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I think this is the 3rd such video I have seen the msm amplify today.
“The only way that I can know for sure that this gun will never hurt anyone is if it doesn’t exist.”
Connecticut resident Amanda Meyer is the latest gun owner to destroy her weapon in support of the “one less gun” movement in the wake of the deadly school shooting in Florida. pic.twitter.com/o49ePCKq5q— ABC News (@ABC) February 20, 2018
@realDonaldTrump Facts are stubborn. I released my back taxes on 1/24/12. No excuse for hiding your back taxes. https://t.co/P9vRhmEcF3
— Mitt Romney (@MittRomney) February 28, 2016
You are so right, Mitt. There is no excuse for Trump not releasing his tax returns.
So what do you plan to do about it? https://t.co/hurOwkjiWl— Caroline O. (@RVAwonk) February 20, 2018
It’s not like I ever liked you but, for fuck’s sake, have some self-respect you spineless loser
— Stephen Villa (@hiqualityperson) February 20, 2018
“The Faith of Donald Trump,” a book just out by David Brody and Scott Lamb, is a very interesting read. Enjoy!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 20, 2018
An exerpt:
“Dear Penthouse Forums,
You can call me Faith. I was just a naive young co-ed when I visited New York for the first time, but you’ll never guess who invited me up to his bedroom when his wife was away with his baby son!” https://t.co/QfPA3lhUf2— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) February 20, 2018
Really, who is surprised that Willard has supplicated himself before Trump’s feet? We all remember how he talked big right up until he thought he might actually get the SecState job, then he willingly humiliated himself just to be passed over for an Exxon exec.
Much like the #NeverTrump crowd, he’ll rail against Trump when it’s convenient, go back to his “Only the GOP can save America” instincts when it isn’t.
Seeing Republicans grovel before the Orange Menace is one of the few entertainments to be had in this Trump/GOP catastrophe.
Ole Mitt certainly has a high level of one of the Republican’s prized virtues. Massive, unabashed hypocrisy.
There is a website called https://t.co/W3oGk7I9zc, and you have to be straight to use it: pic.twitter.com/hZGiZihHYE
— Tim Mak (@timkmak) February 17, 2018
You’ll be shocked (shocked!) to know the guy in this picture is a convicted child molester: https://t.co/hdtygCm26x#MAGAandsuch https://t.co/vU7EEbbAfd
— T. Greg Doucette (@greg_doucette) February 20, 2018
God I hate David Brooks
This is…almost exactly why we have backslid on gun control and gun violence: this backwards-ass demand that we cede the conversation about how to fix a problem to the very people who don’t see a problem to begin with.
— Citizen K stands for #⃣GunReformNow (@Citizen_Kryptik) February 20, 2018
re: #3 JordanRules
I think this is the 3rd such video I have seen the msm amplify today.
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I am pleasantly surprised and impressed. A movement like this might actually make a difference - America’s religion of human sacrifice will not be stopped by government action alone. It will take both that and a culture of public shaming, making this idea of gun madness socially unacceptable, just as smoking is. It is in this sort of thing that social media might be used for good.
re: #9 plansbandc
Ole Mitt certainly has a high level of one of the Republican’s prized virtues. Massive, unabashed hypocrisy.
Romney also has another important GOPer skill: cringing and scraping in the Presence of the Orange Menace.
Like all authoritarians, Romney is happiest when he is personally dictating how someone else should live their life, down to the last details. The second best pleasure for authoritarians is sucking up to someone else that perceived to be in a superior position, mainly in the hopes that this authority figure will order “those people” to live exactly how the authoritarian groveler thinks they should be forced to live.
It’s the ‘grown up’ version of grade-school bullies accumulating a pack of chickenshit hangers-on.
re: #11 Citizen K
God I hate David Brooks
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First off, these kids are from a red state, secondly when have these red state gun owners ever shown respect? Was it when I’ve seen countless right wing gun memes question my manhood? When told I’m like a Nazi because I want sensible gun laws?
Duane Reade is apparently like a Walgreens.
Manafort & Gang somehow spent $25,000 at Duane reade?!? https://t.co/TF2hIFmAce pic.twitter.com/XPTcJPIopa
— Ranjan (@ranjanxroy) February 20, 2018
re: #11 Citizen K
David Brooks can go fuck himself. Gun nuts are called ‘gun nuts’ by sensible people because they are fucking gun nuts. It really is that simple. Candidates running for office have to be more restrained in their language because GOP-biased double standards in the media, but that doesn’t change the fact that gun nuts are gun nuts.
Anyone whose ideas on what to do about school shootings involve putting more guns in schools is fucking nuts.
re: #14 HappyWarrior
What amazes me about “gun culture” is how often its participants indulge in the fantasy of “I could take you out, I’m dangerous” and “I’m just waiting for X to fuck up so I can start shooting at those people” but also want to be viewed as serious.
I mean, all of their competence fantasies start with the idea that everyone else is stupid, weak, and about to snap at any moment. Their understanding of crime is that it’s strangers and easily-detectable weird people, not the guy next door.
Whether or not they can hit a target is non sequitur when they have no self-awareness, no situational awareness, and no interest in how crime actual goes down.
#MisterRogers50 A look back at how it all began @PittsburghPG https://t.co/YNhbtM0RiC
— Fred Rogers Center (@FredRogersCtr) February 19, 2018
Everyone’s favorite neighbor, Fred Rogers, moved into the neighborhood 50 years ago, educating and entertaining generations of American children. https://t.co/mpBnO0cYIj
— Getty Images (@GettyImages) February 19, 2018
Thanks Mister Rogers for teaching us about curiosity, imagination, respect, and love. #MisterRogers50 pic.twitter.com/gCiVDU5tcT
— PBS Digital Studios (@PBSDS) February 19, 2018
Mister Rogers would narrate himself feeding the fish each episode with “I’m feeding the fish” because of a letter he received from a young blind girl who was worried the fish were hungry. Love you, Mister Rogers. https://t.co/YXacyFDXKo
— christine teigen (@chrissyteigen) February 20, 2018
When Apollo astronaut Al Worden wanted to engage kids, his first call was to Mr. Rogers Neighborhood, which premiered 50 years ago today. https://t.co/T2eJu8bN6n
— Tony Rice (@rtphokie) February 19, 2018
50 years ago today, “Mister Rogers’ Neighborhood” made its debut nationwide. François Clemmons, who played Officer Clemmons — making him the first African American actor to have a recurring role on a children’s TV show — remembered his extraordinary friendship with Fred Rogers. pic.twitter.com/XGNx1zwNcy
— StoryCorps (@StoryCorps) February 19, 2018
OK why @StoryCorps wants me crying 😢 at work I do not know but this “feet washing” memory is so beautiful and touching. Again thank you Mr. Rogers for 50 years. @WKAR @PBS https://t.co/qA8fDY4v0H
— Robin Melay Pizzo (@Everywoman98) February 19, 2018
An important part of my childhood.
Well that was interesting.
@holycrossenergy Widespread power outage in Gypsum. Send word.
— Charlie Vogel, aka His Teleness the Charlie Lama (@teleskiguy) February 20, 2018
The power was out for about 90 minutes. Good thing I have over a dozen candles. I read some Edward Abbey by candlelight.
re: #11 Citizen K
God I hate David Brooks
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“White males have done something terrible again, Mr Baquet. Yes, we’ll get to work right away on making them feel better. David Brooks is usually reliable. No sir, we can’t have their feelings hurt in any way, I understand, sir.”
re: #10 Stanley Sea
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-Roy Moore, credibly accused child molester backed 100% by Trump and the GOP after the allegations came to light.
-Ronald Williams II, the Trump voter fraud commission guy arrested for possession of child pornography.
-Ralph Shortey, Oklahoma State Senator and Trump campaign coordinator convicted of child sex trafficking.
Now this Trump dating website asshole. That’s a disconcerting number of data points tying Trump to accused or convicted pedophiles. It’s even more alarming when you put it into the context of the Pizzagate hoax controversy. It almost seems like conservative conspiracy theorists are really just projecting their own dirty associations onto Democrats.
The same people that said 13 and 14 year olds were perfectly mature enough to date Roy Moore are now saying 17 and 18 year olds are too immature to have opinions on gun control.
— Nicole (@NicoleK8686) February 19, 2018
re: #21 goddamnedfrank
There is a website called https://t.co/W3oGk7I9zc, and you have to be straight to use it: pic.twitter.com/hZGiZihHYE
— Tim Mak (@timkmak) February 17, 2018
You’ll be shocked (shocked!) to know the guy in this picture is a convicted child molester: https://t.co/hdtygCm26x#MAGAandsuch https://t.co/vU7EEbbAfd
— T. Greg Doucette (@greg_doucette) February 20, 2018
Is this what they call the Hastert Rule? https://t.co/SaplTt0lX0
— (((Robert Arthur))) (@jaunte) February 20, 2018
re: #11 Citizen K
God I hate David Brooks
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Right, we need to bring in Red Staters to tell us how the current laws are already too restrictive, how “law-abiding citizens” should not be forced to jump through legal hoops to own a gun, and how the “real” targets should be the mentally ill and minorities.
David Brooks, never shrinking away from being absolutely wrong on every subject he pontificates about.
One thing I was thinking about earlier: Mass shootings are almost never carried out by women.
I’m really curious as to why that is.
re: #17 The Ghost of a Flea
And I say all that as a gun owner.
I literally only ever admit I own firearms on this board, because I don’t want to fucking talk to other people.
re: #22 FormerDirtDart
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“Too young” to have opinions about gun control, but you can be sure if you asked them if a “responsible” 18 yr old should be allowed to own a gun, they’d not only answer in the affirmative but argue that that “young adult” was the sort of guy the Founders thought of when they wrote the 2nd Amendment.
re: #15 Stanley Sea
Duane Reade is apparently like a Walgreens.
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re: #17 The Ghost of a Flea
What amazes me about “gun culture” is how often its participants indulge in the fantasy of “I could take you out, I’m dangerous” and “I’m just waiting for X to fuck up so I can start shooting at those people” but also want to be viewed as serious.
I mean, all of their competence fantasies start with the idea that everyone else is stupid, weak, and about to snap at any moment. Their understanding of crime is that it’s strangers and easily-detectable weird people, not the guy next door.
Whether or not they can hit a target is non sequitur when they have no self-awareness, no situational awareness, and no interest in how crime actual goes down.
This is the real reason the GOP’s ‘mental health’ deflection will never go anywhere. Any sensible screening along these lines will preferentially take guns away from the gun nuts because they are gun nuts.
For example, much is being made of the Parkland shooter’s social media presence with all the creepy gun fondling. But that’s what gun nuts do online. It’s their version of posing online nude with the 12” strap-on.
re: #3 JordanRules
Definitely more worthwhile than eating Tide Pods.
re: #23 jaunte
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Oh shit I forgot about Hastert. Seriously what the fuck is going on?
I mean, we know what’s going on though, right? Conservatism is intrinsically a backwards looking movement driven by nostalgia for a time when (especially older) white men could exercise their privilege, wealth & power through the sexual dominance and exploitation of the young and the poor.
re: #28 MsJ
What is Duane Reade? A drug store?
Yup. A NYC-only chain that was bought out a few years back by Walgreens (though it continues to operate under its own name.)
I can’t conceive of how you could possibly spend $30,000 there, unless you have an obscenely expensive prescription.
re: #26 The Ghost of a Flea
I literally only ever admit I own firearms on this board, because I don’t want to fucking talk to other people.
Extremely same. People are the goddamned worst.
re: #26 The Ghost of a Flea
We are gun owners also. Made the mistake of saying so once on my alternate FB. Have gotten NRA spam for years because of it.
re: #32 ipsos
Yup. A NYC-only chain that was bought out a few years back by Walgreens (though it continues to operate under its own name.)
I can’t conceive of how you could possibly spend $30,000 there, unless you have an obscenely expensive prescription.
Or you’re dealing perception drugs. Or laundering money via kickbacks. “Here, charge $500 and give me $250 back.”
re: #31 goddamnedfrank
Oh shit I forgot about Hastert. Seriously what the fuck is going on?
I mean, we know what’s going on though, right? Conservatism is intrinsically a backwards looking movement driven by nostalgia for a time when (especially older) white men could exercise their privilege, wealth & power through the sexual dominance and exploitation of the young and the poor.
Well when you put it like that it sounds sorta bad and shit.
re: #30 Amory Blaine
Clearly you haven’t had a properly prepared Tide Pod.
re: #31 goddamnedfrank
Oh shit I forgot about Hastert. Seriously what the fuck is going on?
I mean, we know what’s going on though, right? Conservatism is intrinsically a backwards looking movement driven by nostalgia for a time when (especially older) white men could exercise their privilege, wealth & power through the sexual dominance and exploitation of the young and the poor.
To date, the US conservative movement has not found a truly satisfying replacement ritual for the part of a lynching where a black male victim was castrated.
I still think the whole Tide Pods thing was a psycho cynical marketing ploy.
I was typing this tweet out when the power went out. It is now a tweet almost two hours later.
#FlipFlopMitt Yo @MittRomney, you’re already adhering to the famous Trump maxim “There’s a tweet for everything.” You’re a Republican company man through and through. pic.twitter.com/HxCvSiEQcv
— Charlie Vogel, aka His Teleness the Charlie Lama (@teleskiguy) February 20, 2018
re: #25 Eclectic Cyborg
One thing I was thinking about earlier: Mass shootings are almost never carried out by women.
I’m really curious as to why that is.
One gender is constantly told that their anger is a form of validity. And that if they’re pissed, someone did something that *made* them angry in a way that demands either redress of retribution.
(Or am I being literal and missing sarcasm?)
re: #42 teleskiguy
I was typing this tweet out when the power went out. It is now a tweet almost two hours later.
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Cuck.
re: #18 JordanRules
Every single Storycorps makes me cry.
The Winter Olympics feature 2,951 of the world’s greatest athletes, and also this woman: https://t.co/jGCNyxZGSX pic.twitter.com/2mo6X0JpTQ
— Deadspin (@Deadspin) February 19, 2018
Completely average skier works the system and lands a spot in the Olympics
John Oliver takes on the issue of the Parkland, Fla. shooting, specifically calling out the Republican congressman about culture, prayer in school, Tide Pods, and watching “The Andy Griffith Show.”
His clip from “The Andy Griffith Show” right at the end calls out the BS of the NRA and their apparatchiks. (3:04)
re: #43 The Ghost of a Flea
One gender is constantly told that their anger is a form of validity. And that if they’re pissed, someone did something that *made* them angry in a way that demands either redress of retribution.
(Or am I being literal and missing sarcasm?)
One gender is told that it’s “right” to be angry over a perceived slight, and that the only way they can regain face/honor/respect/pride/etc is to get revenge.
The other gender is told they need to “smile more” because men don’t like it when they frown all the time.
re: #12 Renaissance_Man
I am pleasantly surprised and impressed. A movement like this might actually make a difference - America’s religion of human sacrifice will not be stopped by government action alone. It will take both that and a culture of public shaming, making this idea of gun madness socially unacceptable, just as smoking is. It is in this sort of thing that social media might be used for good.
I bet the gun makers are delighted. They get to make another one… Signed, still a cynic.
re: #50 Targetpractice
One gender is told that it’s “right” to be angry over a perceived slight, and that the only way they can regain face/honor/respect/pride/etc is to get revenge.
The other gender is told they need to “smile more” because men don’t like it when they frown all the time.
Related thread:
Deeper even than the gun problem is this: boys are broken.
— Michael Ian Black (@michaelianblack) February 15, 2018
re: #43 The Ghost of a Flea
One gender is constantly told that their anger is a form of validity. And that if they’re pissed, someone did something that *made* them angry in a way that demands either redress of retribution.
(Or am I being literal and missing sarcasm?)
It’s not even just that their anger is a form of validity, but that anger is the only valid emotion a man is supposed to have. Anything else, especially sadness, fear, or concern, is somehow grounds for not being a ‘real man’. ‘Real men’ are meant to be aggressive, proactive, and willing to use force to solve their problems, especially as a first resort.
re: #53 Citizen K
Yes. That is a better way of putting it.
re: #51 retired cynic
They were gonna do that anyway.
re: #25 Eclectic Cyborg
One thing I was thinking about earlier: Mass shootings are almost never carried out by women.
I’m really curious as to why that is.
