An Awesome Live Solo Performance by Becca Stevens, Playing Charango in a Kitchen in Madrid: Stevie Wonder’s “As”

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The instrument she’s playing here is a small Andean guitar-like thingie called a charango, originally made from armadillo shells. And she’s really good on it.

Acústico de BECCA STEVENS en la tienda de “EL PARACAIDISTA” en el barrio de Malasaña, Madrid. Nos toca el tema “Stevie Wonder”.
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1
Charles Johnson  Feb 10, 2018 • 7:54:41pm

In other news, I got carded today at the supermarket buying some wine. Made my day.

2
JordanRules  Feb 10, 2018 • 8:07:22pm
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bill d. (b.d.)  Feb 10, 2018 • 8:10:10pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

In other news, I got carded today at the supermarket buying some wine. Made my day.

Maybe they card everyone that buys Boone’s Farm?

// :)

Great music choice, as always……Do you do much recorded work these days, I’d hope you’d pimp your own stuff?

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bill d. (b.d.)  Feb 10, 2018 • 8:11:12pm

re: #2 JordanRules

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Crosby probably got along better with those guys.

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Belafon  Feb 10, 2018 • 8:13:27pm

Question for the musicians here. My youngest, who turned 13 today, is writing his own music, currently on Finale. For those who might remember, I put up a link to a song he wrote for Halloween. He’s a smart kid, and is willing to learn what he needs to (one of the things he wants for his birthday - the party is next saturday - is a book on Unity programming). One of the things he wants to do now is record sounds and mix those into music he writes. I am going to buy him a recorder, but I also need to find software he can mix with. It won’t matter much if he has to use one program for generating the instruments, like the Finale he’s using now, and another for mixing. I was wondering if anyone here has used any type of mixing software at home? Preferably cheap. On the curve of simplicity versus features, it can lean toward features.

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makeitstop  Feb 10, 2018 • 8:19:45pm

re: #5 Belafon

Question for the musicians here. My youngest, who turned 13 today, is writing his own music, currently on Finale. For those who might remember, I put up a link to a song he wrote for Halloween. He’s a smart kid, and is willing to learn what he needs to (one of the things he wants for his birthday - the party is next saturday - is a book on Unity programming). One of the things he wants to do now is record sounds and mix those into music he writes. I am going to buy him a recorder, but I also need to find software he can mix with. It won’t matter much if he has to use one program for generating the instruments, like the Finale he’s using now, and another for mixing. I was wondering if anyone here has used any type of mixing software at home? Preferably cheap. On the curve of simplicity versus features, it can lean toward features.

I’ve used a program called Acid since about 1997, nice program. I use the full version, but they sell a scaled-down version that’s pretty reasonably priced - and you can download a demo for free to see if he likes it.

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meteor  Feb 10, 2018 • 8:21:31pm

Oh snap

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austin_blue  Feb 10, 2018 • 8:22:55pm

re: #5 Belafon

Question for the musicians here. My youngest, who turned 13 today, is writing his own music, currently on Finale. For those who might remember, I put up a link to a song he wrote for Halloween. He’s a smart kid, and is willing to learn what he needs to (one of the things he wants for his birthday - the party is next saturday - is a book on Unity programming). One of the things he wants to do now is record sounds and mix those into music he writes. I am going to buy him a recorder, but I also need to find software he can mix with. It won’t matter much if he has to use one program for generating the instruments, like the Finale he’s using now, and another for mixing. I was wondering if anyone here has used any type of mixing software at home? Preferably cheap. On the curve of simplicity versus features, it can lean toward features.

Logic and Reason. A dongle can plug a small keyboard into the computer. She Who Must Be Obeyed has the full suite. It’s Killer Bee.

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MsJ  Feb 10, 2018 • 8:23:31pm

What is the Washington Press? Is it reputable?

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MsJ  Feb 10, 2018 • 8:24:40pm

Someone downstairs asked about medals. I answered there.

re: #198 MsJ

Some medal presentations are tomorrow. The Slopestyle gold went to the US and bronze and silver to Canada and they have their medal presentations tomorrow at “medal plaza” fast from the slopes.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 10, 2018 • 8:24:57pm

Well, I picked up my Home Pod at the Apple Store this afternoon. Did not take more than a couple minutes to set it up.

I was amazed at how heavy it is—over 5 pounds. I put it though several sound tests to adjust the volume, playing the soundtracks from The Black Hole, The Rocketeer and The Towering Inferno. The sound range is amazing.

It’s dependent on Siri, doesn’t have the depth of Alexa and it doesn’t have any specific apps tailored for it. It’s also locked into the Apple ecosystem. Another minus is that it’s news feed allows you to select only NPR, Washington Post, CNN or…FAUX.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 10, 2018 • 8:27:56pm

re: #9 MsJ

Not sure. Definitely left leaning.

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retired cynic  Feb 10, 2018 • 8:30:26pm

Just heard a song from Ruthie Foster and I was blown away. Don’t get around much, and had not even heard her name. I’ll remember it now!

Phenomenal Woman - Ruthie Foster Live at Antone’s

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 10, 2018 • 8:32:38pm

Well, looking at my Amazon account, they offer a recommended books section that you can send to other people (kind of like a wedding registry or something).

Yeah, I’m not going to send the list of books they suggest to anyone. Nope.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 10, 2018 • 8:34:17pm

Dim Jim has an article calling on ousting Jeff Sessions “to save the Republic”

Has Beauregard outlived his usefulness to the RW?

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 10, 2018 • 8:34:44pm

re: #9 MsJ

What is the Washington Press? Is it reputable?

A whois lookup yields this. (Pty, Ltd. doesn’t really sound like an American company)

Domain Name: washingtonpress.com
Registrar: FABULOUS (dot) COM PTY LTD.
Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID: 411
Whois Server: whois.fabulous.com
Referral URL: (link removed by me)
Name Server: ns1.dnsaddress.com
Name Server: ns2.dnsaddress.com
Status: clientTransferProhibited icann.org
Updated Date: 05-jul-2016
Creation Date: 09-aug-2000
Expiration Date: 09-aug-2017

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 10, 2018 • 8:36:05pm

re: #16 Anymouse 🌹

The company “Fabulous” is a domain monitisation Website.

I’m guessing washingtonpress is a iffy scheme rather than a “liberal Website”

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Targetpractice  Feb 10, 2018 • 8:37:44pm

re: #15 wheat-dogg

Dim Jim has an article calling on ousting Jeff Sessions “to save the Republic”

Has Beauregard outlived his usefulness to the RW?

They reached that point months ago, when they realized that he wasn’t going to break his recusal to fire Mueller, but before they realized Rosenstein wasn’t their fall guy either. Now they’ve no real idea how the fuck to thread the needle here, but they’re sure whatever is done to fire Mueller will be totally justified and for the good of the nation.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 10, 2018 • 8:38:50pm

re: #17 Anymouse 🌹

The company “Fabulous” is a domain monitisation Website.

I’m guessing washingtonpress is a iffy scheme rather than a “liberal Website”

Fabulous (dot) com gives a whois lookup to a company in Australia.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 10, 2018 • 8:41:23pm

re: #18 Targetpractice

They reached that point months ago, when they realized that he wasn’t going to break his recusal to fire Mueller, but before they realized Rosenstein wasn’t their fall guy either. Now they’ve no real idea how the fuck to thread the needle here, but they’re sure whatever is done to fire Mueller will be totally justified and for the good of the nation.

I imagine they’re all in a flurry about Mueller getting closer and closer to disgracing their fearless leader, who doesn’t give a shit about them anyway.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 10, 2018 • 8:43:13pm

Trump names an ambassdor for Australia - Adm. Harry B. Harris.

He is a former commander of Gitmo, and once said that suicide by prisoners held there was a form of asymmetrical warfare.

Wonderful guy to represent us.

wonkette.com

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 10, 2018 • 8:46:05pm

re: #21 Anymouse 🌹

Well he’s already insulted Australia once, why not do it again?

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Targetpractice  Feb 10, 2018 • 8:46:37pm

Well folks, we have our answer. The real culprit behind the disgrace that Rob Porter brought upon the White House is…a man who’s been out of office for over a year:

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MsJ  Feb 10, 2018 • 8:46:58pm

WTF is this shit?

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jaunte  Feb 10, 2018 • 8:48:00pm

My grand-daughter (7) recently got in trouble for this.
She refused to dance with a boy, offering to dance with a girl instead.
Her gym teacher insisted she dance with a boy.
She offered to dance with her brother.
That wasn’t satisfactory to the gym teacher.
She continued to refuse.
Her mother was called to the school.
Her mother made the principal and the gym teacher see reason.
Lets hear it for independent women.

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ObserverArt  Feb 10, 2018 • 8:49:19pm

re: #6 makeitstop

I’ve used a program called Acid since about 1997, nice program. I use the full version, but they sell a scaled-down version that’s pretty reasonably priced - and you can download a demo for free to see if he likes it.

Also check out Reaper. It is very inexpensive for single, non-commercial use. Loads of features.

https://www.reaper.fm/

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Belafon  Feb 10, 2018 • 8:50:55pm

re: #24 MsJ

WTF is this shit?

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Police attracts law and order types. I’m not entirely sure how we do it, but we need to encourage more people to the left of center to join the police and other law enforcement groups.

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austin_blue  Feb 10, 2018 • 8:51:09pm

re: #20 wheat-dogg

I imagine they’re all in a flurry about Mueller getting closer and closer to disgracing their fearless leader, who doesn’t give a shit about them anyway.

Just wait until the money laundering charges come down. Don Jr. talked about how the Trump Organization got significant funding from Russia years ago.

Chickens. Roosting. Coming home. Flipping a $40 million property for $100 million? Kickback and laundering, straight up. Drumpf is so fucked. Blatant is as blatant does.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 10, 2018 • 8:51:12pm

re: #7 meteor

Oh snap

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Ouch!! I felt that slap through my smart phone.

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Targetpractice  Feb 10, 2018 • 8:51:39pm

re: #24 MsJ

WTF is this shit?

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Proof that America’s slide into fascism isn’t something new, it’s been brewing under the surface for years.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 10, 2018 • 8:52:29pm

re: #23 Targetpractice

Beyond stupid. Can’t believe she was a judge.

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austin_blue  Feb 10, 2018 • 8:53:51pm

re: #25 jaunte

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My grand-daughter (7) recently got in trouble for this.
She refused to dance with a boy, offering to dance with a girl instead.
Her gym teacher insisted she dance with a boy.
She offered to dance with her brother.
That wasn’t satisfactory to the gym teacher.
She continued to refuse.
Her mother was called to the school.
Her mother made the principal and the gym teacher see reason.
Lets hear it for independent women.

Welcome to the United States of The Handmaid’s Tale.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 10, 2018 • 8:54:09pm

re: #28 austin_blue

Just wait until the money laundering charges come down. Don Jr. talked about how the Trump Organization got significant funding from Russia years ago.

Chickens. Roosting. Coming home. Flipping a $40 million property for $100 million? Kickback and laundering, straight up. Drumpf is so fucked. Blatant is as blatant does.

The real estate deals will be bring them down faster than the collusion charges, IMO. Real estate leaves a paper trail. Working with enemy agents is less concrete.

Though with these idiots, they probably talked about all of it in emails.

34
DodgerFan1988  Feb 10, 2018 • 8:54:10pm

BFF

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jaunte  Feb 10, 2018 • 8:55:21pm

re: #32 austin_blue

Welcome to the United States of The Handmaid’s Tale.

Now playing in the Houston suburbs.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 10, 2018 • 8:57:29pm

re: #30 Targetpractice

Proof that America’s slide into fascism isn’t something new, it’s been brewing under the surface for years.

As noted in that Raw Story article about Porter being Obama’s fault because Porter worked for Republicans before Trump hired him.

Her next guest on the show was Sebastian Gorka.

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austin_blue  Feb 10, 2018 • 8:57:34pm

re: #35 jaunte

Now playing in the Houston suburbs.

Dan Patrick country. He must be so stoked!

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majii  Feb 10, 2018 • 8:57:40pm

re: #24 MsJ

“WTF is this shit?”

Life in the U.S. under Trump. Those who are alleged to have “problems” understanding why some Americans don’t trust law enforcement only need to read this Guardian article. Nothing in it surprises me. Just because someone takes an oath to serve and protect doesn’t mean that individual leaves his/her prejudices behind when s/he puts on the uniform, and this Guardian article provides some proof that this is indeed the case.

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Targetpractice  Feb 10, 2018 • 8:57:47pm

re: #31 Patricia Kayden

Beyond stupid. Can’t believe she was a judge.

It’s totally fitting with her character as someone who believes to this day that her Senate campaign was “sabotaged,” rather than her creating such a laughable first impression that nobody took her seriously.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 10, 2018 • 8:58:37pm

re: #24 MsJ

WTF is this shit?

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This is nothing new. LAPD paired with the John Birch Society front group “Western Goals” back in the 70s and 80s to target liberal groups.

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ObserverArt  Feb 10, 2018 • 8:58:40pm

A bit of an update on the police officers shot and killed in Westerville Oh, Columbus suburb.

I think we’ve seen this before…all too often.

Cincinnati. com - 911 caller in Westerville: ‘Please help, please help’ and ‘my daughter is in there’

The officers may have walked into a “potential domestic” violence situation, authorities said.

Police received the 911 call at 12:02 p.m., officials said. The caller hung up, prompting the police response to the apartment complex on the outskirts of Westerville.

A female voice can be heard crying in a 911 call to dispatchers before the caller disconnects. In subsequent calls with dispatchers, the woman identified Quentin Smith as the man who shot at the officers.

The caller says, “please help, please help” and “my husband shot the police officers” and “my daughter is in there.”

The dispatcher then asks the woman where she is and she replies she is hiding in the bushes.

Police have not publicly identified the suspect. Many details remain unknown publicly about how the events transpired. Police did say the suspect was transported from the scene.

The Crosswind Drive home where the officers were called Saturday had a recent history of domestic violence and disturbances, records show.

Westerville Police had been called as recently as three weeks ago for a reported disturbance. The home’s residents, however, told police at the time there was nothing wrong.

Smith was identified as one of the parties during previous calls to the residence.

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MsJ  Feb 10, 2018 • 8:59:11pm
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austin_blue  Feb 10, 2018 • 8:59:33pm

re: #36 Anymouse 🌹

As noted in that Raw Story article about Porter being Obama’s fault because Porter worked for Republicans before Trump hired him.

Her next guest on the show was Sebastian Gorka.

It’s a Topsy Turvy Gilbert and Sullivan universe.

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Targetpractice  Feb 10, 2018 • 8:59:55pm

re: #36 Anymouse 🌹

As noted in that Raw Story article about Porter being Obama’s fault because Porter worked for Republicans before Trump hired him.

Her next guest on the show was Sebastian Gorka.

Much like Flynn, they want to blame Obama because actually holding Trump or his underlings accountable for their actions is a total contradiction in the party of “personal responsibility.”

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 10, 2018 • 9:00:52pm

re: #24 MsJ

WTF is this shit?

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They’ll have to be more careful next time when they want to partner with neo-Nazi groups. They’ll have to partner with Twitter users.

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Targetpractice  Feb 10, 2018 • 9:01:06pm

re: #41 ObserverArt

A bit of an update on the police officers shot and killed in Westerville Oh, Columbus suburb.

I think we’ve seen this before…all too often.

Cincinnati. com - 911 caller in Westerville: ‘Please help, please help’ and ‘my daughter is in there’

Suspect “transported from the scene”? Oh yeah, he’s white.

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teleskiguy  Feb 10, 2018 • 9:01:49pm

Xanax in sound form.

