In Which the Republican Party Continues Trying to Find How Low They Can Possibly Go to Defend Trump

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In all my years watching American politics, I’ve never seen anything like what’s going on with the Republican Party in the era of the Trump-thing. The entire party seems to have given in to the worst kind of paranoid conspiracy-mongering, and lately their targets haven’t been the usual liberal boogeymen like the media or Hollywood — but the federal government itself. Their tactics are very similar to those used by authoritarian governments throughout history, and this type of political bottom feeding never ends well.

There’s a concerted Republican effort underway to smear and discredit the FBI and the Justice Department in order to shield Donald Trump from accountability, as Greg Sargent lays out today: Trump and the great GOP abdication.

Watch the video above to see how all-encompassing this effort is — it’s taking place at every level of the GOP.

Today, I’m told, Sen. Mark Warner (Va.) — the ranking Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee — will publicly say that classified information debunks the arguments reportedly made in the now-notorious secret memo by Rep. Devin Nunes (R-Calif.), which bolsters the idea that the Russia investigation is a Deep-State Coup against Trump. Nunes has made this memo available to members of Congress, in what Democrats charge is a selective cherry-picking of intelligence designed to arm Republicans with talking points to discredit the Russia probe.

“Senator Warner will say publicly that unlike almost all of the 200 GOP congressmen who’ve seen the memo, he has actually read the underlying documents,” Rachel Cohen, a spokeswoman for Warner, emailed me this morning. “He is confident that there was nothing improper like what this memo seems to allege.”

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Kragar  Jan 25, 2018 • 12:02:03pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 25, 2018 • 12:05:00pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 25, 2018 • 12:05:43pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 25, 2018 • 12:07:18pm
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jan 25, 2018 • 12:07:19pm
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S'latch  Jan 25, 2018 • 12:08:16pm

I’m trying to figure out why Grassley is announcing plans to release Trump Jr.’s interview transcript.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 25, 2018 • 12:08:37pm

The whole point of the Mueller investigation is to produce incontrovertible evidence and masses of contradictory and inconsistent sworn statements from high-level witnesses to force Congress to act.

Only way the GOP sees to to disarm him is to discredit the FBI and the entire domestic intelligence community as an investigative body.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2018 • 12:09:38pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

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too late…the rest of the TPP nations have moved on without us, which pretty much says they don’t need us anymore.

#WINNING

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 25, 2018 • 12:10:26pm

re: #8 Backwoods_Sleuth

too late…the rest of the TPP nations have moved on without us, which pretty much says they don’t need us anymore.

#WINNING

and China’s biggest credit rating agency has downgraded US treasury bonds

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petesh  Jan 25, 2018 • 12:10:50pm

re: #8 Backwoods_Sleuth

too late…the rest of the TPP nations have moved on without us, which pretty much says they don’t need us anymore.

#WINNING

Or WANT us …

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Targetpractice  Jan 25, 2018 • 12:11:05pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

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What this says is that Trump expected TPP to fail without US involvement, it has not, so now he’s trying to play the part of spoiler by saying he’ll take part only if they give into his demands.

The response is likely to be a diplomatic version of “Go fuck yourself.”

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petesh  Jan 25, 2018 • 12:12:24pm

re: #9 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and China’s biggest credit rating agency has downgraded US treasury bonds

What is the likely effect of this? China buying less? Is there an effect on the value of the dollar?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2018 • 12:12:32pm
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Targetpractice  Jan 25, 2018 • 12:13:20pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

ESPN puts Nate Silver’s site up for sale

While I like Nate’s analysis, the reality is that he’s only ever really profitable during election season. Most people do not visit his sit regularly for the articles and if you stripped the site down to just the Trump poll tracking, it would probably get about the same amount of traffic.

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Scottish Dragon  Jan 25, 2018 • 12:15:23pm

re: #14 Backwoods_Sleuth

I have enough haggis on hand to make a haggis pocket pastry

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retired cynic  Jan 25, 2018 • 12:16:03pm

re: #16 Scottish Dragon

I have enough haggis on hand to make a haggis pocket pastry

Photo!

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 25, 2018 • 12:16:30pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

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At least not since James Madison.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2018 • 12:16:37pm
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Mike Lamb  Jan 25, 2018 • 12:18:03pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

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Rest of the TPP participants: No thanks, we’re good.

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jaunte  Jan 25, 2018 • 12:18:15pm
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KGxvi  Jan 25, 2018 • 12:18:22pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

Trump is used to negotiating with lots of people who want more than he can offer, so this really won’t be any different than a bankruptcy proceeding and negotiating with creditors. Hopefully this will turn out like the 2009 bankruptcy where he was forced to resign.

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ipsos  Jan 25, 2018 • 12:20:49pm

re: #15 Targetpractice

While I like Nate’s analysis, the reality is that he’s only ever really profitable during election season. Most people do not visit his sit regularly for the articles and if you stripped the site down to just the Trump poll tracking, it would probably get about the same amount of traffic.

Agreed.

Between elections, I tend to forget it’s there, and then when I remember to look at it or see a link posted, my usual reaction leans toward “well, THAT’s a stretch,” especially when it’s someone other than Nate or Harry Enten posting.

And I don’t think the site even did itself all that proud during the last election season.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 25, 2018 • 12:24:00pm

re: #23 ipsos

Agreed.

Between elections, I tend to forget it’s there, and then when I remember to look at it or see a link posted, my usual reaction leans toward “well, THAT’s a stretch,” especially when it’s someone other than Nate or Harry Enten posting.

And I don’t think the site even did itself all that proud during the last election season.

Nate did in 2016 though. He was the only major poll tracking site saying that Trump had a real shot at winning the election, and he got a lot of criticism for it. I go there almost every day; today they have a nifty interactive map showing different ways to draw congressional districts and how it would change competitiveness.

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KGxvi  Jan 25, 2018 • 12:25:53pm

Vince McMahon just held a press conference to announce the return of the XFL in 2020. Among the stuff he said (no WWE cross-over, he won’t be a public face for the league), he mentioned that he doesn’t want politics in the league and expects players to stand for the anthem. Not sure he realizes that expecting players to stand is, in itself, a political statement.

I wonder how this plays out, it was obviously rushed back in the 90s, and this time they clearly are giving it enough time to lay proper groundwork. But I can still see it crashing and burning before even the first kick off.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 25, 2018 • 12:26:48pm

re: #23 ipsos

Agreed.

Between elections, I tend to forget it’s there, and then when I remember to look at it or see a link posted, my usual reaction leans toward “well, THAT’s a stretch,” especially when it’s someone other than Nate or Harry Enten posting.

And I don’t think the site even did itself all that proud during the last election season.

Honestly, Nate did better than anyone else in 2016. Of the aggregators, he was the only one warning that it wasn’t in the bag for Clinton, as well as warning that the absence of good state-level data made prediction of the EC outcome even harder.

Nate gets shit from a lot of people who don’t understand probability and uncertainty. He caught a lot of flack for being such a Debbie Downer. Nobody likes an oracle that tells you what you don’t want to hear.

You know who REALLY didn’t cover himself in glory? Sam Wang.

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KGxvi  Jan 25, 2018 • 12:28:23pm

re: #24 Big Beautiful Door

Nate did in 2016 though. He was the only major poll tracking site saying that Trump had a real shot at winning the election, and he got a lot of criticism for it. I go there almost every day; today they have a nifty interactive map showing different ways to draw congressional districts and how it would change competitiveness.

Their sports stuff is pretty good too. Very stat heavy, but could be very useful if the Supreme Court strikes down the PASPA… you know, for entertainment purposes only.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 25, 2018 • 12:28:55pm

re: #25 KGxvi

Vince McMahon just held a press conference to announce the return of the XFL in 2020. Among the stuff he said (no WWE cross-over, he won’t be a public face for the league), he mentioned that he doesn’t want politics in the league and expects players to stand for the anthem. Not sure he realizes that expecting players to stand is, in itself, a political statement.

I wonder how this plays out, it was obviously rushed back in the 90s, and this time they clearly are giving it enough time to lay proper groundwork. But I can still see it crashing and burning before even the first kick off.

Like most folks who see themselves and their views as the default, he can’t grasp that requiring ‘No Politics’ is political.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 25, 2018 • 12:29:23pm

re: #24 Big Beautiful Door

Nate did in 2016 though. He was the only major poll tracking site saying that Trump had a real shot at winning the election, and he got a lot of criticism for it. I go there almost every day; today they have a nifty interactive map showing different ways to draw congressional districts and how it would change competitiveness.

Michael Moore also had it pegged, I always considered him a bit of a gadfly but he explained months in advance how Trump could and would win: Just by carrying all the states that Romney won in 2012 (a shoo-in) plus the run-down industrial states of PA, MI, WI and OH.

Which he did, heck, as Moore pointed out, Trump did not even need to win Florida.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 25, 2018 • 12:29:28pm

re: #25 KGxvi

Vince McMahon just held a press conference to announce the return of the XFL in 2020. Among the stuff he said (no WWE cross-over, he won’t be a public face for the league), he mentioned that he doesn’t want politics in the league and expects players to stand for the anthem. Not sure he realizes that expecting players to stand is, in itself, a political statement.

