White House Meltdown Watch: Unbelievably Lax Security Clearance Handling

More staffers who should never have been able to see classified material are fired
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What can you even say at this point? It’s been clear for over a year that the federal government is in the hands of a gang of incompetent, reckless, malevolent clowns: Several White House staffers terminated or reassigned for security clearance issues: Sources.

Several White House staffers have been terminated or reassigned for issues related to their security clearances — with at least one individual employed in the Office of the First Lady relieved of duty, sources with direct knowledge tell ABC News.

There is a list of several other individuals with security clearance issues that are under consideration for possible termination or reassignment in the coming days, sources also tell ABC News. These individuals are likely lower level and could include people who work in the complex but not necessarily in the small confines of the West Wing.

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freetoken  Mar 7, 2018 • 12:45:20pm

I have no doubt that the reason Sessions and Trump are coming to California to rattle on about the evils of brown immigrants is to try and deflect attention away from the messes in the Administration.

I can only hope that marshalls for whatever superior court is handling the Daniels affair are on hand to serve papers.

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freetoken  Mar 7, 2018 • 12:48:51pm

This should sink any Administration, but the GOP in Congress are abetting the criminals:

ROBERT MUELLER’S RUSSIA PROBE JUST GOT A LOT WEIRDER

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JordanRules  Mar 7, 2018 • 12:49:05pm

re: #1 freetoken

Sessions is certainly a true bigot and this has always been part of his agenda so this IS part of the messes in this admin.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 7, 2018 • 12:50:24pm
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S'latch  Mar 7, 2018 • 12:53:14pm

How long can this go on? There is no way this is going to end well, or even okay, in my customarily pessimistic opinion. My only hope is that I am so often wrong in my predictions of the future.

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JordanRules  Mar 7, 2018 • 12:53:17pm

Well damn. That kinda blew my mind.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 7, 2018 • 12:53:19pm

Whenever a discussion comes up about Trump with people I do not know and do not want to get into a drawn-out discussion with, I simply state that I do not find him qualified for the office.

This is more evidence that he is not at all qualified to be Chief Executive.

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freetoken  Mar 7, 2018 • 12:54:04pm

The interwovenness of the Russian government with criminal activity of the attempted killing of Skripal is part of the discussion here:

channel4.com

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darthstar  Mar 7, 2018 • 12:56:16pm

Well. Oiled. Machine.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:01:37pm

re: #9 darthstar

A Reporter Just Reduced Sarah Huckabee Sanders To Babble When Asking About White House Chaos

OK, but how is this different from….

/

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gocart mozart  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:02:08pm
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gocart mozart  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:02:55pm
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gocart mozart  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:05:33pm
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gocart mozart  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:06:00pm
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gocart mozart  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:06:18pm
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lawhawk  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:07:33pm

GOP spent months claiming Clinton didn’t handle classified info correctly, and yet refuses to demand accountability when there are dozens of people in Trumpworld who have been accessing classified info who had no business anywhere near any information, let alone have a job, in the WH.

That includes Ivanka and Jared, who are absent from the list.

Reducing their clearances is insufficient. They should be booted from the WH for lack of security clearance. Food handlers in WH have higher clearance that those two.

Heck, the food handlers should have higher clearance than Trump himself. If Trump were anyone other than President, he’d be incapable of getting clearance. That was self-evident from the day he announced his run until today. He shows an absolute disregard for security clearances, safeguarding classified info, and his entire team shows no interest in protecting US national security.

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:09:00pm
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JordanRules  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:09:13pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:14:00pm

re: #14 gocart mozart

“Mohammed Markstein”

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:15:04pm

Seems to me there is no way out of this where Cohen isn’t fucked. The only possible outcomes now are that he says he did all fo this on his own, faked Trump’s involvement, perpetrated a fraud upon the Court, unethically forced Daniels to sign a statement that Cohen knew to be false, is prosecuted for an illegal campaign contribution and is disbarred … or an investigation into his conduct reveals coordination with Trump and takes him down too.

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ObserverArt  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:15:37pm

Russia, if you are listening. Release the Trump Dick Pics!

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Decatur Deb  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:17:53pm

re: #21 ObserverArt

Russia, if you are listening. Release the Trump Dick Pics!

Don’t they usually want a credit card number?

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:17:56pm

re: #19 Eclectic Cyborg

“Mohammed Markstein”

I guess “Jewey McJewface” was already taken?

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Slump-chan  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:23:30pm

re: #19 Eclectic Cyborg

“Mohammed Markstein”

No, it’s “Mohammmed”

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ObserverArt  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:24:26pm

re: #7 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Whenever a discussion comes up about Trump with people I do not know and do not want to get into a drawn-out discussion with, I simply state that I do not find him qualified for the office.

This is more evidence that he is not at all qualified to be Chief Executive.

I’m still trying to figure what he is qualified for.

I don’t even think he could cut it as a household waste engineer on the back of a garbage truck or the lowest guy on a lawn crew with the job of raking up the clippings.

And to clarify, I have way more respect for both of the above workers than I can muster for any Trump.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:25:47pm

Every day the GOP lets this continue is a black mark on them.

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dangerman  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:25:58pm

re: #11 gocart mozart

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some humorous reviews of the coffee at amazon

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KGxvi  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:26:15pm

re: #25 ObserverArt

I’m still trying to figure what he is qualified for.

I don’t even think he could cut it as a household waste engineer on the back of a garbage truck or the lowest guy on a lwan crew with the job of raking up the clippings.

And to clarify, I have way more respect for both of the above workers than I can muster for any Trump.

He’s qualified to be a trust fund kid. That’s about all he or his kids are qualified to be.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:27:33pm

re: #18 JordanRules

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I have to say I really admire these athletes who see social activism as part of their calling. They don’t have to do that but I have much more respect for guys like Wade, James, & Curry who aren’t afraid to say how they feel.

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dangerman  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:27:58pm

re: #15 gocart mozart

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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:28:59pm

Charles, any of you guys that know the vinyl record biz at all-Help? I have a mother disc

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freetoken  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:29:11pm

Trump expected to inspect border wall prototypes in California next week

While there, Trump is expected to travel to San Diego to view the eight prototypes for the president’s long-promised border wall.

Sure, AF1 can land at North Island or Miramar no problem, but the only way Trump will be able to avoid the masses is by moving around by helicopter.

And he’s going to a fundraiser in Los Angeles. As if there won’t be a lot attention up there.

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ObserverArt  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:29:32pm

re: #18 JordanRules

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I hope D-Wade brings the entire NBA to the issue and they make it a thing. And that could possibly trigger all the major sports to jump in similar to Kaepernick with the BLM movement.

The movements are already joining with the students and BLM working together.

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Renaissance_Man  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:29:40pm

re: #6 JordanRules

Well damn. That kinda blew my mind.

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See, this is the thing. We’ve had bad American presidents before. We’ve had foolish American presidents before. We’ve even had criminal American presidents before. But they’ve all had redeeming qualities. They’ve all believed in the value of the American people and the American state, and they’ve all had at least some empathy and some concern for humans that aren’t themselves. Furthermore, they’ve also been men of personal accomplishment (except maybe W), who have demonstrated success in other fields and risen because of that. And even W at least had extensive political experience.

But now, not only do we have a criminal and woeful American president, but also a singularly disgusting and vile human, with no redeeming qualities at all. None. The fact that millions of Americans think that this is normal and even desirable is a stain on this nation that cannot be erased.

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dangerman  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:29:49pm

re: #18 JordanRules

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wade vs devos

the two events speak for themselves

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Kragar  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:30:08pm
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lawhawk  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:30:37pm

re: #1 freetoken

I have no doubt that the reason Sessions and Trump are coming to California to rattle on about the evils of brown immigrants is to try and deflect attention away from the messes in the Administration.

I can only hope that marshalls for whatever superior court is handling the Daniels affair are on hand to serve papers.

It’ll make it that much easier for Daniels to do service of process on Trump in California. /

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:30:52pm

re: #35 dangerman

I would love to watch Wade dunk on Devos metaphorically AND literally.

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William Lewis  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:31:42pm

re: #6 JordanRules

Well damn. That kinda blew my mind.

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Every - EVERY - president was a better person than Trump.

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KGxvi  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:32:14pm

re: #34 Renaissance_Man

See, this is the thing. We’ve had bad American presidents before. We’ve had foolish American presidents before. We’ve even had criminal American presidents before. But they’ve all had redeeming qualities. They’ve all believed in the value of the American people and the American state, and they’ve all had at least some empathy and some concern for humans that aren’t themselves. Furthermore, they’ve also been men of personal accomplishment (except maybe W), who have demonstrated success in other fields and risen because of that. And even W at least had extensive political experience.

But now, not only do we have a criminal and woeful American president, but also a singularly disgusting and vile human, with no redeeming qualities at all. None. The fact that millions of Americans think that this is normal and even desirable is a stain on this nation that cannot be erased.

As Jon Lovett often says, “we have elected the worst of us.”

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:32:30pm

re: #39 William Lewis

Every - EVERY - president was a better person than Trump.

Well maybe not Andrew Johnson, who was a virulent racist.

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William Lewis  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:32:41pm

re: #11 gocart mozart

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Naw, they only sell that to ICE agents…

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makeitstop  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:33:00pm

re: #6 JordanRules

Well damn. That kinda blew my mind.

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There’s video!

SYND 9-3-74 NIXON ACCOMPANIES SINGER PEARL BAILEY AT THE PIANO

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:33:07pm

re: #39 William Lewis

Trump is somewhere between Jeffrey Dahmer and Adolf Hitler on the likability scale.

