GOP Rep. Matt Gaetz Defends Holocaust Denier Chuck C. Johnson, Denies He’s a Holocaust Denier

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As we reported yesterday, Florida Republican congressman Matt Gaetz invited notorious white supremacist Holocaust denier (and infamous Rage Furby) Chuck C. Johnson (who is NOT ME) to Donald Trump’s State of the Union address, and he’s been facing quite a bit of criticism for it.

But amazingly (or maybe not so amazingly, given the current state of the GOP), Gaetz actually went on Neil Cavuto’s Fox Business show today and defended Johnson, saying, “He’s not a Holocaust denier, not a white supremacist.” You can see him make this utterly dishonest claim in the video above.

In reality, Chuck C. Johnson is undeniably guilty of both white supremacism and Holocaust denial, and the proof is all over the Internet. He may deny when he’s called out, but the fact is that he hasn’t even tried to hide it, for years.

For one example of many, here’s a photo of Johnson posing with infamous neo-Nazi Richard Spencer at the GOP convention.

Then there was the time he went on a prolonged racist tirade on Twitter, shortly before he was permanently banned from the social network. We saved screenshots of this now-deleted ugly rant:

And as we first documented here at LGF last year, Johnson did an “Ask Me Anything” session in Reddit’s “altright” group (which is now banned for hate speech and extremism) and made his Holocaust denial crystal clear. Here’s the exchange, copied verbatim from Reddit:

justacolyte:
what are your thoughts on the Holocaust, WW2, and the JQ in general? [“JQ” is a white supremacists’ abbreviation for “Jewish Question.” – ed.]

ChuckCJohnson:
I do not and never have believed the six million figure. I think the Red Cross numbers of 250,000 dead in the camps from typhus are more realistic. I think the Allied bombing of Germany was a ware crime. I agree with David Cole about Auschwitz and the gas chambers not being real. I read the German War (highly recommend), Bloodlands, Mein Kampf, and all of David Irving. I’m more or less of the view that the war was an outgrowth of the efforts of communism to spread itself throughout the world. I also believe that the fears of German extermination were not misplaced, especially in light of the Ukrainian famine. But I support Israel as a Jewish state and Zionism as a concept. I’m pro-ethno state, generally. I understand why and how Hitler rose to power but think too much of our focus on World War II is spent trying to understand Hitler and not enough is spent trying to understand Weimar. Mecius Moldbug, aka Curtis Yarvin, is right. America is a communist country.

This Reddit page was saved at archive​.is by someone (not me) shortly after it appeared; here’s the archived copy.

The only question that remains is: why would Rep. Gaetz go to bat for such a vile individual? It’s not difficult to find the truth about Chuck C. Johnson, so why lie?

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339 comments

1
Ace-o-aces  Feb 1, 2018 • 4:22:13pm

That’s right, WWII came about because Hitler was trying to stop communism. That totally explains why he made an alliance with Stalin and attacked France!

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 1, 2018 • 4:22:55pm

It really has been one of those weeks

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Ace-o-aces  Feb 1, 2018 • 4:26:08pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 1, 2018 • 4:26:21pm

re: #2 FormerDirtDart

It really has been one of those weeks

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A platypus … truther. What the actual bejesusing fuck.

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KGxvi  Feb 1, 2018 • 4:27:55pm

re: #2 FormerDirtDart

Nope
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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 1, 2018 • 4:29:56pm

re: #4 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

A platypus … truther. What the actual bejesusing fuck.

Sewn onto what, exactly? That’s what I’d like to know.

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EPR-radar  Feb 1, 2018 • 4:30:30pm

re: #6 Blind Frog Belly White

Sewn onto what, exactly? That’s what I’d like to know.

A tribble.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Feb 1, 2018 • 4:31:35pm

How Dare You Question Teh Chuckie!!

Rage Furby Rulez!!

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EPR-radar  Feb 1, 2018 • 4:34:28pm

Platypus truthers are ridiculous, of course, but this is completely to be expected when nearly half the electorate is violently opposed to reality, truth, logic and facts.

Every wingnut is their own god, omniscient and infallible. They view their ignorance as being better than any expert’s knowledge, which is a strain of stupid anti-intellectualism that has deep roots in US history. They are just dialing that nonsense up to 12 in the Trump era.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Feb 1, 2018 • 4:37:04pm

re: #2 FormerDirtDart

It really has been one of those weeks

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I’m calling bullshit….because I just freaking have to.

But if we can pre-wire the WTC7 then why couldn’t we sew on platypus’ beaks?!?!

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* Fake teh Platypus
* Something, something, something
* Profit and/or world domination through the new world order

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bill d. (b.d.)  Feb 1, 2018 • 4:38:11pm

re: #9 EPR-radar

Platypus truthers are ridiculous, of course, but this is completely to be expected when nearly half the electorate is violently opposed to reality, truth, logic and facts.

Every wingnut is their own god, omniscient and infallible. They view their ignorance as being better than any expert’s knowledge, which is a strain of stupid anti-intellectualism that has deep roots in US history. They are just dialing that nonsense up to 12 in the Trump era.

I’ll one up them, there ain’t no place as Australia.

Fake Continent.

So there.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 1, 2018 • 4:38:16pm

Ya gotta admit, a platypus is a freakn’ ridiculous kludge. Like putting an Edsel grille on an E-Jag.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 1, 2018 • 4:38:29pm

re: #6 Blind Frog Belly White

Sewn onto what, exactly? That’s what I’d like to know.

There is a tiny kernel of truth to this (not that platypi are fake).

Back when English explorers first went to Australia, they encountered the platypus. Reporting back to the Royal Society, that organisation thought the animal was a fake.

When the platypus was first encountered by Europeans in 1798, a pelt and sketch were sent back to Great Britain by Captain John Hunter, the second Governor of New South Wales. British scientists’ initial hunch was that the attributes were a hoax. George Shaw, who produced the first description of the animal in the Naturalist’s Miscellany in 1799, stated it was impossible not to entertain doubts as to its genuine nature, and Robert Knox believed it might have been produced by some Asian taxidermist. It was thought that somebody had sewn a duck’s beak onto the body of a beaver-like animal. Shaw even took a pair of scissors to the dried skin to check for stitches.

en.wikipedia.org

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 1, 2018 • 4:39:55pm

re: #12 Decatur Deb

Ya gotta admit, a platypus is a freakn’ ridiculous kludge. Like putting an Edsel grille on an E-Jag.

That’s called a “BMW”

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Decatur Deb  Feb 1, 2018 • 4:40:01pm

re: #11 bill d. (b.d.)

I’ll one up them, there ain’t no place as Australia.

Fake Continent.

So there.

If it weren’t for Mercator distortion it would look like Puerto Rico, but with electricity.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Feb 1, 2018 • 4:40:09pm

re: #2 FormerDirtDart

It really has been one of those weeks

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I thought the Anti-Darwinists loved an pointed to the platypus?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 1, 2018 • 4:41:35pm

re: #16 bill d. (b.d.)

I thought the Anti-Darwinists loved an pointed to the platypus?

Why? What does the Platypus get them?

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gocart mozart  Feb 1, 2018 • 4:43:18pm
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bill d. (b.d.)  Feb 1, 2018 • 4:43:25pm

re: #15 Decatur Deb

If it weren’t for Mercator distortion it would look like Puerto Rico, but with electricity.

If it were real it would be big:

The USA has a land area of almost 10 million square kilometres. Australia’s land area almost 7.7 million.

or so that is what the fable goes.

I’d hate to see those land vs. population political election maps for the not real Australia

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Charles Johnson  Feb 1, 2018 • 4:43:28pm

The Rage Furby is back on Facebook after his latest 30-day suspension, and he posted a lengthy rant denying he’s a Holocaust denier. LOL.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 1, 2018 • 4:43:29pm

re: #17 Blind Frog Belly White

Why? What does the Platypus get them?

It “had to be created” due to it’s bill, egg-laying, and poison spurs. Since there are no other mammals with all these qualities together, to a creationist it’s proof of God.

Creationists don’t really understand how Evolution by Natural Selection works.

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Kragar  Feb 1, 2018 • 4:43:48pm
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Belafon  Feb 1, 2018 • 4:43:56pm

re: #17 Blind Frog Belly White

Why? What does the Platypus get them?

Only God would be crazy enough to put something like that together? “I have fur and beaks left over. What am I going to do with these?”

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bill d. (b.d.)  Feb 1, 2018 • 4:43:56pm

re: #17 Blind Frog Belly White

Why? What does the Platypus get them?

A wrench to throw.

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ObserverArt  Feb 1, 2018 • 4:44:44pm

re: #4 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

A platypus … truther. What the actual bejesusing fuck.

If you can believe the earth is flat in 2018…then nothing is out of the realm of crazy when it comes to The Truth™!

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Feb 1, 2018 • 4:45:39pm

a breitbarter rationalizes away trump’s daca proposal:

Trump believes he can have a supermajority after elections, thus acted and negotiated towards holding down the status quo until reinforcements arrive. If he guessed wrong, then he offered up a poisoned gift that ensured that “damages” would be limited to a max of 1.8 million, with a firm and critical caveat that many continue to ignore or gloss over.

The caveat that only those with merit would get the nod. Based on those parameters, how many qualify? 50k?100k?300k? Whatever that number, it’ll be nowhere close to a million due to gang membership, welfare moochers, criminal records etc.