#7

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bill d. (b.d.)  Feb 10, 2018 • 9:03:48pm

re: #23 Targetpractice

Well folks, we have our answer. The real culprit behind the disgrace that Rob Porter brought upon the White House is…a man who’s been out of office for over a year:

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lol, so the time before Kelly became COS didn’t count because of somehow and then it didn’t matter after that because Kelly was really busy….

any idiot that buys into that bs is an unabashed, freaking moron who needs to be publiclly mocked.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 10, 2018 • 9:03:54pm

I hate flight delays.

That is all.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Feb 10, 2018 • 9:06:21pm

re: #42 MsJ

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Can I have 3 guesses?

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Stanley Sea  Feb 10, 2018 • 9:06:32pm

re: #49 wheat-dogg

Coconut creme brulee.

That is all.

Sorry friend.

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Targetpractice  Feb 10, 2018 • 9:07:35pm

re: #48 bill d. (b.d.)

lol, so the time before Kelly became COS didn’t count because of somehow and then it didn’t matter after that because Kelly was really busy….

any idiot that buys into that bs is an unabashed, freaking moron who needs to be publiclly mocked.

According to their argument (as I understand it), Porter being hired a year ago and working during that time under a temporary security clearance was not due to the FBI practicing due diligence or the fact that so many of the people working in this administration are unabashed liars. No, it was all a grand scheme by the “Deep State” to drag their feet so that these people’s clearances would expire and cause a major problem for the White House. The fact that Kelly and Prius before him did not take the situation seriously until it was discovered a year later that Porter was denied a clearance due to being a wife-beater is supposed to be totally Obama’s fault.

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austin_blue  Feb 10, 2018 • 9:08:46pm

Hey, Charlie! Your boy from Silverthorne just won Gold!

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majii  Feb 10, 2018 • 9:08:48pm

re: #48 bill d. (b.d.)

“any idiot that buys into that bs is an unabashed, freaking moron who needs to be publiclly mocked.”

Pirro and others at Fox give their viewers what they want——anti-Obama animus that serve as BS-filled reasons to never hold Dear Leader responsible for anything he says/does.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Feb 10, 2018 • 9:11:11pm

re: #52 Targetpractice

According to their argument (as I understand it), Porter being hired a year ago and working during that time under a temporary security clearance was not due to the FBI practicing due diligence or the fact that so many of the people working in this administration are unabashed liars. No, it was all a grand scheme by the “Deep State” to drag their feet so that these people’s clearances would expire and cause a major problem for the White House. The fact that Kelly and Prius before him did not take the situation seriously until it was discovered a year later that Porter was denied a clearance due to being a wife-beater is supposed to be totally Obama’s fault.

Couldn’t the whole thing have been averted by not hiring a wife beater in the first place?

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 10, 2018 • 9:11:31pm

re: #54 majii

“any idiot that buys into that bs is an unabashed, freaking moron who needs to be publiclly mocked.”

Pirro and others at Fox give their viewers what they want——anti-Obama animus that serve as BS-filled reasons to never hold Dear Leader responsible for anything he says/does.

That would be the Kelly who Obama fired, and recommended to Trump he not hire.

About the only mocking you can do to someone who buys all the crap FOX sells is to remind them “Obama lives rent free in your head.”

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bill d. (b.d.)  Feb 10, 2018 • 9:13:15pm

re: #54 majii

“any idiot that buys into that bs is an unabashed, freaking moron who needs to be publiclly mocked.”

Pirro and others at Fox give their viewers what they want——anti-Obama animus that serve as BS-filled reasons to never hold Dear Leader responsible for anything he says/does.

I want to sit down a FoxNews viewer and have them explain to me how this is Obama’s fault.

I will have follow ups….

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makeitstop  Feb 10, 2018 • 9:13:49pm

re: #51 Stanley Sea

Coconut creme brulee.

That is all.

Sorry friend.

I had that when we were out to dinner last weekend.

Creme brulee is my jam, I get it any time it’s on the menu. More often than not it’s pretty good. The best ever was a maple syrup creme brulee I had in Montreal. I’d go back there just so I could order it again.

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Targetpractice  Feb 10, 2018 • 9:13:59pm

re: #56 Anymouse 🌹

That would be the Kelly who Obama fired, and recommended to Trump he not hire.

About the only mocking you can do to someone who buys all the crap FOX sells is to remind them “Obama lives rent free in your head.”

Flynn was the one who was fired and Donny advised not to hire. And folks in the audience will remember that the Faux crowd have argued since that it was also Obama’s fault because Flynn’s security clearance was renewed in ‘16.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 10, 2018 • 9:14:29pm

re: #51 Stanley Sea

Coconut creme brulee.

That is all.

Sorry friend.

It’s just annoying. I don’t have a connecting flight, and have no real agenda for the day. But I got to the airport way early and now the flight is delayed an hour. I guarantee if I’d waited to the last minute to arrive, the plane would leave on time.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Feb 10, 2018 • 9:15:06pm

Character is key:

How many people did Obama have to later fire after it was discovered they were wife beaters?

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JordanRules  Feb 10, 2018 • 9:15:30pm

I was thinking that it’s kinda crazy that 45 spent his own money on that ad about the Central Park Five all those years ago considering how cheap he is.

Racism is a helluva drug.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 10, 2018 • 9:16:08pm

re: #50 bill d. (b.d.)

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Can I have 3 guesses?

Starts with an N, ends with an A and has a K in the middle somewhere.

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MsJ  Feb 10, 2018 • 9:16:35pm

Damn. They cancelled the woman’s slopestyle prelims. All 27 will run for medals tomorrow.

Too much wind.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 10, 2018 • 9:17:03pm

re: #62 JordanRules

I’d bet anything it was actually his corporations money.

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MsJ  Feb 10, 2018 • 9:17:08pm

re: #50 bill d. (b.d.)

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Can I have 3 guesses?

First two don’t count.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 10, 2018 • 9:17:30pm

re: #59 Targetpractice

Flynn was the one who was fired and Donny advised not to hire. And folks in the audience will remember that the Faux crowd have argued since that it was also Obama’s fault because Flynn’s security clearance was renewed in ‘16.

It’s like buying a used car with mechanical trouble. The owner tells you the car needs new brakes. You buy the car anyway, then have an accident because you didn’t fix the brakes. So you blame the original owner for the accident.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 10, 2018 • 9:18:35pm

re: #59 Targetpractice

Flynn was the one who was fired and Donny advised not to hire. And folks in the audience will remember that the Faux crowd have argued since that it was also Obama’s fault because Flynn’s security clearance was renewed in ‘16.

Correct. I was mistaken in my cast of rogues who is who.

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Belafon  Feb 10, 2018 • 9:18:40pm

re: #32 austin_blue

Welcome to the United States of The Handmaid’s Tale.

Those rules aren’t new.

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Targetpractice  Feb 10, 2018 • 9:18:49pm

re: #61 bill d. (b.d.)

Character is key:

How many people did Obama have to later fire after it was discovered they were wife beaters?

In 16 years (Dubya & Obama), there was not a single domestic abuse scandal.

Since Trump took office, there have been 5.

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MsJ  Feb 10, 2018 • 9:18:58pm

re: #60 wheat-dogg

It’s just annoying. I don’t have a connecting flight, and have no real agenda for the day. But I got to the airport way early and now the flight is delayed an hour. I guarantee if I’d waited to the last minute to arrive, the plane would leave on time.

So it’s *your* fault everyone else is delayed. Hrumph!

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wheat-dogg  Feb 10, 2018 • 9:19:08pm

re: #63 Eclectic Cyborg

Starts with an N, ends with an A and has a K in the middle somewhere.

Nakamura?
//

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bill d. (b.d.)  Feb 10, 2018 • 9:19:09pm

re: #63 Eclectic Cyborg

Starts with an N, ends with an A and has a K in the middle somewhere.

I’m guessing the really big country that was banned from this Olympics and has a history of f*cking with other country’s computer stuff.

i.e. the bald shirtless guy who gave us President Trump

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jaunte  Feb 10, 2018 • 9:19:51pm

re: #62 JordanRules

I was thinking that it’s kinda crazy that 45 spent his own money on that ad about the Central Park Five all those years ago considering how cheap he is.

Racism is a helluva drug.

I was thinking that was one of his first forays into gathering his political base.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Feb 10, 2018 • 9:19:55pm

re: #70 Targetpractice

In 16 years (Dubya & Obama), there was not a single domestic abuse scandal.

Since Trump took office, there have been 5.

The fish rots from the head down

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wheat-dogg  Feb 10, 2018 • 9:19:59pm

re: #71 MsJ

So it’s *your* fault everyone else is delayed. Hrumph!

No doubt. lol

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MsJ  Feb 10, 2018 • 9:20:29pm

re: #63 Eclectic Cyborg

Starts with an N, ends with an A and has a K in the middle somewhere.

I’m thinking this could be a joint venture. Alot of folks will be bringing home a remembrance of the games. I hope everyone brought burners.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Feb 10, 2018 • 9:22:06pm

re: #77 MsJ

I’m thinking this could be a joint venture. Alot of folks will be bringing home a remembrance of the games. I hope everyone brought burners.

I’m assuming that North Korea is being double plus good right now for propaganda purposes.

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Targetpractice  Feb 10, 2018 • 9:22:13pm

re: #67 wheat-dogg

It’s like buying a used car with mechanical trouble. The owner tells you the car needs new brakes. You buy the car anyway, then have an accident because you didn’t fix the brakes. So you blame the original owner for the accident.

Your neighbor puts his car in the garage and doesn’t take it out again because of mechanical issues. When you query about buying the car, he advises against buying it because of said issues. You ignore his warning and buy the car off him anyway. Then the issues crop up and your suddenly find yourself on the side of the road during a torrential storm with a dead car and no way home.

So what do you do? Do you acknowledge that you bought a car with known issues and kept driving it without addressing those issues because you liked it so much? Fuck no, you chew your neighbor out for not stopping you from buying the car and accuse him of knowingly selling you a lemon just to make you look bad.

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MsJ  Feb 10, 2018 • 9:23:54pm

re: #78 bill d. (b.d.)

I’m assuming that North Korea is being double plus good right now for propaganda purposes.

Well, Kimmy’s sister is there blowing CNN away. And Mikey Pence was afraid to be by the wimmens, so all is going as planned. 🙄🙄

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 10, 2018 • 9:25:00pm

re: #57 bill d. (b.d.)

I want to sit down a FoxNews viewer and have them explain to me how this is Obama’s fault.

I will have follow ups….

I’m sure I got family members who will believe whatever FAUX tells them.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Feb 10, 2018 • 9:25:13pm

re: #70 Targetpractice

In 16 years (Dubya & Obama), there was not a single domestic abuse scandal.

Since Trump took office, there have been 5.

When you elect a POTUS who is only famous for firing people he’d better fill up his staff with easy outs.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 10, 2018 • 9:27:51pm

Pastor Sought in Sexual Assault of a Girl (goes to KTLA)

The too-long, didn’t-read version is he sat outside the hotel and watched two girls and did things inappropriate for Mr. Johnson’s family-oriented Website. He then broke into the hotel room and sexually assaulted one of them (they are aged 10 and 12).

The girls are part of a tourist group from China.

The pastor’s church put up a video of him saying he was innocent and would turn himself in (guess what he didn’t do).

The police are now looking for him.

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allegro  Feb 10, 2018 • 9:27:57pm

re: #51 Stanley Sea

Coconut creme brulee.

That is all.

Sorry friend.

Want. That sounds amazing. Toasted coconut on top…

85
wheat-dogg  Feb 10, 2018 • 9:28:30pm

I know, I’ll pull out my laptop to do some work. That will bring that plane in within 10 minutes!

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bill d. (b.d.)  Feb 10, 2018 • 9:29:59pm

re: #80 MsJ

Well, Kimmy’s sister is there blowing CNN away. And Mikey Pence was afraid to be by the wimmens, so all is going as planned. 🙄🙄

OMG Pence had to sit next to a Nork!

Shame with all of that BS bravado Pence couldn’t even look her in the eye, let alone shake her hand.

Trump and Pence remind me of Farkus and his toadie from A Christmas Story

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majii  Feb 10, 2018 • 9:33:47pm

re: #83 Anymouse 🌹

“The pastor’s church put up a video of him saying he was innocent and would turn himself in (guess what he didn’t do).”

“The police are now looking for him.”

It pisses me off that he’s asking for “prayers” while saying he was “in the wrong place at the wrong time.” I’m glad there’s video surveillance that shows him at the m/hotel. He’s now saying he plans to turn himself in and will go to the PD with his lawyer. I’m not holding my breath waiting for him to show up.

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austin_blue  Feb 10, 2018 • 9:34:02pm

re: #86 bill d. (b.d.)

OMG Pence had to sit next to a Nork!

Shame with all of that BS bravado Pence couldn’t even look her in the eye, let alone shake her hand.

Trump and Pence remind me of Farkus and his toadie from A Christmas Story

I’m trying to imagine a worse US representative in Korea than Pence. For the life of me, I can’t.

He’s the Ugly American, writ large. What a disaster for US interests in Asia.

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majii  Feb 10, 2018 • 9:37:19pm

re: #86 bill d. (b.d.)

I don’t know who does Pence’s scheduling, but he showed up at the wrong event and found there was no seat at the table for him. He was supposed to be meeting with the U.S. Olympics Team.

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mmmirele  Feb 10, 2018 • 9:38:04pm

Becca Stevens and her charango take me back to the 1980s, when an ex-boyfriend would sit and play one he picked up in Bolivia when he was doing fieldwork. Those were good times.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Feb 10, 2018 • 9:40:35pm

I spent the night restoring a wok from rusted neglect. Sanded it, put it over high heat and carefully worked it with flax oil until it had an even black patina. Next couple of day’s I’ll keep seasoning it with oil and aromatics until you can’t scratch it and turn up gunmetal gray.

…but now I’m going to be awake until the smoke clears out of my house a bit….

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austin_blue  Feb 10, 2018 • 9:42:14pm

re: #91 The Ghost of a Flea

I spent the night restoring a wok from rusted neglect. Sanded it, put it over high hear and carefully worked it with flax oil until it had an even black patina. Next couple of day’s I’ll keep seasoning it with oil and aromatics until you can’t scratch it a turn up gunmetal gray.

…but now I’m going to be awake until the smoke clears out of my house a bit….

Damned beeping smoke detectors…

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The Ghost of a Flea  Feb 10, 2018 • 9:43:14pm

re: #92 austin_blue

I’ll put the battery back in…in maybe an hour or two.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 10, 2018 • 9:43:49pm

re: #87 majii

“The pastor’s church put up a video of him saying he was innocent and would turn himself in (guess what he didn’t do).”

“The police are now looking for him.”

It pisses me off that he’s asking for “prayers” while saying he was “in the wrong place at the wrong time.” I’m glad there’s video surveillance that shows him at the m/hotel. He’s now saying he plans to turn himself in and will go to the PD with his lawyer. I’m not holding my breath waiting for him to show up.

According to the police department in the KTLA article, he has not turned himself in, and the police are looking for him.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 10, 2018 • 9:45:20pm

MsJ

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MsJ  Feb 10, 2018 • 9:46:35pm

re: #95 FormerDirtDart

MsJ

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I’ve watched every game. They best themselves in that game 1 against Norway.

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austin_blue  Feb 10, 2018 • 9:46:47pm

re: #95 FormerDirtDart

MsJ

[Embedded content]

Broom Fu.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 10, 2018 • 9:46:57pm

re: #83 Anymouse 🌹.

Disgusting.

Wouldn’t be surprised if he blames his sin on Obama like a couple other pulpit pimps who got caught doing The Wild Thing here in Los Angeles…

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The Ghost of a Flea  Feb 10, 2018 • 9:46:59pm

I also watched Goodfellas.