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ObserverArt  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:33:24pm

re: #22 Decatur Deb

Don’t they usually want a credit card number?

In this case they seem workable.

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KGxvi  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:33:58pm

re: #41 Big Beautiful Door

Well maybe not Andrew Johnson, who was a virulent racist.

Johnson or Jackson? Or both?

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dangerman  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:34:12pm

re: #20 goddamnedfrank

Seems to me there is no way out of this where Cohen isn’t fucked. The only possible outcomes now are that he says he did all fo this on his own, faked Trump’s involvement, perpetrated a fraud upon the Court, unethically forced Daniels to sign a statement that Cohen knew to be false, is prosecuted for an illegal campaign contribution and is disbarred … or an investigation into his conduct reveals coordination with Trump and takes him down too.

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somewhere mueller’s going “if only we could have jumped ahead to this and skipped a year of boring painstaking (did i say boring) investigating”

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Decatur Deb  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:34:27pm

re: #41 Big Beautiful Door

Well maybe not Andrew Johnson, who was a virulent racist.

You could probably hang that on every president up to FDR, with varying degrees of virulence.

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lawhawk  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:35:12pm

re: #41 Big Beautiful Door

But he too was an accomplished politician, serving in the state legislature, was governor, US Senator, and then ultimately VP and President on Lincoln’s assassination. His policies and racism also reflected the times.

Trump is president during a more enlightened time and is trying to bring back all that Johnson stood for.

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KGxvi  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:35:24pm

re: #43 makeitstop

I really do wonder how different history would have viewed Nixon had he won in 1960. I don’t think he becomes the paranoid mess that he was by the late 60s, and maybe JFK runs again, and the entire course of world history is different.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:36:01pm

re: #48 Decatur Deb

But unlike todays virulent racists, FDR et al. were in line with the beliefs of their time.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:36:44pm

re: #43 makeitstop

There’s video!

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Video

That was awesome! Very funny and the bass player was cracking up.

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:36:56pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:37:30pm

re: #53 Ace Rothstein

I really hope he loses.

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dangerman  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:37:36pm

re: #26 Eclectic Cyborg

Every day the GOP lets this continue is a black mark on them.

im beginning to wonder if they are so far down the rabbit hole they dont know how to get out now

ok, this is the one
ok, this is really the one
today is the last straw…

because “this was your bridge to far… this….what about all the oth….”?

its like there’s no letting go

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Decatur Deb  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:37:39pm

re: #51 Eclectic Cyborg

But unlike todays virulent racists, FDR et al. were in line with the beliefs of their time.

So was Attila, and they still badmouth him all over Northern Italy.

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Ace-o-aces  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:37:51pm

re: #14 gocart mozart

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HappyWarrior  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:37:58pm

re: #49 lawhawk

But he too was an accomplished politician, serving in the state legislature, was governor, US Senator, and then ultimately VP and President on Lincoln’s assassination. His policies and racism also reflected the times.

Trump is president during a more enlightened time and is trying to bring back all that Johnson stood for.

And to his credit he chose the Union over secession. Awful president and racist even by that time’s standard but better than Trump.

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KGxvi  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:38:59pm

re: #54 Eclectic Cyborg

I really hope he loses.

He might actually have a case. State law says 18 in Oregon. It’d be much better if Dick’s and Walmart just didn’t sell guns, but what are you going to do?

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Kragar  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:39:45pm
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William Lewis  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:40:07pm

re: #41 Big Beautiful Door

Well maybe not Andrew Johnson, who was a virulent racist.

I’d say even Johnson was the better person. Heck, even Wilson who was even more racist than Johnson. But we have to remember that with Trump that’s a bar an ant can jump over.

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makeitstop  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:40:55pm

It’s gone full-on blizzard out here on Long Island. Heavy, wet snow, falling like it’s Christmas Eve.

I guess I’ll be using that snow blower after all.

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Belafon  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:41:34pm

re: #59 KGxvi

He might actually have a case. State law says 18 in Oregon. It’d be much better if Dick’s and Walmart just didn’t sell guns, but what are you going to do?

My son couldn’t rent a hotel room because he was under 21, and there’s no law requiring that.

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JordanRules  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:41:48pm

re: #43 makeitstop

Ha!! That was a hoot.

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dangerman  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:43:13pm

re: #43 makeitstop

There’s video!

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Video

trump dont play the piano do he?

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:43:33pm

re: #59 KGxvi

In Texas, if you’re a minor, you can legally drink if you’re with your parents. That doesn’t mean the establishment has to abide by it though.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:43:43pm

re: #59 KGxvi

He might actually have a case. State law says 18 in Oregon. It’d be much better if Dick’s and Walmart just didn’t sell guns, but what are you going to do?

I can’t help but wonder if it’s a publicity stunt. Kid is probably hoping for a fat settlement.

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Renaissance_Man  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:43:47pm

re: #61 William Lewis

I’d say even Johnson was the better person. Heck, even Wilson who was even more racist than Johnson. But we have to remember that with Trump that’s a bar an ant can jump over.

No question they were better people. They chose on multiple occasions to serve their country, and no doubt had at least some empathy for other people, as well as the capacity for hard work and self-improvement. Trump has none of these things, and ran solely for his own self-aggrandisement.

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makeitstop  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:43:59pm

re: #64 JordanRules

Ha!! That was a hoot.

Nixon was a pretty good straight man, and Pearl was such a pro.

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makeitstop  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:44:38pm

re: #65 dangerman

trump dont play the piano do he?

No, he hires piano players and then doesn’t pay them.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:45:26pm

re: #67 Eclectic Cyborg

I can’t help but wonder if it’s a publicity stunt. Kid is probably hoping for a fat settlement.

Or a College Republican National Committee stunt.

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:45:51pm

re: #65 dangerman

trump dont play the piano do he?

No, he plays his base for the suckers that they are.

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ObserverArt  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:45:56pm

re: #55 dangerman

im beginning to wonder if they are so far down the rabbit hole they dont know how to get out now

ok, this is the one
ok, this is really the one
today is the last straw…

because “this was your bridge to far… this….what about all the oth….”?

its like there’s no letting go

I think Robert Mueller is a very organized man. He will put all of this in proper perspective and detail how it all went down and its connections to everyone that is connected.

I happen to think he sees this as a historic mission and a big need to bring this whole sad episode to a proper end with a lesson learned that may last for a long time.

He is old enough to have seen this whole change in politics fueled by such BS as Fox News and wingnut radio. He has a chance to kill a lot of bad and I think he understands that and is prepared to do whatever he needs to do it.

I think he sees it as a war for the soul of this country.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:45:56pm

re: #55 dangerman

im beginning to wonder if they are so far down the rabbit hole they dont know how to get out now

ok, this is the one
ok, this is really the one
today is the last straw…

because “this was your bridge to far… this….what about all the oth….”?

its like there’s no letting go

Maybe….they’ve realized the good ship USS Republican Party has been holed below the waterline….the ship is taking on water fast, and they know it’s going down, but they’ve decided they’ll go down with the ship.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:46:13pm

re: #70 makeitstop

No, he hires piano players and then doesn’t pay them.

Playing the pianist.

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dangerman  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:46:33pm

re: #53 Ace Rothstein

20-year-old Oregon man sues Dick’s Sporting Goods and Walmart for “unlawful age discrimination” after he claimed both retailers refused to sell him a rifle

you got options right?
cant you go to another store where they are willing to serve your kind?

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Kragar  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:46:41pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:46:44pm

re: #72 Ace Rothstein

No, he plays his base for the suckers that they are.

Play it again, Vlad, play No Collusion for old times sake.

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freetoken  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:47:18pm

Police officer first on scene after Russian spy and daughter poisoned is fighting for his life

The UK cannot not do something.

And it has to be more than mere tokenism:

Prince William reveals he is ‘not attending’ World Cup 2018 in Russia amid poisoned spy scandal

At the bottom of this will come out some revelation about foreign involvement linked to various Russian operatives. Even if Putin didn’t order it himself, some minor official trying to find favor could have done so.

Sound familiar?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:47:23pm

re: #75 Decatur Deb

Playing the pianist.

But clearly not a 12 inch pianist.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:47:48pm

re: #80 Eclectic Cyborg

But clearly not a 12 inch pianist.

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*WHACK!*

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Belafon  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:47:57pm

re: #55 dangerman

im beginning to wonder if they are so far down the rabbit hole they dont know how to get out now

ok, this is the one
ok, this is really the one
today is the last straw…

because “this was your bridge to far… this….what about all the oth….”?

its like there’s no letting go

The only way for them to get out is to lose at the ballot box repeatedly until they purge the worst elements from the group.

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ObserverArt  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:48:03pm

re: #65 dangerman

trump dont play the piano do he?

Hands are too small with fingers too stubby to hit the black keys.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:48:06pm

re: #77 Kragar

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A) I don’t live in a gated community, B) Nor have I ever lived anywhere with armed guards, C) I went to K-12 public school and a public college, shut up Charlie.

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JordanRules  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:49:54pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:50:13pm

re: #84 HappyWarrior

It’s funny how he thinks conservatives never use armed security.

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freetoken  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:50:16pm

Trump’s lack of engagement on:

1) Russian involvement in US elections;
2) Russian involvement in hacking other data;
3) The killing of various Russians now living outside (and inside) of Russia;
4) The war crimes on-going in Syria.

All make for damnation by silence.

