Video: Trump Pouts as WA Gov. Inslee Criticizes His Stupid “Arm the Teachers” Scam

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Yes, I did write that in the headline… “stupid.” Because this ridiculous, brainless, wrong-headed, backward, reckless and stupid idea has taken root in the alleged mind of our so-called president, because he sees how well the right wing knuckle-draggers of his base respond to it.

And we should never be afraid to call a truly reckless and stupid idea what it is: stupid.

Watch as this thin-skinned, overgrown and overblown man-baby crosses his arms, glares and pouts when Washington Gov. Jay Inslee departs from the usual obsequious praise the Trump-thing demands from his lessers.

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254 comments

1
Ace-o-aces  Feb 27, 2018 • 12:44:37pm

Jesus dude, if you’re going to be this hypocritical, at least wait a day in between.

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BlueGrl21  Feb 27, 2018 • 12:45:48pm

Again, there is no way in hell my husband would ever carry a gun at his high school. He would not be comfortable with other teachers and coaches carrying on his campus. This is not a discussion for him. This is not happening. He will leave public school education. Period.

I suspect the vast, vast majority of educators agree with him.

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MsJ  Feb 27, 2018 • 12:48:02pm

GA is about to screw itself out of one of its largest employers.

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Jack Burton  Feb 27, 2018 • 12:48:12pm

re: #1 Ace-o-aces

Well it’s obvious that he doesn’t know what net neutrality is, and also does not know what communism is either, so why is any of this a surprise?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 27, 2018 • 12:48:15pm

re: #2 BlueGrl21

Again, there is no way in hell my husband would ever carry a gun at his high school. He would not be comfortable with other teachers and coaches carrying on his campus. This is not a discussion for him. This is not happening. He will leave public school education. Period.

I suspect the vast, vast majority of educators agree with him.

And I’m thinking about the burden of high premiums that have to be paid for liability insurance they would also be forced to acquire in addition to the gun.

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Belafon  Feb 27, 2018 • 12:48:38pm

re: #2 BlueGrl21

Again, there is no way in hell my husband would ever carry a gun at his high school. He would not be comfortable with other teachers and coaches carrying on his campus. This is not a discussion for him. This is not happening. He will leave public school education. Period.

I suspect the vast, vast majority of educators agree with him.

If, somehow, something like this were to go national, most teachers wouldn’t. There would be a few that would. And then, if a situation broke out, they’d decide that using it would put more kids, and themselves, in danger.

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MsJ  Feb 27, 2018 • 12:50:01pm

About gotdamned time!

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Jack Burton  Feb 27, 2018 • 12:50:45pm

re: #1 Ace-o-aces

Also, since they are in an Orwellian post-facts world, there’s nothing contradictory about this (or anything) in their minds. President Dunning-Kruger says mutually exclusive bullshit in the same sentence multiple times a day.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 27, 2018 • 12:53:07pm

re: #2 BlueGrl21

Again, there is no way in hell my husband would ever carry a gun at his high school. He would not be comfortable with other teachers and coaches carrying on his campus. This is not a discussion for him. This is not happening. He will leave public school education. Period.

I suspect the vast, vast majority of educators agree with him.

Which is probably what the GOP wants: Public schools where all the classes are taught by right wing gun nut teachers.

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plansbandc  Feb 27, 2018 • 12:53:34pm

Oh look. A racist meme!

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Kragar  Feb 27, 2018 • 12:53:44pm
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Belafon  Feb 27, 2018 • 12:54:55pm

re: #10 plansbandc

Oh look. A racist meme!

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I’d definitely have to reply with the opposite: “Only one of those two got hundreds of thousands of Americans killed.”

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2018 • 12:56:54pm

re: #10 plansbandc

Oh look. A racist meme!

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Yeah pants offend you but not the symbol of a nation solely to protect slavery. Who’s a snowflake now, bitch?

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MsJ  Feb 27, 2018 • 12:57:43pm
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lawhawk  Feb 27, 2018 • 12:58:10pm

re: #7 MsJ

Without clearance, there’s no reason for him to be in the WH. Period. His role is based on access to info, and if he loses clearance, then he doesn’t belong in the WH at all.

The same applies to Ivanka. Because if she’s sharing info with Jared then she’s violating the terms of her access, and is criminally liable too.

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dangerman  Feb 27, 2018 • 12:58:43pm

re: #2 BlueGrl21

Again, there is no way in hell my husband would ever carry a gun at his high school. He would not be comfortable with other teachers and coaches carrying on his campus. This is not a discussion for him. This is not happening. He will leave public school education. Period.

I suspect the vast, vast majority of educators agree with him.

arming teachers is a distraction
something to talk about until things “cool down and get back to normal”
this distraction talking has always worked for them in the past

this time it wont

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MsJ  Feb 27, 2018 • 12:59:23pm

Is anyone surprised?

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lawhawk  Feb 27, 2018 • 12:59:32pm

re: #14 MsJ

Trump attacks political enemies by launching purely partisan political investigations that will ultimately find no wrongdoing. If they’re going to find fault, it’s that Trump surrounded himself with so many cronies that one of them was going to be under surveillance.

And yup, they did - Page at a minimum.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 27, 2018 • 12:59:35pm

re: #7 MsJ

About gotdamned time!

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Oh Gosh! How can L’il Jared pass the PDF to Putin now??????

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:00:30pm

re: #10 plansbandc

Oh look. A racist meme!

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And what a special snowflake you have to be to be offended by that.

Amused or bemused, perhaps, but offended? WTF?

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MsJ  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:00:46pm

re: #15 lawhawk

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Without clearance, there’s no reason for him to be in the WH. Period. His role is based on access to info, and if he loses clearance, then he doesn’t belong in the WH at all.

The same applies to Ivanka. Because if she’s sharing info with Jared then she’s violating the terms of her access, and is criminally liable too.

No way either of them would leave the WH. Trump is addled and they know it. Security of our country is not a top issue, hell, it isn’t any issue.

I hope they both wind up in prison. The whole damn family.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:01:56pm

re: #3 MsJ

GA is about to screw itself out of one of its largest employers.

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Fiscal responsibility!

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KGxvi  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:02:21pm

Let’s just game out how the whole “teachers with guns” thing would go…

Shooter is likely a student at the school. He also knows which teachers are armed because it’s a high school and everyone will fucking know. Shooter walks in with several guns in his bag, nobody notices or sees them because they are hidden. Shooter decides now is the time…

If he’s in the class with the armed teacher, guess who is getting shot first? The armed teacher. Meaning now, Shooter has an extra gun (YAY!). Why is the teacher getting shot first? Well, he’s busy teaching his class, probably has his back turned, and anyone who has thought about how a shooting would go would know the first people you shoot are the other people with guns.

If there’s more than one armed teacher, what are the odds that those other teachers are also high priority targets for Shooter? Very high. Now, let’s say that the other armed teacher(s) get word of Shooter and go to confront him. Shooter knows that they are coming, he has probably fortified his position, and will be waiting to ambush the armed teacher(s). Meaning… you guessed it! More dead teachers and more guns in the hands of Shooter.

More guns in the hands of Shooters means more bullets to kill other people at the school.

Explain to me again how this is a good idea?

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dangerman  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:03:08pm

re: #3 MsJ

GA is about to screw itself out of one of its largest employers.

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and this is why there is no going back:

look at how fast this stuff is blowing up in their faces

georgia - 1 day
most nra discount sponsors - 2-3 days

how fast did the young adults raise several millions of dollars
and manage to attract 1m+ twitter followers

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KGxvi  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:03:35pm

re: #13 HappyWarrior

Yeah pants offend you but not the symbol of a nationtreasonous bastards solely to protect slavery. Who’s a snowflake now, bitch?

Fixed for accuracy

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plansbandc  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:03:59pm

re: #20 Blind Frog Belly White

This came from the guy who told me that what Kathy Griffin did was illegal and she should be in prison. (Fox told him this, of course). I said it was satire and legal. He called me a Trump hater and blocked me.

Well, he was right about that anyway. :D

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MsJ  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:06:01pm

THIS!

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Belafon  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:06:06pm

re: #23 KGxvi

After the first teacher is shot, one of her students picks up her gun to go after the shooter. The police, who have just been taught they should run in, catch him with the gun and mistakenly shoot the student.

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KGxvi  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:07:16pm

re: #15 lawhawk

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Without clearance, there’s no reason for him to be in the WH. Period. His role is based on access to info, and if he loses clearance, then he doesn’t belong in the WH at all.

The same applies to Ivanka. Because if she’s sharing info with Jared then she’s violating the terms of her access, and is criminally liable too.

Reminds me of this tweet:

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ckkatz  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:08:40pm

re: #7 MsJ

Assuming the WhiteHouse is not lying… Again…

edited to note that KGxvi beat me to it… Again… :)

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KGxvi  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:08:49pm

re: #28 Belafon

After the first teacher is shot, one of her students picks up her gun to go after the shooter. The police, who have just been taught they should run in, catch him with the gun and mistakenly shoot the student.

I’m assuming the unarmed students are trying to get out of the line of fire. But it’s also likely any student going for the teacher’s gun also gets shot by the shooter. Again, end of the day, this is a recipe for more dead bodies, not fewer.

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lawhawk  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:08:58pm

re: #23 KGxvi

Teachers with backs to their class. That’s an all too common situation.

Gunman shoots the teacher A, takes out any number of fellow students, and then other armed teacher B comes in. Mass shooting has already occurred and the death toll is already high. How did this prevent the mass shooting? How did it deter the mass shooting?

