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Cheechako  Mar 5, 2018 • 6:24:14pm

Very quite in the house. As I said in the last thread, everyone must be watching Rachel.

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MsJ  Mar 5, 2018 • 6:26:25pm

re: #1 Cheechako

Very quite in the house. As I said in the last thread, everyone must be watching Rachel.

I’m watching curling. 🇨🇦🥌🇨🇦🥌

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 5, 2018 • 6:28:38pm

re: #2 MsJ

I’m watching curling. 🇨🇦🥌🇨🇦🥌

And I am watching Deadpool with Mrs. Fish.

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fern01  Mar 5, 2018 • 6:31:34pm

I’m watching Rachel and wonder when the trumpists will turn violently against the justice system because it is all that is left to protect the US and the world against trump and his “friends”

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scottslemmons  Mar 5, 2018 • 6:33:26pm

re: #3 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

And I am watching Deadpool with Mrs. Fish.

I went in to that not expecting much and got won over during the opening credits. :)

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 5, 2018 • 6:34:33pm

re: #5 scottslemmons

I went in to that not expecting much and got won over during the opening credits. :)

As Mrs. Fish and I are discussing, this movie is what brought Deadpool up into my Top 3 in my list of superheroes. Does it say something about me that 2 of my top 3 are anti-heroes?

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MsJ  Mar 5, 2018 • 6:36:18pm

re: #3 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

And I am watching Deadpool with Mrs. Fish.

That’s a great flick. So very funny.

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ObserverArt  Mar 5, 2018 • 6:36:39pm

Jeesuz…go away for a bit and the last thread blows up into a producers and directors of TRUMP - The Movie discussion.

I think it must be from all the Hollywood Oscar buzz from last night.

Or is it ….DRUGS?!?!?!

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MsJ  Mar 5, 2018 • 6:37:46pm

re: #8 ObserverArt

Jeesuz…go away for a bit and the last thread blows up into a producers and directors of TRUMP - The Movie discussion.

I think it must be from all the Hollywood Oscar buzz from last night.

Or is it ….DRUGS?!?!?!

I don’t want to say it’s the drugs.

But it’s the drugs.

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Amory Blaine  Mar 5, 2018 • 6:44:47pm

I’m watching a storm roll in to destroy my commute home tonight.

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petesh  Mar 5, 2018 • 6:47:00pm

re: #9 MsJ

I don’t want to say it’s the drugs.

But it’s the drugs.

You must be confusing us with the celebrity du jour.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 5, 2018 • 6:48:36pm

Holy crap! What a day!

I start catching up on reading the threads, starting with the Presidential Seal golf tees thinking that if this was President Obama, the Fright Wing would have demanded he be thrown in a dungeon in chains.

Then run into this Sam Nunberg stuff, where apparently he melted down like hot wax on multiple networks.

I’m going to have to go back and watch the Katy Tur interview … this has gone way beyond Stupid Watergate.

And what the hell does Roger Stone have on Mr. Nunberg that Nunberg would defend Stone over Donald Trump? Stone’s been at the rodent copulation business for the Republicans for a long time. For Nunberg to be more scared of Stone than Robert Muller or the President must be pretty flippin’ bad.

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fern01  Mar 5, 2018 • 6:49:58pm

From Rachel

Nunberg now says he will “probably cooperate with Mueller”

What does trump do to people who work/ed for him? Insanity follows - as night follows day.

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ObserverArt  Mar 5, 2018 • 6:51:27pm

re: #13 fern01

From Rachel

Nunberg now says he will “probably cooperate with Mueller”

What does trump do to people who work/ed for him? Insanity follows - as night follows day.

Well, Trump sure drives us crazy. So…

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MsJ  Mar 5, 2018 • 6:51:30pm

re: #13 fern01

From Rachel

Nunberg now says he will “probably cooperate with Mueller”

What does trump do to people who work/ed for him? Insanity follows - as night follows day.

They are pre-addled. All ready for the wind up and then the execution.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 5, 2018 • 6:52:23pm

Criswell Bacon predicted that this week was going to be wilder than last week…and it’s only…Monday…

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whitebeach  Mar 5, 2018 • 6:53:25pm

re: #6 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

As Mrs. Fish and I are discussing, this movie is what brought Deadpool up into my Top 3 in my list of superheroes. Does it say something about me that 2 of my top 3 are anti-heroes?

It’s very strange to me that my brother and I were discussing the same phenomenon re our kid western TV heroes not three hours ago, and came up with the same 2 out of 3 antihero ratio. We both liked Matt Dillon (James Arness), the conventional hero. But we really liked Maverick (James Garner), the danger-averse Old West gambler and con man, who beat the bad guys the same way he won at poker, by brains and luck, and Paladin (Richard Boone), maybe the original Man in Black, who lived the life of a connoisseur and lover of all things beautiful in San Francisco but when he had a job strapped on a gun and rode all to hell and back, not always doing the bidding of his employers.

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Belafon  Mar 5, 2018 • 6:54:49pm

re: #16 Joe Bacon 🌹

Criswell Bacon predicted that this week was going to be wilder than last week…and it’s only…Monday…

As the near infinite gravitational pull of the Mueller investigation pulls the Trump admin in, they will spin faster and faster, flinging off even wilder and faster debris.

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whitebeach  Mar 5, 2018 • 6:54:59pm

re: #10 Amory Blaine

I’m watching a storm roll in to destroy my commute home tonight.

This is why God created bars and cabs.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 5, 2018 • 6:55:23pm

re: #17 whitebeach

I always liked Cheyenne the best. I’d get so mad as a kid seeing Cheyenne get beaten up and ripped off that I’d yell at the TV.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 5, 2018 • 6:58:57pm

I remember listening to the radio version of Have Gun Will Travel with John Dehner as Paladin and Ben Wright as Hey Boy. The radio version had a final episode that revealed Paladin as a “prodigal son” of a Boston Brahmin family and he decided to make peace with his family.

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whitebeach  Mar 5, 2018 • 6:59:36pm

re: #20 Joe Bacon 🌹

I always liked Cheyenne the best. I’d get so mad as a kid seeing Cheyenne get beaten up and ripped off that I’d yell at the TV.

I liked Cheyenne too, but as he was physically huge and, as you say, always getting beat up and ripped off, I concluded early on that he was a decent enough guy but really dumb.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 5, 2018 • 7:01:57pm

re: #22 whitebeach

I liked Cheyenne too, but as he was physically huge and, as you say, always getting beat up and ripped off, I concluded early on the he was a decent enough guy but really dumb.

I met Mr. Walker when he came to the Museum of Broadcasting in Beverly Hills. He was still going strong and so amazed at all the fans who came to see him!

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 5, 2018 • 7:05:32pm

Holy crap … still going through the video. I notice the screen Katy Tur has behind her of people who have already spoken to the Special Council Robert Mueller.

In that montage is a picture of Sam Clovis … I remember writing a letter to my local paper a few months ago when Clovis was nominated by Donald Trump to be Chief Scientist at the USDA, and I came out strongly against him (since he’s not a scientist).

Even then I thought things were crazy. Sam Nunberg is wild. He doesn’t sound high or drunk to me, he sounds terrified.

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Cheechako  Mar 5, 2018 • 7:05:36pm

re: #21 Joe Bacon 🌹

I remember listening to the radio version of Have Gun Will Travel with John Dehner as Paladin and Ben Wright as Hey Boy. The radio version had a final episode that revealed Paladin as a “prodigal son” of a Boston Brahmin family and he decided to make peace with his family.

You mean this episode:

From Here to Boston - the Inheritance

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 5, 2018 • 7:10:47pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 5, 2018 • 7:11:59pm

Nunberg talking about Russia hacking Hillary Clinton’s E-mail (I thought they got the DNC and RNC, but Hillary Clinton’s was never taken) … saying Russia, India, and Israel took them? WTF? Complaining it would take him eighty hours to collect his E-mail?

I’m not in the Federal government, but if I was told to turn over my government E-mail it would take me about five minutes (it’s all sorted on my computer separately from my private E-mail).

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 5, 2018 • 7:13:02pm

re: #25 Cheechako

You mean this episode:

From Here to Boston - the Inheritance

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!
YOU FOUND IT!!!!!
I haven’t heard this since the time I heard it when I was a kid!!!!!

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Kafitrar  Mar 5, 2018 • 7:19:25pm

re: #2 MsJ

I’m watching curling. 🇨🇦🥌🇨🇦🥌

Curling exists outside of the Olympics?
/

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whitebeach  Mar 5, 2018 • 7:20:02pm

Speaking of anitheroes in old TV westerns, I just remembered Wanted Dead or Alive, which ran for a few years in the late 50s-early 60s. The protagonist was a bounty hunter. He was played by this actor called Steve McQueen.

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MsJ  Mar 5, 2018 • 7:25:20pm

re: #29 Kafitrar

Curling exists outside of the Olympics?
/

Dooood. Curling exists from September through April with televised games starting in October. Every year. Year after year.

The rest of the year is spent waiting for the next curling season. About August, I’m itching for it to start. In September I start bitching “Where the hell is curling?!”

I’m an addict.

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teleskiguy  Mar 5, 2018 • 7:25:49pm

OT

Incredibly hilarious. I burned the Ween album “La Cucaracha” for my mom months ago. On Friday she texted me “Burn me another Ween album.” So I did, “The Mollusk.” Just got a text from her, “I just bought two tickets to Ween at Red Rocks.”

I am rolling over laughing my fucking ass off!

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jaunte  Mar 5, 2018 • 7:26:02pm

Not forgetting Tillerson.

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Skip Intro  Mar 5, 2018 • 7:27:58pm

re: #33 jaunte

Fox will be covering Hillary’s emails that night.

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jaunte  Mar 5, 2018 • 7:28:35pm

re: #34 Skip Intro

BASEMENT SERVER!!!

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Belafon  Mar 5, 2018 • 7:30:02pm

re: #34 Skip Intro

Fox will be covering Hillary’s emails that night.

It’ll probably be a replay of Bill’s impeachment so that Fox viewers get confused who the rest of the country is talking about.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 5, 2018 • 7:31:37pm

re: #36 Belafon

It’ll probably be a replay of Bill’s impeachment so that Fox viewers get confused who the rest of the country is talking about.

Or his “illegitimate black son.” The GOP seems to think that plays well with the racists (since one of John McCain’s primary candidates did that to him in South Carolina on a television advert).

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 5, 2018 • 7:33:03pm

re: #30 whitebeach

Speaking of anitheroes in old TV westerns, I just remembered Wanted Dead or Alive, which ran for a few years in the late 50s-early 60s. The protagonist was a bounty hunter. He was played by this actor called Steve McQueen.

On that sorta-topic, I am starting to watch MacGyver. I got turned on to Richard Dean Anderson with his work on the sci-fi series Stargate: SG1, but this is the first time I’ve seen his earlier work available for streaming. And now I get to watch him in his younger years. Mrs. Fish is having a fangirl-gasm.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 5, 2018 • 7:33:28pm

Top article right now on FOX News’s Website:

FBI agent Peter Strzok was told of possible breach into Clinton’s server but didn’t follow up, sources say

Deflector shields on maximum!

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Amory Blaine  Mar 5, 2018 • 7:34:54pm

re: #32 teleskiguy

It’s wonderful to witness an elder throw off the shackles of convention and open up.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 5, 2018 • 7:36:27pm

re: #36 Belafon

It’ll probably be a replay of Bill’s impeachment so that Fox viewers get confused who the rest of the country is talking about.

Something like that.

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MsJ  Mar 5, 2018 • 7:36:29pm

re: #39 Anymouse 🌹

Top article right now on FOX News’s Website:

FBI agent Peter Strzok was told of possible breach into Clinton’s server but didn’t follow up, sources say

Deflector shields on maximum!

If love for Fox to be labeled the enemy of the state that they are

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 5, 2018 • 7:37:30pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 5, 2018 • 7:37:40pm

re: #42 MsJ

If love for Fox to be labeled the enemy of the state that they are

Is it just me or have they become even worse in the Trump years but then again they talked about terrorist fist bumps in 2008.

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ObserverArt  Mar 5, 2018 • 7:37:56pm

re: #26 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

ABC News ✔
@ABC
Skirmishes flare at Michigan State University before Richard Spencer speech. Two dozen people were arrested as a result of protests, police say.

10:08 PM - Mar 5, 2018

It’s going to be a long hot summer. I’m getting hints of ‘the 60s race and war protests and riots.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 5, 2018 • 7:38:11pm

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whitebeach  Mar 5, 2018 • 7:38:50pm

re: #31 MsJ

Dooood. Curling exists from September through April with televised games starting in October. Every year. Year after year.

The rest of the year is spent waiting for the next curling season. About August, I’m itching for it to start. In September I start bitching “Where the hell is curling?!”

I’m an addict.

So you’re saying this is sort of like Purgatory?

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teleskiguy  Mar 5, 2018 • 7:39:48pm

re: #40 Amory Blaine

My mother is my rock. Her and I understand each other better than anybody.

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MsJ  Mar 5, 2018 • 7:40:00pm

re: #44 HappyWarrior

Is it just me or have they become even worse in the Trump years but then again they talked about terrorist fist bumps in 2008.

They’re not even hiding that they are the Republican propaganda network, any longer.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 5, 2018 • 7:40:54pm

Weird. I clicked on the John Oliver video but it says “video not available.”

Oh never mind, I’m in Canada.

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MsJ  Mar 5, 2018 • 7:41:22pm

re: #47 whitebeach

So you’re saying this is sort of like Purgatory?

Off season, for sure.

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Interesting Times  Mar 5, 2018 • 7:41:38pm

Cross out Nunberg and this becomes an evergreen tweet:

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Amory Blaine  Mar 5, 2018 • 7:41:47pm

re: #50 The Vicious Babushka

Weird. I clicked on the John Oliver video but it says “video not available.”

Oh never mind, I’m in Canada, eh.

ftfy

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HappyWarrior  Mar 5, 2018 • 7:42:44pm

re: #49 MsJ

They’re not even hiding that they are the Republican propaganda network, any longer.

Right, that’s what I mean. I see their headlines in my widget and it’s just so pathetic.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 5, 2018 • 7:43:37pm

re: #49 MsJ

They’re not even hiding that they are the Republican propaganda network, any longer.

Did they ever?

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MsJ  Mar 5, 2018 • 7:45:19pm

re: #55 Anymouse 🌹

Did they ever?

It’s worse over the last two, there years.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 5, 2018 • 7:46:20pm

re: #55 Anymouse 🌹

Did they ever?

No but it’s gotten worse.

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BlueSpotinAL  Mar 5, 2018 • 7:46:54pm

The movie based on today’s events should be called Judgement at Nunberg.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 5, 2018 • 7:47:12pm

NRA TV has a programme called “Love at First Shot?” WTF?

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Amory Blaine  Mar 5, 2018 • 7:47:38pm

Bahh. Time to suit up and try to get home. BBL.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 5, 2018 • 7:47:42pm

re: #56 MsJ

It’s worse over the last two, there years.

Exactly in the Bush years, yeah they were awful. But now we have Mark Stern saying “At least Neo Nazis are American citizens.” The xenophobic rhetoric has gone up with the rise of Trumpism.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 5, 2018 • 7:47:55pm

re: #60 Amory Blaine

Bahh. Time to suit up and try to get home. BBL.

Maximum effort!

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HappyWarrior  Mar 5, 2018 • 7:49:13pm

re: #59 Anymouse 🌹

NRA TV has a programme called “Love at First Shot?” WTF?

Is that a gun or are you just happy to see me. But tbh that seems fairly tame compared to Dana’s raging against Hollywood. They do have a weird fixation with guns though, that’s for sure.

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jaunte  Mar 5, 2018 • 7:50:09pm
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Kragar  Mar 5, 2018 • 7:50:16pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 5, 2018 • 7:51:59pm

re: #63 HappyWarrior

Is that a gun or are you just happy to see me. But tbh that seems fairly tame compared to Dana’s raging against Hollywood. They do have a weird fixation with guns though, that’s for sure.

Well, I can understand why the NRA would be interested in guns. That’s sort of what they do.

But the propaganda of “they’re all out to get us and you need to arm up” seems to sound like Radio Rwanda.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 5, 2018 • 7:52:44pm

re: #64 jaunte

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Remember when MSNBC in 2013 was trying to distract from Obama’s problems by bringing up Romney every time Obama had a bad day? Yeah me neither. Lumpy really wishes HRC were President.

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Kafitrar  Mar 5, 2018 • 7:53:45pm

re: #31 MsJ

Dooood. Curling exists from September through April with televised games starting in October. Every year. Year after year.

The rest of the year is spent waiting for the next curling season. About August, I’m itching for it to start. In September I start bitching “Where the hell is curling?!”

I’m an addict.

I believe it. :) I just looked up curling and was surprised to find out that there’s a curling club not far from work.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 5, 2018 • 7:53:47pm

re: #66 Anymouse 🌹

Well, I can understand why the NRA would be interested in guns. That’s sort of what they do.

But the propaganda of “they’re all out to get us and you need to arm up” seems to sound like Radio Rwanda.

Oh no doubt. They have actual hate for those of us who don’t like guns. I don’t like guns. I’m not ashamed to say that. I know their destructive power too well.

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jaunte  Mar 5, 2018 • 7:54:40pm
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Kragar  Mar 5, 2018 • 7:55:32pm

re: #68 Kafitrar

I believe it. :) I just looked up curling and was surprised to find out that there’s a curling club not far from work.

Make sure you know the song first.

Curl

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HappyWarrior  Mar 5, 2018 • 7:56:02pm

re: #65 Kragar

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It unfortunately isn’t too crazy. Not all or even most Sanders supporters but we just have to look at Bernie’s own son RTing in approval things speaking alt right language like Dana’s screeds.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 5, 2018 • 7:57:53pm

re: #70 jaunte

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He brought it on himself but yeah big bad CNN as always. Glad Uday is trolling Twitter for anything that validates his bs. I’m going to enjoy seeing his smug face when Mueller gets to him.

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jaunte  Mar 5, 2018 • 7:58:18pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 5, 2018 • 7:58:22pm

re: #69 HappyWarrior

Oh no doubt. They have actual hate for those of us who don’t like guns. I don’t like guns. I’m not ashamed to say that. I know their destructive power too well.

They also hate those of us who do own guns but are not NRA members and are liberals.

In my own little town (where there are more guns than people), I get along fine with everyone. Pretty much the same for my county (there aren’t a lot of people here).

But if I was to go elsewhere, say rural Texas or Kansas, I would be “one of those gun-grabbing liberals” (even though I own a gun).

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HappyWarrior  Mar 5, 2018 • 7:59:38pm

re: #75 Anymouse 🌹

They also hate those of us who do own guns but are not NRA members and are liberals.

In my own little town (where there are more guns than people), I get along fine with everyone. Pretty much the same for my county (there aren’t a lot of people here).

But if I was to go elsewhere, say rural Texas or Kansas, I would be “one of those gun-grabbing liberals” (even though I own a gun).

Oh that too for sure.

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The Major  Mar 5, 2018 • 8:00:05pm

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Kragar  Mar 5, 2018 • 8:00:41pm

re: #75 Anymouse 🌹

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whitebeach  Mar 5, 2018 • 8:01:22pm

re: #30 whitebeach

It’s funny how even a sorta forgettable TV western can work in minds and open them for some people. I remember an episode of Wanted Dead or Alive when circumstances forced McQueen and this very tough-looking black guy to share camp for a night. McQueen’s character didn’t much care for this, and eventually the dialogue got a little challenging. Remember that McQueen was this extremely tough white dude, heavily armed and competent with those weapons. At some point, the black man says something like, “Do you want to fight, mister? Is that what you want to do?” And McQueen makes peace!

I expect that most lizards can’t, although some of them certainly can, understand the effect of this on a raised-racist white teenager like me in the fucking segregated South.

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The Major  Mar 5, 2018 • 8:01:53pm

re: #78 Kragar

Your brutal use of the truth shows a clear lack of imagination.
//////

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 5, 2018 • 8:01:54pm

LOL

And Then Sam Nunberg Bit His Own Dick Off On Jake Tapper’s CNN Show LOLOL TOTALLY NORMAL (goes to Wonkette, filed under “What a time to be alive”)

We are sorry for calling Carter Page the dumbest person in the Trump-Russia investigation, we will never do that again.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 5, 2018 • 8:03:30pm

re: #78 Kragar

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That’s exactly what I mean. The whole only real manly men use or know how to use guns shit. You know what, I may not know how to use a gun but I can use my fucking head more effectively than any of these guys could dream of using their dick substitutes.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 5, 2018 • 8:12:03pm

Sorry for sounding angry but I’m sick of my masculinity being attacked because I’m not part of the gun cult. I’d much rather use my earnings on music and good times.

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ObserverArt  Mar 5, 2018 • 8:12:21pm

re: #70 jaunte

Stealth Jeff
@drawandstrike
Becoming increasingly clear CNN put a likely drunk guest who is also taking antidepressants on the air hoping to get statements from him it could use for a couple of their favorite narratives. To keep Trump/Russia hope alive for a few more news cycles.

GFY, CNN.

Proof they are the “Party of Personal Responsibility” example #1, 237, 986

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 5, 2018 • 8:13:08pm

Seems I missed out on most of the discussion regarding casting for the Trump movie, but I think Michael Cera would be an excellent Jared:

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piratedan  Mar 5, 2018 • 8:15:33pm

re: #84 ObserverArt

remind me again, how many indictments and convictions there were after 4 years of Benghazi investigations?

