Breaking: A Second White House Aide Has Now Resigned After Domestic Abuse Allegations

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Wow. This is, uh, becoming quite a trend with the Trump administration: A second White House aide has resigned amid past domestic abuse allegations.

The abrupt departure of speechwriter David Sorensen comes after his former wife claimed that he was violent and emotionally abusive during their turbulent two-and-a-half-year marriage — allegations that he vehemently denied. Rather, Sorensen said he was the victim of domestic violence in their marriage.

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[Ex-wife Jessica] Corbett first contacted The Post a week before Porter’s case became public. She said that during her marriage to Sorensen, he ran a car over her foot, put out a cigarette on her hand, threw her into a wall and grasped her menacingly by her hair while they were alone on their boat in remote waters off Maine’s coast, an incident she said left her fearing for her life.

Before going to work for the Trump-thing, Sorensen was an adviser on health care to Maine’s infamous far right GOP Governor Paul LePage.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Feb 9, 2018 • 4:59:29pm

Thugs, con-men, bullies, racists and domestic abusers abound in Donald’s world….who’da thunk?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:02:36pm

Decency will win despite the RWNJs attempts to keep America brutal. Even the Trump admin can be pressured to fire abusers.

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gocart mozart  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:05:10pm
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fern01  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:05:32pm

And why are we now hearing from Raj Shah all the time. Has SHS caught the disease of a communications person who is shy about communicating?

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teleskiguy  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:06:30pm

OT, very on-topic for me.

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ObserverArt  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:07:42pm

So, I see The Orange Don is not releasing the Dems “memo” at this time.

Come on Donny, surprise us for once will ya’? So predictable.

This wouldn’t have anything to do with obstruction would it by the way?

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teleskiguy  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:07:52pm

re: #5 teleskiguy

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Interesting Times  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:08:07pm

re: #6 ObserverArt

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gocart mozart  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:10:50pm
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Charles Johnson  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:10:56pm
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bill d. (b.d.)  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:12:02pm

Nope, you sure as hell didn’t

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Targetpractice  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:12:46pm

One of the biggest driving stories in the ‘16 elections was ”How can we trust Hillary with national secrets after her email server!?”

Yet in two days, we’ve found out that not only were two White House aides (one highly placed) with access to national secrets were totally open to blackmail, but some 30 White House staff do not have full security clearance.

And the GOP will do…absolutely nothing, because there is no way to put a positive spin on all this.

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ObserverArt  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:12:55pm

re: #7 teleskiguy

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I imagine having no snow from Thanksgiving thru just after New Years is the real killer. All those holiday vacations with the big bucks, lost.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:13:43pm

re: #10 Charles Johnson

Imagine my overwhelming surprise that Trump is blocking the release of the Democrats’ memo.
7:10 PM - Feb 9, 2018
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See Charles Johnson’s other Tweets

Trump did not read the memo since he doesn’t read. So the question is (1) Was it John Kelly who told him not to release it or (2) was it something he heard from Fox? Since I don’t listen to Fox, I don’t know what they are advising him.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:13:53pm

RELEASE TEH MEMO!!

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lawhawk  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:14:17pm

re: #5 teleskiguy

It’s hard to have winter sports when you don’t get winters.

These are places that aren’t seeing the snowpack they did over the past century. Temperatures on the rise. Lower snowfall levels. More drought.

It’s not just here in the US either.

Europe is seeing the same issues, to the point where it may be tough to hold an Olympics in many of the cities that previously hosted the Winter Games because they can’t get reliably cold weather.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:14:28pm

re: #14 Hecuba’s daughter

Trump did not read the memo since he doesn’t read. So the question is (1) Was it John Kelly who told him not to release it or (2) was it something he heard from Fox? Since I don’t listen to Fox, I don’t know what they are advising him.

The Dems wanted it = Deny

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ipsos  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:14:37pm

re: #9 gocart mozart

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BBIAB… I’m driving down the street to the Douglass gravesite to ask him if this is for real.

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teleskiguy  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:14:46pm

re: #9 gocart mozart

I knew that account was voluntarily deactivated. Normally the handle is still click-able and it’ll just kick you over to an Account Suspended screen.

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teleskiguy  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:15:38pm

re: #13 ObserverArt

I imagine having no snow from Thanksgiving thru just after New Years is the real killer. All those holiday vacations with the big bucks, lost.

We had a white Christmas!

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:16:09pm

re: #7 teleskiguy

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bill d. (b.d.)  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:16:20pm

re: #20 teleskiguy

We had a white Christmas!

So did the Trump family!

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Interesting Times  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:16:43pm

re: #3 gocart mozart

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Targetpractice  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:17:14pm

re: #10 Charles Johnson

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And he’ll get away with it because the press completely forgot about it after they got done chewing over the Nunes memo.

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allegro  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:18:05pm

re: #12 Targetpractice

One of the biggest driving stories in the ‘16 elections was ”How can we trust Hillary with national secrets after her email server!?”

Yet in two days, we’ve found out that not only were two White House aides (one highly placed) with access to national secrets were totally open to blackmail, but some 30 White House staff do not have full security clearance.

And the GOP will do…absolutely nothing, because there is no way to put a positive spin on all this.

And at this point it looks like the only server that was secure was Hillary’s.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:19:40pm

Currently, 2F and snowing here.

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teleskiguy  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:20:41pm

Have to get this off my chest, all this shit is fucking disgraceful. It’s hard to keep an even keel with all this bullshit. The fire hose of insanity.

Giphy

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:21:27pm

re: #27 teleskiguy

Upding for UHF though.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:21:59pm
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De Kolta Chair  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:22:09pm

About that parade…

Pat Byrnes
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teleskiguy  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:22:13pm

re: #26 Anymouse 🌹

It got up to mid 40°s F at the ski area today. Still plenty of dirt patches and rocks to chew up skis and snowboards.

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bratwurst  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:22:56pm
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jaunte  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:23:06pm
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fern01  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:23:17pm

re: #8 Interesting Times

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Nothing else to say but … If any other President did this …

And the media - and some of congress - treat him as the usual type of President. They really were off the planet about a black man being elected.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:23:35pm

re: #29 The Ghost of a Flea

That is one crazy album.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:24:05pm

re: #35 De Kolta Chair

Her version of “Hound Dog” is so great.

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fern01  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:24:23pm

re: #11 bill d. (b.d.)

Nope, you sure as hell didn’t

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His moral compass is down past the center of the earth

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:25:01pm

re: #33 jaunte

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teleskiguy  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:25:09pm

re: #29 The Ghost of a Flea

That’s some good blues.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:25:24pm

In case you didn’t see the update above - the Post has now included details about the abuse alleged by Sorensen’s ex-wife:

She said that during her marriage to Sorensen, he ran a car over her foot, put out a cigarette on her hand, threw her into a wall and grasped her menacingly by her hair while they were alone on their boat in remote waters off Maine’s coast, an incident she said left her fearing for her life.

