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goddamnedfrank  Feb 5, 2018 • 6:59:42pm
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Belafon  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:07:42pm

re: #1 goddamnedfrank

Conspiracy theory: How much money did Russia pump into Wall Street and are pulling out right now?

Yes, it requires a lot of tinfoil.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:09:21pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:09:28pm
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Charles Johnson  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:10:36pm
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Charles Johnson  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:12:06pm

Twitter is messing with the format of embedded tweets tonight.

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Unshaken Defiance  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:12:29pm

Syria opposition slams Idlib ‘onslaught’ amid new chlorine gas attack claims

The hell brought to bear on Obama was something to see when Syria crossed that line. Now? NUTHIN

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Kragar  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:12:36pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:12:41pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

Of course they’re worried he’ll lie. These are intelligent, highly paid professionals who know their client is a reckless malignant narcissist with lots of money.


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Do we really know that Trump actually has lots of money? Or even a positive net worth?

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Skip Intro  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:13:40pm

re: #2 Belafon

Conspiracy theory: How much money did Russia pump into Wall Street and are pulling out right now?

Yes, it requires a lot of tinfoil.

More to do with this, I think.

“If the program Trump laid out in his address is enacted, the annual budget deficit will be closer to $1.5 trillion than the $1.0 trillion many are projecting every year through at least the next 10 years.” - Forbes

Annual deficit of $1.5 trillion!

Trump and the GOP own this 100%.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:13:42pm

And of course Trump will lie under oath. He cannot distinguish truth from fantasy.

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Skip Intro  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:14:56pm

re: #9 Hecuba’s daughter

All we know is that Trump lies about everything.

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garzooma  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:16:08pm

His own lawyers said that they met with him in pairs to keep him from lying to them. They testified to this in a deposition. Under oath.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:16:11pm

re: #11 Hecuba’s daughter

And of course Trump will lie under oath. He cannot distinguish truth from fantasy.

re: #12 Skip Intro

All we know is that Trump lies about everything.

He has always lied, and never had to face any consequences from lying. So why shouldn’t he continue to lie?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:16:25pm

re: #10 Skip Intro

The press will give those “Red Ink Borrow And Spend” Republicans and once again attack the “Tax and Spend” Democrats.

For the life of me I cannot understand why even one single Democrat turn the tables and go after “Borrow and Spend Republicans” or “Red Ink Republicans”.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:16:31pm

Trump is allergic to the truth so Mueller won’t have to do much to catch him lying. What happens if Trump defies Mueller’s subpoena? I can see him doing that.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:18:19pm

And now Bannon will defy the Congressional subpoena.

I got a feeling Trump is going to pardon him and the fucking Republicans will give him a pass!

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SteelPH  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:18:47pm

re: #16 Patricia Kayden

Trump is allergic to the truth so Mueller won’t have to do much to catch him lying. What happens if Trump defies Mueller’s subpoena? I can see him doing that.

On the other hand, if his handlers are telling him not to do something, chances are he’s gonna do it.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:19:23pm

28 years ago today

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KGxvi  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:20:27pm

re: #9 Hecuba’s daughter

Do we really know that Trump actually has lots of money? Or even a positive net worth?

If they’re worried he’d lie, they should be pushing for an informal interview rather than grand jury testimony (which is what a subpoena means). Testifying before a grand jury means you don’t get your lawyer in the room, and you’re under oath. That’s the absolute worst case scenario for Team Trump. At least in an interview, they can try and get in the room and object or kick him under the table while holding up five fingers to remind him to take the Fifth.

As for his net worth… he is definitely not liquid and probably never has been. Most of his net worth is tied up in the Trump Organization, which at its core, is a landlord/property management company. I also read reporting a while back that the main way Trump was making money was by licensing his name - basically people would pay him to put his name on the building, even though he had nothing to do with it. It’s entirely possible that the property owned by the Trump Organization is heavily leveraged (wouldn’t surprise me given Trump’s general approach to everything) and that it’s underwater in the sense that it owes more than it has in the bank. And of course, there’s rumors that most US and European banks wouldn’t touch his businesses, so he had to go to… (dun dun dun)… Russian banks to get financing.

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sauceruney  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:20:45pm

re: #8 Kragar

That looks amazing!

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SteelPH  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:21:29pm

Because let’s face it, Trump really is that fucking stupid.

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KGxvi  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:21:39pm

re: #11 Hecuba’s daughter

And of course Trump will lie under oath. He cannot distinguish truth from fantasy.

Interesting question: if you don’t believe you’re lying, is it really a lie?

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:22:26pm
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Skip Intro  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:22:44pm

re: #22 SteelPH

Because let’s face it, Trump really is that fucking stupid.

As long as the GOP protects him he has nothing to worry about, no matter what he does.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:23:46pm

re: #24 FormerDirtDart

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Karma.

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KGxvi  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:23:51pm

re: #15 Joe Bacon 🌹

The press will give those “Red Ink Borrow And Spend” Republicans and once again attack the “Tax and Spend” Democrats.

For the life of me I cannot understand why even one single Democrat turn the tables and go after “Borrow and Spend Republicans” or “Red Ink Republicans”.

One of the first things that started moving me away from the GOP was recognizing that they never really wanted to cut spending. I remember having a conversation with my dad at the time and told him, “one party is tax and spend, one is borrow and spend, I’d at least rather pay for it as we go rather than down the road.”

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Charles Johnson  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:23:53pm

That new “Cloverfield” movie on Netflix? Just OK. Watchable, but not memorable.

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Belafon  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:23:59pm

re: #25 Skip Intro

As long as the GOP protects him he has nothing to worry about, no matter what he does.

As long as they stay in power…

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Skip Intro  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:25:16pm

re: #23 KGxvi

Interesting question: if you don’t believe you’re lying, is it really a lie?

Well yeah. Maybe Trump’s going for the diminished capacity defense.

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KGxvi  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:25:33pm

Jesus, I’m watching MSNBC and they’re showing Nunes on Fox and IdiotsFriends… I can’t believe someone can be that dumb.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:25:46pm

re: #17 Joe Bacon 🌹

And now Bannon will defy the Congressional subpoena.

I got a feeling Trump is going to pardon him and the fucking Republicans will give him a pass!

Let him. Accepting a pardon is stipulating to the crimes pardoned, and waives V Amendment protections against testifying about them.

Moreover, a pardon does not excuse crimes not noted in the pardon.

Bannon is screwed either way.

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Skip Intro  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:26:46pm

re: #29 Belafon

So that’s about another year. Wonderful.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:28:31pm

Zedushka & I are hooked on “The Crown”

My Blu-Ray device mysteriously lost its Internet connection so I can’t get to my Amazon Prime streaming account. Xfinity (my internet provider) doesn’t include Amazon in its apps.

Zedushka got talked into ATT broadband but promptly forgot the password he made up.

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Skip Intro  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:34:47pm

re: #32 Anymouse 🌹

Trump won’t pardon him when claiming Executive privilege for Bannon provides complete protection. I’m surprised that Trump hasn’t claimed that for himself in not testifying to Muller.

Still early days yet, I guess.

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dangerman  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:37:45pm

re: #35 Skip Intro

Trump won’t pardon him when claiming Executive privilege for Bannon provides complete protection. I’m surprised that Trump hasn’t claimed that for himself in not testifying to Muller.

Still early days yet, I guess.

The topics of a lot of the questioning precedes his being president

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:39:21pm

re: #28 Charles Johnson

That new “Cloverfield” movie on Netflix? Just OK. Watchable, but not memorable.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:40:02pm

Here we go. Even if it blows up on the pad, as did many of von Braun’s rockets, they will try again.

Facebook Post

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:40:17pm

re: #31 KGxvi

Jesus, I’m watching MSNBC and they’re showing Nunes on Fox and IdiotsFriends… I can’t believe someone can be that dumb.

He’s a Republican. To date, none of them have paid a price for being dumb or treasonous. After all, their supporters are even dumber than they — as well as racist and ammosexual.

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retired cynic  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:40:54pm

Interesting note:

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:42:46pm

re: #40 retired cynic

Interesting note:

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I said all along that Franken was the victim of Roger Stone’s ratfucking.

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Skip Intro  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:43:44pm

re: #36 dangerman

“Bannon Refuses to Testify About Trump, Citing ‘Novel’ Definition of Executive Privilege”

nymag.com

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scottslemmons  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:45:11pm

re: #6 Charles Johnson

Twitter is messing with the format of embedded tweets tonight.

It makes embeds a lot less useful, too. I assume they’re trying to pump up their hits by forcing everyone to go to Twitter to retweet stuff. :/

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:46:27pm

re: #40 retired cynic
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Interesting note:

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Except given the type of accusation, women may not feel the need to come forward. These were unwanted but not life changing assaults. Why bother repeating a tale that he grabbed your buttocks in public when the accusations against others are far more dreadful. Think of Nassar and the damage he inflicted on hundreds of girls. And we are waiting to see what arises from the Steve Wynn charges.

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retired cynic  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:47:04pm

re: #42 Skip Intro

“Bannon Refuses to Testify About Trump, Citing ‘Novel’ Definition of Executive Privilege”

nymag.com

B.F.D. Part and parcel of the whole criminal enterprise.

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IngisKahn  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:49:38pm

re: #38 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Here we go. Even if it blows up on the pad, as did many of von Braun’s rockets, they will try again.

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I think it’s in the bag till at least separation - then all bets are off. So excited to see it in person.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:49:42pm

I’m just glad the Falcon Heavy was designed and brought to flight status before Elon Musk went batshit crazy.
Please don’t tell him that a flamethrower won’t work on Mars.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:50:44pm

re: #44 Hecuba’s daughter

e

Except given the type of accusation, women may not feel the need to come forward. These were unwanted but not life changing assaults. Why bother repeating a tale that he grabbed your buttocks in public when the accusations against others are far more dreadful. Think of Nassar and the damage he inflicted on hundreds of girls. And we are waiting to see what arises from the Steve Wynn charges.

And if anything arises out of allegations against Mr. Wynn, wait for the FOX News Channel Chyron if they report on him:

Steve Winn (D)-Party Finance Chair

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Belafon  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:51:18pm

re: #47 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

I’m just glad the Falcon Heavy was designed and brought to flight status before Elon Musk went batshit crazy.
Please don’t tell him that a flamethrower won’t work on Mars.

He’s the definition of eccentric.

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Skip Intro  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:51:41pm

re: #45 retired cynic

But a criminal enterprise with the full support of the US Dept. of Justice.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:51:58pm

re: #49 Belafon

He’s the definition of eccentric.

Eccentric: The word used for “crazy” when you have enough money.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:55:24pm

I should probably get my shot, huh?

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BlueGrl21  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:56:18pm

Was reading an article today about Melania Trump. It referred to her as FLOTUS.

Let me be very clear about this.

I miss President Obama deeply. So do all serious people in the United States worth listening to. I miss Bill Clinton, I even miss George HW. They can all be POTUS. I’m ok with that.

But there is one FLOTUS. Her name is Michelle Obama. Period.

Onward.

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retired cynic  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:57:49pm

re: #53 BlueGrl21

I love Hillary, but you are right.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:58:50pm
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BlueGrl21  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:58:57pm

re: #51 Anymouse 🌹

Eccentric: The word used for “crazy” when you have enough money.

I prefer “my brain is delicately wired.”

SCIENTIFICALLY crazy. :)

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Belafon  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:59:16pm

re: #52 FormerDirtDart

We were talking about that at the gym, that people are ending up with septic shock from complications due to the flu.

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plansbandc  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:59:44pm

re: #52 FormerDirtDart

Just terrible. This flu is terrifying.

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IngisKahn  Feb 5, 2018 • 7:59:46pm
I’m just glad the Falcon Heavy was designed and brought to flight status before Elon Musk went batshit crazy.
Please don’t tell him that a flamethrower won’t work on Mars.

Hey, the “flamethrower” worked. He raised $10 million.

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BlueGrl21  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:01:02pm

re: #57 Belafon

We were talking about that at the gym, that people are ending up with septic shock from complications due to the flu.

I’ve got it right now. I am 45 years old. I have genuinely never been this sick.

Back to bed.

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Belafon  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:01:47pm

re: #51 Anymouse 🌹

Eccentric: The word used for “crazy” when you have enough money.

Maybe Democrats can use that for a campaign slogan: “The only influence money should be able to buy you is the right to be called eccentric.”

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danarchy  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:02:13pm

re: #47 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

I’m just glad the Falcon Heavy was designed and brought to flight status before Elon Musk went batshit crazy.
Please don’t tell him that a flamethrower won’t work on Mars.

This would be a pretty trivial engineering challenge for Elon. Easy solution is just to have the flame thrower carry its own oxygen supply. Musk would probably develop a new pre-oxygenated fuel, or some novel fuel that reacts with CO2 instead.

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retired cynic  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:03:15pm

Nancy LeTourneau at Washington Monthly has a column wondering about The Curious Case of Trey Goudy’s Retirement, wondering if perhaps the likelihood of Nunes “colluding” with the White House in preparing the memo isn’t what set off the sudden “get the heck out of Dodge.”

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:08:37pm
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stpaulbear  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:09:23pm

re: #55 Charles Johnson

I bet they’re not using the song ‘Mongoloid’.

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Unshaken Defiance  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:10:41pm

re: #47 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

I think he trolls the media.

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teleskiguy  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:11:06pm

Some decidedly non-commercial music from 36 years ago.

Punch Line

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Belafon  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:11:56pm

re: #64 FormerDirtDart

Are they going for the “I can’t be guilty because her husband was a lousy lover” defense?

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:14:32pm

re: #55 Charles Johnson

Well, concerning Devo, and aware you are a far more famous musician than I am:

Musician is still a job. “Staying pure to the genre” and “rejecting commercialism” seems to me to be more the complaints of purists who listen to music or view artworks. To those producers, “staying pure” doesn’t pay the rent or put food on the table.

No one asks an architect who designs buildings or bridges to “stay pure” to their art if they can make more money at it, so why the special standard for musicians?

[back to your regularly scheduled LGF]

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Unshaken Defiance  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:14:54pm

re: #47 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Who will bet me Musk has a plan to get that car back within ten years? The stakes? One year subscription here. Heh I need some help with orbital math. When might that car come back by conveniently by way of required delta V?

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teleskiguy  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:16:41pm

11 months ago. Me.

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stpaulbear  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:19:32pm

re: #58 plansbandc

Just terrible. This flu is terrifying.

We just had a get-together for my work division - 280 people from all over the state in one conference room. There was some worry that a lot of people might wind up sick after the event. Haven’t heard of anyone coming down with the flu yet, although it seems like everyone in the office has a cold this winter.

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IngisKahn  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:21:03pm

re: #70 Unshaken Defiance

Who will bet me Musk has a plan to get that car back within ten years? The stakes? One year subscription here. Heh I need some help with orbital math. When might that car come back by conveniently by way of required delta V?

I don’t see how that would be possible. The car has no delta-V.

Orbit of the Tesla Roadster to be launched by SpaceX’s Falcon Heavy

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Unshaken Defiance  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:21:27pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:23:01pm

re: #73 IngisKahn

So in every x many orbits, the car comes back by earth, and another craft could boost to it. Yup… Just maybe.

