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1
HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2018 • 7:38:27pm

Sorry to go OT but two things, see Three Billboards Outside Edding, Missouri. And Trump really fucking said that?!?

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Skip Intro  Mar 3, 2018 • 7:41:00pm

re: #1 HappyWarrior

Clue us in.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 3, 2018 • 7:42:27pm

re: #1 HappyWarrior

Sorry to go OT but two things, see Three Billboards Outside Edding, Missouri. And Trump really fucking said that?!?

I really liked it, though I thought the town itself looked like an artist’s rendition of an Ozark town.

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jaunte  Mar 3, 2018 • 7:44:16pm

Utah lawmakers, unaware of rhyme, meter, and rhythm.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Mar 3, 2018 • 7:46:24pm

Carryover ‘cause I posted at the end of the last thread

re: #259 The Major

Back then we knew how to build shit. These days, we’d rather outsource it….

When the Hoover dam was built, materials were expensive; labor was cheap. You added flourishes to all architecture, even utilitarian .

Now, materials are cheap and labor is expensive. Buildings get put up as fast as possible to save on labor; everyday utilitarian buildings tend to not to get those flourishes.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 3, 2018 • 7:47:03pm

re: #1 HappyWarrior

Sorry to go OT but two things, see Three Billboards Outside Edding, Missouri. And Trump really fucking said that?!?

It was my favorite movie of the year — I’ve seen most of the nominees and IMHO this was the best.

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teleskiguy  Mar 3, 2018 • 7:49:02pm

Ugh! I tweeted about this fuckin’ horrible piece of music two days ago. It’s the worst! The worst rap ever.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 3, 2018 • 7:50:23pm

re: #1 HappyWarrior

And Trump really fucking said that?!?

I didn’t believe it either until I went to the CNN web site. This statement should be weaponized and used against Trump and (hopefully) the entire Republican party.

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A dark and stormy covfefe  Mar 3, 2018 • 7:52:16pm

How ‘bout some good news? Bye bye, quack!

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 3, 2018 • 7:53:39pm

re: #9 A dark and stormy covfefe

??? Who is healthranger????

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teleskiguy  Mar 3, 2018 • 7:54:51pm

re: #10 Hecuba’s daughter

??? Who is healthranger????

A quack whack-a-loon, if their name is being shared here in that context.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 3, 2018 • 7:54:53pm
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A dark and stormy covfefe  Mar 3, 2018 • 7:56:30pm

re: #10 Hecuba’s daughter

rationalwiki.org

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teleskiguy  Mar 3, 2018 • 7:56:38pm

re: #12 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

That’s a good real world physical troll. My applause.

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dangerman  Mar 3, 2018 • 8:01:25pm

I want to fulfill my new years resolution and play every video posted here
And I try not to prejudge

But nope
Apparently i do have limits

That moranic Friday video ..which I did play once

And this one that I won’t.
Utah lawmakers and rap in the same sentence. Nope.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Mar 3, 2018 • 8:02:02pm

re: #13 A dark and stormy covfefe

rationalwiki.org

Ahh! The well-known germ denialist and opponent of soap and water.

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BeachDem  Mar 3, 2018 • 8:03:54pm

Nailed it:

Over the course of his life and career, from guns, to health care, to abortion, to the Iraq War, to whether the federal government’s monthly employment numbers are “phony,” Trump hasn’t been even close to the get-it-done, never-back-down, super negotiator of his own daydreams. As near as I can tell, his deepest convictions are that the best steak is an overcooked one and that there’s nothing that doesn’t look better with his name, in all-caps, appended to it.

washingtonpost.com

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plansbandc  Mar 3, 2018 • 8:05:16pm

re: #15 dangerman

Yeah. I can’t do it either.

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whitebeach  Mar 3, 2018 • 8:06:33pm

I must have closed out or nearly closed out a couple of hundred threads and only once dragged my immortal musings over to the next one, but I’m doing it here because it’s sorta relevant to the topic and because, IMHO, it’s important:

re: #250 stpaulbear

YouTube rabbit hole time:

Desmond Dekker & The Aces - Israelites (1969). This was a pretty big hit, even with the line “Wife and my kids, they fuck off and-a leave me…”

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Video

Aw, man, everybody I knew in San Francisco at that time loved this song.

But you don’t need YouTube to go down a musical rabbit hole. I just watched an insurance commercial in which a woman had dented a fender of her car. The music expressing her agony was Nirvana’s “Love Hurts.” Opinions may vary greatly, but to me this is one of the most original and most haunting songs on the theme of love ever made.

Jesus not only wept, but in the next verse he said, “Dad, can’t we do something about these fucking philistines?”

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Mar 3, 2018 • 8:08:12pm

For some time now (ca. 20 years) top quacks have been warning that Big Pharma was about to start rounding up anti-vaxxers and sending them to FEMA camp.

Gee, imagine what disease-ridden pestholes those will be.

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Skip Intro  Mar 3, 2018 • 8:08:44pm

re: #17 BeachDem

Trump is a closet Democrat?

I think not.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2018 • 8:09:50pm

re: #2 Skip Intro

Clue us in.

The movie is about a mother putting up billboards to bring attention to her daughter’s murder and the lack of progress by the police. Well filmed and acted.

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MsJ  Mar 3, 2018 • 8:10:39pm

re: #9 A dark and stormy covfefe

How ‘bout some good news? Bye bye, quack!

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What’s a health ranger?

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Ace-o-aces  Mar 3, 2018 • 8:11:48pm
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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Mar 3, 2018 • 8:12:18pm

re: #23 MsJ

What’s a health ranger?

