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ckkatz  Feb 27, 2018 • 10:56:31pm

Cool song! Had not heard of Glen Hansard before. So I looked up and am listening to some more of his music right now.

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Kragar  Feb 27, 2018 • 10:57:57pm
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goddamnedfrank  Feb 27, 2018 • 11:03:12pm

The awesome thing about this is that right wingers will never believe the truth and that was the goal all along.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 27, 2018 • 11:04:42pm

re: #3 goddamnedfrank

The awesome thing about this is that right wingers will never believe the truth and that was the goal all along.

Back to my claim conservatism is a religion. No amount of evidence shakes faith.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 27, 2018 • 11:09:39pm

Worth posting again, President Obama’s official photographer trolling Trump’s “witch hunt” tweet this morning:

Instagram

WITCH HUNT! (Halloween 2010)

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 27, 2018 • 11:24:36pm

re: #4 Anymouse 🌹

Back to my claim conservatism is a religion. No amount of evidence shakes faith.

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It doesn’t even qualify as a religion. A religion is system of belief, usually based on faith in a superhuman power and usually aspiring (though often failing) at some semblance of internal and ethical consistency. This is a cult, an us vs them gang mentality, nothing more. There is no faith, only the expedient demands of the immediate moment and the only thing being worshiped is the supremacy of the cult itself & its current leader.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 27, 2018 • 11:50:01pm

re: #6 goddamnedfrank

It doesn’t even qualify as a religion. A religion is system of belief, usually based on faith in a superhuman power, usually aspiring to some semblance of internal consistency. This is a cult, an us vs them gang mentality. There is no faith, only the expedient demands of the immediate moment and the only thing being worshiped is the supremacy of the cult itself & its current leader.

The Holy Second Amendment, Saint Ronald Reagan, &c.

And a lot of religious faiths do have an “us versus them” gang mentality.

In the meantime, I ran across an article at The New Yorker about a first-world problem: cell phones sent to repair centres that fail and do things like call 911 repeatedly.

The Elk Grove Police Department says it has received 1,600 911 calls from the Apple repair centre close by, by broken telephones in the centre awaiting repair. Sacramento PD says they’ve been flooded by such calls.

nymag.com

From CBS:

On average, Elk Grove Police say they’ve received 20 accidental 911 calls a day from Apple, roughly 1,600 calls since October. Hudson says the calls take valuable seconds away from calls that could be real life-and-death emergencies.

Usually, nobody is on the other line, but occasionally, dispatchers hear workers in the background discussing Apple products or general repair chatter.

Apple told the station that it was working with local law enforcement to resolve the issue.

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Kragar  Feb 27, 2018 • 11:51:47pm
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Kragar  Feb 28, 2018 • 12:10:14am
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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 28, 2018 • 12:28:10am
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freetoken  Feb 28, 2018 • 12:32:06am

Lots of Brexit news blurbs.

Seems the Brexiteers are still clueless about what is going to really happen to the UK.

It should come as no surprise that Brexiteers use the same playbook as Trumpers, but in the case of the UK there is accountability (unlike here in the US):

Scottish Tory arch-Brexiteer forced to apologise to SNP MP over misleading Twitter video

Meanwhile, the natives are restless in the hinterlands:

Row erupts as Scottish and Welsh governments move to block Brexit “power grab”

Meanwhile, the reality of not being part of the EU integrated economy is going to bring about bad things:

Many multinationals may pull out of the UK if it leaves the Customs Union

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The Ghost of a Flea  Feb 28, 2018 • 12:36:12am

In addition to the Hour of the Wolf, there’s apparently the time of sleepless disquiet where prepping and stir-frying stuff is an outlet for all the troubling stuff inside. The hour of the wok?

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 28, 2018 • 12:38:55am
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wheat-dogg  Feb 28, 2018 • 12:43:30am

I swear, everything related to the Trump Org is out of whack.

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freetoken  Feb 28, 2018 • 12:56:10am

For those of you into genealogy, Rootstech starts today:

rootstech.org

The free stream is mostly filled with advertorials, but the last presentation Wednesday (today) is about this year’s tech innovation competition and sometimes there are interesting items that surface.

Also, on Saturday morning, Henry Gates is one of the key speakers.

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freetoken  Feb 28, 2018 • 1:11:59am

So the first drop of the EU proposal for Brexit drops in a few hours:

How to read the draft Brexit treaty

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Lupin  Feb 28, 2018 • 2:03:14am

I think this opinion article from The Guardian reflects totally what I believe will happen (and is much better phrased than I could):

Guardian

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 28, 2018 • 3:12:09am

re: #11 freetoken

Lots of Brexit news blurbs.

Seems the Brexiteers are still clueless about what is going to really happen to the UK.

It should come as no surprise that Brexiteers use the same playbook as Trumpers, but in the case of the UK there is accountability (unlike here in the US):

Trump can be over and out in three more years…Brexit is forever.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 28, 2018 • 3:13:18am

Our Trump-supporting Senator Deb Fischer has picked up a primary opponent, who naturally, because he is a Republican, is running from the right of Fischer. That means she will have to spend money trying to fend off a primary challenger.

She also has a strong Democratic challenger, Jane Reybould. If you feel like throwing a few bucks at a chance to flip a Senate seat in Nebraska blue, her Website:
janeraybould.com

starherald.com
(goes to the Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald, more at the link):

SCOTTSBLUFF — Speaking at an informal meeting at the Scottsbluff Runza, U.S. Senate candidate Todd Watson, who’s running against incumbent Deb Fischer, said his entire philosophy of government is based on one document — the U.S. Constitution.

“I have no personal vendetta against Sen. Fischer and I have no interest in trashing her because that’s not the Nebraska way,” Watson said. “But we’re both running for a job and I don’t think she does the job very well.”

He pointed out that six years ago, Fischer said her core promises were to cut spending, balance the budget and repeal Obamacare, none of which happened.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 28, 2018 • 3:28:29am

Oh boy, my regional newspaper has a wingnut letter with every talking point imaginable from the right on guns and mass-shootings.

It seems it’s been about a month since they published their obligatory once-a-month letter from a liberal; I think I need to fire up my pen today and knock down this wingnut in about half the words he used to justify owning weapons of war over the lives of people.

What Law Will Stop Those Willing to Break It? (Goes to the Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald, Letters to the Editor column)

Speaking of tools; he argues that Timothy McVeigh killed a bunch of people with a fertilizer bomb. No law stopped him from doing that.

He is correct. That’s why fertilizer has been heavily regulated since that time: Regulations are written in the blood of victims. No one has been killed that way since. It’s almost as fertilizer regulations work.

He also makes a claim I am going to have to research because I believe it to be bullshit: claiming the DOJ says more people have been killed with bare hands than guns.

From the beginning of time, there has never been a gun that has ever killed anybody. The DOJ says that more have been murdered by bare hands than guns; more people have been killed with fertilizer than a single event with a gun. To limit the sale of fertilizer to responsible adults would not have prevented the deaths of 168 people at the hands of Timothy McVeigh in Oklahoma City. To limit the use of all tools, including guns, knives, cars, or airplanes would not have prevented the attack on 911.

People or accidents kill people and not the tools they use. How can you legislate the actions of an individual that has no respect for the law? If a person is intent on breaking the law, “Thou shall not kill”, what law will stop them?

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freetoken  Feb 28, 2018 • 3:44:07am

re: #17 Lupin

I think this opinion article from The Guardian reflects totally what I believe will happen (and is much better phrased than I could):

Guardian

It’s sort of similar to the problem of being only partly pregnant.

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freetoken  Feb 28, 2018 • 4:08:31am

The source of ideal immigrants, according to Trump:

Norway to ban semi-automatic firearms after 2011 attack

Norway is moving to ban semi-automatic firearms as of 2021, which will mark a decade since Anders Behring Breivik used such weapons to kill 69 people, most of them teenagers, before surrendering to police, a lawmaker said Wednesday.

Peter Frolich of the Norwegian Parliament’s judicial affairs committee says private persons, including hunters, “should not have the right in Norway to access such weapons.”

Frolich said “a broad majority” in Norway’s 169-seat parliament backs the center-right government’s proposal. No date for a vote was immediately set.

[…]

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freetoken  Feb 28, 2018 • 4:14:26am

Why is there a war in Syria?

[…]

The UN says at least 250,000 people have been killed. However, the organisation stopped updating its figures in August 2015.

The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, a UK-based monitoring group, reported in December 2017 that it had documented the deaths of more than 346,600 people, including 103,000 civilians. But it noted that the figure did not include 56,900 people who were missing and presumed dead.

In February 2016, a think-tank estimated that the conflict had caused 470,000 deaths, either directly or indirectly.

[…]

It still is rather amazing that something this large, in which the US is involved, has slid into the background, behind the enormity of Trump’s ego and the aftermath of his crime-gang.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 28, 2018 • 4:17:37am

re: #17 Lupin

I think this opinion article from The Guardian reflects totally what I believe will happen (and is much better phrased than I could):

Guardian

That’s a very good article on the potential disaster of invoking Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty.

As I understand the Brexit vote, it was a plebiscite that sought the opinion of UK subjects. It doesn’t demand that Parliament follow the outcome of the vote.

However, that would take the courage of the Conservative Party to say, “Look, we acknowledge your racism against Poles and Romanians, but exiting the European Union would be irrevocably damaging to the UK’s economy for reasons a, b, and c.”

Conservatism does not accept responsibility nor take courageous stands.

Conservatism destroys every nation where it takes hold and remains in power. The Conservatives in the UK would rather destroy the nation than tell it “this is the wrong decision for our nation.” The goal of conservatism in every nation is to gain or maintain power, and they will do that in the UK to the destruction of the City of London and the nation’s companies to do so.

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freetoken  Feb 28, 2018 • 4:25:48am

Yet more world-going-to-hell-in-a-handbasket:

UN warns of ‘catastrophic’ conditions in Yemen, as famine and cholera worsen

In three years of war, over 9 thousand dead and 22 million people in need of assistance. Of these 8.4 million suffer famine. Cholera has hit 1.1 million people and cases of diphtheria have emerged, absent since 1982. UN expert: The “worst humanitarian crisis in the world” is underway.

[…]

Meanwhile, the divisions within the UN Security Council do not help find a way to peace. In recent days Russia has used the right of veto to block a UN resolution [wanted by the United States] that accused Tehran of involvement in the conflict.

One of the more damning things about the Trump administration is that it’s made the US even more impotent to help people in crisis.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 28, 2018 • 4:28:17am

Good Morning!

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freetoken  Feb 28, 2018 • 4:29:21am

From last week, a headline lost in the noise:

NASA Budget Proposal Cancels WFIRST

It’s part of Trump’s war on people smart enough not to buy his bullshit.

WFIRST was intended to be a major asset for the US, a key tool for research in the coming decade.

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Lupin  Feb 28, 2018 • 4:30:35am

The UK has for years been a trojan horse for the worst of US policies, and in the last 10 years an active saboteur of the EU project (despite them clearly signing into it in 1975 or so). I haven’t seen any stats and my evidence is wholly anecdotal, but i think many in France or Germany would be glad to see them go, despite the budgetary loss.

Except for a few limited areas (such as Euratom, air travel, etc) I fail to see a path to any agreement that would be politically viable in the UK, hence WTO or Stay are the only two likely options, as pointed out in that article.

On top of it, the UK stands the very risk of losing NI and Gibraltar in the short-term (at least in every meaningful aspects, other than a token flag flying somewhere) and possibly Scotland as well.

The same forces who got Trump installed are the ones who pushed for Brexit, are pushing for fascism in Italy (and even if Berlusconi wins, they still win).

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A Mom Anon  Feb 28, 2018 • 4:31:45am

re: #26 Dave In Austin

You’re Grounded Young Man. For making me see that after a pretty sleepless night.

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Lupin  Feb 28, 2018 • 4:32:28am

re: #18 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Trump can be over and out in three more years…Brexit is forever.

With respect, the damage Trump is inflicting on the US in every area of its society, economy, politics, etc, etc, as we “speak” is incalculable.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 28, 2018 • 4:34:52am

re: #25 freetoken

Yet more world-going-to-hell-in-a-handbasket:

UN warns of ‘catastrophic’ conditions in Yemen, as famine and cholera worsen

One of the more damning things about the Trump administration is that it’s made the US even more impotent to help people in crisis.

Shortly after Trump assumed office, he sent the Navy in a raid in Yemen that Obama had rejected, to allegedly capture information from alleged terrorist groups. That resulted in the death of one service member and no useful intelligence captured. Trump then did his best to blame the Pentagon for the failure of the mission, which the GOP parroted.

Conservatism never accepts responsibilities for failure, you can only fail conservatism. It really is a religion. Even the military (allegedly something the GOP cares about) was thrown under a bus, and a newly-created Gold Star family ignored, sacrificed on the blood altar of conservatism.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 28, 2018 • 4:37:11am

re: #28 Lupin

And Nigel Farage, successful in his rodent copulation of the Brexit vote, is now palling around with the GOP in CPAC, supported Roy Moore for the Alabama special election to the Senate, &c.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 28, 2018 • 4:39:11am

re: #29 A Mom Anon

You’re Grounded Young Man. For making me see that after a pretty sleepless night.

Fortunately I didn’t have my bifocals on, Mom, so it is out of focus. Lucky me.

I’m sorry for the loss of your innocence.

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Lupin  Feb 28, 2018 • 4:44:11am

re: #32 Anymouse 🌹

And Nigel Farage, successful in his rodent copulation of the Brexit vote, is now palling around with the GOP in CPAC, supported Roy Moore for the Alabama special election to the Senate, &c.

Ultimately the problem is the people. Too many gullible ignorant people tented by easy nazi solutions to complex world problems, chickens voting blindly for the Colonel.

My region of Southern France is the #2ns poorest; think of Harlan County USA minus the meth. Yet the FM got slightly under 20% in the last election. Too high, yes; but not critical.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 28, 2018 • 4:52:37am

LOL, I saw a comment on a YouTube video from David Pakman:

Libruls turned my gun gay! We’ve been married for three years now!”

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Feb 28, 2018 • 4:54:29am

Got this on Twitter:

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Dave In Austin  Feb 28, 2018 • 4:55:58am

For all your sporting good needs. I buy lots of fishing gear here.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 28, 2018 • 4:59:08am

re: #24 Anymouse 🌹

Conservatism does not accept responsibility nor take courageous stands.

There is Conservatism as a political philosophy and there is the modern movement that call itself Conservative. They have little to do with each other.

I am a Conservative at heart: I value “conservative” values like strong families, individual initiative, self-reliance, a free market, etc.

But I am at total odds at how modern “conservatives” approach these values: families need strong communities and schools to flourish, not tax-cut wastelands.

Individuals and families with limited incomes cannot be expected to be able to negotiate on equal terms with multi-billion-dollar international corporations for employment, insurance or financial services: for that we need unions, financial regulation, consumer protection agencies and ACA state insurance exchanges.

A Free Market is supposed to function for the benefit of all participants, consumers as well as producers, employees as well as employers.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Feb 28, 2018 • 5:07:03am

re: #37 Dave In Austin

For all your sporting good needs. I buy lots of fishing gear here.

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Iirc correctly, Dick’s was the first major chain to drop “modern sporting rifles” (AR-15 type paramilitary semi-autos) after Sandy Hook. Worth noting that they do still sell guns, but no semi-auto center-fire types. We can expect NRA cultists to go ballistic (perhaps literally) over Dick’s latest position. They have several stores in the Metroplex. I might drop by for my next ammo purchase.

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Jay C  Feb 28, 2018 • 5:08:11am

re: #34 Lupin

Ultimately the problem is the people. Too many gullible ignorant people tented by easy nazi solutions to complex world problems, chickens voting blindly for the Colonel.

