Rep. Matt Gaetz Invited Holocaust Denying White Supremacist Chuck C. Johnson (Who Is NOT ME) to the SOTU

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Chuck C. Johnson, seen here stalking Rep. Maxine Waters on a plane as she slept

In the seemingly interminable Age of the Trump-Thing, Republican politicians have apparently lost all compunctions about associating with known Holocaust deniers and white supremacists, and the latest example of this ugly trend is reported by the Daily Beast: Florida (Congress)Man Invited Infamous Troll Chuck Johnson to Trump’s State of The Union.

Gaetz said that he and Johnson did not discuss the Nunes memo and didn’t interact much at the event at all. Asked if he planned to stay in touch, Gaetz replied: “He has my number.”

Johnson offered a different explanation of how the evening came together. Initially, he said he and Gaetz were introduced by another member of Congress, whom he declined to name. In a separate conversation with The Daily Beast, however, Johnson said that he was invited by several members of Congress but “took Gaetz’s invitation” as “he’s into stuff on the issues that I care about.”

Asked about Gaetz’s differing account, Johnson said, “I’ll go with whatever version Gaetz says because I’m not a gangster rapper.”

The issues that drew him to the congressman, Johnson said, included “weed and bitcoin and Trump and animal welfare.” He said he also likes Gaetz because he has “that fuck you mindset.”

For some reason, Daily Beast reporters Lachlan Markay and Gideon Resnick refrain from pointing out Johnson’s white supremacism or his Holocaust denial, or the fact that he identified himself as a “fascist” in a recent “Ask Me Anything” session on Reddit.

UPDATE at 1/31/18 5:22:35 pm by Charles Johnson

From Politico, we learn that the Capitol Police have Chuck C. Johnson’s name on a list, and flagged him when they learned Gaetz had invited him.

“I had no idea who he was,” Gaetz said Wednesday, disavowing some of the racist views attributed to Johnson, which the congressman said he learned of after they met earlier this week.

But even after Gaetz found out just how controversial Johnson was — the Capitol Police had flagged the name and called Gaetz to inquire about Johnson in a mysterious unrelated matter — the first-term congressman decided not to pull his ticket to President Trump’s speech.

Johnson is probably on the Capitol Police’s watch list because in 2015 he stalked GOP Speaker John Boehner and tried to crash one of his fundraisers, but was detained, questioned and thrown out.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 31, 2018 • 11:35:18am

Gaetz is giving Gohmert and Yolo a run for their money in the Stupidest Person In Congress race.

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Kragar  Jan 31, 2018 • 11:35:19am
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jaunte  Jan 31, 2018 • 11:35:42am
The issues that drew him to the congressman, Johnson said, included “weed and bitcoin and Trump and animal welfare.”

Nice stenography. No further explanation by the reporters of what other issues Chuck is into.

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Kragar  Jan 31, 2018 • 11:38:32am
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Sir John Barron  Jan 31, 2018 • 11:42:06am

re: #4 Kragar

Somebody sounds a little touched in the head

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Kragar  Jan 31, 2018 • 11:42:33am

re: #5 Sir John Barron

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 31, 2018 • 11:43:10am

re: #5 Sir John Barron

Somebody sounds a little touched in the head

Jerome Corsi, so, yeah.

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jaunte  Jan 31, 2018 • 11:43:20am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 31, 2018 • 11:44:39am

re: #6 Kragar

That’s the Deep State - always clever enough to put together big conspiracies without any leaks, but too stupid to make any of them actually work.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 31, 2018 • 11:44:59am

re: #6 Kragar

Kind of amazing how sainted this soon to be released classified, partisan “memo” that no one has seen, has become, above all reproach, cannot be questioned, etc.

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jaunte  Jan 31, 2018 • 11:45:29am

Republicans have apparently decided they’re going to ignore checks and balances if they feel like it.

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Belafon  Jan 31, 2018 • 11:45:53am

re: #6 Kragar

But only on the last day of the first month in even numbered years divisible by 1009.

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MsJ  Jan 31, 2018 • 11:46:42am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 31, 2018 • 11:48:33am

re: #13 MsJ

And it was one of the longest SOTUs, because he read so slowly.

Now you know why they have to do his PDBs with a lot of pictures and very little text. His lips get tired.

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Kragar  Jan 31, 2018 • 11:49:15am

re: #9 Blind Frog Belly White

That’s the Deep State - always clever enough to put together big conspiracies without any leaks, but too stupid to make any of them actually work.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Jan 31, 2018 • 11:49:32am

re: #4 Kragar

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Damn, the deep state sure is lame at trying to off congress critters. Who is running it Wylie E. Coyote?

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bill d. (b.d.)  Jan 31, 2018 • 11:50:38am

re: #4 Kragar

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So the guys who pre-wired the World Trade Center couldn’t even rig a decent train accident?

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makeitstop  Jan 31, 2018 • 11:50:55am

re: #10 Sir John Barron

Kind of amazing how sainted this soon to be released classified, partisan “memo” that no one has seen, has become, above all reproach, cannot be questioned, etc.

That’s why they won’t even release it now. They don’t have to.

It’s taken its place in the Great Wingnut Hall of Things That Are Absolutely True, next to Benghazi and the Seth Rich ‘murder.’

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 31, 2018 • 11:51:09am

re: #4 Kragar

Pun intended.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 31, 2018 • 11:51:56am

My take on a train/vehicle accident

Monty Python - Endless running

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EPR-radar  Jan 31, 2018 • 11:51:58am

re: #10 Sir John Barron

Kind of amazing how sainted this soon to be released classified, partisan “memo” that no one has seen, has become, above all reproach, cannot be questioned, etc.

Much of this nonsense would end if the mainstream media would require verification by non-Republican fact checkers of all statements made by Republicans. Republicans cannot be trusted.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 31, 2018 • 11:52:01am

re: #2 Kragar

Updated/replacement tweet

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Dr. Matt  Jan 31, 2018 • 11:52:57am
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FormerDirtDart  Jan 31, 2018 • 11:53:50am
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dangerman  Jan 31, 2018 • 11:55:18am

re: #2 Kragar

Congressman said he invited a notorious Holocaust denier to the State of the Union because his dad got bronchitis

so did you know he is an admitted holocaust denier and still give him a ticket or didnt you bother to check out who he was before giving him admittance to the sotu?

asking for, well, everybody

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 31, 2018 • 11:56:31am

re: #25 dangerman

so did you know he is an admitted holocaust denier and still give him a ticket or didnt you bother to check out who he was before giving him admittance to the sotu?

asking for, well, everybody

Who hasn’t taken a holocaust-denying white-supremacist to an event when a family member was too sick to go? Makes total sense.
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 31, 2018 • 11:56:46am

re: #4 Kragar

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This is why I would love to see Tweetler get his British style libel law passed and see him cringe when that law is used against Fox, Corsi, SMOTI, Rush, Alex Jones, Mikey Teeney Weeney and especially Ginger Snapped!

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Kragar  Jan 31, 2018 • 11:57:09am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 31, 2018 • 11:58:43am

Finally finished Fire and Fury. Quick take. Confirms what I already felt. Trump is unstable and the factionalism within the WH will bring it down. There are arguably 3-4 factions I’d say in the WH: The Javanka wing, The Bannon wing, the R establishment wing, and the generals.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 31, 2018 • 11:59:13am

re: #28 Kragar

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Excellent move. People’s employment chances have been hurt by these past laws.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:02:45pm

re: #29 HappyWarrior

Finally finished Fire and Fury. Quick take. Confirms what I already felt. Trump is unstable and the factionalism within the WH will bring it down. There are arguably 3-4 factions I’d say in the WH: The Javanka wing, The Bannon wing, the R establishment wing, and the generals.

The R establishment are the ones who are going to be hurt worst by DT.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:03:51pm
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Dr. Matt  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:04:13pm

re: #31 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The R establishment are the ones who are going to be hurt worst by DT.

They are going to be replaced by only further radical right candidates making the teaparty dopes look like moderates.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:04:47pm

re: #32 FormerDirtDart

Top 3 “People Are Saying” posts in Facebook’s Trending News section for the Amtrak crash are all absolutely bonkers conspiracy theories.

nothing is too far-fetched if it fits the narrative and “pisses off liberals”

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HappyWarrior  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:04:56pm

re: #33 Dr. Matt

They are going to be replaced by only further radical right candidates making the teaparty dopes look like moderates.

Yep and that’s why it’s important we take back the House this year.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:05:29pm

re: #31 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The R establishment are the ones who are going to be hurt worst by DT.

They are but as long as Trump gives them what they want on things like tax cuts and others, they’ll stick by him.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:05:55pm

re: #31 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The R establishment are the ones who are going to be hurt worst by DT.

That was pretty obvious during the primaries.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:06:06pm
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dangerman  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:06:55pm

re: #16 bill d. (b.d.)

Damn, the deep state sure is lame at trying to off congress critters. Who is running it Wylie E. Coyote?

Wile e. Coyote…stable genius

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Skip Intro  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:07:05pm

re: #36 HappyWarrior

They are but as long as Trump gives them what they want on things like tax cuts and others, they’ll stick by him.

Have you considered the possibility that they’re all as crazy as Trump?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:07:17pm

re: #32 FormerDirtDart

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:08:59pm

re: #38 FormerDirtDart

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HappyWarrior  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:09:48pm

re: #40 Skip Intro

Have you considered the possibility that they’re all as crazy as Trump?

Of course, I have. I was simply talking about the factionalism within the WH that I gathered from reading Wolff’s book.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:11:06pm

re: #38 FormerDirtDart

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That teacher sounds like a jackass but Kelly’s being a double standard ass and honestly I don’t know how to phrase this without sounding offensive but I get tired of the deification of the military and its members. Not that I don’t appreciate them but too often I see military service used to get someone out of criticism and Kelly is one of those people and I feel bad saying it because I know he lost his son but Kelly’s a jackass in his own right.

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dangerman  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:13:18pm

re: #28 Kragar

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Going back decades!
Good for San fran

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:15:23pm
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BeachDem  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:15:42pm

re: #32 FormerDirtDart

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Why are there wives along on a retreat in the first place?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:15:51pm

re: #46 Blind Frog Belly White

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Yep. I remember that trash.

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ObserverArt  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:16:41pm

From Charles intro of this page; “lost all compunctions about associating with known Holocaust deniers and white supremacists…”

I don’t think there is any lost compunctions at all. It’s birds of a feather flocking together.

And they are crapping all over our government.

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:16:52pm

re: #47 BeachDem

Why aren’t they in session working their asses off for the people?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:17:27pm

re: #47 BeachDem

Why are there wives along on a retreat in the first place?

They heard stories about previous retreats?
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:18:16pm

Just heard about this on Bob Cesca’s Tuesday show.

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Skip Intro  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:18:22pm

re: #43 HappyWarrior

Of course, I have. I was simply talking about the factionalism within the WH that I gathered from reading Wolff’s book.

They’re all competing for the Führer’s favor. Same thing happened in Germany. A completely dysfunctional government composed of groveling toadies whose only purpose is to try to anticipate a totally unstable leader’s wishes on an hour by hour basis.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:18:28pm

re: #46 Blind Frog Belly White

I heard John Kerry was in the Vietnam War.

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Archangelus  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:19:13pm

Something something another one bites the dust….

RS: Trey Gowdy Announces His Retirement

Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-SC) announced his retirement from Congress shortly after some of his Republican colleagues were in a train wreck involving a garbage truck.

The South Carolina Republican abruptly announced Wednesday he will not seek re-election in November but will instead return to the justice system.

“Whatever skills I may have are better utilized in a courtroom than in Congress, and I enjoy our justice system more than our political system,” Gowdy said. “As I look back on my career, it is the jobs that both seek and reward fairness that are most rewarding.”

The 53-year-old Gowdy, a former district attorney and federal prosector, has represented South Carolina’s 4th congressional district since 2011, when he was elected as part of the Tea Party wave.

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Skip Intro  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:19:31pm

re: #46 Blind Frog Belly White

He was pretty instrumental in smearing Obama too. Put out a bullshit book as I recall.

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Skip Intro  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:20:47pm

re: #55 Archangelus

Something something another one bites the dust….

RS: Trey Gowdy Announces His Retirement

He’s heading to a lifetime appointment to the Bench of the Fourth Circuit, I believe, then possibly a seat on the Trump Supreme Court.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:21:05pm

re: #56 Skip Intro

He was pretty instrumental in smearing Obama too. Put out a bullshit book as I recall.

A one man Cottage Industry in CT bullshit.

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Skip Intro  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:21:55pm

re: #58 Blind Frog Belly White

A Worldnut Daily All Star.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:24:15pm

Message received as intended. Brown kids who only know America as their own country are less important than white trash who can’t be bothered to retrain for something other than digging coal.

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ObserverArt  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:25:09pm

re: #11 jaunte

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Republicans have apparently decided they’re going to ignore checks and balances if they feel like it.

All emboldened by Trump ignoring the same.

Seems Trump has opened up an opportunity for this kind of blatant disregard for laws and procedures and the Republicans are going to see how far they can go until they are stopped.

With them packing the courts they probably think there will be no stopping them.

2018 elections are growing more important by the day.

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Kragar  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:25:44pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:25:51pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:26:04pm

re: #60 Blind Frog Belly White

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Message received as intended. Brown kids who only know America as their own country are less important than white trash who can’t be bothered to retrain for something other than digging coal.