What’s weird is that the first mass school shooting was an extreme outlier, carried out by a 16 year old girl using a Ruger 10/22 rimfire rifle. She lived across the street from an elementary school and just decided to shoot at the kids one morning, killed the Principal and a Janitor as they tried to get the kids to safety.
A reporter reached Spencer by phone while she was still in the house after the shooting, and asked her why she did it. She answered: “I don’t like Mondays. This livens up the day,”
re: #56 goddamnedfrank
I’d argue that the first school massacre in modern history was the Bath School disaster in Michigan in 1927. That was a bombing, though.
re: #25 Eclectic Cyborg
One thing I was thinking about earlier: Mass shootings are almost never carried out by women.
I’m really curious as to why that is.
We had such a shooter in a Chicago suburb in 1988 — Laurie Dann. She shot several children at a school, murdering one, fled by car, and eventually killed herself when she was trapped in a home she had entered. She had also tried poisons, a bomb, can of gasoline to attack others. en.wikipedia.org
re: #56 goddamnedfrank
Admittedly this is me spinning plates, but…kind of like in serial crime, women tend to assert power within a cultural frame, punching down on targets that are underneath them. Hence the immense number of nurse murderers, killers of the elderly and children, and the comparative scarcity of straight-out stalk-and-kill female serial criminals.
eta: there’s also the interesting variation of women murdering boarders and guests…which again, is a variation of the idea of targeting a dependent (within a limited frame).
re: #41 BigPapa
I still think the whole Tide Pods thing was a psycho cynical marketing ploy.
If only we could persuade gun nuts to start eating their ammo. It’s got electrolytes, you know.
You just know if there were at least one student or parent begging to know why there weren’t “more” armed guards, why teachers aren’t armed, and why the school isn’t built like a max-security prison, they’d be the darling of the far-right. They’d be on Faux, they’d be getting interviews by Breitbart, they’d even get glowing articles in the “liberal” press about how they’re advocating “common sense” responses to the shooting.
So the Facebook exec who was retweeted by Trump is apologizing for his tweets https://t.co/nNKWbPBVgn
— Jon Passantino (@passantino) February 20, 2018
Sometimes the Bad site is actually Good pic.twitter.com/vtSyFvJg4v
— Patrick Monahan (@pattymo) February 19, 2018
re: #25 Eclectic Cyborg
Lots of good replies, insights and such to your query.. To me, it’s all encompassed by toxic masculinity.
re: #59 The Ghost of a Flea
Further plate-spinning:
Back to the idea of a cultural frame to the use of power: Folie a deux criminal pairs—killer couples—demonstrate that when they perceive themselves as having license—bestowed by a male partners (or more than one, in a few cases) acting as proxies, women can and do exercise sadism and violence in a way that’s much like male serial criminals.
This is so fucking sad. https://t.co/dnDcJERXiL
— Gus Ironic Colonialist™ (@Gus_802) February 20, 2018
This very young woman was shot and killed in her school with .223 caliber bullets fired from a legally purchased AR-15 fired by another teenager who was kicked out of said school. Shooter is a Fuckface Von Clownstick supporter. https://t.co/FdCmEgEUuA
— Charlie Vogel, aka His Teleness the Charlie Lama (@teleskiguy) February 20, 2018
re: #46 FormerDirtDart
Holy fucking hell!
When I saw the headline I thought it was the Onion. I can’t decide whether this is one of the saddest or most awesome things I’ve seen all day.
re: #43 The Ghost of a Flea
No sarcasm missed. I genuinely want to get to the root of what drives these monsters.
Five days the United States has gone without a gun massacre. Baby steps.
re: #64 JordanRules
Lots of good replies, insights and such to your query.. To me, it’s all encompassed by toxic masculinity.
I’m inclined to agree. I’ve gone to great lengths to set a good example for my nephews. Their father was pissed when one of them wanted to do artsy stuff instead of play football.
I took the boy to Michaels one afternoon and we picked out some supplies and crafted together. We had a great bonding time.
I don’t understand why men can’t get this.
re: #71 Eclectic Cyborg
I’m inclined to agree. I’ve gone to great lengths to set a good example for my nephews. Their father was pissed when one of them wanted to do artsy stuff instead of play football.
I took the boy to Michaels one afternoon and we picked out some supplies and crafted together. We had a great bonding time.
I don’t understand why men can’t get this.
While I enjoy football, I’m always happy to say my Dad was far into music than sports. No Sunday afternoons where Dad disappeared into the den or unrealistic expectations for our athletics.
re: #70 teleskiguy
Five days the United States has gone without a gun massacre. Baby steps.
Actually, no.
Five People Including Five-Year-Old Boy Shot Outside San Antonio Roadhouse (goes to the San Antonio Current)
I’m sure he doesn’t really know what’s ACTUALLY in the book. just what someone told him. (I hope someone played a trick on him)
— Kay Z (@k_zac) February 20, 2018
anyone who actually sat down to favorably opine on the subject of donald trump, bulwark of Christian rectitude, ought to have his mouth shat in. https://t.co/qsbuBWJ8ia
— fooler initiative (@metroadlib) February 20, 2018
The mayor of Dallas invites the NRA to find someplace else to hold their convention. https://t.co/R5LpWIGrnH #NoNRAMoney
— Joy Reid (@JoyAnnReid) February 20, 2018
#NowPlaying The Exploited > Let’s Start A War https://t.co/8zZoWtgD9M
— Charlie Vogel, aka His Teleness the Charlie Lama (@teleskiguy) February 20, 2018
Barack Obama on common sense gun laws. Listen to this. Listen to every word of this. pic.twitter.com/AloDCaJg1c
— Black Lives Matter (@usblm) February 19, 2018
Remember when President Obama, in a townhall hosted by Gwen Ifill, explained why we don’t have sensible gun control laws & how we could? https://t.co/qgNPCkKyOt
— Sherrilyn Ifill (@Sifill_LDF) February 19, 2018
re: #79 JordanRules
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re: #80 Hecuba’s daughter
We shall see. November is coming and I’m ready to work my ass off.
Do you accept insurance for counseling and if so what is your copay
— Selene San Felice (@seleniepanini) February 20, 2018
re: #11 Citizen K
God I hate David Brooks
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He defines the NYT. Last week I cancelled my subscription. Only reason I took it up was a cheap monthly special. Thought I would last until the 2018 election. Lasted 2 months - even at rock bottom rates - not worth it.
re: #68 Eclectic Cyborg
No sarcasm missed. I genuinely want to get to the root of what drives these monsters.
My standing position is that the public mass shooter lies in the same spectrum as the family annihilator (that is, mass murder only with a limited social frame), the domestic murderer, and the domestic abuser.
Common features that are present in different proportions (spoilered because I’m being blunt about disturbing things):
- external locus of control. Their violence is seen as a reaction, a re-assertion of power, hence the endless variations of “why did you make me do this?” in domestic abuse/murder. In extreme cases, this manifests as true paranoia (think Jared Loughner), but is also present in conspiracy theories and cleaving to various -isms that proclaim a Manichean culture war, and the old fashioned misogyny (in which the woman supposedly knows better but performs an act that merits harms, and is thus the “aggressor”).
That sense of deprivation of power may explain the suicide run of the spree*: the shooter can’t perceive a long-term “win” (contrary to the serial abuser, who sees a path to controlling the abused), and thus the momentary “win” of the spree—followed by going out on top, egoistic suicide—seems like the best option.
* However! I’m not sure that all spree shooters start their brutal act with death in mind. At least some imagine themselves getting away or continuing their spree. So “locus of control” is not a fixed number, more like a spectrum from “no perception of ability to regain power” to “desperate to continue exercising the fleeting power of the spree.” The domestic killer and/or occasional family annihilator who escapes and sets up a new family demonstrates that locus of control is not necessarily a fixed value: killing and getting away with it resets the value.
- narcissism. So many variations on this, but mostly just an inability to relate to people as anything but use-value entities. This can be seen in the crimes where sexual resentment is the justification (San Bernadino, the Montreal shooting, every “man kills ex and her family”) with the greatest clarity, and also in various supremacist -isms that make the targets lesser people, but it is also present in the grandiose Raskolnikov-like justifications that invoke a superiority-as-predator or inherent greatness. Indeed, manifestos in general are less “explanations” and more assertions of narcissism by assembling a pseudo-intellectual frame for what’s basically a masturbatory act.
Abusive relationships tend to crop up in spree shooter backgrounds, and it’s likely a reflection of this use-value quality to how they view other people. Those that fail to serve a specific desired function are targeted. In most cases, that’s wives and girlfriends and exes who have “failed” in some specific way, and the constellation of associates for abetting that “failure.” In some cases, it’s people in general, because the internal cosmos of the more grandiose spree-killer simply declares everyone else less useful. Belief-specific targeting—misogyny, racism, et cetera—incorporates this too. Personally, I suspect that Sandy Hook was about what Adam Lanza wanted from children (to abuse them) but couldn’t find a path to…kind of like the man who took over the Amish school years ago.
And it’s not a coincidence that spree shooters tend to be male, and generally white: narcissism has a cultural component, and privileged individuals leap to a place of narcissistic injury faster. Which is a big part of the phenomenon of “toxic masculinity”: the sense of entitlement to rage, cruelty, and expression of antisocial impulses.
- sadism. Not expressed in the same way as a serial criminal, where power/sex drives more and more elaborate (and eventually ritualized) expressions of power and control…including desecration of corpses, trophy keeping, necrophilia, and cannibalism…because “dead versus alive” isn’t a meaningful distinction relative to the need to keep asserting power. Your domestic killer is generally trying to maintain a power relationship, fails, and then moves to killing spontaneously, killing as part of incompetent use of physical coercion, or as a premediated act of revenge. But for the spree killer the act of killing is a kind of climax, and the planning/rehearsal phase is all about the erotism of power, the fantasy of total control (specifically in contrast to the sense that power has been taken away, or respect not given).
That there’s a spectrum involved in this can be seen in things like taunting during the spree itself, pre-emptive villification of the targets as inferiors—another role filled by manifestos and “explanations.”
- low empathy and primarily interacting with power and dominance in mind. This is a corollary of “narcissism” and “sadism” but bears its own entry, because I suspect the degree of need for power determines the pattern of the violence. A domestic killer is a failed domestic abuser, trying to create a long-term power dynamic that has a social frame, but spree killers express variable degrees of permanently asserting power over targets. Domestic murders are about personal power exchanges—spree killings are about more about an amorphous sense of being unjustly down-power relative to people in general or a specific group (women and co-workers being a common specific group), though that’s not absolute certainty. There are patterns like: killing family members before initiating the public spree; targeting someone specific before expanding the scope of violence (many people are shot, but the specific target is the ex, being the best example) that demonstrate that specific grievances are turned into general grievances (Charles Dorner is a great example of an ever-expanding list of persecutors that merited harm, even thought the starting point was narcissistic injury in the workplace).
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In effect, serial abusers and serial killers are trying to extend a power dynamic, and plan and strategize with that in mind. Both repeat, finding new targets, to meet their needs. Both experiment with new power assertion methods when deprived of their preferred operation mode: for example, serial killers are very adept at messing with psychologists, other inmates, “fans” using only narratives and minor social assertions of power (Edmund Kemper being the master, basically whole-cloth inventing excuses for his own behavior and selling them to profilers desperate for a deep-psychology explanation of sexualized serial crime inn return for small in-prison perks…Kemper thus asserting power over his reviled mother, and the profilers he duped, the prison system itself, and every asshole that believed him.) Domestic murderers and spree killers are trying to end a power dynamic as a final assertion of dominance.
- a specific breaking point in which desire, or desperation, transcends calculation of other means of obtaining power/sadistic/narcissistic needs. Again, this is best looked at in comparison to serial crime. There are serial killers for whom murder is enjoyable but about immediate needs—kill to take shit, kill to retaliate against perceived harm; kill because you can get paid to kill—who just go on and on. There are serial killers who have a very specific, fetishistic need that they want to fulfill over and over, hence the mix of predatory behavior (seeking targets) and opportunism (seizing targets that jump into view) and covering behavior (hiding so that the need can be fulfilled over and over). The domestic murderer and the spree killer generally reach the place of “I want to kill” after failing to see or execute alternatives—healthy alternatives (such as letting go of the need for power assertion), unhealthy but viable strategies (the skillset that permits long term domestic abuse, or finding a job that allows indulgence of power/sadism needs), or the serial killer pattern of addressing those needs as maintenance. Even spree killers that plan to get away plan in terms of “escape current lifestyle, maybe continue spree” rather than try to completely conceal themselves.*
The familicide John List is a very interesting demonstration of this point of arriving at a moment of desperation after failing other strategies, since he got away and started a whole second life before getting caught. With his first family, he had a tightly set-up abuse structure that met his needs until his work life and financial failures made him feel ashamed…thus desperate…thus willing to “fix” the issue by killing everyone and making a new family.
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An interesting example of this “down power, must fix with extreme measures” is the Las Vegas shooting, because it gestures at, of all things, the geopolitical scale at which this shit can work. The minute it turned out that the shooter was wealthy and spent time in SE Asia, what occurred to me was…Colonel Kurtz. Big dollar money in the developing world is an example of a perfect setup to abuse power…and sure enough, there’s signs that he was deep into child trafficking. Hitting a moment where he becomes down power by losing money—and maybe by catching wind that the law was after him, given what happened with his brother being arrested (after the shooting), we may be looking at an especially large scale narcissistic tantrum. I mean, that’s fucking dark, but none of these crimes really makes sense outside of “fuck everybody, I feel hurt and somebody’s going to get hurt to make me feel big.”
* though as we’ve just seen with Cruz trying to slip away unidentified, this is not a set value.
All of the above means that mental illness can exacerbate that lack of empathy/sadism/power need triad. Paranoia and delusions mean leaping to that critical moment of feeling out of control and overwhelmed by external forces. Anger issues (not that we have a robust pathology for anger, because our culture is fucked) mean rashness and less planning. Depression and anxiety mean a struggle to see a long term. But no mental illness completely explains the final choice of action.
In the same way, cultural factors, scaling from family influence to national/regional culture, can chop and channel the leap to mass killing. Misogyny turns up a great deal, because it the single most common cultural component that encourages lack of empathy/assertion of power/dehumanization of the target. The idea of masculinity as defined by aggression and “hitting back” dovetails with this,* as does a more general idea of lethal force as personal empowerment.
* and somewhere in here, instead of comparing with serial killers, there’s a case to be made for comparison with honor killings, honor culture violence like feuding, and even pre-modern social structures that included killing as a response to injury of personal or collective dignity (such as summary executions by samurai, vigilante violence in a caste structure, lynchings) .
re: #87 The Ghost of a Flea
Your thesis is fantastic.
re: #88 Renaissance_Man
I am a big fan of Foucault, who is very eloquent about power and sex in both healthy and unhealthy dynamics…and the guy that pointed to De Sade’s one good observation about people. I’m also a fan of Richard Walter—who’s part of the Vidocq Society—who profiles but is also acerbically disinterested in the sort of “deep” “mommy was indifferent to me” profiling that is embedded in the popular imagination. He’s Foucaltian in his analysis—the criminal is asserting power in some way, look for the indicators in the crime of what kind of power assertion is happening, and what that likely means about the perp—though I don’t think he actually invokes Foucault.
Being a guy who majored in genocide (basically) and vectored off into mass killings in general, I think there’s cross-cultural comparisons that we don’t make specifically because of white privilege. “Honor killings are shit that backwards brown people do, not civilized Caucasians” is implicit in a lot of the analysis of these kinds of spree murders—and domestic violence in general. One of the things CL and I used to talk about was how Islamic “honor killings” of brides and daughters wasn’t some kind of culture-bound syndrome, but part of a larger picture of shitty power/control/misogyny stuff that the US doesn’t like to admit is still in our makeup.
That’s pretty much what I’m hybridizing. Doubtless if I were actually in the field I’d find authors already covering this.
re: #87 The Ghost of a Flea
You should post this to the right-hand column of LGF as an article.
I just got back from driving around the village and raising the flags back to full-staff after the country’s latest mass shooting. Being out in 0F weather freezing my hands off whilst driving around on powder snow-covered streets in fog and coming home to slightly frostbitten hands is about how my spirit feels at the moment.
On the other hand, the mass of students and adults who have said “this far and no more” seems like a sea-change on the issue of gun violence. Rep. Paul Ryan’s clueless response to the teacher at his fund-raiser (I don’t want to talk about politics) just adds to the disconnect that conservatives have from the electorate.