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KingKenrod  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:51:58pm

re: #79 freetoken

Seems like a well-timed message from Russia…cross us, and you’ll spend the rest of your life looking over your shoulder.

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ObserverArt  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:52:49pm

re: #78 HappyWarrior

Play it again, Vlad, play No Collusion for old times sake.

I’m shocked to find out that collusion is going on!

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JordanRules  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:53:31pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:54:30pm

re: #90 JordanRules

Of course, because Trump has completely gimped the U.S. to Russias benefit.

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ObserverArt  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:54:55pm

re: #85 JordanRules

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Nicole Wallace just flashed that image of Rachel’s huge list a few minutes ago.

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JordanRules  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:55:13pm
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Kragar  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:56:15pm
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dangerman  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:56:22pm

re: #73 ObserverArt

I think Robert Mueller is a very organized man. He will put all of this in proper perspective and detail how it all went down and its connections to everyone that is connected.

I happen to think he sees this as a historic mission and a big need to bring this whole sad episode to a proper end with a lesson learned that may last for a long time.

He is old enough to have seen this whole change in politics fueled by such BS as Fox News and wingnut radio. He has a chance to kill a lot of bad and I think he understands that and is prepared to do whatever he needs to do it.

I think he sees it as a war for the soul of this country.

i agree and i’ll add that he is probably redoubling his effort and resolve every day as new things come to light - not all directly related to his work

the security clearances
the general chaos and dysfunction
what’s become a daily drama

none of it is normal for the office of the presidency and that’s what mueller is trying to protect/resurrect

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:58:08pm

I would love it if Mueller wrapped things up around say, the last week of October?

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JordanRules  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:58:22pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 7, 2018 • 1:58:27pm

re: #46 KGxvi

Johnson or Jackson? Or both?

Jackson too.

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freetoken  Mar 7, 2018 • 2:00:57pm

Trump will raise money in Beverly Hills next week. Donors can give up to $250,000

The fundraiser is being hosted by Republican National Committee Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel, national finance chairman Todd Ricketts and deputy national finance chairman Elliott Broidy.

One interesting bit of info on the latter:

A Top Trump Fund-Raiser Says Qatar Hacked His Email

A cyberwar in the Persian Gulf reverberated in the United States this week as a top Republican fund-raiser accused agents for Qatar of hacking into his email to plant damaging articles in the American news media.

The fund-raiser, Elliott Broidy, 60, a national deputy finance chairman of the Republican National Committee, is the owner of a company with hundreds of millions of dollars in contracts to provide services to the United Arab Emirates. Qatar called Mr. Broidy’s charges a false “diversionary tactic to distract from the serious allegations against himself and his client, the United Arab Emirates.”

Mr. Broidy and Qatar each threatened legal actions.

[…]

Everything touched by Trump turns rotten.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 7, 2018 • 2:01:48pm

The event that really got my CT juices flowing was when that young Turkish security officer assassinated the Russian diplomat on live teevee.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 7, 2018 • 2:02:38pm

re: #99 freetoken

You’d have to be one stupid motherfucker to give Trump 250 large.

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freetoken  Mar 7, 2018 • 2:03:03pm

re: #101 Eclectic Cyborg

You’d have to be one stupid motherfucker to give Trump 250 large.

The Don always collects from his under-bosses.

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LastYearsMan  Mar 7, 2018 • 2:03:17pm

re: #84 HappyWarrior

A) I don’t live in a gated community, B) Nor have I ever lived anywhere with armed guards, C) I went to K-12 public school and a public college, shut up Charlie.

The nutty right is so strange. Not only are they motivated by a hatred of all things “liberal,” but they also totally make up the liberal that they hate so much. 98% fantasy. It’s like they are playing out some odd psychodrama from their childhoods … Not getting hugged enough or invited to birthday parties or something.

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Bubblehead II  Mar 7, 2018 • 2:04:07pm

re: #67 Eclectic Cyborg

I can’t help but wonder if it’s a publicity stunt. Kid is probably hoping for a fat settlement.

Would lay odds that his Lawyer is being paid for by the (indirectly) NRA.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 7, 2018 • 2:04:53pm

Gonna call it a day. Have a good one, Lizards.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 7, 2018 • 2:05:58pm

re: #104 Bubblehead II

Would lay odds that his Lawyer is being paid for by the (indirectly) NRA.

I can just about guarantee that the guy was put up to it. They do this, you know; when laws get passed or policies decreed that are unpopular, lobbying groups find shills who are willing to go to court for them, tell them to do the thing, and then direct them to a friendly lawyer who is already prepped for the case.

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freetoken  Mar 7, 2018 • 2:06:00pm

re: #97 JordanRules

It’ll be a good thing for America when the RNC fails to raise money due to incompetence.

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dangerman  Mar 7, 2018 • 2:06:04pm

the worst

A new Quinnipiac poll finds that 41% of Americans think Donald Trump is the worst of the 13 presidents who have served since the end of World War II, followed by
21% who list Barack Obama and 10% who cite Richard Nixon.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 7, 2018 • 2:06:34pm

re: #108 dangerman

the worst

21% say Barack Obama is the worst president since WWII? Well, we’ve identified the racists.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 7, 2018 • 2:07:50pm

re: #109 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

21% say Barack Obama is the worst president since WWII? Well, we’ve identified the racists.

With a significant overlay of puddin’ heads.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 7, 2018 • 2:08:01pm

re: #109 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

21% say Barack Obama is the worst president since WWII? Well, we’ve identified the racists.

And the hippies; the 10% who pick Nixon.

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freetoken  Mar 7, 2018 • 2:08:40pm

re: #109 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

They’re still trying to blame Obama:

Obama’s Ugly Legacy in the Mideast

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 7, 2018 • 2:09:41pm

re: #111 Big Beautiful Door

And the hippies; the 10% who pick Nixon.

Well, at least with Nixon, there’s a legit argument. Literally the only reason to say Obama is the worst president of the modern era is because he’s black. He had no scandals and he didn’t enact any outrageous policies. Obamacare wasn’t even all that unpopular, and that would basically be the single “worst” thing he did.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 7, 2018 • 2:11:27pm

re: #111 Big Beautiful Door

And the hippies; the 10% who pick Nixon.

Would have gone with W as worse than Nixon, then Trump made the question moot.

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Skip Intro  Mar 7, 2018 • 2:11:29pm

re: #41 Big Beautiful Door

Well maybe not Andrew Johnson, who was a virulent racist.

You mean like Trump? You could take every other president’s worst flaws and add them together and they wouldn’t come close to Trump all by himself.

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dangerman  Mar 7, 2018 • 2:12:00pm

re: #103 LastYearsMan

The nutty right is so strange. Not only are they motivated by a hatred of all things “liberal,” but they also totally make up the liberal that they hate so much. 98% fantasy. It’s like they are playing out some odd psychodrama from their childhoods … Not getting hugged enough or invited to birthday parties or something.

envy

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Ace-o-aces  Mar 7, 2018 • 2:15:03pm
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Skip Intro  Mar 7, 2018 • 2:16:31pm

re: #57 Ace-o-aces

You forgot an ‘M’.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 7, 2018 • 2:19:18pm

re: #112 freetoken

They’re still trying to blame Obama:

Obama’s Ugly Legacy in the Mideast

Not going to read it, but I’m going to guess it’s light on context.

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Ace-o-aces  Mar 7, 2018 • 2:21:32pm
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Decatur Deb  Mar 7, 2018 • 2:21:34pm

re: #109 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

21% say Barack Obama is the worst president since WWII? Well, we’ve identified the racists.

Actually, that’s kind of encouraging. We can manage a country that has only 21% who are that whacked out.

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bratwurst  Mar 7, 2018 • 2:22:10pm
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KGxvi  Mar 7, 2018 • 2:22:55pm

re: #103 LastYearsMan

The nutty right is so strange. Not only are they motivated by a hatred of all things “liberal,” but they also totally make up the liberal that they hate so much. 98% fantasy. It’s like they are playing out some odd psychodrama from their childhoods … Not getting hugged enough or invited to birthday parties or something.

As someone fluent in wingnut, he missed something in translation… this is supposed to be about the limousine liberals in Hollywood and New York City (Archer voice: you can just say New York) and DC.

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ObserverArt  Mar 7, 2018 • 2:23:29pm

re: #113 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Well, at least with Nixon, there’s a legit argument. Literally the only reason to say Obama is the worst president of the modern era is because he’s black. He had no scandals and he didn’t enact any outrageous policies. Obamacare wasn’t even all that unpopular, and that would basically be the single “worst” thing he did.

You are totally forgetting The Fox News Filter. Obama is the only Democrat president to have to deal with them. Yes, he is Black, but I believe they would have trashed Gore or Kerry the very same. That he was Black made it easier, but the attacks of the politics would have been much the same.

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dangerman  Mar 7, 2018 • 2:24:02pm

re: #123 KGxvi

As someone fluent in wingnut, he missed something in translation… this is supposed to be about the limousine liberals in Hollywood and New York City (Archer voice: you can just say New York) and DC.

my current favorite thing

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Belafon  Mar 7, 2018 • 2:24:06pm

Ummm, the Trump-Daniels NDA Forbade Her from Revealing “any alleged children” of Trump . Go to the DK link to see an image of that part of the NDA.

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KGxvi  Mar 7, 2018 • 2:25:46pm

re: #125 dangerman

my current favorite thing

New season at the end of April!

I use “duh and/or hello” a lot. And “also, yes.”

I’m not smart enough to use “who am I [insert obscure historical reference]?”

