And Now, a Stunning Live Jam From Julian Lage: “General Thunder”

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Julian Lage trio performs ‘General Thunder’ from Modern Lore, available now on Mack Avenue Records.

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Julian Lage - ‘General Thunder’
Julian Lage - Guitar
Scott Colley - Bass
Kenny Wollesen - Drums

Recorded live at Station Inn in Nashville, TN
Producer: Bucket’s Moving Company
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Director and Editor: Alex Chaloff
Camera Operators: Jeff Molyneaux, Jonathan Hagans and Alex Chaloff
Recorded Engineers: Tim Reitnouer and Alex Chaloff
Mix Engineer: Alex Chaloff

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362 comments
1
VegasGolfer  Feb 8, 2018 • 9:09:57pm

Under/Over 1000 pt loss in the stock market tomorrow?

2
Dave In Austin  Feb 8, 2018 • 9:12:56pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 8, 2018 • 9:13:20pm

Right now Hang Seng down 1000+ & Nikkei down 551. VIX is over 33. Potential for Dow to go down 1500 due to the shutdown.

And we know who FAUX News will blame—Obama!

4
Ace Rothstein  Feb 8, 2018 • 9:16:31pm

re: #1 VegasGolfer

Under/Over 1000 pt loss in the stock market tomorrow?

Under, but it’ll be bad.

5
jaunte  Feb 8, 2018 • 9:16:50pm

re: #2 Dave In Austin


mymodernmet.com
“…At Italy’s beaches, over 300 of these canines are on duty to protect the millions of people that visit during the summer. Each year, the Italian Coast Guard is able to save about 3,000 people with the help of their Newfoundland companions.”
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austin_blue  Feb 8, 2018 • 9:24:09pm

What the hell:

Kate Bush - Sat in Your Lap - Official Music Video

A little Kate Bush

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Doug Factors  Feb 8, 2018 • 9:26:04pm

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austin_blue  Feb 8, 2018 • 9:26:42pm

And what the hell, a little more:

Kate Bush - The Dreaming - Official Music Video

That’s pushing the envelope.

9
Dave In Austin  Feb 8, 2018 • 9:29:00pm

Comments….

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 8, 2018 • 9:29:15pm

The Honey Cone was wrong. One Monkey did stop the show…

The Honey Cone - One Monkey Don’t Stop No Show

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Dave In Austin  Feb 8, 2018 • 9:30:46pm

re: #5 jaunte

Big powerful swimmers. I would imagine a victim could darn near ride it back to shore.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 8, 2018 • 9:40:01pm

SlowDownScroll

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Feb 8, 2018 • 9:41:54pm

re: #9 Dave In Austin

Comments….

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hmm when democrats are back in power we can throw this quote in his face to nil effect goddam lying bastiges

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ckkatz  Feb 8, 2018 • 9:44:07pm

re: #12 Dave In Austin

Fatberg

I see that I learned yet another thing here…

15
DodgerFan1988  Feb 8, 2018 • 9:51:02pm
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Dave In Austin  Feb 8, 2018 • 9:55:19pm
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Dave In Austin  Feb 8, 2018 • 10:09:57pm
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FormerDirtDart  Feb 8, 2018 • 10:23:10pm
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retired cynic  Feb 8, 2018 • 10:28:43pm

re: #18 FormerDirtDart

Wonder what Rand-y got for being an ass, besides undying love of his compatriots? /

20
FormerDirtDart  Feb 8, 2018 • 10:31:53pm
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Single-handed sailor  Feb 8, 2018 • 10:42:31pm

Senate votes yes to 2 year budget, the bill now goes to the house where they will attempt to herd cockroaches.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 8, 2018 • 10:45:12pm
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Dave In Austin  Feb 8, 2018 • 10:45:37pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 8, 2018 • 10:48:51pm

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retired cynic  Feb 8, 2018 • 10:50:02pm

re: #24 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Unfair to Grannie!

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 8, 2018 • 10:51:05pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Feb 8, 2018 • 11:04:52pm

re: #23 Dave In Austin

For awhile there was this “mystery” of monkeys riding deer in Asia.

Turns out they were having sex with the deer.

Might be relevant, is all I’m sayin’.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 8, 2018 • 11:18:31pm

Mike Cernovich notes on his podcast he fears Alex Jones will be assassinated by the FBI for “reasons” (goes to Utah Outcasts, with clips from Cernovich)

Cernovich Fears Alex Jones’ Execution

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Dave In Austin  Feb 8, 2018 • 11:20:23pm

re: #27 The Ghost of a Flea

“Corgi and the pygmy pony over by the Dental Floss Bush…..”

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 8, 2018 • 11:20:58pm

re: #22 FormerDirtDart

Well, I see my junior Senator (Sasse) is fine with closing the government… .

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Dave In Austin  Feb 8, 2018 • 11:25:54pm

So who’s shut down is this now. Paul’s? Republican’s? It’s more like a hiccup and inconvenience than a shutdown. And how any idea of cost?

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The Ghost of a Flea  Feb 8, 2018 • 11:27:12pm

Suddenly I’m having all these vivid recollections of stuff complete with all the sensory and emotional detail.

Is “Proust” a condition that develops in middle age, or indicative of something that’s changed in my diet?

I’m either going to bed or hand-writing an excruciatingly personal letter with a fountain pen. Goodnight.

eta: In before the edit window to say…yup, it’s going to be that second one.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 8, 2018 • 11:30:43pm

re: #31 Dave In Austin

So who’s shut down is this now. Paul’s? Republican’s? It’s more like a hiccup and inconvenience than a shutdown. And how any idea of cost?

It’s still got to get through the House, then past the President.

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majii  Feb 8, 2018 • 11:31:58pm

re: #28 Anymouse 🌹

Re: Mike Cernovich

The poor soul craves attention so much that he’ll peddle any conspiracy theory whether it makes sense or not.
Q. Who wants an interaction of any sort with Jones anyway?
A. No one with good sense.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 8, 2018 • 11:37:55pm

Creeping shariah!!1ty!

Instagram

Oh snaps, way to go @lisamvogl and @veronacollection for changing the game for Muslim fashion! #muslimsoftheworld1 (I was friends with her before she was famous, just saying. Back when she was selling stuff at Isna convention hollaaa).

Macy’s will sell hijab.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 8, 2018 • 11:41:15pm

Squirrel!

Instagram

Featured Photo from the Fstoppers Community -
Title: Jump!
Photographer: Samuel Nugues
@samuelnugues
— “Red squirrel caught jumping.”
#fstoppers #Wildlife #animalphotography #wildlifephotography #squirrel #jump #action #leapoffaith
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37
Dr Lizardo  Feb 8, 2018 • 11:49:27pm

Meanwhile, at Fox News:

John Moody, an executive vice president and executive editor at Fox News, condemned the diversity of the U.S. Olympic team that will be marching in the opening ceremony of 2018 Winter Olympics in PyeongChang, South Korea in an op-ed published Wednesday on foxnews.com.

Moody alleges that the U.S. Olympic Committee would like to replace its modus operandi of pursuing victory with pursuing inclusion even at the cost of medals. “Unless it’s changed overnight,” Moody wrote, “the motto of the Olympics, since 1894, has been ‘Faster, Higher, Stronger.’” He continued, “It appears the U.S. Olympic Committee would like to change that to ‘Darker, Gayer, Different.’ If your goal is to win medals, that won’t work.”

salon.com

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retired cynic  Feb 8, 2018 • 11:51:47pm

re: #37 Dr Lizardo

Meanwhile, at Fox News:

salon.com

Someone deserves to have his nose rubbed in it hard.

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LastYearsMan  Feb 9, 2018 • 12:06:11am

re: #28 Anymouse 🌹

Mike Cernovich notes on his podcast he fears Alex Jones will be assassinated by the FBI for “reasons” (goes to Utah Outcasts, with clips from Cernovich)

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FBI? Jones is in far more danger of being killed by the LDL (cholesterol, that is).

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Feb 9, 2018 • 12:24:27am

hmmm so the budget passed in the senate w more democratic support than republican

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 9, 2018 • 12:43:04am

With America’s government crippled by Republicans, Canada is stepping up to fight against propaganda.

Trudeau to Facebook: Fix your fake news problem or face stricter regulations

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wheat-dogg  Feb 9, 2018 • 1:42:19am

re: #12 Dave In Austin

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The BBC sent a reporter into the London sewers to see a fatberg up close. She had to wear a hazmat suit.

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SteelPH  Feb 9, 2018 • 1:48:21am

re: #12 Dave In Austin

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They made Trump into a museum exhibit?
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Lupin  Feb 9, 2018 • 2:33:46am

re: #40 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

hmmm so the budget passed in the senate w more democratic support than republican

The degree of self-harming stupidity in the US is still an unending source of wonder. Like 40% of the electorate is still sawing a hole in the bottom of the boat in order to let out the water.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 9, 2018 • 2:47:35am
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jeffreyw  Feb 9, 2018 • 2:53:47am

Imgur


Good morning!

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The Major  Feb 9, 2018 • 2:53:49am

re: #34 majii
I’m thinking of paying a visit to some of the local silk-screen shops in town and see if they can work with athletic supporters….

Of course, we don’t want to leave women out, so I need ideas for sports bras…..

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Decatur Deb  Feb 9, 2018 • 3:00:14am

Off to get a roto-rooter job on my ureter and urethra.

Could be worse—I could be a Dreamer with kidney stones.

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I cannot.  Feb 9, 2018 • 3:05:23am

re: #48 Decatur Deb

Welp. I guess I didn’t need to eat that big of a breakfast anyway.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 9, 2018 • 3:05:49am

re: #41 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

With America’s government crippled by Republicans, Canada is stepping up to fight against propaganda.

Trudeau to Facebook: Fix your fake news problem or face stricter regulations

Good for Trudeau. Facebook should have fixed this problem after what happened to our elections in 2016.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 9, 2018 • 3:11:38am

re: #47 The Major

That’s one angry dick.

52
A Mom Anon  Feb 9, 2018 • 3:34:53am

re: #48 Decatur Deb

I hope you’re feeling better soon. How is Mrs. Deb doing? Sending hugs your way.