If Trump is wrong about national sentiment, then we all lose badly at the polls and deserve a fully open and unrestricted border.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Feb 1, 2018 • 4:46:08pm

RELEASE THE PLATYPUS MEMO!!

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Decatur Deb  Feb 1, 2018 • 4:46:27pm

re: #19 bill d. (b.d.)

If it were real it would be big:

or so that is what the fable goes.

I’d hate to see those land vs. population political election maps for the not real Australia

I’m so old I remember when it was discussed as the world’s biggest island. Fur reel.

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ObserverArt  Feb 1, 2018 • 4:47:02pm

re: #6 Blind Frog Belly White

Sewn onto what, exactly? That’s what I’d like to know.

MY GOD MAN! DOES IT MATTER??? THEY ARE SEWN ON!

Running in circles pulling hair out…

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bill d. (b.d.)  Feb 1, 2018 • 4:48:03pm

LOL….Chris Mathews…Carter Page is Kato Kaelin.

Pick up that ball and run with it wingnuts.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2018 • 4:48:32pm

re: #20 Charles Johnson

The Rage Furby is back on Facebook after his latest 30-day suspension, and he posted a lengthy rant denying he’s a Holocaust denier. LOL.

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I notice that the go to when being called out for being Antisemitic and or a Holocaust denier is “I love Israel.” Sorry that doesn’t make you less antisemitic or of a Holocaust denier.

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ObserverArt  Feb 1, 2018 • 4:48:53pm

re: #10 bill d. (b.d.)

I’m calling bullshit….because I just freaking have to.

But if we can pre-wire the WTC7 then why couldn’t we sew on platypus’ beaks?!?!

//

* Fake teh Platypus
* Something, something, something
* Profit and/or world domination through the new world order

The illuminazis. They’re here.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2018 • 4:49:03pm

re: #22 Kragar

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Fuckers.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Feb 1, 2018 • 4:49:22pm

re: #27 bill d. (b.d.)

RELEASE THE PLATYPUS MEMO!!

“what sick agenda do liberals think they advance with this platypus hoax, anyway??

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Decatur Deb  Feb 1, 2018 • 4:49:40pm

re: #22 Kragar

His name is Miguel Perez Jr. and he has lived in the U.S. since he was 8 years old

Except for the time he spent downrange!!1! Checkmate, libtard!

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bill d. (b.d.)  Feb 1, 2018 • 4:49:44pm

re: #28 Decatur Deb

I’m so old I remember when it was discussed as the world’s biggest island. Fur reel.

I’m old enough to remember when we walked on the moon, didn’t have a Southern Ocean and had an additional planet

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Ace-o-aces  Feb 1, 2018 • 4:50:55pm

re: #20 Charles Johnson

The Rage Furby is back on Facebook after his latest 30-day suspension, and he posted a lengthy rant denying he’s a Holocaust denier. LOL.

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“…lest my friends be targeted and harmed…”
As if he had friends.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 1, 2018 • 4:51:27pm

re: #36 bill d. (b.d.)

I’m old enough to remember when we walked on the moon, didn’t have a Southern Ocean and had an additional planet

Neil deGrasse Tyson has a lot to answer for.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 1, 2018 • 4:52:05pm

re: #31 HappyWarrior

I notice that the go to when being called out for being Antisemitic and or a Holocaust denier is “I love Israel.” Sorry that doesn’t make you less antisemitic or of a Holocaust denier.

It’s the equivalent of, “I have a black friend.”

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bill d. (b.d.)  Feb 1, 2018 • 4:52:10pm

re: #34 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

“what sick agenda do liberals think they advance with this platypus hoax, anyway??

Rupert Murdoch comes from the same place that platypus’ come from….that’s enough for me.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Feb 1, 2018 • 4:52:43pm

Platypus truthers are just one symptom of an alarming reality: Objective reality is not just breaking down for a lot of people, it is broken.

There is a whole, apparently profitable, YouTube page devoted to the claim that film clips from the 1890s are products of an alternate world since “that tech did not exist then, not in this timeline anyway.”
Of course it did exist, as extensively documented ever since, but the grifter who runs the place apparently realizes that his audience has no idea when film was invented. The average dimwit assuming there was nothing before the oldest film they have seen, the silents of the 1920s. The grifter relates this somehow to the Mandela Effect, the attempt by woo-woos to commercialize false memories by claiming they are real and it is the real world that has changed.

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ObserverArt  Feb 1, 2018 • 4:53:16pm

re: #14 Blind Frog Belly White

That’s called a “BMW”

Heh. I had a ‘71 Bavaria. It had the grill. Classic car.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2018 • 4:54:09pm

re: #39 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

It’s the equivalent of, “I have a black friend.”

Yep. It certainly is. And I imagine Jews are tired of it.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 1, 2018 • 4:56:27pm

re: #43 HappyWarrior

Yep. It certainly is. And I imagine Jews are tired of it.

Especially because it generally means you like Netanyahu.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 1, 2018 • 4:56:43pm

Weird shit tonight. We need a Friday Night Drinking Thread so tonight can be FNDT Eve.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 1, 2018 • 4:57:08pm

re: #22 Kragar

When this is over, we need to deprogram those who worked for ICE after it’s disbanded.

They’re starting to act like the Stazi or Savak.

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ObserverArt  Feb 1, 2018 • 4:58:03pm

re: #20 Charles Johnson

The Rage Furby is back on Facebook after his latest 30-day suspension, and he posted a lengthy rant denying he’s a Holocaust denier. LOL.

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Nobody knows fake news better than Chuck C. Johnson.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2018 • 4:58:12pm

re: #44 Blind Frog Belly White

Especially because it generally means you like Netanyahu.

Netanyahu is awful. I didn’t think I could dislike him enough but Wolff’s book actually strengthened that knowing that Bibi loves him some Steve Bannon.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 1, 2018 • 4:58:31pm

sigh

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2018 • 4:58:54pm

re: #46 Anymouse 🌹

When this is over, we need to deprogram those who worked for ICE after it’s disbanded.

They’re starting to act like the Stazi or Savak.

They’ve become that one federal government agency that the wingnuts do like.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 1, 2018 • 4:59:03pm

re: #46 Anymouse 🌹

When this is over, we need to deprogram those who worked for ICE after it’s disbanded.

They’re starting to act like the Stazi or Savak.

There is a last-ditch bureaucratic technique called “Work to rule”. I’m ever the optimist.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2018 • 4:59:32pm

re: #49 Stanley Sea

sigh

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Hannity is advising the POTUS? Goddamn. Well I guess I can’t be too shocked since Fox and Friends pretty much dictates his feelings for the day.

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darthstar  Feb 1, 2018 • 4:59:52pm

Fuck that Nazi who shares your name.

Here’s something interesting:

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gocart mozart  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:00:44pm

Don’t want to kick a Nazi when he’s down so I’ll just thow this out there

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bill d. (b.d.)  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:01:10pm

I really am ready to see just how tough the FBI can get when they are being attacked by someone with some power as opposed to the way they wield their power against the powerless.

So far, I am far from impressed.

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EPR-radar  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:01:47pm

re: #54 gocart mozart

If Milo Y goes down a path of self destruction, I won’t care at all, as long as he doesn’t bring anyone else down with him.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:02:07pm

re: #54 gocart mozart

Don’t want to kick a Nazi when he’s down so I’ll just thow this out there

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lol, what exactly would be the “wrong path” for Milo to go down on?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:02:28pm

re: #54 gocart mozart

Don’t want to kick a Nazi when he’s down so I’ll just thow this out there

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Having lost an uncle to drug and alcohol abuse, I feel sort of bad but it’s also hard for me to feel too much sympathy given the kind of shit he did when he was at the top of his fame. I hope he gets the help he needs and maybe learns from being a truly miserable piece of shit and tries to atone for the damage he’s done.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:02:35pm

re: #56 EPR-radar

If Milo Y goes down a path of self destruction, I won’t care at all, as long as he doesn’t bring anyone else down with him.

He just got married to some fool.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:02:44pm

re: #57 bill d. (b.d.)

lol, what exactly would be the “wrong path” for Milo to go down on?

He could change and become a liberal.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:03:07pm

re: #57 bill d. (b.d.)

lol, what exactly would be the “wrong path” for Milo to go down on?

Reformed evangelical TV sinner.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:03:54pm

re: #56 EPR-radar

If Milo Y goes down a path of self destruction, I won’t care at all, as long as he doesn’t bring anyone else down with him.

every drug Milo does takes a drug away from someone who might care about being a caring, decent person.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:03:57pm

re: #57 bill d. (b.d.)

lol, what exactly would be the “wrong path” for Milo to go down on?

He’s already on it. Has been for years.

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lawhawk  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:04:13pm

re: #53 darthstar

I think you may misunderstand what’s going on with Gates’ legal team.

He dumped all the lawyers but the one who is an expert in negotiating plea deals and cooperating with prosecutors.

Gates is rolling.

That’s my 2 cents.

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EPR-radar  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:04:31pm

re: #55 bill d. (b.d.)

I really am ready to see just how tough the FBI can get when they are being attacked by someone with some power as opposed to the way they wield their power against the powerless.

So far, I am far from impressed.

The intelligence community has probably planned for a scenario where the House and/or Senate committees on intelligence are compromised.

They have probably also planned for a scenario where the White House is compromised.

They probably didn’t plan for both situations to happen at once because the entire Republican party has turned traitor.

