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2018 • 11:13:58am

re: #410 Big Beautiful Door

The differences are large though. Hitler had a lot of energy and a clear vision for what he wanted to accomplish. Trump is an ignorant, lazy, racist lump being manipulated by evil people.

That’s true too

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dangerman  Jan 23, 2018 • 11:16:59am

re: #401 Jay C

Except that when it comes to GW Bush, the main “issue” he was responsible for - starting a bloody, destructive war in Iraq - hasn’t faded (and shouldn’t be allowed to). That is something he should NEVER be forgiven for: however Presidential he might appear in retrospect compared to Trump: even considering that that is an abominably low bar to hurdle…

i do not disagree at all

i think the polling makes it confusing because whoever they are getting to answer today is giving their “today’s impression”. so they arent evaluating him on just how he was as president…

overall….whatever. its just a cnn poll

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Citizen K  Jan 23, 2018 • 11:17:06am

re: #410 Big Beautiful Door

The differences are large though. Hitler had a lot of energy and a clear vision for what he wanted to accomplish. Trump is an ignorant, lazy, racist lump being manipulated by evil people.

I mean….that said, I think we overestimate how much he’s actually being manipulated into evil. A lot of it doesn’t seem to take much actual pushing. A lot is just him surrounding himself with people who will tell him what he’s already convinced himself on.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 23, 2018 • 11:18:05am

JFC

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A Mom Anon  Jan 23, 2018 • 11:19:02am

re: #410 Big Beautiful Door

My biggest hope here though is that lack of focus and unity to reach a goal. They have no real plan, it’s more about breaking things. You can only loot and plunder so much before there’s blowback. I’m under no illusions that this will be easy and that no one will get hurt. The Nazis have made strides towards seeming normalcy. Our job is to keep making sure they don’t get to sweep who they are under the rug.

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JC1  Jan 23, 2018 • 11:19:16am

re: #134 Unshaken Defiance

This is a revolting development.
Microsoft’s chip security fix is turning some PCs into bricks

Gotta get a couple of these.

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The story is 2 weeks old; the patch was pulled shortly after the flaw was discovered. It only affected very old CPUs.
Although Microsoft blamed AMD’s documentation, the fault for this mess up is clearly Microsoft’s. They’re a 600 Billion dollar software company; their QA department should be able to sanity test every CPU capable of running Windows.

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dangerman  Jan 23, 2018 • 11:20:08am

re: #415 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC

2/ “At Netanyahu’s office on Monday morning, a visiting female journalist from Finland’s state television was asked to remove her bra during an overly zealous and demeaning security check. When she refused, she was prevented from covering Pence’s news conference with Netanyahu.”

well Finland is not, you know, Norway, so…

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2018 • 11:20:12am

re: #415 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC

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But but Islam. Seriously screw Bibi and Pence.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 23, 2018 • 11:20:34am
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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 23, 2018 • 11:21:49am

re: #414 Citizen K

I mean….that said, I think we overestimate how much he’s actually being manipulated into evil. A lot of it doesn’t seem to take much actual pushing. A lot is just him surrounding himself with people who will tell him what he’s already convinced himself on.

Well for example, Trump knows less than zero about healthcare and would’ve signed anything Congress would’ve passed even if it broke all of his promises because he just didn’t care. He would’ve been happy to sign a Medicare for all bill; all he wanted was a signing ceremony so he could “win.”

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dangerman  Jan 23, 2018 • 11:23:01am

re: #415 Backwoods_Sleuth

psst:

so we’re in a lull and you’re keeping busy posting stuff here
we’re metaphorically pacing back and forth with you

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jaunte  Jan 23, 2018 • 11:23:50am
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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 23, 2018 • 11:24:30am

re: #421 Big Beautiful Door

Well for example, Trump knows less than zero about healthcare and would’ve signed anything Congress would’ve passed even if it broke all of his promises because he just didn’t care. He would’ve been happy to sign a Medicare for all bill; all he wanted was a signing ceremony so he could “win.”

Trump lies about everything and his imbecile supporters agree with any position he asserts today, no matter how it contradicts his previous policies

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 23, 2018 • 11:26:05am

re: #422 dangerman

psst:

so we’re in a lull and you’re keeping busy posting stuff here
we’re metaphorically pacing back and forth with you

***whispers back to you:
it’s still early into the surgery…gonna be a long afternoon***

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 23, 2018 • 11:26:26am

re: #410 Big Beautiful Door

The differences are large though. Hitler had a lot of energy and a clear vision for what he wanted to accomplish. Trump is an ignorant, lazy, racist lump being manipulated by evil people.

and he served his country and did not fake bone spurs

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 23, 2018 • 11:27:27am

re: #423 jaunte

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he signed it

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jaunte  Jan 23, 2018 • 11:29:24am

re: #427 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m sure that will make Robert Murray happy.
Not sure how that helps us get South Korea’s help with Kim Jong Un.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 23, 2018 • 11:30:10am

re: #416 A Mom Anon

My biggest hope here though is that lack of focus and unity to reach a goal. They have no real plan, it’s more about breaking things. You can only loot and plunder so much before there’s blowback. I’m under no illusions that this will be easy and that no one will get hurt. The Nazis have made strides towards seeming normalcy. Our job is to keep making sure they don’t get to sweep who they are under the rug.