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Shropshire Slasher  Feb 9, 2018 • 4:03:29am

The Original Roto-Rooter Jingle (with full lyrics)

Sorry, I will go now

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Lupin  Feb 9, 2018 • 4:03:52am

re: #50 Patricia Kayden

Good for Trudeau. Facebook should have fixed this problem after what happened to our elections in 2016.

For the record, it’s not just YOUR elections. Brexit, Holland, France, Catalunia (that I know of) all had the same problem.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Feb 9, 2018 • 4:19:56am

re: #46 jeffreyw

Mourning doves, possibly the stupidest animal to ever exist, except sheep.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2018 • 4:34:21am

re: #45 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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Yeah it’s not like Bill Clinton got impeached for lying about an affair by people like Hastert, Gingrich, Livingston, & Hyde. I get that Lumpy misses the Clintons because he’s feeling the pressure of constantly defending Trump but good God get over them.

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jeffreyw  Feb 9, 2018 • 4:42:22am

YouTube

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ObserverArt  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:02:20am

Morning!

So, I hear we have a two-year budget deal. Amazing. It gets the GOP past the midterms and sets the stage for some politicking in 2020. Imagine that.

And, it is my understanding the Senate opens talks on DACA/Immigration on Monday. Okay Mitch…you have your open government…time for you to stick to your word.

Hmmm. Why do I not believe in Mitch’s word? Or, maybe Mitch can do his part because he will be protected by Paulie in then House where the real mess is going to be.

That means a lot of this is up to Trump.

Argh. Maybe I should just crawl back in bed…

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wheat-dogg  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:15:57am

re: #53 Shropshire Slasher

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Sorry, I will go now

That tune, and the jingle for Castro Convertibles, have been embedded in my memory since childhood. I didn’t even need to play the video.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:18:39am

So. The Midwest snowstorm is the real deal. Here in north suburban Chicago we have a bunch. Street hasn’t even been plowed and it’s more than halfway up the mailbox pole.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:22:16am

re: #60 GlutenFreeJesus

So. The Midwest snowstorm is the real deal. Here in north suburban Chicago we have a bunch. Street hasn’t even been plowed and it’s more than halfway up the mailbox pole.

My daughter in Iowa said they were expecting 4-6 inches. But that was a few hours ago.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:28:29am

re: #61 wheat-dogg

That’s all? ;)

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Dr. Matt  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:32:18am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:33:03am

re: #47 The Major

I’m thinking of paying a visit to some of the local silk-screen shops in town and see if they can work with athletic supporters….

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Of course, we don’t want to leave women out, so I need ideas for sports bras…..

Mikey will buy a dozen of them!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:33:57am

re: #45 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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Belafon  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:36:05am
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Dr. Matt  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:38:09am

He’s retweeting Nazi propaganda and the government is still shutdown.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:39:16am

re: #67 Dr. Matt

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He’s retweeting Nazi propaganda and the government is still shutdown.

Typical RW propaganda.

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Shropshire Slasher  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:39:17am
An Alabama man allegedly beat his roommate after discovering that the victim had failed to properly seal a box of Cap’n Crunch cereal, which had gone stale, police report.

Duane Barry Smith, 52, was arrested Friday for domestic violence following a confrontation with the man he shares a residence in Moundville, a town outside Tuscaloosa.

According to police, the victim said that Smith became upset upon discovering the stale cereal and blamed him for failing to keep the Cap’n Crunch fresh. Smith was especially perturbed since he is missing teeth and had difficulty consuming the stale cereal

thesmokinggun.com

Milk (Ode To Billy)

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:40:17am

Would be nice if President Putinpuppet stopped playing with his ding dong while watching Faux and Fiends and sign the bill so my fellow Federal workers and I can get paid…

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:43:06am

We’re led by a POTUS whose views and policy are shaped by Fox News. God help us.

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Mike Lamb  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:43:10am

re: #37 Dr Lizardo

Meanwhile, at Fox News:

salon.com

This guy still hates the fact that the Dodgers signed Jackie Robinson…

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:50:29am

re: #72 Mike Lamb

This guy still hates the fact that the Dodgers signed Jackie Robinson…

Basketball goals? I guess Moody has been talking about sports with Ted Cruz. It’s such a stupid article. There’s nothing wrong with championing diversity in an effort to encourage more kids to play. And of course Moody whines about participation trophies too because you know we millennials can’t go a day without them.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:52:01am

When’s the deadline for the Schiff memo? I wonder if he’s forgotten. My recollection is that he has to take some action or else it is automatically made public after five days.

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Belafon  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:52:35am

re: #71 HappyWarrior

We’re led by a POTUS whose views and policy are shaped by Fox News. God help us.

God doesn’t protect us from ourselves.

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Belafon  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:53:32am

re: #73 HappyWarrior

Basketball goals? I guess Moody has been talking about sports with Ted Cruz. It’s such a stupid article. There’s nothing wrong with championing diversity in an effort to encourage more kids to play. And of course Moody whines about participation trophies too because you know we millennials can’t go a day without them.

“Why are all of those lazy blacks playing football and basketball?”

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:53:45am

re: #75 Belafon

God doesn’t protect us from ourselves.

True. Man it’s just madness.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:54:28am

OK, Tweetler signed the bill. Now my fellow employees and I can hopefully have a little relief...until the staff cuts start rolling down the pike…

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Dr. Matt  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:55:44am

re: #72 Mike Lamb

This guy still hates the fact that the Dodgers signed Jackie Robinson…

And he believes brown people can’t skate and play golf.

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Belafon  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:01:50am
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Weaselone  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:12:05am

re: #80 Belafon

I really hope he didn’t just figure this out.

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JordanRules  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:15:35am

re: #75 Belafon

God doesn’t protect us from ourselves.

Says who?
Believers have a lot of different versions.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:15:40am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:18:30am

re: #83 Barefoot Grin

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He’s a strange, little man just like his Dad.

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JordanRules  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:22:01am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:23:01am

re: #85 JordanRules

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Trump is always fucking pissed because he’s an impotent manbaby.

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dangerman  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:24:43am

re: #37 Dr Lizardo

Meanwhile, at Fox News:

salon.com
Darker, Gayer, Different.’ If your goal is to win medals, that won’t work.”

It will if they are the fastest highest and strongest

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JordanRules  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:25:22am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:25:51am

re: #87 dangerman

It will if they are the fastest highest and strongest

One thing’s for sure. I don’t want to see this guy celebrating our medal winners when they win if this is going to be his shitty attitude towards our team.

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dangerman  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:26:47am

re: #45 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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Clintons, for decades, are used to having a different standard of justice applied to them

Translation:
After countless investigations we still haven’t found anything

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dangerman  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:30:17am

re: #69 Shropshire Slasher

thesmokinggun.com

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So whadaya buying capn crunch for.
It stays crunchy even in milk

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Belafon  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:30:55am

re: #87 dangerman

It will if they are the fastest highest and strongest

He was just as shocked at Jesse Owens’ wins as Hitler was.

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Jay C  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:33:50am

re: #87 dangerman

It will if they are the fastest highest and strongest

Yeah, maybe he thinks , rather than just picking “diverse” teams, there should be some sort of, y’know, process for selecting Olympic athletes, like maybe having them try out, see how they perform, test them against the prevailing standards, or….

Oh, wait….

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Belafon  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:33:58am

re: #88 JordanRules

Sorry, but this is not a new thing. Remember when GM basically claimed to be the US economy: “What’s good for GM is good for America”? Heads of big companies have been meeting with government leaders since forever.

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Belafon  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:34:36am

re: #93 Jay C

Yeah, maybe he thinks , rather than just picking “diverse” teams, there should be some sort of, y’know, process for selecting Olympic athletes, like maybe having them try out, see how they perform, test them against the prevailing standards, or….

Oh, wait….

Maybe we should have something like that to determine who gets to be an American citizen.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:35:19am

re: #93 Jay C

Yeah, maybe he thinks , rather than just picking “diverse” teams, there should be some sort of, y’know, process for selecting Olympic athletes, like maybe having them try out, see how they perform, test them against the prevailing standards, or….

Oh, wait….

It’s like he thinks the team was just chosen because of diversity. These are obviously top athletes and they also happen to be the most diverse winter team we’ve fielded. How fucking simple is that? Oh wait, he works for FNC where everything has to be a whinefest about how hard it is being a bitter, old white guy in this America.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:37:30am

re: #85 JordanRules

She’s dating Porter so of course she’s still defending him. The White House has become Peyton Place.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:37:35am

He’s ignorant as hell about basketball too. Not just the basketball goal comment but the comment about whites in basketball. One of the most sought out NBA free agents was a white guy named Gordon Heyward. Dirk Notwitzki is still going strong at 39, etc.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:40:41am

re: #69 Shropshire Slasher

Wow. I get the frustration but it’s amazing what causes people to turn violent. Just buy another box, Dude.

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JordanRules  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:41:37am

re: #94 Belafon

Very true. I think it’s alarming to this Canadian gentleman cause Amazon isn’t a Canadian company.

But your point is made here too:

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:46:02am

I always found it amusing that people who fret often about government power don’t say much at all about corporate power. I mean yeah too much government power can definitely be a problem but I worry about unchecked corporate power far more and here’s why, they’re not accountable to anyone but themselves. We at least elect our elected officials who make appointments.

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Interesting Times  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:46:24am

re: #100 JordanRules

Very true. I think it’s alarming to this Canadian gentleman cause Amazon isn’t a Canadian company.

But your point is made here too:

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And of course the ultimate corporatation-as-nation-state-and-colonial-power:

The East India Company was a private company owned by stockholders and reporting to a board of directors in London. Originally formed as a monopoly on trade, it increasingly took on governmental powers with its own army and judiciary. It seldom turned a profit, as employees diverted funds into their own pockets. The British government had little control, and there was increasing anger at the corruption and irresponsibility of Company officials or “nabobs” who made vast fortunes in a few years.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:46:56am

re: #100 JordanRules

Very true. I think it’s alarming to this Canadian gentleman cause Amazon isn’t a Canadian company.

But your point is made here too:

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It was only after a genocidal slaughter in the Sepoy Mutiny that the British government finally stepped in to take direct control of India from the British East India Company.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:47:24am

re: #102 Interesting Times

And of course the ultimate corporatation-as-nation-state-and-colonial-power:

Beat me by a second or two.