When it comes to school shootings, it doesn’t matter if you are a conservative voter, or a liberal voter, or even a non-voter. Especially if you have school-aged children all you want is for the violence to end.
The students out in public now, taking to the airwaves and newspapers whilst conservative politicians hide from the press is going to shape this year’s election campaigns. An awful lot of students in every state of the nation will be eligible to vote in this election.
Moreover, they are reaching out to the survivors of other shootings (Virginia Tech, Columbine, Sandy Hook, &c).
While this might not end the NRA as an organisation, it does look like their influence is now a negative for a politician.
What would be best for the NRA would be to go back to its roots (promoting gun safety, hunting, history and collections, gunsmithing, &c). If they do not, they may very well be swept away, along with the politicians they support in either party.
We seem to be in a cool period in California. I stepped outside to look at the stars and I got cold really fast. I came inside and looked at the thermometer, it’s 35 and might become the year low by morning.
re: #92 Single-handed sailor
We seem to be in a cool period in California. I stepped outside to look at the stars and I got cold really fast. I came inside and looked at the thermometer, it’s 35 and might become the year low by morning.
That’s about thirty-five degrees warmer than it is here (my hot water pipe was frozen when I came back inside to thaw my hands).
Want some snow? (I know Teleskiguy would like our snow to be falling further south of us, like over Colorado’s mountains, though our aquifer is replenished by snowfall in the winter so we need it too.)
Snowfall has pretty much ended in Wyoming. Here we are under a winter weather advisory, with a winter storm warning in the next county north.
weather.gov (Cheyenne NWS regional weather).
Perfect wintry weather here on the Rhine, just above freezing, sunny, calm and pleasant.
re: #95 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Perfect wintry weather here on the Rhine, just above freezing, sunny, calm and pleasant.
Radar shows the heaviest bands of snow here are from Harrisburg, Nebraska (population 100, the county seat of Banner County) to the southwest to an area east of Steamboat Springs, Colorado.
That whole line is moving northeast, and the storm system is moving east, so it will be here soon. We’re about to get a dump-ex of snow.
(cross hairs north of Sidney on the map is my home. Zoom in about forty times to see it.)
re: #96 Anymouse 🌹
I recall stopping at Steamboat Springs ca 1973 on our family trip to Yellowstone and Grand Tetons. I guess that’s about as close as I have ever come to your home town.
Yes, it’s been a dry winter with only 7.87” of rain for the season (July to June). Our next chance of rain is March 2nd, with a 60% chance…
We’ve been having 80 degree days and the ornamental pear tree in our front yard is in full bloom, solid white with flower. It looks like a giant 20 foot dandelion puffball.
re: #97 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I recall stopping at Steamboat Springs ca 1973 on our family trip to Yellowstone and Grand Tetons. I guess that’s about as close as I have ever come to your home town.
People don’t come to my town unless they are hopelessly lost or completely unhinged. /s
Actually that’s not true: We are on the Oregon Trail (and thus the road through town is a National Historic Place). We even have a friend coming by from Omaha to visit on his way back from his annual Colorado beer pub hajj, and last year we had a friend who came by when he was traveling to Yellowstone.
(The second fellow I mentioned saw the town sign and said, hey, that’s where Anymouse lives. He then spent about twenty minutes at the general store asking where I lived in town with locals giving him the side eye wondering why an out-of-stater was asking about me.)
re: #99 Anymouse 🌹
People don’t come to my town unless they are hopelessly lost or completely unhinged. /s
Actually that’s not true: We are on the Oregon Trail (and thus the road through town is a National Historic Place).
But traffic kinda died down on that route once settles stopped emigrating…
re: #11 Citizen K
God I hate David Brooks
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He’s the ultimate oleaginous mansplainer.
re: #100 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
But traffic kinda died down on that route once settles stopped emigrating…
They’re still emigrating (out).
Christian values… .
Ohio pastor and family burst into Sunday school class, beat up teacher — and rob her at gunpoint: police (goes to Raw Story)
A Toledo pastor and two family members have been charged with felonies for allegedly beating and robbing a Sunday school teacher at church.
Pastor Anthony Morris and his wife, Zelda Morris, and daughter Kamali Morris were each charged with aggravated robbery with a deadly weapon, a first-degree felony, after the incident Sunday at St. Paul’s AME Zion Church, reported the Toledo Blade.
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re: #103 Anymouse 🌹
Christian values… .
Ohio pastor and family burst into Sunday school class, beat up teacher — and rob her at gunpoint: police (goes to Raw Story)
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This says more about the absurdity of human nature than about Christianity itself.
re: #104 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
This says more about the absurdity of human nature than about Christianity itself.
It does say that morals don’t come from Christianity though.
re: #105 Anymouse 🌹
It does say that morals don’t come from Christianity though.
That is one of those absurd assumptions.
We see the opposite from many people, namely that practicioners of a particular religion (Islam, Judaism, etc.) are somehow immoral, violent, avaricious and/or out to seek world dominance.
Or that atheists/agnostics cannot be moral at all because they do not worship/fear the correct god.
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I just got an E-mail from my sister about her wife’s memorial service.
It turns out my sister (who lives in the Los Angeles area) forgot I don’t have a Facebook account so the details about the memorial service didn’t get to me. She just contacted me to tell me it’s Saturday.
I have to tell her I cannot come: we currently have a blizzard, and mandatory water tests on Wednesday. Had she remembered I don’t live in a First World nation like California and contacted me using a novel device like a telephone, I could have made arrangements.
I regret not being able to go, and passed that on to her.
The memorial is public, so if anyone wants to go on my wife’s and my behalf to offer our condolences and note that there are others she probably doesn’t know about who also care, and live in the LA area, the details are behind the hide bar.
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re: #87 The Ghost of a Flea
My standing position is that the public mass shooter lies in the same spectrum as the family annihilator (that is, mass murder only with a limited social frame), the domestic murderer, and the domestic abuser.
Common features that are present in different proportions (spoilered because I’m being blunt about disturbing things):
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Also known as “If you leave me, nobody will ever love you again.”
Power. Control. Narcissism.
re: #106 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
That is one of those absurd assumptions.
We see the opposite from many people, namely that practicioners of a particular religion (Islam, Judaism, etc.) are somehow immoral, violent, avaricious and/or out to seek world dominance.
Or that atheists/agnostics cannot be moral at all because they do not worship/fear the correct god..
Only yesterday I wrote another one of my apologetics fails (not yet up on my wife’s Website but sent out in E-mail) on the fail “atheism is nihilism.”
re: #25 Eclectic Cyborg
One thing I was thinking about earlier: Mass shootings are almost never carried out by women.
I’m really curious as to why that is.
One could claim that women are simply stronger and braver than men, and carrying out a mass shooting of helpless, unarmed victims is a sign of weakness and cowardice.
re: #110 Anymouse 🌹
Only yesterday I wrote another one of my apologetics fails (not yet up on my wife’s Website but sent out in E-mail) on the fail “atheism is nihilism.”
One of the most absurd leaps is “There is a spiritual/moral force guiding the universe” to “Every word in the Christian Bible is the literal truth”.
re: #112 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
One of the most absurd leaps is “There is a spiritual/moral force guiding the universe” to “Every word in the Christian Bible is the literal truth”.
Without any demonstration of that spiritual (what does that word even mean, anyway, since every person seems to have a different definition for it) or moral force, but I’m just supposed to accept that on faith.
I wish my bank would accept on faith that I have ten million dollars in my checking account and they should just let me write a cheque for “cash” on that.
re: #113 Anymouse 🌹
Without any demonstration of that spiritual (what does that word even mean, anyway, since every person seems to have a different definition for it) or moral force, but I’m just supposed to accept that on faith.
I wish my bank would accept on faith that I have ten million dollars in my checking account and they should just let me write a cheque for “cash” on that.
I would like to believe that there is such a force in the universe, but that is a matter of personal faith.
I also think that it is worthwhile from a cultural and standpoint, especially as a member of Western civilization, to study the Bible and its historical context.
And it is the latter that led to my first crisis of faith as a teenager when I came to understand that the Bible is inconsistent, contradictory in places and not to be understood literally.
re: #114 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
A good number of atheists who were once Christians say they arrived at the position of atheism by reading the Bible.
I never was a Christian so I do not understand things like “spiritual” or “faith in things unseen.” I have read both the Bible and Qur’an several times.
I don’t really hold them in context of the history of so-called Western civilization, except as how they have been used to justify just about every atrocity committed until they were dragged kicking and screaming forward by the Enlightenment.
There is a reason they called that period “the Dark Ages.”
If Nikolas Cruz was receiving SSDI payments, I wonder if he used those proceeds to purchase his AR-15?
After Mr. Trump focused on mental health in his national address on Thursday in response to the Parkland shooting, many journalists, activists and others, like Mr. Kimmel, noted the repeal of a rule that would have prevented “seriously mentally ill” people from purchasing guns.
Federal law already bars anyone who “has been adjudicated as a mental defective or has been committed to any mental institution” from purchasing a gun. And a majority of states have laws requiring them to report mental health information to the national background check system. But gaps in the system still exist.
After the Newtown shooting, President Obama proposed adding another data source to the background check system: reports from the Social Security Administration of people who receive disability benefits through a third party because of mental impairments. According to a 2016 White House fact sheet, the rule would have affected 75,000 people.
It was opposed by the National Rifle Association, but also the American Civil Liberties Union, which said the rule violated civil rights. Some disability rights groups also argued against the rule on the basis that it perpetuated stigmas about mental illness.
Mr. Trump signed a congressional resolution that expressed disapproval of the proposed rule in February 2017, nine months before compliance would have been required.
re: #115 Anymouse 🌹
I kind of went the other way: I was totally put off Christianity by a Catholic upbringing, and all the Campus Crusade for Christ twits knock on my dorm room door in college.
It was not until later in life that I met people who quietly but convincingly practiced their Christian faith without being preachy or pious about it and started to see that there were positive aspects to it: not enough to convert me, but enough to reawaken my interest in studying it.
re: #116 Shropshire Slasher
It was opposed by the National Rifle Association, but also the American Civil Liberties Union, which said the rule violated civil rights. Some disability rights groups also argued against the rule on the basis that it perpetuated stigmas about mental illness.
you mean the stereotype that they are prone to go about shooting up schools, university campuses, PP clinics, cinemas and concerts?
re: #116 Shropshire Slasher
If Nikolas Cruz was receiving SSDI payments, I wonder if he used those proceeds to purchase his AR-15?
From that article:
Nikolas Cruz, who has been linked to a history of mental illness, is believed to have used a legally obtained AR-15 in the shooting.
Linked? By who? What source? Have others intimate with the alleged mass murderer (family, friends, &c) confirmed “mental illness” or is this just a knee-jerk reaction by the New York Times (blogs said he was mentally ill, so it must be true).
As for SSDI payments, they are pretty hard to qualify for as I understand (I can’t get them because I worked for exactly one Social Security quarter and thus Social Security has rejected my claim - already fought and lost on appeal, doesn’t matter the reason I only worked one quarter was because I could not hold the job with my conditions).
As for regular social security, I can qualify in five more years (at age sixty-two), or wait for larger payments (when I am sixty-five).
I’ve pretty much already gotten used to the idea of living in poverty (my biggest bill is my Internet service, which takes over 15% of my VA disability), so sixty-two is not necessarily my consideration.
I’m primarily left with three issues:
a) No life insurance company will issue a policy (at least one I can afford) to a person with epilepsy. I have to save up to die.
b) I have already outlived all the men in my family anyone can remember for generations.
c) If the libertarian nihilists conservatives in the government get their way, Wall Street will make the Social Security Trust Fund disappear managing the Social Security Trust Fund. It might not be there in eight years.
re: #119 Anymouse 🌹
He may have gotten a death benefit from SSDI when his mother passed as well. Many time children of SSDI recipients also get a payment, and once the children become adults, they sometimes can be considered qualified for being disabled under the law.
re: #121 Shropshire Slasher
He may have gotten a death benefit from SSDI when his mother passed as well. Many time children of SSDI recipients also get a payment, and once the children become adults, they sometimes can be considered qualified for being disabled under the law.
But so far everything is speculation. We’re still back to the issue of no one who would be in a position to know has claimed he was mentally ill. The NYT is just pushing the narrative that “mentally ill people are dangerous.”
As for adult children of SSDI recipients (and there is also no evidence his parents received those either), adult children are still required to qualify the same as everyone else.
As Social Security itself notes, the only way those payments can continue is if the child enters college, or the child is himself or herself disabled.
Supreme Court weighing limits on privacy https://t.co/dEUqYY0mmL
— Supreme Court USA (@iSupremeCourt) February 20, 2018
They’re (CareFirst) trying to get the SCOTUS to require actual harm in data breaches to sue, instead of being able to sue over the data breach itself.
re: #122 Anymouse 🌹
As Social Security itself notes, the only way those payments can continue is if the child enters college, or the child is himself or herself disabled.
My dad died when I was seven and US Steel embezzled my mom out of her widow’s pension (she later received a class action suit settlement on that) but we lived on SS payments and whatever my mom could earn under the table.
I was a prodigal student and skipped the second grade. So I did not want to lose SS payments, which continue until the semester ending on one’s 22nd birthday, so I enrolled in Indiana University in Bloomington at age 17.
That was a big mistake, it was a major party school in the 70’s and although I could certainly keep up academically, I was just not socially or emotionally developed enough and I pretty much wasted my first two semesters there.
LOL
A genuine 10/10 effort from this lad lmaooo I’m crying pic.twitter.com/7wjUJk3HF0
— Gracie Barrow (@GracieBarrow1) February 17, 2018
re: #18 JordanRules
Thank you. We could us a few more Freds in the world.
Nothing should shock us at this point:
Man featured in ads for pro-Trump dating site was convicted of child sex crimes: report https://t.co/zd3wdZCtOw
— Raw Story (@RawStory) February 20, 2018
re: #128 Dr. Matt
Man featured in ads for pro-Trump dating site was convicted of child sex crimes:
I really want to see the spin put on this: victim of a smear campaign?
re: #129 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I really want to see the spin put on this: victim of a smear campaign?
WHY IS THE MEDIA REPORTING THIS AND NOT TRUMP’S SOARING DOW!!!!!??????
re: #50 Targetpractice
One gender is told that it’s “right” to be angry over a perceived slight, and that the only way they can regain face/honor/respect/pride/etc is to get revenge.
The other gender is told they need to “smile more” because men don’t like it when they frown all the time.
1. Men tend to project anger outwards, women take it inwards.
2. Men are more aggressive. A good example is ways they tend to commit suicide….women take poison or overdose, men choose guns or hanging.
3. Both of those are societal messages but there is also evidence that testosterone is involved.
4. Psychopathology is found more in men. Don’t discount what lack of empathy will do when combined with toxic masculinity.
5. There is the “what is it to be a man,” aggression that boils over into sexual assault, violence, and even mass shootings.
Coach Husband has a program he teaches that is about training boys to not follow the messages above. He’s won all kinds of awards in Houston for it, including Houston Coach of the Year twice. I’ve seen the HUGE difference it makes in young men when they’re taught not to buy into the aggression, bravado, and entitlement. My sons are being raised the same way.
I didn’t click through! Kinda like https://t.co/HwbdMCcnps amirite
— Tim Mak (@timkmak) February 17, 2018
The offerings were exactly what you’d expect: pic.twitter.com/ykyDzwCGbZ
— “President” Buffoonery (@politix_news) February 18, 2018
re: #107 Anymouse 🌹
I just got an E-mail from my sister about her wife’s memorial service.
It turns out my sister (who lives in the Los Angeles area) forgot I don’t have a Facebook account so the details about the memorial service didn’t get to me. She just contacted me to tell me it’s Saturday.
I have to tell her I cannot come: we currently have a blizzard, and mandatory water tests on Wednesday. Had she remembered I don’t live in a First World nation like California and contacted me using a novel device like a telephone, I could have made arrangements.
I regret not being able to go, and passed that on to her.
It bothers me that people assume EVERYONE uses Facebook, and that they check it every day — or hour, even. I’ve had something similar happen to me, with my family, some of whom forget that China blocks Facebook and that I (unlike they) do not live on FB anyway.
I guess the Dollar Store pays better than I thought:
The Florida school shooter had obtained 10 rifles in the year before he went on his killing spree, a report said on Tuesday.
A law enforcement source told CNN that Nikolas Cruz had gotten possession of the firearms and authorities were trying to track down where they all came from.