Yep. The bottom line on Brexit: the bottom line on Trumpism. Especially as those “world problems” are primarily economic, and tend to follow their own physical laws, regardless of the social/political desires or tendencies of the participants (the “invisible hand” of the market can deliver a pretty hard slap in the face/fist up the colon sometimes). Which can often be usually are made worse by politicians trying to apply simplistic “political” solutions, typically in the form of belligerent/prejudicial “nationalism”, to the complex issues inherent in an intertwined, highly co-dependent globalised economy. The Remain lobby in the Brexit referendum tried, IIRC, to point out some of the pitfalls the country might face, but got swamped (even if by a small margin) by the easier “message” of “chuck the bloody foreigners out!”, which AFAICT, was the bottom-line of the Leave campaign. And Trump’s, too, for that matter….

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 28, 2018 • 5:13:44am

Repeal Reality - Make America Great Again

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Dave In Austin  Feb 28, 2018 • 5:19:13am

This one is going to hurt…..

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 28, 2018 • 5:20:58am

re: #38 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There is Conservatism as a political philosophy and there is the modern movement that call itself Conservative. They have little to do with each other.

I am a Conservative at heart: I value “conservative” values like strong families, individual initiative, self-reliance, a free market, etc.

But I am at total odds at how modern “conservatives” approach these values: families need strong communities and schools to flourish, not tax-cut wastelands.

I guess I’ll have to agree to disagree. Conservatism has always supported ideas such as your station of birth determines your life. It supported the Crown in the American Revolution. It supported slavery and the ownership of people over human rights (and fought a war to defend that).

Conservatives supported banking trusts and railroad monopolies. It opposed worker rights. It opposed women’s suffrage. It opposed the Civil Rights movement. It opposed legal safe abortion and contraception (and still does). It opposed marriage equality.

Conservatism has never represented the things you argue for. It has supported acquiring and maintaining power. That’s it. The Klan is conservative (and Christian). The John Birch Society was conservative. Suppressing free speech in various anti-war positions is conservative.

Your argument for a so-called classical conservatism supporting free markets and limited government is properly called liberalism.

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jeffreyw  Feb 28, 2018 • 5:22:14am

YouTube


Good morning!

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Mike Lamb  Feb 28, 2018 • 5:28:56am

re: #42 Dave In Austin

This one is going to hurt…..

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Seriously…lots of brains will be short circuiting…

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 28, 2018 • 5:28:56am
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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Feb 28, 2018 • 5:35:04am

re: #42 Dave In Austin

This one is going to hurt…..

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The NRA brand has gone from invincible to radioactive in the space of 2 weeks.

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Belafon  Feb 28, 2018 • 5:36:19am

And the youth shall lead us:

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 28, 2018 • 5:43:39am

re: #42 Dave In Austin

This one is going to hurt…..

As much as I dislike attacking a corporation in my local area, Cabela’s should be the next target after Dick’s and Wal*Mart.

cabelas.com (Cabela’s sale page of various AR-15 style rifles)

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Feb 28, 2018 • 5:47:29am

re: #49 Anymouse 🌹

As much as I dislike attacking a corporation in my local area, Cabela’s should be the next target after Dick’s and Wal*Mart.

cabelas.com (Cabela’s sale page of various AR-15 style rifles)

I kind of dig the Tommy gun. It comes with a violin case. Way too expensive though.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 28, 2018 • 5:47:54am

re: #49 Anymouse 🌹

Who the heck needs a .50 caliber semi-automatic rifle, which costs over $10,000? That’s a friggin’ portable anti-aircraft gun.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 28, 2018 • 5:49:01am

re: #50 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

I kind of dig the Tommy gun. It comes with a violin case. Way too expensive though.

Cabela’s offers a discount if you pick it up in the store. I can go to Sidney and pick one right up. /s

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 28, 2018 • 5:49:56am

re: #49 Anymouse 🌹

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Decatur Deb  Feb 28, 2018 • 5:50:56am

re: #42 Dave In Austin

This one is going to hurt…..

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That commenter picked up an older story. (Walmart might still sell Mini-14s in some venues.)

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dangerman  Feb 28, 2018 • 5:51:45am

re: #39 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Iirc correctly, Dick’s was the first major chain to drop “modern sporting rifles” (AR-15 type paramilitary semi-autos) after Sandy Hook. Worth noting that they do still sell guns, but no semi-auto center-fire types. We can expect NRA cultists to go ballistic (perhaps literally) over Dick’s latest position. They have several stores in the Metroplex. I might drop by for my next ammo purchase.

You have the right to keep and bear

No one has an obligation to sell you anything

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Jay C  Feb 28, 2018 • 5:52:13am

re: #50 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

I kind of dig the Tommy gun. It comes with a violin case. Way too expensive though.

Ten grand? According to your link, the good old Chicago Typewriter is only $1600. (and the violin case seems not to be included - which is a shame: they should show some respect for tradition!)

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 28, 2018 • 5:55:15am

Warning: massive projection incoming from Florida—-

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A Mom Anon  Feb 28, 2018 • 5:55:21am

re: #39 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

This also will now include the Field and Stream stores that they own as well.

I’m not sure if Cabela’s sells these kinds of weapons but I’d like to hope they would follow suit.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 28, 2018 • 5:56:34am

re: #55 dangerman

You have the right to keep and bear

No one has an obligation to sell you anything

But liebruls want to force bakers to sell TEH GEYHS wedding cakes!

There is a pharmacy in Scottsbluff that does not sell any form of contraception. They say that does not align with their religious beliefs.

That was the first and last time I went there. When we asked about it, that was the answer we got. We told them we would take our business elsewhere.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Feb 28, 2018 • 5:56:59am

re: #56 Jay C

Ten grand? According to your link, the good old Chicago Typewriter is only $1600. (and the violin case seems not to be included - which is a shame: they should show some respect for tradition!)

I think you’re confusing my link with Anymouse’s comment on the Barrett .50 rifle at the same store.

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Belafon  Feb 28, 2018 • 5:58:19am

re: #57 Barefoot Grin

Warning: massive projection incoming from Florida—-

Just because no one likes you, Marco, doesn’t mean we can’t get along. Heck, we can all agree you’re a shit heel.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 28, 2018 • 5:58:28am

re: #58 A Mom Anon

This also will now include the Field and Stream stores that they own as well.

I’m not sure if Cabela’s sells these kinds of weapons but I’d like to hope they would follow suit.

I’m telling all the humpers to take their business to Field & Stream instead. ;)

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 28, 2018 • 5:58:35am

re: #49 Anymouse 🌹

re: #58 A Mom Anon

This also will now include the Field and Stream stores that they own as well.

I’m not sure if Cabela’s sells these kinds of weapons but I’d like to hope they would follow suit.

Cabela’s does sell them (see the comment above, which has a link to their Website page with various semi-automatic centrefire rifles). You can get a .50 cal semi-automatic portable anti-aircraft gun for a low price of $10,000.

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dangerman  Feb 28, 2018 • 5:58:48am

re: #13 goddamnedfrank

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— I wasn’t allowed to vote

…. I couldn’t eat at a lunch counter

*** You mean the Constitution evolves?

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Feb 28, 2018 • 6:00:06am

re: #56 Jay C

Ten grand? According to your link, the good old Chicago Typewriter is only $1600. (and the violin case seems not to be included - which is a shame: they should show some respect for tradition!)

Look again, it does include the violin case:

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Jay C  Feb 28, 2018 • 6:00:43am

re: #60 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

I think you’re confusing my link with Anymouse’s comment on the Barrett .50 rifle at the same store.

OK: I see: my bad.
I still like the classic lines of the walnut-stocked Tommy gun better.
Tradition….

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dangerman  Feb 28, 2018 • 6:01:03am

re: #57 Barefoot Grin

Warning: massive projection incoming from Florida—-

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Marco says “we”
Marco means “I”

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Dave In Austin  Feb 28, 2018 • 6:01:51am

Is Facebook having issues this morning? My dialogue box keeps disappearing.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 28, 2018 • 6:02:38am

re: #64 dangerman

— I wasn’t allowed to vote

…. I couldn’t eat at a lunch counter

*** You mean the Constitution evolves?

I went to segregated schools (for my first two years) until my mother found out about the system and said “hell no” and moved us north. The voting age dropped before I turned eighteen, but that meant I was able to vote in the 1980 election against Ronald Reagan.

(Considering every person I voted for lost - I did not have the franchise during Obama’s administration because I was homeless - perhaps I shouldn’t vote. I appear to be a jinx.)

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Feb 28, 2018 • 6:03:27am

re: #63 Anymouse 🌹

Cabela’s does sell them (see the comment above, which has a link to their Website page with various semi-automatic centrefire rifles). You can get a .50 cal semi-automatic portable anti-aircraft gun for a low price of $10,000.

I’ve mentioned the ammosexual survival nut who told me his .50 Barrett would “knock an APC over on its side.” I hope it doesn’t come to that but if it does I want salvage rights to whatever is left of his gear after the APC runs over him.

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Belafon  Feb 28, 2018 • 6:04:35am

re: #43 Anymouse 🌹

Agree. Let’s look at the list Wendell gave, that conservatives like to claim: Strong families, individual initiative, self-reliance, a free market, etc. They like to talk a big game, but they never actually support any of these. All they really care about is that they don’t want to have to pay for someone else. It may seem like a contradiction, but none of those, including self-reliance, can happen if society does not provide the help for it to happen. We become better at taking care of ourselves if we start out in a strong family, and a strong family can only occur if parents aren’t having to worry about the next meal, what they’ll do if their children get sick, or if they’ll have a roof over their head. The free market, more than once, has had to be saved by Democrats because an economy serves the people, not the other way around.

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dangerman  Feb 28, 2018 • 6:05:31am

re: #59 Anymouse 🌹

But liebruls want to force bakers to sell TEH GEYHS wedding cakes!

There is a pharmacy in Scottsbluff that does not sell any form of contraception. They say that does not align with their religious beliefs.

That was the first and last time I went there. When we asked about it, that was the answer we got. We told them we would take our business elsewhere.

I should have been clearer..it’s early yet

Public accommodation laws excepted
And I was speaking strictly of the 2a which is pretty clear in the subject

It’s silent on acquiring

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2018 • 6:09:19am

re: #57 Barefoot Grin

Warning: massive projection incoming from Florida—-

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You got nominated based off you using anger from Crist being too nice to Obama…

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darthstar  Feb 28, 2018 • 6:11:32am
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makeitstop  Feb 28, 2018 • 6:13:29am

You know, when you add it all up (2 flipped seats in special elections, Fox having to concede a lie, Jared getting stripped of his clearance, more pushback on guns), yesterday was a pretty good day.

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Belafon  Feb 28, 2018 • 6:15:57am

I can’t copy the cartoon over, but it’s worth the look because we know that’s what would happen with armed black teachers: dailykos.com

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 28, 2018 • 6:19:03am

re: #72 dangerman

I should have been clearer..it’s early yet

Public accommodation laws excepted
And I was speaking strictly of the 2a which is pretty clear in the subject

It’s silent on acquiring

It’s late for me (the sun is already up so it’s past my bedtime). I fully expect someone to draw that comparison though.

Libertarians today (and conservatives since they came about) have always opposed public accommodation laws.

The argument I give when someone says something like “well, if that business doesn’t want you, the free market/liberty/name something” says you can take your business elsewhere.

That’s great. I’m an atheist in a town where everyone knows I’m an atheist. If the general store here refuses me service because of religious beliefs, I am forced to go to one of two stores in the county seat sixteen miles away, where everyone also knows I’m an atheist. If they also refuse me service, I’m forced to go to Sidney or Scottsbluff, sixty miles away (and some people know me in both those places).

The reality of “the right to refuse service to anyone” means I could be forced to go shopping for groceries at the Air Force base in Cheyenne 130 miles away.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 28, 2018 • 6:20:21am
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darthstar  Feb 28, 2018 • 6:22:54am
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Dave In Austin  Feb 28, 2018 • 6:23:42am
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Alephnaught  Feb 28, 2018 • 6:24:03am

Greetings from snowy Glasgow. Today the Met Office has announced a rare Red Warning for snow in the Central Belt of Scotland, that lasts from 3pm (ie less than an hour from now) until 10am the following morning. (It doesn’t fully cover Glasgow, but the rest of Glasgow has an Amber warning.)

As a result, I’ve been working from home today, and my other half has just arrived home as all the offices are shutting early so everyone can be home by 3pm, as per Traffic Scotland’s advice:

Most of Ireland’s also under a Red Warning too.

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darthstar  Feb 28, 2018 • 6:24:59am
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dangerman  Feb 28, 2018 • 6:25:09am

re: #77 Anymouse 🌹

It’s late for me (the sun is already up so it’s past my bedtime). I fully expect someone to draw that comparison though.

Libertarians today (and conservatives since they came about) have always opposed public accommodation laws.

The argument I give when someone says something like “well, if that business doesn’t want you, the free market/liberty/name something” says you can take your business elsewhere.

That’s great. I’m an atheist in a town where everyone knows I’m an atheist. If the general store here refuses me service because of religious beliefs, I am forced to go to one of two stores in the county seat sixteen miles away, where everyone also knows I’m an atheist. If they also refuse me service, I’m forced to go to Sidney or Scottsbluff, sixty miles away (and some people know me in both those places).

The reality of “the right to refuse service to anyone” means I could be forced to go shopping for groceries at the Air Force base in Cheyenne 130 miles away.

Yourre right. You can’t always take your business elsewhere
And the free market doesn’t always have a solution and doesn’t move very fast to create one

They figure all us troublemakers live in coastal librul cities
Gotta be easier in a city right? Nope not so much

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ObserverArt  Feb 28, 2018 • 6:26:27am

re: #37 Dave In Austin

For all your sporting good needs. I buy lots of fishing gear here.

DICK’S Sporting Goods ✔
@DICKS
At the same time, we implore our elected officials to enact common sense gun reform and pass the following regulations: d.sg

7:51 AM - Feb 28, 2018

Morning!

It’s good to see a place like DICK’S Soorting Goods make this statement. It will hurt a bit as they lose a category of guns they sell.

But look at it this way too. A safer nation with less deaths of people, especially young people, means more customers alive in the long run that can be your customers. Also, more people might be more active publically which could mean more people out in the parks and at schools playing sports.

That is a good thing right?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 28, 2018 • 6:26:52am

re: #82 darthstar

The reason we have that 45 year low is because NO ONE wants to come here anymore thanks to this fuckers crazy ass policies. This is Trump gloating about isolating our country.

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darthstar  Feb 28, 2018 • 6:27:13am
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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Feb 28, 2018 • 6:28:39am

It occurred to me that NRA cultists want the AR-15 rifles for the same reason psychotic mass shooters do: They can mow down a crowd of people without giving the victims a chance to overwhelm the shooter and beat him to death while he re-loads or re-cocks. For the psycho, this is the people in a mall or a classroom. For the cultist it is the zombie-like swarms of inner city blacks who will pour into the ‘burbs “as soon as the welfare checks stop.” I’ve seen it expressed in those terms more than once.

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lawhawk  Feb 28, 2018 • 6:29:18am

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area. Dick’s has finally chosen not to be a dick about gun sales and is unilaterally deciding not to sell to anyone under age 21 and will no longer carry semi auto rifles or extended magazines.

That’s a good first step.

Of course, the right wingers will bray endlessly that this is somehow depriving them of their rights.

Same with the fact that Delta ended their voluntary discount program for the NRA members.

None of this is discriminatory.

Of course, the GOP remains bought and paid for by the NRA (and gun makers). Rubio’s getting ratio’d. Heh. He deserves to be dragged for his nonsensical ravings and claims that this is about “Judea-Christian heritage”. Bullshit. It’s about the fact that you and the GOP do nothing about gun violence because you’re owned by the NRA.