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Belafon  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:48:50am

re: #102 Interesting Times

It seldom turned a profit, as employees diverted funds into their own pockets.

Sounds like a lot of corporations today.

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Jay C  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:48:54am

re: #96 HappyWarrior

It’s like he thinks the team was just chosen because of diversity. These are obviously top athletes and they also happen to be the most diverse winter team we’ve fielded. How fucking simple is that? Oh wait, he works for FNC where everything has to be a whinefest about how hard it is being a bitter, old white guy in this America.

What makes Moody’s rant even stupider (if possible) are some figures buried down in the article: even though the PyeongChang US team really IS the most “diverse” we’ve fielded, there are still just 10 black and 10 Asian athletes on a team of 242. His main pissoff seems to that USOC officials even mentioned “diversity” as a point of pride. Dumbass.

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Belafon  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:52:31am

re: #106 Jay C

Why are blacks overrepresented in basketball and football, and underrepresented in most other sports? Because the barrier for entry and the cost to participate in the first two is lower than the others. Considering that 10/242 is smaller than the fraction of African Americans in the general population, most of the Olympic sports are way too costly just to jump into.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:54:57am

re: #107 Belafon

Why are blacks overrepresented in basketball and football, and underrepresented in most other sports? Because the barrier for entry and the cost to participate in the first two is lower than the others. Considering that 10/242 is smaller than the fraction of African Americans in the general population, most of the Olympic sports are way too costly just to jump into.

Absolutely.

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JordanRules  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:55:27am

It IS Friday right??

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Shropshire Slasher  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:58:46am

re: #109 JordanRules

You made me do this:

Friday - Rebecca Black - Official Music Video

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Belafon  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:01:08am

re: #110 Shropshire Slasher

You made me do this:

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You get an upding for doing something particularly outlandish. But I only had one left. My outlandish upding bucket is now empty.

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Shropshire Slasher  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:02:25am

re: #111 Belafon

You made me smile and laugh out loud. Updings all around!

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makeitstop  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:05:28am

re: #110 Shropshire Slasher

You made me do this:

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To which I always respond…

“Gang Fight” — Rebecca Black, as interpreted by a bad lip reader

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JordanRules  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:06:14am

re: #111 Belafon

Risky burning it so early in the day!

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makeitstop  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:16:00am

Rebecca Black kilt the thread.

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allegro  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:20:45am

Good morning! Wow, it’s been a while since I’ve seen this time of day from this side of my eyeballs. I’ve had my days and nights turned around for some time now. Woke up feeling a PLINK! of something off my nose. It was a little black kitty dropping a balled up piece of paper on it to get me up to play fetch with her. The dangers of giving infant kittens to a dog person to raise.

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The Major  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:28:59am

re: #102 Interesting Times

Has everybody forgotten one of the best goddam movie rants of all time given by Ned Beatty?

“The World Is a Business, Mr. Beale”

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dangerman  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:31:23am

re: #95 Belafon

Maybe we should have something like that to determine who gets to be an American citizen president.

just musing here

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:31:42am

so much bullshit

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:32:44am
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plansbandc  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:34:42am

My favorite version of Friday:

Stephen Colbert Sings Friday with Jimmy Fallon HD

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Shropshire Slasher  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:37:16am

We better clean this place up before Charles wakes up.

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Belafon  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:38:04am

I’ve been thinking about Nancy Pelosi’s stand on the floor a couple of days ago, and the argument that it’s time for the older generation to move aside for the younger ones. I’m a Gen Xer, so I fall kind of in the middle, but her stand made me realize the answer to that challenge. And the answer is this: If the younger generation wants to become the new leaders, then they need to fight at least as hard as those like Clinton, Pelosi, Schumer, etc. Handing it to you without you earning it really is a participation trophy, and will only hurt Democrats and the country.

Now, my generation kind of sucked at it, except for Obama, Lieu, and a few others. And the new generation was trying to skate by - everyone else will take care of it - until Obama Trump came along. So, I think we might start finding our next generation of leaders. But they’ll earn it.

Edit: Got the name wrong near the end.

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dangerman  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:38:27am

re: #110 Shropshire Slasher

You made me do this:

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Video

when i new year’s resolved to watch every (music) video posted that i could, i was young, naive and had no idea what i was in for

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Belafon  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:39:43am

re: #122 Shropshire Slasher

We better clean this place up before Charles wakes up.

Post some Nickleback. Charles loves them.

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ObserverArt  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:40:28am

re: #89 HappyWarrior

One thing’s for sure. I don’t want to see this guy celebrating our medal winners when they win if this is going to be his shitty attitude towards our team.

Why am I thinking of Adolph’s reaction when Jesse Owens spoiled the show at The Olympics in Berlin.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:40:28am

greetings from far north. buddy invited me out to join him on a mini-tour of Finland, three gigs this weekend. enough time for saunas and cross-country skiing in between.

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dangerman  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:40:56am

re: #124 dangerman

re: #113 makeitstop

To which I always respond…

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Video

then i scroll down and gotta do this…

alas, i never get any work done

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plansbandc  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:41:14am

re: #125 Belafon

Better yet, some Taylor Swift.

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ObserverArt  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:41:33am

re: #92 Belafon

He was just as shocked at Jesse Owens’ wins as Hitler was.

Well, I shoulda read down the thread. : )

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ObserverArt  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:43:00am

re: #94 Belafon

Sorry, but this is not a new thing. Remember when GM basically claimed to be the US economy: “What’s good for GM is good for America”? Heads of big companies have been meeting with government leaders since forever.

And remember what happened with GM having that attitude?

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dangerman  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:44:07am

re: #119 Backwoods_Sleuth

so much bullshit

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“Just signed Bill. Our Military will now be stronger than ever before” sounds like he personally just recruited Bill for basic training

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plansbandc  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:46:01am

Here’s a palate cleanser. New single from L7.

L7 - I Came Back To Bitch (Official Video)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:47:18am

re: #131 ObserverArt

And remember what happened with GM having that attitude?

they are Too Big to Fail

which, by all rights means they are too big to be unregulated

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ObserverArt  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:47:22am

re: #97 Patricia Kayden

She’s dating Porter so of course she’s still defending him. The White House has become Peyton Place.

Which brings the question of why?

Is it the old “bad boy” you are gonna change because he loves you?

Hope seems very naive. She is going to be paying for it too…maybe forever. She is young enough to get out of all this and think about what she is doing and her future.

But will she?

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dangerman  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:47:23am

re: #121 plansbandc

My favorite version of Friday:

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Video

guys i really gotta do some work

and who wrote this monstrosity?
is/was it popular?
(i’m old(er))

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:47:41am

And what do you guess Baby Whiplash thinks is the real “driver of the debt”? Yes it’s MEDICARE & SOCIAL SECURITY!!

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allegro  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:49:21am

re: #135 ObserverArt

Which brings the question of why?

Is it the old “bad boy” you are gonna change because he loves you?

Hope seems very naive. She is going to be paying for it too…maybe forever. She is young enough to get out of all this and think about what she is doing and her future.

But will she?

Not any time soon with her addiction to abusive men.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:50:00am

re: #137 The Vicious Babushka

And what do you guess Baby Whiplash thinks is the real “driver of the debt”? Yes it’s MEDICARE & SOCIAL SECURITY!!

[Embedded content]

Yawn Ben. Go fuck yourself, you big brat.

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makeitstop  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:50:12am

re: #133 plansbandc

Here’s a palate cleanser. New single from L7.

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Video

Wow. Almost like they never left! Badass women, still badass.

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ObserverArt  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:50:53am

re: #110 Shropshire Slasher

You made me do this:

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No one makes anyone do that!

I don’t downding…but you made my mouse think about clicking on it!

Grrrrrrr. : )

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:51:02am

No one talks about medicare or social security driving the debt? Funny because I have to hear about conservatievs like Shapiro refusing to even consider cutting the military all the fucking time while they want to screw poor and elderly people.

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dangerman  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:52:00am

re: #123 Belafon

I’ve been thinking about Nancy Pelosi’s stand on the floor a couple of days ago, and the argument that it’s time for the older generation to move aside for the younger ones. I’m a Gen Xer, so I fall kind of in the middle, but her stand made me realize the answer to that challenge. And the answer is this: If the younger generation wants to become the new leaders, then they need to fight at least as hard as those like Clinton, Pelosi, Schumer, etc. Handing it to you without you earning it really is a participation trophy, and will only hurt Democrats and the country.

Now, my generation kind of sucked at it, except for Obama, Lieu, and a few others. And the new generation was trying to skate by - everyone else will take care of it - until Obama came along. So, I think we might start finding our next generation of leaders. But they’ll earn it.

virtually nothing stops anyone from entering politics.
to be effective you have to be patient, learn the dynamics, yeah even pay some dues.
to be a leader, you generally have to demonstrate leadership as you rise through the ranks so that eventually your colleagues (or the voters) will vote for you

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plansbandc  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:52:28am

re: #140 makeitstop

I LOVE them!! First thing I gave dude was an L7 shirt.

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Eventual Carrion  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:54:33am

re: #107 Belafon

Why are blacks overrepresented in basketball and football, and underrepresented in most other sports? Because the barrier for entry and the cost to participate in the first two is lower than the others. Considering that 10/242 is smaller than the fraction of African Americans in the general population, most of the Olympic sports are way too costly just to jump into.

I heard a member of the Jamaican women’s bobsled team make a statement kinda like that on NPR this morning while coming to work. Just the cost of equipment for some of these sports is astronomical for someone of limited means to participate.

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Shropshire Slasher  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:55:10am

re: #133 plansbandc

We really need to clean this place up!

Ylvis - The Fox [Official music video HD]

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Belafon  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:56:26am

re: #146 Shropshire Slasher

We really need to clean this place up!

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OK, now you’re starting to go too far.

