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1
GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 28, 2018 • 8:52:50pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 28, 2018 • 8:59:03pm

Got CL’d on the last thread.

Moar stupid gun memes part eleventy:

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:08:37pm

The stock market should be in for an exciting ride tomorrow

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austin_blue  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:11:05pm

CL’d from downstairs:

Was today better than yesterday in the Drumpf collapse?

Yes! Hope Hicks, true believer, got jettisoned after she admitted that she told little white lies. Which meant she lied like a Persian rug in a public forum. Adios, third daughter!

Oh, and she is also the best piece of ass you will ever have, per El Presidente.

I’m off to bed knowing that this Administration is just fucking evil. No other way to put it. And that the real power in this Republic, the Judiciary, through Mueller, is going to soon hammer him like a nail in a board,

Night all.

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:11:29pm

re: #3 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

WHEEEEEEEEEEE!!!! Fucking moron.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:12:34pm

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wheat-dogg  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:20:24pm

re: #2 Eclectic Cyborg

Got CL’d on the last thread.

Moar stupid gun memes part eleventy:

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Historically inaccurate, too. From Snopes:

The claim that China “established gun control in 1935” appears to have been plucked from mid-air. According to Lethal Laws, a 1912 law made it illegal to possess or import rifles, cannons, or explosives without a permit. The Security Administration Punishment Act of 1957 took the additional step of making it illegal to make, purchase, or possess firearms or ammunition without the government’s permission — though by that time at least a million “class enemies” had already died in the name of Mao Zedong’s Cultural Revolution.

Snopes has that last part wrong, as the Cultural Revolution did not begin until 1966.

The Japanese occupied China from 1937 to 1945. Many Chinese had weapons of their own at that time, as well as guns provided from outside suppliers, like the USA.

As for the political dissidents being rounded up between 1948 and ‘52, China was in the middle of a civil war until 1949, when the PRC was founded. The new government then went after the landlords and killed or imprisoned many of them. A landlord with a musket or a single-action rifle or a handgun would not be able to fight off a group of soldiers tasked with arresting him.

Not sure about the origins of the photo, though.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:21:36pm

Trump doesn’t appear to know anything about economics — or anything else either. However, it’s not unusual for Presidents to have limited knowledge in many areas that require strong response. They compensate by having advisers who can lead them in the right direction — or perhaps a reasonable direction. The question is: who is recommending these tariffs. Certainly Wilbur Ross, Steve Mnuchin, and Gary Cohn would not share these views. So it’s Peter Navarro? Who is he?

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MsJ  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:27:55pm

re: #8 Hecuba’s daughter

Certainly Wilbur Ross, Steve Mnuchin, and Gary Cohn would not share these views. So it’s Peter Navarro? Who is he?

Navarro, from Wikipedia:

Navarro is known as a staunch critic of China and strong proponent of reducing U.S. trade deficits. He has accused Germany and China of currency manipulation. He has called for increasing the size of the American manufacturing sector, setting high tariffs, and repatriating global supply chains. He is also a strong opponent of the Trans-Pacific Partnership. His views on trade are widely considered fringe and misguided by other economists.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:30:21pm

re: #2 Eclectic Cyborg

Well, the photo looked a bit older than the 1940s, and I was right. It was taken during the Revolution of 1911-12, according to this site.

pic.tiexue.net

But it is a Getty Image, and Getty says it was the execution of a prisoner in 1925.

Embed from Getty Images

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:31:18pm

re: #3 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Hmmmm, wonder if any of Trump’s Stooges—Moe, Larry, Curly, Shemp, Joe or Curly Joe tried to talk to President B-Hole about the Smoot-Hawley Tariff and how it’s affect only made the 1929 stock crash even worse?

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retired cynic  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:32:05pm

re: #11 Joe Bacon 🌹

Hmmmm, wonder if any of Trump’s Stooges—Moe, Larry, Curly, Shemp, Joe or Curly Joe tried to talk to President B-Hole about the Smoot-Hawley Tariff and how it’s affect only made the 1929 stock crash even worse?

naw

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:35:05pm

Tomorrow, I reach another milestone—received my reduced fare Senior Transit pass on the Los Angeles Metro system.

Card goes right next to my AARP one in my wallet…

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wheat-dogg  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:36:42pm

re: #11 Joe Bacon 🌹

Hmmmm, wonder if any of Trump’s Stooges—Moe, Larry, Curly, Shemp, Joe or Curly Joe tried to talk to President B-Hole about the Smoot-Hawley Tariff and how it’s affect only made the 1929 stock crash even worse?

They’re still working on the pop-up story book explanation.

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Scout  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:40:14pm

One important thing to remember about Dick’s Sporting Goods:

From The New York Times —

This is not the first time that Dick’s has made changes in response to a school massacre. In 2012, after a gunman killed 26 people at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., Dick’s removed assault-style rifles from its main stores. But a few months later, the company began carrying the firearms at its outdoor and hunting retail chain, Field & Stream.

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plansbandc  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:40:37pm

re: #9 MsJ

Fringe and misguided? That’s the epitome of a Trump hire.

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allegro  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:42:17pm

re: #13 Joe Bacon 🌹

Tomorrow, I reach another milestone—received my reduced fare Senior Transit pass on the Los Angeles Metro system.

Card goes right next to my AARP one in my wallet…

Now that ya mention it, I hit one as well - as of tomorrow I’m covered by Medicare and my new medigap policy. Turning 65 (on the 13th) feels kinda like reaching 21, coming of age. Old age this time but still.

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MsJ  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:43:44pm

re: #16 plansbandc

Fringe and misguided? That’s the epitome of a Trump hire.

Always.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:44:10pm

re: #9 MsJ

Navarro, from Wikipedia:
…..He has called for increasing the size of the American manufacturing sector, setting high tariffs, and repatriating global supply chains. He is also a strong opponent of the Trans-Pacific Partnership. His views on trade are widely considered fringe and misguided by other economists.

According to Thornton McEnery, a reporter for Crains who also writes for some site called Dealbreaker..
So it feels like we’re about to get a lot more Peter Navarro in our lives. Which is great if you like to be entertained by economists who appear mentally unstable, but bad news if you’re a fan of cogent trade policy.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:50:31pm

re: #15 Scout

One important thing to remember about Dick’s Sporting Goods:

From The New York Times —

Something feels different this time… with the 21 and older thing.

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Scout  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:52:18pm

re: #20 GlutenFreeJesus

Something feels different this time… with the 21 and older thing.

I truly hope so. But I’m also saying these corporate cats are wily.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 28, 2018 • 9:58:45pm
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goddamnedfrank  Feb 28, 2018 • 10:09:32pm

Part of the problem is the Gish Gallop of utterly insane bullshit behavior that allows no time for perspective. The other part is the constant drive by the media to legitimize Trump and praise him for normal things like sometimes being able to read a speech off a teleprompter and not literally biting people’s faces.

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Targetpractice  Feb 28, 2018 • 10:19:26pm

re: #23 goddamnedfrank

Part of the problem is the Gish Gallop of utterly insane bullshit behavior that allows no time for perspective. The other part is the constant drive by the media to normalize Trump and praise him for normal things like sometimes being able to read a speech off a teleprompter and not literally biting people’s faces.

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You should know by now that “IOKIYAR” is the media’s mantra. It’s like how the nation was at risk of crumbling into bankruptcy when the ACA was passed, but Trump gives $1.5 trillion away to his buddies on Wall St. and the media talks up stories about “bonuses” and “raises” for a small fraction of workers.

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Targetpractice  Feb 28, 2018 • 10:32:02pm

I’m really curious to see where Hope ends up after this. Considering this report, I’m not sure anybody is going to want to touch her:

Hope admits under oath that she lies for her boss and he responds by berating her for being “stupid,” causing her to quit the job she only got a few months ago and can show no real hand in actually doing. And that’s just assuming she doesn’t end up facing federal charges for perjury.

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Kilroy was here  Feb 28, 2018 • 11:02:15pm

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Feb 28, 2018 • 11:05:12pm

Facebook Post

Looks like ARs only. AK-47s would obviously be excluded for their heathen communist origins, but what about Mini-14s, FALs, G-93s etc. ?

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Kragar  Feb 28, 2018 • 11:23:18pm
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Kragar  Feb 28, 2018 • 11:35:27pm

re: #27 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

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Targetpractice  Feb 28, 2018 • 11:42:13pm

I look at these nutters worshiping at the altar of blood and carnage and all I see is the cult from Beneath the Planet of the Apes worshiping an unexploded nuclear bomb.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 28, 2018 • 11:51:47pm

Happy Nebraska Admission Day!

(Today is the 151st anniversary of Nebraska’s accession to the Union.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Feb 28, 2018 • 11:56:49pm

re: #30 Targetpractice

I look at these nutters worshiping at the altar of blood and carnage and all I see is the cult from Beneath the Planet of the Apes worshiping an unexploded nuclear bomb.

Glory Be To The Bomb

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:01:45am

re: #28 Kragar

Completely at home in Fallout.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:09:48am

re: #30 Targetpractice

I look at these nutters worshiping at the altar of blood and carnage and all I see is the cult from Beneath the Planet of the Apes worshiping an unexploded nuclear bomb.

I see the prequel to Zardoz.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:41:12am

I subscribe to an expat Thailand blog and this popped up in my email notifications today.

Belarusian escort detained in Pattaya claims dirt in Trump-Russia case

thaivisa.com

Link is to a Thai English language newspaper, but it attributes the story to the Washington Post.

More details from the Thai press.

khaosodenglish.com

Briefly, a woman being held in a Thai prison and her associates claim they have information relating to Russian meddling with the US election and to Trump’s Russian connections.

Hard to say if they’re on the level, or merely trying to find a “Get out of jail free” card, but the woman claims to be a former mistress of Oleg Deripaska, the oligarch who hired Manafort.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:51:23am

re: #35 wheat-dogg

I subscribe to an expat Thailand blog and this popped up in my email notifications today.

Belarusian escort detained in Pattaya claims dirt in Trump-Russia case

thaivisa.com

Link is to a Thai English language newspaper, but it attributes the story to the Washington Post.

Seems a bit dubious to me after reading it.

She claims to have “dirt” on Donald Trump, then takes to Instagram from jail (?) to plead for US Intelligence services to get her out of a Thai jail so she can give them information?

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wheat-dogg  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:55:37am

re: #36 Anymouse 🌹

Seems a bit dubious to me after reading it.

She claims to have “dirt” on Donald Trump, then takes to Instagram from jail (?) to plead for US Intelligence services to get her out of a Thai jail so she can give them information?

Yeah, using Instagram while in the slammer sounds fishy. But everything around Trump sounds fishy, so I’m reserving judgment until more details surface.

Reload my #35, BTW. I added another link.

The Chi Tribune has also run a story on it.

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Scout  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:55:41am
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Targetpractice  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:56:41am

re: #38 Scout

Well, this is a huge relief.

No Tokyo eateries serve up human meat: Japanese Embassy in U.S.

So what you’re saying is they’re not humanitarians?

//

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wheat-dogg  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:56:41am

re: #38 Scout

Well, this is a huge relief.

No Tokyo eateries serve up human meat: Japanese Embassy in U.S.

A similar rumor surfaced in China, as well.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:56:44am

Trump Nobel Peace Prize Nomination Probed amidst Fakery Concerns (goes to the BBC)

A nomination made for US President Donald Trump to receive the Nobel Peace Prize was potentially fraudulent, according to the awarding committee.

The Norwegian committee has filed a report with police over its concerns.

Mr Trump was reportedly nominated for his “ideology of peace by force” by an anonymous American.

The director of the Nobel Institute said there were concerns that Mr Trump’s nomination may have been falsified.

“I can say that we have good reason to believe that [the nomination of Mr Trump] is a fake,” Nobel Institute Director Olav Njølstad told Norwegian broadcaster NRK.

“The same ‘fake’ nomination probably took place last year too,” Mr Njølstad said.

(more)

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Targetpractice  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:01:01am

re: #41 Anymouse 🌹

Trump Nobel Peace Prize Nomination Probed amidst Fakery Concerns (goes to the BBC)

(more)

“Peace by force”? Wingnuts used to call that “tyranny,” you know, back when a Democrat was in the White House.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:06:25am

re: #37 wheat-dogg

Yeah, using Instagram while in the slammer sounds fishy. But everything around Trump sounds fishy, so I’m reserving judgment until more details surface.

Reload my #35, BTW. I added another link.

The Chi Tribune has also run a story on it.

Took some searching but I found the article:

Jailed Instagram model wants to trade Trump secrets for freedom (goes to the Chicago Tribune), more at the link:

A Belarusian woman jailed in Thailand for offering sex lessons without a work permit says she has a story to tell involving the Kremlin, Russian billionaires and even the president of the United States.

Anastasia Vashukevich, whose extraordinary claims and racy selfies have propelled her to internet fame in recent weeks, told The Associated Press from a police van Wednesday that she fears for her life, and wants to exchange information on alleged Russian ties to Donald Trump’s campaign for her own personal safety. But she refused for now to offer any such evidence, and it’s not clear if she has any.

Vashukevich’s story offers a glimpse into the shady world of Russian oligarchs. Trump’s onetime campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, also had ties to that world through his consulting work for one of those oligarchs. Manafort has been indicted on money-laundering charges related to his overseas consulting work by special counsel Robert Mueller. But Mueller has offered no evidence that Manafort linked his Russian contacts to Trump’s campaign or helped Russia meddle in the 2016 U.S. election.

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Kragar  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:06:46am

re: #41 Anymouse 🌹

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:12:43am

re: #38 Scout

Well, this is a huge relief.

No Tokyo eateries serve up human meat: Japanese Embassy in U.S.

Yet another sad story of innovative entrepreneurs victimized by government interference in business. Why can’t they just let the market decide?//

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wheat-dogg  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:23:41am

re: #45 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Yet another sad story of innovative entrepreneurs victimized by government interference in business. Why can’t they just let the market decide?//

“Hey, I haven’t seen that new waiter lately. Anybody know where he went? Also, when did we add this new menu item in the entree section?”

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Kragar  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:41:51am

re: #45 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

The IT Crowd - Series 2 - Episode 3: I want to cook with you

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:00:53am

KFC faces gravy shortage in United Kingdom after rebounding from chicken panicT

his is finger-licking bad.

KFC faces a gravy shortage in the United Kingdom, just a week after the fast food chain temporarily closed its doors there.

Parent company Yum! Brands said the dwindling flow of gravy was part of ongoing issues with new supplier DHL, which last week led to the chicken catastrophe.

“Due to the ongoing distribution challenges DHL is experiencing, some restaurants are continuing to serve a reduced menu,” a Yum! spokesman told Reuters. “We’re working as hard as we can to get this sorted out. We know that our gravy is a big favorite!”

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:03:16am

re: #48 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

KFC faces gravy shortage in United Kingdom after rebounding from chicken panicT

Chicken shortage at KFC? Could this be the real reason Donald Trump doesn’t want to travel to the United Kingdom? Inquiring minds want to know!

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wheat-dogg  Mar 1, 2018 • 3:54:02am

Donnie has some more problems to deal with. His Russian boss.

Putin claims Russia has nuclear arsenal capable of avoiding missile defenses

MOSCOW — Russia has developed nuclear weapons that can avoid any missile defense systems, President Vladimir Putin claimed in his annual address to lawmakers on Thursday.

He also warned that Moscow would consider any nuclear attack, of any size, on it or its allies an attack on Russia that would lead to an immediate response — adopting Cold War-style overtones that appeared to ramp up Russia’s posturing against the West and its allies.

Putin did not specify any of Moscow’s allies or cite any immediate threats. But his remarks could be seen as a message to Washington over deepening tensions with Moscow.

The nearly two-hour speech to top Russian officials and members of parliament began with a series of promises to improve domestic living standards and ended with stark warnings to the United States.

Russia, Putin asserted, had responded to U.S. development of missile defense shields by developing weapons impervious to them.

washingtonpost.com

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dangerman  Mar 1, 2018 • 4:15:33am

a couple of days ago i said it seemed ben carson hadnt done anything egregious and was mostly staying out of the limelight - relatively speaking

almost the next day Today in Draining the Swamp: Ben Carson

i can’t explain it

on a totally unrelated matter, i think jeff sessions is doing a great job

and sonny perdue is a saint

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Decatur Deb  Mar 1, 2018 • 4:18:13am

re: #44 Kragar

Someone forged a nomination of President Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize. Twice.

Littlest of white lies.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 1, 2018 • 4:19:47am

re: #51 dangerman

a couple of days ago i said it seemed ben carson hadnt done anything egregious and was mostly staying out of the limelight - relatively speaking

almost the next day Today in Draining the Swamp: Ben Carson

i can’t explain it

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on a totally unrelated matter, i think jeff sessions is doing a great job

and sonny perdue is a saint

Check your link.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 1, 2018 • 4:21:15am

re: #37 wheat-dogg

Yeah, using Instagram while in the slammer sounds fishy. But everything around Trump sounds fishy, so I’m reserving judgment until more details surface.

Reload my #35, BTW. I added another link.

The Chi Tribune has also run a story on it.

I don’t know what to think. Seems dodgy at best. Just as likely to be a trick to embarrass US media and allow Trump and Russians to claim “fake news” again.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 1, 2018 • 4:22:36am

re: #38 Scout

Well, this is a huge relief.

No Tokyo eateries serve up human meat: Japanese Embassy in U.S.

But there are spider eggs in Bubble Yum (you have to be of a certain age to get that, I think).

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The Major  Mar 1, 2018 • 4:22:41am

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wheat-dogg  Mar 1, 2018 • 4:24:36am

It’s awake.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 1, 2018 • 4:25:04am

re: #38 Scout

Well, this is a huge relief.

No Tokyo eateries serve up human meat: Japanese Embassy in U.S.

Archbishop Tarcisius Isao Kikuchi demurred, saying: “Well, technically…”

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dangerman  Mar 1, 2018 • 4:34:06am

re: #39 Targetpractice

So what you’re saying is they’re not humanitarians?

//

+1

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 1, 2018 • 4:34:39am

re: #54 Barefoot Grin

I don’t know what to think. Seems dodgy at best. Just as likely to be a trick to embarrass US media and allow Trump and Russians to claim “fake news” again.

See also the link to my #37, which links directly to the article at the Chicago Tribune. The Tribune cites the Associated Press for their report on this.

It seems kind of flaky that a woman could be interviewed while in a police paddy wagon, or stream on Instagram from jail.

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dangerman  Mar 1, 2018 • 4:38:30am

re: #53 wheat-dogg

Check your link.

seems to work

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 1, 2018 • 4:39:15am

re: #61 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

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LOL, +4

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The Major  Mar 1, 2018 • 4:41:39am

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wheat-dogg  Mar 1, 2018 • 4:45:32am

re: #61 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Stolen for my classes, which begin Monday.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 1, 2018 • 4:53:53am

re: #57 wheat-dogg

It’s awake.

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Yes, let him slap that 25% tariff on imported steel and aluminum.

Watch the ensuing trade war.

Oh, and to all those Western PA Trumpettes who think the steel mills will reopen(including my brainwashed family)…too bad, they won’t…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 1, 2018 • 4:56:59am

re: #27 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

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Looks like ARs only. AK-47s would obviously be excluded for their heathen communist origins, but what about Mini-14s, FALs, G-93s etc. ?

Hey, did anyone see Katrina Pierson and her bullet necklace at the Moonie clambake?

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dangerman  Mar 1, 2018 • 5:03:27am

re: #66 Joe Bacon 🌹

Yes, let him slap that 25% tariff on imported steel and aluminum.

Watch the ensuing trade war.

Oh, and to all those Western PA Trumpettes who think the steel mills will reopen(including my brainwashed family)…too bad, they won’t…

sure they will
the same week as the announcement
no ramp up needed

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freetoken  Mar 1, 2018 • 5:05:49am

Tony Blair (yeah, I know):

Theresa May’s Brexit plan is ‘literally not going to happen’ says former prime minister Tony Blair

Furthermore:

Blow for Theresa May as EU parliament rejects climbdown offer on post-Brexit migrants

The Brexiteers are very much like Trumpers (which is why some Brexit champions also were Trump champions) - they want a pretend world where there is no cost for things like xenophobia.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 1, 2018 • 5:14:36am

The weapons in the Unification Church ceremony are not all AR’s, but will favor a family-run knockoff marque. Moon Kook-jin, fourth son of Rev Moon, is a “firearms designer”/CEO. He owns Kahr Arms in the US (mostly handguns). The family owns or owned production facilities in S. Korea.

If you look into the Unification Church deeply enough you will start to doubt your own resistance to conspiracy theories.
en.wikipedia.org
en.wikipedia.org
en.wikipedia.org

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MsJ  Mar 1, 2018 • 5:22:08am

re: #69 freetoken

Tony Blair (yeah, I know):

Theresa May’s Brexit plan is ‘literally not going to happen’ says former prime minister Tony Blair

Furthermore:

Blow for Theresa May as EU parliament rejects climbdown offer on post-Brexit migrants

The Brexiteers are very much like Trumpers (which is why some Brexit champions also were Trump champions) - they want a pretend world where there is no cost for things like xenophobia.

Tony Blair is the only person in England who’s making sense. No one in the UK government is saying how bad this is going to be for them. There’s not a single person screaming that they are going to kill themselves economically for a generation. This is economic suicide.

May was a moron for triggering Article 20. Cameron will go down in history as the man who ended England as we know it.

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jeffreyw  Mar 1, 2018 • 5:26:06am

Imgur


Good morning!

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freetoken  Mar 1, 2018 • 5:29:34am

re: #71 MsJ

Tony Blair is the only person in England who’s making sense.

Former minister John Major came out saying there should be another vote, and Brexiteers are labeling him a traitor.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 1, 2018 • 5:32:00am

And you thought you were having a bad day. Poor Proxima b.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 1, 2018 • 5:34:14am

Fire and now ice.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 1, 2018 • 5:35:13am

re: #73 freetoken

Former minister John Major came out saying there should be another vote, and Brexiteers are labeling him a traitor.

Well, there is a case to be made (and the UK Parliament made it when they were petitioned for a re-vote) that a democracy doesn’t work by continuing to hold election after election until you get the result you like.

My understanding of the Brexit vote was that it was more of an opinion poll. The Conservative Party, after getting the results, could have ignored the results or explained “We can’t leave the EU for reasons a, b, and c.”

That however would have taken the courage to face their constituents to explain why it’s a bad idea. As we’ve seen in the USA with conservatives, when faced with admitting a bad idea was a poor position to take, they avoid their constituents instead.

So rather than admit holding the referendum was wrong, or admitting the results would be bad, they’d rather destroy their economy to maintain their grip on power.

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freetoken  Mar 1, 2018 • 5:36:15am

re: #76 Anymouse 🌹

Well, there is a case to be made (and the UK Parliament made it when they were petitioned for a re-vote) that a democracy doesn’t work by continuing to hold election after election until you get the result you like.

Well, we hold elections every two years. That’s pretty often.

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Bubblehead II  Mar 1, 2018 • 5:36:59am

re: #72 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

You got rid of the smoke stack I see.

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freetoken  Mar 1, 2018 • 5:37:03am

The time between Brexit option-election would be longer than the time between our elections.

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MsJ  Mar 1, 2018 • 5:37:06am

The kids ARE alright.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 1, 2018 • 5:40:10am

re: #78 Bubblehead II

You got rid of the smoke stack I see.

He’s just being realistic. True fact: The stove and stack used in papal election are installed and removed as needed for every consistory.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 1, 2018 • 5:41:07am

re: #74 wheat-dogg

And you thought you were having a bad day. Poor Proxima b.

As someone commented there: I hope they were wearing 1Million SPF sunscreen.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 1, 2018 • 5:43:06am

re: #77 freetoken

Well, we hold elections every two years. That’s pretty often.

Won’t Brexit be completed by the time of the next election? My understanding is to re-enter the EU, the UK would not likely get the same favourable terms it had the last time.

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freetoken  Mar 1, 2018 • 5:46:10am

re: #83 Anymouse 🌹

The original referendum was done in June 2016.

If the UK decided to do what Major recommends, unlikely but not impossible, by the time they do such a thing it will probably be after June 2018, thus more than 2 years between referenda.

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ObserverArt  Mar 1, 2018 • 5:47:19am

re: #25 Targetpractice

I’m really curious to see where Hope ends up after this. Considering this report, I’m not sure anybody is going to want to touch her:

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Hope admits under oath that she lies for her boss and he responds by berating her for being “stupid,” causing her to quit the job she only got a few months ago and can show no real hand in actually doing. And that’s just assuming she doesn’t end up facing federal charges for perjury.

Morning!

Reading through the thread and saw this.

I think it is an admittance that Trump would expect his Trumpers to lie. It also say’s Trump would lie himself.

I hope Mueller gets to interview The Big Orange Don because it is a pretty sure bet Trump would lie, lie and lie some more. Hopefully enough to be his undoing.

Also…what’s up with Putin rattling the cage with his new military toys? Is this some kind of a setup so he can save Donny maybe by them coming to some kind of an agreement to eliminate these weapons.

Or, just another Putin for President campaign ploy?