Big Woo. See #13.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2018 • 8:13:05pm

re: #8 Hecuba’s daughter

I didn’t believe it either until I went to the CNN web site. This statement should be weaponized and used against Trump and (hopefully) the entire Republican party.

Yes it should be.

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MsJ  Mar 3, 2018 • 8:13:29pm

re: #21 Skip Intro

Trump is a closet Democrat?

I think not.

Trump doesn’t know enough to be either.

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JordanRules  Mar 3, 2018 • 8:24:38pm

re: #6 Hecuba’s daughter

I just saw Lady Bird today and enjoyed that.

I imagine the Oscars won’t flub the Best Picture announcement again tomorrow.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 3, 2018 • 8:27:05pm

re: #24 Ace-o-aces

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 3, 2018 • 8:28:14pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 3, 2018 • 8:29:19pm

Meanwhile—Who won THE RAZZIES(r)…

38TH Razzie Award Winners!

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BeachDem  Mar 3, 2018 • 8:30:59pm

re: #21 Skip Intro

Trump is a closet Democrat?

I think not.

Yeah, some of Rick’s analysis is idiotic, and I still don’t trust him, but that paragraph did stand out as “the troof.”

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dirkdigglerjr  Mar 3, 2018 • 8:36:19pm

Yes, it is time for a bit of March Madness, courtesy of the Section 1 Class A championship in New York.

The McGarvey Miracle

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BeachDem  Mar 3, 2018 • 8:37:44pm

A nice story—because we need/deserve one:

Two years after he was fatally shot by a police officer in Minnesota, Philando Castile is still helping students afford lunch.

A charity created in Castile’s honor has paid off the lunch debt for every student in the 56 schools in the St. Paul Public School District, including the school where Castile worked as a cafeteria supervisor.

huffingtonpost.com

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2018 • 8:38:38pm

re: #34 BeachDem

A nice story—because we need/deserve one:

Two years after he was fatally shot by a police officer in Minnesota, Philando Castile is still helping students afford lunch.

A charity created in Castile’s honor has paid off the lunch debt for every student in the 56 schools in the St. Paul Public School District, including the school where Castile worked as a cafeteria supervisor.

huffingtonpost.com

Beautiful. He’d be happy to see that.

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Targetpractice  Mar 3, 2018 • 8:39:00pm

re: #30 goddamnedfrank

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jaunte  Mar 3, 2018 • 8:40:17pm

SNL tonight, featuring Jefferson Beauregard Sessions and that other guy.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 3, 2018 • 8:44:32pm

OK, that’s funny.
But, it’s also a pretty dick move.

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Targetpractice  Mar 3, 2018 • 8:45:34pm

At this point, do we really need to point out that Obama saying anything that sounded like “I wanna be president-for-life” would have sent millions of wingnuts into the stratosphere with rage? That every Republican would be so incandescent with rage that they could serve as a spotlight? And that “serious” pundits would be burning up a lot of ink and pixels ranting about how he was entertaining tyrannical ideas totally at odds with the Founders?

FFS, “IOKIYAR” is gonna be the death of this republic.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2018 • 8:47:11pm

re: #39 Targetpractice

At this point, do we really need to point out that Obama saying anything that sounded like “I wanna be president-for-life” would have sent millions of wingnuts into the stratosphere with rage? That every Republican would be so incandescent with rage that they could serve as a spotlight? And that “serious” pundits would be burning up a lot of ink and pixels ranting about how he was entertaining tyrannical ideas totally at odds with the Founders?

FFS, “IOKIYAR” is gonna be the death of this republic.

I just can’t wait to hear from all the supposed anti communist how Trump praising this isn’t so bad or how Obama doing what he did with Cuba is equivalent.

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dirkdigglerjr  Mar 3, 2018 • 8:47:49pm

re: #31 Joe Bacon 🌹

Congrats, I guess, to the Emoji Movie. Blehhhhhhhhhhhh….

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Amory Blaine  Mar 3, 2018 • 8:53:16pm

Morning Spin: $50,000 gets ‘gold’ sponsorship of Rauner dinner featuring Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker

Republican Gov. Bruce Rauner and the state GOP already are planning past his March 20 primary race against state Rep. Jeanne Ives, announcing a fundraising dinner in April featuring Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker.

Tickets for the fourth annual Illinois Republican Party Governor’s Dinner in Chicago start at $500 per person and go all the way up to $50,000 for the honor of being a “gold sponsor.” That includes four tickets to a “private roundtable,” 10 reception tickets with a photo and a “premium” table for 10 for dinner, according to an invitation.

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Ace-o-aces  Mar 3, 2018 • 8:59:40pm

What part of “4” confuses him?

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plansbandc  Mar 3, 2018 • 9:00:53pm
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Dave In Austin  Mar 3, 2018 • 9:01:51pm
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 3, 2018 • 9:09:06pm

re: #45 Dave In Austin

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 3, 2018 • 9:13:58pm

re: #17 BeachDem

But notice that Mr. Wilson claims that Trump is really a Democrat. Lol. Trump would never have made it past the early set of primary races if he had run as a Democrat.

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The Major  Mar 3, 2018 • 9:13:58pm

re: #7 teleskiguy

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The Major  Mar 3, 2018 • 9:16:29pm

re: #9 A dark and stormy covfefe

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stpaulbear  Mar 3, 2018 • 9:17:23pm

re: #47 Patricia Kayden

But notice that Mr. Wilson claims that Trump is really a Democrat. Lol. Trump would never have made it past the early set of primary races if he had run as a Democrat.

He’s getting hammered in the comments for that. Good. Republicans elected him and still support him with their actions, no matter what they try to say.