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dangerman  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:56:39am

re: #142 HappyWarrior

No one talks about medicare or social security driving the debt? Funny because I have to hear about conservatievs like Shapiro refusing to even consider cutting the military all the fucking time while they want to screw poor and elderly people.

further, we pay specific taxes for ss and medicare. granted actuarially they may not be covering. still it’s mostly “our” money

there is no specific “military tax”. the military isnt entitled to anything

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makeitstop  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:56:43am

re: #136 dangerman

guys i really gotta do some work

and who wrote this monstrosity?
is/was it popular?
(i’m old(er))

Th guy rapping in the car is named Patrice Wilson, a music producer with a company called Ark Music (or something like that). Wilson would snag kids with budget money and write them songs and produce videos for them.

While ‘Friday’ was pretty vapid, the followup from Ark made it sounds like Beethoven’s Fifth.

Alison Gold Chinese Food Official Music Video

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:56:54am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:59:11am

re: #145 Eventual Carrion

I heard a member of the Jamaican women’s bobsled team make a statement kinda like that on NPR this morning while coming to work. Just the cost of equipment for some of these sports is astronomical for someone of limited means to participate.

I remember this being brought up when Palin tried to make hockey this blue collar sport. Hockey’s always been of the five main sports kids play- baseball, basketball, hockey, football, and soccer the most expensive. We always liked football and basketball most for pick up games when we were kids because we didn’t really need much to play.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:59:45am

re: #150 Backwoods_Sleuth

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There Lindsay goes making me think that Rand Paul may be somewhat being the adult here.

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ObserverArt  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:00:14am

re: #136 dangerman

guys i really gotta do some work

and who wrote this monstrosity?
is/was it popular?
(i’m old(er))

It was popular for its badness.

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dangerman  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:00:52am

re: #149 makeitstop

Th guy rapping in the car is named Patrice Wilson, a music producer with a company called Ark Music (or something like that). Wilson would snag kids with budget money and write them songs and produce videos for them.

While ‘Friday’ was pretty vapid, the followup from Ark made it sounds like Beethoven’s Fifth.

[Embedded content]

Video

oh this is gonna be a long year for me.
next new year’s resolution i’ll just lose weight

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allegro  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:02:00am

re: #145 Eventual Carrion

I heard a member of the Jamaican women’s bobsled team make a statement kinda like that on NPR this morning while coming to work. Just the cost of equipment for some of these sports is astronomical for someone of limited means to participate.

I would think the cost of snow in Jamaica to practice bobsledding is astronomical.

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dangerman  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:02:04am

re: #153 ObserverArt

It was popular for its badness.

yeah im seeing that

it’s “plan 9 from outer space” for music

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:02:55am

re: #155 allegro

I would think the cost of snow in Jamaica to practice bobsledding is astronomical.

cheaper to go someplace cold

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Targetpractice  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:04:56am

re: #137 The Vicious Babushka

And what do you guess Baby Whiplash thinks is the real “driver of the debt”? Yes it’s MEDICARE & SOCIAL SECURITY!!

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Right, meanwhile the DoD still hasn’t fulfilled a mandate from years ago to get their budget “audit-ready,” admitting the other day that they can’t account for where $800 million went.

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Shropshire Slasher  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:05:30am

re: #155 allegro

Bobsledding is easy, you just pick the heaviest people that can fit in the sled.

#knowsnothingofphysics

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:06:44am

On September 10, 2001, then Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld launched a “War on Bureaucracy” in the military. Just look on those $800 million in casualties of that campaign.

Things you know you don’t know where they are…

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makeitstop  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:07:39am

re: #154 dangerman

oh this is gonna be a long year for me.
next new year’s resolution i’ll just lose weight

I apologize for the Alison Gold video. Here’s something to make up for it.

The Wildhearts - The New Flesh

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Targetpractice  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:12:44am

Imagine that for a moment. Imagine if the Social Security Administration came out tomorrow and announced “We can’t account for $800 million, it just disappeared into the aether and we have no way to track down who spent it or where.” The story would dominate the entire media, the GOP would announce immediate hearings, and millions of Americans would demand an accounting to the penny of that entire $800 million.

But the DoD shrugs their shoulders and says “Fuck if we know” and we just accept it as part of the “price” of defending the nation.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:12:56am

The markets are on a rollercoaster today. finance.yahoo.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:13:35am
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Belafon  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:14:45am

re: #164 Backwoods_Sleuth

Was Stormy Daniels involved?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:15:16am
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allegro  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:16:08am

Whoa. Flipped on the teevee and The View came on in the midst of an altercation between Joy Behar and Meghan McCain. Intense. Started with McCain talking about how offended she was with the way they were discussing the Porter issue as if they were putting down the abused wives (they weren’t at all, she was just trying to change the subject from Kelly supporting Porter) and then Behar said she was offended by Republicans. Got real about then.

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Jay C  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:16:09am

re: #119 Backwoods_Sleuth

so much bullshit

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Yeah, but it inadvertently (and I’m guessing that, as with most things Trump, it’s inadvertent) gave away one of those dirty little secrets that most politicos don’t want let out: that all those JOBS JOBS JOBS!!!! he’s gibbering about are basically government make-work to a large extent, and paid for (in large part directly) from the taxpayers’ pockets. But of course, since the military (and especially its budget) is the most hallowed of sacred cows in DC, we don’t hear/see much discussion…..

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:17:41am

oh…

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sagehen  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:17:46am

re: #73 HappyWarrior

Basketball goals? I guess Moody has been talking about sports with Ted Cruz. It’s such a stupid article. There’s nothing wrong with championing diversity in an effort to encourage more kids to play. And of course Moody whines about participation trophies too because you know we millennials can’t go a day without them.

if country clubs were still restricted and we didn’t have public courts and courses, there wouldn’t have been Tiger Woods and Serena Williams

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allegro  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:17:51am

re: #166 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The same coal sector Perry is trying to give lots of $ to?

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Targetpractice  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:18:59am

re: #169 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh…

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Ah, the dull, flat eyes of a Stepford Wife.

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Targetpractice  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:20:03am

re: #167 allegro

Whoa. Flipped on the teevee and The View came on in the midst of an altercation between Joy Behar and Meghan McCain. Intense. Started with McCain talking about how offended she was with the way they were discussing the Porter issue as if they were putting down the abused wives (they weren’t at all, she was just trying to change the subject from Kelly supporting Porter) and then Behar said she was offended by Republicans. Got real about then.

Apparently the tactic that the wingnuts have settled on is to defend Porter by-proxy by faking “concern” for the ex-wives and wanting the media to drop the story by “leaving them alone.”

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ObserverArt  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:20:38am

re: #169 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh…

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I won’t support Mike DeWine(r) either.

Or Mary Taylor.

Let’s go Dems…Richard Cordray all the way.

(I hope an inner GOP pissing match such as this turns GOP voters off from voting)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:21:24am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:21:57am

re: #175 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I’m pleasantly surprised at Rubio doing that.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:24:00am

re: #173 Targetpractice

But that doesn’t work in light of the fact that it was the ex-wives going to the media which brought this issue to the fore. Ignoring what Porter did would be an insult to the ex-wives and their courage for speaking out about their domestic violence experience.

Can’t wait until McCain leaves The View. She’s a Republican hack and adds nothing if value to that show. She needs to go back to Fox News.

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wrenchwench  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:24:04am

re: #172 Targetpractice

Ah, the dull, flat eyes of a Stepford Wife.

Stepford wives are people too!

/except in the original versions. Read the book, didn’t see the movie.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:24:46am
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sagehen  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:25:20am

re: #111 Belafon

You get an upding for doing something particularly outlandish. But I only had one left. My outlandish upding bucket is now empty.

I can do worse.

go see cal

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Mike Lamb  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:25:44am

re: #137 The Vicious Babushka

And what do you guess Baby Whiplash thinks is the real “driver of the debt”? Yes it’s MEDICARE & SOCIAL SECURITY!!

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And this guy is treated as a serious thinker.

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allegro  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:27:26am

re: #173 Targetpractice

Apparently the tactic that the wingnuts have settled on is to defend Porter by-proxy by faking “concern” for the ex-wives and wanting the media to drop the story by “leaving them alone.”

Ah. So that’s where that came from. It was so left field and nonsensical within the context of the conversation it had me scratching my head.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:28:54am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:30:40am

re: #166 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Way to go gullible miners.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:31:21am

re: #183 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Because Fox and Friends tells him he’s great and the best thing to ever happen to this country. Puke.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:32:08am

all together now: “awwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!!!!!!!”

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MsJ  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:32:32am

re: #94 Belafon

Sorry, but this is not a new thing. Remember when GM basically claimed to be the US economy: “What’s good for GM is good for America”? Heads of big companies have been meeting with government leaders since forever.

This is a complete nothingburger. There is an amazon.ca site and I am sure that both Canada and Bezos wants to make it what it can be for Canadians (e.g., a lot of ability to sell Canadian goods, expanding things like Prime, music, video, etc., without putting Canadian businesses out of business). Retail is failing all over the place. That’s a lot of (shitty) jobs at stake. But a job is a job sometimes.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:34:29am

re: #186 Backwoods_Sleuth

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all together now: “awwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!!!!!!!”

When you’re so supreme that you can’t even find counsel.

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nines09  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:34:35am

re: #183 Backwoods_Sleuth

They should get a set that looks like F**ked And Friend, find people who look like those insects, and have it shown to Diaper Boy via closed circuit. And use small words.

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sagehen  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:34:41am

re: #162 Targetpractice

Imagine that for a moment. Imagine if the Social Security Administration came out tomorrow and announced “We can’t account for $800 million, it just disappeared into the aether and we have no way to track down who spent it or where.” The story would dominate the entire media, the GOP would announce immediate hearings, and millions of Americans would demand an accounting to the penny of that entire $800 million.

But the DoD shrugs their shoulders and says “Fuck if we know” and we just accept it as part of the “price” of defending the nation.

They know where it went; they just don’t want to admit out loud it was bribes to local warlords if/when our military operations are in countries without strong central governments.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:37:42am

re: #186 Backwoods_Sleuth

So why doesn’t he do what these other nutjobs do and represent himself?

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ObserverArt  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:39:02am

re: #186 Backwoods_Sleuth

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all together now: “awwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!!!!!!!”

Can I go with a big “fffffffuuuuuuccccckkkkkkkyyyyyyooooooouuuuu!”