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 7, 2018 • 2:27:03pm

OT I just finished shoveling my front walk and my neighbor popped out to widen it and salt it. I am checking with as many sites as I can to figure out if the city will be closed tomorrow too. I do not think so but I am hopeful.

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dangerman  Mar 7, 2018 • 2:28:12pm

re: #126 Belafon

Ummm, the Trump-Daniels NDA Forbade Her from Revealing “any alleged children” of Trump . Go to the DK link to see an image of that part of the NDA.

could she reveal any real children?

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Decatur Deb  Mar 7, 2018 • 2:29:06pm

re: #126 Belafon

Ummm, the Trump-Daniels NDA Forbade Her from Revealing “any alleged children” of Trump . Go to the DK link to see an image of that part of the NDA.

Probably just boilerplate in all his NDAs for goomahs.

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dangerman  Mar 7, 2018 • 2:29:29pm

re: #127 KGxvi

New season at the end of April!

I use “duh and/or hello” a lot. And “also, yes.”

I’m not smart enough to use “who am I [insert obscure historical reference]?”

this is my absolute favorite thing of all - i want to make it my ringtone:

YouTube

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JordanRules  Mar 7, 2018 • 2:30:51pm

re: #124 ObserverArt

The Fox filter was built around Clinton. They could have picked Bill.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 7, 2018 • 2:33:14pm

A special weather note to those of us who watch the weather closely. NWS offices in Mt Holly have reported that there was thunder-snow reported in the area. I do not have the tweet but I do know it was reported.

Update: WHYY has a copy of the tweet and a little more information and pictures.
whyy.org

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Bubblehead II  Mar 7, 2018 • 2:42:20pm
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JordanRules  Mar 7, 2018 • 2:46:22pm

Spent all this time avoiding London and you’re just gonna waltz into Cali thinking shit is sweet. I hope he gets verbally lit up by protesters!

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dangerman  Mar 7, 2018 • 2:49:19pm

re: #134 Bubblehead II

The left tells us they hate walls yet they live in gated communities

The left tells us they hate guns while being protected by armed guards

The left tells us they hate school choice while sending their kids to private schools

what is this ominous, single minded, unanimous, unvarying borg you call “the left”?

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Decatur Deb  Mar 7, 2018 • 2:50:39pm

Strong, reliable military supporter:

sciplus.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 7, 2018 • 2:52:18pm

re: #29 HappyWarrior

I have to say I really admire these athletes who see social activism as part of their calling. They don’t have to do that but I have much more respect for guys like Wade, James, & Curry who aren’t afraid to say how they feel.

Dwyane isn’t afraid to say how he feels either.

(and Nathan Hoffman gets burnt to a crisp in the replies to his tweet to Dwyane)

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 7, 2018 • 2:53:11pm

re: #137 Decatur Deb

You should have put that behind a “click to reveal button.”

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Decatur Deb  Mar 7, 2018 • 2:54:09pm

re: #139 PhillyPretzel

You should have put that behind a “click to reveal button.”

It’s just a html hotlink on my screen.

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Romantic Heretic  Mar 7, 2018 • 2:55:14pm

re: #14 gocart mozart

Mohammed Markstein? Wow! A stereotype twofer.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 7, 2018 • 3:07:36pm

re: #32 freetoken

Trump expected to inspect border wall prototypes in California next week

Sure, AF1 can land at North Island or Miramar no problem, but the only way Trump will be able to avoid the masses is by moving around by helicopter.

And he’s going to a fundraiser in Los Angeles. As if there won’t be a lot attention up there.

But James Woods says LA is a shithole:

he really should move if he doesn’t like it there….

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Jay C  Mar 7, 2018 • 3:08:09pm

re: #141 Romantic Heretic

Mohammed Markstein? Wow! A stereotype twofer.

You should be accurate, RH; it’s “Mohammmed”.

What I’m wondering is how many people took this inane parody (and I really can’t imagine it being anything else) serious and freaked out calling in this “terrorist organization” to the authorities…

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 7, 2018 • 3:12:40pm

OK, interested in eventually seeing the Paul Harvey on this.
Wild ass guess, someone negligently discharged a pistol, and a single bullet struck two people

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Jebediah, RBG  Mar 7, 2018 • 3:12:45pm

re: #25 ObserverArt

I’m still trying to figure what he is qualified for.

I don’t even think he could cut it as a household waste engineer on the back of a garbage truck or the lowest guy on a lawn crew with the job of raking up the clippings.

And to clarify, I have way more respect for both of the above workers than I can muster for any Trump.

Yeah, they are both making an honest living.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 7, 2018 • 3:13:55pm

re: #134 Bubblehead II

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Wait, wait, wait - the Left lives in gated communities? That’s funny, because the Right also says the Left are all lazy moochers who live on the dole.

How the hell do you live on the dole in a gated community?

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dangerman  Mar 7, 2018 • 3:14:33pm

re: #143 Jay C

You should be accurate, RH; it’s “Mohammmed”.

What I’m wondering is how many people took this inane parody (and I really can’t imagine it being anything else) serious and freaked out calling in this “terrorist organization” to the authorities…

LLC Co, Inc.? That’s some pedigree

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 7, 2018 • 3:15:28pm

Welp, it’s coming down wet and heavy now but overnight we’re to get on average an inch or more per hour through morning. Looking like 12-15” of snow—they keep calling it “heart attack snow” in local reports.

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dangerman  Mar 7, 2018 • 3:16:02pm

re: #144 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

OK, interested in eventually seeing the Paul Harvey on this.
Wild ass guess, someone negligently discharged a pistol, and a single bullet struck two people

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“Accident” my ass

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ObserverArt  Mar 7, 2018 • 3:16:20pm

re: #132 JordanRules

The Fox filter was built around Clinton. They could have picked Bill.

True, but it really was just getting started. They have gotten more bold as they go. And of course, they still use Bill and Hil as targets. But Obama got the full, now well polished, Fox treatment.

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Skip Intro  Mar 7, 2018 • 3:18:59pm

re: #144 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

OK, interested in eventually seeing the Paul Harvey on this.
Wild ass guess, someone negligently discharged a pistol, and a single bullet struck two people

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Two good guys with guns?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 7, 2018 • 3:19:25pm

re: #117 Ace-o-aces

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I prefer ‘SpokesHarpy’ to ‘Spokeschick’, personally….

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 7, 2018 • 3:20:33pm

When Fooler starts off like this you know it’s going to be good. Thread still in progress.

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KGxvi  Mar 7, 2018 • 3:21:30pm

re: #152 Blind Frog Belly White

I prefer ‘SpokesHarpy’ to ‘Spokeschick’, personally….

Is Blathering Idiot already in use?

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bratwurst  Mar 7, 2018 • 3:22:47pm

re: #142 Backwoods_Sleuth

But James Woods says LA is a shithole:

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he really should move if he doesn’t like it there….

It’s not like he’s working in show biz there these days!

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ObserverArt  Mar 7, 2018 • 3:24:46pm

re: #155 bratwurst

It’s not like he’s working in show biz there these days!

Why doesn’t he have a contract with the NRA???

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 7, 2018 • 3:27:53pm

This makes me wonder whether the Stormy Daniels suit may open the floodgates -
imagine how many people may think they’re bound by an NDA that Trump never signed, to give himself deniability.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 7, 2018 • 3:28:23pm

re: #154 KGxvi

Is Blathering Idiot already in use?

Reserved for POTUS.

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Mike Lamb  Mar 7, 2018 • 3:29:13pm

re: #142 Backwoods_Sleuth

But James Woods says LA is a shithole:

[Embedded content]

he really should move if he doesn’t like it there….

This is really a case where this logic applies. Dude has means. He really doesn’t have to be there if it’s such a shithole.

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KGxvi  Mar 7, 2018 • 3:29:19pm

re: #153 goddamnedfrank

I’m on board with everyone else saying “go on…”

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whitebeach  Mar 7, 2018 • 3:29:48pm

re: #65 dangerman

trump dont play the piano do he?

I think he’s pretty much of a squeezebox man.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 7, 2018 • 3:30:45pm

re: #142 Backwoods_Sleuth

But James Woods says LA is a shithole:

[Embedded content]

he really should move if he doesn’t like it there….

It’s the latest thing on the Right - California has become like a 3rd World country.

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Varek Raith  Mar 7, 2018 • 3:31:13pm

Mohammmed Markstein?
Lolwhut.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 7, 2018 • 3:31:58pm

re: #163 Varek Raith

I think it was something on a previous thread.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 7, 2018 • 3:35:47pm

re: #164 PhillyPretzel

I think it was something on a previous thread.

I think the response of “Jewy McJewface” was pretty spot on, though.

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scottslemmons  Mar 7, 2018 • 3:37:14pm

re: #153 goddamnedfrank

When Fooler starts off like this you know it’s going to be good. Thread still in progress.

[Embedded content]

Damn, this is high drama. I’m on pins and needles…

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KGxvi  Mar 7, 2018 • 3:38:13pm

re: #162 Blind Frog Belly White

It’s the latest thing on the Right - California has become like a 3rd World country.

Projection, it’s always projection with them.

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ObserverArt  Mar 7, 2018 • 3:38:28pm

re: #157 Blind Frog Belly White

This makes me wonder whether the Stormy Daniels suit may open the floodgates -
imagine how many people may think they’re bound by an NDA that Trump never signed, to give himself deniability.