I wonder how this plays out, it was obviously rushed back in the 90s, and this time they clearly are giving it enough time to lay proper groundwork. But I can still see it crashing and burning before even the first kick off.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 25, 2018 • 12:29:47pm

re: #27 KGxvi

Their sports stuff is pretty good too. Very stat heavy, but could be very useful if the Supreme Court strikes down the PASPA… you know, for entertainment purposes only.

I agree. As a stats geek, 538 and Bill James online are two of my favorite websites (after LGF, of course).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2018 • 12:30:10pm
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KGxvi  Jan 25, 2018 • 12:31:02pm

re: #30 Stanley Sea

On LeBatard’s show this morning they were saying the first game being Manzel vs Tebow would be the way to go. But two years is a long time. Manzel might be a hero in Canada by then, and Tebow could be playing left field for the Mets.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 25, 2018 • 12:32:07pm

re: #32 Backwoods_Sleuth

Something something about when you’re attacking the FBI you’re losing something

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makeitstop  Jan 25, 2018 • 12:32:11pm

re: #6 S’latch

I’m trying to figure out why Grassley is announcing plans to release Trump Jr.’s interview transcript.

I asked the same thing earlier. My guess is there’s some aspect of the testimony that will taint some other aspect of the testimony, which will in turn stop Mueller from getting to Babyhands.

That’s the only angle I can think of. He’s setting up to get Trump off on a technicality.

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KGxvi  Jan 25, 2018 • 12:32:44pm

re: #31 Big Beautiful Door

I agree. As a stats geek, 538 and Bill James online are two of my favorite websites (after LGF, of course).

My eyes tend to glaze over with a lot of their stat stuff (I prefer less math in my sports), but I check them out from time to time to see what they’re saying about trends, again for, you know, entertainment purposes only

(I’m going to be really disappointed if there’s not a sports betting blog called For Entertainment Purposes Only)

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 25, 2018 • 12:33:04pm

re: #33 KGxvi

On LeBatard’s show this morning they were saying the first game being Manzel vs Tebow would be the way to go. But two years is a long time. Manzel might be a hero in Canada by then, and Tebow could be playing left field for the Mets.

The Mets will be a disaster area if Tebow is a regular in their lineup.

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KGxvi  Jan 25, 2018 • 12:33:40pm

re: #37 Big Beautiful Door

The Mets will be a disaster area if Tebow is a regular in their lineup.

How would that be any different than almost any other year in Mets history?

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MsJ  Jan 25, 2018 • 12:34:10pm

re: #6 S’latch

I’m trying to figure out why Grassley is announcing plans to release Trump Jr.’s interview transcript.

Yeah. I trust him as far as I could throw a Buick.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 25, 2018 • 12:34:15pm

re: #33 KGxvi

On LeBatard’s show this morning they were saying the first game being Manzel vs Tebow would be the way to go. But two years is a long time. Manzel might be a hero in Canada by then, and Tebow could be playing left field for the Mets.

Tebow playing Left Field?????

What Would Jay-Zuss Say??????

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gocart mozart  Jan 25, 2018 • 12:34:35pm
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S'latch  Jan 25, 2018 • 12:36:27pm

re: #35 makeitstop

I’m not sure about that since Feinstein said she was “delighted” by Grassley’s intentions.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2018 • 12:36:38pm

Jim is being swarmed by berners today.

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KGxvi  Jan 25, 2018 • 12:39:52pm

re: #42 S’latch

I’m not sure about that since Feinstein said she was “delighted” by Grassley’s intentions.

The Dems wanted to turn over the transcripts to Mueller. Making them public gives the wingularity time to spin so fast it’ll create a supernova. But since Trump Jr hasn’t shown he’s any smarter than his dad, my guess is whatever is in that transcript isn’t going to help the Trump cause.

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makeitstop  Jan 25, 2018 • 12:40:16pm

re: #42 S’latch

I’m not sure about that since Feinstein said she was “delighted” by Grassley’s intentions.

I hadn’t heard that.

Still don’t trust him.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2018 • 12:40:58pm
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lawhawk  Jan 25, 2018 • 12:41:14pm

Apropos of Charles’ take on the state of politics:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2018 • 12:41:55pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 25, 2018 • 12:43:35pm

re: #47 lawhawk

Apropos of Charles’ take on the state of politics:

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LOVE IT!

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lawhawk  Jan 25, 2018 • 12:44:28pm

re: #48 Backwoods_Sleuth

The Kansas SOS website was awful, and remains awful for anyone trying to do business in the state, but Kobach thinks that he should be entitled to all kinds of private data in furtherance of disenfranchising millions across the nation.

He is among the worst of the worst.

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ipsos  Jan 25, 2018 • 12:44:34pm

re: #49 Big Beautiful Door

LOVE IT!

At least two of us on the previous thread have taken our own Trumps on that very gold toilet when it was on exhibit last year.

I’ll spare everyone my pictures and see myself out the side door…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2018 • 12:46:24pm
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Alephnaught  Jan 25, 2018 • 12:46:28pm

re: #14 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Tweet] “Doing Burns dinner tomorrow […]”

Oh for flip’s sake, tomorrow? We’re pretty much done over here in Scotland.

Ahem, anyway. Here’s the official Burns Museum rendition (every 15 mins during the day!) of Tam O’ Shanter, read by Brian Cox.

Tam o’Shanter

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MsJ  Jan 25, 2018 • 12:47:01pm

Not posting a link to this but Gossip Coop had this headline:

Dakota Johnson’s Dad NOT “Suspicious” Of Chris Martin, Despite Report

Poor Don Johnson. You were The Big Shit once, long, long ago.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 25, 2018 • 12:47:15pm

re: #32 Backwoods_Sleuth

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ObserverArt  Jan 25, 2018 • 12:48:39pm

re: #33 KGxvi

On LeBatard’s show this morning they were saying the first game being Manzel vs Tebow would be the way to go. But two years is a long time. Manzel might be a hero in Canada by then, and Tebow could be playing left field for the Mets.

Oh gawd. Well, might as well start off with the Overhyped Bowl. And then call it quits after that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2018 • 12:48:46pm

re: #53 Alephnaught

Oh for flip’s sake, tomorrow? We’re pretty much done over here in Scotland.

Ahem, anyway. Here’s the official Burns Museum rendition (every 15 mins during the day!) of Tam O’ Shanter, read by Brian Cox.

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Del is just procrastinating, he does his special meals on Fridays.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 25, 2018 • 12:51:55pm
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lawhawk  Jan 25, 2018 • 12:52:51pm

re: #52 Backwoods_Sleuth

Just days after the latest mass shooting at a school (50th shooting at a school of the 2017-2018 school year; 20+ since start of January).

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 25, 2018 • 12:53:51pm

re: #55 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

He’ll end up hanging with the Aryan Nation types. Shave his head, get some ‘1488’ and swastika tats.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2018 • 12:54:45pm

more on that Dayton KY incident:

DAYTON, Ky. — A police officer made a “mistake” when he left a patrol rifle unattended near a sidewalk as police responded to a domestic situation, Dayton Police Chief David Halfhill said.

Dayton and Bellevue police officers responded to the 1000 block of 5th Avenue Wednesday afternoon after a man came out of a home and fired a round into the air, Halfhill said. At some point, an officer from “another agency” set his rifle against a car, according to Dayton police.

Halfhill thanked Dayton residents who brought the incident to the police department’s attention and said the “mistake will be fully investigated.”

“It is unfortunate that this incident happened, but we as police officers are human and do make mistakes,” Halfhill said in a news release.

But who was responsible for leaving the rifle? While Dayton police said an officer from “another agency” left the rifle, Bellevue police said it was a Dayton officer who was responsible.

JFC

But it was just a “mistake” y’all….

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Kragar  Jan 25, 2018 • 12:55:21pm
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KGxvi  Jan 25, 2018 • 12:56:31pm

re: #61 Backwoods_Sleuth

Sadly, not the first time something like this has happened. And remember, these are the people who apparently have training to handle these things responsibly.

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Archangelus  Jan 25, 2018 • 12:56:44pm

OT but interested in more opinions in the wake of what turned into an absurd debate over this with friends -

Is this something you’d want to see when passing by/entering an airport duty-free bookstore an hour before boarding a flight?

Cause my vote remains a solid NOPE…

(Photo taken in the UK during my last vacation a month and a half ago)

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 25, 2018 • 12:58:48pm

re: #64 Archangelus

OT but interested in more opinions in the wake of what turned into an absurd debate over this with friends -

Is this something you’d want to see when passing by/entering an airport duty-free bookstore an hour before boarding a flight?

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Cause my vote remains a solid NOPE…

(Photo taken in the UK during my last vacation a month and a half ago)

There’s a scene in ‘Airplane’, where the in-flight movie is of fiery plane crashes.