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wheat-dogg  Mar 1, 2018 • 5:48:22am

re: #76 Anymouse 🌹

Well, there is a case to be made (and the UK Parliament made it when they were petitioned for a re-vote) that a democracy doesn’t work by continuing to hold election after election until you get the result you like.

My understanding of the Brexit vote was that it was more of an opinion poll. The Conservative Party, after getting the results, could have ignored the results or explained “We can’t leave the EU for reasons a, b, and c.”

That however would have taken the courage to face their constituents to explain why it’s a bad idea. As we’ve seen in the USA with conservatives, when faced with admitting a bad idea was a poor position to take, they avoid their constituents instead.

So rather than admit holding the referendum was wrong, or admitting the results would be bad, they’d rather destroy their economy to maintain their grip on power.

The referendum was non-binding, and the government could have chosen to ignore it, or kick the ball down the street until most everyone forgot about it. Instead, Cameron took it as a mandate, then conveniently resigned once he got the process rolling.

PM May has not done much better. She also could have delayed the process, or reversed it before it was too late, but the Tories decided, “Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!”

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dangerman  Mar 1, 2018 • 5:50:08am

re: #82 Anymouse 🌹

As someone commented there: I hope they were wearing 1Million SPF sunscreen.

Does sunscreen work better before or after applying moisturizer?
Discuss

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Lupin  Mar 1, 2018 • 5:50:42am

re: #76 Anymouse 🌹

Well, there is a case to be made (and the UK Parliament made it when they were petitioned for a re-vote) that a democracy doesn’t work by continuing to hold election after election until you get the result you like.

My understanding of the Brexit vote was that it was more of an opinion poll. The Conservative Party, after getting the results, could have ignored the results or explained “We can’t leave the EU for reasons a, b, and c.”

That however would have taken the courage to face their constituents to explain why it’s a bad idea. As we’ve seen in the USA with conservatives, when faced with admitting a bad idea was a poor position to take, they avoid their constituents instead.

So rather than admit holding the referendum was wrong, or admitting the results would be bad, they’d rather destroy their economy to maintain their grip on power.

To quote Peter Cook:

“I want you to lay down your life, Perkins. We need a futile gesture at this stage. It will raise the whole tone of the war. Get up in a crate, Perkins, pop over to Bremen, take a shufti, don’t come back. Goodbye, Perkins. God, I wish I was going too.”

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 1, 2018 • 5:51:30am

re: #2 Eclectic Cyborg

Got CL’d on the last thread.

Moar stupid gun memes part eleventy:

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If those morons truly believe that they need guns to fight off an evil government, why don’t they work to make sure that we don’t lose our democracy? If for some reason, the American government turned on its citizens, a few armed citizens wouldn’t be able to fight back. They would be slaughtered with their guns.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 1, 2018 • 5:51:36am

re: #82 Anymouse 🌹

As someone commented there: I hope they were wearing 1Million SFP sunscreen.

Won’t do much good if your entire atmosphere has been ionized to hell and back.

We fortunately have a strong enough magnetic field to ward off most solar flares, but the really strong ones still wreak havoc with our comms systems.

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freetoken  Mar 1, 2018 • 5:52:05am

Fallout continues over wars fought centuries ago:

WATCH: Theresa May said leaving the European Union WOULD mean a hard border for Northern Ireland


Theresa May still hasn’t finished her big Brexit speech after crunch two-hour Cabinet meeting

Theresa May told her Cabinet she’ll reveal an “ambitious economic partnership with the EU” - but faces mounting pressure to resolve a deadlock over the Irish border

Just another example why secessionist fever is the path to chaos.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 1, 2018 • 5:52:46am

re: #85 ObserverArt

Morning!

Reading through the thread and saw this.

I think it is an admittance that Trump would expect hit Trumpers to lie. It also say’s Trump would lie himself.

I hope Mueller gets to interview The Big Orange Don because it is a pretty sure bet Trump would lie, lie and lie some more. Hopefully enough to be his undoing.

Also…what’s up with Putin rattling the cage with his new military toys? Is this some kind of a setup so he can save Donny maybe by them coming to some kind of an agreement to eliminate these weapons.

Or, just another Putin for President campaign ploy?

As Stephen Colbert said, Trump would have to eat through the hands of his lawyers in order to talk to Mueller. No responsible attorney working for Trump could possibly allow him to be questioned by law enforcement.

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Belafon  Mar 1, 2018 • 5:53:48am
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jeffreyw  Mar 1, 2018 • 5:53:50am

re: #78 Bubblehead II

You got rid of the smoke stack I see.

Alas, I forgot to bring the feeder in one night and the raccoons pillaged for the remaining seed. In the process they knocked it to the ground, the chimney did not survive. It’s just luck that they didn’t burn it, too.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 1, 2018 • 5:54:01am

re: #91 freetoken

The UK already had an “ambitious economic partnership” with the EU. It was called being part of the EU.

Bollocks.

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 1, 2018 • 5:55:05am

re: #66 Joe Bacon 🌹

Yes, let him slap that 25% tariff on imported steel and aluminum.

Watch the ensuing trade war.

Oh, and to all those Western PA Trumpettes who think the steel mills will reopen(including my brainwashed family)…too bad, they won’t…

Reopen? Hell half the mills that were here when I was a kid in the 70’s in NW PA aren’t even there anymore. They are empty lots or something different. 2 years ago they finally tore down the Damascus Tube plant that was a huge rust bucket of un-use for 10 years. HUGE open area that used to be Steel Car that was tore down years ago and just sitting there, because of the toxic soil from rail car painting (yes, I drink that stuff as it makes it into the water table).

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Lupin  Mar 1, 2018 • 6:00:04am

I don’t think you can reopen a steel mill, can you? Once it goes cold, it’s over, no?

I’ve always said that the only way the US will pull out of its delusional state is if enough people die or at least suffer greatly so that enough ignorant/apathetic folks are moved to vote. Like what happened with the Florida shooting but on a larger scale.

Same with the UK too; they need to go back to the 1880s to shake off their imperial delusion.

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freetoken  Mar 1, 2018 • 6:00:28am

re: #95 wheat-dogg

The UK already had an “ambitious economic partnership” with the EU. It was called being part of the EU.

Seems so obvious.

But the xenophobes behind Brexit are still at it, foaming at the mouth today over ideas that there is still some hope of a commercial union of sorts with the EU.

I still think the Irish issue, if we may label an entire island as an “issue”, is so awkward politically that Theresa May’s predecessor may go down in history as being one giant blundering fool.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 1, 2018 • 6:01:38am

Pleasant surprise in the Kentucky House as Republicans have figured out that you can’t have public education without money, and have proposed tax increases on cigarettes and opioids, Grover Norquist be damned.

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Lupin  Mar 1, 2018 • 6:02:51am

Will you please keep your homegrown nazis at home?

Steve Bannon in Rome (Guardian)

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 1, 2018 • 6:02:57am

re: #99 Big Beautiful Door

Pleasant surprise in the Kentucky House as Republicans have figured out that you can’t have public education without money, and have proposed tax increases on cigarettes and opioids, Grover Norquist be damned.

Cigarettes and opioids which are consumed by poorer folk. How nice.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 1, 2018 • 6:04:25am

re: #49 Anymouse 🌹

Chicken shortage at KFC? Could this be the real reason Donald Trump doesn’t want to travel to the United Kingdom? Inquiring minds want to know!

No, you are not going Alex Jones enough: this is part of a UK deep-state plot to keep Trump from wanting to visit.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 1, 2018 • 6:04:31am

re: #101 Patricia Kayden

Cigarettes and opioids which are consumed by poorer folk. How nice.

Well making it harder for them to kill themselves isn’t a bad idea. Even better is to adopt progressive measures so their lives are worth living.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 1, 2018 • 6:04:43am

re: #98 freetoken

Seems so obvious.

But the xenophobes behind Brexit are still at it, foaming at the mouth today over ideas that there is still some hope of a commercial union of sorts with the EU.

I still think the Irish issue, if we may label an entire island as an “issue”, is so awkward politically that Theresa May’s predecessor may go down in history as being one giant blundering fool.

Not to mention the Scots issue and the Welsh issue. We’ll look back at this clusterfuck years from now, wondering how anyone could have so stupid as to piss away what was left of the British Empire.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 1, 2018 • 6:07:08am

re: #87 dangerman

Does sunscreen work better before or after applying moisturizer?
Discuss

Or applying pineapples.

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freetoken  Mar 1, 2018 • 6:07:46am

re: #104 wheat-dogg

Not to mention the Scots issue and the Welsh issue. We’ll look back at this clusterfuck years from now, wondering how anyone could have so stupid as to piss away what was left of the British Empire.

The Tories seem to have gone down a path similar to the Republicans here.

Instead of falling on their swords (losing the majority) for the betterment of the whole, they decided to roll the dice on the extreme right wing in an attempt to remain in power.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 1, 2018 • 6:09:09am

re: #100 Lupin

Will you please keep your homegrown nazis at home?

Steve Bannon in Rome (Guardian)

Rome is sacred to fascists. Think of it as a religious pilgrimage.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 1, 2018 • 6:09:55am

re: #106 freetoken

The Tories seem to have gone down a path similar to the Republicans here.

Instead of falling on their swords (losing the majority) for the betterment of the whole, they decided to roll the dice on the extreme right wing in an attempt to remain in power.

I suggest it won’t work past the next election, once the general population realizes how fucked they are.

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dangerman  Mar 1, 2018 • 6:10:31am

re: #104 wheat-dogg

Not to mention the Scots issue and the Welsh issue. We’ll look back at this clusterfuck years from now, wondering how anyone could have so stupid as to piss away what was left of the British Empire.

+1 for “Scots”

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wheat-dogg  Mar 1, 2018 • 6:10:46am

re: #107 Decatur Deb

Rome is sacred to fascists. Think of it as a religious pilgrimage.

Not Republican Rome, but Imperial Rome, naturally.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 1, 2018 • 6:10:56am

re: #101 Patricia Kayden

Cigarettes and opioids which are consumed by poorer folk. How nice.

Taxing medications (opioids)? Hey, you’re in chronic pain from severe arthritis or cancer or something, and we’ll tax you for relief.

Nice going, compassionate conservatives.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 1, 2018 • 6:10:57am

re: #102 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

No, you are not going Alex Jones enough: this is part of a UK deep-state plot to keep Trump from wanting to visit.

Bernie, Sarah, The Colonel. There is at least one too many Sanders in our body politic.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 1, 2018 • 6:11:51am

re: #109 dangerman

+1 for “Scots”

I’ve been corrected several times by indignant Scots people.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 1, 2018 • 6:12:31am

re: #112 Decatur Deb

Bernie, Sarah, The Colonel. There is at least one too many Sanders in our body politic.

Not to mention Belt and Rotary.

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ObserverArt  Mar 1, 2018 • 6:12:55am

re: #97 Lupin

I don’t think you can reopen a steel mill, can you? Once it goes cold, it’s over, no?

I’ve always said that the only way the US will pull out of its delusional state is if enough people die or at least suffer greatly so that enough ignorant/apathetic folks are moved to vote. Like what happened with the Florida shooting but on a larger scale.

Same with the UK too; they need to go back to the 1880s to shake off their imperial delusion.

Steel is a completely different and smaller process than it used to be. They no longer need those huge plants as they did back in the early 1900s. It is much cleaner and uses less energy because of the newer furnaces, etc.

And that is what people always forget. Processes become more efficient and there is less need for huge plants and the huge amounts of workers. It is like that in all industries. The past is just that…past.

There is a company out of Columbus that has smaller plants all over the US and elsewhere making products needed for industries in the areas they serve. They have been a booming company in this area for years and they have grown all over the country.

Check it out: Worthington Industries

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dangerman  Mar 1, 2018 • 6:13:41am

re: #113 wheat-dogg

I’ve been corrected several times by indignant Scots people.

I’m just a word and grammar pedant sometimes

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Decatur Deb  Mar 1, 2018 • 6:14:32am

re: #110 wheat-dogg

Not Republican Rome, but Imperial Rome, naturally.

From the First Triumvirate to Berlusconi they’ve been pretty consistent.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 1, 2018 • 6:14:52am

re: #113 wheat-dogg

I’ve been corrected several times by indignant Scots people.

Scots who drink liquor aren’t the same as liquor itself (Scotch).

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Belafon  Mar 1, 2018 • 6:15:54am

This is an interesting analysis (h/t Balloon Juice):

The main reason that companies have been increasingly willing to take one side of hot-button social issues (the left-leaning side) is that’s increasingly a good strategy to please customers and employees.

Partly, this is because certain policy issues have disproportionately left-leaning polling. Gay rights are popular. Most of the gun regulations on offer in the current debate poll well, too.

But it’s also because socially liberal segments of the public punch above their weight as potential customers (and, in some cases, as potential employees) for these companies…

Meanwhile, in recent decades, American politics has become much more polarized by age than it used to be, and much less polarized by income than it used to be. Affluent people are not (yet) a Democratic-leaning demographic, but they’re not the strongly Republican-leaning demographic they were 30 years ago. And young people report strongly liberal attitudes on social issues and strong opposition to President Donald Trump.

All of which means, when a company like Delta Air Lines imagines its average target customer — on the early side of middle age with plenty of disposable income — that customer is probably a lot farther to the left politically, especially on social issues, than would have been true in the past…

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 1, 2018 • 6:16:07am

re: #99 Big Beautiful Door

Pleasant surprise in the Kentucky House as Republicans have figured out that you can’t have public education without money, and have proposed tax increases on cigarettes and opioids, Grover Norquist be damned.

Nice. I walked or road my bike past the U of K hospital in Lexington every weekday for a couple of years and was astounded by the number of patients and nurses outside smoking all the time. One Saturday my family and I volunteered for roadside cleaning for a local food coop we belonged to. Thousands and thousands of cigarette butts—and I had the distinct pleasure of more than one passing car actually flick a butt at me as I worked. Tax the hell out of them.

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BlueSpotinAL  Mar 1, 2018 • 6:18:30am

re: #113 wheat-dogg

I’ve been corrected several times by indignant Scots people.

I am a Scotch person myself, prefer Oban. That is, when I am not one of the Bourbons of France.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 1, 2018 • 6:19:50am

re: #118 Anymouse 🌹

Scots who drink liquor aren’t the same as liquor itself (Scotch).

I learned it this way:
Scots are the people and the language
Scotch is the drink
Scottish is anything relating to Scotland, Scots people, etc. (an adjective)

laddie

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dangerman  Mar 1, 2018 • 6:20:37am

re: #119 Belafon

This is an interesting analysis (h/t Balloon Juice):

A good analysis but of course its true
A for profit is not altruistic
A decision has to be good for business

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Belafon  Mar 1, 2018 • 6:21:17am

Infrastructure weeks are coming to Dallas:

Atmos Energy to stop gas service for three weeks; 2,800 homes affected in ‘extraordinary event’

Atmos Energy will be conducting a planned outage of its natural gas service starting at noon on Thursday affecting 2,800 homes in the northwest Dallas area.

In what the company is calling a “truly extraordinary event” the affected neighborhoods will be out of service for 3-4 weeks.

The company says weather conditions over the past several weeks was the cause of the sudden and extreme leaks in several gas lines.

We’ve had so much rain that it exasperated already weakening gas lines. They’re bringing in 120 crews to work as quickly as possible.

I expect this type of thing, repairing old infrastructure, to be repeated all over the country.

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lawhawk  Mar 1, 2018 • 6:21:42am

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area.

Trump’s already walked back gun control comments made just yesterday - sabotaging efforts to deal with gun violence, because yeah, he’s totally dancing to the NRA tune.

His idiocy about grabbing guns first and due process later totally fits with his persona.

After all, he called for locking up Hillary with no evidence there was even a crime. He’s got the DOJ looking at investigating Clinton and Obama for something all while everyone around him is looking ever more guilty or under suspicion of criminal wrongdoing is so many ways that a scorecard isn’t sufficient. Too many players and too many potential high crimes and misdemeanors.

Trump didn’t drain the swamp. He imported a fresh steaming pile of swamp, flooding the swamp with sewage runoff, and then gold plated it so his idiot supporters think that he’s doing a great job.

He’s managed to hoodwink his supporters.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 1, 2018 • 6:23:13am

re: #121 BlueSpotinAL

I am a Scotch person myself, prefer Oban. That is, when I am not one of the Bourbons of France.

I really like single-malts, but they are oppressively expensive in China. I am grateful to whomever recommended The Famous Grouse here. It’s affordable even in China, so I can get my occasional fix of a blended Scotch.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 1, 2018 • 6:23:44am

Stacy’s got muffins…..

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Decatur Deb  Mar 1, 2018 • 6:24:36am

re: #121 BlueSpotinAL

I am a Scotch person myself, prefer Oban. That is, when I am not one of the Bourbons of France.

Guess that makes us Gallons.

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dangerman  Mar 1, 2018 • 6:28:34am

re: #125 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area.

Trump’s already walked back gun control comments made just yesterday - sabotaging efforts to deal with gun violence, because yeah, he’s totally dancing to the NRA tune.

His idiocy about grabbing guns first and due process later totally fits with his persona.

After all, he called for locking up Hillary with no evidence there was even a crime. He’s got the DOJ looking at investigating Clinton and Obama for something all while everyone around him is looking ever more guilty or under suspicion of criminal wrongdoing is so many ways that a scorecard isn’t sufficient. Too many players and too many potential high crimes and misdemeanors.

Trump didn’t drain the swamp. He imported a fresh steaming pile of swamp, flooding the swamp with sewage runoff, and then gold plated it so his idiot supporters think that he’s doing a great job.

He’s managed to hoodwink his supporters.

every time he does one of these televised meetings its obvious he’s reading an old playbook

get a bunch of people in a room, he’s the meeting chairman
toss around ideas (no idea is too stupid)
until, gosh darn it, we have the bestest solution possible!

then just go out and implement it.

see? i bring the best people together and we make the best decisions.
i am the dealmaker

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wheat-dogg  Mar 1, 2018 • 6:29:42am

Shared on one of my Facebook groups. The high school in question is on Long Island.

This week, Westport’s high school (the town I live in) had a gun scare. A hormonal teen threatened to shoot up the school, and an alert fellow teen told the school administration, who contacted the police. The police found a cache of guns at his home, including an AR15. His parents’ defense was that the guns were locked in a safe.

I will never forget, as a teen, babysitting for a family friend’s kids in Lloyd Harbor. The dad had a gun, locked in a gun cabinet and had thought he unloaded all the bullets. Another babysitter was there that night. The 12(?)-yr old son, removed the gun from the cabinet, and fired a couple of rounds, and saw the first chambers were empty. Then he pointed it, joking, at the babysitter and fired. There was one bullet left in the last chamber that he did not know about and he killed his 16-yr old babysitter-something that he -and his parents -have had to live with for the rest of their lives.

A lot of lives were destroyed that night by a hidden, locked, “unloaded” gun.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 1, 2018 • 6:30:54am

re: #129 dangerman

Trump is just playing out The Apprentice shtick, pretending it’s governance.

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lawhawk  Mar 1, 2018 • 6:32:39am
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dangerman  Mar 1, 2018 • 6:34:07am

re: #130 wheat-dogg

Shared on one of my Facebook groups. The high school in question is on Long Island.

Gun possessors don’t take gun potential seriously

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dangerman  Mar 1, 2018 • 6:35:05am

re: #131 wheat-dogg

Trump is just playing out The Apprentice shtick, pretending it’s governance.

No doubt
I’ve never seen it so…

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Belafon  Mar 1, 2018 • 6:36:11am

re: #132 lawhawk

I’m kind of surprised there hasn’t been a lawsuit over the tariff.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 1, 2018 • 6:42:36am

re: #89 Patricia Kayden

If those morons truly believe that they need guns to fight off an evil government, why don’t they work to make sure that we don’t lose our democracy? If for some reason, the American government turned on its citizens, a few armed citizens wouldn’t be able to fight back. They would be slaughtered with their guns.

They think the cops and military would be on their side. Seriously.

And “A bunch of guys with AKs are kicking our ass in Afghanistan.” - someone actually posted that on a friend’s FB.

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jeffreyw  Mar 1, 2018 • 6:43:32am

re: #103 Big Beautiful Door

Well making it harder for them to kill themselves isn’t a bad idea. Even better is to adopt progressive measures so their lives are worth living.

This measure will increase the prices and make it that much more likely that they will go to black market cigarettes and heroin. This means that some of the illicit buyers will face increased law enforcement actions due to the surge in illegality.

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dangerman  Mar 1, 2018 • 6:48:32am

here’s an amazing contortion

Behind Cruz’s Rampage: Obama’s School-Leniency Policy

Despite committing a string of arrestable offenses on campus before the Florida school shooting, Nikolas Cruz was able to escape the attention of law enforcement, pass a background check and purchase the weapon he used to slaughter 14 fellow students and three adults because of Obama administration efforts to make school discipline more lenient.

“He had a clean record, so alarm bells didn’t go off when they looked him up in the system,” veteran FBI agent Michael Biasello told RCI. “He probably wouldn’t have been able to buy the murder weapon if the school had referred him to law enforcement.”

so he was able to
“escape the attention of law enforcement”
“pass a background check”
“purchase the weapon”
etc

because he hadnt committed a crime or had a criminal record

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Dave In Austin  Mar 1, 2018 • 6:51:22am
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HappyWarrior  Mar 1, 2018 • 6:52:23am

re: #138 dangerman

here’s an amazing contortion

Behind Cruz’s Rampage: Obama’s School-Leniency Policy

Despite committing a string of arrestable offenses on campus before the Florida school shooting, Nikolas Cruz was able to escape the attention of law enforcement, pass a background check and purchase the weapon he used to slaughter 14 fellow students and three adults because of Obama administration efforts to make school discipline more lenient.

“He had a clean record, so alarm bells didn’t go off when they looked him up in the system,” veteran FBI agent Michael Biasello told RCI. “He probably wouldn’t have been able to buy the murder weapon if the school had referred him to law enforcement.”

so he was able to
“escape the attention of law enforcement”
“pass a background check”
“purchase the weapon”
etc

because he hadnt committed a crime or had a criminal record

Yeah it’s Obama’s fault. That’s the ticket.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 1, 2018 • 6:52:52am

Literally every Trumper.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 1, 2018 • 6:53:04am
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HappyWarrior  Mar 1, 2018 • 6:53:08am

Don’t blame the NRA but blame Obama. Oh conservative pretzel logic you never cease to amaze.

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William Lewis  Mar 1, 2018 • 6:54:23am

re: #113 wheat-dogg

I’ve been corrected several times by indignant Scots people.

Awfully pict-y about it , aren’t they?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 1, 2018 • 6:56:32am

re: #122 wheat-dogg

I learned it this way:
Scots are the people and the language
Scotch is the drink
Scottish is anything relating to Scotland, Scots people, etc. (an adjective)

laddie

Don’t forget the Scotch Game in Chess! 1e4 e5 2Nf3 Nc6 3 d4!

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 1, 2018 • 6:57:14am

re: #137 jeffreyw

This measure will increase the prices and make it that much more likely that they will go to black market cigarettes and heroin. This means that some of the illicit buyers will face increased law enforcement actions due to the surge in illegality.

Kentucky has one of the lowest cigarette taxes in the nation, and research shows that higher prices for cigarettes help prevent teens from starting. When you consider that the money raised is also going to go to education, I think its a slam dunk policy. There has already been a crackdown on pill mills, so I think the shift of people hooked on prescription opioids to heroin already occurred.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 1, 2018 • 6:57:54am

re: #141 GlutenFreeJesus

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Literally every Trumper.

Tried to blame mental illness while supporting politicians that cut mental health services.

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dangerman  Mar 1, 2018 • 6:58:37am

re: #141 GlutenFreeJesus

[Embedded content]

Literally every Trumper.

has their guns blessed

re: #27 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

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wheat-dogg  Mar 1, 2018 • 6:58:58am

re: #144 William Lewis

Awfully pict-y about it , aren’t they?

They get their kilts all in a knot about it.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 1, 2018 • 6:59:01am

re: #144 William Lewis

Awfully pict-y about it , aren’t they?

Ha, they are. Well played. I’ve gotten to know some Scots since I had a second great grandmother born there but her folks were Irish.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 1, 2018 • 6:59:54am

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dangerman  Mar 1, 2018 • 7:00:21am

re: #143 HappyWarrior

Don’t blame the NRA but blame Obama. Oh conservative pretzel logic you never cease to amaze.

they never give up

last night’s hannity

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Belafon  Mar 1, 2018 • 7:01:18am

The March for Life on the 24th in DC has hit a bit of a snag. According to the Park Service, an educational group is supposed to film on that day:

A planned rally against mass shootings can’t be held on the Mall later this month because it conflicts with what’s described in a National Park Service permit application as a “talent show.”

A permit application filed last week by survivors of the Parkland, Fla., school massacre indicated the “March For Our Lives” rally will be on March 24, with up to 500,000 attendees expected. Mike Litterst, a spokesman for the Park Service, said organizers proposed holding the event on the Mall but were looking to move the rally to another location after the request conflicted with a film crew’s permit.