And after a second round, I’m straight up endorsed watercress sandwiches. Butter, Marmite, chili jam, toasted bread, so much watercress you have to mash it down and it falls out like autumn leaves. All that’s missing is tomatoes, because it ain’t the seaon. Bacon optional.

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MsJ  Feb 10, 2018 • 9:47:13pm

re: #96 MsJ

I’ve watched every game. They best themselves in that game 1 against Norway.

*Beat

I hate my iPhone sometimes.

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MsJ  Feb 10, 2018 • 9:48:34pm

re: #97 austin_blue

Broom Fu.

They are so good. She will folks in 4-person team curling in Sochi and he won gold in 4-person in 2010.

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MsJ  Feb 10, 2018 • 9:49:55pm

re: #101 MsJ

They are so good. She will folks in 4-person team curling in Sochi and he won gold in 4-person in 2010.

GODDAMNIT.

She won gold in Sochi.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 10, 2018 • 9:51:12pm

My plane has arrived. Waiting for boarding. I got one page edited.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 10, 2018 • 9:52:49pm

re: #102 MsJ

GODDAMNIT.

She won gold in Sochi.

Autocorrect will doom us as a species.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 10, 2018 • 9:54:28pm

I would bet the diagnosis was more likely a drama attack

106
Dave In Austin  Feb 10, 2018 • 9:57:31pm

Live Tweeting with Leslie…..

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 10, 2018 • 10:00:43pm

My brother-in-law says he knows (so this is anecdotal) someone who works for FEMA who is quitting her job.

According to him, they are simply denying FEMA payments in the Hurricane Harvey area because they are out of money. She can’t say FEMA is out of money though, so it’s tap-dance here and sashay there. She got tired of lying to people calling about their payments from the hurricane.

My brother-in-law took out loans to repair his home after Harvey on the expectation of a payment from FEMA. That payment hasn’t occurred yet.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 10, 2018 • 10:06:40pm

re: #94 Anymouse 🌹

According to the police department in the KTLA article, he has not turned himself in, and the police are looking for him.

The pastors statement said: “I did not do nothing wrong.”

Aside from the horrid grammar, why would a man who has done nothing wrong be hiding from the police?

///

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austin_blue  Feb 10, 2018 • 10:08:39pm

re: #107 Anymouse 🌹

My brother-in-law says he knows (so this is anecdotal) someone who works for FEMA who is quitting her job.

According to him, they are simply denying FEMA payments in the Hurricane Harvey area because they are out of money. She can’t say FEMA is out of money though, so it’s tap-dance here and sashay there. She got tired of lying to people calling about their payments from the hurricane.

My brother-in-law took out loans to repair his home after Harvey on the expectation of a payment from FEMA. That payment hasn’t occurred yet.

This is not how it should work. Nothing about this is how government should work.

This is chaos. This is complete incompetence. This is stupidity with a capital S.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 10, 2018 • 10:17:06pm

re: #109 austin_blue

This is not how it should work. Nothing about this is how government should work.

This is chaos. This is complete incompetence. This is stupidity with a capital S.

No, this is deliberate action by the RepubliKKKlans to cripple government services so people get so pissed off that they vote for more RepubliKKKlans who will dismantle the agencies and contract their work out to their corporate pimp masters.

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petesh  Feb 10, 2018 • 10:18:27pm

re: #109 austin_blue

This is not how it should work. Nothing about this is how government should work.

This is chaos. This is complete incompetence. This is stupidity with a capital S.

In 1989, after the Loma Prieta earthquake, FEMA were good, at least to me. I got a check for two grand for relocation expenses (I was a renter and the house went down) cut at 10 at night by a guy at the end of his 14-hour day, less than week afterwards. But that was when we had a competent professional spy in charge, not a lunatic scam artist. Seriously, I couldn’t stand GHW Bush but he made the trains run on time, so to speak. Nowadays the right wing adds incompetence to its objectionable tendencies.

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austin_blue  Feb 10, 2018 • 10:22:07pm

Welp, our first Medalist is a 17-year old kid from Silverthorne , Colorado who fucked up on his first two runs and then nailed the ride of his life on run #3. Yeah for Red Granger!

When he was born, I was 45. I’m an old bastard, I guess.

Night all. The investigation continues to close in on Drumpf, a money-laundering, tax cheating, economic (and perhaps actual) traitor who is about to get his just desserts.

The stock market is as stable a s a schizophrenic off his meds. It’s going to be a fun week!

Sweet scaly dreams, and best wishes to all.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 10, 2018 • 10:22:57pm

re: #100 MsJ

*Beat

I hate my iPhone sometimes.

Perhaps you just need a rotary-dial telephone like mine.

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austin_blue  Feb 10, 2018 • 10:26:09pm

re: #113 Anymouse 🌹

Perhaps you just need a rotary-dial telephone like mine.

What is this dead media of which you speak?

(Sorry just had to chime in.)

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 10, 2018 • 10:28:04pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 10, 2018 • 10:39:39pm

ccn.com

Bitcoin is still dropping (down $602 at this moment).

New Jersey’s Attorney General says the online bitcoin investment platform has been fraudulently selling unregistered securities in the state. The New Jersey Bureau of Securities, a division of AG Gurbir S. Grewal’s office, has sent a cease-and-desist letter to Bitstrade, effective immediately, alleging that the company is in violation of the State’s Uniform Securities Law for pooling investments and promising returns of 10%, accruing daily. Bitstrade takes payments in bitcoin.

The Bureau’s response comes in the wake of a meeting among federal lawmakers to discuss the crafting of a regulatory framework for cryptocurrencies. Meanwhile, AG Grewal said the Bureau is looking to “protect investors as they navigate the uncharted and largely unregulated domain of cryptocurrency-related investments.”

“Bitstrade is a prime example of a company seeking to capitalize on the cryptocurrency craze. Regulators, including the Bureau, are actively responding to fraudulent crypto-cloaked securities offerings,” said Bureau chief Christopher W. Gerold in the statement.

The state’s approach has the hallmarks of similar action taken by Texas regulators against Bitconnect, leading to a series of events that led the bitcoin investment platform to shut its doors, which doesn’t bode well for Bitstrade.

(more)

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 10, 2018 • 10:51:35pm

It’s already Feb 11th back home in PA.

Mom’s Birthday.

The last time I talked to her was on 2/11/97 at 530 PM here in LA wishing her a Happy Birthday. Mom said she didn’t feel well, she had the flu real bad.

Just before midnight, Dad called and said Mom passed away just before midnight.

They had to schedule the funeral on Valentine’s Day. Ever since, that’s a hard day to get through.

Miss you, Mom. I know you would be erupting like Mt. Vesuvius when it comes to Trump.

Posting this to remind friends, don’t hesitate to take that call from Mom!

Miss you, Mom!
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goddamnedfrank  Feb 10, 2018 • 10:56:05pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 10, 2018 • 10:58:08pm

re: #117 Joe Bacon 🌹

[[[Joe]]]

My first wife’s brother came to Florida from Honduras to visit his family. When he was getting ready to leave for Honduras, he got in a horrible fight with his father.

When he arrived in Tegucigalpa, there was a message waiting for him from the Red Cross saying his father was dead. He turned right round and booked a flight back to Florida.

My (then) wife and I arrived from Spain about the same time he arrived from Honduras. He was a wreck. For the three weeks or so that we were there and in Mississippi (there were two memorial services), he could not stop kicking himself.

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Targetpractice  Feb 10, 2018 • 10:59:20pm

re: #116 Anymouse 🌹

ccn.com

Bitcoin is still dropping (down $602 at this moment).

(more)

I want to see the death of Bitcoin, if only because then the cost of video cards will come down and it won’t cost a fortune to buy a decent gaming computer.

121
Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 10, 2018 • 11:00:58pm

re: #116 Anymouse 🌹

But I thought unregulated markets were the best thing ever…

////

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Single-handed sailor  Feb 10, 2018 • 11:03:45pm

I’m watching the drama of strategy on the curling rink, it doesn’t get better than this. Suck it, hockey.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 10, 2018 • 11:06:28pm
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goddamnedfrank  Feb 10, 2018 • 11:21:51pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 10, 2018 • 11:25:24pm

Sixteen tweets. Jeet Heer explains his earlier tweet on North Korea’s “charm offensive” in South Korea, and why South Korea is paying attention to it. (Hint: Mike Pence and Donald Trump)

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 10, 2018 • 11:25:34pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 10, 2018 • 11:29:39pm

Jeet Heer’s feed is full of conseva-derp, such as this.

My answer if I was on Twitter: I don’t know, how bout we go ask people in Puerto Rico?

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The Ghost of a Flea  Feb 10, 2018 • 11:51:15pm

Venison with Sichuan flavors—chilies and huaijiao—works. The latter is junipery, and goes well with game-y flavors. Best version of ma po tofu I’ve made yet. But I’m going to be awake a bit longer because my mouth is burning and stinging.

(Sorry, tonight I’m just 100% not on topic and trying to talk about fun stuff)

129
freetoken  Feb 10, 2018 • 11:52:19pm

re: #105 FormerDirtDart

I wonder about the idiots in the audience for this type of thing.

130
Single-handed sailor  Feb 10, 2018 • 11:53:14pm

I gotta say women’s hockey is a lot more technical, and strategic and a lot less assault and battery than men’s hockey.

131
Anymouse 🌹  Feb 11, 2018 • 12:25:46am

Going to shove off for now … g’night y’all. Chez Tumbleweed out.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 11, 2018 • 12:47:33am

re: #116 Anymouse 🌹

Bitstrade is not Bitcoin. It’s equating the Chicago Board of Trade with corn futures, except the CBoT is not a scam.

133
Single-handed sailor  Feb 11, 2018 • 12:49:01am

Now that’s pretty cool, 5 KM speed-skating race decided by .002 seconds.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 11, 2018 • 12:51:15am

re: #133 Single-handed sailor

Now that’s pretty cool, 5 KM speed-skating race decided by .002 seconds.

I saw that. I’m watching on some Vietnamese channel.

135
freetoken  Feb 11, 2018 • 12:52:10am

re: #132 wheat-dogg

Bitstrade is not Bitcoin. It’s equating the Chicago Board of Trade with corn futures, except the CBoT is not a scam.

Well, not in the thinking of our current society anyway.

136
wheat-dogg  Feb 11, 2018 • 12:53:54am

re: #135 freetoken

Well, not in the thinking of our current society anyway.

Quite so.

137
Single-handed sailor  Feb 11, 2018 • 12:54:08am

re: #134 wheat-dogg

I saw that. I’m watching on some Vietnamese channel.

I’ve got an online stream, there are several different events available at one time.

138
freetoken  Feb 11, 2018 • 12:54:14am

Pondering if our current Idiocracy is somehow evidence of a Poincaré recurrence .

Perhaps is societies are left to run long enough, they eventually start retracing previous states of existence.

139
Single-handed sailor  Feb 11, 2018 • 12:57:31am

re: #138 freetoken

I think it’s worse than that. More like in Idiocracy, we’ve interfered with natural selection to our detriment.

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freetoken  Feb 11, 2018 • 1:01:42am

re: #139 Single-handed sailor

But, evolution is not a staircase, not a ladder, to being (insert adjective here.)

It’s a random walk coupled with non-random physical constraints.

Our current brain size is less than that of our ancestors, a point brought up now and again by anthropologists. Why this is so is not clear, but it is possible that for example Neanderthals had superior processing capabilities for certain sensual information.

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Single-handed sailor  Feb 11, 2018 • 1:06:08am

re: #140 freetoken

A lot of good it did them.

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freetoken  Feb 11, 2018 • 1:08:32am

re: #141 Single-handed sailor

A lot of good it did them.

Well, they hung around in the very hostile environments of Eurasia for a very long time, so they had to have something going for them.

But yes, in the end, they all but went extinct, existing only in small parts, tiny fragments of DNA in many contemporary humans.

We all go extinct. Individually, collectively.

This is our existential problem.

And it is this existential crisis which fuels the angst which is exploited by the religious right and explains how Donald Trump became President.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 11, 2018 • 1:08:37am

re: #141 Single-handed sailor

A lot of good it did them.

It went downhill after the cat pictures on cave walls.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 11, 2018 • 1:09:11am

I am sure this is the first time I have ever watched a biathlon event.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 11, 2018 • 1:10:49am

Curling now

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freetoken  Feb 11, 2018 • 1:14:41am

Getting back to futures trading and crypto-currencies, it now seems all to easy to understand things like the tulip craze.

In the end, all money can be is a means of allowing people to interact across space-time. It allows me to trade a unit of my life (say an hour) I live today, for something else from someone else 10 years in the future.

Cryptocurrencies only exist to escape government monopolies on currency. Most real currencies exist in large part as electron states already (there is little physical currency in comparison to the values in bank accounts.) Thus the electronic nature of cryptocurrencies is not novel.

It is hardly surprising NJ did what it did today.

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freetoken  Feb 11, 2018 • 1:29:59am

Creationism news from the week that got overshadowed (as everything now does) by Trump-ego run amuck:

Ken Ham’s invitation to speak at some gathering in Oklahoma was canceled, stirring up the usual whining in the usual places.

This is America, after all.

One thing about Trump-ego, though, is that it is stealing so much attention that the traditional heat-gathering stuff is now languishing. Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

148
wheat-dogg  Feb 11, 2018 • 2:17:45am

re: #146 freetoken

Getting back to futures trading and crypto-currencies, it now seems all to easy to understand things like the tulip craze.

In the end, all money can be is a means of allowing people to interact across space-time. It allows me to trade a unit of my life (say an hour) I live today, for something else from someone else 10 years in the future.

Cryptocurrencies only exist to escape government monopolies on currency. Most real currencies exist in large part as electron states already (there is little physical currency in comparison to the values in bank accounts.) Thus the electronic nature of cryptocurrencies is not novel.

It is hardly surprising NJ did what it did today.

There’s been a slew of scams using Bitcoin as the engine to get people to hand over their money in hopes of getting rich. Texas and North Carolina have gone after some too

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freetoken  Feb 11, 2018 • 4:20:05am

Getting back to creationism:

There’s more creationist-think out there than one may at first infer just by counting religious tracts.

One thing to which I’ve become more sensitive is how the term “big bang” is used even by scientists. Often it is used in a creationist sense, even the term “creation” is thrown around.

But, and this is something that is skipped by most public-targeted science documentaries, there was no beginning, in a real sense, for an infinite universe.

And it is important to know that the past few years of experimental data have shown that we do indeed live in a flat or open, definitely not closed, universe for which there is no logical reason to expect to also be finite.

Indeed, ideas like “eternal inflation” in cosmology explicitly cover the idea that the universe is eternal and infinite.

Yet, we still hear the term “big bang” used, even by scientists, as some sort of creation of the universe.

And so no wonder the public still clings to the idea of a literal creation. Even if someone rejects the idea of the traditional patriarchal god, they still cling to the idea that somehow the universe was created at some specific time.

You may have heard, in an older attempt to explain the “big bang” (an idea, btw, that originated in part from someone in the clergy), that all the matter in the universe started out in small ball, even a point. But that is misleading. Since we don’t know how much stuff actually exists, we don’t know how big that stuff would be if squeezed as tightly as the “stuff” would allow.

I notice that the latest Wikipedia entry on the Big Bang has a section on misconceptions that try to highlight these problems, but I fear that is pretty weak sauce in counter-acting the widespread wrong thinking.