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dangerman  Jan 25, 2018 • 12:59:25pm

re: #61 Backwoods_Sleuth

more on that Dayton KY incident:

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JFC

But it was just a “mistake” y’all….

once again:
you lose control of your weapon you face criminal and civil charges and lose your 2a rights forever

a discharge, let alone hitting someone, is NOT required for you to have lost control

you have demonstrated that you are not responsible enough to keep, bear, own, manage, carry, etc a gun

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 25, 2018 • 12:59:26pm

re: #58 Charles Johnson

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So many insane replies to Sheryl with an “a”.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2018 • 12:59:50pm
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KGxvi  Jan 25, 2018 • 1:02:17pm

re: #62 Kragar

Apparently a lot of Fox viewers are really mad at Smith because he doesn’t tell them what they want to hear.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 25, 2018 • 1:03:52pm

re: #62 Kragar

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 25, 2018 • 1:04:27pm

re: #40 Joe Bacon 🌹

Tebow playing Left Field?????

What Would Jay-Zuss Say??????

“You’re batting ninth.”

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Alephnaught  Jan 25, 2018 • 1:05:29pm

Bit of a bittersweet Burns’ Night for me, as Mark E. Smith of The Fall has died.

The Fall - Eat Y’Self Fitter (1983)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2018 • 1:05:51pm
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wrenchwench  Jan 25, 2018 • 1:09:01pm
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wrenchwench  Jan 25, 2018 • 1:10:42pm

re: #73 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That’s what my hair used to look like.

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Skip Intro  Jan 25, 2018 • 1:11:54pm

Rush Limbaugh has discovered that the DEEP STATE SECRET SOCIETY goes deeper and has been around longer than anyone ever suspected.

Rush Limbaugh said he was “not surprised there’s a secret society” going after Trump, and he alleged that a secret society also cooked up fake intelligence to goad George W. Bush into a dumb war. “What if the intel on the war in Iraq was another disinformation campaign to damage another Republican president?” Limbaugh asked.

Exactly! And what if Ted Cruz’s dad, after killing President Kennedy, forged Barack Obama’s birth certificate?

- Dana Milbank

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 25, 2018 • 1:12:47pm

re: #75 wrenchwench

That’s what my hair used to look like.

Seems appropriate.

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Archangelus  Jan 25, 2018 • 1:16:53pm

re: #75 wrenchwench

That’s what my hair used to look like.

That’s what my beard used to look like.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 25, 2018 • 1:18:35pm

re: #58 Charles Johnson

“As the walls close in on the FBI…” LOL

Remember when Republicans were all like “If you’re attacking the FBI it means you’re losing”?

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plansbandc  Jan 25, 2018 • 1:19:49pm

re: #72 Alephnaught

Well shit. :(

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S'latch  Jan 25, 2018 • 1:21:11pm

All the missing e-mails have been found. [this might be old news but I just heard it.]

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HappyWarrior  Jan 25, 2018 • 1:22:08pm

re: #76 Skip Intro

Rush Limbaugh has discovered that the DEEP STATE SECRET SOCIETY goes deeper and has been around longer than anyone ever suspected.

- Dana Milbank

He’s gone full Alex Jones.

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gocart mozart  Jan 25, 2018 • 1:22:40pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 25, 2018 • 1:23:37pm

re: #82 HappyWarrior

He’s gone full Alex Jones.

playing to the same audience

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Mike Lamb  Jan 25, 2018 • 1:24:01pm

re: #66 dangerman

once again:
you lose control of your weapon you face criminal and civil charges and lose your 2a rights forever

a discharge, let alone hitting someone, is NOT required for you to have lost control

you have demonstrated that you are not responsible enough to keep, bear, own, manage, carry, etc a gun

You face worse repercussions leaving your luggage unattended at an airport…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 25, 2018 • 1:24:25pm

re: #83 gocart mozart

Millions of families across the country can now breathe a sigh of relief after the longest extension of the Children’s Health Insurance Program in history became law this week.

You were the one of the bastards who had them holding their breath in the first place

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Nyet  Jan 25, 2018 • 1:25:38pm
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dangerman  Jan 25, 2018 • 1:27:00pm

re: #85 Mike Lamb

You face worse repercussions leaving your luggage unattended at an airport…

these effing people claim they are so responsible
the demonstrably arent
and they wont even stand up to their own ridiculously low standards

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Skip Intro  Jan 25, 2018 • 1:27:47pm

re: #82 HappyWarrior

He’s gone full Alex Jones.

That’s what competition for the RWNJ market does to you. Find the lowest common denominator and just keep digging.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 25, 2018 • 1:28:45pm

re: #87 Nyet

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Thanks Sergey. Thankless work.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 25, 2018 • 1:29:29pm

re: #89 Skip Intro

That’s what competition for the RWNJ market does to you. Find the lowest common denominator and just keep digging.

For sure.

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KGxvi  Jan 25, 2018 • 1:29:32pm

More on the new XFL:

McMahon also said he would preclude any player with a criminal record, which would disqualify former Texas A&M quarterback and Heisman Trophy winner Johnny Manziel.

“We are evaluating a player based on many things, including the quality of human being they are,” McMahon said. If you have any sort of criminal record or commit a crime you aren’t playing in this league.”

Interesting ploy since there are guys currently on the WWE roster who had various run ins with the law (including McMahon himself, who was indicted in the early 90s over steroid use in the WWF).

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KGxvi  Jan 25, 2018 • 1:31:02pm

re: #89 Skip Intro

That’s what competition for the RWNJ market does to you. Find the lowest common denominator and just keep digging.

We really should be investing in aluminum commodities futures.

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makeitstop  Jan 25, 2018 • 1:33:30pm

re: #72 Alephnaught

Bit of a bittersweet Burns’ Night for me, as Mark E. Smith of The Fall has died.

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Video

One of my favorite Fall moments (by no means the usual!) - covering Ray Davies quite admirably.

The Fall - Victoria

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ObserverArt  Jan 25, 2018 • 1:34:42pm

re: #75 wrenchwench

That’s what my hair used to look like.

Out pushing unmanned bikes were you?

I imagine there was some repairs to do after, so you were the right person.*

*to fix bikes. Not sure about the hair.

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darthstar  Jan 25, 2018 • 1:36:39pm

Sergey - just report the fucker and put him on mute. That’s what I do.

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Nyet  Jan 25, 2018 • 1:38:22pm

re: #96 darthstar

Let’s get him banned.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2018 • 1:42:13pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2018 • 1:43:28pm
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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jan 25, 2018 • 1:43:46pm

More from the Church of the Golden Calf:

Facebook Post

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 25, 2018 • 1:45:00pm

re: #100 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

More from the Church of the Golden Calf:

Holding Trump to task for paying hush money to Stormy Daniels would be a punishment for America, Bryan Fischer says

wonder how much Bryan has paid in hush money over his career

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Belafon  Jan 25, 2018 • 1:46:08pm

re: #99 Backwoods_Sleuth

Maybe Latinos here in Texas will vote now.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2018 • 1:46:22pm

re: #101 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

wonder how much Bryan has paid in hush money over his career

a fortune in picnic baskets to bears alone…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2018 • 1:47:49pm

Oskar has been Jim’s #1 berner troll today.

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darthstar  Jan 25, 2018 • 1:48:32pm

re: #97 Nyet

Let’s get him banned.

I appreciate your passion for rooting out and exposing Nazis, and wish you continued success at destroying their online presence, but it’s not my cup of tea. If it shows up on my TL, I report it.

Some woman made a silly joke about slavery to her friends on her facebook page and people are posting screencaps of it on Twitter, as well as pics of her LinkedIn profile page and place of employment. Yeah, the woman’s a fucking idiot. Report her to facebook if you know her. I reported that as targeted harassment just as I would have reported her joke had it been a tweet on Twitter. Then I muted the person sharing it.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 25, 2018 • 1:49:06pm

re: #100 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

More from the Church of the Golden Calf:

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Lol what a hack.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2018 • 1:49:15pm

O_o

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Skip Intro  Jan 25, 2018 • 1:50:07pm

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HappyWarrior  Jan 25, 2018 • 1:50:32pm

re: #107 Backwoods_Sleuth

O_o

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You are from Canada, Ted and the son of a man whose father benefited from the wet foot policy. STFU

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 25, 2018 • 1:51:30pm
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FormerDirtDart  Jan 25, 2018 • 1:56:19pm
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Stanley Sea  Jan 25, 2018 • 1:57:47pm
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makeitstop  Jan 25, 2018 • 1:58:45pm

Whoa if true.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 25, 2018 • 1:59:08pm

re: #112 Stanley Sea

???

At least until Cruz, Cotton and Steve King (and Gohmert!) can get over to the WH and change his mind again.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2018 • 2:01:27pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2018 • 2:02:27pm
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Belafon  Jan 25, 2018 • 2:02:37pm

re: #112 Stanley Sea

Dems should offer $30B for the wall, accept DACA, and reject the other two.