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Skip Intro  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:28:02pm

Big sell off in Asia tonight. Dow futures continue to drop, indicate an opening tomorrow of 23200.

Trump’s going to set another record tomorrow.

MAGA!

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:29:49pm

re: #73 IngisKahn

I don’t see how that would be possible. The car has no delta-V.

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Video

So he’s not even attempting a transfer orbit or slingshot, he’s just turning it into an Earth-Mars Trojan?

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:29:52pm

re: #70 Unshaken Defiance

Who will bet me Musk has a plan to get that car back within ten years? The stakes? One year subscription here. Heh I need some help with orbital math. When might that car come by conveniently by way of required delta V?

Is the car supposed to be in orbit by itself, or will it be contained within something? If the former, there won’t be much of a car to recover after ten years.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:30:41pm

re: #76 Skip Intro

Big sell off in Asia tonight. Dow futures continue to drop, indicate an opening tomorrow of 23200.

There’s a roller coaster GIF popular among Bitcoiners that’s also suitable now for the stock market. I need to dig it out.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:31:22pm

re: #69 Anymouse 🌹

Well, concerning Devo, and aware you are a far more famous musician than I am:

Musician is still a job. “Staying pure to the genre” and “rejecting commercialism” seems to me to be more the complaints of purists who listen to music or view artworks. To those producers, “staying pure” doesn’t pay the rent or put food on the table.

No one asks an architect who designs buildings or bridges to “stay pure” to their art if they can make more money at it, so why the special standard for musicians?

[back to your regularly scheduled LGF]

That wasn’t intended to bash them for making money - I have nothing against Mark Mothersbaugh and the other Devo members profiting from their work. I just think it’s sad to see how a group whose whole career was based around subversiveness has been so totally co-opted by the corporate culture of America.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:33:52pm

re: #80 Charles Johnson

That wasn’t intended to bash them for making money - I have nothing against Mark Mothersbaugh and the other Devo members profiting from their work. I just think it’s sad to see how a group whose whole career was based around subversiveness has been so totally co-opted by the corporate culture of America.

At least they haven’t gone full Johnny Rotten.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:37:21pm
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plansbandc  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:38:25pm

So I wonder if getting the flu is somehow a moral failing in the Republican world.

I hate living in Trumpland.

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Scout  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:39:33pm

re: #76 Skip Intro

Big sell off in Asia tonight. Dow futures continue to drop, indicate an opening tomorrow of 23200.

Trump’s going to set another record tomorrow.

MAGA!

As I type this, the Nikkei 225 is down 6.56%. (1:39 p.m. Tuesday.)

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wheat-dogg  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:40:56pm

re: #84 Scout

As I type this, the Nikkei 225 is down 6.56%. (1:39 p.m. Tuesday.)

Not just Bitcoin
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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:41:12pm

Trump’s lawyers don’t want him to answer questions under oath? Damn. I’m so old, I remember when Hillary gladly testified for 11 straight hours and didn’t break a sweat (unlike Trey Gowdy).

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teleskiguy  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:41:27pm
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Jay C  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:41:39pm

re: #83 plansbandc

So I wonder if getting the flu is somehow a moral failing in the Republican world.

I hate living in Trumpland.

Getting the flu isn’t the “moral failing”, expecting that the expenses shouldn’t have to bankrupt you IS.

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stpaulbear  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:41:48pm

re: #84 Scout

As I type this, the Nikkei 225 is down 6.56%. (1:39 p.m. Tuesday.)

I didn’t really want to travel after I retire anyways.
/

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IngisKahn  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:42:16pm

re: #77 goddamnedfrank

So he’s not even attempting a transfer orbit or slingshot, he’s just turning it into an Earth-Mars Trojan?

No, that’s a transfer orbit. It’s just launched at the wrong time.

re: #78 Anymouse 🌹

Is the car supposed to be in orbit by itself, or will it be contained within something? If the former, there won’t be much of a car to recover after ten years.

It’s just a Tesla with a space suit guy driving it sitting inside the fairing. :)
Image: 26872202_165908934038534_2813938748432056320_n.jpg

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:43:21pm

I’m keeping my eye on the VIX, it just jumped up to 37.32. That works out to roughly a 1,200 point drop in the Dow when it opens.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:44:27pm

re: #80 Charles Johnson

That wasn’t intended to bash them for making money - I have nothing against Mark Mothersbaugh and the other Devo members profiting from their work. I just think it’s sad to see how a group whose whole career was based around subversiveness has been so totally co-opted by the corporate culture of America.

TBH, the same thing has happened to a lot of the edgy groups of the ’60s. I mean, the CSI themes are Who songs, and the Stones music has been used in mainstream commercials. It’s not so much a sell-out but clever marketing to pull in the right demographic.

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Unshaken Defiance  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:46:29pm

..

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teleskiguy  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:48:00pm

I know where I’m going on Wednesday.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:52:59pm

re: #80 Charles Johnson

That wasn’t intended to bash them for making money - I have nothing against Mark Mothersbaugh and the other Devo members profiting from their work. I just think it’s sad to see how a group whose whole career was based around subversiveness has been so totally co-opted by the corporate culture of America.

Fair enough.

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TedStriker  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:53:00pm

re: #55 Charles Johnson

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re: #69 Anymouse 🌹

Well, concerning Devo, and aware you are a far more famous musician than I am:

Musician is still a job. “Staying pure to the genre” and “rejecting commercialism” seems to me to be more the complaints of purists who listen to music or view artworks. To those producers, “staying pure” doesn’t pay the rent or put food on the table.

No one asks an architect who designs buildings or bridges to “stay pure” to their art if they can make more money at it, so why the special standard for musicians?

[back to your regularly scheduled LGF]

re: #80 Charles Johnson

That wasn’t intended to bash them for making money - I have nothing against Mark Mothersbaugh and the other Devo members profiting from their work. I just think it’s sad to see how a group whose whole career was based around subversiveness has been so totally co-opted by the corporate culture of America.

Mark and Bob Mothersbaugh went on to do soundtrack work, including for Rugrats and The Wild Thornberrys, so there you are; they’re not quite as lauded and feted for that as, say, Danny Elfman, but everybody knows something they’ve done outside of Devo.

Damnit, now I can’t get the Rugrats theme out of mah head now…

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Frenchy  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:53:03pm

re: #15 Joe Bacon 🌹

I prefer “Don’t Tax and Spend.”

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SteelPH  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:53:17pm

re: #83 plansbandc

So I wonder if getting the flu is somehow a moral failing in the Republican world.

I hate living in Trumpland.

Yes. It’s your fault for not being born rich.
//

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:53:24pm

I thought of creating my own cryptocurrency but I can’t decide on a name.

Kickedinthecoin or Shottothecoin?

//

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majii  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:53:49pm

re: #80 Charles Johnson
The O’Jays:
“For the love of money
People will steal from their mother
For the love of money
People will rob their own brother
For the love of money
People can’t even walk the street
Because they never know who in the world they’re gonna beat
For that lean, mean, mean green
Almighty dollar, money”

“For the love of money
People will lie, Lord, they will cheat
For the love of money
People don’t care who they hurt or beat
For the love of money
A woman will sell her precious body
For a small piece of paper it carries a lot of weight
Call it lean, mean, mean green…”

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TedStriker  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:54:08pm

re: #92 wheat-dogg

TBH, the same thing has happened to a lot of the edgy groups of the ’60s. I mean, the CSI themes are Who songs, and the Stones music has been used in mainstream commercials. It’s not so much a sell-out but clever marketing to pull in the right demographic.

Because everyone knows their songs, that’s why.

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SteelPH  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:54:14pm

re: #99 Eclectic Cyborg

I thought of creating my own cryptocurrency but I can’t decide on a name.

Kickedinthecoin or Shottothecoin?

Shitcoin.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:54:56pm

re: #89 stpaulbear

I didn’t really want to travel after I retire anyways.
/

Retirement isn’t in the Bible! Why do lib-tarts seem to think society owes them anything?

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:55:48pm

re: #99 Eclectic Cyborg

I thought of creating my own cryptocurrency but I can’t decide on a name.

Kickedinthecoin or Shottothecoin?

//

Pickedfromyourpocket.

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retired cynic  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:56:30pm

re: #100 majii

The always-apropos Cabaret song: Money, money, money, money….

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Jay C  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:56:48pm

re: #99 Eclectic Cyborg

I thought of creating my own cryptocurrency but I can’t decide on a name.

Kickedinthecoin or Shottothecoin?

//

Buttcoin.

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SteelPH  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:56:57pm

re: #104 Anymouse 🌹

Pickedfromyourpocket.

Scamcoin

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:58:17pm

re: #92 wheat-dogg

TBH, the same thing has happened to a lot of the edgy groups of the ’60s. I mean, the CSI themes are Who songs, and the Stones music has been used in mainstream commercials. It’s not so much a sell-out but clever marketing to pull in the right demographic.

I know I’m getting old when I walk through a grocery store and hear the B-52s on the loudspeakers.

What happened to the old people music?

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TedStriker  Feb 5, 2018 • 8:59:16pm

re: #108 Anymouse 🌹

I know I’m getting old when I walk through a grocery store and hear the B-52s on the loudspeakers.

What happened to the old people music?

You looking for some champagne music?

/

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retired cynic  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:00:08pm

re: #109 TedStriker

You looking for some champagne music?

NO

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TedStriker  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:01:10pm

re: #110 retired cynic

NO

Somebody posted a Lawrence Welk clip a week or two ago…you want I should find that?

*ducks*

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retired cynic  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:01:35pm

re: #111 TedStriker

Somebody posted a Lawrence Welk clip a week or two ago…you want I should find that?

*ducks*

NO

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Unshaken Defiance  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:02:18pm

Cryptocoin?

TrumpCoin

Tarnishes everything it touches

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SteelPH  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:02:51pm

re: #113 Unshaken Defiance

Cryptocoin?

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Would permanently tank immediately upon reveal.

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majii  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:03:40pm

re: #108 Anymouse 🌹

“What happened to the old people music?”

Why are you of all people talking about “old people” music? You’re still wet behind the ears, child! I love Bruno Mars, Bing Crosby, Hall and Oates, Lynyrd Skynyrd, and the Rolling Stones, and I’m a long-time Patsy Cline fan. Boy, could that girl sing.

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Unshaken Defiance  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:05:03pm

re: #114 SteelPH

Would permanently tank immediately upon reveal.

Ebay $.99 for real.

Hahahaha

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:05:52pm

re: #111 TedStriker

Somebody posted a Lawrence Welk clip a week or two ago…you want I should find that?

*ducks*

Sure! I remember when Larry and The Gang did a tribute to the Velvet Underground!

Lawrence Welk Meets Velvet Underground

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majii  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:06:24pm

re: #109 TedStriker

“You looking for some champagne music?

/”

Please, don’t remind me of Lawrence Welk. My parents used to watch that every week. At that time, there was only one really good channel we could get on our TV, and that was with the antenna my dad had set up. I’ll never forget that antenna.

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piratedan  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:10:35pm

re: #55 Charles Johnson

considering the state of the uniom and all, I think that this song of theirs is especially apropos… in regards to the underlying mood of the nation.

Devo - “Through Being Cool”

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Pineapple Pizzagate  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:10:44pm

re: #109 TedStriker

You looking for some champagne music?

/

The Lawrence Welk Show: Hindustan

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Single-handed sailor  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:11:30pm

Nikkei down over 7% just a few minutes ago.

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BeachDem  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:16:58pm

OK, since we’re in the trivia section of the evening, here’s my latest “this is really unimportant but it really pisses me off” thing.

The new Peter Rabbit movie. Why and WTF. Most of the reviews have been along the lines of this one:

Tosses out the very sentiments that make Beatrix Potter’s work so beloved and so enduring in favor of the sullen bratty championing of cruelty and disenchantment. Nihilistic money-grubbing garbage.

I LOVE Beatrix Potter. One of the things I proudly checked off my bucket list was visiting her farm in the Lake District. We were even there when they were shooting the live action segments for the BBC animated series.

imdb.com

Everything about her and her creations was fabulous, and she and her estate were supposedly very protective of her work (never allowed Disney to use her stuff.)

This new “thing” looks like a mean-spirited abomination (supposedly, Peter is an asshole and Mr. McGregor is the nicest person in the movie.) Ugh.

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Scout  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:18:18pm

re: #121 Single-handed sailor

Nikkei down over 7% just a few minutes ago.

The TSE closes in 57 minutes.

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Jason Munro  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:18:55pm

re: #91 Joe Bacon 🌹

I used to do software development for a major exchange operator, equities and options. The higher the VIX, the more money we made (“maker/taker pricing”). Volatility == more trading == more fees. I think the price correction is a good thing - not that I want anyone to take a financial hit on their investments. Market value seems to have outpaced real value IMO (by a lot).

So much of what we see in market activity is driven by speculation and not underlying value.

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majii  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:19:28pm

re: #122 BeachDem

“This new “thing” looks like a mean-spirited abomination (supposedly, Peter is an asshole and Mr. McGregor is the nicest person in the movie.) Ugh.”

You really need to stop. You almost made me spit on my keyboard because I was laughing so hard.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:20:41pm

My wife took my battle cry “Someone is wrong on the Internet!” and is in a YouTube comment section arguing with a religious wingnut over a True Crime video.

Foolish religious nut seems to think she knows more about the Bible than my atheist wife.

“God never commands killing in the Bible!” “Catholics aren’t real Christians!” “The country only needs to follow the X Commandments” that kind of derp.

I almost feel sorry for the woman my wife is tearing to shreds, except I know how these sorts of things turn out. “You’re possessed by Satan” and move on without ever acknowledging she either hasn’t read the Bible, or is lying about it.

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JordanRules  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:22:43pm
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majii  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:24:44pm

re: #126 Anymouse 🌹

“I almost feel sorry for the woman my wife is tearing to shreds, except I know how these sorts of things turn out. “Your possessed by Satan” and move on without ever acknowledging she either hasn’t read the Bible, or is lying about it.”

I’ve been a Christian for over 50 years, and even I think many who call themselves Christians either haven’t read the Bible or don’t understand what they’ve read. I also think a lot of them depend on others to interpret the Bible for them. They’re definitely not Anne Hutchinsons.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:25:35pm
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goddamnedfrank  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:27:24pm

Honestly we should probably be grateful for this market correction and hope it lasts for a spell. Trump’s ego & sense of immunity from consequences very much owe themselves to the economic engine he inherited from Obama (and chose to take credit for.) The timing of this market selloff was golden in that it probably kept Trump from firing Rosenstein on Friday and may keep him from taking drastic action against Mueller’s investigation right now. Public opinion will now hinge on how Trump and his Administration are perceived to be responding to this, and so far it’s not good.

Janet Yellen might have been able to quell this uncertainty, but her replacement Jerome Powell is facing a tough test in his first week as Fed Chair, and he’s the first non-economist in that position in 40 years. This does not inspire confidence.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:28:12pm

re: #128 majii

Neither my wife nor I bash on Christians as a group, just the ones who seem to know they are righteous and you are not, and claim they can prove it and will tell you so.