We should probably pay the “forgotten people” to dig holes and fill them in. Anything to reduce their destructive rage at not having a productive role in our society.

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Renaissance_Man  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:26:40pm

re: #60 Blind Frog Belly White

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Message received as intended. Brown kids who only know America as their own country are less important than white trash who can’t be bothered to retrain for something other than digging coal.

It’s just ‘All Lives Matter’ rephrased.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:27:40pm

re: #63 Charles Johnson

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HappyWarrior  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:27:40pm

re: #53 Skip Intro

They’re all competing for the Führer’s favor. Same thing happened in Germany. A completely dysfunctional government composed of groveling toadies whose only purpose is to try to anticipate a totally unstable leader’s wishes on an hour by hour basis.

Yeah, that’s been my observation reading about the Third Reich as well. A lot of egos playing off each other for a big ego. I wasn’t aware of how much intense dislikes there were in the inner circle. Bormann hating Goering for example.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:28:13pm

re: #62 Kragar

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This guy really is a pathetic delusional maniac.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:28:45pm

re: #64 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

We should probably pay the “forgotten people” to dig holes and fill them in. Anything to reduce their destructive rage at not having a productive role in our society.

“That ditch is Boss Kean’s ditch. And I told him that dirt in it’s your dirt. What’s your dirt doin’ in his ditch?”

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Archangelus  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:29:28pm

So 8 million fewer people watched the Trump SOTU compared to Obama’s… expect Darth McRoadkill to be ranting incoherently over this sometime soon…

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makeitstop  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:29:56pm

re: #63 Charles Johnson

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Man, once the Deep State goes to work on Nunes, he’s not gonna know what hit him.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:30:11pm

re: #65 Renaissance_Man

It’s just ‘All Lives Matter’ rephrased.

Dreamers are Americans, too.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:31:17pm

re: #69 Blind Frog Belly White

“That ditch is Boss Kean’s ditch. And I told him that dirt in it’s your dirt. What’s your dirt doin’ in his ditch?”

I have not seen Cool Hand Luke. I’ll remedy that personal failure tonight. I’m off tomorrow, so I’ll be up late watching movies and hanging out here.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:32:16pm

re: #72 Blind Frog Belly White

Dreamers are Americans, too.

To us anyone who grew up in America, going to American schools, watching American TV, is just like us, and an American. To them these legal residents are ILLEGALS!1!

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dangerman  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:32:21pm

re: #69 Blind Frog Belly White

“That ditch is Boss Kean’s ditch. And I told him that dirt in it’s your dirt. What’s your dirt doin’ in his ditch?”

I dunno boss

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ericblair  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:33:02pm

re: #66 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Nunes acts like he’s compromised, but might just be a party hack. At least a few Republicans are waking up as they see their party turn against law enforcement.

If you’re trying to create an authoritarian “managed democracy” kleptocracy, it’s probably a stupid idea to go to war with your entire domestic security and intelligence apparatus. But what do I know.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:33:21pm

re: #73 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I have not seen Cool Hand Luke. I’ll remedy that personal failure tonight. I’m off tomorrow, so I’ll be up late watching movies and hanging out here.

Just saw it again this weekend. Great movie.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:33:46pm

re: #72 Blind Frog Belly White

Dreamers are Americans, too.

They’re more American than David Duke ever will be.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:33:52pm

re: #76 ericblair

If you’re trying to create an authoritarian “managed democracy” kleptocracy, it’s probably a stupid idea to go to war with your entire domestic security and intelligence apparatus. But what do I know.

Eric Prince will replace the Obama agencies with a Trump Gestapo.
/half

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Sir John Barron  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:34:12pm

re: #62 Kragar

Democrat dump truck derails Trump train?

This is perfect to divert the news cycle away from Trump unifying the nation with his powerful speech. #TrainCrash

— Alex Jones

BWWWWAHAHHHHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAH

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Sir John Barron  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:35:13pm

re: #60 Blind Frog Belly White

Message received as intended. Brown kids who only know America as their own country are less important than white trash who can’t be bothered to retrain for something other than digging coal.

What was the Dreamers line? No, I couldn’t bear watching.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:35:56pm

re: #74 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

To us anyone who grew up in America, going to American schools, watching American TV, is just like us, and an American. To them these legal residents are ILLEGALS!1!

They think in Blut und Boden terms.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:36:43pm

re: #69 Blind Frog Belly White

“That ditch is Boss Kean’s ditch. And I told him that dirt in it’s your dirt. What’s your dirt doin’ in his ditch?”

I see there’s a band named Boss Kean’s Ditch.

cdbaby.com

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:37:32pm

re: #81 Sir John Barron

What was the Dreamers line? No, I couldn’t bear watching.

“Americans are dreamers, too”.

This was after the “Brown people are coming to rape your wives and daughters and murder you in your bed!” section of last night’s Nuremberg rally.

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lawhawk  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:37:43pm

re: #31 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The R establishment are the ones who are going to be hurt worst by DT.

Disagree: It’s going to be all Americans other than the millionaire class who profit from the tax scam and redistribution of wealth act and the bigot brigade whose policies are being implemented and will fuel rise in hate crimes.

The GOP establishment deserve to be hurt.

GOP delenda est.

They enabled Trump and his compromised and complicit cabal of cronies. They continue enabling by deflecting attention to everyone but Trump.

That’s why every other word out of people like Ryan, McConnell and right wing echo chamber are Clinton did this, FBI needs to be purged, etc.

They have completely abdicated on the rule of law.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:37:59pm

re: #83 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I see there’s a band named Boss Kean’s Ditch.

cdbaby.com

Got any dirt on ‘em?
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:38:31pm

re: #82 Blind Frog Belly White

They think in Blut und Boden terms.

I don’t need to know German to translate that in context.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:40:02pm
Fifteen-time LGPA winner Suzann Pettersen has played golf with Donald Trump. Pettersen has a few things to say about his penchant for being full of shit. In an interview with Norwegian newspaper Verdens Gang Pettersen shared all kinds of amazing thoughts on the times she has played golf with the bigliest person ever in the history of history.

“He cheats like hell … so I don’t quite know how he is in business. They say that if you cheat at golf, you cheat at business. I’m pretty sure he pays his caddy well, since no matter how far into the woods he hits the ball, it’s in the middle of the fairway when we get there,” says Pettersen, laughing heartily in the half-full restaurant.

dailykos.com

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:42:22pm

re: #88 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Unless he always has the same caddy, I’d expect him to PROMISE to tip his caddy well but never follow through, and then threaten to sue if the caddy makes a fuss about it.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:42:34pm
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EPR-radar  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:42:39pm

re: #88 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

How completely unsurprising. Those innumerable Trump NDAs are doubtless hiding vast amounts of this kind of material (and worse).

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:42:44pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:43:14pm

re: #84 Blind Frog Belly White

“Americans are dreamers, too”.

This was after the “Brown people are coming to rape your wives and daughters and murder you in your bed!” section of last night’s Nuremberg rally.

It’s stupid because no one has said we’re not. Trump wants to deport people who know no home but this one.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:44:35pm

re: #92 FormerDirtDart

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Skip Intro  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:45:14pm

re: #88 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

She’s all over the place denying she said that, even though she did. The long arm of Trump touches everyone.

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dangerman  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:46:56pm

re: #86 Blind Frog Belly White

Got any dirt on ‘em?
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+1

but, well, it’s a ditch, so….

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EPR-radar  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:46:58pm

re: #95 Skip Intro

She’s all over the place denying she said that, even though she did. The long arm of Trump touches everyone.

Some fat cats with their hearts in the right places need to start bankrolling people that break Trump NDAs.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:47:57pm
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dangerman  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:49:08pm

re: #90 Stanley Sea

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shorter: since you cant read, we’d be happy to explain it to you

and imo “unfortunately” wasnt necessary

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:49:50pm
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dangerman  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:50:12pm

re: #91 EPR-radar

How completely unsurprising. Those innumerable Trump NDAs are doubtless hiding vast amounts of this kind of material (and worse).

every day i hope one of them has just had enough and cracks, consequences be damned

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dangerman  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:51:15pm

re: #93 HappyWarrior

It’s stupid because no one has said we’re not. Trump wants to deport people who know no home but this one dont look like him.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:52:23pm

re: #90 Stanley Sea

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Sir John Barron  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:52:42pm

The FBI Director, Trump’s Republican appointee, has issued a statement criticizing the “hallowed, sacred, Nunes ‘memo’” and the Trumpbots on Twitter…don’t…believe….the…statement…came…from…the…
FBI.

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Skip Intro  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:53:23pm

re: #98 FormerDirtDart

Waiting for the market to close at 1p.m. PST.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:53:27pm
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makeitstop  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:54:12pm

C’mon, CNN. Drop the damn shoe already.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:54:23pm

re: #100 FormerDirtDart

Maryland state lawmaker introduces “Jared Kushner Act” to block arrests of tenants owing less than $5,000 in rent hill.cm

Where I live, you get an eviction notice if rent is a week late, so I could never owe that much.

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Skip Intro  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:54:56pm

re: #106 FormerDirtDart

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HappyWarrior  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:56:44pm

re: #106 FormerDirtDart

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Wtf.

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calochortus  Jan 31, 2018 • 12:58:47pm

re: #110 HappyWarrior

Wtf.

Hey, scrubs can be blue. No collars though…

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HappyWarrior  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:00:27pm

re: #111 calochortus

Hey, scrubs can be blue. No collars though…

Heh true.

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ipsos  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:01:21pm

CNN nothingburger. There was a meeting in December where Trump asked Rosenstein if he was “on my team.”

*click*

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Charles Johnson  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:01:33pm
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dangerman  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:01:51pm

re: #103 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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just a quibble

“climate change” and “global warming”

…although the terms are used interchangeably because they are causally related, ‘global warming’ and ‘climate change’ refer to different physical phenomena.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:02:30pm

re: #108 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Where I live, you get an eviction notice if rent is a week late, so I could never owe that much.

I get a ‘Seven Day Notice to Cure’ slash eviction threat every couple months. Always some nonsense the management staff has screwed up or the next door neighbors crap.
Just yesterday I delivered a letter in response to a notice to the property manager, and made her sign a copy acknowledging receipt.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:03:07pm
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lawhawk  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:04:32pm

re: #117 Charles Johnson

Of course they are. Of course he is.

The Russia bots know their targets/victims well, and will swarm like locust to attack in attempt to delegitimize people deemed enemies.

The Russians are continuing to manipulate the media and sowing chaos that inures benefits to them.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:05:20pm

re: #117 Charles Johnson

Madness is expected from cult members. It’s part of the package.

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Belafon  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:06:31pm

re: #84 Blind Frog Belly White

“Americans are dreamers, too”.

This was after the “Brown people are coming to rape your wives and daughters and murder you in your bed!” section of last night’s Nuremberg rally.

A lot of Trump supporters don’t actually dream of any kind of future. They contribute nothing to the betterment of this country. And that should be un-American.

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BeachDem  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:06:51pm

re: #70 Archangelus

So 8 million fewer people watched the Trump SOTU compared to Obama’s… expect Darth McRoadkill to be ranting incoherently over this sometime soon…

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State of the Union ratings: Down overall but up for Fox News

President Trump’s first official State of the Union address drew a smaller audience than those of his two predecessors, and that of his first address to Congress last year. It drew a bigger audience than last year, however, for the president’s favorite news channel, Fox News.

tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com

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dangerman  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:07:03pm

re: #118 lawhawk

Of course they are. Of course he is.

The Russia bots know their targets/victims well, and will swarm like locust to attack in attempt to delegitimize people deemed enemies.

The Russians are continuing to manipulate the media and sowing chaos that inures benefits to them.

as long as twitter and facebook enable them

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Sir John Barron  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:07:46pm

re: #117 Charles Johnson

And all the RussiaTrumpbots are rushing over to apologize for their BS…oh wait no they’re not.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:08:57pm
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Bubblehead II  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:09:19pm

Heads up. 16:25 EST. Space X launch

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HappyWarrior  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:09:37pm

re: #117 Charles Johnson

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It’s a cult.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:11:15pm

re: #123 Sir John Barron

And all the RussiaTrumpbots are rushing over to apologize for their BS…oh wait no they’re not.

I’ve never seen a Trumper admit when they’re wrong. Called out the Warren bullshit lie using Snopes, I get told Snopes is liberal propaganda blah blah.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:11:24pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:11:41pm

President Obama was right. You are living on two different planets if you’re getting your news from NPR and FNC.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:12:08pm

re: #128 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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Someone get this snowflake a bottle.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:12:42pm

re: #124 FormerDirtDart

If Nunes or the GOP wanted the ‘memo’ to be taken seriously they would have worked to get something like a bipartisan consensus on its content and release. Of course that didn’t happen because the document is trash.

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Interesting Times  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:13:37pm

Arrrrgh:

…which spawned this mini-thread:

So once more, with feeling - what are practical steps to take to reach those low-info, apathetic voters? What’s a message that appeals to them? Figure that out, and fast.

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Bubblehead II  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:13:41pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:15:19pm

re: #132 Interesting Times

Arrrrgh:

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So once more, with feeling - what are practical steps to take to reach those low-info, apathetic voters? What’s a message that appeals to them? Figure that out, and fast.

I don’t know what Dems are supposed to do with people who don’t want to listen.

