Video: A Gorgeous Live Performance by the Late Jóhann Jóhannsson

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In memory of Jóhann Jóhannsson, who died last week, here’s a moving and evocative live performance with the American Contemporary Music Ensemble from last June, in the KEXP Seattle studio.

kexp.org presents Jóhann Jóhannsson with the American Contemporary Music Ensemble performing live in the KEXP studio. Recorded April 20, 2017.

Songs:
A Song for Europa
De Luce Et Umbra
A Sparrow Alighted Upon Our Shoulder
The Drowned World

Host: Kevin Cole
Audio Engineers: Terence Goodchild & Kevin Suggs
Cameras: Jim Beckmann, Alaia D’Alessandro & Justin Wilmore
Editor: Jim Beckmann

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johannjohannsson.com

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1
Unshaken Defiance  Feb 12, 2018 • 8:14:15pm

Sweet and somber at the same time.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 12, 2018 • 8:21:25pm

The good ones always go too soon it seems.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 12, 2018 • 8:28:12pm

Advert at the top of the page when I came in: “Take this Quiz-What Kind of Gun Are You”

Pass.

The mayor/chairwoman was not at the village board meeting tonight. I got to be mayor. I’m moving up in the world.

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Ace-o-aces  Feb 12, 2018 • 8:28:21pm

Congratulations. “Malcom X is Obama’s real father” is no longer to stupidest paternity based conspiracy theory.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 12, 2018 • 8:30:48pm

re: #4 Ace-o-aces

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Even if true, it means…. I know actual Marxists. They hate Trudeau. But yeah this is just desperation.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 12, 2018 • 8:33:02pm

I’m old enough to remember when Pam Geller claimed Malcolm X was Obama’s biological father while at the same time pushing birther bs.

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Ace-o-aces  Feb 12, 2018 • 8:41:05pm

re: #6 HappyWarrior

I’m old enough to remember when Pam Geller claimed Malcolm X was Obama’s biological father while at the same time pushing birther bs.

And then she claimed she really didn’t believe that, and was just posting someone else’s theory on her blog without attribution…because…reasons…

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HappyWarrior  Feb 12, 2018 • 8:43:00pm

re: #7 Ace-o-aces

And then she claimed she really didn’t believe that, and was just posting someone else’s theory on her blog without attribution…because…reasons…

The funny thing about the Malcolm/ Frank Marshall Davis CT was it that it would make birtherism moot. Then again I remember Pam trying to claim children of unwed parents don’t count as eligible.

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Ace-o-aces  Feb 12, 2018 • 8:48:41pm

re: #8 HappyWarrior

The funny thing about the Malcolm/ Frank Marshall Davis CT was it that it would make birtherism moot. Then again I remember Pam trying to claim children of unwed parents don’t count as eligible.

The Frank Marshall Davis “theory” is the only one that actually made logical sense. (He knew Obama’s family. It would have been scandalous for his mother to have a child by a much older man so they passed it off as her African classmate’s).
But, as you say, that would not have affected Obama’s eligibility one bit.
Also, for fuck’s sake, he looks noting like Davis!

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HappyWarrior  Feb 12, 2018 • 8:54:18pm

re: #9 Ace-o-aces

The Frank Marshall Davis “theory” is the only one that actually made logical sense. (He knew Obama’s family. It would have been scandalous for his mother to have a child by a much older man so they passed it off as her African classmate’s).
But, as you say, that would not have affected Obama’s eligibility one bit.
Also, for fuck’s sake, he looks noting like Davis!

And then there was the wacky theory that Davis seduced young Obama. But at least with Davis, they actually knew each other. I don’t even know if Malcolm X visited Hawaii. It was all disgusting though, attacking Obama’s deceased mother who from all accounts was an incredible woman & mother who died too young.

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Ace-o-aces  Feb 12, 2018 • 9:06:59pm

re: #10 HappyWarrior

And then there was the wacky theory that Davis seduced young Obama. But at least with Davis, they actually knew each other. I don’t even know if Malcolm X visited Hawaii. It was all disgusting though, attacking Obama’s deceased mother who from all accounts was an incredible woman & mother who died too young.

I believe (and I am not going back to read that long, rambling, insane post. So we’ll just have to rely on my memory) that the idea was they hooked up when she was studying in Washington State.
The same idea, by the way, was used to claim Obama was really Jimi Hendrix’s kid. We know that isn’t true, because if it was…Obama would have told everyone.

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whitebeach  Feb 12, 2018 • 9:07:28pm

re: #3 Anymouse 🌹

Advert at the top of the page when I came in: “Take this Quiz-What Kind of Gun Are You”

Pass.

Aw come on, mouse. You gotta take a shot at this.

Me?

Age-wise: M-1.

Gestalt-wise: Stun.

Pet-wise: Cat-apult.

Relationship-wise: Blunderbuss.

Gun-wise: Machete.

Etc. etc.

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Ace-o-aces  Feb 12, 2018 • 9:07:37pm

OMG, how did I miss this gem?

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Ace-o-aces  Feb 12, 2018 • 9:08:43pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 12, 2018 • 9:10:48pm

re: #11 Ace-o-aces

I believe (and I am not going back to read that long, rambling, insane post. So we’ll just have to rely on my memory) that the idea was they hooked up when she was studying in Washington State.
The same idea, by the way, was used to claim Obama was really Jimi Hendrix’s kid. We know that isn’t true, because if it was…Obama would have told everyone.

Heh reminds me of how Obama responded when he found out he was a very distant relative of Cheney. He wished he was related to Willie Mays.

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Ace-o-aces  Feb 12, 2018 • 9:10:51pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 12, 2018 • 9:11:07pm

re: #14 Ace-o-aces

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Oh?

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 12, 2018 • 9:12:42pm

re: #13 Ace-o-aces

That song is like eight months old.

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teleskiguy  Feb 12, 2018 • 9:12:47pm

Easily six inches plus of snow outside. First *real* dump this winter.

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sagehen  Feb 12, 2018 • 9:12:58pm

re: #9 Ace-o-aces

The Frank Marshall Davis “theory” is the only one that actually made logical sense. (He knew Obama’s family. It would have been scandalous for his mother to have a child by a much older man so they passed it off as her African classmate’s).
But, as you say, that would not have affected Obama’s eligibility one bit.
Also, for fuck’s sake, he looks noting like Davis!

all black people look alike

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sagehen  Feb 12, 2018 • 9:15:23pm

re: #11 Ace-o-aces

I believe (and I am not going back to read that long, rambling, insane post. So we’ll just have to rely on my memory) that the idea was they hooked up when she was studying in Washington State.
The same idea, by the way, was used to claim Obama was really Jimi Hendrix’s kid. We know that isn’t true, because if it was…Obama would have told everyone.

He even told us about embarrassing genealogy news, like when those people who do the candidate family trees every cycle discovered that he was 8th cousins with Dick Cheney. His reaction was “aw, man, I was hoping for something like Willie Mays. But this is what I get?!?”

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Ace-o-aces  Feb 12, 2018 • 9:17:24pm

re: #18 Ace Rothstein

That song is like eight months old.

I’m a 40-something white man. It’s hard for me to keep up with these things!

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 12, 2018 • 9:17:36pm

re: #19 teleskiguy

Easily six inches plus of snow outside. First *real* dump this winter.

We only have a slight fall of snow going on now. Looks like you’re getting your wish (snow in the mountains and not on the flat parts).

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Ace-o-aces  Feb 12, 2018 • 9:18:00pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 12, 2018 • 9:19:41pm

From a political cartoon:

“Anti-vaxxer is so negative! How about we label it pro-disease?”

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teleskiguy  Feb 12, 2018 • 9:22:21pm

re: #23 Anymouse 🌹

Ayup. I get to ski for a couple of hours tomorrow morning. Here’s the current snowstake cam at the ski area.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 12, 2018 • 9:22:36pm

re: #21 sagehen

He even told us about embarrassing genealogy news, like when those people who do the candidate family trees every cycle discovered that he was 8th cousins with Dick Cheney. His reaction was “aw, man, I was hoping for something like Willie Mays. But this is what I get?!?”

Yeah I remembered that since my Dad loves Willie Mays.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 12, 2018 • 9:24:36pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 12, 2018 • 9:24:44pm

re: #24 Ace-o-aces

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Only in America can you espouse Nazi and racist rhetoric and complain that your targets are the real bigots. FFS Sorbo they came here as small children. Get the fuck over yourself and seeing your past comments you’re a racist and a Nazi despite your protests.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 12, 2018 • 9:40:46pm

re: #16 Ace-o-aces

I’ve never seen a President work so hard at kneecapping the fuck out of his Secretary of State.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 12, 2018 • 9:44:32pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 12, 2018 • 9:50:52pm

“I do not support any immigration policy that would’ve kept my grandparents out of the country.”—Laurene Jobs, wife of Apple Computer founder Steve Jobs, April 12, 2013 (his grandparents were Syrian political refugees)

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 12, 2018 • 10:04:38pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 12, 2018 • 10:19:02pm

re: #31 goddamnedfrank

I really can’t upding this enough.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 12, 2018 • 10:22:43pm

My wife just gave me a gift … a package came in the mail today.

Ghost pepper hot sauce.

I think she wants me to keep it in a separate icebox.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 12, 2018 • 10:38:56pm
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Feb 12, 2018 • 10:56:37pm

Jóhann Jóhannsson

there was a really great swedish swing fiddler named bent persson

Youtube Video

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wheat-dogg  Feb 12, 2018 • 11:01:54pm

re: #37 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

Jóhann Jóhannsson

there was a really great swedish swing fiddler named bendt persson

Iceland is the only Norse country to retain the old-fashioned patronymic system. Sweden, at least, gradually phased in permanent surnames in the 1800s.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Feb 12, 2018 • 11:05:45pm

re: #38 wheat-dogg

Iceland is the only Norse country to retain the old-fashioned patronymic system. Sweden, at least, gradually phased it permanent surnames in the 1800s.

ja ja ja icelandic is also the only germanic language that keeps almost the entire system of conjugations, declensions, and other inflections present 1000 years ago in old norse

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Feb 12, 2018 • 11:17:48pm

wwiii is already underway

A war that began with peaceful protests against President Bashar al-Assad is rapidly descending into a global scramble for control over what remains of the broken country of Syria, risking a wider conflict.

Under skies crowded by the warplanes of half a dozen countries, an assortment of factions backed by rival powers are battling one another in a dizzying array of combinations. Allies on one battlefront are foes on another. The United States, Russia, Turkey and Iran have troops on the ground, and they are increasingly colliding.

In the space of a single week last week, Russia, Turkey, Iran and Israel lost aircraft to hostile fire. The United States, meanwhile, has been battling for days to hold back Iranian-supported Syrian tribal militias in the eastern desert, drawing U.S. forces closer toward entanglement in Syria’s conflict.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 12, 2018 • 11:27:06pm

Interesting

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 12, 2018 • 11:31:42pm
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goddamnedfrank  Feb 13, 2018 • 12:01:32am
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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Feb 13, 2018 • 1:09:49am

How long before Frankie gets caught up in a harrassment/assault scandal of his own, rather than just running interference for the pussy grabbers and wife beaters?
We should form a betting pool.

Facebook Post

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 13, 2018 • 1:15:18am

re: #44 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

How long before Frankie gets caught up in a harrassment/assault scandal of his own, rather than just running interference for the pussy grabbers and wife beaters?
We should form a betting pool.

It is possible for anyone to profess never to sin again and be forgiven, but those who support abortion and gay marriage remain outside god’s grace until they repent their views…

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 13, 2018 • 1:21:04am

LOL.

Rachel Oates is an atheist vlogger who lives in London.

She was viewing the swill that constitutes conservative blogging in the United States, and had the misfortune of running into an article at Daily Wire written by Matt Walsh, entitled “You OWE Your Husband Respect”

So she made a video about what she read in article and compared it to her own life (25:24), link to the original article in the description box at the YouTube video.