She is now manoeuvring the person she is arguing with into justifying child rape because all persons are born sinners.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:33:02pm

re: #129 Anymouse 🌹

I’m so tempted to put his phone number on a phone sex line…

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majii  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:33:26pm

re: #129 Anymouse 🌹

“Sean Hannity Is a F*cking Moron”
“He blamed Obama for the stock market crash today. Yes, seriously.”
thedailybanter.com

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:36:03pm

re: #133 majii

Obama lives rent-free in his head.

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majii  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:37:04pm

re: #131 Anymouse 🌹

“She is now manoeuvring the person she is arguing with into justifying child rape because all persons are born sinners.”

Your wife is a hoot! Please tell her to “Carry on.” She appears to be doing a bang up job of OWNING her opponent. I’m a Christian, and I definitely criticize those who are bastardizing Christianity while calling themselves Christians, and I don’t mind owning up to doing it. Someone has to have the courage to call them out on their BS.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:39:36pm

re: #135 majii

“She is now manoeuvring the person she is arguing with into justifying child rape because all persons are born sinners.”

Your wife is a hoot! Please tell her to “Carry on.” She appears to be doing a bang up job of OWNING her opponent. I’m a Christian, and I definitely criticize those who are bastardizing Christianity while calling themselves Christians, and I don’t mind owning up to doing it. Someone has to have the courage to call them out on their BS.

She says she feels bad about this because it feels like she is beating up someone in a wheelchair. It’s not sporting.

She did tell the person she was going to take a short break while she digested a quote from Calvin, and citations from Hosea and Amos. She said she needed a cigarette because “this is good as sex.” (Hey, what am I? Chopped liver?)

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retired cynic  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:41:29pm

re: #136 Anymouse 🌹

snork

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Single-handed sailor  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:42:16pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:44:43pm

re: #137 retired cynic

snork

She’s back on YouTube. She decided to tackle a different commandment, the one on theft - that’s a blind spot for people who don’t think much. She opened with an argument I’ve dealt with of “suppose you run across plans to disrupt a terrorist plot to blow up schools, do you steal the plans to save the children?”

The person she is arguing with says she would steal the plans.

According to objective morality (and the X Commandments) there is no “out” clause for any of the commandments. Stealing is always wrong, and the Commandments do not have a “defence of another” caveat.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:48:34pm

And there it is. “You just want to sin” is the rejoinder to my wife calling her a moral relativist about the X Commandments.

I’m guessing their discussion is about to end.

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Targetpractice  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:53:29pm

To remind the audience, Nunes also insisted that his “memo” would “prove” abuses of the FISA court by the FBI, something that numerous legal experts have said it doesn’t come close to doing.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:54:15pm

Don’t tear up your tickets! She’s not done! After being knocked down on coveting (capitalism), killing (just war to prevent genocide), and stealing, she’s now coming back on bearing false witness (lying).

My wife just told her she really ought to read her Bible.

This is like watching tiddlywinks using sewer covers.

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jaunte  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:56:27pm

re: #141 Targetpractice

Look at that face. Devin Nunes, the Unhappiest Warrior.

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retired cynic  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:58:33pm

re: #143 jaunte

Look at that face. Devin Nunes, the Unhappiest Warrior.

The lies are being etched into his countenance.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:59:10pm

re: #144 retired cynic

The lies are being etched into his countenance.

And just possibly a subpoena.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:59:34pm

re: #133 majii

“Sean Hannity Is a F*cking Moron”
“He blamed Obama for the stock market crash today. Yes, seriously.”
thedailybanter.com

Damn! Putin must have some primo Kompromat on Lumpy.

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jaunte  Feb 5, 2018 • 9:59:50pm

re: #144 retired cynic

Tolkien was really on to something true in human nature with the Ringwraiths.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:05:21pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:05:52pm

Thread of eighteen tweets:

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DodgerFan1988  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:11:42pm

In other news the sun rises in the east.

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retired cynic  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:12:25pm

re: #149 Anymouse 🌹

Thread of eighteen tweets:

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Very good, and good responses as well.

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freetoken  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:15:31pm
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austin_blue  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:24:52pm

So lemme see if I’ve got this straight:

Drumpf’s lawyers don’t want him to talk to Mueller under oath because he is not capable of telling the truth in sworn testimony.

Q: So you are saying he’s a liar?

A: No! He’s just incapable of telling the truth.

Q: Then he’s a liar.

A: I didn’t say that. He’s just incapable of telling the truth under oath, and we don’t want to have him talking to Mueller under oath.

Okey dokey then. He’s not a liar, but he can’t help but lie.

Glad that’s settled.

We apparently live in Alex Jones’ paradise.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:30:29pm

re: #153 austin_blue

So lemme see if I’ve got this straight:

Drumpf’s lawyers don’t want him to talk to Mueller under oath because he is not capable of telling the truth in sworn testimony.

Q: So you are saying he’s a liar?

A: No! He’s just incapable of telling the truth.

Q: Then he’s a liar.

A: I didn’t say that. He’s just incapable of telling the truth under oath, and we don’t want to have him talking to Mueller under oath.

Okey dokey then. He’s not a liar, but he can’t help but lie.

Glad that’s settled.

We apparently live in Alex Jones’ paradise.

I read somewhere that Trump lies because he has no concept of objective truth. He just says whatever is convenient for him at the time, regardless of it contradicting anything he has said before. He’s either not aware he’s lying or he just doesn’t care. Either way it’s sociopathic.

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austin_blue  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:42:47pm

re: #154 wheat-dogg

I read somewhere that Trump lies because he has no concept of objective truth. He just says whatever is convenient for him at the time, regardless of it contradicting anything he has said before. He’s either not aware he’s lying or he just doesn’t care. Either way it’s sociopathic.

Exactly. It is sociopathic behavior, dead bang. It’s not psychopathic, he’s not crazy. If a fact doesn’t fit his narcissistic worldview, however, it’s simply wrong in his mind. That’s a different kind of kink, but we can’t have a President with that kink. It could get us all killed.

The fucker has got to go.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:47:10pm

re: #155 austin_blue

I finished Fire and Fury a couple of days ago. Trump’s entire staff is sociopathic. Either that, or they are in deep denial of the mess they are in.

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freetoken  Feb 5, 2018 • 10:53:30pm

re: #156 wheat-dogg

And that book only covered the beginning of this Administration.

Wait until more books and articles come out, over time.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:00:54pm

re: #157 freetoken

And that book only covered the beginning of this Administration.

Wait until more books and articles come out, over time.

It will be … fascinating. (Raises one eyebrow, Spock-like)

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:01:44pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:04:45pm

re: #159 goddamnedfrank

taint gremlin

Has he got an AMC down there?

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austin_blue  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:12:26pm

re: #156 wheat-dogg

I finished Fire and Fury a couple of days ago. Trump’s entire staff is sociopathic. Either that, or they are in deep denial of the mess they are in.

I think they are just totally overwhelmed and understaffed for the free-wheeling shit show that the US Government is right now. There is no coherent policy that anyone can point at and say “That’s what we need to accomplish. That’s our Omega.”

EPA is just a joke right right now. Hell, all of the alphabets are disasters right now. The political appointees, what there are of them, are completely ignorant of what the agencies do. Professional staff who have enough time in grade to retire are leaving in droves. Drumpf is gutting the Civil Service, which is a feature, not a bug.

One nice thing. Fucking church lady Kathleen Hartnett White has been killed as the WH climate advisor. I can’t even begin to tell you what a disaster that would have been.

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austin_blue  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:21:06pm

I’m off to bed. I fully expect for Obama to be blamed for the single largest point drop in the Dow’s history.

Because, well, reasons.

I think I took about a $10,000 haircut today on my retirement investments. Ouch.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:22:23pm

Gloria Copeland is back on her anti-vax train again:

Trump Evangelical Adviser Says You Don’t Need Flu Shots When You Have Jesus

“Inoculate yourself with the word of God,” urged Gloria Copeland, who with her husband co-founded the Kenneth Copeland Ministries in Texas.
Both serve on Trump’s evangelical advisory board.
While health officials continue to urge people to get flu shots during a season that has been marked by widespread illness, Copeland told followers that faith in Christ is all that’s really needed.

(more)

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:24:29pm

re: #162 austin_blue

I’m off to bed. I fully expect for Obama to be blamed for the single largest point drop in the Dow’s history.

Because, well, reasons.

I think I took about a $10,000 haircut today on my retirement investments. Ouch.

Hannity already blamed him today.

huffingtonpost.com

On his Fox News radio show on Monday, Hannity said the market drop ― which at its worst saw the Dow industrials plunge by nearly 1,600 points and closing down 1,175 points for the day ― wasn’t the fault of President Donald Trump.

It’s his predecessor that’s to blame.

“Because the Obama economy was so weak all of these years, we had just artificially cheap money,” Hannity said, referring to a Fox News analysis he had seen on the cable network.

(more)

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:27:28pm

I obviously won’t post this with my current number but I happen to have one that has been out of date for 10 years:
Black lives matter….is arming….college students…..to overthrow capitalism.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:33:09pm

re: #165 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Mine… .

LOL: Hillary Clinton is giving free stuff to liberal college professors to attack whites.

Probably some wingnut out there actually believes that.

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Targetpractice  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:37:51pm

re: #159 goddamnedfrank

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Just 2 years ago, we had a man in office who could have handled a market downturn by reassuring the American people in the resilience of our economy and advised us that the worst would pass.

Now we’ve got a mentally dwarf with the impulse control of a child who is going to accuse his enemies of being responsible for undermining his “economic boom,” before going to hide under the bed of his golf club.

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Scout  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:40:11pm

re: #165 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Hillary Clinton is plotting with trans people to begin white genocide.

LOL.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:41:13pm

I got an answer for a question two weeks ago on why the VA cemetery page no longer shows Puerto Rico as part of the United States … it was a BS answer.

Thank you for contacting the VA National Cemetery Administration (NCA). Although the commonwealth of Puerto Rico is recognized as part of the United States, it is still a territory of the United States. Puerto Rico like other territories, such as Guam, America Samoa and the U.S. Virgin Islands, is not part of the Union of the United States. Until Puerto Rico is considered a state by Congress, then the language will continued to be written to reflect it. We hope this information is helpful.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:45:54pm
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FormerDirtDart  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:46:46pm

re: #165 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Isn’t mine a 15 minute segment on every prime time FOX News show for the past year?
The Deep State Is Teaming With Antifa To Overthrow President Trump

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Targetpractice  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:53:51pm

re: #170 goddamnedfrank

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So for those keeping score at home:

- The FBI investigation began Jun ‘16 with Papadopoulos, rather than the insistence that it began in Oct ‘16 with the FISA warrant
- The FBI acknowledged the “bias” of Steele’s information in their FISA warrant application
- Comey did not say that the “dossier” was “unverified and salacious,” but instead that certain items in it were
- McCabe did not testify that the warrants could only be obtained with information from the “dossier”
- Numerous Republicans (including ones involved in the crafting of this “memo”) have stated that it has nothing to do with Mueller’s investigation
- The DOJ was forced to admit in a court filing that Mueller’s investigation is totally lawful

Much like firing Comey, all Trump seems to have done in his effort to make an investigation go away is strengthen it while further eroding his own defense.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:54:24pm

re: #170 goddamnedfrank

So Nunes is going with the “I didn’t read the fine print” defence.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:54:25pm

Not one, but two of the holistic health fan antivaxxers I know are down with the flu. Unfortunately, the 11 year old son of one of them is also sick.
I realize that the vaccine is not overly effective this year for various reasons, but it is a hell of a lot better than nothing.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:55:51pm

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Targetpractice  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:58:20pm

re: #173 Anymouse 🌹

So Nunes is going with the “I didn’t read the fine print” defence.

It’s only plausible for one reason: He never read the bloody thing in the first place. Perhaps that’s the reason Trey’s make a run for the door…

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 5, 2018 • 11:59:43pm

re: #174 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Not one, but two of the holistic health fan antivaxxers I know are down with the flu. Unfortunately, the 11 year old son of one of them is also sick.
I realize that the vaccine is not overly effective this year for various reasons, but it is a hell of a lot better than nothing.

The idea that “the vaccine is not very effective this year” is a rather pernicious framing of flu vaccines, promoted by woo meisters and others to claim a black-or-white fallacy: If the vaccine is not 100% effective, then it’s worthless.

I got the vaccine last November. About ten days ago I came down with what might be considered symptoms of the flu: elevated temperature, loss of appetite, skin hurt, muscles ached, &c.

But all of those were significantly less than a full-blown case of the flu, and only lasted about two days.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Feb 6, 2018 • 12:15:33am

As I mentioned earlier, I had what I thought was a cold, which kept me from spending more than an hour at the women’s march this year.

Since I was totally exhausted after doing ANYTHING for more than a week, and am still not back to par, I’m thinking that what i had was the flu.

I did have the shot, and the case I got was mild enough that I didn’t recognize it at first.

Thank you, immunology.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 6, 2018 • 12:17:53am

Well, my wife got a notification from LiveJournal that a post she made to our blog there was the number one most visited post in the world for the day.

hRwHNgiYDVMjjAo7lhgURRKDavteOvZLIQ22U8s6bXDDZnx/8vQ6/B0eRmGDDItxDr/rTxUPMiKwSJ9wRQWAtkwZxq1RbLWkVQrl+2SQMco6qJSA4DmrIMz/ErvJBbg5HCIPRMyQJXrfOIAO7pxmYAseWIcN/3fNC6WiAtdZGjQ=

That award is given out each day by LiveJournal for the post that is visited and shared most to other Websites. It was promoted across a number of respectable cooking Websites because we have a five thousand member baking group at LiveJournal which follows it.

Maybe I should give up local politics (which doesn’t pay anything) and monetise our over eighteen hidden blog instead.

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Single-handed sailor  Feb 6, 2018 • 12:45:23am

I see some entity bid up stock futures to positive territory. Do I put a sell order on everything tonight or take more lumps tomorrow? That is the question.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Feb 6, 2018 • 12:49:06am

re: #177 Anymouse 🌹

The idea that “the vaccine is not very effective this year” is a rather pernicious framing of flu vaccines, promoted by woo meisters and others to claim a black-or-white fallacy: If the vaccine is not 100% effective, then it’s worthless.

I got the vaccine last November. About ten days ago I came down with what might be considered symptoms of the flu: elevated temperature, loss of appetite, skin hurt, muscles ached, &c.

But all of those were significantly less than a full-blown case of the flu, and only lasted about two days.

I certainly wouldn’t intend anything pernicious about vaccination, though I probably could have phrased it differently. The vaccines never have been 100% effective and this year’s version is apparently less so than usual, though not to the degree often claimed. Of course, feckless media have seized on this, distorted it to sell some ads (including some for woo profiteers), and probably caused more than a few deaths in the process.
It seems likely that the vaccine will actually improve in effectiveness as the epidemic runs its course, since the disease will spread much more quickly among the un-vaccinated and will tend to optimize itself for that population.
I got the shot and I have not gotten the flu. I haven’t had it since 2003, when I nearly died from complications and subsequently resolved never to miss the shot.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 6, 2018 • 12:50:40am
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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Feb 6, 2018 • 12:54:16am

A flu vaccine that was only 50% effective (far less than the current version) could have saved 25 million lives in 1918.