Litterst said the film permit was “from a student group at a local educational institution,” but he wouldn’t name the institution because “applications from educational institutions are withheld from release for privacy reasons,” he wrote in an email.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 1, 2018 • 7:03:19am

re: #152 dangerman

they never give up

last night’s hannity

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Yep on the day Hicks resigns, Trump talks about taking away guns before due process, Hannity finds the real culprit, Hillary. Sad!

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 1, 2018 • 7:04:28am

“I’m not a complete idiot. Some parts are missing.”

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HappyWarrior  Mar 1, 2018 • 7:04:42am

re: #153 Belafon

The March for Life on the 24th in DC has hit a bit of a snag. According to the Park Service, an educational group is supposed to film on that day:

Maybe I’m missing something but the Mall is quite big. Can’t they share it?

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 1, 2018 • 7:06:07am

re: #94 jeffreyw

Alas, I forgot to bring the feeder in one night and the raccoons pillaged for the remaining seed. In the process they knocked it to the ground, the chimney did not survive. It’s just luck that they didn’t burn it, too.

They probably had just won the Raccoon Super Bowl and were celebrating. If asked, they will blame it on the Blackbirds.

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Bubblehead II  Mar 1, 2018 • 7:08:34am
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Decatur Deb  Mar 1, 2018 • 7:09:48am

“March For Our Lives” , “March For Life”. Not good PR awareness by the good-guy organizers.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 1, 2018 • 7:13:01am

Initial unemployment claims dropped to only 210k; job losses are now at their lowest levels since the 1960s, when the labor force was only half the size it is now. Americans haven’t had this much job security since WWII; thanks Obama!

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Belafon  Mar 1, 2018 • 7:13:43am

re: #159 Decatur Deb

“March For Our Lives” , “March For Life”. Not good PR awareness by the good-guy organizers.

“We care about you after you’ve been born, too.”

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HappyWarrior  Mar 1, 2018 • 7:17:20am

re: #160 Big Beautiful Door

Initial unemployment claims dropped to only 210k; job losses are now at their lowest levels since the 1960s, when the labor force was only half the size it is now. Americans haven’t had this much job security since WWII; thanks Obama!

But Obama was the food stamp President, just ask Newt!

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bill d. (b.d.)  Mar 1, 2018 • 7:18:27am

re: #139 Dave In Austin

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Sir John Barron  Mar 1, 2018 • 7:20:04am

re: #154 HappyWarrior

Yep on the day Hicks resigns, Trump talks about taking away guns before due process, Hannity finds the real culprit, Hillary. Sad!

President Hillary Clinton is doing a terrible job.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 1, 2018 • 7:21:46am

re: #164 Sir John Barron

President Hillary Clinton is doing a terrible job.

Didn’t he slip up and say she needs to be impeached.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 1, 2018 • 7:28:38am

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 1, 2018 • 7:29:07am

re: #153 Belafon

The March for Life on the 24th in DC has hit a bit of a snag. According to the Park Service, an educational group is supposed to film on that day:

Filming for a talent show for an educational institution?

While arranging a permit for such an activity is probably time-consuming, it would seem they’d be interested in backing out … especially if brought to public attention on the Internet … or change the focus of their filming to the march.

Or, perhaps (conspiratorial hat on) the government is trying to shut down the march with this educational talent show filming group whose name is redacted because it doesn’t really exist.

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Interesting Times  Mar 1, 2018 • 7:32:02am

In which a teenager might accomplish everything the overpriced Democratic consultants could not:

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Dr. Matt  Mar 1, 2018 • 7:33:45am

re: #41 Anymouse 🌹

Trump Nobel Peace Prize Nomination Probed amidst Fakery Concerns (goes to the BBC)

Mr Trump was reportedly nominated for his “ideology of peace by force” by an anonymous American.

This is straight-up 1984 territory.

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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 1, 2018 • 7:34:18am

Oh to be an Air Force pilot these days…
Watch this F-22 Raptor Execute A Mind-Blowing Inverted Somersault At Altitude

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ObserverArt  Mar 1, 2018 • 7:35:51am

re: #124 Belafon

Infrastructure weeks are coming to Dallas:

Atmos Energy to stop gas service for three weeks; 2,800 homes affected in ‘extraordinary event’

We’ve had so much rain that it exasperated already weakening gas lines. They’re bringing in 120 crews to work as quickly as possible.

I expect this type of thing, repairing old infrastructure, to be repeated all over the country.

Columbus has been rebuilding just about everything over the last 20 years. Currently in the downtown area there is a hardly a street that isn’t torn up.

Good thing though is when they are digging they seem to repair everything that is exposed. Also, they are putting in Wifi and other communications equipment as they go.

Biggest changes have been to sewer systems which is a good thing.

And there is building of more housing, mostly apartments and condos all over the city.

We are getting ready for the new Amazon eastern HQ. Heh. Actually Amazon is already building three different complexes around here now.

Boomtown.

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Belafon  Mar 1, 2018 • 7:37:26am

re: #168 Interesting Times

In which a teenager might accomplish everything the overpriced Democratic consultants could not:

Which kid listens to adults anyway?

The overpriced consultants serve a purpose, but nothing gets peoples attention like the deaths of a few friends.

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ObserverArt  Mar 1, 2018 • 7:38:30am

re: #129 dangerman

every time he does one of these televised meetings its obvious he’s reading an old playbook

get a bunch of people in a room, he’s the meeting chairman
toss around ideas (no idea is too stupid)
until, gosh darn it, we have the bestest solution possible!

then just go out and implement it.

see? i bring the best people together and we make the best decisions.
i am the dealmaker

All as fake as his hair. The Comb-over meeting so you don’t see the obvious bald spots in the thinking.

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dangerman  Mar 1, 2018 • 7:38:44am

re: #168 Interesting Times

In which a teenager might accomplish everything the overpriced Democratic consultants could not:

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pulled from the replys:

The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a vote!

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 1, 2018 • 7:46:13am
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ObserverArt  Mar 1, 2018 • 7:46:39am

re: #152 dangerman

they never give up

last night’s hannity

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Heh. Seeing your post gave me the idea for a new word.

inhannity

A new kind of mental illness created by watching too much Fox news and other types of conservative confirmation bias media.

Use: Stop listening to Trump, it is complete inhannity.

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Belafon  Mar 1, 2018 • 7:47:39am

If I could slap around some of my co-whites:

According to a new poll by The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research, 57 percent of Americans think Trump’s policies have been bad for Muslims, and 56 percent think they’ve been bad for Hispanics. Forty-seven percent, including three-quarters of blacks, think they’ve been bad for African Americans.

Fifty-seven percent of all adults, including more than 8 in 10 blacks, three-quarters of Hispanics and nearly half of whites, said they think Trump is racist. Eighty-five percent of Democrats consider Trump racist, but just 21 percent of Republicans agree.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 1, 2018 • 7:48:30am

re: #177 Belafon

If I could slap around some of my co-whites:

Inorite?

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ObserverArt  Mar 1, 2018 • 7:51:27am

re: #153 Belafon

The March for Life on the 24th in DC has hit a bit of a snag. According to the Park Service, an educational group is supposed to film on that day:

Why do I feel like this may be some kind of a way to stop the march?

Could it be because you can no longer trust anything in DC in The Time of Trump?

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Belafon  Mar 1, 2018 • 7:53:40am

re: #179 ObserverArt

Why do I feel like this may be some kind of a way to stop the march?

Could it be because you can no longer trust anything in DC in The Time of Trump?

Because the march was a reaction to the shooting, I could see there being an issue with not getting all the details right before the announcement, but there’s enough suspicion about this administration that I’m the same way. I want them to prove the group they mentioned filed first.

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dangerman  Mar 1, 2018 • 7:57:53am

re: #172 Belafon

Which kid listens to adults anyway?

The overpriced consultants serve a purpose, but nothing gets peoples attention like the deaths of a few friends.

how sad this is

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dangerman  Mar 1, 2018 • 7:59:15am

re: #176 ObserverArt

Heh. Seeing your post gave me the idea for a new word.

inhannity

A new kind of mental illness created by watching too much Fox news and other types of conservative confirmation bias media.

Use: Stop listening to Trump, it is complete inhannity.

i am definitely using that!

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sagehen  Mar 1, 2018 • 7:59:21am

re: #122 wheat-dogg

I learned it this way:
Scots are the people and the language
Scotch is the drink
Scottish is anything relating to Scotland, Scots people, etc. (an adjective)

laddie

Scotch tape.

pwned

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Belafon  Mar 1, 2018 • 8:00:43am

re: #181 dangerman

how sad this is

Yep. No one should ever have to learn to get into politics because friends were killed. No parent should have to learn that lesson. No community should.

I’ll say it again: We failed them. We have to help them make it better.

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William Lewis  Mar 1, 2018 • 8:01:04am

re: #183 sagehen

Scotch tape.

pwned

I though they only used that to make TV shows in Edinburgh?

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 1, 2018 • 8:01:06am

re: #179 ObserverArt

Why do I feel like this may be some kind of a way to stop the march?

Could it be because you can no longer trust anything in DC in The Time of Trump?

I called it first:
re: #167 Anymouse 🌹

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dangerman  Mar 1, 2018 • 8:01:19am

re: #183 sagehen

Scotch tape.

pwned

hop

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Mar 1, 2018 • 8:05:11am

Good morning!

Remember DT’s shithole countries, and his wish for more immigrants from places like Norway? A Kindle Prime offering this month is “Hell’s Princess” the biography of one of the nastiest of US serial killers (and the rare woman) — a Norwegian immigrant.

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jeffreyw  Mar 1, 2018 • 8:06:13am

re: #157 Eventual Carrion

They probably had just won the Raccoon Super Bowl and were celebrating. If asked, they will blame it on the Blackbirds.

I have the receipts.

Imgur

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dangerman  Mar 1, 2018 • 8:07:34am

re: #189 jeffreyw

I have the receipts.

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deny!
even if they have pictures

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 1, 2018 • 8:08:57am

re: #169 Dr. Matt

This is straight-up 1984 territory.

The beatings will continue until moral improves!

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dangerman  Mar 1, 2018 • 8:12:54am

OT:

mrs dm uses a prop for this yoga pose - has for years
yesterday she realized it’s, well a little green football

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mar 1, 2018 • 8:14:08am

I smell a rat. How convenient that there is a “talent show” already scheduled to be held on the National Mall the same day that the March For Our Lives wants to use it.

Link

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sagehen  Mar 1, 2018 • 8:14:10am

re: #192 dangerman

OT:

mrs dm uses a prop for this yoga pose - has for years
yesterday she realized it’s, well a little green football

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I had to pay a lot to get my hair that color; was she lucky enough to be born with it?

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plansbandc  Mar 1, 2018 • 8:15:12am

And in other news, what a dick!

denverpost.com

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jeffreyw  Mar 1, 2018 • 8:15:22am

re: #192 dangerman

OT:

mrs dm uses a prop for this yoga pose - has for years
yesterday she realized it’s, well a little green football

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Is that pose named Crouching Tiger? Because that would be so meta.

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ObserverArt  Mar 1, 2018 • 8:17:39am

re: #186 Anymouse 🌹

I called it first:

What did you win?!

Actually, I bet there is much suspicion. I’d be interested to know how much there is in South Florida.

And I wonder if the NRA has anything to do with the “other” permit.

Not too trustful of GOP, Trump and NRA these days.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 1, 2018 • 8:22:03am

re: #175 GlutenFreeJesus

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Video

“The bunny gets the pancake”.

They got that from Mr. Creosote, LOL. I love it.

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Bubblehead II  Mar 1, 2018 • 8:22:26am

Looking like you Lizards in the North East are going to get hammered (weather wise) tomorrow.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 1, 2018 • 8:23:22am

re: #195 plansbandc

And in other news, what a dick!

denverpost.com

Methodist Episcopal Church college.

Apparently God disapproves of Colorado.

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ObserverArt  Mar 1, 2018 • 8:24:50am

re: #199 Bubblehead II

Looking like you Lizards in the North East are going to get hammered (weather wise) tomorrow.

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Just saw some coverage of that on the news. Sounds like there may be coastal flooding.

makeitstop is out there on Long Island.

I hope all the east coast Lizards in the way stay safe.

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Belafon  Mar 1, 2018 • 8:24:59am

Lake Lavon, one of the many man made lakes in the area, has gained 9 feet since the rains started here in the DFW area mid February.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 1, 2018 • 8:27:05am

re: #200 Anymouse 🌹

Update: God disapproves of Colorado, and presumably California, Washington, Oregon, and Alaska.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 1, 2018 • 8:29:30am

Are there any areas in DC where you can march without a permit? I’d hate to see this thing shut down that easily.

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CongoJack  Mar 1, 2018 • 8:30:08am

re: #200 Anymouse 🌹

Methodist Episcopal Church college.

Apparently God disapproves of Colorado.

I put in bold the real issue.

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Belafon  Mar 1, 2018 • 8:31:02am

re: #205 CongoJack

Are they “distributors of meth”? It’s kind of their first name.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 1, 2018 • 8:31:22am

re: #204 Eclectic Cyborg

Are there any areas in DC where you can march without a permit? I’d hate to see this thing shut down that easily.

Calling the ACLU.

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Alephnaught  Mar 1, 2018 • 8:33:06am

The Red alert for snow over in Central Scotland has passed and is now “only” Amber.

Meanwhile, Ireland is currently in total lockdown.

EDIT: There’s also a Red warning currently in force in some part of Southern England and Wales.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 1, 2018 • 8:33:11am

re: #206 Belafon

Are they “distributors of meth”? It’s kind of their first name.

Hethodist(ributor)

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 1, 2018 • 8:33:26am

re: #204 Eclectic Cyborg

Are there any areas in DC where you can march without a permit? I’d hate to see this thing shut down that easily.

Considering how so many people have made plans to be there (hotels, &c), the next step might be civil disobedience. Two hundred fifty thousand people would be tough to arrest.

That goes into national strike territory.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 1, 2018 • 8:33:59am

re: #208 Alephnaught

The Red alert for snow over in Central Scotland has passed and is now “only” Amber.

Meanwhile, Ireland is currently in total lockdown.

Quote from UK “A country that is totally shut down by two inches of snow thinks they are good to go it alone without Europe”

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Dr. Matt  Mar 1, 2018 • 8:41:40am

re: #195 plansbandc

And in other news, what a dick!

denverpost.com

Someone is going to be out of a job very soon.

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Alephnaught  Mar 1, 2018 • 8:43:04am

re: #211 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Quote from UK “A country that is totally shut down by two inches of snow thinks they are good to go it alone without Europe”

Whilst I’m not in disagreement with that statement, there has been a great deal more than 2 inches of snow falling in central Scotland over the past day- it almost been getting to 12 inches in some parts. And they’re expecting up to 15 inches in some parts of England and Wales today. And in Ireland, it’s something like that, with gale force winds added.

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Varek Raith  Mar 1, 2018 • 8:43:15am

This one wierd trick will protect you from perjury;
Don’t lie.
…Yeah, that simple.
/Perjury ‘traps’ e_e

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 1, 2018 • 8:44:00am

Fuck Walmart.

My friend works at a Neighborhkod Market and his manager is refusing to work with him to scale back his hours because because if he goes too high he loses his SS disability benefits.

The manager told him by even bringing up this discussion he’d effectively put in his two weeks (which I think is total bullshit) and be prepared to be scheduled accordingly.

After mulling it over for a day or two, my friend formally put his two weeks in. I told him he should fight them over this as I believe there could be a legal violation involved.

He says he’ll look into it once he gets another job lined up.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 1, 2018 • 8:46:48am

Trump reportedly was addicted to prescription amphetamine derivative throughout 80s.

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 1, 2018 • 8:50:27am

re: #208 Alephnaught

The Red alert for snow over in Central Scotland has passed and is now “only” Amber.

Meanwhile, Ireland is currently in total lockdown.

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It’s so bad they’re driving on the wrong side of the road.
//

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 1, 2018 • 8:52:45am

re: #139 Dave In Austin

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I absolutely love those kids!! They’re so outspoken and passionate but I guess that’s what happens when you witness your friends being murdered.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 1, 2018 • 8:56:41am

re: #189 jeffreyw

I have the receipts.

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This I know…. I have to put a few of mine up as well. I have a raccoon baffle keeps them off the main feed station.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 1, 2018 • 8:58:19am

re: #215 Eclectic Cyborg

Fuck Walmart.

My friend works at a Neighborhkod Market and his manager is refusing to work with him to scale back his hours because because if he goes too high he loses his SS disability benefits.

The manager told him by even bringing up this discussion he’d effectively put in his two weeks (which I think is total bullshit) and be prepared to be scheduled accordingly.

After mulling it over for a day or two, my friend formally put his two weeks in. I told him he should fight them over this as I believe there could be a legal violation involved.

He says he’ll look into it once he gets another job lined up.

If your friend has a disability that might constitute a refusal to accommodate his disability in violation of the ADA. He should contact the appropriate state or local human rights commission.

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JordanRules  Mar 1, 2018 • 8:58:31am

re: #172 Belafon

Not to mention all the groups on the ground doing GOTV. This stuff doesn’t have to come from on high any more. We are the change we’ve been waiting for was real. It’s not really a message just for marketing a new centralized leadership push, it’s a call to action that empowers individuals and local communities and I think that makes it much stronger.

The more attention the better! The more momentum and engagement the better! And it’s amazing that the kids immediately knew to tie this to the one thing that can make change - voting.

Yara Shahidi’s group, Eighteen X, was already formed to register first time voters. Spread the Vote is an organization that has been doing the very hard work of helping folks get IDs. And we had amazing voter registration initiatives that took great advantage of the Black Panther phenomenon. That was super cool!

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ObserverArt  Mar 1, 2018 • 9:00:31am

re: #213 Alephnaught

Whilst I’m not in disagreement with that statement, there has been a great deal more than 2 inches of snow falling in central Scotland over the past day- it almost been getting to 12 inches in some parts. And they’re expecting up to 15 inches in some parts of England and Wales today. And in Ireland, it’s something like that, with gale force winds added.

I’m a Formula One racing fan and they are preseason testing at a race track near Barcelona. Yesterday much of their testing session was halted due to snow.

Crazy weather everywhere these days.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 1, 2018 • 9:02:00am

re: #222 ObserverArt

Meanwhile, in San Antonio where I’m currently vacationing, it got up to 87 yesterday. That is too damn high for February.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 1, 2018 • 9:03:14am

re: #216 Barefoot Grin

Trump reportedly was addicted to prescription amphetamine derivative throughout 80s.

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That explains a lot.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 1, 2018 • 9:06:59am

re: #218 Patricia Kayden

I absolutely love those kids!! They’re so outspoken and passionate but I guess that’s what happens when you witness your friends being murdered.

Pass it on and vote. I told one of the Congressional here that she needed to completely forget about the men in our district (TX25). They are not worth her time or money. Rather, target their wives and daughters. It’s the only way to a win here in TX in so many ways.

If Julie is to win, she will need National exposure. I for one will be pushing for that because the DNC is only pushing 3 races here in TX

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ObserverArt  Mar 1, 2018 • 9:08:47am

re: #225 Dave In Austin

Pass it on and vote. I told one of the Congressional here that she needed to completely forget about the men in our district (TX25). They are not worth her time or money. Rather, target their wives and daughters. It’s the only way to a win here in TX in so many ways.

If Julie is to win, she will need National exposure. I for one will be pushing for that because the DNC is only pushing 3 races here in TX

DNC or DCCC?

The reason I ask is there seems to be differences in what their goals are and how to reach them.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Mar 1, 2018 • 9:10:37am

Being almost a hundred years old had nothing to do with it.

Facebook Post

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 1, 2018 • 9:12:02am

re: #224 HappyWarrior

That explains a lot.

Wouldn’t surprise me if Dr. “Trump’s the most healthy president evah!!” helped him get another prescription.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 1, 2018 • 9:12:59am

re: #227 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Being almost a hundred years old had nothing to do with it.

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Wish these douchebags could just get raptured already.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 1, 2018 • 9:13:14am

re: #227 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Being almost a hundred years old had nothing to do with it.

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It was end times in the 80’s with kids and their metal music. Be nice if the people sending this old con some money would realize that. He was 99 and sick for awhile. We’re talking about a man born while WWI was still being fought.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 1, 2018 • 9:14:09am

re: #228 Barefoot Grin

Wouldn’t surprise me if Dr. “Trump’s the most healthy president evah!!” helped him get another prescription.

Trump’s very own Theodor Morrel.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 1, 2018 • 9:16:33am

re: #226 ObserverArt

DNC or DCCC?

The reason I ask is there seems to be differences in what their goals are and how to reach them.

I don’t know. whoever fund these Congressional races. Julie is funding herself through donation. Her and Matt are by no means wealthy.

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ObserverArt  Mar 1, 2018 • 9:16:49am

re: #226 ObserverArt

DNC or DCCC?

The reason I ask is there seems to be differences in what their goals are and how to reach them.

I checked what was going on with the DCCC after this post a few minutes ago.

AXIOS has an article up that goes to my concern of how the two groups may be at odds. Sounds messy. Sigh.

AXIOS - The DCCC’s messaging woes

Three internal strategy memos from the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee have now leaked in two days, the week after the organization was criticized for attacking a Democratic candidate in Texas.

Why it matters: Growing party divisions and messaging leaks that are at odds with what some progressives are pushing for could hurt Democrats’ chances at taking back the House. That division is becoming a problem in races overcrowded with Democratic candidates because the DCCC is “keeping all options on the table” to intervene in various Congressional primaries, according to Politico.

…Three memos and their problems explained at link…

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Dr. Matt  Mar 1, 2018 • 9:18:45am

re: #216 Barefoot Grin

Trump reportedly was addicted to prescription amphetamine derivative throughout 80s.

But, but, but, Alex Jones sez Obama did coke in a limo with Teh Gays?!?!

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Stanley Sea  Mar 1, 2018 • 9:19:14am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 1, 2018 • 9:20:27am

re: #221 JordanRules

Not to mention all the groups on the ground doing GOTV. This stuff doesn’t have to come from on high any more. We are the change we’ve been waiting for was real. It’s not really a message just for marketing a new centralized leadership push, it’s a call to action that empowers individuals and local communities and I think that makes it much stronger.

People had to learn the price of voter apathy the hard way…

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Dave In Austin  Mar 1, 2018 • 9:21:10am

re: #233 ObserverArt

Passing this on. Thx Art.

People….. If you have a race in your district, work it. I HATE the phones but strategy, research, and driving people to the polls seems to be a groove that’s taking form and the Olivers seem to trust me.

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gwangung  Mar 1, 2018 • 9:21:55am

An under-reported story about police killings?

Splinter far right groups targetting police?

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ObserverArt  Mar 1, 2018 • 9:25:20am

Republicans up to more dirty tricks. They are nothing but the party of dirty tricks, lies, deception and obstruction. The whole pack of rats need to go. Of course Paul Ryan refuses to do anything.

This country needs a good House cleaning, starting with Ryan and Nunes.

NYTimes - Senate Intelligence Leaders Say House G.O.P. Leaked a Senator’s Texts

WASHINGTON — The Senate Intelligence Committee has concluded that Republicans on the House Intelligence Committee were behind the leak of private text messages between the Senate panel’s top Democrat and a Russian-connected lawyer, according to two congressional officials briefed on the matter.

Senator Richard M. Burr of North Carolina, the committee’s Republican chairman, and Senator Mark Warner of Virginia, the top Democrat, were so perturbed by the leak that they demanded a rare meeting with Speaker Paul D. Ryan last month to inform him of their findings. They used the meeting with Mr. Ryan to raise broader concerns about the direction of the House Intelligence Committee under its chairman, Representative Devin Nunes of California, the officials said.

To the senators, who are overseeing what is effectively the last bipartisan investigation on Capitol Hill into Russia’s interference in the 2016 election, the leak was a serious breach of protocol and a partisan attack by one intelligence committee against the other.

The text messages were leaked just days after the same House Republicans had taken the extraordinary step of publicly releasing, over the objections of the F.B.I., a widely disputed memorandum based on sensitive government secrets. Taken together, the actions suggested a pattern of partisanship and unilateral action by the once-bipartisan House panel.

Fox News published the text messages, which were sent via a secure messaging application, in early February. President Trump and other Republicans loyal to him quickly jumped on the report to try to discredit Mr. Warner, suggesting that the senator was acting surreptitiously to try to talk with the former British spy who assembled a dossier of salacious claims about connections between Mr. Trump, his associates and Russia.

…more at link…

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Belafon  Mar 1, 2018 • 9:26:49am

re: #233 ObserverArt

I checked what was going on with the DCCC after this post a few minutes ago.

AXIOS has an article up that goes to my concern of how the two groups may be at odds. Sounds messy. Sigh.

AXIOS - The DCCC’s messaging woes

I personally agreed with the DCCC in this case. If we’re trying to win as many offices as possible, do we really want the GOP to have any simple attacks? She isn’t living in the district she’s running for.

Now, that doesn’t mean the DCCC is doing things very well.

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Ace-o-aces  Mar 1, 2018 • 9:28:13am

re: #227 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Being almost a hundred years old had nothing to do with it.

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WHY ARE PEOPLE STILL GIVING JIM BAKKER MONEY?