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JordanRules  Mar 5, 2018 • 8:15:33pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 5, 2018 • 8:15:48pm

re: #85 Eclectic Cyborg

Seems I missed out on most of the discussion regarding casting for the Trump movie, but I think Michael Cera would be an excellent Jared:

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I had the same observation. Both are young looking for their age. Hard for to believe Cera is a year younger than me and msny tell me I look mid 20’s.

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 5, 2018 • 8:17:00pm

re: #86 piratedan

Zero.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 5, 2018 • 8:17:11pm

re: #82 HappyWarrior

That’s exactly what I mean. The whole only real manly men use or know how to use guns shit. You know what, I may not know how to use a gun but I can use my fucking head more effectively than any of these guys could dream of using their dick substitutes.

I wonder if a “stand your ground” law would protect you if you used a rifle or shotgun as a club instead of shooting someone?

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HappyWarrior  Mar 5, 2018 • 8:17:22pm

re: #87 JordanRules

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Agh I never heard about that. I never liked her much but thought she had some decency. I love Cheadle. Hotel Rwanda inspired me.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 5, 2018 • 8:17:56pm

re: #90 Anymouse 🌹

I wonder if a “stand your ground” law would protect you if you used a rifle or shotgun as a club instead of shooting someone?

I’d need to know the skin tones of the parties.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 5, 2018 • 8:19:16pm

re: #88 HappyWarrior

I am 36 and I get 20s sometimes. Maybe not having kids has something to do with it lol.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 5, 2018 • 8:20:00pm

Reason Magazine likens this issue to the “Satanic Panic” in the USA in the Eighties.

reason.com
(Goes to the Libertarian Reason Magazine)

The Province of Ontario was using a laboratory called Motherisk to do hair-sample testing on children to prove their mothers were alcoholics or drug abusers, and using the results to take children from their homes.

Last week, a review of the procedures used by the family courts determined that in scores of cases, the fake laboratory had substantial sway over child custody cases where the province sought to take children from their homes. Many have since been returned.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 5, 2018 • 8:20:46pm

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HappyWarrior  Mar 5, 2018 • 8:21:24pm

re: #93 Eclectic Cyborg

I am 36 and I get 20s sometimes. Maybe not having kids has something to do with it lol.

Yeah I don’t either. I’m surprised by it honestly. I think my eyes show some age to them.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 5, 2018 • 8:22:31pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 5, 2018 • 8:23:11pm

re: #97 Anymouse 🌹

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We didn’t get it, damn it.//

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 5, 2018 • 8:23:27pm

re: #86 piratedan

Remember back in 1983 when the Marine barracks in Beirut were bombed and 300 people were killed? Ya know how many hearings were had? One.

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ObserverArt  Mar 5, 2018 • 8:24:08pm

re: #86 piratedan

remind me again, how many indictments and convictions there were after 4 years of Benghazi investigations?

All I know is Hillary ripped the House Committee with Trey Gowdy pretty good for many hours and stood up to them.

In a few hours today Sam Nunberg beclowned himself on a few TV shows and he and the wingnuts are giving him all kinds of excuses.

He didn’t have to go on TV…even if drunk, he had a responsible choice.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 5, 2018 • 8:24:28pm

re: #99 Ace Rothstein

Remember back in 1983 when the Marine barracks in Beirut were bombed and 300 people were killed? Ya know how many hearings were had? One.

And how many of the families of those Marines were used to bash Reagan and Schultz at the 1984
DNC?

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 5, 2018 • 8:25:27pm

re: #101 HappyWarrior

Zero.

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 5, 2018 • 8:25:56pm

re: #101 HappyWarrior

And how many of the families of those Marines were used to bash Reagan and Schultz at the 1984
DNC?

And how many indictments were brought down?

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jaunte  Mar 5, 2018 • 8:26:06pm

re: #87 JordanRules

“We’ve lost a sense of common narrative”

She must have skipped a lot of history courses.

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teleskiguy  Mar 5, 2018 • 8:26:52pm

re: #93 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m 35 and have a chin full of hair. Got carded at a Mexican restaurant the next town over last week. I’m always flattered and I let them know. Gal looked at my I.D. and said “you look so young!” Her and I took a tequila shot at the end of my meal.

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ipsos  Mar 5, 2018 • 8:27:21pm

re: #95 Anymouse 🌹

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jaunte  Mar 5, 2018 • 8:28:41pm
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piratedan  Mar 5, 2018 • 8:34:03pm

re: #101 HappyWarrior

re: #103 Ace Rothstein

well, it’s stuff like this that makes me furious…

who compelled Numberg to show up on TV… on multiple shows on the same day?
How many times did the hosts of said programs try to save him from himself?

If someone from the left had bothered to show up in a similar capacity, would they have been treated the same way?

Okay, lets say that Mr. Numberg had mixed meds with alcohol… who’s fault is that? If he’s a potential witness stating publicly on TV that he’s not going to honor the subpoena, again, who’s fault is that?

in the interim, over on the Faux network they’re still doing everything they can to pin all of their transgressions on the Clinton campaign, and guess what, THOSE people aren’t drugged, its straight out propaganda totally unhinged from reality. You want to be outraged about proprieties and expectations and courtesy, CLEAN YOUR OWN MOTHERFUCKING HOUSE FIRST!

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 5, 2018 • 8:34:57pm

re: #98 HappyWarrior

We didn’t get it, damn it.//

They have a copy of the listserv message if you want to see it. It was an invitation to their Spring Convention, with a photo of Justice holding scales, Delicate Arch at Arches National Park, and a giant boob pic.

abovethelaw.com (NSFW)

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HappyWarrior  Mar 5, 2018 • 8:36:27pm

re: #109 Anymouse 🌹

They have a copy of the listserv message if you want to see it. It was an invitation to their Spring Convention, with a photo of Justice holding scales, Delicate Arch at Arches National Park, and a giant boob pic.

abovethelaw.com (NSFW)

I’m kidding around.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 5, 2018 • 8:36:57pm

re: #105 teleskiguy

I’m 35 and have a chin full of hair. Got carded at a Mexican restaurant the next town over last week. I’m always flattered and I let them know. Gal looked at my I.D. and said “you look so young!” Her and I took a tequila shot at the end of my meal.

My wife points out that is a common pick-up line for women. She sometimes gets carded even though she has grey hair in her fifties (though not locally).

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 5, 2018 • 8:37:45pm

re: #109 Anymouse 🌹

Ha ha ha. Someone is going to get reamed for that.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 5, 2018 • 8:37:59pm
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jaunte  Mar 5, 2018 • 8:39:15pm

re: #105 teleskiguy

I’m 35 and have a chin full of hair. Got carded at a Mexican restaurant the next town over last week. I’m always flattered and I let them know. Gal looked at my I.D. and said “you look so young!” Her and I took at tequila shot at the end of my meal.

That’s me at 64 by the Kroger self check-out machine, waiting for the attendant with the over-21 code.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 5, 2018 • 8:41:47pm

Lre: #102 Ace Rothstein

Zero.

Exactly. I feel bad for the mother the RNC brought out but her grief was exploited by cynical assholes, the same ones who voted to cut enbassy and consulate security funding.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 5, 2018 • 8:42:14pm

re: #108 piratedan

well, it’s stuff like this that makes me furious…

who compelled Numberg to show up on TV… on multiple shows on the same day?
How many times did the hosts of said programs try to save him from himself?

If someone from the left had bothered to show up in a similar capacity, would they have been treated the same way?

When Donna Brazille’s book came out she was on every show being lauded for saying the 2016 Dem primary was rigged. Her claim immediately fell apart over that weekend as it became clear she was mixing up two completely different DNC fundraising agreements, conflating the one Clinton had as the official nominee with one she had during the primary race. They’ve never had her back to challenge her on that ignorant bullshit stunt.

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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 5, 2018 • 8:42:58pm

re: #83 HappyWarrior

Sorry for sounding angry but I’m sick of my masculinity being attacked because I’m not part of the gun cult. I’d much rather use my earnings on music and good times.

Stepping up with a weapon and training and all that is fine. I happen to think you a person that steps up without advantage and prevails. At my back anytime.

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teleskiguy  Mar 5, 2018 • 8:44:41pm

re: #114 jaunte

They don’t serve tequila at Kroger self checkout stations.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 5, 2018 • 8:44:55pm
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jaunte  Mar 5, 2018 • 8:44:55pm

WTF

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jaunte  Mar 5, 2018 • 8:45:24pm

re: #118 teleskiguy

It’s BYOB in my neighborhood.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 5, 2018 • 8:46:23pm

re: #117 Unshaken Defiance

Stepping up with a weapon and training and all that is fine. I happen to think you a person that steps up without advantage and prevails. At my back anytime.

Oh no doubt. And you don’t disparage people who don’t own. When I talk about the gun cult, I’m talking about the NRA types who can’t go without it. You have your photography for example which fwiw I’ve enjoyed.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 5, 2018 • 8:47:07pm

re: #119 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Drain the swamp eh? This is unreal how these guys flaunt their lack of ethics.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 5, 2018 • 8:48:24pm

re: #116 goddamnedfrank

When Donna Brazille’s book came out she was on every show being lauded for saying the 2016 Dem primary was rigged. Her claim immediately fell apart over that weekend as it became clear she was mixing up two completely different DNC fundraising agreements, conflating the one Clinton had as the official nominee with one she had during the primary race. They haven’t had her back to challenge her about her ignorant bullshit stunt.

I’m still annoyed Warren went along with that bs. I like her but it made me question her judgment, motivations, & intelligence.

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Interesting Times  Mar 5, 2018 • 8:49:29pm

2018:

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teleskiguy  Mar 5, 2018 • 8:49:29pm

re: #121 jaunte

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Amory Blaine  Mar 5, 2018 • 8:50:02pm

Condi Rice should shut the fuck up.

Condi Rice to Schiff: Time to finish Russia probe

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Kragar  Mar 5, 2018 • 8:51:09pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 5, 2018 • 8:51:11pm

I’m not really sure what to think of Seth Abramson. Sometimes it seems as though he reports things that are true, whilst other times it seems like he’s making stuff up to peddle Seth Abramson not news.

Anyway, he goes on a fifty-one tweet speculative thread about the woman in the Thai jail claiming she has information for the Trump/Russia investigation. He ties a whole lot of people together into that, and claims that the story seems credible because many news outlets have picked it up. (It’s not like news outlets have been ever trolled before with a fake story or propaganda.)

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HappyWarrior  Mar 5, 2018 • 8:51:28pm

re: #127 Amory Blaine

Condi Rice should shut the fuck up.

Condi Rice to Schiff: Time to finish Russia probe

Didn’t see you saying this about Benghazi, Condi.

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 5, 2018 • 8:52:11pm

re: #129 Anymouse 🌹

I don’t trust him.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 5, 2018 • 8:53:29pm

re: #122 HappyWarrior

Oh no doubt. And you don’t disparage people who don’t own. When I talk about the gun cult, I’m talking about the NRA types who can’t go without it. You have your photography for example which fwiw I’ve enjoyed.

Shooting stuff and it lives another day, too.

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Interesting Times  Mar 5, 2018 • 8:53:34pm

Ha:

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 5, 2018 • 8:53:52pm

re: #123 HappyWarrior

Drain the swamp eh? This is unreal how these guys flaunt their lack of ethics.

I swear they’re just seeing how far they can push the envelope now.

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Amory Blaine  Mar 5, 2018 • 8:54:12pm

re: #130 HappyWarrior

Didn’t see you saying this about Benghazi, Condi.

She should repent for murdering hundreds of thousands.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 5, 2018 • 8:54:59pm

re: #134 Eclectic Cyborg

I swear they’re just seeing how far they can push the envelope now.

They know the GOP base won’t care because FNC will just have something about HRC or Obama.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 5, 2018 • 8:55:35pm

re: #135 Amory Blaine

She should repent for murdering hundreds of thousands.

And creating a dangerous vacuum in the ME.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 5, 2018 • 8:56:45pm

re: #136 HappyWarrior

They know the GOP base won’t care because FNC will just have something about HRC or Obama.

Right now they are covering Hillary Clinton’s “stolen” E-mails. (Really.)

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 5, 2018 • 8:57:08pm

So hungry for a taste of home—Prantl’s Bakery in Pittsburgh’s famous Burnt Almond Torte!

Prantl’s Burnt Almond Torte
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HappyWarrior  Mar 5, 2018 • 8:58:24pm

re: #138 Anymouse 🌹

Right now they are covering Hillary Clinton’s “stolen” E-mails. (Really.)

About as predictable as a sunrise.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 5, 2018 • 8:58:36pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 5, 2018 • 8:58:39pm

re: #139 Joe Bacon 🌹

So hungry for a taste of home—Prantl’s Bakery in Pittsburgh’s famous Burnt Almond Torte!

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Mmm.

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retired cynic  Mar 5, 2018 • 8:58:40pm

re: #139 Joe Bacon 🌹

So hungry for a taste of home—Prantl’s Bakery in Pittsburgh’s famous Burnt Almond Torte!

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mmmm

That looks good!

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 5, 2018 • 8:58:59pm

re: #133 Interesting Times

Ha:

The Gang That Couldn’t Loot Straight.

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The Major  Mar 5, 2018 • 9:02:25pm

re: #119 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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The Major  Mar 5, 2018 • 9:03:45pm

re: #129 Anymouse 🌹

Seth Abramson should not be considered reliable.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 5, 2018 • 9:04:32pm

Age discrimination

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The Major  Mar 5, 2018 • 9:04:59pm

re: #133 Interesting Times

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MsJ  Mar 5, 2018 • 9:07:49pm

re: #139 Joe Bacon 🌹

So hungry for a taste of home—Prantl’s Bakery in Pittsburgh’s famous Burnt Almond Torte!

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They deliver.
prantlsbakery.com

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 5, 2018 • 9:08:00pm

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 5, 2018 • 9:10:05pm

More asshole conservative conspiracy theorists.

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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 5, 2018 • 9:11:01pm

re: #126 teleskiguy

Did you happen to see about the avalanche at Mammoth mountain?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 5, 2018 • 9:16:01pm

re: #151 Anymouse 🌹

More asshole conservative conspiracy theorists.

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Maybe Trump is right that we need to reopen mental hospitals…

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 5, 2018 • 9:22:04pm

SpacEx launch video has gone live

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 5, 2018 • 9:22:53pm

re: #127 Amory Blaine

Condi Rice should shut the fuck up.

Condi Rice to Schiff: Time to finish Russia probe

re: #91 HappyWarrior

Agh I never heard about that. I never liked her much but thought she had some decency. I love Cheadle. Hotel Rwanda inspired me.

Remember: Condi supported Tillerson. She is as tied to Russia as anyone in the Trump administration.

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jaunte  Mar 5, 2018 • 9:25:40pm

Alternate Banjo spotting:

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 5, 2018 • 9:27:47pm

Gee. Nobody telling Condi to go away forever. She can knit or something….

Anyway. Just put the deposit down to reserve my spot for a Model 3. Finally got to my friend’s place and drove his (his wife’s). Fun car, and not insanely expensive like the Model S. Should be a 12-18 month wait. lol

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 5, 2018 • 9:28:51pm

re: #153 Joe Bacon 🌹

Maybe Trump is right that we need to reopen mental hospitals…

Perhaps the reason SETI can’t detect anything is because when an intelligent species reaches the capability to build a worldwide Internet, the wingnuts destroy civilisation.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 5, 2018 • 9:31:14pm

re: #155 Hecuba’s daughter

Remember: Condi supported Tillerson. She is as tied to Russia as anyone in the Trump administration.

That’s true.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 5, 2018 • 9:32:08pm

re: #154 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

SpacEx launch video has gone live

T-minus 1 minute

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 5, 2018 • 9:33:53pm

Nighttime rocket launches are cool.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 5, 2018 • 9:33:58pm

re: #151 Anymouse 🌹

More asshole conservative conspiracy theorists.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 5, 2018 • 9:34:15pm

re: #160 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

T-minus 1 minute

Lift off
Vroom, no boom

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 5, 2018 • 9:38:47pm

re: #163 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Lift off
Vroom, no boom

1st stage separation
2nd stage engine ignition
Payload fairing separation

They have to be glad to get this pad queen into the air. They’ve been trying to launch since December

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 5, 2018 • 9:39:13pm

re: #151 Anymouse 🌹

One of the downsides of the internet is that it’s created networks between awful people that then feel bolder and more confident in their paranoia and self-importance. The latter being on display when they’re so confident they start with the insults and threats.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 5, 2018 • 9:40:13pm

re: #165 The Ghost of a Flea

One of the downsides of the internet is that it’s created networks between awful people that then feel bolder and more confident in their paranoia and self-importance. The latter being on display when they’re so confident they start with the insults and threats.

I suggest issuing them all Mimeograph machines and free postage in exchange for their Internet service.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 5, 2018 • 9:47:14pm

From the Nebraska Democratic Party. I have not yet filed to run in this year’s election, but will when I next get to town. That’ll add another person… .

The Nebraska Democratic Party has a strong ticket of over 200 Democrats from all walks of life running for office in 2018. Moms, young people, union members, farmers, veterans, teachers and middle-class Democrats have all put their name on the ballot line to represent our Party’s values and to end the current one-party rule across our state.

There are over 50 women and 20 members of minority communities that are running for office as Democrats in 2018.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 5, 2018 • 9:53:06pm

From the San Antonio Express News article on the Sutherland Springs, Tex. pastor who was harassed by two right-wing conspiraliars:

The Wilson County Sheriff’s Office declined to provide charging information on Robert Ussery, 54, who founded conspiracy website Side Thorn, and his partner Jodi Mann, 56, who is referred to as “Conspiracy Granny” online. The booking process was not complete Monday evening and no information would be made available until Tuesday, a supervisor there said.

Ussery “continually yelled and screamed and hollered and told me he was gonna hang me from a tree, and pee on me while I’m hanging,” said Frank Pomeroy, the pastor.

Pomeroy said he was in his car by the church when the pair approached the building, and he intervened when Mann began to write in large, loopy writing on a poster left for well-wishers to sign, “The truth shall set you free.”

The pair believe the church shooting was staged by accomplices of the government, though Pomeroy, whose 14-year-old daughter was killed there, knows better.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 5, 2018 • 9:57:44pm

re: #151 Anymouse 🌹

More asshole conservative conspiracy theorists.

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These people need to be deprogrammed. Breitbart, Fox News, InfoWars, Gingrich, Limbaugh, etc have insinuated themselves into the minds of millions of Americans who may have started as sane conservatives but were gradually led down the rabbit hole, never to emerge. It is terrifying how they have all bought into various conspiracies — how they support Trump and dismiss all criticism of him as fake news. There are educated people so brainwashed they believe Trump was a successful real estate developer. Our country will not survive if the Republicans do not shake off their allegiance to Trump and their apparent fidelity to Putin.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 5, 2018 • 9:59:19pm

re: #169 Hecuba’s daughter

The GOP is not done looting the government yet, and the agitprop makes for a horde of useful idiots.

When they have all the money they want, they can leave. Then the rest of us are stuck with the mess and a broke nation to boot.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 5, 2018 • 10:00:06pm

re: #168 Anymouse 🌹

From the San Antonio Express News article on the Sutherland Springs, Tex. pastor who was harassed by two right-wing conspiraliars:

Absolutely terrifying that there are people so immune to reason that they believe these massacres did not happen.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 5, 2018 • 10:03:40pm

re: #171 Hecuba’s daughter

Absolutely terrifying that there are people so immune to reason that they believe these massacres did not happen.

Right up until the time one of these massacres occurs in their own town. I would be interested in seeing numbers or interviews of people who held such insane beliefs until something like that happened in their own town, then had to put up with others calling them liars or conspirators.

That number has to be greater than zero. Some chowderhead for example in Sutherland Springs or Parkland who was absolutely convinced that Sandy Hook or Columbine were faked.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 5, 2018 • 10:03:53pm

re: #171 Hecuba’s daughter

Absolutely terrifying that there are people so immune to reason that they believe these massacres did not happen.

Reason doesn’t make them feel superior, so they don’t do it.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 5, 2018 • 10:04:56pm

Second burn of the second stage of the Falcon Nine was successful.

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majii  Mar 5, 2018 • 10:06:23pm

re: #130 HappyWarrior

“Didn’t see you saying this about Benghazi, Condi.”

I’ve never, ever liked Condi Rice because she sold out to GOPers while knowing that if she hadn’t been a member of their party, they’d have treated her the way they treated PBO. She’s a well-educated woman, but she needs to STFU in a hurry. If she was too timid to speak about the way her party members treated PBO, and the things they’ve been saying about Michael Steele recently, she’s a coward and the GOP’s useful black idiot. I’ll be totally honest, if Rice were to try to visit some black churches here in Middle GA, she would be permitted to come, but she’d better prep and expect to answer some hard questions. She’ll also get lots of side eye. For comparison, think about how Manigault was treated when she showed up at the black journalists’ association convention and thought she’d get a warm reception. Girl couldn’t hack it and left there in a hurry. In the right situation, side eye can work miracles.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 5, 2018 • 10:07:31pm

And the satellite was successfully deployed.