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Teukka  Feb 6, 2018 • 12:55:00am

re: #163 Anymouse 🌹

Gloria Copeland is back on her anti-vax train again:

Trump Evangelical Adviser Says You Don’t Need Flu Shots When You Have Jesus

(more)

*sighs*
It’s almost as if there’s some great conservative cabal which has decided there should be “a culling of the herd” by means of a pandemic on the order of magnitude as the Spanish?
*smh*

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 6, 2018 • 12:58:59am

re: #181 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

I know you don’t mean it that way.

The problem I have is with the phrase “vaccines aren’t 100% effective” creeping into conversation.

Vaccines are never 100% effective. Woo meisters leverage that statement into normal discourse.

While anti-vax nonsense isn’t the same, it’s similar to leveraging the term “alt-right” into public discourse. There is no “alt-right.” They are racists and bigots, and some I assume are Nazis.

So when I see a phrase like “the flu vaccine is not 100% effective this year” (which we hear every year), I respond to that. I would like to see that phrase excised from public discourse in the same way I want to see “alt-right” excised.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Feb 6, 2018 • 1:04:53am

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 6, 2018 • 1:07:21am

re: #186 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

The New York Daily News has some seriously snarky front page headline writers. If there was a Pulitzer for snark, they would be serious contenders.

I’m off to bed. It’s late, I’m tired, and I’m sure y’all can get along without me.

Goodnight, y’all.

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Targetpractice  Feb 6, 2018 • 1:28:52am

re: #182 goddamnedfrank

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Short answer: Never.

Longer answer: He will never apologize because he’ll rationalize it in some way as being equivalent to leaving that information out of the warrant.

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Targetpractice  Feb 6, 2018 • 2:16:37am

So markets from Asia to Europe have seen sell-offs and they’re now projecting a drop of at least 1% from the DJIA today. Atop that, there’s experts saying that this is the start of the much-expected correction after months of overvalued stocks and rosy projections.

That clunk you just heard was all of Donny’s rich buddies shitting bricks.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 6, 2018 • 2:41:40am

re: #189 Targetpractice

So markets from Asia to Europe have seen sell-offs and they’re now projecting a drop of at least 1% from the DJIA today. Atop that, there’s experts saying that this is the start of the much-expected correction after months of overvalued stocks and rosy projections.

That clunk you just heard was all of Donny’s rich buddies shitting bricks.

This market correction also illustrates the fragility of Trump’s position with regards to Iran and North Korea. He can’t engage those regimes without destroying the thing he and his financiers care about most. I expect that if the markets fall much further his approval rating will hit new all time lows, perhaps plummeting to the crazification factor of 27%. Moving to fire Rosenstein would probably have a similar effect.

Furthermore the unemployment rate is basically as low as it can possibly go at the same time that he’s just gutted the solar industry and advances in AI / autonomous driving will start to kick in soon. Corporations are going to take their tax savings and, at best, invest in robots instead of people. Interests rates are going to climb, housing and gas will get more expensive just as the US government revenues fall and its credit rating likely takes another hit or two. Then there’s the prospect of Trump pulling us out of NAFTA entirely and the damage that inflicts on US exports. And all of this would be bad enough if Janet Yellen were still Fed Chair but as of Saturday we have a non-economist Trump crony guiding the economy.

Add it all up and the next few years look likely to be a long ugly grind.

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Targetpractice  Feb 6, 2018 • 2:43:55am

re: #190 goddamnedfrank

This market correction also illustrates the fragility of Trump’s position with regards to Iran and North Korea. He can’t engage those regimes without destroying the thing he and his financiers care about most. I expect that if the markets fall much further his approval rating will hit new all time lows, perhaps plummeting to the crazification factor of 27%. Moving to fire Rosenstein would probably have a similar effect.

Furthermore the unemployment rate is basically as low as it can possibly go at the same time that he’s just gutted the solar industry and advances in AI / autonomous driving will start to kick in soon. Corporations are going to take their tax savings and, at best, invest in robots instead of people. Interests rates are going to climb, housing and gas will get more expensive just as the US government revenues fall and its credit rating likely takes another hit or two. Then there’s the prospect of Trump pulling us out of NAFTA entirely and the damage that inflicts on US exports. And all of this would be bad enough if Janet Yellen were still Fed Chair but as of Saturday we have a non-economist Trump crony guiding the economy.

Add it all up and the next few years look likely to be a long ugly grind.

Hey now, we all know this is Obama’s fault because…because…well, I’m sure he did something to cause it!

//////

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Lupin  Feb 6, 2018 • 3:00:14am

I’m still awaiting a massive drop in the GAFA stocks.

When Uber’s stock tanks (which it will, but when I don’t know), SoftBank ill be in a heap of trouble and there’ll be a panic.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 6, 2018 • 3:41:44am

re: #69 Anymouse 🌹

Well, concerning Devo, and aware you are a far more famous musician than I am:

Musician is still a job. “Staying pure to the genre” and “rejecting commercialism” seems to me to be more the complaints of purists who listen to music or view artworks. To those producers, “staying pure” doesn’t pay the rent or put food on the table.

No one asks an architect who designs buildings or bridges to “stay pure” to their art if they can make more money at it, so why the special standard for musicians?

[back to your regularly scheduled LGF]

When I was a professional musician in Flagstaff, AZ in the 80’s, we had a commercial C&W band that played Wed-Sat at the cowboy bar. It paid the rent. Sunday evenings I had a psychobilly surf-punk band that played at the student bar, it did not pay much but was a creative outlet, and Tuesday evenings was fiddly and old-time music for the locals at the Weatherford Hotel. It also did not pay much but was more of a social outing.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 6, 2018 • 3:45:27am

re: #113 Unshaken Defiance

I can imagine a future archaeologist digging up a coin like this and positing that this is how humans of the early XXI conceived their image of a Trusted God

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wheat-dogg  Feb 6, 2018 • 4:00:10am

re: #194 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I can imagine a future archaeologist digging up a coin like this and positing that this is how humans of the early XXI conceived their image of a Trusted God

I like the nice touch of the mint mark, T. I suppose it’s to suggest Trump has / had his own mint, because no one else would strike such coins.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 6, 2018 • 4:04:08am

BTW, I am now in Da Nang, about a 2-minute walk to the beach. Unfortunately, it’s overcast and a bit too cold for hanging out.

Da Nang My Khe Beach
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jeffreyw  Feb 6, 2018 • 4:10:42am

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Good morning!

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Lupin  Feb 6, 2018 • 4:30:40am

Good morning too!

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Shropshire Slasher  Feb 6, 2018 • 4:36:10am

Looking forward to the SpaceX launch today. Yes, I am jealous…

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 6, 2018 • 4:45:27am

re: #55 Charles Johnson

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Tell me it’s not Mongoloid.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 6, 2018 • 4:57:53am

re: #201 jeffreyw

Bezos family donates $33 million to Dreamers scholarship program

any why does he not donate money to WHITE people?

(I say this snarkily but expect a lot of comments to that effect that are dead serious)

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Dave In Austin  Feb 6, 2018 • 5:13:04am
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MsJ  Feb 6, 2018 • 5:30:17am

re: #184 Teukka

*sighs*
It’s almost as if there’s some great conservative cabal which has decided there should be “a culling of the herd” by means of a pandemic on the order of magnitude as the Spanish?
*smh*

Well, here’s hoping that it’s Natural Selection at its finest and all the people who don’t believe in science are called home first.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 6, 2018 • 5:40:10am
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MsJ  Feb 6, 2018 • 5:53:21am

God this shit pisses me off. Have you ever heard a man referred to as an angry dad or disappointed husband?

😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡

And I’m getting really tired of “all the olds fucked us up” when all the olds who are REPUBLICANS fucked everyone.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 6, 2018 • 5:57:26am

re: #206 MsJ

How do you feel about Gavin Newsom?

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MsJ  Feb 6, 2018 • 6:14:41am

re: #207 Dave In Austin

How do you feel about Gavin Newsom?

I like Gavin quite a lot. Castro from TX, as well as Kamala Harris. And Biden.

As a woman I think America won’t elect a woman to the top spot. Not yet. That comment above was from a woman. I heard women say they would not vote for Hillary because she was a she. I think it would be a big mistake putting a woman at the top spot in 2020. Veep, sure. But not POTUS. America is to regressive still.

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lawhawk  Feb 6, 2018 • 6:14:52am
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MsJ  Feb 6, 2018 • 6:15:03am
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lawhawk  Feb 6, 2018 • 6:15:43am

re: #205 Dave In Austin

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lawhawk  Feb 6, 2018 • 6:17:27am
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Belafon  Feb 6, 2018 • 6:17:41am

re: #202 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

any why does he not donate money to WHITE people?

(I say this snarkily but expect a lot of comments to that effect that are dead serious)

I’d love for him to say “Well, I had a choice between giving it to people who’ve worked hard to pursue the American dream and those who believe they’re entitled to it, and I chose the former.”

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Belafon  Feb 6, 2018 • 6:23:02am

re: #206 MsJ

I got an email from a group that is calling itself the Progressive Campaign Committee. I almost considered donating to them because they have a “Grab ‘em by the Midterms” bumper sticker. I would have ended up with a Warren sticker as well, but I didn’t have to put it on. But, reading through the email, they said they were running against “wishy-washy Democrats” and not only did I not donate, I replied to them telling them that was the reason I wasn’t donating.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 6, 2018 • 6:23:16am

What do we do about Bernie2020?

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Decatur Deb  Feb 6, 2018 • 6:24:09am

Sequels usually suck, but I’m looking forward to The Big Short 2: Memory Loss.

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Belafon  Feb 6, 2018 • 6:27:22am

re: #215 Dave In Austin

What do we do about Bernie2020?

Require all Democratic candidates to release the last 14 years of tax returns.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 6, 2018 • 6:29:40am

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MsJ  Feb 6, 2018 • 6:29:42am

Good thread.

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dangerman  Feb 6, 2018 • 6:29:47am

re: #210 MsJ

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Contrast with what the nunes memo was supposed to have done
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MsJ  Feb 6, 2018 • 6:30:23am

re: #218 The Vicious Babushka

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Belafon  Feb 6, 2018 • 6:31:24am

re: #218 The Vicious Babushka

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Dave In Austin  Feb 6, 2018 • 6:32:24am

re: #218 The Vicious Babushka

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dangerman  Feb 6, 2018 • 6:32:39am

re: #215 Dave In Austin

What do we do about Bernie2020?

Make him register as a dem

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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2018 • 6:32:49am

re: #215 Dave In Austin

What do we do about Bernie2020?

Go at him from the left. Point out his record on immigration, sponsoring environmental racism, etc.

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MsJ  Feb 6, 2018 • 6:33:33am

re: #220 dangerman

Contrast with what the nunes memo was supposed to have done
They are clueless and missed all 5 targets

The Nunes thing was an epic fail. There’s an article in the WaPo about how that really screwed the whole GOP narrative.

It was delicious to read.

washingtonpost.com

There are other related articles. The GOP really are bad at thinking… Let alone governing.

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Unshaken Defiance  Feb 6, 2018 • 6:34:37am

re: #224 dangerman

re: #225 HappyWarrior

Make him register with these folks.
Peace And Freedom Party Leaves room for the serious candidates.

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dangerman  Feb 6, 2018 • 6:35:24am

re: #218 The Vicious Babushka

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 6, 2018 • 6:36:01am

re: #222 Belafon

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Decatur Deb  Feb 6, 2018 • 6:36:20am

re: #218 The Vicious Babushka

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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2018 • 6:37:00am

re: #205 Dave In Austin

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Of course he’s doing this. I bet Jackson’s family isn’t too happy seeing the Orange Douche using his death to justify his xenophobia. Fuck him. Monster.

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Belafon  Feb 6, 2018 • 6:37:37am

re: #229 The Vicious Babushka

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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2018 • 6:38:03am

re: #206 MsJ

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God this shit pisses me off. Have you ever heard a man referred to as an angry dad or disappointed husband?

😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡

And I’m getting really tired of “all the olds fucked us up” when all the olds who are REPUBLICANS fucked everyone.

I do want a younger candidate but I agree with you too.

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Belafon  Feb 6, 2018 • 6:39:54am

re: #206 MsJ

God this shit pisses me off. Have you ever heard a man referred to as an angry dad or disappointed husband?

😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡

And I’m getting really tired of “all the olds fucked us up” when all the olds who are REPUBLICANS fucked everyone.

A lot of who are now the middle aged have screwed things over. But we should use your terms to describe Bernie.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2018 • 6:40:21am

Should add plenty of younger assholes too. Stephen Miller is my age and a big reason we’re not getting anywhere on DACA.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 6, 2018 • 6:40:41am

You know how it’s a bad idea to save old painkillers from a kidney stone episode and take them if you have another one and the doctors can’t ‘work you in’?

It’s not a bad idea.

Did I mention this year really sucks?

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Dave In Austin  Feb 6, 2018 • 6:41:08am
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dangerman  Feb 6, 2018 • 6:41:15am

re: #226 MsJ

The Nunes thing was an epic fail. There’s an article in the WaPo about how that really screwed the whole GOP narrative.

It was delicious to read.

washingtonpost.com

There are other related articles. The GOP really are bad at thinking… Let alone governing.

Apologies to pink Floyd: all in all it’s just another rake in the face

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dangerman  Feb 6, 2018 • 6:42:15am

re: #227 Unshaken Defiance

Make him register with these folks.
Peace And Freedom Party Leaves room for the serious candidates.

Even better.
I was saying dem cause he never would

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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2018 • 6:42:22am

Warren? Frankly I think she doesn’t strike me as pres material. I prefer candidates with interest in FO especially now since Trump has alienated allies. Warren is a great advocate for the average American but Potus is more than that.

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MsJ  Feb 6, 2018 • 6:42:46am

I love Andy. He’s one of my fav Twitter follows.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 6, 2018 • 6:43:16am

re: #235 HappyWarrior

Should add plenty of younger assholes too. Stephen Miller is my age and a big reason we’re not getting anywhere on DACA.

Stephen Miller is a quirk in universal fabric. Every generation has its stray hairs.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 6, 2018 • 6:43:21am

re: #218 The Vicious Babushka

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dangerman  Feb 6, 2018 • 6:43:27am

re: #229 The Vicious Babushka

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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2018 • 6:44:15am

re: #237 Dave In Austin

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Nope just trying to exploit a player who Pence and him called SOBs for kneeling.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2018 • 6:45:01am

re: #242 Dave In Austin

Stephen Miller is a quirk in universal fabric. Every generation has its stray hairs.

True. I just think blame is collective regardless of age.

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MsJ  Feb 6, 2018 • 6:46:02am

re: #229 The Vicious Babushka

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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2018 • 6:49:04am

The other thing about the NFL player case is he’s presuming guilt. He could poison a prospective juror with his tweets. He’s just so stupid.

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BlueGrl21  Feb 6, 2018 • 6:50:43am

re: #155 austin_blue

Exactly. It is sociopathic behavior, dead bang. It’s not psychopathic, he’s not crazy. If a fact doesn’t fit his narcissistic worldview, however, it’s simply wrong in his mind. That’s a different kind of kink, but we can’t have a President with that kink. It could get us all killed.

The fucker has got to go.

Ok, I’m going to be a bit of a pedant.

Psychopaths, sociopaths, and narcissists are not “crazy.” They know right from wrong, they know legal from illegal, they just don’t think it applies to them. They have personality disorders.