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Does an NDA have to also be notarized at the signing? I wonder if there was a seal on it, or maybe someone from Cohen office fudging things.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 7, 2018 • 3:40:41pm

If there was no affair why did she have to sign an NDA to not talk about an affair she never had?

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KGxvi  Mar 7, 2018 • 3:41:59pm

re: #168 ObserverArt

Does an NDA have to also be notarized at the signing? I wonder if there was a seal on it, or maybe someone from Cohen office fudging things.

Under California law they don’t need to be notarized. And it actually complicates things if they’re signing under pseudonyms because the whole point of a notary is that the notary is confirming who is signing a document.

There’s something very, very strange about this story and this case.

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Mike Lamb  Mar 7, 2018 • 3:43:50pm

re: #169 The Vicious Babushka

If there was no affair why did she have to sign an NDA to not talk about an affair she never had?

[Embedded content]

Morons…your bus is leaving.

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lawhawk  Mar 7, 2018 • 3:45:07pm

re: #169 The Vicious Babushka

It’s an awful lot of work to do NDAs for affairs that didn’t happen.

Did Cohen just have a form NDA that he’d fill in the blanks and cut checks to women on behalf of Trump? How often did this happen?

And if Trump didn’t sign and Cohen wasn’t authorized to sign, then these don’t have any force and effect, which means Daniels is under no obligation to remain silent (and all those other NDAs are likely done the same way, which means they too aren’t worth the paper written on).

Cohen really isn’t that good a lawyer.

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Romantic Heretic  Mar 7, 2018 • 3:45:40pm

re: #60 Kragar

The Tree of Liberty must be watered with blood!

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ObserverArt  Mar 7, 2018 • 3:45:48pm

re: #169 The Vicious Babushka

If there was no affair why did she have to sign an NDA to not talk about an affair she never had?

[Embedded content]

They are not very good at this.

Sure is a great indication why Trump was such a terrible businessman. They probably did stupid shit like this on all kinds of dealings.

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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 7, 2018 • 3:46:11pm

re: #142 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m a 3rd generation LA native. Fuck james Woods.

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Ace-o-aces  Mar 7, 2018 • 3:47:04pm

re: #142 Backwoods_Sleuth

But James Woods says LA is a shithole:

[Embedded content]

he really should move if he doesn’t like it there….

It’s kind of like how Alex Jones lives in Austin and Michael Savage lives in San Francisco. Apparently they need to live in liberal cities to keep reminding them how much they hate liberals.

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ObserverArt  Mar 7, 2018 • 3:52:18pm

re: #172 lawhawk

It’s an awful lot of work to do NDAs for affairs that didn’t happen.

Did Cohen just have a form NDA that he’d fill in the blanks and cut checks to women on behalf of Trump? How often did this happen?

And if Trump didn’t sign and Cohen wasn’t authorized to sign, then these don’t have any force and effect, which means Daniels is under no obligation to remain silent (and all those other NDAs are likely done the same way, which means they too aren’t worth the paper written on).

Cohen really isn’t that good a lawyer.

Maybe “fake” NDAs are part of the Trump legal team toolbox. Trump probably figures everyone thinks he has the money and the resolve to fight them all the way and they fear him. So, they accept the NDAs. And I bet the way it works with his lawyers is he finds guys willing to do what he wants and not what a good lawyer would recommend.

We’ve heard many lawyers won’t work for him, or they record and document his every utterance if they do. Cohen must be a bottom feeder to have stuck by Trump this long. He is just a part of the ‘gang.”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 7, 2018 • 3:53:30pm

“I am saying this in my own words. I was not coerced. My hosts, the peace-loving people of North Korea Sinclair have been treating me well. I have come to see how wrong the capitalist imperialist United States main stream media have been in their actions.”

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ObserverArt  Mar 7, 2018 • 3:54:07pm

re: #176 Ace-o-aces

It’s kind of like how Alex Jones lives in Austin and Michael Savage lives in San Francisco. Apparently they need to live in liberal cities to keep reminding them how much they hate liberals.

Method living.

Good for the show.

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makeitstop  Mar 7, 2018 • 3:54:51pm

re: #177 ObserverArt

Maybe “fake” NDAs are part of the Trump legal team toolbox. Trump probably figures everyone thinks he has the money and the resolve to fight them all the way and they fear him. So, they accept the NDAs. And I bet the way it works with his lawyers is he finds guys willing to do what he wants and not what a good lawyer would recommend.

We’ve heard many lawyers won’t work for him, or they record and document his every utterance if they do. Cohen must be a bottom feeder to have stuck by Trump this long. He is just a part of the ‘gang.”

Mob wannabe. He gets off on threatening people with his awesome lawyerness.
////

I want to see him go down as hard, if not harder, than anyone not named Donald J. Trump. Disbar his ass.

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dangerman  Mar 7, 2018 • 3:55:28pm

re: #176 Ace-o-aces

It’s kind of like how Alex Jones lives in Austin and Michael Savage lives in San Francisco. Apparently they need to live in liberal cities to keep reminding them how much they hate liberals.

They want to live where the living is good

They are just liars

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ObserverArt  Mar 7, 2018 • 3:57:54pm

So, Ari Melber is saying the NY Times just put out a story about Trump asking those that have been Mueller “witnesses” what they have been telling Mueller. As Ari said…that’s a big no-no.

I bet that article is tweeted up in 5 - 4 - 3 - 2 -

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lawhawk  Mar 7, 2018 • 3:59:09pm

re: #170 KGxvi

Cohen’s a NY lawyer. Not a particularly good one at that.

He went out of his way to cross out that he was attorney for DD on the hush agreement, and put in that he was attorney for Essential Consultants LLC, which was an attempt to obfuscate the money source/who was bound to the agreement IMO.

This reeks.

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Skip Intro  Mar 7, 2018 • 4:00:13pm

re: #169 The Vicious Babushka

If there was no affair why did she have to sign an NDA to not talk about an affair she never had?

[Embedded content]

I’m going to wait for Hannity to explain it all to me.

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Jay C  Mar 7, 2018 • 4:01:52pm

re: #162 Blind Frog Belly White

It’s the latest thing on the Right - California has become like a 3rd World country.

You mean like France, Spain or Italy - countries whose economies are about the same size as California’s?

And if CA is such a shithole, how come so many people (like, say, one out of every nine Americans) want to live there?

I’m sure James Woods IS quite pissed off at all those “miles of tent cities” - they probably spoil his view as he tools past them in his Ferrari.

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KGxvi  Mar 7, 2018 • 4:02:01pm

re: #184 Skip Intro

I’m going to wait for Hannity to explain it all to me.

Early transcript of Hannity for tonight:

Chewbacca defense

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KGxvi  Mar 7, 2018 • 4:04:08pm

re: #185 Jay C

You mean like France, Spain or Italy - countries whose economies are about the same size as California’s?

And if CA is such a shithole, how come so many people (like, say, one out of every nine Americans) want to live there?

I’m sure James Woods IS quite pissed off at all those “miles of tent cities” - they probably spoil his view as he tools past them in his Ferrari.

About the only time Woods might see tent cities is when he’s on the freeway on his way to the Bicycle Casino. And it’s definitely not miles of them.

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dangerman  Mar 7, 2018 • 4:04:47pm

re: #183 lawhawk

Cohen’s a NY lawyer. Not a particularly good one at that.

He went out of his way to cross out that he was attorney for DD on the hush agreement, and put in that he was attorney for Essential Consultants LLC, which was an attempt to obfuscate the money source/who was bound to the agreement IMO.

This reeks.

And it seems to have been ham handedly done

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ObserverArt  Mar 7, 2018 • 4:05:07pm

Here is the story. Might not be as big as first mentioned.

NY Times - Trump Spoke to Witnesses About Matters They Discussed With Special Counsel

WASHINGTON — The special counsel in the Russia investigation has learned of two conversations in recent months in which President Trump asked key witnesses about matters they discussed with investigators, according to three people familiar with the encounters.

In one episode, the president told an aide that the White House counsel, Donald F. McGahn II, should issue a statement denying a New York Times article in January. The article said Mr. McGahn told investigators that the president once asked him to fire the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III. Mr. McGahn never released a statement and later had to remind the president that he had indeed asked Mr. McGahn to see that Mr. Mueller was dismissed, the people said.

In the other episode, Mr. Trump asked his former chief of staff, Reince Priebus, how his interview had gone with the special counsel’s investigators and whether they had been “nice,” according to two people familiar with the discussion.

The episodes demonstrate that even as the special counsel investigation appears to be intensifying, the president has ignored his lawyers’ advice to avoid doing anything publicly or privately that could create the appearance of interfering with it.

The White House did not respond to several requests for comment. Mr. Priebus and Mr. McGahn declined to comment through their lawyer, William A. Burck.

Legal experts said Mr. Trump’s contact with the men most likely did not rise to the level of witnesses tampering. But witnesses and lawyers who learned about the conversations viewed them as potentially a problem and shared them with Mr. Mueller.

…more at link…

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JordanRules  Mar 7, 2018 • 4:06:49pm

re: #188 dangerman

And it seems to have been ham handedly done

SOP in Trumpworld

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 7, 2018 • 4:08:28pm

re: #175 Unshaken Defiance

I’m a 3rd generation LA native. Fuck james Woods.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 7, 2018 • 4:11:01pm

re: #191 GlutenFreeJesus

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I wonder how he chose “five years.”