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DodgerFan1988  Mar 5, 2018 • 10:12:43pm

“Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth.” - Nazi Propaganda Minister Joseph Goebbels

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whitebeach  Mar 5, 2018 • 10:15:44pm

I just saw a dumb-ass car commercial that asked what car you would want if you knew it was your car for the rest of your life. Apparently you were supposed to choose a specific pickup truck. My instantaneous thought, in contradiction to this, was a Rolls-Royce* with a lifetime service contract. Other lizards’ opinions may differ.

*Sadly, I think a Ferrari is too young for me.

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Single-handed sailor  Mar 5, 2018 • 10:29:39pm

re: #178 whitebeach

I just saw a dumb-ass car commercial that asked what car you would want if you knew it was your car for the rest of your life. Apparently you were supposed to choose a specific pickup truck. My instantaneous thought, in contradiction to this, was a Rolls-Royce* with a lifetime service contract. Other lizards’ opinions may differ.

*Sadly, I think a Ferrari is too young for me.

Bentley Continental GT, with a lifetime service contract.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 5, 2018 • 10:32:35pm

re: #175 majii

And the second she loses her usefulness, the GOP will throw Condoleeza Rice under a bus just as fast as they did Michael Steele, Omarosa Manigault, and Caitlin Jenner.

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austin_blue  Mar 5, 2018 • 10:35:48pm

re: #99 Ace Rothstein

Remember back in 1983 when the Marine barracks in Beirut were bombed and 300 people were killed? Ya know how many hearings were had? One.

I had two friends who were kids I grew up with who died in that attack. They are both buried together at Arlington, about 5 headstones apart. My mom and my dad are also in that giant bone orchard.

When I was sitting SAC alert, in the early 80’s we had six B-52 alert shots and six KC-135s to refuel them out of K. I. Sawyer AFB in Marquette, Michigan. Missions 1 and 2 were penetrators, loaded up with 12 Short Range Attack Missiles (SRAMs) on two rotary launchers in the two bomb bays that were “targets of opportunity” birds, attacking active radars that came up on them, clearing the way for the bombers behind them. The post strike landing bases for those birds were in Isfahan, Iran. (Keep in mind, this was *after* the revolution. We still had agreements with Iran.) Missions 3 and 4 were known as “The Eastern European Heating Authority” flights, with four 1.3 megaton gravity weapons in the front bomb bay and six SRAMs on a single rotary launcher in the aft bomb bay. Mission 5 was an urban/industrial flight into the Moscow area, armed up with the same weapons load as 3 and 4. Post strike landing base was Incirlik, Turkey. Mission six was a Strategic Reserve flight which would land in Cold Lake, Alberta with it’s tanker and see if there was anything left to kill, and then go kill it. Same weapons load as 3, 4, and 5.

So Iran and Turkey were kind of problematical after a nuclear exchange, and we were issued .38 pistols with 4” barrels as service weapons. So I, like many of my fellow pilots, decided to arm up. I bought a .41 magnum Dan Wesson pistol pack (heavy vent rib with five speed loaders) and an H&K 91 full auto in 7.62 NATO.

Safe, single, 3-shot burst, and full auto settings on the selector. Shot it once on full auto and ended up with the barrel up and to the right at about 15 degrees after eight shots. Never fired it again more than burst mode which was controllable.

Twenty round clips, which were large enough to tape three together for a 60 round package. Cost me $900 for the gun and $200 for the license. Sold it it in ‘85. Sold the Dan Wesson around ‘88. I’ve got a shotgun and a deer rifle.

When R’s say that D’s are ignorant of guns, I’ve got to laugh. I’ve been hunting for 50 years, and I can put a three shot 7.62 group in a half dollar at 300 yards with my rifle.

Venison tastes *good*.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 5, 2018 • 10:45:14pm

re: #99 Ace Rothstein

Remember back in 1983 when the Marine barracks in Beirut were bombed and 300 people were killed? Ya know how many hearings were had? One.

I remember because I was deployed from the Caribbean Sea to the Eastern Mediterranean Sea aboard USS America to assist in the evacuation and retaliation.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 5, 2018 • 10:50:41pm

re: #178 whitebeach

I just saw a dumb-ass car commercial that asked what car you would want if you knew it was your car for the rest of your life. Apparently you were supposed to choose a specific pickup truck. My instantaneous thought, in contradiction to this, was a Rolls-Royce* with a lifetime service contract. Other lizards’ opinions may differ.

*Sadly, I think a Ferrari is too young for me.

1969 Ford Mustang fastback. Candy-apple red.

I’m a simple man.

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austin_blue  Mar 5, 2018 • 10:52:46pm

re: #182 Anymouse 🌹

I remember because I was deployed from the Caribbean Sea to the Eastern Mediterranean Sea aboard USS America to assist in the evacuation and retaliation.

Two days later, we invaded Grenada. USA! USA!

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 5, 2018 • 10:57:57pm

re: #38 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

On that sorta-topic, I am starting to watch MacGyver. I got turned on to Richard Dean Anderson with his work on the sci-fi series Stargate: SG1, but this is the first time I’ve seen his earlier work available for streaming. And now I get to watch him in his younger years. Mrs. Fish is having a fangirl-gasm.

My wife turned onto him in the eighties as MacGyver and was an avid fan of Stargate as well.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 5, 2018 • 11:01:50pm
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austin_blue  Mar 5, 2018 • 11:05:07pm

re: #183 Dr Lizardo

1969 Ford Mustang fastback. Candy-apple red.

I’m a simple man.

And there it is, with the 428 Cobra Jet.

google.com:

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 5, 2018 • 11:06:07pm
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austin_blue  Mar 5, 2018 • 11:09:46pm

re: #186 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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This level of dog porn can get annoying as click bait!

Aaah, not really. Good doggie!

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 5, 2018 • 11:17:40pm
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austin_blue  Mar 5, 2018 • 11:21:49pm

re: #190 Anymouse 🌹

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Tom Lehrer - Wernher von Braun

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austin_blue  Mar 5, 2018 • 11:53:34pm

Oh, and you should listen to this one:

Tom Lehrer - The Elements - LIVE FILM From Copenhagen in 1967

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 6, 2018 • 12:03:12am

re: #187 austin_blue

And there it is, with the 428 Cobra Jet.

google.com:

Yep…..there we go. That’s all I need.

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Scout  Mar 6, 2018 • 12:08:24am
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austin_blue  Mar 6, 2018 • 12:16:03am

re: #194 Scout

And now we get this:

In reversal, former Trump aide says he’ll probably cooperate

Sounds like his former boss! Who did he talk to last?

These people have no clue how to govern. It’s like watching the Keystone Kops running the White House.

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Amory Blaine  Mar 6, 2018 • 12:16:45am
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Amory Blaine  Mar 6, 2018 • 12:22:06am

Scott Walker says he wants to “divide and conquer” Wisconsin

Scott Walker says he wants to “divide and conquer” Wisconsin

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 6, 2018 • 12:22:51am

Ah, the good old days of the campaign, when Donald Trump said he would have no time for golf as President.

trumpgolfcount.com
(number of days he’s been golfing that can be confirmed, along with the cost to the US tax payers in tens of millions of dollars)

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 6, 2018 • 12:24:51am

re: #195 austin_blue

Sounds like his former boss! Who did he talk to last?

These people have no clue how to govern. It’s like watching the Keystone Kops running the White House.

Perhaps he got a call from the Federal Marshal’s Service: Nice house here. Would be a shame if you couldn’t leave your jail cell to visit it.

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austin_blue  Mar 6, 2018 • 12:35:39am

I’m for the rack. Night all, sweet scaly dreams.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 6, 2018 • 12:44:08am

LOL

The Republicans in the WVa state senate, who went all “fiscal conservative” on the state’s teachers and stated they would vote against the raise the house passed, accidentally passed the house version of the bill, passing the 5% raise.

The state senate is now working on a bill to repeal the raise, with Democrats and parents in opposition.

No matter where you put conservatives in charge, they cannot govern. In no place, at any time. They can’t even screw their own employees correctly.

addictinginfo.com

The senate passed an amendment to overturn the bill and sent it over to the house, which rejected the senate amendment. (Long thread on the blow by blow in the WVa senate):

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 6, 2018 • 12:59:22am

re: #202 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Cernovich told Jones that it’s “life or death now” for conservatives in the public sphere.

“This isn’t the usual, ‘We’re under an attack, thank you for the support, share links.’ No, no, no. This is—we’re done, we’re off the internet, they’re banning us,” Cernovich said, before rehashing the same talking point about Christian persecution we wrote about last week.

He later added, “They want us in gulags, Alex. I don’t know what more to say. Death camps are coming.”

These people are insane.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 6, 2018 • 1:04:55am

re: #203 Dr Lizardo

These people are insane.

Hey, we couldn’t get the death camps and gulags right under Obama; what makes Cernovich think we can get away with it under a GOP administration?

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wheat-dogg  Mar 6, 2018 • 1:11:10am

re: #203 Dr Lizardo

Losing a Twitter account or YouTube channel is NOT the same thing as being “off the Internet,” bozos. There are other platforms there to peddle your CT wares.

What you did lose was all those followers and the ad revenue from monetizing the YT channel. That’s what you’re really sore about.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Mar 6, 2018 • 1:11:26am

re: #202 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

He later added, “They want us in gulags, Alex. I don’t know what more to say. Death camps are coming.”

Since these lying fascists are 100% antivaxx, anyplace where they gather for long is likely to turn into a death camp.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 6, 2018 • 1:13:01am

re: #205 wheat-dogg

Losing a Twitter account or YouTube channel is NOT the same thing as being “off the Internet,” bozos. There are other platforms there to peddle your CT wares.

What you did lose was all those followers and the ad revenue from monetizing the YT channel. That’s what you’re really sore about.

That’s a bingo.

That is how you say that, right?

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 6, 2018 • 1:14:38am
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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 6, 2018 • 1:18:17am

re: #205 wheat-dogg

Losing a Twitter account or YouTube channel is NOT the same thing as being “off the Internet,” bozos. There are other platforms there to peddle your CT wares.

What you did lose was all those followers and the ad revenue from monetizing the YT channel. That’s what you’re really sore about.

They can join the atheist YouTubers whose AdSense revenue was nuked months ago in the “adpocalypse” because atheism is a “controversial topic.” Or over at Reddit, where /r/atheism requires you confirm you are eighteen years old because talking about such a controversial subject is so much worse than justifying rape, genocide, and slavery (Bible channels do not require you to confirm you are eighteen).

Alex Jones is rich enough he can get his own video server. His right to free speech does not mean another company has to monetise it.

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Lupin  Mar 6, 2018 • 1:19:26am

re: #203 Dr Lizardo

He later added, “They want us in gulags, Alex. I don’t know what more to say. Death camps are coming.”

To the extent that they are always projecting their “sins” onto others, this means they want YOU in gulags and death camps.

Not surprising too; nazis of all kinds have always been exterminationists. Without resorting to Hitler, look at Argentina or Chile. If folks like Jones (our version of Julius Streicher, but less erudite) came into power, most of you here living on US soil would be “disappeared.”

I once had a Chilean TA who had just escaped being caught in Pinochet’s dragnet of various lefties and had been able to free the country, this saving his life, and he was prone to remind us that it had all been perfectly legal and sanctioned by their Supreme Court.

While your institutions are more solid than Chile’s were then, there is so much more potential for violence; you guys are engaged in an existential fight for survival.

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fern01  Mar 6, 2018 • 1:26:32am

re: #119 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Insider trading/knowledge does not exist in a Trump administration

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 6, 2018 • 1:33:11am

re: #210 Lupin

I live a long way from the borders, and don’t have a lot of money. (Someone here said they were doing a $250,000 house renovation, which is more money than I’ve ever had.)

Since Mr. Trump was inaugurated, my wife and I have kept our passports in our car’s glovebox in case a sudden trip to Canada or Mexico with no planning becomes necessary.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 6, 2018 • 1:42:14am

South Korean envoys and Kim Jong Un see ‘satisfactory result’ of meeting (goes to UPI)

SEOUL, March 5 (UPI) — South Korean envoys reached an understanding with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un during their four hour meeting in Pyongyang on Monday.

South Korea’s Presidential Spokesman Kim Eui-gyeom said Tuesday that the five-member delegation dispatched by President Moon Jae-in met with the North Korean leader for dinner and talks from 6 p.m. local time.

The meeting reportedly ended with a satisfactory “result,” which includes details of an inter-Korean summit, the spokesman said.

(more at UPI)

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 6, 2018 • 1:47:48am

LOL thread:

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 6, 2018 • 2:06:44am

LOL this thread after Mr. Wright posted this:

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Mar 6, 2018 • 2:22:09am

re: #215 Anymouse 🌹

LOL this thread after Mr. Wright posted this:

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Truth is a defense.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 6, 2018 • 2:32:53am

re: #216 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Truth is a defense.

And “the NRA is a terrorist organisation” is an opinion anyway. I don’t think you can be prosecuted or sued for opinions.

The wingnut in question who tried to flag him is apparently going through Twitter as fast as he can flagging anyone who expresses that opinion.

I presume if he had a real counter-argument he would make it. Instead, he’s afraid of speech.

Good.

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Lupin  Mar 6, 2018 • 2:34:34am

re: #216 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Truth is a defense.

Not against twitter, it isn’t. :-)

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Mar 6, 2018 • 2:38:32am

re: #210 Lupin

To the extent that they are always projecting their “sins” onto others, this means they want YOU in gulags and death camps.

Not surprising too; nazis of all kinds have always been exterminationists. Without resorting to Hitler, look at Argentina or Chile. If folks like Jones (our version of Julius Streicher, but less erudite) came into power, most of you here living on US soil would be “disappeared.”

I once had a Chilean TA who had just escaped being caught in Pinochet’s dragnet of various lefties and had been able to free the country, this saving his life, and he was prone to remind us that it had all been perfectly legal and sanctioned by their Supreme Court.

While your institutions are more solid than Chile’s were then, there is so much more potential for violence; you guys are engaged in an existential fight for survival.

This well observed tendency makes me wonder if their emphasis on pedophile and false flag operations is more than just lowest common denominator invective.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 6, 2018 • 2:42:38am

re: #219 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Interestingly, way back when Alex Jones was first getting his start on Austin public access, he called into the Atheist Experience show (which also appeared on Austin public access at the time).

He was a wingnut in the clip then (this was many years ago). (4:35)

Alex Jones of InfoWars - Humanism | Alex Jones - Austin, TX | Atheist Experience 142

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Lupin  Mar 6, 2018 • 2:45:58am

Re the Tariffs War, the EU is as we speak gathering support from Canada, Mexico, Brazil, South Korea, Japan, Australia and Turkey to form a coalition that would “punish” US exports in a “proportionate” and “equivalent” manner.

article (in English)

Macron affirms we must react swiftly, etc. The European Parliament is up in arms.

As the drums of trade war keep sounding louder, the EU Commission is trying to tone down the rhetoric in order to avoid the situation getting out of control with the “unpredictable” US president.

But yesterday, the EU Commission reviewed a plan that would include billions in levies on U.S. exports, that in 2003 helped them vanquish GW Bush in a similar spat.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 6, 2018 • 2:56:10am

re: #221 Lupin

Re the Tariffs War, the EU is as we speak gathering support from Canada, Mexico, Brazil, South Korea, Japan, Australia and Turkey to form a coalition that would “punish” US exports in a “proportionate” and “equivalent” manner.

article (in English)

Macron affirms we must react swiftly, etc. The European Parliament is up in arms.

As the drums of trade war keep sounding louder, the EU Commission is trying to tone down the rhetoric in order to avoid the situation getting out of control with the “unpredictable” US president.

But yesterday, the EU Commission reviewed a plan that would include billions in levies on U.S. exports, that in 2003 helped them vanquish GW Bush in a similar spat.

If they’re smart they’ll target their tariffs on products from States that Trump barely won. That will get his attention in a hurry.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 6, 2018 • 2:59:35am

re: #221 Lupin

LOL:

EU officials explained that the Commission is in contact with other affected countries, including Canada, Brazil, South Korea, Japan, Australia and Turkey.

European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker described the announcement made by Trump as “stupid”.

But “we can also do stupid”, he said last Friday.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 6, 2018 • 3:00:28am

re: #222 goddamnedfrank

If they’re smart they’ll target their tariffs on products from States that Trump barely won. That will get his attention in a hurry.

They’ve already said they would target Harley-Davidson motorcycles (which is why Scott Walker called on Trump to abandon the idea), Levi’s products, and Florida citrus.

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Lupin  Mar 6, 2018 • 3:01:24am

re: #222 goddamnedfrank

If they’re smart they’ll target their tariffs on products from States that Trump barely won. That will get his attention in a hurry.

Harley-Davidson is based in Wisconsin, home state of Paul Ryan, and Bourbon is mainly produced in Tennessee and Kentucky, home of Mitch McConnell,

Officials in Brussels insist the list dates back to the last major commercial dispute in 2003 but acknowledged this had been recently adapted.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 6, 2018 • 3:09:00am

re: #220 Anymouse 🌹

Wasn’t Jones really big into Waco stuff, you know, after the Branch Davidian standoff? I could swear that’s when I first heard the name ‘Alex Jones’ - it would’ve been shortly after the horrific conclusion to that standoff.

Maybe I’m getting him confused with another wackaloon.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 6, 2018 • 3:16:38am

re: #226 Dr Lizardo

Wasn’t Jones really big into Waco stuff, you know, after the Branch Davidian standoff? I could swear that’s when I first heard the name ‘Alex Jones’ - it would’ve been shortly after the horrific conclusion to that standoff.

Maybe I’m getting him confused with another wackaloon.

Yes. Alex Jones did a whole “documentary” on Waco.

Link behind the privacy bar. (1:46:19, with appropriate scary music)

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 6, 2018 • 3:25:29am

One for Teleskiguy: Maybe you should ask Governor Hickenlooper to do this /s

Utah Governor prays for snow.

Utah Governor Uses Position to Pray For Snow

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 6, 2018 • 3:30:59am

re: #227 Anymouse 🌹

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darthstar  Mar 6, 2018 • 3:33:04am
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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 6, 2018 • 3:34:26am

No precipitation in the local weather for the next week here, but a second day of fifty mph winds.

forecast.weather.gov

My wife went into town yesterday and had real trouble keeping our little car on the road. She kept her speed down to thirty or so to keep control of the car.

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jeffreyw  Mar 6, 2018 • 3:36:50am

Imgur


Good morning!

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darthstar  Mar 6, 2018 • 3:40:16am

re: #232 jeffreyw

[Embedded content]

Good morning!

Anybody see the cat?

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 6, 2018 • 3:40:52am

re: #233 darthstar

Anybody see the cat?

The birds ate the cat.

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darthstar  Mar 6, 2018 • 3:42:39am
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darthstar  Mar 6, 2018 • 3:43:17am

re: #234 Anymouse 🌹

The birds ate the cat.

That’s what I was thinking. Place is getting popular.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 6, 2018 • 3:49:31am

re: #236 darthstar

That’s what I was thinking. Place is getting popular.

Calling Alfred Hitchcock… .

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darthstar  Mar 6, 2018 • 3:51:44am
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darthstar  Mar 6, 2018 • 3:52:33am

Stupid show lawsuit - some 20 year old wants to buy a gun at Dick’s. Just ask your dad to get it for you douchebag.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 6, 2018 • 3:55:10am
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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 6, 2018 • 3:57:06am
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darthstar  Mar 6, 2018 • 3:59:05am
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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 6, 2018 • 4:00:32am

re: #242 darthstar

And they call liberals “snowflakes.” Is there anything that isn’t projection? Anything?

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darthstar  Mar 6, 2018 • 4:05:59am
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Jay C  Mar 6, 2018 • 4:06:36am

re: #223 Anymouse 🌹

re: #221 Lupin

LOL:

EU officials explained that the Commission is in contact with other affected countries, including Canada, Brazil, South Korea, Japan, Australia and Turkey.

European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker described the announcement made by Trump as “stupid”.

But “we can also do stupid”, he said last Friday.

Not a good sign: these are Europeans - they’ve had centuries to perfect the art of “doing stupid” - hell, they were formulating and executing stupid policies since the US still belonged to the Indians. They are pros at the game…

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 6, 2018 • 4:17:29am

re: #244 darthstar

That’s why we need to elect more Democrats, because the GOP only uses us veterans and active duty as props to drive their voters to the polls. They don’t care about us, and never did.

Funding the VA does a lot more for me than waving the flag and mouthing platitudes.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 6, 2018 • 4:18:31am

re: #167 Anymouse 🌹

All the best in your candidacy! Sounds very exciting.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Mar 6, 2018 • 4:21:43am

re: #220 Anymouse 🌹

Interestingly, way back when Alex Jones was first getting his start on Austin public access, he called into the Atheist Experience show (which also appeared on Austin public access at the time).

He was a wingnut in the clip then (this was many years ago). (4:35)

[Embedded content]

Video

In conventional political terms, Jones was all over the map then, as now. His show had some appeal to local lefties because of his attacks on the military, law enforcement, corporations, and the Bush family. His brand of anti-science also emphasized new age woo like UFOs and ESP over religious right anti-science like creationism. Libertarianism was not a well understood concept among the mass audience at that time. He was also publicly agnostic then, which certainly did not endear him to conventional wingnuts. It is a subject he avoids these days.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 6, 2018 • 4:37:41am

re: #248 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

In conventional political terms, Jones was all over the map then, as now.