Two of the weapons were purchased from Gun World of South Florida in Deerfield Beach, CNN reported.
But the store’s owner would not provide the network with any details besides saying that the sales followed “normal protocol.”
The information comes to light as debate continues on whether Cruz, who suffered from mental health issues, should have been able to purchase firearms.
Omfg. I took one for the team and made an account. The offerings: 🤮🤮🤮🤮 pic.twitter.com/p636ZyuXdd
— “President” Buffoonery (@politix_news) February 18, 2018
re: #135 Shropshire Slasher
I guess the Dollar Store pays better than I thought:
This is driving me a bit crazy.
Cruz may or may not have had depression but millions of people all over the world have depression. Mental illness is not why the kid killed 17 people. He had no empathy for the people he wounded or killed and easy access to an assault weapon. Period.
Thank you to @foxandfriends for the great timeline on all of the failures the Obama Administration had against Russia, including Crimea, Syria and so much more. We are now starting to win again!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 20, 2018
They aren’t your real friends you know, it’s just the name of the show. https://t.co/8SXRQDM25R
— Lizz Winstead (@lizzwinstead) February 20, 2018
re: #137 BlueGrl21
He had no empathy for the people he wounded or killed and easy access to an assault weapon. Period.
I am sure he played a lot of violent games on his Xbox, but I am not allowed to say that.
For all the bullshit answers being offered, there hasn’t been much (any) talk of upgrading the one program that has “problem child” in its job description: School Psychiatric Social Work.
re: #140 Decatur Deb
For all the bullshit answers being offered, there hasn’t been much (any) talk of upgrading the one program that has problem child in its job description: School Psychiatric Social work.
who would you rather have facing down a school shooter, a good guy with a gun or a liberal guy with a psychology degree?
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re: #141 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
who would you rather have facing down a school shooter, a good guy with a gun or a liberal guy with a psychology degree?
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They’re depraved because they’re deprived.
re: #46 FormerDirtDart
I’m reminded of the English Ski Jumper Eddie “The Eagle” Edwards. en.wikipedia.org
A woman was charged with beating her husband to death with his guitar collection. The judge asked “First offender?”. The woman replied “No. First a Gibson, then a Fender.”
I used to enjoy the Winter Olympics more than the summer games, I liked the hockey and my girlfriends would follow the figure skating, but ever since Sochi I lost all interest in anything Olympic.
re: #135 Shropshire Slasher
I guess the Dollar Store pays better than I thought:
OK, but who amongst us did not buy 10 rifles in the year they turned 19?
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Mueller’s indictment is one of the most important U.S. government documents ever written. It’s worth reading and understanding thoroughly. Five things stand out to me (1/6): https://t.co/yFlBQNBNq5
— Garrett M. Graff (@vermontgmg) February 20, 2018
re: #117 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Like the one up thread? Fred Rodgers was probably the last best Christian in the public sphere.
re: #148 William Lewis
Like the one up thread? Fred Rodgers was probably the last best Christian in the public sphere.
Jimmah is still in play.
re: #146 Sir John Barron
OK, but who amongst us did not buy 10 rifles in the year they turned 19?
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Won’t go into it, but be glad they’re buying sexy black rifles.
So the question I have is, who is the bigger fraud, Trump or Romney.
re: #148 William Lewis
Like the one up thread? Fred Rodgers was probably the last best Christian in the public sphere.
A lot of them are not in the public sphere, they just quietly practice and witness their faith. The ones who make the most noise and circumstance about it are often the biggest hypocrites about it.
re: #153 William Lewis
Point taken.
Did love Mr. Rogers. We had him at WQED a decade before he went national, and I literally, literally, lived in his neighborhood for a short while.
Father Martin, the Jesuit I see sometimes linked here and on a couple RCC friends and family. To me personally, I’m not hostile to religion in itself, I just can’t say I believe in a God and I feel faith is a deeply personal thing.
re: #155 Decatur Deb
Did love Mr. Rogers. We had him at WQED a decade before he went national, and I literally, literally, lived in his neighborhood for a short while.
He always struck me as a genuinely kind person.
Mueller’s indictment is one of the most important U.S. government documents ever written. It’s worth reading and understanding thoroughly. Five things stand out to me (1/6): https://t.co/yFlBQNBNq5
— Garrett M. Graff (@vermontgmg) February 20, 2018
re: #160 makeitstop
I’m in. Take my money.
re: #159 Decatur Deb
Yup. He might yet have another house in him.
On the last day of the world I would want to plant a tree build a house.
W.S. Merwin
Jimmy Carter
re: #160 makeitstop
The big news in my inbox this morning - Todd Rundgren’s Utopia is doing a reunion tour!
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re: #159 Decatur Deb
up. He might yet have another house in him.
I hope it is a small house.
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re: #159 Decatur Deb
Thanks, wanted to make sure I wasn’t missing another awesome Jimmy.
re: #161 Unshaken Defiance
I’m in. Take my money.
Yep, me too.
Too bad Roger Powell isn’t playing keyboards (great soloist), but I’m sure Shuckett will do a good job.
re: #162 Amory Blaine
CNN Panel Melts Down After Jack Kingston Dismisses Parkland Students as Leftist Stooges
Kingston is only a rightist stooge repeating the words his puppet masters feed him.
Alex Van der Zwaan, welcome to the trending column on Twitter. You’re about to become a household name.
— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) February 20, 2018
No evidence to support link between violent video games and behavior
BREAKING: Mueller indicts Russia-linked lawyer for making false statements to federal investigators pic.twitter.com/e4kiUyuJEk
— MSNBC (@MSNBC) February 20, 2018
BREAKING: New case from the special counsel’s office. Defendant is Alex Van Der Zwaan, charged with making false statements. He has a plea hearing scheduled for today at 2:30pm https://t.co/IJ3qLW2f9W pic.twitter.com/6no512ClTy
— Zoe Tillman (@ZoeTillman) February 20, 2018
re: #162 Amory Blaine
CNN Panel Melts Down After Jack Kingston Dismisses Parkland Students as Leftist Stooges
Their tried-and-true tactic is failing them and they seem incapable of developing any other approach than to attack and defame. Does not work well against teenage victims of gun violence.
re: #58 Hecuba’s daughter
My brother was very good friends with Phil Andrew in high school. They were on the swim team and water polo teams together. I’ll never forget that day. Heck. We were at the house just a few days prior. Phil has done a lot of work re: gun violence, even joining the FBI.
Quite a graph. https://t.co/g0Pe077oZa pic.twitter.com/scSFEVfoZH
— Dan Hirschman (@asociologist) February 20, 2018
re: #143 William Lewis
I’m reminded of the English Ski Jumper Eddie “The Eagle” Edwards. en.wikipedia.org
That was my first thought, as well.
re: #151 HappyWarrior
So the question I have is, who is the bigger fraud, Trump or Romney.
Why pick one? Why not both?
Gardening can be an excellent family bonding activity
Happy love your pet day. #LoveYourPetDay pic.twitter.com/QTHcCNqeaG
— Only In Russia (@CrazyinRussia) February 20, 2018
I have been much tougher on Russia than Obama, just look at the facts. Total Fake News!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 20, 2018
For his bravery, Pfc. Emmanuel Mensah was awarded the Soldier’s Medal and the New York State Medal for Valor https://t.co/6B1oQwq5JX
— Stars and Stripes (@starsandstripes) February 20, 2018
Cover another space on Mueller’s Bingo Card!
Special counsel Robert Mueller has filed a charge against a lawyer for lying to investigators about his interaction with former Trump campaign aide Rick Gates in September 2016.
Alex Van der Zwaan is expected to plead guilty Tuesday afternoon.
He is also accused of lying about the failure to turn over an email communication to the special counsel’s office. He was speaking with investigators about his work with Skadden Arps in 2012 when the firm did work for the Ukrainian Ministry of Justice to prepare a report on the trial of Yulia Tymoshenko.
re: #176 MsJ
That was my first thought, as well.
I admire both of them. If I were younger, I could see doing the same in luge.
re: #179 Barefoot Grin
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Even when he farts and belches he lies!
re: #183 FormerDirtDart
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Good. That’s the highest non-combat valor medal we have. He paid the final price for it. I understand his parents had it buried with him.
re: #186 William Lewis
I admire both of them. If I were younger, I could see doing the same in luge.
Luge? LUGE? Why? Why is luge even a thing?
And, speaking of things that should not be things…Gender Revel cakes for Gender Reveal parties. (Of which my friend is having and whom I sent this to this morning.)
Just. Say. No.
Naturally pic.twitter.com/vaaGGnmW3p
— Parker Molloy (@ParkerMolloy) February 20, 2018
re: #189 MsJ
And, speaking of things that should not be things…Gender Revel cakes for Gender Reveal parties. (Of which my friend is having and whom I sent this to this morning.)
We never peeked at the gender of any of our four kids.
I just figured that I was already at that stage when life held so few surprises (Christmas consisted of my ex and I ordering our own Christmas presents and having them sent in each other’s name) that we decided to wait until the kids popped to find out.
Mueller’s Indictments Show How Obama FAILED To Stop Russian Interference In The 2016 Election https://t.co/AfUDC1uarf pic.twitter.com/wxhsTj5toN
— The Daily Caller (@DailyCaller) February 20, 2018
oh, so now there *was* Russian interference.
baby steps for @DailyCaller https://t.co/XJYTEv8yKT— Eric Boehlert (@EricBoehlert) February 20, 2018
Top court rejects challenge to California gun waiting period https://t.co/XHoIxvO3o1
— Reuters Top News (@Reuters) February 20, 2018
To call that “unlikely” would be an understatement. There’s no chance in hell.
Let me give you a taste of the unbelievably long list of potentially disqualifying factors they could take issue with:…
A thought for today
Listened to one of the teachers and a student (18 y/o girl) on fm drive radio this AM.
There’s a rally in tallahassee tomorrow - call it anti gun, action, not one more, whatever you want. The students are going up in buses etc.
2 weeks ago such a rally wasnt even on their radar - let alone organizing one
Here’s the juxtaposition - where we are:
Fair question from the deejay - are you going to the rally in tallahassee tomorrow?
18 year old girl - No, I have to go to two funerals.
i was on the turnpike. tears welling up..
I think MC Escher created this.
On a side note, I am completely nauseated.
Whoever made this gif I just wanna talk
pic.twitter.com/IhO4N1MQai— ᵃsᵃᵈ (@asad_abdullah17) February 19, 2018
re: #191 FormerDirtDart
If he had, you morons would be shrieking about Obama interfering in the election. He can’t win with the far-right.
— Jeff Furlington (@FurlingtonJeff) February 20, 2018
re: #193 Barefoot Grin
If there is a press briefing today SHS is gonna flinging poo over this statement (assuming the proper questions are asked).
Will she do that before or after her pole dance?
Pro-Trump media launch attacks on student survivors of Florida school shooting
Half of the GOP Nazis are abusing children sexually and physically and the other half are attacking them and denigrating them.
Another thought - on why stoneman is different
Its already been touched upon that these kids are articulate, angry, social media whizzes, and had the real time experience video.
I think there’s something else going on here as well.
Innocence
Sandy hook was innocence personified. The survivors were too young to relate and speak to it. Adults did; tried. And it faded. Seeing adults as surrogates does change the narrative. Because we expect different things as adults, from adults.
Most of us, when we get to 20 something or so, recognize some sense of vulnerability or mortality. Even daring devils and hero types. They may not dwell. They know it’s real and possible. Not necessarily being shot at - just anything, health, accidents, etc. And we acknowledge in each other that we all sort of come to know this.
Children dont and we hope arent supposed to. Recognize death, face it. No, theyre supposed to be protected from it, till they can get a handle on their own existence and place in the cosmos. And in the meantime deal with real consequential kid and teenage stuff.
These older kids lost that. They were targets. They are fuming. Not only did society (adults) not protect them, in a real sense a lot of adults through inaction facilitated this.
These particular kids are well educated and savvy. They got mobilized fast, and they speak well. They will not settle for half assed solutions.
I am cautious. And i think this is going to be a turning point.
Usefulless idiots.
Michael Moore’s rally attendance illustrates how broad and deeply pervasive Russia’s act of war is and demonstrates the necessity for Trump to defend America rather than Russia.https://t.co/zby0OTTV2x#MichaelMoore #trumprussia #resist #trump #maga
— Dr. DaShanne Stokes (@DaShanneStokes) February 20, 2018
Michael Moore is Trending because ‘some’ Americans are having an epiphany as to why #FarLeft Talking points mirrored @GOP/#MAGA/Conservative talking points these past 3 years.
— Fresh Brew (@TheFreshBrew) February 20, 2018
Emerson: “A hero is no braver than an ordinary man, but he is brave five minutes longer.” — MSD HS Cadet Pvt. Peter Wang, 15, showed the world on Wed in #Parkland #Florida that even a child can display the same amount of gallantry — five minutes longer — even in the face of evil pic.twitter.com/e3YPUoVTB3
— James LaPorta (@JimLaPorta) February 20, 2018
Freshman MSD H.S. @USArmy JROTC Cadet Pvt. Peter Wang, 15, will be buried today among his JROTC comrades, active duty military and veterans, as a hero. https://t.co/SqaXpeVHfx
— James LaPorta (@JimLaPorta) February 20, 2018
re: #198 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis
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Mueller’s Indictments Show How Obama FAILED To Stop Russian Interference In The 2016 Election
yesterday they were all saying he didnt even try
today he just ‘failed at it’
Who amongst us has not spent a weekend late in September with a small group of soldiers trying to expend the remnants of a battalions worth of ammunition?
Military’s New Problem: Too Much Money, Not Enough Time to Spend It https://t.co/KOpTD5FRGC
re: #162 Amory Blaine
CNN Panel Melts Down After Jack Kingston Dismisses Parkland Students as Leftist Stooges
It’s not like teenagers have ever heard of organising tools like social media, also used by the Women’s March and the Arab Spring… .
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It “never happened” yet he knows all the details.
A woman I don’t know and, to the best of my knowledge, never met, is on the FRONT PAGE of the Fake News Washington Post saying I kissed her (for two minutes yet) in the lobby of Trump Tower 12 years ago. Never happened! Who would do this in a public space with live security……
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 20, 2018
….cameras running. Another False Accusation. Why doesn’t @washingtonpost report the story of the women taking money to make up stories about me? One had her home mortgage paid off. Only @FoxNews so reported…doesn’t fit the Mainstream Media narrative.
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 20, 2018
re: #209 The Vicious Babushka
It “never happened” yet he knows all the details.
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re: #206 FormerDirtDart
Who amongst us has not spent a weekend late in September with a small group of soldiers trying to expend the remnants of a battalions worth of ammunition?
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Never has so many 40mm practice grenades been fired at 25 yard targets all while mocking the MPs shooting on the next range.. Good times..
Shoulder hurt for a week..
re: #204 FormerDirtDart
Look. Son of a filthy immigrant from some shithole country.
JFC.
Makes me want to light fires.
re: #209 The Vicious Babushka
It “never happened” yet he knows all the details.
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“She’s a lying whore!” apparently is only a winning strategy when you’re a Republican. I’m sure the Bible-thumpers will find a way to forgive this transgression as well.
Well, I’m out for now. The snow has stopped, and the sun is out. I’m tired, so it’s time for bed.
I can’t wait for the Dumpster fire in the news when I wake up …
re: #214 Targetpractice
“She’s a lying whore!” apparently is only a winning strategy when you’re a Republican. I’m sure the Bible-thumpers will find a way to forgive this transgression as well.
But he paraded all of Bill Clinton’s accusers at the debate in order to suggest that it was Hillary’s fault.
re: #216 The Vicious Babushka
But he paraded all of Bill Clinton’s accusers at the debate in order to suggest that it was Hillary’s fault.
Yep, to the jeering of many of the same wingnuts who argued during the 90s that Hillary was “complicit” in Bill’s “crimes” because otherwise she would have divorced him the moment she heard the first allegations.
re: #212 Kilroy was here
Never has so many 40mm practice grenades been fired at 25 yard targets all while mocking the MPs shooting on the next range.. Good times..
Shoulder hurt for a week..
Inevitably the question will be answered; “What happens when a group of soldiers simultaneously fire 40mm TPT rounds straight up?”