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ObserverArt  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:26:02pm

re: #36 The Ghost of a Flea

Her version of “Hound Dog” is so great.

She did it first did she not?

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:26:24pm

Alex being Alex:

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Chrysicat  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:26:31pm
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jaunte  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:27:08pm
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Targetpractice  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:27:17pm

re: #40 Charles Johnson

In case you didn’t see the update above - the Post has now included details about the abuse alleged by Sorensen’s ex-wife:

“Very fine people.”

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ObserverArt  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:27:58pm

All organizations are reflective of their leader.

Fish rot from the head down…etc., etc., etc.

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DodgerFan1988  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:28:06pm

What the f*ck is he doing in South Korea anyway if he doesn’t respect their country, people, and culture?

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The Ghost of a Flea  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:28:46pm

re: #41 ObserverArt

I do believe so, but I don’t know if she’s the originator.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:28:49pm

re: #40 Charles Johnson

In case you didn’t see the update above - the Post has now included details about the abuse alleged by Sorensen’s ex-wife:

He denied it.

So, he’s cool.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:29:15pm

re: #43 Chrysicat

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Would that be Sorensen or someone new?

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ObserverArt  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:29:20pm

re: #41 ObserverArt

She did it first did she not?

From Wiki…

“Hound Dog” is a twelve-bar blues song written by Jerry Leiber and Mike Stoller. Recorded originally by Willie Mae “Big Mama” Thornton on August 13, 1952, in Los Angeles and released by Peacock Records in late February 1953, “Hound Dog” was Thornton’s only hit record, selling over 500,000 copies, spending 14 weeks in the R&B charts, including seven weeks at number one.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:29:37pm

re: #40 Charles Johnson

In case you didn’t see the update above - the Post has now included details about the abuse alleged by Sorensen’s ex-wife:

What a psycho.

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Targetpractice  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:29:45pm
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allegro  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:29:45pm

re: #47 DodgerFan1988

What the f*ck is he doing in South Korea anyway if he doesn’t respect their country, people, and culture?

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He took a knee butt. IOKIYAR

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Chrysicat  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:30:22pm

re: #50 Anymouse 🌹

It would be Sorensen.

I made my post as fast as I could, but news moves even faster than I do :-(

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:31:10pm

Remember Trump only hires the best people.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:32:22pm

Retweeted

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teleskiguy  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:32:46pm

re: #56 HappyWarrior

Remember Trump only hires the best people.

Nobody does things better than Fuckface Von Clownstick, according to Fuckface Von Clownstick.

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fern01  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:33:21pm

re: #47 DodgerFan1988

What the f*ck is he doing in South Korea anyway if he doesn’t respect their country, people, and culture?

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Looking to start WWIII?

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:34:34pm

re: #57 De Kolta Chair

Fiscally-responsible, family values, &c &c &c

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:34:49pm

re: #58 teleskiguy

Nobody does things better than Fuckface Von Clownstick, according to Fuckface Von Clownstick.

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Heh he’s so full of shit.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:36:07pm

re: #57 De Kolta Chair

Retweeted

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He may have wanted tougher penalties to try to stop himself. Being religious and being the kind of guy who has to pay for sex is a tough situation.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:36:50pm

re: #62 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

He may have wanted tougher penalties to try to stop himself. Being religious and being the kind of guy who has to pay for sex is a tough situation.

Stand by for the “I repented” and a huge swath of Christians will be fine with him.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:37:31pm

re: #51 ObserverArt

Leiber and Stoller wrote a ton of hits in the ’50s and ’60s. VOA did an interview of Stoller back in 2013.

voanews.com

Two Jewish white guys wrote a blues song, which was first recorded by a black woman, then made really popular by a white guy.

America, ya gotta love it!

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:37:34pm

Peter Kuper

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Stanley Sea  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:37:48pm

OT

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dirkdigglerjr  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:38:10pm

re: #8 Interesting Times

Wow. Tell us how you really feel Frum! If only the Dems could push back like this. The apostate right is the best it seems we can get right now.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:39:24pm
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bill d. (b.d.)  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:39:24pm

re: #47 DodgerFan1988

What the f*ck is he doing in South Korea anyway if he doesn’t respect their country, people, and culture?

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Pence walks out of a football game and refuses to stand and acknowledge his hosts at the Olympics because he is butthurt?

But he is a role model for our kids? We already have enough spoiled brat kids, thank you.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:40:57pm

Preschool classroom children add something to their model of the Solar System:

Imgur

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Stanley Sea  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:42:20pm
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dirkdigglerjr  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:42:52pm

re: #16 lawhawk

There’s always Mount Everest (for now)…

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:44:05pm

re: #64 wheat-dogg

Another great Jewish R&B songwriter was Brooklyn’s own Jerome Solon Felder, better known as Doc Pomus. My personal favorite from his vast catalog…

JOE TURNER Boogie Woogie Country Girl

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Targetpractice  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:44:33pm

re: #68 FormerDirtDart

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The vote to release the memo was unanimous. Ryan has called for the memo’s release. And now Republicans not on the committee are calling for its release.

If Trump refuses to release the memo at all, whatever the excuse he may make up is, the GOP may very well force his hand by taking a formal vote to release it that would remove him from the loop.

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jaunte  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:44:59pm
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ObserverArt  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:45:53pm

re: #64 wheat-dogg

Leiber and Stoller wrote a ton of hits in the ’50s and ’60s. VOA did an interview of Stoller back in 2013.

voanews.com

Two Jewish white guys wrote a blues song, which was first recorded by a black woman, then made really popular by a white guy.

America, ya gotta love it!

I was reading the Wiki on it. Very fun. Sounds like she was a bit intimidating to Leiber and Stoller. I always liked that bark she had in the vocal delivery. That was what they wanted, she originally sang it more straight blues. They clashed. L&S convinced her…history was made.

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teleskiguy  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:45:55pm
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jaunte  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:46:04pm
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dirkdigglerjr  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:46:37pm

re: #42 Anymouse 🌹

Suddenly Nancy Reagan and her horoscope seems a bit more “sane.”

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:46:50pm

re: #74 Targetpractice

The vote to release the memo was unanimous. Ryan has called for the memo’s release. And now Republicans not on the committee are calling for its release.

If Trump refuses to release the memo at all, whatever the excuse he may make up is, the GOP may very well force his hand by taking a formal vote to release it that would remove him from the loop.

I wouldn’t expect a formal vote. They’ll still run interference for him, and they even have plausible excuses such as “we need to work on the budget.”

While Republicans might whinge in the press about it, I don’t expect the House to do anything at all.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:48:09pm

re: #74 Targetpractice

The vote to release the memo was unanimous. Ryan has called for the memo’s release. And now Republicans not on the committee are calling for its release.

If Trump refuses to release the memo at all, whatever the excuse he may make up is, the GOP may very well force his hand by taking a formal vote to release it that would remove him from the loop.