Like Rush, he is first and foremost a businessman, and he directs his content at a target audience so he can charge more for his advertising time.
One can only admire these fellows for attracting such a large and homogeneous audience to make their advertising time that profitable.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 6, 2018 • 4:55:47am
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MsJ  Mar 6, 2018 • 4:55:54am

re: #194 Scout

And now we get this:

In reversal, former Trump aide says he’ll probably cooperate

OMG! Does anyone else see 1000 arrows pointing directly at this clowns relationship with Carter Page?

But in his call with the AP, Nunberg said he might be more willing to comply if Mueller’s team limits the scope of its request.

“I’m happy if the scope changes and if they send me a subpoena that doesn’t include Carter Page,” he said, insisting the two had never spoken.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 6, 2018 • 4:59:01am

Alabama Senator advances a Ten Commandments state constitution amendment to display that in all public schools to “deter school shootings.”

Cause ya know, Separation of Church and State really isn’t a thing to conservatives, nor is a practical solution like regulating firearms.

alreporter.com
(Alabama Political Reporter, more at the link)

The Alabama Senate on Tuesday approved a bill by Sen. Gerald Dial, R-Lineville, that would authorize a state referendum on whether to allow the display of the Ten Commandments on public property and public schools — a proposal he says may prevent some mass shootings.

The bill passed the Legislature’s upper chamber by a vote of 23 to 3 after Dial told lawmakers that displaying the Ten Commandments might dissuade some school shooters from carrying out an attack.

“I believe that if you had the Ten Commandments posted in a prominent place in school, it has the possibility to prohibit some student from taking action to kill other students,” Dial said.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 6, 2018 • 5:01:07am

re: #252 Anymouse 🌹

More magical thinking.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 6, 2018 • 5:04:21am

re: #252 Anymouse 🌹

Alabama Senator advances a Ten Commandments state constitution amendment to display that in all public schools to “deter school shootings.”

“I believe that if you had the Ten Commandments posted in a prominent place in school, it has the possibility to prohibit some student from taking action to kill other students,” Dial said.

The Ten commandments: scientifically proven to be three times more effective than both Thoughts and Prayers combined!!!

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Mar 6, 2018 • 5:08:46am

re: #252 Anymouse 🌹

Alabama Senator advances a Ten Commandments state constitution amendment to display that in all public schools to “deter school shootings.”

Cause ya know, Separation of Church and State really isn’t a thing to conservatives, nor is a practical solution like regulating firearms.

alreporter.com
(Alabama Political Reporter, more at the link)

A hundred years ago, westerners mocked superstitious shamanists who believed that magic would shield them from enemy bullets. The Chinese “Boxers” and various African groups were usually cited. As far as anyone knows, all were proven wrong. Nevertheless, the tradition apparently continues with the superstitious natives of Alabama.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 6, 2018 • 5:27:06am

re: #255 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

A hundred years ago, westerners mocked superstitious shamanists who believed that magic would shield them from enemy bullets. The Chinese “Boxers” and various African groups were usually cited. As far as anyone knows, all were proven wrong. Nevertheless, the tradition apparently continues with the superstitious natives of Alabama.

because they were heathens and barbarians, not believers in The True Faith

/

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 6, 2018 • 5:33:09am

re: #255 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

A hundred years ago, westerners mocked superstitious shamanists who believed that magic would shield them from enemy bullets. The Chinese “Boxers” and various African groups were usually cited. As far as anyone knows, all were proven wrong. Nevertheless, the tradition apparently continues with the superstitious natives of Alabama.

What a bunch of primitive screwheads.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 6, 2018 • 5:33:23am

re: #253 wheat-dogg

More magical thinking.

a) Pass unconstitutional bill to add amendment to state constitution.
b) Challenge to amendment in court.
c) State spends tens of millions of dollars defending amendment.
d) Amendment struck down as an unconstitutional marking like fire hydrants of public schools with religious indoctrination.
e) Cut education budget to pay for court fights.
f) Profit.

That is why conservatives do things like this. They aren’t meant to stand up to court scrutiny. They are meant to drain public school budgets.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 6, 2018 • 5:35:47am

re: #258 Anymouse 🌹

a) Pass unconstitutional bill to add amendment to state constitution.
b) Challenge to amendment in court.
c) State spends tens of millions of dollars defending amendment.
d) Amendment struck down as an unconstitutional marking like fire hydrants of public schools with religious indoctrination.
e) Cut education budget to pay for court fights.
f) Profit.

That is why conservatives do things like this. They aren’t meant to stand up to court scrutiny. They are meant to drain public school budgets.

Well that and they’re stunts for the RR who believe the worst bs about public schools but that does go with your aforementioned point about the budget for schools.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 6, 2018 • 5:40:07am

Oh my God!

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 6, 2018 • 5:41:14am

re: #259 HappyWarrior

Well that and they’re stunts for the RR who believe the worst bs about public schools but that does go with your aforementioned point about the budget for schools.

It’s also like all these ridiculous court fights over city council invocations, despite Town of Greece v Galloway where they try to prohibit non-Christian religious leaders or atheists from offering invocations.

My town has no such invocation and never did. We just get down to the job at hand.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 6, 2018 • 5:43:57am

re: #260 Dave In Austin

Oh my God!

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Someone sounds jealous.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 6, 2018 • 5:44:45am

re: #261 Anymouse 🌹

It’s also like all these ridiculous court fights over city council invocations, despite Town of Greece v Galloway where they try to prohibit non-Christian religious leaders or atheists from offering invocations.

My town has no such invocation and never did. We just get down to the job at hand.

Right and that’s also meant to make non Christians feel unwelcome.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Mar 6, 2018 • 5:56:52am

re: #260 Dave In Austin

Oh my God!

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Get the giant net

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 6, 2018 • 5:57:57am

re: #263 HappyWarrior

Right and that’s also meant to make non Christians feel unwelcome.

I watched a clip of an Arizona city meeting, where all the Republicans got up and walked out at the start of an invocation by an atheist.

At that second if I was sitting on that town board, I would have demanded a quorum count, and upon determining the majority of the city council had left, suspended the meeting.

I forget which state it is, but after a Democratic lawmaker (Virginia?) invited an imam to give the opening invocation, the chaplaincy office for the legislature wrote a new rule to prohibit inviting anyone except a leader in your church/mosque/synagogue &c.

That has the effect of banning Muslims and atheists (no Muslim members of the legislature, no atheist members, no atheist organisation ordains ministers).

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 6, 2018 • 5:59:11am

From Glenn Beck’s parallel universe-Hollywood dream to reports about how PragerU is invigorating an emerging conservative intellectual surge (this morning on FnF, elsewhere), there is some dream the “SJWs” are going to be put in their places. Trump’s tweet is latching on to that.

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dangerman  Mar 6, 2018 • 5:59:59am

re: #224 Anymouse 🌹

They’ve already said they would target Harley-Davidson motorcycles (which is why Scott Walker called on Trump to abandon the idea), Levi’s products, and Florida citrus.

And Kentucky bourbon (McConnell)

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 6, 2018 • 6:07:23am

re: #266 Barefoot Grin

From Glenn Beck’s parallel universe-Hollywood dream to reports about how PragerU is invigorating an emerging conservative intellectual surge (this morning on FnF, elsewhere), there is some dream the “SJWs” are going to be put in their places. Trump’s tweet is latching on to that.

PragerU. Dennis Prager, former Orthodox Jew who converted to Christianity, dropped out of college, demands politicians swear in on a Bible or they are “violating their oath of office,” and started a diploma mill? Yup, that’s conservatism. He missed the trifecta: He hasn’t been convicted of anything yet

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dangerman  Mar 6, 2018 • 6:07:31am

re: #252 Anymouse 🌹

“I believe that if you had the Ten Commandments posted in a prominent place in school, it has the possibility to prohibit some student from taking action to kill other students

Fill in the already talked about 1000 solutions of your choice

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 6, 2018 • 6:10:18am

re: #269 dangerman

“I believe that if you had the Ten Commandments posted in a prominent place in school, it has the possibility to prohibit some student from taking action to kill other students

Fill in the already talked about 1000 solutions of your choice

How about X Commandments posters made out of Kevlar? You could use it as a shield (but so could the shooter). /s

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makeitstop  Mar 6, 2018 • 6:11:30am

I’m surprised that no one mentioned Chuck Connors in ‘Branded’ in the conversation about anti-heroes in old TV Westerns.

Branded TV Series Theme Song

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Mar 6, 2018 • 6:13:45am

re: #269 dangerman

“I believe that if you had the Ten Commandments posted in a prominent place in school, it has the possibility to prohibit some student from taking action to kill other students

Fill in the already talked about 1000 solutions of your choice

Ferengi Rules of Acquisition? Nah, I don’t think conservatives would be that honest.

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dangerman  Mar 6, 2018 • 6:14:25am

re: #269 dangerman

“I believe that if you had the Ten Commandments posted in a prominent place in school, it has the possibility to prohibit some student from taking action to kill other students

Fill in the already talked about 1000 solutions of your choice

in case i wasnt clear enough

the general nra/gop response to everything is “it wont work”
marco said it many times in the last few weeks
background checks, age restrictions, registrations, “assault rifle bans”, and on and on

if the new standard is “has the possibility…” - then we should be willing to try them all, and right quick!

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 6, 2018 • 6:14:41am

They will never stop until we’re in a new Dark Age.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 6, 2018 • 6:15:30am
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ObserverArt  Mar 6, 2018 • 6:18:42am

re: #232 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Are you running a “special” at Jeffrey’s Fly-In Diner today? Place is packed.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 6, 2018 • 6:19:37am

re: #266 Barefoot Grin

From Glenn Beck’s parallel universe-Hollywood dream to reports about how PragerU is invigorating an emerging conservative intellectual surge (this morning on FnF, elsewhere), there is some dream the “SJWs” are going to be put in their places. Trump’s tweet is latching on to that.

Lol, Bovine University carries more weight than Prager U. For people who claim liberals live in echo chambers, conservatives do it tons more themselves.

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MsJ  Mar 6, 2018 • 6:19:53am

I have the weirdest followers. This guy just followed me:

Internationally Recognized Hair Transplant Surgeon Hair Transplant Centre 1-8XX-7XX-4XXXX (HAIR).

And Barack Obama follows him (yes, the real Barack).

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HappyWarrior  Mar 6, 2018 • 6:21:05am

re: #265 Anymouse 🌹

I watched a clip of an Arizona city meeting, where all the Republicans got up and walked out at the start of an invocation by an atheist.

At that second if I was sitting on that town board, I would have demanded a quorum count, and upon determining the majority of the city council had left, suspended the meeting.

I forget which state it is, but after a Democratic lawmaker (Virginia?) invited an imam to give the opening invocation, the chaplaincy office for the legislature wrote a new rule to prohibit inviting anyone except a leader in your church/mosque/synagogue &c.

That has the effect of banning Muslims and atheists (no Muslim members of the legislature, no atheist members, no atheist organisation ordains ministers).

I don’t think it was Va. Wouldn’t have flown here. Republicans/conservatives can’t tooera anything other than conservative Christianity or if they’re having a good day, Judaism.

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ObserverArt  Mar 6, 2018 • 6:21:32am

re: #240 Dave In Austin

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If there is one photo on the internet that pisses me off more than Lunkhead Jr. with the severed elephant’s tail I don’t know what it would be. And there are a lot of upsetting images.

I so hope there is karma payback for that act.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 6, 2018 • 6:22:00am

re: #278 MsJ

I have the weirdest followers. This guy just followed me:

Internationally Recognized Hair Transplant Surgeon Hair Transplant Centre 1-8XX-7XX-4XXXX (HAIR).

And Barack Obama follows him (yes, the real Barack).

Is Barack Obama’s new job “Hair Transplant Surgeon?”

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HappyWarrior  Mar 6, 2018 • 6:22:39am

re: #281 Anymouse 🌹

Is Barack Obama’s new job “Hair Transplant Surgeon?”

Soros stopped paying the bills.//

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 6, 2018 • 6:22:44am

re: #268 Anymouse 🌹

PragerU. Dennis Prager, former Orthodox Jew who converted to Christianity, dropped out of college, demands politicians swear in on a Bible or they are “violating their oath of office,” and started a diploma mill? Yup, that’s conservatism. He missed the trifecta: He hasn’t been convicted of anything yet

Maybe he’ll be convicted for running a diploma mill.

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MsJ  Mar 6, 2018 • 6:23:46am

re: #281 Anymouse 🌹

Is Barack Obama’s new job “Hair Transplant Surgeon?”

No. This guy is a hair transplant surgeon in Canada. And, for whatever reason, Obama is following him.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 6, 2018 • 6:24:31am

re: #283 Dr Lizardo

Maybe he’ll be convicted for running a diploma mill.

I get ads for his joke in my FB feed because I have a few friends that buy his shit. I’m going to point out to them that Denny is inspiration for Officer Barbrady on South Park.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 6, 2018 • 6:25:42am

re: #284 MsJ

No. This guy is a hair transplant surgeon in Canada. And, for whatever reason, Obama is following him.

For some reason I’m thinking of the ad for Maury’s wigs in Goodfellas.

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 6, 2018 • 6:25:46am

re: #268 Anymouse 🌹

PragerU. Dennis Prager, former Orthodox Jew who converted to Christianity, dropped out of college, demands politicians swear in on a Bible or they are “violating their oath of office,” and started a diploma mill? Yup, that’s conservatism. He missed the trifecta: He hasn’t been convicted of anything yet

Article 6 paragraph 3 of US Constitution:

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.

The guy is a fucking moron leading around morons.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 6, 2018 • 6:27:23am

re: #279 HappyWarrior

I don’t think it was Va. Wouldn’t have flown here. Republicans/conservatives can’t tooera anything other than conservative Christianity or if they’re having a good day, Judaism.

You’re correct. I tracked it down on the atheist forum I run because I remember noting it when it happened. It is Oklahoma (I remember why I left that state: Mary Fallin was elected and we got the heck out).

patheos.com

Trevor Brown of Oklahoma Watch obtained a copy of that letter and notes that the rules effectively shut out religious minorities and atheists from delivering those invocations.

That’s because Strohm’s letter makes clear that his colleagues should nominate speakers from “the representative’s own place of worship”… Which is very convenient when the Oklahoma State House is overwhelmingly Christian.

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ObserverArt  Mar 6, 2018 • 6:28:10am

re: #246 Anymouse 🌹

That’s why we need to elect more Democrats, because the GOP only uses us veterans and active duty as props to drive their voters to the polls. They don’t care about us, and never did.

Funding the VA does a lot more for me than waving the flag and mouthing platitudes.

I wish that sentiment would be made more clear for conservatives to have to deal with that reality. They fall for the BS every time.

Is there some kind of a Veterans Group that addresses the politics of that? Is there anyone that can let America know that a majority of veterans get screwed by GOP “all Talk-No Policy” every time and can site all the issues that get all the talk and none of the action?

It is needed. Democrats, liberals, progressives need to make this clear and maybe take that talking point away from the GOP and conservatives.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 6, 2018 • 6:28:11am

re: #255 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

A hundred years ago, westerners mocked superstitious shamanists who believed that magic would shield them from enemy bullets. The Chinese “Boxers” and various African groups were usually cited. As far as anyone knows, all were proven wrong. Nevertheless, the tradition apparently continues with the superstitious natives of Alabama.

The Ghost Dancers.

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lawhawk  Mar 6, 2018 • 6:30:52am

re: #260 Dave In Austin

Trump’s been busy tweeting about everything and anything but the fact that Nunberg basically stated that Trump knew or had reason to know of the Russia meeting in June 2016 before the meeting occurred and that Mueller’s already got info on Trump.

So, what’s Trump’s disorganized tweets about this morning?

The Oscars, DACA, etc.

This reactionary know nothing vulgarian is presiding over an admin that is looting and fleecing the Treasury at every opportunity. And they’re instituting the most extreme judiciary makeover in generations thanks to McConnell’s obstructionism preventing Obama from making nominations to the federal bench, including Garland’s stolen seat on the Supreme Court.

So much of what’s gone wrong with the nation can be traced not to Trump, but McConnell. And that too should be a vivid reminder that the GOP is the real problem here - Trump’s just a symptom of the moral rot.

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Belafon  Mar 6, 2018 • 6:31:31am

I did my voting in the primary this morning. I don’t think I’ve had that many people to choose in the Democratic primary TOTAL over the previous eight primaries.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 6, 2018 • 6:32:34am

re: #288 Anymouse 🌹

You’re correct. I tracked it down on the atheist forum I run because I remember noting it when it happened. It is Oklahoma (I remember why I left that state: Mary Fallin was elected and we got the heck out).

patheos.com

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Yeah I was going to say because we’ve had Dem governors except for 09-13 and while I don’t like McDonnell, I think he would have put a stop on that.

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Belafon  Mar 6, 2018 • 6:32:40am

re: #255 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

I think they need to prove to us that they’re willing to stand in front of a firing squad and prove that prayer will keep the bullets from hitting them.

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MsJ  Mar 6, 2018 • 6:33:44am
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HappyWarrior  Mar 6, 2018 • 6:34:19am

re: #295 MsJ

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Is he morning drinking or just plain dumb?

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 6, 2018 • 6:34:25am

re: #287 Eventual Carrion

Article 6 paragraph 3 of US Constitution:

The guy is a fucking moron leading around morons.

It’s amazing how many conservatives hold the same view. When I was elected, I had to get an opinion from the state attorney general because our state laws say you must take an oath under God. (I was prepared to challenge the law in court if he ruled I could not take an affirmation.)

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Decatur Deb  Mar 6, 2018 • 6:35:09am

re: #290 The Vicious Babushka

The Ghost Dancers.

“I wear the morning star.”

(I really do—it’s the retro tape symbol I put on the back of my motorcycle helmets.)

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dangerman  Mar 6, 2018 • 6:35:19am

re: #291 lawhawk

no don, it is in fact chaos:

turnover higher than the 5 most recent presidents

I find Trump’s turnover is record-setting, more than triple that of Obama and double that of Reagan. In looking at why Trump has experienced such high turnover, I argue he has valued loyalty over qualifications and suffered from a White House that has functioned in a chaotic manner.

my itals

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 6, 2018 • 6:35:20am

re: #294 Belafon

I think they need to prove to us that they’re willing to stand in front of a firing squad and prove that prayer will keep the bullets from hitting them.

Yeah….something like, “Just take a seat right here, buddy. Are you all nice and comfy? Good. Then let’s get this demo started, shall we?”

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Sir John Barron  Mar 6, 2018 • 6:36:42am

re: #266 Barefoot Grin

From Glenn Beck’s parallel universe-Hollywood dream to reports about how PragerU is invigorating an emerging conservative intellectual surge (this morning on FnF, elsewhere), there is some dream the “SJWs” are going to be put in their places. Trump’s tweet is latching on to that.

Good grief that dude runs his own “college”?

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 6, 2018 • 6:37:05am

re: #289 ObserverArt

I wish that sentiment would be made more clear for conservatives to have to deal with that reality. They fall for the BS every time.

Is there some kind of a Veterans Group that addresses the politics of that? Is there anyone that can let America know that a majority of veterans get screwed by GOP “all Talk-No Policy” every time and can site all the issues that get all the talk and none of the action?

It is needed. Democrats, liberals, progressives need to make this clear and maybe take that talking point away from the GOP and conservatives.

VoteVets addresses it. The large organisations (the VFW, American Legion, DAV, &c) all do the flag-waving religious stuff.

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MsJ  Mar 6, 2018 • 6:37:12am

re: #296 HappyWarrior

Is he morning drinking or just plain dumb?

That’s from last night. He apparently had a call with the AP and said that he’d cooperate with Mueller if the latter removed the Carter Page requirement…which Nunburg said he had zero contact with. If you had zero contact with this person, why exclude something that doesn’t supposedly exist.

Like I said…all roads lead to Page.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 6, 2018 • 6:38:12am

re: #301 Sir John Barron

Good grief that dude runs his own “college”?

Yup. Watch YouTube videos, get a diploma (for $).

Short break … Back in a while.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 6, 2018 • 6:38:45am

Morning Lizardim. What fresh hell awaits me upon my return from the snowpocalypse?

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HappyWarrior  Mar 6, 2018 • 6:38:57am

re: #301 Sir John Barron

Good grief that dude runs his own “college”?

Yeah you go there after you get an associates from the one D’Souza ran.//

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dangerman  Mar 6, 2018 • 6:41:13am

re: #294 Belafon

I think they need to prove to us that they’re willing to stand in front of a firing squad and prove that prayer will keep the bullets from hitting them.

i’d give them the benefit of the doubt

let them put up the 10 commandments - with a caption right under - “posted to deter shootings”

and in exchange, here’s a list of other things we’re gonna do at the same time that also have about the same possibility of deterring shootings

the new standard is “possibility”
they set it themselves

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lawhawk  Mar 6, 2018 • 6:41:16am

re: #299 dangerman

Trump brought in cronies with zero policy experience. He values loyalty to him over all else, including competency to do the job he’s intended for them to do.

So, between picking extremists who are intent on destroying the very departments they’re running and incompetents who are allowing agencies to falter and fail because they just don’t know what they’re doing, he’s got the government in a tailspin.

And his admin is a shitshow of rivalries who are intent on showing how loyal they are to Trump by throwing everyone else under the bus by claiming they aren’t sufficiently loyal to him.