I don’t see much more legislation passing. The big problems are that the agencies are being run by ideologues dedicated to evil, a bunch of extreme rightwingers are getting judicial appointments that will last for decades, and Trump doesn’t have a fucking clue about what he is doing in the global arena, so he could easily stumble into a war.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 23, 2018 • 11:30:44am

Well, time to call it a day. Have a good one, Lizards.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 23, 2018 • 11:30:56am

re: #415 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC

Laffy
@GottaLaff
“This is not the first time a female journalist attempting to cover a formal event with the Israeli prime minister has been asked to strip. An Al Jazeera journalist was also asked to remove her bra at an event in 2011.”



Laffy
@GottaLaff
2/ “At Netanyahu’s office on Monday morning, a visiting female journalist from Finland’s state television was asked to remove her bra during an overly zealous and demeaning security check. When she refused, she was prevented from covering Pence’s news conference with Netanyahu.”
12:48 PM - Jan 23, 2018
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This seems more like a Netanyahu issue than a Pence issue. Netanyahu is a dishonest creep who relies on the ultraorthodox to keep him in power.

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Belafon  Jan 23, 2018 • 11:31:18am

re: #425 Backwoods_Sleuth

My mother had open heart surgery a few years ago. One of the complications was that the anesthesia wiped her short term memory. She would wake up, panicked about why she was in the hospital. The doctors said it was a very uncommon reaction to the particular anesthesia she was on.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 23, 2018 • 11:32:25am

re: #427 Backwoods_Sleuth

he signed it

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Like I said upthread the WTO sanctions on this are going to be massive. The international community is getting fed up with Trump’s bullshit and he just gave Germany, Canada, South Korea and China a golden opportunity to beat the shit out of him in court.

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Belafon  Jan 23, 2018 • 11:32:28am

re: #427 Backwoods_Sleuth

he signed it

That ought to actually piss off a number of big businesses, such as Walmart.

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allegro  Jan 23, 2018 • 11:32:38am

re: #425 Backwoods_Sleuth

***whispers back to you:
it’s still early into the surgery…gonna be a long afternoon***

As horrible as it is hanging around and worrying in a hospital waiting room, it’s gotta be even worse being so far away.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 23, 2018 • 11:33:17am

re: #434 Belafon

That ought to actually piss off a number of big businesses, such as Walmart.

Who are some of the biggest employers in Trump Country.

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A Mom Anon  Jan 23, 2018 • 11:33:50am

re: #429 Big Beautiful Door

The gutting of agencies and services is going to do the most damage to the most people. That pisses me off to no end. I shudder to think what will be uncovered once this shitshow is over and actual civil service workers get back in place.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 23, 2018 • 11:36:15am

re: #437 A Mom Anon

The gutting of agencies and services is going to do the most damage to the most people. That pisses me off to no end. I shudder to think what will be uncovered once this shitshow is over and actual civil service workers get back in place.

I am starting to think that every month of the Trump administration will cost us a year to recover from fully.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 23, 2018 • 11:36:32am

January 31 there is going to be a lunar eclipse, which will turn the Moon red. Its also a “blue moon” and a “super moon.” Prepare for the End Times!!!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 23, 2018 • 11:38:47am

re: #439 Big Beautiful Door

January 31 there is going to be a lunar eclipse, which will turn the Moon red. Its also a “blue moon” and a “super moon.” Prepare for the End Times!!!

The greatest moon ever, thank you, Mr President!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 23, 2018 • 11:40:12am
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jaunte  Jan 23, 2018 • 11:40:54am

“…The move punishes Samsung, which recently began washer production in South Carolina, and LG, which is building a washer factory in Tennessee.

“This tariff is a tax on every consumer who wants to buy a washing machine. Everyone will pay more, with fewer choices,” Samsung said in a statement.

LG Electronics said that the decision will hinder the ramp-up and employment prospects of its new plant, which will not begin production until late 2018 or early 2019.

Trump ignored a recommendation from the ITC to exclude South Korean-produced washers from LG from the tariffs, as prior anti-dumping duties on these machines have been dropped. The decision could also hurt retailer Sears Holdings, whose Kenmore brand sources its larger washers from LG’s overseas factories.
reuters.com

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dangerman  Jan 23, 2018 • 11:41:31am

re: #439 Big Beautiful Door

January 31 there is going to be a lunar eclipse, which will turn the Moon red. Its also a “blue moon” and a “super moon.” Prepare for the End Times!!!

If you take the red moon…
However if you take the blue one….

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Stanley Sea  Jan 23, 2018 • 11:42:13am

re: #442 jaunte

Everything he touches dies

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Mike Lamb  Jan 23, 2018 • 11:43:06am

re: #427 Backwoods_Sleuth

he signed it

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Protectionist tariffs…that gets back to around Hoover. That’s just a hop, skip, and a jump from the Victorian Age…

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dangerman  Jan 23, 2018 • 11:44:16am

re: #441 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“Wins”?