Oooof:
Man featured on “Trump Dating” site has child sex conviction https://t.co/DuBNPPSQVx pic.twitter.com/UN0KxLGWMz
— CBS Evening News (@CBSEveningNews) February 20, 2018
This makes him a great catch for the 53%. https://t.co/NXohHqSaoZ
— BWD 🤢 You People Replaced Obama With This (@IrisRimon) February 20, 2018
In case it wasn’t immediately clear, she’s talking about the 53% of white women who voted for Cheeto Benito, a stat that to this day makes me want to dry-heave.
re: #219 Interesting Times
Feature. Not bug.
His first question will be “Do you have young children? I love young children.”
re: #219 Interesting Times
Damn, now the Russians have started a dating website, can I buy a Russian bride?
Anyone know who founded this website?
Always gotta be careful about letting ones wishes influence ones read of the facts on the ground right? That having been said, it appears a confluence of things are playing in our favor. Russia, guns, and flat out caught lying. As in lying about guns and Russia, not just angry tweets.
So I’m saying mid terms will go well if we stay on it.
House Democrats Just Had Their Best Ever January Fundraising Haul
The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee raised $9.3 million.
And this
Mueller tells a compelling story of Russian intrigue that was designed to elect Trump
and so on…
Trump and the GOP are making the Republican brand toxic for a generation
Activist Organization Hosts Voter Registration Events At ‘Black Panther’ Screenings
re: #46 FormerDirtDart
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My job started up a car show to raise money for Christmas presents for kids in the area. My coworker, who sounds like her, entered his unmodified 15 year old Honda Civic Hatchback. Won second place in his division out of people just thinking it’s hilarious.
So….every year there’s a music festival here called Colours of Ostrava. It’s becoming more well-known throughout Europe.
And this year, Grace Jones is coming to perform. Holy shit!
re: #221 Shropshire Slasher
Damn, now the Russians have started a dating website, can I buy a Russian bride?
Anyone know who founded this website?
Oh, the online chats you can have with lovely Russian women.
I am sure Ivan is quite beautiful, in his own way.
Remember this beautiful moment from June 2016?
I’m tempted to propose…
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re: #227 Interesting Times
Remember this beautiful moment from June 2016?
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re: #228 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
True, but…
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Something you have never seen before.
This morning Charlie Stephenson provided me with the opportunity to photograph the most captivating cardinal in Alabaster, Alabama. This yellow cardinal displays a rare mutation that causes the metabolic process to produce a different type of pigment than the typical red coloration. According to a biologist from Auburn University, this mutation is so rare that only one is seen each year in the United States. To see updates on this cardinal please check out: Jeremy Black Photography.
re: #139 Shropshire Slasher
I am sure he played a lot of violent games on his Xbox, but I am not allowed to say that.
Sure???
What if he played violent video games because he was already in that mindframe.
You do know a whole heck of a lot of people play violent video games and don’t go on murder sprees, so how does that fit your assuredness?
re: #155 Decatur Deb
Did love Mr. Rogers. We had him at WQED a decade before he went national, and I literally, literally, lived in his neighborhood for a short while.
That’s the station I would catch him on being born and raised north of Pittsburgh.
For Julie!!
I’m a healthcare advocate, lawyer, accountant and working mom. I upturned my entire life to run for Congress.
I’m running because it’s time for honest, decent working Texans like us to end the status quo and to take our country back from the extremist minority. 1/ pic.twitter.com/QfOBwlRFSN— Julie Oliver (@JulieForTX25) February 20, 2018
re: #229 Interesting Times
True, but…
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re: #230 Dave In Austin
Something you have never seen before.
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Poor bastard probably won’t get laid. Hence the lack of prevalence.
re: #139 Shropshire Slasher
I am sure he played a lot of violent games on his Xbox, but I am not allowed to say that.
You say what you want, but people will understand that video games have nothing to do with the mass murder, so will wonder why you said it, and it’ll make you sound like the cranks who blame video games.
re: #206 FormerDirtDart
Who amongst us has not spent a weekend late in September with a small group of soldiers trying to expend the remnants of a battalions worth of ammunition?
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Or empty a bunker of out dated explosives? The last one we set rattled base HQ an PO’d the one star in charge. But oh, that was one hell of a crater we made :D
re: #235 Blind Frog Belly White
Poor bastard probably won’t get laid. Hence the lack of prevalence.
Prolly a recessive trait that doesn’t follow. Interesting though, I’ve seen some leucistic Cardinals that are truly impressive.
re: #235 Blind Frog Belly White
Poor bastard probably won’t get laid. Hence the lack of prevalence.
Er.. He did get laid. And then hatched.
(Sorry, could not resist. Although I admit that I probably should have.)
re: #205 dangerman
Mueller’s Indictments Show How Obama FAILED To Stop Russian Interference In The 2016 Election
yesterday they were all saying he didnt even try
today he just ‘failed at it’
I’m sure had Obama told America that there was Russian interference and it appeared they were helping Trump there would have been a howl from the right/wingnuts that would have been unlike any howl from the right ever.
But go on and forget how you react to everything wingnuts. In fact look how you are reacting right now…after the fact.
EXPOSED: School Shooting Surviver Turned Activist David Hogg’s Father in FBI, Appears To Have Been Coached On Anti-Trump Lines [VIDEO] https://t.co/z2T0LgmyQ9
— Jim Hoft (@gatewaypundit) February 19, 2018
Jim - could you please return to attacking me (or really any grownup) instead of the courageous #Parkland students? Thank you. https://t.co/t8ngiLllS6
— Chelsea Clinton (@ChelseaClinton) February 20, 2018
re: #139 Shropshire Slasher
I am sure he played a lot of violent games on his Xbox, but I am not allowed to say that.
I play “a lot of violent games” on my PS4 and on my computer. What’s your irrelevant implication here? I know what I am inferring from it and it’s a pile o’ crap.
re: #242 Belafon
The GOP Nazis always find a new low to sink to. They still have not and won’t attack Russia or fetuses.
re: #242 Belafon
Now that’s a ratio I can get behind.
Gingrich: Arming teachers is the “only long-term solution” to school shootings https://t.co/EQrOGvGag7 pic.twitter.com/8GIlWG625U
— The Hill (@thehill) February 20, 2018
re: #242 Belafon
No low is too low for Dim Jim Hoft, the dumbest blogger on the Internet.
— Jeff Furlington (@FurlingtonJeff) February 20, 2018
re: #240 ckkatz
Er.. He did get laid. And then hatched.
(Sorry, could not resist. Although I admit that I probably should have.)
Oy.
re: #230 Dave In Austin
Something you have never seen before.
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re: #139 Shropshire Slasher
I am sure he played a lot of violent games on his Xbox, but I am not allowed to say that.
Next time someone walks into school with a Xbox and murders 17 people with said Xbox, then come back with your idiotic fucking talking point.
You do realize video games are present in nearly every fucking country on the entire fucking planet, and yet mass shootings by AR-15s are uniquely American. Are you really this fucking obtuse?
It shouldn’t be surprising that the right-wing would smear survivors when they had no problem smearing dead Norwegian kids.
Remember what Pamela Geller once said about the victims of Utoya??
re: #246 FormerDirtDart
No longer listening to old out of touch white guys is the only long term solution.
— Jason Stinnett (@Jnvrmind) February 20, 2018
re: #246 FormerDirtDart
Gingrich: Arming teachers is the “only long-term solution” to school shootings
Those schoolkids are going to eat him for lunch for his “more guns” solutions…
re: #250 Dr. Matt
Next time someone walks into school with a Xbox and murders 17 people with said Xbox, then come back with your idiotic fucking talking point.
You do realize video games are present in nearly every fucking country on the entire fucking planet, and yet mass shootings by AR-15s is uniquely American. Are you really this fucking obtuse?
Japan plays more video games per person than we do. It’s not the games.
re: #157 HappyWarrior
He always struck me as a genuinely kind person.
He also did some work with Jonathan Kozol. This is my favorite Kozol quote about Mr. Rogers.
“Of all the grown-ups I brought with me, the one who meant the most to the children and teachers was a man every one of you would love to spend a whole day of your lives with-Mr. Rogers,” he said.
Though Kozol was afraid some of the children might not recognize Mr. Rogers, one little boy went up to him and gave him a big hug, saying, “Welcome to my neighborhood.”
re: #243 Colère Tueur de Lapin
I play “a lot of violent games” on my PS4 and on my computer. What’s your irrelevant implication here? I know what I am inferring from it and it’s a pile o’ crap.
It’s the Slasher. To be expected. Notice how no one is actually preventing him from saying anything about violent video games. I guess it best to admit you are being shot down before getting shot down…or something. Pre-loser!
Sarah…President Trump tweeted that Obama failed to do anything about Russia, and that the Trump administration has been much harder on the Russians than the Obama administration. To recap, Obama enacted significant sanctions against Russia and expelled a number of Russian diplomats, among other things. Mr. Trump, on the other hand, argued against a bill imposing sanctions on Russia; discussed classified intelligence with Russian officials; publicly questioned the intelligence community’s findings on Russian electoral interference; has yet to condemn Russia for its interference; stated he believed Putin was telling the truth that Russia didn’t meddle in the elections; and has refused to implement the sanctions that were passed by large bipartisan majorities in Congress. In what specific ways has the Trump Administration been tougher on Russia?
re: #242 Belafon
EXPOSED: School Shooting Surviver Turned Activist David Hogg’s Father in FBI, Appears To Have Been Coached On Anti-Trump Lines [VIDEO] thegatewaypundit.com
— Jim Hoft
EXPOSED! “APPEARS”
ACTIVIST!!!!!
FBI!!!!!!!
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Piece of trivia I learned from Jeopardy about Mister Rogers’ Neighborhood: Michael Keaton was one of the floor workers on the show.
re: #231 ObserverArt
Sure???
What if he played violent video games because he was already in that mindframe.
You do know a whole heck of a lot of people play violent video games and don’t go on murder sprees, so how does that fit your assuredness?
And what video games did Hitler play or Pol Pot?
A woman I don’t know and, to the best of my knowledge, never met, is on the FRONT PAGE of the Fake News Washington Post saying I kissed her (for two minutes yet) in the lobby of Trump Tower 12 years ago. Never happened! Who would do this in a public space with live security……
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 20, 2018
Trump in 2005, on tape: “You know, I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything.” https://t.co/G26vDEy2Xb
— Kaitlan Collins (@kaitlancollins) February 20, 2018
re: #241 ObserverArt
I’m sure had Obama told America that there was Russian interference and it appeared they were helping Trump there would have been a howl from the right/wingnuts that would have been unlike any howl from the right ever.
But go on and forget how you react to everything wingnuts. In fact look how you are reacting right now…after the fact.
We know that’s the case given the threats from McConnell when the administration wanted to go public with what Russia was doing.
re: #252 Belafon
Then what do we do when a teacher shoots up the school, or a student does so with the teachers gun. Gun nuts can’t imagine giving up the weapons of war that make America so dangerous, so they can only offer insane “solutions”.
— Jeff Furlington (@FurlingtonJeff) February 20, 2018
re: #254 Belafon
Japan plays more video games per person than we do. It’s not the games.
It’s everything but the obvious, i.e., guns. The right blame lack of prayer/bible in school, abortion, the LGBT population, Hollywood, video games….but, it’s never, ever, never firearms.
Here is a funny Daily Show interview with a loyal Trump supporter whose golf course on the border would be destroyed by Trump’s wall.
re: #263 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis
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We need more guns to protect us from all the guns we have because we needed more guns to protect us from all the guns we have because…..
re: #266 Blind Frog Belly White
We need more guns to protect us from all the guns we have because we needed more guns to protect us from all the guns we have because…..
We need more guns to protect us from the guns is literally fighting with fire with fire. Literally.
re: #266 Blind Frog Belly White
We need more guns to protect us from all the guns we have because we needed more guns to protect us from all the guns we have because…..
The NRA might as well adopt the Army’s old marketing slogan “an army of one”, because that is its long term plan; that every American has their own personal arsenal as if prepared to go to war.
Jim Hoft aka @gatewaypundit. AKA #SMOTI Stupidest Man On The Internets…..
— 🦈🦈Dave’s Not Believing this Crap🦈🦈 (@DaveoutofAustin) February 20, 2018
re: #266 Blind Frog Belly White
We need more guns to protect us from all the guns we have because we needed more guns to protect us from all the guns we have because…..
That would be graphically represented by MsJ’s #197.
The MC Escher staircase to the staircase…
re: #241 ObserverArt
I’m sure had Obama told America that there was Russian interference and it appeared they were helping Trump there would have been a howl from the right/wingnuts that would have been unlike any howl from the right ever.
But go on and forget how you react to everything wingnuts. In fact look how you are reacting right now…after the fact.
Don’t forget, that barely a month after the election, President Obama hit Russia with the hardest group of sanctions since the end of the Cold War:
U.S. imposes sanctions on Russia over election interference
Last Updated Dec 29, 2016 7:23 PM EST
The Obama administration announced Thursday a new series of sanctions against Russian intelligence entities and agents they say are responsible for hacks into the Democratic National Committee and related servers.
In addition to the sanctions, 35 Russian operatives will be expelled from the country and listed as “persona non grata.” The operatives, who are based out of the Russian embassy in Washington and the Russian consulate in San Francisco, have been informed they have 72 hours to leave the United States along with their families.
A senior administration official said Thursday afternoon that the U.S. is “responding here to a pattern of Russian behavior that has been evident for some time.” The official also said that the announced punishments are “not the sum total of everything we are doing in response to Russia’s actions … as President Obama and others have said, some of those actions will be public and some of them will not.”
re: #270 ObserverArt
That would be graphically represented by MsJ’s #197.
The MC Escher staircase to the staircase…
And is equally nauseating. :-D
re: #268 Big Beautiful Door
The NRA might as well adopt the Army’s old marketing slogan “an army of one”, because that is its long term plan; that every American has their own personal arsenal as if prepared to go to war.
re: #268 Big Beautiful Door
The NRA might as well adopt the Army’s old marketing slogan “an army of one”, because that is its long term plan; that every American has their own personal arsenal as if prepared to go to war.
Before the Las Vegas shooting, I wondered why anyone would keep amassing guns, especially more and more of the same KIND of guns. You can only shoot one at a time, right?
Now I know. You buy more guns because you can only kill so many people before the barrel gets too hot.
re: #267 Dr. Matt
We need more guns to protect us from the guns is literally fighting with fire with fire. Literally.
I understand your point…but you might want to figure out another example because it can be said that wildfires, like in California, are often stopped by pre-burning areas the fire is heading to next. That could be considered fighting fire with fire.
re: #242 Belafon
EXPOSED: School Shooting Surviver Turned Activist David Hogg’s Father in FBI, Appears To Have Been Coached On Anti-Trump Lines [VIDEO] thegatewaypundit.com
— Jim Hoft
Now, if this survivor’s father had been a part of some respectable establishment, like a Russian spy or something, then that would have been fine.
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re: #276 Sir John Barron
Now, if this survivor’s father had been a part of some respectable establishment, like a Russian spy or something, then that would have been fine.
/
Didja ever think you’d see the day when Republicans would treat being in the FBI as a sign of being a Leftie?
re: #273 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis
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This is how some of these asshole visualize themselves now….
Thomas dissents from Supreme Court decision not to review California gun law https://t.co/mBbMb7N3l4
— Washington Post (@washingtonpost) February 20, 2018
Really? Then his vote should only count 3/5th as much the others justices.
— aceoaces (@aceoaces) February 20, 2018
Getting lovely messages for the local school superintendent that someone is leaving threats on the wall of one of the high schools. Probably nothing, but of course it could be another mass killer. At this point, if one of my kids was going to that school, I’d have to at least consider pulling them out.
re: #241 ObserverArt
I’m sure had Obama told America that there was Russian interference and it appeared they were helping Trump there would have been a howl from the right/wingnuts that would have been unlike any howl from the right ever.
But go on and forget how you react to everything wingnuts. In fact look how you are reacting right now…after the fact.
RIGGED
Dan Foreman won his Idaho Senate seat by >1%
Yesterday, Idaho senator tells students in his office, there to talk about women’s healthcare:
“Next time you walk into my office, you’ll be dealing with Idaho State Police.”pic.twitter.com/SBUPMG9wDU#TuesdayThoughts#ID #LD05— Holly Figueroa O’Reilly (@AynRandPaulRyan) February 20, 2018
Went to a meet and greet with Archie Parnell this morning. He’s the Dem who ran for the Mulvaney seat in the special election and lost by about 3 points (in a R+30 district.) He didn’t get much press because it was the same day as the Ossoff race that got all the national attention.