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scottslemmons  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:16:18pm

re: #134 HappyWarrior

I don’t know what Dems are supposed to do with people who don’t want to listen.

“JUST WIN!”
“How?”
“JUST WIN!”

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ericblair  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:18:29pm

re: #125 Bubblehead II

Heads up. 16:25 EST. Space X launch

It’s Luxembourg’s government communications satellite. Lux is quite the SATCOM superpower. Not a lot of territory on Earth, but there’s a lot of room up in space.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:18:48pm

I just don’t know what the American people really want. It stumps me that we elected Obama with over 50% of the vote twice and then elected Trump. And yeah I know HRC won the popular vote and I know the Russian misinformation hurt but this should have been a win.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:19:39pm

re: #125 Bubblehead II

Heads up. 16:25 EST. Space X launch

Advance heads up:
Falcon Heavy slated for launch on 6 February, with 18:30-21:30 UTC window

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Bubblehead II  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:20:35pm
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Interesting Times  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:20:53pm

re: #134 HappyWarrior

I don’t know what Dems are supposed to do with people who don’t want to listen.

Note the tweeter isn’t talking about trumpchumps - he’s talking about low-info, apathetic voters (the vanishingly few “swing voters” left). These are the voters whose opinions and votes can change on a dime if you appeal to their frustrations correctly (as Obama did in 2008)

And his point is valid - “Not trump” isn’t good enough. A low-info, apathetic voter will reply, “Yeah, he’s an asshole, but things aren’t that bad so why bother to vote?” This is where you have to go beyond “not trump” and give that person something to vote FOR.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:21:58pm

re: #140 Interesting Times

Note the tweeter isn’t talking about trumpchumps - he’s talking about low-info, apathetic voters (the vanishingly few “swing voters” left). These are the voters whose opinions and votes can change on a dime if you appeal to their frustrations correctly (as Obama did in 2008)

And his point is valid - “Not trump” isn’t good enough. A low-info, apathetic voter will reply, “Yeah, he’s an asshole, but things aren’t that bad so why bother to vote?” This is where you have to go beyond “not trump” and give that person something to vote FOR.

I know. I just don’t know what they’re expecting from the Dems. I think they are offering something to vote for.

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Belafon  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:22:21pm

Someone needs to point out to @jack that if we become a dictatorship, he could be arrested for allowing dissent.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:22:51pm

re: #139 Bubblehead II

Thanks. Watching now.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:22:52pm

re: #136 ericblair

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scottslemmons  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:23:17pm

re: #142 Belafon

Someone needs to point out to @jack that if we become a dictatorship, he could be arrested for allowing dissent.

Jack will be the guy sending dissenters’ names to ICE. Jack is an important cog in the machine.

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retired cynic  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:23:24pm

A day or so ago I talked about our half-coyote dog, that was so precious to us. Her mother was a Shetland Sheepdog (“mini-collie”). Today, sorting papers to throw away, I found the only decent photo ever taken of her. This is in summer coat; in winter she became a real fur-ball.

Edited to add: She was so special. Never hurt a thing. She would chase vehicles, birds in the air, airplanes, and she was fast. Always as alert as you see in the photo. Never a lap dog. Would rarely come to us, especially if we wanted her. Her first family, who gave her up, could stop by and she would be all over them, making sweet noises in her throat and laying on her back in front of them. That behavior even worked for extended members of their family. So she tolerated us, hated being in the house until she got quite old, and then was happy to be in and live on the couch.

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ipsos  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:24:04pm

re: #140 Interesting Times

Note the tweeter isn’t talking about trumpchumps - he’s talking about low-info, apathetic voters (the vanishingly few “swing voters” left). These are the voters whose opinions and votes can change on a dime if you appeal to their frustrations correctly (as Obama did in 2008)

And his point is valid - “Not trump” isn’t good enough. A low-info, apathetic voter will reply, “Yeah, he’s an asshole, but things aren’t that bad so why bother to vote?” This is where you have to go beyond “not trump” and give that person something to vote FOR.

The strategy that works is the one that worked in Alabama:

Pour everything you’ve got into getting PoCs to the polls. Black women, especially, but depending on the state, Hispanics, Asians, what have you.

They get it. They know what two more years of Republicans in Congress and four more years of Trump in the WH will mean. And they don’t have the luxury of taking a privileged “both parties are the same, so why bother” approach.

Give them policies that will benefit them, as the Democratic platform generally does, and candidates who don’t overlook them (dammit, Bernie), and if they turn out in sufficient numbers, they - and all of us, together - win.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:24:06pm

re: #125 Bubblehead II

Heads up. 16:25 EST. Space X launch

T minus One minute

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Bubblehead II  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:24:33pm

T-1

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Bubblehead II  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:25:42pm
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FormerDirtDart  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:26:38pm

Max Q
Vroom, no Boom

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HappyWarrior  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:26:46pm

re: #147 ipsos

The strategy that works is the one that worked in Alabama:

Pour everything you’ve got into getting PoCs to the polls. Black women, especially, but depending on the state, Hispanics, Asians, what have you.

They get it. They know what two more years of Republicans in Congress and four more years of Trump in the WH will mean. And they don’t have the luxury of taking a privileged “both parties are the same, so why bother” approach.

Give them policies that will benefit them, as the Democratic platform generally does, and candidates who don’t overlook them (dammit, Bernie), and if they turn out in sufficient numbers, they - and all of us, together - win.

Sounds good to me.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:27:14pm

re: #150 Bubblehead II

It’s incredible how fast the speed goes up.

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retired cynic  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:27:24pm

re: #146 retired cynic

She was so special. Never hurt a thing. She would chase vehicles, birds in the air, airplanes, and she was fast. Always as alert as you see in the photo. Never a lap dog. Would rarely come to us, especially if we wanted her. Her first family, who gave her up, could stop by and she would be all over them, making sweet noises in her throat and laying on her back in front of them. That behavior even worked for extended members of their family. So she tolerated us, hated being in the house until she got quite old, and then was happy to be in and live on the couch.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:27:49pm

re: #150 Bubblehead II

We have lift off.

Reminder, not 1st stage recovery landing today

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plansbandc  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:28:02pm

re: #62 Kragar

Exactly. Optics people, optics.

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ObserverArt  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:28:19pm

re: #125 Bubblehead II

Heads up. 16:25 EST. Space X launch

Wow…clear pictures today.

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Belafon  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:28:35pm

re: #132 Interesting Times

Arrrrgh:

So once more, with feeling - what are practical steps to take to reach those low-info, apathetic voters? What’s a message that appeals to them? Figure that out, and fast.

Some of this will have to be looked at locally. A lot of whites in conservative states decided that standing up for DACA rather than keeping the government open was a bad thing. They may not want to deport Dreamers, but it better not inconvenience them.

IIRC, though, wasn’t both Doug Jones performance and the elections in VA outside the range of registered voters polling?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:30:03pm

re: #157 ObserverArt

Wow…clear pictures today.

Wait a minute…the Earth doesn’t look flat. Fake!!!
/

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HappyWarrior  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:30:21pm

re: #158 Belafon

Some of this will have to be looked at locally. A lot of whites in conservative states decided that standing up for DACA rather than keeping the government open was a bad thing. They may not want to deport Dreamers, but it better not inconvenience them.

IIRC, though, wasn’t both Doug Jones performance and the elections in VA outside the range of registered voters polling?

Yeah Northam and Gillespie was expected to be neck and neck. And trust me, no one here really thought we’d get that close to taking back the House of Delegates. I think your summary on DACA is unfortunately correct. A lot of more moderate whites may support DACA in principle but as you got at it, they saw the shutdown over it as a bad thing. NOw that sucks but I think these voters can be reached if we explain to them why we need DACA.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:30:39pm

re: #157 ObserverArt

Why is the earth round??

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:31:48pm
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Ace Rothstein  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:32:36pm

12,000 MPH. Just think, if the earth was round, the rocket could circle it in two hours.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:32:49pm

re: #162 FormerDirtDart

NSFW Twitter page unless you work at the beach.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:33:36pm

re: #146 retired cynic

A day or so ago I talked about our half-coyote dog, that was so precious to us. Her mother was a Shetland Sheepdog (“mini-collie”). Today, sorting papers to throw away, I found the only decent photo ever taken of her. This is in summer coat; in winter she became a real fur-ball.

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Beautiful dog.

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Interesting Times  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:33:59pm

re: #158 Belafon

IIRC, though, wasn’t both Doug Jones performance and the elections in VA outside the range of registered voters polling?

VA definitely was, though I’m not sure about Doug Jones (I think his final win was within the polling margin of error).

As for the generic ballot numbers that Jake Tapper posted, I notice the extremely favorable numbers for the Dems in December coincided with the #GOPTaxScam passage and all the bad PR surrounding it. Now that GOPers have had a chance to rebut those points somewhat, their numbers have improved, so it’s imperative to resurrect that narrative at every opportunity, especially when real-world events occur to show how bad and dangerous that bill is (e.g. ads about tax bonuses going to rich shareholders while ordinary workers get pink slips).

Another effective ad would be showing the initial “bonus” check for a worker being literally eaten away by all the other expenses they face (e.g. rising health insurance premiums due to ACA gutting, etc)

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jaunte  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:35:08pm
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ObserverArt  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:35:31pm

re: #137 HappyWarrior

I just don’t know what the American people really want. It stumps me that we elected Obama with over 50% of the vote twice and then elected Trump. And yeah I know HRC won the popular vote and I know the Russian misinformation hurt but this should have been a win.

The American people don’t know what they want. The reason is too many don’t know how government operates and what is dangerous or good.

And as stated before…we have a representative government. It is representative of our overall ignorance and those that vote jumping around to try to find something they don’t seem to have a clue what it is they need.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:35:53pm

re: #161 Ace Rothstein

Why is the earth round??

It’s not…

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HappyWarrior  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:36:19pm

re: #167 jaunte

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Trump supporters are pretty easily triggered huh. Maybe they should stay away from media that criticizes their fuehrer.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:36:20pm

re: #162 FormerDirtDart

What is that? Drink cheap beer and bite on Nintendo controllers?

///

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ericblair  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:37:42pm

re: #144 Ace Rothstein

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bratwurst  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:38:43pm
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jaunte  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:38:48pm

Here’s a footnote in the long history of Russians screwing around with American media, and Americans going along for the ride, because lol$.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:40:00pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:40:22pm

re: #173 bratwurst

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Because Joe knew that tax cut wasn’t going to benefit the people of his state and even if he had voted for your stupid tax cut, you’d be finding some other rationale to force a far right puppet for you and Trumpy on to the people of WV. At least Manchin actually thinks for himself unlike the puppet your party will choose.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:41:43pm

re: #173 bratwurst

WV would be a lot better off if they transitioned to alternative energy jobs instead of tax “cuts” that would add up to $15 bucks a week.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:42:32pm

re: #177 Ace Rothstein

WV would be a lot better off if they transitioned to alternative energy jobs instead of tax “cuts” that would add up to $15 bucks a week.

Yep but don’t tell them that. They don’t want to hear that because alternative energy jobs is just hippie shit to them.

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ObserverArt  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:43:07pm

re: #159 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Wait a minute…the Earth doesn’t look flat. Fake!!!
/

re: #161 Ace Rothstein

Why is the earth round??

Hollywood is doing this to benefit Musk and piss off conservatives and flat-earthers. It’s all CGI done in a studio in LA.

I thought you guys knew this stuff.

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jaunte  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:45:10pm

re: #178 HappyWarrior

Maybe they’re afraid of heights.

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lawhawk  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:45:20pm
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FormerDirtDart  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:47:54pm

BREAKING NEWS

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Sir John Barron  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:47:57pm

re: #181 lawhawk

Even if he hadn’t supported reopening the investigation of HRC the Trumpbot’s claims against him and the Russia investigation are BS.

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allegro  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:48:29pm

re: #89 Blind Frog Belly White

Unless he always has the same caddy, I’d expect him to PROMISE to tip his caddy well but never follow through, and then threaten to sue if the caddy makes a fuss about it.

He makes them sign an NDA.

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lawhawk  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:50:16pm

Trump extreme vetting results in hiring all the best people.

CDC director resigns over conflicts of interest revealed by investigative journalists who noted she was buying/selling pharma and tobacco stocks - products she has some regulatory authority over.

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ObserverArt  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:50:20pm

re: #177 Ace Rothstein

WV would be a lot better off if they transitioned to alternative energy jobs instead of tax “cuts” that would add up to $15 bucks a week.

Which is what Hillary wanted to do for them.

It was all ignored. Sometimes waiting on Trump and showing an empty podium does that. Other times they watched Fox that wouldn’t have ever reported it.

And then there are the times where people are just too fucking lazy or up their own asses to learn about the candidates on things like the internet, etc.

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MsJ  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:50:47pm

re: #175 FormerDirtDart

There’s some level of Take That, Motherfucker in there somewhere.