And then there’s the fact that Trumpworld is a cesspool of hypocrisy around handling of classified info.

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Eventual Carrion  Feb 28, 2018 • 6:29:52am

re: #57 Barefoot Grin

Warning: massive projection incoming from Florida—-

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I claim no such christian heritage.

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Unshaken Defiance  Feb 28, 2018 • 6:30:31am

So let’s say you own an assault style gun. And you support he end of sales. Are you morally obligated to destroy it and deregister? Maybe right?

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darthstar  Feb 28, 2018 • 6:33:15am
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ObserverArt  Feb 28, 2018 • 6:33:30am

re: #42 Dave In Austin

This one is going to hurt…..

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And WalMart stops sales of assault rifles too.

What is happening?

Damn youngsters in Florida are screwing up this world. Now we have stores making decisions that our spineless politicians cannot make.

What is this…corporations ignoring gun nuts rights and 2A protections?

This is downright unAmerican

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Jay C  Feb 28, 2018 • 6:35:54am

re: #87 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

It occurred to me that NRA cultists want the AR-15 rifles for the same reason psychotic mass shooter do: They can mow down a crowd of people without giving the victims a chance to overwhelm the shooter and beat him to death while he re-loads or re-cocks. For the psycho, this is the people in a mall or a classroom. For the cultist it is the zombie-like swarms of inner city blacks who will pour into the ‘burbs “as soon as the welfare checks stop.” I’ve seen it expressed in those terms more than once.

So what, then is the qualitative difference between “NRA cultist” and “psychotic mass shooter”? The former simply manage to keep a bit more of a lid on their urges?

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darthstar  Feb 28, 2018 • 6:37:04am
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lawhawk  Feb 28, 2018 • 6:37:12am

re: #93 Jay C

So what, then is the qualitative difference between “NRA cultist” and “psychotic mass shooter”? The former simply manage to keep a bit more of a lid on their urges?

It’s the difference between the mythical “good guy with a gun” who lawfully buys guns and suddenly turns into a deadly mass murderer in the blink of an eye (despite all the warning signs like domestic violence, threats, etc.)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 28, 2018 • 6:38:15am

You just know some company is going to pick up the slack and start selling AR-15s en masse.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 28, 2018 • 6:38:17am

re: #83 dangerman

Yourre right. You can’t always take your business elsewhere
And the free market doesn’t always have a solution and doesn’t move very fast to create one

They figure all us troublemakers live in coastal librul cities
Gotta be easier in a city right? Nope not so much

The idea of Jim Crow was not so much that states or municipalities legislated against minorities in those areas.

It went more like this: There are three hotels in town. Two of those won’t accommodate African-Americans, and the other doesn’t care about anything except whether you can pay.

A disinterested free market would seem to indicate the hotel which accepts all comers who can pay would have a business advantage against the other two who lock out some potential customers over skin colour.

Economic models don’t really account for things like bigotry though. The reality of the situation is the other two hotels put out loud and proud they don’t let “those kind” in their establishments, and imply that the other hotel is somehow creating immorality or other codswallop, based in their own bigotry.

The free market, playing on bigotry, sinks the hotel that is willing to do business with everyone.

Repeat that across Dixie (and some northern areas), and you have de facto apartheid. For that reason Negro Motorist Green Book was created, so African-American travelers could find accommodations, restaurants, gasoline stations, &c which would serve them.

Sadly, the Green Book has been resurrected on Facebook, because it is needed again.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Feb 28, 2018 • 6:38:27am

re: #93 Jay C

So what, then is the qualitative difference between “NRA cultist” and “psychotic mass shooter”? The former simply manage to keep a bit more of a lid on their urges?

That’s pretty much it.

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ObserverArt  Feb 28, 2018 • 6:40:53am

re: #57 Barefoot Grin

Warning: massive projection incoming from Florida—-

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Well Marco Rubio can go fuck himself for that statement.

I have never liked the guy, now I have a serious hate. That fucker is all butthurt because a bunch of young people and the people that support them made him look bad. It’s how the system works you punk. Oh wait, that would be politics, something you are clueless about as a politician.

You know why you looked bad Marco?

Because you don’t stand for anything. There is nothing inside Marco except a desire to be an empty politician. Marco would have done this country much better had he stuck to his word when he said he was out of politics and would not run again.

Resign Marco. Go cry somewhere else.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 28, 2018 • 6:41:09am

re: #90 Unshaken Defiance

So let’s say you own an assault style gun. And you support he end of sales. Are you morally obligated to destroy it and deregister? Maybe right?

Personally, I am for titling guns (all guns, not just semi-automatic rifles and pistols) in the same manner as cars, houses, or boats. I also favor competency in the manner of the NRA’s own safety rules, except putting those rules in play by law with penalties for failure to comply.

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darthstar  Feb 28, 2018 • 6:41:34am

Here’s the full Dick’s sporting goods message:

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 28, 2018 • 6:41:55am

re: #99 ObserverArt

Marco Rubio can go fuck himself for a lot of things.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 28, 2018 • 6:42:04am

re: #94 darthstar

Can somebody do a welfare check on Dana Mah Gunz?

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A Mom Anon  Feb 28, 2018 • 6:43:12am

re: #103 Sir John Barron

No.

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Alephnaught  Feb 28, 2018 • 6:43:46am

BTW Here is the weather in Glasgow in the past 20 minutes:

And the weather just outside Glasgow- with musical accompaniment!

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Sir John Barron  Feb 28, 2018 • 6:43:51am

re: #88 lawhawk

The debate after #Parkland reminds us We The People don’t really like each other very much.We smear those who refuse to agree with us.We claim a Judea-Christian heritage but celebrate arrogance & boasting. & worst of all we have infected the next generation with the same disease

— Marco Rubio

Remember when mister Judeo-Christian pure citizen Rubio bragged about sabotaging Obamacare insurance networks? Good times.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 28, 2018 • 6:45:42am

re: #37 Dave In Austin

For all your sporting good needs. I buy lots of fishing gear here.

Nobody I know buys guns at Dicks!

Also

Boycott Dicks they’re attacking the 2nd Amendment!

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2018 • 6:46:00am

re: #106 Sir John Barron

Remember when mister Judeo-Christian pure citizen Rubio bragged about sabotaging Obamacare insurance networks? Good times.

I really hate Rubio’s fake pious act and I suspect Florida voters are feeling the same way judging by their approval rating.

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sagehen  Feb 28, 2018 • 6:46:58am

re: #101 darthstar

Here’s the full Dick’s sporting goods message:

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Dick’s had already gone semi-SJW a couple of years ago, after a little girl basketball player wrote to them to complain that their catalog and ads only depicted little boy athletes.

They got a lot of good press out of saying “oh you’re so right; we’ll fix that immediately.” and since then having gender parity in said catalogs and ads.

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dangerman  Feb 28, 2018 • 6:47:09am

re: #97 Anymouse 🌹

The idea of Jim Crow was not so much that states or municipalities legislated against minorities in those areas.

It went more like this: There are three hotels in town. Two of those won’t accommodate African-Americans, and the other doesn’t care about anything except whether you can pay.

A disinterested free market would seem to indicate the hotel which accepts all comers who can pay would have a business advantage against the other two who lock out some potential customers over skin colour.

Economic models don’t really account for things like bigotry though. The reality of the situation is the other two hotels put out loud and proud they don’t let “those kind” in their establishments, and imply that the other hotel is somehow creating immorality or other codswallop, based in their own bigotry.

The free market, playing on bigotry, sinks the hotel that is willing to do business with everyone.

Repeat that across Dixie (and some northern areas), and you have de facto apartheid. For that reason Negro Motorist Green Book was created, so African-American travelers could find accommodations, restaurants, gasoline stations, &c which would serve them.

Sadly, the Green Book has been resurrected on Facebook, because it is needed again.

Exactly so
In fact small towns aren’t free markets. Not enough competition in each sector

For free market principles to work there have to be enough small actors and none of them can have outsized influence by any means

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Feb 28, 2018 • 6:48:20am

re: #101 darthstar

Here’s the full Dick’s sporting goods message:

“It was not the gun, nor type of gun, he used in the shooting.
But it could have been.”

I think the CEO heard the wings of the Angel of Death beating close by and decided to distance himself.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2018 • 6:48:26am

re: #110 dangerman

Exactly so
In fact small towns aren’t free markets. Not enough competition in each sector

For free market principles to work there have to be enough small actors and none of them can have outsized influence by any means

I had a wingnut acquaintance back in the day who always suggested “Well just move if you don’t like the laws in your state.” It’s not that simple.

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dangerman  Feb 28, 2018 • 6:49:31am

re: #99 ObserverArt

Well Marco Rubio can go fuck himself for that statement.

I have never liked the guy, now I have a serious hate. That fucker is all butthurt because a bunch of young people and the people that support him made him look bad. It’s how the system works you punk. Oh wait, that would be politics, something you are clueless about as a politician.

You know why you looked bad Marco?

Because you don’t stand for anything. There is nothing inside Marco except a desire to be an empty politician. Marco would have done this country much better had he stuck to his word when he said he was out of politics and would not run again.

Resign Marco. Go cry somewhere else.

They didn’t make him look bad

They allowed him to present and expose his own true nature

They merely said please proceed and he did.

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fern01  Feb 28, 2018 • 6:50:31am

re: #3 goddamnedfrank

The awesome thing about this is that right wingers will never believe the truth and that was the goal all along.

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The end of the linked article

The spat led to several conservative website stories accusing CNN of a pro-gun control bias.

And what is wrong with CNN having a pro gun control bias? Sanity has a pro gun control bias. It’s time the media stops complying with RW hacks and starts telling the truth.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 28, 2018 • 6:50:57am

re: #108 HappyWarrior

I really hate Rubio’s fake pious act and I suspect Florida voters are feeling the same way judging by their approval rating.

I mean I’m glad he faced the survivors on CNN’s town hall on guns, but since then he’s gone all passive-aggressive.

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dangerman  Feb 28, 2018 • 6:51:26am

re: #107 Sir John Barron

Nobody I know buys guns at Dicks!

Also

Boycott Dicks they’re attacking the 2nd Amendment!

Damn kosher butcher refuses to sell bacon

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Sir John Barron  Feb 28, 2018 • 6:52:01am

re: #115 Sir John Barron

I mean I’m glad he faced the survivors on CNN’s town hall on guns, but since then he’s gone all passive-aggressive.

Area man is shocked, shocked, to discover that people are angry at getting shot at and want their political system to help them and other children not get shot at again.

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fern01  Feb 28, 2018 • 6:52:28am

re: #5 Anymouse 🌹

Worth posting again, President Obama’s official photographer trolling Trump’s “witch hunt” tweet this morning:

[Embedded content]

When the WH was occupied by adults & full of fun and laughter as well as an administration who knew what they were doing. I miss President Obama

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2018 • 6:52:52am

re: #115 Sir John Barron

I mean I’m glad he faced the survivors on CNN’s town hall on guns, but since then he’s gone all passive-aggressive.

Absolutely. I’m glad he did that too but he clearly didn’t listen to the kids.

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sagehen  Feb 28, 2018 • 6:54:07am

re: #113 dangerman

They didn’t make him look bad

They allowed him to present and expose his own true nature

They merely said please proceed and he did.

“Elective office doesn’t change your character. It reveals your character.”
—Barack Obama

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 28, 2018 • 6:54:19am

re: #57 Barefoot Grin

Warning: massive projection incoming from Florida—-

Senator Rubio is on the bad end of the Twitter ratio.

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dangerman  Feb 28, 2018 • 6:54:33am

re: #112 HappyWarrior

I had a wingnut acquaintance back in the day who always suggested “Well just move if you don’t like the laws in your state.” It’s not that simple.

Sure cause everyone has the means to “,just move”. Forget schools jobs family savings and a thousand other factors

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2018 • 6:54:58am

re: #116 dangerman

Damn kosher butcher refuses to sell bacon

Idiot wingnuts think that’s the same thing as a wedding cake refusing to serve to someone for being gay. Uh no, And it’s not the same as what Delta is doing either. The equivalent would be Delta refusing to allow NRA members to buy plane tickets.

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A Mom Anon  Feb 28, 2018 • 6:55:11am

re: #115 Sir John Barron
This sort of bullshit makes me wonder what he’s being blackmailed with. Because if it’s only the money, he could make that up by doing the right thing. True Gunhumpers are not the majority, doing the right thing here just might end with donations. Unless the NRA is holding a job open for him….

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2018 • 6:56:25am

re: #122 dangerman

Sure cause everyone has the means to “,just move”. Forget schools jobs family savings and a thousand other factors

Exactly. It was one of the most tone deaf things I ever saw. The guy honestly was far from the most nasty wingnut I’ve known but easily among the most tone deaf.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Feb 28, 2018 • 6:56:33am

re: #124 A Mom Anon

This sort of bullshit makes me wonder what he’s being blackmailed with. Because if it’s only the money, he could make that up by doing the right thing. True Gunhumpers are not the majority, doing the right thing here just might end with donations. Unless the NRA is holding a job open for him….

I wonder if the NRA benefits from Russian kompromat.

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ObserverArt  Feb 28, 2018 • 6:56:39am

re: #96 Eclectic Cyborg

You just know some company is going to pick up the slack and start selling AR-15s en masse.

I’m an optimist. I don’t know, and I am not going to fret about it because when the nation’s largest retailer makes a move it sends a message.

How about we wait to see how all this goes because we are on a fresh path right now.

Besides, if someone else picks up the sales, then it really would still be the same amount of guns that would have been sold anyway.

But if it starts making people look at this in a new way maybe someone like a friend, a wife or husband, a girlfriend or boyfriend, or a mother and father might tell a potential gun buyer that it is no longer cool to do because the big retailers are not selling them. And if they decide not to buy…that is one less gun.

Small steps.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2018 • 6:56:52am

re: #124 A Mom Anon

This sort of bullshit makes me wonder what he’s being blackmailed with. Because if it’s only the money, he could make that up by doing the right thing. True Gunhumpers are not the majority, doing the right thing here just might end with donations. Unless the NRA is holding a job open for him….

I think he really thinks he can still be President.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2018 • 6:57:32am

re: #126 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

I wonder if the NRA benefits from Russian kompromat.

That’s definitely something I wonder about too and furthermore why they may have worked with the Russians.

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A Mom Anon  Feb 28, 2018 • 6:58:18am

re: #125 HappyWarrior

When they talk shit like that, I ask them how easy it is to relocate if their state became too liberal for their comfort.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2018 • 7:01:26am

re: #130 A Mom Anon

When they talk shit like that, I ask them how easy it is to relocate if their state became too liberal for their comfort.

Exactly. I no longer talk with this person. It just amazes me how tone deaf conservatives are about basic civil rights. Anyhow AM got at in a better way than I can since he lives it the folly of “Just shop somewhere else.” The real folly is when they want to support the Kim Davis’s of the world refusing to do things. I asked it last night but I wonder how a liberal clerk refusing to issue conceal carry permits would go over and furthermore if the Democratic Party turned that person into a martyr the way the Republicans did with Kim.

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makeitstop  Feb 28, 2018 • 7:02:45am

I just ran out to get cough medicine for the wife, and the stock market report says Dick’s is up 1% on the news of discontinuing gun sales. Good on ‘em, may they all make a pile of money due to this decision.

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ObserverArt  Feb 28, 2018 • 7:03:02am

re: #113 dangerman

They didn’t make him look bad

They allowed him to present and expose his own true nature

They merely said please proceed and he did.

You really think Marco could ever come to accepting that he screwed up?

Read the tweet. He’s blaming the kids. It is never Marco’s fault.

In Marco’s empty head he felt disrespected. That is saying they made him look bad.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2018 • 7:03:17am

re: #132 makeitstop

I just ran out to get cough medicine for the wife, and the stock market report says Dick’s is up 1% on the news of discontinuing gun sales. Good on ‘em, may they all make a pile of money due to this decision.