It didn’t.

Even if Teacher B comes in guns blazing and kills the shooter, it’s still a mass shooting with at least one dead/injured teacher and multiple casualties.

It’s a mass shooting either way. With teachers armed, it just gives the shooter incentive to target the teachers first because they could potentially pick up additional firearms to use.

Now, say it’s an outsider adult. They too would go after teachers first, and grab their guns. Or the outside adult tries to impersonate a teacher or staff, claiming to be the good guy with the gun.

Or Teacher B from the first instance comes in and the cops come through trying to clear and secure the scene, but they don’t know Teacher B is a lawful person, and they instead shoot the Teacher B. That’s another casualty. Whoops.

There’s no situation where any of this ends well and prevents or deters a mass shooting.

It’s only luck that a mass shooting hasn’t occurred in a school where teachers are armed. We’ve already seen shootings in schools where there are armed police/security - so we already know armed security isn’t a deterrent.

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MsJ  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:09:27pm

re: #30 ckkatz

Assuming the WhiteHouse is not lying… Again…

They do nothing but lie.

I’d like to see Sanders tossed in the pokey while I am wishing and dreaming.

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dangerman  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:09:41pm

on that DCCC Advised Candidates Not To Discuss Gun Control Policy Right After Vegas Shooting thing

that was for one day - just the next day

here’s the email

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:09:47pm

re: #23 KGxvi

Let’s just game out how the whole “teachers with guns” thing would go…

Armed teachers would likely be packing handguns with maximum of, say 10 rounds.

Shooter packing AR15 with multiple 30-round magazines.

We’ve seen this movie. It’s end of the opening scene in Pulp Fiction.

Bang-Bang-Bang-Bang-Bang-Bang-click-click-click-click

Followed by…

BOOM!
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MsJ  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:10:29pm
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ObserverArt  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:10:45pm

re: #2 BlueGrl21

Again, there is no way in hell my husband would ever carry a gun at his high school. He would not be comfortable with other teachers and coaches carrying on his campus. This is not a discussion for him. This is not happening. He will leave public school education. Period.

I suspect the vast, vast majority of educators agree with him.

Upper Arlington High School and their school system is an upper income suburb just north of Ohio State University, home to many OSU higher ups, profs, etc. They held a public meeting yesterday and the superintendent said no guns in the hands of the teachers no way.

I imagine Columbus Public Schools will be making similar statements.

By the way, Groveport High School was cancelled today due to threats. They seem to know who made the threats but they need to get it settled. This has been going on for a few days.

A young Black man made threats at Brookhaven High School (Columbus Public Schools) and was tracked down. He was arraigned in court today with several charges, like inciting panic, menacing, etc.

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Belafon  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:10:51pm

re: #32 lawhawk

Yep. Gun owners seem to be willing to allow a small sacrifice in order to keep their ability to wave guns around.

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dangerman  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:11:55pm

re: #32 lawhawk

There’s no situation where any of this ends well and prevents or deters a mass shooting.

they know this.
its true they dont care
its also true that’s why it’s not serious

there are no seriously workable scenarios

its a delaying distraction (that wont work this time)

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gwangung  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:12:46pm

re: #32 lawhawk

Teachers with backs to their class. That’s an all too common situation.

Gunman shoots the teacher A, takes out any number of fellow students, and then other armed teacher B comes in. Mass shooting has already occurred and the death toll is already high. How did this prevent the mass shooting? How did it deter the mass shooting?

It didn’t.

Even if Teacher B comes in guns blazing and kills the shooter, it’s still a mass shooting with at least one dead/injured teacher and multiple casualties.

It’s a mass shooting either way. With teachers armed, it just gives the shooter incentive to target the teachers first because they could potentially pick up additional firearms to use.

Now, say it’s an outsider adult. They too would go after teachers first, and grab their guns. Or the outside adult tries to impersonate a teacher or staff, claiming to be the good guy with the gun.

Or Teacher B from the first instance comes in and the cops come through trying to clear and secure the scene, but they don’t know Teacher B is a lawful person, and they instead shoot the Teacher B. That’s another casualty. Whoops.

There’s no situation where any of this ends well and prevents or deters a mass shooting.

It’s only luck that a mass shooting hasn’t occurred in a school where teachers are armed. We’ve already seen shootings in schools where there are armed police/security - so we already know armed security isn’t a deterrent.

Evan at the most optimistic, THERE WILL STILL BE DEAD BODIES. No doubt about it. Any plan the NRA puts up means DEAD BODIES, and starts from there.

That’s a non-starter. Do a plan that does not inherently start with dead bodies.

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KGxvi  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:12:59pm

re: #32 lawhawk

Teachers with backs to their class. That’s an all too common situation.

Gunman shoots the teacher A, takes out any number of fellow students, and then other armed teacher B comes in. Mass shooting has already occurred and the death toll is already high. How did this prevent the mass shooting? How did it deter the mass shooting?

It didn’t.

Even if Teacher B comes in guns blazing and kills the shooter, it’s still a mass shooting with at least one dead/injured teacher and multiple casualties.

It’s a mass shooting either way. With teachers armed, it just gives the shooter incentive to target the teachers first because they could potentially pick up additional firearms to use.

Now, say it’s an outsider adult. They too would go after teachers first, and grab their guns. Or the outside adult tries to impersonate a teacher or staff, claiming to be the good guy with the gun.

Or Teacher B from the first instance comes in and the cops come through trying to clear and secure the scene, but they don’t know Teacher B is a lawful person, and they instead shoot the Teacher B. That’s another casualty. Whoops.

There’s no situation where any of this ends well and prevents or deters a mass shooting.

It’s only luck that a mass shooting hasn’t occurred in a school where teachers are armed. We’ve already seen shootings in schools where there are armed police/security - so we already know armed security isn’t a deterrent.

Yup. And again, your hypothetical is best case scenario. It’s much more likely that someone planning out a shooting would have considered Teacher B coming to the classroom and be read to shoot anyone who opens the door. And the door won’t provide any sort of protection because the fire code in most places will require the door to swing out.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:13:00pm

re: #38 Belafon

Yep. Gun owners seem to be willing to allow a small sacrifice in order to keep their ability to wave guns around.

Hell, even 20 small sacrifices in one day!

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Sir John Barron  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:15:49pm

re: #29 KGxvi

Reminds me of this tweet:

[Sarah Huck]Stop asking me questions about security clearances! I’m not going to answer any more questions about security clearances! Shutup! Whataboutheremails? This WH is the most secure WH ever! Everybody says so![/Sarah Huck]

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Kragar  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:16:41pm
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Dr. Matt  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:16:54pm

Man arrested after Twitter threat against former Congressman David Jolly

A 55-year-old Clearwater man faces felony charges for threatening former Congressman David Jolly on Twitter, writing “shoot David jolly shoot him.”

Gerald Patrick McGuire, who goes by Jerry McGuire on Twitter under the handle @costaricancreat, wrote the tweet on Feb. 18 and has made other charged remarks about Jolly and Scientology.

NOT the threat from Austin yesterday. The one above is from Florida.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:16:58pm

re: #44 Kragar

The best people….

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dangerman  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:17:36pm

re: #23 KGxvi

Let’s just game out how the whole “teachers with guns” thing would go…

Shooter is likely a student at the school. He also knows which teachers are armed because it’s a high school and everyone will fucking know. Shooter walks in with several guns in his bag, nobody notices or sees them because they are hidden. Shooter decides now is the time…

If he’s in the class with the armed teacher, guess who is getting shot first? The armed teacher. Meaning now, Shooter has an extra gun (YAY!). Why is the teacher getting shot first? Well, he’s busy teaching his class, probably has his back turned, and anyone who has thought about how a shooting would go would know the first people you shoot are the other people with guns.

If there’s more than one armed teacher, what are the odds that those other teachers are also high priority targets for Shooter? Very high. Now, let’s say that the other armed teacher(s) get word of Shooter and go to confront him. Shooter knows that they are coming, he has probably fortified his position, and will be waiting to ambush the armed teacher(s). Meaning… you guessed it! More dead teachers and more guns in the hands of Shooter.

More guns in the hands of Shooters means more bullets to kill other people at the school.

Explain to me again how this is a good idea?

from what i’ve heard on the radio re schools that already allow teachers to concealed carry - no one knows which teachers. they dont publicize it and i assume they are “concealed”.

that is unless you shoot yourself in the foot in the john or leave it on the roof of your car and drive away, etc

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:17:47pm
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KGxvi  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:19:10pm

re: #46 Sir John Barron

The best people….

You have to remember though, you’re dealing with someone who thinks this is the best way to decorate a Manhattan penthouse:

Even Louis XIV thinks this is over the top
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dangerman  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:19:25pm

re: #40 gwangung

Evan at the most optimistic, THERE WILL STILL BE DEAD BODIES. No doubt about it. Any plan the NRA puts up means DEAD BODIES, and starts from there.

That’s a non-starter. Do a plan that does not inherently start with dead bodies.

correct - every scenario assumes the shooter has already started shooting

it’s like trying to stop a suicide bomber after he’s detonated

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Sir John Barron  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:19:36pm

re: #43 Sir John Barron

[Sarah Huck]Stop asking me questions about security clearances! I’m not going to answer any more questions about security clearances! Shutup! Whataboutheremails? This WH is the most secure WH ever! Everybody says so![/Sarah Huck]

[Sarah Huck]Are you people watching the great Fox and Friends show every morning? Are you? Well watch Fox and Friends before you come in here asking questions! I can’t be expected to respond to your dumb questions if you aren’t watching the most important TV show that the president watches. They tell the Truth, OK? Watch it. They tell you all you need to know about this Great president and MAGA.[/Sarah Huck]

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:19:40pm

re: #47 dangerman

I’m willing to bet that everyone has figured out which teachers are carrying. They will be the ones with the biggest attitude, machoism, hot temper, etc.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:19:49pm

Threatening Manafort with the stick, while showing him the carrot vicariously.