Matt Walsh: You OWE Your Husband Respect

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 13, 2018 • 1:24:06am

re: #45 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It is possible for anyone to profess never to sin again and be forgiven, but those who support abortion and gay marriage remain outside god’s grace until they repent their views…

And if you’re Kevin Swanson, gays should not be stoned to death until after they’ve been given a chance to “repent their sin.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 13, 2018 • 1:32:38am
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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 13, 2018 • 1:46:04am

The article at the Post starts:

White House counselor Kellyanne Conway said Sunday that she has no reason not to believe statements that Jennifer Willoughby and I have made about our ex-husband, former White House aide Rob Porter. I actually appreciated her saying that she at least did not not believe us.

But I was dismayed when Conway, appearing on CNN’s “State of the Union,” went on to say that she does not fear for White House Communications Director Hope Hicks, who has reportedly been dating Porter. “I’ve rarely met somebody so strong with such excellent instincts and loyalty and smarts.”

Borrowing Conway’s words, I have no reason not to believe her when she says that Hicks is a strong woman. But her statement implies that those who have been in abusive relationships are not strong.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 13, 2018 • 1:58:22am

re: #49 Anymouse 🌹

MRAs will be all over this, framing it as a spurned woman’s revenge…

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 13, 2018 • 2:00:37am

re: #50 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

MRAs will be all over this, framing it as a spurned woman’s revenge…

Yup. To the MRA’s women are supposed to take whatever they get, and cannot give back.

What I find amazing is that this guy thought that taking a job in the White House (under any president) wouldn’t bring out this information. That is chutzpah.

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Pineapple Pizzagate  Feb 13, 2018 • 2:03:15am

RIP Tom Rapp
March 8, 1947 - February 11, 2018

Pearls Before Swine - Drop Out!

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Feb 13, 2018 • 3:21:04am

Katie Rose Quandt at billmoyers.com
Why Do So Many Young Americans Misunderstand Vaccination?

Since the end of December, 114 people from seven states have been reported to have measles, part of an ongoing outbreak that originated at California’s Disneyland theme park. The outbreak came at the tail of a record-setting 2014, when the Centers for Disease Control and Submission (CDC) recorded 644 cases of measles across 27 states, the highest since the disease was declared eliminated from the United States in 2000.

Btw, when you get tired of constantly wrestling with the Stupid, I highly recommend billmoyers.com for a cool, refreshing draft of reason and humanity.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 13, 2018 • 3:24:28am

re: #53 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Katie Rose Quandt at billmoyers.com
Why Do So Many Young Americans Misunderstand Vaccination?

Btw, when you get tired of constantly wrestling with the Stupid, I highly recommend billmoyers.com for a cool, refreshing draft of reason and humanity.

I often describe it as an overlap of anti-big pharma, anti-western medicine moonbats on the one hand and anti-science, anti-big government wingnuts on the other

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MsJ  Feb 13, 2018 • 4:23:19am
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jeffreyw  Feb 13, 2018 • 4:54:10am

Imgur

Good morning!

Hello!

Hello?

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Feb 13, 2018 • 5:11:20am

Good morning.
(Always feels good to finally catch up on the threads)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 13, 2018 • 5:14:34am

re: #57 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

Good morning.
(Always feels good to finally catch up on the threads)

I been away a lot, took a while here

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Decatur Deb  Feb 13, 2018 • 5:27:02am

re: #58 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I been away a lot, took a while here

I’ve been paying attention in bursts since I started entertaining the kidney stone. Mostly I’ve been sleeping (which is good).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 13, 2018 • 5:29:20am

re: #59 Decatur Deb

I’ve been paying attention in bursts since I started entertaining the kidney stone. Mostly I’ve been sleeping (which is good).

I am in Finland, visiting an old buddy and playing some music. three gigs and a session, but we still found time for some cross-country skiing and a visit to the local sauna from the early 1900’s, still wood-fired with no showers, just buckets.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 13, 2018 • 5:49:33am

re: #10 HappyWarrior

And then there was the wacky theory that Davis seduced young Obama. But at least with Davis, they actually knew each other. I don’t even know if Malcolm X visited Hawaii. It was all disgusting though, attacking Obama’s deceased mother who from all accounts was an incredible woman & mother who died too young.

And Dimwit D’Stupid added gas to the fire when he alleged Obama’s mother was a prostitute.

Once again proving 2 things when it comes to these assholes!

1) There is no lie Republicans will not tell to benefit the Party and

2) Conservatives are really stupid people.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 13, 2018 • 5:50:41am

re: #60 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I think you’re supposed to hit yourself with something, too. For that Full Sauna experience.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 13, 2018 • 5:52:01am

Such Bullshit…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 13, 2018 • 5:52:23am

re: #62 Decatur Deb

I think you’re supposed to hit yourself with something, too. Fror that Full Sauna experience.

the Russian like to flail each other with birch twigs. as it was I was fine until the poured water onto the sauna stones…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 13, 2018 • 5:55:29am

re: #44 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

How long before Frankie gets caught up in a harrassment/assault scandal of his own, rather than just running interference for the pussy grabbers and wife beaters?
We should form a betting pool.

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Franky Graham Cracker ignores the 2000+ lies that came from the mouth and asshole of Orange Foolius.

Now why would he do that?

Maybe that $1 million bribe that he got from the Trump Inauguration Committee has something to do with it…

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Decatur Deb  Feb 13, 2018 • 5:57:37am

re: #64 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Over the next 10 days we’re looking at highs in the 80’s, lows in the 60s. Alabama sort of is a sauna.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 13, 2018 • 5:58:19am

Glorious heavy rain here at last in Los Angeles last night and more is on the way!

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Dave In Austin  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:02:52am

Cold and dreary here in CENTEX. I got to split a cord o wood today. Fishing tomorrow.

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Unshaken Defiance  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:05:25am

Well it’s too early to be angry. Yes it is. And yet…

Think of it as Blue Apron for food stamp recipients.
That’s how Budget Director Mick Mulvaney described the Trump administration’s proposal to replace nearly half of poor Americans’ monthly cash benefits with a box of food. It would affect households that receive at least $90 a month in food stamps, or roughly 38 million people.

money.cnn.com

Maybe decaf this morning.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:15:15am

Pissed me off this morning…..

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Shropshire Slasher  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:16:35am

re: #69 Unshaken Defiance

Don’t tell Amazon, they may want to corner the market.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:18:12am

re: #70 Dave In Austin

Pissed me off this morning…..

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Answer—Right Wing Religion makes you stupid…Real stupid…

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Unshaken Defiance  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:18:29am

re: #71 Shropshire Slasher

Don’t tell Amazon, they may want to corner the market.

“Sub Prime” will have a Whole Foods new meaning. Trump Steak.

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Unshaken Defiance  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:21:44am

Oh and hello my friends. Sorry to just drop in with bad news again.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:22:46am

Stock market futures down this morning after yesterday’s big gains. The Roller Coaster is headed down again! As an aside, I can’t ride wild coasters anymore; they make me sick.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:23:44am

re: #75 Big Beautiful Door

Stock market futures down this morning after yesterday’s big gains. The Roller Coaster is headed down again! As an aside, I can’t ride wild coasters anymore; they make me sick.

Aren’t they supposed to?

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Dave In Austin  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:26:23am

re: #72 Joe Bacon 🌹

Answer—Right Wing Religion makes you stupid…Real stupid…

Did you see that? What a croc o shit.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:26:31am

re: #76 Decatur Deb

Aren’t they supposed to?

I made the mistake of going to see The Blair Witch Project when it was at the theaters. It wasn’t scary, but the jerky handheld camera work did make me sick enough that I had to literally run to the restroom and puke.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:27:19am

re: #77 Dave In Austin

Did you see that? What a croc o shit.

It’s what passes for Christianity in America!

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Decatur Deb  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:28:46am

re: #78 Big Beautiful Door

I made the mistake of going to see

when it was at the theaters. It wasn’t scary, but the jerky handheld camera work did make me sick enough that I had to literally run to the restroom and puke.

Don’t want to go super macho, but I was rooting for the ‘witch’ all the way through that.

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William Lewis  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:29:18am

re: #79 Joe Bacon 🌹

It’s what passes for Christianity in America!

All too often but it’s not the only version around. Please remember that there are some of us who do try to do what’s right by what He taught rather than seeking fame, money or secular power.

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makeitstop  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:29:35am

How cute. Says Who is shopping an insider book.

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makeitstop  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:30:55am

re: #82 makeitstop

How cute. Says Who is shopping an insider book.

Also: Backpfeifengesicht

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makeitstop  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:46:32am
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Targetpractice  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:58:05am

re: #69 Unshaken Defiance

Well it’s too early to be angry. Yes it is. And yet…

money.cnn.com

Maybe decaf this morning.

Gee, who wants to bet that one or more of Trump’s cronies have stock in a major food company looking to get in on this “delivery service”?

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makeitstop  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:01:48am

This is oddly compelling. Dunno what they’re singing about, but…antlers!

Heilung | LIFA - Krigsgaldr LIVE

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HappyWarrior  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:02:11am

re: #84 makeitstop

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One of them is in my district. I’m not surprised. Trump has earned rightfully their disrespect because he belittles them.

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Belafon  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:02:55am

re: #84 makeitstop

Law and order Democrats. I welcome them, and will enjoy watching the inevitable grumbling from people when it comes time to pass some bills.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:07:31am

re: #69 Unshaken Defiance

Well it’s too early to be angry. Yes it is. And yet…

money.cnn.com

Maybe decaf this morning.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:09:44am
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The Ghost of a Flea  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:12:21am

re: #90 Backwoods_Sleuth

Allotments contracted out to private providers.

Go to a reservation and ask about how well those worked.

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Targetpractice  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:12:44am

re: #90 Backwoods_Sleuth

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A return to the days of government cheese, meant for only one purpose: to further the image that “those people” aren’t living lives of “luxury.”

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:13:20am

re: #90 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ah yes…..punish the poor.

The GOP just needs to make this theme song and be done with it.

Dead Kennedys - Kill The Poor

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Belafon  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:14:50am

re: #93 Dr Lizardo

Ah yes…..punish the poor.

The GOP just needs to make this theme song and be done with it.

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That’ll be the next GOP nominee.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:17:11am

re: #85 Targetpractice

Gee, who wants to bet that one or more of Trump’s cronies have stock in a major food company looking to get in on this “delivery service”?

I’m sure Franky and his Pulpit Pimpin’ Pals are ready to make a mint from it!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:17:38am

re: #92 Targetpractice

A return to the days of government cheese, meant for only one purpose: to further the image that “those people” aren’t living lives of “luxury.”


call any vegetable!

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HappyWarrior  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:18:59am

re: #90 Backwoods_Sleuth

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And then we’ll see the FNC talking heads saying they can’t be that poor if they’re overweight. The fuck.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:21:10am

Until we work our way back to scurvy and beri-beri, it’s not a real Republican safety net.

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Targetpractice  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:21:21am

You gotta love the GOP philosophy that says restricting/banning large soda cups is a blatant violation of one’s right to buy whatever they like, but the poor getting a box of generic food shoved in their hands instead of choosing what foods they want is totally kosher.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:22:17am

re: #99 Targetpractice

You gotta love the GOP philosophy that says restricting/banning large soda cups is a blatant violation of one’s right to buy whatever they like, but the poor getting a box of generic food shoved in their hands instead of choosing what foods they want is totally kosher.

Wouldn’t be looking for a lot of kosher.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:23:20am

re: #96 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))


call any vegetable!

Don’t forget the ketchup! 😉

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HappyWarrior  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:23:53am

re: #99 Targetpractice

You gotta love the GOP philosophy that says restricting/banning large soda cups is a blatant violation of one’s right to buy whatever they like, but the poor getting a box of generic food shoved in their hands instead of choosing what foods they want is totally kosher.

Conservatism is a sham, reason #4778424

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Targetpractice  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:24:18am

re: #100 Decatur Deb

Wouldn’t be looking for a lot of kosher.