If I were running the IC, I would have a hard time coming up with a decent plan.

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ObserverArt  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:05:02pm

re: #49 Stanley Sea

sigh

Sam Stein

@samstein
Sean Hannity has been advising Trump on the Nunes memo and appears poised to win the battle over, among others, the FBI Director thedailybeast.com

scoop from @swin24 and @lachlan

7:49 PM - Feb 1, 2018

This will be deserved. The Republicans for all intents will have let Fox News take control. I hope the blowup and fallout are titanic.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:05:03pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:05:21pm

re: #64 lawhawk

I think you may misunderstand what’s going on with Gates’ legal team.

He dumped all the lawyers but the one who is an expert in negotiating plea deals and cooperating with prosecutors.

Gates is rolling.

That’s my 2 cents.

Oh, what would a whawk from LA know, anyway?
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bill d. (b.d.)  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:05:36pm

re: #59 Stanley Sea

He just got married to some fool.

Milo got married?!?!?!?

Before the blockbuster Milo and Chelsea Manning fix up wedding could happen?!?!?

Damn, that cost me $5.

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DodgerFan1988  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:05:42pm

What ever happened to Blue Lives Matter?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:07:29pm

re: #66 ObserverArt

This will be deserved. The Republicans for all intents will have let Fox News take control. I hope the blowup and fallout are titanic.

This would be like Lord HawHaw being Hitler’s chief adviser on Russia. “Tell the Wehrmacht not to bother packing winter clothes. It’ll all be over by July!!”

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:07:30pm

re: #70 DodgerFan1988

What ever happened to Blue Lives Matter?

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Oh now they acknowledge racist cops when trying to discredit the FBI for having the gall to see what Trump and his guys really are. FNC really is unfuckingbelievable with tehir bullshit.

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EPR-radar  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:07:47pm

re: #67 Stanley Sea

ICE could do sweeps like this anywhere in the nation, since entire industries (construction, agriculture) rely on undocumented workers.

So CA is deliberately chosen to fuck shit up in a blue state and give the Trumpists the news stories they want for their narratives.

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lawhawk  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:08:21pm

Trump, the infrastructure president. A legend in his own mind.

The reality: Trump conspiring with fellow real estate mogul to thwart funding plan Obama put in place to build Gateway tunnel project - the most critical mass transit project in the nation - so that both could funnel profits to their own real estate ventures.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:08:54pm

re: #70 DodgerFan1988

What ever happened to Blue Lives Matter?

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LOL, it won’t be long before FoxNews intro music will be some cop-killing rap that O’Rielly used to have a hemorrhage over.

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SteelPH  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:09:17pm

re: #72 HappyWarrior

Oh now they acknowledge racist cops when trying to discredit the FBI for having the gall to see what Trump and his guys really are. FNC really is unfuckingbelievable with tehir bullshit.

Nah, it’s totally believable.
Doesn’t make it any less putrid however.

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jaunte  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:09:35pm
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Decatur Deb  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:10:00pm

re: #73 EPR-radar

ICE could do sweeps like this anywhere in the nation, since entire industries (construction, agriculture) rely on undocumented workers.

So CA is deliberately chosen to fuck shit up in a blue state and give the Trumpists the news stories they want for their narratives.

If ICE gets religious in Alabama, a bunch of old farts are going to die mowing their lawns.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:10:56pm

re: #74 lawhawk

Trump, the infrastructure president. A legend in his own mind.

The reality: Trump conspiring with fellow real estate mogul to thwart funding plan Obama put in place to build Gateway tunnel project - the most critical mass transit project in the nation - so that both could funnel profits to their own real estate ventures.

Someone pointed out that the real infrastructure needs of the country aren’t big, splashy things like a new highway system, because we already have one of those. Most of it is replacing old worn out stuff with newer, higher capacity stuff. Trump doesn’t care about stuff like that. He wants a big highway with ‘TRUMP’ on it.

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EPR-radar  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:11:13pm

re: #75 bill d. (b.d.)

LOL, it won’t be long before FoxNews intro music will be some cop-killing rap that O’Rielly used to have a hemorrhage over.

Time for a repeat post of an especially pertinent part of 1984:

The horrible thing about the Two Minutes Hate was not that one was obliged to act a part, but that it was impossible to avoid joining in. Within thirty seconds any pretence was always unnecessary. A hideous ecstasy of fear and vindictiveness, a desire to kill, to torture, to smash faces in with a sledge hammer, seemed to flow through the whole group of people like an electric current, turning one even against one’s will into a grimacing, screaming lunatic. And yet the rage that one felt was an abstract, undirected emotion which could be switched from one object to another like the flame of a blowlamp.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:11:47pm

re: #77 jaunte

Did he mean that as a compliment?

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bill d. (b.d.)  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:12:29pm

re: #76 SteelPH

Nah, it’s totally believable.
Doesn’t make it any less putrid however.

I fear that my hope in Murdoch’s sons making FoxNews better will have to share the same file that has me hoping Kim Jong-il’s son making North Korea better.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:12:33pm

re: #78 Decatur Deb

If ICE gets religious in Alabama, a bunch of old farts are going to die mowing their lawns.

See how smart we are to have itty bitty lawns?

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jaunte  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:12:49pm

re: #81 Blind Frog Belly White

Yes he did.

Rivera: “I know, it’s too bad for — It’s too bad for Nixon, because nobody like you existed then. I say that because I believe that our prime responsibility now is to unshackle the 45th president of the United States.”

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jaunte  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:13:10pm

Nasty little fascists.

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EPR-radar  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:13:50pm

re: #82 bill d. (b.d.)

I fear that my hope in Murdoch’s sons making FoxNews better will have to share the same file that has me hoping Kim Jong-il’s son making North Korea better.

The Fox News business model is damn near perfect. Creating lies costs nothing at all.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:14:37pm

re: #73 EPR-radar

ICE could do sweeps like this anywhere in the nation, since entire industries (construction, agriculture) rely on undocumented workers.

So CA is deliberately chosen to fuck shit up in a blue state and give the Trumpists the news stories they want for their narratives.

Yup.

Pick a farm, any farm in yamland.
Pick a packing plant in yamland.
Pick any fucking business anywhere.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:15:27pm

re: #77 jaunte

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Geraldo is actually right because Hannity would lick Nixon’s nuts the same way he does Trump’s.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:15:39pm

re: #77 jaunte

Roger Ailes worked in the Nixon Administration, when Nixon wished there could be a “GOP TV.”

Cue Reagan and dispensing with the Fairness Doctrine, and Ailes was ready to go.

Conservatism has been about nothing but gaining and maintaining power my whole life.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:15:57pm

re: #84 jaunte

Yes he did.

Yeah I figuerd it was a compliment.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:16:29pm

re: #76 SteelPH

Nah, it’s totally believable.
Doesn’t make it any less putrid however.

True that.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:16:37pm

re: #86 EPR-radar

The Fox News business model is damn near perfect. Creating lies costs nothing at all.

I’d love to sit down and watch the movie V for Vendetta with the Murdoch kids.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:17:27pm

re: #84 jaunte

What the actual fuck? What in god’s name happened to this country? I mean, in the 80s and 1990s crime was MUCH worse, and mostly RISING, and we didn’t have so many people so willing to throw away self governance in favor of fascism.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:17:50pm

re: #77 jaunte

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With the empty vault Nunes memo coming out I figured they would keep Geraldo off the air for a bit.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:19:37pm

Releasing a super secret, over hyped memo on a Friday afternoon! Brilliant!

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dangerman  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:20:30pm

re: #27 bill d. (b.d.)

RELEASE THE PLATYPUS MEMO!!

release the tiger

YouTube

(sorry i thought we were playing this)

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gocart mozart  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:20:33pm
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Renaissance_Man  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:21:15pm

re: #93 Blind Frog Belly White

What the actual fuck? What in god’s name happened to this country? I mean, in the 80s and 1990s crime was MUCH worse, and mostly RISING, and we didn’t have so many people so willing to throw away self governance in favor of fascism.

FOX News happened. Americans were turned evil en masse by a never-ending, 24 hour barrage of emotional manipulation designed to make them angry and hateful.

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gocart mozart  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:21:36pm
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gocart mozart  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:21:53pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:22:01pm

re: #93 Blind Frog Belly White

What the actual fuck? What in god’s name happened to this country? I mean, in the 80s and 1990s crime was MUCH worse, and mostly RISING, and we didn’t have so many people so willing to throw away self governance in favor of fascism.

We didn’t have leaders like Trump spouting this shit. Even an asshole like Reagan wasn’t xenophobic towards immigrants.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:22:12pm

re: #96 dangerman

release the tiger

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Video

(sorry i thought we were playing this)

Memo, Platypus, Kraken…..Release them all!!!

They are all equally real.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:22:30pm

re: #93 Blind Frog Belly White

What the actual fuck? What in god’s name happened to this country? I mean, in the 80s and 1990s crime was MUCH worse, and mostly RISING, and we didn’t have so many people so willing to throw away self governance in favor of fascism.

Conservatism is always about gaining and maintaining power. Fascism is a component of conservatism, and has existed in this country as long as fascism has existed (see the Business Plot to overthrow FDR).

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:22:41pm

re: #98 Renaissance_Man

FOX News happened. Americans were turned evil en masse by a never-ending, 24 hour barrage of emotional manipulation designed to make them angry and hateful.