I think the lawyers did.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:39:06am
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wrenchwench  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:39:52am

re: #180 sagehen

I can do worse.

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OK, now I’m ready for a jacket with two pair of pants.

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Belafon  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:40:17am

re: #186 Backwoods_Sleuth

all together now: “awwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!!!!!!!”

In a regular time, a lawyer would represent him specifically because it’s about upholding the law, not about the particular client. But all those assholes have made it about protecting whites, not the law, so screw ‘em.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:40:34am

re: #191 Eclectic Cyborg

So why doesn’t he do what these other nutjobs do and represent himself?

Probably is smart enough to know he’d fuck himself and the other Nutzis.

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KGxvi  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:40:39am

re: #184 HappyWarrior

Way to go gullible miners.

I’m not really sure they’re gullible. Trump’s policies are in their (short term) self-interest. Human nature is to prioritize short term interests, it’s an evolutionary trait that kept us alive before civilization.

A smart politician (yes, an inherent contradiction) would be working to get new energy industry jobs in places where the coal mines used to be.

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MsJ  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:41:10am

re: #163 Dr. Matt

The markets are on a rollercoaster today. finance.yahoo.com

It’s up now. I think the “uncertainty” of a government shutdown was an unhappy disruption. I don’t know if it will climb back to 26k but it looks positive at the moment.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:41:23am

re: #197 KGxvi

I’m not really sure they’re gullible. Trump’s policies are in their (short term) self-interest. Human nature is to prioritize short term interests, it’s an evolutionary trait that kept us alive before civilization.

A smart politician (yes, an inherent contradiction) would be working to get new energy industry jobs in places where the coal mines used to be.

True.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:41:49am

re: #193 Backwoods_Sleuth

Great, more insane memos…

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MsJ  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:45:47am

re: #186 Backwoods_Sleuth

all together now: “awwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!!!!!!!”

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:46:52am
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Belafon  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:47:14am

re: #195 Belafon

In a regular time, a lawyer would represent him specifically because it’s about upholding the law, not about the particular client. But all those assholes have made it about protecting whites, not the law, so screw ‘em.

Having said that, hopefully he’ll get a court appointed council from here in Texas.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:48:34am

JFC…stupid drivers are morons.

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dangerman  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:49:05am

re: #181 Mike Lamb

And this guy is treated as a serious thinker.

No. No he’s not

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:49:29am

re: #85 JordanRules

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The difficulty with firing Kelly is who the hell would want that job? Trump may end up having no CoS at all, and just a three ring circus, not that it isn’t close to being one now.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:50:11am

re: #206 Big Beautiful Door

The difficulty with firing Kelly is who the hell would want that job? Trump may end up having no CoS at all, and just a three ring circus, not that it isn’t close to being one now.

Ivanka or Jared?

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Ace-o-aces  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:50:48am

re: #12 Dave In Austin

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Ace-o-aces  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:52:37am
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dangerman  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:54:06am

re: #206 Big Beautiful Door

The difficulty with firing Kelly is who the hell would want that job? Trump may end up having no CoS at all, and just a three ring circus, not that it isn’t close to being one now.

Still not a reason to keep someone

And further it’s not the job. I’d guess a lot of people would want to be white house cos. It’s the boss and the working environment.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:54:36am

So much for “We only have a problem with ILLEGAL immigrants.”…

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KGxvi  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:54:38am

re: #206 Big Beautiful Door

The difficulty with firing Kelly is who the hell would want that job? Trump may end up having no CoS at all, and just a three ring circus, not that it isn’t close to being one now.

It’s rather crazy to say this, but Trump not having a Chief of Staff might be best case scenario for the country. The more untenable a reckless and incompetent White House becomes, the more likely it would be to see more Congressional Republicans turn against Trump. Alternatively, that kind of mess in the White House would probably boost Democratic chances for taking back Congress in November.

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:55:05am

re: #207 HappyWarrior

Ivanka or Jared?

The Mooch?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:58:16am

re: #211 GlutenFreeJesus

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So much for “We only have a problem with ILLEGAL immigrants.”…

Higher number yes but a lower percentage and stfu about elites Trustfund Tucker.

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Belafon  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:58:36am

re: #211 GlutenFreeJesus

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So much for “We only have a problem with ILLEGAL immigrants.”…

I’m pretty sure there have been other times when there were more immigrants. I’m really sure there’ve been times when there’s been a higher percentage of immigrants.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:58:54am

re: #213 Ace Rothstein

The Mooch?

I was out of country during Mooch 1.0 so yeah I wouldn’t mind.

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ObserverArt  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:59:32am

VB, I hope you don’t mind, but I did a little work on your jewelry image. I thought I could bring out the colors a bit more for you.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:00:06am

re: #215 Belafon

I’m pretty sure there have been other times when there were more immigrants. I’m really sure there’ve been times when there’s been a higher percentage of immigrants.

Definitely a higher percentage. I’m glad Tucker isn’t even hiding that he’s a nativist pos.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:00:22am

re: #137 The Vicious Babushka

And what do you guess Baby Whiplash thinks is the real “driver of the debt”? Yes it’s MEDICARE & SOCIAL SECURITY!!

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Except Social Security and Medicare have dedicated revenue from payroll taxes funding them, while the increased military spending is entirely borrowed money, you blithering idiot.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:01:08am

re: #219 Big Beautiful Door

Except Social Security and Medicare have dedicated revenue from payroll taxes funding them, while the increased military spending is entirely borrowed money, you blithering idiot.

Can’t expect a guy who made his chops on Breitbart to care about facts.

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KGxvi  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:01:20am

re: #211 GlutenFreeJesus

Per a bit of google-fu, the US population in 2015 was 320.9m people, immigrants accounted for 43.3m people (or just over 13% of the population). The US GDP in 2015 was about 18 trillion dollars, per capita that’s 56,207. Take out those 43.3m immigrants and US GDP drops by about 2.4 trillion dollars. And that’s just the immigrants, that doesn’t count their native born children who would also be contributing to the economy.

So, yes, Tucker, we are stronger economically because of those immigrants are here. We are stronger militarily because about 5% of the active duty military are made up of foreign born Americans.

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ObserverArt  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:02:40am

re: #212 KGxvi

It’s rather crazy to say this, but Trump not having a Chief of Staff might be best case scenario for the country. The more untenable a reckless and incompetent White House becomes, the more likely it would be to see more Congressional Republicans turn against Trump. Alternatively, that kind of mess in the White House would probably boost Democratic chances for taking back Congress in November.

That is my thinking too. It displays how Trump makes bad decisions on staff, is hard to work with and can’t be trusted as a boss. It further shoots down that BS about him being a good business man and leader. The truth comes out and maybe it forces him out, or at least prevents another run.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:04:00am

re: #163 Dr. Matt

The markets are on a rollercoaster today. finance.yahoo.com

Something else that has been plummeting is the price of oil. Should see lower gasoline prices soon!

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ObserverArt  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:04:32am

re: #215 Belafon

I’m pretty sure there have been other times when there were more immigrants. I’m really sure there’ve been times when there’s been a higher percentage of immigrants.

Don’t forget to use the “color chart” as I think what Tucker really means is more immigrants of color than ever. Because the early part of the 20th Century sure was a huge amount of immigrants coming into America.

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Belafon  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:05:21am

re: #224 ObserverArt

Don’t forget to use the “color chart” as I think what Tucker really means is more immigrants of color than ever. Because the early part of the 20th Century sure was a huge amount of immigrants coming into America.

A large percentage of which weren’t defined as “white” at the time.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:05:55am

re: #217 ObserverArt

VB, I hope you don’t mind, but I did a little work on your jewelry image. I thought I could bring out the colors a bit more for you.

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Wow that’s so beautiful! Do you know where I can get one? :)

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KGxvi  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:06:42am

re: #222 ObserverArt

That is my thinking too. It displays how Trump makes bad decisions on staff, is hard to work with and can’t be trusted as a boss. It further shoots down that BS about him being a good business man and leader. The truth comes out and maybe it forces him out, or at least prevents another run.

If he survives the first term (and proves that, in fact, no just gods exist), he’ll run again. No way he doesn’t, his ego wouldn’t allow that admission of failure/fragility. That said, I wouldn’t be surprised if some Republican(s) challenged him in 2020 - and historically when a sitting president is challenged in a primary, they usually lose the general.

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DodgerFan1988  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:08:07am

re: #211 GlutenFreeJesus

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So much for “We only have a problem with ILLEGAL immigrants.”…

That’s always been their agenda to end legal immigration, period. It’s written on their websites information page like the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) and NumbersUSA. They just overplay the word “illegals ” because it triggers regular Americans into supporting their cause.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:10:33am
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JordanRules  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:10:54am

re: #187 MsJ

This is a complete nothingburger. There is an amazon.ca site and I am sure that both Canada and Bezos wants to make it what it can be for Canadians (e.g., a lot of ability to sell Canadian goods, expanding things like Prime, music, video, etc., without putting Canadian businesses out of business). Retail is failing all over the place. That’s a lot of (shitty) jobs at stake. But a job is a job sometimes.

Great. Have an open ‘bilateral’ meeting then.

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ObserverArt  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:12:00am

re: #226 The Vicious Babushka

Wow that’s so beautiful! Do you know where I can get one? :)

Years of catalog and brochure photography and print design…specializing in metal, black plastic and chrome auto/racing parts taught me a lot about color correction and futzing around in Photoshop to save or improve an image.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:12:59am

re: #229 The Vicious Babushka

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Owned.

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Ace-o-aces  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:13:11am

Andrew Sullivan; Still an asshole.

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ObserverArt  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:13:24am

re: #227 KGxvi

If he survives the first term (and proves that, in fact, no just gods exist), he’ll run again. No way he doesn’t, his ego wouldn’t allow that admission of failure/fragility. That said, I wouldn’t be surprised if some Republican(s) challenged him in 2020 - and historically when a sitting president is challenged in a primary, they usually lose the general.

If The Big Orange Don thinks he is going to run for a second term I bet the pressure on him not to from within the party will be huge.

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MsJ  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:13:37am

re: #216 HappyWarrior

I was out of country during Mooch 1.0 so yeah I wouldn’t mind.

NO. NOPE. NO NO NO.