Oh yeah, there’s another angle against this: Food waste. This program sounds great to bureaucrats whose buddies in the food industry will be able to dump their unwanted products into a “food box” for the poors. But all you’re going to end up with is a lot food getting dumped in the trash because not everybody is going to love whatever a bean-counter in D.C. says should go in the box.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:26:56am

Actually, the big loser might be Walmart—SNAP keeps their grocery section floating.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:28:48am

Walmart Could Lose $12.7 Billion in Sales Over Next Decade if Food Stamps Are Slashed

fortune.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:28:57am

re: #104 Decatur Deb

Actually, the big loser might be Walmart—SNAP keeps their grocery section floating.

because half of their staff use SNAP to shop there…

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Targetpractice  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:29:27am

I guarantee you that, within a month of such a program beginning, there will be wingnuts screaming that the whole thing is a stealth program to convert Christians to Islam, with pictures of food boxes labeled “Halal-compliant” or such.

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danarchy  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:29:33am

re: #99 Targetpractice

You gotta love the GOP philosophy that says restricting/banning large soda cups is a blatant violation of one’s right to buy whatever they like, but the poor getting a box of generic food shoved in their hands instead of choosing what foods they want is totally kosher.

To conservatives this is completely consistent. In one instance it is about the government telling you how you can spend your own money, and in the other it is how the government is going to spend money they seized from you. The poor folks at the other end hardly factor in to the equation at all.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:29:42am

re: #106 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

because half of their staff use SNAP to shop there…

Think of the trips they save!

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Dr. Matt  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:32:40am

GOP official resigns in Michigan: I could ‘no longer remain silent’ about Trump

The chairman of the Republican Party in Bay County, Mich., announced last week he was resigning from his position, saying he could “no longer remain silent” about President Trump.

“I have not seen a leader, I’ve only seen more of the same,” Brandon DeFrain, who has served in his post since 2014, wrote in a Facebook post, according to MLive.

He said he has seen more racism in the streets, on social media and in schools and more hatred between family members.

“I’m tired of attempting to defend a machine that does not defend the people I love,” he wrote. DeFrain said he hasn’t talked much about the current state of political affairs in the past because he “believed in giving our leaders a chance.”

Too little, too late. The majority of planet warned Trump voters, and they laughed at and ignored us.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:33:53am

re: #110 Dr. Matt

GOP official resigns in Michigan: I could ‘no longer remain silent’ about Trump

Too little, too late. The majority of planet warned Trump voters, and they laughed at and ignored us.

The party made a deal with the devil to get themselves elected, and their end of the bargain is due soon…

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Eventual Carrion  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:34:40am

re: #82 makeitstop

How cute. Says Who is shopping an insider book.

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So it is stocked in the fiction section?

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Targetpractice  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:34:59am

Throughout the Cold War, America pointed and laughed at the Soviet Union bread lines and extolled the virtues of capitalism that said even the poorest American could go to the grocery store and buy whatever they could afford.

Now the Trump administration looks at the USSR and declares “That’s a pretty good idea!”

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Jay C  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:35:26am

re: #99 Targetpractice

You gotta love the GOP philosophy that says restricting/banning large soda cups is a blatant violation of one’s right to buy whatever they like, but the poor getting a box of generic food shoved in their hands instead of choosing what foods they want is totally kosher.

Well, this is just bog-standard 21st-Century Republicanism [attempting to be enacted into] in action: “freedom of choice” is a fine concept when it comes to spending one’s own money (mostly), but when it’s the government’s dime, all standards no longer apply, and “welfare bums” ought to just accept what they get - and don’t get a say in any of it.

It’s in line with stuff I read a while back about other great Republican notions (mainly from State governments they control) like how “welfare recipients” ought not to be able to vote as long as they receive any form of direct government aid: demonizing the poor is GOP-standard stuff: if they thought they could get away with it, they would criminalize them as well.

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Belafon  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:36:10am

re: #110 Dr. Matt

GOP official resigns in Michigan: I could ‘no longer remain silent’ about Trump

Too little, too late. The majority of planet warned Trump voters, and they laughed at and ignored us.

Everyone has to make their journey. Some are more stubborn than others, but at least it’s not after the missiles are launched.

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dangerman  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:37:10am

re: #44 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

How long before Frankie gets caught up in a harrassment/assault scandal of his own, rather than just running interference for the pussy grabbers and wife beaters?
We should form a betting pool.

“Franklin Graham: Trump stopped sinning when he became President”.

i think graham needs to brush up on sinning.
he could start with the commandments
there are only 10 of them (or so)

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Mike Lamb  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:38:22am

re: #90 Backwoods_Sleuth

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GOP: I saw someone on SNAP look at a live lobster tank once, and they almost bought an organic carrot. One of them almost touched ME!!! These young bucks have it way to good. Someone get Arpaio on the phone. I need the contact info for his food vendor at Tent City. Fresh vegetables. Of all the nerve.

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Targetpractice  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:38:24am

re: #114 Jay C

Well, this is just bog-standard 21st-Century Republicanism [attempting to be enacted into] in action: “freedom of choice” is a fine concept when it comes to spending one’s own money (mostly), but when it’s the government’s dime, all standards no longer apply, and “welfare bums” ought to just accept what they get - and don’t get a say in any of it.

It’s in line with stuff I read a while back about other great Republican notions (mainly from State governments they control) like how “welfare recipients” ought not to be able to vote as long as they receive any form of direct government aid: demonizing the poor is GOP-standard stuff: if they thought they could get away with it, they would criminalize them as well.

Oh, we already know if Jared had his way, tenants unable to pay rent would be sent to debtor’s prison until they paid their debts to him. The modern GOP truly believes that poverty is a moral failing, a willful decision to be poor, rather than the result of their “pro-business” philosophy of cutting down as many barriers between a business owner and “his” money.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:40:09am

re: #106 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

because half of their staff use SNAP to shop there…

Only half?????

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Interesting Times  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:40:49am

re: #102 HappyWarrior

Conservatism is a sham, reason #4778424

On that note, remember this article that was shared here last night?

For Trump supporters, rejecting him would mean rejecting their own values

In the “communion mode” authority structure…people’s recognition of legitimate authority is “based on an appeal to common values and creeds.”

“In this mode,” added Gray, “the legitimacy for actions lies in consistency with the understandings, protocols, and guiding values of shared frames of reference.”

Compare that to the contractual mode, which is based an agreement that sets out obligations and rewards, or “command mode,” which Gray said, “is based on the rule of law emanating from a sovereign body and delivered through a scalar chain of superior and subordinate authority.”

Significantly, researchers have also found that religious communion authority followers make contributions as a show of their values rather than to affect any consequence.

So, in this SNAP case, the “values” being celebrated are durr hurr, punish teh lazy brown moochers!!!!11! and bootstraps!!11!! Even the wingnuts on SNAP themselves will enthusiastically support this move, since it’s an appeal to their sick and twisted “values.”

Another crucial takeaway, particularly from the section I bolded on “contractual mode” - that’s what the Dem base and lean-Dem voters operate on, and it’s why their election turnout tends to be so abysmally miserable -_- If they perceive Dem politicians as reneging on a promise, or failing to live up to a principle, they’ll stay home. Compare this to GOPers who only care about whether or not someone says the magick words, recites the right shibboleths, and justifies their bigotry and hate.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:42:14am

re: #104 Decatur Deb

Actually, the big loser might be Walmart—SNAP keeps their grocery section floating.

Let’s not ignore the fact that no government agency will actually be established, or tasked to collect and deliver goods. It will be contracted out.
Walmart is more poised to be able to lock down state contracts to deliver goods at an “approved” schedule. They already offer free two-day delivery of stable goods orders of $35 or more. They would need to develop a more local infrastructure for perishable goods. But, they likely have a better price point to still find profit in such a setup.

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ObserverArt  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:43:19am

re: #86 makeitstop

This is oddly compelling. Dunno what they’re singing about, but…antlers!

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Video

Ahhh…those crazy Germans.

I was waiting for some type of deer to come running onto the stage thinking the opening was some kind of a mating call with all the antler rattling.

Oh yeah…morning. It is sunny out…so looking forward to the high 40s and low 50s I am seeing on the long range forecasts.

It has been a too-long Trump winter.

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Renaissance_Man  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:44:26am

re: #118 Targetpractice

Oh, we already know if Jared had his way, tenants unable to pay rent would be sent to debtor’s prison until they paid their debts to him. The modern GOP truly believes that poverty is a moral failing, a willful decision to be poor, rather than the result of their “pro-business” philosophy of cutting down as many barriers between a business owner and “his” money.

Not sure if they truly believe that. Some might, but I suspect others are aware on some level that it is a lie they tell themselves in order to justify greed and hatred of other people. That’s Ayn Rand’s great gift to modern day authoritarians - attempting to morally justify greed and oppressing others. In the past, we told ourselves it was the will of God, or the result of superior bloodlines. Nowadays we have Objectivism. But the purpose is the same - enabling small-minded, greedy people who enjoy cruelty to pretend that their evil is their right.

That’s the philosophy that the modern day Republicans are all in on. And that’s the philosophy that FOX teaches its believers.

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Targetpractice  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:46:13am

re: #121 FormerDirtDart

Let’s not ignore the fact that no government agency will actually be established, or tasked to collect and deliver goods. It will be contracted out.
Walmart is more poised to be able to lock down state contracts to deliver goods at an “approved” schedule. They already offer free two-day delivery of stable goods orders of $35 or more. They would need to develop a more local infrastructure for perishable goods. But, they likely have a better price point to still find profit in such a setup.

According to the article, the Feds would “free” the local communities to figure out how they’d distribute these boxes. And while some would opt for home deliveries, I could see just as many designating a local disused government building or warehouse as a “distribution center.” Why spend money taking boxes to “the poors” when you can further stigmatize them by forcing them to all show up at the same building on whatever regular schedule the local gov’t sets for box pick-ups?

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Decatur Deb  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:46:50am

re: #119 Joe Bacon 🌹

Only half?????

Report: Walmart Workers Cost Taxpayers $6.2 Billion In Public Assistance

forbes.com

Walmart has challenged this with claims that have been challenged in their turn.

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dangerman  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:48:02am

re: #103 Targetpractice

Oh yeah, there’s another angle against this: Food waste. This program sounds great to bureaucrats whose buddies in the food industry will be able to dump their unwanted products into a “food box” for the poors. But all you’re going to end up with is a lot food getting dumped in the trash because not everybody is going to love whatever a bean-counter in D.C. says should go in the box.

or those on diets or special needs

just from this: “shelf-stable milk, cereals, pasta, peanut butter, beans and canned fruit and vegetables.”

gluten free
nut free
lactose intolerant
diabetic

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dangerman  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:49:54am

re: #110 Dr. Matt

GOP official resigns in Michigan: I could ‘no longer remain silent’ about Trump

Too little, too late. The majority of planet warned Trump voters, and they laughed at and ignored us.

they cant be wrong in their assessment of trump.
to do so would shatter their own self image
and their world view

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Targetpractice  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:50:51am

re: #126 dangerman

or those on diets or special needs

just from this: “shelf-stable milk, cereals, pasta, peanut butter, beans and canned fruit and vegetables.”

gluten free
nut free
lactose intolerant
diabetic

Don’t forget kosher/halal. And you can already hear wingnuts squealing over “the poors” being given access to “luxuries” such as gluten-free pasta.

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dangerman  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:51:22am

re: #111 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The party made a deal with the devil to get themselves elected, and their end of the bargain is due soon…

EVERY Trump voter made the same Faustian bargain. Wealthy, ‘fiscally conservative moderates’ traded social justice, the planet, their daughter’s rights, international relations, safe gun policy, the health care of millions and much more for their own tax cut. The struggling, white middle class traded it all for a fictional job promise.

And now we can see that the bargain got worse - what seemed like a temporary political compromise is becoming an indelible moral stain.

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dangerman  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:53:24am

re: #118 Targetpractice

Oh, we already know if Jared had his way, tenants unable to pay rent would be sent to “a private sector, for profit” debtor’s prison until they paid their debts to him. The modern GOP truly believes that poverty is a moral failing, a willful decision to be poor, rather than the result of their “pro-business” philosophy of cutting down as many barriers between a business owner and “his” money.

just helping out there…

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:53:49am

re: #124 Targetpractice

According to the article, the Feds would “free” the local communities to figure out how they’d distribute these boxes. And while some would opt for home deliveries, I could see just as many designating a local disused government building or warehouse as a “distribution center.” Why spend money taking boxes to “the poors” when you can further stigmatize them by forcing them to all show up at the same building on whatever regular schedule the local gov’t sets for box pick-ups?