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dangerman  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:51:31pm

re: #132 Interesting Times

Arrrrgh:

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So once more, with feeling - what are practical steps to take to reach those low-info, apathetic voters? What’s a message that appeals to them? Figure that out, and fast.

with deference to everyone who’s already commented on this
yes, the trend is shrinking from where it was
and there were many polls over 10+ and some at 15+

2 points now cited is a single monmouth poll - the trend down is to more like +6-7

it doesnt mean anybody did or didnt do anything specific

it may not have anything to do with messaging - certainly in the last 30 days

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dangerman  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:52:20pm

re: #159 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Wait a minute…the Earth doesn’t look flat. Fake!!!
/

flat as a coin, yup /

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Kragar  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:52:37pm
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jaunte  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:52:47pm

Wonkette:

OK, so did you hear the one about the Devin Nunes staffer who was once (in 2016) given a “U R TOO STUPID 2 LAWYER” badge to sew into his underwear by a US district court judge? It’s more properly called an “order of ineptitude,” it’s rarely given out, and yet it was bestowed upon Kash Patel, the lawyer/staffer who headed up the team that wrote Devin Nunes’s Very Dumb Bullshit Memo. Sounds like Mr. Patel found the right congressman to work for!
wonkette.com

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MsJ  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:52:49pm
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KGxvi  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:54:26pm

re: #168 ObserverArt

The American people don’t know what they want. The reason is too many don’t know how government operates and what is dangerous or good.

And as stated before…we have a representative government. It is representative of our overall ignorance and those that vote jumping around to try to find something they don’t seem to have a clue what it is they need.

I think there are a lot of people who want vastly different things. We see on issues like immigration. Those of us in states most effected by immigration (port and border states, with large cities) tend to want more immigration. Those furthest away from immigration tend to want less immigration.

My gut says that on most issues there’s 40-50% that want one thing, probably 35-45% that want something else, and then a middle group of 5-30% that is somewhere in between. That is a problem when our system of government is designed to generate consensus on issues as much as possible.

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MsJ  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:58:49pm

I hadn’t realized Megyn Kelly was one of the pundits on teevee after the SOTU.

Thankfully I didn’t watch any of that shit. That would have infuriated me.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 31, 2018 • 1:59:31pm

re: #194 MsJ

I hadn’t realized Megyn Kelly was one of the pundits on teevee after the SOTU.

Thankfully I didn’t watch any of that shit. That would have infuriated me.

We can only stand so much.

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Nyet  Jan 31, 2018 • 2:00:40pm
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dangerman  Jan 31, 2018 • 2:02:54pm

re: #193 KGxvi

I think there are a lot of people who want vastly different things. We see on issues like immigration. Those of us in states most effected by immigration (port and border states, with large cities) tend to want more immigration. Those furthest away from immigration tend to want less immigration.

My gut says that on most issues there’s 40-50% that want one thing, probably 35-45% that want something else, and then a middle group of 5-30% that is somewhere in between. That is a problem when our system of government is designed to generate consensus on issues as much as possible.

what has gone wrong is reconciling the bold - both by government (congress and the prez) and the parties / people in general

both (or three) points of view used to be valid. then there used to be a negotiation, an eventual coming together and agreeing on a “common good”

one side wont play by those rules any more so politics is no longer a clash of value systems, each of which is in some way valid - a competition between basically well-intentioned people who see the world differently

it has become, not even a conflict of interests, but instead a degenerative, struggle for power in which ONE side with righteous indignation believes only the other is and can be capable of behaving despicably

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KGxvi  Jan 31, 2018 • 2:07:24pm

re: #197 dangerman

what has gone wrong is reconciling the bold - both by government (congress and the prez) and the parties / people in general

both (or three) points of view used to be valid. then there used to be a negotiation, an eventual coming together and agreeing on a “common good”

one side wont play by those rules any more so politics is no longer a clash of value systems, each of which is in some way valid - a competition between basically well-intentioned people who see the world differently

it has become, not even a conflict of interests, but instead a degenerative, struggle for power in which ONE side with righteous indignation believes only the other is and can be capable of behaving despicably

All of this.

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darthstar  Jan 31, 2018 • 2:12:57pm

This is an interesting point. Gowdy’s all IMMA GTFO! and Schiff is just pissed that Nunes is a Russian tool and there’s nothing he can do about it.

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Renaissance_Man  Jan 31, 2018 • 2:13:17pm

re: #162 FormerDirtDart

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My god that take is genius.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 31, 2018 • 2:13:43pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 31, 2018 • 2:15:49pm

Folks, let me cheer you up. Pics of my Birthday Dinner at Taylor’s Steak House in Los Angeles—sitting at the booth one Mr. F Sinatra, Esq used to dine at..

#1—Their made from scratch Mushroom Soup…sure ain’t the stuff in a Campbell’s can…

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KGxvi  Jan 31, 2018 • 2:16:17pm

re: #199 darthstar

This is an interesting point. Gowdy’s all IMMA GTFO! and Schiff is just pissed that Nunes is a Russian tool and there’s nothing he can do about it.

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How fucked up do things have to be that Trey fucking Gowdy wants out?

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Belafon  Jan 31, 2018 • 2:17:10pm

re: #202 Joe Bacon 🌹

Folks, let me cheer you up. Pics of my Birthday Dinner at Taylor’s Steak House in Los Angeles—sitting at the booth one Mr. F Sinatra, Esq used to dine at..

#1—Their made from scratch Mushroom Soup…sure ain’t the stuff in a Campbell’s can…

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Since I cannot partake in that, how is it supposed to cheer me up? :)

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JordanRules  Jan 31, 2018 • 2:17:33pm

re: #202 Joe Bacon 🌹

Yesss!
Happy Birthday Joe!

I love your ‘LA classics’ food pics!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 31, 2018 • 2:17:42pm

Course #2—The Taylor’s Molly Salad—and they put real bacon on it for Mr. Bacon…

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Belafon  Jan 31, 2018 • 2:18:13pm

re: #197 dangerman

what has gone wrong is reconciling the bold - both by government (congress and the prez) and the parties / people in general

both (or three) points of view used to be valid. then there used to be a negotiation, an eventual coming together and agreeing on a “common good”

one side wont play by those rules any more so politics is no longer a clash of value systems, each of which is in some way valid - a competition between basically well-intentioned people who see the world differently

it has become, not even a conflict of interests, but instead a degenerative, struggle for power in which ONE side with righteous indignation believes only the other is and can be capable of behaving despicably

The only way to defeat this attitude is to keep defeating them in elections over and over until they give way to the next generation.

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scottslemmons  Jan 31, 2018 • 2:18:15pm

re: #203 KGxvi

How fucked up do things have to be that Trey fucking Gowdy wants out?

“I’m a judge now! You can’t charge me with anything I did in Congress now that I’m a judge!”
(cops show Gowdy law)
“Fuck!”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 31, 2018 • 2:18:55pm

Course #3—Taylor’s London Broil with Horseradish Cream on the side…

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darthstar  Jan 31, 2018 • 2:19:57pm
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plansbandc  Jan 31, 2018 • 2:20:12pm

re: #202 Joe Bacon 🌹

Gimme.

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Citizen K  Jan 31, 2018 • 2:20:19pm

….what the sweet goddamn fuck?

Trump officials considered contentious method to ‘reverse’ undocumented teen’s abortion

An anti-abortion activist who was appointed by Donald Trump to head a federal agency that detains undocumented immigrant children considered using a highly contentious and untested technique to stop a teenager from completing an abortion that was already in process, it has emerged.

Scott Lloyd, the Trump administration’s pick as director of the Office of Refugee Resettlement, raised the prospect last March of administering the hormone progesterone to a 17-year-old girl from El Salvador who had entered the US illegally and was being held in custody in San Antonio, Texas. The procedure is unrecognized by the medical profession as a means of reversing abortion and has side-effects attached to it.

Lloyd’s plan to apply the controversial hormone method, first reported by Vice News, was revealed in court documents disclosed in an ACLU lawsuit that seeks to stop the Trump administration from blocking access to abortions by female immigrants in the ORR’s care. Since Lloyd took over the agency last year, it has been accused by civil rights groups of effectively holding girls hostage in an attempt to negate their constitutional right to terminate their pregnancies.

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ObserverArt  Jan 31, 2018 • 2:20:24pm

re: #203 KGxvi

How fucked up do things have to be that Trey fucking Gowdy wants out?

If you get a chance read through the last thread, you will see a opening on a Fed court in South Carolina has opened up. Speculation is Gowdy might get appointed to that by The Trump Monster.

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darthstar  Jan 31, 2018 • 2:20:49pm

re: #203 KGxvi

How fucked up do things have to be that Trey fucking Gowdy wants out?

The early turd gets the TV gig.

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dangerman  Jan 31, 2018 • 2:23:01pm

re: #206 Joe Bacon 🌹

Course #2—The Taylor’s Molly Salad—and they put real bacon on it for Mr. Bacon…

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is that special treatment only for you or can anyone named bacon get in on it?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 31, 2018 • 2:24:01pm

re: #215 dangerman

is that special treatment only for you or can anyone named bacon get in on it?

One way to find out—Pay a visit to Taylor’s and say your name is Scott Baio…and then ask for the bacon on Molly Salad!

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MsJ  Jan 31, 2018 • 2:24:14pm

re: #209 Joe Bacon 🌹

Course #3—Taylor’s London Broil with Horseradish Cream on the side…

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What kind of meat is London Broil? Is there a cut called that or is it something else?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 31, 2018 • 2:24:41pm

re: #215 dangerman

is that special treatment only for you or can anyone named bacon get in on it?

I’m sure this guy wants to know:

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dangerman  Jan 31, 2018 • 2:25:19pm

re: #207 Belafon

The only way to defeat this attitude is to keep defeating them in elections over and over until they give way to the next generation.

it wasnt easy to concisely identify the problem - and it took a long time

still thats a cakewalk compared to, “yeah and now what?”

you’re right - registration, elections, voting, education
waiting for a generation to die out, man that’s some natural selection right there

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EPR-radar  Jan 31, 2018 • 2:26:25pm

re: #203 KGxvi

How fucked up do things have to be that Trey fucking Gowdy wants out?

Gowdy is probably hoping to be named to the Federal Judiciary.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 31, 2018 • 2:26:30pm

re: #217 MsJ

What kind of meat is London Broil? Is there a cut called that or is it something else?

London Broil isn’t cut from a specific part of the steer, but it gets the name from the way it’s prepared.

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Belafon  Jan 31, 2018 • 2:26:30pm

re: #219 dangerman

it wasnt easy to concisely identify the problem - and it took a long time

still thats a cakewalk compared to, “yeah and now what?”

you’re right - registration, elections, voting, education
waiting for a generation to die out, man that’s some natural selection right there

Not thinking in terms of death so much as the next generation taking over politically.

Edit: That could also mean the death of the Republican party and a new one forming.

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TedStriker  Jan 31, 2018 • 2:26:54pm

re: #217 MsJ

What kind of meat is London Broil? Is there a cut called that or is it something else?

re: #221 Joe Bacon 🌹

London Broil isn’t cut from a specific part of the steer, but it gets the name from the way it’s prepared.

Typically, “London broil” is made from skirt steak, but the name refers to how the dish is made (which isn’t from London or anywhere else in Great Britain at all, but from here in the good ol’ US of A).

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 31, 2018 • 2:27:02pm

re: #218 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m sure this guy wants to know:

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Hey, that guy gets chateaubriand when he visits…

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KGxvi  Jan 31, 2018 • 2:27:44pm

re: #224 Joe Bacon 🌹

Hey, that guy gets chateaubriand when he visits…

If you’re going to get chateaubriand somewhere in Southern California, I’d suggest the Cellar in Fullerton.

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SteelPH  Jan 31, 2018 • 2:28:19pm

re: #212 Citizen K

….what the sweet goddamn fuck?

Trump officials considered contentious method to ‘reverse’ undocumented teen’s abortion

This is so unbelievably fucked up.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 31, 2018 • 2:28:34pm

re: #225 KGxvi

If you’re going to get chateaubriand somewhere in Southern California, I’d suggest the Cellar in Fullerton.

I’d also have to bring a bar of gold there to pay for it!

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dangerman  Jan 31, 2018 • 2:29:13pm

re: #216 Joe Bacon 🌹

One way to find out—Pay a visit to Taylor’s and say your name is Scott Baio…and then ask for the bacon on Molly Salad!

yeah i wont be doing that anytime.
if i do get out that way, i’ll look you up and you can order for both of us cause my id doesnt say anything near ‘bacon’

though i do have a copy of this:

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KGxvi  Jan 31, 2018 • 2:30:28pm

re: #227 Joe Bacon 🌹

I’d also have to bring a bar of gold there to pay for it!

Bar of silver at most. Unless you’re getting the lobster bisque and a souffle (which, really you should).

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Stanley Sea  Jan 31, 2018 • 2:31:33pm

re: #209 Joe Bacon 🌹

A very happy Birthday to you Joe!

And yes, I went to their website & looked at the menu. As I always do when you post one of the classic restaurants.

YUM

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Jay C  Jan 31, 2018 • 2:32:28pm

re: #223 TedStriker

re: #217 MsJ

What kind of meat is London Broil? Is there a cut called that or is it something else?

re: #221 Joe Bacon 🌹

London Broil isn’t cut from a specific part of the steer, but it gets the name from the way it’s prepared.

Typically, “London broil” is made from skirt steak, but the name refers to how it’s made (which isn’t from Britain at all, but from here).

Not to argue just for arguments’ sake, but isn’t “London Broil” typically a thick cut of round steak, not the skirt?
(PS: the stuff at Taylor’s still looks good: whatever its provenance)

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TedStriker  Jan 31, 2018 • 2:34:23pm

re: #231 Jay C

Not to argue just for arguments’ sake, but isn’t “London Broil” typically a thick cut of round steak, not the skirt?
(PS: the stuff at Taylor’s still looks good: whatever its provenance)

I’ve seen London broil call for either cut; Alton Brown, when dealing with skirt steaks for fajitas on an episode of Good Eats, has said that London broil calls for skirt steak, for example.