I’m sure we can count on Julian to release it

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Interesting Times  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:48:21pm

re: #74 Targetpractice

If Trump refuses to release the memo at all, whatever the excuse he may make up is, the GOP may very well force his hand by taking a formal vote to release it that would remove him from the loop.

I’ll believe that when I see it. For now, it looks like the lizard who said the GOPers only voted to release it because they knew Cheeto Benito would block it at the end (thus allowing them to feign helplessness and ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ the whole thing off) was right.

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dirkdigglerjr  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:49:13pm

re: #47 DodgerFan1988

Maybe Kaepernick was carrying the flag. In any event, such disrespect. But are you really surprised?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:49:40pm

So I read that Trump is thinking about replacing Kelly as CoS. Kelly had been Sec’y of DHS, till Priebus resigned and Trump moved him over.

He’s thinking of replacing him with Gary Cohn, who already works for him, or Mick Mulvaney, who is both OMB director and CFPB Administrator.

It’s like Trump only knows about 6-10 people, so he has to shuffle them around when he gets rid of somebody.

Anyone working in the Trump Administration would be well advised to buy the smallest box of business cards, because either you’ll quit, or he’ll fire you, or he’ll have you take over for someone who quit or got fired.

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dirkdigglerjr  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:50:44pm

re: #57 De Kolta Chair

He was only providing “counseling.”

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Chrysicat  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:51:14pm
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De Kolta Chair  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:52:02pm
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bill d. (b.d.)  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:52:54pm

Who is the guy responsible for extreme vetting for the guys working at the White House?

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fern01  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:53:02pm

re: #74 Targetpractice

the GOP may very well force his hand by taking a formal vote to release it that would remove him from the loop.

I would bet $10000 that the GOP does not do that. Why did they vote for release - because they knew the moron would not release it. Only blessings for trump memos come out of this administration.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:53:17pm

re: #78 jaunte

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bill d. (b.d.)  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:54:00pm

re: #90 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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Don’t dare call them deplorable.

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fern01  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:54:14pm

re: #82 Interesting Times

I’ll believe that when I see it. For now, it looks like the lizard who said the GOPers only voted to release it because they knew Cheeto Benito would block it at the end (thus allowing them to feign helplessness and ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ the whole thing off) was right.

I should have kept reading before posting - I agree 100%

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:54:48pm

re: #91 bill d. (b.d.)

Don’t dare call them deplorable.

They’re not the Untouchables. They’re the Unthinkables.

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dirkdigglerjr  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:55:36pm

re: #80 Anymouse 🌹

No Republican running this fall if going to cross Cheeto Jesus - at least until the primary window closes.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:55:52pm

re: #88 bill d. (b.d.)

Who is the guy responsible for extreme vetting for the guys working at the White House?

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Citizen K  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:58:11pm

re: #71 Stanley Sea

Trump’s America: No Country for Any Women (nor for non-White Men)

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teleskiguy  Feb 9, 2018 • 5:58:37pm

re: #95 Anymouse 🌹

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ObserverArt  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:00:02pm

re: #91 bill d. (b.d.)

Don’t dare call them deplorable.

Calling them deplorable can cost you an election.

Being deplorable wins you the same election.

Yeah…that.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:00:55pm

yeah, the yam is president.
Nothing is normal, or will be normal till his demise.

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dirkdigglerjr  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:01:11pm

Sad news regarding one of my favorite actors.

huffingtonpost.com

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teleskiguy  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:01:33pm

That’s a damn good fucking question. I bet he has it, he worked as an aide for then Senator Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:02:56pm

Scott Stantis

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:04:41pm
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Chrysicat  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:04:45pm

re: #102 De Kolta Chair

That being Stantis, though, that might be meant literally.

IIRC, he’s a conservative himself, as shown in his ‘funny pages’ work “Prickly City”.

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jaunte  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:06:56pm
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De Kolta Chair  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:07:28pm

Dan Wasserman

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:08:52pm

Ohnoshetwitnt is getting swarmed by Nazis on that post now.

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Interesting Times  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:09:06pm

re: #67 dirkdigglerjr

Wow. Tell us how you really feel Frum! If only the Dems could push back like this. The apostate right is the best it seems we can get right now.

Hmmm. If you refresh my comment, it looks like Frum deleted the tweet. I think too many people missed the dark sarcasm and thought he was making fun of domestic violence survivors (this is one problem with the “punch up vs. punch down” concept in humor - oftentimes a joke that appears to punch down is doing the opposite, that is, ridiculing insensitivity, hypocrisy, and oppression - think “modest proposal” for a blatantly obvious example).

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teleskiguy  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:12:07pm

re: #31 teleskiguy

It got up to mid 40°s F at the ski area today. Still plenty of dirt patches and rocks to chew up skis and snowboards.

And the daylight is extending li’l by li’l. If it doesn’t snow a shit ton in no time flat, the snow we have is going bye bye.

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KGxvi  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:12:26pm

MSNBC reporting that Trump has decided to not release the Democratic intelligence memo.

And apparently the number 3 person at the DOJ is stepping down after 9 months to take a job at Walmart

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meteor  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:13:13pm

re: #107 Anymouse 🌹

I wish all those assholes would get Baker Acted immediately.

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teleskiguy  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:13:16pm

re: #110 KGxvi

The pee tape is real.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:13:17pm

Clay Jones

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KGxvi  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:15:38pm

re: #112 teleskiguy

The pee tape is real.

We’ve reached the point with Stupid Watergate where I’m more likely to believe something is true than I am to believe it’s not true.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:15:52pm

re: #112 teleskiguy

The pee tape is real.

It’s real and there’s more. The Russians have him by his little hands.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:17:10pm
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VegasGolfer  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:17:32pm

re: #110 KGxvi

WalMart greeter is definitely less stress than DOJ #3 job, or maybe not. :)

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KGxvi  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:18:47pm

re: #117 VegasGolfer

WalMart greeter is definitely less stress than DOJ #3 job, or maybe not. :)

I’m assuming it’s a very well paid in house counsel job. But after Trump, working as a Walmart cashier would also be appropriate

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VegasGolfer  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:21:37pm

re: #118 KGxvi

Yeah, think she got the top legal job at WalMart.
Only job i want to see trump do is make license plates.

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Jay C  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:22:20pm

re: #116 Anymouse 🌹

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But then, it’s a political ad both mendacious and empty: the “Republican” tag is thus unnecessary…

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teleskiguy  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:22:30pm

re: #114 KGxvi

We’ve reached the point with Stupid Watergate where I’m more likely to believe something is true than I am to believe it’s not true.

Giphy

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:25:44pm

There is an organisation called The Clergy Project, which is a support network for current and former clergy who find they no longer believe in the things they preach. That network exists because the punishment (social and financial) is severe for a cleric who loses his or her faith.

Perhaps conservative politicians need something similar to the Clergy Project.