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rhuarc  Mar 1, 2018 • 9:29:41am

So I was watching the Joe Rogan podcast on Youtube. It was his episode from yesterday with Kyle Kulinski who is supposedly a progressive voice with a Youtube show of his own and is affiliated with TYT. Unfortunately I had to turn it off after around 43 minutes (a 3 hour conversation) because, as is becoming quite common with voices on the left, his Hillary hate seemed to be rooted in that she is a woman. Starting around the 41 minute mark he starts talking about how bad of a candidate she was going to be and lists things off that made him think that. One of the reasons was that she pandered all of the time. In his very next sentence he says the one good thing Trump could do was tell the crowd he was talking to what they wanted to hear. WTF does he think the definition of pandering is?! Jesus! Do these people not think before they speak? So annoyed.

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ObserverArt  Mar 1, 2018 • 9:29:42am

re: #240 Belafon

I personally agreed with the DCCC in this case. If we’re trying to win as many offices as possible, do we really want the GOP to have any simple attacks? She isn’t living in the district she’s running for.

Now, that doesn’t mean the DCCC is doing things very well.

I brought it up because there have been concerns with the DCCC for years. I wish there would be just one national committee for all Democratic candidates for all elections. Seems a bit foolish not to have one coordinating body in my opinion.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 1, 2018 • 9:29:59am

re: #238 gwangung

An under-reported story about police killings?

Splinter far right groups targetting police?

But Kaepernick and BLM!

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Ace-o-aces  Mar 1, 2018 • 9:30:22am

re: #216 Barefoot Grin

Trump reportedly was addicted to prescription amphetamine derivative throughout 80s.

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Much like Elvis, he probably didn’t think of himself as an addict because he had a “script”.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 1, 2018 • 9:32:23am

re: #242 rhuarc

So I was watching the Joe Rogan podcast on Youtube. It was his episode from yesterday with Kyle Kulinski who is supposedly a progressive voice with a Youtube show of his own and is affiliated with TYT. Unfortunately I had to turn it off after around 43 minutes (a 3 hour conversation) because, as is becoming quite common with voices on the left, his Hillary hate seemed to be rooted in that she is a woman. Starting around the 41 minute mark he starts talking about how bad of a candidate she was going to be and lists things off that made him think that. One of the reasons was that she pandered all of the time. In his very next sentence he says the one good thing Trump could do was tell the crowd he was talking to what they wanted to hear. WTF does he think the definition of pandering is?! Jesus! Do these people not think before they speak? So annoyed.

There definitely is unfortunately among some progressive men an underlining of sexism. As for pandering, Trump pandered more than anyone. HRC was pretty honest not just compared to Trump but Sanders too but there’s a large amount of the left that can’t see that since they love Bernie is a self described Dem socialist and can’t see his flaws.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 1, 2018 • 9:32:36am

re: #245 Ace-o-aces

Much like Elvis, he probably didn’t think of himself as an addict because he had a “script”.

Right. It helped him “focus,” not get sloppy like brother Fred.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 1, 2018 • 9:34:11am

re: #240 Belafon

In the case of TX25 the incumbent Republican doesn’t live in the district either. Julie is 2 blocks out of district but as she sez,
1. It’s not illegal in TX
2. Her kids go to school in District
3. She works in District…
Ad Nauseum

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 1, 2018 • 9:34:20am

And the DOW just dropped around 200 pts

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rhuarc  Mar 1, 2018 • 9:35:45am

re: #246 HappyWarrior

There definitely is unfortunately among some progressive men an underlining of sexism. As for pandering, Trump pandered more than anyone. HRC was pretty honest not just compared to Trump but Sanders too but there’s a large amount of the left that can’t see that since they love Bernie is a self described Dem socialist and can’t see his flaws.

One of his other reasons she was a bad candidate was because she had no message. Just another person on the left who wasn’t listening because they had their sexism ear plugs in.

I just read the entry on Wikipedia for him and he is a BernieBro and voted for Jill Stein. ‘nuff said.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 1, 2018 • 9:36:23am

re: #239 ObserverArt

Republicans up to more dirty tricks. They are nothing but the party of dirty tricks, lies, deception and obstruction. The whole pack of rats need to go. Of course Paul Ryan refuses to do anything.

This country needs a good House cleaning, starting with Ryan and Nunes.

NYTimes - Senate Intelligence Leaders Say House G.O.P. Leaked a Senator’s Texts

Trump’s corruption should be a campaign issue, because its something Democrats can directly act on if they gain control of the House.

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JordanRules  Mar 1, 2018 • 9:36:33am

re: #242 rhuarc

I wouldn’t trust the progressive part after I found out the ‘affiliated with TYT’ part.

I didn’t forget that Buddy Roemer funding Cenk.

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rhuarc  Mar 1, 2018 • 9:38:06am

re: #252 JordanRules

I wouldn’t trust the progressive part after I found out the ‘affiliated with TYT’ part.

I didn’t forget that Buddy Roemer funding Cenk.

I might have continued listening even after his blatant hypocrisy, but then I saw he was TYT affiliated and noped the fuck outta there. I don’t need to listen to that level of delusional bullshit.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 1, 2018 • 9:38:37am

re: #223 Eclectic Cyborg

Meanwhile, in San Antonio where I’m currently vacationing, it got up to 87 yesterday. That is too damn high for February.

Here in the Old West, it’s 39F now, with a predicted high of 55F and sunny. Tonight’s low is 25F and decreasing clouds (? sunny to decreasing clouds).

Snow predicted for the end of the week.

The average high and low for my village is 44F and 14F.

forecast.weather.gov
usclimatedata.com

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dangerman  Mar 1, 2018 • 9:38:57am

re: #194 sagehen

I had to pay a lot to get my hair that color; was she lucky enough to be born with it?

er, um, erm…
nope, not going there….

(alas, not quite born with it…)

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dangerman  Mar 1, 2018 • 9:40:56am

re: #196 jeffreyw

Is that pose named Crouching Tiger? Because that would be so meta.

very good

it’s called childs pose in english
i’m not gonna try for the sanskrit

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bill d. (b.d.)  Mar 1, 2018 • 9:40:59am
Ben Carson says he wants to cancel $31,000 dining room furniture order

cnn.com

“I was as surprised as anyone to find out that a $31,000 dining set had been ordered,” Carson said in the statement.

SHOCKED!!!!

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ObserverArt  Mar 1, 2018 • 9:41:10am

re: #252 JordanRules

I wouldn’t trust the progressive part after I found out the ‘affiliated with TYT’ part.

I didn’t forget that Buddy Roemer funding Cenk.

Cenk is more a problem than a benefit for Democrats Humans.

I can’t watch anything with him…my meters for both arrogance and asshole indication spike immediately and I have to shut down and tap the gauges to get the needles to return to their starting posts.

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Alephnaught  Mar 1, 2018 • 9:41:22am

Regarding the earlier comments about the UK falling over whenever there’s a bit of snow (Or, in this case, quite a lot), there’s an interesting Tweet thread offering a Canadian perspective of the issue:

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 1, 2018 • 9:42:24am

re: #237 Dave In Austin

Passing this on. Thx Art.

People….. If you have a race in your district, work it. I HATE the phones but strategy, research, and driving people to the polls seems to be a groove that’s taking form and the Olivers seem to trust me.

My strategy is to visit everyone, since I know everyone here anyway.

It seems like a losing battle considering how red this area is (gah, my whole township only cast 8 votes for Hillary Clinton), but folks do seem to be getting tired of “winning” even here. (They are really upset at trying to torpedo the NAFTA treaty, which directly affects ranch and farm income, scattering down to the businesses that supply those ranches and farms.)

Messaging is tricky though: Saying “I told you so” is not likely to win any hearts and minds here.

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ObserverArt  Mar 1, 2018 • 9:44:46am

re: #260 Anymouse 🌹

My strategy is to visit everyone, since I know everyone here anyway.

It seems like a losing battle considering how red this area is (gah, my whole township only cast 8 votes for Hillary Clinton), but folks do seem to be getting tired of “winning” even here. (They are really upset at trying to torpedo the NAFTA treaty, which directly affects ranch and farm income, scattering down to the businesses that supply those ranches and farms.)

Messaging is tricky though: Saying “I told you so” is not likely to win any hearts and minds here.

Don’t tell them. Show them facts. It keeps the snark out of it…as hard as it is.

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JordanRules  Mar 1, 2018 • 9:45:57am

re: #258 ObserverArt

Same here! I go from 0 to 100 real quick when I hear him. And I know that some fuckery is afoot aimed right at Dems.

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dangerman  Mar 1, 2018 • 9:46:47am

re: #215 Eclectic Cyborg

Fuck Walmart.

My friend works at a Neighborhkod Market and his manager is refusing to work with him to scale back his hours because because if he goes too high he loses his SS disability benefits.

The manager told him by even bringing up this discussion he’d effectively put in his two weeks (which I think is total bullshit) and be prepared to be scheduled accordingly.

After mulling it over for a day or two, my friend formally put his two weeks in. I told him he should fight them over this as I believe there could be a legal violation involved.

He says he’ll look into it once he gets another job lined up.

my experience is never say why
why you need to scale back, or take this time off, or schedule your vacation for x, or change your shift hours, or whatever you are asking for
your personal reasons are not relevant
sure sometimes it can sway a particular manager
you ask, they approve (or dont)
do not let them make staffing decisions based on their approval (or not) of your personal life/needs

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Stanley Sea  Mar 1, 2018 • 9:47:56am

Tariff time!

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Citizen K  Mar 1, 2018 • 9:48:34am

Gee. I wonder fucking why.

If anyone has the Alan Rickman table-flip gif at this point, it’d be much appreciated.

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TedStriker  Mar 1, 2018 • 9:50:40am

re: #265 Citizen K

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Gee. I wonder fucking why.

If anyone has the Alan Rickman table-flip gif at this point, it’d be much appreciated.

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ObserverArt  Mar 1, 2018 • 9:51:02am

Joe Manchin - Political High-Wire Artist.

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dangerman  Mar 1, 2018 • 9:53:54am

re: #265 Citizen K

“Because of President Obama, people were afraid… Nobody in West Virginia believes Donald Trump is going to take their 2A rights away, nobody.”

Gee. I wonder fucking why.

If anyone has the Alan Rickman table-flip gif at this point, it’d be much appreciated.

we’re not worried because no one believes anything trump says

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Dr. Matt  Mar 1, 2018 • 9:54:16am

re: #265 Citizen K

Manchin says his constituents were afraid that Obama was going to take their rights away, but don’t have same worries about Trump 🤔

“Because of President Obama, people were afraid… Nobody in West Virginia believes Donald Trump is going to take their 2A rights away, nobody.” pic.twitter.com

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) March 1, 2018

Hence why GOP voters are correctly labeled “low-information voters”.

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Citizen K  Mar 1, 2018 • 9:55:05am

re: #266 TedStriker

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Gracias.

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JordanRules  Mar 1, 2018 • 9:55:53am

re: #269 Dr. Matt

Aka racist.

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MsJ  Mar 1, 2018 • 9:57:54am

re: #249 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

And the DOW just dropped around 200 pts

Super. Just freaking fabulous.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 1, 2018 • 9:59:50am

re: #272 MsJ

Super. Just freaking fabulous.

It’s rebounded slightly but still fluctuating. Currently down 160.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:01:06am

A quick post to lighten things for a moment:

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:01:21am

re: #273 Eclectic Cyborg

And now it just dropped to -189.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:01:54am

re: #257 bill d. (b.d.)

cnn.com

SHOCKED!!!!

What? Ben Carson is going with “I don’t know how that order got put in that I had to approve for my own office?”

That’s not even a bad lie. That’s disconnected from reality.

Perhaps he can channel Ellen G. White next and explain this is really a sign of the End Times. Make Jim Bakker’s survivalist buckets into a pyramid or something.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:03:24am

Schlapp triples down.

Schlapp Blasts Steele: ‘Sub-Par’ Ex-RNC Chair Refusing Apology for Racial Comments Shows ‘Lack of Grace’

Shitbag Schlapp claims Steele was “subpar” after accomplishing the following during Steele’s tenure…..

The RNC broke fundraising records by raising over $198 million during the 2010 Congressional cycle; in November 2010, Republicans won 63 House seats (the biggest pickup since 1938) and retook control of the House. The 2010 midterm elections were successful for Steele and the Republicans, as they also took back six Senate seats, seven governorships, and the greatest share of state legislative seats since 1928 (over 600 seats).
en.wikipedia.org

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:04:23am

re: #273 Eclectic Cyborg

It’s rebounded slightly but still fluctuating. Currently down 160.

It was up nearly 40 before the announcement, thus the ~200 pt drop

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JordanRules  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:04:33am

Ahhh stability…just what the market loves! ///

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:05:44am

OK, color me shocked
Kroger’s sells freakin’ guns?

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retired cynic  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:05:56am

re: #183 sagehen

Scotch tape.

pwned

Butterscotch.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:06:04am

re: #279 JordanRules

Ahhh stability…just what the market loves! ///

Trump going to take credit for the fabulous response from Wall Street? /s

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Interesting Times  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:07:11am

Still can’t get over how on-point these kids are when it comes to responding to rightwing fuckery:

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HappyWarrior  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:07:25am

re: #265 Citizen K

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Gee. I wonder fucking why.

If anyone has the Alan Rickman table-flip gif at this point, it’d be much appreciated.

Joe, ever wonder why that is? I mean I know they’re your constituents but JFC dude.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:07:26am

Dow down almost 360 now.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:08:07am
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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:08:09am
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JordanRules  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:08:30am

re: #280 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Wow. Had no idea. I’ve been to quite a few Kroger’s in my day too.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:09:32am

re: #287 Anymouse 🌹

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Something stinks here I agree.

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nines09  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:09:59am

re: #288 JordanRules

Wow. Had no idea. I’ve been to quite a few Kroger’s in my day too.

How else you going to fire up the BBQ?

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:10:46am

re: #288 JordanRules

Wow. Had no idea. I’ve been to quite a few Kroger’s in my day too.

I think I saw that they are separate stores owned by the Kroger’s corp. Otherwise, can I check out in the self-checkout lane if I have 14 items or fewer?

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Dr. Matt  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:11:02am

re: #280 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

OK, color me shocked
Kroger’s sells freakin’ guns?

Kroger owns Meyer’s. Meyer’s sells firearms.

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JordanRules  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:11:37am

re: #292 Dr. Matt

Oh that’s right!

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Interesting Times  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:13:10am

re: #287 Anymouse 🌹

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This stinks like a flaming dumpster in the middle of the afternoon sun. Until I see convincing and independent evidence to the contrary, I’m going to believe this is nothing but Ryan Zinke/Cheeto Benito ratfuckery. Hope the lawyers who represent March For Our Lives are on this.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:13:43am

re: #289 HappyWarrior

Something stinks here I agree.

My wife and I were just discussing this, with me taking the line “time for some social disobedience” because who is going to stop a quarter-million protestors.

She points out they could use the military, which I countered with there are a whole bunch of people in the military who would likely object (with friends and family in such a protest).

Moreover, you probably couldn’t get the military into Washington fast enough to do it, and it seems that would likely be an argument to make in a courts-martial for refusing a lawful order (the order was not lawful to shut down citizens’ I Amendment rights).

Moreover, I imagine that if this starts looking too bad for the GOP, conservatives will do what’s necessary to maintain or gain power: a) Ryan Zinke becomes a sacrificial lamb, b) they go full-on authoritarian.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:15:58am

re: #290 nines09

How else you going to fire up the BBQ?

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dangerman  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:16:41am

re: #276 Anymouse 🌹

What? Ben Carson is going with “I don’t know how that order got put in that I had to approve for my own office?”

That’s not even a bad lie. That’s disconnected from reality.

Perhaps he can channel Ellen G. White next and explain this is really a sign of the End Times. Make Jim Bakker’s survivalist buckets into a pyramid or something.

These people are shameless

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Dave In Austin  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:16:45am
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ipsos  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:16:58am

re: #265 Citizen K

And even with THAT, I’d still rather have Joe Manchin in the Senate from WV than Jim Justice or whatever other Republican is going after the seat. Because as problematic as Manchin is, he is still a reliable yes vote for the vast majority of Democratic priorities, especially in the courts. And we can’t lose any yes vote in the Senate right now.

(Crap. My pragmatism is showing again, isn’t it?)

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:17:03am

Yesterday the temperature was 60. Today snow is coming down like an avalanche of white shit.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:24:54am

re: #299 ipsos

And even with THAT, I’d still rather have Joe Manchin in the Senate from WV than Jim Justice or whatever other Republican is going after the seat. Because as problematic as Manchin is, he is still a reliable yes vote for the vast majority of Democratic priorities, especially in the courts. And we can’t lose any yes vote in the Senate right now.

(Crap. My pragmatism is showing again, isn’t it?)

I would too. My exasperation is more with his constituents who were convinced Obama was out for their guns but still support Trump even though he threatened to take guns without due process. Too many gun owners have been hoodwinked by scam artists.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:25:23am

re: #297 dangerman

These people are shameless

I have no idea who wanted new furniture for my office!!

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Dave In Austin  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:26:15am
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dangerman  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:27:13am

re: #302 bill d. (b.d.)

I have no idea who wanted new furniture for my office!!

As i understand it that staffer is suing HUD for the demotion
That’ll be interesting

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:28:27am
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MsJ  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:28:44am

re: #288 JordanRules

Wow. Had no idea. I’ve been to quite a few Kroger’s in my day too.

Not at Krogers itself, but at its “sister” stores Fred Mayer out west.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:28:51am

re: #298 Dave In Austin

I’ve long maintained that if the Democrats can successfully turn TX blue, the GOP is basically finished at the national level.

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Citizen K  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:28:52am

re: #299 ipsos

And even with THAT, I’d still rather have Joe Manchin in the Senate from WV than Jim Justice or whatever other Republican is going after the seat. Because as problematic as Manchin is, he is still a reliable yes vote for the vast majority of Democratic priorities, especially in the courts. And we can’t lose any yes vote in the Senate right now.

(Crap. My pragmatism is showing again, isn’t it?)

This is true still. I’d rather have Manchin in there than any WV Republican. That still doesn’t make it exhausting and depressive when he goes out of his way to butter Trump up like this.

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rhuarc  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:29:09am

re: #303 Dave In Austin

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Been there for about 13 years myself. :) There’s a reason I don’t socialize with people unless it involves one of the dog sports I participate in.

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Ace-o-aces  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:30:41am
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gwangung  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:30:55am

re: #305 Anymouse 🌹

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Somebody mentioned that Parkland was in a relatively higher Jewish population for Florida. Which makes the swastikas carved into the weaponry a bit more meaningful.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:32:32am

re: #305 Anymouse 🌹

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Because you want to be lectured about knowing Jesus and God after your friends died by that asshole. What a fucking condescending douche.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:32:35am

re: #307 Dr Lizardo

I’ve long maintained that if the Democrats can successfully turn TX blue, the GOP is basically finished at the national level.

Nationally, Texas is the state with the most electoral votes in the GOP column.

Texas’s problem is not it’s a red state, it’s a non-voting state. Unlike the 80%+ turnout you get in elections here, Texas is lucky to crack 20%. There are a lot of disinterested people (or blocked from voting people) in Texas. Crack that untapped voter base by giving them a reason to vote for the Dems, it not only finishes the GOP nationally, it might flip the state blue statewide as well.

They have to be getting tired of things like Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick’s scandals and such. Wendy Davis actually pulled close to a victory in the governor’s race, and it wasn’t too long ago there was a Democratic governor (Ann Richards).

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HappyWarrior  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:33:08am

re: #307 Dr Lizardo

I’ve long maintained that if the Democrats can successfully turn TX blue, the GOP is basically finished at the national level.

It would be a lot for them to overcome for sure.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:33:42am

re: #310 Ace-o-aces

But it’s fine for GOP politicians to regulate uteri without understanding how they work.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:34:57am

re: #311 gwangung

Somebody mentioned that Parkland was in a relatively higher Jewish population for Florida. Which makes the swastikas carved into the weaponry a bit more meaningful.

I didn’t know that but that certainly does and Cruz was known to be a bigot aside from that.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:35:43am

re: #314 HappyWarrior

It would be a lot for them to overcome for sure.

My line of thought on that is that the GOP would basically become a regional party, concentrated in the rest of the Deep South (minus TX and possibly FL) and the inter-mountain Western US.

They would definitely become a white ethno-nationalist party (they’re already most of the way to that point as it is).

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HappyWarrior  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:36:23am

re: #310 Ace-o-aces

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You talk about a lot of things you don’t know about Tomi. Doesn’t stop you.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:37:51am

re: #315 Anymouse 🌹

But it’s fine for GOP politicians to regulate uteri without understanding how they work.

Or anything really. Gun pedantry is obnoxious crap and distracts from the conversation. The inventor of the AR intended it to be the American soldier’s counter to the Soviet AK-47.

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Alephnaught  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:38:05am

One thing about this weather in Glasgow: I’m seeing one thing I haven’t seen for a long time- actual proper icicles!

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HappyWarrior  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:38:19am

re: #317 Dr Lizardo

My line of thought on that is that the GOP would basically become a regional party, concentrated in the rest of the Deep South (minus TX and possibly FL) and the inter-mountain Western US.

They would definitely become a white ethno-nationalist party (they’re already most of the way to that point as it is).

Yep.

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Mike Lamb  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:38:34am

re: #310 Ace-o-aces

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Should we make a list of things that the GOP doesn’t understand that they are trying to take away. Maybe start with birth control (hint: it’s not an abortifacient)? Or how employer provided health coverage is paid for (hint: you don’t pay for my health care and it’s not “free” from my employer”)?

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freetoken  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:38:58am

re: #317 Dr Lizardo

In the US, parties morph to fill the roles needed.

We are by design a government built around the idea of elections on the one hand, and institutional stability on the other.

For a lot of probably intractably interwoven reasons, this has meant, for about 200 years, a two party system.

Even though our Constitution does not call for a two party system, that is how things have worked.

Trump hopefully is the last straw in the religious right takeover of one party. If there is a big backlash in this fall’s election, the GOP will need to move away from the religious-right/xenophobic direction it has been taking the past 40 years, and truly (not tokenly) reach out to brown people.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:39:44am

Idaho state senator Dan Foreman (R-Viola) is being looked into for ethics violations. He threatened liberal constituents who wanted to meet with him in his office with arrest and told them to never come back, and verbally assaulted a liberal constituent in public (captured on a police body cam when the police officer ran up to the senator to intervene and run off the senator, who left shouting epithets at the constituent).

Goes to Utah Outcasts, (8:16, NSFW for adult speech and for epithets from the senator)

Idaho State Senator Dan Foreman is a Jerk to His Constituents

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:40:21am

re: #277 Dr. Matt

Schlapp triples down.

Schlapp Blasts Steele: ‘Sub-Par’ Ex-RNC Chair Refusing Apology for Racial Comments Shows ‘Lack of Grace’

Shitbag Schlapp claims Steele was “subpar” after accomplishing the following during Steele’s tenure…..

Doncha know that Blacks are always subpar. It’s part of that whole White Supremacy schtick. To be honest, Steele shouldn’t be too shocked that his party is full of racists. It’s something we all know.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:40:44am

To me the GOP is growing where a lot of the country is shrinking. Not merely geographically but human demographics too. Meanwhile the Dems are gaining. The trick getting out the vote tho.

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dangerman  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:41:00am

re: #305 Anymouse 🌹

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The Jews and Muslims too?

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HappyWarrior  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:41:34am

re: #327 dangerman

The Jews and Muslims too?

Especially them.

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dangerman  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:42:24am

re: #307 Dr Lizardo

I’ve long maintained that if the Democrats can successfully turn TX blue, the GOP is basically finished at the national level.

True
And when it goes it won’t be only texas

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Renaissance_Man  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:42:28am

re: #317 Dr Lizardo

My line of thought on that is that the GOP would basically become a regional party, concentrated in the rest of the Deep South (minus TX and possibly FL) and the inter-mountain Western US.

They would definitely become a white ethno-nationalist party (they’re already most of the way to that point as it is).

They’re already a white ethno-nationalist party.

More likely, if Texas began to reliably vote and turn blue, they would change the rules to have proportional allotment of votes by district or by county or however they can do it so that Texas still puts its votes in the R column. And if they can’t change the rules so that they get all of the votes from Texas, then change them so that they keep some of the votes through allotment of votes by district, and push for rules changes in blue states like CA to have those states apportion votes as well instead of being winner take all. And then work to suppress the votes of undesirables.

Failing that, Republicans and the US media would support becoming a sham democracy like Russia where elections are for show. It would be a stepping stone to becoming a secular empire like China is becoming.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:42:33am

I wonder…If you surveyed every person over 18 in this country with regards to their political leanings…what would the Republican vs Democratic breakdown look like?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:42:58am
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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:43:04am

re: #326 HappyWarrior

When Obama won the second term, we dared think demographics would spare us. They didn’t. Yes, the vote, and getting back to a relatively unmolested electoral process, without foreign influence.

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dangerman  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:44:15am

re: #310 Ace-o-aces

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Tomi,
If we use your words does it kill any different?

See the problem?