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The Major  Mar 3, 2018 • 9:20:57pm

re: #24 Ace-o-aces

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wheat-dogg  Mar 3, 2018 • 9:21:18pm

Speaking of potentially-president-for-life Xi Jinping, it seems the government is imposing new rules on delegates to the national party congress, meeting in Beijing now.

No cellphones.
No talking.
No comments.
No talking to the media.

scmp.com

The body generally just rubber stamps the government’s proposals anyway, but this time it seems the rulers want to quash any possible dissent, or appearance of same.

FWIW some politicians and intellectuals in China have warned against a cult of personality developing around Xi, but their warnings have gone unheeded, either because of complacency or fear. I doubt the elimination of term limits for the presidency will be contested, and Xi will be allowed to rule past 2023 (the 10th year in office). I do not plan to be in China that long.

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The Major  Mar 3, 2018 • 9:24:57pm

re: #43 Ace-o-aces

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2018 • 9:25:06pm

re: #43 Ace-o-aces

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What part of “4” confuses him?

Lol. Not triggered. Laughing at how stupid you are Pizza man.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2018 • 9:26:52pm

re: #50 stpaulbear

He’s getting hammered in the comments for that. Good. Republicans elected him and still support him with their actions, no matter what they try to say.

Yep I like Rick more than most Republicans but that was a pathetic claim. Trump is a Republican and Republicans are responsible for Trump. Sooner Rick accepts this, the better.

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whitebeach  Mar 3, 2018 • 9:30:18pm

re: #39 Targetpractice

At this point, do we really need to point out that Obama saying anything that sounded like “I wanna be president-for-life” would have sent millions of wingnuts into the stratosphere with rage? That every Republican would be so incandescent with rage that they could serve as a spotlight? And that “serious” pundits would be burning up a lot of ink and pixels ranting about how he was entertaining tyrannical ideas totally at odds with the Founders?

FFS, “IOKIYAR” is gonna be the death of this republic.

The very definition of wingnuts, which at this point includes roughly 90% of the Republican party, is that they can’t possibly recognize, much less understand, what you’re saying here. They are at this point as immune to facts and logic as certain deadly dangerous bacteria are to antibiotics. Confronted with your message, which is undeniable to reasoning people, their programmed mentality defends itself with “But her emails!” or “Monica!” or “He’s a Muslim who hates America!” or just “MAGA! USA USA USA!”

I always thought I didn’t like zombie flicks because they were just plain stupid, but I’m beginning to think that I don’t like them because they represent the idiocy that thinking people have to face every freakin day in what our country has become.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 3, 2018 • 9:32:41pm

re: #55 HappyWarrior

Yep I like Rick more than most Republicans but that was a pathetic claim. Trump is a Republican and Republicans are responsible for Trump. Sooner Rick accepts this, the better.

Trump’s only party loyalty is to Trump himself. He likely hung out with Democrats, because he thought it would ingratiate him with entertainment moguls. He ran as a Republican, because (as he is quoted as saying) Republicans are stupid and would vote for him. Right now, he espouses policies more akin to Republican than Democratic policies, but those could change depending on who last spoke with him.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 3, 2018 • 9:34:34pm

re: #55 HappyWarrior

Donald Trump is what he’s been consistently: a man who uses a standard set of flashiness, braggadocio posturing, lies, and emotional appeal to obtain what he wants…and what he wants is deference from others and to be able to actualize his whims. Con men change identities and affiliations effortlessly, finding an angle to work. Why, this time, is the angle that works “what’s already been working when it was executed by Nixon, Reagan, Gingrich, Limbaugh, etc.”? Not a mystery.

What Wilson fails to grok is that the Republican Party, as an institution, and the Republican base are willing to participate in that nihilism and that matters more than whatever label Trump attempts to appropriate.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 3, 2018 • 9:35:03pm

Mom Anon,

I’m sorry to hear about your hub’s troubles. I hope things improve soon.

—-

Wow, YouTube brings down the banhammer on Jerome Corsi of Infowars and Mike Adams (Health Ranger) of Natural News in a couple days of each other.

Think they can start cleaning out the Nazis next?

Corsi’s channel has been restored, but all the videos are gone. In the discussion section of his channel the deafening cries of Freeze Peach! are all over the comments, suggesting he should sue YouTube (good luck with that).

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wheat-dogg  Mar 3, 2018 • 9:35:19pm

re: #56 whitebeach

I always thought I didn’t like zombie flicks because they were just plain stupid, but I’m beginning to think that I don’t like them because they represent the idiocy that thinking people have to face every freakin day in what our country has become.

I suspect the creators of these zombie flicks had that similarity in mind. Certainly dealing with idiots on Twitter resembles a never-ending battle with mindless, ravening hordes of the undead.

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whitebeach  Mar 3, 2018 • 9:35:50pm

re: #57 wheat-dogg

Trump’s only party loyalty is to Trump himself. He likely hung out with Democrats, because he thought it would ingratiate him with entertainment moguls. He ran as a Republican, because (as he is quoted as saying) Republicans are stupid and would vote for him. Right now, he espouses policies more akin to Republican than Democratic policies, but those could change depending on who last spoke with him.

The Trump family has been a vicious criminal enterprise for at least three generations. That is all ye know and all ye need to know.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 3, 2018 • 9:36:03pm

re: #55 HappyWarrior

Yep I like Rick more than most Republicans but that was a pathetic claim. Trump is a Republican and Republicans are responsible for Trump. Sooner Rick accepts this, the better.

It was DARVO. Rick can’t admit to himself that he and other establishment Republicans happily condoned decades of deliberate, ever worsening racial resentment within the GOP. So of course he must externalize the man who charmed their Frankenstein’s monster away from their control and casts that man as a “Democrat.”