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jaunte  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:26:32pm

“…This isn’t the first time that Kelly has defended a sexual abuser working underneath him. In 2016, Kelly testified as a character witness for Todd Shane Tomko, a Marine colonel who pleaded guilty to “sending inappropriate and sexual messages to a female corporal under his command.” He called Tomko “a superb Marine officer.” Then last year, Tomko was arrested on charges of child molestation dating back at least 15 years. “Prosecutors told the court Tomko groomed his three victims,” WAVY’s Jason Marks and Kevin Green report. “They say he made them watch pornography and learn sexual acts as early as age 4. It wasn’t until they got older that these acts were carried out.”

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Targetpractice  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:26:56pm

re: #110 KGxvi

MSNBC reporting that Trump has decided to not release the Democratic intelligence memo.

And apparently the number 3 person at the DOJ is stepping down after 9 months to take a job at Walmart

I’ll throw out my bet now, he’ll insist that his “national security advisors” have informed him that it wouldn’t be in the nation’s best interest to release the memo as there’s too much in it that could compromise our intelligence services. Which will sound like utter BS after the same services advised against releasing the Nunes memo, but to his mind it’ll be totally foolproof because the media won’t question what in the memo is so dangerous to national security.

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KGxvi  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:28:01pm

re: #119 VegasGolfer

Yeah, think she got the top legal job at WalMart.
Only job i want to see trump do is make license plates.

Maddow raises the point that she would be next in line to oversee the Mueller investigation if Rosenstein is fired. So there’s potential that this is the first act in Saturday Night Masacre II: Let’s Try Friday Night

Hard to believe someone would walk out of a job like that after 9 months without a very good reason, big time corporate gig will always be there… unless there’s something that could ruin your career coming down the line

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KGxvi  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:29:09pm

re: #124 Targetpractice

I’ll throw out my bet now, he’ll insist that his “national security advisors” have informed him that it wouldn’t be in the nation’s best interest to release the memo as there’s too much in it that could compromise our intelligence services. Which will sound like utter BS after the same services advised against releasing the Nunes memo, but to his mind it’ll be totally foolproof because the media won’t question what in the memo is so dangerous to national security.

Every Democrat needs to repeat this every time they are in front of a camera from here on out:

What does the President have to hide?

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:30:17pm

re: #125 KGxvi

That would be an explanation for the number of Republican politicians in safe seats headed for the exits as well.

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dirkdigglerjr  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:31:24pm

re: #108 Interesting Times

Point taken. But I would hope that people would see the point Frum was trying to make. Unfortunately, too many people are like Sheldon and fail to see the sarcasm.

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Cheechako  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:33:34pm

re: #125 KGxvi

Maddow raises the point that she would be next in line to oversee the Mueller investigation if Rosenstein is fired. So there’s potential that this is the first act in Saturday Night Masacre II: Let’s Try Friday Night

Hard to believe someone would walk out of a job like that after 9 months without a very good reason, big time corporate gig will always be there… unless there’s something that could ruin your career coming down the line

So, the question is, is this a legitimate position at Wallmart? Or have the Waltons help remove a bump in the road for firing Mueller. Did trump call in a favor from the
Waltons?

To me, the deal stinks.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:33:45pm
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dirkdigglerjr  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:34:12pm

re: #110 KGxvi

So the new number 3 will get to replace Rosenstein as number 2. And that spells trouble for Mueller. This is straight out of the Erdogan playbook in destroying a nation’s justice department.

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meteor  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:35:06pm

re: #130 Charles Johnson

Sick trash.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:35:12pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:38:56pm
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teleskiguy  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:42:47pm

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MsJ  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:43:05pm

This!

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:45:06pm

The least surprising thing in this article is that Sorensen worked for Paul “D-Money, Smoothie, Shifty” LePage.

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Citizen K  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:45:54pm

For fuck’s sake.

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KGxvi  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:46:09pm

re: #131 dirkdigglerjr

So the new number 3 will get to replace Rosenstein as number 2. And that spells trouble for Mueller. This is straight out of the Erdogan playbook in destroying a nation’s justice department.

As it stands, until a replacement is confirmed, next in line is the solicitor general. So that’s a nice callback to the Saturday Night Masacre

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KGxvi  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:49:44pm

re: #129 Cheechako

So, the question is, is this a legitimate position at Wallmart? Or have the Waltons help remove a bump in the road for firing Mueller. Did trump call in a favor from the
Waltons?

To me, the deal stinks.

The hiring committee at a major publicly traded company doesn’t typically just call someone up and say “hey, we’re looking for a new senior Vice President of legal affairs, want the gig?” There is a process that involves multiple interviews and negotiations, and someone who took a high ranking job at the DOJ in the last year isn’t typically someone who makes the list. I don’t know what is happening with this, but it seems very strange

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dirkdigglerjr  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:50:10pm

re: #138 Citizen K

Just like “working-class voters” are all white.

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teleskiguy  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:51:14pm
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Stanley Sea  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:52:06pm

re: #125 KGxvi

Maddow raises the point that she would be next in line to oversee the Mueller investigation if Rosenstein is fired. So there’s potential that this is the first act in Saturday Night Masacre II: Let’s Try Friday Night

Hard to believe someone would walk out of a job like that after 9 months without a very good reason, big time corporate gig will always be there… unless there’s something that could ruin your career coming down the line

I posted this earlier. Jeffrey Toobin on CNN said that being a young-ish atty in the DOJ at #3 is the creme de la creme. Every ambitious atty wants it. Over private sector.

There’s more to it, do not doubt.

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dirkdigglerjr  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:53:11pm

re: #139 KGxvi

Thanks for the clarification … Mueller is WAYYYYYYYYYY overdue for an indictment to give me a bit of hope.

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MsJ  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:53:31pm

McCarthy? JFC.

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The Major  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:53:33pm

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:53:46pm

Edward Koren

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:53:57pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:54:46pm

re: #146 The Major

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MsJ  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:55:32pm

re: #140 KGxvi

The hiring committee at a major publicly traded company doesn’t typically just call someone up and say “hey, we’re looking for a new senior Vice President of legal affairs, want the gig?” There is a process that involves multiple interviews and negotiations, and someone who took a high ranking job at the DOJ in the last year isn’t typically someone who makes the list. I don’t know what is happening with this, but it seems very strange

That is exactly what I was thinking. Exactly.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:56:17pm
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meteor  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:56:39pm
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Cheechako  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:56:52pm

re: #140 KGxvi

The hiring committee at a major publicly traded company doesn’t typically just call someone up and say “hey, we’re looking for a new senior Vice President of legal affairs, want the gig?” There is a process that involves multiple interviews and negotiations, and someone who took a high ranking job at the DOJ in the last year isn’t typically someone who makes the list. I don’t know what is happening with this, but it seems very strange

Maybe Mueller has a new path to follow?

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:57:47pm
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MsJ  Feb 9, 2018 • 6:58:40pm

Slopestyle is taking no prisoners. The course is kicking ass and winning. Almost everyone is wiping out.