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dangerman  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:45:10am

re: #313 Anymouse 🌹

++++

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:45:41am

re: #299 ipsos

And even with THAT, I’d still rather have Joe Manchin in the Senate from WV than Jim Justice or whatever other Republican is going after the seat. Because as problematic as Manchin is, he is still a reliable yes vote for the vast majority of Democratic priorities, especially in the courts. And we can’t lose any yes vote in the Senate right now.

(Crap. My pragmatism is showing again, isn’t it?)

I agree with you 100%. It’s the purity ponies that lead to Republican wins. We have to field and support candidates that represent their district — as long as they aren’t like the Nazi who is going to be the Republican candidate for Congress in an Illinois district this year. Or like the LaRouchies who won nominations for certain positions in Illinois back in the 1980’s. There are certain positions that should forfeit support — but being a “corporatist” who favors immigrant rights and abortion rights isn’t one of them. If Democrats were in a comfortable and guaranteed majority, you can be more picky.

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dangerman  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:45:45am

re: #315 Anymouse 🌹

But it’s fine for GOP politicians to regulate uteri without understanding how they work.

And to call a blastocyst a child

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Jay C  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:45:58am

re: #319 HappyWarrior

Or anything really. Gun pedantry is obnoxious crap and distracts from the conversation. The inventor of the AR intended it to be the American soldier’s counter to the Soviet AK-47.

Of course gun pedantry distracts from the conversation: that’s what it’s meant to do. Fortunately, more and more folks aren’t falling for the BS…

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:46:07am

re: #323 freetoken

Or considering how much they are ignoring potential constitutional violations by Mr. Trump and throwing as much chaff as possible at the investigation into Russian electoral meddling, they might just go all the way and go for an authoritarian state.

Consider the continued calls to investigate or arrest the opposition leader of the last election, Hillary Clinton. Liberals have been demonised as un-American all my life.

It does instill some concern in me that they might start to “round up the opposition party” and drive them from office, which then leaves me a real problem. I’m all alone out here.

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freetoken  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:46:12am

re: #333 Unshaken Defiance

There appears to be a lot of young people who have bought into hate-right ideas.

Even though “polls” might say that young people are much more open minded than their elders, the young people don’t vote in large enough numbers to offset the old folk.

But the younger folk who have bought into various atavistic ideas are very energized to vote.

This is the real problem I see for the Democratic party. No matter how many young people there are that are quite fine with what we think of as progressive ideals, if they don’t bother to vote then frankly they don’t count.

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CongoJack  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:46:46am

re: #334 dangerman

Tomi,
If we use your words does it kill any different?

See the problem?

YouTube

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freetoken  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:46:51am

I have several young-ish folk on my Facebook wall, for example, who are full into the gun fetish.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:47:03am

Dow has dropped over 400 now.

#somuchwinning

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Citizen K  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:51:53am

re: #326 HappyWarrior

To me the GOP is growing where a lot of the country is shrinking. Not merely geographically but human demographics too. Meanwhile the Dems are gaining. The trick getting out the vote tho.

re: #333 Unshaken Defiance

When Obama won the second term, we dared think demographics would spare us. They didn’t. Yes, the vote, and getting back to a relatively unmolested electoral process, without foreign influence.

Demographics will not save us. Not when the GOP has power nationwide to ensure that those increasing demographic margins will be wholly locked out of the process, either by de jure or de facto disenfranchisement. We’re getting some victories on that end, thankfully, but it still may keep us from fixing the problem in any reasonable way without hoping to god that the court system won’t destroy us for good thanks to Gorsuch the pretender.

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lawhawk  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:53:06am

Nail, hammer, head.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:53:13am

Probably been posted, but it’s the best thing.

Pilot Bae

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:53:13am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:54:05am

re: #317 Dr Lizardo

My line of thought on that is that the GOP would basically become a regional party, concentrated in the rest of the Deep South (minus TX and possibly FL) and the inter-mountain Western US.

They would definitely become a white ethno-nationalist party (they’re already most of the way to that point as it is).

They currently are a sort of loose union between the ethno-nationalists and the industrialist establishment wing: they made a pact with each other to get DT elected, and now it turns out he is screwing them both.

Because that is what he does: makes deals, screws his partners and walks away.

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Citizen K  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:54:53am

re: #340 freetoken

There appears to be a lot of young people who have bought into hate-right ideas.

Even though “polls” might say that young people are much more open minded than their elders, the young people don’t vote in large enough numbers to offset the old folk.

But the younger folk who have bought into various atavistic ideas are very energized to vote.

This is the real problem I see for the Democratic party. No matter how many young people there are that are quite fine with what we think of as progressive ideals, if they don’t bother to vote then frankly they don’t count.

re: #342 freetoken

I have several young-ish folk on my Facebook wall, for example, who are full into the gun fetish.

Sigh. Yes, this too. The demographics might be trending toward the good, but that’s almost exclusively due to it becoming less white, and you know the Kobaches in the country are all set to ensure that segment of the generation will never get the vote they deserve. Meanwhile, the younger white population seems just as racist as the previous and even more energized and radicalized thanks to social media. They may very well be the new owners of this fucking country at this rate, because of course they would be.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:55:19am

Gonna call it a day. Good night, Lizards.

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ObserverArt  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:55:25am

re: #288 JordanRules

Wow. Had no idea. I’ve been to quite a few Kroger’s in my day too.

Those must be the Kroger Marketplace stores. We have a few of them in the Columbus area, though I have never visited one. I use a newer Kroger in our downtown area that is a big store but not one of the ones that has everything.

They claim to be in competition with Target and WalMart. Being Kroger is from Cincinnati and has offices in Columbus too, I guess we have them for test purposes.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:56:17am

re: #344 Citizen K

Demographics will not save us. Not when the GOP has power nationwide to ensure that those increasing demographic margins will be wholly locked out of the process, either by de jure or de facto disenfranchisement. We’re getting some victories on that end, thankfully, but it still may keep us from fixing the problem in any reasonable way without hoping to god that the court system won’t destroy us for good thanks to Gorsuch the pretender.

Yet look at all the seats which have flipped from GOP to Dem control since Trump was elected, including an Alabama US Senate seat. Two transgender women elected (one to the Virginia House of Delegates, one to the Erie School Board).

And Democratic voters, normally not motivated by fear as conservative are, are this time: Democracy is at stake.

There will always be purity ponies that hold their nose, but the vast majority of “doesn’t affect me” voters are going to have to choose up sides. The message needs to be tailored to them.

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dangerman  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:56:55am

re: #345 lawhawk

The problem is that you think people not knowing what AR stands for is a problem. But the real problem is that a 19 yo purchased an AR 15 legally, and then proceeded to kill my friends and classmates. Once again, please stfu tomi.

Nail, hammer, head.

i bow in the shadow of greatness

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 1, 2018 • 10:59:02am

re: #341 CongoJack

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Video

son is watching that film as we speak

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 1, 2018 • 11:01:44am

re: #348 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They currently are a sort of loose union between the ethno-nationalists and the industrialist establishment wing: they made a pact with each other to get DT elected, and now it turns out he is screwing them both.

Because that is what he does: makes deals, screws his partners and walks away.

You also have the theocratic wing. The industrialist wing is pro-immigration, anti-tariff, and very libertarian. Clearly the Koch brothers are not fans of certain Trump policies.

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Belafon  Mar 1, 2018 • 11:01:58am

re: #353 dangerman

i bow in the shadow of greatness

She, and the others, refuse to get drawn into the semantic games that we’ve all fallen into at times. There’s almost always an option c, in this case bringing the topic back to death.

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MsJ  Mar 1, 2018 • 11:03:09am

Things are going well, I see. Tariffs are popular.

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ObserverArt  Mar 1, 2018 • 11:03:34am

re: #295 Anymouse 🌹

My wife and I were just discussing this, with me taking the line “time for some social disobedience” because who is going to stop a quarter-million protestors.

She points out they could use the military, which I countered with there are a whole bunch of people in the military who would likely object (with friends and family in such a protest).

Moreover, you probably couldn’t get the military into Washington fast enough to do it, and it seems that would likely be an argument to make in a courts-martial for refusing a lawful order (the order was not lawful to shut down citizens’ I Amendment rights).

Moreover, I imagine that if this starts looking too bad for the GOP, conservatives will do what’s necessary to maintain or gain power: a) Ryan Zinke becomes a sacrificial lamb, b) they go full-on authoritarian.

With a majority of this country supporting gun control and these student movements coming down hard on them would be a huge mistake on the part of the Republican majority government, the Trump White House and the NRA.

But that doesn’t mean they won’t try it.

I hate to say it, but this country is heading for a big crash between the people and the politicians. It has been building and building. It is going to come to head sometime. This may be the time. I just hope we can all keep our heads, but sometimes anger and frustration gets to be too much.

We have BLM, Immigrants, Guns, Healthcare, Labor all in turmoil. It is not a good time in America socially and economically.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 1, 2018 • 11:03:52am

Dow down 500 plus now.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 1, 2018 • 11:05:16am

re: #357 MsJ

Things are going well, I see. Tariffs are popular.

Just wait until the Asian market opens tomorrow.

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lawhawk  Mar 1, 2018 • 11:05:20am

So, this is the same loon who claimed Obama was spying on her and that claimed text disappeared as she was typing (but later identified as a stuck delete key) is now claiming that her hard drive was swapped out.

Hoft picks it up uncritically, of course.

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ObserverArt  Mar 1, 2018 • 11:06:02am

re: #298 Dave In Austin

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Go Julie Go!

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 1, 2018 • 11:06:38am

re: #345 lawhawk

Tomi Lahren

@TomiLahren
Hey Lefties, “AR” does NOT stand for “assault rifle.” It stands for “ArmaLite rifle.” You want to take our guns but you don’t know jack about guns. See the problem?
6:24 PM - Feb 28, 2018
9,481 9,481 Replies 5,979 5,979 Retweets 22,090 22,090 likes

Someone who is on twitter should inform Terrible Liar that the AR 15 was designed as a weapon of war and used in Vietnam in the early days, before it was modified into the M16.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 1, 2018 • 11:07:01am

re: #356 Belafon

She, and the others, refuse to get drawn into the semantic games that we’ve all fallen into at times. There’s almost always an option c, in this case bringing the topic back to death.

The pedantic argument is really a Gish Gallop. The trick with Gish Gallops is to sweep aside the tsunami of unsupported assertions, pedantry, lies, and bring it right back to the real issue.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 1, 2018 • 11:07:15am

re: #361 lawhawk

What story won’t tell you is that they switched it with a block of cheese and waited to see how long until she noticed.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 1, 2018 • 11:08:05am

-500

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HappyWarrior  Mar 1, 2018 • 11:09:05am

re: #361 lawhawk

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So, this is the same loon who claimed Obama was spying on her and that claimed text disappeared as she was typing (but later identified as a stuck delete key) is now claiming that her hard drive was swapped out.

Hoft picks it up uncritically, of course.

Anyone can make an explosive accusation. I can accuse Hoft of being a honest person but I can’t because like Atkinson, it’s not credible.

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MsJ  Mar 1, 2018 • 11:09:38am

Dow -513 and counting.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 1, 2018 • 11:09:42am

re: #356 Belafon

She, and the others, refuse to get drawn into the semantic games that we’ve all fallen into at times. There’s almost always an option c, in this case bringing the topic back to death.

They’re good kids. Smart.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mar 1, 2018 • 11:10:01am

All Indexes down and counting. Yay Tariffs!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 1, 2018 • 11:10:11am

Rep. Thomas Massie (R-KY 4th)

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lawhawk  Mar 1, 2018 • 11:11:28am

re: #363 Hecuba’s daughter

There are countless people who’ve dragged her just for that.

AR-15 was the designator for the rifle (assault rifle) requested to replace the older service model. The purpose of the gun was to kill the maximium number of people in as short a time period as possible and at a distance usually seen in combat situations. Fired rounds were meant to do significant damage to a human.

The entire exercise was meant to create a weapon to kill people. Period.

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Jay C  Mar 1, 2018 • 11:12:03am

re: #366 Stanley Sea

-500

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Particularly since this latest proposal is just another “Trump Tariff” - tough-talk about “unfair” for the rubes, but little real positive effects for the economy as a whole. Or just for that part of it which has paid off enough politicians to buy a break….

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teleskiguy  Mar 1, 2018 • 11:13:40am
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mar 1, 2018 • 11:14:48am

down 567 and falling.

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MsJ  Mar 1, 2018 • 11:15:56am

re: #368 MsJ

Dow -513 and counting.

Ouch. -568 now.

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ObserverArt  Mar 1, 2018 • 11:16:13am

re: #332 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Thanks for the reminders. I’m looking forward to the launch.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 1, 2018 • 11:17:46am

re: #366 Stanley Sea

-500

Approaching -600.

google.com (DJIA)

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JordanRules  Mar 1, 2018 • 11:17:51am
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sagehen  Mar 1, 2018 • 11:18:31am

re: #299 ipsos

And even with THAT, I’d still rather have Joe Manchin in the Senate from WV than Jim Justice or whatever other Republican is going after the seat. Because as problematic as Manchin is, he is still a reliable yes vote for the vast majority of Democratic priorities, especially in the courts. And we can’t lose any yes vote in the Senate right now.

(Crap. My pragmatism is showing again, isn’t it?)

Even if he didn’t reliably vote yes on most Democratic priorities… he’s still definitely a yes vote for a D majority leader, and D committee chairs. Sometimes that the best you can get from a red state D.

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thecommodore  Mar 1, 2018 • 11:18:34am
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 1, 2018 • 11:19:13am

re: #366 Stanley Sea

-500

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I knew this would happen. The WTO is also going to spank us hard over it.

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thecommodore  Mar 1, 2018 • 11:19:51am

re: #299 ipsos

And even with THAT, I’d still rather have Joe Manchin in the Senate from WV than Jim Justice or whatever other Republican is going after the seat. Because as problematic as Manchin is, he is still a reliable yes vote for the vast majority of Democratic priorities, especially in the courts. And we can’t lose any yes vote in the Senate right now.

(Crap. My pragmatism is showing again, isn’t it?)

I wish more lefties were this pragmatic.

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ObserverArt  Mar 1, 2018 • 11:20:03am

re: #342 freetoken

I have several young-ish folk on my Facebook wall, for example, who are full into the gun fetish.

Hopefully your Facebook wall is not a real reflection of what is going on.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 1, 2018 • 11:21:02am
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ObserverArt  Mar 1, 2018 • 11:23:27am

re: #346 Stanley Sea

Probably been posted, but it’s the best thing.

Pilot Bae

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Awwww. That was all kinds of cute.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Mar 1, 2018 • 11:23:57am
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Jay C  Mar 1, 2018 • 11:24:53am

Gotta hit the road soon, so BBIAB
I’ll be listening to Bloomberg Radio on the way- should be interesting to hear what people who know what they’re talking about think…

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Mike Lamb  Mar 1, 2018 • 11:25:53am

re: #371 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Rep. Thomas Massie (R-KY 4th)

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Normal People: “It’s crazy that you have to be 21 to purchase a hand gun, but can purchase an AR-15 at age 18.”

Massie: “That is crazy. Better lower that limit on handguns then…”

Obi Wan: “I sensed a disturbance in the Force. As if there were 300 million simultaneous face palms…”

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Mike Lamb  Mar 1, 2018 • 11:27:11am

re: #381 thecommodore

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New Coke..tastes like shit, but it smells terrific!

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ObserverArt  Mar 1, 2018 • 11:29:46am

re: #382 goddamnedfrank

I knew this would happen. The WTO is also going to spank us hard over it.

Great businessman isn’t he? The best. Real smart with one of the best brains he was told too.

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sagehen  Mar 1, 2018 • 11:30:58am

re: #311 gwangung

Somebody mentioned that Parkland was in a relatively higher Jewish population for Florida. Which makes the swastikas carved into the weaponry a bit more meaningful.

Also makes Chaffetz’ “they need Jesus” extra offensive.

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teleskiguy  Mar 1, 2018 • 11:33:02am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 1, 2018 • 11:35:56am

I’m calling it now. DOW closes -500 (± 25) for the day.
Tomorrow, after Asian, European market reactions, drops another ~1K

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 1, 2018 • 11:37:32am

re: #347 Anymouse 🌹

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But he’s working for nothing!

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KGxvi  Mar 1, 2018 • 11:37:33am

re: #391 ObserverArt

Great businessman isn’t he? The best. Real smart with one of the best brains he was told too.

Sure, if it was 1875…

Honest question, when have tariffs not eventually lead to a war, either trade or shooting?

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Kragar  Mar 1, 2018 • 11:38:00am
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gocart mozart  Mar 1, 2018 • 11:38:46am

re: #361 lawhawk

Do you think they are dumb enough to fall for it?

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KGxvi  Mar 1, 2018 • 11:41:22am

re: #397 Kragar

Ever watch Live PD? A (lawyer) friend watches it all the time and has gotten me to watch it with her. It is mostly a string of pretext stops leading to vehicle searches because “I smelled weed/alcohol.” Almost every time it is a person of color that get stopped.

Can’t imagine gun raids going any different.

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Kragar  Mar 1, 2018 • 11:44:02am
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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 1, 2018 • 11:48:02am

Gold has been going down for three days … strange to see gold and stocks going down at the same time.

kitco.com

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plansbandc  Mar 1, 2018 • 11:48:19am

re: #346 Stanley Sea

May collapse from the overwhelming cuteness…

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mmmirele  Mar 1, 2018 • 11:49:33am

I saw that statement Chaffetz made about people needing God and Jesus Christ. I’d like to inform the idiot ex-representative of Utah Valley, Utah (90 percent Mormon) that many Evangelicals think he and all Mormons are cultists who do not worship the same God and Jesus as the Evangelicals. I wish I was lying, but I’m not.

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Kragar  Mar 1, 2018 • 11:49:36am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 1, 2018 • 11:51:20am

Trump, my 401K is tired of all your bullshit winning.

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KGxvi  Mar 1, 2018 • 11:52:39am

re: #403 mmmirele

I saw that statement Chaffetz made about people needing God and Jesus Christ. I’d like to inform the idiot ex-representative of Utah Valley, Utah (90 percent Mormon) that many Evangelicals think he and all Mormons are cultists who do not worship the same God and Jesus as the Evangelicals. I wish I was lying, but I’m not.

Yeah, because nobody has ever killed people in the name of God and/or Jesus…

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 1, 2018 • 11:52:40am

re: #385 The Vicious Babushka

We were originally projected to get snow today but instead there’s sun, 40 degrees, and no precipitation right now.

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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 1, 2018 • 11:54:21am

re: #401 Anymouse

Gold has been going down for three days … strange to see gold and stocks going down at the same time.

kitco.com

The dollar is up.

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mmmirele  Mar 1, 2018 • 11:54:27am

re: #317 Dr Lizardo

My line of thought on that is that the GOP would basically become a regional party, concentrated in the rest of the Deep South (minus TX and possibly FL) and the inter-mountain Western US.

They would definitely become a white ethno-nationalist party (they’re already most of the way to that point as it is).

If the GOP were to go completely Evangelical and hard core, I could see the Intermountain West Mormons learning quickly they’re not welcome. Because, seriously, Evangelicals consider Mormons unsaved cultists. I don’t understand why Mormons join up with a group that would have no respect for their religious beliefs and see Mormons as ripe for conversion.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 1, 2018 • 11:56:00am

re: #405 Eclectic Cyborg

Trump, my 401K is tired of all your bullshit winning.

Fortunately I am too poor to have things like “retirement accounts.”

My wife has an IRA, which she had to pry away from Hewlett-Packard after the company they hired to run Digital’s retirement programme it lost most of the money in it. She lost $210,000.

She managed to get away with $30,000, which we put into our local agricultural bank a couple years ago. It has grown to $33,000.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 1, 2018 • 11:56:38am

re: #409 mmmirele

If the GOP were to go completely Evangelical and hard core, I could see the Intermountain West Mormons learning quickly they’re not welcome. Because, seriously, Evangelicals consider Mormons unsaved cultists. I don’t understand why Mormons join up with a group that would have no respect for their religious beliefs and see Mormons as ripe for conversion.

See also Roman Catholics.

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gwangung  Mar 1, 2018 • 11:57:58am
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teleskiguy  Mar 1, 2018 • 11:58:13am

Rope drop at Mineral Basin in Snowbird, Utah. People getting the powder like a pack of rabid hyenas.

Instagram

These are the type of avalanches we can’t mitigate.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 1, 2018 • 11:58:35am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 1, 2018 • 11:59:49am
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mmmirele  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:01:01pm

re: #392 sagehen

Also makes Chaffetz’ “they need Jesus” extra offensive.

Back when I lived in Utah in the 1990s, there were still some old folk who still referred to anyone who wasn’t Mormon (including Jews) as “Gentiles.” I’m hoping with the Internet that has faded away.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:01:17pm

Man City at Arsenal on a cold and snowy London day. Reports are that the Arsenal fans are staying away in droves, but the visitors’ end is full. Oh boy….

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Belafon  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:01:53pm

re: #415 Backwoods_Sleuth

I would add “smart” that his list. Some knew that pulling their guns out would get them shot at by police. But it really points out that civilians with guns won’t stop shootings.

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mmmirele  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:03:33pm

re: #394 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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KGxvi  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:04:48pm

re: #409 mmmirele

If the GOP were to go completely Evangelical and hard core, I could see the Intermountain West Mormons learning quickly they’re not welcome. Because, seriously, Evangelicals consider Mormons unsaved cultists. I don’t understand why Mormons join up with a group that would have no respect for their religious beliefs and see Mormons as ripe for conversion.

Ana Marie Cox had a guest on her podcast last week that is a Mormon writer (forget his name) and they talked a good bit about Mormon culture and where it fits in politically. It was quite interesting, actually. I think it is mostly an alliance of convenience more than anything. Mormons are definitely less inclined to support immigration restrictions or general xenophobia (in part because many of them go abroad as missionaries). They also tend to be better (but not always great, see Prop 8) on freedom of religion issues. And most don’t really like Trump’s crassness.

I do wonder if Utah might have actually been in play in 2016 if the Democratic nominee hadn’t been Clinton.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:04:57pm

re: #408 Unshaken Defiance

The dollar is up.

Probably not for long with the threat of punitive tariffs.

Actually, it is mostly down over the last twenty-four hours against most currencies.

FOREX:

dailyfx.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:05:12pm

re: #418 Belafon

I would add “smart” that his list. Some knew that pulling their guns out would get them shot at by police. But it really points out that civilians with guns won’t stop shootings.

Like the civilian at the Giffords shooting who decided it was too dangerous to pull out his legal CCW.

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Kragar  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:05:24pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:08:25pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:09:51pm
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KGxvi  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:10:20pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:11:31pm

re: #424 Backwoods_Sleuth

And the pedants are all over that.

The fellow who says he hunts with an RPG is funny though.

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Slump-chan  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:13:05pm

re: #70 Decatur Deb

The weapons in the Unification Church ceremony are not all AR’s, but will favor a family-run knockoff marque. Moon Kook-jin, fourth son of Rev Moon, is a “firearms designer”/CEO. He owns Kahr Arms in the US (mostly handguns). The family owns or owned production facilities in S. Korea.

Say what you will about the Nation of Islam, at least they make tasty baked goods.

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Belafon  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:14:19pm

re: #425 Backwoods_Sleuth

We could be. At the same time, we could just be reliving the late 1960s struggles, which never really got resolved because everyone was just happy to be done with Vietnam, and/or the unresolved issues of the Civil War.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:14:27pm

This was the only kind of hunting I did as a kid:

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KGxvi  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:15:09pm

re: #430 Eclectic Cyborg

This was the only kind of hunting I did as a kid:

[Embedded content]

That damn laughing dog

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:15:26pm

re: #420 KGxvi

Ana Marie Cox had a guest on her podcast last week that is a Mormon writer (forget his name) and they talked a good bit about Mormon culture and where it fits in politically. It was quite interesting, actually. I think it is mostly an alliance of convenience more than anything. Mormons are definitely less inclined to support immigration restrictions or general xenophobia (in part because many of them go abroad as missionaries). They also tend to be better (but not always great, see Prop 8) on freedom of religion issues. And most don’t really like Trump’s crassness.

I do wonder if Utah might have actually been in play in 2016 if the Democratic nominee hadn’t been Clinton.

She’s on the latest Pod Save America talking about CPAC.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:15:26pm

The market is down 372 now with a few minutes before it closes in New York.

finance.google.com

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Dr. Matt  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:15:31pm

re: #424 Backwoods_Sleuth

Do 19yos kill deer with assault rifles? News to me.
— Scott Fearheiley (@ScottFearheiley) March 1, 2018

Most of my family/extended family and friends hunt in Michigan. I don’t know a single person that uses an AR-15. The 5.56 is not a preferred round to hunt game.

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KGxvi  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:16:19pm

re: #432 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

She’s on the latest Pod Save America talking about CPAC.

Yeah, she does her podcast through Crooked Media, so she’s on PSA fairly regularly.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:16:48pm

re: #433 Anymouse 🌹

The market is down 372 now with a few minutes before it closes in New York.

finance.google.com

45 minutes.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:17:26pm

re: #434 Dr. Matt

Most of my family/extended family and friends hunt in Michigan. I don’t know a single person that uses an AR-15. The 5.56 is not a preferred round to hunt game.