I’m just glad there wasn’t FNC when my family arrived. The red baiting that existed towards Eastern Europeans back then was bad enough but it would have been even worse if FNC was there to egg it on.

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gocart mozart  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:22:48pm
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gocart mozart  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:23:25pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:23:37pm

re: #103 gocart mozart

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Tomi, you talk about leftists being offended being a sport, you belong to an ideology where people get their shit bunched over fucking coffee cups. If you actually knew history rather than being a Millennial Coulter wannabe, you’d know why we have a problem with the phrase, you stupid hack.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:24:06pm

re: #93 Blind Frog Belly White

What the actual fuck? What in god’s name happened to this country? I mean, in the 80s and 1990s crime was MUCH worse, and mostly RISING, and we didn’t have so many people so willing to throw away self governance in favor of fascism.

In the 80s the same people who love Trump now loved John Gotti then and we locked his sorry ass up, no problem.

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gocart mozart  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:24:23pm
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ObserverArt  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:24:31pm

So congressman Joaquin Castro is telling Chris Hayes Nunes has never read the backing documents and evidence used to create his memo. Chris Hayes said is that true? Castro: yes! Hayes: Then it is like a book report without having read the book.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:24:36pm

re: #103 gocart mozart

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:26:02pm

re: #111 gocart mozart

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When all is said and done, I have a feeling the Lumpy Dump is going to wind up in irons along with the rest of them.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:26:08pm

re: #110 bill d. (b.d.)

In the 80s the same people who love Trump now loved John Gotti then and we locked his sorry ass up, no problem.

Coincidentally, Trump I believe did have connections to the Gambinos.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:27:05pm

re: #111 gocart mozart

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I can’t wait for Trump to fire Alan Colmes (rip)

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EPR-radar  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:29:34pm

re: #112 ObserverArt

So congressman Joaquin Castro is telling Chris Hayes Nunes has never read the backing documents and evidence used to create his memo. Chris Hayes said is that true? Castro: yes! Hayes: Then it is like a book report without having read the book.

It makes perfect sense. Nunes knows what he wants his memo to say. The actual facts in the committee transcripts are completely irrelevant.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:30:14pm

re: #116 bill d. (b.d.)

I can’t wait for Trump to fire Alan Colmes (rip)

I mocked Colmes back in the day but he was a bigger man than I am because I wouldn’t be able to keep my cool with a dickhead like Lumpy.

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dangerman  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:30:15pm

re: #49 Stanley Sea

sigh

Sean Hannity has been advising Trump on the Nunes memo and appears poised to win the battle over, among others, the FBI Director

does that suck him into this and expose him somehow?

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jaunte  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:30:32pm

re: #103 gocart mozart

No fair, making Turgid Lamprey read.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:30:37pm

Season Finale of The Good Place!

Why are they scheduling these shows with such long breaks between episodes?

Has it always been that way?

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scottslemmons  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:31:10pm

re: #41 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Platypus truthers are just one symptom of an alarming reality: Objective reality is not just breaking down for a lot of people, it is broken.

There is a whole, apparently profitable, YouTube page devoted to the claim that film clips from the 1890s are products of an alternate world since “that tech did not exist then, not in this timeline anyway.”
Of course it did exist, as extensively documented ever since, but the grifter who runs the place apparently realizes that his audience has no idea when film was invented. The average dimwit assuming there was nothing before the oldest film they have seen, the silents of the 1920s. The grifter relates this somehow to the Mandela Effect, the attempt by woo-woos to commercialize false memories by claiming they are real and it is the real world that has changed.

My weird youth — not even youth, I think it was my college years and post-college and probably past that — had me reading up on conspiracy theories a lot. Didn’t believe ‘em, just loved reading about the weird things people believed. Collected INWO cards, read Illuminatus! and the Principia Discordia and Donna Kossy’s Kooks. It’s unreal to live in a world where Flat Earthism is increasing in popularity, where people think THEY invented the platypus for inscrutible reasons — and where some of the deranged stuff from conspiracy myth is real, like the Russians compromising a candidate and rewiring the election.

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dangerman  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:31:46pm

re: #112 ObserverArt

So congressman Joaquin Castro is telling Chris Hayes Nunes has never read the backing documents and evidence used to create his memo. Chris Hayes said is that true? Castro: yes! Hayes: Then it is like a book report without having read the book.

this is kind of where i was going this morning a few threads ago
the fisa warrant has to be supported by a ream of dox

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:33:10pm

re: #122 scottslemmons

The Principia Discordia is a conspiracy theory?

(Checks my two copies of Principia Discordia)

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SteelPH  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:33:30pm

re: #118 HappyWarrior

I mocked Colmes back in the day but he was a bigger man than I am because I wouldn’t be able to keep my cool with a dickhead like Lumpy.

I remember when Alan Colmes interviewed Charles. Good times.

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JordanRules  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:34:00pm

re: #123 dangerman

And the Dems memo is correctly based on that.

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dangerman  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:35:00pm

re: #126 JordanRules

And the Dems memo is correctly based on that.

cites and sources? not fair! it’s a trick

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:35:32pm

re: #103 gocart mozart

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BlueGrl21  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:36:01pm

re: #62 bill d. (b.d.)

every drug Milo does takes a drug away from someone who might care about being a caring, decent person.

Tangent. Kinda.

I’m on a new medication for my twitchy brain. Went to pick it up today. $1200.

I have insurance.

My doc was able to call in a less expensive one, thank God.

1. How the FUCK do people live in this country without medical insurance?

2. Who is so much of a horrible person to want to take insurance away from people? I mean….seriously?!?!

3. How do people expect the mentally ill to get better and maintain it without access to both doctors and medications?

4. $1200 for 30 pills? Really? Is it platinum-plated pure Colombian?

5. Fuck Milo.

Today has not been radiant.

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scottslemmons  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:36:24pm

re: #124 Anymouse 🌹

The Principia Discordia is a conspiracy theory?

(Checks my two copies of Principia Discordia)

All statements are true in some sense, false in some sense, meaningless in some sense, true and false in some sense, true and meaningless in some sense, false and meaningless in some sense, and true and false and meaningless in some sense.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:37:06pm

Takedown of Trump’s State of the Union address:

variety.com

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DodgerFan1988  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:37:09pm

re: #111 gocart mozart

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ObserverArt  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:37:09pm

re: #123 dangerman

this is kind of where i was going this morning a few threads ago
the fisa warrant has to be supported by a ream of dox

Yep. I saw those posts. There is a lot of documentation. It is like a police case to get a warrant, probably stricter too.

And Nunes has no knowledge of any of it. He took the results of Carter being surveilled and built his own story, err, memo around how he thought it was all thin and should never have allowed the warrant to be created by the FISA court.

Al least there are outlets getting the story out. Sure, some will never believe the facts, but the facts still need airing.

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SteelPH  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:37:43pm

re: #129 BlueGrl21

Tangent. Kinda.

I’m on a new medication for my twitchy brain. Went to pick it up today. $1200.

I have insurance.

My doc was able to call in a less expensive one, thank God.

1. How the FUCK do people live in this country without medical insurance?

2. Who is so much of a horrible person to want to take insurance away from people? I mean….seriously?!?!

3. How do people expect the mentally ill to get better and maintain it without access to both doctors and medications?

4. $1200 for 30 pills? Really? Is it platinum-plated pure Colombian?

4. Fuck Milo.

Today has not been radiant.

{{{BlueGrl21}}}

These people are fucking monsters.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:38:13pm

re: #125 SteelPH

I remember when Alan Colmes interviewed Charles. Good times.

Yeah I remember that. Colmes was a decent guy. Too decent for the pundit world and I mean that as a compliment to Alan.

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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:39:54pm

Damn, Stoney writes great essays.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:40:08pm

re: #130 scottslemmons

All statements are true in some sense, false in some sense, meaningless in some sense, true and false in some sense, true and meaningless in some sense, false and meaningless in some sense, and true and false and meaningless in some sense.

Principia Discordia, Book of Uterus:

7. And under Eris Confusion became established, and was hence called Bureaucracy; while over Bureaucracy Eris became established, and was hence called Discordia.

8. By the by it came to pass that the Establishment of Bureaucracy perished in a paper shortage.

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Brian J.  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:40:20pm

re: #49 Stanley Sea

sigh

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If the FBI wished to undo what they have done, they’d have to admit that they conspired to put the orange slug in office, tell him and the Indiana slimeball that they have one day to resign and leave the US forever, and that there will be nowhere they can hide if they refuse this “offer.”

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bill d. (b.d.)  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:41:40pm

re: #129 BlueGrl21

$1,200?!?!

I had a recent medical problem….fixed…thank you. Talked to my boss and he was saying that he was doing a pill of a similar price to stave off a type of leukemia.

It is phenomenal what we can do and equally phenomenal the pricing of it.

He told me about his condition as a way of apologizing for our crappy insurance.

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dangerman  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:42:07pm

re: #133 ObserverArt

Yep. I saw those posts. There is a lot of documentation. It is like a police case to get a warrant, probably stricter too.

And Nunes has no knowledge of any of it. He took the results of Carter being surveilled and built his own story, err, memo around how he thought it was all thin and should never have allowed the warrant to be created by the FISA court.

Al least there are outlets getting the story out. Sure, some will never believe the facts, but the facts still need airing.

Intelligence committee chair
You’d think he knew how this stuff works
Makes him look clueless and unqualified

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Bubblehead II  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:42:13pm

re: #125 SteelPH

I remember when Alan Colmes interviewed Charles. Good times.