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Skip Intro  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:00:07pm

re: #153 Cheechako

Mueller is running out of time.

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The Major  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:00:52pm

re: #149 Anymouse 🌹

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meteor  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:01:59pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:04:27pm

re: #157 The Major

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Cheechako  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:05:35pm

re: #156 Skip Intro

Mueller is running out of time.

Maybe. If Rosenstein is fired I expect Mueller may announce indictments for the trumpkins very quickly. I’m sure he’s already got some sealed indictments for the lesser charges against the trumpkins.

Mueller is just going to dare trump to do anything once the trumpkins indictments are public.

Once an indictment is issued, it just doesn’t go away.

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Jebediah, RBG  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:07:59pm

re: #29 The Ghost of a Flea

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Good idea. Be back in a bit.

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The Major  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:10:25pm

re: #159 Anymouse 🌹

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:11:45pm

re: #154 Anymouse 🌹

Shitholes personified.

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Belafon  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:12:36pm

re: #67 dirkdigglerjr

Wow. Tell us how you really feel Frum! If only the Dems could push back like this. The apostate right is the best it seems we can get right now.

Schiff, Lieu, Pelosi, and Duckworth do it frequently.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:13:34pm

re: #158 meteor

Hellbound running on time, as always.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:15:14pm

re: #162 The Major

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The Major  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:17:48pm

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allegro  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:19:31pm

re: #140 KGxvi

The hiring committee at a major publicly traded company doesn’t typically just call someone up and say “hey, we’re looking for a new senior Vice President of legal affairs, want the gig?” There is a process that involves multiple interviews and negotiations, and someone who took a high ranking job at the DOJ in the last year isn’t typically someone who makes the list. I don’t know what is happening with this, but it seems very strange

It strikes me as odd because I know lawyers have their specific specialties and how similar are these jobs? A DOJ attorney would seem to have real different experience than a corporate attorney. Does a DOJ attorney regardless of how smart and talented have the experience a corporation like WalMart would look for at that level?

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DodgerFan1988  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:20:40pm

It’s pretty obvious by now that Pence views South Korea as another “shithole” and care less about the millions of South Korean lives that would be lost in a forced war with North Korea.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:20:46pm

Don’t forget who Rachel Brand is: A Trump appointee and a member of the Federalist Society. It’s just as likely that she walked to intentionally clear the path for Trump to install a stooge once he fires Rosenstein.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:24:20pm

Wife beaters, kiddie-diddlers, grifters, drunks and spies. I think we would be better off scooping a bunch of random people up off the street and putting them in charge.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:24:43pm

re: #171 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Wife beaters, kiddie-diddlers, grifters, drunks and spies. I think we would be better off scooping a bunch of random people up off the street and putting them in charge.

But not the Irish!

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teleskiguy  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:26:15pm
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sagehen  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:27:09pm

re: #73 De Kolta Chair

Another great Jewish R&B songwriter was Brooklyn’s own Jerome Solon Felder, better known as Doc Pomus. My personal favorite from his vast catalog…

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The all-time best Doc Pomus song is this one:

Save the last dance for me - The Drifters

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:28:28pm

re: #66 Stanley Sea

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bill d. (b.d.)  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:29:41pm

re: #171 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Wife beaters, kiddie-diddlers, grifters, drunks and spies. I think we would be better off scooping a bunch of random people up off the street and putting them in charge.

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Belafon  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:32:17pm

re: #169 DodgerFan1988

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teleskiguy  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:35:12pm
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Charles Johnson  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:35:34pm

Yikes. The Rage Furby recorded a 45-minute video at his Facebook page, ranting about that Boston Globe article.

Will not be watching. Can’t even.

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teleskiguy  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:38:07pm

re: #179 Charles Johnson

He lost it a long time ago. When he’s getting insulted by Roger Stone…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:41:11pm

re: #179 Charles Johnson

Yikes. The Rage Furby recorded a 45-minute video at his Facebook page, ranting about that Boston Globe article.

Will not be watching. Can’t even.

I’ve said all along that Ginger Snapped will wind up pushing a cart on Skid Row waiting for his SSI Disability Claim to be approved…

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Charles Johnson  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:41:51pm

Every time I post something about the Rage Furby I have to consider whether it’s exposing his awfulness or helping to raise his public profile even more. Chuck is a horrible person, but he’s driven to promote himself and there are a lot of right wing idiots who are eager to sign on to help him do it. On the other hand, SOMEBODY needs to expose what this disgusting person is doing, and when he actually stalked me in real life he got on my worst side. Nobody is going to intimidate me like that.

It really makes me sick that this is where we’re at politically, with vile people like Chuck actually influential at the highest level of the US government, and I don’t want to help him so it’s a balancing act.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:42:29pm

re: #181 teleskiguy

CCJ is the lower-priced off-brand Vienna Sausage in the by-the-lot store of the alt-right.

Nobody should be buying that shit, and yet the income stream keeps trickling in….

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Citizen K  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:43:22pm

re: #180 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Yep. Sam Bee did a long one on this a year and a half or so ago, re: the re-politicization of American Christianity.

The Religious Right | Full Frontal with Samantha Bee | TBS

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teleskiguy  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:43:25pm

re: #173 teleskiguy

MP3 Audio

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Single-handed sailor  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:46:08pm

re: #178 teleskiguy

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Cheechako  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:46:21pm

re: #175 Joe Bacon 🌹

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sagehen  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:46:24pm

re: #168 allegro

It strikes me as odd because I know lawyers have their specific specialties and how similar are these jobs? A DOJ attorney would seem to have real different experience than a corporate attorney. Does a DOJ attorney regardless of how smart and talented have the experience a corporation like WalMart would look for at that level?

A company’s top lawyer is legally allowed to do things that look a lot like lobbying… without calling it lobbying or registering as a lobbyist.

Also, that lawyer can offer jobs in her department to members of Congress and their spouses and offspring.

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ObserverArt  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:47:23pm

re: #145 MsJ

McCarthy? JFC.

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Plus, if it takes him out of his majority seat in the House and maybe he loses it for good to a Democrat…well, all the better.

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William Lewis  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:48:55pm

re: #180 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

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jaunte  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:50:19pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:51:06pm

re: #191 William Lewis

Yep. Prior to the late 70’s most evangelicals considered it a thing between a woman and God & only the hated Roman Catholics got bent out of shape over abortion. But’s keeping non-whites in their places was far more important. That’s a good accounting of the story.

Really, the whole God, Guns, Abortion schtick was something that got pushed on them by the politicians who were courting their favor during the Southern Strategy. The fact that it came with a side order of racism was just a nice bonus.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:52:09pm

re: #188 Cheechako

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:53:11pm

The New York Times: Nazi-apologists, and rape-apologists:

The Smearing of Woody Allen (Bret Stephens)

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The Ghost of a Flea  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:53:21pm

re: #183 Charles Johnson

I don’t know if this is reassuring or more depressing, but I think the old paradigm of increasing someone’s profile by featuring them no longer applies.