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dangerman  Mar 7, 2018 • 4:13:50pm

re: #190 JordanRules

SOP in Trumpworld

They really are all that dumb
Not even b grade villians

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JordanRules  Mar 7, 2018 • 4:16:59pm
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scottslemmons  Mar 7, 2018 • 4:17:41pm

Can you make a binding contract or agreement when everyone’s using fake names? And when one party doesn’t even sign the agreement? Am I missing something that’d make sense to a real lawyer?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 7, 2018 • 4:18:07pm

re: #185 Jay C

You mean like France, Spain or Italy - countries whose economies are about the same size as smaller than California’s?

Fixeded

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 7, 2018 • 4:18:31pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 7, 2018 • 4:19:03pm

re: #192 Barefoot Grin

I wonder how he chose “five years.”

Last time he had a paying gig?

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KGxvi  Mar 7, 2018 • 4:19:07pm

re: #192 Barefoot Grin

I wonder how he chose “five years.”

Good question. Brown was elected governor in 2010, LA hasn’t had a Republican mayor since Riordan’s term ended in July 2001. So, he’s just talking out his ass.

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fern01  Mar 7, 2018 • 4:20:20pm

re: #6 JordanRules

Trump has now absolved Bush from all his actions - and it looks like Nixon may be heading for redemption based on the actions of #45

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 7, 2018 • 4:20:32pm
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dangerman  Mar 7, 2018 • 4:21:12pm

2 injured in Huffman High School shooting; 17-year-old Birmingham girl dead

what’s worse than “epidemic”?

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KGxvi  Mar 7, 2018 • 4:22:24pm

Wow, just looked at polling for the governor’s race here in California. We have a blanket primary, it’s entirely possible the top GOP candidate doesn’t make it into third place.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 7, 2018 • 4:24:07pm

re: #203 KGxvi

Wow, just looked at polling for the governor’s race here in California. We have a blanket primary, it’s entirely possible the top GOP candidate doesn’t make it into third place.

Happened in the Senate race.

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JordanRules  Mar 7, 2018 • 4:25:31pm

re: #197 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

The replies to Bari are hilarious!

She is so bad at her job.

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KGxvi  Mar 7, 2018 • 4:25:40pm

re: #204 Blind Frog Belly White

Happened in the Senate race.

Senate race the Republicans came in third and fourth. This one is showing the top Republican in a dead heat for third, meaning their best showing might be fourth place.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 7, 2018 • 4:26:37pm

re: #117 Ace-o-aces

That picture of Dana Loesch is bogus, in fact she called the FBI and claimed it was a “death threat”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 7, 2018 • 4:27:33pm

re: #206 KGxvi

Senate race the Republicans came in third and fourth. This one is showing the top Republican in a dead heat for third, meaning their best showing might be fourth place.

Misread your point.

I’m ambivalent about the whole blanket primary thing, honestly, but what it really shows is how the CAGOP has marginalized itself.

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fern01  Mar 7, 2018 • 4:29:53pm

re: #39 William Lewis

Every - EVERY - president was a better person than Trump.

He has NOTHING to recommend him as a person. His only skill appears to be ruining the lives of other people - who have the misfortune to come into contact with him.

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MsJ  Mar 7, 2018 • 4:31:08pm

re: #184 Skip Intro

I’m going to wait for Hannity to explain it all to me.

Does Glenn Beck still have his blackboard? I always like visuals with my crazy.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 7, 2018 • 4:31:10pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 7, 2018 • 4:31:13pm

re: #194 JordanRules

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Hey kids, can you say “witness tampering”?

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KGxvi  Mar 7, 2018 • 4:31:39pm

re: #208 Blind Frog Belly White

Misread your point.

I’m ambivalent about the whole blanket primary thing, honestly, but what it really shows is how the CAGOP has marginalized itself.

The CAGOP is an absolute mess. There are a few (current and former) Republican mayors, but the state party can’t get them to run for anything statewide. And there’s only about half a percent separating them from falling into third place in voter registration behind Decline To State.

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whitebeach  Mar 7, 2018 • 4:33:34pm

re: #202 dangerman

2 injured in Huffman High School shooting; 17-year-old Birmingham girl dead

what’s worse than “epidemic”?

A “pandemic” is worse than an epidemic, because an epidemic breaks out and then eventually ends. A pandemic just goes on and on, all over the place, just like gun craziness year after year, decade after decade, all over the US.

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dangerman  Mar 7, 2018 • 4:35:41pm

re: #214 whitebeach

A “pandemic” is worse than an epidemic, because an epidemic breaks out and then eventually ends. A pandemic just goes on and on, all over the place, just like gun craziness year after year, decade after decade, all over the US.

Right

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fern01  Mar 7, 2018 • 4:36:20pm

re: #50 KGxvi

I really do wonder how different history would have viewed Nixon had he won in 1960. I don’t think he becomes the paranoid mess that he was by the late 60s, and maybe JFK runs again, and the entire course of world history is different.

Rather like saying what if Hillary had won in 2008 - we’d now be enjoying BHO as #54
History unfortunately, doesn’t work like sliding doors.

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makeitstop  Mar 7, 2018 • 4:37:48pm

re: #207 The Vicious Babushka

That picture of Dana Loesch is bogus, in fact she called the FBI and claimed it was a “death threat”

Snowflake. She’s got a gun, what’s she scared of?

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whitebeach  Mar 7, 2018 • 4:38:08pm

re: #216 fern01

Rather like saying what if Hillary had won in 2008 - we’d now be enjoying BHO as #54
History unfortunately, doesn’t work like sliding doors.

Right now I’m wishing it worked more like a trapdoor.

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dangerman  Mar 7, 2018 • 4:39:12pm

re: #202 dangerman

2 injured in Huffman High School shooting; 17-year-old Birmingham girl dead

what’s worse than “epidemic”?

Update 5:48 p.m. Unconfirmed info from sources say 10th grade boy may have been showing off gun to girls and it discharged

And again I ask that selfsame question:

Who the fuck’s gun was it and how did this kid get it?

And what is this obsession with taking guns to schools?

Ok 3 questions

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Skip Intro  Mar 7, 2018 • 4:39:36pm

re: #217 makeitstop

Snowflake. She’s got a gun, what’s she scared of?

She has lots of guns. Lots of knives too.

And so does her husband.

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KGxvi  Mar 7, 2018 • 4:41:41pm

re: #216 fern01

Rather like saying what if Hillary had won in 2008 - we’d now be enjoying BHO as #54
History unfortunately, doesn’t work like sliding doors.

It’s just a thought experiment I have sometimes.

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makeitstop  Mar 7, 2018 • 4:47:26pm

re: #220 Skip Intro

She has lots of guns. Lots of knives too.

And so does her husband.

She probably sees it as a useful distraction from those Parkland kids making her look like a fool.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 7, 2018 • 4:50:13pm

lolololololololol…….

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HappyWarrior  Mar 7, 2018 • 4:51:03pm

re: #221 KGxvi

It’s just a thought experiment I have sometimes.

It’s an interesting what if because Nixon was definitely embittered by that 1960 defeat.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 7, 2018 • 4:51:22pm
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Skip Intro  Mar 7, 2018 • 4:51:34pm

re: #222 makeitstop

One of the NRA’s big scary points is that you can’t trust the government to protect you. That’s why you need lots of guns and thousands of rounds of ammunition.

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ObserverArt  Mar 7, 2018 • 4:53:02pm

re: #226 Skip Intro

One of the NRA’s big scary points is that you can’t trust the government to protect you. That’s why you need lots of guns and thousands of rounds of ammunition.

But I do want the government to protect me from the scary NRA. And I can’t trust them to do it.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 7, 2018 • 4:55:24pm

re: #220 Skip Intro

She has lots of guns. Lots of knives too.

And so does her husband.

And still only 2 hands, rendering her collection useless aside from what she can hold at any given time.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 7, 2018 • 4:56:47pm

re: #226 Skip Intro

One of the NRA’s big scary points is that you can’t trust the government to protect you. That’s why you need lots of guns and thousands of rounds of ammunition.

Heh. To be fair. I go through 1,000 rounds in a 2 hour range trip. I always make sure I have at least a 200 round permanent stash at home.

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JordanRules  Mar 7, 2018 • 5:00:11pm
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JordanRules  Mar 7, 2018 • 5:01:35pm

re: #230 JordanRules

LOL

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 7, 2018 • 5:02:40pm

re: #231 JordanRules

LOL

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Isn’t back channel leakage one of the more unsavory side effects of Olestra?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 7, 2018 • 5:03:29pm

FUCK IT!! WE’LL DO IT LIVE!!

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ObserverArt  Mar 7, 2018 • 5:04:12pm

White House 2018 - The Gang that couldn’t President Straight.

Often heard by the recently departed: “This is not how it works. This is not how any of this works!”

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MsJ  Mar 7, 2018 • 5:04:24pm

re: #230 JordanRules

Erik Prince rotting away in prison. Be still my heart.

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fern01  Mar 7, 2018 • 5:04:34pm

re: #82 Belafon

The only way for them to get out is to lose at the ballot box repeatedly until they purge the worst elements from the group.

From the primaries yesterday - seems like Texas is still voting GOP - wonder what they have to do to people to change that around?

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ObserverArt  Mar 7, 2018 • 5:05:11pm

re: #232 Blind Frog Belly White

Isn’t back channel leakage one of the more unsavory side effects of Olestra?

…I’m looking at you!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 7, 2018 • 5:06:18pm

re: #237 ObserverArt

…I’m looking at you!

Oh, yeah? How many fingers am I holding up?

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MsJ  Mar 7, 2018 • 5:06:40pm

re: #236 fern01

From the primaries yesterday - seems like Texas is still voting GOP - wonder what they have to do to people to change that around?