Good point. And again, Walmart has a huge footprint, and already offers pickup service, at a sort of “back door” on many new stores. And, they did recently establish a bunch of their “neighborhood markets”

But yes, there is no doubt that some states/localities will contract some shady as fuck groups that will force the “poors” to travel great distances to some dilapidated warehouses for the privilege to receive their government rations.

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Targetpractice  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:55:38am

re: #131 FormerDirtDart

Good point. And again, Walmart has a huge footprint, and already offers pickup service, at a sort of “back door” on many new stores. And, they did recently establish a bunch of their “neighborhood markets”

But yes, there is no doubt that some states/localities will contract some shady as fuck groups that will force the “poors” to travel great distances to some dilapidated warehouses for the privilege to receive their government rations.

Let’s not forget the inevitable corruption that will see boxes go “missing” to the local black market or Ebay.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:55:54am

re: #131 FormerDirtDart

Good point. And again, Walmart has a huge footprint, and already offers pickup service, at a sort of “back door” on many new stores. And, they did recently establish a bunch of their “neighborhood markets”

But yes, there is no doubt that some states/localities will contract some shady as fuck groups that will force the “poors” to travel great distances to some dilapidated warehouses for the privilege to receive their government rations.

Of course you could go to a parsonage of the proper sort to pick up your USDA allotment. On Sunday, after services.

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makeitstop  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:56:06am

re: #126 dangerman

or those on diets or special needs

just from this: “shelf-stable milk, cereals, pasta, peanut butter, beans and canned fruit and vegetables.”

gluten free
nut free
lactose intolerant
diabetic

Hey, and with the impending end of those pesky regulations (they’re strangling the FDA, right?), they can just throw in all those ‘seconds’ that otherwise would be thrown away due to spoilage! Win-win (for somebody)!

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ObserverArt  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:56:26am

re: #114 Jay C

Well, this is just bog-standard 21st-Century Republicanism [attempting to be enacted into] in action: “freedom of choice” is a fine concept when it comes to spending one’s own money (mostly), but when it’s the government’s dime, all standards no longer apply, and “welfare bums” ought to just accept what they get - and don’t get a say in any of it.

It’s in line with stuff I read a while back about other great Republican notions (mainly from State governments they control) like how “welfare recipients” ought not to be able to vote as long as they receive any form of direct government aid: demonizing the poor is GOP-standard stuff: if they thought they could get away with it, they would criminalize them as well.

Their thinking on all of this stuff is to drive people off social help any way they can. If funky food, medical care and other forms of hidden punishments makes people go out and take the jobs the people “the walls*” block from entering the country then America Will Be Great Again. So it is written in The Great God Book of Conservatism - 21st Century Evangelical Addition.

*The Walls - all of the Trump efforts to stop people of color coming to America. The people that take the low paying jobs like farm, construction, low service labor, etc. to get up and going. Cutting additional family also harms the immigrants that many times rely on extended families to help build lives in America by sharing living expenses, combining money to buy homes, cars, etc.

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Renaissance_Man  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:56:28am

re: #129 dangerman

EVERY Trump voter made the same Faustian bargain. Wealthy, ‘fiscally conservative moderates’ traded social justice, the planet, their daughter’s rights, international relations, safe gun policy, the health care of millions and much more for their own tax cut. The struggling, white middle class traded it all for a fictional job promise.

And now we can see that the bargain got worse - what seemed like a temporary political compromise is becoming an indelible moral stain.

The white middle class traded it for the freedom to hate people publicly. That’s why they won’t change their vote whether they get a job or not. They’re getting what they really wanted - the ability to display the hatred that FOX gives them, and the visceral pleasure of watching someone bully the people FOX told them to hate.

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Jay C  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:57:26am

re: #120 Interesting Times

Another crucial takeaway, particularly from the section I bolded on “contractual mode” - that’s what the Dem base and lean-Dem voters operate on, and it’s why their election turnout tends to be so abysmally miserable -_- If they perceive Dem politicians as reneging on a promise, or failing to live up to a principle, they’ll stay home. Compare this to GOPers who only care about whether or not someone says the magick words, recites the right shibboleths, and justifies their bigotry and hate.

Yep: one of this nation’s principle political problems boiled down to the basics: Democrats appeal to peoples’ interests: Republicans, to their prejudices. And we’ve seen which approach generally works better…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:57:59am

re: #133 Decatur Deb

Of course you could go to a parsonage of the proper sort to pick up your USDA allotment. On Sunday, after services.

And you only get the box after giving your tithe to the Pulpit Pimp!

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Decatur Deb  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:59:36am

re: #138 Joe Bacon 🌹

And you only get the box after giving your tithe to the Pulpit Pimp!

All he wants is to see your smiling face. The costs to his flock can be covered up front in the GSA contract.

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ObserverArt  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:02:15am

re: #124 Targetpractice

According to the article, the Feds would “free” the local communities to figure out how they’d distribute these boxes. And while some would opt for home deliveries, I could see just as many designating a local disused government building or warehouse as a “distribution center.” Why spend money taking boxes to “the poors” when you can further stigmatize them by forcing them to all show up at the same building on whatever regular schedule the local gov’t sets for box pick-ups?

Hmmm. Sounds just like church food pantries for the needy. A great way for Franky Graham and all the other God Botherers to be at the location to save the sinners waiting for their monthly food box. Trump supporters will be there too…telling everyone why Democrats are The Evil.

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Belafon  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:03:37am
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dangerman  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:04:55am

re: #136 Renaissance_Man

The white middle class traded it for the freedom to hate people publicly. That’s why they won’t change their vote whether they get a job or not. They’re getting what they really wanted - the ability to display the hatred that FOX gives them, and the visceral pleasure of watching someone bully the people FOX told them to hate.

sort of

i was focusing on the financial aspects only - tax cuts for the rich, “jobs” for the middle class - coal, car factories and all those other promises. these people abandoned their spiritual and moral selves for money. - just look at graham up thread.

the people you’re talking about didnt (imo) make any kind of bargain against their soul.
what i think is they saw trump as a way - almost permission - to let their freak selves out in public

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Dr. Matt  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:04:55am

REVEALED: Omarosa was fired for using the presidential motorcade as personal car service

And in December, he dismissed the former director of communications for the Office of Public Liaison, Omarosa Manigault, who had been using the White House car service — known as “CARPET” — as an office pick-up and drop-off service, something strictly forbidden by the federal government, according to three administration officials.

After Kelly dismissed her, Manigault tried to storm the White House residence to appeal to Trump, according to one of the officials, accidentally tripping an electronic Secret Service wire that monitors entry and egress from the residence.

The White House did not respond to a request for comment about Manigault’s departure.

I’m guessing she would still be employed if she was a White male.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:05:04am

re: #140 ObserverArt

Hmmm. Sounds just like church food pantries for the needy. A great way for Franky Graham and all the other God Botherers to be at the location to save the sinners waiting for their monthly food box. Trump supporters will be there too…telling everyone why Democrats are The Evil.

To be fair, at the moment there are some barriers at the community food bank level that keep USDA-provided food away from the church pantries, providing local donations.

At the moment.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:06:16am

re: #139 Decatur Deb

All he wants is to see your smiling face. The costs to his flock can be covered up front in the GSA contract.

Won’t be enough for 0$teen!

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dangerman  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:07:02am

re: #143 Dr. Matt

REVEALED: Omarosa was fired for using the presidential motorcade as personal car service

I’m guessing she would still be employed if she was a White male had used a jet.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:07:03am
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Targetpractice  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:07:58am

re: #141 Belafon

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“And by ‘fix,’ we mean gut it so thoroughly that, next go-around, we can abolish it altogether.”

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:08:35am
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Belafon  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:09:47am

re: #143 Dr. Matt

REVEALED: Omarosa was fired for using the presidential motorcade as personal car service

I’m guessing she would still be employed if she was a White male.

To tell you how stupid she is, a conservative black woman should be able to get paid to show up every other day on Fox for the next dozen years. Yet, somehow, she’s on Celebrity Big Brother instead.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:10:43am

re: #147 FormerDirtDart

Your daily reminder that the so-called “blue lives matter” crowd spend every day defending Julian Assange and denigrating the FBI, CIA, and the US Intelligence community.

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Targetpractice  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:10:52am

re: #149 FormerDirtDart

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Just like government cheese, these boxes will be the dumping ground for any surpluses that exist in the agra-sector in order to keep food prices stable. If there’s a corn surplus this month, guess what’s gonna be in the box next month?

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plansbandc  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:12:13am

Ice on a trampoline…

i.imgur.com

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Decatur Deb  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:12:43am

re: #152 Targetpractice

Just like government cheese, these boxes will be the dumping ground for any surpluses that exist in the agra-sector in order to keep food prices stable. If there’s a corn surplus this month, guess what’s gonna be in the box next month?

A health-conscious recipe for Grits a la Ka-ro?

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Dr. Matt  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:12:59am

re: #150 Belafon

To tell you how stupid she is, a conservative black woman should be able to get paid to show up every other day on Fox for the next dozen years. Yet, somehow, she’s on Celebrity Big Brother instead.

She’s sticking with her comfort zone and expertise: reality TV.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:15:12am

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Renaissance_Man  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:15:44am

re: #152 Targetpractice

Just like government cheese, these boxes will be the dumping ground for any surpluses that exist in the agra-sector in order to keep food prices stable. If there’s a corn surplus this month, guess what’s gonna be in the box next month?

21st century frybread.

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dangerman  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:19:47am

re: #149 FormerDirtDart

Think of it as Blue Apron for food stamp recipients.

That’s how Budget Director Mick Mulvaney described the Trump administration’s proposal to replace nearly half of poor Americans’ monthly cash benefits with a box of food

from some article somewhere - maybe a year or two old

Blue Apron has two plans: a 2-person and a 4-person subscription, both with 3 meals per week. The 2-person plan is $59.94 per week ($9.99 per person) while the family plan is $139.84 per week ($8.74 per person). Hello Fresh costs a bit more, again with 2-person and 4-person subscription options and 3 meals per week

snap benefits are how much?

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JordanRules  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:20:21am

re: #150 Belafon

She’s not a conservative. She worked with Dems all her life before 45. She legit wouldn’t know what to do on Fox.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:25:00am

And remember, if the “poors’ are supplied shelf stable goods their housing requirements won’t need luxuries, like refrigerators

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Decatur Deb  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:25:27am

re: #158 dangerman

from some article somewhere - maybe a year or two old

snap benefits are how much?

Varies, but <10/meal.

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whitebeach  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:26:23am

Some may carp, but I see this SNAP/food plan as pretty inspiring.

I’m hoping the wingies follow up by making 25% of Social Security benefits payable in Velveeta and Spam.

Or with Medicare, every fourth visit to the doctor, you get handed a bottle of Ibuprofen at the registration desk, no matter what, that’s it, see ya next month.

The possibilities are endless.

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William Lewis  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:27:28am

Oh, SNAP…
I see they’re bound and determined to ratfuck this program too. And what we are already allowed to buy with our EBT cards isn’t much better.

Soda: expensive flavored high-fructose corn syryp & water.

Chips: expensive flavored corn flour, hfcs & salt. I mean, when plain potato chips (potato, oil & salt) are the healthy food in a purchase, there’s already something wrong.

You can buy a frozen pizza but if we bake that exact same pizza first? Nope. Not allowed. Because it’s “Hot” rather than cooked by the stay at home mom that was already becoming a fantasy when Food Stamps started in the 60’s.

I’d rather see someone be able to buy a cooked pizza and feed the family something fairly nutritious than yet more chips and soda. But then the big food biz doesn’t get enough of the cut; not enough nasty corn sugar gets in the diet to make us fatter…

I’d almost be tempted to run against Sean Duffy on a platform of banning HFCS for human consumption.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:27:29am

re: #161 Decatur Deb

Varies, but <10/meal.

Yep. Depends on marital status, number of children, income, etc.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:28:37am

re: #163 William Lewis

You’d have my vote.

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Skip Intro  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:28:59am

Trump budget to shut down all satellite monitoring of the planet.