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EPR-radar  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:20:15pm

re: #23 KGxvi

Excellent analysis, except that it’s a bit of a category error to apply logic to wingnut gun-porn masturbatory fantasies.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:20:38pm

re: #49 KGxvi

You have to remember though, you’re dealing with someone who thinks this is the best way to decorate a Manhattan penthouse:

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“Kinda like Versailles, but not so minimalist”

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KGxvi  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:21:54pm

re: #55 Blind Frog Belly White

“Kinda like Versailles, but not so minimalist”

When I look to buy a house, that’s what I’m telling the realtor that I’m looking for.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:22:22pm

re: #54 EPR-radar

Excellent analysis, except that it’s a bit of a category error to apply logic to wingnut gun-porn masturbatory fantasies.

Applying logic to ANY masturbatory fantasies is problematic.

Trust me.
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lawhawk  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:22:43pm
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SteelPH  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:22:59pm

re: #57 Blind Frog Belly White

Applying logic to ANY masturbatory fantasies is problematic.

Trust me.
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But enough about my artwork.
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dangerman  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:23:08pm

re: #52 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

I’m willing to bet that everyone has figured out which teachers are carrying. They will be the ones with the biggest attitude, machoism, hot temper, etc.

oh, an open secret im sure

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:23:09pm

re: #56 KGxvi

When I look to buy a house, that’s what I’m telling the realtor that I’m looking for.

Nothing says ‘Guilt’ like gilt!

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SteelPH  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:23:42pm

re: #58 lawhawk

I’m still trying to wrap my head around how porn is a public health hazard.

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Semper Fi  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:23:53pm

re: #49 KGxvi

You have to remember though, you’re dealing with someone who thinks this is the best way to decorate a Manhattan penthouse:

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I wonder if the bill for that penthouse decorating project has ever been paid…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:24:46pm

re: #62 SteelPH

I’m still trying to wrap my head around how porn is a public health hazard.

Landfills filling up with kleenex boxes and hand lotion bottles?

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KGxvi  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:24:49pm

re: #63 Semper Fi

I wonder if the bill for that penthouse decorating project has ever been paid…

Knowing Trump, his attitude is probably “fuck it, go ahead and put a lien on it, I’m never selling anyway.” So, to answer your question: no.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:25:31pm

re: #53 Blind Frog Belly White

Threatening Manafort with the stick, while showing him the carrot vicariously.

Witch Hunt! NO EVIDENCE says Ken Starr, who’s the greatest, he really is!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:25:53pm

re: #63 Semper Fi

I wonder if the bill for that penthouse decorating project has ever been paid…

“The work was substandard! I should sue YOU!! I’ll pay you 10 cents on the dollar!! Wanna do the decorating in my other house?”

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EPR-radar  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:26:07pm

re: #62 SteelPH

I’m still trying to wrap my head around how porn is a public health hazard.

That’s easy. Moral scolds love to have something that nearly everyone does/uses be a sin or a crime. Suppressing these sins/crimes is how the moral scolds accumulate power.

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KGxvi  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:26:15pm

re: #62 SteelPH

I’m still trying to wrap my head around how porn is a public health hazard.

To paraphrase HL Mencken: fundamentalism is the unrelenting fear that someone, somewhere is having a good time.

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Renaissance_Man  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:26:42pm

re: #62 SteelPH

I’m still trying to wrap my head around how porn is a public health hazard.

Makes you go blind?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:26:44pm

re: #66 Sir John Barron

Witch Hunt! NO EVIDENCE says Ken Starr, who’s the greatest, he really is!

No evidence says Ken Starr, who isn’t privy to the evidence.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:27:06pm

re: #70 Renaissance_Man

Makes you go blind?

Palmar hirsuitism.

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EPR-radar  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:27:25pm

re: #71 Blind Frog Belly White

No evidence says Ken Starr, who isn’t privy to the evidence.

And who is totally not a Republican Tool.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:27:26pm

re: #71 Blind Frog Belly White

No evidence says Ken Starr, who isn’t privy to the evidence.

And who apparently didn’t pay any attention to the 2016 campaign when candidate Trump colluded with Russia from the stage, out loud.

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lawhawk  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:27:58pm

re: #70 Renaissance_Man

Makes you go blind?

Must be doing something right…. I’m wearing glasses :)

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:29:12pm

re: #75 lawhawk

Must be doing something right…. I’m wearing glasses :)

How else are you supposed to see the porn?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:30:35pm

Hey, remember how Trump was gonna raise the age limit for buying guns? Yeah. About that…

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lawhawk  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:31:44pm

So, Trump’s taking Ken Starr as the last word on independent prosecutors?

The same Ken Starr who was booted from Baylor for allowing a sex harassment and abuse by the sports program to continue for years with no repercussions? That Ken Starr?

The same one who when failing to find any actual crimes, decided to go after Clinton for lying about consensual sexual relations with a staffer and turned those into perjury and obstruction of justice?

Yeah, he’s really qualified to talk here.

Let’s compare that to Mueller, who in less time has gotten 5 plea bargains, multiple indictments, and charges including tax fraud, conspiracy against the US, and money laundering.

We haven’t even gotten into the main course portion of the investigation as Mueller’s methodically running up the chain of command from Papadopoulos and Gates to Manafort, Flynn, and heading upstream to Kushner and the Trumps. Oh, and Pence isn’t going to escape scrutiny either.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:31:46pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:32:32pm

Now I’m envisioning Trump in pajamas and bathrobe, smoking a pipe a la Hugh Hefner….

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Kragar  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:34:56pm
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Kragar  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:37:03pm
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KGxvi  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:37:48pm

re: #78 lawhawk

The same one who when failing to find any actual crimes, decided to go after Clinton for lying about consensual sexual relations with a staffer and turned those into perjury and obstruction of justice?

Not for nothing, but if the Clinton affair happened today, it would probably mean the end of a presidency. The power dynamic between POTUS and any staffer is such that I’m not sure you can call any sexual relationship consensual. Clinton was somewhat lucky in that we as a society hadn’t really thought about those kind of things at the time. Now, we have two decades worth of case law on things like sexual harassment in the work place and hostile work environments.

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Skip Intro  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:38:00pm

re: #7 MsJ

About gotdamned time!

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Downgraded but not cut off. He still will have secrets to sell.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:40:14pm
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KGxvi  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:40:27pm

re: #82 Kragar

Is there any first world country that doesn’t have legal abortion? Ireland, maybe?

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Alephnaught  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:40:48pm

I can’t be the only person who looks at pictures of Jared Kushner or Don Jr and thinks of the character “Son of Mine” from the Doctor Who story “Human Nature/Family of Blood”, can I?

Son of Mine/Baines/Jared Kushner/Don Trump Jr/?
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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:40:58pm

re: #83 KGxvi

Not for nothing, but if the Clinton affair happened today, it would probably mean the end of a any other presidency. The power dynamic between POTUS and any staffer is such that I’m not sure you can call any sexual relationship consensual. Clinton was somewhat lucky in that we as a society hadn’t really thought about those kind of things at the time. Now, we have two decades worth of case law on things like sexual harassment in the work place and hostile work environments.

It would not end this Presidency, even if that fat fucker boned Ivanka live on TV.

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Kragar  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:41:32pm

re: #86 KGxvi

Is there any first world country that doesn’t have legal abortion? Ireland, maybe?

Technically allowed in cases to save the life of the mother

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lawhawk  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:42:03pm

re: #82 Kragar

We’ll make it impossible for all but the rich to get abortions.*

We’ll make it impossible for all but the rich to have health care.

If you start by making it harder to get health coverage, then you’ll have a harder time getting abortions.

The theocrats are pushing to make abortion illegal and are using TRAP laws and every means at their disposal to make it harder for all but the rich to get health coverage including abortions. They’re pushing the 20 week threshold down to 16 weeks and earlier, even though many women don’t even know they’re pregnant until around that time.

The GOP lies about fetal pain and that life starts at conception, and that the fetus/embryo/zygote are more important than the woman’s health or the woman’s decision.

This is a GOP so pro-life that they cut 9 million people from health coverage thanks to Trump’s tax scam, and would have gutted coverage from 40 million more if they passed Trumpcare.

Trump/GOP are so pro life they refuse to stop gun violence, let alone study it (they’re scared of facts and logic that way).

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KGxvi  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:42:53pm

re: #89 Kragar

Technically allowed in cases to save the life of the mother

Wikipedia also tells me that they allow travel for abortion (meaning until Brexit, they could go to the UK), and that they are actually moving to repeal the constitutional amendment that bans abortion.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:44:38pm

re: #85 Charles Johnson

double gah

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lawhawk  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:44:56pm

re: #83 KGxvi

Then again, if it wasn’t considered sexual harassment (and there was consent) and the president answered truthfully about it, then there wouldn’t have been the perjury in the first place, and the attempt to cover up the lie (the obstruction).

Clinton was trying to be too clever by half to cover up his affair.

Trump would blurt out that he fucked her, and what are you going to do about it.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:45:36pm

re: #82 Kragar

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Stupid since it wasn’t exactly non existent pre Roe.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:45:58pm

re: #10 plansbandc

Oh look. A racist meme!