I expect the wall to be tied up in courts for so long that the money won’t be spent.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 25, 2018 • 2:02:40pm

Just being a whistleblower does not make one a hero if in doing so one also unnecessarily exposes activities that are not illegal and compromises US security

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Belafon  Jan 25, 2018 • 2:03:32pm

re: #118 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Just being a whistleblower does not make one a hero if in doing so one also unnecessarily exposes activities that are not illegal and compromises US security

What broke the hero part was running to Assange.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 25, 2018 • 2:04:10pm

re: #111 FormerDirtDart

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Kristin Beck is a much better trans role model as is Laverne Cox.

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KGxvi  Jan 25, 2018 • 2:05:40pm

re: #117 Belafon

Dems should offer $30B for the wall, accept DACA, and reject the other two.

I expect the wall to be tied up in courts for so long that the money won’t be spent.

I don’t see an end to chain migration surviving the committee process, let alone floor votes.

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Bubblehead II  Jan 25, 2018 • 2:05:43pm
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Sir John Barron  Jan 25, 2018 • 2:06:44pm

re: #116 Backwoods_Sleuth

well I guess it took a month for Derp Society to try to make a thing out of it.

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Targetpractice  Jan 25, 2018 • 2:09:22pm

re: #112 Stanley Sea

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If this is the House GOP’s “Securing America’s Future Act” bill, then the White House is wasting our time. There’s no way in Hell that bill will get out of the House except on a partisan vote, and the Senate DNC will bury it then piss on the grave.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 25, 2018 • 2:11:11pm
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Ace-o-aces  Jan 25, 2018 • 2:11:21pm
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Alephnaught  Jan 25, 2018 • 2:12:37pm

re: #94 makeitstop

One of my favorite Fall moments (by no means the usual!) - covering Ray Davies quite admirably.

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Amazingly, their biggest singles hit is a cover of “There’s a Ghost in my House”. In the video here, Mark E Smith appears to playing it like Val Doonican.

The Fall - There’s a Ghost in My House

They almost got a proper hit with their own tunes around at that time (1987) with “Hit the North”. They did a performance on a short-lived prime time show called The Roxy, which was meant to be a competitor to the main chart based pop show of the time, Top of the Pops, so this is as far they got to being actual pop stars. Bits of the official video are incorporated into the performance and the set.

The Fall - Hit the north (Roxy 10-11-1987)

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 25, 2018 • 2:14:33pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 25, 2018 • 2:15:17pm

Shit even my friends who love wrestling know this is unlikely to replace the NFL. McMahon is obviously savvy but the NFL has spent years building its brand.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 25, 2018 • 2:16:11pm

re: #128 Ace-o-aces

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Says someone who has no problem stealing other people’s labors to pay for his agenda.

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TedStriker  Jan 25, 2018 • 2:17:02pm

re: #129 HappyWarrior

Shit even my friends who love wrestling know this is unlikely to replace the NFL. McMahon is obviously savvy but the NFL has spent years building its brand.

Question is, who’s gonna be the new He Hate Me?

///

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teleskiguy  Jan 25, 2018 • 2:17:55pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 25, 2018 • 2:18:11pm

re: #126 Ace-o-aces

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So how much tax money will Linda funnel to Vince through the Small Business Administration?

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gocart mozart  Jan 25, 2018 • 2:19:14pm
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Bubblehead II  Jan 25, 2018 • 2:20:21pm

t-10

nasa.gov

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dangerman  Jan 25, 2018 • 2:20:44pm

re: #126 Ace-o-aces

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um, matt….i believe it’s “fray”
unless you meant “the Frey” as in the god of peace, prosperity, and marriage

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Stanley Sea  Jan 25, 2018 • 2:22:23pm

re: #126 Ace-o-aces

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Who joins the Glenn Frey?

Whatta dope

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Targetpractice  Jan 25, 2018 • 2:22:30pm

You can see where the White House is going with this. They’re trying to make a play at being seen as “reasonable,” that they’re not opposed to citizenship for Dreamers, they just need all their demands met. And if the Democrats won’t meet those demands, then they’re being “unreasonable” and thus they’re the ones who are holding up the process.

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Belafon  Jan 25, 2018 • 2:23:08pm

re: #138 Targetpractice

You can see where the White House is going with this. They’re trying to make a play at being seen as “reasonable,” that they’re not opposed to citizenship for Dreamers, they just need all their demands met. And if the Democrats won’t meet those demands, then they’re being “unreasonable” and thus they’re the ones who are holding up the process.

It’ll be up to us to call bullshit on it.

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dangerman  Jan 25, 2018 • 2:23:17pm

re: #138 Targetpractice

You can see where the White House is going with this. They’re trying to make a play at being seen as “reasonable,” that they’re not opposed to citizenship for Dreamers, they just need all their demands met. And if the Democrats won’t meet those demands, then they’re being “unreasonable” and thus they’re the ones who are holding up the process.

same hostage taking, different day

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HappyWarrior  Jan 25, 2018 • 2:23:21pm

re: #138 Targetpractice

You can see where the White House is going with this. They’re trying to make a play at being seen as “reasonable,” that they’re not opposed to citizenship for Dreamers, they just need all their demands met. And if the Democrats won’t meet those demands, then they’re being “unreasonable” and thus they’re the ones who are holding up the process.

We need to win this PR battle.

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 25, 2018 • 2:23:36pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 25, 2018 • 2:25:13pm

re: #142 Ace-o-aces

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This guy is an idiot.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 25, 2018 • 2:26:15pm

Anyhow my friend theorized that by 2020, the national anthem stuff will be forgotten and McMahon won’t care one way or the other what the guys do or don’t do.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 25, 2018 • 2:26:31pm

re: #128 Ace-o-aces

I do not go as far as seeing health care as a right, but I do see it very much in the interest of society to help ensure access to health care for as many people as possible. Because regulating the health care market actually makes it cheaper and better for everyone. Some things cannot be left entirely to the Free Market.

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makeitstop  Jan 25, 2018 • 2:29:41pm

re: #127 Alephnaught

They almost got a proper hit with their own tunes around at that time (1987) with “Hit the North”. They did a performance on a short-lived prime time show called The Roxy, which was meant to be a competitor to the main chart based pop show of the time, Top of the Pops, so this is as far they got to being actual pop stars. Bit of the official video are incorporated into the performance and the set.

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‘Hit the North’ was my introduction to The Fall - there was once a radio station here on LI called WLIR, and they made their name by being NYC’s ‘New Wave’ station (KROQ in LA had the same format at about the same time). They played the hell out of that song.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2018 • 2:29:42pm

re: #126 Ace-o-aces

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“joins the Frey”???

lol…

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Sir John Barron  Jan 25, 2018 • 2:30:00pm

re: #142 Ace-o-aces

By the NFL allowing the anti-cop, anti-American players to disrespect our National Anthem, they have invited their own demise. Vince McMahon is bringing back the XFL 😃 #XFL2020 #RIPNFL

— Mark Dice

LOL

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Kilroy was here  Jan 25, 2018 • 2:31:27pm

re: #142 Ace-o-aces

XFL WILL HAVE THE NATIONAL ANTHEM AFTER EVERY DOWN! AND AT HALF TIME, THEY WILL RITUALLY SACRIFICE AN ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT!

There fixed it for you…

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HappyWarrior  Jan 25, 2018 • 2:32:35pm

re: #149 Kilroy was here

XFL WILL HAVE THE NATIONAL ANTHEM AFTER EVERY DOWN! AND AT HALF TIME, THEY WILL RITUALLY SACRIFICE AN ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT!

There fixed it for you…

Ha!

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dangerman  Jan 25, 2018 • 2:33:23pm

re: #145 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I do not go as far as seeing health care as a right, but I do see it very much in the interest of society to help ensure access to health care for as many people as possible. Because regulating the health care market actually makes it cheaper and better for everyone. Some things cannot be left entirely to the Free Market.

imo it shouldnt be portrayed as a right either

healthcare for all is a common good for many sensible reasons economic and otherwise

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HappyWarrior  Jan 25, 2018 • 2:34:02pm

re: #151 dangerman

imo it shouldnt be portrayed as a right either

healthcare for all is a common good for many sensible reasons economic and otherwise

Yes. Yes indeed.

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EPR-radar  Jan 25, 2018 • 2:34:18pm

re: #134 gocart mozart

This is the face of a man with the corpses of many children in his basement.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 25, 2018 • 2:35:03pm

re: #153 EPR-radar

This is the face of a man with the corpses of many children in his basement.

Buffalo Miller.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 25, 2018 • 2:36:05pm

Afternoon/Evening Lizardim from the cool and snowy wild north country. In local news, apparently the hospital and schools in town were on lockdown for a couple of hours today when a shooter was reported at the hospital. Details are sparse (I can’t find any news links, for one), but it really brings home just how completely fucked up our culture currently is. How go things among the lizardfolk?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 25, 2018 • 2:41:10pm

re: #145 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I do not go as far as seeing health care as a right, but I do see it very much in the interest of society to help ensure access to health care for as many people as possible. Because regulating the health care market actually makes it cheaper and better for everyone. Some things cannot be left entirely to the Free Market.

Functionally, though, it’s been a right ever since the 1980s when Reagan signed TEFRA and hospitals could no longer dump indigent patients for inability to pay.