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Citizen K  Jan 31, 2018 • 2:35:49pm

….what the double fuck.

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A Mom Anon  Jan 31, 2018 • 2:40:09pm

re: #233 Citizen K

Hubris and stupid. They haven’t been stopped so far, and think they can do anything, including changing law and protocols on the fly. As long as it favors them, who needs rules?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 31, 2018 • 2:40:53pm

re: #233 Citizen K

….what the double fuck.

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The complete subjugation of the Republican Party to Putin is now in plain sight for all to see—except the brainwashed GOP base…

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 31, 2018 • 2:40:59pm

re: #5 Sir John Barron

A little?

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Targetpractice  Jan 31, 2018 • 2:41:22pm

re: #234 A Mom Anon

Hubris and stupid. They haven’t been stopped so far, and think they can do anything, including changing law and protocols on the fly. As long as it favors them, who needs rules?

Ayep, the Speaker and Majority Leader are letting this shit happen, so why stop now?

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darthstar  Jan 31, 2018 • 2:41:29pm

re: #228 dangerman

yeah i wont be doing that anytime.
if i do get out that way, i’ll look you up and you can order for both of us cause my id doesnt say anything near ‘bacon’

though i do have a copy of this:

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One of my co-workers, nice fellow from Ohio (conservative, Xian, yeah, likes Trump, but he’s a goofy fucker who is kind of endearing) discovered that cooked bacon doesn’t weigh shit and has taken to filling a box of it from the breakfast buffet at Whole Foods - says it only costs about $4.

Not exactly sure why he adopted me as his work buddy. I guess I’m just too damn friendly and accessible. So I fuck with him in gentle ways at the office on occasion. So long as he doesn’t try to convert me we’re good. The bacon thing is weird though.

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JordanRules  Jan 31, 2018 • 2:42:38pm
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Skip Intro  Jan 31, 2018 • 2:43:46pm

re: #132 Interesting Times

Arrrrgh:

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So once more, with feeling - what are practical steps to take to reach those low-info, apathetic voters? What’s a message that appeals to them? Figure that out, and fast.

I don’t know, but whatever it is it has to run of Fox and Limbaugh because that’s all low information voters watch.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 31, 2018 • 2:44:05pm

re: #239 JordanRules

20 hours and not counting because I have other stuff to do…

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scottslemmons  Jan 31, 2018 • 2:44:06pm

re: #212 Citizen K

….what the sweet goddamn fuck?

Trump officials considered contentious method to ‘reverse’ undocumented teen’s abortion

…Do they not understand how pregnancies work? Or abortions? Or, I dunno, the flow of time?

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JordanRules  Jan 31, 2018 • 2:44:44pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 31, 2018 • 2:45:14pm
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FormerDirtDart  Jan 31, 2018 • 2:46:07pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 31, 2018 • 2:47:02pm
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Romantic Heretic  Jan 31, 2018 • 2:47:27pm

re: #31 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It’s their own damned fault for dumping any ethics in pursuit of power.

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Citizen K  Jan 31, 2018 • 2:48:21pm

re: #242 scottslemmons

These are the same folks who promoted someone who said, publicly and in a hearing for her nomination that ‘CO2 can’t be a pollutant because we’re made of carbon’. The same folks who have barred scientists in the EPA from acting in an advisory role, and replaced them with literal industry flacks.

They don’t give a shit about science, long as it ‘feels’ right, and it ‘feels’ right that they can take autonomy away from someone they don’t see as human anyways and make them take their abortion back, because FREEDOM, MOTHERFUCKERS.

Jesus christ, I can’t stand this shit.

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Kragar  Jan 31, 2018 • 2:49:10pm

This alternate universe we live in is getting freakier every fucking day

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KGxvi  Jan 31, 2018 • 2:49:21pm

re: #245 FormerDirtDart

Republicans have a majority in both houses of congress and the presidency. They could pass a balanced budget without a single Democratic vote, and yet…

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scottslemmons  Jan 31, 2018 • 2:49:32pm

re: #242 scottslemmons

…Do they not understand how pregnancies work? Or abortions? Or, I dunno, the flow of time?

Okay, according to Wikipedia, progesterone can be used as a medication for pregnancy support, basically to prevent “preterm birth in women at risk for preterm birth.” Not a doctor, but maybe it could be used to stop the body from expelling the dead fetus — but it’s still a dead fetus. And if the abortion has already taken place, it ain’t going to put the dead fetus back into the woman.

Republicans are weird and dumb.

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Targetpractice  Jan 31, 2018 • 2:52:06pm

re: #249 Kragar

This alternate universe we live in is getting freakier every fucking day

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Did I fall into the Mirror Universe when I wasn’t paying attention?

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 31, 2018 • 2:52:45pm

re: #76 ericblair

If you’re trying to create an authoritarian “managed democracy” kleptocracy, it’s probably a stupid idea to go to war with your entire domestic security and intelligence apparatus. But what do I know.

The GOP thinks this is a war they can win since ‘conservatives’ are incapable of losing a war of any kind.

And when they lose it won’t be their fault.

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KGxvi  Jan 31, 2018 • 2:54:32pm

re: #252 Targetpractice

Did I fall into the Mirror Universe when I wasn’t paying attention?

Not only that, but there was a mirror on the other side and you kept falling. We’re through like 6 or 7 realities at this point.

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jaunte  Jan 31, 2018 • 2:54:35pm
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jaunte  Jan 31, 2018 • 2:55:16pm

I think Bad Faith and False Information are actually White House staffers.

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TedStriker  Jan 31, 2018 • 2:56:28pm

re: #246 Backwoods_Sleuth

Coal is Donald Trump’s only black friend.

— Juan P.E. ❄️ 🇵🇷 (@jrivera64) January 31, 2018

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KGxvi  Jan 31, 2018 • 2:57:13pm

re: #256 jaunte

I think Bad Faith and False Information are actually White House staffers.

No, Bad Faith and False Information are bands, they played the Warped Tour last year

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ObserverArt  Jan 31, 2018 • 2:59:52pm

re: #256 jaunte

I think Bad Faith and False Information are actually White House staffers.

I think it is the title of their playbook.

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dangerman  Jan 31, 2018 • 3:02:50pm

re: #253 Romantic Heretic

The GOP thinks this is a war they can win since ‘conservatives’ are incapable of losing a war of any kind.

And when they lose it won’t be their fault.

…and it didnt happen

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 31, 2018 • 3:02:52pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 31, 2018 • 3:08:56pm
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FormerDirtDart  Jan 31, 2018 • 3:09:25pm
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weave  Jan 31, 2018 • 3:10:25pm

So I haven’t been on much today but this was seriously posted this morning on my Facebook. My reply was before I even knew the driver of the truck died. And she’s still not backing down. As if someone is going to park a truck in front of a 79 MPH train just to help provide a distraction for one news cycle.

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ObserverArt  Jan 31, 2018 • 3:11:34pm

re: #261 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I’d add to that list. Wasn’t there speculation the Trumps never voted much and some didn’t know where to vote or register?

I think there was a time when this much bullshit from one family would have turned them into a laughingstock in this country never to be taken seriously

Now the same family is taken seriously for their bullshit and our country is the laughing stock.

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MsJ  Jan 31, 2018 • 3:11:55pm

re: #223 TedStriker

Typically, “London broil” is made from skirt steak, but the name refers to how the dish is made (which isn’t from London or anywhere else in Great Britain at all, but from here in the good ol’ US of A).

Skirt steak is my absolute favorite steak. I had one last night.

Imma gonna have to look up how you make London broil.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 31, 2018 • 3:12:46pm
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jaunte  Jan 31, 2018 • 3:12:53pm
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MsJ  Jan 31, 2018 • 3:13:19pm

re: #229 KGxvi

Bar of silver at most. Unless you’re getting the lobster bisque and a souffle (which, really you should).

I’m making lobster bisque this weekend. I’m excited!

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scottslemmons  Jan 31, 2018 • 3:13:36pm

re: #264 weave

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So I haven’t been on much today but this was seriously posted this morning on my Facebook. My reply was before I even knew the driver of the truck died. And she’s still not backing down. As if someone is going to park a truck in front of a 79 MPH train just to help provide a distraction for one news cycle.

Tell her you have irrefutable proof that the crash was planned by the Rosicrucians, but you can only reveal the evidence to non-Rosicrucians.

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darthstar  Jan 31, 2018 • 3:13:48pm

re: #249 Kragar

This alternate universe we live in is getting freakier every fucking day

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KGxvi  Jan 31, 2018 • 3:14:00pm

re: #263 FormerDirtDart

Literally unconstitutional. Fourteenth Amendment, Section 2, first fucking sentence:

Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed.

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plansbandc  Jan 31, 2018 • 3:14:15pm

re: #256 jaunte

It’s the Republican motto.

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jaunte  Jan 31, 2018 • 3:15:40pm
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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jan 31, 2018 • 3:16:00pm

re: #76 ericblair

If you’re trying to create an authoritarian “managed democracy” kleptocracy, it’s probably a stupid idea to go to war with your entire domestic security and intelligence apparatus. But what do I know.

I’ve thought about that seeming inconsistency. They can only believe that they have a replacement in the wings, a combination of party vigilantes, church militia, local and state law enforcement, and private contractors. This substitution is necessary because of the way conservative voters tend to see the Federal security apparatus. To them, it is the muscle behind gun laws, civil rights, and environmental regulation: that is, all the things they hate.

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ObserverArt  Jan 31, 2018 • 3:17:15pm

re: #264 weave

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So I haven’t been on much today but this was seriously posted this morning on my Facebook. My reply was before I even knew the driver of the truck died. And she’s still not backing down. As if someone is going to park a truck in front of a 79 MPH train just to help provide a distraction for one news cycle.

Wrong liberal! Terrorists loyal to their cause blow themselves up all time. Demorats are terrorists and are out to take out congress. Open your eyes…watch Fox, they’ll tell you.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 31, 2018 • 3:18:08pm

Because no lizard will miss him…

Facebook

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jan 31, 2018 • 3:23:44pm

Another reason for destroying Federal law enforcement: It is the only entity that reasonably presents a threat to the system of Russian subversion and influence in this country. I believe that this extends far beyond the Trump campaign. It is well documented that this influence campaign predates Trump’s declaration of his candidacy by years. There is good evidence that it extends to the state and local level politically, and into the most minor media.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 31, 2018 • 3:23:58pm

re: #277 I Would Prefer Not To

Because no lizard will miss him…

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I gotta go with #5: The Pinhead

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ObserverArt  Jan 31, 2018 • 3:24:15pm

I wonder if the very strange Carter Page is being watched by the FBI all the time. The dude is by far one of the strangest characters in this whole Russian thing. It is going to be very interesting to see where he figures into it all.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Jan 31, 2018 • 3:28:07pm

Just paged the latest on the Las Vegas massacre. The usual right-wing freaks have been spinning desperately, trying to come up with an alternative narrative that blames liberals, brown people and god knows who else on their list for yet another mass murder committed by an angry white man.

The latest from Reddit - they seem to have seized upon a visit by a Saudi prince, and the shooting was a false flag to cover up an arms deal gone bad because REASONS

Must be the Saudis because something something MOOSLIMS!!!
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teleskiguy  Jan 31, 2018 • 3:31:17pm
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Targetpractice  Jan 31, 2018 • 3:33:29pm

re: #274 jaunte

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“Uhm…er…SQUIRREL!!!”

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teleskiguy  Jan 31, 2018 • 3:39:30pm

FTR, I’ve skied Baldy Chute at Alta, Palmyra Peak at Telluride, Highland Bowl at Aspen Highlands, and Billboard at Silverton Mountain.

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teleskiguy  Jan 31, 2018 • 3:40:39pm
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Stanley Sea  Jan 31, 2018 • 3:44:59pm

re: #279 Backwoods_Sleuth

I gotta go with #5: The Pinhead

#16 The Wall Street

GAH

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Decatur Deb  Jan 31, 2018 • 3:45:35pm

re: #275 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

I’ve thought about that seeming inconsistency. They can only believe that they have a replacement in the wings, a combination of party vigilantes, church militia, local and state law enforcement, and private contractors. This substitution is necessary because of the way conservative voters tend to see the Federal security apparatus. To them, it is the muscle behind gun laws, civil rights, and environmental regulation: that is, all the things they hate.

Blackwater/Xe/Academi/?

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Stanley Sea  Jan 31, 2018 • 3:48:34pm

Xenophobia polled better.

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Targetpractice  Jan 31, 2018 • 3:53:23pm

re: #288 Stanley Sea

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Xenophobia polled better.

Plus it would have been impossible for him to promise all this new spending and promise to tackle the deficit considering the $1.5 trillion hole he spent the first 20 minutes extolling.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 31, 2018 • 3:58:08pm

Gotta laugh.

Sorry Beach

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 31, 2018 • 4:03:18pm

re: #290 Stanley Sea

Gotta laugh.

Sorry Beach

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wait a minute…the dog was trained to attack someone who is surrendering?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 31, 2018 • 4:04:25pm
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Ace Rothstein  Jan 31, 2018 • 4:05:07pm

re: #290 Stanley Sea

The dog hates Trump voters, obviously.