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A long, long time ago, there was a President named Barack Obama. He appeared on a TV show (not sure which one, I think it was BET) where the host asked him about the fashion of “saggy pants.” He said he didn’t like it, and Michelle didn’t like it and his Mom-mom (MIL) didn’t like it, and he said “PULL UP YOUR PANTS, AMERICA!”

After that, the wingnuts made fun of him for wearing “Mom jeans”

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KGxvi  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:48:32pm

re: #93 lawhawk

Then again, if it wasn’t considered sexual harassment (and there was consent) and the president answered truthfully about it, then there wouldn’t have been the perjury in the first place, and the attempt to cover up the lie (the obstruction).

Clinton was trying to be too clever by half to cover up his affair.

Trump would blurt out that he fucked her, and what are you going to do about it.

Very true about Clinton trying to be too clever by half.

As for consent, that’s a tricky question. If she had said no, would there have been consequences? Would she have been fired? Would she have been given the more difficult/menial tasks? I’ve worked a lot of employment law cases, it’s never quite so easy as “we were consenting.”

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Ace-o-aces  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:49:55pm

re: #85 Charles Johnson

Gah

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After watching that video…are we absolutely sure that Chuck is real and not some kind of long term, Andy Kaufman like piece of performance art?

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Kragar  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:51:53pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:54:17pm
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Ace-o-aces  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:55:19pm
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EPR-radar  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:57:30pm

re: #81 Kragar

NRA: “From our cold dead hands!”

Me: “You can either be alive without your precious guns or dead without your precious guns. Your choice.”

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ObserverArt  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:57:33pm

David Fahrenthold is now a political analyst for MSNBC. Just announced on Nicole Wallace’s show. He is on talking about the Trump Hotel fued going on in Panama.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:58:49pm

I think we had guessed this, but fun stuff—his time in the barrel coming? ETA: I just finally read to the end. Probably much ado about nothing, unfortunately.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:59:12pm
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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Feb 27, 2018 • 1:59:29pm

re: #85 Charles Johnson

Gah

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Trying to be “conveniently” out of the country and out of contact from civilization for several weeks right around when he’s got an upcoming court date for that defamation lawsuit filed against him for his libelous activity regarding Charlottesville? Good luck with that Chuckie.

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EPR-radar  Feb 27, 2018 • 2:00:02pm

re: #89 Kragar

Technically allowed in cases to save the life of the mother

“technically” being the key word here, as in the judicial murder of Sativa Halappanavar.

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Belafon  Feb 27, 2018 • 2:03:28pm

re: #102 ObserverArt

David Fahrenthold is now a political analyst for MSNBC. Just announced on Nicole Wallace’s show. He is on talking about the Trump Hotel fued going on in Panama.

They didn’t fill the position with a conservative?

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allegro  Feb 27, 2018 • 2:07:24pm

re: #107 Belafon

They didn’t fill the position with a conservative?

Apparently not. Looks like someone competent.

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majii  Feb 27, 2018 • 2:07:48pm

re: #11 Kragar

“Kushner has security clearance downgraded: report”

The little snot and his wife have no business even having jobs in the WH in the first place since neither has any experience in working in government. If PBO had placed any member of his family, or a friend, in a WH position who couldn’t get a permanent security clearance, Fox News and RW media would have never stopped talking about it until the person was booted out of the WH.

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MsJ  Feb 27, 2018 • 2:12:39pm

Weird. Yeah, it’s weird. It’s also fucking treasonous.

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EPR-radar  Feb 27, 2018 • 2:12:58pm

re: #109 majii

“Kushner has security clearance downgraded: report”

The little snot and his wife have no business even having jobs in the WH in the first place since neither has any experience in working in government. If PBO had placed any member of his family, or a friend, in a WH position who couldn’t get a permanent security clearance, Fox News and RW media would have never stopped talking about it until the person was booted out of the WH.

Fixed that for you. Blatant nepotism by a (D) president would become one of the Eternal Wingnut Talking Points.

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KGxvi  Feb 27, 2018 • 2:16:37pm

re: #110 MsJ

Weird. Yeah, it’s weird. It’s also fucking treasonous.

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The bookscave paintings detailing the incompetence and moral/legal turpitude of this administration are going to be something to behold.

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Varek Raith  Feb 27, 2018 • 2:17:59pm

re: #35 Blind Frog Belly White

Armed teachers would likely be packing handguns with maximum of, say 10 rounds.

Shooter packing AR15 with multiple 30-round magazines.

We’ve seen this movie. It’s end of the opening scene in Pulp Fiction.

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“Aw man, I shot Marvin in the face.”

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 27, 2018 • 2:20:27pm

re: #47 dangerman

from what i’ve heard on the radio re schools that already allow teachers to concealed carry - no one knows which teachers. they dont publicize it and i assume they are “concealed”.

that is unless you shoot yourself in the foot in the john or leave it on the roof of your car and drive away, etc

Where, exactly, are they going to carry these sekrit weapons so no-one knows they have them? Up their rectums?

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Feb 27, 2018 • 2:20:55pm

re: #85 Charles Johnson

Gah

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Oh for fuck’s sake.

I’m calling my friend who is now a producer. Will ask that they give CCJ his shot at fame. Someplace where there are venemous insects and lots of the type of people (read: Brown People) who cause CCJ to lose control of his bowels.

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Mike Lamb  Feb 27, 2018 • 2:23:18pm

re: #111 EPR-radar

Fixed that for you. Blatant nepotism by a (D) president would become one of the Eternal Wingnut Talking Points.

It was a fucking scandal when HRC was in charge of healthcare reform in the 90’s.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 27, 2018 • 2:24:46pm

re: #114 Big Beautiful Door

Where, exactly, are they going to carry these sekrit weapons so no-one knows they have them? Up their rectums?

[punchline: rectum? Damn near killed ‘em!]

Sorry. Proceed.

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MsJ  Feb 27, 2018 • 2:24:58pm

Are we winning yet? I don’t know about you, but I am tired of all this “winning”.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Feb 27, 2018 • 2:25:13pm
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Mike Lamb  Feb 27, 2018 • 2:26:10pm

Also, re: arming teachers, there was tweet posted after Trump first posited arming teachers saying that the proposal was not meant as a real response, and that we shouldn’t engage in discussing the issue because it detracted from focusing on real reforms. I understood the rationale, but thought the idea was a mistake. The GOP is that unhinged now. It will be treated as a serious proposal (see e.g. Lindsay Graham; the Florida Senate). We’re no longer in a political climate where insane ideas can be dismissed for rational reasons.

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dangerman  Feb 27, 2018 • 2:26:43pm

re: #114 Big Beautiful Door

Where, exactly, are they going to carry these sekrit weapons so no-one knows they have them? Up their rectums?

hey - i have no idea because the guy they were interviewing (from a texas school district) wouldnt say who or how they were doing it. ;-)

he did say they received “special” training. so they have to be pros right, and thought about this stuff. it cant be like a teacher just reached up for something and the gun showed from under his jacket. no. they’re gonna take out a shooter. these folks are pros.

wait, did my tone just change?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2018 • 2:27:10pm

re: #119 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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We warned these assholes.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 27, 2018 • 2:27:31pm

re: #62 SteelPH

I’m still trying to wrap my head around how porn is a public health hazard.

Just ask any Southern Baptist preacher. It supposedly turns men into hopeless sex addicts, results in broken homes, child abuse, human trafficking, the spread of STDs, sexual assault and makes young men so jaded they are incapable of monogamous, mutually respectful relationships.

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gocart mozart  Feb 27, 2018 • 2:28:33pm

This is how you block a troll with style

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dangerman  Feb 27, 2018 • 2:28:48pm

re: #117 Barefoot Grin

[punchline: rectum? Damn near killed ‘em!]

Sorry. Proceed.

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dangerman  Feb 27, 2018 • 2:29:43pm

re: #118 MsJ

Are we winning yet? I don’t know about you, but I am tired of all this “winning”.

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that’s no problem. american corn is for americans now

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dangerman  Feb 27, 2018 • 2:30:32pm

re: #119 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Officials in at least 4 countries (UAE, China, Israel, Mexico) have privately discussed ways they can manipulate Jared Kushner by taking advantage of his complex biz arrangements, financial difficulties and lack of foreign policy experience, WaPo reports.

only 4?

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KGxvi  Feb 27, 2018 • 2:30:56pm

re: #119 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Going to go out on a limb and guess it’s not just those four (and for fuck’s sake, three of them are our allies! Well, at least until Trump completely pisses off Mexico).

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MsJ  Feb 27, 2018 • 2:31:32pm
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KGxvi  Feb 27, 2018 • 2:31:51pm

re: #126 dangerman

that’s no problem. american corn is for americans now

What’s more troubling is that it’s probably going to be more difficult to get Mexican Coca-Cola in the states now. Which means more high fructose corn syrup.

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dangerman  Feb 27, 2018 • 2:32:30pm

re: #123 Big Beautiful Door

Just ask any Southern Baptist preacher. It supposedly turns men into hopeless sex addicts, results in broken homes, child abuse, human trafficking, the spread of STDs, sexual assault and makes young men so jaded they are incapable of monogamous, mutually respectful relationships.

i wonder what roy moore’s position on the subject is

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KGxvi  Feb 27, 2018 • 2:32:36pm

re: #129 MsJ

That’s a poorly written tweet. Is Kushner leaving in 2 months, or the communications official?