But Archie did have a good campaing and that great House of Cards takeoff commercial and got some press because of it.
politico.com
Anyway—he’s a great guy. Smart, funny, sincere. And I think he has a real chance of flipping the seat.
re: #265 Big Beautiful Door
Here is a funny Daily Show interview with a loyal Trump supporter whose golf course on the border would be destroyed by Trump’s wall.
I just googled the name under the belief that no one could be that stupid.
Good grief! Apparently, Jeremy Barnard actually exists and is General Manager of the Riverbend Golf Course. Which will get cut in half by the trump wall. I guess he believes in the “as long as they spell my name right” school of free advertising.
re: #258 Sir John Barron
EXPOSED! “APPEARS”
ACTIVIST!!!!!
FBI!!!!!!!//
To be sure. Dim Jim Hoft and his inane site might be supremely stupid, but I notice it’s a very-well-crafted stupid: his headline hits all the “right” points in order: Activist >> FBI >> Coached >> Anti-Trump. If you ignore that fact that, at bottom, it is utter wingnut bullshit, the “accusation” -however vile - holds together. Then again, anyone who would take Gateway Pundit as a serious “news” source probably isn’t likely to have a lot of logic circuits firing at the same time anyway…
re: #237 William Lewis
Or empty a bunker of out dated explosives? The last one we set rattled base HQ an PO’d the one star in charge. But oh, that was one hell of a crater we made :D
Way back in ‘83 I was on a Demo range, with a 40 lbs shot limit due to low cloud ceilings.
As we set about establishing a complex road crater we shot of eight 15 lbs shape charges to bore our holes. There had been a brief break in the clouds, so no one complaints. unfortunately, by the time we had dropped the eight 40 lbs cratering charges down the hole the ceiling had closed up, and dropped.
The NCOs in charge laughed as they decided since the charges would technically go off at separate times (fractions of a second apart) it would be OK.
The resulting shock wave literally rattled every barracks door in their frames across the entire 82 Abn Div area. At the Division HQs building, closer to the demo range than any other building in the division, coffee cups were knocked over, and the CGs office window was cracked.
BTW can anyone explain how those tricksy Chinese hoaxsters are causing the mass fantasy of mid-seventy degree weather in Kentucky in February? I have the backdoor open and shorts on.
re: #285 Jay C
To be sure. Dim Jim Hoft and his inane site might be supremely stupid, but I notice it’s a very-well-crafted stupid: his headline hits all the “right” points in order: Activist >> FBI >> Coached >> Anti-Trump. If you ignore that fact that, at bottom, it is utter wingnut bullshit, the “accusation” -however vile - holds together. Then again, anyone who would take Gateway Pundit as a serious “news” source probably isn’t likely to have a lot of logic circuits firing at the same time anyway…
There are, sadly, a lot of people who take Drudge as a “legitimate” news aggregator and therefore assume that because Drudge includes SMOTI it must have gone through some kind of vetting.
You may not want to bring up Rachel Crooks, who worked at Bayrock when you assaulted her outside their offices.
You remember Bayrock? That company founded by a soviet official from Kazakhstan & where you & Felix Sater laundered money through TrumpSoho.#TheResistance @funder— carte-blanche (@carte_blanchee) February 20, 2018
re: #199 Joe Bacon 🌹
Will she do that before or after her pole dance?
Quick.Where’s the brain bleach.
**shudder**
re: #260 Eventual Carrion
And what video games did Hitler play or Pol Pot?
Grand Theft Austria and Super Khmerio
White supremacists react to the courageous efforts of the #ParklandShooting shooting survivors with hate and anti-Semitism. This example from Occidental Dissent.
h/t @MarilynMayo7. #antisemitic #antisemitism #parklandstudents #parklandstrong #parkland #hate pic.twitter.com/QZXdXkMLK2— Mark Pitcavage (@egavactip) February 20, 2018
re: #264 Dr. Matt
It’s everything but the obvious, i.e., guns. The right blame lack of prayer/bible in school, abortion, the LGBT population, Hollywood, video games….but, it’s never, ever, never firearms.
careful how you phrase that…it is not the firearms, but the ease of access to certain firearms and ammunitions
re: #292 The Vicious Babushka
Trump’s base. It’s time to push the far-right back under the rocks they crawled out from under.
— Jeff Furlington (@FurlingtonJeff) February 20, 2018
Our librul media: More bogus “new centrism” from David Brooks: America needs this No Labels BS now less than ever
So if you want to stop school shootings it’s not enough just to vent and march. It’s necessary to let people from Red America lead the way, and to show respect to gun owners at all points. There has to be trust and respect first. Then we can strike a compromise on guns as guns, and not some sacred cross in the culture war.
FFS. What bullshit to eleven.
Don Jr. Advises President Trump After School Shooting: Don’t Go Wobbly on Guns (The Daily Beast)
As President Donald Trump surveys aides and guests at his resort at Mar-a-Lago about what to do about gun control in the wake of another school shooting, one voice close to him is advising that he not give in to those calling for stricter measures.
Donald Trump Jr., the president’s eldest son, has been assuring his dad that the right move was to stay strong on gun rights and draw a hard line on the issue that helped propel him in the 2016 election. He is among the host of people talking to the president in the wake of the massacre at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, which resulted in the death of 17 people. But the fact that he is family makes his access more personal and his guidance more trusted.
Don Jr. is a sociopath who likes to kill intelligent animals.
And you wonder why conspiracy theories can seem plausible: The Russian lawyer, Alex Van Der Zwaan, who was charged by Mueller for lying to investigators, is the son-in-law of German Khan, who ran Alfa Group for a number of years. Alfa Bank, on part of Alfa Group, had the computer that was communicating with a Trump campaign computer via a DeVos computer.
re: #296 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis
Don Jr. Advises President Trump After School Shooting: Don’t Go Wobbly on Guns (The Daily Beast)
Don Jr. is a sociopath who likes to kill intelligent animals.
Because they’re smarter than him.
re: #284 ckkatz
I just googled the name under the belief that no one could be that stupid.
Good grief! Apparently, Jeremy Barnard actually exists and is General Manager of the Riverbend Golf Course. Which will get cut in half by the trump wall. I guess he believes in the “as long as they spell my name right” school of free advertising.
I guess he assumes there will be some compensation or bailout for him…good luck.
re: #172 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Their tried-and-true tactic is failing them and they seem incapable of developing any other approach than to attack and defame. Does not work well against teenage victims of gun violence.
IT always works on Fox. Of course there no one ever disagrees with them.
re: #295 Dr. Matt
Our librul media: More bogus “new centrism” from David Brooks: America needs this No Labels BS now less than ever
FFS. What bullshit to eleven.
More of Brooks elitist bullshit disguised as concern for the opinions of red state schmos. I’m sorry but enough with this we need to respect them. How many stupid memes by red state gun owners have I seen mocking people who aren’t comfortable around guns? How many memes likening wanting sensible gun laws to the Nazis?
re: #139 Shropshire Slasher
I am sure he played a lot of violent games on his Xbox, but I am not allowed to say that.
You’re allowed to say that, but doing so implies that you think that there is some sort of causal relationship between violent video games and mass murder.
1. There are several studies that refute this argument
2. Even just basic observations make this line of reasoning fairly suspect. For example, violent video games are popular globally and no other country has this epidemic of violence.
3. And now for the personal anecdote. I have probably snuffed out nearly a trillion virtual lives (why settle for first person shooters, when you can use a stellar converter to destroy an entire planet) and have no desire to replicate even the smallest iota of this in meat world.
BREAKING: The NRA loses a Supreme Court case in California. The Court says that California may continue to use gun transfer fees to help fund efforts to track down people who acquire guns illegally.
Yes, the NRA was against California using money to stop illegal gun sales!— Ed Krassenstein (@EdKrassen) February 20, 2018
Donald Trump Jr. ‘Likes’ Conspiracy Theory About Florida Shooting Survivor’s Ex-FBI Dad (The Daily Beast)
Scumbag.
Milo Yiannopoulos Drops Lawsuit Against Simon & Schuster (The Daily Beast)
Ha! Ha!
re: #305 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis
Donald Trump Jr. ‘Likes’ Conspiracy Theory About Florida Shooting Survivor’s Ex-FBI Dad (The Daily Beast)
Scumbag.
Milo Yiannopoulos Drops Lawsuit Against Simon & Schuster (The Daily Beast)
Ha! Ha!
LOL and it’s only Tuesday
Nelson HA HA
Milo Yiannopoulos drops lawsuit against Simon & Schusterhttps://t.co/lmQDagVuUc
— The Daily Beast (@thedailybeast) February 20, 2018
re: #307 Stanley Sea
Nelson HA HA
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I will buy a Simon & Schuster book if they will countersue to recover any costs they’ve incurred because of the lawsuit.
re: #302 HappyWarrior
More of Brooks elitist bullshit disguised as concern for the opinions of red state schmos. I’m sorry but enough with this we need to respect them. How many stupid memes by red state gun owners have I seen mocking people who aren’t comfortable around guns? How many memes likening wanting sensible gun laws to the Nazis?
Firearms ownership is at an all-time high. Laws restricting/impeding ownership have been disintegrating over the last 2 decades. Red state America had their way. They won the legal battles and now the entire country has to suffer because GOP idiots are incapable of saying their were wrong.
re: #293 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
careful how you phrase that…it is not the firearms, but the ease of access to certain firearms and ammunitions
It’s the firearms.
Gun massacres, though high profile, aren’t the biggest tragedy of America’s cult of human sacrifice. It’s the thousands of deaths in ones and twos, of kids killing each other with handguns and rifles and shotguns found around the home, of law-abiding people pulling their law-abiding firearms in a fit of rage or confusion and shooting each other deliberately or by mistake in a totally law-abiding fashion.
It’s always the firearms.
re: #206 FormerDirtDart
Who amongst us has not spent a weekend late in September with a small group of soldiers trying to expend the remnants of a battalions worth of ammunition?
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Why didn’t you just toss the 20mm along the range road like the morons at Knox?
Ha - hit ‘em where it hurts:
What? Oprah insecure? I don’t think so. As a matter of fact, Oprah is richer than you are. Deal with that. Not true? Show your tax returns!
— Maxine Waters (@RepMaxineWaters) February 20, 2018
re: #288 The Vicious Babushka
There are, sadly, a lot of people who take Drudge as a “legitimate” news aggregator and therefore assume that because Drudge includes SMOTI it must have gone through some kind of vetting.
Drudge is decidedly on the “out” at Freep, unleashing a flow of pent-up homophobia. Must have been killing them to hold it in.
He’s projecting. He knows he won the Presidency with help from the Russians, and he knows the law is closing in on him. We see more stress-Tweets from him when he’s losing it.
— Jeff Furlington (@FurlingtonJeff) February 20, 2018
I have been much tougher on Russia than Obama, just look at the facts. Total Fake News!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 20, 2018
It never ceases to amaze me how successful you have been making yourself so small, petty, and banal with your tweets. Your insecurity is well deserved, as is your concern over Russia investigation. Thomas Paine was right when he said, “These are the times that try men’s souls.” https://t.co/EfaDBlYejF
— John O. Brennan (@JohnBrennan) February 20, 2018
Fuck this Gundamentalist bullshit.
We fixed the part of the Constitution that allowed slavery.
We fixed the part of the Constitution that said women couldn’t vote.
Now let’s fix the part that (some people believe) allows private citizens to own weapons capable of mass slaughter.— Randi Mayem Singer (@rmayemsinger) February 18, 2018
re: #307 Stanley Sea
Nelson HA HA
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In related news: Vox Day-loving “World’s Greatest Hispanic Sci-Fi Writer” Jon Del Arroz set up a GoFundMe to hire a lawyer for his suit against World Con and has received not a single thin dime. Possibly because normal people don’t like to give money to Nazis, and because Nazis don’t like to give money to Hispanics.
re: #285 Jay C
To be sure. Dim Jim Hoft and his inane site might be supremely stupid, but I notice it’s a very-well-crafted stupid: his headline hits all the “right” points in order: Activist >> FBI >> Coached >> Anti-Trump. If you ignore that fact that, at bottom, it is utter wingnut bullshit, the “accusation” -however vile - holds together. Then again, anyone who would take Gateway Pundit as a serious “news” source probably isn’t likely to have a lot of logic circuits firing at the same time anyway…
I’m amused by his use of “activist” as some kind of slam. What the hell does he think he is? Or the goons lining up at CPAC this week? They aren’t ‘activists’, too?
re: #6 Kragar
First there’s the promotion-blergh. Second, there’s the foreword by the execrable Eric Metaxas, the same asshat who floated a fake Bonhoeffer quote implying people should vote for Trump before the election. The asshat blocked me when I pointed it out to him.
As for reviews, even Erick son of Erick this is garbage, but it shows the depths of Evangelicalism.
weeklystandard.com
re: #313 Decatur Deb
Why didn’t you just toss the 20mm along the range road like the morons at Knox?
See, stuff like that is doomed to fail. When you dump ammo like that it’ll show up when they weigh your expended brass at turn in.
A touching cartoon. I liked this one as well ,not as teary eyed but powerful. pic.twitter.com/IL6rg7PkYX
— terri (@terror_2) February 19, 2018
re: #312 Renaissance_Man
It’s the firearms.
Gun massacres, though high profile, aren’t the biggest tragedy of America’s cult of human sacrifice. It’s the thousands of deaths in ones and twos, of kids killing each other with handguns and rifles and shotguns found around the home, of law-abiding people pulling their law-abiding firearms in a fit of rage or confusion and shooting each other deliberately or by mistake in a totally law-abiding fashion.
It’s always the firearms.
I have to disagree with you on the “always the firearms” part: it is much more a matter of the nearly unlimited access, the lack of liability laws for owners and dealers and the absence or non-enforcement of reasonable laws involving sale and handling of firearms.
You’re focused on the Uranium One fantasy, instead of the the Trump campaign’s criminal conspiracy with Russia and the money-laundering. Looks like you substituted Republican propaganda for news. Pull your head out and join us in the real world.
— Jeff Furlington (@FurlingtonJeff) February 20, 2018
re: #324 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I have to disagree with you on the “always the firearms” part: it is much more a matter of the nearly unlimited access, the lack of liability laws for owners and dealers and the absence or non-enforcement of reasonable laws involving sale and handling of firearms.
Conservatives are not responsible enough to be allowed to have guns. They have no loyalty to America and could turn on their neighbors at any time.
re: #292 The Vicious Babushka
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We had a second-degree-connection to one of the victims of the Parkland shooting brought home to us last night: one of Mrs. Jay’s friends (work friend from twenty years back, but now mainly Facebook/online) posted a notice that one of the kids killed in Florida was her cousin’s son (age 14). Hard to say much about this kind of tragedy: I wonder how many others have this sort of close connection to mass-shooting victims? More, I’m sure that we would like to admit….
re: #312 Renaissance_Man
It’s the firearms.
Gun massacres, though high profile, aren’t the biggest tragedy of America’s cult of human sacrifice. It’s the thousands of deaths in ones and twos, of kids killing each other with handguns and rifles and shotguns found around the home, of law-abiding people pulling their law-abiding firearms in a fit of rage or confusion and shooting each other deliberately or by mistake in a totally law-abiding fashion.
It’s always the firearms.
reduce not eliminate the number of gun deaths and shootings
therefore laws based on demonstrated recklessness or carelessness
use, misuse, storage, transport, negligent transfers (including ‘loans’, sales and gifts)
start with the low hanging fruit hit the obvious bad actors with jail and fines and lawsuits and most importatnly permanent loss of 2A rights.
the good actors will be more careful
Measles rates soaring in Europe as vaccination rates have dropped. This is not coincidental. I will never stop being furious at Andrew Wakefield. https://t.co/eZ5ueatF8P
— Chelsea Clinton (@ChelseaClinton) February 20, 2018
re: #321 mmmirele
First there’s the promotion-blergh. Second, there’s the foreword by the execrable Eric Metaxas, the same asshat who floated a fake Bonhoeffer quote implying people should vote for Trump before the election. The asshat blocked me when I pointed it out to him.
As for reviews, even Erick son of Erick this is garbage, but it shows the depths of Evangelicalism.
weeklystandard.com
Yeah Erickson just trashed this book. Fascinating review to read.
NEW: President Trump pushes insurance that doesn’t cover pre-existing conditions. https://t.co/093QHm20OA
— NBC News (@NBCNews) February 20, 2018
re: #317 FormerDirtDart
I have been much tougher on Russia than Obama, just look at the facts. Total Fake News!