Perhaps more will come out for the election than the primary.

Perhaps Ted Cruz will open his yap and fuck himself.

Perhaps Beto will make headway in the interim.

Never give up! Never surrender!

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ObserverArt  Mar 7, 2018 • 5:06:53pm

re: #238 Blind Frog Belly White

Oh, yeah? How many fingers am I holding up?

None.

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JordanRules  Mar 7, 2018 • 5:07:17pm

re: #235 MsJ

I’m a little aflutter myself right now.
Whew! The Mueller news is fast and furious these days. Keep going!!!!

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Mar 7, 2018 • 5:07:20pm

Huge pizza debate finally settled by panic shoppers clearing supermarket shelves in awful weather conditions

Supermarket shelves up and down the country are empty as a result of panic buying and a lack of deliveries following a week of horrendous weather.

There have been reports of people queuing for hours to get their hands on the essentials and police have even been called to stores to deal with arguments.

But despite their desperation, there was one product that some people still wouldn’t touch - ham and pineapple pizzas.

I’m glad that’s finally settled!
/

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MsJ  Mar 7, 2018 • 5:09:39pm

re: #242 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Huge pizza debate finally settled by panic shoppers clearing supermarket shelves in awful weather conditions

I’m glad that’s finally settled!
/

Proof. Positive!

Win!

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 7, 2018 • 5:09:59pm

re: #242 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

In Philly the usual purchases for a big storm are: bread, milk and eggs. For some reason French toast is a big thing.

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JordanRules  Mar 7, 2018 • 5:11:02pm

LMAO

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lawhawk  Mar 7, 2018 • 5:11:51pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 7, 2018 • 5:12:28pm

re: #243 MsJ

Proof. Positive!

Win!

And yet, I ordered one to be delivered just last night.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Mar 7, 2018 • 5:13:01pm

re: #242 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Huge pizza debate finally settled by panic shoppers clearing supermarket shelves in awful weather conditions

I’m glad that’s finally settled!
/

Yep but the story a few days from now about how ham and pineapple pizzas being the most looted item are going to be great.

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gwangung  Mar 7, 2018 • 5:13:07pm

re: #245 JordanRules

LMAO

Since she spoke to three student and didn’t answer their questions (and cut her press conference short), I’d say she’ll do as little as she listened…little to none.

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MsJ  Mar 7, 2018 • 5:13:19pm

re: #247 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

And yet, I ordered one to be delivered just last night.

🤢🤮

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 7, 2018 • 5:13:26pm

re: #242 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Huge pizza debate finally settled by panic shoppers clearing supermarket shelves in awful weather conditions

I’m glad that’s finally settled!
/

Real connoisseurs of pizza (ham and pineapple pizza lovers) are obviously less inclined to panic during simple winter weather events

//

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scottslemmons  Mar 7, 2018 • 5:14:05pm

re: #236 fern01

From the primaries yesterday - seems like Texas is still voting GOP - wonder what they have to do to people to change that around?

I’m a Texan, and I’ve stopped expecting any improvement. They say we’re turning purple, but we never see any evidence of it — voters just keep voting for the craziest Republicans they can get. The only thing that’d turn things around is if Hispanics/Latinos start voting, but so far, there doesn’t seem to be anything anyone can do to make that happen. :(

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MsJ  Mar 7, 2018 • 5:14:23pm

re: #250 MsJ

🤢🤮

I love those guys ^^^.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Mar 7, 2018 • 5:15:05pm

re: #251 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Real connoisseurs of pizza (ham and pineapple pizza lovers) are obviously less inclined to panic during simple winter weather events

//

And who already hasn’t hoarded a few dozen ham and pineapple pizzas…..just in case….

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 7, 2018 • 5:15:31pm
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MsJ  Mar 7, 2018 • 5:15:40pm

re: #254 bill d. (b.d.)

And who already hasn’t hoarded a few dozen ham and pineapple pizzas…..just in case….

{{{{ Raising hand }}}}

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bill d. (b.d.)  Mar 7, 2018 • 5:16:38pm

re: #256 MsJ

{{{{ Raising hand }}}}

[joe wilson] YOU LIE!! [/joe wilson]

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fern01  Mar 7, 2018 • 5:16:57pm

re: #221 KGxvi

It’s just a thought experiment I have sometimes.

I have them too - anything to pretend the moron really wasn’t elected president

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MsJ  Mar 7, 2018 • 5:19:19pm

re: #257 bill d. (b.d.)

[joe wilson] YOU LIE!! [/joe wilson]

I can completely, 100%, assure you that there is not a single pineapple pizza in this house, nor will there ever be.

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Sea Mexican!  Mar 7, 2018 • 5:19:52pm

re: #254 bill d. (b.d.)

And who already hasn’t hoarded a few dozen ham and pineapple pizzas…..just in case….

I would if I could get my hands on one.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Mar 7, 2018 • 5:20:28pm

re: #256 MsJ

{{{{ Raising hand }}}}

Make some room by throwing out some of those Jim Bakker survival buckets!!

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ObserverArt  Mar 7, 2018 • 5:20:54pm

re: #251 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Real connoisseurs of pizza (ham and pineapple pizza lovers) are obviously less inclined to panic during simple winter weather events

//

Sure, just like the Hawaiians.

Wait, what?

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MsJ  Mar 7, 2018 • 5:22:05pm

re: #261 bill d. (b.d.)

Make some room by throwing out some of those Jim Bakker survival buckets!!

🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 7, 2018 • 5:22:20pm

re: #168 ObserverArt

Does an NDA have to also be notarized at the signing? I wonder if there was a seal on it, or maybe someone from Cohen office fudging things.

No, contracts normally don’t have to be notarized.

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Kafitrar  Mar 7, 2018 • 5:23:19pm

re: #261 bill d. (b.d.)

Make some room by throwing out some of those Jim Bakker survival buckets!!

I thought that was one of the main constituents.

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fern01  Mar 7, 2018 • 5:23:24pm

re: #144 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

OK, interested in eventually seeing the Paul Harvey on this.
Wild ass guess, someone negligently discharged a pistol, and a single bullet struck two people

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Always accidental when the good guy with a gun shoots someone

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Sea Mexican!  Mar 7, 2018 • 5:23:29pm

re: #230 JordanRules

Something I just realized … how many back channels do Russia and Trump need? Unless it’s the same back channel, which then makes them highly incompetent.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Mar 7, 2018 • 5:23:35pm

re: #259 MsJ

I can completely, 100%, assure you that there is not a single pineapple pizza in this house, nor will there ever be.

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whitebeach  Mar 7, 2018 • 5:24:22pm

re: #251 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Real connoisseurs of pizza (ham and pineapple pizza lovers) are obviously less inclined to panic during simple winter weather events

//

If I had to face a ham and pineapple pizza, I wouldn’t be inclined to panic if the Yellowstone caldera blew. It would spare me the suffering.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Mar 7, 2018 • 5:24:29pm

re: #267 Sea Mexican!

Something I just realized … how many back channels do Russia and Trump need? Unless it’s the same back channel, which then makes them highly incompetent.

Every back channel confirms that another back channel isn’t screwing them around.

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MsJ  Mar 7, 2018 • 5:24:38pm

re: #268 bill d. (b.d.)

Oh, I love you. I really do.

On cake, where you belong!

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 7, 2018 • 5:26:57pm

re: #175 Unshaken Defiance

I’m a 3rd generation LA native. Fuck james Woods.

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The Democrats are trying to pass legislation to get more affordable housing built in California. Zoning restrictions have made it virtually impossible to build affordable housing.

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whitebeach  Mar 7, 2018 • 5:27:23pm

re: #267 Sea Mexican!

Something I just realized … how many back channels do Russia and Trump need? Unless it’s the same back channel, which then makes them highly incompetent.

Swamp has many channels, tovarisch.

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ObserverArt  Mar 7, 2018 • 5:28:19pm

re: #271 MsJ

Oh, I love you. I really do.

On cake, where you belong!

Upside down, or missionary?

(and I will see myself out with that…gonna practice drums for a track…don’t hate me too much)

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Sea Mexican!  Mar 7, 2018 • 5:28:41pm

re: #219 dangerman

And again I ask that selfsame question:

Who the fuck’s gun was it and how did this kid get it?

And what is this obsession with taking guns to schools?

Ok 3 questions

If the initial report is correct, the boy was using it as a penis enlargement.

AKA, the intended purpose according to the NRA.

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lawhawk  Mar 7, 2018 • 5:30:57pm
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MsJ  Mar 7, 2018 • 5:30:59pm

re: #274 ObserverArt

Upside down, or missionary?

(and I will see myself out with that…gonna practice drums for a track…don’t hate me too much)

I could never hate you!

I love pineapple so much I’m good with it in any position. As long as it’s not atop a pizza.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 7, 2018 • 5:32:07pm

re: #276 lawhawk

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Good luck with that. I understand that the only language Fuckface von Clownstick comprehends is money, but…

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 7, 2018 • 5:36:21pm

re: #255 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Hope that’s a preview of next Tuesday in Pennsylvania.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 7, 2018 • 5:37:02pm

re: #236 fern01

From the primaries yesterday - seems like Texas is still voting GOP - wonder what they have to do to people to change that around?

Forget the Alamo.

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 7, 2018 • 5:38:46pm

I’m gonna miss you guys. I’m off to fight the Trade War! I won’t be gone long though. I’ve been told it’s going to be good and easy to win!