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BeachDem  Jan 31, 2018 • 4:07:11pm

re: #268 jaunte

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And as DoktorZoom points out, this family that the Post called blue collar:

Day after the election, Dr. Ripepi — his title prominently mentioned in the first graf — was the subject of ANOTHER piece by the same writer, to illustrate that some Trump voters are actually very sophisticated and well-educated.

nypost.com

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Decatur Deb  Jan 31, 2018 • 4:08:05pm

I don’t know if I can continue commenting at LGF. It might be a conflict of interest if I accept the Republican National Committee’s invitation and make myself available for President Trump’s PRESIDENTIAL ADVISORY BOARD. It’s very tempting. For a low $45 initiation fee I could be in a position to advise The President to go fuck himself.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jan 31, 2018 • 4:08:25pm

the trumpksyites have endowed “the memo” with sooper majik investigation powers and have sold all their earthly goods on the expectation of being raptured into paradise the day it is finally released

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Targetpractice  Jan 31, 2018 • 4:09:09pm

re: #295 Decatur Deb

I don’t know if I can continue commenting at LGF. It might be a conflict of interest if I accept the Republican National Committee’s invitation and make myself available for President Trump’s PRESIDENTIAL ADVISORY BOARD. It’s very tempting. For a low $45 initiation fee I could be in a position to advise The President to go fuck himself.

Only $45? Do they take credit cards?

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dangerman  Jan 31, 2018 • 4:09:28pm

re: #270 scottslemmons

Tell her you have irrefutable proof that the crash was planned by the Rosicrucians, but you can only reveal the evidence to non-Rosicrucians.

second time today this word came up
i’m watching “paint your wagon”

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jan 31, 2018 • 4:10:28pm

re: #292 Backwoods_Sleuth

Pence goes after Manchin

being able to play the victim of partisan dc politics is a big gift for manchin

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EPR-radar  Jan 31, 2018 • 4:12:27pm

re: #296 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

the trumpksyites have endowed “the memo” with sooper majik investigation powers and have sold all their earthly goods on the expectation of being raptured into paradise the day it is finally released

Probably not. I refuse to believe that Republicans believe their own horse shit. They just need to get the mainstream media to go along with the latest bullshit from GOP bullshit mountain.

Since the MSM usually operates in stenographer mode, this is not a challenge.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jan 31, 2018 • 4:12:34pm

re: #295 Decatur Deb

…advise The President to go fuck himself.

i volunteer to supply detailed instruction diagrams

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teleskiguy  Jan 31, 2018 • 4:13:42pm
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Decatur Deb  Jan 31, 2018 • 4:14:04pm

re: #301 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

re: #297 Targetpractice

The RNC really needs to work on its micro-targeting.

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EPR-radar  Jan 31, 2018 • 4:14:36pm

re: #301 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

i volunteer to supply detailed instruction diagrams

I’ll provide the nail bat.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jan 31, 2018 • 4:15:50pm

re: #300 EPR-radar

Probably not. I refuse to believe that Republicans believe their own horse shit. They just need to get the mainstream media to go along with the latest bullshit from GOP bullshit mountain.

Since the MSM usually operates in stenographer mode, this is not a challenge.

i’m reacting to the protracted state of desperate anticipation on the part of comment section denizens

if “the memo” doesn’t cause mueller to instantly self combust, there will be a lot of broken hearts who will need the next Great Trump Hope theory to latch on to

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garzooma  Jan 31, 2018 • 4:17:33pm

re: #278 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Another reason for destroying Federal law enforcement: It is the only entity that reasonably presents a threat to the system of Russian subversion and influence in this country. I believe that this extends far beyond the Trump campaign. It is well documented that this influence campaign predates Trump’s declaration of his candidacy by years. There is good evidence that it extends to the state and local level politically, and into the most minor media.

This is an important point. People focus on House Republicans protecting Trump. But they’re also protecting Russians. Taking the side of a foreign dictatorship against American LEA should not be a winning strategy.

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BeachDem  Jan 31, 2018 • 4:18:54pm

re: #277 I Would Prefer Not To

Because no lizard will miss him…

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All I know is that if Jay Mohr doesn’t get to play him in the movie, there is no justice.

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garzooma  Jan 31, 2018 • 4:23:04pm

re: #290 Stanley Sea

Gotta laugh.

Sorry Beach

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Not to worry, Beach —

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darthstar  Jan 31, 2018 • 4:24:03pm
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majii  Jan 31, 2018 • 4:24:48pm

re: #297 Targetpractice

“Only $45? Do they take credit cards?”

I would not give them my credit card number. There might be something on the site in very small print that states it’s a recurring donation for Trump’s 2020 reelection campaign.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 31, 2018 • 4:24:56pm

re: #73 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I have not seen Cool Hand Luke. I’ll remedy that personal failure tonight. I’m off tomorrow, so I’ll be up late watching movies and hanging out here.

Hard boil some eggs, you’ll need them.

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lawhawk  Jan 31, 2018 • 4:26:22pm

re: #309 darthstar

That’s exactly right. Mueller’s got more questions and Flynn’s got more explaining to do to give Flynn his best chance at getting a favorable plea deal.

How favorable depends on what he tells Mueller and where it leads (further indictments, plea deals with people who turn states’ evidence, etc.)

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lawhawk  Jan 31, 2018 • 4:27:01pm

re: #311 Eventual Carrion

What we’ve got here…. is a failure… to communicate.

That is a great movie.

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darthstar  Jan 31, 2018 • 4:28:08pm

re: #312 lawhawk

That’s exactly right. Mueller’s got more questions and Flynn’s got more explaining to do to give Flynn his best chance at getting a favorable plea deal.

How favorable depends on what he tells Mueller and where it leads (further indictments, plea deals with people who turn states’ evidence, etc.)

I could use another indictment about now…how about Jared for money laundering? Isn’t that doable?

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Targetpractice  Jan 31, 2018 • 4:30:21pm

re: #312 lawhawk

That’s exactly right. Mueller’s got more questions and Flynn’s got more explaining to do to give Flynn his best chance at getting a favorable plea deal.

How favorable depends on what he tells Mueller and where it leads (further indictments, plea deals with people who turn states’ evidence, etc.)

Personally, I suspect he is effectively keeping Flynn on speed-dial, calling him up anytime he has new evidence to sit Flynn down with and get answers. The understanding being that the moment he charges Flynn and accepts the plea deal, the cooperation and stream of testimony will stop. So while they may have agreed to a deal in principle, Flynn is kept advised that the moment he stops being of use to Mueller, the deal dissolves and he gets indicted.

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lawhawk  Jan 31, 2018 • 4:30:38pm

re: #314 darthstar

I could use another indictment about now…how about Jared for money laundering? Isn’t that doable?

Even lower hanging fruit: multiple violations of 18 USC 1001 - lying on his SF-86 security clearance applications. Each time he submitted the form and omitted the fateful Russia meeting from June 2016, he was lying/omitting in violation of federal law.

That’s up to 5 years in Club Fed for each violation.

Then he’d be able to share another experience with his dad - being convicted felons.

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ObserverArt  Jan 31, 2018 • 4:30:58pm

Just turned MSNBC on and Tweety Matthews is playing some of the speech from last night. Glad I did not watch it.

That slow read of the ‘prompter delivery is painful. And when added to his speech and mugging it is way too much to take. No wonder it took an hour-and-a-half.

Thank you Lizards that waded through that slime last night. I hope there is no permanent damage such as PTSD. Yikes.

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EPR-radar  Jan 31, 2018 • 4:31:30pm

re: #313 lawhawk

What we’ve got here…. is a failure… to communicate.

That is a great movie.

“Don’t mess with the man with no eyes.”

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 31, 2018 • 4:34:20pm

re: #180 jaunte

Maybe they’re afraid of heights.

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Ha, that’s what I was thinking. 200 feet down in a mine feels safer than 200 feet up on a wind vane.

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EPR-radar  Jan 31, 2018 • 4:34:44pm

re: #310 majii

I would not give them my credit card number. There might be something on the site in very small print that states it’s a recurring donation for Trump’s 2020 reelection campaign.

I’d expect that level of fuckery from any Republican. To bring it to Trump-level fuckery would need something like a click through contract that includes all 11,000 provisions of the standard Trump Organization NDA + an ongoing financial drain.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 31, 2018 • 4:35:11pm

re: #310 majii

“Only $45? Do they take credit cards?”

I would not give them my credit card number. There might be something on the site in very small print that states it’s a recurring donation for Trump’s 2020 reelection campaign.

There’s a check-block for that. RNC is always thinking of you.

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Targetpractice  Jan 31, 2018 • 4:35:16pm

re: #317 ObserverArt

Just turned MSNBC on and Tweety Matthews is playing some of the speech from last night. Glad I did not watch it.

That slow read of the ‘prompter delivery is painful. And when added to his speech and mugging it is way too much to take. No wonder it took an hour-and-a-half.

Thank you Lizards that waded through that slime last night. I hope there is no permanent damage such as PTSD. Yikes.

I numbed the pain by watching old episodes of the Nostalgia Critic. Poking fun at old, cheesy movies helped me deal.

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ObserverArt  Jan 31, 2018 • 4:44:23pm

re: #313 lawhawk

What we’ve got here…. is a failure… to communicate.

That is a great movie.

Paul Newman - Cool Hand Luke - Plastic Jesus

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 31, 2018 • 4:44:40pm

re: #192 MsJ

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And how did tRump’s inlaws get into this country?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 31, 2018 • 4:45:46pm

re: #313 lawhawk

What we’ve got here…. is a failure… to communicate.

That is a great movie.

I wish you wouldn’t be so nice to me, Boss.

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Targetpractice  Jan 31, 2018 • 4:45:48pm

Good: Turn to channel where Demolition Man is playing

Bad: It’s not a movie network, which means they butcher all the “naughty words” out

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 31, 2018 • 4:47:58pm

re: #307 BeachDem

I’m thinking more….

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Decatur Deb  Jan 31, 2018 • 4:48:37pm

re: #325 Blind Frog Belly White

I wish you wouldn’t be so nice to me, Boss.

“Sometimes nuthin’ is a pretty cool hand.”
George Kennedy Chuck Schumer

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 31, 2018 • 4:49:04pm

re: #324 Eventual Carrion

And how did tRump’s inlaws get into this country?

Well, they’re white, so……

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teleskiguy  Jan 31, 2018 • 4:49:27pm

re: #326 Targetpractice

Good: Turn to channel where Demolition Man is playing

Bad: It’s not a movie network, which means they butcher all the “naughty words” out

Demolition Man - All the Swearing and Getting Fined Parts (Newer Version Available,7/29/12)

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lawhawk  Jan 31, 2018 • 4:50:02pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 31, 2018 • 4:50:57pm

re: #178 HappyWarrior

Yep but don’t tell them that. They don’t want to hear that because alternative energy jobs is just hippie shit to them.

They’d have to move someplace else for work. You know, like everyone in my whole goddam family did?

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Targetpractice  Jan 31, 2018 • 4:51:18pm

re: #331 lawhawk

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Think for Frank, it was more the “All Dreamers are murderous criminals” part that got him hot under the collar.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 31, 2018 • 4:51:34pm

re: #312 lawhawk

That’s exactly right. Mueller’s got more questions and Flynn’s got more explaining to do to give Flynn his best chance at getting a favorable plea deal.

How favorable depends on what he tells Mueller and where it leads (further indictments, plea deals with people who turn states’ evidence, etc.)

Question Hawk -

When does Mueller stop? What if they see a crime a day?

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plansbandc  Jan 31, 2018 • 4:51:41pm

re: #326 Targetpractice

The best (worst) example of this is translating ” Get out. Get out of my motherfucking house” to “Get out. Get out of my freshly vacuumed house”.

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Targetpractice  Jan 31, 2018 • 4:52:59pm

re: #332 Blind Frog Belly White

They’d have to move someplace else for work. You know, like everyone in my whole goddam family did?

‘09-‘16: “MOVE TO WHERE THE JOBS ARE!!!”

‘17-‘18: “We need to bring back the jobs to these small towns by reopening coal mines and factories!!!”

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lawhawk  Jan 31, 2018 • 4:54:11pm

re: #334 Stanley Sea

Mueller’s mission ends when he’s satisfied that the investigation has wrapped up all the loose ends.

I’d suspect that he’d produce a report much like what Starr did - putting together all the pieces and creating a narrative of what was done, investigated, and findings.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 31, 2018 • 4:56:52pm

re: #336 Targetpractice

‘09-‘16: “MOVE TO WHERE THE JOBS ARE!!!”

‘17-‘18: “We need to bring back the jobs to these small towns by reopening coal minds and factories!!!”

America was built by people who moved where the jobs were. Now the people who think life owes them a high-paying job where they now live are trying to stop the entry of people who will move where the jobs are.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 31, 2018 • 4:57:47pm

Luntz is that guy who thinks he sees the train leaving the station and runs to jump on if he can. Frank, this is a train to career perdition. And you deserve no less.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 31, 2018 • 4:57:54pm

re: #331 lawhawk

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Politifact’s website crashed because of server overload.

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weave  Jan 31, 2018 • 4:58:20pm

re: #276 ObserverArt

Wrong liberal! Terrorists loyal to their cause blow themselves up all time. Demorats are terrorists and are out to take out congress. Open your eyes…watch Fox, they’ll tell you.