No one here hunts with an AR-15. It’s mostly shotguns or bolt-action rifles.

The pedantry is BS. It’s FUD designed to distract from the real issue. Fortunately, it can be swept aside as the BS it is this time. Folk aren’t falling for it now.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:17:28pm

re: #430 Eclectic Cyborg

This was the only kind of hunting I did as a kid:

[Embedded content]

There’s a Duck Hunt VR game now (Duck Season) where you start in a 70s living-room with a light gun.

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gocart mozart  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:17:36pm
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Kragar  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:18:00pm

re: #434 Dr. Matt

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:18:10pm

The tax on opiates is one of the stupidest ideas yet coming out of our General Assembly.
It won’t stop opiate or any other sort of drug abuse (sure thing…drug dealers collect taxes on their sales…bwahahahaaa).
What it WILL do is penalize people who legitimately need opiate prescription medication, but fuck those people…

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KGxvi  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:19:17pm

re: #439 gocart mozart

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:20:46pm

re: #441 Backwoods_Sleuth

The tax on opiates is one of the stupidest ideas yet coming out of our General Assembly.
It won’t stop opiate or any other sort of drug abuse (sure thing…drug dealers collect taxes on their sales…bwahahahaaa).
What it WILL do is penalize people who legitimately need opiate prescription medication, but fuck those people…

Compassionate conservatism.

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Kragar  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:21:25pm
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Dr. Matt  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:22:08pm

re: #444 Kragar

Game.Set.Match to Emilia

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Belafon  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:22:30pm

re: #439 gocart mozart

What is in the video?

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KGxvi  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:24:07pm

re: #446 Belafon

What is in the video?

White Utah legislators trying to do Schoolhouse Rocks to the tune of the Fresh Prince of Bel Air intro.

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Slump-chan  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:25:45pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:26:42pm

LOL…

Two years ago Rep Marzian introduced a bill that would have required Kentucky men to visit a doctor twice and have signed permission from their wives before obtaining a prescription for Viagra or other such drugs for erectile dysfunction. :D

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:30:23pm

re: #445 Dr. Matt

Game.Set.Match to Emilia

Numerous commentators are noting that he has no such puerile nickname for Vladimir Putin.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:30:39pm

what could go wrong?

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gocart mozart  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:30:41pm

re: #446 Belafon

What is in the video?

Utah conservative politicians rapping to the beat of the Fresh Prince of Bel Air theme song about how a bill becomes a law.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:31:38pm

when Manchin decides to be a jerk, he goes all in with the stupidity:

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gocart mozart  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:31:49pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:32:43pm

re: #451 Backwoods_Sleuth

what could go wrong?

More deflection. Just like the gun terminology pedantry.

Conservatism has no ideas that can stand on their own merits. That’s why they’ve been going on like this since long before I was born.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:33:21pm

re: #453 Backwoods_Sleuth

when Manchin decides to be a jerk, he goes all in with the stupidity:

Someone ought to send a tweet at him if he’s ever heard of Sandy Hook.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:34:03pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:35:37pm

Dow now down 417.74

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:36:03pm

re: #434 Dr. Matt

Most of my family/extended family and friends hunt in Michigan. I don’t know a single person that uses an AR-15. The 5.56 is not a preferred round to hunt game.

Popular for varmint shooting, however.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:36:45pm

speaking of pedantic gunsplaining:

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Weaselone  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:36:45pm

re: #453 Backwoods_Sleuth

when Manchin decides to be a jerk, he goes all in with the stupidity:

[Embedded content]

It’s nice to know that Manchin does’t pal around with mass shooters, but I’m not sure what that has to do with this debate. I don’t know anybody who has committed a crime with a suitcase nuclear device, but I still don’t think they should be sold to civilians.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:37:30pm

re: #450 Anymouse 🌹

Numerous commentators are noting that he has no such puerile nickname for Vladimir Putin.

He does, it’s “Boss.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:37:38pm

heh

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:38:45pm

re: #460 Backwoods_Sleuth

speaking of pedantic gunsplaining:

[Embedded content]

“What you’re talking about are PILES, not STILTS, so why should I pay any attention to your ideas if you don’t know the most basic terminology?”

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HappyWarrior  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:39:05pm

re: #460 Backwoods_Sleuth

speaking of pedantic gunsplaining:

[Embedded content]

Pedantic gunsplaining just drives me nuts.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:40:11pm

re: #450 Anymouse 🌹

Numerous commentators are noting that he has no such puerile nickname for Vladimir Putin.

Putin appears to target Tampa during speech touting advancements in Russia’s nukes

And Dotard still wants to be friends with Daddy Putin and Mother Russia.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:41:37pm
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bill d. (b.d.)  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:42:55pm

I am not going to be lectured about gun verbage from anyone who calls it the Democrat Party.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:43:42pm

sigh

idiots…all of them.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:43:43pm

wonkette.com

Wonkette notes all the bombshell news stories that dropped yesterday.

They also note FOX did their level best not to cover any of them and spent the day in DARVO mode. At least there were no car chases.

With screen shots of all their day’s lead stories at FOX.

For those who watch FOX, this is why it is so hard to break through to conservative voters with what’s actually happening. When you have propaganda and deflection fed at you for year after year, it makes it difficult to discern reality.

However, FOX is just a television version of the same conservative religion going on for a very long time. (William Jennings Bryan noted in 1896 that trickle-down economics didn’t work, though it was called “horse and sparrow” economics then, referring to the idea if the rich - horses - were fed a bigger helping of oats, the poor and middle-class - sparrows - would have more oats to pick out of the manure. A very apt description.)

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Belafon  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:44:34pm

re: #467 Backwoods_Sleuth

I bet the Philippines’ drug problem isn’t under any more control than when this policy started.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:45:34pm

re: #450 Anymouse 🌹

Numerous commentators are noting that he has no such puerile nickname for Vladimir Putin.

I’d like to know the nickname that Putin gives to him.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:46:20pm

re: #471 Belafon

I bet the Philippines’ drug problem isn’t under any more control than when this policy started.

It’s all about keeping the corruption in the “right” (i.e. Duerte-friendly) hands.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:46:45pm
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Belafon  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:46:46pm

re: #469 Backwoods_Sleuth

Where’s that at? He obviously wasn’t actually opposed to it. He’s not eccentric.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:47:06pm

re: #475 Belafon

Where’s that at? He obviously wasn’t actually opposed to it. He’s not eccentric.

Kentucky

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:47:53pm

video:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:48:25pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:48:35pm

re: #474 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Well, after all, only America has violent video games.
/

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:48:35pm

Sean Hannity: Hope Hicks Should Come Work for FOX News Channel

Video

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:48:50pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:49:32pm

re: #474 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump White House is now blaming video games, not guns, for mass shootings.

They’re so blind. Obviously, rock music is the real problem.
/

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Belafon  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:50:33pm

re: #474 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m curious how man video games the Las Vegas shooter played.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:51:34pm

re: #454 gocart mozart

White Men Chant Trump.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:52:31pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:53:36pm

re: #481 The Vicious Babushka

“You have the right to free speech. We don’t have to give you a platform for it. Free market, how does it work?”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:54:04pm

I’m beginning to think that SHS’s pearl necklace is actually some sort of shock collar.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:54:06pm

re: #483 Belafon

I’m curious how man video games the Las Vegas shooter played.

It’s all an issue of ethics in video game journalism

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Targetpractice  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:54:36pm

“Video games are responsible for violence!”

That train is never late.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:54:42pm

re: #482 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

They’re so blind. Obviously, rock music is the real problem.
/

And before that, that ni*CLANG jazz and ragtime.

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Bubblehead II  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:54:56pm

re: #456 Anymouse 🌹

Someone ought to send a tweet at him if he’s ever heard of Sandy Hook.

Nuance. He personally KNOWS NO ONE who used a AR-15 to commit a crime. Doesn’t mean he knows no one has used one to commit a crime. It’s how they dissemble to cover for their atrocious votes.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:56:05pm

re: #491 Bubblehead II

Nuance. He personally KNOWS NO ONE who used a AR-15 to commit a crime. Doesn’t mean he knows no one has used one to commit a crime. It’s how they dissemble to cover for their atrocious votes.

Then, “so this is how you dissemble for your atrocious vote, Senator? Too lazy to speak to Sandy Hook victims and parents?”

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whitebeach  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:56:29pm

re: #208 Alephnaught

The Red alert for snow over in Central Scotland has passed and is now “only” Amber.

Meanwhile, Ireland is currently in total lockdown.

[Embedded content]

Poor wretches so desperate to escape certain death from a two-inch blizzard that they’re fleeing by way of the wrong side of the road.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:57:09pm

re: #490 Anymouse 🌹

And before that, that ni*CLANG jazz and ragtime.

And Mary-jew-wanna, don’t forget that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:57:30pm

clearing my schedule and stocking up on popcorn and adult beverages.

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lawhawk  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:57:38pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:57:41pm

Having not had enough bad press coverage for his “town halls,” Trump now to meet with game developers.

I’m sure that’s going to go over well, as game developers are known for their diplomatic nature and adherence to authority.////

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dangerman  Mar 1, 2018 • 12:59:58pm

re: #392 sagehen

Also makes Chaffetz’ “they need Jesus” extra offensive.

thats where i was going above

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:00:04pm

Down finishes down 400 for the day.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:00:52pm

re: #494 Blind Frog Belly White

And Mary-jew-wanna, don’t forget that.

It’s all connected. I’ve slaughtered thousands of video game characters while hopped up on the Mary Jane.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:01:00pm

re: #499 Eclectic Cyborg

Down finishes down 400 for the day.

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Kragar  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:01:39pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:02:25pm

don’t know whether to cry or point and laugh…

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Belafon  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:02:33pm

re: #502 Kragar

I wonder how many video games he plays.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:03:29pm

re: #496 lawhawk

Georgia GOP is helping speed up the timeline to turn their state Blue. Well played.

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jeffreyw  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:04:52pm
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Eventual Carrion  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:05:01pm

re: #409 mmmirele

If the GOP were to go completely Evangelical and hard core, I could see the Intermountain West Mormons learning quickly they’re not welcome. Because, seriously, Evangelicals consider Mormons unsaved cultists. I don’t understand why Mormons join up with a group that would have no respect for their religious beliefs and see Mormons as ripe for conversion.

I feel the same way about the Roman Catholics I know that are strict Repubs (I’m looking at you dad). I tried to explain to him that they consider his religion “the whore of Babylon”. I talked to many Evangelicals in the south in my 14 years living there that held that belief. But what are ya gonna do.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:06:34pm
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lawhawk  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:06:51pm

ProPublica got their hands on a powerpoint issued by the Associated General Contractors of America (AGC) to its members, and they call out Trumpworld for the dumpster fire it is.

Sure, they may like some of the economic policies (though I doubt they’ll like the steel/aluminium tariffs Trump’s pushing today), but ultimately they find the entire administration to be dysfunctional and incompetent. Loyalty and family ties trump competence.

It’s everything anyone but the GOP/NRA cultists have been saying since the moment Trump ran for office.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:07:04pm

Dow drops 420 points, but…..

….Dick’s Sporting Goods ticks up slightly.

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lawhawk  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:07:34pm

re: #502 Kragar

Someone needs to check whether he took a call from Duterte in the past 24 hours.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:08:45pm

re: #503 Backwoods_Sleuth

God punished him by forcing him to support a racist President?
By forcing him to lie about a Black Congresswoman?
By forcing him to make stupid comments about the Civil War?
By forcing him to make bigoted comments about “lazy” immigrants?

Nope. He’s exactly where he’s supposed to be. He’s just as horrible as his President.

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dangerman  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:09:24pm

re: #465 HappyWarrior

Pedantic gunsplaining just drives me nuts.

i think you mean “crazy”
(ducks)

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:10:00pm

re: #505 Dr. Matt

Georgia GOP is helping speed up the timeline to turn their state Blue. Well played.

NICE TIME! Georgia Civil Rights Worker Not Guilty Of Blackness, We Mean Voter Fraud! (Wonkette):

Last April, we brought you the insane story of Olivia Pearson, a civil rights worker and member of the city commission in Douglas, Georgia, who had been accused of voter fraud after showing a first-time voter how to use the voting machine at a polling place. The local Republican prosecutor decided to charge her with illegally assisting the voter and of falsely swearing on a form that a poll worker had asked her to sign. The jury in her trial deadlocked, so she was retried — and granted a change of venue to another county, 60 miles away. Yesterday, the second jury found Pearson not guilty.

As we pointed out last year, Pearson is a dangerous troublemaker in Douglas. She was elected as the town’s first African-American commissioner in 1999, and has constantly worked to get black voters registered and to the polls in Douglas. Pearson also headed a successful drive to elect the county’s first black sheriff, Democrat Doyle Wooten, and she’d been very vocal in standing up for black citizens who had felt singled out by police. As we say, a troublemaker.

(more)

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:10:48pm

re: #513 dangerman

i think you mean “crazy”
(ducks)

My mother the O’Hare musician/clinical psychologist notes “crazy is a technical term for use by professionals only.” /pedant

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dangerman  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:10:59pm

re: #468 bill d. (b.d.)

I am not going to be lectured about gun verbage from anyone who calls it the Democrat Party.

if changing the words changed their destructive power i’d be first in line

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:12:04pm

re: #516 dangerman

if changing the words changed their destructive power i’d be first in line

The funny thing is, hollow point bullets are far more destructive than hollow, pointless arguments.
//

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KGxvi  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:12:05pm

re: #507 Eventual Carrion

I feel the same way about the Roman Catholics I know that are strict Repubs (I’m looking at you dad). I tried to explain to him that they consider his religion “the whore of Babylon”. I talked to many Evangelicals in the south in my 14 years living there that held that belief. But what are ya gonna do.

Other than abortion, I really don’t understand why so many Catholics are Republican. I grew up as both (added benefit of being half-Cuban), and it rarely made sense. The Cuban part, I at least understand on anti-communist grounds, but that stopped mattering in a real way when I was in junior high school and the USSR dissolved.

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Kragar  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:12:13pm
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Dr. Matt  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:13:16pm

BREAKING: HR McMaster is leaving the WH

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:14:08pm

re: #520 Dr. Matt

BREAKING: HR McMaster is leaving the WH

Holy shit, they’re dripping like flies.

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dangerman  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:15:01pm

re: #502 Kragar

Inside of 24 hours, Trump has suggested that cops should just grab guns from anyone they think is dangerous and that killing people suspected of committing crimes is something to be encouraged.

AND THE RESPONSE TO THIS INSANITY IS CRICKETS

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lawhawk  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:15:02pm

re: #520 Dr. Matt

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:15:11pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:15:20pm

Oath Cancels Show Starring Muslim-Hater Pamela Geller’s Instagram-Star Daughters (The Daily Beast)

It sounds like it was a shitty show, and they’re shitty people, but no one should be fired just become their mom is infamous.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:15:35pm

re: #521 Eclectic Cyborg

Holy shit, they’re dripping like flies.

Like someone said yesterday, “The last two hours have been one hell of a week.”

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lawhawk  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:16:52pm
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:17:07pm

re: #521 Eclectic Cyborg

The U.S. Ambassador to Mexico quit too.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:17:45pm

Last one out has to lock up.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:18:22pm

It seems like a lifetime ago that Trump was proposing an unConstitutional gun grab.

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dangerman  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:18:36pm

re: #515 Anymouse 🌹

My mother the O’Hare musician/clinical psychologist notes “crazy is a technical term for use by professionals only.” /pedant

you’re pedanting on top of my pedant?

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lawhawk  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:18:44pm

In other words, Trump’s a fucking moron.

(yeah, I repeat myself).

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wrenchwench  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:20:17pm

re: #529 Blind Frog Belly White

Second to Last one out has to lock him up.

ftfy

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:20:57pm

re: #519 Kragar

Okay. So Delta is packing up and moving its HQ, right? By the way, I thought Republicans were the party of businesses and respected business decisions. Guess not.

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whitebeach  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:20:59pm

re: #529 Blind Frog Belly White

Last one out has to lock up.

I believe someone else will take care of the locking up.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:21:03pm

re: #531 dangerman

you’re pedanting on top of my pedant?

It’s pedantry all the way up.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:21:23pm
538
Eventual Carrion  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:21:48pm

re: #472 The Vicious Babushka

I’d like to know the nickname that Putin gives to him.

His Pal (personal ass licker)

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Targetpractice  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:22:26pm

re: #532 lawhawk

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In other words, Trump’s a fucking moron.

(yeah, I repeat myself).

Only way it makes any sense is the assumption that he’s doing this in order to protect his “brand,” i.e. losing a high profile race like this would further diminish his appeal to the GOP.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:22:45pm

This 4D Chess Trump is playing is truly amazing.

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:23:11pm

re: #482 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

They’re so blind. Obviously, rock music is the real problem.
/

I thought it was pool halls.

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Slump-chan  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:23:18pm
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Belafon  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:23:25pm

re: #529 Blind Frog Belly White

Last one out has to be locked up.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:23:29pm

re: #539 Targetpractice

Only way it makes any sense is the assumption that he’s doing this in order to protect his “brand,” i.e. losing a high profile race like this would further diminish his appeal to the GOP.

how many high profile races has he actually won so far? His track record on this has been nothing to brag about.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:24:24pm

re: #535 whitebeach

I believe someone else will take care of the locking up.

Spackling?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:24:46pm

re: #543 Belafon

First one to flip gets the top bunk.

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darthstar  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:25:06pm
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Stanley Sea  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:25:14pm

The crazy we are living in this thread

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:25:30pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:26:15pm

re: #549 Anymouse 🌹

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I hate this man so much. I wish we could deport him.

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ObserverArt  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:26:33pm

re: #518 KGxvi

Other than abortion, I really don’t understand why so many Catholics are Republican. I grew up as both (added benefit of being half-Cuban), and it rarely made sense. The Cuban part, I at least understand on anti-communist grounds, but that stopped mattering in a real way when I was in junior high school and the USSR dissolved.

Back in the 60s many Catholics were Democrats. I think that held through the 70s too. But when Reagan came things changed. I think he managed to sell his steaming pile of old time religion, anti-porn, anti-abortion and America the great white nation to many and they bought into Republican thinking. IMO.

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dangerman  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:27:00pm

11:25AM - “President Trump has decided against announcing tariffs on steel and aluminum imports on Thursday after 18 hours of frenetic pushback from inside the White House and on Capitol Hill,” the Washington Post reports.

1:29PM - President Trump said “that he will impose stiff and sweeping tariffs on imports of steel and aluminum as he moved to fulfill a key campaign promise to get tough on foreign competitors,” the New York Times reports.

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darthstar  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:27:23pm

Fuck Infrastructure Week…we’re living in Infrastructure Year.

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ObserverArt  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:27:35pm

re: #520 Dr. Matt

BREAKING: HR McMaster is leaving the WH

It’s going to be nothing but Trump family before too long. What a freaking mess this White House is.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:28:35pm

re: #554 ObserverArt

It’s going to be nothing but Trump family before too long. What a freaking mess this White House is.

Can Ivanka get a security clearance, given that her husband is so vulnerable to financial manipulation?

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Interesting Times  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:28:46pm

Interesting trendlines:

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whitebeach  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:29:24pm

re: #520 Dr. Matt

BREAKING: HR McMaster is leaving the WH

Explains that he wants to spend more time with Melania.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:31:01pm
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dangerman  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:31:43pm

and

buzzfeed

Things are still pretty bleak inside the White House,” the source said. “I’ve talked to several people in the last week trying to find a way out, but they can’t get out because no one is really hiring people with Trump White House experience.

what a surprise
1. no one wants to hire any of them

2. now they have some meager idea what it’s like for most americans who cant just quit and find another job (or move) when they are faced with discrimination , sexual harassment, limits on their health insurance (hobby lobby), etc.

there arent always opportunities, or means to “just move if youre not happy”

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teleskiguy  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:31:44pm
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ObserverArt  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:32:17pm

re: #534 Patricia Kayden

Okay. So Delta is packing up and moving its HQ, right? By the way, I thought Republicans were the party of businesses and respected business decisions. Guess not.

Hint. They are not really the Republican party, they just assumed the name. All the real Republicans left back in the Bush times. What we have now is the residue of all the bad that was left behind, otherwise known as scum.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:32:46pm
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MsJ  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:33:05pm

re: #496 lawhawk

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:33:21pm

re: #559 dangerman

and

buzzfeed

what a surprise
1. no one wants to hire any of them

2. now they have some meager idea what it’s like for most americans who cant just quit and find another job (or move) when they are faced with discrimination , sexual harassment, limits on their health insurance (hobby lobby), etc.

there arent always opportunities, or means to “just move if youre not happy”

And why hire somebody who’s likely to be indicted soon, anyway?

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allegro  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:33:31pm

re: #557 whitebeach

Explains that he wants to spend more time with Melania.

Melania couldn’t be found for comment.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:33:50pm

re: #558 Backwoods_Sleuth

There’s little precedent for ANYTHING this White House does.

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lawhawk  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:34:05pm

re: #555 Blind Frog Belly White

Can Ivanka get a security clearance, given that her husband is so vulnerable to financial manipulation?

The answer should be no. She’s susceptible to the same exact pressure/financial chicanery that would compromise US national security.

There’s no way she should have clearance either, but we know Trump doesn’t give a shit about national security.

We also know the GOP doesn’t give a shit about national security or handling of classified information unless they can make it all about Hillary (who actually did better in handling classified info than Trump ever has).

Trump’s repeatedly allowed his family access to classified info when they never should have gotten their hands on this info.

On the plus side, they probably don’t have a clue what they’re looking at.

The negative side is they don’t know what they’re looking at and don’t care to find out, but will be more than happy to pass it on to the Russians anyway.

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Interesting Times  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:34:39pm

re: #566 Eclectic Cyborg

There’s little precedent for ANYTHING this White House does.

There is if you broaden the frame of reference to third-world tinpot dictatorships…

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Stanley Sea  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:36:04pm

re: #562 Backwoods_Sleuth

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And you know the rich auto dealership owners voted en masse for the yam.

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teleskiguy  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:36:25pm

Oh? This probably won’t sit well with Fuckface Von Clownstick’s puppetmaster Putin.

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Scout  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:36:42pm
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Dr. Matt  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:37:20pm

One way to help decimate a city’s economy is to lose a major airline hub. Look at Memphis after Northwestern was absorbed into Delta and then left the city altogether. Their airport could be used for a Walking Dead set now.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:37:25pm
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whitebeach  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:37:41pm

re: #566 Eclectic Cyborg

There’s little precedent for ANYTHING this White House does.

Well, they used to run these things called demolition derbies when I was I kid. Do they still do those?

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Bubblehead II  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:38:36pm

re: #492 Anymouse 🌹

Then, “so this is how you dissemble for your atrocious vote, Senator? Too lazy to speak to Sandy Hook victims and parents?”

Sorry for the delay. Beer run. But short answer is, yep.

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MsJ  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:39:25pm

re: #559 dangerman

and

buzzfeed

what a surprise
1. no one wants to hire any of them

2. now they have some meager idea what it’s like for most americans who cant just quit and find another job (or move) when they are faced with discrimination , sexual harassment, limits on their health insurance (hobby lobby), etc.

there arent always opportunities, or means to “just move if youre not happy”

The sympathy I feel for these folks who only wanted a shot at TrumpTV but decided to fuck up the entire country.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:40:03pm

such a moron

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ObserverArt  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:40:15pm

re: #555 Blind Frog Belly White

Can Ivanka get a security clearance, given that her husband is so vulnerable to financial manipulation?

Does it matter to Trump is the bigger question? He’s already trashed anything that could be considered normal procedures of how the U.S. Government is operated.

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teleskiguy  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:41:21pm
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Belafon  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:42:47pm

re: #579 teleskiguy

I’m going to stick with being an atheist. I refuse to believe it.

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KGxvi  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:43:05pm

re: #573 Stanley Sea

I mean, on the one hand, it’s better out of glass bottles, but it’s fucking amazing that Trump is just going to try and piss everyone off.

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:43:17pm

re: #496 lawhawk

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I’m waiting for the announcement that Delta will be relocating their national hub out of Hartsfield-Jackson (Atlanta International) Airport to another facility. That move alone will cost the state BILLIONS of dollars as it will definitely remove their designation as the world’s busiest passenger airport.

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ipsos  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:43:23pm

re: #575 Bubblehead II

Sorry for the delay. Beer run. But short answer is, yep.

Get it before the cost of the cans goes up! Damn tariffs!

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:44:22pm

I have a bunch of treat packages to deliver (Purim is like a Jewish Halloween but with a reverse “Trick or Treat” in which costumed revelers bring treats to their friends and neighbors). Fuck it if I am going out in this mess.

We only had one candy delivery from a neighbor, who came before the snow got really hard.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:45:01pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:45:10pm

re: #558 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“All questions regarding a major member of the White House selling access through his office should go to his lawyer. Now let’s go back to discussing the Clinton Foundation selling access to Hillary Clinton…”

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ObserverArt  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:45:14pm

re: #562 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Watch American car prices go up and imports down thus hurting the economy even more.