It’s a cancerous and toxic environment, and Trump thinks that all this is normal, because this is how he runs his businesses (into the ground and has seem them become so highly leveraged that he’s compromised by all the money he owes to foreign countries and banks).

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 6, 2018 • 6:41:25am

re: #301 Sir John Barron

Good grief that dude runs his own “college”?

Yeah, a diploma mill, basically.

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ObserverArt  Mar 6, 2018 • 6:44:18am

re: #274 Anymouse 🌹

They will never stop until we’re in a new Dark Age.

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Modern Republican Party - You can turn back the clock!
If you are a knuckle dragger, we are your party. Take your country back, back, back, back to the beginning when everything was simple, men were manly and women never asked and there was no controls on your life. We were all FREE and we can be again.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 6, 2018 • 6:45:21am

re: #309 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, a diploma mill, basically.

If I were a hiring manager and I saw that on a resume, I’d put that behind a Liberty University degree because as bad as LU is, at least it seems to offer some education rather than being a cash scheme for Officer Barbrady’s inspiration.

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makeitstop  Mar 6, 2018 • 6:45:45am

Weatherman is calling for 6 to 12 inches of snow here tomorrow.

While I was in Florida, my wife texted to me that Lowe’s was running a clearance on snow blowers. She had the day off yesterday, so we went and got one.

This guarantees that we’ll be getting mostly rain tomorrow, because that is simply how things work.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 6, 2018 • 6:46:14am

re: #301 Sir John Barron

Good grief that dude runs his own “college”?

It’s even dodgier than Trump University.

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dangerman  Mar 6, 2018 • 6:47:57am

re: #308 lawhawk

Trump brought in cronies with zero policy experience. He values loyalty to him over all else, including competency to do the job he’s intended for them to do…./blockquote>

here’s a new one:


Top EPA Staffer Allowed to Have Private Clients

Norm Eisen: “This is insane. In the Obama White House, I even made people quit uncompensated non-profit outside positions because of conflicts risks. This is FOR profit work that could conflict with official duties. Prediction: by end of Trump admin, prisons will be full of his associates.”

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darthstar  Mar 6, 2018 • 6:49:02am
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lawhawk  Mar 6, 2018 • 6:50:05am

re: #312 makeitstop

Winter storm warnings are up for NYC metro. We’re probably in the 8-12 inch band of snow, but I’m thinking we might see more than that.

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lawhawk  Mar 6, 2018 • 6:51:43am
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MsJ  Mar 6, 2018 • 6:52:58am

re: #307 dangerman

i’d give them the benefit of the doubt

let them put up the 10 commandments - with a caption right under - “posted to deter shootings”

and in exchange, here’s a list of other things we’re gonna do at the same time that also have about the same possibility of deterring shootings

the new standard is “possibility”
they set it themselves

Can we make sure that Thoughts & Prayers (tm) are included?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 6, 2018 • 6:53:11am

re: #316 lawhawk

Winter storm warnings are up for NYC metro. We’re probably in the 8-12 inch band of snow, but I’m thinking we might see more than that.

We wound up getting 6” yesterday, with a little bit still left to come in during the day today (maybe an inch or so). The thing is, with the 20-30 mph winds, it piled up in places; my driveway was basically one large snowdrift that was over 2’ deep in places. Oh, and my snowblower broke down; I think I burned out the drive clutch. I’ll have to open her up this week and figure it out.

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MsJ  Mar 6, 2018 • 6:54:57am

re: #308 lawhawk

Trump brought in cronies with zero policy experience. He values loyalty to him over all else, including competency to do the job he’s intended for them to do.

So, between picking extremists who are intent on destroying the very departments they’re running and incompetents who are allowing agencies to falter and fail because they just don’t know what they’re doing, he’s got the government in a tailspin.

And his admin is a shitshow of rivalries who are intent on showing how loyal they are to Trump by throwing everyone else under the bus by claiming they aren’t sufficiently loyal to him.

It’s a cancerous and toxic environment, and Trump thinks that all this is normal, because this is how he runs his businesses (into the ground and has seem them become so highly leveraged that he’s compromised by all the money he owes to foreign countries and banks).

Eugene Robinson had a good article in the WaPo this morning.

washingtonpost.com

Trump and his family have refused to divest themselves of their businesses or even draw more than a flimsy veil between their official actions and the impact those actions have on their personal finances. Does the administration’s policy toward Panama really have nothing to do with a bitter dispute over the Trump-branded hotel in Panama City? Does the administration’s tough new attitude toward Qatar really have nothing to do with that nation’s refusal to invest in Jared Kushner’s debt-laden real estate company?

It’s not the potential answers to those questions that are so corrosive; it’s the questions themselves. As in many countries whose governance we scoff at, Americans must now wonder whether policy is being tailored for our leaders’ personal gain.

When the rule of law and financial probity can no longer be assumed, the vacuum is filled with conspiracy theories. The president himself is a conspiratorialist par excellence; he was, after all, the chief purveyor of the birther nonsense. Since neither his words nor those of his press office can be believed, it is natural — but incredibly damaging — to assume that the real story is being hidden from us, for reasons that must be nefarious.

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makeitstop  Mar 6, 2018 • 6:55:37am

re: #316 lawhawk

Winter storm warnings are up for NYC metro. We’re probably in the 8-12 inch band of snow, but I’m thinking we might see more than that.

I’m honestly not looking forward to this. Hopefully this will be winter’s last gasp and we can all move on to better seasons.

I’m looking out at the garden, and my wife’s lilies and orchids were fooled and have begun to sprout. They’re peeking out from under the leaf-and-mulch cover. Gonna be another late bloom this year after the snow decimates them again.

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lawhawk  Mar 6, 2018 • 6:56:01am

re: #319 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

That sucks about the snowblower. I killed my snowblower earlier this winter - it was an electric model and the impeller got so completely warped out of shape that it stopped spinning altogether. Picked up a replacement for cheap - Snow Joe has a outlet center not too far away, so it made sense to get one there. Even if it lasts a couple of seasons, it’s worth it and beats trying to shovel everything out by hand.

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MsJ  Mar 6, 2018 • 6:56:38am

re: #312 makeitstop

Weatherman is calling for 6 to 12 inches of snow here tomorrow.

While I was in Florida, my wife texted to me that Lowe’s was running a clearance on snow blowers. She had the day off yesterday, so we went and got one.

This guarantees that we’ll be getting mostly rain tomorrow, because that is simply how things work.

Congratulations for saving your region from a snowpocalypse!

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makeitstop  Mar 6, 2018 • 6:57:15am

re: #323 MsJ

Congratulations for saving your region from a snowpocalypse!

We do what we can. ;)

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HappyWarrior  Mar 6, 2018 • 6:57:46am

re: #317 lawhawk

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Poor baby. Karmas a bitch.

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dangerman  Mar 6, 2018 • 6:59:02am

re: #320 MsJ

Eugene Robinson had a good article in the WaPo this morning.

washingtonpost.com

It’s not the potential answers to those questions that are so corrosive; it’s the questions themselves.

not enough people see this - that the questions are being asked means it’s already gone too far

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MsJ  Mar 6, 2018 • 6:59:31am

re: #315 darthstar

(My profile pic is an Egyptian relic I took a picture of at the U of Penn exhibit.)

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MsJ  Mar 6, 2018 • 7:01:06am

re: #317 lawhawk

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ObserverArt  Mar 6, 2018 • 7:02:57am

re: #303 MsJ

That’s from last night. He apparently had a call with the AP and said that he’d cooperate with Mueller if the latter removed the Carter Page requirement…which Nunburg said he had zero contact with. If you had zero contact with this person, why exclude something that doesn’t supposedly exist.

Like I said…all roads lead to Page.

I don’t think Page would be singularly in charge of anything. What I do think is Roger Stone seems to have a group that did all the dirty work and the coordinating with the Russians. Let’s just call them Stoners, because they are wacky like they are stoned.

Part of the plan may be to act all outlandish and goofy so no one takes any one of them seriously. They may also be so goofy as to be dumb enough to take the fall so no higher up gets touched. True Believers that are expendable.

I think Stone and Manafort are tied together as they have been for a long long time. Manafort the brains and money handler, Stone the guy that gets the goofs together to pull the capers. Even Michael Cohen the lawyer might be part of the group…another useful idiot ready to cover for The Big Don.

And Nunberg may not have talked to Page or even know him directly. But he sure as hell knows who he is and staying away from Page in the investigations may allow him to do what he wants and that is protect Stone knowing that is the connection for him to the Trump campaign.

I think Mueller knows the whole game now and this is why he is applying pressure to Nunberg. He knows he isn’t that bright and so damn glib that he will give it up by trying to cover it up.

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dangerman  Mar 6, 2018 • 7:03:17am

re: #327 MsJ

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(My profile pic is an Egyptian relic I took a picture of at the U of Penn exhibit.)

you mean you’re not an actual dog that owns a twitter account?
i am now depressed

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Sir John Barron  Mar 6, 2018 • 7:03:31am

re: #316 lawhawk

Winter storm warnings are up for NYC metro. We’re probably in the 8-12 inch band of snow, but I’m thinking we might see more than that.

What the what?

Oh man.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 6, 2018 • 7:04:17am

re: #308 lawhawk

Trump brought in cronies with zero policy experience. He values loyalty to him over all else, including competency to do the job he’s intended for them to do.

A lot of qualified people he might have accepted for the jobs did not want to sully their reputations by association with the Trump administration. That is also a reason that he has to settle for loyalist hacks or leave vital positions unfilled.

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dangerman  Mar 6, 2018 • 7:05:00am

re: #328 MsJ

On a positive note, he won’t be homeless. He will be in prison for life.

On a negative note, we will be paying for his room and board for life.

part of the price of freedom is paying to prosecute and lock up those who would threaten it

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Lupin  Mar 6, 2018 • 7:05:33am

re: #255 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

A hundred years ago, westerners mocked superstitious shamanists who believed that magic would shield them from enemy bullets. The Chinese “Boxers” and various African groups were usually cited. As far as anyone knows, all were proven wrong. Nevertheless, the tradition apparently continues with the superstitious natives of Alabama.

The recent poll figures are interesting. My first thought was, given the Trump chaos, perhaps the worst in US history, why are not the Dems a gazillion points ahead?

I think there are two factors:

1) there are a significant number of “Never Ds” out there, and frankly there always will be, and

2) I think there is an incorrect assumption being made that some Americans want or even understand what’s good for them/their country.

It seems idiotic to suggest that people do not want the best outcome, but there are a lot of stupid/ignorant people out there.

I am reconciled to the belief that a lot of people voting for Trump didn’t do it foolishly but because they wanted out of everything that is the world of today; H*ll, they probably don’t even know what these “things” are or the consequences of rejecting them, but they sure voted to reject them.

In fact, I suspect many are looking at the Dems right now, and thinking, “what’s the point of voting Trump out if that’s what we get in his place?”

I don’t blame the Dems. The fact is, the whole sorry mess is solidly down to the Republicans, but I feel quite sure that many Americans are not ready (yet?) to swap chaos for a return to sanity.

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MsJ  Mar 6, 2018 • 7:07:49am

re: #329 ObserverArt

I don’t think Page would be singularly in charge of anything. What I do think is Roger Stone seems to have a group that did all the dirty work and the coordinating with the Russians. Let’s just call them Stoners, because they are wacky like they are stoned.

Part of the plan may be to act all outlandish and goofy so no one takes any one of them seriously. They may also be so goofy as to be dumb enough to take the fall so no higher up gets touched. True Believers that are expendable.

I think Stone and Manafort are tied together as they have been for a long long time. Manafort the brains and money handler, Stone the guy that gets the goofs together to pull that capers. Even Michael Cohen the lawyer might be part of the group…another useful idiot ready to cover for The Big Don.

And Nunberg may not have talked to Page or even know him directly. But he sure as hell knows who he is and staying away from Page in the investigations may allow him to do what he wants and that is protect Stone knowing that is the connection for him to the Trump campaign.

I think Mueller knows the whole game now and this is why he applying pressure to Nunberg. He knows he isn’t that bright and so damn glib that he will give it up by trying to cover it up.

While they may not have had emails to/from Page, I can guarantee that they discussed him and how they could play Fuck With Everyone (because, that’s Stone’s specialty). There has to be something extremely damaging in there for this to be the response.

And the funniest part is that Mueller almost certainly has this information already, making his entire exercise pointless.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 6, 2018 • 7:07:56am

re: #322 lawhawk

That sucks about the snowblower. I killed my snowblower earlier this winter - it was an electric model and the impeller got so completely warped out of shape that it stopped spinning altogether. Picked up a replacement for cheap - Snow Joe has a outlet center not too far away, so it made sense to get one there. Even if it lasts a couple of seasons, it’s worth it and beats trying to shovel everything out by hand.

This snowblower is more than 20 years old; it was my dad’s, he brought it north when he got a blade for his big truck. I’ve been running it and taking care of it ever since. I’m not sure if I am going to fix it or replace it. It runs brilliantly, but it is old enough that it might be a wiser investment to get a newer model.

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dangerman  Mar 6, 2018 • 7:08:43am

re: #329 ObserverArt

And Nunberg may not have talked to Page or even know him directly. But he sure as hell knows who he is and staying away from Page in the investigations may allow him to do what he wants and that is protect Stone knowing that is the connection for him to the Trump campaign.

also doesnt mean nunberg wasnt cc’d on stuff originated by or sent to paige
or that he had written/emailed conversations about him

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MsJ  Mar 6, 2018 • 7:09:02am

re: #330 dangerman

you mean you’re not an actual dog that owns a twitter account?
i am now depressed

Sorry. Not a dog.

His point, however, was that I was an ugly liberal dog, just like my profile pic.

Idiots, every last one.

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MsJ  Mar 6, 2018 • 7:09:39am

re: #333 dangerman

part of the price of freedom is paying to prosecute and lock up those who would threaten it

I am more than willing to have all my taxes go to housing these pricks for life. More than willing!

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dangerman  Mar 6, 2018 • 7:10:04am

re: #332 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

A lot of qualified people he might have accepted for the jobs did not want to sully their reputations by association with the Trump administration. That is also a reason that he has to settle for loyalist hacks or leave vital positions unfilled.

he certainly doesnt inspire people to greatness and excellence

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lawhawk  Mar 6, 2018 • 7:11:20am
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BadgerB  Mar 6, 2018 • 7:11:27am

re: #330 dangerman

you mean you’re not an actual dog that owns a twitter account?
i am now depressed

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 6, 2018 • 7:11:34am

re: #308 lawhawk

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HappyWarrior  Mar 6, 2018 • 7:14:07am

re: #341 lawhawk

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Daily reminder that Romney made this guy his immigration adviser.

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lawhawk  Mar 6, 2018 • 7:16:06am

re: #344 HappyWarrior

Daily reminder that Trump made Kobach his voter suppression guy.

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JordanRules  Mar 6, 2018 • 7:16:26am

re: #334 Lupin

Dems winning the Senate in Alabama is them being a gazillion points ahead.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 6, 2018 • 7:16:49am

re: #345 lawhawk

Daily reminder that Trump made Kobach his voter suppression guy.

Yep he’s tied to the GOP leadership. Kobach is scum, dangerous scum.

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MsJ  Mar 6, 2018 • 7:17:33am

re: #341 lawhawk

How is this not perjury? Is that not a jailable offense?

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dangerman  Mar 6, 2018 • 7:18:09am

re: #341 lawhawk

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kobach is a toad

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HappyWarrior  Mar 6, 2018 • 7:18:45am

re: #349 dangerman

kobach is a toad

Objection, unfair to toads.

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dangerman  Mar 6, 2018 • 7:19:11am

re: #342 BadgerB

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exactly

and im not sure i believe her anyway
why wouldnt a dog say that?

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ObserverArt  Mar 6, 2018 • 7:19:11am

re: #344 HappyWarrior

Daily reminder that Romney made this guy his immigration adviser.

re: #345 lawhawk

Daily reminder that Trump made Kobach his voter suppression guy.

Daily reminders that Romney is no different than any of the GOP flotsam.

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dangerman  Mar 6, 2018 • 7:21:56am

re: #343 Anymouse 🌹

Sarah Kendzior

@sarahkendzior
The real problem isn’t chaos, it’s massive corruption that is often pre-planned and effective. Chaos helps mask it though. Now I’ll watch pundits fight the chaos strawman instead of analyzing the corruption

the real problem isn’t re: #299 dangerman

it’s re: #320 MsJ

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MsJ  Mar 6, 2018 • 7:22:40am

re: #352 ObserverArt

Daily reminders that Romney is no different than any of the GOP flotsam.

Daily reminder that there is no sane GOPer. They hide it in various ways but they are all extremists who are intent on the destruction of America.

FullFuckingStop.

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dangerman  Mar 6, 2018 • 7:23:15am

re: #350 HappyWarrior

Objection, unfair to toads.

a metaphorical toad
not the cute and fuzzy ones

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 6, 2018 • 7:25:10am

re: #343 Anymouse 🌹

The real problem isn’t chaos, it’s massive corruption that is often pre-planned and effective. Chaos helps mask it though. Now I’ll watch pundits fight the chaos strawman instead of analyzing the corruption.

Having your son-in-law and adviser lose his security clearance is a sign of corruption, chaos and ineptitude.

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lawhawk  Mar 6, 2018 • 7:26:53am

re: #348 MsJ

His criminal actions aren’t perjury, but obstruction of justice by openly flouting the rules of the court, failing to follow the court’s rulings, contempt, etc.

It wouldn’t surprise me if he also committed perjury too.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 6, 2018 • 7:27:14am
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Belafon  Mar 6, 2018 • 7:28:45am

re: #343 Anymouse 🌹

Corruption is a problem, but it doesn’t exclude the problems caused by chaos and ineptitude. What’s happening in Puerto Rico is as much about the latter as the former.

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MsJ  Mar 6, 2018 • 7:29:30am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 6, 2018 • 7:30:00am

re: #359 Belafon

Corruption is a problem, but it doesn’t exclude the problems caused by chaos and ineptitude. What’s happening in Puerto Rico is as much about the latter as the former.

a lot of corruption arises as an attempt to cover the extent of chaos and ineptitude

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dangerman  Mar 6, 2018 • 7:31:19am

re: #356 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Having your son-in-law and adviser lose his not be able to pass a security clearance is a sign of corruption, chaos and ineptitude.

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JordanRules  Mar 6, 2018 • 7:32:07am

Someone inconsequential was probably going to resign today or tomorrow and cause of the dumb guys tweet John Kelly probably is begging them to just wait until next week.

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dangerman  Mar 6, 2018 • 7:32:08am

re: #359 Belafon

Corruption is a problem, but it doesn’t exclude the problems caused by chaos and ineptitude. What’s happening in Puerto Rico is as much about the latter as the former.

plus a healthy does of willing disregard

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jeffreyw  Mar 6, 2018 • 7:32:55am

re: #276 ObserverArt

Are you running a “special” at Jeffrey’s Fly-In Diner today? Place is packed.

Today the blue plate includes a side of sunflower seeds.

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dangerman  Mar 6, 2018 • 7:34:22am

we’re a horse town
lots of riders use our road almost daily

three cops on horseback just walked past - just patrolling
that doesnt happen very often

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MsJ  Mar 6, 2018 • 7:34:36am

Excuse me whilst I vomit.

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dangerman  Mar 6, 2018 • 7:37:22am

re: #367 MsJ

Excuse me whilst I vomit.

Utah lawmakers may name National Parks Highway after Trump

here’s yer sign:

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JordanRules  Mar 6, 2018 • 7:37:45am
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JordanRules  Mar 6, 2018 • 7:39:13am
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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 6, 2018 • 7:39:35am

re: #354 MsJ

Daily reminder that there is no sane GOPer. They hide it in various ways but they are all extremists who are intent on the destruction of America.

FullFuckingStop.

I would change that from GOP to conservative. While the GOP hasn’t always been this way (thanks, Goldwater), conservatism has always been anti-democracy in our country.

Fighting for the Crown in the Revolution, the Whiskey Rebellion, Manifest Destiny, Trail of Tears, Civil War, Business Plot, Jim Crow, Watergate, Iran-Contra, &c.

There is no generation in the USA where conservatives have not tried to overthrow the will of the people as expressed through the vote or Congress.

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Belafon  Mar 6, 2018 • 7:42:39am

re: #370 JordanRules

Here’s where my jaw actually drops.

Sorry, I was thinking someone else.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 6, 2018 • 7:46:38am

re: #367 MsJ

Excuse me whilst I vomit.

There is a reason you don’t name things after living persons … as in if the living person then screws up, you’re left regretting the decision.

As I recall, there was a town which renamed itself “Nixonville” during President Nixon’s tenure.

Of course, if Utah would like to name a prison after Donald Trump… .

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 6, 2018 • 7:47:00am

still a moron

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MsJ  Mar 6, 2018 • 7:47:45am

As a follow up to re: #367 MsJ

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 6, 2018 • 7:49:50am

re: #375 MsJ

As a follow up to

BWAHAHAHA! At least Ms. Daniels was honest about her job (and I’ll bet she paid her taxes too).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 6, 2018 • 7:49:53am
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JordanRules  Mar 6, 2018 • 7:49:55am
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JordanRules  Mar 6, 2018 • 7:50:35am

re: #375 MsJ

Best follow up ever!!!!