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dangerman  Feb 11, 2018 • 4:25:46am

Democrats dominating Senate fundraising battle

get this part:

Republicans think the passage of the new tax law last year can change their fortunes and are confident they’ll have enough money in the bank to contest seats

and

“I think people should be concerned, but not panicking,” said Rob Jesmer, a former NRSC executive director. “Let’s see what happens with a full quarter after tax reform.”

and

Republicans have repeatedly suggested tax reform would solve their fundraising woes.

last week they were telling everyone to save, invest, or spend their $.1.50 a week raise.
Now they’re saying/hoping it’ll be sent to them!

and the big donors - those who got the tax breaks - are capped

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dangerman  Feb 11, 2018 • 4:41:46am

re: #125 Anymouse 🌹

Sixteen tweets. Jeet Heer explains his earlier tweet on North Korea’s “charm offensive” in South Korea, and why South Korea is paying attention to it. (Hint: Mike Pence and Donald Trump)

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i just read this
and then went through the comments

what a cesspool

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dangerman  Feb 11, 2018 • 4:49:20am

re: #151 dangerman

i just read this
and then went through the comments

what a cesspool

comment threads
in twitter
after articles
on blogs (except here)

are a real sad reflection on the nature of people (at least those who participate)

my morning is bummed

im gonna make some grits

and a bacon sage bread pudding (for later)

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wheat-dogg  Feb 11, 2018 • 5:09:14am

re: #149 freetoken

You are right in saying some scientists and laypeople conflate the Big Bang with Creation, because there is still a lingering belief in a Creator Thing/God which started everything going. Probably something leftover from both Judaism and the ancient Greeks. As for the science of the BB, it is currently the most widely accepted theory explaining what we know about the universe now and in the distant past. It cannot discuss or even propose what existed before the BB, because we have no data or evidence of a pre-BB universe. Even the question of an open or closed universe is not yet answered. The last I had studied astrophysics, the consensus was the expansion of the universe was slowing down, suggesting a cyclical pattern of Big Bangs and Big Crunches. But that seems not to be the consensus now, as data suggest the universe will keep on expanding (and cooling) until all the stars run out of fuel.

Bummer.

Judging from my more recent perusals of the literature, scientists are still finding supporting evidence for the BB. The steady state universe theory is now considered invalid (Fred Hoyle, IIRC, was a big steady state proponent). But as Stephen Hawking once said, asking what happened before the BB is like asking what’s north of the north pole. Physics offers no clues as to even why it happened. So, our simian brains try to find explanations outside science. Even scientists can fall into that trap.

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dangerman  Feb 11, 2018 • 5:25:10am

re: #7 meteor

Oh snap

Peoples lives are being shattered and destroyed by a mere allegation. Some are true and some are false. Some are old and some are new. There is no recovery for someone falsely accused - life and career are gone. Is there no such thing any longer as Due Process?

restraining order, therefore due process

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 11, 2018 • 5:36:09am

Looks like there’s been a plane crash in Russia.

A Russian passenger plane has crashed after leaving Moscow’s Domodedovo airport with 71 people on board.

The Saratov Airlines An-148 jet was en route to the city of Orsk in the Ural mountains, near Russia’s border with Kazakhstan, when it went down.

All those on board are thought to have died, officials told Russian media.

The jet vanished minutes after take-off and reportedly crashed near the town of Argunovo, about 80km (50 miles) south-east of Moscow.

bbc.com

The plane involved was an Antonov An-148 from Saratov Airlines, Flight 703; not a very old airframe, either - about eight years old, according to Wikipedia. Initial reports are that it may have collided with a helicopter.

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freetoken  Feb 11, 2018 • 5:37:51am

re: #153 wheat-dogg

What I am saying is that “big bang” is a very bad misnomer.

“Big” implies a size, which is unknown and perhaps meaningless.

“Bang” implies an explosion, and that is an attempt at an analogy (to chemical explosions) but that doesn’t really convey the subtleties of what is intended in the current cosmology.

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freetoken  Feb 11, 2018 • 5:42:53am

re: #153 wheat-dogg

Also, the old steady state idea is just one possibility for an eternal infinite universe.

Current ideas are that indeed there is no steady state, but that there are an infinite number of states, so to speak.

So this is another problem with how “big bang” is used. The misnomer leads one to believe that it and a “steady state” are the only two choices, the “bang” being the opposite of “steady”.

Mostly, today, if you hear a cosmologist use the term “big bang”, it’s just a handy phrase to hang on everything that would have preceded the Cosmic Microwave Background.

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freetoken  Feb 11, 2018 • 5:46:57am

re: #153 wheat-dogg

Even the question of an open or closed universe is not yet answered.

That has been pretty much answered, if by “closed” you mean positive curvature.

Data suggests that the spatial components of space-time are either 1) Euclidean (flat), or 2) slightly negative curvature (hyperbolic.) Either of which implies a spatially infinite universe.

True, you can mathematically construct boundaries for such spaces. But to make a physical claim of such boundaries, you also have to assert that if we can’t see something then it must not exist, an ontological claim that I would not make.

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jeffreyw  Feb 11, 2018 • 6:04:19am

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Good morning!

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Targetpractice  Feb 11, 2018 • 6:35:12am

Now let’s all gush over how Mitt’s gonna save the GOP from their insanity…//////

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HappyWarrior  Feb 11, 2018 • 6:38:19am

re: #160 Targetpractice

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Now let’s all gush over how Mitt’s gonna save the GOP from their insanity…//////

Yep I’m sick of this double standard. Mitt has been far less successful than HRC has in public life but HRC needs to go away but come on back, Mr. I smirked about Benghazi and tried to claim President Obama sympathized with Ambassador Stevens’ murderers.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 11, 2018 • 6:57:13am

re: #160 Targetpractice

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Now let’s all gush over how Mitt’s gonna save the GOP from their insanity…//////

Tiger Beat on the Potomac is at it again…

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Belafon  Feb 11, 2018 • 7:11:49am

re: #130 Single-handed sailor

I gotta say women’s hockey is a lot more technical, and strategic and a lot less assault and battery than men’s hockey.

You’re killing me

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Targetpractice  Feb 11, 2018 • 7:19:01am

WH has faced days of criticism over how it’s handled news about Rob Porter. So who do they elect to put out the fire by adding more fuel? Kellywise, of course:

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2018 • 7:19:09am

re: #117 Joe Bacon 🌹

It’s already Feb 11th back home in PA.

Mom’s Birthday.

The last time I talked to her was on 2/11/97 at 530 PM here in LA wishing her a Happy Birthday. Mom said she didn’t feel well, she had the flu real bad.

Just before midnight, Dad called and said Mom passed away just before midnight.

They had to schedule the funeral on Valentine’s Day. Ever since, that’s a hard day to get through.

Miss you, Mom. I know you would be erupting like Mt. Vesuvius when it comes to Trump.

Posting this to remind friends, don’t hesitate to take that call from Mom!

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Next week is the first yortzeit (anniversary) of my Mom’s passing.

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I cannot.  Feb 11, 2018 • 7:22:55am

re: #158 freetoken

I really prefer Euclidean. Because non-Euclidean means some crazier than normal shit is happening.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 11, 2018 • 7:26:28am

Yay, it’s Sunday morning.
I have sewer gas flooding into my bathroom and spreading around the apartment. Raw sewage if flowing freely from two line cleanout ports outside.

Silly me thinking about taking a shower this morning.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2018 • 7:26:34am

Devin Nunes doing the DARVO Boogie on Fux Noise

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 11, 2018 • 7:28:05am

Very rainy in Philly.
weather.gov

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wheat-dogg  Feb 11, 2018 • 7:31:01am

re: #158 freetoken

I admit to being rusty with my cosmology, but infinite and infinitely expanding are not the same thing. An infinite universe suggests the steady state theory, while infinitely expanding suggests a Big Bang and eventual heat death.

They are still refining the Hubble Constant, but so far there are no data contradicting the expansion of the universe.

And yes, the Big Bang is a terrible name for the theory, but it’s a bit late to rename it. Might just as well tell them to rename the up, down, top, bottom, strange and charmed quarks.

The weak link in physics continues to be the lack of a quantum theory of gravity. It’s the holy grail for cosmologists because it might enable us to peer past the Planck time (10-43 s, if memory serves) and probe (mathematically) what the very very very early universe was like.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 11, 2018 • 7:34:16am

re: #166 I cannot.

I really prefer Euclidean. Because non-Euclidean means some crazier than normal shit is happening.

Euclid is so yesterday, though.

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Unshaken Defiance  Feb 11, 2018 • 7:34:27am

re: #170 wheat-dogg

I may not live long enough, ,maybe not even a teenager would, but I hope to see evidence if that singularity was a one off from our universal perspective or is a cycle (my $.02 bet)

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Targetpractice  Feb 11, 2018 • 7:34:31am

re: #168 The Vicious Babushka

Devin Nunes doing the DARVO Boogie on Fux Noise

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“So you can show that the Clinton campaign was directly giving orders to Christopher Steele?”

“Well no, but…”

“Oh, then you can show that the law firm was?”

“No, but…”

“So then you can show that the Russians that Steele spoke with were being directed on what to tell him by either the Russian gov’t or the Clinton campaign?”

“We can’t, but….”

“So if you can’t show that Steele was being directed in any way beyond what Fusion GPS told them and there’s no indication that he was being fed lies on orders from another party, then just how can you show collusion between the Russians and the Clinton campaign through him or Fusion GPS?”

“LOOK, WE JUST SAY IT HAPPENED AND THAT’S WHAT YOU’RE SUPPOSED TO BELIEVE! WE TOLD YOU IRAQ HAD WMDS AND YOU BELIEVED US, SO WHY IS THIS SO HARD?!”

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wheat-dogg  Feb 11, 2018 • 7:36:01am

re: #172 Unshaken Defiance

I may not live long enough, ,maybe not even a teenager would, but I hope to see evidence if that singularity was a one off from our universal perspective or is a cycle (my $.02 bet)

If it’s cyclical, the Hindus will have every right to say “we told you so!”

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I cannot.  Feb 11, 2018 • 7:36:50am

re: #171 wheat-dogg

Euclid is so yesterday, though.

Although, recent political developments WOULD tend to suggest non-Euclidean…I mean, it explains THAT guy’s hair.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 11, 2018 • 7:38:10am

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wheat-dogg  Feb 11, 2018 • 7:39:17am

The English version of this song was playing on my plane this afternoon.

Hello VietNam-Quynh Anh

English lyrics:
Tell me all about this name, that is difficult to say.
It was given me the day I was born.

Want to know about the stories of the empire of old.
My eyes say more of me than what you dare to say.

All I know of you is all the sights of war.
A film by Coppola, the helicopter’s roar.

One day I’ll touch your soil.
One day I’ll finally know your soul.
One day I’ll come to you.
To say hello… Vietnam.

Tell me all about my colour, my hair and my little feet
That have carried me every mile of the way.

Want to see your house, your streets. Show me all I do not know.
Wooden sampans, floatings markets, light of gold.

All I know of you is the sights of war.
A film by Coppola, the helicopter’s roar.

One day I’ll touch your soil.
One day I’ll finally know your soul.
One day I’ll come to you.
To say hello… Vietnam.

And Buddha’s made of stone watch over me.
My dreams they lead me through the fields of rice.
In prayer, in the light…I see my kin.
I touch my tree, my roots, my begin…

One day I’ll touch your soil.
One day I’ll finally know your soul.
One day I’ll come to you.
To say hello… Vietnam.

One day I’ll walk your soil
One day I’ll finally know my soul
One day I’ll come to you.
To say hello…Vietnam
To say hello…Vietnam
To say xin chao…Vietnam.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 11, 2018 • 7:41:15am
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Targetpractice  Feb 11, 2018 • 7:46:43am

A year later and the pundits are still singing the same two songs: “Hillary needs to go away!” and “Hillary needs to answer for her ‘crimes’!”

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 11, 2018 • 7:48:47am

re: #167 FormerDirtDart

Yay, it’s Sunday morning.
I have sewer gas flooding into my bathroom and spreading around the apartment. Raw sewage if flowing freely from two line cleanout ports outside.

Silly me thinking about taking a shower this morning.

Excellent response time. Maintenance guy is already here and prepping to snake the sewer lines. It’s good that one of the long term guys was on call. Bunch of new guys on staff that haven’t handled this reoccurring problem.

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ipsos  Feb 11, 2018 • 7:49:04am

The Rand Paul 5-minute rule ain’t working today.

Fucker came on Face the Nation a few minutes ago spewing his sanctimonious bullshit and I wanted to punch the screen within about 20 seconds of hearing him braying.

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Unshaken Defiance  Feb 11, 2018 • 7:49:32am

re: #180 Targetpractice

A year later and the pundits are still singing the same two songs: “Hillary needs to go away!” and “Hillary needs to answer for her ‘crimes’!”

Oh right the same pundits that also insist there is no evidence so Mueller must end his investigation. Puh leeaase. Broken hip level hypocrisy.

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plansbandc  Feb 11, 2018 • 7:51:48am

re: #58 makeitstop

The one custard I love. The perfect dessert.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 11, 2018 • 7:51:50am
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ObserverArt  Feb 11, 2018 • 7:55:00am

Morning.

Just flipped on MTP with Chuck, missed the first half, but I guess I am in time to see Erick Erickson on his discussion panel. And Peggy Noonan too.

I feel so fortunate. Uck!

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Shropshire Slasher  Feb 11, 2018 • 7:58:55am

Twenty something Colorado couple sold all their possessions and bought a 50 year old sailboat to leave the rat race behind. The first day of their voyage and hilarity ensues.

For months the couple lived at the Tarpon Springs marina while they loaded the Lagniappe with food and supplies.

“We were pretty prepared,” Walsh said.

On the first day of their adventure, Walsh and Broadwell sailed south. After about 30 miles, they ran into trouble in a channel of water called John’s Pass, near Madeira Beach.

“We thought the channel was where we were going, but it wasn’t,” Walsh lamented, saying they were armed with GPS and paper navigation charts.

nypost.com
What is it you call a boat? A hole in the water you throw money into? Or the happiest day of a boat owners life if the day you buy your boat, and the day you sell your boat.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 11, 2018 • 8:05:03am
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sagehen  Feb 11, 2018 • 8:09:25am

re: #105 FormerDirtDart

I would bet the diagnosis was more likely a drama attack

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I like the dress; it’s very Michelle.

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jaunte  Feb 11, 2018 • 8:14:37am
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Targetpractice  Feb 11, 2018 • 8:16:26am

re: #190 jaunte

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And the reality is they’ll get away with it because in a few months, nobody will ask “How did the deficit get this bad,” but instead just give in (again) to the hysteria over “runaway debts!”

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jaunte  Feb 11, 2018 • 8:21:53am

re: #191 Targetpractice

The cycles are so frequent everyone has their lines already written and memorized.

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plansbandc  Feb 11, 2018 • 8:30:00am
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ObserverArt  Feb 11, 2018 • 8:33:21am

As far as I can tell it appears the Republicans are going to hang the upcoming midterm elections totally on people getting a pay raise and a tax break.

All the other bad stuff happening is okay to ignore because someone got some money in their pocket.

Is that how it is going to be?

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jaunte  Feb 11, 2018 • 8:42:05am
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jaunte  Feb 11, 2018 • 8:44:15am

“The FBI warned us this memo could expose sources and methods, but we couldn’t care less about that.”

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2018 • 8:44:41am
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mmmirele  Feb 11, 2018 • 8:45:42am

I’ve mentioned this before, but I’m going to Louisville, KY in April to protest at “Together For The Gospel 2018,” which I have described in other places as a “three-day rock festival of Calvinista preaching.”