Next up tariffs on import cars.

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teleskiguy  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:46:53pm

Meanwhile it’s 51° F at my twenty in the middle of the still snow starved Rocky Mountains in Colorado. Water managers are kind of freaking out.

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dangerman  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:47:04pm

re: #577 Backwoods_Sleuth

such a moron

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how close is that picture to this:

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MsJ  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:47:14pm

re: #582 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

I’m waiting for the announcement that Delta will be relocating their national hub out of Hartsfield-Jackson (Atlanta International) Airport to another facility. That move alone will cost the state BILLIONS of dollars as it will definitely remove their designation as the world’s busiest passenger airport.

I would think it would take months to logistically determine how to make a move that big. I don’t think there are a lot of airports in the country that could handle the traffic that isn’t a hub for a carrier now. Denver could, I suppose, but their weather is not great. I would almost expect them to go to Minneapolis where NW used to be but left when they merged with Delta. Again, weather. Does corporate need to be where the airport is? Maybe, maybe not.

It is beyond troubling that Republicans are willing to kill commerce for this.

I don’t get shocked by them much any longer but this completely shocks me.

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A Mom Anon  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:47:29pm

re: #559 dangerman

If it was easy I wouldn’t still be living in GA. It’s not for a lack of trying either. I’d be in Colorado or N. CA if it was that fucking simple. The idea it’s easy is from idiots who have no clue what it is to relocate or from rich assholes who never have to give it a second thought.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:48:27pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:49:09pm

re: #551 ObserverArt

Back in the 60s many Catholics were Democrats. I think that held through the 70s too. But when Reagan came things changed. I think he managed to sell his steaming pile of old time religion, anti-porn, anti-abortion and America the great white nation to many and they bought into Republican thinking. IMO.

Evangelical wingnut advisor to Ronald Reagan, Paul Weyrich, actually came up with the idea of selling abortion scares to Catholics.

Weyrich was after political power in the Republican party for Evangelicals, and Catholics were useful idiots for the GOP goal due to their long-standing anti-abortion and anti-contraception opposition.

Evangelicals themselves originally viewed those issues as “a Catholic problem,” and the Southern Baptist Convention was originally pro-Roe v Wade. Weyrich welded the two groups together to gain and maintain power for conservatives. The SBC and other Christian sects that were (and are) racist were also rolled up into the Christian voting bloc for Reagan.

Weyrich played on each Christian sect’s particular hobby horse against secular laws to roll them all up into the Christian Coalition which support Reagan (and the GOP ever since).

They are all still useful idiots, since conservatives don’t care about them, they care about gaining and maintaining power.

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dangerman  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:50:41pm

re: #591 A Mom Anon

If it was easy I wouldn’t still be living in GA. It’s not for a lack of trying either. I’d be in Colorado or N. CA if it was that fucking simple. The idea it’s easy is from idiots who have no clue what it is to relocate or from rich assholes who never have to give it a second thought.

exactly so

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ipsos  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:50:47pm

I can’t realistically imagine Delta removing its hub from Atlanta. If I’m going south from western New York, I’m not going to be doing it through MSP or Denver and adding multiple hours and potential bad-weather delays to my trip.

But its corporate headquarters? Those don’t have to be in the same city as the hub, and that is a lever Delta could use against the morons running Georgia right now.

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wrenchwench  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:51:20pm

re: #588 teleskiguy

Meanwhile it’s 51° F at my twenty in the middle of the still snow starved Rocky Mountains in Colorado. Water managers are kind of freaking out.

It snowed here off and on all day yesterday, but the sidewalk stayed dry. The snow would land, melt, and evaporate before the next flake hit.

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dangerman  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:53:57pm

re: #585 Backwoods_Sleuth

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they’re talking about this guy:

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MsJ  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:54:14pm

re: #595 ipsos

I can’t realistically imagine Delta removing its hub from Atlanta. If I’m going south from western New York, I’m not going to be doing it through MSP or Denver and adding multiple hours and potential bad-weather delays to my trip.

But its corporate headquarters? Those don’t have to be in the same city as the hub, and that is a lever Delta could use against the morons running Georgia right now.

If fuel costs increase to the point of unsustainability, they will be gone in a heartbeat.

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KGxvi  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:54:27pm

re: #595 ipsos

I can’t realistically imagine Delta removing its hub from Atlanta. If I’m going south from western New York, I’m not going to be doing it through MSP or Denver and adding multiple hours and potential bad-weather delays to my trip.

But its corporate headquarters? Those don’t have to be in the same city as the hub, and that is a lever Delta could use against the morons running Georgia right now.

Nashville, Charlotte, Louisville, and Jacksonville are all locations in the region that would accomplish the same goal as Atlanta. Not sure how the airports there are, and whether they’d be able to support a hub, but I’m guessing the state and local governments there would be all about the infrastructure investment, development, and jobs that would come with a Delta hub move.

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dangerman  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:54:28pm

er this guy

auto industry executive Stephen Biegun

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:54:39pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:54:41pm

I’m off for a nap, catch y’all later. Like Teleskiguy, I’m railing against the temps here (57F now). Snow is our rainy season in what is a very arid part of the country. Little to no snow in the winter means drought the rest of the year, harming farming and ranching.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:54:45pm

re: #595 ipsos

I can’t realistically imagine Delta removing its hub from Atlanta. If I’m going south from western New York, I’m not going to be doing it through MSP or Denver and adding multiple hours and potential bad-weather delays to my trip.

But its corporate headquarters? Those don’t have to be in the same city as the hub, and that is a lever Delta could use against the morons running Georgia right now.

Yeah, they are not leaving Hartsfield. No way.

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teleskiguy  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:54:50pm

Meanwhile darthstar is going to get some all time skiing this weekend. You skiing this weekend? I think you should go skiing this weekend. Can’t go wrong with eyeball deep snow.

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fern01  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:55:36pm

re: #453 Backwoods_Sleuth

when Manchin decides to be a jerk, he goes all in with the stupidity:

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Only think Manchin cares about is Manchin - He thinks guns! will help him get re-elected.

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:55:39pm

Someone here called it earlier — dickhead baseball coach fired:

washingtonpost.com

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ObserverArt  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:55:49pm

Reminder NASA launch is in 6.5 minutes! Looks to be good to go.

nasa.gov

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MsJ  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:56:20pm

re: #599 KGxvi

Nashville, Charlotte, Louisville, and Jacksonville are all locations in the region that would accomplish the same goal as Atlanta. Not sure how the airports there are, and whether they’d be able to support a hub, but I’m guessing the state and local governments there would be all about the infrastructure investment, development, and jobs that would come with a Delta hub move.

Charlotte is already a hub for…someone. Nice airport.

Atlanta is an international airport with final destinations in Europe and South America. I am sure Nashville or Memphis would love the traffic…and the jobs.

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piratedan  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:56:46pm

re: #547 darthstar

some countries have similar penalties for treason…. just sayin’

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ObserverArt  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:57:26pm

re: #607 ObserverArt

Reminder NASA launch is in 6.5 minutes! Looks to be good to go.

nasa.gov

All stations report go. In final 5 minute countdown.

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KGxvi  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:57:41pm

re: #608 MsJ

Charlotte is already a hub for…someone. Nice airport.

Atlanta is an international airport with final destinations in Europe and South America. I am sure Nashville or Memphis would love the traffic…and the jobs.

I was just looking at a map, trying to figure out what made sense geographically.

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ipsos  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:57:44pm

re: #599 KGxvi

Nashville, Charlotte, Louisville, and Jacksonville are all locations in the region that would accomplish the same goal as Atlanta. Not sure how the airports there are, and whether they’d be able to support a hub, but I’m guessing the state and local governments there would be all about the infrastructure investment, development, and jobs that would come with a Delta hub move.

I’ve flown through all of those airports (except Louisville) in the last few years. Charlotte is already a hub for American (ex-USAir). None of those airports has anywhere near the capacity a Delta hub would require. It could be built, but it would take years to accomplish.

And frankly, it’s not as though the state governments in KY, TN, NC or FL are much more enlightened than Georgia right now. (Give or take the governorship of NC.)

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allegro  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:58:13pm

re: #590 MsJ

I would think it would take months to logistically determine how to make a move that big. I don’t think there are a lot of airports in the country that could handle the traffic that isn’t a hub for a carrier now. Denver could, I suppose, but their weather is not great. I would almost expect them to go to Minneapolis where NW used to be but left when they merged with Delta. Again, weather. Does corporate need to be where the airport is? Maybe, maybe not.

It is beyond troubling that Republicans are willing to kill commerce for this.

I don’t get shocked by them much any longer but this completely shocks me.

The start would be to announce that they are looking and entertaining bids with the statement that GA is no longer a hospitable and welcoming state for business. It will take months to do that. Then watch the votes come November.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:58:48pm

re: #599 KGxvi

Nashville, Charlotte, Louisville, and Jacksonville are all locations in the region that would accomplish the same goal as Atlanta. Not sure how the airports there are, and whether they’d be able to support a hub, but I’m guessing the state and local governments there would be all about the infrastructure investment, development, and jobs that would come with a Delta hub move.

Jacksonville, Florida. I don’t think they are a hub for anyone.

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dangerman  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:58:51pm

re: #606 Flying Squirrel Girl

Someone here called it earlier — dickhead baseball coach fired:

washingtonpost.com

moran

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:59:09pm

Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport (CVG) is already a Delta Hub.
Would be no big deal moving corporate offices here.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:59:33pm

re: #606 Flying Squirrel Girl

Someone here called it earlier — dickhead baseball coach fired:

washingtonpost.com

*raises hand*

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MsJ  Mar 1, 2018 • 1:59:44pm

re: #614 Dr. Matt

Jacksonville, Florida. I don’t think they are a hub for anyone.

JAX might be too close to MIA in terms of air traffic.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:00:53pm

re: #618 MsJ

JAX might be too close to MIA in terms of air traffic.

Orlando is closer to Miami. Orlando is a hub for Southwest.

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freetoken  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:01:44pm

Better hurry before all the tickets are gone:

Squishing science: Flat Earth International Conference coming to Edmonton

[…]

Davidson, who is also a creationist, launched the world’s first flat-earth conference in Raleigh, North Carolina last year and it sold out months in advance. He expects similar interest in Edmonton.

He believes there is no hard scientific proof that the earth is a sphere circling around the sun, saying, “Why don’t we have a 24/7 live stream of the spinning earth from space? [ed. we do.] Surely they could put it on the moon, they could put all these advertisers, they could market it.”

[…]

Davidson said there are “no atheists” in the flat earth community.

“Once you make earth just another planet like everything else, it loses its significance. It also loses its value based on the fact that we’re just a random accident exploded through the universe,” he said.

[…]

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:03:41pm
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Belafon  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:03:48pm

re: #620 freetoken

It’s people like Davidson that pretty much prove we’re an accident.

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ObserverArt  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:04:37pm

That is one very bright launch…powerful. Looks good so far.

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JordanRules  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:05:37pm

re: #613 allegro

Yeah. I think they’ve still got tons of leverage. I don’t think a move will happen and I think things will end up in their favor. I hope so too. I love Atlanta and know how important Delta is to the city. Know lots of folks who work there as well.

Obviously if the state is intent on screwing them, a move may have to happen which would likely take a while.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:05:57pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:06:39pm

re: #605 fern01

Only think Manchin cares about is Manchin - He thinks guns! will help him get re-elected.

Manchin has remained a Democrat even though his state is deep red. He’s no different from any other politician in terms of deciding which battles to fight. He’s better than any replacement — because they would all be GOP.

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Ace-o-aces  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:07:18pm
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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:07:26pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:07:26pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:08:20pm

re: #614 Dr. Matt

Jacksonville, Florida. I don’t think they are a hub for anyone.

Florida is currently little better than Georgia where guns are concerned.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:08:36pm
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MsJ  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:11:22pm

re: #620 freetoken

Better hurry before all the tickets are gone:

Squishing science: Flat Earth International Conference coming to Edmonton

But are the attendees coming from all around the globe?

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HappyWarrior  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:11:32pm

re: #631 Backwoods_Sleuth

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What I am honestly curious is what Tomi really knows about guns that isn’t right wing propaganda.

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ObserverArt  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:12:05pm

re: #613 allegro

The start would be to announce that they are looking and entertaining bids with the statement that GA is no longer a hospitable and welcoming state for business. It will take months to do that. Then watch the votes come November.

I commented much the same yesterday. Delta could change the state government in Georgia this year.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:12:31pm

Sen Seum is a Republican and Majority Caucus Chair in the Kentucky General Assembly.

I am almost speechless about this…can’t stop blinking.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:12:37pm

Gallego, a Congressman btw is right. I don’t care about the name. I care about an instrument of warfare being in the wrong hands.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:12:46pm

re: #631 Backwoods_Sleuth

Tomi Lahren

@TomiLahren
Hey Lefties, “AR” does NOT stand for “assault rifle.” It stands for “ArmaLite rifle.” You want to take our guns but you don’t know jack about guns. See the problem?
6:24 PM - Feb 28, 2018
12,896 12,896 Replies 6,315 6,315 Retweets 23,455 23,455 likes

Yes, I see the problem TerribleLiar — it’s psychopaths like you who care nothing about the slaughter of your fellow citizens.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:12:54pm

re: #632 MsJ

But are the attendees coming from all around the globe?

all four corners of the earth…

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allegro  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:13:10pm

re: #627 Ace-o-aces

What did McMaster do to piss off Kelly and Mattis? I can’t even keep up.

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freetoken  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:13:24pm

One reason I highlighted the bit from that creationists, about his allegation of us not having video of the globe earth from space, is that indeed GOES-S is a geostationary satellite, and like its predecessors, every day sends plenty of images of the globe earth.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:14:19pm

re: #639 allegro

What did McMaster do to piss off Kelly and Mattis? I can’t even keep up.

IIRC, it was something he said that directly contradicted the yam…pretty much said the yam was an idiot.

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darthstar  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:14:25pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:14:47pm

re: #639 allegro

What did McMaster do to piss off Kelly and Mattis? I can’t even keep up.

I’m wondering the same. Every day with this bunch.

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darthstar  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:15:46pm

re: #643 HappyWarrior

I’m wondering the same. Every day with this bunch.

Three times a day with this bunch. I just ran a couple of scripts and came back to find McMaster’s leaving.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:16:05pm

re: #639 allegro

What did McMaster do to piss off Kelly and Mattis? I can’t even keep up.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:17:07pm

*snort*

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:17:16pm

re: #639 allegro

What did McMaster do to piss off Kelly and Mattis? I can’t even keep up.

It was this.

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allegro  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:18:08pm

re: #641 Backwoods_Sleuth

IIRC, it was something he said that directly contradicted the yam…pretty much said the yam was an idiot.

Didn’t Kelly call yammish a fucking idiot?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:18:10pm

re: #502 Kragar

Inside of 24 hours, Trump has suggested that cops should just grab guns from anyone they think is dangerous and that killing people suspected of committing crimes is something to be encouraged.

He is not responsible for anything he says. Nor will he be taken seriously to task by the media for his utterances.

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MsJ  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:18:11pm

re: #645 Backwoods_Sleuth

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ObserverArt  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:18:13pm

re: #645 Backwoods_Sleuth

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All this from the Chief Bozo who said he won bigly and he has nothing to hide and the Russian didn’t collude because he never talked to them and, and and…

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freetoken  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:19:50pm

GOES-S will eventually become GOES-west when operational.

GOES-16 recently became GOES-east.

While neat things, one item I don’t like is how the images are distributed. Because more of this stuff is now contracted out, you have to go to dedicated satellite image websites because established websites are not re-done to work with the new data managers.

For example, the NHC website used to be a nice site to get satellite data, but now doesn’t have much from GOES-east:
nhc.noaa.gov
… but they say the “transition” is still in progress.

I wonder, given the current Administration, how much work is going to be scuttled that was planned.

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fern01  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:20:57pm

re: #458 Anymouse 🌹

Dow now down 417.74

There is no business safe from a Donald Trump bankruptcy.

The economics of tariffs went downhill sometime in the 1960s. Trump and whoever told him a steel tariff was a MAKA option have no idea what it would cost to rebuild the US steel industry to replace imports.

So we get a few options - rising cost of cars - rising inflation - rising interest rates - collapse of housing market - collapse of car industry - another recession & as no-one in this administration has any idea as to how to proceed - election of a democrat to get the USA out of the GOP created mess. Two years later, after GOPers tantrums - re-elect GOP congress to do it all again.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:21:01pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:23:14pm

re: #654 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Silence from those who cry about people boycotting Milo.

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freetoken  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:24:35pm

Also notice how the NASA video announcers on the video webpage kept calling it a “weather” satellite.

Yes, the GOES satellites are used as such, but the “E” stands for “Environmental”, and the GOES satellites are also used for climate research. But “climate” is a word not in favor with the current regime.

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fern01  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:25:06pm

re: #480 Anymouse 🌹

Sean Hannity: Hope Hicks Should Come Work for FOX News Channel

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Probably the reason her hair color is getting lighter as she spends longer in a RW cocoon.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:26:29pm
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allegro  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:27:49pm

re: #649 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He is not responsible for anything he says. Nor will he be taken seriously to task by the media for his utterances.

Ca we stop this please? Yes there’s rightwing media and a few MS media individuals *cough* Haberman*cough* carrying Trump’s water but when I turn on CNN and PBS Trump is trounced seriously and all of this shit is discussed. It’s certainly the case at MSNBC, Washington Post, even the Houston freaking Chronicle, and other major media outlets. This debilitating woe-is-us-we’re-DOOMED negativity isn’t doing anyone any good.

/end rant

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:28:48pm

re: #653 fern01

The economics of tariffs went downhill sometime in the 1960s. Trump and whoever told him a steel tariff was a MAKA option have no idea what it would cost to rebuild the US steel industry to replace imports.

People voted for a man who offered simple (i.e. simplistic) solutions that the “common people” could relate to. This all sounds good and he will be able to point to a few local successes to defend his position and his supporters will go along because they believe it and his party will begrudgingly support their President and the press will not challenge him seriously because they no longer believe it is their job to do anything other than report public opinion as it is expressed on Twitter and social media..

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:28:49pm

re: #639 allegro

What did McMaster do to piss off Kelly and Mattis? I can’t even keep up.

Here comes Nat Sec Adviser Stephen Miller (my prediction).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:28:51pm

(for those who are not familiar, Mr Mariotti is running for Illinois Attorney General)

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HappyWarrior  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:29:04pm

re: #658 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The latter sounds like someone we know in the WH.

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teleskiguy  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:29:27pm

If there were any real justice in this world this is how the saga of Fuckface Von Clownstick would end.

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ipsos  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:29:53pm

re: #661 Big Beautiful Door

Here comes Nat Sec Adviser Stephen Miller (my prediction).

What would THAT confirmation hearing look like, I wonder?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:30:50pm

re: #659 allegro

Ca we stop this please? Yes there’s rightwing media and a few MS media individuals *cough* Haberman*cough* carrying Trump’s water but when I turn on CNN and PBS Trump is trounced seriously and all of this shit is discussed. It’s certainly the case at MSNBC, Washington Post, even the Houston freaking Chronicle, and other major media outlets. This debilitating woe-is-us-we’re-DOOMED negativity isn’t doing anyone any good.

/end rant

no. because the press has abdicated any responsibility for doing anything but reporting public opinion as it appears in Twitter and social media. The fact that Trump got into office and has remained there this long shows us the degree of decline we are in.

We are beyond fucked.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:31:18pm

re: #599 KGxvi

Nashville, Charlotte, Louisville, and Jacksonville are all locations in the region that would accomplish the same goal as Atlanta. Not sure how the airports there are, and whether they’d be able to support a hub, but I’m guessing the state and local governments there would be all about the infrastructure investment, development, and jobs that would come with a Delta hub move.

re: #614 Dr. Matt

Jacksonville, Florida. I don’t think they are a hub for anyone.

re: #630 Hecuba’s daughter

Florida is currently little better than Georgia where guns are concerned.

Atlanta operates 5 runways, simultaneously, Jacksonville has two, operates one at a time depending on the prevailing wind.
Jacksonville has 20 gates, Atlanta has something like 200.
I’ll stop there.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:31:26pm

re: #665 ipsos

What would THAT confirmation hearing look like, I wonder?

That’s the beauty of it; the Nat Sec Advisor doesn’t have to be confirmed.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:31:40pm

re: #666 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

no. because the press has abdicated any responsibility for doing anything but reporting public opinion as it appears in Twitter and social media. The fact that Trump got into office and has remained there this long shows us the degree of decline we are in.

We are beyond fucked.

the fact that he was not laughed and derided out of office after his “I would have gone in there unarmed” comment sealed that for me.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:32:19pm

re: #663 HappyWarrior

The latter sounds like someone we know in the WH.

sounds like EVERYONE in and associated with the WH.

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ipsos  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:32:42pm

re: #668 Big Beautiful Door

That’s the beauty of it; the Nat Sec Advisor doesn’t have to be confirmed.

Oh fuckity fuck.

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freetoken  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:33:08pm
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gwangung  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:33:28pm

re: #669 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

the fact that he was not laughed and derided out of office after his “I would have gone in there unarmed” speech sealed that for me.

Well, leaving office after derisive laughters requires shame and embarassment from the subject. That’s not Trump.

It’s the other Republicans assholes we have to worry about…

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Skip Intro  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:33:48pm
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allegro  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:34:52pm

re: #666 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

no. because the press has abdicated any responsibility for doing anything but reporting public opinion as it appears in Twitter and social media. The fact that Trump got into office and has remained there this long shows us the degree of decline we are in.

We are beyond fucked.

Perhaps you are unaware that it is Congress and not the media that has the power to remove him from office.

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dangerman  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:34:55pm

re: #649 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He is not responsible for anything he says. Nor will he be taken seriously to task by the media for his utterances.

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allegro  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:36:26pm

re: #669 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

the fact that he was not laughed and derided out of office after his “I would have gone in there unarmed” comment sealed that for me.

Then you are unaware of the laughter and derision that has been pervasive since he made that comment. Once again, you appear to be unaware of how the US government works.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:37:22pm

re: #667 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Atlanta operates 5 runways, simultaneously, Jacksonville has two, operates one at a time depending on the prevailing wind.
Jacksonville has 20 gates, Atlanta has something like 200.
I’ll stop there.

It’s called infrastructure week years.

I’ll stop there.

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MsJ  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:38:28pm

re: #667 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Atlanta operates 5 runways, simultaneously, Jacksonville has two, operates one at a time depending on the prevailing wind.
Jacksonville has 20 gates, Atlanta has something like 200.
I’ll stop there.

All true. But Atlanta also has every airline operating out of it which makes a difference. Granted, not enough to ramp up straight away but that is not saying it couldn’t.

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allegro  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:39:33pm

re: #679 MsJ

All true. But Atlanta also has every airline operating out of it which makes a difference. Granted, not enough to ramp up straight away but that is not saying it couldn’t.

If I never had to change flights at the Atlanta airport again I would take that as a big positive.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:41:24pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:42:03pm

re: #682 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Damn.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:43:37pm

See ya creep

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Belafon  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:44:13pm

re: #682 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

*Deep sigh*

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Decatur Deb  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:44:19pm

re: #672 freetoken

Trump wants to cut NOAA’s budget by 20%:

FY19 Budget Request: 20% NOAA Cut Targets Research, Forecasters

Image: fy19-noaa-budget-request.jpg

There are a bunch of pay-for-play specialized privateer weather services that have long wanted the field to themselves.

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dangerman  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:46:45pm

re: #682 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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i am sad
AND I AM MAD

this was a seventh grade 13 year old kid

WHOSE FUCKING GUN WAS IT?

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A Mom Anon  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:46:47pm

re: #667 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I would encourage anyone who thinks Delta can find a new hub outside Atlanta to just look at a recent satellite photo of how freaking huge it is. It would take a huge investment of time and money to replicate that in another location.

If the state level idiots here do go through with this asinine plan, Delta would most likely do layoffs, freeze wages and find other ways to cut expenses to make up for the loss.

Also, it might be time to apply pressure to Cabela’s. They just built one of their largest stores here north of Atlanta a year or so ago and it’s where a LOT of wingnuts buy their war toys.

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fern01  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:47:08pm

re: #532 lawhawk

From the Link

For months, there had been weekly trade meetings on Tuesdays with Navarro, Ross, Cohn, U.S. Trade Representative Robert E. Lighthizer and national security adviser H.R. McMaster.

Wonder if this was the last straw for McMaster?

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MsJ  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:47:09pm

re: #674 Skip Intro

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Decatur Deb  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:47:37pm

re: #688 dangerman

i am sad
AND I AM MAD

this was a seventh grade 13 year old kid

WHOSE FUCKING GUN WAS IT?

Law-abiding responsible good guy’s.

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dangerman  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:48:11pm

re: #687 Dr. Matt

GOP Sen Orrin Hatch: Obamacare supporters are ‘the stupidest, dumbass people I’ve ever met’

The party of family values.

“You know those words he just used. he didnt mean those words, he meant these words….”

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MsJ  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:48:12pm

re: #675 allegro

Perhaps you are unaware that it is Congress and not the media that has the power to remove him from office.