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2018 • 9:36:05pm

re: #57 wheat-dogg

Trump’s only party loyalty is to Trump himself. He likely hung out with Democrats, because he thought it would ingratiate him with entertainment moguls. He ran as a Republican, because (as he is quoted as saying) Republicans are stupid and would vote for him. Right now, he espouses policies more akin to Republican than Democratic policies, but those could change depending on who last spoke with him.

True I agree he has no principles but Wilson needs to accept his rise as president and presidential aspirant is entirely on the party Rick made his bones with. It just rings as an excuse and suggesting that GOP voters don’t embrace Trump and Trumpism when they have.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 3, 2018 • 9:36:15pm

re: #55 HappyWarrior

Yep I like Rick more than most Republicans but that was a pathetic claim. Trump is a Republican and Republicans are responsible for Trump. Sooner Rick accepts this, the better.

Trump was nominated by Republicans and elected by Republicans, racists, religious fanatics, and desperate naive people who bought his lies about the economy. He never would have been nominated by Democrats. But he himself is not truly a Republican or a Democrat. He has no political beliefs whatsoever. He wants to be dictator, worshiped, and wealthy. Nothing else is of any interest to him.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2018 • 9:36:40pm

re: #62 goddamnedfrank

Lunch debt.

It was DARVO. Rick can’t admit to himself that he and other establishment Republicans happily condoned decades of deliberate, ever worsening racial resentment within the GOP. So of course he must externalize the man who charmed their Frankenstein’s monster away from their control and casts that man as a “Democrat.”

Yes, well said.

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retired cynic  Mar 3, 2018 • 9:37:27pm

re: #64 Hecuba’s daughter

Trump was nominated by Republicans and elected by Republicans, racists, religious fanatics, and desperate naive people who bought his lies about the economy. He never would have been nominated by Democrats. But he himself is not truly a Republican or a Democrat. He has no political beliefs whatsoever. He wants to be dictator, worshiped, and wealthy. Nothing else is of any interest to him.

That’s it!

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2018 • 9:37:47pm

re: #58 The Ghost of a Flea

Donald Trump is what he’s been consistently: a man who uses a standard set of flashiness, braggadocio posturing, lies, and emotional appeal to obtain what he wants…and what he wants is deference from others and to be able to actualize his whims. Con men change identities and affiliations effortlessly, finding an angle to work. Why, this time, is the angle that works “what’s already been working when it was executed by Nixon, Reagan, Gingrich, Limbaugh, etc.”? Not a mystery.

What Wilson fails to grok is that the Republican Party, as an institution, and the Republican base are willing to participate in that nihilism and that matters more than whatever label Trump attempts to appropriate.

Well said.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 3, 2018 • 9:38:32pm

re: #62 goddamnedfrank

re: #64 Hecuba’s daughter

Trump openly says what most Republicans only think internally, or whisper among themselves. He found a home in the GOP because they believe what he apparently believes. I can’t understand why Wilson cannot see something so obvious.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2018 • 9:38:32pm

re: #64 Hecuba’s daughter

Trump was nominated by Republicans and elected by Republicans, racists, religious fanatics, and desperate naive people who bought his lies about the economy. He never would have been nominated by Democrats. But he himself is not truly a Republican or a Democrat. He has no political beliefs whatsoever. He wants to be dictator, worshiped, and wealthy. Nothing else is of any interest to him.

Absolutely which makes Wilson’s Democrat claim all the more absurd.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 3, 2018 • 9:38:59pm

re: #55 HappyWarrior

Yep I like Rick more than most Republicans but that was a pathetic claim. Trump is a Republican and Republicans are responsible for Trump. Sooner Rick accepts this, the better.

He’ll be memory-holed as “not a real Republican” much like GW Bush was.

Conservatism can only be failed, because it’s a religion. The claim is much like “no true Christian.”

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2018 • 9:39:56pm

re: #68 wheat-dogg

Trump openly says what most Republicans only think internally, or whisper among themselves. He found a home in the GOP because they believe what he apparently believes. I can’t understand why Wilson cannot see something so obvious.

Because it would mean admitting he worked for a racist know nothing Party and that conservative saints like Reagan, Buckley, & others own that too. Wilson may be right about Trump but he’s still a Republican.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2018 • 9:41:13pm

re: #70 Anymouse 🌹

He’ll be memory-holed as “not a real Republican” much like GW Bush was.

Conservatism can only be failed, because it’s a religion. The claim is much like “no true Christian.”

No True Scotsman is the fallacy here but yes.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 3, 2018 • 9:41:24pm

re: #64 Hecuba’s daughter

Trump was nominated by Republicans and elected by Republicans, racists, religious fanatics, and desperate naive people who bought his lies about the economy. He never would have been nominated by Democrats. But he himself is not truly a Republican or a Democrat. He has no political beliefs whatsoever. He wants to be dictator, worshiped, and wealthy. Nothing else is of any interest to him.

I beg to differ. That describes most Republican politicians in my lifetime. That is conservatism (thus the current GOP). See also Mitch McConnell, Paul Ryan, &c.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 3, 2018 • 9:41:48pm

Sorry, got sidetracked by the fuckery. This is what “lunch debt” was supposed to refer to. As in it’s fucked up that such a thing even exists in this country.

Also, it’s as good a time as any to remind everyone that the NRA said fuck all about Castile’s murder by a police officer because in practical terms they’re just another conservative group incapable of viewing black men as legal gun owners who don’t deserve to be killed by cops for no good reason.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 3, 2018 • 9:43:44pm

re: #72 HappyWarrior

No True Scotsman is the fallacy here but yes.

You don’t know how many times I’ve heard “he’s no true Christian.” While the fallacy is named after the alleged Scotsman, I see it most used in Christian sects arguing each other, or trying to throw one of their own under a bus when he or she does something wrong.