One of T4G’s headlining preachers is a guy named CJ Mahaney. When he was pastor of a big church in Maryland, he covered up child sexual abuse. The only “accountability” he’s had was having to resign from “The Gospel Coalition” and be sat down for T4G’s 2014 festival. He was brought back in 2016, and the guy introducing him, one Albert Mohler, a bigwig in the Southern Baptist Convention, basically said to ignore everything bad you hear about CJ on the Internet. Like this, I suppose:

washingtonian.com

And if you don’t think this is a problem in 2018, just know that Rachael Denhollander, the young woman who first dropped a dime on Olympic gymnast doctor Larry Nassar, was basically told to leave her church. Why? Because her *unrelated work* with victims of Nassar was a conflict with the church being involved with CJ Mahaney. You know, the guy who covered up child abuse at his church.

So I’m going to be bugging these guys every single day until April 10, and then I’ll be in Louisville.

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Varek Raith  Feb 11, 2018 • 8:46:41am

re: #188 FormerDirtDart

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Amused, I am.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2018 • 8:47:43am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2018 • 8:50:55am

re: #195 jaunte

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Varek Raith  Feb 11, 2018 • 8:51:26am

re: #200 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2018 • 8:52:24am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2018 • 8:56:04am

re: #41 ObserverArt

A bit of an update on the police officers shot and killed in Westerville Oh, Columbus suburb.

I think we’ve seen this before…all too often.

Cincinnati. com - 911 caller in Westerville: ‘Please help, please help’ and ‘my daughter is in there’

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jaunte  Feb 11, 2018 • 8:56:45am

re: #203 Backwoods_Sleuth

This will surprise a lot of people who believe the Stephen Miller theory that the president’s power will be unquestioned.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 11, 2018 • 9:02:02am

re: #193 plansbandc

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Had the same runaround from fucking SCREW CROSS when they denied my claims for Humira when I was diagnosed by rheumatoid arthritis.

Then we found out that SCREW CROSS actually gives incentive payments and bonuses to the examiners who deny the most claims. And those who deny the most claims got to spend a week in Acapulco…while the thousands they fucked over suffer…

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Jay C  Feb 11, 2018 • 9:03:02am

re: #200 Backwoods_Sleuth

In Montreal in 1976 an American radio sportscaster describing the entry of the nations - all of them identified in French - said “And here comes a country called Ettits Eunice. It’s certainly a very large delegation with colors not unlike our own but I confess I’m not familiar..”

I’m surprised someone didn’t correct his pronunciation: it should be more like “Zeta Zuni” - in which case he could wonder why they weren’t marching with the “Zs”….

re: #194 ObserverArt

As far as I can tell it appears the Republicans are going to hang the upcoming midterm elections totally on people getting a pay raise and a tax break.

All the other bad stuff happening is okay to ignore because someone got some money in their pocket.

Is that how it is going to be?

For now anyway, Republicans are bragging on their BFD “Tax Reform” act because its virtually the only accomplishment they’ve been able to effect in a whole year. I think the state of the economy in general by the time the November midterms roll around is going to be a more salient concern, and not the pittance most people will get from said “reform”. And, of course, whatever the scandal-of-the-month (or -week) the Trump (Mal)Administration is excreting at election time.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 11, 2018 • 9:04:47am

re: #194 ObserverArt

As far as I can tell it appears the Republicans are going to hang the upcoming midterm elections totally on people getting a pay raise and a tax break.

All the other bad stuff happening is okay to ignore because someone got some money in their pocket.

Is that how it is going to be?

My paycheck went DOWN!

Why?

My health insurance premium rose by 18%!

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Varek Raith  Feb 11, 2018 • 9:05:34am

How about dat stock market!
/

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lawhawk  Feb 11, 2018 • 9:07:08am

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area.

Trumpworld is up to its daily tricks, thanks to Fox and their stable of talking heads.

Kellyanne Conway takes the cake though, as she does the Triple Lindy with extra 720 somersault on the dismount:

She and the rest of Trumpworld attacked dozens of women who came forward about Trump’s sex predatory behaviors - behavior Trump corroborated via the Access Hollywood tape.

She slagged them endlessly, but now she’s got the fainting couch spells over Porter?

She helped get a sex predator elected to the WH.

As if that wasn’t bad enough, it looks like Trump might be setting up Mulvaney to take over for Kelly. This is the same extremist who’s already gutted the CFPB and given Equifax a pass on the worst data breach in history - putting the financial wellbeing of about half of all Americans at risk - a data breach that has turned out to be far worse than even they let on initially, or months later (as Equifax has stonewalled, ignored, and ultimately put the onus of their failures on the customers whose records were stole).

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 11, 2018 • 9:08:59am

re: #197 The Vicious Babushka

re: #197 The Vicious Babushka

Fun fact about this: Dude made the finals after sneaking in following a crash out too.

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Belafon  Feb 11, 2018 • 9:09:17am

re: #204 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I went to go find a picture of Quentin Smith. Couldn’t find one, but I did find out he was a character in the 2010 Nightmare on Elm Street movie.

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Belafon  Feb 11, 2018 • 9:10:45am

re: #203 Backwoods_Sleuth

I guess the only reason for sending it to the executive was so that the DOJ could make sure nothing it thought was classified could be leaked.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 11, 2018 • 9:10:55am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2018 • 9:11:30am

re: #212 Belafon

I went to go find a picture of Quentin Smith. Couldn’t find one, but I did find out he was a character in the 2010 Nightmare on Elm Street movie.

fun fact: a more famous resident of Westerville is Gov. John Kaisch.

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Belafon  Feb 11, 2018 • 9:11:43am

It’s sleeting here in Rockwall.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2018 • 9:12:53am

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 11, 2018 • 9:13:53am

re: #207 Jay C

Actually, there’s no Z sound in the French word for the United States. It’s pronounced A-taw You-knee.

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Varek Raith  Feb 11, 2018 • 9:13:54am

re: #217 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

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Okely dokely.

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jaunte  Feb 11, 2018 • 9:17:04am

re: #217 Backwoods_Sleuth

This could be the lamest Hollywood/San Francisco liberals slam ever.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 11, 2018 • 9:17:35am
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Skip Intro  Feb 11, 2018 • 9:19:40am

re: #220 jaunte

California’s water problems were solved the day Trump took office. During the campaign he told the dumbshits in Nunes country that he was “going to open up the water”, so what’s Nunes bitching about? Did Trump lie?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 11, 2018 • 9:19:52am

re: #217 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

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Wut?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2018 • 9:21:11am
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jaunte  Feb 11, 2018 • 9:22:09am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 11, 2018 • 9:23:43am

re: #224 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Wtf does that have to do with anything? Go home Kellyanne, you’re drunk.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 11, 2018 • 9:24:13am

re: #225 jaunte

I love the “shit just got real” look on Amys face.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2018 • 9:25:16am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 11, 2018 • 9:26:07am

re: #225 jaunte

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It really is sad when Jen Rubin has become a voice of reason. She’s absolutely right though about right wing women like Amy, CWFA, etc that blindly defend him no matter what.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 11, 2018 • 9:26:42am

re: #228 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I like her. Your move Orange Shitprune.

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Jay C  Feb 11, 2018 • 9:26:53am

re: #217 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

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Yeah, water issues have been one of Nunes’ shticks for years: I first heard of him a few years back right before the California drought broke (2016?): he was bleating in the press over some plan or other to restrict agricultural water allocation (his is a mainly agricultural district, so his concerns were real): but, IIRC, as usual with Republican hacks, he simple-minded the argument* down to “hippy-dippy tree-hugging eco-freaks putting fish over peoples’ jobs and food supply”. I guess he decided to trot out some of his old material to try to deflect from his latest fuckup on the “Intelligence” Committee….

* A far-from simple issue of how to allocate scarce water resources between water-thirsty Big Ag in the Central Valley, while keeping creeping salinity from damaging/destroying agriculture/fisheries in the southern Bay region. An issue only delayed, not resolved by lessening of the Western drought. So far.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2018 • 9:32:02am

re: #222 Skip Intro

California’s water problems were solved the day Trump took office. During the campaign he told the dumbshits in Nunes country that he was “going to open up the water”, so what’s Nunes bitching about? Did Trump lie?

Mad Max: Fury Road - Let There Be Water

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 11, 2018 • 9:32:46am

re: #231 Jay C

With enough time and resources allocated it is possible to address low water supplies while minimizing environmental impact.

Not that the GOP gives a shit about that…

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Skip Intro  Feb 11, 2018 • 9:33:16am

re: #231 Jay C

Trump’s exact words.

“If I win, we’re going to start opening up the water so you can have your farmers survive, so that your job market will get better,” the presumptive Republican nominee said. “We’re going to get it done and we’re going to get it done quick, don’t even think about it, that’s an easy one.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2018 • 9:34:11am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 11, 2018 • 9:34:14am

re: #234 Skip Intro

Does the dumb fuck think there’s some huge reservoir somewhere that Democrats are keeping under lock and key?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 11, 2018 • 9:34:46am

re: #235 Backwoods_Sleuth

Shit, Conway is aging fast.

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Jay C  Feb 11, 2018 • 9:35:31am

re: #222 Skip Intro

California’s water problems were solved the day Trump took office. During the campaign he told the dumbshits in Nunes country that he was “going to open up the water”, so what’s Nunes bitching about? Did Trump lie?

Add to my #231: Leaving aside the non-issue of whether or not “Trump lied” - of course he did - I think another factor pissing Nunes (and probably Trump, too) off is that a lot of these decisions are up to the State of California, and the Federal government can’t just order water allocated wherever some interest group or other wants (and pays Republicans to make it so).

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Skip Intro  Feb 11, 2018 • 9:36:41am

re: #235 Backwoods_Sleuth

Too bad her face lift is already failing.

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MsJ  Feb 11, 2018 • 9:36:56am

re: #237 Eclectic Cyborg

Shit, Conway is aging fast.

Not fast enough.

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jaunte  Feb 11, 2018 • 9:37:08am

re: #222 Skip Intro

California’s water problems were solved the day Trump took office

Rainmaker, rainmaker
The sky is gray just by the touch of your hand
Rainmaker, rainmaker
Make me some rain, make all my crops grow tall

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 11, 2018 • 9:38:07am

re: #241 jaunte

Philly has a lot of rain. Do you want some?

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Skip Intro  Feb 11, 2018 • 9:38:14am

re: #236 Eclectic Cyborg

Does the dumb fuck think there’s some huge reservoir somewhere that Democrats are keeping under lock and key?

It’s simple. The farmers get all the water, the cities, where the libturds live, get none.

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jaunte  Feb 11, 2018 • 9:38:40am

re: #242 PhillyPretzel

We’re good here, maybe we should pipe it to Fresno.

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 11, 2018 • 9:39:43am

re: #244 jaunte

Good idea.

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sagehen  Feb 11, 2018 • 9:40:09am

re: #221 FormerDirtDart

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She looks super-familiar — is she an actress on one of the shows I watch?

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jaunte  Feb 11, 2018 • 9:40:21am
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sagehen  Feb 11, 2018 • 9:40:58am

re: #222 Skip Intro

California’s water problems were solved the day Trump took office. During the campaign he told the dumbshits in Nunes country that he was “going to open up the water”, so what’s Nunes bitching about? Did Trump lie?

um… it did rain enough for flooding and mudslides. maybe he’s responsible for that.

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jaunte  Feb 11, 2018 • 9:43:55am

Rand Paul coming out bravely against domestic abusers or maybe its complicated…

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Unshaken Defiance  Feb 11, 2018 • 9:44:05am

Anyone looking at California water issues should watch the Nat Geo documentary Water And Power now on Netflix. Eye popping information on how California privatized the most crucial resource we have.

channel.nationalgeographic.com

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 11, 2018 • 9:44:53am

re: #244 jaunte

We’re good here, maybe we should pipe it to Fresno.

You may joke, but as the climate changes and precipitation patterns shift, at some point this will make sense. Or move tens of millions of people.

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Unshaken Defiance  Feb 11, 2018 • 9:45:04am

re: #248 sagehen

um… it did rain enough for flooding and mudslides. maybe he’s responsible for that.

Piss on us and call it rain…

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KGxvi  Feb 11, 2018 • 9:45:23am

re: #249 jaunte

They should have put the pictures on the screen and asked him if those are complicated

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jaunte  Feb 11, 2018 • 9:47:03am

re: #253 KGxvi

“If you go to family court… I’m not saying she was asking for it.”

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2018 • 9:47:36am
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Skip Intro  Feb 11, 2018 • 9:49:43am

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 11, 2018 • 9:50:04am

re: #237 Eclectic Cyborg

Shit, Conway is aging fast.

Another year and a half or so, she’s gonna look like this:

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 11, 2018 • 9:50:10am

re: #246 sagehen

She looks super-familiar — is she an actress on one of the shows I watch?

No idea who she is, but yeah, she seems familiar to me too

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sagehen  Feb 11, 2018 • 9:54:28am

re: #250 Unshaken Defiance

Anyone looking at California water issues should watch the Nat Geo documentary Water And Power now on Netflix. Eye popping information on how California privatized the most crucial resource we have.

channel.nationalgeographic.com

Or you could just watch “Chinatown”

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jaunte  Feb 11, 2018 • 9:57:32am
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Belafon  Feb 11, 2018 • 9:57:55am

re: #228 Backwoods_Sleuth

I ran into three replies in the comments:
1. “Where was Al Franken’s due process?” And while I argued for it as well, politics isn’t law. She’s not trying to convict Trump, just get people to understand their hipocricy.
2. Why doesn’t she start the hearings?” Um, Democrats aren’t in charge.
3. “She can’d do anything, so it’s an empty gesture.” It’s very important, politically, for Democrats to be making these statements.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 11, 2018 • 9:59:11am

re: #255 The Vicious Babushka

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 11, 2018 • 9:59:57am

re: #237 Eclectic Cyborg

Shit, Conway is aging fast.

Unfortunately for her, she has features that do not age well. I suspect there are probably other hairstyles she might adopt that would mitigate that.

But, you know, it’s never her looks that bother me. It’s her absolute lack of shame. This is a woman who attacked Trump with all the fervor she now uses to defend him, and in the process is so divorced from honesty and integrity that she’d be repellent even if she were the most ageless beauty in history.

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plansbandc  Feb 11, 2018 • 10:00:25am

re: #256 Skip Intro

Toles captures the orange bag o’shit’s essence perfectly.

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Belafon  Feb 11, 2018 • 10:00:35am

re: #260 jaunte

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“We report, you should decide what we told you.”

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 11, 2018 • 10:01:07am
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Belafon  Feb 11, 2018 • 10:01:08am

re: #263 Blind Frog Belly White

Unfortunately for her, she has features that do not age well. I suspect there are probably other hairstyles she might adopt that would mitigate that.

But, you know, it’s never her looks that bother me. It’s her absolute lack of shame. This is a woman who attacked Trump with all the fervor she now uses to defend him, and in the process is so divorced from honesty and integrity that she’d be repellent even if she were the most ageless beauty in history.

Conway is Trump’s painting.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 11, 2018 • 10:01:47am

re: #265 Belafon

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“We report, you should decide what we told you.”

We decide what to report, we decide what you should think about it.

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jaunte  Feb 11, 2018 • 10:02:28am

re: #265 Belafon

I see Hume is focused on correcting Swan instead of trying to reconcile the differences between the WH story and Kelly’s.

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Unshaken Defiance  Feb 11, 2018 • 10:02:43am

re: #259 sagehen

Or you could just watch “Chinatown”

True, and that reference is welcome. You might be aware of this already. But Chinatown is good until you get to the ‘90’s era “Monterey agreement”. 2 links. For it And really against… Some thing’s don’t change. We do know for a fact we are depleting the aquifer that feeds tens of millions via agriculture and slakes the thirst of cities in a desert. Keep that Trump fool away. Don’t need that finger in our water.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 11, 2018 • 10:02:50am

re: #267 Belafon

Conway is Trump’s painting.