CCJ isn’t doing better because he’s getting more press, and thus more attention, and thus more features. His audience remains the bottom of the barrel believers (hence the Vienna sausage jab) who’ll throw money at anything…and the very, very rich people who see him as a very specific kind of investment—the need for maximum bullshit, for stupid content for stupid people who think they’re smart—in propagating their long-term goals. Neither are reaching him via you: there’s an entirely closed loop of far right/reactionary media that CCJ bottom-feeds in, that none of us have a power to crack open.

Also: “mainstream” press sources have decided to feed half the boat to Scylla and half to Charybdis. They soft-pedal the crazies that hove into public view to maintain a “both sides” milquetoast stance, but also won’t confront that there’s an entire crazy bloc that is coherent, well-funded, and coordinates its talking points.

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Citizen K  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:56:13pm

More fluffery of WH folks from Maggie Haberman? Must be a day ending in ‘-y’

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:58:16pm

Stephens:

If Allen is in fact a pedophile, he appears to have acted on his evil fantasies exactly once. Compare that to Larry Nassar’s 265 identified victims.

Great “not as bad as” argument there, Bret.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:58:28pm

re: #195 Anymouse 🌹

Funny image to compensate for how incredibly pissed and I am, and in lieu of the no-no stuff that I’m thinking about the author.

“Exactly once,” motherfucker?

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Kragar  Feb 9, 2018 • 7:59:48pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:00:35pm

re: #195 Anymouse 🌹

The New York Times: Nazi-apologists, and rape-apologists:

The Smearing of Woody Allen (Bret Stephens)

Q) What did Brainless Bret consume to write that?

A) Must have been the Woody Allen Sandwich from Carnegie Deli—half corned beef and half pastrami…

Bottle of Brioschi sold separately!
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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:00:40pm

re: #197 Citizen K

More fluffery of WH folks from Maggie Haberman? Must be a day ending in ‘-y’

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Including that subordinate officer he appeared as a character witness for in a courts-martial, who stood accused of grooming children with porn and alcohol.

Nice guy to defend there, Ms. Haberman.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:04:29pm
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jaunte  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:05:28pm
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Kragar  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:05:53pm

BernieBro attempts to use Mandela.

Its not very successful…

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The Ghost of a Flea  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:05:54pm

re: #196 The Ghost of a Flea

Pretty much the only way anyone outside the demimonde has an impact on the Moronsphere is when someone gets a rep for “triggering the libs”…but it’s not even that success is rewarded, just hype.

Really, I don’t think there’s enough talk about how this is both a closed economic system and a closed information system. Half of the major participants grift—they take money for shit that doesn’t come to fruition—and most have side-venues pimping some kind of snake oil. I’ve been using carny imagery to describe them for a long time because it fits.

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Kragar  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:12:34pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:13:13pm

Derping along on Twitter …

As for Jane Fonda in this, she wrote a long letter published in Navy Times back when I was in the Navy, apologising for her part in North Vietnamese propaganda (I assume their other outlets published it as well).

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:17:13pm

re: #207 Kragar

The law was altered under the last R administration to narrow the definition of terrorist.

The only reason the right-winger who tried to hijack a train here was charged with terrorism is because he attacked critical infrastructure (a railroad).

Shooting up abortion clinics cannot be charged as terrorism, no matter how many people you kill or what your political agenda is, because the R’s changed the definition of terrorism in the law.

That is why groups such as Army of God can’t be prosecuted as terrorist groups.

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Kragar  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:20:07pm

re: #209 Anymouse 🌹

I ignore any legal definition supplied by Republicans. They’re garbage.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:21:48pm

Welp.

Played three whole minutes of Dark Souls before getting motion sick and having to quit.

I keep trying, but I think it’s just not going to happen.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:24:53pm

re: #210 Kragar

I ignore any legal definition supplied by Republicans. They’re garbage.

Well, I agree the definition they supplied is crap. Terrorism is rooted in political or religious ideology and intended to change behaviours through, well, terror.

Shooting up abortion clinics seeks to do precisely that, and is based on religious ideology. Fits the classic definition of terrorism, but not the current legal one.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:27:46pm
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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:28:25pm

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:31:14pm
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Stanley Sea  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:32:42pm

re: #175 Joe Bacon 🌹

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Belafon  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:33:53pm

re: #215 Anymouse 🌹

Haven’t we been one firing away from ending the investigation for a while now?

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The Ghost of a Flea  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:34:09pm

They had ground venison on sale the other day, so I’m going to try it in a cross-section of dishes:

Ma Po Tofu (ground beef or pork and soft tofu in a broth of salted black beans, chilies and Sichuan pepper)
Taiwanese “fly heads” (ground pork with salted black beans, chopped garlic chives, and oyster sauces)
Eggplant with fish seasonings (fried eggplant topped with ground meat in a sweetened vinegar reduction flavored with ginger and garlic)
Sichuan chopped meat and wild celery (exactly what it says, but flavored with tobanjiang, fermented broad bean and chili sauce)

If it stays on sale, I’ll try some kebab recipes next.

The same company produced wild boar products and antelope, but they’re not on sale.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:35:48pm

re: #215 Anymouse 🌹

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majii  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:36:36pm

re: #184 The Ghost of a Flea

“re: #181 teleskiguy

CCJ is the lower-priced off-brand Vienna Sausage in the by-the-lot store of the alt-right.

Nobody should be buying that shit, and yet the income stream keeps trickling in….”

What I found very interesting about the CCJ article in the Boston Globe was that when a reporter was sent to CCJ’s parents’ home, someone closed the blinds and no one would come to the door. Something hints to me that CCJ’s parents want nothing to do with his mess.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:37:26pm

re: #217 Belafon

Haven’t we been one firing away from ending the investigation for a while now?

Trump himself can’t do it. He has to find a lackey. (Similar to Nixon firing Archibald Cox with Robert Bork.)

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:38:11pm

re: #219 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

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Belafon  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:38:42pm

re: #221 Anymouse 🌹

Trump himself can’t do it. He has to find a lackey. (Similar to Nixon firing Archibald Cox with Robert Bork.)

True, but he can fire Rosenstein, he just can’t seem to do it.

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Belafon  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:42:12pm

I think, at this point, that Democrats would be justified in leaking it. But that should not be our focus. It’s all on Trump. Why won’t he release it? It’s not a failure of Democrats to leak it, it’s a failure of Trump to release it.

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Belafon  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:42:38pm

re: #213 Anymouse 🌹

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The Ghost of a Flea  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:42:54pm

re: #220 majii

My governing suspicion is that he’s never been a particularly pleasant person, and there was a transition point where it wasn’t even politics, just him being unpleasant.