Ever since then, all we’ve really been arguing about is whether to handle that right stupidly or less stupidly.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 25, 2018 • 2:42:42pm

re: #147 Backwoods_Sleuth

“joins the Frey”???

lol…

I think, after last season of GoT, all of the Frey are dead, and you really don’t want to join them.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 25, 2018 • 2:43:35pm
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FormerDirtDart  Jan 25, 2018 • 2:47:51pm
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CongoJack  Jan 25, 2018 • 2:49:56pm

re: #158 FormerDirtDart

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Wonder if the Dems could sneak in there something that eminent domain can not be used for the creation of the wall. That ought to slow down the process.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 25, 2018 • 2:51:11pm
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KGxvi  Jan 25, 2018 • 2:53:38pm

Miller thinks he can get 60 votes in the Senate with this alleged framework? Did he drop the demands for less legal immigration and the end of chain migration? Or is he just as fucking dumb as he looks?

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ObserverArt  Jan 25, 2018 • 2:55:47pm

re: #162 KGxvi

Miller thinks he can get 60 votes in the Senate with this alleged framework? Did he drop the demands for less legal immigration and the end of chain migration? Or is he just as fucking dumb as he looks?

Pretty much spelled out in FormerDirtDart’s #158

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TedStriker  Jan 25, 2018 • 2:56:42pm

re: #162 KGxvi

Miller thinks he can get 60 votes in the Senate with this alleged framework? Did he drop the demands for less legal immigration and the end of chain migration? Or is he just as fucking dumb as he looks?

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SteelPH  Jan 25, 2018 • 2:57:39pm

re: #142 Ace-o-aces

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Who knew “stop killing blacks indiscriminately” was anti-cop?

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Stanley Sea  Jan 25, 2018 • 2:58:22pm

re: #155 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Afternoon/Evening Lizardim from the cool and snowy wild north country. In local news, apparently the hospital and schools in town were on lockdown for a couple of hours today when a shooter was reported at the hospital. Details are sparse (I can’t find any news links, for one), but it really brings home just how completely fucked up our culture currently is. How go things among the lizardfolk?

Self improvement week continues. Nails last night, cut & color tonight.

Hadda share!

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TedStriker  Jan 25, 2018 • 2:58:59pm

re: #159 FormerDirtDart

House Rs not happy w/this new WH immigration plan -> “This is the beginning of the end of the GOP majority in the House. In a year when the Democrats impeach Trump, we can point to this moment,” one R on the call tells me.

— Rachael Bade (@rachaelmbade) January 25, 2018

Damn, I hope so…

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 25, 2018 • 2:59:28pm

re: #162 KGxvi

Miller thinks he can get 60 votes in the Senate with this alleged framework? Did he drop the demands for less legal immigration and the end of chain migration? Or is he just as fucking dumb as he looks?

Nothing that passes the Senate will get through the House as long as Ryan continues to insist on following the Hastert child molester rule, and Schumer has already signaled his intention to cave to McConnell on tying the Senate bill to the continuing resolution.

So the odds are pretty good that the Dreamers will get fucked while everyone watches and wrings their hands pretending to give a shit while doing nothing substantive to prevent it.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 25, 2018 • 3:00:33pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 25, 2018 • 3:06:28pm

re: #155 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The local sheriff’s office issued a statement. They believe that the person who called in the “guy with a gun” outside the hospital was actually trying to swat someone with whom he had been arguing. Ugh, why do people have to be such assholes.

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KGxvi  Jan 25, 2018 • 3:06:40pm

re: #168 goddamnedfrank

Nothing that passes the Senate will get through the House as long as Ryan continues to insist on following the Hastert child molester rule, and Schumer has already signaled his intention to cave to McConnell on tying the Senate bill to the continuing resolution.

So the odds are pretty good that the Dreamers will get fucked while everyone watches and wrings their hands pretending to give a shit while doing nothing substantive to prevent it.

If Schumer caves on this, turn out this year is going to be like 7. Not percent, like 7 people voting.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 25, 2018 • 3:06:50pm

re: #169 Stanley Sea

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Breitbart shouldn’t be talking about hate.

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Skip Intro  Jan 25, 2018 • 3:09:19pm

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 25, 2018 • 3:12:21pm

Republicans seem to be dividing into those who really believe what they always said they believe, and those who actually believe even worse shit.

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ObserverArt  Jan 25, 2018 • 3:15:40pm

re: #168 goddamnedfrank

Nothing that passes the Senate will get through the House as long as Ryan continues to insist on following the Hastert child molester rule, and Schumer has already signaled his intention to cave to McConnell on tying the Senate bill to the continuing resolution.

So the odds are pretty good that the Dreamers will get fucked while everyone watches and wrings their hands pretending to give a shit while doing nothing substantive to prevent it.

Frank, what would you have Schumer do that would guarantee an outcome that would be different than where the Republicans can take things anyway and not get painted by the current media as being all the Democrats fault?

Shut down is about the only tactic, right? Are you/we ready for that?

Anyone want to throw in?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 25, 2018 • 3:16:50pm

Fuck your economic growth! Fuck your aging population! We need to keep the nonwhites out!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 25, 2018 • 3:17:35pm

Turns out that a two party system is actually pretty shitty when one party cares more about power than it does about governing.

Also turns out that sometimes none of the choices are good.

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Targetpractice  Jan 25, 2018 • 3:18:17pm

re: #176 Blind Frog Belly White

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Fuck your economic growth! Fuck your aging population! We need to keep the nonwhites out!

So when we’ve already got two competing proposals, the White House’s solution…is to toss an even bigger turd in the punch bowl.

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KGxvi  Jan 25, 2018 • 3:20:34pm

re: #174 Blind Frog Belly White

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Republicans seem to be dividing into those who really believe what they always said they believe, and those who actually believe even worse shit.

That the living embodiment of swarminess that is Bill fucking Kristol can turn out to be one of the reasonable ones is a plot twist I’m not entirely sure I saw coming.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 25, 2018 • 3:22:23pm

Election complaint filed against Trump over Stormy Daniels.

LOL

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 25, 2018 • 3:23:33pm

re: #180 Ace Rothstein

Election complaint filed against Trump over Stormy Daniels.

LOL

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 25, 2018 • 3:25:36pm

re: #180 Ace Rothstein

Election complaint filed against Trump over Stormy Daniels.

LOL

How does that work, exactly?

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darthstar  Jan 25, 2018 • 3:26:22pm

re: #132 teleskiguy

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“If you don’t do it this year, you’ll be one year older when you do.”

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 25, 2018 • 3:26:35pm

re: #182 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

How does that work, exactly?

They are saying it’s an FEC violation because they didn’t report the $130K hush money.

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fern01  Jan 25, 2018 • 3:29:25pm

re: #25 KGxvi

Not sure he realizes that expecting players to stand is, in itself, a political statement.

.

It’s the other people who are political. Those who stand for the anthem are just the good guys.

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MsJ  Jan 25, 2018 • 3:30:03pm

re: #166 Stanley Sea

Self improvement week continues. Nails last night, cut & color tonight.

Hadda share!

Pics or it didn’t happen!!!11!!! (////)

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 25, 2018 • 3:30:10pm

re: #184 Ace Rothstein

They are saying it’s an FEC violation because they didn’t report the $130K hush money.

I only wish they could make that stick. But still, great comedic value.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 25, 2018 • 3:34:24pm

re: #156 Blind Frog Belly White

Functionally, though, it’s been a right ever since the 1980s when Reagan signed TEFRA and hospitals could no longer dump indigent patients for inability to pay.

Ever since then, all we’ve really been arguing about is whether to handle that right stupidly or less stupidly.

Emergency health care is a right, but in the long run, it is cheaper to offer people therapy or medication that might cost a few hundred dollars in advance than to wait for them to show up in the ER needing an operation that costs thousands.

Those costs wound up being dumped on insurance customers and driving health care prices up, making it affordable for fewer and fewer, a vicious cycle that ACA was designed to break.

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jaunte  Jan 25, 2018 • 3:35:23pm

Missouri Man Wants His Dinner

“I want to come home to a home cooked dinner every night at six,” Sykes said, referring to demands he makes of his girlfriend. “One that she fixes and one that I expect one day to have daughters learn to fix after they become traditional homemakers and family wives.”

According to Sykes, feminists push an agenda that they “made up to suit their own nasty snake-filled heads.”

The candidate said that he hoped his daughters do not grow up to be “career obsessed banshees who forgo home life and children and the happiness of family to become nail-biting manophobic hell-bent feminist she devils who shriek from the top of a thousand tall buildings they are [SIC] think they could have leaped in a single bound — had men not been ‘suppressing them.’ It’s just nuts.”

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ObserverArt  Jan 25, 2018 • 3:36:07pm

re: #177 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Turns out that a two party system is actually pretty shitty when one party cares more about power than it does about governing.

Also turns out that sometimes none of the choices are good.

It is set to be a representative government. So, it is (and has been) about the people. The people voted for Trump.