And yet he looks like exactly what he is.

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jaunte  Feb 11, 2018 • 10:02:52am

Squirrel!

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Belafon  Feb 11, 2018 • 10:03:13am

re: #269 jaunte

I see Hume is focused on correcting Swan instead of trying to reconcile the differences between the WH story and Kelly’s.

If he were only allowed to actually shoot the messenger…

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 11, 2018 • 10:04:03am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 11, 2018 • 10:04:49am

re: #269 jaunte

I see Hume is focused on correcting Swan instead of trying to reconcile the differences between the WH story and Kelly’s.

If you can’t disprove the substance, criticize the style.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 11, 2018 • 10:05:18am

re: #237 Eclectic Cyborg

Shit, Conway is aging fast.

Only a matter of time before KKKellyanne’s grimace matches that of Mr. Sardonicus!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2018 • 10:05:21am

re: #260 jaunte

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ObserverArt  Feb 11, 2018 • 10:06:16am

re: #204 Backwoods_Sleuth

Enquirer

@Enquirer
Records: Westerville shooting suspect Quentin Smith illegally possessed gun dlvr.it

11:54 AM - Feb 11, 2018
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See Enquirer’s other Tweets

Interesting. I was wondering why the police would have just gone up to the apartment if they had been out there before for domestic disturbances. They must have thought no guns would be there. Still though, I wonder why they didn’t proceed with more caution unless he was hiding somewhere they didn’t expect, like behind them or something.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 11, 2018 • 10:06:49am

re: #266 FormerDirtDart

After cake, they played poker. You’ve probably seen the picture….

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 11, 2018 • 10:08:37am

Today’s RepubliKKKlan Party in a nutshell!

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Skip Intro  Feb 11, 2018 • 10:10:25am

re: #280 Joe Bacon 🌹

Today’s RepubliKKKlan Party in a nutshell!

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And they’re damn proud of it.

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 11, 2018 • 10:13:00am

re: #237 Eclectic Cyborg

Shit, Conway is aging fast.

Lying all the time will make you look like a meth head pretty quick.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2018 • 10:13:20am

nothing but a bag of hatefulness.

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 11, 2018 • 10:15:03am

re: #268 Blind Frog Belly White

We decide what to report, we decide what you should think about it.

We decide, you concur.

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jaunte  Feb 11, 2018 • 10:16:09am

Nunes quickly disappearing into his own self-affirming fantasy:

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Interesting Times  Feb 11, 2018 • 10:21:54am

re: #285 jaunte

Nunes quickly disappearing into his own self-affirming fantasy:

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On a side note, he is quite possibly the dumbest-looking congressman I’ve ever seen (moreso even than GOHMERT!!1!!, and that’s saying something).

It’s like there’s only one feeble, decrepit neuron engaged in occasional half-assed firing behind those dopey, vacant eyes.

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austin_blue  Feb 11, 2018 • 10:22:45am

So it’s 32º outside and we’ve got a fucking Thunderstorm moving in from the southwest.

Sheesh. Texas weather…

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HappyWarrior  Feb 11, 2018 • 10:23:16am

re: #283 Backwoods_Sleuth

nothing but a bag of hatefulness.

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She’s nothing but a hack.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 11, 2018 • 10:24:33am

LOL this thread!

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Dave In Austin  Feb 11, 2018 • 10:24:58am

re: #287 austin_blue

So it’s 32º outside and we’ve got a fucking Thunderstorm moving in from the southwest.

Sheesh. Texas weather…

Lasted appx 2 mins up here in Jonestown.

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ObserverArt  Feb 11, 2018 • 10:25:36am

re: #215 Backwoods_Sleuth

fun fact: a more famous resident of Westerville is Gov. John Kaisch.

I coulda told you that!

It is fun reading Lizard comments about something that is right in your backyard.

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jaunte  Feb 11, 2018 • 10:27:25am

re: #289 goddamnedfrank

dying.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 11, 2018 • 10:30:36am

Later, Lizards. Have a good one - up early for work tomorrow.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2018 • 10:34:00am

blah blah blah

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ObserverArt  Feb 11, 2018 • 10:35:38am

re: #226 HappyWarrior

Wtf does that have to do with anything? Go home Kellyanne, you’re drunk.

It isn’t supposed to have anything to do with anything.

This is what Kelly Ann does. She starts talking and before you know it everything is in question. She doesn’t define, she distorts. She doesn’t make things clear she makes them opaque.

What confuses me is why CNN allows her on. I thought they and others decided she couldn’t be trusted so they wouldn’t use her.

Oh wait…she makes for good TV…or something.

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Archangelus  Feb 11, 2018 • 10:35:48am

re: #292 jaunte

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dying.

This, and really the whole thread, had me laughing so hard a family member was concerned…

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Belafon  Feb 11, 2018 • 10:35:55am

re: #285 jaunte

Nunes quickly disappearing into his own self-affirming fantasy:

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People are bring up Senator Proxmire, who I understand decided to find out what limits there are to Congressional immunity.

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ObserverArt  Feb 11, 2018 • 10:41:51am

re: #236 Eclectic Cyborg

Does the dumb fuck think there’s some huge reservoir somewhere that Democrats are keeping under lock and key?

Better question: do the dumbfucks that vote for him believe there is a huge reservoir the Democrats are hiding?

The worst thing about lies is people are willing to accept them, no questions asked.

It all goes to education of areas of K through 12 student study like civics and American and world history. We are seeing the effects of a ignorant and incurious society.

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mmmirele  Feb 11, 2018 • 10:41:54am

re: #255 The Vicious Babushka

Uh, Franklin Graham doesn’t understand the Constitution. It’s not Trump’s job to defend Evangelicalism. It’s his job to be president and he’s doing horribly at that.

And Franklin Graham needs to STFU.

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Belafon  Feb 11, 2018 • 10:43:05am

What I’ve learned from last week’s episode of Victoria: Wealthy “Christians” of all ages have argued that the poor deserve what they get, in this case the Irish famine.

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Skip Intro  Feb 11, 2018 • 10:43:28am

re: #289 goddamnedfrank

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 11, 2018 • 10:45:27am

Guess I just coined a new name for Trump.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 11, 2018 • 10:46:15am

Instead of taking Rango for a walk in the park yesterday, I went up to San Francisco to visit Mrs. FBW, who has been housesitting for her Best Friend whose mother-in-law is dying. So instead of the park, here’s a SF street….

Steeper than it looks.

BF’s house is on one of those streets in San Francisco that goes straight up the side of the hill, and where all the curb cuts for driveways are exactly the length of the Challenger apart. So I parked on the cross street.

We walked down to the little commercial area near the BART station, had some Mexican food, then laboriously climbed back up the hill to the house, where we hung out and watched Planet Earth on BBC America.

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ObserverArt  Feb 11, 2018 • 10:48:00am

re: #263 Blind Frog Belly White

Unfortunately for her, she has features that do not age well. I suspect there are probably other hairstyles she might adopt that would mitigate that.

But, you know, it’s never her looks that bother me. It’s her absolute lack of shame. This is a woman who attacked Trump with all the fervor she now uses to defend him, and in the process is so divorced from honesty and integrity that she’d be repellent even if she were the most ageless beauty in history.

She is nothing but a political mercenary. She will lie and misdirect for anyone that hires her. That means she has no soul, it can be bought.

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plansbandc  Feb 11, 2018 • 10:51:32am

re: #303 Blind Frog Belly White

Love that city. Been far too long since I’ve been there.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 11, 2018 • 10:53:52am

re: #304 ObserverArt

She is nothing but a political mercenary. She will lie and misdirect for anyone that hires her. That means she has no soul, it can be bought.

She is the 21st Century version of Eva Braun.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 11, 2018 • 10:53:55am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 11, 2018 • 10:54:07am

re: #304 ObserverArt

She is nothing but a political mercenary. She will lie and misdirect for anyone that hires her. That means she has no soul, it can be bought.

There are lots of those, though. What makes her stand out is that SHE NEVER STOPS TALKING. Watch an interview and she NEVER STOPS TALKING. She rapidfires talking points and bullshit and misdirection and whataboutism so fast, and switches between them so rapidly, it’s astonishing. And it’s clear that she doesn’t believe any of it, it’s all just technique divorced from any meaning.

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sagehen  Feb 11, 2018 • 10:56:44am

re: #289 goddamnedfrank

LOL this thread!

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5200 sq feet, on two acres.

For an asking price that in NYC will get you… 400 sq ft in a 5th floor walk-up. And the floor may not be level.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 11, 2018 • 10:56:45am

re: #307 goddamnedfrank

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I can make wooden bows - badly.
I can twist bowstrings - badly.
I can fletch arrows - badly.
I can fix watches - badly.

So, I could run either a shitty archery shop, or a shitty watch shop.

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allegro  Feb 11, 2018 • 11:00:20am

re: #287 austin_blue

So it’s 32º outside and we’ve got a fucking Thunderstorm moving in from the southwest.

Sheesh. Texas weather…

Cold, windy, and rainy here too today. We’re in the what season is it today? time of year. Shorts and tank top one day, sweats and fuzzy socks the next. Gotta stick your head outa the door every morning to know how to dress for the day.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2018 • 11:02:01am

re: #307 goddamnedfrank

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I can bake bread.

And pie! I can bake pie!

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 11, 2018 • 11:02:04am

re: #311 allegro

Rainy in Philly. :(

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 11, 2018 • 11:02:38am

re: #310 Blind Frog Belly White

Watches. I love jewelry.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 11, 2018 • 11:03:33am

re: #307 goddamnedfrank

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I can do jobs then that I could not support myself with now.
1) Silver-based photography.
2) State-of-then-art automotive and motorcycle maintenance.

(Could also frame and roof a decent house—thanks, Habitat.)

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The Ghost of a Flea  Feb 11, 2018 • 11:07:52am

re: #307 goddamnedfrank

I can concoct and sell dubious patent medicines.

And make what passes for “curry” in Britain.

That’s about it.

Unless “fop” is a job, that is.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 11, 2018 • 11:08:42am

re: #310 Blind Frog Belly White

I can make wooden bows - badly.
I can twist bowstrings - badly.
I can fletch arrows - badly.
I can fix watches - badly.

So, I could run either a shitty archery shop, or a shitty watch shop.

I can make silver and platinum based photographic emulsion, prepare plates & paper, calculate proper exposure and develop images.

But I’d probably just try to find and kill Hitler.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Feb 11, 2018 • 11:10:43am

re: #317 goddamnedfrank

Nobody ever takes a shot at Stalin.

:(

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sagehen  Feb 11, 2018 • 11:12:37am

re: #307 goddamnedfrank

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I’d have been a typewriter.

Like my grandmother.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 11, 2018 • 11:14:14am

re: #319 sagehen

I’d have been a typewriter.

Like my grandmother.

It was a good time for barnstormers.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 11, 2018 • 11:18:33am

re: #317 goddamnedfrank

I can make silver and platinum based photographic emulsion, prepare plates & paper, calculate proper exposure and develop images.

But I’d probably just try to find and kill Hitler.

The ultimate contest of the ‘Great Men’ vs ‘Great Movements’ views of history - would WWII have happened anyway?

Which reminds me of a show I’ve been watching recently - Counterpart.

Counterpart is the first ‘alternate universe’ story I’ve seen/read where they use a sensible narrative device to avoid problems most alternate universe stories simply ignore, like “If WWII didn’t happen on Earth 2, how come everyone on Earth 1 also exists on Earth 2? Wouldn’t at least SOME people’s grandparents never have met? Or maybe married someone else?”

They avoid it by having the two universes only separate 30 years ago, although it’s hinted that there was only one universe that split somehow.

Of course, the fun part is that the lead is J.K Simmons, playing an assertive secret agent, AND a milquetoast low level guy who has no clue what’s going on. I’m waiting for the secret agent one to say something about what to do when life give you lemons.
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Decatur Deb  Feb 11, 2018 • 11:19:00am

Would have had a big future in surplus munitions sales to developing countries.

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sagehen  Feb 11, 2018 • 11:21:18am

re: #321 Blind Frog Belly White

The ultimate contest of the ‘Great Men’ vs ‘Great Movements’ views of history - would WWII have happened anyway?

Which reminds me of a show I’ve been watching recently - Counterpart.

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It would have happened anyway; all the conditions existed that made Nazis an inevitability. But if there was no Adolph Hitler, somebody more competent would have been fuhrer, wouldn’t have made the same strategic errors, and might have won.

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Skip Intro  Feb 11, 2018 • 11:21:19am

re: #321 Blind Frog Belly White

Keep Archduke Franz Ferdinand from being assassinated and neither WWI or WWII would have happened.

The Middle East wouldn’t be the war zone it is now either.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 11, 2018 • 11:22:24am

re: #323 sagehen

It would have happened anyway; all the conditions existed that made Nazis an inevitability. But if there was no Adolph Hitler, somebody more competent would have been fuhrer, wouldn’t have made the same strategic errors, and might have won.

We dodged a bullet, there.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 11, 2018 • 11:22:54am

re: #324 Skip Intro

Keep Archduke Franz Ferdinand from being assassinated and neither WWI or WWII would have happened.

The Middle East wouldn’t be the war zone it is now either.

Didn’t dodge a bullet, there

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2018 • 11:23:17am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 11, 2018 • 11:24:03am

re: #324 Skip Intro

Keep Archduke Franz Ferdinand from being assassinated and neither WWI or WWII would have happened.

The Middle East wouldn’t be the war zone it is now either.

My read on WWI is that it was inevitable, because everyone at the time assumed it was inevitable. The assassination was not a cause, just a trigger.

But it might have played out differently if it happened a few years earlier or later.

Or not.

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TedStriker  Feb 11, 2018 • 11:25:26am

re: #325 Decatur Deb

We dodged a bullet, there.

He didn’t though, in the end,

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2018 • 11:25:40am

moron

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Interesting Times  Feb 11, 2018 • 11:27:53am

Why we can’t have nice things, Part Eleventy -_-

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2018 • 11:28:29am
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Skip Intro  Feb 11, 2018 • 11:29:27am

re: #328 Blind Frog Belly White

I don’t think it was inevitable. Nobody wanted it, but a perfect storm of unforeseeable consequences made it unavoidable.

Strangely, another perfect storm nearly 20 years later led to Hitler taking over Germany, leading to the second half of WWI.

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jaunte  Feb 11, 2018 • 11:29:46am

re: #330 Backwoods_Sleuth

There’s a schedule?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 11, 2018 • 11:31:11am

re: #333 Skip Intro

I don’t think it was inevitable. Nobody wanted it, but a perfect storm of unforeseeable consequences made it unavoidable.

Strangely, another perfect storm nearly 20 years later led to Hitler taking over Germany, leading to the second half of WWI.

I disagree that nobody wanted it. In fact, I think EVERYBODY wanted it. Everyone thought it would be swift, decisive, and they’d win.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 11, 2018 • 11:33:08am

re: #335 Blind Frog Belly White

I disagree that nobody wanted it. In fact, I think EVERYBODY wanted it. Everyone thought it would be swift, decisive, and they’d win.

It’s been described as an accidental breakdown of a web of alliances that Bismark created, and that only he really understood.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 11, 2018 • 11:34:49am

re: #333 Skip Intro

I don’t think it was inevitable. Nobody wanted it, but a perfect storm of unforeseeable consequences made it unavoidable.

Strangely, another perfect storm nearly 20 years later led to Hitler taking over Germany, leading to the second half of WWI.

I’d also argue that WWII was caused by WWI not turning out to be swift or decisive. 4 years of dying in trenches left the victors needing to punish the losers. That made WWII inevitable, arguably.