There is a TON of debate in the mental health community on this topic and I will spare you. But what I just wrote is not something they fight over much.

That’s different than being psychotic. You see psychosis in people with mental illnesses like schizophrenia or bipolar. Psychosis is, by definition, a break from reality. These people are disorganized and need to be medicated and/or hospitalized. They genuinely have no concept of what they are doing.

I’ve been psychotic once. There is no kind of knowledge of reality. None.

Donald Trump is not psychotic but I am almost 100% certain he has a personality disorder, a nasty one.

And yes, absolutely the fucker needs to go.

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Shropshire Slasher  Feb 6, 2018 • 6:54:35am

Andrew Cuomo is pretty young, and I would love to get rid of him!

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Sir John Barron  Feb 6, 2018 • 6:54:53am

Anybody know what happened to all the RELEASETHEMEMO craze from just the other week? Doesn’t seem like the bots are all that excited about seeing the Dem memo. I wonder why that might be?

/

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MsJ  Feb 6, 2018 • 6:55:45am

re: #251 Sir John Barron

Anybody know what happened to all the RELEASETHEMEMO craze from just the other week? Doesn’t seem like the bots are all that excited about seeing the Dem memo. I wonder why that might be?

/

Not only that, but the original tweets that were all over Release The Memo were quietly deleted (most of which originated from the russian bot machine).

Yeah, I wonder.

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Shropshire Slasher  Feb 6, 2018 • 6:56:24am

Some folks are picking up some bargains on the DJIA.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 6, 2018 • 6:59:18am

Awwwww, Stinky Julian has a sads…

A British court has just ruled that the arrest warrant for Julian Assange, first issued when he skipped bail in June of 2012, is still valid. Assange will be arrested if he steps foot outside of the Ecuadorian embassy in London where he’s claimed asylum ever since. Assange’s lawyers will continue to argue other technical points about the case throughout the afternoon.

gizmodo.com

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Dave In Austin  Feb 6, 2018 • 7:05:09am
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dangerman  Feb 6, 2018 • 7:10:27am

re: #197 jeffreyw

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earlier this AM in addition the the usual suspects - grackles, pair of cardinals, doves, red breasted woodpecker, even the spot breasted orioles are becoming common, we had 2 male painted buntings and probably 4 females

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 6, 2018 • 7:10:33am

re: #254 Joe Bacon 🌹

Awwwww, Stinky Julian has a sads…

A British court has just ruled that the arrest warrant for Julian Assange, first issued when he skipped bail in June of 2012, is still valid. Assange will be arrested if he steps foot outside of the Ecuadorian embassy in London where he’s claimed asylum ever since. Assange’s lawyers will continue to argue other technical points about the case throughout the afternoon.

gizmodo.com

So basically, if the Ecuadorians throw Julian right out the damn door, well, that’s it for him. He’ll be arrested on the spot.

Good.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2018 • 7:14:18am

re: #255 Dave In Austin

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Obama is Stalin, oh wait they did that even without that.

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sagehen  Feb 6, 2018 • 7:14:41am

re: #196 wheat-dogg

BTW, I am now in Da Nang, about a 2-minute walk to the beach. Unfortunately, it’s overcast and a bit too cold for hanging out.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 6, 2018 • 7:15:55am

re: #248 HappyWarrior

The other thing about the NFL player case is he’s presuming guilt. He could poison a prospective juror with his tweets. He’s just so stupid.

Trump found something to get excited about again, I see.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 6, 2018 • 7:16:14am

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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2018 • 7:19:37am

re: #260 Sir John Barron

Trump found something to get excited about again, I see.

Yep. And he’ll likely use it to oppose DACA.

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Jay C  Feb 6, 2018 • 7:19:50am

re: #260 Sir John Barron

Trump found something to get excited about again, I see.

And as usual, it’s bashing “illegals” as inherently criminal.
Great Presidential behavior, that…..

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Sir John Barron  Feb 6, 2018 • 7:22:39am

re: #262 HappyWarrior

Yep. And he’ll likely use it to oppose DACA.

CoS Kelly: Sir, a LB for the Indianapolis Colts was killed by a drunk driver last night.

What the hell do I care about some spoiled football player who probably kneeled in front of my flag?

CoS Kelly: Sir, the drunk driver appears to have been an undocumented immigrant who had previously been deported.

Oh why didn’t you say so? That’s tragic then. Pure evil! Must stop!

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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2018 • 7:22:46am

re: #263 Jay C

And as usual, it’s bashing “illegals”.
Great Presidential behavior, that…..

Yep. Some of the wingnuts I know are already on it.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 6, 2018 • 7:22:55am

Meanwhile, the UK’s answer to Ann Coulter seems to be in hot water:

TV personality Katie Hopkins has been detained in South Africa after being accused of spreading racial hatred.

The controversial columnist has had her passport marked and she says she fears she will not be allowed to fly out of the country, reports Devon Live.

She posted a video to Twitter after filming herself at the airport in South Africa, she said: “At passport control, I’ve been through security and I’ve been detained, my passport has been marked for spreading racial hatred here in South Africa.

“I’m not sure what’s going to happen, they’ve taken my passport away from me but it doesn’t look like a this present time I’ll be allowed to board my flight and leave the country.

The action comes after Hopkins asked fans to donate to a documentary she’s making about “military-style” attacks on white farmers in South Africa.

Hopkins was temporarily detained when she tried to enter South Africa.

plymouthherald.co.uk

Instant Karma! (We All Shine On) - Lennon/Ono with The Plastic Ono Band

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dangerman  Feb 6, 2018 • 7:23:05am

re: #253 Shropshire Slasher

Some folks are picking up some bargains on the DJIA.

there are always bargains if you’re a player and willing to assume the risk

if you’re an investor, same playing pieces, different game altogether

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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2018 • 7:23:25am

re: #264 Sir John Barron

CoS Kelly: Sir, a LB for the Indianapolis Colts was killed by a drunk driver last night.

What the hell do I care about some spoiled football player who probably kneeled in front of my flag?

CoS Kelly: Sir, the drunk driver appears to have been an undocumented immigrant who had previously been deported.

Oh why didn’t you say so? That’s tragic then. Pure evil! Must stop!

Accurate.

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dangerman  Feb 6, 2018 • 7:24:22am

re: #255 Dave In Austin

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the seed if an idea to take down fox?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2018 • 7:24:29am

re: #266 Dr Lizardo

Meanwhile, the UK’s answer to Ann Coulter seems to be in hot water:

plymouthherald.co.uk

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Sigh why do we have so many people like her, Coulter, Lehren, & others out there?

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 6, 2018 • 7:26:04am

re: #270 HappyWarrior

Because there’s mucho dinero to be made by fomenting hate.

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sagehen  Feb 6, 2018 • 7:26:08am

re: #203 Dave In Austin

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Rick Wilson really does have a way with words.

“You may have noticed by now, but I’m not one to pull any punches on Donald Trump. As a conservative, I see him as a statist abomination, a plump, be-wattled authoritarian-wannabe man-baby with the intellectual horsepower of a toaster oven.”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 6, 2018 • 7:26:10am

re: #270 HappyWarrior

Sigh why do we have so many people like her, Coulter, Lehren, & others out there?

Because the ACLU will defend their right to lie and spread hate.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2018 • 7:27:14am

re: #271 Dr Lizardo

Because there’s mucho dinero to be made by fomenting hate.

Too true.

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dangerman  Feb 6, 2018 • 7:28:05am

re: #262 HappyWarrior

Yep. And he’ll likely use it to oppose DACA.

because “DACA” killed Mr. Jackson, not alcohol

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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2018 • 7:28:09am

re: #273 Joe Bacon 🌹

Because the ACLU will defend their right to lie and spread hate.

They have the right but damn there’s so many of these people making mucho dinero on hate while good, hardworking people struggle.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2018 • 7:30:57am

re: #275 dangerman

because “DACA” killed Mr. Jackson, not alcohol

It’s Trump. You saw what he did in that California case.

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MsJ  Feb 6, 2018 • 7:31:18am

re: #257 Dr Lizardo

So basically, if the Ecuadorians throw Julian right out the damn door, well, that’s it for him. He’ll be arrested on the spot.

Good.

I wouldn’t be surprised if the Ecuadorians called the London police to let them know when this event is taking place.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 6, 2018 • 7:31:18am

re: #276 HappyWarrior

They have the right but damn there’s so many of these people making mucho dinero on hate while good, hardworking people struggle.

Happy, as Deep Throat said, “Follow The Money!”. You’ll see that the Mercers, Waltons, Kochs and their billionaire butt buddies are financing these hate peddlers. Yeah, Old Man Mercer will come out of his KKKoffin and utter a fake apology about unleashing Milo on us but DraKKKula’s Daughter RebeKKKah will still sip the cash to that freaKKK!

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sagehen  Feb 6, 2018 • 7:32:21am

re: #218 The Vicious Babushka

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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2018 • 7:32:32am

re: #279 Joe Bacon 🌹

Happy, as Deep Throat said, “Follow The Money!”. You’ll see that the Mercers, Waltons, Kochs and their billionaire butt buddies are financing these hate peddlers. Yeah, Old Man Mercer will come out of his KKKoffin and utter a fake apology about unleashing Milo on us but DraKKKula’s Daughter RebeKKKah will still sip the cash to that freaKKK!

Oh for sure. It’s a big business.

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MsJ  Feb 6, 2018 • 7:33:57am

re: #270 HappyWarrior

Sigh why do we have so many people like her, Coulter, Lehren, & others out there?

Because there is money to be made! Hate pays.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2018 • 7:34:58am

I guess not why but how the hell did we get this country and world to a place where there’s a market for that?

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Lupin  Feb 6, 2018 • 7:36:00am

re: #270 HappyWarrior

Sigh why do we have so many people like her, Coulter, Lehren, & others out there?

Because you don’t have fire extinguishers. We didn’t either but after two big fires, we learned our lesson.

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sagehen  Feb 6, 2018 • 7:36:52am

re: #241 MsJ

I love Andy. He’s one of my fav Twitter follows.

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Since Atul Gawande is on board, I’ll trust it’s a good idea.

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Belafon  Feb 6, 2018 • 7:37:58am

re: #283 HappyWarrior

I guess not why but how the hell did we get this country and world to a place where there’s a market for that?

There has always been a market for it, at every time period, in every part of the world. The question is who gets to decide how to control it, and can those tools be turned against you.

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Lupin  Feb 6, 2018 • 7:38:14am

re: #283 HappyWarrior

I guess not why but how the hell did we get this country and world to a place where there’s a market for that?

There’s always been (& maybe always will be) a market for that, like doctors selling snake oil in the old west. Now they do it on TV.

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dangerman  Feb 6, 2018 • 7:38:18am

re: #282 MsJ

Because there is money to be made! Hate pays.

a rube and his money are easily parted

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Dr. Matt  Feb 6, 2018 • 7:39:09am

The dead cat bounced and then fell down a flight of stairs.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 6, 2018 • 7:39:10am

re: #272 sagehen

We all have our conservative friends…….

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dangerman  Feb 6, 2018 • 7:41:06am

re: #289 Dr. Matt

The dead cat bounced and then fell down a flight of stairs.

but but wohl said yesterday it was time to “BUY BUY BUY”!!!

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Dave In Austin  Feb 6, 2018 • 7:42:30am
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Lupin  Feb 6, 2018 • 7:44:12am

re: #292 Dave In Austin

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Trump: superior arrogance, mediocre intelligence, inferior courage, stubborn refusal to turn away from patently self-destructive policies.

What could go w-r-nog.

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jeffreyw  Feb 6, 2018 • 7:46:30am

Imgur


“Nobody goes there anymore, it’s too crowded.”

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Interesting Times  Feb 6, 2018 • 7:49:24am
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dangerman  Feb 6, 2018 • 7:49:25am

re: #289 Dr. Matt

The dead cat bounced and then fell down a flight of stairs.

and back up again to even
maybe it’s gonna roller coaster at least for a while

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Dr. Matt  Feb 6, 2018 • 7:49:31am

re: #291 dangerman

but but wohl said yesterday it was time to “BUY BUY BUY”!!!

Looks like someone just picked up the dead cat and is ready toss it out the window one more time today.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 6, 2018 • 7:52:58am

Chris Cillizza is on the side of truth today — maybe he will make this a habit!
cnn.com

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Belafon  Feb 6, 2018 • 7:53:32am

re: #297 Dr. Matt

Looks like someone just picked up the dead cat and is ready toss it out the window one more time today.

Yep. The Dow and NASDAQ are in positive territory.

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ObserverArt  Feb 6, 2018 • 7:53:54am

re: #294 jeffreyw

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“Nobody goes there anymore, it’s too crowded.”

I don’t think I’ve ever seen that many cardinals in one spot at one time. The ol’ Fly-In Diner is popular with them it seems.

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Belafon  Feb 6, 2018 • 7:54:07am

re: #298 Hecuba’s daughter

Chris Cillizza is on the side of truth today — maybe he will make this a habit!
cnn.com

Hopefully you laughed really loud after typing that.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 6, 2018 • 7:58:05am

re: #299 Belafon

Yep. The Dow and NASDAQ are in positive territory.

Who knows with the market? Maybe it will resume its upward path for the rest of the year — or maybe it will have another precipitous drop.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 6, 2018 • 8:01:41am

re: #291 dangerman

but but wohl said yesterday it was time to “BUY BUY BUY”!!!

If you always do the opposite of what that dipshit suggests, you’ll do well.

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sagehen  Feb 6, 2018 • 8:02:31am

re: #295 Interesting Times

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Belafon  Feb 6, 2018 • 8:04:12am

re: #298 Hecuba’s daughter

I wonder if Chris will agree with this article, written by Jonathan Rauch and Benjamin Wittes of the Brookings Institute. It argues that conservatives must vote Democratic in the next elections to save Democracy. It specifically ends with this:

We understand why Republicans, even moderate ones, are reluctant to cross party lines. Party, today, is identity. But in the through-the-looking-glass era of Donald Trump, the best thing Republicans can do for their party is vote against it.

We understand, too, the many imperfections of the Democratic Party. Its left is extreme, its center is confused, and it has its share of bad apples. But the Democratic Party is not a threat to our democratic order. That is why we are rising above our independent predilections and behaving like dumb-ass partisans. It’s why we hope many smart people will do the same.

Edit: I don’t entirely agree with their view of the Democratic party, but I do agree that Democrats aren’t trying to destroy Democracy.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 6, 2018 • 8:07:32am

re: #295 Interesting Times

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Did something happen recently to leave Melania less than thrilled with her husband? Some stormy weather in their relationship?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 6, 2018 • 8:09:01am

re: #306 Big Beautiful Door

Did something happen recently did leave Melania less than thrilled with her husband? Some stormy weather in their relationship?

We need to bring attention to more of his affairs. She clearly didn’t mind the cheating, since she married a cheater, but she does hate the public embarrassment.