I got my latest beanie from them. They’re a good shop.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2018 • 7:04:03am

re: #133 ObserverArt

You really think Marco could ever come to accepting that he screwed up?

Read the tweet. He’s blaming the kids. It is never Marco’s fault.

In Marco’s empty head he felt disrespected. That is saying they made him look bad.

I think DM is pretty much saying the same thing you are but rather that the kids didn’t make Marco look bad, Marco was who he’s always been and more people saw it.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 28, 2018 • 7:04:22am

re: #90 Unshaken Defiance

So let’s say you own an assault style gun. And you support he end of sales. Are you morally obligated to destroy it and deregister? Maybe right?

Why? Just secure it very well against misuse. It’s a chunk of steel and plastic, not a voodoo doll.

One never knows, do one?

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 28, 2018 • 7:05:11am

re: #20 Anymouse 🌹

He also makes a claim I am going to have to research because I believe it to be bullshit: claiming the DOJ says more people have been killed with bare hands than guns.

That bogus RW talking point comes from this FBI chart which shows that more people have been beaten to death with hands, feet, fists, than killed with a certain type of firearm without counting other types of firearms.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2018 • 7:06:04am

Anyhow, what’s always amused me about conservatives is how they’re able to accept overreach on a state or local level i.e. sodomy laws, drug laws, etc or on a corporate level. I could honestly respect though not really agree with conservatives/libertarians if they conceded that states and corporations can go too far too but they don’t by and large. Ron Paul rightfully IMO condemned the drug war but ignored things like state laws that were quite Draconian and the rise of private prisons.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2018 • 7:06:58am

re: #137 The Vicious Babushka

That bogus RW talking point comes from this FBI chart which shows that more people have been beaten to death with hands, feet, fists, than killed with a certain type of firearm without counting other types of firearms.

Which totally ignores one key thing, my fists aren’t meant to kill, a gun is specifically designed for that purpose especially the guns we want banned.

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makeitstop  Feb 28, 2018 • 7:07:29am

re: #134 HappyWarrior

I got my latest beanie from them. They’re a good shop.

They sponsor a summer concert series at one of the malls out here. I played a couple of shows there last year, and the photos are funny because it shows the band playing with a bigass sign that reads DICK’S behind them.

Pretty fitting for some of the bands I know (and some of them would say the same about me!). :)

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2018 • 7:09:21am

If I had to describe my philosophy, I believe in Hamiltonian means in promoting Jefferson’s vision as outlined in the Declaration and Madison’s in the Constitution. I believe in a large country especially all is interconnected and it makes little sense to me to have something as essential as the right to marry who you want legal in one state and illegal in another. Funnily enough I’m descended from people who resided in border regions in Europe.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2018 • 7:09:50am

re: #140 makeitstop

They sponsor a summer concert series at one of the malls out here. I played a couple of shows there last year, and the photos are funny because it shows the band playing with a bigass sign that reads DICK’S behind them.

Pretty fitting for some of the bands I know (and some of them would say the same about me!). :)

Ha!

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makeitstop  Feb 28, 2018 • 7:10:29am

Manafort apparently fears getting killed by Russian thugs more than he fears the US legal system. Please proceed, numbskull.

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ObserverArt  Feb 28, 2018 • 7:11:02am

re: #135 HappyWarrior

I think DM is pretty much saying the same thing you are but rather that the kids didn’t make Marco look bad, Marco was who he’s always been and more people saw it.

I know it, you know it, dangerman knows it.

Marco does not know it. We are talking about Marco. Why would he cry like this:

We The People don’t really like each other very much.We smear those who refuse to agree with us.We claim a Judea-Christian heritage but celebrate arrogance & boasting. & worst of all we have infected the next generation with the same disease

…if he didn’t feel like he was made to look bad?

(I am not disagreeing with you or dangerman…just looking at it from a punk politicians fucked up view of others. He has no respect for anyone)

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A Mom Anon  Feb 28, 2018 • 7:15:23am

Here’s a question or six that’s been nagging me a little:

Let’s say we manage to get these types of weapons banned. What happens to all the ones out there in the hands of who knows?

Will there be buybacks where the guns are then destroyed? Are there laws in places that prevent this locally?

What happens then to people who have them once a ban is passed? There needs to be serious consequences in place for people who think these laws don’t apply to them.

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MsJ  Feb 28, 2018 • 7:19:17am

re: #57 Barefoot Grin

Warning: massive projection incoming from Florida—-

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Sir John Barron  Feb 28, 2018 • 7:21:23am

re: #146 MsJ

The debate after #Parkland reminds us We The People don’t really like each other very much.We smear those who refuse to agree with us.We claim a Judea-Christian heritage but celebrate arrogance & boasting. & worst of all we have infected the next generation with the same disease

— Marco Rubio

Who’s gonna tell Rubio about Donald Trump?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 28, 2018 • 7:22:19am

re: #43 Anymouse 🌹

I guess I’ll have to agree to disagree. Conservatism has always supported ideas such as your station of birth determines your life. It supported the Crown in the American Revolution. It supported slavery and the ownership of people over human rights (and fought a war to defend that).

Conservatism is more of a descriptive term than a determinative one, and has changed over time.

Conservative can simply mean “opposed to change”, and that applied to opposition to changing things like women and minority rights, and especially to changing accepted notions of property rights, namely that the socially privileged should control more property.

The “conservative ideal” of course is that you should be able to rise to the station in life that your skills and abilities bring you.

But when a young black man did that, worked hard, attended Harvard, etc., and rose to the highest office in the land, he was not praised as an example of the American Dream in action but rather derided as an affirmative-action coaster, a secret Muslim and not even a legally eligible US native.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 28, 2018 • 7:23:10am

re: #138 HappyWarrior

Anyhow, what’s always amused me about conservatives is how they’re able to accept overreach on a state or local level i.e. sodomy laws, drug laws, etc or on a corporate level. I could honestly respect though not really agree with conservatives/libertarians if they conceded that states and corporations can go too far too but they don’t by and large. Ron Paul rightfully IMO condemned the drug war but ignored things like state laws that were quite Draconian and the rise of private prisons.

Government is bad except for the only lawfully constituted government which is the state local sheriff except when that sheriff does something I don’t like.

/

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dangerman  Feb 28, 2018 • 7:23:42am

re: #133 ObserverArt

You really think Marco could ever come to accepting that he screwed up?

Read the tweet. He’s blaming the kids. It is never Marco’s fault.

In Marco’s empty head he felt disrespected. That is saying they made him look bad.

well im talking reality
he’s just butthurt and wont take personal responsibility for his actions, positions, and the consequences of his positions

a u.s. senator who thinks “they made me” is a child not to be taken seriously

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makeitstop  Feb 28, 2018 • 7:25:27am

re: #145 A Mom Anon

Here’s a question or six that’s been nagging me a little:

Let’s say we manage to get these types of weapons banned. What happens to all the ones out there in the hands of who knows?

Will there be buybacks where the guns are then destroyed? Are there laws in places that prevent this locally?

What happens then to people who have them once a ban is passed? There needs to be serious consequences in place for people who think these laws don’t apply to them.

I was talking to a friend about this the other day. I told him that I wouldn’t even be against some sort of grandfather clause for some of those guns. If someone has owned an AR for 15 or 20 years and hasn’t gone on a murderous rampage yet, it’s probably safe to assume they won’t.

Otherwise, a buyback program, for the current market rate. Then a very public video of all the bought-back guns being fed into a smelter or run over by a steamroller.

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Lupin  Feb 28, 2018 • 7:27:21am

As H*ll freezes over, I find myself admiring John Major.

Guardian

We’ve gotten so used to those petty conniving freaks that we forgot what a statesman looks like.

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Lupin  Feb 28, 2018 • 7:28:25am

Somehow Manafort has an escape plan. Is it a pardon or something else? I can’t figure it out, but it feels as if he’s got one.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 28, 2018 • 7:28:34am

re: #112 HappyWarrior

I had a wingnut acquaintance back in the day who always suggested “Well just move if you don’t like the laws in your state.” It’s not that simple.

We did that when Mary Fallin and the wingnut crew were elected in Oklahoma, taking a loss on our house there to move here. We can’t afford to do that again.

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dangerman  Feb 28, 2018 • 7:28:54am

re: #141 HappyWarrior

If I had to describe my philosophy, I believe in Hamiltonian means in promoting Jefferson’s vision as outlined in the Declaration and Madison’s in the Constitution. I believe in a large country especially all is interconnected and it makes little sense to me to have something as essential as the right to marry who you want legal in one state and illegal in another. Funnily enough I’m descended from people who resided in border regions in Europe.

some types of mechanics can function perfectly well within a state’s boundaries while different states have different positions on the issue. though proximity between states could be a problem

other types of mechanics are more universal and a patchwork system will not, er, work

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Decatur Deb  Feb 28, 2018 • 7:29:16am

re: #151 makeitstop

I was talking to a friend about this the other day. I told him that I wouldn’t even be against some sort of grandfather clause for some of those guns. If someone has owned an AR for 15 or 20 years and hasn’t gone on a murderous rampage yet, it’s probably safe to assume they won’t.

Otherwise, a buyback program, for the current market rate. Then a very public video of all the bought-back guns being fed into a smelter or run over by a steamroller.

The ‘installed base’ of those guns is worth roughly a billion dollars at current market. Every one of them destroyed post-ban would increase the cost of the remainder.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 28, 2018 • 7:29:38am

Is that fucker Rubio up for re-election this year or is he safe for another 4 years?

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Decatur Deb  Feb 28, 2018 • 7:30:42am

re: #157 Eclectic Cyborg

Is that fucker Rubio up for re-election this year or is he safe for another 4 years?

Five years— he was re-elected in 2016, IIRC.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 28, 2018 • 7:31:35am

re: #115 Sir John Barron

I mean I’m glad he faced the survivors on CNN’s town hall on guns, but since then he’s gone all passive-aggressive.

I’m not. That’s the literal least he could do as a Senator (meet his constituents). He doesn’t get a participation trophy for doing his job.

Senator Rubio could have elevated himself on nationwide television by showing compassion or standing for something. He did not.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2018 • 7:32:04am

re: #154 Anymouse 🌹

We did that when Mary Fallin and the wingnut crew were elected in Oklahoma, taking a loss on our house there to move here. We can’t afford to do that again.

Yeah it’s idiotic.

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dangerman  Feb 28, 2018 • 7:32:30am

re: #153 Lupin

Somehow Manafort has an escape plan. Is it a pardon or something else? I can’t figure it out, but it feels as if he’s got one.

he’s stalling

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 28, 2018 • 7:33:18am

Really pleased at the Dick’s news, but for the love of dog, please get more help in your shoe department! In our local store it’s usual a single hapless teenager trying to fetch shoes for several customers as others look on.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2018 • 7:33:31am

re: #158 Decatur Deb

Five years— he was re-elected in 2016, IIRC.

It’d be four but yeah he was just re-elected. He should have just resigned like he promised he would but then he suddenly “cared” after Pulse. I think the real reason why he stayed is he thought Trump would lose to HRC and he’d be the “next man up” in 2020 to run against HRC.

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Lupin  Feb 28, 2018 • 7:33:32am

re: #161 dangerman

I don’t think so. What would he be stalling for?

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makeitstop  Feb 28, 2018 • 7:34:38am

re: #153 Lupin

Somehow Manafort has an escape plan. Is it a pardon or something else? I can’t figure it out, but it feels as if he’s got one.

I think it’s more like he has a choice - take his chances at trial and probably end up enjoying the fine facilities of the US prison system, or spill his guts and wind up shooting himself in the back of the head six times and then falling out a window at Trump Tower.

He does not want to make enemies of his current ‘friends.’

And I’d wager that in addition to the federal charges, NY AG Schneiderman has got some state charges in the pipeline, which are pardon-proof.

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CarolJ  Feb 28, 2018 • 7:36:43am

re: #165 makeitstopThen he’s screwed, with no good options. I wonder if he’s willing to talk to Mueller about the Witness Protection Program.

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Lupin  Feb 28, 2018 • 7:37:25am

re: #165 makeitstop

I think it’s more like he has a choice - take his chances at trial and probably end up enjoying the fine facilities of the US prison system, or spill his guts and wind up shooting himself in the back of the head six time and then falling out a window at Trump Tower.

He does not want to make enemies of his current ‘friends.’

And I’d wager that in addition to the federal charges, NY AG Schneiderman has got some state charges in the pipeline, which are pardon-proof.

Andorra is less than 100 miles from where I live, it’s very nice and it has no extradition treaty with the US. Maybe I should contact Manafort? :-)

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 28, 2018 • 7:37:33am

I still remember Trump saying at one (or more?) of his rallies something like “I know some tough guys, really bad guys….”

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 28, 2018 • 7:37:51am

re: #133 ObserverArt

You really think Marco could ever come to accepting that he screwed up?

Read the tweet. He’s blaming the kids. It is never Marco’s fault.

In Marco’s empty head he felt disrespected. That is saying they made him look bad.

Conservatism can’t fail, it can only be failed. Marco is now defending his religious faith with apologetics. Apologetics includes attacking those who do not believe your faith, because the apologist confuses “what he believes” with “who he is.”

Marco Rubio follows the Conservative Religion. He must defend the faith because it defines who he is. I see no difference between such politicians and evangelists.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 28, 2018 • 7:38:51am

re: #159 Anymouse 🌹

I’m not. That’s the literal least he could do as a Senator (meet his constituents). He doesn’t get a participation trophy for doing his job.

Senator Rubio could have elevated himself on nationwide television by showing compassion or standing for something. He did not.

I know the bar has really been lowered, but at least he showed up; Rick Scott didn’t.

I’m really amazed at the poise of these kids. No way I could handle all the attention they’re getting, all the professional wingnuts coming after them.

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Lupin  Feb 28, 2018 • 7:39:13am

From wiki. I can think of several countries on that list where, if you’ve got money, life wouldn’t be a hardship.

The United States maintains diplomatic relations but, according to the above-mentioned list, does not have extradition treaties with the following countries:

Afghanistan
Algeria
Andorra
Angola
Bahrain
Bangladesh
Belarus
Botswana
Brunei
Burkina Faso
Burma
Burundi
Cambodia
Cameroon
Cape Verde
Central African Republic
Chad
China (except Hong Kong)
Comoros
Congo (Kinshasa)
Djibouti
Equatorial Guinea
Eritrea
Ethiopia
Gabon
Guinea
Guinea-Bissau
Indonesia
Ivory Coast
Kazakhstan
Kuwait
Laos
Lebanon
Libya
Madagascar
Maldives
Mali
Marshall Islands
Mauritania
Micronesia
Moldova
Mongolia
Morocco
Mozambique
Namibia
Nepal
Niger
Oman
Qatar
Russia
Rwanda
Samoa
São Tomé & Príncipe
Saudi Arabia
Senegal
Somalia
Sudan
South Sudan
Togo
Tunisia
Uganda
Ukraine
United Arab Emirates
Uzbekistan
Vanuatu
Vatican City
Vietnam
Yemen

And the countries formerly part of Yugoslavia:

Bosnia and Herzegovina
Croatia
Kosovo
Macedonia
Montenegro
Serbia

As well as these countries that have no diplomatic relations with the United States:

Bhutan
Iran (relations severed in 1980)
North Korea
Syria (relations suspended in 2012)

Even the partially recognized countries that have no diplomatic relations with but not recognized by the United States:

Abkhazia
Artsakh
Northern Cyprus
Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic
Somaliland
South Ossetia
Taiwan
Transnistria

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2018 • 7:39:44am

re: #168 Barefoot Grin

I still remember Trump saying at one (or more?) of his rallies something like “I know some tough guys, really bad guys….”