The people have been voting this way for years and the candidates we have now are reflected in that. You can see how both parties got to this point all along, especially since the 60s.

As an example: The Clintons. The answer to Reaganism conservatism.

They have not been 100% accepted by the Democratic side of things since Bill was in office. Bill is often criticized for being Republican Lite. That has pissed far left off for some time. Hillary gets that label and the neo-con thing tossed in too.

Bill Clinton, by going to the center, actually got elected president, something that had been a problem for Democrats since Carter.

Bill going center made the GOP go more hard right to fight “Clintonism” and with the help of Fox that worked for them to get “W” Bush.

Bush gets dumped by Obama…but soon after Obama was criticized for being another Clinton. Also the TeaParty is formed.

The Republicans then went whole hog crazy. We get Trump.

Clinton loses and everyone says bad candidate.

Here we are. In a way both parties need those likeable candidates…just as you say. Problem now is The Left is seemingly splitting up at the worst time. The Right will stick together no matter what.

Welcome to America. Turns out a lot of the people get stupid and we then get stupid politics.

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jaunte  Jan 25, 2018 • 3:36:07pm

Tonight we’ll be having snake-filled head!

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Targetpractice  Jan 25, 2018 • 3:36:41pm

re: #191 jaunte

Tonight we’ll be having snake-filled head!

Been watch Temple of Doom again, eh?

/

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MsJ  Jan 25, 2018 • 3:36:43pm

Reading this now:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 25, 2018 • 3:37:01pm

re: #189 jaunte

GOP Senate candidate flips out over ‘women’s rights’: ‘I want to come home to a cooked dinner every night’

If you want a home cooked dinner every night, then find a partner who is willing to devote him/herself to that role. But do not expect to force that anyone else.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 25, 2018 • 3:37:03pm

re: #144 HappyWarrior

Anyhow my friend theorized that by 2020, the national anthem stuff will be forgotten and McMahon won’t care one way or the other what the guys do or don’t do.

I can see Vince pumping up his XFL boys on steroids and just wait for the endless roid rages on the field…

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Targetpractice  Jan 25, 2018 • 3:40:08pm

re: #194 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If you want a home cooked dinner every night, then find a partner who is willing to devote him/herself to that role. But do not expect to force that anyone else.

Ayep, if you want that “traditional wife,” then go out there and look for her. Do not expect society to give you one by forcing all women into the same mold.

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TedStriker  Jan 25, 2018 • 3:40:19pm

re: #189 jaunte

Missouri Man Wants His Dinner

What a fucking retrograde asshole.

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TedStriker  Jan 25, 2018 • 3:44:01pm

re: #192 Targetpractice

Been watch Temple of Doom again, eh?

/

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jaunte  Jan 25, 2018 • 3:44:22pm

re: #197 TedStriker

He needs a spoon to bang on his high chair.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 25, 2018 • 3:46:49pm

re: #189 jaunte

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Missouri Man Wants His Dinner

Wait a second! He says this to his GIRLFRIEND????

Is he…LIVING IN…SIN????

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EPR-radar  Jan 25, 2018 • 3:48:19pm

re: #189 jaunte

So, Mr. Moral Majority goes home every night and oppresses his wife girlfriend. Wonderful.

The edit makes it even more wonderful.

Have I mentioned recently that every Republican elected official and candidate needs to be massively and repeatedly fucked with a nail bat?

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fern01  Jan 25, 2018 • 3:50:51pm

re: #164 TedStriker

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I abhor the term “chain immigration” - it was always known as family immigration before the trump minions realized they no longer had any family values so they could turn it into a racist expression

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jaunte  Jan 25, 2018 • 3:51:00pm

re: #201 EPR-radar

He says Chanel is his girlfriend, and she “loves to pay the price of fixing dinner” in order to get his “obedience.”

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 25, 2018 • 3:52:19pm

re: #203 jaunte

Chanel. LOL

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EPR-radar  Jan 25, 2018 • 3:53:53pm

re: #189 jaunte

I’m surprised that this goober apparently did not refer to feminazis in his unhinged screed. Perhaps that bit of the wit and wisdom of Rush Limbaugh is still beyond the pale for GOP candidates, but it won’t be for long.

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Swampwitch  Jan 25, 2018 • 3:54:30pm

re: #201 EPR-radar

So, Mr. Moral Majority goes home every night and oppresses his wife. Wonderful.

It’s his girlfriend, and she thinks VERY highly of herself. chanelrion.com

These two deserve each other.

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BeachDem  Jan 25, 2018 • 3:54:51pm

re: #203 jaunte

He says Chanel is his girlfriend, and she “loves to pay the price of fixing dinner” in order to get his “obedience.”

This is his girlfriend—I’m not crying a lot of rivers for her.

littlegreenfootballs.com

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jaunte  Jan 25, 2018 • 3:55:39pm

re: #205 EPR-radar

I think snake-filled, manophobic, career-obsessed banshees is plenty.

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Scout  Jan 25, 2018 • 3:56:16pm

re: #189 jaunte

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Missouri Man Wants His Dinner

What’s the deal with this guy? Is he THE candidate, or is this race still in the primary process?

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darthstar  Jan 25, 2018 • 3:56:40pm

re: #206 Swampwitch

It’s his girlfriend, and she thinks VERY highly of herself. chanelrion.com

These two deserve each other.

She’s a piece of work.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 25, 2018 • 3:56:43pm

re: #206 Swampwitch

It’s his girlfriend, and she thinks VERY highly of herself. chanelrion.com

These two deserve each other.

“Chanel has become widely known as the best political illustrator in the country for constitutional conservative and anti-leftist causes and as President Trump’s most talented and stalwart graphic warrior against leftism.”

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EPR-radar  Jan 25, 2018 • 3:56:57pm

re: #208 jaunte

I think snake-filled, manophobic, career-obsessed banshees is plenty.

Indeed. That rant reads like it’s from a Gamergater.

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jaunte  Jan 25, 2018 • 3:58:30pm

re: #206 Swampwitch

“Chanel has become widely known as the best political illustrator in the country for constitutional conservative and anti-leftist causes and as President Trump’s most talented and stalwart graphic warrior against leftism.”
google.com:

Uh huh.

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EPR-radar  Jan 25, 2018 • 3:58:47pm

re: #211 Ace Rothstein

“Chanel has become widely known as the best political illustrator in the country for constitutional conservative and anti-leftist causes and as President Trump’s most talented and stalwart graphic warrior against leftism.”

Oh god. Was it too much to ask that Phyllis Schlafly’s niche in US politics remain vacant after she was called home by Satan?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 25, 2018 • 3:59:02pm

Just saw this horseshit on FB:

They are THE DUMBEST people on the face of the planet.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jan 25, 2018 • 3:59:10pm

re: #200 Joe Bacon 🌹

Wait a second! He says this to his GIRLFRIEND????

Is he…LIVING IN…SIN????

Friggin’ shack-rat hippies….He needs a haircut and a decent suit too.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 25, 2018 • 4:01:21pm

So far today I have run 5k (practically a rest day!), spent two hours throwing pottery on the wheel (I make lots of bowls), and now have the banana bread in the oven. Dinner tonight is going to be a French onion zoodle bake and sirloin tips with a mushroom sauce. A few more domestic chores to take care of but I can almost claim to be productive!

…as long as we ignore the shit that was on my actual to do list for the day, sigh.

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jaunte  Jan 25, 2018 • 4:01:45pm
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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jan 25, 2018 • 4:04:04pm

re: #215 Blind Frog Belly White

Just saw this horseshit on FB:

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They are THE DUMBEST people on the face of the planet.

The Center for Disease Control did not exist in 1958. At the time, “CDC” was the Communicable Disease Center, and was concerned exclusively with contagious diseases like malaria.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 25, 2018 • 4:05:06pm

re: #218 jaunte

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I support Continuing Ed., too. I also support Dolorous Edd.

Dolorous Edd For Lord Commander!
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 25, 2018 • 4:05:16pm

Re: XFL

A high percentage of respectable quality players at most positions in football are black. Cops and the justice system aren’t especially fair to black men.

Vince is dreaming if he thinks he can cobble a league together without any players who have any kind of record and still get a decent product on the field.

He’s long had a desire to be successful outside of wrestling. He tried it with ill fated World Bodybuilding Federation, he tried it with the XFL the first time around and he tried it with WWE Studios. Aside from the latter, which has been hit and miss, none have found any kind of success.

I’ve been following the WWE for 24 years now. If you know anything about the way Vince does business you know the players are going to wind up on the shit end of this deal.

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dangerman  Jan 25, 2018 • 4:07:09pm

re: #215 Blind Frog Belly White

Just saw this horseshit on FB:

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They are THE DUMBEST people on the face of the planet.

dont believe the cdc had that name in 1958

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MsJ  Jan 25, 2018 • 4:08:04pm

re: #194 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If you want a home cooked dinner every night, then find a partner who is willing to devote him/herself to that role. But do not expect to force that anyone else.