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dangerman  Feb 6, 2018 • 8:12:23am

re: #298 Hecuba’s daughter

Chris Cillizza is on the side of truth today — maybe he will make this a habit!
cnn.com

the wh is already walking it back as a “tongue in cheek” remark

just another rake in the face

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dangerman  Feb 6, 2018 • 8:15:18am

re: #305 Belafon

I wonder if Chris will agree with this article, written by Jonathan Rauch and Benjamin Wittes of the Brookings Institute. It argues that conservatives must vote Democratic in the next elections to save Democracy. It specifically ends with this:

Edit: I don’t entirely agree with their view of the Democratic party, but I do agree that Democrats aren’t trying to destroy Democracy.

the problem is the r’s don’t think they are destroying democracy
they think the d’s and only the d’s are capable of and in fact are destroying “democracy”

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 6, 2018 • 8:16:02am

So, earlier today, a student and I were discussing the 1990’s US sitcom Frasier, which airs on TV here on one of the smaller networks, and which she’d never seen before (it really does lose something when it’s not in English) and her question was “How come we never see Maris?”

I tried explaining to her that it was basically a running gag in the show - that Maris was often described, but never seen, leaving it to your imagination. I don’t think my student quite understood that concept. So when she asked me what I though Maris looked like, you know, my mind flashed back to watching that show in the ’90s, and I always mentally pictured Maris as Shelley Duvall, circa early 1970’s. Sorta like this:

But, that’s just my take.

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Belafon  Feb 6, 2018 • 8:16:11am

And the DK diary I got this from added this note at the end:

UPDATE:

Hey, it’s my first time at the top of the Rec List! Thanks for caring about this. But as long as we’re here, I want to spotlight a theme I see developing in the comments. Several kossacks took issue with the article’s characterization of the Dem Party as extreme or confused, and the typical pie fights ensued. Taking sides in that fight isn’t the point of this note, but I want to mention it as context for a request.

~~~ Please, do not attack or fight against people who are trying to help us! ~~~

I would like to have the luxury of caring about your totally valid criticism of the authors, the way the message was crafted, or the injustice of it all — I really would. But ain’t nobody got time for that. We’re not a bunch of mean girls who live to you-can’t-sit-here uncool former Republicans.

You (yes, you) did not spring from Zeus’ brow as a fully-woke liberal, ready to wage battle against intolerance and fascism. Every one of us had our journey to political awakening. I was a right pill about things when I was in college, and it took me a few years to find my way. But I did, and now I’m here. And if these people want to join us, I think there’s plenty of room at the table. My favorite way I heard it put was: When someone finally sees the light, don’t give them a hard time for not seeing it sooner.

When a jumper is on the ledge, the first goal is to keep them from jumping. Only after you have them secured do you think about finding them a therapist and fixing their insomnia. Our nation is on the ledge and needs to be talked down. We can worry about niceties later.

So please, I implore you: Let’s put aside all the nice-to-have wishes and focus on the critical, existential issues that will absolutely destroy us if they aren’t dealt with. And to do that, stop fighting people who are trying to help us!

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dangerman  Feb 6, 2018 • 8:16:39am

re: #308 dangerman

the wh is already walking it back as a “tongue in cheek” remark

just another rake in the face

here’s a cnbc link

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MsJ  Feb 6, 2018 • 8:18:44am

re: #295 Interesting Times

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Belafon  Feb 6, 2018 • 8:19:10am

re: #310 Dr Lizardo

Another example would be the neighbor in Home Improvement. You could never see more than the top of his face, even when he showed up at parties.

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dangerman  Feb 6, 2018 • 8:20:00am

re: #310 Dr Lizardo

So, earlier today, a student and I were discussing the 1990’s US sitcom Frasier, which airs on TV here on one of the smaller networks, and which she’d never seen before (it really does lose something when it’s not in English) and her question was “How come we never see Maris?”

I tried explaining to her that it was basically a running gag in the show - that Maris was often described, but never seen, leaving it to your imagination. I don’t think my student quite understood that concept. So when she asked me what I though Maris looked like, you know, my mind flashed back to watching that show in the ’90s, and I always mentally pictured Maris as Shelley Duvall, circa early 1970’s. Sorta like this:

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But, that’s just my take.

i guess there’s a lot of never seen characters

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 6, 2018 • 8:20:05am

re: #314 Belafon

Another example would be the neighbor in Home Improvement. You could never see more than the top of his face, even when he showed up at parties.

Or Wolowitz’s mother in Big Bang Theory

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 6, 2018 • 8:21:38am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 6, 2018 • 8:22:14am

re: #316 Big Beautiful Door

Or Wolowitz’s mother in Big Bang Theory

Norm’s wife on Cheers
Kramers friend Bob on Seinfeld

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 6, 2018 • 8:23:41am

re: #314 Belafon

re: #315 dangerman

re: #316 Big Beautiful Door

I’ve always found the unseen character to be a cool device, when used within reason. But this particular student, well, she’s sort of a literal type person, so it sort of bugs her when she can’t see the person being talked about. She needs to see it.

I guess at the very least, now she’ll picture Shelley Duvall when she’s watching Frasier and Maris’ name comes up, LOL.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 6, 2018 • 8:25:14am

re: #318 Eclectic Cyborg

Norm’s wife on Cheers
Kramers friend Bob on Seinfeld

bob sacamano

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 6, 2018 • 8:25:43am

re: #317 FormerDirtDart

For this huge task, FEMA tapped Tiffany Brown, an Atlanta entrepreneur with no experience in large-scale disaster relief and at least five canceled government contracts in her past. FEMA awarded her $156 million for the job, and Ms. Brown, who is the sole owner and employee of her company, Tribute Contracting LLC, set out to find some help.

It then goes on to say this woman hired a WEDDING CATERER to help with the meals. FFS.

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sagehen  Feb 6, 2018 • 8:27:12am

re: #315 dangerman

i guess there’s a lot of never seen characters

This was from 2016, and is out of date.

First on their list is Diane in “Twin Peaks”… but she was in the reboot last year.
Also on the list is the mother in “How I Met Your Mother”… but she’s in the series finale.

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dangerman  Feb 6, 2018 • 8:27:43am

re: #319 Dr Lizardo

I’ve always found the unseen character to be a cool device, when used within reason. But this particular student, well, she’s sort of a literal type person, so it sort of bugs her when she can’t see the person being talked about. She needs to see it.

I guess at the very least, now she’ll picture Shelley Duvall when she’s watching Frasier and Maris’ name comes up, LOL.

yeah. and i guess there’s a difference between characters who are talked about though never seen as compared to characters that are talked to directly, or you hear and dont see

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jaunte  Feb 6, 2018 • 8:27:49am

Thread:

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dangerman  Feb 6, 2018 • 8:30:48am

re: #321 Eclectic Cyborg

For this huge task, FEMA tapped Tiffany Brown, an Atlanta entrepreneur with no experience in large-scale disaster relief and at least five canceled government contracts in her past. FEMA awarded her $156 million for the job, and Ms. Brown, who is the sole owner and employee of her company, Tribute Contracting LLC, set out to find some help.

It then goes on to say this woman hired a WEDDING CATERER to help with the meals. FFS.

i looked up her sec of state filing
unless she has some mad personal skills, its a shell llc

im guessing she figured to take the 156m, not do any work herself, sub it all out and keeping the gravy

like the 10 man electric contractor from idaho? montana?

still how these people passed the smell test with fema? they had to figure everyone was watching…. (or not)

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dangerman  Feb 6, 2018 • 8:32:09am

re: #322 sagehen

This was from 2016, and is out of date.

First on their list is Diane in “Twin Peaks”… but she was in the reboot last year.
Also on the list is the mother in “How I Met Your Mother”… but she’s in the series finale.

ok ok, uncle

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jaunte  Feb 6, 2018 • 8:32:50am

re: #325 dangerman

Looking at her Linked In page it’s hard to see that she’s anything but a self-promoter.
linkedin.com

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A dark and stormy covfefe  Feb 6, 2018 • 8:33:04am

re: #295 Interesting Times

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sagehen  Feb 6, 2018 • 8:33:21am

re: #324 jaunte

Thread:

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rawstory.com
Joe Scarborough baits Trump who he knows is watching: ‘His lawyers think he’s too stupid to talk to Mueller’

On Monday, Scarborough appeared to be directing his remarks about the interview directly at Trump, who is known to watch the show.

“He’s president of the United States,” Scarborough stated. “And I think [New York Congressman] Lee Zeldin and other people who think the president is too stupid to talk to Bob Mueller should keep their opinion to themselves. And I think his lawyers — Donald Trump can speak for himself better than some pointy-headed lawyer.”

Referring to two upcoming guests, the MSNBC host added, “They don’t think the president’s stupid like his own lawyers do.”

“Why do the president lawyers think he’s too stupid [to talk to Mueller]?” Scarborough concluded.

MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough: Trump’s lawyers think he’s ‘too stupid’ to talk to Mueller

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dangerman  Feb 6, 2018 • 8:35:03am

re: #327 jaunte

Looking at her Linked In page it’s hard to see that she’s anything but a self-promoter.
linkedin.com

i always go to the incorporation source first - it either says a lot or it says nothing
and i dont “link”

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dangerman  Feb 6, 2018 • 8:37:38am

re: #329 sagehen

rawstory.com
Joe Scarborough baits Trump who he knows is watching: ‘His lawyers think he’s too stupid to talk to Mueller’

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“whatever you do, don’t talk to mueller”!

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jaunte  Feb 6, 2018 • 8:38:53am

re: #330 dangerman

For her own fashion design company:

Notable Accomplishments:
Turned results from $300K loss to $50K loss in first year.

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Ace-o-aces  Feb 6, 2018 • 8:38:56am

“I’m sorry Mr. Greenwald. You appear to have a serious case of “both-sideism”. I’m afraid it’s terminal.”

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 6, 2018 • 8:44:31am

Word just coming in of a major earthquake hitting Taiwan. 6.4 moment magnitude, and apparently knocked over some buildings in the eastern city of Hualien.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 6, 2018 • 8:44:49am

re: #333 Ace-o-aces

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“I’m sorry Mr. Greenwald. You appear to have a serious case of “both-sideism”. I’m afraid it’s terminal.”

He’s a disruptor who just wants to harm America. Understandable I think, since he’s a gay man who grew up in a deeply-homophobic America, and hasn’t lived here while we moved forward on equal rights for gay people.

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Ace-o-aces  Feb 6, 2018 • 8:46:52am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2018 • 8:47:01am

A movie but Fargo’s Riley Diefenbach.

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JordanRules  Feb 6, 2018 • 8:48:12am

re: #335 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Interestingly enough, he did not move somewhere less homophobic.

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dangerman  Feb 6, 2018 • 8:48:30am

re: #332 jaunte

For her own fashion design company:

we’ll make it up in volume

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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2018 • 8:48:47am

re: #336 Ace-o-aces

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My family came here this way. Second great Nana’s brother care first and then her, her widowed Mom, and the other kids. You have to be a direct relative to emigrate this way despite Trumps lies.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2018 • 8:49:52am

re: #335 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

He’s a disruptor who just wants to harm America. Understandable I think, since he’s a gay man who grew up in a deeply-homophobic America, and hasn’t lived here while we moved forward on equal rights for gay people.

It’d make more sense if he wasn’t a Putin apologist tho.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2018 • 8:50:18am

re: #338 JordanRules

Interestingly enough, he did not move somewhere less homophobic.

Yeah Brazil isn’t exactly enlightened.

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Ace-o-aces  Feb 6, 2018 • 8:50:58am

re: #335 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

He’s a disruptor who just wants to harm America. Understandable I think, since he’s a gay man who grew up in a deeply-homophobic America, and hasn’t lived here while we moved forward on equal rights for gay people.

He’s always been an imperious ass, but he used to have a sense of reason and proportion. Back in the day, he would write long, nuanced posts on issues like this. Twitter ruined him.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 6, 2018 • 8:51:07am

re: #294 jeffreyw

Travis Co./Jonestown Chipping Sparrows on the deck
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Ace-o-aces  Feb 6, 2018 • 8:53:19am
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Feb 6, 2018 • 8:56:04am

re: #329 sagehen

Yeah, I heard that segment. Joe was totally baiting him into talking to Mueller despite what his lawyers say. I bet the dotard falls for it too.

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Ace-o-aces  Feb 6, 2018 • 8:56:30am
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garzooma  Feb 6, 2018 • 8:56:34am

re: #333 Ace-o-aces

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Speaking of which: @CoryBooker says release of the Nunes memo may be “treasonous” mediaite.com

Is there a discussion anywhere of the the way the Nunes memo has been damaging (as opposed to a nothingburger). I’ve seen some mentions, but I’m hoping for something more than tweets.

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jaunte  Feb 6, 2018 • 8:57:01am
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Ace-o-aces  Feb 6, 2018 • 8:58:20am

re: #348 garzooma

Is there a discussion anywhere of the the way the Nunes memo has been damaging (as opposed to a nothingburger). I’ve seen some mentions, but I’m hoping for something more than tweets.

It gives a timeline for when intelligence was gathered, which gives the Russians a clue on where and when and how the US learned what they were up to.

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Teukka  Feb 6, 2018 • 8:58:22am
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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 6, 2018 • 8:59:09am

re: #348 garzooma

Is there a discussion anywhere of the the way the Nunes memo has been damaging (as opposed to a nothingburger). I’ve seen some mentions, but I’m hoping for something more than tweets.

Here is one by Dalia Lithwick on Slate.

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Jay C  Feb 6, 2018 • 8:59:16am

Whew! Here’s a piece of good news…

Another False Alert: There Is No Tsunami Headed To New York

I figured if it was real, it might have disrupted the stock-market news for a bit (maybe they would have appreciated a timely tsunami?).

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jaunte  Feb 6, 2018 • 9:00:11am

Early delivery today of the Fox New Insider email.
Usually it comes in mid afternoon. They must want to make sure everyone gets the talking points to spread around.

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jaunte  Feb 6, 2018 • 9:00:51am

Another window to Bizarro Universe:

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Dave In Austin  Feb 6, 2018 • 9:01:13am

re: #346 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

That plus the synergy of the hatefest between Hannity and Joe to add to the Daily Spittle.

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Belafon  Feb 6, 2018 • 9:01:52am

re: #354 jaunte

Early delivery today of the Fox New Insider email.
Usually it comes in mid afternoon. They must want to make sure everyone gets the talking points to spread around.

[Embedded content]

“How do you pay for a warrant?”

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 6, 2018 • 9:02:55am

Saw this floating around the Czech part of the intertubes:

The Czech-language sign on the display says “Start your day with a light breakfast”.

LOL

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jaunte  Feb 6, 2018 • 9:04:19am

re: #357 Belafon

He doesn’t explain, he just asserts:

Levin:

“…Let’s walk through this quickly. Who are they trying to protect? Hillary Clinton. Sean, who else are they trying to protect? Barack Obama. His name never comes up. So let me help everybody with this. Loretta Lynch knew about these FISA warrants. [Sally] Yates, the deputy attorney general, the extensions Rod Rosenstein, now the deputy attorney general. He knew. FBI Director Comey, Deputy Director [Andrew] McCabe, [Peter] Strzok, the head of counterintelligence, [Lisa] Page, his girlfriend. Who else would known about these FISA applications and warrants?

Well, let me tell you a little secret. These are counterintelligence efforts. You have to assume the National Security Council (NSC) and the White House knew. Why would the FBI, Justice Department, keep that from the National Security Director in the White House? Why would they keep it from the Deputy Director in the White House? So why would be left out of the president’s daily intelligence briefing which I mentioned in March Congress also needs to get a hold of.

I am telling you, we’re looking at the FBI, we’re looking at the Department of Justice, and we are not looking at all — at all — at the White House. Hillary Clinton paid for a warrant. That’s the easiest way we can put it. Hillary Clinton colluded with the Russians. But it appears the FBI at the seniormost levels colluded with the Russians too. Whether it was witting or unwitting, it doesn’t matter. That’s a fact.”
realclearpolitics.com

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Lupin  Feb 6, 2018 • 9:06:35am

re: #341 HappyWarrior

It’d make more sense if he wasn’t a Putin apologist tho.

I had once an exchange of emails with GG over a controversial topic, where nevertheless there were actual indisputable facts in evidence; after I “caught” him either ignoring said facts by mistake or on purpose, he would not retract his earlier statements and admit he was wrong. He ended up by delivering a series of ad hominem insults.

From this exchange I gathered that GG will never ever admit he might be wrong; even when confronted with factual evidence, he will not change his mind.

He was right once, around the time the Iraq War and the Bush/Cheney cabal, but since he is totally unable to update his thinking, and things have changed,a lot, since then, that inability has progressively driven him to the side of the Russians.

He is the perfect example of the “useful idiot.”

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Belafon  Feb 6, 2018 • 9:06:41am

re: #359 jaunte

He doesn’t explain, he just asserts:

Levin:

If I spew enough bullshit, it must be true because of the volume. //

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 6, 2018 • 9:07:00am

re: #345 Ace-o-aces

Account reported:

[Embedded content]

The second person on Moreland’s timeline is the Russian bot Amy Mek.
These people are literally insane.

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jaunte  Feb 6, 2018 • 9:07:08am

re: #361 Belafon

“IT’S A FACT”

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DodgerFan1988  Feb 6, 2018 • 9:07:15am
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Jay C  Feb 6, 2018 • 9:08:49am

re: #359 jaunte

He doesn’t explain, he just asserts:

Why would be bother to “explain”? It’s Fox: Levin (and the rest of the gang) can simply spout off any nonsense they like, secure in the knowledge that their audience will accept anything (ANYTHING) they say at face value, as long as it bashes their “enemies”. Baseless assertion or not: this a propaganda network, stuff like “facts” and “reality” are changeable/disposable concepts*.

* like diapers, with similar contents

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jaunte  Feb 6, 2018 • 9:08:55am

Trying to find any facts in these word clouds being spewed will drive you nuts.

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BeachDem  Feb 6, 2018 • 9:09:46am

re: #305 Belafon

I wonder if Chris will agree with this article, written by Jonathan Rauch and Benjamin Wittes of the Brookings Institute. It argues that conservatives must vote Democratic in the next elections to save Democracy. It specifically ends with this:

Edit: I don’t entirely agree with their view of the Democratic party, but I do agree that Democrats aren’t trying to destroy Democracy.

Don’t know about Cillizza, but Jennifer Rubin does:

If you believe in the rule of law, democratic norms and institutions and decent public debate, Republicans must pay a heavy, heavy price for indulging Trump. I am compelled to agree with Wittes and Rauch: “The goal is to make the Republican Party answerable at every level, exacting a political price so stinging as to force the party back into the democratic fold.” (That’s small “d” democratic.) Whether you think the GOP is salvageable or not, to reelect this crew in the midterms is to complete the capitulation to Trump’s anti-democratic brand of politics. All Americans are compelled to stop this.

washingtonpost.com

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Lupin  Feb 6, 2018 • 9:09:57am

re: #345 Ace-o-aces

Account reported:

[Embedded content]

This piece of excrement would be so against the law here.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2018 • 9:10:41am

re: #355 jaunte

Another window to Bizarro Universe:

[Embedded content]

JFC no wonder why wingnuts are fucked up when they get propaganda like that fed to them.

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Ace-o-aces  Feb 6, 2018 • 9:10:52am
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Ace-o-aces  Feb 6, 2018 • 9:12:24am

re: #359 jaunte

I’m old enough to remember when liberals who were afraid of FISA abuses were called “irrational” and accused of helping terrorists.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2018 • 9:14:15am

re: #371 Ace-o-aces

I’m old enough to remember when liberals who were afraid of FISA abuses were called “irrational” and accused of helping terrorists.

By these same people no less. Hannity and Levin are nothing but Trump toadies.

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sagehen  Feb 6, 2018 • 9:14:15am

re: #348 garzooma

Is there a discussion anywhere of the the way the Nunes memo has been damaging (as opposed to a nothingburger). I’ve seen some mentions, but I’m hoping for something more than tweets.

Where it details how Carter Page came to the FBI/CIA’s attention (Russians were talking to each other about him)… that tells the Russians which people and/or phones and/or premises we’re listening to.

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Skip Intro  Feb 6, 2018 • 9:15:09am

Killer who committed massacre in Isla Vista was part of alt-right, new research shows

Elliot Rodger, the 22-year-old who killed six students in the college town of Isla Vista in 2014, was the first “alt-right killer” to strike in recent years, according to a new report from the Southern Poverty Law Center.

The report counts Rodger among 13 alleged alt-right killers whose actions left 43 people dead and more than 60 injured since 2014.

The alleged perpetrators were all men and most were under 30 years of age, the report says. The common thread: All participated in the “far-right ecosystem that defines the alt-right.”

One of them made several references to Rodger before carrying out his attack last year, the report says.

But they’re all white so who cares?

latimes.com

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dangerman  Feb 6, 2018 • 9:15:22am

re: #361 Belafon

If I spew enough bullshit, it must be true because of the volume. //

as long as some sticks to the wall, it’s a winner

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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2018 • 9:15:43am

re: #374 Skip Intro

Killer who committed massacre in Isla Vista was part of alt-right, new research shows

But they’re all white so who cares?

latimes.com

And of course silence from Trump.

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Mike Lamb  Feb 6, 2018 • 9:16:41am

re: #359 jaunte

He doesn’t explain, he just asserts:

Levin:

Because I can just barely even right now…let me pose the following questions:

1. If there was a scheme to ensure Hillary won the election, why was there no announcement of the investigation prior to the election?

2. What benefit did Clinton derive from the alleged conspiracy with the Russians? Forget that, how did she benefit from this nefarious scheme to “buy” warrants? Who did she pay within the DOJ and the FISC to get her warrant?

3. How is it that Flynn and Papadapoulous (sp) have pled guilty if there is no Russia - Trump connection?

4. And possibly most important, if so many congressional republicans are concerned about FISA abuses, why did they just vote to re-authorized the process?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2018 • 9:18:27am

re: #377 Mike Lamb

Because I can just barely even right now…let me pose the following questions:

1. If this was the case, why was there no announcement of the investigation prior to the election?

2. What benefit did Clinton derive from the alleged conspiracy with the Russians? Forget that, how did she benefit from this nefarious scheme to “buy” warrants? Who did she pay within the DOJ and the FISC to get her warrant?

3. How is it that Flynn and Papadapoulous (sp) have pled guilty if there is no Russia - Trump connection?

4. And possibly most important, if so many congressional republicans are concerned about FISA abuses, why did they just vote to re-authorized the process?

You’re being rational and thoughtful. Hannity and Levin otoh.

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sagehen  Feb 6, 2018 • 9:19:43am

re: #373 sagehen

Where it details how Carter Page came to the FBI/CIA’s attention (Russians were talking to each other about him)… that tells the Russians which people and/or phones and/or premises we’re listening to.

There was… I want to say an episode of “West Wing”, or maybe it was in a Tom Clancy novel… where some analyst wonders how it would damage our security to say we knew how many of what kind of planes the Russians had at some airbase because we have overhead pictures of it.

“But surely the Russians already know about their own planes at their own airbase.”
“Yes, but they don’t already know the resolution of our satellite photos.”

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jaunte  Feb 6, 2018 • 9:20:19am

re: #377 Mike Lamb

I enjoyed Levin’s concerned PDB question, as it’s rumored that Trump isn’t interested in reading or listening to the PDB.

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danarchy  Feb 6, 2018 • 9:21:26am

re: #376 HappyWarrior

And of course silence from Trump.

Like Trump is going to accept any report from the SPLC. Remember, to him, they are the hate group.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 6, 2018 • 9:21:49am

A Star Wars Story Trailer May Have This Big Car-Related Easter Egg