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MsJ  Mar 6, 2018 • 7:51:34am

re: #377 Backwoods_Sleuth

I literally had Pepsi dribble out of my mouth when I read that response. Thank god I had swallowed most of it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 6, 2018 • 7:52:04am

re: #370 JordanRules

California Gov. Jerry Brown took office in 2011 with a $27 billion deficit. He won voter support for huge tax hikes on the rich in 2012, and voters reauthorized them in 2016. Brown leaves office w/a $6.1 billion surplus.
Take a note: Taxing the rich works.

I remember back under Clinton when he had a budget surplus and Rush Limbaugh came on to tell us that it is immoral for the government to take more money from us in taxes than it needs to operate and therefore surpluses are bad.

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ObserverArt  Mar 6, 2018 • 7:52:29am

re: #367 MsJ

Excuse me whilst I vomit.

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Eeek. Trump looks even worse in that image than usual. I’m wondering if he is up for a heart attack. He’s puffing up like he is building up fluids.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 6, 2018 • 7:52:29am

No narcissist, you’re the narcissist.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Mar 6, 2018 • 7:52:38am

re: #339 MsJ

I am more than willing to have all my taxes go to housing these pricks for life. More than willing!

LOL. I was going to suggest that you wouldn’t have any problem with that. I don’t, either. Lock them all up and throw away the key. I’ll pay for that.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 6, 2018 • 7:55:11am

re: #371 Anymouse 🌹

I would change that from GOP to conservative. While the GOP hasn’t always been this way (thanks, Goldwater), conservatism has always been anti-democracy in our country.

Fighting for the Crown in the Revolution, the Whiskey Rebellion, Manifest Destiny, Trail of Tears, Civil War, Business Plot, Jim Crow, Watergate, Iran-Contra, &c.

There is no generation in the USA where conservatives have not tried to overthrow the will of the people as expressed through the vote or Congress.

There is “opposed to change” conservatism and there is the sort of conservatism that stresses the importance of individual initiative and personal freedoms.
And then there are Religious Fundamentalists, who come out in favor of “family values” but have a rather narrow view of what those values are.
And there is the conservatism of the 1% who own 90% of everything and see no reason for that trend to change…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 6, 2018 • 7:55:31am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 6, 2018 • 7:56:18am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 6, 2018 • 7:57:58am

I saw this and my jaw dropped. In my business, if you see an R² like that, you’re confident of the correlation

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 6, 2018 • 7:58:16am

re: #385 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There is “opposed to change” conservatism and there is the sort of conservatism that stresses the importance of individual initiative and personal freedoms.
And then there are Religious Fundamentalists, who come out in favor of “family values” but have a rather narrow view of what those values are.
And there is the conservatism of the 1% who own 90% of everything and see no reason for that trend to change…

Those are pretty much all the same thing. The fundamentalists in the GOP are a new kink introduced by Paul Weyrich, and Goldwater was complaining of it on the Senate floor back in 1981.

But “individual initiative and personal freedom” was a strong characteristic of conservatism as pushed during Manifest Destiny (genocide) and the Gilded Age (a few people owned most everything).

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 6, 2018 • 7:58:36am

Reload #388

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Decatur Deb  Mar 6, 2018 • 7:59:43am

re: #387 Backwoods_Sleuth

Because I think he’s acting.

Redd Foxx got a lot of laughs out of that kind of heart attack.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 6, 2018 • 8:01:13am

re: #391 Decatur Deb

Redd Foxx got a lot of laughs out of that kind of heart attack.

Indeed.

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JordanRules  Mar 6, 2018 • 8:02:22am
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Sir John Barron  Mar 6, 2018 • 8:03:38am

re: #393 JordanRules

I sense another wacko Dana video coming…

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 6, 2018 • 8:04:17am

re: #393 JordanRules

We had a combined church service on Sunday at the local high school. It was encouraging to see signs made by the students advertising a walkout next week. Good to know that even in our isolated little bubble, the message is starting to get through.

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electrotek  Mar 6, 2018 • 8:04:55am

Has anyone seen the controversy with Amber Heard involving her tweets recently? What’s everyone’s take on that?

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dangerman  Mar 6, 2018 • 8:05:29am

re: #376 Anymouse 🌹

BWAHAHAHA! At least Ms. Daniels was honest about her job (and I’ll bet she paid her taxes too).

im waiting for proof of this

i want to know how the 130k got into the llc, how it was recorded, what its tax returns say
i want to know if it issued her a 1099 or a k-1, or something else (or nothing else)

and because i assume she had a lawyer of her own, i want to know how the money was treated on her own tax return regardless of what the llc did or didnt do or should have done

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MsJ  Mar 6, 2018 • 8:06:43am

To build on what Lawhawk said re: #341 here, this is a good explanation of what’s going on.

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MsJ  Mar 6, 2018 • 8:07:04am

re: #396 electrotek

Has anyone seen the controversy with Amber Heard involving her tweets recently? What’s everyone’s take on that?

No idea what this is about.

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dangerman  Mar 6, 2018 • 8:07:12am

re: #377 Backwoods_Sleuth

1/ While the US media’s exploitation of Sam Nunberg’s mental state is exceedingly distasteful, it is balanced by the strong public interest in understanding Mueller’s probe, PROVIDED THAT the media was not acting as a proxy for the DoJ/FBI.

yeah, “the media” got together and made him call all those different outlets and forced him to sit for those interviews in person and by phone

asshat

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 6, 2018 • 8:07:40am

re: #397 dangerman

im waiting for proof of this

i want to know how the 130k got into the llc, how it was recorded, what its tax returns say
i want to know if it issued her a 1099 or a k-1, or something else (or nothing else)

and because i assume she had a lawyer of her own, i want to know how the money was treated on her own tax return regardless of what the llc did or didnt do or should have done

I wasn’t referring to that $130,000 payment (which went public because she said she wasn’t paid all of it). I was referring to her previous artistic endeavours.

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electrotek  Mar 6, 2018 • 8:08:48am

re: #399 MsJ

No idea what this is about.

Sorry, not Amber Heard. Amber Tamblyn, my apologies

She’s under fire for her attacks on the Hasidic community

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electrotek  Mar 6, 2018 • 8:09:56am
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JordanRules  Mar 6, 2018 • 8:11:04am
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dangerman  Mar 6, 2018 • 8:13:31am

re: #378 JordanRules

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our cat, squeak, is gozer:


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dangerman  Mar 6, 2018 • 8:15:06am

re: #381 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I remember back under Clinton when he had a budget surplus and Rush Limbaugh came on to tell us that it is immoral for the government to take more money from us in taxes than it needs to operate and therefore surpluses are bad.

never plan for the future or the unanticipated

bridges don’t fall, hurricanes hardly ever happen

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 6, 2018 • 8:15:15am
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dangerman  Mar 6, 2018 • 8:15:44am

re: #383 Anymouse 🌹

No narcissist, you’re the narcissist.

Lowest rated Oscars in HISTORY. Problem is, we don’t have Stars anymore - except your President (just kidding, of course)!

its pure envy

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 6, 2018 • 8:15:53am

re: #407 Anymouse 🌹

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That conveys nothing to a pleb like me.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 6, 2018 • 8:18:31am

re: #409 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

That conveys nothing to a pleb like me.

Preps, Yuppies, and an Unsavory Past at Dorrian’s Red Hand

James “Red Dog” Dorrian, a native of Ulster, Ireland, opened this restaurant in 1960, when he was in his ’20s. The area was mainly German back then, and Dorrian’s Red Hand was one of a wave of “new old-fashioned” bars that opened in the area, taverns intended to look like older New York saloons. Thus, the wooden floors, tin ceilings, red-and-white checkered tablecloths. Nostalgia is nothing new in New York; it just used to mimic different eras.

At some point, the Dorrian clan bought the building the eatery occupies, thus ensuring its survival. Had they not, who knows if the business would have withstood the events and aftermath of Aug. 26, 1986. That was the night when Dorrian’s teenage “regular” Robert Chambers, aka “The Preppy Killer,” left the bar with another teenager, Jennifer Levin. Chambers was later arrested when Levin turned murdered in Central Park, and subsequently convicted of manslaughter. The “red hand” of the name—which refers to a particularly gruesome myth attached to the late kings of Ulster—proved an unfortunate moniker at that moment. It was subsequently played down.

History weirdly repeated itself in 2009, when student Imette St. Guillen disappeared from The Falls, a SoHo bar that was owned by Michael Dorrian and managed by Daniel Dorrian, sons of Dorrian’s current owner, Jack. St. Guillen wound up dead. The more you dig into Dorrian history, the more confused you get. Family members seem to be everywhere, and own restaurants and bars all over New York. One married Giuliani’s former chief of staff. An ancestor was reportedly a Prohibition bootlegger. One day, they’ll provide fodder for a good book.

more at the link

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MsJ  Mar 6, 2018 • 8:21:17am

re: #407 Anymouse 🌹

From the comments:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 6, 2018 • 8:21:26am
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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 6, 2018 • 8:22:40am

re: #409 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

That conveys nothing to a pleb like me.

Mr. Wilson is referring to this article in The Atlantic.

theatlantic.com

If the article is true, it sure makes Nunberg’s display on the media yesterday look like an act.

The lede:

“By the way, you know I’m the number one trending person on Twitter?”

It was just after 8:00 p.m. on Monday night, and the suddenly-famous Sam Nunberg had phoned me from Dorrian’s Red Hand Restaurant, a yuppie hangout on Manhattan’s Upper East Side, where he was reveling in his triumph.

After announcing earlier that day his intention to defy a grand-jury subpoena he says he received in the Russia investigation (“Arrest me,” he’d dared prosecutors), the former Trump aide had spent the day conducting a manic media blitz—popping up on multiple cable-news programs, granting interviews to dozens of journalists, and hijacking the news cycle with a car-crash procession of blustery soundbites. Legal experts were warning that his failure to cooperate with Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation could put him in serious legal jeopardy—but at this moment, it seemed, Nunberg was in a celebratory mood.

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MsJ  Mar 6, 2018 • 8:23:37am

Uhm…

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darthstar  Mar 6, 2018 • 8:23:38am

Click it for the replies.

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dangerman  Mar 6, 2018 • 8:25:01am

re: #401 Anymouse 🌹

I wasn’t referring to that $130,000 payment (which went public because she said she wasn’t paid all of it). I was referring to her previous artistic endeavours.

(oops) ;-)

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dangerman  Mar 6, 2018 • 8:28:28am

re: #403 electrotek

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i noticed how it went from “tried to hit” in the first tweet to “hit my daughter’s stroller” in the last

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 6, 2018 • 8:29:11am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 6, 2018 • 8:30:23am
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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 6, 2018 • 8:31:13am

‘There’s no stopping it,’ warns Ron Paul: A ‘calamity’ could cut this market in half (Marketwatch)

The calamity is already in office, Mr. Paul. That’s why the markets are dropping.

They drop on instability, and they drop on long-term conservatism. We have both.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 6, 2018 • 8:31:39am

re: #419 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Durbin is correct.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 6, 2018 • 8:32:08am

re: #420 Anymouse 🌹

‘There’s no stopping it,’ warns Ron Paul: A ‘calamity’ could cut this market in half (Marketwatch)

The calamity is already in office, Mr. Paul. That’s why the markets are dropping.

They drop on instability, and they drop on long-term conservatism. We have both.

Ron Paul is a kook.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 6, 2018 • 8:32:32am

re: #417 dangerman

i noticed how it went from “tried to hit” in the first tweet to “hit my daughter’s stroller” in the last

She mentions it in the first tweet:

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dangerman  Mar 6, 2018 • 8:34:18am

re: #419 Backwoods_Sleuth

Total inaction on DACA by Dems. Where are you? A deal can be made!

you are in total control

reverse
your
decision

done.

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JordanRules  Mar 6, 2018 • 8:34:59am
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KGxvi  Mar 6, 2018 • 8:35:18am

re: #422 HappyWarrior

Ron Paul is a kook.

I thought at first it said Rand Paul (not that the nut falls far from the tree). But it’s just more railing against the federal reserve, as far as I can tell. Granted, a trade war will probably have a very large negative impact on the economy (and by extension/inclusion, the stock market - Ford and GM are saying the steel/aluminum tariffs could cost them a billion each), but I’m sure that’s not what Paul is talking about.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Mar 6, 2018 • 8:38:19am

re: #415 darthstar

Click it for the replies.

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Tom Cruise is 55 years old, Hal Jordan isn’t.

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dangerman  Mar 6, 2018 • 8:38:55am

re: #423 Anymouse 🌹

She mentions it in the first tweet:

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the first: “try to hit” and “touching”
the second: “hit my daughter’s stroller in a crosswalk with a car” without any context

stories and recollections morph when it helps

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HappyWarrior  Mar 6, 2018 • 8:39:01am

re: #426 KGxvi

I thought at first it said Rand Paul (not that the nut falls far from the tree). But it’s just more railing against the federal reserve, as far as I can tell. Granted, a trade war will probably have a very large negative impact on the economy (and by extension/inclusion, the stock market - Ford and GM are saying the steel/aluminum tariffs could cost them a billion each), but I’m sure that’s not what Paul is talking about.

Right. If Sanders can’t gova sentence without talking about banks, Ron Paul can’t without the Fed.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 6, 2018 • 8:39:33am

re: #426 KGxvi

I thought at first it said Rand Paul (not that the nut falls far from the tree). But it’s just more railing against the federal reserve, as far as I can tell. Granted, a trade war will probably have a very large negative impact on the economy (and by extension/inclusion, the stock market - Ford and GM are saying the steel/aluminum tariffs could cost them a billion each), but I’m sure that’s not what Paul is talking about.

My wife is a Libertarian and she thinks he’s a kook, if that means anything.

Mr. Paul’s answer to everything seems to be:

a) Abolish the Fed
b) Return to the gold standard.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 6, 2018 • 8:42:18am
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ObserverArt  Mar 6, 2018 • 8:42:45am

re: #428 dangerman

the first: “try to hit” and “touching”
the second: “hit my daughter’s stroller in a crosswalk with a car” without any context

stories and recollections morph when it helps

Also went from van to car from one tweet to the other. Sounds like she is, uh, storytelling. I get the impression from comments she has done this before.

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KGxvi  Mar 6, 2018 • 8:42:54am

re: #430 Anymouse 🌹

My wife is a Libertarian and she thinks he’s a kook, if that means anything.

Mr. Paul’s answer to everything seems to be:

a) Abolish the Fed
b) Return to the gold standard.

I’ve still got a pretty strong libertarian streak, though I never joined the party, and other than a protest primary vote in 2008, I never once thought of supporting Paul. Tying our currency to a commodity would be an absolute disaster - you think Russian interference is bad now, just wait until they decide to flood the market with gold.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 6, 2018 • 8:43:34am

re: #428 dangerman

the first: “try to hit” and “touching”
the second: “hit my daughter’s stroller in a crosswalk with a car” without any context

stories and recollections morph when it helps

I haven’t pushed a baby stroller in a long time, but if someone drove a car into it and “bumped” it, I would use the verb “hit.”

In a crosswalk, in a city where pedestrians have the right-of-way in crosswalks, there is no excuse for a car to do anything to a pedestrian.

Hassidic Jews dress in a particular manner. It would be entirely logical to describe him that way (I doubt someone dressed that way would be described as a Mennonite, and I would be no more bigoted to describe a person as a Mennonite if that person was dressed like one).

That said, if the fellow did in fact bump her baby stroller and she was not in the wrong, she should be filling in a police report. (I don’t know how difficult that is to do in New York though.)

It’s not like Twitter has ever been used to call someone out before.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 6, 2018 • 8:44:03am

re: #432 ObserverArt

Also went from van to car from one tweet to the other. Sounds like she is, uh, storytelling. I get the impression from comments she has done this before.

Could also be. I’ll have to go through the list of tweets.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 6, 2018 • 8:45:38am

re: #431 Backwoods_Sleuth

That’s good to see. Hopefully, they can work things out - a tall order, to put it mildly, but better to have them talking then fighting.

So…..who’s Trump gonna pick on next? Where’s he gonna try to gin up a war?

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Belafon  Mar 6, 2018 • 8:46:07am

re: #432 ObserverArt

Also went from van to car from one tweet to the other. Sounds like she is, uh, storytelling. I get the impression from comments she has done this before.

She might be lying, but vans and pickup trucks turn into cars in a lot of conversations, the term car being the more general term.

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electrotek  Mar 6, 2018 • 8:46:40am

Horrific racist attack in Spain over the weekend:

The kicker? The attacker was a woman that was from El Salvador, not Spain.

“I’m white. I can kill you and nothing will happen”

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JordanRules  Mar 6, 2018 • 8:48:35am

I mean really. His answer on this is problematic on sooo many levels. A real wtf.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 6, 2018 • 8:49:15am

re: #432 ObserverArt

Also went from van to car from one tweet to the other. Sounds like she is, uh, storytelling. I get the impression from comments she has done this before.

I’ve described pretty much any vehicle which isn’t a semi or a motor home as a car, depending on context. (I am not familiar with “New York idiom” on this topic however.

I even owned a van once and called it a car (an E-250)

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JordanRules  Mar 6, 2018 • 8:49:38am

re: #437 Belafon

That was my thought as well.

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KGxvi  Mar 6, 2018 • 8:49:42am

re: #436 Dr Lizardo

That’s good to see. Hopefully, they can work things out - a tall order, to put it mildly, but better to have them talking then fighting.

So…..who’s Trump gonna pick on next? Where’s he gonna try to gin up a war?

The Koreas are going to end up negotiating without us if Trump insists on denuclearization as a pre-condition for talks. Given the Trump Administration’s inability to do anything right, that might be for the best. But between the peninsula, the TPP, NAFTA, the threat of worldwide tariffs, and threatening to abandon the Iran deal… it may be a long time before we are trusted in a world leadership role.

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dangerman  Mar 6, 2018 • 8:49:55am

re: #436 Dr Lizardo

That’s good to see. Hopefully, they can work things out - a tall order, to put it mildly, but better to have them talking then fighting.

So…..who’s Trump gonna pick on next? Where’s he gonna try to gin up a war?

wait till he finishes taking credit for this one

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Decatur Deb  Mar 6, 2018 • 8:50:17am

re: #440 Anymouse 🌹

I’ve described pretty much any vehicle which isn’t a semi or a motor home as a car, depending on context. (I am not familiar with “New York idiom” on this topic however.

I even owned a van once and called it a car (an E-250)

The baby probably gave him the finger. There’s your New York idiom.

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darthstar  Mar 6, 2018 • 8:50:20am
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dangerman  Mar 6, 2018 • 8:52:18am

re: #439 JordanRules

I mean really. His answer on this is problematic on sooo many levels. A real wtf.

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the real story here is that he doesnt merit a clearance

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HappyWarrior  Mar 6, 2018 • 8:52:32am

re: #445 darthstar

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Stripper registry? Wut.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 6, 2018 • 8:52:51am

re: #438 electrotek

Horrific racist attack in Spain over the weekend:

The kicker? The attacker was a woman that was from El Salvador, not Spain.

“I’m white. I can kill you and nothing will happen”

I’m guessing she might be surprised about that “nothing will happen to her” in Spain unless it changed a whole lot since I lived there.

If that was Dixie though, she’d probably be right.

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KGxvi  Mar 6, 2018 • 8:52:58am

re: #439 JordanRules

Isn’t the obvious implication of this quote that for the last 13 months he was a threat to national security?

Well, considering there are reports that multiple countries - including several allies - saw Jared as a) a moron, b) a mark, and c) compromised because his family’s business(es) is/are highly leveraged… yeah, it’s pretty fucking obvious the guy is a threat to our national security. But so is his boss/father-in-law, so…

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ObserverArt  Mar 6, 2018 • 8:53:39am

re: #440 Anymouse 🌹

I’ve described pretty much any vehicle which isn’t a semi or a motor home as a car, depending on context. (I am not familiar with “New York idiom” on this topic however.

I even owned a van once and called it a car (an E-250)

I’ve got no dog in this hunt. I was just pointing out that she used the word car in the second tweet and van in the original.

It just seemed odd usage of the words. If you describe any vehicle as a “car” then don’t you do that consistently?

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KGxvi  Mar 6, 2018 • 8:53:50am

re: #447 HappyWarrior

Stripper registry? Wut.

I’m sure there’s already one of those on the internet, you probably just need to know where to look

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Belafon  Mar 6, 2018 • 8:54:33am

re: #450 ObserverArt

I’ve got no dog in this hunt. I was just pointing out that she used the word car in the second tweet and van in the original.

It just seemed odd usage of the words. If you describe any vehicle as a “car” then don’t you do that consistently?

Nope. You’ll start by saying van, and then it will be car, and then you might use van again.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 6, 2018 • 8:54:37am

re: #451 KGxvi

I’m sure there’s already one of those on the internet, you probably just need to know where to look

Will it be available under FOIA? Asking for a friend.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 6, 2018 • 8:55:00am

re: #451 KGxvi

I’m sure there’s already one of those on the internet, you probably just need to know where to look

Yeah true.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 6, 2018 • 8:55:22am

re: #453 Decatur Deb

Will it be available under FOIA? Asking for a friend.

Planning a bachelor party are we?

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Mar 6, 2018 • 8:55:37am

re: #450 ObserverArt

I’ve got no dog in this hunt. I was just pointing out that she used the word car in the second tweet and van in the original.

It just seemed odd usage of the words. If you describe any vehicle as a “car” then don’t you do that consistently?