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ObserverArt  Feb 11, 2018 • 11:38:41am

Do people really expect a Louisiana Democrat to be exactly like say a New York or California Democrat?

I’m not defending his stance on work requirements for Medicaid, etc., just the fact that if he acted like everyone wants him too, you’d have a Republican Governor. And this occurs more so now with Trump and Republican dominance.

Do we forget the Republican noise machine so easily?

It is Louisiana. Just like Jones in South Carolina.

People have to learn politics. It is never ideal. You never get all you want.

We are going to muck this year up with this thinking.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 11, 2018 • 11:42:46am

re: #338 ObserverArt

Do people really expect a Louisiana Democrat to be exactly like say a New York or California Democrat?

I’m not defending his stance on work requirements for Medicaid, etc., just the fact that if he acted like everyone wants him too, you’d have a Republican Governor. And this occurs more so now with Trump and Republican dominance.

Do we forget the Republican noise machine so easily?

It is Louisiana. Just like Jones in South Carolina.

People have to learn politics. It is never ideal. You never get all you want.

We are going to muck this year up with this thinking.

The portion of Medicaid recipients that could even be considered for employment is vanishingly small. Most are very young, very old, or seriously disabled. The ‘workaid’ solution is kabuki, and will produce little real-world use or harm.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 11, 2018 • 11:44:36am

re: #323 sagehen

It would have happened anyway; all the conditions existed that made Nazis an inevitability. But if there was no Adolph Hitler, somebody more competent would have been fuhrer, wouldn’t have made the same strategic errors, and might have won.

Mr. Hilter goes ahead and conquers Britain before turning East, and tells the army to pack warm clothes. With the Mediterranean under Axis control, Germany has all the oil it needs. And it controls the Eastern Atlantic. No Lend Lease for Uncle Joe. The USSR falls.

Japan attacks at Pearl Harbor, but Hilter doesn’t declare war on America. The US takes out Imperial Japan sooner, but now has to build a Pacific Alliance to counter the German control of the Atlantic.

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Jay C  Feb 11, 2018 • 11:46:46am

re: #335 Blind Frog Belly White
re: #333 Skip Intro

I don’t think it was inevitable. Nobody wanted it, but a perfect storm of unforeseeable consequences made it unavoidable.

Strangely, another perfect storm nearly 20 years later led to Hitler taking over Germany, leading to the second half of WWI.

I disagree that nobody wanted it. In fact, I think EVERYBODY wanted it. Everyone thought it would be swift, decisive, and they’d win.

While it’s true that all the European Powers thought the war that broke out in August of 1914 would be a fairly “quick” one, it’s also true that they generally hadn’t expected it to break out when it did: IIRC, the Russian Empire, the British (mainly on a naval basis) and the Austro-Hungarians had all planned military redevelopment programs that were expected to be complete by late 1916 or so. That the War happened when it did was something of a surprise, but only on the timing: expectations of a conflict (typically centering on some attempted breakup/breakdown of the Ottoman Empire) were not.

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lawhawk  Feb 11, 2018 • 11:49:33am

re: #318 The Ghost of a Flea

Or Mao.

Or Kim Il Sung (Jong Un’s grandfather).

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jaunte  Feb 11, 2018 • 11:59:44am
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lawhawk  Feb 11, 2018 • 12:00:15pm

So, we’ve got another mass shooting in Kentucky. 4 dead. Shooter dead too.

Shooter? White guy with a fucking arsenal of guns.

The GOP and NRA and Trump wont comment. They’re watering the tree of liberty with the blood of and endless parade of victims.

Strong gun control laws do reduce gun violence. How do we know? Because Australia and Japan and Europe have a fraction of the gun violence the US does. Because states like NY have far lower gun violence per capita rates than lax states.

But idiots spew nonsensical ravings when saying where’s the proof. As if the CDC stats, the nonstop mass shootings that happen like clockwork, and tens of thousands of needless deaths every year. Add to that the suicides (those who use guns are far more successful in their efforts than other methods).

It’s all around us.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 11, 2018 • 12:03:14pm

re: #344 lawhawk

These are *some* of the guns he owned:

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ObserverArt  Feb 11, 2018 • 12:04:35pm

re: #339 Decatur Deb

The portion of Medicaid recipients that could even be considered for employment is vanishingly small. Most are very young, very old, or seriously disabled. The ‘workaid’ solution is kabuki, and will produce little real-world use or harm.

No doubt. But that wasn’t my point…and I know you knows it!

You live in Alabama and you understand politics. You were able to understand how big it was to get Jones in the Senate. If people don’t understand what Jones needs to do to be able to hold that seat and want him to be 100% left pure and hold him to it, he will be out as fast as he was in.

I’ll take some Joneses and Manchins if we can get a Democratic Senate majority. It will take even more acceptance for regional/local politics to get house seats to hopefully get a House majority.

Once we get a majority we can arm twist ‘em. Not before.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2018 • 12:05:44pm

Here is my 1918 skill:

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jaunte  Feb 11, 2018 • 12:05:49pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 11, 2018 • 12:06:31pm

This tweet is typical of the responses I’m seeing to articles about NK’s ‘charm offensive’ - “Stop saying nice things about her! They’re terrible!!”

Here’s the thing, though - the only reason that NK is able to gain traction in SK at this point is because we’re failing the diplomacy game.

This Twitter thread explains it pretty well, and the comments really expose people’s unwillingness to look at it from South Korea’s POV.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Feb 11, 2018 • 12:08:37pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Feb 11, 2018 • 12:09:40pm

re: #344 lawhawk

re: #345 Eclectic Cyborg

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Skip Intro  Feb 11, 2018 • 12:10:55pm

re: #345 Eclectic Cyborg

These are *some* of the guns he owned:

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The NRA would call that a “starter set”.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 11, 2018 • 12:11:59pm

re: #350 I Would Prefer Not To

And right there, you see one of the big Partner Abuse myths - that only wimpy, needy, useless people can be abused. Imagine how many strong and capable people put up with abuse because admitting they’re being abused would mean they’re weak.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Feb 11, 2018 • 12:14:10pm

re: #350 I Would Prefer Not To

Every conservative version of “we value women” comes with an asterisk leading to a long footnote about all the kinds of women that aren’t valued and aren’t worth supporting, and all the individual deeds and words that set “valued” women outside of accepted norms such that they have to be contrite and compliant or lose their support.

Every day of this administration is like taking a bath in the ugly shit I was raised with.

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meteor  Feb 11, 2018 • 12:20:44pm

Great hashtag today: #WomenInScience. Here’s one of the tweets.

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allegro  Feb 11, 2018 • 12:21:16pm

re: #353 Blind Frog Belly White

And right there, you see one of the big Partner Abuse myths - that only wimpy, needy, useless people can be abused. Imagine how many strong and capable people put up with abuse because admitting they’re being abused would mean they’re weak.

It doesn’t matter either way. Talk and escape or stay, there will always be those who excuse the abuser (when he’s male especially white) and lay the blame on the abused. The same story all the way for women. Strong and capable she’s a ball-busting bitch, contrite and cooperative, she’s weak and undeserving of respect. Pretty, she’s a slut; plain, she’s an affront.

Get’s tiring.

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William Lewis  Feb 11, 2018 • 12:23:54pm

re: #307 goddamnedfrank

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I’d get a job whispering vacuum tube ideas into Lee De Forests ear.

Or photography. There was this German camera maker, named Oscar Barnack who could have used some help getting his prototypes finished so that Ernst Leitz II could produce them. Getting the rangefinder on it earlier would be a good thing for newspaper guys. Giving Leica the idea for lens coating that CZ Jenna wouldn’t come out with till almost WWII would be interesting too.

Or going to work at Boeing just as they started to see if the P-12 or 247 might be built a generation sooner. The engines would still be a problem and I doubt Pratt & Whitney or Curtis Wright would be as easy to influence.

Or getting a job as a lab assistant and putting out some moldy samples to catch the spores of Penicillium fungi as even 10 years sooner would be a great thing.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 11, 2018 • 12:23:56pm
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FormerDirtDart  Feb 11, 2018 • 12:24:31pm
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William Lewis  Feb 11, 2018 • 12:25:28pm

re: #318 The Ghost of a Flea

Nobody ever takes a shot at Stalin.

:(

Then Trotsky takes power and instead of Stalin turning inward and killing only his own, we end up with a competent military commander who wants to export revolution and is just as murderous about it as Stalin was.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 11, 2018 • 12:26:10pm

re: #346 ObserverArt

No doubt. But that wasn’t my point…and I know you knows it!

You live in Alabama and you understand politics. You were able to understand how big it was to get Jones in the Senate. If people don’t understand what Jones needs to do to be able to hold that seat and want him to be 100% left pure and hold him to it, he will be out as fast as he was in.

I’ll take some Joneses and Manchins if we can get a Democratic Senate majority. It will take even more acceptance for regional/local politics to get house seats to hopefully get a House majority.

Once we get a majority we can arm twist ‘em. Not before.

What is so frustrating is some of the “left” people I know think that we are finally ready for a true “left” party to rise up. They live in the fantasy that such a party would garner the votes to defeat both Republicans and Democrats.

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jaunte  Feb 11, 2018 • 12:26:19pm

re: #347 The Vicious Babushka

My 1918 skill would be otherwise-useless-eater-of-sourdough-baguettes.
Or sign painter.

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jaunte  Feb 11, 2018 • 12:27:03pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 11, 2018 • 12:28:35pm

re: #344 lawhawk

So, we’ve got another mass shooting in Kentucky. 4 dead. Shooter dead too.

Shooter? White guy with a fucking arsenal of guns.

The GOP and NRA and Trump wont comment. They’re watering the tree of liberty with the blood of and endless parade of victims.

Strong gun control laws do reduce gun violence. How do we know? Because Australia and Japan and Europe have a fraction of the gun violence the US does. Because states like NY have far lower gun violence per capita rates than lax states.

But idiots spew nonsensical ravings when saying where’s the proof. As if the CDC stats, the nonstop mass shootings that happen like clockwork, and tens of thousands of needless deaths every year. Add to that the suicides (those who use guns are far more successful in their efforts than other methods).

It’s all around us.

I thought maybe, just maybe the consensus would change when Republican congressmen were shot at.

Instead it only made them call for legalizing silencers and requiring all states to honor the loosest gun laws.

I’ve sadly come to the conclusion that mass shootings will continue unchecked until the guns are turned on the rich.

When the guns are finally turned on the rich and a significant number of them are killed or wounded then the Congress will not just pass gun control laws, they will pass gun confiscation laws after the rich put enough bribes in their pockets.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 11, 2018 • 12:30:34pm

re: #360 William Lewis

Then Trotsky takes power and instead of Stalin turning inward and killing only his own, we end up with a competent military commander who wants to export revolution and is just as murderous about it as Stalin was.

Murderous yes but not like Stalin. Trotsky was not a psychopath. He might have produced a functioning nation that provided a decent standard of living for its inhabitants.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 11, 2018 • 12:31:11pm

Leslie is not feeling the Curling

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 11, 2018 • 12:31:26pm

re: #361 Hecuba’s daughter

What is so frustrating is some of the “left” people I know think that we are finally ready for a true “left” party to rise up. They live in the fantasy that such a party would garner the votes to defeat both Republicans and Democrats.

If Grandpa and Grandma Bacon were still alive they would be reminding the Berniebots and Jill Shills just how successful the Socialist Party was in electing Senators, Congressmen and President. They’d remind the kids how Eugene Debs and Norman Thomas both stated that their goal in Presidential elections was to get a million votes. Now they came close three times (1912, 1920 & 1932) but they fell short all three times.

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jaunte  Feb 11, 2018 • 12:31:45pm

Jazz-mad youth.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2018 • 12:35:27pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 11, 2018 • 12:37:30pm

re: #364 Joe Bacon 🌹

I thought maybe, just maybe the consensus would change when Republican congressmen were shot at.

Instead it only made them call for legalizing silencers and requiring all states to honor the loosest gun laws.

I’ve sadly come to the conclusion that mass shootings will continue unchecked until the guns are turned on the rich.

When the guns are finally turned on the rich and a significant number of them are killed or wounded then the Congress will not just pass gun control laws, they will pass gun confiscation laws after the rich put enough bribes in their pockets.

Nothing will change their minds until there is a SCOTUS that changes the rules. And the Federalist Society hacks appointed to the court never will, unless perhaps they lose their own family members to a Stephen Paddock or Adam Lanza.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Feb 11, 2018 • 12:38:08pm

Fuck you Newt.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 11, 2018 • 12:38:15pm

I read yesterday that Remington is going bankrupt. They’re trying to put together financing for a ‘debtor in possession’ bankruptcy, because sales dropped 27% from last year, because the idiots who bought guns before Obama could confiscate them now aren’t worried about that.

It seems so me that the Firearms Industry overcooked this particular cake. They pushed so hard on the whole “Obama’s coming for your guns!” line that they accidentally derailed their gravy train.

This explains those desperate videos with Dana ‘MuhGunz’ Loesch - they have to try and convince their marks that SOMEBODY will still come for their guns.

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Jay C  Feb 11, 2018 • 12:38:57pm

re: #349 Blind Frog Belly White

This tweet is typical of the responses I’m seeing to articles about NK’s ‘charm offensive’ - “Stop saying nice things about her! They’re terrible!!”

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I think Jeet’s characterization of some of the reactions to his NK/SK thread as “willfully obtuse” is being a little too kind, IMO. The level of self-deluding misinterpretation, not only of what he said, but of Korean affairs in general, is pretty sick. Even assuming that all of Jeet’s responders are real people (a stretch, but never mind), the automatic vilification of anyone even remotely criticizing Trump, or anyone in his Admin, the personal insults, the mindless blame-shifting, etc. are a fairly sad commentary on the state of this country.

And yeah, he’s spot-on (IMO) in the core of his analysis: the Trump Administration is taking a belligerent line vs. NK mainly for domestic political purposes: the priorities and considerations of the South Koreans (like not wanting to have a bloody, possibly nuclear war erupt in their country) are basically being ignored.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 11, 2018 • 12:39:32pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 11, 2018 • 12:41:03pm

re: #371 I Would Prefer Not To

Fuck you Newt.

I consider him to be more responsible than any other person for the state of America today. He’s the one who pushed for the Scorched Earth approach, who validated the idea that compromise = treason. When he’s gone, the world will be a significantly better place.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Feb 11, 2018 • 12:43:27pm

a breitbart tells us about the future he envisions:

and now we can move on to the real facts about the upcoming elections — it will be easy to primary all rinos and replace all democraps because the democraps have no money — no ideas except illegals before americans and no candidates that look healthy or sane — tick toc tick toc — elections right around the corner and the majority of the voting public is swinging towards nationalistic thinking

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2018 • 12:44:11pm

another kiss of death endorsement:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2018 • 12:44:30pm

more than a day late:

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 11, 2018 • 12:45:56pm

re: #369 The Vicious Babushka

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 11, 2018 • 12:46:30pm

re: #373 Jay C

I think Jeet’s characterization of some of the reactions to his NK/SK thread as “willfully obtuse” is being a little too kind, IMO. The level of self-deluding misinterpretation, not only of what he said, but of Korean affairs in general, is pretty sick. Even assuming that all of Jeet’s responders are real people (a stretch, but never mind), the automatic vilification of anyone even remotely criticizing Trump, or anyone in his Admin, the personal insults, the mindless blame-shifting, etc. are a fairly sad commentary on the state of this country.

And yeah, he’s spot-on (IMO) in the core of his analysis: the Trump Administration is taking a belligerent line vs. NK mainly for domestic political purposes: the priorities and considerations of the South Koreans (like not wanting to have a bloody, possibly nuclear war erupt in their country) are basically being ignored.