Among the items targeted for elimination is the Wide Field Infrared Survey Telescope, or WFIRST. The plan was to build this using the optical hardware of a spy satellite that was donated by the intelligence community. Once in orbit, it would scan the entire infrared sky using a wide-field lens, allowing large catalogs of different objects, including near-Earth asteroids, to be generated. The budget document more or less says that NASA is getting the James Webb Telescope and shouldn’t expect another so soon: “developing another large space telescope immediately after completing the $8.8 billion James Webb Space Telescope is not a priority for the Administration.”

Don’t tell them about Spitzer and Chandra.

If you think it’s only a joke to suggest that the Trump administration would terminate an active observatory once we’ve gone through the expense of putting it in orbit, well, then you haven’t read the rest of the budget proposal, which attempts to follow through on earlier threats to gut NASA’s Earth-observing missions. Two are not yet launched. One is a satellite called CLARREO pathfinder, which is intended to develop instruments for a follow-on satellite to produce detailed climate records. Another, PACE, would track ocean-atmosphere interactions. Two other satellites would have specific instruments shut down—one of them an Earth-observing camera championed by Al Gore that has been targeted by every Republican administration since he left the vice presidency (the Bush administration shelved the working hardware rather than put it in orbit).

But the most striking thing is the call to shut down the Orbiting Carbon Observatory, which has only been in operation for less than four years. The ability to monitor Earths’ carbon dioxide fluxes was considered so important for following climate change that NASA built a second after the first was lost in a launch accident. The Trump administration would now shut it down.

arstechnica.com

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:29:31am

re: #154 Decatur Deb

A recipe for Grits a la Ka-ro?

Apparently such recipe ideas are lacking. Karo Syrup - Recipes

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:30:06am

re: #166 Skip Intro

So apparently asteroids are a Liberal conspiracy now?

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:31:12am

re: #114 Jay C

Well, this is just bog-standard 21st-Century Republicanism [attempting to be enacted into] in action: “freedom of choice” is a fine concept when it comes to spending one’s own money (mostly), but when it’s the government’s dime, all standards no longer apply, and “welfare bums” ought to just accept what they get - and don’t get a say in any of it.

It’s in line with stuff I read a while back about other great Republican notions (mainly from State governments they control) like how “welfare recipients” ought not to be able to vote as long as they receive any form of direct government aid: demonizing the poor is GOP-standard stuff: if they thought they could get away with it, they would criminalize them as well.

The next step is making them pee in a cup for drug testing to get their box of canned goods.

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gocart mozart  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:32:05am

re: #46 Anymouse 🌹

Speaking of Matt Walsh

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Targetpractice  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:32:26am

re: #166 Skip Intro

Trump budget to shut down all satellite monitoring of the planet.

arstechnica.com

Shorter article: Trump wanting to shut down science that is at odds with conservative orthodoxy.

Next up: Shutting down science labs where experiments contradicting creationism are conducted.

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:32:38am

re: #169 Big Beautiful Door

The next step is making them pee in a cup for drug testing to get their box of canned goods.

When the next crash and bailout happens, do the CEOs have to pee in a cup to get their money?

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:33:55am

re: #116 dangerman

i think graham needs to brush up on sinning.
he could start with the commandments
there are only 10 of them (or so)

Its all part of the apotheosis of Trump. Now, like Jesus, he is free of sin and therefore a worthy Messiah, but Trump is even better than Jesus, because he hates all the people Graham hates: lgbtq, minorities, muslims and the poor.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:35:22am

re: #173 Big Beautiful Door

Its all part of the apotheosis of Trump. Now, like Jesus, he is free of sin and therefore a worthy Messiah, but Trump is even better than Jesus, because he hates all the people Graham hates: lgbtq, minorities, muslims and the poor.

And if Jesus really did come back, Graham would promptly add him to the list of people he hates.

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Belafon  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:35:31am

re: #163 William Lewis

Suggest it to the woman running against him: dailykos.com.

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Belafon  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:37:02am

re: #174 Dr Lizardo

And if Jesus really did come back, Graham would promptly add him to the list of people he hates.

If Jesus destroyed his church, Graham would accuse him of being anti-Christian.

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JordanRules  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:38:55am
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Skip Intro  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:39:26am

re: #168 Eclectic Cyborg

So apparently asteroids are a Liberal conspiracy now?

Now that the billionaires have their tax cut they have the money to build shelters to protect themselves. The rest of us can just FOAD.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:39:32am

re: #128 Targetpractice

“… luxuries” such as gluten-free pasta.

Pretty sure that the words “luxury” and “gluten-free pasta” are never in the same sentence uttered by a foodie.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:40:35am

re: #173 Big Beautiful Door

Its all part of the apotheosis of Trump. Now, like Jesus, he is free of sin and therefore a worthy Messiah, but Trump is even better than Jesus, because he hates all the people Graham hates: lgbtq, minorities, muslims and the poor.

This is why Millenials are rejecting religion and millions of people are walking out of churches and they will never go back.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:41:16am

re: #133 Decatur Deb

Of course you could go to a parsonage of the proper sort to pick up your USDA allotment. On Sunday, after services.

But, only if the pastor saw you sitting in the pews the entire service

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JordanRules  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:41:37am

Thoughtful thread on SNAP…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:42:01am

re: #181 Colère Tueur de Lapin

But, only if the pastor saw you sitting in the pews the entire service

And you didn’t fall asleep…

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ObserverArt  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:43:28am

re: #174 Dr Lizardo

And if Jesus really did come back, Graham would promptly add him to the list of people he hates.

Guarandamnedteed!

They would turn him into someone that needs to be quieted and ostracized. Then they would trump up some kind of crime have him tried and found guilty of high crimes against America as a dangerous gang leader and then put to death with a drug cocktail.

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dangerman  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:43:30am

re: #161 Decatur Deb

Varies, but <10/meal.

per person / plate

i think it’s a dumb analogy
yes they are both food. and they are both delivered (presumably) in a box

the hilton and a shelter will both keep the rain off
a shelter is not “the hilton for the homeless”

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:44:37am

re: #172 Ace Rothstein

When the next crash and bailout happens, do the CEOs have to pee in a cup to get their money?

Bwahahahahaha! No, never in a million years.

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Unshaken Defiance  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:44:44am

So the same guys that hate single payer medical care want to have it for serving the poor food. Huh. Go figure. Those school lunches the Feds help pay for? Get ready for the same or worse on your plate 3x a day if you are on assistance.

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dangerman  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:45:30am

re: #161 Decatur Deb

Varies, but <10/meal.

im sorry i think i misunderstood
you were saying snap is < $10 a meal?
if so, my mistake

i still think blue apron is a bad analogy though

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:46:32am

re: #174 Dr Lizardo

And if Jesus really did come back, Graham would promptly add him to the list of people he hates.

He would have to be extremely vetted because, as a Palestinian, he’s a likely terrorist.

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danarchy  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:46:46am

re: #163 William Lewis

Oh, SNAP…

I’d almost be tempted to run against Sean Duffy on a platform of banning HFCS for human consumption.

Would you also ban cane and beet sugars? Because they break down in the body almost identically. So banning HFCS would just cause producers to switch to more expensive alternatives. Maybe that would lead them to use less, but I doubt it. Humans evolved to crave the sweet stuff.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:46:48am

re: #185 dangerman

the hilton and a shelter will both keep the rain off
a shelter is not “the hilton for the homeless”

Mar-a-Hobo.

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ObserverArt  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:46:59am

re: #178 Skip Intro

Now that the billionaires have their tax cut they have the money to build shelters to protect themselves. The rest of us can just FOAD.

That’s why they need that big powerful military. To help protect their banks, businesses and properties.

The middle and lower classes become their workers and protectors…all easily expended if need be.

Gotta save the Americans Trump Made Greater.

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:48:25am
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FormerDirtDart  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:48:44am
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whitebeach  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:48:58am

re: #184 ObserverArt

Guarandamnedteed!

They would turn him into someone that needs to be quieted and ostracized. Then they would trump up some kind of crime have him tried and found guilty of high crimes against America as a dangerous gang leader and then put to death with a drug cocktail.

Then, in 300 years or so, you’d have a bunch of crazies attending churches with big syringes above the altar.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:49:26am

re: #182 JordanRules

Thoughtful thread on SNAP…

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That’s how it’s done here. Well, OK not CASH - but the money is deposited in their bank accounts. Direct deposit.

Welfare recipients here do have to physically check in to the work office once every two weeks though.

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Skip Intro  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:50:36am

And tying in with Trump’s contempt for anything regarding climate, the liberal media is doing its part too.

TV Networks Did A Really Crap Job Reporting On Climate Change Last Year

The group Media Matters for America analyzed climate change coverage on major broadcasters’ nightly news programs and Sunday morning political shows ― including those on ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox News and PBS ― over the course of 2017. While a total of 260 minutes were devoted to climate change during the year, almost all of that coverage (79 percent) related to actions taken by the Trump administration rather than explanatory reports about the phenomenon or the way it affects humans or extreme weather.

Often networks used talking points furthered by climate change deniers (including President Donald Trump) without refuting such claims or clarifying that an overwhelming majority of scientists believe that climate change is happening and that humans are the primary cause. Trump has notably called global warming a hoax manufactured by the Chinese.

“Broadcast TV news neglected many critical climate change stories in 2017 while devoting most of its climate coverage to President Donald Trump,” Media Matters said in its report. “The networks undercovered or ignored the ways that climate change had real-life impacts on people, the economy, national security, and the year’s extreme weather events ― a major oversight in a year when weather disasters killed hundreds of Americans, displaced hundreds of thousands more, and cost the economy in excess of $300 billion.”

Trump should love the media. They did all they could to get him elected and now they’re in lockstep with him about one of the thousands of things he really hates.

huffingtonpost.com

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dangerman  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:52:07am

on this budget of trump’s

yes it does give us an idea about the WH thinking via mulvaney
i wonder if trump read it or had input

and i think it was already mostly complete before the 2 year deal congress just made

the important part is it has zero chance of going anywhere

yeah congress could try and latch on to some of it.
they could do that anyway

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ObserverArt  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:52:34am

re: #195 whitebeach

Then, in 300 years or so, you’d have a bunch of crazies attending churches with big syringes above the altar.

I was going to add that to my comment…so yeah, we are on the same page.

Or, as a now passed friend always said “he” would be shot down by the police so everyone would have little silver pistols around their necks.

All Stand and Pray to Our Lord and Savior Samuel Colt.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:53:11am

re: #188 dangerman

im sorry i think i misunderstood
you were saying snap is < $10 a meal?
if so, my mistake

i still think blue apron is a bad analogy though

Much, much less than. The html wouldn’t let me bold the “<<<”, and swallowed it. Price of being too cute.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:53:46am

re: #197 Skip Intro

And tying in with Trump’s contempt for anything regarding climate, the liberal media is doing its part too.

TV Networks Did A Really Crap Job Reporting On Climate Change Last Year

Trump should love the media. They did all they could to get him elected and now they’re in lockstep with him about one of the thousands of things he really hates.

huffingtonpost.com

I don’t believe in the debates there was a single question about climate change. The issue was simply ignored.

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plansbandc  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:55:02am
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dangerman  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:55:11am

re: #190 danarchy

Would you also ban cane and beet sugars? Because they break down in the body almost identically. So banning HFCS would just cause producers to switch to more expensive alternatives. Maybe that would lead them to use less, but I doubt it. Humans evolved to crave the sweet stuff.

the issue with hfcs is not what it is chemically or metabolically.

it’s how its used, misused, and overused in packaged and processed foods.
way too much and in many things where it just doesnt belong

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dangerman  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:57:56am

re: #202 plansbandc

This is the stuff of nightmares.

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some people have just too much time and /or money on their hands

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:58:14am

So how easy it will it be for the GOP to pass this roll of toilet paper they’re calling a budget? Can they ram it through or do they need 60 in the Senate?

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JordanRules  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:59:06am

NATO gotta go then! ///

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:59:36am

Click for full thread

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danarchy  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:00:48am

re: #205 Eclectic Cyborg

So how easy it will it be for the GOP to pass this roll of toilet paper they’re calling a budget? Can they ram it through or do they need 60 in the Senate?