Her reply wasn’t far off, after I mentioned the person driving died and no one is going to die to provide a distraction.

I disagree. Look at the mental state of thousands of ISIS who willingly strap on bombs including women and children to self destruct in order to take down one soldier. Then there were the Kamikaze pilots who thought it an honor to commit suicide in a plane for their emperor. I’m just saying, don’t think it’s so far fetched that a Zealot wouldn’t be willing to risk life for their cause.

The sad part is, apparently it was just some guys working a trash truck — in rural Virginia. Most likely they were Trump supporters.

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scottslemmons  Jan 31, 2018 • 5:00:11pm

re: #298 dangerman

second time today this word came up
i’m watching “paint your wagon”

I love that movie almost entirely unironically.

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ObserverArt  Jan 31, 2018 • 5:03:52pm

re: #341 weave

Her reply wasn’t far off, after I mentioned the person driving died and no one is going to die to provide a distraction.

The sad part is, apparently it was just some guys working a trash truck — in rural Virginia. Most likely they were Trump supporters.

Not hard to figure them out these days.

So predictable. So easy to get them all to follow.

She might just find she is called on to strap on a bomb someday herself. And she just might go along.

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BeachDem  Jan 31, 2018 • 5:04:48pm

re: #331 lawhawk

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Trump regurgitated a speech from a teleprompter and it was full of empty platitudes and enough lies to keep fact checkers busy for weeks.

And a lot of clapping for himself. That gif of him clapping and waving people to stand up is the only part of the nauseating display I can stand to watch.

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garzooma  Jan 31, 2018 • 5:07:23pm

re: #337 lawhawk

Mueller’s mission ends when he’s satisfied that the investigation has wrapped up all the loose ends.

One major loose end is what happened in that meeting in Trump tower. Mueller is probably hoping to crack Manafort, so this could take a while.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 31, 2018 • 5:07:56pm

My even is busted.

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A Mom Anon  Jan 31, 2018 • 5:10:10pm

re: #346 The Vicious Babushka
They got nothin’. Pathetic.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 31, 2018 • 5:10:54pm

I took a li’l peek at that Fox article, they’re going back to counting all the times Obama said “I” during a speech. No context, just an “I” count. As we all remember.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 31, 2018 • 5:10:57pm

re: #345 garzooma

One major loose end is what happened in that meeting in Trump tower. Mueller is probably hoping to crack Manafort, so this could take a while.

While Don Jr. is sunny side up.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 31, 2018 • 5:11:59pm
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Ace Rothstein  Jan 31, 2018 • 5:12:09pm

re: #348 The Vicious Babushka

“If Congress puts the bill on my desk, I will sign it.”

What a narcissist.

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EPR-radar  Jan 31, 2018 • 5:13:44pm

re: #350 goddamnedfrank

Steve Jobs had an especially grim form of cancer, and the fact that he spent months trying diet cures etc. surely didn’t help.

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Scottish Dragon  Jan 31, 2018 • 5:14:33pm

re: #249 Kragar

This alternate universe we live in is getting freakier every fucking day

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Walsh is a titanic asshole. He also speaks the truth at least as he sees it, so I will give him that.

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JordanRules  Jan 31, 2018 • 5:15:18pm

re: #345 garzooma

I suspect the investigation will be long and part of me hopes that’s the case so we can start to dig out as much of the rot as possible.
Ideally we’ll have lots of indictments, jurisdiction-hopping revelations and good deals along the way.

Other parts of me, of course, want this wrapped up yesterday.

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Scottish Dragon  Jan 31, 2018 • 5:17:53pm

re: #342 scottslemmons

I love that movie almost entirely unironically.

OMG that movie is a trip. The bit where Horton Fenty gets taken to the whorehouse is nuts….

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teleskiguy  Jan 31, 2018 • 5:21:07pm
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EPR-radar  Jan 31, 2018 • 5:21:51pm

re: #354 JordanRules

I suspect the investigation will be long and part of me hopes that’s the case so we can start to dig out as much of the rot as possible.
Ideally we’ll have lots of indictments, jurisdiction-hopping revelations and good deals along the way.

Other parts of me, of course, want this wrapped up yesterday.

This rot in the GOP is much more than Trump.

It turns out that a party completely divorced from idea of the public good because of its long-standing servitude to plutocratic US interests can accommodate servitude to plutocratic foreign interests without missing a beat.

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teleskiguy  Jan 31, 2018 • 5:22:30pm
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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jan 31, 2018 • 5:23:01pm

re: #352 EPR-radar

Steve Jobs had an especially grim form of cancer, and the fact that he spent months trying diet cures etc. surely didn’t help.

1) I agree.

2) His form of cancer was SO grim that grasping at straws made about as much sense as medically approved treatments.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 31, 2018 • 5:24:50pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jan 31, 2018 • 5:25:11pm

re: #346 The Vicious Babushka

My even is busted.

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I responded to a bunch of idiots in that thread. I’ll probably get a time-out for telling them the truth.

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majii  Jan 31, 2018 • 5:25:14pm

re: #347 A Mom Anon

“re: #346 The Vicious Babushka”
“They got nothin’. Pathetic.”

Fox News has to do the analysis of the number of times PBO used the “I” word vs. Trump, first, because as you note, ‘they got nothing,” and because the numbers are in: fewer Americans watched the Yam’s first SOTU speech than did PBO’s. Also, the fact that the Yam left a bunch of topics out of his SOTU speech that presidents on both sides of the aisle usually include is being publicly noted. Plus, the racism and bigotry in the Yam’s speech [Thanks, Stephen Miller] is being mentioned and called out by heavy-hitters like Paul Krugman.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 31, 2018 • 5:25:18pm

re: #358 teleskiguy

Marijuana sales would go through the roof.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 31, 2018 • 5:26:32pm

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JordanRules  Jan 31, 2018 • 5:27:29pm

re: #357 EPR-radar

Oh yes!
Tis partly why I think the investigation could go very long. Or barely touch the service.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 31, 2018 • 5:27:35pm

re: #346 The Vicious Babushka

My even is busted.

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Yawn.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 31, 2018 • 5:27:50pm

re: #358 teleskiguy

It would give a whole new meaning to “Rocky Mountain High.”

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 31, 2018 • 5:29:11pm

re: #349 Stanley Sea

While Don Jr. is sunny side up.

Hard boiled, with green yolk.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 31, 2018 • 5:29:42pm

re: #364 The Vicious Babushka

Thanks, a bad copy/paste.

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 31, 2018 • 5:30:55pm
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majii  Jan 31, 2018 • 5:32:31pm

re: #352 EPR-radar

“Steve Jobs had an especially grim form of cancer, and the fact that he spent months trying diet cures etc. surely didn’t help.”

Changing his diet didn’t help my oldest brother, either. He died from stomach cancer in 2015. He had been complaining of stomach pains for more than a year, but his concerns were dismissed by numerous doctors, some of whom ordered the wrong kind of tests. He found out he had Stage 4 cancer of the stomach less than a year before he died. I’m still grieving over his loss, and the loss of a brother in 2011, and another brother in 2014. Life is precious and loved ones should be cherished.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 31, 2018 • 5:34:13pm

Just what I need, a concrete blizzard.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 31, 2018 • 5:34:41pm

I’m on the Andrew Johnson administration in Ron Chernow’s Grant biography and I have to say there are a number of similarities between Johnson and Trump. Johnson got on the Lincoln ticket because he seemed like an anti-plantation Democrat. Once the war was over he wanted nothing more than to snuggle up to the planter class just as Trump seeks acceptance by NYC and Wall St.’s top echelon (though formerly denouncing them). And when southern whites massacred blacks Johnson blamed the freedmen, the victims. Johnson went on a self-aggrandizing tour supposedly to take part in honoring Stephen Douglas in Chicago but instead used it to campaign. And when people booed him saying he lacked dignity he threw it right back: “I have no truck with dignity!” (probably drunk, too). But there were dynamics at play to impeach Johnson. Trump—well, we know that’s not likely.

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EPR-radar  Jan 31, 2018 • 5:39:15pm

re: #373 Barefoot Grin

I’m on the Andrew Johnson administration in Ron Chernow’s Grant biography and I have to say there are a number of similarities between Johnson and Trump. Johnson got on the Lincoln ticket because he seemed like an anti-plantation Democrat. Once the war was over he wanted nothing more than to snuggle up to the planter class just as Trump seeks acceptance by NYC and Wall St.’s top echelon (though formerly denouncing them). And when southern whites massacred blacks Johnson blamed the freedmen, the victims. Johnson went on a self-aggrandizing tour supposedly to take part in honoring Stephen Douglas in Chicago but instead used it to campaign. And when people booed him saying he lacked dignity he threw it right back: “I have no truck with dignity!” (probably drunk, too). But there were dynamics at play to impeach Johnson. Trump—well, we know that’s not likely.

I need to take a second look at US history in the post civil-war era, since I’ve realized that my high school US history for that era was heavily slanted with lost cause propaganda (in NJ(!)).

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lawhawk  Jan 31, 2018 • 5:41:42pm

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ObserverArt  Jan 31, 2018 • 5:41:46pm

Just heard Chris Hayes say the memo will be released tomorrow. I just caught it, I think he said Reuters is reporting it.

Oh, it’s up in the chyron now. Reuters for sure.

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scottslemmons  Jan 31, 2018 • 5:44:15pm

The way things are going, I’m gonna have to go dig my old Illuminati cards out of storage to keep up with the conspiracy theories.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 31, 2018 • 5:45:13pm
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Cheechako  Jan 31, 2018 • 5:45:13pm
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PhillyPretzel  Jan 31, 2018 • 5:47:12pm

re: #379 Cheechako

Thanks. That was funny.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 31, 2018 • 5:48:09pm

Wow. Paul Nehlen is now sticking up for… David Duke.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 31, 2018 • 5:50:43pm
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jan 31, 2018 • 5:54:49pm

re: #342 scottslemmons

I love that movie almost entirely unironically.

i remember the silver ad posters they had for it in the nyc subways when it came out but if i remember correctly it was a gigantic flop that just about killed the old fashioned pre rock musical

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Targetpractice  Jan 31, 2018 • 5:57:22pm

re: #378 Charles Johnson

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So it’s the GOP & WH versus Dems & FBI.

I cannot possibly see this blowing up in their faces.////////

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 31, 2018 • 5:58:40pm

re: #381 Charles Johnson

Wow. Paul Nehlen is now sticking up for… David Duke.

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I agree we should refer to David Duke by his proper title.

Convicted Felon. (mail fraud and tax evasion)

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jan 31, 2018 • 5:59:07pm

re: #376 ObserverArt

Just heard Chris Hayes say the memo will be released tomorrow. I just caught it, I think he said Reuters is reporting it.

Oh, it’s up in the chyron now. Reuters for sure.

it’s basically pre discredited

this is a case where the powder got wet before the fuse was lit

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ObserverArt  Jan 31, 2018 • 6:00:52pm

re: #386 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

it’s basically pre discredited

this is a case where the powder got wet before the fuse was lit

It’ll still cause a bang with the wingnuts and Trump will dance in the smoke.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 31, 2018 • 6:01:26pm

I just emailed my note to Mitch McConnell, accusing him of treason. Is there a single Republican in Congress or the Senate who has shown any loyalty to this country since the advent of Trump?

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Skip Intro  Jan 31, 2018 • 6:02:35pm

re: #384 Targetpractice
Oh yeah, and the Russians.

So it’s the GOP & WH versus Dems & FBI.

I cannot possibly see this blowing up in their faces.////////

It’s the Supreme Court, CIA, GOP, and WH against the FBI and Dems.

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makeitstop  Jan 31, 2018 • 6:03:43pm

Trump’s got a new problem, and it’s called Marc Corallo.

And Hopey better keep her head down.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 31, 2018 • 6:04:31pm

re: #388 Hecuba’s daughter

I just emailed my note to Mitch McConnell, accusing him of treason. Is there a single Republican in Congress or the Senate who has shown any loyalty to this country since the advent of Trump Nixon?

Fixed.

Republicans with Nixon got “right with the Lord” right about the time they saw a bloodbath in the midterms coming.

Before that, they were caterwauling the same things: The liberal media is doing a hatchet job, he’s not guilty anyway, it’s not a crime if the President does it …

Second verse, same as the first. This ain’t the first time I’ve seen this.

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Targetpractice  Jan 31, 2018 • 6:07:06pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 31, 2018 • 6:08:59pm
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Citizen K  Jan 31, 2018 • 6:11:25pm

re: #393 Anymouse 🌹

Don’t forget the superfluous smoke stacks for “rolling coal”.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 31, 2018 • 6:11:51pm

Evening Lizardim.

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scottslemmons  Jan 31, 2018 • 6:13:14pm

re: #383 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

i remember the silver ad posters they had for it in the nyc subways when it came out but if i remember correctly it was a gigantic flop that just about killed the old fashioned pre rock musical

ENOUGH, I WILL HEAR NO CRITICISM OF “PAINT YOUR WAGON” OR OF “CAT BALLOU,” YOU ARE ALL ON NOTICE. (points threateningly at everyone, trips over log, silver nose falls off)

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 31, 2018 • 6:14:36pm

re: #378 Charles Johnson

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I said this already… you’d be right, except for the Republicans in charge who don’t care about the Constitution.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 31, 2018 • 6:15:34pm

re: #394 Citizen K

Don’t forget the superfluous smoke stacks for “rolling coal”.