Honestly, I see narcissism in varying degrees in all this “alt-right” stuff. It’s people who really only believe that they’re awesome, a priori. They then adorn themselves with shallowly-held ideas that elevate themselves further and denigrate others not like them, and they devote tremendous time to defiling stuff that makes them feel unimportant. There’s a whole narcissism marketplace—what I above called demimonde—where internet pseudo-intellectuals will tell you that women don’t like you because they’re evil feminist Marxists, or that your resentfulness about not getting sex is “natural” and the woman shouldn’t have said no, and that your mediocrity is actually the product of a conspiracy of all the inferior types in the world to make you feel bad….

It’s porn, basically. All these guys are making porn.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:45:52pm

Not snowing here, and one BIG degree… .

wunderground.com

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:47:40pm

re: #224 Belafon

I think, at this point, that Democrats would be justified in leaking it. But that should not be our focus. It’s all on Trump. Why won’t he release it? It’s not a failure of Democrats to leak it, it’s a failure of Trump to release it.

We could use the Democratic memo the way Nunes should have used his, as a cudgel. As long as it’s not released, we can keep asking the question in the press “What does Trump know and when did he know it?” (Worked with Nixon, and Nixon was way smarter.)

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wheat-dogg  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:47:42pm

re: #179 Charles Johnson

Yikes. The Rage Furby recorded a 45-minute video at his Facebook page, ranting about that Boston Globe article.

Will not be watching. Can’t even.

Whoa. I just read the Globe article. Not very complimentary, so I imagine Rage Furby is really raging now. The truth hurts.

It occurs to me that and Miller were both outcasts in their schools, not unlike some other disaffected boys who take up arms and shoot a whole lot of classmates and teachers. All of them sociopaths.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:52:13pm

I can’t find the link to the Boston Globe article.

As for Chuck’s parents closing a curtain on its reporters, I imagine if people come round asking questions all the time you might want some privacy as well.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:53:19pm
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Belafon  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:54:14pm

I had a thought about Comey, and what he must be feeling right now (and no, there’s no sympathy in my thought). I read that people think Comey made his statement right before the election to show his independence from the upcoming Clinton administration. But I don’t think that’s what he was showing at all. Instead, I think he was trying to show that the men would still be running the country, even though a woman would be president. Instead though, she lost, and the man in the White House is attempting to destroy the integrity and independence of the FBI, his FBI.

That’s why you see Comey quoting others without outright attacking the administration directly. He knows he can’t. If he does, he pretty much proves that he compromised the integrity of the Bureau, kind of proving Trump’s point. So he’s trying to figure out how to do it from the side, and encourage those that are still there to fight. But his misogyny has done damage, not only to the FBI, but to the country as a whole.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:55:12pm

re: #230 Anymouse 🌹

I can’t find the link to the Boston Globe article.

As for Chuck’s parents closing a curtain on its reporters, I imagine if people come round asking questions all the time you might want some privacy as well.

bostonglobe.com

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Single-handed sailor  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:55:38pm

Hah, saw this on Fark about the opioid crisis.

I sort of wonder precisely why Sessions hates cannabis so much. Did it rape his mom or something?

His daughter went to school with Becky.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:56:09pm

Time for lunch. BBL

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 9, 2018 • 8:57:03pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:01:09pm

re: #233 wheat-dogg

bostonglobe.com

Thanks, though I can’t read it because I don’t have a subscription. I am blocked from the article.

The gist I get from reading commentary is that Rage Furby is pissed.

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Belafon  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:01:37pm
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majii  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:03:47pm

re: #232 Belafon

“So he’s trying to figure out how to do it from the side, and encourage those that are still there to fight. But his misogyny has done damage, not only to the FBI, but to the country as a whole.”

I read that Comey’s wife may have played a role in his suddenly deciding to send a letter to Congress about HRC so close to the 2016 election date. Comey’s wife is alleged to have told him that she just couldn’t countenance HRC winning the election and becoming POTUS. I think Comey has come to regret his decision. I can’t speak for others, but as far as I’m concerned, I will continue to blame him for the role he played in helping to elect Trump. His wife has to eat stinky, rotten crow, too. Her pressuring him to do “something” to stop HRC from becoming POTUS cost her husband his job and helped paint a huge target on his back which encouraged members of his own party to attack him.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:05:30pm

re: #239 majii

My wife has a recipe Website with a recipe for crow. Maybe she should send him a link to it.

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jaunte  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:07:06pm
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Belafon  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:07:28pm

It seems that Remington is having so much trouble selling guns, they’ll have to declare bankruptcy:

Remington is seeking debtor-in-possession financing that will allow it to fund its operations once it files for bankruptcy, the sources said. The size of the financing and timing of Remington’s bankruptcy plans could not be learned.

Some potential financing sources, including credit funds and banks, have balked at coming to Remington’s aid because of the reputation risk associated with such a move, according to the sources.

Remington, which is controlled by buyout firm Cerberus Capital Management LP, was abandoned by some of Cerberus’ private equity fund investors after one of its Bushmaster rifles was used in the Sandy Hook elementary school shooting in Connecticut in 2012 that killed 20 children and six adults.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:08:19pm

re: #235 wheat-dogg

Time for lunch. BBL

LOL

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Belafon  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:08:58pm

re: #241 jaunte

Then, it seems, the country is still not quite under their control if we’re getting them to get rid of staff. That’s why we can’t give into fear or fatigue.

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Belafon  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:11:39pm

re: #239 majii

“So he’s trying to figure out how to do it from the side, and encourage those that are still there to fight. But his misogyny has done damage, not only to the FBI, but to the country as a whole.”

I read that Comey’s wife may have played a role in his suddenly deciding to send a letter to Congress about HRC so close to the 2016 election date. Comey’s wife is alleged to have told him that she just couldn’t countenance HRC winning the election and becoming POTUS. I think Comey has come to regret his decision. I can’t speak for others, but as far as I’m concerned, I will continue to blame him for the role he played in helping to elect Trump. His wife has to eat stinky, rotten crow, too. Her pressuring him to do “something” to stop HRC from becoming POTUS cost her husband his job and helped paint a huge target on his back which encouraged members of his own party to attack him.

He doesn’t deserve any sympathy. All he can be now is that man who sold his soul telling others not to do the same.

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MsJ  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:12:39pm

re: #233 wheat-dogg

bostonglobe.com

So he admits to being a troll for his entire life.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:15:48pm

re: #231 goddamnedfrank

I’m trying to keep an even keel about this subject and not fantasize too much about very small orbital kinetic strikes or conspiracies to kick these men in the balls every time they’re in public for the next year…but…

…who turned that fucker into Shorteyes Holmes, with his “it’s rare this kind of criminal to blahblahblah”?

It’s fake-thoughtful bullshit. “Only once” or “only twice” isn’t a fucking moral measure, it’s a measure of Woody Allen feeling able to pull it off. Opportunistic is opportunistic is opportunistic.