This budget isn’t even going to get a good looking at in congress. They just passed a 2 year spending deal. If they did want to pass it they would need 60 in the senate.

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whitebeach  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:03:27am

re: #199 ObserverArt

I was going to add that to my comment…so yeah, we are on the same page.

Or, as a now passed friend always said “he” would be shot down by the police so everyone would have little silver pistols around their necks.

All Stand and Pray to Our Lord and Savior Samuel Colt.

I’m afraid that spacecraft has launched and is now beyond the orbit of Saturn. Too many people are carrying the real thing, not some token on a chain. It’s like, instead of some poor nutcase pulling a wheeled cross along a highway, there are 50 million of them infesting every two-lane road.

The other day I went to the pharmacy and in front of me on the prescription pick-up line was a strapped civilian. Looked like a Glock, although with the holster it was hard to tell. I’ve never been seriously uncomfortable in a CVS before, but I had to wonder what kind of drugs this lady was needing.

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William Lewis  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:04:09am

re: #175 Belafon

Suggest it to the woman running against him: dailykos.com.

Thanks for the pointer. I’ve signed up to volunteer.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:04:21am

re: #208 danarchy

This budget isn’t even going to get a good looking at in congress. They just passed a 2 year spending deal. If they did want to pass it they would need 60 in the senate.

Some of the toxic parts can be piecemealed if the Dems don’t hold fast.

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JordanRules  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:04:56am
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William Lewis  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:05:27am

re: #176 Belafon

If Jesus destroyed his church, Graham would accuse him of being anti-Christian.

He’d probably say it was because Jesus was Jewish… O_o

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William Lewis  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:08:05am

re: #179 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Pretty sure that the words “luxury” and “gluten-free pasta” are never in the same sentence uttered by a foodie.

I saw some corn based “gluten-free pasta” last Tuesday night. I don’t think I was ever so properly grateful for semolina before.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:08:12am

re: #202 plansbandc

He reminds me of the Nozin’ Around guy.

Nozin’ Around - The Young Ones

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Ace-o-aces  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:08:44am

Translation: “Hey, the ‘false flag’ thing is our bag. Don’t steal our signature bit!”

Seriously, it’s either a staggering lack of self-awareness or an unbelievable amount of hypocrisy!

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JordanRules  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:09:35am

Informative thread from the PA Gov.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:09:41am

re: #212 JordanRules

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But Trump lost his capacity before his appointment.

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Skip Intro  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:09:59am

re: #201 Big Beautiful Door

I don’t believe in the debates there was a single question about climate change. The issue was simply ignored.

The networks don’t want to piss off their advertisers. I think it’s as simple as that.

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William Lewis  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:10:04am

re: #182 JordanRules

Thoughtful thread on SNAP…

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Of course. But it won’t happen while the GOP has power as it requires you to believe that people are able to chose wisely for themselves at least some of the time. But then I also believe we should have a minimum income system that pays out once a year in cash as well.

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JordanRules  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:10:39am

re: #218 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Accurate!

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:10:48am
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FormerDirtDart  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:12:30am
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JordanRules  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:12:34am

re: #222 FormerDirtDart

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William Lewis  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:13:37am

re: #190 danarchy

Would you also ban cane and beet sugars? Because they break down in the body almost identically. So banning HFCS would just cause producers to switch to more expensive alternatives. Maybe that would lead them to use less, but I doubt it. Humans evolved to crave the sweet stuff.

I know people keep saying that but the cut over to HFCS from beet/cane coincides with the rise in obesity. If only one thing - the source of the “sugar” - has changed, why then has the result changed? I find this extremely difficult to believe given what we know about big biz and tobacco vs health and oil/co2/global warming.

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Ace-o-aces  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:14:07am
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dangerman  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:14:21am

re: #218 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

But Trump lost his capacity before his appointment.

he does do a lot of “peculating”

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William Lewis  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:14:49am

re: #184 ObserverArt

Guarandamnedteed!

They would turn him into someone that needs to be quieted and ostracized. Then they would trump up some kind of crime have him tried and found guilty of high crimes against America as a dangerous gang leader and then put to death with a drug cocktail.

Nah, he’d be shot in the street because he’s too dark skinned to be allowed to be arrested.

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Targetpractice  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:14:50am

re: #223 FormerDirtDart

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Hasn’t the GOP spent 5+ years obsessed about a “scandal” that boils down to the White House press office saying one thing while the Oval Office knew something entirely different?

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Jay C  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:15:19am

re: #216 Ace-o-aces

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Translation: “Hey, the ‘false flag’ thing is our bag. Don’t steal our signature bit!”

Seriously, it’s either a staggering lack of self-awareness or an unbelievable amount of hypocrisy!

And a quick search for “Vanessa Trump” news on Google turned up very little more than yesterday’s screaming headlines about her being “hospitalized”. But one update from (of all places) AL.com: the NYPD have identified that white powder mailed to them: it is cornstarch.

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HypnoToad  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:16:06am

re: #166 Skip Intro

Trump budget to shut down all satellite monitoring of the planet.

arstechnica.com

I spent several years of my life building, aligning and calibrating a major portion of the spectrometer on both OCO missions, plus a third back-up instrument that might be mounted on the ISS. Shortly after my retirement, I stood outside in the early AM, and watched OCO-2 head for orbit from Vandenberg.

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Belafon  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:16:20am

re: #225 William Lewis

I know people keep saying that but the cut over to HFCS from beet/cane coincides with the rise in obesity. If only one thing - the source of the “sugar” - has changed, why then has the result changed? I find this extremely difficult to believe given what we know about big biz and tobacco vs health and oil/co2/global warming.

We also started using a lot of antibiotics in young livestock to make them bigger. I’ve heard arguments that’s also what contributed to it. But, the cheaper HFCS has made this stuff easier to buy.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:16:21am

re: #216 Ace-o-aces

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Translation: “Hey, the ‘false flag’ thing is our bag. Don’t steal our signature bit!”

Seriously, it’s either a staggering lack of self-awareness or an unbelievable amount of hypocrisy!

From the replies:

They live in an inverted reality.

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JordanRules  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:16:54am
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danarchy  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:17:27am

re: #225 William Lewis

I know people keep saying that but the cut over to HFCS from beet/cane coincides with the rise in obesity. If only one thing - the source of the “sugar” - has changed, why then has the result changed? I find this extremely difficult to believe given what we know about big biz and tobacco vs health and oil/co2/global warming.

Sorry, there is just way too much science on this to deny it. Maybe the rise of HFCS happened to coincide with the rise in packaged and prepared foods. Correlation does not equal causation.

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whitebeach  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:18:41am

re: #231 HypnoToad

I spent several years of my life building, aligning and calibrating a major portion of the spectrometer on both OCO missions, plus a third back-up instrument that might be mounted on the ISS. Shortly after my retirement, I stood outside in the early AM, and watched OCO-2 head for orbit from Vandenberg.

Thanks, and sympathy. This horseshit must hurt.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:19:54am

Meanwhile, a Slovak court has definitively ruled that the outgoing (and soon to be incoming) Prime Minister here in the Czech Republic - Andrej Babiš - was in fact an agent for the StB (the Communist Czechoslovak version of the KGB) known as “Bureš”. Technically, he’s not allowed to be in the government……but the President here, Miloš Zeman, well, he don’t give two shits about the law or silly things like that.

And there’s really nothing anyone can do about it. Babiš heads the largest political party in the country.

As a friend of mine just sarcastically pointed out, “Great. We now have a completely illegitimate and unconstitutional government. And everyone cheers.”

*headdesk*

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:21:35am

WTF is wrong with these people?

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Decatur Deb  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:21:49am

re: #230 Jay C

And a quick search for “Vanessa Trump” news on Google turned up very little more than yesterday’s screaming headlines about her being “hospitalized”. But one update from (of all places) AL.com: the NYPD have identified that white powder mailed to them: it is cornstarch.

Still criminally stupid, or stupidly criminal.

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dangerman  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:25:21am

about to delve into directv hell - hopefully for the last time.

if i dont resurface, send out the dogs

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Eventual Carrion  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:25:50am

re: #184 ObserverArt

Guarandamnedteed!

They would turn him into someone that needs to be quieted and ostracized. Then they would trump up some kind of crime have him tried and found guilty of high crimes against America as a dangerous gang leader and then put to death with a drug cocktail.

Just like the story of the first time.

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ObserverArt  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:26:23am

re: #235 danarchy

Sorry, there is just way too much science on this to deny it. Maybe the rise of HFCS happened to coincide with the rise in packaged and prepared foods. Correlation does not equal causation.

I think another thing that happened about the same time was the big scare about fats. Everyone then cut fats in their snack and convenience foods but to make them taste decent they upped the sugars. Of course using a less expensive form of sweeteners allowed for better profits so HFCS’s were used.

Ever since we all started to worry about cholesterol from the wrong fats we have as a society gotten fatter.

And I am not saying certain forms of cholesterol from fats are not bad. I think the processed food industry answered the problems in the wrong ways due to profit over healthy quality.

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Eventual Carrion  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:27:54am

re: #193 Ace Rothstein

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I hear Obama wore a tan suit!

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ObserverArt  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:28:49am

re: #241 Eventual Carrion

Just like the story of the first time.

Of course!

Welcome to the human race. We run it over and over…and over and over…again and again. We do not learn a lot in the meantime. Just push the repeat button.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:29:33am
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Stanley Sea  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:30:51am

re: #207 FormerDirtDart

This is not ending for them.

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danarchy  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:30:52am

re: #225 William Lewis

I know people keep saying that but the cut over to HFCS from beet/cane coincides with the rise in obesity. If only one thing - the source of the “sugar” - has changed, why then has the result changed? I find this extremely difficult to believe given what we know about big biz and tobacco vs health and oil/co2/global warming.

Also to say only one thing has changed is an assertion I am pretty sure you can’t support.
Changes have been innumerbale not the least of which is a transition from an economy based largely on manual labor to an economy based largely on people sitting in chairs 8+ hours a day.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:31:14am

re: #245 FormerDirtDart

My first thought was that they had it coming, working for the madman Assad, but then I realized that our troops are now fighting for a madman too.

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dangerman  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:37:23am

re: #240 dangerman

about to delve into directv hell - hopefully for the last time.

if i dont resurface, send out the dogs

like this dog:

Hutchinson, KS dog not allowed to run for governor

While there is nothing specifically written that says a dog cannot run to lead the state, the secretary state’s office says man’s best friend is not capable of serving the responsibilities required of the governor.

dont they have to wait till he wins (and fails at the job) to make that statement?

i mean, look at DC right now

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nines09  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:38:43am

Good day all.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:39:50am

Ongoing Jacksonville story
Kicker, the dead body was in the car when it was stolen yesterday.

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danarchy  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:42:09am

re: #251 FormerDirtDart

Ongoing Jacksonville story
Kicker, the dead body was in the car when it was stolen yesterday.

[Embedded content]

Sounds like the beginning of a Law&Order episode…

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Ace-o-aces  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:47:32am

Sean’s actual beef? He thinks the painting contains hidden images of sperm. Seriously.

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darthstar  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:48:44am
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Targetpractice  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:49:22am

re: #246 Stanley Sea

This is not ending for them.

Nor should it. But in light of these revelations, I think the DNC’s angle should change. Emphasize the danger that Porter presented to our national security by being at risk of blackmail. If Republicans respond by arguing that there’s no proof he was ever blackmailed, bring up all the arguments they made 2015-2016 about how even if Hillary’s emails hadn’t been hacked, the fact that she had a secret server left her open to blackmail by foreign agents and thus she couldn’t be trusted with classified material.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:49:31am

re: #252 danarchy

Sounds like the beginning of a Law&Order episode…

Pretty sure the remains were being moved to a funeral home when the driver stopped at a convenience store to grab something, and left the vehicle running, for the a/c, we hit around 81 yesterday.

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plansbandc  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:50:10am

Hannity’s opinions are so breathtakingly stupid, just reading anything he has to say kills IQ points.

If you guys keep posting that shit, I may end up voting Republican.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:50:26am
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jaunte  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:53:48am

re: #253 Ace-o-aces

We’re going to need a heat map.

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JordanRules  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:53:55am
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makeitstop  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:54:20am

Thread.