Trump I think has mob connections which I think makes Giuliani’s sucking up to him all the more weird. Chertoff, Rudy’s former fellow mob prosecutor even endorsed HRC IIRC. Not a fan of his but I thought the divergent path those two took in 2016 was interesting. I’m reading a history of the Five Families right now. Trump Tower got mentioned once thus far but I think Trump himself may appear more now since I’m getting into the rise of Gotti.

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dangerman  Feb 28, 2018 • 7:40:08am

re: #164 Lupin

I don’t think so. What would he be stalling for?

mueller keeps building a stronger and stronger case for more time in prison
a pardon wont help him in NY or VA
and if he turns on his russian pals, could he be got to even in a supermax prison?

of course, im just guessing - he has no good moves so he’s stalling for time
hoping for something - i dont know what
or more time for his lawyers to think or maneuver - again i dont know for what

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 28, 2018 • 7:40:25am

Oops.

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dangerman  Feb 28, 2018 • 7:43:28am

re: #174 Barefoot Grin

Oops.

I literally have never heard of anyone buying a gun at Dick’s. Sounds like they’re trying to ingratiate themselves while winding down inventory to save money.

I’ve never heard of it
so how real could it be?

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 28, 2018 • 7:43:33am

re: #137 The Vicious Babushka

That bogus RW talking point comes from this FBI chart which shows that more people have been beaten to death with hands, feet, fists, than killed with a certain type of firearm without counting other types of firearms.

Thank you. I will save that for my rebuttal letter.

The problem with that guy’s letter to the editor is it’s a Gish Gallop. The Star-Herald only allows four hundred-word letters, so rebutting all his wingnut talking points and keeping it within four hundred words will be hard.

I’ve done it before with them, so it’s more a writing challenge.

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Lupin  Feb 28, 2018 • 7:44:58am

In fact why is Manafort not in Moscow right now? It’s bizarre. If Snowden could make it, surely Manafort could have.

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ObserverArt  Feb 28, 2018 • 7:46:07am

re: #172 HappyWarrior

Trump I think has mob connections which I think makes Giuliani’s sucking up to him all the more weird. Chertoff, Rudy’s former fellow mob prosecutor even endorsed HRC IIRC. Not a fan of his but I thought the divergent path those two took in 2016 was interesting. I’m reading a history of the Five Families right now. Trump Tower got mentioned once thus far but I think Trump himself may appear more now since I’m getting into the rise of Gotti.

Is what you’re reading a book, and is it titled The Five Families or is it some other title?

I’d be interested to pick it up at the library.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2018 • 7:46:28am

re: #174 Barefoot Grin

Oops.

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Yawn. Stepped on shit again did we Erick?

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dangerman  Feb 28, 2018 • 7:46:49am

re: #176 Anymouse 🌹

Thank you. I will save that for my rebuttal letter.

The problem with that guy’s letter to the editor is it’s a Gish Gallop. The Star-Herald only allows four hundred-word letters, so rebutting all his wingnut talking points and keeping it within four hundred words will be hard.

I’ve done it before with them, so it’s more a writing challenge.

YouTube

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2018 • 7:47:58am

re: #178 ObserverArt

Is what you’re reading a book, and is it titled The Five Families or is it some other title?

I’d be interested to pick it up at the library.

Whole title is: Five Families: The Rise, Decline, and Resurgence of America’s Most Powerful Mafia Empires

It’s quite fascinating. The writer, Raab was a NYT reporter for many years and he interviewed a lot of mobsters, attorneys, etc. I’m just after the Sparks’ Steakhouse hit on Paul Castellano.

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ObserverArt  Feb 28, 2018 • 7:49:18am

re: #174 Barefoot Grin

Oops.

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Better Erick Erickson…

“I literally have no brain so it is real easy for me to put my big foot in my big mouth. Save me Jesus…save me from my own ignorance”

Jesus responds…

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Belafon  Feb 28, 2018 • 7:49:38am

re: #96 Eclectic Cyborg

You just know some company is going to pick up the slack and start selling AR-15s en masse.

I’ve said it before, and I will keep saying it: Don’t do the right’s job for them.
Follow the students lead: Focus on the goal.

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makeitstop  Feb 28, 2018 • 7:50:37am

re: #167 Lupin

Andorra is less than 100 miles from where I live, it’s very nice and it has no extradition treaty with the US. Maybe I should contact Manafort? :-)

If he were to cross his Russian buddies, there would be no safe place on earth for him or his family. As someone suggested, his best bet might be witness protection. And it would be a nice stroke of karma, forcing Mr. ‘Extravagant Lifestyle’ to go live in some cookie-cutter housing development in Arizona somewhere.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 28, 2018 • 7:51:57am

re: #182 ObserverArt

Better Erick Erickson…

“I literally have no brain so it is real easy for me to put my big foot in my big mouth. Save me Jesus…save me from my own ignorance”

Jesus responds…

“Jesus saves, but Moses invests.”

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2018 • 7:52:19am

re: #184 makeitstop

If he were to cross his Russian buddies, there would be no safe place on earth for him or his family. As someone suggested, his best bet might be witness protection. And it would be a nice stroke of karma, forcing Mr. ‘Extravagant Lifestyle’ to go live in some cookie-cutter housing development in Arizona somewhere.

GOODFELLAS ending

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ObserverArt  Feb 28, 2018 • 7:52:31am

re: #177 Lupin

In fact why is Manafort not in Moscow right now? It’s bizarre. If Snowden could make it, surely Manafort could have.

I don’t think he can go anywhere easily. I bet he is under 24 hour surveillance and is followed everywhere.

Who knows, they may want him to try to escape so they can hold that against him too.

One more major screw up like trying to leave and his bond will be revoked and he will sit in jail until this is all cleared up.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 28, 2018 • 7:53:41am

re: #182 ObserverArt

Better Erick Erickson…

“I literally have no brain so it is real easy for me to put my big foot in my big mouth. Save me Jesus…save me from my own ignorance”

Jesus responds…

I guess he isn’t a trial lawyer, where the first principle is to never ask the witness a question you don’t already know the answer to.

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Unshaken Defiance  Feb 28, 2018 • 7:54:33am

re: #100 Anymouse

Personally, I am for titling guns (all guns, not just semi-automatic rifles and pistols) in the same manner as cars, houses, or boats. I also favor competency in the manner of the NRA’s own safety rules, except putting those rules in play by law with penalties for failure to comply.

I agree, and applaud the statement from Dicks. My point is aimed at the vast population of these guns and gun owners though. From interactions at the range, they span a wide range of opinion. From NRA Gundamentalist through the middle to “I can’t ignore the mass shootings and the changes called for”. Caveat California gun range surely ymmv elsewhere.

It’s a conversation I’m having with people I know that have them. As a conversation starter, how about disassembly and deep storage of the frame so nobody can steal it easily or if stolen use it without time and effort. Easy example-make sure the bad guy can’t use it on cops responding to a burglary at your home.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 28, 2018 • 7:54:55am

re: #177 Lupin

In fact why is Manafort not in Moscow right now? It’s bizarre. If Snowden could make it, surely Manafort could have.

I wonder if Dotard thinks the charges against Manafort are a “witch hunt” or whether the only witch hunt is against him, DJT.

I think I can guess the answer to this.

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makeitstop  Feb 28, 2018 • 7:57:20am

re: #177 Lupin

In fact why is Manafort not in Moscow right now? It’s bizarre. If Snowden could make it, surely Manafort could have.

Not fast enough, as a direct result of thinking he was bullet-proof. Remember Omarosa’s vow that everyone would ‘bow to Trump’ and Hick’s belief that ‘none of these emails would ever come out.’

Oops. Miscalculation.

All of these schmoes got it in their heads that since Trump became president, they’d have carte blanche to break whichever laws they thought would make them the most money. They, like Trump, assumed that the rest of the government would bow a knee to them and they could just call off a criminal investigation at will.

They did not take into account that people like Mueller take their oath to the Constitution very seriously.

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lawhawk  Feb 28, 2018 • 7:57:27am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2018 • 7:57:52am

re: #192 lawhawk

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And they call climate change a cult.

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dangerman  Feb 28, 2018 • 7:58:37am

re: #186 HappyWarrior

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Video

YouTube

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Decatur Deb  Feb 28, 2018 • 7:59:21am

re: #192 lawhawk

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They’re a Moonie derivative, not that our local Baptists wouldn’t do the same.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 28, 2018 • 7:59:29am

Whoa. JUST saw the first anti-NRA political ad attacking some local guy for taking $ from them. THIS needs to be done for every republican. Every. Single. One.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 28, 2018 • 7:59:44am

re: #192 lawhawk

In God We Trust But Really In My AR-15 I Trust.

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Lupin  Feb 28, 2018 • 8:00:12am

re: #187 ObserverArt

I don’t think he can go anywhere easily. I bet he is under 24 hour surveillance and is followed everywhere.

Who knows, they may want him to try to escape so they can hold that against him too.

One more major screw up like trying to leave and his bond will be revoked and he will sit in jail until this is all cleared up.

Well, *now*, yes. But shouldn’t he have been informed of the incoming storm (gratuitous dr who reference) in tine for him to gambader away to the banks of the Volga?

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 28, 2018 • 8:01:52am

re: #69 Anymouse 🌹

(Considering every person I voted for lost - I did not have the franchise during Obama’s administration because I was homeless - perhaps I shouldn’t vote. I appear to be a jinx.)

That is why so many minorities are often disenfranchised — they are poor and don’t have an official residence. They stay at various friends’ homes because they have no home of their own. This is certainly what happens in Illinois, where minority voters don’t face the deliberate and malicious voting obstacles imposed by Republican state regimes.

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darthstar  Feb 28, 2018 • 8:04:46am
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Decatur Deb  Feb 28, 2018 • 8:05:43am

Dick’s Sporting Goods CEO on decision to no longer sell assault-style rifles: ‘We don’t want to be a part of this story’

abcnews.go.com

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CongoJack  Feb 28, 2018 • 8:07:03am

re: #200 darthstar

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That got an “ooo” out of me. Nice post!

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MsJ  Feb 28, 2018 • 8:08:31am
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lawhawk  Feb 28, 2018 • 8:09:57am
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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 28, 2018 • 8:10:07am

re: #189 Unshaken Defiance

I agree, and applaud the statement from Dicks. My point is aimed at the vast population of these guns and gun owners though. From interactions at the range, they span a wide range of opinion. From NRA Gundamentalist through the middle to “I can’t ignore the mass shootings and the changes called for”. Caveat California gun range surely ymmv elsewhere.

It’s a conversation I’m having with people I know that have them. As a conversation starter, how about disassembly and deep storage of the frame so nobody can steal it easily or if stolen use it without time and effort. Easy example-make sure the bad guy can’t use it on cops responding to a burglary at your home.

Well, the NRA’s safety rules don’t say how you should secure a gun, just that you should.

I wouldn’t be a big fan of disassembly of my car, which could be used against the police responding to my home by running them over with it.

However, my car is titled. If I don’t report it stolen or lost to the police, I can be held responsible if it is subsequently used to a crime.

The same goes for a gun. The title traces it to the last lawful owner. If that owner doesn’t report it stolen or lost (and a lot of firearm owners don’t do exactly that), they are responsible (or have a huge legal hurdle to get out of). The police haven’t rounded up everyone’s titled cars (though they once were an absolute right which could not be regulated). The same idea for guns is fear-mongering.

Titles make you responsible for the property. It offers you guarantees (a state record you own a property which might be stolen from you and you can use to prove its yours), but also makes you responsible for that property (you’d better report it missing since your name is on it).

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ObserverArt  Feb 28, 2018 • 8:10:43am

re: #200 darthstar

Sean McCabe
@darthstar99
If @Cabelas and @HyattGuns were to follow @DICKS lead, we could reach a point where the only place to get an assault weapon would be rural church raffles.

11:04 AM - Feb 28, 2018

Don’t forget all the gun shops across America Darth.

I don’t know about your part of Cali…but in Ohio there are some pretty big gun shops and shooting centers.

I think for the true-believer NRA gun nut…this is where they go because it is their world.

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makeitstop  Feb 28, 2018 • 8:15:03am

When I went out to get medicine for my sick wife, I passed the local high school. There were four SCPD cruisers parked in front.

Turns out the school got a bomb threat this morning. Sigh.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 28, 2018 • 8:17:23am

re: #200 darthstar

And Republican campaign raffles.

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lawhawk  Feb 28, 2018 • 8:18:00am

re: #207 makeitstop

A bunch of NJ and NYC metro schools got a bunch of threats over the past few days.

A few arrests have been made - charges pending on making terroristic threats.

It’s a cost that the local police now have to incur - not only responding in force to these threats, but calling out the SWAT and K-9 units to sweep schools. That gets passed on to local taxpayers too.

It’s all part of the higher costs because of gun worship.

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darthstar  Feb 28, 2018 • 8:19:51am
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freetoken  Feb 28, 2018 • 8:19:55am

As noted earlier, the EU dropped the first version of their Brexit agreement.

BBC’s first take:

Reality Check: What does the EU Brexit draft reveal?

Bottom line is… breaking up is hard to do.

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lawhawk  Feb 28, 2018 • 8:23:08am

re: #211 freetoken

First take? The UK fucked up. The EU is reminding them that they fucked up and will never stop reminding them of it.

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Unshaken Defiance  Feb 28, 2018 • 8:25:38am

re: #205 Anymouse

I like titling. Seems an excellent idea. Now that the 2nd A has been ruled an individual right, we all can set aside the NRA paranoia that we must secretly be able to bear arms.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 28, 2018 • 8:26:22am

You know that wingnut “artist” Jon McNaughton, who painted Cheeses Handing Down The Constitution and Obama Burning The Constitution and a bunch of crowd scenes begging Obama Please Don’t Burn Our Flag

Now he has a painting of Donald Trump rescuing a trampled flag from a football field where NFL players crushed it with their treasonous knees.

You can view this masterpiece and read the commentary at Wonkette, Anymouse’s favorite site.

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CongoJack  Feb 28, 2018 • 8:26:32am

re: #211 freetoken

re: #212 lawhawk

I wonder when a Motion of No Confidence will be brought to the House of Commons.

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freetoken  Feb 28, 2018 • 8:28:04am
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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 28, 2018 • 8:31:31am

re: #211 freetoken

As noted earlier, the EU dropped the first version of their Brexit agreement.

BBC’s first take:

Reality Check: What does the EU Brexit draft reveal?

Bottom line is… breaking up is hard to do.

When I was stationed in Spain, Gibraltar held a referendum on whether it wanted to be unified with Spain or no. It was resoundingly defeated then.

Now, I can see another referendum posed, because the UK leaving the EU would impose a hard border and all the problems that created when I lived in Spain, along with depression of Gibraltar’s economy.

Gibraltarians may not wish to sacrifice their economy on the racism of the Brexit vote.

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darthstar  Feb 28, 2018 • 8:33:34am

re: #211 freetoken

As noted earlier, the EU dropped the first version of their Brexit agreement.

BBC’s first take:

Reality Check: What does the EU Brexit draft reveal?

Bottom line is… breaking up is hard to do.

Gotta love the punishment clause:

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nines09  Feb 28, 2018 • 8:34:04am

Good day all.
Some may have seen this before. Some may not have.
So a gun is used in the commision of a crime. On TV they come up with that ID, if the serial number is still there, pretty damn fast.
The truth? Much harder.
And the reason?
Could it be…
Quote;
I want to ask about the microfilm—microfilm?—but it’s hard to get a word in. He’s already gone three rounds on the whiteboard, scribbling, erasing, illustrating some of the finer points of gun tracing, of which there are many, in large part due to the limitations imposed upon this place. For example, no computer. The National Tracing Center is not allowed to have centralized computer data.

“That’s the big no-no,” says Charlie.