They crazy thing is how many people will interpret what hes saying as speaking positively about North Korea, when what he’s really saying is that Trump’s dick-waving belligerence toward NK, combined with his apparent indifference to SK makes SK feel like we’re an unreliable ally. Imagine sitting in Seoul, knowing all that artillery is pointed at you, and reading that the US is considering an attack on NK to ‘bloody their nose’.

It puts me in mind of a Heinlein quote: “Never frighten a small man. He’ll kill you.”

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jaunte  Feb 11, 2018 • 12:48:12pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 11, 2018 • 12:48:17pm

re: #377 Backwoods_Sleuth

another kiss of death endorsement:

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Reminding everyone just how much of a racist Lou Barletta is…

CNN’s KFile, which delves into candidates’ past, uncovered an interview that Rep. Lou Barletta gave in 2006 when he was mayor of the town of Hazleton with the American Free Press, a publication that peddles Holocaust denial and anti-Semitic conspiracy theories.

forward.com

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 11, 2018 • 12:51:55pm

re: #370 Hecuba’s daughter

Nothing will change their minds until there is a SCOTUS that changes the rules. And the Federalist Society hacks appointed to the court never will, unless perhaps they lose their own family members to a Stephen Paddock or Adam Lanza.

Even then it would never change the votes of the five Federalist Rubber Stamps on the bench.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Feb 11, 2018 • 12:55:51pm

Frank Reich Agrees To Become Next Colt’s Coach

denies ties to ninth century carolingian empire

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jaunte  Feb 11, 2018 • 12:58:29pm

re: #384 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

“Arms Colts secondary with small throwing axes.”

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Jay C  Feb 11, 2018 • 12:59:21pm

re: #380 Blind Frog Belly White

They crazy thing is how many people will interpret what hes saying as speaking positively about North Korea, when what he’s really saying is that Trump’s dick-waving belligerence toward NK, combined with his apparent indifference to SK makes SK feel like we’re an unreliable ally. Imagine sitting in Seoul, knowing all that artillery is pointed at you, and reading that the US is considering an attack on NK to ‘bloody their nose’.

It puts me in mind of a Heinlein quote: “Never frighten a small man. He’ll kill you.”

Actually, I think the biggest flaw (among several: it’s hard to choose) in the Trump Administration’s Korea policy isn’t so much this Admin’s “indifference” to South Korean interests, but the casual assumption that they are somehow obliged to uncritically go along with whatever policy the US cooks up: however dangerous or belligerent, because “they owe us”. I don’t claim to be any sort of Korean expert, but I do know that, like most Asian countries, a prickly ethnocentric pride is their core “national value”: being taken for granted as a compliant puppet is NOT a mindset we should be even mentioning. So it’s probably a sure bet that that’s the tack Trump will be taking….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2018 • 1:02:27pm

re: #382 Joe Bacon 🌹

Reminding everyone just how much of a racist Lou Barletta is…

CNN’s KFile, which delves into candidates’ past, uncovered an interview that Rep. Lou Barletta gave in 2006 when he was mayor of the town of Hazleton with the American Free Press, a publication that peddles Holocaust denial and anti-Semitic conspiracy theories.

forward.com

the yam does not care…those actually may be positive traits as far as he’s concerned.

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jaunte  Feb 11, 2018 • 1:04:53pm
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Barefoot Grin  Feb 11, 2018 • 1:11:34pm

Did they have snark in 1918?

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The Ghost of a Flea  Feb 11, 2018 • 1:15:13pm

re: #386 Jay C

I’d say the numerous statements that lick the ear of “South Koreans are acceptable losses to keep the USA feeling safe” is also a problem.

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cat-tikvah  Feb 11, 2018 • 1:15:22pm

re: #377 Backwoods_Sleuth

From your lips to God’s ear…
I remember first hearing about racist xenophobe Barletta back when he was mayor of Hazleton PA.
Re-electing Bob Casey is imperative.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Feb 11, 2018 • 1:15:44pm

re: #389 Barefoot Grin

post-Oscar Wilde era

Youtube Video

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lawhawk  Feb 11, 2018 • 1:30:25pm

Suspended because his rank bigotry and anti-Semitism finally rose to the attention of twitter.

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lawhawk  Feb 11, 2018 • 1:32:16pm
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Barefoot Grin  Feb 11, 2018 • 1:33:02pm

re: #392 The Ghost of a Flea

post-Oscar Wilde era

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Video

A classic! That’s what I would do—give ‘em a bit of the old wit.

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sagehen  Feb 11, 2018 • 1:33:54pm

re: #392 The Ghost of a Flea

post-Oscar Wilde era

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newnownext.com
Oscar Wilde slept with Walt Whitman

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The Ghost of a Flea  Feb 11, 2018 • 1:37:22pm

re: #396 sagehen

In an era before Richard Pryor and Marlon Brando, I might be scandalized.

Nowadays…meh.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 11, 2018 • 1:39:58pm

Bloodcurdling birthday wishes to the deceased yet undead Bobby ‘Boris’ Pickett, born 78 spine-chilling years ago. R.I.P. cool ghoul.

Bobby Boris Pickett - Skully Gully

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2018 • 1:44:18pm
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Barefoot Grin  Feb 11, 2018 • 1:48:00pm

re: #399 Backwoods_Sleuth

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We’re talking about IQ45 here.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 11, 2018 • 1:48:31pm

re: #394 lawhawk

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Will Twitter kick him off once and for all or will Nehlen get back on like Ginger Snapped did?

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Citizen K  Feb 11, 2018 • 1:50:25pm

But remember, it’s Hillary’s fault people keep talking about her and this is proof she needs to go away so people will stop talking about her.

THey’re literally trying to criminalize her existence and delegitimize everything connected to her name, right down to the entire Democratic party. And it seems to be fucking working.

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stpaulbear  Feb 11, 2018 • 1:50:41pm

re: #307 goddamnedfrank

Eric Alper

@ThatEricAlper
You wake up in 1918. What job are you qualified to do?

Architectural Draftsman. That’s still my work title (except they call it a ‘technician’ now). I learned on the boards, spent the first 10 years of my career drafting by hand, and I still have a drafting table and all of my drafting tools at home. I still love working out the details on buildings, but after I retire I never want to work with AutoCAD or Revit (Jebus, I fucking HATE Revit) again. More than half the buildings I work on now are CCC and WPA era park buildings. The original drawings for those buildings are absolutely gorgeous.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 11, 2018 • 1:51:47pm

re: #399 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I can just see it now…The Howard Johnson’s International Space Station…with a McDonald’s Pod, IHOP dock, Gold’s Gym Rec Center, Con Agra Cafeteria and every room has HBO exclusively…and no porn thanks to Franky Graham Cracker!

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 11, 2018 • 1:52:54pm

re: #375 Blind Frog Belly White

I consider him to be more responsible than any other person for the state of America today. He’s the one who pushed for the Scorched Earth approach, who validated the idea that compromise = treason. When he’s gone, the world will be a significantly better place.

Unfortunately Gingrich is like a plague. His evil infected millions of Americans and others will continue his work after he has gone. Just like the passing of Breitbart did not improve the world, because Bannon took over to continue to poison American minds

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 11, 2018 • 1:54:17pm

OT I asked a few questions and got some answers regarding the Instant Pot. Now they are back ordered and available for $81. While that is a good price I am still having some qualms about ordering it.

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Belafon  Feb 11, 2018 • 1:54:19pm

re: #404 Joe Bacon 🌹

I can just see it now…The Howard Johnson’s International Space Station…with a McDonald’s Pod, IHOP dock, Gold’s Gym Rec Center, Con Agra Cafeteria and every room has HBO exclusively…and no porn thanks to Franky Graham Cracker!

It’ll be owned by Tessier-Ashpool.

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Belafon  Feb 11, 2018 • 1:55:53pm

re: #405 Hecuba’s daughter

Unfortunately Gingrich is like a plague. His evil infected millions of Americans and others will continue his work after he has gone. Just like the passing of Breitbart did not improve the world, because Bannon took over to continue to poison American minds

It won’t be corrected until Republicans cannot keep losing elections.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 11, 2018 • 1:55:57pm

re: #404 Joe Bacon 🌹

I can just see it now…The Howard Johnson’s International Space Station…with a McDonald’s Pod, IHOP dock, Gold’s Gym Rec Center, Con Agra Cafeteria and every room has HBO exclusively…and no porn thanks to Franky Graham Cracker!

That won’t happen. The Chinese will take over and the United States will be consigned to the dustbin of history.

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Belafon  Feb 11, 2018 • 1:56:41pm

re: #406 PhillyPretzel

OT I asked a few questions and got some answers regarding the Instant Pot. Now they are back ordered and available for $81. While that is a good price I am still having some qualms about ordering it.

It’s so popular you don’t think it’s a good idea?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 11, 2018 • 1:57:46pm

Evening Lizardim. I had a fantastic weekend of doing Pokemon Go raids in the 10 degrees F (-12 degrees C) cold. I am in an unusually good mood tonight, which means that this week is probably going to be a train wreck. How go things among the lizardfolk on this bitterly cold winter day?

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 11, 2018 • 1:58:07pm

re: #410 Belafon

No. My question is Will I use it enough to justify me buying it?

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plansbandc  Feb 11, 2018 • 2:05:22pm

So the new Queer Eye on netflix is charming and sweet. I love it!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 11, 2018 • 2:06:20pm

re: #409 Hecuba’s daughter

That won’t happen. The Chinese will take over and the United States will be consigned to the dustbin of history.

The way things are going the Chinese will have bought up all of those companies and they will wind up carving a large “sphere of influence” in the United States just as Mc Kinley and Hay carved up “spheres of influence” in China between the US, UK, France and Portugal in the 1890s with their “Open Door Policy”!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2018 • 2:10:17pm
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ObserverArt  Feb 11, 2018 • 2:11:02pm

Columbus/Westerville police have released an image of the Westerville police killer Quentin Smith.

Prepare for the fallout. And we may know why Trump tweeted about this.

10TV - Man accused of killing Westerville police officers in custody

PUBLISHED: 02/10/18 10:04 PM ESTUPDATED: ABOUT AN HOUR AGO
WESTERVILLE — City of Westerville officials have identified the man suspected of shooting and killing two Westerville officers Saturday morning.

Quentin L. Smith, who was named in several other incident reports at the location of today’s incident from this year and 2017, was confirmed to 10TV as the suspect in today’s shooting.

Police were called to the scene on January 20 and 21 of this year, once for a domestic situation from the mother of another person in the home.

On Nov. 29 of 2017, a woman went to Westerville police to inquire about protection orders. Within “a half hour or so” of leaving the police station, police were called to the apartment the two shared for a dispute. Police were also called to the residence on Sep. 14, 2017.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 11, 2018 • 2:16:05pm

re: #389 Barefoot Grin

Did they have snark in 1918?

en.wikipedia.org

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 11, 2018 • 2:17:29pm

Having shortchanged Rango yesterday with no walk, I decided that despite the unpromising skies and blustery conditions, we’d go for one today, while the Younger Boy did yardwork.

The only pic I took was this one…

Ma-ma-ma-man-zanita!

Last week’s walk in the park was more interesting, but the most interesting part turned out to be pretty much impossible to photograph. You can’t tell from the picture, but there are dozens of little butterflies all flitting around. All nicely backlit, so in person you can see them. But in a still shot, you’re lucky to see any!

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Belafon  Feb 11, 2018 • 2:28:15pm

re: #415 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So, 2018 America will be the cosplay version of WW2 Europe.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Feb 11, 2018 • 2:29:44pm

re: #389 Barefoot Grin

Did they have snark in 1918?

“if you don’t have anything nice to say about somebody, sit down here right next to me!”

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 11, 2018 • 2:32:51pm
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Interesting Times  Feb 11, 2018 • 2:32:57pm

Good point:

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dangerman  Feb 11, 2018 • 2:39:04pm

Pennsylvania to require voting machines with paper backup

is a start

Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Wolf on Friday ordered counties that plan to replace their electronic voting systems to buy machines that leave a paper trail — a safeguard against hacking

but his budget doesn’t include any money to fund the replacement of the state’s aging, increasingly vulnerable fleet

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 11, 2018 • 2:43:50pm

re: #423 dangerman

The current machines in Philadelphia have paper rolls that are removed at the end of the evening. These rolls have the tally of the days voting. They also have a removable cartridge that is inserted into the main computer at the warehouse. As to what kind of paper backup he is looking for I have no idea. Maybe we should use the Canadian system which is a small piece of paper and a pencil.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 11, 2018 • 2:46:41pm

re: #423 dangerman

Pennsylvania to require voting machines with paper backup

is a start

is a start

The Republican legislature is still pissed off at Wolf and the State Supreme Court killing their gerrymander. Of course those crooks won’t fund Wolf’s initiative!

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The Ghost of a Flea  Feb 11, 2018 • 2:47:51pm

re: #421 goddamnedfrank

It’s not just going to be written by a white dude, it’s going to be written by one of those ur-white scrawny dudes with a face that says they’re either into fixy bicycles or Mein Kampf.

I’m going to go hone knives. Angrily. (but not the Wusthofs)

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 11, 2018 • 2:48:00pm

Here is the article and a photo of the type of machine that is used in Philly.
whyy.org

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dangerman  Feb 11, 2018 • 2:50:41pm

re: #424 PhillyPretzel

The current machines in Philadelphia have paper rolls that are removed at the end of the evening. These rolls have the tally of the days voting. They also have a removable cartridge that is inserted into the main computer at the warehouse. As to what kind of paper backup he is looking for I have no idea. Maybe we should use the Canadian system which is a small piece of paper and a pencil.

im guessing that other parts of the state have older machines with no paper trail

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ObserverArt  Feb 11, 2018 • 2:53:51pm

re: #424 PhillyPretzel

The current machines in Philadelphia have paper rolls that are removed at the end of the evening. These rolls have the tally of the days voting. They also have a removable cartridge that is inserted into the main computer at the warehouse. As to what kind of paper backup he is looking for I have no idea. Maybe we should use the Canadian system which is a small piece of paper and a pencil.

Same sort of machine used here in Columbus. Not sure about state (Ohio)wide though.

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 11, 2018 • 2:55:45pm

re: #428 dangerman

Here is a picture of what an old voting machine looked like in Philadelphia. This was what the Shoup looked like: google.com

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Aussie Apocalypse  Feb 11, 2018 • 3:00:34pm

re: #345 Eclectic Cyborg

A better class of Gun-nut it seems. Someone who knows better might help out, but in the pic there seems to be a FN2000 and a Kel-Tec shotgun. The image is too grainy to tell the second from right rifle, it does seem to have a helical mag.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Feb 11, 2018 • 3:00:57pm

Actually…there’s a few knife people on here and I have a question.

I found a Japanese carbon steel, single-bevel knife among the family’s accumulated crap. Not the best, but pretty good. Thing is, I’m not sure how to sharpen it. I looked at stones and oil the other day in a physical store but the staff had never encountered the concept of single-bevel and were…unhelpful.

What should I be looking for?

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Aussie Apocalypse  Feb 11, 2018 • 3:19:06pm

re: #389 Barefoot Grin

Yes, it was hunted as early as 1876.

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fern01  Feb 11, 2018 • 3:37:08pm

re: #21 Anymouse 🌹

Trump names an ambassdor for Australia - Adm. Harry B. Harris.

He is a former commander of Gitmo, and once said that suicide by prisoners held there was a form of asymmetrical warfare.

Wonderful guy to represent us.

wonkette.com

As if we haven’t got enough of our own crazies - sigh.


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