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JordanRules  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:54:49am

So Secret Sperm is not already a band name??

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JordanRules  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:55:41am
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lawhawk  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:55:49am

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area.

The infrastructure scam Trump released yesterday (along with his budget) fell to the sound of a dull thud.

Infrastructure experts and people who follow this stuff panned it exactly as I’ve been saying for weeks - that it’s vaporware. Others have pointed out that it actually cuts federal spending and is based on hopes that the private sector and states/localities will make up the balance - $1.3 trillion over 10 years.

The reason we’re in this mess is that the states/localities don’t have that kind of money, and private entities aren’t going to be spending their money either. They would much rather get something for nothing and then charge the public for it, and that’s part of what this scam is set to do. It’s Trump looking to sell off assets to low bidder who can then turn around and gouge consumers.

It’s a recipe for disaster, and it doesn’t even pass the smell test. Yet media outlets continue to spin this as a $1.5 trillion plan. It barely qualifies as a $200 billion plan over 10 years, which is lower level of funding than under current law.

And all that is quickly overshadowed by the fact that Trump’s budget is draconian in gutting Medicaid, health coverage, and the safety net. In fact, Trump’s looking to eviscerate SNAP and demand that half of the program be devoted to the feds shipping nonperishables to SNAP recipients instead of letting those folks have the choice of how to spend the money.

SNAP is one of the most cost effective programs out there - where each dollar of the program generates about $1.60 of economic activity.* [edited - this is actually understating the economic activity - according to a study, it’s closer to $1.84]

So of course Trump and his right wing cabal of cronies think this should be changed.

Everything Trump’s doing is about shredding the function of the federal government. His supporters are fine with that, even though they don’t understand that they’re losing on the deal. They think this will somehow benefit them.

It doesn’t. It never does. It benefits millionaires who’ll see lower tax bills and bigger bank accounts, while everyone else gets the burdens. This is the ultimate expression of trickle down, where the GOP decides that the tax cuts that don’t generate the revenues they claim it would have to be offset by deep cuts to the discretionary budget.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:56:46am

Original thread behind the clicky

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:57:43am
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lawhawk  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:00:51am

re: #266 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Odds are that’s a bot.

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makeitstop  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:01:45am

Holy fucking fuck.

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JordanRules  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:02:06am
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jaunte  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:03:43am

Come for the weird headline, stay for the “killing whitey” racial agitation.

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lawhawk  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:04:16am
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JordanRules  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:04:25am
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Dr Lizardo  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:04:26am

re: #263 JordanRules

What’s in Sean’s e-cigarette? That’s what I’d like to know……I don’t think it’s just your regular e-juice.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:04:35am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:05:44am

re: #267 lawhawk

Odds are that’s a bot.

It’s definitely a propaganda account, but the userid doesn’t look like one a bot network operator would have been able to grab.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:06:25am

re: #273 Dr Lizardo

What’s in Sean’s e-cigarette? That’s what I’d like to know……I don’t think it’s just your regular e-juice.

PCP? A THC vape would chill him out. He could really use one.

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lawhawk  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:06:43am

re: #268 makeitstop

Yeah, Wray just indicated not only that the US is continuing to be under foreign attack, but that Trump should be recusing himself because he’s under investigation.

This is everything Putin ever could have hoped for when he and his folks hooked up with Trump’s idiot campaign and compromised all of them. They’re still compromised, and still giving Russia exactly what it wants.

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wrenchwench  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:07:02am

re: #260 JordanRules

[These proclamations become a mystery to briefly contemplate while speeding past.]

If you think Jerry Garcia and peyote are weird, just keep speeding past…Arizona doesn’t need more of you…

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:07:43am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:07:51am

re: #272 JordanRules

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makeitstop  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:09:33am

re: #277 lawhawk

Yeah, Wray just indicated not only that the US is continuing to be under foreign attack, but that Trump should be recusing himself because he’s under investigation.

This is everything Putin ever could have hoped for when he and his folks hooked up with Trump’s idiot campaign and compromised all of them. They’re still compromised, and still giving Russia exactly what it wants.

And since they’re all compromised, we’re stuck right where we are - with Trump cultists likely forwarding state secrets to Putin on the regular.

How the fuck do we get out of this?

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ckkatz  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:09:34am

re: #101 Joe Bacon 🌹

Don’t forget the ketchup! 😉

Yup, that time the Reagan administration tried to count ketchup as a vegetable.

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Interesting Times  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:10:27am

Indeed:

Facebook Post

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Belafon  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:11:17am

re: #281 makeitstop

And since they’re all compromised, we’re stuck right where we are - with Trump cultists likely forwarding state secrets to Putin on the regular.

How the fuck do we get out of this?

You know the answer: Elections.

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Belafon  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:11:47am

Specifically, we have to put people in charge that give a shit.

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dangerman  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:13:23am

this is incredible!!!!

i am back from directv hell in like record time

my mom got switched from uverse (with which she was very happy) to directv last month - i think bait and switched (she’s 90)

nevertheless — they could never make it work. constantly dropped signal, and other problems. we spent 3 weeks trying to make it work.
more than 10 phone calls sometimes being transferred and speaking to 6 or 8 people

saturday, after a 6 hour service call with no results the box stopped working altogether - some code that it’s not authorized.

we spent three days on the phone trying to get it authorized. - no joy.

i finally called at&t loyalty. i had a sheaf of notes.
i said put back uverse the way it was a month ago, take this crap out.

they did.
NO disconnect or early termination fees
promo rates on the uverse for a year
no installation fees
a new $200 gift card and they said keep the $200 gift card from the directv

at&t retention department. nice, smart people.

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Ace-o-aces  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:13:54am

re: #263 JordanRules

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makeitstop  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:17:04am

re: #284 Belafon

You know the answer: Elections.

I know. It’s just hard to imagine the damage that will be done between now and then.

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JordanRules  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:18:30am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:18:36am
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lawhawk  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:20:08am

Israeli police recommend indicting Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in two bribery cases.

I’d say that this is breaking, but it’s been suspected he’d get indicted any number of times over the past few months.

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dangerman  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:20:18am

re: #282 ckkatz

Yup, that time the Reagan administration tried to count ketchup as a vegetable.

ketchup - now tie this to the HFCS discussion above

why is hfcs the 3rd and corn syrup the 5th ingredient in ketchup er catsup?

you can make wonderful stuff with no sugar and way more flavor

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plansbandc  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:22:15am

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Ace-o-aces  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:24:06am

There is just SO much to unpack in this tweet:

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danarchy  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:24:18am

re: #292 dangerman

ketchup - now tie this to the HFCS discussion above

why is hfcs the 3rd and corn syrup the 5th ingredient in ketchup er catsup?

you can make wonderful stuff with no added sugar and way more flavor

Fixed it for you. Tomatoes have plenty of sugar in em.

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Targetpractice  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:24:49am

re: #291 lawhawk

Israeli police recommend indicting Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in two bribery cases.

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I’d say that this is breaking, but it’s been suspected he’d get indicted any number of times over the past few months.

So, how long before a new Israeli “national security crisis” that requires immediately military intervention?

//

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wrenchwench  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:25:31am

re: #285 Belafon

Specifically, we have to put people in charge that give a shit.

Give a shit, yes. Take no shit, also yes.

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Belafon  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:25:51am

re: #288 makeitstop

I know. It’s just hard to imagine the damage that will be done between now and then.

All we can do is document them and fix them. We can’t undo the election, even if it were proven that voting machines were manipulated. We just make sure we win in November, support Democrats during the investigations the next couple of years, win in 2020, and really start fixing things.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:27:09am

re: #294 Ace-o-aces

There is just SO much to unpack in this tweet:

[Embedded content]

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lawhawk  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:27:40am

re: #296 Targetpractice

So, how long before a new Israeli “national security crisis” that requires immediately military intervention?

//

Well, we get what we had earlier this week - complete with an Israeli F-16 crashing after a mission over Syria.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:28:35am
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wrenchwench  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:30:16am

re: #292 dangerman

ketchup - now tie this to the HFCS discussion above

why is hfcs the 3rd and corn syrup the 5th ingredient in ketchup er catsup?

you can make wonderful stuff with no sugar and way more flavor

Since the law came that says you have to list what’s in there, in descending order of volume, sugar has developed many names, each of which can be listed separately. Sucrose, glucose, HFCS, corn syrup, and on and on. If all the things that are metabolized like sugar were listed as one item, it would come in first way more often on the labels.

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dangerman  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:31:02am

re: #295 danarchy

Fixed it for you. Tomatoes have plenty of sugar in em.

yeah yeah ok. in the context of the discussion i thought it was clear.

im still high and giddy from that directv coup

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:31:31am

re: #294 Ace-o-aces

There is just SO much to unpack in this tweet:

[Embedded content]

Is Omarosa standing next to Trump his very self or a cardboard cutout?

Look at their feet. If it really IS Trump & not a piece of cardboard, Trump has the tiniest feet ever seen on a man. You have to wonder how they can even support his bloated body.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:32:13am

re: #238 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

[Embedded content]

WTF is wrong with these people?

DARVO!!

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ObserverArt  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:32:52am

re: #253 Ace-o-aces

[Embedded content]

Sean’s actual beef? He thinks the painting contains hidden images of sperm. Seriously.

Does Hannity ever tell the truth…ever?

I believe he is comparing Smithsonian Portrait Gallery Presidential Images with Official White House Portraits. The images in the Smithsonian gallery are more casual and relaxed…arty if you want.

The White House portraits are very classic and formal.

Hannity is being his usual untruthful and misdirecting self, all to dog on Obama. Go figure.

I did a quick comparison of some other examples. If anyone wants to tweet this image to shut the Fox idiots and Hannity up feel free.

Comparisons of Smithsonian Presidential Portraits to Official White House Presidential Portraits
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Targetpractice  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:33:53am

You can already hear the phone call:

“Donald, my friend, I need your help. Start another Middle East war immediately. Air strikes on Iran, deploying troops against Assad, blowing up some in Yemen, I don’t care. Just do it quick!”

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dangerman  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:34:07am

re: #299 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Only vile creatures will work for, or support, a vile President. Your avi is a picture of you with a cardboard cutout of that vile President, so you should understand.

you support a pig, you’re a pig. <<<<<<<<———————- see that period? full fucking stop

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JordanRules  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:34:15am

Thread following all the stupidness…

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:34:35am

re: #252 danarchy

Sounds like the beginning of a Law&Order episode…

It will be!

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Kilroy was here  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:35:20am

Help me midterm election - you’re my only hope.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:35:56am
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FormerDirtDart  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:36:00am
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makeitstop  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:36:22am

re: #304 The Vicious Babushka

Is Omarosa standing next to Trump his very self or a cardboard cutout?

Look at their feet. If it really IS Trump & not a piece of cardboard, Trump has the tiniest feet ever seen on a man. You have to wonder how they can even support his bloated body.

Might be why he’s afraid of stairs.

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dangerman  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:36:27am

re: #302 wrenchwench

Since the law came that says you have to list what’s in there, in descending order of volume, sugar has developed many names, each of which can be listed separately. Sucrose, glucose, HFCS, corn syrup, and on and on. If all the things that are metabolized like sugar were listed as one item, it would come in first way more often on the labels.

exactly

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darthstar  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:38:51am
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JordanRules  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:39:04am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:41:09am
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Belafon  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:41:14am

re: #317 JordanRules

I don’t run around with a lot of people, but everyone I’ve talked to is excited to see it. And I will no longer be your friend if you aren’t.

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dangerman  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:41:38am

re: #316 darthstar

Kansas Scrambles To Change Rules After 6 Teens Enter Governor’s Race

re: #249 dangerman

this dog tried too
Hutchinson, KS dog not allowed to run for governor

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darthstar  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:41:41am
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JordanRules  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:42:51am

re: #319 Belafon

Same, same, same!!!

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Decatur Deb  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:43:00am

re: #294 Ace-o-aces

There is just SO much to unpack in this tweet:

[Embedded content]

I could learn to like her yet.

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Belafon  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:43:59am

re: #322 JordanRules

Same, same, same!!!

And just to be clear, the “you” was royal, not you personally.