That’s been a federal law, thanks to the NRA, since 1986: No searchable database of America’s gun owners. So people here have to use paper, sort through enormous stacks of forms and record books that gun stores are required to keep and to eventually turn over to the feds when requested. It’s kind of like a library in the old days—but without the card catalog. They can use pictures of paper, like microfilm (they recently got the go-ahead to convert the microfilm to PDFs), as long as the pictures of paper are not searchable. You have to flip through and read. No searching by gun owner. No searching by name.
End quote;
Insane, eh? By design.

Inside the Federal Bureau Of Way Too Many Guns

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darthstar  Feb 28, 2018 • 8:34:47am
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darthstar  Feb 28, 2018 • 8:35:18am

Manafort’s trial will be just in time for the elections.

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ObserverArt  Feb 28, 2018 • 8:36:18am

re: #216 freetoken

Billy Graham’s grand-daughter blasts evangelicals: ‘You’ve lost the plot’

My take: the plot was lost long, long ago.

Uh oh…one has escaped the compound.

Good for her…and she targets uncle Franklin.

By the way…what a crappy site. There are more ads than content and the ads are scattered through the text.

What was that about the money changers in the temple???

Oh wait, that was about religion.

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Jay C  Feb 28, 2018 • 8:36:58am

re: #215 CongoJack

I wonder when a Motion of No Confidence will be brought to the House of Commons.

Probably not any time soon. Shaky as Mrs. May’s Government may be, keeping it in power - even with its present structural problems - is likely to seem like the lesser evil for a lot of political actors. For the time being, anyway.

And besides, the Brits have royally fucked themselves over the Brexit: even if the political establishment comes to believe it was a mistake, they can neither cancel the Leaving process nor significantly renegotiate it without offending one or another major constituency. And proceeding with it will likely lead them into a major economic disaster with a year or two of finalization. Good job, chaps!

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darthstar  Feb 28, 2018 • 8:38:23am
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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Feb 28, 2018 • 8:39:22am

re: #171 Lupin

There’s no extradition treaty with Puerto Rico! Maybe the RWNJ Russia tools will escape there when their indictments come in.

We can hope.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 28, 2018 • 8:40:40am

re: #223 Jay C

Probably not any time soon. Shaky as Mrs. May’s Government may be, keeping it in power - even with its present structural problems - is likely to seem like the lesser evil for a lot of political actors. For the time being, anyway.

And besides, the Brits have royally fucked themselves over the Brexit: even if the political establishment comes to believe it was a mistake, they can neither cancel the Leaving process nor significantly renegotiate it without offending one or another major constituency. And proceeding with it will likely lead them into a major economic disaster with a year or two of finalization. Good job, chaps!

no could have predicted….

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 28, 2018 • 8:45:00am

re: #225 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

There’s no extradition treaty with Puerto Rico! Maybe the RWNJ Russia tools will escape there when their indictments come in.

We can hope.

What did Puerto Rico do to deserve that?

(There’s no treaty, but it is part of the United States. I presume that was snark.)

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Stanley Sea  Feb 28, 2018 • 8:45:39am
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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 28, 2018 • 8:48:20am

re: #228 Stanley Sea

If I was related to her, I would try to hide the relationship as well.

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danarchy  Feb 28, 2018 • 8:50:07am

re: #206 ObserverArt

Don’t forget all the gun shops across America Darth.

I don’t know about your part of Cali…but in Ohio there are some pretty big gun shops and shooting centers.

I think for the true-believer NRA gun nut…this is where they go because it is their world.

I just did a google search for local gun shops and there are 15 of them within 10 miles of me. And looking at the list there is at least one I pass every day on my way to work that didn’t make the google results, so who knows how many there really are.

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dangerman  Feb 28, 2018 • 8:50:17am

re: #216 freetoken

Billy Graham’s grand-daughter blasts evangelicals: ‘You’ve lost the plot’

My take: the plot was lost long, long ago.

the article behind the link pulls no punches

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sagehen  Feb 28, 2018 • 8:52:34am

re: #219 nines09

Good day all.
Some may have seen this before. Some may not have.
So a gun is used in the commision of a crime. On TV they come up with that ID, if the serial number is still there, pretty damn fast.
The truth? Much harder.
And the reason?
Could it be…

On TV they come up with it fast because it’s probably an L&O show… and NYC’s gun licenses are totally 21st century computerized/searchable.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 28, 2018 • 8:52:39am

re: #227 Anymouse 🌹

What did Puerto Rico do to deserve that?

(There’s no treaty, but it is part of the United States. I presume that was snark.)

We have a treaty with the country of Puerto Rico?

////

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2018 • 8:53:23am

re: #216 freetoken

Billy Graham’s grand-daughter blasts evangelicals: ‘You’ve lost the plot’

My take: the plot was lost long, long ago.

Billy gets too much credit imo.

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sagehen  Feb 28, 2018 • 8:55:45am

re: #228 Stanley Sea

Pamela Geller has social media star daughters who are determined to keep her a secret—at least on social media.

ship. sailing.

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makeitstop  Feb 28, 2018 • 8:56:34am

Crazy good mashup here. Who in the world thought of pairing Marvin Gaye with freakin’ Ratt?

I Heard it Round and Round the Grapevine

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freetoken  Feb 28, 2018 • 8:57:47am

re: #234 HappyWarrior

Billy gets too much credit imo.

He was another preacher who was against modern knowledge like evolution.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Feb 28, 2018 • 8:58:18am

re: #227 Anymouse 🌹

What did Puerto Rico do to deserve that?

(There’s no treaty, but it is part of the United States. I presume that was snark.)

My point is that we should encourage them to flee there, since they will be arrested as soon as they step off the plane or mega-yacht or whatever conveyance RWNJs use these days. Since even Trump knows it’s an island, I will assume that they won’t try to get away on foot or by car.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:00:20am

re: #237 freetoken

He was another preacher who was against modern knowledge like evolution.

Not to mention his comments on the Nixon tapes revealed the hollow nature of his on the outside relatively incisive message. I get that his granddaughter loved him but he was more responsible than not for what Evangelical Christianity is in the 21st century.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:00:43am

re: #212 lawhawk

First take? The UK fucked up. The EU is reminding them that they fucked up and will never stop reminding them of it.

Oh yeah, Brexit was the biggest fuck-up the Brits have made in a long, long time. I’d rank it alongside the Suez Crisis debacle in terms of shooting oneself in the foot.

Brexit presents PM May’s government with basically a no-win scenario. It’s become the Kobayashi Maru of British politics.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:01:54am

Is the NRA sure they want to play the mental health angle?

Zilinsky also claims that the Vegas massacre was an “Illuminati blood sacrifice ritual.”

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freetoken  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:02:39am

re: #239 HappyWarrior

Billy Graham is part of that mythical 1950’s nuclear family ideal life that is part of the religious right mythology about America.

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plansbandc  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:02:55am

re: #118 fern01

When Racist Grandpa called the White House a dump, he showed everything about his complete lack of character. This country put disrespectful, mean, stupid trash in our most treasured home.

I miss everything about the Obamas.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:03:09am

re: #241 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Is the NRA sure they want to play the mental health angle?

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Zilinsky also claims that the Vegas massacre was an “Illuminati blood sacrifice ritual.”

Yeah you really should not talk about mental illness and guns while you employ that sob.

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Teukka  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:03:47am

re: #105 Alephnaught

BTW Here is the weather in Glasgow in the past 20 minutes:

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lawhawk  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:04:32am

re: #243 plansbandc

I got a chance to visit the WH back in March, and it is anything but a dump.

It is a historic building with charms and seeped in all kinds of history, but Trump doesn’t give a crap about any of it unless it’s gold plated bullshit like he surrounds himself with at Trump tower.

He’s a superficial reactionary ignoramus. And it shows.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:04:46am

re: #242 freetoken

Billy Graham is part of that mythical 1950’s nuclear family ideal life that is part of the religious right mythology about America.

Yep well said. Being nominally Catholic, my family never fit into Graham’s America. Billy couldn’t accept that Catholic men like my grandfathers and JFK could separate their Catholicism from their public lives.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:04:52am

re: #216 freetoken

Billy Graham’s grand-daughter blasts evangelicals: ‘You’ve lost the plot’

My take: the plot was lost long, long ago.

Wow. Well said.

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Ace-o-aces  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:05:09am

re: #228 Stanley Sea

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I see Geller’s spawn are just as useless and hateful as she is.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:05:50am

re: #243 plansbandc

When Racist Grandpa called the White House a dump, he showed everything about his complete lack of character. This country put disrespectful, mean, stupid trash in our most treasured home.

I miss everything about the Obamas.

I do too. We’re going to look back and be ashamed how this family was treated.

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MsJ  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:08:40am

re: #234 HappyWarrior

Billy gets too much credit imo.

Way too much credit. And they will not listen to a lowly girl.

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Belafon  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:08:44am

In case, for some reason you were feeling good things about Don Young of Alaska:

“How many millions of people were shot and killed because they were unarmed? Fifty million in Russia,” Young said. “How many Jews were put in the ovens because they were unarmed?”

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:09:06am

re: #140 makeitstop

Phish has played at the Dick’s Sporting Goods Park in Denver for several years, and the even has come to be known as Phish Dicks.

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MsJ  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:10:20am

re: #236 makeitstop

Crazy good mashup here. Who in the world thought of pairing Marvin Gaye with freakin’ Ratt?

[Embedded content]

Video

AWESOME! Love that.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:11:26am

re: #252 Belafon

In case, for some reason you were feeling good things about Don Young of Alaska:

Yeah let’s be armed all the time.// Such a stupid analogy and he manages to insult Gulag and Holocaust victims too.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:11:56am

After Sports Authority closed I started buying my sporting goods exclusively from Dick’s. They are a bit more expensive, but I’m glad I made the right decision.

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MsJ  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:11:57am

re: #240 Dr Lizardo

Oh yeah, Brexit was the biggest fuck-up the Brits have made in a long, long time. I’d rank it alongside the Suez Crisis debacle in terms of shooting oneself in the foot.

Brexit presents PM May’s government with basically a no-win scenario. It’s become the Kobayashi Maru of British politics.

And a very weakening of The West. I pray that they right this wrong. Otherwise England will be nothing for a generation.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:12:15am

re: #251 MsJ

Way too much credit. And they will not listen to a lowly girl.

Nope I doubt Franklin Graham has any introspective ability at all. He’s happy to judge you though.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:12:51am

I remember that Manafort’s daughters’ phones were hacked and messages saying more or less, “our wealth is blood money” and “the bodies are on his hands.” My thought at the time was that they were referencing Maidan. Is that a good interpretation?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:13:25am

re: #257 MsJ

And a very weakening of The West. I pray that they right this wrong. Otherwise England will be nothing for a generation.

I do too. I have four cousins coming of age in the UK. They have dual UK/US citizenship.

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Ace-o-aces  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:14:51am

It’s not even usable as a passport photo.

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lawhawk  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:15:02am

re: #252 Belafon

In case, for some reason you were feeling good things about Don Young of Alaska:

Back to this tired trope? Fuck Young.

How many were in countries that had entire armies that collapsed in the face of even greater armies?

Poland? Check
Russia? Check
France? Check
Yugoslavia? Check
Belgium? Check

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MsJ  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:15:46am

re: #249 Ace-o-aces

I see Geller’s spawn are just as useless and hateful as she is.

To be a bit more specific…

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:16:50am

re: #261 Ace-o-aces

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It’s not even usable as a passport photo.

Yawn. What a whiny kook.

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lawhawk  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:17:26am

re: #261 Ace-o-aces

Arpaio? You mean the self admitted felon who got a pardon for his criminal acts from Trump?

Yeah, he should totally get a check mark.

A check mark indicating that he’s an asshat who has no business running for any political office because he’s criminally bigoted.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:19:01am

I heard an NPR interview with Levi Sanders. Interviewer: “your voice and message are similar to your father, what distinguishes you [as a candidate in New Hampshire]?” Levi: “I wear a size 14 shoe and he wears a size 11-1/2….”

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:19:50am

re: #262 lawhawk

Back to this tired trope? Fuck Young.

How many were in countries that had entire armies that collapsed in the face of even greater armies?

Poland? Check
Russia? Check
France? Check
Yugoslavia? Check
Belgium? Check

They also ignore that the Nazis in fact strengthened gun rights for plenty of others too.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:20:47am

re: #266 Barefoot Grin

I heard an NPR interview with Levi Sanders. Interviewer: “your voice and message are similar to your father, what distinguishes you [as a candidate in New Hampshire]?” Levi: “I wear a size 14 shoe and he wears a size 11-1/2….”

So we should assume Bernie agrees with the stuff tweeted by him and damn that’s a big foot. I wear 13’s.

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dangerman  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:21:07am

re: #252 Belafon

In case, for some reason you were feeling good things about Don Young of Alaska:

the russians werent armed?
wasnt there like an arm-y?

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Woods Witch  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:21:37am
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Dr Lizardo  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:21:57am

re: #257 MsJ

And a very weakening of The West. I pray that they right this wrong. Otherwise England will be nothing for a generation.

I hate to say it, but it’s too late.

The best thing the Brits can do - under the circumstances - is wait a decade after withdrawal and then apply to re-join the EU. They’re certainly not gonna get the same favorable deal they had before, and it will mean a lost decade, but that’s how it is. There is a price to be paid for all things.

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Ace-o-aces  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:22:27am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:23:02am

re: #269 dangerman

the russians werent armed?
wasnt there like an arm-y?

He’s talking about the Gulags and Soviet oppression. It’s still a stupid argument. Maybe Young can look at our allies that have sensible gun laws and aren’t Nazi occupied Europe or the USSR.

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:23:54am

re: #272 Ace-o-aces

He’s not talking to his AG on twitter, he’s talking to his base.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:24:47am

re: #272 Ace-o-aces

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I don’t know Donny, YOU nominated him to be your AG. Ask him yourself rather than Fox and Friends or your damn MAGA cult.

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lawhawk  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:25:00am

re: #266 Barefoot Grin

I heard an NPR interview with Levi Sanders. Interviewer: “your voice and message are similar to your father, what distinguishes you [as a candidate in New Hampshire]?” Levi: “I wear a size 14 shoe and he wears a size 11-1/2….”

Tone deaf.

Just like Bernie.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:25:27am

re: #271 Dr Lizardo

I hate to say it, but it’s too late.

The best thing the Brits can do - under the circumstances - is wait a decade after withdrawal and then apply to re-join the EU. They’re certainly not gonna get the same favorable deal they had before, and it will mean a lost decade, but that’s how it is. There is a price to be paid for all things.

Yep they fucked up as did we by giving into nativism.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:25:57am

...

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:26:31am

re: #276 lawhawk

Tone deaf.

Just like Bernie.

Rather he lacks empathy like Sanders does too.

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jeffreyw  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:27:47am

re: #266 Barefoot Grin

I heard an NPR interview with Levi Sanders. Interviewer: “your voice and message are similar to your father, what distinguishes you [as a candidate in New Hampshire]?” Levi: “I wear a size 14 shoe and he wears a size 11-1/2….”

He’s just saying that he can easily fill his daddy’s shoes.

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lawhawk  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:28:02am

re: #272 Ace-o-aces

Why is Trump taking to Twitter?

Because he doesn’t know how government works, doesn’t know how to communicate through the chain of command and his own staff is hoping tweets will suffice while Sessions does his own thing?

Put simply, the shitshow continues and Trump thinks he’s creating/making policy via twitter and his staffers are entirely about controlling his outbursts. Toddler Trump and WH day care.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:28:57am

Re: Florida republican proposal to arm teachers.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:29:09am

re: #273 HappyWarrior

He’s talking about the Gulags and Soviet oppression. It’s still a stupid argument. Maybe Young can look at our allies that have sensible gun laws and aren’t Nazi occupied Europe or the USSR.