Or learn how to take care of yourself. Or go home to mommy.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 25, 2018 • 4:08:24pm

re: #222 dangerman

Per Wiki: “The Communicable Disease Center was founded July 1, 1946, as the successor to the World War II Malaria Control in War Areas program[4] of the Office of National Defense Malaria Control Activities.”

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dangerman  Jan 25, 2018 • 4:08:50pm

re: #219 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

The Center for Disease Control did not exist in 1958. At the time, “CDC” was the Communicable Disease Center, and was concerned exclusively with contagious diseases
like malaria.

ok way ahead of me.
i should read through first….

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ipsos  Jan 25, 2018 • 4:11:26pm

re: #219 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

The Center for Disease Control did not exist in 1958. At the time, “CDC” was the Communicable Disease Center, and was concerned exclusively with contagious diseases
like malaria.

And there was already ample scientific evidence, approaching consensus, that cigarette smoking carried health risks - even if the tobacco companies were paying to keep it hidden.

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KGxvi  Jan 25, 2018 • 4:14:33pm

re: #221 Eclectic Cyborg

I’ve been following the WWE for 24 years now. If you know anything about the way Vince does business you know the players are going to wind up on the shit end of this deal.

The earliest stuff I remember as a wrestling fan was the post Wrestlemania III story lines. Since the late 90s, I’d call myself something of a smark. I tend to agree with you on this point - will be very interesting to see if the players try to form a union and how he reacts to that.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jan 25, 2018 • 4:17:50pm

The most infuriating thing about antivaxx madness is that it exists almost exclusively as a marketing tool of quacks, the “alternate health care” industry in all its massive scope and profitability. It never occurs to the dupes that the profits from this far exceed whatever “big pharma” can make from vaccines, since the latter are a relatively small item in their overall sales.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 25, 2018 • 4:18:48pm

re: #227 KGxvi

That will be interesting. The only reason his wrestlers have any kind of protection now is because of the regulatory and legal heat that resulted after several dozen of the performers started dying from heart attacks and drug overdoses before age 50.

The list of wrestlers who have died young is staggering. Far more so than in any other sport or athletic activity.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2018 • 4:19:33pm

omg…so much smarmy bullshit

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 25, 2018 • 4:20:20pm

re: #226 ipsos

And there was already ample scientific evidence, approaching consensus, that cigarette smoking carried health risks - even if the tobacco companies were paying to keep it hidden.

“Just like the vaccine companies, man! Because there’s so much money in vaccines!!”

Ron Howard: “There isn’t.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2018 • 4:21:38pm
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darthstar  Jan 25, 2018 • 4:22:14pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2018 • 4:24:01pm

welp, ok then…so much for out-of-control costs….

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 25, 2018 • 4:25:09pm

re: #231 Blind Frog Belly White

“Just like the vaccine companies, man! Because there’s so much money in vaccines!!”

Ron Howard: “There isn’t.”

when it comes to vaccines, we have a fine example of the overlapping circle of derp: on one hand we have anti-western medicine, anti-big pharma moonbats, on the other side we have anti-science, anti-big government wingnuts coming together to create a toxic critical mass of anti-vaxerism that is dense enough to result in outbreaks of preventable diseases that should long have been all but wiped out in our country.

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darthstar  Jan 25, 2018 • 4:25:58pm

re: #234 Backwoods_Sleuth

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welp, ok then…so much for out-of-control costs….

A plastic bucket and a 7lb bag of ice for Diet Coke costs $487,000, apparently, so over time the refrigerators will actually save taxpayers money.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2018 • 4:26:50pm
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EPR-radar  Jan 25, 2018 • 4:28:04pm

re: #237 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump is such a snowflake.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 25, 2018 • 4:28:13pm

re: #234 Backwoods_Sleuth

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welp, ok then…so much for out-of-control costs….

And you thought the $20 000 hammer was bad.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2018 • 4:28:25pm

jeebus

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 25, 2018 • 4:29:18pm

re: #240 Backwoods_Sleuth

Rich people like other rich people, film at 11.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jan 25, 2018 • 4:29:36pm

re: #230 Backwoods_Sleuth

omg…so much smarmy bullshit

The GOP base won’t like this. They understand though that Trump has to take one thing at a time and that deporting Dreamers and denying healthcare to the poor are far more important than finally exposing the Moon landing hoax or admitting that the Earth is flat.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 25, 2018 • 4:29:50pm

re: #241 Eclectic Cyborg

Rich people like other rich people, film at 11.

Trump ain’t rich.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 25, 2018 • 4:31:04pm

re: #228 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

The most infuriating thing about antivaxx madness is that it exists almost exclusively as a marketing tool of quacks, the “alternate health care” industry in all its massive scope and profitability. It never occurs to the dupes that the profits from this far exceed whatever “big pharma” can make from vaccines, since the latter are a relatively small item in their overall sales.

As the father of a son On The Spectrum, I understand the desire of parents to find someone to blame. It’s part of the grieving process - you have to grieve for the Normal Kid you didn’t get. It sounds strange, and I hope those of you diagnosed as On The Spectrum understand - I would not trade The Older Boy for anything, but you come into parenting with certain expectations. When your child is diagnosed, you have to give those up before you can accept who your child is and help them find their own place in the world.

I suspect that if you don’t go through that grieving process, you remain stuck in needing your kid to be “cured”, and that makes you vulnerable to charlatans, and it makes you need to find someone whose fault it is. It can’t be something as simple as a roll of the genetic dice, because then you wouldn’t be able to reclaim that Normal Kid you were denied. If it’s Mercury, you think maybe you can get it out of their tissues, so you try dangerous and futile shit like chelation.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 25, 2018 • 4:31:57pm

re: #243 Ace Rothstein

Trump ain’t rich.

No, but he is powerful.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 25, 2018 • 4:33:47pm

re: #245 Eclectic Cyborg

No, but he is powerful.

Pumpkin Pinochet does what he is told.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2018 • 4:33:57pm
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Scout  Jan 25, 2018 • 4:40:41pm

The TPP comment by trump is really big news here in Japan.

Japan was the driving force to save the TPP after trump pulled the U.S. out.

Part of Japan’s campaign to the other 10 economies was that the U.S. might someday come back in.

Judging from the initial reactions from the commentariat, the Tokyo elite’s reaction will be “highly cautious optimism” for something that isn’t even in the gestation phase yet.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2018 • 4:41:42pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2018 • 4:42:29pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2018 • 4:43:21pm

so much shade….

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 25, 2018 • 4:45:29pm

re: #251 Backwoods_Sleuth

so much shade….

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Trump is such a schmuck.

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KerFuFFler  Jan 25, 2018 • 4:47:31pm

I guess I should make a donation to the Guggenheim.

The Trumps Wanted To A Borrow A Van Gogh For The White House Instead They Were Offered A Toilet

“If the Trumps want a Van Gogh, they should go buy one for themselves. After all, Trump loves to pretend that he is a billionaire. It takes a ton of entitlement and nerve to ask to borrow a Van Gogh, not for public display but for the private residence. The Trumps are living in one of the greatest museums in the world. The White House is a treasure. It doesn’t need a Van Gogh to spruce things up.”

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 25, 2018 • 4:48:02pm

The C in CDC is “Centers.” Many get it wrong.

Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
cdc.gov
As the nation’s health protection agency, CDC saves lives and protects people from health, safety, and security threats.

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 25, 2018 • 4:49:03pm
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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jan 25, 2018 • 4:52:32pm

How stupid are the Moon landing deniers? This stupid:

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 25, 2018 • 4:53:54pm

re: #256 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

JFC I think we’ve found a new level of stupid.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 25, 2018 • 4:58:59pm

re: #253 KerFuFFler

I guess I should make a donation to the Guggenheim.

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I have to wonder if Trump realized he was being trolled. Knowing Trump, he probably likes the solid gold toilet.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 25, 2018 • 4:59:12pm

re: #256 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 25, 2018 • 5:00:10pm

re: #256 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

How stupid are the Moon landing deniers? This stupid:

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If you won’t even bother to do the most basic level of research, nothing I say, do, or show will even register with you.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 25, 2018 • 5:00:35pm

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 25, 2018 • 5:05:02pm

I was watching CNN at lunch time, and they had a segment on a new lawsuit concerning Betsy Devos rolling back Obama era university guidelines for investigating sexual assault allegations. They showed a student at a press conference announcing the lawsuit, and she said her university told her her complaint was not a priority. Then she said it was Johns Hopkins University, my alma mater! So that was depressing; I called the University President’s Office to express my concern.

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Kragar  Jan 25, 2018 • 5:05:46pm
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Skip Intro  Jan 25, 2018 • 5:08:20pm

re: #251 Backwoods_Sleuth

so much shade….

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Can he ever just shut up?

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Skip Intro  Jan 25, 2018 • 5:11:26pm

re: #253 KerFuFFler

Bundy Trump.

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EPR-radar  Jan 25, 2018 • 5:12:37pm

re: #263 Kragar

For Trump supporters that insist that Trump is not racist, there is obviously no such thing as racism. E.g. they would have us believe nonsense like:

Bull Connor turned fire hoses on black protestors on hot days to prevent them from getting heat stroke.