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William Lewis  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:14:47am

re: #133 plansbandc

Here’s a palate cleanser. New single from L7.

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NICE!

Here’s another.

Screaming Females - Glass House (Official Video)

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Belafon  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:15:29am

re: #234 ObserverArt

If The Big Orange Don thinks he is going to run for a second term I bet the pressure on him not to from within the party will be huge.

Which he will completely ignore. And when he refuses to concede because the party backs another candidate, the GOP war will be massive.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:15:56am

For fuck sake though, Tucker works at a network started by an immigrant. I don’t like Rupert at all but he is an immigrant but I guess Rupert’s different because he’s a pasty asshole like you are Tucker.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:16:24am

re: #228 DodgerFan1988

That’s always been their agenda to end legal immigration, period. It’s written on their websites information page like the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) and NumbersUSA. They just overplay the word “illegals ” because it triggers regular Americans into supporting their cause.

Yep it has been. They claim they’er just against illegal immigration but they’re lying.

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Mike Lamb  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:17:28am

re: #211 GlutenFreeJesus

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So much for “We only have a problem with ILLEGAL immigrants.”…

Our country is less united because of immigrants, but don’t tell me I’m bigoted.

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MsJ  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:18:15am

re: #230 JordanRules

Great. Have an open ‘bilateral’ meeting then.

Why? From a business standpoint, that makes no sense at all. I wouldn’t ever do that for my own company. Why should Amazon? I disagree.

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dangerman  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:20:00am

re: #224 ObserverArt

Don’t forget to use the “color chart” as I think what Tucker really means is more immigrants of color than ever. Because the early part of the 20th Century sure was a huge amount of immigrants coming into America.

He doesn’t mean immigrants
What he means is people who look foreign
No that’s not right either
What he means is people who don’t look like him

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KGxvi  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:20:09am

re: #234 ObserverArt

If The Big Orange Don thinks he is going to run for a second term I bet the pressure on him not to from within the party will be huge.

I AM THE PARTY11!!

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:20:10am

re: #186 Backwoods_Sleuth

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all together now: “awwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!!!!!!!”

I would defend him. I just need a million in cash, upfront.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:20:25am

speaking of Amazon:

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Belafon  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:21:17am

re: #242 dangerman

He doesn’t mean immigrants
What he means is people who look foreign
No that’s not right either
What he means is people who don’t look like him

I feel sorry for the people that look like Tucker.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:21:35am
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KGxvi  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:21:57am

re: #245 Backwoods_Sleuth

How soon before Amazon ends up facing anti-trust actions of the Standard Oil sort?

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ObserverArt  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:22:24am

re: #240 Mike Lamb

Our country is less united because of immigrants, but don’t tell me I’m bigoted.

Our country is less united because of Fox News.

And now Trump which who is a manifestation of Fox.

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Belafon  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:22:49am

re: #245 Backwoods_Sleuth

speaking of Amazon:

If Amazon stops shipping with the USPS, either stamps will have to triple or they’ll have to cut a large number of employees.

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Belafon  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:23:17am

re: #248 KGxvi

How soon before Amazon ends up facing anti-trust actions of the Standard Oil sort?

Are they doing anything anti-competitive?

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plansbandc  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:24:49am

re: #236 William Lewis

Excellent!

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MsJ  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:25:28am

re: #245 Backwoods_Sleuth

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JordanRules  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:26:06am

re: #241 MsJ

Not real time. Someone in the room to report on it after like many diplomatic meetings. Anything sensitive can be kept out.

We have cities fighting to give this company anything they want in a hunger games competition for their next headquarters. And historically speaking… we’ve listed some examples of how this can get really bad.

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MsJ  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:27:38am

re: #250 Belafon

If Amazon stops shipping with the USPS, either stamps will have to triple or they’ll have to cut a large number of employees.

More than that. You wouldn’t be able to ship things to remote areas of the country without paying triple digits. Mail alone would never make up the cost because not enough people send mail, they send email and pay bills online.

If business stopped shipping USPS, it would collapse completely. Republicans wouldn’t bail it out (apparently the USPS dying is some kind of Republican wet dream for who knows what reason). It would go away.

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gocart mozart  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:29:03am

re: #233 Ace-o-aces

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KGxvi  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:29:07am

re: #251 Belafon

Are they doing anything anti-competitive?

It’s questionable whether Standard Oil was really doing anything anti-competitive, or at least so egregious that it would require breaking up the company. But it got so big, controlling something like 90% of the market, that it was untenable to allow it to continue to exist as it did.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:29:56am

re: #212 KGxvi

It’s rather crazy to say this, but Trump not having a Chief of Staff might be best case scenario for the country. The more untenable a reckless and incompetent White House becomes, the more likely it would be to see more Congressional Republicans turn against Trump. Alternatively, that kind of mess in the White House would probably boost Democratic chances for taking back Congress in November.

Sounds great, until we are teetering on the brink of a nuclear war with North Korea.

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MsJ  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:30:23am

re: #254 JordanRules

Not real time. Someone in the room to report on it after like many diplomatic meetings. Anything sensitive can be kept out.

We have cities fighting to give this company anything they want in a hunger games competition for their next headquarters. And historically speaking… we’ve listed some examples of how this can get really bad.

Who’s the someone? What are their interests? Do they have a desired side or outcome? Would they leak corporate information? Would that negatively impact the government or Amazon?

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Skip Intro  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:30:29am

Right-Wing Pastor Says Melania Trump Ordered White House To Be ‘Completely Exorcised’ Before Moving In

Last week, right-wing pastor Paul Begley, host of the “Coming Apocalypse” program, appeared on Sheila Zilinsky’s “Weekend Vigilante” podcast, where he claimed that First Lady Melania Trump ordered the White House to be “completely exorcised” before she moved in.

“When the president allowed 40 pastors to come in to the White House and anoint him with oil and lay their hands and pray on him—seven times he’s done this—that is unheard of,” Begley said. “At least he is humble enough and recognizing that he needs God enough that he keeps bringing them in for the prayer. And I’ve got to say this, it might have started with the first lady.”

“The first lady, in that five hours when the Obamas and the Trumps went down to the Capitol and Trump was being sworn in as the 45th president of the United States,” Begley claimed, “Melania Trump said to her husband, ‘I’m not going to go into that White House unless it has been completely exorcised.’”

Claiming that when the Obamas lived there, the White House was filled with “all kinds of idol gods and images and all kinds of artifacts in there that were demonic,” Begley claimed that “Melania said, ‘You’ve got to get all of that out of there and send in some preachers and priests to go in and cleanse the White House or I will not spend on night in it.’”

“During that five hours when they were ripping out carpets and changing drapes,” Begley said, “there were people in there packing up every idol. The only thing that was left, Sheila, was one cross on one wall. They cleansed the White House. They had people in there anointing it with oil and praying everywhere.”

rightwingwatch.org

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JordanRules  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:31:24am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:32:00am

. re: #260 Skip Intro

Right-Wing Pastor Says Melania Trump Ordered White House To Be ‘Completely Exorcised’ Before Moving In

rightwingwatch.org

This is supposed to make Melania more enduring?

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:32:30am

re: #233 Ace-o-aces

Andrew Sullivan; Still an asshole.

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Nitpick alert: The GOP isn’t conservative. They are radicals. They are reactionary. They are bigots. They are actually opposed to doing anything that could be considered conservative. They’ve co-opted the label to give them some veneer of respectability.

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JordanRules  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:32:56am

re: #259 MsJ

I was just thinking of a media person who had experience with this sort of thing.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:33:16am

Sullivan is an asshole and was made for the GOP. I don’t feel bad for him that he feels he’s a man without a party.

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BeachDem  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:34:27am

re: #174 ObserverArt

I won’t support Mike DeWine(r) either.

Or Mary Taylor.

Let’s go Dems…Richard Cordray all the way.

(I hope an inner GOP pissing match such as this turns GOP voters off from voting)

I’m right there with you in spirit. And this is good news:

Following the February 7 candidate filing deadline, the Ohio Democratic House Caucus has announced that they have Democratic candidates for all 99 house districts. The Caucus has coined the phrase “a choice on every ballot” and that’s exactly what they have presented.

plunderbund.com

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Skip Intro  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:34:55am

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JordanRules  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:35:21am

re: #260 Skip Intro

Since when is she religious? This pastor dude sounds kinda full of shit.

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plansbandc  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:36:41am

re: #261 JordanRules

Hypocrisy. The most important Republican value.

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ObserverArt  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:36:54am

Melania has to be nuts…she married Trump.

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Weaselone  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:37:15am

re: #268 JordanRules

Since when is she religious? This pastor dude sounds kinda full of shit.

My opinion as well. Stupid too, given that the people actually tour the White House. I think all of those demonic idols would have been noticed on the tours.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:37:17am

re: #268 JordanRules

Since when is she religious? This pastor dude sounds kinda full of shit.

Yeah I don’t believe this either. My guess is he thinks this will make Melania endearing to his flock whereas to the rest of us it makes her come off as a petty kook.

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Skip Intro  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:37:26am

re: #268 JordanRules

She’s been religious as long as her husband has.

There were black people living there. The place had to be disinfected. She didn’t move in for what, six months?

Sounds totally consistent for a Trump.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:37:58am

re: #266 BeachDem

I’m right there with you in spirit. And this is good news:

Following the February 7 candidate filing deadline, the Ohio Democratic House Caucus has announced that they have Democratic candidates for all 99 house districts. The Caucus has coined the phrase “a choice on every ballot” and that’s exactly what they have presented.

plunderbund.com

That’s awesome.

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Belafon  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:38:11am

re: #257 KGxvi

It’s questionable whether Standard Oil was really doing anything anti-competitive, or at least so egregious that it would require breaking up the company. But it got so big, controlling something like 90% of the market, that it was untenable to allow it to continue to exist as it did.

According to Wikipedia, by the time it was broken up, it was down to about 2/3 market share. But it was doing things like undercutting prices in one area to suppress competition, and making up the price in other areas; and negotiating contracts to prevent competition.

An side effect of the breakup is it is what made Rockefeller the richest man in the world.

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MsJ  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:38:23am

re: #264 JordanRules

I was just thinking of a media person who had experience with this sort of thing.