I had a van. I sometimes called it a van, sometimes a car, sometimes a vehicle. I got chastised for calling my friend’s Ford F350 a “car” just last month. LOL.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 6, 2018 • 8:56:18am

re: #455 HappyWarrior

Planning a bachelor party are we?

Just want to know which windowless concrete-block roadhouses to avoid.

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MsJ  Mar 6, 2018 • 8:57:25am

re: #434 Anymouse 🌹

I have never pushed a baby carriage (but for babysitting way, way long ago) but if I had a child and some schmuck did that, it would be fisticuffs and that bastard would not know what hit him. Mothers do not take that shit. Police would have been called and a lawsuit initiated (this is America, after all).

While I am sure something happened, this reeks of BS.

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JordanRules  Mar 6, 2018 • 8:57:49am

re: #446 dangerman

That was a story the media should have been feeding on over a year ago.
Now I’d at least like our intelligence officials to be smarter and more forth coming about the national security implications here. This is a horrible answer to an important question.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 6, 2018 • 8:59:16am
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Ace-o-aces  Mar 6, 2018 • 9:00:21am

re: #414 MsJ

Uhm…

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It’s true. Around the commodities exchange in Chicago, you always see guys walking around in weird looking jackets. This isn’t even the strangest one I’ve ever seen.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Mar 6, 2018 • 9:00:54am

re: #458 MsJ

I have never pushed a baby carriage (but for babysitting way, way long ago) but if I had a child and some schmuck did that, it would be fisticuffs and that bastard would not know what hit him. Mothers do not take that shit. Police would have been called and a lawsuit initiated (this is America, after all).

While I am sure something happened, this reeks of BS.

You and I are a lot alike, and we are not the norm.

True story. My girls were small, probably 4 and 6. I was with my aunt in a parking lot walking back to her van with the folding chairs we had just purchased. A woman in a huge red truck sped by, almost striking my children. I happened to have a folding chair in my hand and as the truck when by, I whacked the shit out of the truck and put a big dent in it. The woman stopped and looked like she was going to get out. I told her to bring it, that she almost ran my children over. I must have looked crazy because she changed her mind and took off. My aunt was horrified. I simply went back to putting the chairs in the back of her car.

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KGxvi  Mar 6, 2018 • 9:02:26am

re: #457 Decatur Deb

Just want to know which windowless concrete-block roadhouses to avoid.

All of them, Katie.

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ObserverArt  Mar 6, 2018 • 9:05:05am

re: #452 Belafon

Nope. You’ll start by saying van, and then it will be car, and then you might use van again.

Not me!

But I am a car nut. I use car, sports car, SUV, Van, Truck, Semi, etc.

Consistently.

Plus, I was just riffing off of dangerman picking out differences. I didn’t mean to start a language debate or an investigation.

But I wonder if there was an actual baby in the stroller…or a doll.

Heh. Chew on that!

Apparently it is a big deal. Do a google search and see all the articles.

And the search reminded me. Amber Tamblyn is the actress that said James Wood tried to pick her up when she was 16.

I will close out my “concerns” about all of this by saying…Amber seems to like to stay in the news.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 6, 2018 • 9:07:04am
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Decatur Deb  Mar 6, 2018 • 9:07:25am

re: #463 KGxvi

All of them, Katie.

No shit. This one is on my way to Rucker. Some spurned suitor aired it out a couple years ago.

Alabama’s Strip Clubs of Death

vice.com

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dangerman  Mar 6, 2018 • 9:07:28am

re: #459 JordanRules

That was a story the media should have been feeding on over a year ago.
Now I’d at least like our intelligence officials to be smarter and more forth coming about the national security implications here. This is a horrible answer to an important question.

if i understand it, the president can “grant” clearance to anybody

he should be (or should have been way back when) the freakin brutal boss he says he is and said i want him in this position and im giving him clearance

instead they’re bumbling this 10 different ways because no one wants to just come out and say “this relation of yours cant pass a clearance”

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JordanRules  Mar 6, 2018 • 9:11:04am

Um no thanks.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 6, 2018 • 9:11:04am

re: #456 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

A friend of mine had a van (a ‘75 Chevy). All decked out in glorious, tacky extravagance.

She called it her “fuck truck”. LOL.

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Ace-o-aces  Mar 6, 2018 • 9:11:43am
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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Mar 6, 2018 • 9:11:54am

re: #469 Dr Lizardo

A friend of mine had a van (a ‘75 Chevy). All decked out in glorious, tacky extravagance.

She called it her “fuck truck”. LOL.

Love it!

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 6, 2018 • 9:12:21am

Another:

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KGxvi  Mar 6, 2018 • 9:14:54am

re: #467 dangerman

if i understand it, the president can “grant” clearance to anybody

he should be (or should have been way back when) the freakin brutal boss he says he is and said i want him in this position and im giving him clearance

instead they’re bumbling this 10 different ways because no one wants to just come out and say “this relation of yours cant pass a clearance”

If I recall correctly, Ben Rhodes was one of Obama’s top advisors and during his entire tenure was on a presidential waiver. I can only find wingnut blogs about the issue, so it’s not entirely clear why he couldn’t pass the background check (wingnuts would rather bitch about Rhodes’ role in the Iran deal). But yes, ultimately clearances in the White House are a matter of presidential discretion - which is fine when to generally trust the president’s discretion (even if you don’t agree with him politically); it’s more troubling when it’s, well, Trump.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 6, 2018 • 9:15:54am

re: #472 Anymouse 🌹

Uh oh……looks like Smeagol’s sister is in trouble.

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JordanRules  Mar 6, 2018 • 9:17:57am

This starts tonight. Shoot your shot lizards!

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KGxvi  Mar 6, 2018 • 9:18:35am

re: #468 JordanRules

As a general rule, if a sitting president faces a primary challenge in his re-election campaign, he’s going to lose the general election. LBJ withdrew in ‘68, Ford lost in ‘76, Carter lost in ‘80, Bush lost in ‘92. So Trump getting any kind of establishment style challenger is probably good for us in the long run.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 6, 2018 • 9:18:45am

re: #472 Anymouse 🌹

Another:

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The article says that the OSC referred the charges to Trump’s office for appropriate disciplinary action. Um? That doesn’t seem like it would work very well.

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dangerman  Mar 6, 2018 • 9:19:16am

re: #465 Backwoods_Sleuth

Someone lost their goats, who are now playing in the street in front of my house. They are having a blast so no one seems to mind.
cc:

neighbors goats, my house

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 6, 2018 • 9:20:20am

re: #474 Dr Lizardo

Uh oh……looks like Smeagol’s sister is in trouble.

She’s not. Its up to Trump to discipline her, and he won’t, unless Kelly wants to.

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retired cynic  Mar 6, 2018 • 9:21:09am

Terry Gross is having Jane Mayer from The New Yorker on Fresh Air today, talking about the Steele Dossier. Should be a good hour!

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JordanRules  Mar 6, 2018 • 9:21:35am

re: #476 KGxvi

Good point!
I was reflexively thinking as an Arizonian who doesn’t want him leading anything else.

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dangerman  Mar 6, 2018 • 9:22:09am

re: #468 JordanRules

Um no thanks.

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flake isnt running for reelection because he doesnt think he can win a statewide race

do i have to explain the rest?

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gwangung  Mar 6, 2018 • 9:23:22am

re: #434 Anymouse 🌹

I haven’t pushed a baby stroller in a long time, but if someone drove a car into it and “bumped” it, I would use the verb “hit.”

In a crosswalk, in a city where pedestrians have the right-of-way in crosswalks, there is no excuse for a car to do anything to a pedestrian.

Hassidic Jews dress in a particular manner. It would be entirely logical to describe him that way (I doubt someone dressed that way would be described as a Mennonite, and I would be no more bigoted to describe a person as a Mennonite if that person was dressed like one).

That said, if the fellow did in fact bump her baby stroller and she was not in the wrong, she should be filling in a police report. (I don’t know how difficult that is to do in New York though.)

It’s not like Twitter has ever been used to call someone out before.

Ugh. Not up for this right now.

Some asshole ran down an acquaintance and her friend, killing their children and severely injuring them. Asshole had previously been cited for driving through redlights and speeding through school zones.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 6, 2018 • 9:23:39am

re: #478 dangerman

neighbors goats, my house

Map: Literally Every Goat in America

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dangerman  Mar 6, 2018 • 9:25:07am

re: #472 Anymouse 🌹

Another:

#BREAKING: Special Counsel finds Kellyanne Conway violated federal law against using office for partisan politics

referring its findings to President Trump “for appropriate disciplinary action.

so consequences?
anything?

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ObserverArt  Mar 6, 2018 • 9:26:12am

re: #468 JordanRules

Um no thanks.

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Jeff Flake has zero self-awareness.

He already torpedoed any further political career. I don’t think he has told himself yet.

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dangerman  Mar 6, 2018 • 9:27:36am

re: #473 KGxvi

If I recall correctly, Ben Rhodes was one of Obama’s top advisors and during his entire tenure was on a presidential waiver. I can only find wingnut blogs about the issue, so it’s not entirely clear why he couldn’t pass the background check (wingnuts would rather bitch about Rhodes’ role in the Iran deal). But yes, ultimately clearances in the White House are a matter of presidential discretion - which is fine when to generally trust the president’s discretion (even if you don’t agree with him politically); it’s more troubling when it’s, well, Trump.

in a perverse way i’d be happier if hed just be the goddamn president and say “im doing this”

instead they are all, including him, passive aggressively passing the hot potato(e) round and round

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CongoJack  Mar 6, 2018 • 9:27:51am

re: #485 dangerman

so consequences?
anything?

Take away her meth and the supply of children she sucks the souls out of to survive comes to mind.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 6, 2018 • 9:29:29am

1. What’s the deal with all the text being underlined?

2. Lost In Space

Lost in Space | Official Trailer [HD] | Netflix

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JordanRules  Mar 6, 2018 • 9:30:16am

re: #482 dangerman

Critics invariably point out that Flake was facing abysmal approval ratings when he decided not to run for re-election, and that polling showed him losing to far-right candidate Kelli Ward. If he can’t hold onto his seat in his home state of Arizona, the thinking goes, what makes him think that he could be elected president?

This misses the point: Flake would be running to make a statement, not because he necessarily thought he could win.

One endorsement that he’s already received is that of Mesa mayor John Giles, who in November was caught on a hot mic telling Flake to run for president.

“And I am not throwing smoke at you, but you are the guy,” Giles said. “Just for fun, think about how much fun it would be, just to be the foil, you know, and point out what an idiot this guy [Trump] is.”

The New Times does really good local reporting.

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dangerman  Mar 6, 2018 • 9:30:57am

re: #484 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Map: Literally Every Goat in America

that is grand
there is so much wonderfully, quirky, and useful stuff out there

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ObserverArt  Mar 6, 2018 • 9:31:26am

re: #476 KGxvi

As a general rule, if a sitting president faces a primary challenge in his re-election campaign, he’s going to lose the general election. LBJ withdrew in ‘68, Ford lost in ‘76, Carter lost in ‘80, Bush lost in ‘92. So Trump getting any kind of establishment style challenger is probably good for us in the long run.

Don’t forget Ohio Johnny Kasich.

I’m pretty confident he is going to run. There will be others too, not just Jeff “Flake” Flake.

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KGxvi  Mar 6, 2018 • 9:32:50am

re: #482 dangerman

flake isnt running for reelection because he doesnt think he can win a statewide race

do i have to explain the rest?

He retires from the Senate, spends some time in the political wilderness, allows Trump to become more unstable, and then runs as the No True Scotsman conservative that Never Trumpers (and what I assume will be a thing by 2020 in the GOP: No More Trumpers) can rally around. It’s 8 months of “Republicans in Disarray” stories and even though Flake has no chance, because like Ryan he doesn’t realize that his constituency doesn’t really exist anymore (at least not inside the GOP), it weakens Trump who can’t just spend 2020 being president (which is the true incumbent’s advantage). Ultimately, this leads to Trump being soundly defeated, hopefully by someone like Kamala Harris so that he’ll have the indignity (in whatever is left of his addled mind) of being beaten by a woman and a minority at the same time.

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dangerman  Mar 6, 2018 • 9:33:28am

back later

off to get the parts for tonight’s dinner: baked cavatelli

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JordanRules  Mar 6, 2018 • 9:34:34am

re: #494 dangerman

Thought it might be curry goat.

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KGxvi  Mar 6, 2018 • 9:35:56am

re: #492 ObserverArt

Don’t forget Ohio Johnny Kasich.

I’m pretty confident he is going to run. There will be others too, not just Jeff “Flake” Flake.

Multiple challengers would make it much more like the Democratic primary in 1968. All the other examples there was one legitimate challenger (Reagan in ‘76, Kennedy in ‘80, Buchanan in ‘92). But I doubt Trump would have the grace to step aside.*

*This all assumes he isn’t removed from office via impeachment when Senator Mitt Romney casts the 67th vote to convict next year.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 6, 2018 • 9:36:33am

re: #493 KGxvi

Ultimately, this leads to Trump being soundly defeated, hopefully by someone like Kamala Harris so that he’ll have the indignity (in whatever is left of his addled mind) of being beaten by a woman and a minority at the same time.

Not only would Trump lose what precious little is left of his sanity, his deranged supporters would be left in a fit of shrieking apoplexy.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 6, 2018 • 9:37:08am

re: #484 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Map: Literally Every Goat in America

This is why lizards are awesome.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 6, 2018 • 9:38:29am

re: #486 ObserverArt

Jeff Flake has zero self-awareness.

He already torpedoed any further political career. I don’t think he has told himself yet.

Although I agree with you—
After losing the gubernatorial race in 1962, Nixon claimed that the press won’t have him to kick around any longer. So we can’t assume anything about Flake’s future political career.

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KGxvi  Mar 6, 2018 • 9:38:57am

re: #487 dangerman

in a perverse way i’d be happier if hed just be the goddamn president and say “im doing this”

instead they are all, including him, passive aggressively passing the hot potato(e) round and round

It really is amazing. The reason it wasn’t a story with Obama and Rhodes was because Obama just issued the waiver and everyone went on with life.

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lawhawk  Mar 6, 2018 • 9:39:11am

It certainly seems like everyone in Trumpworld has issues with the Hatch Act.

Perry did it.

Kellyanne Conway does it.

It is a huge blind spot.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 6, 2018 • 9:40:43am

re: #489 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

1. What’s the deal with all the text being underlined?

2. Lost In Space

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Video

I likee!

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KGxvi  Mar 6, 2018 • 9:41:08am

re: #497 Dr Lizardo

Not only would Trump lose what precious little is left of his sanity, his deranged supporters would be left in a fit of shrieking apoplexy.

I know, it’s second best case scenario. Best case of course is impeachment and removal.

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JordanRules  Mar 6, 2018 • 9:42:00am

She got to meet her!

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 6, 2018 • 9:42:44am

re: #493 KGxvi

He retires from the Senate, spends some time in the political wilderness, allows Trump to become more unstable, and then runs as the No True Scotsman conservative that Never Trumpers (and what I assume will be a thing by 2020 in the GOP: No More Trumpers) can rally around. It’s 8 months of “Republicans in Disarray” stories and even though Flake has no chance, because like Ryan he doesn’t realize that his constituency doesn’t really exist anymore (at least not inside the GOP), it weakens Trump who can’t just spend 2020 being president (which is the true incumbent’s advantage). Ultimately, this leads to Trump being soundly defeated, hopefully by someone like Kamala Harris so that he’ll have the indignity (in whatever is left of his addled mind) of being beaten by a woman and a minority at the same time.

I bet Trump refuses to attend the Inauguration of his replacement.

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KGxvi  Mar 6, 2018 • 9:43:48am

re: #505 Big Beautiful Door

I bet Trump refuses to attend the Inauguration of his replacement.

It’ll be hard to attend Pence’s inauguration while he’s in a federal holding cell.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 6, 2018 • 9:44:43am

re: #505 Big Beautiful Door

I bet Trump refuses to attend the Inauguration of his replacement.

Especially if it’s Nancy Pelosi!

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 6, 2018 • 9:44:50am

re: #504 JordanRules

She got to meet her!

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So cute!

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wrenchwench  Mar 6, 2018 • 9:45:30am

re: #504 JordanRules

She got to meet her!

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Made my day. Thank you.

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ObserverArt  Mar 6, 2018 • 9:46:03am

re: #499 Hecuba’s daughter

Although I agree with you—
After losing the gubernatorial race in 1962, Nixon claimed that the press won’t have him to kick around any longer. So we can’t assume anything about Flake’s future political career.

This is true.

But we didn’t have YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, all the political radio, three major all news all the time networks, etc.

In other words people will not be allowed to forget and Falke will not be allowed to live the past year down.

One other thing against Flake will be the fact he said bad things about the beloved Trump and Fox and right wing radio will hammer on that all day and night.

But for us political junkies, it will be something to watch.

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JordanRules  Mar 6, 2018 • 9:46:05am
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Sir John Barron  Mar 6, 2018 • 9:46:38am

OK, stepped out for lunch, anything new in the news, Kellyanne?

/

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MsJ  Mar 6, 2018 • 9:48:28am

re: #475 JordanRules

This starts tonight. Shoot your shot lizards!

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They would likely give me a category on Shakespeare and I would be dead in the water.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 6, 2018 • 9:48:36am

re: #485 dangerman

so consequences?
anything?

Consequences are for other people.

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JordanRules  Mar 6, 2018 • 9:48:48am
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HappyWarrior  Mar 6, 2018 • 9:48:58am

re: #468 JordanRules

Um no thanks.

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Coward.

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JordanRules  Mar 6, 2018 • 9:49:22am

re: #509 wrenchwench

Made mine too! :)

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Interesting Times  Mar 6, 2018 • 9:49:54am

Maybe this explains why the Parkland kids succeeded (where others failed) when it comes to kicking the NRA’s ass…

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MsJ  Mar 6, 2018 • 9:51:02am

re: #504 JordanRules

She got to meet her!

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SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!

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wrenchwench  Mar 6, 2018 • 9:52:50am

re: #513 MsJ

They would likely give me a category on Shakespeare and I would be dead in the water.

New Mexico has a town called Shakespeare. Dead. No water.

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MsJ  Mar 6, 2018 • 9:53:47am

re: #520 wrenchwench

New Mexico has a town called Shakespeare. Dead. No water.

I am now prepared for ONE question on Shakespeare. As long as it’s about NM.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 6, 2018 • 9:53:47am

re: #504 JordanRules

She got to meet her!

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It was a wonderful photo. I’m going to try to teach my niece about woman role models.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 6, 2018 • 9:55:24am

re: #518 Interesting Times

If anyone is still looking for meaningful ways to define generations, Millennials are the first to grow up when most U.S. kids didn’t have actionable levels of lead in their blood.

I grew up playing in piles of tailings from chemical plants, breathing air from steel mills and refineries and sitting two feet from a 1963 model color television.

It is a wonder that I not only survived but managed to successfully reproduce.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 6, 2018 • 9:56:25am

re: #521 MsJ

I am now prepared for ONE question on Shakespeare. As long as it’s about NM.

Shakespeare invented the “your mom” joke.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 6, 2018 • 9:56:36am

re: #511 JordanRules

Lowest rated Oscars in HISTORY. Problem is, we don’t have Stars anymore - except your President (just kidding, of course)!

— Donald J. Trump

Such presidential classy very leadership

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MsJ  Mar 6, 2018 • 9:57:29am

So we are doing low carb and hubby dislikes spaghetti squash. I find it has no flavor and picks up whatever you do with it.

I am making spaghetti sauce with Italian sausage and ground beef. Fairly spicy tomato sauce.

Do you think making pesto spaghetti squash is too much to then put the spicy tomato sauce on top? Or should I just season the squash with some butter and Italian seasonings?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 6, 2018 • 9:57:45am

re: #515 JordanRules

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Didn’t I say something last night to the effect of, “I bet he got polonium poisoning”?

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Weaselone  Mar 6, 2018 • 9:58:50am

re: #515 JordanRules

These attacks should count as state sponsorship of terrorism, particularly given they not only impact the presumably Russian citizen targets, but also first responders and others at the scene.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 6, 2018 • 9:58:56am

re: #515 JordanRules

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I saw that elsewhere - apparently, several others were sickened as well. Makes me wonder what the hell was used. Some kind of aerosol or something? That’s insanely risky…..unless the point was to send a message.

If indeed this was a hit (or attempted hit) by Russian covert operatives, there really needs to be hell to pay.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Mar 6, 2018 • 10:00:11am

re: #526 MsJ

So we are doing low carb and hubby dislikes spaghetti squash. I find it has no flavor and picks up whatever you do with it.

I am making spaghetti sauce with Italian sausage and ground beef. Fairly spicy tomato sauce.

Do you think making pesto spaghetti squash is too much to then put the spicy tomato sauce on top? Or should I just season the squash with some butter and Italian seasonings?

Better idea…get the whole wheat spaghetti. Lots of fiber, complex carb so it’s much better regarding carbs than regular spaghetti. Win-win.

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CongoJack  Mar 6, 2018 • 10:00:59am

re: #526 MsJ

I agree with your husband on the spaghetti squash - my wife tried that a couple times and it was just .. ugh… I didn’t like it no matter what was put on it. But cauliflower rice is great. And my wife once breaded chicken with cauliflower (with sriracha) and baked it. It was absolutely amazing.