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darthstar  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:44:52am

Steve Mnuchin must be hung like a fucking horse.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:45:57am

Antipodal Lizards will be interested:Professor gives student 0 for listing Australia as a country

MANCHESTER, NH (WMUR/Buzzfeed/CNN) - An adjunct professor at Southern New Hampshire University has been replaced after giving a student a failing grade because she classified Australia as a country for an assignment.

It all began with student Ashley Arnold, who shared her ordeal with the online site, Buzzfeed. The Idaho resident was completing her sociology degree online, tasked with an assignment to compare a foreign country with the U.S.

She chose Australia.

When she got her grade back, it was a zero. The professor argued Australia was not a real country, but a continent.

Australia is a country, but it’s also a continent. But why is it both? Its reasoning can be a head-scratcher.

Australia, as a continent, includes Tasmania, New Guinea, Seram, Timor and the Commonwealth of Australia. Why? Because they all share the same tectonic plates.

What bothers me about this story is that so many people apparently have trouble understanding the concept of Australia being both a continent and a country. The Idiocracy is truly here.

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JordanRules  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:46:08am

re: #324 Belafon

Ha! Yes, understood.

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darthstar  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:46:16am

re: #325 darthstar

Steve Mnuchin must be hung like a fucking horse.

[Embedded content]

Click through to see the full pic. You can’t tell if she’s wearing anything below the waist - except for her heels.

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danarchy  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:48:28am

re: #308 dangerman

you support a pig, you’re a pig. <<<<<<<<———————- see that period? full fucking stop

Hey now, lets not tar all pigs with the same brush:

MOST ADORABLE Mini Pig Videos - Cute Micro Pig 2017

Also, pigs bring us bacon, I support bacon.

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jaunte  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:49:13am

re: #325 darthstar

He’s got a big, bulging wallet.

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jaunte  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:50:31am
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JordanRules  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:53:50am

re: #329 danarchy

I’d like to direct my upding to the bacon portion of the comment. TYSVM

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dangerman  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:55:21am

re: #329 danarchy

Hey now, lets not tar all pigs with the same brush:

[Embedded content]

Also, pigs bring us bacon, I support bacon.

you know we didnt have these problems before the internet - posting cute pix to take down an argument in nanoseconds

we all knew “pig” was metaphorical

///

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ObserverArt  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:56:02am

re: #314 makeitstop

Might be why he’s afraid of stairs.

Little Hands.

Little Feet.

Little Brain.

Little Heart.

All make for one Big Orange Dick of a President.

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gocart mozart  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:56:42am
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JordanRules  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:56:43am

I enjoyed this quick read. I’ve been looking at a lot of really old menus lately. It’s fascinating.
I also love things called jubilees.

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Jay C  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:57:21am

re: #294 Ace-o-aces

There is just SO much to unpack in this tweet:

[Embedded content]

Gotta be a (notably Photoshopped) cutout: just look at the size of those hands!!

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ObserverArt  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:57:56am

re: #319 Belafon

I don’t run around with a lot of people, but everyone I’ve talked to is excited to see it. And I will no longer be your friend if you aren’t.

So, you’re going to be like that.

I guess I will not be your friend.

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Belafon  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:58:52am

re: #338 ObserverArt

So, you’re going to be like that.

I guess I will not be your friend.

I gotta draw the line somewhere.

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wrenchwench  Feb 13, 2018 • 11:00:58am

re: #329 danarchy

[…]

Also, pigs bring us bacon, I support bacon.

No volunteers in that army. They’ve been drafted.

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Targetpractice  Feb 13, 2018 • 11:01:46am

re: #331 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Of course they don’t see as a problem because they won. Just like they think working with foreign agents to sabotage your political opponent is “opposition research.”

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jaunte  Feb 13, 2018 • 11:04:48am

“…The Trump administration is, needless to say, a target-rich environment. That can be a mixed blessing. Former Trump campaign CEO and senior adviser Steve Bannon recently told Bloomberg’s Michael Lewis: “The Democrats don’t matter. The real opposition is the media. And the way to deal with them is to flood the zone with shit.”

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Belafon  Feb 13, 2018 • 11:06:22am

re: #342 jaunte

Keep thinking that, Steve. Trump’s been spewing shit since he started, and while he hasn’t stopped, it’s been killing Republicans in the special elections since.

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makeitstop  Feb 13, 2018 • 11:10:22am
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wrenchwench  Feb 13, 2018 • 11:13:25am

re: #344 makeitstop

[Embedded content]

That’s the counterpoint to a not very old German joke about one of their politicians getting stuck on an escalator in a power outage.

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jaunte  Feb 13, 2018 • 11:14:10am
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jaunte  Feb 13, 2018 • 11:14:28am
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wrenchwench  Feb 13, 2018 • 11:16:35am

re: #347 jaunte

[Embedded content]

They could tie it in with Infrastructure Week: Guardrails for everyone!

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ObserverArt  Feb 13, 2018 • 11:16:49am

re: #339 Belafon

I gotta draw the line somewhere.

So limiting. How do you know what you may be missing if you put up arbitrary limits on friendships. And all over make believe movies!

What is this world coming to? ; )

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ckkatz  Feb 13, 2018 • 11:17:43am

re: #345 wrenchwench

That’s the counterpoint to a not very old German joke about one of their politicians getting stuck on an escalator in a power outage.

I assume not the one about how the folks who saw the elevator out, immediately stopped and staired. :)

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Targetpractice  Feb 13, 2018 • 11:18:52am

re: #347 jaunte

[Embedded content]

And you can probably guess that those persons/editorialists who bothered to mention the Sheriff’s observation chose to portray such in a negative light, up to suggesting that he was “on the take” for the cartels.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 13, 2018 • 11:19:35am

re: #347 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Sheriff Carrillo, eh? You know those Mexicans are all allowed to lie for each other. They call that “taqueria”.

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KGxvi  Feb 13, 2018 • 11:20:45am

re: #352 Decatur Deb

Sheriff Carrillo, eh? You know those Mexicans are all allowed to lie for each other. They call that “taqueria”.

I regret only that I have but one upding to upding

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MsJ  Feb 13, 2018 • 11:20:54am

re: #352 Decatur Deb

Sheriff Carrillo, eh? You know those Mexicans are all allowed to lie for each other. They call that “taqueria”.

Is that like Sharia for Mexicans?

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Belafon  Feb 13, 2018 • 11:21:16am

This is pretty cool. A DK poster who is on SS donated to Rachel Crooks campaign in Ohio. Crooks is one of the people accusing Trump of sexual harassment and is running for a state congressional district. After donating, Crooks called the woman and personally thanked her for the donation.

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wrenchwench  Feb 13, 2018 • 11:21:20am

re: #352 Decatur Deb

Sheriff Carrillo, eh? You know those Mexicans are all allowed to lie for each other. They call that “taqueria”.

Happy taqueria Tuesday.

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Targetpractice  Feb 13, 2018 • 11:21:47am
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jaunte  Feb 13, 2018 • 11:21:53am

Taquerias on every corner.

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KGxvi  Feb 13, 2018 • 11:22:15am

re: #342 jaunte

“The Democrats don’t matter. The real opposition is the media. And the way to deal with them is to flood the zone with shit.”

This would work if the media was still playing it straight. But since they’ve basically gone to “White House lies about [issue of the day]”, I’m not entirely sure that’s going to work anymore.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 13, 2018 • 11:22:38am

re: #356 wrenchwench

Happy taqueria Tuesday.

We were delighted when one opened in our town. It sucks. Another stereotype destroyed.

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jaunte  Feb 13, 2018 • 11:23:32am

re: #359 KGxvi

Must remember that Bannon is the political genius that has been dumped from the White House, Breitbart, and the Mercer’s pocket.

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wrenchwench  Feb 13, 2018 • 11:24:17am

re: #360 Decatur Deb

We were delighted when one opened in our town. It sucks. Another stereotype destroyed.

There will be more, as soon as Trump is gone, if not sooner.

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Targetpractice  Feb 13, 2018 • 11:26:53am
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Kragar  Feb 13, 2018 • 11:26:59am
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ckkatz  Feb 13, 2018 • 11:28:48am

re: #364 Kragar

I guess that the next step is soylent green.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 13, 2018 • 11:29:09am
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wrenchwench  Feb 13, 2018 • 11:31:50am

re: #366 Backwoods_Sleuth

10:36 AM - Feb 13, 2012]

6 years to the day. That’s good tweet-plucking.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 13, 2018 • 11:31:57am
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ckkatz  Feb 13, 2018 • 11:34:13am

I always translated this “Where do I go?”, but my Spanish is badly out of practice.

Linda Ronstadt - Adonde Voy

“The dawn sees me running
Under the sky that’s beginning to color
Don’t let the sun name me
To the Immigration Force”

lyrics:
lyricstranslate.com

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Stanley Sea  Feb 13, 2018 • 11:34:40am

re: #336 JordanRules

I enjoyed this quick read. I’ve been looking at a lot of really old menus lately. It’s fascinating.
I also love things called jubilees.

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Extravagant!

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BlueSpotinAL  Feb 13, 2018 • 11:34:55am

Then there was this other Onion article:
Woman A Leading Authority On What Shouldn’t Be In Poor People’s Grocery Carts

local.theonion.com

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jaunte  Feb 13, 2018 • 11:35:06am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 13, 2018 • 11:36:30am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 13, 2018 • 11:37:48am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 13, 2018 • 11:40:15am
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Targetpractice  Feb 13, 2018 • 11:40:29am

re: #374 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 13, 2018 • 11:41:14am

re: #325 darthstar

Steve Mnuchin must be hung like a fucking horse.

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The only thing in Mnuchin’s pants that Louise cares about is his wallet.

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Belafon  Feb 13, 2018 • 11:42:27am

re: #375 Backwoods_Sleuth

Is there some strange force we are unaware of that prevents women from becoming president? Weird, when I voted I didn’t see a single sign saying “No women” or “men only”. They must have taken them down that day for maintenance

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 13, 2018 • 11:44:33am

re: #375 Backwoods_Sleuth

Brad’s a dumbass with a large ego.

Brad Everhart
@U2Brad
An island of reason and logic in an ocean of insanity and blind faith

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Kragar  Feb 13, 2018 • 11:45:39am
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JordanRules  Feb 13, 2018 • 11:49:06am

I get this channel thru their app on my Amazon Fire Stick. Not sure if it’s on any cable or satellite packages.

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JordanRules  Feb 13, 2018 • 11:51:44am

re: #380 Kragar

Exactly. Their logistics suck and that was the testing ground for these boxes of bullshit.

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Eventual Carrion  Feb 13, 2018 • 11:52:09am

re: #350 ckkatz

I assume not the one about how the folks who saw the elevator out, immediately stopped and staired. :)

Just a flight of fancy, but no quick steps to action.

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danarchy  Feb 13, 2018 • 11:52:29am

re: #381 JordanRules

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I get this channel thru their app on my Amazon Fire Stick. Not sure if it’s on any cable or satellite packages.

I get it on FIOS

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 13, 2018 • 11:52:59am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 13, 2018 • 12:07:59pm

re: #253 Ace-o-aces

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Sean’s actual beef? He thinks the painting contains hidden images of sperm. Seriously.

That boy has watched Eraserhead too many times!

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BlueSpotinAL  Feb 13, 2018 • 12:11:36pm

re: #377 The Vicious Babushka

The only thing in Mnuchin’s pants that Louise cares about is his wallet.

Is that a roll of benjamins, or are you… oh, that is a roll of benjamins.

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Sea Mexican!  Feb 13, 2018 • 12:20:33pm

re: #41 goddamnedfrank

Interesting

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Like I needed another reason to dislike Oracle …

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dangerman  Feb 13, 2018 • 12:30:22pm

re: #368 Backwoods_Sleuth

Cameras were in the room with Trump for over 50 minutes where he talked about trade with lawmakers. At the end of the pool spray @CeciliaVega asked him repeatedly if he believes Rob Porter’s ex-wives. No response.

im the presidnet
you’re a woman

i can pretend you dont exist

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Eventual Carrion  Feb 13, 2018 • 12:54:08pm

re: #374 Backwoods_Sleuth

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A witch hunt?


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