As someone who is always concerned with corporate espionage and companies stealing our IP, I would never go along with that.

I get what you’re saying, but I disagree.

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JordanRules  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:39:11am

re: #273 Skip Intro

Nope. They’d be worried about gold drapes and getting paintings from the Guggenheim. They only act religious when forced to. Not buying this at all.

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:39:34am

As crazy as that Melania story is, did anybody follow that exorcist around to make sure he wasn’t leaving any bugs around?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:40:24am

Okay guys. Trying to think of a good audible book to get next. I should be finishing Ralph Ellison’s Invisible Man in the next few days. Any compelling biographies or non-fiction books? Going to be doing some travel coming up soon and will want something to listen to. I’m considering Selwynn Raab’s book about New York’s Five Families.

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MsJ  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:40:32am

re: #270 ObserverArt

Melania has to be nuts…she married Trump.

Not nuts…just a money hungry, gold digging whore (he was married when she was boinking him. Of course he is a serial whore and total POS, but I digress.)

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gocart mozart  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:42:48am
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gocart mozart  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:43:02am
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plansbandc  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:43:13am

re: #279 HappyWarrior

“The Devil in the White City”.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:43:32am

re: #281 gocart mozart

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So all that trashing you did of his detractors Omarosa, how about an apology? Oh wait.

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Skip Intro  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:44:17am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:44:19am

re: #282 gocart mozart

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They’re trying to at the very least incite hate and fear of immigrants and at the most violence and mayhem.

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ObserverArt  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:44:26am

re: #266 BeachDem

I’m right there with you in spirit. And this is good news:

Following the February 7 candidate filing deadline, the Ohio Democratic House Caucus has announced that they have Democratic candidates for all 99 house districts. The Caucus has coined the phrase “a choice on every ballot” and that’s exactly what they have presented.

plunderbund.com

Since David Pepper took over as The Ohio Democratic Party chairman in January 2015 there has been a lot more activity out of their office. He has completely reworked how they are doing things. It was about time. The old administration seemed to have been in a “this is the best we can do” mode.

It all could be because (From Pepper’s Wiki Page): Raised in Cincinnati, Ohio, Pepper is the son of former Procter & Gamble CEO, John Pepper.[2] Pepper earned his B. A. at Yale University and his J.D. from Yale Law School.[1]

Business background, Yale education…good for Ohio!

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:45:31am

re: #281 gocart mozart

I’m not into the Big Brother thing, but I have a hunch she’s saying that to tease viewers (the ones who vote people off) to keep her on the show.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:45:36am

re: #283 plansbandc

“The Devil in the White City”.

Oooh, I read another work by the same author about the first American ambassador to Nazi Germany. I liked it. I heard this was great as well.

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plansbandc  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:45:43am
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ObserverArt  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:46:07am

re: #280 MsJ

Not nuts…just a money hungry, gold digging whore (he was married when she was boinking him. Of course he is a serial whore and total POS, but I digress.)

Well, in my book, that is nuts!

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MsJ  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:47:39am

re: #291 ObserverArt

Well, in my book, that is nuts!

Why you and I are not rich assholes. :-D

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William Lewis  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:49:03am

re: #257 KGxvi

It’s questionable whether Standard Oil was really doing anything anti-competitive, or at least so egregious that it would require breaking up the company. But it got so big, controlling something like 90% of the market, that it was untenable to allow it to continue to exist as it did.

The real reason the trust was broken up, I believe, is that the US Navy wanted to shift from coal to oil on the capital ships. They did not want the supply of oil going through one man’s hands even if, for now, he was dependable and even patriotic. Instead, Teddy, good old Navy booster that he was, busted the trust apart.

That it was good for the rest of the nation as well was simply a happy side effect of making the pursuit of Empire more efficient.

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plansbandc  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:49:06am

re: #289 HappyWarrior

I found it fascinating. It’s about the beginning of modern America.

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Skip Intro  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:50:57am

re: #278 SteveMcGriftFlynnComey… …corruptemoligate RN

As crazy as that Melania story is, did anybody follow that exorcist around to make sure he wasn’t leaving any bugs around?

They left a big orange one behind. Appears to be impossible to get rid of.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:51:05am

re: #294 plansbandc

I found it fascinating. It’s about the beginning of modern America.

Yeah I figured that Larson would explore than just the murders. Definitely adding it to my Wishlist. Invisible Man has been great. It’s over 60 years old but it’s one of the best novels I’ve heard about race. I had to read the prologue in college and it’s stayed with me all tehse years.

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KGxvi  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:51:05am

re: #275 Belafon

According to Wikipedia, by the time it was broken up, it was down to about 2/3 market share. But it was doing things like undercutting prices in one area to suppress competition, and making up the price in other areas; and negotiating contracts to prevent competition.

An side effect of the breakup is it is what made Rockefeller the richest man in the world.

I may be misremembering the facts, been a while since I’ve read up and studied the case.

Still, I believe there is an inherent danger in businesses that become so big that they alone or with a few competitors can control the entire industry. It’s the same problem I had with the bank bailouts, they were “too big to fail” and our solution was to make them bigger.

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MsJ  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:51:30am

I was wrong. finance.yahoo.com

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:51:39am

A new(ish) single from BAND-MAID:

BAND-MAID / DOMINATION

Looks like they have a new album coming up soon too; “World Domination”, which will be released on February 14th.

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MsJ  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:54:08am
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gocart mozart  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:55:05am

It truelly is the best damn pizza in the western hemisphere

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:56:27am

re: #300 MsJ

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Looks like Hope Hicks is about to receive the “8 Karat Gold Electroplated Knife-In-The-Back” award from Trump.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:57:21am

re: #298 MsJ

I was wrong. finance.yahoo.com

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Down 300+ points for the day and the day is still young.

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A Mom Anon  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:57:35am

re: #296 HappyWarrior

Patton Oswalt’s late wife’s book is coming out soon. It’s a true crime story she herself worked on solving before she died.

I have an interesting book here called Hidden in Plain View: A secret story of quilts and the Underground Railroad by Jacqueline Tobin and Raymond Dobard. It’s something not a lot of people know about. Very interesting book.

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KGxvi  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:57:56am

re: #298 MsJ

I was wrong. finance.yahoo.com

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Lost almost 10% since closing last Thursday. That’s, what’s the word? Bad?

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Dr. Matt  Feb 9, 2018 • 10:00:20am

re: #305 KGxvi

Lost almost 10% since closing last Thursday. That’s, what’s the word? Bad?

“It’s a sign of strong economy”.

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Interesting Times  Feb 9, 2018 • 10:00:23am

The simple gifts tend to be the most heartfelt:

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William Lewis  Feb 9, 2018 • 10:00:31am

re: #279 HappyWarrior

Okay guys. Trying to think of a good audible book to get next. I should be finishing Ralph Ellison’s Invisible Man in the next few days. Any compelling biographies or non-fiction books? Going to be doing some travel coming up soon and will want something to listen to. I’m considering Selwynn Raab’s book about New York’s Five Families.

Try Michael Perry’s books. Start with “Population: 485 - Meeting your Neighbors one Siren at a time”. It’s about a guy coming back to very small town Wisconsin and the books chart the story of his new life. I’m currently reading “Coop”. Very good stuff.

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KGxvi  Feb 9, 2018 • 10:00:50am

re: #301 gocart mozart

LIES!

Simmzy’s (they have about 4 locations here in Southern California) has a Bacon and Date Pizza that I will put up against any pie anywhere.

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MsJ  Feb 9, 2018 • 10:00:52am

re: #303 Dr. Matt

Down 300+ points for the day and the day is still young.

The word of the day is apparently volatility.

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danarchy  Feb 9, 2018 • 10:02:26am

re: #215 Belafon

I’m pretty sure there have been other times when there were more immigrants. I’m really sure there’ve been times when there’s been a higher percentage of immigrants.

immigration over time
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dangerman  Feb 9, 2018 • 10:04:03am

re: #279 HappyWarrior

Okay guys. Trying to think of a good audible book to get next. I should be finishing Ralph Ellison’s Invisible Man in the next few days. Any compelling biographies or non-fiction books? Going to be doing some travel coming up soon and will want something to listen to. I’m considering Selwynn Raab’s book about New York’s Five Families.

Non fiction sciency
I’m in black hole blues by Janna Levin.
Kindle version
I have a funny idea of fun

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William Lewis  Feb 9, 2018 • 10:04:23am

Ok, this is seriously cool. Teenagers doing Sweet’s “Fox on the Run”

Watch The Regrettes’ ferocious take on “Fox On The Run”

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KGxvi  Feb 9, 2018 • 10:06:06am

re: #311 danarchy

Upward trend in immigration started around the time Reagan passed immigration reform. We should remind Republicans of that at every turn

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lawhawk  Feb 9, 2018 • 10:06:17am

Greets and saluts from the Resistance from the cold NYC metro area.

We once again had a government shutdown last night. It wasn’t long, but it was notable in that it didn’t have to happen at all.

The GOP can’t get out of their own way.

We now have another temporary budget (CR) in place for 6 weeks while the GOP tries to negotiate a 2-year budget.

The GOP extremists are complaining that the Senate bipartisan compromise deal adds to the debt, but they didn’t have a problem adding $1.5 trillion to debt so millionaires could get even richer and corporations could shield their profits.

They’re just complaining that the government is spending on the wrong sort of people (namely someone who isn’t a millionaire or a corporation).

Because they have no problem running up the debt when it suits them, but use the debt as a cudgel when Democrats are in power as a means to slash and burn the safety net (which Ryan and other extremists are intent on doing while they still have a chance).

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MsJ  Feb 9, 2018 • 10:06:45am

LOL!

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dangerman  Feb 9, 2018 • 10:07:06am

re: #290 plansbandc

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Don’t stand this ladder in soft shit

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 9, 2018 • 10:09:05am

JUDGE AT THE START OF THE TRIAL: “WE HAVE TO LET THIS GUY GO, HE PLEADS NOT GUILTY”

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Jay C  Feb 9, 2018 • 10:10:25am

re: #283 plansbandc #289 HappyWarrior

Oooh, I read another work by the same author about the first American ambassador to Nazi Germany. I liked it. I heard this was great as well.