Normally, when I talk about the cars in a Star Wars trailer, I’m messing with you, like some big jerk. This time, though, I’m not really kidding, because the just-released trailer for Solo: A Star Wars Movie effectively starts with what is, really, a car chase. Sure, they have no wheels and they’re technically landspeeders or whatever, but translated from Star Wars, that means cars. And, more importantly, I think there’s an Easter Egg there for us gearheads.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2018 • 9:21:50am

re: #381 danarchy

Like Trump is going to accept any report from the SPLC. Remember, to him, they are the hate group.

Of course.

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Ace-o-aces  Feb 6, 2018 • 9:21:52am

re: #377 Mike Lamb

Because I can just barely even right now…let me pose the following questions:

1. If there was a scheme to ensure Hillary won the election, why was there no announcement of the investigation prior to the election?

2. What benefit did Clinton derive from the alleged conspiracy with the Russians? Forget that, how did she benefit from this nefarious scheme to “buy” warrants? Who did she pay within the DOJ and the FISC to get her warrant?

3. How is it that Flynn and Papadapoulous (sp) have pled guilty if there is no Russia - Trump connection?

4. And possibly most important, if so many congressional republicans are concerned about FISA abuses, why did they just vote to re-authorized the process?

5. Why the assumption that the Dossier was fake? Why would Clinton campaign pay good money for false information. If they were going to make stuff up, they could do that for free.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2018 • 9:23:08am

re: #384 Ace-o-aces

5. Why the assumption that the Dossier was fake? Why would Clinton campaign pay good money for false information. If they were going to make stuff up, they could do that for free.

6) Why has Trump relaxed the Russian sanctions, if they truly collaborated with the Clinton campaign, why help them?

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jaunte  Feb 6, 2018 • 9:23:22am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2018 • 9:26:39am

re: #386 jaunte

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American Goebells the whole network.

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sagehen  Feb 6, 2018 • 9:26:52am

re: #367 BeachDem

Don’t know about Cillizza, but Jennifer Rubin does:

If you believe in the rule of law, democratic norms and institutions and decent public debate, Republicans must pay a heavy, heavy price for indulging Trump. I am compelled to agree with Wittes and Rauch: “The goal is to make the Republican Party answerable at every level, exacting a political price so stinging as to force the party back into the democratic fold.” (That’s small “d” democratic.) Whether you think the GOP is salvageable or not, to reelect this crew in the midterms is to complete the capitulation to Trump’s anti-democratic brand of politics. All Americans are compelled to stop this.

washingtonpost.com

I worry that maybe they’ve already cut a deal with Russia for the midterms. Maybe a bunch of Democrats who thought they were registered to vote are going to find out suddenly in November that they’re not. Or maybe the Russians have enough operatives at enough state-level SecState offices to have been able to have access and hack the counting machines.

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Belafon  Feb 6, 2018 • 9:29:04am

re: #388 sagehen

I worry that maybe they’ve already cut a deal with Russia for the midterms. Maybe a bunch of Democrats who thought they were registered to vote are going to find out suddenly in November that they’re not. Or maybe the Russians have enough operatives at enough state-level SecState offices to have been able to have access and hack the counting machines.

All we can do is prepare for it as much as we can. Every Democrat will need to check their voter registration. And, in states where you get a card, bring it with you even if you can just use your license. And be prepared to make a stink.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 6, 2018 • 9:29:06am

re: #388 sagehen

I worry that maybe they’ve already cut a deal with Russia for the midterms. Maybe a bunch of Democrats who thought they were registered to vote are going to find out suddenly in November that they’re not. Or maybe the Russians have enough operatives at enough state-level SecState offices to have been able to have access and hack the counting machines.

If that were the case, Roy Moore would be a US Senator, and the GOP wouldn’t have come within a coin flip of losing its majority in the Va House of Delegates.

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rhuarc  Feb 6, 2018 • 9:29:34am

Take this with a mountain sized grain of salt, but was interesting to read. Carter Page is actually a double agent working for the US.

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jaunte  Feb 6, 2018 • 9:31:12am

Rohrabacher currently making a fool of himself in the the House Foreign Affairs Committee hearing on cyber diplomacy.

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Belafon  Feb 6, 2018 • 9:32:52am

re: #391 rhuarc

Take this with a mountain sized grain of salt, but was interesting to read. Carter Page is actually a double agent working for the US.

That’s the generous interpretation. The slightly closer to reality version is that Page is such an idiot that the IC has been tracking him all over the place because he makes himself easy to find. In either case, letting the Russians know that we’re tracking him all over the place is giving Russians the ability to disrupt our intelligence gathering.

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JordanRules  Feb 6, 2018 • 9:33:18am
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Skip Intro  Feb 6, 2018 • 9:35:34am

re: #376 HappyWarrior

And of course silence from Trump.

I remember more about this guy now. He went on his rampage because women wouldn’t date him. Rich prick with a BMW whose father was some mucky-muck in Hollywood.

Also a big fan of Hitler and the Nazi way of doing things.

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makeitstop  Feb 6, 2018 • 9:35:56am

re: #391 rhuarc

Take this with a mountain sized grain of salt, but was interesting to read. Carter Page is actually a double agent working for the US.

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And if true, Nunes and Trump have compromised him.

I still believe that was a feature, not a bug. Why in the world would this administration go to such lengths to ‘defend’ Page? I think their intent was to cripple him as an asset, and they’ve done that.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2018 • 9:36:39am

re: #395 Skip Intro

I remember more about this guy now. He went on his rampage because women wouldn’t date him. Rich prick with a BMW whose father was some mucky-muck in Hollywood.

Also a big fan of Hitler and the Nazi way of doing things.

Yep. I remember him since he was ASD as am I. He had a huge sense of entitlement and a lot of racist attitudes.

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Belafon  Feb 6, 2018 • 9:37:40am

re: #392 jaunte

Rohrabacher currently making a fool of himself in the the House Foreign Affairs Committee hearing on cyber diplomacy.

“Why won’t the real world conform to the Fox News version of the world?!”

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jaunte  Feb 6, 2018 • 9:39:08am

Sound the Konspiracy Klaxons!!!

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garzooma  Feb 6, 2018 • 9:41:47am

re: #392 jaunte

Rohrabacher currently making a fool of himself in the the House Foreign Affairs Committee hearing on cyber diplomacy.

[Embedded content]
Rohrabacher, having been given time by Garrett, asks his question again: Do you agree that the DNC hack was likely an inside job?

They’re still pushing that? The Russians told Papadopolous they had the emails. Is Rohrabacher suggesting the mythic disgruntled DNCer took a trip to Moscow?

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rhuarc  Feb 6, 2018 • 9:45:08am

re: #393 Belafon

That’s the generous interpretation. The slightly closer to reality version is that Page is such an idiot that the IC has been tracking him all over the place because he makes himself easy to find. In either case, letting the Russians know that we’re tracking him all over the place is giving Russians the ability to disrupt our intelligence gathering.

I don’t disagree. Occam’s Razor and all.

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MsJ  Feb 6, 2018 • 9:45:15am

re: #348 garzooma

Is there a discussion anywhere of the the way the Nunes memo has been damaging (as opposed to a nothingburger). I’ve seen some mentions, but I’m hoping for something more than tweets.

WaPo. I posted a link above.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 6, 2018 • 9:53:43am

re: #399 jaunte

Sound the Konspiracy Klaxons!!!

[Embedded content]

Except Soros ex daughter-in-law apparently isn’t Adam Schiff’s sister. Her maiden name may have been Schiff — but, according to Wikipedia, her parents are totally different.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2018 • 9:56:23am

re: #403 Hecuba’s daughter

Except Soros ex daughter-in-law apparently isn’t Adam Schiff’s sister. Her maiden name may have been Schiff — but, according to Wikipedia, her parents are totally different.

Oops.//

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 6, 2018 • 9:58:21am
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Jay C  Feb 6, 2018 • 9:58:51am

re: #400 garzooma

They’re still pushing that? The Russians told Papadopolous they had the emails. Is Rohrabacher suggesting the mythic disgruntled DNCer took a trip to Moscow?

Of course they’re still pushing that stupid canard: whether they believe it not is irrelevant: it’s just quote-bait for Fox and the wingnut media:

Dem official ducks Congressional question on DNC insider hack

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 6, 2018 • 10:01:08am

Damn it.
I need to ride to the store, and put it off until the 1:30 launch…

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 6, 2018 • 10:01:56am
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dangerman  Feb 6, 2018 • 10:04:42am

re: #390 Big Beautiful Door

If that were the case, Roy Moore would be a US Senator, and the GOP wouldn’t have come within a coin flip of losing its majority in the Va House of Delegates.

that we actually do this is breathtaking

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 6, 2018 • 10:08:18am

re: #407 FormerDirtDart

Damn it.
I need to ride to the store, and put it off until the 1:30 launch…

[Embedded content]

AAARRRGGGHHH

[Can’t find this tweet right now:
[Can’t find this tweet right now: twitter.com ]

]

SpaceX deleted tweet with 3 PM TO target now

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 6, 2018 • 10:13:09am
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Belafon  Feb 6, 2018 • 10:14:03am

re: #409 dangerman

that we actually do this is breathtaking

It wasn’t a coin flip in this case, but drawing a name out of a bowl.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 6, 2018 • 10:14:27am
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garzooma  Feb 6, 2018 • 10:15:22am

re: #402 MsJ

I’m referring to damage to intelligence gathering, as Ace-o-aces talks about. Just more in depth.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 6, 2018 • 10:16:15am
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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 6, 2018 • 10:16:16am

re: #391 rhuarc

Take this with a mountain sized grain of salt, but was interesting to read. Carter Page is actually a double agent working for the US.

[Embedded content]

Heh. Don’t believe that for a second.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 6, 2018 • 10:16:34am

re: #411 FormerDirtDart

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Shropshire Slasher  Feb 6, 2018 • 10:17:19am

Amtrak train breaks apart at 125 mph

A high-speed Amtrak train bound for Penn Station broke apart as it was cruising through Maryland on Tuesday, sources told The Post.

A high-speed Amtrak train bound for Penn Station broke apart as it was moving at top speed through Maryland.
The 2150 Acela was traveling from Washington D.C. to the Big Apple when the incident happened at about 11:20 a.m. The train was traveling at about 125 mph, according to the source.

“Someone could have been walking through the train when that happened and fell to their death,” said the source.

nypost.com

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 6, 2018 • 10:18:29am

re: #413 FormerDirtDart

There should be a law that any industry benefiting from regulation changes is forbidden from having events at politician-owned properties.

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Belafon  Feb 6, 2018 • 10:21:04am

re: #419 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

There should be a law that any industry benefiting from regulation changes is forbidden from having events at politician-owned properties.

Maybe it should be written into the constitution. :)

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 6, 2018 • 10:22:19am

re: #420 Belafon

Maybe it should be written into the constitution. :)

Brilliant! We’ll call it the “emoluments clause”.

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Belafon  Feb 6, 2018 • 10:24:46am

re: #421 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Brilliant! We’ll call it the “emoluments clause”.

Now all we need is an enforcement mechanism.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 6, 2018 • 10:26:25am

Another day I’m going to puke

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 6, 2018 • 10:27:35am

re: #423 Stanley Sea

Another day I’m going to puke

[Embedded content]

I’d say too afraid or were not aware of the program, but racist Republicans always need to call minorities “lazy”.

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JordanRules  Feb 6, 2018 • 10:28:19am

re: #414 garzooma

A few of the IC folks speaking on it are doing so in generalities on purpose.

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JordanRules  Feb 6, 2018 • 10:29:48am

re: #424 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Many feared that going on a Gov list would eventually put them in jeopardy because we wouldn’t keep up our end of the deal. And well…

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 6, 2018 • 10:31:30am

re: #426 JordanRules

Many feared that going on a Gov list would eventually put them in jeopardy because we wouldn’t keep up our end of the deal. And well…

There’s always a risk of Republicans getting power, and they always use it to hurt vulnerable people.

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MsJ  Feb 6, 2018 • 10:33:52am

Stunning article. It’s about damn time.

The cowardice among Republicans is staggering

washingtonpost.com

If copy sections of I could find one that stands out. Read the whole thing.

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Belafon  Feb 6, 2018 • 10:34:23am

re: #423 Stanley Sea

Another day I’m going to puke

Of course they were too afraid, because you’ve proven them correct. ICE is not going after threatening criminals, they’re going after the ones that are easy to find, the ones who followed the rules set up.

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MsJ  Feb 6, 2018 • 10:34:54am
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garzooma  Feb 6, 2018 • 10:37:57am

re: #430 MsJ

[Embedded content]
Repubs outspending Dems **17 to 1** to try to hold on to GOP control of a congressional seat where Trump won by 19 points.

I sent Lamb money:
https://conorlamb.com/

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 6, 2018 • 10:38:31am
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Mike Lamb  Feb 6, 2018 • 10:39:34am

re: #423 Stanley Sea

Another day I’m going to puke

[Embedded content]

Ya, they were (rightly) afraid of being put on a fucking list that could be exploited by the bigoted lunatics. What idiots!

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Mike Lamb  Feb 6, 2018 • 10:41:21am

re: #413 FormerDirtDart

[Embedded content]

If/when there is a scorecard of who in the Trump Administration did the most to hurt lower and middle income families/individuals, Mulvaney is going to be high the list. He’s such a piece of shit.

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ObserverArt  Feb 6, 2018 • 10:41:56am

re: #360 Lupin

I had once an exchange of emails with GG over a controversial topic, where nevertheless there were actual indisputable facts in evidence; after I “caught” him either ignoring said facts by mistake or on purpose, he would not retract his earlier statements and admit he was wrong. He ended up by delivering a series of ad hominem insults.

From this exchange I gathered that GG will never ever admit he might be wrong; even when confronted with factual evidence, he will not change his mind.

He was right once, around the time the Iraq War and the Bush/Cheney cabal, but since he is totally unable to update his thinking, and things have changed,a lot, since then, that inability has progressively driven him to the side of the Russians.

He is the perfect example of the “useful idiot.”

Wouldn’t he have to be useful to garner the name of useful idiot?

I have no use for him, that is for sure.

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Skip Intro  Feb 6, 2018 • 10:42:08am

re: #428 MsJ

Stunning article. It’s about damn time.

The cowardice among Republicans is staggering

washingtonpost.com

If copy sections of I could find one that stands out. Read the whole thing.

Lost me with this sentence.

“I believe Ryan to be a good person.”

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jaunte  Feb 6, 2018 • 10:44:15am

Imagine abandoning your humanity for five more years in the majority.

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Belafon  Feb 6, 2018 • 10:44:16am

re: #436 Skip Intro

Lost me with this sentence.

“I believe Ryan to be a good person.”

Don’t. Read it, and read the Atlantic article I linked to above. There are lots of people on the right that are seriously panicking over what the GOP is doing to the country, even to the point of telling people to vote Democratic.

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DodgerFan1988  Feb 6, 2018 • 10:44:23am
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FormerDirtDart  Feb 6, 2018 • 10:45:31am

Falcon Heavy Webcast When you start the player there’s a little notice in the corner stating it goes live at 3:10 PM Changed to 3:45 PM as I was typing

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Belafon  Feb 6, 2018 • 10:45:46am

re: #439 DodgerFan1988

Before anyone chimes in about schools failing now, that’s been the lesson in the South since about 1870.

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Skip Intro  Feb 6, 2018 • 10:46:54am

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 6, 2018 • 10:50:53am

re: #440 FormerDirtDart

Falcon Heavy Webcast When you start the player there’s a little notice in the corner stating it goes live at 3:10 PM Changed to 3:45 PM as I was typing

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jaunte  Feb 6, 2018 • 10:54:27am

“…White House spokesman Hogan Gidley [who is a liar] said Tuesday that President Trump [who is a liar] was being “tongue-in-cheek” with his comments accusing Democrats of “treasonous” behavior during his State of the Union address.”
thehill.com

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MsJ  Feb 6, 2018 • 10:55:40am

re: #436 Skip Intro

Lost me with this sentence.

“I believe Ryan to be a good person.”

He had to for all the cheerleading he did. He had to justify all this to himself especially Ryan’s behavior.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 6, 2018 • 10:58:55am
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ObserverArt  Feb 6, 2018 • 10:59:37am

re: #407 FormerDirtDart

Damn it.
I need to ride to the store, and put it off until the 1:30 launch…

[Embedded content]

I have the SpaceX streaming page open and they are showing 3:45 now. It has been moving later and later. I hope they can get that bird to fly today.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 6, 2018 • 11:00:17am
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FormerDirtDart  Feb 6, 2018 • 11:03:07am
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jaunte  Feb 6, 2018 • 11:04:15am

re: #449 FormerDirtDart

Longer than 3 bullet points.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 6, 2018 • 11:04:15am
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FormerDirtDart  Feb 6, 2018 • 11:06:12am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2018 • 11:06:32am

re: #444 jaunte

“…White House spokesman Hogan Gidley [who is a liar] said Tuesday that President Trump [who is a liar] was being “tongue-in-cheek” with his comments accusing Democrats of “treasonous” behavior during his State of the Union address.”
thehill.com

Yawn.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 6, 2018 • 11:06:42am

re: #437 jaunte

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 6, 2018 • 11:07:24am
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JordanRules  Feb 6, 2018 • 11:08:02am

re: #449 FormerDirtDart

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Belafon  Feb 6, 2018 • 11:08:03am

re: #455 Joe Bacon 🌹

If it worked, there would be no bald parents.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 6, 2018 • 11:09:26am

re: #444 jaunte

“…White House spokesman Hogan Gidley [who is a liar] said Tuesday that President Trump [who is a liar] was being “tongue-in-cheek” with his comments accusing Democrats of “treasonous” behavior during his State of the Union address.”
thehill.com

Tongue in cheek accusations of treason. They keep trying to rationalize this madman’s behavior.

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Mike Lamb  Feb 6, 2018 • 11:09:27am

re: #444 jaunte

“…White House spokesman Hogan Gidley [who is a liar] said Tuesday that President Trump [who is a liar] was being “tongue-in-cheek” with his comments accusing Democrats of “treasonous” behavior during his State of the Union address.”
thehill.com

McCain is total fraud on a number of levels, and he bears a HUGE amount of responsibility for getting to us where we are politically, but when that lady at his town hall said she thought Obama was a terrorist/Muslim, he nipped that shit in the bud with a quickness.

Trump hears someone in the audience reference the lack of applause as “treason”, jumps on it, and fans the flames even more. And even if the “treason” comment was a joke, what most certainly was not “tongue in cheek” was calling the Democrats’ lack of adulation and hero worship “Un-American”, which of course prompted the mouth-breather in the audience’s “treason” comment to begin with…

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MsJ  Feb 6, 2018 • 11:09:49am

re: #452 FormerDirtDart

That looks like something out of a movie set.

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ObserverArt  Feb 6, 2018 • 11:10:12am

Is it supposed to be some big revelation Trump is the great hope to keep America a White majority?

I thought that was clear as soon as Obama won his election.

Oh well…obvious is now more obvious, obviously.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 6, 2018 • 11:11:13am

re: #456 JordanRules

Dems should have made sure to dumb it down to 3 or 4 pages so people in the WH could understand it.

/

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MsJ  Feb 6, 2018 • 11:11:17am

re: #454 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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MsJ  Feb 6, 2018 • 11:12:25am

re: #461 ObserverArt

Is it supposed to be some big revelation Trump is the great hope to keep America a White majority?

I thought that was clear as soon as Obama won his election.

Oh well…obvious is now more obvious, obviously.

The Great White Dope.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 6, 2018 • 11:13:34am

re: #413 FormerDirtDart

Finally, MAGA by boosting the beleaguered Pay Day Loan Industry, who really are American Heroes.

///

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dangerman  Feb 6, 2018 • 11:15:32am

re: #454 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

[Embedded content]

Of course they do this because minorities tend to vote for Democrats. It never occurs to the Republicans that they could stop being racist, and eventually win the votes of Conservative minorities. Instead, they cling to racism as a core value, and try to whiten America.

See David brooks article last week Dems should give in on abortion etc to attract more people

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dangerman  Feb 6, 2018 • 11:16:22am

re: #455 Joe Bacon 🌹

[Embedded content]

You have to rub the fries on your head, not eat them

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 6, 2018 • 11:17:15am

re: #466 dangerman

See David brooks article last week Dems should give in on abortion etc to attract more people

That’s actually understandable from the perspective of someone who’s been brainwashed to conflate abortion with murdering babies. Conservatives don’t understand or accept women’s rights.

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Skip Intro  Feb 6, 2018 • 11:17:20am

re: #453 HappyWarrior

Yawn.

Pretty funny. Ha ha.

All presidents say things like that when giving speeches.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 6, 2018 • 11:17:34am

re: #467 dangerman

You have to rub the fries on your head, not eat them

Or wear them as a toupee.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 6, 2018 • 11:20:44am

re: #455 Joe Bacon 🌹

Ari Fleischer

@AriFleischer
It doesn’t work.



josephebacon 🌹
@josephebacon
It doesn’t work on people who sold their souls to Chthulhu like you have!
1:06 PM - Feb 6, 2018
See josephebacon 🌹’s other Tweets

I detest Ari Fleischer — but come on, his comment was actually cute and, unlike anything ever said by Mike Huckabee, funny and self-deprecating.

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dangerman  Feb 6, 2018 • 11:21:24am

re: #470 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Or wear them as a toupee.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 6, 2018 • 11:21:49am

re: #471 Hecuba’s daughter

I detest Ari Fleischer — but come on, his comment was actually cute and, unlike anything ever said by Mike Huckabee, funny and self-deprecating.

Yes, it’s the first thing from Ari I’ve clicked Like on.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 6, 2018 • 11:34:35am

re: #469 Skip Intro

Pretty funny. Ha ha.

All presidents say things like that when giving speeches.

“Anybody would have taken that meeting with the Russians promising dirt on Hillary.”

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 6, 2018 • 11:37:12am

re: #437 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Imagine abandoning your humanity for five more years in the majority.

That of course, is why they also want all undocumented immigrants deported and they want to deny citizenship to so-called “anchor babies.” Its ethnic cleansing.


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