This is like saying a serial killer who only killed three people and fucked their corpses is more conscientious than Gary Ridgeway…a motherfucking non sequitur.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:17:35pm

Paul Begley: Obama Is Leading An Illuminati Plot To Assassinate Trump (goes to Right Wing Watch, more at the link):

Right-wing pastor Paul Begley, who we first became aware of when he claimed to have insider information that First Lady Melania Obama ordered the White House to be “completely exorcised” of demons before she moved in, streamed a video on YouTube earlier this week in which he asserted that Barack Obama is leading an Illuminati plot to assassinate President Trump.

“We know right now, folks, that this was treasonous,” Begley said. “They’ve tried to hijack our nation, they tried to override our election and they are trying to destroy our Constitution. This is a cabal and by their own text messages, they even say they have secret societies and they say that these societies are meeting and these are top level people of several different U.S. government agencies working together as an Illuminati, working together as a cabal, to overthrow the United States of America.”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:18:14pm

re: #242 Belafon

I’m not shedding tears over this news.

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majii  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:19:58pm

re: #246 MsJ

“So he admits to being a troll for his entire life.”

It appears to me that he’s always had an intense craving for attention. His parents wanted him to attend a public high school, but he insisted on attending Milton. He applied for, and received, a scholarship to Milton as a day-student. Based on the BG article, those who attended Milton at the time CCJ was there hate his guts. None of them had anything good to say about him.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:21:59pm
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William Lewis  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:23:43pm

re: #249 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m not shedding tears over this news.

Worst case, all the formerly independent companies bought up by Cerberus Group will be sold off. In the case of Marlin, this might well be a good thing as perhaps they can get back to making very nice hunting firearms like the 336 with the quality they had prior to their near destruction by Cerberus.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:25:09pm

re: #237 Anymouse 🌹

Thanks, though I can’t read it because I don’t have a subscription. I am blocked from the article.

The gist I get from reading commentary is that Rage Furby is pissed.

I had no trouble, because I haven’t used up my free allotment for the month, I guess.

The gist is Johnson was not liked at his prep school, because he was a dick. He was not poor, despite his claiming he was. Dershowitz is quoted as saying CCJ has not changed much since he 16, a back handed compliment IMO.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:26:27pm

Steve Bannon warns: ‘Anti-patriarchy movement’ is going to be bigger than the tea party

“I think it’s going to unfold like the tea party, only bigger,” the former White House chief strategist told Bloomberg News. “It’s not Me Too. It’s not just sexual harassment. It’s an anti-patriarchy movement.”

He added: “Time’s up on 10,000 years of recorded history. This is coming. This is real.”

cnbc.com

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Belafon  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:27:59pm

re: #254 Anymouse 🌹

Steve Bannon warns: ‘Anti-patriarchy movement’ is going to be bigger than the tea party

“I think it’s going to unfold like the tea party, only bigger,” the former White House chief strategist told Bloomberg News. “It’s not Me Too. It’s not just sexual harassment. It’s an anti-patriarchy movement.”

He added: “Time’s up on 10,000 years of recorded history. This is coming. This is real.”

cnbc.com

After 10,000 years, we have an insecure man-child that is just one tantrum away from wiping out all life on earth. It’s about time the rule of the patriarchy ended.

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Belafon  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:33:33pm

The US, as we’ve discovered, may not be the best country to lead this new age in its current state (though it has the potential to be changed). But the next country in line, China, and the country that would like to be the leader, Russia, are going to resist it even more our man-children here.

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teleskiguy  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:36:09pm

re: #256 Belafon

Before that conflict is decided there will be a world war over fresh water.

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MsJ  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:36:54pm

re: #250 majii

“So he admits to being a troll for his entire life.”

It appears to me that he’s always had an intense craving for attention. His parents wanted him to attend a public high school, but he insisted on attending Milton. He applied for, and received, a scholarship to Milton as a day-student. Based on the BG article, those who attended Milton at the time CCJ was there hate his guts. None of them had anything good to say about him.

A normal person who craves acceptable would alter their behavior. I think he liked being the troll more than he craves acceptance.

You’re right. Attention trumped the acceptance…that he supposedly wanted.

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VegasGolfer  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:37:55pm
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Kragar  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:39:13pm
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allegro  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:40:17pm

re: #242 Belafon

Remington, which is controlled by buyout firm Cerberus Capital Management LP, was abandoned by some of Cerberus’ private equity fund investors after one of its Bushmaster rifles was used in the Sandy Hook elementary school shooting in Connecticut in 2012 that killed 20 children and six adults.

Interesting. Someone(s) who could do something out of their horror of this event, did. They did what they could do in a quiet way and it’s taking down a company, an iconic symbol.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:41:05pm

re: #257 teleskiguy

Before that conflict is decided there will be a world war over fresh water.

Such a war though wouldn’t between national powers though. It would be more likely a free-for-all between individuals.

For example, unless someone conquered the USA and Canada, they couldn’t do a whole lot with the Great Lakes. The Lakes will still be here.

The same with the Ogallala Aquifer: Texas and Oklahoma have drained their end of it, while Nebraska and South Dakota are preserving our end (it currently measures as having more water than average).

People in Texas and Oklahoma can’t take our end of the Aquifer back to Texas, so they have to either move here (climate or water refugees), buy water (Nebraska and South Dakota prohibit that), or try to do something like make war on the states on the north end.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:43:18pm

re: #261 allegro

Interesting. Someone(s) who could do something out of their horror of this event, did. They did what they could do in a quiet way and it’s taking down a company, an iconic symbol.

Interesting note: Dan Quayle is on the Cerebus board, as the Chairman of Global Investments.

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MsJ  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:45:37pm

re: #262 Anymouse 🌹

Don’t discount the aquifer being depleted or polluted into unusability. Both are possible which would hurt half the country. Then you get water war games.

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allegro  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:48:05pm

re: #259 VegasGolfer

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:51:28pm

re: #264 MsJ

Don’t discount the aquifer being depleted or polluted into unusability. Both are possible which would hurt half the country. Then you get water war games.

Oh I agree, which is why the slugfest in the courts is going on here about the Keystone XL Pipeline (and both the Republicans in the Unicameral and TransCanada keep losing). Amongst other things, the unification of normally disparate groups (hunters and fishers, conservationists, ranchers, property owners, farmers, Native Americans, &c) has been entirely successful in blocking the project.

Rumour control around here has it that TransCanada may actually abandon the project because resistance in Nebraska is too strong to overcome.

The fight against the pipeline also launched Jane Kleeb into politics (now the chairwoman of the Nebraska Democratic Party).

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:53:34pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 9, 2018 • 9:56:42pm

re: #242 Belafon

It seems that Remington is having so much trouble selling guns, they’ll have to declare bankruptcy:

Gee, that’s a real shame. Just waiting for the Tiny Penis Club to blame this on Obama…

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Cheechako  Feb 9, 2018 • 10:05:47pm

re: #194 Joe Bacon 🌹

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 9, 2018 • 10:21:17pm

re: #269 Cheechako

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 9, 2018 • 10:36:54pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 9, 2018 • 10:40:42pm
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ObserverArt  Feb 10, 2018 • 8:36:06am

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