This one? I must of missed it.

Charles Johnson of Little Green Footballs on Alan Colmes’ Liberaland - Part II

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EPR-radar  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:43:01pm

re: #130 scottslemmons

All statements are true in some sense, false in some sense, meaningless in some sense, true and false in some sense, true and meaningless in some sense, false and meaningless in some sense, and true and false and meaningless in some sense.

I don’t know. 2 + 2 = 4 seems rock solid to me.

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Brian J.  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:43:22pm

re: #140 dangerman

Intelligence committee chair
You’d think he knew how this stuff works
Makes him look clueless and unqualified

As long as the media and FBI are his Praetorian guard, he doesn’t care. And the Russians will happily “correct” the results of an election that doesn’t go as it “should.”

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:44:02pm

I’m off to watch a movie. Catch y’all later… .

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dangerman  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:44:27pm

re: #129 BlueGrl21

Tangent. Kinda.

I’m on a new medication for my twitchy brain. Went to pick it up today. $1200.

I have insurance.

My doc was able to call in a less expensive one, thank God.

1. How the FUCK do people live in this country without medical insurance?

2. Who is so much of a horrible person to want to take insurance away from people? I mean….seriously?!?!

3. How do people expect the mentally ill to get better and maintain it without access to both doctors and medications?

4. $1200 for 30 pills? Really? Is it platinum-plated pure Colombian?

4. Fuck Milo.

Today has not been radiant.

Going thru something similar. Very expensive and long term.

I’m reminded …cause of the daily pill cocktails …and am grateful for insurance coverage every single day. Sometimes more than once.

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BeachDem  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:44:31pm

re: #97 gocart mozart

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As I said to the Duchess, “If you want to be a duchess, be a duchess. If you want to make love, hats off.”

(Although in Page’s case, I think it would “lights out.”)

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:45:40pm

re: #142 EPR-radar

I don’t know. 2 + 2 = 4 seems rock solid to me.

It would be false in Base Three. There is no “4” in base three.

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ObserverArt  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:46:12pm

re: #140 dangerman

Intelligence committee chair
You’d think he knew how this stuff works
Makes him look clueless and unqualified

I think he does know.
It makes him look a part of a conspiracy.

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BeachDem  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:48:12pm

re: #106 gocart mozart

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Or young Newt

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MsJ  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:49:18pm

re: #118 HappyWarrior

I mocked Colmes back in the day but he was a bigger man than I am because I wouldn’t be able to keep my cool with a dickhead like Lumpy.

Lumpy want as nuts when Colmes was there as he is now. He wasn’t as lumpy, either.

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gocart mozart  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:50:13pm

re: #149 BeachDem

Damn!

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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:50:25pm

I’d be remiss if I didn’t post this in an UpChuck thread.

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MsJ  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:51:17pm

re: #131 Anymouse 🌹

Takedown of Trump’s State of the Union address:

variety.com

Brutal.

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jaunte  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:52:37pm
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Belafon  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:54:37pm

re: #147 Anymouse 🌹

It would be false in Base Three. There is no “4” in base three.

You can define symbols. In base three, you could define “4” = 11, in the same way we define M=1000 in base 10. If you didn’t do it, the symbol would have no meaning, and neither would the statement.

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gocart mozart  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:54:47pm
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Ace Rothstein  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:56:03pm

re: #27 bill d. (b.d.)

PLATYPUSGHAZI!!!!

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dangerman  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:56:38pm

re: #148 ObserverArt

I think he does know.
It makes him look a part of a conspiracy.

Pretty much the only two options
Conspirator or clueless

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bill d. (b.d.)  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:57:12pm

OK FBI, it’s not like this is defining moment for y’all or something.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:58:32pm

re: #46 Anymouse 🌹

Yep. They’re acting heartless. Taking a recovering child out of a hospital bed was the last straw for me.

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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2018 • 5:58:34pm
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EPR-radar  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:01:47pm

re: #159 bill d. (b.d.)

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OK FBI, it’s not like this is defining moment for y’all or something.

There has never been a Democratic director of the FBI. Republican presidents name Republican FBI directors because of course, and Democratic presidents name Republican FBI directors because of “bipartisanship” bullshit that is only ever applied to Democrats.

Now a Republican president is explicitly looking to make all Federal agencies, including the FBI, into his personal goon squads. IMO it’s time for the intelligence community, including the FBI, to go to war against this lawless president.

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jaunte  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:02:04pm
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gocart mozart  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:04:36pm
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Brian J.  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:07:07pm

re: #162 EPR-radar

There has never been a Democratic director of the FBI. Republican presidents name Republican FBI directors because of course, and Democratic presidents name Republican FBI directors because of “bipartisanship” bullshit that is only ever applied to Democrats.

Now a Republican president is explicitly looking to make all Federal agencies, including the FBI, into his personal goon squads. IMO it’s time for the intelligence community, including the FBI, to go to war against this lawless president.

They can’t. They conspired to put this guy into office, and they did it for a reason: they agree with him on how to enforce the law against the dusky-skinned and the not-American-enough.

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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:08:20pm
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Ace Rothstein  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:10:22pm

re: #166 teleskiguy

Which bible?

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EPR-radar  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:10:37pm

re: #165 Brian J.

They can’t. They conspired to put this guy into office, and they did it for a reason: they agree with him on how to enforce the law against the dusky-skinned and the not-American-enough.

I prefer to assume the FBI is presently in a conflict between its deplorable J Edgar Hoover and COINTELPRO traditions and its ideals of being a professional national law enforcement agency.

We’ll know soon enough which it is.

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Citizen K  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:11:10pm

re: #166 teleskiguy

Spoiler: “Adam” and “Eve”, even conceding the idea that they existed, were probably Black. Just saying.

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jaunte  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:12:36pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:15:04pm

re: #166 teleskiguy

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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:15:28pm

re: #167 Ace Rothstein

The old one. Written in Latin. I think?

The Bonus Chapter of this book - which lays out the rules for The Game of GNAR - is my bible.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:15:40pm
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Stanley Sea  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:16:25pm

re: #149 BeachDem

Or young Newt

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oh lawd

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bill d. (b.d.)  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:18:45pm

re: #162 EPR-radar

Dems also have to appoint a GOP’er as Sec. of Defense too.

Time for those days to be over.

I hope that the Trump administration turns out to be a Democratic spine growing exercise.

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BadgerB  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:20:16pm

re: #117 EPR-radar

It makes perfect sense. Nunes knows what he wants his memo to say. The actual facts in the committee transcripts are completely irrelevant

inconvenient and therefore do not exist.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:20:28pm

re: #131 Anymouse 🌹

Takedown of Trump’s State of the Union address:

variety.com

That’s a powerful article. I didn’t know that MS-13 originated in Los Angeles. Was always under the impression that it started in Mexico. Perhaps someone needs to inform Trump and other Republicans of this fact.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:21:12pm
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Patricia Kayden  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:22:36pm

re: #164 gocart mozart

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Why not? No different than Trump praising Neo Nazis as good people after they beat up opponents and killed a protester in Charlottesville.

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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:23:05pm

Yup, Fuckface Von Clownstick cheats like hell when he plays golf.

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ObserverArt  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:24:07pm

re: #177 Patricia Kayden

That’s a powerful article. I didn’t know that MS-13 originated in Los Angeles. Was always under the impression that it started in Mexico. Perhaps someone needs to inform Trump and other Republicans of this fact.

I think it started in the jails of California and it really was more created by guys from El Salvador.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:24:39pm

re: #178 Charles Johnson

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:25:26pm

re: #170 jaunte

All while screaming “Blue Lives Matter” and claiming to be the Party of Law and Order.

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Skip Intro  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:25:43pm

re: #182 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

And Republican Congressmen.

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William Lewis  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:25:59pm

re: #130 scottslemmons

All statements are true in some sense, false in some sense, meaningless in some sense, true and false in some sense, true and meaningless in some sense, false and meaningless in some sense, and true and false and meaningless in some sense.

Don’t be making me get out my copy of On Certainty by Wittgenstein… ;)

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EPR-radar  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:27:08pm

re: #185 William Lewis

Don’t be making me get out my copy of On Certainty by Wittgenstein… ;)

I’m a bit rusty on my philosophers, but isn’t Wittgenstein famous for being difficult to read/understand?

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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:27:10pm

THIS IS TOTALLY NORMAL, WARM WEATHER IS BETTER, LIBTARD!

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Stanley Sea  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:29:01pm

JeffFX posted!! tks

retweeted by David Fahrenthold

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ObserverArt  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:30:46pm

re: #164 gocart mozart

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That article is gonna really upset the redheaded rage machine Chucky C. Right off it links the Gawker story that had the words “the web’s worst journalist” in it.

I think he hates that story. Heh.

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gocart mozart  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:33:18pm
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goddamnedfrank  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:35:23pm
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MsJ  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:38:23pm

re: #181 ObserverArt

I think it started in the jails of California and it really was more created by guys from El Salvador.

That’s what my understanding was. El Salvador. Nothing to do with Mexico at all.

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EPR-radar  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:39:37pm

re: #191 goddamnedfrank

Trump’s selection process for his early nominations was obviously not rigorous enough. Real enthusiasm and eternal dog-like devotion need to be demonstrated, preferably in as primitive and sexual a ritual as can be conceived of by a degenerate like Trump.