But the gas was horrible. But I’d do it over again it was that good.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 6, 2018 • 10:01:23am

re: #524 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Shakespeare invented the “your mom” joke.

Fun fact, Steve Bannon produced a movie version of Titus Androncius. I remember seeing it long before I knew him or Breitbart. Very surreal. Had Anthony Hopkins tho.

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ObserverArt  Mar 6, 2018 • 10:03:17am

re: #504 JordanRules

She got to meet her!

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That is so fun and nice. And Parker is a little doll. Memories of a lifetime.

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JordanRules  Mar 6, 2018 • 10:04:11am

re: #526 MsJ

I’d go with butter and Italian seasoning because I think it’s mean to cover wonderful pesto. LOL

I’m weird about mixing certain things and usually sauce options is one of them. Except of course for when trying to choose between red and green chili sauce for your burrito. In that case, Christmas is the best answer.

I suppose pesto and red sauce could be an Italian Christmas.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 6, 2018 • 10:04:54am

FiveThirtyEight says Mississippi is a possible get for Democrats with Cochran retiring, in part because special elections are non-partisan. Why not; I never would’ve thought a Democrat could win in Alabama!

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ObserverArt  Mar 6, 2018 • 10:07:26am

re: #518 Interesting Times

Maybe this explains why the Parkland kids succeeded (where others failed) when it comes to kicking the NRA’s ass…

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Don’t let EPA Head Bozo Scott Pruitt see that report and the summation it had anything to do with the Florida students.

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MsJ  Mar 6, 2018 • 10:08:27am

re: #530 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

Better idea…get the whole wheat spaghetti. Lots of fiber, complex carb so it’s much better regarding carbs than regular spaghetti. Win-win.

Two ounces of that pasta is more carbs than allowed for our entire day. That doesn’t count the carbs in the sauce and the carbs in the squash.

That’s dead in the water.

We do have riced cauliflower all the time. I use it like rice in jambalaya, chili, etc. We love it.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 6, 2018 • 10:12:58am

re: #537 MsJ

Two ounces of that pasta is more carbs than allowed for our entire day. That doesn’t count the carbs in the sauce and the carbs in the squash.

That’s dead in the water.

We do have riced cauliflower all the time. I use it like rice in jambalaya, chili, etc. We love it.

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dangerman  Mar 6, 2018 • 10:13:48am

re: #494 dangerman

back later

off to get the parts for tonight’s dinner: baked cavatelli

horror of horrors, no cavatelli to be found
had to go with cavatappi

can you make baked cavatelli with cavatappi or does it become a whole different thing?
what a dangerous experiment

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DodgerFan1988  Mar 6, 2018 • 10:14:20am

Wayne LaPierre makes petty death threats to Mika Brzezinski because that’s what the NRA
are, a bunch of insecured thugs.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 6, 2018 • 10:15:04am

re: #539 dangerman

horror of horrors, no cavatelli to be found
had to go with cavatappi

can you make baked cavatelli with cavatappi or does it become a whole different thing?
what a dangerous experiment

and you are the perfect man to tackle the question.

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dangerman  Mar 6, 2018 • 10:17:05am

re: #505 Big Beautiful Door

I bet Trump refuses to attend the Inauguration of his replacement.

he’ll claim bone spurs or some other nonsense

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 6, 2018 • 10:19:24am

re: #540 DodgerFan1988

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Wayne LaPierre makes petty death threats to Mika Brzezinski because that’s what the NRA
are, a bunch of unsecured thugs.

The gun industry suffered tremendously when Trump was elected because the NRA could no longer goose gun sales with the scary black man in the White House. They are accordingly having to up their hysterical rhetoric to try to induce enough fear in their cultists to get them to buy even more weapons of war to add to their arsenals.

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dangerman  Mar 6, 2018 • 10:22:16am

re: #526 MsJ

So we are doing low carb and hubby dislikes spaghetti squash. I find it has no flavor and picks up whatever you do with it.

I am making spaghetti sauce with Italian sausage and ground beef. Fairly spicy tomato sauce.

Do you think making pesto spaghetti squash is too much to then put the spicy tomato sauce on top? Or should I just season the squash with some butter and Italian seasonings?

just my opinion, the tomato will drown out the pesto so either not both

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 6, 2018 • 10:23:18am

re: #447 HappyWarrior

Stripper registry? Wut.

We are registering all strippers, but not all guns. Sounds reasonable.

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Swampwitch  Mar 6, 2018 • 10:23:31am

re: #513 MsJ

About 10 years ago I did the online test and got called for a cattle call test in Chicago. Drove to Des Moines and took a Greyhound to Chicago. There were about 100 people packed into a conference room at the Intercontinental Hotel. First the moderator had each person stand and tell an interesting story about themselves. That took a couple of hours because a lot of the people there rambled on about how great they were. The best one was a 20 year old kid stood up, stated “I like pie.” and sat right back down. Then we took a 50 question test that was pre-recorded by Trebek via a big screen TV at the front of the room. There were 9 people who answered every question correctly, and six of those got to stay and everyone else was dismissed. Yep, I was one of the 6. Then for the next couple of hours we played mock games with little bicycle bells for buzzers. At the end of that 4 people got to stay behind and the other 2 were dismissed. We 4 then signed some papers that basically said if called we had to pay our own way to LA for the show and that even though we had come this far there was no guarantee we’d be called at all. As far as I know, the only one of us that actually got called to go and tape in LA was the handsome 20-something fellow whose interesting story about himself was that his mother once met the Mahatma.

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Skip Intro  Mar 6, 2018 • 10:25:43am

re: #414 MsJ

Uhm…

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Fox. Of course.

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dangerman  Mar 6, 2018 • 10:26:33am

re: #531 CongoJack

I agree with your husband on the spaghetti squash - my wife tried that a couple times and it was just .. ugh… I didn’t like it no matter what was put on it. But cauliflower rice is great. And my wife once breaded chicken with cauliflower (with sriracha) and baked it. It was absolutely amazing.

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looking for alternatives, i made cauliflower crust pizza a few times
basically cauliflower, egg, and goat cheese

it was…interesting (and kosher)

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MsJ  Mar 6, 2018 • 10:27:33am

re: #538 Big Beautiful Door

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KGxvi  Mar 6, 2018 • 10:27:41am

re: #545 Eventual Carrion

We are registering all strippers, but not all guns. Sounds reasonable.

This is not what we meant when we said “boobs not guns”

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KGxvi  Mar 6, 2018 • 10:28:33am

Is there some reason why the text is showing up underlined? Did someone miss a closed tag?

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MsJ  Mar 6, 2018 • 10:29:09am

re: #544 dangerman

just my opinion, the tomato will drown out the pesto so either not both

I prefer pesto and he prefers tomato. I think we may go a la cart on this one with the sauce optional as it were. :-D

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wrenchwench  Mar 6, 2018 • 10:30:34am

re: #546 Swampwitch

mock games with little bicycle bells for buzzers

I got this.

Or, I woulda had that.

Congrats on going where you did.

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JordanRules  Mar 6, 2018 • 10:31:03am

re: #548 dangerman

My paleo adjacent uncle did a meatza once. The “crust” was Italian sausage pressed onto the full sheet pan. Baked that off then continued like a regular pizza. He said it was good.

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dangerman  Mar 6, 2018 • 10:31:33am

re: #552 MsJ

I prefer pesto and he prefers tomato. I think we may go a la cart on this one with the sauce optional as it were. :-D

ah, detente

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JordanRules  Mar 6, 2018 • 10:33:23am
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MsJ  Mar 6, 2018 • 10:34:03am

re: #546 Swampwitch

That is freaking awesome!! I am so sorry you weren’t called back.

My brother in law did the same thing and was never called back (good looking guy, super, super smart and personality out the wazoo). He was unimpressed with the whole process.

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Swampwitch  Mar 6, 2018 • 10:34:12am

re: #553 wrenchwench

Thanks. Kind of heartbreaking and I swore I’d never do it again.

Until, of course, I went through the same thing trying out for Who Wants To Be A Millionaire. Top 3 in the auditions, never got the call.

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wrenchwench  Mar 6, 2018 • 10:35:01am

re: #551 KGxvi

Is there some reason why the text is showing up underlined? Did someone miss a closed tag?

LGF will have to close for a start-from-scratch overhaul. See you in a few weeks.

/panic sets in…

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wrenchwench  Mar 6, 2018 • 10:35:43am

re: #554 JordanRules

My paleo adjacent uncle did a meatza once. The “crust” was Italian sausage pressed onto the full sheet pan. Baked that off then continued like a regular pizza. He said it was good.

upding for paleo adjacent

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 6, 2018 • 10:36:30am

re: #549 MsJ

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Swampwitch  Mar 6, 2018 • 10:36:38am

re: #557 MsJ

I think the problem is these shows want a certain amount of smarm. You can be brilliant, but if you don’t act like you’ll scream “NO WHAMMIES” at a certain point you don’t have a chance.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Mar 6, 2018 • 10:40:36am
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bill d. (b.d.)  Mar 6, 2018 • 10:41:10am

re: #545 Eventual Carrion

We are registering all strippers, but not all guns. Sounds reasonable.

You can pry my stripper from my cold, dead hands!!

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MsJ  Mar 6, 2018 • 10:41:20am

re: #562 Swampwitch

I think the problem is these shows want a certain amount of smarm. You can be brilliant, but if you don’t act like you’ll scream “NO WHAMMIES” at a certain point you don’t have a chance.

I never would have expected to see someone like Austin on Jeopardy. He had such a Fuck This And Fuck You attitude. I know a lot of people didn’t like him, but I loved him. I remember a guy, whose name escapes me now, and he was on the spectrum, for sure. He was like a machine. I think they are trying to now show that you don’t have to be this perfect person to be smart and smart encompasses a lot of different people.

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KGxvi  Mar 6, 2018 • 10:41:47am

Nashville’s mayor had to resign after pleading guilty to felony theft, apparently she was also having an affair with her bodyguard, and that part of the investigation gave us this:

“(Probable cause exists to) show that on May 15, 2017 and on October 18, 2017, he used this phone to photograph a nude or partially nude female,” the documents say. “It will also show that Rob Forrest’s timecards report that he was working while these photographs were taken.”

The TBI “believes probable cause exists to show that Rob Forrest was indeed not working at the time (two photos) were taken but was rather participating in the affair with Megan Barry at these times,” the document adds.

TBI investigators say they looked at Forrest’s phone and his emails after Barry admitted publicly to the affair. Two of his emails each contained one photo that showed a partially nude or fully naked woman, court documents say. The documents do not say the woman is the mayor.

The photos were taken while Forrest and Mayor Megan Barry were in Washington on business trips. On January 31, Barry apologized at a news conference for having the affair with Forrest, who had resigned.

I don’t know the details of the affair, but obviously it was not smart. But what amazes me more than anything is that the guy took these pictures on a government issued phone. Why would anyone take nudes on an employer (government or not) issued phone? That’s just asking to get in trouble.

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dangerman  Mar 6, 2018 • 10:42:09am

re: #562 Swampwitch

I think the problem is these shows want a certain amount of smarm. You can be brilliant, but if you don’t act like you’ll scream “NO WHAMMIES” at a certain point you don’t have a chance.

exactly - they’re not looking for winners
they’re looking for “TeeVee”

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Mar 6, 2018 • 10:42:30am

re: #489 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

1. What’s the deal with all the text being underlined?

2. Lost In Space

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Post 438 seems to have an unclosed underline tag.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Mar 6, 2018 • 10:42:38am
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Kragar  Mar 6, 2018 • 10:42:39am
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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 6, 2018 • 10:44:21am

re: #566 KGxvi

Nashville’s mayor had to resign after pleading guilty to felony theft, apparently she was also having an affair with her bodyguard, and that part of the investigation gave us this:

I don’t know the details of the affair, but obviously it was not smart. But what amazes me more than anything is that the guy took these pictures on a government issued phone. Why would anyone take nudes on an employer (government or not) issued phone? That’s just asking to get in trouble.

Just guessing, but I’d say stupidity is the reason.

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KGxvi  Mar 6, 2018 • 10:48:33am

re: #571 Big Beautiful Door

Just guessing, but I’d say stupidity is the reason.

I was just reading up on it. Apparently they traveled a lot together on the government dime for “work” and at least nine trips were just the two of them. He plead guilty to felony theft as well, three years supervised probation and his returning $45k to the city.

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MsJ  Mar 6, 2018 • 10:55:02am

Ugh.

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JordanRules  Mar 6, 2018 • 10:56:14am
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plansbandc  Mar 6, 2018 • 10:57:33am

Underlining hell. When will it end???

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JordanRules  Mar 6, 2018 • 10:58:34am

re: #575 plansbandc

Spy mode is safe.

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Jay C  Mar 6, 2018 • 10:59:21am

re: #431 Backwoods_Sleuth

Not that I’m THAT much of a foreign-policy maven, but never-minding what Donald Trump says*, this looks like a BFD for Korean policy (short-term, anyway): and even though The Yam is taking credit for - well, something - ISTM like the two Koreas are doing shit with each other in spite of Trump’s hot-air posturing and belligerence, not because of it. Though I’m sure that that analysis is probably unlikely to get much media coverage.

*A generally wise move, if tragically unavoidable most of the time.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 6, 2018 • 11:00:03am

re: #575 plansbandc

Underlining hell. When will it end???

Somebody broke a tag.

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Jay C  Mar 6, 2018 • 11:01:40am

re: #575 plansbandc

Underlining hell. When will it end???

Not seeing it here. Charles (or somebody) must have Fixt.

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Interesting Times  Mar 6, 2018 • 11:01:57am

re: #578 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Somebody broke a tag.

What’s weird is that I’m not seeing it at all. Can’t think of what’s different, other than I haven’t refreshed the entire page since I first loaded it this morning…?

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Mar 6, 2018 • 11:02:07am

re: #575 plansbandc

Underlining hell. When will it end???

I’ve no idea what you guys are talking about. I see nothing underlined.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Mar 6, 2018 • 11:02:55am

re: #580 Interesting Times

What’s weird is that I’m not seeing it at all. Can’t think of what’s different, other than I haven’t refreshed the entire page since I first loaded it this morning…?

That’s what I’m thinking. I’m afraid to logout now. LOL.

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Belafon  Mar 6, 2018 • 11:03:08am

re: #580 Interesting Times

What’s weird is that I’m not seeing it at all. Can’t think of what’s different, other than I haven’t refreshed the entire page since I first loaded it this morning…?

If you don’t refresh, tag breaking doesn’t affect your. The new comments button doesn’t refresh the whole page.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 6, 2018 • 11:04:01am

re: #581 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

I’ve no idea what you guys are talking about. I see nothing underlined.

Same here…..I’m not seeing anything underlined.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 6, 2018 • 11:04:55am

If I load the whole page in a new tab, I see it.

Paging electrotek: Your #438 broke a tag. Cleanup on aisle four.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Mar 6, 2018 • 11:07:59am

re: #580 Interesting Times

What’s weird is that I’m not seeing it at all. Can’t think of what’s different, other than I haven’t refreshed the entire page since I first loaded it this morning…?

That’s the difference. Loading the problem comment as a new comment fixes the tag. It’s only an issue for people who refreshed since the problem comment was loaded.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 6, 2018 • 11:08:49am

re: #586 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

That’s the difference. Loading the problem comment as a new comment fixes the tag. It’s only an issue for people who refreshed since the problem comment was loaded.

And now it appears to have been fix’d. I loaded the page in a new tab (again) and there is no more underlining. For those who are seeing it, refresh, and all shall be forgotten.

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dangerman  Mar 6, 2018 • 11:08:52am

today

Paul Krugman ✔ @paulkrugman

True. He’s not performing the duties of a president; he’s occupying that office, and using it to pursue personal gain plus various hobbyhorses. And there’s every reason to believe that bribery/blackmail are driving a lot of policy

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Frenchy  Mar 6, 2018 • 11:10:31am

re: #546 Swampwitch

I was invited to an in-person I guess around 2012 or so. They didn’t do it like that. There wasn’t this process of successive elimination like you describe. Everybody did the written test, then everybody got to play a short mock round with buzzers, 3 at a time. At the start of each mock round, each player was asked a question or two about him/herself.

I may be wrong but I didn’t really get the impression that personality was the most important factor in whether you were going to get on the show. (I mean have you seen some of these people?) We were told that your performance on the written test was the most important factor.

Anyway, they said that everyone would be kept on file for up to a year, and could potentially be called at any point during that year. I never got called though.

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JordanRules  Mar 6, 2018 • 11:13:15am
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electrotek  Mar 6, 2018 • 11:13:25am

re: #585 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

If I load the whole page in a new tab, I see it.

Paging electrotek: Your #438 broke a tag. Cleanup on aisle four.

Ah crap, I can’t close the tag! My editing time expired! UGH!

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electrotek  Mar 6, 2018 • 11:14:22am

I reported my own post in hopes of having it deleted for the amateur mistake of mine.

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jaunte  Mar 6, 2018 • 11:14:22am

re: #260 Dave In Austin

Lowest rated Oscars in HISTORY. Problem is, we don’t have Stars anymore - except your President (just kidding, of course)!

President Nora Desmond.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 6, 2018 • 11:14:39am

re: #591 electrotek

Ah crap, I can’t close the tag! My editing time expired! UGH!

No worries. It looks like our benevolent host or another moderator was able to get to it.

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Nyet  Mar 6, 2018 • 11:15:24am

LOL, this non-apology apology of a statement is getting savaged in the comments.

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JordanRules  Mar 6, 2018 • 11:16:11am
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Dr Lizardo  Mar 6, 2018 • 11:17:19am

re: #593 jaunte

President Nora Desmond.

Norma Desmond - I am a Star

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jaunte  Mar 6, 2018 • 11:17:59am

Norma! That’s it.

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jaunte  Mar 6, 2018 • 11:18:09am

Totally Norma.

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Alephnaught  Mar 6, 2018 • 11:18:49am

re: #593 jaunte

President Nora Desmond.

“I didn’t get fatter, the cameras just got smaller.”

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dangerman  Mar 6, 2018 • 11:21:13am

re: #591 electrotek

Ah crap, I can’t close the tag! My editing time expired! UGH!

are we doomed to float through all eternity with no hope of redemption?

possibly not

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dangerman  Mar 6, 2018 • 11:23:00am

re: #596 JordanRules

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busta rhymes island and the goat map upthread have made my day

i should shut my computer off now

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JordanRules  Mar 6, 2018 • 11:23:42am
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Swampwitch  Mar 6, 2018 • 11:27:06am

re: #589 Frenchy

Sounds like they changed the audition format a bit after I did it. Or maybe it was a regional way, or it depended on how many were in the cattle call. Anyway, that sounds like a much more pleasant experience all around. I would have much rathered played mock games with everyone. There were a lot of really sweet people who were there just because they loved Jeopardy. I only made it as far as I did because I’m one of those people who retains unimportant info. The others who made it to the end were highly educated. I lasted one year at UNLV before I had to go back home to take care of younger siblings for my father and stepmom #1.
It’s just as well I wasn’t called. I get crippling stage fright. It takes seven shots of ouzo to get me up on karaoke night.

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jaunte  Mar 6, 2018 • 11:28:03am
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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 6, 2018 • 11:33:52am

re: #590 JordanRules

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Kobach has been violating court orders and lying his ass off throughout this case.

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DodgerFan1988  Mar 6, 2018 • 11:35:23am

Trump Administration now going after immigrants serving in the Armed Forces.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 6, 2018 • 11:37:01am

re: #606 Big Beautiful Door

Kobach has been violating court orders and lying his ass off throughout this case.

He’s going to get spanked, he’s going to throw a right-wing tantrum, President* Trump will fire off some angry tweets, and then the whole frothing wingnut machine will start cycling the talking points and conspiracy theories. The more things change, the more they remain the same.

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gwangung  Mar 6, 2018 • 11:46:00am

re: #577 Jay C

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Not that I’m THAT much of a foreign-policy maven, but never-minding what Donald Trump says*, this looks like a BFD for Korean policy (short-term, anyway): and even though The Yam is taking credit for - well, something - ISTM like the two Koreas are doing shit with each other in spite of Trump’s hot-air posturing and belligerence, not because of it. Though I’m sure that that analysis is probably unlikely to get much media coverage.

*A generally wise move, if tragically unavoidable most of the time.

This is from a friend (Korean and reasonably familiar with Korean affairs (or, at least, more so than I):

Just to be clear, the DPRK has consistently called, for generations, robust guarantees from the U.S. for its security—in other words, the signing of a peace treaty to formally end the Korean War, and thus, remove the need for nuclear weapons, not to mention US-ROK military “exercises” and other plans and rehearsals for regime change.

They haven’t wavered from that position, while successive U.S. administrations have confusingly wavered between a range of hostile (“axis of evil”) and less-hostile (“strategic patience”) and even positive engagement (the last year of Clinton’s presidency with Albright’s visit to Pyongyang) policies. So in a sense, this is nothing new. They’ve frozen their nuclear weapons program before, and even destroyed, with US officials present to verify, nuclear weapons installations. And when promises haven’t been kept—such as the oil shipments and light water reactors that the U.S. was supposed to deliver as written in the 1994 Agreed Framework—the DPRK quickly revived its nuclear programs. We’ve heard this song.

But hopefully, this time, the song will be more on key and last a little longer.


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