When Britain was threatened with actual invasion in 1940, they did not have to rely on a haphazard “militia” of self-armed and self-trained gun owners. They got millions of old but perfectly serviceable rifles out of storage and bought more from the United States, then gave them to the volunteers in the Home Guard. These were hastily trained and organized, but they at least had some standardized form of each, and they also had uniforms.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:29:12am

re: #280 jeffreyw

He’s just saying that he can easily fill his daddy’s shoes.

Frankly the two seem to me to be the Pauls of the left.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:30:05am

re: #283 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

When Britain was threatened with actual invasion in 1940, they did not have to rely on a haphazard “militia” of self-armed and self-trained gun owners. They got millions of old but perfectly serviceable rifles out of storage and bought more from the United States, then gave them to the volunteers in the Home Guard. These were hastily trained and organized, but they at least had some standardized form of each, and they also had uniforms.

Right, totally different than the Oaths in school campuses parading around with guns.

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Amory Blaine  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:30:36am

re: #270 Woods Witch

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Amory Blaine  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:40:00am

WTF

PBS to Launch Conservative Talk Show Focused on ‘Serious, Civil Dialogue’h

In the latest move by a mainstream news outlet to add conservative voices to their team, PBS has brought-on Washington Post columnist Michael Gerson and right-wing pundit Amy Holmes to host a new William F. Buckley’s Firing Line-esque talk show.

In Principle will began April 13, 2018 and will air every Friday night for eight weeks. Depending on the show’s reception, it may continue after the two month run.

Gerson acted as George W. Bush’s speech writer from 2001-2005 and was responsible for crafting much of the misleading information regarding the Iraq War for the consumption of the American public.

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freetoken  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:43:47am

Trump is doing his best to discredit any indictment that may come down via FISA:

‘DISGRACEFUL!’ Trump rage tweets at Jeff Sessions for not doing enough to investigate Obama

Won’t work, except for his own marks, who are now beyond the ability of being reached by the truth.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:45:10am

re: #288 freetoken

Trump is doing his best to discredit any indictment that may come down via FISA:

‘DISGRACEFUL!’ Trump rage tweets at Jeff Sessions for not doing enough to investigate Obama

Won’t work, except for his own marks, who are now beyond the ability of being reached by the truth.

I think he really wants to put Obama and HRC in jail.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:46:53am

re: #288 freetoken

Trump is doing his best to discredit any indictment that may come down via FISA:

‘DISGRACEFUL!’ Trump rage tweets at Jeff Sessions for not doing enough to investigate Obama

Won’t work, except for his own marks, who are now beyond the ability of being reached by the truth.

And here’s Jerry Jr. piping in

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freetoken  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:47:01am

re: #287 Amory Blaine

This is the problem with “public” broadcasting - when the public are wingnuts, so eventually will be the broadcasters.

While I have over many decades liked various PBS programming, ultimately it is no better than the society that funds it.

Part of this is, too, a typically behind-the-curve response by the too often milquetoast machinery of PBS who are not really going to go after anything other than what has already existed for years. They are not really trendsetters, but the tail end of trends.

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lawhawk  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:48:28am

re: #290 Stanley Sea

Circle of derp.

Trump’s hoping to throw up so much baffling BS that his supporters think that Clinton/Obama belong in prison, so that when the indictments come down against Trump’s cronies and family members, he’s going to point to “but THEM!”

Deflect, deny, and obfuscate.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:49:29am

Breaking: Gun shots in a Georgia high school.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:49:45am

re: #290 Stanley Sea

And here’s Jerry Jr. piping in

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JFC.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:50:19am

re: #293 Dr. Matt

Breaking: Gun shots in a Georgia high school.

Damn damn

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:50:29am

re: #293 Dr. Matt

Breaking: Gun shots in a Georgia high school.

Oh shit.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:51:11am

re: #293 Dr. Matt

Breaking: Gun shots in a Georgia high school.

Teachers re-qualifying?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:52:04am

re: #297 Decatur Deb

Teachers re-qualifying?

It does appear to be a teacher who lost his mind.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:52:38am

re: #298 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

It does appear to be a teacher who lost his mind.

DALTON, GA. — Police in Georgia say officers are responding to reports of shots fired at a high school and a teacher who may have been barricaded in a classroom is in custody.

Police in Dalton tweeted that no children were hurt or were in danger.

Dalton is about 90 miles (145 kilometers) north of Atlanta.

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freetoken  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:52:48am

re: #289 HappyWarrior

I think he really wants to put Obama and HRC in jail.

If there are indictments waiting to be unsealed, Trump has to act to discredit the process beforehand, as once any are unsealed the heat will become unbearable.

I can’t see how Donny Jr. gets away without being charged with something, for meeting with the people he has.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:53:25am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:53:59am
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Interesting Times  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:53:59am

re: #297 Decatur Deb

Teachers re-qualifying?

The Georgia Senate’s timing is impeccable.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:54:17am

re: #299 Eclectic Cyborg

DALTON, GA. — Police in Georgia say officers are responding to reports of shots fired at a high school and a teacher who may have been barricaded in a classroom is in custody.

Police in Dalton tweeted that no children were hurt or were in danger.

Dalton is about 90 miles (145 kilometers) north of Atlanta.

But, by all means, let’s arm teachers….what could possibly go wrong?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:54:19am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:55:13am

re: #302 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Ah Ted Cruz whose father you accused of killing JFK and who because he’s an even bigger wuss than you enables you.

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Interesting Times  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:55:24am

re: #305 Backwoods_Sleuth

durr hurr, FALSE FLAG to make trump’s plan look bad!!!1!!!

/in before Alex Jones

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:56:59am
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A Mom Anon  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:57:34am

Dalton GA used to be the hub of Georgia’s textile industry, you can guess what happened there. Like the rest of the State outside of a few blue spots, it’s fairly rural and very conservative. I’m just glad no one got hurt. Hopefully

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:57:53am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:59:02am

Glad no one was hurt. This unfortunately is going to have dumbing down tho.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:59:49am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2018 • 10:00:45am

also, still a moron:

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A Mom Anon  Feb 28, 2018 • 10:01:47am

re: #310 Backwoods_Sleuth

Same standard should apply to anyone who wants a gun. Also, insurance and licensing for each weapon owned. I also think the fucked up laws that protect gun manufacturers from being sued need to GO.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2018 • 10:04:41am
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dangerman  Feb 28, 2018 • 10:06:45am

re: #299 Eclectic Cyborg

DALTON, GA. — Police in Georgia say officers are responding to reports of shots fired at a high school and a teacher who may have been barricaded in a classroom is in custody.

Police in Dalton tweeted that no children were hurt or were in danger.

Dalton is about 90 miles (145 kilometers) north of Atlanta.

lets just get this in early:

the only way to stop a bad teacher with a gun is a good teacher with a gun

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 28, 2018 • 10:06:48am

re: #20 Anymouse 🌹

So why have any laws at all? We have laws against stealing and yet there’s still stealing. Ditto any other crime.

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A Mom Anon  Feb 28, 2018 • 10:07:06am

re: #315 Backwoods_Sleuth
What a fucking bag of festering dicks.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 28, 2018 • 10:07:50am

re: #315 Backwoods_Sleuth

How much $$$ does the NRA give to Rubio again? He needs to take several seats.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2018 • 10:08:04am

re: #315 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Fuck off Marco. You take millions from the NRA. Dem policy makers have a right to meet with gun control organizations. And I don’t see you accusing Bevin of politicizing it when he blamed video games or Trump when he did movies but heaven forbid someone try to come up with solutions. That would be bad for a fake pious asshole like you.

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Weaselone  Feb 28, 2018 • 10:08:19am

re: #315 Backwoods_Sleuth

The correct response is “It’s about time. Republicans have been politicizing this issue for years. Looks like the Democrats have finally run out of cheeks to turn and children they’re willing to sacrifice.”

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lawhawk  Feb 28, 2018 • 10:08:54am

re: #310 Backwoods_Sleuth

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2018 • 10:08:57am

re: #318 A Mom Anon

What a fucking bag of festering dicks.

That’s Rubio in a nutshell, a bag of dicks supported by other dicks.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 28, 2018 • 10:09:05am

re: #240 Dr Lizardo

Oh yeah, Brexit was the biggest fuck-up the Brits have made in a long, long time. I’d rank it alongside the Suez Crisis debacle in terms of shooting oneself in the foot.

Brexit presents PM May’s government with basically a no-win scenario. It’s become the Kobayashi Maru of British politics.

unlike gallipoli or the suez, they never intended for it to actually succeed…which is why they had no realistic contingency plans in place for when it did

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 28, 2018 • 10:09:55am

re: #310 Backwoods_Sleuth

For $500, which teacher is going to risk his/her life? This is beyond idiotic.

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lawhawk  Feb 28, 2018 • 10:10:21am

re: #316 dangerman

lets just get this in early:

the only way to stop a bad teacher with a gun is a good teacher with a gun

The only way to stop a bad teacher with a gun is bad movie reviews. /

The only way to stop a bad teacher with a gun is a bunch of good students with guns (more students than teachers, so the odds are never in your favor).

The only way to stop all the crossfire is to take Pat Buchanan off the air. /

Ok, I’ll quit…

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 28, 2018 • 10:11:11am

re: #303 Interesting Times

The Georgia Senate’s timing is impeccable.

Delta should leave Georgia immediately. They have no reason to stay.

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A Mom Anon  Feb 28, 2018 • 10:11:27am

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lawhawk  Feb 28, 2018 • 10:12:23am

$500 bonus.

What kind of gun is recommended? Where will it be stored? Teachers have their backs to class quite a bit.

How easy will it be for a student (think high school) to rush the teacher to grab the gun so as to settle a score with fellow classmate or teacher.

Stupendous stupidity doesn’t even begin to cover this nonsense.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Feb 28, 2018 • 10:13:28am

re: #329 lawhawk

$500 bonus.

What kind of gun is recommended? Where will it be stored? Teachers have their backs to class quite a bit.

How easy will it be for a student (think high school) to rush the teacher to grab the gun so as to settle a score with fellow classmate or teacher.

Stupendous stupidity doesn’t even begin to cover this nonsense.

F*CK IT! WE’LL DO IT LIVE!!

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dangerman  Feb 28, 2018 • 10:14:52am

re: #321 Weaselone

The correct response is “It’s about time. Republicans have been politicizing this issue for years. Looks like the Democrats have finally run out of cheeks to turn and children they’re willing to sacrifice.”

republicans, “responsible” gun owners, even the so called NRA have had years to self police this problem. to do anything that would have separated the reckless and careless from the rest of them - you know, the good guys.

they did more than nothing
- they’ve armed, re-armed, over-armed the reckless
- the nra particularly has morphed from a hunter safety and ‘rifle’ club to lobbier of all right wing causes
- they’ve allowed the reckless and careless to become the representative face of who they are

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A Mom Anon  Feb 28, 2018 • 10:15:00am

re: #327 Patricia Kayden

I have a feeling our dumbass Lt. Gov is gonna be sorry about this. Delta is a big employer here and a huge part of the Hartsfield/Jackson Airport presence. They leave, it will piss a LOT of people off

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dangerman  Feb 28, 2018 • 10:15:48am

re: #322 lawhawk

1) if this is what is deemed appropriate training to have guns, why not mandate this for anyone seeking a firearm in FL?

i cant believe they didnt see this coming because this is going to hurt

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 28, 2018 • 10:17:47am

re: #324 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

unlike gallipoli or the suez, they never intended for it to actually succeed…which is why they had no realistic contingency plans in place for when it did

Yep……former PM David Cameron only launched the Brexit referendum because he reckoned it would lose - the UK would vote to stay in the EU - and that would finally shut UKIP up once and for all, as well as the Brexiteers in his own party.

One of the worst political miscalculations I’ve ever seen.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 28, 2018 • 10:22:04am

GOP Nazis demean public education and teachers on a daily basis, but now they want to arm them. Fuck the GOP.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2018 • 10:22:47am

good grief

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2018 • 10:24:17am

heh

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ckkatz  Feb 28, 2018 • 10:27:10am

Sigh…

Fairfax County, Virginia.

Two Fairfax County teens are facing charges after an investigation revealed they were behind a social media threat regarding a possible shooting at Walt Whitman Middle School.

Detectives from our Criminal Intelligence Division (CID) served the teens, a 14 and 15-year-old from the Alexandria area of Fairfax County, with felony petitions yesterday morning. They have each been charged with one count of threats to commit serious bodily harm to persons on school property. Officers first learned of the threat on February 17 after a walk-in report at our Mount Vernon District Station. CID detectives were brought in to investigate. They searched social media accounts and other databases which led them to identify and charge the teens, who are not being named due to their ages. The suspects turned themselves in and were sent home with their parents after a detention hearing. They are under electronic monitoring. Detectives say the boys were trying to impress a girl and did not actually have the means to carry out this threat.

fcpdnews.wordpress.com

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ObserverArt  Feb 28, 2018 • 10:27:13am

re: #287 Amory Blaine

WTF

PBS to Launch Conservative Talk Show Focused on ‘Serious, Civil Dialogue’h

Gerson acted as George W. Bush’s speech writer from 2001-2005 and was responsible for crafting much of the misleading information regarding the Iraq War for the consumption of the American public.

What an endorsement. And how about calling it what it is…they lied us into a war.

PBS. Public Broadcasting (dis)Service.

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Citizen K  Feb 28, 2018 • 10:27:39am

re: #236 makeitstop

If you haven’t heard this one, this is Feel Good Inc. from The Gorillaz mashed up with Grapevine, and it’s definitely one of my faves - DJ HERO - I Heard It Through The Grapevine vs. Feel Good Inc.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2018 • 10:28:44am

re: #338 ckkatz

Sigh…

Fairfax County, Virginia.

fcpdnews.wordpress.com

FC is where I grew up. Sigh.

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allegro  Feb 28, 2018 • 10:29:59am

re: #236 makeitstop

Wow! I LOVE that!

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MsJ  Feb 28, 2018 • 10:30:02am

re: #332 A Mom Anon

I have a feeling our dumbass Lt. Gov is gonna be sorry about this. Delta is a big employer here and a huge part of the Hartsfield/Jackson Airport presence. They leave, it will piss a LOT of people off

Well then the GA legislature can decide to ban Delta from flying into and out of Hartsfield. That’ll show ‘em!

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Sir John Barron  Feb 28, 2018 • 10:30:44am

re: #315 Backwoods_Sleuth

Area politician amazed to discover that politicians do political things, feigns ignorance.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Feb 28, 2018 • 10:30:45am

re: #331 dangerman

republicans, “responsible” gun owners, even the so called NRA have had years to self police this problem. to do anything that would have separated the reckless and careless from the rest of them - you know, the good guys.

they did more than nothing
- they’ve armed, re-armed, over-armed the reckless
- the nra particularly has morphed from a hunter safety and ‘rifle’ club to lobbier of all right wing causes
- they’ve allowed the reckless and careless to become the representative face of who they are

I suspect that they are working with Russian agents whose very purpose is to incite insurrection and terrorism.

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ObserverArt  Feb 28, 2018 • 10:31:39am

re: #299 Eclectic Cyborg

DALTON, GA. — Police in Georgia say officers are responding to reports of shots fired at a high school and a teacher who may have been barricaded in a classroom is in custody.

Police in Dalton tweeted that no children were hurt or were in danger.

Dalton is about 90 miles (145 kilometers) north of Atlanta.

I know it isn’t likely, but would it not be interesting if they were sending a message about teachers in a stressful job having guns?

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Citizen K  Feb 28, 2018 • 10:34:14am

re: #310 Backwoods_Sleuth

Literally the only security in the history of ever is ‘gun’. Gun is the only thing that will keep you safe, and lack of gun may as well be pulling the trigger yourself. Gun is safety. Gun is life. Gun is our almighty fucking god, forever and anon.