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ObserverArt  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:41:37pm

re: #192 MsJ

That’s what my understanding was. El Salvador. Nothing to do with Mexico at all.

I believe they have expanded their territory to Mexico and even New York and some other east coast states. Bad people into all kinds of criminal activities not just drugs.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:43:00pm

This escalated quickly.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:44:38pm

re: #195 goddamnedfrank

Lol!!! I’m dying. What the hell?!

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Belafon  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:44:41pm

re: #195 goddamnedfrank

This escalated quickly.

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That’s a pretty harsh judgment on the waitstaff.

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Jay C  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:44:54pm

re: #195 goddamnedfrank

This escalated quickly.

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So when Jesus comes back, we should throw him a catered party? Cool….

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dangerman  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:45:13pm

re: #166 teleskiguy

The Bible says that we’re all descendants of Adam and Eve

So it’s incestuous all the way down?

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:46:23pm
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jaunte  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:46:36pm

re: #195 goddamnedfrank

Try the whiplash special!

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The Ghost of a Flea  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:46:41pm

Man, I haven’t had to fire this up in awhile.

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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:46:46pm

re: #199 dangerman

So it’s incestuous all the way down?

We’re all a bunch of inbred motherfuckers.

Giphy

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Belafon  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:47:11pm

re: #202 The Ghost of a Flea

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Man, I haven’t had to fire this up in awhile.

That can be for so many. Which one in particular?

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Dave In Austin  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:48:38pm

Rachel is interviewing Clark Kent…

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danarchy  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:50:26pm

re: #181 ObserverArt

I think it started in the jails of California and it really was more created by guys from El Salvador.

Yes MS-13 was born in America. There was a huge gang crackdown in California and most of the MS-13 shot callers were rounded up and thrown in jail. When their sentences were up, they were deported back to El Salvador where they metastasized and really started spreading everywhere. We’ve had some MS-13 trouble even here in Massachusetts.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:51:32pm

re: #204 Belafon

I always post it when I spot a CCJ article. Though it sees use with reference to other people.

I have my quirky board rituals.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:51:49pm

re: #169 Citizen K

Spoiler: “Adam” and “Eve”, even conceding the idea that they existed, were probably Black. Just saying.

O-o! Serious plot twist. Christianists aren’t going to like that.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:52:10pm

re: #207 The Ghost of a Flea

I always post it when I spot a CCJ article. Though it sees use with reference to other people.

I have my quirky board rituals.

Many of us do. You know which picture of mine always comes into play whenever the current Vice President of the United States is mentioned.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:52:13pm

re: #200 goddamnedfrank

Maybe Jesus is bussing the table? Really well?

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bill d. (b.d.)  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:53:07pm

re: #205 Dave In Austin

Rachel is interviewing Clark Kent…

lol, yep.

if there ever was a time for a superhero

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The Ghost of a Flea  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:55:41pm

re: #209 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Many of us do. You know which picture of mine always comes into play whenever the current Vice President of the United States is mentioned.

It has been awhile since someone’s said something so egregiously dumb that the only response possible was a picture of Sean Connery as Zed from Zardoz.

The troll-catching has gotten too tight.

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Sea Mexican!  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:55:48pm

re: #195 goddamnedfrank

This escalated quickly.

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Even the Kik chat bots are going, “dude, debug before going out in public, ok?”

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:56:50pm

re: #212 The Ghost of a Flea

It has been awhile since someone’s said something so egregiously dumb that the only response possible was a picture of Sean Connery as Zed from Zardoz.

The troll-catching has gotten too tight.

He still lets a few chew toys through every now and again, but I’m never around for them. I have a few in my image library that I haven’t used in some time… Might be time for a trip down memory lane!

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The Ghost of a Flea  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:57:55pm

re: #214 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Time to deploy my auxillary CCJ image.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:58:31pm

Oh yeah. Here’s an oldie but a goodie. Also applicable to the appearance of the Rage Furby and his inevitable tsunami of derp! Bonus!

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Belafon  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:59:10pm

re: #211 bill d. (b.d.)

lol, yep.

if there ever was a time for a superhero

I watched a video speculating on the DC cinematic universe. They had an interesting suggestion for Superman: Rather than giving him his own movies, they should use him like Marvel does the Hulk in ensemble movies, because he works better in those than by himself.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 1, 2018 • 6:59:21pm

re: #210 The Ghost of a Flea

Maybe Jesus is bussing the table? Really well?

Having worked my fair share of restaurant jobs in the past I’d say the odds are pretty good a Jesus was there.

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William Lewis  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:00:14pm

re: #186 EPR-radar

I’m a bit rusty on my philosophers, but isn’t Wittgenstein famous for being difficult to read/understand?

Eh, I’ll be nice. His early work is horrific to understand and in the end he even decided it was nonsense. His later works (Philosophical Investigations, etc) still isn’t easy (he was the top philosopher of the 20th century) but it’s not on the same level as that or even, really, as hard as understanding Nietzsche when he’s on about tragedy & Wagner.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:01:31pm

re: #218 goddamnedfrank

Jesus Gonna Be Here

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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:01:37pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:02:08pm

In the absence of trolls, this one doesn’t get a lot of use either, but it could serve well for the Twitterers out there.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:02:40pm

My effort to decompress. I’ll still share with you.

So Ellie from Broadchurch is going to be the next gen Elizabeth in The Crown S3.

I don’t see it. But I bet she’ll do it well & the production of that show is top notch.

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jaunte  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:03:18pm

“Russian officials — who have repeatedly denied state involvement in doping*, despite the evidence — were quick to express satisfaction over the decision to clear the 28 athletes.”

*Officials also deny state involvement in intimidation of the Court of Arbitration for Sport.

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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:03:44pm
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William Lewis  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:04:19pm

re: #169 Citizen K

Spoiler: “Adam” and “Eve”, even conceding the idea that they existed, were probably Black. Just saying.

Adam and Eve were Australopithecus Afarensis and their neighbor was Lucy.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:05:04pm

re: #224 jaunte

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*Officials also deny state involvement in intimidation of the Court of Arbitration for Sport.

I am sure that the recent reports of hacked Olympic Committee member’s emails had nothing to do with letting the Russians back in.

At all!

We need to shut these cyberpunks down now.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:06:09pm

re: #226 William Lewis

And Steve.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:06:19pm
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bill d. (b.d.)  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:07:11pm

re: #229 Charles Johnson

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Hard to argue with that!

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:07:14pm

Bronx teacher sparks outrage for using black students in cruel slavery lesson

Brains of a nematode, sensitivity of a hyena:

Middle School 118 teacher Patricia Cummings shocked and traumatized children in her social studies classes when she singled out black students and told them to lie on the floor for a lesson on U.S. slavery — and then stepped on their backs to show them what slavery felt like, students and a staffer said.

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jaunte  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:07:30pm

Pee Denialist Jesse Wetters.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:09:35pm

re: #229 Charles Johnson

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I guess Jesse Watters is use to defending arson suspects?

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jaunte  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:10:43pm
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Kragar  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:11:13pm

re: #103 gocart mozart

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bill d. (b.d.)  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:11:14pm

re: #229 Charles Johnson

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“How can you have any pudding if you don’t eat yer meat?!” —
Jesse Watters

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jaunte  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:11:28pm
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jaunte  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:12:50pm

EARTH SHAKING

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Charles Johnson  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:13:01pm
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sagehen  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:13:48pm

re: #41 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

The grifter relates this somehow to the Mandela Effect, the attempt by woo-woos to commercialize false memories by claiming they are real and it is the real world that has changed.

Last night’s X-Files was all about the Mandela Effect.

Other eps this season feature Russians taking over the FBI (because our new president made a deal) and dead friends calling from the virtual reality their brains were uploaded to.

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jaunte  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:13:56pm

Information just want to flow freely.

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JordanRules  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:13:57pm

re: #229 Charles Johnson

This can’t be life!!!!!!!!!

This cant be.

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jaunte  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:14:46pm

What is Trump’s true liquidity?

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Kragar  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:15:55pm

re: #229 Charles Johnson

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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:16:19pm

re: #243 jaunte

What is Trump’s true liquidity?

Dude has no liquid assets, it’s all tied up in debt to Russian oligarchs.

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dangerman  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:16:45pm

re: #236 bill d. (b.d.)

Stand still laddie!!!!!!

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bill d. (b.d.)  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:16:51pm

re: #243 jaunte

What is Trump’s true liquidity?

There’s a two bedroom, 1-1/2 bath dacha with a partial view of the Caspian.

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jaunte  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:16:52pm

re: #245 teleskiguy

He’s not flush?

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Kragar  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:17:19pm
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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:28:48pm

re: #248 jaunte

He’s definitely not a billionaire.

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Kragar  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:29:43pm

re: #251 teleskiguy

He’s definitely not a billionaire.

That depends on the conversion rate for rubles, doesn’t it?

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ObserverArt  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:31:24pm

re: #229 Charles Johnson

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I only know of Jesse Watters from videos posted here.

Is he there to really spout the craze? He seems to roll in it.

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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:31:35pm

re: #252 Kragar

That depends on the conversion rate for rubles, doesn’t it?

Touché.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:33:51pm

re: #244 Kragar

I’m not working from a solid basis here, but: I’m guessing if you’re paying premium for mattress-defiling urinating hookers, there’s a designated piss room.