— Donald J. Trump
Sure, Jan.
re: #326 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis
Conservatives are not responsible enough to be allowed to have guns. They have no loyalty to America and could turn on their neighbors at any time.
At one time in my life I would have claimed this was hyperbole. In 2018, not so much.
re: #332 Sir John Barron
Sure, Jan.
Tough. So tough. Believe me. “Dear Mister Putin, did you meddle in our elections? No? OK, that’s good enough for me.”
re: #299 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I guess he assumes there will be some compensation or bailout for him…good luck.
He is fighting the wall, but he would still vote for Trump, even though Trump wants to destroy his business. Go figure.
re: #324 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I have to disagree with you on the “always the firearms” part: it is much more a matter of the nearly unlimited access, the lack of liability laws for owners and dealers and the absence or non-enforcement of reasonable laws involving sale and handling of firearms.
re: #284 ckkatz
I just googled the name under the belief that no one could be that stupid.
Good grief! Apparently, Jeremy Barnard actually exists and is General Manager of the Riverbend Golf Course. Which will get cut in half by the trump wall. I guess he believes in the “as long as they spell my name right” school of free advertising.
Come golf on our 18 9.5 hole, luxury course. Beautiful wall view. Shots over the wall are self deported.
re: #335 Big Beautiful Door
He is fighting the wall, but he would still vote for Trump, even though Trump wants to destroy his business. Go figure.
Willfull stupidity and cult-driven hate is a helluva drug.
re: #333 Dr. Matt
At one time in my life I would have claimed this was hyperbole. In 2018, not so much.
I wouldn’t have said it back in the 80s. Back then I still believed they were decent people who just had different ideas on what was best for America.
re: #301 Varek Raith
Lying to the FBI is bad, mmmkay.
If I had a client, I would tell them absolutely not to talk to the FBI, because its so easy to not be totally candid. Refusing to answer questions isn’t a crime.
Boy/hood.
From @MattBors ✒ https://t.co/PuiL50fAfw pic.twitter.com/TPMt2345rh— The Nib (@thenib) February 20, 2018
re: #329 JordanRules
I realize I’m smarter than the average bear, but the fact that people buy into this bull is just disturbing.
Yet another reason for Melania to hate his orange-encased guts:
Dick. pic.twitter.com/xIq9zgHHQ1
— Bob Cesca (@bobcesca_go) February 20, 2018
Wow. He basically accepted his endorsement. Ugggh.
NYT has a white supremacist problem.
I’d go further. The NYT op ed page isn’t just improved. It has become a model, the best page anywhere for diverse topics as well as diverse viewpoints. Editor James Bennet has done wonders. https://t.co/d4u8cj8rlP
— Charles Murray (@charlesmurray) February 18, 2018
Indeed he has. Something intelligent readers of every ideological stripe are beginning to recognize. https://t.co/7IJHAeur1h
— Bret Stephens (@BretStephensNYT) February 20, 2018
A glowing endorsement from a man that owns the world’s largest collection of phrenology calipers.
— Joe Thrashnkill (@JoeThrashnkill) February 20, 2018
re: #344 Interesting Times
Yet another reason for Melania to hate his orange-encased guts:
Dick. pic.twitter.com/xIq9zgHHQ1
— Bob Cesca (@bobcesca_go) February 20, 2018
It’s not raining. He’s try to keep his hair in place
re: #345 JordanRules
Yeah….this is a sign of something bleak. And it’s impossible to pretend it’s not intentional either.
re: #345 JordanRules
Wow. He basically accepted his endorsement. Ugggh.
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Except I want my diverse viewpoints grounded in reality.
re: #346 FormerDirtDart
Was my thought as well. He really didn’t like that video showing Voldemort on the back of his head (yes I know it was used a lot in mocking the Dump - I’m just rereading the Harry Potter books with my wife - that is my excuse for rehashing that item).
re: #346 FormerDirtDart
I knew they’d figure out a way to stop the fleeing weave shots and vids! LOL
re: #348 Citizen K
Yeah….this is a sign of something bleak. And it’s impossible to pretend it’s not intentional either.
I find myself completely unsurprised to learn Bret Stephens is a white supremacist.
re: #344 Interesting Times
Yet another reason for Melania to hate his orange-encased guts:
I can’t wait to see the wingnuts defend this.
Those damn burdensome safety regulations, more unneeded bureaucratic oversight
Firefighters rescued two workers who were left dangling from the 17th floor of a skyscraper in Jacksonville, Florida after their scaffolding collapsed. https://t.co/Swwo84YcVk pic.twitter.com/DEKCucBvnF
— ABC News (@ABC) February 20, 2018
re: #344 Interesting Times
Yet another reason for Melania to hate his orange-encased guts:
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I can only imagine the therapy that kid is going to have to have to just have a shot at being normal.
re: #346 FormerDirtDart
Barron doesn’t have to hold the longest comb-over in the world down like his old-man does.
— Jeff Furlington (@FurlingtonJeff) February 20, 2018
re: #324 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I have to disagree with you on the “always the firearms” part: it is much more a matter of the nearly unlimited access, the lack of liability laws for owners and dealers and the absence or non-enforcement of reasonable laws involving sale and handling of firearms.
I don’t see how your points are distinct and separate from ‘the firearms’. All of these things proliferate firearms. All of these things massively increase the numbers and usage of firearms. Other dangerous things in society are regulated, such as cars, but there are many other things that are dangerous but have nearly unlimited access, lack of liability laws, and absence of reasonable laws involving sale, such as knives, pressure cookers, and so on. None of these things actually get used to kill people in significant numbers, as you know, because firearms are so much easier. Which is my point - it’s always the firearms.
I think what you are trying to say is that ‘the firearms’ themselves are fine, it’s just the laws we have or don’t have that allow this gundamentalist free-for-all that are the problem. I think that’s drawing a distinction that isn’t there - the belief that guns themselves are this neutral, perfectly ordinary thing that exist in a vacuum completely separate from the manner in which they are used is part of the US gun culture that has gotten us to this point. For things to change, the entire American attitude towards firearms has to change - having them, using them, buying them, carrying them, and so on. There are ways to have firearms in societies without becoming a society of human sacrifice. America’s so far from there it probably won’t get there in our lifetimes. But for it to change, we have to stop pretending that the Sacred Gun is a separate, inviolate thing that is only sullied by our mortal failings.
re: #344 Interesting Times
Yet another reason for Melania to hate his orange-encased guts:
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re: #352 scottslemmons
I find myself completely unsurprised to learn Bret Stephens is a white supremacist.
I’m more surprised the NYT editorial board has lurched this badly, this quickly. And like I said, it’s anything but unintentional.
re: #354 FormerDirtDart
Those damn burdensome safety regulations, more unneeded bureaucratic oversight
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The US Army is awarding the Medal of Heroism to three students killed in the Florida school shooting.
Alaina Petty, Peter Wang and Martin Duque were cadets in Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School’s Junior Reserve Officers’ Training Corps program https://t.co/UvO8TRunkw pic.twitter.com/KdtFG6nM7Y— CNN (@CNN) February 20, 2018
And just so darn young. https://t.co/3qN27uACsd
— Jim Sciutto (@jimsciutto) February 20, 2018
re: #361 FormerDirtDart
Now, let’s make it so no other child earns one of these by being killed.
Edited: this award is given to ROTC cadets who go above and beyond. That should not have to include being killed.
Liberals: “The Koch brothers fund some organizations and candidates we disagree with”
Conservatives: “GEORGE SOROS IS AN ALL POWERFUL OVERLORD WHO IS SOLELY RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL THINGS WE DON’T LIKE!”
Media: “Both sides”— aceoaces (@aceoaces) February 20, 2018
re: #364 Ace-o-aces
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re: #364 Ace-o-aces
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Conservatives: “LET’S KILL ALL THE JEWS AND BLACK PEOPLE!”
Liberals: “Ugh, fuck the Nazis.”
Media: “Whyyyyy must liberals be so profane?!”
re: #354 FormerDirtDart
Those damn burdensome safety regulations, more unneeded bureaucratic oversight
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You don’t get it. Without those regulations, the employees fall and die. No one wants to work for the company anymore, because they don’t have a safe working environment. Other companies voluntarily purchase safety equipment, while the other company goes out of business. Free market rules, and all for the low, low price of two dead employees. What’s not to love?
My baby Bo and his snuggle sloth. I love you, Bobo! #LoveYourPetDay pic.twitter.com/mylSGgZUI2
— MsJoanne (@MsJoanne) February 20, 2018
The 18-year old gunman who killed nine people in Munich, Germany, on Friday was a fan of first-person shooter video games, according to reports. This detail in the unspooling story of the rampage led many to worry that violent video games may be negatively affecting their own children. What is the truth?
Both the American Psychological Association and the American Academy of Pediatrics take a firm stance against children and teens playing violent video games.
The psychological group reports that more than 90% of children in the United States play video games. Among kids between the ages of 12 and 17, the number rises to 97%. More important, 85% or more of video games on the market contain some form of violence. The titles seem to say it all: “Manhunt,” “Thrill Kill,” “Gears of War” and “Mortal Kombat.” However, even the seemingly benign “Pokemon Go” requires players to go to battle.
The American Psychological Association observed in an August 2015 policy statement (PDF) that research demonstrated a link “between violent video game use and both increases in aggressive behavior … and decreases in prosocial behavior, empathy, and moral engagement.”
re: #364 Ace-o-aces
Liberals: “The Koch brothers fund some organizations and candidates we disagree with”
Conservatives: “GEORGE SOROS IS AN ALL POWERFUL OVERLORD WHO IS SOLELY RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL THINGS WE DON’T LIKE!”
Media: “Both sides”— aceoaces (@aceoaces) February 20, 2018
— aceoaces (@aceoaces) February 20, 2018
Yes, slightly rephrasing my sarcasm is a real winning argument.
re: #366 scottslemmons
Conservatives: “LET’S KILL ALL THE JEWS AND BLACK PEOPLE!”
Liberals: “Ugh, fuck the Nazis.”
Media: “Whyyyyy must liberals be so profane?!”
Conservatives: Liberals are fags and are ruining America with multiculturalism.
Also conservatives: Liberals support Islamist ideology and are responsible for the KKK because 150 years ago.
Again conservatives: But the CSA is Heritage.
Liberals: Really? Fuck you guys.
Conservatives: Nanny, the mean liberal won’t play fair!
re: #322 FormerDirtDart
See, stuff like that is doomed to fail. When you dump ammo like that it’ll show up when they weigh your expended brass at turn in.
In the 70s, Knox turned up about 3 million rounds of small-arms short. A good bit of it turned up at the Louisville PD.
George Clooney will March For Our Lives … pic.twitter.com/HlA8U2K4xW
— Lawrence O’Donnell (@Lawrence) February 20, 2018
re: #370 Shropshire Slasher
Are you fucking idiot or pretending to be one? From the 2016 article you linked to:
Whitney DeCamp, an associate professor of sociology at Western Michigan University, says the evidence points to either no relationship between playing video games and violent behavior or an “insignificant” link between the two.
[…]
He discovered that playing video games, no matter how bloody, did not predict violent behavior.
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He added that newer studies “with better methods” have typically failed to find much evidence of a connection between brutal games and even minor aggressive acts, let alone violence.
Oliver herps for me!
“I think we should arm teachers”
“Herp”
“Give teachers guns”
“Herp a derp”
“Arm teachers. So schools have more guns in them.”
“Herp a derp a derpa derp”
“This is a serious solution, why are you mocking me?”
“Herpy derpity doo herpy derp”
“Arm teachers!”
“Herp. Derp. Derp.”— Oliver Willis (@owillis) February 20, 2018
re: #376 Dr. Matt
But it doesn’t happen in other countries!
re: #376 Dr. Matt
Are you fucking idiot or pretending to be one? From the 2016 article you linked to:
He really wants to believe.
We have a Jack Thompson on our hands.
re: #378 Shropshire Slasher
But it doesn’t happen in other countries!
WTF are you rambling about? No one said shootings didn’t happen in other countries. NO ONE. FFS, keep yourself occupied and go play with an electrical outlet.
re: #370 Shropshire Slasher
re: #377 JordanRules
Oliver herps for me!
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— Jeff Furlington (@FurlingtonJeff) February 20, 2018
re: #378 Shropshire Slasher
But it doesn’t happen in other countries!
At the same rate it doesn’t, you know this.
Jesus Christ on a freaking cracker. Make these people go away. Our Revolution. SPIT!
.@OurRevolution just endorsed Dennis Kucinich for #OHGov. Kucinich has:
• Praised Trump’s “American carnage” speech
• Agreed w/Hannity that the “deep state” is out to get Trump
• Repeatedly met with & defended murderous Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assadhttps://t.co/vPzvI5Oe3w— Daily Kos Elections (@DKElections) February 20, 2018
Do we even know how frequently Cruz gamed of at all? Playing video games is really no different from how kids used to play Army or Cowboys & Indians.
re: #384 MsJ
Jesus Christ on a freaking cracker. Make these people go away. Our Revolution. SPIT!
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I feel ashamed that many years ago I once admired him. Kucinich.
re: #386 HappyWarrior
I feel ashamed that many years ago I once admired him. Kucinich.
You and me both.
re: #388 HappyWarrior
Man they must never play video games in Japan.
ONLY IN THE US!!!! …..BUT WE’RE NOT ALLOWED TO TALK ABOUT THAT!
re: #387 Dr. Matt
I’m not seeing a rational argument in favor of maintaining an unrestricted hobby that contributes to so much death.
re: #387 Dr. Matt
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But check the rates with machetes, bats, and knives! It’s eleventy billion times higher in other countries than in the US!
re: #387 Dr. Matt
Wow, look at all those countries with no mental health problems!
re: #389 MsJ
Same here.
Could you imagine still finding him credible? My goodness those folks are dense.
re: #378 Shropshire Slasher
But it doesn’t happen in other countries!
It doesn’t happen in other countries with the regularity it happens here.
Also, fuck off.
Also also, how has Charles not banned your ass yet?
re: #357 Renaissance_Man
I think that’s drawing a distinction that isn’t there - the belief that guns themselves are this neutral, perfectly ordinary thing that exist in a vacuum completely separate from the manner in which they are used is part of the US gun culture that has gotten us to this point. For things to change, the entire American attitude towards firearms has to change - having them, using them, buying them, carrying them, and so on. There are ways to have firearms in societies without becoming a society of human sacrifice. America’s so far from there it probably won’t get there in our lifetimes. But for it to change, we have to stop pretending that the Sacred Gun is a separate, inviolate thing that is only sullied by our mortal failings.
I agree with you that there is an unhealthy attitude among many Americans that a gun is some sort of magic talisman that will keep us safe from terrorists, home invaders, mass shooters and tyrants.
Look, if you want to use a gun to defend your home, I guess that is your good right. But do not pretend that you can use one to effectively and safely stop an active-shooter situation unless you have years of training and experience, good situational awareness and nerves of steel.
Guns, like anything else, need to be reasonably regulated, and liability is one of the key means through which that can be effected: those who sell, store or transfer guns illegally or improperly must be taken to task for any damage that arises from them.
Nor do I see unlimited access to massive firepower as a God-given or Constitutional right.
What a toad.
Don Jr., this morning “liked” a tweet that attacked David Hogg, one of the Parkland shooting survivors and heroes.
Don Jr. isn’t only a spoiled rich brat who prospered off of his fathers illegal money, but he’s just downright a bad person. He’s an insult to the human race— Ed Krassenstein (@EdKrassen) February 20, 2018
re: #395 JordanRules
Same here.
Could you imagine still finding him credible? My goodness those folks are dense.
The far left I have serious questions about their judgment and some of them complicity in carrying water for Putin, Assad, & others.
re: #366 scottslemmons
Conservatives: “LET’S KILL ALL THE JEWS AND BLACK PEOPLE!”
Liberals: “Ugh, fuck the Nazis.”
Media: “Whyyyyy must liberals be so profane?!”
Trump: “I’ll pay the legal fees for anybody who beats up a liberal disrupting my rally!”
Liberal: “Is it okay to punch a Nazi?”
Trump: “Liberals promote violence and intolerance!”
re: #398 DodgerFan1988
What a toad.
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re: #397 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I agree with you that there is an unhealthy attitude among many Americans that a gun is some sort of magic talisman that will keep us safe from terrorists, home invaders, mass shooters and tyrants.