Erik Larson’s books are great reading for history buffs who want just a little more backstory: not all fabulous, though: his last one, on the Lusitania was a bit formulaic, if still interesting.
“Thunderstruck” is also good (more history blended with sensational murder)

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ObserverArt  Feb 9, 2018 • 10:11:13am

re: #313 William Lewis

Ok, this is seriously cool. Teenagers doing Sweet’s “Fox on the Run”

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Video

They have a future. I hope they stick with it.

And again…it is great seeing so many young ladies rockin’ ‘n’ rollin’ these days.

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gocart mozart  Feb 9, 2018 • 10:13:33am
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dangerman  Feb 9, 2018 • 10:15:56am

re: #321 gocart mozart

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What is behind his desk? Clark’s jacket??

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gocart mozart  Feb 9, 2018 • 10:17:15am
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Belafon  Feb 9, 2018 • 10:17:46am

re: #311 danarchy

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Thanks. Good to have the facts.

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gocart mozart  Feb 9, 2018 • 10:19:06am

re: #322 dangerman

What is behind his desk? Clark’s jacket??

Those are his combat medals from the great VD War

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2018 • 10:19:27am

re: #316 MsJ

LOL!

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About to get a restraining order?

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gocart mozart  Feb 9, 2018 • 10:21:28am

re: #309 KGxvi
David Simon is on my side

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Dr. Matt  Feb 9, 2018 • 10:22:13am

The DOW went from -370 to -300 is a matter of seconds.

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Skip Intro  Feb 9, 2018 • 10:23:03am

re: #328 Dr. Matt

Computers and hedge funds. Starting to make horse racing look legit.

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Belafon  Feb 9, 2018 • 10:23:42am

re: #321 gocart mozart

Kissinger’s met a lot of presidents. Maybe he’ll convince Trump to interfere with the current president’s North Korea policy until the next president is elected.

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Ace-o-aces  Feb 9, 2018 • 10:24:22am
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Belafon  Feb 9, 2018 • 10:24:46am

re: #329 Skip Intro

Computers and hedge funds.

My job is computers, and I think the government should impose a .5 cent tax on every transaction to slow things down.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2018 • 10:25:18am

re: #331 Ace-o-aces

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Yeah it’s tough when the whole world knows you’re an abuser. How awful of his wife to expose that.

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JordanRules  Feb 9, 2018 • 10:26:19am
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Alephnaught  Feb 9, 2018 • 10:28:18am

re: #12 Dave In Austin

SlowDownScroll

[Embedded content: “Putrid fatberg is museum’s ‘most disgusting display ever’” ]

Oh, that’s nothing. I once saw one of Keith Richards’ paintings.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 9, 2018 • 10:28:54am

re: #268 JordanRules

Since when is she religious? This pastor dude sounds kinda full of shit.

Just another asshole Pulpit Pimp fleecing the flock!

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KGxvi  Feb 9, 2018 • 10:30:38am

re: #332 Belafon

My job is computers, and I think the government should impose a .5 cent tax on every transaction to slow things down.

I’ve been trying to figure out how many stock transactions there are per day. Had the idea that a tax like you’re suggesting could be used to fund some sort of guaranteed universal income program. But without knowing how many transactions there are, it’s hard to figure out if it’s feasible.

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Belafon  Feb 9, 2018 • 10:33:08am

re: #337 KGxvi

Based on the numbers for Tuesday May 24, the NYSE sees a total daily trading volume of approximately 3.6 billion shares. Obviously this number ranges, but generally 2-6 billion shares represents the general daily trading volumes for the NYSE.May 24, 2016

quora.com

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Feb 9, 2018 • 10:34:42am

if we followed the trumpazoid eugenics-style logic on merit immigration, we would have to look at improving the native population by getting rid of the poorly educated who complain so much about their problems dealing with a technological, globalized 21st century economy:

trump voters

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Jay C  Feb 9, 2018 • 10:34:54am

re: #260 Skip Intro

Right-Wing Pastor Says Melania Trump Ordered White House To Be ‘Completely Exorcised’ Before Moving In

rightwingwatch.org

Well, I call BS, too.
1. I can’t imagine Melania initiating this crap (as if she gives a shit about “religion”??)
2. Why is this inane story just coming out now?
3. These sound like the sort of nuts who would probably consider President Obama’s bust of Martin Luther King in the Oval Office to be a “demonic idol”

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KGxvi  Feb 9, 2018 • 10:35:27am

re: #338 Belafon

That’s total shares, but most transactions involve multiple shares traded. Let’s say I own 500 shares of Widgets International, I see it has doubled in price the last week, so I decide to sell 150 shares. That’s likely one transaction, not 150 transactions.

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Belafon  Feb 9, 2018 • 10:36:24am

I wouldn’t want to try to do a whole lot with it. The purpose is to reduce transactions. Using it for something big would be like taxing cigarettes and then depending on the income. If we started raising it too much, then it would be easy to argue that it should be abolished.

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lawhawk  Feb 9, 2018 • 10:36:31am

re: #337 KGxvi

NYS has a stock transfer tax, but there’s a rebate in place that essentially negates the tax.

It has potential to generate hundreds of millions of dollars a year in NYS alone.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2018 • 10:36:38am

re: #340 Jay C

Well, I call BS, too.
1. I can’t imagine Melania initiating this crap (as if she gives a shit about “religion”??)
2. Why is this inane story just coming out now?
3. These sound like the sort of nuts who would probably consider President Obama’s bust of Martin Luther King in the Oval Office to be a “demonic idol”

I think this nutcase really thinks this kind of story will make Melania endearing to people who listen to him and he’s honestly not wrong. You could probably convince these people that the Obamas did voodoo ceremonies at the WH and they’d believe oyu.

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Belafon  Feb 9, 2018 • 10:38:00am

re: #341 KGxvi

That’s total shares, but most transactions involve multiple shares traded. Let’s say I own 500 shares of Widgets International, I see it has doubled in price the last week, so I decide to sell 150 shares. That’s likely one transaction, not 150 transactions.

I meant transaction in the sense of an individual share being sold. Sorry, I used the wrong term.

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gocart mozart  Feb 9, 2018 • 10:38:12am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2018 • 10:40:09am

re: #346 gocart mozart

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I don’t like Cruz’s father at all but I can’t help but to wodner what he thinks of Ted sucking up to Trump after what Ted said about him and RAffy’s daughter in law.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 9, 2018 • 10:43:27am
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KGxvi  Feb 9, 2018 • 10:43:44am

re: #345 Belafon

I meant transaction in the sense of an individual share being sold. Sorry, I used the wrong term.

No worries, it’s been fairly easy for me to find data on trade volume (which, if I understand it, is what you linked to). But actual number of transactions, that’s a bit more difficult.

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makeitstop  Feb 9, 2018 • 10:43:44am

The Trump Cult’s incessant hammering on Mueller seems to have…improved Mueller’s trustworthiness. Go figure.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2018 • 10:44:21am

re: #350 makeitstop

The Trump Cult’s incessant hammering on Mueller seems to have…improved Mueller’s trustworthiness. Go figure.

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Good.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2018 • 10:45:17am

re: #348 Stanley Sea

Yeah this is a trend with him. He’s fine with jumping to conclusions when the parties aren’t white or kissing his ass but if they’re allies.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 9, 2018 • 10:48:32am

Observatory Spots Elon Musk’s Tesla Roadster Zooming Through Space (Video)

space.com

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MsJ  Feb 9, 2018 • 10:53:23am
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makeitstop  Feb 9, 2018 • 10:53:47am

I just watched a falcon take down what looks like a grackle in my side yard. The falcon is now enjoying lunch.

Nature is cruel.

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DodgerFan1988  Feb 9, 2018 • 10:53:52am

re: #316 MsJ

LOL!

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Arkham Asylum?

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William Lewis  Feb 9, 2018 • 10:57:10am

re: #355 makeitstop

I just watched a falcon take down what looks like a grackle in my side yard. The falcon is now enjoying lunch.

Nature is cruel.

I was walking to lunch in Madison a few years ago and all of a sudden grey feathers were floating down around me. I looked around startled and saw one of the peregrines nesting on the capital building sitting on top of a pigeon with a look in her eyes like “So?”

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makeitstop  Feb 9, 2018 • 10:58:30am

re: #357 William Lewis

I was walking to lunch in Madison a few years ago and all of a sudden grey feathers were floating down around me. I looked around startled and saw one of the peregrines nesting on the capital building sitting on top of a pigeon with a look in her eyes like “So?”

I want to go out and chase off the falcon before the scene turns into a total mess, but he’s a bruiser. I’m kind of afraid he’ll come at me!

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sagehen  Feb 9, 2018 • 11:12:16am

re: #333 HappyWarrior

Yeah it’s tough when the whole world knows you’re an abuser. How awful of his wife to expose that.

Wives (plural) and an ex-girlfriend.

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allegro  Feb 9, 2018 • 11:15:22am

re: #339 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

if we followed the trumpazoid eugenics-style logic on merit immigration, we would have to look at improving the native population by getting rid of the poorly educated who complain so much about their problems dealing with a technological, globalized 21st century economy:

trump voters

There’s an argument. The GOP wants us enslaved by educated ferriners!

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sagehen  Feb 9, 2018 • 11:15:50am

re: #337 KGxvi

I’ve been trying to figure out how many stock transactions there are per day. Had the idea that a tax like you’re suggesting could be used to fund some sort of guaranteed universal income program. But without knowing how many transactions there are, it’s hard to figure out if it’s feasible.

It’s super-feasible.

A 1/10 of 1% tax on stock trades… would be meaningless to people who buy stock to invest in a company and hold onto it for a meaningful time, it would only impact the high-volume arbitrage traders who trade the same stock back and forth 8 times per second for a solid hour.

Once everybody adjusts and stops doing that it wouldn’t be much of a revenue-producer, but it would make the market more likely to accomplish its actual purpose (efficient allocation of investment capital).

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dangerman  Feb 9, 2018 • 11:34:35am

re: #332 Belafon

My job is computers, and I think the government should impose a .5 cent tax on every transaction to slow things down.

Even .25 would be about 150bn


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