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Charles Johnson  Feb 27, 2018 • 2:33:34pm

re: #132 KGxvi

That’s a poorly written tweet. Is Kushner leaving in 2 months, or the communications official?

The comms official - I know, it reads like it might be Kushner. No such luck.

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gwangung  Feb 27, 2018 • 2:33:56pm

re: #129 MsJ

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Now that he’s sucked out as much money as he can to keep his other businesses afloat….

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dangerman  Feb 27, 2018 • 2:34:17pm

re: #130 KGxvi

What’s more troubling is that it’s probably going to be more difficult to get Mexican Coca-Cola in the states now. Which means more high fructose corn syrup.

unintended tentacles

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KGxvi  Feb 27, 2018 • 2:34:21pm

re: #133 Charles Johnson

The comms official - I know, it reads like it might be Kushner. No such luck.

Yeah, I clicked through, which I suppose is what they wanted. But sweet baby thor, you’d think they’d write it a bit more clearly.

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MsJ  Feb 27, 2018 • 2:36:03pm

LOL

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Feb 27, 2018 • 2:36:25pm

Wow, now that might cause Cagle quite a bit of discomfort at the ballot box

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retired cynic  Feb 27, 2018 • 2:36:50pm

re: #130 KGxvi

What’s more troubling is that it’s probably going to be more difficult to get Mexican Coca-Cola in the states now. Which means more high fructose corn syrup.

I drink Coke Zero. Tastes cleaner to me than drinking the sugar or HFCS. And have actually switched largely to Pellegrino sparkling mineral water, and use the Coke Zero just on some occasions. That’s supposed to make me feel better. Result: ???

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2018 • 2:38:08pm

re: #138 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Wow, now that might cause Cagle quite a bit of discomfort at the ballot box

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Good. He’s free to court the NRA but other businesses can tell his state to fo.

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Romantic Heretic  Feb 27, 2018 • 2:40:56pm

re: #23 KGxvi

Explain to me again how this is a good idea?

The Tree of Liberty must be watered with blood!

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 27, 2018 • 2:43:30pm

re: #129 MsJ

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Looks like Kelly is winning his war with Jarvanka. Whoops, misunderstood the tweet; nevermind.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 27, 2018 • 2:45:29pm

re: #136 KGxvi

Yeah, I clicked through, which I suppose is what they wanted. But sweet baby thor, you’d think they’d write it a bit more clearly.

If they had, you wouldn’t have clicked through; it was intentional.

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MsJ  Feb 27, 2018 • 2:47:09pm

Are you fucking kidding me? Look at this shit. Click through the photos.

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MsJ  Feb 27, 2018 • 2:47:49pm

re: #142 Big Beautiful Door

Looks like Kelly is winning his war with Jarvanka. Whoops, misunderstood the tweet; nevermind.

You’re not alone.

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MsJ  Feb 27, 2018 • 2:52:49pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2018 • 2:54:02pm

re: #144 MsJ

Are you fucking kidding me? Look at this shit. Click through the photos.

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And he’s running for Congress.

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TedStriker  Feb 27, 2018 • 2:54:09pm

re: #75 lawhawk

Must be doing something right…. I’m wearing glasses :)

Can you braid the hair on your palms?

/

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2018 • 2:55:45pm

Btw Levi Sanders proves white privilege exists when he speaks for the working class despite having a father as a member of Congress more than half his lifetime.

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KGxvi  Feb 27, 2018 • 2:56:20pm

re: #139 retired cynic

I drink Coke Zero. Tastes cleaner to me than drinking the sugar or HFCS. And have actually switched largely to Pellegrino sparkling mineral water, and use the Coke Zero just on some occasions. That’s supposed to make me feel better. Result: ???

I honestly prefer Dr Pepper, and can’t seem to find real sugar versions of that anywhere. I should switch to mineral water, but I do love caffeine and can only drink so much coffee.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 27, 2018 • 2:56:31pm

I think we may not be fully grasping the NRA position on issues. Hunting has fallen out of favor as a sport. If law enforcement is successful at reducing violent crime (witness NYC), then even fewer people would be interested in purchasing weapons.
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The NRA goal is to increase violent crime and mass shootings and thereby increase anxiety among the public. If you don’t feel secure, you may be persuaded that a gun would provide at least some protection in a confrontation — so more gun sales. This is a Machiavellian plot to increase gun sales, even if the result is the destruction of civility in this country

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Romantic Heretic  Feb 27, 2018 • 2:56:39pm

re: #131 dangerman

Yes, please.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2018 • 2:57:02pm

re: #146 MsJ

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A much more likable example than Sanders’ hypocrite of a son.

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sagehen  Feb 27, 2018 • 2:57:12pm

re: #96 KGxvi

Very true about Clinton trying to be too clever by half.

As for consent, that’s a tricky question. If she had said no, would there have been consequences? Would she have been fired? Would she have been given the more difficult/menial tasks? I’ve worked a lot of employment law cases, it’s never quite so easy as “we were consenting.”

She was way more than consenting; she was the instigator. She’d told people, before she even went to DC, that it was her intention.

He still should have known to refuse.

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majii  Feb 27, 2018 • 2:57:50pm

re: #140 HappyWarrior

re: #138 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Wow, now that might cause Cagle quite a bit of discomfort at the ballot box

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Good. He’s free to court the NRA but other businesses can tell his state to fo.

@FDD & HW: After living in GA for more than 60 years, I understand the mindset of GA’s GOP voters. They will vote for Cagle. First, because he has the [R] beside his name, and second, because to them, his comments about Delta and the NRA will be perceived by them as indicative of his “bravery in defending conservative values.” If Delta leaves and Bezos decides to not built a distribution plant here, it’ll be the Parkland students’ and the Democrat Party’s fault.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Feb 27, 2018 • 3:00:03pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2018 • 3:00:36pm

re: #156 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Yeah that means he was a leftist.//

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2018 • 3:01:08pm

re: #155 majii

re: #138 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Wow, now that might cause Cagle quite a bit of discomfort at the ballot box

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Good. He’s free to court the NRA but other businesses can tell his state to fo.

@FDD & HW: After living in GA for more than 60 years, I understand the mindset of GA’s GOP voters. They will vote for Cagle. First, because he has the [R] beside his name, and second, because to them, his comments about Delta and the NRA will be perceived by them as indicative of his “bravery in defending conservative values.” If Delta leaves and Bezos decides to not built a distribution plant here, it’ll be the Parkland students’ and the Democrat Party’s fault.

Any good Dems running?

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Dr. Matt  Feb 27, 2018 • 3:01:47pm

re: #85 Charles Johnson

Gah

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What’s up with the Rage Furby squinty eyes?

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MsJ  Feb 27, 2018 • 3:02:31pm
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KGxvi  Feb 27, 2018 • 3:02:51pm

re: #151 Hecuba’s daughter

I think we may not be fully grasping the NRA position on issues. Hunting has fallen out of favor as a sport. If law enforcement is successful at reducing violent crime (witness NYC), then even fewer people would be interested in purchasing weapons.
.
The NRA goal is to increase violent crime and mass shootings and thereby increase anxiety among the public. If you don’t feel secure, you may be persuaded that a gun would provide at least some protection in a confrontation — so more gun sales. This is a Machiavellian plot to increase gun sales, even if the result is the destruction of civility in this country

A lot of people have been pointing out that the NRA morphed from a hunting/shooting enthusiast group to a lobbying organization for gun manufacturers within the last 15 years or so.

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TedStriker  Feb 27, 2018 • 3:04:48pm

re: #155 majii

re: #138 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Wow, now that might cause Cagle quite a bit of discomfort at the ballot box

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Good. He’s free to court the NRA but other businesses can tell his state to fo.

@FDD & HW: After living in GA for more than 60 years, I understand the mindset of GA’s GOP voters. They will vote for Cagle. First, because he has the [R] beside his name, and second, because to them, his comments about Delta and the NRA will be perceived by them as indicative of his “bravery in defending conservative values.” If Delta leaves and Bezos decides to not built a distribution plant here, it’ll be the Parkland students’ and the Democrat Party’s fault.

Amazon’s not placing a distribution center, they’re looking to build a second headquarters campus, out away from Seattle, with a projected 40-50,000 employees.

Amazon HQ2

There’s going to be a lot of people in GA majorly pissed off if Cagle and the GA Senate, in addition to perhaps giving Delta a reason to consider moving their HQ (and its thousands of corporate employees), also torpedoes GA’s chances at landing HQ2.

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Jay C  Feb 27, 2018 • 3:05:00pm

re: #126 dangerman

that’s no problem. american corn is for americans now

Yeah, swell. An unmitigated positive, unless you factor in a few minor details like:

1. Corn (as well as other bulk grains) are one of this country’s few remaining export commodities.
2. Big Ag (who produce all that bulk) make enormous fortunes growing, processing and selling it abroad by the megaton (21st-Century “farming” in America isn’t all the Grant Wood/Real McCoys “family” biz anymore: lo siento, Pepino)
3. Any policy that significantly cuts into agricultural exports (i.e. profits) - whether it’s tariff barriers, or simply fears that the Trump Admin is going to fuck things up, is going to produce surpluses at home, which:
3a) will theoretically lower prices until Big Ag adjusts its output to accommodate lower demand (lower farm income, too, but never mind)
3b) lead Big Ag to demand subsidies from the government (i.e. corporate welfare on a vast scale) to buffer the effects of 3a).
3c) have little/no effect on food prices at the grocery store, as producers/processors/distributors/retailers will simply hold prices at current levels to maintain profit margins.
3d) lead to more farm-country bankruptcies as smaller producers (those storied “family farms”) find they can’t compete in face of lowered demand. For which, of course, Republicans will blame Obama, Democrats, liberals, feminists, Hollywood movies, video games, “gun-grabbers”, etc., etc.