Look, if you want to use a gun to defend your home, I guess that is your good right. But do not pretend that you can use one to effectively and safely stop an active-shooter situation unless you have years of training and experience, good situational awareness and nerves of steel.
Guns, like anything else, need to be reasonably regulated, and liability is one of the key means through which that can be effected: those who sell, store or transfer guns illegally or improperly must be taken to task for any damage that arises from them.
Nor do I see unlimited access to massive firepower as a God-given or Constitutional right.
No arguments here. Quoted for emphasis.
re: #318 JordanRules
Social conservatives learned a long time ago that rolling back rights, once established is a lot harder than preventing their recognition. It’s why they tend to lose on the “big” abortion question (should it be legal), why they lost on gay marriage (and a hundred other marriage issues, like no fault divorce), and on more mundane things, like access to contraception.
About the only time we have been able to roll back a pre-existing right, if you will, was prohibition. And that turned out… poorly.
The gun issue is going to be very difficult because it’s not so much an issue of the right to self-defense for a lot of people, it’s the right to have this one particular thing, consequences be damned.
If there was something, other than firearms, that had an annual death rate of nearly 4 per 100,000 Americans, you know damned well republican politicians would be grandstanding that something be done about it.
Conservative logic- it’s okay to ban a consumer for being lgbt but not okay for a store to prohibit open carry douche.
re: #403 KGxvi
The gun issue is going to be very difficult because it’s not so much an issue of the right to self-defense for a lot of people, it’s the right to have this one particular thing, consequences be damned.
It is already being framed as “anti-gun” or “pro-confiscation”. But that is not the point at all. It is about establishing effective liability and responsibility for gun use, sale and ownership, which are currently lacking in our extremely pro-gun legal and social climate.
re: #354 FormerDirtDart
Those damn burdensome safety regulations, more unneeded bureaucratic oversight
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this calls for a drink! pic.twitter.com/LcMk30olce
— talia jane (@itsa_talia) February 20, 2018
re: #388 HappyWarrior
Man they must never play video games in Japan.
IT’S THE CHRISTIAN PRAYER THEY HAVE IN THE CLASSROOMS THAT KEEP THEM SAFE
re: #406 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
It is already being framed as “anti-gun” or “pro-confiscation”. But that is not the point at all. It is about establishing effective liability and responsibility for gun use, sale and ownership, which are currently lacking in our extremely pro-gun legal and social climate.
Call it “You helped break it, you bought it.”
re: #408 Ace-o-aces
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Ok, let’s give these #ParklandSchoolShooting victims some talking points. Dogs=more regulated than guns. Sudafed=more regulated than guns. Beef =more regulated than guns. Milk=more regulated than guns. Cars=more regulated than guns. @davidhogg111 @JaclynCorin @MonteAJP23 @MtnMD pic.twitter.com/XTgwuuoATx
— Mary Prevost (@CrimeDefense) February 20, 2018
@girlsreallyrule @eugenegu @activist360 @Alyssa_Milano @AynRandPaulRyan @Shoq @realFredDoug @4everNeverTrump @williamlegate @shannonrwatts @PattyArquette #FloridaShooting #AssaultWeaponsBan @EdanClay @funder @Alt_FedEmployee #BlackLivesMatter #GunReformNow https://t.co/uB47JpgWj3
— Mary Prevost (@CrimeDefense) February 20, 2018
Also #MoreRegulatedThanGuns:
• Home insulation & ceiling tiles
• Tour guides
• Alcohol & tobacco
• Freon & Helium
• Human joint replacements
• Electric blankets
• Cosmetics
• Women’s bodies https://t.co/WtiGJ84h4N— Shoqqed That You’re Not (@Shoq) February 20, 2018
re: #378 Shropshire Slasher
But it doesn’t happen in other countries!
You had to go back a year and a half to find that.
Despite the hoopla about the ‘18 School Shootings so far this year!’ being exaggerated, the number everyone can agree on is FIVE. In 1 1/2 months.
And since the article you linked to debunks its own point, what is YOUR point?
re: #409 allegro
Reason to have a dog #346,892:
When you drop a dish of chocolate pudding on the floor to a great SPLAT! mess, go oh shit and reach for the paper towels and then think hmmmm. Hey Buddy! Want a treat? and walk away. 3 minutes later, a nice clean floor! And a happy buddy. :)
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re: #412 HappyWarrior
I saw a Vice show about his whole UC scam. He really is a pathetic wanker.
He went too far with the pedophilia comments, and since he was not running for senate, the Conservatives decided to toss him under the bus over it.
re: #413 jaunte
Also More Regulated Than Guns:
• Home insulation & ceiling tiles
• Tour guides
• Alcohol & tobacco
• Freon & Helium
• Human joint replacements
• Electric blankets
• Cosmetics
all those things not Constitutionally guaranteed!!!
AS PART OF A WELL REGULATED MILITIA
*crickets*
re: #413 jaunte
Consenting humans to research to simply fill out a questionnaire about their demographics and history of risk factors. #truestory
A woman I don’t know and, to the best of my knowledge, never met, is on the FRONT PAGE of the Fake News Washington Post saying I kissed her (for two minutes yet) in the lobby of Trump Tower 12 years ago. Never happened! Who would do this in a public space with live security……
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 20, 2018
Please, by all means, share the footage from the hallway outside the 24th floor residential elevator bank on the morning of January 11, 2006. Let’s clear this up for everyone. It’s liars like you in politics that have prompted me to run for office myself. https://t.co/ir7EEKoXRU https://t.co/GmkkZ5jUc7
— Rachel Crooks for Ohio (@RachelforOhio) February 20, 2018
re: #414 Blind Frog Belly White
You had to go back a year and a half to find that.
Despite the hoopla about the ‘18 School Shootings so far this year!’ being exaggerated, the number everyone can agree on is FIVE. In 1 1/2 months.
And since the article you linked to debunks its own point, what is YOUR point?
Five in seven weeks, and one of those weeks most schools were closed for winter break. So really, five in six weeks.
re: #417 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
“Wimmen’s bodies not in the Consitushun!”
re: #416 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
He went too far with the pedophilia comments, and since he was not running for senate, the Conservatives decided to toss him under the bus over it.
Only because he was talking about young men.
re: #422 HappyWarrior
Only because he was talking about young men.
even that is okay if you are a college sportsball coach with a winning record
Gettin’ cozy on the red line for #NoCopAcademy ! VLA 4th graders know what’s up! @chancetherapper @AssataDaughters @SCA_activists pic.twitter.com/tfmhdS1AeW
— Kara Bryant (@KBryantVLA) February 20, 2018
We’ve got 4th graders in Chicago protesting inequity and teens in Parkland advocating for safer laws. Adults need to immediately and forever shut up with our “millennial” and “younger generation” complaints. https://t.co/tiiv8VO5qn
— Shannon Ryan (@sryantribune) February 20, 2018
re: #409 allegro
Reason to have a dog #346,892:
When you drop a dish of chocolate pudding on the floor to a great SPLAT! mess, go oh shit and reach for the paper towels and then think hmmmm. Hey Buddy! Want a treat? and walk away. 3 minutes later, a nice clean floor! And a happy buddy. :)
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re: #425 JordanRules
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re: #425 JordanRules
Adults need to immediately and forever shut up with our “millennial” and “younger generation” complaints
Adults complaining about younger generations is literally as old as society itself. Seriously, Socrates complained about the youth of Athens being lazy for relying on the written word.
re: #397 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
… But do not pretend that you can use one to effectively and safely stop an active-shooter situation unless you have years of training and experience, good situational awareness and nerves of steel.
soldiers generally know what they are walking into. and when cops, swat, fire rescue go to work sort of knowing what they might have to do that day.
a guy teaching math class is not in that pre-ready/prepared frame of mind - training etc notwithstanding.
Guns, like anything else, need to be reasonably regulated, and liability is one of the key means through which that can be effected: those who sell, store or transfer guns illegally or improperly must be taken to task for any damage that arises from them.
two points - the regulated part is going to be tough. limits, registration, training, required storage, or insurance. the 2A saying what those people think it says, and the intense focus on “shall not be infringed”. now i think it is more possible than ever before - especially that #gundamentalist tweet. but that’s gonna be a big fight. and compliance and verification? wow.
as everyone knows, i think in the shorter run, liability laws are a winner. they would be muchharder to argue against. and can be written in a way that filters out the true bad actors and strongly ncourage those other risk takers and semi-careless to be way more careful. voluntarily.
i believe that 30k number will drop
re: #430 dangerman
two points - the regulated part is going to be tough. limits, registration, training, required storage, or insurance. the 2A saying what those people think it says, and the intense focus on “shall not be infringed”. now i think it is more possible than ever before - especially that #gundamentalist tweet. but that’s gonna be a big fight. and compliance and verification? wow.
WELL REGULATED is right there in the 2A and comes before the “not infringed” part
re: #429 KGxvi
Adults complaining about younger generations is literally as old as society itself. Seriously, Socrates complained about the youth of Athens being lazy for relying on the written word.
Damn kids and their cave paintings and rocks and rolling and their fires.
re: #386 HappyWarrior
I feel ashamed that many years ago I once admired him. Kucinich.
I still do. His wife is beautiful.
That’s all I ever admired him for.
btw, there are lots of hateful nitwits who need reporting here:
mediaite.com
re: #429 KGxvi
Adults complaining about younger generations is literally as old as society itself. Seriously, Socrates complained about the youth of Athens being lazy for relying on the written word.
There is the point that at a time when there was no paper and vellum was expensive, students were called upon to pay attention and memorize.
re: #396 Mattand
It doesn’t happen in other countries with the regularity it happens here.
Also, fuck off.
Also also, how has Charles not banned your ass yet?
Charles doesn’t ban people for being thick. They have to spew hate to get the boot.
re: #403 KGxvi
Social conservatives learned a long time ago that rolling back rights, once established is a lot harder than preventing their recognition. It’s why they tend to lose on the “big” abortion question (should it be legal), why they lost on gay marriage (and a hundred other marriage issues, like no fault divorce), and on more mundane things, like access to contraception.
About the only time we have been able to roll back a pre-existing right, if you will, was prohibition. And that turned out… poorly.
The gun issue is going to be very difficult because it’s not so much an issue of the right to self-defense for a lot of people, it’s the right to have this one particular thing, consequences be damned.
attack the lack consequences first. that’s the foot in the door.. no constitutional issue there.
arguing against personal responsibilty will look asinine in the face of the stoneman kids
Im trying to think of any group of people in history who more consistently attacked and abused the victims of crime - parents at Sandy Hook, Florida kids - than the twisted sociopaths who are part, though not all, of the conservative movement. I can’t.
— Kurt Eichenwald (@kurteichenwald) February 20, 2018
re: #414 Blind Frog Belly White
And since the article you linked to debunks its own point, what is YOUR point?
He pissed off librals for the win.
re: #435 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis
Charles doesn’t ban people for being thick. They have to spew hate to get the boot.
“”Some people are like Slinkies. They aren’t really good for anything, but they still bring a smile to my face when I push them down a flight of stairs.”
Now, that’s a lede
“The president spent the weekend defending himself, misrepresenting the truth and attacking others from his phone in Florida,”
WATCH: Shep Smith goes after Trump for “not once” condemning Russia over election interference https://t.co/oDmSLFmPel pic.twitter.com/4QQLtNUSQt
— The Hill (@thehill) February 20, 2018
re: #415 danarchy
I thought dogs aren’t supposed to eat chocolate?
Not enough chocolate in the pudding to harm. It’s toxic in large amounts, like when a dog eats a pound of fudge.
re: #435 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis
Charles doesn’t ban people for being thick. They have to spew hate to get the boot.
Fair point. Misrepresenting a study to push a right wing talking point, though, has to come close to pushing the line.
re: #440 FormerDirtDart
Now, that’s a lede
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re: #439 Blind Frog Belly White
“”Some people are like Slinkies. They aren’t really good for anything, but they still bring a smile to my face when I push them down a flight of stairs.”
LOL.
Before I forget, thanks for the clarification on the Jim Jefferies quote the other day.
re: #441 allegro
Not enough chocolate in the pudding to harm. It’s toxic in large amounts, like when a dog eats a pound of fudge.
Or gets into a jar of M&Ms.
I imagine that the higher the quality of the chocolate, the more toxic it is to dogs.
re: #440 FormerDirtDart
Now, that’s a lede
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I’ve seen a bit of commentary on the internet that the typical Fox News viewer does not like Smith at all. My guess is because he’s the only one over there actually telling the truth, or more accurately, telling them things they don’t want to hear.
re: #441 allegro
Not enough chocolate in the pudding to harm. It’s toxic in large amounts, like when a dog eats a pound of fudge.
A pound of fudge would make me sick.
re: #437 jaunte
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re: #444 Mattand
LOL.
Before I forget, thanks for the clarification on the Jim Jefferies quote the other day.
No sweat. I realized that without the context of the whole bit, that part might have been misinterpretable.
re: #445 Blind Frog Belly White
Or gets into a jar of M&Ms.
I imagine that the higher the quality of the chocolate, the more toxic it is to dogs.
Size of the dog matters too.
re: #450 HappyWarrior
Size of the dog matters too.
It’s not the size of the dog in the chocolate, it’s the size of the chocolate in the dog? Or something…
re: #451 KGxvi
It’s not the size of the dog in the chocolate, it’s the size of the chocolate in the dog? Or something…
I almost said that.
re: #412 HappyWarrior
I saw a Vice show about his whole UC scam. He really is a pathetic wanker.
Vice has a nasty history too, but them seem to be working to change it.
smartbrief.com
re: #453 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis
Vice has a nasty history too, but them seem to be working to change it.
smartbrief.com
Good.
re: #415 danarchy
I thought dogs aren’t supposed to eat chocolate?
It’s a body weight thing, although it’s approaching urban myth levels for me. My dogs (40-60 lb range) have eaten giant Toblerones, entire bags of like 80% cacao chocolate chips, and all sorts of chocolate goodies. Never had to so much as fart afterwards.
Great article by Cracked about how the NRA went from a responsible gun ownership club to the batshit crazy, conspiracy theories spewing, race-baiting, wingnut club we know today.
How The NRA Lost Its Mind - https://t.co/6R6tbZ5wH9 pic.twitter.com/TbdBc4MWJR
re: #437 jaunte
There isn’t a Conservative movement anymore, just a burning, polluting, hole in the ground where it wrecked itself by becoming an extremist echo-chamber.
— Jeff Furlington (@FurlingtonJeff) February 20, 2018
re: #440 FormerDirtDart
Now, that’s a lede
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The people who go to Fox for their brainwashing already switch off when Shep comes on, because facts make their heads hurt.
re: #431 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
WELL REGULATED is right there in the 2A and comes before the “not infringed” part
you got no argument with me.
the whole militia clause has basically been ignored
somehow that has to change
courts, an amendment, something sweeping far reaching and fundamental. that will be accepted.
i think re-arguing what the 2A “means”, without that sea change first, is not gonna be medium term successful in lowering teh number of gun deaths and shootings
re: #442 Mattand
Fair point. Misrepresenting a study to push a right wing talking point, though, has to come close to pushing the line.
That just provides an opportunity for the rest of us to shoot down his propaganda. Bullshit does not go unanswered here.
re: #409 allegro
Reason to have a dog #346,892:
When you drop a dish of chocolate pudding on the floor to a great SPLAT! mess, go oh shit and reach for the paper towels and then think hmmmm. Hey Buddy! Want a treat? and walk away. 3 minutes later, a nice clean floor! And a happy buddy. :)
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It IS love your pet day.
You did good.
re: #162 Amory Blaine
CNN Panel Melts Down After Jack Kingston Dismisses Parkland Students as Leftist Stooges
Hmm, I kind of alluded to this in a comment yesterday, but the protests by students appear to be going beyond mere politics- it appears to be going towards an actual generational gap. As in: we can’t trust the Grown-Ups on this: and to fair, who can blame them?
In the face of this, reactions like Mr Kingston’s above are surely going to be viewed by students as part of the problem- exactly the sort of Grown-Up attitude that failed them for far too long.
re: #86 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines
Chemistry prof daughter sent this:
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I was sort of joking going to suggest that it was a time management issue, that in the time it would take to get the least common denominator for 700 and 753, one could answer a half dozen questions. So I tried it on paper first. It took me seven seconds.
re: #415 danarchy
I thought dogs aren’t supposed to eat chocolate?
No but some milk chocolate pudding will likely be ok. Dark chocolate is a killer.
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