Yeah, I had a jerk in Cheyenne “roll coal” all over my wife and me, apparently because he felt threatened by a disabled vet and his wife in a Smart car with Gold Star Family plates.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 31, 2018 • 6:15:56pm

re: #395 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Evening Lizardim.

And a fine one to you.

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majii  Jan 31, 2018 • 6:16:20pm

I’m watching Terminator Genisys, and I have one question: What in the hell has happened to Arnold Schwarzenegger? He’s looking rough in the movie, really rough, nothing like the way he used to look. Don’t tell me it’s because he’s getting older. Not everyone who gets older looks like 1,000 miles of bad, gravelly road ran over him/her.

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Targetpractice  Jan 31, 2018 • 6:16:31pm

Tomorrow is gonna be an absolute shit show.

402
Anymouse 🌹  Jan 31, 2018 • 6:17:09pm

re: #395 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Evening Lizardim.

Hi, Ms. Covfefe. How are you tonight?

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 31, 2018 • 6:17:22pm

re: #391 Anymouse 🌹

Fixed.

Republicans with Nixon got “right with the Lord” right about the time they saw a bloodbath in the midterms coming.

Before that, they were caterwauling the same things: The liberal media is doing a hatchet job, he’s not guilty anyway, it’s not a crime if the President does it …

Second verse, same as the first. This ain’t the first time I’ve seen this.

Except they never previously swore allegiance to a foreign power. Nixon committed many sins but no one ever accused him of being loyal to another nation, especially one that is an enemy of ours.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 31, 2018 • 6:19:08pm

Thread….. Toni got herself all tied up

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scottslemmons  Jan 31, 2018 • 6:20:58pm

re: #401 Targetpractice

Tomorrow is gonna be an absolute shit show.

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I guess the goal is to muddy the waters enough so maybe no one will every be able to get a conviction on Nunes.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 31, 2018 • 6:21:03pm

re: #402 Anymouse 🌹

Hi, Ms. Covfefe. How are you tonight?

Not dead, which was seriously in doubt when I dragged myself off to bed last night.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 31, 2018 • 6:21:06pm

re: #403 Hecuba’s daughter

Except they never previously swore allegiance to a foreign power. Nixon committed many sins but no one ever accused him of being loyal to another nation, especially one that is an enemy of ours.

They did accuse him of rodent copulating the Vietnam Peace Talks in violation of the Logan Act to ensure an electoral victory over Humphrey.

The Lyndon Johnson Tapes: Richard Nixon’s Treason (goes to the BBC)

Then there was Ronald Reagan, who pretty much did the same thing to President Jimmy Carter over the Iran Hostage crisis, then sold weapons to a sanctioned regime to fund a sanctioned group of death squads in Nicaragua, Guatemala, and El Salvador.

Actually, they have been up to treasonous activity all my life.

409
makeitstop  Jan 31, 2018 • 6:25:18pm

I was thinking about that Coralllo - Hope Hicks thing, and I remembered this bit from a story about how Ivanka and Junior narrowly avoided being indicted for fraud.

In one e-mail, according to four people who have seen it, the Trumps discussed how to coördinate false information they had given to prospective buyers. In another, according to a person who read the e-mails, they worried that a reporter might be on to them. In yet another, Donald, Jr., spoke reassuringly to a broker who was concerned about the false statements, saying that nobody would ever find out, because only people on the e-mail chain or in the Trump Organization knew about the deception, according to a person who saw the e-mail.

They’re making the same mistake all over again. Dopes.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 31, 2018 • 6:26:34pm

re: #407 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Not dead, which was seriously in doubt when I dragged myself off to bed last night.

I hear you there. I went through a two-day migraine headache. Since the VA is restricting me to nine tablets at a time for my prescriptions and I was down to only one, I was holding out with aspirin (didn’t work) until the VA filled my prescription (as of yesterday they still haven’t). I finally gave in and took the last one.

Had I played the Nebraska Democratic Party drinking bingo game they promoted over the State of the Union, I wouldn’t have had a headache anymore because my liver would have decamped to Poland.

411
Cheechako  Jan 31, 2018 • 6:27:05pm

If Nunes releases releases his “Investigation Memo”, I think it would be OK for Pelosi to release the Dem response. National security is out the window once the Nunes memo hits the street.

412
scottslemmons  Jan 31, 2018 • 6:27:53pm

re: #409 makeitstop

I was thinking about that Coralllo - Hope Hicks thing, and I remembered this bit from a story about how Ivanka and Junior narrowly avoided being indicted for fraud.

They’re making the same mistake all over again. Dopes.

Trump & Co. are so dumb, the Coen Brothers are going to be the only choices when it comes to making the movie about it all…

413
Dave In Austin  Jan 31, 2018 • 6:27:56pm
414
ObserverArt  Jan 31, 2018 • 6:29:53pm

re: #400 majii

I’m watching Terminator Genisys, and I have one question: What in the hell has happened to Arnold Schwarzenegger? He’s looking rough in the movie, really rough, nothing like the way he used to look. Don’t tell me it’s because he’s getting older. Not everyone who gets older looks like 1,000 miles of bad, gravelly road ran over him/her.

I think he is a victim of trying to stay young and having cosmetic voodoo done to achieve it.

415
Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 31, 2018 • 6:30:02pm

re: #410 Anymouse 🌹

I hear you there. I went through a two-day migraine headache. Since the VA is restricting me to nine tablets at a time for my prescriptions and I was down to only one, I was holding out with aspirin (didn’t work) until the VA filled my prescription (as of yesterday they still haven’t). I finally gave in and took the last one.

Had I played the Nebraska Democratic Party drinking bingo game they promoted over the State of the Union, I wouldn’t have had a headache anymore because my liver would have decamped to Poland.

I’ve been suffering from some variant of Unspecified Plague #603 - sinus infection and drainage, sinus headaches, all that head-cold stuff. I keep dragging myself into work, then wondering exactly why I’m so fucking stupid.

416
teleskiguy  Jan 31, 2018 • 6:31:31pm

How fast do you think this Buick is going?

417
Citizen K  Jan 31, 2018 • 6:31:33pm

re: #413 Dave In Austin

But hey, that’s what charter schools will be for, right? And at least you know in charter schools you’re less likely to get one of those scary foreign folk as your teacher!

418
Anymouse 🌹  Jan 31, 2018 • 6:35:47pm
419
ObserverArt  Jan 31, 2018 • 6:36:25pm

re: #416 teleskiguy

How fast do you think this Buick is going?

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85+

420
Stanley Sea  Jan 31, 2018 • 6:36:48pm

re: #414 ObserverArt

I think he is a victim of trying to stay young and having cosmetic voodoo done to achieve it.

The Steve Wynn Cadaver special.

Vanity, a deadly sin.

See yam hair.

421
dangerman  Jan 31, 2018 • 6:36:50pm

re: #413 Dave In Austin

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At merely 25 kids per teacher that would affect 225,000 students

9000 replacement teachers ready to go? And you know what they’re paid….

This is insanity

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Anymouse 🌹  Jan 31, 2018 • 6:36:58pm

re: #416 teleskiguy

How fast do you think this Buick is going?

[Embedded content]

About eighty?

423
Charles Johnson  Jan 31, 2018 • 6:38:22pm
424
teleskiguy  Jan 31, 2018 • 6:40:37pm

re: #423 Charles Johnson

425
Charles Johnson  Jan 31, 2018 • 6:41:43pm
426
makeitstop  Jan 31, 2018 • 6:42:24pm

Tammy got yelled at…

427
Anymouse 🌹  Jan 31, 2018 • 6:44:30pm

The brand-new Twitter accounts are piling on to Sen. Wyden’s Twitter feed… .

428
makeitstop  Jan 31, 2018 • 6:45:04pm

Where’s Happy at?

My wife just sent me a link - new Frank Turner album in the Spring, tour in Summer. He’s in NYC June 6. We’re going. :)

429
Charles Johnson  Jan 31, 2018 • 6:46:12pm
430
Kragar  Jan 31, 2018 • 6:47:45pm
431
teleskiguy  Jan 31, 2018 • 6:50:30pm

Yeah, this shitheel is blocked.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 31, 2018 • 6:52:16pm
433
Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 31, 2018 • 6:57:10pm

re: #388 Hecuba’s daughter

I just emailed my note to Mitch McConnell, accusing him of treason. Is there a single Republican in Congress or the Senate who has shown any loyalty to this country since the advent of Trump?

Nope. ALL of them are implicit in surrendering this country to Putin.

434
A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jan 31, 2018 • 6:59:44pm

re: #433 Joe Bacon 🌹

Nope. ALL of them are implicit in surrendering this country to Putin.

Or complicit?

(I’ll show myself out.)

435
makeitstop  Jan 31, 2018 • 6:59:50pm

Nunes is such a prick, he may be throwing his own staff under the bus to protect Trump.

436
Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 31, 2018 • 7:00:07pm

re: #400 majii

I’m watching Terminator Genisys, and I have one question: What in the hell has happened to Arnold Schwarzenegger? He’s looking rough in the movie, really rough, nothing like the way he used to look. Don’t tell me it’s because he’s getting older. Not everyone who gets older looks like 1,000 miles of bad, gravelly road ran over him/her.

Steroids.

437
Kragar  Jan 31, 2018 • 7:01:56pm

Pretty sure the guy at the gas station is going to be getting fired.

Pulled in and the sign out front said $3.15 a gallon.

Started pumping, and the machine was only charging $2.15 a gallon.

Looked around and all 8 pumps were set the same.

Somebody fucked up.

438
Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jan 31, 2018 • 7:06:46pm

jesus sounds like Hope Hicks is gonna be perp walked as well.

439
BeachDem  Jan 31, 2018 • 7:08:00pm

re: #435 makeitstop

Nunes is such a prick, he may be throwing his own staff under the bus to protect Trump.

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Well, that one staffer who supposedly wrote part of the MEMO has already been called out by a Texas judge with an “order of ineptitude” so he’s probably used to the feel of tires rolling over him.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jan 31, 2018 • 7:08:05pm

re: #416 teleskiguy

How fast do you think this Buick is going?

[Embedded content]

About 105.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 31, 2018 • 7:08:26pm
442
Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 31, 2018 • 7:08:43pm

Oh, something tells me Ms. Rachel is accurate about this!

443
Stanley Sea  Jan 31, 2018 • 7:08:54pm
444
makeitstop  Jan 31, 2018 • 7:10:29pm

re: #438 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

jesus sounds like Hope Hicks is gonna be perp walked as well.

What do you think the chances are that she lied her ass off in her interview with Mueller?

I’d say chances are pretty excellent.

445
Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 31, 2018 • 7:10:57pm

Oh my, such a naughty little girl!

446
BeachDem  Jan 31, 2018 • 7:11:26pm

re: #438 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

jesus sounds like Hope Hicks is gonna be perp walked as well.

Spokesmodel Hope was also the chief stenographer on AF1 when they lied about the emails just before Junior released them, right?

447
Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 31, 2018 • 7:12:47pm

re: #446 BeachDem

Spokesmodelmistress Hope was also the chief stenographer on AF1 when they lied about the emails just before Junior released them, right?

Making it more accurate…

448
TedStriker  Jan 31, 2018 • 7:12:55pm

re: #443 Stanley Sea

Heartless, cruel, and downright evil.

449
GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 31, 2018 • 7:13:21pm

re: #445 Joe Bacon 🌹

Oh my, such a naughty little girl!

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I swear. I have this feeling she’s been fooling around with Trump too.

450
BeachDem  Jan 31, 2018 • 7:13:32pm

re: #443 Stanley Sea

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Somebody today (can’t remember who) suggested that Tom Steyer ought to save that paper instead of throwing his money away on his impeachment ads.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 31, 2018 • 7:14:24pm

re: #446 BeachDem

Spokesmodel Hope was also the chief stenographer on AF1 when they lied about the emails just before Junior released them, right?

This story lays out the AF1 obstruction

Sorry, tis Maggie!

452
BeachDem  Jan 31, 2018 • 7:16:49pm

re: #447 Joe Bacon 🌹

Making it more accurate…

Well, THAT’S just a rumor—she really was basically an Ivanka spokesmodel before she became a major politico.

453
Stanley Sea  Jan 31, 2018 • 7:18:03pm

re: #452 BeachDem

Well, THAT’S just a rumor—she really was basically an Ivanka spokesmodel before she became a major politico.

She’s organized & pliable.

Sucks for her.

I will dance a jig.

454
BeachDem  Jan 31, 2018 • 7:18:11pm

re: #451 Stanley Sea

This story lays out the AF1 obstruction

[Embedded content]

Sorry Maggie!

If I remember correctly, it’s pretty well described in “the book” as well.

455
ObserverArt  Jan 31, 2018 • 7:18:43pm

re: #440 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

About 105.

I don’t think that P.O.S. could get to 100. And the landing would have had more bounce…like off the road to the right and in the trees. Idiot is lucky that didn’t happen to him anyway.

456
Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 31, 2018 • 7:22:18pm

So, Mitch…how much Russian money has gone into your pocket?

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Jan 31, 2018 • 9:56:56pm

re: #385 Anymouse 🌹

I agree we should refer to David Duke by his proper title.

Convicted Felon. (mail fraud and tax evasion)

Wouldn’t that be KKKonvicted Felon?


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