Or at least that’s what I hope, for the sake of the housekeeping crew.

*shiver*

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jaunte  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:34:04pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:35:28pm

re: #255 The Ghost of a Flea

Man, I assemble some disturbing words on this board. I’m sort of proud.

Sort of.

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jaunte  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:41:21pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:44:11pm

re: #257 The Ghost of a Flea

Did I actually post the sentence where I used both the word “tontine” and the phrase “pimp hand”?

I can’t remember if I managed to restrain myself.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:49:07pm

re: #238 jaunte

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EARTH SHAKING

King never met a bunch of right wing bullshit he didn’t like. Klansman King is an idiot.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:50:25pm

re: #253 ObserverArt

I only know of Jesse Watters from videos posted here.

Is he there to really spout the craze? He seems to roll in it.

He’s O’Reilly’s replacement. Except more ignorant but not a spouse abuser so it’s a wash.

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jaunte  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:50:43pm
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scottslemmons  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:51:15pm

Off-topic: Botnik Studios, the people who made the neural-net predictive text Harry Potter book, Coachella bands, and more, have now made a Star Trek: The Next Generation script.

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JordanRules  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:55:22pm

Balloon Boy part 2 on Saturday!

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MsJ  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:56:06pm

re: #261 HappyWarrior

He’s O’Reilly’s replacement. Except more ignorant but not a spouse abuser so it’s a wash.

That we know of.

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JordanRules  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:57:06pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Feb 1, 2018 • 7:59:02pm

re: #263 scottslemmons

1: Troi feels something.
2: That thing kicks the shit out of Worf.
3: LaForge fails to get it on with whatever it is.
4: Picard quotes Shakespeare.
5: Riker succeeds in getting it on with whatever it is.
6: Data muses about how he’s not human in the most human way possible.
7: Something, something, deflector shields.
8: Problem is solved.
9: Picard quotes “Moby Dick.”
10: Fuck off, Wesley.

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ObserverArt  Feb 1, 2018 • 8:01:52pm

re: #264 JordanRules

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Balloon Boy part 2 on Saturday!

I think he said he was going to do this back in November and then he went silent?

He’s going to hurt himself or worse. His whole “rocket” is questionable at best

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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2018 • 8:05:44pm

Some music.

Fun fact: Kim Thayil from Soundgarden plays lead guitar on this track.

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Bubblehead II  Feb 1, 2018 • 8:08:43pm

New Bob Cesca show.

Sleepy Grandpa

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MsJ  Feb 1, 2018 • 8:13:46pm
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Belafon  Feb 1, 2018 • 8:14:43pm

I played the metal version of Africa by Toto for my kids that someone had put up here the other day. Because my youngest had not heard of the original, I also played the original music video. Watch it, because someone in it is trying to protect the location of Wakanda:

Toto - Africa

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The Ghost of a Flea  Feb 1, 2018 • 8:18:01pm

re: #271 MsJ

The reason they want you scared of people with glaring superficial differences is that it’s a smokescreen for the scarier reality that anybody can be fucking awful.

And that’s a stance that’s very convenient for predators, because it’s camouflage.

Camouflage or that skin suit from The Silence of the Lambs.

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jaunte  Feb 1, 2018 • 8:18:56pm

re: #271 MsJ

“…The new charges include Child Molesting, a Level 4 Felony, and Child Solicitation, a Level 5 Felony.

Evans previously was charged with Child Molesting, Child Solicitation, and Sexual Battery involving five alleged victims. Evans posted the $20,000 bond soon after it was set by the Judge.
rushvillerepublican.com

That seems an absurdly low bond for multiple child molestations.

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jaunte  Feb 1, 2018 • 8:19:30pm

“Rush County Prosecutor Phil Caviness explained that the fact that these charges bring the number of alleged victims to six justifies a higher bond than the standard Level 4 Felony case,”

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BeachDem  Feb 1, 2018 • 8:20:21pm

re: #218 goddamnedfrank

Having worked my fair share of restaurant jobs in the past I’d say the odds are pretty good a Jesus was there.

GLEN CAMPBELL - “I Knew Jesus (Before He Was A Star)”

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Stanley Sea  Feb 1, 2018 • 8:30:47pm

ohh, doing the youtube shuffle tonight.

Found Melissa Etheridge & Bruce Springsteen. Thunder Road.

Bruce Springsteen and Melissa Etheridge - Thunder Road

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Kragar  Feb 1, 2018 • 8:31:25pm
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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Feb 1, 2018 • 8:31:57pm

re: #274 jaunte

That seems an absurdly low bond for multiple child molestations.

The creep is back in jail, along with his fully supportive creep-wife:
Rushville pastor at center of child molestation charges arrested for trespassing
As I understand it, the freshly bonded sicko and his wife went to someone’s house looking for “a family member” (said to be their son in another story) whom they believed had been supportive of the prosecution. They wer told to leave, they refused, the occupants produced a gun and called police. More background:
Rushville pastor charged with molesting children now faces trespassing charge
Since there is an obvious conflict between the son and his parents, I’m guessing that one of the victims may be the son’s daughter, the perv’s own grandaughter.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 1, 2018 • 8:34:37pm

re: #268 ObserverArt

I think he said he was going to do this back in November and then he went silent?

He’s going to hurt himself or worse. His whole “rocket” is questionable at best

Questionable?
The high level of advanced technology employed is literally staggering


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JordanRules  Feb 1, 2018 • 8:36:14pm

re: #278 Kragar

Aww, that woulda been Omarosa’s job!

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 1, 2018 • 8:39:14pm

This comes as there is a ballot measure set to be voted on this November to restore voting rights to people who had completed their sentences, unless they had been convicted of murder or a serious sex offense.

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Kragar  Feb 1, 2018 • 8:39:45pm
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FormerDirtDart  Feb 1, 2018 • 8:40:51pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 1, 2018 • 8:41:58pm

re: #274 jaunte

That seems an absurdly low bond for multiple child molestations.

Did Reverend Short Eyes say to the Judge that Jay-Zuss forgave him of his sins?????

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ckkatz  Feb 1, 2018 • 8:44:03pm

re: #65 EPR-radar

The intelligence community has probably planned for a scenario where the House and/or Senate committees on intelligence are compromised.

They have probably also planned for a scenario where the White House is compromised.

They probably didn’t plan for both situations to happen at once because the entire Republican party has turned traitor.

If I were running the IC, I would have a hard time coming up with a decent plan.

Assuming that the Trump appointee heads of the IC aren’t part of the problem.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 1, 2018 • 8:45:38pm

I think someone is going to need to hunt down video of Kimmel’s monologue tonight

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Jay C  Feb 1, 2018 • 8:47:32pm

re: #280 FormerDirtDart

Questionable?
The high level of advanced technology employed is literally staggering

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Well, I think something about “Mad Mike’s” homemade space program is going to end up being proved flat.
Either the rocket, Mike, or (probably) both……

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 1, 2018 • 8:47:41pm

re: #287 FormerDirtDart

I think someone is going to need to hunt down video of Kimmel’s monologue tonight

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Kimmel and Colbert are a great tag team taking on President Putinpuppet!

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JordanRules  Feb 1, 2018 • 8:49:01pm

I’m angry and sad. Really angry and really sad. *wipes eyes*

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JordanRules  Feb 1, 2018 • 8:50:43pm

re: #289 Joe Bacon 🌹

Yes. I like both approaches and we need all the counter messaging we can get, especially in these traditional spaces.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 1, 2018 • 8:50:43pm

re: #288 Jay C

Well, I think something about “Mad Mikes’s” homemade space program is going to end up being proved flat.
Either the rocket, Mike, or (probably) both……

I got a feeling Mr. Mike watched this too many times as a kid and he actually thinks he’s Mike Mercury!

Supercar Cartoon Introduction - Trailer - Theme Song - Gerry Anderson

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MsJ  Feb 1, 2018 • 8:51:43pm
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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Feb 1, 2018 • 8:57:08pm

Somehow I had never seen this before:

October 1954:

Convair B-36 Peacemaker makes low pass over Fort Worth neighborhood

How low? According to the notes, trees and TV antennas were damaged.

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ObserverArt  Feb 1, 2018 • 8:57:40pm

This segment of Ari Melber’s The Beat tonight was pretty good. They just got the vidoe up. I thought some might want to see it if the didn’t or can’t.

Iframe

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electrotek  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:01:09pm

Good riddance, I was in high school when he murdered his daughters in such brutal and barbaric fashion.

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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:03:26pm

re: #296 electrotek

Let the record show that I am against the death penalty.

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retired cynic  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:05:21pm

re: #297 teleskiguy

Let the record show that I am against the death penalty.

I’ll join you. There are times when I am tested, but I would prefer they just rot in jail. Cheaper in the long run, and if there is a mistake, some correction can be made.

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JordanRules  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:05:21pm

re: #296 electrotek

Uggh. That story is gross and makes me more anti death penalty.

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ObserverArt  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:05:49pm

re: #280 FormerDirtDart

Questionable?
The high level of advanced technology employed is literally staggering

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First time I saw the second image. I don’t think stabilizer fins are ideal for mounting other equipment. I don’t know…balance, stability?

Oh hell, he’s not going that far up!

I flew model rockets as a kid in competitions. We built some pretty good performing rockets working with an aerodynamics/astronautics professor.

One look with my limited knowledge I am thinking I wouldn’t fly that thing.

I see a big arc. Up a couple hundred feet and back down. Hard.