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MsJ  Feb 27, 2018 • 3:05:02pm

Three senior intelligence officials told NBC News that the intelligence community believed the states as of January 2017 were Alaska, Arizona, California, Florida, Illinois, Texas and Wisconsin.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 27, 2018 • 3:05:08pm

And wasn’t Todd Kincannon the first “famous” person to be permanently banned from twitter?

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MsJ  Feb 27, 2018 • 3:07:12pm

re: #165 Dr. Matt

And wasn’t Todd Kincannon the first “famous” person to be permanently banned from twitter?

Isn’t he the guy who held a gun to his wife’s head? A state republican chairman?

I so love the family values crowd.

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majii  Feb 27, 2018 • 3:07:23pm

re: #158 HappyWarrior

“Any good Dems running?”

Stacey Abrams. She was House Minority Leader in the general assembly here. She’s also a graduate of Yale Law. I think she’d be a good governor. The two major negatives I think she faces here in GA are being female and being black, and it’s a damn shame.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2018 • 3:07:44pm

re: #166 MsJ

Isn’t he the guy who held a gun to his wife’s head? A state republican chairman?

I so love the family values crowd.

That sounds right to me. He was SC GOP IIRC.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 27, 2018 • 3:07:57pm

re: #166 MsJ

Isn’t he the guy who held a gun to his wife’s head? A state republican chairman?

I so love the family values crowd.

And was disbarred. Perfect person to be part of the Trump Regime.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2018 • 3:08:17pm

re: #167 majii

“Any good Dems running?”

Stacey Abrams. She was House Minority Leader in the general assembly here. She’s also a graduate of Yale Law. I think she’d be a good governor. The two major negatives I think she faces here in GA are being female and being black, and it’s a damn shame.

Oh yeah, I did hear about her. Sounds like an impressive lady.

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MsJ  Feb 27, 2018 • 3:08:45pm

I still cannot wrap my head around Rubin, Krystal, et al, these days. It just gives me a headache.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 27, 2018 • 3:10:32pm

re: #89 Kragar

Technically allowed in cases to save the life of the mother

How’d that work out for Savita Halappanavar?

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bill d. (b.d.)  Feb 27, 2018 • 3:10:43pm

re: #165 Dr. Matt

And wasn’t Todd Kincannon the first “famous” person to be permanently banned from twitter?

And George Zimmerman also got kicked off before Rage Furby.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 27, 2018 • 3:11:34pm

re: #118 MsJ

Are we winning yet? I don’t know about you, but I am tired of all this “winning”.

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It’s almost as if international trade is more complex than “I win/you lose”, and our trading partners have other options.

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majii  Feb 27, 2018 • 3:11:35pm

re: #162 TedStriker

“Amazon’s not placing a distribution center, they’re looking to build a second headquarters campus, out away from Seattle, with a projected 40-50,000 employees.”

Thanks for the clarification. If Amazon decides to not build a second headquarters campus here, that’s even more of a loss for GA, all thanks to Casey Cagle’s RW authoritarian mindset along with the assistance of the GOP in the General Assembly.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2018 • 3:13:18pm

re: #171 MsJ

I still cannot wrap my head around Rubin, Krystal, et al, these days. It just gives me a headache.

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Mueller is what Republicans think they are: patriotic, thoughtful, family oriented. Trump is what they really are.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 27, 2018 • 3:13:35pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2018 • 3:14:20pm

re: #177 Blind Frog Belly White

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lawhawk  Feb 27, 2018 • 3:14:22pm

LMAO.

Perillo Tours, who sells luxury tours to Italy, Europe, and beyond, has left a message anyone flying would possibly notice:

A big Dump Trump sign on the roof of the building the company owns.

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sagehen  Feb 27, 2018 • 3:15:27pm

re: #161 KGxvi

A lot of people have been pointing out that the NRA morphed from a hunting/shooting enthusiast group to a lobbying organization for gun manufacturers within the last 15 years or so.

That’s why the NRA doesn’t care about environmental causes anymore. (LEFTIST OMG CLIMATE CHANGE)

Deer hunters and duck hunters care deeply about habitat preservation. People who hunt snowshoe rabbits are well aware that they’ve got a shorter season, and further north, than they remember from when grandpa first took them.

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KGxvi  Feb 27, 2018 • 3:15:48pm

re: #177 Blind Frog Belly White

This is some really Game of Thrones shit. Just no Starks or Martells.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 27, 2018 • 3:16:06pm

re: #159 Dr. Matt

What’s up with the Rage Furby squinty eyes?

Furby was probably drunk.

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ObserverArt  Feb 27, 2018 • 3:17:01pm

re: #173 bill d. (b.d.)

And George Zimmerman also got kicked off before Rage Furby.

Rage is just doing the Trump thing.

You just make the claim, tickle the fancy of your supporters and let others fight it out over the truth.

Example: (Trump says the tax bill) “is going to cost me a fortune, this thing — believe me. Believe me, this is not good for me.”

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MsJ  Feb 27, 2018 • 3:18:05pm

re: #176 HappyWarrior

I stolded that. It was perfect.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 27, 2018 • 3:19:20pm

The Dow closed nearly 300 points down. What happened?

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majii  Feb 27, 2018 • 3:20:54pm

re: #178 HappyWarrior

“re: #177 Blind Frog Belly White & HW: To be totally honest, I don’t give a sh*t about what happens to any of them. I want them all gone ASAP, starting at the top with the Talking Yam.

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ObserverArt  Feb 27, 2018 • 3:20:59pm

re: #175 majii

“Amazon’s not placing a distribution center, they’re looking to build a second headquarters campus, out away from Seattle, with a projected 40-50,000 employees.”

Thanks for the clarification. If Amazon decides to not build a second headquarters campus here, that’s even more of a loss for GA, all thanks to Casey Cagle’s RW authoritarianism mindset along with the assistance of the GOP in the General Assembly.

20 finalists still in the running. Columbus, where I live is one. You can be sure our mayor and big businessmen are camped out at Amazon HQs just like the other 18 cities not named Atlanta. I bet all of them are mentioning the political climate in Georgia.

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Eventual Carrion  Feb 27, 2018 • 3:24:58pm

re: #1 Ace-o-aces

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Jesus dude, if you’re going to be this hypocritical, at least wait a day in between.

Awww, they won’t bake him a cake.

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majii  Feb 27, 2018 • 3:27:14pm

re: #187 ObserverArt

“I bet all of them are mentioning the political climate in Georgia.”

The political climate here, courtesy of the GOP, is sh*tty, petty, crass, corrupt, secretive, and vindictive toward anyone/thing/org that doesn’t kiss the party’s ass.
Edited to add: The GOP operators here remind me of the Borg’s motto from Star Trek: “Resistance is futile.”

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 27, 2018 • 3:27:31pm

re: #185 Dr. Matt

The Dow closed nearly 300 points down. What happened?

Too much winning.

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KGxvi  Feb 27, 2018 • 3:28:35pm

re: #187 ObserverArt

20 finalists still in the running. Columbus, where I live is one. You can be sure our mayor and big businessmen are camped out at Amazon HQs just like the other 18 cities not named Atlanta. I bet all of them are mentioning the political climate in Georgia.

The way local governments “compete” for these businesses is fucking pathetic.

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calochortus  Feb 27, 2018 • 3:29:18pm

re: #185 Dr. Matt

The Dow closed nearly 300 points down. What happened?

More people sold than bought?
Seriously, I don’t think anything happened. I have been given to understand that the “volatility index” is causing instability because of things I’m completely incapable of understanding. There are now EFTs that allow investors to bet on market volatility. Or something. It’s weird. We’re moving our investments toward index funds because of the amount of insanity in the market.

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KGxvi  Feb 27, 2018 • 3:29:33pm

re: #185 Dr. Matt

The Dow closed nearly 300 points down. What happened?

I’m guessing, this:

Federal Reserve chair Jerome Powell moved markets on Tuesday in his first appearance before lawmakers on Capitol Hill since his confirmation.

In response to questions from Rep. Carolyn Maloney (D-NY), Powell hinted that more aggressive action on raising interest rates from the Fed could be warranted this year.

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Eventual Carrion  Feb 27, 2018 • 3:30:03pm

re: #14 MsJ

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And I can only hope that is the end game in this move. Actionable proof of law breaking.

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MsJ  Feb 27, 2018 • 3:31:42pm

re: #191 KGxvi

The way local governments “compete” for these businesses is fucking pathetic.

Begging for crumbs at best (and yes, it is important to people who need jobs, I get that). But look at WI and Foxcon. That is costing taxpayers more than the jobs will ever be worth to the state as a whole.

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MsJ  Feb 27, 2018 • 3:33:09pm
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Interesting Times  Feb 27, 2018 • 3:35:59pm

re: #196 MsJ

Now the Debbie-Downer view: ~40% of Americans are perfectly fine being Putin’s bitch as long as it owns the libs :/

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MsJ  Feb 27, 2018 • 3:40:38pm

Colton Haab’s father acknowledges omitting some words from the email but says he didn’t do it on purpose.

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MsJ  Feb 27, 2018 • 3:44:28pm

Aren’t her 15 minutes up yet?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2018 • 3:44:29pm

re: #184 MsJ

I stolded that. It was perfect.