A congress which has completely abdicated its responsibility and one in which several members are way too sympathetic to a hostile foreign nation.

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ipsos  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:48:44pm

re: #679 MsJ

All true. But Atlanta also has every airline operating out of it which makes a difference. Granted, not enough to ramp up straight away but that is not saying it couldn’t.

That’s another piece of the puzzle. ATL has international flight capacity (customs, runways and gates for A380s and 787s) that would be hard to scale up at JAX or SDF or wherever.

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Skip Intro  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:49:02pm

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MsJ  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:49:37pm

re: #681 allegro

If I never had to change flights at the Atlanta airport again I would take that as a big positive.

No kidding. Hartsfield and DFW are the worst. I was on the train for so long at DFW I thought I was training it all the way to Atlanta.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:50:14pm

re: #673 gwangung

Well, leaving office after derisive laughters requires shame and embarassment from the subject. That’s not Trump.

It’s the other Republicans assholes we have to worry about…

Yes, there are enough blatant and egregious violations of the Emoluments Clause, conflicts of interests or cases of obstruction of justice they could bring him up on but they are not prepared to act at all.

The Mueller investigation is supposed to force them to act or appear complicit, but they are doing everything they can to position themselves to ignore its findings.

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allegro  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:50:54pm

re: #687 Dr. Matt

GOP Sen Orrin Hatch: Obamacare supporters are ‘the stupidest, dumbass people I’ve ever met’

The party of family values.

Well at least a whole bunch of us stupid, dumbass Obamacare people are still alive because of it. Guess if we were as smart as him we’d be sicker and dead.

Congrats to me - today I’m officially on Medicare!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:50:56pm

re: #675 allegro

Perhaps you are unaware that it is Congress and not the media that has the power to remove him from office.

and Congress is not about to act on that unless the media turns on him and the voters turn on the GOP

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Decatur Deb  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:51:37pm

re: #689 A Mom Anon

I would encourage anyone who thinks Delta can find a new hub outside Atlanta to just look at a recent satellite photo of how freaking huge it is. It would take a huge investment of time and money to replicate that in another location.

If the state level idiots here do go through with this asinine plan, Delta would most likely do layoffs, freeze wages and find other ways to cut expenses to make up for the loss.

Also, it might be time to apply pressure to Cabela’s. They just built one of their largest stores here north of Atlanta a year or so ago and it’s where a LOT of wingnuts buy their war toys.

They can redeploy a good bit of their HQ staff, maintenance, and even refueling without giving up the gate space. Our Fair Town, 40 minutes away, has a great deal of underutilized maintenance, and a strong aviation school spun off from the Army Aviation Center—Ft Rucker. Our airfield is max length, a legacy from when we had 5 fields training WWII crews.

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Skip Intro  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:51:45pm
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JordanRules  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:52:03pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:52:40pm

re: #677 allegro

Then you are unaware of the laughter and derision that has been pervasive since he made that comment. Once again, you appear to be unaware of how the US government works.

I am aware of the climate of political discourse, and the fact that Trump got into office and has remained there for as long as he has speaks volumes about how far we have declined as a democracy.

I am a complete pessimist in this respect.

Ever since “trending on Twitter” became a viable news item in itself, I have despaired for the future of democracy in the USA

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ObserverArt  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:53:11pm

re: #659 allegro

Ca we stop this please? Yes there’s rightwing media and a few MS media individuals *cough* Haberman*cough* carrying Trump’s water but when I turn on CNN and PBS Trump is trounced seriously and all of this shit is discussed. It’s certainly the case at MSNBC, Washington Post, even the Houston freaking Chronicle, and other major media outlets. This debilitating woe-is-us-we’re-DOOMED negativity isn’t doing anyone any good.

/end rant

Thank You!

I was going to post something similar, but decided not to because it wouldn’t change anything.

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Targetpractice  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:53:12pm

re: #696 Skip Intro

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In other news, all media reports on Uranium One just spontaneously combusted.

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dangerman  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:53:35pm

re: #692 Decatur Deb

Law-abiding responsible good guy.

if they were and a parent, friend, some one sold it to him - whatever

the second they lost control of that weapon to him, - jail, confiscation, loss of 2a rights, civil fines, the works

that entire school was at risk - i dont care how it turned out. the potential was there.
they should all be able to sue the gun owner.

let them all keep their guns - buy and own whatever they want

when are we going to stop screwing around and slap on some serious goddamn consequences after theyve PROVED they are reckless and dangerous??

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freetoken  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:54:13pm

Move over Conservapedia:

Without Women or Evolution: ‘Ultra-Orthodox Wikipedia’ Is Literally Rewriting History

To get started, the project’s leaders imported tens thousands of Wikipedia articles from the Hebrew-language Wikipedia and began rewriting their content according to what the editors term the ultra-Orthodox aspeklaria - from the Latin for “mirror.” Since Wikipedia is “open source”, there are no copyright issues involved.

The latter claim is not quite correct, though.

See: Text of Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported License

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MsJ  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:54:32pm

re: #695 ipsos

That’s another piece of the puzzle. ATL has international flight capacity (customs, runways and gates for A380s and 787s) that would be hard to scale up at JAX or SDF or wherever.

Delta has neither.

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teleskiguy  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:54:53pm
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MsJ  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:55:25pm

re: #699 allegro

Well at least a whole bunch of us stupid, dumbass Obamacare people are still alive because of it. Guess if we were as smart as him we’d be sicker and dead.

Congrats to me - today I’m officially on Medicare!

Congratulations, my old friend!

Wait, that came out wrong. :-D

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MsJ  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:56:34pm

re: #700 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and Congress is not about to act on that unless the media turns on him and the voters turn on the GOP

If then! They can see the shellacing they are going to take. They don’t care which makes me think they have done all they can do to rig the election. There is literally no other way I see them caring so little when the proof is in front of their faces - and they are admitting it to each other.

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teleskiguy  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:57:11pm

Giphy

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ObserverArt  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:57:30pm

re: #666 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

no. because the press has abdicated any responsibility for doing anything but reporting public opinion as it appears in Twitter and social media. The fact that Trump got into office and has remained there this long shows us the degree of decline we are in.

We are beyond fucked.

You are out of the country, right? Do you still vote in any American elections?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:57:42pm

re: #689 A Mom Anon

I would encourage anyone who thinks Delta can find a new hub outside Atlanta to just look at a recent satellite photo of how freaking huge it is. It would take a huge investment of time and money to replicate that in another location.

If the state level idiots here do go through with this asinine plan, Delta would most likely do layoffs, freeze wages and find other ways to cut expenses to make up for the loss.

Also, it might be time to apply pressure to Cabela’s. They just built one of their largest stores here north of Atlanta a year or so ago and it’s where a LOT of wingnuts buy their war toys.

Yeah, there is efficiencies in hub-spoke operations. But, once established they’re pretty much set for life. The system is bound by it’s established infrastructure. For Delta to move, someone would need to give them their flight slots. It’s like Packers season tickets.
Charlotte is American’s hub, Ain’t moving in there. Nashville is one of Southwest’s, same deal.
There’s really no major airport sitting around with excess capacity

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MsJ  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:58:07pm

re: #704 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I am aware of the climate of political discourse, and the fact that Trump got into office and has remained there for as long as he has speaks volumes about how far we have declined as a democracy.

I am a complete pessimist in this respect.

Ever since “trending on Twitter” became a viable news item in itself, I have despaired for the future of democracy in the USA

Twitter is the donut hole to Facebook’s giant birthday cake.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:59:30pm

re: #687 Dr. Matt

GOP Sen Orrin Hatch: Obamacare supporters are ‘the stupidest, dumbass people I’ve ever met’

The party of family values.

From the guy who told Trump he could be the greatest president ever. I happen to like not getting denied coverage due to my heart condition, you pompous gas bag.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 1, 2018 • 2:59:38pm

re: #714 ObserverArt

You are out of the country, right? Do you still vote in any American elections?

yes, I vote absentee in Arizona. Only for symbolic purposes for the time being, AZ will not turn blue for some time.

I would like to be optimistic about long-term developments but the current state of things really disgusts me. Trump makes unfounded utterances that are not taken to task.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 1, 2018 • 3:00:58pm

re: #716 MsJ

Twitter is the donut hole to Facebook’s giant birthday cake.

I delete political posts on FB regardless of their nature, and block or unfriend people who get too carried away. For me, FB is about friends and family, social and cultural events. If I want to discuss politics, I come to sites like this one.

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allegro  Mar 1, 2018 • 3:01:07pm

re: #711 MsJ

Congratulations, my old friend!

Wait, that came out wrong. :-D

Heh, totally cool with it. In fact I revel in it. Surviving has been one of my funnest life accomplishments. I’m having a wonderful time. :D

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HappyWarrior  Mar 1, 2018 • 3:01:44pm

re: #713 teleskiguy

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Oh snap.

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MsJ  Mar 1, 2018 • 3:03:38pm
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freetoken  Mar 1, 2018 • 3:04:39pm

In case you needed another reason to dislike “Country” music:

CMA Foundation Elects Mike Huckabee to Its Board, Huckabee Swiftly Resigns [Updated]

[…] “Governor Huckabee led an impressive administration while serving the state of Arkansas and his policy experience with education reform is something we are fortunate to be able to learn from,” says Galante in the release that accompanies the announcement of Huckabee’s election.

[…]

Also see the RollingStone story:

UPDATE 2: Following a backlash from some members of the country music industry, conservative pundit and former governor of Arkansas Mike Huckabee has resigned from the CMA Foundation’s board of directors. “The CMA Foundation has accepted former Governor Mike Huckabee’s resignation from its Board of Directors, effective immediately,” the CMA told Rolling Stone Country in a statement. Huckabee was announced as a new member of the board of the CMA’s philanthropic organization on Wednesday night.

So Huckabee was on that board for what, a whole 1.01 Mooch?

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MsJ  Mar 1, 2018 • 3:05:01pm

re: #719 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I delete political posts on FB regardless of their nature, and block or unfriend people who get too carried away. For me, FB is about friends and family, social and cultural events. If I want to discuss politics, I come to sites like this one.

For you, sure. But what I was referring to was the impact they had on the last election. They charged Clinton 10x more for ads than Trump and they allowed all kinds of fake news to be on their platform. That is what I was referring to.

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freetoken  Mar 1, 2018 • 3:05:17pm

In the Drumpf-epoch, these headlines come at you fast.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 1, 2018 • 3:05:47pm

re: #689 A Mom Anon

I would encourage anyone who thinks Delta can find a new hub outside Atlanta to just look at a recent satellite photo of how freaking huge it is. It would take a huge investment of time and money to replicate that in another location.

ATL has 4700 acres.
CVG has 7000.

And, as I said earlier, CVG is also a Delta hub. It’s also a huge cargo hub, especially with DHL and Amazon.

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fern01  Mar 1, 2018 • 3:05:48pm

re: #626 Hecuba’s daughter

Manchin has remained a Democrat even though his state is deep red. He’s no different from any other politician in terms of deciding which battles to fight. He’s better than any replacement — because they would all be GOP.

I agree - but I think holding his seat at the moment is near impossible - staying out of the argument altogether will help him more than what he is currently doing.

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majii  Mar 1, 2018 • 3:05:51pm

re: #416 mmmirele

“Back when I lived in Utah in the 1990s, there were still some old folk who still referred to anyone who wasn’t Mormon (including Jews) as “Gentiles.” I’m hoping with the Internet that has faded away.”

There are still some persons here in GA that refer to Black Americans as “colored[s”] in the 21st Century.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 1, 2018 • 3:07:18pm
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JordanRules  Mar 1, 2018 • 3:07:18pm

re: #724 MsJ

Taking ads in rubles. Embedding consultants with the 45 campaign. Lying repeatedly about their role in the Russian subversion of their platform. Etc, etc, etc…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 1, 2018 • 3:07:49pm

re: #724 MsJ

For you, sure. But what I was referring to was the impact they had on the last election. They charged Clinton 10x more for ads than Trump and they allowed all kinds of fake news to be on their platform. That is what I was referring to.

The fact that FB became a source for news stories and a place for political ads was another development that caused me to despair for the future of our republic.

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MsJ  Mar 1, 2018 • 3:08:43pm

re: #731 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The fact that FB became a source for news stories and a place for political ads was another development that caused me to despair for the future of our republic.

The only positive thing I think came from that is we can kiss a Mark Zuckerberg run for POTUS goodbye.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 1, 2018 • 3:09:15pm

re: #689 A Mom Anon

I would encourage anyone who thinks Delta can find a new hub outside Atlanta to just look at a recent satellite photo of how freaking huge it is. It would take a huge investment of time and money to replicate that in another location.

If the state level idiots here do go through with this asinine plan, Delta would most likely do layoffs, freeze wages and find other ways to cut expenses to make up for the loss.

Also, it might be time to apply pressure to Cabela’s. They just built one of their largest stores here north of Atlanta a year or so ago and it’s where a LOT of wingnuts buy their war toys.

Chicago has an 8.5 billion dollar expansion planned for O’Hare. I bet we could handle this!

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MsJ  Mar 1, 2018 • 3:13:55pm

I would love for Delta and/or Amazon to come out and say that they can’t go to or stay in Republican held states because they are too unstable and provide too much uncertainty. The (free) market hates uncertainty.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 1, 2018 • 3:13:56pm

re: #726 Backwoods_Sleuth

ATL has 4700 acres.
CVG has 7000.

And, as I said earlier, CVG is also a Delta hub. It’s also a huge cargo hub, especially with DHL and Amazon.

O’Hare is 7200 acres. I know that Delta won’t relocate here — but one can dream!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 1, 2018 • 3:14:25pm

re: #733 Hecuba’s daughter

Chicago has an 8.5 billion dollar expansion planned for O’Hare. I bet we could handle this!

Chicago is a hub for both American and United, it’s expansion is to meet it’s current & future forecasted needs. Which didn’t include a hub for Delta

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teleskiguy  Mar 1, 2018 • 3:16:57pm

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MsJ  Mar 1, 2018 • 3:19:07pm

I wonder if my cable provider will let me watch Jeopardy tonight. Cable went out the last two nights right when Jeopardy was on or coming on.

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JordanRules  Mar 1, 2018 • 3:19:08pm
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gocart mozart  Mar 1, 2018 • 3:20:03pm
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ObserverArt  Mar 1, 2018 • 3:21:00pm

re: #729 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Spritzed??? He must have sprayed the whole damn can/bottle to get that kind of explosion.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 1, 2018 • 3:22:56pm

re: #741 ObserverArt

Spritzed??? He must have sprayed the whole damn can/bottle to get that kind of explosion.

My thoughts exactly

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JordanRules  Mar 1, 2018 • 3:23:49pm

re: #740 gocart mozart

Michael Jackson has a real voice too. That soft, effeminate voice one usually associates with him was not the real deal.

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JordanRules  Mar 1, 2018 • 3:25:03pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 1, 2018 • 3:27:17pm

re: #723 freetoken

In case you didn’t need another reason to dislike “Country” music:

CMA Foundation Elects Mike Huckabee to Its Board, Huckabee Swiftly Resigns [Updated]

Also see the RollingStone story:

So Huckabee was on that board for what, a whole 1.01 Mooch?

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MsJ  Mar 1, 2018 • 3:29:45pm

re: #744 JordanRules

I think by the end of Trump’s reign, a whole bunch of Republicans will say they never heard of trump, they didn’t vote for him but are sure he isn’t a republican.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 1, 2018 • 3:30:06pm

OK, reality is that Delta doesn’t have any real options to move their hub operations out of Atlanta. Nor can they up and move their primary maintenance facility from there. Now, I bet Detroit, Minneapolis-Saint Paul and Salt Lake City would love to welcome their headquarters. I don’t see NY, LA, or Sea-Tac as options due to high property costs.

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ObserverArt  Mar 1, 2018 • 3:30:42pm

re: #745 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Oh yeah, those idiots are gonna shut down the CMA. I bet that association is made up of pure leftists and progressives.

Jeebus…how far can wacky go?

Wait, don’t answer that.

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teleskiguy  Mar 1, 2018 • 3:31:49pm

brb, computer needs to restart

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freetoken  Mar 1, 2018 • 3:32:48pm

re: #747 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

The loss of the tax credits just means that the Delta execs, who I bet most would woo Republicans as their stooges, will have less money to throw around.

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whitebeach  Mar 1, 2018 • 3:34:22pm

Am I nightmaring, ministroking, or both? Just heard on NPR that Kellyanne Conway is going to be in charge of the opioid war. Can this be real?

Also that approx. half of U.S. aluminum is imported from Canada, whose trade minister today called Trump’s tariff madness “unacceptable.”

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Decatur Deb  Mar 1, 2018 • 3:35:40pm

re: #747 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

OK, reality is that Delta doesn’t have any real options to move their hub operations out of Atlanta. Nor can they up and move their primary maintenance facility from there. Now, I bet Detroit, Minneapolis-Saint Paul and Salt Lake City would love to welcome their headquarters. I don’t see NY, LA, or Sea-Tac as options due to high property costs.

Bet they bias their refueling strategy to stops with the cheapest go-juice.

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freetoken  Mar 1, 2018 • 3:36:46pm

re: #751 whitebeach

Perhaps Conway is going to supervise the executioners?

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MsJ  Mar 1, 2018 • 3:38:08pm

re: #751 whitebeach

Am I nightmaring, ministroking, or both? Just heard on NPR that Kellyanne Conway is going to be in charge of the opioid war. Can this be real?

Also that approx. half of U.S. aluminum is imported from Canada, whose trade minister today called Trump’s tariff madness “unacceptable.”

That was announced weeks ago.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 1, 2018 • 3:38:35pm
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ObserverArt  Mar 1, 2018 • 3:38:48pm

William Kristol is on Ari Melber and he just said he thinks Hope Hicks and Josh Raffel left the White House due to the pressure Mueller put on them with his interviews. He is thinking Mueller told them if they stay in the White House they will continue to be swept up in the mess. It would be better for them to leave and work with the investigation.

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MsJ  Mar 1, 2018 • 3:40:49pm

re: #756 ObserverArt

William Kristol is on Ari Melber and he just said he thinks Hope Hicks and Josh Raffel left the White House due to the pressure Mueller put on them with his interviews. He is thinking Mueller told them if they stay in the White House they will continue to be swept up in the mess. It would be better for them to leave and work with the investigation.

I hope whatever Mueller is doing he does it before trump collapses our economy and nukes the shit out of our (once) allies.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 1, 2018 • 3:42:12pm

re: #756 ObserverArt

William Kristol is on Ari Melber and he just said he thinks Hope Hicks and Josh Raffel left the White House due to the pressure Mueller put on them with his interviews. He is thinking Mueller told them if they stay in the White House they will continue to be swept up in the mess. It would be better for them to leave and work with the investigation.

Maybe her mother told her she should be ashamed of herself. And she should call more often.

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 1, 2018 • 3:42:17pm

re: #558 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He is in our house he needs to answer our fucking questions or get the fuck out of our house.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 1, 2018 • 3:42:22pm

Justice Department ‘reviewing’ Oakland mayor’s tipoff of immigration raids, White House says

The White House on Thursday said the Department of Justice was reviewing the actions of Oakland Mayor Libby Schaaf, who last weekend alerted residents in advance of an Immigration and Customs Enforcement raid in Northern California.

“I think it’s outrageous that a mayor would circumvent federal authorities and certainly put them in danger by making a move such as that,” White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders told reporters.

She said Schaaf’s actions were under “review” but would not be more specific.

Schaaf has defended her statement, saying she felt it was her duty to warn residents of the ICE action.

snip

“The Oakland mayor’s decision to publicize her suspicions about ICE operations further increased that risk for my officers and alerted criminal aliens — making clear that this reckless decision was based on her political agenda with the very federal laws that ICE is sworn to uphold,” ICE’s acting director, Thomas D. Homan, said in a statement Tuesday.

Speaking on “Fox and Friends,” Homan added that the mayor’s warning helped an estimated 800 “criminal aliens” avoid capture. He also said federal authorities were examining her actions.

“What she did is no better than a gang lookout yelling ‘police’ when a police cruiser comes in the neighborhood, except she did it to a whole community. This is beyond the pale,” he said.

terrible, awful people in the WH

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Decatur Deb  Mar 1, 2018 • 3:43:14pm

Because Puerto Rico hasn’t been fucked enough:

Puerto Rico says Treasury abruptly cutting $4.7 billion relief loan to $2 billion
cbsnews.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 1, 2018 • 3:45:19pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 1, 2018 • 3:45:57pm

re: #752 Decatur Deb

Bet they bias their refueling strategy to stops with the cheapest go-juice.

Oh yeah, they’ll look at the fuel costs at the other end of the spoke, but they’ll have to way that against inflight weight penalties of carrying max fuel at times rather than minimum margins plus. Ant, they’ll be stuck full tanking their west coast non-stops and internationals.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 1, 2018 • 3:47:30pm

re: #763 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Oh yeah, they’ll look at the fuel costs at the other end of the spoke, but they’ll have to way that against inflight weight penalties of carrying max fuel at times rather than minimum margins plus. Ant, they’ll be stuck full tanking their west coast non-stops and internationals.

“Is this a non-stop flight?”

“Oh, I hope so.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 1, 2018 • 3:48:53pm
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freetoken  Mar 1, 2018 • 3:52:30pm

re: #762 Backwoods_Sleuth

See for yourself, where ships are right now:

marinetraffic.com

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MsJ  Mar 1, 2018 • 3:53:01pm

Now this is something that might move the yam.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 1, 2018 • 3:55:12pm

At this point my money is on Tillerson being the next to go.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 1, 2018 • 3:55:29pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 1, 2018 • 3:56:36pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 1, 2018 • 3:58:03pm
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ObserverArt  Mar 1, 2018 • 3:58:12pm

re: #768 Eclectic Cyborg

At this point my money is on Tillerson being the next to go.

Seems Gary Cohn is in the running too. Several reports I’ve heard that he is far from happy with Donny Tariff. There is already speculation he will resign.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 1, 2018 • 3:58:28pm

re: #762 Backwoods_Sleuth

Sheldon Whitehouse

@SenWhitehouse
Battle royal ahead as foreign interests (particularly China) loot the world’s oceans beyond capacity to recover. washingtonpost.com
5:43 PM - Mar 1, 2018

New maps show the utterly massive imprint of fishing on the world’s oceans
There are so many ships fishing the ocean that they’re now “traveling to the Moon and back 600 times.”
washingtonpost.com

This is what gives me nightmares— the destruction of our oceans. Like climate change, unless we stop this soon, we may not be able to recover from the damage.

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Belafon  Mar 1, 2018 • 3:59:07pm

Are you awake, Charles?

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ipsos  Mar 1, 2018 • 4:02:23pm

re: #774 Belafon

Are you awake, Charles?

One of my fears (no, really!) is that something will happen to Charles, no new thread will be posted, and we’ll all keep slogging along 12,000 comments deep in the last thread that ever existed here.

Is it possible to create an automatic new-thread poster that will kick in every 24 hours if there’s no new content?

(And no, I’m not wishing any harm to come to our beloved host!)

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Mar 1, 2018 • 4:03:39pm

My iPad is not happy with this thread….

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Interesting Times  Mar 1, 2018 • 4:04:35pm

re: #774 Belafon

Are you awake, Charles?

I see him in the “Show Users” box.

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Targetpractice  Mar 1, 2018 • 4:05:11pm

re: #774 Belafon

Are you awake, Charles?

Ground control to Major Tom…

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ObserverArt  Mar 1, 2018 • 4:05:40pm

It’s Politico, so takes that for what it is worth…but here is current thinking on Trump’s Economic Advisor Gary Cohn.

Politico - Trump’s tariff war nudges Cohn toward White House exit

The president’s top economic adviser lost a battle to prevent the imposition of steep tariffs pushed by protectionist advisers.

Gary Cohn, President Donald Trump’s top economic adviser, has been rumored to be on the brink of leaving the White House for months but stayed for one main reason: to stop the president from imposing steep tariffs.

By Thursday afternoon, Cohn had lost the fight.

In a meeting with steel industry executives, Trump announced plans for a 25 percent tariff on steel imports and a 10 percent tariff on aluminum imports.

The decision came after a frantic 24 hours in which Cohn and others tried to walk Trump off the ledge. At one point, aides were sure Trump would make the announcement. Then they said he wouldn’t. Finally, sitting alongside steel executives, he did.

The Dow promptly tanked over 500 points, and Cohn’s allies began wondering if this would be the final insult sending the director of the National Economic Council to the exit.

One person close to Cohn, a former Goldman Sachs executive, said he wouldn’t be surprised if he eventually left the chaotic and deeply exhausting administration as a result of the decision. A second person close to Cohn described it as a brutal blow that violated one of the NEC director’s core beliefs—that protectionism is economically backward and won’t lead to increased prosperity.

“It’s just something he feels very passionate about and he is incredibly good at making the case,” this person said, adding that it still isn’t clear if Trump’s decision would be enough to drive out Cohn.

…more at link…

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Scout  Mar 1, 2018 • 4:10:42pm

re: #744 JordanRules

It took me a full minute to get that joke, but when I did I laughed like a crazy person.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 1, 2018 • 4:14:48pm