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prairiefire  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:09:28pm

re: #300 ObserverArt

That sounds like a ton of fun. All that adrenaline and smoke, what was the main fire power source back then?

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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:10:59pm

The death penalty is most likely on its way out here in Colorado. A jury couldn’t even sentence the Aurora movie theater shooter to death, he fucking shot 82 people, 12 of whom died, including a six year old girl.

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electrotek  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:13:38pm

I’m really sorry guys, I just don’t know how I can oppose the death penalty with cases like that.

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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:16:54pm

re: #303 electrotek

I’m really sorry guys, I just don’t know how I can oppose the death penalty with cases like that.

The death penalty in the United States is racist and costly. The death penalty in Saudi Arabia and North Korea is routine and celebrated. I’m sorry you think the death penalty is a just thing. Keeping these monsters in cages for the rest of their days is a much worse punishment than death, death is escape.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:17:54pm

re: #296 electrotek

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Good riddance, I was in high school when he murdered his daughters in such brutal and barbaric fashion.

In his Texas appeals, his attorneys wrote that Battaglia was “convinced that his trial and conviction were a sham” and that his death sentence was all part of a conspiracy involving “the KKK, child molesters and homosexual lawyers.”
That was their case for “incompetence?” Hell, in Texas that’s mainstream thinking.

I’ll waste no sympathy on this now-deceased garbage, but I remain opposed to the death penalty. Maybe we need a special prison where child killers can serve out their worthless lives. Give it an appropriate name, like Ninth Circle of Hell, with conditions to match.

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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:19:58pm

Old fucking child’s saying: two wrongs don’t make a right.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:21:40pm

re: #303 electrotek

I’m really sorry guys, I just don’t know how I can oppose the death penalty with cases like that.

By asking yourself what exactly it is that society gains by giving that kind of power to the State, especially when you can look around and see the ongoing erosion of democratic norms within our government.

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retired cynic  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:22:11pm

re: #307 goddamnedfrank

By asking yourself exactly what society gains by giving that kind of power to the State, especially when you can look around and see the ongoing erosion of democratic norms in our government.

That’ll do it.

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Bubblehead II  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:23:11pm

Night Lizards

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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:23:19pm

Shiplord Kirel has addressed the solution to “the death penalty” in this country many times. You want it legal. Fine. Conscript ordinary citizens to carry out the sentences, on a random lottery basis. Your number’s drawn? You get to shoot a condemned prisoner in the back of the head with a pistol.

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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:26:49pm

Fuck the death penalty. And fuck the believers in capital punishment. You’re a fucking barbarian if you believe in capital punishment.

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ObserverArt  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:26:54pm

re: #301 prairiefire

That sounds like a ton of fun. All that adrenaline and smoke, what was the mail power source back then?

We used the Estes, Century and Flight Systems black powder “motors” that were available back then. It was the late ‘69 and early ’70s. A little wire ignitor (match tip) shoved up the nozzle and then hooked to a battery with a button to send the power to igniter and “whoosh.”

The competitions were things like altitude achieved with a certain class of motor. Parachute duration..get the rocket up the highest with the largest parachute possible and time it coming back down, again on a class of motor. Egg Launch. You had to build a rocket that was as aerodynamic as possible with a chamber to hold an egg. The person to get the egg the highest and back down unbroken wins. Boost glider. A rocket engine pod got a glider up and ejected then you timed the glider return. Longest flight won.

Also scale modeling of rockets based on real NASA, Army and other weather and sounding rockets. I was good at that.

It was a blast. I always liked modeling. And to learn tricks from the professor to make a couple Ohio rocket clubs good enough to get into national events was a good lesson.

Got to go to Houston to the NASA Manned Space Center, and to the Aberdeen Army/Military Proving Grounds in Maryland for the National finals events. Good times.

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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:30:54pm

These fucking states that are struggling to obtain poison for their capital punishments. It’s absurd. Use bullets, you fucking momos!

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JordanRules  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:33:04pm

Anybody familiar with ATL metro area recognize this building?
When it popped up on the timeline it seemed so familiar but damnet I can’t place it and I lived in Atlanta for over 5 years. Google search yielded nothing.

Oddly curious.

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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:33:39pm

Bullets to the cranium kill people *snaps fingers* just like that! I don’t think that is against the Constitution (cruel and unusual punishment).

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:35:46pm

re: #310 teleskiguy

Shiplord Kirel has addressed the solution to “the death penalty” in this country many times. You want it legal. Fine. Conscript ordinary citizens to carry out the sentences, on a random lottery basis. Your number’s drawn? You get to shoot a condemned prisoner in the back of the head with a pistol.

Many thanks. I also favor my guillotine proposal, if only because we could get more for the TV rights. Otoh, we might make it a mandatory PSA so the voters can see the good work their elected representatives have caused to be done.

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retired cynic  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:37:33pm

re: #316 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

re: #315 teleskiguy

Unfortunately, there are ghouls who would enjoy it. Our history shows us that.

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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:40:08pm

re: #316 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

The guillotine lanyard. Yes, Shiplord Kirel, I remember that. Because it’s a good, logical idea. That will never be taken seriously in our lifetimes.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:40:41pm
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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:41:03pm

re: #313 teleskiguy

These fucking states that are struggling to obtain poison for their capital punishments. It’s absurd. Use bullets, you fucking momos!

“Lethal injection” has always creeped the hell out of me. It is an obvious attempt to assuage guilt by trying to sanitize the process, as grotesque as it is hopeless. With the bullet or guillotine methods, the judge and jury should also be provided with hazmat suits, mops, towels and plenty of detergent and bleach for the cleanup. There is no reason for anyone else to have to do it.

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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:42:51pm

I got a downding! LGF user Frenchy thinks that the death penalty is awesome!!!

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Frenchy  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:44:40pm

re: #321 teleskiguy

No, I too oppose the death penalty. I just think you’re a dickhead.

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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:46:18pm

re: #322 Frenchy

No, I too oppose the death penalty. I just think you’re a dickhead.

I’m a psycho!

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TedStriker  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:48:20pm

re: #323 teleskiguy

I’m a psycho!

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I picked the wrong week to stop sni…aw, fuck it.

///

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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:52:39pm

I shant never forget that I am a dick to a handful of Lizards.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:53:58pm

re: #325 teleskiguy

I shant never forget that I am a dick to a handful of Lizards.

oh dog

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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:55:07pm

I am sorry. Perhaps some annoying music may assuage your hatred.

Butthole Surfers - Fast

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sagehen  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:55:24pm

re: #303 electrotek

I’m really sorry guys, I just don’t know how I can oppose the death penalty with cases like that.

Because The Innocence Project has proved that, at a minimum, 2% of the people on death row were innocent. (as in, proved by DNA. Positively didn’t do what they were convicted of). Possibly as many as 4%; the only cases TIP even looks at is if biological evidence were a major part of the prosecution’s case, and said evidence has been preserved well enough to be suitable for more detailed/accurate testing.

The only way to be sure we don’t execute innocent people… is to not execute anyone.

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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2018 • 9:59:24pm

re: #326 Stanley Sea

oh dog

Giphy

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Scout  Feb 1, 2018 • 10:01:59pm

It’s always possible to make a point without being vicious or vindictive.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 1, 2018 • 10:02:17pm
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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2018 • 10:04:24pm

re: #330 Scout

It’s always possible to make a point without being vicious or vindictive.

Please let me know how I’m being vicious and vindictive, so I won’t do it again. I’m sorry I was vicious and vindictive. Please let me know how I’m such an asshole. I think it would help me not be such an asshole.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 1, 2018 • 10:05:26pm

re: #331 Stanley Sea

Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers return to Gainesville, Florida where it all started, to play their first hometown show in 13 years. The band performs songs from their three-decade career, including rarely played gems, influential covers, and songs from Petty’s recent solo album, Highway Companion. Stevie Nicks joins on stage for several songs
SHOW MORE

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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2018 • 10:10:33pm

Yeah, fuck the internet. It’s all a fucking echo chamber.

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makeitstop  Feb 1, 2018 • 10:17:22pm

re: #288 Jay C

Well, I think something about “Mad Mike’s” homemade space program is going to end up being proved flat.
Either the rocket, Mike, or (probably) both……

He will prove conclusively that the earth is…hard.

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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2018 • 10:26:24pm

Yeesh! Weird downdings and negativity.

Just fucking say it. “I support the death penalty.” And tell us why. And tell us whether or not you’d participate in said executions. Just fucking say it.

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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2018 • 10:52:23pm

A portion of alt-right shitheads and a sizable portion of the white supremacist internet want us all dead. Keep that in mind. These fuckers are plotting for the death of all of us good people. If they could, they’d shoot all of us in the head with their pistols and move on. That scenario is slowly happening.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 2, 2018 • 2:08:59am

re: #266 JordanRules

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Wasn’t doing a good enough job destroying the institution she was appointed to serve. ///

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William Lewis  Feb 2, 2018 • 4:37:16am

re: #294 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Somehow I had never seen this before:

October 1954:

[Embedded content]

Video

How low? According to the notes, trees and TV antennas were damaged.

Googled an article on it and saw this:

Thad was killed in a crash in the early 60’s while training in C-123’s in Florida. The training was preparing him for duty in Viet Nam, defoliation, I think they called it. In the middle of a low altitude turn he lost an engine and went down.

Now that was a waste of a good pilot.


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