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Awesome. The family oriented comes btw from reading about Mueller’s devotion to his daughter who has an illness that requires a lot of treatment. Saw that on a profile on him. Meanwhile Trump’s kids found out their father’s philandering through the tabloids.

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calochortus  Feb 27, 2018 • 3:45:05pm

re: #199 MsJ

Aren’t her 15 minutes up yet?

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Must be a short book.

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Interesting Times  Feb 27, 2018 • 3:45:36pm

re: #108 allegro

Apparently not. Looks like someone competent.

Even better:

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2018 • 3:46:07pm

re: #199 MsJ

Aren’t her 15 minutes up yet?

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Yeah how dare they be angry that you didn’t follow the law when dealing with them. They’re the real monsters here.// So who writes the forward, Huckabee or Cruz. Both grifted off her grift.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 27, 2018 • 3:46:45pm
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whitebeach  Feb 27, 2018 • 3:48:37pm

re: #161 KGxvi

A lot of people have been pointing out that the NRA morphed from a hunting/shooting enthusiast group to a lobbying organization for gun manufacturers within the last 15 years or so.

When I wasn’t dodging velociraptors and pterodactyls as a teenager, I enjoyed reading National Rifleman magazine, the monthly publication of the NRA, to which my dad belonged. You couldn’t by any means describe it as a liberal screed, but my God, it was absolutely nothing close to the insanity that now pours forth like Niagara Falls every time this nutcase organization opens its mouth.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 27, 2018 • 3:49:20pm
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jeffreyw  Feb 27, 2018 • 3:50:09pm

re: #75 lawhawk

Must be doing something right…. I’m wearing glasses :)

I paid a terrible price for not reading the fine print. I used Crisco for lube and did not notice, God as my witness, that it was shortening.

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majii  Feb 27, 2018 • 3:50:35pm

re: #195 MsJ

“Begging for crumbs at best (and yes, it is important to people who need jobs, I get that). But look at WI and Foxcon. That is costing taxpayers more than the jobs will ever be worth to the state as a whole.”

Our state’s largest newspaper, The Atlanta Journal Constitution, had a big story a few years ago about the millions GOPers in the general assembly have handed out to corporations that haven’t fulfilled their end of the bargain in business deals. In some cases, corporations have taken the money and then moved out of the state. According to state law, when this happens, the corporations are supposed to return some of that money to the state, but that has never happened. When AJC journalists questioned GOP pols about making these corporations return the millions they owe us, all they were told was that these lawmakers are in the “process” of “pursuing” the return of these fund. They’re lying. They’re making zero effort to hold these corporations accountable for anything. Hell, our governor Nathan Deal [R] sold his salvage yard to an out-of-state company that owes the state of GA millions in back taxes. When he was first asked about this, he said he wasn’t “getting involved” in the matter. The second time he was asked about it, he said the GA Dept. of Revenue would be “investigating” the matter. To my knowledge, Copart still hasn’t paid the back taxes it owes. This matter was first brought to citizens’ attention in 2013, and it made no difference because Deal was reelected by a wide margin.

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BeachDem  Feb 27, 2018 • 3:51:15pm

re: #166 MsJ

Isn’t he the guy who held a gun to his wife’s head? A state republican chairman?

I so love the family values crowd.

Ah yes, another star of the south. Here’s my favorite pic of Toddy with his loony mother, Roxie.

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SteelPH  Feb 27, 2018 • 3:51:51pm

re: #199 MsJ

Aren’t her 15 minutes up yet?

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So a work of fiction then.

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stpaulbear  Feb 27, 2018 • 3:53:07pm

re: #53 Blind Frog Belly White

Threatening Manafort with the stick, while showing him the carrot vicariously.

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Hope Mueller gets all the info that he needs before the Russian mafia gets to him. I’d be nervous about being out in public if I was him.

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wrenchwench  Feb 27, 2018 • 3:59:08pm

Wanna see Trump panic? Tell him emoluments turn one’s face orange and cause the hands to shrink.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 27, 2018 • 3:59:18pm

re: #199 MsJ

Aren’t her 15 minutes up yet?

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She’s writing homoerotica now?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2018 • 3:59:53pm

Imagine if a liberal minded clerk refused to give out applications for gun licenses and imagine further if the Democratic party turned that person into a martyr. Yeah.

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BeachDem  Feb 27, 2018 • 4:00:24pm

re: #208 majii

“Begging for crumbs at best (and yes, it is important to people who need jobs, I get that). But look at WI and Foxcon. That is costing taxpayers more than the jobs will ever be worth to the state as a whole.”

Our state’s largest newspaper, The Atlanta Journal Constitution, had a big story a few years ago about the millions GOPers in the general assembly have handed out to corporations that haven’t fulfilled their end of the bargain in business deals. In some cases, corporations have taken the money and then moved out of the state. According to state law, when this happens, the corporations are supposed to return some of that money to the state, but that has never happened. When AJC journalists questioned GOP pols about making these corporations return the millions they owe us, all they were told was that these lawmakers are in the “process” of “pursuing” the return of these fund. They’re lying. They’re making zero effort to hold these corporations accountable for anything. Hell, our governor Nathan Deal [R] sold his salvage yard to an out-of-state company that owes the state of GA millions in back taxes. When he was first asked about this, he said he wasn’t “getting involved” in the matter. The second time he was asked about it, he said the GA Dept. of Revenue would be “investigating” the matter. To my knowledge, Copart still hasn’t paid the back taxes it owes. This matter was first brought to citizens’ attention in 2013, and it made no difference because Deal was reelected by a wide margin.

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majii  Feb 27, 2018 • 4:01:01pm

re: #203 HappyWarrior

“So who writes the forward, Huckabee or Cruz. Both grifted off her grift.”

I’m thinking it could also be written by Matt Staver, the fake Christian pimp in the WH, Mike Pence, or even Pat Robertson.

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ckkatz  Feb 27, 2018 • 4:01:07pm

re: #160 MsJ

Makes you wonder about Tatiana Tsimfar and Liubov Svirkova.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2018 • 4:02:53pm

re: #216 majii

“So who writes the forward, Huckabee or Cruz. Both grifted off her grift.”

I’m thinking it could also be written by Matt Staver, the fake Christian pimp in the WH, Mike Pence, or even Pat Robertson.

Yep.

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BeachDem  Feb 27, 2018 • 4:06:12pm

Speaking of fiscally responsible Republicans—another HUD expenditure—this time for a dining room set for Ben Carson’s office suite—

$31,561 expenditure, which purchased a table, chairs and a hutch.

Spokesperson Raffi Williams claimed Secretary Carson was unaware of the purchase, but will not be returning the dining set.

“In general, the secretary does want to be as fiscally prudent as possible with the taxpayers’ money,” Williams added.

rawstory.com

So to recap, in GENERAL he’s fiscally prudent, but when it comes SPECIFICALLY to furniture his wife wants, not so much. Alrighty then.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 27, 2018 • 4:09:08pm

God, I hate this fucking president. Excuse me. But I do.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 27, 2018 • 4:09:35pm

re: #199 MsJ

Aren’t her 15 minutes up yet?

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Is she going to tell us how JC forgave her adultery?

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majii  Feb 27, 2018 • 4:12:00pm

re: #215 BeachDem

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Eventual Carrion  Feb 27, 2018 • 4:12:06pm

re: #52 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

I’m willing to bet that everyone has figured out which teachers are carrying. They will be the ones with the biggest attitude, machoism, hot temper, etc.

In HS us students knew which teachers were having affairs. Only a matter of time before some student sees Mr. Cotter taking the gun and holster from the small of his back while taking off his jacket to get into his car, then everyone knows. Female teachers could conceal in their purse, so easier to keep concealed. But sooner or later a kid will see something and that jig will be up.

Watch, Mr. Cruz and Mrs. Schatzie leave at the same time every Wednesday. We saw them going into the hotel up on Stupp Rd. last week.

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mmmirele  Feb 27, 2018 • 4:12:27pm

I can’t even go to the dentist any more without everything going to shit? In between Kushner and his security clearance, Stone and Wikipedia, Steve Wynn’s sexual assaults coming back to haunt him and then I see that the Poopinator tried out for Survivor and there’s a tape. Oh my heck!

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whitebeach  Feb 27, 2018 • 4:12:29pm

re: #212 wrenchwench

Wanna see Trump panic? Tell him emoluments turn one’s face orange and cause the hands to shrink.

And if that doesn’t work, tell him urine does the same thing.

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ckkatz  Feb 27, 2018 • 4:13:24pm

re: #161 KGxvi

From what I remember…

The NRA was originally founded in 1871 to advance rifle marksmanship after the miserable marksmanship of the Civil War:

“Union Army records for the Civil War indicate that its troops fired about 1,000 rifle shots for each Confederate hit, causing General Burnside to lament his recruits: “Out of ten soldiers who are perfect in drill and the manual of arms, only one knows the purpose of the sights on his gun or can hit the broad side of a barn.”“

It mostly concentrated on the technical aspects of shooting until 1977 when a bunch of rwnj’s took control of it and politicized it.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 27, 2018 • 4:13:25pm

Kushner at PDB: “I am so a big boy!!! :< “

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SteelPH  Feb 27, 2018 • 4:17:35pm

re: #220 Charles Johnson

God, I hate this fucking president. Excuse me. But I do.

You’re not alone.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 27, 2018 • 4:17:50pm

re: #226 ckkatz

From what I remember…

The NRA was originally founded in 1871 to advance rifle marksmanship after the miserable marksmanship of the Civil War:

“Union Army records for the Civil War indicate that its troops fired about 1,000 rifle shots for each Confederate hit, causing General Burnside to lament his recruits: “Out of ten soldiers who are perfect in drill and the manual of arms, only one knows the purpose of the sights on his gun or can hit the broad side of a barn.”“

It mostly concentrated on the technical aspects of shooting until 1977 when a bunch of rwnj’s took control of it and politicized it.