I fucking hate everything about this.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 28, 2018 • 10:35:41am

re: #339 ObserverArt

What an endorsement. And how about calling it what it is…they lied us into a war.

PBS. Public Broadcasting (dis)Service.

This is a great move right ahead of March fundraising drive. ////

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dangerman  Feb 28, 2018 • 10:36:13am

re: #335 Dr. Matt

GOP Nazis demean public education and teachers on a daily basis, but now they want to arm them. Fuck the GOP.

is there some bizarre notion they are going to turn non gun owner teachers into owners/carriers? increase their numbers?

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ObserverArt  Feb 28, 2018 • 10:36:23am

re: #312 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I bet there was a time where Trump didn’t even know who Billy Graham was or mocked him.

I don’t think Billy was too big on Studio 54 back in the day. Or the pussy grabbing a few years back.

Sick of Trump’s fake piety. Plus any decent idea of a good god would not have him.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 28, 2018 • 10:36:41am

re: #283 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

When Britain was threatened with actual invasion in 1940, they did not have to rely on a haphazard “militia” of self-armed and self-trained gun owners. They got millions of old but perfectly serviceable rifles out of storage and bought more from the United States, then gave them to the volunteers in the Home Guard. These were hastily trained and organized, but they at least had some standardized form of each, and they also had uniforms.

And in anticipation of massive civilian casualties, founded the National Health Service, which endured throughout the war and proved so popular that even post-war Conservative governments did not think of abolishing it.

Until Teresa May, of course…

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Feb 28, 2018 • 10:38:50am

Officer Trump responds:

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jaunte  Feb 28, 2018 • 10:39:25am
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ckkatz  Feb 28, 2018 • 10:40:59am

re: #341 HappyWarrior

FC is where I grew up. Sigh.

According to the article, since there have been 24 school threats on social media investigated by the county police. This is the only one they could charge.

From August to December 2017, there were 28 incidents with 5 students charged in 8 cases and 2 more getting mental evaluations.

There are so many issues mixed together in this mess. I am glad that we, as a nation, are starting to have some good conversations and actions in addressing them. Gun control is one. Another that is the role of social media in our free society. A third is behavior and ethics.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 28, 2018 • 10:41:22am

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Feb 28, 2018 • 10:42:38am

The NRA and its batshit interpretation of the Second Amendment are doomed. Corporate America’s scramble to throw them under the bus proves that. The only question now is how much trouble, and bloodshed, they can cause before they finally give up.

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MsJ  Feb 28, 2018 • 10:44:48am
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Unshaken Defiance  Feb 28, 2018 • 10:44:56am

LOL@Myself What I saw-

FLAWMAKERS RUSHING TO ARM TEACHERS

What they actually have up

FL LAWMAKERS RUSHING TO ARM TEACHERS

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 28, 2018 • 10:45:30am

re: #356 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

The NRA and its batshit interpretation of the Second Amendment are doomed. Corporate America’s scramble to throw them under the bus proves that. The only question now is how much trouble, and bloodshed, they can cause before they finally give up.

I fear that people are going to feel desperate enough to make some bloody cases for “individual gun rights”

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 28, 2018 • 10:45:51am

Re: The Georgia school incident. I will bet you it was a teacher cleaning his loaded gun.

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ObserverArt  Feb 28, 2018 • 10:46:12am

re: #318 A Mom Anon

What a fucking bag of festering dicks.

Li’l Marco is sure all hurt over the students handing him his head.

He sure is displaying he has no leadership ability.

Go drink some water Marco…with all that crying surely you need some replenishment because it appears it will be going to go on for some time.

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Kragar  Feb 28, 2018 • 10:47:01am

re: #360 GlutenFreeJesus

Re: The Georgia school incident. I will bet you it was a teacher cleaning his loaded gun.

They said he barricaded himself in his room

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jaunte  Feb 28, 2018 • 10:47:10am

re: #357 MsJ

He should know that sporting goods retailers could lose ALL hunting equipment sales and not go bankrupt.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Feb 28, 2018 • 10:47:27am

Ok, I’ll go to my room now.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 28, 2018 • 10:47:34am

Hmmmm

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 28, 2018 • 10:47:49am

re: #362 Kragar

They said he barricaded himself in his room

Probably after the gun went off as an “OH SHIT WHAT HAVE I DONE?!” reaction. Time will tell!

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Stanley Sea  Feb 28, 2018 • 10:48:20am

Oh dog, he’s going to go on a wordfest

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 28, 2018 • 10:50:01am

Ok, time to pack it in and get a drink. Brit Hume said something rational:

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Belafon  Feb 28, 2018 • 10:51:05am

re: #310 Backwoods_Sleuth

And folks thought the idea of arming teachers was a distraction. Nope. It was serious. Anything to avoid addressing the real issue.

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ObserverArt  Feb 28, 2018 • 10:52:56am

re: #327 Patricia Kayden

Delta should leave Georgia immediately. They have no reason to stay.

I don’t understand this stupid thinking politically.

If they force out Delta think of all the jobs that will cost the state. And the tax revenues.

And they would do this for an organization that has nothing to do with the state directly.

I wonder how many actual NRA members there are in the state?

We sure are witnessing a lot of dumb moves in the time of Trump.

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Woods Witch  Feb 28, 2018 • 10:53:28am

re: #368 Barefoot Grin

In case we needed any more evidence that Trump really has no idea how the U.S. federal government actually works.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 28, 2018 • 10:54:41am

This works. But I haven’t been able to find any photos of him running away out the back door when he was forced to trounce through a ditch after some campaign rally he had that had a lot of protesters??

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HappyWarrior  Feb 28, 2018 • 10:55:14am

re: #357 MsJ

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Yeah tehy’re going to go bankrupt because you had a tantrum. But we’re the snowflakes huh.

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A Mom Anon  Feb 28, 2018 • 10:57:12am

re: #370 ObserverArt
If I understand correctly, some places that sell guns offer a one year free membership to the NRA. This happened when my husband bought an actual hunting rifle a few years ago. I just threw their mailings in the trash, especially after opening one and reading the enclosed bullshit. So my theory is that the national numbers are inflated because of that. I’m wondering what the actual benefit of being a member is. Beyond the crappy discounts everyone is weeping over.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2018 • 10:58:23am
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allegro  Feb 28, 2018 • 10:58:55am

re: #360 GlutenFreeJesus

Re: The Georgia school incident. I will bet you it was a teacher cleaning his loaded gun.

Regardless of what it was, the story saying “no children were in danger” is a complete lie. Of course they were in danger by the facts that a) the gun was there at all and b) it was fired. It was dumb luck and very good fortune than none were hurt.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 28, 2018 • 11:00:15am

re: #136 Decatur Deb

Why? Just secure it very well against misuse. It’s a chunk of steel and plastic, not a voodoo doll.

One never knows, do one?

As a practical matter people for the most part aren’t likely to surrender such value for nothing, the government should create an incentive to register them by creating a tax credit for turning registered weapons in and make them non inheritable. A progressive estate tax & letting people bank any excess credits for use against future income would also help motivate compliance.

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Kragar  Feb 28, 2018 • 11:01:26am
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Decatur Deb  Feb 28, 2018 • 11:02:06am

re: #377 goddamnedfrank

As a practical matter people for the most part aren’t likely to surrender such value for nothing, the government should create an incentive to register them by creating a tax credit for turning registered weapons in and make them non inheritable. A progressive estate tax & letting people bank any excess credits for use against future income would also help motivate compliance.

Better loosen the pre-Law admissions standards. We’re gonna need a lot of lawyers.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 28, 2018 • 11:03:27am

re: #379 Decatur Deb

Better loosen the pre-Law admissions standards. We’re gonna need a lot of lawyers.

Alternately, we could just open the gates of Hell. Same result, a lot cheaper.

///

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ObserverArt  Feb 28, 2018 • 11:03:31am

re: #359 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I fear that people are going to feel desperate enough to make some bloody cases for “individual gun rights”

Which will be immensely counter-productive.

Sadly though, that is how cult thinking comes to an end…with deaths and destruction that pushes everyone to change.

NRA - No Reason Allowed.

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Kragar  Feb 28, 2018 • 11:04:57am

re: #381 ObserverArt

Not
Responsible
Adults

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jaunte  Feb 28, 2018 • 11:05:07am

Oh Nothing, Just Panamanian Riot Cops Storming Trump Tower, We’re Sure It’s Fine.
wonkette.com

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dangerman  Feb 28, 2018 • 11:06:44am

re: #374 A Mom Anon

If I understand correctly, some places that sell guns offer a one year free membership to the NRA. This happened when my husband bought an actual hunting rifle a few years ago. I just threw their mailings in the trash, especially after opening one and reading the enclosed bullshit. So my theory is that the national numbers are inflated because of that. I’m wondering what the actual benefit of being a member is. Beyond the crappy discounts everyone is weeping over.

some people join for the articles

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Stanley Sea  Feb 28, 2018 • 11:07:06am

Hot Samurai, cute cat.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2018 • 11:07:43am
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dangerman  Feb 28, 2018 • 11:08:01am

re: #375 Backwoods_Sleuth

U.S. congressional Republicans reject new limits on guns

the students are watching

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2018 • 11:10:04am
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Kragar  Feb 28, 2018 • 11:10:30am
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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 28, 2018 • 11:10:52am

re: #287 Amory Blaine

WTF

PBS to Launch Conservative Talk Show Focused on ‘Serious, Civil Dialogue’h

Kind of makes me glad I can’t get an NPR station here. We have enough conservative radio and Christian hate stations here.

Another reason not to give money to NPR (aside from the fact I can’t get an NPR station unless I am in my car).

I don’t need “conservative issues.” I need real unbiased articles that probe the issues and dig into them.

NPR’s fund drives ofttimes include statements like “If you like this sort of reporting, consider a donation.” I don’t like the sort of reporting proposed, I can’t even receive your nearest station at my house, why should you get a dime from me?

Thanks but no thanks.

That goes back to the E-mail I sent to them a couple weeks ago to Morning Edition when I was listening to them in my car, where the presenter uncritically cited the Center for Immigration Studies as a credible source rather than a hate group.

NPR wrote me back saying they needed to hear from all sides and the claim CIS is a hate group is a political position.

Not a dime to NPR until they get off the magic balance fairy.

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allegro  Feb 28, 2018 • 11:12:20am

Had lunch a couple of days ago with my Fox news watching, Republican friend. On the subject of shopping, I mentioned that while I realized what Amazon was creating it made my life so much easier and I loved the company for that. She agreed and then said that the one thing she hated Bezos for was buying the Washington Post and turning it “far left”, saying that it used to be her go-to for news but now she didn’t trust it. I told her I disagreed about her far-left designation and that it simply reflected that “reality has a well known liberal bias”. (Thank you, Colbert!)

She changed the subject.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2018 • 11:12:38am

I remember this! Drove my mother crazy because we would eat the frozen cream before she could get the bottles indoors.

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gocart mozart  Feb 28, 2018 • 11:14:33am

re: #315 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 28, 2018 • 11:15:21am

So, wait…Republicans who take tens of thousands of dollars in NRA donations aren’t POLITICIZING gun violence, but we are?

What a great deal for the gun lobby if they can organize around elections but the anti gun violence movement can’t.

— Chris Murphy (@ChrisMurphyCT) February 28, 2018

Senator Murphy is wrong. He missed by an order of magnitude.

Tens of MILLIONS of dollars, perhaps HUNDREDS of millions of dollars, not tens of thousands.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 28, 2018 • 11:17:03am

re: #384 dangerman

some people join for the articles

That’s why people subscribe to Playboy as well.

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ObserverArt  Feb 28, 2018 • 11:17:24am

re: #375 Backwoods_Sleuth

First paragraph of the article you linked…

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Republican leaders of the U.S. Congress said on Tuesday they would not raise the minimum age for gun buyers, in a sign that one of President Donald Trump’s proposals likely will not get far on Capitol Hill after a deadly Florida school shooting.

I hereby propose that no one ever associate the word “leaders” to any member of The Republican Party.

They are nothing but blind, paid-for followers of the NRA who leads them around by their nose rings.

At a time this country needs actual leadership they make a run for the NRA loot. And that makes no sense because many of them do not get that much money.

Republican are held hostage by Wayne and Gang. It makes no damn sense. I sure would like to know what they really have on the G.O.P. pols. Maybe Russia hacked the GOP servers and has a ton of dirt on each and everyone of them.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 28, 2018 • 11:32:44am

the Collings Foundation aircraft are back in town. The B24 went over at 1000’ while we were eating on the patio.

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Unshaken Defiance  Feb 28, 2018 • 12:12:16pm

re: #387 dangerman

the students are watching

Everybody is watching.


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‘Westworld’ Accused in Court of Ripping Off ‘Fallout Shelter’ BALTIMORE (CN) — Coinciding with the official release of the “Westworld” mobile game, Warner Bros. was hit with a federal complaint Thursday that says the game is a wholesale imitation, down to its bugs, of the mega-hit “Fallout Shelter.” ...
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Deaf Kaki Chumpy - African Fire Live @ Casa BertallotIscriviti al canale qui: goo.gl Facebook: facebook.comTwitter: @bertallotGoogle+ goo.glAscoltaci su: bertallot.com
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King Crimson - 21st Century Schizoid Man 21st Century Schizoid Man by KIng Crimson. Filmed in Japan December 2015. An album and DVD from the 2015 tour, Radical Action to Unseat the Hold of Monkey Mind, can be purchased from dgmlive.com as well as audio downloads ...
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How Donald Trump Killed the Immigration Bill With 1 Tweet (CNN)For weeks, House Republican leaders have been working behind closed doors to thread the needle on an immigration bill that could secure the support of the bulk on their conference. On Friday morning, President Donald Trump ended all that ...
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“Did You Even READ the Piece?” This Startup Wants to Make That Question Obsolete for Commentors Let’s be honest: Are you going to read this or skim this? In a land of feeds, tidbits, and bullet points, readers don’t often get to the end of a piece — let alone absorb each sentence along the ...
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Young the Giant: Simplify (Official Audio) Young The Giant's official audio for their new single 'Simplify' - available now. Download / Stream 'Simplify': lnk.to Catch Young The Giant on Tour this fall with very special guest Lights!More info at: youngthegiant.com Site: youngthegiant.comFacebook: facebook.comTwitter: @youngthegiantInstagram: instagram.comYouTube: ...
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Traveller - ‘Nobody Makes It Out’ (Live at WFUV)wfuv.org • Follow @wfuv: ow.ly Traveller performs "Nobody Makes It Out" live in Studio A. Recorded 5.9.18. Host: Alisa AliAudio: Caroline InzucchiCameras: Kristal Ho, Brian Gallagher & Kaylee KurkierewiczEditors: Kaylee Kurkierewicz & Brian Gallagher
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Fantastic Negrito - the Duffler (Official Video) ‘The Duffler’ is taken from Fantastic Negrito's brand new album 'Please Don't Be Dead' out now. Order your copy here: fn.lnk.to Director: Freddy Macdonald Producer: Fred MacdonaldCinematographer: Sebastian KlingerEditor: Freddy MacdonaldProduction Company: Macdonald Entertainment Partners Check here for Fantastic ...
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Facebook’s Screening for Political Ads Nabs News Sites… One ad couldn’t have been more obviously political. Targeted to people aged 18 and older, it urged them to “vote YES” on June 5 on a ballot proposition to issue bonds for schools in a district near San Francisco. ...
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Stanford Prison Experiment: Why Famous Psychology Studies Are Now Being Torn Apart Sometimes pseudoscience makes it through to the text books, most often in the soft and social sciences. A new exposé based on previously unpublished recordings of Philip Zimbardo, the Stanford psychologist who ran the study, and interviews with his ...
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