The KKK burns crosses as a way to dispose of excess firewood and to celebrate Christianity.

The US slave trade was beneficial for the captured African slaves because they (sometimes) had the opportunity to be converted to Christianity as a result.

North Carolina tried to change its voting laws recently out of concern for integrity of the vote, instead of to preferentially discourage blacks from voting.

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Skip Intro  Jan 25, 2018 • 5:18:19pm

Roy Moore asking for money to fight accuser’s lawsuit

Failed Alabama Senate candidate Roy Moore is raising money to pay legal bills stemming from a lawsuit by a woman who accused him of sexual misconduct.

The Moore campaign sent a fundraising email to supporters Wednesday asking for donations to pay his legal expenses related to a suit filed earlier this month by Leigh Corfman.

The email claims Moore has “very minimal” resources after his losing Republican campaign against Democrat Doug Jones. And it says Moore needs as much as $250,000 for a court fight.

The comments are not kind.

Hey Roy, have you reached out to The Foundation for Moral Law yet for donations? Check with Kayla “Tammy-Faye” Moore et al for details on how to apply.

al.com

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Kragar  Jan 25, 2018 • 5:18:54pm
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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jan 25, 2018 • 5:19:27pm

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HappyWarrior  Jan 25, 2018 • 5:20:11pm

re: #255 Ace-o-aces

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He didn’t care but he didn’t feel endangered by the groups FNC and the right went after.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 25, 2018 • 5:21:30pm

re: #268 Kragar

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 25, 2018 • 5:21:59pm
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MsJ  Jan 25, 2018 • 5:22:06pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 25, 2018 • 5:22:24pm

re: #268 Kragar

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No surprise there.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 25, 2018 • 5:22:56pm

re: #273 MsJ

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I believe it. Yikes.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 25, 2018 • 5:23:02pm

re: #272 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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The NYT seems to be flip-flopping between crowning moments of derp and crowning moments of awesome. This is most definitely the latter.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jan 25, 2018 • 5:23:37pm

Just how far will the former county Democratic chair debase himself in pandering to yokel conservatives? This far.

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EPR-radar  Jan 25, 2018 • 5:23:40pm

re: #268 Kragar

That would be a big ‘fuck no’.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 25, 2018 • 5:26:45pm

It’ll be interesting how Sanders does a second time around. I think he’ll struggle with more opponents to better make their cases and thus expose some of his problems as a candidate.

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Skip Intro  Jan 25, 2018 • 5:26:47pm

re: #277 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

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Kragar  Jan 25, 2018 • 5:26:49pm
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Skip Intro  Jan 25, 2018 • 5:27:58pm

re: #279 HappyWarrior

It’ll be interesting how Sanders does a second time around. I think he’ll struggle with more opponents to better make their cases and thus expose some of his problems as a candidate.

And it will interesting to see how Trump handles his next four years in office because Bernie ratfucked the Dems again.

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gocart mozart  Jan 25, 2018 • 5:28:55pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 25, 2018 • 5:29:19pm

re: #282 Skip Intro

And it will interesting to see how Trump handles his next four years in office because Bernie ratfucked the Dems again.

Hopefully he fucks himself before he can fuck the party. I personally think he’s going to wear out his welcome early. But I hear ya. He really fucked things last time.

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Skip Intro  Jan 25, 2018 • 5:30:10pm

re: #284 HappyWarrior

He really seems to get off on doing that. It’s all he appears to live for.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jan 25, 2018 • 5:30:31pm

re: #280 Skip Intro

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 25, 2018 • 5:30:41pm

re: #281 Kragar

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Skip Intro  Jan 25, 2018 • 5:31:26pm

re: #286 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

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HappyWarrior  Jan 25, 2018 • 5:32:10pm

re: #285 Skip Intro

He really seems to get off on doing that. It’s all he appears to live for.

We agree. He’s divisive. I really hope more people see what you and I next year and 2020.

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William Lewis  Jan 25, 2018 • 5:32:40pm

re: #277 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Just how far will the former county Democratic chair debase himself in pandering to yokel conservatives? This far.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 25, 2018 • 5:32:43pm

re: #287 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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Well, let’s be fair. Electing a criminal was, in fact, a victory for Conservatives. They have been getting almost everything they ever wanted, or as much of it as they can ram down Congress’s throat until they give up and pass it. And the crooks managing to elect a crook was astonishing in its audacity and, frankly, the mere fact of its success.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jan 25, 2018 • 5:32:48pm

re: #283 gocart mozart

I knew it! Damn commie draft dodger, sitting in class while I was sweating bullets in Vietnam!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2018 • 5:33:16pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 25, 2018 • 5:33:17pm

re: #282 Skip Intro

And it will interesting to see how Trump handles his next four years in office because Bernie ratfucked the Dems again.

As I have been saying since day one, just like Trump, Bernie is a Russian asset, except promoting ideas on the left, rather than right. He is just as worthless when it comes to minority issues, immigration issues, and probably women’s issues.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 25, 2018 • 5:33:51pm

I swear to God if Bernie is allowed to fuck up the Democratic party again in 2020 I will never donate to another Dem as long as I live.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 25, 2018 • 5:34:17pm

re: #292 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

I knew it! Damn commie draft dodger, sitting in class while I was sweating bullets in Vietnam!

Dude he was living off his mom and grandparents in Hawaii too! You didn’t bleed for this!

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 25, 2018 • 5:34:28pm

Portly Pinochet stated three reasons for firing Mueller.

First, he claimed that a dispute years ago over fees at Trump National Golf Club in Sterling, Va., had prompted Mr. Mueller, the F.B.I. director at the time, to resign his membership. The president also said Mr. Mueller could not be impartial because he had most recently worked for the law firm that previously represented the president’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner. Finally, the president said, Mr. Mueller had been interviewed to return as the F.B.I. director the day before he was appointed special counsel in May.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 25, 2018 • 5:36:37pm

re: #293 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Glad FNC cares about what’s really important. No wonder why their viewers believe Obama caused 9/11 with Saul Alinsky’s aid.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jan 25, 2018 • 5:36:46pm

re: #288 Skip Intro

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Skip Intro  Jan 25, 2018 • 5:36:52pm

Just think how different our world would be if only Hitler had gotten accepted into art school in Austria, then think how much better things would be now if Steven Miller had been born earlier and gotten the part that was made for him in the Rocky Horror Picture Show.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 25, 2018 • 5:37:51pm

re: #297 Ace Rothstein

Portly Pinochet stated three reasons for firing Mueller.

First, he claimed that a dispute years ago over fees at Trump National Golf Club in Sterling, Va., had prompted Mr. Mueller, the F.B.I. director at the time, to resign his membership. The president also said Mr. Mueller could not be impartial because he had most recently worked for the law firm that previously represented the president’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner. Finally, the president said, Mr. Mueller had been interviewed to return as the F.B.I. director the day before he was appointed special counsel in May.

Firing over a golf club petty grievance. Still is wild though. I’ve worked in Sterling before. Know it fairly well.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 25, 2018 • 5:38:39pm

re: #300 Skip Intro

Just think how different our world would be if only Hitler had gotten accepted into art school in Austria, then think how much better things would be now if Steven Miller had been born earlier and gotten the part that was made for him in the Rocky Horror Picture Show.

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Well played.

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The Major  Jan 25, 2018 • 5:42:31pm

re: #126 Ace-o-aces

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The Major  Jan 25, 2018 • 5:43:55pm

re: #129 HappyWarrior

Shit even my friends who love wrestling know this is unlikely to replace the NFL. McMahon is obviously savvy but the NFL has spent years building its brand.

The USFL actually came close enough to pulling it off.

Who fucked it up?

Yep…..TRUMP…..

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HappyWarrior  Jan 25, 2018 • 5:44:33pm

re: #303 The Major

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Who the fuck is Watson to tell us what “Americans” want and you know he’d love it if they praised Trump all the time.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jan 25, 2018 • 5:44:37pm

re: #295 Eclectic Cyborg

I swear to God if Bernie is allowed to fuck up the Democratic party again in 2020 I will never donate to another Dem as long as I live.

I donate to individual candidates and avoid the DNC and its like. Not to donate to any Democrat would be surrendering to Rethug hegemony.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 25, 2018 • 5:45:29pm

re: #303 The Major

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HappyWarrior  Jan 25, 2018 • 5:47:52pm

Watson thinks he can crap all over Twitter but the second those black athletes protest…

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The Major  Jan 25, 2018 • 5:49:09pm

re: #189 jaunte

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The Major  Jan 25, 2018 • 6:01:36pm

re: #253 KerFuFFler

That got rotational play as part of the Top News of BBC World Service (which I am now successfully streaming via the BBC IPlayer app on Andriod since I kicked SiriusXM to the curb for bringing back Steve Bannon to the platform…)

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The Major  Jan 25, 2018 • 6:14:20pm

re: #268 Kragar

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gocart mozart  Jan 25, 2018 • 6:14:38pm
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The Major  Jan 25, 2018 • 6:21:56pm

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