How many Christians now claim Roy Moore is “not a true Christian?”

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2018 • 9:44:20pm

re: #74 goddamnedfrank

Sorry, got sidetracked by the fuckery. This is what “lunch debt” was supposed to refer to. As in it’s fucked up that such a thing even exists in this country.

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Also, it’s as good a time as any to remind everyone that the NRA said fuck all about Castille’s murder by a police officer because in practical terms they’re just another conservative group incapable of viewing black men as legal gun owners who don’t deserve to be killed by cops for no good reason.

If I recall Frank, they did one worse, Dana blamed him for his death because marijuana means you deserve death to those fuckwads.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 3, 2018 • 9:46:25pm

re: #76 HappyWarrior

If I recall Frank, they did one worse, Dana blamed him for his death because marijuana means you deserve death to those fuckwads.

Running theme: they get to dictate who deserved it. That’s all there is to their entire worldview.

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The Major  Mar 3, 2018 • 9:46:32pm

re: #52 wheat-dogg

FWIW some politicians and intellectuals in China have warned against a cult of personality developing around Xi, but their warnings have gone unheeded, either because of complacency or fear. I doubt the elimination of term limits for the presidency will be contested, and Xi will be allowed to rule past 2023 (the 10th year in office.

And they will pay a heavy price for that transgression - witness Stalin and WW II….

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2018 • 9:46:38pm

re: #75 Anymouse 🌹

You don’t know how many times I’ve heard “he’s no true Christian.” While the fallacy is named after the alleged Scotsman, I see it most used in Christian sects arguing each other, or trying to throw one of their own under a bus when he or she does something wrong.

How many Christians now claim Roy Moore is “not a true Christian?”

You’re being far too literal here. I’m definitely familiar with it being used with Christianity. Just the fallacy itself is called No True Scotsman. Kinda like Red Herring.

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Belafon  Mar 3, 2018 • 9:46:45pm

re: #30 goddamnedfrank

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majii  Mar 3, 2018 • 9:47:02pm

re: #39 Targetpractice

“At this point, do we really need to point out that Obama saying anything that sounded like “I wanna be president-for-life” would have sent millions of wingnuts into the stratosphere with rage? That every Republican would be so incandescent with rage that they could serve as a spotlight? And that “serious” pundits would be burning up a lot of ink and pixels ranting about how he was entertaining tyrannical ideas totally at odds with the Founders?”

I remember when the conspiracy theory that Obama was going to cancel the 2016 elections was all the RW rage. Although some Americans swear up and down that they love the constitution, they don’t seem to know what’s it in other than what RW media tells them.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2018 • 9:47:03pm

re: #77 The Ghost of a Flea

Running theme: they get to dictate who deserved it. That’s all there is to their entire worldview.

They’re such an awful organization.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2018 • 9:49:59pm

I sort of disagree that Trump has no real principles. Lehigh University recently revoked his honorary degree and Smerconish was showing what he said 30 years ago. It’s oret much verbatim what his campaign was. Our foreign policy is run by idiots and I’m a genius. It’s not complex but his principles at their core are everyone sucks but him.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 3, 2018 • 9:49:59pm

re: #79 HappyWarrior

You’re being far too literal here. I’m definitely familiar with it being used with Christianity. Just the fallacy itself is called No True Scotsman. Kinda like Red Herring.

[scratches head]

I was being too literal by deliberately misnaming the fallacy by comparing conservatism to certain Christians?

I’ll have to go to my dictionary to check the definition of “literal.”

The fellow who took Jeffery Dahlmer’s confession insists that murderer and cannibal’s conversion was sincere. According to the theology propounded to me frequently around here, he’s in heaven, and I’m bound for hell despite never killing and eating anyone.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 3, 2018 • 9:51:14pm

re: #81 majii

“At this point, do we really need to point out that Obama saying anything that sounded like “I wanna be president-for-life” would have sent millions of wingnuts into the stratosphere with rage? That every Republican would be so incandescent with rage that they could serve as a spotlight? And that “serious” pundits would be burning up a lot of ink and pixels ranting about how he was entertaining tyrannical ideas totally at odds with the Founders?”

I remember when the conspiracy theory that Obama was going to cancel the 2016 elections was all the RW rage. Although some Americans swear up and down that they love the constitution, they don’t seem to know what’s it in other than what RW media tells them.

I posted the CNN article to my FB page. This is a dangerous man who is working to destroy our country. And our Congress and Senate better stop him. We have survived other crises; we will survive this.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 3, 2018 • 9:51:28pm

Remember the good ol’ days when Obama was supposed to be the crazy motherfucker who wanted to be “President for Life”?

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 3, 2018 • 9:52:05pm

re: #86 Eclectic Cyborg

Remember the good ol’ days when Obama was supposed to be the crazy motherfucker who wanted to be “President for Life”?

Projection, always, &c

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 3, 2018 • 9:53:01pm

I am disappointed in Guillermo del Toro, the similarities between these two works are far too numerous to be mere coincidence.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 3, 2018 • 9:53:05pm

re: #78 The Major

And they will pay a heavy price for that transgression - witness Stalin and WW II….

Sadly, they already did it with Mao, and have forgotten the lessons learned (assuming they are old enough to remember those events.) Younger people don’t know anything about Mao’s colossal mistakes (causing the Great Famine, for example), the Tian’anmen Massacre, the worst atrocities of the Cultural Revolution, etc. AFAIK term limits were put in the Chinese constitution specifically to prevent the next Mao from happening.