The funny thing is that in general, American field armies have presented relatively good marksmanship - in target practice. The problem comes when asked to shoot at a living, breathing human being; who knew that, when it comes down to it, teenage farm boys find it difficult to kill other teenage farm boys? Most of modern military training is breaking down the psychological barriers that make it hard to aim and fire at a real person.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 27, 2018 • 4:17:53pm

re: #223 Eventual Carrion

In HS us students knew which teachers were having affairs. Only a matter of time before some student sees Mr. Cotter taking the gun and holster from the small of his back while taking off his jacket to get into his car, then everyone knows. Female teachers could conceal in their purse, so easier to keep concealed. But sooner or later a kid will see something and that jig will be up.

Watch, Mr. Cruz and Mrs. Schatzie leave at the same time every Wednesday. We saw them going into the hotel up on Stupp Rd. last week.

You had a whole road for that? Cool town.

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BeachDem  Feb 27, 2018 • 4:19:07pm

re: #222 majii

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HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2018 • 4:23:20pm

re: #226 ckkatz

From what I remember…

The NRA was originally founded in 1871 to advance rifle marksmanship after the miserable marksmanship of the Civil War:

“Union Army records for the Civil War indicate that its troops fired about 1,000 rifle shots for each Confederate hit, causing General Burnside to lament his recruits: “Out of ten soldiers who are perfect in drill and the manual of arms, only one knows the purpose of the sights on his gun or can hit the broad side of a barn.”“

It mostly concentrated on the technical aspects of shooting until 1977 when a bunch of rwnj’s took control of it and politicized it.

Yeah it was mostly apolitical for a long time. I think SK one time mentioned a former border patrol agent who took the realms around the time you mentioned and that began the turn to what we see now.

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MsJ  Feb 27, 2018 • 4:23:54pm

Heh

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majii  Feb 27, 2018 • 4:28:16pm

re: #227 Barefoot Grin

“Kushner at PDB: “I am so a big boy!!! :< “”

Kushner is, and has always been, someone who has had an inflated sense of his abilities and accomplishments that have never been documented. He and his father-in-law have this much in common. Both were born on third base, but claim they reached home plate because they’ve always worked soooo hard and know more about every topic than everyone else on the planet. I hold our MSM and un/under/-educated voters responsible for putting these stupid, ignorant, incurious, narcissistic, cowardly, unqualified, weak-minded, tools in charge of our government. They’ve been f*cking up since Day 1.

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plansbandc  Feb 27, 2018 • 4:29:59pm

re: #150 KGxvi

They test marketed throwback Dr. Pepper with real sugar here a couple of years ago. It was glorious. They still have throwback Mountain Dew and Pepsi. If I could still sugar like I used to, the throwback Mountain Dew would always be in the fridge, but alas.

I am very impressed with Coke Zero and especial Coke Zero Cherry. Really delicious. But diet soda is bad too, so I try to limit it.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 27, 2018 • 4:31:17pm

re: #235 plansbandc

They test marketed throwback Dr. Pepper with real sugar here a couple of years ago. It was glorious. They still have throwback Mountain Dew and Pepsi. If I could still sugar like I used to, the throwback Mountain Dew would always be in the fridge, but alas.

I am very impressed with Coke Zero and especial Coke Zero Cherry. Really delicious. But diet soda is bad too, so I try to limit it.

Everything is toxic. The trick is to keep all your toxins in balance.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 27, 2018 • 4:32:04pm

re: #236 Decatur Deb

Everything is toxic. The trick is to keep all your toxins in balance.

Everything in moderation. Including moderation.

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stpaulbear  Feb 27, 2018 • 4:34:44pm

re: #234 majii

“Kushner at PDB: “I am so a big boy!!! :< “”

Kushner is, and has always been, someone who has had an inflated sense of his abilities and accomplishments that have never been documented. He and his father-in-law have this much in common. Both were born on third base, but claim they reached home plate because they’ve always worked soooo hard and know more about every topic than everyone else on the planet. I hold our MSM and un/under/-educated voters responsible for putting these stupid, ignorant, incurious, narcissistic, cowardly, unqualified, weak-minded, tools in charge of our government. They’ve been f*cking up since Day 1.

Kushner is going to find out that he’s been thrown out at home when he can’t make payment on his loans.

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ckkatz  Feb 27, 2018 • 4:34:49pm

re: #229 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The funny thing is that in general, American field armies have presented relatively good marksmanship - in target practice. The problem comes when asked to shoot at a living, breathing human being; who knew that, when it comes down to it, teenage farm boys find it difficult to kill other teenage farm boys? Most of modern military training is breaking down the psychological barriers that make it hard to aim and fire at a real person.

This is a very true point. Particularly when the fight is a civil war within the same population or even within the same family. Often one response is to attempt to dehumanize the other side. Which is what worries me about some of the more extreme propaganda out there currently.

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plansbandc  Feb 27, 2018 • 4:35:07pm

re: #199 MsJ

I read that as fisting. I’ll see myself out…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 27, 2018 • 4:36:05pm

re: #181 KGxvi

This is some really Game of Thrones shit. Just no Starks or Martells.

Yeah, but even in Game of Thrones,

there are no Martells and damned few Starks left.

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ObserverArt  Feb 27, 2018 • 4:41:37pm

re: #211 stpaulbear

Hope Mueller gets all the info that he needs before the Russian mafia gets to him. I’d be nervous about being out in public if I was him.

Ari Melber did an interesting piece toward the end of his show. It was about how Russia doesn’t care who knows and they might have wanted to be caught.

The reasoning: it shows Putin’s power and how he can influence the world’s political systems.

He wants to prove how vulnerable a democracy is because it is based on trust instead of a strong smart man like Putin. If he knows these systems so well, think how great a leader he is.

It was pretty thought provoking and a slant I had never considered. It goes to your worry about Mueller. He may be doing exactly what Putin wants.

If the video gets posted I’ll put it up for those without MSNBC coverage.

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The Major  Feb 27, 2018 • 4:58:21pm

re: #119 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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The Major  Feb 27, 2018 • 5:00:26pm

re: #129 MsJ

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The Major  Feb 27, 2018 • 5:04:07pm

re: #151 Hecuba’s daughter

The NRA goal is to increase violent crime and mass shootings and thereby increase anxiety among the public. If you don’t feel secure, you may be persuaded that a gun would provide at least some protection in a confrontation — so more gun sales. This is a Machiavellian plot to increase gun sales, even if the result is the destruction of civility in this country

In the 1970-1980s mainframe computing market we used to call that FUD-“Fear, uncertainty, and doubt”-and the master-baiter of that technique was IBM (who, ironically today, is just a shadow of its former self, having surrendered a lot of their crowns to other upstarts….)

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The Major  Feb 27, 2018 • 5:06:39pm

re: #159 Dr. Matt

What’s up with the Rage Furby squinty eyes?

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The Major  Feb 27, 2018 • 5:09:24pm

re: #172 The Vicious Babushka

How’d that work out for Savita Halappanavar?

She was the one in Ireland, right? I heard all about that on Auntie Beeb….tragic….

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The Major  Feb 27, 2018 • 5:16:01pm

re: #182 Charles Johnson

I actually wrote a parody song about The Rage Furby using Speed Racer as the background music - now I have to go dig it up and update it….

“Troll, Rage Furby!
Troll, Rage Furby!
Troll Rage Furby, troll!”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 27, 2018 • 5:23:36pm

as to the topic of this thread:
This Kentucky school district just voted to let teachers carry concealed guns

Pikeville

Teachers could soon be carrying concealed guns inside schools in Pike County under a proposal that was preliminarily approved Monday evening by the Pike County School Board.

The unanimous decision came after the board heard concerns about school safety from teachers, parents and administrators during a town hall meeting at Pike County Central High School. The discussion was prompted by multiple school shootings in recent weeks, including one at Marshall County High School in Western Kentucky that left two dead and another in Florida that left 17 dead.

The motion authorizes the school board’s attorney to work with the Pike County Sheriff’s Office, which would oversee the program, to finalize a formal policy for the school board to consider.

Pike County Schools Superintendent Reed Adkins said he hopes the board will give final approval within two to three weeks, and to have armed staff in schools by fall, if not sooner.

Pike County is hardcore coal country…lots of “economic anxiety” down there.
It’s just pathetic how easily they are frightened and manipulated.

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Eventual Carrion  Feb 27, 2018 • 5:33:18pm

re: #119 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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A stooge, just like his FIL.

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The Major  Feb 27, 2018 • 5:41:20pm

re: #223 Eventual Carrion

In HS us students knew which teachers were having affairs.

Our High School Math teacher (Geometry/Algebra II) married one of our graduating class members in 1976. AAMOF, my computer class teacher used to pack heat in school.

And this was in 1976.

The more things change…..

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makeitstop  Feb 27, 2018 • 6:12:58pm

re: #182 Charles Johnson

Furby was probably drunk.

Baked. California.

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Eventual Carrion  Feb 27, 2018 • 6:27:49pm

re: #237 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Everything in moderation. Including moderation.

I take moderation to the extreme!

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Sarahproudandtall  Feb 27, 2018 • 8:35:16pm

re: #199 MsJ

“dramatic encounters with furious, fist-pounding, homosexual men”

That’s what she said.


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