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bill d. (b.d.)  Mar 7, 2018 • 5:38:48pm

re: #276 lawhawk

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So Koch tried as hard as he could behind the scenes to get Trump to get off of the tariffs, it didn’t work so now he goes public.

Just like Cohn, we’re screwed.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Mar 7, 2018 • 5:39:59pm

re: #280 Decatur Deb

Forget the Alamo.

I hope so, the Texians lost at the Alamo….got slaughtered with no quarter given.

Not a great rallying cry….

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fern01  Mar 7, 2018 • 5:42:38pm

re: #223 Backwoods_Sleuth

So Hillary’s email server was not hacked so bad bad bad
Hillary’s campaign manager’s email was hacked - well lets tell the world all about what he said and when he said it

trump people’s emails are hacked - well not their fault - bad people stole their email.

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Bubblehead II  Mar 7, 2018 • 5:44:29pm

re: #146 Blind Frog Belly White

Wait, wait, wait - the Left lives in gated communities? That’s funny, because the Right also says the Left are all lazy moochers who live on the dole.

How the hell do you live on the dole in a gated community?

You join the military. They pay for your family housing & medical (to a certain degree). In return, you just have to promise to follow orders and die if called upon. If you don’t die, well we have a program that may or may not help you. It’s called the V.A.

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makeitstop  Mar 7, 2018 • 5:44:59pm

Hey, it could work. I forgot that Flynt put up a bounty.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 7, 2018 • 5:45:21pm

Not very subtle, is he.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 7, 2018 • 5:46:22pm

re: #287 goddamnedfrank

Not very subtle, is he.

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Nope.

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 7, 2018 • 5:47:50pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 7, 2018 • 5:50:57pm

re: #289 Ace Rothstein

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Coward.

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 7, 2018 • 5:51:37pm

Not a single ruble, of course.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Mar 7, 2018 • 5:52:07pm

re: #289 Ace Rothstein

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The GOP are scared to death of Trump. Cowards, the lot of them.

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CarolJ  Mar 7, 2018 • 5:53:27pm

re: #226 Skip Intro

History seems to suggest that when it comes to that point, it becomes a matter of which warlord you have to fight. Humans abhor anarchy, and will organize to prevent it. Individual arsenals are useless in any case. Unorganized individuals can’t fight off anyone who is equally armed and organized.

Usually the idea is that if society breaks down, hordes of black (usually) people will swarm out of the cities and attack any white homestead looking for supplies. Why that, rather than forage or enter empty warehouses never occurs to them.

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lawhawk  Mar 7, 2018 • 5:54:24pm

re: #292 bill d. (b.d.)

The GOP are scared to death of Trump. Cowards, the lot of them.

Incorrect.

They’re not afraid of Trump.

They’re afraid of their base/core voters. Trump isn’t the problem. He’s a symptom of the moral/ethical rot of the GOP voter base.

That’s why they aren’t moving against Trump. Because they are worried that the base would revolt against the sane minority among the GOPers in office.

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JordanRules  Mar 7, 2018 • 5:57:56pm

re: #294 lawhawk

Don’t they already hate them? So much so that many of them are just quitting.

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dangerman  Mar 7, 2018 • 5:58:39pm

re: #236 fern01

From the primaries yesterday - seems like Texas is still voting GOP - wonder what they have to do to people to change that around?

Register way more folks
Get them to the polls

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fern01  Mar 7, 2018 • 5:58:54pm

re: #289 Ace Rothstein

“This is no Country for creepy old men”

Republican speaks truth then withdraws remark

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HappyWarrior  Mar 7, 2018 • 5:59:09pm

re: #294 lawhawk

Incorrect.

They’re not afraid of Trump.

They’re afraid of their base/core voters. Trump isn’t the problem. He’s a symptom of the moral/ethical rot of the GOP voter base.

That’s why they aren’t moving against Trump. Because they are worried that the base would revolt against the sane minority among the GOPers in office.

That’s true but that sort of goes with Trump. Trump is much popular with the GOP base then tehy are. But I agree. Trump is the symptom of the GOP base’s rot. They are as HRC accurately described deplorable.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 7, 2018 • 5:59:37pm

re: #297 fern01

Republican speaks truth then withdraws remark

The story of every Republican in the Trump era for the most part.

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makeitstop  Mar 7, 2018 • 6:00:52pm

re: #292 bill d. (b.d.)

The GOP are scared to death of Trump. Cowards, the lot of them.

Trump must have dirt on everyone.

It really is embarrassing to watch grown men behave this way, though.

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whitebeach  Mar 7, 2018 • 6:01:12pm

re: #291 Ace Rothstein

Not a single ruble, of course.

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I’m still waiting, and waiting, to see a photo of that $1 million check from his personal funds he promised to Houston after the hurricane last year.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 7, 2018 • 6:02:32pm

re: #300 makeitstop

Trump must have dirt on everyone.

It really is embarrassing to watch grown men behave this way, though.

I’m wondering if he and his people have dirt via the Russians on them or just damaging stuff in general. Or it could be the simplest explanation. They’re cowards.

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 7, 2018 • 6:04:58pm

re: #301 whitebeach

You never will see it. The art of the con is that the marks never, ever find out they’re being conned.

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gocart mozart  Mar 7, 2018 • 6:07:01pm
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gocart mozart  Mar 7, 2018 • 6:09:12pm
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whitebeach  Mar 7, 2018 • 6:09:24pm

re: #287 goddamnedfrank

Not very subtle, is he.

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Pretty sneaky how those Jews took over the FBI by all going to Fordham.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 7, 2018 • 6:10:03pm

re: #306 whitebeach

Pretty sneaky how those Jews took over the FBI by all going to Fordham.

Comey’s a mensch. //

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plansbandc  Mar 7, 2018 • 6:11:09pm

Terribly off topic, but I have a friend who is a phone strumpet. One of her clients, just as he finished said, “Thar she be”.

Still laughing.

I’ll see myself out…

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whitebeach  Mar 7, 2018 • 6:13:49pm

re: #308 plansbandc

Terribly off topic, but I have a friend who is a phone strumpet. One of her clients, just as he finished said, “Thar she be”.

Still laughing.

I’ll see myself out…

Coulda been worse. Coulda been “Thar she blows.”

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makeitstop  Mar 7, 2018 • 6:15:43pm

re: #302 HappyWarrior

I’m wondering if he and his people have dirt via the Russians on them or just damaging stuff in general. Or it could be the simplest explanation. They’re cowards.

For a long time I’ve believed that Trump got the results of the Russian hack of the RNC.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 7, 2018 • 6:16:46pm

re: #310 makeitstop

For a long time I’ve believed that Trump got the results of the Russian hack of the RNC.

That’s an interesting thought.

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ObserverArt  Mar 7, 2018 • 6:16:54pm

re: #300 makeitstop

Trump must have dirt on everyone.

It really is embarrassing to watch grown men behave this way, though.

The Russians must have been well prepared to keep the Donald going as long as possible. And I think they run info through him as their paid puppet.

They most likely were thinking with the emergence of far right thinking, Nationalist thinking in America, etc. they could have a nice long run.

Tie down congress with some hacking of their emails, RNC server and probably a lot more, while doing the social media thing and paying who knows who besides the NRA (Fox/Hannity???) to talk up their guy.

It worked, but for how long now? Trump is pissing off so many in one direction, and Mueller coming from another. Meanwhile the Russians can make him sweat to get what they want, now probably on a quicker schedule knowing they might need to cut him off soon.

He is gonna blow up here big lee’ and probably make the mistake that will be new but fatal to his “political career.” The Mueller investigation might not even be the thing at this rate.

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LadyBehir  Mar 7, 2018 • 6:22:23pm

re: #291 Ace Rothstein

square root of -1 because it is imaginary.

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gocart mozart  Mar 7, 2018 • 6:23:30pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 7, 2018 • 6:25:19pm

re: #310 makeitstop

For a long time I’ve believed that Trump got the results of the Russian hack of the RNC.

I think this overlooks the extent to which a hefty chunk of the GOP agree with him completely and find his consequence-free, constant bullshitting and corruption to be liberating.

Nothing matters. That’s the lesson of Trump.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 7, 2018 • 6:25:35pm

re: #312 ObserverArt

Crossing the Kochs in re: tariffs could be one potentially fatal error. Trump has also lost many of the more conservative finance pundits, who see his bumbling about tariffs as the precursor to inflation and a screwed economy down the road. The danger, they say, is a failed economy would allow the Democrats to regain control of COngress and the White House.

Oh noez!!

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dangerman  Mar 7, 2018 • 6:27:40pm

re: #301 whitebeach

I’m still waiting, and waiting, to see a photo of that $1 million check from his personal funds he promised to Houston after the hurricane last year.

And no one remembers or calls him on it daily

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 7, 2018 • 6:34:30pm

re: #268 bill d. (b.d.)

The only pineapple I truly love!

Annette - Pineapple Princess

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Belafon  Mar 7, 2018 • 7:34:09pm

re: #236 fern01

From the primaries yesterday - seems like Texas is still voting GOP - wonder what they have to do to people to change that around?

The switch tends to lad trends a little bit here in Texas. Democrats were in power a little longer than they should have been, they were far more liberal than the state itself. Some of that is happening now. Texas isn’t going to flip blue in one election. But having more Democrats actually run will help change that.

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SpikeDad  Mar 8, 2018 • 9:17:47am

re: #201 Barefoot Grin

My local Sinclair outlet is turning into a cesspool. Any number of hateful, moronic right wing “news” shows are appearing.


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