This isn’t an effing game

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 23, 2018 • 11:44:30am

re: #223 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Hope the inheritance is fair compensation for her soul.

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Belafon  Jan 23, 2018 • 11:45:04am

re: #442 jaunte

So, he straight up signed the type of order that you hear old men argue is necessary at the local barber shop.

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Belafon  Jan 23, 2018 • 11:45:51am

re: #445 Mike Lamb

Protectionist tariffs…that gets back to around Hoover. That’s just a hop, skip, and a jump from the Victorian Age…

I was thinking the Great Depression, but we can go with yours.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 23, 2018 • 11:47:09am

re: #449 Belafon

I was thinking the Great Depression, but we can go with yours.

Wasn’t our Civil War all about protectionist tariffs? (I have been told it was not about slavery)

/

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 23, 2018 • 11:48:05am
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Patricia Kayden  Jan 23, 2018 • 11:49:25am

re: #438 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“I am starting to think that every month of the Trump administration will cost us a year to recover from fully.”

And it has only been one year. It feels like he’s been in office for years. Sigh.

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jaunte  Jan 23, 2018 • 11:50:42am

re: #448 Belafon

We’ll now (in the magical internal world of Trumpian conservatives) return to the social policies of the 1920s with the US economy of the 1950s competing with the world economy of the 1930s.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 23, 2018 • 11:53:10am

re: #386 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 23, 2018 • 11:54:48am

Yep. Protectionist tariffs—there will be retaliation, I’d wager.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 23, 2018 • 11:55:33am

re: #453 jaunte

We’ll now (in the magical internal world of Trumpian conservatives) return to the social policies of the 1920s with the US economy of the 1950s competing with the world economy of the 1930s.

Of course the major powers in the rest of the world are competing in the 21st Century. Who would have thought that one incompetent ruler with the full participation of the GOP would reduce us to a backwater nation within a year of taking power?

— minor edit

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jaunte  Jan 23, 2018 • 12:00:14pm

re: #456 Hecuba’s daughter

Helped along by fifty years of American indulgence in status quo self-approval vs. learning from other countries.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 23, 2018 • 12:01:21pm

Turkey is attacking Kurdish forces in Syria, in large part due to the Trump Administration’s gross incompetence.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 23, 2018 • 12:02:06pm
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Belafon  Jan 23, 2018 • 12:02:30pm

I wonder if US companies can sue to stop the tariff?

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KGxvi  Jan 23, 2018 • 12:06:17pm

re: #458 Big Beautiful Door

Turkey is attacking Kurdish forces in Syria, in large part due to the Trump Administration’s gross incompetence.

About the only thing a lot of countries in the region seem to agree on is that the Kurdish people should not have their own state (Syria, Turkey, Iran, and Iraq all have an interest in preventing that - they lose territory and oil revenue)

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MsJ  Jan 23, 2018 • 12:06:34pm

re: #441 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Belafon  Jan 23, 2018 • 12:07:24pm

re: #462 MsJ

2/3

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ObserverArt  Jan 23, 2018 • 12:08:41pm

re: #325 A Mom Anon

Sadly, this is but one of many areas around or in Appalachia that have been targeted like this. It’s not just there either. These drug companies and the doctors involved in this are not being held accountable.

Yep, the Ohio counties on the other side of the Ohio river from Kentucky, Brown, Adams and Scioto have the same problem. One of the biggest pill mill doctors in the area was in Portsmouth.

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MsJ  Jan 23, 2018 • 12:08:53pm

re: #463 Belafon

2/3

Oops. My bad.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 23, 2018 • 12:09:36pm

re: #465 MsJ

Oops. My bad.

yes, but your overall point that the yam would veto was valid.

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MsJ  Jan 23, 2018 • 12:10:43pm

re: #465 MsJ

Oops. My bad.

I deleted the original. I had a Rick Perry moment.

I hate when that happens.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2018 • 12:11:59pm

re: #459 FormerDirtDart

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If he had been injured the entire year and awarded this. Would anyone care? He’s still a member of the NFLPA.

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Belafon  Jan 23, 2018 • 12:15:34pm

re: #467 MsJ

I deleted the original. I had a Rick Perry moment.

I hate when that happens.

I have those as well. So many times I only catch an error after hitting post. Your argument did stand. Trump would veto.

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KGxvi  Jan 23, 2018 • 12:17:58pm

re: #468 HappyWarrior

If he had been injured the entire year and awarded this. Would anyone care? He’s still a member of the NFLPA.

JJ Watt is up for the Walter Payton Man of the Year award even though he didn’t play this year due to injury. Kaepernick currently has a claim against the NFL for blackballing him, that’s going to draw a whole hell of a lot more attention.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 23, 2018 • 12:22:47pm

re: #470 KGxvi

JJ Watt is up for the Walter Payton Man of the Year award even though he didn’t play this year due to injury. Kaepernick currently has a claim against the NFL for blackballing him, that’s going to draw a whole hell of a lot more attention.

JJ Watt played in the Texans first five games of the 2017 regular season


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