Xi’s anti-corruption campaign, which has wide popular support, has also decimated the ranks of the opposition. Few if any of his supporters within the party have been found guilty of corruption. You can connect the dots on your own.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2018 • 9:53:09pm

re: #84 Anymouse 🌹

[scratches head]

I was being to literal by deliberately misnaming the fallacy by comparing conservatism to certain Christians?

I’ll have to go to my dictionary to check the definition of “literal.”

The fellow who took Jeffery Dahlmer’s confession insists that murderer and cannibal’s conversion was sincere. According to the theology propounded to me frequently around here, he’s in heaven, and I’m bound for hell despite never killing and eating anyone.

Yeah you are. I’m not saying that what you’re talking about doesn’t happen. Indeed it happens frequently. Just that the name of the idiom is No True Scotsman not No True Christian. I’m saying that you gave an example of a NTS. NTC is a variation of NTS.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2018 • 9:54:18pm

re: #86 Eclectic Cyborg

Remember the good ol’ days when Obama was supposed to be the crazy motherfucker who wanted to be “President for Life”?

Remember when Obama was always “raging” yet it seems we can’t read a story where WH sources describe Trump in a good mood.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 3, 2018 • 9:56:22pm

re: #88 goddamnedfrank

I am disappointed in Guillermo del Toro, the coincidences between these two works are far too numerous to be mere coincidence.

I watched the movie just a few days ago. I was underwhelmed. Pan’s Labyrinth was much better and more creative. The Shape of Water just seemed like another version of the Beauty and the Beast plot line.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2018 • 9:57:05pm

I am old enough to remember when Obama was coddling communism by opening up trade and relations with Cuba according to Cruz and Rubio. I betcha neither will say anything about Trump praising Xi’s expansion of his power or thinking we need that here.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 3, 2018 • 9:57:57pm

re: #88 goddamnedfrank

I am disappointed in Guillermo del Toro, the coincidences between these two works are far too numerous to be mere coincidence.

This is the first I’ve heard of the plagiarism. Am unfamiliar with this play or the author. But that is a real shame. Del Toro should have given credit to this source.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Mar 3, 2018 • 10:01:24pm

re: #92 wheat-dogg

I watched the movie just a few days ago. I was underwhelmed. Pan’s Labyrinth was much better and more creative. The Shape of Water just seemed like another version of the Beauty and the Beast plot line.

I was also underwhelmed, but it seemed to me that he was telling exactly the same story as he did in Pan’s Labyrinth, with different “atmospherics.” And I liked PL much more.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 3, 2018 • 10:03:27pm

re: #88 goddamnedfrank

Yes, I know I need to edit more before posting.

But also, you’re not the boss of me.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 3, 2018 • 10:05:21pm

re: #90 HappyWarrior

Yeah you are. I’m not saying that what you’re talking about doesn’t happen. Indeed it happens frequently. Just that the name of the idiom is No True Scotsman not No True Christian. I’m saying that you gave an example of a NTS. NTC is a variation of NTS.

It’s not a clip, it’s a magazine.

As I said, I’m aware of the name of the fallacy. I am actually in the process of writing up my next apolgetics fail for my Webpage called the “no true Christian” fallacy, as atheists run into that far more often than Scots.

And I like pineapple on pizza.

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Targetpractice  Mar 3, 2018 • 10:06:30pm

The reality is that the GOP can only survive Trump the same way they survived Dubya: Treat him as an aberration, make him an “unperson,” and act as though the party was conned into voting for something they never would have supported otherwise. It’s how you have so many now who insist they never supported going into Iraq, but they think that we “won” something and Obama is totally to blame for failing to secure that “victory.” When Trump leaves office, willingly or otherwise, the GOP will swear to a man that they never would have voted for him if they’d known what he’d do. They’re all “Good Germans,” they never supported that sort of craziness, and the nation needs to “move on.”

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whitebeach  Mar 3, 2018 • 10:07:56pm

re: #97 Anymouse 🌹

It’s not a clip, it’s a magazine.

As I said, I’m aware of the name of the fallacy. I am actually in the process of writing up my next apolgetics fail for my Webpage called the “no true Christian” fallacy, as atheists run into that far more often than Scots.

And I like pineapple on pizza.

Damn it, mouse, you were doing great right up there till the end.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 3, 2018 • 10:08:52pm

re: #99 whitebeach

Damn it, mouse, you were doing great right up there till the end.

LOL No true pizza lover.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 3, 2018 • 10:09:05pm

re: #75 Anymouse 🌹

How many Christians now claim Roy Moore is “not a true Christian?”

The silence does not surprise me. The same silence when the subject is Trump or Ryan or McConnell or Moore or Chaffetz or Gowdy or…

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2018 • 10:16:49pm

re: #97 Anymouse 🌹

It’s not a clip, it’s a magazine.

As I said, I’m aware of the name of the fallacy. I am actually in the process of writing up my next apolgetics fail for my Webpage called the “no true Christian” fallacy, as atheists run into that far more often than Scots.

And I like pineapple on pizza.

Fair enough.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 3, 2018 • 10:17:52pm

re: #97 Anymouse 🌹

And I like pineapple on pizza.

Maybe I should send you a completely private message about the fact that I have actually enjoyed pineapple on a pizza.

But then again, I was raised in all the countries with weird versions of US food—prawn cocktail potato chips, Maggi ketchup, every bonkers thing Japan does to food—so I may not be the be the best support to cite.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2018 • 10:18:05pm

re: #99 whitebeach

Damn it, mouse, you were doing great right up there till the end.

Yeah unforgivable. But my Dad is worse. He likes anchovies on his.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2018 • 10:20:48pm

AM though the guy accepting Dshmer as Heaven bound while damning you isn’t NTS. It’s theological. It’s the idea anyone who accepts Christ as their savior goes to Heaven and if you don’t youre hellbound. I obviously disagree with that but that’s theology not a fallacy. A very fucked up theology mind you.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 3, 2018 • 10:21:15pm

re: #103 The Ghost of a Flea

Maybe I should send you a completely private message about the fact that I have actually enjoyed pineapple on a pizza.

But then again, I was raised in all the countries with weird versions of US food—prawn cocktail potato chips, Maggi ketchup, every bonkers thing Japan does to food—so I may not be the be the best support to cite.

Corn on pizza, for another example. They do that in China, too, and the zillion flavors of potato chips/crisps.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2018 • 10:22:15pm

re: #103 The Ghost of a Flea

Maybe I should send you a completely private message about the fact that I have actually enjoyed pineapple on a pizza.

But then again, I was raised in all the countries with weird versions of US food—prawn cocktail potato chips, Maggi ketchup, every bonkers thing Japan does to food—so I may not be the be the best support to cite.

I think for me is that the pizza makes the pineapple hot and I really prefer less juicy pizza toppings like pepperoni or spinach.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2018 • 10:23:57pm

re: #106 wheat-dogg

Corn on pizza, for another example. They do that in China, too, and the zillion flavors of potato chips/crisps.

I think the corn is a Czech thing too. I believe Doc Lizardo has told us about Czech pizza habits. No thanks to that. I love corn on the cob but not with pizza. Steak, burgers, hot dogs yes.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2018 • 10:24:55pm

Ketchup on hot dogs and other assorted smoked sausages?

Yay for dogs but novfor kolbasi, Italian sausages, etc.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 3, 2018 • 10:26:14pm

re: #104 HappyWarrior

Yeah unforgivable. But my Dad is worse. He likes anchovies on his.

My wife ruins pizzas that way too.

When she worked at Digital Equipment, she would occasionally order pizza with anchovies. She says until local pizzerias became familiar with her fishy taste (double entendre intended) they would refuse to take such an order unless she came into the pizza joint and ordered it in person.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 3, 2018 • 10:26:33pm

re: #107 HappyWarrior

I think for me is that the pizza makes the pineapple hot and I really prefer less juicy pizza toppings like pepperoni or spinach.

I picked it up from my mom, who puts the pineapple not on the pizza while it bakes, but as something added to the slice just before you eat it. She does the same with really fresh tomato.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2018 • 10:27:40pm

re: #111 The Ghost of a Flea

I picked it up from my mom, who puts the pineapple not on the pizza while it bakes, but as something added to the slice just before you eat it. She does the same with really fresh tomato.

Now I could live with that. I think pineapple is too sweet for pizza but I’m not strongly anti pineapple.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2018 • 10:28:30pm

re: #110 Anymouse 🌹

My wife ruins pizzas that way too.

When she worked at Digital Equipment, she would occasionally order pizza with anchovies. She says until local pizzerias became familiar with her fishy taste (double entendre intended) they would refuse to take such an order unless she came into the pizza joint and ordered it in person.

I love fish but not on pizza. I like an assortment of meats, veggies, & cheeses.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 3, 2018 • 10:30:06pm

re: #104 HappyWarrior

Yeah unforgivable. But my Dad is worse. He likes anchovies on his.

Pineapple and anchovies do NOT belong on pizza. Those are venial sins. Of course, I don’t think anchovies belong on anything.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 3, 2018 • 10:30:58pm

re: #105 HappyWarrior

AM though the guy accepting Dshmer as Heaven bound while damning you isn’t NTS. It’s theological. It’s the idea anyone who accepts Christ as their savior goes to Heaven and if you don’t youre hellbound. I obviously disagree with that but that’s theology not a fallacy. A very fucked up theology mind you.

That’s the flip side of it. The Duggars and Huckabees fit into that. Christians howling in Kentucky to allow 13 yo girls to marry while decrying Muhammad are part of it.

Catholics aren’t “true Christians” to a lot of Evangelical Protestant sects (or calling the Pope the antichrist). Ditto with the Obama family and Clinton family.

That was why I made the original comparison up the thread that conservatism is like a religion, and when someone “fails” conservatism they are not true conservative. (That would also be the No True Scotsman fallacy.)

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2018 • 10:31:28pm

re: #114 Hecuba’s daughter

Pineapple and anchovies do NOT belong on pizza. Those are venial sins. Of course, I don’t think anchovies belong on anything.

Thankfully everyone else agrees but he keeps his fish love to himself.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 3, 2018 • 10:32:31pm

re: #109 HappyWarrior

Ketchup on hot dogs and other assorted smoked sausages?

Yay for dogs but novfor kolbasi, Italian sausages, etc.

Kielbasa should only get ground horseradish (not that creamy stuff), or you’re no true Polish sausage lover. /s

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2018 • 10:33:43pm

re: #115 Anymouse 🌹

That’s the flip side of it. The Duggars and Huckabees fit into that. Christians howling in Kentucky to allow 13 yo girls to marry while decrying Muhammad are part of it.

Catholics aren’t “true Christians” to a lot of Evangelical Protestant sects (or calling the Pope the antichrist). Ditto with the Obama family and Clinton family.

That was why I made the original comparison up the thread that conservatism is like a religion, and when someone “fails” conservatism they are not true conservative. (That would also be the No True Scotsman fallacy.)

No argument here at all just that Dahmer’s preacher wasn’t engaging in a fallacy but rather a fucked up theology. You do bring up a great point though about Evangelical anti Catholicism and calling the Prophet Muhammad a pedophile while advocating teen age marriage for young women.

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austin_blue  Mar 3, 2018 • 10:33:57pm

re: #104 HappyWarrior

Yeah unforgivable. But my Dad is worse. He likes anchovies on his.

Anchovies taste *good* with sausage and pepperoni. Pineapple is right out, but anchovies are the bomb. That salty snap is killer bee.

(By the way, traditional anchovies are salt cured. If they are vinegar cured, they are boquerones, which make one hell of a tasty nigiri with a little crushed basil and parsley on top, and a dynamite tapas dish. I absolutely inhaled them with a glass of Rioja when I was TDY in Spain.)

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2018 • 10:34:50pm

re: #117 Anymouse 🌹

Kielbasa should only get ground horseradish (not that creamy stuff), or you’re no true Polish sausage lover. /s

Sauerkraut works too. Spicy deli mustard and onions too. But yes creamy horseradish is bettervfor roast beef.

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whitebeach  Mar 3, 2018 • 10:35:28pm

re: #104 HappyWarrior

Yeah unforgivable. But my Dad is worse. He likes anchovies on his.

When I was really young, I had a job driving an ice cream truck in Baton Rouge. My route went to the outer suburbs and even into semirural areas. After eating ice cream for a couple of weeks (I was poor) I had a wild craving for a sardine sandwich for lunch. I stopped at a country store and bought some bread. They didn’t have sardines, but for some reason they had anchovies, which I figured couldn’t be all that different. I bought a couple of tins and packed the little critters into a sandwich, and tried to eat it. I really haven’t cared much for anchovies since.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2018 • 10:35:48pm

re: #119 austin_blue

Anchovies taste *good* with sausage and pepperoni. Pineapple is right out, but anchovies are the bomb. That salty snap is killer bee.

(By the way, traditional anchovies are salt cured. If they are vinegar cured, they are boquerones, which make one hell of a tasty nigiri with a little crushed basil and parsley on top, and a dynamite tapas dish. I absolutely inhaled them with a glass of Rioja when I was TDY in Spain.)

I’ll consider that. Dad likes them solo tho. I did like them as a tapa in Spain too to my surprise.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2018 • 10:37:14pm

re: #121 whitebeach

When I was really young, I had a job driving an ice cream truck in Baton Rouge. My route went to the outer suburbs and even into semirural areas. After eating ice cream for a couple of weeks (I was poor) I had a wild craving for a sardine sandwich for lunch. I stopped at a country store and bought some bread. They didn’t have sardines, but for some reason they had anchovies, which I figured couldn’t be all that different. I bought a couple of tins and packed the little critters into a sandwich, and tried to eat it. I really haven’t cared much for anchovies since.

I found sardines nastier. I remember my one friend and his brother liked them and they having a pungent odor but it’s been 20 years so my palate may accept them now.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 3, 2018 • 10:42:19pm

re: #123 HappyWarrior

I found sardines nastier. I remember my one friend and his brother liked them and they having a pungent odor but it’s been 20 years so my palate may accept them now.

I used to like canned herring on crackers but not any more. I blame my mother for convincing me that is good.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 3, 2018 • 10:45:39pm

re: #108 HappyWarrior

I think the corn is a Czech thing too. I believe Doc Lizardo has told us about Czech pizza habits. No thanks to that. I love corn on the cob but not with pizza. Steak, burgers, hot dogs yes.

Yeah, corn on pizza is a thing here.

But so is curry ketchup, which is pretty good.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2018 • 10:46:40pm

re: #125 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, corn on pizza is a thing here.

But so is curry ketchup, which is pretty good.

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My brother and I are definitely all about curry ketchup after our time in Germany.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2018 • 10:47:27pm

re: #124 Anymouse 🌹

I used to like canned herring on crackers but not any more. I blame my mother for convincing me that is good.

I had to try pickled herring in Amsterdam. Didn’t do it for me. Much preferred the Kibberling.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 3, 2018 • 10:57:36pm

re: #114 Hecuba’s daughter

Pineapple and anchovies do NOT belong on pizza. Those are venial sins. Of course, I don’t think anchovies belong on anything.

Anchovies can be great as background flavoring in sauces.

But in general I don’t like the little strongly-flavored fishies. I keep trying, though.

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austin_blue  Mar 3, 2018 • 10:57:57pm

re: #121 whitebeach

When I was really young, I had a job driving an ice cream truck in Baton Rouge. My route went to the outer suburbs and even into semirural areas. After eating ice cream for a couple of weeks (I was poor) I had a wild craving for a sardine sandwich for lunch. I stopped at a country store and bought some bread. They didn’t have sardines, but for some reason they had anchovies, which I figured couldn’t be all that different. I bought a couple of tins and packed the little critters into a sandwich, and tried to eat it. I really haven’t cared much for anchovies since.

Salt cured anchovies should be a grace note, not the entree. Eating a salt cured anchovy plain is rough. Making a sandwich with a tin of them would be a eeew experience for almost anyone. It’s a salt bomb that will take your head off. A modern Caeser salad without anchovies isn’t a modern Caeser salad. A Lazio Puttanesca sauce needs anchovies and capers. Anchovies on pizza should be diced, not whole.

I don’t make a marinara sauce without anchovy paste. It’s as important as onion, garlic, and fresh basil.

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Slump-chan  Mar 3, 2018 • 11:09:20pm
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William Lewis  Mar 4, 2018 • 5:23:01am

re: #114 Hecuba’s daughter

Pineapple and anchovies do NOT belong on pizza. Those are venial sins. Of course, I don’t think anchovies belong on anything.

No Anchovies Please!!!

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 4, 2018 • 1:28:19pm

re: #1 HappyWarrior

Sorry to go OT but two things, see Three Billboards Outside Edding, Missouri. And Trump really fucking said that?!?

I will.

Also, see Annihilation before it eaves theaters.


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